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| TheMuso | Hrm, got some weird FTBF sstuff happening here. | 00:56 |
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| TheMuso | this is on the buildds BTW. | 00:58 |
| jelmer | mathiaz, hi | 00:59 |
| rickspencer3 | ArneGoetje: hi | 00:59 |
| jelmer | mathiaz, Thanks for the sync requests | 00:59 |
| mathiaz | jelmer: sure :) | 00:59 |
| mathiaz | jelmer: I've successfully built samba4 and talloc in a ppa | 01:00 |
| ArneGoetje | rickspencer3: morning | 01:00 |
| mathiaz | jelmer: thus the sync request | 01:00 |
| mathiaz | jelmer: that should fix seb128 build failure for openchange (IIRC) | 01:00 |
| jelmer | mathiaz, Ah, cool | 01:02 |
| TheMuso | Yay, udev package setup is borking for some reason. | 01:12 |
| TheMuso | which in turn breaks other pieces needed by the packages I have recently uploaded. | 01:13 |
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| twb | A package (dovecot-imapd) is listed as being maintained by MOTU. How do I find out who the "real" stakeholders are? | 01:55 |
| twb | I want to pay them to backport dovecot 1.2 to Hardy. | 01:55 |
| twb | Oops, s/MOTU/Core devs/ | 01:56 |
| twb | Hmm, I guess I should look at Debian.changelog | 01:56 |
| billybigrigger | is anyone here around to answer some questions about v4l and my webcam? | 02:09 |
| billybigrigger | all through karmic development my webcam hasn't worked, is this because of v4l apps trying to use v4l2 devices? | 02:10 |
| Tronic | How do you file a bug for fetching new version from Debian to Karmic? | 03:03 |
| Tronic | We fixed some rather serious bugs and the new version is now in Debian Unstable. | 03:04 |
| TheMuso | Tronic: What is the package? | 03:04 |
| Tronic | performous | 03:05 |
| Tronic | (performous-dbg and performous-tools also) | 03:05 |
| Tronic | Ummh, wait a sec, I think it is still in NEW. | 03:06 |
| Tronic | 0.3.2 is the fixed version. | 03:06 |
| TheMuso | You need to file a bug against the performous source package in launchpad, requesting a sync from unstable. Then you have to subscribe the ubuntu-universe-sponsors team to the bug so they can look at it. Please mention why the package should be updated in the bug. | 03:06 |
| StevenK | But it isn't in unstable yet, if it's in NEW | 03:07 |
| TheMuso | Tronic: Well once its out of the new queue, file the bug. | 03:07 |
| StevenK | And we can't pull from NEW. | 03:07 |
| Tronic | No, seems to be accepted to unstable, but I guess packages.debian.org hasn't updated its index yet. | 03:07 |
| Tronic | TheMuso: Ok. Do I need any tags or something for it? | 03:09 |
| TheMuso | No. | 03:09 |
| Tronic | Will do that, thanks :) | 03:12 |
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| hile | helvetti ne olivat nopeita, 'luovutusta yritetty, vastaanottajaa ei tavoitettu' mä tilasin sen hitto torstaina, yleensä toimitusaika thomannilla 8-10 työpäivää! | 07:10 |
| hile | oops wrong channel :) | 07:16 |
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| sanmarcos | in 9.04, does anybody else notice images (icons) in libnotify popups are blurry? | 07:31 |
| phurl | anyone can help me with reprepro Error: Distribution doooh contains an architecture called 'all'. any ideaS? | 07:36 |
| joaopinto | phurl, you dont need "all" listed on the Architectures field of a distribution | 07:37 |
| phurl | joaopinto, thanks. | 07:37 |
| joaopinto | I am using: Architectures: i386 amd64 source | 07:37 |
| phurl | so when i remove it. i got a different error. lets see | 07:38 |
| phurl | it is for java stuff | 07:38 |
| phurl | josm_0.0.svn1529-1_all.deb | 07:38 |
| joaopinto | no problem, "all" packages will be accepted anyway | 07:38 |
| phurl | ahh | 07:38 |
| sanmarcos | why does ubuntu break something new every release | 07:40 |
| sanmarcos | pulseaudio, now libnotify | 07:40 |
| phurl | working now joaopinto thanks! | 07:41 |
| joaopinto | :) | 07:42 |
| sanmarcos | notify-osd is such shit | 07:45 |
| sanmarcos | you hove rthe notification and it hides, what the hell where they thinking | 07:45 |
| sanmarcos | I give you a 512x512 icon and it still looks blurry | 07:45 |
| joaopinto | sanmarcos, what your language ! | 07:50 |
| TheMuso | Seems like anything that pulls in udev to be built FTBFSes on all except for powerpc and armel. | 07:53 |
| phurl | so how can i test my new repo on fedora? | 08:01 |
| phurl | it only wants to use apt for rpms but not for debs :( | 08:02 |
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| phurl | how can i get apt on fedora to download debs? | 08:08 |
| AnAnt | Hello, could someone sponsor those: LP 401816 & LP 404561 | 08:14 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 401816 in guile-1.8 "Conflicting types for 'jmp_buf' " [Unknown,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/401816 | 08:14 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 404561 in debhelper "Candidate revision debhelper_7.3.8ubuntu1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/404561 | 08:14 |
| slytherin | TheMuso: cjwatson_: infinity: A million thanks to whoever fixed powerpc buildd problems. :-) | 09:21 |
| directhex | yay powerpc | 09:22 |
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| ares4you | Hi! I am ( was ) from Ubuntu developing team. I had one big problem with network manager ( i coldn`t acces internet ) I want to help developing ubuntu but I don`t want to test that packages with network | 09:50 |
| ares4you | who can help me? | 09:51 |
| slytherin | ares4you: What development team are you member of? | 09:51 |
| ares4you | testing | 09:51 |
| slytherin | oh | 09:52 |
| ares4you | can someone help me? | 09:55 |
| ares4you | I think I can`t test just some pacages | 10:01 |
| ares4you | am I right? | 10:02 |
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| ares4you | what is doing computer janitor in developing team ( testing )? Can be used to reconfigure my system? | 10:17 |
| maxb | ares4you: You might do better finding a channel specific to your native language. I'm sorry but your English is a bit too muddled for you to be understood clearly. | 10:27 |
| ares4you | maxb: I am sorry! I am learning.... | 10:28 |
| ares4you | maxb: I do my best and I try to explain if you do not understand me | 10:30 |
| ares4you | from where can I download an older version of network manager? | 10:47 |
| TheMuso | slytherin: and so far as things go now, powerpc is more healthy than supported architectures. :) | 10:48 |
| joaopinto | ares4you, if you need general support, please ask on #ubuntu | 10:49 |
| ares4you | thanks | 10:49 |
| slytherin | TheMuso: how so? | 11:00 |
| TheMuso | slytherin: Due to a weird bug that is being triggered whenever a package installs udev as a dependency, a lot of packages on everything except for armel and powerpc are failing to build. | 11:03 |
| TheMuso | Its a buildd host issue I think. Armel and powerpc are not running hardy, so don't seem to be affected. | 11:03 |
| slytherin | I saw one such error. But I didn't know the reason | 11:03 |
| TheMuso | slytherin: I worked it out, thinking I may have been able to upload a fix somehow, but it seems not. | 11:06 |
| simon-o | Hi, does anyone now if pitti is on vacation? | 11:36 |
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| seb128 | simon-o, he is | 11:39 |
| simon-o | seb128: thanks. Is anyone from ~ubuntu-mir around? | 11:40 |
| seb128 | you're welcome | 11:41 |
| seb128 | dunno, use launchpad and open a bug, etC? | 11:41 |
| * ogra guesses its a hard week to catch people on IRC, half the world is at debconf and the other half on vacation :) mail and bugs might be the best bet | 11:42 | |
| simon-o | I've got a specific question about an existing bug, where I need some advice from someone from ubuntu-mir | 11:42 |
| ogra | ask in the bug then | 11:43 |
| simon-o | ogra: Yes I could, but who should answer that question ;) | 11:43 |
| ogra | oh, its not a MIR bug ? | 11:44 |
| james_w | simon-o: the LP page would tell you the other members | 11:44 |
| simon-o | ogra: no it's bug 403565. And I don't know what to do next. | 11:46 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 403565 in lyx "Sync lyx 1.6.3-4 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)." [Wishlist,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/403565 | 11:46 |
| simon-o | james_w: thanks, I'll see if I can catch someone from the team | 11:47 |
| james_w | why is that ubuntu-mir? | 11:47 |
| james_w | oh | 11:47 |
| james_w | I see why | 11:47 |
| james_w | but I think it's just oddness and shouldn't need them | 11:48 |
| simon-o | james_w: geser from ubuntu-motu told me to ask someone from ubuntu-mir. | 11:49 |
| geser | james_w: who should he ask instead? | 11:49 |
| simon-o | :) | 11:49 |
| james_w | I just happen to be sitting next to cjwatson, who is the perfect person to ask | 11:50 |
| james_w | we're just fixing it now | 11:50 |
| simon-o | james_w: thanks, that's great | 11:50 |
| geser | james_w: why him? | 11:51 |
| james_w | because it's cjwatson :-) | 11:51 |
| james_w | he knows everything | 11:52 |
| james_w | the problem is a cryptic error message | 11:52 |
| james_w | it's a safety catch | 11:52 |
| cjwatson | so the problem here is that lyx, a source package in universe, wants to produce a new binary package called latex-xft-fonts, which is already produced by a source package in main | 11:52 |
| geser | yes | 11:52 |
| cjwatson | latex-xft-fonts is in main for abiword and koffice | 11:52 |
| cjwatson | which means, I think, that lyx needs to be MIRed | 11:52 |
| cjwatson | I don't see any particular way around it | 11:53 |
| cjwatson | the sync can be forced with sync-source.py -F | 11:53 |
| geser | james_w: will remember that for the future (and if he complains I'll refer to you :) | 11:53 |
| cjwatson | or maybe (as james_w says here) if latex-xft-fonts is just a transitional package then its rdepends should be updated? | 11:54 |
| cjwatson | it happens that I've run into this problem before, that's all :) | 11:54 |
| cjwatson | latex-xft-fonts Depends: ttf-lyx | 11:54 |
| geser | cjwatson: that won't help here as latex-xft-fonts depends on ttf-lyx-fonts (build from lyx) | 11:55 |
| cjwatson | so unless I miss my guess we're going to need to MIR lyx anyway | 11:55 |
| cjwatson | perhaps an MIR that said "we only actually need the fonts, and won't be promoting the other binaries" | 11:56 |
| cjwatson | but I'm not in ubuntu-mir :) | 11:56 |
| geser | as I don't know the chances for lyx to pass MIR, I suggested simon-o to get some more input (if there are any other options) | 11:56 |
| cjwatson | I can't think of any other options that are easier | 11:57 |
| cjwatson | splitting the binaries back out doesn't seem like a great idea maintenance-wise | 11:57 |
| geser | if the fonts didn't change, would it be an option to don't build the fonts package by lyx? and leave latex-xft-fonts in main as is? | 11:59 |
| cjwatson | that would work but I think it's a bad idea in the long term, if it's just to try to avoid an MIR | 12:00 |
| geser | but that would have the disadvantage of a package without proper maintainace in main | 12:00 |
| cjwatson | we should just suck up the main promotion IMO | 12:00 |
| * geser hands https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MainInclusionProcess to simon-o | 12:01 | |
| simon-o | geser, cjwatson: thanks for the insights. I'll request the main inclusion. | 12:05 |
| YokoZar | kees: Just saw your name on the copyright of Wine's crypt32.dll ;) | 12:06 |
| seb128 | directhex, hi, do you know if anybody is working on updating mono and gnome-desktop-sharp2 to current version? | 12:52 |
| directhex | seb128, mono is being worked on over the next week(ish) - all the mono stack except the main mono package itself is up to date | 12:52 |
| seb128 | directhex, gnome-desktop-sharp2 is 2.24 and upstream is 2.26? | 12:53 |
| directhex | i know i looked at g-d-s, but i decided to hold fire for some reason. don't remember why | 12:53 |
| seb128 | directhex, ok, that was just a reply to your 'all the mono stack except the main mono package itself is up to date' | 12:54 |
| seb128 | directhex, no issue, I'm just checking was is marked outdated on the desktop team versions.html list | 12:54 |
| directhex | (the mono stack is mono, libgdiplus, gluezilla, mono-tools, xsp, mod-mono, mono-basic and mono-debugger) | 12:55 |
| seb128 | oh ok | 12:55 |
| seb128 | learning every day ;-) | 12:55 |
| directhex | i THINK (don't quote me on this) i held off when i noticed it was outdated, as our ABI validation tools are currently broken, and the guy making their replacement is MIA | 12:55 |
| directhex | gnome-sharp people can occasionally cock that one up, which is what lead to that whole gnome2.24-cil in jaunty | 12:56 |
| seb128 | ok | 12:56 |
| seb128 | I will ignore it for now then ;-) | 12:56 |
| directhex | but if you want it updated, i could take a look | 12:56 |
| seb128 | I'm just trying to clean the outdated list a bit | 12:56 |
| directhex | oh, here's a better idea | 12:56 |
| directhex | let's make slomo do it. slomo, you're gnome team AND mono team! | 12:57 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 12:57 |
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| slomo | directhex: what's the problem (in a single sentence please)? | 12:58 |
| directhex | slomo, uupdate gnome-desktop-sharp2 from 2.24 to 2.26, assuming it doesn't horribly break everything | 12:59 |
| directhex | seb128, i've been repeatedly promised a new f-spot from upstream before FF, by the way | 13:01 |
| seb128 | directhex, excellent! | 13:01 |
| directhex | they're in FF themselves, so.... it might slide past FF, but i think things like this should go in with a minimum of fuss... | 13:02 |
| seb128 | right, desktopish upgrade are usually not an issue | 13:02 |
| directhex | oh, and mono 2.4.2.2 will hit binary NEW, due to re-adding a library we disabled for DFSG reasons, and adding a lib that upstream forgot (!) to put in 2.4.0 | 13:04 |
| directhex | just FYI | 13:04 |
| seb128 | ok | 13:05 |
| directhex | with luck we should also be able to actually deliver on something I promised earlier in the cycle (need to deal with some useless linkages in order to strip a 3 meg lib from the CD) | 13:06 |
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| ion | lc | 13:38 |
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| slytherin | Can any of the core devs please give back gnome-applets on powerpc? | 14:28 |
| seb128 | slytherin, | 14:35 |
| seb128 | done | 14:35 |
| slytherin | thanks | 14:35 |
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| Riddell | ArneGoetje: did you do the language-support-zh-hant and other new pages? why does language-support-zh-hant conflict/replace itself? | 15:18 |
| ArneGoetje | Riddell: ? | 15:24 |
| ArneGoetje | Riddell: like all language-pack/-support packages it conflicts/replaces a lower version of the same package... has always been that case. | 15:25 |
| Riddell | why does it do that? | 15:25 |
| Riddell | ArneGoetje: also how do these packages relate to language-support-zh ? | 15:27 |
| ArneGoetje | Riddell: they replace language-support-zh. language-support-zh becomes a dummy package for transitioning to zh-hans/zh-hant | 15:28 |
| ArneGoetje | Riddell: the language-pack/-support-zh packages got split into zh-hans and zh-hant | 15:29 |
| Riddell | ArneGoetje: ok accepted, but that conflict/replace on itself should go, it's just confusing | 15:30 |
| Riddell | ArneGoetje: and while I'm mentioning it, language-pack-kde-xx should depend on language-pack-xx | 15:31 |
| ArneGoetje | Riddell: oh, damn... bug in the script... :( will fix it | 15:39 |
| gaspa | TheMuso: any news on this morning problem? | 15:45 |
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| Riddell | dpm: any idea what should be done with bug 378075 ? | 16:12 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 378075 in ddtp-ubuntu "Typos in package summaries" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/378075 | 16:12 |
| dpm | Riddell: on a call atm, I'll have a look and try to reply when I'm done | 16:13 |
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| mathiaz | kees: jdstrand: how do you feel about processing a MIR for mysql 5.1? | 16:32 |
| kees | mathiaz: I likely won't have time this week (travelling to Blackhat) | 16:35 |
| mathiaz | kees: travelling -> mysql 5.1 is amazing to be reviewed on a plane :) | 16:39 |
| hyperair | dtchen: regarding pulseaudio, is it supposed to scale the system volume together with the apps volumes? | 16:52 |
| hyperair | dtchen: it's causing some rather annoying issues with mplayer's pulse plugin when there is more than one pulse client | 16:53 |
| hyperair | dtchen: e.g. if you repeatedly scale mplayer's volume up and down, you eventually mute all other clients. | 16:53 |
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| mathiaz | how can I find all the packages in main that build-dep on libmysqlclient-dev or libmysqlclient15-dev? | 17:21 |
| lucas | mathiaz: using the edos tools | 17:21 |
| pochu | or build-rdeps? | 17:22 |
| lucas | ah, depends if you want transitive b-deps or not | 17:22 |
| seb128 | mathiaz, grep-dctrl -F Build-Depends -s Package libmysqlclient-dev /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_karmic_main_source_Sources | 17:37 |
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| mdz | Keybuk: I've created https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TechnicalBoard/TeamReports/09/July with the notes from today's meeting, if you could fill in the previous one | 17:58 |
| Keybuk | mdz: sure, I'll paste from the mail | 18:00 |
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| AnAnt | Hello, can someone sponsor this merge: LP 404561 | 18:31 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 404561 in debhelper "Candidate revision debhelper_7.3.8ubuntu1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/404561 | 18:31 |
| sebner | Riddell: thanks for syncing themonospot that fast! :) | 18:46 |
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| Riddell | sebner: when it's my archive day, things get done! :) | 18:47 |
| * directhex requestsyncs nant | 18:47 | |
| Riddell | too late, my archive day is over | 18:48 |
| directhex | well, poop | 18:48 |
| sebner | directhex: ahaha! | 18:49 |
| sebner | Riddell for 7 days a week archive master \o/ | 18:50 |
| AnAnt | Riddell: when's your archive day ? | 18:50 |
| Riddell | AnAnt: tuesday afternoons | 18:50 |
| AnAnt | hmm | 18:51 |
| AnAnt | isn't that today | 18:51 |
| ogra | it was | 18:51 |
| pitti | howdy | 19:17 |
| AnAnt | Hello | 19:19 |
| AnAnt | so, who's archive day is it ? | 19:19 |
| sebner | pitti: \o/ | 19:19 |
| AnAnt | pitti: would you sponsor this merge: LP 404561 please? | 19:21 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 404561 in debhelper "Candidate revision debhelper_7.3.8ubuntu1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/404561 | 19:21 |
| pitti | AnAnt: please sub u-main-sponsors, will go back to real work tomorrow | 19:21 |
| maxb | It's impossible to purge sysklogd because it wants to deluser syslog, which is now used by rsyslogd - what needs to be done here? | 19:24 |
| maxb | Perhaps karmic needs a dummy sysklogd package that can be upgraded to to nuke that postrm | 19:24 |
| AnAnt | pitti: done | 19:26 |
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| superm1 | mvo, ping. i wanted to talk to you about helping figure out why the mythbuntu tasks are so broke when you get a sec | 20:28 |
| mvo | superm1: hello! yeah, please tell me about the problem | 20:47 |
| mvo | superm1: but its quite possible that I will do the actual investigation tomorrow morning, its getting a bit late here | 20:48 |
| superm1 | mvo, okay so the issue is installing the mythbuntu-desktop meta pulls in half of gnome. installing the task doesn't pull in enough of the mythbuntu-desktop stuff. installing the task and meta at the same time pulls in about the right balance | 20:56 |
| superm1 | if you look at the livecd-rootfs branch you can see the current workaround that we have in our live disks that gets the right set of packages installed, but is still a hack | 20:57 |
| mvo | superm1: ok, I check it out (tomorrow :) | 21:02 |
| superm1 | mvo, okay great thanks :) | 21:02 |
| infinity | I'll give all the spare change in my pocket to the first person who tells me why perl is FTBFS on sparc. | 21:03 |
| infinity | (Bonus points if you also fix dbus on ia64) | 21:04 |
| infinity | That it all. :P | 21:04 |
| Sarvatt | Does anyone know of any existing scripts or packages that handle reverting all packages in a PPA to the distro ones? | 21:36 |
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| arand | May I poke someone about a requested SRU which already has a debdiff? Bug #316502 | 21:40 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 316502 in gnumeric "cannot release a graph in gnumeric after click and drag" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/316502 | 21:40 |
| stefanlsd | seb128: Im looking at Xchat in Karmic, where on the server list I see C_onnect. The xchat code is right, and it should be an accelerator for alt o. Do you know if any other GTK apps under Karmic are having an issue with this? | 21:50 |
| seb128 | stefanlsd, bug #404767 | 21:51 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 404767 in gtk+2.0 "gtk: mnemonic/accelerator shows as underscore instead of underline, and does not register with keyboard" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/404767 | 21:51 |
| seb128 | stefanlsd, testcase would be useful | 21:51 |
| stefanlsd | seb128: thanks. somehow lp search never finds this stuff for me :) will see what info I can add | 21:52 |
| seb128 | stefanlsd, you probably use the wrong keyword, usually sort by newer first that give you a good overview of recent issues | 21:53 |
| maxb | doko: Hi, are you around? | 23:00 |
| maxb | I'm trying to push a s/default-jdk-builddep/default-jdk/ change back to Debian and the maintainer is hesitant because no Debian Policy explains the purpose of these | 23:01 |
| maxb | Can you provide an authoritative Debian citation for the correct usage of default-jdk vs. default-jdk-builddep? | 23:01 |
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