[00:18] trying out kvirc , very colourful but more user friendly than the last time I tried it [00:26] dose anyone know how to make a shortcut to a console command [00:27] Making a shortcut to a shellscript would do what you want beyondcr. [00:28] Just add the command(s) you want to run as part of the script. [00:28] is there a easy way to do that === dani is now known as Guest53770 [00:29] sorry im new at this [00:29] ia new too [00:30] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Beginners/BashScripting [00:31] That should cover the basics =3 [00:31] ty [00:31] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Beginners/BashScripting#Scripting <-- will take you right to what you want. [00:33] I'm going to go get my coffee fix, but if you have any problems just ask in the channel and someone should be able to help. [00:34] If it's a little slow in here, you can try asking in the #ubuntu channel, as it's the same for both ubuntu and kubuntu. [00:42] hi y'all, say, anyone else here has a problem with the display of the icons from the desktop folder in the desktop plasmoid? i just see them as preview of textfile, if i chose to show the home folder, everything is fine... [00:49] Hello everyone, i need to execute a lynx and close it after it finish loading the website. Which flag should I need? === jeiworth_ is now known as jeiworth [00:57] i'm getting an error when trying to install ia32-libs from the repo [01:12] Anybody home? [01:22] I tried installing the 2.6.30.3 kernel package from http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.30.3/ but when I go to install the nvidia kernel module, I get an error because the kernel was compiled with gcc 4.2 but I have 4.3 [01:23] any idea where I can get a working 2.6.30.3 kernel package short of manually compiling it? [01:31] Zxcvb: You could set CC=gcc-4.2 while installing the nvidia drivers. === flavio is now known as flaviosnm [01:32] Can I somehow set two different repeat rates for two keyboards? [01:33] i tried connecting my hdtv on my computer to use as a monitor but is not displaying, on my pc i use a vga 15 pin male to male cable what could be wrong? [01:37] How do I images my dual-booting XP and Kubuntu 9.04 ext4 filesystem? [01:50] has anyone used the kernel packages from http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.30.3/ ? [01:53] Nope, 2.6.30+ should be faster on server usage but yet i turned down to 8.0.42 Hoary from Fedora 11. [01:54] Usually good site to check benchmarks on new kernels and drivers is "www.phoronix.com" [01:55] jasa: other than that site, where else can you get 2.6.30+ kernel packages? [01:56] Zxcvb: Well those new drivers usually everyone compiles themselves, like dvb-api and sound drivers and some small bug fixes. [01:56] jasa: because using the package from http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.30.3/, the nvidia driver install gives a "gcc version check failed" error [01:57] http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_2631_rc2&num=2 (Early 2.6.31 benchmark) [01:58] jasa: I am not doing it for performance, I want the updated drivers [01:58] You could try those new beta drivers from nvidia, or what is the newest always. [01:59] jasa: no, the video4linux drivers for the wintv usb tuner [01:59] Zxcvb: WinTV-CI module ? Does it work in linux yet ? [02:00] jasa: it's an xc5000, but the analog tuner doesn't work with 2.6.28 === root is now known as Guest48832 [02:00] Zxcvb: You should not try to get a kernel that is compiled with 4.3 - Instead you should try to get the nvidia kernel module to compile with 4.2. [02:00] First, check whether you have gcc-4.2 installed. [02:01] but gcc --version is gcc (Ubuntu 4.3.3-5ubuntu4) 4.3.3 [02:02] type "which gcc-4.2" [02:02] nothing [02:02] Zxcvb: Nods, i have the troublesome HVR-4000 that does indeed work now, yet if i could get some good cccam share lines or would get that CI module and get Viasat shared to my comp from other room. -.- [02:02] If that gives you no output then "sudo apt-get install gcc-4.2" [02:02] And then try "sudo CC=gcc-4.2 ./NVIDIA-blah.run" [02:03] isn't gcc 4.3 the default for jaunty? [02:04] gcc (GCC) 4.2.4 (Ubuntu 4.2.4-1ubuntu4) here. [02:05] You said your kernel was compiled with 4.2 [02:05] Yeah, you need to compile both kernel and modules with same gcc. [02:06] also, how would I download a bunch of packages and all their dependancies (other than those already on the install dvd) for later use? [02:06] For later use, use some ftp mirroring tool to download those locally ? [02:08] I'm quite sure there is a simpler way, but you could use apt-get's --download-only option and then copy the downloaded packages from your apt cache. [02:08] Btw I have a question too: Can I somehow set two different repeat rates for two keyboards? [02:09] el: the only catch is that the target system is 32 bit (netbook with newer atheros card) and my current system is x86_64 [02:09] el: i think xinput command with specified pci id could do that. [02:09] el: I guess the easiest way would be to install the 32 bit kubuntu in a virtual machine [02:13] jasa: wierd, attempting to remove gcc-4.3-base and gcc-4.3 would remove the whole system here [02:14] Zxcvb: Yeah i hate depencies like that, i would have shot down libasound too and compiled new one, but doesn't like that. [02:14] Well why would you want to remove gcc-4.3? [02:15] Why don't you just install gcc-4.2 in addition? [02:15] Zxcvb: And if you accidently do something like that with recompiling you need to reinstall package from apt-get. -.- [02:15] Zxcvb: I would guess there would be package called "compat-gcc-42" there. [02:17] jasa: what arch are you on? [02:18] i386 or is that i586 ... well basic one still cause everything hasn't been transformed to x86_64 world yet. [02:18] that might be it then, I am on x86_64 and gcc-4.3 is on the cd [02:19] is it possible to have modules compiled with a different gcc than the kernel? [02:20] I would consider not, they would have those undefined symbol issues or similiar things in them if trying to load. [02:20] But i might be wrong on that. [02:23] Well you could install newest nvidia drivers from medibuntu repo too if you wouldn't like to compile, they work atleast. [02:24] Did you try what I said? Install gcc-4.2 alongside 4.3 and use CC=gcc-4.2 while running nvidia installer? [02:30] el: not yet [02:32] Oh I hate this damn Atheros chipset. It just disconnects randomly... [02:33] I know what you're saying my computera has an Atheros chipset [02:34] el_: which one? [02:36] AR928X [02:36] el_: netbook? [02:37] Notebook ;) [02:39] you wouldn't happen to know how to tell what gcc version modules were compiled with, would you? [02:39] cat /proc/version [02:46] kinfocenter isn´t included automatically in KU 904 - shouldn´t it be??? Are any of the KUbuntu developers in this channel, & reading this message?? [02:51] kub1, right click on the kmenu and choose menu editor , that's about as close it gets to kinfocenter [02:52] i wish if a package installing needd you to answer a question, it would be saved to last [02:53] hi folks, whats the difference if i install kubuntu via kubuntu-dvd or desktop-cd ? [02:53] joshua__: the media [02:54] jeff___: so nothing else? exact same apps etc? [02:55] jeff___: ? [02:56] joshua__, https://wiki.kubuntu.org/FAQ [02:56] joshua__: i would assumn that the DVD has more apps on it, but i dunna [02:56] thx [02:58] BluesKaj: i dont see how that answers the question [03:02] well, sorry, try google for dvd releases vs cds [03:04] joshua__, I think the dvd has more basic apps so the install doesn't have to go on the internet to the repos to being all the dependencies along etc [03:05] being = bring === root is now known as Guest24667 [03:07] can anyone please tell me where i can find md5sums for the isos? [03:09] Are any KU developers here? [03:12] Anyone here? [03:12] kub1: Kubuntu developers are in #kubuntu-devel [03:13] Question: Does the ubuntu install CD offer full hard drive encryption on installation? using dm-crypt? [03:19] This is going to sound stupid, but how does one move things around in the panel? [03:28] eth0 has stopped working on my desktop box. ifconfig eth0 says unkonwn interface. kinfocenter shows no eth0 . Network manager shows ¨new wired connection - never used¨ - any suggestions?? thx [03:28] megumi: In KDE4 you have to click the rightmost button in you panel (the half-circle shaped one) [03:29] It says nothing about moving icons. [03:29] click and drag [03:30] null: Does not work clicking and dragging. [03:30] click and drag harder, with passion [03:31] null: Nothing. [03:31] nevermind [03:31] I have to click the button L mentioned. [03:31] el [03:31] Is there any way to install kde3? [03:32] I hate this jkde4 [03:32] Yeah me too [03:32] Is there any way possible other than compiling from source? [03:33] What is the name for the people who create the KDE system for Ubuntu - Packagers? Developers? Other??? [03:33] I dunno but they need to take kde4 back for a while [03:33] poopieheads [03:34] just do a sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop-environment [03:34] But I want Kde3 [03:34] Not gnome. [03:34] nope [03:34] you can have xfce tho [03:34] Gnome and XFce do not do it for me. [03:34] sorry [03:34] Xfce > Gnome [03:34] kde4, gnome, or xfce [03:34] KDE 3 was superior. [03:35] yeah well it's old [03:35] get with the times [03:35] Are there any KUbuntu develpers here? [03:35] your feedback matterz 0 [03:35] That is very supportive [03:36] Kde 3 may be old but at least the bugs were not as many and it didnt take 3 actions to move an icon in the panel. === adam is now known as Guest12055 [03:45] Can I somehow set two different repeat rates for two keyboards? === adam is now known as Guest65458 === Guest65458 is now known as Adola [04:04] hi, is the resizing smooth solved in 4.3 RC3? [04:10] hi, is the resizing smooth solved in 4.3 RC3? [04:18] I just installed Kubuntu on my laptop and I'm having trouble getting Network Manager to connect to my WPA2-PSK network... I've got wpasupplicant installed. Any ideas? [04:25] Onyx: try again [04:25] marchou: no [04:25] darthanubis: anything helpful? [04:26] I answered you repeat question. What else you want? [04:27] darthanubis and there is any plan for solving it [04:28] ? [04:28] isn't there always a plan for solving a bug? [04:30] for solving the resize widgets for too look smooth [04:31] darthanubis for solving the resize widgets for too look smooth [04:31] I sawit the first time [04:31] !repeat [04:31] Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience [04:32] wher are u ppl from? [04:32] rtk take it to #kde-offtopic [04:34] Can't help but think how much of a cheesey name ubottu is everytime I see it, heh. [04:35] Humm, the release date for the new KDE is soon I believe? I'm a ex-kde user who is now using gnome - still struggling for an excuse to switch back. [04:37] StupidWeasel: I never was a big KDE user in 98' but I now love KDE4x [04:38] Left Gnome about 2 weeks ago. I just miss good systems monitors for KDE though [04:38] Heh funny how it works huh? Everyone has their own preferences =3 [04:39] I think KDE 4 has simplified the interface a little too much, even more then gnome. [04:39] uh no, that was not the point. The point was, if you needed a reason I gave you one [04:40] I still mostly use KDE based apps though such as kvirc and k3b. [04:40] and now "simplicity" is not a good thing? [04:40] Simplicity is fine, as long as it does not impact on functionality. [04:41] I did not use ANY KDE apps until two weeks ago [04:41] When things start to get hidden away to make things "simple" you have to worry. [04:41] KDE 4 is great [04:42] I don't know. I am able to do everything in KDE that I did in Gnome [04:42] KWIN is faster and slicker and more stabel than Compiz [04:42] widgets but screenlets to shame [04:42] Probably me being a grumpy bugger more then anything, and refusing to take time to adjust to new things. [04:42] eyecandy KDE wins [04:43] Ahh I don't really go for eyecandy. [04:43] Amarok is cool [04:44] can somebody help me set up Nepomuk to use Strigi for Desktop Search. [04:44] i haven't for the life of me been able to get Strigi to run. [04:44] ever [04:44] im currently running 9.04 with kde 4.3 rc3 [04:45] Is there an easy way to install kde without all the clutter of bundled applications that you get with installing kubuntu-desktop [04:46] it'd probably not be a bad idea for me to actually keep a proper eye on both gnome and kde, and switch between them at my leasure [04:46] no bad idea at all [04:54] ahh well going to go get some shuteye. [04:55] See you guys around. [04:58] did any one ever patch their wireless drivers? [04:58] i really need some help [05:00] beyondcr: I've messed with wireless drivers. What do you have? [05:00] zydas [05:01] Alex135: How is kde 4.3? [05:01] Better? [05:02] howdy [05:43] hey [05:44] we speak spanish [05:47] how do I delete a folder via terminal? [05:47] !es [05:47] En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es. [05:47] Adola: rmdir if it's empty [05:48] DaskreeCH What if it's not empty? [05:48] then it ges trickier :) [05:48] rm -r [05:51] Da\ [05:52] DaskreeCH: I keep rm -r'ng a directory with a httpd.conf~ file in it, and teh file keeps coming back, maybe it doesn't get deleted, but, the terminal returns no errors. [05:52] What are you trying to get rid of? [05:53] apache2 (I had some wonky httpd.conf file, and everytime I re-install apache2, that file remains the same, so, im' going to delete the file now that I uninstalled it again) [05:54] Adola: apt-get remove apache2 --purge ? [05:55] DaskreeCH: That didn't do it. === sean is now known as Guest75379 [05:55] Why can't I delete httpd.conf~ [05:55] ah well then sudo rm it [06:25] hi all.. im trying to install kubuntu for the first time. i've downloaded the latest CD, but cant get any of the options to boot properly [06:26] ive tried live cd, install, etc.. ive also used the "safe video driver" option, but they all load for about 1 minute, then the screen goes black [06:26] i have 2 screens.. on the left its black.. on the right its just colored stripes.. no keystrokes or mouse movements change anything.. i have to hit the reset button [06:27] any suggestions on how to get past this? [06:27] i downloaded version 9.04 [06:29] ShockValue: you have two monitors hooked up? [06:33] i do, yes [06:34] ill try and disconnect and see if that helps [06:50] disconnecting the 2nd motinor worked, thank you === hemathor_ is now known as hemathor [07:20] hello i got 1 problem with zynga poker in facebook: the app doesnt wanna load, i checked with vista and it seems it uses the last version of adobe flash player, can someone help me install it? (i am using firefox) [07:46] !ocr [07:46] OCR software for Ubuntu includes Tesseract, Ocrad and GOcr. GNOME users can use 'gocr-gtk' as a front-end to GOcr, while KDE users have Kooka available as a front-end to Ocrad and GOcr. [07:47] !info kooka [07:47] Package kooka does not exist in jaunty [07:47] ok.. what is a good ocr tool? so kooka doesn't exist in jaunty.. should i use gocr-gtk? [07:48] !info gocr-gtk [07:48] Package gocr-gtk does not exist in jaunty [07:48] grr. [08:02] dose anyone know how to patch wireless drivers im about to pull my hair out [08:07] Is kubuntu any good ? [08:07] yes [08:07] i love it [08:07] Better then ubuntu or about the same? [08:08] i tryed both and i prefer k [08:08] Thats tight [08:08] Its installing now [08:08] get your updates reboot [08:09] then get you video drivers right [08:09] ok [08:09] if you have a ati or nvidia get envyng === desti_T2 is now known as desti [08:09] i have ati [08:10] after your updates and reboot then go to kpackagekit and get envyng qt and core then enable the recommended driver [08:10] Hey, how can I install a .deb via terminal instead of a program? [08:10] then make sure you reboot [08:18] all i see in net/wireless//zd1211rw is Kconfig and Makefile dose anyone know why that is? === adam is now known as Guest37643 === Guest37643 is now known as Adola [08:39] hi, i have a problem with the "system activity" of the krunner: since i have a program which uses more than 1GB, it displays a negative use of memory === BOZG1 is now known as BOZG [08:52] Is there any solution to save or backup packages and updates which are downloaded by Kubuntu 9.04 package manager? [08:53] i dont know i cant get the themes in kubuntu to fully change [08:56] hey will kubuntu run on 256 meg of ram in vbox? [09:00] thats not to much ram old [09:01] ya i know, i just want to know if it will load, ill probably end up using xfce after its installed. [09:02] i dont know to be for sure [09:03] i got kubuntu installed tho in vbox [09:04] im just really testing to see if vbox is working right so far...ill add more memory to it later. [09:10] o ok [09:10] Hi, people :) [09:13] !hello [09:13] Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu! [09:14] i wish i could get the themez to change fully [09:16] Does anybody know which kubuntu repos are the best? ) [09:20] I've added a few strange repositories to /etc/apt/sources.list and my update manager can't download updates =) [09:21] I'm newbie in kubuntu. My previous systems were windows & fedora :) === jr is now known as Riddell === maximo is now known as Maximo [09:41] What is the matter of this conference if here's quite silence? ;) [09:44] Caliostro: this is a support channel only, not for discussion [09:44] well 256 meg of memory will work, doggier then crap, so defiantly will have to add more memory ...or use xfce as my desktop. [09:45] Caliostro: also you should stick with the official repositories if you are new to Linux === morice-net_ is now known as morice-net [09:46] oldude67: watch your language, just say "256 Mb of memory will work only slowly" [09:48] dose anyone have experiance in patching wireless drivers? [09:50] Mamarok, I see. I'm not new to Linux but to ubuntu ;) [09:55] Caliostro: so what problems do you have with what repositories? [10:03] Mamarok, I've just found one I needed - medibuntu ;) [10:03] ok [10:05] si supuetamente es profesional pero no tiene midi [10:05] como voy a #ubuntustudio?? [10:06] !es | PIPON13 [10:06] PIPON13: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es. === anthony is now known as antotojo === antotojo is now known as antotot [10:22] bonjour, j'ai besoin d'aide svp [10:22] il y a quelqu'un ? [10:22] oui, mais c'es tun channel anglais [10:22] :) [10:23] antotot: quel est ton problème? [10:23] je voudrais changer mon fond ecran kubuntu [10:23] Why I cannot download any theme (emoticons, ksplash) from KDE menu? [10:24] mais je sais pas comment on fait [10:24] antotot: ah bah ça va, ta machine n'est pas sur le point d'exploser ;) [10:24] When I press button "Download", nothing happens [10:25] oui e sais, c'est pas un grand proble =D ya bocoup plus pire [10:25] antotot: click droit sur le bureau => réglages du bureau (ou un truc du genre , "desktop settings" en anglais) [10:25] Caliostro: where is that? [10:26] raphink: merci beaucoup [10:26] raphink, in system settings [10:26] sa marche :) [10:26] where in system settings? [10:27] raphink, in start menu :) [10:27] Caliostro: my question was not "where IS system settings", but "where IN system settings" [10:27] system settings has quite a few modules ;) [10:28] je peu poser une autre question ? [10:29] tu peux toujours essayer [10:29] tu verras bien si ça marche ;) [10:29] System settings -> first left icon on the top (like Overwiev in english) -> emoticons === jr is now known as RIddell [10:30] ok, in Appearance [10:30] j'arrive pas a installer le plug-in java pour mozilla firefox [10:31] there's a button "Download new themes...". Yeah, just forgot :) [10:31] let's see [10:31] works for me on jaunty Caliostro [10:31] I just installed the kadu penguins theme [10:31] antotot: avec le paquet? [10:32] raphink, me too :) But I need ICQ 6.5 smiles and others ))) [10:33] non depuis le site d'ubuntu (documentation) [10:33] Caliostro: seems to be a problem with the ICQ 6.5 archive [10:33] doesn't work for me either [10:33] Caliostro: you could try to grab it manually from kde-look and import the zip [10:34] raphink, I'll try. And where to place them? ) [10:34] Caliostro: use the "Install theme" button instead of "Get new themes" [10:35] raphink, OK [10:36] raphink, antotot please keep it English [10:36] Mamarok: it seems antotot doesn't speak english, and the french channel was closed some months ago [10:37] i cant speek english [10:37] well, there are french speaking channels for that [10:37] Mamarok: I don't really want to leave a user behind based on the fact that they don't speak english [10:37] raphink: there *is* a french speaking channel: @ubuntu-fr [10:37] raphink: ils disent quoi ? [10:37] Mamarok: where most users use GNOME and cannot help with KDE [10:38] raphink: then take it to a query, this channel is English only [10:38] I'll talk to antotot in private next time [10:38] antotot: parles en privé avec raphink s.t.p, ce canal est anglais uniquement [10:38] Doh, ICQ 6.5 smiles archive has broken link or missing on the server :( [10:38] Caliostro: that would explain [10:39] ok Mamarok, i go to french channel [10:39] is the solution for playing wma files in amarok install kubuntu-restricted-extras? [10:39] where is the french channel ? [10:40] please [10:40] (and many other pretty archives) [10:40] antotot: #ubuntu-fr [10:40] thanks =) [10:40] raphink: if there are enough French speaking KDE users you should make a #kubuntu-fr channel [10:40] only there have to be enough people around [10:40] goodbye =) [10:41] yes I know about that Mamarok [10:42] raphink: I volunteer for help there, too :) [10:42] sure ;) [10:42] I just like to help people when I can, and I don't like to send them to channels where I'm not and they might not get an answer when I'm able to give them an answer [10:43] now when a channel is crowded with people and has tons of messages a minute, I'm happy to just go away to solve a problem [10:43] but when there's practically nothing happening, it's a pain to move away just for a few minutes [10:43] but that's just my point, and I know the policy you want people to follow [10:43] anyonehere able to answer my question? [10:43] been there, done that, managed these very channels myself in the past ;) [10:43] snarkster: what is your question? [10:44] raphink: is the solution for playing wma files in amarok install kubuntu-restricted-extras? [10:44] ah, no idea, sorry [10:47] snarkster: you need taglib-extrs for the wmv format [10:47] taglib-extras* [10:49] thank you [10:50] snarkster: yaw :) [10:51] have you ever seen dragonplayer complete hardlock a computer? [11:04] can anyone here help me with patching a driver? === Walzmyn is now known as walzmyn [11:09] do i need some source to patch wireless drivers i dont see any drivers in the kernel.... [11:21] hi [11:22] ..... where can i find kernel sources [11:22] i need to patch a driver.... [11:26] who likes icecream? [11:30] update-notifier-kde is using 117Mb resident, ew [11:32] hi, i have an internet problem, sometimes after a while, it seems that the dns goes down so i can't browse anymore. Just now it went down and i can't ping www.google.com but i'm still connected (unknown host) [11:34] === forge_ is now known as ForgeAus [11:38] Hello i need help [11:39] Can someone help me out im trying to connect to internet [11:39] But im using a router [11:39] Hello [11:39] ??? [11:39] Dator? [11:39] using a router should help you connect to the internet... generally speaking [11:40] do you know the IP of the device? [11:40] Yes but i dont know how to setup my internet connection on kubuntu i have always used windows before [11:40] Yes i know the ip [11:40] is it DHCP? [11:40] Dont know [11:40] DHCP?? [11:40] How do i know if its dhcp? [11:40] ok before, did you have to tell the router what IP your comptuer was when you set it up? [11:41] I dont think so , i had an ip before when i was using windows its the same still [11:41] (sorry I mean tell windows what IP the computer was) [11:41] I just dont know how to tell my kubuntu === phh_ is now known as phh [11:41] so you have a static IP, that your service provider tells you? [11:41] Yes it was 192.168.0.113 [11:41] ok in system settings [11:41] ok [11:41] theres network applet there, brb.. I'll find it myself so I know what I'm talking about [11:42] Okey :) [11:43] lol, just my luck network settings created an error when I loaded it! [11:43] anyway network settings does that show up in your system-settings? [11:44] I have not checked be right back [11:44] there should be a section of it that shows interfaces (one named /eth0 somtimes even more like /eth1 and so on) [11:47] Lol [11:47] I cant get my computer to run properly [11:47] It says in dos that NTDLR is missing [11:47] What can be the problem? [11:47] yes there is eth0 and eth1 sometimes [11:47] But they fail to connect [11:48] ntldr is the program windows uses to start itseful up [11:48] its called a boot manger [11:48] Hmm its missing how do i fix it? [11:48] kubuntu uses something called GRUB instead [11:48] Ok [11:48] no its likely that it isn't missing actually [11:48] But i have installed a fresh copy of kubuntu [11:48] !grub [11:48] GRUB is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto [11:48] Maybe i can find it in bios? [11:49] (you can either take a snapshot of your grub loader and place it as a file in Ntldr (the hard way), or let grub handle ntldr for you .. however... the ntldr missing thing is an issue you might need fixed before you fix grub... [11:49]