[00:00] Oh I thought it was just my version that din't have them [00:00] since DanaG share his : http://files.getdropbox.com/u/112892/compiz11.profile [00:01] hmm, think I'll boot into W7 and do some looking around [00:01] WARNING: YOUR SYSTEM WILL AUTODESTROY AFTER 2 SECS WITH THIS COMPIZ PROFILE :P [00:01] see you guys on the other side :) [00:01] windows 7 is nice but I only am going to use it on my desktop [00:01] server = debian or the next LTS from ubuntu, laptop= ubuntu, media center = arch linux [00:02] I really like arch linux but the constant updates cause too many breaks for practical use [00:02] I just have one system I actively use. [00:02] And it's the one I'm on now. [00:02] I only use my desktop for games and graphics really, I do all my work on my laptop [00:02] Gah. I wish people would stop breaking things [00:03] gnome-sound-properties has vanished and now there is nowhere to configure your sound theme [00:04] for 9.10? [00:05] Well, I do hate how now I can't have the gnome volume control bind to hda-intel directly. [00:05] DanaG: +1 [00:05] Max is 0.00db, min is -89.1db. [00:05] That's pretty absurd. [00:06] s/db/dB/ [00:06] And where's gnome-volume-control? [00:06] whoa, compiz is a bit out of date [00:06] er compiz website [00:06] 50% is -45dB. [00:07] So, an entire half of the volume range is basically too quiet. [00:07] i can open gnome-volume-control fine through command line, but that is in 9.04 ;) [00:07] duncan__: maybe cause they are code hackers not web desiners? [00:08] BUGabundo, just saying :P [00:09] maxb: The replacement sound properties applet is horribly broken. [00:15] hmm [00:15] RSS in evolution is a bit iffy [00:15] Oh yeah, where'd the disk mounter applet go? [00:15] DanaG: I have it [00:15] What's the package? [00:15] hey mndo. bem bindo [00:16] no idea DanaG :p [00:16] !find disk-mounter [00:16] Package/file disk-mounter does not exist in karmic [00:16] !find disk-mount [00:16] Package/file disk-mount does not exist in karmic [00:16] * DanaG gives up. [00:16] heh [00:16] ... so as not to spam the channel. [00:16] we don't mind ;) [00:17] BUGabundo, hi there! [00:17] DanaG: you *do* know that you can /msg ubottu? :P [00:17] duncan__: but OPs do [00:17] !find mountmanager [00:17] Found: mountmanager [00:17] and there's apt-cache search [00:20] this Kvirc seems easier to use than i remember ...colourful too [00:21] heh, that's amusing, AVG destroying iTunes [00:21] duncan__: the windows are a bit herky jerky on W7 build 7100 [00:21] duncan__: OT [00:21] BluesKaj, weird I didn't notice it on my desktop [00:22] Now, I wish I could fix the danged INITRAMFS! [00:23] yeah thats a nasty thingy inside your computer, its like a rat who is seeking for food [00:23] duncan__: interesting i had a browser window on top of the chat page, when you answered and your text showed up in a little dialog box in bottom right hand corner [00:24] BluesKaj, nice, IRC client feature? [00:24] yeah, cool [00:27] never been a mirc fan and xchat has pukey colours that i'm too lazy to edit , but so far Kvirc seems to be the solution to my windows IRC Client [00:27] I just use Pidgin [00:27] no colors here AFAIK [00:27] hehe, on wondows ? [00:27] i've always used xchat I think i'm just used to the colors [00:28] pidgin works fine on windows last time I checked [00:28] really never did the IM thing much anyway [00:29] msn and googletalk for me, on a side note, how is the pidgin replacement in 9.10? [00:31] empathy is junk [00:31] * BUGabundo $ rsync -a /home/BUGabundo /dev/bed [00:31] but soon it will support audio/video cat [00:31] evening all [00:31] i'm kind of curious why they are opting to get rid of pidgin as the default? [00:32] lousy upstream support [00:32] better intergration on gnome [00:32] ah [00:32] AV support [00:32] all good reasons ;) [00:34] duncan__, you should have seen the backlash from everyone like a month ago when they decided to switch to empathy. [00:35] duncan__, since empathy wasnt yet ready for primetime, but should be ready by the time 9.10 is released [00:36] nhasian, hehe I can imagine, alot of people like pidgin. I've been out of the ubuntu scene for a while, was using Arch linux for a long time [00:37] but I don't get backlash to things like that. remove the packages and install which ever one you want :p [00:37] duncan__, i hear Arch is pretty good but i havent tried it yet. when i first tested empathy 2.27.2 it wouldnt even connect to yahoo or msn. but it is very usable now in only a few weeks time [00:37] quick question , .. is there an easy uninstall for karmik and reinstall to jaunty in case this blows up lol [00:38] mob, nope [00:38] mob, afaik you cannot downgrade any version of ubuntu [00:38] so no sudo apt uninstall ;[ [00:39] mob as long as you have a separate /home partition then installing a new ubuntu is easy [00:39] nhasian, arch is very good but it takes more time than I like to maintain, constant updates, etc... especially when using KDE4 and having a version upgrade every month with 600mb to download, I'm happy sitting back with ubuntu 9.04 with a upgraded kernel and some other configuration done [00:40] k ty sounding like not a good idea , but still want to see if it fixes my intel video issues [00:41] mob why not just try upgrading your kernel inside of 9.04? [00:41] ? [00:41] noob here [00:41] one moment [00:41] mob: you should be able to check that with the live cd/usb [00:41] duncan__, arch doesnt even have a gui installed by default? [00:42] nhasian, nope, you get a base system and then install the packages you want [00:42] duncan__: that sounds somewhat like gentoo [00:42] mob, yeah i hear karmic has a lot of improvements for intel graphics adaptors [00:42] nhasian, arch is about as close as you can get to plain unpatched linux without having to compile from source [00:43] mob, i have an nvidia adaptor so i cant take advantage of the new goodies for intel cards yet [00:43] i got a dinosaure here 82830m gcc rev 4 ..8 meg i think [00:43] yofel, aye the main difference between arch and gentoo is that gentoo is source based and arch is binary [00:45] hard to add an adapter to a laptop lol [00:45] if i could ... [00:45] mob, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1161856 download the packages from here http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ and when you reboot it should load into the new kernel by default [00:45] does that mean that everytime you install something on gentoo you have to compile it? [00:45] nhasian, yes everything has to compile [00:45] give it a shot [00:46] what a waste of processing time [00:46] duncan__: mob for better intel performance you don't only need the new kernel [00:46] you also need new intel driver xserver mesa ... [00:46] ill be back 4 that lol [00:47] nhasian, that's why I used arch, as it's binary [00:47] nhasian, same concept, no compiling necessary [00:47] mob: you could try new kernel with x-edgers ppa, but that's pretty unstable [00:48] I had to upgrade my kernel as no kernel prior to 2.6.30 allows my laptop to work properly for bootup and sleep/hibernate [00:50] i guess mob went to go install karmic [00:50] x-edgers? [00:51] nhasian, I hope not as all he wants is fixed intel performance :p [00:51] alteregoa: https://edge.launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa [use at own risk] [00:52] i've been pretty happy with karmic so far guess i've just been lucky [00:52] intel fixes those atom cpus thanks to those heads at intel atom cpu with 8w tdp but everything included vga/northbridge/sbridge/dualcore/ht [00:53] alteregoa, what issues are you having with atoms? my mediacenter which is atom based has been working fine for 5+ months [00:54] nhasian: mee too actually, eeePC works fine, thinkpad learned how to suspend without crashing, some tings are annoying but well, alpha [00:54] yeah like my cdburner doesnt work yet... but hopefully after the brasero update it will work again [00:54] yofel, what chipset was the thinkpad? [00:55] duncan__: lspci http://pastebin.com/f694b14fe [00:56] yofel, did you also have issues with it booting and shutting down when on battery power? [00:57] duncan__: nope [00:57] i have issues with the chipsets [00:57] those chipsets consume itself 20w or up [00:57] yofel, until the most recent kernel my notebook would die when trying to suspend or hibernate and would halt on shutdown and bootup unless I held down a key or had AC plugged in [00:58] was incredible obnoxious [00:59] duncan__: well, until carmic suspend/hibernate crashed and on shutdown it would hang ~20s before poweroff thanks to the nvidia driver [01:00] that reminds me... there was another issue that sometimes when booting the kernel would permanently turn on the pcspkr -> wtf? [01:00] yeah, kernel team has done a great job with .30 and .31 so far [01:00] fixed alot of issues all at once [01:06] yofel, http://pastebin.com/m5a7311d [01:07] well apparently I pasted twice in there but you get the point ;) [01:09] duncan__: you could use pastebinit to prevent that :P [01:10] :D [01:14] hmm, is 9.10 going to include firefox 3.5.x [01:14] duncan__: it's already included, just not default, but will be for release [01:14] !info firefox-3.5 karmic [01:14] firefox-3.5 (source: firefox-3.5): safe and easy web browser from Mozilla. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.5.1+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 931 kB, installed size 3580 kB [01:15] that's good :) I tried the 3.5 package in 9.04 but integration was a bit messed up and extensions were broken [01:15] !info firefox-3.5 jaunty [01:15] firefox-3.5 (source: firefox-3.5): safe and easy web browser from Mozilla. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.5.1+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.9.04.1 (jaunty), package size 907 kB, installed size 3524 kB [01:16] ah, finally got updated... it was still the beta4 a while ago... [01:16] yeah [01:16] when I installed it, it was 3.5.1 [01:17] 3.5 is nice a speedy, and I like the private browsing option instead of having to wipe history [01:18] it sure is speedier here, but auto scrolling (middle click) is broken [uses a lot of cpu and scrolls slowly while lagging] and the deatchable tabs work sometimes get in my way [01:19] hmm, I have always used manual middle mouse scrolling, so I haven't noticed that [01:20] weird it would mess up that much [01:20] actually it's not always broken, scrolling up works most of the time only scrolling downwards lags like that ~2s and works fine after that [01:21] maybe I'm just too fast for firefox and he doesn't like scrolling while the page still gets loaded? :P [01:21] wonder what is messed up in the code to cause that, especially since it is a regression [01:21] haha [01:21] maybe :p [01:22] it's funny, when chrome first came out I really liked it but firefox 3.5 has adopted all the features I liked in chrome [01:22] so i'll probably never touch chrome again [01:24] well, theres chromium for linux as well, but the only thing that I find better there are the detachable tabs, they work flawless in chromium while I sometimes need a few tries in ffx3.5 [01:24] yeah [01:24] hm wait, that seems fixed now [01:25] I think it's because firefox is emulating what chrome does, as in chrome each tab is a seperate process [01:26] but speaking of browsers, I really wish the KDE team would switch Konqueror over to webkit as when I was using kde4 khtml was massacring the webpages I visited [01:26] duncan__: yeah, that's a really neat feature of chromium IMHO, but since I use 64bit flash I haven't had a firefox crash in a long while so it's not that neccessary anymore [01:26] hehe [01:28] same goes for evolution, as it likes to shit itself when I try and use gecko for RSS feeds and when I used ghtml it eats webpages alive [01:28] I'm like >.> what happened to the formatting, it's like the made the webpage all one column when in ghtml [01:29] hm evolution... heard that it got better now, but switching from thunderbird would be too much work for me :P [01:29] o.O [01:29] * yofel fails to visualize that... [01:30] I personally don't see the point in developing ghtml and khtml when gecko and webkit both do an excellent job, are open source, and conform to standards [01:30] +1 [01:31] actually epiphany-webkit seems quite usable now, last time I tested it it would crash all the time [01:31] yeah, I tried to webkit addon for konqueror about 4-5 months ago and it exploded on me [01:32] I've decided to stay far away from KDE4 until it is completely stable and even then with the amount of work and polish the ubuntu team puts into integrating everything with gnome I lose alot of my interest in KDE4 [01:34] I remember booting into kde4 and having my entire desktop gone because my config file went wonky for no reason so I had to go into the command line and delete it and rebuild all my applets [01:35] hheh, I've tried kubuntu in every release so far, and 4.3 seems to be the first kde release thats actually usable, the previous ones had constant crashing and bad keyboard shortcut support here :( [01:35] yeah same [01:35] 4.3 seems to be what 4.0 should of been, but I feel more at home with gnome atm regardless [01:36] mee too, I guess I'm just too used to it after all that time... [01:36] KDE4 on a design level seems to over complicate some things [01:37] and since Qt 4.5 has gtk-style support I miss kde even less :) [01:37] I'm like, i'm a programmer by trade, getting my BA/MA in computer science. that doesn't mean I want to have to build my panels from scratch [01:37] ^^ [01:37] I tried gentoo once on my desktop pc [01:38] gnome offers enough flexibility and makes every days tasks thoughtless, like they should be. If I really want to do something fancy i'll be in the terminal anyways [01:38] but the only purpose I could find is if somebody wants to set up a really speacial configuration [01:38] other than that, it just increases my power bill -.- [01:39] gentoo, arch, slackware are very good distrobutions for learning linux, as you build your system from scratch and learn what does what and how to fix things if they break [01:39] will karmic include ruby 1.9.1? [01:39] or if you want bleeding edge software all the time, but i've learned to care less about that the older I get [01:40] and installing gnome on gentoo was like... 'emerge gnome' check that you didn't get recursive depends with your use flags and go to sleep [01:40] !find ruby [01:40] Found: libqt4-ruby1.8, libqt4-ruby1.8-dev, libruby1.8, libruby1.8-dbg, libruby1.9 (and 594 others) [01:40] only 1.9.0 is installed [01:40] and no one uses that :/ [01:40] its either 1.8+ or 1.9.1 [01:40] u have an entire rep for 1.9.0 and its useless ! :/ [01:41] yofel, haha yeah, that's why I used arch, it did almost everything gentoo does but is binary so it just downloads packages like any other rpm or deb based distro [01:42] well, I'm off to bed then too, good night [01:42] goodnight [02:17] duncan__, are you in Alaska , or do you just have a really good proxy setup ? :) [02:22] yofel, i'm actually installing gentoo right now :P [02:27] billybigrigger, I think yofel hit the sack [02:27] :P [02:27] he sure did [02:27] gentoo , why ? [02:27] dunno [02:27] messing around [02:27] hehe [02:27] have you tried it? [02:28] a long time ago before i realized that I had no clue what all the terms meant in the instructions , so I went wit debian [02:29] heh [02:29] I still don't see the point of it [02:30] i like the idea of building your system from scratch [02:30] it's prolly still over my head [02:31] (gnome-power-manager:12849): devkit-power-gobject-WARNING **: Couldn't suspend: failed to check authorisation: Remote Exception invoking org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1.Authority.CheckAuthorization() on /org/freedesktop/PolicyKit1/Authority at name org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1: org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1.Error.Failed: Action org.freedesktop.devicekit.power.suspend is not registered [02:31] like manually doing everything, partitioning, filesytems, compiling the kernel, installing the bootloader [02:31] tis fun stuff :P [02:32] partitioning isn't a problem , but compiling the kernel sounds a bit ambitious for my skills :) [02:33] It's right... there's nothing about devicekit in polkit control thingy! [02:33] it seems fairly easy to me [02:33] yargh. [02:33] BluesKaj, Sarvatt ran me through the basic's the other week [02:33] well, maybe I'm a bit gun-shy after the last time [02:34] haha [02:34] it's amazing how much crap and junk is built into ubuntu's kernel, but that's what you get for large hardware support [02:34] hmm, can one of you please check in system->admin->authorizations to see if there's anything "devicekit" there? [02:34] Sarvatt, knows his stuff , he would be the guy to get instruction from alright [02:34] DanaG, is this a powermanager thing? [02:35] DanaG, i'll help ya out, but i'm a desktop so i might not be of much help [02:35] My issue is suspend not working -- due to something missing between PolicyKit and DeviceKit. [02:35] All I see there are references to HAL power stuff.... not devkit. [02:35] what are you looking for in devkit [02:35] you want a screenshot of mine? [02:36] devkit>power>Suspend the System? [02:36] actually [02:37] its org>freedesktop>devicekit>power>Suspend the System [02:39] DanaG, ? [02:41] Oh yeah, mine has that category entirely missing! [02:41] org->freedesktop->hal->power is what I have. [02:42] i have o>f>hal>power-management>Suspend the System [02:42] also [02:42] Yeah, but I lack the devicekit ones. [02:42] which one trumps? [02:42] devkit over hal? [02:42] yeah, hal is being deprecated. [02:42] yes beacuse hal is deprecated [02:42] yeah exactly [02:42] What version is your devicekit-power package? [02:43] 009-1 [02:43] yeah [02:44] ah, had to kill the policykit daemon and restart it. [02:45] I had been using a PPA for devicekit-power, and had forgotten about it. [02:45] ahhhhhh [02:45] :P [02:45] you have o>f>devkit now then? [02:45] Yup. [02:45] That's why I wasn't going all "gripe gripe gripe" mode like I do when something's actually "pissing me off". =þ [02:46] I knew approximately how it was broken; I just needed that help to figure out a way to fix it. Thanks for the help. [02:47] np [02:48] argh... too hot here... can't sleep *-.- [02:48] billybigrigger: enjoy your gentoo expirience, already piked out your use flags? [02:49] just did my 1st reboot :P [02:49] Now, if only I could figure out why the 2.6.31 kernel ignores my initramfs image. [02:54] yofel, i don't have an use flags set [02:54] http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Kernel/2009-06/msg12523.html [02:54] I have the very same thing going on. [02:55] * DanaG tries nocrs... [02:56] * billybigrigger has no idea what nocrs is [03:02] hmm [03:12] yofel, you awake or did you try to go and sleep again? [03:13] still awake [03:13] heh [03:13] that was a while ago you were trying to sleep [03:15] yofel, haha i tried to emerge gnome and already getting nowhere, i'm ready to through gentoo out the door already [03:16] hmm getting annoyed with evolutions RSS abilities, anyone know of an RSS feed reader that uses either webkit or gecko? [03:16] billybigrigger, what prompted you to use gentoo? [03:16] duncan__, boredom [03:17] duncan__, thunderbird reads rrs iirc [03:17] I use evolution for mail [03:17] :P [03:17] billybigrigger, if you want a similar less painful experience try arch [03:17] billybigrigger: did you follow the installation handbook? [03:18] yofel, ya but the handbook leaves gnome install out [03:18] high [03:19] 400mb updates from last 2 days is fascinating [03:19] billybigrigger: yes, what you usually miss are the right use flags in you make.conf, you could start by trying to installing the xserver first ;) [03:20] morning mr. yofel [03:20] USE="X dbus gtk gnome hal avahi svg" [03:20] guess a working x server would be needed first :P [03:20] haha [03:20] yofel, thanks tips :P [03:20] Neither add_efi_memdesc nor nocrs fixed the initramfs stuff. :( [03:20] oh initramfs [03:20] lol, yeah, that's the beginning config, I had about 50 later on ^^ [03:21] yofel, i think i'll take duncan__'s suggestion and try out arch [03:21] billybigrigger: using 'emerge --pretend ' should show you the available/used/blocked use flags [03:21] i like the idea of install your system from scratch like gentoo does [03:21] I like not having to compile. [03:21] thats the problem of a monolithic kernel, if something fails, the whole system crashes [03:21] I tweak from the top down, not from the bottom up. =þ [03:22] billybigrigger: I found it a very nice expirience on how linux actually works, but other than that it was too much work for me keeping it working [03:23] yofel, agreed, good to play with and learn... even good to use if you have alot of time to dedicate to tweaking but in general not good for production [03:23] i got a problem from wake up from standby the wlan doesnt work [03:29] anyone know why I can't get dpkg to install? it keeps giving error code 1 while trying to install dpkg_1.15.3.1ubuntu1_amd64.deb [03:45] how is karmic doing these days ? not too bad ? adoptable ? [03:46] works good on my desktop [03:46] too good actually :P that i'm getting bored and installing gentoo in a vm [03:46] ok.. thank you [03:47] are jaunty medibuntu sources ok for karmic ? [03:48] can't comment, don't use that repo [03:50] Hmm, I'm still having the same issue of EFI-boot resulting in the kernel ignoring the initramfs image. [03:50] http://users.csc.calpoly.edu/~dgoyette/efiboot-30to31-unified.log [03:50] Diff of 'dmesg' between kernel versions. [03:51] can anyone help me get dpkg to upgrade? [03:52] DanaG, what is efi-boot anyway? [03:53] you seem to be having this problem for awhiel [03:53] It's when I boot using UEFI firmware mode, instead of the legacy BIOS-based way. [03:53] huzzah, nevermind, thank you launchpad [03:53] The most well-known user of [U]EFI is Apple, but my HP EliteBook has UEFI also. [03:56] http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2009-05/msg00812.html [03:57] "initrd must be kept on the memory area below 4g"... hmm, I actually have 4G of RAM. [04:07] why samba doesnt automaticly mount anything with UTF-8? [04:07] windows 9x times are over [04:21] heh someone knows a wireless mouse on 800mhz, or something? those crap at 2.4ghz is interfering with wlan [04:23] someone was smoking weed? the terminal is white default with the tango theme lol [04:40] is all that we see or seem a dream, but a dream within a dream? [04:41] anybody know if the older sound mixer applet is still around? [04:41] I'm having a heck of a time adjusting volume levels :( [04:59] * DanaG goes back to BIOS-based boot mode. [04:59] anyone know how to fix apport-collect : 401 error? [05:07] update-manager is saying: [05:08] "Downloaded 3256 kB of ..." [05:08] Downloaded 14.5MB of 2... [05:08] Oh, and it's jumping back and forth between a valued progress-bar and an indeterminate "bouncing" bar. [05:08] =þ [05:10] heh, another system is saying: [05:10] "The package information was last updated 223 days ago." [05:13] hehe! never knew 223 days ago Karmic even existed ;p [05:14] DanaG: that's kinda messed up :-) [05:14] Yeah. [05:14] It's the vbox repo that's confusing it. [05:14] Screwed-up authentication. [05:14] So, it marks it as having "not updated". =þ [05:15] DanaG: vbox repo.. WFM nice [05:25] Downloaded 556KB of 1... [05:25] Downloaded 2911KB of ... [05:25] =þ [05:25] Looks like it ran out of space. [05:25] DanaG: have you looked at the EFI page on the grub wiki? [05:25] Yeah, it recently broke between 2.6.30 and 2.6.31. [05:26] I was following the thread (mostly about Apple products, though) on the forums. [05:26] All else the same, I can still boot 2.6.30... and it still works. [05:26] 2.6.31 just won't acknowledge the initramfs image. [05:28] I love having a high-DPI display. [05:28] Besides simply being awesome... it also lets me MOCK things for breaking under high-DPI. =þ [05:28] s/MOCK/poke fun at/ [05:29] + Add card and port selection (Bastien Nocera) [05:29] spiffy. [05:30] can anyone tell me the rationale for replacing empathy with pidgin? [05:31] sorry, pidgin with empathy [05:38] ooh, gnome-volume-control has improved, somewhat. [05:38] Now it needs to have the move-to-different-endpoint feature of pavucontrol. =þ [05:38] And that notify-osd needs that GODAWFUL LAG fixed. [05:38] =þ [05:39] Connection failed: Connection terminated [05:39] Connection failed: Connection terminated [05:39] argh. [05:40] billybigrigger, hey figured out what was up with the system...:( had a hard drive failing and it was causing all kinds of errors. [05:41] every time [05:41] that'll do er :P [05:42] Interesting... the results of twiddling the "subwoofer" slider in gnome-volume-control are non-deterministic. [05:42] so now that i get all my stuff off the flash drive im going to install vbox and run karmic in it till i can make sure its not going to bork my system. [05:44] anybody know how to get the old gnome-volume-control back or at least be able to adjust ALSA channels using something other than alsamixer? [05:45] gamix? [05:45] gnome-alsamixer? [05:45] ok i have heard alot of people complaining about the new mixer...what did they do to it? [05:45] I just can't really adjust sound using it [05:46] I have the slider all the way up and nothing, well then I go into alsamixer and some channel has been muted [05:46] the only problem i had was with pulseaudio and i just deleted it and went to alsa [05:46] I actually use and LIKE pulseaudio. [05:46] I don't have a problem with pulseaudio, I just can't adjust stuff [05:46] I just don't like the half-arsed pulseaudio control that the gnome volume control tries to be. [05:47] it was garble and static with my intel sound [05:47] oh yeah, did you enable tsched=1 in /etc/pulse/default.pa ? [05:47] The 31 kernel fixes that quite well. [05:47] used to be crap with tsched=1 and good without it... now it's better the other way around. [05:48] haha i had lots of problems with the 31 kernel cause of my hard drive..so nope..just got done reinstalling a little bit ago...lol [05:48] now im doing all the 4 billion updates. [05:52] weird, I was remotely upgrading a box... and it randomly disconnected from the network exactly here: [05:52] Unpacking replacement ubuntu-docs ... [05:53] yeah, odd spot for a disconnect. [05:53] maybe power outage [05:54] No, it's sitting right next to me. =þ [05:54] I just felt like doing it remotely, from my more comfortable keyboard. [05:54] ah hah [05:54] well atleast its in walking distance..lmao [05:55] ipw2200: page allocation failure. [05:55] I say, ipw2200 is probably about the worst wifi card I've had to use. [05:55]