[00:00] <bobofosho> http://apcmag.com/images/howto/dualboot_ubuntu_vista_vista_first/ubuntu_install_01.jpg
[00:00] <bobofosho> funky: no that didnt work
[00:00] <funkywds> bobofosho: so just letting it sit after boot and letting the clock count down didn't work?
[00:00] <funkywds> what happened?
[00:00] <bobofosho> nothing at all
[00:00] <bobofosho> it just stayed at that screen
[00:00] <MrStein> bobofosho: did you "Check CD for defects" ?
[00:00] <bobofosho> it wont let me
[00:00] <funkywds> bobofosho: it's not the disc, it's your hardware
[00:00] <bobofosho> i cant select any of the options
[00:00] <MrStein> bobofosho:  What PC ?
[00:01] <bobofosho> hp
[00:01] <funkywds> bobofosho: the liveCD doesn't like it for some reason
[00:01] <bobofosho> laptop
[00:01] <bobofosho> 6730s
[00:01] <funkywds> bobofosho: mapping may be off for your "enter" key
[00:01] <meshuggah> heya sebsebseb !!!! how are you my friend?
[00:01] <bobofosho> how do i turn it on
[00:01] <bobofosho> ?
[00:01] <funkywds> bobofosho: not "off" i mean icorrectly mapped
[00:02] <bobofosho> ok so how do i remap it
[00:02] <funkywds> bobofosho: i'm interested to know whether you'll have this problem with the linux mint liveCD
[00:02] <LrdHelmet> how do i  add stuff to the dock?
[00:02] <bobofosho> i dont wanna download another os
[00:02] <bobofosho> to much hassle
[00:03] <funkywds> bobofosho: i hear ya.  Linux Mint *IS* ubuntu, but tweaked a bit to be easier to use and install
[00:03] <Dr_Willis> bobofosho:  you have a ps2 or usb keyboard? got one of the other kinds to test out?
[00:03] <funkywds> bobofosho: as for your keyboard, you wouldn't happen to have an external usb KB you could use temporarily, do you?
[00:03] <bobofosho> unfortuanantly no
[00:03] <bobofosho> i dont
[00:03] <funkywds> bobofosho: darn
[00:03] <bobofosho> but if enter always works in windows
[00:04] <bobofosho> why would it be a problem now
[00:04] <funkywds> bobofosho: the key may be mapped to do something else.  it prolly works, just not for what its supposed to
[00:04] <Dr_Willis> bobofosho:  laptops can be quirky (this is a laptop right?)
[00:04] <bobofosho> yep
[00:04] <Dr_Willis> bobofosho:    you could try unetbootin and make a bootable flash drive to install from.
[00:04] <funkywds> bobofosho: you could try pressing other keys to see another key acts like the enter key
[00:05] <bobofosho> already tried
[00:05] <bobofosho> that
[00:05] <bobofosho> none of the keys
[00:05] <bobofosho> worked
[00:05] <stroyan> bobofosho:  http://www.linlap.com/wiki/hp-compaq+6730s looks encouraging.  It does not mention any keyboard trouble.
[00:05] <FloodBot1> bobofosho: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:05] <Dr_Willis> ctrl-h or ctrl-j also works as enter at times.. but it SHOULD count down i thought.. try the escape key also...
[00:05] <funkywds> bobofosho: did you try pressing them with the "Fn" key held down?
[00:05] <Dr_Willis> It could be the machine is just hanging.
[00:05] <bobofosho> true
[00:05] <bobofosho> so many options
[00:06] <bobofosho> its overwhelming
[00:06] <funkywds> Dr_Willis: not if he can change the selections but not select them
[00:06] <Dr_Willis> bobofosho:  with a unetbootin built 'flash installer disk' you could edit the syslinux.cfg files to skip the language selection perhaps.
[00:06] <bobofosho> whoever posted that link thanks
[00:06] <Dr_Willis> bobofosho:  but it sounds more to me like the thing is totally hanging.
[00:06] <bobofosho> why would it hang i wonder
[00:07] <funkywds> Dr_Willis: he says he can change the selections, but not actually select one
[00:07] <funkywds> Dr_Willis: if he gets any response, it's not a hang, but a hw or mapping prob
[00:07] <Dr_Willis> bobofosho:  try the escape key at that language selection . that should 'close' the language  box (and i for one hage NO  IDEA why ubuntu likes to auto-pop that thing up)
[00:08] <Dr_Willis> bobofosho:  on one installer/flash drive i disabled that so it never asked the language. :)
[00:08] <Dr_Willis> funkywds:  thats a good sign then
[00:08] <funkywds> Dr_Willis: yeah
[00:08] <funkywds> Dr_Willis:  tricky
[00:08] <bobofosho> i can get rid of the language menu
[00:08] <bobofosho> fine
[00:09] <Dr_Willis> The default ubuntu sysliniux.cfg setup is whats tricky.. its was a pain to read through and alter,
[00:09] <bobofosho> i can move the selection highligter
[00:09] <bobofosho> too
[00:09] <bobofosho> but i dont know why this is a problem though
[00:09] <funkywds> bobofosho: that means your computer isn't hangign, try turning on/off the numlock
[00:09] <Dr_Willis> bobofosho:  so do the F keys work if you get rid iof the language selection?
[00:10] <funkywds> bobofosho: maybe the numlock is on by default and needs to be disabled, therefore mucking up the KB map
[00:10] <bobofosho> ok how do i turn off numlock
[00:10] <funkywds> bobofosho: there should be a key that says "Num Lock".  you may have to press the Fn key to access it's functionality
[00:12] <funkywds> *its functionality
[00:13] <bobofosho> i think turned it off
[00:13]  * meshuggah kisses sebsebseb 
[00:13] <stroyan> bobofosho:  When dealing with a install problem you should as a rule look for BIOS updates for your hardware.  You may be able to use http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/SoftwareDescription.jsp?lang=en&cc=us&prodTypeId=321957&prodSeriesId=3687778&swItem=ob-73004-1&prodNameId=3687786&swEnvOID=1093&swLang=13&taskId=135&mode=4&idx=3
[00:13] <brandon> hello, i have ubuntu home version but i want to use ubuntu server is there any way i can get server version without having to re install desktop version?
[00:13] <funkywds> stroyan: good idea
[00:14]  * meshuggah cuddles sebsebseb 
[00:15] <brandon> Hello?
[00:15] <meshuggah> brandon, dunno sorry
[00:15] <roger21> brandon, the server and home are just two different set of packages, you may remove/install the package you don't need/need
[00:15] <yoyoned1> brandon: just install the server apps you want
[00:15] <th0r> brandon: install lamp
[00:15] <th0r> !lamp
[00:16] <mazda01> !lamp
[00:16] <mubu> Hey guys is there any way i can use synaptic package manager to downgrade/undo an upgrade of a certain package i did recently? thanks
[00:16] <mazda01> ha, cool. i know how to get the bot to help me out. i didn't know this before
[00:17] <mazda01> mubu, i don't know about synaptic but I know you can use apt-get or aptitude to hold certain versions and not upgrade them
[00:17] <mubu> mazda01,  I already performed an upgrade though... is there any way to rollback
[00:18] <tavelram_> is there a way to clean the apt cache from already installed packages?
[00:18] <mazda01> mubu, here's a guide: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-apt-get.en.html
[00:18] <etherealG> hi, anyone know if I can install wireshark on linux without interrupting current network connections and monitor those existing connections?
[00:18] <MrStein> etherealG: yes, you can
[00:19] <Reefer> Anyone here to help me with Ubuntu issues
[00:19] <Reefer> ?
[00:19] <mazda01> mubu, sure. first you would aptitude remove --purge packagename  and then follow that tutorial. unless you're saying you upgraded the entire distro.
[00:19] <funkywds> Reefer: most of us
[00:19] <MrStein> (consider another nick until you master wireshark) ;-)
[00:19] <etherealG> hehe
[00:19] <brandon> i can. Reffer
[00:19] <stroyan> mazda01:  You can use private message instead of conversing with ubottu in the room.  See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots#Private%20messages
[00:19] <Reefer> If someone is free to help me can you please pm me
[00:19] <yoyoned1> !ask|reefer
[00:19] <etherealG> well, I wasn't sure as switching the adapter into monitor mode I thought might drop connections
[00:19] <brandon> :)
[00:20] <mubu> mazda01, No, i just upgraded a certain program, but dont see how that guide can help me..
[00:20] <MrStein> etherealG:  WLAN ?
[00:20] <mechtech> why does my package for wine-gecko have star on it?
[00:20] <etherealG> I'm really eager to watch what a process is up to, but if I accidentally close it I can't start it again
[00:20] <etherealG> nah MrStein, ethernet
[00:20] <etherealG> an open irc connection is what I want to monitor actually :)
[00:21] <mazda01> mubu, i just told you how. first remove --purge packagename and then follow the guide. read the guide, that'll help first of all.
[00:21] <MrStein> etherealG: there is no "monitor" mode on ethernet. There is promiscuos. And no, changing it does not break existing connections (you mean TCP , right?)
[00:21] <FrozenFire> Is there a decent bandwidth monitoring daemon that provides a Gnome panel app?
[00:21] <etherealG> yeah, tcp
[00:21] <etherealG> thanks for the info, I'll have a go then
[00:21] <MrStein> bye
[00:21] <mun24_> GTK-Warnign**:Failed to load module "libcanberra-gtk-module.so" any clue?
[00:21] <Zappo> Does anyone know how to find out the local ip?
[00:22] <mun24_> use ifconfig
[00:22] <etherealG> Zappo: ifconfig
[00:22] <yoyoned1> Zappo: ifconfig
[00:22] <mazda01> mubu, read 3.10 How to keep specific versions of packages installed (complex)
[00:22] <Zappo> Thanks
[00:23] <etherealG> thanks for the help, laters guys
[00:24] <bobofosho> i  keep getting this message when checking for defects: "invalid or corrupt kernel imeage"
[00:24] <bobofosho> whats that mean
[00:24] <bobofosho> *image
[00:25] <bobofosho> any ideas guys
[00:25] <bobofosho> ???
[00:25] <mechtech> bobofosho: checking what for defects?
[00:25] <funkywds> bobofosho: huh.  that's an odd one.
[00:26] <yoyoned1> bobofosho: when do you get the error
[00:26] <funkywds> bobofosho: that means your CD didn't burn right.  try using a different burner
[00:26] <Zappo> bye
[00:26] <bobofosho> the burner is fine i burned windows the other day
[00:26] <bobofosho> and it worked
[00:26] <funkywds> bobofosho: windows is less of a problem with errors
[00:27] <bobofosho> true dat
[00:27] <funkywds> bobofosho: linux is more discriminate
[00:27] <mechtech> bobofosho: when checking the cd for defects?
[00:27] <bobofosho> yep
[00:27] <funkywds> bobofosho: maybe it's your burner or the recording app/media that's your problem
[00:27] <funkywds> bobofosho: weird and rare, to be sure
[00:28] <funkywds> bobofosho: esp since you burned 2 of them
[00:28] <mechtech> bobofosho: prolly corrupt download...re-download, then re-burn and try again...at any rate, you cannot use that kernel image
[00:28] <funkywds> mechtech: not a bad idea
[00:28] <kapipi> Hmm someone is sending me a request that I complete a questionnaire through Ubuntu Brainstorm.Is that normal?
[00:28] <bobofosho> well i'll try redownloading
[00:28] <mechtech> kapipi: never give out personal/financial info to anonymous sources on the internet
[00:29] <bobofosho> i guess
[00:29] <stroyan> bobofosho:  There is actually a firmware update for one of the possible optical drives in that type of laptop.  But it looks like it requires windows to update that firmware.  http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/SoftwareDescription.jsp?lang=en&cc=us&prodTypeId=321957&prodSeriesId=3687778&swItem=ob-70726-1&prodNameId=3687786&swEnvOID=1093&swLang=13&taskId=135&mode=4&idx=3http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/SoftwareDe
[00:29] <stroyan> scription.jsp?lang=en&cc=us&prodTypeId=321957&prodSeriesId=3687778&swItem=ob-70726-1&prodNameId=3687786&swEnvOID=1093&swLang=13&taskId=135&mode=4&idx=3http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/SoftwareDescription.jsp?lang=en&cc=us&prodTypeId=321957&prodSeriesId=3687778&swItem=ob-70726-1&prodNameId=3687786&swEnvOID=1093&swLang=13&taskId=135&mode=4&idx=3
[00:29] <FloodBot1> stroyan: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:29] <mazda01> bobofosho, did you check the m5sum or whatever that is to make sure your download was correct
[00:29] <kapipi> Well its not exactly anonymous. The sender is claiming to be a french student writing a thesis on innovation.
[00:29] <stroyan> Wow! A one URL flood!
[00:29] <mechtech> stroyan...he said he was able to burn fine in win...most likely a corrupt daownload
[00:29] <kapipi> But the questionnaire is like .. very long...
[00:30] <^Phantom^> I have a file that is encrypted.
[00:30] <funkywds> stroyan: lol
[00:30] <mechtech> kapipi: do what you like, but I would leave out cirtical personal info (name, address, phone #, ss# etc)
[00:30] <^Phantom^> I have the decryption code for it, but i can't get the file to open in any media player
[00:30] <^Phantom^> it's a .wmv video
[00:31] <^Phantom^> Can I please get some help with this?
[00:31] <kapipi> mechtech: I think im going to ignore it. Its very long, something's odd. As a student you dont have time to process that much information.
[00:31] <mechtech> ^phantom^: you need to convert to mpeg4 or something more generic than wmv
[00:32] <mechtech> kapipi: I'm always wary of onyone or anything asking me for info on the internet
[00:32] <funkywds> ^Phantom^: you have to install the w32codecs package
[00:32] <mechtech> ^phantom^ my bad
[00:32] <kapipi> mechtech: well the info isnt personal, but a hell of a lot of profiling questions
[00:32] <funkywds> http://fczaja.blogspot.com/2007/04/wmv.html
[00:32] <funkywds> ^Phantom^: http://fczaja.blogspot.com/2007/04/wmv.html
[00:33] <^Phantom^> Oh, I have that installed and can play .wmv files.
[00:33] <funkywds> yay
[00:33] <kapipi> mechtech: And I'm wondering if the sender isnt violating some rules on Ubuntu Brainstorm by contacting me (and probably a lot of other people) like that.
[00:34] <mechtech> kapipi: I would ignore it...let him profile someone else...perhaps he's trying to capture IPs and habits for hacking purposes (most likely unsecure ports etc...)
[00:34] <^Phantom^> It's just that this one is one of those "digital copy" files from a DVD movie I purchased last night.
[00:35] <syntax> I get no sound when playin 3gp files..how do i fix that and im on ubuntu linix
[00:35] <syntax> linux^
[00:35] <losher> kapipi: it's probably legitimate, a graduate student. Ubuntu Brainstorm seems like a perfect place to find subjects for innovation research. It *is* a bit cheeky though...
[00:36] <mechtech> kapipi: I don't know what the rules are for Ubuntu Brainstorm, but the activity seems suspicious to me
[00:36] <Faltzer> My mouse loses focus many times on applications and the clicks don't work a lot on Jaunty + GNOME
[00:36] <salmon> having a bit of a problem, so my old hard drive died, i got a new one, tried to install ubuntu 9.04 on it, didn work, said device not ready, so i burnt a new disc, still got the same thing. for some reason i got ubuntu studio to load, but studio is terrible. is there a way to turn ubuntu studio back to reg ubuntu
[00:36] <kapipi> mechtech: Indeed, I cant find anything about the survey anywhere, so Im going to skip on it.
[00:36] <mzz> !pastebin > dl
[00:37] <funkywds> salmon: try Linux Mint
[00:37] <mechtech> kapipi: good idea
[00:37] <funkywds> salmon: it's a slick, tweaked ubuntu variant.
[00:37]  * funkywds likes linux mint
[00:38] <mechtech> why would the operator for pastebin post please see my private message?
[00:38] <salmon> funkywds, i just want good old ubuntu. and im wondering how to unpack ubuntu studio to make it just standard ubuntu
[00:38] <mechtech> bot, not operator
[00:38] <mzz> mechtech: because I had it send a private message to dl
[00:38] <funkywds> salmon: well, that'll be a huge pain...
[00:39] <mechtech> mzz: from pastebin?
[00:39] <mzz> mechtech: no, about pastebin
[00:39] <funkywds> salmon: you would install the standard ubuntu packages and uninstall the sudio packages
[00:39] <mechtech> mzz: oh
[00:39] <mechtech> anybody know why synaptic is showing wine-gecko with a star on it?
[00:39] <LrdHelmet> what's a good way to get transparent windows?
[00:39] <salmon> funkywds, studio is weird, and nothing works right on it. that and im not sure how i would go about that anyway
[00:40] <^Phantom^> Oh oh.
[00:40] <salmon> funkywds, im willing to go through the process. i just don´t know how
[00:41] <losher> salmon: try again with 8.04.3 LTS...
[00:41] <funkywds> salmon: i see.  i only recomment Linux Mint because i've had it work in situations where Ubuntu doesn't since Linux Mint comes with proprientary, non-free drives available
[00:41] <funkywds> *drivers
[00:42] <Faltzer> My mouse loses focus many times on applications and the clicks don't work a lot on Jaunty + GNOME. I have the screensaver turned off and Compiz disabled as well, but to no avail. Is there a way I can figure out the culprit in this case?
[00:42] <salmon> losher, i have been trying my 8.04 disc, 9.04, and 8.10 discś all day with no luck
[00:42] <^Phantom^> I have a hard drive that i have backed up files on.  It's formatted as an NTFS drive.  Is it safe for me to organize those files from within ubuntu?  Or should I do that stuff from within windows?
[00:42] <salmon> funkywds, where do i find this linux mint and how much does it differ from ubuntu?
[00:42] <funkywds> ^Phantom^: past from withing windows, but it can be done in ubuntu
[00:43] <^Phantom^> is it safe, though?
[00:43] <losher> salmon: and yet studio worked? How odd. Different kernel? Anyone know?
[00:43] <trimeta> !ntfs3g | ^Phantom^
[00:43] <mechtech> ^Phantom^: ntfsprogs...in synaptic
[00:44] <mechtech> ^Phantom^: ntfs3g is also in synaptic
[00:45] <^Phantom^> okay, thankies
[00:45] <mechtech> ^Phantom^: under cross platform
[00:45] <salmon> losher, i think it has some serious diffs, because nothing really works on it. even some of the programs that come with it. and help you if you try to install anything new on it. flash doesn work at all. and all kinds of simple stuiff like that
[00:45] <Kimimaro> Alguém disponível para me ajudar?
[00:45] <losher> !br | Kimimaro
[00:46] <Kimimaro> #ubuntu-br
[00:46] <mechtech> losher: how did you know that was portuguese...I thought it was spanish and almost !spanish on it
[00:46] <losher> salmon: ok then, can you say more about what hardware you changed, and what exactly happens when you try booting 'regular' ubuntu?
[00:46] <trimeta> Kimimaro: Type "/join #ubuntu-br"
[00:46] <losher> mechtech: because I speak spanish :-)
[00:47] <Kimimaro> vlw! sorry
[00:47] <mechtech> losher: cool
[00:48] <salmon> losher, only thing that changed was the hard drive, went from a sea gate 80gb to a WD 160gb, nothing else changed, and when i try to install it the loader comes up, i select any of the options and the loading screen comes up, then i get a screen where it tells me that it failed and the device is not ready. then i get a spot where i can type with (initframs) preceding it. thats all really know
[00:48] <mechtech> does anyone know why wine-gecko has a star on it in synaptic?
[00:49]  * funkywds internets are funky today
[00:49] <salmon> losher, i had first thought it might be a problem with the new hard drive, but ubuntu studio installed fine
[00:49] <legend2440> mechtech: i think that means there is an upgrade available
[00:49] <losher> salmon: and why did you change the hard drive?
[00:49] <mechtech> salmon: look at the back of the drive, it seems that maybe you have the jumper set to slave, when it should be master, or cable select
[00:50] <mechtech> legend2440: thanks
[00:50] <salmon> losher, the old one died
[00:50] <abhirami> i ramanan, rediff.com business graphs  are not downloading.  It asks for shock wave player which was already installed in the system . How to correct it.
[00:50] <funkywds> salmon: to answer your question, Linux Mint *IS* ubuntu, just tweaked a bit to be more elegant and easier.  it also includes non-free proprietary drivers that ubuntu doesn't come with by default
[00:50] <salmon> mechtech, there is no jumper on the back of the drive, should i pull one off the old drive
[00:50] <funkywds> http:..linuxmint.com
[00:50] <funkywds> http://linuxmint.com
[00:51] <salmon> mechtech, plus i got studio to install so that doesnt make all that much sense to me
[00:51] <mechtech> salmon: yes
[00:51] <losher> salmon: the reason I ask is because maybe the drive didn't die. Maybe it's was the controller or something on the mobo? It still doesn't explain why studio installed though...
[00:52] <pianistbaby> hi guys, how can i see my daily bandwidth use (internet volume) on my ubuntu comp, in an easy, newbie-friendly way?
[00:52] <Cube> hey, i have a cron-scheduled script. its scheduled to run daily. so when will it be run? like its 1am right now. did it run already? ALSO: I WANT my bash script to wait till i have an internet connection till executing some commands. how can i do that?
[00:52] <mechtech> pianistbaby: system onitor
[00:52] <funkywds> losher: good call.  if his old drive didn't work, and the new one doesn't either, it's not the drives (prolly) that're the prob
[00:52] <mechtech> monitor
[00:53] <pianistbaby> mechtech: i have that. but i want something that logs it for every day.
[00:53] <mechtech> pianist: man interfaces
[00:53] <trimeta> Cube: I'm pretty sure cron-daily things run at 3 AM, but it's set somewhere in your cron stuff...look around your /etc/cron* things.
[00:53] <syntax> mint looks nice to
[00:53] <m3onh0x84> hi every body
[00:53] <trimeta> Cube: Yea, specifically look at /etc/crontab; that'll tell you when things in cron.daily are run.
[00:54] <funkywds> syntax: i've been running mint for a long time now.  it really smoothes out some of ubuntu's edges
[00:54] <funkywds> syntax: mintInstall is pretty great.  it's like Ubuntu's add/remove programs, but has screenshots, user ratings and reviews built into the app
[00:54] <m3onh0x84> I want to ask a question: I want to auto report bug to launchpad so not log in to web site ?
[00:55] <Cube> trimeta: ooh! perfect. thanks A LOT. (so if my computer is not running at 3am, it will wait till i start it up e.g. at 8am and the run the daily things??)
[00:55] <syntax> Thats nicee...Is it pretty stable?
[00:55] <m3onh0x84> because  sometime I disconnect
[00:55] <losher> funkywds: salmon: at this stage, I would still be concerned about your hardware. Run an overnight memtest, and also download & run the WD disk diagnostics....
[00:55] <funkywds> syntax: very.  as much as ubuntu
[00:55] <trimeta> Cube: I'm not sure...I think you may need to install anacron to do that. Though it may already be installed by default...
[00:55] <funkywds> losher: salmon: i concur
[00:55] <superGear> If you want stable you use slackware
[00:56] <trimeta> superGear: No, if you want stable you use Debian.
[00:56] <funkywds> trimeta: if you want stable, you use windows 95
[00:56] <trimeta> funkywds: My BSOD says otherwise. ;-)
[00:56] <losher> superGear: slackware isn't the only stable solution. Centos springs to mind. And the bsds....
[00:56] <kj> im a dj and im new to this OS im trying to find a dns and a way to download stuff
[00:57] <Scunizi> funkywds: stable is DOS 5.0
[00:57] <legend2440> pianistbaby: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/bandwidth-monitoring-tools-for-linux.html
[00:57] <mechtech> ubuntu is improved debian
[00:57] <pianistbaby> legend2440: thanks.
[00:57] <funkywds> Scunizi: lol
[00:57] <trimeta> Personally, I don't want stable, so it's all moot from my perspective.
[00:57] <m3onh0x84> :D
[00:57] <funkywds> trimeta: lol
[00:57] <Scunizi> funkywds: thought you might get a kick out of that :)
[00:58] <mechtech> kj: use google's dns, and try frostwire
[00:58] <felix_> FirstSgt, ty for help. reinstalling php solved. :P cya
[00:58] <superGear> If you want stable you use FreeBSD actually :P
[00:58] <funkywds> Scunizi: remember, win95 ran on DOS 6.0, 6.2, and 6.22
[00:58] <losher> trimeta: in that case we have lots of solutions for you :-)
[00:58] <trimeta> losher: I'm running Gentoo, so yea.
[00:58] <kj> ty mec and can i use Mirc on this OS?
[00:58] <samalex> yay, I'm about to order a System76 Pangolin Performance laptop :)  Anyone else using System76?
[00:58] <mechtech> supergear: the discerning user who wants stable buys a Mac
[00:58] <superGear> remember when Windows Me tried to hide its DOS
[00:58] <trimeta> kj: mIRC is Windows-only.
[00:58] <kj> ty
[00:58] <superGear> kj: you can use mIRC with WINE but why?
[00:58] <mechtech> kj: frostwire for windows
[00:58] <solexious|netbk> Does any one know if I have 2 dual dvi graphics cards on one system, can I output to 4 screens? (nvidia)
[00:59] <Scunizi> funkywds: yep.. remember win3.1? or even 3.0?  I use to run DOS 3-5 with no gui and a $400 300baud modem (Hayes)
[00:59] <kj> i ot a chat i goto on mirc
[00:59] <kj> unless i can get to it with this
[00:59] <trimeta> kj: There are lots of other IRC clients you can use on Linux.
[00:59] <Pay87> anyone who knows how to hide the mouse courser on the secondary screen when i am on the other screen?? using nvidia with compiz. seperate x screens.. ??
[00:59] <superGear> kj: xchat and konversation are good IRC alternatives
[00:59] <Greyfox> GOOD NIGHT !
[00:59] <guestadmin> Is there a way to undo a sudo mv command? Accidentally mispelled to folder and it created some unreadable non directory with the misspelled name, and some how my file inside of it
[00:59] <funkywds> Scunizi: i was a ms beta tester for 10 years.  i remember 1.0 and 2.0.  i then remember running back to my mac and wondering what the hell was wrong with those guys
[00:59] <superGear> mIRC =! IRC
[00:59] <kj> ty lol
[00:59] <Scunizi> funkywds: :))
[01:00] <trimeta> guestadmin: Well, you can just move it somewhere else...if you can't even type the name, though, you're kind of in trouble.
[01:00] <mechtech> LOL @ funkywds!
[01:00] <kj> im still trying to set up the wifi on this thing
[01:00] <funkywds> Scunizi: i'm a mac guy now, but i'm really into linux, too, esp debian/ubuntu variants
[01:00] <superGear> wicd
[01:00] <losher> guestadmin: can you tell us the *exact* mv command you mistyped?
[01:01]  * superGear hates mac fanbois
[01:01] <funkywds> Scunizi: but i'm looking forward to the day when some linux flavor can really give osx a run for the money
[01:01] <mindframe> im using ubuntu 8.04 and the login window is not popping up when I get past the boot process.
[01:01] <funkywds> Scunizi: but for everyone who doesn't have a mac, i recomment ubunut/linux mint
[01:01] <trimeta> funkywds: I'm betting on Ubuntu being the one to pull that off.
[01:01] <mechtech> mindframe: xserver not loading?
[01:01] <superGear> 9.04 is much better than 8
[01:01] <funkywds> trimeta: well canonical just announced that "osx is the one to beat"
[01:01] <Scunizi> funkywds: never played with mac.. got confused once when I was still MS-washed.  But we're seriously off topic.. #ubuntu-offtopic.. but I gotta go anyway.. cheers!
[01:02] <mindframe> mechtech, X is up, just no login window
[01:02] <mechtech> mindframe: do yo have a command prompt?
[01:02] <mindframe> mechtech, no it's at a gui with a mouse, just no login window
[01:03] <mechtech> mindframe: it booted directly to your desktop environment?
[01:03] <causasui> I have a USB hard drive that I want to use for computer repair service. If I partition it and copy the files from the ubuntu install ISO onto a partition, then install grub, will it work?
[01:03] <mindframe> mechtech, its not my DE.  no icons or toolbars
[01:03] <mindframe> just a screen with a mouse
[01:03] <trimeta> causasui: Probably better to do the USB install thing. Let me go remember how that works...
[01:04] <causasui> trimeta: I ask because I want to do it with some other ISOs as well, such as Hiren's bootCD
[01:04] <trimeta> causasui: Just copying things wouldn't work, because it wouldn't properly set up the boot loader.
[01:04] <causasui> trimeta: That's why I was going to install grub
[01:04] <mechtech> causasui: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/linux/create-a-bootable-ubuntu-usb-flash-drive-the-easy-way/
[01:05] <trimeta> To get Ubuntu to work, you can go to Sytem>Administration>USB Startup Disk Creator
[01:05] <causasui> All right, this will work for that one at least, but what about the other ISOs I want like Hiren? Can GRUB work with those?
[01:05] <mechtech> mindframe: seems like you might have hosed xserver
[01:05] <trimeta> causasui: If you want more than one, it gets confusing; I'm honestly not sure how to set it up reliably.
[01:05] <mechtech> mindframe: I'm gonna bow out now to someone with more knowledge
[01:06] <mindframe> mechtech, should i dpkg --reconfigure or remove and install?
[01:06] <mechtech> mindfram: remove and re-install...then reconfigure to get to where you were
[01:06] <mindframe> mechtech: what package name?
[01:07] <kj> i got a error with frostwire somthing about sunjava
[01:07] <axeus> I'm having some trouble with Gparted showing my disk as unallocated. I ran it from terminal and I got the error "Cannot have overlapping partitions.".. I just did a scan with Testdisk, does anyone see any overlapping partitions or anything? I'm not sure how to look for it lol. http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m2a028872
[01:07] <mechtech> mindframe: again...bowing out to someone with more knowledge...I would hate to hose your system further
[01:07] <mindframe> heh :)
[01:08] <Cube> trimeta: oh? well i have this ubuntuzilla script. it checks if i have the latest firefox. its a daily cron event. it also works when im not on at 3am ;)
[01:08] <Pay87> anyone who knows how to hide mouse cursor on separate x screens?
[01:08] <Cube> trimeta: how should i write a script so it waits until i have an internet connection?
[01:09] <trimeta> Cube: Hmm. Well, you could have it check for internet connection, and if not then sleep for 10 minutes and try again.
[01:09] <trimeta> That isn't using cron, though.
[01:09] <Cube> trimeta: yeah! how should i write that. the internet connection check i mean
[01:09] <Cube> (yeah im aware its bash not cron)
[01:10] <trimeta> Cube: I don't know, something fancy with ping and seeing if you're getting a response? Or check if you've got an IP address in ifconfig? Get creative.
[01:12] <Cube> trimeta: heh lol ok. btw if im on via wireless, it would still work with ifconfig right?
[01:12] <trimeta> Cube: Yea, ifconfig will tell you your IP address either way. It will be in a different-looking line, though, so if you're using grep to parse the output make sure you take that into account.
[01:12] <ferna56> Hi..everyone
[01:13] <trimeta> !hi | ferna56
[01:13] <Pay87> damn mouse cursor fu*ks ne up :D
[01:13] <ferna56> I'm having some problems with my ubuntu server installations.. version 8.04
[01:13] <trimeta> ferna56: Could you be more specific?
[01:14] <trimeta> I've got a couple of servers running Hardy, so I'll help if I can.
[01:14] <Cube> trimeta: im pretty new to bash actually. how should i write the whole IF clause, and how would i make it look for a ping response?
[01:14] <ZOMBE> Hello. Could I get some help with installing software?
[01:15] <ferna56> I was installing joomla, and ran the following command on the joomla directory.. sudo find . -type f -exec chmod 644 {} \; and suddenly I lost access to everything..
[01:15] <ferna56> I could not even run an ls on the directory.. anymore..
[01:16] <ZOMBE> Could I get some help?
[01:16] <trimeta> Cube: Let's see..."ping -c 4 google.com" will try sending 4 packets to Google. You should get four responses that look like "64 bytes from yx-in-f100.google.com (74.125.45.100): icmp_seq=1 ttl=46 time=70.3 ms"
[01:16] <mubu> Hey guys synaptic failed to install something and now i cant install any packagaes cause im told synaptic is already running. Can anyone tell me how to fix this? thanks
[01:16] <ferna56> the apache server went down.. the postfix server went down..
[01:17] <ZOMBE> Nobody can help me?
[01:17] <dataviruset> please help me - a quick one... what does if [ -z ... ] check in shell programming?
[01:17] <mubu> Anyone?
[01:17] <VCoolio> ZOMBE: just tell what you're installing and how, maybe someone has a suggestion
[01:17] <lillis> ZOMBE: List your problem instead of just asking
[01:17] <Cube> trimeta: alright kk. now :)?
[01:17] <ZOMBE> I am trying to install this file NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-185.18.14-pkg2.run and I can't figure out how to.
[01:17] <trimeta> ferna56: You're sure you were in the joomla directory when you ran that command?
[01:18] <ZOMBE> I looked up guides online and can't see mto find a helpful one I can understand.
[01:18] <trimeta> Cube: Now, ping -c 4 google.com|grep -qe "^64 bytes" will return with a 0 exit status if you have network connection, and a non-zero status if you don't.
[01:18] <Zxcvb> how do you compile a kernel for a 32 bit x86 system when you are on x86-64?
[01:18] <ferna56> yes I do... I have the putty screen just to make sure... I was there...
[01:18] <dataviruset> please help me - a quick one... what does if [ -z ... ] check in shell programming?
[01:19] <iceroot> trimeta: ping -c 4 host && echo 0     is much easier then yours
[01:19] <Cube> trimeta: gotcha! thats good. how do i form the IF clause though? lets say the command that it has to do if there is internet is "foo"
[01:19] <trimeta> iceroot: Ah, I wasn't sure if ping returned an appropriate exit status.
[01:19] <iceroot> trimeta: yes
[01:19] <trimeta> Though, will pinging host detect lack of internet connection, if net.lo is working?
[01:20] <ferna56> we rebooted and can't login... the server sends a message that says could not CD to home/username.. access denied...
[01:20] <losher> dataviruset: man test
[01:20] <kj> im trying to install a network manger for wirless and i cant do it i dont know how
[01:20] <GaMeStEr2665> Hello!
[01:20] <Cube> trimeta: hmm. lol.
[01:20] <Temlar_Xion> kj apt-get install network-manager
[01:20] <shell> kj, ubuntu has one built in
[01:20] <GaMeStEr2665> naked pics
[01:20] <GaMeStEr2665> ?
[01:21] <dataviruset> losher: big thanks to you :)
[01:21] <Cube> trimeta: cause see my problem is the script i have updates some status of me on the internet, right? now if it runs while i have no internet connection, it wont do anything
[01:21] <ferna56> we had to boot by GRUP and recovery mode right to the root prompt...
[01:21] <losher> ZOMBE: if I recall, it's a shell script. You have to kill your X11 server and then run it like so: sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-185.18.14-pkg2.run
[01:22] <dahlia> is there any gui like thingie for adding a 2nd disk and formatting it? I think I want to add a big reiserfs disk and I'm not sure of the best way to do it
[01:22] <kj> shell i cant get it to work
[01:22] <Doug_M> Hey everyone.. just to let you know im new to all Linux distro's.  I have always been a mac user but recently moved to florida and using a PC my mom gave me.  Im looking for a Linux distro to install and have been leaning towards Ubuntu.  My question is.. how hard is it to get used to?  I have been a mac user forever and just cant stand PC's.
[01:22] <freefm> Hi, I'm having a strange problem.  I'm trying to run FreeCAD, but when I run "./visual freecad8.im" (as the instructions state) I get the error "./visual: No such file or directory" even though "ls" lists the file "visual"
[01:23] <ZOMBE> I do sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-185.18.14-pkg2.run in my Terminal but all it says is "Can't open NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-185.18.14-pkg2.run" It's saved on my desktop, does that make a difference? I am 100% new to Linux, I used Windows since literally 3.1
[01:23] <losher> dahlia: gparted is probably the app of choice for that
[01:23] <dahlia> Doug_M, Ubuntu is probably the easiest distro I've ever used
[01:23] <iceroot> Doug_M: ubuntu is ok for beginners
[01:23] <lillis> ZOMBE: type ls -l
[01:23] <dahlia> ty losher, looking...
[01:23] <lillis> and tell me what it says about the NVIDIA file
[01:23] <ferna56> there are some lines on the bootup process trying to load some configuration files.. and guess.. permission denied...!
[01:23] <trimeta> Cube: Anyway, iceroot is right; just doing "ping -c 4 google.com > /dev/null" gives you the status as appropriate.
[01:23] <iceroot> Doug_M: and if yu can handle BSD, you can also handle ubuntu
[01:23] <fortunev> How do I enable Large File Support in Ubuntu?
[01:23] <losher> ZOMBE: you need to cd Desktop first
[01:23] <shell> you see the bar at the top of the screen at the right hand corner there is a icon that looks like stairs steeps
[01:24] <FrozenFire> Does anyone else experience constant stuttering with HD video on Youtube? I have an Intel 82945G/GZ graphics chipset.
[01:24] <lillis> ZOMBE: what string of letters is it? (like -rwx-----) or something like that
[01:24] <ZOMBE> losher: do you have a link to a guy that can tell me how to cd my dekstop?
[01:24] <trimeta> So if you want to sleep while you have no internet, you can do "while ! ping -c 4 google.com > /dev/null; do sleep 10m; done"
[01:24] <FrozenFire> It's not so much that the audio stutters, but rather that the video refuses to play smoothly
[01:24] <jdu> ZOMBE, you probably need to type: cd Desktop  first
[01:24] <soreau> Doug_M: You will like ubuntu. Many Mac lovers use linux and have helped make it easy to look like a Mac + better
[01:24] <trimeta> Though I'd check that before running it.
[01:24] <freefm> ZOMBE: "cd Desktop"
[01:24] <losher> ZOMBE: you literally type "cd Desktop"
[01:25] <Zxcvb> are there any kernel 2.6.30.3 packages for jaunty?
[01:25] <shell> FrozenFire, try reinstalling flash player
[01:25] <soreau> Doug_M: Also, ubuntu is most probably the best linux distro for a noob to linux because it caters to users
[01:25] <Doug_M> iceroot, dahlia, soreau: cool thanks guys... yeah im really looking forward to using it.  Prepairing to install it right now.  A few things I am worried about is using Ventrillo, and im a web developer so ill hav to find apps to use
[01:25] <ZOMBE> That worked, then when I did NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-185.18.14-pkg2.run it said bash: NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-185.18.14-pkg2.run command not found
[01:25] <soreau> Doug_M: There is a LOT of support for it
[01:25] <FrozenFire> shell: It has happened under multiple installations. It's not an issue with my specific installation, beyond configuration
[01:25] <Cube> trimeta: wow wait. but how can i use that information that is now stored in a file?
[01:25] <lillis> ZOMBE: don't forget the sh before
[01:25] <freefm> ZMBE try ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-185.18.14-pkg2.run
[01:25] <dahlia> Doug_M, you can run it from the cd if you want to try it before installing it
[01:25] <lillis> or that freefm said :)
[01:26] <iceroot> Doug_M: for th important question, yes you can use photoshop with wine
[01:26] <shell> FrozenFire, ok i honastly dont know
[01:26] <iceroot> Doug_M: :)
[01:26] <soreau> Doug_M: Google what ever you need with keyword 'ubuntu' or 'linux' and if you can't figure it out, ask here or in ##linux
[01:26] <ZOMBE> I typed sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-185.18.14-pkg2.run and it started to work then I get a error must be run as root
[01:26] <ZOMBE> It's getting closer to working
[01:26] <dahlia> if I could only use 3ds max with wine :(
[01:26] <ferna56> can anybody ... help me.. please...
[01:26] <lillis> ZOMBE: running something as root requires typing "sudo" before and giving it your password
[01:26] <iceroot> !sudo | ZOMBE
[01:26] <freefm> ZOMBE, you're also going to turn off X
[01:26] <lillis> ZOMBE: like "sudo sh NVIDIA bla bla" and then enter your password
[01:26] <Cube> Doug_M: ventrillo will have a linux client very soon, but does not yet
[01:26] <Cube> Doug_M: check their website
[01:26] <Doug_M> cool thanks sorreau.. iceroot yeah i was looking at that... but after reading everything i have iv decided Ubuntu looks the best and i really just need to get rid of vista.. its pissing me off
[01:27] <Doug_M> cube - hey thanks ill look into it
[01:27] <trimeta> Cube: Put that line in a bash script; it should halt the script until you have internet access.
[01:27] <bieb> can I upgrade directly from 8.04 to 9.04?
[01:27] <ZOMBE> What lillis said work, now it tells me to turn off x. How can I go about that?
[01:27] <Cube> trimeta: ooh! ok
[01:27] <iceroot> Doug_M: not only you...
[01:27] <Cube> trimeta: put it on the very top right?
[01:27] <Pay87> how to hide a mouse cursor on secondary screen when i am on the primary???? :(
[01:27] <Doug_M> haha
[01:27] <freefm> ZOMBE, Write down the code first
[01:27] <iceroot> bieb: no
[01:27] <ZOMBE> Sorry, what do you mean by the code?
[01:27] <freefm> ZOMBE, Then sudo killall xorg
[01:27] <computer> hi i cant seem to be able to write to my hard drive. someone help please.
[01:27] <Doug_M> alright guys here i go.. im sure ill be here asking quesitons once i start the process
[01:27] <trimeta> Cube: Before the stuff you don't want to happen when you have no internet. But it needs to be after the #!/bin/bash line.
[01:28] <bieb> iceroot: how do I upgrade to 9.04 then?
[01:28] <lillis> ZOMBE: to install those drivers you need to not be using the graphical interface
[01:28] <Cube> trimeta: yeah. thanks :)
[01:28] <iceroot> bieb: 8.04 then 8.10 then 9.04
[01:28] <lillis> ZOMBE: so you'll have to type "sudo killall xorg" to kill the graphics user interface (i.e. the desktop)
[01:28] <lillis> ZOMBE: that will launch you back to a black and white text screen, there run the same thing
[01:28] <lillis> ZOMBE: sudo sh NVIDIA-etc-etc
[01:28] <ZOMBE> I get xorg: no process killed
[01:28] <Cube> trimeta: ima use facebook.com though
[01:28] <ZOMBE> I typed in exactly sudo killall xorg
[01:29] <Cube> just change address, right? nothing else?
[01:29] <guestadmin> found my solution here ;) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=744693
[01:29] <computer> hi i cant seem to be able to write to my hard drive. someone help please.
[01:29] <shell> so i got this great game tremulous but the graphic setting are not up to par and i honastly do not know what to do is there some sort of autoconfig like option?
[01:29] <freefm> So any ideas about my FreeCAD problem?
[01:29] <trimeta> Cube: Yea. Though do make sure to test the script before relying on it; try it both with the computer online and offline, to make sure it does what you think it should do.
[01:29] <freefm> Hi, I'm having a strange problem.  I'm trying to run FreeCAD, but when I run "./visual freecad8.im" (as the instructions state) I get the error "./visual: No such file or directory" even though "ls" lists the file "visual"
[01:29] <lillis> ZOMBE: hit ctrl+alt+F2 to come to the console (black and white text screen), login there and do sudo killall xorg
[01:29] <lillis> ZOMBE: and then the sudo sh NVIDIA--
[01:29] <bieb> iceroot: I have tried apt-get upgrade and it tells me no new release is available
[01:29] <iceroot> !upgrade | bieb
[01:30] <lillis> bieb: you need to update your lists first, apt-get update
[01:30] <lillis> bieb: and upgrade after that
[01:30] <iceroot> lillis: wrong
[01:30] <lillis> iceroot: maybe i should read more than the latest line
[01:30] <lillis> (:
[01:30] <freefm> lillis: that can be dangerous
[01:30] <ZOMBE> Even in the black screen I get xorg: no process killed. I logged in, password, typed sudo killall xorg
[01:30] <iceroot> lillis: he wants to upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10 and then 9.04
[01:31] <VCoolio> ZOMBE: "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop"
[01:31] <mechtech> why does torrentreactor.net not show me the search cloud anymore?
[01:31] <lillis> ZOMBE: try killall Xorg
[01:31] <lillis> capital X
[01:31] <Cube> trimeta: ok. i will. thanks!
[01:31] <jdu> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop is the correct way to stop xorg
[01:32] <jdu> not that it really matters I guess
[01:32] <Cube> hah ok
[01:32] <Cube> it doesnt wait
[01:32] <lillis> jdu: good point though :)
[01:32] <Cube> it just keeps going ;)
[01:32] <ZOMBE> Same thing, no process killed
[01:32] <Cube> trimeta: it doesnt wait
[01:32] <lillis> ZOMBE: see what jdu wrote
[01:33] <lillis> ZOMBE: I'm impressed, most new Linux users would've given up by now and reinstalled XP :)
[01:33] <mechtech> zombe: ps ax ...see if it is in the list
[01:33] <trimeta> Cube: Try removing the exclamation point and seeing if that helps.
[01:33] <lillis> There we go
[01:33] <lillis> :)
[01:33] <freefm> mechtech: drivers can suck in windows too
[01:34] <kj> my usb is not working thays why my wirless is not working
[01:34] <Cube> trimeta: in #!/bin/bash?
[01:34] <kj> sorry to asking alot of stuff
[01:34] <trimeta> Cube: No, in the "while ! ping -c 4 google.com > /dev/null; do sleep 10m; done" line.
[01:34] <dahlia> ty losher gparted worked great :)
[01:34] <mechtech> freefm: I would have to agree...I remember when ATI first released the radeon line...nightmare!
[01:34] <mechtech> kj: ask away
[01:34] <SFW> anyone having internet connection problems relating to dns?
[01:34] <losher> dahlia: cool...
[01:35] <kj> how would i get my usb to work
[01:35] <iceroot> SFW: no
[01:35] <fortunev> Sorry for the repeat. I am trying to use vobcopy with the -l to make one large vob file. I got an error that file is greater than 2G. Does Ubuntu have Lage File Support? How do I enable it?
[01:35] <dahlia> now... is there an easy way to copy all the files from one partition to another? I can do it with tar but I winder if there is a gui thingie
[01:35] <mechtech> kj: what device...or all devices?
[01:35] <Audica> Hi everyone, I'm dualbooting Win7 and Ubuntu, I recently re-installed win7, and it overwrote whatever GRUB is saved to, so now I cannot select my linux partition. is there any way to get this back?
[01:35] <KB1JWQ> SFW: Yes.  Your DNS problems have broken the internet for everyone.
[01:35] <dahlia> *wonder
[01:35] <KB1JWQ> dahlia: rsync
[01:35] <kj> none of my usb ports are working how would i update them?
[01:35] <sebsebseb> !grub  |  Audica
[01:36] <kj> and its a wireless card im trying to get to work
[01:36] <mechtech> Audica: was just going to say that
[01:36] <mechtech> kj: usb wireless card?
[01:36] <Audica> gracias.
[01:36] <SFW> KB1JWQ: there is a serious problem affecting 9.04 users
[01:36] <kj> yes
[01:37] <ThreeNertia> Wow, there's so many people in here
[01:37] <mechtech> kj: man interfaces, and ifwconfig
[01:37] <ana> hello , ubuntu mid edition with usb-key ...install in ALL hard drive? no partitions? thank you.
[01:38] <ThreeNertia> Anybody in here ever tried to use a Sony DRU-830A usb dvd burner in Ubuntu?
[01:38] <KB1JWQ> SFW: Which would be what, exactly?
[01:38] <fortunev> ThreeNertia: was that your elbow in my ear? :)
[01:38] <kj> where do i find them?
[01:38] <mechtech> anyone know why torrentreacotr.net no longer shows me the search cloud?
[01:38] <kj> im a noob
[01:38] <iceroot> mechtech: maybe wrong channel
[01:39] <mechtech> iceroot: yeah...sorry
[01:39] <iceroot> ThreeNertia: where should be the problem using it?
[01:39] <SFW> recent updates over the weekend have been disabling internet after rebooting (seems to be limited to 9.04 32-bit i386 users)
[01:39] <ThreeNertia> Well, I inserted a music cd into. It pops up and puts an icon on my desktop. But in Properties it says it's not mounted
[01:39] <ThreeNertia> I would like to mount it to a specific directory
[01:40] <ThreeNertia> But it's got a path of cdda://sr1
[01:40] <mechtech> kj: open a terminal window and type man interfaces
[01:40] <kj> tyty
[01:40] <ana> hello , ubuntu mid edition for notebooks with usb-key ...install in ALL hard drive? no partitions posible? thank you.
[01:40] <mechtech> kj:  ifwconfig is a command line utility for configuring a wireless card
[01:40] <KB1JWQ> SFW: And this is DNS based?
[01:40] <KB1JWQ> SFW: Restarting networkmanager doesn't fix it?
[01:40] <ThreeNertia> No idea what it's under in /dev
[01:41] <billenium> is there a command i can run to change apt-get repos to universal or things of that such?
[01:41] <MarcoDFW> hello to all, I have problems sharing folders between Ubuntu 9.04 and Win XP
[01:41] <mechtech> ana: is it telling you no partitions are possible, or are you asking if you can install to a drive with no available linux partitions?
[01:41] <MarcoDFW> does any one experienced this probelm
[01:41] <trimeta> billenium: You probably want to edit the /etc/apt/sources.list file
[01:42] <ThreeNertia> Would it be /dev/sr1 ?
[01:42] <Seracht_> hi
[01:42] <SFW> KB1JWQ: yes... can ping ip but not domains, stops updates... hundreds of posts in the forums all describing the same problem
[01:42] <billenium> trimeta: probably, but i hate doing that through CLI :P
[01:42] <Seracht_> anyone here know if the setuid invariant bug is fixed or not
[01:42] <mechtech> !ntfs3g | MarcoDFW
[01:42] <trimeta> billenium: Ah, you want a GUI frontend. System>Adminstration>Software Sources
[01:42] <billenium> i'm SSHing
[01:42] <KB1JWQ> SFW: Which package update specifically?
[01:43] <MarcoDFW> actually I have installed samba and my win can not see my ubuntu share folder
[01:43] <trimeta> billenium: If all you've got is a command prompt, you may be forced to use a CLI to modify the sources.
[01:43] <mechtech> MarcoDFW: also ntfsprogs...both of which are available in synaptic package manager under cross platform
[01:43] <SFW> KB1JWQ: we're trying to narrow down what is causing it
[01:43] <MarcoDFW> let me try that
[01:43] <MarcoDFW> thabnks
[01:43] <dahlia> ty KB1JWQ rsync seems to be doing it :)
[01:43] <msds1502> can someone help me with a GRUB loader issue?
[01:43] <billenium> Yeah, nano isn't installed by default, and i suck with vi... and i need to edit sources.list with vi to be able to install nano.
[01:43] <billenium> CRUEL IRONY!
[01:43] <ana> Hello, wetchtech, I ask if it is possible to install ubuntu mid edition in a partition, have 3 partitions, but install in usb-key ubuntu mid edition and take-off with usb-key and he(she) me warns that DESTRUIRA ALL MY DISC I LAST, and I do not want to destroy everything
[01:43] <KB1JWQ> SFW: Is it depopulating /etc/resolv.conf?
[01:43] <jdolan> does anyone know how to make Evolution not show "email folders" like .bashrc?  lol.
[01:43] <ThreeNertia> Oh well
[01:44] <trimeta> billenium: Really? Nano isn't in the default repos?
[01:44] <jdolan> what a piece.
[01:44] <mechtech> billenium: pico
[01:44] <KB1JWQ> dahlia: Yeah, it's good like that.
[01:44] <Max-Headroom> hello
[01:44] <billenium> pico nor nano
[01:44] <mechtech> LOL@ max-headroom
[01:44] <KB1JWQ> billenium: Nano's more widespread, same thing.  I use vim.
[01:44] <mechtech> billenium: use pico
[01:44] <mechtech> I do
[01:44] <VCoolio> billenium: if you know the line you can do "echo deb blah >> /etc/apt/sources.list"
[01:44] <msds1502> Can someone help me with a GRUBloader issue?
[01:44] <billenium> Hmm, i have to find what all the sources are firist i guess
[01:45] <SFW> KB1JWQ; it's not resolv.conf as far as i remember, we've been trying to figure out how to fix it
[01:45] <kj> mechteck may i pm you?
[01:45] <mechtech> msds1502: what is the issue with grub loader?
[01:45] <lillis> msds1502: List your problem and somebody will help if they can.
[01:45] <mechtech> kj: sure
[01:45] <ThreeNertia> You *nix folks are definately a knowledgeable bunch
[01:45] <KB1JWQ> SFW: Define we.
[01:45] <msds1502> I have 3 operating systems installed at this moment
[01:45] <MarcoDFW> Thanks MechTech the problem is my windows can not seen my ubuntu shares not the opposite, If I connect the ubuntu to my router works? but using the wifi does not
[01:45] <billenium> er, how do i save in vi?
[01:45] <msds1502> I was wondering if I can have the Windows 7/Vista bootloader come first install of the GRUB loader
[01:46] <davertron> billenium: shift+zz
[01:46] <msds1502> instead** not install
[01:46] <ThreeNertia> billenium: :wq
[01:46] <KB1JWQ> SFW: All right, put this to a pastebin:  cat /etc/resolv.conf; dig @4.2.2.2 www.google.com; getent hosts www.google.com
[01:46] <Pay87> found the solution for the mouse prob here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/357901
[01:46] <max-headroom> blah windows 7 and vista
[01:46] <lillis> msds1502: do you want to switch bootloader from GRUB to another one?
[01:46] <mechtech> MarcoDFW: ok...I thought you were trying to get access to ntfs files on the same drive, or at least the same computer...sorry
[01:46] <lillis> msds1502: or do you want Vista to autoboot?
[01:46] <trimeta> msds1502: That's mentioned in the wiki page as well.
[01:46] <MarcoDFW> not this is driving crazy
[01:46] <max-headroom> no more bad ones operating system you can't find
[01:46] <billenium> ThreeNertia: i think i have to hit something before :wq
[01:47] <davertron> so i have ubuntu desktop installed, and i'm running the machine as a headless server now; what can i get rid of to basically have an ubuntu-server install?
[01:47] <Doug_M> join #linux
[01:47] <ThreeNertia> Esc
[01:47] <ana> i have two OS too now but ubuntu mid edition no posible in partition? all hard drive?
[01:47] <billenium> thanks :)
[01:47] <lillis> davertron: xorg to begin with
[01:47] <ThreeNertia> Glad to be able to help, makes me feel good
[01:47] <ThreeNertia> Since I'm technically just a newb
[01:47] <davertron> i'm guessing i can get rid of gnome
[01:47] <lillis> davertron: yes
[01:47] <davertron> lillis: any other big packages i could drop?
[01:47] <billenium> ThreeNertia: thanks for telling me that D: I feel like a Mac user now...
[01:47] <MarcoDFW> 3 computers , 2 ubuntus and 1 windows... the unutus can see each other fine http, samba, ssh but windows can not see the ubuntu 9.04 the other ubuntu is 8.10 and works fine serving windows
[01:47] <davertron> lillis: if i dump gnome, will it dump things like firefox and things like that as well?
[01:48] <ThreeNertia> lol
[01:48] <lillis> davertron: gnome, gdm, xorg, firefox, openoffice etc.. but really the big issue is making sure that a lot of useless programs run in the background, like sound daemons etc
[01:48] <msds1502> So i boot up my computer and it goes into GRUB, giving me the option to boot Ubuntu (in various modes) or go to the Vista/Windows Loader.  I would like the Vista loader to come first and give the option of going into the Ubuntu/GRUB loader
[01:48] <MarcoDFW> this is driving crazzzy
[01:48] <lillis> davertron: no you'll have to do it manually
[01:48] <ThreeNertia> Thanks for the ego-boost XD
[01:48] <MidasManchu> I have a variety of network drives which I have bookmarked in gnome.  I'd love to be able to download/open files directly to these bookmarks, but they don't appear in the file dialog boxes.  Any idea how I can fix this?
[01:48] <davertron> mmmm
[01:48] <davertron> lillis: ok
[01:48] <KB1JWQ> msds1502: Edit menu.lst and change the default.
[01:48] <davertron> lillis: thanks :)
[01:49] <lillis> davertron: remove big packages and especially gdm which auto-boots xorg, and then make sure you have the proper daemons running and ports open
[01:49] <ana> ..ohh
[01:49] <lillis> that's atleast what i'd focus on.. but I'm not a linux whiz ;)
[01:49] <davertron> lillis: i'm using ssh right now, that's how i get into the box
[01:49] <msds1502> where does it list the Default?
[01:49] <davertron> i've been running it "headless" for awhile
[01:49] <lillis> davertron: ah :) well then
[01:49] <davertron> it used to be a media server but i just want to use it as a server/dev box
[01:50] <davertron> i've also been running into a weird issue where, after a day or so, i can't ssh into my box anymore
[01:50] <davertron> it won't respond to pings either
[01:51] <MarcoDFW> 3 computers , 2 ubuntus and 1 windows... the unutus can see each other fine http, samba, ssh but windows can not see the ubuntu 9.04(wifi) the other ubuntu is 8.10(wired) and works fine serving windows, any ideas
[01:51] <davertron> i have to power cycle it
[01:51] <davertron> not sure what's going on with that but
[01:51] <Dr_Willis> davertron:  thats why i put heads on my headless servers..
[01:51] <ThreeNertia> Can anybody tell me why Pidgin won't connect? Aside from the fact, I'm on dial-up. It should be slow, but it shouldn't take forever
[01:51] <davertron> haha
[01:51] <davertron> touche!
[01:51] <davertron> :)
[01:51] <smxy> Quick question: I'm a UNIX/Linux SysAdmin. The only Linux I've used is RedHat/CentOS. I suddenly find I need to administer Ubuntu systems and they are alien to me. Can you point me at a resource that might help me QUICKLY apply what I  know to Ubuntu so I can come up to speed fast?
[01:51] <msds1502> KB1JWQ: what default are you talking about?
[01:51] <nanotube> Dr_Willis: they kinda stop being "headless servers" after you do that, don't they? :)
[01:51] <domina> Hey, shockwave flash is going really slow/choppy (more of a not really going much at all), can't watch youtube or anything. Anyone know how to fix that? I have the latest version installed...
[01:52] <davertron> nanotube: details details :p
[01:52] <nanotube> davertron: heh
[01:52] <Dr_Willis> nanotube:  i just neer turn on the monitors. :)
[01:52] <KB1JWQ> msds1502: In that file, there's a default set; I may be mistaken and it's grub.conf
[01:52] <Dr_Willis> nanotube:  ive had to many problems with 'headless' machines in the past.
[01:52] <nanotube> Dr_Willis: ah, that's ok then. hehe
[01:53] <Dr_Willis> nanotube:  i saw 15 inch lcd monitors for $99 on sale lately. :)
[01:53] <Doug_M> Are there any web developers here who are running ubuntu?  If so.. what apps do you prefer?  I don't need a WYSIWYG editor just a text / code based one.
[01:53] <msds1502> Someone said there was a section about this in the Wiki?
[01:53] <nanotube> Dr_Willis: yea, they're getting pretty cheap these days.
[01:53] <mechtech> kj: who made the card...see your PMs
[01:54] <nanotube> Doug_M: i like geany and scite
[01:54] <Dr_Willis> geany is nice.
[01:54] <davertron> Doug_M: vi :)
[01:54] <nanotube> !grub
[01:55] <nanotube> !grub | msds1502
[01:55] <Doug_M> nanotube - thansk ill look into them
[01:55] <nanotube> msds1502: probably that grubhowto page will have a tutorial exactly for what you're looking for in there somewhere
[01:55] <ThreeNertia> nanotube: Is that your bot?
[01:55] <nanotube> Doug_M: np, have fun :)
[01:55] <Ziber> 0% [Connecting to gb.archive.ubuntu.com (2a01:450:10:1::10)]
[01:55] <nanotube> ThreeNertia: nope, i don't run the bot
[01:56] <Ziber> Why would it just sit there?
[01:56] <nanotube> ThreeNertia: why?
[01:56] <ThreeNertia> Just wondering if anyone can issue commands
[01:56] <ThreeNertia> !help
[01:56] <ThreeNertia> lol
[01:56] <ThreeNertia> Been awhile since I was on IRC
[01:56] <smxy> Which I did. :)
[01:56] <nanotube> ThreeNertia: hehe
[01:57] <nanotube> !hi | ThreeNertia
[01:57] <ThreeNertia> !commands
[01:57] <ThreeNertia> How do you get a list of ! commands?
[01:57]  * ThreeNertia test
[01:57] <ThreeNertia> Kewl
[01:58] <ThreeNertia> !list
[01:58] <Dr_Willis> !lost :)
[01:58] <KB1JWQ> ThreeNertia: Help you with something?
[01:59] <msds1502> I'm having a hard time finding exactly what I need on that page..
[01:59] <aleksio> hi2all, changed fstab with something like 'defaults,noatime,data=writeback' in root sector. after reboot the system does not booting normally: it just mount / like r-o. how I can make changes back?
[01:59] <smxy> I see that the default runlevel is 2 X is running. What is the non-X runlevel and how do I configure the system to use that instead? (Aside from init at the comand line)
[01:59] <KB1JWQ> msds1502: Pastebin your grub.conf
[01:59] <ThreeNertia> KB1JWQ: Several things, actually
[01:59] <smxy> ...2 and X ...
[01:59] <domina> Does anyone know how to make flash run properly? New computer, isn't slow, neither is the internet, but youtube and other flash won't/barely play. I looked online for help and made sure I had the newest version and that quicktime wasn't interfering and stuff, but I still can't get it going...
[02:00] <SFW> KB1JWQ: a few of us on the forum are rechecking resolv.conf, it didn't solve my problem and have since reinstalled 9.04
[02:00] <Dr_Willis> smxy:  there is no non-x runlevel. If you dotn want GDM to start disable the GDm service
[02:00] <Dr_Willis> smxy:  ubuntu has gotten away from the runlevels sort of thinking that most other disrtos use.
[02:00] <Dr_Willis> !runlevel
[02:00] <msds1502> KB1JWQ: How can i get to my grub.conf? :-\
[02:00] <Dr_Willis> !sysv
[02:00] <smxy> ok
[02:00] <ThreeNertia> Why won't Pidgin connect
[02:00] <ThreeNertia> !Pidgin
[02:00] <KB1JWQ> !botabuse
[02:00] <brandonmpace> ThreeNertia: connect to what?
[02:01] <brandonmpace> ThreeNertia: yahoo? etc
[02:01] <smxy> and the corresponding command to RH's chkconfig command is?
[02:01] <ThreeNertia> Yes
[02:01] <smxy> I need to turn off all non-essential services
[02:01] <Dr_Willis> I need to track down a good Ubuntu Runlevels/init system for beginners guide. the 'upstart' pages are for more advanced ussage
[02:01] <ThreeNertia> It just sits there "Waiting for network"
[02:01] <brandonmpace> ThreeNertia: just a sec, I know the solution
[02:01] <ThreeNertia> I know dial-up is slow, but it shouldn't take forever
[02:01] <Dr_Willis> smxy:  use some of the various 'sysv' init tools to mange whats running .
[02:02] <Dr_Willis> smxy:  no idea what 'chkconfig' does.
[02:02] <brandonmpace> ThreeNertia: http://www.pidgin.im/download/
[02:02] <brandonmpace> ThreeNertia: you need to install the latest version from that site
[02:02] <KB1JWQ> msds1502: It should be in /boot or /etc
[02:02] <smxy> adds/removes the links in the /etc/rc.d directories fr each runlevel
[02:02] <losher> Dr_Willis: apparently neither do the ubuntu developers, either...
[02:02] <ThreeNertia> I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling
[02:02] <msds1502> you don't want the menu.lst?
[02:02] <ThreeNertia> Didn't work
[02:02] <ThreeNertia> I'll try it again, though
[02:02] <KB1JWQ> msds1502: Both.
[02:02] <brandonmpace> ThreeNertia: yahoo changed their server security settings. Did you update after you did that?
[02:03] <brandonmpace> ThreeNertia: in pidgin click help> about
[02:03] <brandonmpace> tell me the version number
[02:03] <ThreeNertia> Is there some sort of auto-updating
[02:03] <ThreeNertia> Or is there a command I need to issue or ?
[02:03] <brandonmpace> just go to System>Administration>Update Manager
[02:04] <brandonmpace> and check for updates
[02:04] <ThreeNertia> Ahhh
[02:04] <ThreeNertia> Must be blind, lol
[02:04] <ThreeNertia> Thanks
[02:04] <msds1502> KB1JWQ:  http://paste-bin.com/view/c51c42bb    menu.lst
[02:04] <losher> smxy: I think you can download & install a version of chkconfig for ubuntu. Might be unsupported though...
[02:04] <brandonmpace> It should update to 2.5.8
[02:05] <ThreeNertia> Now I just gotta figure out how to mount my usb Sony dvd burner to /mnt/Sony
[02:05] <smxy> Oh, I'd rather learn the proper ubuntu method
[02:05] <losher> smxy: when you see what the 'proper ubuntu method' is, you might reconsider...
[02:05] <smxy> haha
[02:06] <smxy> yes, all flavors of unix and linux are so different from each other
[02:06] <ThreeNertia> For being essentially the same, anyway
[02:06] <KB1JWQ> msds1502: Set default to 6 or 7; I'm not sure offhand; might ask in #grub
[02:06] <brandonmpace> ThreeNertia: it automounts when you put media in it
[02:06] <ThreeNertia> It says it's not mount
[02:06] <ThreeNertia> And it's path is cdda://sr1
[02:07] <zsolt> http://www.shareapic.net/content.php?gid=683390&owner=uri_geller
[02:07] <ThreeNertia> I want it to mount to /mnt/Sony
[02:07] <brandonmpace> did you put a blank disc in?
[02:07] <smxy> I read about update-rc.d but the man page says admins should not use that and should use sys-rc-conf or bum instead. A man of either produced nothing though
[02:07] <ThreeNertia> No, it's an audio cd
[02:07] <brandonmpace> ah
[02:07] <losher> smxy: check out man update-rc.d
[02:07] <smxy> see what I just said :)
[02:07] <msds1502> #grub is pretty sparse :(
[02:07] <viagrastim> can anuone help ?
[02:08] <phil__> whats your problem?
[02:08] <KB1JWQ> !ask | viagrastim
[02:08] <phil__> sorry i was away
[02:08] <viagrastim> i try to install utorrent in wine it dont work
[02:08] <ThreeNertia> brandonmpace: Is there something I'm missing, or not understanding?
[02:08] <losher> smxy: told you you'd reconsider. It's a mess...
[02:08] <smxy> :)
[02:08] <smxy> so that *is* the command I should use then?
[02:09] <smxy> or should I just go into rc2.d and start deleting links like in the old days?
[02:09] <losher> smxy: bum is an installable app. I've never used it myself. apt-cache search bum
[02:09] <sebsebseb> !torrent |  viagrastim
[02:09] <KB1JWQ> viagrastim: For one, I'd advise using something *nix native for bittorrenting.  If you insist on utorrent, you might want to clarify "doesn't work."
[02:09] <sebsebseb> viagrastim: it should work in wine
[02:09] <brandonmpace> idk, if you open rhythmbox does it show up?
[02:09] <sebsebseb> !work |  viagrastim   KB1JWQ
[02:09] <ThreeNertia> Yes, it all works fine
[02:10] <KB1JWQ> sebsebseb: I'm aware, that's why I was asking him for clarification. :-p
[02:10] <VCoolio> smxy: chkconfig is in the universe repo
[02:10] <ThreeNertia> I just want to actually mount to a directory that can be messed with
[02:10] <phil__> @viagratism
[02:10] <brandonmpace> why do you want it to mount to /mnt/sony?
[02:10] <phil__> pm me
[02:10] <ThreeNertia> As /mnt/Sony
[02:10] <brandonmpace> ah
[02:10] <sebsebseb> KB1JWQ: well I sent to both of you
[02:10] <viagrastim> yeah
[02:10] <smxy> I don;t even know what the universe repo is :) But I suppose I'll find out. :)
[02:11] <VCoolio> smxy: but a howto on ubuntuforums I read this week works with manually installing; universe repo can be enabled in synaptic
[02:11] <losher> !repo
[02:11] <losher> smxy: see ubottu links above...
[02:11] <ThreeNertia> I miss broadband
[02:11] <sebsebseb> VCoolio: system > administaration > software sources  and then enable it
[02:11] <ThreeNertia> 2 hours to download Pidgin
[02:11]  * ThreeNertia cries
[02:12] <smxy> tyvm :)
[02:12] <phil__> @threenertia
[02:12] <ThreeNertia> !games
[02:12] <phil__> why!
[02:12] <jdoghacker>  hey everyone go to  jfiles.net78.net its a network security consulting and ethical hacking im testing ip adresses for free right now
[02:12] <sebsebseb> smxy: see above at how I said to enable repo
[02:12] <ThreeNertia> Dial-up
[02:12] <aleksio> hi2all, changed fstab with something like 'defaults,noatime,data=writeback' in root sector. after reboot the system does not booting normally: it just mount / like r-o. how I can make changes back?
[02:12] <smxy> ok
[02:12] <riz0n> Is it possible to set up Ubuntu as an Active Directory Domain Controller?
[02:12] <phil__> threenertia: thats a bummer
[02:12] <ThreeNertia> 2 kb/s
[02:12] <sebsebseb> !dialup |  ThreeNertia
[02:12] <ThreeNertia> If I'm lucky
[02:13] <KB1JWQ> riz0n: Mostly. :-p  That's more of a samba question
[02:13] <ThreeNertia> 1.6 at the moment
[02:13] <ThreeNertia> Especially when you're used to 10 mb/s
[02:13] <user10> /msg nickserv identify me
[02:13] <ThreeNertia> I'm connected via dial-up
[02:13] <inruin> hello all
[02:13] <sebsebseb> ThreeNertia: ok
[02:13] <riz0n> KB1JWQ: That's what I figured. I want to set up and mimic an active directory domain controller so I dont have to get Windows Server 2003. Do you have more info?
[02:13] <ThreeNertia> Using wvdial
[02:13] <ThreeNertia> Because kppp won't work
[02:13] <ThreeNertia> !kppp
[02:13] <inruin> do you know anything about gparted?
[02:14] <ThreeNertia> Ewww, lag
[02:14] <ThreeNertia> Must be the download
[02:14] <sebsebseb> !gparted |  inruin
[02:14] <ThreeNertia> Lagging me more than usual :'(
[02:14] <smxy> universe appears to be enable already
[02:14] <inruin> I tryed to sudo it but i installed ubuntu from a flash drive and windows has taken up most all of the partition
[02:15] <ThreeNertia> Would I first have to uninstall Pidgin to re-install the newer version? Or would it just overwrite the old one?
[02:15] <VCoolio> smxy: ok, then install chkconfig if you like
[02:15] <inruin> I dont hhave enough room to dl it on ubuntu
[02:15] <smxy> doing that now
[02:15] <inruin> can I do it from vista?
[02:15] <sebsebseb> !install | inruin
[02:16] <sebsebseb> !dualboot |  inruin
[02:16] <ThreeNertia> !automate
[02:16] <LrdHelmet> hey, anybody use Rhythmbox here?
[02:16] <Dr_Willis> inruin:  vista I think has its own tools to resize ntfs partitiosn.. or boot linux from a live cd and use gparted that way.
[02:16] <inruin> great thanx!
[02:16] <VCoolio> smxy: you may like this link (lists a lot of the things loaded during boot and what can be left out): http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89491
[02:16] <Dr_Willis> inruin:  backup any imporntant stuff BEFOR resizing
[02:16] <smxy> tyvm
[02:17] <inruin> ok thank you willis
[02:17] <ThreeNertia> Why is Firefox-3.5 called Shiretoko?
[02:17] <ThreeNertia> !Shiretoko
[02:17] <sebsebseb> !ff35 |  ThreeNertia
[02:18] <Dr_Willis> Thats the Top Secret code name. :)
[02:18] <smxy> VCoolio: that link is very useful. Thank you.
[02:18] <ThreeNertia> !jaunty
[02:18] <sebsebseb> inruin: and if you re sizing Vista really it should resize itself, or dataloss can happan
[02:18] <ThreeNertia> Is the bot ignoring me
[02:18] <ThreeNertia> Not even bots like me :*(
[02:18] <Dr_Willis> inruin:  yea. vista and win7 both have  very good 'resizeing' features/tools that work faster then the linux ones.
[02:18] <Dr_Willis> ThreeNertia:  it answered you.
[02:18] <sebsebseb> !info |  ThreeNertia
[02:18] <ThreeNertia> Wow
[02:19] <ThreeNertia> I hate dial-up
[02:19] <ThreeNertia> All this lag
[02:19] <sebsebseb> ThreeNertia: why did I do info hmm
[02:19] <VCoolio> smxy: yep, found and used it this week, helped a little (but removing readahead as it strongly suggests broke my boot so I set that back)
[02:19] <sebsebseb> !bot |  ThreeNertia
[02:19] <Dr_Willis> so if we all talk real fast. ThreeNertia  will get disconnected?
[02:19] <sebsebseb> ThreeNertia: people have to trigger the bot see, otherwise yes, it ignores  people
[02:19] <inruin> great yeah I checked it out
[02:19] <ThreeNertia> !info jaunty
[02:19] <smxy> ok, good to know
[02:19] <inruin> hahah
[02:20] <smxy> I'm stripping this system down to the minimum so I can make it an iptable firewall/router.
[02:20] <shadow420> I am trying to get a friend online with ubuntu 9.04
[02:20] <novalys> Can anyone help me out with a video issue (Second Monitor in the VGA slot of my laptop not working?)
[02:20] <smxy> iptables*
[02:20] <Dr_Willis> novalys:  always state your video chipset in such questions also. :)
[02:20] <ThreeNertia> Dr_Willis: Probably
[02:21] <mustardstache> trying to install desktop ubuntu with a RAID 1, anyone have advice on how to prepare partitions?
[02:21] <Dr_Willis> novalys:  ive used the 'xrandr' tools to activate the 2nd monitor befor and tweak it.. also  you did try the special hotkeys to enable teh external monitor?
[02:21] <Dr_Willis> !raid
[02:21] <ThreeNertia> !info jackalope
[02:21] <ThreeNertia> Iptables is a bitch to learn
[02:21] <shadow420> I am trying to get a friend online with ubuntu 9.04 but it's not connecting shes trying to connect to the web using a cable modem
[02:22] <novalys> This is the chipset" Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)
[02:22] <smxy> I'm very familiar with iptables. Been using it for years. :)
[02:22] <chiques> does anyone use skype around here?
[02:22] <mustardstache> thanks!
[02:22] <smxy> But you are correct. They are a bitch to learn. :)
[02:23] <Dr_Willis> with things like iptables.. leran the basics.. build up your knowledge. :)
[02:23] <novalys> It's a VAIO laptop, it doesn't have any special key for enabling the second monitor... :(
[02:23] <Dr_Willis> now Regular Expressions.. thats fun to learn.
[02:23] <psycho__kitta> wasssup!
[02:23] <Mike_lifeguard> Dr_Willis: unbelievably useful
[02:23] <Dr_Willis> novalys:  i would check again VERY closely.. ive never seen a laptop that didenthave some key combo for that.
[02:23] <smxy> I hate regex, lol
[02:24] <ThreeNertia> !info jackalope
[02:24]  * ThreeNertia pokes his modem
[02:24] <inruin> ok need a little help
[02:24] <Dr_Willis> Regular expressions.. its like leraning a whole new language.. :) then theres the dozen+ dialects..
[02:24] <ThreeNertia> Ouch, I just got flooded
[02:24] <psycho__kitta> i got a question
[02:24] <smxy> perl, sed, grep, anything that uses them, uses them differently
[02:24] <novalys> Hehe I know right.. but it's true, its a vaio fw170j, only FN keys available are Mute, Brightness up/down, Zoom up/down and sleep.
[02:24] <Mike_lifeguard> How can I have Evolution consolidate all my emails from a few accounts into the "on this computer" folders?
[02:24] <psycho__kitta> i play RuneScape and i cant play in HD even though i have a nvidia gfx cardx
[02:24] <ThreeNertia> Perl regexs are too bad
[02:24] <ThreeNertia> Yeah
[02:24] <ThreeNertia> That's the problem
[02:25] <ThreeNertia> I had a Sony Vaio
[02:25] <ThreeNertia> Till someone stepped on it :*(
[02:25] <inruin>  have 4 partitions an eisa partition, Acer c: partition, a 2.53 gb partition and a 174 mb partition
[02:25] <ThreeNertia> !sed
[02:25] <novalys> Actually now that I tried... even when Fn + F7 doesnt have any label on it.. when pressed the desktop does like a blink..
[02:26] <psycho__kitta> is any1 gonna help me *getting angry*
[02:26] <KB1JWQ> ThreeNertia: Any chance you could pick the bot's brain in a PM instead of in the channel? :-)
[02:26] <losher> smxy: awk, vi, ed...
[02:26] <ThreeNertia> Wish I could have my actual nickname
[02:26] <Flannel> ThreeNertia: Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for chatting, keep this channel for Ubuntu support.  Thanks.
[02:26] <smxy> yup and the list goes on
[02:26] <Seracht> anyone here know waht the setuid invariant is?
[02:26] <inruin> if i shrink the acer partition will more space show on the partition to the left or right of it or do I manually allocate the extra space?
[02:26] <ThreeNertia> Ouch
[02:27] <losher> Seracht: the 'setuid invariant'?
[02:27] <Seracht> yes
[02:27] <Seracht> it's a bug of sorts
[02:27] <novalys> Dr_Willis: Just to know how can I use the xrandr tools? on the output im getting this: VGA disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) but im possitive it's connected..
[02:27] <Seracht> in the old linux kernel (specifically v 2.4)
[02:27] <psycho__kitta> hi
[02:27] <psycho__kitta> who are you
[02:27] <ThreeNertia> If anyone was helping me, I wouldn't just be aimlessly chatting (>.<)
[02:27] <ThreeNertia> Later
[02:28] <inruin>  have 4 partitions an eisa partition, Acer c: partition, a 2.53 gb partition and a 174 mb partition
[02:28] <losher> Seracht: you mean as in 'setuid Demystified'
[02:28] <Seracht> yes
[02:28] <inruin>  which is ubuntu?
[02:29] <Seracht> yes
[02:29] <Seracht> is the invariant still in there
[02:29] <syntax> =testing out linux mint on the pc
[02:29] <inruin> and if i shrink the acer partition can i allocate it manually ?
[02:29] <Mike_lifeguard> iron: you can probably tell by what the partitions actually are. ubuntu is probably an ext3 partition
[02:29] <Flannel> !mintsupport | syntax
[02:30] <inruin> ok ill check lifeguard thanks
[02:31] <losher> Seracht: sorry, not the faintest idea. You probably need to ask on a developer and/or kernel channel...
[02:31] <losher> !kernel
[02:31] <Flannel> psycho__kitta: Do you have sun java installed? and the nvidia drivers from nvidia?
[02:32] <losher> Seracht: try #ubuntu-kernel
[02:33] <Seracht> thanks losher will try it
[02:33] <LiquidMeson> anyone have any experience with grub2 here?
[02:33] <LiquidMeson> is there a ubuntu dev room?
[02:33] <losher> LiquidMeson: I thought grub2 never actually made it out into the real world...?
[02:33] <weemo> IM GONAN CUM IN THIS CHANNEL AND DEFECATE
[02:33] <Flannel> LiquidMeson: #ubuntu+1 is the place for support for Karmic
[02:33] <LiquidMeson> i'm using grub2 right now
[02:34] <LiquidMeson> Flannel: Thanks
[02:34] <weemo> ban yourself
[02:34] <weemo> yo u can go get face in my anus
[02:34] <Flannel> weemo: Please stay on topic and watch your language.  Thanks.
[02:34] <weemo> no
[02:34] <weemo> die please
[02:35] <Seracht> pathethic
[02:35] <urthmover> I'm having trouble finding good docs for connecting an iphone2Gv3 to jaunty 64  anyone have some good docs?
[02:35] <losher> I particularly liked the admonishment to 'stay on topic'...
[02:36] <Seracht> losher you know if anyone is ever active in #ubuntu-kernel
[02:36] <Pricey> Seracht: they are
[02:37] <psycho__kitta> flannel:yes
[02:39] <losher> Seracht: many less populated channels are much quieter than this one & operate on a much longer time scale e.g you post a question and then wait, possibly for a day or longer, for people to check for messages. You yourself can check the archives for replies http://irclogs.ubuntu.com without having to stay logged in permanently. It's non-real-time IRC...
[02:40] <troythetechguy> I'm running Ubuntu 9.04 as host.  Is it better to install VirtualBox from repos, or .deb from VirtualBox site?
[02:40] <fenix^_^> ÇëÎÊ Ò»¸öÎÊÌâ
[02:41] <nanotube> troythetechguy: repos have the ose edition. if you don't need USB passthrough, use the repos.
[02:41] <nanotube> troythetechguy: if you do need usb, add the official virtualbox ubuntu repo, and then still use the repo. :)
[02:41] <losher> !cn | fenix^_^
[02:41] <troythetechguy> nanotube: Thank you.
[02:42] <funcky1> how do i name a hidden network so that i can connect to it in Wicd?
[02:42] <nanotube> troythetechguy: see this page for official virtualbox non-ose repos: http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads
[02:42] <fenix^_^> sorry
[02:42] <nanotube> troythetechguy: np :)
[02:43] <fenix^_^> i want install g77 in ubuntu 9.04 . but it seem : g77-3.4 (>= 3.4.6)
[02:43] <overclucker> i installed non-ose only to later notice that i don't even use the parts available only from non-ose
[02:45] <MrPiracy> can grub be installed on a fat16 partition?
[02:45] <afdasdfklja> greetings everyone. I have installed ubuntu server and sound works just fine when I'm not in X. when I'm in X, for some reason aplay -l says  no soundcards found. any clues ? google does not say much about xorg and audio.
[02:45] <tonsofpcs> afdasdfklja: pulseaudio ?
[02:45] <msds1502> when i try to edit menu.lst i get this message: You do not have the permissions necessary to save the file. Please check that you typed the location correctly and try again.
[02:45] <psycho__kitta> guyz
[02:45] <msds1502> how do I fix that?
[02:46] <troythetechguy> When using 8.04 I would type "vim filename" at command line to open editor, but in 9.04 vim file name says "vim not found".   Is VIM not included in 9.04, or was the VIM command in 8.04 a link to VI?
[02:46] <oldude67> msds1502, try putting sudo first
[02:46] <funcky1> hello all. here's a tough one for you: how do i name a hidden network so that i can connect to it in Wicd?
[02:46] <afdasdfklja> tonsofpcs, I'll check into that thx
[02:46] <lstarnes> msds1502: what are you using for editing it?
[02:46] <tonsofpcs> troythetechguy: sudo apt-get install vim   will install it
[02:46] <msds1502> lstarnes: gedit
[02:46] <tonsofpcs> i think it's default a symlink to vi but installing it installs vim
[02:47] <troythetechguy> tonsofpcs: Thank you.
[02:47] <lstarnes> msds1502: gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:47] <lstarnes> msds1502: don'
[02:47] <psycho__kitta> sudo apt-get install getalifeandgetfucked
[02:47] <lstarnes> msds1502: er, don't use sudo for that, use gksudo
[02:47] <msds1502> because of permissions?
[02:47] <DougM> What is a good HTML editor for Ubuntu?  I do not need a WYSIWYG editor at all.. just text/code based.  Iv been told two Geany and Scite.  Anyone have any experience with them?
[02:48] <lstarnes> msds1502: graphical applications shouldn't be used with sudo, partly due to its environment handling
[02:49] <overclucker> i used scite briefly, but eventually opted for vim/gvim
[02:49] <funcky1> hello all. here's a tough one for you: how do i name a hidden network so that i can connect to it in Wicd?
[02:49] <th0r> funcky1: click on the arrow next to Network and choose Hidden Network
[02:50] <UnholyLessons> how do i uninstall KDE? i dont like the way it looks or works
[02:51] <th0r> UnholyLessons: uninstall kde-desktop should do it
[02:51] <msds1502> When i'm at the GRUB loader screen, it gives me the option for "Other Operating systems" on one line and on the next it lists Windows XP.  When I edit 'default' in menu.lst does "other operating systems" count as an option?
[02:51] <UnholyLessons> command not found
[02:51] <lstarnes> UnholyLessons: the command for removing a package is sudo apt-get remove packagename
[02:52] <Dr_Willis> msds1502:  yes it does.. and the # starts at 0
[02:52] <losher> msds1502: I believe it does, because it's a hack to make it display...
[02:52] <Dr_Willis> msds1502:  i always remove that 'other' line anyway.. and just move windows to the top if i want to default to it.
[02:52] <gramps> nb
[02:52] <msds1502> What happens if i set timeout  to 0
[02:52] <Dr_Willis> msds1502:  it will do the default  setting with no menu i think
[02:53] <UnholyLessons> E: Couldn't find package kde-desktop
[02:53] <Dr_Willis> UnholyLessons:  its 'kubuntu-desktop'
[02:53] <LiquidMeson> exit
[02:53] <Dr_Willis> UnholyLessons:  so install the package 'kubuntu-desktop'
[02:53] <VCoolio> Dr_Willis: he's trying to get rid of it :)
[02:53] <UnholyLessons> i am uninstalling it, i prefer gnome
[02:53] <overclucker> haha
[02:54] <qiyong> does ubuntu have a full DVD?
[02:54] <Dr_Willis> UnholyLessons:  why bother.  there a factoid on removing  the kde desktop packages also.
[02:54]  * richardcavell has been playing Half-Life 
[02:54] <Dr_Willis> !puregnome | UnholyLessons
[02:54] <overclucker> you know, that you don't have to remove it to revert back to gnome
[02:54] <Dr_Willis> qiyong:  'full' meaning what? theres a dvd installer disk. but it just has more languages on it mainly.
[02:54] <cola> i need help with ati radeon x1650 and ubuntu 9.04
[02:54] <Dr_Willis> UnholyLessons:  you do know the LOGIN manager screen has a menu to select kde or gnome. or other window managers you got installed?
[02:54] <UnholyLessons> i just want to get rid of the HUD
[02:54] <Evet> goodnight
[02:54] <Dr_Willis> UnholyLessons:  HUD?
[02:55] <UnholyLessons> i know but i dont want a logon manager window at all
[02:55] <qiyong> Dr_Willis: means pkgs + source pkgs, i have a site no intterenet connection
[02:55] <UnholyLessons> HUD lol...sorry im in the military.
[02:55] <computer> how do i make VLC PLAYER my default media player without having to right click every single file type...????
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> UnholyLessons:  set the login manager to auto login....
[02:55] <UnholyLessons> where is login manager
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> UnholyLessons:  in the settings menus
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> sytesm -> admin - > login window
[02:56] <mgroman> |ohmy | Dr_Willis
[02:56] <UnholyLessons> it says GDM is not running and wont open
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> UnholyLessons:  if you are running KDE.. then that makes sence...
[02:56] <overclucker> oh, lol
[02:57] <UnholyLessons> i just removed KDE though
[02:57] <losher> UnholyLessons: one thing at a time. Remove kde first....
[02:57] <overclucker> i forget the kde-equevalent
[02:57] <UnholyLessons> ok
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm    to tell it to set to use gdm
[02:57] <computer> how do i make VLC PLAYER my default media player without having to right click every single file type...????
[02:57] <UnholyLessons> ok i reconfigured it
[02:58] <losher> computer: you google 'ubuntu default media player' and read the first link
[02:58] <overclucker> ugh, i hate totem
[03:00] <DougM> Hey.. i juts installed Ubuntu about half an hour ago for the first time.  If anyone could help me with this question thatd be awesome.. what im trying to do is install flash so I can watch videos embedded with flash online.  I tried installing it but it keeps giving me an error saying "Could not open "adobe-release-1386-1.0-1.noarch.rpm" archive type not supported."  Anyone able to help me?
[03:00] <overclucker> eh
[03:00] <overclucker> prn >> redhat
[03:00] <overclucker> i mean rpm >> redhat
[03:00] <richardcavell> DougM: You're trying toinstall the wrong thing
[03:00] <richardcavell> DougM: a .rpm file is for Red Hat Linux and its derivatives
[03:00] <overclucker> deb >> ubuntu/debian
[03:01] <richardcavell> DougM: Do you know what the Synaptic Package Manager is?
[03:01] <DougM> no.. im sorry im relaly new
[03:01] <DougM> really*\
[03:01] <richardcavell> DougM: Go to System Menu then Administration > then to Synaptic Package Manager
[03:01] <richardcavell> see it?
[03:02] <funcky1> b
[03:02] <DougM> ok got it
[03:02] <overclucker> DougM, waht yo uwant to do is pick a package manager to familiarize yourself with, and let it do all the heavy lifting
[03:02] <supercom32> gparted has so many partition table options. Can someone explain them to me? I suppose MSDOS is used almost in all cases?
[03:02] <richardcavell> DougM: Now, Doug, install everything through that
[03:03] <richardcavell> Don't download files from the Internet.  Install everything through that
[03:03] <rapt0rjezuz> I would really appreciate any help anybody can give, my mouse will freeze up randomly and the only way i can fix is it restart my computer. im on ubuntu 9.04
[03:03] <richardcavell> DougM: Okay?
[03:03] <DougM> what is a good one to pick.
[03:03] <richardcavell> supercom32: yeah
[03:03] <DougM> i take it i click on one of the items to the left then find the package on the right?
[03:03] <richardcavell> DougM: Within Synaptic, search for flashplugin-installer
[03:03] <DougM> ok one second
[03:03] <overclucker> DougM, the adobe flash plugin is a little tricky to install
[03:04] <DougM> ok i did that and it came up with 4
[03:04] <richardcavell> DougM: On the left side go to "All".  Then for "Quick search" type in flashplugin-installer
[03:04] <overclucker> DougM what happens, is you install an installer for flash plugin . . .
[03:04] <DougM> hamradiomenus, ax25-xtools, xdx, and preditc-gsat
[03:04] <Saruji> hello, when I try and install a GDM Theme, I get an error message that reads: This theme will not look as intended bc the required GTK+ theme engine 'ubuntulooks' is not installed
[03:04] <Aayush> how to find which version of gtk is currently installeds in my computer
[03:05] <richardcavell> DougM: Type flashplugin-installer into Quick search.  Select "All" on the left hand side
[03:05] <thiebaude> Saruji, is it installed?
[03:05] <Saruji> thiebaude: how do I find out?
[03:05] <thiebaude> Saruji, in synaptic
[03:05] <DougM> richardcavell: oh ok.. there is a lot more now.  Which one should i look for?
[03:05] <DougM> im sure ill see it
[03:05] <richardcavell> DougM: flashplugin-installer
[03:05] <thiebaude> Saruji, do a search for ubuntulooks
[03:06] <overclucker> DougM, from a console: sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin -y; sudo /tmp/adobe*
[03:06] <justinmiller87> Why would one pick flashplugin-installer over adobe-flashplugin from the partner directory?
[03:06] <thiebaude> Saruji, i had that happen to me before
[03:06] <Evelina> I have a problem with wakeonlan. When I halt the computer by the remote command sudo halt it turn into halt mode. The strange is that if I wait for only a copule of minutes then wakeonlan works just fine, but if I wait 10-20 minutes the wakeonlan doesn't work any longer, why?
[03:06] <richardcavell> justinmiller87: I'd advise him to install ubuntu-restricted-extras anyway
[03:06] <Aayush> how to find which version of gtk is currently installeds in my computer
[03:06] <DougM> richard i found it under the package list
[03:06] <rapt0rjezuz> I would really appreciate any help anybody can give, my mouse will freeze up randomly and the only way i can fix is it restart my computer. im on ubuntu 9.04
[03:06] <richardcavell> DougM: Okay do you also have ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[03:07] <Saruji> thiebaude: I found it in synaptics, but when I select it, it reads "to be remove" and one of them is ubuntu-desktop, should I trust this?
[03:07] <Flannel> richardcavell: flashplugin-nonfree is a transitional package, the package has been moved to flashplugin-installer
[03:07] <Evelina> Why doesn't wakeonlan work if I wait 10-20 minutes when it works if I wait only 1-5 minutes?
[03:07] <richardcavell> DougM: If you install ubuntu-restricted-extras then you get flash and a whole bunch of other things.
[03:07] <thiebaude> Saruji, no dont remove
[03:07] <Saruji> rapt0rjezuz: what type of mouse do you have?
[03:07] <justinmiller87> I usually use the comprehensive multimedia thread off the forums to do all my media-related stuff.
[03:07] <DougM> im not sure.. i just installed Ubuntu like half an hour ago
[03:07] <DougM> its installing hte flash plugin right now
[03:07] <thiebaude> Saruji, give me 1 sec
[03:07] <Saruji> thiebaude: right I know, then I wont have a desktop...ok thank you
[03:07] <alfa_> hi
[03:08] <richardcavell> DougM: From now on install everything through Synaptic, okay?
[03:08] <DougM> ok cool
[03:08] <DougM> hey thanks a lot for the help i really appreciate it
[03:09] <richardcavell> DougM: no problem
[03:09] <losher> DougM: Also, spend the rest of your life reading https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/index.html
[03:09] <richardcavell> DougM: I suggest installing ubuntu-restricted-extras then you get a bunch of other useful things too
[03:09] <DougM> alright ill look into that
[03:09] <DougM> haha thanks losher ill take a look
[03:09] <Saruji> thiebaude: maybe this is the problem, its a 8.04 theme
[03:11] <thiebaude> Saruji, i also tried to install that in the terminal and it says the same as in synaptic
[03:11] <Aayush> how to find which version of gtk is currently installeds in my computer
[03:11] <Saruji> Aayush: I currently have the same question
[03:11] <jrib> Aayush, Saruji: why?
[03:12] <ray66> Ubuntu Hardy I cannot get cairo-dock -o to start at boot even when added to sessions...
[03:12] <Saruji> jrib because I think that the theme I'm using is using an older version of gtk
[03:12] <thiebaude> Saruji, slightly different problems
[03:12] <jrib> Saruji: erm, what theme?
[03:12] <losher> Aayush: Saruji: from a terminat, type gtk-config --version
[03:12] <Saruji> jrib ubuntu hardy black
[03:13] <jrib> Saruji: what's the issue?
[03:13] <Saruji> thiebaude: ok any ideas?
[03:13] <Saruji> losher: thank you
[03:13] <thiebaude> Saruji, i trying to think of a work around
[03:13] <Aayush> jrib, when i try to install glade3 it shows gtk version >= 2.14 required
[03:14] <Saruji> jrib after installing reads This theme will not look as intended bc the require gtk+ theme engine 'ubuntulooks' is not installed, but after I go to install it, synaptics tries to remove ubuntu-desktop
[03:14] <jrib> Aayush: is glade3 not in the repositories?
[03:14] <Saruji> thiebaude: thank you
[03:14] <jrib> Saruji: hod did you "got to install it" exactly?
[03:14] <jrib> s/got/go
[03:15] <Saruji> jrib drag into the appearance windows the .gz file
[03:15] <thiebaude> Saruji, np
[03:15] <jrib> Saruji: did you say you tried to install "ubuntulooks"?  How exactly did you try?
[03:15] <Saruji> jrib through synaptics
[03:16] <DougM> Should it be hard to get Ventrillo running on Ubuntu?  Im gonna start looking at it online but just wondering if anyone here has done it
[03:16] <thiebaude> jrib, and also i tries the apt-get install method
[03:16] <thiebaude> tried
[03:16] <jrib> Saruji: pastebin the output of: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install gtk2-engines-ubuntulooks
[03:17] <huey23> i am having a problem installing a couple of packages...libdb4.3-dev, libdbd-mysql-perl, and libapache-dbi-perl.  has anyone ran into this and if so, how did you fix it?
[03:17] <jrib> huey23: pastebin the command and output
[03:17] <thiebaude> huey23, what kind of errors?
[03:17] <Saruji> jrib i ran the command and it asked me to install gtk2-engine-ubuntulooks
[03:18] <Saruji> jrib i hit yes installed you still want the output?
[03:18] <losher> DougM: I thought the linux client for Ventrillo isn't released yet...
[03:18] <jrib> Saruji: I wanted to see the output before "yes" but ok show all of it (including your command)
[03:18] <Saruji> jrib wow the message is gone
[03:18] <Saruji> k
[03:18] <jonex> any command line to open the volume console?
[03:18] <jrib> Aayush: still with me?
[03:19] <jrib> jonex: alsamixer?
[03:19] <Saruji> jrib i forget how do i output to a log file?
[03:19] <jrib> Saruji: just highlight with your mouse, copy and paste
[03:19] <jonex> i want to turn my volume up
[03:19] <jrib> !pastebin | Saruji
[03:19] <jonex> i d k how
[03:19] <jonex> in Ubuntu Studio
[03:19] <jrib> jonex: try alsamixer or just double click on the speaker icon
[03:19] <DougM> losher: thats what i am seeing.  I did notice someone online talking about using "wine" to install it.  Again im really new to Ubuntu (about an hour now haha) so i have no idea what they are takling abut but im going ot look into it
[03:19] <jonex> i dont have speaker icon
[03:20] <Aayush> jrib, when i install glade from repo it install 2.12 , may be i should hav install glade3
[03:20] <huey23> http://pastebin.com/m3f231bf5
[03:20] <jrib> jonex: right click on your panel -> add to panel -> volume control, or use alsamixer in a terminal
[03:20] <overclucker> alsamixer -V all
[03:20] <losher> DougM: wine is a linux application that lets your run *some* (but by no means all) windows apps under Ubuntu.
[03:20] <mataks> where can i find the boot log? everytime i reboot my pc i see sumthing error it's firmware bug or sumthing..
[03:21] <jrib> Aayush: right, there should be a package called "glade-3"
[03:21] <DougM> losher: hmm im going to look into it. See what I can come up with beacuse Ventrillo is something i somewhat need but if i cant get it i cant get it
[03:21] <losher> mataks: does it show up in the dmesg output?
[03:21] <jonex> thank!
[03:21] <jonex> I <3 U ALL!!!!!
[03:21] <Evelina> wakeonlan stops working after some time (10-20 minutes) but before that it works, why?
[03:22] <xim_> is it possible in ubuntu, like in windows with an autorun.inf file, to set a custom icon that is used for a cd or external drive when it is automatically mounted?
[03:22] <bumblebee> spotify is too good on ubuntu
[03:22] <huey23> if i run apt-get install libapache-dbi-perl by itself, it wants to install
[03:22] <RPG_Master> Stupid totem isn't letting me seek through movies that are in a mkv container :(
[03:22] <jrib> !pastebin | huey23
[03:22] <mataks> losher,  what's dmesg? im just new to linux.. it shows up after the ... starting linux .................. kernel .....                 then the error
[03:22] <huey23> http://pastebin.com/m3f231bf5
[03:22] <huey23> http://pastebin.com/m3f231bf5
[03:22] <Saruji> does anyone know the website to paste my output? I dont remember ahhh pastebin thank you huey
[03:23] <overclucker> YES! stupid totem!
[03:23] <jrib> huey23: there's no such package
[03:23] <losher> mataks: Just open a terminal and type dmesg. It lists all recent kernel messages...
[03:23] <overclucker> use videolan-client, or mplayer
[03:23] <Saruji> jrib http://pastebin.com/m302d28a1
[03:24] <mataks> losher,  ok wait
[03:24] <Saruji> jrib looks like it removed ubuntu-desktop
[03:24] <RPG_Master> I have been using VLC, but I messed with some setting to do with QT4 and now it crashes as soon as it loads up :(
[03:24] <jrib> huey23: maybe you want: libdbd-mysql-perl
[03:24] <jrib> !apt > huey23
[03:24] <RPG_Master> I shouldn't been messing with it seeing as how I am using GNOME...
[03:25] <jrib> Saruji: weird, what happens if you try to install them again explicitly?
[03:25] <Saruji> jrib like go back into synaptics and install ubuntu-desktop?
[03:26] <huey23> jrib: i put libdb-mysql-perl in and it comes with the output in the pastebin
[03:26] <overclucker> haha, why not?  i love tinkering, just remember what you tinkered with and it's all good
[03:26] <jrib> Saruji: install the 3 packages that were removed, yeah
[03:26] <jrib> huey23: you are making a typo.  Compare what you are typing to the package name I said
[03:26] <mattgyver[L]> Firefox takes a while to load pages on my ubuntu desktop however my laptop running the same, and other network machines do not. Its as if its behind a proxy, anyone know what i can check?
[03:27] <huey23> jrib: gotcha, what about libdb4.3-dev and db4.3-util?
[03:27] <mataks> losher,  i found the firmware bug.. here.... "[Firmware Bug]: powernow-k8: Your BIOS does not provide ACPI _PSS "
[03:27] <RPG_Master> overclucker: I shouldn't have been messing with QT4 settings when I am using GNOME which uses GTK :(
[03:27] <kleedrac> OK I installed Wine but it couldn't run the application I wanted so I installed cxover office but I'm pretty sure Ubuntu is still associating a ./*.exe back to /usr/bin/wine instead of the cxover version ... any way to correct this?
[03:27] <losher> mataks: I've no idea what that means. Start googling :-)
[03:28] <DougM> What do people here use as a music application.. i always used iTunes as i was  mac user but looking to see what other people use.
[03:29] <RPG_Master> DougM: SONGBIRD!
[03:29] <jrib> huey23: apt-cache search -n libdb dev; apt-cache search -n db util
[03:29] <thiebaude> RPG_Master, you beat me to it
[03:29] <DougM> RPB_master.. hey thanks.  Ill look it up right now
[03:29] <overclucker> DougM, vlc, songbird mpg123, mpg321
[03:29] <RPG_Master> thiebaude: :P
[03:29] <thiebaude> lol
[03:29] <DougM> haha
[03:29] <DougM> thanks guys
[03:30] <overclucker> mpg123 plays mp1-3's
[03:30] <overclucker> nearly all i ever use anymore
[03:30] <huey23> that'll do, 4.2, 4.4, and 4.7 :P  no 4.3
[03:30] <kleedrac> overclucker: I agree with you but these kids want their GUI's ;)
[03:30] <huey23> thanks jrib
[03:30] <overclucker> phht
[03:30] <RPG_Master> :P
[03:31] <kleedrac> I'm not saying it's a bad thing ... just different is all
[03:31] <Saruji> jrib ubuntu-desktop has installed successful and ubuntulooks is still installed, does this mean that everything is fine now and desktop will be there after restart?
[03:31] <overclucker> i thought screen gnome-terminal was a gui
[03:31] <RPG_Master> I am kinda partial to GUIs :)
[03:31] <jrib> huey23: no problem
[03:31] <overclucker> hehe
[03:31] <DougM> im not really concerned about the GUI i just need something to play my music
[03:31] <dfd> someone in Brazil?
[03:31] <rudi_> real men use w3m
[03:31] <DougM> looking at songbird right now
[03:31] <thiebaude> !pt
[03:32] <jrib> Saruji: there were two other packages removed, install them as well
[03:32] <overclucker> XMMS is also very nice
[03:32] <RPG_Master> What makes songbird really stand out is its add-ons
[03:32] <Saruji> jrib ok
[03:32] <thiebaude> pandora
[03:32] <coleys> RPG_Master: SONGBIRD SUCKS.
[03:32] <RPG_Master> coleys: :O
[03:33] <overclucker> lol, what really stood out to me is that it took months of google searching for media players befor ei found it
[03:33] <gartral> !attitude | coleys rudi_
[03:33] <RPG_Master> coleys: what do you use?
[03:33] <coleys> gartral: EAT MY BOX
[03:33] <kleedrac> Seriously though how can I tell Ubuntu to prioritize one version of wine over another?
[03:33] <coleys> RPG_Master: Amarok :)
[03:33] <DougM> ok this may sound really dumb but stick with me.. im at the page to download songbird my question is.. how do i tell if im using Jaunty, Intrepid, or Hardy? haha again stick with me!
[03:33] <gartral> coleys: one more and i call ops in
[03:33] <Saruji> jrib hmm I went to install the others and it showed ubuntu-desktop as not install, so I tried to install it and it read that gtk2-engine-ubuntulooks has to be removed
[03:34] <overclucker> DougM, try installing it from ubuntu repo
[03:34] <coleys> gartral: I could not care lesss.
[03:34] <rudi_> what did i do lol
[03:34] <RPG_Master> I kinda like amarok... but its all QT and stuff...
[03:34] <overclucker> DougM, like from sysnaptic
[03:34] <coleys> RPG_Master: qt > gtk :)
[03:34] <overclucker> aramok is a pain for newbies to setup
[03:34] <RPG_Master> coleys: :P
[03:34] <DougM> overclucker: i searched in Synaptic but it didnt find it
[03:34] <losher> DougM: open a terminal and type:  cat /etc/issue & tell me what it says
[03:34] <DougM> k
[03:35] <RPG_Master> DougM: go to www.getdeb.net and search for Songbird
[03:35] <overclucker> DougM, wow, i never noticed it wasn't in the repo!
[03:35] <DougM> losher: its saying no such file or directory
[03:35] <coleys> RPG_Master: Or... get: http://linuxmint.com (Has... Featured applications which include songbird, skype, etc...) I Don't use it, but definitly recommend it ;)
[03:35] <DougM> RPG_Master: cool ill check it out thanks
[03:35] <thiebaude> overclucker, yep, its never been in synaptic, i wish they would put it in
[03:35] <losher> DougM: you mistyped. Try again: cat /etc/issue
[03:36] <casinaroyale> What groups does it mean with respect to the bug #83137 "pulseaudio not in group pulse-rt"? How to see these groups?
[03:36] <qe2eqe> Is there an easy way to check out what kind of  traffic is going on what ports?
[03:36] <RPG_Master> And then download and install the all (3 I think) deb files
[03:36] <DougM> losher: haha your right.. it says "Ubuntu 9.04 \n \J (or its an L.. cant tell)
[03:37] <losher> DougM: you are running ... drumroll... Jaunty
[03:37] <DougM> losher: haha thanks.. good thing? bad thing? doesnt matter thing?
[03:37] <gartral> i cant get sound out of xmms2.. logs seem too point at playing through alsa, config says OSS... the OSS route should be the working one
[03:37] <stroyan> kleedrac:  Have a look at the update-binfmts command
[03:37] <losher> DougM: doesn't really matter....
[03:37] <DougM> losher: haha k thanks for the help
[03:38] <RPG_Master> DougM: Kinda good, mostly doesn't matter though
[03:38] <overclucker> yeh, haha isn't songbird a java package?
[03:38] <coleys> songbird is crap, straight up.
[03:38] <RPG_Master> NO! its a deb
[03:38] <DougM> RPG_Master: alrighty.. im gonna go to that link and see if i can install Songbird
[03:38] <losher> coleys: we heard you. Go back to sleep...
[03:38] <Saruji> jrib still there?
[03:39] <coleys> losher: You can eat my box too!
[03:39] <RPG_Master> what kinda box is it?
[03:39] <RPG_Master> :P
[03:39] <overclucker> coleys, it has a fairly clean layout, and a large set of extensions
[03:39] <losher> coleys: unlikely, but please keep it civil & g-rated
[03:39] <samtihen> mpd + gmpc ftw
[03:39] <kleedrac> stroyan: Thanks - looking into it now
[03:39] <thetimewarp> Hey, who can I talk to if I have a question about using ubuntu?  I'm kind of a n00b and I can't get flash to work.
[03:39] <coleys> losher: MY box is g-rated get out of the gutter!
[03:40] <coleys> mpd ;) or... amarok...
[03:40] <coleys> or banshee.
[03:40] <bastidrazor> to mount a folder from another ubuntu box on LAN i would?
[03:40] <coleys> is the way to go, songbird is a ram eater.
[03:40] <RPG_Master> I like banshee more then amarok :P
[03:40] <overclucker> never said it wasn't
[03:40] <RPG_Master> but to each his own :)
[03:40] <hyperionx11> thetimewarp, did you install flash-installer from the wizard not the other flash implementations?
[03:41] <coleys> RPG_Master: Exactly the way I feel, im entitled to my oppinion too ;) losher and gartral should respect itttt. :)
[03:41] <overclucker> i have a gig of ram, and will likely never throttle it with songbird
[03:41] <Fezzler> I have a 17.3 MB PDF file.  Can I load it in a Ubuntu program and reduce its size?
[03:41] <thetimewarp> hyperionx:  I installed it with Wine from the flash website
[03:41] <losher> bastid_raZor: ...configure nfs on the client & the server, then nfs mount the folder on the client
[03:41] <coleys> Anyways, im off. *wew*
[03:41] <TwoToneSpirit> I get "connection closed" with vinagre localhost despite everything in vino-preferences looking OK.
[03:42] <hyperionx11> thetimewarp, i dont think you need wine for flash?!? there is native player.... goto system->administration->synaptic... search for flash-installer and install that
[03:43] <RPG_Master> Oh, back to my problem. How do I get VLC to go back to its original settings with out actually using its setting manager?
[03:43] <bastidrazor> losher, i've been mounting it via the GUI via places>connect to server .. i'm looking to mount it automatically on boot.
[03:43] <overclucker> thetimewarp, installing flash in wine will allow you to use flash in wine apps
[03:43] <RPG_Master> Is there a config file I can delete or edit?
[03:43] <Saruji> what is the "make link" option?
[03:43] <Saruji> and how can I use it to link to a particular path?
[03:43] <thetimewarp> hyperionx, okay thanks, let me get on that.. and overclucker, that explains why it wasn't working haha
[03:44] <losher> bastid_raZor: I believe that uses samba, an alternative to nfs. Nothing wrong with that, but someone else will have to advise you
[03:44] <overclucker> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer; sudo /tmp/adobe*
[03:44] <genii> Fezzler: ghostscript has pdfopt  which can crunch a pdf down in size some.
[03:44] <DougM> hey.. will you look at that.  I got songbird installed.  Now i just have to import all my music :(
[03:45] <bastidrazor> losher, yeah, i'm actually looking on how to get around the keyring password every time. i have ssh with no passwd working.
[03:45] <thetimewarp> overclucker, I got this: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[03:45] <thetimewarp> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[03:46] <bastidrazor> losher, actually nfs looks to be exactly what i want. a wee bit of set up and all should be fine.
[03:46] <RPG_Master> DougM:  Easy, go to Edit > Preferences and then select Music management. Then tell it where your music folder is :)
[03:47] <DougM> RPG_Master: cool thanks
[03:47] <losher> bastid_raZor: I think you can do what you want with samba also (though I don't know how). Better performance with nfs is all...
[03:47] <losher> bastid_raZor: let me know if you want help with nfs setup
[03:47] <mataks> how to run windows games in linux aside using cedega?
[03:48] <bastidrazor> losher, i'm actually streaming video from one box to another to be watched on a TV.
[03:48] <DougM> RPG_Master: what if im trying to import a CD?
[03:48] <hyperionx11> mataks, its easier starting a linux lan group and playing linux games over cedega lol
[03:48] <losher> bastid_raZor: I do that over nfs all the time
[03:48] <RPG_Master> DougM: OH! forgot to tell you, in preferences go to media importer then check that box
[03:48] <hyperionx11> mataks, its a POS
[03:49] <RPG_Master> DougM: search Add/Remove for CD Ripper
[03:49] <hyperionx11> where linux is with the game market is fine by me i just dont think its fair that we dont have ventrilo
[03:49] <TheSaintx86> hey can someone help me install drivers to tether my iphone
[03:49] <DougM> RPG_Master alright im gonna do that now
[03:49] <RPG_Master> Its the one with an Icon That looks like a orange
[03:49] <losher> mataks: there's no complete solution to windows gaming on linux. Some people end up dual booting...
[03:49] <TheSaintx86> does anyone in here have a iphone and a eeepc
[03:49] <Saruji> guys what does $PATH mean?
[03:49] <TheSaintx86> i got ubuntu 9.04
[03:49] <bastidrazor> losher, thanks. i'll dig into this howto and see how it goes.
[03:50] <losher> Saruji: it's the list of directories that get searched by default when you type the name of an application
[03:50] <hyperionx11> Saruji, set or export $PATH is like set path "" on dos
[03:50] <RPG_Master> DougM: The Songbird dudes are working on adding CD ripping. Should be done in about a month :)
[03:50] <hyperionx11> Saruji, set or export depending on your shell
[03:50] <mataks> hyperionx11,  cedega is not for free right?
[03:50] <Saruji> hyperionx11: thank you
[03:50] <hyperionx11> mataks, you can probably find a up to date torrent
[03:51] <losher> hyperionx11: some postings claim ventrillo runs under wine..
[03:51] <Saruji> losher thanks
[03:51] <bastidrazor> losher, do i have to do the portmap lockdown?  if someone does by chance get on my network nfs shares are not a worry at all.
[03:51] <bodhizazen> 'lo
[03:51] <DougM> RPG_Master: cool cool.. hey i typed CD Ripper in my add/remove applications and have All Available Applications chosen but its not coming up with anything
[03:51] <bastidrazor> losher, ahh.. optional.. i'm blind :|
[03:52] <bodhizazen> phil__, ?
[03:52] <psywiped> !netsplit
[03:52] <mechtech> hyperionx11: why not use enkigo?
[03:52] <losher> bastidrazor: I don't bother. If someone gets that far into my network, I have worse problems than exposed nfs shares....
[03:52] <hyperionx11> mataks, it would run counter-strike source ok on nvidia but i noted i was cheating (graphical glitches allowing wall hack)
[03:52] <mechtech> er: enkiga
[03:52] <bastidrazor> losher, same here.
[03:52] <thetimewarp> All right, guys, I'm pretty sure that I have flash installed correctly, but the online game I'm trying to play keeps flickering gray stripes.  Any ideas?
[03:53] <RPG_Master> DougM: .... Well then search for Audio CD Extractor.
[03:53] <mataks> hyperionx11, i tried to dowload cedega and i don't know how to use it..  it needs to install every game you want to play.. mine is already installed in my windows patition.. warcraft 3 i just want to copy it to cedega is that possible? like just copying and not installing
[03:53] <hyperionx11> mechtech, ill have to check into enkigo
[03:53] <DougM> RPG_Master: thanks ill give it a try.. im sure ill find it
[03:53] <RPG_Master> If you can't find it then, search for it using Synaptic
[03:53] <mechtech> hyperionx11: came installed on my ubuntu applications list
[03:53] <mechtech> hyperionx11: under internet
[03:54] <hyperionx11> mechtech, oh ekiga
[03:54] <RPG_Master> Funny. I came here looking to fix my VLC and now I am helping a dude get situated with songbird :D
[03:54] <mechtech> hyperionx11: yeah...that's what I meant...sorry
[03:54] <shiftiesb0102> is there a PHP channel?
[03:54] <losher> RPG_Master: nothing wrong with that. Spread it around...
[03:54] <hyperionx11> mechtech, theres another one zoiper communicator that works better on mac and PC
[03:54] <rww> shiftiesb0102: /join ##php
[03:54] <hyperionx11> mechtech, i cant use ekiga anymore because they removed the win32 builds
[03:55] <mechtech> hyperionx11: I want one that's entirely free of cost though
[03:55] <hyperionx11> and im not experienced porting with mingw
[03:55] <shiftiesb0102> what does over flow mean?
[03:55] <shiftiesb0102> when i try to connect to the php channel
[03:55] <hyperionx11> mechtech, zoiper communicator is free... works on my os tiger mac too... ekiga never did
[03:55] <mataks> how to install flash plugin in konqueror?
[03:55] <mechtech> hyperionx11: I'll have to check that out...thanks
[03:56] <DougM> quick issue.. my desktop icons have disappeared.  gconf-editor then apps > nautilus > preferences but show_desktop is checked.  Anyone have a suggestion as to what is going on?
[03:56] <Claxton> O_O wow...
[03:56] <losher> shiftiesb0102: it means you were denied access because ##php is too full....
[03:56] <mechtech> DougM: are you maybe on one of your extra desktops?
[03:56] <RPG_Master> DougM: Its a bug :(  You'll have to reboot to get your icons back
[03:56] <thetimewarp> Do you guys know what to do when flash games flicker gray a lot?
[03:57] <RPG_Master> I've lost my icons about 3 times
[03:57] <RPG_Master> in the past month
[03:57] <losher> DougM: remember asking if 9.04 was good? You just found a 9.04 bug....
[03:57] <hyperionx11> thetimewarp, do you have gnash installed or another flash player.... thats probably doing that
[03:57] <bastidrazor> losher, nfs-server will only need to be on the host box and nfs-common on the client box.
[03:57] <thetimewarp> I have gnash, should I uninstall it?
[03:57] <hyperionx11> thetimewarp, yes
[03:57] <losher> bastid_raZor: correct...
[03:57] <DougM> haha shoot.. ill have to restart once i finish installing Audio CD Extractor.
[03:58] <thetimewarp> hyperion, thanks a lot!  I'll do that now
[03:58] <mechtech> how come guys named smarter never offer help?
[03:58] <frivol> duhhrrr
[03:59] <shiftiesb0102> oh, im trying to see if there is a way to do mysqldump -u user -p'password' -e "SELECT * FROM table" --html
[03:59] <shiftiesb0102> in php
[03:59] <losher> mechtech: because nobody smart names themselves 'smarter'...
[03:59] <mechtech> losher: LOL
[03:59] <mechtech> losher: my thoughts exactly
[03:59] <shiftiesb0102> i wrote a shell script that php calls and it does it, but it just seem like a safe thing to do
[04:00] <shiftiesb0102> actually i use passthru()
[04:01] <Claxton> >.>
[04:01] <Claxton> <.<
[04:02] <bajoel> tes
[04:02] <bajoel> hi
[04:02] <bajoel> hi
[04:02] <bastidrazor> losher, in the howto it shows adding shares for IP's .. but they are on the same subnet. subnet shouldn't matter if static? 192.168.0.x is my host and clients are 192.168.1.x and .3.x
[04:02] <thetimewarp> hyperion, I thought I had gnash installed but it says now that it isn't.  What other flash players are common that I might have installed and would cause the flickering problem?
[04:03] <richardcavell> anyone here use clonezilla?  Can you vouch for its ability to restore a whole disk with multiple partitions?
[04:03] <hyperionx11> thetimewarp, did you restart the firefox process?
[04:03] <mechtech> bastidrazor: I think subnet must be the same, or you would be sharing accross vpn type setup
[04:04] <losher> bastid_raZor: it shouldn't matter. As long as you have connectivity i.e. you can ping, nfs should work...
[04:04] <edbian> thetimewarp: Just search synaptic for "flash"  and you'll see there is adobe flash 10, adobe flash 9, swfdec, and gnash.
[04:04] <rogerio> aguem?
[04:04] <losher> !br | rogerio
[04:04] <edbian> thetimewarp: flashplugin-nonfree and flashplugin-install are actually both the same thing (flash 10)
[04:05] <doug__> Hey.. just restarted but still no icons :(.  If i try to drag an icon down it just starts moving toward the right side of the screen and slowly dissapears
[04:05] <doug__> its weird
[04:05] <thetimewarp> hyperion:  I've restarted firefox a couple of times since then
[04:05] <mechtech> what is the internet TV service you can use vlc with?
[04:05] <thetimewarp> edbian:  I'm pretty sure I have flash already, although that might be the problem.. I'm trying to play a game online and I keep getting a flickering screen
[04:06] <DougM> sorry posted under a different name but Hey.. just restarted but still no icons :(.  If i try to drag an icon down it just starts moving toward the right side of the screen and slowly dissapears
[04:06] <hyperionx11> thetimewarp, does youtube work?
[04:06] <hyperionx11> thetimewarp, if it says flash isnt installed but your game is flickering you dont have the right flash installed
[04:07] <edbian> thetimewarp: It is probably just poor performance.  None of the flash's available work flawlessly (or even well in my opinion).  However if you have more than 1 installed it is difficult to tell which one you're actually using.  I suggest installing only 1 at a time and testing it out.  Use more than one flash site though.  The open source flash players work on youtube but not many other sites.
[04:07] <johnny13> !alternate
[04:07] <thetimewarp> hyperion:  yeah, youtube works
[04:07] <thetimewarp> edbian:  Is there any specific one you'd suggest that you think works the best?
[04:08] <edbian> thetimewarp: I use adobe flash 10 cause it works on every site.
[04:08] <edbian> thetimewarp: My videos often are choppy / get stuck on a certain frame though which is annoying.
[04:08] <overclucker> apt-cache search flash
[04:09] <edbian> thetimewarp: youtube runs well and every video ever is on there so I usually find some video on a site and look it up on youtube instead of watching the embedded one.
[04:09] <Claxton> bugger its too busy in here for me -_-
[04:09] <johnny13> ebian which version of flash player are you using and are you on a 32-bit or 64-bit ubuntu distro?
[04:09] <trppy> hey all
[04:09] <Claxton> Hai
[04:09] <trppy> does anyone run compiz fusion in here?
[04:09] <edbian> johnny13: Adobeflash10  32 bit
[04:09] <edbian> trppy: I do!
[04:09] <hyperionx11> edbian, i have a 1.2ghz pIII and HD videos dont play smooth either
[04:09] <Claxton> okies bye bye
[04:10] <thetimewarp> edbian:  I did a search for flash in synaptic and it says that I have flashplugin-installer installed, is that the right one?
[04:10] <thetimewarp> overclucker;  Thanks, I'll try that out
[04:10] <edbian> hyperionx11: Even with your advanced processor from 4 years ago!?!!?
[04:10] <hyperionx11> thetimewarp, i could suggest a reboot? lulz
[04:10] <overclucker> timewarp, that means verry little, since only the installer is installed
[04:10] <trppy> do you animate ur skydome?
[04:10] <edbian> thetimewarp: That's closed source adobe flash 10  (flashplugin-installer is actually a meta pacakge for "flashplugin-nonfree" )
[04:10] <johnny13> hyperionx11, well, my p4 (using the best available p4 hardware available) too would play 1080p smoothly.  its normal
[04:11] <edbian> trppy: I never have.  Why?
[04:11] <johnny13> hyperionx11, wouldn't*
[04:11] <edbian> overclucker: flashplugin-installer is a misleading name.  It actually installs "flashplugin-nonfree" which is adobe flash 10
[04:12] <TheSaintx86> does anyone tether iphone?
[04:12] <thetimewarp> edbian:  okay, I installed flashplugin-nonfree and it came up with the Changes Applied box.  Is that all I need to do?
[04:12] <edbian> johnny13: hyperionx11:  Why are you using adobe flash to play 1080p videos?  Where do you find a 1080p flash video anyway?
[04:12] <lintin> i have a sweet system i just put together.......
[04:13] <TheSaintx86> does anyone tether ubuntu 9.04 to iphone?
[04:13] <lintin> so I run compiz and its actually very usefull
[04:13] <hyperionx11> edbian, isn't youtube HD videos..?
[04:13] <lintin> will linux use all 8gb of ddr2 ram i put in it?
[04:13] <nnull> vbox website doesnt list a linux host specific to KDE (kubuntu 9.04) will the Ubuntu  9.04 one work?
[04:13] <edbian> hyperionx11: I don't think it's true HD.  Doesn't it actually say "HQ"  as in High Quality ??
[04:14] <johnny13> edbian, i never said I use flash to play 1080p
[04:14] <RPG_Master> I am back :D
[04:14] <edbian> johnny13: Oh!  My bad then! :)
[04:14] <Claxton> I lied ^^ im back!
[04:14] <edbian> nnull: virtualbox will run in KDE
[04:14] <hyperionx11> edbian, im basing my decision off that button, ive though Ive seen HQ and HD
[04:14] <overclucker> is this a 64 bit system, with the 8 gigs ram?
[04:14] <RPG_Master> I am sure no one knew I was gone :D
[04:14] <kindofabuzz> this isn't aol
[04:15] <lintin> no
[04:15] <lintin> not 64 bit
[04:15] <lintin> should i put ubuntu 64bit on?
[04:15] <johnny13> hyperionx11, maybe time for an upgrade?  p3 does the job for normal web surfing but nothing too graphic intensive now adays.  How much ram you got on there?
[04:15] <thetimewarp> So far, the game seems to be working.  :D Thanks for all your help, everyone
[04:15] <RPG_Master> kindofabuzz: :( ....  ;)
[04:16] <edbian> hyperionx11:That is true!  I just found one!  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_oBZcdz-UE&feature=related  supposedly I can "watch in HD"  I wonder if it's true HD.  (as in 1080p)
[04:16] <RPG_Master> nope, 720P
[04:16] <edbian> RPG_Master: You were missed!  Thank you
[04:16] <RPG_Master> REALLY?!  :D
[04:16] <RPG_Master> I feel so loved :)
[04:17] <overclucker> if your processor is 64 bit, and you want t outilize 8 gigs of ram, yeah
[04:17] <lintin> overclucker should i do 64 bit ububuntu?
[04:17] <Mouse> ok guys I have a logitech webcam and when I try to use it the cam is soo blurry that nobody can see anything but my silouette this is what dmesg tells me http://www.pastebin.org/4702
[04:17] <lintin> mine is quad core intel, how do i tell if the cpu is 64 bit?
[04:17] <Steil> lintin: it's 64bit
[04:18] <lintin> k
[04:18] <lintin> kool
[04:18] <Steil> core2 quad?
[04:18] <edbian> lintin: Usually your system has a sticker
[04:18] <overclucker> i like stickers
[04:18] <Swish> all quads are 64 bit.
[04:18] <lintin> i built it part by part
[04:18] <lintin> not giving anythought about 64 bit
[04:19] <lintin> but i go the nvidia 780i mobo
[04:19] <genii> lintin: lshw -C cpu | grep width
[04:19] <Swish> ew, nvidia chipset :)
[04:19] <Swish> gross.
[04:20] <lintin> genii yep
[04:20] <lintin> 64 bit through and through
[04:20] <lintin> thanks for the command help
[04:20] <Mouse> ok guys I have a logitech webcam and when I try to use it the cam is soo blurry that nobody can see anything but my silouette this is what dmesg tells me http://www.pastebin.org/4702
[04:20] <genii> lintin: np
[04:20] <lintin> Swish i dont like ATI
[04:20] <lintin> never have
[04:21] <poseidon> How do you get gnome to look like KDE?
[04:21] <Swish> I don't like ATI either
[04:21] <Mouse> yeah ati is not the good for linux
[04:21] <lintin> thanks overclucker and genii
[04:21] <Mouse> I have an ati onboard card
[04:21] <Swish> Intel Chipsets are just superior, that's all
[04:21] <overclucker> haha
[04:21] <DasEi> poseidon:install kubuntu-desktop
[04:21] <overclucker> and more open
[04:21] <Mouse> but I recently put in a gt6600
[04:21] <Swish> the last time I remember nVidia making a good end-user chipset was... the nForce2?  with soundstorm MCP
[04:21] <lintin> oh
[04:21] <DougM> Hey.. im trying to open my music folder.  I went to places -> music.  when i click it it starts to open i see the tab on my taskbar below and the spinning cursor but after a few seconds it just stops and the tab on the taskbar goes away.   anyone know why this might be happening?
[04:22] <RPG_Master> poseidon: or if you just want the default theme search for the GTK port of Oxygen.
[04:22] <lintin> i have the geforce 9800 512 ram
[04:22] <lintin> and the armor full tower all aluminum case
[04:22] <lintin> its huge
[04:22] <lintin> i love it
[04:22] <overclucker> that's a nice card
[04:22] <overclucker> i almost got one of those
[04:22] <lintin> thanks for all the help and opinions guys
[04:22] <lintin> one luv
[04:23] <RPG_Master> DougM: Seems like thats happened to me...
[04:23] <DougM> RPG_Master: yeah and after restarting my icons havnt come back.. its weird.  I feel like im doing something wrong and everything is just hiding on me :(.
[04:24] <lintin> so do i have to dl the 64 bit iso and re-install?
[04:24] <overclucker> gnomes always steal my icons
[04:24] <RPG_Master> DougM: Dude, I am kinda lost :|  You might want to start a thread on the Ubuntu Forums
[04:24] <lintin> or can i apt update to it?
[04:24] <overclucker> reinstall
[04:24] <shane2peru> what is too hot a processor temp to be running?  85-90C ??
[04:24] <DougM> RPG_Master.. yeah im gonna search around online.. its really weird.
[04:24] <shane2peru> This is a laptop
[04:25] <overclucker> or, install side by side, if oyu have an extra partition
[04:25] <RPG_Master> try using www.uboontu.com
[04:25] <duckwars> I'm having very difficult time with screen.  I have like 6 sockets running but I can't figure out how to get back to them
[04:25] <RPG_Master> it only searches Linux related stuff
[04:25] <Swish> 90C... man that's going to make you sterile :)
[04:25] <Mouse> ok guys I have a logitech webcam and when I try to use it the cam is soo blurry that nobody can see anything but my silouette this is what dmesg tells me http://www.pastebin.org/4702
[04:25] <overclucker> duckwars: screen -ls
[04:25] <rww> duckwars: screen -r
[04:26] <shane2peru> does anyone know anything about laptop operational temps?  and it seems as though mine is overheating
[04:26] <overclucker> and unless you detatched them improperly, screen -r (partial socket identifier)
[04:26] <duckwars> whenever I do the screen -r pid it just says "there is no screen to be resumed matching 28077"
[04:26] <duckwars> even though it is there in the screen -ls
[04:27] <Swish> shane2peru, check to see if your laptop fan has died.  if not, try to blow out dust
[04:27] <overclucker> duckwars, maybe you should name your sockets
[04:27] <overclucker> and to that last comment, try screen -x pid
[04:27] <shane2peru> Swish, fan is working fine, it is practically new, I had a problem with it before Jaunty too, but seemed to have disappeared, and now is back
[04:27] <duckwars> how do I do that? How can I terminate these damned sockets??!?!
[04:28] <Swish> shane2peru, could be loose Heatsink
[04:28] <overclucker> sounds like you didn't detatch properly
[04:28] <shane2peru> Swish, before I added noacpi to the menu.lst and that fixed it, now it doesn't
[04:28] <shane2peru> Swish, soo, not sure what to do, and what is acceptable temp to run a processor.
[04:29] <rww> duckwars: try screen -dr to detach first?
[04:29] <overclucker> screen -x pid should attach it for you
[04:29] <duckwars> screen -x pid seems to put me on that screen, then i ctrl^a k and kills the screen but the socket still exists!!
[04:29] <Swish> shane2peru, 90C probably isn't too hot for the CPU, but it's not good for human beings's laps
[04:29] <Swish> the parts around the CPU will die faster as well
[04:29] <Guest39346> hello, I have a question about which version of ubuntu to install.  I'm currently running the 64-bit version of Jaunty Jackalope on AMD64 architecture; however, I've noticed that when I try to install certain applications, such as Skype and Flash, I receive an error message saying wrong architecture.  Hence, I was considering installing the 32-bit version.  What pros/cons do I get from the 64-bit version over 3
[04:29] <Guest39346> 2-bit?  I primarily use my computer for media playback, word processing, internet, etc.  Nothing too demanding.
[04:30] <shane2peru> Swish, right, now it is "idling" and running at 78C, when I start a process, it really starts cooking
[04:30] <Mouse> ok guys I have a logitech webcam and when I try to use it the cam is soo blurry that nobody can see anything but my silouette this is what dmesg tells me http://www.pastebin.org/4702
[04:31] <askvictor> I've changed an volume in LVM, then going to change another one I get "locking type 1 initialisation failed". Any other lvm commands I try give the same thing. Any ideas?
[04:31] <shane2peru> Swish, hmm, just started a video processing, we hit 95C, fan kicks up to high speed
[04:31] <shane2peru> Swish, oops, just hit 100C
[04:31] <Swish> shane2peru, google that CPU's temps
[04:32] <shane2peru> Swish, will do, was hoping someone was a processor temp wizard. :)
[04:32] <se7en> What is a good easy blogging app/service to use? I need it to blog my 30 day experience with linux
[04:33] <DougM> se7en: id check out wordpress
[04:33] <FloridaGuy> ? any differences between grub and grub2
[04:33] <overclucker> duckwars: C-a \
[04:33] <Saruji> hello, question, I have jaunty running on a dual monitor setup, how can I get the toolbar to stretch across both screens?
[04:33] <duckwars> overlcucker what does that do?
[04:33] <komputes> Mouse: Is there a manual focus ring on the lens of your Logitech webcam?
[04:33] <se7en> sweet thanks...
[04:33] <overclucker> kill all windows in screen session
[04:34] <overclucker> man screen
[04:34] <Mouse> yeah I think I tried that
[04:34] <Mouse> but let me try again
[04:35] <duckwars> overclucker: thanks, what is C-a though, is that ctrl^a?
[04:35] <overclucker> from man screen: C-a C-\     (quit)        Kill all windows and terminate screen.
[04:35] <olimones> pas du son sur ma portable. j
[04:36] <c751nr> Anyone know how to burn a .toast file in Jaunty?
[04:36] <olimones> quelqun peut m aider1
[04:36] <overclucker> C-a C-\     (quit)        Kill all windows and terminate screen.
[04:36] <komputes> olimones: oui mai sur #ubuntu-fr
[04:36] <overclucker> oops
[04:36] <overclucker> he: apt-cache search toast
[04:37] <DougM> RPG_Master: Hey after that restart all my desktop icons are back haha
[04:37] <olimones> oui
[04:37] <vorian> !fr | olimones
[04:38] <vorian> grr, lag
[04:38] <olimones> je ai suivi quelque information que j ai trouve sur internet
[04:38] <olimones> il a marche mai le son est tres bas
[04:38] <komputes> olimones: va sur le chat #ubuntu-fr, ici c'est en anglais
[04:38] <Mouse> ok well now my webcam dosen't show up at all anymore
[04:38] <Mouse> just shows up as a white screen
[04:39] <duckwars> overclucker: I have the man open in another terminal tab, I'm trying to reference it as much as I can, but I don't understand "C-a" is that supposed to be holding down the control key and then hitting a?
[04:39] <olimones> oh im sorry
[04:39] <overclucker> ctrl-a
[04:39] <komputes> olimones: no problem
[04:39] <olimones>  well if anyone cal help
[04:39] <overclucker> once that combo is pressed, release the keys
[04:39] <olimones>  i have a probleme with the sound with my hp laptop
[04:39] <Tophu> what is the channel for 9.10?
[04:40] <duckwars> thank you overclucker
[04:40] <donnybrasco> Hi, can anyone help me with which version of jaunty I should install (64-bit or 32-bit)?
[04:40] <Tophu> !ubottu 9.109
[04:40] <c751nr> So...cdrbq can burn .toast files?
[04:40] <Tophu> !ubottu 9.10
[04:40] <komputes> Mouse: I think amsn offers webcam controls that other apps do not, try unplugging the webcam and plugging it back in (reboot in necessary) and try configuring the webcam settings in amsn
[04:40] <wade> Depends on your processor Tommy
[04:40] <Tophu> nvm it's ubuntu+1 lol
[04:41] <Mouse> komputes, did that and I can't mess with the settings nothing works all I can do is click "low resolution" and it dosen't do anything
[04:41] <Tophu> thanks all
[04:41] <wade> What processor do yo have?
[04:41] <wade> Sorry I meant Donny
[04:41] <donnybrasco> AMD64
[04:41] <donnybrasco> I have 64-bit version installed
[04:42] <deco> how do i setup ubuntu to use alsa ?
[04:42] <wade> I recommend the 64bit version I should perform better.
[04:42] <komputes> deco: system > preferences > sound
[04:42] <donnybrasco> I have been using 64-bit for awhile now, but when I try to install Skype or Flash, I get an error saying wrong architecture
[04:43] <deco> komputes: oh so easy :P thanks!
[04:43] <Tophu> anyone have success getting the touchscreen on an ho touchsmart tx2 working with 9.04?
[04:43] <duckwars> I'm trying to do the command "C-a C-\" by pressing control+a and then pressing control+\ but nothing happens =(
[04:43] <wade> use nonfree-flash from the repository
[04:43] <wade> and for the skype I will check into that hold on.
[04:44] <donnybrasco> thanks, I'll try that
[04:44] <komputes> donnybrasco: skype i would expect, but flash released 64-bit, what version of ubuntu do you run?
[04:44] <overclucker> yeah, it is a little misleading, just do C-a \
[04:44] <donnybrasco> jaunty 64-bit
[04:44] <Mouse> komputes, did that and I can't mess with the settings nothing works all I can do is click "low resolution" and it dosen't do anything
[04:44] <treble> treble
[04:44] <komputes> Mouse: got you the first time, i'm not sure
[04:45] <wade> do you have the medibuntu repositories added to synaptic
[04:45] <duckwars> overclucker: AHA! Thank you!!!!!!
[04:45] <donnybrasco> let me check
[04:45] <Mouse> komputes, thanks anyways
[04:45] <komputes> Mouse: good luck
[04:46] <donnybrasco> I don't think so
[04:46] <mechtech> vlc won't show shoutcast playlist...what to do?
[04:47] <Khisanth> at least for skype, there is a script on the ubutu forum that will install the necessary libs and stuff
[04:47] <poseidon> anybody know of anything else like this -> http://francois.vogelweith.com/?lang=en
[04:48] <wade> here copy this into the terminal "sudo wget http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/`lsb_release -cs`.list --output-document=/etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list; sudo apt-get -q update; sudo apt-get --yes -q --allow-unauthenticated install medibuntu-keyring; sudo apt-get -q update"
[04:48] <donnybrasco> thanks
[04:49] <wade> then open synaptic and search for skype
[04:49] <overclucker> posiedon: http://gnome-look.org
[04:50] <Tophu> anyone here have touchscreen support working in 9.04?
[04:50] <donnybrasco> looks like it's working - thanks very much!!
[04:50] <wade> Did you install skype yet?
[04:51] <duckwars> is there anyway to start screen without making a new socket? I want to start screen and join an existing socket...
[04:51] <Saruji> hi, install simcity3000 now getting error: relocation error: sc3u: symbol _dl_global_scope, version GLIBC_2.0 not defined in file ld-linux.so.2 with link time reference
[04:52] <overclucker> screen -R
[04:52] <Saruji> what does that mean?
[04:52] <overclucker> should attempt to join with an existing socket, and if none exists, creates its own
[04:53] <duckwars> thanks again overcluck i really I am having the most difficult time with screen... most difficult part of linux so far
[04:53] <kaiser10123> how do i mess with setting to get more resolutions
[04:53] <kaiser10123> im usinf 800x600 now:(
[04:54] <gary_> hello how can i cause the ubuntu desktop to automatically clean up icons?
[04:54] <chris-dowle> what is the key binding for switching between two desktops
[04:54] <pog> *why* LANG=C evolution --component=mail --debug=/home/pogay/evo.log - doesn't work in gnome starter (Lang=C no such directory, LOL)
[04:54] <pog> why (faild to execute child process Lang
[04:54] <Guest31663> hello how can i cause the ubuntu desktop to automatically clean up icons?
[04:55] <wade> kaiser: have you gone through system>preferences>display?
[04:55] <kaiser10123> yes
[04:55] <dayo> duckwars: have a look at this article on screen+irssi http://quadpoint.org/articles/irssi
[04:55] <kaiser10123> wade: i have old video card a savage
[04:55] <duckwars> thank you very much dayo
[04:56] <wade> then you will need to edit xorg.conf that is if the video card support the resolution you want.
[04:56] <kaiser10123> wade: but 800x600 on a 42 inch tv sucks
[04:56] <duckwars> ugh, now one my screens is going crazy.....
[04:56] <overclucker> screen is really one of the most useful features of gnu/linux
[04:56] <pog> *why(2)* LANG=C evolution --component=mail --debug=/home/pogay/evo.log  - doesn't work in Alt-PF2
[04:56] <mechtech> kaiser10123: do yourself a favor and get a new video card
[04:57] <dayo> duckwars: u're welcome
[04:57] <kaiser10123> wade: what resolution u think i should try
[04:57] <mechtech> kaiser10123: take advantage of that LCD flatpanle you have...it'd be sweet
[04:57] <johnny5_> Anyone know why hulu doesn't work on ubuntu I'm pretty sure I have flash installed
[04:58] <duckwars> johnny5_: I dunno, my friend was having trouble with that with yellow dog linux
[04:58] <kaiser10123> mechtech: i want to where can i get a pci not pci express
[04:58] <wade> that depends on your video card. if you will tell me what it is I may be able to find some info for you.
[04:58] <johnny5_> duckwars: Well I guess that doesn't help lol but thanks ;-)
[04:58] <mechtech> kaiser10123: you sure you don't mean agp?
[04:58] <kaiser10123> nope pci
[04:58] <kaiser10123> its old
[04:59] <kaiser10123> i build computers im sure its a pci
[04:59] <donnybrasco> wade: I'm downloading skype now, but it says it's i_386 - will that matter?
[04:59] <mechtech> kaiser10123: no agp slot??  you should seriously think about building anew system...it's a brand new world out there.
[04:59] <overclucker> what flash plugin are you using johny>
[04:59] <jonex> what is the app that work like Autocad
[04:59] <duckwars> johnny5_: Well I just had to respond to the only living robot I've ever known =)
[04:59] <hyperionx11> kaiser10123, i have a ultrasavage in my thinkpad it rocks i can play ezquake
[04:59] <johnny5_> adobe?
[05:00] <syntax_> is gimp better then photoshop?
[05:00] <overclucker> you use firefox?
[05:00] <wade> as long as you get from synaptic I does not matter. the dependancies will be resolved.
[05:00] <duckwars> is mcdonald's beter than burger king?
[05:00] <kaiser10123> mechtech: i know this computer was just some old computer noone wanted and dont wanna shell out money for another one
[05:00] <johnny5_> syntax no and yes... photoshop has more plug ins to make quick cool stuff
[05:00] <overclucker> and gimp has lisp!
[05:00] <johnny5_> but gimp and photoshop both have the same capabilities if your patient
[05:00] <pog> I also like to have a squence in gnome starter-menu - |killall firefox; firefox -p default --restart > /dev/null 2>&1& |
[05:01] <donnybrasco> I don't see skype in synaptic, just skytools - same thing?
[05:01] <pog> why nothing is executed? All commands work on the commandline.
[05:01] <syntax_> jonny so you can do all the blending, etc and text editing ?
[05:01] <johnny5_> duckwars: depends on whether you like flame broiled or fried
[05:01] <kaiser10123> wade: how do i check the specific card i have
[05:01] <donnybrasco> the file I was downloading was off the site
[05:02] <legend2440> hello i am trying to retrieve pictures off digital camera to jaunty with gnome for first time. do i install gtkam or is there some other package i should use?
[05:02] <overclucker> pog: echo "killall firefox; firefox -p default --restart > /dev/null 2>&1&" > badfox.sh
[05:02] <pog> donnybrasco: I guess you have to download the ubuntu-sources from skype
[05:02] <wade> donnybrasco: no not the same click on the magnifing glass in synaptic and search for skype. It is supposed to be in the medibuntu repo.
[05:02] <johnny5_> sorry overclucker I lost you there, yes I'm using firefox
[05:03] <overclucker> in urlbar, type about:plugins
[05:03] <duckwars> is there anyway to force kill all of screen.... one of my sockets is just apecrap and I can't figure out what to do
[05:03] <wade> kaiser10123: hold on while I find out.
[05:03] <donnybrasco> not coming up
[05:03] <overclucker> could try killall screen
[05:04] <qpmm> I'm trying to capture what I hear under Ubuntu 9.04 (akin to DirectSound on Windows) -- what device should I be capturing? /dev/audio and /dev/dsp don't seem to work
[05:04] <mechtech> kaiser10123:  here you go...perfect for you: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4226576&CatId=319
[05:04] <lilsnoop> im using 9.04....should i download cups driver for printer or lpr driver----or both?
[05:05] <mechtech> kaiser10123: that ought to make that TV of yours come to life
[05:05] <johnny5_> application/x-shockwave-flash Shockwave Flash swf Yes
[05:05] <mechtech> lilsnoop: I'm using cups with great success
[05:06] <johnny5_> I also have futureSplash whatever that is.
[05:06] <kaiser10123> mechtech: didnt know pci cards over 256mb
[05:06] <overclucker> ok, so you have flash recognized by firefox
[05:07] <SBG001> yep
[05:07] <SBG001> uh huh
[05:07] <johnny5_> And a bunch of others from some sort of totum that says it runs flash videos too
[05:07] <xFlux> uh huh
[05:07]  * johnny5_ kicks hulu
[05:07] <johnny5_> I mean.. umm
[05:07] <overclucker> heh
[05:07] <mechtech> kaiser10123: system>administration>hardware drivers...yeah...that's a great card...PNY is a reputable manufacturer, and geforce8400 with 512BM ought to scream aven with your PCI bottleneck
[05:07]  * johnny5_ runs hulu over
[05:08] <overclucker> have you tried any other flash enabled sites?
[05:08] <johnny5_> My site works
[05:08]  * ouroboros hates flash ... especially on old machines
[05:08] <mechtech> kaiser10123: plus it has HD output for your TV
[05:08] <wade> donnybrasco: this should do it for you "http://packages.medibuntu.org/pool/non-free/s/skype/skype_2.0.0.72-0medibuntu4_amd64.deb"
[05:08] <johnny5_> I'm guessing it's something to do with the 2 layers they use and the whole overlay they are using... just wish I knew what it was called...
[05:08] <donnybrasco> awesome, thanks alot wade ... let me try that
[05:09] <wade> let me know
[05:09] <johnny5_> I can run it in my windows 98 vmware lol
[05:09] <overclucker> cheater
[05:09] <johnny5_> Yeah I really want it working right
[05:10] <donnybrasco> nope ... "bash: http://packages.medibuntu.org/pool/non-free/s/skype/skype_2.0.0.72-0medibuntu4_amd64.deb: No such file or directory
[05:10] <donnybrasco> "
[05:10] <qpmm> looking for the correct way to capture audio in 9.04 -- any input welcome
[05:10] <mechtech> kaiser10123: daydreaming now?  LOL
[05:10] <mechtech> qpmm: vlc?
[05:10] <BABER> hi
[05:10] <qpmm> qpmm: yes
[05:11] <qpmm> qpmm: just trying to capture what I hear
[05:11] <johnny5_> mechtech: You play battle tech? We just started a league around here.. heh (old mini game)
[05:11] <kaiser10123> mechtech: no trying to be cheap
[05:11] <BABER> how can upgrade a program example : pidgin ?
[05:11] <mechtech> johnny5: never played before
[05:11] <realleo> nickname
[05:11] <FLJohn> Is there a Channel for building Databases?
[05:11] <kaiser10123> im happy with a 126 or 256mb card
[05:11] <qpmm> mechtech: sorry, I was typing my own name
[05:11] <qpmm> mechtech: yes
[05:11] <mechtech> kaiser10123: $60 and your TV will blow you out the window!
[05:12] <Evelina> Why isn't wakeonlan working if I wait 20 minutes when it works after 5 minutes?
[05:12] <qpmm> mechtech: I'm trying to capture just like DirectSound does on Windows
[05:12] <johnny5_> Well it's a fun game... Get to blow each others mechs up.
[05:12] <overclucker> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[05:12] <mechtech> kaiser10123: ok...well tiger had a lot of cards, the first one in the list was $20
[05:12] <johnny5_> overclucker is that to me?
[05:13] <kaiser10123> mechtech: but wil be pissed if i spend 60 then months later get new computer i cant use that card for
[05:13] <mechtech> qpmm: brb...gotta put my daughter's mattress back on her bed...it's nighty-night time around here
[05:13] <qpmm> mechtech: alright
[05:13] <johnny5_> lol my daughter is sick not feeling good and layed down with mommy...
[05:14] <mechtech> kaiser10123: I hear you...I couldn't get a new card right now if they were giving them away accross the street...well, matbe then, but otherwise?
[05:14] <madLyfe> installing desktop version right now!
[05:14] <wade> kaiser10123: follow the instructions on this link and you can find out the info.
[05:14] <wade> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-tell-which-graphics-vga-card-installed/
[05:14] <legend2440> hello i am trying to retrieve pictures off digital camera to jaunty with gnome via usb for first time. do i install gtkam or is there some other package i should use?
[05:14] <BABER> how can update a program?
[05:14] <johnny5_> alright well since I can't get the stupid hulu to work anyone know the apache sudo?
[05:14] <wade> how did you install the program baber
[05:15] <BABER> wade: i want update pidgin
[05:15] <wade> johnny5_:for hulu did you disable adblock plus?
[05:16] <johnny5_> didn't know I had to... is it in firefox preferances?
[05:16] <donnybrasco> wade: didn't work "bash: http://packages.medibuntu.org/pool/non-free/s/skype/skype_2.0.0.72-0medibuntu4_amd64.deb: No such file or directory"
[05:17] <wade> baber:ubuntu updates keep up with that. If you want the latest greatest you just need to find the deb and install it.
[05:17] <johnny5_> I guess I should say add-ons
[05:17] <madLyfe> does ubuntu use kde?
[05:17] <wade> donnybrasco: did you just click on the link or copy to the terminal.
[05:18] <pog> overclucker: o.k. thanks, I put "badfox" in a script now  and starting this worked. (I's strange anyway that there Alt-F2 and Gnome-Starters have these restrictions...)
[05:18] <donnybrasco> copied to terminal
[05:18] <wade> madLyfe: you would want kubuntu if you want KDE otherwise you get Gnome
[05:19] <wade> donnybrasco: just click the link.
[05:19] <donnybrasco> sorry wade: copied to firefox ... working now
[05:19] <madLyfe> kkk, i think i want gnome.. i dunno its been forever since ive tried linux.. maybe first fedora rls was last time..
[05:19] <johnny5_> Thanks a lot wade ;-)
[05:19] <wade> Gnome is the most stable for now.
[05:19] <johnny5_> Works now! didn't know I had to disable the adblocker.
[05:20] <wade> no prob I use Hulu too.
[05:20] <mechtech> ok...
[05:20] <qpmm> mechtech: still here ;)
[05:20] <maxagaz> how to solve the problem of firefox unable to log in any account (gmail or whatever) or unable to use the searchar ?
[05:21] <johnny5_> wade: I don't even have cable anymore, I have a s-video and sound wire right from my computer now lol
[05:21] <wade> LOL
[05:21] <iluvatar321> hola
[05:21] <iluvatar321> hi
[05:21] <mechtech> qpmm: right here
[05:21] <wade> keep that quite I work for a local cable co as tech support
[05:21] <johnny5_> umm and into my tv if you didn't catch the rest of that ...
[05:22] <iluvatar321> como puedo repara un archivo rar dañado en ubuntu?
[05:22] <ctmjr> !es| iluvatar321
[05:22] <iluvatar321> ok thank
[05:23] <ctmjr> iluvatar321 your welcome
[05:23] <mechtech> qpmm: what were we talking about?
[05:23] <qpmm> mechtech: I'm trying to capture audio (with VLC) as would be done through DirectSound on Windows
[05:24] <mechtech> qpmm: not familiar with directsound...I use MagixMusicStudio7 on win
[05:24] <johnny5_> BTW: I have built a computer and installed ubuntu on it for a standard home with no su and have been helping and monitoring their progress, and I have to tell you they enjoy ubuntu very much so, in case anyone here helped in a smidget of code for it or any of the free apps thanks ;-)
[05:24] <qpmm> mechtech: more or less just need to capture what I hear
[05:24] <madLyfe> how do i get ubuntu to see my wireless ssid so i can connect to it?
[05:24] <mechtech> qpmm: vlc should work quite well
[05:25] <qpmm> mechtech: I'm apparently trying to capture from the wrong device though -- /dev/audio, /dev/snd, and /dev/dsp do not want to work
[05:25] <wade> madLyfe: are you able to see any wireless networks?
[05:25] <madLyfe> nope
[05:25] <novalys> Could someone give me a hand installing a second monitor on this Sony VAIO Laptop? I'm using Ubuntu 9.04, but the laptop completely freezes when I plug the VGA cable of the external monitor..
[05:25] <qe2eqe> madLyfe, iwlist scanning?
[05:26] <wade> You may have to install the driver/module for the wireless card.
[05:26] <wade> What brand do you have
[05:26] <agent_j> i'm using Anjuta but for some reason there isn't a sidebar which has all my variables listed. it's really hard without this shortcut. isn't there meant to be a sidebar, if not, how do i add it?
[05:26] <madLyfe> hmm its prolly an intel onboard
[05:26] <madLyfe> i mean its onboard
[05:26] <mechtech> qpmm: ahh...go to system>preferences>sound...under audio conferencing there should be "sound Capture"
[05:26] <qpmm> mechtech: perhaps my problem is not those devices at all -- is video4linux something that comes stock with ubuntu or vlc?
[05:26] <madLyfe> old hp laptop..
[05:26] <madLyfe> hp pavillion
[05:26] <wade> that should work "out of the box".
[05:26] <mechtech> qpmm: don't know
[05:26] <qpmm> mechtech: checking
[05:27] <mechtech> qpmm: see my post?
[05:27] <qpmm> mechtech: that's exactly what I'm looking for right there -- except I need to do it from command line, so I need one of those device names (e.g. alsa)
[05:28] <jms1989_> I went to http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/www.twit.tv and they are claiming its up but I am unable to reach it. Can anyone here access twit.tv? If so, do you mind posting your dns server ip so I can access it?
[05:28] <mechtech> qpmm: why command line?
[05:28] <madLyfe> Broadcom 802.11b/g Wireless LAN
[05:28] <novalys> Could someone give me a hand installing a second monitor on this Sony VAIO Laptop? I'm using Ubuntu 9.04, but the laptop completely freezes when I plug the VGA cable of the external monitor..
[05:28] <wade> if you right click on the network icon do you have a checkbox for wireless?
[05:28] <hari_> hi
[05:28] <madLyfe> yep
[05:28] <DougM> hari_ whats good
[05:28] <qpmm> mechtech: when you go to streaming in VLC, you're prompted for a V4L device name
[05:28] <madLyfe> its enabled
[05:28] <ctmjr> qpmm: it comes with ubuntu the drivers anyway for most tv cards the firmware is another story
[05:29] <hari_> had some good wine
[05:29] <wade> then it is installed hmmmmm
[05:29] <Cyber_Akuma> Is there an alternative/better version of flash than the one Firefox installs when you visit a page with flash?
[05:29] <mechtech> qpmm: in vlc, go to media>open capture device...enter it there
[05:29] <wade> have you checked the wireless/Wifi switch on the laptop?
[05:30] <hari_> i had a tough day in linux today
[05:30] <glicks> excuse me what packages do i need to install to get compiz working?
[05:30] <ozatomic> when i'm using cifs to mount a windows share is there any way to check weather the file is still in usage by the actual windows machine?
[05:30] <Alex_K> glicks: Ubuntu comes with compiz, to configure it you need compiz-settings-manager
[05:30] <glicks> ah ok
[05:30] <madLyfe> wade: just noticed its not lighting up when i press it to turn it on..
[05:30] <glicks> thanks Alex_K
[05:31] <Alex_K> glicks: I'm 90% sure that's the right name for it... if it's not tell me... I'm not in ubuntu right this second lol
[05:31] <donnybrasco> wade: Error: Breaks exisiting package 'skype' conflict: skype ( )
[05:31] <wade> madlyfe: that's ok with some that happens
[05:31] <mechtech> glicks: compiz, compizconfig settings manager, and simple compizconfig settings manager
[05:31] <Alex_K> glicks: Yeah, what mechtech said, compizconfig-settings-manager
[05:31] <madLyfe> but its not doing anything no matter what position its in..
[05:31] <wade> madLyfe: have you tried restarting your laptop?
[05:32] <madLyfe> fresh install.. ill try that right now..
[05:32] <madLyfe> first time boot up
[05:32] <donnybrasco> wade: could that error be due to the skytools package being installed?
[05:32] <hari_> tell me some cool apps to install
[05:32] <ctmjr> glicks: and do not forget fusion-icon it will make your life a lot easier
[05:32] <wade> maybe try uninstalling them.
[05:32] <Alex_K> ctmjr: compiz-switch is way better
[05:33] <mechtech> anyone know how I get vlc to show the shoutcast TV listings??
[05:33] <wade> try "sudo apt-get install skype" in the terminal.
[05:34] <mechtech> qpmm: how we doing?
[05:34] <se7en> does everyone in here run ubuntu or different distros that are ubuntu based?
[05:34] <madLyfe> still nothing ware
[05:34] <madLyfe> wade
[05:34] <ctmjr> Alex_K: never tried it might have to now
[05:35] <mechtech> se7en: Ubuntu 9.04 Jaunty Jackalope here
[05:35] <qpmm> mechtech: I'm just working with this VLC log -- I still believe I must be trying to capture audio from the wrong device name
[05:35] <Alex_K> ctmjr: It's not in repositorys anymore =( You'll have to google it
[05:35] <mechtech> qpmm: did you go to media>open capture device?
[05:35] <ctmjr> Alex_K: ok thanks
[05:35] <WholeGrains> se7en: Test Ubuntu 9.10 here, what are you running? Need some help?
[05:36] <qpmm> mechtech: that's precisely where I'm talking about
[05:36] <qpmm> mechtech: "Audio device name"
[05:36] <se7en> i am going to switch to linux for 30 days. I am calling it The 30 Day Challenge.. Going from Windows to Linux. For personal and business...
[05:36] <donnybrasco> wade: skype is working now :)
[05:36] <mechtech> qpmm: you cannot add the name you gleaned from "sound preferences"?
[05:37] <donnybrasco> thanks very much for your help
[05:37] <wade> madlyfe: try following the directions here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1071920&mode=linear
[05:37] <mechtech> se7en: cool...good luck...we'll be rooting for you
[05:37] <mechtech> se7en: cool...good luck...we'll be rooting for you
[05:37] <Alex_K> se7en: Good luck, but unfortunatly IMO the only real option is dual booting
[05:37] <se7en> I am a windows admin by day...
[05:37] <wade> no prob donny
[05:37] <pog> i like to debug evolution, because I lose messages (may be filters do something wrong).  --debug=/file  doesn't show much output...
[05:37] <se7en> so going to use wine & citrix when i need too...
[05:37] <mechtech> se7en: I'm sorry
[05:38] <Alex_K> lol @ mechtech
[05:38] <se7en> yeah it pays the bills...
[05:38] <qpmm> mechtech: unless I'm crazy, there's no device locations listed under sound preferences -- only titles
[05:39] <ozatomic> is there a way to check if a windows share i have mounted if any of the files are in use?
[05:39] <mechtech> qpmm: seems you need only the NAME of the device, not it's location
[05:39] <mechtech> ozatomic: try to open one
[05:40] <se7en> the distros i am looking at is jaunty and linux mint 7.... This is going on my netbook and work laptop... can't really destroy the workstation yet...
[05:40] <evilGUI> Anyone know why Ubuntu somtimes restarts when selecting it from grub? it says booting from HDD ID HERE then starting up.
[05:40] <pog> se7en: I work with linux now, and apart from minor isssues I'm happy
[05:40] <madLyfe> wade: i dont have the drivers for it..
[05:40] <pog> se7en: I saw linux mint, rather nice
[05:40] <madLyfe> is there a way to see if they are on the internet somewhere?
[05:41] <WholeGrains> se7en: I've seen a lot of threads on ubuntuforums.org pertaining to wireless problems with Jaunty.
[05:41] <mechtech> se7en: used many different distros, and jaunty is one of the best I've seen...couple minor issues for me, but that was all
[05:41] <nanotube> WholeGrains: that's why you try it with a livecd first, to make sure stuff works :)
[05:41] <Alex_K> se7en: From everything I've heard most people have the fewest problems with the LTS version
[05:41] <pog> i work with 8.04 an I'm content
[05:41] <mechtech> se7en: see nanotube's post to wholegrains
[05:41] <WholeGrains> nanotube: Yes, mine is within arms reach.
[05:42] <mechtech> se7en: also, what are your system resources?
[05:42] <nanotube> dang... just installed jaunty in vbox, now got to install 170+ updates....
[05:42] <se7en> yeah jaunty is bare bones and LM7 has everything already included (codecs and such...) i have both on a jump drive..
[05:43] <tbaxter> Can someone point me in the direction of a good guide to upgrading my kernel to 2.6.30 under Jaunty?
[05:43] <se7en> 1 systems is a MSI Wind and the other is a HP 6910
[05:43] <mechtech> se7en: processor? RAM?
[05:43] <se7en> atom 1.6 on the netbook 2g
[05:44] <se7en> hp is 2ghz dual core 2 with 2gb
[05:44] <nanotube> !kernel | tbaxter
[05:44] <mechtech> se7en: virtualbox might work well for you, then...for running win on linux
[05:44] <mechtech> qpmm: how we doing?
[05:45] <Gartral> OK, i have a serious networking issue, how do i make ethernet connect with console commands
[05:45] <nanotube> Gartral: use ifconfig
[05:45] <qpmm> mechtech: still working on it, I'll keep you updated
[05:46] <ozatomic> mechtech: i tried copying it and it was fine but i know the file is still being generated on the other computer
[05:46] <Bob_Dole> SO uh, I'm SSH'd into a box I have setup as a kiosk machine. I want it to run Folding@Home...I have origami installed, but I don't know how to make it just run at startup
[05:46] <mechtech> Gartral: see man interfaces
[05:46] <se7en> yeah... for windows apps that i can't get to work through wine, i have access to my citrix farm. Most of the personal stuff i do at home i am sure i can find a suitable app...
[05:46] <tbaxter> thanks nanotube.
[05:46] <nanotube> tbaxter: np :)
[05:46] <nanotube> is it just me, or does everyone's virtualbox eat cpu whenever the guest os is doing something halfway cpu-intensive?
[05:46] <pog> se7en: if you have "these" virtualisations  processorflags kvm is very nice. A Friend of mine runs 2003-Server on Linux.
[05:47] <ProfOak> What's the terminal command for removing folders? rm and an option perhaps?
[05:47] <mechtech> ozatomic: and you want to be able to view the progress from your linux machine>
[05:47] <mechtech> ?
[05:47] <hyperionx11> Gartral, dhclient eth0 for dhcp really eazy
[05:47] <nanotube> ProfOak: to remove empty dir: "rmdir"
[05:47] <nanotube> ProfOak: to remove non-empty dir, "rm -r"
[05:47] <ProfOak> nanotube: Thanks!
[05:47] <nanotube> ProfOak: np :)
[05:48] <se7en> i have vbox running on my mac at the moment
[05:48] <madLyfe> is there anyway there is like an auto update thing that will find the firmware for things?
[05:48] <madLyfe> whoops
[05:48] <pog> probable you can port the vbox to a linux from mac.
[05:48] <mechtech> se7en: I was running it here, but I just don't have the system resources for it
[05:48] <nanotube> pog: vbox already has a version for linux, no need to port stuff :)
[05:49] <stryker> sss-ghost: yo u there?
[05:49] <joey_> can anybody help me?
[05:49] <ozatomic> mechtech: no, i have a PVR on the windows machine dumping the video/audio to a mpg file. And i want to be able to pool the directory with a script that checks to see if windows has finished writing to the file. And then if it has i want the script to do its stuff
[05:49] <joey_> I'm trying to get an esata thumbdrive working with xubuntu
[05:49] <mechtech> !ask | joey
[05:50] <ozatomic> poll :S
[05:50] <mechtech> ozatomic: over my head...good luck
[05:50] <ozatomic> lol
[05:51] <stryker> [SSS]GhOsT: hey bro
[05:51] <joey_> okay, thanks for hte advice. I have an iocrest esata express card, and an ocz throttle esata thumbdrive. The first time I plugged it in, xubuntu gave some odd message about HAL. Now, lspci detects the card, but I can't figure out how to access the drive when it's plugged in. It works by usb, but with esata I can't find it in blkid or fdisk -l
[05:51] <se7en> I am going to keep a journal about my experience and blog it online somewhere... haven't found a site yet
[05:51] <[SSS]GhOsT> heys
[05:51] <stryker> cool, now i added you to the online list, let me verify
[05:51] <JRSmile> Any one tested xbmc as ubuntu media center? I wonder why it is so unstable on a netbook
[05:51] <nanotube> ozatomic: easiest thing to do is to check if the file hasn't been modified in say, a minute - then you know it's complete. ?
[05:52] <outy> my cube only has two sides, how do i make it have six ?
[05:52] <outy> four
[05:52] <pog> se7en: I can give you access to my wiki:-)
[05:53] <Peddy> how do I make a script run every time the computer resumes from suspend? There are some tutorials on ubuntuforums, but they're all for the older, deprecated acpi way of suspending (not pm).
[05:53] <Peddy> !boot
[05:54] <ozatomic> nanotube: yeah that was the next thing i was going to do, if file has not grown in a min or changed in a min
[05:54] <Peddy> is there still a netsplit?
[05:54] <nanotube> Peddy: scripts that run on resume live in /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/
[05:54] <pog> i'm really wondering how I can actiate a few more messages in evolution, so I can check, what happens when it filters....
[05:54] <nanotube> Peddy: look at a couple that are in there to see how they figure out if computer is going into sleep, or resuming from it, etc.
[05:54] <mechtech> outy: compizconfig settings manager>general options>desktop size> horizontal virtual size=4, or 6 or whatever
[05:55] <Peddy> thanks nanotube, I was looking in /etc/pm/sleep.d/, which was empty.
[05:55] <se7en> send me the link. I want to check it out.
[05:55] <nanotube> ozatomic: well, other than that - you can have the windows host write a zero-length file named something like "file1.mpg is complete", after it finishes writing the mpg. that way, once the empty file appears, you know it's done.
[05:56] <nanotube> Peddy: np :)
[05:56] <seraf> Hey
[05:56] <joey_> can anyone help me? I have an iocrest esata express card, and an ocz throttle esata thumbdrive. The first time I plugged it in, xubuntu gave some odd message about HAL. Now, lspci detects the card, but I can't figure out how to access the drive when it's plugged in. It works by usb, but with esata I can't find it in blkid or fdisk -l
[05:57] <nanotube> seraf: howdy
[05:57] <seraf> I still have gaim when I go to a yahoo chat room no one can see my text how can i get it to work?
[05:57] <seraf> Hey nanotube
[05:57] <nanotube> seraf: ehrm... gaim? or pidgin?
[05:57] <seraf> gaim
[05:58] <seraf> yeah I am using an old version of ubuntu
[05:58] <ozatomic> nanotube: i'll have to use filesize changed because i jsut tried to use find -mmin and it doesn't update the mondified time if it is still using it becasue it never closes the file
[05:58] <nanotube> seraf: well... maybe it stopped working because it's too old a version...
[05:58] <nanotube> ozatomic: hrm...
[05:58] <ozatomic> i'll jsut have to use bash script to compare sizes after x min
[05:58] <stryker> I have tried to play music in Amarok, they don't play, i tried in aTunes, they don't play, the only thing that plays my music is Rhythmbox, please help!
[05:58] <nanotube> ozatomic: seems like writing the empty file on completion is a "cleaner" solution?
[05:59] <ozatomic> but i wont know when tis complete
[05:59] <mechtech> stryker: I'm all about vlc
[05:59] <ozatomic> its all programed withing the closed source pvr
[05:59] <nanotube> ozatomic: that way, you don't get fooled if the connection dies in the middle of transfer, and filesize stops changing.
[05:59] <ctmjr> outy: compiz-settings-manager general options change the horizontal virtual size to 4 0r how ever many you want
[05:59] <stryker> mechtech: vlc, i have it
[05:59] <nanotube> ozatomic: ah, so you can't change the pvr to write the empty file, ic... in that case... yea, check filesize :)
[05:59] <ozatomic> hehe
[06:00] <mechtech> stryker: remove the others and set your preferred app for music to vlc
[06:00] <ozatomic> and its a locl network so it shouldnot timeout
[06:00] <nanotube> ozatomic: ok ic
[06:00] <nanotube> mechtech: no reason to remove others... can set vlc to default anyway.
[06:00] <fireshroom_> I am having problems getting ATI Drivers working on a laptop x1400, i know i can use ATI Patch for Jaunty, how can i install a open source driver? or update them
[06:00] <stryker> mechtech: can i creat playlists with it?
[06:00] <nanotube> stryker: also check audacious
[06:00] <mechtech> stryker: sure
[06:00] <vimpulse> hi all.  I was using my terminal emulator, and meant to press Ctrl-PgUp, but pressed the adjacent combo on my laptop:  the Ctrl-\ combo.  Because of the way the OS is designed, that combo sent SIGABRT, immediately terminating the program I was using.  Is this not a dangerous key combo, just like Ctrl-Alt-Backspace used to be?  (P.S.  I'm the guy who finally convinced the Xorg developers to disable Ctrl-Alt-Backspace 
[06:00] <vimpulse> releases.)
[06:00] <nanotube> stryker: audacious is very winamp-like
[06:01] <stryker> how can i set vlc as default
[06:01] <mechtech> mamotube: the reason I removed the others was they were useless and taking up space in my apps list and hard drive
[06:01] <fireshroom_> Whats the apt get and command to install OPEN Source ATI DRIVER
[06:02] <mechtech> er: nanotube...see above post to mamotube...LOL
[06:02] <losher> vimpulse: apparently you're accident prone and shouldn't be let loose on a computer. Disabling Ctrl-Alt-Backspace by default was a complete nuisance...
[06:02] <seraf> lol
[06:02] <Gartral> OK! dhclient did exactly what i needed!
[06:02] <nanotube> vimpulse: why not disable the dangerous key combo "sudo rm -rf /" while you are at it? or "rm -rf $HOME". disabling key combos is lame.
[06:02] <vimpulse> losher:  i am not the only one who's made that accident.
[06:03] <The^user> GOOD MORNING VIETNAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[06:03] <nanotube> mechtech: hehe
[06:03] <nanotube> !hi | The^user
[06:03] <pog> losher: in jaunty it's Ctr-Alt Sysreq (or something like this)
[06:04] <madLyfe> Wade: all i did was go to administration and then to hardware drivers and it scanned the computer then brought up the broadcom situation and downloaded something and now it works...
[06:04] <fireshroom_> when i go to system --> Hardware drivers, my video card drivers are not there to activated(using x1400)
[06:04] <stryker> mechtech: how can I make VLC default music player?
[06:04] <nanotube> stryker: right click on file of type you want to make it default for, go to "open with" tab, select it.
[06:04] <mechtech> stryker: go to syatem>preferences>preferred apps
[06:05] <vimpulse> losher:  you are advanced enough to re-enable it.  OTOH, many innocent people who hit Ctrl-Alt-Backspace by accident in past years were not advanced enough to manually disable it.  Instead, re-enable it for yourself, or press Ctrl+Alt+F1 then use kill(1).  :)
[06:05] <ctmjr> fireshroom_: try this for the open source drivers make sure you read the tweaks section https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[06:05] <vimpulse> nanotube:  the dangerous command to remove the / directory is disabled by default in the latest GNU rm, unless you pass the --no-preserve-root option.
[06:06] <nanotube> vimpulse: how do you /accidentally/ hit ctl-alt-backspace, anyway? you gotta aim for it.
[06:06] <vimpulse> nanotube:  there are many ways.
[06:06] <mechtech> stryker: I ended up removing all my other media players because they wouldn't stop trying to play my files
[06:06] <stryker> mechtech: ohh, i see
[06:06] <vimpulse> nanotube:  if you Google and can't find any, then I will point you to some.
[06:07] <nanotube> vimpulse: heh
[06:07] <pog> losher: in jaunty it's alt-sysreq-k
[06:07] <WIGGMPk> I need help making a script that will open up a terminal and launch an application (kismet)
[06:07] <stryker> mechtech: yeah, vlc plays them
[06:07] <mechtech> can anyone tell me how to get vlc to populate the playlist for shoutcast?
[06:07] <stryker> mechtech: but i would like to know why amarok or aTunes do not play them, because the main reason is my friend wants an iTunes look a like, and well, VLC does not look like iTunes
[06:07] <mechtech> stryker: by default? just by following my advice?
[06:08] <nanotube> stryker: maybe you don't have the codecs installed?
[06:08] <mechtech> stryker: I wouldn't have a clue...sorry...I couldn't get a few different apps to work, so they went bye-bye\
[06:08] <stryker> mechtech: no, i had to right click and go to open with, it would open with movie player
[06:08] <nanotube> stryker: try looking at the medibuntu repository.... see below:
[06:08] <nanotube> !medibuntu
[06:09] <fireshroom_> when i type $ lspci -nn | grep VGA says command not found
[06:09] <stryker> nanotube: i think i installed the right codecs
[06:09] <mechtech> stryker: that's exactly why I removed mine
[06:09] <stryker> mechtech: jaja okay i see
[06:09] <pog> WIGGMPk: what's the problem?
[06:09] <fireshroom_> nevermind figired that one out
[06:09] <fireshroom_> removed dollar sign dumb me
[06:10] <WIGGMPk> pog: well first, I never really made a script before, and two, I want a "shortcut" persay for the kismet program.. Kismet needs to be run from a terminal.. So I suppose I need a script that opens a terminal and then executes kismet.. I dont know where to start..
[06:10] <WIGGMPk> pog: I have been reading online, and its not really making that much sense ill admit
[06:11] <pog> o.k. you cann place the script anywhere, make it executable by chmod a+x scriptname
[06:12] <nanotube> WIGGMPk: if you open the run dialog (alt-f2) and just type in "kismet", it should start....
[06:12] <WIGGMPk> pog: the contents of the script is what im unsure of..
[06:12] <WIGGMPk> nanotube: negative, I dont use gnome-panel, therefore no run dialogs
[06:13] <nanotube> WIGGMPk: what /do/ you use?
[06:13] <pog> WIGGMPk: when you start a application from gome starter you can select "terminalapplication" an enter the path/script
[06:13] <WIGGMPk> nanotube: besides thats not the solution I want.. which is a clickable shortcut.. AWN
[06:13] <pog> WIGGMPk: I you will have to test the script from a terminal
[06:14] <nanotube> WIGGMPk: in that case, just make the script contain "gnome-terminal -e 'kismet'"
[06:14] <nanotube> WIGGMPk: (or use whatever terminal emulator you prefer)
[06:14] <nanotube> WIGGMPk: that will open the terminal, and execute the command.
[06:14] <pog> what do you use for a system and WM?
[06:14] <WIGGMPk> nanotube: cool... can this be done from alacarte or must it be a script?
[06:15] <nanotube> WIGGMPk: since it's a one-liner, i think you can swing it with alacarte...
[06:15] <WIGGMPk> nanotube: pog: thanks guys/gals for the help
[06:16] <glicks> hey does anyone know how to get subtitles to show on in a movie in vlc, or movie player?
[06:16] <glicks> i have a .sub file
[06:16] <nanotube> WIGGMPk: np :)
[06:17] <outy> im trying to fix a problem with audacious not playing sound,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/234922/
[06:17] <outy> i have some errors when i sudo audacious
[06:18] <WIGGMPk> nanotube: works like a charm
[06:18] <mechtech> I know I keep harping on this, but why not use vlc...it works, and call me crazy, but I'm a big fan of software that works!
[06:19] <leetcharmer> hihi all :D
[06:19] <outy> vlc sucks for 20 thousand mp3s AND as the main player for all avi/movies/etc
[06:19] <glicks> i cant seem to load the subtitles file for this movie
[06:20] <mechtech> outy: works great for me :-}
[06:20] <leetcharmer> how is everyone tonight?
[06:20] <nanotube> !hi | leetcharmer
[06:20] <stryker> everyone, this is very important, my friend just installed a graphics driver and he restarted the computer, now when he turns on the laptop, the screen does not turn on
[06:21] <donnybrasco> can anyone help me with installing a tar.gz?
[06:21] <mechtech> stryker: try hooking up an external monitor so you can at least troubleshoot
[06:22] <bastidrazor> outy, why would you run an audio player with sudo?
[06:22] <stryker> well, he's 5000 miles away and im not sure if he has an extra monitor ><
[06:22] <WIGGMPk> nanotube: sorry to bug you again.. but could you direct me to any good scripting resource sites to read up? I eventually want to try and automate some things for my penetration testing..
[06:22] <stryker> mechtech: could the driver update have done this?
[06:22] <losher> mechtech: you *are* crazy. Software that works, indeed. Start all that nonsense & pretty soon everybody & their uncle will start thinking its the norm....
[06:22] <nanotube> WIGGMPk: google for "advanced bash scripting guide". it's the ultimate scripting reference.
[06:22] <BellinXFelon> my desktop says "The process for the desktop protocol died unexpectedly"
[06:23] <WIGGMPk> nanotube: thanks =)
[06:23] <mechtech> losher: *WHAT?*
[06:23] <nanotube> WIGGMPk: np :)
[06:23] <mechtech> stryker: definitely
[06:23] <nanotube> WIGGMPk: also, generally, "man somecommand" is a good thing to try on anything :)
[06:23] <rufuscure> hi how do i get my tablet pc touch screen to work in ubuntu ?
[06:23] <stryker> mectech: he is dual booting, and not even the initial screen turns on, nothing, it can still do that?
[06:24] <WIGGMPk> nanotube: yea.. i neglect the manpages resource a lot.. =(
[06:24] <stryker> mechtech: i mean, the driver can actually ruin the laptops screen?
[06:24] <nanotube> WIGGMPk:  :)
[06:24] <mechtech> stryker: wow...no, but it could make the video output stop altogether
[06:25] <mechtech> losher: pm me?
[06:27] <stryker> mechtech: jeez, this can't be happening, my friends laptop could just have been ruined and its my fault, omfg
[06:27] <mechtech> stryker: have him try to boot to the live cd
[06:28] <stryker> but when he turns on the laptop nothing comes up on the screen, so i am not even sure it will boot off the CD
[06:28] <nanotube> stryker: screen doesn't turn on as in, not even for the bios?
[06:28] <stryker> nanotube: no
[06:28] <nanotube> stryker: wow, that's pretty serious...
[06:28] <losher> stryker: I suppose the driver could have corrupted the bios, but that's very surprising...
[06:29] <stryker> nanotube: he said it went black during the restart
[06:29] <stryker> and it stayed black, so he shut it off
[06:29] <stryker> losher: hmm
[06:29] <donnybrasco> I am trying to install 64-bit flash, but it's a tar.gz file, which I don't know how to install can anyone help?
[06:29] <nanotube> stryker: if it went black during restart, that was even before the new driver was being used, so doubt that it's due to the new driver. probably just an unrelated hardware failure.
[06:29] <mataks> how to set up remote desktop? i already check the allow other to view my desktop but it says that your dekstop is only reachable over the local network.. no ip address to connect to.
[06:29] <brmj> I just got here and missed part of the explaination, but this sounds like a hardware problem.
[06:29] <stryker> donnybrasco: you should double click the tar.gz and the regular file should be inside
[06:30] <losher> stryker: and quite rare. I wonder if he's had a hardware failure that just happened to coincide with what you did. LCDs do lose their backlights you know...
[06:30] <mechtech> nanotube: pretty huge coincidence
[06:30] <nomad77> stryker: tell him to try fn + for laptop brightness maybe
[06:30] <phurl> reprepro Error: Distribution doooh contains an architecture called 'all'. any ideaS?
[06:30] <donnybrasco> did that - extracted it, but now it's a .so - which I can't use =)
[06:30] <stryker> nomad77: i will
[06:30] <nanotube> mechtech: well... yea, but... if it went black during restart, i really doubt it's the driver.
[06:30] <cyberjorge> hi everyone
[06:30] <nomad77> had prob before
[06:30] <stryker> donnybrasco: you have to make a folder named plugins under the .mozilla in your home folder
[06:31] <stryker> losher: im not sure
[06:31] <stryker> nanotube: isee what you mean
[06:31] <nomad77> laptop ubuntu here but was fine
[06:31] <mechtech> nanotube: ubless the driver was actually firmware
[06:31] <cyberjorge> how do empty a content of a folder then move the whole content of another folder?
[06:31] <artillerytx> anyone know why im getting this http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m36d41976
[06:31] <cyberjorge> what command to use?
[06:31] <artillerytx> when i run the command when i type " grep -r -i iptables /etc/
[06:31] <nanotube> mechtech: well, he would have said "firmware" then :)
[06:31] <mechtech> nanotube: re-write the eprom withthe wrong code, and *POOF* there goes the magic smoke!
[06:31] <stryker> mechtech: the driver was installed from the System>Administration>Hardware Drivers
[06:31] <losher> stryker: well, restarting does stress the hardware. If he power-cycled it, that's when most electronics dies...
[06:32] <johnny5_> didn't take long for me to be back lol
[06:32] <nanotube> stryker: mechtech: well, in that case, definitely not firmware.
[06:32] <donnybrasco> and just put the libflashplayer.so in that folder?
[06:32] <dumbterm> 1qwdffghfhfgh
[06:32] <mechtech> nanotube: stryker: true that
[06:32] <stryker> donnybrasco: yes, then restart the browser
[06:32] <stryker> mectech: nanotube: i see
[06:32] <brmj> I'm considering buying or building a new desktop and I'm looking for a video card with dual DVI outputs and good support using FOSS drivers. Does anyone have a recommendation?
[06:33] <donnybrasco> awesome - thanks stryker (I feel like a dumbass) =)
[06:33] <cyberjorge> how do I empty a content of a folder then move the whole content of another folder?
[06:33] <mechtech> brmj: nvidia
[06:33] <stryker> donnybrasco: don't worry, we all started one time or another
[06:33] <cyberjorge> or simply copy the whole content of a folder and overwrite all existing files in the target directory
[06:33] <donnybrasco> thanks - been trying to do it on my own for awhile now - haha
[06:34] <stryker> donnybrasco: your welcome!
[06:34] <nomad77>  Cyber_Akuma cp -r is recursive copying
[06:34] <losher> stryker: first thing to try is to power off, wait a minute, then power on again and see if it comes back...
[06:34] <stryker> losher: i asked and he said he did that a couple of times
[06:34] <nomad77> cyberjorge: cp -r
[06:35] <stryker> he's not responding right now, he said he was going to open up the laptop, although i don't know what good it will do
[06:35] <brmj> mechtech: Thanks. I thought nvidia kind of had the exact opposite reputation when it comes to FOSS drivers, though.
[06:35] <mechtech> stryker: unfortunately, he'll probably always blame you because of when it happened (like the time my grama's doorknob came off in my hand), but it really wasn't your fault
[06:35] <johnny5_> I'm trying to set up a remote desktop from my windows box to my ubuntu box. I have made it work so far after I've logged in once, I want it to work on startup. I tried making a symblink to vncserver but apparently I made a broken link, what I am looking for is exact terminal phrasing to get this done.
[06:35] <losher> stryker: black screen (backlight failure) is one of the commonest failure modes for laptops...
[06:35] <FragorSlagen> hello
[06:36] <mechtech> brmj: sorry
[06:36] <stryker> mectech: well, he's like a best friend.. so i'm hoping not :P
[06:36] <nomad77> stryker: i has same black screen tried my bios hotkeys for brightness,no more prob
[06:36] <nomad77> has/had
[06:36] <FragorSlagen> I think ubuntu is trying to make me install a faulty update
[06:36] <stryker> nomad77: i see
[06:36] <nomad77> its a gnome-brightness applet thing iirc
[06:36] <brmj> mechtech: I might be wrong. I haven't built a system for a few years, so things may have changed.
[06:38] <mechtech> brmj: I said Nvidia because so many people use them with great success, and people are always ragging about radeons ( who do not develop linux drivers, by the way)
[06:38] <novalys> Can anyone help me with a dual monitor issue? (My laptop is not detecting my external VGA monitor, Ubuntu 9.04 Intel Graphic Card)
[06:39] <mechtech> brmj: and as far as I'm concerned, those are the only really good chipset manufacturers out there
[06:39] <johnny5_> brmj: my best suggestion would be surf the company sites before purchase
[06:40] <artillerytx> where is the iptables file located
[06:40] <artillerytx> ?
[06:40] <synusoida> type iptables
[06:40] <brmj> johnny5_: Unfortunately, the companies don't talk about how well their products work with FOSS drivers.
[06:40] <losher> brmj: often, newegg reviewers will comment on whether a card works well, and whether it works with ubuntu or not...
[06:41] <hyperionx11> artillerytx, sudo updatedb; locate iptables
[06:41] <brmj> losher: Thanks. I'll have to take a look.
[06:41] <johnny5_> if your patient you could do a write in to a magazine
[06:41] <nomad77> artillerytx: the binary's in  /usr/sbin
[06:41] <johnny5_> make them do the work for you
[06:41] <artillerytx> nomad77: i need to add a port
[06:41] <artillerytx> or a line to open a port for webmin even though i know its not supported
[06:41] <artillerytx> cause i can't access it
[06:41] <artillerytx> randomly that is
[06:42] <nanotube> artillerytx: to list all firewall rules, try "sudo iptables --list"
[06:42] <nanotube> artillerytx: to add stuff... "man iptables" for the syntax
[06:43] <wes1> Hello, I'm having some trouble with my sources file and apt-get/synaptic, I posted everything I know here http://http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1224961
[06:43] <novalys> Can anyone help me with a dual monitor issue? (My laptop is not detecting my external VGA monitor, Ubuntu 9.04 Intel Graphic Card)
[06:43] <johnny5_> losher: that's how I pick mine lol amazon newegg ebay walmart and tigerdirect reviews
[06:43] <artillerytx> nanotube: you know why webmin would work on port 10000 and then randomly stop working
[06:43] <artillerytx> well not randomly we turned off the computer and moved it then turned it back on
[06:43] <MT-> !webmin
[06:44] <johnny5_> anyone help me yet?
[06:44] <MT-> !patience | johnny5_
[06:44] <johnny5_> if you did I missed it heh
[06:44] <nanotube> artillerytx: check to see if it is maybe running on another port now?
[06:44] <losher> johnny5_: agreed. it's a good strategy....
[06:44] <artillerytx> nanotube:not sure how to check that
[06:44] <nanotube> artillerytx: command "sudo netstat -plantu" will show you all ports which have stuff connected to them.
[06:45] <nanotube> artillerytx: look for the webmin process in there
[06:45] <stryker> nanotube: mechtech: losher: he says that the computer stayed black after it had restarted, not while the restart
[06:45] <MT-> !webmin | artillerytx
[06:45] <artillerytx> oh silly
[06:45] <MT-> artillerytx: there's a reason it breaks ;)
[06:45] <stryker> nanotube: mechtech: losher: and now the monitor does not turn on at all
[06:45] <losher> johnny5_: what symlink did you make?
[06:45] <MT-> !ebox
[06:45] <artillerytx> ebox sucks
[06:45] <t3hp00ky> anyone know why flash doesn't work in 9.04
[06:46] <overclucker> hey ubottu, can you respond to simple quesions yet?
[06:46] <nanotube> stryker: mechtech: losher: still, if it never even came up after the reboot, not ever to show the bios - that means it happened before the driver started to be used (which only happens once Xorg starts loading)
[06:46] <MT-> artillerytx: then make it better - webmin WILL break unless you modify the source so it works w/ the configs
[06:46] <johnny5_> losher: hold on I'll get the exact line I typed heh
[06:46] <overclucker> aww
[06:46] <artillerytx> MT-: Well i wish i could but nothing works as well as webmin
[06:46] <artillerytx> MT-: ebox isn't even for web servers
[06:47] <stryker> nanotube: stryker: losher: okay, so it could be the monitor just died? he also says the HD is not responding
[06:47] <MT-> artillerytx: nor is webmin - they're both for servers
[06:47] <artillerytx> MT-: webmin - web management
[06:47] <Cyber_Akuma> Woudl newegg be the best place to get a cheap 7200rpm 2.5 inch 500GB drive?
[06:47] <artillerytx> or lets say web - administration
[06:47] <losher> stryker: I don't understand. How can he tell his HD isn't responding if his monitor doesn't work?
[06:47] <johnny5_> sudo ln -s /etc/init.d/vncserver S99vncserver
[06:48] <overclucker> what does ubuntu-server come packaged with? i'm sure they have some sort of http interfaced package and config system
[06:48] <stryker> losher: idk
[06:48] <Milos> Question -- I can't use only quotatools, I have to have quota installed and then I use quotatools just to modify settings? Or is quotatools the whole set?
[06:48] <t3hp00ky> whats the shutdown command for a network interface
[06:48] <MT-> artillerytx: or - administration from a web interface - they both do the same thing
[06:48] <vimpulse> repeat:  I was using my terminal emulator, and meant to press Ctrl-PgUp, but pressed the adjacent combo on my laptop:  the Ctrl-\ combo.  Because of the way the OS is designed, that combo sent SIGABRT, immediately terminating the program I was using without saving my game.  Do you agree that this is a dangerous key combo?  Or disagree?
[06:48] <MT-> artillerytx: anyway - not worth arguing over facts
[06:48] <nanotube> Cyber_Akuma: it's probably ok. check some other places and see if you find it cheaper. maybe amazon, buy.com, pricewatch.com?
[06:49] <overclucker> sudo ifconfig device up/down
[06:49] <Cyber_Akuma> ok, ill look around
[06:49] <nanotube> t3hp00ky: ifdown
[06:49] <milo__> please can u tell me how to fix this: /var/lib/apt/lists/lock: Permission denied
[06:49] <Cyber_Akuma> planning to replace the 5400rpm 500gb drive I have
[06:49] <johnny5_> Cyber_Akuma: I use newegg or tigerdirect if it's a lot of stuff I use tigerdirect because they charge same shipping for everything else I use newegg but I do a bit of price judging as well.
[06:49] <losher> johnny5_: looks ok. But you have to be in the right directory when you issue it (/etc/rc2.d). Can you see the link when you ls -l ?
[06:49] <glicks> hey whats a good filesystem type for portable harddrive?
[06:49] <t3hp00ky> so ifconfig "device" down
[06:49] <Cyber_Akuma> glicks: depends, what will it be used on?
[06:50] <MT-> tannerS: yup
[06:50] <johnny5_> I think I was in rc3.d
[06:50] <glicks> Cyber_Akuma, linux, windows?
[06:50] <Cyber_Akuma> If you are going to be using it on anything that isn't a computer, you are pretty much stuck with FAT32
[06:50] <nanotube> t3hp00ky: "man ifdown" for details
[06:50] <overclucker> yup
[06:50] <tannerS> guys how can i check if im running 32 bit or 64 bit
[06:50] <johnny5_> mayhap that my problem
[06:50] <tannerS> MT hi'
[06:50] <nanotube> tannerS: "uname -a"
[06:50] <MT-> tannerS: sorry
[06:50] <qpmm> I'm still struggling to capture loopback audio under 8.04 with VLC. If anyone has experience with Ubuntu's audio stack, please give me a holler
[06:50] <Cyber_Akuma> likea console or whatever
[06:50] <overclucker> although ifdown might be an easier solution
[06:50] <brmj> Just so everyone knows, I think I found the ideal card for what I described earlier.
[06:50] <Cyber_Akuma> Windows and Linux? NTFS
[06:50] <t3hp00ky> Do both use NTFS?
[06:51] <tannerS> nanotube thank u
[06:51] <Cyber_Akuma> most modern linux distros can read/write ntfs
[06:51] <losher> johnny5_: runlevel 2 is the default for Ubuntu...
[06:51] <nanotube> tannerS: np :)
[06:51] <Cyber_Akuma> ubuntu included
[06:51] <Cyber_Akuma> at least recent versions of ubuntu
[06:51] <phurl> reprepro Error, were can i get hepl
[06:51] <Cyber_Akuma> But Windows can only do FAT. FAT32, and NTFS
[06:51] <t3hp00ky> So what file system does Ubuntu use?
[06:51] <losher> stryker: maybe you need to get him some local help. He sounds confused...
[06:51] <Cyber_Akuma> so you are kinda stuck with those choices
[06:51] <Cyber_Akuma> and NTFS is far netter
[06:51] <glicks> ntfs?
[06:51] <Cyber_Akuma> Ubuntu supports many
[06:51] <nanotube> t3hp00ky: by default, ext3
[06:51] <johnny5_> I don't know ubuntu that well yet, was actually using fedora before this
[06:52] <glicks> so i should keep the ntfs file system on it?
[06:52] <Cyber_Akuma> but ext3 is teh most common one
[06:52] <johnny5_> I'm actually really setting up my box so I can access it anywhere heh
[06:52] <Cyber_Akuma> Windows can't read EXT* on it's own though
[06:52] <Cyber_Akuma> yeah
[06:52] <losher> johnny5_: you're almost there. cd /etc/rc2.d;  sudo ln -s /etc/init.d/vncserver S99vncserver
[06:52] <glicks> does ntfs  suffer from fragmentation like fat?
[06:52] <Cyber_Akuma> yes
[06:52] <t3hp00ky> What does ext3 stand for?
[06:53] <Cyber_Akuma> at least it dosen't have the filesize limts like fat32 though
[06:53] <stryker> losher: nanotube: mechtech: he's telling me that nothing happens when he turns it on, nothing at all
[06:53] <Cyber_Akuma> you cant have a single file over 4gigs on fat32
[06:53] <glicks> is there a defrag tool avail for linux?
[06:53] <overclucker> haha
[06:53] <johnny5_> thanks losher
[06:53] <mechtech> stryker: the whole computer: make sure batt is seated correctly etc...
[06:53] <nanotube> t3hp00ky: probably something like "extended filesystem v3)
[06:53] <nomad77> stryker:  try the fn+f8 if its an hplaptop
[06:53] <overclucker> noatime
[06:54] <losher> stryker: and check the power supply etc...
[06:54] <stryker> its an acer
[06:54] <t3hp00ky> Can windows read ext3?
[06:54] <nomad77> ohh hmm
[06:54] <stryker> the lights of the laptop turns on, but nothing happens
[06:54] <vimpulse> glicks:  A tip:  If you use ntfs, make sure you use NTFS-3G, you should use Linux kernel's built-in ntfs driver, to read and write the NTFS partition.
[06:54] <nomad77> t3hp00ky: no
[06:54] <stryker> by lights i mean the power light and the ones next to it
[06:54] <glicks> vimpulse, im just pluggin in the drive
[06:54] <glicks> lol
[06:54] <overclucker> you can setup fstab to handle data placement more gracefully
[06:54] <mechtech> stryker: he needs a service provider...sorry
[06:54] <nanotube> losher: johnny5_: i think it's more advisable to use the "update-rc.d" script, instead of manually creating symlinks in /etc/rcX.d
[06:54] <t3hp00ky> nomad77: but linux can read NTFS and VTFS?
[06:55] <Cyber_Akuma> no, windows cannot read or write any filesystem other than FAT or NTFS
[06:55] <MT-> t3hp00ky: I'm pretty sure ext just stands for extended
[06:55] <stryker> :(
[06:55] <nomad77> yuh if its setup properly
[06:55] <Cyber_Akuma> Most linnus distros CAN now read and write NTFS
[06:55] <qpmm> ext2 and ext3 can be read by Windows with a special plugin
[06:55] <Cyber_Akuma> all of them can read/write FAT
[06:55] <wes1> So I'm getting a "Failed to check for installed and available applications" error in add/remove programs, I tried all of the recommended stuff from threads on the forums to no avail. Synaptic is also giving me an error, threads on the forums suggest it's because of another instance of apt-get or synaptic running in the background, but I'm sure there isn't. Anyone have any ideas?
[06:55] <Cyber_Akuma> qpmm: Risky
[06:55] <glicks> windows cant read reiser?
[06:55] <johnny5_> nanotube: Will that help me make a list of programs?
[06:55] <Cyber_Akuma> o
[06:55] <mechtech> stryker: has he tried connecting an external monitor yet: even monochrome, just for troubleshooting?
[06:55] <Cyber_Akuma> no
[06:56] <glicks> not even with an addon?
[06:56] <Cyber_Akuma> What part of "only FAT and NTFS" did you not understand?
[06:56] <Cyber_Akuma> Well, with addons maybe
[06:56] <nanotube> johnny5_: what kind of list do you want to make?
[06:56] <Cyber_Akuma> but its not safe
[06:56] <MT-> glicks: no - and since ext4, I stopped using rfs
[06:56] <overclucker> sure it can, windows just can't make any sense of it
[06:56] <stryker> mechtech: he doesn't have an external monitor
[06:56] <mechtech> stryker: crap!
[06:56] <Aero231> please help, my apt-get doesn't work
[06:57] <Aero231> is there anyone here that can help?
[06:57] <t3hp00ky> This is very interesting. So Linux can read the file systems but Windows cannot, how does this effect a business if they wanted to go opensource?
[06:57] <losher> nanotube: johnny5_: either way. Also, see sysv-rc-conf
[06:57] <overclucker> aero231, doesn't work how? type the full command you used
[06:57] <johnny5_> nanotube: this is eventually going to be a server I can remote into, probably be running mysql a java side server program for an MMO, apache and php
[06:57] <stryker> mechtech: but if it were just the monitor, the dual-boot settings should send him to windows automatically, thus the corny windows music should sound, but it does not,
[06:58] <bastidrazor> losher, i don't think nfs mounts will work on different subnets . so far for me it isn't
[06:58] <losher> t3hp00ky: it's one of the smaller problems businesses face if they want to go open source
[06:58] <mechtech> t3hp00ky: that's exactly WHY MS makes their stuff like that...for them, the more proprietary the better...that's why they're so entrenched in the business world
[06:58] <nanotube> t3hp00ky: essentially, not at all - there's rarely a reason to try to read a linux drive from windows
[06:58] <vimpulse> losher:  :)
[06:58] <losher> bastid_raZor: can you do rpcinfo -p <server> from the client?
[06:58] <johnny5_> in addition it's going to be a "blackbox" between the internet and my home network.
[06:58] <Cyber_Akuma> "how does this effect a business if they wanted to go opensource?"
[06:59] <Cyber_Akuma> Windows will NOT go opensource
[06:59] <mechtech> stryker: I don't think so...he's sitting there waiting to choose to boot to win or linux
[06:59] <losher> vimpulse: I hope that comment has redeemed my earlier one about ctrl-alt-delete in your eyes
[06:59] <johnny5_> eh blackbox is really pushing it more like a funnel lol
[06:59] <Cyber_Akuma> thats like asking what woudl happen if Nintendo put a Mario game on the 360
[06:59] <t3hp00ky> losher: so most businesses that use linux servers still have to use Windows based domain controllers?
[06:59] <stryker> no, in 10 seconds it will choose windows automatically
[06:59] <MT-> !offtopic
[06:59] <Aero231> $ sudo apt-get install mysql-server-5.0
[06:59] <Aero231> Reading package lists... Done
[06:59] <Aero231> Building dependency tree
[06:59] <Aero231> Reading state information... Done
[06:59] <Aero231> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
[06:59] <Aero231> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
[06:59] <FloodBot1> Aero231: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:59] <bastidrazor> losher, hmm i may need to forward some ports.
[06:59] <stryker> cuz he installed via wubi
[06:59] <amel> hey
[07:00] <vimpulse> losher:  don't worry.  I still disagree with your comment about it being a nuisance, but I am used to such comments and am not offended.  :)
[07:00] <Aero231> hello, here is the problem I have: http://paste.ubuntu.com/234949/
[07:00] <losher> bastid_raZor: can you ping from client to server. How do those packets get forwarded?
[07:00] <t3hp00ky> So does linux support domain control?
[07:00] <losher> vimpulse: good, we can agree to disagree...
[07:00] <t3hp00ky> Like windows?
[07:00] <mechtech> stryker: oh...go online and start getting the documentation for his machine...help him out
[07:01] <vimpulse> t3hp00ky:  did you mean "Does Linux support NIS and locking down local machines"?  Then yes.
[07:01] <glicks> has anyone used the windows ext2 tool for windows?
[07:01] <mike_bruns_com> Hi all, quick support question.  I somehow broke my keyboard & mouse with Gnome.  I waas disabling services.  I reenabled everything I disabled thru sysvconfig, but It's still not working.  Does anyone have a suggestion on where I should look next?
[07:01] <glicks> if it works should i just use ext3 on my portable drive?
[07:01] <Bob_Dole> glicks, I did a long time ago. I havn't used windows much in a long time, though.
[07:01] <vimpulse> glicks:  I've used explore2fs.  It's annoying to use, but it works.
[07:01] <mechtech> t3hp00ky: the internet originated on UNIX, Linux is open-source Unix-like OS...the domains ARE linux
[07:02] <losher> t3hp00ky: the ones I've seen export nfs to the linux boxes and samba to the windows ones, and do something frightful to keep the user stuff synchronized...
[07:02] <glicks> damnit i guess ill just use crappy ntfs
[07:02] <bastidrazor> losher, i get output from that command, but the route is a bit tedious .. host >router>router>wifi>client
[07:02] <johnny5_> t3hp00ky: try SAMBA I think it has something to do with windows domain controller
[07:02] <t3hp00ky> vimpulse: sorry I'm new to all this. So linux has a policy editor like windows does?
[07:02] <bastidrazor> losher, wifi == wifi router
[07:02] <Aero231>  can someone give me a hand in apt-get, this is what I get: http://paste.ubuntu.com/234951/
[07:03] <Aero231> apt-get literally doesn't work, cannot find any packages
[07:03] <MannyinHelp> Hi
[07:03] <Techie> glicks, there is a software that allows you to load ext formatted drives as regular drives
[07:03] <t3hp00ky> um
[07:03] <wes1> I really need some help getting add/remove and synaptic to work http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1224961
[07:03] <t3hp00ky> sudo apt-get?
[07:03] <losher> bastid_raZor: well, nfs runs over udp (and optionally tcp). So those packets have to able to get through somehow. And any retransmissions will crucify performance...
[07:03] <MannyinHelp> Anyone couuld help me setuuing up a local network
[07:03] <MannyinHelp> ???
[07:03] <johnny5_> t3hp00ky: http://www.steve-lacey.com/blogarchives/2006/11/linux_as_a_wind.shtml
[07:03] <Techie> glicks, http://www.fs-driver.org/
[07:03] <stryker> mectech: losher: nanotube: hes gonna call it a night, thanks for your help guys
[07:04] <Aero231> can someone give me a hand in mysql, this is what I am getting: http://paste.ubuntu.com/234951/
[07:04] <Nick_Meister> hello guys i am getting the following error, E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[07:04] <Nick_Meister>  but even when i run the suggested command i get similar errors
[07:04] <artillerytx> MT-: is ISPconfig supported here?
[07:04] <losher> stryker: he's probably really stressed right now. Try again tomorrow...
[07:04] <Aero231> can someone give me a hand with apt-get install mysql-server, this is what I get: http://paste.ubuntu.com/234951/  (It doesn't install any packages)
[07:04] <mechtech> Aero231: Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that
[07:04] <mechtech> the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
[07:04] <mechtech> that package should be filed.
[07:04] <MT-> !ispconfig
[07:04] <stryker> losher: yeah, he is, he's gonna leave it like that for tomorrow and just give it another try
[07:05] <MannyinHelp> NEED help setting up my local network any help plz ??
[07:05] <Aero231> mechtech: what do you mean?
[07:05] <losher> stryker: been there...
[07:05] <stryker> losher: yeah...
[07:05] <overclucker> aero, you should check your sources list, have you modified it at all?
[07:05] <QPrime> Aero231: likely a sources issue.  pastebin your sources file.
[07:05] <mechtech> Aero231: that's lines 41 to 43 of your pasted output...it's telling you that the package you're trying to get is broken, not apt-get
[07:06] <MT-> artillerytx: you can ask - but the likelyhood of support is low considering its volume
[07:06] <mechtech> overclucker and qprime are right
[07:06] <stryker> well guys, gonna call it a night
[07:06] <overclucker> pastebin cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:06] <artillerytx> MT-: i just wish webmin would write config files correctly so i could use it
[07:06] <stryker> thanks
[07:06] <losher> Aero231: why are you truying to install version 5.0. I'm guessing that's not the version in the repository. Hence the error
[07:07] <Aero231> Here are my sources.xml.  I haven't modified it, the commented stuff is me trying to fix it, I put it back to where it was
[07:07] <Aero231> http://paste.ubuntu.com/234952/
[07:07] <mechtech> Aero231: you also need to resolve the dependancies errors before continuing with the install
[07:07] <Aero231> losher: mysql is in the repository, it always has been
[07:07] <MT-> artillerytx: that's exactly why it's not supported in here - it's designed for rhel based distros
[07:07] <johnny5_> Aero231 I'd clean that up and do just a: sudo apt-get install mysql-server
[07:08] <overclucker> i succesfully installed mysql-server-5.0 through apt just yesterday
[07:08] <Aero231> mechtech: mysql is in the repository, I have installed it at least 20 times before, ever since edgy was released, but this install, something is wrong, probably because it's amd64??
[07:08] <Aero231> johnny5_: it gives same output
[07:08] <losher> Aero231: agreed. But which version is in the repository?
[07:08] <overclucker> if anything, it is tryinging to pull it from a broken, buggy repository
[07:08] <johnny5_> I did it about 10 minutes ago
[07:08] <QPrime> Aero231: you are using the security repos only.  your other repos are disabled.
[07:08] <MT-> !shell
[07:09] <Aero231> losher: mysql-server-5.0 is in the repo
[07:09] <MT-> that's not what the shell is...
[07:09] <Aero231> QPrime, how do I find out which repo a package is in?  If I found it in packages.ubuntu?
[07:09] <losher> Aero231: ok, then fix your sources file...
[07:09] <overclucker> should be in main
[07:09] <QPrime> Aero231: it should be in main.
[07:10] <Aero231> QPrime: How do you know which repository to add? is there a list somewhere that I can paste into sources.xml?
[07:10] <johnny5_> losher: he's right that's what I got... It looks like something to do with that dependancy that won't install...
[07:10] <QPrime> check your settings in "System->Settings-Software Sources"
[07:10] <Aero231> it's ubuntu-server
[07:10] <overclucker> uncomment the main repo
[07:10] <johnny5_> losher: I mean he's right on the distro num
[07:10] <overclucker> or your life will be a living hell
[07:11] <QPrime> Aero231: ahh.. then take overclucker's advice. hes right.
[07:11] <losher> Aero231: johnny5_:  so the repository is broken? Unusual, but not unheard of...
[07:11] <overclucker> (especially about the hell on earth part)
[07:11] <abhijit_> hi
[07:11] <BigMike> what is the animated gif creator for linux
[07:11] <johnny5_> losher: no the repository is fine, I ment he's right on the distro number
[07:11] <Aero231> overclucker: which is the "main" repo that's commented?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/234952/
[07:12] <Nick_Meister> guys i cant figure it out for the life of me
[07:12] <abhijit_> hi everyone! anybody knows how to install .tar.gz file?
[07:12] <JRSmile> tar -xvzf file.tar.gz
[07:12] <abhijit_> ok
[07:13] <lstarnes> abhijit_: extract it then look for a README or INSTALL file in it
[07:13] <Aero231> QPrime: whic is the "main" repo that's commented?
[07:13] <johnny5_> Aero231: Do you know how to configure make and install manually? you can try that way.
[07:13] <BigMike> HI all what is the animated gif creator for linux????
[07:13] <Mozillero> ola
[07:13] <losher> Aero231: add: deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy main restricted
[07:13] <Aero231> johnny5_: no thanks, I'd rather fix the package manager
[07:13] <nomad77> BigMike: the gimp,maybe?
[07:14] <losher> Aero231: and also deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-updates main restricted
[07:14] <mechtech> can anyone tell me why vlc won't populate shoutcast TV listings?
[07:14] <Aero231> losher: thanks so much losher, that worked
[07:14] <mechtech> losher: won't he need to resolve those dependancy errors first?
[07:14] <Aero231> losher: How do you know which repos to add?
[07:14] <BigMike> ok will check the gimp tt
[07:14] <Aero231> where are they listed?
[07:14] <BigMike> ty
[07:15] <overclucker> i actually don't see the main repo listed there
[07:15] <johnny5_> Aero231: It's not that hard lol
[07:15] <losher> Aero231: I copied them out of my /etc/apt/sources.list, since I'm running hardy too. They should have been put there at install time...
[07:15] <Nick_Meister> the sources .list is correct and everything yet it is giving me so mahny errrors
[07:15] <Aero231> losher: very strange, maybe because mine is server version
[07:15] <Aero231> Do you guys know of an online resource where I can get a fresh copy of sources.xml?
[07:16] <losher> Nick_Meister: paste your errors to pastebin please...
[07:16] <lstarnes> Aero231: sources.xml?
[07:16] <mechtech> !paste
[07:16] <tafadzwa> Cest la vie
[07:16] <tafadzwa> Hi all
[07:16] <losher> Aero231: I can paste mine if you wish. Btw: it's not an xml file, it's place old text...
[07:16] <Nick_Meister> losher, http://pastebin.org/4722
[07:16] <Aero231> ok thanks losher
[07:16] <James_Bond> How does a hacker fix a function which doesn't work for all of the elements in its domain? The answer is: He changes the domain.
[07:17] <johnny5_> lol @ Nick_Meister
[07:17] <James_Bond> lol
[07:17] <Mozillero> olaaaaaaaaa
[07:17] <Nick_Meister> :S
[07:17] <tafadzwa> I wanted to ask is there a way to move my whole Ubuntu system to a usb
[07:17] <overclucker> sources aren't stored in xml form
[07:17] <Nick_Meister> what?
[07:17] <Nick_Meister> what does xml have to do with anything?
[07:17] <overclucker> not sure
[07:17] <Mozillero> ola
[07:18] <tafadzwa> I am selling my laptop but I would like to keep a lot of stuff a saved passwords and email from my ubuntu
[07:18] <Mozillero> algun  chcopara  convrsar  al  privado?
[07:18] <nomad77> !es > Mozillero
[07:18] <losher> Nick_Meister: you are having dns problems....
[07:18] <^Einstein> !es | Mozillero
[07:18] <tafadzwa> My USB is 15 gig, my ubuntu is 10 gig
[07:18] <overclucker> that might be an idea for 9.10 though . . .migration to xml . .
[07:18] <Nick_Meister> losher, but its accessing the internet fine, and i can access it from the internet as well
[07:18] <QPrime> Nick_Meister: is that box getting dns resolves properly?
[07:18] <losher> Aero231: http://pastebin.com/f13784418
[07:19] <Nick_Meister> losher, its on my private network right now with me
[07:19] <mechtech> Nick_Meister: losher is correct, was able to resolve archive.ubuntu.com with no problem
[07:19] <Nick_Meister> and im talking to you guys arent i
[07:19] <johnny5_> tafadzwa: Do you want it as backup or to actually run your computer from it>
[07:19] <lstarnes> overclucker: the current sources.list format is easier to parse and doesn't need XML's complex tree structures
[07:19] <Nick_Meister> i used firefox to resolve it as well
[07:19] <tafadzwa> backup
[07:19] <Nick_Meister> so what could be the problem?
[07:19] <tafadzwa> sorry, english is second language
[07:19] <tafadzwa> back up
[07:19] <Nick_Meister> and how can i fix it?
[07:19] <overclucker> lstarnes, very true, especially when working with c
[07:20] <johnny5_> tafadzwa: I would recommend reading about creating a backup image
[07:20] <mechtech> Nick_Meister: are you using dhcp, or a static IP?
[07:20] <QPrime> Nick_Meister: are you able to ping archives.ubuntu.com from the terminal shell?
[07:20] <tafadzwa> thanx
[07:20] <Nick_Meister> mechtech, dhcp
[07:20] <glicks> does anyone know how i can view subtitles on a movie player with .sub and .idx files? i cant seem to get it with any video player
[07:20] <tafadzwa> I will google ASAP
[07:21] <mechtech> Nick_Meister: try setting your DNS to use google's servers...that might help
[07:21] <overclucker> dd if=/dev/blah of=/media/thumbdrive/ubuntu.img
[07:21] <overclucker> or something like that
[07:21] <Nick_Meister> QPrime, actually its failing to ping for some reason
[07:21] <amel> hey
[07:21] <losher> Nick_Meister: no kidding...
[07:21] <Nick_Meister> QPrime, it says unknown host ubuntu.com
[07:21] <wes1> Okay so when I try and remove a broken package with synaptic I'm getting an error saying "E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)"
[07:22] <johnny5_> tafadzwa: or you could use outside backup software.
[07:22] <amel> hey
[07:22] <overclucker> wes1, you might have another package manager running
[07:22] <QPrime> Nick_Meister: then the dns servers that you are using are not resolving the ubuntu.com hostnames.
[07:23] <Nick_Meister> QPrime, im not using dns servers, i just have a small home server hooked up to my router
[07:23] <johnny5_> yum lol
[07:23] <losher> !backup | tafadzwa
[07:23] <overclucker> try http://www.opendns.com/
[07:23] <nomad77> Nick_Meister: check firewall settings and/or checkout opendns.org
[07:23] <Nick_Meister> QPrime, admittedly i have it hooked up using static ip while overall thing is dhcp, just cause i didnt want it switching around on me
[07:23] <wes1> overclucker: I checked there doesn't seem to be any other package manager running
[07:23] <johnny5_> ubottu: Overachiever :P
[07:24] <Nick_Meister> QPrime, hold on lemme post my network interface file
[07:24] <ActionParsnip> !fixapt
[07:24] <QPrime> Nick_Meister: the router is likely proxying dns or passing the ISP dhcp dns values to the boxes inside your network.
[07:24] <wereHamster> how do I completely remove a package (including config files etc)?
[07:24] <mechtech> Nick_Meister: $ host google.com
[07:24] <mechtech> google.com has address 64.233.167.99
[07:24] <mechtech> google.com has address 64.233.187.99
[07:24] <mechtech> google.com has address 72.14.207.99
[07:24] <FloodBot1> mechtech: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:24] <mechtech> floodbot!
[07:24] <Nick_Meister> QPrime, no the router is using its own dhcp server inside of it
[07:25] <losher> wereHamster: sudo apt-get purge <packagename>
[07:25] <artillerytx> what is the best firewall to use ?
[07:25] <johnny5_> ubottu: you a bot? that was pretty fast...
[07:25] <ActionParsnip> losher: its --purge ;)
[07:25] <tafadzwa> ubottu thank you
[07:25] <QPrime> Nick_Meister: yes, and thants fine... but what dns values it is passing to your clients?
[07:25] <ActionParsnip> !best | artillerytx
[07:25] <ActionParsnip> !firewall | artillerytx
[07:25] <wereHamster> losher: thanks
[07:25] <losher> ActionParsnip: thank you. See that, wereHamster?
[07:25] <indus> artillerytx: use gufw
[07:25] <Nick_Meister> QPrime, how do i find that ?  and this is my interface file http://pastebin.org/4723
[07:26] <indus> artillerytx: i dont know about best, but its the official ubuntu one
[07:26] <artillerytx> okay
[07:26] <indus> !ufw > artillerytx
[07:26] <ActionParsnip> artillerytx: best is a very poor word to qualify something. i suggest you use it less
[07:26] <johnny5_> who made ubottu
[07:26] <Nick_Meister> QPrime, and obviously i can ssh into it through the .15 ip
[07:26] <johnny5_> losher: I'm going to go test what you helped me with lol
[07:26] <losher> Nick_Meister: so what's in your /etc/resolv.conf ?
[07:26] <mechtech> those were old IPs
[07:27] <ActionParsnip> johnny5_: i think she is Pici's but I am unsure he made her
[07:27] <mechtech> host google.com
[07:27] <mechtech> google.com has address 74.125.127.100
[07:27] <mechtech> google.com has address 74.125.67.100
[07:27] <mechtech> google.com has address 74.125.45.100
[07:27] <FloodBot1> mechtech: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:27] <mechtech> ok already
[07:27] <overclucker> lol
[07:27] <Nick_Meister> mechtech, ha0s@cha0s-desktop:~$ host google.com
[07:27] <Nick_Meister> ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
[07:27] <johnny5_> Thanks if I don't make it back
[07:27] <ActionParsnip> mechtech: please use pastebin, you have done that twice now
[07:28] <johnny5_> oh and thanks ActionParsnip you'd think she'd know her creator
[07:28] <Nick_Meister> so uhm yah, it got no access to internet for some odd reason
[07:28] <mechtech> Nick_Meister: ping? tracerote?
[07:28] <QPrime> Nick_Meister: you are using a static ip on that box without a specific dns entry.  I'm guessing that its using mDNS to try and resolve hosts. add a dns entry to your ifconfig or set your box back to dhcp and use a dhcp reservation (if your router supports it) to give a consistent address to the box via dhcp.
[07:28] <ActionParsnip> johnny5_: makes sense
[07:28] <abhijit_> i just download eclipse c++ ide as .tar.gz format and i already have eclipse java ide so how to install this c++ide?
[07:28] <abhijit_> anybody?
[07:28] <ActionParsnip> abhijit_: tar zxvf <file>   will get you started
[07:28] <ActionParsnip> !info ide
[07:28] <johnny5_> ActionParsnip: Illogical sir highly illogical
[07:28] <ActionParsnip> !ide
[07:29] <Nick_Meister> QPrime, so the static thing is whats making it not work?
[07:29] <unop> !info eclipse-cdt
[07:29] <TannerS> guys im looking for a program that makes a floating dock just like a mac on ubuntu...it starts with an "a"
[07:29] <unop> abhijit_, ^^ looks like ubuntu already has the C/C++ plugins
[07:29] <Nick_Meister> QPrime, how do i add a dns entry? cause my routers dhcp wont let me specify ips for boxes
[07:29] <QPrime> Nick_Meister: well yes, without a dns server to resolve hostnames things are not going to work correctly.
[07:30] <TannerS> anyone?
[07:30] <ActionParsnip> abhijit_: i suggest youuse eclipse-cdt raher than the file you have, in ubuntu its rare to actually download an app like thta and it uses reposirorys and deb files
[07:30] <losher> Nick_Meister: dns is specificed in /etc/resolv.conf. What does yours say?
[07:30] <mechtech> Nick_Meister: you have specified an IP address to use, but have not told your system where to look in order to resolve domain names into IP addresses...DNS
[07:30] <ActionParsnip> !awn | TannerS
[07:30] <TannerS> damnit thanks!
[07:30] <abhijit_> hi actionparsnip what is this eclise-cdt how to use this?
[07:30] <Nick_Meister> losher, it says nothing
[07:31] <ActionParsnip> abhijit_:  eclipse-cdt (source: eclipse-cdt): C/C++ Development Tools for Eclipse. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.1.2-2 (jaunty), package size 17403 kB, installed size 19844 kB
[07:31] <Nick_Meister> mechtech, whats the property name in the intefaces file to add for the dns
[07:31] <QPrime> Nick_Meister: add a dns-nameservers entry to your interface definition.  you can use one of the dns dervers that mechtech offered
[07:31] <ActionParsnip> abhijit_: sudo apt-get install eclipse-cdt
[07:31] <ActionParsnip> abhijit_: job done
[07:31] <mechtech> Nick_meister: what qprime said
[07:31] <Nick_Meister> QPrime, i was going to use the ones that my router says its using
[07:32] <ActionParsnip> abhijit_: you dont need to the file you ownloaded, like I said, Ubuntu uses repositorys and rarely fils like that
[07:32] <QPrime> Nick_Meister: why are you not using the network manager applet for interface management anyway?
[07:32] <QPrime> Nick_Meister: thats a good choice :)
[07:32] <wes1> Okay so I managed to get rid of the apt-get process, but now I get this when I try and remove the broken package "E: /var/cache/apt/archives/postfix_2.5.5-1.1_i386.deb: subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 1"
[07:32] <Nick_Meister> QPrime, i dont have a monitor for the box i only got ssh
[07:32] <abhijit_> ok
[07:32] <mechtech> Nick_meister: those are probably fine, and belong to your isp, but google has like all the bandwidth in the world
[07:32] <abhijit_> thnx actionparsnip
[07:32] <QPrime> Nick_Meister: that should be your ISP's dns server at least
[07:32] <TannerS> where is a good place to get themes?
[07:33] <ActionParsnip> abhijit_: try searching in synaptic before you start downloading stuff from the web
[07:33] <QPrime> Nick_Meister: ahh.. fair enough.
[07:33] <abhijit_> ok
[07:33] <ActionParsnip> !themes > TannerS
[07:33] <TannerS> ty
[07:33] <mechtech> TannerS: http://francois.vogelweith.com/?lang=en
[07:33] <glicks> how the hell do i get movie player to show subtitles with my .sub file?
[07:34] <ActionParsnip> wes1: sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get -f install; sudo depmod -a; sudo apt-get update
[07:34] <Nick_Meister> QPrime, i added the following is that ok?         dns-nameservers  68.87.85.102
[07:34]  * QPrime high-five's mechtech on the irc double team.
[07:34] <Nick_Meister>                          68.87.69.150
[07:34] <ActionParsnip> glicks: vlc does it
[07:34] <glicks> ActionParsnip, ive tried vlc
[07:34] <QPrime> Nick_Meister: yup
[07:34] <mechtech> QPrime: *High5ing back!
[07:34] <Nick_Meister> QPrime, now how do i make it apply those settings?
[07:34] <MT-> Who was the owner of apple that died?
[07:34] <syntax_> those themez look good mec
[07:34] <mechtech> Nick_Meister: save the file
[07:34] <abhijit_> hi
[07:35] <MT-> wrong chan...
[07:35] <salmon> hey im having some problems with sound in flash... running 9.o4 and have pulse audio device chooser. when i open it it says sound is coming from the flash stream. it also has my sound card chosen. all other sound works. just not flash. any ideas
[07:35] <QPrime> Nick_Meister: you may need to bring the interface down then up.
[07:35] <losher> QPrime: I don't see dns-nameservers documented in man interfaces, which is upsetting...
[07:35] <mechtech> syntax_: I thought so too...installed them earlier, but haven't really checked them out
[07:35] <abhijit_> Hi, is there any web browser than other than firefox but as powerful as firefox?
[07:35] <Nick_Meister> QPrime, how do i do that?
[07:35] <abhijit_> any suggestion?
[07:35] <ActionParsnip> !ot | MT
[07:35] <mechtech> Nick_Meister: man interfaces
[07:36] <Nick_Meister> QPrime, that is all in one go, cause i cant actually see what im doing once its offline lol.
[07:36] <glicks> im running vlc right now
[07:36] <ActionParsnip> abhijit_: opera
[07:36] <Nick_Meister> QPrime, so like restart interface or something
[07:36] <abhijit_> ok
[07:36] <losher> abhijit_: why not just use firefox. It's as powerful as firefox, guaranteed...
[07:36] <ActionParsnip> abhijit_: there are other gecko based browsers like swiftfox, kazenchase etc that are lighter
[07:36] <mechtech> lol@ losher
[07:36] <salmon> ha ha
[07:36] <Nick_Meister> ah screw it ill just reboot it
[07:37] <ActionParsnip> abhijit_: epiphany is nice
[07:37] <salmon> losher, hey thanks for the help from before.. i got everything running now
[07:37] <QPrime> Nick_Meister: make sure that interfaces file is correct and saved then reboot.  thats the only suggestion that I have if you are not local to the box - ie. ssh'd in
[07:37] <MT-> ActionParsnip: that's why I said "wrong channel...."
[07:37] <losher> salmon: excellent, what we like to hear...
[07:37] <salmon> losher, except for sound in flash [grrrr]
[07:37] <wes1> YAY!
[07:37] <abhijit_> i want two browser bcause i have two yahoo account to open at a time thats why..
[07:37] <ActionParsnip> abhijit_: konqueror if you dont mind the qt dependanciy installer (if you don't already have)
[07:37] <syntax_> http://francois.vogelweith.com/?p=124&lang=en wow
[07:37] <losher> salmon: flash/sound issues are notorious in 9.04...
[07:37] <wes1> fix'd thanks ActionParsnip
[07:38] <ActionParsnip> wes1: nice :)
[07:38] <mechtech> abhijit: open two tabs at once
[07:38] <salmon> losher, they worked before :[ just not now
[07:38] <wes1> Now I can go to sleep, see ya'll
[07:39] <salmon> losher, you have any ideas. simple stuff i should check. my brain is spent from solving the install problems
[07:39] <losher> abhijit_: you can open two firefox instances simultaneously if you want to. Use the profile manager and the no-remote options.
[07:39] <att0> If I use the 8.04 LTS install CD, is there a dual-boot install option? And would this allow me to choose whether to boot into XP (primary OS) or Ubuntu every time I turn on my computer?
[07:39] <losher> salmon: sorry, I gave up on 9.04 and went back to 8.04....
[07:40] <salmon> att0, yes and yes
[07:40] <losher> att0: yes, that's exactly how it will work...
[07:40] <ActionParsnip> abhijit_: try a few browsers if you want dude. firefox is by no means "best', but neither is it "worst"
[07:40] <abhijit_> losher if i open two firefox at a time but is it possible then to open two different yahoo mail id on that two firefox instance?
[07:40] <att0> thank you, off to install :)
[07:40] <whammo> hello my sound stopped working after update, any tips?
[07:40] <salmon> losher, don't blame ya, i would do the same if it wasn't for the fact that sound has only worked in WoW in 9.04
[07:40] <losher> abhijit_: if you use two different profiles, the two firefoxes will be completely independent. Simpler to open one firefox and one opera though...
[07:41] <Nick_Meister> QPrime, noodles, lol cant connect to it anymore :(
[07:41] <abhijit_> ok losher
[07:41] <abhijit_> i try
[07:41] <ActionParsnip> whammo: try: amixer -q set PCM 100% unmute
[07:41] <QPrime> Nick_Meister: oh hell :(
[07:41] <QPrime> Nick_Meister: is ot on the same ip subnet?
[07:41] <mechtech> night-all...time to veg, then sleep
[07:41] <losher> salmon: wish I have a dime for everyone on this channel with 9.04 sound/flash issues...sorry...
[07:41] <Nick_Meister> QPrime, i didnt do anything but adding those two lines
[07:42] <whammo> no such file
[07:42] <salmon> ActionParsnip, just had to say i have seen you on here before, and i love your s/n it makes me laugh every time
[07:42] <whammo> don't have amixer
[07:42] <ActionParsnip> salmon: its a harry hill joke. Glad i make youo laugh :D:D
[07:42] <QPrime> Nick_Meister: two lines?  you only needed the dns-nameservers line
[07:42] <losher> NIck_meister: QPrime: I don't see dns-nameservers documented in man interfaces. Are you sure it works? What about /etc/resolv.conf?
[07:42] <whammo> fresh install of 9.04, sound worked before update
[07:42] <abhijit_> hi losher i just tried you suggestion but it doesnt work
[07:43] <QPrime> Nick_Meister: what TWO lines did you add?
[07:43] <salmon> losher, yeah i have heard, the most painful part is before my hdd crash. all i had to do was install flash. and now. i get this :[
[07:43] <ActionParsnip> whammo: sometmes PCM likes to start on 0, its bizarre, that line is from my fixsound script
[07:43] <glicks> this sucks
[07:43] <abhijit_> i thinkg i should try some light brower
[07:43] <losher> abhijit_: which suggestion? And doesn't work how?
[07:43] <abhijit_> browser
[07:43] <losher> abhijit_: you are a master of brevity...
[07:43] <Nick_Meister> QPrime,  the ones i posted on here
[07:44] <ActionParsnip> abhijit_: try Kazehakase or midori
[07:44] <whammo> according to desktop applet, PCM is 35% or so. could it be muted somewhere else?
[07:44] <ActionParsnip> whammo: run your volume manager, see whats shaking
[07:45] <ActionParsnip> abhijit_: Kazehakase is default in Fluxbuntu
[07:45] <abhijit_> losher when i open 1st firefox then i open 2nd instance. then on 2nd instance i have to sing out first account then sign in again for new account but after doing this when i go back to 1st instace then there is also new account is logged in and it ask password
[07:45] <QPrime> Nick_Meister: ahh ok two nameservers lines.
[07:45] <abhijit_> any way actionparsnip i will try softfox
[07:45] <Nick_Meister> QPrime, yah
[07:45] <abhijit_> sorry swiftfox
[07:45] <abhijit_> thnx
[07:45] <abhijit_> all of u
[07:45] <ActionParsnip> hehe, they all have the same gecko base
[07:45] <QPrime> Nick_Meister:  is that box on the same subnet as your current machine?
[07:46] <whammo> volume control indicates nothing odd, preferences sound test gives no error, bouncing bar goes back and forth silently
[07:46] <jacquesdupontd> hi
[07:46] <ActionParsnip> !opera | abhijit_
[07:46] <losher> abhijit_: that's because you aren't using different profiles. Use one opera and one firefox. It will be much easier....
[07:46] <Nick_Meister> QPrime, yah
[07:46] <jacquesdupontd> fucking moskitos
[07:46] <QPrime> Nick_Meister: I'm gonna PM you to get this out of the channel. we'll do a little arping to see if that box is alive.
[07:46] <ActionParsnip> !sound | whammo
[07:47] <abhijit_> ok losher
[07:47] <ActionParsnip> !ohmy | jacquesdupontd
[07:47] <losher> QPrime: Nick_Meister: too bad. I was enjoying following along...
[07:47] <abhijit_> thnx ubottu
[07:47] <jacquesdupontd> yes i know
[07:47] <jacquesdupontd> sorry for that
[07:47] <jacquesdupontd> it passed in my head and had to tell it
[07:47] <jacquesdupontd> ActionParsnip, you're testing the bot ?
[07:47] <losher> jacquesdupontd: and no abuse towards mosquitoes either, you hear?
[07:47] <jacquesdupontd> ActionParsnip, or searching for informations ?
[07:48] <jacquesdupontd> losher, hehe yes :)
[07:48] <whammo> well thanks anyway
[07:48] <jacquesdupontd> whammo, what do you search ?
[07:49] <heroid> can i make a cd uncopyable with ubuntu?
[07:49] <qpmm> How can I disambiguate where my sound card's audio is going? (e.g. /dev/audio, /dev/snd, etc) Is there a configuration file, a command, or any way?
[07:49] <pisse> Hi! I really need some help! :( My computer freezes during boot (can't get to login screen and instead shows me last sessions screen, flickers and then shows me 2 of the ubuntu load bar on the upper side of screen and the last sessions desktop but very messed up on the bottom...) I've tried to go into safe mode and go to the terminal and use dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg twice but hasn't helped at all! Last session I tried
[07:49] <whammo> i search "ubuntu sound not working after update" and read many posts about unmuting. I'm not muted.
[07:49] <jacquesdupontd> the sun java is rising over my headset (like that it doesn't seems offset ? does it ?)
[07:49] <losher> heroid: interesting question. No, I don't think you can....
[07:49] <jacquesdupontd> whammo, did you checked pulse
[07:49] <jacquesdupontd> !pulse
[07:50] <abhijit_> thnkx all of u i just install eclipse-cdt and it is working fine.
[07:50] <heroid> losher, i posted about this on the forums but nothing
[07:50] <whammo> ohhhh i probably need to KILL pulse, it does nothing good for me. thanks, I'll go do that
[07:50] <jacquesdupontd> that's what i did for many reason
[07:50] <jacquesdupontd> i deleted pulse
[07:51] <ActionParsnip> jacquesdupontd: i use it but only because it works out of the box for me.
[07:51] <jacquesdupontd> whammo, for skype for exemple
[07:51] <losher> heroid: I'm not surprised. CD manufacturers have been trying to make uncopiable cds for years, and they haven't succeeded. So what chance do you have?
[07:51] <whammo> i don't want to remove any "essential" packages so I'll just settle for crippling it ;P
[07:51] <n0ahNetbook> Hello All! Anyone familiar with how to adjust the brightness on an eeepc 901 from the terminal.  I attempting to map a hotkey but don't know what command to supply.
[07:51] <jacquesdupontd> ActionParsnip, hehe ok was just wondering if you were trying to find something and if i could help ya
[07:51] <ActionParsnip> jacquesdupontd: help away. it's always welcommed
[07:52] <qpmm> Is there a configuration file, command, or ANY other means of disambugating where a sound card is outputting audio? (e.g. /dev/audio, /dev/snd, etc)
[07:52] <C-S-B> i have my entire home partition encrypted with truecrypt, i have a fake .profile in an empty home/csb folder which prompts the mounting of my home directory. This works but I have to log in again after the .profile has mounted my home folder. Is there a better place to put the truecrypt mount line?
[07:52] <whammo> um what about skype?
[07:52] <jacquesdupontd> ActionParsnip, now i'm woken up cause of those oops
[07:52] <whammo> sorry I don't know anything about skype
[07:52] <heroid> C-S-B, no with truecrypt it doesn't work
[07:52] <jacquesdupontd> whammo, big problem with pulse
[07:52] <jacquesdupontd> whammo, i mean not big, but anoying
[07:52] <pisse> n0ahNetbook: You should try out eeebuntu :) I use it on my eee pc 901 and all hotkeys work
[07:53] <whammo> does ubotu have a handy link for disabling pulse?
[07:53] <jacquesdupontd> pisse, didn't knew there was a eeebuntu
[07:53] <overclucker> yuk, eeebuntu
[07:53] <ActionParsnip> !pulse
[07:53] <pisse> jacquesdupontd: http://eeebuntu.org/
[07:53] <whammo> !pulsedie
[07:53] <overclucker> just use the scripts from eeebuntu
[07:54] <TannerS> Guys I have windows vista and windows 7 installed in my system, but grub bootloader only sees the vista one, what cna i do?
[07:54] <n0ahNetbook> pisse: thanks I'm actually in love with netbook remix, all of my hotkeys work after installing eee-control I just want to make the do different things
[07:54] <losher> C-S-B: can I see the line from the fake .profile ?
[07:54] <jacquesdupontd> whammo, f you decide you no longer like PulseAudio and would like to disable it: Remove the added lines to /etc/asound.conf If /etc/asound.conf did not exist when you installed PulseAudio, you may remove /etc/asound.conf entirely.
[07:55] <jacquesdupontd> whammo, it's on the link i gave you before
[07:55] <ActionParsnip> TannerS: you will need to add an entry in /boot/grub/menu.lst to boot the other OS
[07:55] <jacquesdupontd> thx pisse
[07:55] <overclucker> eeebuntu itself is so configured towards a specific usergroup, that it looses a lot of it's luster
[07:55] <TannerS> ActionParsnip, im alreayd viewing the file, just dont know which..... well my vista entry has this in it (hd0,0) idk what my win 7 is, maybe (hd0,10?
[07:55] <whammo> excellent jacques thanks
[07:55] <TannerS> *(hd0,1)
[07:56] <ActionParsnip> TannerS: the entry that boots the vista is pretty much what you need but the partition used will be different
[07:56] <C-S-B_> losher: its just truecrypt /dev/sda3 /home
[07:56] <ActionParsnip> TannerS: if you only have 1 disk, the first number will always be 0
[07:57] <C-S-B_> losher: it works, but after the mount, Im brought back to the login screen to log in again
[07:57] <ashish> hi to all
[07:57] <LiraNuna> postfix doesn't answer to me in telnet, anyone has an idea?
[07:57] <ActionParsnip> TannerS: if you read the output of: sudo fdisk -l  you will see what partition number (you will need to subtract 1 as grub numbers start at 0 and linux start numbers at 1)
[07:57] <ashish> i am wrkng on astgui client
[07:57] <ashish> for ubuntu sysytem
[07:57] <C-S-B_> losher: which is a little unnecessary
[07:57] <TannerS> ActionParsnip , ok let me see
[07:57] <akalias> I have an old VMWare appliance -- gutsy gibbon `headless` server.  The /etc/apt/sources.list is out of date.  apt-get always fails. What can I do to fix it?
[07:57] <LiraNuna> telnet localhost 25 // connects but doesn't reply 250 mail.something.com
[07:57] <ActionParsnip> TannerS: make an extra entry and you can try it, if it boots, great, if not, boot to Ubuntu and re-edit
[07:57] <whammo> hmm my asound.conf is a blank page
[07:58] <akalias> I understand gutsy gibbon is `out of service`
[07:58] <ashish> Can anybody help me to install vicidial for asterisk in an ubuntu syaytem
[07:58] <TannerS> Actionparsnip, so what u mean is if it says sda2 for win 7 put it has (hd0,1) ?
[07:58] <ActionParsnip> akalias: it has readhed its end of life
[07:58] <ActionParsnip> TannerS: yep
[07:58] <losher> C-S-B: Are you saying you get logged out automatically after the .profile runs?
[07:58] <ActionParsnip> TannerS: assuming sda is the first disk according to grub
[07:59] <ActionParsnip> TannerS: if you only have a single disk, the answer is definately yes
[07:59] <TannerS> sda1 is wind vista sda2 is win 7, in the menu file says win vista boot loader entry is (hd0,0)
[07:59] <TannerS> and yes
[07:59] <ActionParsnip> TannerS: don't worry if its wrong it wont break anything, just that entry won't boot anything
[07:59] <akalias> @ActionParsnip    How can I upgrade to another distro?  apt-get dist-upgrade fails
[08:00] <pisse> I still need help getting to the login screen due to (most likely) messed up graphics config.
[08:00] <ActionParsnip> TannerS: why do you need vista and 7 installed?
[08:00] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade > akalias
[08:00] <akalias> tnks
[08:00] <C-S-B_> losher: no, im saying i log in, am prompted by trucrypt for my encryption password, it mounts home then i am taken back to the login screen where i have to log in again then my system is up.
[08:00] <jacquesdupontd> that's weird every time i ask something on #ubuntustudio nobody answers, do anybody knows a bit about ubuntustudio ?
[08:00] <ActionParsnip> pisse: boot system, press esc at grub, select recovery mode, select fix graphics, reboot
[08:00] <TannerS> Actionparsnip, win vista main OS and testing out win7 64 bit, and getting used ot it now =] also i cant edit the menu file how can i open it as root?
[08:00] <jacquesdupontd> !ubuntustudio
[08:01] <ActionParsnip> TannerS: gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:01] <TannerS> ty
[08:01] <pisse> ActionParsnip: I've tried that with no success :( also did the dkpg-reconfigure xserver-xorg command with no luck
[08:01] <ActionParsnip> TannerS: or sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst   if you prefer nano, etc
[08:01] <ashish> i hav downloaded astguiclient package for vicidial ,but i stuck in last point and also, i wana to know about any manual entries for configuration
[08:02] <ActionParsnip> pisse: then you can boot to recovery root console, run:   nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf    and set the driver to "vesa"  for the video card
[08:02] <jacquesdupontd> whammo, sudo apt-get --purge remove pulseaudio
[08:02] <TannerS> ok going to tets brb  guys
[08:02] <akalias> @ActionParsnip  Just wanted to say thanks again. Very much appreciated -- ok I stop polluting the channel now
[08:02] <losher> C-S-B_: 'taken back to the login screen' <-- I don't understand this part. taken back by what? Why doesn't your login session simply continue after /home is mounted?
[08:03] <ActionParsnip> akalias: np man :)
[08:04] <QPrime> losher: Nick_Meister is good to go now.  just chatting with him in priv now.
[08:04] <C-S-B_> losher: i dont know why. I just am. Its an unecessary step im trying to rid off. I would like my session to continue when /home is mounted.
[08:04] <whammo> thanks but I don't want to remove ubuntu-desktop I'm sure there's a way to cripple PA instead of removing it
[08:04] <oldude67> C-S-B_, did you say you was using truecrypt on your /home?
[08:04] <losher> QPrime: what was the problem?
[08:04] <C-S-B_> oldude67: yes, my entired home partition is encypted
[08:05] <TannerS> damn no louck
[08:05] <qiyong> jaunty is 9.04 ?
[08:05] <pisse> ActionParsnip: Seems like the reconfigure changed a lot in xorg.conf? I don't even have a driver option there. Is it  in section "Device" I should have like Driver "vesa" ?
[08:05] <losher> C-S-B_: it's going to be hard to remove that unnecessary step it we can't figure out why it happens in the first place....
[08:06] <TannerS> ActionParsnip , no luck =/
[08:06] <QPrime> losher: hes using intrepid, the newer interfaces setups dont seem to work, went back to resolv.conf (as you had suggested)
[08:06] <qiyong> !jaunty
[08:06] <C-S-B_> losher: i know, thats why im in this situation. :9
[08:06] <C-S-B_> :(
[08:06] <ActionParsnip> pisse: you can add the line:     Driver "vesa"
[08:06] <losher> QPrime: got it...
[08:06] <ActionParsnip> !grub | TannerS
[08:07] <C-S-B_> oldude67: any suggestions from you?
[08:07] <jacquesdupontd> ActionParsnip, there is simplier ways
[08:07] <ActionParsnip> jacquesdupontd: to do what?
[08:07] <jacquesdupontd> ActionParsnip, i know a tool for restoring grub that works perfectly on ubcd
[08:08] <ActionParsnip> jacquesdupontd: its not really restoring, its addig an extra option for windows
[08:08] <jacquesdupontd> ActionParsnip, this boot cd is really cool and plenty of tools and always usefull in such situation www.ultimatebootcd.com
[08:08] <phurl> how can i get apt on fedora to download debs?
[08:08] <ActionParsnip> jacquesdupontd: used it a billion times dude
[08:08] <pisse> ActionParsnip: Anywhere or in a specific section?
[08:08] <jacquesdupontd> ActionParsnip, great im not alone :)
[08:08] <losher> QPrime: I couldn't find much mention of a dns-nameservers keyword even in google. Is it very new?
[08:08] <ActionParsnip> pisse: in the configured video device section
[08:08] <legend2440> hello i'm using jaunty with gnome. when i plug in kodak dx3500 digital camera and type  lsusb in terminal it doesn't show up. however, when i plug in sandisk mp3 player it does show up in lsusb. any ideas what i can try?
[08:09] <ActionParsnip> jacquesdupontd: used to work in a pc repair shop, idiots forgetting their admin pass all the time. classic
[08:09] <jacquesdupontd> ActionParsnip, HAHA exactly same
[08:09] <radioman-lt> ;}
[08:09] <pisse> ActionParsnip: ok, thnx.. rebooting
[08:09] <jacquesdupontd> ActionParsnip, i have my enterprise of repairing computer
[08:09] <ActionParsnip> legend2440: does the kodak show itself in the output of dmesg
[08:09] <rww> phurl: you'd want to ask #fedora about that, this channel is only for Ubuntu support.
[08:09] <legend2440> ActionParsnip: let me check
[08:09] <ActionParsnip> jacquesdupontd: been and done it, i fix thousands of servers now, remotely from uk to usa
[08:10] <jacquesdupontd> ActionParsnip, wow great :)
[08:10] <losher> ActionParsnip: jacquesdupontd: so what does it cost per hour to recover a lost admin password these days?
[08:10] <jacquesdupontd> ActionParsnip, it must pay a lot more now no ? :)
[08:10] <redDEAD> im looking for a program that records both video and audio. Id like to make a video podcast using my webcam and mic.
[08:11] <ActionParsnip> losher: we did it for 20 quid
[08:11] <jacquesdupontd> losher, i make everybody pay 45 euros for repairing i go to their house and they don't pay if i don't repair, and its 45 euros for everything except reinstallation which is 100 euros
[08:11] <ActionParsnip> losher: takes about 3 mins
[08:11] <rww> jacquesdupontd, ActionParsnip, losher: This discussion would probably better fit #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[08:12] <losher> rww: you're right of course, but it's a slow night...
[08:12] <losher> ActionParsnip: jacquesdupontd: $90 an hour here (san francisco).
[08:12] <jacquesdupontd> rww we are helping people we can have sometimes a litle discution between without going all 3 on offtopic dont abuse this offtopic thing
[08:12] <jacquesdupontd> losher, omg
[08:13] <whammo> i found an excellent guide to disable pulse instead of purging it thanks guys somebody should tell Ubottu about http://idyllictux.wordpress.com/2009/04/21/ubuntu-904-jaunty-keeping-the-beast-pulseaudio-at-bay/
[08:13] <jacquesdupontd> losher, me its 45 euros for any time it takes
[08:13] <pisse> ActionParsnip: Didn't work.. same stuff happend again. It flickers and shows me a messed up picture of the last time I managed to login and then also shows me the loading-bar in wierd colors.. the loading-bar appears on both the top left and top right corners as if the resolution were 1/4 of the screen. When the comp crashed the resolution was lower than otherwise. Maybe if I specify the res it will work? Where can I do th
[08:13] <kevin_> hello, I'm using jaunty on an eeepc HE1000HEB.  I recently switched from an eee specific version of the distro to the generic ubuntu.  Eeeasy Peasy was based on Intrepid or Hardy and I have to be on the bleading razer edge, so I wasn't going to stick around.  The transition went super except that totom will no loger play some media formats.  I tried to update gstreamer* but it says the version in the repo is corrupt or something.  I'm a bit o
[08:13] <kevin_> f linux noob, so can anyone recommend a way for me to restore this functionality?
[08:13] <jacquesdupontd> losher, last one for a vista not booting at all lost BOOTMGR and it tooks quite a long time
[08:14] <losher> ActionParsnip: jacquesdupontd: very interesting, thanks guys, sorry rww
[08:14] <ActionParsnip> pisse: if you log in to root console, then run:   su <your normal username>
[08:14] <ActionParsnip> pisse: then run startx, does it load?
[08:15] <losher> C-S-B_: are you running gnome?
[08:15] <jacquesdupontd> losher, i should may come to san francisco :)
[08:15] <C-S-B_> losher: yes
[08:15] <pisse> ActionParsnip: I'll check! Another note is that when I press the power button when seeing the messed up screen it goes back to the loading-bar and acts normally.
[08:15] <C-S-B_> losher: im think about adding an init.d script maybe
[08:15] <QPrime> losher: http://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration  <-- debian wiki entry on it. not new at all, but interface specific.
[08:16] <sh4rk89> hi man
[08:16] <sh4rk89> i'm italian so I'm sorry for my bad english
[08:16] <ActionParsnip> !it | sh4rk89
[08:16] <losher> C-S-B_: I'm wondering if the session dies because the fake home directory doesn't have any gnome configuration files. Er, it is writeable isn't it?
[08:16] <jacquesdupontd> sh4rk89, i listen to you
[08:16] <pisse> ActionParsnip: starx gives me the same old messed up screen.. :(
[08:16] <switcher> hi, i'm trying to install phpmyadmin but the package cannot be found?
[08:17] <jacquesdupontd> ActionParsnip is in secret love with ubottu
[08:17] <legend2440> ActionParsnip: i did  dmesg > nocamera.txt  with no camera plugged in and then  dmesg > camerapluggedin.txt with the camera plugged in usb and there is no difference in the files
[08:17] <pisse> ActionParsnip: and I can't do anything (ctrl+alt+backspace for example doesn't work)
[08:17] <C-S-B_> losher: its writeable and there are gnome configs in it
[08:17] <rww> switcher: it should be there. Have you done "sudo apt-get update" recently?
[08:17] <ActionParsnip> pisse: bah, and just to test, try it without the su step (running as root, really bad idea but worth a test)
[08:17] <losher> jacquesdupontd: $90 an hour doesn't go far in SF. It's an expensive city...
[08:17] <switcher> rww: yes i done that first
[08:17] <legend2440> !dontzap | pisse
[08:17] <ActionParsnip> pisse: its alt+k+print screen now
[08:17] <losher> C-S-B_: sorry then, I have no better theory...
[08:18] <jacquesdupontd> losher, i can imagine but here it's expensive to in France and where i live
[08:18] <sh4rk89> i've a problem with ubuntu. I've a x86-64 compatible processor, so I recompiled the kernel with ARCH="x86_64". So now I'm using a x86-64 kernel with 32bit userspace.
[08:18] <switcher> rww: is it because i'm using the ubuntu-live-cd on test that the phpmyadmin package cannot be found?
[08:18] <Flannel> jacquesdupontd, losher: please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic, thanks.
[08:18] <jacquesdupontd> losher, just imagine i work 10 hours i got 900$ by days, it can be quite correct don't you think ?
[08:19] <jacquesdupontd> Flannel, sorry
[08:19] <sh4rk89> The problem is that I can't install the nVidia driver for my video card. I've downloaded the 64bit version, but It say to me "nvidia-installer not found"
[08:19] <losher> jacquesdupontd: meet me in #ubuntu-offtopic...
[08:19] <pisse> ActionParsnip: Same stuff running as root...
[08:20] <ActionParsnip> sh4rk89: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-180   if you card is less than a few years old
[08:20] <sh4rk89> I tryed to extract the file from the .run package and run it manually but....I can't execute it! It say "file not found" even if I use the relative path or absolute path
[08:20] <pisse> ActionParsnip: am I f:ed?
[08:21] <switcher> rww: is it because i'm using the ubuntu-live-cd on test that the phpmyadmin package cannot be found?
[08:21] <ActionParsnip> pisse: not at all, just need to work out whats going on. If you startx as user, then use alt+k+sysrq you can drop back to command line then run:  less /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[08:21] <RobertWall> switcher: I'm not sure. To be honest, I'd recommend installing phpmyadmin from upstream anyway. The package is probably harder to set up than the tarball.\
[08:22] <switcher> ok thanks
[08:23] <pisse> ActionParsnip: alt+k+sysrq doesn't work
[08:23] <ActionParsnip> pisse: then follow the dontzap factoid
[08:23] <ActionParsnip> !dontzap | pisse
[08:24] <pisse> ActionParsnip: k
[08:24] <sh4rk89> ActionParsnip: ok...but I want to know why I can't execute that file. I also try chmod a=rwx but nothing is changed. You don't have some ideas? However the driver packed for ubuntu didn't work when I installed the system.
[08:24] <sleepy_cat> is it possible for me to have the Notify-OSD notification system in Ubuntu 9.04 in Ubuntu 8.10 ?
[08:25] <ActionParsnip> sh4rk89: you need to chmod +x the file, then when the log on screen arrives, change the session to console logon
[08:25] <ActionParsnip> sh4rk89: kill gdm and x server, run the app, then reboot
[08:25] <sh4rk89> ActionParsnip: ok, I've done that...the gdm service doesn't execute automatically.
[08:26] <sh4rk89> the problem is that I can't execute that file (nvidia-installer)
[08:26] <sh4rk89> (i'll come back soon)
[08:26] <ActionParsnip> sh4rk89: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fubuntuforums.org%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D990978&ei=KqhuSq3_NsyQtgfK0bzMCA&usg=AFQjCNH5HaufLeEnQJ2rPHP5FrKjObot9g
[08:27] <ActionParsnip> sh4rk89: to make a file executable you need  chmod +x <file>
[08:27] <DrMrHorse> ati left in the dust without a propriety driver for jaunty, and the OS one doesn't work right. i understand there may be a ppa for the OS but I can't find it. anybody know where I should look?
[08:27] <ActionParsnip> sh4rk89: then run it with ./<filename>   make sure the pwd is the same as the folder containing the file
[08:28] <sleepy_cat> Notify-OSD notification system in Ubuntu 8.10
[08:28] <sleepy_cat> anyone
[08:28] <ActionParsnip> DrMrHorse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[08:28] <ActionParsnip> !find notify-osd
[08:29] <ActionParsnip> !info notify-osd intrepid
[08:29] <ActionParsnip> sleepy_cat: you can compile it yourself, or find a ppa of someone who has already compiled it
[08:29] <DrMrHorse> ty mr ActionParsnip
[08:29] <rww> DrMrHorse: There are a few, depending on what level of stability you want. See https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa and the various other PPAs linked in its description.
[08:30] <DrMrHorse> also ty mr/ms rww
[08:30] <pisse> ActionParsnip: Uhmm.. didn't work. I installed dontzap and disabled it and then starx from user and then I couldn't  do either ctrl+alt+backspace nor alt+k+sysrq..
[08:30] <DrMrHorse> damn, its always you two that help me out
[08:30] <barry> salut mec
[08:30] <rww> !fr | barry
[08:30] <barry> hi
[08:31] <pisse> ActionParsnip: maybe when running as user it totally crashes cause I can't use the powerbutton when I do that..
[08:31] <barry> hi to every people
[08:31] <sleepy_cat> ActionParsnip: i saw http://news.softpedia.com/news/Installing-Ubuntu-9-04-039-s-New-Notifications-in-Ubuntu-8-10-105221.shtml but it says cant do for pidgin :(
[08:31] <ActionParsnip> pisse: i'd look at getting that nailed, you could try remove --purgeing gdm, then reinstalling it
[08:32] <Void> me voy
[08:32] <sleepy_cat> any hope for making it work for pidgin also
[08:32] <Innxis> Hello! I have a problem with my keyboard. If I press CTRL, ALT or SHIFT, the keyboard signals sent to the computer doesn't work. For example, if I press CTRL, I hear a bios sound and if I start typing, nothing happens. Also, the mouse gets affected as well, left click having the same action as right click.
[08:33] <Innxis> I can disactivate this by pressing those keys again till I can type.
[08:33] <rww> sleepy_cat: you'd need to get Jaunty's pidgin package too, which probably has a bunch of jaunty dependencies...
[08:33] <Saruji> Hello everyone, I have a question, in setting up VirtualBox, there is an option for the CD-ROM called "pass through" what does this do?
[08:34] <Slart> Saruji: probably makes your "real" cd rom available in the vm
[08:34] <Myrtti> Saruji: it gives the virtual machine direct access to the hardware cd-rom of the host computer
[08:34] <rww> Saruji: I think it means that it exposes the machine's actual CD-ROM drive and the CD in it to the virtual machine.
[08:34] <om26er> hello every1
[08:34] <Saruji> slart myrtti rww thank you
[08:34] <sleepy_cat> oh ok
[08:34] <Innxis> Some help on my topic, please?
[08:35] <TannerS> grrrr
[08:35] <om26er> can anyone please tell me a link to download the base install system of jaunty
[08:35] <sleepy_cat> so basicall rww its no use to try for pidgin to work with that because then there will be some problem with the pidgin to work
[08:35] <KB1JWQ> Innxis: You using a KVM?
[08:35] <Innxis> What's that?
[08:35] <Myrtti> !mini | om26er
[08:36] <pisse> ActionParsnip: Same same again... uninstalled and installed gdm...
[08:36] <rww> sleepy_cat: basically, if you want features from Jaunty, you should be using Jaunty, rather than trying to patch together stuff from Jaunty and stuff from Intrepid.
[08:36] <ActionParsnip> pisse: did you use the --purge option?
[08:36] <om26er> Myrtti: no that one downloads components from the internet
[08:36] <soreau> Innxis: Does /var/log/Xorg.0.log show any problems, like evdev not loading for instance?
[08:36] <Innxis> Whatever I did, it seems that it was a Keyboard Settings problem from the OS. Now it works without a problem...still testing
[08:36] <barry> oh i regret i don't speech english
[08:36] <root> hello guys
[08:36] <sleepy_cat> hmm
[08:36] <root> i need some iptables help
[08:36] <pisse> ActionParsnip: yes
[08:36] <ActionParsnip> root: please tell me you aren't logged on as root
[08:36] <Guest63771> i have  server runnign with squid
[08:37] <om26er> Myrtti: I was asking for an image like 200-250 mb without the need to download components
[08:37] <sleepy_cat> ohk so will have to do without pidgin updated notifications:(
[08:37] <Guest63771> and  i have done transparent erdirection with iptables
[08:37] <ActionParsnip> pisse: ok and have you read the x log?
[08:37] <ActionParsnip> !iptables | root
[08:37] <Guest63771> butit is not able to connect to any pop smtp through proxy
[08:37] <Guest63771> so i enable ip forwarding
[08:37] <pisse> ActionParsnip: nope, where is it?
[08:37] <Guest63771> and what rules do i need in forward chain
[08:37] <Innxis> Thank you anyway.
[08:37] <Guest63771> to allow forwarding of only pop/smtp
[08:37] <ActionParsnip> pisse: run:   less /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[08:37] <Myrtti> Guest63771: keep your question to one line
[08:38] <Guest63771> hmm
[08:38] <TannerS> ActionParsnip, i have such a wierd error
[08:38] <legend2440> anyone had any luck with kodak digital cameras and jaunty with gnome?i have two kodak cameras and nethe is detected by  lsusb or dmesg
[08:39] <pisse> ActionParsnip: What am I looking for? I can't post it here since this is my laptop
[08:39] <ActionParsnip> TannerS: ask the channel
[08:39] <Guest63771> iptables forward help
[08:39] <Guest63771> :(
[08:39] <om26er> ActionParsnip: you must know this. is there any cd image of ubunu-base install which does not require the internet during installation
[08:39] <losher> barry: you know about #ubuntu-fr ?
[08:39] <rww> om26er: yes, the regular live CD or the alternate CD.
[08:39] <ActionParsnip> pisse: you can use: sudo apt-get install pastebinit; pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[08:39] <Fragsworth> After I do apt-get install memcached, does it automatically run the daemon and put it in the system on startup?
[08:39] <om26er> rww: alternate cd do require internet
[08:40] <rww> om26er: no, it doesn't
[08:40] <TannerS> ok well guys, my grub boot loader gives me an option to choose ubuntu or windows, but i cant add a secon windows entry, and i found out why, in grub when i choose windows, it takes me then to windows boot loader and ask me which windows to load vista or 7 :S
[08:40] <TannerS> '
[08:40] <ActionParsnip> om26er: you could put the alternate cd on a usb stick and boot to the minimal iso maybe
[08:40] <barry> yes i now
[08:40] <om26er> rww: and the normal live cd does not install base
[08:40] <barry> yeah i know
[08:40] <losher> barry: ok, just making sure...
[08:40] <om26er> ActionParsnip: what that mean
[08:41] <rww> ActionParsnip: what's the benefit of doing that over just booting from the alternate CD?
[08:41] <pisse> ActionParsnip: pastebin.com/f73d395a7
[08:41] <Guest63771> i have transparent proxy setup in squid and iptables rule but clients need to access outside smtp/pop without proxy  so i enabled ip forwarding with default policy of drop on forward chain  .. what rules do i need to allow only forward for port 25 and 110 ???
[08:41] <barry> ok tanks , it ' s my 2 connection
[08:41] <ActionParsnip> om26er: you can use the alternate cd as an offline repo, boot to the minimal cd then use the offline repo to install what you wish. it may not work but makes sense
[08:42] <Guest63771> ?
[08:42] <pisse> ActionParsnip: The resolution should be bigger imo..
[08:42] <ActionParsnip> rww: you can choose what you want to install with minimal
[08:42] <om26er> ActionParsnip: can you please provide a link for tutoria;
[08:42] <ActionParsnip> om26er: there isnt one. i just thought of it just now
[08:42] <sleepy_cat> while doing that i got an error.. it says libnotify is 0.4.4 and i require 0.4.5 can i update it
[08:42] <rww> ActionParsnip: alternate doesn't let you do that? I thought it did =/
[08:43] <om26er> ActionParsnip: ok boot from minimal and select the alternate cd image ??
[08:43] <ActionParsnip> rww: not sure, i dont use the alternate so couldnt comment
[08:43] <barry> i m loose
[08:43] <barry> lost
[08:43] <ActionParsnip> om26er: if you use the alternate cd i think it will do what you need
[08:43] <Myrtti> barry: /join #ubuntu-fr
[08:43] <sleepy_cat> how to update libnotify to 0.4.5
[08:43] <heroid>                                                       
[08:43] <ActionParsnip> pisse: theres nothing there
[08:44] <pisse> ActionParsnip: row 1905 looks interesting? http://pastebin.com/f73d395a7
[08:44] <om26er> ActionParsnip: alternate cd asks for a cd rom module to load and I don't have any cd rom for my netbook
[08:44] <ActionParsnip> pisse: then uninstall the ati video driver
[08:45] <ActionParsnip> om26er: if you put it on a usb stick you can install from that
[08:46] <om26er> ok unetbootin is working atm when its done I will again bother you
[08:46] <ActionParsnip> om26er: if you have a windows system you can use this guide: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/usb-ubuntu-804-persistent-install-tutorial/
[08:46] <ActionParsnip> om26er: the bottom guide is what i use
[08:47] <sleepy_cat> how should i update to Ubuntu 8.10 libnotify 0.4.5
[08:47] <sleepy_cat> to* 0.4.5
[08:47] <om26er> I have fedora and ubuntu
[08:47] <Myrtti> sleepy_cat: why would you want to update it to 0.4.5?
[08:47] <om26er> ActionParsnip: I have fedora and ubuntu
[08:47] <rww> Myrtti: because they're trying to patch in notify-osd to intrepid :(
[08:48] <ActionParsnip> om26er: er....ok
[08:48] <sleepy_cat> because i was trying out this http://news.softpedia.com/news/Installing-Ubuntu-9-04-039-s-New-Notifications-in-Ubuntu-8-10-105221.shtml but here in step2 i got stuk up in autogen.sh because libnotify is 0.4.5 reqd and i have 0.4.4
[08:48] <ActionParsnip> om26er: yuo can use the top half then
[08:48] <sh4rk89> ActionParsnip: I've done ALL the action listed on that forum but it still not working. The driver is a auto-extract archive (.run) so it extract itself to a temporary directory (/tmp/"randomchar"/) and it has to exectute /tmp/"randomchar"/nvidia-installer but it can't do it automatically (nvidia-installer not found) and I can't do it manually. The shell doesn't seems to see the file. It has the execute privileges and
[08:48] <sh4rk89> I'm in the folder of nvidia-installer. Thanks however!
[08:48] <Myrtti> ew.
[08:48] <sleepy_cat> Myrtti: I was trying out this http://news.softpedia.com/news/Installing-Ubuntu-9-04-039-s-New-Notifications-in-Ubuntu-8-10-105221.shtml but here in step2 i got stuk up in autogen.sh because libnotify is 0.4.5 reqd and i have 0.4.4
[08:48] <Myrtti> sleepy_cat: why do you want the notify-osd though?
[08:49] <ActionParsnip> sh4rk89: you dont extract it, its a .run file, you mark it as executable and then launch it
[08:49] <ActionParsnip> sh4rk89: where have you read to extract it?
[08:49] <sleepy_cat> Myrtti: because i liked it :)
[08:49] <ActionParsnip> sh4rk89: if you have pkg2.run  then its a binary
[08:50] <sleepy_cat> basically its the only thing i liked about ubuntu 9.08 and in a couple of months i will get Ubuntu 9.10 so... will install that instead.. temporarily i am using this since i totally liked it
[08:50] <sleepy_cat> 9.04*
[08:50] <rww> sh4rk89: so just to double-check here... you're trying to get help with installing drivers you got from NVIDIA's website with a 32-bit userland and a 64-bit kernel that you compiled yourself?
[08:50] <Myrtti> sleepy_cat: right. good luck in your ventures.
[08:50] <sh4rk89> rww:yes
[08:50] <Guest46525> andrew
[08:51] <sh4rk89> ActionPasnip: I let the program extract itself automatically and it say "nvidia-installer not found" so I try to extract it manually and execute nvidia-installer manually but nothing is changed!
[08:51] <rww> wow
[08:51] <sleepy_cat> Myrtti: i need help in my venture so i asked in the comm
[08:53] <pisse> ActionParsnip: Do you know which package it is? xorg-driver-fglrx?
[08:54] <ActionParsnip> sh4rk89: are you running 64it or 32bit?
[08:54] <ActionParsnip> pisse: dpgk -l | grep ati    will give clues
[08:54] <om26er> ActionParsnip: unetbootin gives the following options default, install, command line install, expert install, command line expert
[08:54] <heatxsink> hello all does anyone in here know how to setup ubuntu server so that when a user logs in for the first time they have to reset their password?
[08:54] <ActionParsnip> om26er: install sounds good if you want to install the OS? Depends what you want to do
[08:54] <Flannel> om26er: and what do you want to have installed?
[08:55] <sh4rk89> I've a 64bit recompiled kernel (with 32bit emulation support)....my userspace is 32bit, but the driver i'm trying to install is 64 bit!
[08:55] <om26er> ActionParsnip: just the ubuntu base install
[08:55] <Flannel> om26er: No GUI?
[08:55] <rww> heatxsink: for an individual user, you'd do passwd -e usernamehere. Not sure how to do it for every user.
[08:55] <ActionParsnip> sh4rk89: wget http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/185.18.14/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-185.18.14-pkg2.run
[08:55] <sh4rk89>  and that stupid "restricted driver" doesn't work for my video card! So i need to install it manually
[08:55] <om26er> Flannel: yes no gui
[08:55] <pisse> ActionParsnip: xserver-xorg-video-ati then :)
[08:55] <ActionParsnip> sh4rk89: run that from ~ in a terminal
[08:55] <Flannel> om26er: Then you want "command line install"
[08:55] <pisse> ActionParsnip: --purge on this?
[08:56] <om26er> Flannel: will it require internel
[08:56] <om26er> ?
[08:56] <ActionParsnip> sh4rk89: then run: chmod +x ~/Linux-x86_64/185.18.14/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-185.18.14-pkg2.run
[08:56] <sh4rk89> ActionParsnip: are you listen to me?
[08:56] <sh4rk89> I've done ALL this step
[08:56] <Flannel> om26er: Not sure.  I'm not familiar with unetbootin
[08:57] <ActionParsnip> sh4rk89: then it will work. At no point are you to extract the file, its not a step in any guide i can find
[08:57] <om26er> Flannel: actually am talking abt ubuntu alternate
[08:57] <sh4rk89> download the 64bit driver, chmod +x ..., run it in a console with gdm stopped with super user privilege
[08:57] <Flannel> om26er: ah.  No, it won't.
[08:57] <rww> ActionParsnip: to be fair, his system is a hybrid mess of architectures. I wouldn't be surprised if that was the problem.
[08:57] <wizzo50> Hi
[08:57] <ActionParsnip> sh4rk89: yes in console logon
[08:57] <ActionParsnip> rww: possibly
[08:58] <om26er> Flannel: ubuntu installer main menu
[08:58] <sh4rk89> ActionParsnip: ok, thanks however
[08:58] <ActionParsnip> rww: but the driver runs with the kernel so should be ok
[08:58] <ActionParsnip> sh4rk89: can you please provide the output of:  uname -a
[08:58] <om26er> Flannel: it says download installer component
[08:58] <sh4rk89> action: Linux PC 2.6.30 #1 SMP Mon Jul 27 11:51:55 CEST 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[08:58] <rww> !nickspam > DarwinSurvivor
[08:58] <Sandking11114> hey
[08:58] <ActionParsnip> sh4rk89: ok thats cool
[08:59] <wizzo50> When I load Pidgin, why do I have 2 other boxes appear, one that is NickServ and Freenode-connect? How do I get rid of them?
[08:59] <Sandking11114> what's the character limit for the filename+path under ubuntu?
[08:59] <TheMusicGuy1> I have a panel app the size of a single pixel and its too small to move or delete, but it's still restricting the size of other panel apps. How can I remove it?
[09:00] <om26er> Flannel: what do I do?
[09:00] <ActionParsnip> sh4rk89: then the steps should be fine, log off, change session to console, kill all gdm processes and run the binary with: sudo ~/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-185.18.14-pkg2.run    and it will do its thing
[09:01] <rww> Sandking11114: around 256 bytes, assuming you're using ext2, 3, or 4.
[09:01] <wizzo50> When I load Pidgin, why do I have 2 other boxes appear, one that is NickServ and Freenode-connect? How do I get rid of them?
[09:01] <ActionParsnip> wizzo50: block them like users
[09:01] <Saruji> Hey guys, question: Running XP on VirtualBox do I need to install any drivers?  Or will they all just be installed automatically via virtualbox?
[09:01] <sh4rk89> ActionParsnip: I know that it should work, but it's not working!!! Is strange also for me...I recompiled a 64bit kernel perfectly working...so I think I'm able to run a stupid driver installer...
[09:02] <TheMusicGuy1> Also, how do I create a (k)qemu disk image that will expand as necessary, but won't take up lots of actual disk space if the virtual disk space isn't actually in use?
[09:02] <rww> Saruji: it works okay out of the box, but the VirtualBox Guest Additions will install anything that's missing.
[09:02] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[09:02] <rww> oh lord, here we go again.
[09:02] <Saruji> rww sweet thank you!
[09:03] <C-S-B> well ive tried add init.d scrpts to mount my truecrypt partition on boot and that doesnt work...
[09:03] <ActionParsnip> sh4rk89: then when you get an error, write it down and websearch to see what is going on
[09:03] <remyo> How can I edit what starts up with Ubuntu?
[09:04] <rww> !nickspam | DarwinSurvivor_
[09:04] <C-S-B> ActionParsnip: hows your knowledge on encrypted /home partitions?
[09:04] <paul68> when launching my server it hangs when initializing the samba deamons then it continues after about 10 mins how do I solve this
[09:05] <ActionParsnip> C-S-B: never used them, never saw the point. I employ the KISS rule
[09:05] <om26er> Flannel: alternate cd really requires internet??
[09:05] <C-S-B> ActionParsnip: whats that may i ask?
[09:05] <ActionParsnip> C-S-B: Keep It Simple, Stupid
[09:05] <rww> om26er: once again, the alternate CD doesn't require internet.
[09:05] <sh4rk89> ActionParsnip: if I'm here it's because I'm not able to find anything on the web...thanks however!
[09:05] <ActionParsnip> C-S-B: plus i dont wear a tinfoil hat
[09:06] <C-S-B> ActionParsnip: lol, i go again that rule as much as possible :P KICS if you like
[09:06] <Qu4R0w> janisoza1r: alop2
[09:06] <ActionParsnip> C-S-B: CS?
[09:06] <om26er> rww but it won't go further unless I give it my lan cable
[09:07] <sh4rk89> ActionParsnip: I've to go, I'll come back in the afternoon, hope to find you...I'll provide the output of the commands If you don't believe me :)
[09:07] <sh4rk89> bye
[09:07] <C-S-B> ActionParsnip:  keep it complicated, stupid
[09:07] <Qu4R0w> my gnome was corrupted..i open gnome,at startup,i get dioalog box said=unable to * tray..something like that
[09:07] <om26er> rww:  please help
[09:08] <ActionParsnip> C-S-B: makes life harder, i'm not too down with that, hence linux :)
[09:08] <paul68> which server version is better the 8.04 or the 9.04
[09:08] <Qu4R0w> how to fix??i cant move my open window and there is no minimize,exit button in right top corner
[09:08] <ActionParsnip> Qu4R0w: if you make a new user in root recovery console and add it to the admin group, you can log on as that and troubleshoot
[09:08] <om26er> rww now as I am booting from usb it gives the error cd rom was not detected
[09:09] <rww> paul68: 8.04, unless you're okay with having to upgrade your server once a year
[09:09] <Qu4R0w> ActionParsnip: so i nid make new user?
[09:10] <rww> om26er: oh, you're booting from USB? Yeah, alternate CD + USB = problems.
[09:10] <ActionParsnip> paul68: both are fine, 8.04 will be supported longer so I'd go for that
[09:10] <om26er> rww: but I don't have a external cd rom
[09:11] <ActionParsnip> Qu4R0w: adduser tester; useradd -G admin tester; passwd tester
[09:11] <rww> om26er: hit ctrl-alt-f2 and do "mount -t vfat /dev/sdc1 /cdrom". That might get it working.
[09:11] <ActionParsnip> Qu4R0w: will make you a user named tester
[09:11] <rww> om26er: (change sdc to whatever your USB device is)
[09:11] <ActionParsnip> Qu4R0w: it can also use sudo & gksudo
[09:11] <paul68> ActionParsnip: ok however I get an error at starting up when starting the samba deamons it keeps on hanging for 10 mins and then goes on
[09:11] <Qu4R0w> ActionParsnip: i can del that user after all ok right?
[09:11] <ActionParsnip> Qu4R0w: change the name if you wish
[09:11] <paul68> ActionParsnip: how to solve this any thoughts
[09:12] <wizzo50> How do you edit what starts up when Ubuntu is loaded?
[09:12] <ActionParsnip> Qu4R0w: sure, one you get a desktop you can look at whats going on, you may have to sacrifice .gnome and .gconf based folders in your original users home
[09:12] <om26er> -rww now it says failed to copy from cd-rom
[09:12] <ActionParsnip> Qu4R0w: to strip gnome back to default settings ut will give you a successful logon
[09:12] <ActionParsnip> !startup | wizzo50
[09:12] <ActionParsnip> !boot | wizzo50
[09:13] <Qu4R0w> ActionParsnip: i try open gnome now
[09:13] <rww> om26er: which version of Ubuntu are you trying to install? 8.04, 8.10, 9.04, etc...
[09:13] <pisse> ActionParsnip: Thank you for your help :) got into the loginscreen now doing sudo apt-get remove --purge fglrx-* and sudo apt-get --purge remove xorg-driver-fglrx linux-restricted-modules-generic and then reinstalling linux-restricted-modules-generic. I could  also login but I got an error when panel tried to add fastuserswitchapplet, so I guess I'll have to install that again.. I found this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org
[09:13] <om26er> rww: 9.04
[09:14] <wizzo50> ActionParsnip: WHere is that, !Startup or !boot?
[09:14] <ActionParsnip> pisse: nice, glad you hit the gold
[09:14] <ActionParsnip> wizzo50: they launch ubottu to make a noise, read whats underneath when i triggered her
[09:14] <Rada_> halp
[09:15] <Naruto_pr0> hi, how can i upgrad firefox 3 to 3.5,i have just downloaded an archive from off site - "firefox-3.5.rc.tar.gz", but I don't know how to install it
[09:15] <Rada_> Ubuntu won't ask me for my password to my ssh key.
[09:15] <Rada_> It just asks every time i connect to an ssh server
[09:15] <wizzo50> ActionParsnip: I don't know what you are saying there
[09:15] <paul68> ActionParsnip: ok however I get an error at starting up when starting the samba deamons it keeps on hanging for 10 mins and then goes on how do I go arround this any thoughts?
[09:15] <Slart> !ff35 | Naruto_pr0
[09:16] <kraut> moin
[09:16] <Naruto_pr0> thanks
[09:16] <ActionParsnip> wizzo50: !startup and !boot mean nothing to humans, they make ubottu say stuff
[09:16] <ActionParsnip> !startup > wizzo50
[09:16] <ActionParsnip> !boot > wizzo50
[09:16] <Qu4R0w> ActionParsnip: cant..also same with my eisted user
[09:17] <rww> om26er: Okay. It looks like you might have to pass "cdrom-detect/try-usb=true" as a boot option, but I have no idea of how you'd do that on unetbootin-created USB sticks.
[09:17] <ActionParsnip> Qu4R0w: then you have a system wide issue if it is affecting fresh users
[09:17] <ActionParsnip> Qu4R0w: you are booting to recvery root console to create it right?
[09:17] <Qu4R0w> ActionParsnip: i nid del .gnome?
[09:17] <wizzo50> ActionParsnip: What?
[09:17] <rww> om26er: the issue you're running into is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cdrom-detect/+bug/234185
[09:17] <ActionParsnip> wizzo50: did yuoget 2 messages from ubottu?
[09:17] <Qu4R0w> ActionParsnip: i dun know..i am not sure
[09:18] <wizzo50> ActionParsnip: No
[09:18] <ActionParsnip> Qu4R0w: you need to press esc when grub loads, select recovery mode, then select root
[09:18] <ActionParsnip> wizzo50: ok, watch the screen
[09:18] <ActionParsnip> !startup | wizzo50
[09:18] <om26er> rww: so?
[09:18] <Qu4R0w> ActionParsnip: so,i boot into all fresh?
[09:18] <rww> om26er: so what?
[09:18] <ActionParsnip> wizzo50: see how ubottu said some stuff to you?
[09:18] <paul68> ActionParsnip: did you see my last question?
[09:19] <ActionParsnip> Qu4R0w: no, root recovery mode, then run that command i gave to make the fresh user
[09:19] <AdvoWork> hi there. im trying to ssh to something, i normally do ssh user@ip but ive changed the ssh port from default to 9002. but now i cant ssh to it by doing ssh user@ip.  any ideas please?
[09:19] <wizzo50> ActionParsnip: All I see on here is others chatting
[09:19] <ActionParsnip> paul68: i'm helping 2 users here man, sorry
[09:19] <rww> om26er: I just said, figure out how to pass that boot option. Maybe someone else knows how to do that =/
[09:19] <paul68> ActionParsnip: no worries you want me to post again?
[09:19] <rww> AdvoWork: ssh -p 9002 user@ip
[09:19] <Qu4R0w> ActionParsnip: i see..u are trying ask me to make new fresh user right?
[09:19] <ActionParsnip> wizzo50: so you dodnt see this: http://pastebin.com/d55525001
[09:19] <wizzo50> ActionParsnip: Are you talking about under Ubuntu Servers?
[09:20] <om26er> can anyone help me with this line on alternate cd   cdrom-detect/try-usb=true
[09:20] <ActionParsnip> Qu4R0w: yes, as yours may have a damaged gnome profile
[09:20] <Rada_> Help! Ubuntu refuses to ask start ssh-agent at boot, forcing me to type my billion-char password five hundred times a minute. How to fix? id_dsa and authorized_keys are in place and have correct permissions.
[09:20] <paul68> ActionParsnip: ok however I get an error at starting up when starting the samba deamons it keeps on hanging for 10 mins and then goes on how do I go arround this any thoughts?
[09:20] <ActionParsnip> wizzo50: so you have no x server?
[09:20] <bazhang> wizzo50, do you have a support question?
[09:20] <rww> Rada_: which version of Ubuntu are you using?
[09:20] <Rada_> 9.04
[09:20] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup wizzo50
[09:20] <ActionParsnip> paul68: check the samba logs, see whats going on
[09:20] <Qu4R0w> ActionParsnip: then i only can use/login to new user i made after this?
[09:20] <wizzo50> ActionParsnip: No, I don't see that at all on here
[09:21] <paul68> ActionParsnip: ok
[09:21] <Rada_> rww: 9.04 :)
[09:21] <mechdave> G'day all, is there any virtualisation software I can boot my win XP partition from inside Ubuntu and have XP run in a window?
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> Qu4R0w: not at all, you can have 1000 users if you wish
[09:21] <wizzo50> ActionParsnip: x-server, no not that I know of
[09:21] <rww> Rada_: ah. I was reading about a bug that was doing that, but it's only in 9.10. Never mind me :(
[09:21] <Rada_> rww: Could you link to it anyway?
[09:21] <richardcavell> mechdave: yes there is
[09:21] <Qu4R0w> ActionParsnip: my existed user=zer0..if i make new user=tester,my zer0 is always/still corrupted
[09:21] <richardcavell> mechdave: do you know about VirtualBox
[09:22] <Qu4R0w> ActionParsnip: ?*
[09:22] <wizzo50> ActionParsnip: Do I need that? Then what is an x-server that your talking about?
[09:22] <mechdave> richardcavell, Nope, but I daresay I will look into it now :) Cheers
[09:22] <ActionParsnip> wizzo50: ok then thats different, you'll need to look into update-rc.d to make services and scripts run at boot
[09:22] <bazhang> wizzo50, what chat client are you using
[09:22] <syntax_> VirtualBox owns me :)
[09:22] <rww> Rada_: I don't have it on hand, and like I said, it was 9.10 specific. The workaround was installing the "seahorse-plugins" package or something.
[09:22] <richardcavell> mechdave: it's in the universe repository
[09:23] <Rada_> rww: Oh, okay. Thanks.
[09:23] <wizzo50> bazhang: XChat-GNOME IRC Chat
[09:23] <bazhang> wizzo50, you have an xserver then
[09:23] <Alex|ubuntu> hey
[09:23] <ActionParsnip> Qu4R0w: yes but you will be able to look at what is going on with the original user and you can rename the .gnome* and .gconf folders if needs be, when you next log in you will get a stock gnome profile but aveing the extra user name is handy for this as yu can work in a graphical envionment
[09:23] <Alex|ubuntu> i am in ubuntu 8.04
[09:23] <AdvoWork> rww, i get connection refused on that now?
[09:23] <Alex|ubuntu> i try to do "su""
[09:23] <Alex|ubuntu> i enter my password i used for this account
[09:23] <ActionParsnip> Alex|ubuntu: use sudo -i   instead
[09:23] <Alex|ubuntu> it says fail
[09:24] <Alex|ubuntu> ok
[09:24] <wizzo50> bazhang: Then why didn't I see what ActionParsnip was talking about?
[09:24] <ActionParsnip> Alex|ubuntu: root is disabled for a great many security reasons
[09:24] <rww> AdvoWork: is there a firewall on the ssh server? did you reconfigure it when you changed the port?
[09:24] <Qu4R0w> ActionParsnip: i see..let me try repair my gnome fisrt..if cant,i will make new user as u said
[09:24] <bazhang> wizzo50, no idea. what is your support question.
[09:24] <Qu4R0w> ActionParsnip: i have problem with grub and boot loader also
[09:25] <ActionParsnip> !grub | Qu4R0w
[09:25] <mechdave> richardcavell, Thanks, will be installing in a few mins
[09:25] <wizzo50> bazhang: How to access your startup programs when you load Ubuntu
[09:25] <richardcavell> mechdave: look into guest additions.  Once you have Windows XP installed, you install 'guest additions' within XP and it makes it work much better
[09:25] <bazhang> wizzo50, read the link I give you
[09:25] <Qu4R0w> ActionParsnip: no..i already add to grub but have a problem
[09:25] <Qu4R0w> ActionParsnip: let me show u my menu.1st
[09:26] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup <--------- wizzo50
[09:26] <mohd> guys is the internal wifi card at laptop is tronger than the usb one ?????
[09:26] <mohd> stronger
[09:26] <ActionParsnip> mohd: depends on the chip
[09:26] <AdvoWork> rww, not reconfigured anything, can i tell if i need to?
[09:26] <ActionParsnip> mohd: and settings
[09:26] <richardcavell> mohd: what sort of wifi hardware are you talking about?
[09:26] <mohd> internal intel
[09:27] <mohd> iw2100
[09:27] <Qu4R0w> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/235018/
[09:27] <ActionParsnip> Qu4R0w: ok
[09:27] <rww> AdvoWork: if you have physical access to the ssh server, try running that command on it locally. if it works there and not remotely, it's likely a firewall issue.
[09:27] <mohd> u mean if linksys usb better than internal intel ???
[09:31] <Saruji_> Hello, does anyone know how to check what audio drivers you are using, (alsa, pulseaudio, etc?)
[09:31] <ActionParsnip> DougM: make sure you get wine from the wine repo
[09:31] <Qu4R0w> ActionParsnip: i try reboot
[09:31] <ActionParsnip> Saruji_: ps -ef | grep -i pulse
[09:31] <Saruji_> DougM, they try Wine, it works great
[09:31] <mohd> guys i have bt4 not working i made it at both the dvd cd and the virtual machine and both is faked
[09:31] <Saruji_> ActionParsnip: thank you
[09:31] <AdvoWork> rww, i think it may be a firewall issue then. can i edit it to allow access to that new port?
[09:31] <ActionParsnip> Saruji_: if you see it, you are running pulse
[09:32] <mohd> anyone have bt4 working good ?
[09:32] <DougM> Im really new to Ubuntu actully linux in general.. its only been like 5 hours for me.  Iv used Macs my hole life but recently had to install Ubuntu.  Ill head to #winehq see if they can help me.  Yes i have wine installed
[09:32] <bazhang> mohd, and Ubuntu is the host, or the client
[09:32] <mohd> host
[09:32] <ikonia> mohd: bt4 ?
[09:32] <mohd> yes
[09:32] <bazhang> mohd, #remote-exploit for bt issues
[09:32] <rww> AdvoWork: Yeah. If you know how you set up your firewall in the first place, you can just do the same thing, switching 22 to 9002.
[09:32] <Saruji_> ActionParsnip: ah ok, see it I am sweet thank you
[09:32] <mohd> mmm
[09:32] <ActionParsnip> DougM:  is it from the wine repo and not the official ubuntu repo?
[09:32] <bazhang> mohd, bt is ubuntu-based, NOT ubuntu
[09:32] <DougM> ActionParsnip: oh ok.. ill look into it now.  Thanks for the help.
[09:32] <ikonia> ahhh back track
[09:33] <quizme> hi, i can't get two patterns to run with expect..... is anybody familiar with the linux command expect?
[09:33] <ActionParsnip> DougM: http://www.winehq.org/download/deb
[09:33] <wizzo50> ActionParsnip: What update with sudo update-rc.d where you talking about?
[09:33] <DougM> Actionarsnip: cool thanks
[09:33] <AdvoWork> rww, i dont lol, its standard setup
[09:33] <ActionParsnip> wizzo50: you can add and remove startup items with update-rc.d
[09:33] <mohd> #i hear it is openuse based
[09:33] <Saruji_> DougM all you gotta do is pop in the disc and install via wine
[09:33] <bazhang> mohd, its not, and its offtopic here
[09:33] <mohd> ok
[09:34] <rww> AdvoWork: okay. Are the two computers connected to the same internal network, or are they across the internet?
[09:34] <mohd> bazhang what is the main country for ubuntu
[09:35] <mohd> ???
[09:35] <bazhang> mohd, there is none
[09:35] <ActionParsnip> mohd: there is no main coutry,
[09:35] <ActionParsnip> mohd: what is the main country of windows?
[09:35] <mohd> usa
[09:35] <mohd> as bill gates
[09:36] <AdvoWork> rww theres 4 servers and 20 pcs, the pc in question is our file storage pc, thats the only one with a problem. if i change the port back to 22, it works.
[09:36] <ActionParsnip> mohd: oh so yu want to know where is it made
[09:36] <bazhang> mohd, offtopic chat in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[09:36] <ActionParsnip> mohd: thats not the main country
[09:36] <mohd> yes
[09:36] <Nick_Meister> hey guys why does this line not work ? sudo adduser –system –shell /bin/sh –gecos ‘git version control’ –group –disabled-password –home /var/git git
[09:36] <ActionParsnip> mohd: microsoft have headquarters all over the world, not just the usa
[09:37] <mohd> what offtopic mean ??
[09:37] <mohd> not allowed to talk about ?
[09:37] <wizzo50> ActionParsnip: For like what you pastebin me and was talking about earlier is what I am talking about when you typed !startup and !boot and there was suppose to be that under it
[09:37] <Qu4R0w> ActionParsnip: still same*
[09:37] <mohd> yea but the main company at usa
[09:37] <rww> AdvoWork: if you run "sudo ufw status" on the ssh server, does it say "Status: inactive" or "Status: active"
[09:38] <Qu4R0w> ActionParsnip: also same..8.10,backtrack 4,xp,9.04
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> wizzo50: yes ubottu is made to respond to certain factoids
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> Qu4R0w: does the boot actually do anything?
[09:39] <Qu4R0w> ActionParsnip: no i think..nothing happen
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> mohd: it means, this is a support channel. Asking about the country of origin of ubuntu is not an ubuntu support question
[09:39] <hxc__> does ubuntu have somekind of search stuff?
[09:39] <Qu4R0w> ActionParsnip: but i can see some small flash i guess.something like trying to load*
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> Qu4R0w: its not hurting anything then, if its selected it does nothing. I wouldnt sweat it
[09:39] <mohd> :) i know
[09:39] <hxc__> i unarchived 1 folder but i cant find it
[09:40] <mohd> bt w8ing bazhang to answer :)
[09:40] <Qu4R0w> ActionParsnip: but how can i have 8.10??i use 9.04 with 2.6.28-13-generic
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> mohd: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canonical_Ltd.   says its London
[09:41] <rww> mohd: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntumembers/+map says it's worldwide
[09:41] <DougM> for photoshop couldnt i just partin a drive and booot from from the photoshop cd on the drive?
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> Qu4R0w: thats only a text file, you could change it to say Ubuntu 400.3000004343  and it makes no difference to the installed system
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> DougM: no as photoshop needs an OS to run it
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> DougM: you will use the PS CD to install it
[09:42] <Qu4R0w> ActionParsnip: i press 8.10 and it boot to my bt4..my boot/geub/menu.1st not have title set=8.10
[09:42] <DougM> ActionParsnip.. yeah thats what i thought i was just wondering
[09:42] <Promythyus> hey all
[09:42] <Promythyus> I got a quick question about dhcp if someone doesn't mind helping
[09:43] <ActionParsnip> Qu4R0w: if it really bothers you, you can rename menu.lst, boot to a live CD and recreate the file by reinstalling grub but its really not worth it just for the sake of a line on a screen that lasts all of 3 seconds
[09:43] <ActionParsnip> !ask | Promythyus
[09:44] <Log> re al
[09:44] <Log> * all
[09:44] <wizzo50> !boot
[09:44] <Log> any one from RUssia?
[09:44] <Qu4R0w> ActionParsnip: let me ask remote-exploit coz i think i is bt4 problem
[09:44] <bazhang> Log, in #ubuntu-ru
[09:44] <Promythyus> !ask How does one make DHCP3-Server start on startup without me having to log into my account?
[09:45] <wizzo50> ! boot
[09:45] <ares4you> Hy
[09:45] <Nick_Meister> hey guys im trying to follow this tutorial and i do not understand how he is creating that git user http://blog.agdunn.net/?p=277
[09:45] <Nick_Meister> he does something funky
[09:45] <Nick_Meister> sudo adduser
[09:45] <Nick_Meister> –system
[09:45] <Nick_Meister> –shell /bin/sh
[09:45] <Nick_Meister> –gecos ‘git version control’
[09:45] <Nick_Meister> –group
[09:45] <FloodBot2> Nick_Meister: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:45] <erUSUL> Promythyus: use /etc/network/interfaces instead of networkmanager
[09:46] <ares4you> who can help me ( ubuntu developing team )
[09:46] <ares4you> ?
[09:46] <bazhang> ares4you, what is the question
[09:46] <erUSUL> !ask | ares4you
[09:46] <NET||abuse> hey is it just me or did they finally take the last.fm app out of banshee ? ? :)
[09:47] <wizzo50> !ask | wizzo50
[09:47] <ares4you> I am ( was ) in ubuntu developing team ( testing team )
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> Nick_Meister: not sure, i'd contact the author
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> ares4you: try #ubuntu-devel
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> ares4you: if it is a ubuntu coding issue
[09:49] <crunchbangnewuse> hi all ... running crunchbang linux from live cd and trying to follow instructions to install to usb via terminal, but one line of command is not working...can i paste the code here to see if there is a mistake?
[09:49] <Nick_Meister> ActionParsnip, dding the git user may cause problems if you copy/paste the code. I was getting the error “adduser: Only one or two names are allowed.” This was because the blog turned single-quotes into fancy-quote and double-hyphens into single, elongated hyphens.,   ---- thats one of the answer what is that guy talking about?
[09:49] <bazhang> crunchbangnewuse, #crunchbang for support
[09:49] <om26er1> Flannel: you told me a command to mount cdrom that was like mount -f vfat /dev ca you repeat it
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> Nick_Meister: not sure, ask him
[09:49] <crunchbangnewuse> ah damn i entered the wrong channel sorry lol
[09:49] <crunchbangnewuse> #crunchbang
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> Nick_Meister: or her
[09:50] <Log> no one in #ubuntu-ru )))
[09:50] <Log> LOL
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> hilarious....(?)
[09:50] <bazhang> Log, sure there are
[09:50] <crunchbangnewuse> i dont see the crunchbang channel
[09:50] <bazhang> Log, please take chat elsewhere
[09:51] <Log> i dont see chanell #ubuntu-ru
[09:51] <bazhang> crunchbangnewuse, /join #crunchbang   its there
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> crunchbangnewuse: type:   /j #crunchbang
[09:51] <Log> only #ubuntu-ru-offtopic )
[09:51] <bazhang> Log, /join #ubuntu-ru
[09:51] <Axz> Hi there guys, iḿ using GDecrypt for my encrypted partitions but its saying "No truecrypt support available (not found)!" how to fix that?
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> crunchbangnewuse: there are 50 users on the channel
[09:51] <ares4you> Hi! I am ( was ) from Ubuntu developing team.  I had one big problem with  network manager ( i coldn`t acces internet ) I want to help developing ubuntu but I don`t want to test that packages with network
[09:51] <lateralus_> a
[09:51] <Log> o
[09:51] <Log> 10x
[09:52] <om26er1> Flannel: please?
[09:52] <om26er1> Flannel: mount -f? vfat /dev/sdb1 /cdrom
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> !mount | om26er1
[09:54] <om26er1>   ActionParsnip  I have a problem in alternate install from usb and he told a command to mount the usb into cdrom folder
[09:54] <nottinman> i need some help. my graphics driver install is b0rken
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> om26er1: then mount it, the guide will show you how
[09:55] <hxc__> how can i open started process with putty? i start srcds_run with putty and close putty, and how can i open that procces again?
[09:55] <paul68> ActionParsnip: since my server install about 2 years back I played arround and tried to install several packages which I don't use anymore, what is the easiest way to do a cleanup without interfearing to much with my daily operations?
[09:56] <ares4you> can someone help me?
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> paul68: i suggest:  dpkg -l | less
[09:56] <Axz> Hi there guys, iḿ using GDecrypt for my encrypted partitions but its saying "No truecrypt support available (not found)!" how to fix that?
[09:56] <bazhang> ares4you, to develop Ubuntu?
[09:56] <paul68> ActionParsnip: what does that do exactly?
[09:56] <Axz> Because its not in packages system
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> paul68: make a note of what you don't need by reading the list, then during your maintenance window, remove the apps
[09:56] <ares4you> yes
[09:57] <ActionParsnip> paul68: dpkg -l   lists all installed packages, less just makes it so it doesnt scroll like crazy
[09:57] <nottinman> anyone care to help me fix broken grphics driver install
[09:57] <ActionParsnip> nottinman: which driver
[09:57] <ares4you> i want to test packages but without network...packages
[09:57] <bazhang> ares4you, you wish to do packaging or something else
[09:57] <nottinman> nvidia 180
[09:58] <paul68> ActionParsnip: or I do dpkg -l > application.txt should also work
[09:58] <ares4you> bazhang: just testing
[09:58] <ActionParsnip> nottinman: if you run:  sudo apt-get --purge remove nvidia*; sudo apt-get --purge autoremove; sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg        and reboot, you will get a failsasfe display
[09:58] <ActionParsnip> paul68: if you wish
[09:58] <paul68> ActionParsnip: thanks
[09:58] <nottinman> ok. thanks
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> paul68: you can then nano etc the file, or read it via file share on another system
[09:59] <ManateeLazyCat> Hi all, i installed VirtualBox 3.0.3.0.2 on Ubuntu 8.10, and run Windows XP in it, i found Windows XP is very slow, Why?
[09:59] <imgoofygoober2> maybe because its running inside ubuntu.
[10:00] <om26er1> can any tell me a way to install ubuntu-alternate cd from usb
[10:00] <diddy> What are the 3 scripting languages that every Linux system admin must know and in what priority order?
[10:00] <bazhang> !ot > diddy
[10:00] <ActionParsnip> nottinman: you cn thn reconfigure video drivers from fesh, you may also have ~/.nvidia-settings-rc which you should also delete
[10:00] <Pitcher> Hi all is ther any way i could try, to install softwares in ubuntu offline. I mean downloading packages, then creating repositories locally and use apt-get
[10:00] <pisse> Anyone here who's got any good experience from the "ATI binary X.Org driver" found in "Add/Remove..." ? I have a ATI Radeon 9600 and I had to remove it in order to get my comp to work again.. =/ It would be nice to have drivers thought :)
[10:01] <BigMike> where did you get that virtual box ?
[10:01] <bazhang> !aptoncd | Pitcher
[10:01] <ActionParsnip> Pitcher: try aptoncd
[10:01] <BigMike> ManateeLazyCat where did you get that virtual box?
[10:01] <diddy> What are the 3 scripting languages that every Ubuntu system admin must know and in what priority order?
[10:01] <om26er1> ubuntu alternate install form usb any 1 can help
[10:02] <ManateeLazyCat> BigMike: Yep.
[10:02] <bazhang> diddy, ask in #ubuntu-offtopic NOT here
[10:02] <Pitcher> Thanks, how can i see the packages downloaded by apt-get
[10:02] <diddy> bazhang, it is not offtopic.
[10:02] <bazhang> diddy, it certainly is. please take it there
[10:02] <Myrtti> diddy: opinion polls are
[10:02] <BigMike> the ones in the pakage managers isnt going to work likely it didnt for me you have to go to the vbox website and get it there
[10:02] <diddy> Myrtti, it is statistics.
[10:02] <ares4you> bazhang, I think I can`t test just some packages....
[10:03] <ares4you> am I right?
[10:03] <Myrtti> !best > diddy
[10:03] <om26er1> 1300 people and no1 knows the answer acp!
[10:04] <BigMike> my vbox wouldnt run till i downloaded either the whole virtual box or some updates from suns website
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> om26er1: boot to the usb stick and it will run through the install
[10:04] <om26er1> ActionParsnip: no it say cd rom not detected
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> om26er1: make sure you md5 check the iso you created the stick with
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> om26er1: then websearch the exact error you get to see what the fix is
[10:05] <NoNo1> Hi
[10:05] <jezi22> guys, i am trying to save a .tgz file but it is written in codes. how can i save it?
[10:06] <jezi22> or extract it.
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> jezi22: tar zxvf <filename>
[10:06] <jezi22> even it is written in codes?
[10:07] <HotShowers> does anyone know a tool to query a domains dns or a records?
[10:07] <Myrtti> jezi22: written in codes, what do you mean?
[10:07] <NoNo1> I'm tryin to convert a windows thunderbird to a ubuntu one :) the problem is that it seems the files are not the same. In windows i have tbb and tbi files which are not present in ubuntu. Can anyone help me please ?
[10:07] <jezi22> the file is encoded..
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> HotShowers: nslookup
[10:07] <Myrtti> jezi22: if it's encrypted, then you need to find out how it is encrypted
[10:08] <kindofabuzz> NoNo1, are you talking about the profile or the actual installation?
[10:08] <HotShowers> thanks, giving a go now
[10:08] <NoNo1> kindofabuzz: the profile
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> NoNo1: http://email.about.com/od/mozillathunderbirdtips/qt/et_backup_prof.htm
[10:09] <kindofabuzz> NoNo1, probably nothing you can do. totally different OS
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> HotShowers: works with ip and name, is a defacto standard command
[10:09] <NoNo1> ActionParsnip: i'm trying that thank you
[10:09] <NoNo1> kindofabuzz: huuuuu :(
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> kindofabuzz: the data files are the same so can be transferred
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> kindofabuzz: the app isnt transferred, only the files holding the emails
[10:13] <Sajam> hello, any recommendation on how to install asterisk on ubuntu
[10:13] <gartral> ok! i just experienced a head in a drive... the drive is still responsive, what log can i check too see damage done?
[10:13] <bazhang> Sajam, sudo apt-get install asterisk
[10:14] <extor> is ubuntu server taking off yet? What does it offer over debian?
[10:14] <phrostbite> I was wondering what do I do when something i am installing says its conflicting with something else and won't install?
[10:15] <clong0912> 额。
[10:16] <bazhang> !cn | clong0912
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> extor: the ubuntu community support is pretty decent
[10:16] <extor> ok..what else besides that--feature wise?
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> extor: afaik, its the same. tbf, if all you need is a file sharing server then any distro will do
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> extor: what sort of server is it?
[10:17] <ares4you> what is doing computer janitor in developing team ( testing )? Can be used to reconfigure my system?
[10:17] <Slart> extor: this might be worth reading http://www.ubuntu.com/community/ubuntustory/Debian
[10:17] <Promythyus> I am back
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> extor: if you are comfortable with debian server then i'd say stick with it
[10:17] <Promythyus> still can't get dhcp to work before I log in
[10:18] <Slart> extor: I think one the biggest differences is the release schedule when it comes to new packages and such
[10:20] <phrostbite> I was wondering what do I do when something i am installing says its conflicting with something else and won't install?
[10:20] <Sajam> bazhang: Thanks for your reply, what i am looking for, i don't something automatically, i want to see and know all components and dependencies, also i don't want everytime to go for internet for installation, so i want to download it and install it on every server without internet
[10:23] <NeoTheOne> Hello all!!
[10:23] <HotShowers> ActionParsnip: how do i know what nameserver nslookup is using
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> HotShowers: its part of the output
[10:24] <ares4you> Can I repair my network without internet connection in one system with ubuntu 9.10 ( developing )
[10:24] <macd> HotShowers, its defined in /etc/resolv.conf as well
[10:24] <bazhang> ares4you, #ubuntu+1 for karmic questions
[10:25] <HotShowers> my ISP nameserver is caching
[10:25] <HotShowers> can i use a public one such as 4.2.2.2?
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> HotShowers: http://pastebin.com/d43199ed3
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> HotShowers: my dns server is localhost in this output, hence 127.0.0.1
[10:26] <Promythyus> !ask dhcp3-server at boot
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> Promythyus: try installing bum and running gksudo bum
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> Promythyus: you may be able to delay dhcp functionality
[10:27] <randy2009> Hello, i added a user (nagios) to sudoers file, it works. If i setup a ssh connections (nagios@<ip> ---> nagios@<ip>) and do sudo <commandline> then it also works. But if i do "ssh <ip> sudo commandline" i won't get it working. How can i fix it?
[10:28] <Name141> After I put Jaunty on my flash drive, will I be able to use the live session to also install? Or just for running a live session ?
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> randy2009: the command with the name works as you are authenticating as that user, shich has the rights to run stuff
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> Name141: you should be able to install with it
[10:29] <Name141> ActionParsnip: OK, and this would be faster than just a common CD-ROM install ?
[10:29] <Qu4R0w> my hardware on ubuntu is fine but in bt4,my mouse not work :(
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> Name141: depends on how fast the usb transfer it compared to the cd
[10:29] <Promythyus> ActionParsnip: thanks, I'll restart & see if it worked
[10:29] <randy2009> ActionParsnip: yes, but i want it to work as ssh <ip> sudo commandline
[10:29] <randy2009> how can i do that?
[10:30] <Name141> ActionParsnip: anyway possible to use the CD , while in windows, to install to the flash drive?  Or do I have to boot to the live CD Session first?
[10:31] <vikas> hello there
[10:32] <vikas> i need some help with grub
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> randy2009: you can't. linux needs a username to run the process as, this determines what access the process has
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> Name141: you can boot the cd then select make usb startup disk
[10:33] <Name141> ActionParsnip: it's not possible to just do it within windows?
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> Name141: you can do it in windows using the iso file
[10:34] <Name141> ActionParsnip: I don't have the ISO
[10:34] <randy2009> ActionParsnip: it has a username (public/private keys)
[10:34] <vikas> I have an EeeBox with windows XP installed and also an SD card with Ubuntu installed, i have installed grub on HD and the /boot is on SD card. know i want grub to load at startup and search for SD card for ubuntu if not found then resume with windows. please tell me how can i do that?
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> Name141: you can make one out of the cd
[10:35] <Qu4R0w> ActionParsnip: my hardware not work in bt4..mouse also not work
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> Name141: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/usb-xubuntu-904-persistent-install-windows/
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> randy2009: thats not a user name, thats a key pairing. i don't think its possible
[10:36] <Qu4R0w> ActionParsnip: my hardware not work in bt4..mouse also not work
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> Name141: it says xubuntu but you can basically use any Linux iso you wish
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> Qu4R0w: ive not heard of bt4
[10:36] <Promythyus> ActionParsnip: Sorry to bother you again, i didn't manage to get it working. I'll explain the situation better; right now, i have to log into my account to get dhcp3-server to give out IP addresses. I want it so that I don't have to log in, I can live my machine sitting at the login screen
[10:36] <Qu4R0w> ActionParsnip: backtrack 4 or what another it mean?
[10:36] <bazhang> Qu4R0w, that is supported in #remote-exploit
[10:37] <Cryptorchild> vikas: why not place the /boot partition on HD?
[10:37] <Qu4R0w> bazhang: sorry2..
[10:37] <vikas> please tell me how do i do that
[10:37] <cola> i need help with ati x1650 driver for 9.04
[10:37] <vikas> will just copying /boot on HD work?
[10:37] <Qu4R0w> cola:what probs?
[10:37] <soycamo> Can I rip a CD through an Ubuntu VM?
[10:37] <cola> i cant install driver
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> soycamo: sure
[10:38] <Qu4R0w> cola: what u mean cant?
[10:38] <cola> when i install fglrx my screen is a mess
[10:38] <Cryptorchild> vikas, sure
[10:38] <cola> some lines appear
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> !ati | cola
[10:38] <Qu4R0w> cola: i not familiar with ATI
[10:39] <sinelaw> hi, my computer keeps using Mesa
[10:39] <sinelaw> why and how can i fix it?
[10:39] <cola> ok
[10:39] <sinelaw> (i have an ATI radeon x1200)
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> Qu4R0w: if its not an offical ubuntu release fromcanonical then its not supported here
[10:39] <vikas> So just to be clear, if i copy /boot on first partition on HD the grub will load and 1st it will search for SD card where Ubuntu is installed, if couldnt find then will bott windows. Am i right >
[10:39] <cola> sinelaw how did u isntalled mesa?
[10:39] <Qu4R0w> ActionParsnip: what it mean?
[10:39] <sinelaw> cola, i don't recall installing it
[10:40] <cola> so how can i get it?
[10:40] <Myrtti> Qu4R0w: it's not ubuntu, kubuntu or xubuntu, so it's not ours to support
[10:40] <sinelaw> cola, are you trying to help me? mesa is opengl in software, which i DON'T want to use
[10:41] <sinelaw> I'm trying to figure out how to make the computer work with the hardware GLX
[10:41] <Qu4R0w> Myrtti: i think u say about bt4
[10:41] <sinelaw> does anybody know?
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> Qu4R0w: bt4 is not xubuntu, kubuntu or xubuntu, its some 3rd party derivitive which means we cannot assure it follows all that canonical have set out, it could be based on it and yet be completely different so is not supported here
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> Qu4R0w: #ubuntu+1 is where you should go
[10:42] <Myrtti> if even than
[10:42] <Myrtti> that
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> Qu4R0w: we also don't support mint, ultimate, moonos and all the other spinoffs
[10:43] <qincheng> ghk
[10:43] <Qu4R0w> ActionParsnip: ok..ty act
[10:43] <bazhang> Qu4R0w, #remote-exploit for bt4 support as I said earlier
[10:43] <qincheng> jkl
[10:43] <bazhang> !cn | qincheng
[10:43] <qincheng> 中文？
[10:43] <bazhang> qincheng, see above
[10:43] <qincheng> what？
[10:44] <bazhang> qincheng, /join #ubuntu-cn
[10:44] <jelg> I am trying to install Cinelerra on Ubuntu 9.0 - anyone here managed to do that?
[10:44] <indus> bazhang: ar you chinese?
[10:44] <jelg> 9.04 that is
[10:44] <qincheng> can i speak chanese?
[10:44] <Myrtti> no
[10:44] <qincheng> hoho
[10:44] <bazhang> qincheng, not here
[10:44] <qincheng> why
[10:44] <Myrtti> !english | qincheng
[10:45] <indus> jelg:do you get any errors?
[10:45] <qincheng> yes
[10:45] <jelg> the Cinelerra app does not turn up in the menu
[10:45] <jelg> it appears it only installs the keys for the server
[10:45] <indus> jelg: but it runs in command line?
[10:46] <jelg> indus: nope
[10:46] <indus> jelg: in terminal cinerella?
[10:46] <indus> jelg: did you install it from synaptic?
[10:46] <jelg> according to the instructions it should be available for 9.04: http://cinelerra.org/getting_cinelerra.php#jaunty
[10:47] <qincheng> bye
[10:47] <Slart> mm.. it is available.. I have it installed
[10:47] <Slart> cinelerra, that is
[10:47] <jelg> I do not see any cinelerra packages in the Synaptic package manager either
[10:47] <Promythyus> this is excruciating :/
[10:47] <indus> jelg: so you didnt install it from synaptic?
[10:48] <indus> jelg: have you enabled the universe/multiverse repos?
[10:48] <ares4you> from where can I download an older version of network manager?
[10:48] <indus> universe i believe
[10:48] <Slart> jelg: right on that page you linked to.. it says how to install it
[10:48] <Promythyus> !ask How do I get dhcp3-server to start on boot, without having to log in
[10:48] <Slart> !info cinelerracv
[10:49] <jelg> indues: I used the link http://akirad.cinelerra.org/pool/addakirad.deb
[10:49] <Slart> jelg: the command that starts with "echo deb".... and so on
[10:49] <jelg> indus: also tried the command line on the webpage
[10:49] <jelg> indus: the one starting with wget
[10:50]  * indus wonders why i cant find cinerella in synaptic either
[10:50] <Slart> jelg: then it should show up in synaptic, there are 4 packages.. the names are listed just below the installation text
[10:50] <Slart> indus: I don't think it's available in the repos.. but the cinelerra people have their own repos
[10:50] <jelg> slart: they do not turn up
[10:51] <Slart> jelg: can you show me the output of "sudo apt-get update" ?
[10:51] <jelg> slart: I added "deb http://akirad.cinelerra.org akirad-jaunty main"
[10:51] <Slart> !pastebin | jelg
[10:52] <ares4you> from where can I download an older version of network manager?
[10:52] <Slart> ares4you: packages.ubuntu.com perhaps..
[10:53] <Promythyus> I can't get dhcp3-server to give out IP address until I log in... anyone know how to make it work at boot?
[10:53] <mabi> hi folks, got another quick question: how do i prevent the installer from accessing the mirrors for updated Packages.gz files (i DO want network mirrors set up, just not accessed at install time)?
[10:53] <jelg> slart: http://paste.ubuntu.com/235069/
[10:54] <mabi> is there some preseed value i could use?
[10:54] <jelg> !pastebinit
[10:54] <Slart> jelg: ok, output of "sudo apt-get update; apt-cache search cinelerra" ?
[10:54] <tbaxter> how can I change the default drivers from fglrx to the open source version from the command line? I can't get into X under Karmic alpha 3
[10:54] <funkyHat> Promythyus: you need to assign a static IP for the interface you are providing DHCP on, the reason you have to log in is ubuntu does not connect to the network until you log in normally
[10:54] <bazhang> tbaxter, #ubuntu+1 for karmic
[10:54] <tbaxter> thanks.
[10:55] <Promythyus> funkyHat: I have, eth1 is serving dhcp, and I have it manually set to 10.0.0.1
[10:56] <funkyHat> Promythyus: you might also need to add your network card to the list in /etc/default/dhcp3-server
[10:56] <funkyHat> Promythyus: where did you set it manually to 10.0.0.1?
[10:56] <Roland> whenever i connect a second monitor to my laptop and enable it in " nvidia X server settings ", the gnome panel will freeze( time freezes, right click doesn't work ).. anyone heard of a bug like this?
[10:56] <jelg> slart: http://paste.ubuntu.com/235072/
[10:56] <maxagaz> how to check when the ldap database was changed for the last time ?
[10:57]  * jelg has to leave the computer for a while, sorry
[10:57] <Slart> jelg: there it is.. cinelerracv is one of the packages.. install that one
[10:57] <Promythyus> funkyHat: via system>preferences>network connections
[10:57] <Slart> jelg: just run "sudo apt-get install cinelerracv" and you should be good to go
[10:57] <crunchbang> hi everyone, can anybody here think of a reason why a live cd of a ubuntu distro would pick up wireless just fine but when the live cd has been transferred onto a flashdrive it no longer picks up the wireless device or finds networks to connect to?
[10:58] <indus> jelg: try this http://akirad.cinelerra.org/pool/addakirad.deb
[10:58] <Promythyus> funkyHat: I have INTERFACES="eth1" in my /etc/default/dhcp3-server
[10:58] <funkyHat> Promythyus: can you pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces ?
[10:58] <indus> jelg: but best is use the PPA u have
[10:58] <kkszysiu> hello. Where I can change GDM settings?
[10:58] <indus> jelg: make sure its the PPA for 9.04
[10:59] <funkyHat> kkszysiu: system > administration > login window
[10:59] <Promythyus> funkyHat: http://paste.ubuntu.com/235077/
[11:00] <kkszysiu> funkyHat, something like thart doesnt exist in karmic :P
[11:00] <indus> Slart: there is no cinerella for 9.04 in repos it seems
[11:00] <Slart> indus: nope
[11:00] <indus> Slart: aah maybe you mean, after adding the PPA
[11:00] <funkyHat> you need to specify your network settings there, not in system > prefs > network
[11:00] <Slart> indus: yes.. they have a repository of their own
[11:00] <funkyHat> kkszysiu: you should be asking in #ubuntu+1 then
[11:01] <Cube> hello
[11:01] <indus> hi
[11:01] <funkyHat> Promythyus: see man interfaces for the syntax
[11:01] <Promythyus> funkyHat: Ohhh, ok, thanks
[11:02] <Cube> this is making me really mad: i had a grub error 25 last night, and couldnt boot until i downloaded (with another computer) the latest ubuntu 9.04 and put in on a cd and booted from there. i have a dual boot with windows vista and that ubuntu. now i start my computer again, and again I have ERROR 25. [it might be that it cant mount /root? or something?]
[11:03] <bernardlychan>  anyone know how to get cryptload scheduler working?  cryptload is a download manager but i don't know how to get the scheduler. anyone know?
[11:03] <vikas> Hi i cannot mount my first partition of HD. I get this message. The device '/dev/sda1' doesn't seem to have a valid NTFS
[11:03] <funkyHat> Cube: did you actually repair grub when you were using the live CD?
[11:04] <DougM> what is security like with Ubuntu compared to a mac?  I am a mac user and recently switched to Ubuntu about 5 hours ago.. starting to look into security and just wondering if anyone has any tips.
[11:04] <Cube> funkyHat: i reinsatlled the whole ubuntu
[11:04] <indus> vikas: how are you trying to mount it?
[11:04] <Cube> DougM: hi :P
[11:04] <funkyHat> Cube: Oh I see
[11:04] <bernardlychan>  anyone know how to get cryptload scheduler working?  cryptload is a download manager but i don't know how to get the scheduler. anyone know?
[11:04] <DougM> CUbe: hey.. how you doin
[11:04] <vikas> mount /dev/sda1 /media/windows/ -t ntfs
[11:04] <Cube> funkyHat: how can i repair grub?
[11:05] <bernardlychan>  anyone know how to get cryptload scheduler working?  cryptload is a download manager but i don't know how to get the scheduler. anyone know?
[11:05] <indus> vikas: whats the output of sudo fdisk -l
[11:05] <indus> !paste | vikas
[11:06] <bernardlychan>  anyone know how to get cryptload scheduler working?  cryptload is a download manager but i don't know how to get the scheduler. anyone know?
[11:06] <funkyHat> !grub | Cube
[11:06] <Blizzerand> bernardlychan : YOU NEED TO ASK ONLY ONCE DUDE
[11:06] <Cube> thx
[11:06] <bazhang> bernardlychan, please dont repeat so often
[11:07] <vikas> http://paste.ubuntu.com/235083/
[11:07] <DougM> how do i uninstall something that is being used through wine?
[11:07] <DougM> i have ventrillo installed but would like to remove it
[11:08] <bernardlychan>  anyone know how to get cryptload scheduler working?  cryptload is a download manager but i don't know how to get the scheduler. anyone know?
[11:08] <indus> vikas: hmm
[11:08] <bazhang> bernardlychan,
[11:08] <bernardlychan> yes?
[11:08] <indus> vikas: mount /dev/sda1 -t ntfs /mountpoint
[11:09] <bazhang> three repeats in 3 minutes is too many
[11:09] <indus> vikas: well,your command is good too :)
[11:09] <bernardlychan> o ok.
[11:09] <Flo```> a) is Cryptload illegal in most cases.
[11:09] <Flo```> Just to Speed Up Some Rapidshare Downloads.
[11:09] <indus> vikas: not sure whats going on. Does it work well on windows?
[11:09] <Flo```> b) I think it`s just for windows so you run it with wine?
[11:09] <vikas> i tried this command as well "mount /dev/sda1 -t ntfs /mountpoint" but still not mounting
[11:10] <vikas> well the funny thing is /dev/sda5 mounts very well, but /dev/sda1
[11:10] <bernardlychan> yes flo. that is correct. do u know how to get the scheduler to work?
[11:10] <indus> vikas: yes /dev/sda5 too is ntfs i suppose
[11:10] <vikas> yes it is
[11:10] <bazhang> bernardlychan, check the appdb
[11:10] <bazhang> !appdb | bernardlychan
[11:10] <bernardlychan> what's that?
[11:11] <indus> vikas: what is the output of mount
[11:11] <bazhang> #winehq for help bernardlychan
[11:11] <bernardlychan> hmm... ok
[11:11] <Flo```> or try cron with wget
[11:11] <vikas> http://paste.ubuntu.com/235089/
[11:11] <Flo```> you can download files from rapidshare with wget.
[11:11] <Flo```> (if you`ve got a prem. account)
[11:12] <DougM> what would I type in terminal to uninstall wine?
[11:12] <Flo```> DougM: apt-get remove wine
[11:12] <DougM> Flo''' Cool thanks
[11:13] <Flo```> next time: RTFM
[11:13] <Flo```> read the friendly manual.
[11:13] <Ford_Prefect> Hello folks
[11:13] <Ford_Prefect> Anyone know what instruction set the Ubuntu ARM port is built for?
[11:13] <Ford_Prefect> 9.04, that is.
[11:14] <funkyHat> ARM9?
[11:14] <DougM> Flo''': hey.. im getting an eror its saying E: could not open lock file/var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 permission denied) E: Unable to lock the administration deirectory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[11:14] <DougM> any idea on why this is happening
[11:14] <Slart> Ford_Prefect: this might help you.. perhaps http://blog.canonical.com/?p=74
[11:14] <indus> vikas: i suggest use a live cd and try mounting it
[11:14] <Ford_Prefect> funkyHat, that would be armv5
[11:15] <Ford_Prefect> Slart, thanks - that corroborates what funkyHat says
[11:15] <Flo```> DougM: sudo apt-get remove wine
[11:15] <Ford_Prefect> Just wanted to make sure that was up to date
[11:15] <bernardlychan> hey anyone know a software irc channel?
[11:15] <vikas> ok
[11:15] <coleys> bernardlychan: xchat, irssi, quassel, konversation
[11:15] <DougM> Flo''': worked perfect... thanks a lot for the quick help.
[11:15] <randy2009> ActionParsnip: i got it working with the -t option
[11:15] <Flo```> lets reboot to install xubuntu.
[11:15] <indus> vikas: but just in case,can you try mounting it again
[11:15] <randy2009> ssh -t
[11:15] <coleys> bernardlychan: bitchx aswell.
[11:16] <bernardlychan> is there an irc channel for downloading?
[11:16] <pkkm> bernadlychan: Ubuntu software -- here
[11:16] <indus> vikas: mount /dev/sda1 -t ntfs /mnt
[11:16] <bazhang> bernardlychan, likely not
[11:16] <vikas> i tried but still wouldnt mount
[11:16] <vikas> ok wait
[11:16] <Bob_Dole> bernardlychan, downloading what exactly?
[11:16] <bernardlychan> anything, i want help with downloading manager
[11:16] <bazhang> bernardlychan, not on freenode, if you are referring to rapidshare and the like
[11:16] <indus> vikas: mount /dev/sda1 -t ntfs-3g /mnt
[11:16] <vikas> nope still the same error message
[11:16] <indus> try that
[11:16] <pkkm> bernadlychan: what download manager?
[11:17] <bernardlychan> pkkm cryptload
[11:17] <vikas> nope still the same message
[11:17] <indus> vikas: wait  mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /mnt
[11:17] <bazhang> bernardlychan, #winehq as I said
[11:17] <vikas> i tried that as well
[11:17] <pkkm> bernadlychan: sorry, I don't know that download manager, I use GwGet or Kget
[11:17] <vikas> still no avail
[11:17] <indus> vikas: first filesystem type then device and mount point?
[11:18] <vikas> yes i tried that
[11:18] <indus> vikas: ok its the same thing actually
[11:18] <DougM> I have Ventrillo installed on my computer using Wine.. i just uninstalled wine and noticed ventrillo is still under applications -> programs.. how would I go about deleting venrillo?
[11:18] <indus> vikas: so try with live cd and see i guess
[11:19] <indus> vikas: which version of ubuntu?
[11:19] <vikas> another thing is i want to copy /boot to /dev/sda1 from /dev/sdb1 so that the grub will load from /dev/sda1 search for /dev/sdb1 for ubuntu if cannot find then load windows from sda1. Can you tell me what changes do i have to make in grub config ?
[11:19] <vikas> 9.04
[11:20] <Cube> ok why do i have /root/boot/boot/boot (and the grub files are all in the last one!?)?. there is another /boot/ added to that path every time i do mount /dev/sda1 /media/root/boot
[11:20] <indus> vikas: well,assuming that just moving the /boot to that device partition is enough, you need to use live cd and reinstall grub
[11:21] <vikas> ok i will try that now
[11:21] <indus> vikas: in terminal sudo grub, then find /boot/grub/stage1
[11:21] <indus> vikas: just have to point grub to the menu.lst
[11:22] <indus> vikas:but please ask if moving /boot to another place is enough, i dont know that step
[11:22] <vikas> whats the command for reinstalling grub ?
[11:22] <indus> vikas: grub-install <devicename>
[11:22] <vikas> ok got it thanks, will give it a shot
[11:22] <indus> vikas: boot live cd and come back so i can help
[11:23] <koshari> vikas actually update-grub will reinstall
[11:23] <mad> salut
[11:23] <vikas> ok
[11:23] <quizme> how do you open a directory in Gnome from the command line ?
[11:23] <Ford_Prefect> quizme, try nautilus <dirname>
[11:23] <coleys> Anyways gotta go guys later.
[11:24] <indus> koshari vikas or that too
[11:24] <indus> koshari: but it lets you install to a diff device
[11:24] <indus> nvm
[11:25] <catalin205> hello I need to set up a static ip address to mu ubuntu server wothout a router can anyone help please ?
[11:25] <catalin205> my ubuntu
[11:25] <gartral> how do i make a zip archive from comsole?
[11:25] <jrib> gartral: man zip  should have some examples.  Why zip instead of tar?
[11:25] <keyol86> cntrl j
[11:26] <gartral> jrib: winblows compatability
[11:26] <jrib> catalin205: https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/network-configuration.html
[11:26] <indus> jrib:tar doesnt zip (compress) things maybe
[11:26] <indus> jrib:gzip + tar i believe
[11:27] <jrib> indus: well with -j or -z it would
[11:27] <Qu4R0w> alop2
[11:28] <indus> jrib:yes true thanks,that right click create archive option, that doesnt zip it does it?
[11:28] <jrib> indus: I think it does but I don't know
[11:28] <jrib> indus: should be able to tell from the extension at least
[11:28] <indus> jrib ok just checked , saves as tar.gz :)
[11:28] <indus> jrib: yes
[11:29] <indus> jrib:also possible to select option zip and a whole lot others
[11:29] <quizme> ford_prefect: Prefect, thanks
[11:29] <quizme> ford_prefect: i mean perfect.
[11:30] <om26er> nautilus is showing blank cd but brasero says there is not cd drive
[11:31] <bazhang> om26er, in karmic?
[11:31] <axscode> how to install compiz-fusion on ubuntu
[11:31] <om26er> bazhang: yes
[11:31] <bazhang> !ccsm | axscode
[11:31] <bazhang> om26er, #ubuntu+1 for karmic
[11:31] <indus> ok guys i have a big problem ,my cd/dvd drive is not detected in jaunty
[11:32] <indus> amd 690 g chipset,
[11:33] <gartral> jrib: man isnt helping, just giving me example of obscure crud too do with zip, and all i want is a single directory of 6 pictures packed into an archive!
[11:33] <vikas> hi guys its not mounting from live USB either. I think i messed it up by installing grub on sda1. now i am cloning back the original image without grub and will try then.
[11:34] <indus> gartral: zip -r files filename wont work?
[11:34] <jrib> gartral: scroll down to the EXAMPLES section, then read "To zip up an entire directory, the command: zip -r foo foo creates the archive foo.zip containing all the files and directories in the directory foo that is contained within the current directory."
[11:34] <indus> !who | vikas
[11:35] <vikas> indus,
[11:35] <indus> vikas: yes
[11:36] <indus> gartral: i suppose you tried already but zip -r name.zip file2 file3 file4
[11:36] <vikas> indus: its not mounting from live USB either. I think i messed it up by installing grub on sda1. now i am cloning back the original image without grub and will try then
[11:36] <gartral> jrib: zip -r path/to/zip path/to/dir reports "nothing to do"
[11:36] <jrib> gartral: pastebin your command, the output and the ls output of path/to/dir I guess
[11:37] <indus> vikas: installing grub on sda1 wont mess up the partition
[11:37] <vikas> indus: then i dont understand what could cause sda1 not mounting
[11:37] <gartral> jrib: ide rsther not... there personal photos..
[11:37] <shadeslayer> hi i need to mount my sony T70 manually via command line,how do i go about it?
[11:37] <indus> vikas: me neither
[11:37] <jrib> gartral: fine, do it with a directory you just created and touch some files
[11:38] <gartral> jrib: ... ?
[11:38] <jrib> gartral: mkdir testingzip && touch testingzip/{1..6}    Then try to zip up the "testingzip" directory and pastebin what you are doing that fails
[11:39] <vikas> indus, actually i have ran "grub-install /dev/sda1" without copying /boot on sda1. Do you thank that would cause any probs ?
[11:40] <indus> vikas: well,no
[11:40] <big---ben> hey guys. i installed a new kernel with dist-upgrade. but when i rebooted it rebooted into the old one. anyone know what could have gone wrong?
[11:40] <gartral> jrib: nvm, i see my error
[11:40] <grawity> big---ben: When you install a new kernel, Ubuntu doesn't remove the previous one - it lets you choose when booting.
[11:41] <grawity> big---ben: On the boot menu you should have the new kernel and the one you had before dist-upgrade.
[11:41] <big---ben> grawity: the only choice was the previous one
[11:41] <indus> gartral: i just zipped afew files
[11:41] <frogzoo> big---ben: you want to try 'sudo update-grub' (should have been done by dist-upgrade)
[11:41] <jrib> grawity: is there a reason you don't just use the right click menu like indus pointed out?
[11:41] <trashbarg> big---ben, you may want to add your own section to menu.lst
[11:41] <tbaxter> If I unload the fglrx propietary drivers, does anyone know what should go in my xorg.conf in their place?
[11:41] <grawity> gartral: <jrib> is there a reason you don't just use the right click menu like indus pointed out?
[11:41] <pkkm> I hear sound from music player running on ^ + Alt + F7 virtual X display (GNOME) only on that display and on ^ + Alt + F1-4 when I am loged in on those. When I start a game on new virtual X display with "xinit $game -- :1 -layout GameLayout", there is no sound (neither from the music player nor from the game) on the virtual X display the game is running on, but there is game sound on ^ + Alt + F7 (GNOME) and ^ + Alt + F1-4 when I am loged in o
[11:41] <pkkm> n those (like with music player). How to make all sounds hearable on all virtual screens?
[11:42] <jrib> grawity: thanks :)
[11:42] <gartral> grawity: server
[11:42] <indus> grawity: no gui :)
[11:42] <gartral> indus: no mouse period :(
[11:42] <indus> gartral: aah ok
[11:42] <grawity> gartral: tell that to jrib.
[11:43] <indus> gartral: so u zipped ? zip -r <zipname.zip> <file1> <file2> etc
[11:43] <gartral> jrib: server
[11:43] <om26er> which command to use to install the dependencies
[11:43] <om26er> build-dep??
[11:43] <big---ben> frogzoo: thanks, looks like that worked. i'll try a reboot
[11:43] <frogzoo> om26er: build-essential ?
[11:43] <jrib> om26er: apt installs dependencies automatically when you install a package.  You don't have to do anything
[11:43] <Arenlor> I'm wondering, does anyone know why the system monitor tray app does not show my HDD activity?
[11:44] <gartral> indus: no.. i was trying ./path/to/zip /path/to/folder but my target folder was in my /home, and i "ommitted" the ./ part
[11:44] <indus> gartral: jrib: didnt reduce size much though, 3.2 mb down to 2.8
[11:44] <indus> i hear pzip is superb
[11:44] <jrib> indus: try bzip2 instead?
[11:44] <indus> i mean 7zip
[11:44] <om26er> cdrecord
[11:44] <kindofabuzz> Arenlor, have you looked at it's preferences and chosen that feature?
[11:45] <om26er> how to make cdrecord work
[11:45] <indus> it gives some message about deflate files etc though when zipping
[11:45] <indus> vikas: hi sorry forgot
[11:45] <om26er> indus how to install cd record
[11:46] <indus> om26er: its in synaptic
[11:46] <indus> om26er: sudo apt-get install cdrecord
[11:46] <vikas> indus, its fine, i am just waiting for cloning to complete to try once again.
[11:46] <indus> om26er: install wodim
[11:46] <Arenlor> kindofabuzz: Yes, it constantly says 0% in use, even when using a disk intensive operation
[11:47] <indus> om26er: i think it auto selects that for install
[11:47] <om26er> yes'
[11:47] <indus> om26er: what are you tying to achieve?
[11:48] <indus> om26er: cdrecord i think has been replaced by wodim,but wodim is installed by default i believe
[11:48] <indus> om26er: required as a backend for gnomebaker or bresero i think
[11:48] <om26er> indus: i cannot write a cd nautilus shows that there is a blank cd but brasero says there is nothing same is the problem with other burners
[11:49] <indus> om26er: maybe the cd has a problem
[11:49] <koshari> Arenlor check with top, the sys monitor may not show some root processes
[11:49] <indus> om26er: does it work on windows? is cdrom mounted, check output of mount
[11:49] <om26er> indus: then i inserted a dvd and the problem persists
[11:49] <kindofabuzz> om26er, i had that happen once, a reboot solved it
[11:50] <om26er> indus: yes it is not mounted
[11:50] <kindofabuzz> probably another way of solving it since on linux but i just rebooted
[11:50] <indus> om26er: then mount it manually
[11:50] <ingo86> hi, how can i send email with php from ubuntu?
[11:50] <timewriter> hi
[11:50] <om26er> indus: what is its id
[11:50] <indus> om26er: hmm
[11:50] <indus> om26er: type /dev/press tab and see if it lists scd0 or something
[11:51] <indus> om26er: try also a mount -a
[11:51] <Arenlor> koshari: I didn't realize top showed harddrive access
[11:52] <froes> is there a text editor with macro support?
[11:52] <koshari> Arenlor it shows memory and cpu usage so it is likely to point to the process thats polling the hdd.
[11:52] <om26er> indus: its a usb dvdrw
[11:52] <indus> om26er: ohhh
[11:52] <indus> om26er: whats lsusb output
[11:53] <Arenlor> koshari: The problem is that the System Monitor tray thing doesn't show my HDD access, and I want to be able to see when something is polling it
[11:53] <om26er> indus: http://paste.ubuntu.com/235115/
[11:54] <indus> om26er: cool , i believe this should directly come under places/computer
[11:54] <om26er> indus: its the usb2.0 ide device
[11:54] <indus> om26er: it is mounted
[11:54] <indus> om26er: aah no wait
[11:55] <kindofabuzz> Arenlor, so you've checked hard disk in it's preferences?
[11:55] <vikas> indus, it worked, what i thought was right. When i install grub on sda1 something went wrong so couldnt mount that partition.
[11:55] <indus> vikas: ok then how did you solve it?
[11:55] <Arenlor> kindofabuzz: Yes
[11:56] <vikas> indus, just cloned the HD back with the backup image that i took before playing with this. that didnt had any grub installed
[11:56] <kindofabuzz> Arenlor, try removing it then add it back? dunno
[11:56] <indus> om26er: i want output of sudo fdisk -l
[11:56] <StupidWeasel> Humm does anyone know offhand if there is a list of Netbooks that UNR likes & dislikes?
[11:57] <Arenlor> kindofabuzz: Tried that
[11:57] <om26er> http://paste.ubuntu.com/235117/
[11:57] <StupidWeasel> I've recently aquired a netbook, and after fixing the screen I'd be interested in getting UNR on there.
[11:57] <indus> !compatibility
[11:57] <om26er> indus: http://paste.ubuntu.com/235117/
[11:57] <indus> !hardware
[11:57] <vikas> indus, now i have copied /boot from /dev/sdb1 to /dev/sda1. now what shall i do to install grub on sda1 to tell that ubuntu resides in sdb1, but if cannot find sdb1 then boot into windows which is in sda1 ?
[11:59] <koshari> Arenlor tried iotop?
[11:59] <zykes-> anyone got a hint onto why a lvm doesn't work when using a jaunty kernel with hardy heron ?
[11:59] <AdvoWork> is there any reason why when i open a folder based on another server shared by samba, firstly i get: Couldn't display "smb://ip/folder Error: No data available  but then I do it again, and it works fine?
[11:59] <indus> om26er: is a cd in the drive?
[11:59] <zykes-> some hardware we have requires a newer kernel in order to work
[11:59] <om26er> indus: yes blank cd
[11:59] <Arenlor> koshari: No, will check it out
[12:00] <Arenlor> koshari: Odd, that actually shows some IO
[12:00] <indus> om26er: hmm could you try using a non-blank cd and seeif it works?
[12:01] <om26er> indus: ok w8
[12:01] <pkkm> I hear sound from music player running on ^ + Alt + F7 virtual X display (GNOME) only on that display and on ^ + Alt + F1-4 when I am loged in on those. When I start a game on new virtual X display with "xinit $game -- :1 -layout GameLayout", there is no sound (neither from the music player nor from the game) on the virtual X display the game is running on, but there is game sound on ^ + Alt + F7 (GNOME) and ^ + Alt + F1-4 when I am loged in o
[12:01] <indus> om26er: if that works , then the cd is the problem i believe
[12:01] <pkkm> n those (like with music player). How to make all sounds hearable on all virtual screens?
[12:01] <koshari> Arenlor isnt that what you wanted?
[12:01] <Arenlor> koshari: Yes, but it confuses me that the system monitor app doesn't show it
[12:02] <koshari> Arenlor as i said earlier, the system monitor wont show some root processes
[12:02] <indus> anyone knows about dvd roms not being detected in 9.04 AMD chipset http://kerneltrap.org/mailarchive/git-commits-head/2008/6/14/2122314
[12:02] <indus> help
[12:02] <indus> i havent been able to play media since april
[12:03] <ocelot> привет всем!
[12:03] <Myrtti> !ru | ocelot
[12:03] <Arenlor> koshari: System monitor doesn't show me running srm
[12:03] <zykes-> anyone got a clue ?
[12:03] <lillis> Arenlor: tried ps aux | grep srm ?
[12:04] <indus> zykes-: clue about what?
[12:04] <indus> zykes-: aah ok read it ,sorry no idea
[12:04] <Arenlor> lillis: I know it's running and my CPU shows it running, the problem is that I'm not seeing it doing anything to my HDD using system monitor
[12:05] <Qu4R0w> Arenlor, test
[12:05] <Arenlor> Qu4R0w: ??
[12:05] <Qu4R0w> how to make font red color?
[12:06] <koltroll> I'd like shift+alt+8 to produce {. Any tip on how I can achieve that ?
[12:07] <lau> hello, do you know if the ubuntu website source is open ? http://www.ubuntu.com/
[12:07] <Qu4R0w> !ubuntu | lau
[12:09] <lau> Qu4R0w: I am looking for the source code of the website not the distribution itself, is it clearer for you ?
[12:09] <Qu4R0w> lau: i just test using "ubottu"
[12:09] <koltroll> lau, right click and view source?
[12:10] <lau> Qu4R0w: ok; koltroll the www is drupal based i guess thus the html source is not enough to me
[12:10] <lau> i was looking for a bzr trunk or something
[12:10] <lau> but i fear the www is closed sourced
[12:10] <lau> i do not know in fact !
[12:11] <niadh> My motherboard failed, so I replaced it, didn't have to reinstall ubuntu and after using the system with the new motherboard for a week the audio device stops outputting audio, can someone help me?
[12:13] <lau> niadh: did you update or install or remove some packages recently ?
[12:13] <niadh> lau: Only those shipped to me though update manager
[12:13] <mohd> guys how to see other users on network with terminal ??
[12:14] <niadh> lau: I've also not compiled anything from source either
[12:14] <lau> niadh: may be try to reconfigure pulseaudio or alsa
[12:14] <mohd> any one know ?
[12:14] <niadh> lau: How do I do that?
[12:15] <lau> maybe start here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio niadh
[12:15] <mohd> guys how to see other users on network with terminal ??
[12:15] <lau> or here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/alsa-oss niadh
[12:16] <lau> niadh: it is just a suggestion to solve your stuff...
[12:16] <pkkm> I hear sound from music player running on ^ + Alt + F7 virtual X display (GNOME) only on that display and on ^ + Alt + F1-4 when I am loged in on those. When I start a game on new virtual X display with "xinit $game -- :1 -layout GameLayout", there is no sound (neither from the music player nor from the game) on the virtual X display the game is running on, but there is game sound on ^ + Alt + F7 (GNOME) and ^ + Alt + F1-4 when I am loged in o
[12:16] <pkkm> n those (like with music player). How to make all sounds hearable on all virtual screens?
[12:16] <Slart> mohd: users? computers? network devices?... nmap might be able to help with the network devices
[12:16] <trashbarg> mohd, execute "users" vie ssh?
[12:16] <niadh> lau: Yeah, I'll try it, although is there not a limited functionality sound card driver like vesa, except obviously for audio?
[12:17] <mohd> how trash ?
[12:17] <lau> trashbarg: yes how ?
[12:17] <Cube_> hey, desktop search (f12) (beagle i suppose) is not indexing my emails (evolution). everything else works just fine.
[12:17] <trashbarg> you need a running ssh server on the computer
[12:17] <mohd> sudo get-install ssh ???
[12:18] <lillis> mohd: sudo apt-get install sshd
[12:18] <trashbarg> im not sure, maybe its sshd
[12:18] <Slart> !ssh
[12:18] <mohd> ok
[12:18] <lillis> oh wait not d
[12:18] <Slart> !sshd
[12:18] <darkhamm> hey people,how can i find a yesterday's pastebin post
[12:18] <darkhamm> ?
[12:18] <pkkm> !scp > pawel
[12:19] <pkkm> !scp > pkkm
[12:19] <trashbarg> mohd, if you only want to get a list of active users, nc(1) may help you
[12:19] <niadh> lau: Those have not worked
[12:19] <koltroll> I'd like shift+alt+8 to produce {. Any tip on how I can achieve that ?
[12:19] <mohd> nc ?
[12:20] <mohd> get install nc ?
[12:20] <lau> yes nc looks great !
[12:20] <Slart> koltroll: xmodmap? or some keyboard setting
[12:20] <lau> niadh: do not know
[12:20] <trashbarg> mohd, "man nc" should help you ;)
[12:20] <lau> mohd: man nc maybe first
[12:21] <darkhamm> i need to find my pastebin post of yesterday, woh can i do this?
[12:22] <quibbler> darkhamm, try here:  http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/
[12:22] <Slart> darkhamm: irclogs.ubuntu.com might still have the url if you wrote it in the channel
[12:23] <DJones> darkhamm: or is it listed in your web browsers history
[12:23] <Cube__> hey, somehow beagle wont index my evolution emails
[12:23] <Cube__> everything else works just fine
[12:25] <AdvoWork> is there any reason why when i open a folder based on another server shared by samba, firstly i get: Couldn't display "smb://ip/folder Error: No data available  but then I do it again, and it works fine?
[12:25] <Guest32395> hello
[12:27] <trashbarg> mohd, a simple idea how it works:
[12:27] <trashbarg> mohd, server side: users | nc -l 1234
[12:27] <trashbarg> mohd, client sider: nc server 1234
[12:29] <buddycasino> tach
[12:29] <zykes-> anyone got a hint onto why a lvm doesn't work when using a jaunty kernel with hardy heron ?
[12:29] <zykes-> some hardware we have requires a newer kernel in order to work
[12:31] <jacosis> Anyone working with spoonwep in Ubuntu?
[12:31] <Dr_Willis> AdvoWork:  i find the natutilus file manger 'browsing' features of samba shares to be flakey. could be its instantly timing out for some reason the first time. I find it easier if i 'bookmark' all the shares i normally access. seems  to work better that way
[12:31] <maxagaz> is there a way to set the priority level at which a window is displayed in gnome ?
[12:32] <Dr_Willis> maxagaz:  priority level? You can set various 'niceness' levels for processes.. if thats what you mean.
[12:32] <datta> can anyone tell me why my gnome panels might be crashing when i boot up my system, i wrote about this in this chat before and thought it fixed the whole problem but still nothing
[12:32] <memphis^1> hey all, i have got a problem with a msi k9n neo mainboard... the cpu fan is running all the time, although cool & quiet ist enabled and fancontrol configured. Can someone help me out?
[12:32] <allert> hoi
[12:33] <maxagaz> Dr_Willis, i use gok as a virtual keyboard, and i need it to be always on top of firefox even when firefox is in full screen mode
[12:33] <Roey> hi
[12:33] <Roey> why does soundconverter give me errors like: MP3 unavailable: Perl module MP3::Info not found
[12:33] <Roey> ?
[12:33] <Roey> what packages are missing here?
[12:35] <Dr_Willis> maxagaz:  thats not what you asked then. :)  window managers have  features to make specific windows 'always on top' or 'sticky'  gnome -> right click on the apps title bar and check the menu items.
[12:35] <memphis^1> hey all, i have got a problem with a msi k9n neo mainboard... the cpu fan is running all the time, although cool & quiet ist enabled and fancontrol configured. Can someone help me out?
[12:35] <datta> did anyone else face this type of problem where your panels fail?
[12:35] <Dr_Willis> maxagaz:  window managers other then gnomes - may have more settings/ways to do it also  but most all can do that feature.
[12:36] <pkkm> I hear sound from music player running on ^ + Alt + F7 virtual X display (GNOME) only on that display and on ^ + Alt + F1-4 when I am loged in on those. When I start a game on new virtual X display with "xinit $game -- :1 -layout GameLayout", there is no sound (neither from the music player nor from the game) on the virtual X display the game is running on, but there is game sound on ^ + Alt + F7 (GNOME) and ^ + Alt + F1-4 when I am loged in o
[12:36] <pkkm> n those (like with music player). How to make all sounds hearable on all virtual screens?
[12:36] <maxagaz> Dr_Willis, i need it to be done automatically when the gok is launched
[12:37] <Dr_Willis> maxagaz:   there may be some tools to make it do that. ive seen somthing like that in kde..  some window ,managers can 'save/rember' the setting. but havent  noticed the feature in gnome.
[12:38] <Dr_Willis> maxagaz:  a fast google serch for 'gnome start program always on top' -->  http://www.redips.net/linux/gnome-always-on-top/
[12:38] <datta> the problem is this sort http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/installation/701-gnome-panel-crash.html but in ubuntu not redhat
[12:39] <nottinman> hello again :) now i uninstalled and reinstalled my graphic driver two times. first time in synaptic and second time in terminal with this command: 'apt-get --purge remove nvidia*; sudo apt-get --purge autoremove; sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' But still compiz will not work. Anyone got a clue?
[12:39] <Qu4R0w> my window decoration in gnome was corrupted..how to fix?
[12:39] <tottto-drummond> nottiman have u tried Envyng
[12:40] <Qu4R0w> nottinman:u use nvidia?
[12:40] <nottinman> it worked before without
[12:40] <nottinman> yes nvidia
[12:40] <tottto-drummond> nottiman... Envyng generally solves the problem
[12:41] <nottinman> ok i will try that. what does it do?
[12:41] <tottto-drummond> it install appropriate drivers for either Nvidia or ATI video card. simply follow the instructions
[12:42] <Dr_Willis> ive seen envyng cause problems.. :)
[12:42] <Dr_Willis> but  i will leave it at that..
[12:42] <tottto-drummond> you can get it right from synaptic
[12:42] <Mrafrohead> howdy
[12:42] <Qu4R0w> my gnome have no window decoration..how to fix?
[12:42] <brooksaar> funkyHat: I'm back, but never fear, it's just to say thanks
[12:43] <brooksaar> funkyHat: Thanks to you I got my DHCP stuff working
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> Qu4R0w:  try alt-f2   and run 'metacity --replace'
[12:43] <nottinman> is envyng an aplication to run after install?
[12:43] <brooksaar> funkyHat: So, Thanks
[12:43] <DJones> !envyng | nottinman
[12:43] <aviator> #ubuntu-fr
[12:43] <Qu4R0w> Dr_Willis: after reboot,it same
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> Qu4R0w:  does alt-f2 and that command 'fix' it  however?
[12:44] <Qu4R0w> Dr_Willis: yes
[12:44] <Qu4R0w> Dr_Willis: also compiz --replace
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> Qu4R0w:  open a termianal try 'compiz --replace' then and look for error messages..   if that also 'works' then you got some odd issues going on..
[12:45] <maxagaz> Dr_Willis, thansk a lot
[12:46] <JoaoSantana> Takhisis: cuidado com a dragonlance!!!
[12:46] <Qu4R0w> Dr_Willis: i open terminal>"compiz --replace" and it same to what happen with "metacity --replace"
[12:46] <nottinman> where do i find envyng aafter install?
[12:46] <Qu4R0w> Dr_Willis: u nid error log? on metacity --replace?
[12:46] <datta> please anyone did face problem with the gnome panels? these panels crash at the after logging in but the next time u log back in, it has them back
[12:47] <Dr_Willis> Qu4R0w:   You mean to say compiz --replace does NOT work?
[12:47] <Qu4R0w> Dr_Willis: both work
[12:47] <Dr_Willis> Qu4R0w:   You may want to install and run the 'fusion-icon' tool and use it to enable/disable compiz and whatever window-decorator you want. You may have it set to emerald some how.. and emerald not installed.. or no ememerald themes.
[12:48] <aaronvarghese> can some1 help me with the terminal application ircii
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> !info ircii
[12:48] <quibbler> Qu4R0w, in the compiz manager is window decorations checked?
[12:48] <Qu4R0w> Dr_Willis: yes i think..how to install emerald??but before,without emerald,i can see my window decoration
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> Old Skool IRC client. :)
[12:48] <Qu4R0w> quibbler: yes
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> !compiz | Qu4R0w
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> Qu4R0w:  its in the package manager.. theres no themes for emerald by default last i tried it.. I dont use emerald much.
[12:49] <aaronvarghese> can some1 help me with the terminal application ircii
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> Qu4R0w:  theres 3 window decorators you can use. the gnome one, the kde one, and emerald. (i think)
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> aaronvarghese:  ask a more specifc question perhaps?
[12:49] <Qu4R0w> Dr_Willis: me use gnome before
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> Qu4R0w:  fusion-icon i find is a MUST have tool when using compiz.
[12:50] <aaronvarghese> can some1 help me with the terminal application ircii i want to connect to ubuntu on it
[12:50] <Qu4R0w> Dr_Willis: but,before, it work fine
[12:50] <Dr_Willis> Qu4R0w:  its possibel your settings are goofed up.
[12:50] <Dr_Willis> Qu4R0w:  fusion-icon can reset them
[12:50] <aaronvarghese> can some1 help me with the terminal application ircii i want to connect to ubuntu on it
[12:50] <Qu4R0w> Dr_Willis: i think because ui remove metacity
[12:51] <Qu4R0w> Dr_Willis: i*
[12:51] <nottinman> where do i find envyng aafter install?
[12:51] <Dr_Willis> Qu4R0w:  or try           gtk-window-decorator --replace
[12:51] <Antaranian> hi there
[12:51] <Dr_Willis> Qu4R0w:  removed in what way?
[12:51] <Antaranian> I just installed KDE on my ubuntu
[12:51] <Qu4R0w> Dr_Willis: i remove in synaptic i think
[12:51] <Dr_Willis> aaronvarghese:  connect 'to' ubuntu?   you use the irc client to connect to irc servers.
[12:51] <Antaranian> I tested it, then swithced to gnom
[12:52] <Antaranian> gnome
[12:52] <Dr_Willis> Qu4R0w:  why did you do that?   i would suggest reinstalling the ubuntu-desktop meta package and get it back.
[12:52] <Qu4R0w> Dr_Willis: how to reinstall?
[12:52] <Antaranian> now apperance of my gnome mixed with kde
[12:52] <hamidlogis> hello every body
[12:52] <Qu4R0w> Dr_Willis: i willing to return to fresh gnome
[12:52] <Antaranian> how can I solve it ?
[12:52] <aaron11> can some1 help me with the terminal application ircii i want to connect to ubuntu on it
[12:52] <hamidlogis> i have installed secondlife
[12:53] <hamidlogis> but my problem is the version is old
[12:53] <AdvoWork> Dr_Willis, just thought, these are bookmarked :s
[12:53] <Qu4R0w> !nick | Antaranian
[12:53] <Dr_Willis> hamidlogis:  get the latest from the second life homepage perhaps?
[12:53] <hamidlogis> now i have download the newer but i am wondering how i can reinstall it
[12:54] <Qu4R0w> Dr_Willis: i willing to return to fresh gnome
[12:54] <pisse> Hi! I'm trying to get a few ports open. According to this thread http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-security-4/how-to-open-ports-in-ubuntu-451282/ ports aren't open until they are listened to. So I have an app which should listen to a port but netstat tells me it doesn't.. so if I open the port it will work correctly? How do I do that? I haven't installed a firewall so maybe that's what I should do? Like ufw?
[12:54] <Antaranian> !nick | Qu4R0w
[12:54] <Dr_Willis> hamidlogis:  for things like that - i let the user download and install it in their own home dir.. not system wide.. that way the user can update it.
[12:54] <Roland> I discovered something strange... whenever i connect a second monitor to my laptop and enable it in " nvidia X server settings ", the gnome panel will freeze( time freezes, right click doesn't work ).. anyone heard of a bug like this?
[12:54] <Dr_Willis> Qu4R0w:  delete the various gnome setting files then.   .gnome* and .gconf* directories if you want.
[12:54] <hamidlogis> update doesnot work
[12:54] <Dr_Willis> Qu4R0w:  or try 'fusion-icon' as i suggested
[12:54] <maxagaz> sshd is an ssh server ?
[12:55] <Qu4R0w> Dr_Willis: it in home folder right?
[12:55] <Dr_Willis> hamidlogis:  if its isntalled 'system wide' the user CANT update  the files.. becuase they are 'system' files. :) thats why i always install it by the user.. for that specific user.
[12:55] <aaron11> can some 1 help me with ssh
[12:55] <pkkm> I hear sound from music player running on ^ + Alt + F7 virtual X display (GNOME) only on that display and on ^ + Alt + F1-4 when I am loged in on those. When I start a game on new virtual X display with "xinit $game -- :1 -layout GameLayout", there is no sound (neither from the music player nor from the game) on the virtual X display the game is running on, but there is game sound on ^ + Alt + F7 (GNOME) and ^ + Alt + F1-4 when I am loged in o
[12:55] <pkkm> n those (like with music player). How to make all sounds hearable on all virtual screens?
[12:55] <Dr_Willis> Qu4R0w:  yes.
[12:55] <Beyecixramd> is there a workaround to play the logout/exit sound in GNOME?
[12:55] <Qu4R0w> Dr_Willis: .gnome2
[12:55] <Qu4R0w> Dr_Willis: there is no gnome
[12:56] <hamidlogis> i did not understand Dr_Willis
[12:56] <Dr_Willis> note the wildcards Qu4R0w  i dont rember their exact names.. -->  .gnome* and .gconf* directories if you want.
[12:56] <hamidlogis> here is the command line i used to install the old version
[12:56] <Dr_Willis> hamidlogis:  have your user download the latest from the homepage.. dont use the ones int he repos.. dont install it using synaptic - is what i  normally do.
[12:56] <hamidlogis> wget -c http://download-secondlife-com.s3.amazonaws.com/SecondLife_i686_1_19_1_4.tar.bz2
[12:56] <hamidlogis> sudo tar -C /opt/ -xf ~/Desktop/SecondLife_i686_1_19_1_4.tar.bz2
[12:56] <hamidlogis> sudo ln -s /opt/SecondLife_i686_1_19_1_4/secondlife /usr/local/bin/
[12:57] <Qu4R0w> Dr_Willis: .gconf is exist but .gnome is not exist..i have .gnome2..shall i del .gnome2 then?
[12:57] <Dr_Willis> hamidlogis:  I keep mine in the users homd dir.
[12:57] <Dr_Willis> Qu4R0w:  go for it.
[12:57] <Qu4R0w> Dr_Willis: ok2
[12:57] <Dr_Willis> Qu4R0w:  this will reset ALL gnome s3ettngs..
[12:57] <Qu4R0w> Dr_Willis: im fine
[12:57] <hamidlogis> now i download the newer version
[12:57] <Qu4R0w> Dr_Willis: another folder?
[12:57] <Dr_Willis> Qu4R0w:  if you removed metacity window manager you  may have to do some reinstalling to fix things
[12:58] <hamidlogis> and iam wondering how i can reinstall
[12:58] <Dr_Willis> hamidlogis:  all you did with those commands was download/extract the thing to the /opt/whatver dirs..  and put a link in youu path
[12:58] <Qu4R0w> Dr_Willis: i think after install,i can see 1 more option in "session selection" .am i right?
[12:58] <aaron11> helo
[12:59] <Dr_Willis> hamidlogis:   theres no real need to do that  if its just for your single user.
[12:59] <Qu4R0w> Dr_Willis: i nid restart then?
[12:59] <Dr_Willis> Qu4R0w:  logout/back in .
[12:59] <Qu4R0w> Dr_Willis: ok
[12:59] <aaron11> can i have some help with ssh
[12:59] <hamidlogis> then what i have to do
[13:00] <Dr_Willis> hamidlogis:  i just extract the game to  some directiry in the users home dir ie: /home/willis/secondlife and run it from there.. it should be able to updateitself then
[13:01] <Qu4R0w> Dr_Willis: nice...all nice..tq so much DR-Willis..+3
[13:01] <HotShowers> how do i search my filesystem for a file containing the word "hello"?
[13:01] <aaron11> remote desktop me please
[13:01] <Beyecixramd> grep device hello
[13:02] <joaopinto> HotShowers, grep -r "hello" /filesystem
[13:02] <Qu4R0w> Dr_Willis: i can see many option when i press "session" button..and there also have 2 fluxbox and 2 blackbox..how to remove 1?
[13:02] <joaopinto> be prepared to overkill your system
[13:02] <akalias> I am using an ubuntu VMWare appliance.  When running irb (ruby) directly in the VM without ssh everything is fine however when using SSH and hitting backspace instead of deleting a character backwards it inserts ^H    Any hints?
[13:02] <Qu4R0w> hammerz: slmt dtg
[13:02] <Myrtti> aaron11: why?
[13:03] <Qu4R0w> how to remove my session option?
[13:03] <Dr_Willis> Qu4R0w:  those are defined by various '*.desktop' files  on the system.  such as /usr/share/xsessions/gnome.desktop
[13:03] <aaron11> oh i need help with somthing
[13:03] <Dr_Willis> Qu4R0w:  you perhaps have redundant/extra copies of them in the settings dirs.
[13:03] <Myrtti> "something"
[13:03] <aaron11> ya
[13:03] <aaron11> a app called ircii
[13:03] <AdvoWork> Dr_Willis, any further ideas?
[13:04] <lemuria> sorry how to install vnc server on Xubuntu ?
[13:04] <Cube_> does ubuntu have a firewall?
[13:04] <Cube_> !firewall
[13:04] <ditty_kong> yes ubuntu comes with a firewall
[13:04] <Myrtti> aaron11: stop requesting people remote desktop you. It's very unlikely that someone will. also, ircII is very, very old IRC client, and you'd probably find more luck and help with irssi.
[13:04] <Cube_> ditty_kong: by default, right? so its running right away, from the beginning?
[13:04] <Qu4R0w> Dr_Willis: in /usr/share/xsessions i have blackbox,fluxbox,gnome,secure remote connection,xfce session
[13:05] <ditty_kong> yes Cube_ that is correct
[13:05] <jrib> Cube_: sure but the firewall has no rules set by default.  There are also no services listening on any port by default
[13:05] <Cube_> ditty_kong: thanks!
[13:05] <aaron11> ok
[13:05] <Cube_> jrib: so, if i leave it as is, am i kind of secure?
[13:05] <Dr_Willis> Qu4R0w:  yep.. and theres proberly some otehr dirs on the system that may also be getting searched. I dont recall where those are at.  try 'locate WHATEVER.desktop' for those files to see if theres some duplicates somewhere.
[13:05] <Myrtti> Cube_: it's running from the start, but it's not activated as it has nothing to block per default
[13:05] <naymyowin> hi
[13:05] <ditty_kong> you want to use iptables to configure it though
[13:05] <naymyowin> i have question about slapd
[13:06] <lemuria> how to install a vnc-like server on Xubuntu ?
[13:06] <Qu4R0w> Dr_Willis: i try
[13:06] <jrib> Cube_: if you leave it as it is, it's the same as having no firewall.  But yes your system is secure regardless since there are no services listening by default
[13:06] <Myrtti> !vnc | lemuria
[13:07] <Dr_Willis> vnc is very flexiable - thers dozen ways to set it up - dependign on your exact needs.
[13:07] <Dr_Willis> Unlike how it normally runs in windows.
[13:07] <naymyowin> hi
[13:08] <naymyowin> who will answer or help me?
[13:08] <lemuria> but in Ubuntu , the server is install after installation of the OS , not in xxubuntu
[13:08] <lemuria> sorry for my bad english
[13:08] <jrib> naymyowin: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[13:08] <naymyowin> yes i did
[13:08] <Myrtti> lemuria: x11vnc
[13:09] <Myrtti> naymyowin: you said you have a question about slapd, but I haven't seen it
[13:09] <Dr_Willis> lemuria:  GNOME has a vnc server feature built in.. if you want to share the current desktop in xubuntu - use x11vnc i think
[13:09] <lemuria> k thanks
[13:12] <RioKuro> does anybody know a way to make a dvd with say 4 different ubuntu versions on it?
[13:13] <Cube_> jrib: would it be advised to configure it? ( and you're saying, since i have no services listening, its like having windows WITH a firewall, right?)
[13:13] <JonathanEllis> ﻿I have some sound problems and having googled I am now really confused. Can someone please explain what ALSA, OSS, ESD, JACK and PULSE are? Why are there so many parts to the sound system? What do they do? Which should I be using?
[13:13] <Cube_> jrib: should i run "ufw enable"?
[13:13] <jrib> Cube_: I would leave it be.  If you need to block a port for some reason, then block it
[13:13] <Dr_Willis> Cube_:  no services = no ports listining.. windows firewall is often used to keep anything from going OUT as well as in..  Most likely you dont need to worry about any firewall stuff on your linux setup
[13:14] <SaffirePro26> now i tried to reinstall my nvidia driver tree times. in synaptic, with 'apt-get --purge remove nvidia*; sudo apt-get --purge autoremove; sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' command and with envyng. Neither fix my problem. A week ago or two i tried to install a driver manually guded by a tutorial on net. I have forgotten where i found it and i dont remember the driver version i installed. The system works ok but no matter what i do i
[13:14] <SaffirePro26> cant get desktop effects nor compiz working. I really want to resolve this. Any one hardcore graphic driver professionals here to help? :)
[13:14] <Dr_Willis> Cube_:  all teh malware out for windows.. prompts peopel to block 'unsual' traffic going out.. also windows can block based on application. linux dosent work that way. it does it based on port.
[13:14] <RioKuro> does anybody know a way to make a dvd with say 4 different ubuntu versions on it?
[13:15] <Cube_> Dr_Willis: jrib: okok. so just leave it that way, it will be alright right?
[13:15] <RioKuro> sorry if it's a double post, didn't know if it got in
[13:15] <jrib> Cube_: you're fine.  Just stick to the repositories for your software and start using your system
[13:16] <ditty_kong> SaffirePro26: There is a simple script i Know of that checks for compiz compatability and then tells you waht to do
[13:16] <Cube_> jrib: oh ok lol. i often download external software thought
[13:16] <jrib> Cube_: like what?
[13:16] <SaffirePro26> ditty_kong: ive tried that
[13:17] <ditty_kong> and what did it say?
[13:17] <Cube_> jrib: anything thats not in the repos but i need. idk in particular
[13:17] <catalin205> how can I set up a dns zone for a website on my ubuntu server ?
[13:17] <SaffirePro26> i had compiz working earlier
[13:17] <jrib> Cube_: ok
[13:18] <SaffirePro26> every thing is compatible. but i ¤"%/¤"/%" up something
[13:18] <vigo> RioKuro: Like a 4 version that each have a GRUB selection?
[13:19] <RioKuro> vigo: yeah like that
[13:19] <naymyowin> ့နပ
[13:19] <naymyowin> who wil help me
[13:19] <mehrsteckdose> Anyone else have experience with Bug #124406 "Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat?" https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/124406  --- I'm thinking of starting a support group. =)
[13:20] <ro_> Hello everyone, I am currently having problems with my wifi, I don't get any dhcp offers. The wifi works on windows, and has worked on ubuntu in the past, so unlikely to be a hardware problem. Might be something in my /etc/network/interfaces file.
[13:20] <vigo> RioKuro: Yes, I have done that with a few distros, it can get messy, it is possible.
[13:20] <JonathanEllis> ﻿I have some sound problems and having googled I am now really confused. Can someone please explain what ALSA, OSS, ESD, JACK and PULSE are? Why are there so many parts to the sound system? What do they do? Which should I be using?
[13:20] <SaffirePro26> now i tried to reinstall my nvidia driver tree times. in synaptic, with 'apt-get --purge remove nvidia*; sudo apt-get --purge autoremove; sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' command and with envyng. Neither fix my problem. A week ago or two i tried to install a driver manually guded by a tutorial on net. I have forgotten where i found it and i dont remember the driver version i installed. The system works ok but no matter what i do i
[13:20] <SaffirePro26>  cant get desktop effects nor compiz working. I really want to resolve this. Any one hardcore graphic driver professionals here to help? :)
[13:20] <nowimproved> for some reason after I rebotted my mouse wont work
[13:20] <asai> join #ubuntu-no
[13:20] <RioKuro> vigo: i've seen it before in magazine dvd's 'n stuff. I'd like to have a dvd with an LTS version, the latest version of ubuntu, Xubuntu and a small ftp iso of Archlinux
[13:21] <RioKuro> vigo: and if it's possible the 64bit and 32bit versions of all :P
[13:22] <iceroot> how to remove ubuntu-desktop? so that gnome and the rest is gone? sudo apt-get purge ubuntu-desktop will only remove the metapackage (57kb)
[13:22] <nikolaj> I have no sound, my card is a soundblaster 16 anyone who can help me?
[13:23] <ditty_kong> iceroot: after you run purge try apt-get autoremove
[13:23] <bazhang> iceroot, you want purekde?
[13:23] <iceroot> bazhang: xfce4
[13:23] <jiohdi> morning
[13:23] <vigo> RioKuro: Yes, I did one with Debian/Lenny, gNewSense, Ubuntu 8.04.2 LTS and then threw in a RedHat , all 32bit, that was one of the parts that made or did not make breakage.
[13:23] <mgolisch> soundblaster 16? is that a pci card or isa?
[13:23] <mgolisch> lol
[13:23] <mgolisch> unbelievable people still use old stuff like that
[13:23] <bazhang> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce iceroot
[13:24] <frogzoo1> yeah, in australia we arrest the kangaroo
[13:24] <frogzoo1> mt
[13:24] <iceroot> bazhang: i just want to remove ubuntu-desktop correctly
[13:24] <bazhang> iceroot, check that link
[13:24] <iceroot> bazhang: sudo apt-get purge ubuntu-desktop && sudo apt-get autoremove will only clean up 57k
[13:24] <iceroot> bazhang: hm, ok
[13:25] <vigo> RioKuro: This is kinda #off-topic, so I head there now.
[13:25] <bazhang> iceroot, I know. it is a metapackage
[13:25] <jiohdi> what is wrong with the ubuntu desktop?
[13:25] <bazhang> jiohdi, what do you mean
[13:25] <iceroot> jiohdi: to big, to slow, to much ram and so on
[13:25] <jiohdi> what is a better replacement?
[13:25] <iceroot> jiohdi: xfce4
[13:26] <bazhang> jiohdi, there is no better, try what suits you and your system
[13:26] <iceroot> jiohdi: aka xubuntu-desktop
[13:26] <jiohdi> I am a born again ubuntu user because mint never worked right on my system
[13:26] <jiohdi> ubuntu works just fine
[13:27] <Cube_> how can i make my cron job write "I ran at TIME/DATE" to a file? and then every time i run it it appends a new line!?
[13:27] <RioKuro> vigo: ok meet you there
[13:27] <nikolaj_s> mgolisch, i don't know. it's a notebook, Hp pavillion dv6-1100eo
[13:28] <Googledidnthelp> How can I restart an internal USB wifi card? Sometimes when I boot the card doesn't initialize properly and I have to reboot to make it work. Obviously this is a less than  ideal solution. Any ideas?
[13:28] <ditty_kong> Debian -> Ubuntu -> Mint.... They are all the same for the most part, at least in the way they work and in how you customize them
[13:28] <macgyver_> hi guys, mind if I ask a quick question
[13:29] <macgyver_> I have a windows 7 box here on the network, I can RDP to it from Jaunty, but I cannot connect to any shares on it, is this a known issue?
[13:29] <jiohdi> ditty, it seemed that way until mint started crashing big time...
[13:29] <joaopinto> macgyver_, have you checked the firewall settings on the windows box ?
[13:30] <macgyver_> yea its all off for the test
[13:30] <Googledidnthelp> macgyver_: Have you enabled sharing on the Windows7 PC? Do you have a password set for the account that owns the files/folders you want to remotely connect to?
[13:30] <macgyver_> Googledidnthelp, yep, and yep
[13:31] <Googledidnthelp> macgyver_: Are you prompted for a password on Jaunty? Do you enter the password when trying to connect?
[13:31] <ditty_kong> Googledidnthelp: Actually I have the same problem you do. Its weird because it only happens to me in Ubuntu. Other distros dont have that weird behavior. I have had no luck fixing it either
[13:31] <macgyver_> yes, it constantly comes back asking
[13:32] <macgyver_> I can see the boxes in the network browser
[13:32] <nikolaj_s> mgolisch, does my information help you
[13:32] <joseph> Can I install Xubuntu 9.04 onto an old iMac 500?  Tried it before but it only goes to boot prompts.
[13:32] <joseph> Right now running Ubuntu 4.10 on the iMac.
[13:32] <tuxi> joseph, what hardware does the iMac 500 have?
[13:32] <tuxi> (dunno the hardware of iMacs)
[13:33] <joseph> Factory standards 20 gig hard drive, 784 RAM, 24X CD (no writer), and no airport card.
[13:33] <Googledidnthelp> ditty_kong: That's unfortunate. Guess I'll just keep performing reboots. I tried sudo depmod -a but to no avail. I have to be careful with the commands I run as the only keyboard to this computer is an internally connected wireless  USB keyboard. Makes me re-think owning a media center PC.
[13:33] <joaopinto> macgyver_, I would try to connect manually from the terminal using smbclient, it may provide a better error
[13:33] <macgyver_> maybe yes
[13:33] <tuxi> should be okay, just give it a try
[13:33] <macgyver_> what is the basic command for smbclient?
[13:34] <jimd> If I want to have my laptop invoke the pm-suspend-hybrid (write the hibernation and go to sleep) when the lid is closed ... how do I configure ACPI to do that (under Jaunty)
[13:34] <macgyver_> I did try a couple of methods and it didnt help
[13:34] <joseph> It boots but only to the prompts and has no video detection for the iMac.
[13:34] <ditty_kong> Tell me about it. I thought I had solved it by doing automatic logins at boot but it started acting up again a few days later. It is strange
[13:34] <gangil> Hi , since I updated my system and my screen flickers and freezes when I run firefox(v 3.0) , help!
[13:34] <joseph> Tried upgrading through terminals and the other 6.06 did not write correctly.
[13:35] <joaopinto> macgyver_, smbclient -U user \\\\IP\\SERVICE
[13:35] <nikolaj_s> Is there anyone who have a soundblaster 16 in the computer?
[13:35] <joseph> Guessing I should not complain though at least the iMac runs.
[13:35] <jelg> slart: thanks, the apt-get did the trick
[13:36] <gangil> :-/
[13:36] <robertj> hey all, does anyone know of an easy way to throttle a cp? I'm copying a virtual machine img that takes about half an hour and its really killing my system performance
[13:37] <macgyver_> joaopinto, --> smbclient -U user \\\\IP\\SERVICE --> smbclient -U user \\\\IP\\SERVICE
[13:37] <iamleneko> who succeed not having screen scrambled when using compiz (after something like 1 hour of use) with the intel drivers ?
[13:37] <gangil>  Hi , since I updated my system and my screen flickers and freezes when I run firefox(v 3.0) , help! :(
[13:37] <jrib> robertj: ionice or nice is probably what you want
[13:37] <macgyver_> joaopinto, --> smbclient -u macgyver \\\\192.168.1.150\\DATA --> Not enough '\' characters in service
[13:38] <JonathanEllis> I have an onboard sound card which works but doesnt have a game/midi port. I also have a PCI sound card which does have a midi/game port but its sound output is noise. So I want to use the on-board card for sound and the PCI for midi & joystick functionality. Trouble is, when I have both the on-board card enabled and the PCI card installed, I have little control over where the sound comes out. System sounds in particular dont seem to have any way t
[13:38] <joaopinto> macgyver_, you must be missing some \, it is really \\\\IP\\SHARE
[13:39] <joaopinto> macgyver_, its -U not -u, case matters
[13:39] <joaopinto> macgyver_, aldo read: man smbclient
[13:40] <macgyver_> joaopinto, got a weird error
[13:40] <oskar-> macgyver_:  have you tried it with the normal linux syntax //192.168.1.150/DATA ?
[13:40] <macgyver_> macgyver@MacOps:~$ smbclient -U macgyver \\\\192.168.1.150\\DATA  -- Enter macgyver's password:  --- session setup failed: SUCCESS - 0
[13:40] <AussieGuy> will 2 dhcp servers always conflict if their on the same network or can they be configured to co-exist?
[13:40] <complexity> all of a sudden after a reboot, my ps2 mouse does not work, it works fine on the live cd
[13:40] <robertj> jrib: survey says...no good, firefox crashes at start even after sudo ionitce -p 8228 -c3
[13:41] <robertj> hrmm, started working now
[13:41] <robertj> guess it took a bit
[13:45] <jimd> Well, I guess I'll try just moving lid.sh out of the way and linking hibernate.sh to lid.sh in /etc/acpi .. see what that breaks
[13:45] <Amerigo> I upgraded to Windows 7 and now Ubuntu won't boot up. It says I need to boot with the disk and repair it, but there's no repair option.
[13:46] <mbeierl> Is there a fix anywhere for the F-Spot facebook export extension crashing?  I've seen various ubuntu bug reports but no work around or hint of fix yet.
[13:46] <oskar-> !grub | Amerigo
[13:47] <CzarAlex> If Ubuntu detects my wireless card out of the box (fresh install) Kubuntu will do the same, right?
[13:47] <oskar-> CzarAlex:  yes
[13:47] <CzarAlex> Thank you oskar-
[13:47] <mac_v> does anyone know where i could set the rfkill switch state to "OFF" for the iwl3945 acer-wireless?
[13:48] <Amerigo> Thank you.
[13:49] <om26er> i have just installed ubuntu base system and now i want to install some essentials without the internet so is there a way to install those packages from the alternate cd
[13:49] <Neconide> hey guys
[13:50] <elementz_> ho can i add a line to a textfile, eg: echo line1 > foo.txt, now how do i get echo to write to the second line? i tried via echo -e \n fooline2 > myfile.txt but that did not work
[13:50] <Neconide> will there be any problem if I'm dual booting with ubuntu, if I restore via the factory image drive?
[13:50] <jrib> elementz_: >>
[13:51] <elementz_> jrib: that simple, hrmpf, thx
[13:51] <jrib> elementz_: yep, >> appends
[13:51] <elementz> jrib: good to know. ;-)
[13:51] <Evet> Hi sometimes I cant reach internet sites, but IRC works Why?
[13:51] <orschiro> hi guys, I booted from the current live iso and wanted to backup my /home that currently is stored on the root partition on a usb media. a sudo cp -a copies my whole home but it does not save the personal file rights. how can I copy them too?
[13:52] <jrib> orschiro: why wouldn't it?
[13:52] <oskar-> Evet:  a wrong proxy setting in the browser or a not working proxy server in between
[13:52] <jrib> orschiro: oh you are using sude
[13:52] <epsilon_> om63er: As far as I know, if you open Software Sources, you can choose to install from your CD. I don't think it has anything that isn't included in the default installation though.
[13:53] <orschiro> it gaves me the output that it can not gain the owner
[13:53] <Googledidnthelp> orschiro: sudo cp -p    p=preserve attrib
[13:53] <joaopinto> orschiro, cp -a does keep privileges, unless your destionation is not ext3
[13:53] <jrib> orschiro: I think a better idea is to use tar
[13:53] <joaopinto> Googledidnthelp, -a includes -p
[13:53] <Evet> oskar-, no im not using proxy. and other PCs in my network can reach web sites. i cant. it happens suddenly. like now
[13:53] <fission6> has anyone here run audacity in ubuntu
[13:53] <joaopinto> orschiro, if the target is not unix-capable, like ntfs, you will need to use archiving, like tar
[13:54] <orschiro> I think it's capable because it's a fat usb media but tar sounds like a good idea :)
[13:54] <orschiro> so simply tar my whole /home?
[13:54] <jrib> orschiro: fat doesn't have unix-style permissions
[13:54] <orschiro> and then after installation extract it?
[13:54] <jrib> orschiro: sure
[13:54] <mac_v>  does anyone know where i could set the rfkill switch state to "OFF" for the iwl3945 acer-wireless? right now , i'm having to turn the wireless ON everytime i reboot
[13:54] <orschiro> ah nice to know - thank you guys ;)
[13:55] <Neconide> Will I have any issues if I restore via factory image while dual booting with ubuntu?
[13:55] <Googledidnthelp> Neconide: In most cases yes, factory disks often wipe the drive
[13:55] <vigo> Neconide: Make a backup and don't worry about it.
[13:56] <Googledidnthelp> Neconide: It's not an issue if you don't mind re-installing Ubuntu
[13:56] <mehrsteckdose> Anyone else have experience with Bug #124406 "Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat?" https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/124406  --- I'm thinking of starting a support group. =)
[13:57] <oskar-> Evet:  does name resolution work? "nslookup www.bla.com"  -- can you "telnet www.bla.com 80" and get a connection?
[13:57] <Neconide> vigo: I appreciate the not-so-much-an-answer, but I want some straightforward information or odds.
[13:58] <orschiro> hmm are you sure that I have the rights to create a tar as live iso user?
[13:58] <Evet> no, cant reach telnet, ssh, ping etc.
[13:58] <Googledidnthelp> Neconide: Are you trying to restore a store bought PC using the factory restore discs?
[13:58] <orschiro> I receive permission denied errors
[13:58] <Evet> oskar-, can it be a virus or worm?
[13:58] <vigo> Neconide: I was just giving my best been-there-done that suggestion.
[13:58] <Forza4Life> hello everyone
[13:59] <Roland> I discovered something strange... whenever i connect a second monitor to my laptop and enable it in " nvidia X server settings ", the gnome panel will freeze( time freezes, right click doesn't work ).. anyone heard of a bug like this?
[13:59] <oskar-> Evet:  is it a windows operating system? ;)
[13:59] <homovitruvius> Hi there! I moved my PC to serve as a mediacenter connected to my 1920x1080 TV. Running Ubuntu 9.04. The new resolution is recognized w/o config changes, but some of the fonts (like the content of the gdb login/password fields, but not their labels) are humongous. What configuration setting  should I touch?
[13:59] <Forza4Life> im a brand new ubuntu user
[14:00] <Evet> oskar- lol. ofcourse not, it's 8.06. but xp installed pc can reach internet completely :\
[14:00] <Googledidnthelp> Forza4Life: Did you need help with something?
[14:00] <Forza4Life> well, i have a hauppage external usb tv tuner and i cant seem to get it working
[14:01] <Forza4Life> totem seems very close to being able to work  but wants some plugin
[14:01] <Forza4Life> what plugin is it looking for
[14:01] <om26er> i have just installed ubuntu base system and now i want to install some essentials without the internet so is there a way to install those packages from the alternate cd
[14:02] <Googledidnthelp> Forza4Life: Hard to say from my end, Totem doesn't say what it's searching for?
[14:02] <Forza4Life> no  it just says it is missing a required plugin
[14:02] <Forza4Life> i got to synaptic and dont find anything specific
[14:03] <Googledidnthelp> om26er: Only if they're included on the disc, an install CD does not contain all of the packages available to an Ubuntu user.
[14:03] <Forza4Life> ill do some more googling
[14:03] <Googledidnthelp> om26er:  You can download the packages on an internet connected machine and then install them using a USB stick, CD, DVD, etc...
[14:03] <Forza4Life> gotta be something out there
[14:04] <Googledidnthelp> Forza4Life: Try googleing the model of the tuner card with ubuntu jaunty tacked on to t search
[14:07] <spudCakePie> hey, im having trouble with my keyboard.. the A key doesnt work in gnome-terminal or xterm.
[14:08] <spudCakePie> when I try to change keyboard layout i get this message, http://pastebay.com/34183
[14:08] <jimd> For the benefit of anyone searching the irclogs (hello Googlebot) I'll confirm that moving the lid.sh out of the way and linking /etc/acpi/hibernate.sh to the name lid.sh does, in fact, seem to change the event handling for closing your laptop lid.
[14:08] <spudCakePie> this is a laptop with two keyboard attached, the A key doesnt work on either of them but it works in other applications.
[14:09] <Tankado> How can i access my trash ?
[14:09] <Tankado> i want to restore a file i deleted
[14:09] <spudCakePie> ~/.Trash last i looked
[14:09] <spudCakePie> where did you delete it from?
[14:09] <Tankado> the desktop
[14:09] <Tankado> is there no icon for trash can ?
[14:09] <vikas> I have windows XP installed on HD and ubuntu on SD card. Can i install grub on first partition of HD so that when computer starts it will load grub from HD and search for Ubuntu on SD card. If not found then it loads windows which is on HD ?
[14:10] <legend2440> !trash | Tankado
[14:10] <Tankado> thanks
[14:11] <Tankado> Anyone familiar with a good text comparsion tools/application ?
[14:12] <Myrtti> Tankado: meld is quite nice
[14:12] <spudCakePie> classic way is to use a diff
[14:12] <mehrsteckdose> Anyone else have experience with Bug #124406 "Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat?" https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/124406  --- I'm thinking of starting a support group. =)
[14:12] <Tankado> Myrtti : thank you will check it out
[14:12] <cordor> is it possible to have window on top of  fullscreen video playback?
[14:14] <rinovan> how to setup Canon ip1980 on jaunty amd64?
[14:14] <Halitech> cordor, not sure if it will work but you could right click the title bar of the app you want on top, selecting always on top and then go full screen with your video
[14:14] <Titan8990_> throw it out and buy an HP
[14:14] <Tankado> btw sorry for the newbie question but what is the auto completion keys for the terminal ? (if it exists)
[14:14] <spudCakePie> tab
[14:14] <Tankado> ahh ofcourse thanks
[14:14] <cordor> Halitech: nope, tried that.
[14:14] <SubJimbo> Evening everyone :)
[14:15] <eddi> hello
[14:15] <Halitech> cordor, ok, only thing I could think of
[14:15] <Threetimes> Hi, I jave a very old 300dpi (!) printer, and I cannot really print bitmaps with it. Text and pdf-drawings look fine. Can I print a roite from Google Earth with this printer?
[14:15] <Halitech> rinovan, you don't http://openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Canon-IP_1980
[14:16] <spudCakePie> goddam it guys my A key doenst work in the terminal but it works in vim running in the terminal... same applies to Xterm
[14:16] <cordor> Halitech: thanks. anyway. :) maybe i will just maximize the playback window
[14:16] <sniff^> my ubuntu slow
[14:16] <rinovan> Halitech, can't?
[14:16] <oskar-> sniff^:  on what hardware?
[14:16] <Halitech> rinovan, openprinting says it is a paperweight
[14:16] <cordor> sniff^: find out what's using all the resources.
[14:17] <sniff^> firefox-3.5
[14:17] <SubJimbo> Hm, VNC showing a Grey screen when running as a user..  but not when running 'sudo vncserver' from terminal?
[14:17] <sniff^> firefox-3.5 26% cpu
[14:18] <Evet> oskar-, my internet down again :)
[14:18] <eps1lon> How can I remove the configuration files for the avant window navigator?
[14:19] <oskar-> Evet:  does name resolution work? "nslookup www.bla.com"  -- can you "telnet www.bla.com 80" and get a connection?
[14:19] <Evet> oskar-, no,not only IRC works
[14:19] <Vock> Just had a question about ssh, if I'm on A ssh'ing into B, and from the terminal on B i can navigate to the file I want to scp over, is there an easy way to just scp the file over from the command line in B?
[14:20] <Evet> oskar-, and aMSN
[14:20] <Threetimes> Hi, I jave a very old b/w 300dpi (!) printer, and I cannot really print bitmaps with it (i'll look like fog, unless it actually is). Text and pdf-drawings look fine. Can I print a roite from Google Earth with this printer?
[14:21] <jimd> Vock: if you used Kermit as your terminal (configuring it to communication over the ssh tunnel) than you could kermit the file across the ssh connection.
[14:22] <Halitech> Threetimes, you should be able to, just make sure you uncheck including the map
[14:22] <jimd> However, I don't know if any way to do that with the normal ssh client.
[14:22] <Vock> jimd: thanks
[14:22] <oskar-> Evet:  can you ping the router in you network? which nameserver do you use? does that machine have problems?
[14:24] <sipior> Vock: scp works in both directions. simply try "scp filename <A>:".
[14:24] <jimd> I suppose someone could hack in a file transfer feature as a ~ command.  ([Enter]~ is an escape/prefix combination in ssh, just as it is with the old cu and rlogin commands).
[14:24] <Evet> oskar-, yes i can ping router. 192.168.1.1 my nameserver. and other pcs in my network has no any problem
[14:24] <SubJimbo> Anybody know why VNC shows a grey screen on a remote client when running 'vncserver' from the terminal, but not when i use 'sudo vncserver'? I dont want to be runnign the desktop as root.
[14:24] <Guest6082> Need some help
[14:24] <jimd> sipior: scp might not work coming back in if he's gone out through a NAT'ed route.
[14:25] <sipior> jimd: well, that's true.
[14:25] <Halitech> !ask | Guest6082
[14:25] <Guest6082> my sprint air card quit working after doing upgrade yesterday in Karmic
[14:25] <Guest6082> ok
[14:25] <oskar-> jimd:  file transfer with ssh? simple: cat file | ssh host "cat > file-copy"
[14:25] <jimd> sipior: ... and it's a VERY common situation these days.
[14:25] <soccos> why would synaptic report 3.0.11+build2+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.8.10.1 as the latest on jaunty (I want 3.0.12)
[14:25] <sniff^> my ubuntu slow
[14:25] <Vock> thanks guys
[14:25] <mrwes> jimd, or you could use scp to transfer files
[14:25] <sipior> jimd: easily worked around with port forwarding, but i grant your point.
[14:25] <soccos> why would synaptic report 3.0.11+build2+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.8.10.1 as the latest firefox on jaunty (I want 3.0.12)
[14:26] <Myrtti> soccos: patience!
[14:26] <Guest6082> my air card quit working after upgrade in Karmic...any thoughts?
[14:26] <soccos> Myrtti: I'm pretty sure that package is released on?
[14:26] <jimd> mrwes: He was asking about initiating a file transfer (scp or other) through his existing ssh connection
[14:26] <Myrtti> !karmic > Guest6082
[14:26] <soccos> Mytti: no?
[14:27] <soccos> Myrtti: no? (my fingers don't work today)
[14:27] <indus> anyone knows about dvd roms not being detected in 9.04 AMD chipset http://kerneltrap.org/mailarchive/git-commits-head/2008/6/14/2122314
[14:27] <oskar-> Evet:  what kind of router is it, if i may ask? because i had a similar problem long ago with a netgear dsl router
[14:27] <Guest6082> ok thanks
[14:27] <Myrtti> soccos: it might be (can't remember for sure) that it might actually be basically .11 that has been patched to be effectively .12.
[14:27] <Jordanmota> what best program to extract a rar file?
[14:27] <Qu4R0w> my box with xp+ubuntu+bt4.i use ubuntu 9.04..but at boot option(grub) i can see ubuntu 8.10..i press it and it load bt4..y this happen?
[14:27] <indus> Jordanmota: unrar from synaptic
[14:28] <Myrtti> Jordanmota: if you've got unrar installed, normal fileroller should be able to extract rar files fine
[14:28] <indus> Jordanmota: install package unrar non free, then just right click your file
[14:28] <indus> yeah
[14:28] <Jordanmota> indus: thank you buddy
[14:28] <indus> welcome buddy
[14:29] <indus> anyone solve my problem?
[14:29] <indus> anyone knows about dvd roms not being detected in 9.04 AMD chipset http://kerneltrap.org/mailarchive/git-commits-head/2008/6/14/2122314
[14:29] <Evet> oskar-, its Zyxel P600 wireless adsl modem, and all PCs connects wireless
[14:29] <om26er>  ok i installed ubuntu base system and now i want to install some gnome essential without internet
[14:29] <oskar-> Evet:  ok, i don't know zyxel. but my problem was
[14:30] <soccos> Myrtti: synaptic on 8.04 is reporting ff 3.0.12 as being available - i'm wondering if something's gone wrong with my sources.list after my recent upgrade to jaunty?
[14:30] <Free-Lancer> How can i automaticly merge all words into one line in a text file
[14:30] <Myrtti> soccos: could be
[14:30] <sipior> jimd: actually, it occurs to me that simply specifying a reverse tunnel with "-R" would allow you to scp files back irrespective of NAT. unfortunately, the guy who asked the question seems to have left already :-)
[14:30] <Myrtti> soccos: you should be able to update to it though
[14:31] <Orfeous> what requires to run an X11 forwarding to start a X11 application on my remote host?
[14:31] <oskar-> Evet:  ok, i don't know zyxel. but my problem was, that ubuntu tried some sort of ipv6 or AAAA name resolution. i could fix it by disabling ipv6
[14:31] <Orfeous> using windows on remote host
[14:31] <om26er> !clone
[14:31] <sbeh> hi, i copied my / (Ubuntu Jaunty) to a fileserver, installed pxegrub, changed menu.lst (ip=dhcp root=/dev/nfs nfsroot=auto) and everything works fine, it gets started, init runs its tasks, X comes up, but no login-screen appears, it just showing the animated 'please wait'-mouse-icon
[14:31] <Evet> oskar-, which version of ubuntu u were using?
[14:31] <Free-Lancer> How can i automaticly merge all words into one line in a text file
[14:31] <soccos> Myrtti: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jaunty main universe restricted multiverse ??
[14:31] <soccos> Myrtti: that's it!
[14:31] <jimd> I guess there is a ~ command for setting up additional tunnels?
[14:32] <oskar-> Evet:  i don't know any more, it must have been 7.10 or a bit later...
[14:32] <sbeh> Free-Lancer: xargs echo >newfile <oldfile
[14:32] <jimd> I've never used it so I don't remember the details.
[14:32] <sipior> jimd: yes, ~C
[14:32] <sbeh> Free-Lancer: this only words for small files
[14:32] <sbeh> s/words/works/
[14:33] <Evet> oskar-, Hmm. Thanks for advice, i will try to disable ipv6, on my 8.06
[14:33] <oshua86> Does anybody know of a good guide or anyone that can help me configure dual monitor with a laptop that uses an ATI radeon HD?
[14:33] <oskar-> Evet:  8.04? ;)
[14:33] <Evet> oskar-, yes 8.04, sry :)
[14:33] <Prentice> hi
[14:33] <jimd> sipior: Yeah, so I see.
[14:33] <Free-Lancer> sbeh Ah yes just what i was looking for, How do you mean it only works for small files though?
[14:34] <jimd> I'll have to play with that some time.
[14:34] <Evet> oskar-, 9.06 doesnt work on my netbook. I couldn't reach gnome after update
[14:34] <sbeh> oskar-: goto System->Preferences->Display
[14:34] <pepperjack> !xinerama | oshua86 may help
[14:34] <Prentice> anyone here willing to start contributing to a new ubuntu wiki? If so please visit http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1225228
[14:34] <sbeh> oshua86: goto System->Preferences->Display
[14:35] <maettu> silly problem: I have a directory under subversion control, then upgraded from 8.04 to 9.04, had to downgrade because of issues and now I can't use subversion in 8.04 on that dir any more, because it complains that the svn client is too old. apt-get says, subversion is the newest version.
[14:35] <sbeh> Free-Lancer: xargs starts multiple echo's if the commandline is too long, you have one line per echo then
[14:36] <hr_> #join casa
[14:36] <sbeh> maettu: load a binary package of subversion from subversion.tigris.org
[14:37] <Mouse> ok guys I have a logitech webcam and when I try to use it the cam is soo blurry that nobody can see anything but my silouette this is what dmesg tells me http://www.pastebin.org/4702
[14:37] <sbeh> maettu: you may delete it later, if you're going to upgrade
[14:37] <Mouse> ok guys I have a logitech webcam and when I try to use it the cam is soo blurry that nobody can see anything but my silouette this is what dmesg tells me http://www.pastebin.org/4702 and now it wont even show up just gives me a white screen
[14:37] <Prentice> 1repeat
[14:37] <indus> Mouse: Intall xawtv package from synaptic ,then adjust brightness from there
[14:37] <Prentice> !repeat
[14:38] <Prentice> anyone here willing to start contributing to a new ubuntu wiki? If so please visit http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1225228
[14:38] <pierr> how can i run terminal from live cd at boot?
[14:38] <hr_> #join casa
[14:39] <maettu> sbeh: there aren't any, just a link to packages.ubuntu.com
[14:39] <asfjio> hello, how can i install sybase client on my ubuntu?
[14:39] <pierr> i need to repair grub, just installed win7, can somebody help me
[14:39] <sipior> hr_: "/join"
[14:39] <janisoza1r> !grub | pierr
[14:39] <pierr> janisoza1r yes, but tell me how to run terminal from live CD
[14:40] <janisoza1r> pierr: alt-f2, gnome-terminal
[14:40] <BitTorrent> Can I use SSL (socket secure layer) in this channel? How do that? please.
[14:41] <janisoza1r> BitTorrent: i guess it's not channel dependent, but network/server-dependent. ask at #freenode, or look at their site
[14:42] <CrAzYoNi> Hi all,
[14:42] <CrAzYoNi> I have Cisco SOHO router (old one... not wifi)
[14:42] <Mouse> ok so that package I got I have been messing with the settings but none of it makes it any better it's just really really dark
[14:42] <Prentice> anyone here willing to start contributing to a new ubuntu wiki? If so please visit http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1225228
[14:43] <CrAzYoNi> I should configure it via Terminal in Windows I have hyperterminal \ putty, I'm configuring to work on Serial \ COM port & it run.
[14:43] <CrAzYoNi> While in Ubuntu Jaunty I'm starting Putty & trying to run it from Serial (Putty writes me /dev/ttyS0 I'm getting error
[14:43] <BitTorrent> janisoza1r: I would try it. Security is very important to me. thank's.
[14:44] <CrAzYoNi> Error message: Unable to configure Serial port.
[14:44] <sipior> Prentice: what's wrong with the wiki we already have?
[14:44] <CrAzYoNi> How can I make sure that /dev/ttyS0 is refer to my COM1 port?
[14:44] <Mouse> indus, I got that package you told me but nothing i do with the settings makes it any brighter it just stays really really dark
[14:44] <janisoza1r> Prentice: i wrote an article or two for original ubuntu wiki, can't you just pull them into your project?
[14:45] <janisoza1r> Prentice: also, what sipior said.
[14:45] <lng> hi! how restart sound?
[14:45] <janisoza1r> lng: bing-bam-ba-bing
[14:45] <janisoza1r> ;)
[14:46] <lng> janisoza1r: so many lamers on Ubuntu
[14:46] <om26er> ?
[14:46] <geent1> Join irc.freenode.net #flossk
[14:46] <funkyHat> lng: pkill pulse && pulse-session
[14:47] <The_Toxic_Mite> Hello, is there any way I can download the "b43-fwcutter" package so that I can install it later? I am on a Windows XP machine by the way
[14:47] <janisoza1r> lng: /etc/init.d/pulseaudio restart?
[14:47] <hr_> hello
[14:47] <hr_> hi every body
[14:47] <hr_> i have a probleme
[14:47] <lng> is it pulaudio?
[14:47] <Halitech> !hi | hr_
[14:47] <funkyHat> janisoza1r: that will only work with system-wide pulse set up, which is not the default
[14:47] <Evet> hi hr_  Whotta your problema
[14:47] <lng> pulsaudio
[14:47] <timewriter> lsmod
[14:47] <janisoza1r> funkyHat: oh, ok.
[14:48] <hr_> halitech a have a probleme of sound on my coputer
[14:48] <lng> janisoza1r: sudo alsa force-reload
[14:48] <DJones> The_Toxic_Mite: You should be able to download it from packages.ubuntu.com to a usb key
[14:48] <funkyHat> lng: I've just told you the command to restart pulseaudio
[14:48] <Halitech> hr_, what kind of problem? what sound card?
[14:49] <haskellnoob> How do I get networking to start automatically at boot? My laptop's wireless connection does not start up when I boot the machine, but I can get it up by typing "sudo service networking restart" on the command line. How do I make this happen automatically at boot time?
[14:49] <Gabbie> Hi quick question, when installing ubuntu server edition you get that nice screen up asking what servery stuff you want to install, how can I get that up again after?
[14:49] <DJones> The_Toxic_Mite: I can't get the direct link for you because packages.ubuntu.com isn't working for me at the minute
[14:49] <Halitech> Gabbie, run sudo tasksel from the terminal should work
[14:49] <haskellnoob> I guess writing a cron job to run at boot time is one way, but isn't there a cleaner way? Isn't the /etc/network/interfaces supposed to be honoured at bootup?
[14:50] <hr_> Halitech i don't speek english flowentelly to explique the probleme
[14:50] <Halitech> hr_, what is your native language?
[14:50]  * wojciech_ ziewa
[14:50] <hr_> french
[14:50] <Gabbie> Halitech, thanks!
[14:50] <funkyHat> !fr
[14:50] <Myrtti> hr_: /join #ubuntu-fr then
[14:50] <Halitech> !fr| hr_
[14:50] <sipior> haskellnoob: can you pastebin a sanitised version of your /etc/network/interfaces?
[14:50]  * wojciech_ ziewa głośniej :D
[14:50] <Myrtti> !pl | wojciech_
[14:51] <haskellnoob> sipior: in a minute
[14:51] <Halitech> Gabbie, if that doesn't work you could just manually add the packages you need
[14:51] <hr_> halitech cane u help me
[14:51] <hr_> ?
[14:51] <Halitech> hr_, not if you can't explain the problem in english
[14:53] <hr_> i have a probleme of my card sound it is not detectable on my coputer a try to reinstall ALSA but not result
[14:53] <Halitech> hr_, use pastebin and post the results of lspci
[14:53] <hr_> haltec i make a   aplay -l on a terminale
[14:53] <haskellnoob> My /etc/network/interfaces is here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/235209/
[14:54] <hr_> i have a msg  ''not card sound detected''
[14:55] <hr_> halitech
[14:55] <Gnea> !sound | hr_
[14:56] <sipior> haskellnoob: do any errors get dumped in the system log at the first failure upon bootup? does the card need to load firmware before iwconfig touches it?
[14:56] <Halitech> hr_, waiting for the output of lspci
[14:57] <haskellnoob> sipior: how do i check these?
[14:57] <haskellnoob> dmesg | grep -i network outputs one line which has no error messages in it
[14:58] <sipior> haskellnoob: i'd start in /var/log/messages. firmware loading should be mentioned in dmesg, iirc.
[14:58] <Qu4R0w> i install bt4 on /dev/sda8 but in nautilus,i cant open that partition..
[14:58] <pkkm> is there any Ubuntu lightscribe driver & program?
[14:58] <haskellnoob> sipior: what would be a string to look for in firmware loading messages?
[14:58] <hr_> halitech    .............................hr@hr-laptop:~$ lspci
[14:58] <hr_> 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Memory Controller Hub (rev 07)
[14:58] <hr_> 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset PCI Express Graphics Port (rev 07)
[14:58] <hr_> 00:1a.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #4 (rev 03)
[14:58] <hr_> 00:1a.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #5 (rev 03)
[14:58] <FloodBot2> hr_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:58] <hr_> 00:1a.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #6 (rev 03)
[14:59] <sipior> haskellnoob: "firmware" would be a good first choice :-)
[14:59] <Besogon> Is NFS or SMB better at home? It seems that NFS must have got server....
[14:59] <haskellnoob> sipior: thanks :)
[14:59] <Halitech> !paste | hr_
[14:59] <timewriter> lol
[15:01] <haskellnoob> sipior: dmesg |grep -i firmware output two lines : the first about iwlagn requesting iwlwifi-5000-2.ucode, and the second saying iwlagn has loaded firmware version 8.24.2.12
[15:01] <sipior> haskellnoob: okay, so it finds the firmware without issue. have a look and see if you're trying to initialise the network before this happens.
[15:03] <haskellnoob> sipior: dmesg |grep -i network outputs just one line, about NetworkManager/nm-dhcp-client.action . In particular, there is no line saying "Configuring networking" or some such. Am I looking in the wrong place?
[15:05] <syr64> Just received new hardware.  Quad core machine with more drive space.  Looking move our LAMP server to it for internet company website.  Which version of server should I use?
[15:05] <Qu4R0w> i try mount n got this error=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jiVvmJ55gQ
[15:05] <Qu4R0w> i try mount n got this error=mount: can't find /dev/sda8/ in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[15:05] <Halitech> syr64, 8.04 server
[15:05] <nevyn> syr64: LTS.
[15:05] <sipior> haskellnoob: try "interface", or just eyeball the dmesg output (it isn't that big)
[15:05] <syr64> Thanks...didn't know if I should try 9.04 or go with the longer support version.
[15:06] <Halitech> syr64, if its a production server, I'd stick with 8.04
[15:06] <syr64> Perfect...thanks for the advise.
[15:06] <Stronghold> hi channel
[15:07] <nevyn> syr64: does this server actually make money for your company?
[15:07] <syr64> No, it is an information website with internal portal for employees
[15:09] <CrAzYoNi> How can I work with my COM port with Putty under Ubuntu?
[15:09] <CrAzYoNi> In windows it is running out-of-the-box
[15:09] <CrAzYoNi> With HyperTerminal or Putty.. or SecureCRT.
[15:10] <sipior> CrAzYoNi: install minicom
[15:10] <CrAzYoNi> Did..
[15:11] <sipior> CrAzYoNi: have you read the manual?
[15:11] <Forza4Life> this is just soo much better than vista
[15:11] <pegassus> hi
[15:11] <CrAzYoNi> I did configured it, though how can I know which of the devices under /dev is my COM port?
[15:11] <Forza4Life> im a new ubuntu user  just installed it last night
[15:11] <jacosis1> hey, I have come into a problem with my system. Some photos can't be open in Ubuntu 9.04, I can't figure out the reason. Because the photos are from the same camera. Some of them can be open, and some can't.
[15:11] <brutus> how do I get lm-sensors to detect my fan speed?
[15:12] <elPolaco> hello
[15:12] <gartral> how do i request current date+time from console
[15:12] <gartral> ?
[15:12] <sipior> CrAzYoNi: generally it will be /dev/ttyS0.
[15:12] <erUSUL> gartral: «date»
[15:12] <Halitech> gartral, date
[15:13] <genii> CrAzYoNi: /dev/ttyS0 thru ttyS3  usually correspond to the Windows concept of COM1 thru COM4
[15:13] <Forza4Life> is there a more laid back channel just for ubuntu chat?
[15:13] <koltroll> Guys. We are considering switching from mac and os x to pc with linux at the office. Does one haft to worry about hardware compatibility when buying the computers? We won't be buying any real high end systems since they are going to be coding stations.
[15:13] <Forza4Life> not so much tech support   but just chat
[15:13] <jrib> !ot | Forza4Life
[15:13] <Halitech> Forza4Life, #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:13] <Pici> Forza4Life: #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:13] <CrAzYoNi> sipior & genii, I thinked so, though they still not working..
[15:13] <Forza4Life> tyty much
[15:13] <koltroll> But for instance when it comes to graphic cards.
[15:13] <koltroll> (it's ubuntu we're going to use)
[15:13] <sipior> CrAzYoNi: is your serial port enabled in bios?
[15:13] <CrAzYoNi> Well I'll try it on another machine with Windows just for making sure that the cable is OK & it's something that I configured wrong.
[15:14] <syr64> Are there GUIs for server?  If so, opinions on running one on a production LAMP server as well as which package to use?
[15:14] <CrAzYoNi> Yes, it was working on Windows on the same machine...
[15:14] <Halitech> syr64, ebox
[15:14] <wrektjet> hey does anyone know how to convert many RAW files at a time into JPG using UFraw? I read on the forums u could do so but I cant figure it out
[15:14] <sipior> CrAzYoNi: is your login a member of the "dialout" group?
[15:14] <OEP> Hi -- I'm having trouble installing 64-bit 9.04 Ubuntu. It boots to the live distribution (without asking) just fine, but I always get a disk read error (from CD and USB). I installed 32-bit 9.04 and it worked just fine.
[15:14] <gartral> syr64: you can install any gui for a server build... but its a waist of resources
[15:14] <Sirisian|Work_> hmm. I used scp to copy a directory from one of my servers to another. When I went to the other server it copied all of the files except for one called smtp-client.pl which is just a mail script. I had to manually scp that single file even though when I copied the directory it listed smtp-client.pl as one of the files transferred over. What would cause that?
[15:15] <jrib> Sirisian|Work_: doesn't make sense
[15:15] <CrAzYoNi> yes
[15:15] <jrib> Sirisian|Work_: try to reproduce the behavior
[15:15] <Sirisian|Work_> jrib, will do
[15:15] <CrAzYoNi> sipior, ^^
[15:15] <Sirisian|Work_> it did it twice actually. I thought maybe the file was being used or something crazy
[15:15] <Halitech> !ebox | syr64
[15:16] <CrAzYoNi> Is it reasonable that Ubuntu didn't detected my COM port because I'm using an kinda old (6-7 years old) main-board?
[15:16] <Kingsy101> can someone tell me which torrent  program has a raindrop as its logo ?
[15:16] <TwoToneSpirit> Vino doesn't listen on port 5900 for me.  Does anybody else have this problem?  I may be suffering from this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vino/+bug/196675
[15:16] <sipior> CrAzYoNi: doesn't seem likely, frankly.
[15:16] <Halitech> Kingsy101, sounds like deluge
[15:16] <Kingsy101> thats the one
[15:17] <Kingsy101> Thanks
[15:17] <dataviruset> i coded a shell script and when i try to run it it just says "unable to execute: no such file or directory", what have i done wrong? :(
[15:17] <morris1> is it currently possible to (fully) use my ati radeon HD 3870 x2 with ubuntu 9.04? the last time i tried to install the proprietary driver, i couldnt start ubuntu and had to remove the driver in recovery mode
[15:17] <funkyHat> dataviruset: pastebin the script?
[15:17] <haskellnoob> sipior: I couldn't find anything about the machine trying to initialize networking during boot, either before or after it loads the firmware. Is there a way I can output a log message from within the /etc/network/interfaces file, so that I can figure out whether it gets executed at all?
[15:17] <jimd> dataviruset: Bad "shebang" line (#!)
[15:18] <jimd> Do you have a typo in the patch to your shell/interpreter?
[15:18] <funkyHat> Oh yeah :D
[15:18] <dataviruset> funkyHat: http://paste.ubuntu.com/235227/
[15:19] <funkyHat> dataviruset: and did you make it executable?
[15:19] <dataviruset> funkyHat: yes, i ran chmod 0777 srcds_checker
[15:19] <funkyHat> uh, 777 is not clever
[15:19] <funkyHat> Change it to 755
[15:19] <dataviruset> funkyHat: okay...
[15:19] <Sirisian|Work_> jrib, heh I copied a folder into a folder.  :P
[15:20] <jrib> Sirisian|Work_: :)
[15:20] <funkyHat> dataviruset: have you put it somewhere that is in your path? if it's in the pwd you need to run it like $ ./scriptname.sh
[15:20] <sipior> haskellnoob: sure, you can specify any command to be run after the interface is rasied via the "post-up" statement.
[15:21] <funkyHat> I put my own little shell scripts in ~/.local/bin and add that dir to my path variable, dataviruset
[15:21] <dataviruset> funkyHat: it's in /usr/local/bin, and i have tried with sudo ./srcds_checker, sudo /usr/local/bin/srcds_checker and stuff...
[15:21] <haskellnoob> sipior: let me try putting 'service networking restart' in /etc/rc.local and see if that fixes this
[15:21] <polygonWindow> has anybody experience in installing openoffice from the Shell/SSH and run and use it as service on Ubuntu Hardy v8.04.2?
[15:22] <funkyHat> dataviruset: then maybe line 14 is wrong?
[15:22] <Guest43302> hello - could anyone give me the deb-line for studio-jaunty update and the key-gen please?  tnx
[15:22] <dataviruset> funkyHat: nah, that is another shell script i'm contacting
[15:23] <Vlet> Is there a way to create a user account (via commandline) without specifying a password? (or some sort of auto-generated random password perhaps?)
[15:23] <kulight> any one managed to get the hookey's in GoldenDict working?
[15:23] <jimd> dataviruset: have you double checked to see if you have some odd line terminators? (Some ^M characters embedded in the file)?
[15:23] <funkyHat> dataviruset: put echo test or something on the line above
[15:23] <kulight> hotkeys
[15:23] <sanguisdex> so with compiz fusion is there a way to save settings profiles
[15:24] <sanguisdex> so that when I have to shut it off I can restore my settings when I turn it back on
[15:24] <funkyHat> sanguisdex: yes in compizconfig-settings-manager
[15:25] <dataviruset> jimd, funkyHat:i can not execute my file at all :/
[15:25] <mgray5159> has anyone used ubuntu studio
[15:25] <Gnea> !anyone
[15:25] <mgray5159> what is the difference between ubuntu and ubuntu studio
[15:25] <funkyHat> sanguisdex: but if you shut it of using metacity --replace, and start it again using compiz --replace, rather than changing settings in appearance prefs, you won't lose your settings to begin with
[15:25] <mgray5159> is it just packages installed?
[15:25] <pdelgallego> hello I just installed Ubuntu 9.04 in a centrino-512Mb Ram laptop, but Its slow. Do you think xubuntu its going to be significant faster than Ubuntu? Any other easy distro more lightweight?
[15:26] <Gnea> !studio | mgray5159
[15:26] <sanguisdex> funkyHat: that sounds good
[15:26] <sanguisdex> funkyHat: I have been using the screenlet and its just a mess
[15:26] <Halitech> pdelgallego, with the way xubuntu has been going, its not any lighter then ubuntu anymore, you could try a minimal install and just add what you want
[15:27] <funkyHat> sanguisdex: you could make a couple of launcher screenlets that run those commands
[15:27] <funkyHat> sanguisdex: or get clever and write a script to toggle with one launcher
[15:27] <thiebaude> pdelgallego, i use 9.04 with openbox, but there many other window managers
[15:28] <thiebaude> pdelgallego, and i ahve 512mb of ram also
[15:28] <dataviruset> funkyHat: okay, i will give you the whole script; http://paste.ubuntu.com/235232/
[15:28] <thiebaude> have
[15:28] <pdelgallego> Halitech, thank for the point.
[15:29] <sanguisdex> funkyHat: I will prob do that latter
[15:29] <pdelgallego> thiebaude, Im going to check it. Did you remove gnome completely from your machine?
[15:29] <Free-Lancer> So i have made a text script, but at the end i want it to restart itself. How may i do that?
[15:29] <jneves> how to print a letter document in a A4 page?
[15:29] <LordLandon> Free-Lancer: a loop.
[15:29] <funkyHat> Free-Lancer: use a loop
[15:29] <Halitech> pdelgallego, you can have as many DE's as you want
[15:30] <Free-Lancer> How may i use a loop
[15:30] <thiebaude> pdelgallego, no i keep gnome
[15:30] <LordLandon> Free-Lancer: a bash script?
[15:30] <funkyHat> Free-Lancer: put at the top of the script "while true" and at the bottom "done"
[15:30] <dataviruset> jimd: i did not understand what you said before - but maybe you were right, can you explain what you mean?
[15:30]  * sanguisdex always needs an excuse to practice shell scripting and lean environment vars
[15:30] <funkyHat> Free-Lancer: if you want it to repeat indefinitely
[15:31] <pdelgallego> Halitech, what is a DE?
[15:31] <Free-Lancer> Thanks ill try that now
[15:31] <lstarnes> pdelgallego: desktop environment
[15:31] <Halitech> pdelgallego, desktop environment
[15:31] <funkyHat> Free-Lancer: beware that might eat up lots of CPU time, if you're not using sleep at all
[15:31] <Free-Lancer> funkyhat i am "sleep 5"
[15:31] <funkyHat> Cool
[15:31] <edwin_ubuntu> hola?
[15:32] <thiebaude> Halitech, thats one of the reasons i love ubuntu, the number of wm's you can have
[15:32] <Halitech> pdelgallego, ie XFCE (Xubuntu) Gnome (Ubuntu) KDE (Kubuntu)  main difference is the apps each install
[15:32] <Halitech> thiebaude, I've gotten to where I stick with XFCE but I keep thinking of putting LXDE on, it looks pretty slick
[15:32] <pdelgallego> Halitech, ok.
[15:33] <thiebaude> Halitech, yea, i loved xfce
[15:33] <sanguisdex> funkyHat: I will be writing the script but as a backup do you know how I can overwrite the default compiz settings
[15:33] <atilla> hello
[15:33] <atilla> uhm
[15:33] <thiebaude> Halitech, but still my gnome idles at 100mb and openbox at 57mb
[15:33] <funkyHat> sanguisdex: in ccsm, click preferences and there are some options for backing up and restoring your configuration
[15:33] <Halitech> thiebaude, just too bad xubuntu has moved towards being another gnome version and is almost as slow as gnome on older systems
[15:34] <Halitech> thiebaude, nice
[15:34] <thiebaude> Halitech, i agree
[15:34] <sbeh> hi, is there a software available that lists files in /bin,/lib,/usr etc .... that do not belong to a package?
[15:34] <thiebaude> Halitech, its like i have 1gb instead of 512
[15:34] <Qu4R0w> janisoza1r: alop2
[15:35] <atilla> hello, im a huge newfag to this but how am i supposed to agree to this: http://i25.tinypic.com/jry1zt.png ?
[15:35] <Pici> atilla: press tab until <okay> is hilighted then press enter
[15:35] <coz_> atilla,  you are new to what and have to agree to what?
[15:35] <Halitech> atilla, press tab and hit enter
[15:35] <atilla> ok thanks alot
[15:36] <dataviruset> does anyone know why my shell script isn't working? it just says no such file or directory -.-
[15:36] <Pici> dataviruset: How are you trying to execute it?
[15:37] <OEP> dataviruset, 'which [script name]' ought to show the path to the script
[15:37] <dataviruset> OEP, Pici: /usr/local/bin/srcds_checker
[15:37] <dataviruset> i have tried with sudo aswell
[15:38] <Pici> dataviruset: And what does the first line of the script say? Is it !# something??
[15:38] <dataviruset> Pici: yes, it's #!/bin/sh
[15:38] <dataviruset> Pici: the whole script is here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/235232/
[15:38] <OEP> dataviruset, will bash handle your script correctly?
[15:39] <dataviruset> OEP: i have no idea, i'm a bit beginner :/
[15:39] <OEP> dataviruset, try bash [path-to-script]
[15:39] <OEP> or change your shebang to /bin/bash
[15:39] <rrva> cannot compile kdebase-workspace-4.2.98: kcontrol/access/kaccess.h:15:30: error: Phonon/MediaObject: No such file or directory. What to do to fix it? I have phonon include files
[15:39] <sbeh> dataviruset: set -o xtrace
[15:39] <sbeh> dataviruset: on line 2
[15:40] <pdelgallego> Another question, Is there any other browser less memory eager than firefox, cause it after a while it use a lot of memory. 127mb footprint right now with less than 5 tabs !! I heard about opera and Chrome are they better at this?
[15:40] <dataviruset> OEP: that does work, but gives errors
[15:40] <dataviruset> sbeh: what does that do?
[15:40] <sbeh> dataviruset: why not just do try it?
[15:40] <sbeh> -do
[15:41] <sigi> hi
[15:41] <jneves> pdelgallego: resident size, or shared memory?
[15:41] <dataviruset> sbeh: still "unable to execute: no such file or directory"
[15:41] <thiebaude> pdelgallego, i noticed that
[15:41] <sigi> hgi bea
[15:41] <jneves> pdelgallego: any library shared by several executable files, appears as part of that executable file, even when it's only once in memory
[15:41] <Qu4R0w> janisoza1r: u there?
[15:41] <microtech> How can I tell if my disk has died in mdadm?  Is there a command to view the disks?
[15:41] <causasui> Anyone here good with Ekiga? Whenever I try to place a call, it hangs up immediately
[15:42] <sbeh> dataviruset: then go deeper with 'strace ./myscript'
[15:42] <janisoza1r> Qu4R0w: actually, yes
[15:42] <pdelgallego> jneves, umm no idea. How do I know? I dont even know the difference.
[15:42] <sipior> microtech: "mdadm --query"
[15:42] <Qu4R0w> janisoza1r: my bt4 not working well..n have problem with grub
[15:42] <microtech> sipior: comes back with no devices given, when I specify /dev/md0 it says cannot open no such file or dir
[15:42] <Sirisian|Work_> In order to use /dev/ttyS0 between two servers I need a serial cable connected between them right?
[15:42] <jneves> pdelgallego: check top in the console - it has one column for total and resident memory
[15:42] <dataviruset> sbeh: i got a few lines, should i pastebin them?
[15:43] <microtech> sipior: I think one has failed, I just need to figure out which disk it was
[15:43] <sipior> Sirisian|Work_: a null serial cable, to be precise.
[15:43] <pdelgallego> jneves, thank for the explanation.  What command can I use?
[15:43] <dataviruset> sbeh: http://paste.ubuntu.com/235237/
[15:43] <janisoza1r> Qu4R0w: well, provide some information
[15:43] <sipior> microtech: sounds like your raid kernel module is not loaded.
[15:44] <sipior> microtech: the device, at least, should exist if you've already assembled the array.
[15:44] <Qu4R0w> janisoza1r: i not use 8.10 i think but i can see 8.10 option on boot..i choose it and it bring me to bt4..it weird
[15:44] <microtech> sipior: what if the raid failed / died?
[15:44] <polygonWindow> any ideas where to start on those packages? http://pastie.org/561730 it's for openoffice 3 its from the linux deb packages. whenever i "sudo dpkg -i" he's moaning cause of dependencies
[15:44] <sipior> microtech: the device file should still be there.
[15:44] <Kingsy101> can someone tell me the difference between wine and wineHQ ? or are they the same thing ?
[15:44] <microtech> sipior: how can I try to get it back?
[15:44] <janisoza1r> Qu4R0w: your menu.lst, please?
[15:44] <Qu4R0w> janisoza1r: ok..w8
[15:44] <microtech> sipior: all I did was reboot and it was gone
[15:44] <ubuStartz> Does anyone firefox's kinda lags when watching youtube on fullscreen
[15:44] <janisoza1r> Qu4R0w: also, what system are you running now?
[15:45] <lstarnes> Kingsy101: wine is the actual software. wineHQ is a website and community dedicated to wine
[15:45] <Qu4R0w> janisoza1r: http://paste.ubuntu.com/235231/
[15:45] <Kingsy101> oh ok I see.. nice one thanks
[15:45] <Kingsy101> :)
[15:45] <Sirisian|Work_> sipior, I have one in both of the servers, but it isn't connected
[15:46] <sipior> Sirisian|Work_: one what in both servers? null modem cable?
[15:46]  * Dekko wonders how I can fix this problem... I can only edit my Applications menu as root (Sudo)... if I try it with my ordinary account it will not write changes... permission denied
[15:46] <Qu4R0w> janisoza1r: i had make some change..sorry but i only try to learn
[15:47] <janisoza1r> Qu4R0w: you say, that with your current grub configuration you can see "ubuntu 8.10" option, even if it's nonexistent in menu.lst? perhaps there is another partition with boot files?
[15:47] <jneves> pdelgallego: top
[15:47] <janisoza1r> Qu4R0w: "lsb_release -a" ?
[15:47] <sipior> microtech: did you set the machine up to run /etc/init.d/mdadm at boot?
[15:47] <polygonWindow> sorry guys, it works with 'sudo dpkg -i *.deb'
[15:47] <niadh> I am having issues with the onboard audio of an asus M3N78-VM board the audio makes strange noises on boot and shutdown but audio wont play during normal system operation, however for a while it did
[15:47] <Qu4R0w> janisoza1r: ubuntu 9.04
[15:48] <microtech> sipior: pretty sure, checking
[15:48] <janisoza1r> Qu4R0w: "sudo fdisk -l"
[15:48] <microtech> sipior:  yes it's in there
[15:48] <sipior> microtech: if you run the script with the "start" option, does your raid device reappear?
[15:49] <Qu4R0w> janisoza1r: http://paste.ubuntu.com/235242/
[15:49] <microtech> sipior: I had to do a restart, it said it was already running
[15:49] <Qu4R0w> janisoza1r: /dev/sda8=is my bt4 with root "/" mount point i had set
[15:49] <microtech> sipior: still no md0
[15:50] <Sirisian|Work_> sipior, Yeah from what I can tell. It's a cable with 3 ends. I connected the 2 ends and 1 of the ends has 2 cables in it and it's just hanging there :\
[15:50] <OEP> dataviruset, did you make any progress with that script?
[15:50] <ubuStartz> Does anyone firefox's kinda lags when watching youtube on fullscreen ... Its not only on Firefox , but also on Seamonkey.. Btw, I tried Opera (but this stupid browser doesnt even show up shit)..
[15:50] <microtech> sipior: whats the --assemble --autoscan command again
[15:50] <sipior> microtech: are you sure you specified md0 during array creation?
[15:50] <dataviruset> OEP: i'm trying to debug... it's something in the script breaking it
[15:50] <Qu4R0w> ubuStartz:u can try with install latest flash
[15:50] <microtech> sipior: yes, it's been working for a few months
[15:51] <microtech> sipior: I'm going to pull up gparted and see if I can even see the disks
[15:51] <OEP> dataviruset, that strace dump looked like it couldn't find the file srcds_checker..
[15:51] <janisoza1r> Qu4R0w: sudo blkid `mount | head -n 1 | cut -f1 -d\ `
[15:51] <Halitech> ubuStartz, what video card? how much ram? have you installed the best drivers for your card?
[15:51] <Qu4R0w> janisoza1r: sudo blkid `mount | head -n 1 | cut -f1 -d\
[15:51] <Qu4R0w> janisoza1r: is it?
[15:51] <dataviruset> OEP: it is there, i can run it with sh ./srcds_checker ... but i get errors
[15:52] <Fish-Face> Hi guys, I'm having trouble with the fan on my Vostro 1510. I've tried to use i8k to control it,  but it just causes Oopses and Panics. Now somehow the fan is stuck at 100% and I can't change it (since that will cause a hardlock)
[15:52] <sipior> microtech: what does /proc/mdstat say?
[15:52] <janisoza1r> Qu4R0w: there's space and ` at the end, it's important
[15:52] <CrAzYoNi> sipior, I think there is something wrong with my hardware..
[15:52] <OEP> dataviruset, what errors do you mean?
[15:52] <sipior> CrAzYoNi: i'm sorry to hear that.
[15:52] <CrAzYoNi> I've read in some page under Ubuntu forums that the command: dmesg | grep tty should give you some output...
[15:52] <CrAzYoNi> though the only output I'm getting refer to my /dev/tty0
[15:52] <Qu4R0w> j/dev/sda6: UUID="e0bcd678-2a36-4363-bac5-6a52dbb846da" TYPE="ext3"
[15:53] <microtech> sipior: http://pastebin.com/m126b216
[15:53] <Qu4R0w> janisoza1r: /dev/sda6: UUID="e0bcd678-2a36-4363-bac5-6a52dbb846da" TYPE="ext3"
[15:53] <CrAzYoNi> WHICH of course it is not related to any COM port.. :\
[15:53] <dataviruset> OEP: here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/235244/
[15:53] <sipior> microtech: the device name looks to be md_d0, not md0.
[15:53] <atilla> Hello i just installed ubuntu next to my windows and there is 0MB available at ¨/¨
[15:54] <janisoza1r> Qu4R0w: and what exaclty is the problem?
[15:54] <dataviruset> OEP: and the script is here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/235245/
[15:54] <microtech> sipior: weird, I know it was md0
[15:54] <Qu4R0w> janisoza1r: y my grub show me 8.10?
[15:54] <ubuStartz> Halitech: Ok, I just installed the driver.. gg to restart my PC.. will be back soon...
[15:54] <microtech> sipior: so should I do mdadm --query /dev/md_d0
[15:54] <sipior> microtech: maybe that's just an indicator that the array is offline.
[15:54] <janisoza1r> Qu4R0w: mount the other disk (sda8)
[15:55] <Qu4R0w> janisoza1r: sudo mount?
[15:55] <microtech> sipior: isn't there an mdadm command to bring it back online automatically, is that the assemble?
[15:55] <janisoza1r> Qu4R0w: or using nautilus
[15:55] <Qu4R0w> janisoza1r: cant open
[15:55] <janisoza1r> Qu4R0w: then mount manually
[15:55] <sipior> microtech: yes, but assemble requires a device name
[15:55] <OEP> dataviruset, I think if [ -n "$pid" ] would probably be more efficient than what you are using
[15:55] <microtech> sipior: will try it
[15:56] <thiebaude> atilla, did you partition your drive using the live cd to allow ubuntu to be installed side by side
[15:56] <janisoza1r> Qu4R0w: and look if there's a file /your/mount/point/boot/grub/menu.lst if it exists, post it
[15:56] <atilla> Hello I just installed ubuntu next to my windows (let ubuntu installer make the partitions) and there is 0MB available at ¨/¨, anyone know what´s wrong?
[15:56] <thiebaude> ok
[15:56] <OEP> dataviruset, it will save you some else/elseif/fi headaches
[15:56] <Qu4R0w> janisoza1r: can't find /dev/sda8 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[15:56] <janisoza1r> Qu4R0w: then read "man mount"
[15:56] <OEP> uh oh
[15:56] <atilla> thiebaude, yes i did
[15:56] <microtech> sipior: I get mdadm: failed to create /dev/md0
[15:57] <dataviruset> OEP: i will test it, wait :P
[15:57] <Qu4R0w> janisoza1r: there is no file in dev/sda8 i think..or some like that
[15:57] <sipior> microtech: and what happens if you try md_d0?
[15:57] <OEP> dataviruset, hehe did you receive my last messages?
[15:57] <thiebaude> atilla, and ubuntu won't load
[15:57] <janisoza1r> Qu4R0w: yes there is
[15:57] <microtech> sipior: mdadm: /dev/md_d0 not identified in config file.
[15:57] <Mark21> how can I check if I am running debian or ubuntu?
[15:57] <janisoza1r> Qu4R0w: you can verify that: "ls -l /dev/sda8"
[15:57] <Mike_lifeguard> How can I have Evolution consolidate all emails from my accounts into the "on this computer" inbox + folders? I've tried setting up filters, but that is strangely slow to move emails, and I'm also getting duplicates.
[15:58] <thiebaude> atilla, when you used the live cd did you select the first option?
[15:58] <Qu4R0w> janisoza1r: brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8, 8 2009-07-29 05:22 /dev/sda8
[15:58] <lstarnes> Mike_lifeguard: try lsb_release -a
[15:58] <atilla> thiebaude, im on ubuntu right now i just cant install anything, i can however save things to my desktop for some reason, yes i used the first option
[15:58] <dataviruset> OEP: irc crashed, i got "it will save you headaches", and after that "did you receive"
[15:58] <Mike_lifeguard> lstarnes: you must be talking to someone else?
[15:58] <lstarnes> Mike_lifeguard: oops
[15:59] <OEP> dataviruset, you missed nothing then
[15:59] <lstarnes> Mark21: try lsb_release -a
[15:59] <Sirisian|Work_> oh wow the null modem cable was was loose. cat </dev/ttyS0 and when I do echo hello >/dev/ttyS0 it just says "ello" on the other side.
[15:59] <Sirisian|Work_> why?
[15:59] <Mark21> lstarnes: thank you, it worked
[15:59] <thiebaude> atilla, any error messages when you cant install anything?
[15:59] <dataviruset> OEP: okay, good. the script gives a syntax error, but i can not see any -.-
[15:59] <Mark21> now I need a way to install mysqli on ubuntu 8.04 (upgrading isn't an option at this moment :()
[15:59] <SamWatkins> hey I'm writing a program that converts files from one type to another using other tools (like mencoder, netpbm, lynx -dump, etc), can anyone suggest some other conversion programs that they use so I can improve my program?
[16:00] <Pici> dataviruset: The folks in #bash will probably be able to point out any script error faster than we can.
[16:00] <SamWatkins> my program is called a2b, and it's here http://sam.nipl.net/a2b/
[16:00] <OEP> dataviruset, try changing those -z's to -n's first
[16:00] <atilla> thiebaude, when for example i try to install firefox extentions it tells me i have not enough free space
[16:00] <mneptok> SamWatkins: OGG convert
[16:00] <Mike_lifeguard> Is there a way to run current filters against emails you've already received?
[16:00] <Qu4R0w> janisoza1r: i want del 8.10 option in my boot menu and want to bt4 detect my hardware..mouse and my touchpad not work on bt4.only keyboard working
[16:00] <Mike_lifeguard> (In Evolution)
[16:00] <SamWatkins> mneptok, thanks I've got that.
[16:00] <niadh> I am having real issues with my on board audio an M3N78-VM board, I'm reading all sorts of things but it's not yet working
[16:00] <pdelgallego> jneves, this are the top numbers. I read that firefox 3.5 has better performance.  http://pastie.org/561759
[16:00] <mneptok> SamWatkins: ffmpeg
[16:01] <SamWatkins> got that too :)
[16:01] <SamWatkins> so far it supports: a2ps asciitopgm bmptoppm catdoc cjpeg convert djpeg dvips espeak faac faad festival ffmpeg flite flac gif2png giftopnm gocr lame latex2html madplay mencoder mencoder_h264 mpg123 mplayer oggdec oggenc pbmtoascii pdf2ps pdftoppm pdftotext pgmtopbm pngtopnm pnmtopng ppmquant ppmtobmp ppmtopgm ppmtowinicon ppmtoxpm ps2ascii ps2pdf pstoimg pstopnm rtf2latex soundstretch text2html text2wave tesseract wget winicontoppm 
[16:01] <sipior> microtech: can you verify that the md_mod module is loaded?
[16:01] <microtech> sipior: sorry, how can I do that =(
[16:02] <sipior> microtech: lsmod | grep md_mod
[16:02] <ubuntu-user> hi
[16:02] <microtech> sipior: negative, nothing came back
[16:02] <sipior> microtech: there's your problem.
[16:02] <microtech> sipior: you think that's probably the issue
[16:02] <microtech> sipior: hehe, ok how the heck can I load it
[16:02] <ubuntu-user> i try to run java class.. i got error
[16:02] <ubuntu-user> java.net.BindException: Permission denied
[16:02] <sipior> microtech: try "sudo modprobe md_mod"
[16:02] <thiebaude> atilla, how much space did you give for ubuntu?
[16:03] <janisoza1r> Qu4R0w: i guess that when you installed bt4 it replaced grub with it's own copy and now it uses different copy of menu.lst
[16:03] <microtech> sipior: it says its not even finding the module
[16:03] <ubuntu-user> 	at java.net.PlainDatagramSocketImpl.bind0(Native Method)
[16:03] <ubuntu-user> 	at java.net.AbstractPlainDatagramSocketImpl.bind(AbstractPlainDatagramSocketImpl.java:77)
[16:03] <ubuntu-user> how i can resolv this problem ?
[16:03] <microtech> sipior: FATAL: Module md_mod not found.
[16:03] <sipior> microtech: have you changed kernels since the last reboot?
[16:03] <Qu4R0w> janisoza1r: it meant i have another menu1st?
[16:03] <janisoza1r> Qu4R0w: hmmm... but if it says ubuntu, and boots you to ubuntu, does it also have some "backtrack" option?
[16:03] <microtech> sipior: definitely not
[16:03] <qiyong> does ubuntu support selinux now?
[16:03] <microtech> sipior: I actually rebooted because I thought the array may have locked up or something, rebooted and it was gone
[16:03] <Qu4R0w> janisoza1r: no..
[16:04] <microtech> sipior: by the way I really appreciate your help
[16:04] <JohnTeddy> If I have some ubuntu machine I need to connect to, but I can't because of NAT, and it is insanity to get a port forwarded, if I have a local person LAN in, how can I have them give me access to the kiosk to a terminal?
[16:04] <janisoza1r> Qu4R0w: you still have the menu.lst i sent you yesterday?
[16:04] <sipior> microtech: no trouble
[16:04] <Qu4R0w> janisoza1r:how to check my grub??i not bring my note
[16:04] <atilla> thiebaude, it didnt ask how much space i wanted for ubuntu, i can save things to my desktop wich according to ubuntu also has 0 bytes available
[16:04] <microtech> sipior: do I need to reinstall it somehow
[16:04] <Qu4R0w> janisoza1r: owh...
[16:04] <Qu4R0w> janisoza1r: i think i dun have
[16:05] <thiebaude> atilla, the reason i ask is that ubuntu needs at least 4gb
[16:05] <janisoza1r> Qu4R0w: mount sda8 and look if there's a file /your/mount/point/boot/grub/menu.lst if it exists, post it
[16:05] <sipior> microtech: just a moment, having a look at something
[16:05] <microtech> sipior: take your time =)
[16:05] <atilla> thiebaude, ill take a picture for you ok?
[16:05] <thiebaude> atilla, ok thnaks
[16:05] <Qu4R0w> janisoza1r: i try sudo mount /dev/sda8 but it not work
[16:05]  * ubuntu-user waitin some one help me.. !:| i have problem in java..
[16:06] <stercor> How do I restart apache?  I changed apache2.conf and want the changes to take effect.
[16:06] <janisoza1r> Qu4R0w: consult manual pages
[16:06] <thiebaude> ubuntu-user, whats the problem?
[16:06] <Pici> stercor: sudo invoke-rc.d apache2 restart
[16:06] <ubuntu-user> wait for request on 53/UDP port...
[16:06] <ubuntu-user> java.net.BindException: Permission denied
[16:06] <Qu4R0w> janisoza1r: ouchh..i try
[16:06] <Halitech> stercor, sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[16:06] <janisoza1r> ubuntu-user: you're trying to run some server?
[16:06] <thiebaude> ubuntu-user, im not familiar with that
[16:06] <ubuntu-user> i try to run java class. but i got this eror :\
[16:07] <ubuntu-user> i try to run fakeDNS
[16:07] <pepperjack> ubuntu-user: already running maybe?
[16:07] <janisoza1r> ubuntu-user: you need to sudo to bind any port <1024
[16:07] <brutus_> My network connection icon on the gnome panel has gone missing...how do I add it back?
[16:07] <ubuntu-user> how i can do this.. ?
[16:07] <janisoza1r> ubuntu-user: how do you run fakedns now?
[16:07] <ubuntu-user> no
[16:07] <Qu4R0w> janisoza1r: i cant read..my english bad :( sorry
[16:07] <ubuntu-user> i got error
[16:08] <janisoza1r> ubuntu-user: what do you do to get the error?
[16:08] <sipior> microtech: try "sudo modprobe md-mod"
[16:08] <ptn107> brutus: right-click your panel, add 'notification area'
[16:08] <ubuntu-user> janisoza1r
[16:08] <ubuntu-user> java ServerKernelMain 127.0.0.1 10.0.0.1
[16:08] <janisoza1r> Qu4R0w: you need to provide mountpoint
[16:09] <janisoza1r> ubuntu-user: then "sudo java ServerKernelMain 127.0.0.1 10.0.0.1"
[16:09] <microtech> sipior: strange, it comes back with the EXACT same error, underscore and everything: FATAL: Module md_mod not found.
[16:09] <ubuntu-user> thats what i do it., thats what typed in readme file
[16:09] <Qu4R0w> janisoza1r: i am new with linux..i try googling
[16:09] <ubuntu-user> ok
[16:09] <ubuntu-user> wait
[16:09] <janisoza1r> ubuntu-user: or if it uses gui, use gksudo instead of sudo
[16:09] <mofo> hi . anyone knows how to change login window (gdm) in ubuntu 9.10 ?
[16:09] <sipior> microtech: does "locate md-mod" return anything on your system?
[16:09] <thiebaude> !9.10
[16:09] <mastrajanis> PLEASE NEED HELP WITH INSTALLING Sound Blaster X-FI Platinium into UBUNTU 9.04
[16:09] <microtech> sipior:
[16:09] <microtech> /lib/modules/2.6.27-14-generic/kernel/drivers/md/md-mod.ko
[16:09] <microtech> oops
[16:10] <ubuntu-user> janisoza1r
[16:10] <ubuntu-user> wait for request on 53/UDP port...
[16:10] <ubuntu-user> then no thing appers
[16:10] <janisoza1r> mastrajanis: iirc x-fi isn't supported, or at least it wasn't not so long ago
[16:10] <sipior> microtech: try loading it manually with insmod: "sudo insmod <path-to-module>"
[16:11] <janisoza1r> ubuntu-user: what other output do you expect? i'd say it works. also, please try to keep your messages in one line
[16:11] <brutus_> How do I add the network manager applet to the gnome-panel
[16:11] <microtech> sipior: insmod: error inserting '/lib/modules/2.6.27-14-generic/kernel/drivers/md/md-mod.ko': -1 Invalid module format
[16:11] <microtech> weird eh?  invalid module format
[16:11] <atilla> thiebaude, i dont think i can even save screenshots anymore
[16:11] <sipior> microtech: you're sure there have been no changes to the kernel since the raid array was created?
[16:12] <juanbond> Hey guys, just wondering if anyone running 9.04 has this camera/mic working with Skype: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826104021
[16:12] <microtech> since the raid was created... hrm... man I really don't think so.  If so it was months ago and it has rebooted quite a few times since
[16:12] <microtech> sipior: forgot your name in front
[16:12] <ubuntu-user> janisoza1r the class stopped in request udp port :S
[16:13] <[1]pete> I would like to get involved in testing new ubuntu releases. does anyone have any advice regarding how I begin?
[16:13] <atilla> thiebaude, Ill just reinstall ubuntu and select my own partitions
[16:13] <sipior> microtech: does the output of "uname -a" jive with the 2.6.27-14-generic module path you gave above?
[16:13] <janisoza1r> ubuntu-user: then it's not part of ubuntu and you should seek help in fakeDNS official support channels
[16:13] <ptn107> brutus: 'network-manager' is part of the 'notification-area' applet; right-click your panel, select 'add', and pick 'notification-area'
[16:13] <niadh> [1]: Run karmic on a day to day basis and discover any major bugs in 'real world' use
[16:13] <thiebaude> atilla, that's prob the best way
[16:14] <microtech> sipior: negative, so you may be right, maybe a new kernel got installed somehow with other updates and I didnt notice
[16:14] <ubuntu-user> janisoza1r type to me a channel. supported fake dns plz :)
[16:14] <microtech> sipior: the one it brings back is 2.6.28.... and I have 2.6.27 in the lib
[16:14] <janisoza1r> ubuntu-user: i have no idea, try looking at their site where to get help
[16:14] <sipior> microtech: that'd be my guess. you need the modules from the kernel you're running. get that package added, load md_mod, and i think you'll be set.
[16:14] <ubuntu-user> no channels no thing just damn link :SSSSSSSSSSSSssssss
[16:15] <ubuntu-user> its ok i will try ask a java programer
[16:15] <janisoza1r> ubuntu-user: what does this program do?
[16:15] <microtech> sipior: so I should be able to search for the updated module?  is there any user friendly way to do it like an apt-get upgrade?
[16:16] <Joe1> hey does anyone know how i can get my webcam to work on ubuntu 9.04 its a vimicro VC0303 webcam
[16:16] <Mike_lifeguard> [1]pete: /join #ubuntu+1
[16:16] <Qu4R0w> janisoza1r: i can mount now
[16:16] <Halitech> Joe1, does lsusb show it?
[16:16] <janisoza1r> Qu4R0w: good, post menu.lst
[16:16] <Qu4R0w> janisoza1r: in sda8?
[16:17] <Joe1> halitech; no
[16:17] <sipior> microtech: figure out which kernel packages you currently have installed, and make sure you have the matching module package for each. as a quick test, you can boot into the older kernel to verify that the array still comes up.
[16:17] <janisoza1r> Qu4R0w: yes, the one from sda8
[16:17] <Halitech> Joe1, then chances are its not going to work ... is it a laptop webcam?
[16:17] <microtech> sipior: ok great, can I just choose the old kernel from the grub boot menu or you think I will have to go in and manually add it to the boot config
[16:17] <Zobin> Hey people
[16:17] <sipior> microtech: it should still be in the menu list.
[16:18] <microtech> sipior: ok great, thank you so much
[16:18] <Zobin> I have a problem. When I download the ATI Catalyst control center my graphic driver doesn work
[16:18] <sipior> microtech: yep, good luck getting it sorted out.
[16:18] <Joe1> halitech; no its a usb webcam, i plugged it in and nothing was recognised i then went to the ad/remove and downloaded camera monitor but still nothin
[16:18] <Qu4R0w> janisoza1r: http://paste.ubuntu.com/235258/
[16:18] <Halitech> Zobin, what card?
[16:18] <Zobin> ATI Radeon X850 XT
[16:18] <microtech> sipior: looks like I will need it, one last question, is it possible that a module that matches the newer kernel doesnt exist for mdadm
[16:18] <janisoza1r> Zobin: did you  use aticonfig (or atitool, dont remember exactly) --initial?
[16:18] <Halitech> Joe1, probably out of luck then
[16:18] <Zobin> I just want to extend my desktop to my TV through S-video
[16:18] <Qu4R0w> janisoza1r: u right i think..i can see ugly 8.10
[16:19] <Halitech> Zobin, 8.10 or 9.04?
[16:19] <Zobin> janisoza1r:  What is the aticonfig?
[16:19] <sipior> microtech: no, it'll be there.
[16:19] <Zobin> 9.04
[16:19] <Joe1> halitech; bummer! okay cheers for you hep, do you know what camera's are compatible with ubuntu ?
[16:19] <Halitech> Zobin, most of the X series have been dropped from the latest ati drivers
[16:20] <janisoza1r> Zobin: the tool to set up xorg.conf and others properly for use with ati driver
[16:20] <janisoza1r> Qu4R0w: there is an option for backtrack
[16:20] <Halitech> Joe1, not off hand, I have a Creative Live! that works
[16:20] <Qu4R0w> janisoza1r: yes..i can choose backtrac 4
[16:20] <Zobin> Ok, so I should try the aticonfig?
[16:20] <microtech> sipior: I assume it's something I need to download?  I am googling for it so far with little luck
[16:20] <janisoza1r> Qu4R0w: though... it points to different place than it should
[16:20] <Joe1> halitech; okay, cheers for them help. Cya
[16:21] <Qu4R0w> janisoza1r: i have 2 menu1st..i nid del one?
[16:21] <janisoza1r> Qu4R0w: what happens when you choose backtrack?
[16:21] <Qu4R0w> janisoza1r: it bring me to bt
[16:22] <microtech> sipior: or I need to recompile the kernel with it?
[16:22] <Qu4R0w> janisoza1r: 8.10 also bring me to bt
[16:22] <ScottG> Is there a way to make video in VLC play inside the player and not in a separate window?
[16:22] <sipior> microtech: no. try "dpkg -l | grep modules" and see what versions of "linux-ubuntu-modules" are installed.
[16:23] <janisoza1r> Qu4R0w: there's also option "Ubuntu 9.04, kernel 2.6.28-13-generic (on /dev/sda6)
[16:23] <jackd> hi everyone. i am going to reinstall my system. my problem is that i have encrypted my home with ecryptfs. how can i read my crypted files after i have reinstalled? my home is on its own parition so it will not be formatted.
[16:23] <janisoza1r> Qu4R0w: what happens when you select that?
[16:23] <brutus> what's normal GPU temperature?
[16:23] <Qu4R0w> janisoza1r: it bring me to 9.04(ubuntu)..it work fine
[16:23] <janisoza1r> Qu4R0w: i fail to see your problem than
[16:23] <janisoza1r> *then
[16:24] <microtech> sipior: I did that and there are about 7 things that talk about ubuntu, not sure what I should be looking for at this point =(  Sorry to keep bugging ya
[16:24] <Qu4R0w> janisoza1r: can i del one menu1st??coz i think i have 2
[16:24] <otacon122> I got a question
[16:24] <Halitech> !ask | otacon122
[16:24] <janisoza1r> Qu4R0w: leave them
[16:24] <sipior> microtech: match the versions of the module packages to the version of the kernel you are currently running...
[16:24] <microtech> sipior: libsas, libpam..  that kind of thing
[16:24] <Qu4R0w> janisoza1r: can i del 8.10?
[16:24] <sipior> microtech: just grep for "linux-ubuntu-modules"
[16:25] <otacon122> Is the current release of Samba able to function as a Primary Domain Controller for large networks and Wide-Area Networks?
[16:25] <janisoza1r> Qu4R0w: you decide. anyway, make a backup just in case
[16:25] <sipior> brutus: what does the card's manual say about the normal temperature range?
[16:25] <Qu4R0w> ok2..
[16:25] <microtech> sipior: so this for example? dpkg -l | grep linux-ubuntu      if so it brings back nothing
[16:25] <Qu4R0w> janisoza1r: ok
[16:25] <Zobin> Does anyone have a quick fix to connect the TV to the video card so I can extend the desktop? Ubuntu 9.04
[16:25] <Themi> I have just done an Ubuntu 9.0 64 bit install. everything thus far sems to be working fine. Now I want to set up Compiz, who  can be of help?
[16:26] <LordLandon> Themi: compiz is installed by default.
[16:27] <Themi> o.k. so how DO I make it work. I have Nvidia 8500 + video card 512
[16:27] <brutus> sipior, hmm...i don't have a manual...it's a 8600GT, 512mb though
[16:27] <Themi> 9500
[16:27] <Themi> +
[16:27] <LordLandon> Themi: go to system->preferences->appearance->effects
[16:27] <Themi> sorry made a mistake
[16:27] <Otacon22> http://packages.ubuntu.com/ <---- is it not working?!
[16:27] <Halitech> Themi, did you install the drivers to get 3d?
[16:27] <Pici> Otacon22: Correct.
[16:27] <ububegin_> Halitech: Hi, i installed the new hardware driver for Nvidia..from the Admin->Hardware drivers... But I still get the lag.. its quite subtle but still obvious
[16:27] <genii> Otacon22: Currently not
[16:27] <sipior> brutus: you can grab one from the nvidia website, iirc
[16:28] <ububegin_> Do you guys get a lag when u run youtube videos on firefox on fullscreen.. is it got something do with flash...
[16:28] <GammaX> Would a basic bash script written for slax have problems running in kubuntu?
[16:28] <janisoza1r> brutus: if you can fry eggs on your gpu, you can assume it's too hot
[16:28] <Themi> not sure
[16:29] <Themi> IT will not allow me to make 3d affects
[16:29] <Themi> I have installed the Nvidia drivers
[16:29] <Themi> that Ubunutu told me to
[16:29] <Themi> but that is about it?
[16:29] <otacon122> Hmm...ok...Let me ask again...Is the current stable release of Samba capable of functioning as a Primary Domain Controller and allow Macintosh and Linux workstations to communicate with each other?
[16:29] <xangua> ububegin_: flash sucks in linux
[16:30] <mike_s> hi...i am using Ubuntu 9.04 on my Acer Aspire 1694wlmi - with an ATI Mobility X700 installed and "radeon" driver! now i want to connect my laptop via S-Video to my TV...but i have huge problems with that! :-( if i enter "xrandr -q"...there is no s-video connection detectet??
[16:30] <Themi> nvidia accelerated drivers 180 series I believe it is
[16:30] <sipior> microtech: actually, belay that. i noticed that my md-mod.ko is installed with the linux-image-2.6.24-23-server package. try dpkg -l | grep linux-image.
[16:30] <ububegin_> xangua: so how do you watch youtube..
[16:30] <janisoza1r> ububegin_: you can use mplayer
[16:30] <xangua> ububegin_: i don't use fullscreen mode
[16:31] <Themi> can any one help me figure this bad boy out and I have one more question. I have an i7 extreme 3.33 ghz, with 12 gig's ddr3 ram, but on my system monitor it is only showing that I am using 8 gigs?
[16:31] <brutus> janisoza1r, its 65C, to be precise...don't think any eggs would fry on it :P
[16:31] <microtech> sipior: this looks more meanigful, it has  ii  linux-image-generic                        2.6.28.13.1
[16:31] <Themi> Compiz to calrify what I want to make work
[16:31] <otacon122> brutus, eggs can be fried on a mere 150F
[16:31] <ububegin_> janisoza1r: you mean download and later play them with mplayer
[16:32] <jackd> Themi: Maybe your bios dont like more then 8 gig?
[16:32] <janisoza1r> ububegin_: you can also stream
[16:32] <Themi> "the borad is built dfor up to 24 gig's
[16:32] <otacon122> Themi, not all motherboards support more than 8GB of RAM
[16:32] <jackd> Themi: oh. ok :)
[16:32] <mehrsteckdose> Anyone have experience with the Sticky/Repeating Keys bug? It
[16:32] <judithtgilde> I'm trying to add the medibuntu repo to install googleearth, but although the repo seems to be recognized by synaptic the googleearth package does not seem to appear
[16:32] <ububegin_> janisoza1r: No, I mean is there a fix available for the browsers
[16:32] <otacon122> I have yet to see a motherboard that can support more than 16GB of RAM, but those are few and far between
[16:32] <Themi> It is The Asus p6t7 ws supercomp board
[16:32] <janisoza1r> ububegin_: it's not a fix for the browsers
[16:32] <Halitech> Themi, what version did you install?
[16:32] <Themi> this thing is built to run nasty, loool
[16:32] <janisoza1r> ububegin_: it's flash that sucks
[16:32] <Themi> 64 bit
[16:33] <sipior> microtech: is that the only image line? try dpkg -L <packagename> | grep md-mod to see if the file is included.
[16:33] <Themi> This board is built to support up to 24
[16:33] <ububegin_> janisoza1r: so its not possible to view the youtube videos on firefox or any other browser... whats the pple at Canonical doing anythig to solve this
[16:33] <otacon122> Hmm...Why isn't anyone answering my question?  I've asked twice now
[16:33] <jackd> Themi: can you pastebin the output of the command "free" ?
[16:33] <Themi> other than that, can some one help me first figure out why compiz is not working?!?!
[16:33] <Halitech> Themi, have you tried running memtest86+ from the live cd to test the ram?
[16:34] <Themi> no
[16:34] <stercor> I'm trying to set up user directories in /home/username/public_html
[16:34] <stercor> Here's my apache2.conf snippet:
[16:34] <stercor>  59  <Directory /home/*/public_html>
[16:34] <stercor>  60    #UserDir public_html
[16:34] <stercor>  61    Options Indexes FollowSymLinks
[16:34] <FloodBot3> stercor: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:34] <stercor>  62  </Directory>
[16:34] <brutus> otacon122, oh, so you've tried?
[16:34] <janisoza1r> ububegin_: canonical are not developers of flash
[16:34] <chansen> otacon122, well :) people dont get paid to help you :) ask nice and wait
[16:34] <otacon122> brutus, I've asked twice now
[16:34] <Themi> halitech, can we start by fixing compiz and then work on the ram issue?
[16:34] <microtech> sipior: http://pastebin.com/m30e46de1
[16:34] <Halitech> Themi, I don't use compiz and don't like it so not sure on how to fix that issue
[16:34] <brutus> otacon122, interesting.
[16:34] <genii> stercor: Perhaps ask in #ubuntu-server or #apache
[16:35] <Themi> I want to see this thing once and for all.... I have been trying to make compiz work forever, now I built a BOX that Should not only make it work, but also fly to the moon while I am @ it, loool
[16:35] <Zobin> Does anyone have a quick fix to connect the TV to the video card so I can extend the desktop? Ubuntu 9.04
[16:35] <stercor> genii: Thanks.
[16:35] <edbian> otacon122: People enter and leave the channel constantly.  If someone doesn't respond now there is a good chance that if you wait 20 or 30 minutes someone will join that does have a suggestion.
[16:35] <Themi> who runs compiz?
[16:35] <sipior> otacon122: you could just amble over to the samba web page and have a look.
[16:35] <edbian> Themi: I do!  Are you having troubles with it?
[16:35] <Themi> It is not allowing me to run my 3d affects in appearance
[16:35] <Themi> ?
[16:35] <Themi> yup
[16:35] <jackd> Zobin: ati? nvidia? or what?
[16:35] <Themi> I go to turn on 3 d affects and it says "NO!"
[16:35] <Themi> lol
[16:36] <Zobin> Ati Radeon X850 XT. Sorry.
[16:36] <erki> does anybody know if its possible to run some kind derivate of ubuntu on HTC Sable (hw6915)
[16:36] <edbian> Themi: Check out the compiz check script.  http://forlong.blogage.de/entries/pages/Compiz-Check  Do you know how to run a script?
[16:36] <moustafaza> Can a damaged battery cause the laptop to keep on restarting while it attached, and work well while it's not?
[16:36] <Themi> no
[16:36] <jackd> Zobin: i don't have ati. sry no idea :(
[16:36] <Themi> I am not an entirely new newbie lol, though
[16:36] <Zobin> Ok, thanks
[16:36] <edbian> Themi: Go to the site I linked and download the script.
[16:36] <Vlet> moustafaza: plausible I suppose
[16:36] <microtech> moustafaza: say again, it works fine when there is no battery attached, but restarts when the battery is attached?  Regardless of being plugged in?
[16:37] <edbian> Themi: Also to determine what driver you're currently using run this command: "lspci -k" Look for your video card and tell me what "modules" are loaded (modules are drivers in linux)
[16:37] <judithtgilde> I'm trying to add the medibuntu repo to install googleearth, but although the repo seems to be recognized by synaptic the googleearth package does not seem to appear
[16:37] <janisoza1r> Zobin: afair x850 is in the legacy driver, that might have trouble compiling modules against newer kernels
[16:37] <edbian> judithtgilde: Are you sure that package is in that repo?
[16:37] <janisoza1r> Zobin: so i think you should use ubuntu official packages
[16:38] <Halitech> Zobin, ati dropped support for the x850 and only the 9.3 version works but only in 8.10 or lower
[16:38] <moustafaza> microtech, I mean when the the battery of my laptop is attached, which is probably damaged, the laptop keeps on shuttingdown without any notifications (as if power is un-plugged)
[16:38] <asdfroot> hi
[16:38] <ububegin_> So Can i confirm this problem is universal..  *You cant watch youtube videos in ubuntu*
[16:38] <judithtgilde> edbian: http://packages.medibuntu.org/jaunty/index.html suggest it is
[16:38] <janisoza1r> ububegin_: you can
[16:38] <microtech> moustafaza: does it do that when only running on battery, if you have the battery in and plugged into the wall at the same time is it fine?
[16:39] <ububegin_> So Can i confirm this problem is universal.. *You cant watch youtube videos in ubuntu IN A BROWSER* ... how bout this
[16:39] <Zobin> janisoza1r: Which package should I download? I downloaded the Catalyst before, and it made my computer crash.
[16:39] <edbian> judithtgilde: It does appear to be that way.  Are those other packages showing up?
[16:39] <asdfroot> is there a way to make a read-only-filesystem (hfs+) writeable?
[16:39] <moustafaza> microtech, if the battery is unplugged it works fine. but if the battery is attached the laptop gets truned off by itself
[16:39] <janisoza1r> Zobin: no idea, i have newer gpu
[16:39] <Zobin> Ok
[16:39] <janisoza1r> !ati | zobin
[16:39] <jackd> ububegin_: i can watch youtube in a browser w\o problems.
[16:39] <microtech> moustafaza: I think you're missing my main question, when the battery is plugged in, AND you have it plugged into the wall is it fine?
[16:39] <asdfroot> i need to edit a file from the live-disc
[16:40] <edbian> ububegin: I CAN watch youtube videos in ubuntu in a browser.
[16:40] <moustafaza> microtech, No it keeps on shutting down.
[16:40] <janisoza1r> ububegin_: so can i
[16:40] <outy> how can i remove the network icon from my notifications area ?
[16:40] <microtech> moustafaza: even when its plugged into the wall?  If so then definitely your battery is bad
[16:40] <Halitech> Ububegin, works for me (not that I have any desire to)
[16:40] <edbian> outy: Just remove the notification area
[16:40] <ububegin_> jackd, edbian : do you guys feel as though there is a lag.. Try fullscreening it
[16:40] <outy> not worth having one on ubuntu ?
[16:40] <judithtgilde> edbian: no, none of them show up
[16:40] <moustafaza> microtech, OK thanks!
[16:41] <jackd> ububegin_: yes. it IS laggy in fullscreen. but i dont watch in fullscreen even if its not laggy :)
[16:41] <microtech> moustafaza: sure thing =)
[16:41] <edbian> judithtgilde: Did you reload synaptic?  Does it show up in the origins section?
[16:41] <asdfroot_> hi
[16:41] <microtech> sipior: did you by chance look at the pastebin, it looks like md-mod didn't come up at all
[16:41] <Free-Lancer> My text file has multiple lines, How can i add a word to the end of each line via terminal?
[16:42] <sipior> microtech: yes. which raid level are you running?
[16:42] <microtech> sipior: whichever the equiv. of JBOD was
[16:42] <edbian> ububegin:  I think that is a cross platform problem with flash.  I've seen it before.  The words don't match up with the mouths of the peoplei n the video correct?  Like it's just a second late.
[16:42] <asdfroot_> can i make a hfs+ filesystem writeable? it says read-only
[16:42] <judithtgilde> edbian: yes, medibuntu is in the list
[16:42] <sipior> microtech: can you tell me what "lsmod | grep raid" returns?
[16:42] <edbian> judithtgilde: Did you "reload" ??
[16:43] <Free-Lancer> My text file has multiple lines, How can i add a word to the end of each line via terminal?
[16:43] <judithtgilde> edbian: yes, a dozen times
[16:43] <rah> I have a bit of a problem playing a DVD with mplayer
[16:43] <ububegin_> jackd: Hmm, think the folks at Ubuntu shld fix this .. This is prolly the number one usuage of the Internet in today's world... Dont you agree.. How many home users give a damn about cloud computing or those shit
[16:43] <rah> I've installed libdvdcss2, however get a corrupted stream
[16:43] <sipior> microtech: i noticed that whilst the server packages seem to all include md-mod.ko, the generic kernel packages seem to have stopped including it after around 2.6.27-14.
[16:43] <Guest54877> no dvd on ubuntu
[16:43] <edbian> Themi:  How's it going?
[16:43] <rah> (or what appears to be corrupted)
[16:43] <rah> here is a screenshot:
[16:43] <Guest54877> nota guest sorry pallt boy
[16:43] <rah> http://myrtle.6gnip.net/~rah/bad-dvd.png
[16:43] <janisoza1r> ububegin_: actually i disagree with you
[16:43] <rah> any ideas?
[16:43] <microtech> sipior: I think you are right there, any idea on how that could happen?  I have always just done the standard ubuntu update to install anything new... nothing fancy
[16:44] <judithtgilde> edbian: pretty weird huh?
[16:44] <microtech> sipior: http://pastebin.com/m38d3823
[16:44] <Guest54877> theres no default dvd playe rin ubuntu
[16:44] <jackd> ububegin_: would be nice if its fixed. but i think its more a adobe failure than a ubuntu failure i think. but i am not sure. haven't traced the reason of it :)
[16:44] <sipior> microtech: i'm wondering if md-mod has been subsumed by raid456.ko and the like.
[16:44] <Halitech> Ububegin, I can tell you one home user that doesn't care about youtube
[16:44] <janisoza1r> ububegin_: and yet again it is *not* ubuntu fault, it's adobe
[16:44] <microtech> sipior: I see
[16:44] <rah> anyone?
[16:44] <Pici> !attitude | ububegin_
[16:44] <Cyber_Akuma> .... The Linux Foundation just launched their own credit card?
[16:44] <edbian> judithtgilde: Yes it is very odd.  Does your synaptic reload with no problems?  How did you add the repo?
[16:45] <Jordanmota> where is the correct channel to get help getting my Mic to work in windows in virtualbox on my Ubuntu?
[16:45] <Guest54877> no dvd palyer love
[16:45] <ububegin_> janisoza1r: Is it only in Ubuntu or across other Linux distributions as well
[16:45] <Halitech> !multimedia | Guest54877
[16:45] <ububegin_> Pici: Huh, what was wrong with my attitude...
[16:45] <rah> Guest28565, are you responding to my question?
[16:45] <janisoza1r> ububegin_: no idea, i use only ubuntu for gui, others are headless
[16:45] <Guest54877> wish they had that dvd love but sadly no
[16:46] <edbian> ububegin:  Adobe are the people that provided the code that goes into the flash player 10 plugin.  The code is the same in all linux distrobutions.
[16:46] <rah> Guest28565: hello?
[16:46] <Pici> ububegin_: The second half of your comment above.
[16:46] <Guest54877> unles sya gota diffrent package system
[16:46] <rah> Guest54877, are you responding to my question?
[16:46] <Guest54877> then it is diffrent
[16:46] <Guest54877> there .rpm and .deb
[16:46] <judithtgilde> edbian: yes, it reloads fine. I followed the instructions at "https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu#Adding the Repositories" to add the key and list the repo in sources.list.d
[16:47] <JenniferB> iam running ubuntu throuhg putty and my friend started an application and somehow switched to continue using the consoel.. how can I switch back to the running application console? (he has left the building)
[16:47] <edbian> judithtgilde: Go into System -> Admin -> Software sources.  What checkboxes do you have enabled?
[16:47] <Guest54877> lol
[16:47] <ububegin_> edbian: so seems like all pple across the linux sphere are screwed... For my personnally, its is big deal.. I watch comedy shows and most other videos via youtube or other sites... and I am damn pissed now.. Hope those folks at Adobe get their act together
[16:48] <Guest54877> ok
[16:48] <Guest54877> wtach them gezz
[16:48] <jackd> JenniferB: Maybe CTRL+A and then press D
[16:48] <Guest54877> we don't really wanna watch what u watch
[16:48] <mehrsteckdose> Does anyone have info on the Key Stticking bug? It pretty         much makes Ubuntu unusuable and then you       tyeeeeeeee like this every so often with keyrepeat stttttttttill on.
[16:48] <janisoza1r> ububegin_: go and nag them, you have my support.
[16:48] <Halitech> Ububegin, so complain to abode
[16:48] <jackd> JenniferB: if he is using screen :)
[16:48] <Guest54877> what key sticking bug?
[16:48] <edbian> Guest54877: If you start with someones name when you're talking to them I think everyone will understand what you're talking about more :)
[16:49] <judithtgilde> edbian: Medibuntu (non-source variant) is enabled under third-party
[16:49] <Jordanmota> where can I get help configuring XP to run in VirtualBox? My mic won't work...
[16:49] <Guest54877> yes great u wtach crap on youtube awesome i gusse
[16:49] <ububegin_> janisoza1r, edbian : how bout using the older versions of Flash.. Shldnt that solve the issue... I am on Jaunty
[16:49] <edbian> ububegin:  It is annoying but that's the way of linux.  Not many people use it so 3rd party vendors (like adobe) really don't care if it works well for linux or not.
[16:49] <judithtgilde> edbian: enabling their source variant did not help
[16:49] <edbian> ububegin:  I don't know.  Never tried it.
[16:49] <janisoza1r> ububegin_: well, that'd be crazy IMO. i could only make things worse i think
[16:49] <mehrsteckdose> Guest28565, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/124406
[16:50] <rah> http://myrtle.6gnip.net/~rah/bad-dvd.png
[16:50] <JenniferB> jackd: I think so.. yes.. screen
[16:50] <rah> anyone?
[16:50] <janisoza1r> ububegin_: since the reason to release new version is to _fix_ bugs, to introduce new ones
[16:50] <edbian> ububegin:  You'
[16:50] <jackd> JenniferB: yeah. so you can leave the screen (but let it running in background) with ctrl+a then d
[16:50] <edbian> ububegin: You'll probably find that less and less videos work if you use the older flash player.
[16:50] <mehrsteckdose> I've tried everything IIIIIIIIII can think of. I swapped distros, kernels, I've unplugged the mouse        and read        everything IIIIIIIII can.
[16:50] <ububegin_> janisoza1r: i never encountered the problem in my Ubuntu fiesty... I just upgraded to jaunty and all this happened
[16:50] <Guest54877> lol
[16:51] <mehrsteckdose> I've turned on key repeat toooooooo demonstrate how annoying this .
[16:51] <Guest54877> why use an older bit of softwrae?
[16:51] <edbian> Guest54877: Do you have an ubuntu related question?
[16:51] <Guest54877> no probs with jaunty doing that
[16:51] <ububegin_> !attitude | mehrsteckdose
[16:51] <janisoza1r> ububegin_: if you want solutions, then post your problem and someone might try to help you, if you keep whining, then go to #foobar&grill
[16:51] <Guest54877> sound smade up
[16:52] <mehrsteckdose> Oh,        no biggie. I understand. I just have left off thee repeat. Didn't mean to come off that way.
[16:52] <JenniferB> jackd: i accidantly closed the putty session, and restarted it.. the application is still running in the background.. and the ctrl + a  then  d doesn't seem to be working
[16:52] <janisoza1r> ububegin_: or whatever other offtopic channel
[16:52] <ububegin_> janisoza1r: didnt i already post my problem...
[16:52] <sipior> microtech: what version of mdadm are you running, by the way?
[16:53] <jackd> JenniferB: what do you exactly want to do? i dont get it 100% :)
[16:53] <ububegin_> and since there's no solution as of now, I think i am gg to retire for the nite...
[16:53] <Guest54877> its made up
[16:53] <ububegin_> Cheerios, dudes
[16:53] <microtech> sipior: I have no idea lol, how can I verify?  I just did apt-get install mdadm I believe  (and the other mdadm compoenents..)
[16:53] <edbian> !ot | Guest54877
[16:53] <Guest54877> and yo dawg it light out side go look
[16:53] <Guest54877> lol
[16:53] <Keiffer> Hi. I want to auto-mount a NTFS partition at startup. I used ntfs-3g. Mounted. But I cant Write it. PERMISSION DENIED
[16:53] <JenniferB> I am not sure.. I am trying to learn :) .. i think i want to kill the application but first I would like to see that "console" that started it
[16:53] <sipior> microtech: mdadm --version
[16:53] <edbian> Keiffer: Do you have the partitions mounted already?
[16:53] <judithtgilde> edbian: hmm, it seems the quick search does not really search all repos when all is selected...
[16:53] <Guest54877> xchat myself
[16:54] <henux> i'm trying to run an executable which is linked against libIL.so located in /usr/local/lib, but i get this when trying to run it ./imgtest: error while loading shared libraries: libIL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[16:54] <edbian> judithtgilde: quick search searches what is listed in the window at that time
[16:54] <rah> http://myrtle.6gnip.net/~rah/bad-dvd.png
[16:54] <Keiffer> edbian Yes. Mounted. I can see the files but I can't write it
[16:54] <jackd> JenniferB: so type "screen -ls" to see all active screen sessions. then you can "join" or "attach" to one of them with "screen -r PID_GOES_HERE"
[16:54] <edbian> judithtgilde: I hate qucik search ;)  It's counter-intuitive
[16:54] <rah> beuler?  beuler?  beuler?
[16:54] <microtech> sipior:  mdadm - v2.6.7.1 - 15th October 2008
[16:55] <Halitech> rah, compiz enabled? other videos work okay? have you tried vlc?
[16:55] <Keiffer> Error while copying "thinkpython.pdf". There was an error copying the file into /media/ntfs/[Download].
[16:55] <mehrsteckdose> Outside of a patch: If you had a bug that no one had a fixxxxxxxxxx for, is there anything   else you would thhhhhhhhink to swap out? (I'veeeeeeeee swapped hardware, kernel, distro, x.org and desktop environment.)
[16:55] <jackd> JenniferB: if you want to kill one of those sessions simply attach to them -> then kill them with ctrl+c -> then exit the screen with "exit"
[16:55] <edbian> Keiffer: What folder is it mounted in??
[16:55] <Guest54877> trie dthat doens't work on my machine what do u need for taht too  work?
[16:55] <JenniferB> thanks :9
[16:55] <JenniferB> :)
[16:55] <Guest54877> ntfs on linux are you snae?
[16:55] <Keiffer> edbian  /media/ntfs
[16:55] <judithtgilde> edbian: when I cleared the search box I saw googleearth in the list, but when quicksearching for it only the main googleearthpackage thingy...
[16:55] <edbian> Keiffer: What are the permissions on that folder?
[16:55] <jackd> JenniferB: welcome
[16:55] <Guest54877> just copy it to ubuntu
[16:56] <JenniferB> btw, how do I start my own screen ? :)
[16:56] <Guest54877> why copy it to windoze?
[16:56] <Dulak> JenniferB: type "screen"
[16:56] <edbian> Guest54877: I'm going to call the operators in if you don't start either helping others or getting help yourself.
[16:56] <jackd> JenniferB: Dulak said it :)
[16:56] <Keiffer> If I right click - porperties under Permissions tab it sais "permissions could not be determined
[16:56] <Guest54877> why are you copying to windows
[16:56] <rah> Halitech, no, yes, yes
[16:56] <judithtgilde> edbian: thanks a lot of helping me :)
[16:56] <edbian> Keiffer: Go there in a terminal and type ls -l
[16:56] <Halitech> Guest54877, maybe the OP has an external drive that is formatted NTFS that is shared with windows computers
[16:57] <edbian> judithtgilde: NP!
[16:57] <sipior> microtech: ah, this might help: http://blog.creonfx.com/linux/mdadm-raid-failed-after-upgrade-from-ubuntu-810-to-904
[16:57] <Guest54877> seems rather odd
[16:57] <Keiffer> edbian, pastebin?
[16:57] <microtech> sipior:  lol ya
[16:57] <Halitech> rah, bad video then? commercial dvd or burned copy?
[16:57] <sipior> microtech: this also explains the md_d0 device naming.
[16:57] <edbian> Keiffer: Or just tell me the permissions for /media/ntfs
[16:57] <Halitech> Guest54877, I do it all the time
[16:57] <microtech> sipior: how can I remind myself what two disks I used again lol
[16:57] <microtech> sipior: is it in the conf file?
[16:58] <rah> Halitech, it's a manufactured DVD, not a burned one
[16:58] <Guest54877> if u like and run linux then drop windows crap all together
[16:58] <sipior> microtech: should be
[16:58] <janisoza1r> Keiffer: it might not be exactly what you want, but there's a project ext2ifs, that enables you to read ext2 (and ext3, since it's backward compatible) in windows
[16:58] <Keiffer> edbian /media/ntfs is not there
[16:58] <janisoza1r> Keiffer: there are some limitations though
[16:58] <rah> Halitech, it plays fine in separate dvd player
[16:58] <Halitech> rah, strange encryption?
[16:58] <edbian> Keiffer: You have to cd to /media first :)  Do you know what I'm talking about?
[16:58] <Guest54877> window si worthless for me needs
[16:58] <Keiffer> janisozalr, I don't have windows. Only ubuntu. and I want to make transmission startup, mount that partition and then to download
[16:58] <rah> Halitech, "strange"?
[16:59] <microtech> sipior: hrm, its not in the mdadm.conf =(  shoot, what disks were they
[16:59] <janisoza1r> !tab | Keiffer
[16:59] <Guest54877> why?
[16:59] <edbian> Kieffer:  That is very doable :)
[16:59] <Guest54877> well just boot ubuntu a nd run that app
[16:59] <janisoza1r> Keiffer: if you don't have windows, why use ntfs?
[16:59] <Guest54877> very simple easie rthen what u wnat
[16:59] <Guest54877> yeah really man
[16:59] <edbian> Keiffer: That's a good point.  ext3 is a much more effecient file-system
[16:59] <om26er> edbian: can you please tell me how to set lan dhcp from terminal
[16:59] <Keiffer> edbian, I'm kinda new.. so i don't know mych
[16:59] <Guest54877> ntfs is windows only
[16:59] <SirTopHat_> I'm trying to install openssh-server, and I get openssh-server: Depends: openssh-client (= 1:4.2p1-7ubuntu3.5) but 1:5.1p1-5ubuntu1 is to be installed. I already have openssh-client installed though so I don't see what's wrong here
[17:00] <Keiffer> So, reformat the partiotion to ext3?
[17:00] <edbian> Keiffer: Let's start with the terminal
[17:00] <Dulak> Keiffer: if you don't have windows, if the ntfs partition takes a dump you can't boot windows to chdsk it
[17:00] <Guest54877> i like what they say about ext4
[17:00] <Guest54877> big dela
[17:00] <Halitech> rah, what movie is it?
[17:00] <edbian> Keiffer: Is that ok?
[17:00] <Keiffer> edbian, ok
[17:00] <rah> Halitech, Transformers
[17:00] <Dulak> Keiffer: you should convert ntfs to ext3 if you are moving to only using linux
[17:00] <edbian> Keiffer: PM me?
[17:00] <JenniferB> jackd: when I type screen -ls , the message says : there is a screen on : ... but I can't really get what the PID is
[17:01] <edbian> om26er: I think all you need to do is install the package is that correcT?
[17:01] <Guest54877> is it possible to use ext4?
[17:01] <Dulak> Jennifer: it's not a pid, it's a screen id
[17:01] <Guest54877> looking into ext4
[17:01] <Halitech> Guest54877, windows might be useless for you but for some it is a necessary evil that they keep windows and have to have inter-operability
[17:01] <JenniferB> and I believe there is more screeens running ( i have like typed screen hundred times now )
[17:01] <Guest54877> lol windows sucks taht all i gotta say to that on
[17:01] <om26er> edbian: yes but its not being done
[17:01] <jackd> JenniferB: Look here: 5797.pts-1.Develb0x  5797 is the PID :)
[17:01] <Guest54877> inter crapbilty maybe lol
[17:02] <alfaromeo> hi guys
[17:02] <Halitech> rah, and vlc and other players do the same?
[17:02] <rprague> morning everyone.  I've got a weird issue with a 9.04 server build that's been running fine.  I haven't installed anything recently other than updates, after a reboot this morning (server room power shutoff) the system hangs indefinately at 'starting crond' in normal mode.  I can boot recovery and start/stop crond without a problem, and I've got nothing in messages or dmesg.  Any ideas?
[17:02] <om26er> edbian: it says failed to download. as I am not online but my internet is fine
[17:02] <Dulak> Guest5477: ext4 needs some time to mature I think, I won't be running it anytime soon in production that's for sure
[17:02] <Themi> hey guys, how do I register my name for ubuntu irc... I got the 3d to work as well for my compiz....
[17:02] <rprague> sheesh, that was longer than I wanted
[17:02] <danlii> My computer running Ubuntu 9.04 sets the system time back two hours every time i put it in Suspend mode and then wakes it. What seems to be the problem there?
[17:02] <Guest54877> vlc is awesome highly reccomened
[17:02] <om26er> edbian: and I am not using gui
[17:02] <edbian> om26er: What?  Are you online or not?
[17:02] <Guest54877> 9.10 will have ext4 in it
[17:02] <rah> Halitech, no, they don't even play corrupted video; they do nothing
[17:02] <edbian> om26er: That's fine.  You can do this without a GUI :)
[17:02] <mehrsteckdose> Anyone have experience with the "Stuck Key/Repeating Letter" bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/124406  -- Launchpad says pretty much that iiiiiiiiiit's terrrrrrrrrrminal. (Not in the application sense.)
[17:02] <outy> hey i can see the other sides of my compiz desktop cubey thingy through my desktop background
[17:02] <Guest54877> don't use sleep mode
[17:02] <alfaromeo> i want to add some text on video, i already have sub so i want to add text upper video.. can u help? mencoder...
[17:02] <outy> how do i make it stop ?
[17:02] <microtech> sipior: woohoo, I think we're getting somewhere here, now I have: ARRAY /dev/md/d0 level=linear num-devices=2 metadata=00.90 UUID=2367b3f6:6d55123b:2d9dcf67:3a9fa2e8
[17:03] <Kingsy101> does anyone know of a remote desktop control system that is free that can be used across different OS's ? for example I can install it on ubuntu and vista, use my vista pc to control my ubuntu PC etc etc ?
[17:03] <Kingsy101> possible ?
[17:03] <Guest54877> why are u rrunning sleep mode?
[17:03] <Halitech> rah, no idea, sorry
[17:03] <Dulak> Guest54877: yes but that doesn't mean you have to use it, it's not been used enough to prove itself yet for production imo
[17:03] <outy> synergy
[17:03] <outy> kingsy
[17:03] <microtech> sipior: so I should be able to mount /dev/md/d0 to my old mount point?
[17:03] <a_clever_name> KDE vs GNOME
[17:03] <rprague> Kingsy101, you can use VNC
[17:03] <Kingsy101> I tried TeamViewer but it doesnt work well with WINE
[17:03] <edbian> om26er: PM me
[17:03] <outy> gnomes can fight man
[17:03] <jemark> Kingsy101, yes, I do
[17:03] <Guest54877> ubuntu is prefect for podiuction
[17:03] <sipior> microtech: should do, yes
[17:03] <outy> i once seen a gnome stab a hobo
[17:03] <Guest54877> if hate linux go on windoze
[17:03] <jemark> Kingsy101, it is installed in Ubuntu by default
[17:03] <Guest54877> i perfer gnome
[17:03] <tomrian> hi! how can i set up a 152-bit wep key in ubuntu ?
[17:03] <Kingsy101> oh cool, how does it work ?
[17:04] <microtech> sipior:  this is weird, when I try: sudo mdadm --detail -scan >> /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf
[17:04] <microtech> -bash: /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf: Permission denied
[17:04] <Guest54877> wep?
[17:04] <Dulak> Guest54877: go elsewhere to troll you are just using up screen space
[17:04] <a_clever_name> no wich is more main stream
[17:04] <grawity> tomrian: 152-bit? WEP?
[17:04] <Guest54877> wep is what?
[17:04] <lstarnes> microtech: try sudo mdadm --detail -scan | sudo tee -a /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf
[17:04] <grawity> a_clever_name: Both.
[17:04] <Guest54877> windows waht?
[17:04] <laclasse> Kingsy101, look at NX: http://www.nomachine.com/
[17:04] <grawity> Guest54877: Go away.
[17:05] <Guest54877> takes voice
[17:05] <Halitech> irc needs a killfile
[17:05] <tomrian> yep, i want to connect to a wireless net
[17:05] <grawity> ... Someone has said, "KDE 4 gives you free eye diabetes."
[17:05] <jemark> Kingsy101, you would need to install VNC install vista...
[17:05] <Dulak> !ot | Guest54877
[17:05] <laclasse> Kingsy101, GPL version too: http://freenx.berlios.de/
[17:05] <tomrian> but it has a 152 bit-lenght wep key
[17:05] <microtech> sipior: that seemed to work, what the heck is a "tee"
[17:05] <Guest54877> take svoice
[17:05] <grawity> Halitech: It's called /ignore ... it's slightly annoying when the person re-appears later, though.
[17:05] <sipior> microtech: "man tee" :-)
[17:05] <grawity> microtech: "man tee" :-)
[17:05] <Halitech> grawity, I know
[17:05] <blind|melon|chit> Hmm...I haven't had any keyboard repeat problem in jaunty, but on launchpad the bug is listed as "won't be fixed"
[17:05] <microtech> wt
[17:05] <lamjed> Hello
[17:06] <lamjed> i'm new
[17:06] <jemark> Kingsy101, im looking for a guide for you
[17:06] <microtech> sipior:  woooo hooo
[17:06] <Kingsy101> hold on, there are like 3 different choices there, which is best for linux and windows (cross platforms) it also has to work from linux to linux too
[17:06] <Guest54877> xchat ubuntu 9.04
[17:06] <lamjed> je suis nouveau
[17:06] <microtech> sipior: it's back
[17:06] <sipior> grawity: creepy that we even used the same smiley there...
[17:06] <rprague> anyone have an idea why my crond would hang indefinately on boot?  haven't made any changes other than running the normal updates
[17:06] <sipior> microtech: good, glad it's working
[17:06] <microtech> sipior:  lol me too
[17:07] <jemark> Kingsy101, you install install ultravnc in vista... http://www.uvnc.com/download/
[17:07] <Guest54877> running revers ext3
[17:07] <Kingsy101> ok let me have a look at that...
[17:08] <jemark> Kingsy101, then from the ubuntu, you can type vncviewer "ipadressofthevistapc" in the terminal
[17:08] <grawity> lamjed: This is #ubuntu, the Ubuntu help and support channel. If you have any Ubuntu-related question, just ask. For general help about the IRC chat, type   /join #freenode   and ask there.
[17:08] <Guest54877> running sex xxx app
[17:08] <Guest54877> just kidding
[17:08] <SirTopHat_> when I do stop pure-ftpd it sais unknown job
[17:08] <microtech> is this a valid UUID?  I'm used to having hyphens in them: 2367b3f6:6d55123b:2d9dcf67:3a9fa2e8
[17:09] <sipior> microtech: it's actually four concatenated uuids
[17:09] <jemark> Kingsy101, or you can try this: http://www.windowsvistaplace.com/remote-desktop-sharing-in-ubuntu-debian-admin/linux/
[17:09] <grawity> microtech: An UUID is just a number, an 128-bit number. It doesn't matter how is it represented - hex with dashes, hex with colons, or even base64.
[17:09] <grawity> sipior: er, no.
[17:09] <SirTopHat_> blah I never get answers
[17:10] <microtech> hrm, well either way I can put that number into my fstab right
[17:10] <Guest54877> not sure if sex app boots right
[17:10] <Kingsy101> I am trying NoMachineNX
[17:10] <grawity> sipior: that is a single UUID.
[17:10] <kfan> keets
[17:10] <kfan> games
[17:10] <microtech> what is the command to check what file system is used?
[17:10] <Guest54877> its shows xchat users in the nude
[17:10] <Guest54877> so maybe its a driver isse?
[17:10] <Guest54877> dunno
[17:10] <jemark> Kingsy101, is there a linux version for that program?
[17:10] <ubuntizer> Hi guys. :-) Can i know why i cant access all google services like (gmail, orkut, google etc) on my ubuntu properly... i mean site sometimes open sometimes it just keeps on loading..no its not my network problem, it works fine on windows
[17:11] <Guest54877> maybe kingsy101 doesn't show up correctly nude
[17:11] <ubuntizer> how can i find out where the problem is ? ??
[17:11] <grawity> microtech: 'mount' might work.
[17:11] <ubuntizer> :-s
[17:11] <sipior> grawity: ah yes, i'm mistaken.
[17:11] <Kingsy101> jemark - hmm it doesnt look too good actually
[17:11] <Guest54877> his cock shows up as 9 inches when we all know its 1 inch
[17:11] <jackd> microtech: sudo fdisk -l
[17:11] <microtech> grawity:  thx
[17:11] <jemark> Kingsy101, what doesn't look too good?
[17:11] <grawity> jackd: That will only show "Linux".
[17:11] <Guest54877> and microtech show sup as she male with four cocks
[17:12] <Kingsy101> jemark - VNC doesnt look good you see because all of the different PC's I will be connecting to from the outside are on the same network
[17:12] <sipior> Guest54877: explore puberty somewhere else, please.
[17:12] <rprague> anyone have an idea why my crond would hang indefinately on boot?  haven't made any changes other than running the normal updates
[17:12] <Guest54877> don't get me wrong i like a good stiff cock
[17:12] <microtech> Guest28565: what?  lol
[17:12] <Kingsy101> so they don't all have an IP address available
[17:12] <jackd> grawity: sure? it will show all partitions
[17:12] <ubuntizer> Hi guys. :-) Can i know why i cant access all google services like (gmail, orkut, google etc) on my ubuntu properly... i mean site sometimes open sometimes it just keeps on loading..no its not my network problem, it works fine on windows
[17:12] <sipior> Guest54877: the adults would like to have a conversation.
[17:12] <ubuntizer> any help guys :(
[17:12] <microtech> ubuntizer:  what browser
[17:12] <Halitech> Guest54877, go away and come back when you grow up
[17:12] <Guest54877> sipor cock looks aweosme in the game diplays his awes cock n balls to full 3d hd glory
[17:12] <grawity> jackd: It will, yes, but all ext2/ext3/ext4 filesystems share the same 'Linux' filesystem identifier.
[17:13] <nsahoo> if firefox says for an URL "Server not found" does it mean the remote site is down or does it mean that there is some issue with the DNS lookup?
 Any browser.. i have tried on firefox, epiphnay, chromum
[17:13] <jackd> grawity: ah ok. yes thats true
[17:13] <Kingsy101> jemark - that TeamViewer program was perfect because all you did was install and type in a ID and password and bang it worked, you didnt need to specify IP address's or port numbers or anything..
[17:13] <jemark> Kingsy101, that's no problem, that
[17:13] <sipior> Guest54877: that's really the best you can manage?
[17:13] <Halitech> nsahoo, could be either
 even tried reinstalling browsers
[17:13] <Kingsy101> but it didnt work too well with WINE
[17:13] <sheep> nsahoo: it means that it could not find the server with that address
[17:13] <Kingsy101> jemark - can I pm you ?
[17:13] <grawity> nsahoo: "Not found" generally means the DNS lookup didn't return a valid address. Try the command 'host some.host.com' on terminal.
[17:13] <microtech> ubuntizer: and it doesnt give you any errors or anything, it just loads sometimes and not others?
[17:13] <grawity> jackd: Windows' NTFS is also shown as "HPFS/NTFS", by the way
[17:13] <jemark> Kingsy101, i see the problem... the other program would be better?
[17:14] <maple1> help
[17:14] <JenniferB> I am switching between the screens with ctrl+a n but I can't fetch the screen attached to the one that is runnin gthe application
[17:14] <Kingsy101> jemark - hm I don't think so, it seems like you need to install server software or something..
[17:14] <JenniferB> how can I see the task manager ?
[17:14] <jackd> grawity: yep. but it was usually enough info for me to know which fs it is :)
[17:14] <Kingsy101> I don't really know how it works
 Ya, exactly. It's moody..sometimes it open and sometimes i have to keep on trying for 5-6 times reloading.
[17:14] <sheep> JenniferB: try system > administration > system monitor
[17:14] <grawity> JenniferB: The application you want might be in a different screen session - type 'screen -ls'
[17:15] <nsahoo> grawity: Halitech: sheep: thanks, not able to access www.cs.ubc.ca today
[17:15] <nsahoo> can anyof you?
[17:15] <microtech> ubuntizer: does this machine have multiple network cards you could try?
[17:15] <jemark> Kingsy101, yes, vino is in Ubuntu
[17:15] <Kingsy101> vino ?
 No. :( and just for note, i use wvdial to connect to internet :-)
[17:15] <jemark> Kingsy101, yes, you can see it in synaptic
[17:16] <JenniferB> sheep .. i am running from console
[17:16] <grawity> nsahoo: they seem to have a problem with their DNS server.
[17:16] <grawity> JenniferB: Did you try 'screen -ls'?
[17:16] <microtech> ubuntizer: so you're on a modem?  Is ee
[17:16] <Kingsy101> jemark - what is it ?
[17:16] <grawity> JenniferB: Also, 'ps -ef' will show all running processes.
[17:16] <JenniferB> grawity: yes..
[17:16] <mister_blood> big problem...running 9.04, i was attempting to rename my wireless interface via the rules.d under udev. when i changed the name in vi and rebooted, my wireless interface is not loading at all. I have since restored the rules file to its original state and rebooted, but the interface wlan0 will still not load. can anyone help me resolve this?
[17:16] <sheep> JenniferB: top and htop are both console-based, but htop is better
[17:16] <nsahoo> grawity: thanks for verifying that for me
 yeah. i'm on a wireless modem.
[17:17] <bluequijote> I need to hide some partitions from gnome and nautilus... in my user account... where could I work with it? someone could help me?
 The modem company dont have supported drivers for linux, so i use wvdial to connect to internet
[17:17] <rprague> anyone have an idea why my crond would hang indefinately on boot?  haven't made any changes other than running the normal updates.
[17:17] <speedhunt3r> Is there anyway I can scan my windows parition for spyware? I can't browse the net in windows so the antivirus can't update...in linux i can so i know its not the cable or nothing like that
[17:17] <Kingsy101> jemark - its installed already I think, but I don't know what it is or how to use it
[17:17] <Kingsy101> well synaptic says its installed
[17:18] <jemark> Kingsy101, I have only 1 laptop with linux... so, you can't test it with me
[17:18] <microtech> ubuntizer: I wouldn't be surprised if it was something to do with the propreitary drivers / your wireless modem.  I use all google services on multiple linux boxes and they are all fine.  It definitely sounds like you are dropping packets or something along those lines.  All other sites work fine?
[17:18] <Kingsy101> ok...
[17:18] <panfist> what's the difference between ssh RSAauthentication and pubkeyauthentication
[17:18] <Kingsy101> jemark - what should I do ?
[17:19] <jemark> Kingsy101, you can go to "system" - "preference" - "remote desktop" to change the settings
 Yea, its quite weird.. I cant seem to know where the problem lies. Moreover, every other site works properly.
[17:19] <Kingsy101> yea it says
[17:19] <Kingsy101> Your desktop is only reachable over the local network. Others can access your computer using the address 192.168.0.11 , mexico.local.
[17:19] <Kingsy101> does that matter ?
[17:19] <Kingsy101> mexico is the name of my PC btw
[17:20] <Kingsy101> 192.168.0.11 is local, so thats no good really
[17:20] <microtech> ubuntizer: that is extremely strange
[17:20] <jemark> Kingsy101, do you see the option "configure network automatically to accept connections" ?
[17:20] <Kingsy101> yep
[17:20] <grawity> panfist: RSAAuthentication (in SSH 1) and HostbasedAuthentication (in SSH 2) also use public keys, but they are based on client trust. That is, if you set up hostbased auth to a server from a computer, any user on that computer can use his own account on the server, without password.
[17:20] <n8tuser> mister_blood-> look around you /etc/udev/rules.d/75-persistent-net*
[17:20] <jemark> Kingsy101, when you select that, then you can also access the pc from outside...
[17:21] <Kingsy101> ah right I see
[17:21] <Kingsy101> ok 1 sec
 yea. i even tried cleaning up cookies, if it had anything to do..but nothing happens...Weird :P
[17:21] <jemark> Kingsy101, ok
[17:21] <SirTopHat_> http://pastebin.com/d34d27578 look at this, I'm trying to install openssh-server, it tells me it needs openssh-client installed first because it's a "dependency", and yet when I go to install openssh-client it's already there
[17:21] <bluequijote> nobody help me?
[17:21] <microtech> ubuntizer: the fact that its on multiple browsers definitely would indicate its a connectivity issue.  I dont know much about weave dialing / wireless modems
[17:21] <Kingsy101> jemark - ok I have set it up now, how would you connect to it ?
[17:21] <rprague> anyone have an idea why my crond would hang indefinately on boot?  haven't made any changes other than running the normal updates.
[17:21] <mister_blood> n8tuser: that's the file that i edited
[17:21] <jemark> Kingsy101, my "internet" ip address is shown there when I select it.
[17:22] <panfist> i'm trying to puse pubkey authentication from an ubuntu client to an ubuntu openssh server. i have the sshd_config set to pubkeyauthentication yes. i generated a key, copied it to my client, tried to connect and it says no supported authentication methods available
[17:22] <jemark> Kingsy101, sure, what's your ip?
[17:22] <n8tuser> mister_blood-> look around you /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.*
[17:22] <jemark> Kingsy101, u can PM it.
I think you are correct. do you know any other way to connect to internet without using wvdial ?
[17:22] <microtech> well if you had a standard ethernet / wireless connection you'd be fie
[17:22] <microtech> fine
[17:23] <Kingsy101> jemark - you see this is the thing, if I give you my IP address then yea you might be able to connect, but what would happen if I was using another computer on the same network to connect to it, that would mean I would be connecting to myself wouldnt it ?
[17:23] <edbian> How can you delete a file that NOBODY (not even root) has write permissions on?
[17:23] <worm> Hello, I've downloaded the new firefox 3.5.1 from the mozilla website and decompressed it to my home directory. Why do I loose the flash plugin ?
[17:23] <SirTopHat_> this is madness, I haven't gotten a single answer for anything in here
[17:23] <n8tuser> edbian-> man lsattr
[17:23] <Kingsy101> or for example if I had vnc running on my vista PC and ubuntu when i go to connect using my IP address how would it know which vnc to connect to ?
[17:23] <grawity> edbian: root always has write permissions. The file might have 'immutable' or 'append-only' flag though; check lsattr output
 maybe, you can give write permission to that file using root and then delete it ? *newbie here*
[17:24] <rprague> SirTopHat_, I'm with you there.  Not sure how to phrase a question so people can answer it
[17:24] <jemark> Kingsy101, i see. let's look into it... it think vncviewer ipadres:localname ?
[17:24] <sheep> SirTopHat_: it looks like you have a newer version of openssh-client than what that openssh-server package supports
[17:24] <Kingsy101> jemark - sorry I don't follow
[17:24] <tdoris> c
[17:24] <edbian> ubuntizer: I can't because root doesn't have write permissions :P
[17:25] <jemark> Kingsy101, i will try with myself :)
[17:25] <edbian> n8tuser: Thank you!
[17:25] <Kingsy101> cool :)
 ah :P
[17:25] <SirTopHat_> why in the world would they have it like that that's completely asinine
[17:25] <sheep> SirTopHat_: where are you installing the packages from?
[17:26] <danl> what would cause killall to give me command not found, and how do I install it?
[17:26] <SirTopHat_> nevermind I got it working
[17:26] <jemark> Kingsy101, i have no idea if this is possible... ;(
[17:26] <rprague> anyone have an idea why my crond would hang indefinately on boot?  haven't made any changes other than running the normal updates.
[17:26] <ubuntizer> Anybody know a alternative for wvdial ? :-)
[17:26] <Kingsy101> jemark - thats what I mean, i need a nice application that does it for you by assigning ID's and using a net connection
[17:27] <sheep> danl: it might be in the psmisc package
[17:27] <ubuntunewbie> hi I need help , I am not able to view a my hard disk drive.Even when I click umount , I am getting error
[17:27] <JenniferB> thanks guys .. i feel much better now :)
[17:27] <ubuntunewbie> System policy prevents unmounting media mounted by other users
[17:27] <Kingsy101> TeamViewer was PERFECT but it doesnt working correctly in WINE
[17:27] <grawity> danl: Using 'pkill' is preferred (as on some distros, killall kills _every_ process). If you still want 'killall', it is in the 'psmisc' paskage.
[17:27] <pepperjack>  danl also maybe something messed up in your path?
[17:27] <grawity> package*
[17:27] <ubuntizer> Anybody know a alternative for wvdial ? :-)
[17:27] <grawity> danl: And it's in /usr/bin/killall by default.
[17:27] <fabio_> #bitefight.br
[17:27] <ubuntunewbie> any help on "System policy prevents unmounting media mounted by other users"?
[17:27] <mac9416> Hello, where can a find a howto for submitting a papercut?
[17:27] <fabio_> join #bitefight.br
[17:27] <grawity> fabio_: /join #bitefight.br
[17:28] <jemark> Kingsy101, maybe this? http://martybugs.net/smoothwall/puttyvnc.cgi
[17:28] <ctmjr> danl: did you use sudo killall?
[17:28] <JenniferB> the purpose of this is to run an website.. and I am so unfamiliar with the console .. so I was thinking about installing gnome.. but was wondering if this could have great performance cuts.. or it's perhaps not that important ?
[17:28] <sonism> ubuntunewbie: try to umount it using sudo
[17:28] <ubuntizer> Anybody knows a alternative for wvdial ? :-)
[17:28] <fabio_> join
[17:28] <danl> and ctmjr, i am logged in as root, no need too :-)
[17:28] <ubuntunewbie> sonism: yep maybe possible ,but I can't access the drive at all
[17:28] <n8tuser> ubuntizer-> you have google for alternatives yet?
[17:29] <fabio_> join #ikariam.pt
[17:29] <mneptok> JenniferB: a desktop environment is not desirable on a server, as it introduces more software, and thus more potential security holes.
[17:29] <pepperjack> JenniferB: there is no reason you would need to keep gnome up once you have your server setup.  if its your first real linux setup id recommend gui
[17:29] <grawity> fabio_: You need the / sign before it.
[17:29] <ubuntunewbie> The folder contents could not be displayed.You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "LOCAL DISK".
[17:29] <sonism> ubuntunewbie: what do you mean?
[17:29] <ubuntunewbie> sonism: I am the only user
[17:29] <ubuntunewbie> sonism: I am the only user , but once I click the drive it said permission or something
[17:29] <Kingsy101> jemark - perhaps. it looks pretty complex tho
[17:30] <ubuntunewbie> sonism: I never do anything
 Actually no google services are working perfectly on my connection... dunno why :(
[17:30] <JenniferB> mneptok: yes.. that is true.. pepperjack : gui ? is that something i can search on using aptitude?
[17:30] <jemark> Kingsy101, yes... maybe you can do it with portforwarding?
[17:30] <rprague> anyone have an idea why my crond would hang indefinately on boot all of the sudden?  haven't made any changes other than running the normal updates, the system has been running fine for weeks.
[17:30] <bluequijote> I need to hide some partitions from gnome and nautilus... in my user account... where could I work with it? someone could help me?
[17:30] <Kingsy101> jemark - hmm I dunno my router isnt a good one you see (sky standard router)
[17:30] <wildc4rd> evening all
[17:31] <edbian> bluequijote: I can help! :)
[17:31] <sonism> ubuntunewbie: check your fstab, may be the mount option prevent you to do so. try to umount it from terminal using sudo, and mount it back
[17:31] <Kingsy101> + I don't really have a clue how to set that up
[17:31] <n8tuser> ubuntizer-> look into kppp or pppconfig perhaps
[17:31] <edbian> bluequijote: First pastebin "fdisk -l" for me so I know what we're working with.  Then explain what which one's you're trying to "hide"  ?
[17:31] <edbian> :)
[17:32] <Sj4lut_> If I install one program under one account. Will this program be present in another account? If not how can I do it?
 Thanks :-)
[17:32] <ubuntunewbie> sonism: what is fstab ?
[17:32] <jemark> Kingsy101, yep... well did you try vnc with the one pc you have?
[17:32] <grawity> Sj4lut_: Usually, programs are installed system-wide.
[17:32] <Sj4lut_> grawity: ok cool
[17:32] <Kingsy101> jemark - nope.. I don't really see the point
[17:32] <grawity> Sj4lut_: Are you using Synaptic, or Add/Remove Programs, or compiling the program yourself?
[17:32] <bluequijote> ok edbian
[17:32] <remi> is it possible to define the default permissions for the newly created files in a directory?
[17:32] <edbian> ubuntunewbie: Go to /media and find out which folder in there holds the partition in question :)
[17:32] <Kingsy101> jemark - I don't know how to set any of the other stuff up so there isnt point
[17:33] <Sj4lut_> grawity: but than again. If I don't wannt some user to have in his Programs menu certain program... How can I do this?
[17:33] <tzolkin> last time, I delete a folder from /opt, and the size of the files in this folder is about 8G, but when delete it, the space which take does not back, someone can help me?
[17:33] <Sj4lut_> grawity: apt-get all the way
[17:33] <sonism> ubuntunewbie: hmmm... just skip it if you don't know what to do with it for now. try umount, and then re-mount it back from terminal
[17:33] <jemark> Kingsy101, so you like to connect to more PC's in your network from outside with a Vista pc, right?
[17:33] <edbian> sonism: He doesn't have write permissions to the folder that the partition in mounted in :)
[17:33] <steffi_ma> my cpu ist at 80-90% beacause of mount.ntfs. how can i fix that?
[17:33] <n8tuser> ubuntizer-> http://www.debianadmin.com/setting-up-dial-up-connection-in-ubuntu.html
[17:33] <ubuntunewbie> /sbin/umount.hal: Unmounting /media/LOCAL DISK failed: org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.PermissionDeniedByPolicy: org.freedesktop.hal.storage.unmount-others auth_admin_keep_always <-- (privilege, result)
[17:34] <mac9416> Hello, where can a find how to submit a papercut?
[17:34] <Kingsy101> yea the PC I will be using to connect to the PC's on my network will probably be vista, but it might be ubuntu also
[17:34] <ubuntunewbie> sonism: how to umount using sudo ?
[17:34] <grawity> Sj4lut_: apt is system-wide. (apt-get, aptitude, Synaptic and Add/Remove all use the 'apt' system.)
[17:34] <Kingsy101> my ideal would be to just have a application that you could run and connect, as easy as that
[17:34] <saml> how can I get list of installed packages?
[17:34] <edbian> ubuntunewbie: Go to /media and figure out which folder inside of there contains the partition in question :)  Do you know what I'm talking about?
[17:34] <stercor> Of the 1422 people in this channel, can someone enlighten me on Ubuntu's mechanism to get Apache2 and PostgreSQL working?
[17:34] <grawity> Sj4lut_: When you type 'sudo apt-get', you don't actually use your account, even.
[17:35] <edbian> ubuntunewbie: "sudo umount /dev/<sd-something>"
[17:35] <ubuntunewbie> edbian: sorry dont know
Thanks a lot for that one ;)
[17:35] <sonism> ubuntunewbie: sudo umount /the_mount_point_name
[17:35] <edbian> ubuntunewbie: not unmount but Umount :)  lower case of course
[17:35] <mneptok> JenniferB: may i PM you?
[17:35] <Houba1986> hey, i had a question... i installed ubuntu 9.04, and i have transmission 1.51 preloaded... how do i upgrade to 1.73?
[17:35] <ubuntunewbie> edbian: I went to media , there are all my hard disk drive local disk , all also cannot umount
[17:35] <mneptok> !ppa > Houba1986
[17:35] <genii> saml: dpkg --get-selections
[17:36] <saml> genii, thank you
[17:36] <bluequijote> http://pastebin.com/m12a2c648
[17:36] <sonism> ubuntunewbie: do you copy?
[17:36] <zaccour> how do i enable voice chat in gyachi?
[17:36] <edbian> ubuntunewbie: Can you not mount the partition at all ??
[17:36] <bluequijote> it is my pastebin edbian
[17:36] <Roland> I discovered something strange... whenever i connect a second monitor to my laptop and enable it in " nvidia X server settings ", the gnome panel will freeze( time freezes, right click doesn't work ).. anyone heard of a bug like this?
[17:36] <jet_> hmmm
[17:37] <stercor> ganii: a2enable dbd?
[17:37] <Houba1986> ubottu: i know, that's what i usually do, but the link from the transmission site for ppa isn't working... and i tried downloading it from getdeb.com, but got an error... is there another way to download and install?
[17:37] <jet_> anyone know how to get rid of pidgin spam?
[17:37] <ubuntunewbie> sonism , edbian : i can't umount all using normal right click umount on desktop.I am trying with terminal but it said can't find media
[17:37] <zaccour> how do i enable voice chat in gyachi?
[17:37] <JenniferB> mneptok: sure :) .. not sure what that means though :P
[17:37] <mneptok> !repeat > zaccour
[17:37] <bluequijote> I want hide sda1, sda2, sda7
[17:37] <edbian> bluequijote: What are you trying to hide?
[17:38] <bluequijote> sda1, sda2, sda7
[17:38] <dAnon> is there a way to mount ntfs partitions for good, so I can have shortcuts on my desktop? How can I shortcut to applications from these partitions?
[17:38] <Roland> jet_, search synaptic for pidgin plugins
[17:38] <sonism> ubuntunewbie: don't mind the desktop for now....... umount it from the gnome-terminal...... whew!
[17:38] <ubuntunewbie> sonism , edbian : can someone tell me why I dont have permission ? how do i check for permission ?
[17:38] <worm> Hello, I've downloaded the new firefox 3.5.1 from the mozilla website and decompressed it to my home directory. Why do I loose the flash plugin ?
[17:38] <bluequijote> do you know how I could do it?
[17:38] <n8tuser> dAnon-> all auto mounts can be done in  /etc/fstab   man fstab for details or look for a tutorial on this
[17:39] <ubuntunewbie> sonism : it said  sudo umount /media/LOCAL DISK umount: /media/LOCAL: not found umount: DISK: not found
[17:39] <jet_> Roland: which one to DL?
[17:39] <pepperjack> worm: just drop it in ~/firefox/plugins
[17:39] <edbian> ubuntunewbie: You have to edit your /etc/fstab file :)
[17:39] <ubuntunewbie>  edbian : ???
[17:39] <edbian> ubuntunewbie: Here is the best guide around :)  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab
[17:39] <sonism> ubuntunewbie: ﻿sudo umount /media/LOCAL\ DISK/    try that
[17:39] <jet_> synaptic is cool
[17:40] <dAnon> is there a way to mount ntfs partitions for good, so I can have shortcuts on my desktop? How can I shortcut to applications from these partitions?
[17:40] <Roland> jet_, i think it was pidgin-privacy-please...
[17:40] <disappearedng> Hey anything besides scim for chinese input?
[17:40] <tzolkin> I delete a folder from /opt, and the size of the files in this folder is about 8G, but when delete it, the space which take does not back, someone can help me?
[17:40] <ubuntunewbie> sonism : still cannot umount: /media/LOCAL: not found
[17:40] <ubuntunewbie> umount: DISK: not found
[17:40] <weather15> Hello
[17:40] <devyll> how can I see what another logged user on my machine is doing ?. from terminal I do the command "w" and there is someone else logged on from a remote ip.
[17:41] <sonism> ﻿ubuntunewbie: ﻿sudo umount /media/LOCAL\ DISK/
[17:41] <causasui> I'm getting no sound from flash video in firefox. Can anyone help?
[17:41] <lstarnes> ubuntunewbie: note the \
[17:41] <weather15> I am trying to setup up apache so it requires a client certificate on the clients computer how can I do this?
[17:42] <ohwhat> my laptop battery stays stuck on 21.5%, even when it's plugged in
[17:42] <n8tuser> weather15-> sometime we dont remember everything, you may have to google for a tutorial on this
[17:42] <weather15> I have tried buthave failed
[17:42] <zaccour> how do i enable voice chat in gyachi?
[17:43] <ubuntunewbie> sonism , edbian lstarnes : done , now what should I do next to mount back ?
[17:43] <ubuntunewbie> sonism , edbian lstarnes : I mount back already , it works now
[17:43] <sonism> ubuntunewbie: ok. good
[17:43] <ubuntunewbie> sonism , edbian lstarnes : anyone know the reason having the permission problem ?
[17:44] <ubuntunewbie> sonism , edbian lstarnes : wanted to learn more
[17:44] <edbian> ubuntunewbie: Only root has the ability to mount file-systems by default. You have to edit /etc/fstab to allow other users to
[17:44] <Guest84301> HELP, plz! How I can set max open files in bash? ulimit -n 2048: bash: ulimit: open files: не могу изменить лимит: Operation not permitted
[17:44] <Houba1986> does anyone know what the ppa to upgrade transmission 1.51 to 1.73 is for ubuntu 9.04? it doesn't seem to load when i try clicking the link for it from the transmission site...
[17:45] <disappearedng> why does scim sometimes stick to the right window but sometimes it just fails ?
[17:45] <Mike_lifeguard> I'm having some issues with mailing list MIME digests in Evolution. Normally, the attachment emails are downloaded in their entirety, but right now, Evolution is only downloading the headers for these emails. How can I force Evolution to get the entirety of the attachments to the digest email?
[17:46] <Houba1986> or can anyone actually get the site packages.ubuntu.com to load? its not loading for me :S
[17:46] <n8tuser> Guest84301->  try using sysctl  man sysctl for details as it has been a long time for me since i've used it
[17:46] <ubuntunewbie> edbian : I am the only user using it
[17:46] <Flannel> Houba1986: It's being slow, yes.  What were you looking for?
[17:46] <ubuntunewbie> edbian : no one else , previously it works well
[17:47] <ohwhat> does anyone know why my laptop battery never updates, even when the charger is plugged in
[17:47] <Houba1986> Flannel: i wanted to upgrade transmission bittorrent client from version 1.51 to version 1.73, so wanted to get the ppas
[17:47] <huey23> does anyone use mailwatch for mailscanner on a ubuntu 9.04 server gateway?
[17:47] <jet_> Roland: anyway to search just the package?
[17:47] <Flannel> Houba1986: packages.ubuntu.com shouldn't have anything to do with PPAs, as far as I'm aware.
[17:48] <Mike_lifeguard> Houba1986: http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/packages.ubuntu.com
[17:48] <Houba1986> Mike_lifeguard: thanks, its not just me
[17:48] <sonism> ubuntunewbie: type -> man mount  hope you can learn something from it
[17:49] <ohwhat> it never used to be like this. one day i was using rhythmbox while low on battery, the computer shut down, and when i started it up again, the power manager no longer updates.
[17:49] <ohwhat> it could be a hardware fault, but i think it's software
[17:49] <Kingsy101> can someone help me, I am having some weird ubuntu problems, it just keeps randomly crashing
[17:50] <Kingsy101> i.e the mouse stops moving and I need to press the re-set button
[17:50] <Kingsy101> it seems to happen randomly .. can someone help ?
[17:50] <fotis> ohwhat maybe tour battery need restart
[17:50] <Mike_lifeguard> Kingsy101: Do you have intel graphics?
[17:50] <ohwhat> how do i "restart" a battery?
[17:51] <Kingsy101> intel graphics ? I don't think so, not really sure what you mean
[17:51] <Guest84301> n8tuser > sysctl -a
[17:51] <ubuntunewbie> sonism : thanks reading now , will take some time to absorb and understand
[17:51] <Guest84301> n8tuser> fs.file-max = 189402
[17:51] <Besogon> Hello. I can't share folder. Actually, I did it, but files wasn't opened by nautilus.
[17:51] <n8tuser> Kingsy101-> i dont know if this is same as i/o interrupt problems that ubuntu have for a long time, a mere i/o interrupt servicing failure locks up the whole system, been observed since 6.10
[17:51] <Guest84301>  189402 > then 2048
[17:51] <Besogon> help
[17:51] <jet_> anyone know an easy way to block the annoying messages through pidgin?
[17:52] <Kingsy101> so can someone help me out with this ? I am not really sure where to go from here...
[17:52] <Mike_lifeguard> Kingsy101: do you have an intel graphics card in your computer? (I forget how to check this... hold on)
[17:52] <sonism> ubuntunewbie: you will need to thank edbian too. :D
[17:52] <fotis> some batteries have a restart button
[17:52] <Kingsy101> ok....
[17:52] <causasui> I'm getting no sound from flash video in firefox. Can anyone help?
[17:52] <worm> pepperjack, ok i downloaded the plugin from there : http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html and dropped it into ~/firefox/plugins. Then I restarted firefox, but it didn't take effect (i'm using amd64)
[17:52] <edbian> ubuntunewbie: sonism I hardly did anything!
[17:52] <n8tuser> Guest84301-> those numbers tell you what then?  not enuff inodes?
[17:52] <ubuntunewbie> sonism , edbian : thanks all :-D
[17:52] <Mike_lifeguard> Kingsy101: lspci | grep VGA
[17:52] <edbian> ubuntunewbie: thank sonism   :)
[17:52] <ohwhat> right, ok, i'll look for a restart button.
[17:52] <Kingsy101> ok 1 sec
[17:52] <Kingsy101> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. P4M890 [S3 UniChrome Pro] (rev 02)
[17:52] <Kingsy101> VIA
[17:53] <Mike_lifeguard> k, no idea then :(
[17:53] <Kingsy101> so I guess thats a no
[17:53] <Besogon> I can't share folder. Actually, I did it, but files wasn't opened by nautilus.
[17:53] <Kingsy101> Mike_lifeguard - any other ideas ?
[17:53] <Guest84301> n8tuser -> I just can't open more then 1024 files, but I need it
[17:53] <Mike_lifeguard> Kingsy101: no, sorry
[17:53] <Kingsy101> hmmm
[17:53] <blind|melon|chit> Hmm...no solution to the keyboard repeat problem in sight, and it affects multiple distributions :<
[17:53] <Guest84301> n8tuser -> open more then 1024 files in bash
[17:53] <binarymutant> what happened to packages.ubuntu.com?
[17:53] <ubuntunewbie> sonism , edbian : I have a few question too wanted to ask , about hardware .I had 2x1GB ram , I wanted to use virtualbox .Should I upgrade a single piece of 2GB or 2 piece of 1GB ram ?
[17:54] <Kingsy101> anyone else have any ideas why my pc might just suddenly stop responding ? is there some logs I can check or something ?
[17:54] <mehrsteckdose> So, I booted up into the Ubuntu 8.04 LTS CD... the sticky key problem is gone.
[17:54] <Besogon> Are there someone who can help me with samba share?
[17:54] <zero0ne> ANNOUNCING JEWBUNTU - LINUX FOR SUBHUMAN BEINGS
[17:54] <edbian> ubuntunewbie: I don't think you'll see a noticable difference with 1 stick of 2GB vs. 2 sticks of 1
[17:54] <Guest84301> n8tuser -> add ulimit -n 2048 in /etc/profile - don't helped me
[17:54] <Mike_lifeguard> I'm having some issues with mailing list MIME digests in Evolution. Normally, the attachment emails are downloaded in their entirety, but right now, Evolution is only downloading the headers for these emails. How can I force Evolution to get the entirety of the attachments to the digest email?
[17:54] <edbian> !ops | zero0ne
[17:55] <grawity> edbian: Um, he already quit.
[17:55] <edbian> grawity: Sorry
[17:55] <edbian> missed him
[17:55] <Besogon> I can't share folder. Actually, I did it, but files wasn't opened by nautilus.
[17:55] <mehrsteckdose> Is there a way to use an olderrrrrrrr kernel withhhhhhhhhhh a current reeeelease?
[17:55] <sonism> ubuntunewbie: i think you wouldn't need to...
[17:56] <n8tuser> Guest84301-> i cant remember the details on how to reset this to unlimited, i have to google for it
[17:56] <Guest76704> Hi there :) Can someone recommend an IDE with built-in folding (preferebly graphical)?
[17:56] <causasui> I'm getting no sound from flash video in firefox. Can anyone help?
[17:56] <Guest84301> I added * soft nofiles 65535 \n * hard nofiles 65535 to /etc/security/limits.conf but this don't helped me too
[17:56] <blind|melon|chit> mersteckdose: I'm guessing you're hit by the keyboard bug too :/ Plenty of people are, no plans to fix the bug in Jaunty
[17:56] <blind|melon|chit> (According to launchpad)
[17:57] <mehrsteckdose> I have the sticky        key issueeeeeeeeee in 9.04 but not theeeeeeeee 8.04  distro. I''''''''d like to stay current         thoug.
[17:57] <mehrsteckdose> Yeah,I 've seen.
[17:57] <Guest84301> n8tuser -> I added * soft nofiles 65535 \n * hard nofiles 65535 to /etc/security/limits.conf but this don't helped me too
[17:57] <mehrsteckdose> For some reason 8.04444444444 is at  least          on the stiiiiiiiiick is fine.
[17:57] <ubuntunewbie> sonism , edbian : I am using virtualbox , which need to allocate ram to it.Currently using 2GB.Once using vm , i need to allocate some amount of ram.1GB at lease
[17:57] <mehrsteckdose> Iiiiiiiii seem to have        it worse than usual thouggggggh.
[17:58] <edbian> ubuntunewbie: That is correct.  I run a virtual machine on only 1GB total (in my entire system).  I somtimes forget it's running cause I don't notice any lag.
[17:58] <n8tuser> Guest84301-> when your user issues  ulimit   what numbers you get?
[17:58] <blind|melon|chit> mehrsteckdose: Unfortunately it's a bug that's spread across pretty much every recent distribution you can use, it's a bug in the kernel...that's assigned to a dev, but nothing is happening
[17:58] <blind|melon|chit> Pretty bad way they're handling it really, it's a showstopper to say the least :>
[17:59] <Guest84301> n8tuser -> 2048
[17:59] <mehrsteckdose> blind|melon|chit: Yeah. It's killing me bad. I've loaded up every distro I can thiiiiiiiiink of. They         all have it.
[17:59] <blind|melon|chit> Right now it's bouncing back and forth between distro's telling people to report it to upstream and upstream blaming it on distro patches
[17:59] <n8tuser> Guest84301-> on mine   fs.file-max = 101761
[17:59] <n8tuser> thats on sysctl -a
[17:59] <otacon1221> Which is better at allocating bandwidth, a dedicated router running NAT, DHCP, DNS, and WPA2, or a Linux server gateway running those services?
[18:00] <n8tuser> Guest84301-> but when i issue ulimit,  i get unlimited
[18:00] <Nameless_au> does anyone here use moodle?
[18:00] <jet_> i have a noob question about installing an unpacked .tar
[18:00] <luca> !it
[18:00] <Guest84301> n8tuser -> try ulimit -n
[18:00] <blind|melon|chit> mehrsteckdose: I'd recommend maybe trying out FreeBSD or something similar, I have a feeling this one isn't going to be solved for a long while
[18:00] <lstarnes> jet_: it depends on what is in the tar
[18:00]  * Keiffer thanks edbian 
[18:00] <Besogon> Why am I ignored? Hello. I can't share folder. Actually, I did it, but files wasn't opened by nautilus.
[18:00] <edbian> NP!
[18:00] <n8tuser> Guest84301-> mine is only 1024
[18:00] <lstarnes> jet_: usually there's a file named README or INSTALL in it with info
[18:00] <trayzz> is there any other way of changing startup programs than in system->preferences->startup ? skype, pidgin and some other programs are startup applications even though they are not listed (and they shouldn't)
[18:00] <jet_> lstarnes: its bot sentry for pidgin
[18:01] <mehrsteckdose> blind|melon|chit: 2.6.30.3 doesn't seem to help either. Yeah, like I said, the 8.04 is working fine at least off the stick for now. I just didn't want to give up my 9.04 newness just yet.
[18:01] <Guest84301> n8tuser ->yep! me too! just 1024
[18:01] <jet_> blocks out all those come chat with me messages
[18:01] <Guest84301> n8tuser -> but veeery need more then 1024
[18:01] <Tr1n_> Besogon:  How are you trying to share your folder?  SMB?  NFS?  What have you done so far?
[18:01] <jet_> lstarnes: that makes sence now doesnt it?
[18:01] <n8tuser> Guest84301-> its been a while since i toyed with sysctl limits, i can not remember
[18:02] <lstarnes> jet_: not really
[18:02] <Guest84301> n8tuser -> you can change limit to lower value, but can't change to higher value ((((
[18:02] <NightVisio> how to install Fedora 11 from an iso image that lies in an ext3 partition?
[18:02] <Besogon> Tr1n_: SMB with Nautilus
[18:02] <NightVisio> is it possible?
[18:02] <Guest76704> Hi there :) Can someone recommend an IDE with built-in folding (preferebly graphical)?
[18:02] <lstarnes> jet_: there should be instructions included in the tar
[18:02] <Kingsy101> does anyone have any idea about my issue ?
[18:02] <NightVisio> I tried unetbootin, but it doesn't work somewhy
[18:02] <Tr1n_> Besogon:  Can you get to your folder via cli?
[18:02] <blind|melon|chit> mehrsteckdose: Yeah, it really sucks...I've fired off e-mails to the people that the bug has been assigned to at various points, either they wouldn't answer or they essentially said that it wasn't their problem as I mentioned before...the only way to move back to 8.04's kernel would be to move back to 8.04, unfortunately
[18:03] <lstarnes> jet_: usually it's in a file called INSTALL or README
[18:03] <trayzz> is there any other way of changing startup programs than in system->preferences->startup ? skype, pidgin and some other programs are startup applications even though they are not listed (and they shouldn't)
[18:03] <Besogon> Tr1n_: cli?
[18:03] <Chun1> Hi - I don't seem to have an 'add/remove programs' entry in my 'applications' menu any more -- running jaunty, can't think of anything that might have changed to hide/remove it
[18:03] <lstarnes> jet_: if not, then the method depends on what files are present
[18:03] <Besogon> Tr1n_: what is it?
[18:03] <dewdude> Chun1, you can accomplish the same thing using Synaptic.
[18:03] <mehrsteckdose> blind|melon|chit: Looks like that's how I'll have to go. Thhhhhhhhhanks forrrrrrrrr the info.
[18:04] <jet_> lstarnes: how do you cd to the file lol
[18:04] <jet_> i got as far as desktop
[18:04] <Tr1n_> Besogon:  cli is the command line.  Do you get an error when you try to navigate to the folder in Nautilus?
[18:04] <lstarnes> jet_: cd directory-name
[18:04] <lstarnes> jet_: also, ls
[18:04] <fanec75m> hello world
[18:04] <Forza4Life> anyone have a little time to help me get my tv tuner working   i think im really close to gettin it going  just need a little help
[18:04] <jet_> lstarnes: im having trouble typing it into terminal
[18:05] <ubuntizer> what is alternative of wvdial ?
[18:05] <jet_> i did cd ~/Desktop and thats as far as i got
[18:05] <lstarnes> jet_: not ls
[18:05] <lstarnes> jet_: oops.  Now type ls
[18:05] <lstarnes> jet_: that should list what you have on the desktop
[18:06] <albano> chan1,go to system/administration/main menu and add it
[18:06] <jet_> lstarnes: ok i see it
[18:06] <Kingsy101> does anyone have any idea about my issue ?
[18:06] <Besogon> Tr1n_: I have NO error, but I can't only open that. (permission denied) Nautilus can't get files mode bits
[18:06] <lstarnes> jet_: you can use cd to change directories
[18:07] <lstarnes> jet_: ls lists files and directories in the current one
[18:07] <jet_> lstarnes: thanks i didnt know i had to type in desktop too
[18:08] <Tr1n_> Besogon:  Do you have any permissions set on the folder you are trying to share?
[18:08] <jet_> lstarnes: i should be good from here
[18:08] <Keiffer> So, I managed to make ext partition to automount, but it has a folder in it Lost+found that has 2.5 GB. What is that?
[18:08] <jet_> lstarnes: alright when i get an error saying i need something how do i get that?
[18:09] <lstarnes> jet_: it depends on what you need
[18:09] <Keiffer> And is not accessible either. Not having permissions
[18:10] <gigabytes> hello
[18:10] <tzolkin> does anyone install this software: Smile, it used to create slideshows. I just download a deb from getdeb, and when I install it says there need smile-data, but I can't find it
[18:10] <tharvey> cannot get atftpd to run un jaunty (gives me usage msg - I have the correct usage and used to use on hardy) - what are people using for a tftp-server on jaunty?
[18:10] <jet_> lstarnes: http://paste.ubuntu.com/235318/
[18:10] <gigabytes> does the linux kernel support some sort of signing for kernel modules? I mean I would like to sign the modules in a way that unsigned modules can't be loaded
[18:11] <Besogon> Tr1n_: I created folder, right clicked on it, then I allowed guest permission for that folder, and at the end  I copped some files there  from FAT filesystem partition.
[18:11] <unperson> Hi.  I'm talking to a friend about her switching to Linux.  One question I'm trying to answer for her is this:  Is it possible to run iTunes with WINE in Jaunty and sync with one's iPod?
[18:11] <Keiffer> So, I managed to make ext partition to automount, but it has a folder in it Lost+found that has 2.5 GB. What is that?
[18:11] <unperson> I've never owned an iPod, so I don't know anything about this.
[18:11] <janisoza1r> Keiffer: it probably stores journal and connected information, but i might be slighlty wrong
[18:11] <lstarnes> jet_: you need a newer version of intltool for that
[18:11] <unperson> ...nor have I ever used iTunes.
[18:11] <janisoza1r> Keiffer: how big is this partition?
[18:12] <lstarnes> jet_: I don't know where to get a newer version of it or if it would be supported properly
[18:12] <AaronT1> unperson, it depends on what ipod you want to sync with the linux machine, ipod touchs won't work
[18:12] <m0r0n> I need help installing  Listen, can anyone help?
[18:12] <Tr1n_> Besogon:  So I don't understand.  You can access the folder but not the files, or you can't access the folder?
[18:12] <blind|melon|chit> unperson: Apple has altered the newer generations of the iPods so that they will only sync properly with iTunes, and iTunes running in Wine doesn't seem to do the trick
[18:13] <unperson> AaronMT, When using iTunes under WINE?  I thought it only mattered with native software.
[18:13] <blind|melon|chit> unperson: If you installed Windows in a recent version of VirtualBox, then iTunes, you -might- be able to sync it inside a VM...or you might not
[18:13] <Besogon> Tr1n_: I can asscess the folder but not the files
[18:13] <Johnny1> zdravo narode...
[18:13] <david_> hello there
[18:13] <damien_> How do I tell sftp what rsa key file to use?
[18:13] <qpmm> When I play audio in mplayer, it seems to be sending the sound to a random pulseaudio device such as /dev/shm/pulse-shm-640076188. What is the corresponding static audio device?
[18:13] <AaronT1> the newer versions of itunes don't work under wine, you wont be able to sync an ipod touch
[18:13] <janisoza1r> !ru | Johnny1
[18:13] <Keiffer> janisoza1r, 49 gb, lost and found has 2.5 gb, and I cant't write anything on it
[18:13] <unperson> blind|melon|chit, Yeah, I'm vaguely aware of the former (I guess the firmware checks a hash of the db produced by iTunes or something?), but I wasn't sure about the latter.
[18:14] <blind|melon|chit> unperson: Yeah, you can actually mount the iPod and put music onto it just fine, but none of it will play
[18:14] <david_> I was wondering if somebody can help uninstall Mandriva from my Ubuntu machine....
[18:14] <Johnny1> ima li tuka makedonci
[18:14] <janisoza1r> Keiffer: how do you know lost+found size?
[18:14] <Tr1n_> Besogon:  You more than likely do not have the permissions to those files.  You will need to go into Terminal and change them.
[18:14] <worm> pepperjack, ok i downloaded the plugin from there : http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html and dropped it into ~/firefox/plugins. Then I restarted firefox, but it didn't take effect (i'm using amd64)
[18:14] <unperson> blind|melon|chit, Yeah, I've been people saying they use virtual box, but that would require my friend to get a copy of Windows, so it's not such a desirable solution.
[18:15] <Keiffer> janisoza1r: properties on that partition
[18:15] <Flannel> david_: Make sure Ubuntu's GRUB is handling your booting, then just remove the mandriva partitions through a partition editor
[18:15] <Rezagrats> how do i enable wireless on a guest account ?
[18:15] <tvuser> hi, I'm trying to setup sidewinder joypad in jaunty. I've modeprobed sidewinder and joypad and i have the gameport loaded, but sudo cat /dev/input/js* fails... :-( can someone help me setting it?
[18:15] <janisoza1r> Johnny1: only english here, to learn what channel is your language spoken type "!" and your country iso name
[18:15] <jet_> can someone help me with this?
[18:15] <m0r0n> Is there no one out of the 1459 people in this channel who use Listen?
[18:15] <janisoza1r> Keiffer: then it's journal that occupies this space
[18:15] <masteron> hi all :) i have a question regarding my Recent Documents entry in the menu, i cannot clear the files there? Even though i removed all recently-used.xbel etc
[18:16] <janisoza1r> Keiffer: it's ext3, right?
[18:16] <Keiffer> janisoza1r, i have nothing on it, only that folder. can you help me in deleting this folder ?
[18:16] <blind|melon|chit> unperson: Yeah, it's not really a solution at all as if you already had Windows you wouldn't need to worry about syncing to an iPod anyway ;> Unfortunately that's the only chance there is
[18:16] <Keiffer> etx3
[18:16] <jet_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/235320/
[18:16] <unperson> blind|melon|chit, Right.  I appreciate the input.
[18:16] <Rezagrats> how do i enable wireless on a guest account ?
[18:16] <Tr1n_> Besogon:  http://catcode.com/teachmod/
[18:16] <janisoza1r> Keiffer: i doubt if it can be removed. or wheter it should be
[18:16] <Besogon> Tr1n_: ok. I 've just type share-admin in terminal and I am noticed that I haven't support NFS and SMB. :-D
[18:16] <stercor> Can someone enlighten me on Ubuntu's mechanism to get Apache2 and PostgreSQL working together?
[18:16] <unperson> blind|melon|chit, Of course my (non-) solution is "don't buy an iPod".
[18:16] <janisoza1r> Keiffer: you can try run nautiluls as su
[18:16] <albano> reyagrats: go to system,useracounts
[18:16] <janisoza1r> Keiffer: press alt-f2 and type "gksudo nautilus"
[18:17] <Keiffer> janisoza1r, ok. I wont delete it. But still, I want write permissions
[18:17] <Tr1n_> Besogon:  Problem solved!
[18:17] <janisoza1r> Keiffer: it will open nautilus with elevated privileges
[18:17] <Rezagrats> albano, is there a way to do it through the command line ?
[18:17] <janisoza1r> Keiffer: it's a system folder
[18:17] <grawity> stercor: You mean PHP and PostgreSQL? php5-pgsql is probably what you want.
[18:17] <Besogon> Tr1n_: :-D
[18:17] <SirTopHat> how do I install perl-base 5.8.7-10? I'vr tried it in  apt-get but I can't get it
[18:17] <Keiffer> janisoza1r, ok done. that. should I delete lost+found? It's empty
[18:17] <janisoza1r> Keiffer: you may want to read this: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/how-to-find-out-the-size-of-an-ext3-journal-how-to-change-that-615396/
[18:18] <blind|melon|chit> unperson: That's what I did yeah, I just picked up a Sony Walkman instead, works perfectly\
[18:18] <janisoza1r> Keiffer: leave it alone, it's the safest
[18:18] <damien_> "ssh -i" lets you specify an RSA key file. How do you do this with sftp?
[18:18] <Keiffer> janisoza1r, ok. thanks
[18:18] <nicklas_> yo, something wrong with the servers?
[18:19] <ramish> join pl
[18:19] <janisoza1r> Keiffer: ext3 has a feature called "journal", which monitors all the activity that is wanted from your disk, if your system fails it prevents from corrupting data by completing the action from before the failure or rolling it back to the previous state
[18:19] <janisoza1r> Keiffer: to learn more, i think you'll need to use wiki or google for it
[18:19] <stercor> grawity: I already have php5-pgsql.  Can I just pgconn in my php script?
[18:20] <worm> Can anyone help me please ? I downloaded the flash plugin from there : http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html and dropped it into ~/firefox/plugins. Then I restarted firefox, but it didn't take effect (i'm using amd64)
[18:20] <janisoza1r> worm: it's not "firefox"
[18:20] <Keiffer> janisoza1r, I will do that. But meanwhile, ls -l in my mount point for this partition shows I have rights. Not hte root
[18:20] <janisoza1r> worm: ".firefox"
[18:20] <Keiffer> but still I cant write
[18:20] <jet_> i need some help.... this is the first thing i ever tried to compile and install i dont know where i went wrong
[18:20] <janisoza1r> Keiffer: why do you want to have write permissions so badly?
[18:21] <unperson> AaronT1, blind|melon|chit What you both said seems to agree with what I've read elsewhere, but then do you have any idea what this article is going on about?  http://www.downloadsquad.com/2008/03/04/itunes-syncing-now-works-in-linux-with-wine/
[18:21] <worm> janisoza1r, i've downloaded the official release because I need the version 3.5 (the version from the repo is 3.0.12). So i installed it in ~/firefox
[18:21] <Keiffer> I want to make Transmission to autostart and download to that part
[18:21] <janisoza1r> worm: also you use ia32 or amd64?
[18:21] <worm> janisoza1r, amd64
[18:21] <grawity> stercor: You should be ... Create a page that only has <?php phpinfo(); ?>, open it, and it will tell you what extensions are on.
[18:22] <stercor> grawity: OK.  I'll try that.
[18:22] <AaronT1> unperson: that is an older version of itunes, that will only sync with older devices
[18:22] <badabadum> hola
[18:22] <janisoza1r> worm: then wait a sec
[18:22] <AaronT1> unperson: it won't sync with the ipod touch
[18:22] <SirTopHat> how do I install perl-base 5.8.7-10? I'vr tried it in  apt-get but I can't get it
[18:22] <unperson> AaronT1, I see.
[18:23] <ubuntunewbie> edbian : sorry I was away just now
[18:23] <Pici> SirTopHat: How are you trying?
[18:23] <hackel> Argh, why is it so bloody hard to keep packages.ubuntu.com up?!?
[18:23] <ubuntunewbie> edbian : how much ram are you using ? is it works well running with 1GB of ram ?
[18:23] <AaronT1> unperson: that itunes release is 7.6, and the latest is 8.2.1
[18:24] <SirTopHat> apt-get install perl-base5.8.7-10
[18:24] <fccf> SirTopHat: what version of ubuntu?
[18:24] <unperson> AaronT1, I guess I'll need to find out the specific iPod version she has and see what iTunes versions it's even compatible with.
[18:24] <SirTopHat> I've tried many other varients
[18:24] <SirTopHat> hm how do I tell my version
[18:24] <janisoza1r> worm: ok, i thought you downloaded ia32 version
[18:24] <janisoza1r> worm: anyway, it's ".firefox"
[18:24] <airtonix> anyone else using latest chromium and able to get it to honour proxy settings in gconf?
[18:24] <janisoza1r> worm: i think you can use ctrl-h in nautilus to make show hidden files
[18:24] <unperson> AaronT1, Yeah, I knew it wasn't the newest version, but I wasn't sure if that would be a problem.  Not being an iPod owner, those are the details I have no idea about, so it's good I asked.  :-)
[18:24] <Pici> SirTopHat: The package name doesn't include the version number.  just sudo apg-et install perl-base
[18:25] <AaronT1> unperson: :)
[18:25] <SirTopHat> Pici, I'm tyring to install irssi and that one specific version is the only one supported, it's a "dependency" and the version I have it too new apparently
[18:25] <Pici> SirTopHat: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[18:26] <SirTopHat> how do I tell?
[18:26] <stercor> grawity:  It seems as though they're hooked up.
[18:26] <Pici> SirTopHat: lsb_release -a
[18:26] <janisoza1r> SirTopHat: lsb_release
[18:26] <airtonix> anyone else using latest chromium and able to get it to honour proxy settings in gconf?
[18:26] <SirTopHat> I'm not at the actual PC right now, just a ssh terminal
[18:26] <SirTopHat> ok
[18:26] <SirTopHat> 9.04
[18:26] <Pici> SirTopHat: Why not install irssi from the repositories then?
[18:26] <worm> janisoza1r, should I put the libflashplayer.so file directly into ~/.firefox ? Not into a sub-directory ?
[18:26] <SirTopHat> how would I do that
[18:27] <Pici> SirTopHat: sudo apt-get install irssi
[18:27] <SirTopHat> I've...
[18:27] <SirTopHat> er
[18:27] <worm> janisoza1r, I also have a ~/.mozilla directory...that's odd
[18:27] <SirTopHat> I did that already then it said it had unmet dependencies for some perl thing. I tried installing that and that had unmet dependencies for this one version of perl-base
[18:27] <SirTopHat> why can't it just install the unmet dependencies by itself?
[18:28] <Pici> SirTopHat: It should. Sounds like theres some inconsistancies with your repositories.
[18:28] <Pici> SirTopHat: Can you do the following: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[18:28] <Pici> SirTopHat: Then: pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:28] <janisoza1r> worm: ~/.firefox/plugins
[18:29] <SirTopHat> can't find the package pastebinit
[18:29] <janisoza1r> SirTopHat: apt-cache search pastebin
[18:30] <SirTopHat> did you mean webboard
[18:30] <LordLandon> janisoza1r: sprunge.us
[18:30] <Pici> SirTopHat: Sounds like your /etc/apt/sources.list file does not have some of the repositories enabled.
[18:30] <janisoza1r> LordLandon: why me?
[18:30] <LordLandon> janisoza1r: http://sprunge.us
[18:30] <fiocinino> hello i have a problem  bluetooth  help me please
[18:30] <janisoza1r> LordLandon: why me?
[18:30] <SirTopHat> this SSH client doesn't support copying or pasting I think
[18:30] <worm> janisoza1r, still nothing
[18:31] <LordLandon> janisoza1r: no pastebininit.
[18:31] <SirTopHat> ok whatever, I'm not wasting my day with this. some other day
[18:31] <worm> janisoza1r, dropped libflashplayer.so into ~/.firefox/plugins
[18:31] <fiocinino> Can't connect RFCOMM socket connection refused
[18:32] <imam> anybody can help me>
[18:33] <janisoza1r> worm: locate says, that this files in my system resides here: /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so
[18:33] <albano> clear
[18:33] <janisoza1r> worm: which i guess would explain why it also works in opera, i think, as i was recently wondering.
[18:33] <worm> janisoza1r, well I guess you're using the firefox 3.0.12 from the repositories ?
[18:34] <janisoza1r> worm: tbh i don't know
[18:34] <janisoza1r> worm: wait a sec, i'll go and check
[18:34] <mechtech> Well...how goes the battle today?
[18:34] <janisoza1r> worm: it's 3.5.1
[18:35] <imam> anybody knows how to add d4x in opera?
[18:35] <worm> janisoza1r, you installed the package firefox-3.5 or firefox ? Because in my case i've downloaded the binaries from the mozilla website
[18:35] <janisoza1r> worm: oh, i guess you should've not
[18:35] <janisoza1r> !firefox-3.5 | worm
[18:36] <janisoza1r> imam: d4x?
[18:36] <AaronT1> to install firefox3.5 to the newst version i'd use ubuntuzilla
[18:36] <anonymous> lol
[18:37] <janisoza1r> worm: if you want to stay with your current binaries, then you should find it's installation dir (probably /opt/bin/firefox or sth like that) and put it in plugins dir over there
[18:37] <AaronT1> search for ubuntuzilla on sourceforge
[18:37] <imam> webdownloader for x
[18:38] <ideamonk> is iceweasel/icecat available for ubuntu ? i used it on debian lenny and iceweasel worked faster and smoother than firefox 3.0.x on my ubuntu 9.04
[18:38] <Guest53506> n8tuser -> next commands helped me: sudo passwd && su && ulimit -n 2048 ))))
[18:38] <grawity> ideamonk: Isn't IceWeasel basically Firefox with a different name?
[18:38] <grawity> ideamonk: There aren't any other differences, AFAIK.
[18:39] <mechtech> ideamonk: I KNOW it's available for Debian, and since Ubuntu is just a derivative, I would lean toward yes...but not sure on that
[18:39] <janisoza1r> ideamonk: are you sure iceweasel is actully something different from firefox?
[18:39] <worm> janisoza1r, the installation dir is ~/firefox (extracted it from the tar file). I've tried to drop the plugin into ~/firefox/plugins but it didn't work, that's strange i know :(
[18:39] <janisoza1r> ideamonk: like in firefox without branding?
[18:39] <ideamonk> grawity, yeah, i thought iceweasel was more compatible with linux !
[18:39] <fiver22> imam: you can get d4x from Synaptic Package Manager. Is that what you wanted?
[18:40] <grawity> ideamonk: IceWeasel is only Firefox minus the logo.
[18:40] <ideamonk> janisoza1r, hmm i think its not different, but dunno why i had a nice experience with it
[18:40] <mechtech> fire is to ice as weasel is to fox??  LOL
[18:40] <janisoza1r> worm: well, you can still try ~/.mozilla, beyond that i can't help you
[18:40] <ideamonk> grawity, oh... hmm
[18:40] <bobbob1016> Is it possible to have my computer monitor my network and adjust my usage accordingly?  I want to leave it as the downloader on my network, but I don't want it to use more a high percentage of my bandwidth of there is a lot of other traffic.
[18:40] <ideamonk> mechtech, fire is to ice as fox is to weasel :P
[18:41] <janisoza1r> !iceweasel
[18:41] <mechtech> ideamonk: oops
[18:41] <ubuntizer> Hello  :D
[18:41] <worm> janisoza1r, ok thanks anyway
[18:41] <mechtech> !hi | ubuntizer
[18:42] <ideamonk> ubuntizer, hello there
[18:42] <AaronT1> hello ubuntizer
[18:42] <mattgyver> bobbob1016, thats gonna rely more on your routers setup than anything else
[18:43] <benno_fra_dk> Hi - i'm new to irc. Is this where I ask why l2ping returns "invalid exchange" on my bluetooth gps?
 Wassup :)
[18:43] <fiocinino> hello Aaron
[18:43] <janisoza1r> !ask | benno_fra_dk
[18:43] <AaronT1> hello
[18:43] <fiocinino> Aaron i have problem to connect bluetooth
[18:43] <fiocinino> help me please
[18:44] <AaronT1> will it show the bluetooth icon in the tray
[18:45] <fiocinino> can't connect socket RFCOMM connection refused
[18:45] <fanec75m> how can i setup hotmail account in thunderbird, ubuntu jackalope 9, i have tried 100 times, please help...
[18:45] <imam> actually pop3 for hotmail it's closed
[18:46] <fanec75m> so i have no chance for  the moment?
[18:46] <AaronT1> fiocinino: whats the model of the bluetooth adapter, there might not be any linux drivers for it
[18:46] <worm> janisoza1r, what do you think about Chromium btw ? Does it support flash player ?
[18:46] <janisoza1r> worm: unofficially, yes
[18:46] <fiocinino> bcm 2040
[18:47] <janisoza1r> worm: wait, you mean chromium or google-chrome?
[18:47] <fiocinino> is mini 9 dell ubuntu intrepid
[18:47] <mechtech> fanec75m: try here: http://email.about.com/od/mozillathunderbirdtips/qt/et_free_hotmail.htm
[18:47] <worm> janisoza1r, i thought it was the same thing ?
[18:47] <janisoza1r> worm: technically not
[18:47] <daveletourneau> fiocinino: I have the same model and never had problem with my bluetooth gps and mouse
[18:47] <janisoza1r> worm: although google uses chromium as their base technology
[18:48] <janisoza1r> worm: but these are 2 different browsers
[18:48] <jlogic> www.google.com
[18:48] <janisoza1r> worm: i haven't used chromium for quite some time now, but google-chrome is nice
[18:48] <sonism> worm: chromium - fast paced, arcade-style, scrolling space shooter :D
[18:48] <Hetor`> I need a tool for checking HDD surface. Any suggestions?
[18:48] <daveletourneau> fiocinino: what device are you trying to pair with?
[18:48] <janisoza1r> worm: hehe, yeah, you mean chromium-browser ;)
[18:48] <imam> bro, how to play warcraft in ubuntu?
[18:49] <janisoza1r> worm: i dislike some things in it, am a die-hard firefox fan, but chrome is small and takes only a second to load, while firefox, especially with weave, is soooo sluggish to start
[18:49] <fiocinino> gps nokia ld-3w daveltourneau
[18:49] <worm> I'm just looking for a browser that displays pages smoother and faster than firefox3.0.12 (firefox 3.5.1 does it) and which supports flash player too, that's quite simple actually :|
[18:49] <fanec75m> thanks mechtech
[18:50] <janisoza1r> worm: go for ff3.5
[18:51] <worm> janisoza1r, the problem with the "shirekoto" thing is that there are a few websites which does not recognize it as "firefox" so you can't access to some functions...that's pretty annoying for me
[18:51] <daveletourneau> fiocinino: hmm, ok. So, can you confirm that the os is up to date, the bluetooth icon appears in the tray and you can see your gps in the detected bluetooth device list?
[18:51] <janisoza1r> worm: well, you can change useragnet in about:config
[18:52] <worm> janisoza1r, ok i'll give it a try then, brb
[18:52] <daveletourneau> I had some problem initially with Ubuntu 9.04. The bluetooth stack was broken at first
[18:52] <janisoza1r> also there might be some explanation how to switch to firefox in ubottu's !firefox-3.5
[18:52] <ptn107> worm: you can use the user agent switcher to change 'shiretoko' to 'firefox' (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/59)
 yes
[18:52] <mechtech> hetor: man fsck
[18:53] <daveletourneau> fiocinino: Have you tried to pair with a secure connection?
[18:53] <fiocinino> yes davel
[18:53] <mechtech> fanec75m: did that work for you?
[18:54] <fiocinino> I followed a how to that I found on the ubuntu forum
[18:54] <ladinu> anyone know how to use distcc over SSH?
[18:55] <om26er> ikonia: please help me my wireless internet is working but wired internet says device not managed
[18:55] <arisv> hello, because packages.ubuntu.com seems to be down for me so I have to download the packages each one seperated, did aircrack have any dependencies required?
[18:55] <arisv> :)
[18:55] <fanec75m> mechtech now i am trying
[18:55] <mechtech> om26er: man interfaces
[18:55] <mechtech> fanec75m: lemme know
[18:55] <om26er> mechtech: what?
[18:55] <fiocinino> daveletourneau: I followed a how to that I found on the ubuntu forum
[18:56] <mechtech> om26er: refer to the man pages for interface...I've found them to be invaluable
[18:56] <Hetor`> mechtech: I can't see an option to check the surface
[18:56] <mechtech> Hetor: you suspect a bad drive?
[18:56] <mechtech> Hetor: making noises?
[18:56] <mechtech> Hetor: what's up?
[18:57] <arisv> anyone?
[18:57] <daveletourneau> fiocinino: ok, can you give me the url and the step that didn't work?
[18:57] <ProfOak> Is the Synpatic Manager being super slow for anyone?
[18:57] <daveletourneau> fiocinino: When you try to pair the GPS have you seen the option to send a 4 digit code?
[18:57] <janisoza1r> arisv: "sudo dpkg -i package.deb" and it'll complain if it want's something else
[18:58] <attorianzo> Why soundservers are necessary? aren't ALSA drivers and alsa libs and applications enough?
[18:58] <genii> ladinu: Maybe see the section headed "Security" at http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/9814
[18:58] <Hetor`> mechtech: when I run my computer, it says "A problem with the hard drive has been detected blaaaaaah" before loading GRUB. Sometimes fails too boot, some files become broken.
[18:59] <Hetor`> to*
[18:59] <lomez> hi all, random question. i was doing some updates on my eee pc (ubuntu netbook remix) and somehow i screwed up grub. now it only boots into memtest. suggestions?
[18:59] <janisoza1r> !grub | lomez
[18:59] <Cube__> hey
[19:00] <janisoza1r> lomez: there might be copy of your previous menu.lst in /boot/grub
[19:00] <lomez> ty janisoza1r, do you recommend just going through the reinstall grub? there might be, but i cant boot into anything but memtest, doesnt give me any other options
[19:00] <worm> ptn107, great addon thanks, but how do i know the correct navigator.userAgent value ?
[19:01] <worm> ptn107, i got this : Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.1) Gecko/20090716 Ubuntu/9.04 (jaunty) Shiretoko/3.5.1
[19:01] <ProfOak> No one is having problems with the synaptic package manager? I'm downloading at like 3-7 KB/s. Just a tad slow, for a cable connection.
[19:01] <janisoza1r> lomez: i dislike reinstalling grub, i'd rather recover the menu.lst based on existing values
[19:01] <Cube__> im trying to get kismet to run. how do i know that it can actually run on my wifi card?
[19:01] <ladinu> genii, thanks
[19:01] <mechtech> Hetor: fsck hda1 (or whatever) -v for verbose output...this will tell you whether the filesystem is corrupt...if you find that fsck cannot repair the volume...backup all your data and perform a low-level format, this will write all zeros to the drive, then all 1s over and over until it is totally blank...then re-partition, re-format using ext3 or whatever and re-install OS
[19:02] <fiocinino> Daveletourneau : all step ok "rfcomm connect rfcomm0 MAC channel "  connection refused
[19:02] <sonism> lomez: try to Find /boot/grub/menu.lst~ It will be there by default if you edited menu.lst with gedit
[19:02] <Hetor`> mechtech: I have already checked my filesystems
[19:03] <mechtech> Hetor: but if you DO have physical damage to the platters, or read-write armiture, then it's time for a new drive
[19:03] <lomez> ok thanks sonism , janisoza1r
[19:03] <mechtech> Hetor: ok...if your filesystem is intact, then the drive is undamaged...you may need to re-install GRUB loader the theR
[19:04] <om26er> device not managed error can anyone help me
[19:04] <mechtech> Hetor: to the MBR
[19:04] <mechtech> om26er: what device?
[19:04] <Hetor`> mechtech: but the message appears before GRUB even starts to load, so it has nothing to do with my problem
[19:04] <om26er> mechtech: ethernet card
[19:05] <ptn107> worm: Tools -> Default user agent -> Edit user agents; then add a 'new' user agent, change all instances of shiretoko to firefox, click ok; now use the tools -> default user agent -> to change to the user agent you just created
[19:05] <mechtech> Hetor: any way you could get the EXACT error, and post it?
[19:05] <mechtech> om26er: man interfaces
[19:06] <Hetor`> mechtech: how? Capture boot process to my mobile phone?
[19:06] <worm> pnt107, works fine, thanks
[19:06] <mechtech> Hetor: was hoping maube you could write it down =)
[19:06] <mechtech> maube = maybe
[19:06] <fanec75m> mechtech it works only to recive messages, i still cant send any message
[19:06] <Cube__> test
[19:07] <Hetor`> mechtech: "A problem with the hard drive has been detected. Press enter to continue." Then GRUB loads.
[19:07] <Guest75> ok is any1 here one of these so called phone geeks
[19:07] <mechtech> fanec75m: use your ISP's smtp server for sending
[19:07] <aypee> Hi. I'm mounting my /home from an NFS server. Everything works great but I can't suspend from Gnome. It just hangs with a black screen and a flashing cursor. Any pointers to troubleshooting steps I could take? I can't find anything pertinent in the log files.
[19:08] <Kingsy101> can someone suggest a FTP client I can use on ubuntu ? preferably something similar to FlashFXP
[19:08] <kane77> hi, copying on my pendrive is slow (600-300kB/s), what could cause it?
[19:08] <tvuser> hi, I'm trying to setup sidewinder joypad in jaunty. I've modeprobed sidewinder and joypad and i have the gameport loaded, but sudo cat /dev/input/js* fails... :-( can someone help me setting it?
[19:08] <Cube__> kane77: is it connected to an USB 2.0?
[19:08] <Hetor`> mechtech: anyways, I've asked for a tool which can check the HDD surface. Do you know any?
[19:08] <AaronT1> aypee, mine hangs with a black screen to
[19:08] <mechtech> Hetor: but fsck returns good results?
[19:08] <kane77> Cube__, yes
[19:08] <Kingsy101> I still havnt fixed that crashing issue, but it hasnt happened again so I am thinkin just wait until it happens again
[19:08] <jonex_> ubuntu doesnt let me get in into a specific website
[19:08] <Hetor`> mechtech: yes (after a long repair)
[19:08] <Kingsy101> and I will try Ctrl Alt F1 etc
[19:09] <AaronT1> aypee, i think its just an issue with ubuntu
[19:09] <th0r> jonex_: which site?
[19:09] <kane77> Cube__, at least in windows this port worked as usb2 port
[19:09] <mechtech> Hetor: no, and as I said if there were a problem with the surface, there would be a problem with the filesystem
[19:09] <aypee> AaronT1: It worked OK for me in Hardy
[19:09] <AaronT1> aypee, it only happens to me when i hibernate though
[19:09] <mechtech> sorry =(
[19:09] <nawk> I need help removing a package I didn't properly install (due to dependancy and stuff) using the 'dpkg'
[19:09] <Pici> Guest75: Why not ask your real question and we can either answer it or forward you on to a more appropriate channel.
[19:09] <Guest75> i am trying to find a link to down lload on my htc touch pro im not a geek but i am capable of certain thing im trying to find a app that is a car pricing guide for my phone
[19:09] <jonex_> th0r: denschool.com ....everybody can acces except me
[19:10] <aypee> AaronT1: Does it only happen when you're logged in?
[19:10] <Hetor`> mechtech: filesystem was broken though. I repaired it recently. And some weird stull is happening to my OS. Input/Output errors, broken files, etc.
[19:10] <nawk> i tried doing 'dpkg --purge googleearth-package' but it is saying : dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove googleearth-package which isn't installed.'
[19:10] <Hetor`> stuff*
[19:10] <AaronT1> atpee, yeah
[19:10] <nawk> but the files are in fact in '/usr/lib/googleearth'
[19:10] <nawk> i want to clean it
[19:11] <th0r> jonex_: I got to the login screen without aproblem. what happens when you try to go there?
[19:11] <aypee> AaronT1: What's the OS on your server?
[19:11] <AaronT1> ubuntu
[19:11] <aypee> AaronT1: Jaunty?
[19:11] <AaronT1> yep
[19:11] <jonex_> th0r: loading and loading  and loading..and then erros comes out
[19:11] <fiver22> jonex_: I tried it and can't get it either -Server Not Found
[19:12] <kroson> hi people
[19:12] <AaronT1> i hibernated earlier today, but it hung with a black screen, it did it before on my old comp
[19:12] <th0r> jonex_: do you get the login screen and then it hangs when you try to login, or does it hang before the login screen appears?
[19:12] <kroson> ive been trying to use karmic since alpha2, but my wireless is not working
[19:12] <mechtech> hetor: I thought earlier you said your filesystem was intact...sorry...my son is restless in my arms need to put him to sleep...brb
[19:12] <kroson> it is a 3945abg intel wireless card
[19:12] <Pici> kroson: Karmic support and discussion is in #ubuntu+1
[19:12] <kroson> i think the new version of the driver broke it
[19:12] <kroson> any solution as of now?
[19:12] <zopiac> my Rock Band USB Microphone shows up just as "USB Audio" in my Sound Preferences. It used to say Logitech USB Microphone, but now it shows this and doesn't work properly. Can anyone help me fix this?
[19:12] <kroson> ah ok
[19:13] <jonex_> th0r: nope ...Page Load error
[19:14] <th0r> jonex_: do you have noscript installed? or do you have javascript disabled?
[19:14] <jonex_> th0r: how i know that bro?
[19:14] <aypee> AaronT1: Do you have hibernation problems without an NFS mount?
[19:14] <xiong> i attempt to delete an empty folder in evolution -- the error is 'cannot delete folder "adeleteme"' -- what is the solution?
[19:15] <AaronT1> aypee, yep
[19:15] <Hetor`> mechtech: this started happening after a thunderstorm though. The power went off, then I saw that message for first time and found my filesystems broken. So I belive my harddrive got physycal damamge. I just want to run a surface check to make sure.
[19:15] <AaronT1> aypee, i think its just an OS problem
[19:15] <AaronT1> aypee, suspend works on my comp though
[19:15] <th0r> jonex_: well, if you had installed noscript in firefox you should know it, as for javascript...check Edit-Preferences-Content to see that java and javascript are both checked
[19:15] <zopiac> i've never gottem MIDO output to work quite right on any of my computers in my two years of using linux...can anyone help?
[19:15] <zopiac> sorry, meant MIDI
[19:16] <knitt1> hi. i'm having problems with totem since i reinstalled ubuntu
[19:16] <knitt1> i don't have any sound and the volume button is greyed out
[19:16] <knitt1> sound works fine in vlc, banshee, rhythmbox, …
[19:16] <jonex_> th0r: both are checked
[19:16] <ju14> jucyvânia
[19:17] <Evil-Cat> hi
[19:17] <AaronT1> hi
[19:17] <aypee> AaronT1: Sorry. I was getting confused. Do you have SUSPEND problems without an NFS mount?
[19:17] <Evil-Cat> how can i install gcc updates ??
[19:17] <fiver22> jonex_: I cant get the site or even ping it
[19:17] <Evil-Cat> i'm new in ubuntu
[19:17] <th0r> jonex_: although that isn't likely to be the issue since it is a simple html form and not a script per se. The page is actually very simple and should load quickly.
[19:17] <janisozaur> Evil-Cat: what updates exactly?
[19:17] <AaronT1> aypee, i don't have any problems with suspend
[19:18] <AaronT1> aypee, just hibernate
[19:18] <Evil-Cat> janis i think to install all updates
[19:18] <aypee> AaronT1: OK
[19:18] <jonex_> exactly
[19:18] <janisozaur> !tab | Evil-Cat
[19:18] <knitt1> i don't get any warnings in console (except one about hash module from python, but i think that'? unrelated)
[19:18] <knitt1> any ideas?
[19:18] <janisozaur> Evil-Cat: use update manager
[19:18] <Evil-Cat> ok
[19:18] <Evil-Cat> thx
[19:18] <snoopddrm> hello everyone
[19:19] <janisozaur> snoopddrm: hello
[19:19] <th0r> jonex_: don't know where to go from here....I got it to load without hesitation. Not an xhtml expert...but the page isn't that complex <smile>
[19:19] <shane2peru> I have an easy question, I had installed fusion-icon to manage between compiz and metacity, now I removed it from startup and metacity no longer loads, any ideas?
[19:19] <snoopddrm> janisozaur: hello
[19:19] <jonex_> th0r: im getting desperate cuz thats  the website im working on int
[19:20] <shane2peru> how do I get metacity to load on startup?
[19:20] <snoopddrm> janisozaur:  its me again from yesterday ;-) i've gotten ubuntu to work good, no more hangings or firefox refusing to start ;-)
[19:20] <lomez> forgive my stupidity if this is obvious, but i just booted into an ubuntu live cd and it just takes me to a bash shell, not the gui-iffic live environment. how do i start x/gnome?
[19:20] <Whitor> Does anyone else have a problem with firefox, facebook, and adding photos ?
[19:21] <AaronT1> shane2peru, i'd reinstall compiz-fusion then right click on the icon and select metacity windows manager
[19:21] <Whitor> it works once... then the next time I go to add a photo, FF greys out and I have to kill it and restart it
[19:21] <knitt1> lomez: sure it's a live cd and not an alternate one?
[19:21] <th0r> jonex_: OK...let's see if I can explain what just happened. I opened the link you posted with a right click, and it opened no problem. But there is a 'Test Link' near the top of the page that points to the same url, and it took forever to load just now
[19:21] <snoopddrm> janisozaur: is there a GUI interface for removing/resizing/deleting/merging partitions on disks?
[19:21] <lomez> knitt1, yes, ive used it before (to install the system)
[19:21] <ubuntizer> Hello all :P
[19:21] <knitt1> lomez: try sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[19:21] <thiebaude> ubuntizer, hi
[19:21] <shane2peru> AaronT1: I really quit using Compiz, so I would like to get metacity without having to have the fusion-icon running.
[19:21] <axisys> at my work the wireless is only available through leap.. and I am running ubuntu .. so should I jsut install wicd pkg for leap to work with ubuntu latest ?
[19:22] <Sj4lut_> I have Radeon X700 Pro (PCIE) and somehow I can't play nexuiz... Just like my card would be to slow? I didn't installed any drivers. When ubuntu was installed my X worked properly but when playing games it's a little laggy... HOw can I check if my drivers are properly installed?
[19:22] <th0r> jonex_: but now it seems to be reloading quite quickly
[19:22] <lomez> ty Knightlust
[19:22] <lomez> ty knitt1
[19:22] <PolitikerNEU> Hello, does anybody know how configure tomcat so I can access it from hosts != localhost?
 Wassup
[19:22] <thiebaude> ubuntizer, not much
[19:22] <shane2peru> AaronT1: and metacity worked fine before, just odd to me that doesn't start now
[19:22] <glmo> Hi
 same here :) so you too new to ubuntu ? m a newbie
[19:22] <axisys> i see it tries to remove network-manager.. yikes ..
[19:22] <jonex_> th0r: I D K what else to do
[19:22] <axisys> wicd that is
[19:22] <daveletourneau> Whitor: Maybe not a fix but try to install prism-facebook. It makes Facebook a standalone app on your desktop (there are many other prism webapp available and you can create your own too. It's just a browser without all the functionnalities)
[19:23] <knitt1> my volume control is greyed out in totem and i don't have sound. i can't seem to fix the problem by myself. can anybody please help me?
[19:23] <th0r> jonex_: I would guess there might be an issue between your isp and this server, it seems to be working ok from here (maryland, usa)
[19:23] <glmo> Is it possible to choose wich packages That should be installed in the ubuntu installation?
[19:23] <snoopddrm> hi, can anyone tell me how to delete partitions in ubuntu?
[19:23] <jiohdi> is there any need of an anti-virus for ubuntu?
[19:23] <AaronT1> shane2peru: id google it, you might have to edit a startup script to make it work again
[19:23] <janisozaur> snoopddrm: gparted
[19:23] <Pici> jiohdi: No, unless you are serving files to windows users.
[19:23] <lomez> jiohdi, not really, but there is ClamAV if youre interested
[19:23] <thiebaude> ubuntizer, yea, offtopic is at #ubuntu-offtopic, this place is only support questions
[19:23] <jonex_> th0r: an issue like what?...... thats weird weird
[19:23] <snoopddrm> janisozaur: is it a GUI or text based interface?
[19:23] <laclasse> jiohdi, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=9089
[19:23] <Whitor> daveletourneau, ok, I'll try it, thank you :)
[19:24] <jiohdi> thanks
[19:24] <daveletourneau> NP works great for me
 oh i didnt knew it :) thanks :D
[19:24] <janisozaur> snoopddrm: parted is the main (cli) wrapper for libparted, gparted is gtk gui
[19:24] <Sj4lut_> !ati
[19:24] <thiebaude> ubuntizer, np:D
[19:24] <otacon1221> Is Ubuntu Server better at allocating bandwidth than a dedicated router?
[19:24] <piglit>  what was the command to view network errors in console ?
[19:25] <janisozaur> piglit: ifconfig
[19:25] <janisozaur> piglit: oh, errors... hmm...
[19:25] <th0r> jonex_: don't know. my tracert to denschool.com completes in 16 steps...not unusual or unacceptable
[19:25] <laclasse> otacon1221, not out of the box, good router can do traffic shaping etc ... you can turn a linux box into a router, but it might be a lot of effort compare to getting the right router.
[19:25] <linuxguy2009> Does anyone know if there is any online documentation about creating icon themes for gnome? Or any IRC rooms?
[19:26] <knitt1> linuxguy2009: #ubuntu-artwork maybe
[19:26] <linuxguy2009> thank you knitt1
[19:26] <snoopddrm> janisozaur: ok, thanx!!!!
[19:26] <ltcabral> hey im trying to install kerberos with: sudo apt-get install krb5-{admin-server,kdc} and im getting this: failed to open configuration file `/home/users/luist/.dpkg.cfg' for reading: Permission denied
[19:27] <otacon1221> Hmm...Well, the problem I have is there are five devices in use on the network at any given time - A Windows box, my Linux box, my brother's Mac box, a networked printer, and my brother's X-Box 360, and I can't get any of the devices to communicate with each other
[19:27] <otacon1221> And the X-Box 360 is a huge bandwidth hog
[19:27] <janisozaur> ltcabral: aren't parentheses escaped by bash perhaps?
[19:28] <ltcabral> janisozaur: the command is right... it worked when i used before... but now im getting this error
[19:28] <grawity> janisozaur: The command is correct, it will install krb5-admin, krb5-server, and krb5-kdc
[19:28] <grawity> ltcabral: Check your ~/.dpkg.cfg
[19:28] <janisozaur> ok
[19:29] <ltcabral> grawity: there isnt any
[19:29] <Keiffer> What command do you use for listing all open ports on Ubuntu machines?
[19:29] <janisozaur> Keiffer: netstat with some options perhaps
[19:29] <grawity> ltcabral: There is no /home/users/luist/.dpkg.cfg ?
[19:29] <marchizzi> hi
[19:29] <Keiffer> janisozaur, ok.
[19:29] <ltcabral> grawity: no
[19:29] <ltcabral> grawity: how can i make one
[19:29] <Keiffer> Should I use Firestarter?
[19:30] <Sj4lut_> How can I check what driveres do I use for my ati x700 pro? radeon or ati(fglrx)
[19:30] <Sj4lut_> ?
[19:30] <Pakas> ups in spanish
[19:30] <otacon1221> laclasse, my main issues that I'm trying to solve are that I want all the devices to be able to communicate with each other and that I want something that can give me more fine-tuned controls over bandwidth allocation, such as what services/protocols get priority and stuff like that
[19:31] <coz_> Sj4lut_,  ah let me check hold on
[19:31] <racecar56> how do i make a secopndary x display
[19:31] <petx> !vpn
[19:31] <racecar56> *secondary
[19:31] <rioch> hi, I have some partitions on a second hdd that are ext4 (created during install) but they are owned by root, so users cannot write to them. How can I change that?
[19:31] <axisys> i notice leap just worsk with mandriva
[19:31] <ltcabral> grawity: so?
[19:31] <rioch> they are mounted
[19:31] <Sj4lut_> rioch: chmod -R a+wrx /partition
[19:31] <helo> is there a jaunty line dvd?
[19:32] <helo> live dvd
[19:32] <axisys> is there a way i can make leap to work seemless in ubuntu like in mandriva ?
[19:32] <laclasse> otacon1221, do you have a router? buy a wrt54g, they are cheap, and run linux with open source firmwares that are very powerful
[19:32] <coz_> Sj4lut_,  try   glxinfo|grep OpenGL\ version
[19:32] <Sj4lut_> rioch: u can also specify what group can use this partition with command chown
[19:32] <Whitor> daveletourneau, Same prob with prism .... must be a prob with java on my machine
[19:32] <Sj4lut_> coz_: OpenGL version string: 1.3 Mesa 7.4
[19:33] <mechtech> keifer: sudo ufw status
[19:33] <otacon1221> I have a D-Link WBR-2310, but I don't know if I can do any Linux firmwares with it
[19:33] <Sj4lut_> coz_: wow, I don't have drivers at all? :D
[19:33] <laclasse> otacon1221, have a look at http://www.dd-wrt.com/dd-wrtv3/dd-wrt/about.html
[19:33] <coz_> Sj4lut_,  that seems to be the case  :)
[19:33] <Sj4lut_> lol
[19:33] <rioch> Sj4lut_: I'll give it a try. What user should I use since I want all users to be able to access the partition?
[19:33] <laclasse> otacon1221, see that page and click the 'supported hardware' tag
[19:33] <ryanakca> I have a box A behind a NAT and can't forward the port. I can ssh a box B on the outside. Is it possible to create a tunnel from B->A without forwarding the port on the router?
[19:33] <Sj4lut_> rioch: than doesn't matter just sudo chmod -R a+wrx /partition
[19:33] <darkhamm> can i browse packages in synaptic by the reposytory link?
[19:34] <laclasse> otacon1221, seems you are out of luck: http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Known_incompatible_devices
[19:34] <Jordanmota> how can I tell what soundcard I have in this computer? Any terminal commands?
[19:34] <Sj4lut_> coz_: for full 3d support It's better fglrx? Since I have ati x700 ?
[19:34] <genii> lspci
[19:34] <rioch> Sj4lut_: will it be remembered when I reboot?
[19:34] <janisozaur> ryanakca: ssh con forward ports, but it's beyond my knowledge and experience
[19:34] <Sj4lut_> rioch: yes
[19:34] <coz_> Jordanmota,  you could open a terminal and type   alsamixer and the card should be identified there
[19:34] <laclasse> otacon1221, in any, your d-link should be able to do traffic shapping, and dhcp so all your hosts . devices have an ip address on the same subnet
[19:34] <ryanakca> otacon1221: OpenWRT maybe?
[19:34] <Guest85087> ola
[19:34] <Whitor> ryanakca, you could forward every port. YOu couldalso VPN into a tunnel setup on your router ... but you'd have to set that up first
[19:35] <coz_> Sj4lut_,  good question I would go to #compiz and ask  adamk  since he is more the ati guy  I thed towards nvidia stuff
[19:35] <laclasse> ryan8403_work, dd-wrt is a spinoff openwrt, device is marked incompatible atm
[19:35] <Jordanmota> coz: thanks, will try it
[19:35] <AaronT1> otacon1221: you could use the tomato firmware,
[19:35] <aypee> Hi. NFS mounted /home prevents suspend in Gnome. How can I troubleshoot?
[19:35] <Sj4lut_> coz_: ok
[19:35] <ltcabral> help plz... i dont have a ~/dpkg.cfg ... how do i get one?
[19:36] <AaronT1> otacon1221: see if it supports your device
[19:37] <petx> hi all... I try to connect to VPN... any clue...??
[19:37] <laclasse> ryanakca, can you ping A to B? if not, you will need to open a port
[19:37] <Evet> I have to assign localhost.localdomain to 127.0.0.1 HOW can I do it??
[19:38] <rioch> Sj4lut_: thanks, that worked. Also, will this allow any user to mount/unmount them. At the moment only root can do it.
[19:38] <janisozaur> Evet: man hosts
[19:38] <otacon1221> Aaron, Unfortunately, none of the Linux firmwares will work with the router I have
[19:38] <mechtech> Evet: why would you want to assign localhost.localdomain to loopback?
[19:38] <daveletourneau> Evet: gksudo gedit /etc/hosts
[19:38] <ryanakca> laclasse: Yes, I can ping A to B, but not B to A
[19:39] <coz_> Jordanmota,  you can also in terminal do   less /proc/asound/module
[19:39] <AaronT1> otacon1221: i have a router, that wont work with linux firmwares as well, its a pain
[19:39] <rioch> Sj4lut_: In fact, when I unmount them with root, my normal user cannot mount them.
[19:39] <mechtech> ryanakca: firewall on B?
[19:39] <Evet> mechtech, I'm trying to install wordpress mu on my local server. It doesnt work without localdomain
[19:39] <Sj4lut_> rioch: I think there is some command mount or something in this chan that explain how non root can do it
[19:39] <Evet> Thank you daveletourneau
[19:39] <Sj4lut_> !mount
[19:39] <daveletourneau> Evet: NP :)
[19:40] <Sj4lut_> coz_: I'm a little confused: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI Here on this page says that first I have to enable in system, hardware drivers and than reconfigure some modules for ati to enable, but I don't have any proprietary drivers in the menu...
[19:40] <ryanakca> mechtech: router in the way, and I can't forward from router->B
[19:41] <portuguesemafia> how do you change the xboot on 9.10
[19:41] <portuguesemafia> i cant see 9.04 and vista
[19:41] <Pici> !9.10 | portuguesemafia
[19:41] <mechtech> ryanakca: why can't forward from router to B?  it just won't work?
[19:41] <coz_> Sj4lut_,  well as I said   one of the other gusy in #compiz  should help and I believe soreau  just mentioned that you card is fully supported by the open drivers and fglrx is not as of a few months ago
[19:41] <otacon1221> Aaron, I'm thinking of just building a Linux server with a multi-core processor and using Quagga as the router software
[19:42] <drakeman> hey ubuntu guys!
[19:42] <Sj4lut_> coz_: I saw :
[19:42] <Sj4lut_> )
[19:42] <coz_> :)
[19:42] <mechtech> !hi | drakeman
[19:42] <ryanakca> mechtech: I don't have access to the router
[19:42] <drakeman> mechtech, hey, ubottu  hey....
[19:42] <portuguesemafia> ubottu -thanks
[19:42] <AaronT1> otacon1221: that would be better, a server might be able to distribute bandwidth better than a router
[19:42] <Jordanmota> how can I tell what motherboard I have? Terminal command would be ace =)
[19:43] <moustafaza> Anyone has any idea on how to remove PAM? I've uninstalled all of it's files but still when I try to use sudo it give me an that error "sudo: unable to initialize PAM: No such file or directory"
[19:43] <otacon1221> Yeah, and Samba allows Mac, Unix/Linux, and Windows machines to communicate with each other
[19:43] <mechtech> ryanakca: passwd issue?
[19:43] <vital_> Jordanmota, you can try "lshw"
[19:43] <coz_> Jordanmota,  yes   sudo lshw
[19:43] <Sj4lut_> !radeon
[19:44] <AaronT1> otacon1221: yeah, it would also allow you to store backups onto it aswell, which is a big plus
[19:44] <ryanakca> mechtech: No, I just can't login to it.
[19:45] <mechtech> ryanakca: trying to ride someone else's wireless?  =)
[19:45] <ryanakca> mechtech: No, work box
[19:45] <coz_> Jordanmota,  if you do  sudo lshw | more it will be easier to maneuver through the info
[19:46] <coz_> Jordanmota,   sudo lshw | more
[19:46] <janisozaur> coz_: "less" is even more useful
[19:46] <coz_> janisozaur,  ok :)
[19:46] <mechtech> ryanakca: you either need admin rights to the router, or get with your IT guys...seems to me
[19:46] <moustafaza> Anyone has any idea on how to remove PAM? I've uninstalled all of it's files but still when I try to use sudo it give me an that error "sudo: unable to initialize PAM: No such file or directory"
[19:47] <Saruji_> hey guys question, whenever I leave my computer on for a long time when I come back it runs very slow?
[19:47] <otacon1221> Aaron, yeah...The specs of the server I plan to build:  MicroATX motherboard with Intel Core2 Quad Kentsfield, 8GB DDR2 800MHz RAM, 1TB Serial ATA hard drive, Serial ATA DVD burner, and a PCI-E x4 two-port Gigabit NIC card...I'm hoping I can run NAT/Firewall, DHCP, DNS, Routing and Remote Access, and File and Print Server capabilities and use it as the gateway device
[19:47] <Saruji_> Jaunty 9.04
[19:47] <Bash_> Just bought a new external HDD, should I format it into ext2 or ext3? Any difference?
[19:47] <mechtech> moustafaza: sudo apt-get remove PAM
[19:47] <Jordanmota> Thank you - vital and coz
[19:47] <janisozaur> Bash_: ext3, maybe even ext4
[19:47] <coz_> Jordanmota,  no problem
[19:47] <Bash_> Will be used as a storage device
[19:48] <mechtech> Bash: ext3
[19:48] <Bash_> janisozaur: ext4 easy to get working in mac/windows as well?
[19:48] <otacon1221> janisozaur, would Ubuntu run on ext4?
[19:48] <janisozaur> not quite yet
[19:48] <janisozaur> otacon1221: 9.04 defaults to ext4 i think
[19:48] <Bash_> What are the advantages of ext4 vs ext3?
[19:48] <janisozaur> otacon1221: 9.10 surely will
[19:48] <AaronT1> otacon1221: ubuntu does work on ext4
[19:48] <moustafaza> mechtech, I can't do that. The error I pasted comes out when I use sudo
[19:48] <otacon1221> Ubuntu 9.04 defaults to ext3
[19:48] <janisozaur> Bash_: if you want to use ext2ifs or other such project be warned
[19:49] <Bash_> janisozaur: What's their problem?
[19:49] <janisozaur> Bash_: you have to manually set inode size to 128
[19:49] <mechtech> moustafaza: when you sudo anything?
[19:49] <Bash_> With ext4
[19:49] <Bash_> ?
[19:49] <otacon1221> Aaron, would those specs be enough to run all those server services and still be able to provide maximum bandwidth?
[19:49] <moustafaza> mechtech, when I use sudo, to uninstall a program I write "sudo apt-get remove"
[19:49] <janisozaur> Bash_: ext4 had had some... issues...
[19:49] <fizzle> hey all, i'm having some trouble with getting my Belkin FD7050 v1000 wireless card working in Jaunty. specifically, i've installed the rt73 driver but my wireless connection doesn't show up after "ifconfig -a"
[19:49] <Bash_> :P
[19:49] <janisozaur> Bash_: it used to corrupt your data
[19:49] <vital_> moustafaza, try "su" then "apt-get remove ..."
[19:49] <Bash_> So, I'll just pick ext3
[19:50] <Bash_> I don't need anything fancy really... Just something to store some music and TV shows mainly
[19:50] <moustafaza> vital_, same error
[19:50] <janisozaur> Bash_: it's best option for interop
[19:50] <Bash_> Will backup some photos there etc
[19:50] <AaronT1> otacon1221: i dont know, id ask someone else, but it should be enough,
[19:50] <vital_> moustafaza, you can run system in single user mode
[19:50] <Bash_> Mainly will be using it on OSX and linux
[19:50] <Bash_> So ext3, here I go (:
[19:51] <janisozaur> Bash_: i use ext2ifs on windows, dont know what kind of support for ext file systems you can get on mac
[19:51] <moustafaza> vital_, I don't get you.
[19:51] <Bash_> I'd guess quite ok
[19:51] <Bash_> But, we'll see soon
[19:51] <AaronT1> otacon1221: i'm on ubuntu 9.04 with ext4
[19:51] <fiber_cut> Is there anyway to take a media file such as a *.flv and turn it into your screen saver? Under KDE there was a program kdesktop I think that used to let you do it but was wonder if anything under gnome
[19:51] <moustafaza> vital_, I get an error when ever I use sudo or su
[19:51] <moustafaza> vital_, same one.
[19:51] <vital_> moustafaza, you can try reboot and take single user mode from the grub menu
[19:51] <janisozaur> Bash_: though starting with 8.10 inode size has been changed to 256 which introduces incompatibilities with readers for other OS'
[19:52] <Gruppe4> HEy
[19:52] <Gruppe4> sker her noget ??
[19:52] <moustafaza> vital_, i'll check it out. thanks
[19:52] <vital_> moustafaza, it can be named "recovery mode"
[19:52] <moustafaza> vital_, ah, ok
[19:52] <mechtech> moustafaza: yes: sudo apt-get remove <application name> to uninstall
[19:53] <janisozaur> Gruppe4: only english here, to learn what channel uses your language type "!" and your countro iso code, e.g. !pl
[19:53] <moustafaza> mechtech, the sudo command doesn't work it gives me an error whenever i try to use it
[19:53] <om26er> can any 1 help me i dont have xorg.conf file
[19:54] <AaronT1> otacon1221: (http://files.getdropbox.com/u/975026/Screenshot.png) ubuntu 9.04 on ext4
[19:54] <vital_> !ru
[19:54] <om26er>  xorg-xserver is not installed
[19:55] <mechtech> moustafaza: I think you might have hosed your authentication abilities when you removed all your PAM files...specifically /etc/pam.conf
[19:56] <moustafaza> mechtech, ya I did that but after I removed all the PAM packages.
[19:56] <mechtech> moustafaza: see here: http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/libs/pam/Linux-PAM-html/sag-introduction.html
[19:56] <fizzle> i'm having some trouble with getting my Belkin FD7050 v1000 wireless card working in Jaunty. specifically, i've installed the rt73 driver but my wireless connection doesn't show up after "ifconfig -a"
[19:56] <ubuntizer> ex-chat
[19:56] <moustafaza> mechtech, i'm hecking it
[19:57] <otacon1221> Aaron, when an ISP says "Data Only" what exactly do they mean?
[19:57] <mechtech> ok
[19:58] <helo> otacon1221: no voice?
[19:58] <outy> how do i open my sources.list ?
[19:58] <otacon1221> helo, I'm looking at getting internet through T-Mobile, but their Internet Only plans are data only
[19:58] <moustafaza> mechtech, I don't have a backup so I'm locked :s.
[19:58] <BellinXFelon> can someonoe help with this. My desktop says on it in kubuntu that "the process for the desktop protocol died unexpectedly."
[19:59] <vital_> outy, gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[19:59] <helo> outy: python -c 'f = open("/etc/apt/sources.list")'
[19:59] <ltcabral> how do i check what is my ssh server hostname?
[19:59] <mechtech> moustafaza: I'm sorry...i don't know how to help with this further
[19:59] <WindowsUser> otacon1221: so? the internet is data, so internet only would be data only, wheres the beef?
[19:59] <sigmonsays> Hello. I am fighting ubuntu scripts cause it thinks it knows what it's doing. Can I disable NetworkManager nicely?
[19:59] <pepperjack> otacon1221: if you search ubuntuforums.org for tmobile and your phone model you will probably find a walkthrough for it from someone that has gotten it working
[19:59] <moustafaza> mechtech, np
[19:59] <daveletourneau> otacon1221: Data only is what you need.
[20:00] <WindowsUser> sigmonsays: uninstall it from synaptic or try like apt-get remove NetworkManager
[20:00] <pepperjack> ltcabral: hostname command once ssh'd in
[20:00] <silentmind> hi all. I'd like to launch GVim with some command line parameters. I can do that when creating the lanuch but is there any way I can make that command appear in the 'open with' list?
[20:01] <craigwell> i just put ubuntu 9.04 in dual boot with my laptop (HP nr3610)
[20:01] <craigwell> it has a centrino processor,
[20:01] <pepperjack> sigmonsays: sudo update-rc.d -f scriptname remove  you can then add it back with a similar command
[20:01] <saml> how can I find open ports and programmings listening to them?
[20:01] <craigwell> which uses stepped processor speeds under xp
[20:01] <pepperjack> sigmonsays: or just sudo chmod -x /etc/init.d/scriptname   and then +x to make it executable again
[20:01] <craigwell> is there an equivalent for ubuntu or is it already controlled dynamically by OS >?
[20:02] <WindowsUser> saml: look at nmap.org
[20:02] <saml> can i do it with netstat?
[20:02] <vital_> samitheberber, "sudo netstat -ap"
[20:02] <saml> thanks vital_
[20:02] <meteor``> i installed a software bt i cant find it anywhere
[20:02] <WindowsUser> netstat tells you whats open on the local computer, nmap is for other computers
[20:03] <pepperjack> meteor``: what app?
[20:03] <meteor``> where r the softwares installed
[20:03] <Youm> hey guys
[20:03] <Youm> I need your help
[20:03] <meteor``> trix
[20:03] <meteor``> Trix lan chat.
[20:03] <pepperjack> meteor``: the exe is installed to shared bin directories.  the libs are installed to shared lib directories the config files... etc
[20:03] <Youm> what this command does: iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 3127 -j DROP
[20:04] <otacon1221> The terms of the Internet Only data plan basically states I can use the internet only plan for web browsing, messaging, and similar activities but not for something that requires a continuous connection like P2P or web camera broadcasts
[20:04] <AaronT1> bye people
[20:04] <craigwell> is there an ubuntu equivalent for centrino speed stepping utilities as found in xp ?
[20:04] <Server_Side> how can i extract rar files on ubuntu?
[20:04] <mechtech> Server_Side: unrar
[20:04] <pepperjack> meteor``: it should ideally show up in the menu... try from a terminal:  pkill gnome-panel   the panel should then respawn. if it still doesnt show up try launching it from the terminal  typing trix  or Trix and hitting tab key to auto complete
[20:04] <pepperjack> !rar | Server_Side
[20:05] <pepperjack> Server_Side: basically sudo apt-get install unrar; unrar e file.rar or unrar e *.r00 for multipart files
[20:05] <otacon1221> Would chat rooms and VoIP fall under the acceptable use side of the terms?
[20:05] <maximumbob> I have two ubuntu partitions on the same machine. I want to make one so that it can't be mounted on the other, or at least be able to only be mounted read-only. But are there any measures I can do to 'hide' the partition, or at least require some trickery to get it mounted?
[20:05] <Server_Side> pepperjack: isnt it gui?
[20:06] <maximumbob> Forgot a sentence: "I know it's not possible without encryption to totally prevent it, but..."
[20:06] <pepperjack> Server_Side: yes the archive manager or whatever gui tool gnome uses once you install unrar should automatically support it too. so just double-click id think
[20:06] <daveletourneau> otacon1221: Ok, but thats the term of service. That doesn't mean that they technically prevent you of doing so. VOIP is probably one of the thing they really dont want :)
[20:06] <iceroot> maximumbob: no, only with encryption
[20:06] <Pici> otacon1221: You should ask your provider, this isn't really an Ubuntu question.
[20:07] <daveletourneau> otacon1221: not a technical question. Ask your provider
[20:07] <daveletourneau> otacon1221: but don't bother talking about VOIP ;)
[20:08] <daveletourneau> otacon1221: It will cost you a lot more to use VoIP (unless it's for inl calls
[20:08] <Pici> !offtopic
[20:08] <daveletourneau> otacon1221: intl. calls
[20:08] <otacon1221> dave, ok, here's a technical question...If I'm just using the computer for web browsing and the occasional download, would I go anywhere near 5GB/month data transfer?
[20:09] <otacon1221> I use the computer mainly for chat, web browsing, and the occasional download
[20:09] <Pici> otacon1221: This channel is only for Ubuntu support and since it is busy we ask that you take other topics elsewhere.  If you want to discuss something like that you're free to do it in #ubuntu-offtopic.
[20:10] <sachael> what is the default torrent client in the recent Ubuntus?
[20:10] <SteveHill> What is the current rev for Jaunty?  I'm still running jaunty at -11, and I don't know how to get the update.
[20:10] <antareus> is it possible to make a .deb file that contains other .deb files? the reason is no net access is available for the dependencies.
[20:10] <mechtech> sachael: transmission
[20:10] <antareus> i'm trying to make a double click installer
[20:10] <wrektjet> small question about unzipping... i have a 15 zip archive and when i extract it with archive manger it creates 15 seperate folders. how do i get them all to be together?
[20:11] <WTHsnoopddrm> hello everyone. I have my firefox issue again: when i type firefox in terminal, the output error is this: Inconsistency detected by ld.so: ../sysdeps/x86_64/dl-machine.h: 458: elf_machine_rela_relative: Assertion `((reloc->r_info) & 0xffffffff) == 8' failed!
[20:11] <ltgg> anyone familiar with XSane image scanner? ... have odd problem ... trying to scan and save multipage .PDF but pages are saved in multiple .PNM files .... whatsup???
[20:11] <WTHsnoopddrm> can anyone help me resolve this?
[20:11] <SteveHill> wrektjet: Create a new folder w/ archive mgr, then extract into that.
[20:12] <Pici> SteveHill: What package are you referring to that is at -11? The kernel?
[20:12] <SteveHill> Yes, I think that it is kernel...-11.
[20:12] <Pici> SteveHill: Well, where are you seeing -11?
[20:13] <WTHsnoopddrm> hello everyone, my firefox browser does not start in ubuntu. the error ouput in terminal is "Inconsistency detected by ld.so: ../sysdeps/x86_64/dl-machine.h: 458: elf_machine_rela_relative: Assertion `((reloc->r_info) & 0xffffffff) == 8' failed!" can anyone help me with this? sorry, i'm a noob at ubuntu!
[20:13] <sigmonsays> thanks WindowsUser
[20:14] <SteveHill> Pici: It is in vmlinuz-2.6.28-11-generic
[20:14] <wrektjet> SteveHill, do i need to extract each zip by itself
[20:14] <erythrocyte> i need to pipe the output of tar into mkisofs to generate an iso image without an intermediary .tar file...how do i do it?
[20:15] <SteveHill> wrektjet: You chouldn't have to.  Create the folder, then extract into it.
[20:15] <Nameless_au> has anyone here ever installed moodle?
[20:16] <wrektjet> SteveHill, select one file/ all files? i tried doing all (opening with archive manager) and they all opened and i tried one and only that one extracted.
[20:17] <SteveHill> erythrocyte: I can't give it all to you, but the trick is to tar it to file "-" (no quotes) and then pipe it to mkisofs.  The - sends it to stdout, I believe.
[20:17] <Pici> SteveHill: Looks like you're missing at least the jaunty-updates repository.  If you enable that and then do a dist-upgrade (or just do a dist-upgrade if you already have it enabled) and you should update to -13
[20:17] <tvuser> hi, can someone help me setting joypad?
[20:17] <meteor``> pepperjack, cant find the software.
[20:18] <WTHsnoopddrm> hello everyone, my firefox browser does not start in ubuntu. the error ouput in terminal is "Inconsistency detected by ld.so: ../sysdeps/x86_64/dl-machine.h: 458: elf_machine_rela_relative: Assertion `((reloc->r_info) & 0xffffffff) == 8' failed!" can anyone help me with this? sorry, i'm a noob at ubuntu!
[20:18] <meteor``> I installed a software and now I cant find it anywhere, it's not in the applications.
[20:18] <meteor``> Where can i find it?
[20:18] <SteveHill> wrektjet: You may have to select all of the buried files, and then extract.  Play with it.
[20:18] <erythrocyte> SteveHill: thanks..is there a way for me to use 7z instead of tar? i'd love the compression ...i know using 7z with the -so flag sends it to standard output, but the question is how do i pipe this into mkisofs
[20:19] <ltgg> anyone familiar with XSane image scanner? ... have odd problem ... trying to scan and save multipage .PDF but pages are saved in multiple .PNM files .... whatsup???
[20:19] <pluxii> Question, I keep setting up dual monitors, using my nvidia driver settings, and each time i reboot i have to do it all over.  does anyone know how to make this fix so that i have dual when i boot up
[20:19] <WTHsnoopddrm> now when i try it, the error is segmentation fault.
[20:19] <WTHsnoopddrm> can anyone help me please?
[20:19] <wrektjet> SteveHill, yea ok. i hope i dont have to deal with zipped files in the future much bec ive been fiddling around for a long while. mayebtheres a script or soemthing out there
[20:20] <SteveHill> erythrocyte: Not sure about 7z.  But it ought to work the same: 7z -so ... | mkisofs
[20:20] <meteor``> I installed a software and now I cant find it anywhere, it's not in the applications. Where can I find it?
[20:20] <jiohdi> meteor, did you try bin?
[20:20] <meteor``> Yes I did.
[20:21] <ZykoticK9> pluxii, run the Nvidia config with sudo then use the "save to xorg" button.
[20:21] <meteor``> There is nothing like 'Trix' thr.
[20:21] <jiohdi> did you use ctrl-h?
[20:21] <pluxii> ZykoticK9: thanks much man
[20:21] <SteveHill> wrektjet: As my wife asks, "How'd you get so smart" and I answer lots and lots of errors.  Learn from the mistakes.  If it isn't something that you'll do often, make your own scrip, or leave yourself a note.
[20:21] <genii> meteor``: Usually in places like /usr/bin /usr/sbin     and so on. If from source sometimes the path gets to be like /usr/local/bin or /usr/local/sbin
[20:22] <pepperjack> meteor``: one sec im compiling it
[20:22] <pepperjack> meteor``: or wait you just want the path to the executable right?
[20:22] <fiver22> could anyone tell me how to play radio stream intended for WMP in Rhythmbox?
[20:22] <bool> hi there, does anyone know an easy way to find out whether a scanned page is red? (commandline)
[20:23] <meteor``> yes pepper.
[20:23] <WTHsnoopddrm> hello everyone, my firefox browser does not start in ubuntu. the error ouput in terminal is "Inconsistency detected by ld.so: ../sysdeps/x86_64/dl-machine.h: 458: elf_machine_rela_relative: Assertion `((reloc->r_info) & 0xffffffff) == 8' failed!" can anyone help me with this? sorry, i'm a noob at ubuntu!
[20:24] <SteveHill> meteor``: Usually it gets stored in /usr/bin. /usr/sbin or /usr/local/bin.
[20:24] <WTHsnoopddrm> now it says "segmentation fault"
[20:24] <erythrocyte> SteveHill: tar -vfc sampledir/ - | mkisofs -r -o cdimage ? is this correct?
[20:24] <pepperjack> meteor``: the executable name is just trix. open a terminal and type 'trix'
[20:24] <bountin> hello - i would like to use a small PC (HTPC) for television and for work - is it possible that ubuntu uses the grafic card in this way, that one screen is for TV with a TV UI and useable per IR and the other screen is a "common" ubuntu for work?
[20:24] <pepperjack> meteor``: which trix   <--- would tell you the actual path to the exe
[20:24] <saml> http://codepad.org/bk0tAeED  how come there are so many proccesses of same "java -jar hudson.war" ?
[20:24] <pepperjack> meteor``: should be in /usr/bin
[20:25] <Jlone> anyone here install liferay on their box by any chance?
[20:25] <meteor``> wait let me check.
[20:27] <bountin> !de
[20:27] <SteveHill> erythrocyte: Without looking at the man page for tar, it looks correct.  I can't remember if your tarball would contain sampledir/* or just *.   There is an option to make it do whichever you want.
[20:27] <pepperjack> bountin: yes this is possible.  i would suggest though you consider using a dedicated box for your tv.  for instance popcornhour is a great little product for HD video
[20:27] <meteor``> OK, its running.
[20:27] <xerebz> is this ubuntu help?
[20:27] <jrib> xerebz: yes
[20:28] <sinelaw> for anyone how has problems with ATI radeon:
[20:28] <sinelaw> http://tan-com.com/posts/technology/fix-ubuntu-904-ati-driver-issue
[20:28] <sinelaw> helped me :)
[20:28] <pepperjack> bountin: its more efficient due to power usage but very doable to setup an htpc. i just prefer a dedicated solution at the tv and then a regular computer backend connected to the frontend tv via network
[20:28] <saml> i can hit localhost:8080 but somehow, netstat -l|grep 8080 is empty
[20:29] <xerebz> can i ask why someone would use fedora over ubuntu?
[20:29] <SteveHill> meteor``: Also, run updatedb as root, then you can use locate to find any file on you (attached, too) system.
[20:29] <jrib> xerebz: try #ubuntu-offtopic for that discussion please
[20:29] <pepperjack> meteor``: guess you might need to create your own shortcut or launcher for it
[20:29] <meteor``> thanx both of you
[20:30] <SteveHill> xerebz: It's a religious issue.
[20:33] <mbrady76> I'm a new ubuntu user (old school EE guy). I am looking to install virtualization software.  What do people recommend that runs well on Ubuntu?
[20:33] <ironfoot_495> hello all I'm looking for some help with using fopen with php. The error I get is failed to open stream: No such file or directory in /home/carter/public_html/processorder.php on line 47
[20:33] <nooop> hi there. what is the default display for X on ubuntu?
[20:34] <mbeierl> mbrady76: virtualbox is fairly stable, but I'm a die-hard vmware user
[20:34] <pepperjack> ironfoot_495: hi.  i dont think youll have much luck here with that one.  id suggest /join #php
[20:35] <ironfoot_495>  pepperjack: ok thanks
[20:35] <erythrocyte> SteveHill: okey doke..thanks
[20:35] <pepperjack> nooop: not sure i understand the question. you mean the tty?  f7 or whatever?
[20:36] <nooop> i needed the display code to run metacity again.
[20:36] <nooop> to run metacity -d display
[20:36] <pepperjack> nooop: so you need to know $DISPLAY?  normally its 0:0 i think
[20:36] <nooop> okay. ill try. thank you :)
[20:36] <unkuiri> hi all
[20:37] <LordLandon> nooop: $ DISPLAY=:0.0 metacity --replace
[20:37] <pepperjack> nooop: oops yeah :0.0 rather
[20:37] <unkuiri> need help with netmonitor screenlet, can someone help me?
[20:38] <nooop> lemme see
[20:38] <unkuiri> need help with netmonitor screenlet, can someone please help me?
[20:41] <xiong> i attempt to delete an empty folder in evolution -- the error is 'cannot delete folder "adeleteme"' -- what is the solution?
[20:41] <tvuser> hi, can someone help me setting joypad?
[20:45] <maximumbob> My comp already had a windows and ubuntu partition, as well as ubuntu's /boot. I installed another instance of ubuntu using the option to resize the other ubuntu partition in the installer. However, now my system boots into the new partition rather than to the first install's /boot partition.
[20:45] <bullgard4> "~$ cat /proc/asound/oss/sndstat; Sound Driver: 3.8.1a-980706(ALSA v1.0.18rc3 emulation code); Installed drivers: Type 10: ALSA emulation, Card config: ALI 5451 at 0x8800, irq11; Audio devices: 0: ALI 5451 (DUPLEX); Mixers:0: Realtek ALC202 rev0". What is the functionality of ALI 5451, and what is the functionality of Realtek AL202 in this computer?
[20:45] <maximumbob> I added to my old /boot/grub/menu.lst the new install, but how do I safely make it boot to the boot partition?
[20:46] <xacxac> как
[20:46] <xacxac> По русски можно туту?
[20:46] <erUSUL> !ru
[20:47] <maximumbob> привет. я не говою по-русски
[20:48] <maximumbob> so much joining/leaving noise, questions get eaten by the top of the screen unnaturally quickly
[20:50] <atthelake> \join byleco
[20:50] <Antisthenes> There are a lot of times that my Ubuntu 9.04 freezes. Only the mouse is able to move but it cannot interact with the desktop. This happens usually for various reasons, like at a site with a lot o flash,  when I try open pidgin or when I choose some options on GIMP. Does anybody knows what's the matter?
[20:50] <Sebboh> Hi. I've got a semi-broken Karmic system.. I got it booted to console with an old kernel, but X doesn't work. How do I connect to wifi from the console?
[20:51] <Myrtti> !karmic
[20:51] <maximumbob> I added to my old /boot/grub/menu.lst the new install, but how do I safely make it boot to the boot partition?
[20:51] <maximumbob> oops wrong part ignore
[20:51] <JenniferB> I have a screen session that is runnin an application and I can switch to the that screen but can't stop the application as I usually can with ctrl+c .. what am I missing?
[20:51] <janisozaur> JenniferB: screen probably captures that
[20:53] <Sebboh> JenniferB, doesn't sound like a screen issue; screen doesn't capture ctrl+c.  Oh, maybe you mashed XOFF before... check the screen help for the XON/XOFF keys..  I think it's ctrl+a,a and ctrl+a,q.
[20:53] <maximumbob> My comp already had a windows and ubuntu partition, as well as ubuntu's /boot. I installed another instance of ubuntu using the option to resize the other ubuntu partition in the installer. However, now my system boots into the new partition rather than to the first install's /boot partition. I added to my old /boot/grub/menu.lst the new install, but how do I safely make it boot to the boot partition?
[20:54] <ctmjr> Sebboh: there is a karmic channel #ubuntu+1 i believe
[20:54] <trashbarg> maximumbob, you have to add your old section to the mew file
[20:54] <trashbarg> *new
[20:54] <maximumbob> trashbarg: So I can't boot to my boot partition any more?
[20:54] <parsimoniae> Sebboh: ifconfig wlan0 up, iwlist wlan0 scan, iwconfig wlan0 essid "Essid"
[20:54] <JenniferB> I killed it somehow.. not sure how exactly .. perhaps it was ctrl + q
[20:55] <maximumbob> But I'll have to add a root: directive, won't I? Since the other kernels are on a separate partition?
[20:55] <Sebboh> ctmjr, yeah asking there now. Although, I suppose that my question isn't -- ah, parsimoniae, thanks.
[20:55] <maximumbob> JenniferB: you might have hit ctrl+s? That stops everything on that terminal and ctrl+q releases.
[20:56] <Sebboh> JenniferB, yeah, what maximumbob said, but remember with screen that you might have to use ctrl+a,s and ctrl+a,q rather than just ctrl+s and ctrl+q.
[20:56] <Sebboh> (I think.)
[20:58] <trashbarg> maximumbot, as the ubuntu installer re-installed grub, grub is now using the configuration file on the new partition. so if you want to add your old partition to the boot selection, you have to add the old section to the new file on your new partition
[20:58] <maximumbob> If so, do I have to add root: directives?
[20:59] <achilles> hello, I have a shell script that must search for a keyword in a configuration file and replace the follower ?
[20:59] <Sebboh> paigeadele, ifconfig complains that I don't have a wlan0 device. But, lspci does show my wireless device. Now what?
[20:59] <YoG> hi, can anyone help me setting up joypad?
[21:00]  * maximumbob thinks Guest87038 is running an irc client as root?
[21:00] <pepperjack> Sebboh: may seem obvious but make sure if you have a switch or button on the lappy that the 'antenna' button is on
[21:00] <Sebboh> pepperjack, desktop.
[21:00] <Halitech> Sebboh, what kind of wireless card?
[21:01] <Sebboh> Halitech, lspci reports a broadcom "airforce one 54g".
[21:01] <Halitech> Sebboh, did you install the Broadcom drivers for it?
[21:01] <bruenig> mgroman: WAT UP!
[21:01] <frgtr> my sound playback does not work. what can i do
[21:02] <frgtr> rebooting seems to fix it
[21:02] <frgtr> but i refuse to reboot right now. what module should i reload
[21:02] <Halitech> frgtr, sudo /etc/init.d/asla restart might work
[21:03] <Sebboh> Halitech, nope. I have another wireless card, I'll pop that in and see if it's supported out of box. I don't have any internet access other than wifi, so, getting the right drivers will be problematic.
[21:03] <mphill> frgtr: sudo alsa force-reload
[21:03] <Halitech> frgtr, alsa not asla
[21:03] <bruenig> daedhel: hm
[21:03] <daedhel> bruenig: oh hai
[21:03] <frgtr> hld on!
[21:03] <Halitech> Sebboh, ok
[21:03] <daedhel> bruenig: u having some trouble or something ?
[21:03] <frgtr> YEAH THAT DID IT
[21:04] <frgtr> ;)
[21:04] <maximumbob> trashbarg: Can I just add a root: (hd0, #) directive for the ones I'm adding to my new menu.lst?
[21:04] <user__> ce iubesti?
[21:04] <bruenig> daedhel: not with ubuntu, maybe with microsucks ass windblows
[21:04] <bruenig> daedhel: you feel me
[21:04] <daedhel> yeah
[21:05] <Joe-needs-help> hi guys, i am wondering is it possible to make my laptop an external hdd through my wifi connection?
[21:05] <Joe-needs-help> P.S i dont want to buy anything !
[21:05] <igitur1> Hi. I setup a wireless network with internet connection sharing. Where can I see the logs of the devices which uses the ICS?
[21:05] <bruenig> !nfs | Joe-needs-help
[21:05] <Naruto_pr0> hi, how can i add a programme to programmes that dosn't need sudo to run as root???
[21:06] <trashbarg> maximumbob, i cant help you with that, as i dont use ubuntu or grub at the moment, but the menu.lst should be self explaining.
[21:06] <daedhel> Naruto_pr0: you cant
[21:06] <maximumbob> trashbarg: I'm trying it. I added my old entries with an added 'root (hd0,1)' which seems logical, rebooting now
[21:06] <bruenig> Naruto_pr0: explain again
[21:07] <maximumbob> trashbarg: worked! thanks for reply
[21:07] <matreya6> I want a homepartitiion with a filesystem that stores both the creation date and the last edited date. Which filesystem should I use?
[21:07] <trashbarg> maximumbob, glad it worked
[21:08] <Naruto_pr0> well, sudo wvdial well run wvdial as root : can i do some thing to run it as root without sudo ??
[21:08] <novato_br> look that http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/07/28/linux-foundation-launches-branded-credit-card-yes-it-features-tux/
[21:08] <maximumbob> it's silly that the installer didn't fix that. It's very convenient to resize and install, but that would have been a damning breakage for a newbie
[21:08] <bruenig> Naruto_pr0: you can be root and run programs as root
[21:08] <bruenig> Naruto_pr0: otherwise no
[21:09] <ubuntu-usr>  i think that i installed nvidia driver in ubuntu but i`m not sure is everything fine. how to check it?
[21:09] <bruenig> Naruto_pr0: you can set it up to where when you use sudo on that application, it doesn't prompt you for a password
[21:09] <daedhel> Naruto_pr0: try "sudo su"
[21:09] <MT-> How do I figure out what the name of a window is?
[21:10] <bruenig> daedhel: SUDO -S ACTUALLY
[21:10] <daedhel> MT-: xprop
[21:10] <Naruto_pr0> thank you..
[21:10] <Joe-needs-help> Hi how do i make my laptop an external hdd over wifi ?
[21:10] <trashbarg> ubuntu-usr, type glxinfo | grep direct
[21:10] <MT-> daedhel: thanks :)
[21:10] <daedhel> MT-: you start xprop, and click the app you wanna know
[21:10] <daedhel> MT-: np
[21:10] <Joe-needs-help> Hi how do i make my laptop an external hdd over wifi ?
[21:11] <bruenig> Joe-needs-help: NFS I just linked you
[21:11] <daedhel> bruenig: lol didn't know that
[21:11] <q0_0p> Joe-needs-help, setup samba
[21:11] <ubuntu-usr> trashbarg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/235404/
[21:11] <Joe-needs-help> bruenig- i dont understand any of the NFS
[21:11] <bruenig> Joe-needs-help: well read it more closely, that is what you are looking for
[21:12] <saml> how can I find out which package i need to install to have libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 ?
[21:12] <Joe-needs-help> bruenig- cogain please ill have a close look and tell you where i get
[21:12] <bruenig> !apt-file | saml
[21:12] <saml> bruenig, thank you
[21:12] <trashbarg> ubuntu-usr, how did you installed the driver?
[21:13] <ubuntu-usr> manually
[21:13] <sailingboarder> are there any packages that come with ubuntu desktop, but not server, that have wireless drivers?
[21:13] <ubuntu-usr> using nvidia installer
[21:14] <nonsleep_> use ndiswrapper
[21:14] <jiohdi> sailing, my wireless laptop worked just fine with ubuntu
[21:14] <max1> hello
[21:14] <Myrtti> sailingboarder: might be that linux-restricted-modules-common doesn't come with server one
[21:14] <sailingboarder> my laptop worked fine before when it had desktop installed(back in the dapper days), but i just installed server and wireless does not work
[21:14] <yamishi> hi all
[21:14] <trashbarg> ubuntu-usr, ubuntu provides a simple graphical tool to install the driver, its recommend to use it. you have to execute nvidia-xconfig as root if you are using the official installer.
[21:15] <yamishi> can someone help me a little with gnump3d configuration?
[21:15] <ubuntu-usr> trashbarg: i haven`t it
[21:16] <ubuntu-usr> trashbarg: i couldn`t find it using synaptic
[21:16] <daedhel> Joe-needs-help: search for samba
[21:17] <Joe-needs-help> is it possible to make a laptop an external hdd via wifi? if so how ?
[21:17] <trashbarg> ubuntu-usr, if you installed the official driver (NVIDIA-blahblah.run), and anything worked fine, you will have this tool already installed. just type sudo nvidia-xconfig
[21:17] <TigerCR1200> I am trying to make an audio cd from MP3s using Brasero. When I try to select a MP3 it tells me ""mp3 file name" is not suitable for audio or video media." Any ideas why?
[21:17] <ubuntu-usr> trashbarg: sudo: nvidia-xconfig: command not found
[21:18] <trashbarg> ubuntu-usr, so it seems the driver is not installed.
[21:18] <trashbarg> !nvidia
[21:18] <ubuntu-usr> trashbarg: strange but installer finished successfully
[21:19] <Joe-needs-help> TigerCR1200- what file name are you putting ?
[21:19] <sailingboarder> using cli, how can i find my wireless card?
[21:19] <cysn0rk> hi, I've tried to install ubuntu-server from an usb-stick to my server which has no cd-rom drive - it's booting up and I'm able to start the installation, but before it starts copying the files it says no cd-rom drive found and stops the installation. anyone got an idea?
[21:19] <sailingboarder> lspci doesn't find it
[21:19] <trashbarg> maybe its the wrong name, whats telling the shell if you type nv and press tab?
[21:19] <cysn0rk> its ubuntu server 8.04 btw
[21:19] <Joe-needs-help> TigerCR1200 - what filename are you putting ?
[21:20] <ubuntu-usr> trashbarg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/235410/
[21:20] <TigerCR1200> Joe-needs-help, "01-tito_el_bambino-el_amor.mp3"
[21:20] <ubuntu-usr> it's xorg file
[21:21] <trashbarg> ubuntu-usr, its the standard xorg.conf, its not set up for the nvidia driver
[21:21] <Joe-needs-help> TigerCR1200 - without the quotes obviously, try taking out the underscores and dashes (_-) i know this seems pretty weird but try it and tell me how it goes...
[21:21] <TigerCR1200> ok hang tight
[21:21] <trashbarg> ubuntu-usr, you may just look at System->Administration->Hardwre Drivers
[21:21] <ubuntu-usr> nop
[21:22] <ubuntu-usr> too old card
[21:22] <MT-> !info terminator
[21:22] <Joe-needs-help> TigerCR1200 - rename it with something that you would recognise it by
[21:22] <DaffyDuck_> Could someone with a working wlan0 (using dhcp), which is manually configured with /etc/network/interfaces, pastebin their interfaces-file? I can't figure out the file's syntax. (PS. Remember to remove your key first!)
[21:22] <ubuntu-usr> it`s log http://paste.ubuntu.com/235411/
[21:23] <trashbarg> ubuntu-usr, try to install nvidia-glx-legacy via synaptic or apt-get
[21:23] <TigerCR1200> Joe-needs-help, same result with file name "01.mp3"
[21:23] <jiohdi> is there any reason to use kde over gnome in ubuntu?
[21:23] <veggteppe> Anyone that knows why my mic wont work?
[21:23] <sailingboarder> what commands are there to detect a wireless card?
[21:24] <Joe-needs-help> veggteppe - what mic is it ? like usb or just a simple mic ?
[21:24] <jra> sailingboarder: lspci / iwconfig
[21:24] <veggteppe> Got the brand new steelseries one. Like, not usb, but a plug xD
[21:24] <Joe-needs-help> TigerCR1200 - try calling it something with just letters for example "filename.mp3"
[21:24] <jra> ...or lsusb, if it's a stick
[21:25] <danbhfive> jiohdi: I believe they are fairly different.  The choice is personal preference though
[21:25] <Joe-needs-help> veggteppe - it may not be compatible google your mic's name and then see if its compatible
[21:25] <TigerCR1200> Joe-needs-help, simpletext.mp3 fails same way
[21:26] <Joe-needs-help> TigerCR1200 - hmm.. not sure what to suggest give me a minute
[21:26] <trayzz> hello world
[21:26] <veggteppe> Can't seem to find any answers to it. But isn't it some sort of code i can type in to fix it or somet? xD
[21:26] <mechtech> is there  a torrent server?
[21:26] <mechtech> torrent topic
[21:27] <dbugger> Hi guys!
[21:27] <danbhfive> !torrent | mechtech
[21:27] <TigerCR1200> Joe-needs-help, fyi I can play the mp3 its not a codec issue that I have been able to find out.
[21:27] <mechtech> !hi | dbugger
[21:27] <syntax> sup mec
[21:27] <danbhfive> mechtech: oops, guess that doesnt have it listed
[21:27] <Kasuko> fixed it
[21:28] <mechtech> danbhfive: I was confused too. LOL
[21:28] <danbhfive> !torrents | mechtech
[21:28] <pepperjack> veggteppe: first thing to check is just the mute and volume levels.  so you can do this in the gui but just open a terminal and type alsamixer
[21:28] <trayzz> is there anyone who got some time to help me fix my autostart?
[21:28] <mechtech> syntax: hey
[21:28] <trayzz> i kinda messed it up a little
[21:28] <veggteppe> did alsamixer earlyer, couldn't even see a mic tab =(
[21:28] <Joe-needs-help> TigerCR1200 - remind me, are you trying to burn the files to a cd ?
[21:28] <TigerCR1200> yes
[21:29] <Trijntje> trayzz: If you tell what you problem is, people will know if they can help you
[21:29] <pepperjack> veggteppe: open it once more and hit like f4 to go to 'capture' if you look along the top in alsamixer there is a playback, capture and all page you can navigate to
[21:30] <Joe-needs-help> TigerCR1200 - okay, in a terminal type sudo apt-get install k3b
[21:30] <trayzz> Trijntje: i got some progs that startup (skype, pidgin, yakuake rolled out, nautilus) but aren't listed in startup programs
[21:30] <veggteppe> pepperjack: All are on capture , or somet:P
[21:31] <trayzz> so i wanted to know if there's a different way of checking which programs are on autostart
[21:31] <TigerCR1200> haha Joe-needs-help what are the dependencies on k3b? Its qt based right? Thats alot of install for a burner. Hang on I am checking something.
[21:31] <Trijntje> trayzz: these programs start when you login but you didnt add them to autostart?
[21:31] <veggteppe> Pepperjack: Looking at "Input source [Mic]", and theres nothing there it seems.
[21:31] <Joe-needs-help> TigerCR1200 - k3b is another burning tool, its simple to use and can be found under apps
[21:31] <Joe-needs-help> TigerCR1200 - once installed of course ;) =P
[21:31] <trayzz> Trijntje: yep
[21:31] <veggteppe> All working. Thanks for help :)
[21:32] <TigerCR1200> Joe-needs-help, I know what it is
[21:32] <trayzz> Trijntje: i added a file to start conky with 10 seconds delay
[21:32] <Trijntje> trayzz: you should go to startup aplications, and then to 'options'. There is a box you can click on to remember all running applications when you shutdown
[21:32] <trayzz> which didnt work btw
[21:32] <Joe-needs-help> TigerCR1200 - ahh good sorry i couldnt help, what was your problem so if it happens to me i know how to avoid ;P
[21:32] <trayzz> Trijntje: that's it
[21:33] <trayzz> thanks a lot
[21:33] <trayzz> one more thing
[21:33] <Trijntje> trayzz: no problem. Did you make that program for conky executable?
[21:33] <TigerCR1200> Joe-needs-help, it was a codec issue after all. I was able to play the file but not burn it. I just had to install ubuntu-restricted-extras it is now going to attempt to burn with orginial file names.
[21:33] <trayzz> how do i do that?
[21:33] <YoG> hi, is the gameport broken in jaunty?
[21:33] <Ubuntufan--> hi guys i cannot copy files on an external drive what am i doing wrong?
[21:33] <trayzz> Trijntje: how do i do that?
[21:33] <Trijntje> trayzz: chmod 755 program
[21:33] <ubuntu-usr> trashbarg: it seems i will never install my card.instalation by synaptic or envy was failed, hardware manager can`t detect my card
[21:34] <Trijntje> trayzz: in a terminal that is ofc
[21:34] <ubuntu-usr> trashbarg: what i shoul do? my card is geforce 2 pro
[21:34] <trayzz> Trijntje: ok one sec
[21:34] <Ubuntufan--> hi guys i cannot copy files on an external drive what am i doing wrong?
[21:34] <Joe-needs-help> TigerCR1200 - ahh okay, usually it is a codec issue at least its sorted now
[21:34] <Joe-needs-help> Ubuntufan - is your external hdd being reconized ?
[21:34] <Ubuntufan--> hi guys i cannot copy files on an external harddisc what am i doing wrong?
[21:35] <trashbarg> ubuntu-usr, at first you can try the drivers from the ubuntu repository by typing sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-legacy
[21:35] <Ubuntufan--> Joe-needs-help: yes
[21:35] <trashbarg> ubuntu-usr, this driver should work for your card
[21:35] <TigerCR1200> Joe-needs-help, I know first thing I tried was to try and play the file but it gave me noise
[21:35] <binarymutant> what channel would be best to ask about packages.ubuntu.com?
[21:35] <Joe-needs-help> Ubuntufan - so run me through whats happening your attempting to put files onto the hdd what happens ?
[21:36] <kermos> Ubuntufan--: So what's the error? what exactly is happening? Just saying 'I can't copy' is like telling me 'My car is broken' and expecting me to fix it without seeing it.
[21:36] <lilcoconut> hi everyone
[21:36] <Joe-needs-help> kermos - lol exactly what i said :p
[21:36] <lilcoconut> does ubuntu have an antivirus system??
[21:36] <ubuntu-usr> trashbarg: will not. the problem makes xserver
[21:37] <Joe-needs-help> lilcoconut - ubuntu does have antivirus system in add/remove but rarely will you get a virus
[21:37] <kermos> lilcoconut: there is clamav but unless you're like running a mail server for windows users, it's rather pointless
[21:37] <Trijntje> !antivirus|lilcoconut
[21:37] <Ubuntufan--> kermos: i formated the external harddisc and i formated it to ext3 but i cannot get the permission to copy files on it dont know why
[21:38] <arand> lilcoconut: Ubuntu without antivirus is, in practice, about as safe as windows _with_ good antivirus, if not safer
[21:38] <ubuntu-usr> trashbarg: xserver 1.6 in ubuntu 9.04 is not compatible with nvidia's legacy driver
[21:38] <riyazd> hi I'm new to ubuntu and can't seem to get my belkin wireless card working, FD8010 - any suggestions
[21:38] <trayzz> Trijntje: i created a file called .conky_start.sh containing the command "
[21:38] <trayzz> #!/bin/bash
[21:38] <trayzz> sleep 10 && conky;"
[21:38] <kermos> Ubuntufan--: sudo chown username:group -R /media/extdrive
[21:38] <kermos> where username obviously is your username
[21:38] <lilcoconut> so there isnt any antivirus program? and why dont i need any?
[21:38] <kermos> group obviously is the group your username is in (usually the same on a standard install as your username)
[21:39] <Ubuntufan--> kermos: ok thanks trying that
[21:39] <danbhfive> lilcoconut: there is info about that on the linked page
[21:39] <kermos> and /media/extdrive the path to your mounted drive
[21:39] <albano> Lol the virus maybe cannot find dependencies on your pc
[21:39] <jiohdi> lilcoconut, there is rootkit hunter
[21:39] <Trijntje> trayzz: i think that should work
[21:39] <Joe-needs-help> lilcoconut - there is an antivirus system but only if your transferring files from windows or downloading off illegal things but YOU DO NOT NEED ANTIVIRUS
[21:39] <trashbarg> ubuntu-usr, i cant check that as i dont use ubuntu, but if there is a package, it should be compatible?
[21:39] <jiohdi> which claims that it will get 99% of all problems
[21:40] <trayzz> Trijntje: should i add it to my startup apps as well?
[21:40] <Joe-needs-help> LILCOCONUT - YOUD HAVE TO BE STUPID TO GET A VIRUS ON UBUNTU
[21:40] <Joe-needs-help> sorry for caps btw
[21:40] <lilcoconut> oh ok.. lol..thx.. good to know that :D
[21:40] <Trijntje> trayzz: yes
[21:40] <lilcoconut> thx everyone.. bye
[21:40] <ubuntu-usr> how to downgrade xserver in ubuntu? the goal is to install legacy nvidia driver
[21:40] <jiohdi> there is a site claiming that viruses for linux are out there... but they are not as bad as windows
[21:41] <trayzz> Trijntje: is the command "/home/trayzz/.conky_start.sh" correct to start it up?
[21:41] <ubuntu-usr> trashbarg: which one package?
[21:42] <trashbarg> ubuntu-usr, can you list each nvidia packages?
[21:42] <Trijntje> trayzz: yes, or you can use ~/.conky_start.sh. ~ means /home/trayzz
[21:42] <JRSmile> good evening
[21:42] <Joe-needs-help> jiohdi - you can get viruses but you have to create them yourself and most viruses on windows are caused by stupid programs and with ubuntu all programs come from add/remove
[21:42] <trayzz> Trijntje: like this: "~/.conky_start.sh. ~" ?
[21:42] <trayzz> Trijntje: wait wait
[21:43] <nisstyre> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_malware#Threats
[21:43] <trayzz> Trijntje: i got it
[21:43] <ubuntu-usr> trashbarg:  yes but i don`t know commands very well
[21:43] <trayzz> Trijntje: i'll give it a shot, be right back
[21:43] <Trijntje> trayzz: ok, good
[21:43] <kermos> nisstyre: that is one huge list. I think windows has that many new threats introduced hourly.
[21:43] <aklaax> gg
[21:43] <Coobra> do fail2ban has a port or do it listen just to the service "ssh" ?
[21:44] <JRSmile> ubuntu is nice currently online via umts in a car sponsored by a samsung nc10 and live ubuntu...
[21:44] <mechtech> Joe-needs-help: what do you mean, you have to make viruses yourself?
[21:44] <Joe-needs-help> mechtech - you can create a virus yourself and then obviously distribute it
[21:44] <albano> virus maybe shoud know your pasw to be active. because is dificult to do things without root
[21:45] <nisstyre> the trick is getting people to execute code
[21:45] <Joe-needs-help> there are ways of creating viruses but you have to be a *beep* to do so
[21:45] <nisstyre> Don't execute code from people you don't trust
[21:45] <Tophu> if I'm running ubuntu 9.04 is it a bad idea to try to update my kernel to 2.6.30?
[21:45] <mechtech> joe-needs-help: I knew that, I thought you meant in order to get infected you would have to make one yourself =)
[21:45] <Purpley> hey guys
[21:45] <Coobra> is there a fail2ban dude/girl here
[21:45] <Purpley> Does anyone know of a program that scans proxies and makes sure they are anonymous
[21:46] <Joe-needs-help> mechtech - ahh i get you, yeah another way is like if i gave you a terminal code that was a virus not going to do it like because well im not a *beep*
[21:46] <mechtech> albano: I would think a virus like that would have the cpapbility of capturing your usernames and passwds and using them
[21:46] <Tophu> anyone here have a touchsmart tx2 or other n-trig equipped tablet?
[21:46] <aklaax> hello. How can find channels in spanish
[21:47] <aklaax> helpme please
[21:47] <mechtech> Joe-needs-help: I get you
[21:47] <Purpley> Does anyone know of a program that scans proxies and makes sure they are anonymous
[21:47] <mechtech> !spanish | aklaax
[21:47] <JRSmile> re
[21:47] <aklaax> gracias ubottu
[21:47] <XZc> Whats a good operating system to put on a old laptop with 128mb of ram?
[21:47] <Purpley> does anyone?
[21:47] <trashbarg> ubuntu-usr, how do you know its not compatible? you have to add the restricted repositories and search for nvidia (synaptic). I cant tell you how to do that, but the menus should be self explaining
[21:47] <safruhani> !iso
[21:47] <Purpley> DSL
[21:47] <JRSmile> linux
[21:48] <Purpley> Damn small linux
[21:48] <mechtech> XZc: tiny linux
[21:48] <trayzz> it didn't work
[21:48] <Purpley> argh
[21:48] <XZc> i heard puppy was good?
[21:48] <Purpley> someone answer my question!
[21:48] <Purpley> Does anyone know of a program that scans proxies and makes sure they are anonymous
[21:48] <Joe-needs-help> XZc - tiny linux and possibly xp H.E
[21:48] <mechtech> XZc: give it a try
[21:48] <trayzz> and skype, pidgin + nautlius are still opening even though i removed the check in startup apps
[21:48] <JRSmile> NO
[21:48] <xover> hey guys, i am trying to install 9.04 on a macbook pro and getting an error message "grub-install fatal error" whats the solution please?
[21:48] <Joe-needs-help> purpley - google it
[21:49] <mechtech> xover: what type of proc?
[21:49] <juvic> ei
[21:49] <Purpley> Joe-needs-help, dont you think i tried?
[21:49] <juvic> i havving a problem
[21:49] <XZc> thanks mechteck
[21:49] <mechtech> xover: nevermind that
[21:49] <juvic> i need help
[21:49] <Tophu> @purpley google it ... that is not really an ubuntu related question
[21:49] <ubuntu-usr> trashbarg: how to do list it?
[21:49] <iceroot> !ask | juvic
[21:49] <testing234234> where can i get the latest developementrelease of ubuntu?
[21:49] <Joe-needs-help> purpley - as tophu said
[21:50] <Tophu> @testing google ubuntu 9.10 alpha 3 download
[21:50] <Joe-needs-help> testingblahblahblah - ubuntu's webpage
[21:50] <juvic> how can i insstall the adbo flash cs3
[21:50] <Tophu> but it's a bad idea
[21:50] <testing234234> k
[21:50] <trashbarg> ubuntu-usr, you add the restricted repositories and then open synaptic, search for nvidia and post the results
[21:50] <Joe-needs-help> juvic - wine ?
[21:50] <testing234234> thx
[21:50] <iceroot> !wine | juvic
[21:50] <vital_> Purpley, may be proxychains?
[21:50] <trashbarg> !multiverse
[21:50] <juvic> yap i have wine
[21:50] <Joe-needs-help> juvic - try it through wine
[21:50] <juvic> i have to install this in wine
[21:51] <juvic> sh winetricks gecko gdiplus msxml3
[21:51] <trayzz> is there any other way of displaying/changing autostart apps than in the the gtk under system?
[21:51] <trashbarg> !multiverse > ubuntu-usr
[21:51] <juvic> but it's not openning the setup
[21:51] <xover> mechtech: any ideas?
[21:51] <Joe-needs-help> juvic - i'm sorry i cannot help you im not frequent with wine
[21:51] <Joe-needs-help> xover - what was your problem again ?
[21:52] <xover> hey guys, i am trying to install 9.04 on a macbook pro and getting an error message "grub-install fatal error" whats the solution please?
[21:52] <dbugger> Can someone help me to configure LyX to use DocBook? Im writing the documentation for an application I've developed and I dont see any Document class that's useful in the default set
[21:52] <Joe-needs-help> xover - give me a sec
[21:52] <xover> basically the install dies on trying to install grub to the MBR
[21:52] <trayzz> i mean there must be a different way of checking what apps are on startup right?
[21:52] <mechtech> xover: yeah...maybe you still have hfs+ on the drive?
[21:52] <xover> its a new drive
[21:53] <mechtech> xover: partitioned?
[21:53] <xover> no
[21:53] <xover> when i ran the install i choose lvm using full disk
[21:53] <Tophu> anyone have an n-trig touch laptop? I've been reading the threads on ubuntuforums.org trying to get my touchsmart tx2's touch input working
[21:53] <mechtech> xover: partition the drive first...must be partitioned, you'll need ext3 and a swap partition
[21:54] <xover> im using the alternative install and choosing auto layout
[21:54] <xover> with encrpytion and and lvm using entire disk
[21:54] <xover> then it installs ubuntu and finally dies saying fatal error cant install-grub
[21:55] <vital_> juvic, try to find the answer here http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=7120
[21:55] <Joe-needs-help> xover - the first step is to set a freeBSD kernel variable; sysct1 kern.geom.debugflags=16
[21:55] <juvic> ok tnx
[21:55] <juvic> w8
[21:55] <mechtech> xover: perhaps the encryption is preventing GRUB from installing correctly to the MBR
[21:55] <VCoolio> trayzz: check under ~/.config/autostart
[21:55] <xover> mechtech i tried all variations and no cigar
[21:55] <erika-chan> hi
[21:56] <xover> joe, how do i do this?
[21:56] <erika-chan> i need some help
[21:56] <Joe-needs-help> xover - the first step is to set a freeBSD kernel variable; sysct1 kern.geom.debugflags=16
[21:56] <mechtech> xover: see joe-needs-help's post
[21:56] <erika-chan> i can't connect by wlan
[21:56] <Joe-needs-help> xover - pm me
[21:56] <BigMao> Hi, I'm a longtime Ubuntu user.  My workstation has 4 monitors (2 graphics cards), and when one of them blew out, I upgraded to dual NVidia 9550GT (I had dual NVidia 7300 before).  Now I can't use anything but the VESA driver - hrelp?
[21:56] <RenardP> hello, I'm running Ubuntu 9.04 and I want to upgrade my partitions from ext3 to ext4, do you think it is safe ?
[21:57] <mechtech> erika-chan: iwconfig
[21:57] <iceroot> RenardP: never touch a running system :)
[21:57] <erika-chan> ok
[21:57] <VCoolio> trayzz: also /etc/xdg/autostart, the apps listed there will start at startup unless you copy them to the user folder and change the autostart line inside them to false
[21:57] <CRASHED> if i could get some help here, i installed and setup vnstat and the vnstat web interface so i could get logs of traffic on my site.
[21:57] <RenardP> iceroot: what about a new installed one ?
[21:57] <iceroot> RenardP: why need ext4?
[21:57] <erika-chan> wlan0     IEEE 802.11bg  ESSID:""
[21:57] <erika-chan>           Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.412 GHz  Access Point: Not-Associated
[21:57] <erika-chan>           Tx-Power=20 dBm
[21:57] <erika-chan>           Retry min limit:7   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr=2352 B
[21:57] <erika-chan>           Power Management:off
[21:57] <FloodBot3> erika-chan: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:57] <erika-chan>           Link Quality:0  Signal level:0  Noise level:0
[21:57] <CRASHED> it was working fine for a few hours until i rebooted the server, and now i can't seem to get vnstat to update the logs
[21:58] <Shinoda> Saaaaaalve!!!!
[21:58] <BigMao> I've already tried installing the restricted drivers, and using Envy, and building kernel modules with the newest NVidia driver.  I tried both the latest Ubuntu driver (180) and the legacy (173).  Nothing works
[21:58] <CRASHED> and when i run 'vnstat' i get this in the message: "eth0 [disabled]"
[21:58] <CRASHED> how would i re-enable eth0?
[21:58] <RenardP> iceroot:I've read on the net it is faster then ext3
[21:58] <iceroot> RenardP: hm, dont know. ext3 is fine and stable
[21:58] <pepperjack> BigMao: anything similar showing up in the forums?
[21:58] <jonex_> how I install desktop wallpaper?
[21:59] <iceroot> jonex_: right click on desktop, then choose changing background
[21:59] <CRASHED> could anyone help me get vnstat working again?
[21:59] <jiohdi> jonex, easiest is to web browse to a picture you like and back click it
[21:59] <iceroot> jonex_: then choose a image
[21:59] <erika-chan> ok iwconfig there ---------------> http://paste.ubuntu.com/235429/
[21:59] <BigMao> pepperjack, the solutions I've found in the forums all point to "Envy", I've tried it and it doesn't seem to help.
[21:59] <coyo> anyone know who to talk to about the repos and software updates? or do i roll my own package?
[21:59] <jiohdi> jonex, you will get an option to set as wall paper
[22:00] <coyo> i was hoping to get the latest version of supybot, which isnt in the repos
[22:00] <coyo> thanks
[22:00] <vital_> erika-chan, do you see networks with "iwlist wlan0 scan"?
[22:00] <jonex_> iceroot: but theres is a downloa dthat have more
[22:01] <BigMao> Any suggestions? Should I try with only one card?
[22:01] <erika-chan> no i dont
[22:02] <erika-chan> maybe here there's not any net
[22:02] <am0k0815> is there a virus checker in the package source ?
[22:02] <vigo> am0k0815: Yes, there are a few
[22:02] <erUSUL> !info clamav
[22:02] <mechtech> erika_chan: based on your previous posts, the power to your wireless card seems to be off
[22:02] <vital_> erika-chan, it is possible cause :-)
[22:03] <drakeman> hey man, didnt try ubuntu jaunty jet but the videos on youtube and screnthos looks very very nice, actually im using debian, but ubuntu looks great!!!
[22:03] <jonex_> any Broadcom wireless expert?
[22:03] <iceroot> am0k0815: you only need a virus-scanner to check mails on a mailserver and samba-shares. so only for windows clients. for linux you dont need a virus-scanner
[22:03] <iceroot> !wifi | jonex_
[22:03] <vigo> Thank you erUSUL
[22:03] <erika-chan> i hope so :D
[22:03] <erika-chan> i gonna go to college to c if i get any network
[22:03] <vigo> and iceroot
[22:03] <vital_> erika-chan, at least may be you don't have a net with enough signal level
[22:04] <vital_> you can use iwlist command to scan networks
[22:04] <jonex_> the problem is
[22:04] <kapu> can someone point me to a recent tutorial/guide for accessing mysql from perl? Everything I find on Google seems outdated and dosn't work for me. I am having a hard time making a perl script to access mysql on Ubuntu server
[22:04] <helo> my hp mini has a marvell 88E8040 pci-e ethernet controller, which works fine with the live thumb drive, but doesn't work on my jaunty-upgraded-from-intrepid install on-disk...
[22:04] <jonex_> my wireless only works for Ubuntu stuf
[22:04] <iceroot> kapu: maybe #perl ?
[22:04] <magnetron> hi, is ubuntu using any TCP wrapper by default?
[22:05] <xim_> whats the difference between sunjdk and openjdk?  can they both be installed simultaneously?
[22:05] <iceroot> xim_: the licence
[22:05] <erika-chan> i live in a place where wifi networks arent so popular
[22:06] <Joe-needs-help> does anyone know how to map a laptop to become a wireless external hdd over a wifi connection ?
[22:06] <iceroot> xim_: you only need one
[22:06] <iceroot> xim_: but yes, you can install both
[22:06] <xim_> iceroot: ok thanks
[22:06] <Joe-needs-help> does anyone know how to map a laptop to become a wireless external hdd over a wifi connection ?
[22:06] <mezquitale> Joe-needs-help,  you mean you want to share your hard drive wirelessly?
[22:06] <HardDisk> fn'erika-chan, the zoo?
[22:07] <parsimoniae> joe-needs-help: look into openssl
[22:07] <vital_> erika-chan, you can try "kismet" app to get maximum info about wireless packets around you
[22:07] <parsimoniae> and sshfs
[22:07] <Joe-needs-help> mexquitale - yeah
[22:07] <guereca> hello
[22:07] <iceroot> guereca: hi
[22:07] <erika-chan> oh cool
[22:07] <Joe-needs-help> mezqitale - yeah (sorry spelt your name wrong)
[22:07] <pepperjack> Joe-needs-help: easiest solution might be to run ssh server on the lappy and then use sshfs to mount it to a directory
[22:07] <erika-chan> lol
[22:07] <erika-chan> let's say a farm
[22:08] <guereca> ihow u doing iceroot
[22:08] <Joe-needs-help> pepperjack - cheers ill give it a shot and tell you how i do
[22:08] <parsimoniae> joe-needs-help: or samba if you need access over a windows box, though there is a program for sshfs in windows too
[22:08] <mezquitale> Joe-needs-help, what operating system you have in your laptop and what  Operatin Systems the machines have that will access your laptop???
[22:08] <mechtech> erika_chan:
           Power Management:off
[22:08] <pepperjack> erika-chan: you need an old sat dish then you can replace the lnb with your antenna. get some range out of that setup
[22:08] <erika-chan> rofl
[22:09] <Joe-needs-help> mezquitale - the lappy i want to map is on ubuntu 9.04 and the laptop i want to access all my stuff on the other lappy is on ubuntu studio
[22:09] <erika-chan> im not that far away lol
[22:09] <erika-chan> i got internet but i wanna put a wifi router
[22:09] <parsimoniae> joe-needs-help: sshfs will work
[22:10] <Joe-needs-help> could i just sudo that ?
[22:10] <Joe-needs-help> so like sudo apt-get install sshfs ?
[22:10] <mechtech> erika-chan: I recommend either a linksys 802.11n or an Apple Airport Extreme Base Station
[22:10] <erika-chan> oh thank you
[22:10] <mezquitale> Joe-needs-help,  you already got the answer, easiest way is to have SSH server.  I have the same setup except the other way around.  All my files are in my Desktop.  The SSH server is on my desktop and I use unison to synchronize my files, I can do it anywhere, locally or on the internet.
[22:10] <LexLuth0r> Have a WinXP which has putty installed, I have logged onto my Ubuntu PC, is it possible to transfer a folder from my Windows PC to Ubuntu via SSH
[22:10] <erika-chan> i was thinking in linksys
[22:11] <parsimoniae> sudo apt-get install openssl
[22:11] <pepperjack> Joe-needs-help: sshfs user@ipaddress:/remotedirectory /mnt/sshfs   <-- that might not be exactly right. there is also an allow_other switch you can use for normal users to use it
[22:11] <parsimoniae> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHFS
[22:11] <magnetron> LexLuth0r: yes, all you need is a SFTP program. example: WinSCP
[22:11] <Trijntje> is 64 bit ubuntu as stable as 32 bits? or are there programs that don't function
[22:11] <LexLuth0r> Do I install this on my XP PC
[22:11] <parsimoniae> gnomes connect to server works well
[22:11] <mechtech> erika-chan: the Aplle has the same capabilities, plus you can share USB print or USB hdd on it, and it's $20 cheaper
[22:12] <guereca> The only problem I found in Ubuntu is Java.
[22:12] <trayzz> what's the command to open a directory?
[22:12] <pepperjack> Trijntje: both are very stable. there are minor things you might encounter in 64 bit. for instance adobe flash is still in alpha or beta stuff like that
[22:12] <albdum> hello can some1 help me with a hard disk that doesn't mount on my ubuntu server ?
[22:12] <erika-chan> but here at my place is more expensive
[22:12] <guereca> Some applet will not work
[22:12] <mechtech> trayzz: cd/directoryname, then ls to view contents
[22:12] <parsimoniae> trayzz: cd
[22:12] <mezquitale> Trijntje, I've had serious issues with jaunty, i use intrepid in my 64 bit desktop
[22:12] <cwill> hey guys I'm new so forgive me. I Know Sqwat. my question is this.....
[22:13] <albdum> mount: special device /dev/sdc1 does not exist
[22:13] <albdum>  some1 knows anything about it ?
[22:13] <mechtech> erika-chan: either would be excellent...I bought my Apple at the Apple Store
[22:13] <pepperjack> albdum: removable HD?
[22:13] <mechtech> !ask | cwill
[22:13] <albdum> no peper jack :(
[22:13] <cwill> i dual boot (installed within xp) how do i find the xp document files
[22:13] <cwill> i did not partition
[22:13] <pepperjack> albdum: well that isnt good.  what does sudo fdisk -l say?  (dont paste in the channel of course)
[22:14] <vital_> LexLuth0r, putty should include PSCP - command line file copying utility http://the.earth.li/~sgtatham/putty/0.60/htmldoc/Chapter5.html#pscp
[22:14] <mezquitale> albdum,  try "sudo blkid"
[22:14] <jiohdi> cwill, you will find a drive labelled with your xp machine name
[22:14] <trayzz> the strange thing is
[22:14] <mechtech> cwill: linux will not run off a drive with no linux partition
[22:14] <trayzz> it contains these files
[22:14] <trayzz> trayzz@tray:~/.config/autostart$ ls
[22:14] <trayzz> bluetooth-applet.desktop  conky&.desktop  dropbox.desktop  evolution-alarm-notify.desktop  libcanberra-login-sound.desktop  yakuake.desktop
[22:14] <cwill> in places right?
[22:14] <erika-chan> well guys gtg cya laterz xxoxxo
[22:14] <erika-chan> ty for everything
[22:14] <trayzz> but skype pidgin nautilus etc still start
[22:14] <maqjj> ola
[22:15] <drakeman> ola
[22:15] <jiohdi> cwill, open any drive folder and you can find it down the list under computer
[22:15] <trayzz> even though they are neither in startup apps folder nor in the system-preferences-autostart thing
[22:15] <jiohdi> if its there
[22:15] <trayzz> that just doesnt make sense to me
[22:15] <mezquitale> albdum,  try "sudo blkid"
[22:16] <albdum> the problem is on 2 of my 4 sata disks
[22:16] <albdum> that i have connected to the pc through a pci-sata
[22:16] <Void> why client ubuntuone no connect?
[22:16] <albdum> they mount on desktop ubuntu but not on server ubuntu
[22:17] <CRASHED> anyone know any nice cpu and bandwidth monitoring tools?
[22:17] <cwill> sorry jiohdi not seeing it...
[22:17] <VCoolio> trayzz: there is an option at startup apps to remember opened apps on shutdown. Enable that, close all apps, especially pidgin etc, reboot, check if it helps. Don't forget to disable the option again.
[22:17] <mechtech> crashed: system monitor
[22:17] <trayzz> alright so i've checked that, automaticly remember... is unchecked, skype pidgin and nautilus are not in any of the startup directories (/etc/xdg/autostart and ~/.config/autostart) but they still start at startup
[22:17] <mezquitale> CRASHED, try "System Monitor"
[22:18] <mezquitale> mechtech beat me to it LoL
[22:18] <mechtech> ha!
[22:18] <trayzz> VCoolio: so i should shut them all down once before reboot?
[22:19] <VCoolio> trayzz: yeah, just make sure no apps run anymore and reboot with that option checked, so it remembers that nothing was running
[22:19] <xiong> i attempt to delete an empty folder in evolution -- the error is 'cannot delete folder "adeleteme"' -- what is the solution?
[22:19] <CRASHED> mechtech, im looking for one with a web interface
[22:19] <hanasaki> anyone remember the name of the program that makes you enter the root password to "reboot" if you are ssh'ed to a remote box?
[22:19] <trayzz> VCoolio: oh, that makes sense
[22:20] <cwill> All that i see there is associated with ubuntu
[22:20] <vital_> hanasaki, "sudo" "su" ?
[22:20] <msds1502> How can I remove The GRUB loader from boot and go straight into the Vista loader?
[22:20] <mechtech> crashed: oh...ok
[22:21] <hanasaki> vital_:  nope... that I know... this is a program that only kicks in (even for root) ify ou type reboot and are on a remote computer only
[22:21] <losher> !grub | msds1502
[22:21] <CRASHED> mechtech, for example i got vnstat with php interface running. its nice but im hoping to find one that logs cpu, ram, disk space, etc
[22:21] <CRASHED> http://crashedco.com/log
[22:21] <mechtech> hail losher
[22:21] <vital_> hanasaki, ah, sorry, then I don't know
[22:21] <losher> mechtech: hi there...
[22:22] <losher> hanasaki: I don't know either. But sudo reboot will have much the same effect...
[22:22] <cwill> thanks for the assist but have to go later
[22:22] <mechtech> crashed: I'm really not familiar with system monitoring utilities...matbe someone else =( sorry
[22:22] <duncan__> !karmic
[22:22] <Rexxars> hi, I'm having some trouble with mdadm... "/dev/sdj1 overrides previous devices due to good homehost" any idea what this means or how to override this? I've tried googling it but not getting anything helpful
[22:23] <albdum> Hello can some1 help me with a mount problem ? (dual boot pc - same drives mount at desktop-ubuntu fine but on server-ubuntu they don't [ mount: special device /dev/sdc1 does not exist] the 2 that aren't working at server are connected at a pci-sata the other two working are connected to motherboard)
[22:23] <albdum> albus@ubuntu-server:/$ sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /media/HardDisk2
[22:23] <albdum> mount: special device /dev/sdc1 does not exist
[22:23] <albdum> albus@ubuntu-server:/$ sudo mount /dev/sdc /media/HardDisk2
[22:23] <albdum> mount: unknown filesystem type 'isw_raid_member'
[22:23] <FloodBot3> albdum: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:24] <edbian> albdum: Do the partitions you want to mount show up in the output of "fdisk 0-l"   ?
[22:24] <mechtech> gotta swing my daughter across town...I'll be back.
[22:24] <anahata> hi room
[22:24] <edbian> albdum: * fdisk -l
[22:24] <att0> I am trying to install Truecrypt by downloading the .tar from the official website. I extract the x86 .deb but when I try to install, it says "Wrong architecture 'i386'". I am not using a 64-bit system.
[22:24] <msds1502> There isn't a section on Removing GRUB.  I don't want another system as default.
[22:24] <anahata> does ubuntu support all lcd monitors? how do i find out if it will fully support the one i'm about to buy: HP L1506 with ATI Rage Ultra 128 video card
[22:24] <albdum> edbian : yes they show there but the sdc1 and sdd1 aren't in /dev althrought the sdc and sdd are
[22:25] <network___> Is it legal to have the download link to ubuntu on another site?
[22:25] <Myrtti> network___: why wouldn't it be?
[22:25] <edbian> albdum: Odd.  There is some issue with your raid array I think.  I don't know specifically what though.  Suffice to say:  Any and all filesystems connected to the machine locally should show up in /dev individually
[22:26] <HardDisk> network, ubuntu is free
[22:26] <Myrtti> network___: open source software, free to download, modify and redistribute
[22:26] <vital_> msds1502, I think you need something like "fdisk /mbr" executed from win. But be careful! you can lost the possibility boot your system!
[22:26] <HardDisk> you can link post banners do whatever you want
[22:26] <Myrtti> network___: not only in price
[22:26] <zopiac1> can only one problem use sound at once? I am trying to use GTick and Audacity, but it gives me errors when I try to use them at the same time.
[22:26] <HardDisk> its free for you to modify
[22:26] <losher> msds1502: sorry, I meant to point you to a fixmbr link
[22:26] <losher> !fixmbr
[22:26] <network___> awesome. Just wondering.
[22:26] <Leoneof> hey ^_^
[22:26] <DaZ> network___, lawyers have been notified
[22:26] <albdum> edbian: yeah in ubuntu-desktop on same pc they mount just fine
[22:27] <losher> msds1502: sigh. That wasn't much better was it. Just google fixmbr...
[22:27] <network___> I was going to send a link in email to friend.
[22:27] <jonex_> :( i d k how to work with my wireless
[22:27] <soapbox> How do I end a process in ubuntu (for instance, firefox is running right now, but not in a window, so I can't start firefox until I end the currently running firefox process)
[22:27] <edbian> albdum: You have 2 OS"s on the same physical system?  ubuntu server and ubuntu desktop ??
[22:27] <albdum> edbian: maybe it helps i have them on raid before server and before i installed server i delete the raid1 and format the 1 disk
[22:27] <pepperjack> soapbox: pkill firefox
[22:27] <DaZ> soapbox, kilall, kill, xkill
[22:27] <att0> Downloaded the 64-bit .deb and the install went fine.. still don't know why I have to use 64-bit though
[22:27] <soapbox> thanks pepperjack
[22:27] <albdum> edbian : yes in the desktop they mount just fine
[22:28] <edbian> att0: You need 64 bit OS if you want to utilize more than 3.5 Gb of ram
[22:28] <msds1502> losher: Is it possible to go to the Vista loader first?  I've used EasyBCD to create NeoGRUB so i can get back to a Ubuntu boot screen
[22:28] <edbian> albdum: I'm not sure why they're not showing up in /dev  (the partitions).  They should.  Sorry I can't help more :(
[22:28] <DaZ> edbian, pae?
[22:28] <soapbox> by the way is anyone here familiar with rsync and specifically rsync errors?
[22:28] <DaZ> ahh
[22:28] <jethro> Have they moved "linux-backports-modules-intrepid-generic" when i sudo apt get i get "E: Couldn't find package linux-backports-modules-intrepid-generic
[22:28] <jethro> "
[22:28] <bendt> what is the best irc client for the console?
[22:28] <edbian> DaZ: ?  pae ?
[22:29] <network___> !gobuntu
[22:29] <Seveas> !anyone | soapbox
[22:29] <DaZ> edbian, he doesn't need 64 to use more than 4gb
[22:29] <Seveas> :)
[22:29] <soapbox> lol thanks seveas fair enough
[22:29] <losher> msds1502: I don't know enough about vista to advise you. I believe there are 3rd party bootloaders with more flexibility. You might ask on ##windows
[22:29] <edbian> jethro: Try searching the repos.  sudo apt-get search <oackageName>
[22:29] <albdum> edbian: thnx for your time
[22:29] <edbian> DaZ:  Then what does he need it for?
[22:29] <albdum> maybe some1 else knows ? :)
[22:30] <DaZ> edbian, he doesn't it makes only more problems
[22:30] <Seveas> soapbox, so what are your rsync errors?
[22:30] <jethro> edbian: E: Invalid operation search
[22:30] <DaZ> at least in my experience :f
[22:31] <Seveas> jethro, try apt-cache search instead of apt-get search
[22:31] <edbian> DaZ:  Are you saying he doesn't have 4Gb of ram at all, therefore he should just get 32 bit ubuntu?  (BTW who are we talking about here :P ? )
[22:31] <testing234234> "nf_conntrack: table full, dropping packet." - how can i raise the connectionlimit?
[22:31] <losher> soapbox: what is your rsync error? Pastebin it if it's long...
[22:31] <soapbox> I'm putting it together for you in a pastebin losher
[22:31] <albdum> Maybe some1 knows why sdc1 isn't on /dev while it is listed at fdisk -l ?
[22:31] <klenz87> hey i have a problem when i boot my ubuntu pc my login screen is out of range of my monitor how can i fix that?
[22:31] <edbian> jethro: "sudo aptitude search <packageName>
[22:31] <bendt> What is the best irc client for the console?
[22:32] <DaZ> edbian, i'm saying you can use more than 4gb on 32bit with pae enabled, so 64bit is worthless on desktop <:
[22:32] <hanasaki> ah.. found it.. molly-guard
[22:32] <VCoolio> bendt: what is best depends on your needs, but try irssi
[22:32] <jethro> edbian and seveas the apt-cash search found the package, how do install it from there
[22:32] <edbian> DaZ:  I've never heard of this!!!  What is pae?!?
[22:32] <DaZ> google->pae <:
[22:33] <jonex_> can i use remote desktop out of LAN?
[22:33] <edbian> jethro: It was probably a typo ;)  If it is in apt-cache it is probably in the repos
[22:33] <Seveas> jethro, apt-get install <packagename here>
[22:33] <bendt> bye
[22:33] <javagamer> Can anyone help me with a zip command?  I currently have "zip -r scripts001.pk4 scripts001", but then scripts001 is included in the zip, what I want is to just have all the subdirectories and files included, as though I archived scripts001
[22:34] <coyo> anyone know who to talk to about ubuntu package remositories? like, when the package 'supybot' will be updated?
[22:34] <Andorin> Is there anything in Ubuntu that would cause a site to fail to load when it would load in Windows XP?
[22:34] <jonex_> remotes desktop
[22:34] <javagamer> coyo: I think it's possible to look up who maintains it, though I don't know how off the top of my head.
[22:34] <coyo> okay
[22:34] <albdum> Maybe some1 knows why sdc1 isn't on /dev while it is listed at fdisk -l ?
[22:35] <DaZ> Andorin, lack of silverlight?
[22:35] <edbian> Andorin: Night having flash installed?
[22:35] <Seveas> coyo, it will be updated in the next version of ubuntu. Not in released versions.
[22:35] <jiohdi> andorin, there may be something on the site... like office live will not allow anything but xp machines to access
[22:35] <Andorin> edbian: It will load on my PC, and I have Flash. But it won't load on my mom's.
[22:35] <coyo> okay
[22:35] <javagamer> nm, fixed my command
[22:36] <losher> coyo: have you found a bug in it? Is that why you're looking for an update?
[22:36] <msds1502> So can I remove GRUB?
[22:36] <Andorin> jiohdi: That's sort of what I was thinking, but it sounds a little crazy to just say "The website won't let Linux users access it."
[22:36] <coyo> since karmic will be coming out soon, that's not a problem, thanks guys
[22:36] <jonex_> can i use remote desktop out of the LAN??????????/
[22:36]  * coyo hugs
[22:36] <edbian> msds1502: If you remove grub you won't have a boot loader.  You need to replace grub if you want to get rid of it.
[22:36] <jiohdi> andorin, its true of ms office live, it may be true of others
[22:36] <Andorin> DaZ: She didn't run Silverlight on the other PC.
[22:37] <riyazd> hi, I'm a total novice here and need some urgent support getting my wireless working.  Belkin f5d8010 ubuntu 9.04
[22:37] <msds1502> Edbian: Would it go straight to my Vista loader? or straight into Ubuntu?
[22:37] <donnybrasco> hey - I would like to remove windows from my computer (currently dual-booting) does anyone know if I can do it without reformatting?
[22:37] <DaZ> Andorin, it may be activex related
[22:37] <VCoolio> jiohdi: there is an about:config trick in firefox to pretend you're using windows if I remember correctly, could give it a shot
[22:37] <coyo> losher: well, a plugin that searches google within irc uses a deprecated feature of google, and the latest version uses a part of google that works
[22:37] <edi_x_1> hi all
[22:37] <Andorin> DaZ: She now uses Firefox when she used IE6 before, if that helps.
[22:38] <edbian> msds1502: No.  "removing grub" would leave nother (no bootloader at all) in the master boot record.  Some boot loader needs to be there for any of your OS"s to boot.  windows has one that it installs when the OS is installed but it is transparent unlike grub which the user is usually aware of.
[22:38] <pepperjack> jonex_: yes but youll likely need to have port forwarding setup on the destination router or whatever
[22:38] <Trijntje> hi edi_x_1
[22:38] <jiohdi> vcoolio, opera has that but office live says no go, must be xp
[22:38] <msds1502> donnybrasco: Get a GParted LiveCD and just delete the Windows NTFS partition and then resize your Ext3 partition to make it bbigger
[22:38] <losher> coyo: the reason I ask is because if you can't wait, you could maybe download the latest version and install it by hand...
[22:38] <soapbox> hey losher here you go: http://pastebin.com/d988b563
[22:38] <jonex_> got u ...to much work
[22:38] <edi_x_1> is there any way that I can encrypt my ubuntu powered netbook?  I'd prefer not to have to re-install if this was possibele
[22:38] <DaZ> Andorin, what page and how it doesn't and does work, would help <:
[22:38] <coyo> losher: that's what i was planning to do. okay, thanks
[22:38] <pepperjack> !wireless | riyazd
[22:38] <coyo> bye guys
[22:39] <jonex_> i need to install wireles drivers that are not supported(Broadcom)
[22:39] <donnybrasco> awesome, thanks - I was dreading the hassel of having to reformat and configure everything all over again!
[22:39] <Seveas> soapbox, that's an easy one
[22:39] <jethro> i am doing the same thing jonex
[22:39] <Seveas> #
[22:39] <Seveas> mkdir: cannot create directory `/home/truth18/public_html/Joomla/images/image_script_pics/uncategorized': File exists
[22:39] <Andorin> DaZ: Alright, the site is: http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/ It seems to be a 500 error. Internal Server error.
[22:39] <msds1502> edbian: if i installed Win7 last, after ubuntu, would it recognize Ubuntu and add it to the list on the bootloader
[22:39] <Seveas> remove the file called 'uncategorized' so resync can create the dir
[22:39] <sh4d3sl4y3r_> is it just me? or is it everyone that i am not receiving any updates since 3-4 days
[22:39] <jonex_> jethro: what wireless u have?
[22:39] <sh4d3sl4y3r_> ?
[22:39] <DaZ> Andorin, works for me
[22:39] <Andorin> DaZ, what are you running?
[22:39] <jethro> jonex atherox 5xxx
[22:39] <soapbox> if you are right i am going to kill rackspace seveas
[22:40] <DaZ> arora
[22:40] <jethro> jonex atheros*
[22:40] <soapbox> they've been running me around for hours
[22:40] <DaZ> Andorin, maybe it's cache?
[22:40] <jonex_> put my name and 2 point :
[22:40] <edbian> msds1502: No windows 7 bootloader is not that smart (not as smart as grub).  It will only point to windows 7
[22:40] <sh4d3sl4y3r_> y is it that there are no updates since few days
[22:40] <soapbox> Alright removing it then
[22:40] <losher> soapbox: the problem isn't rsync, per se, it's the ssh connection. See this -> ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host <- it means ssh can't start
[22:40] <jonex_> jethro: oo i have broadcom
[22:40] <msds1502> donnybrasco: If your using a GRUBloader make sure you edit menu.lst to remove the Windows entry from it ( use gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst )
[22:40] <Andorin> DaZ: I'm on Ubuntu Jaunty and she's on Xubuntu Jaunty. Cache? I don't know. She said the site began refusing to load when she switched from her XP box.
[22:40] <soapbox> At the same time Losher, I can log in from root on server a via ssh
[22:40] <soapbox> and then through that server log in via ssh to server b
[22:40] <soapbox> and vice versa
[22:41] <soapbox> (as root on both machines)
[22:41] <edi_x_1> anyone know anything about how to encrypt an ubuntu powered netbook?
[22:41] <edbian> msds1502: Conversely If you install windows 7 and then ubuntu grub will see windows 7 and add an entry for it.
[22:41] <DaZ> Andorin, 500 isn't browser/system related so it should work now
[22:41] <geezer> Greetings, does anyone here use the wbar or Cairo dock. I need to know if either of them allow me to align them along the side of my screen (as opposed to the default bottom)
[22:41] <riyazd> ubottu: no joy there
[22:41] <soapbox> trying deleting that directory since it's unimportant and definitely worth a shot
[22:41] <Andorin> DaZ: That's good to know. Is there any reason why it would not load for our connection?
[22:42] <DaZ> Andorin, it did load
[22:42] <donnybrasco> thanks msds - should I do that first or after I delete the partition?
[22:42] <Andorin> DaZ: Not for us, though.
[22:42] <DaZ> but there was something wrong with the server
[22:42] <msds1502> edbian: I have 3 OS installed right now, is there a away i can have GRUB show options for Windows 7 and Windows XP?
[22:42] <losher> soapbox: I agree the directory deletion is a red herring...
[22:42] <edbian> msds1502: Yes absolutely!
[22:42] <stryker> i have not been able to play music on amarok, i reinstalled it through synaptics, and not it seems at least it gives me an error, i think http://i28.tinypic.com/s28f90.png
[22:42] <DaZ> Andorin, and for everyone at the time
[22:42] <geent1> Do anybody knows if is any channel for Linux Mint
[22:42] <soapbox> lol its like 5,000 directories
[22:42] <soapbox> all empty though
[22:43] <UbuntuDude> geent1: #linuxmint in IRC
[22:43] <losher> soapbox: try temporarily changing `rsync -aze ssh root\@truthout.org:/var/www/html/$img_path $to_path` to `rsync -aze 'ssh -v' root\@truthout.org:/var/www/html/$img_path $to_path` to see if you can get some debugs out of ssh....
[22:43] <tuxxy> anyone know a of a decent free shell provider
[22:43] <msds1502> donnybrasco: I would delete it AFTER you delete your NTFS partition and lengthen your primary Ext3 ubuntu partition
[22:43] <Andorin> DaZ, the page is still not loading for me...
[22:43] <donnybrasco> msds: ok - will do
[22:43] <soapbox> Alright I'll try that as well Losher, good idea
[22:43] <DaZ> Andorin, remove cache? :f
[22:43] <msds1502> edbian: Right now, GRUB gives me the option for the Windows Bootloader, not a specific OS
[22:44] <losher> soapbox: you can compare that output to 'ssh -v root@xx.xx.xxx.xx' run by hand....
[22:44] <edbian> msds1502: If you run "update-grub" it will look for all the OS"s and write entries for them automatically.  You can edit /boot/grub/menu.lst by hand if they don't work (sometimes they don't)
[22:44] <acke> hey, why is my dvd-+RW mounted as a cdrom?
[22:44] <soapbox> Alright
[22:44] <msds1502> edbian: where is "update-grub" ?
[22:44] <acke> and why cant my /media/cdrom mounted dvd+-RW not play dvd-rom movies?
[22:45] <losher> acke: you mean why is read-only? Just a naming convention. You should still be able to write to it...
[22:45] <geezer> Anyone know a site where I can find cool bootsplash (usplash) screens??... already searched the usual suspects like gnome-look and linux art
[22:45] <edbian> msds1502: There are 2 parts to the bootloader because they have gotten sophisticated and no  longer fit entirely in the MBR.  When grub "chainloads" or points to the windows boot loader it's pointing to the part that is located on the partition with the rest of the windows OS.
[22:45] <acke> losher well the problem is that it doesnt play my dvds.. you know why?
[22:45] <klenz87> Does any one know how to change the login in window resolution my login window causes my monitor to tell me that its out of range
[22:45] <losher> acke: what actually happends when you try to play (and which app do you use?)
[22:45] <edbian> msds1502: You can manually create entries in your menu.lst for each OS.  Triple boots are not unheard of by any means
[22:46] <Andorin> DaZ: Still doesn't work.
[22:46] <msds1502> edbian: where do i update GRUB?
[22:46] <edbian> msds1502: Try googling "how to triple boot ubuntu windows XP and windows 7" I bet you get many many hits
[22:46] <DaZ> Andorin, traceroute
[22:46] <acke> losher i use vlc. the video screen pops up, and terminates, nothing more happends
[22:46] <Andorin> DaZ: ?
[22:47] <msds1502> edbian: yay lifehacker!
[22:47] <DaZ> Andorin, and se if wget gets page with 500
[22:47] <edbian> msds1502: You can literally run the program "update-grub" or "grub-update"  (I can't remember which).  It's update procedure is controlled mostly by the configuartions in the first part of /boot/grub/menu.lst
[22:47] <geezer> @klenz87 doesn't StartUp-Manager (found in synaptic) allow you to do that.
[22:47] <Andorin> Daz: What is traceroute?
[22:47] <DaZ> program :f
[22:47] <losher> acke: do you have the decryption library installed?
[22:47] <Trijntje> is it possible to install wubi on a different hd than vista?
[22:47] <losher> !dvd
[22:47] <msds1502> !updateGRUB
[22:48] <edbian> msds1502: "man update-grub"
[22:48] <edbian> msds1502: "man grub-update"
[22:48] <msds1502> in terminal?
[22:48] <edbian> Like I said, one of the two is correct
[22:48] <edbian> msds1502: Yeah! silly
[22:48] <msds1502> :p
[22:48] <q_a_z_steve> can anyone help me reconstruct what should be a perfectly fine split bz2 archive?
[22:48] <msds1502> edbian: i'm still a linux noob
[22:48] <SuperMiguel> does ubuntu support ntfs out of the box?
[22:48] <losher> acke: edbian update-grub...
[22:48] <Andorin> DaZ: I'm no good at reading man pages, especially in 100-degree heat... what's the command to check the site?
[22:48] <stryker> when using amarok, i get this error: The audio playback device hda ati sb does not work i found a post online that deals with this, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=616845 , but i am still confused as to what to do
[22:49] <Trijntje> SuperMiguel: yes
[22:49] <edbian> msds1502: update-grub apparently
[22:49] <DaZ> traceroute link, wget link
[22:49] <edbian> msds1502: "startup-manager" is a handy little app to help configure menu.lst as well
[22:49] <edbian> msds1502: It's GUI based
[22:49] <losher> oops. typed acke when I meant to type msds1502 ....
[22:49] <edbian> msds1502: I have to go!  Good luck!
[22:49] <SuperMiguel> whats the best way to copy "everything" from a ext3 drive to an ntfs drive??
[22:49] <soapbox> Alright it looks like (maybe) the rsync issue is resolved. Now the issue is that it's asking me for the root password over and over again regardless of how many times i enter it
[22:49] <edbian> SuperMiguel: The dd command :)
[22:50] <acke> losher decrypt librar i think so, but im not sure how do i check for that? what lib do I want to look for?
[22:50] <acke> !dvd
[22:50] <soapbox> that's on me to fix though, hey thanks for your help #ubuntu!
[22:50] <Andorin> DaZ: Yep, it gives a 500.
[22:51] <SuperMiguel> whats the best way to copy "everything" from a ext3 drive to an ntfs drive??
[22:51] <DaZ> SuperMiguel,  cp
[22:52] <danbhfive> SuperMiguel: rsync may work well
[22:52] <losher> soapbox: that's because it's trying to read stdin and something else (the perl script) has gotten hold of stdin, so it's constantly reading eof and looping. The easiest (ahem) cure is to make ssh not prompt for a password by using public key authentication. Either that or call rsync differently from perl e.g. using system()
[22:52] <DaZ> SuperMiguel, ntfs-3g gets really slow with files over 4gb
[22:52] <msds1502> whats the program name of the startup manager? startup-manager didn't work
[22:52] <SuperMiguel> danbhfive, rsync gives me an chown errors
[22:52] <jonex_> I need help with this http://www.broadcom.com/docs/linux_sta/README.txt
[22:52] <SuperMiguel> DaZ, there are files grater than 4gb :(
[22:52] <SuperMiguel> DaZ, what can i do?
[22:52] <VCoolio> msds1502: you have to install it first
[22:53] <losher> SuperMiguel: I agree with danbhfive. rsync -av is probably easiest. Run it under sudo to avoid permissions problems...
[22:53] <DaZ> SuperMiguel, i copy them through lan
[22:53] <Andorin> DaZ: Yep, it gives a 500.
[22:53] <peniwize> Hi guys.  I had a problem with my nVidia video driver that others may have as well so I wrote a blog post about it at "http://peniwize.wordpress.com/2009/07/27/how-i-solved-my-nvidia-driver-kernel-module-api-mismatchj-problem/".  Is there an on-line forum where I can post or link to this to help out the community?
[22:53] <msds1502> VCoolio: sudo apt-get startup-manager?
[22:54] <SuperMiguel> losher, even using sudo i get chown errors
[22:54] <VCoolio> msds1502: yes, and it start with the command startupmanager (without the - )
[22:54] <jonex_> help !!! http://www.broadcom.com/docs/linux_sta/README.txt
[22:54] <acke> losher: i get these errors after following the guide: VLC cannot set the DVD's title. It possibly cannot decrypt the entire disk.
[22:54] <msds1502> oh!
[22:54] <losher> SuperMiguel: also, I don't know if ownership on ntfs doesn't work the same as on ext3. That may be why...
[22:54] <VCoolio> msds1502: no, apt-get install startup-manager
[22:54] <acke> and this unable to open dvd:///dev/sr0
[22:55] <DaZ`> connection died
[22:55] <SuperMiguel> losher, should i change the permision to 777 on everything on that drive?
[22:55] <losher> acke: Hmm. sounds like decryption lib is missing. I have to run. Start googling :-)
[22:55] <DaZ`> SuperMiguel: you can use lan or windows ext3 driver
[22:55] <acke> losher: thx
[22:55] <losher> SuperMiguel: sorry, I don't know enough about ntfs to advise you....
[22:55] <soapbox> Losher, when you're finished helping supermiguel could you link me to a tutorial on setting up public keys? That's not my script and I don't write perl so I think your first cure (keys) is ideal
[22:55] <danbhfive> SuperMiguel: you may just have to mount it a certain way to get 777
[22:56] <msds1502> vcoolio: i just went to the synaptic package manager
[22:56] <SuperMiguel> DaZ, umm thats not a bad idea... it is actually real good
[22:56] <msds1502> it was therer
[22:56] <losher> soapbox: Sorry, I have to run. Check in google...
[22:56] <SuperMiguel> DaZ, Thank u :)
[22:56] <DaZ`> yw
[22:57] <pelmen> guyx, how do i check last login time for user "xxx". Also who the hell is "qtss" user ? anyone ?
[22:57] <pelmen> *guys
[22:57] <sdfh> Hello everyone, if i install xubuntu... It will find all my hardware and drivers in the installation of xubuntu right? The only diffrent between ubuntu and xubuntu is that i can choose wich packages i want to install?
[22:57] <Andorin> DaZ: As requested, I checked the site with wget, and the resulting output included the 500 internal server error. What is it that I do next?
[22:57] <albdum> Hello Guys any1 knows why sdc1 and sdd1 are on fdisk -l but not at /dev OS: Ubuntu Server 9.04 32bit (At the same pc with ubuntu desktop 9.04 those two disks are fine)
[22:58] <msds1502> whats the purpose of chainloader +1 in GRUBs menu.lst?
[22:58] <stryker> im trying to edit a file, but it says i don't have permission
[22:58] <DaZ`> Andorin: i don't know ;
[22:58] <VCoolio> stryker: sudo nano <file>  or  gksudo gedit <file>
[22:58] <DaZ`> Andorin: it may be redirected somewhere in your network, so check it with traceroute
[22:58] <stryker> VCoolio: thanks
[22:58] <danbhfive> msds1502: chainloaders load up a different bootloader.  Its used allot with windows install (ie, and OS that doesn't use grub)
[22:59] <sdfh> Will Synaptics follow in the Xubuntu installation? Or do i need to install that? I just want to have a pretty clean ubuntu system there i can choose wich programs i wich to be installed
[22:59] <mezquitale> sdfh, try #xubuntu, this is an ubuntu channel
[22:59] <maximumbob_> how can I force dns resolution in ubuntu? I want to use OpenDNS. I see how to do this for individual connections, but I want all connections to use it by default. If I edit resolv.conf, networkmanager will overwrite it, yes?
[23:00] <msds1502> danbhfive: what specifically does the +1 do? (versus some other number)
[23:00] <albdum> Hello Guys any1 knows why sdc1 and sdd1 are on fdisk -l but not at /dev OS: Ubuntu Server 9.04 32bit (At the same pc with ubuntu desktop 9.04 those two disks are fine). Also those 2 disk are connected throught pci-sata
[23:00] <DaZ`> maximumbob_: a-w
[23:00] <jonex_> help!!! help!!! help !!! http://www.broadcom.com/docs/linux_sta/README.txt
[23:00] <danbhfive> msds1502: its saying the bootloader is at the +1 spot of the partition.  Beyond that, I don't know.
[23:01] <maximumbob_> DaZ`: I don't follow...
[23:01] <__iron> jonex_: ?
[23:01] <danbhfive> sdfh: it looks like synaptic is part of Xubuntu
[23:01] <DaZ`> maximumbob_: remove writing permission
[23:01] <msds1502> whats the best way of getting AV codecs since automatix is gone?
[23:01] <spitzi> Hi. I downloaded and bunzip'ed the latest firefox. But how do I install it now in place of the firefox I currently have ?
[23:01] <maximumbob_> DaZ`: ah. I thought there was a more elegant solution, like a networkmanager setting. :P
[23:02] <sdfh> danbhfive: okey, the only diffrent is the WM?
[23:02] <danbhfive> msds1502: install the [buntu]-restricted-extras
[23:02] <DaZ`> maximumbob_: maybe there is but i've never used networkmanager
[23:02] <DaZ`> and simple solutions are best
[23:02] <maximumbob_> indeed
[23:02] <albdum> Any1 knows why i can't boot 2 of my 4 sata drives at ubuntu server ?
[23:02] <maximumbob_> it will serve fine here, thanks
[23:02] <msds1502> danbhfive: would that be in the synaptic package manager?
[23:02] <Name141> is it possible to get drivers for the VooDoo3 3DFX?
[23:03] <Trijntje> is it possible to install wubi on a different harddisk than vista?
[23:03] <jonex_> __iron: i dont know how to install
[23:03] <danbhfive> sdfh: no, I think there is more than that, but here is the command I used: tasksel --task-packages xubuntu-desktop | grep synaptic
[23:03] <danbhfive> msds1502: yeah
[23:04] <__iron> what have you been do still now
[23:04] <HardDisk> Name141, just remember you won't get the same performance if you did a dual boot rather than wubi.
[23:05] <HardDisk> dual boot is the recommended option.
[23:05] <ishmandoo> i just installed ubuntu 9.04 and my wireless card is constantly disconnecting, does anyone know why that would be?
[23:05] <albdum> Any1 knows why i can't boot 2 of my 4 sata drives at ubuntu server ?
[23:05] <tamuka> How can I convert my home video files which are avi to DVD
[23:05] <HardDisk> ishmandoo, type dmesg in terminal and see what the error is.
[23:06] <erUSUL> !info devede
[23:07] <egc> can anyone suggest a development chan?  i have a question about developing w/ libxml2
[23:07] <lilcoconut> ok lol im back again :D with another problem
[23:07] <regeya> tamuka: yah; if your videos are some sort of internet-friendly format like divx, you can use devede; if they're dv files from your camera, you can edit 'em and export via kino
[23:07] <regeya> !kino
[23:08] <lilcoconut> i downloaded skype for ubuntu, but it says it has a problem with the audio playback.. does anybody know how to solve this?
[23:09] <ishmandoo> HardDisk: i'm not sure what i'm looking for
[23:09] <danbhfive> lilcoconut: try searching for: Perfect Pulse audio Setup
[23:10] <albdum> Any1 knows why i can't boot 2 of my 4 sata drives at ubuntu server ? :)
[23:10] <lilcoconut> danbhfive: where do i have to search for that?
[23:10] <albdum> mount i mean
[23:10] <erUSUL> !details | albdum
[23:10] <HardDisk> ishmandoo error messages at the end while you connect
[23:11] <sebsebseb> hi
[23:11] <albdum> why sdc1 and sdd1 are on fdisk -l but not at /dev OS: Ubuntu Server 9.04 32bit (At the same pc with ubuntu desktop 9.04 those two disks are fine). Also those 2 disk are connected throught pci-sata
[23:11] <albdum> :)
[23:11] <albdum> ubottu: any thoughts ?
[23:11] <pelmen> guys my buntu does not allow me to switch keyboard layouts anymore, until i remove and then readd layout
[23:12] <albdum> ahh ok :)
[23:12] <xim_> does the 9.10 release come with the cylender-cube plugin for compiz?
[23:12] <imag1narynumber> Hello, I need a bit of help.  I just updated Ubuntu Studio and now Firefox chokes on me
[23:12] <msds1502> is there a GUI/program other than GEdit for editing /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:12] <danbhfive> lilcoconut: World Wide Web: The great expanse of the interweb: Information Superhighway: The great interconnect: The goober cluster of data: Your local ISP connection:
[23:12] <sebsebseb> !9.10 |  xim_
[23:13] <imag1narynumber> msds1502 medit, nano
[23:13] <erUSUL> albdum: are they under /dev/disk/* ?
[23:13] <erUSUL> !editors | msds1502
[23:13] <ishmandoo> HardDisk: are all of the things i'm reading errors?
[23:14] <albdum> erUSUL :it seems so
[23:14] <albdum> erUSUL: mind take a look at the output ?
[23:14] <imag1narynumber> Hello, I need a bit of help.  I just updated Ubuntu Studio and now Firefox chokes on me.  One CPU runs up to 100% and FF hangs, everything else runs fine.
[23:14] <lilcoconut> danbhfive: ok i think i found it :P
[23:15] <HardDisk> ishmandoo no, but you should see some error outputs that are obvious
[23:15] <danbhfive> :)
[23:15] <HardDisk> like wifi, eth0 not restarting
[23:15] <erUSUL> albdum: but not in /dev/sd* ?? very weird
[23:15] <HardDisk> cannot reset mac address
[23:15] <HardDisk> etc
[23:15] <sebsebseb> imag1narynumber: yes stuff like that can happen,  which Firefox are you doing the default or  Shiretoko?
[23:15] <imag1narynumber> 3.5.1
[23:15] <albdum> erUSUL: it seems that sdc and sdd are in /dev and not sdc1 and sdd1
[23:15] <ishmandoo> HardDisk: i don't see anything like that...any other ideas?
[23:15] <mumblee> Hello, I am trying to get my bluetooth mouse to work in Jaunty, how can I do that?
[23:16] <albdum> erUSUL: at fdisk -l they show just fine
[23:16] <imag1narynumber> I followed the instructions I found to update to 3.5.1 on 8.10
[23:16] <albdum> erUSUL: mind take a look at the outputs ?
[23:16] <HardDisk> ishmandoo well it comes down to what chipset you have for the wifi
[23:16] <erUSUL> albdum: pastebinit
[23:16] <sebsebseb> imag1narynumber: oh your on 8.10 as well
[23:16] <HardDisk> and look at the ubuntu wiki page for it
[23:16] <imag1narynumber> Yeah
[23:16] <ishmandoo> HardDisk: how can i find that out?
[23:16] <sebsebseb> imag1narynumber: why not just use the one that came with 8.10?
[23:16] <lilcoconut> danbhfive: but i cant open it..
[23:16] <Phrozen_One> Can the Ubuntu livecd read HFS+ filesystems? (I beleive thats the filesystem OS X uses)
[23:17] <ActionParsnip> !hfs
[23:17] <erUSUL> !paste | albdum
[23:17] <imag1narynumber> An older version?
[23:17] <sebsebseb> imag1narynumber: yeah the version  that isn't shiretoko
[23:17] <danbhfive> lilcoconut: http://www.pulseaudio.org/wiki/PerfectSetup#Skype
[23:17] <albdum> ok thnx
[23:17] <HardDisk> ishmandoo one sec
[23:17] <desperdo> hello ppl urget help needed please. I have this annoying problem with compiz and video playback, I tried to follow some manuals to fix this prob but it got me a bigger problem now.  I need get back to the point before I made changes with the gstreamer-properties  command. what file does it edit ?
[23:17] <erUSUL> albdum: also do « ls -l /dev/disk/* »
[23:17] <danbhfive> lilcoconut: can you open that?
[23:17] <ishmandoo> HardDisk: thanks a lot
[23:17] <imag1narynumber> sebsebseb: Mine does not say Shiretoko, I updated FF through Mozilla
[23:18] <sebsebseb> imag1narynumber: so you got the version that is directly from them?
[23:18] <imag1narynumber> yes
[23:18] <ActionParsnip> imag1narynumber: if you hit help -> about
[23:18] <sebsebseb> imag1narynumber: and your getting the high CPU issue, oh dear
[23:18] <sebsebseb> imag1narynumber: I used to have  these issues myself before
[23:19] <sebsebseb> imag1narynumber: I ended up using  other browsers :)   now  Firefox/Shiretoko work well for me in Ubuntu
[23:19] <mumblee> Where can i find information on getting a bluetooth mouse to work in ubuntu jaunty?
[23:19] <HardDisk> ishmandoo, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WiFiHowTo  and
[23:19] <HardDisk> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[23:19] <imag1narynumber> ActionParsnip: I can't even do that right now
[23:19] <coz_> mumblee, try here   http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-setup-bluetooth-keyboard-and-mouse-in-ubuntu.html
[23:19] <imag1narynumber> ActionParsnip: Though it is 3.5.1
[23:19] <mumblee> ty coz
[23:19] <HardDisk> numbles bluetooth mice should work, but I would install blueman to get it to work
[23:20] <coz_> mumblee,  if that doesnt do it just google with the string    ubuntu bluetooth mouse
[23:20] <HardDisk> mumbles*
[23:20] <mumblee> blueman, ok
[23:20] <HardDisk> google for that, blueman bluetooth
[23:20] <desperdo> anyone ?
[23:20] <isonomy> I'm using Songbird in Ubuntu 9.04.  I have this annoying problem where a sticky window (small and blank) opens up with Songbird that I can't close. It's open on every desktop and just gets in the way. What's causing it and how do I get rid of it without also closing Songbird?
[23:20] <lilcoconut> danbhfive: ok thx...
[23:20] <mumblee> harddisk: ty
[23:20] <coz_> isonomy, it is probably a problem with songbird
[23:20] <sebsebseb> imag1narynumber: 8.10 yes I had those kind of issues with Firefox, the one that came with 8.10,   then I upgrade it to  9.04 alpha6  and  so on from there to the rc or whatever,  then I clean install   9.04 final and I don't have those issues anymore
[23:20] <msds1502> I can't hear any sound in Ubuntu, where should i start?
[23:21] <erUSUL> albdum: are the disks part of a raid volume ?
[23:21] <desperdo> hello ppl urget help needed please. I have this annoying problem with compiz and video playback, I tried to follow some manuals to fix this prob but it got me a bigger problem now.  I need get back to the point before I made changes with the gstreamer-properties  command. what file does it edit ?
[23:21] <isonomy> coz_, it only started happening after I added a bunch of add-ons. But I don't know what it is.
[23:21] <ishmandoo> HardDisk: it is supported and works "out of the box"
[23:21] <ActionParsnip> isonomy: try running it from terminal, see what it says
[23:21] <albdum> erUSUL: they were at the past but now i deleted the volume from silicon raid (the one after bios) and formated 1 of them
[23:21] <imag1narynumber> sebsebseb: I suppose I could try uninstalling and reinstalling FF
[23:22] <isonomy> ActionParsnip, alright.
[23:22] <erUSUL> albdum: but you did not repartitioned them ?
[23:22] <HardDisk> ishamandoo, strange, might want to check the mtp or something on the router
[23:22] <albdum> erUSUL: i did reformated the 1 of them (ntfs) the other one i didn't
[23:22] <bool> hi there, does anyone know an easy way to find out whether a picture is red? (commandline)
[23:23] <sebsebseb> imag1narynumber: is it worth upgrading 8.10 to 9.04?  Not as such,  is it worth  doing a clean install of Ubuntu when 9.10 is released?  Of course, espesaily with Ext4 as default file system, and clean installing being the only way to get the proper thing.  Reinstalling Firefox  and  even  using a new profile,  probably won't do that much good,  and you will probably have the issues again.   So for now your probably better off using another
[23:23] <albdum> erUSUL: when i dual boot with ubuntu desktop both of them mount... just when i boot at server (same pc) they don't mount
[23:23] <sebsebseb> browser.
[23:23] <erUSUL> albdum: reformated is not the same as repartition... if the disks are empty i will just make new partitions with gparted
[23:23] <vanita> I have a Toshiba 6100 with NVidia GForce4 420 Go and when I installed the 3d restricted drive the screen crapped out with weird squiggles and then fadded from grey to white
[23:23] <vanita> any ideas?
[23:23] <vanita> how about envyng?
[23:23] <erUSUL> albdum: :| then i dunno
[23:24] <sebsebseb> imag1narynumber: Galeon and Epiphany  are rather nice  alternative browsers.
[23:24] <imag1narynumber> sebsebseb: Thanks for your help
[23:24] <HardDisk> no one uses envyng anymore
[23:24] <albdum> erUSUL: the one of them i open gparted 1) deleted partion 2) format to ntfs again....
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> bool: you may get something with imagemagik, you may be able to sample some random pixels to test
[23:24] <isonomy> ActionParsnip, terminal doesn't reveal anything.
[23:24] <erUSUL> albdum: dm-uuid-DMRAID-isw_djdfhcejba_ServerRaid
[23:24] <xim_> is there a way through the console to manipulate the icons on your gnome panel bars?  like i want to write a script to automatically set it how i like it for when i upgrade linux
[23:24] <HardDisk> there is no need for it
[23:24] <albdum> erUSUL: what about it apt-get install ?
[23:24] <desperdo>  gstreamer-properties  command. what file does it edit ?
[23:24] <erUSUL> albdum: those entries make me think the diesk may still have raid metadata in its partitions table's
[23:24] <th0r> xim_: if you have a separate home partition the script isn't necessary
[23:25] <usr229> hello people... how can i create a simple interface that when right-clicked a file i can select an option like the "extract here" option... what i want is to pass the file i'm clicking as an argument to a program, but in that "right-click" interface mode... are there something like GUI creators or something that can help me out? thanks in advance
[23:25] <albdum> erUSUL: one of them i think so...the one i didn't format but the other one don't mount as welll :(
[23:25] <ActionParsnip> isonomy: then you will need to run it in some safe mode and disable plugins til you get itstable
[23:25] <th0r> xim_: or if you to a complete backup of your home directory it will save among other things the panel layouts
[23:25] <sebsebseb> imag1narynumber: so what you going to do?
[23:25] <fartbooger> Hi, for some reason my computer thinks that another computer on the network is 192.168.1.2 but really it is 192.168.1.3 does ubuntu cache this kind of thing and if so is there a way for me to flush it?
[23:25] <isonomy> ActionParsnip, alright. I'll figure it out.
[23:25] <HardDisk> bool im curious in what circumstance do you need to do that task?
[23:25] <iceroot> is there and advantage using /etc/cron.daily/script instead of crontab -e? (if running as root)
[23:26] <th0r> usr229: don't know about nautilus but that is easily done in thunar
[23:26] <jdu> bool, if it is a png, you can use the sng program
[23:26] <albdum> erUSUL: also the raid was before i install server edition so the one i format ntfs again should mount
[23:26] <usr229> thunar
[23:26] <albdum> erUSUL: but again in desktop same pc they both mount fine
[23:26] <erUSUL> albdum: if the disks are empty do (in gparted) Device>Create partition table
[23:26] <usr229> th0r: what is thunar?
[23:26] <th0r> usr229: thunar is the file manager for xfce
[23:26] <imag1narynumber> sebsebseb: Hope I can find a better answer.  Maybe use another in the meanwhile.
[23:26] <sebsebseb> imag1narynumber: by  the way Flash could be causing your high  Firefox CPU usage
[23:27] <sebsebseb> imag1narynumber: a better answer hmm
[23:27] <albdum> erUSUL: the one of them isn't it is full i try that in the other one
[23:27] <jethro> how can i update to firefox 3.5 in ubuntu 8.10 64bit
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> !info thunar | usr229
[23:27] <usr229> oh ok, maybe there's a similar way to do it in nautilus then
[23:27] <iceroot> jethro: sudo apt-get install firefox-3.5
[23:27] <erUSUL> albdum: but again in desktop same pc they both mount fine <<< that may be becouse in desktop you do not have dmraid installed.... (just guessing)
[23:27] <imag1narynumber> sebsebseb: But I can't get just one page up.  It tries to load iGoogle and hangs
[23:27] <iceroot> jethro: ah sorry have not read 8.10
[23:27] <albdum> erUSUL: but again how can both be fine at desktop maybe server misses some drivers or anything ?
[23:27] <sebsebseb> imag1narynumber: ok this is your better answer maybe,  if you have many tabs open with  some of them having Flash,   that may be what's  causing your high CPU usage
[23:27] <usr229> th0r: so how do you do it in thunar?
[23:27] <desperdo> HELP PLEASE :)  when typing in terminal gstreamer-properties,  what file does it edit ?
[23:28] <ActionParsnip> jethro: its installed as a seperate application, so you will have 3.0.11 and 3.5 installed
[23:28] <VCoolio> usr229: you can make your own nautilus-scripts too, but thunar is more lightweight and actions are also easily added; if you want nautilus I can help
[23:28] <imag1narynumber> sebsebseb :It's just the one page
[23:28] <sebsebseb> imag1narynumber: which page?
[23:28] <erUSUL> desperdo: i think it stores that on gconf not in any file
[23:28] <albdum> erUSUL: hmm i will do that (partion table) now and i will keep you updated ok ?
[23:28] <xim_> th0r: hmmm.  ok ill do it that way then thanks
[23:28] <imag1narynumber> sebsebseb: It's ever since I updated when I got home.  New kernel, headers, etc.
[23:28] <imag1narynumber> sebsebseb: iGoogle
[23:28] <th0r> usr229: Edit-Configure custom actions. you can define what file types or extensions the menu choice will appear for, and what is done
[23:28] <usr229> and thanks ActionParsnip
[23:28] <erUSUL> albdum: you may want to check the dmraid theory too
[23:29] <th0r> xim_: make sure you get the hidden directories in the backup
[23:29] <usr229>  VCoolio: how can i create a simple interface that when right-clicked a file i can select an option like the "extract here" option... what i want is to pass the file i'm clicking as an argument to a program, but in that "right-click" interface mode... are there something like GUI creators or something that can help me out? thanks in advance... in nautilus
[23:29] <sebsebseb> imag1narynumber: ok weird, that should work
[23:29] <jethro> iceroot "E: Couldn't find package firefox-3.5
[23:29] <jethro> "
[23:29] <erUSUL> albdum: aptitude search dmraid
[23:29] <albdum> erUSUL: what can i do with dmraid should i install it on server ?
[23:29] <jethro> action that is ok with me
[23:29] <usr229> ok thanks th0r
[23:29] <xim_> th0r: right, ill have to delete some of them though for the upgrade or if some software doesnt get reinstalled or has different configuration parameters
[23:29] <ActionParsnip> jethro: sudo apt-get update; apt-cache search firefox | grep 3.5
[23:30] <desperdo> erUSUL:  so where can I restore the properties to their original state ?
[23:30] <erUSUL> albdum: no; check if the desktop has it installed if its not installed remove it in the server
[23:30] <jethro> actionparsnip that looks like it is working
[23:30] <Raydiation> i just got a kernel update with dep problems
[23:30] <VCoolio> usr229: not in gui, and you can also install nautilus-actions which will give a more gui-like approach; otherwise write your own script and put it in ~/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts and make it executable
[23:30] <Raydiation> do you know about it?
[23:30] <albdum> erUSUL: ok i will do both now keep you posted...
[23:30] <th0r> xim_: if software doesn't get installed the hidden folders won't hurt anything. If the software upgrade requires new or changed configs it should happen in the upgrade
[23:31] <th0r> xim_: if you upgrade doing a fresh install consider making a separate partition for /home....future upgrades will be painless
[23:31] <usr229> VCoolio: ok i'll try it
[23:31] <VCoolio> usr229: files are replaced with standard like "$NAUTILUS_SCRIPT_SELECTED_URIS"
[23:31] <jethro> actionparsnip that did something but it didnt install firefox
[23:31] <xim_> th0r: thanks alot thats very helpful little details that otherwise would have caused me stress
[23:31] <erUSUL> albdum: i do not find anything relevant in gconf-editor... so maybe is not gconf...
[23:31] <donnyw> Could anyone point me in the direction of a good Java development channel?
[23:32] <erUSUL> desperdo: i do not find anything relevant in gconf-editor... so maybe is not gconf...
[23:32] <erUSUL> albdum: sorry that was not for you
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> jethro: it won't, just shows you the package names available that contain the word firefox and 3.5
[23:32] <VCoolio> usr229: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NautilusScriptsHowto
[23:32] <cooper77z> When I look at my tube monitor and then look at my whit screen irc everything flashes pink!
[23:32] <MrNoodlehead> hello everyone
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> jethro: you can then install one of those
[23:33] <jethro> actionparsnip any of them?
[23:33] <usr229> thanks VCoolio
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> jethro: ideally firefox-3.5
[23:33] <xim_> th0r: should i make the home partition ext3?
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> jethro: if you dont see that then you need an extra repo
[23:33] <Dr_Willis> xim_:  ext3, or ext4 if you want to be cutting edge. :)
[23:33] <cooper77z> what would be a good refresh setting to reduce the pink flash optical effect?
[23:34] <ActionParsnip> !ff3.5
[23:34] <desperdo> how do I change gstreamer no xv without using gsteramer properties command ?
[23:34] <xim_> Dr_Willis: lol thx
[23:35] <imag1narynumber> Firefox opens in safe mode.
[23:35] <donnyw> Could anyone point me in the direction of a good Java development channel?
[23:35] <th0r> xim_: I have been using ext4 for everything for about six months without problems, and ext4 is going to be the default in 9.10, or so I have heard
[23:35] <ActionParsnip> jethro: http://ubuntumanual.org/posts/183/install-or-upgrade-to-firefox-3-5-rc2-in-ubuntu-karmic-jaunty-intrepid-hardy
[23:36] <th0r> xim_: but either ext3 or ext4 would work fine
[23:36] <Dr_Willis> main issue ive had with ext4 is that some live cds/resuce cd's dont support it yet.. but thats slowly changeing.
[23:37] <HardDisk> that's because it depends on the kernel version the distro livecd is on
[23:37] <ActionParsnip> donnyw: try #java
[23:37] <mechtech> how can I browse the internet from command line?
[23:37] <ScottG> I can't get X forwarding to work. Could someone help me out? When I ssh in with -X I get this message before my first prompt: "
[23:37] <ScottG> Warning: untrusted X11 forwarding setup failed: xauth key data not generated." "Warning: No xauth data; using fake authentication data for X11 forwarding."
[23:37] <sebsebseb> mechtech: lynx and links  and there's another one as well I think
[23:38] <HardDisk> mechtech, lynx
[23:38] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: I was thinking that to
[23:38] <donnyw> ActionParsnip: That doesn't seem to be an actual channel, or at least there's no one there
[23:38] <ActionParsnip> mechtech: sure, install lynx
[23:38] <HardDisk> !lynx
[23:38] <th0r> mechtech: lynx
[23:38] <jethro> actionparsnip i am not sure what to download from that site
[23:38] <[TiZ]> Hi there. Where can I find a Linux 2.6.30 package for Jaunty?
[23:38] <HardDisk> [TiZ] you make one.
[23:38] <mechtech> sebsebseb: HardDisk: ActionParsnip: thanks for the prompt replies guys!  and th0r
[23:38] <mechtech> !lynx
[23:39] <ActionParsnip> jethro: if 3.5 isnt in your repos then you will need to add one of those repos
[23:39] <sebsebseb> mechtech: np  and Lynx and such can be pretty fun
[23:39] <jethro> actionparsnip how do i add a repo?
[23:39] <HardDisk> !repository
[23:39] <mechtech> sebsebseb: yeah...just wanted to see what's up
[23:39] <ActionParsnip> jethro: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.lst
[23:39] <ActionParsnip> jethro: paste the 2 lines for your release, save the file
[23:40] <xcv> !log
[23:40] <[TiZ]> HardDisk: That's probably not going to work. I'm helping a friend who doesn't have wireless, and I know that 2.6.30 has good wireless drivers. I would direct him somewhere where he can download the package onto portable storage and then install it onto his afflicted computer.
[23:40] <nannes> this is a test  :P
[23:40] <Saruji_> hello, quick question, what is the command to check disk space in terminal?
[23:40] <HardDisk> [TiZ] then compile it for him.
[23:40] <th0r> Saruji_: df
[23:40] <Forza4Life> i have a slight issue   i have an ATI all in wonder video card that i have just installed, it runs dual monitors..the install of the ati restricted driver went ok, as far as i can tell, but when i try to go to system>prefs>display, the display windows that should pop up letting me configure the monitors does not open or freezes up, right now the card seems to be working fine, but im running the monitors in clone mode and would like an extended desktop
[23:40] <Forza4Life> ...anyone have any ideas?
[23:40] <[TiZ]> HardDisk: I wouldn't think that I can. I'm on Arch.
[23:40] <ActionParsnip> jethro: you will need to add the key too, it is described on the page, then ryn: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install firefox-3.5
[23:41] <Saruji_> th0r thank you so much
[23:41] <HardDisk> ah.
[23:41] <HardDisk> [TiZ] you would only really need to compile the module he needs.
[23:41] <Kellerman> ehlo
[23:41] <HardDisk> leho
[23:41] <jethro> actionparsnip i got something called ubuntuzilla, will that work?
[23:42] <desperdo> after I changed a few options in gstreamer roperties I have no video at all, how do I restore the original gstreamer properties ?
[23:42] <Forza4Life> canyone help me with this tech issue
[23:42] <HardDisk> I would have just installed ubuntu-tweak
[23:42] <HardDisk> enabled the repositories there
[23:42] <HardDisk> checked the apps
[23:42] <HardDisk> voila
[23:42] <FloodBot3> HardDisk: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:42] <Kellerman> gg
[23:43] <HardDisk> I did that deliberately floodbot :)
[23:43] <albdum> erUSUL: same thing sdc1 nor sdd1 appear at /dev :(
[23:43] <ctmjr> Forza4Life: it should have installed the catalyst control center with the drivers look in accessories in the main menu
[23:43] <msds1502> how do I add multiple Windows entries into GRUB (do I need chainloader?) and please don't !grub :(
[23:43] <albdum> erUSUL: unistalled dmraid from server
[23:44] <HardDisk> msd sudo gedit /boot/menu/menu.lst
[23:44] <[TiZ]> HardDisk: Ah, I see. Well, I found a place with some packages. Thanks anyways. :)
[23:44]  * independent ...
[23:44] <HardDisk> [TiZ] just be careful.
[23:44] <Kellerman> /boot/grub/menu.lst
[23:44] <HardDisk> grrrr
[23:44] <HardDisk> /boot/grub
[23:44] <HardDisk> yea sorry
[23:44] <HardDisk> didn't realize i typed menu twice
[23:45] <funkyHat> Forza4Life: you might need to install and use ATi's own display configuration program, I'm not sure
[23:45] <msds1502> HardDisk: i have to used gksudo for some reason, but do I eed a chain loader? or can i just do rootverify (HD#,partition) and makeactive?
[23:46] <HardDisk> I dont see why you need a chainloader.
[23:46] <msds1502> plus title
[23:46] <spO> hi
[23:46] <spO> why don't you guys use windows instead of ubuntu?
[23:46] <HardDisk> just rootverify is sufficient
[23:46] <ActionParsnip> jethro: i don't know what that is
[23:46] <HardDisk> sp0 we do
[23:46] <spO> why do you guys use ubuntu?
[23:46] <funkyHat> Forza4Life: gksu programname
[23:46] <Evet> Do you suggest a hosting firm to purchase dedicated or vps, located in Germany?
[23:46] <HardDisk> because this is an ubuntu channel
[23:47] <HardDisk> sp0 you can ask the same thing in #redhat, #fedora etc
[23:47] <Forza4Life> funky   may i whisper
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[23:47] <spO> hi
[23:47] <imag1narynumber> 3.5.1/quit
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> sp0: i can use any OS, i chat and browse so I use an open source OS. I use gentoo for my file server and openBSD for my router
[23:47] <spO> how come you guys use ubuntu and not just windows?
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> sp0: its a tool for a job
[23:47] <HardDisk> sp0's a regular troll
[23:48] <HardDisk> :)
[23:48] <ActionParsnip> sp0: windows costs and does what i can do in ubuntu for free
[23:48] <ctmjr> !troll | sp0
[23:48] <HardDisk> sp0 it plays my porn perfectly
[23:48] <ActionParsnip> HardDisk: i eat trolls for breakfast
[23:48] <sebsebseb> spO: ,because I can do proper  computer usage with Ubuntu :)   I can't with Windows
[23:48] <Forza4Life> ok   i opened up ati's CCC and it says i need to enable xinerama   how do i do that
[23:48] <HardDisk> hehe Action :)
[23:48] <spO> actionparsnip, can you use ubuntu to play mkv files and lots of media files well? like   windows home cinema can with core player decoder?
[23:48] <HardDisk> sp0 yes
[23:48] <jpds> spO: Yes.
[23:48] <ActionParsnip> sp0: yes, vlc plays it perfectly
[23:49] <xcv> would like some help locating an app i think i have installed or any log entries for invoking httpd
[23:49] <sebsebseb> spO: there's also a Windows media centre alternative
[23:49] <bruce89> mythtv
[23:49] <desperdo> isnt this supposed to be a help channel ?
[23:49] <ActionParsnip> sp0: everything i would do in windows, i can do in linux so I save myself the license costs
[23:49] <msds1502> too bad my sound card hasn't work in ubuntu since 2007 :'(
[23:49] <HardDisk> other than mythtv
[23:49] <spO> it doesn't have coreavc decoder, so it canont play as great as home cinema can
[23:49] <mechtech> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/235494/
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[23:49] <spO> windows has coreavc decoder support, have you ever tried that?
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[23:50] <spO> what is that website he keeps on spamming?
[23:50] <HardDisk> weak bots sp0
[23:50] <ActionParsnip> sp0: what is a coreavc decoder?
[23:50] <HardDisk> Action its nothing important.
[23:50] <bruce89> ActionParsnip: it's some non-free AVC codec
[23:50] <spO> it makes playing mkv/x264  fi;les a lot faster,
[23:50] <HardDisk> which hardly anyone uses
[23:50] <ActionParsnip> sp0: i can convert from any codec to any other codec using mplayer
[23:51] <HardDisk> except for anime viewers i believe
[23:51] <spO> without coreavc, i think my computer would play mkv/x264 too slowly to a point where i get lots of out of syncs
[23:51] <bruce89> or ffmpeg or gst-launch-0.10
[23:51] <UnderSampled> does anybody know what the "nolapic" boot option does?
[23:51] <ActionParsnip> sp0: for free using ffmpeg an mencoder and for free
[23:51] <jpds> spO: orly.
[23:51] <HardDisk> well my anime plays fine
[23:51] <HardDisk> on an acer aspire one
[23:51] <HardDisk> in ubuntu
[23:51] <spO> harddisk, you use vlc?
[23:51] <HardDisk> yea
[23:51] <ActionParsnip> sp0: i can compile my codecs and player so they are optomised for specifically my cpu, so they will run faster than any 32bit generic compile on windows
[23:52] <mechtech> ?
[23:52] <dabj01> ActionParsnip: that's takin it pretty far
[23:52] <HardDisk> ActionParsnip you need to write a guide for that :)
[23:52] <ActionParsnip> dabj01: perfectly true
[23:53] <spO> actionparsnip,   coreavc probably works faster because it makes the size of the window smaller without changing the resolution.... i don' tknow how it does it but it makes everything faster..
[23:53] <mechtech> can you guys see my posts?
[23:53] <Forza4Life> ok    can someone walk a new user thru setting up extended desktop in ati CCC
[23:53] <Pricey> mechtech: Yes, we can now.
[23:53] <Forza4Life> yes mech
[23:53] <msds1502> first hard drive and first partition would be (hd0,0) ?
[23:53] <mechtech> ok...someone please see my paste: http://paste.ubuntu.com/235494/
[23:54] <spO> oh, i guess coreavc has been ported to linux
[23:54] <spO> https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/CoreAVC
[23:54] <TwoToneSpirit> Is there a separate channel for X?  If not, I'm looking for an X expert.  :-)  I'm wondering if two users, on two different computers, can use the same X server on a single computer, thus sharing the environment, seeing each others' mouse pointers, etc.
[23:54] <ActionParsnip> sp0: all programs under linux can be optomised and modified to be more effieicient and "faster", you can remove and add functionality if needed, the standard installs are ok but they can be tweaked as needed
[23:54] <jpds> TwoToneSpirit: #ubuntu-x
[23:54] <ActionParsnip> sp0: most windows software is proprietary so falls short ni this area
[23:54] <jpds> TwoToneSpirit: But, yeah, you can use VNC.
[23:54] <spO> "An open source project named CoreAVC-For-Linux hosted at Google Code patches the loader code in the open source media player program MPlayer and allows it to use the Windows only CoreAVC DirectShow filter in Free Software environments. It does not include CoreAVC, but simply allows MPlayer to make use of it. Th"
[23:55] <spO> when it means it is for linux, that means that you have to do some modifications to make it for ubuntu?
[23:55] <bruce89> spO: I saw that CoreCodec were going to release a GStreamer plugin
[23:55] <ActionParsnip> sp0: ubuntu is a distribution of linux based on debian
[23:55] <TwoToneSpirit> jpds: The problem with VNC is that the other user can't 1) have their own cursor and mouse pointer and 2) drag windows to another workspace to use them herself for a little while
[23:55] <bruce89> but that was some time ago
[23:55] <Name141> HardDisk: huh?
[23:55] <spO> i see
[23:55] <bucky> mechtech: why are you downloading something as sudo?
[23:55] <Name141> HardDisk: I was going to install Ubuntu, not Wubi
[23:55] <mechtech> sp0: ubuntu is linux...there are many distributions, ubuntu is one of them
[23:56] <HardDisk> Name, you said wubi
[23:56] <Name141> HardDisk: but I want the VooDoo3 3DFX drivers (if there is any)
[23:56] <bucky> mechtech: (2) http://links.sourceforge.net/download/ is an invalid URL that's why you get a 404
[23:56] <HardDisk> Name, its already in the kernel
[23:56] <Name141> HardDisk "is it possible to get drivers for the VooDoo3 3DFX?"
[23:56] <mechtech> bucky: typed it by mistake
[23:56] <Name141> Is what I asked
[23:56] <Dr_Willis> TwoToneSpirit:   you could run a seperate vnc session for each user. :) but that may be a bit too confusing. 2 pointers on same desktop is a hack i saw somewhere.. but it was a gimmic i recall.
[23:56] <HardDisk> Name, in the kernel already.
[23:56] <ActionParsnip> mechtech: ubuntu is not linux, the kernel is linux, the rest round it is a distribution
[23:56] <mechtech> bucky: I got a 403...is that the same?
[23:56] <bucky> mechtech: (3) do you know how to cut and paste?
[23:56] <Forza4Life> can anyone friggin help me
[23:57] <Name141> HardDisk: OK.  So I will not have to install anything different like if I had a nVidia ?
[23:57] <mechtech> ActionParsnip: my bad
[23:57] <ActionParsnip> sp0: any other questions?
[23:57] <Forza4Life> im gettin frustrated
[23:57] <spO> ubuntu is very user friendly with its gui and self installing of everything,  it is very different from earlier version of redhat or slackware linux used to be, and it is very different in userfriendliness than *bsd flavors....... why is it so userfriendly or easy accessable rather than mostly console based like freebsd or openbsd?
[23:57] <Armageddon> i would like to compile evolution manually but i have a set of libraries i can't find, can anyone help with that ?
[23:57] <HardDisk> Name, exactly
[23:57] <mechtech> bucky: http://paste.ubuntu.com/235494/
[23:57] <bruce89> mechtech: 403 is redirect I think
[23:57] <Forza4Life> i need help getting extended display to work in ati CCC
[23:57] <jpds> Armageddon: apt-get build-dep evolution
[23:58] <ActionParsnip> sp0: i find it no less friendly than any other distro, sus and mandriva have nice installers too
[23:58] <Name141> HardDisk: I imagine a lower more min. install should take place for such a system than GNOME ?  It's a p2 450 MHz, 10 GB hard drive
[23:58] <bucky> mechtech: which file are you trying to get?  there is no file on the end of http://links.sourceforge.net/download/
[23:58] <Armageddon> jpds: that didn't help
[23:58] <TwoToneSpirit> Dr_Willis: My dream really is to just have one gnome workspace that is shared between two computers - I'd drag stuff there to leave for my girlfriend and she'd do the same for me.  Or we'd work together on that workspace.
[23:58] <Name141> HardDisk: Such as Xubuntu?
[23:58] <Forza4Life> can anyone help please?
[23:58] <ActionParsnip> Name141: how much ram?
[23:58] <HardDisk> Name, I would suggest that as well, or even Fluxbuntu
[23:58] <Name141> ActionParsnip: 320 MBs
[23:58] <ActionParsnip> !ask | Forza4Life
[23:58] <mechtech> bucky: just wanted to try links2...never used a text based commandline browser before...for *learning*
[23:59] <HardDisk> Name, xubuntu will be ok, you could try fluxbuntu even
[23:59] <Dr_Willis> TwoToneSpirit: I doubt if that would be as useable as you think.. :)
[23:59] <Forza4Life> ok....can anyone help me set up an extended display using ati's CCC
[23:59] <HardDisk> Name, or gOS
[23:59] <spO> out of installation box, it uses gui based mostly instead of mostly a console based like many *bsd flavors,  how come?  was debian like that when it developed always?
[23:59] <ActionParsnip> Name141: ubuntu will run ok, xubuntu will make the system more responsive
[23:59] <Name141> HardDisk/ActionParsnip : What about this "lxde" ?
[23:59] <Dr_Willis> TwoToneSpirit:  just make a directory you both can access. :) but you mean dragging 'applications' thats not going to be very easially done.
[23:59] <Armageddon> jpds: i need libraries i can't find on google, any idea ?
[23:59] <HardDisk> gOS, is basically ubuntu with enlightenment
[23:59] <bucky> mechtech: sudo apt-get install links2
[23:59] <Name141> I have heard about
[23:59] <ActionParsnip> Name141: you could install ubuntu then install LXDE for responsivenes
[23:59] <spO> is the gui environment even c++ ?
[23:59] <Name141> OK.
[23:59] <Name141> I don't have a Xubuntu disk anyay
[23:59] <HardDisk> Name, I havent touched lxde, so I can't say.