[00:18] <BluesKaj> trying out kvirc , very colourful but more user friendly than the last time I tried it
[00:26] <beyondcr> dose anyone know how to make a shortcut to a console command
[00:27] <StupidWeasel> Making a shortcut to a shellscript would do what you want beyondcr.
[00:28] <StupidWeasel> Just add the command(s) you want to run as part of the script.
[00:28] <beyondcr> is there a easy way to do that
[00:29] <beyondcr> sorry im new at this
[00:29] <ethicator> ia new too
[00:30] <StupidWeasel> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Beginners/BashScripting
[00:31] <StupidWeasel> That should cover the basics =3
[00:31] <beyondcr> ty
[00:31] <StupidWeasel> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Beginners/BashScripting#Scripting <-- will take you right to what you want.
[00:33] <StupidWeasel> I'm going to go get my coffee fix, but if you have any problems just ask in the channel and someone should be able to help.
[00:34] <StupidWeasel> If it's a little slow in here, you can try asking in the #ubuntu channel, as it's the same for both ubuntu and kubuntu.
[00:42] <jeiworth_> hi y'all, say, anyone else here has a problem with the display of the icons from the desktop folder in the desktop plasmoid? i just see them as preview of textfile, if i chose to show the home folder, everything is fine...
[00:49] <marcee> Hello everyone, i need to execute a lynx and close it after it finish loading the website. Which flag should I need?
[00:57] <Walzmyn> i'm getting an error when trying to install ia32-libs from the repo
[01:12] <Walzmyn> Anybody home?
[01:22] <Zxcvb> I tried installing the 2.6.30.3 kernel package from http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.30.3/ but when I go to install the nvidia kernel module, I get an error because the kernel was compiled with gcc 4.2 but I have 4.3
[01:23] <Zxcvb> any idea where I can get a working 2.6.30.3 kernel package short of manually compiling it?
[01:31] <el> Zxcvb: You could set CC=gcc-4.2 while installing the nvidia drivers.
[01:32] <el> Can I somehow set two different repeat rates for two keyboards?
[01:33] <yesitjustme> i tried connecting my hdtv on my computer to use as a monitor but is not displaying, on my pc i use a vga 15 pin male to male cable what could be wrong?
[01:37] <UO> How do I images my dual-booting XP and Kubuntu 9.04 ext4 filesystem?
[01:50] <Zxcvb> has anyone used the kernel packages from http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.30.3/ ?
[01:53] <jasa> Nope, 2.6.30+ should be faster on server usage but yet i turned down to 8.0.42 Hoary from Fedora 11.
[01:54] <jasa> Usually good site to check benchmarks on new kernels and drivers is "www.phoronix.com"
[01:55] <Zxcvb> jasa: other than that site, where else can you get 2.6.30+ kernel packages?
[01:56] <jasa> Zxcvb: Well those new drivers usually everyone compiles themselves, like dvb-api and sound drivers and some small bug fixes.
[01:56] <Zxcvb> jasa: because using the package from http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.30.3/, the nvidia driver install gives a "gcc version check failed" error
[01:57] <jasa> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_2631_rc2&num=2 (Early 2.6.31 benchmark)
[01:58] <Zxcvb> jasa: I am not doing it for performance, I want the updated drivers
[01:58] <jasa> You could try those new beta drivers from nvidia, or what is the newest always.
[01:59] <Zxcvb> jasa: no, the video4linux drivers for the wintv usb tuner
[01:59] <jasa> Zxcvb: WinTV-CI module ? Does it work in linux yet ?
[02:00] <Zxcvb> jasa: it's an xc5000, but the analog tuner doesn't work with 2.6.28
[02:00] <el> Zxcvb: You should not try to get a kernel that is compiled with 4.3 - Instead you should try to get the nvidia kernel module to compile with 4.2.
[02:00] <el> First, check whether you have gcc-4.2 installed.
[02:01] <Zxcvb> but gcc --version is gcc (Ubuntu 4.3.3-5ubuntu4) 4.3.3
[02:02] <el> type "which gcc-4.2"
[02:02] <Zxcvb> nothing
[02:02] <jasa> Zxcvb: Nods, i have the troublesome HVR-4000 that does indeed work now, yet if i could get some good cccam share lines or would get that CI module and get Viasat shared to my comp from other room. -.-
[02:02] <el> If that gives you no output then "sudo apt-get install gcc-4.2"
[02:02] <el> And then try "sudo CC=gcc-4.2 ./NVIDIA-blah.run"
[02:03] <Zxcvb> isn't gcc 4.3 the default for jaunty?
[02:04] <jasa> gcc (GCC) 4.2.4 (Ubuntu 4.2.4-1ubuntu4) here.
[02:05] <el> You said your kernel was compiled with 4.2
[02:05] <jasa> Yeah, you need to compile both kernel and modules with same gcc.
[02:06] <Zxcvb> also, how would I download a bunch of packages and all their dependancies (other than those already on the install dvd) for later use?
[02:06] <jasa> For later use, use some ftp mirroring tool to download those locally ?
[02:08] <el> I'm quite sure there is a simpler way, but you could use apt-get's --download-only option and then copy the downloaded packages from your apt cache.
[02:08] <el> Btw I have a question too: Can I somehow set two different repeat rates for two keyboards?
[02:09] <Zxcvb> el: the only catch is that the target system is 32 bit (netbook with newer atheros card) and my current system is x86_64
[02:09] <jasa> el: i think xinput command with specified pci id could do that.
[02:09] <Zxcvb> el: I guess the easiest way would be to install the 32 bit kubuntu in a virtual machine
[02:13] <Zxcvb> jasa: wierd, attempting to remove gcc-4.3-base and gcc-4.3 would remove the whole system here
[02:14] <jasa> Zxcvb: Yeah i hate depencies like that, i would have shot down libasound too and compiled new one, but doesn't like that.
[02:14] <el> Well why would you want to remove gcc-4.3?
[02:15] <el> Why don't you just install gcc-4.2 in addition?
[02:15] <jasa> Zxcvb: And if you accidently do something like that with recompiling you need to reinstall package from apt-get. -.-
[02:15] <jasa> Zxcvb: I would guess there would be package called "compat-gcc-42" there.
[02:17] <Zxcvb> jasa: what arch are you on?
[02:18] <jasa> i386 or is that i586 ... well basic one still cause everything hasn't been transformed to x86_64 world yet.
[02:18] <Zxcvb> that might be it then, I am on x86_64 and gcc-4.3 is on the cd
[02:19] <Zxcvb> is it possible to have modules compiled with a different gcc than the kernel?
[02:20] <jasa> I would consider not, they would have those undefined symbol issues or similiar things in them if trying to load.
[02:20] <jasa> But i might be wrong on that.
[02:23] <jasa> Well you could install newest nvidia drivers from medibuntu repo too if you wouldn't like to compile, they work atleast.
[02:24] <el> Did you try what I said? Install gcc-4.2 alongside 4.3 and use CC=gcc-4.2 while running nvidia installer?
[02:30] <Zxcvb> el: not yet
[02:32] <el_> Oh I hate this damn Atheros chipset. It just disconnects randomly...
[02:33] <henry_> I know what you're saying my computera has an Atheros chipset
[02:34] <Zxcvb> el_: which one?
[02:36] <el_> AR928X
[02:36] <Zxcvb> el_: netbook?
[02:37] <el_> Notebook ;)
[02:39] <Zxcvb> you wouldn't happen to know how to tell what gcc version modules were compiled with, would you?
[02:39] <el_> cat /proc/version
[02:46] <kub1> kinfocenter isn´t included automatically in KU 904 - shouldn´t it be??? Are any of the KUbuntu developers in this channel, & reading this message??
[02:51] <BluesKaj> kub1, right click on the kmenu and choose menu editor , that's about as close it gets to kinfocenter
[02:52] <jeff___> i wish if a package installing needd you to answer a question, it would be saved to last
[02:53] <joshua__> hi folks, whats the difference if i install kubuntu via kubuntu-dvd or desktop-cd ?
[02:53] <jeff___> joshua__: the media
[02:54] <joshua__> jeff___: so nothing else? exact same apps etc?
[02:55] <joshua__> jeff___: ?
[02:56] <BluesKaj> joshua__,  https://wiki.kubuntu.org/FAQ
[02:56] <jeff___> joshua__: i would assumn that the DVD has more apps on it, but i dunna
[02:56] <joshua__> thx
[02:58] <joshua__> BluesKaj: i dont see how that answers the question
[03:02] <BluesKaj> well, sorry, try google for dvd releases vs cds
[03:04] <BluesKaj> joshua__, I think the dvd has more basic apps so the install doesn't have to go on the internet to the repos to being all the dependencies along etc
[03:05] <BluesKaj> being = bring
[03:07] <joshua__> can anyone please tell me where i can find md5sums for the isos?
[03:09] <kub1> Are any KU developers here?
[03:12] <kub1> Anyone here?
[03:12] <Pici> kub1: Kubuntu developers are in #kubuntu-devel
[03:13] <null> Question:  Does the ubuntu install CD offer full hard drive encryption on installation?  using dm-crypt?
[03:19] <megumi> This is going to sound stupid, but how does one move things around in the panel?
[03:28] <kub1> eth0 has stopped working on my desktop box. ifconfig eth0 says unkonwn interface.  kinfocenter shows no eth0 .  Network manager shows ¨new wired connection - never used¨ - any suggestions?? thx
[03:28] <el_> megumi: In KDE4 you have to click the rightmost button in you panel (the half-circle shaped one)
[03:29] <megumi> It says nothing about moving icons.
[03:29] <null> click and drag
[03:30] <megumi> null: Does not work clicking and dragging.
[03:30] <null> click and drag harder, with passion
[03:31] <megumi> null: Nothing.
[03:31] <megumi> nevermind
[03:31] <megumi> I have to click the button L mentioned.
[03:31] <megumi> el
[03:31] <megumi> Is there any way to install kde3?
[03:32] <megumi> I hate this jkde4
[03:32] <el_> Yeah me too
[03:32] <megumi> Is there any way possible other than compiling from source?
[03:33] <kub1> What is the name for the people who create the KDE system for Ubuntu - Packagers? Developers? Other???
[03:33] <megumi> I dunno but they need to take kde4 back for a while
[03:33] <null> poopieheads
[03:34] <null> just do a sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop-environment
[03:34] <megumi> But I want Kde3
[03:34] <megumi> Not gnome.
[03:34] <null> nope
[03:34] <null> you can have xfce tho
[03:34] <megumi> Gnome and XFce do not do it for me.
[03:34] <null> sorry
[03:34] <jeff___> Xfce > Gnome
[03:34] <null> kde4, gnome, or xfce
[03:34] <megumi> KDE 3 was superior.
[03:35] <null> yeah well it's old
[03:35] <null> get with the times
[03:35] <kub1> Are there any KUbuntu develpers here?
[03:35] <null> your feedback matterz 0
[03:35] <megumi> That is very supportive
[03:36] <megumi> Kde 3 may be old but at least the bugs were not as many and it didnt take 3 actions to move an icon in the panel.
[03:45] <el_> Can I somehow set two different repeat rates for two keyboards?
[04:04] <marchou> hi, is the resizing smooth solved in 4.3 RC3?
[04:10] <marchou> hi, is the resizing smooth solved in 4.3 RC3?
[04:18] <Onyx> I just installed Kubuntu on my laptop and I'm having trouble getting Network Manager to connect to my WPA2-PSK network... I've got wpasupplicant installed.  Any ideas?
[04:25] <darthanubis> Onyx: try again
[04:25] <darthanubis> marchou: no
[04:25] <Onyx> darthanubis: anything helpful?
[04:26] <darthanubis> I answered you repeat question. What else you want?
[04:27] <marchou> darthanubis and there is any plan for solving it
[04:28] <marchou> ?
[04:28] <darthanubis> isn't there always a plan for solving a bug?
[04:30] <marchou> for solving the resize widgets for too look smooth
[04:31] <marchou> darthanubis for solving the resize widgets for too look smooth
[04:31] <darthanubis> I sawit the first time
[04:31] <darthanubis> !repeat
[04:32] <rtk> wher are u ppl from?
[04:32] <darthanubis> rtk take it to #kde-offtopic
[04:34] <StupidWeasel> Can't help but think how much of a cheesey name ubottu is everytime I see it, heh.
[04:35] <StupidWeasel> Humm, the release date for the new KDE is soon I believe? I'm a ex-kde user who is now using gnome - still struggling for an excuse to switch back.
[04:37] <darthanubis> StupidWeasel: I never was a big KDE user in 98' but I now love KDE4x
[04:38] <darthanubis> Left Gnome about 2 weeks ago. I just miss good systems monitors for KDE though
[04:38] <StupidWeasel> Heh funny how it works huh? Everyone has their own preferences =3
[04:39] <StupidWeasel> I think KDE 4 has simplified the interface a little too much, even more then gnome.
[04:39] <darthanubis> uh no, that was not the point. The point was, if you needed a reason I gave you one
[04:40] <StupidWeasel> I still mostly use KDE based apps though such as kvirc and k3b.
[04:40] <darthanubis> and now "simplicity" is not a good thing?
[04:40] <StupidWeasel> Simplicity is fine, as long as it does not impact on functionality.
[04:41] <darthanubis> I did not use ANY KDE apps until two weeks ago
[04:41] <StupidWeasel> When things start to get hidden away to make things "simple" you have to worry.
[04:41] <EagleScreen> KDE 4 is great
[04:42] <darthanubis> I don't know. I am able to do everything in KDE that I did in Gnome
[04:42] <darthanubis> KWIN is faster and slicker and more stabel than Compiz
[04:42] <darthanubis> widgets but screenlets to shame
[04:42] <StupidWeasel> Probably me being a grumpy bugger more then anything, and refusing to take time to adjust to new things.
[04:42] <darthanubis> eyecandy KDE wins
[04:43] <StupidWeasel> Ahh I don't really go for eyecandy.
[04:43] <darthanubis> Amarok is cool
[04:44] <alexshenoy> can somebody help me set up Nepomuk to use Strigi for Desktop Search.
[04:44] <alexshenoy> i haven't for the life of me been able to get Strigi to run.
[04:44] <alexshenoy> ever
[04:44] <alexshenoy> im currently running 9.04 with kde 4.3 rc3
[04:45] <StupidWeasel> Is there an easy way to install kde without all the clutter of bundled applications that you get with installing kubuntu-desktop
[04:46] <StupidWeasel> it'd probably not be a bad idea for me to actually keep a proper eye on both gnome and kde, and switch between them at my leasure
[04:46] <darthanubis> no bad idea at all
[04:54] <StupidWeasel> ahh well going to go get some shuteye.
[04:55] <StupidWeasel> See you guys around.
[04:58] <beyondcr> did any one ever patch their wireless drivers?
[04:58] <beyondcr> i really need some help
[05:00] <MikHel_> beyondcr: I've messed with wireless drivers. What do you have?
[05:00] <beyondcr> zydas
[05:01] <MikHel_> Alex135: How is kde 4.3?
[05:01] <MikHel_> Better?
[05:02] <The_Jackal> howdy
[05:43] <kamui> hey
[05:44] <kamui> we  speak spanish
[05:47] <Adola> how do I delete a folder via terminal?
[05:47] <DaskreeCH> !es
[05:47] <DaskreeCH> Adola: rmdir if it's empty
[05:48] <Adola>  DaskreeCH What if it's not empty?
[05:48] <DaskreeCH> then it ges trickier :)
[05:48] <DaskreeCH> rm -r
[05:51] <Adola> Da\
[05:52] <Adola> DaskreeCH: I keep rm -r'ng a directory with a httpd.conf~ file in it, and teh file keeps coming back, maybe it doesn't get deleted, but, the terminal returns no errors.
[05:52] <DaskreeCH> What are you trying to get rid of?
[05:53] <Adola> apache2 (I had some wonky httpd.conf file, and everytime I re-install apache2, that file remains the same, so, im' going to delete the file now that I uninstalled it again)
[05:54] <DaskreeCH> Adola: apt-get remove apache2 --purge ?
[05:55] <Adola> DaskreeCH: That didn't do it.
[05:55] <Adola> Why can't I delete httpd.conf~
[05:55] <DaskreeCH> ah well then sudo rm it
[06:25] <ShockValue> hi all.. im trying to install kubuntu for the first time.  i've downloaded the latest CD, but cant get any of the options to boot properly
[06:26] <ShockValue> ive tried live cd, install, etc.. ive also used the "safe video driver" option, but they all load for about 1 minute, then the screen goes black
[06:26] <ShockValue> i have 2 screens.. on the left its black.. on the right its just colored stripes.. no keystrokes or mouse movements change anything.. i have to hit the reset button
[06:27] <ShockValue> any suggestions on how to get past this?
[06:27] <ShockValue> i downloaded version 9.04
[06:29] <DaskreeCH> ShockValue: you have two monitors hooked up?
[06:33] <ShockValue> i do, yes
[06:34] <ShockValue> ill try and disconnect and see if that helps
[06:50] <ShockValue> disconnecting the 2nd motinor worked, thank you
[07:20] <luis_> hello i got 1 problem with zynga poker in facebook: the app doesnt wanna load, i checked with vista and it seems it uses the last version of adobe flash player, can someone help me install it? (i am using firefox)
[07:46] <noaXess> !ocr
[07:47] <noaXess> !info kooka
[07:47] <noaXess> ok.. what is a good ocr tool? so kooka doesn't exist in jaunty.. should i use gocr-gtk?
[07:48] <noaXess> !info gocr-gtk
[07:48] <noaXess> grr.
[08:02] <beyondcr> dose anyone know how to patch wireless drivers im about to pull my hair out
[08:07] <syntax> Is kubuntu any good ?
[08:07] <beyondcr> yes
[08:07] <beyondcr> i love it
[08:07] <syntax> Better then ubuntu or about the same?
[08:08] <beyondcr> i tryed both and i prefer k
[08:08] <syntax> Thats tight
[08:08] <syntax> Its installing now
[08:08] <beyondcr> get your updates reboot
[08:09] <beyondcr> then get you video drivers right
[08:09] <syntax> ok
[08:09] <beyondcr> if you have a ati or nvidia get envyng
[08:09] <syntax> i have ati
[08:10] <beyondcr> after your updates and reboot then go to kpackagekit and get envyng qt and core then enable the recommended driver
[08:10] <Adola> Hey, how can I install a .deb via terminal instead of a program?
[08:10] <beyondcr> then make sure you reboot
[08:18] <beyondcr> all i see in net/wireless//zd1211rw is Kconfig and Makefile dose anyone know why that is?
[08:39] <jado> hi, i have a problem with the "system activity" of the krunner: since i have a program which uses more than 1GB, it displays a negative use of memory
[08:52] <GeekThunder> Is there any solution to save or backup packages and updates which are downloaded by Kubuntu 9.04 package manager?
[08:53] <syntax> i dont know i cant get the themes in kubuntu to fully change
[08:56] <oldude67> hey will kubuntu run on 256 meg of ram in vbox?
[09:00] <syntax> thats not to much ram old
[09:01] <oldude67> ya i know, i just want to know if it will load, ill probably end up using xfce after its installed.
[09:02] <syntax> i dont know to be for sure
[09:03] <syntax> i got kubuntu installed tho in vbox
[09:04] <oldude67> im just really testing to see if vbox is working right so far...ill add more memory to it later.
[09:10] <syntax> o ok
[09:10] <Caliostro> Hi, people :)
[09:13] <oldude67> !hello
[09:14] <syntax> i wish i could get the themez to change fully
[09:16] <Caliostro> Does anybody know which kubuntu repos are the best? )
[09:20] <Caliostro> I've added a few strange repositories to /etc/apt/sources.list and my update manager can't download updates =)
[09:21] <Caliostro> I'm newbie in kubuntu. My previous systems were windows & fedora :)
[09:41] <Caliostro> What is the matter of this conference if here's quite silence? ;)
[09:44] <Mamarok> Caliostro: this is a support channel only, not for discussion
[09:44] <oldude67> well 256 meg of memory will work, doggier then crap, so defiantly will have to add more memory ...or use xfce as my desktop.
[09:45] <Mamarok> Caliostro: also you should stick with the official repositories if you are new to Linux
[09:46] <Mamarok> oldude67: watch your language, just say "256 Mb of memory will work only slowly"
[09:48] <beyondcr__> dose anyone have experiance in patching wireless drivers?
[09:50] <Caliostro> Mamarok, I see. I'm not new to Linux but to ubuntu  ;)
[09:55] <Mamarok> Caliostro: so what problems do you have with what repositories?
[10:03] <Caliostro> Mamarok, I've just found one I needed - medibuntu ;)
[10:03] <Mamarok> ok
[10:05] <PIPON13> si supuetamente es profesional pero no tiene midi
[10:05] <PIPON13> como voy a #ubuntustudio??
[10:06] <Mamarok> !es | PIPON13
[10:22] <antotot> bonjour, j'ai besoin d'aide svp
[10:22] <antotot> il y a quelqu'un ?
[10:22] <raphink> oui, mais c'es tun channel anglais
[10:22] <raphink> :)
[10:23] <raphink> antotot: quel est ton problème?
[10:23] <antotot> je voudrais changer mon fond ecran kubuntu
[10:23] <Caliostro> Why I cannot download any theme (emoticons, ksplash) from KDE menu?
[10:24] <antotot> mais je sais pas comment on fait
[10:24] <raphink> antotot: ah bah ça va, ta machine n'est pas sur le point d'exploser ;)
[10:24] <Caliostro> When I press button "Download", nothing happens
[10:25] <antotot> oui e sais, c'est pas un grand proble =D ya bocoup plus pire
[10:25] <raphink> antotot: click droit sur le bureau => réglages du bureau (ou un truc du genre , "desktop settings" en anglais)
[10:25] <raphink> Caliostro: where is that?
[10:26] <antotot> raphink:  merci beaucoup
[10:26] <Caliostro> raphink, in system settings
[10:26] <antotot> sa marche :)
[10:26] <raphink> where in system settings?
[10:27] <Caliostro> raphink, in start menu :)
[10:27] <raphink> Caliostro: my question was not "where IS system settings", but "where IN system settings"
[10:27] <raphink> system settings has quite a few modules ;)
[10:28] <antotot> je peu poser une autre question ?
[10:29] <raphink> tu peux toujours essayer
[10:29] <raphink> tu verras bien si ça marche ;)
[10:29] <Caliostro> System settings -> first left icon on the top (like Overwiev in english) -> emoticons
[10:30] <raphink> ok, in Appearance
[10:30] <antotot> j'arrive pas a installer le plug-in java pour mozilla firefox
[10:31] <Caliostro> there's a button "Download new themes...". Yeah, just forgot :)
[10:31] <raphink> let's see
[10:31] <raphink> works for me on jaunty Caliostro
[10:31] <raphink> I just installed the kadu penguins theme
[10:31] <raphink> antotot: avec le paquet?
[10:32] <Caliostro> raphink, me too :)  But I need ICQ 6.5 smiles and others )))
[10:33] <antotot> non depuis le site d'ubuntu (documentation)
[10:33] <raphink> Caliostro: seems to be a problem with the ICQ 6.5 archive
[10:33] <raphink> doesn't work for me either
[10:33] <raphink> Caliostro: you could try to grab it manually from kde-look and import the zip
[10:34] <Caliostro> raphink, I'll try. And where to place them? )
[10:34] <raphink> Caliostro: use the "Install theme" button instead of "Get new themes"
[10:35] <Caliostro> raphink, OK
[10:36] <Mamarok> raphink, antotot please keep it English
[10:36] <raphink> Mamarok: it seems antotot doesn't speak english, and the french channel was closed some months ago
[10:37] <antotot> i cant speek english
[10:37] <Mamarok> well, there are french speaking channels for that
[10:37] <raphink> Mamarok: I don't really want to leave a user behind based on the fact that they don't speak english
[10:37] <Mamarok> raphink: there *is* a french speaking channel: @ubuntu-fr
[10:37] <antotot> raphink:  ils disent quoi ?
[10:37] <raphink> Mamarok: where most users use GNOME and cannot help with KDE
[10:38] <Mamarok> raphink: then take it to a query, this channel is English only
[10:38] <raphink> I'll talk to antotot in private next time
[10:38] <Mamarok> antotot: parles en privé avec raphink s.t.p, ce canal est anglais uniquement
[10:38] <Caliostro> Doh, ICQ 6.5 smiles archive has broken link or missing on the server :(
[10:38] <raphink> Caliostro: that would explain
[10:39] <antotot> ok Mamarok, i go to french channel
[10:39] <snarkster> is the solution for playing wma files in amarok install kubuntu-restricted-extras?
[10:39] <antotot> where is the french channel ?
[10:40] <antotot> please
[10:40] <Caliostro> (and many other pretty archives)
[10:40] <Mamarok> antotot: #ubuntu-fr
[10:40] <antotot> thanks =)
[10:40] <Mamarok> raphink: if there are enough French speaking KDE users you should make a #kubuntu-fr channel
[10:40] <Mamarok> only there have to be enough people around
[10:40] <antotot> goodbye =)
[10:41] <raphink>  yes I know about that Mamarok
[10:42] <Mamarok> raphink: I volunteer for help there, too :)
[10:42] <raphink> sure ;)
[10:42] <raphink> I just like to help people when I can, and I don't like to send them to channels where I'm not and they might not get an answer when I'm able to give them an answer
[10:43] <raphink> now when a channel is crowded with people and has tons of messages a minute, I'm happy to just go away to solve a problem
[10:43] <raphink> but when there's practically nothing happening, it's a pain to move away just for a few minutes
[10:43] <raphink> but that's just my point, and I know the policy you want people to follow
[10:43] <snarkster> anyonehere able to answer my question?
[10:43] <raphink> been there, done that, managed these very channels myself in the past ;)
[10:43] <raphink> snarkster: what is your question?
[10:44] <snarkster> raphink: is the solution for playing wma files in amarok install kubuntu-restricted-extras?
[10:44] <raphink> ah, no idea, sorry
[10:47] <Mamarok> snarkster: you need taglib-extrs for the wmv format
[10:47] <Mamarok> taglib-extras*
[10:49] <snarkster> thank you
[10:50] <Mamarok> snarkster: yaw :)
[10:51] <snarkster> have you ever seen dragonplayer complete hardlock a computer?
[11:04] <beyondcr> can anyone here help me with patching a driver?
[11:09] <beyondcr> do i need some source to patch wireless drivers i dont see any drivers in the kernel....
[11:21] <sopho> hi
[11:22] <beyondcr> ..... where can i find kernel sources
[11:22] <beyondcr> i need to patch a driver....
[11:26] <sopho> who likes icecream?
[11:30] <bigjools> update-notifier-kde is using 117Mb resident, ew
[11:32] <jado> hi, i have an internet problem, sometimes after a while, it seems that the dns goes down so i can't browse anymore. Just now it went down and i can't ping www.google.com but i'm still connected (unknown host)
[11:34] <sopho>  
[11:38] <Dator> Hello i need help
[11:39] <Dator> Can someone help me out im trying to connect to internet
[11:39] <Dator> But im using a router
[11:39] <Dator> Hello
[11:39] <Dator> ???
[11:39] <ForgeAus> Dator?
[11:39] <ForgeAus> using a router should help you connect to the internet... generally speaking
[11:40] <ForgeAus> do you know the IP of the device?
[11:40] <Dator> Yes but i dont know how to setup my internet connection on kubuntu i have always used windows before
[11:40] <Dator> Yes i know the ip
[11:40] <ForgeAus> is it DHCP?
[11:40] <Dator> Dont know
[11:40] <Dator> DHCP??
[11:40] <Dator> How do i know if its dhcp?
[11:40] <ForgeAus> ok before, did you have to tell the router what IP your comptuer was when you set it up?
[11:41] <Dator> I dont think so , i had an ip before when i was using windows its the same still
[11:41] <ForgeAus> (sorry I mean tell windows what IP the computer was)
[11:41] <Dator> I just dont know how to tell my kubuntu
[11:41] <ForgeAus> so you have a static IP, that your service provider tells you?
[11:41] <Dator> Yes it was 192.168.0.113
[11:41] <ForgeAus> ok in system settings
[11:41] <Dator> ok
[11:41] <ForgeAus> theres network applet there, brb.. I'll find it myself so I know what I'm talking about
[11:42] <Dator> Okey :)
[11:43] <ForgeAus> lol, just my luck network settings created an error when I loaded it!
[11:43] <ForgeAus> anyway network settings does that show up in your system-settings?
[11:44] <Dator> I have not checked be right back
[11:44] <ForgeAus> there should be a section of it that shows interfaces (one named /eth0 somtimes even more like /eth1 and so on)
[11:47] <Dator> Lol
[11:47] <Dator> I cant get my computer to run properly
[11:47] <Dator> It says in dos that NTDLR is missing
[11:47] <Dator> What can be the problem?
[11:47] <Dator> yes there is eth0 and eth1 sometimes
[11:47] <Dator> But they fail to connect
[11:48] <ForgeAus> ntldr is the program windows uses to start itseful up
[11:48] <ForgeAus> its called a boot manger
[11:48] <Dator> Hmm its missing how do i fix it?
[11:48] <ForgeAus> kubuntu uses something called GRUB instead
[11:48] <Dator> Ok
[11:48] <ForgeAus> no its likely that it isn't missing actually
[11:48] <Dator> But i have installed a fresh copy of kubuntu
[11:48] <ForgeAus> !grub
[11:48] <Dator> Maybe i can find it in bios?
[11:49] <ForgeAus> (you can either take a snapshot of your grub loader and place it as a file in Ntldr (the hard way), or let grub handle ntldr for you .. however... the ntldr missing thing is an issue you might need fixed before you fix grub...
[11:49] <ForgeAus> your windows disk should be able to fix that , go to ##windows to ask about that there...
[11:51] <beyondcr> there should be a app to make patching drivers easy..... = /
[11:51] <Dator> I dont think that is the problem
[11:53] <ForgeAus> Dator, I don't know if I can fix your windows for you, fixboot might be a good place to start
[11:53] <ForgeAus> (its a command in windows recovery console)
[11:53] <beyondcr> fixmbr
[11:53] <ForgeAus> I think it should find your windows if its still on your HDD
[11:53] <beyondcr> idk
[11:53] <ForgeAus> perhaps beyondcr but be careful
[11:53] <Dator> Its not on my hdd
[11:53] <ForgeAus> try fixboot first...
[11:53] <Dator> I have installed kubuntu three times
[11:54] <beyondcr> it helped me meny times
[11:54] <beyondcr> ....
[11:54] <ForgeAus> Dator, in that case why are you worried about ntldr missing?
[11:54] <beyondcr> why dont you backup all your stuff
[11:54] <ForgeAus> the computer is trying to run windows when that message comes up
[11:54] <beyondcr> and just reformat everything
[11:54] <beyondcr> it might be easyer
[11:54] <ForgeAus> beyondcr, it can, but fixmbr can also be dangerous
[11:55] <Dator> Well my computer tells me NTDLR is missing and that i should press ctrl+alt+del to restart
[11:55] <Dator> It comes up everytime i start
[11:55] <ForgeAus> yes Dator, thats because windows is trying to load
[11:55] <ForgeAus> kubuntu will not say that
[11:55] <ForgeAus> because kubuntu doesn't have ntldr in it
[11:55] <Dator> Oh
[11:55] <Dator> But my computer is still using it can i change it in bios or anything?
[11:55] <beyondcr> if you google it there is a cd you can get that will fix allkinds of errors like that i cant recall where i got one its been to long
[11:55] <ForgeAus> no not bios...
[11:56] <ForgeAus> do you have more than 1 hard drive?
[11:56] <ForgeAus> (in the bios you can swith them if you have two .... thats one possibility to try)
[11:56] <Dator> yes i have 4
[11:57] <Dator> how much is kubuntu installed?
[11:57] <beyondcr> check your boot order
[11:57] <Dator> how many GB?
[11:57] <ForgeAus> Dator, uh, this is a little big of a problem for me! lol... I'm not sure I'm experienced enough to help you here without actually being there....
[11:57] <Dator> Oh
[11:57] <ForgeAus> I'm not certain how big it is
[11:57] <beyondcr> just boot from one at a time untill you get windows
[11:58] <beyondcr> it alldepends on the pakages you have installed
[11:58] <ForgeAus> or kubuntu
[11:58] <beyondcr> ForgeAus is there a grub command he can run to fix the grub
[11:59] <beyondcr> idk im pulling my hair out over patching freakin wifi drivers i dont think they could make it any easyer = /
[12:00] <Dator> is thre a channel for red hat?
[12:00] <ForgeAus> yes
[12:00] <beyondcr> : - )
[12:00] <Dator> hehe
[12:00] <ForgeAus> but redhat is now known as fedora core
[12:00] <bazhang> Dator, /msg alis list *redhat*
[12:00] <Dator> ok
[12:00] <ForgeAus> so probably #Fedora or #Fedoracore or something like tha
[12:00] <ForgeAus> I've never actually been there
[12:00] <bazhang> Dator, #fedora is fedora's channel
[12:00] <ForgeAus> but I'm certain there would be one
[12:01] <Dator> Hehe
[12:01] <Dator> Maybe i should try and install kubuntu again hmm
[12:01] <ForgeAus> actually yes they dropped the word core from the title in later versions didn't they?...
[12:01] <bazhang> yep
[12:01] <Dator> brb
[12:01] <Dator> Ill be back soon
[12:01] <Dator> Be right back
[12:01] <bazhang> Dator, better to stick with Kubuntu
[12:01] <ForgeAus> Fedora is a very different type of linux than Kubuntu
[12:08] <Dator> Okey back to beginning
[12:08] <Dator> I need help connecting to internet
[12:08] <Dator> But i have not setup any internet connection to my router yet but i have ip adress to my router its 192.168.0.113 and i dont know where to put it to make kubuntu understand its the one to use to get online
[12:09] <ForgeAus> well that eth0 (or eth1) interface is the one oyu need to tell what your IP is
[12:09] <Dator> yes but how do i do that?
[12:10] <ForgeAus> configure it
[12:10] <Dator> it says auto eth0 and auto eth1
[12:10] <Dator> How do i do that?
[12:10] <ForgeAus> there should be a button that says configure (or properties) when you select the interface
[12:10] <ForgeAus> in network settings
[12:10] <Dator> no it says hide
[12:10] <ForgeAus> ok hide is not what we want
[12:11] <ForgeAus> what other tabs are on that dialog box then?
[12:11] <Dator> if i click auto eth1 or eth0 it tries to connect
[12:11] <Dator> but it cant it fails
[12:11] <ForgeAus> yes that makes sense because it doesn't have the information it needs right?
[12:12] <ForgeAus> (another idea might be to try your router's IP in a web browser ... see if that connects)
[12:22] <luis_> ei guys i hot 1 problem with zynga poker in facebook: i used vista and checked the app uses adobe flash player, but firefox doesnt wanna load, can someone help me install it?
[12:22] <luis_> load it*
[12:25] <luis_> ????
[12:28] <luis_> hello????
[12:28] <luis_> ei guys i hot 1 problem with zynga poker in facebook: i used vista and checked the app uses adobe flash player, but firefox doesnt wanna load, can someone help me install it?
[12:30] <Mamarok> luis_: you need to give a bit more information: which Kubuntu version, 32-bit or 54-bit version?
[12:30] <ForgeAus> Mamarok vista isn't kubuntu
[12:30] <ForgeAus> luis you might want to try #firefox
[12:31] <Mamarok> ForgeAus: he used, past tense
[12:31] <ForgeAus> oh.. IC
[12:31] <ForgeAus> sorry... my bad
[12:31]  * ForgeAus thwaps himself
[12:32] <ForgeAus> maybe its a plugin missing or something? like Java?.. or flash player?
[12:32] <Mamarok> ForgeAus: I know that, but need more information first :)
[12:32] <Mamarok> luis_: can you please give the information I asked you abut?
[12:33] <Mamarok> about* even
[12:34] <Mamarok> oh, and the Firefox version would be nice to have, too
[12:35] <luis_> oh holda
[12:35] <luis_> when u say 32 bit what u mean, laptop?
[12:35] <luis_> because if yes yes
[12:36] <ForgeAus> luis try this type lsb_release -a and tell us what is in the line that says description
[12:36] <Mamarok> luis_: is your system using a 32bit or 64 bit processor? Also we need to know which Kubuntu version you are using
[12:36] <ForgeAus> (in a terminal window - if you need to know how to use a terminal window run the program konsole)
[12:36] <Mamarok> ForgeAus: ok, you handle that
[12:37] <luis_> luis@Luis:~$ lsb_release -a
[12:37] <luis_> No LSB modules are available.
[12:37] <luis_> Distributor ID: Ubuntu
[12:37] <luis_> Description:    Ubuntu 9.04
[12:37] <luis_> Release:        9.04
[12:37] <FloodBotK1> luis_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:37] <luis_> Codename:       jaunty
[12:38] <Mamarok> !paste > luis_
[12:38] <luis_> okay okay...
[12:38] <ForgeAus> ok Jaunty is current, while your in konsole to install firefox you can use the command: sudo apt-get install firefox
[12:38] <luis_> ?
[12:39] <luis_> got that already
[12:39] <luis_> Mozilla
[12:39] <ForgeAus> ohhh kay... can you repeat (in othe words) the problem again please..
[12:40] <Mamarok> luis_: you need to install the package called flashplayer-nonfree
[12:40] <Mamarok> args, flashplugin-nonfree
[12:41] <luis_> well installed flash nonfree, hope it works
[12:41] <luis_> i will reset now
[12:41] <luis_> firefox
[12:42] <ForgeAus> good luck :)
[12:42] <luis_> mmmm not.... tables keeps invisible :S
[12:43] <luis_> damn...
[12:43] <Mamarok> !language | luis_
[12:44] <luis_> LOL... ok
[12:44] <luis_> srry
[12:44] <luis_> i need my poker xD
[12:45] <luis_> nothing more than can be done??
[12:45] <Mamarok> luis_: you are using gnome, right?
[12:45] <luis_> no, KDE
[12:46] <Mamarok> hm, which firefox version do you have?
[12:46] <luis_> the lastest it think...(dont remember number, srry)
[12:46] <Mamarok> well, the help menu "About Firefox tells you the version
[12:47] <Mamarok> if it saqys Shiretoko then it is the latest
[12:47] <Mamarok> -q
[12:47] <Mamarok> else you should try installing the firefox-3.5 package
[12:48] <luis_> version
[12:48] <luis_> 3.0.12 :)
[12:48] <Mamarok> luis_: which is not exactly new, try sudo apt-get install firefox-3.5
[12:48] <luis_> okis
[12:49] <luis_> i am srry i am a little impatient... but i cant live without playing poker in my facebook in the morning lol
[12:49] <luis_> its like the cofee =)
[12:50] <Mamarok> luis_: that is off topic here, no need to explain your private life
[12:50] <Mamarok> you are welcome to discuss in #kubuntu-offtopic though
[12:51] <luis_> ...
[12:53] <luis_> so installing this new version can maybe correct this...or i am wrong...
[12:53] <Mamarok> luis_: it is worth a try, yes
[12:53] <luis_> good
[12:55] <luis_> i know it is offtopic, but to make u an idea, i rank 2 from all my poker buddies in FB (889) lol
[12:55] <Mamarok> luis_: well if you know it, then don't post it here!
[12:55] <luis_> ..........
[12:55] <Mamarok> just stay on topic
[12:59] <luis_> omfg...
[12:59] <luis_> keeps invisible...
[12:59] <luis_> WTF
[12:59] <Mamarok> luis_: this is the last warning, watch your langauge!
[13:00] <Mamarok> language*
[13:05] <ForgeAus> uh Mamarok if I go from Intrepid to Karmic (not yet of course) should I go thru Jaunty or can you upgrade directly?
[13:06] <Mamarok> well, I really don't know, might well be possible, maybe ask in #ubuntu+1, they might know
[13:07] <luis_> soo thats all???
[13:08] <luis_> no way to play poker in linux
[13:08] <luis_> =)
[13:09] <Mamarok> luis_: you could try another browser like Opera
[13:10] <luis_> ...
[13:11] <luis_> pleasure too meet
[13:11] <luis_> yeah yeah nice SO
[13:11] <luis_> now back to vista ;)
[13:11] <luis_> adios!
[13:46] <[-Haza-]> Hey guys. How do i change what version of java my OS uses. I don't want to use the GCJ version but instead my sun Java 1.6
[13:47] <Mamarok> [-Haza-]: do you have both versions installed?
[13:48] <[-Haza-]> Mamarok: I do
[13:48] <Xand3r> hey folks
[13:48] <Mamarok> [-Haza-]: what does sudo update-java-alternatives -l tell you which is default?
[13:48] <Mamarok> hi Xand3r
[13:48] <[-Haza-]> Or at least i did and i was using Sun JVM initially
[13:48] <Xand3r> emm i have now a second monitor plugd in my laptop
[13:48] <Xand3r> but if i close the lid
[13:48] <[-Haza-]> Mamarok: I did java - version and got the GCJlib version. I'll try your command
[13:49] <Xand3r> the second monitor turns black to
[13:49] <Xand3r> how can i solve it?
[13:49] <Mamarok> Xand3r: could you stat all this in one line, please?
[13:49] <[-Haza-]> Mamarok: Ahh i see. Its list all my JVM's? :)
[13:49] <Mamarok> state*
[13:49] <[-Haza-]> Mamarok:
[13:49] <[-Haza-]> java-6-sun 63 /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun
[13:49] <[-Haza-]> java-gcj 1042 /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj
[13:49] <Mamarok> [-Haza-]: doesn't it tell you one is default?
[13:50]  * Mamarok tries herself
[13:50] <Xand3r> I have pluged a second monitor in my laptop, but the second monitor turns black if i close the lid, how can i get the VGA output enabled while the lid is closed?
[13:51] <Xand3r> Mamarok: better?
[13:51] <Mamarok> Xand3r: which Kubuntu version do you use?
[13:51] <[-Haza-]> Mamarok: java -version does
[13:51] <Mamarok> Xand3r: perfect :)
[13:51] <Xand3r> Mamarok: Hi btw
[13:51] <[-Haza-]> Mamarok:
[13:51] <[-Haza-]> java version "1.5.0"
[13:51] <[-Haza-]> gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.3.3
[13:51] <Xand3r> Mamarok: i sm using 9.04
[13:51] <Mamarok> [-Haza-]: sudo update-java-alternatives -s java-6-sun should set the default
[13:52] <Mamarok> Xand3r: not sure it is possible, did you check in the system settings display section?
[13:52] <[-Haza-]> Mamarok: And it does! :) Thank you :)
[13:53] <Xand3r> Mamarok: yea but there is nothing like this
[13:53] <Mamarok> Xand3r: else it might be in system settings -> advanced tab -> power management
[13:53] <Mamarok> where oyu can set the actions on closing hte lid
[13:54] <Mamarok> [-Haza-]: you are welcome :)
[13:56] <Xand3r> Mamarok: for every profile i set do nothing if lid is closed already
[13:57] <Mamarok> do nothing when you close the lid you mean
[13:57] <Mamarok> then you need to log out and in again
[13:57] <majestick12> hi all
[13:58] <majestick12> mm
[13:58] <majestick12> hi?
[13:58] <Xand3r> Mamarok: that i set be fore i pluged in the monitor
[13:58] <Mamarok> hi majestick12, do you have a question?
[13:58] <ForgeAus> argh, jaunty upgrade tells me tthis computer is currently using fglrx graphics drieve, no version of this driver is available that works with my hardware in Ubuntu 9.04...
[13:58] <majestick12> no =p
[13:58] <Mamarok> Xand3r: but did you restart KDE?
[13:59] <Mamarok> ForgeAus: use the free radeon one
[13:59] <Xand3r> why shuld i? i did it 9 weeks ago
[13:59] <[-Haza-]> Mamarok: Wow, you're a question answering machine!
[13:59] <Mamarok> Xand3r: well, then I don't know, might be either laptop related or KDE version related
[13:59] <ForgeAus> radeon is better :) I like that... I thought I was using it already... weird...
[14:00] <Xand3r> Mamarok: ok, crapy acer
[14:00] <Mamarok> [-Haza-]: when I am around and know the answer only
[14:00] <Mamarok> Xand3r: I understand your pain
[14:00] <Xand3r> ^^
[14:17] <ForgeAus> wheres restricted driver manager in kubuntu?
[14:18] <Mamarok> ForgeAus: it's jockey-kde IIRC
[14:18] <ciacon> hi folks - what label to I have to use in fdisk when creating a kubuntu 9.04 usb boot stick (as needed to install on a Asus EEE 1000)
[14:19] <ciacon> sadly I have no external cd rom drive (no internal one either obviously...)
[14:19] <ciacon> and I am permanently failing to make a bootable media
[14:19] <Mamarok> ciacon: not sure yu need a lable, but check here:
[14:19] <Mamarok> !usb
[14:19] <genii> I think label of something like "casper-cow"
[14:20] <ciacon> genii - currently I choose 'c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)' in fdisk
[14:21] <genii> ciacon: That is partition type. Label is different
[14:21] <ester> Hello. I've installed Firefox and Opera 9.64 and Flash player from their website in Kubuntu 9.04. Flash works in Firefox but not in Opera a white area appears where flash movies should be (trying with YouTube). Flash does show up when typing about:plugins. Any ideas?
[14:21] <ciacon> now that that was clarrified - what is the right setting?
[14:24] <Mamarok> ester: sorry, can't really help you with Opera, as it is third-party software and not really open source
[14:28] <ester> Mamarok: Ok. Back to Google it is :)
[14:29] <lorecaster> having a problem installing my brother printer drivers... i'm sure it's just a syntax error... i'm following these instructions, i'm getting an error in step 4-3... will pastebin
[14:30] <lorecaster> http://pastebin.com/d49956d81
[14:33] <lorecaster> anyone? :(
[14:33] <Mamarok> lorecaster: patience :)
[14:34] <lorecaster> i've waited an hour with no reply... only to probe further and someone said, "We were waiting on more information."
[14:34] <Zeissen> Bonjour ^
[14:34] <lorecaster> lol
[14:35] <Mamarok> lorecaster: I really don't understand your paste, this has nothing to do with printer drivers
[14:35] <Mamarok> also, what instructions are you following? You didn't tell
[14:35] <lorecaster> that's what i'm saying, it's a syntax error. http://solutions.brother.com/linux/en_us/instruction_prn3.html following these
[14:37] <Mamarok> lorecaster: well, you didn't paste the link the first time, I didn't see it
[14:38] <lorecaster> so sorry. :( not much purpose to hinder your helpers, eh?
[14:38] <Mamarok> lorecaster: what printer is it exactly?
[14:38] <lorecaster> Brother 465CN
[14:39] <Mamarok> no, the syntax seems to be correct, let me check again
[14:40] <Mamarok> lorecaster: you did download the 64-bit driver (if there is one)?
[14:40] <lorecaster> none, had to do the force-architecture
[14:40] <Mamarok> and you checked Step 2?
[14:40] <bobbob1016> I'm running beagle, and when I open the settings it says "Attempted to watch /home/bob/.beagle/config failed no space on disk" but I have plenty of space.  Any ideas?
[14:41] <lorecaster> i did... the only issue appears to be the errors with mkdir, chown, chgrp and chmod...
[14:41] <lorecaster> but i used SUDO... and the correct password.
[14:41] <lorecaster> that's only where the error is, as i see it. unless you see more than i
[14:41] <lorecaster> all my libs are installed
[14:42] <Mamarok> lorecaster: did you try creating that directory it can't access?
[14:42] <Mamarok> /var/spool/lpd/mfc465cn
[14:42] <Mamarok> ?
[14:43] <lorecaster> i tried again, mkdir: cannot create directory `/var/spool/lpd/mfc465cn': No such file or directory
[14:43] <lorecaster> i used sudo mkdir /var/spool/lpd/mfc465cn
[14:43] <Mamarok> lorecaster: that is very strange, as you should be able to do so with sudo
[14:43] <lorecaster> i know... i'm not green, but i'm not a vet either... this makes no sense.
[14:43] <Mamarok> you have enough space on that üpartition?
[14:44] <Mamarok> (which is just a wild guess, it should alert about space)
[14:44] <lorecaster> i should have oodle
[14:44] <lorecaster> s
[14:45] <Mamarok> lorecaster: and there is no way to install that driver with cups?
[14:45] <lorecaster> not that i've seen
[14:45] <lorecaster> it worked a few months ago. that's the frustrating thing.
[14:45] <Mamarok> you did check openprinting.org, didn't you?
[14:46] <lorecaster> i've only got 427gb free :P
[14:46] <lorecaster> i did before , will run through there again
[14:46] <Mamarok> lorecaster: as I said, wild guess :)
[14:46] <lorecaster> that's why i like you guys, very creative.
[14:46] <Mamarok> I can't see any syntax problems
[14:46] <Mamarok> it really is strange
[14:46] <lorecaster> LOL, those are the only errors i get.
[14:47]  * Mamarok tries on her machine
[14:48] <lorecaster> http://www.openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Brother-MFC-465-cn
[14:49] <lorecaster> but again, none of this has to do with the printer, that i can see.
[14:50] <Mamarok> indeed, I can make directories in that folder
[14:50] <Mamarok> so there shouldn't be a problem
[14:50] <Mamarok> maybe get in touch with Brother, this could well be a packaging problem
[14:51] <lorecaster> how is that?
[14:56] <dac123> Is it possible to change my redisplay resolution? I don't like the 800X600 resolution.
[14:56] <Mamarok> lorecaster: well, if there has been an error in the packaging, the attempt to creat these folders might not work, you should be able to actually creat those yourself as a workaround
[14:56] <lorecaster> but i cannot. which makes it even wierder
[14:57] <Mamarok> lorecaster: then something is wrong with your permissions
[14:57] <lorecaster> but the same package, the same file download, in the same place as it was last time...
[14:57] <lorecaster> with SUDO root permissions?! lol
[14:57] <Mamarok> lorecaster: make sure you didn't misstype your password
[14:57] <lorecaster> how do i change root permissions to 777 then?
[14:58] <lorecaster> hmm... that could be it too
[14:58] <Mamarok> I can creat new folders in /var/spool/, so you should be able too, with sudo mkdir
[15:00] <dac123> I'll just go away...
[15:01] <lorecaster> lemme try a reboot
[15:02] <_lucas_> hi there
[15:02] <_lucas_> Where is the kubuntu-dev chan ?
[15:03] <_lucas_> I tried #kubuntu-dev, and was all alone
[15:03] <Mamarok> _lucas_: are you a developer?
[15:03] <_lucas_> no but I wanted to get in touch with Riddell or anyone of them
[15:04] <_lucas_> regarding the status of vpn
[15:04] <Mamarok> _lucas_: well, then ping him, he is here, too :)
[15:04] <_lucas_> in kubuntu, which is let's say in a poor state
[15:04] <Mamarok> _lucas_: as I said, ping him
[15:04] <_lucas_> Riddell:
[15:06] <Riddell> hi _lucas_
[15:06] <Mamarok> _lucas_: just be patient, they are very busy
[15:06] <Mamarok> :)
[15:06] <_lucas_> ;)
[15:07] <_lucas_> Hi Riddell, I was wondering if reporting a bug on lp regarding the status of vpns in kubuntu was worth it ?
[15:07] <Riddell> _lucas_: probably not, what sort of VPN are you using?
[15:07] <_lucas_> Riddell: vpnc,
[15:08] <_lucas_> I tried network manager and kvpnc but both of them end up being useless
[15:08] <Riddell> _lucas_: there's a new network manager needing testing if you're using karmic
[15:08] <_lucas_> I am using karmic right nom
[15:08] <_lucas_> now
[15:08] <Riddell> _lucas_: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/PlasmaWidgetNetworkManager/0.0%2Bsvn1002781-0ubuntu1%7Eppa1
[15:09] <Riddell> I've no idea if it works or no but would be good to find out
[15:09] <_lucas_> Ok I try it it, should I report feedback here ?
[15:15] <Riddell> _lucas_: yes please, and on that wiki page
[15:17] <Loqusiste> hi guys - was wondering if anyone could take me through to how to join the quakenet server?
[15:19] <BluesKaj> just add it to your server list then the channels and whatever identity you want to use
[15:22] <_lucas_> Riddell: I just tried it, It looks like vpn configuration is handled by the kde system settings menu, which is the culprit for not being able to set up vpnc correctly
[15:23] <_lucas_> Maye it requires root access, which would be a reson why changes are not saved
[15:23] <_lucas_> reason
[15:24] <Gonenk> Hey people . I have a little problem. I am using kubuntu with KDE 3.5 (I think its kubuntu 8.04, Hardy) Yesterday I upgraded my kubuntu to the newest version , 9.04 with KDE 4.2 . After the upgrade installed all the necessary packages it restarted my computer. After I logged in, my screen truned blue, and a console window in white was opened . Here , take a look http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/5736/72352329.png . Now it happends all 
[15:26] <bobbob1016> Is there a way to allow my CD-Rom eject button to eject CD's?  For some reason I can only eject via dolphin.
[15:27] <Riddell> _lucas_: did you run knetworkmanager and get an icon in the systray?
[15:28] <_lucas_> MMhh no, I started the networkmanager by add widgets with plasma does it make a difference ?
[15:28] <Riddell> _lucas_: that doesn't work currently.  remove that and just run "knetworkmanager"
[15:29] <_lucas_> ok
[15:29] <_lucas_> Riddell:  ok so now I have it
[15:31] <_lucas_> Riddell:  Still useless for vpnc
[15:31] <ArtLab> gnome or kde?
[15:32] <_lucas_> Riddell: And informations I entered magically disappeared
[15:33] <Riddell> _lucas_: so you do Manage Connections -> VPN -> Add ?
[15:34] <_lucas_> Yes,
[15:35] <_lucas_> For example if I go to the optional  info panel, even if I tick the boxes, the fields are still greyed so I can't enter any other infos
[15:36] <_lucas_> And when I click ok and go back to this setup with the modify button, everything is gone
[15:36] <_lucas_> exept its name
[15:38] <_lucas_> Riddell: maybe some screenshots/casts might help understand the whole thing ?
[15:38] <Riddell> _lucas_: it's ok, I see the same issue
[15:39] <_lucas_> ok
[15:39] <Riddell> let me ask if it should work
[15:39] <_lucas_> :)
[15:42] <Riddell> _lucas_: ok I'm told it's not going to work until next week  https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=188489
[15:43] <_lucas_> Ok
[15:43] <Riddell> _lucas_: so do come back then and we'll try again
[15:43] <_lucas_>  good to know there is some work going on :) thanks see you next week
[15:50] <Gonenk> Hey people . I have a little problem. I am using kubuntu with KDE 3.5 (I think its kubuntu 8.04, Hardy) Yesterday I upgraded my kubuntu to the newest version , 9.04 with KDE 4.2 . After the upgrade installed all the necessary packages it restarted my computer. After I logged in, my screen truned blue, and a console window in white was opened . Here , take a look http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/5736/72352329.png . Now it happends all 
[15:51] <Riddell> Gonenk: what happens if you start a kde app from that command line?
[15:53] <ushi> How can I disable ALT+CLICK? I need to pass this keystroke combination to an application, so I want KDE to stop moving windows with it.
[15:56] <Gonenk> Riddell : It says nothing , I mean , I think that it is working but it is just not displayed
[16:08] <gonen> Riddel : Apps like firefox are working without the KDE toolbar of course, and KDE applications are just not being displayed
[16:12] <a_> f
[16:15] <kaddi> heya :)
[16:16] <kaddi> I'm having an issue with a widget and I'm not sure if this is a feature, by design or a bug. :p So if someone could tell me that would be great :D
[16:16] <kaddi> I'm using the systray-widget outside off the controlbar, so I would like to have a systray widget on every desktop I have
[16:18] <kaddi> however the symbols in systray are onle displayed in one widget. meaning a minimized konversation will show on desktop one. the symbols for power and updates and wifi will be on desktop 2 and the systray widget on desktop three remains completely empty
[16:18] <kaddi> is there a way to get the systay widget to display all icons on all desktops? (without putting it into a control bar)
[16:42] <EagleScreen> hello
[16:48] <Mamarok> hi EagleScreen
[16:48] <EagleScreen> hi
[16:55] <ubuntu> !debian
[16:57] <StupidWeasel> Hey folks, giving KDE 4* a try again, and I'm wondering how one would go about positoning widgets within a panel. I'd like some on the left, some on the right.
[16:58] <EagleScreen> StupidWeasel: use the special button on the right of the panel
[16:59] <ForgeAus> the cashew looking one
[16:59] <ForgeAus> lets you configure it
[17:00] <StupidWeasel> Humm, I've tried - they seem to drop back to the left.
[17:06] <ForgeAus> Stupidweasel hmm what vers kde4?
[17:07] <ForgeAus> some versions were notorios for not keeping settings but I havn't heard of this being a taskbar (kickoff/plasma) issue in this way before
[17:10] <StupidWeasel> ForgeAus: 4.2.2. I can add and remove widgets freely, but whenever I drag them around the panel they snap back into place.
[17:14] <StupidWeasel> Certain widgets seem to take up a lot more space then they should as well. Lancalot and system tray for example.
[17:24] <converter> using kubuntu 4.3rc, network manager doesn't do wifi connections well. I installed wpagui, but it doesn't see any interfaces. is there something I'm missing in my config?
[17:31] <Refraxx> Hello all. I could use some help with the"software updates". Is anyone familliar with the "blocked updates"?
[17:32] <Refraxx> I have blocked updates I cant do anything with.
[17:32] <Refraxx> Is anyone online?
[17:32] <kaddi> Refraxx run "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" in a shell and they should be installed
[17:32] <ForgeAus> Refraxx now that you mentioni t I do think I did come across that once, but I don't remember what it meant... or how I dealt with it
[17:33] <Refraxx> Kaddi--What's a shell?
[17:33] <kaddi> press alt+f2 a window will open, type "konsole" into it, a shell shoudl open :)
[17:34] <Refraxx> I'm new to Kubuntu & not familliar with the ins & outs yet
[17:34] <Refraxx> oh, ok
[17:36] <Refraxx> it's working from the look of it.
[17:36] <kaddi> it should :)
[17:36] <kaddi> you will have to reboot your PC once the updates are done.
[17:37] <Refraxx> ok
[17:37] <kaddi> but it should tell you so on its own :)
[17:37] <Refraxx> do you know why they would appear? If I can't install them, why do they show up?
[17:39] <kaddi> you can install them, you are doing so right now. The thing is that the updates you are currently installing may need some additional attention, because they need other updates to work correctly
[17:40] <kaddi> so the update notifier holds back those updates, until you tell him you really want to install them
[17:40] <Refraxx> oh ok, that makes sense.
[17:41] <babyshambles> hello, i want enabling surround sounds on jaunty. i followed instructions from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SurroundSound but it's for ubuntu. can someone please write the cmd line for kubuntu. thanks
[17:41] <Refraxx> this is taking a while, so I'm gonna logg out of this chat. I'll be back if I need additional help. Thanks  kaddi
[17:42] <kaddi> you're welcome :)
[17:49] <uzman> türkçe
[17:50] <uzman> türkçe ubuntu yardım
[17:50] <uzman> turkey
[17:51] <uzman> ses sorunum var
[17:51] <uzman> yardimci olabilecek biri varmi
[17:51] <Onyx> Is there another way to install proprietary drivers besides Jockey?  It never seems to complete installing what it's told to install
[17:51] <kaddi> !tr
[17:55] <kaddi> Onyx I have never heard of jockey, usually when proprietary windows drivers need to be installed ndiswrapper is suggested
[17:56] <kaddi> but I'm not really familiar with these problems.. never had to recurr to it, as everything has been working so far for me :)
[18:08] <lcs> hello
[18:09] <lcs> como estan
[18:12] <lcs> algien a tenido experiencia con mandriva 2009.1?
[18:14] <lcs> algien a tenido experiencia con mandriva 2009.1?
[18:14] <lcs> algien a tenido experiencia con mandriva 2009.1?
[18:14] <lcs> algien a tenido experiencia con mandriva 2009.1?
[18:14] <lcs> algien a tenido experiencia con mandriva 2009.1?
[18:15] <lcs> algien a tenido experiencia con mandriva 2009.1?
[18:15] <FloodBotK1> lcs: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:33] <krio> |debian
[18:33] <krio> !debisn
[18:33] <krio> !debian
[18:36] <alberto> porfavor canal ubuntu en español??? link
[18:37] <alberto> alguien me da el link ubuntu spanish???????
[18:37] <alberto> !!!!!!!
[18:37] <alberto> :(
[18:37] <alberto> porfavorç
[18:37] <FloodBotK1> alberto: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:37] <Pici> !es | alberto
[18:38] <alberto> ok :) thanks!!
[18:46] <jimmy51_> msg /NickServ identify whatever
[18:47] <Pici> jimmy51_: The slash goes in front of msg
[18:47] <jimmy51_> hehe
[18:47] <jimmy51_> i know
[18:47] <jimmy51_> anyone have any pointers for running 3d games in kubuntu 9.04?
[18:47] <jimmy51_> i've got an intel GMA 950 (weak integrated adapter)
[18:48] <jimmy51_> what sort of tweaks can i do to squeeze the most out of it?
[18:59] <xhatman> testing kubuntu karmic alpha3.. very impressed.. very nice =)
[18:59] <alberto> link ubuntu español?
[19:00] <alberto> ubuntu-es
[19:00] <alberto> ??????
[19:01] <alberto> please link to ubuntu spanish!!!
[19:02] <kaddi> !es @| alberto
[19:02] <kaddi> !es | alberto
[19:02] <alberto> thanks :)
[19:02] <kaddi> de nada :)
[19:08] <Havoc][> hello together. Would this problem be fixed in the nex time? The following packages are BROKEN: kopete-cryptography
[19:11] <Walzmyn> the network manager says my wireless is not connected, and yet here I am chatting across the intertubes, what's up with this thing?
[19:31] <michcz>  \
[19:32] <hagisbasheruk> \/\/
[19:32] <michcz> Co tutaj taka cisza?
[19:33] <hagisbasheruk> :)
[19:33] <michcz> Rozumiem, że wszyscy są zajęci kompilacją jądra :D
[19:34] <hagisbasheruk> try that in english , my polish sux
[19:35] <Havoc][> hello together. Would this problem be fixed in the nex time? The following packages are BROKEN: kopete-cryptography
[19:36] <hagisbasheruk> Havoc][:  have you tried sudo apt-get upgrade --fix-missing ?
[19:51] <Havoc][>  ?
[19:51] <C00LARR0w> is there a way to find out my wirelees card model number since i cant find any place that specifically tells me the model number
[19:53] <genii> C00LARR0w: sudo lshw -C network  may give it someplace in the output
[19:54] <C00LARR0w> ty
[19:55] <joshuajtl> hey folks does anyone knnow where there is a package for firefox-qt for jaunty?
[20:07] <joshuajtl> hello?
[20:09] <genii> joshuajtl: You might want to try the oldie but goodie howto at http://jussi01.com/?p=26
[20:09] <joshuajtl> thanks genii
[20:09] <genii> np
[20:10] <jussi01> aye, that ones old, and Ive no idea if it still works, but please do comment on the blog if it still does
[20:11]  * genii slides jussi01 a coffee
[20:11] <genii> joshuajtl: For a native qt browser I've gone for the moment to Arora
[20:11] <joshuajtl> genii: yeah just installed :)
[20:13] <jussi01> opera also now has a qt4 browser, but that is closed source of course, so not recomended
[20:13] <joshuajtl> jussi01: i believe its also still only i686 no x86-64
[20:13] <joshuajtl> how can I make sure that I'm running a pure kde4 system here?
[20:15] <jussi01> joshuajtl: ftp://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/opera/linux/964/final/en/x86_64/
[20:16] <joshuajtl> jussi01: right but unfortunately no qt4... only qt3
[20:16] <joshuajtl> oh wow
[20:16] <jussi01> heh, I didnt see that. anyway, the 32 bit binaries will run on a 64 bit system...
[20:16] <joshuajtl> they released a beta2 of 10 with qt4 x86-64 thats new
[20:16] <jussi01> :)
[20:17] <jussi01> anyway,  back on topic...
[20:20] <joshuajtl> anyone know where kde-plasma-stasks might be available from?
[20:21] <JontheEchidna> !info plasma-widget-stasks
[20:21] <JontheEchidna> !info plasma-widget-stasks karmic
[20:21] <joshuajtl> thanks
[20:21] <JontheEchidna> Yeah, it's not in jaunty, but it will be available in karmic
[20:21] <JontheEchidna> you're welcome
[20:22] <joshuajtl> oh JontheEchidna could it be available through ppa ?
[20:22] <JontheEchidna> possibly
[20:22] <JontheEchidna> samrog's ppa might be a good bet
[20:22] <joshuajtl> JontheEchidna: I havent used kubuntu therefore ppa in a while... forgot how to search ppa for a package
[20:22] <joshuajtl> how do I?
[20:23] <JontheEchidna> I just googled for "samrog ppa" :P
[20:23] <JontheEchidna> https://launchpad.net/~samrog131/+archive/ppa
[20:23] <joshuajtl> JontheEchidna: but in the future how would I search ppa for a package?
[20:24] <JontheEchidna> dunno really
[20:24] <joshuajtl> k
[20:25] <joshuajtl> if I add a ppa to sources.lst when I run a apt-get upgrade only things installed from the ppa  repo will be upgraded right ? it wont upgrade anything else in the system?
[20:34] <joshuajtl> hey folks anyone know how I would go about uninstalling all kde3 from jaunty? I want a pure kde4 system
[20:34] <Mannequin> hi, is it mmm easy to update my Kubuntu 9.04 to a edge KDE version?
[20:35] <Mannequin> any guide about doing it?
[20:42] <Pliskin> Mannequin : use the ubuntu backports ppa :)
[20:42] <Pliskin> kubuntu*
[20:44] <joshuajtl> anyone know how I can unisntall all kde3 libs and apps from my jaunty kubuntu install? and maybe how I can uninstall all gnome too?
[20:45] <Mannequin> Pliskin: kubuntu... backports... ppa... will have to investigate what you are talking about ;)
[20:45] <Pliskin> Mannequin : http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2.98
[20:46] <Mannequin> wonder if someday the concepts of Zero Install [http://0install.net] and the ROX desktop will be grasped by mainstream distributions :)
[20:46] <Mannequin> Pliskin: thanks
[20:47] <Pliskin> Mannequin : maybe you want a Rolling Release distro ?
[20:48] <Pliskin> I'm not sure I've understood well the concept however...
[20:48] <Mannequin> Rolling Release? Will have to investigate that one too
[20:49] <joshuajtl> Folks I read that in the last release of kubuntu the live cd was pure kde4 but not the dvd... is that the same for jaunty?
[20:50] <Mannequin> Pliskin: Zero install seems to be a way to easily install apps at the user level, by just dragging a file somewhere... no need to be root
[20:50] <Mannequin> It's like that ideal world, where there are no different packages for different distributions.
[20:50] <Pliskin> I think there was K3B and other KDE3 apps, joshuajtl :)
[20:50] <Mannequin> the "everything is a file" Unix concept.
[20:50] <joshuajtl> Pliskin: there was? so no more? or if there are how can I uninstall all at once?
[20:51] <Pliskin> "no need to be root", Well I'm not sure I like the concept
[20:51] <Mannequin> Pliskin: the idea is that the installed software keeps somewhat sandboxed on the user space
[20:51] <Pliskin> joshuajtl : I don't know if karmic will include the kde4 version of k3b or note, I heard it's still buggy
[20:51] <Mannequin> (for sure, the Zero Install site can explain this better than me=
[20:52] <Mannequin> Pliskin: of course, it may lead to duplicated use of space, if many users installs the same software
[20:52] <Mannequin> but I think the zero install system proposes solutions to that "issue"
[20:53] <Pliskin> It's interesting for the public computers, but personnaly, I don't want anyone to be able to install softwares in my personnal computer
[20:54] <Pliskin> even if it's limited to that user only
[20:55] <Mannequin> Pliskin: I understand. Other advantage proposed by this system is the "one software release for every linux distribution", so package maintenance could be dismissed
[20:55] <Mannequin> a release of GIMP, for example, will work on every distro
[20:55] <Pliskin> I agree for the one, of course :)
[20:55] <joshuajtl> garrr I cant figure out how to remove all KDE3 from my system
[20:55] <Pliskin> this* one
[20:56] <Pliskin> joshuajtl : try to remove the core library, it may remove all the kde3 apps who depend on it
[20:56] <joshuajtl> Pliskin: what is that called? because its not called kde3 anything
[20:57] <Pliskin> I don't know exactly, something like kdelibs4 (yeah 4; not 3)
[20:58] <joshuajtl> Pliskin: why would I want to remove kdelibs4 ? I want to remove all kde3
[20:58] <Pliskin> joshuajtl : the libs of kde4 are called kdelibs5
[20:58] <joshuajtl> ahhh ok
[20:58] <Pliskin> :)
[21:04] <joshuajtl> Pliskin: apparently an installation of jaunty kde4 has very very little kde3 in it, thats nice
[21:04] <joshuajtl> how about gnome stuff... any thoughts ? would it be libgnome?
[21:05] <Pliskin> No idea :-° sorry
[21:06] <bp103_> what console command is like the dos command xcopy in linux?
[21:07] <ActionParsnip> bp103_: cp -R
[21:07] <genii> bp103_: cp     for the usage page see result of: man cp      (use q to exit)
[21:07] <genii> ActionParsnip: Actually perhaps more like -a
[21:09] <ActionParsnip> i just use cp ao a folder and it moves the whole folder
[21:10] <ActionParsnip> mkdir ./test; mkdir ./destination; mv ./test ./destination/
[21:10] <ActionParsnip> for example
[21:11] <genii> -a does -dpR so stuff in /dev and so on can also be copied
[21:11] <genii> (also permissions get preserved, etc)
[21:12] <ActionParsnip> gotcha
[21:14] <joshuajtl> anyone know where i can find k3b kde4 ?
[21:20] <ActionParsnip> !find k3b
[21:43] <killer_of_noob> hello all how active pci card
[21:45] <killer_of_noob> salut tout le monde
[21:45] <BluesKaj> !fr | killer_of_noob
[21:50] <killer_of_noob> hi how switch on my pci card for wireless
[21:57] <BluesKaj> killer_of_noob, install wicd network manager
[21:58] <BluesKaj> !info wicd
[22:05] <Serpardum> Is there some way I can tell kubuntu (or is it vbox?) to quit sticking my windows to the edge of the screen?
[22:31] <noaXess> is there a diffrent between sun-java6 package and the java package that i can download from www.java.com?
[22:33] <noaXess> !info sun-java6
[22:41] <YoShiy> hello #kubuntu, i have some weird problem with my sound on 9.04 Jaunty. The most time i have no sound, but when i start playing something with amarok2 all other apps can use sound... i googled already for 2 hours, so any help is appreciated ^^
[22:43] <YoShiy> this is a fresh install btw, oh and the sound in flash applications, like on youtube, works always :/
[22:44] <YoShiy> only amarok/dragon player remain muted.. the test sound option in systemsettings/multimedia doesnt work too
[23:04] <pteague> what's a good tool for converting an mp3 that k3b can't convert to wav for burning to a CD?
[23:10] <Caliostro> pteague, I'm using 'audacity' for audio editing purposes.
[23:15] <pteague> i found that ffmpeg will convert it ok fairly easily
[23:22] <Caliostro> pteague, then good luck :)
[23:24] <reagleBRKLN> i'm trying google chrome from ppa, pretty nice but all fonts are antialiased, which I find fuzzy. any way to turn it off, at least for < 16pt?
[23:25] <GS3User007> I ran "sudo update-grub" to ensure that my system was going to use the kernel I just installed, but now the machine boots to a prompt that says "grub>". What's wrong, and how do I fix it?
[23:36] <GS3User007> I ran "sudo update-grub" to ensure that my system was going to use the kernel I just installed, but now the machine boots to a prompt that says "grub>". What's wrong, and how do I fix it?
[23:42] <GS3User007> when i attempt to "cat /boot/grub/menu.lst" i get an error message that says "Error 24: Attempt to access block outsie partition"
[23:48] <BluesKaj> GS3User007, does sudo-update grub give an error ?
[23:48] <BluesKaj> err sudo update-grub
[23:49] <GS3User007> i can't really run it anymore... i'm stuck at the grub prompt. i don't know how to access the grub menu, nor tell it to boot to the OS
[23:49] <GS3User007> (i'm on a different computer atm)
[23:49] <BluesKaj> grub prompt ?
[23:50] <Caliostro> htGS3User007, try this to figure out http://jaykinzer.blogspot.com/2008/08/grub-error-24-attempt-to-access-block.html
[23:50] <GS3User007> i rebooted after installing a kernel update and doing a "sudo update-grub" to ensure that the latest kernel would show up in the grub menu. after reboot, i'm stuck at a screen that says "grub>"
[23:50] <GS3User007> it's a prompt, and there are a small selection of commands that can be run, but i don't know how to use them
[23:51] <Caliostro> GS3User007, there's an explanation how to use that commands ;)
[23:52] <Caliostro> GS3User007, Can you edit /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[23:53] <GS3User007> Caliostro: unfortunately, the first step in the link is to hit escape before the menu attempts to load... that doesn't seem to be doing anything for me
[23:54] <GS3User007> Caliostro: i don't even know how to access that file from the grub prompt, nevermind edit it... i can't cd or ls
[23:54] <ntrfug> Good evening. I'm trying to create a kernel package for Hardy, and I'm not having much luck.
[23:54] <BluesKaj> GS3User007, try,  find /boot/grub/stage1
[23:55] <GS3User007> BluesKaj: (hd0,1)
[23:55] <Caliostro> GS3User007, try to change grub config from another OS on you machine or from LiveOS ;)
[23:55] <ntrfug> Where are the files that were formerly found in <linux-source>/debian?
[23:55] <GS3User007> Caliostro: no other OS, partition is ext4... currently dling karmic, but that's going to take a while
[23:56] <BluesKaj> GS3User007, setup (hd0,1)
[23:57] <GS3User007> BluesKaj: that found some things, failed to find some other things (but said that it wasn't fatal), and the installed menu.lst
[23:57] <GS3User007> BluesKaj: should i try a reboot now...?
[23:57] <BluesKaj> GS3User007,  quit
[23:58] <BluesKaj> then reboot
[23:58] <GS3User007> BluesKaj: can't quit, it's an unrecognized command, but i can reboot
[23:58] <BluesKaj> ok
[23:58] <GS3User007> BluesKaj: no luck, back at grub prompt