=== erichammond1 is now known as erichammond
[15:21] <agussman> Does anyone know where I can get a list of all the kernels ec2 supports?
[16:30] <koan> I created a Jaunty AMI with vmbuilder, and I launched it successfully with ec2-run-instances. ec2-describe-instances shows it as running and lists an IP address, but I can't ping to it
[16:30] <koan> and ec2-get-console-output gives a sensible output, so there's no kernel problem
[16:31] <koan> what could be wrong?
[16:34] <agussman> koan: It could be blocked by the security settings you specified when you started theimage
[16:36] <koan> where can I find these settings?
[16:36] <rick_h_> yea, by default I don't think the images allow icmp requests
[16:36] <koan> I can't ssh into the image too
[16:36] <rick_h_> you should be able to ssh into it with the ubuntu user account and key launched with
[16:36] <koan> but I did ec2-authorize default -p 22
[16:36] <koan> and I added ssh to --addpkg
[16:37] <rick_h_> you can check the console output with the EC2 web manager to see if there were any errors starting the instance?
[16:37] <rick_h_> you're using keys to ssh correct?
[16:37] <rick_h_> by default it doesn't allow password logins
[16:37] <koan> indeed
[16:37] <koan> ec2-get-console-output only complains about uvesafb
[16:39] <koan> so I really don't see where the problem lies
[16:40] <koan> I created the image with sudo vmbuilder xen ubuntu --suite=jaunty --arch=i386 --addpkg ssh unattended-upgrades --ec2 --ec2-cert=$EC2_CERT --ec2-key=$EC2_PRIVATE_KEY --ec2-user=$AWS_USER_ID --ec2-access-key=$AWS_ACCESS_KEY_ID --ec2-secret-key=$AWS_SECRET_ACCESS_KEY --ec2-bucket=lxf-bucket --ec2-prefix=lxf --part lxf-part -o -debug
[16:40] <koan> is there a problem with that?
[16:43] <agussman> koan: the securtiy settings are specified in the group file that you specify with -g when you run ec2-run-instances
[16:44] <koan> agussman: ok, and if I don't specify a group file?
[16:45] <agussman> I don't know what the default security settings are, but I think they are very strict
[16:45] <koan> ok, but I explicitly allowed port 22, and I can ssh into other AMIs, so I guess that's not the problem
[16:46] <agussman> yeah, I'm not too familiar with ec2-authorize, I usually manage my vms using Elasticfox
[16:47] <rick_h_> can you telnet to port 22?
[16:47] <rick_h_> if you can, the port is open, just a matter of correct user/key settings I'd imagine
[16:48] <koan> nope I can't
[16:48] <agussman> koan: this has some instructions for setting up open ssh, I'm not sure if they still apply though: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/serverguide/C/jeos-and-vmbuilder.html
[16:50] <koan> agussman: I know that page, I have built Ubuntu JeOS in the past with vmbuilder, but it's not entirely relevant in this case
[16:55] <agussman> do you happen to have a link to some good documentation handy?  I've been having a heck of a time getting vmbuilder to do what I want
[16:55] <koan> do I lack the right firstboot scripts maybe?
[16:56] <koan> agussman: well I found Ubuntu's wiki pages invaluable, like the one you referred to
[16:56] <koan> I'm now following this page for building an AMI: http://www.bonjoydell.com/blog/2009/05/08/creating-amis-for-amazon-ec2-with-ubuntu/
[17:01] <agussman> koan: thanks for the link, I'll check it out
[17:05] <koan> I hope you have more luck than me :)
[17:15] <agussman> koan: Did you install ubuntu-vm-builder or python-vm-builder?
[17:16] <koan> both
[17:20] <koan> strange, now I do exactly the same, but building an intrepid image instead of jaunty, and this even has no kernel output in the console log
[18:50] <koan> it really doesn't work, has anyone here a working procedure to create an Ubuntu AMI with vmbuilder?
[19:27] <erichammond> koan: I have not been able to build good Ubuntu images for EC2 using vmbuilder yet.  The server team is still working on perfecting this process and the documentation.
[19:28] <koan> erichammond: thanks for that information, I was just looking at your ec2ubuntu-build-ami script
[19:28] <koan> I'm trying it at this moment
[19:40] <NoobFukaure> are all of ec2's machines located together in the same geographic location?
[19:40] <NoobFukaure> n/m
[19:40] <erichammond> NoobFukaure: The first part of this article talks about that: http://alestic.com/2009/07/ec2-availability-zones
[19:41] <NoobFukaure> where in the US are the servers hosted?
[19:41] <NoobFukaure> ah okay thanks
[19:41] <NoobFukaure> fantastic!
[19:41] <NoobFukaure> erichammond: thanks!
[19:41] <erichammond> Amazon does not give specific details about locations for security reasons.
[19:42] <NoobFukaure> makes sense, I'm more interested in "general" locations, mainly for latency
[19:43] <erichammond> From their security whitepaper: "AWS data centers are housed in nondescript facilities, and critical facilities have extensive setback and military grade perimeter control berms as well as other natural boundary protection."