[00:00] <ActionParsnip> Name141: i love lxde, i use it on all my systems with an x server
[00:00] <TwoToneSpirit> Dr_Willis: Well, I can imagine all the features to make it useful.  I'd love to build it myself but I don't even know where to begin.  I'm just starting to learn Python, which seems promising, but obviously not capable of a modification of the kernel / X server on the level I'm thinking.
[00:00] <mechtech> Bucky: thanks...thought I tried that...brb
[00:00] <LjL> uhm, i'm on Hardy, not using network manager but simply /etc/network/interface, with a card that gets identified as RT2500 (and driven by the wlan0 + wmaster0 combo0). i'm trying to make it connect to an ad-hoc network, but it'll refuse to set mode from interface. clues why?
[00:00] <ActionParsnip> sp0: it is mainly C afaik, with some machine code
[00:00] <Dr_Willis> TwoToneSpirit:  'crawl, walk, run' Plus i bet theres proberly allready something similer - but im vague on the details of what you want. :)
[00:00] <Name141> ActionParsnip: I'm not expecting much from it.  It works perfect, just slow due to age.  I was gonna keep it so my niece can do her homework with like openoffice and firefox.
[00:00] <jpds> s;
[00:00] <jpds> s;
[00:00] <bruce89> spO: Which one?
[00:01] <jpds> spO: No, the installer is written in Python.
[00:01] <Name141> Maybe load up her MP3 player if it's supported
[00:01] <ActionParsnip> Name141: if you want fast, install swiftfox or kazehakase
[00:01]  * bruce89 coughs * epiphany-webkit *
[00:01] <jpds> spO: There is an alternative installer CD, which uses the text based debian installer.
[00:02] <jpds> LjL: Oh hi!
[00:02] <Name141> ActionParsnip: I never heard of Swiftfox.. Is it like firefox just actually runs worth a (Blank) in linux
[00:02] <LjL> jpds: hi
[00:02] <Name141> FireFox failed to run as good as Windows on this system even
[00:02] <bruce89> Name141: it's just Fx with different compiler flags
[00:02] <ActionParsnip> Name141: yeah its slimmed down and responsive rather than bloated and slow
[00:02] <Joe_> anyone try the Nvidia 190.16 beta drivers yet?
[00:03] <syslq78> Gnome-config keybindings are not working for me in 9.04 anyone have the same porblem?
[00:03] <syslq78> problem
[00:03] <bucky> spO select the expert text based install option at the boot up menu on the install cd
[00:03] <sebsebseb> Name141: Galeon is nice as well
[00:03] <sebsebseb> !browsers |  Name141
[00:03] <Name141> sebsebseb: Never heard of that either.
[00:03] <ActionParsnip> Name141: theres firepup for 32bit too
[00:03] <deany> Is there still a problem with Suns Java on jaunty 64bit?
[00:03] <Armageddon> guys, i am trying to compile evolution, the newest release, and i tried apt-get build-dep and it didnt help, it asks for libraries i can't find over google any idea ? if you need the error ./configure please ask for it i'll paste it.
[00:03] <bruce89> athough the main problem with Fx is Gecko, which is used by Galeon also
[00:03] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: firepup sounds like one of those distros based on PuppyLinux ?
[00:04] <Dr_Willis> sebsebseb:  it is.
[00:04] <ActionParsnip> deany: I have a script to install native 64bit java if you want?
[00:04] <sebsebseb> bruce89: Galeon is still pretty good,  just  maybe webkit is more standards complaint these days
[00:04] <ActionParsnip> sebsebseb: no its a cut down fast gecko based browser
[00:04] <erUSUL> deany: what problem ?
[00:04] <bruce89> Gecko is EOL
[00:04] <deany> ActionParsnip, nah, icedtea will do.. thought sun would have it sorted by now... geez
[00:04] <bruce89> oops
[00:04] <bruce89> Galeon is EOL
[00:04] <ActionParsnip> deany: it is, want the script
[00:04] <sebsebseb> don't think so
[00:04] <spO> windows desktop os and windows server os allow users to click on folders/directories and share them throughout one's own workgroup network, and users on other computers within that workgroup can easily mount those directories.... does ubuntu allow mounting across oses.... like can i mount networked directories on ubuntu from windows
[00:04] <bruce89> well, it's not developed any more
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> deany: http://pastebin.com/f1997c744
[00:05] <erUSUL> deany: the only thing i can think of is the lack of a firefox plugin... all the rest just work the same as in 32 bit
[00:05] <Dr_Willis> spO:  you can use samba and 'share' directories with windows - and back and forth.. yes.
[00:05] <jpds> !samba | spO
[00:05] <bucky> Armageddon: you need a ton of dev packages apt-get build-dep evolution
[00:05] <deany> so, he only needs it for FF plugin
[00:06] <deany> so might as well use icedtea
[00:06] <ActionParsnip> deany: that installs native 64bit sun java
[00:06] <deany> ok , thx
[00:06] <spO> windows also has remote desktop connection, so i can acccess a remote desktop from another windows desktop.... does ubuntu have something like this... ie , something more gui like and not just a shell account
[00:06] <bruce89> spO: VNC
[00:06] <th0r> how long are you guys going to feed this troll?
[00:06] <erUSUL> ActionParsnip: why twe script? sudo aptitude install sun-java6-* is enough ;P
[00:07] <ActionParsnip> sp0: you can use rdesktop to connect to mstsc
[00:07] <sebsebseb> !vnc |  spO
[00:07] <Dr_Willis> spO:  or you can install 'xming' on windows, and ssh to the linux box. and run linux gui apps on the windows machine. :)
[00:07] <ActionParsnip> erUSUL: does that install 64bit java on 64bit systems, or does it install 32bit with nspluginwrapper?
[00:07] <ActionParsnip> sp0: its rare to need a full desktop
[00:07] <spO> so if i run rdesktop on my ubuntu box, then i can use remote desktop on my windows box and i can control a ubuntu desktop environemnt... IE, not just a shell
[00:08] <jpds> spO: Yes.
[00:08] <deany> well, for most people its useless without working FF plugin
[00:08] <yaris123456789> hi folks, my microphone works, but i cannot record. i made sure all the volumes were up.
[00:08] <erUSUL> ActionParsnip: nspluginwrapper is only needed for the firefox plugin and java is much more than just that plugin...
[00:08] <Dr_Willis> spO:  thers several ways to get gui remote control of a linux machine. :) vnc is one,
[00:08] <bruce89> icedtea-plugin
[00:08] <erUSUL> ActionParsnip: in 64 bit ubuntu there is no package for the java sun plugin afaik
[00:08] <ActionParsnip> erUSUL: all i know is that it works and gives awesmoe java performance
[00:08] <ActionParsnip> erUSUL: its a tar file at java.com
[00:09] <spO> can ubuntu play movie files that are on a ntfs ?
[00:09] <ActionParsnip> sp0: remote access can be a tonne more graceful than viewing the whole desktop, many apps have web interfaces which mipact the network less
[00:09] <spO> i guess so huh
[00:09] <Mike_lifeguard> I'm having issues downloading MIME digest emails via IMAP in Evolution. The digest itself gets downloaded, but the emails in it consist of only the headers. How can I force Evolution to download the whole email?
[00:09] <erUSUL> ActionParsnip: ok fair enough
[00:10] <ActionParsnip> sp0: the kernel can read ntfs natively, it can write to ntfs (best effort) using ntfs-3g
[00:10] <Dr_Willis> spO:  yes they can play video files.. you can have full access to ntfs filesystems
[00:10] <Mike_lifeguard> Some of the MIME digest emails do get downloaded, seemingly at random, but most do not O__o
[00:11] <spO> too bad i cannot install ubuntu using just ntfs instead of whatever fs it uses
[00:11] <bruce89> yikes
[00:11] <ActionParsnip> sp0: ext3
[00:11] <ActionParsnip> sp0: you can resize ntfs to make room for ubuntu]
[00:11] <sebsebseb> spO: NTFS is  pretty bad compared to Linux file systems :)
[00:11] <ActionParsnip> !dualboot | sp0
[00:11] <Dr_Willis> spO:  err.. ext3/4 is better then ntfs in manyw ays. :) if you want to test ubuntu out. try it in 'virtualbox' on a windows machine
[00:11] <Evet> Amd Athlon64 X2 5600+ + 2gb DDR2 RAM + 800gb HDD = 49 euro monthly
[00:12] <ActionParsnip> Evet: peddle elsewhere, this is not the channel for it
[00:12] <yaris123456789> hi folks, my microphone works, but i cannot record. i made sure all the volumes were up. i am using Ubuntu 9.04
[00:12] <Lint01> Dr_Willis: they are not 'better'. They are just old.
[00:12] <Evet> Intel Core i7-920 Quadcore + 8gb DDR3 RAM + 1500gb HDD = 49 euro monthly + 149 euro setup fee
[00:12] <spO> windows 2k8 r2 has nice power schemes such as turning off my hard drives after 20 minutes
[00:12] <spO> and some kind of power control or handling of usb drives
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> Lint01: ext3 was introduced november 2001
[00:13] <spO> i guess i changed my mind about using ubuntu
[00:13] <Evet> Which is better?
[00:13] <Dr_Willis> and here i thought ext4 was rather new. :)
[00:13] <Evet> ...
[00:13] <spO> unless ubuntu has some incredible usb external hard drive handling
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> Evet: wrong channel
[00:13] <Lint01> ActionParsnip: just rehashing ext2 with ideas cloned from NTFS
[00:13] <Dr_Willis> spO:  my exteral usb drives do that reguardles of what OS im running on them.
[00:14] <sebsebseb> spO: Windows as host OS for many reasons is best to avoide :)  that however goes off topic, so I am not going to start going on about that here
[00:14] <ActionParsnip> Lint01: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext3
[00:14] <scoates> hi. I'm trying to set up ircd-hybrid and whenever I set flags=ssl in a listen block, it seems to start up but not actually listen on any ports. any ideas? even a pointer to the right channel would be helpful.
[00:14] <sebsebseb> spO: A virtual machine of Windows inside another OS, well that can be useful
[00:14] <scoates>  Can't find useful logs, even.
[00:14] <ActionParsnip> Lint01: its still 8 years old, which in computer terms is pretty old
[00:14] <Dr_Willis> spO:  i find my segate exteranl usb very smart about when to spindown/powerdown
[00:14] <spO> why has people built upon debian instead of slackware or something else
[00:15] <spO> why debian?
[00:15] <mechtech> why does this happen?: I will be reading man pages just fine, then when I'm done, I ctrl-Z, then ctrl-C, then type exit and my terminal says there are stopped jobs...what's up with that?
[00:15] <ActionParsnip> sp0: instead of askng in a channel, why dont you do a tonne of research online. The internet has far more knowledge than 1300 users in an irc channel
[00:15] <bruce89> sp0: Debian is nice
[00:15] <Dr_Willis> spO:  why slackware.. why ask why. :) it was decided to use debian as the base.
[00:15] <ActionParsnip> sp0: why not
[00:15] <deany> ActionParsnip, i`ll take that script then
[00:15] <zErOaCid> is there any good website on how to recompile kernel in jaunty ?
[00:15] <deany> ActionParsnip,  as long as it works with FF
[00:15] <th0r> mechtech: the control z is probably the issue....when you are done with a man page just type q for quit
[00:15] <ActionParsnip> deany: http://pastebin.com/f1997c744
[00:15] <ActionParsnip> deany: works fine
[00:15] <bucky> mechtech: because you're supposed to type 'q' for quit instead of trying to kill a process
[00:15] <mechtech> th0r: cool thanks
[00:16] <spO> is there a good torrent program for ubuntu?
[00:16] <Dr_Willis> spO:  theres a torrent client built in.
[00:16] <mechtech> bucky: thanks
[00:16] <ActionParsnip> !torrent | sp0
[00:16] <sebsebseb> spO: oh you know about other distros,   well in that case there may be some other distro that you will like more than Ubuntu,  however Ubuntu is pretty nice to start with
[00:16] <Dr_Willis> spO:  most common apps re allready built in.
[00:16] <Achilles`> Hey can anyone help me out with extracting a zip file to /usr/lib/eclipse/plugins ..... I get the error "Caution: filename not matched: /usr/lib/eclipse/plugins
[00:16] <MBD123> I need to download ia32-libs in order to install Adobe Air, but it says I can't due to amd64. Please help me
[00:16] <Dr_Willis> spO:  and most any app youve seen on other disrtos exist on ubuntu also.
[00:16] <Dr_Willis> MBD123:  odd.. i got adobe air installed here..   i forget how i did it..
[00:16] <Lint01> is it still the only way do defragment ext3/4 by recreating filesystem?
[00:17] <ActionParsnip> Achilles`: unzup <zipfile> ; sudo mv ./<folder name> /usr/lib/eclipse/plugins
[00:17] <sebsebseb> !defrag |  Lint01
[00:17] <Forza4Life> can anyone help with setting up dual monitors in ati CCC
[00:17] <msds1502> GRUB Issue: I want to boot to windows xp which is (hd0,0) but it sends me to the windows boot loader instead? I also have a windows 7 partition located at (hd1,0) how do i boot straight into that OS and not that boot loader?
[00:17] <pinkey> my computer has been freezing up frequently as of late (requiring a full power-cycle to recover.)  In /var/log/messages, before the freeze it's always several hundred lines looking like this: "rt_ioctl_giwscan. 13(13) BSS returned, data->length = 1251", but I don't know what to do.
[00:17] <ActionParsnip> Lint01: its not needed due to how ext3/4 are designed
[00:17] <mankash> /usr/include/bits/fcntl2.h:51: error: call to â__open_missing_modeâ declared with attribute error: open with O_CREAT in secon
[00:17] <mankash> make[4]: *** [collect2.o] Error 1
[00:17] <ActionParsnip> Lint01: you can remove the journal and defrag ext2 but you wil gain nearly nothing
[00:18] <mankash> I am trying to build and getting this error /usr/include/bits/fcntl2.h:51: error: call to â__open_missing_modeâ declared with attribute error: open with O_CREAT in secon
[00:18] <mankash> make[4]: *** [collect2.o] Error 1
[00:18] <Forza4Life> CAN ANYONE PLEASE PLEASE HELP ME?????
[00:18] <ActionParsnip> !ask | Forza4Life
[00:18] <Forza4Life> well  i been asking
[00:18] <Forza4Life> no one has acknowledged me
[00:19] <ActionParsnip> !dualhead | Forza4Life
[00:19] <Dr_Willis> Forza4Life:  you may want to check the forums for that specific card/ati wiki pages. I dont use ati any more.
[00:19] <bruce89> !repeat | Forza4Life
[00:19] <Achilles`> ActionParsnip: Thanks man... I've been banging my head against the wall for the past one hour
[00:19] <Forza4Life> can sopmeone help me get extended desktop working on an ati card
[00:19] <Lint01> all filesystems are fragmented in the same way. And yes, they all need defragmentation eventually
[00:19] <ActionParsnip> Achilles`: huh?
[00:19] <sebsebseb> Lint01: wrong
[00:19] <mkanat> If I've installed mod_perl via apt-get, is there some command that I need to run in order for it to be loaded in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/ ?
[00:19] <spO> to install sabnzbd in ubuntu , you do not compile anything because it is written in python   ... in order for it to work you have to run a httpd server?
[00:19] <ActionParsnip> Lint01: no, ext3 keeps the data of files either whole or extremely close
[00:20] <Achilles`> ActionParsnip: For the unzip/mv command
[00:20] <sebsebseb> Lint01: defraging  should be done to Microsoft file systems yes, but  other ones  it's not needed
[00:20] <Forza4Life> surely someone in here has set up dual monitors on an ati card
[00:20] <ActionParsnip> Achilles`: np man
[00:20] <bruce89> sebsebseb: that's not strictly true
[00:20] <bruce89> see ext4defrag
[00:20] <ActionParsnip> Lint01: defrag exists in windows as the file system and OS are very poor at populating the drive with data
[00:20] <spO> what do yuo guys think?
[00:21] <ActionParsnip> Lint01: ext3 is very efficient at storage of files
[00:21] <Dr_Willis> spO:  if its a python script.. it should work.
[00:21] <donaldo> hello
[00:21] <Dr_Willis> spO:  if it needs apache installed.. then install apache
[00:21] <jiohdi> can the make usb bootable utility in ubuntu be used for other iso's or just ubuntu/
[00:21] <ActionParsnip> sp0: python apps will run fine in ubuntu, won't need compiling
[00:21] <jiohdi> ?
[00:21] <donaldo> how to  enable subwoofer internal toshiba x205-s9800 laptop, realtek alc268??
[00:21] <sebsebseb> spO: Ubuntu uses quite a lot of Python in fact
[00:21] <donaldo> any idea?
[00:21] <donaldo> ples help me
[00:21] <Dr_Willis> jiohdi:  never tried.. but the unetbootin tool (in the repos) can work for many other disrtos as well as ubuntu
[00:22] <ActionParsnip> sp0: i think you need to research what linux is and what it can do
[00:22] <ActionParsnip> sp0: instead of asking in an irc channel
[00:22] <msds1502> GRUB Issue: I want to boot to windows xp which is (hd0,0) but it sends me to the windows boot loader instead? I also have a windows 7 partition located at (hd1,0) how do i boot straight into that OS and not that boot loader?
[00:22] <jiohdi> dr willis, does that work in linux or just windows?
[00:22] <Lint01> ok, so for example if I write 8GB file over 4 2GB free spaces, it would be 4 fragments on NTFS, but 1 fragment on ext3?
[00:22] <Dr_Willis> jiohdi:  its for both os's :) its in the repos
[00:22] <rz> anyone that can help with setting up a steam server?  I am just not able to establish a connection to the steam servers once I launch the server
[00:23] <Dr_Willis> !info unetbootin
[00:23] <jiohdi> dr. I am still a noob, I did not recognize repos until I hit enter
[00:23] <spO> whenever i tried to install xwin on freebsd or openbsd like 7 years ago, i would always have problems or usually have problems with getting the video card right or what not and also getting the mouse settings to work right.... With ubuntu it works out of the box,   does freebsd and other oses still have problems installing xwin?
[00:23] <sebsebseb> Lint01: try ##linux for your questions the general  Linux channal
[00:23] <spO> out of the box, ubuntu has xwins, rihgt?
[00:23] <Dr_Willis> jiohdi:  unetbootin can even download the iso files for many  disrtos.
[00:24] <sebsebseb> Lint01: uh wrong person
[00:24] <sebsebseb> spO: see above
[00:24] <Dr_Willis> spO:  7 years ago .. iw a loooooooooooooong time
[00:24] <spO> how come ubuntu can get the confirugation for video card and mouse right but others cannot
[00:24] <Dr_Willis> spO:  X auto configrues itself these days in most cases.
[00:24] <ActionParsnip> jiohdi: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/usb-kubuntu-904-persistent-install-windows/#more-1582
[00:24] <Dr_Willis> spO:  if the others were using the latest X they would also.
[00:25] <sebsebseb> spO: opensource/freesoftware  tends to be very fast developing software, unlike commercial software, as a result  when talking about this software  and saying 7 years ago, that is a rather long time
[00:25] <jiohdi> thanks action... Just got the unet from add/remove :)
[00:25] <ActionParsnip> jiohdi: will show you how to use some tools + iso + usb or sd card to make a bootable usb or sdcard
[00:25] <Dr_Willis> 7 years ago is eons ago in comptuer time :)
[00:25] <spO> openbsd has security and encryption enhancements, does ubuntu have anything like this, like for instance can you use blowfish?
[00:25] <Dr_Willis> !encryption | spO
[00:25] <sebsebseb> spO: I suggest you ask your questions in ##linux  the general Linux channal
[00:25] <erUSUL> spO: use blowfish for what ?
[00:25] <Dr_Willis> erUSUL:  for lunch? :) with soy sauce?
[00:26] <jiohdi> action, I used unet to get my ubuntu from a flashdrive
[00:26] <jiohdi> but from xp
[00:26] <spO> to encrypt my CIA related files
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> sp0: all my hardware works great in all my linux system and i do not just use ubuntu
[00:26] <spO> what news reader do you guys use?
[00:26] <spO> xnews?
[00:26] <msds1502> GRUB Issue: I want to boot to windows xp which is (hd0,0) but it sends me to the windows boot loader instead? I also have a windows 7 partition located at (hd1,0) how do i boot straight into that OS and not that boot loader?
[00:26] <Dr_Willis> newsreaders - that is old skool. :)
[00:26] <jiohdi> but I tried to put mint on my computer instead using the ubuntu usb boot maker and it failed
[00:26] <spO> oh wait, do you guys use alt. bin or whatever?
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> sp0: you can encrypt your home if you wear a tinfoil hat
[00:26] <erUSUL> Dr_Willis: rotfl
[00:26] <Dr_Willis> spO:  i used pan ages ago.
[00:27] <spO> hmm
[00:27] <jiohdi> desktopbsd always said the kernel was corrupted on the usb
[00:27] <sebsebseb> spO: this channel is good for  Ubuntu specific stuff,  and  Linux stuff that isn't  is  better off in the other channal
[00:27] <spO> i guess you can use newsbins and sabnzbd
[00:27] <Dr_Willis> msds1502:  for my machine.. i can hit a key at the POST screen and select what hd to boot.  that lets me boot windows on the 2nd hard drive without needing grub at all.
[00:27] <Lint01> msds1502: how are you gonna boot XP without boot loader?
[00:27] <ActionParsnip> sp0: can you access the google website from at least one computer?
[00:27] <spO> seb, i was talking about what news reader to use with ubuntu
[00:27] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: heh what  so he can start researching?
[00:27] <Dr_Willis> spO:  you can go to #puppylinux also and ask general questions.. we love it in there.
[00:28] <jiohdi> so it seemed that the ubuntu usb bootable was not working for other iso;s which is why I asked
[00:28] <Dr_Willis> spO:  use whatever newsreader has the features you want.
[00:28] <spO> i want to use newsleecher in ubuntu
[00:28] <spO> how do i do that
[00:28] <spO> do you guys use wine or something?
[00:28] <spO> dioes that work well?
[00:28] <Dr_Willis> spO:  no idea.. install it.. run it..  never heard of it.
[00:29] <Dr_Willis> spO:  wine works.  check the wine appdatabase for specific apps and issues with them
[00:29] <msds1502> Lint01: right now my GRUB lists: Ubuntu and then Windows Boot loader.  The boot loader is on (hd0,0). windows bootloader has my Win 7 and WinXP options on it.  I want Ubuntu, WinXP and Win7 all on my GRUB menu.
[00:29] <spO> i woulkd like to put together a package whereas i can run windows 7 ontop of ubuntu
[00:29] <Dr_Willis> spO:  that would be 'virtualbox' to allow that. :)
[00:29] <spO> dr_willis, virualbox is like wine, huh?
[00:29] <mob> @ all good day ;]
[00:29] <ActionParsnip> sp0: it gets a good review under wine
[00:29] <Dr_Willis> spO:  nope.. its a virtual machine..  check its homepage.
[00:29] <LjL> spO: not really... wine simulates windows, virtualbox simulates a computer
[00:30] <jiohdi> can something complicated like corel paint be installed under wine... I tried and it always failed
[00:30] <spO> i bet virual box uses a lot of hard drive space
[00:30] <ActionParsnip> sp0: no wine is an abstraction layer, virtuualbox will involve a full blown windows install and will require a windows licence
[00:30] <jet_> i just got an mp3 player that has software on it and whatnot is it safe to format?
[00:30] <jet_> cheap coby one
[00:30] <Dr_Willis> spO:  it uses what you tell it to use..  windows 7 will use more drive space then   anything else you got installed.
[00:30] <spO> can i start ubuntu in console mode everytime i reboot?
[00:30] <mob> which # is dealing with karmic?
[00:30] <ActionParsnip> sp0: why dont you find out how much it needs
[00:30] <sebsebseb> !karmic | mob
[00:30] <LjL> mob: #ubuntu+1
[00:30] <Dr_Willis> spO:  yes you can.
[00:31] <spO> dr_willis, how?
[00:31] <mob> ty
[00:31] <sebsebseb> np
[00:31] <Dr_Willis> spO:  disabel the gdm service = no X login manager screen then.. just the console.
[00:31] <laymansnerd> hey room.....wondering what steps i need to take to connect my ubuntu machines to my windows 7 printer
[00:31] <spO> but what if i want to load Xwin after i use the console for a while?
[00:32] <spO> layman, samba?
[00:32] <ActionParsnip> sp0: you run  startx
[00:32] <Dr_Willis> spO:  then you start X.  logical eh?
[00:33] <Dr_Willis> spO:  like you are really going to 'stay in the console' much. :)
[00:33] <ActionParsnip> sp0: can you see the flexibilty that linux offers over windows rigid no-functionality
[00:33] <stuntz> anyone any ideas on how to run compiz in backtrack 4?
[00:33] <spO> there should be something to access X login remotely, kind of like windows' remote desktop, don't you think?
[00:33] <laymansnerd> tried....can't connect to that machine
[00:33] <Dr_Willis> stuntz:  backtrack4 is NOT ubuntu based. it has its own support channel.
[00:33] <ActionParsnip> sp0: no, its rarely needed
[00:33] <laymansnerd> workgroup name is the same and same case
[00:33] <Dr_Willis> spO:  theres at least 3 ways to do that..
[00:33] <Dr_Willis> spO:  vnc is one way
[00:33] <outy> how can i make a shortcunt to nautilus ?
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> outy: i know in terminal
[00:34] <Guest10761> Why does it do this? http://pastebin.com/m363a66dd
[00:34] <jiohdi> outy, with pubic hairs
[00:34] <Dr_Willis> outy:  make a icon on the desktop that launches nautilus
[00:34]  * Dr_Willis wonders why the backtrack4 users all seem to want to come to #ubuntu
[00:34] <Kalisto> Anyone know why in the Main Menu Gnome editor i cannot delete entries. the button it not greyed out but it nothing happens when i click it?
[00:34] <deany> ActionParsnip, sudo wget  http://www.java.net/download/jdk6/6u12/promoted/b03/binaries/jre-6u12-ea-bin-b03-linux-amd64-22_dec_2008.bin ? thats old isnt it lol
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis: no idea
[00:34] <bucky> outy: drag the icon from the Applications menu to the desktop
[00:35] <Dr_Willis> ActionParsnip:  i wonder if their irc client is misconfigured.
[00:35] <ActionParsnip> deany: update it if you want
[00:35] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis: sounds like misconfigured user
[00:35] <ShawnC> Why does it do this? http://pastebin.com/m363a66dd
[00:35] <TiM1> today after a hard work, i steup my sound card, but not completely, it was wrong recognized, does anybody know how to change it?
[00:35] <Dr_Willis> ActionParsnip:  from what i read of backtrack4 most users in here asking about it.. really should not be  using it.. :P
[00:35] <spO> dr_willis, what are the other two?
[00:36] <ActionParsnip> ShawnC: if yuo run: gksudo gedit /etc/hosts  does dyllan-desktop resolve to 127.0.0.1
[00:36] <deany> ActionParsnip, what version?
[00:36] <Dr_Willis> spO:  X forwarding via xdmcp , and ssh X forwarding.. if that means anything to you.
[00:36] <glitchd> so my laptop speakers just quit working but the headphones still give sound...??????
[00:36] <ActionParsnip> deany: 1.6.0
[00:36] <glitchd> got 9.04
[00:37] <Armageddon> I'm having this error when trying to uninstall Evolution, any ideas ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/235523/
[00:37] <glitchd> on a acer
[00:37] <deany> ActionParsnip, what file version
[00:37] <user__> can ubuntu read xps files by default?
[00:37] <deany> I cant see one
[00:37] <ericG> outy: press alt+f2 and type gconf-editor, then expand apps,  nautilus, then click desktop. check the box beside home_icon_visible
[00:37] <bruce89> user__: no
[00:37] <ShawnC> ActionParsnip: yes it does.
[00:37] <laymansnerd> any tips?
[00:37] <deany> linux-amd64-what?
[00:37] <ActionParsnip> ShawnC: and in hostname is it dyllan-desktop  too?
[00:38] <ActionParsnip> deany: what file version of what?
[00:38] <Dr_Willis> outy:  theres also a 'unsupported/unofficial' tool called 'ubuntu tweak' that lets you easially change those kind of settings.
[00:38] <mowsmek> hey guys
[00:38] <spO> why do you guys like ubuntu more than freebsd?
[00:38] <ActionParsnip> sp0: i dont like it more, i like it equally
[00:38] <deany> ActionParsnip, java6 bin?
[00:38] <mowsmek> anyone really good regarding external usb storage issues?
[00:38] <Dr_Willis> spO:  because ubuntu is linux.. and freebsd is bsd.
[00:38] <ShawnC> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/m2221ab64
[00:38] <glitchd> Who can help me with sound issues in 9.04??
[00:38] <ActionParsnip> deany: firefox says 1.6.0
[00:38] <Armageddon> spO: everything has its own use and purpose
[00:38] <jawee> sp0: better hardware support, better prebuilt system
[00:38] <bucky> spO the ubuntu mascot is much cooler than the FreeBSD one
[00:39] <Armageddon> I'm having this error when trying to uninstall Evolution, any ideas ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/235523/
[00:39] <jawee> sp0: FreebSD systsm is harder to use OTB, requires more setup
[00:39] <albdum> any1 knows how can i format a drive to ntfs with shell commands ?
[00:39] <mowsmek> guys is ubuntu 9.04 better then linuxmint?
[00:39] <bruce89> !better
[00:39] <sebsebseb> bucky: uhmm you mean Tux?  which  is the mascot for Linux not Ubuntu
[00:39] <albdum> is it possible to be done with fdisk ?
[00:39] <ShawnC> ActionParsnip: any thoughts?
[00:39] <sebsebseb> bucky: Tux the Linux penguin
[00:39] <laymansnerd> if you want everything pre installed linux is the way to go
[00:39] <msds1502> how do you resume after suspending ubuntu?
[00:39] <ActionParsnip> ShawnC: your /etc/hosts is broken, it says 27.0.0.1 rather than 127.0.0.1
[00:39] <jiohdi> mowsmek, an IT guy told me that mint is superior to ubuntu, but I could not get mint to work right
[00:39] <laymansnerd> but you won't get the latest kernel
[00:39] <ShawnC> ah
[00:39] <fission61> can someone recommend a good font/size, i hate my current font, esp for terminal takes up to muhc space
[00:40] <ShawnC> should i nano /etc/hosts
[00:40] <ShawnC> ??
[00:40] <user__> are there any easy ways to add xps viewing abilitys to ubuntu?
[00:40] <laymansnerd> it only updates the kernel periodically
[00:40] <ActionParsnip> ShawnC: you'll need sudo for that
[00:40] <donnybrasco> hello - I have ubuntu jaunty installed on my laptop and it's running great; BUT I just used gparted to remove all other partitions from my HD (windows and hardy heron).  Now I am getting an error with my grub when I boot - can anyone help me with this?
[00:40] <Dr_Willis> fission61:  set the size how you like.. and try various fonts..  its all a personal taste thing.
[00:40] <bucky> sebsebseb: isn't tux cooler than the devil?
[00:40] <jiohdi> mowsmek, I dont know what went wrong, but everytime I rebooted, I had to repair packages
[00:40] <bruce89> user__: I don't think there is
[00:40] <Tr1n> msds1502:  if it helps suspend never worked for me until I installed the correct video drivers
[00:40] <jiohdi> so I dumped it and went back to ubuntu
[00:40] <ShawnC> ActionParsnip, am i not able to sudo?
[00:40] <Dr_Willis> fission61:  my wife sets the fonts where they are liek an Inch tall. :)
[00:40] <ActionParsnip> laymansnerd: you dont need a new kernel if all hardware is working ok
[00:40] <albdum> Hello any1 might know how can i format a drive to ntfs using shell ?
[00:40] <fission61> hmm well i am looking for a good terminal setting
[00:40] <laymansnerd> this is true
[00:40] <ActionParsnip> ShawnC: yes, you will NEED to sudo to get write access
[00:40] <usr229> help again... i have this line "wine CFFiles.exe /e <a_file>" wich runs without problems on my console... but when i try to to do it with a nautilus script: "wine CFFiles.exe /e $NAUTILUS_SCRIPT_SELECTED_FILE_PATHS", it doesn't work.... i tried this in the same script "gedit $NAUTILUS_SCRIPT_SELECTED_FILE_PATHS" and it works, so what is the problem??
[00:40] <msds1502> donnybrasco: are you using multiple hard drives?
[00:41] <ShawnC> i know ActionParsnip
[00:41] <spO> bsd is not much different than linux
[00:41] <ShawnC> i don';t see where the 27.0.0.1 is though?
[00:41] <ActionParsnip> ShawnC: top of the file reads: 27.0.0.1        localhost
[00:41] <bruce89> user__:http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=321868
[00:41] <jiohdi> sp0 bsd is more unix based right?
[00:41] <bucky> spO that's because linux is a unix clone
[00:41] <chauncellor> donnybrasco, there's a command to autoconfig grub, but I can't remember
[00:41] <donnybrasco> msds: no ... well, I have an external hd with everything I wanted backed up on it, but just the one on my laptop
[00:41] <TiM1> i'm having problem with soundcards
[00:41] <ShawnC> oh
[00:41] <donnybrasco> msds: oh - hey, I think it was you that helped me earlier
[00:41] <ShawnC> that was a pasting mistake
[00:41] <chauncellor> donnybrasco, it's something like "sudo grub-autoconfigure", but I don't think that's it
[00:41] <ActionParsnip> sp0: bsd is hugely different to linux
[00:42] <ShawnC> it's accually 127.0.0.1
[00:42] <Spykemcc> hi Arch linux vs Ubuntu what is the best ?
[00:42] <bucky> Spykemcc: Arch
[00:42] <Armageddon> Guys, can anyone help with Evolution ?
[00:42] <ActionParsnip> ShawnC: you will want to delete the '.Auto' from the hosts file for your host name
[00:42] <albdum> Hello any1 might know how can i format a drive to ntfs using shell ?
[00:42] <msds1502> donnybrasco: was the external hooked up when you installed Ubuntu?
[00:42] <Dr_Willis> Spykemcc:  use what ever one you like.. and i dumped arch a few months ago and went back to Ubuntu.
[00:42] <ActionParsnip> Spykemcc: neither is best, nor worst
[00:42] <sebsebseb> !ot | spO
[00:42] <donnybrasco> msds: yeah - it's been hooked up the entire time - I didn't touch it with gparted though
[00:42] <Spykemcc> ok
[00:43] <ActionParsnip> albdum: apt-cache search ntfs | grep tool
[00:43] <Dr_Willis> Spykemcc:  differnt design 'goals'  go read the arch docs to learn their design criteria/demands/goals.. thats the 'ARCH' way
[00:43] <bucky> albdum: is it dual boot.. it's better to use windows to format it if you want to access it from both
[00:43] <ActionParsnip> Spykemcc: which is better, coke or pepsi?
[00:43] <chauncellor> What's better, Sega or Nintendo?
[00:43] <ActionParsnip> Spykemcc: highlights how meaningless the whole "best" nonesense is
[00:43] <chauncellor> (remember that one?)
[00:43] <Dr_Willis> ActionParsnip:  my wife will not touch coke its pepsi or nothing  for her. :)
[00:43] <bucky> Spykemcc: and Gentoo is better than Arch
[00:43] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis: exactly
[00:44] <Dr_Willis> we all know that  Tiny Core Linux is the best.. anyway :P
[00:44] <msds1502> coke and pepsi are like dicks and vaginas... i strongly prefer one but my friend says they taste the same
[00:44] <ActionParsnip> bucky: i'd agree but I can name people who disagree
[00:44] <donnybrasco> msds: I'm currently booted up on the live cd and I have full access to my jaunty filesystem in the file browser
[00:44] <usr229> VCoolio: help again... i have this line "wine CFFiles.exe /e <a_file>" wich runs without problems on my console... but when i try to to do it with a nautilus script: "wine CFFiles.exe /e $NAUTILUS_SCRIPT_SELECTED_FILE_PATHS", it doesn't work.... i tried this in the same script "gedit $NAUTILUS_SCRIPT_SELECTED_FILE_PATHS" and it works, so what is the problem??
[00:44] <albdum> i must format it from ubuntu server... :( but i need the format to be ntfs
[00:44] <usr229> ActionParsnip: help... i have this line "wine CFFiles.exe /e <a_file>" wich runs without problems on my console... but when i try to to do it with a nautilus script: "wine CFFiles.exe /e $NAUTILUS_SCRIPT_SELECTED_FILE_PATHS", it doesn't work.... i tried this in the same script "gedit $NAUTILUS_SCRIPT_SELECTED_FILE_PATHS" and it works, so what is the problem??
[00:44] <ActionParsnip> Spykemcc: basically, its a moot question
[00:44] <ActionParsnip> usr229: no idea
[00:44] <ActionParsnip> usr229: why did you ask me?
[00:44] <Dr_Willis> albdum:  mkfs.ntfs  can do that...
[00:44] <mikexstudios> Is there a way to have 'make' automatically run when certain files are changed?
[00:45] <bucky> Spykemcc: if you want five different answers from 1500 people in an irc channel then use ubuntu
[00:45] <ShawnC> huh ActionParsnip?
[00:45] <usr229> ActionParsnip: random selection
[00:45] <uknow> can some on help me with chatzilla
[00:45] <albdum> Dr_Willis : thnx m8 any additional packages required?
[00:45] <uknow> i want to join a diffrent network
[00:45] <msds1502> donnybrasco: Try using SuperGrubDisk to restore GRUB.  there are a couple options here too: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto#Backup,%20Repairing%20and%20Reinstalling%20GRUB
[00:45] <Dr_Willis> mikexstudios:  that is not making a lot of sence.. you want somthign to auto-recompile?
[00:45] <Dr_Willis> albdum:  proberly   but no idea what.
[00:45] <mikexstudios> Dr_Willis: Yes
[00:45] <bruce89> mikexstudios: what are you trying to do?
[00:45] <usr229> msds1502: help... i have this line "wine CFFiles.exe /e <a_file>" wich runs without problems on my console... but when i try to to do it with a nautilus script: "wine CFFiles.exe /e $NAUTILUS_SCRIPT_SELECTED_FILE_PATHS", it doesn't work.... i tried this in the same script "gedit $NAUTILUS_SCRIPT_SELECTED_FILE_PATHS" and it works, so what is the problem??
[00:45] <vIkSiT> hi all
[00:45] <deany> ActionParsnip, why doesnt FF work with it then if that script is only copying over the file to FF plugins folder?
[00:45] <albdum> ok THnx
[00:45] <ActionParsnip> ShawnC: instead of          dyllan-desktop.Auto linksys (default)             have it say           dyllan-desktop     on its own
[00:46] <Dr_Willis> mikexstudios:  there are some various  'file watcher' tools that can do actions when somthing changes.. but ive never used them
[00:46] <deany> ActionParsnip, whats the sun-java6-plugin all about?
[00:46] <vIkSiT> I'm stuck with a problem, doing a simple apt-get upgrade from 8.10 - put me on a 9.04 version.
[00:46] <donnybrasco> msds: thanks, checking that out now
[00:46] <mikexstudios> bruce89: I'm doing some GUI work that requires a lot of pixel placement stuff. So I'm tired to running 'make' each time I change some parameters in source.
[00:46] <vIkSiT> It also changed my sources list
[00:46] <vIkSiT> and I'm trying to figure out how to proceed.
[00:46] <mikexstudios> Dr_Willis: Thanks, I'll look into them.
[00:46] <vIkSiT> Should I do a dist-upgrade,or a do-release-upgrade?
[00:46] <ShawnC> ok
[00:46] <Harryy> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7694665 <-- help me with my ssh problem please :)
[00:46] <ActionParsnip> deany: afaik, its a 32bit version. the 64bit script works great for me
[00:46] <deany> this is goin great.. gettin a mate over to ubuntu and he`s having hurdles from start
[00:46] <deany> ugh
[00:46] <bruce89> mikexstudios: the whole point of makefiles is to recompile files when they are changed
[00:47] <msds1502> usr229: i have no idea on how to help
[00:47] <deany> ActionParsnip,  why isnt it getting a 64bit version from repo tho?
[00:47] <mikexstudios> bruce89: Yes, but I want it to do that automatically once the files are changed without me typing 'make'.
[00:47] <VCoolio> usr229: don't know actually, maybe has to do with wine or the / character, try to put \ before that so it looks like \/
[00:47] <ActionParsnip> deany: it gets the file from the java website afaik
[00:47] <msds1502> donnybrasco: I gave you the wrong link.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows should work better
[00:47] <bruce89> mikexstudios: I don't think there's such a thing
[00:47] <vIkSiT> hmm, ideas anyone?
[00:48] <ActionParsnip> deany, it downloads: http://www.java.net/download/jdk6/6u12/promoted/b03/binaries/jre-6u12-ea-bin-b03-linux-amd64-22_dec_2008.bin
[00:48] <donnybrasco> msds: ok
[00:48] <DougM> what is the command line to uninstall wine in terminal
[00:49] <deany> ActionParsnip, I know, but its old
[00:49] <th0r> DougM: apt-get remove wine?
[00:49] <deany> ActionParsnip, i`m tryin to find the link to the newest file, to replace in script
[00:49] <vIkSiT> hmm, so does a apt-get upgrade actually change souces.list?
[00:49] <vIkSiT> I always thought it wouldnt?
[00:50] <deany> i knew I`d get the "all this for java its 2 clicks in windows" speech
[00:50] <Flannel> vIkSiT: No.  It just updates the packages that are installed to the latest versions.
[00:50] <DougM> th0r: thanks.. sorry im really new to linux
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> deany: if you do, please let me know and i'll update my own
[00:50] <Armageddon> I'm having this error when trying to remove Evolution, any ideas ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/235523/
[00:50] <vIkSiT> Flannel, indeed. so what command would end up changing the sources.list?
[00:50] <Tr1n> vIkSiT:  Surely it has to take into account the repositories of your new version?
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> DougM: sudo apt-get --purge remove wine; sudo apt-get --purge autoremove
[00:50] <Flannel> vIkSiT: No commands do.  Well, update-manager does.
[00:50] <vIkSiT> Im running a server only - no X, so I guess that wouldn't matter
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> DougM: if you also delete ~/.wine
[00:50] <Flannel> vIkSiT: Are you trying to upgrade a version of Ubuntu?
[00:51] <th0r> ActionParsnip: you must REALLY want to get rid of wine!
[00:51] <ActionParsnip> DougM: then it will also remove the old config
[00:51] <vIkSiT> Tr1n, oh you mean that even an upgrade would replace the repo URLs with the latest packages .. even if the version remains the same?
[00:51] <vIkSiT> Flannel, I'm trying not to. Let me explain..
[00:51] <ActionParsnip> th0r: just gets rid of the old configs
[00:51] <vIkSiT> I was trying to install a package for python, which installed 2.6 as well as 2.5 for me.
[00:51] <vIkSiT> Now, trying to install python-profiler gives me an error message:
[00:52] <vIkSiT> python-profiler: Depends: python (< 2.6) but 2.6.2-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[00:52] <ShawnC> ActionParsnip I can't sudo to nano the file...
[00:52] <vIkSiT> Flannel, Tr1n - so I'm confused about what I should do here.
[00:52] <vIkSiT> I already ahve python 2.6 installed - but seem to be stuck in some dependnecy problem
[00:52] <TiM1> firefox crashing with flash
[00:52] <Tr1n> vIkSiT:  I think you may be confusing apt-get update, which updates the packages in the repo, and apt-get upgrade which upgrades your OS
[00:53] <Flannel> vIkSiT: what version of Ubuntu are you running?
[00:53] <ActionParsnip> ShawnC: sudo nano /etc/hosts
[00:53] <vIkSiT> Tr1n, well, I know the difference - I used update, and then upgrade.
[00:53] <ShawnC> i did that
[00:53] <ShawnC> it doesn't work say's can't resolve dyllan-desktop
[00:53] <ShawnC> ActionParsnip ^
[00:53] <vIkSiT> Flannel, I _was_ on hardy - but now I seem to be on jaunty.
[00:53] <vIkSiT> how would I check?
[00:53] <Flannel> !hostname | ShawnC
[00:53] <Flannel> vIkSiT: lsb_release -a
[00:53] <vIkSiT> sigh, ok - its Jaunty
[00:54] <Flannel> vIkSiT: also, pastebin your sources.list (and anyting in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[00:54] <vIkSiT> so somehow, I got upgraded without wanting to.
[00:54] <JohnTeddy> I am trying to add a Canon MP620 printer to Ubuntu, it is on the network as 192.168.1.102. I don't see this printer listed in Ubuntu anywhere, how can I add it?
[00:54] <vIkSiT> doing.
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> ShawnC: then yu will need to boot to livecd to change the file, you have screwed to hostname resolve to localhost so you will get issues
[00:54] <Tr1n> vIkSiT: http://www.aboutdebian.com/packages.htm may help you understand
[00:54] <vIkSiT> Tr1n, checking that.
[00:55] <vIkSiT> Flannel, http://pastebin.com/de927e49
[00:55] <th0r> JohnTeddy: I think you can add it via cups...open a browser to localhost:631
[00:55] <vIkSiT> Tr1n, ah yes, I already know how to use them. My impression alwasy was that - update - updates package server repo lists, and upgrae downloads and installs the new, updated packages.
[00:55] <twas> How do I instruct a script to run a job as another user?
[00:55] <twas> I want a startup script to run a program as some user
[00:56] <vIkSiT> my hunch is that now I'm stuck in limbo between 8.10 and 9.04
[00:56] <Dr_Willis> twas:   the 'su' command i think can do that.  some how.
[00:56] <Relaed> Hello, I got "relay access denied" when trying to send mail from localhost with postfix, why ?
[00:56] <outy> hey my desktop background is kinda seethrough so that i can see the other sides of the cube, how do i stop that ?
[00:56] <Flannel> vIkSiT: Did you modify your sources.list by hand? or how were you trying to install python 2.6?
[00:56] <pinkey> my computer has been freezing up frequently as of late (requiring a full power-cycle to recover.)  In /var/log/messages, before the freeze it's always several hundred lines looking like this: "rt_ioctl_giwscan. 13(13) BSS returned, data->length = 1251", but I don't know what to do.
[00:56] <vIkSiT> Flannel, no modifications at all.
[00:56] <vIkSiT> Flannel, apt-get install python
[00:56] <vIkSiT> thats it.
[00:57] <vIkSiT> I dont actually know how to install using apt any other way..
[00:57] <spO> i can telnet to an ubuntu box using a blackberry or palm os pda?
[00:57] <Flannel> vIkSiT: well, python should've already been installed.
[00:57] <ActionParsnip> sp0: ssh is better
[00:57] <pinkey> When a machine freezes, how does one debug it?
[00:57] <ActionParsnip> sp0: telnet is unencrypted
[00:57] <ActionParsnip> pinkey: connect via ssh and run dmesg
[00:57] <vIkSiT> Flannel, yes. what happened was - I had py2.5 - and wantd to install a different version of apache (mpm worker) - which had some dependencies. It didn't work for me, so I removed it and installed the original apache.
[00:58] <Armageddon> ok now i am having a huge problem, gnome is not launching :)
[00:58] <rz_> how do i display folders that require sudo permissions from File Browser
[00:58] <vIkSiT> now this had some dependency, since i had run apt-get update before.
[00:58] <JohnTeddy> th0r: ipp or http?
[00:58] <vIkSiT> and it went and installed 2.6
[00:58] <vIkSiT> (and ubuntu/dev allow both to co exist)
[00:58] <vIkSiT> deb*
[00:58] <th0r> JohnTeddy: http://localhost:631
[00:58] <Dr_Willis> so far every question spO  has asked  about linux fetures have been a 'yes' :)
[00:58] <JohnTeddy> th0r: no I know, my canon printer, is it http or ipp?
[00:58] <Flannel> vIkSiT: ah!  Ok.  I see your problem.  You have hardy multiverse enabled (lines 26-29 on that paste) change those to jaunty, and youre dependency problems will go away.
[00:58] <JohnTeddy> th0r: for canon device type
[00:58] <ActionParsnip> rz_: if you run: ls -l *
[00:59] <vIkSiT> woo.
[00:59] <ActionParsnip> rz_: any files that are not yours or
[00:59] <vIkSiT> Flannel, once I remove those - what next?an update? upgrade?
[00:59] <th0r> JohnTeddy: not sure...haven't had a printer in years so don't mess with them
[00:59] <vIkSiT> or nothing at all?
[00:59] <ActionParsnip> rz_: give access to you by group will require sudo
[00:59] <MRZxSpectrum> Astew: Have you no shame ?
[00:59] <MRZxSpectrum> Leave now
[00:59] <Mike_lifeguard> Evolution isn't downloading MIME digests properly (via IMAP) - how can I force it to get the whole message instead of just the headers?
[00:59] <Armageddon> i tried to compile evolution manually, compiled some new version of the libraries it needed, than it didnt compile so i had to download the .deb file for the latest evolution, tried to install dpkg which gave me an error, so i tried to remove evolution which also game me an error, so i restarted and gnome is not starting again ! i am using the shell to connect, can anyone help ?
[01:00] <th0r> JohnTeddy: this might help....http://www.cups.org/documentation.php/network.html
[01:00] <Flannel> vIkSiT: Change, don't remove.  And then update/dist-upgrade
[01:00] <selig5>  /quit
[01:00] <vIkSiT> Flannel, ah so I replace hardy with jaunty?
[01:01] <bruce89> Armageddon: incidentally, why are you?
[01:01] <MRZxSpectrum> Piss off Stew... im angry at you atm
[01:01] <vIkSiT> and then do update/dist-upgrade.
[01:01] <Armageddon> bruce89: why ?
[01:01] <Flannel> vIkSiT: yeah
[01:01] <bruce89> Armageddon: actually, never mind
[01:01] <Flannel> vIkSiT: well, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:01] <Armageddon> bruce89: what is that question ?
[01:01] <LjL> MRZxSpectrum: language and attitude, would you mind? :(
[01:01] <vIkSiT> gotcha
[01:01] <vIkSiT> let me try that, thanks
[01:02] <bruce89> Armageddon: I just wondered what you're compiling Evolution for
[01:02] <Armageddon> bruce89: my version was not stable, and it used to crash and it was very old, why do you compile a newer version for ?
[01:02] <stew> MRZxSpectrum: hi, I think you've found the wrong channel.  this channel is for end-user support of ubuntu only.  I understand that you are upset, plesae confine you messages to my PM window.
[01:02] <vIkSiT> Flannel, while it happens - what do you think let to the sources getting replaed by jaunty? I deally, I wanted to stick wit hardy, not jaunty!
[01:03] <bruce89> Armageddon: I knew I shouldn't have asked
[01:03] <Flannel> vIkSiT: I have no idea.  You really shouldn't upgrade from Hardy to jaunty anyway, need to go through intrepid.
[01:03] <Armageddon> bruce89: i know, it would be apreciated if you tried to help instead
[01:03] <rz_> so is it better to run a server with my user credentials or sudo
[01:03] <Flannel> vIkSiT: Something else you did made that change.
[01:03] <vIkSiT> Flannel, precisely! I didn't want to do that in the first place
[01:03] <vIkSiT> Flannel, so - what could lead to this?
[01:03] <vIkSiT> Im pretty sure I didnt a) modify source lists, b)run dist-upgrade, c)do-release-upgrade
[01:04] <bruce89> Armageddon: you can't install random newer debian packages
[01:04] <Armageddon> bruce89: i wasn't installing debian packages
[01:04] <Flannel> vIkSiT: sed command? I know that's a popular (albeit poor technical choice) method in copy/paste situations.
[01:04] <vIkSiT> nope.
[01:04] <bruce89> Armageddon: .deb = debian packages
[01:04] <vIkSiT> my main point is - i was just trying to upgrade some packages - not the distribution :)
[01:05] <Armageddon> bruce89: downloaded from the ubuntu website that's 1 and 2 i said it didnt install cause i needed to remove the old one :)
[01:05] <vIkSiT> still dont get how it went to jaunty straight away..
[01:05] <Flannel> vIkSiT: right.  And nothing with apt-get would've modified that.  So, I have no idea what the issue is.
[01:05] <Flannel> vIkSiT: well, if your sources.list gets changed, it'll do the move.  Some things just might not be happy about it.
[01:05] <bruce89> Armageddon: ah, so it didn't remove for some reason
[01:05] <Armageddon> bruce89: yup !
[01:05] <vIkSiT> Flannel, oh well. so I guess damage control - do you think running 9.04 as a server is good enough (and at some point, update to the next LTS in 2010?)
[01:06] <Flannel> vIkSiT: It's not a supported upgrade path, but there's nothing in the code blocking it.
[01:06] <Armageddon> bruce89: i updated GTK+ and glib from source
[01:06] <bruce89> that's bound to cause trouble
[01:06] <Armageddon> bruce89: now how do i fix it ? :D
[01:06] <mistergibson> anyone know of a package to do smtp --> webmail ?
[01:06] <bruce89> Armageddon: I hope you still have the source?
[01:06] <Flannel> vIkSiT: I'd say at this point, you'll probably be fine. And yeah, get on the next LTS.
[01:06] <Armageddon> bruce89: nope i don't
[01:06] <bruce89> ah
[01:07] <bruce89> without the source, you can't remove it
[01:07] <xcv> i installed a lightweight httpd (or maybe ftpd?) within the last few months and ran it once. i'd like to run it again, but can't find it on the volume. any ideas about where to look for logs, or where on the volume?
[01:07] <Armageddon> bruce89: damn, there is no way to do so ?
[01:07] <Flannel> vIkSiT: Just for yucks, what does /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades contain? Prompt=what?
[01:07] <stryker> how can I verify the amount of video memory of my graphics card?
[01:08] <bruce89> Armageddon: not without manually removing the files from /usr/local (assuming you didn't change PREFIX)
[01:08] <vIkSiT> Flannel, normal
[01:08] <donnybrasco> msds: I think it worked ... going to reboot and see - thanks for your help
[01:08] <Armageddon> bruce89: i didn't change any prefixes
[01:08] <vIkSiT> should I change it LTS perhaps?
[01:08] <mistergibson> stryker: I think 'lspci -vv' will give you the greedy details
[01:08] <stryker> mistergibson: thnx
[01:09] <bruce89> Armageddon: I think you'll need to remove the relevant files from /usr/local manually; but what was the error on removing evolution?
[01:09] <stryker> mistergibson: it sure did give me a lot of info :P
[01:09] <Armageddon> bruce89: how can i copy in the shell ?
[01:09] <xcv> i installed a lightweight httpd (or maybe ftpd?) within the last few months and ran it once. i'd like to run it again, but can't find it on the volume. any ideas about where to look for logs, or where on the volume? of course there's no app icon for it and i don't recall the name of the server app. doh!
[01:09] <Armageddon> bruce89: i think its gconf ! i updated that too
[01:09] <mistergibson> stryker: yup --> look for Region0 or Region1 for the bulk of the mem space
[01:10] <bruce89> Armageddon: oh
[01:10] <bruce89> Armageddon: simply, you'll need to just wipe /usr/local
[01:10] <bruce89> that might cause issues though
[01:10] <Armageddon> bruce89: can i downgrade to the ones on the server ?
[01:10] <bruce89> the ones installed in /usr will take over automatically
[01:11] <Armageddon> bruce89: ok lemme see what i can do
[01:11] <myk_robinson> any Tuxguitar users on here? I just installed it from the repositories, and I cannot get any sound when playing a Guitar Pro 4 tab file. Any ideas?
[01:11] <mistergibson> smtp --> webmail : anyone got any ideas?
[01:11] <stryker> mistergibson: Region 0: Memory at c0000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]
[01:11] <stryker>  so its 256 right?
[01:11] <mistergibson> right, there ya go
[01:11] <bruce89> Armageddon: if you want to compile new versions of GNOME stuff, you should use GARGNOME or jhbuild
[01:11] <stryker> mistergibson: thanks a lot! .. jee i thought i had more jaja :P
[01:12] <mistergibson> hehe, np
[01:12] <MadEchidna> hey could someone tell me how to reset all network settings to default
[01:12] <MadEchidna> openvpn screwed something up and now I can't anything except for a basic web browser
[01:12] <MadEchidna> no irc or IM
[01:12] <mistergibson> anyone have a tasty url on the optimal way to do bridging on jaunty?
[01:13] <a_clever_name> how do i install kde as my primary windows manager ?
[01:13] <ShawnC> is openssh udp or tcp?
[01:13] <Armageddon> bruce89: meaning ? besides can you please query me cause in the shell this looks really bad and i can't follow !
[01:13] <mistergibson> a_clever_name: you could set your 'session' under kdm, gdm
[01:13] <a_clever_name> mistergibson, do i have to instll anything?
[01:14] <mistergibson> dunno - got a couple o questions
[01:14] <a_clever_name> thanks
[01:14] <mistergibson> want to switch to kde from something else?
[01:14] <th0r> I have been using firestarter and it works fine. But is there a way to have it automatically start at bootup without prompting for the password?
[01:14] <fission61> do you guys use gnome terminal or something else
[01:14] <a_clever_name> no  i want to switch form GNOME to kde
[01:15] <kandinski> I am installing some ruby gems on ubuntu 9.04, but they don't get installed in my $PATH. Can anybody tell me where they go so I can add them to my environment? thanks!
[01:15] <mistergibson> you will have to install kde (latest) and probably kdm
[01:15] <mistergibson> log out, choose kde as session and log in again
[01:15] <mistergibson> see how you like it
[01:15] <mistergibson> if you like it -- you set it as your default
[01:15] <dsalinas_> did you try kubuntu????
[01:15] <a_clever_name> do i just type something like sudo apt get kde ?
[01:16] <mistergibson> that would work -- if you want to do an involved installl
[01:16] <mistergibson> I'd use synaptic package manager
[01:16] <a_clever_name> ok
[01:16] <Mike_lifeguard> also it is "apt-get" not "apt get"
[01:16] <edbian> fission61: I use gnome-terminal
[01:17] <Mike_lifeguard> and you forgot to tell apt-get what you want to do (install... so sudo apt-get install kde)
[01:17] <bastid_razor> a_clever_name, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop will install kde/kubuntu
[01:17] <chauncellor> a_clever_name, "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" will do it
[01:17] <fission61> i hate my profile, what font do you use, i cant read my for crap
[01:17] <UO> anyone use blue organizer for firefox? I can't find it anymore
[01:17] <TiM1> opera without flash..
[01:17] <mistergibson> anyone noticed FF being a nasty cpu & mem pig these days?  I liked 1.5
[01:18] <mistergibson> light and fast
[01:18] <a_clever_name>  ok i will try that and get back to you
[01:18] <mistergibson> good luck :)(
[01:21] <a_clever_name>   holy fuck after installing kde 453MB of disk space will be used
[01:21] <VCoolio> a_clever_name: yeah, it's the complete desktop environment with all the apps
[01:21] <edbian> a_clever_name: It's as big as gnome!  Holy-F***!
[01:21] <donnybrasco> hello - I am running jaunty and have just removed my windows and ubuntu 8.10 partitions using gparted; everything seems to be working fine (after a few hiccoughs).  I am now about to edit my grub menu to remove the old operating systems from it.  My question is: should I remove all entries except "title		Ubuntu 9.04, kernel 2.6.28-13-generic" and title		Ubuntu 9.04, kernel 2.6.28-13-generic (recovery mode)"?
[01:22] <xybre> Okay
[01:22] <jiohdi> can you run kde stuff without installing the kde desktop?
[01:22] <a_clever_name> vote now should i do it
[01:22] <xybre> I have a production server running ubuntu, and I want to update it (looks like its been a while) but I want to be able to roll back if it causes problems.
[01:22] <xybre> Is there a sane way of doing this?
[01:23] <jiohdi> hard disk clone?
[01:23] <aboyz> can someon tell me what is a Mitigators?
[01:23] <a_clever_name> xybre,  get a mac
[01:23] <xybre> I don't have physical access to the box.
[01:23] <xybre> ..
[01:24] <Zxcvb> I tried installing the 2.6.30.3 kernel package from http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.30.3/ but when I go to install the nvidia kernel module, I get an error because the kernel was compiled with gcc 4.2 but I have 4.3
[01:24] <B1OS> I need to use Wake-On-LAN, What would be causing my NIC to power off when i shut down?
[01:24] <Zxcvb> any idea where I can get a working 2.6.30.3 kernel package other than manually compiling it?
[01:24] <pdtaptrick> Hi can someone please help- this is driving me nuts. Im trying to restart bind9 and im getting this error in /var/log/daemon:  /etc/bind/named.conf.local:9: open: /etc/rndc.key: permission denied
[01:25] <Coobra> clflush size: 64 <--- 64bits?
[01:25] <craigwell> i corrupted my firefox on ubuntu 9.04, after installing a flash plugin
[01:25] <pdtaptrick> anyone?
[01:25] <craigwell> wont keep my bookmarks, or allow back/forward, etc
[01:26] <craigwell> anyone have a suggestion how i can fix this?
[01:26] <craigwell> firefox exits when i try to manage add ons
[01:26] <jiohdi> craigwell, cant you just uninstall and reinstall firefox?
[01:26] <a_clever_name> craigwell, go to about:config
[01:26] <Lucifer_Cat> hey folks. if I want to reinstall ubuntu, can I just boot it from the usb and go over the installation steps? will that remove all my user data?
[01:26] <B1OS> I need to use Wake-On-LAN, What would be causing my NIC to power off when i shut down? PXE is enabled in the BIOS.
[01:27] <Mike_lifeguard> Lucifer_Cat: move /home to it's own partition then reinstall on /
[01:27] <pdtaptrick> anyone?
[01:27] <pdtaptrick> Hi can someone please help- this is driving me nuts. Im trying to restart bind9 and im getting this error in /var/log/daemon:  /etc/bind/named.conf.local:9: open: /etc/rndc.key: permission denied
[01:27] <a_clever_name> and delete any thing that says userset that you did not do yourself
[01:27] <laymansnerd_> hey room what is the easiest firewall config
[01:27] <laymansnerd_> gui
[01:27] <th0r> laymansnerd: firestarter
[01:28] <jiohdi> does linux need a firewall?
[01:28] <donnybrasco> hello - I am running jaunty and have just removed my windows and ubuntu 8.10 partitions using gparted; everything seems to be working fine (after a few hiccoughs).  I am now about to edit my grub menu to remove the old operating systems from it.  My question is: should I remove all entries except "title		Ubuntu 9.04, kernel 2.6.28-13-generic" and title		Ubuntu 9.04, kernel 2.6.28-13-generic (recovery mode)"?
[01:28] <Sirius_Black> Mike_lifeguard: I actually _Want_ it to remove my user data. I am selling the machine off to someone else.
[01:28] <craigwell> a_clever_name: i'm in there
[01:28] <Mike_lifeguard> Sirius_Black: sorry -- then you should use dd or something to erase things securely
[01:29] <th0r> jiohdi: can't hurt
[01:29] <a_clever_name> yes it will delete everything if you reinstall if yoursystem is getigg slugish however instll bleach bit and do a full system scan
[01:29] <jiohdi> th0r, can't slow system down?
[01:29] <Zxcvb> Sirus_Black: I hear shred is useful, or just use dban if you want to wipe everything on the disk
[01:29] <chauncellor> donnybrasco, That sounds reasonable
[01:29] <th0r> jiohdi: not appreciably, iptables is built into the kernel
[01:29] <chauncellor> donnybrasco, I'm guessing those are old kernel entries, yes?
[01:29] <chauncellor> Sirius_Black, dban is amazing for nuking
[01:30] <bruce89> good old dd
[01:30] <craigwell> i think i'm stuck in a default config
[01:30] <stryker> im trying to get a game to work under wine, installation was fine, but when i start to play, i get a directx error, can anyone help? http://paste.ubuntu.com/235541/ <== thats the console info after i ran the game with wine
[01:30] <Sirius_Black> chauncellor: cool. and it will keep the other partition safe, right. theres XP on it which i do not want to touch
[01:30] <craigwell> when i removed the firefox package, it still remained launchable on the taskbar
[01:30] <Nexxus> have linux questions? #CLIUC
[01:30] <a_clever_name> craigwell, i'm unsure if i want to contune or just coppy my files and instll kubuntu
[01:31] <chauncellor> Sirius_Black, whoa, dban will nuke the whole thing
[01:31] <chauncellor> Sirius_Black, at least I think
[01:31] <bruce89> craigwell: remove the launcher
[01:31] <Sirius_Black> then its cool :P im selling it to a noob girl anyways, shes not going to run all sorts of file recovery
[01:31] <sebsebseb> Sirius_Black: no Dban will wipe the whole hard disk
[01:32] <chauncellor> sebsebseb, thanks for clarifying :D :D
[01:32] <MRZxSpectrum> test abc
[01:32] <MRZxSpectrum> Good
[01:32] <sebsebseb> chauncellor: ok np
[01:32] <Lucifer_Cat> thanks sebsebseb
[01:32] <MRZxSpectrum> Hello sebsebseb dood!
[01:32] <a_clever_name> Lucifer_Cat, put it in the microwave
[01:33] <sebsebseb> Lucifer_Cat: np and sell it to her with pre installed Ubuntu :)
[01:33] <chauncellor> Lucifer_Cat, would you be satisfied with just reformatting the partition and putting a buttload of data on and off it?
[01:33] <Lucifer_Cat> chauncellor: i guess that would work.
[01:33] <Lucifer_Cat> it will have reformat option on it, right, when i reinstall
[01:33] <stryker> fixme:win:EnumDisplayDevicesW ((null),0,0x32e510,0x00000000), stub!
[01:33] <stryker> err: d3d:resource_init Out of adapter memory
[01:33] <stryker> what does that mean?
[01:34] <d0htem> need ruby 1.9.1 ! :/
[01:34] <donnybrasco> chauncellor: yeah - my laptop was intially running Vista (which obviously sucks), then I tried dual-boot with 8.04  ... while upgrading ubuntu to 8.10 I lost power and it became corrupted, so I installed MCE but had a bunch of issues with the licence - so I installed 9.04 and loved it once I found out about this irc and set it all up correctly, so I decided to remove everything except 9.04 with gparted ... tha
[01:34] <donnybrasco> t's the story in a nutshell
[01:34] <FloodBot3> donnybrasco: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:34] <a_clever_name> Lucifer_Cat, just make pancakes
[01:34] <mcpancakes> om nom nom
[01:34] <donnybrasco> floodbot: I don't understand (sorry, I'm new at this)
[01:34] <Lucifer_Cat> a_clever_name: seeing as how I do not have any military secrets on that machine, I think its cool :P
[01:35] <a_clever_name> good
[01:35] <sebsebseb> donnybrasco: floodbot is a computer program not a person
[01:35] <sebsebseb> donnybrasco: it will message you when you type a bit to much at once
[01:35] <donnybrasco> haha ... oh
[01:35] <Lucifer_Cat> donnybrasco: basically you pasted/typed in too much text in a single message, and the program thought you were doing it intentionally
[01:35] <chauncellor> donnybrasco, There's a program called startupmanager in the repos that can automate that for you
[01:35] <sebsebseb> donnybrasco: and it might also kick you out of the channal
[01:36] <ZOMBE> I have a game in Desktop/lbz3d and I have been trying to install it. I have done sudo sh install lbzrun and a bunch of other things. How can i get it to install?
[01:36] <datakid> hola, on Jaunty, using firefox 3.5 from the ppa, google gears doesn't work?
[01:36] <datakid> apparently it should
[01:37] <donnybrasco> thanks chauncellor - I'm checking that out now
[01:37] <sebsebseb> MRZxSpectrum: hi
[01:37] <UO> How do I images my dual-booting XP and Ubuntu 9.04 ext4 filesystem?
[01:37] <donnybrasco> sebsebseb: thanks for the tip - I'll keep that in mind
[01:37] <sebsebseb> donnybrasco: ok
[01:37] <sebsebseb> donnybrasco: also
[01:37] <sebsebseb> !bot > donnybrasco
[01:38] <yesitjustme> i tried connecting my hdtv on my computer to use as a monitor but is not displaying, on my pc i use a vga 15 pin male to male cable what could be wrong?
[01:38] <edbian> yesitjustme: When you system boots linux probes the hardware.  Try REbooting with the HDTV plugged in (and on and set to the right input)
[01:39] <d0htem> will karmic include ruby 1.9.1?
[01:39] <d0htem> is this the right channel to ask?
[01:39] <yesitjustme> ok
[01:39] <Pici> d0htem: #ubuntu+1 please
[01:39] <yesitjustme> thanks
[01:39] <edbian> yesitjustme: Good luck!
[01:39] <d0htem> Pici: thx
[01:40] <bruce89> !info ruby karmic
[01:40] <xcv> trying again. my mission is to locate a server app i installed within the last few months. i can't find it
[01:40] <StrangeCharm_> what ports are only usable by root?
[01:40] <Dr_Willis> StrangeCharm_:  normally the lower 1024 ports I think are reserved.. (im going from my old ,memory here)
[01:41] <StrangeCharm_> cheers, Dr_Willis
[01:41] <th0r> StrangeCharm: it isn't that the ports are reserved for root..but often the software that uses those ports can only be started or stopped by root
[01:41] <ZOMBE> How can I install a game? It's on Desktop/lbz3d. I have tried sudo sh install lbzrun and nothing has worked...
[01:42] <edbian> ZOMBE: Is lbz3d a folder?
[01:42] <Dr_Willis> ZOMBE:  where did ya get that 'sh install whatever' command from?
[01:42] <StrangeCharm_> th0r, indeed
[01:42] <ZOMBE> edbian: ywa
[01:42] <xcv> trying again. my mission is to locate a server app i installed within the last few months. i can't find it... and i am asking for help with ideas on how search for it or what logs to check. please? :)
[01:42] <UO> How do I images my dual-booting XP and Kubuntu 9.04 ext4 filesystem?
[01:42] <edbian> ZOMBE: Sorry?
[01:42] <ZOMBE> Dr_Willis a message board
[01:42] <donnybrasco> sebsebseb: thanks for the links and info - appreciate all the help I've gotten on here (from everyone) makes the whole linux transition so much easier when you can talk to an actual person!!
[01:43] <ZOMBE> edbian: lbz3d is a folder on the Desktop, lbzrun is the filename installer
[01:43] <Joe1> anyone know a dreamweaver alternative for ubuntu ?
[01:43] <th0r> xcv maybe if you told us what app you installed we might have some idea what to tell you
[01:43] <Zxcvb> !info linux-image karmic
[01:43] <edbian> ZOMBE: Is this source code?  Or a pre-compiled package?
[01:43] <sebsebseb> donnybrasco: yeah no probs
[01:43] <Joe1> anyone know a dreamweaver alternative for ubuntu ?
[01:43] <xcv> th0r: that's part of the problem... can't remember the name of the app... it was a httpd or perhaps a ftpd
[01:43] <magical_walrus> is it possible to specify a swap partition after I have installed ubuntu?
[01:43] <sebsebseb> !html |  Joe1
[01:43] <ZOMBE> edbian: pre-compiled package I believe. It was zipped in a tar.bz2
[01:44] <Dr_Willis> ZOMBE:  'sh install whtever' makes no sence
[01:44] <ZOMBE> edbian: I got it to install once now I can't remember what I did.
[01:44] <Joe1> ubottu it needs to be pretty easy to use
[01:44] <chauncellor> Joe1, gedit (joke, joke)
[01:44] <xcv> th0r: but i do recall i ran it from terminal... don't recall if i used sudo to invoke it.
[01:44] <sebsebseb> Joe1: depending on the version and such,  you can also Wine Dreamweaver
[01:44] <ZOMBE> Dr_Willis: I really don't know what I am doing, first day on any linux system.
[01:44] <edbian> ZOMBE: .tar.bz2 means it is source code.  (not a pre-compilied package.  Those end in .rpm or .deb usually :) )
[01:44] <Dr_Willis> ZOMBE: unpack the archive.. cd to the directroy the game is in.. look whates there.
[01:44] <sebsebseb> !bot |  Joe1
[01:44] <Dr_Willis> ZOMBE:  perhaps ya should explore the games in the repositories.. and read  up on linux fundamentals.
[01:44] <edbian> ZOMBE: If you installed it once you should not need to do it again
[01:44] <Joe1> sebsebseb - what versions are available do you know ?
[01:45] <ZOMBE> Dr_Willis I did unpack it. Now I have a lbzrun file that I can't figure out how to install. I had it installed then I had to format the hard drive and can't figure out how I got it.
[01:45] <magical_walrus> Is it possible to specify a swap partition after I have installed ubuntu?
[01:45] <Dr_Willis> ZOMBE:  theres dozens of games easially installed via the package manager
[01:45] <UO> How do I images my dual-booting XP and Kubuntu 9.04 ext4 filesystem?
[01:45] <ZOMBE> edbian: I had to format due  to video card issue.
[01:45] <sebsebseb> !wine >  Joe1
[01:45] <Dr_Willis> ZOMBE:  try ./lbzrun   to 'run' the thing Unless thats a directroy name.. if so look IN the directory
[01:45] <edbian> ZOMBE: First extract the archive so it's a regular folder
[01:45] <chauncellor> magical_walrus, you can use GParted to do that
[01:45] <network___> I have a 22" monitor, so it gets very annoying when applications launch in fullscreen, or maximized.
[01:45] <sebsebseb> Joe1: http://appdb.winehq.org
[01:45] <network___> is there a way to lock windows to a certian size?
[01:46] <sebsebseb> Joe1: also with enough RAM you can even virtual machine Windows inside Ubuntu for Dreamweaver
[01:46] <ZOMBE> edbian: It's extracted
[01:46] <magical_walrus> chauncellor: I can specify a swap partition with GParted, or just make one?
[01:46] <Dr_Willis> network___:  that 'devilspie' program can do that i recall.
[01:46] <fiber_cut> how do I turn off gtk-record my desktop
[01:46] <fiber_cut> I jsut have a window border
[01:46] <chauncellor> magical_walrus, there's a context menu item for "swapon" and "swapoff"
[01:46] <network___> Thanks!
[01:46] <magical_walrus> chauncellor: Oh, thanks.
[01:46] <chauncellor> magical_walrus, No problem :)
[01:46] <ZOMBE> Dr_Willis it worked but I got a error saying kdialog not found
[01:46] <network___> I appreciate that!
[01:47] <Dr_Willis> fiber_cut:  after you start recording. it puts an icon in the system tray
[01:47] <Dr_Willis> ZOMBE:  you need to install kdialog then.
[01:47] <Dr_Willis> !find kdialog
[01:47] <UO> How do makes images of my dual-booting XP and Kubuntu 9.04 ext4 filesystem? Gparted?
[01:47] <chauncellor> record-my-desktop is such a pain to record audio....
[01:47] <magical_walrus> Aso, I've been getting the 'white screen of death' occasionally (where the system crashes and the screen goes completely white). COuld the problem be that I didn't specify a swap partition?
[01:48] <ZOMBE> Dr_Willis: It's installing. Would you mind helping me with one more question?
[01:48] <Dr_Willis> ZOMBE:  its in the kdebase-bin package it seems..
[01:48] <Dr_Willis> sudo apt-get install kdebase-bin
[01:48] <chauncellor> magical_walrus, er... I don't know about that. First thing I'd say is an Xorg problem or a display driver problem... NVidia?
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[01:48] <FloodBot3> a_clever_name: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:49] <Zxcvb> has anyone used the kernel packages at http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.30.3/ ?
[01:49] <magical_walrus> chauncellor: I have an ATI graphics card, and the whole time I used 8.04, i never had the problem.
[01:49] <UO> How do makes images of my dual-booting XP and Kubuntu 9.04 ext4 filesystem? Gparted?
[01:50] <jabagawee> anyone know how rm works? i rm -rf'ed my data directory, and i have a feelign it's still recoverable
[01:50] <magical_walrus> chauncellor: But, I'm using the latest version of ubuntu now (9.04) and it does it occasionally
[01:50] <Dr_Willis> ati has moved removed support from many of their cards from the newer fglrx drivers.
[01:50] <ZOMBE> The Ubuntu NVIDIA drivers are 1.80, outdated, new ones are 1.85. I successully got the new 1.85 to install but the screen still scrolled laggy like I had no display drivers. So I ended up installing the Ubuntu 1.80 so I could have display drivers. What went wrong with 1.85? It said the install was successful. I stopped xorg, did it just like I was suppose to, but still didn't function right.
[01:50] <edbian> UO: gparted can copy partitions.  So can dd.  Neither tool however will be able to copy the MBR
[01:50] <Dr_Willis> jabagawee:  rm just unlinks the files from the sfilesystem..  they may or ,may not be recoverable..
[01:50] <th0r> jabagawee: nope....it isn't recoverable
[01:50] <Dr_Willis> jabagawee:  if you are wanting to be paranoid theres secure deletion tools out there.
[01:50] <jabagawee> okay full story
[01:51] <UO> edbian, what commercial products do you know that can image the partition? Open source is okay as well
[01:51] <chauncellor> magical_walrus, I've never used an ATI card before (though once the drivers get good, I'm ditching the ****hole that is NVidia!
[01:51] <jabagawee> edbian, i was under the belief that dd can copy the MBR
[01:51] <dave__> Ineed help setting up a dial up app for a friend
[01:51] <magical_walrus> chauncellor: Any idea what may be the problem? I have a swap partition on 8.04, but not on 9.04
[01:51] <Dr_Willis> chauncellor:  it seem ati is not doing that much better these days either.
[01:51] <HrafnNordhri> greets what channel do I go to to see about submitting artwork?
[01:51] <edbian> UO: I just said.  gparted and dd
[01:52] <chauncellor> magical_walrus, how much RAM do you have?
[01:52] <Dr_Willis> jabagawee:  'dd' can copy the mbr to a file and back.. yes.
[01:52] <lomez> hey, i have ubuntu netbook remix but no gnome control center. how do i get it? i tried to install via apt-get control-center but it wasnt the package
[01:52] <edbian> jabagawee: That's possible.  I'm not aware of how though
[01:52] <magical_walrus> chauncellor: Never checked that
[01:52] <magical_walrus> one moment
[01:52] <chauncellor> Dr_Willis, but I've heard that the usual broken things have been fixed, like video playback...
[01:52] <jabagawee> i store all my stuff in /srv. rsync'ed a copy of /srv to /backups/srv a few days back (i know, no cronjob yet, and no offsite. but still, better than nothing). in alpha order, the first subdir (there are no files in /srv, only subdirs) is "Books," which was last modified well before the rsync. My dearest wish is that rm unlinks files starting from the first subdir in alpha order, in which case my rsync'ed copy can save my day
[01:52] <jabagawee> anyone know if that is true?
[01:52] <UO> edbian, is there something like norton ghost for linux?
[01:52] <chauncellor> or at least been made better
[01:53] <nevyn> UO: dd
[01:53] <dave__> can anyone help me, trying to set up gnome.ppp on a friends laptop
[01:53] <Dr_Willis> chauncellor:  i still see people in here with cards that 'used' to work with fglrx and no longer do.. thats not a big help to them.  I dont plan on using ati any time soon.
[01:53] <edbian> UO: Not that I know of.  dd and gparted as just as fast and do the same job essentially though
[01:53] <magical_walrus> chauncellor: I assume my RAM is around 1-2 GB
[01:53] <UO> okay. thanks edbian and nevyn
[01:53] <nevyn> UO: in general linux doesn't need tools with "magic" knowledge
[01:53] <edbian> UO: NP!   Good luck
[01:53] <Dr_Willis> UO:  there is a 'ghost4linux' tool called g4l I think. that works similary. (i havent used it so cant vouch for it)
[01:53] <yufeng> 中
[01:53] <chauncellor> magical_walrus, when you get the white screen, are you running lots of applications?
[01:54] <nevyn> UO: in a previous life we had to deploy a LOT of linux machines and wrote an installer in shell that used netcat and tar
[01:54] <xjunior> hi all, I have a Intel HDA audio controller, but I'm not being able to use it on skype or even on gnome-recorder
[01:54] <chauncellor> magical_walrus, My swap isn't used all that much, really, and I have 2 Gb RAM
[01:54] <lomez> edbian, jabagawee There's Partition Image which is pretty good
[01:54] <xjunior> can someone help me?
[01:54] <edbian> xjunior: Depends on your issue :)
[01:54] <magical_walrus> chauncellor: No, but Firefox is always open during the crash, and terminal is open on a few crashes
[01:54] <matiu> Just in case no-one knows, packages.ubuntu.com seems to be broken .. giving errors: http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/openssh-server and not finding anything in any searches
[01:55] <xjunior> edbian, I already said :)
[01:55] <xjunior> hi all, I have a Intel HDA audio controller, but I'm not being able to use it on skype or even on gnome-recorder
[01:55] <mechtech> !ask | xjunior
[01:55] <xcthulhu> This is probably a bit esoteric, but is anyone here familiar with dietlibc?
[01:55] <edbian> xjunior: Ooops!  Sorry.  No I don't know I've never set up skype :/
[01:55] <UO> nevyn, that sounds complicated
[01:55] <Xqtftqx> Hello everybody, im having tons of issues using fusermount. I keep getting operation not permitted. I've gone threw about 3 pages of google searches and tried everything suggeset and nothing has worked.
[01:55] <chauncellor> magical_walrus, weird. I'm afraid I don't know.... I'd blame Xorg first, but that's not really fair as I don't really know all that is happening
[01:55] <xjunior> edbian, I don't think that the problem is with skype
[01:55] <jabagawee> so anyone familiar with how rsync works?
[01:55] <lomez> hey, i have ubuntu netbook remix but no gnome control center. how do i get it? i tried to install via apt-get control-center but it wasnt the name. ideas?
[01:55] <jabagawee> s/rsync/rm/
[01:56] <chauncellor> magical_walrus, or the ATI driver.
[01:56] <B1OS> I need to use Wake-On-LAN, What would be causing my NIC to power off when i shut down? PXE is enabled in the BIOS.
[01:56] <magical_walrus> chauncellor: I'm a little bit of an ubuntu noob. What does xorg do, exactly?
[01:56] <edbian> xjunior: You're probably right.  I was just saying I don't know how to help you :(
[01:56] <xcthulhu> jabagawee: You might try using the man; type "man rm"
[01:56] <Dr_Willis> !find gnome-control-center
[01:56] <eeeuser133> hi
[01:56] <Dr_Willis> lomez:  its in ^^^^
[01:56] <edbian> magical_walrus: xorg is the base of your graphical desktop! :)
[01:56] <xjunior> edbian, that's ok ;) thank you anyway
[01:56] <edbian> xjunior: Good luck!
[01:56] <network___> Hello, I just downloaded devilspie, and I cannot find it in the menus.so I went to the terminal and ran it. then I got this error message. :No s-expressions loaded, quiting
[01:56] <magical_walrus> chauncellor: Also, I am not using an ATI driver. It seems none are available for 9.04 yet
[01:56] <xcthulhu> jabagawee: But to get you started, rm -r removes recursively, and rm -i is "interactive" mode, where it asks you if you want to delete
[01:57] <jabagawee> xcthulhu, the manpage doesnt help very much for my situation...
[01:57] <Dr_Willis> jabagawee:  i find rm works rather well. :)  is tehre some specific problem you are having with it?
[01:57] <xcthulhu> jabagawee: What are you trying to do?
[01:57] <network___> Also, Im running in gnome
[01:57] <magical_walrus> chauncellor: I have not installed a driver at all
[01:57] <jabagawee> Dr_Willis, lemme paste my situation again
[01:57] <edbian> network___: You have to have a minimal configuration file set up for devilspie to run.
[01:57] <jabagawee> i store all my stuff in /srv. rsync'ed a copy of /srv to /backups/srv a few days back (i know, no cronjob yet, and no offsite. but still, better than nothing). in alpha order, the first subdir (there are no files in /srv, only subdirs) is "Books," which was last modified well before the rsync. My dearest wish is that rm unlinks files starting from the first subdir in alpha order, in which case my rsync'ed copy can save my day
[01:57] <Dr_Willis> network___:  its not a gui app.  check its docs/homepage. you have to make some rulesets for it.
[01:57] <network___> ok
[01:57] <network___> thanks
[01:57] <chauncellor> magical_walrus, Xorg is the window system used. It's the system that enables a graphical environment
[01:57] <edbian> network___: Look here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75749
[01:58] <chauncellor> I used Jaunty on an Intel-Graphics powered machine and it was HELL
[01:58] <Dr_Willis> jabagawee:  if you are worried about the order things get removed.. you could use 'find' and the options it has to remove things in a specific order.
[01:58] <eeeuser133> whats the name of the ubuntu installer? ubuguility?
[01:58] <jabagawee> eeeuser133, ubiquity?
[01:58] <chauncellor> magical_walrus, I'm googling around for your problem...
[01:58] <network___> Thanks!
[01:58] <edbian> eeeuser133: ubiquity lol
[01:58] <Dr_Willis> jabagawee:  if this is about recovering things.. well.. no idea on that.. good luck undeleting things.
[01:58] <jabagawee> Dr_Willis, the situation is that i already rm'ed some files... so i want to know what order rm does it in
[01:58] <chauncellor> magical_walrus, have you done any drastic changes to your system?
[01:59] <magical_walrus> No
[01:59] <ultraz> Hello, I am really bad when it comes to linux and graphics .... I need to setup my (01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc M52 [Mobility Radeon X1300] [1002:7149]) can somebody help me? Up until now i used System > Administration > Hardware drivers, and just checked graphic driver, but now i don't get anything listed.
[01:59] <Dr_Willis> jabagawee:  from what ive seen it does it aplhabetically   make some test dirs and watch the order perhaps?
[01:59] <eeeuser133> edbian: lol yeah. that thing crashes when i try to install eeebuntu
[01:59] <jabagawee> Dr_Willis, err... sure
[01:59] <magical_walrus> chauncellor: No
[01:59] <edbian> ultraz: Are you trying to turn on compiz?
[01:59] <Dr_Willis> jabagawee:   check the timestamps on the things perhaps  to see when it was last modfied/
[02:00] <eeeuser133> although i realise this is not the eeebuntu channel. but i think there isnt one
[02:00] <jabagawee> Dr_Willis, thats a great suggestion. otoh, i might also need to do a bitta reading on the rm source code
[02:00] <jabagawee> where would that be/
[02:00] <ultraz> edbian: well, maybe later on. But i am trying to change resolution.
[02:00] <Dr_Willis> !find rm
[02:00] <Dr_Willis> heh.. :)
[02:00] <Xqtftqx> Is anybody able to help me with fusermount? I keep getting "fusermount: mount failed: Operation not permitted" when I am not root.
[02:00] <edbian> ultraz: What are you stuck at?
[02:00] <Dr_Willis> Xqtftqx:  for users to  use fuse - they normally have to be in the FUSE user group i recall.
[02:01] <Xqtftqx> Dr_Willis: I am in the fuse group.
[02:01] <Dr_Willis> Xqtftqx:  perhaps you are using the command wrong then.
[02:01] <Xqtftqx> im using sshfs
[02:01] <chauncellor> magical_walrus, the only thing I can suggest is that you boot into recovery mode and select the option to "repair X" it will automatically configure it for you. But I'm not sure if that would help
[02:01] <edbian> Xqtftqx: You have to restart the system for group policy to take effect.
[02:01] <jabagawee> Dr_Willis, i'll be darned if google keeps telling me that "rm source code" refers to realmedia... no i do not want to know how realplayer handles streams, thank you
[02:01] <mechtech> anybody know where I can find any GOOD content on shoutcast?
[02:01] <chauncellor> Anyone else have any ideas?
[02:02] <magical_walrus> chauncellor: Is there it a possibility it will b0rk my installation/change anything?
[02:02] <Dr_Willis> jabagawee:  check the apt package manager docs/guides therew a way to get them to download the soruce packages but ive never done so.. and i dont know what package 'rm' is in.
[02:02] <DevilBass> help my  hdd  free space is Shortening Every certain time
[02:02] <yesitjustme> Is it true that to use a hdtv as a pc monitor dvi cable is needed? Cause what i use was a vga 15 pin male to male and didn't work?
[02:02] <chauncellor> magical_walrus, you're not using any drivers and you aren't using desktop effects, right?
[02:02] <jabagawee> Dr_Willis, most likely gnu coreutils
[02:02] <magical_walrus> chauncellor: Correct
[02:02] <Dr_Willis> yesitjustme:  ive used vga cables to a tv befor.
[02:02] <jabagawee> meh, i'll get it somehow. i'm running gentoo anyways
[02:02] <edbian> yesitjustme: You do not need dvi.  VGA should be fine
[02:03] <Dr_Willis> yesitjustme:  my tv's have both.. vga and dvi
[02:03] <ultraz> edbian: the highest resolution given in display preferences is 1024x768. This display should support 1400 x 1050, so i thought i need display driver.
[02:03] <Dr_Willis> well hdmi
[02:03] <Dr_Willis> :)
[02:03] <Xodiac13> i just bought a pc controller does ubuntu detect that as a controller so i can use it on n64 emulators
[02:03] <chauncellor> magical_walrus, then it should not harm it. Reconfiguring X will sometimes cause some issues with drivers and fancy effects, but usually all you have to do is re-enable them
[02:03] <yesitjustme> ok i see
[02:03] <magical_walrus> chauncellor: Ok, thanks.
[02:03] <chauncellor> magical_walrus, I'd put that swap on, as well. Maybe that is the problem after all, but it's good to be safe :)
[02:03] <Dr_Willis> Xodiac13:  you mean a gamepad?.. it shuld work..   see if other games detect/use it..
[02:03] <edbian> ultraz: xrandr -q will show a list of all the resolutions that should be possible.  What do you see from the output of that command?
[02:03] <chauncellor> magical_walrus, let me know how it works out
[02:03] <magical_walrus> chauncellor: Will do.
[02:04] <runa_> hi i have a problem with conky: after several hours that of usage, it fills 40% of my ram. here is my conkyrc http://pastebin.com/d7abe39dd
[02:04] <Xodiac13> Dr_Willis: yes a gamepad i just want to make sure i can use it on the emulators and there are n64 emulators for linux right that can play online like mupen64
[02:04] <DevilBass> help my  hdd  free space is Shortening Every certain time some body know why?
[02:04] <ultraz> edbian: :Q, hm ..... max 1024x768
[02:04] <xjunior> hi all, I have a Intel HDA audio controller, but I'm not being able to use it on skype or even on gnome-recorder
[02:04] <Dr_Willis> Xodiac13:  there are n64 emulators.. ive not used them.   if the thing supports gamepads.. it should work..
[02:04] <ultraz> edbian: thanks, i guess my display cant support higher resolution after all.
[02:04] <Xqtftqx> edbian: Restarting didn't fix anything.
[02:05] <edbian> ultraz: No no
[02:05] <edbian> ultraz: You may be correct
[02:05] <edbian> ultraz: xrandr -q isn't the end all be all
[02:05] <DevilBass> ayuda el espacio libre de mi hdd se va reduciendo de cuando en cuando
[02:05] <edbian> Xqtftqx: sorry :(
[02:05] <duckwars> what is it called when I wanna make a small text file that makes it so when i type "duckwars" it substitutes with  "ssh duckwars@10.0.1.10". I'm just trying to figure out what to google
[02:05] <ultraz> edbian: :-)
[02:05] <edbian> ultraz: pm me
[02:05] <Xodiac13> Dr_Willis: okay nice nice and i plan on getting a radeon 4780 hd graphics card is it better to go with nvidia from what i heard and with ram i plan on upgrading my ram
[02:06] <gokturk_> ubuntutr
[02:06] <Xqtftqx> Does anybody else have any ideas on why I cannot use sshfs?
[02:06] <lomez> ty Dr_Willis
[02:06] <xFlux> duckwars:  Just use an alias in your bashrc file
[02:06] <xFlux> duckwars=`ssh duckwars@10.0.1.10`
[02:06] <gokturk_> #ubuntu-tr
[02:06] <duckwars> xFlux, my brother was helping do this, but it is weird on OS X because you can't store it in the standard linux folder
[02:07] <dassouki> is there a way to install an unstable version ? with apt-get
[02:07] <duckwars> I don't know where to put the text file to make OS X know I want it as a command
[02:07] <xFlux> duckwars:  If you type cd ~; ls -la it should show .bashrc
[02:08] <xFlux> duckwars:  If its not there try creating one.  BASH is used in OSX as well, so it should use the same conventions
[02:08] <Dulak> duckwars: you have to make it, ~/.bashrc it doesn't exist by default on osx
[02:09] <xFlux> Xqtftqx:  I noticed that today with fusessh not properly installing on 9.04.  The end result was me downloading and self compiling.
[02:09] <duckwars> thank you guys
[02:09] <Xqtftqx> xFlux: Ill try that then.
[02:09] <DevilBass> help my  hdd  free space is Shortening Every certain time  somebody know  what can I do?
[02:09] <duckwars> i just made
[02:09] <duckwars> thanks guys
[02:09] <duckwars> very helpful
[02:09] <lomez> i use gnome, how can i map control-alt-delete to launch the gnome-control center?
[02:09] <lomez> metacity?
[02:10] <eeeuser133> ah fuck
[02:10] <eeeuser133> ups
[02:10] <VCoolio> lomez: add it to system > prefs > keyboard shortcuts
[02:10] <duckwars> i put in duckwars=`ssh duckwars@10.0.1.10` to .bashrc and it didn't seem  to work....
[02:10] <Guest60466> I have a netbook running Ubuntu. Whenever I plug in this external (USB) hard drive, my computer does an instant hard shutdown. What could be wrong?
[02:10] <xFlux> duckwars:  You have to exit and restart your bash session for it to take effect
[02:11] <lomez> VCoolio, how do i do that? i went in there but couldnt figure out how to map programs to keyboard cuts
[02:11] <xFlux> duckwars:  .bashrc is read on initial session creation, not post
[02:11] <duckwars> sooo. i can't just close and restart terminal, I have to restart the computer?
[02:11] <xFlux> no
[02:11] <xFlux> type
[02:12] <xFlux> export duckwars=`ssh duckwars@1.1.1.1`
[02:12] <magical_walrus> chauncellor: how exactly would I turn swap on/off, again?
[02:12] <xFlux> swapon
[02:12] <xFlux> swapoff :)
[02:12] <VCoolio> lomez: click the add button
[02:12] <xFlux> just not in a circular motion
[02:12] <lomez> ty VCoolio
[02:12] <magical_walrus> xFlux: But, where?
[02:12] <xFlux> and the shell
[02:12] <chauncellor> magical_walrus, in GParted, just right click on the swap partition and click "swapon"
[02:12] <xFlux> *at the shell
[02:12] <magical_walrus> oh
[02:13] <xFlux> or you can take chauncellor's advice and never learn what that simple gui is doing! :)
[02:13] <chauncellor> magical_walrus, xFlux was talking about from the command line :)
[02:13] <duckwars> xFlux, I put in your format and still doesn't work... should I restart the computer?
[02:13] <duckwars> I just closed and reopened the terminal
[02:13] <magical_walrus> chauncellor: And once I'm in recovery mode how can I get to a Command line interface to run "repair X"
[02:13] <network___> Is there good gui compiler for linux other than gambas?
[02:13] <chauncellor> magical_walrus, it will be an option in recovery mode, no command line
[02:13] <DevilBass> help my  hdd  free space is Shortening Every certain time I think its a gnu/linux virus
[02:14] <edbian> DevilBass: Are you not filling it yourself?
[02:14] <chauncellor> magical_walrus, unless you want to, as xFlux says, "learn what that simple GUI is doing" :P
[02:14] <lomez> ok VCoolio there doesnt seem to be any option to add a new one in here
[02:14] <xFlux> duckwars:  It should def work.......If you type cd ~ you are in your current user's home directory.  If you edit .bashrc and add exactly what I wrote, save it, and restart bash it should work
[02:14] <edbian> DevilBass: Use the "disk usage analyzer" to find where these mystery files are :)
[02:14] <magical_walrus> chauncellor: But it won't look exactly like repair X, maybe something like repair xorg (try to fix graphical blah... blah)
[02:14] <chauncellor> yeah, that's it
[02:14] <magical_walrus> Oh
[02:14] <magical_walrus> I did that
[02:14] <xFlux> duckwars:  Other than that, I would recommend reading on google to see if bashrc even exists in the mac(which last time I checked on my macbook it did)
[02:15] <VCoolio> lomez: hm i've heard that before; then use gconf-editor to do it; let me find the entry
[02:15] <chauncellor> magical_walrus, good. This may or may not fix the issue. That's a broad thing that that problem could cover.
[02:15] <chauncellor> magical_walrus, do you have any surefire ways of replicating it?
[02:15] <lomez> ty VCoolio
[02:15] <magical_walrus> How can I create a swap partition with GParted? When I try to "create a new partition table", it warns about blitzing my entire device.
[02:16] <xcthulhu> Yeah!
[02:16] <xcthulhu> I got cryopid to compile again
[02:16] <magical_walrus> chauncellor: I cannot replicate the problem
[02:16] <VCoolio> lomez: in configuration editor in apps>metacity you can assign commands to keyboard shortcuts
[02:16] <chauncellor> magical_walrus, well, want to learn a little trick if that ever happens again? :)
[02:16] <magical_walrus> Of course
[02:16] <lomez> thanks VCoolio
[02:17] <mechtech> ok...where to look for shoutcast content (other than the playlist)
[02:17] <DevilBass> edbian : well i check  time to time the nautilus condition bar and i notice the free space reduction
[02:17] <chauncellor> magical_walrus, if you hold down <alt><SysRq> and then press "K", you will kill your session and go back to the login prompt
[02:17] <edbian> DevilBass: Are you installing software often?
[02:17] <Dr_Willis> mechtech:  the shoutcast homepage? or use streamtuner, or tunapie programs. perhaps.
[02:17] <magical_walrus> chauncellor: Thanks
[02:17] <magical_walrus> But
[02:17] <chauncellor> magical_walrus, there used to be a nifty <ctrl><alt><bckspce> shortcut, but they shut that off by default now
[02:18] <chauncellor> magical_walrus, those commands are just in case it freezes up and you need to start over without having to boot everything up again
[02:18] <sebsebseb> !dontzp
[02:18] <sebsebseb> !dontzap
[02:18] <chauncellor> yeah, but you have to install a package
[02:18] <magical_walrus> chauncellor: When I have read about this problem, people said the system is 100% hosed, and a restart will only fix it (temporarily)
[02:18] <chauncellor> magical_walrus, ouch.... only time that it hasn't worked is when NVidia's piss-poor drivers locked the entire system up
[02:19] <magical_walrus> chauncellor: Kind of like ATI's piss-poor drivers? D:
[02:19] <DevilBass> edbian: no i notice the reduccion when  I needed to copy some mp3 file to my hdd
[02:19] <chauncellor> magical_walrus, yeah, kinda :)
[02:19] <edbian> DevilBass: You should look at "Disk Usage Analyzer"
[02:20] <magical_walrus> How can I create a swap partition with GParted? When I try to "create a new partition table", it warns about blitzing my entire device.
[02:20] <edbian> DevilBass: Try: "sudo apt-get clean" to clear out apt-get's old packages (it caches them)
[02:21] <DevilBass> edbian: I check my disk only whit FSCK command
[02:21] <edbian> DevilBass: Well that's good for finding errors...
[02:21] <lslpp> OT: what does this sentence mean: "I wonder what the reasoning behind that was" ... how would you say that with different words?
[02:22] <jethro> is there a way to sync the calendar that comes with ubuntu with my google calendar?
[02:23] <DevilBass> edbian: i have open the nautilus and it show me the reduccion free space every 20 seconds more less
[02:23] <Dr_Willis> jethro:  theres google applets tools  you can install.. perhaps those can do it.
[02:23] <magical_walrus> How can I create a swap partition with GParted? When I try to "create a new partition table", it warns about blitzing my entire device.
[02:23] <danbhfive> lslpp: I wonder why so-and-so made some decision
[02:23] <Dr_Willis> lslpp:  'what was he thinking'
[02:24] <chauncellor> jethro, yes, there is! There's an option in Evolution that will sync it with google!
[02:24] <Dr_Willis> magical_walrus:  you resize/shrink the other partitiosn.. make a new one.. set its type to be swap.
[02:24] <jethro> dr_willis a google applet for gnome?
[02:24] <lslpp> danbhfive, Dr_Willis ... thank you
[02:24] <danbhfive> magical_walrus: make a new partition, not a new partition table
[02:24] <Dr_Willis> jethro:  yes. google widgets or whatever they are called work on linux.
[02:24] <edbian> DevilBass: I don't know what you want me to tell you.  I think you should use the disk-usage-analyzer to figure out what files are filling the disk
[02:24] <jethro> dr_willis how do i install them?
[02:24] <Dr_Willis> jethro:  i think they are in the medibuntu repos.
[02:25] <jethro> chauncellor i am using thunderbird currently but could change to evolution for this
[02:25] <chauncellor> jethro, there might be a thunderbird addon...
[02:25] <Dr_Willis> jethro:  a google search for 'google gadgets ubuntu' --> http://helpforlinux.blogspot.com/2009/06/install-google-gadgets-in-ubuntu-904.html
[02:26] <dassouki> i was wondering why can't i install the package ,, although i'm following https://launchpad.net/~qgis/+archive/unstable
[02:26] <Dr_Willis> sudo apt-get install google-gadgets-gtk
[02:26] <chauncellor> jethro, a quick google search just brought up some stuff about integrating google calendar into Thunderbird. it's possible :)
[02:26] <Dr_Willis> To the Bat-Google!
[02:26] <chauncellor> Holy google, Batman!
[02:27] <jethro> dr_willis and chauncellor thank you
[02:27] <xcv> th0r: that's part of the problem... can't remember the name of the app... it was a httpd or perhaps a ftpd
[02:27] <chauncellor> jethro, no problem-o
[02:28] <sh4d0wz> Question: Whats a terminal apt-get command for a good isoburner besides k3b
[02:29] <magical_walrus> I resized a parition and created 2.5GB of unallocated space. How can I create a logical partition for swap space out of this with GParted?
[02:29] <sh4d0wz> Question: Whats a terminal apt-get command for a good isoburner besides k3b
[02:29] <Dr_Willis> magical_walrus:  a 2.5gb is a bit large..  you can have 4 parimarie partitions maximum. so it depends on what else you got.
[02:29] <Dr_Willis> magical_walrus:  swap partition can be logical or primary - make a new partition. set its type to swap.
[02:30] <Dr_Willis> magical_walrus:  its same as making any other partition with a normal filesystem. you just set the type to be the special type of 'swap'
[02:30] <Dr_Willis> magical_walrus:  you COULD make/use a swap file if you really wanted to.
[02:30] <Blehk> For cron, if I have minutes set up as */30 would that be every two minutes?
[02:30] <rww> .google test
[02:30] <Mystic> http://www.test.com/ (Test.com Web Based Testing and Certification Software v2.0)
[02:30] <medhat> hi
[02:30] <sh4d0wz> Question: Whats a terminal apt-get command for a good isoburner besides k3b
[02:30] <sh4d0wz> Question: Whats a terminal apt-get command for a good isoburner besides k3b
[02:30] <sh4d0wz> Question: Whats a terminal apt-get command for a good isoburner besides k3b
[02:30] <FloodBot3> sh4d0wz: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:31] <magical_walrus> Dr_willis: Ok, but I already have 4 primary paritions. When I click 'new' it says I cannot make another primary one, but I dont want to make a primary partition.
[02:31] <dassouki> i was wondering why can't i install the package ,, although i'm following https://launchpad.net/~qgis/+archive/unstable
[02:31] <chauncellor> sh4d0wz, brasero is a good one
[02:31] <chauncellor> sh4d0wz, sudo apt-get install brasero
[02:31] <sh4d0wz> Ok
[02:31] <kitche> sh4d0wz: or you just just use the cdrtools
[02:31] <Dr_Willis> magical_walrus:  if you want more then 4 partitions. one primary must be a extended partition. the extended will hold the 'logical' partitions.
[02:32] <magical_walrus> Ok
[02:32] <magical_walrus> Thanks
[02:32] <Dr_Willis> magical_walrus:  You could delete one primary and make it a extended . but that will lose all data in it.
[02:32] <Dr_Willis> magical_walrus:  it may be easier to just use a swap file.
[02:33] <Xodiac13> i just installed wine and wine doors and for some reason it is not in the applications menu i just installed project64 is there anyway i can get it in the meny
[02:33] <magical_walrus> Dr_willis: I'll just try to use Partition magic on windoze. It will let me make more than 4 partitions
[02:34] <xcv> trying to locate a server app i installed within the last few months. i can't find it... and i am asking for help with ideas on how search for it or what logs to check. please? i don't recall the name of the app. is there history log for apt-get install?
[02:34] <danbhfive> magical_walrus: the 4 primary partition limit doesnt matter whether you use magic or gparted
[02:34] <ozatomic> when i try and grep over a file and search for a directory path it doesn't work properly  grep "/var/mydir/" /proc/mounts     everytime no matter if the text si there or not it returns all the text as if tis use regex or something and not as a plain string
[02:34] <Dr_Willis> magical_walrus:  err.. no it wont..
[02:34] <Dr_Willis> magical_walrus:  4 parimaries is a limiation thats been in existantce for years...
[02:34] <Xodiac13> i just installed wine and wine doors and for some reason it is not in the applications menu i just installed project64 is there anyway i can get it in the meny
[02:35] <magical_walrus> Dr_willis: Oh, sorry. I guess I saw mistaken. I haven't used PM for a while
[02:35] <Frank83> Greetings guys. Is there a way to stop Ubuntu (9.04) using the PC Speakers for "Error" sounds? (Like pressing "Delete" in an empty line)
[02:36] <th0r> Frank83: edit the Sounds preferences
[02:36] <Dr_Willis> magical_walrus:  most windows apps wont let you make more then 1 primary partition anyway.  windows has had issues in the past with mor ethen 1 primary
[02:36] <magical_walrus> I see
[02:37] <julytwentyeight_> which is more stable kde or gnome?
[02:37] <funkywds> gnome
[02:37] <chauncellor> julytwentyeight_, milage may vary.
[02:37] <funkywds> and much easier to use
[02:37] <chauncellor> julytwentyeight_, I much prefer Gnome. A lot of others love KDE and hate Gnome
[02:38] <Frank83> th0r I can't find an option there for the internal PC speakers.
[02:38] <th0r> Frank83: System-Preferences-Sound
[02:38] <GodfatherofEire> Am I imagining things or was there a way to create a customized ubuntu live CD a while back?
[02:38] <dewc> Frank83: you can also stop the module pcspkr from loading
[02:38] <GodfatherofEire> Like, without it being a PITA
[02:38] <Frank83> Th0r There I am. "Sounds" tab.
[02:38] <julytwentyeight_> thanks for  opinions
[02:39] <xcv> julytwentyeight_, personal preference. try both if you can and then decide which you want to use. #dontchyawishwindowswouldallowthat
[02:39] <th0r> Frank83: if you want to change the device that plays the sounds...that is done on the Devices tab
[02:39] <Frank83> Dewc The module sounds interesting.
[02:39] <th0r> Frank83: if you just want to turn them off do it on the Sounds tab
[02:39] <julytwentyeight_> That's what Il have to do.
[02:40] <chauncellor> julytwentyeight_, try out WUBI if you are using Windows
[02:40] <dewc> Frank83: try what th0r is suggesting, if that doesnt do what you want, let me know.
[02:40] <julytwentyeight_> Il have to get over the iritatating learning curve, but wait, its linux :)
[02:40] <Xodiac13> i just installed wine and wine doors and for some reason it is not in the applications menu i just installed project64 is there anyway i can get it in the meny
[02:40] <julytwentyeight_> Im running on ubuntu
[02:40] <th0r> Frank83: if you want to turn them off just uncheck the Play alerts and sound effects box....
[02:40] <julytwentyeight_> Using gnome now.
[02:40] <Xodiac13> !wine
[02:40] <chauncellor> julytwentyeight_, oh, sorry. I just assumed you were a Windows user :) My fault
[02:41] <julytwentyeight_> That's offensive. Lol
[02:41] <chauncellor> julytwentyeight_, why is it offensive? It's helpful!
[02:41] <julytwentyeight_> I was joking.
[02:41] <xcv> help please: where to find history log for apt-get install?
[02:41] <nmatrix9> this channel is huge
[02:41] <chauncellor> julytwentyeight_, yeah, sorry, got that right after I hit enter :/
[02:41] <julytwentyeight_> I have a slow internet so I was contemplating installing kde. For hughesnet thats a big download
[02:42] <nmatrix9> any stunnel users in here?
[02:42] <chauncellor> julytwentyeight_, yeah, I have dial up at home... I'm housesitting right now, so I have a blazing fast one right now!
[02:42] <th0r> xcv: to my knowledge there is no such thing. If you can't remember what you did, you will have a hard time undoing it
[02:42] <bucky> GodfatherofEire: apt-cache show live-magic   apt-cache show uck
[02:42] <Xodiac13> !wine
[02:42] <Frank83> th0r: I think we are misunderstood. I didn't explain myself correctly. My system plays sounds just fine using the Motherboard integrated sound card. It's set up on ALSA because I modified the system from loading "PulseAudio". The system plays the system sounds normally, that is not the issue. The thing is that sometimes it uses the internal PC speakers for some "Error" sounds instead of using the Integrated sound card.
[02:42] <GodfatherofEire> bucky, that apply to xubuntu as well?
[02:42] <Xodiac13> i just installed wine and wine doors and for some reason it is not in the applications menu i just installed project64 is there anyway i can get it in the meny
[02:42] <julytwentyeight_> kewlbeans. I cant wait for fiberoptic
[02:42] <bucky> GodfatherofEire: of course
[02:43] <GodfatherofEire> bucky, good
[02:43] <GodfatherofEire> quick question though
[02:43] <bucky> GodfatherofEire: did you try those commands?
[02:43] <xcv> th0r, thanks. are daemons logged somewhere? i didn't find anything useful in system logs, but i didn't dive deep in some of the chatty logs
[02:43] <VCoolio> Frank83: there is a sound option for errors in 'power management' you can disable
[02:43] <GodfatherofEire> not yet, I just didnt remember what they were or if they existed at all
[02:43] <sh4d0wz> Question: Why when I try to burn disc using gnome baker i get this? :-( /dev/sr0: media is not recognized as recordable DVD: 0
[02:43] <mumblee> I am having a really difficult time getting my mouse to work in ubuntu jaunty. I have blueman installed but it doesnt seem to do anything.
[02:43] <th0r> Frank83: yeah...check the Sound events on the devices tab. I think if you change that you might solve your problems
[02:44] <th0r> Frank83: sometime 'autodetect' isn't quite right
[02:44] <mechtech> sh4d0wz: DVD+R or DVD-R?
[02:44] <b33r> Hello I'm trying to install nvidia latest drivers from nvidia website on ubuntu 8.10 after I finish installing and try to start x I get this error (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module
[02:44] <sh4d0wz> dvd-r
[02:44] <sh4d0wz> should I choose option burn idc
[02:44] <sh4d0wz> disc*
[02:44] <sh4d0wz> or the image one
[02:44] <dewc> Frank83: are you talking about the beep that it makes if you, say hit delete when there's nothing to delete?
[02:44] <chauncellor> b33r, did you do a manual install, or a ppa install?
[02:44] <colloguy> in sleep.sh, why do they do "[ x$ACPI_SLEEP != xtrue ]" as opposed to "[ $ACPI_SLEEP != true ]" ? What's the point of sticking 'x' in front of everything?
[02:45] <yeahuyean> hi, has anyone else noticed that jaunty is kinda slow?
[02:45] <Frank83> Th0r. Yep. That was it. The "Play Alert Sound" makes the funny PC speaker sound.
[02:45] <b33r> chauncellor, manual install
[02:45] <sh4d0wz> jaunty = fine for me
[02:45] <th0r> xcv: each daemon is logged in /var/log/messages at startup, and I think in dmesg also. You can also see what daemons are running with ps ax
[02:45] <Xodiac13> i need some help i just installed wine and wine doors but its not showing up in the applications menu
[02:45] <Frank83> dewc. Yes, That was the sound.
[02:45] <chauncellor> b33r, which package did you use? Did you use the one with 0, 1, or 2 at the end?
[02:45] <mechtech> sh4d0wz: burn image is for putting an ISO onto a disk, so choose that if that's what you're doing
[02:46] <GodfatherofEire> bucky, can it remove stuff from the distro too?
[02:46] <Frank83> Thanks for the help guys!
[02:46] <dewc> Frank83: ok. if you found your solution, I will save mine :)
[02:46] <sh4d0wz> im tryna burn windows xp sp3 iso
[02:46] <sh4d0wz> so do that?
[02:46] <th0r> but Frank83 how will you know now when you make a mistake!
[02:46] <GodfatherofEire> I just need to make a nice, lightweight live CD with diagnostic tools
[02:46] <pw-toxic> hi, i have set up my ubuntu (desktop version) as a NAT, fileserver, dhcp and DNS server... now i want to do some port forwarding, and im looking for an interface like ip cop... or anything simliar
[02:46] <mechtech> sh4d0wz: yes
[02:46] <b33r> chauncellor, you mean like that pkg2.run ?? what does that mean?
[02:46] <sh4d0wz> YAY
[02:46] <sh4d0wz> fuck ubuntu!
[02:46] <sh4d0wz> im going back to windowz!
[02:46] <pw-toxic> i have full access to this pc.. with desktop environment
[02:47] <chauncellor> sh4d0wz, great, please leave, then
[02:47] <sh4d0wz> :D
[02:47] <pw-toxic> sh4d0wz, have fun ;)
[02:47] <sh4d0wz> I dont have to if i dont want to!
[02:47] <Frank83> Th0r. Don't worry about it :-) My mistakes are easily noticeable since they always involve me completely messing up the Kernel. :-)
[02:47] <chauncellor> b33r, you should use the 0 package
[02:47] <zherkehzi> We don't want you anyway. Have fun getting viruses
[02:47] <xcv> th0r, thanks. i didn't install it as a daemon -- just invoked it once as a normal foreground process in a terminal window, and closed it with ctrl-c when done, still, it was a server -- hoping it left a 'trail' somewhere
[02:47] <sh4d0wz> I STAY IN HERE ALL DAY FOOl
[02:47] <chauncellor> sh4d0wz, until you're kicked
[02:47] <b33r> chauncellor, what's the difference? what does the numbers stand for?
[02:47] <sh4d0wz> Nah if your smart enough you can prevent getting viruses
[02:47] <th0r> Frank83: every Python-ite knows you need 'the machine that goes 'beep'
[02:47] <Xodiac13> THANKS FOR THE HELP APPRECIATE IT
[02:47] <sh4d0wz> linux= for scary paranoid nubs
[02:47] <sh4d0wz> LOOOOOOOOOOl
[02:47] <chauncellor> b33r, I'm not sure, but 0 is the one recommended for compatibility reasons, I believe
[02:47] <sh4d0wz> Im out
[02:47] <sh4d0wz> piece
[02:47] <pw-toxic> sh4d0wz, on ubuntu you dont need to be smart if you dont want to get any virus ;)
[02:48] <zherkehzi> If your smart enough you can keep yourself from getting the flu.
[02:48] <chauncellor> b33r, I always use the 0
[02:48] <zherkehzi> (sarcasam)
[02:48] <tony_> I have an ATI 9200 pro, dual monitors, can anyone help me enable compiz/desktop effects? thanks
[02:48] <al_x_> is this place for discussion of 9.04 only?
[02:48] <GodfatherofEire> bucky, can it remove stuff too? I just need to make a nice, lightweight live CD with diagnostic tools
[02:48] <Frank83> th0r, You've got a point there.
[02:48] <GodfatherofEire> al_x_ not at all, previous distros accepted too
[02:48] <al_x_> i want to know if i should install karmic or wait a few weeks/months
[02:48] <pw-toxic> al_x, this channel is named #ubuntu .. so i suppose its for all ubuntu related questions ;)
[02:49] <b33r> chauncellor, nvidia website gives me the link to package2 when I choose my card
[02:49] <yeahuyean> does anyone know of a way to change the text of my gnome bar menus?
[02:49] <danbhfive> al_x_: wait, wait till it is released
[02:49] <dave__> need help setting up a dial-up connection for a friend...
[02:49] <yeahuyean> the color of the text i mean
[02:49] <funkywds> al_x_: well, karmic is alpha, so if you're comfortable with that...
[02:49] <chauncellor> b33r, oh, maybe you should listen to them instead... :D
[02:49] <Xodiac13> can i please get some help serioulsy or am i going to get ignored the whole time dang
[02:49] <Frank83> al_x, you might want to stick with the stable release for a bit.
[02:49] <tony_> Can someone help me configure my ati card for dual monitors + compiz?
[02:49] <b33r> chauncellor, lol...
[02:49] <funkywds> Xodiac13: what's you question
[02:50] <mechtech> Xodiac13: what's up?
[02:50] <chauncellor> b33r, did you remove all nvidia modules before the manual install?
[02:50] <casey> who know how to us mysql?
[02:51] <dave__> I have gnome.ppp on my pc, and my thumb drive... how do I get it on his laptop
[02:51] <Xodiac13> funkywds: sorry i just installed and it didnt show up in the menu i looked in applications and it wasnt there the last time i installed it it was in the menu and now its gone i tried looking at the edit menu option and still not there
[02:51] <bucky> GodfatherofEire: did you try those commands?
[02:51] <b33r> chauncellor, I just deactivated the old driver
[02:51] <GodfatherofEire> bucky, not yet, but I need to know if it can remove things from the disc image as well
[02:51] <funkywds> Xodiac13: wine and wine doors?
[02:51] <chauncellor> b33r, you should go to synaptic, search "nvidia", and remove all the modules, then install the package again through the oh-so-painful process
[02:51] <bucky> GodfatherofEire: of course
[02:51] <Xodiac13> funkywds: yes
[02:52] <funkywds> Xodiac13: oh, sry guy, i don't have experience with wine.  never needed it, since i'm coming from the mac side of things
[02:52] <bucky> GodfatherofEire: do you have jaunty installed?
[02:52] <al_x_> is anyone here using karmic yet?
[02:52] <al_x_> i usually wait for betas
[02:52] <Xodiac13> funkywds: do you know anyone that does and that can help me i appreciate you trying to help man
[02:52] <tony_> Can someone please help me with my ati card and dual monitors? thanks.
[02:52] <mechtech> Xodiac13: have you rebooted?
[02:52] <al_x_> i was just wondering if there's any killer new features
[02:53] <GodfatherofEire> bucky, yeah, but my copy is disconnected from the network atm
[02:53] <GodfatherofEire> refusin to connect to the WPA2 network I have here
[02:53] <Xodiac13> mechtech: yes and i also reinstalled it not unless i need to reboot again
[02:53] <Frank83> Xodiac13: Your problem is Wine related?
[02:53] <chauncellor> dave__, you still there?
[02:53] <bucky> GodfatherofEire: you know there's a ton of lightweight live cd distros out there.. most notably wolvix
[02:53] <mechtech> Xodiac13: prolly not, but yet worth a try
[02:53] <Xodiac13> Frank83: i installed it and its not in the menu i reinstalled it and also reboot my computer
[02:53] <Pici> al_x_: Karmic discussion can be found in #ubuntu+1, #ubuntu is for current releases only.
[02:54] <chauncellor> damn
[02:54] <GodfatherofEire> bucky: I was originally gonna do an LFS with the LUK or CoLinux, but I decided against that
[02:54] <mechtech> Xodiac13: /join #wine
[02:54] <Xodiac13> mechtech: when i installed it the first time i rebooted and then it still wasnt there and so i reinstalled and its still not there
[02:54] <mechtech> just join the wine room
[02:54] <DaZ> mechtech, winehq
[02:55] <mechtech> try them...I had to
[02:55] <Frank83> Xodiac13: You can check if it is installed by typing "wine uninstaller" in terminal. About the Menu, have you checked in System - Preferences - Main menu?
[02:55] <mechtech> sorry...see daz's post to me...winehq
[02:55] <Xodiac13> Frank83: yes but i will check again and i typed in wine-doors and that works
[02:56] <mechtech> !wine | Xodiac13
[02:56] <GodfatherofEire> ok, pardon me if I'm making an idiots suggestion, but Xodiac13, have you ran alacarte and seen if it might just not have been enabled in there?
[02:56] <GodfatherofEire> 'cause I dont know WINE too well, so, I'm just taking a shot in the dark
[02:56] <DaZ> !virtualizers
[02:57] <Xodiac13> GodfatherofEire: uh alacarte no
[02:57] <GodfatherofEire> well, alacarte is the command, Menu Editor is what its called under prefs
[02:57] <mechtech> Xodiac13: why not join the wine room?  /join #winehq
[02:57] <Frank83> GodfatherofEire, sometimes the idiot suggestions, aren't stupid at all.
[02:58] <Xodiac13> GodfatherofEire: uh o okay yeah i even checked the menu editor
[02:58] <GodfatherofEire> tried gconfeditor?
[02:58] <mechtech> you can lead a horse to water
[02:58] <chauncellor> Anyone else hate it when people start ranting on about how they hate Ubuntu or any other distro?
[02:58] <Phantal1> If a cron job is setup to run every minute and the previous cron job took a lot longer than usual, will it blindly try to continue running more instances of the job, or wait until the previous instance completes?
[02:59] <th0r> GodfatherofEire: I wouldn't put too much stock in alacarte...it doesn't work very well
[02:59] <GodfatherofEire> only distro i cant stand is a broken one
[02:59] <Dr_Willis> chauncellor:  people always rant.. its easier then actually learning the tools..
[02:59] <````bulldogg> chauncellor, I have tried a lot of them... don't hate any.. but do like some better than others
[02:59] <Frank83> Wow Donald Shimoda. Someone has been reading Richard Bach
[03:00] <GodfatherofEire> th0r, yeah, why I was thinkin maybe check gconfeditor, or just unhide the folders in the home directory
[03:00] <chauncellor> No, it's not that if it doesn't work, it's that they come in and expect everything to suit their needs. If it doesn't work for them, I'm sorry, use Windows, but please respect the hard work that's been put into all this!
[03:00] <Godzuki> hello.
[03:00] <GodfatherofEire> Also, one thing I noticed, couldnt wine act as a sort of forkbomb, seeing as how the path to the ~/.wine folder is, how do you say.... recursive?
[03:00] <axisys> I tried to sudo cat /dev/cdrw > movie.iso I am getting I/O error.. what could be the reason >
[03:01] <Zxcvb> are there any known issues with a tickless kernel?
[03:01] <mechtech> looks like Xodiac quit rather than try winehq
[03:01] <funkywds> Godzuki: hello
[03:01] <````bulldogg> does anyone know how to view a m4v file in ubuntu?
[03:01] <Frank83> Chauncellor, I do understand what you mean. Sometimes it's just lack of patience.
[03:01] <mechtech> *shakes head*
[03:01] <Godzuki> trying to get WG111T wifi usb to work in jaunty.
[03:01] <th0r> chauncellor: I don't want it to work as good as windows. This is my geek escape...my haven away from the marching morons...and I want it to stay that way
[03:01] <GodfatherofEire> Like, put an exe in there that runs itself which would then in theory cause the system to run out of memory?
[03:01] <mumblee> how can i turn my bluetooth on?
[03:01] <chauncellor> th0r, But I do :)
[03:01] <chauncellor> th0r, I think of Ubuntu as the next Firefox
[03:02] <tony_> Can anyone please help me setup my ATI card properly?
[03:02] <chauncellor> The first time I booted up Ubuntu about three years ago, I was greeted with a broken display manager :)
[03:03] <chauncellor> And now I've been running it with hardly any problems on multiple machines
[03:03] <th0r> chauncellor: the first time I booted up linux there wasn'
[03:03] <Frank83> Th0r, I'm just happy that Ubuntu released me from the shackles of Firewalling, Paranoid Virus Scanning and Mind breaking Disk defragment
[03:03] <````bulldogg> brb kernel update
[03:03] <th0r> t a display manager
[03:03] <GodfatherofEire> Is there any way to set the network manager to have independent wireless options for WPA and WPA2?
[03:03] <GodfatherofEire> Cause its being a real PITA right now, and is refusing to connect to my WPA2 network
[03:04] <th0r> GodfatherofEire: I ended up dumping networkmangler and installling wicd
[03:04] <GodfatherofEire> never heard of it
[03:04] <th0r> GodfatherofEire: it isn't quite as polished as network mangler, but it works
[03:04] <th0r> GodfatherofEire: even does static ip
[03:04] <tony_> Can someone help me configure my ati card for dual monitors + compiz?
[03:05] <chauncellor> I've never had a problem with Networkmanager, but I've heard lots of stories. Guess I'm lucky
[03:05] <Um_cara_qualquer> excuse me, i burned a cd audio project a few days ago and somehow, it didn't worked on the cd player of my car, what are the configurations to burn it right?
[03:05] <th0r> GodfatherofEire: but if you want to try it....let me know and I will pastebin something that will save yo usome headaches
[03:05] <Um_cara_qualquer> i used k3b
[03:05] <chauncellor> Um_cara_qualquer, are you sure your car can play burned CDs?
[03:05] <Um_cara_qualquer> yes
[03:05] <GodfatherofEire> th0r, does it allow for different connections to WPA and WPA2 networks, instead of just showing up as WPA/WPA2
[03:05] <GodfatherofEire> ?
[03:05] <mumblee> HOw can i find out what module i need to load for my bluetooth?
[03:05] <Um_cara_qualquer> all my cds are burned
[03:06] <sebsebseb> Um_cara_qualquer: K3B :)
[03:06] <Um_cara_qualquer> ;)
[03:06] <chauncellor> Um_cara_qualquer, hm, I'm not familiar with K3B as I don't use it, sorry
[03:06] <th0r> GodfatherofEire: haven't used it for that, don't believe in wpa. But it shows wpa1/2 so I don't think they are separate
[03:06] <Um_cara_qualquer> ok
[03:06] <Um_cara_qualquer> anyone else can help me?
[03:07] <th0r> GodfatherofEire: but it shows a separate entry for each network, if that is what you mean
[03:07] <sebsebseb> Um_cara_qualquer: an audio CD is an audio CD, it should just work as long as you burnt it as one, and  you got a CD player
[03:07] <th0r> sebsebseb: not quite....a lot of car stereos are picky about CD-R and CD+R
[03:07] <chauncellor> Um_cara_qualquer, does the cd work anywhere else?
[03:07] <GodfatherofEire> th0r, thats the problem, the modem/router is set up to /only/ use WPA2 connections, not either or, and Ubuntu keeps reading and sending authentication for an interchangable network
[03:07] <Um_cara_qualquer> what do u mean by burnt it as one
[03:08] <joseph> Use infrarecorder.
[03:08] <chauncellor> th0r, right, my sister's car is really picky
[03:08] <Um_cara_qualquer> didn't tried it anywhere else
[03:08] <sebsebseb> th0r: that makes sense, to make sure people buy proper CD's
[03:08] <GodfatherofEire> waaaaiit.... my router allows for a guest network
[03:08]  * GodfatherofEire proceeds to headdesk
[03:08] <Lucifer_Cat> how do i delete the home directory of a deleted user?
[03:08] <sebsebseb> Um_cara_qualquer: look at what  th0r put
[03:08] <chauncellor> Lucifer_Cat, command line or graphical?
[03:09] <Lucifer_Cat> chauncellor: on command line it told me permission denied.
[03:09] <bruenig> Lucifer_Cat: rm -rf /home/directory/of/deleted/user
[03:09] <Lucifer_Cat> wait. sudo. lemme try sudo.
[03:09] <Lucifer_Cat> alright thanks bruenig
[03:09] <chauncellor> Lucifer_Cat, you're going to have to put -R after rm. so it'll be "sudo rm -R FOLDER"
[03:09] <null> Question:  Does the ubuntu install CD offer full hard drive encryption on installation?  using dm-crypt?
[03:10] <Lucifer_Cat> ok, R or rf?
[03:10] <chauncellor> either
[03:10] <Um_cara_qualquer> so...should i buy cds instead try to use ubuntu's programs?!
[03:10] <chauncellor> Um_cara_qualquer, if it makes you that much more legal, yes ;)
[03:11] <Lucifer_Cat> ok got it. thanks chauncellor and bruenig
[03:11] <chauncellor> *is not a fan of pirated music*
[03:11] <Um_cara_qualquer> humm... and if i don't wanna make it legal?
[03:11] <Godzuki> Need some help with ndiswrapper.
[03:11] <bruenig> chauncellor: protip, it sounds the same
[03:11] <th0r> chauncellor: then I won't tell  you about 'streamripper'
[03:11] <funkywds> chauncellor: pirated music is music
[03:11] <libtech> aaargh
[03:12] <bruenig> sebsebseb: hi
[03:12] <Godzuki> sudo modprobe ndiswrapper says FATAL: module ndiswrapper not found.
[03:12] <unixxx> Hey guys, anyone know wheter I should be using /dev/md_d0 or /dev/md/d0 as the device for my RAID array?
[03:12] <Godzuki> even after its been installed by synaptic.
[03:12] <chauncellor> funkywds, ROMs are games. So what's your point? :)
[03:12] <sebsebseb> bruenig: hi
[03:12] <bruenig> sebsebseb: hi
[03:12] <funkywds> chauncellor: point?  who said i had a point?
[03:13] <chauncellor> funkywds, forgive me, I thought you were trying to make one. I guess you were just writing nonsense into the textbar
[03:13] <libtech> burn
[03:13] <Frank83> This debate is getting interesting-er by the second.
[03:13] <funkywds> chauncellor: what, like pirated music sounds different?  it's not like the difference between butter and margarine
[03:13] <funkywds> chauncellor: and there's no need to be rude
[03:13] <libtech> i cant believe its not butter
[03:13] <th0r> Godzuki: try 'sudo depmod -a' then try the modprobe again
[03:14] <joeZiehmer> Is it good to use Ubuntu 8.04 on an old iMac 500?
[03:14] <chauncellor> funkywds, you're comparing mp3s and cds. You can get both legally and illegally, just like your types of cooking materials
[03:14] <Godzuki> th0r: same thing.
[03:14] <unixxx> I'm not sure whether /dev/md_d0 is symlinked to /dev/md/d0 or vice verse.
[03:14] <funkywds> chauncellor: and if you want meandering nonsense, i suggest you listen to sarah palin's quitter speach/rant
[03:14] <joeZiehmer> The reason why is I'm using an old iMac 500
[03:14] <funkywds> chauncellor: i'm not comparing media, i'm comparing pirated vs non-pirated
[03:15] <chauncellor> funkywds, non-sequitur, I'm not interested in politics,
[03:15] <th0r> Godzuki: I would try uninstalling ndiswrapper and then reinstalling it
[03:15] <funkywds> chauncellor: your interest is not what defines a non-sequiter
[03:15] <Godzuki> th0r: how would I do that?
[03:15] <bruenig> !offtopic | funkywds
[03:15] <funkywds> oh, you're kidding
[03:15] <chauncellor> funkywds, you're comparing brands of items. It doesn't come close to comparing legality.
[03:15] <th0r> Godzuki: in synpatic, just mark it for uninstall then click apply, then mark it for install and click apply again
[03:16] <funkywds> chauncellor: it's called a metaphore
[03:16] <libtech> i think you guys might be off topic?
[03:16] <bruenig> !patience | funkywds
[03:16] <Frank83> Chauncellor, I sense you're a law student?
[03:16] <chauncellor> funkywds, No, I believe it's called a metaphor, I don't quite know what a metaphore is
[03:16] <chauncellor> Frank83, no, I'm just a humble musician
[03:16] <libtech> wow gai
[03:16] <bruenig> !ohmy | libtech
[03:17] <Frank83> Chauncellor, That was my second guess.
[03:17] <rww> funkywds, chauncellor: how about you both take the offtopicness (with the exception of the politics) to #ubuntu-offtopic or private message, please.
[03:17] <libtech> !lolwut
[03:17] <funkywds> chauncellor: the legalilty of music does not effect it's sound, quality, or any other aspect but the legality of it
[03:17] <zherkehzi> !what's up?
[03:17] <bruenig> !offtopic | funkywds
[03:17] <funkywds> chauncellor: that was my point, which you missed fantastically
[03:17] <libtech> funkywds: thats pretty obvious, /debate
[03:17] <chauncellor> funkywds, precisely why your butter/margarine made no since. The legality of it does not affect the ingredients or composition
[03:18] <chauncellor> libtech, right
[03:18] <chauncellor> funkywds, I'm sorry
[03:18] <Godzuki> th0r: i reinstalled, modprobe still pulls up FATAL
[03:18] <Frank83> Funkywds, I wouldn't debate about pirated music with a musician.
[03:18] <chauncellor> funkywds, let's just drop it.
[03:18] <someone1224> i get this error : ImportError: No module named wxPython.wx
[03:18] <funkywds> lets
[03:18] <bruenig> someone1224: you need the module names wxPython.wx
[03:18] <bruenig> named*
[03:18] <th0r> Godzuki: I wonder if it fails because you don't yet have any drivers installed?
[03:18] <libtech> chauncellor: you were right the first time, it is let's
[03:19] <th0r> Godzuki: I think it should load anyway, but not sure
[03:19]  * funkywds rolls eyes
[03:19] <chauncellor> libtech: I'm not following
[03:19] <Frank83> th0r, doesn't he needs to use ndiswrapper -i to check if there is a driver installed?
[03:19] <libtech> nevermind lol
[03:19] <chauncellor> libtech, sorry, I'm tired.
[03:19] <libtech> i had too much to drink
[03:19] <Godzuki> th0r: if I sudo ndiswrapper -i it lists them both as installed
[03:19] <libtech> later
[03:19] <Godzuki> th0r: with one having hardware as well.
[03:20] <th0r> Frank83: that was where I was headed...but no luck <smile>
[03:20] <zherkehzi> getting in an argument in a linux irc server.
[03:20] <chauncellor> libtech, oh, I'm not leaving, I'm just having a hard time with coherence :)
[03:20] <zherkehzi> rofl
[03:20] <bruenig> !offtopic | chauncellor
[03:20] <chauncellor> zherkehzi, is there any other use for it?
[03:20] <Skware> !stop | bruenig
[03:20] <Frank83> Thor, He he I understand. I had a couple of battles with ndiswrapper myself.
[03:20] <th0r> Godzuki: to 'ps ax | grep ndiswrapper' maybe it is already loaded
[03:20] <bruenig> oh no!
[03:21] <Raydiation> is there a way to tell the packagemanager to uninstall the package by just removing it from the apt db?
[03:21] <Raydiation> i cant remove one package because the uninstall script fails
[03:21] <Godzuki> th0r: 4902 pts/0     S+    0:00 grep ndiswrapper
[03:21] <someone1224> bruenig, >>> print sys.path
[03:21] <someone1224> ['', '/usr/local/lib/python26.zip', '/usr/local/lib/python2.6', '/usr/local/lib/python2.6/plat-linux2', '/usr/local/lib/python2.6/lib-tk', '/usr/local/lib/python2.6/lib-old', '/usr/local/lib/python2.6/lib-dynload', '/usr/local/lib/python2.6/site-packages']
[03:21] <bruenig> Raydiation: delete the uninstall script, it is located in /var
[03:21] <Raydiation> bruenig: ty
[03:22] <bruenig> Raydiation: do locate "*prerm" or some such, you should see the correct one
[03:22] <th0r> Godzuki: nope...not loaded yet if that is all you got
[03:22] <th0r> Godzuki: jeez...getting old...sorry. 'lsmod | grep ndiswrapper'
[03:22] <Raydiation> bruenig: does ubuntu automatically start updatedb?
[03:23] <Godzuki> th0r: it just typed it then made a new command line
[03:23] <Sergeant_Pony> on my laptop, I'm running 9.04, I have it check automatically for updates... it does not tell me there are updates unless I check manually. Can I fix this?
[03:24] <bruenig> Raydiation: in the cron
[03:24] <Raydiation> wow nice
[03:24] <Godzuki> th0r: it would just act like all i did was press enter
[03:24] <th0r> Godzuki: it should look like this....steve@mother:~$ lsmod | grep ndiswrapper
[03:24] <th0r> Godzuki: jeez...am I getting old! ndiswrapper           193436  0
[03:24] <th0r> Godzuki: ok...not installed yet.
[03:24] <th0r> Godzuki: or not loaded yet
[03:25] <Godzuki> th0r: okay, i thought it was.
[03:25] <jethro> when i try to open an .avi file with vlc it just disappears, why is this happening?
[03:25] <th0r> Godzuki: ok....do you have find-utils installed?
[03:26] <Godzuki> th0r: uh... I don't know.
[03:26] <th0r> Godzuki: try this....but I don't think it installs by default 'locate ndiswrapper | grep modules'
[03:27] <Godzuki> th0r: /lib/mod/2.6.28-11-generic/kernel/ubuntu/ndiswrapper  then it also has all of that plus /ndiswrapper.ko
[03:28] <dfkmas> Got problem with adobe flashplayer and firefox, i have installed last flashplayer with sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer, and the version is 10.something, but in firefox it shows something like "Shockwave flash version 9.0.999.0", whats the problem? i run ubuntu Jauty..
[03:28] <th0r> Godzuki: ok...now let's see if that matches your kernel....to
[03:28] <Godzuki> jethro: do you have all of the proper codecs?
[03:28] <jethro> whenever i try to open an .avi file the media player opens and then automatically closes,
[03:28] <th0r> Godzuki: do 'uname -a'
[03:28] <bruenig> jethro: try it with mplayer
[03:28] <th0r> Godzuki: and compare the kernel numbers with the /lib/mod
[03:28] <jethro> godzuki i downloaded the ones that were suggested when i tried to open
[03:29] <Frank83> dfkmas, Does Firefox play flash files without a problem?
[03:29] <Godzuki> jethro: try reinstalling them
[03:29] <Raydiation> bruenig: ty, file was called postrm though :)
[03:29] <jethro> is mplayer the totem player?
[03:29] <dfkmas> Frank83: no, it laggs as fuck, and some vdeos cant just play at all
[03:29] <someone1224> ['', '/usr/local/lib/python26.zip', '/usr/local/lib/python2.6', '/usr/local/lib/python2.6/plat-linux2', '/usr/local/lib/python2.6/lib-tk', '/usr/local/lib/python2.6/lib-old', '/usr/local/lib/python2.6/lib-dynload', '/usr/local/lib/python2.6/site-packages']
[03:30] <Frank83> dfkmas, You're running Ubuntu32 or Ubuntu 64=
[03:30] <Raydiation> jethro: totem an mplayer are 2 different players
[03:30] <dfkmas> Frank83: 64 :)
[03:30] <th0r> Godzuki: I suspect you are using kernel 28-13 or 28-14 and don't have the modules installed for that, or at least the ndiswrapper for that
[03:30] <Godzuki> th0r: linux alex-desktop 2.6.30-02063003-generic #02063003 SMP Sat Jul 25 10:57:13 UTC 2009 i686 Gnu/Linux
[03:30] <whimp> anyone here familiar with putty and ssh?
[03:30] <whimp> on ubuntu
[03:31] <Frank83> dfkmas, Well, There is a really easy way to make Flash10 work with Firefox under Ubu64.
[03:31] <dfkmas> Frank83: tell me about it
[03:31] <th0r> Godzuki: where did you get 2.6.30!? You are going to have to compile ndiswrapper for that kernel
[03:32] <Godzuki> th0r: um... i don't remember.
[03:32] <Frank83> dfkmas, You need to download the Flash10 from the Adobe Page, let me see if I can find the link.
[03:32] <th0r> what is the impetus for 2.6.30? I have seen a number of questions about compiling and installing it
[03:32] <Godzuki> th0r: i think it was a torrented version of ubuntu. so probably old.
[03:32] <dfkmas> Frank83: if i run sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer i will get same file as you trying to find..
[03:33] <Frank83> dfkmas, Then, just extract it in ~/.mozilla/plugins
[03:33] <dfkmas> its .deb files..
[03:33] <th0r> Godzuki: that isn't old...it is new...I don't think it is available for Jaunty
[03:33] <Frank83> dfkmas, The way I am telling you does not involve using a Deb or synaptic at all.
[03:33] <Godzuki> th0r: so I don't have jaunty?
[03:34] <th0r> Godzuki: are you by any chance running +1? Karmic?
[03:34] <dfkmas> Frank83: so which one do i need to download? tar.gz or .rpm?
[03:34] <Frank83> dfkmas, The file name is "libflashplayer-10.0.22.87.linux-x86_64.so.tar.gz"
[03:34] <Godzuki> th0r: I don't know what any of that is. This is my first install.
[03:34] <th0r> Godzuki: do 'lsb_release -a'
[03:34] <dfkmas> thanks, i will try that =)
[03:35] <Godzuki> th0r: ubuntu 9.04 (jaunty)
[03:35] <Zxcvb> th0r: two reasons, atheros wifi and analog support for wintv usb tuners
[03:35] <Godzuki> th0r: no lsb modules are available
[03:35] <th0r> Godzuki: I don't know how you ended up with 2.6.30, but that is the problem
[03:35] <Frank83> dfkmas, It contents a single file called libflashplayer.so, Which you will extract to ~/.mozilla/plugins
[03:35] <kub1> eth0 has stopped working on my desktop box. ifconfig eth0 says unkonwn interface.  kinfocenter shows no eth0 .  Network manager shows ¨new wired connection - never used¨ - any suggestions?? thx
[03:36] <Godzuki> th0r: was I not supposed to get that with jaunty?
[03:36] <dfkmas> Frank83: i will do that now, i'll be back with result..
[03:36] <sambagirl> how can i update my ubuntu  tio the latest version while online??
[03:36] <jet_> anyone know how to wipe a new mp3 playr of its junk?
[03:36] <Frank83> dfkmas, I don't know if having installed it via synaptic might have some impact on it. Try sudo apt-get remove
[03:36] <th0r> Godzuki: I don't think so, I just updated my repos and the latest version is 2.6.28-14
[03:37] <jethro> when i try to play xvid .avi files they just close as soon as then open. what could be causing this?
[03:37] <Numberjumbo> can someone help me with something?
[03:37] <th0r> Godzuki: did you download that torrent from ubuntu.com?
[03:37] <dfkmas> what was the name of the file which need to be copyed? libflashplaer.so?
[03:37] <jethro> i have tried vlc and mplayer to no avail
[03:37] <Frank83> dfkmas, Yes, If I am not wrong that's the only file inside the package
[03:37] <Godzuki> th0r: from here http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[03:38] <veggteppe_> Anyone that can explain to me what "Beryl" is?:P
[03:38] <dfkmas> Frank83: there is to files, which map did you said? .mozzila/extensions, right?
[03:38] <Numberjumbo> how do I install .tar.gz applications through terminal?
[03:38] <dfkmas> Frank83: there is two files, flashplayer-installer and livflashplayer.so
[03:38] <Estuardo> hello!!!
[03:39] <Frank83> dfkmas, ~/.mozilla/plugins
[03:39] <danbhfive> veggteppe_: beryl is gone, it merged with compiz to make compiz-fusion
[03:39] <Godzuki> th0r: ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso
[03:39] <Numberjumbo> anyone help please
[03:39] <Numberjumbo> emergency
[03:39] <veggteppe> danbhfive: Okay, so beryl and compiz is basicly the same? all rolled up into one?:)
[03:40] <Estuardo> some one can help me with amarok 2.2
[03:40] <danbhfive> veggteppe_: yeah, basically
[03:40] <th0r> Godzuki: I don't know what is going on there. My next suggestion is this...reboot and in the 3 seconds it gives you press ESC. That will take you to a boot menu where I hope you will find an earlier version of the kernel. Boot into that and see if you can load ndiswrapper
[03:40] <Numberjumbo> i reckon can someone help me with this
[03:40] <dfkmas> Frank83: same problem again, i will try to reinstall firefox and flashplugin
[03:40] <temporarytao> Numberjumbo, googled it for you: tar zxvf /home/yoyo/file.tar.gz
[03:40] <endtwist> I have a folder with permissions and files set to 775, and the owner set to www-data:www-data. I have a second user, rsync (group: www-data) also setup. When I try to chmod using the "rsync" user, I get "Operation not permitted" even though the group on the folder and files is correct.
[03:40] <endtwist> Is there a reason that would happen?
[03:41] <Numberjumbo> thanks, temporarytao
[03:41] <th0r> Numberjumbo: what are you trying to install? Everything installed in ubuntu is done through synaptic
[03:41] <Frank83> dfkmas, When I did that I hadn't installed flash via synaptic at all.
[03:41] <Numberjumbo> i bought a VPS, downloaded PuTTY, I have ubuntu 9.04 running on the VPS
[03:41] <temporarytao> Numberjumbo, that will just extract the files to some folder
[03:41] <Frank83> dfkmas, The issue might be caused because of a file installed by the deb package
[03:42] <Godzuki> th0r its letting me use .28
[03:42] <temporarytao> Numberjumbo, just read the readme file or something on how to actually install/run the program
[03:42] <th0r> Godzuki: bet that will work
[03:42] <donaldo> how to enable subwoofer toshiba laptop 4 harman kardon with subwoofer, realtek alc268, alsa 1.0.20? any idea?? help me please
[03:42] <yoophglup> I am getting an xdmcp error when I start the computer.  I think I need to edit the configuration file but I don't know what file it is
[03:42] <temporarytao> donaldo, use the pulseaudio device chooser
[03:43] <Godzuki> th0r: okay, so I have the terminal back up
[03:43] <jet_> what do i search for in add/remove to get virtual box.....
[03:43] <temporarytao> donaldo, if its not installed already, its prolly in "add/remove"
[03:43] <Godzuki> th0r: do i just do modprobe
[03:43] <th0r> Godzuki: yeah...sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[03:44] <donaldo> I have tried anything but the subwoofer is integrated.
[03:44] <jet_> i need the closed source version can someone walk me through installing it again?
[03:44] <Godzuki> th0r: all config files need .conf: etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper
[03:44] <danbhfive> jet_: go to the sun website, and get it there
[03:44] <th0r> Godzuki: well...at least it is finding it <smile>
[03:44] <Frozen-Solid> is there somewhere i can find a list of package versions that were released with a version of ubuntu?
[03:45] <Godzuki> th0r: yay upgrade.
[03:45] <th0r> Godzuki: might have to reinstall the drivers
[03:45] <jet_> danbhfive: thanks man i think i got it i answered my own question
[03:45] <danbhfive> Frozen-Solid: packages.ubuntu.com
[03:45] <temporarytao> donaldo, i'm thinking the pulseaudio app can help you with selecting your audio channel output. if you've not tried that yet, you should
[03:45] <felixsulla> Ugh, this is a stupid question but... how do I make a program start automatically?
[03:45] <jet_> however, is there any way besides using a usb jump drive to take music from say, a file on a virtual machine and copy it all to a linux folder?
[03:45] <th0r> Godzuki: I didn't even know 2.6.30 was generally available...thought they were still cooking it. Can't believe it is in the jaunty iso
[03:45] <temporarytao> felixsulla, you want to go to administration>sessions
[03:46] <donaldo> 	
[03:46] <donaldo> my English is very bad, but my language is not found anything helpful.
[03:46] <Frozen-Solid> danbhfive: is that the latest version of the packages for that edition, or the actual shipped with packages?
[03:46] <felixsulla> temporarytao: What if I dont have "Sessions"?
[03:46] <yoophglup> the error says "no servers were defined in the configuration file XDMCP was disabled. this can only be a configuration error. GDM has started a single server for you. you should log in and fix the configuration."
[03:46] <xeon_> Русскоговорящие есть?;)
[03:46] <temporarytao> felixsulla, what's your version?
[03:46] <felixsulla> 9.04
[03:46] <danbhfive> Frozen-Solid: did you look?  does it not make sense?
[03:47] <veggteppe_> One thing that has been bugging me, i can't seem to get the bloody ikons on the desktop small. Any ideas?:P
[03:47] <xeon_> hi all
[03:47] <Frozen-Solid> i'm looking right now, and no i'm confused
[03:47] <th0r> Godzuki: you can make that kernel your default. When you boot up, count the number of the line for that kernel (starting at the top as 0). Then in /boot/grub/menu.lst find the default line and change 0 to whatever (probably 2)
[03:47] <temporarytao> felixsulla, why is it not there? FYI, i can't explore very much for you. i'm on a #! box
[03:47] <felixsulla> temporarytao: Dont ask me. It is just not there.
[03:48] <danbhfive> Frozen-Solid: well, jaunty is the current release, hardy is LTS, and karmic is the next release
[03:48] <Godzuki> th0r: I have a blinky blue light!
[03:48] <Frank83> Temporarytao, I think there is a command line to call it up. Let me see if I can fish it for you.
[03:48] <donaldo> temporarytao: 	
[03:48] <donaldo> Once you try but do not work for me.
[03:49] <felixsulla> How do I add "Sessions" into Admin?
[03:49] <th0r> Godzuki: is that good?
[03:49] <temporarytao> felixsulla, that's actually system>preferrences>sessions
[03:49] <Frozen-Solid> danbhfive: i'm aware of that. i'm running Hardy server edition. i'm trying to find out what version of bind9 would be installed on it and i don't have physical access to the box at this very second
[03:49] <temporarytao> felixsulla, sorry 'bout that. bad short term memory
[03:49] <felixsulla> temporarytao: Ugh, its not there either
[03:49] <Godzuki> th0r: it means the usb thing is working now.
[03:49] <Frozen-Solid> i'd like to find this out before ig et to work tomorrow morning, so i know what i need to do to make sure we're good
[03:50] <Numberjumbo> hmmm
[03:50] <th0r> Godzuki: ok....sounds like you are in business
[03:50] <bmorris> Hi guys, I'm trying to set up my fstab to mount my files partition on boot.  I
[03:50] <Numberjumbo> i have seemed to have copied it, but it is saying access denied
[03:50] <Numberjumbo> how do i change permissions
[03:50] <Numberjumbo> chmodd
[03:50] <Numberjumbo> chmod
[03:50] <th0r> th0r basks in the glow of minor successes
[03:50] <FloodBot3> Numberjumbo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:50] <Numberjumbo> fffuu
[03:50] <danbhfive> Frozen-Solid: 1:9.4.2.dfsg.P2-2ubuntu0.1
[03:50] <felixsulla> Oh its now under "Startup Applications"
[03:50] <Frozen-Solid> okay so i'mr eadnig this right then. thanks danbhfive
[03:50] <Godzuki> th0r how do i set the boot kernel
[03:50] <danbhfive> np
[03:51] <bmorris> Hi guys, I'm trying to set up my fstab to mount my files partition on boot.  I've added this line to the fstab: "/dev/sda5 /home/bmorris/files vfat defaults" but the mounted partition is owned by root.  Is there any way that I can have it owned by my own user?
[03:51] <th0r> Godzuki: you must have missed it....Godzuki: you can make that kernel your default. When you boot up, count the number of the line for that kernel (starting at the top as 0). Then in /boot/grub/menu.lst find the default line and change 0 to whatever (probably 2)
[03:51] <Godzuki> th0r: it says permission denied
[03:51] <th0r> Godzuki: what says that?
[03:52] <Godzuki> th0r: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:52] <Numberjumbo> th0r, how do i change permissions
[03:52] <th0r> Godzuki: sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:52] <jet_> any vbox experts in here?
[03:53] <th0r> Godzuki: you could also 'gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst'
[03:53] <xim_> hey th0r if i make a seperate home partition, how big should i leave the other partition with the OS and software on it?  how much does ubuntu need?
[03:53] <th0r> xim_: I left 35GB for linux, but only needed less than 7, so 10-12GB should be plenty for /, the rest of your drive should be /home, except a bit for swap maybe
[03:54] <libtech> whats the difference between gksudo and sudo?
[03:54] <jet_> im trying to install windows xp on a virtual machine and i get a fatal error
[03:54] <th0r> libtech: gksudo for gui apps, sudo for terminal apps
[03:54] <libtech> oh, thanks
[03:54] <xim_> ah ok because i was thinking like 50gb lol
[03:55] <Frank83> What's the difference between init 6 and shutdown -r (They both do the same, but I heard the latest is "more safe"
[03:55] <th0r> libtech: although I almost always use sudo...old habit
[03:55] <arceye> what do I need to have a basic web html server is it just apache ?
[03:55] <th0r> arceye: you might want to consider something lighter than apache, like maybe nginx
[03:55] <jimisrvrox1> hey guys I need some assistance with downloading VLC Media player. I would like to know what dependancies I need to get and whatnot..I got the .deb file but Id like to get it to where I can get all the deps to put it on a machine that has no net connection..
[03:56] <yoophglup> no one knows then?
[03:56] <Davidebian> jet_: errors about missing kernel modules? this case i might help
[03:56] <jet_> Daviddebian: no i cant get it to boot off teh cd to run the xp installer
[03:56] <arceye> is that exactly what i search for in add/remove nginx ?
[03:57] <Mortis> Can anyone help out a newish user with an issue where flash games and vids are choppy?
[03:57] <th0r> jimisrvrox1: open synaptic, highlight vlc, then right click and choose properties. From there you can get a list of dependencies
[03:57] <Davidebian> jet_: uh.. version 2.x ?
[03:57] <Frank83> jimisrvrox1, I think that by "Executing" the .deb the system should tell you if it has any unsatisfied dependencies.
[03:57] <th0r> arceye: yes, nginx
[03:57] <jet_> hm not sure
[03:58] <jet_> 3.0
[03:58] <gee> can anyone help me out with this command, 1) open a terminal 2) chmod +x keymaker  3) ./keymaker . when i execute it say no file or directory.
[03:58] <Mortis> Anyone?
[03:58] <th0r> Frank83: he wants a list to download so he can install on a not connected machine
[03:58] <arceye> and for configuring will I be able to find a gui ( i suck with command line )
[03:58] <jimisrvrox1> Frank83: right but I do not want to have to install 100 deps b4 it will install..I am putting this on a flash drive...want like a zip file would be in windows if perferable..
[03:58] <Davidebian> jet_: r u shure you have virtually mounted the cd inside the machine?
[03:59] <Frank83> th0r, He he he missed that detail.
[03:59] <jet_> Daviddebian: yea it was reading it said it couldnt read it for some reason
[03:59] <jet_> i think ill try a restart my computers been on a while that might fix it
[04:00] <yoophglup> hello
[04:00] <Davidebian> jet_: mmmm hard for me..... eheh... reboot sometimes helps when you update the system
[04:01] <Mortis> Is there anyway to fix flash so that my vids don't play choppy and like shite
[04:01] <yoophglup> what flash player are you using?
[04:01] <Mortis> 10
[04:01] <yoophglup> adobe
[04:01] <libtech> Mortis: what kind of system are you running?
[04:01] <yoophglup> try using nash
[04:01] <B1OS> I need to use Wake-On-LAN, What would be causing my NIC to power off when i shut down? PXE is enabled in the BIOS.
[04:02] <jimisrvrox1> ok th0r found a list of deps...is there a way to get like a zip file of deps to go along with the .deb?
[04:02] <Mortis> 750Mb of ram. 500g HD
[04:02] <th0r> jimisrvrox1: not that i know of, you will have to fetch them one at a time from packages.ubuntu.com
[04:02] <jimisrvrox1> that sucks!
[04:02] <Guest79082> no shit
[04:03] <sebsebseb> !langauge |  Guest79082
[04:03] <libtech> Mortis: what kind of graphics controller?
[04:04] <jimisrvrox1> !lang
[04:04] <jimisrvrox1> heh
[04:04] <jimisrvrox1> !langu
[04:04] <libtech> !language
[04:04] <libtech> :)
[04:04] <yoophglup> so no one knows how to fix a XDMCP configuration file????
[04:05] <B1OS> I need to use Wake-On-LAN, What would be causing my NIC to power off when i shut down? PXE is enabled in the BIOS.
[04:05] <th0r> yoophglup: xdmcp isn't recommended as it isn't secure, so most people don't use it
[04:05] <arceye> oh pooh!   I guess i gotta go google it now to find out how to work it :)
[04:05] <gee> can anyone help me out with this command, 1) open a terminal 2) chmod +x keymaker  3) ./keymaker . when i execute it say no file or directory.
[04:06] <urk> anyone else using Ubuntu on a MacBook Pro?
[04:06] <th0r> arceye: nginx?
[04:06] <whimp> When I try to use ssh and login to my ssh account I get an error Permission denied (publickey)
[04:06] <yoophglup> It came installed on ubuntu 9.04 beacuse it comes with GDM and its used for the local session
[04:06] <arceye> i got it nginx.net
[04:07] <arceye> thanks thor
[04:07] <Mortis> I'm still new to Ubuntu... Where does one check your system settings?
[04:07] <Davidebian> B1OS: you' like to use wake-on-line OR pxe ?
[04:07] <B1OS> Davidebian: WOL, but i thought the NIC needs to be PXE compliant?
[04:08] <sebsebseb> Mortis: lspci  in the terminal will tell you stuff about your hardware
[04:08] <arceye> ok next how about ftp server and gui to configure it (again nothing to much required) ?
[04:08] <B1OS> (wake-on-LAN)
[04:08] <Davidebian> B1OS: to get the system on trought network or else?
[04:08] <bucky> gee type ls keymaker   ..is it even in your directory
[04:08] <Davidebian> ok
[04:08] <Davidebian> mm
[04:09] <th0r> arceye: I use vsftpd, but I think proftpd has a better gui maintenance app
[04:09] <B1OS> Davidebian: yes, to turn my server on from another computer on the network
[04:09] <gee> no
[04:09] <arceye> thank you   I know the gui for that one :)
[04:09] <gee> says no file or directory
[04:09] <bucky> gee probably because you downloaded to /root or someother directory
[04:10] <gee> what can i do
[04:10] <whimp> When I try to use ssh and login to my ssh account I get an error Permission denied (publickey)
[04:10] <whimp> And all the information sserver side is correct
[04:10] <Davidebian> B1OS: ok then pxe doesn't matter. are you sure the nic is off ?
[04:10] <gee> the file is in my home folder
[04:10] <bucky> gee work in your user's directory... don't dl stuff as sudo and remember where you put things
[04:10] <B1OS> my NIC seems to power off when i shutdown, the LED indicators turn off
[04:10] <yoophglup> if I copy all my files in my home dir and then re-install ubuntu, then copied all the files back would my ubuntu be configured the same with my desktop settings and my compiz settings?????
[04:10] <whimp> I also tried ssh-add (my private key)
[04:11] <bucky> gee might be on you desktop... is there a little icon or something there for it?
[04:11] <th0r> whimp: sounds like you have user login disabled and public key login enabled in the config
[04:11] <sean> ...
[04:11] <gee> still new to ubuntu, it is in my home folder
[04:12] <Davidebian> B1OS: it may anyway rest in stendby. for wakeonlan to work you need to plug a cable from the nic to motherboard
[04:12] <gee> i just dont know the right command to path there
[04:12] <gee> I thought i did it right
[04:12] <bucky> gee is keyring a directory?
[04:12] <Mortis> I had no prob with running flash when this PC ran a windows system. But since I made the switch my vids play like garbage. Anyway to remedy that?
[04:13] <B1OS> Davidebian: my nic dont need one
[04:13] <Frank83> Open Office Writer Is able to open .docx (Word2007) files, right?
[04:13] <gee> ls keyring
[04:13] <yoophglup> mortis what video card are you using?
[04:13] <donaldo_> como hago funcionar el puto subwoofer de una toshiba laptop??
[04:13] <th0r> Frank83: yes
[04:13] <chauncellor> Frank83, yes,
[04:13] <B1OS> Davidebian: its on board and not PCI
[04:13] <gee> no
[04:13] <bucky> gee it's a file?
[04:13] <chauncellor> Frank83, thanks to the selling of Novell's souls
[04:14] <Mortis> Intel
[04:14] <tesseracter_> in KDE there is a way to open a terminal at the current folder thru the file browser. is there a way to do it in gnome?
[04:14] <Frank83> Chauncellor, Care to elaborate?
[04:14] <toyimp> What is a good music player with a preset internet radio list?
[04:14] <Mortis> Its the onboard
[04:14] <whimp> th0r: if I pastebin'd my ssh_config would you take a quick look at it?
[04:14] <Numberjumbo> yusssss
[04:14] <Numberjumbo> got it working :)
[04:14] <Numberjumbo> thanks for the help
[04:14] <th0r> whimp: I haven't looked at ssh in years
[04:15] <bucky> Frank83: it can open them but if you edit them with OO then you might lose formating if you open with word again
[04:15] <yoophglup> ...
[04:15] <Numberjumbo> /checks #phpbb
[04:15] <Davidebian> B1OS: ther may be something in the b1os to set. you procedure is right? have typed the mac address rightly?
[04:15] <yoophglup> what on board is it? ati, nvidai, intel?
[04:15] <th0r> whimp: but if you post it maybe someone here can see what is wrong with it
[04:15] <gee> where would i find that, the one i am trying to generate is keygen
[04:15] <bmorris> hey guys, how can I add something into my fstab and have it read/writeable by my user?  It keeps getting owned by root and then I run into all sorts of permission problems
[04:16] <Frank83> Donaldo, What is the model of your Toshiba laptop?
[04:16] <B1OS> Davidebian: yes i have done it all, its just that i think ubuntu 8.10 is shutting down incorrectly and turning off my network card also
[04:16] <th0r> bmorris: I think you just put users in the options
[04:17] <tesseracter_> in KDE there is a way to open a terminal at the current folder thru the file browser. is there a way to do it in GNOME?
[04:17] <donaldo_> sos unos maricas
[04:17] <Onyx> I just installed Ubuntu on my laptop and I'm having trouble getting Network Manager to connect to my WPA2-PSK network... I've got wpasupplicant installed.  Any ideas?
[04:17] <yoophglup> if it worked good on windows but your having trouble with ubuntu its probaly a driver issue.
[04:18] <lostson> tesseracter: there is a nautilus script that allows for that yes
[04:18] <rww> !info nautilus-open-terminal | tesseracter_
[04:18] <tesseracter_> thanks rww!
[04:18] <bmorris> th0r, that gave me the same permission error
[04:19] <no_mind> I have ubuntu 8.04 installed and I want to install openldap2.3 which is available in 8.10 onwards. How do I install openldap2.3 on 8.04
[04:19] <dungbx> is there any1 knows about PostFix?
[04:19] <whimp> When I try to use ssh and login to my ssh account I get an error Permission denied (publickey)
[04:19] <whimp> And all the information sserver side is correct
[04:19] <whimp> http://pastebin.com/m4d312258
[04:19] <whimp> there is a look at my ssh_config
[04:19] <gee> any ideas bucky?
[04:19] <whimp> any help is appreciated
[04:19] <dungbx> join #postfix
[04:19] <Davidebian> B1OS: nono, all depends on bios, anyting alse can turn off the nic. it should rest on althought some energy saving options are on. you may have to look to your motherboard manual
[04:19] <th0r> bmorris: pastebin /etc/fstab
[04:20] <Estuardo> buenas!!!
[04:20] <toyimp> What is a good music player with a preset internet radio list?
[04:20] <bmorris> th0r, http://pastebin.org/4994
[04:20] <mazda01> bmorris, there's an app in universe called pastebinit. it's awesome. you just run pastebinit /filename   and then the terminal returns the pastebin url. awesome app for when you need help.
[04:20] <Estuardo> alguien puede ayudarme?
[04:21] <lobf> hey guys, is there an easy way for me to change flvs to mp3s in ubuntu?
[04:21] <mazda01> th0r, there's an app in universe called pastebinit. it's awesome. you just run pastebinit /filename   and then the terminal returns the pastebin url. awesome app for when you need help.
[04:21] <th0r> whimp: I don't think the error will be in your client conf, but in the server conf.
[04:21] <bmorris> mazda01,  that sounds awesome.  I'll check it out
[04:21] <whimp> th0r: why do you say that?
[04:21]  * misfit_00_M test
[04:22] <lobf> hey mofos
[04:22] <B1OS> Davidebian: sudo /etc/init.d/halt i even changed "NETDOWN=yes" to "NETDOWN=no"
[04:22] <lobf> you know any way to change flvs to mp3s in ubuntu
[04:22] <lobf> i won't want to run mediacoder in wine, really
[04:22] <lobf> i figure there's a more straightforward way
[04:23] <B1OS> *nano
[04:23] <B1OS> :)
[04:23] <th0r> bmorris: I think it is user, but take that out altogether and look at the gid. I think the default gid for users is 100 if I am not mistaken
[04:24] <th0r> bmorris: try this....http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=219472
[04:24] <fizk_> ubuntu r0ckz
[04:24] <gee> bucky, do u know what im doing wrong?
[04:25] <bmorris> th0r, okay I'll give that a try.  Thank you!
[04:26] <yoophglup> man there is no help in here
[04:26] <Davidebian> B1OS: the operating systems can handle only acpi power functions. when system is off, power managing rely only on bios settings. althought you may have a very hold MB that doesn't support standby. that's the case for pentium 2 and relatives.
[04:28] <B1OS> Davidebian: ok, thanks for your help.. i'll keep looking into it :)
[04:28] <craigwell> im having a problem resizing an ntfs partition with gparted..
[04:28] <craigwell> when i check information about the unmounted partition in question,
[04:29] <craigwell> i have three "cluster accounting errors"
[04:29] <craigwell> and tells me to run chkdsk /f on the partition from windows,
[04:29] <craigwell> reboot twice..
[04:29] <craigwell> is this why i cannot resize it?
[04:30] <bmorris> th0r, thanks! that worked out
[04:30] <th0r> bmorris: np...glad it worked for yoou
[04:30] <Davidebian> actually i've never performed it. however you have to move only troughout the bios
[04:31] <craigwell> i'll try the chkdsk.... seems logical
[04:32] <mcrumley> has anyone installed php 5.3 on ubuntu?
[04:32] <johnli> hello
[04:33] <konsumer> Hi
[04:33] <ShawnC> Hi, I need help with my ubuntu, I can't connect to a WPA secured wifi, I have googled around and have came accross WPA_supplicant, I don't fully understand how to make my wifi work with this. My Wifi card is iwl3945, I'm running ubuntu Hardy with the linux headers 2.6.24-24-generic.
[04:33] <B1OS> Davidebian: i have tried alot in the the bios, some people say the OS does play a part. my NIC will stay on if i shutdown using windows, but not in ubuntu
[04:33] <johnli> php on ubuntu,p google
[04:33] <konsumer> good bye, sorry for the auto connect , my first time using ubuntu + xchat :)
[04:33] <konsumer> and didnt know it would auto connect to here
[04:34] <konsumer> anyways, peace
[04:34] <johnli> i use the XCHat
[04:34] <mcrumley> the latest php in aptitude is 5.2
[04:34] <Bryan_Sierra> can anyone here help with a Ubuntu PowerPC question?
[04:35] <Barridus> alt-f2 no longer brings up a text box for a command, and looking in system/prefs/keyboard shortcuts i see nothing about bringing up that box as a shortcut.  can anyone assist in recreating it?
[04:35] <johnli> Bryan_sierra,PowerPC question,please copy the question in this page
[04:35] <johnli> ?
[04:36] <Barridus> (i assume i just need to know what the command to invoke it is)
[04:36] <Bryan_Sierra> johnli, ?
[04:36] <johnli> yes?
[04:36] <Bryan_Sierra> johnli, I'm not sure what that last sentence means.
[04:36] <Bryan_Sierra> copy the question in what page?
[04:37] <ShawnC> Hi, I need help with my ubuntu, I can't connect to a WPA secured wifi, I have googled around and have came accross WPA_supplicant, I don't fully understand how to make my wifi work with this. My Wifi card is iwl3945, I'm running ubuntu Hardy with the linux headers 2.6.24-24-generic.
[04:37] <johnli> oh,in this page
[04:38] <johnli> Shawnc,you must update your system
[04:38] <Barridus> can anyone copy and paste the command they have under keyboard shortcuts for alt-f2 please?
[04:38] <wade> ubuntu should work "out of the box" with WPA
[04:39] <ShawnC> johnli?
[04:39] <Davidebian> B1OS: be sure pxe doesn't matter. pxe is for booting and loading an operating system by network. to boot from local by LAN signal there is wake on line
[04:39] <ShawnC> wade, it never has...
[04:39] <wade> What happens when you try to connect?
[04:39] <ShawnC> just stays with no dots
[04:39] <ShawnC> lit up
[04:39] <ShawnC> none or lit up for a long time..
[04:39] <racecar56> so i have this libflashplayer.so file where do i move it
[04:39] <racecar56> to make it work as flash
[04:40] <goefu_> caOs
[04:40] <wade> have you connected to other networks without encryption?
[04:40] <ShawnC> yes wade
[04:40] <ShawnC> i can connect to wep and non-password protected.
[04:40] <Barridus> can anyone copy and paste the command they have under keyboard shortcuts for alt-f2 please?
[04:40] <Davidebian> B1OS: about the OS influence: afaik, os can do nothing
[04:40] <B1OS> Davidebian: the are two different options in the bios for 'OS install mode' and a different one for 'intergrated NIC with PXE'
[04:40] <racecar56> Barridus: huh?
[04:41] <wade> Have you tried WEP? I am just asking to kind of rule out all possible senarios.
[04:41] <ShawnC> ø20:40:10ø ShawnC • yes wade
[04:41] <ShawnC> ø20:40:18ø ShawnC • i can connect to wep and non-password protected.
[04:41] <Barridus> racecar56, is there not a command linked to alt-f2 by default?  (you know, should be the input box for a command)
[04:41] <racecar56> Barridus: yeah
[04:41] <Davidebian> B1OS: what do they list ?
[04:42] <ShawnC> wade ø20:40:18ø ShawnC • i can connect to wep and non-password protected.
[04:42] <Barridus> racecar56, yes as in yes there is nothing listed like that?
[04:42] <wade> I have the iwl4965 on my laptop and use WPA2 with no problems. Let me see if I can find some info by looking at my system.
[04:42] <ace_> hi
[04:42] <racecar56> Barridus: yes as in there is something listed if i was using gnome at the moment
[04:42] <ShawnC> wade, i want WPA not WPA2 :P
[04:43] <B1OS> Davidebian: well, thats is what they list.. its two totally different options. i leave OS install mode OFF, and intergrted NIC, ON
[04:43] <Barridus> racecar56, i need to recreated that shortcut and can't seem to find what the command listed there is, and need someone to copy and paste whatever the default is for alt-f2
[04:44] <Barridus> recreate*
[04:44] <racecar56> Barridus: i'd guess it would be something like gnome-run but i don't know
[04:44] <wade> when you try to connect does it ask for a password?
[04:45] <Davidebian> B1OS: i dont' think they are the hot spot. what about the boot device order?
[04:45] <ShawnC> yes wade.
[04:45] <Barridus> can anyone copy and paste the command they have under keyboard shortcuts for alt-f2 please?
[04:45] <ShawnC> I enter the password. And it won't connect.
[04:45] <ShawnC> but now i tried some command and now it's all fucked up, say's im connected but it's accually plugged in that's connected
[04:45] <ShawnC> but it says wired is conected
[04:45] <ShawnC> ...
[04:45] <B1OS> Davidebian, i keep the NIC second in the list under hard disk
[04:47] <ShawnC> hey wade..
[04:47] <ShawnC> how do i fix that?
[04:47] <wade> yes?
[04:47] <ShawnC> sudo wpa-supplicant -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -D wired -i eth0
[04:47] <wade> not sure on that one you could have done anything depending on the command
[04:47] <ShawnC> i did that command, how do i undo it?
[04:47] <Davidebian> B1OS: eh. I think it's found. try take nik first. elsewere it boots from hard disk
[04:48] <B1OS> Davidebian, i dont think that will effect it but i will try it and get back to you
[04:49] <Davidebian> B1o whait!
[04:49] <Davidebian> B1OS: you don't think?
[04:49] <B1OS> yeah
[04:49] <B1OS> :)
[04:49] <B1OS> lol
[04:49] <Davidebian> B1OS: do you have an hard disk plugged from where you boot?
[04:49] <wade> hold on
[04:50] <B1OS> what do you mesn
[04:50] <B1OS> *mean
[04:50] <Barridus> anyone know the command to invoke a 'run' dialog?  (like what alt-f2 does)
[04:51] <B1OS> Davidebian, i will try it. i will still be logged in here on my over computer :)
[04:51] <Davidebian> mean that if nic is second, the harddisk (that is first) boot leaving the nic off
[04:51] <racecar56> so i have this libflashplayer.so file where do i move it to make flash player work?
[04:52] <soreau> Barridus: The default run dialog is part of gnome-panel
[04:52] <B1OS> Davidebian, even if the nic was last in the list, then shutdown from windows.. the nic will be on still (lights on)
[04:52] <Barridus> soreau, the keystroke is broken for me, i'm trying to do what i can to recreate/diagnose it
[04:53] <Barridus> or replace it
[04:53] <soreau> Barridus: Do you have window borders visible?
[04:53] <B1OS> but i will try
[04:53] <Barridus> soreau yes
[04:53] <szccsdccd> what's the meaning of "sfptp-yr"?
[04:54] <ShawnC> so... wade?
[04:54] <Alex__> Who was saying about people fcking up their own comps? That it's not just bad luck?
[04:55] <Davidebian> B1OS: i really don't know about os, like you say. but can just try that
[04:55] <wade> I am trying to figure out the command it appears to have edited wpa_supplicant.conf.
[04:55] <darthanubis> !language | Alex__
[04:55] <sebsebseb> !ot |  Alex__
[04:55] <Alex__> oh oops
[04:56] <Alex__> sorry, I thought I was in ##hardware rofl
[04:56] <Um_cara_qualquer> to a burnt audio cd work on a regular cd audio player, which writing mode should i use: DAO - TAO - RAW  or should i just let Auto?
[04:56] <wade> in which case all you would need to do is open wpa_supplicant.conf by using "sudo gedit wpa_supplicant.conf"
[04:56] <sebsebseb> Um_cara_qualquer: auto
[04:56] <Um_cara_qualquer> uhuu
[04:56] <kama> hello
[04:57] <soreau> Barridus: You can try gnome-do for an alternative
[04:57] <sebsebseb> Um_cara_qualquer: burnt CD's don't work on all CD players
[04:57] <darthanubis> Um_cara_qualquer: obviously if you don't have a clue AUTO
[04:57] <wade> and find the line that was added.
[04:57] <Um_cara_qualquer> hahah too late dudes
[04:57] <cyberjorge> if i type uname -r i get 2.6.27-7 but i  don't have directory with that name, where can i get it?
[04:57] <kama> Absolute ubuntu noob here, can someone help me with my new installation on a netbook?
[04:57] <sebsebseb> cyberjorge: a directory what?  that's your kernel and your on 8.10?
[04:57] <sebsebseb> kama: maybe
[04:57] <Um_cara_qualquer> but thx anyway
[04:57] <sebsebseb> kama: what do you want help with exactly?
[04:58] <Um_cara_qualquer> ops
[04:58] <kama> I have an averatec 1000 series and installed 9.04 netbook remix
[04:58] <Um_cara_qualquer> wrong channel o_O
[04:58] <cyberjorge> sebsebseb: i need to point the vmware tool installer to the directory of the kernel i am using
[04:58] <kama> my netbook is not picking up wifi signals and the camera does not work
[04:58] <sebsebseb> kama: I thought you wanted help installing,  which maybe I could help with,  but other issues such as those two nope
[04:58] <Um_cara_qualquer> Auto it is then
[04:58] <sebsebseb> cyberjorge: it's in  /boot I think
[04:58] <veggteppe> Anyone that can help me get cinelerra workin? tried googling up some answers, but cant find any that works(prolly works, but not when im the one typing) :P
[04:59] <ShawnC> wade
[04:59] <kama> seb: the install went fine from a thumb drive
[04:59] <Um_cara_qualquer> than
[04:59] <ShawnC> wade
[04:59] <wade> still here
[04:59] <nomad77> Cyber_Akuma: in /usr/src
[04:59] <ShawnC> i did that. but it's a blank file.
[04:59] <Um_cara_qualquer> what's the diference between "than" and "then" ?
[04:59] <nomad77> whoops
[04:59] <Barridus> soreau, i guess i'll try that for now, thanks
[04:59] <cyberjorge> sebsebseb: but it says the directory doesn't exist for /usr/src/linux-headers-2.16.27-7
[04:59] <sebsebseb> !ot |  Um_cara_qualquer
[04:59] <nomad77> cyberjorge: look in /usr/src
[04:59] <soreau> Barridus: Have you tried rebooting and all?
[05:00] <billing> what podo dog
[05:00] <YoG> can someone help me setup a joypad?
[05:00] <wade> oops sorry here is the correction "sudo gedit /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf"
[05:00] <ShawnC> yes but it's still blank wade.
[05:00] <cyberjorge> nomad77: no  2.6.27-7 in there only 2.6.27-14
[05:00] <ShawnC> i need to figure out what to enter in there.
[05:00] <Barridus> soreau, yeah and googling for answers.  anyhow i think i'm gonna give up for now, thanks for the gnome-do idea i'll give it a whirl
[05:01] <wade> the original command would have brought up a blank file.
[05:01] <kama> anyone out there who can give a hand getting my netbook to pick up wifi?
[05:01] <ShawnC> yes.
[05:01] <ShawnC> then i put info in there
[05:01] <ShawnC> i did this.
[05:01] <nomad77> cyberjorge: try using synaptic search for linux-headers see what versions are available
[05:01] <ShawnC> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Network802.1xAuthentication
[05:02] <ShawnC> but it fucked everything up, i can't connect to wireless connections anymore.
[05:02] <sebsebseb> !language |  ShawnC
[05:02] <ShawnC> i click on them and it goes "Connected" right away with 0% then everything dc's and won't work.
[05:02] <nomad77> ShawnC: try installing wifi-radar or wicd
[05:03] <ShawnC> it says the wifi's are there.
[05:03] <nomad77> check the settings
[05:03] <kama> i am having trouble with installing.
[05:03] <kama> as in i can run an exe file, but am clueless with ubuntu
[05:03] <ShawnC> no_mind, it worked before then i did this cuz i couldn't connect to wpa. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Network802.1xAuthentication
[05:03] <ShawnC> nomad77*
[05:03] <B1OS> Davidebian, nic still powers off, and when i turn the system on again the nic just waits for the magic packet with the MAC address (after 2 minutes the system starts normal)
[05:03] <wade> I agree with nomad77 that may solve your problem or even madwifi
[05:03] <sebsebseb> !wireless |  kama
[05:04] <cyberjorge> nomad77: the checked version in synaptic is 2.6.27-14  how can switch to that kernel from 2.6.27-7
[05:04] <nomad77> cyberjorge: try installing linux-image that version using synaptic
[05:05] <cyberjorge> then?
[05:05] <veggteppe> Anyone that can help me get cinelerra workin? tried googling up some answers, but cant find any that works(prolly works, but not when im the one typing) :P
[05:05] <nomad77> run the vmware installer or whatever
[05:05] <sebsebseb> kama: Did you install the special netbook version?
[05:05] <kama> yes
[05:05] <kama> seb: yes
[05:05] <sebsebseb> ok
[05:06] <nomad77> Cyber_Akuma: you have to reboot to that kernel version grub will auto reconfig
[05:06] <cyberjorge> nomad77: i see, shall i choose virtual? by the way my ubuntu installation is a vmware guest
[05:06] <ShawnC> when i click on WPA with wifi-radar, what's the driver part?
[05:07] <nomad77> cyberjorge: in that case no idea i use virtualbox
[05:07] <cyberjorge> ah ok
[05:08] <nomad77> ShawnC: you want wpa2 tkip bla bla
[05:08] <arceye> what is command for delete ?
[05:08] <ShawnC> I am using WPA not WPA2...
[05:09] <Davidebian> B1OS: so if when it waited for magicpacket you sent it, it seems to be really os related. try googling ..!!!
[05:09] <sebsebseb> arceye: rm
[05:09] <kama> ok i got the docs/wifi open and nothing matcvhes my situation
[05:09] <garyson> sudo make all install -f ~/Desktop/pidgin-fonomobutton-0.1.5/Makefile returns with the error that fonomobutton.c doesn't exist even though i can find the file in the folder, can someone help?
[05:10] <nomad77> ShawnC:   well driver will be wext,externalfor backend afaik
[05:10] <B1OS> Davidebian, i have... many times :) i will continue
[05:10] <ShawnC> nomad77. so what do i enter there...
[05:10] <arceye> ok thanks   now how do i remove a directory ?
[05:10] <th0r> arceye: rmdir
[05:10] <arceye> thakns again
[05:10] <sebsebseb> arceye: which directory?
[05:11] <nomad77> ShawnC: wireless extensions = west
[05:11] <mcnellis> I have a cmmand I'm looking at: php /var/www/vhosts/varlabs.com/apps/silkroad-fb/cron/fb-profile-fbml.php >/dev/null 2>&1 and am curious what the 2>&1 means?
[05:11] <arceye> can i tell you in pm the channel moves to fast ?
[05:11] <ShawnC> it's asking What wpa driver?
[05:11] <nomad77> ShawnC: meant wext sorry
[05:11] <ShawnC> so i enter wireless extensions = wext
[05:11] <mcnellis> I get the >/dev/null sends the output to /dev/null so it's not recorded but what's the last part do?
[05:11] <ShawnC> so i enter "wireless extensions = wext"
[05:11] <sebsebseb> arceye: I  just wanted to know it, in case your trying to remove a directory that you shoudn't really remove
[05:11] <nomad77> ShawnC: external
[05:11] <ShawnC> so i enter "wireless external = wext"
[05:12] <blognewb_> Anybody here who is Dutch or from Holland?
[05:12] <sebsebseb> !nl |  blognewb_
[05:12] <arceye> ok I set up a user account , then removed the user account now I want to remove the users home dir
[05:12] <nomad77> ShawnC: i use wicd its much easier,and wpa2
[05:12] <th0r> blognewb_: I have a dutch oven
[05:12] <blognewb_> sebsebseb: :)
[05:12] <blognewb_> th0r: you are a racist.
[05:12] <blognewb_> that doesn't count.
[05:13] <sebsebseb> arceye: I think  there's even a command to remove users
[05:13] <sebsebseb> blognewb_: np
[05:13] <arceye> i removed user and the respective group through gui
[05:13] <sebsebseb> arceye: ok
[05:13] <InCubaTor> hello. i got an update today.. i have the jaunty and64 installed. recived an update to day from 2.6.28-13 to 2.6.28-14. after reboot and a hour of netsufin my screen goes bananas. as if there appear a new layer and the srceen is duplicated and the new layer is moved down and sideways on the sceen. does this make any sence to any one?????
[05:14] <arceye> i have chowned that users dir to be mine but still access is denied to remove the dir
[05:14] <Um_cara_qualquer> what's the command to open cd/dvd drive on terminal :P ?
[05:14] <ShawnC> nomad77 gets stuck at Aquiring ip.
[05:14] <ShawnC> doesn't work.
[05:14] <nomad77> hmmm
[05:14] <kama> is there a way to stop these joined and 'quit' announcements?
[05:15] <th0r> InCubaTor: I had to back up to 28-13, 14 took my internal wifi card out of service
[05:15] <wade> Um_cara_qualquer:eject
[05:15] <mikebot> How do I check the permissions of an external hdd?
[05:15] <wade> Shawn this sounds like a router issue.
[05:16] <sebsebseb> !permissions | mikebot
[05:16] <ShawnC> wade
[05:16] <ShawnC> how do i fix what i did earlier.
[05:16] <Um_cara_qualquer> doens't work o_O
[05:16] <ShawnC> i want to be able to conect to wep's still..
[05:16] <nomad77> mikebot: try ls -al /dev/foo
[05:16] <mikebot> sebsebseb: Thanks.. could this be why it works in ubuntu (I can write to it), but I can only read to it on a mac?
[05:16] <ShawnC> i fucked all of it up.
[05:16] <FloodBot1> ShawnC: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:16] <Um_cara_qualquer> why the hell my driver doesn't open?
[05:17] <anux> any ony know about exploit ?
[05:17] <sebsebseb> !langauge  |  ShawnC
[05:17] <wade> I don't know except for looking through the wpa_supplicant documentation.
[05:17] <sebsebseb> mikebot: on your Mac do you mean with Mac OS X,  or you got Ubuntu on there as well?
[05:17] <tommyneedshelp> hi help guys
[05:17] <wade> I would reinstall.
[05:17] <ShawnC> no
[05:17] <ShawnC> I have too much info
[05:17] <ShawnC> on ehre.
[05:17] <sebsebseb> !details |  tommyneedshelp
[05:17] <mikebot> sebsebseb: os x, sorry
[05:17] <wade> and setup a separate home partition in the install.
[05:18] <ShawnC> i've been using this ubuntu for around 2 years now.
[05:18] <mikebot> nomad77: ls: cannot access /dev/foo: No such file or directory
[05:18] <anux> any ony know about exploit ?
[05:18] <sebsebseb> mikebot: which file system is the external drive?
[05:18] <blognewb_> i r scared
[05:18] <wade> me too
[05:18] <blognewb_> me twi
[05:18] <ShawnC> so why do youwant me to reinstall.
[05:18] <ShawnC> I will lose all my info.
[05:18] <sebsebseb> ShawnC: well I have used it since the second release in 2005, with Fedora Core 2 and 4 before it
[05:18] <mikebot> nomad77: /dev/sdb1
[05:18] <tommyneedshelp> an error occured, during installation, saying that kernell was not installed.. and cannot be installed. ubuntu server
[05:18] <ShawnC> sebsebseb i don't care, he's telling me to reinstall and i'm telling him i will lose too much information cuz i have had this for 2 years.
[05:19] <mikebot> sebsebseb: /dev/sdb1
[05:19] <sebsebseb> ShawnC: ah I see
[05:19] <wade> that is the way to save hair.
[05:19] <sebsebseb> ShawnC: ah ok
[05:19] <sebsebseb> ShawnC: yeah well it's times like these when a seperate home partition come in handy
[05:19] <sebsebseb> !home |  ShawnC
[05:19] <wade> AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[05:19] <tommyneedshelp> help ubottu, an error occured, during installation, saying that kernell was not installed.. and cannot be installed. ubuntu server
[05:19] <vince_> Had a quick question about the Ubuntu Kernel.  I see that the current version in the repositories is 2.6.28 but if I go to kernel.ubuntu.com I see a version 2.6.30
[05:19] <ShawnC> sebsebseb can you just tell me how to revert from what i did?
[05:20] <BobTheBlueBerry> OK
[05:20] <vince_> Am I not seeing updates properly or whats wrong/untested with the newer versions
[05:20] <geoff__> can anybody recommend a utility to monitor network traffic on my LAN?  i share my internet access with a neighbor and want to make sure he's not up to any shennanigans
[05:20] <sebsebseb> !wireless |  ShawnC
[05:20] <Geoffrey2> what's the command to find the master grub file?
[05:21] <arceye> Yehaw   I got it :D
[05:21] <sebsebseb> !grub |  Geoffrey2
[05:21] <BobTheBlueBerry> On my old comp, I set a bunch of stuff in Systems>Prefernces>About me now on my new comp when i got to About me it's the same stuff as on my old comp that I set myself this is creepy
[05:22] <InCubaTor> th0r: hi. do you think the new kernelheader can destroy the graphic driver?
[05:22] <tommyneedshelp> an error occured, during installation, saying  " No installable Kernel was found, " what to do...
[05:22] <coz_> BobTheBlueBerry,  did you upgrade or install over top of an install?
[05:22] <sebsebseb> geoff__: I think there may be something in the repo, if you give it a good look through
[05:22] <mikebot> sebsebseb: any ideas?
[05:22] <ShawnC> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Network802.1xAuthentication
[05:22] <ShawnC> sebsebseb I DID https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Network802.1xAuthentication
[05:22] <ShawnC> it just screwed up all my stuf.
[05:22] <ShawnC> I can't connect to wifi's now.
[05:22] <sebsebseb> ShawnC: wireless is not my area
[05:22] <BobTheBlueBerry> No I made a clean install on my new computer
[05:23] <th0r> InCubaTor: I wouldn't be surprised at anything with that kernel...have seen several here recently who had problems of various sorts after th eupgrade
[05:23] <tommyneedshelp> i am having a kernel problem, im on installatin phase... what to do guys?
[05:23] <coz_> BobTheBlueBerry,  ok was there an ubuntu install on the hard drive already when you did this "clean install?
[05:23] <ShawnC> well can someone tell me how to revert from doing https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Network802.1xAuthentication...
[05:23] <geoff__> sebsebseb: i've looked, but i must not be using the right keywords in my search, because all i've been able to find is network traffic monitors for the computer the program is running on
[05:23] <ShawnC> This is getting very annoying.
[05:23] <InCubaTor> th0r: ok. thanks
[05:23] <BobTheBlueBerry> No it was a new computer with crappyvista on it
[05:24] <coz_> BobTheBlueBerry,  mmm
[05:24] <th0r> InCubaTor: you should have the last kernel still in the box, press ESC at bootup
[05:24] <sebsebseb> !language |  BobTheBlueBerry
[05:24] <coz_> BobTheBlueBerry,  that is strange
[05:24] <Guest66432> slt
[05:24] <BobTheBlueBerry> I know it's creepy
[05:24] <coz_> BobTheBlueBerry,  I can understand y our info showing up if you had an ubuntu install on the hard drive already but not with vista
[05:25] <coz_> BobTheBlueBerry,  did you transfer over a saved home directory?
[05:25] <BobTheBlueBerry> No
[05:25] <coz_> BobTheBlueBerry,  then I am puzzled why old info would show up if the old info was not on the drive  or transferred over o0
[05:26] <BobTheBlueBerry> I did give i think the hardware testing thing my launchpad login
[05:26] <InCubaTor> th0r: thanks. i know ill just edit menu.lst back to 2.6.28-13
[05:26] <BobTheBlueBerry> But I don't think that stuff is stored in launchpad
[05:26] <alazyworkaholic> I'm having trouble with my dvd drives. I just burned a file from another computer on a DVD-RW, works fine elsewhere, but when I put it in this machine either nothing happens or it's recognized as a blank (recognized as blank if I put it in, nothing happens, back out, back in). It also hasn't been recognizing blank disks correctly & burning doesn't always work. The drive works well in other computers & before I upgraded 
[05:26] <tommyneedshelp> guys, im having an error "the installer cannot find a suitable kernel package to install" help me guys
[05:26] <coz_> BobTheBlueBerry,  that I am not sure of
[05:27] <ShawnC> HOW DO I REVERT BACK FROM DOING https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Network802.1xAuthentication NO WIFIS WORK NOW.
[05:27] <InCubaTor> th0r: atleast if the problem persists
[05:27] <sebsebseb> !caps |  ShawnC
[05:27] <sebsebseb> !patience |  ShawnC
[05:27] <tommyneedshelp> guys, im having an error "the installer cannot find a suitable kernel package to install" help me guys
[05:27] <th0r> InCubaTor: I have frozen my install...no more updates...don't need the aggravation
[05:27] <sebsebseb> alazyworkaholic: I see,  well   someone else had issues burning DVD not that long ago,  and  me  pretty recently
[05:27] <ShawnC> how do i revert back from doing: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Network802.1xAuthentication no wifis work now.
[05:27] <mikebot> My current external hdd allows me to write on it in ubuntu, but not in os x. The permissions are: brw-rw----. Do I need to change this?
[05:27] <sebsebseb> alazyworkaholic: K3B  would always go bad, then eventaully I get lucky with Brasero
[05:28] <ShawnC> how do i revert back from doing: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Network802.1xAuthentication no wifis work now.
[05:28] <sebsebseb> alazyworkaholic: normalley  those  two programs should work great, and my  DVD drive as far as I know is fine,   so  I wonder if maybe there are bugs in the versions 9.04 has or something
[05:28] <tommyneedshelp> guys, im having an error "the installer cannot find a suitable kernel package to install" help me guys
[05:28] <alazyworkaholic> sebsebseb: I've tried brasero, k3b, gnomebaker...
[05:28] <sebsebseb> alazyworkaholic: plus I think there was someone in here not that long ago with a similar issue,  so makes me wonder
[05:29] <wade> ShawnC: I would uninstall the wpa-supplicant package and delete /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf then reinstall wpa_supplicant to rebuild the conf file.
[05:29] <jet_> is there a way to take files from an virtual machine and copy them to the user?
[05:29] <InCubaTor> th0r: lol... sounds reasonable
[05:29] <ShawnC> wade
[05:29] <ShawnC> i have no problem with wpasupplicant
[05:29] <sebsebseb> alazyworkaholic: well there could be a bug in Ubuntu that effects all of those programs
[05:29] <ShawnC> the problem is from this command: sudo wpa-supplicant -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -D wired -i eth0
[05:29] <BellinXFelon> how can i format an external hard drive in terminal?
[05:29] <sebsebseb> alazyworkaholic: have you got another computer around with Windows on it or something?
[05:30] <wade> It sounds like you bound the wireless to the wired based on the page you have referenced.
[05:30] <sebsebseb> alazyworkaholic: and a DVD burner of course
[05:30]  * roved2101 gives sebsebseb a big hug
[05:30] <kama> any suggestions on how to get my built in cam working?
[05:30] <th0r> BellinXFelon: what file system? ext3, ext4, ntfs?
[05:30] <BellinXFelon> ext3
[05:30] <alazyworkaholic> sebsebseb: this one dual boots w XP. I have two burners. One new SATA & one old PATA that both worked fine.
[05:31] <BellinXFelon> th0r : ext3
[05:31] <sebsebseb> alazyworkaholic: if so  you could burn on there,   plus  I have another idea
[05:31] <th0r> BellinXFelon: I think it is makefs.ext3 /dev/sda3 (or whatever device partition you want)
[05:31] <wade> the command you ran that messed things up only referenced 1 file that is wpa_supplicant.
[05:31] <sebsebseb> alazyworkaholic: ok so it works in XP on there?
[05:31] <ShawnC> it says "Connected to wireless network", but doesn't accualy connect now since i did this command: sudo wpa-supplicant -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -D wired -i eth0
[05:31] <alazyworkaholic> sebsebseb: yes, flawless, just like 8.04
[05:31] <nomad77> ShawnC: maybe boot live-cd copy over the files you edited,start with a known good,or generic setup
[05:32] <jet_> anyone got some time for a couple virtual box questions?
[05:32] <kama> how do i turn off these stupid join/leave messages?
[05:32] <sebsebseb> alazyworkaholic: I  think in the past I have burnt DVD's without problems with Ubuntu,  I think there may be an issue with 9.04 that is effecting some of us, or many of us,   just no one knows it's a bug in this case
[05:32] <BellinXFelon> th0r: that did not work
[05:32] <sebsebseb> alazyworkaholic: there could be a bug, but I woudn't know
[05:32] <alazyworkaholic> sebsebseb: I'm certain it's not the drives themselves. Do you know if an alternative DVD access system exists? Something that would be used by all/most dvd writing programs?
[05:33] <ShawnC> nomad77?
[05:33] <sebsebseb> alazyworkaholic: well I even tried imgburn in Wine, but  then the drive woudn't be detected in it
[05:33] <ShawnC> will that remove my stuff?
[05:33] <Dulak> after I upgraded to 9.04 I couldn't burn over 16x anymore.  I have a 24x burner but I have to set it to 16x or it coasters the disk
[05:33] <sebsebseb> alazyworkaholic: How much RAM do you have?
[05:33] <AnActivist> Hey everyone I just got a new laptop for college what would you reccomend as the best way to get my entire desktop from my current ubuntu box to my laptop?
[05:33] <th0r> BellinXFelon: checking...been a while since I did that
[05:33] <mikebot> My current external hdd allows me to write on it in ubuntu, but not in os x. The permissions are: brw-rw----. Do I need to change this?
[05:34] <sebsebseb> alazyworkaholic: and what kind of DVD's are you trying to burn?
[05:34] <mataks> where can i find the chrome.css in firefox so i can edit?
[05:34] <sebsebseb> mikebot: your issue is probably with Mac OS X, so try #mac
[05:34] <sebsebseb> or is it ##mac
[05:34] <Dulak> AnActivist: install ubuntu, rsync over your home directory, install the packages you want to use
[05:34] <BellinXFelon> th0r: its mkfs.ext3 /dev/sdb1
[05:34] <mikebot> sebsebseb: it doesn't have to do with permissions?
[05:34] <BellinXFelon> th0r: i need to unmount first
[05:34] <th0r> I was close
[05:34] <sebsebseb> mikebot: permissions are for OS's not external hard disks
[05:34] <BellinXFelon> th0r: how do i do that
[05:35] <mikebot> sebsebseb: Ah, OK. Thanks
[05:35] <AnActivist> Dulak, alright thanks I have already installed ubuntu on my laptop, so I will look up rsync, thank you very much
[05:35] <th0r> BellinXFelon: sudo umount /dev/sdb1
[05:35] <sebsebseb> mikebot: then OS's such as Ubuntu will give permissions to things
[05:35] <Saturn2888> anyone here use sshfs? I am having an issue with password-less login. It worked before for SSH, but once I setup sshfs, it stopped working, but not immediately, only after a while. Error: "Connection reset by peer"
[05:35] <sebsebseb> mikebot: it's ##mac by the way
[05:35] <mikebot> sebsebseb: K, well, thanks then.
[05:36] <mikebot> THanks
[05:36] <sebsebseb> mikebot: np good luck
[05:36] <mikebot> thanks
[05:37] <alazyworkaholic> sebsebseb: sorry, had to go for a sec, 2GB, DVD-RW (-)
[05:38] <jet_> im looking for a good way to backup my system..... any reccomendations?
[05:39] <sebsebseb> alazyworkaholic: Does your DVD drive use USB?
[05:39] <wade> jet:http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/backup
[05:40] <alazyworkaholic> sebsebseb: other weird behaviour that I've been living with is that nothing is detected & cannot be ejected (file could not be mounted error) when there are in fact blank disks in the drives, & that sometimes the burn finishes & seems perfect on another computer but I'm told it failed at the end of the burning process. I have one new SATA drive, one old PATA drive, same problems for both. No USB.
[05:41] <sebsebseb> alazyworkaholic: so  you are getting stuff burnt that then works on the other computer?
[05:41] <sebsebseb> alazyworkaholic: and using Ubuntu?
[05:42] <some_dude> hey I need some webcam help
[05:42] <BobTheBlueBerry> You're outta luck dude
[05:42] <eross> another kernel update
[05:42] <wade> install cheese
[05:43] <th0r> some_dude: I agree....install cheese.
[05:43] <some_dude> some program as seeing, kopete and webcam, but others wont
[05:43] <alazyworkaholic> sebsebseb: yes, I'm able to burn in 9.04 (at least when the disk's properly detected) but sometimes receive error messages at the end that don't seem to affect the readability of the dvd.
[05:43] <eross> can't wait for them to implement where a reboot is not required on kernel updates
[05:43] <AnActivist> Would it be easier than using rsync if I just connected my laptop and my desktop over my lan?
[05:44] <some_dude> and cheese is working
[05:44] <some_dude> but I would like to stream it
[05:44] <sebsebseb> alazyworkaholic: well I was thinking   do XP in  a  Virtualbox vm,  the closed source one for linux hosts from  http://www.virtualbox.org and then burn stuff with that,  and  yes I know this sounds a bit  sucky really,  but  it   would probably work
[05:44] <sebsebseb> alazyworkaholic: the closed is the one with USB support
[05:44] <wade> not sure on how to do that.
[05:44] <pcbuilder97> does anybody know how i can get ubuntu 9.04 to detect my wirless pci card.   it used to work. even after a few reinstalls now it suddenley isnt detecting it
[05:45] <sebsebseb> alazyworkaholic: then of course  you could  probably virtual machine another distro, or older  version of Ubuntu, and burn with that, and  not get the problems, well worth a try I suppouse
[05:45] <th0r> pcbuilder97: did you do an online update after the install?
[05:45] <adalberto> hey can someone please help me i'm new to ubuntu  i hve just install ubuntu 9 and i have no idea how to remote connect from my xp pc
[05:45] <wade> pcbuilder97: have you reseated the card
[05:46] <alazyworkaholic> I had a vm with kvm a while ago that I may reinstall. I suppose I'll just wait for 9.10 to read & burn easily.
[05:46] <pcbuilder97> yes i updated and rebooted the device it wont detect it
[05:46] <Ghoti> MASTERSTATU31:  did you want to connect do a terminal prompt, or to your desktop?
[05:46] <wade> adalberto: you need a vnc client to do that.
[05:46] <MASTERSTATU31> FROM MY XP PC TO MY UBUNTU DESKTOP
[05:46] <sebsebseb> !vnc |  MASTERSTATU31
[05:46] <MASTERSTATU31> sorry about the caps
[05:46] <sebsebseb> MASTERSTATU31: and you don't need to tunnel it over SSH, when it's done over a local area network
[05:46] <pcbuilder97> i usualy does right after i i8nstall ubuntu. its ask for resrticted drivers. but i just did a reinstall and now nuthing.  so i reinstalled agin still nuthing
[05:47] <some_dude> MASTERSTATU31: ssh, X, vnc, screen
[05:47] <MASTERSTATU31> oook thanks a lot ill tray it
[05:47] <pcbuilder97> is thare a command that will force detectin of new hardware like in windows???
[05:47] <Ghoti> MASTERSTATU31: good luck!
[05:47] <th0r> pcbuilder97: reboot and at the start press ESC. I suspect you have the latest kernel 28-14, but try using 28.13 from the bootup menu
[05:48] <eross> for something secure, there are alot of vulnerability updates for kernel, python, pulseaudio, etc..  kind of puzzling to me but ok
[05:50] <pcbuilder97> ill try it.    oh one more thing  i remember it stoped working right after adding a pci 54k modem i removed the moden reinstalled everything even reset the bios.   i dont know why that would cause the problem but it did
[05:50] <Saturn2888> anyone here use sshfs? I am having an issue with password-less login. It worked before for SSH, but once I setup sshfs, it stopped working, but not immediately, only after a while. Error: "Connection reset by peer"
[05:50] <pcbuilder97> nuthing looks loose or broken either
[05:51] <wade> in the open source community things are patched on a daily basis not a monthly basis like Micor$oft
[05:51] <pcbuilder97> ill try booting with esc.  ill be back if it dosent work.   bye for now
[05:51] <AnActivist> nvm I'm using giver this is perfect
[05:52] <some_dude> ok, so other than cheese, what else do we have ?
[05:52] <BellinXFelon> i just unmounted an external hd from my system how do i get it back
[05:52] <BellinXFelon> i used sudo umount
[05:52] <eross> sudo mount -a  ?
[05:53] <Ghoti> BellinXFelon: plug it back in?
[05:53] <th0r> BellinXFelon: sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sdb1 /media/<mountpoint>
[05:53] <BellinXFelon> th0r : thank you
[05:53] <th0r> BellinXFelon: assuming the dev and file type are correct
[05:54] <BellinXFelon> th0r : bash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'
[05:55] <Bhavic> do i NEED to have rsyslogd running
[05:55] <arceye> how would I do a wildcard to remoe all the files in a dir at once ?
[05:55] <th0r> BellinXFelon: what is the mountpoint?
[05:55] <arceye> remove*
[05:56] <Bhavic> arceye rm -rf *.exe
[05:56] <Bhavic> or rm -rf *
[05:56] <Bhavic> Make sure your in the directory
[05:56] <arceye> ok
[05:56] <ShadowAp3x> arceye rm -rf ./*
[05:56] <wade> some_dude: the progs you are having trouble with you should look at individually because there is probly a setting that needs to be changed in the programs themselves.
[05:56] <Ghoti> arceye: be VERY VERY careful with rm -rf, especially if you are combining it with sudo
[05:56] <thiebaude> !rm
[05:57] <some_dude> I'm thinking it's a v4l2 driver, I'm wondering if anyone can direct me to a program
[05:57] <BellinXFelon> th0r : im not sure. how do i find out
[05:57] <arceye> can't get into the dir :(   access denied
[05:57] <wade> if cheese is working then the other programs should work too.
[05:58] <kama> cheese is not working for me. what are the first steps I need to take to get my web cam working?
[05:58] <Ghoti> arceye: what, exactly, is the directory you're looking to delete?
[05:58] <ShadowAp3x> arceye: is this directory within your home directory?
[05:58] <th0r> BellinXFelon: you have to have a place, a folder or directory, to mount the drive to
[05:58] <arceye> etc/gadmin-proftpd/          gadmin been uninstalled
[05:58] <arceye> nope
[05:58] <BellinXFelon> th0r : it says /dev/sdb1
[05:59] <BellinXFelon> th0r : the mountpoint is just /
[05:59] <arceye> the dir is not empty but i can't delete the files unless done 1 at a time
[05:59] <th0r> BellinXFelon: usually such mountpoints are in /media...open a terminal and type 'mkdir /media/<name>' where <name> is the mount point you want to use
[05:59] <jet_> this is a stupid question
[05:59] <jet_> where do downloads go in firefox?
[05:59] <Ghoti> arceye: if you are SURE:  sudo rm -rf /etc/gadmin-proftpd
[05:59] <wade> not sure kama I still wrestle with my laptop once in a while hoping one day I will get it to work. On a positive note I have gotten other webcams working but they were already detected.
[05:59] <th0r> BellinXFelon: is sdb1 the drive you want to mount?
[05:59] <jet_> i restarted and dunno where to look
[05:59] <xangua> where you tell firefox jet_
[05:59] <BellinXFelon> yes
[05:59] <ShadowAp3x> arceye: your package manager should have removed the directory upon uninstallation. Try purging the configs by doing: apt-get purge gadmin
[05:59] <kama> wade: where do i check to see if it is detected?
[06:00] <th0r> BellinXFelon: that is the drive you just formatted, correct?
[06:00] <xangua> by default go to de desktop carpet jet_
[06:00] <BellinXFelon> th0r: no i haven't formatted it yet
[06:00] <arceye> done the delete thing now
[06:00] <BellinXFelon> th0r: i want to format it
[06:00] <ShadowAp3x> that works too I suppose
[06:00] <arceye> the package remover never removed proftpd dir either
[06:00] <Author> Can anyone recommend me a nice and simple Bind9 GUI?
[06:00] <jet_> so, another dumb one.
[06:01] <arceye> i think proftpd is far to much for my needs
[06:01] <jet_> i found out how to open up the firefox dl window, and its there, but it didnt STAY anywhere
[06:01] <Ghoti> arceye: again, I stress to be ABSOLUTELY sure about what you're doing when you mix sudo with rm -rf
[06:01] <th0r> BellinXFelon: you format it before you mount it. 'sudo mkfs.ext3 /dev/sdb1' without the quotes
[06:01] <ShadowAp3x> if you use "apt-get purge <program>" it deletes all configuration files as well
[06:01] <wade> try this page and see if it helps Kama "https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam"
[06:01] <jet_> do all .deb files do this?
[06:01] <th0r> BellinXFelon: you wanted it formatted ext3, right?
[06:01] <ShadowAp3x> usually just removing the package retains the config files
[06:01] <xangua> jet_: what are you talking about¿¿
[06:01] <BellinXFelon> th0r : mkfs.ext3 /dev/sdb1
[06:01] <BellinXFelon> mke2fs 1.41.4 (27-Jan-2009)
[06:01] <BellinXFelon> Could not stat /dev/sdb1 --- No such file or directory
[06:01] <BellinXFelon> The device apparently does not exist; did you specify it correctly?
[06:01] <Jeruvy> jet_: in your firefox preferences you can set the download dir, or have it prompt you everything.  Try using the Desktop if you lose stuff :)
[06:01] <FloodBot1> BellinXFelon: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:01] <arceye> its done    there is nothing on this box that is important I am just learning to set it up so if all else fails its format and start again :)
[06:02] <ShadowAp3x> ok
[06:02] <WW3> howdy :)
[06:02] <DrMrHorse> after an install of jaunty to a separate partition, hardy will not boot. the selection is in the grub menu, but it loads the splash screen and stays there. recovery mode does freezes.  any ideas?
[06:02] <th0r> BellinXFelon: you need sudo
[06:02] <jet_> meh
[06:02] <DrMrHorse> -does
[06:02] <Saturn2888> lol
[06:02] <jet_> i lost it
[06:02] <jet_> whoops
[06:02] <th0r> BellinXFelon: you are sure it is sdb1?
[06:02] <jet_> ah i know what happened now nvm
[06:02] <BellinXFelon> th0r : same thing happened
[06:02] <arceye> so what does -rf do  then ?
[06:03] <ShadowAp3x> recursive force
[06:03] <Ghoti> arceye: -f forces it to remove everything, -r recurses through subdirectories
[06:03] <th0r> BellinXFelon: did you partition the drive already?
[06:03] <Ghoti> arceye: so a typo could potentially wipe your hard drives and any network or external media.
[06:03] <arceye> thanks  ( not that i will remember)  but the more i play the more i learn
[06:04] <th0r> BellinXFelon: is it a usb drive? Is it already formatted and  you want to reformat it?
[06:04] <kama> is there a global navigation program for ubuntu?
[06:04] <Luis_Felipe> .peta{_}
[06:04] <Luis_Felipe> ...../*\
[06:04] <Luis_Felipe> ..../_*_\ RIPADOR DO CARALHO
[06:04] <Luis_Felipe> ...{('o')}
[06:04] <Luis_Felipe> C{{([^*^])}}D..QUERO TE ABRAÇAR POR TRÁS
[06:04] <Luis_Felipe> ....[ * ].....
[06:04] <FloodBot1> Luis_Felipe: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:04] <Ghoti> arceye: you have a good attitude :)
[06:04] <arceye> sounds like fun
[06:04] <kama> something I can use while yachtinbg?
[06:04] <Ghoti> kama: Google Earth? ;)
[06:04] <th0r> kama: Seaclear runs under wine in linux
[06:04] <BellinXFelon> th0r : yes and yes, i want it to be wiped clean
[06:04] <arceye> i beendoing windows admin for years but linux I just could never grasp the basic concept
[06:05] <arceye> <---  needs  gui , mouse , point and click :)
[06:05] <Ghoti> arceye: sometimes the best way to learn is to just dive in and get your hands dirty, so to speak :)
[06:05] <kama> what is with that prick luis? how do i ignore someone?
[06:05] <th0r> BellinXFelon: are you sure it is partitioned? Is it formatted for windows now and you want to reformat it?
[06:05] <ShadowAp3x> arceye: there's usually almost always a gui way to do things in Linux as well as command line
[06:06] <ShadowAp3x> arceye: there's even a gui for ping... o.O
[06:06] <Author> Can anyone recommend me a nice and simple Bind9 GUI?
[06:06] <wade> Kama are you wanting GPS?
[06:06] <arceye> its what I am doing this time I intend to stick it out m I have no choice I ran out of windows licences :)
[06:06] <kama> yes
[06:06] <Author> since there's guis for everything... =P
[06:06] <jet_> is there a way to refresh the upper bar after you install something
[06:06] <kama> something to hook into my nav gear
[06:06] <Ghoti> Author: I've heard good things about Webmin
[06:06] <wade> try this "https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuGIS"
[06:06] <nisstyre> is there a gui for irssi ? : P
[06:06] <nomad77> no
[06:06] <th0r> kama: there isn't anything that will interface the gps and such
[06:06] <Ghoti> nisstyre: xchat? :p
[06:06] <ShadowAp3x> lol, ok not ALL, but a lot
[06:06] <BellinXFelon> th0r : no i installed xubunut 8.04 onto it, then upgraded my main hd to kubunut 9.04, and now it wont let me write to it so i want to wipe it clean
[06:06] <nisstyre> lol, that's what I'm using
[06:07] <ShawnC> Hi, I am getting VERY pissed off, I can't even connect to wireless networks, i did what you suggested uninstall wpasupplicant then the 2 computer things at the top right disappeard and the internet went away, now i'm on my windows boot and i installed wpasupplicant onto my flash stick... i installed it on my ubuntu but still can't connect to the internet... what can i do to fix this.
[06:07] <Author> Ghoti: Webmin is soooo big.. and has so many dependencies... I was thinking something more standalone
[06:07] <arceye> is there a small ftp server app that doesn't need much configuring and has a gui ?
[06:07] <th0r> BellinXFelon: well, the write issue is something else, but we will take care of the formatting first. Are you sure it is /dev/sdb1?
[06:07] <BellinXFelon> th0r: fairly sure
[06:07] <Ghoti> arceye: 'small' and 'has a GUI' are often mutually exclusive :)
[06:07] <arceye> thor i think mentioned vftp ( or similar )
[06:07] <kama> I am looking for something like maxsea
[06:08] <WW3> i installed ubuntu onto my home external drive and skipped grub when i installed it to the drive.
[06:08] <WW3> i installed it to partition #2, is there a way in windows that i can get the bios to recognize the operating system when i try and boot from the external hard drive?
[06:08] <ShawnC> Hi, I am getting VERY pissed off, I can't even connect to wireless networks, i did what you suggested uninstall wpasupplicant then the 2 computer things at the top right disappeard and the internet went away, now i'm on my windows boot and i installed wpasupplicant onto my flash stick... i installed it on my ubuntu but still can't connect to the internet... what can i do to fix this.
[06:08] <BellinXFelon> th0r: when i typed in umount the comp froze up and it crashed, now kubuntu wont recognize it
[06:08] <kama> shawn: it is better to be pissed off than to be pissed on
[06:09] <th0r> BellinXFelon: is the drive plugged in now?
[06:09] <ShawnC> Hi, I can't even connect to wireless networks, i did what you suggested uninstall wpasupplicant then the 2 computer things at the top right disappeard and the internet went away, now i'm on my windows boot and i installed wpasupplicant onto my flash stick... i installed it on my ubuntu but still can't connect to the internet... what can i do to fix this.
[06:10] <thejackal> hello
[06:10] <vox> ShawnC: we read it the first time, you dont need to keep spamming once a minute
[06:10] <thejackal> ok
[06:10] <ShawnC> the fucking help me... you guys told me to uninstall wpasupplicant which just made it worse.
[06:10] <thiebaude> !language
[06:11] <ShawnC> i don't care.
[06:11] <th0r> yeah...I'm gonna jump right up and help that guy
[06:11] <ShawnC> ...
[06:11] <ShawnC> i'm getting angry
[06:11] <some_dude> Me to
[06:11] <ShawnC> you guys made it worse.
[06:11] <th0r> ShawnC: I didn't make anything worse
[06:11] <some_dude> you know leaving is always an option
[06:12] <vox> i didnt either
[06:12] <some_dude> I might have
[06:12] <xangua> i just entered
[06:12] <B1OS> Device 0:0:0:0 faild to suspend: error 134217730
[06:12] <B1OS> whats that about
[06:12] <thejackal> hi again
[06:12] <DrMrHorse> after an install of jaunty to a separate partition, hardy will not boot. the selection is in the grub menu, but it loads the splash screen and stays there. recovery mode does freezes.  any ideas?
[06:12] <ShawnC> it was nomad77
[06:12] <xangua> !ask | thejackal
[06:12] <WW3> just a question for some_dude do you make sprite comics?
[06:13] <arceye> small ftp server app   suggestions  ( something an idiot can figure out ) ?
[06:13] <Themi> Need help making compiz run on my Ubuntu 64 bit install
[06:13] <some_dude> WW3: nope, I have no idea what you are taking about
[06:13] <th0r> arceye: proftpd is about as easy as any
[06:13] <B1OS> Device 0:0:0:0 faild to suspend: error 134217730
[06:13] <nomad77> ShawnC: no i suggested trying a diff app or copying default files from live-cd never said uninstall anything
[06:13] <WW3> my bad
[06:13] <BellinXFelon> th0r: yes
[06:13] <Guest46125> does anyone know how I identify my self so I can keep my username?
[06:13] <Veinor> How well will a radeon mobility 4850 work?
[06:13] <arceye> but it does stuff i just don't need :(
[06:13] <WW3> i thought that the name sounded familiar
[06:13] <th0r> BellinXFelon: type 'mount' and pastebin the result
[06:13] <Veinor> Assuming I'm willing to install any proprietary drivers
[06:14] <Slart> !register | Guest46125
[06:14] <some_dude> what is the name of that gnome phone program thing
[06:14] <arceye> hmmm  I found proftp lite :)
[06:14] <nisstyre> Guest28565 you might find this useful http://www.wyldryde.org/commands/nickserv.php
[06:14] <Guest46125> thankyou
[06:14] <hzhang> who i am
[06:14] <xangua> some_dude: ekiga ¿¿
[06:14] <th0r> some_dude: ekiga?
[06:14] <hzhang> Guest46125: who i am
[06:15] <some_dude> that's the one
[06:15] <Themi> can any one help?
[06:15] <Themi> ?
[06:15] <ShawnC> nomad77: how do i fix it though, i re-installed wpa supplicant but it doesn't matter, still won't work.
[06:15] <bruce__> my computer crashed and managed to munt some files, gdm is all broken (in looks, both login screen and desktop (ie missing panel etc)) .. under lost+found there is an xml file that has somethign to do with gconf ... where should it go?
[06:15] <BellinXFelon> th0r : how do i paste it without flooding
[06:15] <th0r> !pastebin | BellinXFelon
[06:16] <BellinXFelon> ShawnC : sudo ifconfig eth1down, sudo ifconfig eth1up, sudo dhclient eth1
[06:16] <some_dude> man, I'm trying to play poker over the net with a friend,I can't find any good cam software
[06:16] <dustan123> Hi guys, I am having an issue with my fresh ubuntu install, I have search google but found no working soultion.
[06:16] <ShawnC> ok ill brb then
[06:16] <nomad77> ShawnC: try this http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Jaunty
[06:16] <th0r> BellinXFelon: go to the pastebin and copy and paste the text into it. It will give you a url for the page, paste that in here so I can get it
[06:16] <dustan123> I am unable to shutdown or restart my computer
[06:17] <BellinXFelon> th0r: ok
[06:17] <johnli> hello
[06:17] <B1OS> i forgot my frrenode password, how can i change it?
[06:18] <B1OS> *freenode
[06:18] <johnli> passwd yourpassword
[06:18] <some_dude> I need a program like, apache-webcam
[06:18] <B1OS> john, explain?
[06:18] <wade> dustan123: open the terminal and type "shutdown -r now"
[06:18] <Themi> I need help installing compiz for 64 bit ubuntu
[06:18] <Themi> Can any one be of service?
[06:18] <stew> B1OS: PM
[06:19] <dustan123> Hi guys, I am having an issue with my fresh ubuntu install, I have search google but found no working solution. I am unable to shutdown or restart my computer, it hangs on shutdown.
[06:19] <johnli> some_dude,tomcat
[06:19] <Themi> ?
[06:19] <BellinXFelon> th0r: http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/235634/
[06:19] <dustan123> wade: will do bre
[06:19] <dustan123> *brb
[06:19] <some_dude> johnli: I'm going to need just a bit more
[06:20] <thejackal221> How do you force close a program when it isn't responding and the force quit prompt isn't popping up?
[06:20] <Themi> Compiz install, need help. I know it is already a part of Ubuntu, but it does not seem to be running?!?!?
[06:20] <wade> dustan123: correction it is "sudo shutdown -r now"
[06:20] <nisstyre> thejackal221 go to the system monitor and kill the process
[06:20] <thejackal221> thank you
[06:20] <th0r> BellinXFelon: ok...it isn't mounted. If you type 'sudo mkfs.ext3 /dev/sdb1' what does it say?
[06:21] <n2diy> I'm building a computer for a client, his name is Roy. So, I named the computer roy, but what if he wants a different name for the box? How do I change it?
[06:21] <dila> how can i active my fusion compiz?
[06:21] <phoe6> I did apt-get source vpnc, edited the Makefile to include openssl and now the instructions ask me to do dpkg-buildpackage. but when I do that, nothing happens. From where should I do dpkg-buildpackage, Top level directory or directory containing the source and where will be .deb file created?
[06:21] <Themi> thejackal221 do you know anything about compiz?
[06:21] <ShawnC> BellinXFelon: You know at the top right the 2 computers there?
[06:21] <johnli> som_dude,sorry,is webcam,not webapp
[06:21] <dila> a litle bit
[06:21] <ShawnC> BellinXFelon: that are for wired connection, then the scale for wifi?
[06:21] <Themi> No help with compiz issues?
[06:22] <thejackal221> Themi No sorry I'm still new at this stuff
[06:22] <Themi> cool
[06:22] <Themi> Any one else?
[06:22] <BellinXFelon> ShawnC : yes i know them open up terminal and type that stuff in
[06:22] <dila> ohh ok thnhx
[06:22] <ShawnC> thanks.
[06:22] <ShawnC> brb
[06:22] <johnli> 不知道中文发不发的了，试试哈哈
[06:22] <dila> take to the spanish room please
[06:23] <BellinXFelon> th0r : http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/235636/
[06:23] <sebsebseb> dila: you want the spannish room?
[06:23] <dila> yes please!!
[06:23] <dustan123> wade: no luck same type of hang
[06:23] <sebsebseb> !es |  dila
[06:23] <sebsebseb> !cn |  johnli
[06:24] <dila> thnkx:D
[06:24] <sebsebseb> dila: no problem
[06:24] <Themi> Need Help with Compiz?
[06:24] <Themi> Any one out there?>
[06:24] <johnli> ok,i will use english here
[06:24] <wade> dustan123: have you tried reinstalling yet?
[06:24] <sebsebseb> !compiz  |  Themi
[06:24] <th0r> BellinXFelon: ok....do this. Unplug the drive. Then in the terminal type 'tail -f /var/log/messages', then plug in the drive. You should see half a dozen new lines show up in the terminal...pastebin those
[06:24] <dustan123> wade: yes, I have
[06:25] <WW3> i installed ubuntu onto my home external drive and skipped grub when i installed it to the drive.
[06:25] <dustan123> I hit ctrl+aly+f7 and it said something about gnome display manager and just sat there
[06:25] <WW3> i installed it to partition #2, is there a way in windows that i can get the bios to recognize the operating system when i try and boot from the external hard drive?
[06:25] <sebsebseb> WW3: probably not
[06:26] <WW3> ok
[06:26] <sebsebseb> !grub |  WW3
[06:26] <BellinXFelon> th0r: http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/235641/
[06:26] <sebsebseb> WW3: to change the bios stuff, you have to be in the bios
[06:26] <sebsebseb> WW3: except when it comes to upgrading the bios or whatever
[06:27] <sebsebseb> WW3: and the bios isn't responsible for your bootloader
[06:27] <dustan123> anyone familiar with ubuntu 9.04 hanging at shutdown issues?
[06:27] <WW3> i saw that after i pasted it in sorry i was a little bit busy when i was typing and didn't catch that
[06:28] <WW3> thank you then, have a good evening!
[06:28] <th0r> BellinXFelon: it isn't recognizing that drive at all. My first thought would be to start from a cold boot without plugging in the drive, then type that tail command and plug in the drive. If it doesn't see the drive then, it is probably a hardware fault in the drive. But right now, until it finds the drive, you can't do anything with it
[06:28] <qkgus> any of you guys hear about itshidden vpn?
[06:28] <wade> dustan123: this may be an acpi issue check out this link "http://www.brighthub.com/computing/linux/articles/39504.aspx"
[06:28] <dustan123> wade: I will take a look and get back to you.
[06:28] <ShawnC> Hi, BellinXFelon it doesn't work.
[06:29] <th0r> BellinXFelon: if it does see the drive, when you plug it in you should see messages about what /dev it is...probably /dev/sdb, and what partitions are there, probably /dev/sdb1
[06:29] <sebsebseb> !details |   dustan123
[06:29] <ShawnC> wade: you know how theres the 2 computers at the top right of the screen when it's lan, and when it's wifi it's like the scale thing, i don't even see that anymore...
[06:30] <ShawnC> wade: i removed wpasupplicant then reinstalled it but it's all messed up now, please help me someone if wades not aroudn.
[06:31] <BellinXFelon> th0r : http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/235646/
[06:31] <ShawnC> someone help me?
[06:32] <ShawnC> BellinXFelon: ? you can help me, you told me those commands, they didn't put the icon back :(
[06:32] <ZOMBE> Anybody familiar with using NVIDIA linux drivers?
[06:32] <th0r> BellinXFelon: there we go. You see there are three partitions there....sdb1,2 and 5
[06:32] <wade> you may have accidentally uninstalled other packages that were connected to wpa_supplicant. I would try installing network manager although I don't know all the dependancies.
[06:32] <BellinXFelon> ShawnC : that is all i know, try restarting your computer
[06:32] <ShawnC> i did.
[06:32] <ShawnC> I'm on windows.
[06:32] <cellofellow> ZOMBE: what's the problem?
[06:32] <ShawnC> I had to reboot to try it to boot into linux.. now i'm back on windows cuz it won't work.
[06:32] <BellinXFelon> th0r : yes my main installation of kubuntu 9.04 is on sda1
[06:33] <th0r> BellinXFelon: no...the printout you just put in pastebin...it shows sdb and shows three partitions on that drive, 1,2 and 5.
[06:33] <wade> ShawnC: you may have accidentally uninstalled other packages that were connected to wpa_supplicant. I would try installing network manager although I don't know all the dependencies.
[06:33] <th0r> BellinXFelon: are you sure you don't want anything on that drive?
[06:33] <ZOMBE> When I first installed Ubuntu I upgraded the drivers to 1.85, yet when Ubuntu loaded anytime I scrolled it was laggy, like the drivers didn't work. I decided to use the built in Hardware drivers, which uses 1.80. What could I have done wrong that causes 1.85 to become buggy? The setup seem to have worked properly.
[06:34] <nomad77> ShawnC: in xterm type gnome-panel --restart maybe or right-click panel,add the applet
[06:34] <BellinXFelon> th0r: anything related to sdb1 i want gone
[06:34] <ShawnC> what applet?
[06:34] <cellofellow> ZOMBE: how'd you install the 185 drivers? Envy-ng?
[06:34] <wade> network manager
[06:34] <BellinXFelon> th0r : the other 2 are just swap and extension
[06:34] <nomad77> network-manager
[06:34] <th0r> BellinXFelon: just sdb1? ok 'sudo mkfs.ext3 /dev/sdb1' should work now
[06:34] <BellinXFelon> ok
[06:35] <ZOMBE> cellowfellow: No idea what Envy-ng is. I used the terminal to kill xorg and installed it through the dos like screen.
[06:35] <cellofellow> ZOMBE: gotta remember that generally the nvidia drivers are considered the very definition of buggy.
[06:35] <BellinXFelon> th0r : will i be able to write to it once its done
[06:35] <th0r> BellinXFelon: you will have to create a mountpoint and mount it, but yes, you should be able to write to it.
[06:35] <cellofellow> ZOMBE: so, you downloaded the tarball from the nvidia website and installed it manually?
[06:36] <BellinXFelon> th0r : will you help me get to that point
[06:36] <th0r> BellinXFelon: yeah...let's get it reformatted, then the rest is easy
[06:36] <ZOMBE> cellofellow: that's correct. Only way I know to do it. Took forever to finally get it to install. Been using Windows since 3.1, so I am all new to Linux.
[06:36] <nomad77> ZOMBE: try sudo nvidia-settings and check them
[06:36] <BellinXFelon> th0r : ok
[06:36] <ShawnC> shawn@Shawn-laptop:~$ gnome-panel --restart
[06:36] <ShawnC> Unknown option --restart
[06:36] <Name141> !nvidia
[06:37] <BellinXFelon> th0r : wow this may take a minute
[06:37] <ZOMBE> nomad77: What am I checking for?
[06:37] <th0r> BellinXFelon: yeah...it will take a couple
[06:37] <nomad77> ShawnC: try restarting your gnome-desktop,logout,login then
[06:37] <BellinXFelon> th0r : ill be back
[06:37] <arceye> what does this mean  "sudo usermod -d /srv/ftp ftp"   ?
[06:37] <cellofellow> ZOMBE: the problem probably stems from the fact that the packaged nvidia drivers (the 180 drivers) have been tested somewhat, while the binaries you download from nvidia will be... not optimal to say the least.
[06:37] <ShawnC> restart gnome-desktop?
[06:37] <ShawnC> how?
[06:37] <nomad77> ZOMBE: depends on your card i guess
[06:37] <cellofellow> ZOMBE: what is it that the 185 drivers offer that you want anyway, besides a newer number?
[06:38] <th0r> arceye: who told you to do that?
[06:38] <ZOMBE> cellofellow: So what should I do? Some games I play doesn't allow me to access their settings in 1.80.
[06:38] <arceye> I read it from ubuntu part of the install of vsftp
[06:38] <cellofellow> ZOMBE: games that don't let you access the settings when you use 180 drivers? What's this?
[06:38] <Name141> So basically I want nvidia-glx-177 ?
[06:38] <th0r> arceye: that creates a user directory in /srv/ftp for the user ftp
[06:38] <nomad77> ShawnC: logout,login or reboot it
[06:38] <arceye> but I could follow it blind or I could ask what its telling me to do :)
[06:38] <ShawnC> k
[06:39] <ZOMBE> Runescape, sad to say... It's not recognizing my 3d settings. It has a high detail and low detail mode. High detail mode isn't working...
[06:39] <th0r> arceye: ah...ftp is going to log anonymous users as user ftp and their home directory will be /srv/ftp....it will probably jail them there to protect the rest of the system
[06:39] <cellofellow> ZOMBE: oh, that's probably a Java problem, not nvidia.
[06:40] <arceye> anonymous user have no access (it says by default they do )   but they don't :(
[06:40] <ZOMBE> cellowfello: Before sitching to Ubuntu it worked in Vista Ultimate? I figured it couldn't be a Ubuntu problem since it's like you said Java, so my next guess was video drivers.
[06:40] <Drakeson> what is the most advanced graphics card, in terms of 3D acceleration of the free/open-srource linux driver?
[06:40] <ZOMBE> *cellofellow*
[06:40] <th0r> arceye: yeah....vsftp stands for 'very secure'
[06:40] <Drakeson> is there a wiki page for that?
[06:41] <arceye> i thought it stood for we gonna put files all over the plce and mke you find them before you an edit them :)
[06:41] <cellofellow> ZOMBE: java is more prone to configuration errors and bugs than you give it credit for.
[06:41] <th0r> arceye: that too
[06:41] <cellofellow> ZOMBE: what Java VM are you using?
[06:41] <arceye> this is fun and after I spend days getitng it working i going to blank the drive and start again
[06:41] <th0r> arceye: linux is a test. If you get it to work, you deserve to have it working
[06:42] <ZOMBE> cellofellow: Why would it work in Vista, but not Ubuntu? I formatted 3 times trying to fix this, and nothing has worked. The Sun Java 6, if that's what you're asking.
[06:42] <cellofellow> ZOMBE: ok, so exactly what is happening? Is Runescape attempting to detect your video configuration but failing so not allowing you to run the HQ version?
[06:42] <arceye> as I sadi earlier its a box that I want set up but I don't care about it in any way so I have nothing to lose I have a windows box doing the job at the moment
[06:42] <dustan123> I am sorry but how am I setting acpi to off in the menu.lst file>
[06:42] <th0r> ZOMBE: a more appropriate question would be 'Why did it work in Vista'
[06:43] <ZOMBE> cellofellow: basically when you log in you can select standard or high definition modes. When I select high definition I get a error saying can't detect video settings.
[06:43] <Kartagis> liwhat filesystem would allow me to take the most out of a 1tb harddisk?
[06:43] <Kartagis> what*
[06:43] <arceye> its just fun trying to follow instructions from sites that always want me to work from cli and i want point and click :)
[06:44] <cellofellow> ZOMBE: ok, so how does Java detect video settings so it can report them to Runescape?
[06:44] <th0r> dustan123: on the kernel line you will find a bunch of options at the end of the line, just add acpi=off to the end of the lline
[06:44] <ZOMBE> th0r: Everything seems to be easier in Windows. I actually seem to like Linux better, just Windows make things simple.
[06:44] <cellofellow> ZOMBE: cause you've obviously got good enough hardware for it to work.
[06:44] <dustan123> thx th0r
[06:44] <cellofellow> Windows != Simple. Windows == Everyone else did it for you.
[06:45] <cellofellow> Which is why Windows is in my opinion very hard to fix when broken.
[06:45] <nisstyre> In ease of use, how does OpenSUSE compare to Ubuntu?
[06:45] <arceye> hehe   dude everyone else is doing my nix box for me too :)
[06:45] <ZOMBE> cellofellow: honestly I don't know how that works. I got a dual core AMD so I definitely know it's not me. The exact error is "RuneScape was unable to enter the chosen display mode"
[06:45] <ZOMBE> "
[06:45] <arceye> opensuse failed to even install in my box when i tried it
[06:45] <afat> haha
[06:45] <arceye> and mandriva worked the box way to hard
[06:45] <nisstyre> Like, are RPMs hard to use at first?
[06:45] <th0r> dustan123: read through the file. There is a kernel line that starts with # . If you add the option there as well it will be automatically added every time there is a kernel update
[06:46] <cellofellow> ZOMBE: what's your video card? My lappy is dual core AMD but I wouldn't say it's a graphics beast with this GeForce Go 6100.
[06:46] <ZOMBE> 82000M
[06:46] <cellofellow> ZOMBE: ok, yeah.
[06:46] <DrMrHorse> after an install of jaunty to a separate partition, hardy will not boot. the selection is in the grub menu, but it loads the splash screen and stays there. recovery mode freezes.  any ideas?
[06:46] <cellofellow> ZOMBE: did installing the 185 drivers fix this, or did it not?
[06:47] <ZOMBE> cellofellw: I mean I play any game I want just fine, just can't understand why it's choosing to not work in Ubuntu. Not the best built-in video card, but it does fine.
[06:47] <ShawnC> Ok
[06:47] <ShawnC> Now only wifi's are able to connect too, but wifi';s don't work.
[06:47] <ZOMBE> It did. But It was really buggy.
[06:47] <ShawnC> I can't connect to them but it only shows them, won't show the wired network.
[06:48] <ZOMBE> cellofellow: Have you ever opened up the internet before installing video drivers? Everytime you scroll it lags horribly and goes really slow... That's what happened after I installed 1.85. It was acting as if there were no drivers.
[06:48] <cellofellow> ZOMBE: ?
[06:48] <nisstyre> that happens on windows too
[06:48] <ZOMBE> cellofellow: When I installed 1.85 RuneScape ran properly, just the video drivers were acting buggy.
[06:49] <ShawnC> nomad77:
[06:49] <cellofellow> ZOMBE: so, scrolling in firefox was very slow, seemed buggy, when using the 185 drivers?
[06:49] <suji> Anyone know about IOK(Indic Onscreen Keyboard)?
[06:49] <ShawnC> nomad77: I can't connect to any wifi's it lists and there are no "Wired" networks listed.
[06:49] <ZOMBE> cellowfellow: Correct. But when I use the Ubuntu Hardware Drivers, everything works perfect. I am not sure what I did wrong in the install process.
[06:50] <cellofellow> ZOMBE: was it just firefox where the scrolling was laggy or was it any app?
[06:50] <ShawnC> Ok.
[06:50] <ShawnC> Now it just randomly dc'd me.
[06:50] <ShawnC> nomad77: you have anything that can help me?
[06:51] <ZOMBE> cellofellow: Any applications. When I try to access Display under systems I even get "It appears that your graphics driver does not support the necessary extensions to use this tool."
[06:51] <YellowOnion> like the clock-applet calender is there a applet for email?
[06:51] <cellofellow> ZOMBE: that'd be why you use Nvidia Settings instead of that XRandR GUI tool thing.
[06:52] <uknow> my computer dont know alot of the hardware on my computer is there a way to fix that?
[06:52] <cellofellow> ZOMBE: sounds like all you need to do is tweak the 185 drivers. I say install them with Envy-NG and tinker a bit.
[06:52] <cellofellow> !info envy-ng
[06:52] <cellofellow> !envy
[06:52] <ZOMBE> cellofellow: Where can I find Envy-NG?
[06:52] <cellofellow> ZOMBE: install envyng-gtk with Synaptic.
[06:52] <nomad77> ShawnC: you must have removed a lot,hard to know what you may have changed or removed
[06:52] <nisstyre> you may have to enable some new sources...
[06:52] <killazzz> hi somebody has a link for good mechanical keyboard or cheap stainless keyboard or keyboard like happy hacking keyboard but just more cheap ?
[06:53] <ZOMBE> cellowfellow: What exacly does the problem do?
[06:53] <ShawnC> i removed wpa_supplicant that's it.
[06:53] <cellofellow> ZOMBE: it installs the latest nvidia or ati drivers in a GUI way, less likely to screw up.
[06:54] <uknow> way is there somemeny problems with linux and compatibility with hardware
[06:54] <ZOMBE> cellowfellow: Do I still have to go to NVIDIA's website to download them? Or will this work kind of like the built in Add/Remove programs?
[06:54] <nomad77> ShawnC: you try resetting your router?
[06:54] <nisstyre> uknow I've only had problem with really old hardware
[06:54] <ShawnC> how will taht help my desktop problems?
[06:54] <cellofellow> ZOMBE: no, you install EnvyNG, and run it to install the drivers, which it downloads on its own.
[06:54] <nomad77> ohh
[06:55] <ShawnC> nomad77: i removed wpasupplicant
[06:55] <ZOMBE> cellowfellow: Will it show up under Applications once installed?
[06:55] <ShawnC> why don't you remove it and let me know what i need to reinstall?
[06:55] <cellofellow> ZOMBE: somewhere, yes
[06:55] <nisstyre> ZOMBE just type the name of the program in bash (terminal)
[06:55] <uknow> nah i have a new computer acer it barely work with ubuntu
[06:56] <uknow> so meany problems with hardware cuz it dont have drivers
[06:56] <cellofellow> uknow: try running Windows without manufacturer-supplied driver CDs. It's just in Linux there are no CDs and 99% of drivers are included in the system.
[06:57] <kumar> user@user-laptop:~$ sudo /opt/lampp/lampp start
[06:57] <kumar> [sudo] password for user:
[06:57] <kumar> Starting XAMPP for Linux 1.6.8a...
[06:57] <kumar> XAMPP: Another web server daemon is already running.
[06:57] <kumar> XAMPP: Starting MySQL...
[06:57] <FloodBot1> kumar: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:57] <kumar> XAMPP: Starting ProFTPD...
[06:57] <nomad77> ShawnC: try sudo apt-cache search wpa_supplicant then or use synaptic
[06:57] <voss> Cello, there are no cd's in linux? There are cd's all over the place they are just called ISO files :)
[06:57] <bazhang> !xampp | kumar
[06:58] <cellofellow> voss: no, no manufacturer-provided driver CDs.
[06:58] <daniznewbie> is there a channel where i can ask about turning .bat files into .sh?
[06:58] <kumar> can you please help me out...i ran a command for cake bake and now my apache server is not responding. it says...."user@user-laptop:~$ sudo /opt/lampp/lampp start
[06:58] <kumar> [sudo] password for user:
[06:58] <kumar> Starting XAMPP for Linux 1.6.8a...
[06:58] <kumar> XAMPP: Another web server daemon is already running.
[06:58] <kumar> XAMPP: Starting MySQL...
[06:58] <FloodBot1> kumar: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:58] <kumar> XAMPP: Starting ProFTPD...
[06:58] <uknow> if linux has com so far and u have to be a computer master to use it why havent the made a windows to linux driver converter
[06:58] <ZOMBE> cellofellow: Hmm it only shows up to 1.80.
[06:58] <cellofellow> ZOMBE: really?
[06:58] <daniznewbie> ﻿is there a channel where i can ask about turning .bat files into .sh?
[06:58] <nisstyre> lmao, a driver converter?
[06:58] <ZOMBE> cellofellow: Same version that I have that came from Hardware Drivers
[06:59] <voss> cello, well yeah because the manufacturers will get their drivers put in the kernel.
[06:59] <bazhang> kumar, dont paste here; xampp installs are not supported here --see the message from ubottu
[06:59] <cellofellow> voss: exactly
[06:59] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP kumar
[06:59] <kumar> bazhang, then from where i can get help ?
[06:59] <cellofellow> voss: point is that Windows doesn't have drivers, manufacturers just go to a lot of trouble to package up their drivers on a CD shipped with the device.
[07:00] <bazhang> kumar, see the link I gave you above
[07:00] <kumar> o.k
[07:00] <voss> cello, thats not necessarily true, there are some universal drivers in windows nowadays.
[07:00] <daniznewbie> can anyone answer my question? is it possible to run a .bat file on ubuntu?
[07:00] <nisstyre> I doubt it
[07:00] <voss> daniz, try running it in wine
[07:00] <arceye> ah well !!   thanks for the help guys I will be back but gotta sleep now :)
[07:00] <cellofellow> voss: VGA graphics drivers, generic ATA drivers, generic USB drivers, generic X-device drivers.
[07:00] <nomad77> daniznewbie: maybe in dosbox,not sure
[07:01] <daniznewbie> alright i've downloaded wine now how do i use it?
[07:01] <cellofellow> Linux has specific drivers for thousands of devices, Windows has generic drivers for dozens.
[07:01] <nisstyre> there might be a program that can convert it to a bash script
[07:01] <kumar> bazhang, i have already installed it...but my apache is not working another web server is running
[07:01] <ShawnC> nomad77: all that stuff is only for wlan, not for wired connections.
[07:01] <voss> cello, also nowadays 802.11g usb drivers
[07:01] <daniznewbie> is there a wine channel for ubuntu?
[07:02] <cellofellow> voss: those are standardized. All (new) 802.11g USB dongles are standardized on the same drivers in Linux, Windows, and Mac.
[07:02] <voss> cello, Most people installing linux have already checked their hardware for compatibility
[07:02] <nomad77> ShawnC: see what ifconfig shows if your wired isn't shown try ifconfig eth0 up and dhclient eth0
[07:02] <ShawnC> i did that.
[07:03] <cellofellow> voss: you probably use this channel more than me. Would you say that's true? How many just grab the CD and pop it in with fingers crossed instead of researching whether they have compatible hardware?
[07:03] <kumar> bazhang, if i uninstall lamp server ...is there any possiblity if i lose my mysql data
[07:03] <voss> cello, the live cd basically does that , if the live cd works okay then you install it
[07:04] <nomad77> ShawnC: try dhclient -r then those commands
[07:04] <cellofellow> voss: well, then
[07:04] <kumar> can you help me ...if i uninstall lamp server ...is there any possiblity if i lose my mysql data
[07:04] <bazhang> kumar, did you read that link?
[07:05] <nisstyre> I spent ages trying to troubleshoot my connection problems and it turned out to be a problem with the NIC itself, but if it's working in windows then I assume you're okay
[07:05] <kumar> bazhang, yes its only for installation..
[07:05] <voss> Ive gotten to the point with linux... atheros wireless(check) Nvidia graphics (check) , and does it print (check)
[07:05] <kumar> bazhang, but i need to save my data as another web server is running...
[07:05] <bazhang> kumar, perhaps ##linux can help as xampp is not supported here
[07:05] <cellofellow> voss: yay!
[07:05] <kumar> bazhang, is there any way to stop another web server
[07:06] <kumar> bazhang, but it was already running on my computer
[07:06] <cellofellow> voss: printing, unless it's a Lexmark printer, is normally a snap in Linux.
[07:06]  * cellofellow thinks it'd be neat if Windows dumped its proprietary printing system and used CUPS instead, that way all major OSes would use the same printing framework, all drivers would work on all systems, and everyone would be happy.
[07:08] <Wiseman> HAY HAY HAY
[07:08] <ProfOak> Hey all, how do I turn off my desktop so I only have a set of terminals?
[07:08] <nisstyre> ProfOak you want to get rid of the gui?
[07:08] <Wiseman> ProfOak: ctrl+shift+f1 I think kills X
[07:08] <uknow> http://pastebin.com/d362c8dab is lspci and i would guess the problems
[07:08] <ProfOak> nisstyre: Just for fun
[07:08] <daniznewbie> #winehq
[07:09] <cellofellow> Wiseguy: no, it doesn't, just hides it.
[07:09] <cellofellow> ProfOak: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[07:09] <daniznewbie> woops
[07:09] <nisstyre> I did that when I first started using Ubuntu (by accident) and it was anything but :P
[07:09] <cellofellow> ProfOak: same command except "start" to regain the gui.
[07:09] <ambi> simply remove ubuntu-desktop package
[07:09] <cellofellow> ProfOak: and I suggest using screen while you are enjoying the land of the console.
[07:09] <Wiseman> wiseguy and wiseman are not the same person, cellofellow
[07:09] <ambi> that will delete GUI (for exaple, if you use kde, you should remove kubuntu-desktop)
[07:10] <bazhang> ambi, that wont do it, as that is only a metapackage
[07:10] <cellofellow> oops
[07:10] <bazhang> ambi, that is not correct
[07:10] <andrewubuntu> hi guys, how do i a do a fix for my notebook : Ubuntu 9.04 has the same sound problem as 8.10 and it can be fixed by creating a new file /etc/modprobe.d/options.conf containing the line " options snd-hda-intel model=mobile "
[07:10] <Wiseman> I aparently have jewish ancestors, so I'm stuck with this name.
[07:10] <bazhang> !puregnome > ambi
[07:10] <andrewubuntu> can anyone help me walk through this? I've just reinstalled ubuntu on my notebook
[07:10] <q0_0p> i have question about the 'who' command
[07:10] <cellofellow> Wiseman: my grandpa was jewish.
[07:10] <ambi> hm. on my last desktop 8.10 i used this method, and i have removed all gui.
[07:11] <q0_0p> what is tty7 pts/0 pts/1 pts/2 ?
[07:11] <Wiseman> andrewubuntu: I had sound problems, video problems, etc with ubuntu.  I switched to mint and it literally fixed everything.
[07:11] <Wiseman> cellofellow: huzzah
[07:11] <cellofellow> q0_0p: tty7 is virtual terminal 7, used by X11. pts/0 is an emulated terminal, used in a terminal emulator like gnome-terminal.
[07:12] <q0_0p> oh i c
[07:12] <andrewubuntu> Wiseman: thank you, but the sound is the only thing that is not working for my notebook, i think i'll stick it out with ubuntu ;-) can anyone help me walk through the steps for the fix?
[07:12] <q0_0p> cellofellow, thanks
[07:12] <cellofellow> q0_0p: ctrl+alt+F1-6 will get you virtual terminals 1-6, respectively. eg tty1, tty2. tty6.
[07:12] <q0_0p> make sense
[07:12] <q0_0p> now i know what tty1 means
[07:12] <q0_0p> i didn't know ctrl+alt+f1-f6 was virtual terminals
[07:12] <q0_0p> i just thought it was a terminal
[07:13] <cellofellow> q0_0p: the name tty actually comes from teletype, which was once upon a time the only way to connect to mainframe and minicomputers, which was what UNIX is.
[07:13] <cellofellow> q0_0p: a real terminal is a discreet device connected to the system with a serial or parallel connection. Rarely used today. The linux console emulates terminals, as do terminal emulators.
[07:14] <kilana> i got problem people in ubuntu 9.4
[07:14] <kilana> i hope i can found the answer here
[07:14] <q0_0p> cellofellow, thx for the history
[07:14] <mataks> how to take screenshot using terminal command?
[07:14] <ikonia> mataks: scrot
[07:14] <cellofellow> q0_0p: a tty was an electric typewriter connected to a modem which would dial in to the serial device, getting a terminal with a roll-paper display.
[07:14] <andrewubuntu> Hi, can anyone help walkthrough the steps to fix the sound of my notebook? The documentation is: Ubuntu 9.04 has the same sound problem as 8.10 and it can be fixed by creating a new file /etc/modprobe.d/options.conf containing the line options snd-hda-intel model=mobile.
[07:14] <cellofellow> mataks: scrot
[07:15] <ambi> kilana: what is the problem?
[07:15] <kilana> my installer cant seen my harddesk (sda1 sda2 sdb1 sdb2 etc ) it only shows the sda
[07:15] <mataks> ok thnx guys
[07:15] <kilana> and inside my harddesk got windows xp
[07:16] <mataks> no man for scrot..  how to take screenshot with timer?
[07:16] <n2diy> what command is equivilant to ifup eth0 for a wireless card?
[07:16] <hyperionx11> andrewubuntu, sudo touch /etc/modprobe.d/options.conf; echo "snd-hda-intel model=mobile" > /etc/modprobe.d/options.conf
[07:16] <andrewubuntu> guys, how do i do this? ;-(
[07:16] <cellofellow> mataks: sleep timeinseconds && scrot
[07:16] <cellofellow> !info scrot
[07:16] <ambi> kilana: how many harddrives do you have, and how many partitions on them?
[07:17] <kilana> 1
[07:17] <nisstyre> andrewubuntu it's a simple matter of editing the text file to contain the new lines
[07:17] <andrewubuntu> hyperionx11: it says permission denied
[07:17] <nisstyre> use sudo
[07:17] <hyperionx11> andrewubuntu, use sudo
[07:17] <kilana> and 6 partation
[07:17] <cellofellow> mataks: scrot has a manpage on my system.
[07:17] <andrewubuntu> hyperionx11: yes, i did use sudo
[07:18] <andrewubuntu> hyperionx11: the exact command i used is sudo touch /etc/modprobe.d/options.conf; echo "snd-hda-intel model=mobile" > /etc/modprobe.d/options.conf
[07:18] <cellofellow> mataks: you could use sleep do delay or scrot -d NUM
[07:18] <hyperionx11> andrewubuntu, try ls -loa /etc/modprobe.d does it exist?
[07:18] <mataks> cellofellow, k thnx man
[07:18] <kilana> one for windows xp(fat32) and one ext3 is empty and one for swap and one empty ntfs
[07:18] <ambi> kilana: that's it! maybe you should make a partitions on your harddrive and then I think you will see sda1 sda2 devices
[07:18] <kilana> but the installer dosnt seen them
[07:19] <kilana> only i can see is the sda , so if i format it or creat new partation from it all my systems will gone
[07:19] <ambi> hm.. while i print a message, you type a new information, what version of ubuntu you trying to install?
[07:20] <n2diy> kilana: If IIRC, you can only have four Primary partions on a drive, are you safe with that?
[07:20] <andrewubuntu> hyperionx11: the output is - total 48
[07:20] <andrewubuntu> drwxr-xr-x   2 root  4096 2009-07-29 14:16 .
[07:20] <andrewubuntu> drwxr-xr-x 124 root 12288 2009-07-29 14:00 ..
[07:20] <andrewubuntu> -rw-r--r--   1 root  2387 2009-04-09 01:42 alsa-base.conf
[07:20] <andrewubuntu> -rw-r--r--   1 root   325 2009-03-19 00:02 blacklist-ath_pci.conf
[07:20] <andrewubuntu> -rw-r--r--   1 root  1467 2009-03-19 00:02 blacklist.conf
[07:20] <FloodBot1> andrewubuntu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:20] <hyperionx11> andrewubuntu, that command is the same as vi (edit) /etc/modprobe.d/options.conf typing in that line in and saving
[07:20] <kilana> 9.4
[07:20] <Bob_Dole> Does Ubuntu 8.04 use the restricted driver for the R200 series ATI GPUs? (Radeon 8500, Radeon 9000, Radeon 9200, etc..)
[07:21] <andrewubuntu> hyperionx11: sorry, but i really do not understand how to do that, i am a complete noob at ubuntu
[07:21] <xnevermore> could someone please tell me how to disable pulseaudio in karmic (9.10)? "killall pulseaudio" used to do the trick, but now it seems to reload everytime i try to kill it.
[07:21] <uknow_> can some one help me with theses support probles with these devices http://pastebin.com/d6681acc2
[07:21] <kilana> but in ubuntu 8.4 its work fine
[07:21] <andrewubuntu> hyperionx11: sorry ;-(
[07:21] <n00b101> what tools can be used to monitor users accounts on a small home network?
[07:21] <cellofellow> xnevermore: pulseaudio -k might work
[07:22] <n2diy> n00b101: what do you want to monitor?
[07:22] <mataks> cellofellow,  where can i see the default saved location in scrot?
[07:22] <n2diy> what command is equivilant to ifup eth0 for a wireless card?
[07:22] <nomad77> xnevermore: or sudo /etc/init.d/pulseaudio stop maybe
[07:22] <xnevermore> cellofellow: nope. it seems to reload there too
[07:23] <n00b101> files accessed/web activity
[07:23] <nomad77> mataks: its your current directory
[07:23] <xnevermore> nomad77: using init.d informs me "PulseAudio configured for per-user sessions"
[07:23] <andrewubuntu> ......
[07:23] <cellofellow> mataks: seems to default to outputting to the current path.
[07:23] <cellofellow> mataks: don't see an output-dir option.
[07:23] <hyperionx11> andrewubuntu, try this sudo su  then nano /etc/modprobe.d/options.conf then add that line for intel then ctrl-X and (Y yes to save) and then exit
[07:24] <nomad77> xnevermore: then try same without sudo
[07:24] <xnevermore> I also can't find anywhere in ubuntu's prefs where I can choose ths sound server used. i believe it used to be possible in System->Preferences->Sound
[07:24] <xnevermore> nomad77: i get the same message sans-sudo
[07:25] <cellofellow> xnevermore: can you just uninstall pulseaudio?
[07:25] <nomad77> use the pulseaudio manager then,the gui
[07:25] <andrewubuntu> hyperionx11: ok done.
[07:25] <andrewubuntu> hyperionx11: saved the file.
[07:25] <dustan123> Anyone familiar with ubuntu 9.04 hanging on shutdown issues? (so far it's not an ACPI issue)
[07:25] <andrewubuntu> hyperionx11: and exited.
[07:25] <hyperionx11> andrewubuntu, type exit so you dont damage your systerm as root #
[07:25] <xnevermore> cellofellow: I'd rather not uninstall it, I'd just like to disable it for a while.
[07:26] <andrewubuntu> hyperionx11: ok, done, exited.
[07:26] <xnevermore> nomad77: where would i find this pulseaudio manager?
[07:26] <hyperionx11> andrewubuntu, try to reboot and look for sound
[07:26] <bazhang> !info pavucontrol
[07:26] <cellofellow> xnevermore: remove the execute bit (chmod -x) the executables
[07:26] <andrewubuntu> hyperionx11: ok, rebooting now, be back in 5
[07:26] <andrewubuntu> hyperion, before i go, thank you. also, can u tell me where is the location of this file? i can't seem to find it anywhere
[07:27] <n00b101> *what tools can be used to monitor users accounts web/file activity on a small home/business network?
[07:27] <hyperionx11> andrewubuntu, ls -loa /etc/modprobe.d/options.conf
[07:27] <xnevermore> cellofellow: that seems a bit... hackey. It seems like there should be a cleaner way of doing this, but if all else fails, I'll keep it in mind. It IS a clever solution
[07:28] <cellofellow> xnevermore: I think the PulseAudio devs are too proud to admit that anyone would not want to use their server.
[07:28] <doug__> server/ irc.wyldryde.org
[07:28] <andrewubuntu> okie hyperionx11, thank you very much. rebooting now, back in a couple.
[07:28] <cellofellow> I like pulse myself, except when I need to use JACK for something, then it gets in the way.
[07:29] <xnevermore> cellofellow: lol... maybe you're right
[07:29] <mike_s> hi...i am using an Acer Aspire 1694wlmi with Ubuntu 9.04 (ATI Mobility X700)...because of the X700 i have to use the radeon driver, because the fglrx is not available any more! but if i connect my laptop via s-video to my tv...and enter xrandr...there is no S-Video detected??? does anyone know a solution??
[07:30] <wizzo50> What is the best Laptop to buy?
[07:30] <hyperionx11> alienware m17x
[07:30] <bazhang> wizzo50, please ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:31] <hyperionx11> unless you like to hack at stuff a lenovo thinkpad
[07:31] <Leopoldo> Hi everybody, I had deleted the partition on which Ubuntu was installed, and now I have problems with XP boot manager. How can I restore it_
[07:32] <Grant-A> !guest
[07:32] <Leopoldo> Anyone who can help me_)
[07:32] <Grant-A> Leopoldo: Do you own a Windows XP installation DVD?
[07:32] <Leopoldo> Grant/A, yes I do, but it is a setup-only disc
[07:32] <Leopoldo> disk
[07:33] <n2diy> what command is equivilant to ifup eth0 for a wireless card?
[07:33] <bazhang> Leopoldo, you wish to reinstall ubuntu? or is this a windows only question
[07:33] <Leopoldo> I mean, there is no way to load the command prompt
[07:33] <Grant-A> I see
[07:33] <Leopoldo> I wish to restore the thing
[07:33] <nomad77> n2diy: iwconfig
[07:33] <Grant-A> IIRC, Microsoft released some sort of special CD for this
[07:33] <Grant-A> let me look
[07:33] <Leopoldo> The thing Ubuntu created, so I wanna repair the xp mbr
[07:33] <Leopoldo> Ok, thanks a lot
[07:33] <Leopoldo> I'll wait here
[07:33] <n2diy> ifwonfig ???
[07:33] <bazhang> Leopoldo, Grant-A please take to #ubuntu-offtopic or ##windows
[07:34] <nomad77> n2diy: iwconfig
[07:34] <hyperionx11> n2diy, ifconfig eth0 up , iwlist eth0 scan, iwconfig eth0 essid X
[07:34] <hyperionx11> n2diy, then dhclient eth0
[07:34] <Leopoldo> bazhang, why_
[07:34] <bazhang> Leopoldo, it is a windows issue
[07:34] <hyperionx11> n2diy, um, WEP only, WPA needs wpasupplicant installed
[07:34] <Leopoldo> Bazhang, it isn't
[07:35] <hyperionx11> hi
[07:35] <Leopoldo> It's an Ubuntu issue
[07:35] <bazhang> Leopoldo, are you re-installing Ubuntu?
[07:35] <arussel> On one of my ubuntu box, I have some nice profile coming with screen. But on the other one, even with the screen-profile package install, I have nothing. What could be the difference ? (both are jaunty 64)
[07:35] <andrewubuntu> hyperionx11: hello, the sound is working now, thank you very much
[07:35] <andrewubuntu> ;-)
[07:35] <Grant-A> bazhang: Technically it was a problem caused by Ubuntu
[07:35] <n2diy> nomad77: hyperionx11, ok, roger that, better copy and save this, thanks.
[07:35] <Leopoldo> Grant-A is right
[07:35] <Leopoldo> If Ubuntu hadn't all these problems when you try uninstalling it, I wouldn-t ask here
[07:35] <DrMrHorse> can i replace firmware without being able to boot?
[07:35] <arussel> and if someone could paste the ubuntu-black profile somewhere, that would be extra nice :-)
[07:36] <Leopoldo> So, grant-a, found anything?
[07:36] <MidsummerDawn> I need help right quick.
[07:36] <Grant-A> I'm looking
[07:36] <Leopoldo> OK
[07:36] <hyperionx11> Leopoldo, download a win98 boot cd off the net and boot off of it when your at a c:\ run fdisk /mbr
[07:36] <hyperionx11> Leopoldo, or the XP cd should have a tool on it
[07:36] <Leopoldo> hyperion, where can I download it?
[07:37] <hyperionx11> Leopoldo, hold on
[07:37] <Leopoldo> Hyperion, my xp cd is a setup/only disk
[07:37] <Grant-A> hyperionx11: That option would be illegal
[07:37] <BellinXFelon> th0r : its only half way done
[07:37] <hyperionx11> Leopoldo, you mean streamlined?
[07:37] <BellinXFelon> th0r : we might have to do this in the morning
[07:37] <Leopoldo> hyperion, yes
[07:37] <Leopoldo> withouth the possibility to access the "recovery" part
[07:38] <smxy> hello. I'm working at the text console. I installed ddclient but it popped up a curses-based configuration program which I exited as I didn;t have the needed info at the time. I don;t know how to get the package configured now and uninstalling and reinstalling it does not prompt me with the configuration program any more. :-/
[07:38] <Leopoldo> So_
[07:38] <Leopoldo> ?
[07:39] <hyperionx11> Leopoldo, http://www.allbootdisks.com/downloads/ISO/AllBootDisks_ISO_Image_Downloads25/Win98SE_bootdisk.iso
[07:39] <Grant-A> Leopoldo: When setup loads, can you press "R" to enter the recovery mode? or is this entirely impossible?
[07:39] <The^user> goodmorning VIETNAM1111111111111111111
[07:39] <wizzo50> why not 2.8?
[07:39] <Leopoldo> It-s impossible
[07:39] <Grant-A> Leopoldo: If I can't find the disc, there's always the possibility of installing GRUB on Windows
[07:39] <Grant-A> Leopoldo: Would that work?
[07:40] <DrMrHorse> can i change the mountpoint of a partition from / to /home?
[07:40] <Leopoldo> No, I hate GRUB
[07:41] <wasabi_> what's another project that offers free ui icons like tango?
[07:41] <MidsummerDawn> Is there a messenger service for Ubuntu that supports webcam?
[07:41] <Grant-A> Well, there is a way to make GRUB automatically pass over to Windows
[07:41] <Grant-A> I do it with Ubuntu. It involves setting the timeout to "0"
[07:41] <hyperionx11> Grant-A, yes
[07:41] <Leopoldo> granta, but my XP MBR is damaged
[07:42] <hyperionx11> Leopoldo, do you get a grub prompt or error?
[07:42] <MidsummerDawn> Message me when someone has an answer, please. Thank you.
[07:42] <Grant-A> Leopoldo: Right, but if GRUB were installed to Windows, it would take over the MBR, you could set it to auto-boot Windows, and its like nothing ever happened
[07:42] <MidsummerDawn> PM*
[07:42] <abddu> Leopoldo, i think u should just fix grub using a live CD if possible ...
[07:43] <abddu> il try finding u the link i used some time ago .....
[07:43] <wizzo50> Does Pidgen allow voice chatting?
[07:43] <hyperionx11> i wish
[07:43] <Leopoldo> abddu, but how_
[07:43] <Grant-A> Leopoldo: I've got an idea
[07:44] <abddu> just a moment ... i used to have the steps somewhere :D ... some minutes ..
[07:44] <hyperionx11> wizzo50, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=237593
[07:44] <Grant-A> Leopoldo: Install Ubuntu to a small partition, then log in. Edit /boot/grub/menu.lst, set the time out to "0" where it talks about automatically booting, and then copy the Windows section above the Ubuntu section
[07:44] <thejackal221> How do you view your system stats, like ram?
[07:45] <abddu> leopoldo, can you check this post? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[07:45] <Grant-A> Leopoldo: This should effectively automatically boot Windows, almost the same as the normal Windows bootloader does it
[07:45] <Kartagis> thejackal221, /proc/
[07:45] <vohoo> anyone know of a good msn alternative, that would support voice and video chat?
[07:45] <thejackal221> thanks
[07:45] <abddu> check the steps after: THIS IS ANOTHER EDIT.
[07:46] <wasabi_> what's another free icon set besides Tango?
[07:46] <abddu> have you checked that before?
[07:46] <wizzo50> How do you setup Gyachi
[07:46] <DerKlempner> vohoo: Skype
[07:47] <Grant-A> wasabi_: Tangerine, Human
[07:47] <Grant-A> wasabi_: Let me get you a link to a website full of them
[07:47] <wasabi_> thanks
[07:48] <hyperionx11> wizzo50, i have never got gyachi working but ive met people who have
[07:48] <wasabi_> thanks Grant-A
[07:48] <Grant-A> wasabi_: http://www.gnome-look.org/index.php?xsortmode=high&page=0&xcontentmode=120x121
[07:48] <smxy> hello. I'm working at the text console. I installed ddclient but it popped up a curses-based configuration program which I exited as I didn;t have the needed info at the time. I don;t know how to get the package configured now and uninstalling and reinstalling it does not prompt me with the configuration program any more. :-/ How do I get the package to rerun the configuration program?
[07:48] <Grant-A> wasabi_: whoops, wrong link
[07:48] <vohoo> DerKlempner> I know of Skype. Actually by msn alternative, i meant the likes of aMSN, etc that would support audio and video chats...
[07:48] <wizzo50> hyperionx11: How do you start, sudo Gyachi?
[07:49] <hyperionx11> wizzo50, install from package and run as user
[07:49] <Grant-A> wasabi_: http://www.gnome-look.org/index.php?xsortmode=high&page=0&xcontentmode=121
[07:49] <wasabi_> awesome
[07:49] <wasabi_> thanks man
[07:49] <Grant-A> wasabi_: That part of the site is full of icon themes
[07:49] <Grant-A> wasabi_: enjoy
[07:50] <jacquesdupontd> hey hi yo
[07:50] <nnull> some of the nice icon packs on there are > 70 meg tho so watch out if ure memory restricted ;)
[07:50] <nnull> most arent tho.
[07:50] <DerKlempner> vohoo: support for audio AND video (stress on the "video" part) isn't as common in Linux, so you're going to hear a lot of recommendations for Skype
[07:51] <BarclaysKing> irc.netsplit.de/timer 0 30 /Me Is Selling ( Bank Of America , Wellsfargo ,HSBC, Abbey And Nationwide logins  Cahoot & Yorkshire. )
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[07:52]  * BarclaysKing Selling [ Socks by country ~ SMTP's ~ Rdp ~ Shells ~ UK and US maillist ~ Inbox Mailer ~ Scanners [ RFI , RDP and SMTP Scanner ]
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[07:52]  * BarclaysKing and i Can teach u How to Spam Only By 20 ..$Rippers And time wasters Go OFF!!.
[07:52] <FloodBot1> BarclaysKing: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:52]  * BarclaysKing -------------------IS Selling fresh Dumps + pin and Dumps without pin.. Msg me for The price List..------------------------------
[07:52] <ActionParsnip1> BarclaysKing: wrong chennel
[07:52] <DerKlempner> vohoo: although Ekiga seems to be popular as well...
[07:52]  * BarclaysKing Selling [ World wide Full + Dob + SSN + MMN , All Countries Cvv's ]
[07:52]  * BarclaysKing Selling [ Socks by country ~ SMTP's ~ Rdp ~ Shells ~ UK and US maillist ~ Inbox Mailer ~ Scanners [ RFI , RDP and SMTP Scanner ]
[07:52]  * BarclaysKing Msg Me for the prices list.. [ Contact me on : inforced2008@yahoo.com ],
[07:52]  * BarclaysKing and i Can teach u How to Spam Only By 20 ..$Rippers And time wasters Go OFF!!.
[07:52] <FloodBot1> BarclaysKing: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:52] <uknow> is ther a driver device updater like Uniblue Driver Scanner but for linux
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[07:53]  * BarclaysKing Selling [ World wide Full + Dob + SSN + MMN , All Countries Cvv's ]
[07:53]  * BarclaysKing Selling [ Socks by country ~ SMTP's ~ Rdp ~ Shells ~ UK and US maillist ~ Inbox Mailer ~ Scanners [ RFI , RDP and SMTP Scanner ]
[07:53]  * BarclaysKing Msg Me for the prices list.. [ Contact me on : inforced2008@yahoo.com ],
[07:53]  * BarclaysKing and i Can teach u How to Spam Only By 20 ..$Rippers And time wasters Go OFF!!.
[07:53] <FloodBot1> BarclaysKing: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:53] <nnull> he can teach us how to spam
[07:53] <smxy> idiot
[07:53]  * BarclaysKing Selling [ World wide Full + Dob + SSN + MMN , All Countries Cvv's ]
[07:53]  * BarclaysKing Selling [ Socks by country ~ SMTP's ~ Rdp ~ Shells ~ UK and US maillist ~ Inbox Mailer ~ Scanners [ RFI , RDP and SMTP Scanner ]
[07:53]  * BarclaysKing Msg Me for the prices list.. [ Contact me on : inforced2008@yahoo.com ],
[07:53]  * BarclaysKing and i Can teach u How to Spam Only By 20 ..$Rippers And time wasters Go OFF!!.
[07:53] <FloodBot1> BarclaysKing: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
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[07:53] <Grant-A> he's a pretty sucky spammer
[07:53] <Grant-A> I can spam 20x better
[07:53] <DerKlempner> i love ignore lists...
[07:54] <jussi01> you guys know about the !ops trigger, no?
[07:54] <smxy> heh, he is selling fresh dumps
[07:54] <Grant-A> !ops
[07:54] <smxy> I can make those myself. :p
[07:54] <Grant-A> here's back
[07:54] <Grant-A> he's back
[07:54] <BarclaysKing> ??
[07:54] <BarclaysKing> suckers where r u from?
[07:55] <jussi01> Grant-A: remember to include a pipe and the nick please
[07:55] <jlu> on intrepid, I replaced my Desktop folder with a symlink, but haven't been able to revert back. Nautilus is showing my home folder as my desktop, even regardless of the gconf desktop_is_homedir setting. Any ideas? : /
[07:55] <Grant-A> eh, I would've gone with a bit higher up the IP block
[07:55] <nnull> banville.
[07:55] <Grant-A> jussi01: ok
[07:55] <jacquesdupontd> i have to answer as i am a sucker ?
[07:55] <jacquesdupontd> hi jussi01
[07:55] <agent_j> how do i make anjuta run with SDL? i can't find any up to date tutorials on this.
[07:56] <johnskulski> can someone double check my crontab. 30 2 * * * /usr/local/scripts/backups.sh   runs every night at 2:30am right?
[07:56] <johnskulski> oh my
[07:56]  * jussi01 waves to jacquesdupontd'
[07:56] <jacquesdupontd> haha
[07:56] <johnskulski> never mind I just realized its EST server :\ hoo boy
[07:56] <vohoo_> DerKlempner: thanks
[07:56]  * jacquesdupontd like it
[07:56] <Grant-A> your name sounds like an improvised verb. "Jacquesdupont'd" :P
[07:57] <jacquesdupontd> in fact its jacques dupont(d)
[07:57] <DerKlempner> vohoo: no worries, i just hope you have a supported webcam   ;)
[07:57] <jacquesdupontd> http://myspace.com/myspacejacquesdupontd
[07:57] <jacquesdupontd> then you will understand Grant-A
[07:57] <asfjio> hello, how can i archive my mail (i'm using evolution) into separate local file so if i want to backup this file to know who and where exactly is located that file?
[07:57] <jlu> hrmm to to clarify, after reverting a change where I replaced by desktop folder with a symlink, Nautilus is now showing my home dir on my desktop, even after I recreated the Desktop folder
[07:57]  * jacquesdupontd made is last sentence off-topic and he promise it to jussi01 
[07:58] <n2diy> what happened to bogomips is lshw?
[07:58] <Grant-A> You promised jussi01 to make an off-topic sentence? OMG CONSPIRACY!!!111!!11
[07:58] <MidsummerDawn> No one knows?
[07:58] <jacquesdupontd> Grant-A, go to my myspace and listen
[07:59] <Myrtti> moving on
[07:59]  * jacquesdupontd made another off-topic sentence, bad guy !
[07:59] <Myrtti> jacquesdupontd: move on
[07:59] <elky> Grant-A, excuse me, what is going on here?
[07:59] <ActionParsnip1> yeah i was thinking that
[08:00] <jacquesdupontd> Myrtti, no worries i stop
[08:00] <elky> Grant-A, i think given your last sentance, i want your response in -ops rather than here.
[08:00] <Grant-A> elky: It was a joke
[08:00] <n2diy> spontaneous order?
[08:01] <elky> Grant-A, (tasteful) jokes are what #ubuntu-offtopic is for. not here.
[08:01] <n2diy> or is it spontaneous chaos?
[08:01] <jacquesdupontd> Myrtti, i just wanna help as i am still drunk from yesterday and have nothing else to do
[08:01] <n2diy> jacquesdupontd: I'll drink to that!
[08:02] <Myrtti> n2diy: you should know better than to join in this
[08:02]  * jacquesdupontd wants people to stop making me answer to off topic
[08:02] <Myrtti> problem solved
[08:02] <n2diy> Myrtti: oh, why, as this happened before?
[08:02] <n2diy> as/has
[08:04] <ActionParsnip1> jacquesdupontd: do you have an ubuntu support uestion?
[08:04] <Myrtti> ActionParsnip1: he's muted currently
[08:04] <ActionParsnip1> Myrtti: thanks
[08:04] <DerKlempner> so i've searched the repositories for a program to monitor LAN traffic for all the computers connected to my router, but i've been unable to find anything that suits my needs.  any suggestions?
[08:06] <n2diy> Myrtti: oh, why, has this happened before? I wasn't aware of it.
[08:06] <bazhang> DerKlempner, to monitor or to shape
[08:06] <Myrtti> n2diy: common sense should have told you not to join
[08:06] <ActionParsnip1> DerKlempner: you will need to use a tool to probe each system every few seconds to create a history, if you swap out your dumb router for a low power consuming pc with a tonne of intelligence you can run monitoring tools on it
[08:06] <DrMrHorse> i have hardy and jaunty partitions that both worked. jaunty still works, but now the hardy partition will not boot, freezes in recovery mode on a line about "generic cd-rom driver."  i can read and write to the partition.
[08:06] <ActionParsnip1> DerKlempner: home grade routers arent really designed for that kind of analysis
[08:06] <Myrtti> n2diy: if there's unrest, you don't start waving your hands in the air and scream "there's some unrest"
[08:07] <DerKlempner> bazhang: just to monitor
[08:07] <DerKlempner> ActionParsnip1: are you saying there isn't anything I can run on this computer to do the job?
[08:07] <n2diy> Myrtti: Ok, but it is late, and slow, and we all tend to drift OT now and then, it isn't the end of the world?
[08:07] <DerKlempner> ActionParsnip1: but i do have a Cisco-powered router, so i'd hope there's something available
[08:07] <Myrtti> n2diy: pm?
[08:07] <ActionParsnip1> DerKlempner: not with any real resolution, you will be sequentially polling the systems to get the latest news then adding it to a backlog of previos stuff which you can then analyse
[08:08] <nnull> ActionParsnip1#  what are you thinking about dd- ? or ?
[08:08] <n2diy> Myrtti: yes, you can.
[08:08] <ActionParsnip1> DerKlempner: then you may be able to turn on logging. i have a Linksys router (cisco home grade thing) which has some logging facility
[08:09] <DerKlempner> ActionParsnip1: same for me, but it's not enough info for me to make sure all computers aren't up to any illegal activities and/or shenanigans that would cause me undue problems
[08:10] <Ileden> Hi! I'm trying to get my Radeon 9200 to work with 3d support with the open source ati/radeon driver by following the guide which says it should be possible: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver  While display is otherwise ok, there's still no 3d support. 'lshw -C display' reports the display as "UNCLAIMED". My Xorg.0.log has only one error, which reads "(EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)". I'm wondering why it
[08:11] <DerKlempner> ActionParsnip1: i've enabled logging, but i was hoping there'd be a program available to help parse the logging info into more specific detail that would allow me to better understand individual computer traffic
[08:11] <wasabi_> anyone here with an iphone?
[08:11] <ActionParsnip1> DerKlempner: implement it on the individual system, install a client agent on each pc which can alert or simply be polled every now and again.Your router is not hugely intelligent. Some allow you to block URLs or IP addresses
[08:11] <wasabi_> it looks like the appstore is not working
[08:11] <wasabi_> i can't download apps
[08:11] <ActionParsnip1> wasabi_: use the repositirys, they are working fine
[08:12] <wasabi_> what? you mean cydia?
[08:12] <Ileden> wasabi_: you sure you're not using Nokia, since "not working" sounds just like Ovi Shop... :D
[08:12] <Beyecixramd> wasabi_: iPhones are not just offtopc, that's not something to discuss about here
[08:12] <wasabi_> i'm talking about appstore
[08:12] <Bob_Dole> I have 2 4GB thumbdrives. I intend to hide them away inside the case. can I make them seem like 1 8GB drive, or set it up so that I won't run out of space as soon?
[08:12] <Beyecixramd> ActionParsnip1: he's talking about AppleStore
[08:12] <drew212> anyone willing to help me with my wireless problem?
[08:12] <wasabi_> for the iphone
[08:12] <DerKlempner> ActionParsnip1: i'm unable to implement a client agent on every system, that's my only issue
[08:12] <bazhang> wasabi_, #ubuntu-offtopic please
[08:12] <ActionParsnip1> wasabi_: no, run: gksudo synaptic   you can install apps from there, or use sudo apt-get install <app name>
[08:12] <Beyecixramd> ActionParsnip1: Applestore, not appstore, he's not talking about ubuntu's appstore, but Apple's store
[08:13] <ActionParsnip1> DerKlempner: its worth it, we use altiris where I work, its on every server we run
[08:13] <ActionParsnip1> Beyecixramd: then he shouldnt abbreviate ;)
[08:13] <wasabi_> lol
[08:13] <DrMrHorse> what command do i put in to find my cd drive info?
[08:13] <DrMrHorse> like model
[08:13] <ActionParsnip1> wasabi_: you shouldnt abbreviate, it leads to confusion
[08:13] <Beyecixramd> ActionParsnip1: yes, and that's offtopic here xD
[08:13] <drew212> one of the listed cards that ubuntu supports causes the system to freeze on my laptop... DWL-650+ Airplus card...
[08:14] <glicks> excuse me, im looking at my character map, and where are the spanish caracters like the inverted questionmark and such?
[08:14] <ActionParsnip1> Beyecixramd: wellits not, i could talk entirely in acronyms in my quest for advice on ubuntu and it would lead nowhere, so I am advising a better method to convey the users question so I can advise
[08:14] <Beyecixramd> glicks: supuestamente al lado de ?
[08:14] <Beyecixramd> a la derecha
[08:15] <glicks> Beyecixramd, heh no hablo much espanol
[08:15] <DerKlempner> ActionParsnip1: it's not a question of "should i or shouldn't i?" it's a question of not every computer being under my administration.  when i have no administrative control over the computers in question then i can't install the necessary software
[08:15] <Beyecixramd> ActionParsnip1: No no, i mean,wasabi, he was doing offtopic here
[08:15] <glicks> im just trying to figure out how to type the spanish characters
[08:15] <Beyecixramd> glicks: wops, sorry, i mean, the ¿ mark is at the right side of ?
[08:15] <glicks> and add them to my character map tool bar
[08:15] <drew212> any help anyone?
[08:15] <Hatsjoe> Heey all
[08:16] <ActionParsnip1> Beyecixramd: gotcha
[08:16] <Beyecixramd> drew212: I sincerely have no idea
[08:16] <glicks> what script Beyecixramd ?
[08:16] <mataks> help pls.. a pop up window appear on my screen it says that  new update installation is ready to install.. i click partially install but i get error that can'tconnect to server ..
[08:16] <Beyecixramd> glicks: dunno
[08:16] <Hatsjoe> Does anyone have some experience installing Wintendo after Ubuntu?
[08:16] <Beyecixramd> mataks: are you behind a router/firewall/proxy?
[08:16] <ActionParsnip1> DerKlempner: then the basic loggin in your router is all you have. You may be able to switch it to tomato which may give more functionality but I am not sure
[08:17] <Beyecixramd> Hatsjoe: http://apcmag.com/the_definitive_dualbooting_guide_linux_vista_and_xp_stepbystep.htm
[08:17] <mataks> Beyecixramd, Nope.. can i jus manually update the file?
[08:17] <ActionParsnip1> DerKlempner: if you are that concerned then install a system as your router and you can analyse every single packet as it flys by
[08:17] <DerKlempner> ActionParsnip1: gotcha, thanks for the info  :)
[08:17] <mataks> Beyecixramd,  can i update using terminal?
[08:17] <Hatsjoe> Beyecixramd I already have a tut, but I need to make sure it works
[08:17] <Hatsjoe> Dont want to lose any data
[08:17] <ActionParsnip1> DerKlempner: you may also be able to buy a small device to put between the router and the world to monitor stuff
[08:17] <Beyecixramd> mataks: yes you can, but i dont remember the command
[08:18] <mataks> Beyecixramd, ok.. i'll just ask smeone else
[08:18] <dahlia> I just installed 9.04 32 bit server. the terminal is very responsive until I run screen then I get long delays before my keystrokes are echoed or processed. Is there something I can change in my screen, like a configuration option or something, that will make it more responsive?
[08:18] <Hatsjoe> mataks sudo apt-get install update
[08:18] <Hatsjoe> oh wrong command xD
[08:18] <Beyecixramd> Hatsjoe: that one will work, you can even boot with NTOSloader instead of GRUB
[08:18] <glicks> im trying to add the inverted question mark to my character map applet but cant find it
[08:18] <ActionParsnip1> mataks: sudo update-manager -d   will jump you to karmic if you are on jaunty
[08:18] <Hatsjoe> without install mataks
[08:18] <mataks> what's karmic?
[08:18] <Beyecixramd> Hatsjoe: that will only update the database, not the system
[08:19] <n2diy> Hatsjoe: upgrade rather than update?
[08:19] <Hatsjoe> Well I found a tut how to backup the GRUB loader and after installing restore it and add XP to it
[08:19] <Beyecixramd> mataks: Karmic Koala is the codename for the next Ubuntu
[08:19] <uknow> what ubuntu works on ps3
[08:19] <Beyecixramd> Hatsjoe: everything is there
[08:19] <mataks> Beyecixramd, what!! another ubuntu..
[08:19] <glicks> im trying to add the inverted question mark to my character map applet but cant find it;0
[08:19] <Bob_Dole> uknow, an official one designed for PS3, not hosted on the ubuntu site...I think.
[08:19] <Hatsjoe> I still use 8.04 LTS
[08:19] <Beyecixramd> mataks: What's wrong with it? they make new versions.... like Microsoft does...
[08:19] <drew212> mataks: yes, ubuntu has a new release every 6 mo.
[08:20] <Bob_Dole> uknow, an unofficial one*
[08:20] <n2diy> uknow: A Play Station?
[08:20] <uknow> ps3 yeah
[08:20] <mataks> yes i know but i jsut installed jaunty this week.. i thought it's the latest
[08:20] <bazhang> #ubuntu-ps3 uknow
[08:20] <Beyecixramd> mataks: almost everyone releases a new version of their OS from time to time
[08:20] <uknow> thanks]
[08:20] <Bob_Dole> I want a PS3 just to run linux on, but I'm poor :/
[08:20] <mataks> is it safe to do this command?  sudo update-manager -d
[08:20] <drew212> mataks: it is the latest, karmic is still in alpha
[08:20] <Beyecixramd> mataks: Karmic Koala is still not ready, it's in alpha stage, so just wait.
[08:21] <Bob_Dole> Commodore doesn't!
[08:21] <Beyecixramd> Bob_Dole: Why a PS3? why not a computer?
[08:21] <ActionParsnip1> !ps3
[08:21] <n2diy> uknow: I didn't know a Play Station could run as a system/box?
[08:21] <mataks> what's new in next versin?
[08:21] <Bob_Dole> Beyecixramd, I have 15 of those, most are x86. I want the power of a CellBroadband engine.
[08:21] <Beyecixramd> n2diy: yes, even the XBOX can run as a computer. They are computers after all
[08:22] <ActionParsnip1> mataks: go find out, its far beyond the scope of an irc channel
[08:22] <uknow> yeah it has install other os on the ps3 meanu
[08:22] <Bob_Dole> The xbox requires hacks, however
[08:22] <Beyecixramd> Bob_Dole: I have the power of a 8800 GTS, which is more than any console, be sure of that
[08:22] <uknow> yeah i have a modded xbox
[08:22] <uknow> aswel
[08:22] <Hatsjoe> I have 3x 8800
[08:22] <Beyecixramd> Bob_Dole: But it can act as a pc, anyway, with or without hacks.
[08:22] <dahlia> nvm I got it to work better by uninstalling screen-profiles
[08:22] <Bob_Dole> the PS3 will run it without any modifications (beyond installing the OS)
[08:22] <Hatsjoe> 3 way-sli ftw
[08:22] <ActionParsnip1> Beyecixramd: not a ps3, 3 CPUs etc. good times
[08:23] <n2diy> Beyecixramd: roger that, but can you actually transform on into a stand alone..., say workstation, or server?
[08:23] <Beyecixramd> ActionParsnip1: Yes, my computer is more powerful than my PC
[08:23] <jacquesdupontd> hey
[08:23] <Beyecixramd> n2diy: as long as you install whatever you want... yes
[08:23] <jacquesdupontd> what about that new kernel on jaunty ?
[08:23] <Beyecixramd> n2diy: it's a computer after all, running a modded version of Windows 2000
[08:24] <drew212> any help with my wireless card situation?
[08:24] <owh> Which process handles the regular checking of updates? I thought it would be a cron-job for Update-Manager, but I cannot seem to locate it.
[08:24] <Hatsjoe> isnt there a modded linux version for lets say an PS3? :P
[08:24] <Bob_Dole> n2diy, the PS3 has 1 drawback, a hypervisor meant for a single purpose, keeping you out of the GPU, is present. So the CPU has to do all the rendering.
[08:24] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, tell me
[08:24] <Beyecixramd> Hatsjoe: Fedora runs without "mods"
[08:24] <Grant-A> Hatsjoe: YellowDog Linux is the Linux distribution officially supported for the PS3
[08:24] <drew212> jacquesdupontd: every time i plug in the wireless card it causes ubuntu to freeze, even though it says it is supported...
[08:24] <Hatsjoe> I mean a linux version for the PS3 and still be able to play the games on it
[08:24] <fotoflo> hmm, there's an error in one of my apache configuration files... how do i search all files under /var/www |grep xargs /htdocs
[08:24] <ActionParsnip1> owh: not sure myself, i rip out everything pakage related that isnt apt-get and dpkg
[08:24] <Bob_Dole> Hatsjoe, modded, no.. There are linux versions compiled for the Ps3, and you just have to select the "install OS" or some such in the XMB
[08:25] <Hatsjoe> cool
[08:25] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, maybe a problem of other modules loaded
[08:25] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, and then conflict
[08:25] <Beyecixramd> Bob_Dole: in the PS3 is as easy as installing any OS in any computer
[08:25] <n2diy> Beyecixramd: how do you communicate with the PS? Ethernet? What OS is it running?
[08:25] <Bob_Dole> Hatsjoe, No. Because the GPU is locked out, the CPU has to do all the rendering if you aren't using a game
[08:25] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, tell me the name of your wireless card please
[08:25] <drew212> jacquesdupontd: it is the D-link Airplus DWL-650+ the pastebin for the kernel logs is http://paste.ubuntu.com/235360/
[08:25] <Beyecixramd> n2diy: i dont have a PS3.
[08:25] <n2diy> Bob_Dole: 10-4
[08:25] <owh> ActionParsnip1: The actual problem I'm trying to solve is to get a cron-job to send a notification message to me, I figured that Update-Manager was already doing that - finding it seems not trivial :(
[08:25] <Beyecixramd> n2diy: also, the consoles don't run "OSes" but "firmwares"
[08:26] <jacquesdupontd> wich version of ubuntu do you use drew212
[08:26] <drew212> jacquesdupontd: i get the blinking caps and scroll lock kernel failure
[08:26] <ActionParsnip1> owh: cron your own job, i have
[08:26] <drew212> jacquesdupontd: jaunty, 32bit
[08:26] <owh> ActionParsnip1: How do you get it to talk to you - other than using email?
[08:26] <ActionParsnip1> owh: my system cleans, updates and dist-upgrades every day at 5am
[08:26] <ActionParsnip1> owh: email, but then it appears on my g1 phone
[08:26] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, ok thx i'm checking for ya
[08:26] <n2diy> Beyecixramd: well, the OS is on the firmware, and you can flash it.
[08:27] <drew212> jacquesdupontd: thank you very much! this has had me boggled for quite some time...
[08:27] <Beyecixramd> n2diy: there's no need to do it in the PS3. Sony supports other OSes aswell
[08:27] <owh> ActionParsnip1: The cron job I need to get output from checks to tell me if there are messages waiting in the mail queue, but sending out the alert for email doesn't help :)
[08:27] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, im here anyway we gonna find a solution
[08:27] <owh> jacekowski: A solution for what?
[08:28] <drew212> jacquesdupontd: thanks much =)
[08:28] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, do you use airplus ?
[08:28] <drew212> owh: for my wireless card problem
[08:28] <drew212> yes
[08:28] <owh> drew212: What card?
[08:28] <n2diy> Beyecixramd: ok, have a link to any hacks? I've passed up a few PS devices at yard sales, because I didn't think I could "play" wih them.
[08:28] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, ok that's normal then
[08:28] <drew212> owh: DWL-650+
[08:28] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, im gonna explain to you
[08:28] <drew212> jacquesdupontd: ok
[08:29] <Beyecixramd> n2diy: dont think so. but google's your friend
[08:29] <n2diy> Beyecixramd: 10-4 on google, thanks.
[08:29] <Onyx> I'm getting an error when I start k3b -- "No CD/DVD writer found"... indeed, I do have one, and fstab looks good.  Is there another reason k3b would be mad at me?
[08:29] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, question, why do you use airplus as it is natively supported ?
[08:29] <ActionParsnip1> drew212: can you please provide the output of: sudo lshw -C network   in a pastebin
[08:29] <Beyecixramd> Onyx: maybe the device isn't working right
[08:30] <Beyecixramd> Onyx: have you tried with other program (let's say) brasero?
[08:30] <ActionParsnip1> drew212: what is printed on the case of the device means nearly nothing in Linux. Its the wireless chip we need to know
[08:30] <jacquesdupontd> true
[08:30] <drew212> well i cant plug the card in without causing the computer to crash
[08:30] <jacquesdupontd> ActionParsnip1, i think about a module problem
[08:30] <Onyx> Beyecixramd: Same issue with Brasero... the device was working fine about a week ago, so I don't know why that would be happening so suddenly
[08:31] <bazhang> drew212, you are hotplugging the card?
[08:31] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, why do you use airplus as it's not needed ?
[08:31] <drew212> hotplugging?
[08:31] <ActionParsnip1> drew212: is it PCI or USB?
[08:31] <drew212> it is an airplus because it was the card i used before i DLed ubuntu
[08:31] <Beyecixramd> Onyx: it could be broken.
[08:31] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, you should first remove airplus
[08:31] <ActionParsnip1> drew212: or PCMCIA?
[08:32] <indus> hi can someone tell me,if deleting existing /boot and moving it to another partition,then pointing grub to it will boot system fine?
[08:32] <drew212> PCMCIA
[08:32] <Ileden> I can't get the open-source "ati" driver to load using xorg.conf. An Ubuntu guide claims this should be possible for my card. How do I troubleshoot the issue?
[08:32] <bazhang> drew212, you cant hotplug those cards
[08:32] <drew212> jacquesdupontd: how do i "Remove" it?
[08:32] <ActionParsnip1> drew212: ok, so what is your issue with teh device/
[08:32] <jacquesdupontd> ActionParsnip1, there's a pastebin
[08:32] <Onyx> Beyecixramd: Can you think of a software issue that it may be?
[08:32] <jacquesdupontd> ActionParsnip1, http://paste.ubuntu.com/235360/
[08:32] <drew212> ActionParsnip1: every time i plug it in, it causes the computer to freeze, and the scroll and caps lock lights blink...
[08:32] <jimd> indus: I would re-install grub (# grub-install /dev/sda, for example) just to be sure.
[08:33] <avionlux> I have flash 10, and it works fine, except when I go into full screen, then it skips and stutters. Anybody know a fix?
[08:33] <jimd> The grub boot loader code does need to find its map  file.
[08:33] <indus> jimd: ya iam asking same,if after moving the partition and reinstall grub will it work fine?
[08:33] <ActionParsnip1> drew212: you could try stopping hal, then inserting, then restarting hal. could help
[08:33] <Beyecixramd> Onyx: hmm... maybe apt removed the appropiate drivers, i dont know anything else
[08:33] <drew212> ActionParsnip1: hal?
[08:33] <indus> !hal
[08:34] <Beyecixramd> avionlux: flash works bad in Linux, it's the truth
[08:34] <indus> hardware abstraction layer  www.wikipedia.org/hal
[08:34] <Beyecixramd> avionlux: flash wasn't designed for Linux, but for Windows
[08:34] <jacquesdupontd> !services
[08:34] <jacquesdupontd> !service
[08:34] <avionlux> is there no fix at all beyecixramd. It was working ok for me in 8.10.
[08:34] <drew212> ActionParsnip1: how do i go about stopping hal?
[08:34] <indus> drew212: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hal
[08:35] <jacquesdupontd> ActionParsnip1, i'll need you if you'll have time to know a bit about what service i could stop on start
[08:35] <indus> but its being replaced by something else
[08:35] <drew212> ActionParsnip1: even if i start the computer with the card plugged in, it happens...
[08:35] <Beyecixramd> avionlux: Probably you were using an older version. try downgrading, or use Gnash instead
[08:35] <Beyecixramd> Gnash, IMO works even worse
[08:36] <avionlux> i'll probably just leave it alone if there isn't any known way to fix it
[08:36] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, that's why he told you to try to stop hal
[08:36] <neptunepink> HALP! Blender gives me this: http://www.andgasm.net/whut/attack.jpg
[08:36] <ActionParsnip1> drew212: sudo  /etc/init.d/hal stop
[08:36] <thejackal221> does anyone know of any good parental controls for linux
[08:36] <ActionParsnip1> drew212: insert card
[08:36] <Beyecixramd> avionlux: well, try to downgrade... other than that, i dont know
[08:36] <ActionParsnip1> drew212: sudo  /etc/init.d/hal restart
[08:36] <Beyecixramd> thejackal221: maybe good parental controls will be available as plugins for firefox
[08:37] <avionlux> ok, thanks. That is pretty much the same thing that was said on the web.
[08:37] <drew212> command not found
[08:37] <ActionParsnip1> drew212: sounds to me like you need some extra options for your pcmcia slot
[08:37] <ActionParsnip1> drew212: or the card is faulty
[08:37] <thejackal221> thanks I'll check that out
[08:37] <bazhang> thejackal221, dansguardian and ff plugin
[08:37] <avionlux> I appreciate the help. *smiles*
[08:37] <thejackal221> bazhang thanks
[08:37] <drew212> the card worked before i installed ubuntu...
[08:37] <Pensacola> is it possible to boot the graphical installer from a harddisk, say something like /boot/newinstall
[08:37] <Onyx> Beyecixramd: Very odd... I just had to pull the cables and plug them back in, and it's working like a champ... thanks for making me think along hardware lines :)
[08:37] <jacquesdupontd> ActionParsnip1, i would say pcmcia
[08:38] <bazhang> drew212, what chipset for the card
[08:38] <Pensacola> I'm following the tutorial, but still don't know which files to copy
[08:38] <Beyecixramd> Onyx:  =)
[08:38] <drew212> ActionParsnip1: the terminal gives me an error, saying the command is not found...
[08:38] <drew212> bazhang: i have no idea...
[08:38] <Kalamansi> ubutu is donating free shipping ubuntu cd.do they donate laptop too? hehehe
[08:38] <bazhang> Kalamansi, no
[08:38] <Onyx> Guess I've got tiny gnomes yanking on the backs of my cables :)
[08:38] <Beyecixramd> Kalamansi: LOL
[08:39] <Beyecixramd> Onyx: tiny KDEs ;)
[08:39] <Onyx> lol
[08:39] <Kalamansi> Beyecixramd just trying any luck
[08:39] <Kalamansi> ehehe
[08:39] <drew212> ActionParsnip1: is that command you gave me wrong?
[08:39] <bazhang> drew212, try lsusb in terminal
[08:39] <DougM> Hey everyone
[08:39] <drew212> baz i cant plug the card in without it crashing...
[08:40] <bazhang> drew212, if that does not find it then lspci
[08:40] <ActionParsnip1> drew212: can you please provide the output of:  uname -c
[08:40] <ActionParsnip1> oops
[08:40] <ActionParsnip1> lsb_release -c
[08:40] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, you could note those command and try it in recovery mode for example
[08:40] <jacquesdupontd> exemple
[08:40] <bazhang> drew212, this card has never worked then
[08:40] <drew212> lsb_release -c yeiles jaunty
[08:40] <drew212> yeilds*
[08:41] <drew212> bazhang: the card worked perfectly fine before ubuntu
[08:41] <bazhang> drew212, with ubuntu
[08:41] <drew212> bazhang: no... it hasn't
[08:41] <drew212> ActionParsnip1: restarting in safe mode will make the commands work?
[08:42] <drew212> bazhang: http://paste.ubuntu.com/235360/
[08:42] <bazhang> drew212, well you need to find out the chipset, pcmcia cards are very problematic, I have two or three that I cannot use at all with Ubuntu
[08:42] <Beyecixramd> drew212: safe mode? are you talking about ubuntu? i didnt konw such a think existed in ubuntu
[08:42] <Beyecixramd> thing*
[08:42] <jacquesdupontd> pcmcia is errr berk
[08:42] <drew212> Beyecixramd: yes, if you hit delete before ubuntu loads
[08:42] <ActionParsnip1> drew212: possibly, linux gives no sla or garuntees
[08:43] <drew212> run those two codes by me again... im restarting in safe mode...
[08:43] <bazhang> lsusb lspci
[08:43] <ActionParsnip1> drew212: /etc/init.d/hal stop
[08:43] <ActionParsnip1> drew212: insert device
[08:44] <ActionParsnip1> drew212: sudo /etc/init.d/hal start
[08:44] <jacquesdupontd> sudo
[08:44] <jacquesdupontd> hehe ok
[08:44] <ActionParsnip1> drew212: then run: lspci; lsusb      as bazhang says
[08:44] <ActionParsnip1> jacquesdupontd: if its root recovery console it won't need sudo ;)
[08:44] <MT-> How can I make it so when a user creates a file, teh uid is the same as the parent?
[08:44] <drew212> ActionParsnip1: root with networking or just root shell prompt?
[08:45] <ActionParsnip1> drew212: root is sufficient
[08:45] <bazhang> drew212, it will not boot with the card in? what options are you using
[08:45] <MT-> if possible
[08:45] <jacquesdupontd> ActionParsnip1, oh sorry didn't knew you were talking about the recovery mode
[08:45] <DougM> Gimp wont open by clicking on my desktop icon so im opening it in terminal by typing "gimp" it loads up fine but i do get an error saying "gtk-WARMING **: Error parsing gtk-icon-sizes string: 'panel-menu-24,24 panel=20,20 gtk-large-toolbar=24,24' /usr/local/lib/gimp/2.0/plug-ins/print: error while loading shared libraries: li bgimpprint.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory  (gimp:11611): LibGimpBase-WARNING **:
[08:45] <DougM>  gimp: wire_read() error
[08:45] <DougM> does anyone know what might be causing that
[08:45] <jacquesdupontd> ActionParsnip1, then it's stopping hal without sudo inserting device starting ubuntu and then starting hal that you wants him to do ?
[08:45] <Beyecixramd> DougM: it's normal, you can ignore that error
[08:46] <drew212> bazhang: it will boot, it just freezes partway through...
[08:46] <bazhang> drew212, not using any bootoptions then?
[08:46] <DougM> Beyecixrand: oh ok.. do you have any idea why it wont open by clicking on the desktop icon?  It only opens through terminal then when i close terminal it will close aswell
[08:46] <jacquesdupontd> ActionParsnip1, i meant stopping hal in recovery mode
[08:46] <DougM> sorry im new to this
[08:46] <drew212> bazhang: shortly after the card's power light blinks(about 6-10 times) it freezes
[08:46] <drew212> bazhang: not any that i know of...
[08:46] <Beyecixramd> right click and see what does exactly launch the icon
[08:47] <drew212> bazhang: i dont even know what boot options are... im quite new to ubuntu...
[08:47] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, have you tried some drivers ?
[08:47] <ActionParsnip1> jacquesdupontd: yeah, you can use sudo if you want. its not needed though as s/he will be root, so its not needed
[08:47] <drew212> im a he =P
[08:47] <jacquesdupontd> ActionParsnip1, but i was just wondering you were putting sudo in your advice for restarting hal :)
[08:47] <jacquesdupontd> ActionParsnip1, nevermind
[08:47] <bazhang> !bootoptions > drew212
[08:48] <Kartagis> LANG=en sudo chmod -r 0757 _temp/ / chmod: cannot access `0757': No such file or directory <---- why do I get that? syntax is correct
[08:48] <ActionParsnip1> DougM: try:   ln -s `which gimp` $HOME/Desktop/tryme
[08:48] <Kalamansi> how to install winxp dual boot in ubuntu
[08:48] <jacquesdupontd> ubottu is really perfect
[08:48] <bazhang> jacquesdupontd, drivers wont be the issue right now, he is trying to discover the chipset
[08:48] <Beyecixramd> ubottu: LOL
[08:48] <jacquesdupontd> bazhang, true
[08:48] <Beyecixramd> =)
[08:48] <bazhang> Kalamansi, easier if you install windows first
[08:49] <ActionParsnip1> Kalamansi: install xp first leaving unpartitioned space, then install ubuntu into the free space, grub will sort out the dual boot at insall time for you
[08:49] <jacquesdupontd> Kalamansi, did you installed windows before ?
[08:49] <drew212> no, i dont use any boot options...
[08:49] <DougM> ActionParsnip1: Nothing happens when it ype that
[08:49] <baobao> becareful though, grub can easily screw up your system if you uninstall linux
[08:49] <Kartagis> !dual | Kalamansi
[08:49] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, make commands in recovery mode and find chipset then we can go further
[08:49] <Kartagis> !dual boot| Kalamansi
[08:50] <ActionParsnip1> DougM: good, now look on your desktop, is there a link?
[08:50] <drew212> which command gives me chipset?
[08:50] <baobao> because grub install on your linux partition, if you delete linux, you won't boot anything up
[08:50] <ActionParsnip1> drew212: sudo lshw -C network
[08:50] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, in recovery mode dont forget
[08:50] <Beyecixramd> !help
[08:51] <jacquesdupontd> ActionParsnip1, no need for sudo haha :)
[08:51] <bazhang> Beyecixramd, ??
[08:51] <DougM> ActionParsnip1: yeah there is a link there now it has a little lock on the top right and when i try to open it it says the link tryme is broken
[08:51] <Beyecixramd> bazhang: I wsa testing the bot
[08:51] <ActionParsnip1> jacquesdupontd: its habit
[08:51] <Beyecixramd> was*
[08:51] <bazhang> Beyecixramd, /msg ubottu please
[08:51] <jacquesdupontd> ActionParsnip1, i know i know it was a joke
[08:51] <Beyecixramd> ok
[08:51] <drew212> where is chipset listed?
[08:51] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, you'll see it dont worry
[08:51] <ActionParsnip1> DougM: ok then delete that, i assumed 'gimp' was the thing to run from terminal to get gimp running, am i wrong?
[08:52] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, just after typing the command the list won't be long
[08:52] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, but you have to have the card inserted
[08:52] <drew212> how do i scroll up?
[08:52] <drew212> all i can see is the end of the text =P
[08:52] <DougM> ActionParsnip1: yeah thats what i type to open gimp.. but for some reason I cant click on the desktop icon to open it.. it comes up in my taskbar saying its loading but then just dissapears
[08:53] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, won't be needed, oh you're on an another computer ?
[08:53] <drew212> yes =P
[08:53] <DougM> ActionParsnip1: if i type gimp in terminal it opens fine but i really dont want to have to go into terminal every time i want to open gimp
[08:53] <ActionParsnip1> DougM: if you run: cd ~; ls -a    do you see a folder named .imp or similar?
[08:53] <DougM> ActionParsnip1: hold on let me check
[08:53] <ActionParsnip1> .gimp
[08:53] <drew212> debugging while finding the problem is way to hard on the same puter
[08:53] <jacquesdupontd> shit + page up
[08:54] <drew212> well i cant see chipset... the top half the the output is cut off
[08:54] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, shift + page up
[08:54] <jacquesdupontd> should do the trick
[08:54] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, does it ?
[08:54] <DougM> ActionParsnip1: nah there is nothing like .imp
[08:55] <iceroot> is there a way to see with top for something similar, which process is running on which cpu?
[08:55] <iceroot> -f
[08:55] <drew212> jacquesdupontd: its not showing chipset...
[08:55] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, card inserted ? that's weird
[08:55] <ActionParsnip1> DougM: or .gimp ?
[08:55] <lexxy_> hello
[08:55] <drew212> yeah...
[08:55] <drew212> it shows other stuff though...
[08:56] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, then lspci
[08:56] <drew212> vendor: Wireless Network CardBus PC card
[08:56] <lexxy_> need help with rhythm box plugin can someone help
[08:56] <DougM> ActionParsnip1: yeah i see gImp-2.2 and a gimp-2.6
[08:56] <ActionParsnip1> DougM: rename both, then run gimp
[08:57] <DougM> ActionParsnip1: what should i rename them to?
[08:57] <DougM> ActionParsnip1: anything?
[08:57] <drew212> 3com corporation 3c905c-TX/TX-M
[08:57] <ActionParsnip1> DougM: something different
[08:57] <ActionParsnip1> DougM: but make sure you can rename them back
[08:57] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, ok that's it
[08:57] <drew212> that is listed as ethernet controller
[08:57] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, im gonna search
[08:57] <ActionParsnip1> DougM: something like gimp-2.2_old  is intelligent
[08:57] <DougM> ActionParsnip1: ok.. this may sound bad. but how do i rename haha? sorry iv only had Ubuntu running for like 10 hours
[08:58] <iceroot> DougM: mv gimp-2.2 gimp-2.2-backup && mv gimp-2.6 gimp-2.6-backup
[08:58] <Beyecixramd> ActionParsnip1: right click, rename
[08:58] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, oh then that may not the one
[08:58] <ActionParsnip1> DougM: mv ~/.gimp-2.2 ~/.gimp-2.2_old
[08:58] <drew212> there is also a networking controller
[08:58] <Beyecixramd> ActionParsnip1: sorry, wrong xD
[08:58] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, be
[08:58] <ActionParsnip1> Beyecixramd: nar gui is for losers
[08:58] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, chipset ?
[08:58] <drew212> Texas instruments ACX 100 22MBPS wirless interface
[08:58] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, that's it this time
[08:58] <AdvoWork> Morning. Is there any way to rename a user account? Just the login name? Its greyed out in user accounts
[08:58] <drew212> are you sure?
[08:59] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, we are never sure about anything but i think yes lemme search
[08:59] <ActionParsnip1> DougM: mv is the rename cammand in uniix
[08:59] <drew212> that is what lshw shows as product
[08:59] <drew212> not chipset
[08:59] <Beyecixramd> DougM: rename/move command
[08:59] <DougM> ActionParsnip1: alright cool..  just renammed them
[09:00] <ActionParsnip1> DougM: ok now when you rerun gimp, you will get stock settings. if this works we know your settings were bad, if not then the app is bad
[09:00] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, now you may need ndiswarpper to install it
[09:00] <Beyecixramd> i got to go now, see you later, guys
[09:00] <iceroot> AdvoWork: man usermod will tell you all you need
[09:00] <ActionParsnip1> DougM: we renamed the profile so the settings are not gone and can easily be rnamed back
[09:00] <drew212> i'm pretty sure i have that installed...
[09:01] <iceroot> AdvoWork: i am not sure if you also have to rename the homedir
[09:01] <ActionParsnip1> DougM: idiots will tell you to simply delete then the person being helped is like "where are my settings" and they would be gone, hence the rename
[09:01] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, it makes you able to install windows drivers
[09:01] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, you need .inf files
[09:01] <ActionParsnip1> DougM: does gimp now work as you like?
[09:01] <jacquesdupontd> !ndiswarpper
[09:01] <drew212> yeah i'm pretty sure ndiswrapper is installed...
[09:01] <DougM> ActionParsnip1: didnt work.. but in terminal i see gimpshop_2.2.11-1_i386.deb and gimpshop_202011_i386.deb.1 and the first one is in red
[09:01] <jacquesdupontd> oops
[09:01] <DougM> ActionParsnip1: Could htat have something to do with it?
[09:01] <jacquesdupontd> !ndiswrapper
[09:02] <ActionParsnip1> DougM: no, sounds like you have installed an app via deb file though
[09:02] <ActionParsnip1> !gimpshop
[09:02] <AdvoWork> iceroot, can i not leave the home dir the same or?
[09:02] <DougM> ubottu: thanks
[09:02] <DougM> ActionParsnip1: how can i delete those two gimpshop files?
[09:02] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, check the link and install it with ndiswrapper
[09:02] <ActionParsnip1> DougM: rm <filename>
[09:02] <iceroot> AdvoWork: i dont know, never renamed a user-account
[09:03] <DougM> ActionParsnip1: alright one second
[09:03] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, but having ndiswrapper installed already could be the problem also
[09:03] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, try to delete it before
[09:03] <drew212> uhh... how would i go about that?
[09:03] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, sudo apt-get --purge remove ndiswrapper
[09:04] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, maybe now the package is named differently i have to check
[09:04] <drew212> its ndiswrapper-common
[09:04] <AnActivist> Hello everyone I've been trying to set up Giver to transfer files to my laptop over lan
[09:04] <drew212> im getting it now...
[09:04] <jacquesdupontd> yes or ndiswrapper-utils or ndiswrapper-utils-1.9
[09:04] <drew212> done...
[09:04] <AnActivist> I was able to transfer a whole video but now the connection doesn't work anymore
[09:05] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, now restart and plug the card to test what's happening
[09:05] <DougM> ActionParsnip1: yeah i deleted both of those and still not working.  I think i just might have to reinstall gimp
[09:05] <AnActivist> could someone explain to me how stfp works?
[09:05] <ActionParsnip1> DougM: i suggest: sudo apt-get --purge remove gimp; sudo apt-get --purge autoremove; sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get install gimp
[09:05] <drew212> just a sec...
[09:05] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, im back in a sec a go to drink water
[09:05] <DougM> ActionParsnip1: alright ill give that a shot.. thanks a lot for your help.  Really appreciate it
[09:05] <cmartin0> i made a udev rule in /etc/udev/rules.d/ but it is not working. I need to use a usb device not being root
[09:06] <drew212> seems to be booting fine now =)
[09:06] <drew212> nope...
[09:06] <drew212> it just got farther than it usualy does =X
[09:06] <ActionParsnip1> DougM: np man
[09:06] <drew212> caps and scroll lock blink...
[09:07] <DougM> Y
[09:07] <jacquesdupontd> oops
[09:07] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, type a sudo apt-get remove --purge ndiswrapper*
[09:07] <cyberjorge> how do i install ireport in ubuntu?
[09:07] <ActionParsnip1> cmartin0: is it a usb storage device?
[09:07] <cyberjorge> using repository?
[09:07] <ActionParsnip1> !info ireport
[09:07] <drew212> with the star?
[09:08] <jacquesdupontd> yes
[09:08] <cmartin0> ActionParsnip1, usbtiny avr iscp programmer
[09:08] <cyberjorge> i use 8.10 intepid
[09:08] <ActionParsnip1> cyberjorge: its not in the standard repos so you will need a ppa
[09:08] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, it will remove all beginning by ndiswrapper
[09:08] <cmartin0> i can use eclipse to use the programmer not as root but running avrdude from the commandline i have to be root
[09:08] <Ademan> is there a simple way to rebuild /var/lib/dpkg/available ? dpkg keeps throwing an error about a parse error in it (it looks like a bunch of binary data got dumped in there) rather than trying to manually remove the faulty data, can i just rebuild the file?
[09:08] <ActionParsnip1> cmartin0: you can use    sudo -i
[09:09] <drew212> couldnt find package ndiswrapper*
[09:09] <cyberjorge> ActionParsnip1: i'm sorry but what do you mean by PPA, there's no linux version in the jaspereports dowload
[09:09] <ActionParsnip1> !ppa | cyberjorge
[09:09] <cmartin0> ActionParsnip1, point is to use a udev rule so i dont have to su or sudo
[09:10] <drew212> jacquesdupontd: what do you think now?
[09:10] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, it has something to do with acx
[09:10] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, im checking
[09:10] <drew212> alrite =)
[09:11] <cyberjorge> ActionParsnip1: sorry i'm too newbie for these especially building the source
[09:12] <ActionParsnip1> cyberjorge: just make sure you backup any and all files you edit so you can easily roll back
[09:12] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, it will takes me 5 minutes
[09:12] <cyberjorge> is there anywhere to get an ireport package with .sh installer?
[09:12] <drew212> jacquesdupontd: thats fine =)
[09:13] <DrMrHorse> i have hardy and jaunty partitions that both worked. jaunty still works, but now the hardy partition will not boot, freezes in recovery mode on a line about "generic cd-rom driver."  i can read and write to the partition.
[09:15] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, bad news 4   	 Matt Joiner  wrote on 2009-02-01:
[09:15] <jacquesdupontd> This bug still affects Intrepid (as of 2.6.27-11) & Jaunty (as of 2.6.28-6).
[09:15] <jacquesdupontd> Related issues (kernel panic and NetworkManager CPU problems) still exist on Intrepid and Jaunty.
[09:15] <drew212> for this card?
[09:15] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, it seems it's what's happening to you, im searching further
[09:15] <jacquesdupontd> sure
[09:15] <patricius_> does anybody now how well the latest stable ubuntu distro works with a docking station for Lenovo x200?
[09:15] <patricius_> *know
[09:15] <Tux-Panik> hug
[09:16] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, maybe updating package of acx foundable on soundforge will give you the link
[09:17] <drew212> updating the package of acx on soundforge?
[09:17] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, type : grep -n "ACX_RELEASE" acx_config.h
[09:17] <CodeWar> I ran update manager and it pulled over a new kernel 28-14 I have 28-13 currently installed. when it prompted me for menu.lst I accidentlly hit keep current.  Whats the right way to add this new kernel to menu.lst
[09:17] <drew212> do i need an internet connection? lol
[09:17] <drew212> that could be a minor problem
[09:17] <jacquesdupontd> no
[09:17] <anars> why does Ubuntu have several system loggers and cron daemons installed?
[09:18] <jacquesdupontd> i mean yes to update it drew212  but type the command first please
[09:18] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, i need to know the version of your acx
[09:18] <DougM> ActionParsnip1: hey i un-installed gimp using sud apt-get --purge remove gimp and sudo apt-get --purge autoremove then i typed cd ~; ls -a and the gimp files i renamed are still there.  I went to delete them using rm .gimp-2.6_old but its saying  rm: cannont remove '.gimp-2.2_old': Is a directory
[09:19] <DougM> ActionParsnip1: how do i delete those two files
[09:19] <drew212> its not showing anything...
[09:19] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, then i have the only and last solution for you check that page and please come back to me to tell me if it worked http://acx100.sourceforge.net/
[09:19] <anars> DougM: use 'rm -r <dir>'
[09:19] <jimd> DougM: rm -fr ./.gimp-...
[09:20] <DougM> cool thanks guys ill try that
[09:20] <drew212> let me restart...
[09:20] <jimd> -r is recursive and -f is "force" (don't bother asking me silly questions)
[09:21] <Flannel> jimd, DougM: there's almost never a reason you want to force it.
[09:21] <drew212> it says there is no such file or directory for the last command you sent me...
[09:21] <anars> agreed. and if there is, you better be sure you want to delete it.
[09:22] <anars> why does Ubuntu have several system loggers and cron daemons installed?
[09:22] <DougM> Flannel: ok.. so i should usually use 'rm -r <dir>'?
[09:22] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, i gave you a link
[09:22] <jimd> Sadly, as a professional sysadmin, I usually want to force it. :)
[09:22] <DougM> haha
[09:22] <jimd> It becomes a reflex after awhile.
[09:23] <drew212> alrite, well im exhausted for tonight, ill check back tomorrow...
[09:23] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, ok then bookmark the page it's your last chance
[09:23] <drew212> yeah, if not, im buying a supported card pronoto =P
[09:24] <bluepencil> Hi guys, is there an easy way to transfer files from on Jaunty machine to another Jaunty machine?
[09:25] <jacquesdupontd> drew212, hehe would be a better choice but im sure you can make it work i read a bit and it's makeable
[09:25] <jimd> rsyn -e ssh local_files other_system:/target_directory
[09:25] <jimd> rsync even.
[09:25] <DougM> its so weird after re installing gimp im still not able to open it by clicking on the icon.. i have to go through terminal
[09:25] <jimd> bluepencil: the rsync can work in either direction, too.
[09:25] <DougM> anyone have any other ideas why this might be happening?
[09:26] <jimd> DougM: Presumably the icon is pointing at the old version/location.  Try right clicking on it and looking that the icon's properties.
[09:27] <DougM> jimd: ok.. i did that now what am i looking for in the preferences?
[09:27] <mint> Hey, i have a very bad gpu, could you guys point me to a version that would work for me
[09:27] <jimd> Preferences?  I think you mean properties
[09:27] <DougM> jimd: sorry im really new to ubuntu
[09:27] <DougM> yeah properties haha
[09:28] <jimd> Look at where the command line is.  Paste or type the same thing you'd type at your command line into that field in the properies.
[09:28] <jimd> See?
[09:29] <DougM> jimd: ok so under command it says gimp-2.6 %U but when i open terminal i type 'gimp' to open it.  so im replacing whats in there now with just 'gimp'?
[09:29] <jimd> BTW: that works pretty much the same on Windows and MacOS .. the properties dialogs look a little different but the gist of it is the same.
[09:29] <jimd> DougM: I'd try that.  It should work.
[09:29] <DougM> jimd: alright one sec let me try
[09:30] <mint> hello?
[09:30] <rayno_b> Hello there - I have an Ubuntu server acting as a gateway for the internet.  Now at the moment, one user can use all of the bandwitdh of the internet which obviously stops all other users from accessing the internet at good speeds.  How can I control bandwidth per user (and maybe per port)?
[09:30] <DougM> jimd: wow your good.. iv been trying for like two hours to get that to work haha.  Thanks a lot i really appreciate it.
[09:30] <jimd> right click is your friend
[09:31] <DougM> haha
[09:31] <DougM> good to know
[09:31] <jimd> Under most OSes if something doesn't seem to work right when you click on it, try right clicking or holding down funny "command" or "alt" keys while you click.
[09:31] <richardcavell> jimd: middle click is a reasonable acquaintance
[09:31] <mint> do i have voice (sorry for being anxious) windows crashed on me again
[09:32] <mint> and im not reinstalling it
[09:32] <jimd> mint: we see you.
[09:32] <jimd> mint: your voice is working here.
[09:32] <shampoo> Hi, i have a question, i want to find out if an xml-file has the right (utf-8) encoding, any idea how i do this?
[09:32] <richardcavell> mint: but apparently your windows is not
[09:32] <shampoo> file --mime only tells me  application/xml
[09:32] <mint> hello ?
[09:32] <mint> Hello
[09:32] <jimd> richardcavell: middle click is somewhat customary to UNIX/Linux.  It's fairly rare to Windows and practically unheard of on the Mac.
[09:33] <shampoo> hello mint
[09:33] <mint> omfg people
[09:33] <mint> :)
[09:33] <richardcavell> jimd: Hey, the Mac is only just getting used to right-click, never mind middle click
[09:33] <jimd> mint: It's usually best to just jump right into your question rather than going for a lot of greetings in IRC.
[09:34] <mint> well i couldnt see any text
[09:34] <makey> openbox rocks
[09:34] <jimd> The latest Mac laptops still only have a single mouse button.  In fact on the recent one's I've seen the whole glidepoint is a big mouse button.
[09:35] <shampoo> no idea? anyone :D?  *sigh*
[09:35] <mint> ok, so is there a ubuntu distro/version that will work with my old gpu/monitor
[09:35] <jimd> mint: If you can't see text then you have a different problem.  We can certainly see yours.
[09:35] <mint> no i see now
[09:35] <richardcavell> jimd: Apple made a mouse that could recognize right clicks, but they didn't give it separate buttons.  They just made one big button that can recognize the right and left hand sides being touched
[09:35] <DougM> jimd: yeah but the bottom right corner of the trackpad is still a right click
[09:35] <rayno_b> Hello there - I have an Ubuntu server acting as a gateway for the internet.  Now at the moment, one user can use all of the bandwitdh of the internet which obviously stops all other users from accessing the internet at good speeds.  How can I control bandwidth per user (and maybe per port)?
[09:35] <jimd> mint: Try it.
[09:35] <mint> it doesnt work atleast the newest
[09:36] <richardcavell> rayno_b: can the others access the Internet at all?
[09:36] <mint> and i have few cds i dont want to waste them with trial and error
[09:36] <jimd> DougM: I think that may be a preference setting.  My friends all use [Command] (clover-key) to achieve a "right" click.
[09:36] <DougM> jimd: yeah thats what i use on my iMac
[09:36] <rayno_b> richard: everyone can see the internet fine yes, but if one user downloads something at really high speeds, it sometimes stops the internet for the rest of the users.
[09:37] <richardcavell> rayno_b: is it one user in particular or just whoever is downloading?
[09:37] <v4us> Hi. I have a problem with ALSA: My mic stop works? after kernel updating. I reinstal Alsa,. Any ideas?
[09:37] <jimd> mint: perhaps you could be a bit more specific.  What part doesn't work?
[09:37] <GarbledScreenAft> Ooops! I am using Jaunty and in Compiz settings ticked "blur windows" and not everything is as ghostly black rectangles. Please could someone point me as to how I can reboot and change this blur setting off even from the console. I have already reboot and tried "xfix" but to no avail. All I can do is alt-SysRq,R,E and Ctrl-alt_del to reboot once it has got to the desktop since nothing is ledgible.
[09:37] <rayno_b> richard: this is the case for everyone.
[09:38] <mint> graphics
[09:38] <mint> i have a VERY old monitor and gpu is crap
[09:38] <rayno_b> richard: I've read up on QoS.  It seems I should be doing something like QoS or something called "Traffic shaping"?
[09:38] <richardcavell> v4us: run alsamixer from command line and unmute anything that's muted
[09:38] <richardcavell> rayno_b: yes that's right
[09:39] <jimd> mint: there's only been one juncture that I recall where newer releases of X lost support for a number of older monitors.
[09:39] <richardcavell> rayno_b: it sounds like your gateway is functioning as it should by default
[09:39] <jimd> You'd have to revert to a pretty old Linux distro to use such an old version of X (the graphics subsystem).
[09:39] <mint> whats the command in xchat to give you my gpu hardware info
[09:39] <mint> that may help
[09:40] <richardcavell> mint: lspci | grep graphics
[09:40] <jimd> It would be far, far cheaper to buy a low-end video crd.
[09:40] <kraut> moin
[09:40] <jimd> Yeah you might try /msg -exec #ubuntu lspci | grep -i video
[09:41] <v4us> richardcavell: don't work
[09:41] <richardcavell> v4us: can you get into alsamixer?
[09:41] <jimd> But usually just issue the lspci | grep command in another xterm and paste it into the channel.
[09:41] <richardcavell> v4us: from a command line, within Terminal, type alsamixer
[09:42] <v4us> richardcavell: yes i can
[09:42] <richardcavell> v4us: and then go to capture
[09:43] <mint> my monitor is a little older than that
[09:43] <mint> http://www.lli.com/images/store/comp-networking/nec_monitor.jpg
[09:43] <richardcavell> v4us: press tab and you'll see
[09:43] <rayno_b> richard: can you point me to some instructions on the web to get "Traffic Shaping" sorted out?
[09:43] <richardcavell> rayno_b: mate, I'd just google it
[09:43] <rayno_b> richard: gmf
[09:43] <tavi_> how i change the resolution of the desktop?
[09:44] <DrZeus> hi all.  Question: when I send to print a document with cups-pdf, where is the pdf file created?  I mean, in which directory?
[09:44] <richardcavell> rayno_b: I just typed it into Synaptic and it's got something there
[09:44] <mint> what live cd should i get
[09:44] <richardcavell> What's gmf by the way?  Did he just insult me?  :/
[09:45] <ThreeNertia> So many acronyms these days, it's hard to keep up
[09:45] <rayno_b> richard: lol
[09:46] <rayno_b> richard: I would never insult anyone helping me :)  I was just making a type of *sigh* sound - I've been googling this all day and haven't found my answer yet.  That's where the 'gmf' came from :D
[09:46] <zhangjm> 我晕倒 怎么这么多人
[09:46] <DougM> zhangjm: is that really how you feel?
[09:47] <richardcavell> rayno_b: you can use trickle to shape bandwidth for users
[09:47] <n2diy> what happened to bogomips is lshw?
[09:47] <richardcavell> rayno_b: But there's shaperd in the repos
[09:47] <mint> this is my computer
[09:47] <mint> http://support.gateway.com/s/PC/5200Series/1008291/1008291nv.shtml
[09:48] <zhangjm> msg DougM ？
[09:48] <n2diy> ! bogomips
[09:48] <zhangjm> this where ？
[09:48] <rayno_b> richard: I'll check out trickle, thank you.
[09:48] <mint> Integrated Intel Graphics Media Accelerator (GMA) 900 with up to 128 MB shared DDR memory
[09:48] <richardcavell> zhangjm: What is your question?
[09:48] <morris1> after the ubuntu update from yesterday night, i don't have sound anymore :( i have a creative labs x-fi soundcard
[09:49] <mint> sooo is there a version i can run
[09:49] <zhangjm> Are there any girls ah？
[09:49] <richardcavell> zhangjm: I know enough Chinese to know that is not what you asked before
[09:49] <morris1> also, there are no proprietary drivers anymore in the manager, although i was using a proprietary driver for my soundcard before
[09:50] <morris1> did the update reset this somehow?
[09:50] <DrZeus> hi all.  Question: when I send to print a document with cups-pdf, where is the pdf file created?  I mean, in which directory?
[09:50] <Ademan> whoa, so gnome-terminal can display unicode, awesome
[09:50] <zhangjm> richardcavell: I'm sorry
[09:50] <Ademan> DrZeus: no idea honestly, but probably somewhere in /var
[09:50] <phreck> gentlemen
[09:50] <Ademan> behold
[09:51] <phreck> is there a mirror to download the ropositories for offline use?
[09:51] <DrZeus> Ademan: omG
[09:51] <Ademan> DrZeus: find it?
[09:51] <n2diy> phreck: why would you need to DL from a mirror?
[09:51] <jimd> mint: The integrated Intel graphics should be fine.
[09:52] <DrZeus> Ademan: made a find search from console.  Didn't threw anything
[09:52] <zhangjm> richardcavell: not have chinese people ?
[09:52] <jimd> mint: where do you live?  What city is near you?
[09:52] <GarbledScreenAft> Does anyone know the command at bash for the compiz configuration manager?
[09:52] <om26er> is there a way to install some components of ubuntu on on drive and some on other
[09:52] <mint> colorado
[09:52] <mint> denver
[09:52] <zhangjm>  not have chinese people ?
[09:53] <phreck> n2diy: well. im not in norht america. so i was hoping there was an asian mirror
[09:53] <Ademan> DrZeus: maybe  find "$HOME" /tmp /var -iname '*.pdf' 2>/dev/null  ?
[09:53] <redbull> hi
[09:53] <mint> everything is close in colorado, im tabernash (winterpark)
[09:53] <Ademan> hrm, well i guess you wouldn't want to search all of $HOME for pdfs, but it might be in your home dir
[09:53] <jimd> I know there's a pretty good users' group in Boulder .... but have you looked for one in Denver?
[09:53] <phreck> n2diy: i wouild like to get my 8.10 machine and my 9.04 up to date, note they do not have internet connections nor is there a way to get them online
[09:53] <redbull> hi all
[09:53] <richardcavell> zhangjm: this channel is in English
[09:53] <Ademan> !cn
[09:53] <richardcavell> zhangjm: what do you want help with?
[09:53] <mint> point me to an iso
[09:53] <mint> so i can burn it
[09:54] <om26er> is there a way to install ubuntu on two separate drives to shift the load(my ssd is very slow)
[09:54] <indus> all those language specific channels are just dead
[09:54] <jimd> It might be much easier to haul your system to an installfest or meet up with someone at a users' group to help you in person.
[09:54] <zhangjm> THANK YOU ,I SEE
[09:54] <n2diy> phreck: just download whatever yoy can find!? Ubuntu isn't based in North America.
[09:54] <phreck> n2diy: is there a central repo?
[09:54] <phreck> thats what im getting at
[09:54] <phreck> one spot with everything
[09:54] <DrZeus> Ademan: nothing.
[09:54] <zhangjm> BYE
[09:54] <richardcavell> om26er: yes you can
[09:54] <GarbledScreenAft> Does anyone know the command at bash for the compiz configuration manager?
[09:54] <n2diy> phreck: yes, it is pre-installed.
[09:54] <jimd> mint: There are a vast number of old liveCD you could try ... if you work at it you could probably still find an 8 or 9 year old KNOPPIX.
[09:55] <richardcavell> om26er: what components do you wish to install elsewhere?
[09:55] <mint> god this sucks
[09:55] <phreck> n2diy: what?
[09:55] <Ademan> DrZeus: sorry, no idea then...
[09:55] <DrZeus> Ademan: thanks anyway
[09:55] <phreck> the repoi isnt pre installed
[09:55] <mint> im stuck in a linux mint live cd running in comatability mode
[09:55] <om26er> richardcavell: i don't know but have on one drive and the other half on the other
[09:55] <n2diy> phreck: yes, the repos are  pre-installed.
[09:55] <phreck> that url might be
[09:55] <Ademan> DrZeus: there's a small #cups here on freenode though, someone in there might know
[09:55] <phreck> n2diy: no.
[09:56] <DrZeus> Ademan: I checked the cups web admin and shows me that those pdf jobs were cancelled
[09:56] <DrZeus> pretty odd
[09:56] <indus> GarbledScreenAft:have you installed compiz settings manager?
[09:56] <om26er> richardcavell: help me man
[09:56] <Ademan> DrZeus: yeah interesting, maybe something interesting would be in /var/log/cups ?
[09:56] <n2diy> phreck: they are here, and have been for years, maybe what you want isn't supported by Ubuntu?
[09:56] <eXp`iRc|42485> salve
[09:56] <jimd> mint: I'd still suggest looking around for a $20 (or less) PCI VGA adapter and trying it.
[09:57] <mint> wait, why
[09:57] <phreck> n2diy: youve completely missed the point of my question. Take note, im not some noob.
[09:57] <mint> i got vga
[09:58] <n2diy> phreck: sorry, what's the question?
[09:58] <duckwars> is there some very standard command line video conversion program I should know about? One that doesn't use much cpu?
[09:58] <Ademan> duckwars: mencoder will do whatever you need
[09:58] <zhangjm> Sorry! Here is what Channel ?
[09:58] <phreck> Is there a way to download all of the repositories for offline use.
[09:58] <duckwars> Ademan: I can just aptitude for that?
[09:59] <JEEBsv> duckwars: the versions in repos are VERY old normally
[09:59] <phreck> i know that apt already has them all linked and whatnot
[09:59] <Ademan> duckwars: yep, i think the package is just mplayer though
[09:59] <phreck> i was wondering if there was a central repo for everything.
[09:59] <duckwars> you mean it won't have the video conversion software?  just the player?
[09:59] <Ademan> duckwars: no, if you install the mplayer package it should also install mencoder
[09:59] <zhangjm> who can tell me ,what is chanel
[09:59] <erUSUL> duckwars: ffmpeg and mencoder both in the repos
[10:00] <indus> zhangjm: this is the ubuntu english channel.What is the problem?
[10:00] <duckwars> well i just did sudo apt-get install mencoder, that'll work?
[10:00] <zhangjm> indus: you are english people?
[10:00] <GarbledScreenAft> how do I run ~/.config/compiz/compizconfig in bash?
[10:01] <indus> zhangjm: iam indian
[10:01] <jimd> We speak English.  Many of us are Americans (from the U.S.)
[10:01] <baobao> i am chinese
[10:01] <zhangjm> indus: oh,tankyou
[10:01] <indus> jimd: i doubt that
[10:01] <baobao> many of us are chinese (from china)
[10:01] <indus> yeah
[10:01] <zhangjm> indus: I'M chinese
[10:02] <Ademan> phreck: have you checked this out? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Offline
[10:02] <jimd> indus: Why, because it's 2:00am on our Pacific coast?
[10:02] <indus> zhangjm: yes,do you have any ubuntu question we can help you with?
[10:02] <indus> jimd: i meant,i believe there are people from across the world here
[10:03] <zhangjm> indus: oh ,tank you .my english is very Poor ....
[10:03] <om26er> indus is there a way to install ubuntu on two different drives to shift the load
[10:03] <zhangjm> indus: but I very like
[10:03] <fuzzybunny69y> hey everyone I am having problems playing videos in Ubuntu Karmic Koala. It seems as though all the codecs and things are installed but videos are not playing in Totem VLC or mplayer
[10:03] <indus> zhangjm: no problem ,just ask the question
[10:03] <indus> fuzzybunny69y: try #UBUNTU +1
[10:03] <n2diy> ! ch | zhangjm
[10:04] <n2diy> whoops
[10:04] <indus> olol
[10:04] <Ademan> om26er: what are you trying to put on another drive? you could have /home on a different drive from your / easily, that way programs would be on one drive and your personal data on another
[10:04] <indus> happens
[10:04] <Ademan> n2diy: it's cn
[10:04] <Ademan> !cn
[10:04] <n2diy> ! cn | zhangjm
[10:04] <zhangjm> indus: my System no saslauthd  ,you kan tell me why ?
[10:04] <Ademan> whoa, ubottu doesn't like to repeat itself, that's awesome
[10:05] <ThreeNertia> That was kind of neat
[10:05] <zhangjm> ubottu: you no welcom me ? you let me out ?
[10:05] <Trijntje> Hi all. I want to get hibernation to work on my desktop PC. Do you guys have any pointers on where to start?
[10:05] <om26er> Ademan: yes home on one drive and also /boot
[10:05] <indus> zhangjm: you are most welcome here man, ubottu is a bot
[10:05] <GarbledScreenAft> Can ANYBODY help me? I need to edit compiz settings file in bash to disable "window blur? please someone.
[10:06] <n2diy> zhangjm:  you are welcome here.
[10:06] <indus> zhangjm: saslauthd ? can you be more specific/clear
[10:06] <om26er> Ademan: i am rebooting and starting the live cd then guide me ok?
[10:06] <zhangjm> indus: hehe but I very like ,I use it three years
[10:06] <jimd> zhangjm: ubottu is a "bot" (robot) which acts as an interface to shared knowlege ... also known as a "knowlegebases" robot.
[10:06] <Trijntje> !hibernate
[10:06] <Trijntje> !hibernation
[10:07] <ThreeNertia> !suspend
[10:07] <Guest14761> morning... nybody knos how can I know the value of hhtp_proxy variable, plz?
[10:07] <zhangjm> You are very enthusiastic  THANKS
[10:07] <Ademan> om26er: sure, it's pretty simple though, anyone in here should be able to help
[10:07] <indus> zhangjm: what is saslauthd?
[10:07] <zhangjm> I would like to go I thank you for your
[10:07] <zhangjm> indus:  it is server
[10:07] <indus> zhangjm: ok
[10:08] <dgeary2> Guest14761: echo $http_proxy
[10:08] <Joe_> I just rebooted after system update grabbed a new kernel... now my lvm (/home) isn't detected...
[10:08] <n2diy> zhangjm: 73
[10:08] <indus> zhangjm: bye then
[10:08] <Guest14761> @dgeary2 : thnaks, I missed the $ (as usual, lol)
[10:08] <q0_0p> where can i get mkinitrd?
[10:08] <GarbledScreenAft> !compiz
[10:08] <Ademan> Joe_: that sucks... could lvm be blacklisted?
[10:08] <zhangjm> tanks bye my Friend .I go ubuntu-cn
[10:08] <Joe_> ademan blacklisted?
[10:09] <indus> :) bye
[10:09] <n2diy> zhangjm: GL
[10:09] <Ademan> q0_0p: try and run the program, it should be installed but if it's not it will tell you how to install it
[10:09] <Ademan> Joe_: yeah the lvm module
[10:09] <q0_0p> it doesn't even suggest me
[10:10] <Ademan> Joe_: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[10:10] <yeahuyen> hi can someone tell me how much memory my system should be using? currently my computer is using nearly 40% of it's memory
[10:10] <Ademan> q0_0p: does it say command not found?
[10:10] <q0_0p> i've make menuconfig make install make modules and make modules_install
[10:10] <q0_0p> yes
[10:10] <q0_0p> Ademan, yes
[10:10] <Joe_> ademan not understanding what you mean... and choosing the old kernel from grub doesn't work either
[10:10] <Joe_> ademan that file doesn't exist
[10:11] <zhangjm> I am here, do not speak. I see you talk. OK ?
[10:11] <Ademan> Joe_: hrm wierd
[10:11] <GarbledScreenAft> okay, reformatting.... back to windowsXP...
[10:11] <om26er> Ademan: now i am on live cd
[10:11] <Q_bie> hai
[10:11] <n2diy> yeahuyen: how could we do that, if we don't have access to your computer? Study "top".
[10:11] <n2diy> 0
[10:11] <yeahuyen> well just a general idea of what memory usage is normal for my computer
[10:12] <yeahuyen> how much memory does your computer use? mine seems very slow after install 9.04
[10:12] <Ademan> q0_0p: do you have the initramfs-tools package?
[10:12] <q0_0p> probably not let me try to install it
[10:12] <om26er> Ademan: how do i partition
[10:12] <q0_0p> Ademan, yes i do
[10:13] <q0_0p> Ademan, i have installed it already
[10:13] <yeahuyen> n2diy, my computer seems to be using alot of memory for some reason
[10:13] <indus> GarbledScreenAft: hi
[10:13] <n2diy> h777777777777777777777777
[10:13] <indus> GarbledScreenAft: to configure compiz, install compizconf-settings manager
[10:13] <Ademan> q0_0p: oh sorry, it's mkinitramfs that's in that package, i believe it should do what you want though
[10:14] <Ademan> q0_0p: what are you trying to do?
[10:14] <q0_0p> i compiled new kernel
[10:14] <Ademan> om26er: it's something you select when installing
[10:14] <q0_0p> and i need initrd.img
[10:14] <om26er> Ademan: and i am installing
[10:14] <n2diy> yeahuyen: ok, in top type ctrl+M, that tells you what is using up your memory, I bet it is Firefox?
[10:14] <Trijntje> Hi all. I want to get hibernation to work on my desktop PC. Do you guys have any pointers on where to start?
[10:15] <yeahuyen> n2diy, in top? what is that?
[10:15] <q0_0p> Ademan, mkinitramfs does not install
[10:15] <indus> q0_0p: dont you need to make an initrd image after compiling?
[10:15] <n2diy> yeahuyen: open a terminal, and type in "top". Top is top.
[10:15] <Ademan> q0_0p: you don't have mkinitramfs? it should be in the initramfs-tools package that i mentioned earlier
[10:16] <q0_0p> indus, im' already done compiling
[10:16] <DrZeus> Ademan: i found the issue; it was needed to create a folder called PDF, go get the files there
[10:16] <q0_0p> Ademan, my bad
[10:16] <Joe_> ok... this is very bad
[10:16] <Ademan> DrZeus: ouch that sucks
[10:16] <yeahuyen> n2diy, firefox seems normal
[10:16] <indus> q0_0p: Ademan:what ademan says,i believe you have to run command mkinitrd
[10:16] <Ademan> DrZeus: but glad you fixed it
[10:17] <Joe_> fsck no succh file or directory.... /dev/lvm-raid/lvm0 after kernel upgrade and reboot... how can I fix this without losing everything?
[10:17] <DrZeus> Ademan: it was supposedly going to be created automatically, but never happened.  Anyway, problem fixed :D
[10:17] <Ademan> om26er: you will get to a section about disk partitioning, when you're there let me know
[10:17] <om26er> Ademan: am there
[10:17] <tavi_> avi@tavi-desktop:~/Desktop$ sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-185.18.29-pkg1.run
[10:17] <q0_0p> indus, there is no command mkinitrd
[10:17] <tavi_> Verifying archive integrity... OK
[10:17] <indus> q0_0p: bbrr
[10:17] <n2diy> yeahuyen: what's normal? You've never even run Top before? How much mem is it using?
[10:17] <tavi_> Uncompressing NVIDIA Accelerated Graphics Driver for Linux-x86 185.18.29........................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................
[10:17] <DrZeus> im leaving; bless to all of you
[10:17] <FloodBot3> tavi_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:17] <tavi_> nvidia-installer: Error opening log file '/var/log/nvidia-installer.log' for writing (Permission denied); disabling logging.
[10:17] <tavi_> tavi@tavi-desktop:~/Desktop$ sudo sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-185.18.29-pkg1.run
[10:17] <tavi_> Verifying archive integrity... OK
[10:17] <tavi_> Uncompressing NVIDIA Accelerated Graphics Driver for Linux-x86 185.18.29........................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................
[10:17] <indus> tavi_: use paste bin for long messages
[10:18] <tavi_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/235771/
[10:18] <Ademan> om26er: you'll want to select manual partitioning, and then hit next
[10:18] <om26er> Ademan: yes
[10:19] <yeahuyen> n2diy, i've never run top before..how mucgh memory is what using, firefox?
[10:19] <Ademan> om26er: you don't have any important data on any of the disks right? because they would be overwritten during this install
[10:19] <om26er> Ademan: np
[10:19] <indus> om26er: have backup?
[10:19] <pbn> Hi, since there is a security issue (DSA-1844-1), when will new 2.6.24 binary kernels be available for 8.04 LTS ?
[10:19] <om26er> indus: i have nothing on that drive
[10:19] <indus> k
[10:19] <indus> q0_0p: what kernel is this?
[10:20] <fotoflo> Invalid method in request \x80O\x01\x03   ---  im configuring apache SSL... any ideas?
[10:20] <q0_0p> 2.6.30.3
[10:20] <q0_0p> indus, 2.6.30.3
[10:20] <n2diy> yeahuyen: more than 40% is taxing, 50% will slow you down to a crawl, and 60% will stop you.
[10:20] <Atomic_> !it
[10:21] <Ademan> om26er: well i don't have the installer in front of me, but you should allocate about 100mb (maybe more) for /boot on your faster drive, /home on whatever drive you want, and / on the remaining drive, with about 2x ram size for swap
[10:21] <^cheeky> hi, everytime i sign in gmail it never loads in standard view i always have to use load basic html any way i can fix this .. iam using ubuntu 9.04
[10:21] <yeahuyen> n2diy, thats what i seem to be experiencing, and ive also noticed that my system is not using any swap space...is that normal?
[10:21] <indus> q0_0p: so finished compiling,now you need the initrd to mount it
[10:21] <indus> q0_0p: hmm
[10:21] <om26er> Ademan: ok
[10:22] <q0_0p> indus, i found initrd program
[10:22] <q0_0p> but not a jaunty though for older ubuntu
[10:23] <n2diy> yeahuyen: no, Firefox has memory leaks. Quit top, then type killall firefox, and restart firefox, and you should be ok for about 24 hours.
[10:23] <indus> q0_0p: arent you supposed to change into /boot and make the initrd?
[10:23] <yeahuyen> n2diy, already my system is using 51.2 %
[10:23] <indus> q0_0p: thats how i remember doing it once
[10:23] <GarbledScreenAft> indus: Hi, thank you for responding. Sorry I just left the room to take a deep breath. Please understand this. I can't make out ANYTHING when Ubuntu Jaunty loads the desktop. I can get to bash after reboot. install conpizconf-settings in bash just gives an error. I think I am in the root folder. I am in the *dark* here since I am not farmiliar with the name of the text configuration file.
[10:23] <cmcasper> My people of ubuntu
[10:23] <yeahuyen> n2diy, is it normal for my computer to not be using any swap space?
[10:23] <cmcasper> give me luck
[10:23] <Ademan> good luck cmcasper
[10:23] <q0_0p> indus, yes i go into /boot dir and to initrd
[10:23] <cmcasper> Im gonna present my server to my teachers
[10:23] <indus> GarbledScreenAft: type in bash metacity --replace
[10:23] <q0_0p> indus, i just lacked the program
[10:24] <cmcasper> thanks ademan ;)
[10:24] <q0_0p> indus, but i found the tar
[10:24] <indus> q0_0p: right now what files do u se in /boot?
[10:24] <q0_0p> kernels
[10:24] <q0_0p> and initrd image
[10:24] <indus> mkinitrd -o initrd.img-<exact kernel name>
[10:24] <q0_0p> indus, i got the rest from here
[10:25] <GarbledScreenAft> indus: Window manager error : Unable to open X display
[10:25] <indus> GarbledScreenAft: aah of course
[10:25] <n2diy> yeahuyen: how do you know it isn't using swap?
[10:25] <indus> GarbledScreenAft: just 1 sec hold on
[10:25] <yeahuyen> n2diy, by looking at my system monitor.
[10:25] <yeahuyen> n2diy, maybe something to do with the partitioning when i installed?
[10:25] <indus> GarbledScreenAft: can u press ALT-F7?
[10:26] <innomen> i change themes in gnome, but when i goto add remove programs and type something in the search field it's white on bright yellow (the default background color with the new text color) i can not find any indication of any background being yellow in appearances, and i don't know how to phrase that in such a way that google returns useful results heheh, any suggestions?
[10:26] <GarbledScreenAft> indus: yes I can, but it does nothing... :-(
[10:27] <indus> GarbledScreenAft: what is the output of glxinfo | grep render
[10:27] <indus> !paste | GarbledScreenAft
[10:27] <n2diy> yeahuyen: ok, not familiar with that. Yes, maybe you messed up something  partitioning, sure you set it up as swap?
[10:27] <yeahuyen> n2diy, yeah, pretty sure
[10:28] <n2diy> yeahuyen: is this a test box, or production box?
[10:28] <Aayush> how to change fonts of gtk entry widget
[10:28] <GarbledScreenAft> indus: Error : unable to open display
[10:28] <indus> GarbledScreenAft: hmm
[10:29] <indus> GarbledScreenAft: what graphics card do u have? was the display working before??
[10:29] <yeahuyen> n2diy, im not totally sure what you mean but i believe production box sounds rigt
[10:30] <yeahuyen> n2diy, ive been using ubuntu for a couple of years now
[10:30] <GarbledScreenAft> indus: EVERYTHING was working PERFECTLY before I clicked the compiz settings manager "blur window" setting. The it all just fell to pieces...
[10:30] <indus> GarbledScreenAft: ok thanks for that info
[10:30] <indus> GarbledScreenAft: i need a minute
[10:31] <indus> GarbledScreenAft: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:32] <indus> GarbledScreenAft: look for the line composite and type disabled
[10:32] <tavi_> helppppppppppppp
[10:32] <tavi_> problem whit screen
[10:32] <Johnny2> help meh to :D
[10:32] <Aayush> how to change fonts of gtk entry widget
[10:32] <indus> tavi_: hi
[10:32] <indus> tavi_: what is the problem
[10:32] <Johnny2> i recently installed ubuntu, how do i remove windows from my hard disk?
[10:32] <tavi_> i have 640*480 and i cant set other
[10:32] <Joe_> ademan I think the problem is really mdadm, it doesn't seem to build the raid arrays that go into the lvm automatically...
[10:32] <yeahuyen> n2diy, nm, my computer seems to be using some swap, but my memory usage is outrageous
[10:33] <innomen> Is there a way to edit the background color of a specific text input field in gnome? Or to tell what setting applies to a given field? Would the add remove box be considered not part of my user and thuis immune to changes in theme/color?
[10:33] <Trijntje> how can i hibernate my pc? sudo pm-hibernate gives no reaction. Via the applet it just locks the screen
[10:33] <Johnny2> How do I remove windows?
[10:33] <tavi_> pls someone help?
[10:34] <indus> GarbledScreenAft: try this rm -rf ~/.config/compiz  ( type exactly as i typed)
[10:34] <indus> GarbledScreenAft: or copy paste it
[10:34] <innomen> tavi_: you using a graphics card? drivers all squared away?
[10:34] <tavi_> a?
[10:34] <indus> GarbledScreenAft: this should work
[10:34] <tavi_> i use nvidia 8600
[10:34] <minimec> Hi. I am still using 2.6.28-11 on jaunty, as I wasn't able to get nvidia-glx-180 working with newer kernels. Did anyone of you have success with nvidia-glx-180 and 2.6.28-13 and 2.6.28-14?
[10:34] <tavi_> and the driver is on
[10:34] <Johnny2> How do I remove windows pretty please?
[10:34] <indus> !who | tavi_
[10:34] <Trijntje> Johnny2: if you boot the live cd, you can destroy the windows partition and than add the free space to your ubuntu partition
[10:34] <tavi_> on sistem hardware dirvers
[10:34] <innomen> tavi: did you do the whole restricted driver thing?
[10:34] <tavi_> say activated and on
[10:34] <indus> Johnny2: you cant 'remove' windows, you need to partition drive
[10:35] <tavi_> what?
[10:35] <Johnny2> Trijntje I downloaded ubuntu
[10:35] <Johnny2> how do i format the partition that windows is on?
[10:35] <innomen> tavi: one moment, i just did this let em refresh ym memory
[10:35] <raykid_> Johnny2, backup your data and then use gparted
[10:35] <indus> tavi_: you have installed driver from nvidia, its not recommended method, go to main menu>system>administration>hardware drivers
[10:35] <raykid_> Johnny2, on the liveCD just open a terminal and type sudo gparted
[10:35] <Trijntje> Johnny2: have you installed ubuntu already?
[10:35] <GarbledScreenAft> indus: Sudo nano /etc/x11/xorg.conf ... did not show any file in GNU NANO 2.0.9 ... will try next suggestion now.
[10:36] <Johnny2> raykid_ do you have any idea how i can backup my data to a usb? yeah i don't have the livecd i downloaded it and yes i am on ubuntu now
[10:36] <tavi_> and do what there?
[10:36] <indus> GarbledScreenAft: ya last suggestion just makes compiz use default config
[10:36] <tavi_> there is cheked
[10:36] <indus> tavi_: enable your driver
[10:36] <tavi_> is enabled
[10:36] <indus> tavi_: uncheck and recheck again
[10:36] <tavi_> i did that
[10:36] <raykid_> Johnny2, if your usb is big enough, just copy all data that you would like to have in the future to the usb
[10:36] <indus> tavi_: also, you need to uninstall the nvidia drivers to installed from nvidia site
[10:36] <tavi_> and notning
[10:37] <innomen> tavi: which driver? 180?
[10:37] <tavi_> i do not know
[10:37] <Joe_> could someone help me get mdadm to assemble the arrays properly on reboot.  I tried mdadm --examine --scan --config=mdadm.conf >> /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf but that doesn't seem to work either
[10:37] <kdub> can you use swap partitions on two different hard drives at the same time?
[10:37] <Johnny2> I don't know how to do it hahah are you sure there's no way to remove the windows partition?
[10:37] <tavi_> i have that from nvidia site
[10:37] <tavi_> i tried sh..... and say and error
[10:37] <n2diy> GarbledScreenAft: sudo shouldn't be capatialized.
[10:37] <raykid_> Johnny2, there is a way
[10:38] <innomen> tavi: it should say in the tab he just sent you to
[10:38] <Johnny2> :D
[10:38] <raykid_> Johnny2, just copy all valuable data elsewhere before
[10:38] <tavi_> ?
[10:38] <Myrtti> Johnny2: how did you install ubuntu in the first placE?
[10:38] <Myrtti> Johnny2: with wubi?
[10:38] <tavi_> who?
[10:38] <innomen> tavi: system>admin>hardware it should say to the right of the driver, 173 or 180 or something
[10:38] <Johnny2> I downloaded ubuntu
[10:39] <Johnny2> using windows
[10:39] <Johnny2> but windows is for noobs and i want rid
[10:39] <Myrtti> Johnny2: and burned it on a installation disk?
[10:39] <Johnny2> nope
[10:39] <Myrtti> and installed from that cd?
[10:39] <Johnny2> installed it using windows
[10:39] <tavi_> i do not have any hardware there
[10:39] <Johnny2> DOWNLOADED IT AND INSTALLED IT USING WINDOWS :P
[10:39] <innomen> ahhh, ok one moment
[10:39] <indus> GarbledScreenAft: try this rm -rf ~<username>/.config/compiz
[10:39] <Myrtti> Johnny2: in that case, removing windows is not adviceable
[10:39] <Johnny2> whywhy
[10:39] <Johnny2> i hate it
[10:40] <Johnny2> wasting my disk space
[10:40] <Trijntje> Johnny2: in that case you can't remove windows just yet. You have to 'update' your installation to a 'real one'
[10:40] <n2diy> Johnny2:  chill man.
[10:40] <Myrtti> Johnny2: because your ubuntu is inside the partition you have your windows on
[10:40] <Johnny2> oh god
[10:40] <Johnny2> :/
[10:40] <innomen> tavi: first try goingt o add remove and type in nvidia, see if there is an nvidia drive that says 180
[10:40] <theuros> hi to all .. can someone help me with vsftpd configuration ..i have a web folder with many subfolders in it .. how can i choose wich users can see wich folder ?
[10:40] <indus> !vsftpd
[10:41] <indus> !ftpd > indus
[10:41] <tavi_> innomen: what
[10:41] <tavi_> ?
[10:41] <innomen> tavi: you know where add remove programs is?
[10:41] <Johnny2> Ok so how can i get all my applications and files and ubuntu on a usb so i can format my harddrive then boot from usb and install it all back how it was?
[10:41] <indus> tavi_: could you tell us how you installed the nvidia drivers?
[10:41] <tavi_> yes
[10:41] <tavi_> well
[10:42] <tavi_> noh how i tried?
[10:42] <marenz_> hello there
[10:42] <innomen> inuds: he said he didn't, said the list was empty
[10:42] <indus> tavi_: in ubuntu,the preferred method of installing software is from add/remove (its under mainmenu)
[10:42] <Trijntje> Johnny2: copy your entire home map to the usb disk
[10:42] <Myrtti> Johnny2: you need to backup the relevant data, /etc and /home first and foremost, and then basically reinstall with a CD.
[10:42] <Pirate_Hunter> im having disk error but have no clue why since the only thing i did was restart the system, how can i go identifying the problem?
[10:42] <n2diy> Johnny2: grsync
[10:42] <innomen> tavi: so goto add remove programs and type in nvidia, tell me if you see drivers coming up in the list of avilable things to download
[10:42] <indus> GarbledScreenAft: hello? did it work? rm -rf ~username/.config/compiz
[10:43] <tavi_> innomen:  system administration synaptic?
[10:43] <indus> tavi_: innomen : its an nvidia card i believe?
[10:43] <indus> tavi_: ya sure aynaptic is fine too
[10:43] <Johnny2> ok so copy /home and /etc to usb then download the ubuntu installer and put that on usb then what
[10:43] <innomen> indus: yes, his is and so is mine i just fought what he's doing like yesterday heheh
[10:44] <Johnny2> bash: grsync: command not found
[10:44] <indus> innomen: tavi_ he was trying to run the nvidia installer from website
[10:44] <marenz_> i accidently hit reset while I was updating
[10:44] <NET||abuse> hey guys,, just outu of curiousity i decided to get the Penumbra collection, trying to install it and i have this problem in something else aswell, not coming to me what exactly,k, the installer throws a warning message to the console "canberra-gtk-module"  and complains of failing to load modules due to "wrong ELF class: eLFCLASS64" for various libgvfsdbus.so and 2 or 3 others
[10:44] <tavi_> X.Org X server -- NV display driver
[10:44] <tavi_> This driver for the X.Org X server (see xserver-xorg for a further description)
[10:44] <Pirate_Hunter> im having disk error but have no clue why since the only thing i did was restart the system, how can i go identifying the problem?
[10:45] <tavi_> is marked as installed
[10:45] <marenz_> now, doing dpgk --reconfigure -a is broken, exec format error for one package
[10:45] <Johnny2> ok so copy /home and /etc to usb then download the ubuntu installer and put that on usb then what
[10:45] <indus> tavi_: restart system for driver to work properly
[10:45] <tavi_> but
[10:45] <indus> tavi_: i need to know, did you install driver nvidia ........ run?
[10:45] <n2diy> Johnny2: you wanna talk to me, you gatta use my nick.
[10:45] <tavi_> are there a lot of things about nvidia that aren't cheked
[10:45] <Johnny2> sorry n2diy
[10:46] <innomen> tavi: yes, look for 180
[10:46] <n2diy> Johnny2: apt-get install grsync
[10:46] <GarbledScreenAft> indus: Well I fould a file called "config" in in /home/username/.config/compiz/compizconfig# ... should i delete this file?
[10:46] <tavi_> for examplu
[10:46] <n2diy> Johnny2: sudo apt-get install grsync
[10:46] <tavi_> example
[10:46] <indus> GarbledScreenAft: yes
[10:46] <tavi_> NVIDIA binary kernel module source
[10:46] <tavi_> This package builds the NVIDIA XFree86 4.x/X.Org binary kernel module neede
[10:46] <FloodBot3> tavi_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:46] <tavi_> not installed
[10:46] <indus> GarbledScreenAft: delete whole compiz folder
[10:46] <Myrtti> Johnny2, n2diy http://popey.com/blog/2009/07/16/migrating-from-wubi-to-full-ubuntu-install/ found this just now
[10:47] <indus> tavi_: you pasted before some nvidia installer
[10:47] <Johnny2> n2diy E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[10:47] <Johnny2> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root? sorry ima  noob
[10:47] <indus> tavi_: restart pc then come back
[10:47] <tash> can someone help me mount a usb hard drive in ubuntu, prudy please
[10:47] <indus> tash: does it show under lsusb command
[10:47] <n2diy> Myrtti: didn't realize he was playing with wubi.
[10:48] <tavi_> indus
[10:48] <indus> tavi_: yes?
[10:48] <indus> works?
[10:48] <tavi_> i have the driver
[10:48] <tavi_> downloaded from nvidia site
[10:48] <n2diy> Johnny, he may have another package manager open,? Synaptic?
[10:48] <tash> indus iĺl try it now
[10:48] <indus> tavi_: which driver? no dont install that one
[10:48] <tavi_> someone said to me to install that from recovery mode
[10:48] <Johnny2> whats wubi?
[10:48] <indus> tavi_: ok ill give you an idea> open synaptic, install nvidia-glx-180
[10:49] <Johnny2> whats wubi>
[10:49] <tavi_> sudo apt-get?
[10:49] <Pirate_Hunter> anyone can help me?
[10:49] <Johnny2> n2diy whats wubi?
[10:49] <tash> indus i don think so
[10:49] <innomen> indus: its dangerous making him do that through synamptic isnt it? add remove is better
[10:49] <indus> innomen: oh no not at all, synaptic is very easy,just more options , i want him to reinstall that driver
[10:50] <GarbledScreenAft> indus: okay. just deleteing "config" file made not change. I will delete whole compizconfig# folder.
[10:50] <indus> innomen: also, never used add/remove :)
[10:50] <indus> GarbledScreenAft: holy moly, not config file, compiz folder i said
[10:50] <tash> indus, if it doesn´t show up in lsusb how might i mount it
[10:50] <n2diy> Johnny, I don't know, that is why I don't play with it, but I "think" it as a way to install Ubuntu "in" Windows?
[10:50] <Joe_> ademan I don't know why it won't do it automatically, but I can at least get it working by manually activating the raid arrays and lvm when it fails to boot... irritating, but works
[10:50] <innomen> indus: when i installed 180 i did it through add/remove and it worked perfectly, but now that i'm looking at it in synaptic, there are lots of 180s unchecked, how he going to knwo which oen to initally grab?
[10:51] <indus> tash: say mount -a
[10:51] <tavi_> E: Nu pot găsi pachetul nvidia-glx-180
[10:51] <indus> tavi_: what?
[10:51] <n2diy> ! wubi
[10:51] <tavi_> cant find
[10:51] <tavi_> translated
[10:51] <indus> GarbledScreenAft: rm -rf ~home/username/.config/compiz
[10:51] <Johnny2> I don't think i installed with wubi
[10:51] <n2diy> yep
[10:51] <Johnny2> I have dual-boot windows xp and ubuntu
[10:52] <tavi_> say aplication addremove?
[10:52] <indus> innomen: actually, selecting 180 will auto select the rest anyway
[10:52] <n2diy> Myrtti: peace man.
[10:52] <Myrtti> Johnny2: when you choose which to boot to, is it Windows boot selector you choose with?
[10:52] <indus> tavi_: just open synaptic first
[10:52] <indus> tavi_: search for package nvidia-glx-180
[10:53] <dhaval> Hello.
[10:53] <GarbledScreenAft> indus: I deleted a file called config in the compizconfig# folder. I looked at it first. it had like 2 lines in it an didn't look interesting. It is however in the compizconfig# folder so it will surely get deleted when I delete the compizconfig# folder...
[10:53] <Johnny2> Myrtti i think it might be dos?
[10:53] <tash> indus, mount -a appeared to have no effect :(
[10:53] <tavi_> i jst isntalled something from add/remove software
[10:54] <innomen> tavi: was it nvidia 180?
[10:54] <tavi_> and at search nothing was found
[10:54] <indus> tavi_: if not there,you need to go to synaptic s settings>repositories  and enable the third line
[10:54] <tavi_> no
[10:54] <dhaval_> Hello
[10:54] <tavi_> somethign about hardare drivers
[10:54] <indus> tavi_: ENABLE proprietary drivers line
[10:54] <innomen> tavi: do what indus said
[10:54] <dhaval_> I was having a problem with ubuntu, some websites would not load
[10:55] <dhaval_> I am such a genius I solved it myself.
[10:55] <dhaval_> Do you want to know how?
[10:55] <indus> GarbledScreenAft: yes so after deleting press ALT F7
[10:55] <Myrtti> Johnny2: explain to me how did you install Ubuntu? did you download a piece of software in Windows, run it there, it asked you some questions and looked like something like this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/myrtti/2715898569/
[10:55] <dhaval_> I changed distributions.
[10:55] <indus> dhaval_: sure
[10:55] <dhaval_> I got rid of ubuntu and installed openSUSE
[10:55] <indus> dhaval_: thats nice
[10:55] <tavi_> indus
[10:56] <indus> dhaval_: thanks for the info
[10:56] <dhaval_> And i still don't know why in both ubuntu 9.04 and fedora 11 the SAME websites did not work.
[10:56] <indus> tavi_: yes?
[10:56] <dhaval_> Could anyone please tell me what was wrong?
[10:56] <tavi_> you mean adminnistration -software sources?
[10:56] <Johnny2> myrti yeah that's what the interface was like
[10:56] <indus> tavi_: well ok that too is fine
[10:56] <Myrtti> Johnny2: then you've installed with Wubi
[10:56] <tavi_> and there what to do?
[10:56] <Johnny2> man im stupid :D
[10:57] <indus> tavi_: why dont you open synaptic package manager like i told you?
[10:57] <tavi_> cause i have in my language
[10:57] <iceberg-foundati> hi there
[10:57] <n2diy> sounds like a Debian issue?
[10:57] <indus> tavi_: aah ok tavi sorry
[10:57] <innomen> indus: :)
[10:57] <tavi_> so what to do?
[10:57] <indus> enable 3rd line
[10:57] <tavi_> from where
[10:57] <tavi_> ?
[10:57] <tavi_> what tab?
[10:57] <indus> tavi_: in first tab
[10:58] <tavi_> ubuntu programs?
[10:58] <tavi_> all are cheked
[10:58] <Johnny2> n2diy/Myrtti http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download thats where i got it from
[10:58] <Johnny2> is that wubi
[10:58] <indus> tavi_: ok then open a terminal and type sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-180
[10:58] <n2diy> Danger
[10:58] <n2diy> 1
[10:58] <tavi_> i tried that
[10:58] <tavi_> and say no package
[10:58] <tavi_> let try again
[10:58] <Johnny2> myrtti
[10:58] <indus> tavi_: which version of ubuntu is this???
[10:59] <erUSUL> !enter
[10:59] <InCubaTor> anyone care to help a noob get myfirewire audio interface workin...? it is a focusrite saffire pro 26 interface. i have installed ffado and jack. but i dont get it workin right
[10:59] <Aayush> how to change fonts of gtk entry widget
[10:59] <Myrtti> Johnny2: "the windows based 'wubi' installation"?
[10:59] <Johnny2> did you click the link lol
[10:59] <indus> !patience | indus
[10:59] <indus> :)
[10:59] <innomen> indus: we should have asked that first
[10:59] <innomen> lawl
[10:59]  * innomen places a bet
[11:00] <Johnny2> myrtti just the DL link on the ubuntu website
[11:00] <tavi_> 804
[11:00] <tavi_> long term
[11:00] <indus> tavi_:oh god
[11:00] <tavi_> and in terminal
[11:00] <innomen> lmaop
[11:00] <tavi_> E: Nu pot găsi pachetul nvidia-glx-180
[11:00] <tavi_> tavi@tavi-desktop:~$
[11:00] <FloodBot3> tavi_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:00] <innomen> i win!
[11:00] <cookie> My laptop speakers are mute. Headphones do work but the integrated speaker don't utter a sound. Does anyone have any experience on that? Tried a couple of things without luck
[11:00] <Johnny2> myrtti http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[11:00] <indus> tavi_: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new
[11:00] <greengiant> how can i get a list of current block devices pluged into my computer i.e harddrives, cd drives, etc....
[11:00] <n2diy> Johnny, no, that is the real deal.
[11:00] <Johnny2> yeyeyeye
[11:00] <tavi_> nvidia-glx-new este deja la cea mai nouă versiune.
[11:00] <Johnny2> thats what i got
[11:00] <Johnny2> dual boot with windows xp
[11:00] <indus> tavi_: translate
[11:00] <greengiant> i can see them all listed in /dev/ but i need to get more info. like what kind of device it is from the terminal
[11:00] <tavi_> that mean is already at newest version
[11:00] <InCubaTor> JACK: unable to mlock() port buffers: Cannot allocate memory
[11:00] <Johnny2> so how do i get rid of windows xp
[11:01] <indus> tavi_: hmm
[11:01] <innomen> greengiant: ad remove programs, hardware/device manager, in that list should be a device manager type thing
[11:01] <Johnny2> n2diy is the only way to format entire hdd and reinstall
[11:01] <indus> tavi_: ok now i want you to go to synaptic package manager
[11:01] <cmartin0> how do i boot into init 3?
[11:01] <tavi_> i say to install that driver and install from recovery console
[11:01] <indus> tavi_: also, right now dont you have a display?
[11:02] <Fzza3a_> how r , all ?
[11:02] <tavi_> right now i have 640*480
[11:02] <Myrtti> Johnny2: and what did you do after you downloaded the disk image?
[11:02] <n2diy> Johnny, no, you have the option to manually format, and that should be the default, but it isn't.
[11:02] <innomen> Fzza3a_, : fine, made at my color settings
[11:02] <indus> tavi_: listen to me,open synaptic package manager
[11:02] <tavi_> ok
[11:02] <tavi_> opened
[11:02] <indus> searh nvidia-glx-new
[11:02] <Johnny2> myrtti/n2diy i partitioned 10gb to ubuntu
[11:02] <tavi_> finded
[11:02] <indus> tavi_: right click and reinstall package
[11:03] <tavi_> an are a lot of things there
[11:03] <indus> tavi_: no problem, just select nvidia-glx-new
[11:03] <indus> reinstall
[11:03] <tavi_> ok
[11:03] <tavi_> ok
[11:03] <tavi_> now?
[11:03] <indus> tavi_: restart system
[11:03] <agent_j> does anyone here know how to get SDL working with anjuta? i can't get it to link to the SDL library.
[11:03] <Myrtti> Johnny2: burned the disk image to a cd/made a bootable usb stick?
[11:04] <GarbledScreenAft> indus: how do i switch OFF compiz? i deleted all the files you said i should and to no avail>
[11:04] <n2diy> Johnny,myrtti, and how did you do that, the suggested partitions, or did you manually partition?
[11:04] <innomen> indus: should you have told him to apply the changes first?
[11:04] <indus> GarbledScreenAft: metacity --replace
[11:04] <indus> innomen: oh crap
[11:04] <indus> :)
[11:04] <Myrtti> n2diy: I'm still not convinced he's not installed with wubi
[11:04] <innomen> he left rather abruptly
[11:04] <Johnny2> what
[11:04] <Johnny2> myrtti
[11:04] <innomen> think he just powered down? lol
[11:04] <indus> ok i believe he will understand what reinstall means
[11:04] <Johnny2> i gave you the link
[11:04] <Johnny2> where i downloaded from
[11:04] <innomen> i hope so
[11:04] <indus> np we can wait and see
[11:04] <Johnny2> but the interface you showed me on that image was what i had when i installed
[11:05] <cookie> cookie: hi
[11:05] <Myrtti> Johnny2: if you download from there, you get a disk image. What did you do with the disk image, did you burn it to a disk or make a bootable usb stick?
[11:05] <indus> problem is, he has tried to download some new drivers from website,which is always messy and not recommended
[11:05] <innomen> indus: can you help em with my tiny color issue?
[11:05] <innomen> :)
[11:05] <n2diy> Myrtti: sounds like a virgin install, if he/she is partitioning?
[11:05] <indus> innomen: well can try
[11:05] <innomen> indus: yea, i gathered
[11:05] <Johnny2> burn it to hard disk
[11:05] <Myrtti> n2diy: wubi asks for how much space you want to give to it as well
[11:05] <Fzza3a_> innomen: wht men ?
[11:05] <Myrtti> Johnny2: burn it on *hard* disc? not cd?
[11:06] <innomen> indus: i changed themes, everything is all pretty, but the color instind the search baox for add remove is still not matching the theme, how would i find the color that applies to a given box?
[11:06] <Myrtti> n2diy: it can look like "partitioning"
[11:06] <Johnny2> myrtti i didn't burn anything to cd or usb drive
[11:06] <indus> Myrtti: n2diy:hi do u know why a wubi install would want to connec t to internet to install?
[11:06] <Johnny2> I didn't use anything external myrtti
[11:06] <indus> innomen: hhm seach for lateast version of theme then, or its probably missing some libs
[11:06] <fotoflo> ok,  i am at my wit's end. soemone please help me! I broke apache and nothing is showing up in logs
[11:06] <indus> innomen: happens to me too
[11:07] <tavi_> back
[11:07] <innomen> indus: ahh, right on
[11:07] <Myrtti> Johnny2: if you boot to windows, and check from application manager or whatever, what you can use to uninstall windows software from, is there an entry for removing ubuntu as well?
[11:07] <n2diy> Myrtti: umm, ok. so you are "installing Ubuntu," creating partitions, all under Windows, that sounds like a new way to spell trouble.
[11:07] <MerlinW> hi
[11:07] <indus> tavi_: hi ,u reinstalled the package (click on apply ) ? before restart?
[11:07] <Johnny2> IDK MAN
[11:07] <tavi_> yes
[11:07] <Johnny2> im so confused
[11:07] <innomen> indus: the theme in question is blue joy, but i'll tinker a bit, tavi has priority
[11:07] <Johnny2> im gonna cey
[11:07] <Johnny2> cry*
[11:07] <Myrtti> n2diy: that's what wubi does
[11:07] <FloodBot3> Johnny2: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:08] <indus> tavi_: and ? what is the result?
[11:08] <tavi_> nothing
[11:08] <tavi_> same resolution
[11:08] <Myrtti> n2diy: it makes a loopback file inside the ntfs partition and you can uninstall it with windows
[11:08] <n2diy> Myrtti: and how well does it do it?
[11:08] <indus> tavi_: also sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings
[11:08] <Johnny2> i already uninstalled service pack 3 through windows
[11:08] <Johnny2> but i couldn't figure out how to uninstall windows completely
[11:08] <MerlinW> n2diy, wubi is a "virtual machihe"
[11:08] <MerlinW> n
[11:08] <Myrtti> MerlinW: not really
[11:08] <indus> tavi_: before that.... i need output of glxinfo | grep render
[11:09] <tavi_> indus i could installed that in synaptic
[11:09] <indus> tavi_: paste it.
[11:09] <indus> tavi_: yes sure from synaptic
[11:09] <tavi_> indus i alreadt isntealld nvidia settings from terminal
[11:09] <tavi_> befrore pasting taht youa sked
[11:09] <indus> ok so when you type nvidia-settings in terminal what happens
[11:09] <tavi_> direct rendering: Yes
[11:09] <tavi_> OpenGL renderer string: GeForce 8600 GT/PCI/SSE2
[11:09] <tavi_>     GL_NV_depth_buffer_float, GL_NV_conditional_render, GL_NV_depth_clamp,
[11:09] <tavi_>     GL_NV_vertex_program3, GL_NVX_conditional_render, GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap,
[11:10] <FloodBot3> tavi_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:10] <indus> tavi_: does the nvidia config tool open?
[11:10] <Myrtti> tavi_: how many times do we have to tell you to use pastebin?
[11:10] <innomen> Myrtti, WTF is paste bin?
[11:10] <Beyecixramd> Myrtti: don't be so hard on him
[11:10] <tavi_> yes
[11:10] <Myrtti> n2diy: I wouldn't use it to install a permanent Ubuntu
[11:10] <indus> Myrtti: i say sorry on his behalf
[11:10] <tavi_> open a config tool
[11:10] <Myrtti> !pastebin > innomen
[11:10] <indus> tavi_: use paste for all output from terminal
[11:10] <tavi_> ?
[11:10] <n2diy> Myrtti: would you use it as a demo?
[11:11] <Myrtti> n2diy: at best
[11:11] <indus> tavi_: in terminal type nvidia-settings
[11:11] <MerlinW> Myrtti, its making a virtual partiton (image file). The different from other VM, Wubi is not emulate the hardwares
[11:11] <indus> did a window open?
[11:11] <tavi_> i tiped
[11:11] <tavi_> yes
[11:11] <tavi_> i laready say
[11:11] <tavi_> already
[11:11] <indus> tavi_: so adjust resolution from there
[11:11] <MerlinW> the point: wubi sux
[11:11] <tavi_> ok
[11:11] <tavi_> let me found
[11:11] <MerlinW> :D
[11:11] <Myrtti> MerlinW: wubi is a method of installation, it's not a virtual machine though.
[11:12] <Johnny2> ok so how should i go about making ubuntu my only operating system
[11:12] <tavi_> weeeeeeelllll
[11:12] <tavi_> it's a littele problem
[11:12]  * h1n1 infects everyone
[11:12] <MerlinW> Myrtti, but not using real partition
[11:12] <Myrtti> Johnny2: read that link I gave you earlier
[11:12] <tavi_> the resolution dont allow me to see all the window
[11:12] <tavi_> :)
[11:12] <Johnny2> the wubi one
[11:12] <jezi22> guys, someone here knows a good bash tutorial?
[11:12] <Johnny2> but what if i dont have wubi
[11:12] <Johnny2> i might fuck up my system?
[11:12] <Beyecixramd> MerlinW: Yes, wubi sux, but it's better a dualboot computer than a windows-only computer, dont you think? =D
[11:13] <indus> tavi_: what resolution you want?
[11:13] <h1n1> jezi22 : http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO.html
[11:13] <Beyecixramd> Johnny2: not likely
[11:13] <Myrtti> Johnny2: a) mind your language b) doing backups is never a bad idea
[11:13] <MerlinW> Beyecixramd, ur my man:D
[11:13] <Johnny2> sorry about the lanbuage
[11:13] <tavi_> 640*480
[11:13] <Johnny2> language
[11:13] <tavi_> and the window is hugeeee
[11:13] <indus> tavi_: do u have lcd monitor?
[11:13] <Beyecixramd> MerlinW: Arch Linux here only =3
[11:13] <MerlinW> Ubuntu here only
[11:13] <indus> tavi_: try set it to 1440*900 ?
[11:13] <MerlinW> and a vmware XP
[11:13] <MerlinW> :D
[11:14] <Johnny2> If i wanted to format hard drive what would be the best way to go about it?
[11:14] <tavi_> maaaaan
[11:14] <innomen> indus: wow
[11:14] <tavi_> i can't
[11:14] <tavi_> doesn't shom me any 1024*800 let's say
[11:14] <innomen> indus: he cant make any changes the buttons are hidden
[11:14] <tavi_> i can't select nothing
[11:14] <Beyecixramd> MerlinW: no VM here =D in fact, Fedora + Arch Linux on dual boot
[11:14] <innomen> inuds: is there a way to change resolution from the tyerminal?
[11:15] <tavi_> at xrandr in terminal don't show me that resolution
[11:15] <indus> innomen: aah type xrandr
[11:15] <MerlinW> BellinXFelon, i need a win for some works unfortunattly
[11:15] <indus> !nvidia | tavi_
[11:15] <tavi_> only 640*480 and 320*230
[11:15] <indus> tavi_: what monitor do u have?
[11:15] <MerlinW> Beyecixramd, , i need a win for some works unfortunattly :(
[11:15] <tavi_> an lg flatron
[11:15] <indus> innomen: all options greyed out for tavi_?
[11:15] <innomen> indus: neato, thanky
[11:15] <MerlinW> TAB powa:D
[11:16] <Beyecixramd> MerlinW: aaah, sad. I promised not to touch Windows never again =3
[11:16] <innomen> indus: its still not seeing his card *shrugs* i dont know version 8
[11:16] <Beyecixramd> MerlinW: maybe someday we will be really free, not depending on windows ~
[11:16] <indus> innomen: his card is working fine,rendering 3d is enabled, some xorg config problem i suppose
[11:16] <Johnny2> ok so how should i go about making ubuntu my only operating system
[11:17] <MerlinW> Beyecixramd, i have a imac too instead "win" :D
[11:17] <Beyecixramd> Johnny2: Install it from CD
[11:17] <innomen> indus: or like you're saying something about the monitor?
[11:17] <n2diy> Myrtti: has your laundry died?
[11:17] <Beyecixramd> MerlinW: i don't like apple, in fact i hate apple.
[11:17] <Johnny2> I dont have it on cd :(
[11:17] <tavi_> so any ideea?
[11:17] <indus> innomen: ya might need to manually set resolution
[11:17] <Beyecixramd> MerlinW: but i hate more Microsoft than Apple.
[11:17] <Johnny2> Beyecixramd: i dont have it on cd
[11:17] <Beyecixramd> MerlinW: Anything else is better than Windows, even FreeFOS xD
[11:17] <Beyecixramd> FreeDOS*
[11:18] <Myrtti> n2diy: #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:18] <MerlinW> Beyecixramd, osx is good...
[11:18] <tavi_> at xrandr in terminal the same resolution is shown
[11:18] <deany> gah, finally got java 64bit FF plugin working..  and all i had to do was grab the bin and link the plugin, why couldnt the pkg manager do that
[11:18] <Beyecixramd> Johnny2: Download it and burn
[11:18] <Johnny2> ok
[11:18] <indus> tavi_: in terminal type nvidia-xconfig
[11:18] <n2diy> Myrtti: 10-4
[11:18] <innomen> Beyecixramd: dont forget usb sticks
[11:18] <indus> tavi_: lets see if that works
[11:18] <Johnny2> Beyecixramd: how can i backup what i have on ubuntu now and get it back on once ive formatted harddrive and reinstalled ubuntu
[11:18] <Beyecixramd> innomen: oh, true, but i prefer a CD than a US
[11:18] <Beyecixramd> USB*
[11:18] <indus> tavi_: can u give me a screenshot of nvidia-settings ?
[11:18] <innomen> Beyecixramd: i refuse to use CDs on principal, same reason i dont have a diskette drive
[11:19] <Beyecixramd> Johnny2: Get an external HDD, or burn it to a DVD, something like that, IDK
[11:19] <innomen> :)
[11:19] <indus> !PASTE | tavi_
[11:19] <tavi_> well yes
[11:19] <Beyecixramd> innomen: USBs are OK too =3
[11:19] <indus> tavi_: aah use imagebin.org
[11:19] <MerlinW> Johnny2, pack tar/gz ur datas (for the permissions), and backup somewhere
[11:19] <Johnny2> Beyecixramd: how can i do that :D drag /home and /etc to my 8gb usb?
[11:20] <MerlinW> Johnny2, DVD?
[11:20] <Beyecixramd> Johnny2: Only /home i dont recommend you copying /etc
[11:20] <tavi_> i do nto handle imagebin
[11:20] <innomen> http://paste.ubuntu.com/235823/
[11:20] <Johnny2> how can i back up what ive got on my os now so i can use it once ive formatted just drag and drop?
[11:20] <cO> dgfdgd
[11:20] <Dimitree> Help ! My DVB-S2 drivers dissapeared after the last update :( i tryed to compile them again and install them again but there is no dvb folder in /dev/ :(
[11:20] <Beyecixramd> Johnny2: Also, copy the only files you really need, not the entire /home partition
[11:20] <MerlinW> Johnny2, DVD, USB, Network, another HDD, etc... use ur fantasy:D
[11:21] <Beyecixramd> MerlinW: Network? you mean internet?
[11:21] <Johnny2> im so confused
[11:21] <Ademan> Johnny2: i would recommend tar.bz2-ing your home directory personally
[11:21] <Beyecixramd> Ademan: is right
[11:21] <indus> tavi_: imagebin/org  at bottom go to paste your image
[11:21] <Johnny2> so i can just drag and drop my applications and files and then once ive reinstalled drag and drop them back?
[11:21] <MerlinW> Beyecixramd, no, i mean local network, but if he has fast connection...:D
[11:21] <indus> imagebin.org
[11:21] <tavi_> http://imagebin.org/57606
[11:21] <Beyecixramd> MerlinW: LAN then. Only possible if you have more than 1 PC =D.
[11:22] <Johnny2> Ok I'm gonna try this, somebody please tell me if I'm doing it wrong. step 1 download ubuntu cd installer, step 2 drag all the applications/files in home that i want to usb step 3 install ubuntu step 4 drag those applications and files onto desktop?
[11:23] <MerlinW> Johnny2, yes, but if u backup other directories (usr/local, etc, whatever) u have to pack tar or gz or both, for the right permissions
[11:23] <tavi_> indus
[11:23] <tavi_> ?
[11:23] <tavi_> any ideea
[11:23] <tavi_> ?
[11:23] <MerlinW> Beyecixramd, LAN is a network too, right?:D
[11:23] <FloodBot3> tavi_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:23] <indus> tavi_: yes?
[11:23] <Johnny2> uhh gibberish to me sorry im a noob what exactly do you mean?
[11:23] <tavi_> well?
[11:23] <tavi_> any ideea?
[11:23] <indus> tavi_: well , wait
[11:23] <tavi_> well i am a little hungry
[11:24] <Beyecixramd> MerlinW: in fact, LAN is only network, and internet is called WAN xD i thought you meant WAN instead of LAN (like uploading your data to a hosting service provider)
[11:24] <DJones> Johnny2: How did you install ubuntu originally? was it dual boot or via wubi?
[11:24] <Johnny2> dual boot
[11:24] <MerlinW> Beyecixramd, concentrate to the "N" word:D
[11:24] <indus> tavi_: please paste output of cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:25] <Johnny2> Djones: dual boot
[11:25] <Beyecixramd> MerlinW: OH NO! the "N" word D= xD
[11:25] <gecko1> i wish there was an ubuntu cereal
[11:25] <Myrtti> DJones: thank you. I think he has wubi, but I'm not sure anymore.
[11:25] <MerlinW> Johnny2, tar -cf backup.tar  /home /etc /usr/local etc...
[11:25] <Beyecixramd> gecko1: ubuntu cereal? lol
[11:25] <gecko1> ubuntu mmm
[11:25] <DJones> Johnny2: Right, if it had been wubi, i'd seen a link that would have helped you, but its not going to be the right one for dualboot
[11:25] <tavi_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/235828/
[11:26] <innomen> whats the diffrence between a compiz theme and a gtk 2.x theme?
[11:26] <Johnny2> tar: Removing leading `/' from member names
[11:26] <innomen> i just want me computer theme to match the plastic, black, instead of looking like cream candy :)
[11:26] <innomen> if i shake it real hard will that help?
[11:26] <indus> tavi_: what monitor do u have? LCD ?
[11:26] <tavi_> well yes
[11:26] <tavi_> i think is lcd
[11:26] <tavi_> or plasma
[11:26] <Johnny2> my brains going to xplode
[11:26] <MerlinW> tavi_, sorry, whats the problem?
[11:26] <DJones> Myrtti: If it had been wubi, pop.ey's link for conversion would have been ideal
[11:26] <tavi_> on description on site says licquid crystals
[11:26] <Beyecixramd> Johnny2: :O take it easy, man
[11:27] <iceroot> what tools like apticron,fail2ban and logcheck are recommend to have a save server?
[11:27] <indus> tavi_: main menu>system>preferences>screen resolution
[11:27] <indus> tavi_: try there?
[11:27] <gecko1> breathe johnny2
[11:27] <Myrtti> DJones: which I gave already. I still think it's wubi, but since there's no clear answer on if it is, I'm stumped and have to move on
[11:27] <tavi_> show me the only two i can
[11:28] <indus> tavi_: hmm ok
[11:28] <indus> tavi_: ok wait 1 min
[11:28] <troythetechguy>  I crated a shared folder in Vbox (Ubuntu host w/ XP guest). I want to have the shared file which is located on the host, be the "my Documents" folder for XP (guest).  Any concerns I should be aware of with this set up?
[11:28] <tavi_> 640*480 and 320 * 240
[11:28] <tavi_> ok
[11:28] <MerlinW> Johnny2, "Removing leading `/' from member names"  its ok, skip it
[11:28] <Beyecixramd> troythetechguy: you have to setup a network between your VM and your host. try google
[11:29] <MerlinW> Johnny2, its working, that is just a comment
[11:29] <Johnny2> :S
[11:29] <Johnny2> its not doing nothing
[11:29] <Johnny2> double negative, whats it supposed to be doign?
[11:29] <Johnny2> doing***
[11:29] <GarbledScreenAft> indus: i tried what you suggested but the desktop is still not right. When windows appear, they are black and permanaently make that part of the scrren black. I have booted of the Jaunty LiveCD since I don't really understand bash and how to do stuff quickly. Perhaps you could tell me what I can do to reset compiz from this position.
[11:29] <MerlinW> Johnny2, what is nothing?:)
[11:30] <indus> GarbledScreenAft: just disable it and go backto metacity type metacity --replace
[11:30] <tavi_> well
[11:30] <MerlinW> Johnny2, r u use sudo, right?
[11:30] <Johnny2> the command
[11:30] <Johnny2> just said
[11:30] <InCubaTor> i have problems with jackd. anyone knows how to handle it with a firewire audio interface
[11:30] <tavi_> i am a little hungry
[11:30] <gecko1> have some ubuntu
[11:30] <Johnny2> oops
[11:30] <Johnny2> it still only comes up with tar: Removing leading `/' from member names
[11:30] <indus> tavi_: me too, sorry tavi, i think you need to google it or someone else here may help you
[11:30] <ohir> Beyecixramd: afaik vbox supports host fs sharing natively thru its kernel module
[11:31] <tavi_> indus
[11:31] <Beyecixramd> ohir: yup, it does
[11:31] <Timmy2Tall> waddup bitches
[11:31] <tavi_> but by triond install what i have dowloaded from nvidia site whit recovery console?
[11:31] <indus> tavi_: have you tried upgrading to a newer version? or maybe manually adding the resolution in xorg conf?
[11:31] <bazhang> Timmy2Tall, watch the language
[11:31] <Timmy2Tall> So why does this place have so many people in it?
[11:31] <tavi_> adding manualyy the resolution?
[11:31] <tavi_> no
[11:32] <indus> tavi_: well,you can try it,but it might make your display not start at all
[11:32] <tavi_> so what i do?
[11:32] <indus> !nvidia
[11:32] <ohir> troythetechguy: it should work if you first do this sharing and then points windoze to use it as your winhome (docs) folder
[11:32] <bazhang> Timmy2Tall, this is ubuntu support; do you have a support question
[11:32] <jado> hi, i have an internet problem, sometimes after a while, it seems that the dns goes down so i can't browse anymore. Just now it went down and i can't ping www.google.com but i'm still connected (unknown host)
[11:32] <MerlinW> Johnny2, try this: sudo tar -czvf backup.tar /home
[11:32] <Beyecixramd> jado: are you behind a router?
[11:32] <Timmy2Tall> you trying to tell me all 1000 of these ppl need support?
[11:32] <Beyecixramd> Timmy2Tall: not really
[11:32] <GarbledScreenAft> indus: Each time I try metacity --replace it give an errors saying that it can't open the display or something.
[11:33] <indus> tavi_: do you have any onboard graphics card?
[11:33] <tavi_> yes
[11:33] <bazhang> Timmy2Tall, please take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:33] <tavi_> i hope
[11:33] <th0r> jado: that happens to me sometimes. In my case it is caused by a weak wifi signal...my computer is disconnected from the wifi, but doesn't know it
[11:33] <jado> Beyecixramd: a home router yes, if i reboot it it's going to work, but i'm trying to find another solution than always rebooting
[11:33] <jado> th0r: i'm connected with an ethernet cable
[11:33] <ohir> troythetechguy: just bear in mind that docs folder is never your true winhome as windoze heavily uses its default place for many things, ie TEMP folders bookmarks and so on
[11:33] <indus> tavi_: you could also try installing nvidia-glx instead of nvidia-glx-new
[11:34] <th0r> jado: well...that takes care of THAT excuse
[11:34] <Beyecixramd> jado: try reconnecting your cable instead of rebooting the router
[11:34] <tavi_> indus
[11:34] <tavi_> thsi is what we have done?
[11:34] <Beyecixramd> jado: maybe your DHCP server is not working well
[11:34] <indus> tavi_: we installed glx-new, there is a package called glx which too is fine
[11:34] <tavi_> but performance?
[11:35] <indus> tavi_: a little older, but i have used it,works fine , you could try
[11:35] <tavi_> lower?
[11:35] <jado> Beyecixramd: the problem is on every computer of the house, not just mine (windows XP/vista or ubuntu)
[11:35] <tavi_> well
[11:35] <indus> tavi_: no
[11:35] <indus> tavi_: ia play quake 4 so it works fine
[11:35] <GarbledScreenAft> indus: is there a shortcut key to start the console. then I can run the console from the desktop and type metacity --replace!
[11:35] <tavi_> we could try fix this ?
[11:35] <Beyecixramd> jado: then the problem is probably coming from your router, the DHCP server, try to change the router
[11:35] <MerlinW> I wrote a little Ati Catalyst auto install script: http://mwo.sytes.net/index.php?cid=137
[11:35] <jado> Beyecixramd: what's with the DHCP ? i do have an ip address; the problem is more on the DNS right ?
[11:35] <indus> GarbledScreenAft: right now you have a GUI or no?
[11:35] <tavi_> let's try edit that xorg?
[11:35] <indus> GarbledScreenAft: or just some black screen
[11:35] <Beyecixramd> jado: DHCP is the system the router uses to assign a IP in your internal network (LAN)
[11:35] <MerlinW> this download the newest catalyt driver, compile and install
[11:36] <GarbledScreenAft> indus: I have booted from the liveCD and have a PERFECT GUI...
[11:36] <indus> tavi_: well,wrong values might damage your monitor, find out what the monitor is, then try
[11:36] <indus> GarbledScreenAft: aah no start regular system
[11:36] <tavi_> i know what's the monitor
[11:36] <tavi_> say on him
[11:36] <tavi_> man
[11:36] <jado> Beyecixramd: yes, and i do have an ip address so the problem is not coming from there (i'm well connected on internet as i'm talking to you right now) it's just that i can't solve domain names
[11:36] <tavi_> modfy that xorg or installing glx ?
[11:36] <indus> tavi_: hmm i suggest modify xorg
[11:36] <Beyecixramd> jado: Does your router resolve DNSs from a preconfigured IP?
[11:37] <om26er> virtualization on intel atom is it possible
[11:37] <tavi_> well let install that glx
[11:37] <indus> GarbledScreenAft: with live cd,how did you delete that compiz folder?
[11:37] <tavi_> let's say
[11:37] <tavi_> and after install that glx can i install the glx -new
[11:37] <tavi_> ?
[11:37] <om26er> !virtualization
[11:37] <jado> Beyecixramd: what do you mean? from a computer with a fixed IP?
[11:37] <Beyecixramd> om26er: of course it is, it will be slow, but yes, it is possible
[11:37] <tavi_> or will do same problems
[11:37] <tavi_> ?
[11:38] <indus> tavi_: will same problems
[11:38] <GarbledScreenAft> indus: okay I restart the pc and it is going to the desktop but it generally becomes black within about 10 seconds after getting to the desktop so I won't know what windows are on or what I have typed.
[11:38] <Beyecixramd> jado: have you checked the DNS settings on your router?
[11:38] <tavi_> indus
[11:38] <tavi_> check this out
[11:38] <indus> GarbledScreenAft: are you typing from another machine?
[11:38] <Johnny2> MerlinW: its doing all this junk does that mean its working lol
[11:38] <om26er> Beyecixramd: tell me a good n lite client
[11:38] <tavi_> on nvidia settings in terminal
[11:38] <Timmy2Tall> HEY I GOT BANNED IN OFF-TOPIC
[11:38] <indus> tavi_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[11:38] <non7top> привет всем
[11:38] <Johnny2> MerlinW: what is that command you gave me doing?
[11:38] <Dator> Hello
[11:38] <Beyecixramd> om26er: QEMU is highly recommended
[11:38] <Myrtti> Timmy2Tall: and you're about to be banned here
[11:38] <Timmy2Tall> I need unbuntu support
[11:38] <bazhang> Timmy2Tall, lose the caps
[11:38] <Dator> Is this where i can get help using kubuntu?
[11:38] <Myrtti> Timmy2Tall: then ask
[11:38] <Timmy2Tall> I just did
[11:39] <indus> Dator: #kubuntu
[11:39] <bazhang> non7top, #ubuntu-ru for Russian
[11:39] <Timmy2Tall> I got banned from unbunto off topic
[11:39] <om26er> !kvm
[11:39] <Timmy2Tall> i need to be un banned
[11:39] <Johnny2> merlinW?
[11:39] <tavi_> at xserve display settings say 640*380 crt .....and i do not have a crt i have a lcd
[11:39] <jado> Beyecixramd: i don't see such a setting in the router config
[11:39] <MerlinW> Johnny2, its packing the files and directories with own permission settings in a backup.tar file
[11:39] <non7top> bazhang: спасибо, то что надо было
[11:39] <iceroot> Timmy2Tall: please stop spamk, just ask a ubuntu-related question
[11:39] <bazhang> non7top, /join #ubuntu-ru
[11:39] <Johnny2> oooh thanks babe
[11:39] <indus> tavi_: ok i have 1 option which can work
[11:39] <MerlinW> np:)
[11:39] <Timmy2Tall> okay, how is firefox made?
[11:39] <Beyecixramd> jado: then it's autoresolved, definitely the problem comes from the router
[11:39] <Johnny2> merlinW: can i talk to you in private
[11:39] <om26er> Beyecixramd: ubottu says kvm is preferred what u say
[11:39] <iceroot> Timmy2Tall: what?
[11:39] <indus> tavi_: in terminal type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:39] <MerlinW> come
[11:40] <Johnny2> !pm MerlinW hi
[11:40] <Johnny2> fail
[11:40] <jado> Beyecixramd: yes but why the problem goes away when i reboot it ?
[11:40] <jrib> Timmy2Tall: ask a *support* question please
[11:40] <anawim> don't feed the troll
[11:40] <tavi_> so what is it?
[11:40] <Beyecixramd> om26er: QEMU is lighter, WAY lighter
[11:40] <MerlinW> ubottu, hm?:D
[11:40] <om26er> ok
[11:40] <tavi_> ok
[11:40] <tavi_> now?
[11:40] <om26er> Beyecixramd: ok
[11:40] <om26er> qemu
[11:40] <MerlinW> silly bot
[11:40] <Beyecixramd> lol, why?
[11:41] <indus> tavi_: what is first option? press ok
[11:41] <om26er> !qemu
[11:41] <indus> tavi_: see the options carefully
[11:41] <jado> Beyecixramd: well i'll just reboot
[11:41] <tavi_> first option use tampon interface for cadres in nucleu
[11:41] <tavi_> i can't trans;late right
[11:41] <tavi_> cause is in my language
[11:42] <indus> tavi_: hmm select no
[11:42] <MerlinW> Ubuntu - Ati Catalyst auto install script - http://mwo.sytes.net/index.php?cid=137
[11:42] <CptnAwesome> hi folks, im running ubuntu with openbox (lxde) and i need to add the repositories for openoffice3, any idea how i can do this via command line or what package i need to install to do it with a gui (prefered option)
[11:42] <Beyecixramd> jado: OK
[11:42] <tavi_> next is automate detect keyboard arrangement
[11:42] <indus> press enter
[11:42] <tavi_> yes or no
[11:42] <tavi_> has no ok
[11:42] <indus> no
[11:42] <jrib> CptnAwesome: 3 is the default version of openoffice.org in jaunty.  Are you using a different version?
[11:42] <tavi_> now has a long thing
[11:43] <gecko1> what do you guys suggest as security on 9.04?
[11:43] <MerlinW> tavi_, did u tried the restricted driver? system/administration/restricted - enable
[11:43] <tavi_> whit use "fr" and use "de"
[11:43] <jrib> gecko1: use the repositories for your software installation
[11:43] <tavi_> and has ok
[11:43] <indus> tavi_: just press enter
[11:43] <CptnAwesome> jrib, nope, jaunty is my poison. 'apt-get install openoffice' didnt do anything, whats the package name?
[11:44] <indus> tavi_: tab and enter
[11:44] <tavi_> keyboard arrangement gb and has ok
[11:44] <indus> tavi_: you from gb?
[11:44] <indus> tavi_: its great britain
[11:44] <tavi_> nu
[11:44] <jrib> CptnAwesome: umm, openoffice.org
[11:44] <tavi_> but i understand
[11:44] <indus> tavi_: u using us english?
[11:44] <indus> tavi_: ok
[11:44] <iceroot> CptnAwesome: to find the correct name you can use apt-cache search openoffice
[11:44] <tavi_> and has no other option
[11:45] <indus> tavi_: ok select defaults
[11:45] <CptnAwesome> ohh thanks, thats going to be a handy one to know, thanks iceroot.
[11:45] <tavi_> MerlinW: is nothign what you have said there
[11:45] <indus> tavi_: hmm iam not sure thiswill work
[11:45] <tavi_> indus
[11:45] <tavi_> and now has about xorg and sun
[11:45] <indus> MerlinW: he needs help with resolution, cant go higher, drivers are installed and enabled
[11:45] <indus> tavi_: press enter
[11:46] <tavi_> preseed
[11:46] <tavi_> now
[11:46] <indus> tavi_: press CTL_ALT_BACK
[11:46] <tavi_> keyboard model
[11:46] <indus> space
[11:46] <tavi_> pci05
[11:46] <Johnny2> JOHNNY VS WINDOWS
[11:46] <tavi_> only option hitted ok
[11:46] <indus> tavi_: just forget it, press ctl -c
[11:46] <hthd> wow ubuntu.
[11:46] <indus> tavi_: close terminal
[11:46] <hthd> fuck pricey.
[11:47] <CptnAwesome> o.0 my framebuffer maxed out with 'apt-cache search openoffice' =(
[11:47] <tavi_> now?
[11:47] <bazhang> hthd, watch the language
[11:47] <tavi_> what
[11:47] <tavi_> ?
[11:47] <indus> tavi_: hmm cant help more
[11:47] <hthd> fuck you too.
[11:47] <tavi_> well
[11:47] <indus> tavi_: sorry
[11:47] <tavi_> ?
[11:47] <Beyecixramd> !language
[11:47] <tavi_> lets try install that glx
[11:47] <indus> :) ok
[11:47] <tavi_> and then documentation about glx new
[11:47] <indus> tavi_: i be back in 10 min
[11:48] <tavi_> maibe we found a solutioan latter
[11:48] <tavi_> ok
[11:48] <indus> tavi_: have you tried upgrading to a newer ubuntu?
[11:48] <tavi_> i must eat too
[11:48] <tavi_> no
[11:48] <tavi_> this is a long term release
[11:48] <MerlinW> tavi_, http://pastebin.com/d5cd61fb
[11:48] <tavi_> and i like it
[11:48] <GarbledScreenAft> Does anyone know how to restart gnome in Jaunty?
[11:48] <indus> tavi_: try then?
[11:48] <MerlinW> look the resolution override lines
[11:48] <tavi_> upgrading?
[11:48] <tavi_> no
[11:49] <indus> MerlinW: this is his paste http://paste.ubuntu.com/235828/
[11:49] <jrib> GarbledScreenAft: log out and log back in but why?
[11:49] <indus> ok i gtg
[11:49] <MerlinW> indus, ok, but i write a sample, how he can adding custom resolutions
[11:49] <wers> how do you play amr files? :)
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[11:49] <MerlinW> indus,  http://pastebin.com/d5cd61fb
[11:49] <tavi_> so how can i add?
[11:50] <H_M-Laptop> Does anyone know what font WMII uses by default?
[11:50] <MerlinW> tavi_, here the sample (xorg.conf) http://pastebin.com/d5cd61fb
[11:50] <tavi_> i think he can;t fidn taht is a lcd
[11:50] <indus> MerlinW: thanks a lot man
[11:50] <indus> MerlinW: very very nice
[11:50] <tavi_> well
[11:50] <tavi_> so what i need to do?
[11:50] <MerlinW> tavi_, this sample for LCD 22", with 1680x1050 , but u can modify
[11:51] <H_M-Laptop> MerlinW, you wouldn't happen to play Nexuiz would you?
[11:51] <tavi_> so install that glx or do what ytou have said?
[11:51] <MerlinW> H_M-Laptop, dunno what is it
[11:51] <GarbledScreenAft> jrib : indus has been helping me up to now with my problem of I can't see my desktop (black) since selecting "blur window" in compiz settings manager. I can't ACTUALLY believe that this can't be fixed.
[11:52] <H_M-Laptop> MerlinW, never mind.. I know someone else who goes by nearly the same name.. It's a game by the way, opensource FPS.
[11:52] <jrib> GarbledScreenAft: restart nautilus
[11:52] <jrib> GarbledScreenAft: wait.  By desktop you mean the place with icons or all of X?
[11:52] <H_M-Laptop> Just google it if you want to know more
[11:52] <aaronvarghese> who is the troll
[11:52] <MerlinW> tavelram_, you can skip glx, u will have time for that if the others are working
[11:52] <MerlinW> tavi_, you can skip glx, u will have time for that if the others are working
[11:52] <tavi_> i cnat resize windows at all  too
[11:52] <MerlinW> damn TAB
[11:53] <tavi_> ok
[11:53] <tavi_> so what to do
[11:53] <tavi_> ?
[11:53] <MerlinW> tavi_, show ur actual conf
[11:53] <tavi_> what?
[11:53] <MerlinW> xorg.conf
[11:53] <MerlinW> show me
[11:53] <tavi_> where i find it?
[11:53] <MerlinW> with the new modifications
[11:54] <tavi_> i didn't  modify
[11:54] <Dator> Hello does anyone know how to fix my boot problem???
[11:54] <Johnny2> is there a keyboard shortcut for paste
[11:54] <bullgard4> The Integrated circuit  'Realtek ALC202' is described as an "AC'97 compatible audio codec having several stereo and mono inputs and outputs." Why does my laptop computer need an additional IC 'ALI 5451' (an ALSA mixer)?
[11:54] <bullgard4> Johnny2: Yes. Ctrl+V.
[11:55] <MerlinW> ok., i gave u a setting sample, right? u have to insert in the resolution overrides (gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf)
[11:55] <Johnny2>  what
[11:55] <tavi_> where i find that xorg.conf?
[11:55] <Johnny2> merlinW
[11:55] <MerlinW> tavi_,  ok., i gave u a setting sample, right? u have to insert in the resolution overrides (gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf)
[11:55] <Dator> !grub
[11:55] <GarbledScreenAft> Please could someone tell me where the configuration file for compiz is so that I can swtich the "blur window" setting off!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[11:55] <Johnny2> merlinw: does this mean its funushed? /home/johnnysullivan/Videos/
[11:55] <Johnny2> /home/johnnysullivan/.bash_logout
[11:55] <Johnny2> /home/johnnysullivan/backup.tar
[11:55] <Beyecixramd> GarbledScreenAft: try CCSM
[11:55] <indus> GarbledScreenAft: u still stuck?
[11:55] <MerlinW> tavi_,  if u done, show me (pastebin), and if its ok, restart the system
[11:55] <Beyecixramd> !flood
[11:55]  * richardcavell has been playing Half-Life again
[11:55] <Maximo> question: How / where do I get (install) a Multimedia plugin package that include a microsoft media server (SMM) protocol source?
[11:56] <Beyecixramd> indus: what's wrong with him?
[11:56] <tavi_> MerlinW: i opened the file
[11:56] <tavi_> do not show me any resolution
[11:56] <asger> I need helt getting flash to work in my two browsers opera and firefox
[11:57] <Beyecixramd> asger: Install the flash from the adobe site, choose *.deb package
[11:57] <indus> Beyecixramd: GarbledScreenAft: well he selected some blur settings in compiz,and messed dispplay, so i asked him to delete compiz folder from home
[11:57] <nnull> i have a machine that requires legacy nvidia drivers, .run wants to be run without x server running, how would i do this? eg reboot into cli only mode? one of the inits or ???
[11:57] <tavi_> i do not see any line whit resolutions to modify
[11:57] <indus> rm -rf ~username/.config/compiz
[11:57] <Beyecixramd> !language
[11:57] <jrib> !nvidia > nnull
[11:57] <iceroot> nnull: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[11:58] <iceroot> nutzer_: before switch to a shell (ctrl + alt + f2)
[11:58] <tavi_> let me show some print screens from there?
[11:58] <nnull> thx iceroot
[11:58] <Maximo> question: How / where do I get (install) a Multimedia plugin package that include a microsoft media server (SMM) protocol source?
[11:58] <MerlinW> tavi_,  http://pastebin.com/d5cd61fb
[11:58] <iceroot> nutzer_: sorry, wrong nick
[11:58] <CptnAwesome> is there any benifit using apt-get source and compiling versus apt-get install ???
[11:58] <MerlinW> tavi_,  here is the sample... 20x
[11:58] <GarbledScreenAft> Okay so I have been on this forum for 2 and  a half hours. I NEED TO KNOW WHERE the compiz setting is! Please.
[11:58] <jrib> CptnAwesome: no, not if you aren't making modifications
[11:59]  * Beyecixramd AFK.
[11:59] <vigo> Maximo: You may need to enable Restricted in the repositories.
[11:59] <indus> !compiz | GarbledScreenAft
[11:59] <CptnAwesome> jrib, thanks =)
[11:59] <tavi_> MerlinW: i need to psot print screent not pastebin
[11:59] <nnull> GarbledScreenAft#  goto synaptic package manager, type "compiz" in search, look for Compiz settings Manager or something of the like..
[11:59] <indus> GarbledScreenAft: try in channel #compiz
[11:59] <nnull> there are two of them, the one thats not "Simple"
[11:59] <Maximo> vigo: how do I do that (quick rundown please)?
[11:59] <GarbledScreenAft> indus: I don't believe you if you tell me that I can only use a GUI to fix this problem. There has GOT to be a setting FILE! :-(
[12:00] <tavi_> somewhere i can load multiple files
[12:00] <Beyecixramd> GarbledScreenAft: try in #Compiz
[12:00] <MerlinW> tavi_, ... u have a xorg.conf. i gave u an another one. copy to yours the resolution lines to the right places
[12:00] <asger> Beyecixramd, It says i've got a newer version already
[12:00] <vigo> Maximo: System>Administration>Software Sources, is one way, it can also be done in Synaptic.
[12:00] <nnull> GarbledScreenAft#  i prefer a config file over a GUI more than most people, but for compiz.. i think your crazy to want this.. the gui allows you to save your settings to a backup file also.
[12:01] <jrib> GarbledScreenAft: create a ~/.gnomerc with "export WINDOW_MANAGER=metacity"
[12:01] <Beyecixramd> asger: then your flash should be installed
[12:01] <MerlinW> tavi_, .and change the values for what u want (1280, etc)
[12:01] <indus> GarbledScreenAft: where am i telling you to use a gui
[12:01] <JenniferB> I am trying to set up a subversion on ubuntu server.. I have installed subversion and created a project in var/svn/myproject .. I want to connect to it from my windows machine.. is it https://ip:??
[12:01] <MerlinW> tavi_, i cant explain better
[12:01] <JenniferB> please help me will out the question marks :)
[12:01] <JenniferB> fill*
[12:01] <indus> GarbledScreenAft: i gave you a command line option to delete the compiz settings in your home directory
[12:01] <tavi_> well at that modeline?
[12:01] <GarbledScreenAft> indus: compiz settings manager <-- insn't that the gUI?
[12:02] <asger> Beyecixramd, yeah, i thought so as well. But flash things doesn't work on web pages
[12:02] <vigo> Maximo: It can also be done in Terminal.
[12:02] <Beyecixramd> asger: is the flash installed in the addons list, on FF?
[12:02] <indus> GarbledScreenAft: huh what? didnt you read the command i gave you? rm -rf ~YOURNAME/.config/compiz
[12:02] <GarbledScreenAft> indus: I have tried the command line to delete the settings but the blur is still active and ruining the desktop...
[12:03] <indus> GarbledScreenAft: that is where all your settings are saved
[12:03] <indus> GarbledScreenAft: deleting that folder reverts compiz back to default settings
[12:03] <tavi_> MerlinW: it's totally different from what you gaved me
[12:03] <Maximo> vigo: is there a way to do it ...I am in the third party software....I dont' see it there
[12:03] <tavi_> let me send you some print  screens
[12:03] <MerlinW> JenniferB, whats the problem?
[12:03] <GarbledScreenAft> indus: I tried deleting this folder but to no avail..
[12:03] <Guest86222> hi all
[12:03] <jrib> indus: sometimes compiz uses gconf to save settings iirc
[12:04] <asger> Beyecixramd, it says i've got shockwave flash installed
[12:04] <indus> GarbledScreenAft: ok whats the output of ls -l ~yourname/.config/
[12:04] <MerlinW> tavi: not totally, but its working
[12:04] <jrib> GarbledScreenAft: just have gnome use metacity as the window manager and then run ccsm from there
[12:04] <Guest86222> need some help in subversion
[12:04] <tavi_> let me show you
[12:04] <jrib> Guest86222: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[12:04] <iceroot> !ask |  Guest86222
[12:04] <andrewubuntu> hi guys. I am using ubuntu 9.04 and firefox keeps crashing at random. the output in terminal window is "segmentation fault". i did a little seach and found that the fix is to remove SCIM but there are no instructions on how to do that. Can anyone help me with this?
[12:04] <vigo> Maximo: I am looking for the Terminal script now..
[12:05] <Johnny2> wait if i downloaded ubuntu to my harddrive can i locate the installation folder and use that?
[12:05] <Johnny2> after i format
[12:05] <MerlinW> tavi_, i dont said u use my sample config, i said, u can modify yours base on it
[12:05] <Maximo> vigo: thanks alot
[12:05] <MerlinW> if u cant do that, we cant help u...
[12:05] <jrib> Johnny2: what do you mean by "I downloaded ubuntu"?  You downloaded a .iso?
[12:05] <tavi_> well is totally diferent and ic ant understand
[12:05] <buzz2> i have created a svn server on ubuntu 9.04 now in my n/w there are another 20 computers all on ubuntu 9.04.i want to know do i need to create svn user account for all 20 on my server
[12:05] <JenniferB> MerlinW: I don't really know how to connect to the svn and commit from my windows machine.. can I use the https protocol?
[12:06] <JenniferB> i have just installed subversion
[12:06] <andrewubuntu> hi guys, can anyone tell me how to remove SCIM from jaunty?
[12:06] <iceroot> bullgard4: no, svn uses only username + password so create the user-logins you want/need
[12:06] <Johnny2> I downloaded it using windows to my HDD and now i have dual boot but i want rid of windows so i am formatting harddrive and reinstalling ubuntu. do i have to download ubuntu again and put it on a cd? i am running ubuntu atm.
[12:06] <moncky> JenniferB: is there not a Windows svn client?
[12:06] <bazhang> andrewubuntu, via synaptic package manager
[12:06] <tavi_> hasnt' alot of otpion of what tyou have
[12:07] <indus> GarbledScreenAft: ?hello is there a compizconf folder there now or no?
[12:07] <bullgard4> iceroot: I think you mis-directed your message to me.
[12:07] <buzz2> jrib iceroot ubottu help needed :)
[12:07] <andrewubuntu> bazhang: thank you, am trying that now
[12:07] <iceroot> JenniferB: use a svn client for windows, like qsvn
[12:07] <Blizzerand> Johnny2 : So you have both ubuntu and windows
[12:07] <JenniferB> moncky: I am using intellij
[12:07] <iceroot> bullgard4: oh, i am sorry
[12:07] <moncky> JenniferB: maybe have a look at this http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/001093.html
[12:07] <Johnny2> yeah
[12:07] <Blizzerand> Johnny2 : side by side
[12:07] <q0_0p> is there any way to get a turion64 laptop's fan from being loud
[12:07] <Johnny2> no
[12:07] <alex76magic> buon giorno
[12:07] <Blizzerand> Johnny2 : Do you have the live CD
[12:07] <moncky> JenniferB: but if your problem is in using windows so you might want to try ##windows
[12:07] <indus> i give up
[12:07] <Johnny2> i have dual boot
[12:07] <iceroot> buzz2: no, svn uses only username + password so create the user-logins you want/need
[12:07] <jrib> buzz2: you can use the same user on different machines
[12:07] <Johnny2> nope
[12:08] <Johnny2> im gonna make one though
[12:08] <vigo> Maximo: This is close> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=e6e4a96b4cb1040f19c25a23fa2082a6&t=1224961&highlight=edit+sources , but still looking
[12:08] <Maximo> ok
[12:08] <MerlinW> JenniferB, its depend what svn u talk about. gimme a link
[12:08] <Maximo> vigo: I am going to take a look at that
[12:08] <Maximo> vigo: and thanks alot
[12:08] <andrewubuntu> bazhang: when i started up synaptic package manager an error occured. the error is: E: Problem parsing dependency Depends
[12:08] <andrewubuntu> E: Error occurred while processing metacity (NewVersion1)
[12:08] <andrewubuntu> E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/dpkg/status
[12:08] <andrewubuntu> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[12:08] <andrewubuntu> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[12:08] <FloodBot3> andrewubuntu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:09] <bazhang> andrewubuntu, what about via command line
[12:09] <benste> HI I guess you all know about the FF3.5 flash fullscreen bug, which is solved by changing something in /usr/lib/firefox-3.5.1/firefox.sh - this works pretty well, but does so know what to do to make this thing applied for guest user too?
[12:09] <MartinE> hi all
[12:09] <buzz2> Jerib iceroot: i have 20 developers sitting on the terminals connecting my svn server so how will i authenticate all 20 users.
[12:09] <bazhang> !info scim
[12:09] <andrewubuntu> bazhang: sorry, but i don't know how to do it by command line.
[12:09] <tavi_> MerlinW: ?
[12:09] <bazhang> andrewubuntu, sudo apt-get remove scim
[12:10] <andrewubuntu> bazhang: okie, trying now
[12:10] <hosoka1> hello
[12:10] <bazhang> andrewubuntu, followed by your sudo pass
[12:10] <hosoka1> I have a question regarding Mplayer
[12:10] <Blizzerand> Johnny2 : Try downloading G-parted in Ubuntu and remove the Windows partition ( After backing up everything)
[12:10] <MerlinW> andrewubuntu, sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get autorclean && sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get install -f
[12:10] <hosoka1> is there anyone that has experience with Mplayer ?
[12:10] <JenniferB> moncky: i want to know how the connection url should look like ... is it https://myip:22/myproject ?
[12:10] <benste> hosoka1: a lillte bit - what's you Q ?
[12:10] <bazhang> http://www.ubuntupocketguide.com/download_main.html andrewubuntu there is an excellent guide at this url
[12:11] <MartinE> hi all
[12:11] <tavi_> MerlinW: so?
[12:11] <Blizzerand> Johnny2 : You still there
[12:11] <hosoka1> Sinse I upgraded to 9.10 the last days I noticed that I can't open Mplayer anymore.
[12:11] <vigo> Maximo: This one covers it much closer to the question as posted: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=e6e4a96b4cb1040f19c25a23fa2082a6&t=766683&highlight=microsoft+multimedia+player
[12:11] <hosoka1> I reinstalled and nothing works or opens.
[12:11] <andrewubuntu> bazhang: doing via terminal it says that resouurce is temporary unavailable
[12:11] <MartinE> I installed Ubuntu 9.04 yesterday through windows and have a dual boot system now. Can anyone tell me how much storage space I have available when I boot up Ubuntu ?
[12:11] <hosoka1> The other default one like Totemplayer works well.
[12:11] <benste>  hosoka1: please put the username to who you're talkling infornt of your question !
[12:12] <tavi_> MerlinW: what you ahve gave me are two print screen ? how can i modify?
[12:12] <tavi_> which i modify
[12:12] <tavi_> ?
[12:12] <benste> hosoka1: did you try to start mplayer from gnome-terminal ?
[12:12] <hosoka1> no
[12:12] <Blizzerand> MartinE : You installed Ubuntu inside windows right
[12:12] <hosoka1> what is the command for it ?
[12:12] <hosoka1> benste ?
[12:12] <Emry> Hey, has anyone here used the option to install Ubuntu "Under Windows" _
[12:12] <Emry> ?
[12:13] <benste> hosoka1: give it a try and post the output to paste.ubuntu.com "mplayer"
[12:13] <JenniferB> join /svn
[12:13] <andrewubuntu> bazhang: i'm reading the guide now, but i don't know why i can't uninstall scim now.
[12:13] <DJones> hosoka1: As you've installed 9.10 which is still in development, you need to ask any questions in #ubuntu+1 rather than here
[12:13] <Blizzerand> MartinE : What do you mean by how much storage space is available <sorry>
[12:13] <andrewubuntu> bazhang: i probably will reboot ubuntu and try again
[12:13] <ubuntu_live> hi to everyone. I've nedd foe little help for discover my mobo model for this pc with ubuntu as like everest in windows
[12:13] <benste> hosoka1: you'd better use gmplayer in gnome terminal
[12:13] <andrewubuntu> bazhang: be back in five
[12:13] <hosoka1> at the moment I have the Mplayer
[12:13] <spamlover> @Emry - Yes it is a little slower but it makes it nice to go back to windows if you need it.
[12:13] <vigo> For 9.10 I think that is ubuntu+1
[12:13] <tavi_> now i modified
[12:13] <tavi_> what i do now?
[12:14] <hosoka1> how to open this one from terminal Benste ?
[12:14] <benste> open a terminal
[12:14] <benste> and write the name
[12:14] <benste> hosoka1: followed by enter
[12:14] <hosoka1> Benste is it now mplayer or gmplayer ?
[12:14] <baobao> mplayer sucks
[12:15] <hosoka1> Benste, I mean in terminal
[12:15] <benste> hosoka1: gmplayer is only a grafical user interface for mplayer it's the same software but with something to click :-)
[12:15] <Wizzup> type `gmplayer' in terminal
[12:15] <tavi_> indus:
[12:16] <indus> hi
[12:16] <benste> hosoka1: working?
[12:16] <tavi_> i modified that
[12:16] <indus> yes dear what is it?
[12:16] <GarbledScreenAft> jrib: how do I FORCE gnome to use metacity besides "metacity --replace" which just gives an error
[12:17] <MartinE> yes Blizzerand
[12:17] <tavi_> now what i do?
[12:17] <jrib> GarbledScreenAft: did you try the .gnomerc method I suggested?
[12:17] <MartinE> so now i have a dual boot pc
[12:17] <xlq> How do I find which package provides a particular file, *even if the package is not installed*?
[12:17] <tavi_> so what i do now?
[12:17] <indus> tavi_: now ctl alt backspace after savingfile
[12:17] <jrib> xlq: apt-file or just use packages.ubuntu.com
[12:18] <baobao> there is no player that play full screen on external monitor
[12:18] <baobao> including mplayer
[12:18] <hosoka1> ok, Benste not working and pasted for you
[12:18] <xlq> jrib: ahh, thanks
[12:18] <hosoka1> I post the output to paste.ubuntu.com "mplayer"
[12:18] <benste> hosoka1: would you be so kind to give me a link to it ? :-)
[12:18] <MartinE> Blizzerand?
[12:19] <hosoka1> Benste: http://paste.ubuntu.com/235865/
[12:19] <prakash_> hi there
[12:19] <benste> thanks
[12:19] <asker> hello, what's wrong? the upperbar and lowerbar to xfce4 dont show
[12:19] <Blizzerand> MartinE : Could you please clear your question . <its quite difficult to scroll up lol>
[12:20] <MartinE> sorry Blizzerand, what I meant by how much storage space is how much disk space did ubuntu allocate?
[12:20] <Guest25278> #ubuntu-tr
[12:20] <om26er> xserver-xorg-video-intel 2.8.0 on jaunty can any1 help me with that
[12:20] <asker> hello, why?
[12:21] <GarbledScreenAft> jrib: type .gnomerc at the console does nothing. It can't find the file.
[12:21] <Blizzerand> MartinE : Go to ubuntu terminal and try sudo fdisk -l . From that you probably should be able to get what you need .
[12:21] <jrib> GarbledScreenAft: create a ~/.gnomerc with "export WINDOW_MANAGER=metacity"
[12:21] <MartinE> I'm at work right now and not next to the PC. Thing is Ubuntu didn't ask what size to make the parition which is why I'm asking or did it not actuanlly create a partition ?
[12:22] <benste> hosoka1: I'm sorry but I didn't understand enough there, looks like it's mal configured, did you try to completely remove and reinstall it?
[12:22] <iceroot> buzz2: with 20 accounts if you want to see what developer is submitting something
[12:22] <greengiant> how can i run a deb file from the command prompt
[12:22] <hosoka1> Benste: yes
[12:22] <MerlinW> MartinE, df -h
[12:22] <gartral> anyone have any luck with e17 on ubuntu?
[12:23] <hosoka1> Benste: it was working fine before.
[12:23] <MartinE> MerlinW, what does that do?
[12:23] <buzz2> greengiant: sudo dpkg - i <location>
[12:23] <MerlinW> disk spaces
[12:23] <bullgard4> jrib: Can you recommend an IRC channel that deals with sound issues?
[12:23] <hosoka1> I believe since I have made some last updates, it doesn't open again.
[12:23] <benste> hosoka1: I'm sorry but you'd better ask someone else here
[12:23] <MerlinW> and fdisk -l for the hdd-s
[12:23] <MartinE> did ubuntu actually create a new partition when you do an install within windows?
[12:23] <buzz2> iceroot: so what should i do all access going through a single user on server
[12:23] <gartral> bullgard4: depends on what sound system/server your running
[12:23] <jrib> bullgard4: this one I guess.  #alsa for help with alsa
[12:24] <hosoka1> Benste: ok, thanks for your assist.
[12:24] <iceroot> buzz2: depending what you want of course
[12:24] <bullgard4> jrib: Thank you very much.
[12:24] <iceroot> buzz2: svn account != system-account
[12:24] <MerlinW> MartinE, wubi creating a virtual image partition
[12:24] <hosoka1> Is there anyone here that can inform me why my Mplayer doesn't open anymore ?
[12:24] <Jeen> есть кто живой?;d
[12:24] <iceroot> hosoka1: type mplayer in terminal and see the output
[12:24] <iceroot> !ru | Jeen
[12:24] <q0_0p> is cron necessary to have?
[12:25] <bullgard4> gartral:  The Integrated circuit  'Realtek ALC202' is described as an "AC'97 compatible audio codec having several stereo and mono inputs and outputs." Why does my laptop computer need an additional IC 'ALI 5451' (an ALSA mixer)?
[12:25] <MartinE> never heard of a virtual partition before. Does that mean I could use the entire space of my hard drive to store files or does it create a specific size virtual partition?
[12:25] <iceroot> q0_0p: yes
[12:25] <q0_0p> iceroot, why
[12:25] <Fred81> New Ubuntu 9.04 User! Had Fedora Core 10 imho = bad distribution. I'm developing in Python3
[12:25] <iceroot> q0_0p: because some programs are usng it
[12:25] <tavi_> hy
[12:25] <MerlinW> MartinE, virtual partition = one big file on ur windows partition :D
[12:25] <tavi_> indus
[12:25] <tavi_> i done that
[12:25] <iceroot> q0_0p: logrotate for e.g.
[12:25] <tavi_> now....
[12:25] <q0_0p> iceroot, ah i c
[12:26] <q0_0p> iceroot, thanks
[12:26] <Blizzerand> MartinE : Sorry but it should have asked you which drive do you want to install ubuntu in . (ie Drive D ,E)
[12:26] <iceroot> q0_0p: np
[12:26] <gartral> bullgard4: ahh, im not sure, but my cs46xx in my desktop is the same way, i think its partialy the way ALSA handels direct sound output vs buffered or piped output
[12:26] <Fred81> how can i resize my partition for / ROOT (its getting too small only 81% free:-/)
[12:26] <MerlinW> MartinE, slow, but simple for testing. if u really to want use Ubuntu, install from CD
[12:26] <q0_0p> iceroot, ijust wish my laptop was quiet
[12:26] <hosoka1> iceroot: I have done that and can have the output for you.
[12:26] <hosoka1> do not see this opening the program
[12:26] <Fred81> oh i mean 81 % full
[12:26] <MartinE> it did install from CD. Took about 10 minutes
[12:26] <bullgard4> gartral: Thank you for your comment.
[12:26] <iceroot> !paste | hosoka1
[12:26] <MartinE> I installed it selecting install within windows option
[12:26] <q0_0p> iceroot, every single time i do something the fan turns on or cron
[12:27] <nfxdg> topic
[12:27] <iceroot> q0_0p: cron is not the problem, install powertop  this will show you what is awaking the system
[12:27] <q0_0p> k
[12:27] <Blizzerand> MartinE : So it didn't ask you which drive you would like to install ubuntu
[12:27] <GarbledScreenAft> jrib: type .gnomerc at the console does nothing. It can't find the file.,HRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
[12:27] <MerlinW> MartinE, i mean install from cd from boot prompt, not from in windows...
[12:27] <MerlinW> >D
[12:27] <MartinE> Blizzerand, no. I only have one HDD anyway
[12:27] <Fred81> Ubuntu 9.04 needs approx. ~ 300 MB RAM on my Sys (1 GB RAM, Nforce2 400, 3000+ AMD 32-Bit CPU), Win XP SP 3 needs ~500-600MB (double-size!!)
[12:27] <iceroot> q0_0p: sudo apt-get install powertop && sudo powertop
[12:27] <tavi_> when i restarted showed me that he cant start because use low settings i do nto knwo how.... and i could't see all cause it was don on screen ...i reseted the pc and after reset i saw same screen entirely now and i setted nvidia graphic card from a list so now has 800*600 but no more
[12:28] <jrib> GarbledScreenAft: nano ~/.gnomerc     so you "create" it
[12:28] <Dextorion> hosoka1, perhaps this doesnt work as it did before but.. Try reinstalling package mplayer-skins
[12:28] <indus> tavi_: yes?
[12:28] <tavi_> when i restarted showed me that he cant start because use low settings i do nto knwo how.... and i could't see all cause it was don on screen ...i reseted the pc and after reset i saw same screen entirely now and i setted nvidia graphic card from a list so now has 800*600 but no more
[12:28] <asker> hello, what's wrong? the upperbar and lowerbar to xfce4 dont show
[12:28] <tavi_> what to do for 1024*800
[12:28] <tavi_> ?
[12:28] <Fred81> install nvidia drivers from APPLICATIONS /ADD/REMOVE @ tavi_
[12:28] <Fred81> search for nvidia
[12:29] <fophillips>  /af
[12:29] <fophillips> Uh
[12:29] <indus> tavi_: so now you have 800*600?
[12:29] <Blizzerand> MartinE : Any ways it uses one of the C or D drives for the installation (I think) or as MerlinW said try dual booting . ( Its much more fun)
[12:29] <indus> good
[12:29] <tavi_> yes
[12:29] <tavi_> bun no more
[12:29] <Blizzerand> lol
[12:29] <q0_0p> iceroot, it keeps on asking me enable usb suspend
[12:29] <indus> tavi_: did you edit xorf.conf?
[12:29] <Fred81> i have 1280*1024 @ 19 ''  RUNNING FINE IN UBUNTU 9 .04
[12:29] <MartinE> Blizzerand, as i said before i do have dual booting
[12:29] <hosoka1> Dextorion and iceroot here the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/235872/
[12:29] <tavi_> and at nvidia -settings on terminal i have You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver. Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server
[12:29] <Fred81> NVIDIA 6600GT
[12:29] <tavi_> indus yes
[12:29] <tavi_> and now i have this
[12:30] <indus> tavi_: huh what? then nvidia is not enabled
[12:30] <q0_0p> iceroot, how do i find a bluetooth module
[12:30] <Fred81> ok bye
[12:30] <Fred81> quit
[12:30] <Fred81> quit()
[12:30] <indus> tavi_: need to restart pc then
[12:30] <Blizzerand> MartinE : But Not within Windows (I think thats what I meant)
[12:30] <iceroot> q0_0p: for what?
[12:30] <tavi_> ok
[12:30] <Raydiation> hi, where can i find the changelogs of programs (linux-image in my case?) i upgraded via synaptic and id like to know what it fixes
[12:30] <q0_0p> its saying enable usb suspend
[12:30] <q0_0p> for bluetooth module
[12:31] <q0_0p> iceroot, and it keeps on asking me
[12:31] <iceroot> q0_0p: yes, its showing you some ways to increase the battery-life
[12:31] <Dextorion> hosoka1, that only tells that you have mplayer installed. As you should gmplayer is just a graphical front end for mplayer, and thats where your problem is.
[12:31] <q0_0p> iceroot, how would i find that module
[12:31] <q0_0p> lsmod gives me a lot of stuff i dont know
[12:31] <indus> Raydiation: go to history
[12:31] <Dextorion> hosoka1, the problem is that gmplayer can not find any default skin to use.
[12:31] <iceroot> q0_0p: you dont have to find it, there is a key to press, so that is step is done
[12:31] <iceroot> q0_0p: read the output of powertop
[12:31] <q0_0p> but i press and it still keeps on asking me
[12:32] <q0_0p> so obviously i must disable it
[12:32] <q0_0p> by modprobe -r
[12:32] <hosoka1> Dextorion: how to have the default skin installed ?
[12:32] <iceroot> q0_0p: sorry dont know
[12:32] <scunizi> What's a good hyperterminal replacement?
[12:32] <Dextorion> hosoka1, so.. mplayer works fine. gmplayer will use mplayer just fine. but gmplayer cant find any skin in /usr/share/mplayer/skins/default/skin
[12:33] <Raydiation> indus: i only see which packages i upgraded there
[12:33] <indus> Raydiation: which ones do u want to know?
[12:33] <legend2440> asker: in terminal type   xfce4-panel  does that bring them back ? if it does then add that command to Autostart so it runs everytime you boot
[12:33] <hosoka1> Dextorion: how to have this solved ?
[12:33] <Raydiation> indus: linux-image-2.6.28-14-generic (2.6.28-14.47)
[12:33] <hosoka1> Dextorion: is gmplayer and mplayer all the same tool ?
[12:34] <sjlkg> hi, since removing a partition and converting my other partitions to ext4, the ubuntu splash screen dissappears at some point while booting and i'm getting text output. why?
[12:34] <erUSUL> scunizi: minicom
[12:34] <Paddy_NI> hosoka1: GMPlayer is the gnome front-end to mplayer
[12:34] <scunizi> erUSUL: thanks..
[12:34] <Dextorion> hosoka1, try sudo apt-get install mplayer-skins, or sudo apt-get install gmplayer
[12:34] <Raydiation> indus: ah ok i found the changes on launchpad https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security/+archive/ppa/+build/1132300
[12:34] <Raydiation> ty
[12:34] <indus> Raydiation: click on package , then go to package changelog
[12:35] <tavi_> back
[12:35] <tavi_> nowww
[12:35] <Dextorion> hosoka1, yes. mplayer and gmplayer is the same. mplayer for console, and gmplayer for graphical frontend.
[12:35]  * Beyecixramd back.
[12:35] <tavi_> again whit 640*430
[12:35] <Raydiation> indus: wow, this is cool too :)
[12:35] <indus> Raydiation: :)
[12:35] <tavi_> and 320*240
[12:35] <Dextorion> hosoka1, when yoiu installed gmplayer, did you use "sudo apt-get" ?
[12:35] <tavi_> what to do?
[12:35] <uknow> is it possible to boot vista from ubuntu from a diffrent hd
[12:35] <indus> Raydiation: ultra cool
[12:35] <Raydiation> heheh :)
[12:36] <Paddy_NI> !grub | uknow
[12:36] <tavi_> so what to do now?
[12:36] <indus> tavi_: i dont know
[12:36] <fotoflo> HELP! I am going to die! I messed up my apache configuration, so i apt-get remove and then apt-get isntall ed it
[12:36] <hosoka1> I installed the mplayer skin and it works again.
[12:36] <indus> tavi_: post this question on the forums /search the forums
[12:36] <fotoflo> now... nothing is working
[12:36] <hosoka1> I must have removed this by mistake
[12:36] <Raydiation> indus: its a bit strangely named in german so i didnt find it/wasnt sure :)
[12:36] <tavi_> indus
[12:37] <tavi_> let's install that glx
[12:37] <Blizzerand> Paddy_NI : loll that grub had nothing to do with the topic
[12:37] <erUSUL> fotoflo: did you purge it or just remove it ?
[12:37] <fotoflo> remove
[12:37] <fotoflo> should I purge?
[12:37] <indus> Raydiation: whats it called in german? guten change? :)
[12:37] <Paddy_NI> Blizzerand: yeah ultimately it did
[12:37] <Dextorion> hosoka1, great
[12:37] <erUSUL> fotoflo: without purge the configuration files are kept (no matter how messed up they are)
[12:37] <Blizzerand> Paddy_NI  : lol
[12:37] <uknow> nah not dual boot
[12:37] <Raydiation> indus: xD, download protocoll of changes
[12:37] <tavi_> indus?
[12:37] <indus> tavi_: yes
[12:37] <erUSUL> fotoflo: so if you want to start from scratch purge all apache related packages
[12:38] <legend2440> sjlkg: thats easy to fix. ok to pm?
[12:38] <hosoka1> Dextorion: so I will skip to install the gmplayer
[12:38] <indus> tavi_: ok try it
[12:38] <fotoflo> erUSUL: ok
[12:38] <Blizzerand> uknow : You mean boot vista from ubuntu <sorry if i am wrong>
[12:38] <hosoka1> I installed the Mplayer via the GUI
[12:38] <sjlkg> legend2440: yep, go ahead :)
[12:38] <Dextorion> hosoka1, yes. the problem was the skin.
[12:38] <tavi_> indus
[12:38] <Dextorion> bye bye
[12:38] <tavi_> check ths out
[12:38] <hosoka1> alright, I will leave this room. Thanks to all for your assistance.
[12:38] <hosoka1> bye.
[12:38] <fotoflo> erUSUL: ok i purged it, now to isntall it, and all php packages, what do I have to do?
[12:39] <tavi_> if i mark invidia-xconfig for installing in the synaptic show me to uninstall the nvidia glx-new
[12:39] <tavi_> so
[12:39] <tavi_> ?
[12:39] <indus> tavi_: dont install that package
[12:39] <erUSUL> fotoflo: i do not know what you have in mind... just jumped in to point out the difference between purge and remove
[12:39] <indus> tavi_: install nvidia-glx
[12:39] <erUSUL> !lamp | fotoflo if you want a lamp setup follow instructions here
[12:40] <fotoflo> erUSUL: i had a working lamp setup earlier today...
[12:40] <tavi_> may be a problem to an update made by ubuntu?
[12:40] <erUSUL> fotoflo: so you know what to do now... good
[12:41] <tavi_> installed
[12:41] <tavi_> now what i do?
[12:41] <indus> tavi_: well, press ctl-alt-backspave
[12:41] <vigo> whoops
[12:41] <fotoflo> apache2 is already the newest version.
[12:41] <fotoflo> i just did a purge
[12:41] <Paddy_NI> !dontzap | tavi
[12:41] <fotoflo> why is apache2 the newest version?
[12:41] <znag> anyone know how to change the menu toggle in screen? i want to use mc in screen but the mc menu hotkey is also bound to F9. Checked in screenrc but its not defined there
[12:42] <fotoflo> it didnt purge any files
[12:42] <fotoflo> !
[12:42] <FreeDownload> http://files.getdropbox.com/u/169177/UbuTaza.jpg  n_n!
[12:44] <pekuja> is there a way to switch mouse buttons 2 and 3 in X?
[12:44] <uknow_> hey i have i686 arch but  the cd is for x84 amd64 whats  can or cant do
[12:44] <uknow_> will it work or no
[12:44] <indus> uknow_: you cant install that '
[12:44] <ubuntu> HI everybody I have a issue with installing ubuntu: I loaded a the live cd and it sees some partitions that I have on the harddisk and it mounts them on the desktop; but when i go to install the system, it cannot find such partitions anymore and it sees the disk as whole empty :-/ Can anyone help me out with this issue?
[12:45] <ubuntu> *the live cd
[12:45] <jrib> uknow_: your system is not 64bit?
[12:45] <jrib> ubuntu: unmount the partitions
[12:45] <uknow_> no i guess not
[12:45] <pekuja> I have a multitouch touchpad and by default I have to use three fingers to do a right click, and two fingers for a middle click.
[12:45] <scunizi> uknow_: i686 is x86 .. if you don't have a dual core machine then the 64 bit version won't load
[12:45] <Leoneof> hi
[12:45] <indus> uknow_: mm yeah what sysatem is yours?
[12:46] <indus> scunizi: even a dual core machine could be 32 bit
[12:46] <indus> scunizi: intel
[12:46] <indus> older
[12:46] <mataks> how to enable direct rendering ?
[12:46] <uknow_> what part
[12:46] <indus> uknow_: is your processor 32 bit or 64
[12:46] <ubuntu> jrib: they already are
[12:46] <iceroot> scunizi: what has dual-core to do with 64bit?
[12:46] <Beyecixramd> mataks: It should be enabled by default
[12:46] <Leoneof> if i install a software, where this software will be installed, in which folder will be installed?
[12:46] <ubuntu> jrib: when i go to install
[12:46] <uknow_> how can i tell
[12:46] <scunizi> indus: yes.. but the point is if his machine isn't 64 bit then no matter how hard you try you won't load a 64 bit os
[12:46] <jrib> ubuntu: you said they were mounted, I said to UNmount them
[12:47] <iceroot> scunizi: there are also 64bit single-core cpus
[12:47] <indus> uknow_: uname -m
[12:47] <fotoflo> AHHAHAahHAH
[12:47] <fotoflo> it seems to be working
[12:47] <indus> like the athlon 64
[12:47] <jrib> Leoneof: dpkg -L PACKAGE  will tell you but why?
[12:47] <jiohdi> can you create a second acct and give it the same settings as the first? or put another way, where is the personal settings that can be copied?
[12:47] <fotoflo> SSL is still FUBAR, but... hey, better then nothing
[12:47] <jrib> !who | uknow_
[12:47] <mataks> Beyecixramd,  but mine is not.. i type glxgears in terminal i get error msg about direct rendering but if i type SUDO glxgears i don't get the error msg..
[12:47] <jrib> jiohdi: in ~/.*
[12:47] <Beyecixramd> mataks: are you in the video group? (your user)
[12:47] <uknow_> yeah i686
[12:48] <indus> mataks: go to menu>system>admin>haradware drivers
[12:48] <Leoneof> jrib, i want to see it, like Windows have full path of the software
[12:48] <uknow_> indus:yeah 1686
[12:48] <indus> uknow_: then you need the non amd 64 version
[12:48] <ubuntu> jrib: yeah sorry I wrong speaking... I mean such partitions are mountable on the desktop but when i go to install they aren't shown :/
[12:48] <jiohdi> jrib, I am a noob to all this... what does that mean in stupid
[12:48] <vigo> !aptitude
[12:48] <mataks> Beyecixramd,  what you mean? im jjust new in linux
[12:48] <jrib> Leoneof: k but you should never really touch those files unless it's to configure something in /etc/ for example
[12:48] <DaZ> Leoneof, this is not windows
[12:48] <iceroot> uknow_: to see if your cpu can handel 64 bit cat /proc/cpuinfo   uname will only tell the architektur of your current running os
[12:48] <ubuntu> *jrib: I wrong speaked
[12:48] <Beyecixramd> mataks: have you installed Ubuntu by default? did this happen before
[12:48] <DaZ> jrib, bs
[12:48] <indus> ubuntu just run the partition manager from system>administraion and it will mount it
[12:48] <newlinuser> hello every body
[12:48] <indus> ubuntu its a bug
[12:49] <uknow_> iceroot: yea its i686
[12:49] <Twittery> !hi:newlinuser
[12:49] <indus> iceroot: incorrect , uname -m lists machine type
[12:49] <iceroot> uknow_: and why need 64bit? you have 4gb+ ram?
[12:49] <mataks> Beyecixramd, yes i installed by default..
[12:49] <jrib> DaZ: it's not bs...
[12:49] <andrewubuntu> hello i've already removed SCIM from my notebook
[12:49] <Leoneof> Ubuntu also have REGISTERY like in Windows that store the settings of software?
[12:49] <indus> iceroot: man uname
[12:49] <iceroot> indus: hm, ok
[12:49] <ubuntu> indus: a bug? so how can i solve that?
[12:49] <andrewubuntu> firefox is working fine
[12:49] <andrewubuntu> ;-)
[12:49] <newlinuser> hi twittery
[12:49] <Beyecixramd> mataks: do you know how to make new users?
[12:49] <sjk> hello
[12:49] <mataks> Beyecixramd, nope
[12:49] <DaZ> jrib, unfortunately it is
[12:49] <Twittery> newlinuser : Need any help
[12:49] <newlinuser> yes
[12:50] <indus> ubuntu: just open the partition manager from menu,then check whether you see them on desktop
[12:50] <jrib> DaZ: why do you believe that?
[12:50] <DaZ> or i'm insanely lucky
[12:50] <sjk> don't know
[12:50] <ubuntu> Leoneof: nope
[12:50] <DaveL_> mornin folks
[12:50] <uknow_> iceroot:umm not sure
[12:50] <pekuja> found a way to switch the mouse buttons
[12:50] <andrewubuntu> sorry, but i forgot the name of the guy who helped me out just now with the terminal comands.
[12:50] <newlinuser> i installed flash player but nothing is right
[12:50] <andrewubuntu> thank you, whoever you are ;-)
[12:50] <pekuja> xinput set-button-map 1 3 2
[12:50] <newlinuser> i can't see some video
[12:50] <pekuja> ermn
[12:50] <pekuja> xinput set-button-map Mouse0 1 3 2
[12:50] <Twittery> newlinuser : Please specify
[12:50] <DaZ> jrib, i remove,move,add and link libraries when i need to and... it still works
[12:50] <Leoneof> ubuntu: so where the settings of software will store?
[12:50] <newlinuser> for exaple with youtube
[12:50] <jrib> DaZ: sure you *can*, I said you *shouldn't*
[12:50] <aaronvarghese> helo
[12:50] <aaronvarghese> elo
[12:51] <indus> lo
[12:51] <newlinuser> i can't see there video but in daiylimotion i can
[12:51] <ubuntu> Leoneof: usually in something like /etc/nameofthesoftware.conf
[12:51] <Leoneof> ok, thank you
[12:51] <DaZ> if something is wrong and he knows what he's doing, he should
[12:51] <ubuntu> np
[12:51] <jrib> jiohdi: ~ means your $HOME, usually /home/username.  So by ~/.* I mean all of the files in your $HOME that begin with a '.' character.  These are hidden by default so use ctrl-h or View -> Show hidden files to see them
[12:51] <ubuntu> indus, the partion manager also can't see the partitions :/
[12:52] <mataks> Beyecixramd,  how to add new user?
[12:52] <indus> ubuntu:in terminal mount -a?
[12:52] <jrib> DaZ: in general, probably not
[12:52] <Beyecixramd> mataks: yes, you know how?
[12:52] <indus> ubuntu:when you open partition manager what do u see?
[12:52] <jiohdi> jrib, so if I copy them to the new user all the settings will be turned to the old user preferences, right? or do I have to do something more than copy?
[12:52] <uknow_> clflush size
[12:52] <jrib> DaZ: if there's a problem with the package and you know what you are doing, then you *should* file a bug, patch the package, and use the updated package
[12:53] <ubuntu> indus, partition manager says unallocated space
[12:53] <ubuntu> i try mount -a
[12:53] <Blizzerand> !flash
[12:53] <ubuntu> *all* unallocated space
[12:53] <DaveL_> ahh Ubuntu finally updated the Kernel :)
[12:53] <jrib> jiohdi: yep, that should work.  You'll need to make sure the new user owns them though
[12:53] <jrib> !permissions > jiohdi
[12:53] <indus> ubuntu do u see any partitions?
[12:53] <uknow_> what clflush size ,eam
[12:53] <uknow_> mean
[12:53] <ubuntu> indus, in mount -a?
[12:53] <indus> ubuntu no, when you run the partition manager from system.administration
[12:54] <ubuntu> nope
[12:54] <ubuntu> all unallocated software
[12:54] <indus> what nope
[12:54] <scunizi> indus: I have the same issue with gparted on 8.04.. it says unallocated for the drive despite it having 5 partitions.. ubuntu boots but windows won't anymore.. :(
[12:54] <ubuntu> but with mount it says they are there
[12:54] <AdvoWork> is it possible to limit a certain folder to only be viewable by 2 users?say usera, userb?
[12:54] <jrib> !permissions > AdvoWork
[12:54] <indus> scunizi: you should restart partition manager again , itoo faced same issues with my seagate
[12:54] <jrib> AdvoWork: create a group for them
[12:54] <janisozaur> AdvoWork: you can make it accessible to a group and add users to this group
[12:54] <indus> scunizi: or reboot live cd again
[12:55] <zipito> good day community
[12:55] <ubuntu> indus
[12:55] <ubuntu> with "mount" i can see the parttions
[12:55] <indus> scunizi: or i think i tried typing parted in terminal
[12:55] <zipito> are there precompiled gnome-shell packages for ubuntu 9.04 ?
[12:55] <indus> ubuntu ok good
[12:55] <indus> ubuntu how many partitions do u have?
[12:56] <indus> scunizi: what is the problenm you have?
[12:56] <ryanakca> How can I enabled glx on an intel card? I have ``Section "Module" Load "glx" EndSection in my xorg.conf, but according to xorg.conf, it doesn't get loaded....
[12:56] <ryanakca> sorry, according to Xorg.0.log it doesn't get loaded
[12:57] <asger> I need helt with flash. Can't get it to work
[12:57] <scunizi> indus: windows doesn't boot anymore.. no worries there.. but I want to shrink the parititon to make more room for ubuntu (already installed).. I might have to use the live cd.. even starting gparted from terminal results in nothing
[12:57] <ryanakca> !flash > asger
[12:57] <janisozaur> asger: ia32 or amd64?
[12:57] <indus> scunizi: try with sudo
[12:57] <scunizi> indus: same
[12:57] <indus> scunizi: what does mount tell u
[12:57] <indus> scunizi: i suggest using gparted live cd then
[12:58] <scunizi> indus: gparted loads but doesn't recognize the drive as being partitioned
[12:58] <yeahuyen> can someone help me? i am having trouble with ubuntu, no sound
[12:58] <indus> scunizi: hmm
[12:58] <AdvoWork> would i have to remove other permissions too in order to make it secure? thinking about it, I only want it accessible by usera
[12:58] <indus> scunizi: how many partitions? what does mount tell u?
[12:58] <indus> scunizi: also mount -a u tried?
[12:59] <scunizi> indus: sudo fdisk -l shows 8 partitions
[12:59] <ubuntu> indus: i can mount them from the menu in ubuntu, but ubuntu can't recognize them whn i go to instakll the system
[13:00] <FloridaGuy> think lastnight..something was telling me..ubuntu is your distro...im always going from distro to distro...but lastnight nothing eccept ubuntu would install on my system.
[13:00] <ubuntu> *install
[13:00] <indus> ubuntu:no problem, i suggest you use partition manager to edit the partitions first.
[13:00] <janisozaur> is current version of gnash actually competitive with adobe flash? in terms of compatiblity and performance
[13:00] <indus> ubuntu and do the install later
[13:00] <yeahuyen> nm, its working
[13:01] <AdvoWork> im doing: chown -R user SECURE/ and its saying operation not permitted?
[13:01] <indus> AdvoWork: u forgot sudo
[13:01] <indus> but you probably used it
[13:01] <scunizi> AdvoWork: try sudo chown -R user:user SECURE/
[13:01] <asger> janisozaur, hm, i'm not sure
[13:01] <ubuntu> indus: yeah but i told you before than partition manager can't see the partitions and sees only "unallocated" space :)
[13:01] <ubuntu> *that
[13:01] <bazhang> janisozaur, not at all
[13:02] <janisozaur> asger: "uname -a", dos it say x86 or x86_64?
[13:02] <MerlinW> woah, VLC 1.01 powaa
[13:02] <janisozaur> bazhang: too bad :(
[13:02] <indus> ubuntu:funny, in partition editor i believe there is a refresh button
[13:02] <ubuntu> indus: i reopened it but still can't find the partitions
[13:02] <ubuntu> no refresh button
[13:03] <ruicosta> dlld
[13:03] <janisozaur> asger: i think it might be i586/i686 instead of x86
[13:03] <MerlinW> or amd64 :)
[13:03] <asger> janisozaur, yeah, it says i686
[13:03] <ubuntu> indus?
[13:04] <janisozaur> asger: then you should use flashplugin-nonfree from repos
[13:04] <indus> use gparted live cd
[13:04] <scunizi> ubuntu: are you currently using the live cd?
[13:04] <ubuntu> indus ok i try
[13:04] <ubuntu> scunizi yes
[13:04] <asger> janisozaur, i'm wuite new to ubuntu, what's repos?
[13:04] <indus> ubuntu scunizi install testdisk from synaptic
[13:04] <indus> i hear this works
[13:04] <janisozaur> asger: repo is short for repository, a place on the internet where you get software from
[13:05] <DaZ> asger, something like thepiratebay for linux
[13:05] <scunizi> ubuntu: then the gparted live cd won't make any difference .. the live cd has gparted on it..
[13:05] <asger> janisozaur, i'm pretty sure i already got that flashplugin installed
[13:05] <janisozaur> asger: run synaptic and search for this package, install it and restart your browser
[13:05] <ubuntu> hm
[13:05] <scunizi> indus: does that run a diagnostic on the drive?
[13:05] <Beyecixramd> DaZ: nice definition of "repository" lol
[13:05] <indus> yes
[13:05] <ubuntu> i try testdisk
[13:05] <indus> kind of repairs also, so probably gparted might see it better
[13:05] <bening> just joined
[13:05] <janisozaur> asger: "dpkg -l | grep -i flash" returns any hits?
[13:06] <indus> try it but backup please
[13:06] <janisozaur> asger: what browser do you use?
[13:06] <asger> janisozaur, firefox
[13:07] <ubuntu> indus ubuntu can't find testdisk
[13:07] <ubuntu> in repos
[13:07] <ubuntu> wth
[13:08] <ubuntu> should i download it manually?
[13:08] <asger> janisozaur, yeah, it get hits. comes up with some information on adobe flashplayer
[13:08] <janisozaur> asger: do you have file named /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so ?
[13:09] <indus> ubuntu thats impossible
[13:09] <indus> ubuntu sudo apt-get install testdisk
[13:09] <ubuntu> indus SUDO APT-GET INSTALL TESTDISK
[13:09] <ubuntu> yes
[13:09] <indus> ya
[13:09] <ubuntu> lol
[13:09] <scunizi> ubuntu: no caps though..
[13:09] <ubuntu> doesn't work
[13:09] <asger> janisozaur, how do i see if i got that file?
[13:09] <AdvoWork> any idea what number drwxrwx is?
[13:09] <pawel> cześć
[13:09] <ubuntu> ok sorry for caps
[13:09] <indus> scunizi: you installed?
[13:09] <janisozaur> !pl | pawel
[13:10] <scunizi> indus: installed and run.. it's telling me to reboot
[13:10] <indus> ubuntu iam using 8.04
[13:10] <jrib> AdvoWork: did you read the link ubottu gave you?  I should explain that and it should also explain that you never need the numbers
[13:10] <indus> scunizi: ok sure
[13:10] <bazhang> !cz | pawel
[13:10] <ubuntu> i'm on jaunty
[13:10] <jrib> s/I/It
[13:10] <scunizi> indus: back shortly
[13:10] <ubuntu> indus: i am on jaunty
[13:10] <indus> scunizi: but i think u try live cd now?
[13:10] <Beyecixramd> !en
[13:10] <janisozaur> asger: well, you can "ls /file/name" or go to it's directory using nautilus
[13:10] <indus> !info testdisk
[13:10] <pawel> jest tu kto??
[13:11] <ubuntu> indus, seems i have to enable repos
[13:11] <ubuntu> :)
[13:11] <indus> ubuntu ok its in universe, its enabled default i thought
[13:11] <jethro> i am having trouble finding the flash player for 8.10 AMD64 version
[13:11] <janisozaur> could somebody change the message for !pl? it says only about where can you get help in polish, it should also mention that we use only english here
[13:11] <iamleneko> why every laptops i have try ubuntu on, are heating so much ?
[13:12] <indus> jethro: there is no flash 64 bit version,there is an alpha though
[13:12] <DaZ> janisozaur, isn't it obvious?
[13:12] <jrib> janisozaur: you can suggest it ot the bot if you know polish
[13:12] <janisozaur> DaZ: all other messages do say so
[13:12] <asger> janisozaur, nautilus, how do i use that
[13:12] <indus> jethro: labs.adobe.com
[13:12] <bazhang> janisozaur, do yo know polish? could you suggest something?
[13:12] <jethro> indus does it work ok?
[13:12] <indus> jethro: ya it does as good or as bad as the 32 bit
[13:12] <janisozaur> bazhang: yes, just a sec
[13:12] <DaZ> indus, it works fine
[13:12] <ubuntu> indus yes it is in universe but universe is disabled here on jaunty live... abyway now i install it
[13:12] <ubuntu> *anyway
[13:13] <bazhang> janisozaur, /msg ubottu !pl is <reply> etc etc
[13:13] <indus> jethro: DaZ i have issues with it but anyways
[13:13] <janisozaur> bazhang: Na tym kanale używamy tylko języka angielskiego. Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl.
[13:13] <janisozaur> bazhang: oh, thanks
[13:13] <indus> jethro: just download it ,create a folder plugins in hidden mozilla dir in home and move it there
[13:13] <DaZ> !pl
[13:13] <jethro> indus thank you
[13:13] <indus> ubuntu aah forgot u on live cd
[13:13] <jiohdi> how do you create a new folder in the file system?
[13:14] <janisozaur> asger: it's default file manager in ubuntu
[13:14] <DaZ> ż,ć [;
[13:14] <indus> ubuntu scunizi if all fails, try the exclusive gparted live cd
[13:14] <indus> !gparted
[13:14] <ubuntu> indus ok
[13:14] <jiohdi> create folder is grayed out?
[13:14] <ubuntu> scunizi, you have the same mine problem?
[13:15] <asger> janisozaur, ah. Found the right place now. there are 3 files in that dir
[13:15] <indus> and you have the same guy who is trying to solve it too :D
[13:15] <wazzag> Import failed, keys were found but not imported, any ideas?
[13:15] <jethro> indus do i put the plugins folder inside the firefox folder or inside the mozilla folder?
[13:15] <Sj4lut_> I have radeon drivers for my card. But since 3d isn't working smooth I'd like to install propriatery drivers (fglrx) Can I follow howto on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#Install%20from%20ati.com%20%28latest%20version%20of%20drivers%29 without uninstalling radeon drivers first?
[13:15] <ubuntu> indus sorry i dont understand, does he have the same mine problem?
[13:15] <janisozaur> asger: do you have libflashplayer.so there?
[13:15] <indus> jethro: firefox is fine
[13:15] <indus> jethro: .firefox
[13:15] <jiohdi> are we not allowed to make folders anywhere but our home directory?
[13:15] <asger> jani, nope
[13:16] <asger> janisozaur, nope
[13:16] <indus> jethro: .firefox/plugins
[13:16] <indus> jiohdi: that is correct
[13:16] <janisozaur> asger: i think you should try purging flashplayer package and installing it again
[13:16] <BABER> hi
[13:16] <indus> jiohdi: or you can type in terminal sudo mkdir path
[13:16] <jiohdi> indus, then how do I make a backup folder for my preferences that I can copy to a new acct?
[13:16] <dhalsimm> hi I want to start an sh script after boot up. I try to add it /etc/init.d/myscripts.sh and to Startup Apps. But it didn't work. What should I do?
[13:16] <asger> ok. can u type the thing i need to enter in the terminal?
[13:17] <janisozaur> asger: alternatively, you can download binary .tgz from adobe and extract the aforementioned file to this directory
[13:17] <jiohdi> indus, thanks :)
[13:17] <indus> welcome
[13:17] <BABER> how can i create a shortcut for example from pidgin on desktop? ehat command?
[13:17] <indus> BABER: right click on desktop>create launcher>select application from internet/pidgin
[13:18] <dhalsimm> BABER: goto panel and Applications -> Internet and find pidgin. Right click it and select "add this launcher to desktop"
[13:18] <indus> or that too
[13:19] <ubuntu> indus sorry my english is not the best i am not english.. does scunizi have the same mine problem?
[13:19] <stewart> hi! I'm having trouble getting x2x to work to a box running karmic. seems like i need to enable GDM to allow TCP connections into X
[13:19] <indus> yes i think
[13:19] <ubuntu> btw, indus, i tries testdisk and it can find the partitions... what should i do with it?
[13:19] <janisozaur> !karmic | stewart
[13:19] <indus> ubuntu just run iti guess
[13:19] <jethro> indus i cannot get it to work, firefox still says that i dont have flash installed
[13:20] <indus> jethro: uninstall all previous versions of flash
[13:20] <Sj4lut_> I'm following the how to on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#Install%20from%20ati.com%20%28latest%20version%20of%20drivers%29 and when Executing sudo insmod /lib/modules/`uname -r`/volatile/fglrx.ko I get: insmod: can't read '/lib/modules/2.6.28-13-generic/volatile/fglrx.ko': No such file or directory What am I doing wrong. What do I have to install for this command to work?
[13:20] <asger> janisozaur, i'm trying to copy the file inside the right dir, but i don't have acces it says
[13:20] <indus> jethro: sudo apt-get remove flashplugin-nonfree
[13:20] <ubuntu> indus I did it and it sees the same exact partitions that there are. but ubuntu can't see them :/
[13:20] <indus> ubuntu did it find any problems with the partitions?
[13:20] <ubuntu> nope
[13:21] <indus> i suggest use a gparted live cd
[13:21] <hosoka> Is there anyone that can inform me how to select the correct country for my time settings ?
[13:21] <indus> and ask more questions here or in forums
[13:21] <janisozaur> asger: yes, you don't have. you have to be root "sudo cp libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/"
[13:21] <jethro> indus this is a fresh (yesterday) install of linux i dont think that i have an old one installed
[13:21] <hosoka> The country I am looking for is not on the list.
[13:21] <indus> jethro: aah ok restart firefox?
[13:22] <wazzag> move to the nearest country
[13:22] <indus> jethro: whats the output of uname -a
[13:22] <ubuntu> indus I will try twith another live cd (hardy or intrepid) then i lastly will try the gparted live... thanks for help ;)
[13:22] <ubuntu> *with
[13:22] <indus> ubuntu yes that is a good idea yes
[13:22] <ubuntu> goodbye
[13:22] <jethro> indus i did. i put the folder in .mozilla/firefox/plugins and also in .mozilla/plugins
[13:22] <indus> bye
[13:22] <ubuntu> ;)
[13:22] <durt> hosoka, use a counnty/city within the same time zone that uses the same daylight savings scheme.
[13:22] <ubuntu> :)
[13:22] <legend2440> Sj4lut_: did you enable the drivers in  System->Administration->Hardware Drivers?
[13:22] <indus> jethro: i need the output of uname -a
[13:22] <indus> in terminal
[13:22] <jethro> indus do you want me to type "uname -a" into terminal?
[13:23] <jethro> ok
[13:23] <asger> janisozaur, sry i'm a bit slow. I'm in the right dir with the terminal now
[13:23] <asger> janisozaur, what do i do then?
[13:23] <indus> jethro: also uname -m
[13:23] <jethro> indus Linux jethro-laptop 2.6.27-14-generic #1 SMP Fri Jul 24 23:49:25 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[13:23] <hosoka> durt: try to find the following ... Curacao with capital Willemstad, The Netherlands Antilles.
[13:23] <janisozaur> indus: it's included in -a
[13:23] <indus> jethro: aah ok nvm
[13:23] <lel> hey guys i have a question regarding creating a new user from console
[13:23] <Sj4lut_> legend2440: no, when going to system, admin, hardware driveres nothing is there. Also ubuntu installed radeon drivers by it self... I wanna fglrx for 3d support and not radeon...
[13:23] <jethro> indus x86_64
[13:24] <indus> janisozaur: i doubt it,i believe it lists OS version?
[13:24] <indus> janisozaur: aah sorry u correct
[13:24] <janisozaur> indus: you mean uname -r? anyway, run uname --help to learn
[13:24] <janisozaur> asger: sudo cp /path/to/libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/
[13:24] <indus> jethro: i suppose you did restart firefox?
[13:24] <janisozaur> indus: see above
[13:24] <durt> hosoka, -4 utc/gmt, no known adjustments for dst.
[13:25] <jethro> indus yes both times after moving the plugins folder
[13:25] <Sj4lut_> legend2440: as you can see when following how to something is goind wrong when entering: sudo insmod /lib/modules/`uname -r`/volatile/fglrx.ko since I get insmod: can't read '/lib/modules/2.6.28-13-generic/volatile/fglrx.ko': No such file or directory
[13:25] <indus> janisozaur: noted
[13:25] <durt> hosoka, http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=722
[13:25] <legend2440> Sj4lut_: amd stopped fglrx support for a lot of older cards. thats problably why nothing in  System->Administration->Hardware Drivers. they stopped supporting my radeon 9600 card so i had to get a nvidia card because the opensource radeon card wouldnt work with tv out
[13:25] <indus> jethro: which file have you downloaded?
[13:25] <hosoka> durt: the reason why I am asking is when I set Ubuntu in NL language, I do find the Country with the capital.
[13:25] <indus> jethro: give me the link
[13:25] <deathoncity> hello all i have one and a halv problems in ubuntu..i have vista too but i don't need it
[13:26] <hosoka> durt: in EN there is no way I cannot find the Country :-)
[13:26] <deathoncity> i have a tv tuner Hauppauge DVB-T
[13:26] <deathoncity> and i cannot configure it to work with my ubuntu
[13:27] <Sj4lut_> legend2440: I have radeon x700 pro
[13:27] <legend2440> Sj4lut_: look for your card here and see if there are any new drivers. i doubt it though    http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
[13:27] <indus> deathoncity: this card is supported
[13:27] <indus> deathoncity: what is the outout of lspci
[13:27] <indus> !paste | deathoncity
[13:27] <deathoncity> i catch only 10 channels with that
[13:27] <bazhang> http://www.linuxtv.org/ deathoncity this may help
[13:27] <indus> deathoncity: use tvtime
[13:27] <legend2440> Sj4lut_: i just looked up your card. it is no longer suppoerted
[13:27] <file_file> problem with nm-connector-editor/NetworkManger ,can't connect to internet with NetworkManger ,now i am online with pppoeconf
[13:28] <deathoncity> i've already been there make all steps but nothing
[13:28] <indus> deathoncity: its the best for me at least
[13:28] <jethro> indus i am looking for the page sorry it is being very slow
[13:28] <deathoncity> thanks..let see
[13:28] <legend2440> Sj4lut_: you are stuck with open source radeon drivers
[13:28] <Sj4lut_> legend2440: aha I see
[13:28] <indus> jethro: http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/
[13:29] <indus> jethro: at the end of the page
[13:29] <file_file> problem with nm-connector-editor/NetworkManger ,can't connect to internet with NetworkManger ,now i am online with pppoeconf
[13:29] <indus> jethro: untar the file and place libflashplayer.so in .mozilla/plugins
[13:30] <AdvoWork> is there a way to stop "root" from having access to a folder? so only a certain user has access?
[13:30] <janisozaur> AdvoWork: no
[13:30] <AdvoWork> janisozaur, how come?
[13:30] <asger> janisozaur, wow, i actually got it to work, the file is in place. My first ever copy using terminal
[13:30] <janisozaur> AdvoWork: but why would anyone use root, that's the question
[13:30] <indus> jethro: direct link http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplayer10/libflashplayer-10.0.22.87.linux-x86_64.so.tar.gz
[13:31] <janisozaur> AdvoWork: well, it is root
[13:31] <file_file> what's the problem with NetworkManger , it's icon is offline ,cross sign ,but i can browse, connecting with pppoe
[13:31] <steve007> -_-
[13:31] <janisozaur> asger: you'll get used to terminal pretty soon ;)
[13:31] <wazzag> And you can't beat a root
[13:31] <jethro> indus that is the same file that i was working with before
[13:31] <asger> janisozaur, yes, apparently it's the way to go ;)
[13:32] <asger> janisozaur, shoukd flash work now, or is there more work to be done
[13:32] <indus> jethro:is the folder called plugins and not Plugins?
[13:32] <janisozaur> asger: that's all
[13:32] <janisozaur> asger: just restart your browser
[13:33] <indus> jethro: ok just to make sure , in terminal sudo apt-get remove flashplugin-nonfree
[13:33] <jethro> indus yes should it be Plugins
[13:33] <indus> jethro: no
[13:33] <janisozaur> !tab | asger
[13:33] <indus> jethro: it should be small p
[13:33] <indus> jethro: thats your mistake :)
[13:33] <jethro> indus no it IS a small p
[13:33] <indus> jethro: lol ok
[13:34] <indus> jethro: sorry misunderstanding
[13:34] <jethro> indus np
[13:34] <indus> jethro: ok in synaptic , can you search for a package called, adobe-flashplugin
[13:35] <asger> janisozaur, aarg, it doesn't work
[13:35] <indus> jethro: also please visit youtube , the player works pretty well actually
[13:35] <indus> jethro: do u see any adobe stuff
[13:35] <janisozaur> asger: sorry, can't help you more now, i don't have ubuntu with head at the moment
[13:35] <jethro> indus so isntall the flashplugin in synaptic?
[13:36] <indus> jethro: nooooo
[13:36] <asger> janisozaur, allright. thx so far though
[13:36] <indus> jethro: just wanted to check if its installed
[13:36] <janisozaur> asger: try talking with indus, he's helping some other guy with flash
[13:36] <asger> janisozaur, ok, will do'
[13:36] <jethro> indus alot came up but nothing is checked as installed
[13:36] <indus> janisozaur: <gulp>
[13:36] <indus> jethro: thats good
[13:36] <Sj4lut_> If lspci says for my graphic card: 01:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV410 [Radeon X700 Pro (PCIE)] (Secondary) This mean it's pci-express?
[13:37] <indus> jethro: ok lets try moving the plugin to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[13:37] <indus> jethro: wait 1 sec
[13:37] <asger> indus, so, can i ask u to help me with flash?
[13:37] <legend2440> !cookie | indus :)
[13:37] <janisozaur> indus: just add his nick to all your messages, since it's exactly the same ;)
[13:37] <indus> ok ok :)
[13:38] <indus> jethro: try this in terminal sudo update-alternatives --config flash
[13:38] <indus> asger: whatis the problem?
[13:38] <indus> asger: 64 bit?
[13:38] <jethro> indus no alternatives for flash
[13:39] <indus> jethro: ya my mistake nvm
[13:39] <asger> indus, 32 i believe
[13:39] <indus> asger: 1 min i come to you later
[13:39] <asger> indus, well, i tryed installing all kinds of flash, but i still can't see flash content in firefo
[13:39] <indus> jethro: sudo cp <location of flash> /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[13:39] <asger> indus, thx alot. whenever u are rdy
[13:40] <indus> jethro: guaranteed to work,final step if doesnt work, reinstal firefox :)
[13:40] <legend2440> Sj4lut_: that card came as both agp and pci-e. looks like you have pci express
[13:40] <jethro> indus can i do that in the gui i already have that folder open?
[13:40] <indus> jethro: also.... delete all cookies
[13:40] <indus> jethro: aah gui ok type gksu nautilus
[13:41] <indus> jethro: also dont close home folder window
[13:41] <Scunizi> indus: well.. that hosed grub.. took me a while to find a live cd to boot to..
[13:41] <indus> Scunizi: aah sorry man
[13:41] <jethro> indus now i am confused. if i have flash extracted to my desktop how can i copy it to that folder?
[13:41] <indus> Scunizi: wait a sec please
[13:42] <indus> jethro: is the flash plugin on desktop
[13:42] <Scunizi> indus: I've got the grub link up
[13:42] <indus> jethro: do this in terminal cd Desktop
[13:42] <jethro> indus it is there and in the .mozilla/plugins
[13:43] <jethro> indus ok i did that
[13:43] <indus> jethro: cd Desktop
[13:43] <Sj4lut_> legend2440: ok thanx. One more tip... How can I choose apropriate graphic card for me (geforce) if I have only ddr2 ram. And out there are ddr3 graphic cards? Should I choose a graphic card with as much Hz and with ddr2 or with ddr3 ?
[13:43] <indus> jethro: ok now sudo cp libflaa........       /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[13:43] <indus> jethro: space after plugin  name
[13:44] <jethro> indus type the whole plugin name?
[13:44] <indus> jethro: just pressing tab auto completes file names babe :)
[13:44] <indus> !patience | indus
[13:44] <indus> man i keep forgetting to use private msg
[13:45] <indus> Scunizi: grub repair is pretty easy, but after that i suggest you download gparted live cd from their site
[13:45] <legend2440> Sj4lut_: i chose my nvidia card after asking in  channel #nvidia. i wanted one that nvidia would continue to support for linux for a long time
[13:45] <indus> !gparted | Scunizi
[13:45] <indus> asger: whats the problem you had?
[13:46] <asger> indus, flash won't work. can't see flash content, and i'm using firefox
[13:46] <indus> asger: hmm which version of ubuntu?
[13:46] <indus> asger: output of uname -a please
[13:46] <jethro> indus if that didnt work, you said reinstall firefox?
[13:46] <indus> jethro: doen?
[13:47] <asger> indus, 9, just did a clean install a few days ago
[13:47] <Sj4lut_> legend2440: pci-e ?
[13:47] <indus> jethro: clear all cookies close firefox and restart again
[13:47] <Scunizi> indus: I know about gparted.. it won't help with a grub 15 error.. I just reinstalled grub and will reboot to see if it now works.
[13:47] <indus> Scunizi: k
[13:47] <legend2440> Sj4lut_: no i have an older motherboard so still using agp
[13:47] <indus> legend2440: thanks for the cookie :)
[13:47] <asger> indus, is it the i686 u want?
[13:47] <jethro> indus i cant find the clear cookies part in 3.5
[13:48] <Kartagis> I tried to add a sound to desktop login on System > Preferences > Sound > Sounds tab, but it still defaults. why?
[13:48] <indus> jethro: omg why didnt you tell me you using 3.5??
[13:48] <legend2440> indus: lol your welcome. you looked like you could use one. you were getting swamped with questions  :)
[13:48] <indus> jethro: even though it shares the same plugin directory though
[13:48] <jethro> indus i am sorry, i didnt realize that made a difference =/
[13:49] <indus> jethro: try with ff 3.0 it will work :) flash 64
[13:49] <Evet> whts the problem with reallocated disks? for server using
[13:49] <indus> jethro: but i believe it works with all since shares plugins folder
[13:49] <indus> jethro: anyways did u clear history cookies etc? it should work now man
[13:50] <jethro> indus is there no way to make it work in 3.5 i had it working in 3.5 about a week ago before i reinstalled linux
[13:50] <indus> jethro: u mean u had it working in 3.0?
[13:50] <jethro> indus how do i clear cookies in 3.5
[13:50] <jethro> indus no in 3.5
[13:50] <indus> jethro: well, i had it working in 3.5 too
[13:50] <indus> jethro: go to hmm preferences ?
[13:51] <indus>  jethro: this you should find out yourself :) in private browsing or somethere?
[13:51] <indus> jethro: ok i want to confirm again, did u see a mozilla folder in hidden?
[13:52] <jethro> indus yes
[13:52] <indus> jethro: so you put the plugin in plugins folder?
[13:52] <jethro> indus yes
[13:52] <indus> jethro: also, did u do that sudo cp to /usr/lib ..... ?
[13:52] <indus> jethro: so now you are searching for clear history?
[13:52] <jethro> indus yes i am pretty sure. i can check in that folder
[13:53] <jethro> indus i cleared the history
[13:53] <indus> jethro: now try some another flash site, maybe daily motion
[13:54] <indus> i need some tea :|
[13:54] <indus> jethro: works?
[13:54] <jiohdi> how do you fool microsoft ORIFICE LIvE into thinking you have an xp machine?
[13:54] <jethro> indus not sure yet
[13:54] <indus> jethro: huh
[13:54] <indus> asger: you still there?
[13:55] <asger> indus, yes
[13:55] <jethro> indus daily motion doesn't play anything either
[13:55] <indus> asger: jethro : have any of you guys installed any addons
[13:55] <indus> jethro: is it a black screen you get?
[13:56] <jiohdi> MS OriFFICE will not allow a linux machine to access it, how do I fool it?
[13:56] <jethro> indus no there is just white space on daily motion and it tells me to install flash on youtube
[13:56] <indus> jethro: ok white space
[13:56] <jiohdi> and how does it know?
[13:56] <something132> hey
[13:56] <indus> jethro: search for a package nspluginwrapper in ubuntu
[13:57] <indus> jethro: synaptic i mean
[13:57] <asger> indus, for firefox? I got java console, mediaplayerconnectivity and ubuntu firefox modifications
[13:57] <jethro> indus not installed
[13:57] <something132> i need some simple info, dont think it is possible but can you play prototype on ubuntu?
[13:57] <jethro> brb i have to wake up my gf
[13:57] <indus> jethro: hmm ok i need a favour. Can you run ff 3.0 and tell me if flash works?
[13:57] <abbazabba> hi, i'm trying to create a bootable usb drive, i checked online and it said to apt-get usb-creator.. but it can't be found
[13:57] <indus> asger: how did u install flash
[13:57] <abbazabba> does anyone know the name change, if they changed the name
[13:58] <jiohdi> abba, goto system administration, usb disk creator
[13:58] <something132> its really quik plz answer?
[13:58] <asger> indus, i tryed in so many ways and so many times that i can't remember anymore
[13:58] <jethro> indus how do i get back to 3.0; with ubuntuzilla?
[13:58] <jiohdi> its called usb startup disk creator to be accurate
[13:59] <jiohdi> abba, you can also search for unet in all packages for an outside program that makes bootable usb's
[13:59] <abbazabba> jiohdi: i'm' on 8.04 and its not in the menu sadly
[13:59] <InCubaTor> any one with knowledge of ffado and jackd here?
[13:59] <jiohdi> unet will do it for you then
[13:59] <indus> jethro: ff 3.0 and ff 3.5 are both available side by side in jaunty 9.04
[14:00] <moncky> !appdb | something132
[14:00] <sjk> yo
[14:00] <jethro> indus i am running 8.10 because jaunty does not support my video card
[14:00] <something132> thanks guys
[14:00] <something132> alotta help
[14:00] <something132> later
[14:00] <moncky> something132: have a look in the link above, I doubt there is support for it yet
[14:00] <indus> jethro: hmm how did u install ff 3.5??
[14:00] <jethro> indus ubuntuzilla
[14:00] <abbazabba> jiohdi: thank you checking now.. another quick question, i just got a new rig with 500gb storage.. i'm planning on runnin ubuntu on a 50 gig partition and vista on a 100gig (for games).. what would be the best way to use the rest of that hard drive so both operating systems could add files to it?
[14:01] <indus> jethro: ok  sorry then i cant help you there, maybe it installs in diff locations
[14:01] <vikas> hello, can anyone please clarify me. If grub do not find the kernel for 1st choice then will it move to other choice to boot the kernel ?
[14:01] <jethro> indus .... i just thought of something
[14:01] <abbazabba> jiohdi: i just checked through add/remove and all that came up was gnunet
[14:01] <erUSUL> vikas: no it will fail
[14:01] <vikas> indus, hello how are you?
[14:01] <freakynl> hi, can I install 8.04 server x86_64 with raid-1 with only 1 disk? the second one just died... so it will need to be added when it gets back. i know how to do these things manually (mainly from other distro's) but I don't wanna wreck havoc with ubuntu's install/maintenance scripts etc.
[14:01] <jiohdi> abba, I dont know all the ins and outs, but ubuntu can use anything on ntfs but not sure if vista can do the same
[14:01] <indus> vikas: good thanks
[14:01] <indus> i brb 5 min please
[14:01] <indus> :)
[14:01] <janisozaur> abbazabba: you can check ext2ifs
[14:01] <jiohdi> abba, did you check all availible, not just connanical
[14:02] <InCubaTor>  any one with knowledge of ffado and jackd here?
[14:02] <abbazabba> jiohdi: yes
[14:02] <abbazabba> janisozaur: what do you mean?
[14:02] <vikas> erUSUL, thanks
[14:02] <jiohdi> odd, it does come up on mine :-?
[14:02] <DumbDude> hi
[14:02] <mehrsteckdose> Weird question: Is there a LiveCD/Distro that has kernel 2.6.30.3 by default?
[14:02] <janisozaur> abbazabba: it's installable file system for windows that can read ext2 (and so ext3 in it's backwards-compatible mode, i.e. without journal)
[14:02] <Trijntje> hi DumbDude
[14:02] <Socah> Hello. Do anyone know to how read id3 tags from console?
[14:03] <jiohdi> try UNetbootin
[14:03] <janisozaur> abbazabba: there is a quirk though, you have to manually set inode size to 128
[14:03] <abbazabba> janisozaur: how would i go abdoing that
[14:03] <jethro> what is the benefit of running 64 bit linux?
[14:03] <janisozaur> abbazabba: abdoing?
[14:03] <jiohdi> abba, being that it is UN in caps may make a difference on these machines
[14:03] <abbazabba> janisozaur: about doing
[14:03] <abbazabba> jiohdi: nah nothing came up
[14:04] <jiohdi> could 8.04 have different listings than 9?
[14:04] <janisozaur> abbazabba: http://www.fs-driver.org/
[14:04] <abbazabba> janisozaur: was lazy haha.. i will have to check that out in a minute
[14:04] <jiohdi> abba, I suppose you can google it and get it from the direct source
[14:04] <InCubaTor> i could need some help setting up my firewire audio interface
[14:04] <abbazabba> i wanted to install the newest version on the new comp, but i think i'll just install 8.04, burn a cd with 9 on it, install that
[14:04] <abbazabba> then worry about vista and everything else
[14:04] <abbazabba> bbiab guys
[14:05] <janisozaur> abbazabba: i use it for quite some time now, never experienced any drawbacks
[14:05] <desiNerd> hello guys, i need some information...a couple of days back i ordered for dell studio 15, now i want to know what version of ubuntu 9.04 is suitable for that notebook. i guess it should be something like x86_64 as that machine is 64 bit, but i'm not able to find this x86_64 ubuntu images, i got only the amd64 iso images, so what to do
[14:05] <jiohdi> abba http://sourceforge.net/projects/unetbootin/files/
[14:05] <desiNerd> currently i'm using ubuntu 9.04 32 bit on my dell inspiron 6400[old mode] office laptop and its rocking
[14:05] <janisozaur> desiNerd: that's what you want
[14:05] <janisozaur> desiNerd: the amd64
[14:06] <janisozaur> desiNerd: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86-64
[14:06] <Gnutoo> hi,how do I switch from nvidia to mesa?
[14:06] <Gnutoo> in command line
[14:06] <desiNerd> @jani... but isn't that for amd architecture...or that is meant for all 64 bit machines....? oh ..thanks..let me have a look at the wiki
[14:06] <janisozaur> !tab | desiNerd
[14:07] <jethro> what is the create folder command in terminal?
[14:07] <indus> hi
[14:07] <jiohdi> mkdir
[14:07] <janisozaur> jethro: mkdir
[14:07] <Xerran> Can someone tell me how to  re-enable visual effects?
[14:07] <indus> mkdir :)
[14:07] <desiNerd> thanks@ janisozaur , ubottu
[14:07] <jethro> how do i safely delete a file in terminal?
[14:08] <indus> asger: so tell me,which version of ubuntu,which version of firefox
[14:08] <janisozaur> jethro: "safely"?
[14:08] <freakynl> jethro: shred?
[14:08] <janisozaur> ahh
[14:08] <Gnutoo> so no one knows anymore how to install manually the nvidia drivers?
[14:08] <jethro> janisozaur i dont to accidentally delete everything in the folder
[14:08] <desiNerd> thanks @ janisozaur ...that wiki is really helpful...got my concepts cleared about 64 bit machines...nice one..thanks a lot
[14:08] <indus> jethro: use gui
[14:08] <jrib> jethro: use rm -i
[14:08] <deany> !java
[14:08] <indus> jethro: what are you trying to delete?
[14:08] <jethro> indus how do i get gui as sudo?
[14:08] <Beyecixramd> AFK.
[14:09] <marenz__> my init.d/dbus file is empty. I tried to do aptitude reinstall dbus, but that didnt help. Any ideas?
[14:09] <freakynl> jethro: sudo nautilus
[14:09] <indus> jethro: aah oops type gksu nautilus
[14:09] <jethro> indus i accidentally made the flash plugin called "plugins" isntead of putting it into the plugin folder
[14:09] <indus> jethro: what??
[14:09] <indus> jethro: say again?
[14:10] <coz_> whatchoo talkin about jethro
[14:10] <Xerran> jethro, are you trying to install 64-bit FLASH?
[14:10] <jethro> indus complicated. when i moved the flash plugin to a folder i forgot to add  the / and it renamed the file
[14:10] <jethro> xerran yes\
[14:10] <marenz__> anyone?
[14:10] <marenz__> :(
[14:10] <indus> jethro: yikes
[14:10] <indus> jethro: forgot to add the / where?
[14:10] <moshe_> hello, after installing ubuntu 64bit on my hp pavilion laptop i cant play sound. could someone help me fix it?
[14:11] <janisozaur> marenz__: use apt-file?
[14:11] <jethro> indus at the end of /usr/lib/firefox/plugins
[14:11] <indus> jethro: no need to add /
[14:11] <InCubaTor> any one who can help uot with ffado and jackd here?
[14:11] <KEBA> hi there. ive a new hdd and want to create partitions with gparted. now i should chose a paritionstablems: dos, aix, amiga, vsd, dvh, gpt, mac, pc98, sun or loop - default is mdsods. what should i chose?
[14:11] <marenz__> janisozaur, according to packages.ubuntu.com the dbus package installs this file
[14:11] <indus> jethro: it will go in plugins folder anyway
[14:11] <janisozaur> marenz__: then dpkg -x
[14:11] <jethro> indus it renamed the file to plugins
[14:12] <indus> jethro: hmm no way
[14:12] <janisozaur> KEBA: what is the purpose of partiton? do you use windows?
[14:12] <jethro> indus i am not sure how i did it but thats what happened.
[14:12] <janisozaur> KEBA: oh, you mean mbr
[14:12] <janisozaur> KEBA: stick with dos
[14:12] <indus> jethro: when ? when using the sudo cp command?
[14:13] <KEBA> janisozaur: there is no "dos", so i should chose msdos?
[14:13] <jethro> yes i typed sudo cp libfla.... /usr/lib/firefox/plugin
[14:13] <indus> jethro: ok gksu nautilus > then go to filesystem>usr/lib/firefox plugins
[14:13] <janisozaur> KEBA: you say there is "dos". if there's msdos, then use it
[14:13] <InCubaTor> anyone? i got ffado and jackd trouble
[14:13] <KEBA> janisozaur: ah, sorry, my fault.. kay
[14:14] <Xerran> how to re-enable visual effects? When I try it says "Desktop effects could not be enabled".
[14:14] <jethro> indus i am there
[14:14] <coz_> Xerran,  which video card?
[14:14] <indus> jethro:what folders do u see
[14:14] <jethro> indus i fixed it earlier. it has /plugins/ with libflashplayer.so inside
[14:14] <moshe_> hello, after installing ubuntu 64bit on my hp pavilion laptop i cant play sound. could someone help me fix it?
[14:14] <Xerran> coz_: Radeon 4850 X2, running the latest Catalyst 9.7 drivers
[14:14] <indus> jethro: ok good
[14:15] <indus> jethro: so try play some flash site?
[14:15] <coz_> Xerran,  mm ok and did you install the drivers for that?
[14:15] <Scunizi> Grub Help please. (I've seen the link).. Grub error 15 .. so I reinstalled grub, no joy.. then I booted to the live cd and checked out /boot/grub/menu.lst .. looks normal for a dual boot machine and uuid's for the partitioins match blkid.  How do I get grub to recognize or boot the linux install?
[14:15] <jethro> indus "no flash player installed"
[14:15] <coz_> Xerran,  ok  several things
[14:15] <indus> jethro: ya ok maybe ubuntuzilla has another folder or something,can u search in home folder hidden dir named ubuntu zilla
[14:16] <sixdraw> I've got a problem. I wanted to set up two monitors to run from the one graphics card. As they both have vga cables I got a DVI to VGA adapter for my DVI port. My other monitor is using the vga port. Is there some setting I need to change?
[14:16] <Xerran> coz_: Yes they have been running great. I just turned off Visual effects and now can not turn them back on
[14:16] <jethro> indus i have to go to school, i will work on this later. thank you for your help!
[14:16] <indus> jethro: for now,close this nautilus
[14:16] <coz_> Xerran,   I would go to #compiz  and talk with adamk  about this since it is an ati card  and second    Compiz requires at least a Radeon 7000 (or M6). From the 7000 to the X1950, you can use the open source "radeon" driver. All cards newer than the X1950 must use the proprietary "fglrx" driver.
[14:16] <pepperjack> !sound | moshe_
[14:16] <indus> jethro: ok cu bye then
[14:16] <jethro> bai
[14:16] <coz_> Xerran,  mmm
[14:16] <indus> asger: did u get help?
[14:16] <Xerran> coz_: Even though I am not runnign CompizFusion?
[14:17] <marenz__> janisozaur, your simple yet effective way worked like a charm.
[14:17] <moshe_> pepperjack, it is selected.
[14:17] <coz_> Xerran,   well   you said you turned off desktop effects   are you running kde?
[14:17] <Xerran> coz_: *running
[14:17] <wick2o> hello, I'm tring to help someone upgrade a 6.10 box to 8.04.2...the upgrade from 6.10 to 7.04 worked perfectly, however upon reboot both nics stopped working.  I've done a lshw -C network and can SEE both nics... I've tried to modproble them, assign them a static ip address and still have had no luck... any suggestions?
[14:17] <Xerran> coz_: Gnome
[14:17] <sixdraw> I forgot to mention that the monitor using the DVI to VGA adapter isnt showing anything
[14:17] <coz_> Xerran, ok then desktop effects on gnome  are compiz
[14:17] <sixdraw> any ideas
[14:17] <sixdraw> ?
[14:17] <Xerran> coz_: ok
[14:18] <coz_> Xerran,   so check with adamk in  #compiz   I am nvidia guy   and adamk and sorseau  are ati
[14:18] <pepperjack> moshe_: check your volume levels and mute settings for instance open a terminal and type 'alsamixer'
[14:18] <Xerran> coz_: Thank you very much, much appreciated
[14:19] <unni84kollam1> how to use video chat in pidgin
[14:19] <coz_> Xerran,   I will meet you in #compiz    I believe adamk is already logged on
[14:19] <unni84kollam1> pls help
[14:19] <Xerran> ok
[14:19] <moshe_> pepperjack, nothing is muted, and they are all on a ok level of volume
[14:19] <mataks> how to have smooth scrolling on browser? is this on my video card? seems like a little laggy..
[14:19] <indus> unni84kollam you cannot there is no feature
[14:19] <moshe_> pepperjack, also mudles loaded seem fine.
[14:20] <indus> unni84kollam1  you cannot there is no feature
[14:20] <sanskumar_> k
[14:20] <unni84kollam1> helloindus what bout empathy
[14:21] <unni84kollam1> indus i installed empathy
[14:21] <unni84kollam1> but cant use voice chat in empathy
[14:21] <pozic> How do I enable sleep mode on my laptop? When I stop the machine and put it in sleep mode it does the same as when it is shutdown. I know the laptop can support it and another version of Ubuntu did support it.
[14:21] <indus> unni84kollam1: i hear it supports google talk but i dont know,anyways you need to install the telepathy framework for tht
[14:21] <moshe_> how do i restart x-server
[14:21] <unni84kollam1> ok
[14:22] <ubuntumania> hello
[14:22] <indus> unni84kollam1: also available in synaptic
[14:22] <pepperjack> moshe_: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[14:22] <witecrow> hi all
[14:22] <indus> hi
[14:22] <pepperjack> moshe_: one way. you can add alt-ctrlbackspace back in xorg.conf if you miss it :)
[14:22] <ubuntumania> how do i get mutt to send email?
[14:22] <unni84kollam1> can u pls send the terminal commandline to install telepathy in empathy
[14:22] <indus> unni84kollam1: u dont have gui?
[14:22] <unni84kollam1> yes
[14:22] <unni84kollam1> i  have
[14:23] <indus> sudo apt-get install telepathy-core
[14:23] <unni84kollam1> ok
[14:23] <pepperjack> unni84kollam1: apt-cache search whatever    to find the package name you want from command line
[14:23] <indus> pepperjack: unni84kollam1:thanks for that .
[14:23] <indus> pepperjack: ty
[14:24] <meteor``> Anyone knows a good clone for Vypress?
[14:25] <erUSUL> ubuntumania: configure it ? i think mutt has the capabily to send and fetch mails for itself now... the other option is use the fetchmail + mta (a simple one like ssmtp for example)
[14:25] <yabuk> hallo. I've some problems when recording sounds of my mic in many programs (anki, audacity,  sound recorder... ). I can hear my I talking on mic when recording, but they don't record it. how to fix that?
[14:25] <witecrow> i need a e-book  all the commands I Ubuntu training Notify
[14:25] <erUSUL> ubuntumania: there shoulbe plaenty of how tos over the web
[14:25] <Halabund> I have a dual boot system, Ubuntu and Windows.  Is it possible to make Windows the default choice in the boot menu in such a way that the menu.lst file does not need to be edited when there is a kernel upgrade?
[14:25] <jrib> Halabund: put the windows option at the top before the debian automagic kernel list
[14:26] <witecrow>  i need a e-book  all the commands I Ubuntu training Notify
[14:26] <Halabund> jrib: THanks, I'll try that
[14:26] <ubuntumania> how do i get support for mailing to remote domains in Mutt?
[14:26] <Trijntje> witecrow: what country are you from?
[14:27] <witecrow> Trijntje PLz dont ask
[14:28] <witecrow> Trijntje: Please dont ask
[14:28] <Trijntje> witecrow: i dont think anybody here understands your question, so maybe you should try the ubuntu channel in your local language
[14:28] <witecrow> ops
[14:28] <witecrow> i can't speak en very will
[14:29] <Beyecixramd> back
[14:29] <witecrow> but i need help
[14:29] <veggteppe> Anyone that can help me get "Cinelerra" Working? Tried googling up, but can't get it working =(
[14:29] <ubuntumania> can i get support here for Mutt?
[14:30] <freakynl> witecrow: mind telling what language you do speak then?
[14:30] <erUSUL> ubuntumania: you use gmail ?
[14:31] <EricInBNE> I get VFS: Server not responding when I shutdown/reboot my ubuntu box. Looks like the network is being taken down before the FS is unmounted.
[14:31] <EricInBNE> how do I fix
[14:31] <sonism> witecrow: so you better go to ubuntu forum that speak your language... so let someone direct you how to get there...
[14:31] <stoormy> im trying to install vyqchat from a tar.gz file. I have extracted it and did ./configure from the terminal.
[14:31] <Scunizi> I'm looking for a Grub 15 error solution.. any takers?
[14:31] <stoormy> what next
[14:31] <witecrow> freakynl: :-/
[14:32] <freakynl> witecrow: try #ubuntu-ir
[14:32] <witecrow> freakynl:-D
[14:33] <ubuntumania> yeah
[14:33] <ubuntumania> i use gmail
[14:33] <ubuntumania> and i want to learn/swap with Mutt
[14:35] <Roland> how to make rhythmbox skip specific file types while scanning the music library?
[14:36] <pozic> Roland: probably impossible, unless you hack the source or change the file system
[14:36] <freakynl> can anyone recommend a good e-book on cli commands (preferably ubuntu targetted) to witecrow ?
[14:36] <indus> Roland: not possible in preferences at least
[14:36] <jrib> !cli > witecrow
[14:37] <janisozaur> marenz__: you're welcome
[14:38] <B1ST> hello, is there a tool for finding the fastes apt mirror?
[14:38] <erUSUL> ubuntumania: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=mutt+%2B+gmail
[14:38] <B1ST> my downloads are little bit slow
[14:38] <freakynl> !cli > freakynl
[14:39] <indus> BIST it checks automatically
[14:39] <B1ST> awz
[14:39] <indus> BIST or just go to software sources and check for best server
[14:40] <B1ST> software sources?
[14:40] <pepperjack> indus: synaptic does this and updates sources.list?
[14:40] <indus> BIST system>administration>software sources
[14:41] <pepperjack> nm
[14:41] <bobbob1016> I'm running beagle, and when I open the settings it says "Attempted to watch /home/bob/.beagle/config failed no space on disk" but I have plenty of space.  Any ideas?
[14:41] <B1ST> ok
[14:41] <indus> pepperjack: yep
[14:42] <indus> pepperjack: in my office we use a custom repo , internal server which then updates all systems
[14:42] <pepperjack> bobbob1016: maybe check to see if root owns anything with like a ls -laR /home/bob | grep root
[14:42] <indus> pepperjack: so you can say, we have a mirror of our own which mirrors main server
[14:42] <indus> pepperjack: and believe me its the fastest :)
[14:43] <pepperjack> ah cool.  too many fancy tools anymore
[14:43] <indus> pepperjack: its a software called apt-cacher
[14:43] <indus> pepperjack: that will let you add custom server
[14:44] <bobbob1016> pepperjack: Root does own some things, but nothing I see in .beagle, is a "cd /home/bob" then "sudo chmod 700 bob -R" (not sure on the exact order for syntax) in order?
[14:45] <pepperjack> bobbob1016: sounds like a plan.  youre sure you have space?:  df -h
[14:46] <pepperjack> bobbob1016: you could also just mv .beagle to .beagle-bak and restart it
[14:47] <bobbob1016> pepperjack: I have 240gig free.  I thought about moving .beagle, but I just finished indexing.  Running kubuntu so I'm considering using it's built-in indexer, but I hear it's pretty resource hungry.
[14:47] <bobbob1016> pepperjack: chmod 700 means I can read/write and no one else can see it, right?
[14:48] <indus> read write and execute
[14:48] <indus> 4+2+1
[14:48] <indus> ls -l will tell u
[14:50] <indus> i guess this channel is quiet now
[14:53] <im> hello people
[14:53] <auntieNeo> did anyone else get messaged by Melissa23?
[14:54] <indus> who is that
[14:54] <auntieNeo> wow, it's real quiet for such a huge channel, isn't it ;P
[14:54] <auntieNeo> indus: I think it's an advertising bot... she messaged me a random url, how annoying :(
[14:54] <indus> sure is,seems like some outage
[14:56] <archman> hello
[14:56] <indus> hi
[14:57] <archman> is there a way to remove ubuntu 64bit which is on a dual boot machine with vista, without f**king up vista?
[14:57] <archman> GRUB controls the boot, btw
[14:57] <indus> archman: if its on a separate partition yes,or else no
[14:57] <cyberninja> hi guys im tryin to setup a DNS server with bind9
[14:57] <cyberninja> im a n00b at DNS btw, i just wanna know how does the internet know my website on my DNS server do i have to link my DNS server to a working one
[14:57] <bazhang> archman, please no cursing
[14:58] <archman> sorry
[14:58] <natewiebe13> archman: use the vista install disk and do a repair
[14:58] <MerlinW> archman, boot from vista dvd, recovery mode, and use fixboot and fixmbr commands
[14:58] <MerlinW> yeah, repair mode
[14:59] <natewiebe13> archman: ive done this before.. do a repair and it will just fix the bootloader...  dont even have to put in commands
[14:59] <archman> thanks guys! i'm asking this for a friend, btw, so i'll see with him
[14:59] <archman> thanks for the suggestion
[14:59] <MerlinW> np
[15:00] <root_> hi all
[15:01] <k4dm3l> hello!
[15:01] <k4dm3l> how are you people!
[15:01] <natewiebe13> archman: http://helpdeskgeek.com/how-to/fix-mbr-xp-vista/
[15:01] <k4dm3l> any of you have get running zsnes on jaunty???
[15:01] <archman> thanks, natewiebe13
[15:01] <nichlas> does anyone know a good guide for setting up home vpn and gateway?
[15:02] <asger> anyone got time to help me with flash. I just can't seem to get it to work
[15:03] <Blizzerand> asger : me volunteera
[15:03] <JenniferB> i need to install an smtp server .. any recommendations?
[15:03] <erUSUL> !postfix | JenniferB
[15:03] <JenniferB> hehe :) thanks
[15:03] <erUSUL> JenniferB: no problem
[15:03] <mphill> nichlas: openvpn is pretty straight forward, they have good documentation
[15:03] <asger> Blizzerand, okay, thx. Well i've installed it in many ways, and i'm not even sure which install there is now. Maybe it would be vice to clean it up a bit
[15:04] <k4dm3l> checking for OpenGL... no
[15:04] <k4dm3l> any of you?
[15:04] <k4dm3l> checking for OpenGL... no jaunty error
[15:04] <nichlas> mphill: i tried that, but the windows client isn't as straight-forward i think
[15:04] <k4dm3l> i did install all opengl
[15:04] <Blizzerand> asger : have you tried Adobe Flash plugin ( If thats what you are talking about)
[15:04] <tonii> hm, I need a tip for a GOOD lightweight music player for linux, anyone care to suggest some good app? :)
[15:04] <Blizzerand> !adobe flash
[15:04] <asger> yeah, i've tryed that
[15:04] <pbn> hello... since there is a security issue (DSA-1844-1), when will new 2.6.24 binary kernels be available for 8.04 LTS ?
[15:04] <erUSUL> k4dm3l: which graphic card ?
[15:04] <Blizzerand> !flash
[15:05] <nichlas> mphill: was actually looking at pptp, but that seemed to not work for me either.
[15:05] <k4dm3l> intel
[15:05] <tuxxie> can some one give me a link for installing google chrome
[15:05] <archman> guys, also, can he edit the grub so that vista is a first option and change the time to less than 10s so he doesn't ahve to choose it every time?
[15:05] <Blizzerand> asger : What is that troubling you
[15:05] <archman> btw, ubuntu-vista dualboot^
[15:05] <k4dm3l> erUSUL: Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/PM/GMS/910GML
[15:06] <thiebaude> archman, yes
[15:06] <VCoolio> tonii: use sonata, is a frontend for mpd
[15:06] <pepperjack> asger: as a quick fix you could just download firefox and extract the firefox folder from the archive you download and drop flash plugin in that firefox/plugins folder and run firefox from that new dir
[15:06] <k4dm3l> tuxxie: chrome.google.com
[15:06] <asger> Blizzerand, that i can't view flash content on web pages.
[15:06] <tonii> VCoolio: Thanks, I'll check that out :)
[15:06] <JenniferB> erUSUL: I am only interested in sending emails.. should I select interent with smarthost ?
[15:06] <archman> thiebaude, any tips? :)
[15:06] <thiebaude> archman, gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[15:07] <k4dm3l> JenniferB you could install Qmail-toaster is pretty easy
[15:07] <asger> pepperjack, hm. i'm quite new to ubuntu, so i', not sure i could do as u suggested on my own. I'd need help
[15:07] <archman> thiebaude? LOL?
[15:07] <erUSUL> JenniferB: yes afaik
[15:07] <thiebaude> archman, and you'll see the timeout, i think default is 15 sec
[15:07] <archman> thiebaude, that's for packages :D
[15:07] <archman> not grub
[15:07] <thiebaude> oh my bad
[15:08] <tuxxie> k4dm3l, i only see it for windows instiller.
[15:08] <Blizzerand> asger : But can you view videos
[15:08] <thiebaude> archman, gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.list
[15:08] <asger> Blizzerand, i can view some. It works on youtube for instancen, but not on other pages
[15:08] <thiebaude> archman, i cant believe i did that
[15:09] <archman> thiebaude, thanks
[15:09] <thiebaude> archman, np
[15:09] <k4dm3l> tuxxie: http://www.google.com/chrome/intl/en/linux.html
[15:09] <VCoolio> thiebaude: archman menu.lst, not menu.list (confusing)
[15:09] <Blizzerand> asger : Try gnash . Its an open source plugin .( It works for me) Terminal --> sudo apt-get install gnash
[15:10] <archman> VCoolio, nice! thanks :)
[15:10] <thiebaude> VCoolio, thanks alot.i think im going to wake up first,lol
[15:10] <JenniferB> what should be the smpt.gmail.com for my own server ? smtp.localhost ?? :S
[15:10] <VCoolio> thierry: have some coffee ;)
[15:11] <asger> Blizzerand, terminal tells me i've already got the newest gnasg
[15:11] <asger> Blizzerand, gnash
[15:11] <bgamari> Which package contains firefox's pkgconfig files?
[15:11] <Blizzerand> asger : lol give me a second
[15:11] <thierry> VCoolio : nah I don't like cofee :P
[15:11] <asger> Blizzerand, hehe, sure
[15:11] <RussianMafia> is here a channel for eggdrop support?
[15:11] <RussianMafia> sry for my dumb question
[15:12] <VCoolio> thierry: sorry, I wanted to autocomplete a guy who apparently just left
[15:12] <thierry> VCoolio : :P alright no problem
[15:12] <Blizzerand> asger : May be thats the problem > You may be running both gnash and Adobe; causing all the trouble
[15:13] <archman> VCoolio, thiebaude, can you also explain me how to edit it so, in example, the second option will be the first one on the GRUB screen?
[15:13] <yabuk> hey, in volume controll--> recording I remove the "x" from mic and close, but when I go there again the "x" is there yet! I think that I can't record sound because that, does anyone know what happen hare?
[15:13] <asger> Blizzerand, okay. and i think i've installed some nonfree flash thing as well..
[15:14] <asger> Blizzerand, where can i see which kinds of flash i have, and how do i remove them?
[15:14]  * Blizzerand thinks
[15:15] <VCoolio> archman: tricky, I don't dare to say to copypaste the windows section to the top. Use startup-manager instead
[15:15] <VCoolio> archman: install startup-manager, then run startupmanager
[15:16] <archman> VCoolio, that's the GRUB editing tool?
[15:16] <Blizzerand> asger : Try about:plugins in the firefox window
[15:16] <VCoolio> archman: it's a startupmanager and also configures grub options, yes
[15:17] <archman> cool!
[15:17] <Blizzerand> !pastebin : asger
[15:17] <init> hi
[15:17] <Blizzerand> !pastebin
[15:18] <asger> Blizzerand, the command in firefox worked. but what is !pastebin?
[15:18]  * Blizzerand points asger to the message above ^
[15:19] <Blizzerand> asger : Never mind . Do you see something by the name gnash
[15:19] <asger> Blizzerand, yes. i got the headlines called shockwave flash
[15:20] <asger> Blizzerand, under one of them there is a file with gnash in it
[15:20] <geent1> What do you know about Karmic some info more about it
[15:21] <durt> !karmic | geent1
[15:21] <asger> Blizzerand, http://paste.ubuntu.com/235984/   is that how pastebind works?
[15:21] <init-zero> can someone help me? Im new in ubuntu and I accidently deleted the bar, where you can switch between the windows. How can I get it back?
[15:21] <VCoolio> init-zero: you still have the top bar?
[15:21] <aaronvarghese> i cant use my head phones
[15:21] <slayton> init-zero, right click on the top bar and select add new panel
[15:22] <geent1> ubottu, Aha thanks okey I knew about this but I'd like to know will it be diffrent in template or will be better in working I think it will be faster than others os of ubunut?
[15:22] <Blizzerand> asger ; try uninstalling gnash from the terminal sudo apt-get remove gnash
[15:22] <slayton> init-zero, then add the "Window Selector" applet to the new bar
[15:22] <asger> Blizzerand, done
[15:23] <init-zero> ok thank you
[15:23] <aaronvarghese> i cant use my headphones. the sounds only comes from the speaker im using jaunty and the input works fine
[15:23] <dmazzone> does anyone know why on 9.04 32bit the group file suddenly be lost?
[15:23] <Blizzerand> asger : Can you view videos now
[15:23] <sfstikkun> I keep getting an icon to cue a download of files which are useless for my distro.  I tried getting rid all orphan files using  Janitor and still this icon keeps appearing.  How do I get rid of whatever is attracting the unwanted cues?
[15:24] <asger> Blizzerand, no
[15:24] <tonii> VCoolio: do I need mdp to use sonata?
[15:25] <VCoolio> tonii: yes
[15:25] <aaronvarghese>  i cant use my headphones. the sounds only comes from the speaker im using jaunty and the input works fine
[15:25] <tonii> VCoolio: no wonders it don't work then :D
[15:25] <Blizzerand> asger :sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[15:25] <VCoolio> tonii: it's a system daemon that is controlled in commandline or via frontends like sonate
[15:25] <tonii> VCoolio: alright :)
[15:25] <asger> Blizzerand, i think i've got that installed already, but i'll try
[15:26] <InCubaTor> anyone who knows jackd here? take a look at this http://www.pastie.org/563610
[15:26] <InCubaTor> i need some help
[15:26] <gc_> i can't use my headphone,too
[15:27] <asger> Blizzerand, yeah, i got the newest already
[15:29] <VCoolio> tonii: after installing copy the config file: "cp /etc/mpd.conf ~/.mpdconf" and add the folder(s) to your music in there
[15:30] <tonii> VCoolio: alright, thanks :)
[15:30] <Blizzerand> asger : Sorry for your time but I think you'd be better off with ubuntu forums or just wait till some  experience person appears
[15:30] <bening> love ubuntu
[15:31] <asger> Blizzerand, okay. well thanks for your help so far. have a nice day
[15:31] <madsj> isn't it possible to get aptitude to suppress output entirely ?
[15:31] <spO> any of you know how to setup something similar to remote desktop connection for ubuntu... i would like a gui so i can configure or control the downloading of torrent files, and i basically need to view that.... unless you suggest that there is a good web interface for torrent downloading
[15:32] <mataks> how to have like kde icons on panel? that' is customize icons on panel
[15:32] <Hatsjoe> I remember such a thing sp0
[15:32] <erUSUL> !vnc | spO
[15:32] <Hatsjoe> a torrent client with web interface to load new torrents on and see the progress of torrents and such
[15:32] <aaronvarghese_> hi
[15:32] <aaronvarghese_>  i cant use my headphones. the sounds only comes from the speaker im using jaunty and the input works fine
[15:32] <metallica> Hi
[15:32] <Blizzerand> asger : Might be a bug though .(or you have any other plugin installed which blocks the other) I will look out for any ubuntu forums posts on the topic . Cheers
[15:32] <erUSUL> Hatsjoe: spO deluge has web interface afaik
[15:33] <Dream-Stalker> does ubuntu now support usb mobile broad band dongles?
[15:33] <asger> Blizzerand, would it might be an idea to reinstall ff?'
[15:33] <metallica> Is there any guy who could tell me where can I find a Windows XP crack ?
[15:33] <Titan8990> Dream-Stalker, the question is does usb modile broadband dongles support linux
[15:33] <sipior> aaronvarghese_: does your mixer software have a headphone volume slider or switch?
[15:33] <Dream-Stalker> same thing titan :)
[15:33] <Titan8990> metallica, #windows
[15:33] <metallica> thanks
[15:33] <Titan8990> metallica, or maybe #douchebag
[15:34] <Dream-Stalker> are usb mobile broadbands supported on linux?
[15:34] <erUSUL> Hatsjoe: spO not the case it has a daemon an a gui that can be in different machines
[15:34] <sipior> lol@Titan8990
[15:34] <Blizzerand> asger : *No* . Just ask in the forums and just wait for a few minutes and there you will be with good responses
[15:34] <fortunev> Hi all. I just did an upgrade that required a restart. After the restart I get a grub error ...invalad executable Press any Key to continue. And then a list of kernels to load. 2.6.28-14 gives the errors. 2.6.28-13 still works. Any ideas on how to fix this?
[15:34] <djXternal> On my Ubuntu 9.04 Desktop machine I have lost my Auto eth0 Wired Connection and can't get it back.  I shut down the system last night before a power outage and when I started it up this morning I could not access the internet, but the network doesnt seem to be a problem.
[15:35] <mihil> br
[15:35] <mihil> bry*
[15:35] <aaronvarghese_>  i cant use my headphones. the sounds only comes from the speaker im using jaunty and the input works fine
[15:36] <aaronvarghese_> ok
[15:36] <tonii> VCoolio: hm, is python-mdp the correct app?
[15:36] <RandomTime> aaronvarghese_: are they USB headphones, or traditional standard jack headphones
[15:36] <aaronvarghese_> sipoir
[15:36] <aaronvarghese_> jack
[15:36] <VCoolio> tonii: mpd not mdp
[15:36] <aaronvarghese_> random
[15:36] <RandomTime> yeah?
[15:36] <VCoolio> tonii: media player daemon
[15:37] <tonii> VCoolio: lol, guess I should read better >.<
[15:37] <aaronvarghese_> sopoir
[15:37] <aaronvarghese_> sip
[15:37] <sipior> aaronvarghese_: sipior, actually
[15:37] <aaronvarghese_> ok
[15:38] <aaronvarghese_> how do i get my headphones working
[15:38] <sipior> aaronvarghese_: well, have you checked the mixer for a headphone switch?
[15:38] <aaronvarghese_> ya
[15:38] <aaronvarghese_> there is one
[15:38] <ctmjr> Dream-Stalker: have an ati sierra wireless usb dongle on 8.10 plugged it in and it just worked, had the phone number and everything knew the default user name and password was a nice surprise
[15:38] <dmazzone> anyone know why the group file on ubuntu 9.04 would revert to just three groups?
[15:38] <aaronvarghese_> and its checked
[15:39] <k4dm3l> yeah
[15:39] <Blizzerand> asger : Its huge but may be helpful . http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397
[15:39] <sipior> aaronvarghese_: and you've verified that one of "front" "side" or "rear" volumes is turned up
[15:39] <aaronvarghese_> huh
[15:39] <asger> Blizzerand, thx. I'll have a look at it
[15:39] <aaronvarghese_> no its just a check mark
[15:39] <aaronvarghese_> on the switches tab
[15:39] <sipior> aaronvarghese_: yes, but the mixer itself should have a slider for one of those three.
[15:40] <aaronvarghese_> ok
[15:40] <aaronvarghese_> lemy check
[15:40] <k4dm3l> JenniferB: on ubuntu the package is qmt
[15:40] <aaronvarghese_> no
[15:40] <aaronvarghese_> there are none
[15:41] <sipior> aaronvarghese_: you may have to enable them; have a look at the preferences dialogue, there should be a number of sliders that you can enable.
[15:41] <aaronvarghese_> there r many
[15:42] <aaronvarghese_> i have headphones checked in the switches tab
[15:42] <outy> make sure its all plugged into the right coloured jacks
[15:44] <doug_> moin
[15:44] <nigell> hello ubuntu users
[15:44] <nigell> anyone work for ubuntu here?
[15:45] <nigell> or canonical
[15:45] <nigell> ifso please say
[15:45] <nigell> i have valuable info
[15:46] <nigell> and it will be only offered once
[15:46] <NqqmNet> if i change kernel, do the permessions change auto ?
[15:46] <erUSUL> nigell: this irc channel is not the best way to contact them
[15:46] <th0r> such a deal I have for you
[15:46] <nigell> oh ok whats the best way to contact them and get a faster reply?
[15:47] <sipior> nigell: contact information on the website, surely?
[15:47] <nigell> yeah
[15:47] <nigell> i cant be bothered
[15:47] <nigell> i just thought id
[15:47] <nigell> see if anyone worked for ubuntu here
[15:47] <sipior> nigell: not too important, then.
[15:47] <nigell> and make them an offer
[15:48] <nigell> it is important
[15:48] <nigell> some improvements that will make it better
[15:48] <nigell> lots better
[15:48] <nigell> like 10 times better at least
[15:48] <nigell> minimum
[15:48] <sipior> nigell: uh huh.
[15:48] <lstarnes> nigell: some improvements for ubuntu itself?
[15:48] <nigell> yeah
[15:48] <nigell> extra programs that i have made
[15:48] <nigell> and lots more security improvements
[15:49] <VCoolio> nigell: good, ubuntu is pretty low on security, lol
[15:49] <nigell> yeah i wonder why that is
[15:49] <lstarnes> nigell: are those programs licensed under the GPL or another free/open-source license?
[15:49] <nigell> anyone?
[15:49] <nigell> just like to the level where it very competitive with windows xp
[15:49] <nigell> so ppl move to ubuntu instead of windows 7
[15:49] <nigell> and vista
[15:49] <lstarnes> nigell: you can file a bug report in launchpad for security issues with packages
[15:49] <nigell> ok thanks
[15:50] <NqqmNet> if i change kernel, does the permessions change auto ?
[15:50] <Sarge_TJ> Hi! Which package should I install to get GL/glut.h?
[15:50] <nigell> the license is undecided for now
[15:50] <lstarnes> NqqmNet: what permissions?
[15:50] <DJones> !packaging | nigell This should help you get programs you've developed to be packaged for ubuntu
[15:50] <nigell> i will have to talk to the people at ubuntu
[15:50] <erUSUL> !ot
[15:50] <nigell> ok awsum
[15:50] <nigell> on the list is a gui for apparmor
[15:50] <Taft> Hi. I'm having SERIOUS problems with my package manager and updater. I recently attempted to install 'sun-java6-plugin' from a list of recomended packages by firefox. It failed to install, and ever since i CANNOT access my package manager or ANYTHING. this is really scary...
[15:50] <Taft> anyone want to help me?
[15:50] <nigell> plus heaps more
[15:51] <nigell> its all ready to go
[15:51] <nigell> and it works nicely
[15:51] <nigell> i am a uni student
[15:51] <firecrotch> !aptfix
[15:51] <tonii> VCoolio: thanks for the thip about Sonata. I like it
[15:51] <Myrtti> nigell: can you take this discussion to the channels you've been pointed to, this channel is mainly for *support* issues
[15:51] <VCoolio> tonii: good :) have a look at plugins too
[15:51] <nigell> yes sorry thanks for your help
[15:51] <schmrz> Hello Everyone. How can I find out the link of a certain package. For example the package libpurple-bin?
[15:51] <nigell> and i will
[15:51] <nigell> thanks
[15:52] <firecrotch> schmrz: You can search for it on packages.ubuntu.com
[15:52] <Sarge_TJ> Hi! Which package should I install to get GL/glut.h? I have freeglut3 already installed, but when I'm trying to compile it says it can't find GL/glut.h...
[15:52] <tonii> VCoolio: will do :)
[15:52] <schmrz> firecrotch: I need to find it using the shell.
[15:53] <VCoolio> schmrz: run "aptitude show packagename" for info
[15:53] <nigell> does anyone know if one can get a job with ubuntu?
[15:53] <nigell> or if the people who contribute get money from the donations?
[15:53] <badabadum> hola
[15:54] <spO> I want something similar to remote desktop connection, buti don't want vnc because with vnc you have to login to an account on the local server and it takes over that session rather than making another session, hence, your local session gets taken over so you basically have only one gui session... so you cnanot watch movies and control your vnc session really
[15:54] <[Vendetta]> hi
[15:54] <erUSUL> Sarge_TJ: try the *-dev versions of the packages  (mesa glut etc)
[15:54] <sipior> Sarge_TJ: try libglut3-dev
[15:54] <lukas__> hey hi hallo
[15:54] <ikonia> nigell: this isn't a support question
[15:54] <schmrz> VCoolio: thx, but there is no link info there
[15:54] <Pici> nigell: Feel free to discuss in #ubuntu-offtopic though
[15:54] <ikonia> nigell: try to keep this channel with support questions only please.
[15:54] <th0r> spO: look into x forwarding via ssh
[15:54] <nigell> ok thanks
[15:54] <fnord2> Well, I certainly can use support. :P
[15:55] <papapep> schmrz: what do you need the link for?
[15:55] <fnord2> I'm having this problem with my soundcard and I was wondering if there is anyone who can help me.
[15:55] <[Vendetta]> otia! si hay gente española aqui O_o
[15:55] <freakynl> hi, i installed 64b 8.04 server. having some issues with php file uploads, set the values for post and filesize max in php.ini to 4096M or something. but then i can't upload files, not even 500k. so tried setting them to 2040M as I read somewhere with 32bit versions that anything above 2047M will overflow the integer, but 64bit integers should be much larger. does the 8.04 64b server have a 32b php?
[15:55] <badabadum> kien???
[15:55] <DJones> http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate
[15:55] <th0r> !es
[15:55] <papapep> !es| badabadum [Vendetta]
[15:55] <Sarge_TJ> Thanks guys! I'm gonna try that now.
[15:56] <dmazzone> hey folks, anyone know why i would lose my groups file. i restored it form groups.bak but all my policykit permissions are messed up.
[15:56] <schmrz> papapep: Some people have no internet connection and they need to transfer packages using their usb sticks. So it would be great to write a script which would list all links of all the packages that are required for installing some package.
[15:56] <Pici> schmrz: See http://apt.alturl.com/
[15:57] <fnord2> Is there anyone who can help me configuring me sound? My soundcard was default in my laptop, and it is recognized by ALSA but it won't produce sound.
[15:57] <fnord2> I know this problem is common and I followed the sound troubleshooting which didn't work.
[15:57] <fnord2> Also OSS didn't do the trick.
[15:57] <papapep> schmrz: also you can browse the web with a text based browser, but that would be a dependency nightmare...
[15:57] <[Vendetta]> bye! thank!
[15:58] <papapep> schmrz: to browse the packages.ubuntu.com site, I meant
[15:58] <th0r> fnord2: do you have pulse installed? If so, you need to set everything to use that and not alsa or oss
[15:58] <schmrz> papapep: kk.
[15:58] <Blizzerand> !Floodbot
[15:58] <NqqmNet> lstarnes, permession on /
[15:58] <fnord2> th0r, yes.
[15:58] <fnord2> Moment.
[15:58] <lstarnes> NqqmNet: changing the kernel does not change permissions on anything
[15:59] <sipior> freakynl: if the 500k upload also didn't work, what makes you suspect that overflow is the issue?
[15:59] <NqqmNet> lstarnes, i chown and now i cant su/sudo
[15:59] <papapep> what does kk mean?
[15:59] <lstarnes> NqqmNet: you should never mess with the permissions of /
[15:59] <NqqmNet> too late ;p
[15:59] <mataks> how to have kde icons and panel in gnome? is that possible
[15:59] <lstarnes> NqqmNet: if possible, reboot, go into recovery mode, and fix the permissions on /
[15:59] <sipior> papapep: "okay" (emphatically)
[16:00] <freakynl> sipior: simple, if i reduce the values to say 2040M uploads go fine. if values are at 4096M can't upload even the smallest of files with php warning: PHP Warning:  POST Content-Length of 1532529 bytes exceeds the limit of 0 bytes in Unknown on line 0, referer: http://192.168.246.92/index.php?a=mod_doc
[16:00] <papapep> sipior: oh, thx :)
[16:00] <NqqmNet> lstarnes, whats the permissions on /
[16:00] <freakynl> especially the 'limit of 0 bytes'
[16:00] <fnord2> Did not work th0r.
[16:00] <fnord2> :/
[16:00] <sipior> freakynl: yes, i see what you mean. yet another reason to laugh at php, i guess :-)
[16:01] <lstarnes> NqqmNet: mode 0755, owned by user root, group root
[16:01] <doug_> .
[16:01] <NqqmNet> lstarnes, okey tnx
[16:01] <VCoolio> mataks: you can run kde-panel (if that's the name), but probably the logout / shutdown options won't work; look on gnome-look.org for matching icon themes
[16:01] <th0r> fnord2: I don't use pulse so am doing this from memory...there is a padevchooser if I remember right...run it and check the pulse config settings
[16:01] <freakynl> sipior: well, 32bit integers overflow a bit over 2047M, but if I check the php module with file it appears to be a 64bit lib
[16:01] <fnord2> Is it okay if I query you th0r?
[16:02] <freakynl> sipior: or well to be exact it overflows a 2048M, 2048M - 1 byte should be ok :D
[16:02] <th0r> fnord2: keep it here in the channel....I don't know much about pulse
[16:02] <fnord2> Ah.
[16:02] <fnord2> Well, I'm not that into sound etc, padevchooser?
[16:03] <th0r> fnord2: just a sec while I boot up the gnome vm
[16:03] <fnord2> Thnx. :)
[16:03] <romeus1> hello
[16:03] <kigoug> is anybody else getting slow downloads from the archive.ubuntu.com ?
[16:03] <sipior> freakynl: the fact that the library is 64-bit does not imply that the variable used to store this configuration value is 64 bits wide. do you really need the 2GB transfers?
[16:04] <kigoug> if it's under attack that will ruin my day, i hope it's just maintenance somewhere (i'm getting 40KB/s on the archive, 1MB/s+ elsewhere)
[16:04] <freakynl> sipior: well 2 works, but 4 would be nice :D
[16:05] <fortunev> Is there a problem with Kernel 2.6.28-14?
[16:05] <th0r> fnord2: can't find it in the vm...this might take a while
[16:06] <fnord2> I have patience, thanks for helping. :)
[16:06] <sipior> fortunev: why do you think there might be?
[16:06] <majlap> any one know of a program or a webpage to help me setup xmdcp (i THINK that right)
[16:06] <Darken87> hello
[16:06] <fortunev> sipior: after installing updates today, I get the grub error 13 Unsupported or invalid executable
[16:07] <th0r> fnord2: it is an optional extra...padevchooser...you need to install it separately. Don't know if it will help, but if I remember correctly I needed it to get pulse working when I tried it
[16:07] <romeus1> I'm running Ubuntu 9.04. I succesfully downgraded and locked  xserver and related packages so that I can use the fglrx drivers. It worked, but I didn't like the catalyst so I decided to revert. Everything is back to normal 3d support is no longer working.
[16:07] <fnord2> <- goes trying @ th0r
[16:07] <hellothere123> join #stumpwm
[16:08] <Darken87> A music messaging session has been requested. Please click the MM icon to accept.
[16:08] <romeus1> any idea how I can get 3d working again with the open source ATI driver?
[16:08] <Beyecixramd> me voy a echar la siesta (si, a las 5 de la tarde) xD
[16:08] <Beyecixramd> chao!
[16:09] <fnord2> after the install th0r, do I need to restart pulse?
[16:09] <Darken87> can anyone help me with how or which app to use to install Ubuntu 9.04 on my labtop?
[16:09] <th0r> fnord2: I don't think so, but like I said....don't use pulse, just tried it once
[16:09] <fnord2> Darken87 -> download the ISO, burn it and boot from the CD.
[16:09] <fnord2> :P
[16:10] <fnord2> Well, on my former laptop the sound worked directly.
[16:10] <fnord2> On this laptop it didn't,
[16:10] <Darken87> is that the desktop version?
[16:10] <fnord2> and I tried the sound troubleshooting guide from ubuntu.
[16:10] <PhillipA> Darken87: yep
[16:10] <fnord2> Then someone gave me a topic which said he fixed it by using OSS.
[16:10] <fnord2> Didn't work either.
[16:10] <Guest76277> hey soy nuevo en esto y necesito saber como crear un canal para un grupo de usuarios de GNU/Linux
[16:11] <estan> hey. anyone know if there's a place where i can search all the ubuntu packages in the official repositories for packages that depend on a given package?
[16:11] <th0r> !es
[16:11] <estan> i'd like to know exactly which packages in the entire official repos that depend on the wv2 package.
[16:11] <Darken87> Well I have the original that I sent for and I tryed that but it didn't work?
[16:11] <fortunev> Has anyone else had problems with grub loading kernel 2.6.28-14 after installing upgrades?
[16:11] <rootlinuxusr> The window on the default bottom panel - that shows open windows and what not - what's it's name and how can I make it appear on the top panel - note I removed the bottom panel for AWN
[16:12] <PhillipA> estan: you can use synaptic for that
[16:12] <amgarching> hi, I am new to gnome. Where do I tell gnome not to lock display after some time of inactivity?
[16:12] <Pici> estan: You can search from your terminal by using apt-cache rdepends packagename
[16:12] <PhillipA> amgarching: preferences -> screensaver
[16:12] <stercor> How do I create a launcher on a Gnome desktop?  There appears to be no GUI app that will do this.  I've searched on all the right-click options.
[16:13] <estan> Pici: won't that only search in packages that i have installed?
[16:13] <estan> PhillipA: ^ ?
[16:13] <PhillipA> what Pici suggested is better, estan
[16:13] <Darken87> Is there a differen't version or does it make a difference?
[16:13] <Joe1> hey does anyone know if the dazzle DVC 80 is compatible with ubuntu 9.04 ?
[16:13] <Pici> estan: No, that searches the package caches, everything in the repo for your release. (well that you have enabled in your sources.list that is)
[16:14] <estan> Pici: alright, great thanks.
[16:14] <estan> PhillipA: thanks.
[16:14] <PhillipA> estan: anytime
[16:14] <Joe1> does anyone know if the dazzle dvc 80 is compatible with ubuntu 9.04 ?
[16:14] <VCoolio> rootlinuxusr: add window list to top panel?
[16:15] <Darken87> What is the Netbook remix version for?
[16:15] <rootlinuxusr> Ahh, I tried that previously, but I guess I had to stretch it out so they weren't little buttons. Sanke. =]
[16:15] <lstarnes> Darken87: netbooks
[16:16] <PhillipA> Darken87: like the eee pc, really low-power compact computers
[16:16] <VCoolio> stercor: create .desktop files with text editor; look in /usr/share/applications for examples
[16:16] <Darken87> so not labtops?=-O
[16:16] <PhillipA> Darken87: most mainstream laptops will be fine with the desktop edition
[16:17] <PhillipA> and most netbooks, for that matter
[16:17] <Joe1> Darken87; i believe it can work on a laptop make sure you back up all your data and then keep an extra copy of your current os incase it goes wrong
[16:18] <gartral> netbooks are a JOKE
[16:18] <Darken87> How about Toshiba Satellite L305D-S5928
[16:18] <mechtech> ok...so my computer screen was asleep...then suddenly, the xchat window appeared over it...what's u?p with that
[16:19] <Darken87> Well the reason I want to put it on my labtop is be cause I Have lost my current Os system
[16:19] <Joe1> Darken; try it see if it works make sure you keep an os cd though
[16:19] <PhillipA> Darken87: probably desktop edition is best for that...
[16:19] <Joe1> as phillipA said
[16:19] <jmazikowski> Hi, I upgraded to kernel 2.6.28-14-generic and am now no longer able to use my wireless card... The madwifi driver under restricted drivers has not helped either.
[16:19] <PhillipA> Darken87: what os did you lose?
[16:20] <mechtech> gartral: I agree...for the money I'd much rather have a VIA embedded system
[16:20] <Darken87> Vista
[16:20] <Darken87> I will try again thoug
[16:20] <th0r> jmazikowski: I filed a bug report on that issue. Press ESC at bootup and go back to 28-13
[16:20] <InCubaTor>  jackd and ffado almost work now.... but after some seconds jackd stops. here i have some info: http://www.pastie.org/563702 http://www.pastie.org/563696
[16:20] <Joe1> Darken; vista did have an advantage isnt there a system recovery tool at the start of boot its like f11 or something
[16:20] <PhillipA> th0r: where is this bug report you speak of?
[16:20] <Darken87> ya but it failed
[16:20] <PhillipA> i'm interested
[16:21] <th0r> PhillipA: I have the number files somewhere...would have to look for  it
[16:21] <Joe1> darken; try the desktop remix then
[16:21] <Darken87> I called the company and they said to take it and have it repaired
[16:21] <jmazikowski> th0r: I tried booting into 28-13 and it still failed to work. When I right click on the network monitor in my notification area 'wireless network' is no longer an option.
[16:22] <Darken87> is that the netbook one?
[16:22] <Joe1> Darken; yeah
[16:22] <th0r> jmazikowski: yeah, that is what happened to me, but backing up to -13 fixed it.
[16:22] <Darken87> I did that too
[16:22] <iluminator101> How do i burn more than once once on cdr on k3b
[16:22] <lwells> will the  linux kernal 2.6.28.14 mess up my nvidia driver?
[16:23] <jmazikowski> th0r: That's what I'm saying, I went back to -13 and still have the same problem... I have the jaunty backports installed, if that makes any difference
[16:23] <PhillipA> th0r, jmazikowsky: is this a specific wifi card? would ndiswrapper be an option, maybe?
[16:23] <Joe1> illuminator; cant you set the number of copies ?
[16:23] <th0r> PhillipA: I filed it with Launchpad, you should be able to search for it there
[16:23] <PhillipA> thanks!
[16:23] <Joe1> Darken; i am not sure then can you not install any os on ?
[16:23] <th0r> PhillipA: I have two cards running, one uses ndiswrapper and worked ok...the internal one died
[16:23] <Joe1> Darken; i am not sure then can you not install any os onto your system?
[16:23] <Xerran> Anyone familiar with Radeon driver installation?
[16:23] <jmazikowski> PhillipA: it's the Atheros AR242x card
[16:24] <Darken87> I'm trying again, I'm not sure but I'll give it another try
[16:24] <Joe1> Darken; okay tell me how it goes
[16:24] <Darken87> np
[16:24] <Darken87> I'll be here..lol
[16:25] <amgarching> after working with several screen resolutions I ended up with clock & co  in the middle of the upper panel. How do I move it to the right border?
[16:26] <Joe1> Darken; i am not sure then can you not install any os on ?
[16:26] <Joe1> sorry
[16:26] <Joe1> lol didnt mean to past that
[16:26] <amgarching> never mind, it was "Locked to panel"
[16:26] <saml> how can I remove a package and all dependencies not used by other packages?
[16:26] <platius> jmazikowski;  I just updated 9.04 kernel and my atheros AR2413 still works with WPC security. Using the System>Hardware driver
[16:26] <platius> WPA
[16:27] <Joe1> does anyone know if the pinaccle dvc 80 is compatible with ubuntu ?
[16:27] <th0r> saml: sudo apt-get autoremove
[16:27] <PhillipA> sam1: apt-get uninstall, then apt-get autoremove
[16:27] <ldlework_> How do I format my USB drive to FAT32?
[16:27] <saml> th0r, thank you
[16:27] <jmazikowski> platius: The madwifi driver (under system>hardware driver) says it is active and in use but I'm still having the same problem.
[16:27] <PhillipA> ldlework_: mkfs.vfat
[16:27] <ldlework_> PhillipA, I'm not sure the device name
[16:28] <cbord> ldlework_: you can also install gparted and use that
[16:28] <amgarching> how do you maximize a window in *vertical* direction? This was middle mouse in KDE.
[16:28] <PhillipA> ldlework_: dmesg | grep usb
[16:29] <jmazikowski> amgarching: do you mean roll it up so the title bar is all you see?
[16:29] <markl_> does ubuntu LTS have GPT in the default kernel?
[16:29] <platius> jmazikowski;  I'm not using the madwifi driver.  Not sure how to debug your problem.
[16:29] <PhillipA> or something, it's usually /dev/sdb1, if you have just 1 hdd
[16:30] <romeus1> I'm running Ubuntu 9.04. I succesfully downgraded and locked  xserver and related packages so that I can use the fglrx drivers. It worked, but I didn't like the catalyst so I decided to revert. Everything is back to normal 3d support is no longer working.  any idea how I can get 3d working again with the open source ATI driver?
[16:30] <jmazikowski> platius: that is the only option (other than the nvidia graphics drivers) under hardware drivers
[16:30] <ldlework_> a1551818@ITS-276736:~$ sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/sdb1
[16:30] <ldlework_> [sudo] password for a1551818:
[16:30] <ldlework_> mkfs.vfat 3.0.1 (23 Nov 2008)
[16:31] <ldlework_> Is that it?
[16:31] <platius> jmazikowski;  I'm booting the wifi pc now and will chek what options I have now.
[16:31] <ldlework_> lol seemed kind of quick
[16:31] <jmazikowski> platius: Cool, thanks
[16:31] <PhillipA> ldlework_: it is quick, try it now
[16:32] <ENT|TY> ello all
[16:32] <Vaporize> salut
[16:33] <leslemmings> salut
[16:33] <Vaporize> est ce que quelqu'un s'y connait en monitoring ?
[16:33] <PhillipA> !fr | leslemmings
[16:33] <Vaporize> oups
[16:33] <ramavadakattu> if i specify a cron job with * * * * *   what does it mean ? (basically i want to run the script every time)
[16:33] <leslemmings> ok
[16:34] <stercor> ramavadakattu: every minute?
[16:34] <platius> jmazikowski;  I now have only the madwifi (not activated) showing must be using the ath5k. I will activate madwifi and see what happens
[16:34] <ramavadakattu> stercor : i want the script  to run again as soon as it completes
[16:34] <InCubaTor> jackd and ffado almost work now.... but after some seconds jackd stops. here i have some info: http://www.pastie.org/563702 http://www.pastie.org/563696
[16:35] <ENT|TY> does anyone know if their is a HP mini sprint card driver for linux?
[16:35] <stercor> ramavadakattu: Then that will do it.
[16:35] <markl_> is anyone here familiar with GPT/EFI issues?  i am wondering if ubuntu hardy supports it out of the box
[16:35] <ramavadakattu> stercor: Thanks
[16:35] <markl_> if not, does jaunty?
[16:35] <platius> jmazikowski;  says madwifi is already active and in use.
[16:35] <stercor> ramavadakattu: Another solution might be an endless bash script.
[16:36] <stercor> ramavadakattu: that way, the next invocation starts after the program finishes.
[16:37] <ramavadakattu> stercor : ok but i need initiate that script  manually  on my production server so iam thinking to go with * * * * *
[16:37] <stercor> ramavadakattu: With the crontab, you might get several instances running at the same time.
[16:37] <mechtech> my computer screen was asleep this morning, when suddenl the xchat window appeared over it...anyone know why?y
[16:37] <ramavadakattu> stercor : ok
[16:37] <firecrotch> I'm having a problem with network routes that I've set up disappearing from the routing table
[16:38] <Joe1> I have a DVC 80 USB Connection device and I want to trasfer video and edit it on Kino but I do not know how to do this not just that but it does not seem like ubuntu is recognising the USB connection. Does anyone know how I can fix this issue? I would appreciate the help. Thanks!
[16:38] <stercor> ramavadakattu: Funny things, these computers...
[16:38] <platius> jmazikowski;  hmm, having trouble connecting my wifi now
[16:38] <saml> is there a way to run vncserver without password?
[16:38]  * ENT|TY is digging ubuntu
[16:38] <Joe1> I have a DVC 80 USB Connection device and I want to trasfer video and edit it on Kino but I do not know how to do this not just that but it does not seem like ubuntu is recognising the USB connection. Does anyone know how I can fix this issue? I would appreciate the help. Thanks!
[16:38] <stercor> ramavadakattu: Production? Oh, dear.  Please be careful.
[16:39] <platius> jmazikowski;  hmm, having trouble connecting my wifi now
[16:39] <ramavadakattu> stercor :oh...... ok   Can't i prevent multiple instances? i just want another instance to start only after the first gets complete
[16:39] <firecrotch> !repeat | Joe1
[16:40] <jmazikowski> I just did what th0r suggested, and rebooted to 28-13 and am still having this problem
[16:40] <stercor> ramavadakattu: Then the bash script is a possibility.
[16:41] <nsgn> looking for a quick recommendation for a program to make a full disk image backup of my ubuntu system drive to a samba share
[16:41] <ramavadakattu> stercor :  ok but i don't know scripting language :( will try to learn
[16:41] <platius> jmazikowski; need to leave now. I have a laptop with ateros I will check it later
[16:41] <sipior> nsgn: partimage
[16:41] <stercor> ramavadakattu: I'm not too familiar with bash.  Perhaps someone else can help you with this.
[16:41] <nsgn> sipior: does it run with the system up or down?
[16:42] <sipior> nsgn: since you'd be imaging the partitions, best if they're unmounted first :-)
[16:42] <ramavadakattu> stercor : sure  i will figure it out no problem
[16:42] <fortunev> I would just like to say thank you to the entire Linux community. You guys Rock!
[16:42] <donnybrasco> I'm trying to update my system, but I keep getting the following msg:
[16:42] <sanguisdex> can I get a recommendation on quick and easy OCR software
[16:42] <donnybrasco> "E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[16:42] <donnybrasco> E: Unable to lock the download directory"
[16:42] <nsgn> sipior: got ya. i certainly have software that does it when it's unmounted, but i'm looking for something i can fire off weekly on my work laptop without stopping and booting off another medium
[16:42] <fortunev> ...and sipior is at the top of the list ... today anyway
[16:42] <donnybrasco> anyone know what the problem is?
[16:42] <clerum> I see on USN-808-1 that updated packages or bind have been released http://secunia.com/advisories/36060/2/
[16:43] <sipior> nsgn: best just to use rsync in that event
[16:43] <masquerade> donnybrasco: hi
[16:43] <stercor> ramavadakattu: man bash
[16:43] <clerum> but I'm not seeing them when I do an apt-update + apt-get upgrade
[16:43] <masquerade> donnybrasco: most probably another package management software is running
[16:43] <Xerpod> Hey people, just wondering if any networking gurus have any time to help me with a strange one? :)
[16:43] <sipior> nsgn: or play around with zfs snapshots, but that's not exactly bulletproof on linux atm
[16:43] <donnybrasco> masquerade: no that's not it
[16:44] <masquerade> donnybrasco: did you try to do a clean reboot?
[16:44] <donnybrasco> masquerade: define clean reboot
[16:44] <donnybrasco> I just booted up 10 minutes ago, if that's what you mean
[16:44] <ramavadakattu> stercor : yes will do that
[16:45] <stercor> ramavadakattu:
[16:45] <stercor>        while list; do list; done
[16:45] <stercor>        until list; do list; done
[16:45] <markl_> Xerpod: what is your issue?
[16:45] <nsgn> sipior: perhaps i should be looking at some method of doing file level backup to a virtual filesystem disk image
[16:45] <stercor> ramavadakattu: while 1 do ... done
[16:45] <sipior> nsgn: you might have a look at http://rsnapshot.org, which is based on rsync also.
[16:46] <clerum> this s on 8.10
[16:46] <tahseen> hello, after using cfdisk to make partition on a sata hdd xp installation disk won't detect the hdd .. does anyone have any clue?
[16:46] <ramavadakattu> stercor : ok thanks will do that
[16:46] <nsgn> sipior: ah, rsync goodness. i use it on my servers, i was just too lazy to do it command line over here on ubuntu. that have a comfy gui? :)
[16:46] <ruadh> Hi. How do I install a .deb application in fluxbox?
[16:47] <sipior> nsgn: if you run your terminal under X Window, yes ;-)
[16:47] <tahseen> was using a ubuntu 8.1 livecd
[16:48] <saml> how can I add my script so that it'll run after/during boot ?
[16:48] <mbeierl> how does one change the location of fuse mount point from "~/.gvfs" to another location?  Is that even possible?
[16:48] <tahseen> I know its not an ubuntu issue per say but not sure where to ask
[16:48] <saml> /etc/init.d ?
[16:48] <mbeierl> saml: /etc/rc.local
[16:48] <alias1> hello, has anyone installed vmware for Ubuntu 9.04?
[16:48] <saml> thanks mbeierl
[16:48] <nsgn> hur har har! ok, let me ask this then. i am familiar and comfortable using rsync from my  BSD days, but am unfamiliar with disk images or virtual filesystems under ubuntu. what would be the best way to set a single file on the smb share that mounts locally as a linux filesystem for rsyncing into?
[16:48] <mbeierl> saml: call it from within that file
[16:49] <nsgn> once i've got it all figured out i'll just script it to be smooth
[16:49] <sipior> nsgn: actually, i'm a liar. look here for a preliminary gui effort: http://code.google.com/p/flyback/
[16:49] <Xerpod> markl_: I have a couple of ubuntu machines, 9.04, separated by a 100Mbps leased line. The two can communicate happily for a while, but when there is a moment of network inactivity (like when I go home :)) the connection drops. Re-establishing the connection takes a long time. A tried running arping and tcpdump on both sides, and the ARP broadcasts don't get through... until about 100 of them have passed, then they work? :| The only kit inbetween is a cisc
[16:50] <nsgn> sipior: ah, ok, i'll take a look. i may well just do it via plain ol rsync and a mounted disk image. where do i get a crash course in a good type of disk image for this setup?
[16:50] <DarthPidgin> list
[16:51] <DarthPidgin> Hollah! ;]
[16:51] <phearless> hi
[16:51] <phearless> how could I keep the sysstat data for a month, not for one week as it's by default ?
[16:52] <DarthPidgin> phearless, check /etc/sysstat/systat
[16:52] <mbeierl> Is it possible to change the location of fuse mount point from "~/.gvfs" to another location?
[16:52] <MartinE> hi all
[16:53] <iMatter> Hello, i am having Audio problems, i have no audio but apparently the system beep is still working.
[16:53] <phearless> thanks DarthPidgin , that's great !
[16:53] <MartinE> trying to install ubuntu from my usb memory stick. PC booted up ubuntu no problem but I have a text based initramfs. I've typed help for a list of commands but have no idea what to do. I basically want to install ubuntu to the HDD. Can someone advise pls?
[16:53] <jipsy> is this wer we chat?
[16:53] <DarthPidgin> phearless, no prob!
[16:53] <sipior> nsgn: not sure, exactly. why a disk image, instead of just a subdirectory on your backup filesystem?
[16:53] <jipsy> weak
[16:53] <Pici> jipsy: This is the official Ubuntu support channel.
[16:54] <jipsy> hi everyone!!!! im having trouble with my desktop effects...i keep losing it everytime i rebot....HELPP! ^^
[16:54] <mneptok> MartinE: did you use the liveusb-creator-ubuntu package to create the USB disk?
[16:54] <MartinE> yes, I used the create usb from my other pc running ubuntu mneptok
[16:55] <Xerpod> Oh, while I'm here - anyone else have problems / solution for the screen resolution changing each time I reboot? Ubuntu 9.04 & Nvidia
[16:55] <mneptok> MartinE: did you checksum the .iso you used?
[16:55] <nsgn> sipior: 1) it's on a windows server and i don't trust the integrity of how NTFS handles individual file attributes, 2) NTFS fragmentation (a big issue on this server) is much easier to manage without dumping a whole system's worth of 30,000 files on it 3) i'm about to bring a second server into the situation and portability of this backup file would be nice since i'm undecided where my backup will reside long term
[16:55] <InCubaTor> jackd and ffado almost work now.... but after some seconds jackd stops. here i have some info: http://www.pastie.org/563702 http://www.pastie.org/563696
[16:55] <MartinE> the original iso was downloaded directly from ubuntu and has installed within windows on my other pc without problems. I haven't checksummed the usb
[16:56] <J1m_> does anyone know the name of the gui network configuration tool in 9.04?  It no longer seems to be in the menus.
[16:56] <nsgn> sipior: i'd just love one file stored on NTFS that mounts up as a local r/w filesystem on ubuntu. i did it constantly on macosx/bsd using apple's disk image format and rsync to backup
[16:56] <jethro> i am having trouble getting flash player to work with firefox 3.5 in Intrepid AMD64. I installed firefox 3.5 with ubuntuzilla, can anyone help me out???
[16:56] <MartinE> it says BusyBox v1.1.3 built in shell at the top of my screen
[16:57] <DarthPidgin> jipsy, what kind of graphics card do you have?
[16:57] <jipsy> everytime is restart my laptop i keep losing my desktop effects...y is dat?
[16:57] <jipsy> intel
[16:57] <thehit4hire> I have a noob question for somone to answer?
[16:58] <michalxo> hey all! was PAudio "defaulted" to 8.10?
[16:58] <xangua> jipsy: read the release note
[16:58] <michalxo> or still on alsa
[16:58] <thehit4hire> I am getting a very loud click noise from my speakers when I try to play a sound?
[16:58] <jethro> i am having trouble getting flash player to work with firefox 3.5 in Intrepid AMD64. I installed firefox 3.5 with ubuntuzilla, can anyone help me out???
[16:58] <J1m> does anyone know the name of the gui network configuration tool in 9.04?  It no longer seems to be in the menus.
[16:58] <DarthPidgin> jipsy, did you previously use or are you using compiz?
[16:58] <BlueEagle> !flash | jethro
[16:58] <jipsy> yes i am
[16:58] <michalxo> jethro, try installing mozilla-flasplugin-nonfree
[16:58] <xangua> jipsy: no privates, read the topic
[16:58] <jipsy> wer the realease note?
[16:59] <InCubaTor> jackd and ffado almost work now.... but after some seconds jackd stops. here i have some info: http://www.pastie.org/563702 http://www.pastie.org/563696
[16:59] <InCubaTor> anoyone?
[16:59] <panfist> is there a reason that installing apache on ubuntu defaults to apache2.conf loading a blank httpd.conf?
[16:59] <DarthPidgin> xangua, I Can't remember any trouble in the combi Intel <> compiz
[16:59] <InCubaTor> anyone+
[17:00] <xangua> jum...................
[17:00] <thehit4hire> Would there be a reason for the loud clicking?
[17:00] <Jordanmota> any ideas why FireFox is a tad slow, like with scrolling the page etc ?
[17:00] <jipsy> well im having one
[17:00] <jipsy> got any ideas in what i shud do?
[17:00] <MartinE> do u think that it failed to correcly make a boot disk ?
[17:00] <DarthPidgin> jipsy, I mean, not the hardware support kinda problem
[17:00] <SnakDoc> thehit4hire u use pidgin ?
[17:00] <nsgn> i'm just having one heck of a time finding a read/write disk image approach for ubuntu
[17:00] <thehit4hire> Yes
[17:01] <jipsy> anybody?
[17:01] <michalxo> jipsy, ?
[17:01] <DarthPidgin> jipsy, are your ccsm settings all right?
[17:02] <thehit4hire> SnakDoc I am using pidgin
[17:02] <SnakDoc> thehit4hire thats whats making noise i use to have that issue i found cutting sound down would fix it but still no idea as to y it does that
[17:02] <jipsy> yeah it worked but when i reboot i lost all my effects
[17:02] <sipior> nsgn: well, those are good reasons, although i'd just avoid ntfs to begin with (realising grudgingly that that may not be entirely realistic for some)
[17:02] <DarthPidgin> jipsy, If so: try compiz --replace from the terminal, what does it say?
[17:03] <ingcomrbr> How can I share a printer on my net.. I got windows XP and I want share with LAN ..
[17:03] <SnakDoc> thehit4hire i switched to Empathy which is going to be default far as i know in 9.10 and it works without static noise
[17:03] <jipsy> then i again make another cube then i again reboot my laptop then again i lost my previous setting with compiz
[17:03] <nsgn> sipior: oh i know, but ntfs is the reality on this server. that isnt changing. am i just googling horribly or is there really no common read/write disk image methods for linux/ubuntu?
[17:03] <jipsy> wat do i type in the terminal?? compiz?
[17:04] <DarthPidgin> "compiz --replace"
[17:04] <thehit4hire> SnakDoc When i first installed ubuntu on my laptop the sound worked great. Then all of a sudden about four hours later anytime I try playing a sound the speakers start making a very loud and fast clicking noise. I dont know hat would cause this
[17:04] <jipsy> ok wait ill try
[17:04] <mbeierl> Is it possible to change the location of fuse mount point from "~/.gvfs" to another location?
[17:04] <sipior> nsgn: well, you'd generally make use of the loop device under mount, but i'm not sure how that reacts with samba. not something i've ever tried.
[17:04] <jrib> nsgn: what do you mean by "linux filesystem"?
[17:04] <Jordanmota> I have a ATI Radeon Xpress 200 (on board graphic chip). Is there a driver I should download & install, or not bother?
[17:05] <rootlinuxusr> how do i format a drive with ntfs-3g I've got it down to mkfs.ntfs? /dev/sdb1 but I cannot figure which fs to specify
[17:05] <SnakDoc> thehit4hire not sure maybe someone else here will know more about sound and can help better mine was just with pidgin
[17:05] <thehit4hire> Snakdoc: Thanks
[17:05] <yabuk> there is no openoffice.org-ogltrans to isntall, how can I get openGL transition on opeoffice 3.0.1? (I'm using ubuntu 9.04)
[17:05] <nsgn> jrib: i mean a single file that can be stored on the NTFS server, but mounted over here it would be a linux native filesystem i can rsync into without any concern over loss of file attributes, etc
[17:06] <MartinE> can someone tell me the correct procedure to create a bootable usb stick so I can install ubuntu on my laptop whose dvd is broken
[17:06] <nsgn> ext3 or the like
[17:06] <jrib> nsgn: I see.  Why not just tar.gz your backup?
[17:06] <snadge> my sun java isnt working on 64bit ubuntu jaunty, i've tried googling.. is there a factoid or can someone point me to how to get 64bit java to work in a web browser (firefox) on jaunty?
[17:06] <masquerade> MartinE: theres an article on the wiki..
[17:06] <nsgn> jrib: can i update a tar.gz file weekly without re-creating?
[17:06] <thehit4hire> When i first installed ubuntu on my laptop the sound worked great. Then all of a sudden about four hours later anytime I try playing a sound the speakers start making a very loud and fast clicking noise. Would anyone know what would cause this?
[17:06] <xangua> snadge: have you installed the java plugin ¿¿
[17:07] <xangua> yabuk: it was removed because stability issues
[17:07] <snadge> xangua: i have installed the java plugin.. the problem seems to be the applets fail to initialize/launch properly
[17:07] <nanotube> thehit4hire: could be that you need to restart pulseaudio?
[17:07] <yabuk> xangua: so, there is no way to use it?!!!!!!
[17:07] <yabuk> *is there
[17:08] <xangua> wait untill next ubuntu release¿¿ yabuk
[17:08] <thehit4hire> nanotube: Oh ok how would I go about doing that? I have never used ubuntu before today.
[17:08] <yabuk> xangua,ok, thanks
[17:08] <syntax> What was the update for in ubuntu?
[17:08] <michalxo> hey guys! having PA issue with freshly upgraded 8.10 from 8.04
[17:09] <michalxo> http://pastebin.ca/1511162
[17:09] <nanotube> thehit4hire: oh... well in that case, easiest thing is to just reboot, and see if that helps, rather than manually hunt the pulseaudio processes :)
[17:09] <jrib> nsgn: well I know you can with a regular tar but I'm not aware of backup systems to take advantage of this
[17:09] <VCoolio> thehit4hire: "sudo /etc/init.d/pulseaudio restart" in terminal should do it
[17:10] <nsgn> jrib: so how the heck are people backing up that dont want to take a fresh 100gb image every week, nor do they want 30,000+ files sprawling on a remote server?
[17:10] <nanotube> VCoolio: that doesn't work for me when my pulseaudio is dead, have to manually kill processes...
[17:10] <jrib> nsgn: they do the sane thing and use an actual linux filesystem...
[17:10] <nanotube> VCoolio: hence, i don't suggest it...
[17:10] <DarthPidgin> nsgn, they only back up what is changed ;}
[17:10] <VCoolio> nanotube: ok, fair enough
[17:10] <sipior> nsgn: interesting discussion here, for your perusal: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=246500
[17:11] <jrib> !backup > nsgn
[17:11] <nanotube> nsgn: try "rsnapshot". it's doing great for me.
[17:11] <nanotube> nsgn: another thing to try is "rdiff-backup"
[17:11] <jrib> nsgn: I would go through the options presented there, visit the official sites and search the documentation for "ntfs".  That may give you a lead
[17:11] <VCoolio> nanotube: isn't there a "force reload" option that would work?
[17:11] <thehit4hire> nanotube: I rebooted the PC a few minutes ago and when it logged back in the computer played the startup sounds fine but no mp3's movies or other system sounds will correctly play?
[17:12] <DarthPidgin> jipsy, still alive?
[17:12] <sipior> nsgn: looks like it may be possible to loop-mount a file-image that has been exported via smb.
[17:12] <Pr0Br0> ha shit i partitioned with gparted and now i can't boot lol
[17:12] <nanotube> VCoolio: read the source of /etc/init.d/pulseaudio, force-reload and restart do the same thing.
[17:12] <dagama> I am trying to check the size of a partition through SSH, what command should I use?
[17:13] <nanotube> VCoolio: at any rate, even "stop" doesn't kill the processes when pulseaudio is hung. so... :)
[17:13] <cellofellow> dagama: fdisk -l
[17:13] <jrib> nsgn: if that doesn't prove fruitful, then look at how wubi works...
[17:13] <nanotube> thehit4hire: hrm... then i'm a bit out of ideas.
[17:13] <jipsy> darthpidgin it sais that unknown option
[17:14] <nsgn> sipior: well, if we say for the moment that this isnt practical or possible, of dumping all the files on ntfs or just running the full 100gb image each week i'd rather run the full image. is there any method for doing so with the filesystem mounted?
[17:14] <dagama> cellofellow: that doesn't give any feedback
[17:15] <thehit4hire> nanotube: I have searched online but to no avail. I have realtek ACL250.
[17:15] <jipsy> when i typed "compiz --repair" the computer read and the screen was like reading then it told me that "unknown option"
[17:15] <cellofellow> dagama: you have to supply the disk you want to list. fdisk -l /dev/sda for example
[17:15] <mook> hey guys i need some help in installing something any takers on helping a village idiot ?
[17:15] <DarthPidgin> it's 'compiz --replace'
[17:15] <qwyeth> !ask
[17:15] <cellofellow> dagama: oh, it gives the size in blocks, hm
[17:15] <jipsy> ok ill try again
[17:15] <Pr0Br0> hey is there any way i can mark a ntfs drive as active under ubuntu? the only way i'm aware of is the supergrub cd
[17:16] <sipior> nsgn: you know, one possibility would be to generate the filesystem diffs with rsnapshot, saving them to a loop filesystem on your linux box, then push that image out to your ntfs filesystem.
[17:16] <DarthPidgin> jipsy, so first open gnome-terminal, then type compiz --replace
[17:16] <mook> ok im trying to install the livedvd file thing so i can play dvd's
[17:16] <erUSUL> Pr0Br0: active ? you mean bootable ?
[17:16] <cellofellow> dagama: never mind the, not sure which command will give you the size in GB.
[17:16] <Pr0Br0> yeah erUSUL
[17:16] <jipsy> now my monitor blinked trice and sed xgl no present
[17:16] <nsgn> sipior: and unfortunately thats over my head at this time
[17:16] <erUSUL> Pr0Br0: gparted/parted/fdisk/cfdisk should be able to do that
[17:16] <qwyeth> mook: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[17:17] <nsgn> sipior: coming from bsd i know many of the utilities but lack the under the hood linux specifics
[17:17] <mook> libdvdread3<---- trying to install this how do i do it ?
[17:17] <mbeierl> does anyone here know anything about fuse and/or gvfs on ubuntu?
[17:17] <MerlinW> i think, the DVD version is not live
[17:17] <DarthPidgin> jipsy, and further?
[17:17] <nsgn> i think i just got spoiled by apple's excellent and completely smooth ability to use read/write disk images from a remote network share
[17:17] <dagama> cellofellow: ok :)
[17:17] <mook> hmm
[17:17] <MerlinW> never was
[17:17] <asfasfsasa> I'm not african-american, how do you pronounce ubuntu and not look like an idiot?
[17:18] <MerlinW> but bootable
[17:18] <arand> mook: apt-get install libdvdread3 ?
[17:18] <DarthPidgin> oebuntoe
[17:18] <Pr0Br0> hey thanks erUSUL i'll try that out, just throw that in the terminal?
[17:18] <jipsy> it paused...im still waiting...theres still a square box
[17:18] <DarthPidgin> :]
[17:18] <seyacat> hi ubuntu
[17:18] <Pici> asfasfsasa: The proper way is: ooh-boon-too
[17:18] <seyacat> do you know command to launch gnome sound prefences?
[17:18] <mook> i'll give it a shot im new to linux
[17:18] <DarthPidgin> that 'boon' depends on where you are from :0
[17:18] <erUSUL> Pr0Br0: this are fourd different partitions editors for linux... gparted is graphical
[17:18] <deany> I say oo-bun-2  :)
[17:18] <asfasfsasa> sudo rm -rf /*
[17:18] <erUSUL> !gparted | Pr0Br0
[17:19] <scavenger> @seyacat: gnome-sound-properties
[17:19] <Pici> !danger | asfasfsasa
[17:19] <thehit4hire> When i first installed ubuntu on my laptop the sound worked great. Then all of a sudden about four hours later anytime I try playing a sound the speakers start making a very loud and fast clicking noise. Would anyone know what would cause this?
[17:19] <sipior> nsgn: you can have a look at the "LOOP" section of the mount manual, to start. it may be that you can now mount image files mounted via samba, so give it a try.
[17:19] <erUSUL> !danger | asfasfsasa
[17:19] <otacon122> Are there programs for Ubuntu Server to regulate bandwidth?  I'm wanting a program or a tool that can regulate bandwidth on a per-application, per-connection, or per-time basis
[17:19] <erUSUL> !info trickle | otacon122
[17:19] <ingcomrbr> otancon122, squid
[17:19] <arand> mook: ok, I'd suggest using synaptic package manager otherwise, it's probably more begginer friendly.
[17:19] <seyacat> scavenger: i think than, but its not that command
[17:19] <asfasfsasa> I installed ubuntu, now my PC makes shrieking voices and craves KFC and watermellons, what do I do?
[17:20] <sipior> asfasfsasa: go away.
[17:20] <blind|melon|chit> !ops
[17:20] <jiohdi> asf, dont call it boy
[17:20] <Pr0Br0> your computer has been turned into an african american
[17:20] <asfasfsasa> NIGGERBUNTU, LINUX FOR SUBHUMAN BEINGS
[17:20] <jipsy> hmm the square thing just kept blinking...maybe its waiting for me to type something..shud i type compiz --replace again?
[17:20] <sipior> it's still the 21st century, right?
[17:21] <joh> Hi, I'm unable to get apt to authenticate against my proxy. I'm using export http_proxy=http://user:pass@server:port/, but get 407 Proxy Authentication Required
[17:21] <DarthPidgin> jipsy, if you use alt-f2 you can type it in again and you don't have to worry when you close the gnome-terminal window
[17:21] <nsgn> so right now it's looking like i should just DD this sucker and get on with life?
[17:21] <ingcomrbr> ikonia, Why you banned to blind?
[17:21] <thehit4hire> When i first installed ubuntu on my laptop the sound worked great. Then all of a sudden about four hours later anytime I try playing a sound the speakers start making a very loud and fast clicking noise. Would anyone know what would cause this?
[17:21] <jiohdi> sipior, 55th if you are jewish
[17:21] <mook> nope no luck on that in a terminal
[17:22] <jipsy> darth pidgin is my desktop effects ok now?
[17:22] <DarthPidgin> thehit4hire, bad taste of music
[17:22] <Pr0Br0> shitttt so i reboot and now it thinks the dell diagnostic utility is the primary windows installation
[17:22] <blind|melon|chit> ikonia: Why did you kick me out
[17:22] <DarthPidgin> dunno, try it out. :)
[17:22] <joskebakskes> can someone tell me what busybox is?
[17:22] <ikonia> blind|melon|chit: it was a total accident, my apologies
[17:22] <ingcomrbr> ikonia, why you kick her out?
[17:22] <jipsy> aye2x capt
[17:22] <arand> mook: are you sure that is the package you want?
[17:22] <blind|melon|chit> ikonia: Is that right, just happens to be an accident after we wind up having an argument in #ubuntu-ops
[17:22] <jipsy> thnx
[17:22] <ikonia> blind|melon|chit: nope, totally my mistake and apologies
[17:22] <DarthPidgin> jipsy, Works?
[17:23] <mook> i just need the file installed so i can watch dvd's on abuntu
[17:23] <michalxo> anyone to help me with a soundcard and PA? aplay -l
[17:23] <michalxo> aplay: device_list:215: no soundcards found
[17:23] <jiohdi> anyone know a client for yahoo chat?
[17:23] <mbeierl> anyone know how to pass the "-oallow_other" option to fuse from gvfs-mount ?
[17:23] <mook> the codec or what ever
[17:23] <blind|melon|chit> ikonia: Nice way to treat people reporting racists in the channel, I'm fucking out of here.
[17:23] <thehit4hire> DarthPidgin: Funny but no. I have no idea what is causing this. I have searched online but to no avail. I just cant figure this out.
[17:23] <scavenger> @joskebakskes - Busybox is a very basic binary file which contains ls, cat and other commands that should be on every Linux terminal.
[17:23] <xangua> !medibuntu | mook
[17:23] <arand> mook: libdvdread4 is an existing package for 9.04 Jaunty
[17:23] <panfist> where can i read about what the permissions mask means when using chmod?
[17:23] <jipsy> dunno i tried to close the terminal it sed that theres still a porcess going on closing it wil terminate the process
[17:23] <qwyeth> mook:  The page I linked you has two very simple commands that tell you how to install libdvdread4
[17:23] <joskebakskes> Someone helps... I want busybox advice :(
[17:23] <spO> how do i connect to Ubuntu in a gui console/similar to remote desktop other than VNC?   i would like to be able to start an independent session rather than taking control of another with vnc
[17:23] <DarthPidgin> thehit4hire, tried to reload pulseaudio?
[17:24] <scavenger> @jiohdi: Pidgin should do the trick.
[17:24] <arand> mook: so, look for it and install it in synaptic?
[17:24] <michalxo> anyone to help me with a soundcard and PA? aplay -l aplay: device_list:215: no soundcards found   + http://pastebin.ca/1511175
[17:24] <scavenger> @joskebakskes: What kind of advice?
[17:24] <mook> oh ok ty i'll try them thank you vary much and the commands are done in a terminal ?
[17:24] <michel_> bonjour
[17:24] <joskebakskes> scavenger: what is busybox....
[17:24] <mook> um ok i'll try it in thare then
[17:25] <ingcomrbr> ikonia, you shouldn't do that
[17:25] <mook> Arand ty for the info
[17:25] <michalxo> Anyone to help me with a soundcard and PA I am on 8.10? aplay -l aplay: device_list:215: no soundcards found   + http://pastebin.ca/1511175
[17:25] <Myrtti> ingcomrbr: he knows what he's doing
[17:25] <lstarnes> joskebakskes: it's a lightweight shell containing many basic lightweight utilities
[17:25] <thehit4hire> DarthPidgin: I tried that and also tried rebooting. When the computer starts back up it plays the startup sound fine but then it will not play mp3's or any other system sound either
[17:25] <ingcomrbr> mmmmm
[17:25] <DarthPidgin> thehit4hire, tried dpkg-reconfigure ?
[17:25] <bobbob1016> I'm trying to install Ubuntu via an alternate ppc install disc on a spare mac mini.  I have it booting via a powerbook in target disk mode since the CD-Rom in the mini is dead.  It gets to "detecting CD-Rom" then it can't find it.  Any ideas?
[17:25] <jethro> Whenever I try to play an .avi file the player automatically closes. I have tried Totem, VLC, and Mplayer with the same results, does anyone know what might be causing this?
[17:26] <thehit4hire> DarthPidgin: Not yet but will now.
[17:26] <DarthPidgin> thehit4hire,   do you know how to use it?
[17:26] <spO> so none of you know a way to connect to a remote gui session of ubuntu other than vnc?
[17:26] <michalxo> tightvnc :)
[17:27] <scavenger> @sp0 You could try FreeNX.
[17:27] <spO> thanks
[17:27] <thehit4hire> DarthPidgin: I just assumed I would run it as a command in the terminal but I have only been using ubuntu about 8 hours.
[17:27] <ikonia> ingcomrbr: if you want to discuss it - please join #ubuntu-ops, it's not for this channel
[17:27] <cellofellow> spO: yeah, FreeNX, and also there's just remote X11 sessions.
[17:27] <papapep> spO: ssh's -X feature
[17:27] <papapep> cellofellow: exactly
[17:27] <cellofellow> spO: networked X11 is only good on a fast LAN though.
[17:28] <Sp0tter> Will Jaunty work out of the box on a new Mac Mini?  I would like to dual boot osx and ubuntu.
[17:28] <ikonia> Sp0tter: should do
[17:28] <Sp0tter> The people in #mac say that linux on a mac is a bad idea.
[17:28] <DarthPidgin> thehit4hire, try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure pulseaudio'
[17:28] <jethro> Whenever I try to play an .avi file the player automatically closes. I have tried Totem, VLC, and Mplayer with the same results, does anyone know what might be causing this?
[17:28] <ikonia> Sp0tter: I've ran it fine
[17:28] <sipior> Sp0tter: well, i guess they would :-)
[17:28] <Sp0tter> :)
[17:28] <cellofellow> snuxoll says it's a good idea. :)
[17:28] <Sp0tter> i love you guys
[17:29] <qwyeth> Sp0tter:  I know someone who uses Linux on a Mac... He uses a distro called Yellow Dog Linux and I hear it works very well.
[17:29] <Pr0Br0> i love you to
[17:29] <snuxoll> cellofellow: I say what's a good idea?
[17:29] <michalxo> anyone to help me with a soundcard and PA? aplay -l aplay: device_list:215: no soundcards found   + http://pastebin.ca/1511175
[17:29] <cellofellow> snuxoll: linux on a mac
[17:29] <DarthPidgin> thehit4hire, oh: and "sudo dpkg-reconfigure pulseaudio-utils"
[17:29] <michalxo> anyone pls? :-(
[17:29] <thehit4hire> DarthPidgin: Ok
[17:29] <snuxoll> cellofellow: no I don't
[17:29] <cellofellow> oops, wrong
[17:29] <snuxoll> cellofellow: getting linux running on EFI is still painful as hell
[17:29] <panfist> i'm having trouble with a samba share. i have read only as no, writeable as yes, but i still can't overwrite existing files. i can create new ones, and delete them
[17:30] <Sp0tter> Can the osx partition be resized without reinstalling?  I'm brand new to macs.. this is my first one (which I am forced to get for iPhone development).. and I have only moderate linux experience
[17:30] <nsgn> sipior: my issue is creating one. what am i looking at here? an iso? what format is preferred in linux?
[17:30] <jethro> for some reason i cant play .avi files. can anyone help me out??
[17:30] <Sp0tter> trying to expand my horizons
[17:30] <DarthPidgin> thehit4hire, How are things working out?
[17:30] <Pr0Br0> okay so i'm on gparted, i'm staring right at my 90gb windows partition and i've explored the program and i see no way to make it bootable :(
[17:31] <Sp0tter> jethro I've found that when I can't play things, if I install VLC player,  that problem goes away
[17:31] <thehit4hire> DarthPidgin: Still very loud knocking .....constantly
[17:31] <jethro> sp0tter i have tried with VLC it closes as soon as it opens.
[17:31] <DarthPidgin> thehit4hire, can you describe the sound?
[17:31] <michalxo> realy none to help? :(
[17:31] <jethro> sp0tter it is the same with all media players with all .avi files
[17:31] <michalxo> aplay -l aplay: device_list:215: no soundcards found   + http://pastebin.ca/1511175
[17:31] <sipior> nsgn: have a look here for a good example:
[17:32] <sipior> nsgn: http://www.walkernews.net/2007/07/01/create-linux-loopback-file-system-on-disk-file/
[17:32] <mook> should i reboot after this or ?
[17:32] <jethro> Whenever I try to play an .avi file the player automatically closes. I have tried Totem, VLC, and Mplayer with the same results, does anyone know what might be causing this?
[17:32] <nsgn> sipior: excellent, reading
[17:33] <om26er> plz tell me how to move directory from terminal
[17:33] <thehit4hire> DarthPidgin: Best description that I can give is a freakin wood pecker on my front door. Very annoying.
[17:33] <jipsy> hey it worked thnx darthpidgin!!!! ^^ lastly dude do you know wer i can copy a setup for my desktop effects??any good set up will do
[17:33] <cellofellow> om26er: mv /source/directory /target/directory
[17:33] <Quiznos> mornin
[17:34] <cellofellow> Quiznos: have any sandwiches to share?
[17:34] <Quiznos> sure
[17:34] <Quiznos> it's lunch time
[17:34] <Pr0Br0> do i click manage flags on gparted make the partition bootable?
[17:34] <michalxo> Help pls aplay -l aplay: device_list:215: no soundcards found   + http://pastebin.ca/1511175
[17:34] <DarthPidgin> jipsy, back up  ~/.gconf/apps/compiz
[17:34] <jethro> Whenever I try to play an .avi file the player automatically closes. I have tried Totem, VLC, and Mplayer with the same results, does anyone know what might be causing this????
[17:34] <jipsy> wats that mean?
[17:34] <Quiznos> jethro no data?
[17:35] <mbeierl> is there a support channel for fuse or gvfs?
[17:35] <cellofellow> jethro: what kind of avi file is it? what codecs?
[17:35] <DarthPidgin> thehit4hire, first a stupid question: did you check if you used the right plug?
[17:35] <jethro> xvid
[17:35] <cellofellow> jethro: tried the command-line mplayer?
[17:35] <cellofellow> jethro: not that it'll play if gmplayer failed, but it'll tell you why it didn't work.
[17:35] <jipsy> wat happens if i typed that?~/.gconf/apps/compiz  im scared of messing up with my desktop effects heheh
[17:35] <jethro> cellofellow i have tried mplayer and it does not work
[17:36] <DarthPidgin> jipsy, copy /home/<your user name>/.gconf/apps/compiz to a cd. then you have a back-up of your compiz settings.
[17:36] <thehit4hire> DarthPidgin: No stupid questions exist, and they are internal laptop speakers
[17:36] <jethro> cellofellow will you tell me the com it command to play it?
[17:36] <cellofellow> jethro: mplayer thefile.avi
[17:36] <surgy> hi
[17:36] <Quiznos> wow an ozzie has called into Limbaugh's show
[17:36] <michalxo> Help pls aplay -l aplay: device_list:215: no soundcards found   + http://pastebin.ca/1511175
[17:36] <cellofellow> jethro: couldn't be simpler
[17:37] <DarthPidgin> thehit4hire, you are right. But it's such a simple something. Right. Checked your alsa/gnome mixer for the settings (try to dim your mic, for instance)
[17:37] <jipsy> ohh..aye2x capt!! but im looking for a gud setting that i cud just copy and make it my setting..got any ideas?
[17:37] <surgy> so i just logged back into ubuntu after about a while and noticed that we are now at 9.04? WOOT! anyways, my question is, is it really worth it to upgrade from 8.10 to 9.04? and what am i going to see thyats better?
[17:37] <DarthPidgin> jipsy, nope, that is something you have to do yourself. ;)
[17:37] <Quiznos> surgy read the Changelog.txt
[17:38] <DarthPidgin> surgy, YES
[17:38] <surgy> Quiznos, where?
[17:38]  * man3x is away (I`am Out)
[17:38] <michalxo> guys pls help me with that pulseaudio in 8.10
[17:38] <thehit4hire> DarthPidgin: No luck
[17:38] <Quiznos> no idar; i'm a reject from ##Linux
[17:38] <Quiznos> :)
[17:38] <Quiznos> im loitering here.
[17:38] <jipsy> oohhh ok...thnx dude...jejeje
[17:38] <AaronT1251> surgy, 9.04 is better, but if your happy with 8.10 you don't have to upgrade
[17:38] <surgy> DarthPidgin, so 9.04 pwbns on 8.10? how so?
[17:38] <igneousquill> surgy: That all depends on what you want.  I don't upgrade my 8.10 desktop at home because my family is used to it.  I upgraded immediately to 9.04 on my laptop and I like it.  Works well either way.
[17:39] <michalxo> Guys pls help me with that pulseaudio in 8.10.. no sound at all
[17:39] <michalxo> I am stuck
[17:39] <DarthPidgin> thehit4hire, what does executing 'cat /etc/asound.conf' give?
[17:39] <jethro> cellofellow it kept repeating"X11 error: BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)?,?% 0 0 "
[17:39] <surgy> igneousquill, what do you like about 9.04 over 8.10?
[17:39] <DarthPidgin> surgy, so many better things, just try it out. :)
[17:39] <Quiznos> jethro what app did that?
[17:39] <michalxo> surgy, try LiveCD
[17:39] <cellofellow> jethro: oh, dear. not sure what that means. Sounds like video driver problems.
[17:40] <jethro> quiznos mplayer
[17:40] <Quiznos> hmm
[17:40] <Quiznos> jethro latest ver of that?
[17:40] <DarthPidgin> surgy, what michalxo  says. good way to try
[17:40] <jethro> cellofellow i am having a nightmare with my video card
[17:40] <thehit4hire> DarthPidgin: Do I just enter that in the terminal?
[17:40] <jethro> i am using the apt-get install of it
[17:40] <DarthPidgin> thehit4hire, jup
[17:40] <surgy> ok thnx for the medocre information everyone
[17:40] <Quiznos> lol
[17:40] <Quiznos> yw
[17:40] <surgy> and il lsee you on the 9.04 side!
[17:40] <jethro> quiznos i installed with apt-get
[17:40] <Quiznos> we aim to disappoint :)
[17:40] <Quiznos> jethro ok
[17:40] <DarthPidgin> :] lol
[17:40] <surgy> lol
[17:40] <thehit4hire> DarthPidgin: It says no such file or directory
[17:40]  * Quiznos bows
[17:40] <Quiznos> ty tyvm.
[17:41] <Quiznos> it's good to be portable
[17:41] <michalxo> guys.. pls.. PA problem.. many inforomations, but crappy old sound card :(
[17:41] <jipsy> dude wer can i download cool backgrounds for my cube? ^^
[17:41] <DarthPidgin>     type pulse
[17:41] <DarthPidgin> }
[17:41] <DarthPidgin> ctl.pulse {
[17:41] <DarthPidgin>     type pulse
[17:41] <DarthPidgin> }
[17:41] <FloodBot3> DarthPidgin: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:41] <DarthPidgin> pcm.!default {
[17:41] <Quiznos> jipsy bed, bath and beyond?
[17:41] <cellofellow> jethro: try different video output "drivers" (mplayer output plugins). mplayer -vo help to get a list.
[17:42] <jipsy> what that mean?
[17:42] <cellofellow> jethro: I think it defaults to xv but might want to fiddle with that.
[17:42] <michalxo> DarthPidgin, pardon me?
[17:42] <DarthPidgin> thehit4hire, sorry, i was flooding... O_o
[17:42] <Quiznos> mplayer -vo xv|fbdev|fbdev2 files
[17:42] <DarthPidgin> again. Wait up
[17:42] <nsgn> sipior: good news: that loopback tutorial works awesomely
[17:42] <jethro> cellofellow i am pretty new to linux so i am not sure if i will know what to do
[17:42] <michalxo> DarthPidgin, query me?
[17:42] <sipior> nsgn: good, glad it helped.
[17:43] <thehit4hire> DarthPidgin: Sorry, Im confused.
[17:43] <nsgn> sipior: bad news: i cant conceive a way to make a sparse image, meaning i'll have to write 320GB of 0's to the image file on the server to initialize my image :/
[17:43] <jethro> is there a package of codecs?
[17:43] <Quiznos> yes, on the homepage
[17:43] <michalxo> jethro, w32codecs / gstreamer
[17:43] <cellofellow> jethro: try mplayer -vo xv thefile.avi
[17:43] <DarthPidgin> michalxo, nope.
[17:44] <michalxo> I just need a help gosh...
[17:44] <Quiznos> jethro yes, on the homepage
[17:44] <cellofellow> jethro: you have ubuntu-restricted-extras installed?
[17:44] <DarthPidgin> thehit4hire, check private msg
[17:44] <mneptok> michalxo: type "killall pulseaudio" (no quotes) in a temrinal and see if the problem persists
[17:44] <jethro> cellofellow i got the same insufficient resources error and yes i installed the extras i think
[17:44] <michalxo> mneptok, rebooted PC and it's still there
[17:45] <jethro> cellofellow how can i check to see if they are installed?
[17:45] <Quiznos> michalxo killall -9 pulseaudio
[17:45] <mneptok> michalxo: yes, because PA restarts when you reboot.
[17:45] <michalxo> no process killed
[17:45] <cellofellow> jethro: aptitude search ~iubuntu-restricted-extras
[17:45] <Quiznos> michalxo pidof puls...
[17:45] <michalxo> pulseaudio: no process killed
[17:45] <Quiznos> michalxo are you in gui or tty?
[17:45] <jipsy> i just used ubuntu...do i nid a java for this?
[17:45] <linh> hey
[17:45] <michalxo> Quiznos, GUI
[17:45] <nsgn> sipior: i think i may just give in and tar my files
[17:46] <Quiznos> michalxo term?
[17:46] <michalxo> 0 /usr/bin/dbus-launch --exit-with-session /usr/bin/pulse-session /usr/bin/seahorse-agent --execute x-session-manager
[17:46] <michalxo> gnome-term
[17:46] <michalxo> inal
[17:46] <Quiznos> ok
[17:46] <sipior> nsgn: can you initialise the file in situ, i.e., on the mounted ntfs filesystem itself?
[17:46] <babyshambles> hello, i want enabling surround sounds on jaunty. i followed instructions from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SurroundSound but it's for ubuntu. can someone write the cmd line for kubuntu please.
[17:46] <Quiznos> michalxo what is pulseaudio
[17:46] <jethro> cellofellow that didnt return anything
[17:46] <Quiznos> michalxo what is pulseaudio  parent process>
[17:46] <cellofellow> jethro: not installed then
[17:46] <michalxo> Quiznos, I am on 8.10? aplay -l aplay: device_list:215: no soundcards found   + http://pastebin.ca/1511175
[17:47] <michalxo> dunno about parent process
[17:47] <fosa> what's the easiest link to download firefox 3.5 ?  modifying the deb repository isn't working because I get key errors
[17:47] <jethro> cellofellwo sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[17:47] <cellofellow> jethro: that'll work
[17:47] <jethro> cellofellow sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[17:47] <lstarnes> fosa: what repository?
[17:47] <Quiznos> michalxo IMO restart DE
[17:48] <michalxo> DE?
[17:48] <Quiznos> desktop environ
[17:48] <michalxo> hm, ok
[17:48] <jethro> cellofellow that is 321 megabytes is that the correct file?
[17:48] <fosa> lstarnes, http://webupd8.blogspot.com/2009/06/firefox-35-rc-1-ubuntu-repository-deb.html this guide but intrepid instead of jaunty
[17:48] <need_help> hello i did a script of identify, i want to use it when ubuntu boot using CLI require login and password , i want to use the script which use for identify before the login and password or after the login and password! for more Secure ! where i should add this script! which file ! thx
[17:48] <cellofellow> jethro: what is 321 megabytes?
[17:49] <jethro> cellofellow the file i am getting with apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[17:49] <Onyx> Is there another way to install proprietary drivers besides Jockey?  It never seems to complete installing what it's told to install
[17:49] <michalxo> Quiznos, not worked... my volume-applet is still "muted"
[17:49] <cellofellow> jethro: what else is it installing?
[17:49] <cellofellow> jethro: that's a meta-package that pulls a lot of stuff.
[17:49] <DarthPidgin> Well, dinner time
[17:49] <cellofellow> though 321MB seems high.
[17:49] <DarthPidgin> Bye
[17:50] <Quiznos> michalxo did you re-futz with all the "knobs"?
[17:50] <jethro> cellofellow which one should i install? there are about 100 or so files
[17:50] <babyshambles> fosa : download firefox, extract, open main menu & add it to internet section.
[17:50] <michalxo> Quiznos, HW is fine, everything worked, but after upgrading my soundcard is not listed anymore.. 8.04 -> 8.10
[17:50] <lstarnes> fosa: it looks like the instructions on that page should work
[17:50] <cellofellow> jethro: if you've got mplayer it's probably ok, you don't need it. I'm honestly flumoxed and not sure what's wrong.
[17:50] <jethro> cellofellow it says "Need to get 128MB of archives." s
[17:51] <Quiznos> michalxo ls(pci|usb) as apropriate to see what linux knows
[17:51] <jethro> bummer
[17:51] <lstarnes> fosa: I am also using the ubuntu-mozilla-daily PPA for daily builds of firefox 3.5
[17:51] <fosa> lstarnes, i get this: http://pastebin.com/md99a61
[17:51] <cellofellow> jethro: which includes... oh, yeah, includes nvidia and ati drivers, java vm, codecs, a few other things.
[17:51] <om26er> please help
[17:51] <cellofellow> jethro: if you want all that then install, if not then pick and choose various codec packages.
[17:51] <om26er> failed to initialize HAL
[17:52] <om26er> nothing works
[17:52] <lstarnes> om26er: what gives you that error?
[17:52] <michalxo> Quiznos, http://pastebin.ca/1511219
[17:52] <nsgn> argh. where on the filesystem is my smb share mounted when i mount it via ubuntu's gui?
[17:52] <om26er> lstarnes: when I start
[17:52] <jethro> cellofellow i have an ati x1200 and i cant turn the driver on for it because suspend will freeze. do you think that not having the driver is what is causing my avi problem?
[17:52] <lstarnes> om26er: is that from windows or from ubuntu?
 Using Linux with BootCamp can damage the motherboard of a Mac machine
[17:52] <om26er> lstarnes: no keyboard no mouse
[17:52] <om26er> lstarnes: ubuntu jaunty
[17:52] <cellofellow> jethro: it's giving x11 errors so it's probably the video driver, not the video player.
[17:53] <Quiznos> michalxo review dmesg for similar errors that you pasted
[17:53] <om26er> any safe mode??
[17:53] <om26er> lstarnes: is there any safe mode
[17:53] <lstarnes> om26er: there is a recovery mode option in grub
[17:53] <michalxo> Quiznos, wanna see /var/log messages too? (tail)
[17:53] <jethro> cellofellow is it possible to make it so my system doesnt freeze when i return from suspend mode while i have my video drivers enabled?
[17:53] <Quiznos> michalxo w.e. is relevent only
[17:53] <om26er> lstarnes: anything like a shell
[17:54] <lstarnes> om26er: that does go to a shell
[17:54] <om26er> lstarnes: failed to initialize HAl
[17:54] <Onyx> Is there another way to install proprietary drivers besides Jockey?  It never seems to complete installing what it's told to install
[17:54] <cellofellow> jethro: that's generally a problem with the the proprietary nature of the drivers.
[17:54] <lstarnes> om26er: does that also come from booting into recovery mode?
[17:54] <om26er> lstarnes: no
[17:54] <jethro> cellofellow is there an alternative driver?
[17:54] <fosa> lstarnes, looks like the key failure was due to open office packages
[17:54] <om26er> lstarnes: which menu should I go in recovery mode
[17:54] <michalxo> Quiznos, [ 3374.931169] [fglrx:irqmgr_install_interrupt_handler] *ERROR* unable to install interrupt handler (is it sound or video?)
[17:55] <fosa> now i just get: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/tcarrez/ubuntu/dists/intrepid/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz
[17:55] <nsgn> what i read about mounting a smb share from the command line seems to actually put it in /mnt. doing so from ubuntu's gui doesnt seem to
[17:55] <cellofellow> jethro: there's two or three drivers for ATI graphics cards. I'm not entirely sure on the details of that cause I don't have an ATI system.
[17:55] <lstarnes> om26er: in ubuntu's recovery mode, not windows's
[17:55] <nsgn> so where the heck does it mount?
[17:55] <om26er> lstarnes: I know
[17:55] <lstarnes> om26er: ubuntu's recovery mode loads to a shell by defaultt
[17:55] <Evet> How can I calculate how many shared hosting accounts my server afford?
[17:55] <Quiznos> michalxo that's fgl tring to do its setup, cant connect irq-manager to something
[17:55] <mbeierl> So, no one where knows where to go for help with gvfs and fuse?
[17:55] <Quiznos> mbeierl ##linux
[17:55] <Quiznos> tell em sammich sent ya
[17:56] <SantaClause> lol
[17:56] <Alaric`> localtime(time()), folks ...   got a fan problem on an Inspiron 4100 running kubuntu 9.04 I hope someone can help with.
[17:56] <Quiznos> this is a EasierRoom
[17:56] <michalxo> Quiznos, no other sign of PA / alsa in dmesg.. only this reapting many times [ 3474.627050] ppdev0: registered pardevice [ 3474.674976] ppdev0: unregistered pardevice [ 3475.804411] ppdev0: registered pardevice
[17:56] <porter1> Anyone know if it's possible to edit grub configs to have an option to boot windows from a hard drive that is newly attached?
[17:56] <squiggie> Hey guys, I'm wondering if someone can help me troubleshoot a Jaunty frreeze problem. I've spent that last 5 days on the forums and internet looking for solutions and I cannot figure out what the issues is. I've upgrade my kernel a few times and now I'm on 2.6.30. The only thing that has been congruent throughout the process is the last log in the message logs are tsc clocksource unstable
[17:57] <Quiznos> michalxo ok;  tell me again the first problem that led to this mess?
[17:57] <fosa> how do i install firefox ffrom tar.bz2?
[17:57] <lstarnes> om26er: there should be an option in the grub menu that looks like "Ubuntu 9.04, kernel 2.6.28-14-generic (recovery mode)"
[17:57] <Quiznos> porter1 yea, ##Linux
[17:57] <lstarnes> fosa: did you try using the PPA for it first?
[17:57] <porter1> Quiznos, hrm. Tougher crowd there. Oh well :P
[17:57] <AJC_Z0> fosa: Why are you trying to do so?
[17:57] <fosa> lstarnes, yes it's not finding the package
[17:58] <rww> !ff35 | fosa
[17:58] <Quiznos> porter1 more mental energy needed, mmmmm.
[17:58] <Alaric`> capsule summary:  The cooling fans on the notebook never start, so the laptop overheats.  I can solve *this* problem by loading the i8k module, and can then control the fans either manually with i8kctl or automatically with i8kmon.  BUT:  As soon as I load i8k.ko, it disables the keyboard and trackpad.
[17:58] <fosa> AJC_Z0, W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/tcarrez/ubuntu/dists/intrepid/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz  404 Not Found
[17:58] <lstarnes> fosa: it should be firefox-3.5
[17:58] <jipsy> how can i downlaod a background?
[17:58] <mbeierl> Quiznos: sorry... is there some special etiquette to ##linux?  Nothing seems to be happening there...
[17:58] <Quiznos> michalxo dlopen from libc; setrlimit is kernel;
[17:58] <Alaric`> Has anyone else run across this problem and know of a solution?
[17:58] <Quiznos> mbeierl i know some know grub there
[17:58] <michalxo> Quiznos, I was upgrading 8.04 -> 8.10  and always had problem with that soundcard in linux...
[17:58] <Quiznos> mbeierl spread the wealth of questions around
[17:59] <AJC_Z0> I removed all firefox packages and installed firefox-3.5 and all dependencies, which installed firefox-3.0 and firefox which linked to firefox-3.0. This was esily fixed be symlinking to 3.5, but did I miss something?
[17:59] <mbeierl> Quiznos: I am really sorry, but I am not following what you are trying to say at all :(
[17:59] <Quiznos> michalxo ok; peek at proc/interrupts for strangeness
[17:59] <Quiznos> mbeierl that's ok
[17:59] <AJC_Z0> fosa: What did you do to get that error?
[17:59] <ctmjr> jipsy: find the background you like then right click it save image as
[17:59] <fosa> how do you build from tarball?  isn't it just like make and make configure?
[18:00] <lstarnes> fosa: no
[18:00] <fosa> AJC_Z0, sudo apt-get install firefox-3.5
[18:00] <cellofellow> fosa: ./configure; make; make install
[18:00] <lstarnes> fosa: there's usually an INSTALL or README file in there with instructions
[18:00] <Quiznos> michalxo ok nuttin speeshul there
[18:00] <squiggie> Hey guys, I'm wondering if someone can help me troubleshoot a Jaunty frreeze problem. I've spent that last 5 days on the forums and internet looking for solutions and I cannot figure out what the issues is. I've upgrade my kernel a few times and now I'm on 2.6.30. The only thing that has been congruent throughout the process is the last log in the message logs are tsc clocksource unstable
[18:00] <jipsy> yeah but still my desktop background is dark!!!i can only see the screws inside my cube
[18:00] <fosa> lstarnes, the readme file was empty, thanks for the tip about install file
[18:00] <mbeierl> Quiznos: well, either way, I'm having no luck on getting info on gvfs-mount and fuse there either, so it's back to the drawing board.  Thanks anyway.
[18:00] <fosa> cellofellow, thanks
[18:00] <AJC_Z0> fosa: Maybe your chosen software repo had a problem. Try another
[18:00] <michalxo> Quiznos, are they my guys?
[18:01] <Quiznos> mbeierl k;yw
[18:01] <lstarnes> fosa: for the pre-built tarball of firefox, it's already compiled and can be run from its own directory
[18:01] <fosa> AJC_Z0, i'm following this guide: http://webupd8.blogspot.com/2009/06/firefox-35-rc-1-ubuntu-repository-deb.html
[18:01] <Quiznos> michalxo huh?
[18:01] <AJC_Z0> fosa: What are you following a guide? see the ubottu advice
[18:01] <michalxo> Quiznos,  ahaa nothing special :D proceed pls :)
[18:01] <Quiznos> heh ok
[18:01] <AJC_Z0> I just installed 3.5 a few minutes ago
[18:02] <Quiznos> michalxo what happened before the dlopen msg was posted? you doing (dist-activty | kernel stuff |anything)?
[18:03] <AJC_Z0> http://www.bash.org/?895141
[18:03] <Quiznos> michalxo lib-stuff?
[18:03] <need_help> hey need help by mistake i did chmod 644 -R / (using root), is there anything i can do because trying to re-do chmod give me permission denied!
[18:03] <Pici> need_help: No. Reinstall.
[18:03] <Quiznos> need_help wait
[18:04] <michalxo> Quiznos, I have followed one tutorial on ubuforums how to resolve PA problems... but only added PA PPA repos for intrepid and upgraded .. I think.. I'll try to find it again
[18:04] <Quiznos> need_help chmod 755 bin lib boot sbin tmp opt
[18:04] <need_help> Quiznos -bash: /bin/chmod: Permission denied
[18:04] <Quiznos> need_help then continue into var, usr, opt until you're done; then do the executuables files with 755
[18:04] <Quiznos> chmod +x /bin /bin/chmod
[18:05] <Quiznos> michalxo sorry; expand "PA"
[18:05] <sMouK> hi
[18:05] <sMouK> help please
[18:05] <michalxo> Quiznos, pulseaudio
[18:05] <Quiznos> ok
[18:05] <Quiznos> michalxo i suspect lib problem
[18:05] <sMouK> how to install MO2007 in ubuntu ?
[18:05] <Quiznos> michalxo libc prob
[18:05] <need_help> Quiznos still bash: /bin/chmod: Permission denied
[18:05] <Quiznos> need_help boot a live-cd/dvd, fix.
[18:05] <lstarnes> sMouK: microsoft office?
[18:06] <sMouK> yeah
[18:06] <need_help> Quiznos ya right thx
[18:06] <michalxo> Quiznos, well... I have here some "workarounds" for alsa, when PA wasn't in ubuntu...
[18:06] <Quiznos> yw
[18:06] <Quiznos> ok
[18:06] <Darken87> It worked, but I think my hard drive is bad in spots
[18:07] <michalxo> Quiznos, but any additional help how to resolve this problem will be REALLY appreciated
[18:07] <Darken87> :-D
[18:07] <Quiznos> michalxo tryin bro
[18:07] <michalxo> Quiznos, thank you
[18:07] <Quiznos> michalxo grep dlopen /var/log/* | sort| uniq |less
[18:07] <sMouK> what lib I need for install this app
[18:07] <sMouK> ?
[18:07] <lstarnes> sMouK: wine
[18:07] <sMouK> it's all ?
[18:07] <Quiznos> michalxo look for strangeness WRT libc
[18:08] <foundry87> How can I stop the notifications for new songs in Rhythmbox at the top right of my screen?
[18:08] <lstarnes> sMouK: you can't install microsoft office directly in ubuntu
[18:08] <abra> sMouK, Use OpenOffice ^)
[18:08] <lstarnes> sMouK: but you can install it in wine, which runs in ubuntu
[18:08] <sMouK> y I know
[18:08] <sMouK> need emulated
[18:08] <sMouK> but
[18:08] <Quiznos> michalxo same app?
[18:08] <sMouK> I can run the install
[18:09] <michalxo> Quiznos, I haven't tried any app so far, cause no sound there.. :-/  what is WRT libc (library?)
[18:09] <sMouK> but not finish
[18:09] <AJC_Z0> sMouK: please do not use the the return key for punctuation
[18:09] <thehit4hire> Ok I have absolutley no sound with ubuntu. I have searched online but I still cant figure it out?
[18:09] <Quiznos> michalxo wrt=with regard to; libc, gnulibc, libc.so
[18:09] <michalxo> aha
[18:09] <sMouK> ok thx AJC_Z0 sorry
[18:09] <Quiznos> michalxo dlopen is part of libc
[18:10] <thehit4hire> Ok I have absolutley no sound with ubuntu and Realtek ACL250. I have searched online but I still cant figure it out?
[18:10] <michalxo> Quiznos, where should I look for it? (that messages/conflicts)
[18:10] <Quiznos> michalxo var/log
[18:10] <Quiznos> michalxo dlopen
[18:11] <tehdave> I'm using 8.04 and I need to connect to a VPN at my workplace. Is there any way to do it without going back to the regular Network Manager applet? (I use WICD right now, since the last time I used the network applet it wasn't working properly for me)
[18:11] <sMouK> somebody speak spanish ?
[18:11] <Pr0Br0> hmmm i really don't want to reinstall windows :/ i'm sitting here looking at a partition that is 90gb with all my files on it, is there any way to just boot it?
[18:11] <Pr0Br0> y yo hablo un poco espanol
[18:12] <lstarnes> !es | sMouK
[18:12] <sMouK> gracias =)
[18:12] <sMouK> thanks
[18:12] <jet_> can you copy music files from a virtual machine harddisk to a file for use in ubuntu
[18:12] <Quiznos> Pr0Br0 are there boot files on it?
[18:12] <Pr0Br0> i'm pretty sure, all i did was delete a blank partition and resize the c drive to fill that blank space
[18:12] <Pr0Br0> all the files should be on there
[18:12] <Quiznos> michalxo hmm, i think you munged the lib somehow
[18:13] <Quiznos> michalxo any other libc probs you've notices?
[18:13] <michalxo> not yet... freshly upgraded from 8.04 few minutes ago
[18:13] <Quiznos> michalxo and PA wont start?
[18:13] <michalxo> nope
[18:13] <Quiznos> michalxo did you restart X?
[18:13] <michalxo> yes
[18:13] <Quiznos> wow
[18:13] <danny> hi togheter
[18:13] <michalxo> rebooted too.. :-/
[18:14] <michalxo> I always had problem with this card
[18:14] <danny> is someone from germany?
[18:14] <Quiznos> michalxo did you google the forums?
[18:14] <michalxo> yeah.. nothing extra :(
[18:14] <Quiznos> k
[18:14] <michalxo> Quiznos, I was on #PA and they sent me here :)
[18:14] <jet_> i need some help with virtual box
[18:15] <Quiznos> ok
[18:15] <ProfOak> jet_: Just ask your question
[18:15] <Pr0Br0> god this is so dumb computers are so dumb
[18:15] <danny> is someone from germany who can answer some quetions
[18:15] <ikonia> danny: try #ubuntu-de
[18:15] <ohir> !de | danny
[18:15] <michalxo> Quiznos, my previous problem before "upgrading" PAudio was this http://pastebin.ca/1511162
[18:15] <tehdave> alright...better question: does the current version of the builtin Network Manager (for 8.04) properly support WPA2?
[18:15] <jueves> how do I change the server, need to get to euIRC
[18:16] <jueves> pls
[18:16] <lstarnes> jueves: /server
[18:16] <jueves> where do I type it...in here?
[18:16] <Quiznos> michalxo did you do as he sugged?
[18:16] <jueves> excuse my ignorance :#(
[18:16] <lstarnes> jueves: the full syntax is /server insert.server.name.here
[18:16] <michalxo> I don't have any .default.pa file
[18:16] <lstarnes> jueves: type it anywhere in your client
[18:16] <jet_> i am trying to get all my music off my zune and have it copyed into the ubuntu music folder, but my mp3 player and jumpdriver are both greyed out under usb devices and wont come up on the vm
[18:17] <Quiznos> michalxo make one
[18:17] <lstarnes> jueves: although you might want to make a new tab first using ctrl+t then type in there
[18:17] <scunizi> Networking noob here.. will 192.168.0.100 on a subnet of 255.255.255.0 interfear with 192.168.0.100 on a different subnet?
[18:17] <michalxo> Quiznos, what fill into file? :-/
[18:18] <Quiznos> nothing at first
[18:18] <lstarnes> scunizi: if they're on the same LAN, yes
[18:18] <michalxo> Quiznos, restart X?
[18:18] <Quiznos> yes
[18:18] <michalxo> ok
[18:18] <Ardin> ok, i'm googling it now, but anyone know of a way to rename files, using the lines from a text file as the filename additions? like turning Dilbert.1x01.avi into Dilbert.1x01.The Name.avi
[18:18] <scunizi> lstarnes: thanks.. can you tell me basically why you'd want a different subnet within a lan?
[18:18] <jet_> so, im wondering if there is a way to find the windows xp misuc folder in ubuntu to copy or is that not really possible
[18:18] <ohir> scunizi: 192.168.0.x is the subnet
[18:19] <ohir> scunizi: you can NOT have two machines on same LAN with identical adresses.
[18:19] <scunizi> ohir: I should say subnet mask
[18:19] <ProfOak> jet_: Did you install ubuntu inside of windows, or did you restart with a CD in your drive?
[18:19] <michalxo> Quiznos, back
[18:19] <Quiznos> .
[18:19] <jet_> ubuntu was installed first
[18:19] <michalxo> :(
[18:20] <ohir> scunizi: though its ok when person A has it in his home and person B has same in her home
[18:20] <lstarnes> scunizi: a subnet mask of 255.255.255.0 with a network of 192.168.0.0 covers 192.168.0.0 through 192.168.0.255
[18:20] <ProfOak> jet_:Then you should be able to open your windows partition from the "Places" menu
[18:20] <jet_> xp is on a virtual machine im using PUEL virtual box
[18:20] <ProfOak> Oh, virtual box
[18:20] <jet_> hah
[18:20] <jet_> any idea why a usb drive would be greyed out in virtual box>
[18:20] <scunizi> ohir: lstarnes I guess I'm asking why you'd want some machines on a subnet mask of 255.255.255.0 and others on 255.255.0.0
[18:21] <ohir> scunizi: 255.255.255.0 is _within_ 255.255.0.0 scope
[18:21] <squiggie> I'm wondering if someone can help me troubleshoot a Jaunty frreeze problem. I've spent that last 5 days on the forums and internet looking for solutions and I cannot figure out what the issues is. I've upgrade my kernel a few times and now I'm on 2.6.30. The only thing that has been congruent throughout the process is the last log in the message logs are tsc clocksource unstable
[18:21] <lstarnes> scunizi: a subnet mask of 255.255.255.0 is equivalent to 192.168.0.* while 255.255.0.0 is 192.168.*.*
[18:21] <Pici> jet_: USB is not supported in the open source edition of vbox that is in the Ubuntu repositories.
[18:22] <jet_> Pici: im using PUEL vbox
[18:22] <Ahadiel> jet_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox/USB
[18:22] <ohir> scunizi: so no, you cannot have two machines adressed 192.168.0.100 on same LAN
[18:22] <Pici> jet_: Then ask in #vbox
[18:22] <michalxo> Quiznos, ask on #pulseaudio for help?
[18:22] <lstarnes> scunizi: another way to notate it is using CIDR
[18:22] <jet_> Pici: thanks
[18:22] <scunizi> lstarnes: so with the second subnet mask I could effectively do an address range of 192.168.1.1-255 ?
[18:23] <Quiznos> michalxo yea. i dont know what the fix is for this.
[18:23] <lstarnes> scunizi: 255.255.0.0?
[18:23] <Quiznos> i'm stumpted
[18:23] <michalxo> ok Quiznos thank you for your time anyway ;) enjoy rest of day ;)
[18:23] <Quiznos> michalxo ##Linux ##Linux-coders (if awake)
[18:23] <Quiznos> michalxo you too ty
[18:24] <wrektjet> hey. im running update manager and i got, for menu.lst, that the locally modified version can be updated. but i made changes regarding my hardware in the file, so what option is best to select?
[18:24] <nicklas_> yo
[18:24] <wildc4rd> evening all
[18:24] <wrektjet> should i merge/keep local/switch etc
[18:24] <ohir> scunizi: yes. But you should better stay with 255.255.255.0 as most examples of networking setup uses network C (/24 in CDIR notation)
[18:24] <Quiznos> well this was exciting; i'll be bok
[18:24] <scunizi> lstarnes: yes.. I have a voip server and phone system with a subnet mask of 255.255.0.0 and was trying to figure out if I can change it to 255.255.255.0 to make it easier to access the backend admin functions via browser thereby eliminating the need to change the subnet mask in the networking to access it.
[18:25] <ohir> scunizi: if you want to "separate" networks on same LAN you use 192.168.0/24 192.168.1/24
[18:25] <scunizi> networking of the pc that is.
[18:25] <lstarnes> scunizi: can you access it without changing the subnet mask?
[18:25] <scunizi> lstarnes: no
[18:27] <ohir> scunizi: you also need to set up broadcast address if you change the mask. If you can not figure voip appliance setup, you may resort to change mask within your home network accordingly.
[18:27] <lstarnes> scunizi: is the voip server on the same LAN as your current system?
[18:27] <scunizi> lstarnes: yes
[18:27] <sammy> hello
[18:29] <Pr0Br0> hey does gparted work on a live cd?
[18:29] <Pr0Br0> like on the ubuntu live cd?
[18:30] <Pr0Br0> cause don't you have to reboot to do all the partitioning and stuff?
[18:30] <scunizi> ohir: the device has it's own gateway address that defaults at 192.168.1.*
[18:30] <Pici> Pr0Br0: You can onyl partition the drives while they are not mounted, so no, you don't need to reboot to finish the paritioning.
[18:30] <ProfOak> Pr0Br0: Yes
[18:30] <AaronT1251> Pr0Br0: I think gparted has its own live cd
[18:31] <jmoran> join #sf-eng
[18:31] <Pr0Br0> hmm yeah i might have to download that
[18:31] <b0b> irc.onlinegamesnet.net
[18:31] <tehdave> does the current version of Network Manager work with WPA2 wireless?
[18:31] <Pici> Pr0Br0: Its also on the Ubuntu LiveCD, so you don't need to download the gparted livecd.
[18:31] <Pr0Br0> yeah i'm using the ubuntu live cd
[18:32] <tvuser> hi, I broke my sound, can someone help me fix it?
[18:32] <leandro> br?
[18:32] <leandro> #ubuntu-br
[18:33] <Pr0Br0> okay, i am backing up a 90gb partition on a 500gb external drive....if i resize the external harddrive partition with all of my very important files on it to 350 gb, then copy paste the 90 gb partition to fill the space will it fuck up my files on the external drive?
[18:34] <fosa> what is "main menu" ?
[18:34] <marvinp> 3~
[18:34] <emre_> Hi folks, I want to learn about being an ubuntu package maintainer for a specific package. Can someone point me a document on where to start?
[18:34] <Pici> Pr0Br0: Please mind your language.
[18:34] <Pr0Br0> oh sorry
[18:34] <Pici> emre_: The packaging guide is located here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide
[18:35] <emre_> Pici: thanks.
[18:35] <russell__> is it possible to install ubuntu on xp ntft partition?
[18:35] <Pici> emre_: Also #ubuntu-motu
[18:35] <emre_> Pici: tnx for that too :)
[18:36] <russell__> does anyone know if I can intall ubuntu on windows ntfs?
[18:36] <AaronT1251> russel_: I think there is a program called wubi that can do that, google it
[18:36] <russell__> I ask this because my laptop does not have cdrom drive
[18:36] <Pr0Br0> will i even be able to browse a ntfs formatted partition through a usb connection?
[18:36] <russell__> is that wubi some kind of emulation?
[18:37] <AaronT1251> it runs the ubuntu system through a windows filesystem
[18:37] <ProfOak> Pr0Br0: You can use the wubi installer or, you can use unetbootin to make a bootable USB drive
[18:37] <russell__> thanks I'll look into that
[18:37] <AaronT1251> kk
[18:37] <ProfOak> russell__: You can use the wubi installer or, you can use unetbootin to make a bootable USB drive *
[18:38] <Pr0Br0> i don't need to boot i only need to browse for files
[18:38] <michalxo> guys, is there a way to put newer kernel into 8.10 than 2.6.27-14 via repos?
[18:38] <Preplexed> on my passwords that i have to put in to log on master password?  how do i change that?
[18:39] <mechtech> well...moment of truth...getting updates right now
[18:39] <AaronT1251> michalxo: i don't think you can
[18:40] <amon75> salve atutti
[18:40] <Pici> Pr0Br0: Yes, you can view ntfs drives from Ubuntu.
[18:40] <Hatsjoe> Does anyone know some good compiler/editor for VB projects?
[18:40] <Pici> !it | amon75
[18:40] <Pr0Br0> hmmm what about macos?
[18:43] <Pici> Pr0Br0: You *should* be okay.
[18:43] <YiamiYo> hi...can i have an old macintosh 8.6...can i install ubuntu on it??
[18:43] <YiamiYo> oops
[18:43] <YiamiYo> i have
[18:43] <YiamiYo> *
[18:43] <mechtech> ok...rebooting
[18:43] <Pici> !ppc | YiamiYo possibly
[18:43] <Jeruvy> !ppc | YiamiYo
[18:44] <mechtech> see you in a minute...I hope
[18:44] <patricius_> How can I make Ubuntu automatically detect a new monitor being connected?
[18:44] <Jeruvy> patricius_: it should auto detect it
[18:44] <BlueEagle> patricius_: Is it not detected?
[18:44] <encino> hi
[18:44] <encino> anyone here free to help me
[18:45] <Spreadsheet> Hi
[18:45] <patricius_> Jeruvy: I may have phrased my question wrongly. Let me give an example.
[18:45] <encino> i wan ask about this ubuntu
[18:45] <Spreadsheet> I'm missing Python.h
[18:45] <lstarnes> encino: just ask your question
[18:45] <BlueEagle> patricius_: ...or do you want it automatically enabled?
[18:45] <encino> is it able to link
[18:45] <Spreadsheet> How do I get that?
[18:45] <lstarnes> Spreadsheet: install python-dev
[18:45] <Spreadsheet> lstarnes: Thanks
[18:45] <encino> some of my lan network
[18:45] <patricius_> BlueEagle: Yeah. But also to switch automatically switch to my laptop's display when I disconnect my monitor.
[18:45] <BlueEagle> encino: If you install tools to compile source code you also install a linker in most cases, yes.
[18:46] <b0b> spricht wer deutsch -.-
[18:46] <BlueEagle> !de | b0b
[18:46] <encino> blueeagle : which way is the best way to do it
[18:46] <majnoon> wow got my laptop to do xdmcp connect to my desktop and can run my tvcard and DISPLAY it on laptop :)
[18:46] <b0b> ah ok
[18:47] <spO> hwo do you convert ext3 fs files to ntfs?
[18:47] <BlueEagle> encino: I'm sorry. I thought you were done asking the question after you asked if it could link. Apperantly it was a completely different kind of linking you were talking about. If you had not done !enter I wouldn't have to have made such a mistake. As for linking a network I am assuming that you want to share an internet connection, is that correct?
[18:47] <spO> and can you put ntfs files on ext3 fs?
[18:47] <patricius_> Jeruvy: Can I make such that the display automatically switches to my laptop, when i disconnect my external monitor?
[18:48] <ProfOak> spO: ext is not a file, it's a file system. There are a few programs you can use that will let you view linux files on your windows partition.
[18:48] <encino> no
[18:48] <patricius_> Jeruvy: And to the monitor's native resolution
[18:48] <lstarnes> spO: you don't need to do any special conversion for files originally made on one filesystem to be moved to another
[18:48] <BlueEagle> encino: Then what are you attempting to do? Set up a VPN tunnel between two networks?
[18:48] <encino> ya this is the one
[18:49] <encino> but not two networks
[18:49] <BlueEagle> !enter
[18:49] <encino> i got 4 place
[18:49] <mechtech> ok...updated and rebooted...everything seems fine
[18:49] <owen1_> how to sync the clock from a terminal based ubuntu?
[18:49] <YiamiYo> can anyone plz tell me a linux version good for my 8.6 macintosh?
[18:50] <spO> how do you convert or move ext3 fs files to a ntfs fs?
[18:50] <encino> i got 4 network need to be linkup on lan network
[18:50] <encino> which is the best way
[18:50] <encino> if i use ubuntu will it work
[18:51] <Jeruvy> patricius_: I'm not that familiar with using secondary displays on a lappy, but my thinking is that it should be using both displays if they are detected and configured.  Depending if your doing twinview or separate X sessions would control that..but I may not be the best to answer that question :)
[18:51] <BlueEagle> yiamiyo: 2.6.27
[18:51] <balaji> Hi
[18:51] <AaronT1251> hi
[18:51] <YiamiYo> BlueEagle, ty
[18:51] <encino> blueeagle : can help me out ?
[18:51] <AaronT1251> sp0: you don't need to convert files, you can just move them normally
[18:52] <urthmover> How do I connect a USB drive with an HFS filesystem to jaunty64?
[18:52] <SVisor> encino: Im not sure what you attempt to do.. Bu if you just want to crate an LAN with 4 computer. Get a  cheap switch and connect your computers to it.
[18:52] <Dimitree> Can i install Ubuntu Studio on top of my 9.04 ubuntu ? Will that change my programs and customd rivers for DVB card i have installed ? Is it easy to do ?
[18:52] <sajro> Hey, does anyone know how to fix the problem where Facebook tells you to upgrade your Flash version to watch videos? Do you have to manually install the .deb and will that conflict or dupe when the update comes around?
[18:52] <encino> SVisor: of i think you get wrong
[18:53] <encino> i wan to link 4 places network
[18:53] <encino> including me if i fly around
[18:53] <balaji> #rails
[18:53] <BlueEagle> encino: Do you intend to have servers running permanently at the four locations?
[18:53] <encino> still can link up to home and office
[18:53] <encino> ya
[18:53] <YiamiYo> will be able to resize it's current partition so i don't lose my old os?
[18:53] <patricius_> Jeruvy: I just tried out my laptops Fn-F7 sequence.... it seems to do what I want :) Thanks for your help though.
[18:53] <encino> my friend tell me i need 5 servers or more
[18:54] <encino> each place need to hookup with one server and modem
[18:54] <encino> then can start up my virtual lan
[18:55] <ctmjr> owen1_: you trying to set the clock from command line?
[18:55] <encino> my friend say can try using openvpn
[18:55] <BlueEagle> encino: Then linux does have the tools you need. However you would most probably want to choose a primary site and set up a VPN connection to each of the three other sites from there and have that location route the packets. Alternately you could set up VPN-tunnels between all sites (every site has three tunnels). It depends on how much bandwidth is availible at each site and how your
[18:55] <urthmover> How do I identify which /dev/?  my newly connected USB external hard drive is connected to?
[18:55] <encino> but he say need to have fix ip
[18:55] <BlueEagle> ping-requirements are.
[18:56] <BlueEagle> !enter | encino
[18:56] <pepperjack> urthmover: dmesg| tail
[18:56] <urthmover> pepperjack: thanks trying that now
[18:56] <mechtech> can you guys see my posts?
[18:57] <planetary> can anyone help me with electric sheep? is the one from the repos good?
[18:57] <pepperjack> mechtech: yes :)
[18:57] <mechtech> thanks pepperjack =)
[18:57] <Goldiadkin> Hi! I'm having some trouble with jdownloader. I can't open it from the console, it only opens from desktop rightclicking and selecting "open with java"
[18:57] <dreamborn> what is the difference between the different kernels that i'm presented with at my boot manager?
[18:57] <encino> ubottu sorry i dont know
[18:58] <qs> Hello, I'm trying to set up a GRE tunnel to get through a restrictive firewall; do I need to create a tunnel at both endpoints to get traffic through?
[18:58] <AaronT1251> dreamborn: they are just older kernels than the one you are using now
[18:58] <pepperjack> dreamborn: usually top to bottom most recent. any time there is an update the new kernel should be top one
[18:58] <encino> blueeagle : do you know how i can get it done
[18:58] <spO> why is the iso for ubuntu , the computer platform is labeled amd64  ..... as in AMD the company?
[18:58] <dreamborn> ok so i should always use the most recent?
[18:58] <Caue> dreamborn: i believe they're left there in case you have troubles with new updates.
[18:58] <AaronT1251> dreamborn: yes
[18:58] <pepperjack> spO: no its 32 bit (386) and 64 bit (amd64)
[18:58] <dreamborn> ok thanks all
[18:58] <BlueEagle> encino: It depends. Do you want a tunnel between all sites or do you want one site to act as a central hub?
[18:59] <mechtech> qs: do you have access to the firewall?  And is it a hardware or software firewall?
[18:59] <lstarnes> spO: many people still use amd64 to refer to all 64-bit x86 processors, not just amd's
[18:59] <spO> where did the amd in amd64 come from?
[18:59] <BlueEagle> encino: Also, how familiar are you with subnets and routing?
[18:59] <spO> cause amd is the first one to majoritly commercialize 64 bit processors?
[18:59] <YiamiYo> BlueEagle, confused...can you plz give me a link to download a lightweight server version for my macintosh?
[18:59] <qs> mechtech: I don't have access to the firewall, and I don't have access to it. But I believe I can pass GRE traffic across it (someone I know has done it before)
[19:00] <ctmjr> spO: yes in a nutshell
[19:00] <encino> blueeagle i think between tunnel will be good
[19:00] <lstarnes> spO: essentially, yes
[19:00] <qs> mechtech: I do have access to a machine on either side however, and I want to pass traffic from one to the other.
[19:00] <LexLuth0r> Any good XDCCBrowser software for Xchat or another client
[19:00] <mechtech> qs: ok...lemme research...brb
[19:01] <qs> mechtech: thanks
[19:01] <lstarnes> spO: x86-64 and x86-64 are often used instead to refer to 64-bit x86 processors
[19:01] <spO> what  is the program called XM free or something that is supposed to be like remote desktop manager intead of an vnc?
[19:01] <encino> if using one central hub better or all running tunnel better ?
[19:02] <mechtech> qs: can you ping the second machine?
[19:02] <dewdude> lstarnes, don't you mean x86-64, amd64 and intel 64 are used to refer to 64-bit x86?
[19:02] <ExAstris> Hi all. How can I upgrade Firefox to version 3.5.1 with the correct branding, as it is released now? Additionally, can anyone give me the name of a good GUI download manager, instead of the omnipotent WGET
[19:02] <qs> mechtech: no, the firewall drops ping packets (but I can ssh, etc)
[19:02] <mechtech> qs: ok
[19:02] <lstarnes> dewdude: I already covered amd64,  intel 64 is used more often to refer to intel's 64 bit processors specifically
[19:02] <pepperjack> ExAstris: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion
[19:03] <AaronT1251> ExAstris: Try ubuntuzilla
[19:03] <mechtech> qs: see here: http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/29959
[19:03] <ExAstris> thank you, pepperjack.
[19:03] <ExAstris> and aaron
[19:03] <mechtech> qs: that should do it
[19:03] <pepperjack> ExAstris: np. honestly though i normally just download firefox from the mozilla website to my home directory and leave the system version at whatever
[19:03] <Goldiadkin> Hi! I'm having some trouble with jdownloader. I can't open it from the console, it only opens from desktop rightclicking and selecting "open with java", any ideas?
[19:03] <BlueEagle> encino: What you need to do is to define a subnet for each site. Connect a VPN tunnel between each of the sites. Set up routing so that your server knows which site you are attempting to access. Set up measures to prevent packets from routing in circles (routing cost tables for instance). That should just about cover it. Well unless you need security that is. In such case you'll need to set up
[19:04] <BlueEagle> some form of encryption on the tunnels. That about covers it I guess.
[19:04] <archman> hello again
[19:04] <archman> :)
[19:04] <Caue> i wonder... and please, no relative answers here... if i want a simple gui *nix file server to a network filled with windows, mac and eventually ubuntu, what would be my best bet? i was thinking on getting an old mac machine and just tweak it up. i'm now trying super os (ubuntu) and tweaking it up just a little bit and using reconstructor... but what about other nix flavors? or maybe a box that's ready for this? i feel often almost as frustrate
[19:04] <qs> mechtech: wouldn't i need a cisco router for that...?
[19:04] <dewdude> lstarnes, i'm going by industry terms... Intel 64 is what they're calling their implementation of amd64, perhaps you're thinking of IA-64 that they used for Itanium?
[19:05] <pepperjack> Caue: personally i like a linux box with just X or maybe fluxbox running that i can vnc to
[19:05] <lstarnes> dewdude: I thought it was EM64T
[19:05] <mechtech> qs: seems that GRE is a cisco technology...assumed you were using their equipment...still, creating the interface at both ends would be essential
[19:05] <archman> my friend has ubuntu+vista dual boot, he wants to remove ubuntu, so it means he needs to restore his mbr first. is there a way to do it from linux? (cause he doesn't have vista setup cd)
[19:05] <Besogon> I must say, that GUI samba tool is th best tool for user. I've spent so much time to learn Samba but in vain... NFS is easer than Samba, but that require strongly the server
[19:05] <dewdude> maybe...but Intel's name for x68-64 is "Intel 64", leading to additional confusion
[19:05] <danirie> hi how can i use my ipod with ubutntu?
[19:05] <pepperjack> Caue: no monitor just ssh into it and run vncserver then use some vnc client to connect to it
[19:05] <Caue> pepperjack: yeah, vnc would be nice. but i still couldnt setup one except using a logged user.
[19:06] <dewdude> archman, he needs to use bcdedit from Vista to restore the MBR
[19:06] <encino> blueeagle thanx man
[19:06] <qs> mechtech: it's cisco originally, but the same thing can be done with the linux kernel rather than with their routers
[19:06] <planetary> electricsheep anyone??
[19:06] <Caue> although i'm ok on using ssh, it's not what i'd consider best.
[19:06] <BlueEagle> encino: What you may want to think about is to have one site just connect to two others and have any site act as a relay if neccessary. That would remove four links from the equation. However it all depends on the geographical location of the sites.
[19:07] <archman> dewdude, is it an app that is in vista by default? (he doesn't want to install any app)
[19:07] <encino> if i need in secure form need to setup a server that link to 3 other servers ? is there a website that teach all about this linking network
[19:07] <thiebaude> anyone have a link to where i can get the latest kernel?
[19:07] <dewdude> there's an app in Vista to do it, but it's confusing to use.
[19:07] <Caue> Besogon: what you mean? strongly the server?
[19:07] <Caue> lol, nvm
[19:07] <dewdude> he can also stick the vista CD in and hit "repair my computer"
[19:08] <th0r> thiebaude: synaptic?
[19:08] <qs> mechtech: thanks anyway :)
[19:08] <archman> dewdude, he has no cd
[19:08] <jimmy51_> i've got an integrated Intel GMA 950 graphics adapter.  i've read that ut2004 is supposed to play fine on lower settings, but it dogs along so bad it's unplayable.  are there any general ubuntu gaming performance tips out there anyone can point me at?
[19:08] <encino> blueeagle : at the moment im a bit blurr dont know how or which is good my friend say this is good http://nielsvz.com/2009/02/running-openvpn-on-ubuntu-810-server/
[19:08] <thiebaude> th0r, ok, thanks
[19:09] <KoolD> how do i know which application is associated to a port???
[19:09] <dewdude> hold on, let me look up how to do it from command lie
[19:09] <dewdude> line
[19:09] <mechtech> qs: ok...I think the usage would still remain the same though
[19:09] <pepperjack> jimmy51_: intel 3d atm in latest ubuntu can be problematic i have heard
[19:09] <sebsebseb> hi
[19:09] <mechtech> qs: lemme research some more
[19:09] <SuspectZero> hey guys. if i want the output of just wlan0 to show. how would i grep what iwconfig spits out?
[19:09] <mechtech> qs: brb
[19:09] <th0r> KoolD: it depends on how you configure the apps. The standard app/port relationships are online....google should return a ton of lists
[19:10] <qs> mechtech: ok, i seem to have now created a tunnel which loops back to myself...
[19:10] <jimmy51_> doh
[19:10] <AaronT1251> SuspectZero: iwconfig wlan0
[19:10] <encino> blueeagle : do you think openvpn is good to link up all my network
[19:10] <qs> mechtech: so when i connect to the tunnel ip, it's as if i'd typed 127.0.0.1...
[19:10] <AaronT1251> SuspectZero: no need to use grep
[19:10] <petllama> pptp
[19:10] <SuspectZero> AaronMT, right but lets say i dont know that the user has wlan0
[19:11] <dewdude> archman, apparently the bcdedit app in vista doesn't restore an MBR, you either need the Vista CD to fix it or download and install EasyBCD
[19:11] <archman> thanks, dewdude :)
[19:11] <BlueEagle> encino: Keep in mind that the setup there only sets up a tunnel between two points. You will need three tunnels at each site to interlink all four sites if you want optimal performance. That translates to a lot of pitfalls both with subnetting and routing.
[19:11] <SuspectZero> anyway to figure out wht extensions they use for their wireless?
[19:11] <Caue> pepperjack: but have you tried macos?
[19:11] <casey> i'm changing primssion of a folder and whats the comand for change it for all folders annd files in tha folder?
[19:11] <AaronMT> SuspectZero: Other Aaron
[19:11] <archman> dewdude, aah, he doesn't want to install anything. any other ideas?
[19:11] <SuspectZero> oops
[19:11] <AaronT1251> SuspectZero: you do an iwconfig first, to check what interfaces the user has got
[19:11] <SuspectZero> sorry
[19:11] <th0r> casey: chmod -R
[19:11] <petllama> casey: chmod -R
[19:11] <dewdude> archman, no. those are the only ways to do it.
[19:11] <casey> ok
[19:11] <Keiffer> I'll marry the first woman that uses Linux.
[19:11] <pepperjack> Caue: sorry i no nothing about Macs
[19:12] <pepperjack> no/know
[19:12] <dewdude> if he has a problem...he can get rid of ubuntu, but he'll have to go through grub to boot vista every time
[19:12] <Caue> pepperjack: you should, it's the best gui oriented *nix flavor, as expected
[19:12] <johnny5_> Keiffer She's mine no share
[19:12] <SuspectZero> AaronT1251, thanks for the help .i got it
[19:12] <AaronT1251> SuspectZero: np
[19:12] <jimmy51_> Keiffer: my wife uses linux
[19:12] <mechtech> qs: this looks good too: http://lartc.org/howto/lartc.tunnel.gre.html
[19:12] <archman> dewdude, he also wants to get rid of GRUB, unfortunately
[19:12] <Caue> pepperjack:  but it ain't opensource and therefore it gets very limited
[19:12] <Keiffer> johnny5_, who?
[19:12] <archman> tnx for the help
[19:12] <archman> :)
[19:12] <jimmy51_> Ubuntu NBR on her eeePC, and Kubuntu on her Atom 330 desktop
[19:13] <Caue> i mean...
[19:13] <BlueEagle> encino: Is this for a corporate network or is it to play games on lan?
[19:13] <mechtech> Keiffer: she's prolly pretty old by now :)
[19:13] <johnny5_> jimmy51_: My fiance :P and apparently his wife
[19:13] <Caue> it is kinda open
[19:13] <Rassa> Hello everyone!
[19:13] <dewdude> well, he needs to get a vista dvd or install easybcd. outside of that, i got nothing and i doubt anyone else here knows either. it's not like the old days of going fdisk /mbr, vista changed everything.
[19:13] <rumy> hi guys im very new to ubuntu nd im havn a prob
[19:13] <qs> mechtech: yeah, tried that as well but again no luck
[19:13] <Caue> anyway, gota go, thanks for answering pepperjack
[19:13] <Caue> cyaround
[19:13] <mechtech> qs: could be the firewall is the problem
[19:14] <archman> dewdude: thanks, man :)
[19:14] <AaronT1251> rumy: whats up?
[19:14] <dewdude> unless he uses BCDEdit, he *needs* a Vista CD. there is no way around it
[19:14] <mechtech> qs: btw...what kind of router are you using?
[19:14] <dewdude> he could set grub up to just boot vista with no menu, it'd look like it was gone. that's only if he's really deadset against installing one simple utility
[19:14] <johnny5_> Super grub disk
[19:14] <rumy> i cant get in2 synapic package manager
[19:14] <jimmy51_> linux is awesome for the wife... i haven't had to repair anything due to downloading cutsey mouse pointers or facebook message bombs since i installed it
[19:14] <encino> oh man still very blurr
[19:15] <pepperjack> rumy: are you running as the original user or is this a new user account you created?
[19:15] <qs> mechtech: yeah, i'm starting to wonder whether it's the firewall
[19:15] <AaronT1251> rumy: yeah go to: menu, system, administration, synaptic
[19:15] <encino> is there any website that teach us how to setup will be much simple for me to follow all the steps
[19:15] <johnny5_> dewdude: super grub disk
[19:15] <Rassa> how do I switch between windows in x-chat? I have two rooms up
[19:15] <qs> mechtech: i just did something and i couldn't connect to the remote server, suggests to me that *maybe* the firewall's dropping those packets
[19:15] <dewdude> will super grub disc restore a vista mbr? i've never used it.
[19:15] <mechtech> qs: that would make sense, after all, it's kinda what they're for...you know?
[19:15] <pepperjack> Rassa: you should see tabs along bottom of screen.
[19:15] <johnny5_> dewdude: yes
[19:16] <rumy> its says i hav 2 manually 'dpkg--confiuration-a' to correct the problem
[19:16] <Rassa> oh I'm blind.. Thanks pepperjack
[19:16] <planetary> i just installed firefox 3.5 though when i open it it says 3.0 in the about firefox
[19:16] <Bob_Dole> I'm looking for a way to install libopenal1 on Ubuntu 8.04, it doesn't appear to be available, anyone know where I can obtain a ppa or .deb of it?
[19:16] <th0r> there is a vista rescue iso online that I think will restore the mbr
[19:16] <qs> mechtech: yeah, true... probably best for me to have a word with my friend who got it to work and ask what he did
[19:16] <AaronT1251> rumy: run that command in a terminal as root
[19:16] <KoolD> thor: i googled the port(5110) it says prorat(a MS trojan) uses it.... and there are no standard application associated to the port... aren't there any commands to figure out the applications using it
[19:16] <lstarnes> rumy: open a terminal and type sudo dpkg --configure -a
[19:16] <Rassa> I'm on Linux, first time in 8 years
[19:16] <qs> mechtech: thanks for your advice anyway! :)
[19:16] <dewdude> all i know about the vista MBR is unless yo've got the right tools, you can't fix it.
[19:16] <rumy> but y wont it open properly?
[19:16] <Rassa> a lot has changed since those early redhat days
[19:17] <johnny5_> dewdude: but then you need that BCD to restore linux and Vista... that's how I did it. I have vista xp and ubuntu on my laptop
[19:17] <AaronT1251> rumy: there is a problem but it should be easy to sort out
[19:17] <rumy> hw du i sort it out?
[19:17] <Kremit> i just got a copy of ubuntu 9.04 in the mail, and i must say im really impressed
[19:17] <mechtech> qs: np=)
[19:17] <th0r> KoolD: none that I know of. you might google that trojan and see if there is anything you can learn about it...but on a linux box I doubt that a trojan is watching the port
[19:17] <Rassa> I'm compliling custom kernel option under ubuntu. When a new kernel comes out will the auto update overwrite my change?
[19:17] <AaronT1251> rumy: by running that command as root
[19:17] <Rassa> compiling*
[19:18] <stefg> !kernel | Rassa
[19:18] <Kremit> my old laptop is running gtk-decorator more smoothly that id ever thought possible JUST on the vesa driver
[19:18] <Kremit> thats pretty crazy
[19:18] <BlueEagle> dewdude: Windows vista can be chain loaded. If you want to restore the boot record that came with vista you will need to either have a backup of it or have Vista restore it. I could have provided you with a backup if it hadn't been that Microsoft believes that it is proprietary software and therefore disallows distribution of it.
[19:18] <KoolD> th0r: got it netstat -lp gives the pid/name. thanks anyways
[19:18] <rumy> nd den wat du i du?
[19:19] <AaronT1251> rumy: what does it say
[19:19] <planetary> ok nevermind its called somthing else?!
[19:19] <dewdude> BlueEagle, I'm aware of it, but archman is the one attempting to get rid of the vista loader
[19:19] <rossand> Trying to debug a dell vostro 1520 laptop running jaunty. external microphone (via. jack) has bad noise. I tried 8.04 and reproduced the issue. I then tried vista and it works fine there. Looking for suggestions to debug & solve. Thanks.
[19:19] <johnny5_> BlueEagle: Super grub disk restored my vista in the Win option ;-) then I used the BCD to make functionality to be able to switch between the two operating systems.
[19:19] <BlueEagle> dewdude: Then I misunderstood.
[19:19] <rumy> i tried nd den
[19:19] <rumy> rumy@rumy-laptop:~$ sudo dpkg --configure -a
[19:19] <rumy> [sudo] password for rumy:
[19:19] <rumy> Setting up java-common (0.30ubuntu3) ...
[19:19] <rumy> Processing triggers for man-db ...
[19:19] <rumy> Processing triggers for doc-base ...
[19:19] <rumy> Processing 23 changed, 2 added doc-base file(s)...
[19:19] <FloodBot3> rumy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:19] <dewdude> BlueEagle, no problem.
[19:20] <johnny5_> Oh get rid of vista loader... don't want to run vista?
[19:20] <AaronT1251> rumy: it should be still running, just leave it for a while
[19:20] <JoeZiehmer> How do I install Ubuntu 8.04 on a PPC without it going slow to a creep?
[19:20] <dewdude> errr, i probably misexplained....someone wants to get rid of grub and restore vista
[19:20] <jipsy> can i change my graphic from intel to something better??im using a laptop
[19:21] <dewdude> jipsy: not likely. most laptop hardware is embedded in the system. but there's a chance if your system supports that laptop graphic card spec
[19:21] <jipsy> how can i change it?
[19:21] <JoeZiehmer> Or should I try to get rid of gnome and run xfce?  It really does go slow to a crawl completely.
[19:21] <rumy> ok but nw it says i hav a broken package
[19:21] <dewdude> you have to find out if it can be changed first, then if it is, you have to take the laptop apart.
[19:21] <jipsy> okish ^^ thnx
[19:21] <ProfOak> dewdude: go into your bios, and enable compatibility mode on your hard drive
[19:21] <AaronT1251> rumy: see if it will let you into synaptic
[19:21]  * dewdude blinks
[19:22] <dewdude> wrong tab-complete ProfOak?
[19:22] <panfist> i started an ubuntu LAMP server serving some php files; when i navigate to the server, it wants me to save the php files instead of rendering them in the browser
[19:22] <deany> panfist, a2enmod php5
[19:22] <johnny5_> dewdude: I believe the super grub disk did just that. if it doesn't it won't hurt anything to try. You'll still be able to boot into dreaded vista.
[19:22] <rumy> hey yehit did tahnx a lot
[19:22] <JoeZiehmer> dewdude how do I set the Ubuntu 8.04 I'm running the Ubuntu 8.04?
[19:22] <ProfOak> dewdude: Sorry could you repeat that?
[19:22] <stefg> JoeZiehmer: how much RAM do you have ?
[19:22] <gumpish> =/ Annoying problem...  (Jaunty) when I click on a toolbar button to compose new messages in Thunderbird, either to create a new message or to reply to one, the message composition window appears in the foreground but the main window still has focus!
[19:22] <AaronT1251> rumy: np
[19:22] <JoeZiehmer> 784 RAM
[19:23] <Shaun2222> with ubuntu 8.04 is there no /etc/inittab?
[19:23] <rumy> wats da ubuntu equivalent to utorrents?
[19:23] <dewdude> JoeZiehmer, i don't understand what you're asking.
[19:23] <jipsy> can i watch porn using my linux internet??
[19:23] <JoeZiehmer> iMac 500 running Ubuntu only.
[19:23] <johnny5_> AFK
[19:23] <Amerigo> what do you use to control the number of desktops?
[19:23] <dewdude> ProfOak, you told me to go in to bios and enable compability mode....i didn't ask anything about that
[19:23] <dewdude> JoeZiehmer, I still don't understand what you're asking.
[19:23] <AaronT1251> rumy: transmission bitorrent client
[19:23] <JoeZiehmer> Can 784 RAM handle XFCE or Gnome Stef?
[19:23] <bastidrazor> !torrents > rumy
[19:23] <stefg> JoeZiehmer: that should be fine for standard ubuntu... define 'slow'
[19:24] <dewdude> likely, yes.
[19:24] <pepperjack> JoeZiehmer: gnome is just fine on 500MB physical memory
[19:24] <panfist> deany: this module is already enabled
[19:24] <jet_> looking for suggestions on a good music player
[19:24] <deany> panfist, restarted apache?
[19:24] <pepperjack> jet_: xmms ;)
[19:24] <JoeZiehmer> Down to a point where it does not even act and goes to a stop even with #dri
[19:24] <ProfOak> jet_: Banshee
[19:24] <pepperjack> jet_: or rather beep media player
[19:24] <jipsy> can i get virus or is it bad for my linux to watch porn??
[19:24] <JoeZiehmer> Disabling the dri and it does not even work is that part of the hard drive issues that I've heard about?
[19:25] <dewdude> JoeZiehmer, it's an iMac?
[19:25] <balaji> Hello need to find the time I logged into the system
[19:25] <deany> panfist,  installed seperate packages or with tasksel?  http://www.howtoforge.com/installing-apache2-with-php5-and-mysql-support-on-ubuntu-9.04-lamp
[19:25] <JoeZiehmer> Yes its an iMac.
[19:25] <balaji> can somebody help
[19:25] <pepperjack> jipsy: linux virii are pretty much non existent
[19:25] <VCoolio> balaji: "uptime" in terminal
[19:25] <dewdude> JoeZiehmer, what graphics module are you using? I had issues with dri on my iMac for a while
[19:25] <stefg> JoeZiehmer: ATI video i guess?
[19:25] <balaji> Thanks u
[19:25] <jipsy> wats that mean?
[19:25] <JoeZiehmer> iMac 500; yes Stef.
[19:25] <Rassa> to get grub right with this new kernel it is giving me the option to "install the package maintainer's version" or keep the local version currently installed" which should I go with?
[19:25] <jet_> i want a player, that will generate randomized playlists from my library
[19:26] <JoeZiehmer> Sorry my asperger's gets in the why of my communicating sometimes LOL
[19:26] <jet_> to load to a 2 gig mp3 player.....
[19:26] <brianguertin> My computer froze when it was going to sleep, I restarted and now there's no sound (Null Output).  Confirmed sound still working in Windows
[19:26] <jipsy> pepperjack,wat do u min by that?
[19:26] <JoeZiehmer> *way
[19:26] <pepperjack> jipsy: join #ubuntu-offtopic and ask mc44
[19:26] <stefg> JoeZiehmer: my guess is that the video driver is causing trouble...
[19:26] <JoeZiehmer> Change the video to vesa then from ati?
[19:27] <JoeZiehmer> Or the bios open firmware on my mine is still screwed up to hell.
[19:27] <stefg> JoeZiehmer: try it... and disable compiz
[19:27] <panfist> deany i installed separate packages
[19:27] <dewdude> JoeZiehmer, yes. the ati module for the rage cards isn't stable. i had to use vesa back in.....Hoary on my iMac
[19:27] <JoeZiehmer> Change compiz to ati...
[19:28] <panfist> deany sudo apt-get install apache2 php5-mysql libapache2-mod-php5 mysql-server
[19:28] <JoeZiehmer> Let me guess sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[19:28] <kickAss> hello everyone, can someone point me to some command line interpreter for Perl available for ubuntu/linux
[19:28] <deany> panfist, no idea then.  I used tasksel and it works fine, the only thing ive seen to fix downloading php files and not serving em is the module not enabled..  try reinstall it
[19:28] <satya2881988> can any1 help me finding anyremote-j2me-client link
[19:28] <dewdude> no, disable compiz entirely. System -> Preferences -> Appeareance -> Visual effects -> Select None
[19:28] <falco_> hi
[19:28] <AaronT1251> hi
[19:28] <falco_> does anyone know C++?
[19:29] <deany> panfist, or uninstall the pkgs you installed and go for tasksel method or that webpage
[19:29] <falco_> My program is fast in windows, but plays the sound slow in linux(plays after half a second)
[19:29] <rjune_wrk> falco_: depends on what you want.
[19:29] <falco_> I am using the sfml libraries
[19:29] <Pici> falco_: The folks in ##c++ would be the best people to talk to
[19:29] <falco_> ok
[19:29] <JoeZiehmer> Running 6.06 right now can I disable it in terminals or does it have to go through the slow log roll?
[19:29] <kickAss> i've used python interpreter earlier and found it to be quite useful...you dont need to write a complete program, you just write a line to code and test it right away,,, i really like that way
[19:30] <ksbalaji> mine is hardy - I have sigmatel cell with usb connectivity. I need an application -GUI- to connect to the cell. Please suggest  one!!
[19:31] <Bob_Dole> How can I obtain the libopenal1 library for ubuntu 8.04? it doesn't seem to be in the repos. and my googling makes me think it is only in Intrepid.. I want to stay on a LTS, however.
[19:31] <satya2881988> can any1 help me finding anyremote-j2me-client link
[19:31] <kickAss> @ Bob_Dole , not in multiverse repo?
[19:31] <satya2881988> hello bots
[19:31] <kickAss> @ satya2881988 ,,,google dint help?
[19:31] <satya2881988> can any1 help me finding anyremote-j2me-client link
[19:32] <zherkehzi> try the synaptic
[19:32] <kickAss> @ satya2881988 ,,, have patience
[19:32] <satya2881988> sourceforge is very slow
[19:32] <kickAss> so what?
[19:32] <JoeZiehmer> Guess dewdude left.
[19:32] <panfist> deany the problem was that my browser cached an incorrect version of the page
[19:32] <Bob_Dole> kickAss,  sudo apt-get install libopenal1 did nothing..and everything on google says "intrepid" which does me no good on hardy.
[19:33] <JoeZiehmer> Can I disable the compiz in ubuntu 6.06?
[19:33] <Taft> General question, how often should I 'sudo apt-get update'?
[19:33] <deany> panfist, umm
[19:33] <deany> panfist, always the smallest things....
[19:33] <stefg> JoeZiehmer: you should really try something newer ... Dapper is EOL on the desktop
[19:34] <stefg> !dapper
[19:34] <kickAss> @ Bob_Dole , make sure you have multiverse included in your repo, then update your package listing using sudo apt-get update,,,then if apt-cache search <ur lib> returns anything, its fine...else let us know we'll look for it
[19:34] <satya2881988> got it
[19:34] <ksbalaji> 8.04 here - I have a cell phone sigmatel  usb connectivity. I need an application -GUI- to connect/communicate. Please suggest  one!!
[19:34] <kickAss> @ satya2881988 , done?
[19:34] <JoeZiehmer> Stef can I disable compiz in Ubuntu 6.06 or through a terminal?
[19:35] <kickAss> @ JoeZiehmer , u can disable thru compiz config, I guess?
[19:35] <stefg> JoeZiehmer: compiz is not in 6.06... too old. I wasn't suspecting you were running a 3 year old distro
[19:35] <JoeZiehmer> Running a computer from 2001
[19:35] <jonesy_> is the free node
[19:36] <kickAss> @ jonesy_ what?
[19:36] <JoeZiehmer> lol @steph is it much to old lol
[19:36] <jonesy_> the server freenode
[19:36] <kickAss> yes,,,terribly old
[19:36] <kickAss> okey, so what?
[19:36] <JoeZiehmer> Heard that Ubuntu 8.04 can be run on it.
[19:36] <BigMao> Hey there, I'm using the Dropline Neu! custom theme, and I really like it - the only thing is, the "X" icon that closes tabs are too big!  I'd like to edit it but can't find the files
[19:36] <jonesy_> how can i costum build my ubnutes kernel
[19:36] <stefg> JoeZiehmer: doesn't matter.... ubuntu is not getting /so/ much fatter with each release. Try 8.04
[19:36] <legend2440> Bob_Dole: in hardy it was called  ibopenal0a     http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/libopenal0a
[19:37] <JoeZiehmer> Tried last night  it broke my system.
[19:37] <Paddy_NI> !kernel | jonesy_
[19:37] <kickAss> @ jonesy_ , get the souirce code for kernel ,,compile it and u r done
[19:37] <JoeZiehmer> Had to reinstall all the way up to, today.
[19:37] <stefg> !hardy | JoeZiehmer
[19:37] <satya2881988> not yet got the file at anyremote.sourceforge.net that site was quick but sourceforge.net/projects/anyremote was very slow , why is it so?
[19:37] <zherkehzi> Is setting up a cluster worth the trouble? Is there going to be a major difference in speed?
[19:37] <diego> wenas
[19:37] <jonesy_>   /msg ubottu stages
[19:37] <zherkehzi> !cluster
[19:37] <JoeZiehmer> Yes, but then it takes so long to boot and does not really load it just hangs for a long time.
[19:37] <jonesy_> cheers
[19:38] <pepperjack> zherkehzi: minus: increased headach  plus: bragging rights
[19:38] <jonesy_> lot of noise in here hard to understand it all ah well
[19:38] <zherkehzi> hmm. I just might then. I'l hook up two computer via fiber optic cabels.
[19:38] <jonesy_> whos Edgy?
[19:38] <zherkehzi> that would be awesome
[19:39] <jonesy_> im on 9.04 ?
[19:39] <stefg> JoeZiehmer: however... your options are 8.04, 8.10 or 9.04 ... dapper has no longer support, the browser is ages old and chances are, that a lot of bugs are fixed in newer releases
[19:39] <JoeZiehmer> Can I disable compiz in a nano command?
[19:39] <jonesy_> nano
[19:40] <Bob_Dole> kickAss, multiverse is enabled. It can't find libopenal1
[19:40] <MerlinW> nano is a texteditor:)
[19:40] <bastidrazor> JoeZiehmer, no, in a terminal type metacity --replace &
[19:40] <legend2440> Bob_Dole: in hardy it was called  libopenal0a     http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/libopenal0a
[19:40] <satya2881988> kutta
[19:41] <stefg> JoeZiehmer: There is no compiz in 6.06... you don't need to disable it
[19:41] <JoeZiehmer> But when it boots, it boot slowly stef.
[19:41] <satya2881988> kamina
[19:41] <JoeZiehmer> It doesn't even run up to a total par.
[19:41] <satya2881988> matherchod
[19:42] <Bob_Dole> legend2440, well, can I symlink or some such to make it report under the name libopenal1 then? Tremfusion won't use libopenal0a :/
[19:42] <ksbalaji> 8.04 here - I have a cell phone sigmatel  usb connectivity. I need an application -GUI- to connect/communicate. Please suggest  one!!
[19:42] <JoeZiehmer> What do you think stef it hangs up when it upgrades and nothing.
[19:43] <ke6jqt> install ubuntu on hp touchsmart tx2-1012nr needhelp getting sound to work
[19:43] <JoeZiehmer> Just DOA as soon as it boots up, runs super slowly, and does not respond.
[19:43] <JoeZiehmer> Even with dri disabled it still hangs up.
[19:43] <ttl4> anyone here use video conferencing software such as openmcu?
[19:43] <JoeZiehmer> Tried vesa command in place of ati and still does not respond unless I should do sudo apt-get install vesa?
[19:44] <legend2440> Bob_Dole: are you trying to install  tremfusion_0.99r3_i386.deb?
[19:44] <stefg> JoeZiehmer: try http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/jaunty/release/ubuntu-9.04-desktop-powerpc.iso ... no use in debugging dapper anymore
[19:44] <Bob_Dole> legend, yeah
[19:44] <JoeZiehmer> thats it I never installed the f*cking vesa driver then modify the apperances.
[19:44] <Bob_Dole> legend2440, yeah*
[19:45] <ksbalaji> 8.04 here - I have a cell phone sigmatel  usb connectivity. I need an application -GUI- to connect/communicate. Please suggest  one!!
[19:45] <JoeZiehmer> <------ Sits in corner like Mason from Dead Like Me
[19:45] <legend2440> Bob_Dole: and you get error because of libopenal1?
[19:45] <sangandongo> hiya
[19:45] <JoeZiehmer> Whoops thanks for catching my accident there Stef.
[19:46] <ke6jqt> can someone help with sound problem
[19:46] <Bob_Dole> legend2440, yeah. Dependency unsatisfiable
[19:46] <deany> ksbalaji, wammu
[19:46] <spO> what does the server edition of ubuntu have that the desktop version does not?
[19:46] <sangandongo> what's the issue, ke6jqt?
[19:46] <spO> does it have some kind of different kernel impmentations/ie, does it contain something that is difficult to addon to the desktop version if you install that version instead?
[19:46] <ksbalaji> deany thanks!
[19:47] <stefg> spO: a server kernel and no desktop bloat
[19:47] <ke6jqt> no sound i have hp touchsmart tx12-1012nr notbook
[19:47]  * Bob_Dole is using a 9.04 system, but configuring an older system that works much better with 8.04 than 9.04
[19:47] <ke6jqt> unbuntu 9,04 install
[19:48] <sangandongo> ke6: http://affy.blogspot.com/2008/02/ubuntu-sound-not-working-on-hp.html
[19:48] <sangandongo> google is your friend.
[19:49] <spO> ste, what does the server kernel have that is different from a desktop kernel?
[19:49] <Cube> hey, i want to copy all JPG files in a folder (and its subfolders) to another folder, but some pictures have the same name, so i'd like a different name to be used so it doesnt overwrite anything. [basically gather all pictures, regardless if name is the same]
[19:50] <legend2440> Bob_Dole: have you tried   Tremfusion-0.99r3-linux32.tar.bz2? not sure but that may work
[19:50] <deany> Cube, something like gthumb
[19:50] <Cube> deany: well, im looking for a script (perhaps even a single line command)
[19:51] <sangandongo> I actually have a question regarding 9.04 and the linux-virtual meta package
[19:51] <theTroy> Are there any good book readers? Preferably stylish with animation of the pages and "paper-like" textures for the pages, not just notepad :)
[19:51] <sangandongo> seems that upon installing that and booting to the -server kernel that gets installed, i no longer have networking
[19:51] <sangandongo> of any sort
[19:51] <fsufitch> hi. i have an ubuntu vps and domain name, and i'd like to set up a mail server so that my email address is fsufitch@domain.com. how can i do that?
[19:51] <sangandongo> the devices don't even show up anymore.
[19:51] <stefg> spO: it is compiled with different options... you don't want a responsive desktop on a server, but a reliable workhorse for doznes of users accessing different services at the same time. in short: it's optimized for server workload, not for desktop/single user usage
[19:51] <erUSUL> spO: the compile time configuration is different
[19:51] <Cube> deany: but k ill have a look at gthumb
[19:52] <ugliefrog> !unmount volume
[19:52] <frostburn> fsufitch, check out postfix, and good luck, i'd just use google apps
[19:52] <sangandongo> ugliefrog: try !umount :)
[19:52] <HereticPilgrim> Hi, I have a problem with my ATI driver. Could someone please help me?
[19:53] <fsufitch> frostburn: i want the email addr to forward to my gmail address anyway, so google apps is better for that?
[19:53] <frostburn> fsufitch, i do the same thing
[19:53] <igneousquill> HereticPilgrim: Don't ask for help, just explain your problem and we'll see if anyone knows the answer.
[19:53] <theTroy> Are there any good book readers? Preferably stylish with animation of the pages and "paper-like" textures for the pages, not just notepad :)
[19:53] <legend2440> Bob_Dole: someone may know in channel  #tremfusion
[19:54] <fsufitch> frostburn: i think im going to go with postfix, google apps costs money ;)
[19:54] <ugliefrog> !umount
[19:54] <sangandongo> I think my question was lost in the mix
[19:54] <frostburn> fsufitch, you can get the free standard edition, unless you have a company
[19:55] <sangandongo> I installed the linux-virtual metapackage and upon reboot, i lost all networking
[19:55] <fsufitch> frostburn: they say a free trial for 30 days, and after that $50/user/year
[19:55] <HereticPilgrim> I can't get the fglrx-driver to work. As soon as I install it and reboot, after the loading bar the screen goes black and has some random dots at the top.
[19:55] <fsufitch> frostburn: wait, nvm im silly
[19:55] <satya2881988> does anyone has electronics projects
[19:55] <sangandongo> i noticed this wasn't isolated to the virtual package
[19:55] <sangandongo> it had to do with the -server kernel
[19:55] <sangandongo> anyone else notice this or know whether this is a reported bug?
[19:56] <sangandongo> i've done searching for a few days but have been unable to find an answer
[19:56] <ctmjr> HereticPilgrim: what fglrx driver did you install and what card do you have?
[19:57] <JoeZiehmer> Stef think I might have to stick with Ubuntu 6.06 its the last officially supported brand of PPC by Ubuntu.
[19:57] <Saruji> hello guys, quick question, how can I setup my desktop to remember my sessions so that after you restart everything comes back up....I think this used to be possible with 8.04
[19:57] <johnny5_> How do I get permission to edit rc.local on ubuntu
[19:57] <HereticPilgrim> ctmjr: I have an ATI Radeon HD 2600 Mobile an I used the one from the restricted drivers manager (just clicked activate and rebooted)
[19:57] <sangandongo> JoeZiehmer: That's right
[19:58] <stefg> sangandongo: the server kernel might support a different set of network hardware. what does <lspci | grep net> tell you ?
[19:58] <sangandongo> stefg: it does not
[19:58] <sangandongo> er
[19:58] <JoeZiehmer> Yes, yes so 8.04 will brick the system and make me wait hours to get rid of the mess left by the compiz.
[19:58] <sangandongo> i'm booted into the -generic right now
[19:58] <sangandongo> so i can network.
[19:58] <lstarnes> johnny5_: what are you using for editing it?
[19:58] <JoeZiehmer> Thanks sang.
[19:59] <sangandongo> i assumed the same thing, honestly.
[19:59] <sangandongo> tried to compile a custom kernel
[19:59] <sangandongo> but that failed too
[19:59] <johnny5_> lstarnes: just a text editor
[19:59] <ctmjr> HereticPilgrim: go into the rescue mode console and type sudo aticonfig --initial and see what happens if everything looks good reboot
[19:59] <stefg> JoeZiehmer: Official support has ended.... you'll have to work with community supported versions
[19:59] <lstarnes> johnny5_: which one?
[19:59] <johnny5_> lstarnes: gedit
[19:59] <stefg> !eol | JoeZiehmer
[20:00] <lstarnes> johnny5_: press alt+f2 then enter this: gksudo gedit /etc/rc.local
[20:00] <HereticPilgrim> ctmjr: how do i get into the rescue mode? I'm booting from a live USB stick
[20:00] <JoeZiehmer> Stef upgrading it is not that easy the compiz has to be edited directly and I'd have to find it through terminal and change to vesa.
[20:00] <apoleo12> has anyone encounter strangeist thing with your linux box like the whole os frozed as screen goes black while KB caplock and scroll lock blinks? at end unresponsive?
[20:00] <h1n1> orh
[20:01] <JoeZiehmer> Can I change the compiz when it is starting?
[20:01] <erUSUL> apoleo12: that's a kernel panic
[20:01] <JoeZiehmer> Meaning when the install is starting up?
[20:01] <stefg> JoeZiehmer: get 9.04 and use 'safe graphics mode' for starters
[20:01] <erUSUL> apoleo12: The BSOD of linux
[20:01] <h1n1> anyone know how to change ttl value for my connection?
[20:01] <johnny5_> lstarnes: Didn't work
[20:01] <abbazabba> what would be the best way to connect two computers on one router, both running ubuntu (one running 9, the other running 8).. i'm doing this so i can move files over from 8 to 9
[20:01] <JoeZiehmer> How do I run safe graphics mode?
[20:01] <ctmjr> HereticPilgrim: boot into the broken system at the grub load screen choose rescue mode
[20:01] <h1n1> i googled..and i fail!
[20:02] <erUSUL> apoleo12: you should report it as a kernel bug if you can get log messages etc... or you can reliabily reproduce it
[20:02] <HereticPilgrim> ctmjr
[20:02] <erUSUL> !bugs | apoleo12
[20:02] <rjune_wrk> abbazabba: usually, a switch
[20:02] <mbeierl> abbazabba: you could use a networked file system like nfs, or simply copy the files using something like scp
[20:02] <stefg> abbazabba: if there's no windows/samba involved i'd use nfs
[20:02] <HereticPilgrim> ctmjr: thanks I'll try this. What if it doesn't work?
[20:02] <rjune_wrk> router goes to switch, computers go to switch.
[20:02] <stefg> !nfs | abbazabba
[20:02] <abbazabba> rjune_wrk: so there is no way i can connect the two even though they are on the same routher
[20:02] <johnny5_> I'm getting the popup "you do not have permissions nessary to edit this file
[20:02] <abbazabba> stef and mbeiririri thank you
[20:02] <apoleo12> Really? theres BSOD exists? I always thought linux is stable?
[20:03] <abbazabba> apoleo12: i've had it blue out on me.. it's been rare but it happens
[20:03] <mbeierl> apoleo12: stable and 100% completely free of bugs are two different things :)
[20:03] <erUSUL> apoleo12: there is no "bug free" software
[20:03] <pepperjack> johnny5_: sudo or gksudo for gui app for instance gksudo gedit
[20:03] <grkblood2> sure there is
[20:03] <grkblood2> windows is bug free
[20:03] <apoleo12> Ok, so Ill report it... but Im still learning at everything all at once ;)
[20:04] <ctmjr> HereticPilgrim: if it does not work try this sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg it will set it too default then reboot
[20:04] <erUSUL> apoleo12: and do not forget that busted hardwar can couse kernel panics
[20:04] <apoleo12> erUSUL: yeah Ill keep in mind.. but long live linux!!!
[20:04] <mbeierl> apoleo12: especially when it comes to "proprietary" video drivers like nVidia or ATI
[20:04] <johnny5_> pepperjack: what?
[20:04] <JoeZiehmer> Stef how do I log into safe graphics mode?
[20:04] <roger21> hello
[20:05] <abbazabba> stefg: is nfs a command based?
[20:05] <HereticPilgrim> ctmjr: thanks. be right back
[20:05] <abbazabba> mbeierl: can you tell me more about scp?
[20:05] <satya2881988> problem enabling desktop effects in ubuntu 9.04
[20:05] <petllama> abbazabba: http://wiki.centos.org/TipsAndTricks/BecomingRoot
[20:05] <petllama> errr
[20:05] <petllama> wrong paste, sry
[20:05] <stefg> JoeZiehmer: it's a boot option ... press F6 (or was it F4) in the boot menu (where you are asked for the language setting)
[20:05] <abbazabba> haha
[20:05] <petllama> http://www.hypexr.org/linux_scp_help.php
[20:05] <mbeierl> !scp | abbazabba
[20:05] <apoleo12> erUSUL: I doubt my hardware is busted as it runs smoothly so far.... so where can I find the log msg? system log?
[20:06] <pepperjack> johnny5_: in order to edit a config file like that that is not under your home directory you need to launch gedit with root permissions so from a terminal type gksudo gedit
[20:06] <xerox1> any recommendations for a mpd client? i am using ncmpc, but i am a bit unhappy with it
[20:06] <rjune_wrk> abbazabba: GNOME will mount a remote system via scp.
[20:06] <mbeierl> abbazabba: so you will need to install the openssh-server using apt-get
[20:06] <apoleo12> mbeierl: Ok I get you and thats true
[20:06] <erUSUL> apoleo12: /var/log/messages  and /var/log/syslog are a good start
[20:06] <apoleo12> ok thanks
[20:06] <JoeZiehmer> Then turn off compiz from the safe boot option from there?
[20:07] <mbeierl> now if only I could find out information about gvfs and fuse options ?!?!? :)
[20:07] <Evet> go go rasputin
[20:07] <abbazabba> mbeierl: so i just have to install openssh on both
[20:07] <roger21> i just got into 8.10 with all the hal thing instead of xorg.conf, i lost some nice mice/keb config in the evol and i would like to know if it is ok if i put my xorg conf back or is it going to mess up the whole system (i just don't want to jump into the .fdi files right know) ?
[20:07] <abbazabba> start them up then i'm good to go?
[20:07] <abbazabba> rjune_wrk: and after openssh is running, i could just pretty much nautilus my stuff over?
[20:07] <roger21> now
[20:07] <xerox1> any recommendations for a mpd client? i am using ncmpc, but i am a bit unhappy with it <- more precise: i am looking for a terminal based client
[20:07] <sangandongo> stefg: i'm a bit rusty, how do i go about adding support for those network drivers in the -server kernel? i will have to compile a custom?
[20:07] <stefg> abbazabba: it requires editing some conf files (/etc/exports and /etc/fstab on the target machine). But that's not too hard to do with the How To at hand and it'S really *much* faster and easier than samba once you got the hanf of it
[20:07] <mbeierl> abbazabba: technically you only need the server on one.  The "client" would make the connection and then either send or receive all the data from the other
[20:08] <mbeierl> abbazabba: alternatively, you could always take the hard disk out of the 8.x machine, put it into the 9.04 machine, mount it locally and copy the files :)
[20:08] <erUSUL> !repeat | xerox1
[20:09] <wjblack> Hello!
[20:09] <abbazabba> mbeierl: haha f that, i spent the last three hours in a machine, i don't want to disect one and add to this
[20:09] <JoeZiehmer> Thanks for the help stef.
[20:09] <satya2881988> intel 865G drivers
[20:09] <rjune_wrk> abbazabba: you have to "mount" the system, but yeah.
[20:09] <abbazabba> stefg: which are you talking about nfs or scp
[20:09] <mbeierl> abbazabba: I hear you
[20:09] <JoeZiehmer> So its a safe graphics boot and then disabling from there compiz.
[20:09] <mbeierl> abbazabba: stefg would be referring to nfs
[20:10] <safruhani> hi,using 8.10 yesterday i've installed ubuntu-tweak , now the compiz menu is disabled but it's working and i couldn't stop... How can i stop compiz window specialications ?
[20:10] <stefg> abbazabba: nfs ... scp is ssh -based...
[20:10] <xerox1> erUSUL, i like to wait, but i addded an important fact to it: i need a console app and not a gui based...
[20:10] <abbazabba> mbeierl: (i should stop having so many convo's at once) so technically all i have to do is install openssh-server on the one.. then i could take it all via nautilus?
[20:10] <apoleo12> Ok I have two logs open... and the ubuntu-bug <package> is he command? if so how? In the terminal?
[20:10] <erUSUL> abbazabba: if it is a "one time" copy  and you do not want a permanent set up you can use netcat a tar to make the copy
[20:10] <satya2881988> can anyone help me
[20:10] <erUSUL> xerox1: ok; fair enough
[20:10]  * wjblack had the -13 kernel a while back and ended up with some grody ext3 corruption.  Do we have a canned answer on how to deal with that yet?  I've upgraded to 2.6.30 and run e2fsck when booted from a USB stick, but an md5 of a given 4G file keeps coming out differently...
[20:10] <mbeierl> abbazabba: no.  ssh is a secure connection server
[20:11] <mbeierl> abbazabba: scp is a command line utility that copies files over ssh
[20:11] <stefg> sangandongo: first find out what hardware you have, then you'll see what you have to do to get it working (usually soemone has paved the way already)
[20:11] <mbeierl> that is why nfs is probably easier
[20:11] <sangandongo> i found it.
[20:11] <abbazabba> erUSUL: it is gonna be a one time copy, what's this netcat you are talking about?
[20:12] <sangandongo> stefg: one moment.
[20:12] <erUSUL> wjblack: so you got a corruption in only a file ? that's too subtle ... you better take that to ubuntu kernel devs or ext3 developers...
[20:12] <mbeierl> abbazabba: if you want to use nautilus that is.  if you want to simply copy a directory and all its subdirs, scp might be quicker
[20:12] <abbazabba> mbeierl: ohh i'd rather do it through the gui if possible, so you are saying nfs is my way
[20:12] <abbazabba> mbeierl: it'd be through multiple directories
[20:12] <wjblack> erUSUL: I've been getting weirdness everywhere--the 4G file example is just a nicely repeatable problem.
[20:13] <JoeZiehmer> Thanks stef
[20:13] <erUSUL> abbazabba: http://www.screenage.de/blog/2007/12/30/using-netcat-and-tar-for-network-file-transfer/
[20:13] <mbeierl> abbazabba: it would allow you to use nautilus much more easily, yes.  To do the same with SSH would require you to set up SSH FS (a file system driver over SSH)
[20:13] <sangandongo> stefg: Broadcom NetXtreme BCM5752M Gig Eth and Atheros Comm AR5121 Wireless 802.11abg
[20:13] <wjblack> I've seen complaints about the -13 kernel and was wondering if there's a known-to-not-corrupt one that's preferred.
[20:13] <spO> any of you use a remote control with ubuntu?
[20:14] <apoleo12> Ok I have two logs open... and the ubuntu-bug <package> is he command? if so how? In the terminal?
[20:14] <dave_30> is there a decent way to sync an ipod touch with ubuntu
[20:14] <HereticPilgrim> ctmjr: I can't get into rescue mode. it says "there is no dedicated rescure mode on this disc"
[20:14] <safruhani> hi, how can i remove the graphic card drivers... becouse compiz enable but i can't disable it from menu...
[20:14] <satya2881988> buh
[20:15] <jonesy_> why do you want them removed safruhani
[20:15] <sangandongo> safru: killall compiz :)
[20:15] <stefg> sangandongo: that's wireless network... the -server kernel surely does not deal with these in depth. Any particular reason you need the -server kernel ?
[20:16] <sangandongo> stefg: because it gets installed by default when installing the linux-virtual metapackage
[20:16] <safruhani> compiz is enable, but it says, i can't enable it sangandongo jonesy_, i wan't to stop it and did what u sayi but nothing changes
[20:16] <designer> why does compiz remove my title bars and won't rotate as a cube?
[20:16] <stefg> sangandongo: what are you doing?  set up a virtual machine?
[20:16] <designer> no
[20:16] <sangandongo> stefg: yes.
[20:17] <koziolek> quit
[20:17] <HereticPilgrim> ctmjr: I can't get into rescue mode. it says "there is no dedicated rescure mode on this disc"
[20:17] <safruhani> sangandongo: jonesy_ when u change the windows via alt+tab, it gets a screenshots of windows, this is enable, and i can't stop it...
[20:17] <Gadu> I'm using Ubuntu 8.10 and I NEED gcc 4.4 but it currently only seems to have 4.3. What is the easiest way to get 4.4 on this?
[20:17] <safruhani> jonesy_: sangandongo i've installed ubuntu-tweak yesterday on ubuntu 8.10
[20:18] <sangandongo> stefg: KVM/QEMU load fine, I get all the hardware support, but was getting issues after the installation point. I am now attempting other paths to get the vm to work successfully.
[20:18] <Gadu> Karmic appears to have 4.4 but I don't intend to update to it
[20:18] <safruhani> ok i found it :)
[20:18] <stefg> sangandongo: the virtual guest machine does only see some virtualized interfaces ... how come that you see physical hardware fom inside the virtual machine ?
[20:18] <sangandongo> stefg: i think the matter is getting a bit muddled.
[20:19]  * stefg too
[20:19] <sangandongo> stefg: I think you've pointed me in a better direction anyhow
[20:19] <sangandongo> stefg: i'll see if i can figure out another way to deal with this.
[20:19] <h1n1> Interface: ppp0 Bandwidth: +44k/s -1k/s
[20:20] <safruhani> sangandongo: jonesy_ on ubuntu-tweak windows menu, at the bottom of the page  enable Metacity's compositing feature  is default ... problem is solved, thanks your patience
[20:20] <Gadu> would download the gcc-4.4 package from karmic or debian function properly on my intrepid install?
[20:20] <saml> what are packages I need to use vnc?  i did apt-get install tightvnc    then when I do startx, it says exec: 5: /usr/bin/X11/X: not found
[20:21] <johnny5_> peperjack: How can I give myself permission to edit any file that way? I'm really getting tired of the permissions heh I just started doing "extra" stuff on my ubuntu and it's really anoying not being able to "GUI" what you want to do.
[20:21] <stefg> samtdon't mix up client and server
[20:21] <stefg> saml: don't mix up client and server
[20:22] <saml> stefg, i have vncserver running, i'm trying to vnc into it using widows
[20:22] <saml> from windows machine
[20:22] <saml> but i see blank screen. that's why i tried startx on the server
[20:22] <johnny5_> I thought just logging in as root would work but it won't even let me login as root. I've added myself to all the groups I found.
[20:22] <stefg> saml: but you have no X /runnig headless on the machine with the vnc-server ?
[20:23] <sangandongo> thanks everyone.
[20:23] <sangandongo> bye.
[20:23] <persistantubuntu> hello. i am running ubuntu with persistent changes. should i do an update ?
[20:23] <jimcooncat> saml, if you're using vncserver, your display will be :1, not :0
[20:23] <saml> stefg, yah. i just did apt-get install tightvnc   i'm using server version of ubuntu
[20:24] <Gadu> johnny_: rather than logging in a root, I'd recommend `sudo su` for root work in terminal and `gksudo <program name>` for gui work as root
[20:24] <HereticPilgrim> I have a problem with my live usb boot. I can't get into rescue mode to save my fglrx
[20:24] <stefg> saml: i think taht needs a bit of configuration... http://stevenharman.net/blog/archive/2008/12/13/vnc-to-a-headless-ubuntu-box.aspx might help
[20:24] <jonesy_> fglrx lol
[20:24] <saml> stefg, thank you
[20:24] <HereticPilgrim> jonesy: what?
[20:25] <jonesy_> i have problems with fglrx
[20:25] <johnny5_> saml: VNC into ubuntu from windows, I use ultraVNC on my windows machine the remote desktop connection didn't work for me. then you just type in "hostname:0"
[20:25] <otacon122> What difference would 4-4-4-12 PC6400 RAM make over 5-5-5-15 PC6400?
[20:26] <HereticPilgrim> can anyone tell me how to get into rescue mode from a live USB boot? thank you
[20:26] <saml> is there a command to kill vncserver or do I use kill ?
[20:26] <saml> vncserver -kill lol
[20:27] <saml> how do I know which display my vncserver is running?
[20:27] <saml> man vncserver doesn't seem to have a way
[20:27] <otacon122> johnny, can the current stable release of Samba do routing?
[20:27] <jimd> HereticPilgrim: if you have a live session then I would just open a terminal window, sudo su - (to become root), use fdisk -l (to list the partitions on your hard disks) and then manually create mount points (/mnt/targ) and mount up your filesystems by hand.
[20:27] <stefg> saml: usually it's 192.168.0.1:0 ... or wahtever your server IP is
[20:28] <jimd> Once you have a live session then you don't really need a separate "rescue mode"
[20:28] <Gadu> anyone for gcc 4.4 on ubuntu?
[20:28] <johnny5_> if your just using the built in vncserver System-> Preferences -> Remote desktop and in there there is a "link" that shows it.
[20:28] <HereticPilgrim> jimd: sorry I forgot to mention: I can't boot anymore because my fglrx driver is screwed up
[20:29] <johnny5_> also vncserver uses default port 5900 if you have a firewall...
[20:29] <dave_30> does the ssh sync still work with non 3.0 ipod touches
[20:30] <jimd> HereticPilgrim: I mean if you can boot from the CD or a USB then you have a live session from which you can debug any other problems you're having.
[20:30] <jimd> If you mean that you're USB installation is broken, try booting with the "2" argument (runlevel 2 ... should be text only)
[20:31] <jimd> Failing that try passing the following options through your bootloader: init=/bin/sh
[20:31] <johnny5_> pepperjack: I'm still getting the permissions error even after typing that in terminal
[20:32] <otacon122> How good is Quagga at routing for small networks (10 devices)?
[20:32] <bastidrazor> HereticPilgrim, you need to mount you / partition then edit you xorg.conf .. change the fglrx driver to vesa .. this will enable you to boot and uninstall fglrx. or you could boot in recovery and do it from a shell
[20:33] <bastidrazor> HereticPilgrim, i'm assuming xserver-xorg-video-radeon is the driver you'll be wanting to get things back in working order
[20:33] <HereticPilgrim> bastidrazor: isn't that the one that's already on the 9.04?
[20:34] <bastidrazor> HereticPilgrim, i believe so yes.. the restricted driver.
[20:34] <legend2440> otacon122:    there is a channel   #quagga   if no one knows here
[20:35] <HereticPilgrim> bastidrazor: and this driver will work properly?
[20:36] <MyWay`> Hi, how to do aliases with sendmail? I just need to forward 2-3 address
[20:36] <bastidrazor> HereticPilgrim, it does for most ati cards. there is no guarantee
[20:36] <sebsebseb> !ops |  legend2440  channal promotion
[20:36] <HereticPilgrim> bastidrazor: and will I be able to run 3D-apps and compiz?
[20:36] <Pici> sebsebseb: ??
[20:37] <legend2440> sebsebseb: i was telling someone where they could get help
[20:37] <sebsebseb> Pici: oh thought he was  advertising some random channal, which isn't really meant to be done
[20:37] <bastidrazor> HereticPilgrim, the radeon allows me to use compiz and 3D ..
[20:37] <sebsebseb> legend2440 pici,  ok my bad
[20:37] <HereticPilgrim> bastidrazor: I found an entry on the internet where it says it should work for my chipset (ATI Radeon HD 2600 Mobile)
[20:37] <Pici> sebsebseb: Someone was asking for quagga help, he just suggested a channel.
[20:37] <lgc> Hi. What's the difference between mounting Ubuntu standalone or mounting it "as another program" from Windows? (I'm citing from memory, but it is something like that on the installation disk.)
[20:37] <bastidrazor> HereticPilgrim, there is also the radeonhd driver. that may be a choice too
[20:37] <Pici> sebsebseb: :)
[20:37] <HereticPilgrim> bastidrazor: okay, I'll just go with the one installed by default
[20:37] <sebsebseb> Pici: what's  quagga it does sound random
[20:38] <Pici> sebsebseb: No idea, it sounds open-sourcey though ;)
[20:38] <HereticPilgrim> bastidrazor: but it says it's only for newer graphic cards
[20:38] <erUSUL> Pici: sebsebseb is router software (fork of zebra iirc)
[20:38] <bastidrazor> HereticPilgrim, then stick with radeon. i tried several drivers before settling on radeon
[20:38] <Taft> Hi. My headphones and speakers simply don't work on my laptop ever since installing ubuntu. What's worse, when I plug in my headphones and unplug them, my LAPTOP speakers don't work for minutes ;_;
[20:39] <Taft> anyone know the plroblem?
[20:39] <sebsebseb> erUSUL: ah ok
[20:40] <stefg> !sound | taft
[20:41] <Taft> !sound
[20:42] <harry__> I want a good video/audio converter for ubuntu 9.04?? Do someone know???
[20:42] <jrib> harry__: ffmpeg
[20:42] <stefg> Taft: yup... the bot will give the same factoid over and over
[20:43] <der_On> Hello. I've just used a font manager called Fontmatrix to use some postscript fonts in Gimp and now it seems my standard fonts have been replaced with some odd narrow, unreadable font. Anyone any idea on how to bring back my default system fonts? It's mostly the problem with browsing web-sites. Some text is displayed in this narrow font.
[20:43] <Solaris444> hi everyone.  is this the right channel to ask about ubuntu server?
[20:43] <kn100> Is there a port of bonsai buddy for linux?
[20:43] <harry__> do someone try arch linux???
[20:44] <erUSUL> Solaris444: yes here or in #ubuntuserver
[20:44] <HereticPilgrim> bastidrazor: thanks for your help :)
[20:44] <Solaris444> kn100, please tell me you are pulling our legs.
[20:44] <kn100> No
[20:44] <Solaris444> thanks erUSUL
[20:44] <kn100> i want it
[20:44] <erUSUL> !ot > harry__
[20:44] <Solaris444> kn100, no you don't
[20:44] <Solaris444> it ships with spyware.
[20:44] <kn100> i miss the price comparison features
[20:44] <kn100> it doesnt
[20:44] <bastidrazor> HereticPilgrim, good luck
[20:44] <sh4rk89> hi people
[20:44] <kn100> :P im pulling your leg
[20:44] <kn100> im not that stupid
[20:44] <harry__> private???
[20:44] <FloodBot3> kn100: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:44] <stefg> !offtopic
[20:45] <Solaris444> kn100: you never know.  I had someone ask me if computer viruses were actual bugs that live in your computer.  and if there was a spray you could buy to kill them.
[20:45] <asger> i need some help with flash. i think i've tryed so many different things, that i've made quite a mess. Right now i can't view flash content on web-pages
[20:46] <MyWay`> Hi, how to do aliases with sendmail? I just need to forward 2-3 address
[20:46] <Solaris444> in any case, I'm running ubuntu server 8.10 LTS, and I was wondering if dist-upgrade updates my kernel to the same one as in 9.04 or if it just applies fixes to the 8.10 one
[20:46] <om26er> can anyone help me firefox is looking like thshttp://img38.imageshack.us/img38/9941/screenshot1aow.png
[20:46] <matreya6> Can anyone help me with a Ubuntux64 multiboot system that can't seem to install GRUB the right way. I'm using a 4 Hdd Box with two disks in RAID1 (containing /home) and another disk containing 3 OS'es, Ubuntu Jaunty 64 Bit, WinXP32Bit and Win2008 Server?
[20:46] <stefg> !upgrade | Solaris444
[20:46] <disown> hey. I just discovered that my /var/log/apache2 has access set to 0750, just wondering if my box has been messed with or if this is standard.
[20:48] <Taft> how do I know if I have a built in sound card?
[20:48] <Tr1n> asger:  I had the same problem until I removed some package called swfsomething.  Maybe a search for apt-get remove swf will help?  I can't remember it's name.
[20:48] <erUSUL> Taft: lspci | grep -i audio
[20:48] <matreya6> Taft, try lspci | grep AUDIO
[20:48] <Solaris444> ok stefg, but then how do i apply security updates to my 8.04 kernel?
[20:48] <johnny5_> I'm trying to get permission to my rc.local file to edit it, sksudo gedit doesn't seem to be working
[20:48] <erUSUL> Solaris444: do the normal updates ?
[20:48] <Bart6114> does anyone know if a (opensource) application exists that automatically downloads all the images from a given website?
[20:49] <harry__> logout
[20:49] <erUSUL> johnny5_: gksudo
[20:49] <harry__> quit
[20:49] <asger> Tr1n, okay, i'll give it a go
[20:49] <Solaris444> erUSUL:  I do apt-get upgrade, but it says linux-image-server and linux-server held back
[20:49] <tuxxie> Bart6114, wget
[20:49] <Tr1n> asager:  web search, that is
[20:49] <erUSUL> Bart6114: wget can do that... httrack too ?
[20:49] <habibi> i had the sam problem the ubuntu 9.04 the interface graphic not driver for geforce 6200 for ubuntu 9.04 i have you the me problem?
[20:49] <harry__> anyone tell me how to logout from the channel???
[20:49] <erUSUL> Solaris444: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude safe-upgrade
[20:50] <habibi> help me please people
[20:50] <Solaris444> which i have discovered requires dist-upgrade, but I don't WANT to upgrade the distro, just apply security updates to my kernel.
[20:50] <habibi> ?
[20:50] <erUSUL> harry__: /part
[20:50] <harry__> part
[20:50] <Trijntje> !patience|habibi
[20:50] <Bart6114> tuxxie, erUSUL: thx, didn't know that, I'll look in to it right away
[20:50] <Solaris444> hmmm ok. interesting.  thanks erUSUL
[20:50] <harry__> harry_: /part
[20:50] <matreya6> harry__, with the / and append the channel
[20:50] <erUSUL> Solaris444: well if you do dist-upgrade whitout changing sources you wont upgrade to the knew distro
[20:50] <harry__> harry_: /part ubuntu
[20:50] <stefg> Solaris444: security updates are backported to your kernel... you'll never get a newer kernel by dist-upgrade, only the patches for your 8.04 kernel
[20:50] <habibi> ok ubottu me this part the channels #ubuntu thank
[20:51] <habibi> ok ubottu me this part the channels #ubuntu thanks for question
[20:51] <Solaris444> ahh that's what i wanted to know.
[20:51] <Solaris444> thanks stefg
[20:51] <asger> Tr1n, damn. couldn't fint the package, i prob need the specifik name
[20:51] <erUSUL> Solaris444: it only means that aptitude will follow different strategies when upgrading packages
[20:51] <Pici> Solaris444: dist-upgrade only pulls in pacakges that have new dependencies, it doesn't upgrade you to the next release.
[20:51] <Solaris444> thanks guys.  I'll be happy to safely dist-upgrade then.
[20:51] <johnny5_> erUSUL: an admin windows apears and then disapears the program doesn't start
[20:51] <harry__> do anyone tell me how to quit? this is my first visit...
[20:52] <Solaris444> harry, you need to type in /leave
[20:52] <Pici> harry__: Just close the windo or do /quit
[20:52] <freemonttroll> i want to create a symlink foo that links to /home/bar ;  problem is there is a directory named foo where i want the symlink to be.... can i OVERRIDE it so that the symlink can be named foo and link to /home/bar ?
[20:52] <freemonttroll> i want to create a symlink foo that links to /home/bar ;  problem is there is a directory named foo where i want the symlink to be.... can i OVERRIDE it so that the symlink can be named foo and link to /home/bar ?
[20:53] <abandc1> :-D
[20:53] <Tr1n> asager:  my http is down at the moment otherwise I would look for you. I found it on Ubuntu forums, I think.
[20:53] <matreya6> Can anyone help me to install GRUB for Ubuntu Jaunty 64 on a box with 4 HDD's of which 2 are in hardware RAID1 (containing /home) and another disk that is setup as start disk and contains / (root)? Using the alternate installer everything seems to work fine, until I try to reboot... :-(
[20:53] <papapep> gosh, how many trolls/noobs this last days...
[20:53] <erUSUL> johnny5_: tried with « sudo nano /etc/rc.local » ?
[20:53] <jusut> i have got ubuntu using rt2600 for connection to the net...  nm wont connect automatically... just keeps spinning after i have selected the network... then eventually connecting.  spin of death. is there any way i can make ubuntu connect automatically?????
[20:54] <johnny5_> erUSUL: not yet... I'll try...
[20:54] <ExAstris> Hi all. I'm using Madwifi 0.9.4 to replace ath9k, because of ath9k's serious connection dropping issue. However, for some reason, madwifi proves to be extremely slow. I have like 95% packet loss and webpages take forever to load.
[20:54] <ExAstris> Why would this b/
[20:54] <ExAstris> be?*
[20:54] <tuxxie> Bart6114, be careful with the -m option it will mirror the hole site.
[20:55] <johnny5_> erUSUL: /etc/sudoers is owned by uid 33, should be 0
[20:55] <stefg> jusut: afair rt2600 has problems with wpa2 authentication ....
[20:55] <erUSUL> johnny5_: :|
[20:55] <erUSUL> johnny5_: you have a busted sudoers file ?
[20:55] <Pici> freemonttroll: using ln -sf should remove the file if a file in the link's location already exists.  but you should look at the man page and test it elsewhere.
[20:56] <johnny5_> erUSUL: I may have messed it up trying to get permission to it myself
[20:56] <matreya6> johnny5_, next time use visudo
[20:56] <jusut> stefg: thanks for your reply... i will have a go at just wpa?
[20:56] <erUSUL> johnny5_: what have you doe ? changed the permission of that file ? or you did it for more files ?
[20:57] <stefg> jusut: try and see if improves the situation... i remember dealing with a similar problem.... but it's just too long ago
[20:57] <johnny5_> erUSUL: I done it to the etc directory I want access to all my files
[20:57] <erUSUL> johnny5_: o.0!!!!!!!!!!!
[20:57] <Bart6114> tuxxie: ok thanks!
[20:58] <myk_robinson> how do I created a password protected archive with Ubuntu? Found some info online, but it does not seem to be working.
[20:58] <erUSUL> johnny5_: so your install is borked beyond repair... :|
[20:58] <johnny5_>  sudo chown -R www-data:www-data /etc
[20:58] <johnny5_>  is what I did thinking it would work like when I gave myself permission to the www folder
[20:58] <jusut> stefg: are there any interfaces or wpa config files that i shouljd have a loook at??
[20:58] <FloodBot3> johnny5_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:58] <johnny5_> in apache
[20:58] <erUSUL> myk_robinson: only one file ? or a directory ?
[20:58] <johnny5_> sudo chmod -R 775 /etc
[20:58] <johnny5_>  also
[20:59] <erUSUL> johnny5_: you will have to reinstall i'm afraid
[20:59] <jusut> stefg: because i have tried lots of things... obviuosly not in the right order...
[20:59] <myk_robinson> erUSUL: I have one file that I want to place within a .zip and password protect so that in the event the file intercepted by someone other than the intended recipient, it will be a bit more difficult to open
[20:59] <johnny5_> erUSUL: not all of ubunto I hope
[20:59] <johnny5_> *ubuntu
[20:59] <erUSUL> myk_robinson: use gpg
[20:59] <myk_robinson> erUSUL: the person on the other end is a Windows user, if it matters
[21:00] <erUSUL> myk_robinson: gpg -c myfile.zip
[21:00] <erUSUL> myk_robinson: gpg exist for windows...
[21:00] <jusut> what about ndiswrapper???
[21:01] <erUSUL> myk_robinson: seems like the zip command in linux does have a -e switch to encrypt the file
[21:01] <myk_robinson> erUSUL: i did that, it asked for the password to encrypt. however, Windows XP was able to open it without a password.
[21:01] <moboutou> join #ubuntu-fr
[21:01] <moboutou> #join ubuntu-fr
[21:01] <erUSUL> johnny5_: yes all of ubuntu... that's easier than repairing all the permissions of the hundreds files in /etc/
[21:02] <erUSUL> myk_robinson: :! then use gpg... make the other use install wingpg
[21:03] <erUSUL> myk_robinson: http://www.gpg4win.org/
[21:03] <johnny5_> erUSUL: I did it with 1 command?
[21:04] <erUSUL> johnny5_: yep; mass changing file permissions is almost allways the worng answer in linux (specially of things under /etc/ )
[21:05] <johnny5_> erUSUL: I don't have this computer backed up I have things I need.
[21:05] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[21:05] <johnny5_> Does ubuntu install over itself or have a repair mode
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> johnny5_: you could boot to recovery mode and run: sudo apt-get --reinstall instaa ubuntu-desktop
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> johnny5_: no backup = data is disposable
[21:07] <erUSUL> johnny5_: no repair mode as far as i know... clean install
[21:07] <SDFORMAT> hello does anyone know how to format a SD Card to FAT/32 on ubuntu 9.04 please
[21:07] <der_On> solved my problem. It was the Helvetica. I simply deactivated it cause it always used the Narrow-type of Helvetica instead of the regular.
[21:07] <johnny5_> My data is not disposable, I have a game server running...
[21:08] <stefg> johnny5_: everything you need is in /home and /etc ... there is no 'repair-install' mode
[21:08] <erUSUL> stefg: precissaly its /etc/ is what is busted (permissions not data though)
[21:08] <erUSUL> his*
[21:09] <Ademan> plus if he's running a game server he's probably got plent of stuff in /usr or /opt
[21:09] <stefg> johnny5_ , erUSUL : that'S bad.... like deleting the rgistry in windows ...
[21:09] <johnny5_> erUSUL: Can't I just change the permissions to anyone?
[21:09] <asger> i need some help. opera won't play flash content, but with firefox it works. What can be wrong?
[21:09] <SDFORMAT> !sd format SDFORMAT
[21:09] <SDFORMAT> !sdformat SDFORMAT
[21:09] <SDFORMAT> how do you format a sd card
[21:10] <erUSUL> stefg: sudo chmod -R 775 /etc and sudo chown -R www-data:www-data /etc
[21:10] <Ademan> johnny5_: you do NOT want to do that, even if you think you do...
[21:10] <erUSUL> stefg: that is what he runed
[21:10] <stefg> erUSUL: ouch
[21:10] <bucky> don't you want all your configuration file to be world readable and writable by any user?
[21:10] <bucky> then it can be like windows
[21:10] <erUSUL> stefg: so sudo does not work for a start
[21:10] <Ademan> bucky: you had me scared for a second haha
[21:10] <johnny5_> stefg, erUSUL: Reminds me back when I had my dos machine and I was trying to delete a directory for the first time so I decided to delete all the files in it thinking it would disapear including . and .. which was *.com...
[21:11] <Ademan> erUSUL: he can repair this from a liveCD, i haven't the slightest clue what proper permissions would be though, i'd start with root:root though
[21:11] <ActionParsnip> bucky: no as it will be massively unsecure, like windows
[21:12] <johnny5_> erUSUL: will cp still work I can backup everything on a different drive.
[21:12] <bucky> then we could do away with all this pesky sudo business
[21:12] <erUSUL> Ademan: as i said 22:01 < erUSUL> johnny5_: yes all of ubuntu... that's easier than repairing all the permissions of the hundreds files in  /etc/
[21:12] <tripps> how do I find out my version number?
[21:12] <erUSUL> Ademan: a clean reinstall is easier
[21:12] <ActionParsnip> bucky: sudo makes linux more secure
[21:12] <indy_> Evening folks
[21:12] <stefg> johnny5_: my best bet would be doing a backup, reinstall from scratch and check every file that you're going to overwrite for it'S permission beforehand... overwrite with saved cpoy, the chmod to the permissions it had before
[21:12] <geent1> How to hide my IP in XCHAT channels so others can't see my IP'S
[21:13] <bucky> geent1: make a donation to freenode and get a mask
[21:13] <ActionParsnip> bucky: it may be pesky, but if a malicious java or flash command has full access to your system then it can and will run rife copying and changing everything i twants
[21:13] <Ademan> geent1: use a proxy
[21:13] <indy_> need some help with my htpc build
[21:13] <geent1> bucky, aha
[21:13] <ActionParsnip> geent1: take off the tinfoil hat, job done
[21:13] <bucky> geent1: it's cheap
[21:13] <bucky> and worth it
[21:14] <ActionParsnip> hardly
[21:14] <johnny5_> stefg: I can isolate the directories to the webserver which isn't much and my eclipse workspace and MySQL databases should be enough..
[21:14] <geent1> ActionParsnip, how to take off the tinfoil hat
[21:14] <ActionParsnip> geent1: realise that no one cares and stop being so paranoid
[21:14] <indy_> i'm having trouble getting the nvidia drivers in ubuntu to scale the resolution so it fits my plasma TV
[21:14] <erUSUL> !version | tripps
[21:14] <Gumby> hi all,  I am looking for a calendar sharing service to install on a ubuntu server.  It has to be able to share multiple calendars in an office.  anyone have any recommendations?  Ive briefly looked into opengroupware but the projects community seems rather sparse
[21:14] <indy_> can somebody help me with this?
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> indy_: have you ran: gksudo nvidia-settings
[21:15] <bucky> ActionParsnip: then he can get five people to tell him how to chown -R andy.andy /etc
[21:15] <indy_> yes
[21:15] <tripps> erUSUL, thanks!
[21:15] <johnny5_> Is there an undo program I can install so I don't have to go through this again if I mess up
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> bucky: that needs sudo
[21:15] <indy_> problem is i get the 1360x768 res, but it's off the screen
[21:15] <Pici> geent1,bucky: No need to donate to freenode, just join #freenode ask ask for a cloak.
[21:15] <tripps> why doesn't ubuntu put the version number in System ->About like every other OS/software package on the planet . . . ;)
[21:16] <stefg> !backuo | johnny5_
[21:16] <stefg> !backup | johnny5_
[21:16] <ActionParsnip> tripps: you can get in with:  lsb_release -a
[21:16] <indy_> i'm sure it must be the driver 'cause windows nvidia driver is ok
[21:16] <ActionParsnip> indy_: its not the driver, its the settings
[21:16] <bucky> Pici: you're right.. don't give them any money, they can get all their funding from Canonical and turn this whole server into irc.ubuntu.com
[21:16] <ActionParsnip> indy_: the same company makes the windows drivers as makes the linux driver
[21:17] <indy_> ok
[21:17] <stefg> johnny5_: since you're going to need backups anyway let me recommend rdiff-backup
[21:17] <tripps> I'm getting upgrade fetch of package 404 failures - running hardy heron. software sources all appear to be correct. Also cannot upgrade to 9.04. ideas?
[21:17] <indy_> what can i do to resolve this please?
[21:17] <ActionParsnip> indy_: you will need to fight xorg.conf if nvidia-settings won't play nice
[21:17] <bucky> tripps: they changed the repos for that a long time ago
[21:18] <indy_> i don't mind that but i don't know what i'm looking for
[21:18] <Flannel> bucky: No, they didn't.
[21:18] <tripps> bucky, this machine was in storage for a couple of months. Where should I point everything?
[21:18] <stefg> tripps: use a working dns server ?
[21:18] <ActionParsnip> indy_: well you'll need to set the res, as well as the refresh rates for the screen
[21:18] <bucky> Flannel: yes they did for *Heron*
[21:18] <Flannel> bucky: No, 8.04 is LTS.
[21:18] <tripps> stefg, dns is fine
[21:19] <indy_> but i already get the res...it's just it won't fit on the 42" screen
[21:19] <tripps> also getting random "cannot copy xauthorization file" messages while trying to get this machine upgraded
[21:19] <indy_> i've already made as much adjustment i can using the tv controls
[21:19] <Flannel> tripps: Your repos should be fine.  Can you pastebin the output of 'sudo apt-get update'?  Also, yuo can't upgrade directly to 9.04, you have to upgrade through 8.10
[21:20] <ActionParsnip> indy_: thats all i can suggest, you just gotta battle it out, make sure you mess with the refresh rates in the monitor section as wee as the settings for screen and diplay adapter
[21:20] <tripps> Flannel, http://pastebin.ca/1511441
[21:21] <indy_> ok
[21:21] <indy_> thanks for your help
[21:21] <indy_> i will go and try
[21:21] <indy_> bye for now
[21:22] <ActionParsnip> tripps: line 2 and 29 are identical
[21:22] <Flannel> tripps: I don't see any 404 errors there.
[21:22] <ActionParsnip> tripps: in your sources.lst file you have 2 entrys for: http://archive.canonical.com intrepid/partner
[21:23] <ActionParsnip> tripps: which is why you are getting the error
[21:24] <ActionParsnip> !hcl
[21:24] <Flannel> !upgrade | tripps, this page will tell you how to upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10 (and then to 9.04)
[21:27] <JuJuBee> If I want to blacklist visor.ko module where do I do that?
[21:28] <Jlone> every time i start to update ubuntu through the update manager, the download speed starts off around 70kb/s
[21:28] <Jlone> and then it will maybe be like that for about 3 seconds
[21:29] <Jlone> and it jumps down to 3000 ish b/s
[21:29] <Jlone> anyone have this happening as well?
[21:29] <StupidWeasel> You may wish to try a different mirror
[21:30] <sixdraw> Hi all. I've got a major problem. My CPU has been overheating somewhat the last nfew weeks so I oppened up my case to have a look. When I removed the heatsink I realised that the processor was stuck to the bottom with that thermal compound stuff holding it on, and some of the pins had bent. I straightened out the pins and cleaned the thermal compound off but now my pc starts for about half a second
[21:30] <ingcomrbr> Hi there..
[21:30] <sixdraw> Do you think I need to get a new motherboard and cpu or just get more of that thermal compound
[21:30] <ingcomrbr> I had a problem booting mu server..
[21:31] <sixdraw> Its an athlon 3200+ and all the pins are straight again and sloting in correctly
[21:31] <tripps> i'm getting these messages "failed to run synaptic <bunch of args> as user root. Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file."
[21:32] <ingcomrbr> I installed or updated the server with the kerlen 2.6.28-14 and rebooted, when server back it show me error 13 invalid or unsupported executable format
[21:32] <ingcomrbr> I don't got Windows.. only Ubuntu..
[21:32] <sixdraw> tripps the command you're giving is sudo synaptic?
[21:32] <arvid> is there a good way to setup a system wide proxy on linux (ubuntu)? I'm looking for a proxy below the application layer so applications doesn't have to support it
[21:33] <ingcomrbr> I had to choose last kernel
[21:33] <ingcomrbr> to enter..
[21:33] <sixdraw> tripps MAKE SURE YOU DONT HAVE ANOTHER PACKAGE INSTALLER OPEN
[21:33] <ingcomrbr> I had something worng?
[21:34] <tripps> sixdraw, just doing update from task bar.
[21:34] <sixdraw> tripps yeah you have to wait for that to finish first
[21:35] <olof_> untu-devel
[21:35] <ali1234> how can i unpack an rpm on ubuntu? 'rpm2cpio file.rpm | cpio -idv' does not work
[21:36] <tripps> sixdraw, i've killed the process and windows. what do I need to kill, lockfile I need to delete, etc., so I can  start over
[21:37] <genii> ali1234: Firstly you should use .deb files when possible and not .rpm . But that aside the app Alien can be used to convert them
[21:37] <puppy> hello?
[21:37] <ali1234> genii: i dont care about converting or installing, i just want the file out of the rpm
[21:37] <genii> ali1234: If you convert it to .deb then you can use ar -x debname.deb
[21:38] <puppy> Oh cool. Can one of you guys help me out?
[21:38] <sixdraw> tripps type alt F4
[21:38] <tripps> sixdraw, yeah don't need help doing that - ps axuw | grep up shows no running processes. however still getting xauthorization file errors. is there a lockfile I need to delete?
[21:38] <ali1234> genii: and how do i use alien? it wants to run as root?
[21:38] <bucky> !ask | puppy
[21:39] <sixdraw> tripps are there and processes listed as sudo
[21:39] <ali1234> genii: Unpacking of 'dvb-firmware-pack-0.1.1-1mapi2009.0.i586.rpm' failed at /usr/share/perl5/Alien/Package/Rpm.pm line 155.
[21:39] <ali1234> genii: that's what alien said
[21:39] <tripps> sixdraw, no
[21:40] <sixdraw> tripps im not sure what the exact process will be, but i know the update will lock you out of synaptic
[21:40] <puppy> I am having issues with my resolution. i have installed my video car drivers but i cant seem to get it off of the preset. how do i fix this?
[21:40] <genii> ali1234: alien --to-deb rmpfilename.rpm      is the usual method to convert them
[21:40] <DE> how can I declutter linux? it's loading slower than usual
[21:40] <poseidon> Does anyone have experience with smtp authentication?
[21:40] <ali1234> genii: yep, also fails
[21:41] <tripps> sixdraw, killed syn, killed update. nothing happening at all now. THEN, when trying to update, get xauthorization error
[21:41] <ali1234> genii: but rpm can list the contents
[21:41] <sixdraw> anywyas does anybody have any resolutions for my CPU/motherboard problem
[21:41] <genii> ali1234: Sounds like it may be a badly-formed file internally
[21:41] <sixdraw> I've narrowed it down to that by removing everything else
[21:41] <Trijntje> DE: do you mean defragging?
[21:42] <DE> Trijntje, something like that. I just want to make things work faster. It's been very slow recently
[21:42] <Trijntje> !defrag|DE
[21:42] <nat2610> I have a usb ethernet adapter and it works perfectly out of the box on a ubuntu but not on an older redhat. I'd like to know which driver is used for it on ubuntu, How can I know that ?
 well if you have compiz enabled and desktop cube etc. it can really slow down a lower spe system
[21:42] <Trijntje> DE: so i think the slowing is caused by something else
[21:42] <JPSman> what is the next name for 9.10?
[21:43] <AndrewGearhart_> hey folks, are there any recommended video cards for doing multiple monitors with hardware acceleration? Right now I'm just looking at a dual monitor situation w/ the desktop extended across both monitors. Monitors run at 1440x900
[21:43] <JPSman> and when was the last LTS?
[21:43] <DE> sixdraw, nope, don't have those enabled
[21:43] <DE> I am using ubuntu 9.04 with ext4
[21:44] <ubuntistas> how can i install flash player for flock any clue?
[21:44] <JPSman> AndrewGearhart - well this user has had good experience with nvidia, but I dont know if there are better cards out there
[21:44] <ali1234> genii: alien is just calling out to rpm2cpio, which is broken
[21:44] <ubuntistas> adobe flash player is not supported and it's not installing in jaunty
[21:45] <AndrewGearhart_> JPSman: I'm trying to find something that is going to have enough juice to be able to do things like Cairo, Beryl... etc.
[21:45] <Travis-42> I have a short script in cron.daily that doesn't seem to run daily even though it runs fine from the command line.  what could be wrong?
[21:45] <tripps> ok this is getting ridiculous. did rm ~/.Xauthority; sudo touch ~/.Xauthority && sudo chown $LOGNAME  ~/.Xauthority && sudo chmod 775 ~/.Xauthority and reinitiated update. Still getting "cannot copy user's xauthorization file"
[21:46] <genii> ali1234: rpm2cpio is a component of package named rpm. Does result of apt-cache policy rpm  show latest version installed which is available?
[21:46] <ali1234> genii: the rpm is corrupt
[21:46] <Guest71601> #ubuntu-tr
[21:46] <puppy> I am having issues with the resolution on my computer after upgrading to the 8.02 setup. How do i resolve the issue?
[21:46] <ali1234> genii: i just installed rpm specifically to unpack this file, so it should be
[21:46] <genii> Guest71601: /join #ubuntu-tr
[21:46] <bucky> puppy sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[21:46] <sixdraw> okay a more specific question. Will an AMD 3200+ work without thermal compound between the heat sink and processor?
[21:47] <nightrid3r> sixdraw nope
[21:47] <sixdraw> nightrid3r, why's that?
[21:47] <ubuntistas> how can i install flash player for flock any clue?
[21:47] <erUSUL> sixdraw: #hardware
[21:47] <tripps> what's the command line way to update all available update files?
[21:48] <nightrid3r> sixdraw the termal compound helps keep your proc cool, it will burn without it
[21:48] <tripps> sudo apt-get update all? or something?
[21:48] <erUSUL> tripps: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude safe-upgrade ?
[21:48] <sixdraw> nightrid3r but it will boot up for a while before it crashes?
[21:48] <sixdraw> nightrid3r, or will it fail to boot at all
[21:49] <nightrid3r> sixdraw burn, like in totaly destroyed
[21:50] <coz_> tripps,  what are you trying to do?
[21:50] <tripps> erUSUL, it won't try to upgrade the distribution, right? i just want the updated files for heron
[21:50] <tripps> coz_, just trying to update my damn ubuntu box ;)
[21:50] <Nerva> sudo apt-get update i believe
[21:50] <Nerva> it goes through and checks for updates
[21:50] <coz_> tripps,   if you do sudo apt-get update  then   sudo apt-get dist-upgrade  that should do it
[21:50] <erUSUL> tripps: right; it will only get the security updates
[21:50] <coz_> tripps,  the dist-upgrade will not install a new version
[21:50] <blubawitz> does any one know is i should use the native ubuntu rt2600 driver for a belkin rt2600 pci or should i use nDiswrapper and the driver on te disk??
[21:51] <DE> how can I image my ubuntu 9.04 ext4 partition?
[21:51] <tripps> let me be more specific. just want to apply updates available, NOT distribution upgrade (i.e., go to 9.x)
[21:51] <tripps> coz_, ok cool
[21:51] <BigMao> Random question, after editing /etc/group, how do I "refresh" the information? I added myself to a group in order to get some permissions, but I still don't have the permissions for some reason.
[21:51] <nightrid3r> blubawitz ralink is well suported on ubuntu
[21:51] <sixdraw> nightrid3r thanks
[21:51] <erUSUL> BigMao: relogin
[21:51] <Jlone> how do i change the mirror for the update manager
[21:52] <Jlone> ?
[21:52] <BigMao> erUSUL, do I have to log out of X, or just open another terminal?
[21:52] <coz_> tripps, upgrade is used to install the newest versions of all packages currently installed on the system
[21:52] <coz_> tripps,   dist-upgrade, in addition to performing the function of upgrade, also intelligently handles changing dependencies with new versions of packages"
[21:52] <tripps> coz_, gotcha
[21:52] <erUSUL> BigMao: also editing the file directly is not the best option... jus « sudo adduser $USER groupname »
[21:52] <erUSUL> BigMao: the former
[21:52] <BigMao> erUSUL, thanks :) I didn't know I could do that
[21:52] <tripps> coz_, curious then - what is the command line to actually do a distro upgrade?
[21:52] <nat2610> I have a usb ethernet adapter and it works perfectly out of the box on a ubuntu but not on an older redhat. I'd like to know which driver is used for it on ubuntu, How can I know that ?
[21:52] <BigMao> I guess I'll log out, it's no big deal
[21:52] <Jlone> StupidWeasel: How do I change the mirror for the Update Manager?
[21:53] <erUSUL> Jlone: System>Admin>Software sources
[21:53] <coz_> tripps,   that would be   sudo update-manager -d
[21:53] <tripps> coz_, cool. appreciate your help!
[21:53] <coz_> tripps,   no problem :)
[21:54] <ubuntistas> http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/vivian.chantzaridou?__a=1
[21:54] <ubuntistas> false
[21:54] <ubuntistas> lol
[21:55] <ubuntistas> how can i install flash player for flock any clue?
[21:55] <Jlone> thank you erUSUL
[21:55] <erUSUL> Jlone: no problem
[21:55] <DE> ubuntistas, why would you post a facebook link?
[21:56] <ubuntistas> i just did an incorrect paste dude
[21:56] <DE> oh lol
[21:56] <jrib> ubuntistas: flock uses gecko or?
[21:57] <stovicek> ubuntistas: how about this: http://helpforlinux.blogspot.com/2008/12/get-flash-working-in-flock-browser-in.html
[21:57] <magical_walrus> How can I move files between Ubuntu and installtion of Windows on VirtualBox?
[21:57] <jrib> magical_walrus: try #vbox (also the official documentation explains iirc)
[21:58] <magical_walrus> Oh
[21:58] <stovicek> ubuntistas: or this http://deekayen.net/install-flash-flock-25-ubuntu-jaunty
[21:58] <laeg> which is more correct, compiling a program and putting it in /opt, /bin or /usr/bin?
[21:59] <DE> anyone know how to image ubuntu 9.04 and windows xp because I dual-boot them?
[21:59] <gunsmoke> it's only channel here
[21:59] <jrib> laeg: none of those!  You should probably just use /usr/local/.  I keep /opt for stuff that doesn't have a unix structure
[21:59] <erUSUL> DE: partimage ? clonezilla ?
[22:00] <jrib> gunsmoke: what?
[22:00] <DE> erUSUL, do I image both or just image ubuntu and it'll automatically image Windows xp as well?
[22:01] <erUSUL> DE:  ?
[22:01] <JuJuBee> How do I blacklist (what is proper way) a module in jaunty?
[22:01] <thiebaude> laeg, usally programs are in /usr/bin
[22:01] <jrib> !blacklist | JuJuBee
[22:01] <syslq78> After I installed kernel image, can I just adjust grub to boot it?
[22:01] <jrib> syslq78: if you are using the repositories, that should have been done automatically
[22:02] <laeg> jrib, thieebaude, it's something i'm make installing myself, not from synaptic if that changes anything?
[22:02] <jrib> laeg: /usr/local/
[22:02] <syslq78> jrib, it was not (I updated it trough ubuntu updates)
[22:02] <JuJuBee> jrib: I don't have that file, should I just create it?
[22:02] <syslq78> jrib, it was installed ok btw
[22:02] <laeg> jrib: ty
[22:02] <DE> erUSUL, how would I start?
[22:02] <Axchw> ave
[22:02] <jrib> JuJuBee: see what's there there might be a .conf missing or something
[22:02] <laeg> does anyone know the factoid for the ubuntu directory structure and explanation of nomenclature?
[22:02] <thiebaude> laeg, ok, i dont know anything about compiling programs
[22:03] <laeg> thiebaude: kk nps ty
[22:03] <erUSUL> DE: there is a partimage livecd... clonezilla has livecd's too
[22:03] <jrib> syslq78: something went wrong then
[22:03] <erUSUL> !lsb
[22:03] <JuJuBee> jrib: there is a blacklist.conf file
[22:03] <thiebaude> laeg, np, i wish i did know how to make my programs
[22:03] <syslq78> jrib, any ideas? System works perfectly otherwise
[22:03] <erUSUL> !lfhs
[22:03] <DE> erUSUL, does clonezilla support ext4?
[22:03] <jrib> !compile > thiebaude
[22:03] <erUSUL> DE: dunno
[22:03] <Antaranian> hi there
[22:04] <jrib> JuJuBee: check it out
[22:04] <thiebaude> !compile
[22:04] <thiebaude> i dont have the pm feature
[22:04] <JuJuBee> K thanks
[22:04] <Antaranian> I want to see KDE like bouncing icons near cursor in my ubuntu
[22:04] <jrib> JuJuBee: you can use that file or create your own, it doesn't matter.  Just organize it as you wish
[22:04] <Antaranian> can anyone here help me
[22:04] <Antaranian> ?
[22:04] <JuJuBee> Does it need to have a .conf after it or not?
[22:04] <fosa> in the synaptic package manager, does green mean installed?
[22:05] <jrib> JuJuBee: try both ways :)
[22:05] <JuJuBee> K
[22:05] <thiebaude> Antaranian, what was your question?
[22:05] <erUSUL> fosa: yes
[22:05] <jrib> syslq78: pastebin relevant information I guess (apt-cache policy LINUX_IMAGE_PACKAGE; cat /boot/grub/menu.lst)
[22:05] <Antaranian> in kde, when you're running application, app's icon starts top bounce near cursor
[22:06] <Antaranian> thiebaude: in kde, when you're running application, app's icon starts top bounce near cursor
[22:06] <fosa> erUSUL, :)
[22:06] <thiebaude> Antaranian, im not familiar with kde,sorry
[22:06] <Antaranian> thiebaude: ok, thanks :)
[22:06] <thiebaude> Antaranian, np
[22:06] <Antaranian> anyone here used kde ?
[22:07] <JRSmile> moin
[22:07] <JRSmile> did once
[22:07] <Antaranian> JRSmile: it was to me ?
[22:07] <JRSmile> yes
[22:08] <burris> how do I turn off strong password checking (i.e. passwd won't reject "bad" or "simple" passwords)?  I looked in /etc/pam.d/passwd and didn't find anything beyond @include password-common ...  I also tried googling but had no luck... and please don't try to convince me not to do this or that it's a bad idea
[22:08] <Antaranian> JRSmile: ok, you remember bouncing icons near cursor when loading application ?
[22:08] <ubuntistas> how can i enable user sharing?
[22:08] <JRSmile> sure
[22:08] <jrib> ubuntistas: user sharing of what?
[22:08] <thiebaude> burris, never heard of that feature and been using ubuntu for 4yrs
[22:09] <Antaranian> JRSmile: I missed that function in my gnome :)
[22:09] <burris> thiebaude, I'm using the passwd command line program
[22:09] <Antaranian> JRSmile: maybe you know how to implement it ?
[22:09] <thiebaude> burris, k
[22:09] <JRSmile> unfortunately as you may have noticed it is build in kde itself, there is a windows port but i don't have seen it for gnome yet.
[22:10] <JRSmile> sry
[22:10] <ubuntistas> it says to terminal to enable system administrative sharing jrib
[22:10] <jrib> ubuntistas: what is "it"?  What says?
[22:10] <Antaranian> JRSmile: ist sad :(
[22:11] <Antaranian> JRSmile: thank you
[22:11] <JRSmile> no problemo
[22:11] <burris> duhh, common-password is another file in pam.d that has a lot of options in it
[22:11] <DE> Do you guys prefer clonezilla or partimage?
[22:11] <ubuntistas> Please ask your system administrator to enable user sharing. jrib
[22:12] <mechtech> in transmission, what does this message mean?: We have unchoked this peer, but they are not interested
[22:12] <jrib> ubuntistas: pastebin the message in its entirety please
[22:12] <jrib> !pastebin | ubuntistas
[22:12] <magical_walrus> How can I move files between Ubuntu and installtion of Windows on VirtualBox? (No one is responding on #vbox
[22:12] <jrib> magical_walrus: did you check the vbox official documentation?
[22:12] <mechtech> magicartualboxl_walrus: you must set up file sharing on vi
[22:12] <JRSmile> @magical you can always use network shares.
[22:12] <audifahrer> After an apt-get update ubuntu 8.10 overwrote my hand installed ati driver. Now I reinstalled the ATI driver from the ATI website but XV is no longer working: http://nopaste.org/p/aW3uSvhepb
[22:13] <magical_walrus> jrib: Where is that?
[22:13] <jrib> mechtech: here you go... http://www.virtualbox.org/manual/UserManual.html#sharedfolders
[22:13] <audifahrer> But OpenGL and video with -vo gl is working. Any ideas why? I have a ATI Technologies Inc M22 [Mobility Radeon X300].
[22:13] <mechtech> magical_walrus, you must set up file sharing on virtualbox
[22:13] <zenergi> If you have a raid5 in a degraded state with the addition of filesystem errors, is is safer to let users backup data before the rebuild, or to put the system on ice until a rebuild is complete? Also, what would be the best time to run fsck on this volume?
[22:13] <syslq78> What is aptitude alternative to apt-cache policy?
[22:13] <jrib> syslq78: use apt-cache policy
[22:13] <rek> i don't see my usb
[22:13] <magical_walrus> JRSmile: I'm not sure how
[22:13] <rek> i'm usin kde
[22:13] <mechtech> jrib: I'm not using virtualbox, magical_walrus is
[22:13] <spO> is ther e help channel for beginners?
[22:13] <erUSUL> syslq78: none afaics
[22:13] <jrib> magical_walrus: here you go... http://www.virtualbox.org/manual/UserManual.html#sharedfolders
[22:14] <magical_walrus> jrib: Thanks
[22:14] <jrib> spO: this one
[22:14] <spO> how do i change root's password so i can do a su -
[22:14] <jrib> !root | spO
[22:14] <JRSmile> just use windows shares as you would if you wold have it installed nativly without vm, linux then can use thesmb-cient package to mount theese shares as normal drives.
[22:14] <syslq78> jrib, btw it's fine, I think some update setting default is fscked since I was asked what to do about grub entry after updating kernel image and I clicked without reading. I'll edit by hand and read next time
[22:14] <ingcomrbr> I had a problem booting mu server..
[22:14] <ingcomrbr> I installed or updated the server with the kerlen 2.6.28-14 and rebooted, when server back it show me error 13 invalid or unsupported executable format
[22:14] <ingcomrbr> I don't got Windows.. only Ubuntu..
[22:14] <ingcomrbr> I had something worng?
[22:15] <FloodBot3> ingcomrbr: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:15] <spO> root doesn't have a password anymore? i am trygint to set one up
[22:15] <mechtech> is there a transmission room?
[22:15] <spO> i installed ubuntu server and it doesn't even have the nice easy to use desktop/gui environemnt when i load it
[22:15] <magical_walrus> JRSMile: I don't see a smb-client package, and I've installed samba and samba4 already
[22:16] <ingcomrbr> FloodBot3. what? Is this the mistake on my servber?
[22:16] <DrMrHorse> sp0: you can start a root shell from a user with sudo access by putting  sudo -i  into a terminal
[22:16] <jrib> spO: did you read the link ubottu gave you?  You should use sudo instead.  If you want a gui, install one :)
[22:16] <mechtech> !transmission
[22:16] <spO> what about setting a root password, how come i cannot do that
[22:16] <JRSmile> should work if yoi can do a mount -t cifs or have the smbmount command ready.
[22:16] <bucky> magical_walrus: it's smbclient with no dash
[22:17] <magical_walrus> bucky: Oh, thanks
[22:17] <bucky> magical_walrus: apt-cache search smb |grep client
[22:17] <mechtech> bucky: do you know about transmission?
[22:17] <magical_walrus> bucky: Does it have a GUI?
[22:17] <sebsebseb> !root | spO
[22:17] <sebsebseb> !noroot | spO
[22:17] <JRSmile> gnomes filemanager nautilus has a gui for it.
[22:17] <DrMrHorse> !wfm
[22:18] <DrMrHorse> w/e
[22:18] <ubuntistas> usr/lib/firefox/plugins i used this stovicek but i caanot find the package for the flash player
[22:18] <spO> can anyone do a sudo -i ?
[22:18] <jrib> spO: you can do it, it's just not necessary
[22:18] <bucky> magical_walrus: swat is the web based configuration tool.. google for some ubuntu docs on how to do it right
[22:18] <DrMrHorse> they hinder logging in as root because people have historically messed it up too much
[22:18] <rek> i don't see my usb
[22:18] <rek> i'm usin kde
[22:18] <n00b101> how would you record logons, passwords, software licenses and security access for users on a small windows network?
[22:18] <spO> can you guys do a sudo -i or only a few people?
[22:18] <jrib> spO: no, only people with sudo privileges.  By default any user in the "admin" group can.  Only the first user created is a member of the "admin" group by default
[22:18] <Cube> hey, is there a channel or a group for ubuntu (or gnome) UI designers?
[22:19] <rek> sp0 and all the chan i don't see my usb cube jrib n00b101
[22:19] <Cube> rek: lol
[22:19] <rek> Cube
[22:19] <Cube> rek: did you connect it to the computer?
[22:19] <mechtech> sp0: why do you want root access for a whole session? The priviledges are set up to try to prevent you from hosing your machine by accident
[22:19] <rek> i've tried to mount it
[22:19] <rek> yes
[22:19] <DrMrHorse> sp0: i got here late, what are you trying to do with logging in as root?
[22:19] <spO> i installed xinit, and now i try to do a startx and it does not work, it says no file or some other stuff, what else do i have to install besides xinit?
[22:19] <Cube> rek: did you mount it?
[22:19] <rek> yes with the terminal
[22:19] <bucky> mechtech i've never used transmission but there are a lot of how tos on the internet
[22:19] <MrPenguin> sudo su    :-)
[22:19] <jrib> spO: just install the package for the window manager you want.  It should pull in anything you need
[22:20] <ubuntistas> http://deekayen.net/install-flash-flock-25-ubuntu-jaunty any clue how to do that?
[22:20] <mechtech> bucky: thanks
[22:20] <Cube> rek: you dont see your usb? maybe you should try wearing glasses. or do you mean your computer doesn't see the usb?
[22:20] <MrPenguin> sudo passwd to set root pwd
[22:20] <bucky> mechtech: did you install from the repos?
[22:20] <stovicek> ubuntistas: mkdir ~/.flock/plugins ...download flash from adobe, extract the libflashplayer.so and place it in the new plugins folder. I just did it within the last few minutes, works fine.
[22:20] <bucky> should be easy
[22:20] <jrib> !noroot | MrPenguin
[22:20] <spO> loggin in as root allows other login users who use the who command to fear what they are doing
[22:20] <rek> i don't find it in mnt
[22:20] <Cube> rek: xD
[22:20] <MrPenguin> sorry .. i don have one set either but he seemd to want to know how to do it
[22:20] <mechtech> bucky: nope...came installed on my machine as default torrent client
[22:20] <Cube> rek: hmm so if you fire up nautilus ir doesnt show up?
[22:20] <rek> i've created the folder manually
[22:20] <Cube> hey, is there a channel or a group for ubuntu (or gnome) UI designers?
[22:20] <ubuntistas> stovicek complicated explain
[22:21] <rek> what's the tool for automount works with gnome ?
[22:21] <CopyWriter> success!
[22:21] <rek> with gnome it works with kde no
[22:21] <jrib> ubuntistas: What do you mean?  That page just gives you a command to run
[22:21] <Cube> rek: a good reason to switch right there
[22:21] <bucky> mechtech: that's cool.. some people really like it but you can apt get a lot of other clients
[22:21] <spO> i installed xinit, what else do i install to get xwin working?  maybe i ought to install the desktop edition instead of server edition
[22:21] <rek> no cube
[22:21] <rek> wanna mount it now
[22:21] <jrib> spO: why did you install the server edition?
[22:22] <spO> jrib, becasue this is a server box
[22:22] <spO> a file server box for one at least
[22:22] <DrMrHorse> my hardy won't boot.  jaunty on another partition works fine. in recovery, the crawl stops at the reference to the cd-rom drive. i can read, write, and fsck the partition that hardy is (or was) on. any help?
[22:22] <Cube> rek: lol ok
[22:22] <spO> it is my htpc box and hosues all my movies
[22:22] <Cube> rek: what did you type into the terminal
[22:22] <jrib> spO: then why do you need a gui :)  Just install ubuntu-desktop if you want all of the stuff that's on the regular ubuntu
[22:22] <ubuntistas> how do i put the flash player of firefox to the folder of flock plugins it' complicated i cannot find it jrib
[22:22] <rek> sudo
[22:22] <jrib> ubuntistas: run the ln -s command given to you on that page
[22:23] <mechtech> bucky: it's ok, I just have a question about a message from transmission...it said: we have unchoked the connection to this peer, but they do not care...you know what this means?
[22:23] <stovicek> ubuntistas: 1) get flash from adobe: http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/ 2) download the Linux .tar.gz 3) extract the libflashplayer.so from the .tar.gz file 4) move it to ~/.flock/plugins/ 5) launch/restart flock 6) enjoy
[22:23] <rek> cube sudo modprobe usb-storage
[22:23] <spO> in order to get my ubuntu server edition to run xwin , do i have to recompile a new kernel?
[22:23] <jrib> spO: no.
[22:23] <rek> sudo mkdir /mnt/usb
[22:23] <spO> then, i would like to take steps to add the desktop features to my server box
[22:23] <spO> such as adding xwin
[22:23] <rek> cube sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/usb
[22:24] <Cube> rek: aah
[22:24] <jrib> spO: I already told you two ways to do it, you aren't listening
[22:24] <jrib> !who | spO
[22:24] <Cube> rek: reboot
[22:24] <rek> sure?
[22:24] <abbazabba> i'm back again.. is there any way to install a flash plugin for x64?
[22:24] <CopyWriter> i want to migrate my office pc's to ubuntu, everything linux
[22:24] <rek> ok but why
[22:24] <spO> jrib, you told me to install desktop version instead of server edition
[22:24] <archman> hello
[22:24] <jrib> spO: no, I didn't
[22:24] <spO> jrib, but i want it to be a mixture of the two
[22:24] <CopyWriter> i got 93 desktops and 2 win 2003 server
[22:24] <jrib> spO: ubuntu-desktop is a package you install
[22:24] <CopyWriter> thing is i'm stumped
[22:24] <yigal> I've set my APT policy to always install recommends but I get a huge list of software that is to be autoremoved, software that I don't want removed.  Any suggestions for how eliminate this list so if I do a 'apt-get autoremove' these packages won't be removed? thank you
[22:24] <DrMrHorse> sp0: ubuntu-desktop is a package. do sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop
[22:25] <spO> oh
[22:25] <spO> thanks
[22:25] <DrMrHorse> np
[22:25] <mechtech> bucky: any idea?
[22:25] <jrib> archman: sure, just install flashplugin-nonfree from the multiverse repository.  That will get you 32bit flash running with a wrapper.  If instead you want the alpha 64bit plugin from adobe, download the tar.gz from adobe's site and drop libflashplayer.so in ~/.mozilla/plugins/
[22:25] <DrMrHorse> theres also a trick to get a gui with root too, in addition to any legit ways of getting there
[22:26] <archman> jrib, wrong target :D
[22:26] <archman> ;)
[22:26] <jrib> abbazabba: sure, just install flashplugin-nonfree from the multiverse repository.  That will get you 32bit flash running with a wrapper.  If instead you want the alpha 64bit plugin from adobe, download the tar.gz from adobe's site and drop libflashplayer.so in ~/.mozilla/plugins/
[22:26] <jrib> archman: ugh, sorry
[22:26] <spO> what is the differnece betweenn a virtual package and a non virtual package in aptitude?
[22:27] <dimension128> I have gone through as many applicable possible fixes as I could find on the net, I have no idea what to try next. My mic used to work with a previous version of ubuntu, and I believe it even worked with rc's - But now it does not work at all. It is a built in mic on a laptop. I am on 9.04 64bit (2.6.28-14-generic), my laptop is a | HP Pavilion dv7-1245dx |.   All of my sound information can be found at this url: http://www.alsa-proje
[22:27] <dimension128> ct.org/db/?f=83318124dc6e02bb6c306080399faf20cb06243c   -   If anyone thinks they can help, or even give me a simple suggestion pm me. Thank you.
[22:27] <FloodBot3> dimension128: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:27] <dimension128> ? that was just one line sorry.
[22:27] <archman> btw, my friend is in a live cd ubuntu now trying to remove the old ubuntu partition where the installation was. that partitions are having this "key" sign, but the "unmount" option is greyed out. what to do to unmount em and remove em??
[22:27] <rek> cube i don't see it
[22:27] <archman> thanks, btw
[22:28] <mechtech> why did this guy say this to me: <DE> stfu already
 stop pirating shit
[22:28] <thiebaude> !language
[22:28] <jrib> mechtech: if it didn't happen in the channel, just /ignore
[22:28] <bucky> mechtech: this is how unchoking is done.. but it sounds like some quality of service issue with your isp to me http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitTyrant#Strategic_peer_selection_-_an_analogy
[22:28] <DrMrHorse> or even if it did
[22:29] <spO> in aptitude, how do i do a search? i see it on the menu, but i do not know how to get to that menu
[22:29] <mechtech> jrib: ok...do you know what stfu means?
[22:29] <yigal> so anyone know how to change autoinstalled packages to manually installed batch wise?
[22:29] <dimension128> Did my first message show up for everyone? or did the flooodbot make it not show up? Just checking.
[22:29] <jrib> mechtech: it means "be quiet" in a rude way
[22:29] <PuresGift> hi,i just loaded ubuntu 9 a few minutes ago and extracted the iso with winrar.my question is : can i install it with the .exe just like i would do with a new partition+cd or is it just like a vm when i install it through the .exe on my windows desktop?
[22:29] <rio-jl>  y'a quelquun
[22:29] <jrib> dimension128: it still shows up
[22:29] <dimension128> k ty
[22:29] <thiebaude> mechtech, by cursing
[22:29] <DrMrHorse> sp0: sudo apt-cache search <search terms>
[22:30] <rio-jl> en francais
[22:30] <erUSUL> !fr | rio-jl
[22:30] <spO> drmr, what about within the gui program of aptitude
[22:30] <mechtech> how rude...first he pms me without so much as a by your leave, then cusses at me...really nice
[22:30] <spO> oh i see now
[22:30] <spO> it is control t
[22:30] <archman> anyone, please? :(
[22:30] <DrMrHorse> sp0: i dont know, i dont use it
[22:31] <mechtech> there he is again!
[22:31] <DrMrHorse> ctrl-t from the aptitude quasi-gui?
[22:31] <jrib> mechtech: /ignore DE
[22:31] <thiebaude> mechtech, dont answer him
[22:31] <coz_> archman,  sorry didnt see your post
[22:31] <spO> drmrhorse, you simply type  aptitude and it will show you the gui version
[22:31] <coz_> archman,  what is the issue?
[22:31] <DrMrHorse> yeah, but to search is ctrl-t?
[22:31] <spO> control t is to access the pull down menu
[22:32] <mechtech> jrib: can I pm you?
[22:32] <archman> coz_ read above please? or can i paste it?
[22:32] <jrib> mechtech: sure
[22:32] <DrMrHorse> n/m i found out for myself about the aptitude thing
[22:32] <spO> forward slash /  will allow you to search for osmething
[22:32] <archman> coz_ two mins ago
[22:32] <DE> What? Why is my nick popping up?
[22:32] <DrMrHorse> lol
[22:32] <syslq78> jrib, I fount the problem, update-grub finds everything correctly but does not edit the file
[22:32] <jrib> syslq78: weird, why not?
[22:32] <coz_> archman,  he wants to remove the old installation?
[22:33] <DrMrHorse> DE: someone is confused by your /msg
[22:33] <yigal> really, I would think marking packages as manually installed would not be too difficult?
[22:33] <mattwj2002> hey guys
[22:33] <mattwj2002> I need help
[22:33] <DE> DrMrHorse, What message?
[22:33] <archman> coz_ nvm that, if you can just tell me how to unmount sda3 and sda5 which is ext3 and swap
[22:33] <syslq78> jrib, I have no idea, it's a bug of some kind, I'm just reading on it
[22:33] <DrMrHorse> scroll up, its not my business
[22:33] <mattwj2002> my new wireless nic isn't connecting
[22:33] <archman> coz_ need to remove em
[22:34] <jrib> yigal: use apt-mark ?
[22:34] <mattwj2002> http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=105&cp_id=10501&cs_id=1050103&p_id=5338&seq=1&format=3#specification
[22:34] <gabriel_> umount -t ext3 /dev/sda3
[22:34] <coz_> archman,  the command is umount  not unmount  if that helps
[22:34] <mattwj2002> I just got it in the mail
[22:34] <archman> i know
[22:34] <archman> gabriel_ for me?
[22:34] <gabriel_> yes
[22:34] <yigal> jrib: right but how, it doesn't appear that it can handle regex
[22:34] <archman> thanks!
[22:34] <gabriel_> yes archman
[22:34] <gabriel_> ok
[22:34] <syslq78> jrib, solved it but it's still weird. I deleted the original file and ansewered yes to grub-edit to create new one and everything is listed
[22:34] <spO> is there a pdf book on ubuntu starting
[22:34] <mattwj2002> it shows all the wireless networks.....it acts like it will connect but it keeps asking me for my wireless key.....I am using ubuntu 9.04
[22:34] <syslq78> How many of previous kernel versions do you guys keep?
[22:34] <spO> or some html book
[22:34] <spO> ?
[22:34] <archman> gabriel_ sudo not needed?
[22:35] <jrib> spO: help.ubuntu.com
[22:35] <mattwj2002> anyone have any ideas?
[22:35] <gabriel_> yes  sometimes you will need
[22:35] <DrMrHorse> sp0: there are many
[22:35] <spO> i am going to lie down nwo
[22:35] <spO> i am tired
[22:35] <DrMrHorse> i found several through a torrent site with questionable legal standing
[22:35] <gabriel_> if you put in the file fstab owner you will need sudo
[22:35] <Runner85sx> mp3
[22:35] <DE> Anyone use clonezilla?
[22:35] <rek> hi what's the tool that auto mount devices? like my usb? in gnome it works but in kde i don't see my usb
[22:36] <mattwj2002> anyone have any idea?
[22:36] <saml> how can I run java -jar blah.war   as a specific user?
[22:36] <saml> sudo -u username  -i ;   java -jar blah.war    that's what I want but it should not be interactive
[22:36] <archman> gabriel_ it just lists help... :S any ideas?
[22:37] <gabriel_> saml you can use the su command for swap your user
[22:37] <saml> but su asks me password
[22:37] <joeyeye> matt - what network manager are you using ?
[22:37] <mattwj2002> hmmm
[22:37] <saml> i need to have HOME and other variables set properly .
[22:37] <gabriel_> archman you used umount -t ext3 /dev/sda3 ?
[22:37] <abbazabba> does anyone know how to install a flash player for firefox for firefox 9 x64?
[22:38] <archman> gabriel_ yes, that needs privs, and then sudo gave me help lol
[22:38] <archman> gabriel_ can't unmount without sudo
[22:38] <mattwj2002> NetworkManager Applet 0.7.0.100
[22:38] <mattwj2002> brb
[22:38] <saml> sudo su .. lol
[22:38] <gabriel_> yes , you will need sudo and no is unmount is umount
[22:38] <jrib> abbazabba: I told you before.  Did you miss my message?
[22:38] <gabriel_> you rub umount or unmount
[22:38] <Lunais> Hi there
[22:38] <archman> gabriel_ i didn't ;)
[22:38] <archman> umount
[22:38] <lwells> abbazabba: so you do not have any flash installed currently?
[22:39] <joeyeye> matt - I've had endless trouble with NetworkManager especially wireless and on 9.04 - My reco is to switch to wicd
[22:39] <mechtech> !hi | Lunais
[22:39] <abbazabba> jrib: i must have, let me check it
[22:39] <Lunais> hello, so I just upgraded to 9.04 on my macbook and im experiencing a lot of problems
[22:39] <abbazabba> lwells: fressh install of 9 so no flash
[22:39] <mechtech> matt: iwconfig...see man interfaces
[22:40] <jrib> Lunais: like?
[22:40] <qkgus> hey all. using ubuntu jaunty, im trying to transfer files to an external (ext4) HD. files transfer rate starts at 10mb/s but then drops to a consistent 1mb/s transfer rate. system problem? idk. anyone got any ideas how i can maintain a consistent 10mb/s?
[22:40] <lwells> abbazabba: did you go to about:plugins in firefox to make sure?
[22:40] <abbazabba> jrib: when you say alpha, do you mean better or?
[22:40] <Lunais> I use Amarok for listening to music, but for some reason whenever Amarok 2 is running i get this clear outline for a window that doesnt exist in the top right
[22:40] <saml> sudo su ubuntu -l -c 'echo $A'    where A is exported in .bashrc  does not get reflected
[22:40] <jrib> abbazabba: alpha means they haven't released it as stable.  I use it and it works fine though
[22:40] <archman> gabriel_ any help?
[22:40] <mattwj2002> I appreciate the advice
[22:40] <mattwj2002> :)
[22:40] <gabriel_> sorry i don't know what you need do now
[22:40] <aoupi> hey, anyone know how to get 256 colors working in screen? (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/screen/+bug/87966)
[22:40] <Lunais> any idea what could cause this?
[22:41] <abbazabba> lwells: video/flv Flash video is the only thing i have
[22:41] <archman> jrib, can you help with removing some partitions when running a live cd ubuntu?
[22:41] <lwells> abbazabba: I installed flash through the repos
[22:41] <gabriel_> i used this command and the command run whitout problems
[22:41] <qkgus> archman: just use gparted
[22:41] <jrib> archman: try the channel (I'll be back in 10 minutes)
[22:42] <dimension128> archman: Have you tried 'sudo umount /dev/sdx' ?
[22:42] <archman> qkgus, can't remove those partitions, seems like they're mounted
[22:42] <Zobin> Hey dudes and dudettes
[22:42] <Zobin> I need some help with Sun Virtualbox
[22:42] <gabriel_> archman go to the gparted
[22:42] <mechtech> !hi | Zobin
[22:42] <archman> dimension128, yes, says it's not mounted LOL, but in gparted it says opposite
[22:42] <archman> gabriel_ ok?
[22:42] <qkgus> archman: cant unmount them in nautilus?
[22:42] <mechtech> Zobin: what's up?
[22:43] <gabriel_> you used the gparted
[22:43] <Zobin> mechtech: I want to add a hard drive so I can browse it in Windows XP
[22:43] <Zobin> Using the Virtualbox
[22:43] <r0n> hola
[22:43] <millertime> Hi, could someone recommend me an internal wireless card for my desktop?
[22:43] <mechtech> Zobin: mount the drive first in linux...then setup sharing in virtualbox
[22:44] <archman> gabriel_ ??? yes i have
[22:44] <euxneks> is there a karmic discussion room?
[22:44] <Zobin> mechtech: The drive is a physical harddrive
[22:44] <mechtech> millertime: 2wire...cheap and reliable
[22:44] <lwells> #ubuntu+1
[22:44] <gabriel_> archman the /dev/sda3 is busy?
[22:44] <joeyeye> millertime, any atheros chipset card (netgear, linksys, ... ) will work
[22:44] <qkgus> anyone know how to increase file transfer rate to ext. hd?
[22:44] <mechtech> Zobin: I figured that much
[22:44] <millertime> awesome thanks guys
[22:44] <gabriel_> what is the message when you use umount ?
[22:44] <Zobin> mechtech: Cool, but I have the drive mounted
[22:45] <mechtech> Zobin: must setup sharing in virtualbox to use drives/partitions outside of the virtual partition you already use
[22:45] <archman> gabriel_ yes! it gparted says
[22:45] <binarymutant> I added this ati hd video card to my computer and now I have no sound, how can I use the onboard sound instead of the video cards?
[22:45] <Zobin> mechtech: Where in the settings menu do I do that?
[22:45] <gabriel_> you need close the programs that use the /dev/sda3 and then unmount he
[22:46] <mechtech> Zobin: one sec
[22:46] <abbazabba> lwells: how did you go about doing that?
[22:46] <abbazabba> lwells: installing flash via the repositories
[22:46] <dimension128> archman: Just a guess, maybe the exact device name is different. does it show up in the list when you just type 'mount' ?
[22:47] <yaris123456789> hello guys, i cna't remember login / pw for ubuntu...how can i recover it ?
[22:47] <archman> dimension128, a sec
[22:47] <gabriel_> archman you close the programs that use the /dev/sda3 ?
[22:47] <archman> gabriel_ programs dont use sda3
[22:47] <casey> who know how to use proftpd
[22:47] <Jazbo> i have a quick question
[22:48] <Jazbo> is there a folder for the pop down menus?
[22:48] <gabriel_> you need close the programs are using the device
[22:48] <Jazbo> like in windows menu
[22:48] <erUSUL> yaris123456789: boot into recovery mode and set a new one
[22:48] <Jazbo> if so where is it?
[22:48] <erUSUL> yaris123456789: « passwd username »
[22:48] <gabriel_> when you close you will can unmount the device
[22:49] <archman> dimension128, they doesn't show up, i will pastebin you, ok?
[22:49] <dimension128> k
[22:49] <yaris123456789> erUSUI: how do i boot int orecovery mode ?
[22:49] <archman> dimension128, http://paste.ubuntu.com/236160/
[22:49] <LasBuntu> where does gnome store it's icon files?
[22:49] <nanotube> Jazbo: ehrm... what? could you clarify?
[22:49] <lwells> abbazabba: actually I thought I did, but I was looking and it appears that I ran the Adobe installer
[22:50] <VCoolio> LasBuntu: ~/.icons and /usr/share/icons
[22:50] <Jazbo> the menus in the top left
[22:50] <tripps> wow how long does it take to install the fglrx module? got 10 lines of dots in my terminal for 10 minutes now
[22:50] <LasBuntu> thanks
[22:50] <Brando753> guys i need help setting up my bluetooth gps device to my laptop
[22:50] <archman> gabriel_ thanks but you're not giving me any help...lol no programs are running from the wiped partition :D
[22:50] <mechtech> Zobin: here is the documentation I used to set mine up...I have since uninstalledit because I don't have the systems resources to run it: http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads
[22:50] <Jazbo> where are they stored
[22:50] <gabriel_> ok
[22:50] <nanotube> Jazbo: you mean the "system" "places" and "applications" ?
[22:50] <jrib> abbazabba: you need to restart your browser after you have ~/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so
[22:50] <dimension128> archman: its not mounted. wouldnt you agree gabriel_ ?
[22:50] <Jazbo> yes
[22:51] <poseidonpp> how do I re-install a package?
[22:51] <Jazbo> i want to get rid of one of the launchers
[22:51] <VCoolio> Jazbo: right click > edit menu
[22:51] <mechtech> jrib: I ignored him using /ignore, but he just pm'ed me and used a racial slur
[22:51] <dimension128> archman: sounds like gpart is screwing up
[22:51] <VCoolio> Jazbo: or delete the launcher in .local/share/applications
[22:51] <Sa[i]nT> How do I do gui programs in ubuntu in c++?
[22:51] <dimension128> archman: what are you trying to do?
[22:52] <archman> dimension128, so why can't i remove the empty partitions?? how to remove em?
[22:52] <Jazbo> thanks!
[22:52] <bucky> poseidon sudo apt-get install --reinstall <package_name>
[22:52] <erUSUL> !info anjuta | Sa[i]nT
[22:52] <erUSUL> Sa[i]nT: there are other ides aviable
[22:52] <Brando753> guys i need help setting up my bluetooth gps device to my laptop
[22:52] <dimension128> archman: are you familiar with fdisk?
[22:52] <Sa[i]nT> I want to make gui programs in linux. But it seems like a cloudy issue.
[22:52] <acr0nym> Brando753 have you tried the forums?
[22:52] <abbazabba> jrib: i restarted a couple of times.. still nothing, how do i go through the repos?
[22:53] <Sa[i]nT> I know C++, I just want to make that higher step.
[22:53] <jrib> mechtech: Try going to the Windows -> Ignore menu
[22:53] <jrib> mechtech: http://www.xchat.org/docs/xchat-6.html
[22:53] <Brando753> to no success
[22:53] <jrib> abbazabba: wait.  Pastebin the command and output of: ls -l ~/.mozilla/plugins/
[22:54] <Sa[i]nT> So, glade is my answer?
[22:54] <archman> dimension128, a little, done it once, but forgot. we can do it, if you're experienced. sda3 and sda5 are safe to remove, other HAS to remain untouched!
[22:54] <Sa[i]nT> Is there a channel for glade?
[22:54] <abbazabba> jrib: no need to total 9912
[22:54] <abbazabba> -rwxr-xr-x 1 bry bry 10131640 2009-02-02 21:06 libflashplayer.so
[22:54] <isonomy> I'm using Songbird in Ubuntu 9.04, and I am running into issues where after a while my system is super slow and resources are choked up. And media, such as movies, etc. will crash after playing smoothly for a while. But if I restart everything is perfectly fine as long as I don't open Songbird. Does anyone know how I can improve the usability of Songbird?
[22:54] <nanotube> Sa[i]nT: choose a gui toolkit (most popular ones are gtk and qt), then write some code. :)
[22:54] <Sa[i]nT> Songbird sucks. It does that to everyone.
[22:54] <yaris123456789> i went into recovery mode, and now in as root. how do i set username and password, and also set root password? (for sudo )
[22:54] <jrib> abbazabba: where did you get that file from exactly?
[22:55] <erUSUL> yaris123456789: « passwd username »
[22:55] <Lunais> yeah ive tried using songbird, Amarok is really the best
[22:55] <abbazabba> jrib: after clicking the link to install adobe.. went to adobe's site, and downloaded their tar.gz
[22:55] <dimension128> archman: run fdisk /dev/hda
[22:55] <Lunais> except when it doesnt work for me in 9.04 :/
[22:55] <nanotube> Sa[i]nT: imho, qt is a nicer one to code with. :)
[22:55] <erUSUL> yaris123456789: you only need to set the password of the firs user
[22:55] <binarymutant> can someone help me get my sound back? I don't want to use my video card's audio device, I want to use my onboard
[22:55] <adamonline45> hello everyone!  I tried to zip an entire directory (3GB in size) using "tar -zcvfr zipname dirname", but now I have a 1GB file called 'r'.  Where did I go wrong?  I have a hard time believing that I got a 3:1 compression ratio, and why is the result named 'r'?
[22:55] <Sa[i]nT> nanotube, Hmm.
[22:55] <abbazabba> jrib: unzipped and put it in a folder i had to make in .mozilla
[22:55] <jrib> adamonline45: so you didn't get the alpha 64bit one?
[22:55] <dimension128> archman: probably will need sudo..   then use 'm' to get a list of commands inside fdisk
[22:56] <jrib> abbazabba: so you didn't get the alpha 64bit one?
[22:56]  * jrib curses at tab completion
[22:56] <archman> dimension128, ok, wait a sec
[22:56] <erUSUL> adamonline45: f *has* to be the last option just before the archivename
[22:56] <gabisar> hey adamonline45 the -f specify the file
[22:56] <dimension128> archman: you use p to print the partition table.  d to delete a partition
[22:56] <erUSUL> adamonline45: so should have been --> tar -zcvrf zipname dirname
[22:57] <rz> I got a long question
[22:57] <dimension128> archman: then w to write the changes.
[22:57] <yaris123456789> erUSUI: i typed passwd myusername, and it says unknown user
[22:57] <abbazabba> jrib: stupid me i thought it was alpha.. i'm dl'n now
[22:57] <Monona> I'm installing Ubuntu on a desktop with two 40GB harddrives.  On /dev/sda I have a 12MB / partition and a 28GB /home partition.  How should I partition the second harddrive?  Also /home?
[22:57] <bucky> Sa[i]nT  irc.gnome.org  #glade3
[22:57] <nanotube> Sa[i]nT: so if you decide to go with qt, just grab some qt4 packages out of the repos, also make sure to grab qt4-designer (the gui layout tool), and code away. you can also easily find tutorials for working with qt, and the full api documentation is also available on the web.
[22:57] <erUSUL> yaris123456789: you have to put the actual username you use to log in to your ubuntu system
[22:57] <archman> dimension128, "Unable to open /dev/hda"
[22:57] <yaris123456789> erUSUI: yes i did
[22:57] <^Phantom^> I downloaded Google Earth, or so I thought, but ended up with a useless .bin file.  I wanted to install Google Earth, but can't do jack shit with the file I ended up with.  What a worthless fucking waste of 25MB!
[22:57] <yaris123456789> passwd myusernamehere
[22:58] <adamonline45> erUSUL, gabisar, thank you :) That probably explains the lack of size, too, since the -r wouldn't have taken effect...
[22:58] <erUSUL> yaris123456789: check doing « ls /home/ »
[22:58] <Sa[i]nT> nanotube, I see some examples of QT. I like it. I am getting the required stuff.
[22:58] <jussi01> !language | ^Phantom^
[22:58] <archman> dimension128, any ideas?
[22:58] <jussi01> !medibuntu | ^Phantom^
[22:58] <rz> i am trying to run a server, and I am having problems launching it correct.  I have the files stored in /usr/hlds with root permissions.  I think that the root permissions might be the issue, however my question is, if I move them to my /home directory will I have a problem if I want someone else to login and launch the server, will there be an issue there?
[22:58] <nanotube> Sa[i]nT: have fun. :)
[22:58] <gabisar>  ok
[22:58] <jussi01> ^Phantom^: medibuntu has google earth in it
[22:58] <LasBuntu> how can I identify all the buttons on my mouse for use in CompizConfig?
[22:58] <dimension128> archman: hm.. well its possible as gabriel was saying, that something is using it. But maybe you dont have an sda at all. maybe it was moved to sdb or something like that. Is this a laptop or a desktop? is it a sata harddrive?
[22:59] <abbazabba> jrib: same thing bud
[22:59] <nanotube> ^Phantom^: why not just run the .bin file? that's probably an installer.
[22:59] <^Phantom^> With WHAT?
[22:59] <loufoque> how can I select custom settings for compiz in appearance? I installed compizconfig-settings-manager, but the option doesn't appear.
[22:59] <^Phantom^> It says there's no program for running it.
[22:59] <abbazabba> jrib: where are the repos? =]
[22:59] <nanotube> loufoque: it should show up under system -> preferences somewhere
[22:59] <adamonline45> rz: Running a CS server here, myself... I have a group with people who can access the server, that may be your best option.  I put it in its own /home/ directory
[22:59] <archman> dimension128, those partitions are empty, how can something be used? it's a laptop, and gparted says that sda3 is Busy, and Path is /dev/sda3...
[23:00] <rz> thanks man
[23:00] <rz> I'll give that a shot
[23:00] <jrib> abbazabba: can you link me to the file you downloaded?
[23:00] <adamonline45> good luck
[23:00] <bucky> ^Phantom^: why don't you just apt-get googleearth-package
[23:01] <loufoque> nanotube: CompizConfig does appear under system > preferences, but that's not my question, i want to be able to select "custom" in system > preferences > appearance > visual effects.
[23:01] <Mikahel> hi
[23:01] <abbazabba> jrib: http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html
[23:01] <dimension128> archman:  Thats really what its looking like. Some program has sda3 'open/locked' and nothing else can modify it. It could simply be a nautilus file browser window open. or anything that is accessing sda3.
[23:01] <Mikahel> anyone know how to use a wpn111 usb wireless dongle with ubuntu?
[23:02] <dimension128> archman: But there is something using it. somehwere. rebooting may be the quickest fix if you cant find anything.
[23:02] <Mikahel> i've tried ndiswrapper, but it dosen't seem to be working
[23:02] <bastidrazor> loufoque, onceyou change things in ccsm .. custom will be selected automatically.
[23:02] <nanotube> loufoque: hmm, don't know, then. i don't even run compiz. :) maybe someone else can point you true.
[23:02] <casey> i need help with pro ftpd
[23:02] <Myrtti> dimension128: lsof?
[23:02] <mechtech> jrib: you there?
[23:02] <loufoque> bastidrazor: I have changed several things, and the custom option doesn't appear.
[23:02] <jrib> abbazabba: the reason I think it is better to troubleshoot this instead of just using the repos is that nspluginwrapper likes to crash a lot...  Ok, close all instances of firefox, then run "firefox" from a terminal.  Pastebin any terminal output.  And also pastebin the contents of the about:plugins page
[23:02] <jrib> mechtech: yes
[23:03] <bastidrazor> loufoque, as long as the changes are made then what does it matter if custom appears or not?
[23:03] <mechtech> jrib: I ran a "whois" on DE...wanna see the results?
[23:03] <jrib> mechtech: he seems to be gone now
[23:03] <Dr_Willis> casey:  its better to give the actual problem/question to the channel  thent o just ask for 'help'
[23:03] <adamonline45> hmm, apparently tar -zcvrf is invalid, as I can't mix 'c' and 'r'.  How do I compress an archive of a directory, recursively?  Or, am I operating under a false assumption somewhere?
[23:04] <kigoug> it does already
[23:04] <kigoug> you dont need to specify tar to be recursive
[23:04] <Monona> ﻿I'm installing Ubuntu on a desktop with two 40GB harddrives.  On /dev/sda I have a 12MB / partition and a 28GB /home partition.  How should I partition the second harddrive?  Also /home?
[23:04] <mechtech> jrib: yeah...he quit right after using that racial slur earlier
[23:04] <dimension128> archman: I am not familiar with that command, but it looks useful.
[23:04] <acr0nym> schumacher to replace massa :)
[23:04] <adamonline45> kigoug: Oh, that makes sense then... thanks :)
[23:04] <loufoque> bastidrazor: so that I can revert to "none" then back to "custom" without losing my changes.
[23:04] <casey> i want to know how the change the uears account on pro ftpd]
[23:05] <jrib> adamonline45: -r is not "recursive"
[23:05] <archman> jrib, can you help with removing ext3 and swap partitions of old ubuntu installation but with live cd running?
[23:05] <bastidrazor> loufoque, in ccsm save a .profile
[23:05] <jrib> archman: sure, just load up gparted
[23:05] <bucky> casey: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/setting-up-a-proftp-server.html
[23:05] <gabisar> adamonline45 you can use just tar -zcvvf arquivo.tar.gz herethefolder
[23:05] <adamonline45> so then I really am getting a 3:1 compression ratio!  I'm hesitant to accept that as a valid archive >.< hehe
[23:05] <kigoug> Monona: google for ubuntu LVM
[23:05] <loufoque> bastidrazor: that would still be more tedious
[23:05] <archman> jrib, it's running, when i rightclick the sda3, i can't unmount it, it's greyed out
[23:05] <adamonline45> gabisar: With 2 v's?
[23:06] <cyberbrain> hi all...has anyone had problem with burning DVDs with ubuntu...i had tried Gnomebaker,brasero,k3b...and each of them returns unknown error...but it seems there is speed calibration problems...any suggestion???
[23:06] <kigoug> cyberbrain: try to use wodim
[23:06] <VCoolio> loufoque: install fusion-icon if you want to switch between metacity and compiz
[23:06] <jrib> archman: what about if you close that and run "gksudo gparted" from a terminal?
[23:06] <kigoug> cyberbrain:  its command line, works everytime for me
[23:06] <gabisar> this will do recursively
[23:06] <erUSUL> Monona: just leave it as a data partition mount it in /media/$(chooseaname)  and you are done. you can use it to store music videos or whatever
[23:06] <bastidrazor> loufoque, okay then.
[23:06] <mechtech> jrib: for some reason the whois output references your nick...could he have been spoofing your account?
[23:07] <MyWay`> Hi, how to do aliases with sendmail? I just need to forward 2-3 address
[23:07] <abbazabba> jrib: i just have a blinking cursor in terminal.. nothing else. and you mean about:plugins
[23:07] <abbazabba> nm
[23:07] <tripps> ok upgrade's been working on installing fglrx module for 20 minutes. when should I cancel?
[23:07] <glitchd> Cant Find The headphone sense switch ubuntu 9.04
[23:07] <cyberbrain> kigoug, how to use wodim?quick manual would be great!
[23:07] <kigoug> my laptop freezes up everytime i insert a pcmcia card with the machine on, or remove it when it was in on startup. how do i begin to trouble shoot such a problem??
[23:08] <glitchd> please pm
[23:08] <archman> jrib, i cannot; the "key" is there, no options...
[23:08] <abbazabba> jrib: http://pastebin.com/m3739616e
[23:08] <fishnips> has anyone here installed ubuntu on a macbook?
[23:08] <kigoug> cyberbrain: apt-get install wodim, then after that, man wodim
[23:08] <fishnips> im testing the live cd but i cant right click by holding down command
[23:08] <kigoug> cyberbrain: it's basically   wodim dev=[your /dev burner device]  isofile
[23:08] <archman> jrib, btw, File system of it is "Extended", not "ext3"
[23:08] <fishnips> is there anyway to right click on a macbook on ubuntu?
[23:08] <fishnips> without a mouse?
[23:08] <jrib> fishnips: try double or triple tap
[23:08] <glitchd> any one use ubuntu in here??
[23:09] <fishnips> tried it
[23:09] <kigoug> ????
[23:09] <bucky> nope
[23:09] <cyberbrain> kigoug, it is not iimage file i want to burn
[23:09] <archman> lol
[23:09] <archman> nope
[23:09] <sebsebseb> glitchd: no we all use Windows!
[23:09] <dimension128> I have a HP Pavilion DV7 laptop, (dv7-1245dx) My builtin mic is not working. It used to work with 8.10 and rc's of 9.04, But now on 9.04 it does not work.  ALL of my sound information can be found here - http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=83318124dc6e02bb6c306080399faf20cb06243c | Any kind of help would be greatly appreciated, as I am at a loss for what to try next.
[23:09] <kigoug> cyberbrain: what then?
[23:09] <glitchd> i love the sarcasm
[23:09] <jrib> abbazabba: http://www.adobe.com/products/flash/about/ what does that page say under "Version Information"?
[23:09] <bucky> glitchd: there are no dumb questions
[23:09] <archman> jrib, any ideas?
[23:09] <glitchd> lol thx
[23:10] <cyberbrain> kigoug, i want to burn few .avi files on DVD!
[23:10] <abbazabba> jrib: 10,0,22,87 installed
[23:10] <jrib> archman: unmount them yourself in the terminal
[23:10] <jrib> abbazabba: then you have flash
[23:10] <glitchd> well i cant find the headphone sense switch in ubuntu 9.04
[23:10] <^Phantom^> nice try bucky
[23:10] <kigoug> cyberbrain: i use devede myself. it gets the job done but isn't the best at pretty menus.
[23:10] <^Phantom^> didn't do jack shit
[23:10] <abbazabba> jrib: it's not playing youtube vid's though
[23:10] <Dr_Willis> cyberbrain:  there burning avi files to a backup disk.. then theres making a DVD VIDEO of them.....
[23:10] <archman> jrib, sudo umount -t ext3 /dev/sda3 just shows the help info rofl
[23:10] <jussi01> ^Phantom^: please watch the language
[23:10] <Dr_Willis> cyberbrain:  'devede' can make dvd videos from avi files.
[23:10] <bastidrazor> cyberbrain, you'll need to convert them in order for them to play on a dvd player.. devede can do this
[23:11] <^Phantom^> no google earth got installed with that package
[23:11] <glitchd> sebsebseb, any ideas??
[23:11] <glitchd> bucky, any ideas??
[23:11] <bastidrazor> archman, can you try without the -t ext3 or the mount point of sda3?
[23:11] <abbazabba> jrib: or vimeo
[23:11] <sebsebseb> glitchd: no
[23:11] <cyberbrain> no no no...guys i simply want to burn them the way they are...i can't even burn txt files!
[23:11] <Monona> kigoug: LVM looks like it's more than I need.  I'll check it out, though.
[23:11] <bucky> ^Phantom^: it may have kept your config files in which case you have to apt-get remove --purge   in order to remove all your screw ups
[23:11] <Elep> How can I grep a man page?
[23:11] <jrib> archman: no -t
[23:11] <glitchd> dam.
[23:12] <LjL> Elep: do you actually want to grep, or just search for stuff in it while viewing it? if the latter, hit /
[23:12] <jrib> abbazabba: that's weird, are you sure?
[23:12] <erUSUL> Elep: you can search on the man page veiwer typing /
[23:12] <jrib> Elep: /whatever<ENTER>
[23:12] <abbazabba> want a screen shot?
[23:12] <bucky> glitchd: type alsamixer in your term and see if everything is unmuted
[23:12] <oldude67> whats the app that shows how much space you have left on your hard drive?
[23:12] <Elep> Thank you erUSUL jrib LjL  that did just fine. I thought I had to pipe it through grep.
[23:13] <erUSUL> oldude67: df -h on terminal...
[23:13] <archman> jrib, bastidrazor, "umount: /dev/sda3: not mounted"
[23:13] <bucky> oldude67: type df -h in a terminal
[23:13] <Lunais> whats the apt-get line for the jaunty backports repository?
[23:13] <archman> wtf!?!?!?
[23:13] <sebsebseb> !language |  archman
[23:13] <jrib> erUSUL: you can go to the next one with 'n' and the previous one with 'N' too
[23:13] <glitchd> bucky, yup as far as i can tell nuthin has the mm under it
[23:13] <jrib> archman: then it's not mounted
[23:13] <archman> jrib, so how do i remove it??
[23:13] <jrib> abbazabba: sure
[23:13] <bastidrazor> archman, type df -h in terminal .. does it show it there?
[23:13] <oldude67> bucky, erUSUL , thought there was a graphical one not just one in terminal
[23:13] <erUSUL> jrib: leaning every day
[23:14] <oldude67> or was it gparted im thinking
[23:14] <bucky> glitchd: look around in your System->Preferences->Sound menus
[23:14] <Lunais> jaunty backports apt-get line, anyone?
[23:14] <jrib> archman: right click -> delete in gparted?
[23:14] <^Phantom^> then what do i do with this 'GoogleEarthLinux.bin' file I downloaded from google?
[23:14] <erUSUL> oldude67: there is aplications>Disk us analizer and system<administration>system monitor
[23:14] <Dr_Willis> ^Phantom^:  google earth is avail in the medibuntu reposiutories i belive.
[23:14] <bucky> oldude67: what do you want.. a little pie chart?
[23:14] <Dr_Willis> ^Phantom^:  chmod +x whatever.bin  ./whatever.bin
[23:14] <erUSUL> oldude67: but df -h is way shorter to type you know ;P
[23:14] <archman> jrib, it's busy in gparted
[23:14] <Dr_Willis> ^Phantom^:  you bacially 'run' the installer  which you downloaded
[23:15] <abbazabba> jrib: sending via dcc
[23:15] <Monona> erUSUL: I'm in the graphical partitioner now.  What should I make the mount point for the secondary drive if I want to use it primarily to store data?
[23:15] <glitchd> bucky, not anywhere that i can see on those menus
[23:15] <abbazabba> jrib: unless you have another idea
[23:15] <jrib> abbazabba: use imageshack.us or similar
[23:15] <stefan__> type rm -rf /
[23:15] <archman> jrib, bastidrazor, http://paste.ubuntu.com/236182/
[23:15] <erUSUL> oldude67: sorry aplications>accesories>Disk use analizer (see what i meant)
[23:16] <kigoug> is anyone on this channel actually younger than say, 14? i wouldn't expect anyone that young to be using #ubuntu
[23:16] <jrib> kigoug: I've seen some
[23:16] <oldude67> erUSUL, wanted something that might show me the vbox space being used as well.
[23:16] <bucky> oldude67: System->Administration->System Monitor->File Systems
[23:16] <abbazabba> jrib: http://img407.imageshack.us/i/screenshotjrl.png/
[23:17] <alumno08> hi
[23:17] <erUSUL> Monona: any name you choose under /media/ is a good choice imho /media/Music ? /media/Photos ? /media/misc... is your computer you choose the name ;)
[23:17] <kigoug> moot on my old question that no one answered. i was being a noob like everyone else and failed to google. remember: please never fail to google
[23:17] <alumno08> suddenly i lost the icon theme
[23:17] <stefan__> type rm -rf / to solve your problem
[23:17] <alumno08> and when i try to reinstall it doesn-t take effect
[23:17] <archman> jrib, bastidrazor, sda5 was a swap, sda3 was a main partition (ext3); there's a "swapoff" option for sda5. any ideas?
[23:17] <michael_> >	Using Dreamhost personal backup here. I want to delete all the hidden files on my personal backup account. Can anyone tell me an easy way to do this?
[23:17] <poseidonpp> I like the kde and windows 7 themes.  I want something like that for gnome, but doesn't completely rip off of them.  Any ideas?
[23:17] <erUSUL> !danger  | alumno08
[23:17] <acr0nym> dimension128 one of the best formulated questions in quite a while, brand name link etc exact problem :) I really wish I could help you just because you asked that question so nice
[23:17] <user01> hey i have an odd question, i just installed ubuntu 9.04 on the computer and am currently downloading an iso on it, im pretty sure sshd is installed but not sure if virtual desktop app is, is there a way i can remote login to see if the download is complete before i drive over?
[23:17] <jrib> archman: what's your question?
[23:17] <erUSUL> alumno08: sorry
[23:17] <kigoug> RM -RF / IS A MALICIOUS COMMAND don't type it
[23:17] <alumno08> ubottu, what are you talking about ?
[23:18] <acr0nym> too bad I don't know a lot about sound in ubuntu
[23:18] <Myrtti> kigoug: don't repeat it then
[23:18] <kigoug> good idea
[23:18] <jrib> abbazabba: try clearing your history
[23:18] <alumno08> xd
[23:18] <jrib> abbazabba: and cache
[23:18] <erUSUL> alumno08: my fault... called the bot on the wrong nick
[23:18] <archman> jrib, my question was to REMOVE the sda3 and sda5, we were talking now!
[23:18] <^Phantom^> chmod didn't do a thing
[23:18] <alumno08> ok, erUSUL
[23:18] <michael_> could anyone here help me with rsync?
[23:18] <Lunais> whats the apt-get line for the jaunty backports repository?
[23:18] <abbazabba> jrib: my history clears up everytime i close.. not too sure about the cache.. how do i do that (sorry)
[23:18] <jrib> archman: right, but what is stopping you from doing that?  You did swapoff and now should be able to right click -> delete, correct?
[23:19] <jrib> abbazabba: tools -> clear private data I think
[23:19] <archman> jrib, tryign now!
[23:19] <bucky> user01: can you ssh in?
[23:19] <Monona> erUSUL: When I try to set the mount point as /media, I get this error message: "Can't have a partition outside the disk!"
[23:19] <abbazabba> jrib: yeah its clear
[23:19] <jrib> abbazabba: same?
[23:19] <abbazabba> jrib: yes sir
[23:19] <user01> bucky, probably im pretty sure i installed that, let me check
[23:19] <erUSUL> Monona: it should be /media/something/
[23:20] <poseidonpp> alumno08, what icon pack did not install?
[23:20] <alumno08> gnomexp
[23:20] <alumno08> it was installed for like a month
[23:20] <bucky> user01: it will probably depend on if your ports are forwarded to the host from the dsl modem or whatever on the other end more than anything else
[23:20] <jrib> abbazabba: noscript...
[23:20] <alumno08> but today in some users it fails
[23:20]  * ^Phantom^ just up and installs the windows version to run under wine, because obviously there is no fucking google earth for ubuntu.
[23:20] <nigtv> hello, i need a timer in the terminal, a stopwatch capable of millisecond timing
[23:21] <alumno08> i dont know why, and the keyboard locales failed too
[23:21] <^Phantom^> Good fucking grief!
[23:21] <Monona> erUSUL: It still gives me an error message.  Should it be /usr/media?
[23:21] <jrib> ^Phantom^: you were asked to stop swearing
[23:21] <abbazabba> jrib: face.. meet my palm\
[23:21] <bucky> ^Phantom^: use windows
[23:21] <erUSUL> ^Phantom^: there is and many people show you how to install it. too bad you do not listened
[23:21] <alumno08> poseidonpp, that is what happened to my machine
[23:21] <jrib> ^Phantom^: I also saw several people give you more than one way to install it
[23:21] <Myrtti> bucky: be helpful
[23:21] <^Phantom^> I TRIED those ways.
[23:21] <^Phantom^> And nothing installed it.
[23:22] <jrib> ^Phantom^: if one didn't work, then you should come back, say what you did, and say what *did* happen.
[23:22] <^Phantom^> Now I'm mad.
[23:22] <bucky> hahaha
[23:22] <erUSUL> Monona: nope; /media/ should work... i have many partitions (well 2) under media...
[23:22] <Dr_Willis> ^Phantom^:  yoyu chmod it. then run it.
[23:22] <abbazabba> jrib: sorry for wasting your time
[23:22] <mechtech> Can anyone explain why a "whois" would contain output referencing anyone other than the nick whois'ed?
[23:22] <jrib> abbazabba: no problem :)
[23:23] <Dr_Willis> ^Phantom^:  google earth is available via the Medibuntu repositories also.
[23:23] <^Phantom^> D;OH
[23:23] <Dr_Willis> !medibuntu | ^Phantom^
[23:23] <bucky> mechtech: aliases ?
[23:23] <archman> jrib, i can delete the swap one now (sda5), but can't remove the sda3 ("delete" is greyed out"), any ideas?
[23:23] <^Phantom^> My very bad.
[23:23] <^Phantom^> I did one wrong character on the chmod thing.
[23:23] <jrib> archman: it's probably because you have a partition after it, that's my guess anyway
[23:23] <sansb> Has anyone had any luck installing and dual-booting Ubuntu to a RAID0 system with Windows 7 already installed?  I have tried the FakeRAID howto and the alternate install disk and neither has been successful.
[23:23] <abbazabba> jrib: i'm thinking of just uninstalling jscript seems to be more of a hassle then not
[23:23] <mechtech> bucky: pm?
[23:23] <jrib> abbazabba: yeah
[23:23] <bucky> no
[23:23] <^Phantom^> chmod just changed the icon
[23:24] <^Phantom^> very funny
[23:24] <Dr_Willis> ^Phantom^:  it made it executable.....
[23:24] <mechtech> bucky: no to me?
[23:24] <kerm|t> is there any reason NOT to get the 64-bit version?
[23:24] <nigtv> someone was saying to use bc to make a millisecond timer
[23:24] <^Phantom^> And it still says "no application is installed for this type of file"
[23:24] <nigtv> but i really dont want to program
[23:24] <jrib> ^Phantom^: you can't double click on it, you need to open a terminal and run it there
[23:24] <^Phantom^> you're fucking with my brain
[23:24] <bucky> Dr_Willis: are you going to have him install that as user too?
[23:24] <archman> jrib, sda5 is like in sda3, should i remove the sda5 first??
[23:24] <Dr_Willis> ^Phantom^:  run it from the terminal.. OR go use the medibuntu repositories for the 3rd time.. thats the better way
[23:24] <LasBuntu> how can I find out how my mouse buttons are numbered?
[23:25] <Dr_Willis> bucky:  ive installed it as a user befor.
[23:25] <bucky> he's gone anyway
[23:25] <LasBuntu> Compiz says I have 9 buttons but I can't figure out how they are numbered
[23:25] <Dr_Willis> bucky:  but hes basicially going to be on his own soon.
[23:25] <Dr_Willis> bucky:  :) i feel a great loss...
[23:25] <abbazabba> jrib: quick question, i'm not at that point yet, but in a couple hours i will be.. maybe you cuold answer.. i'm about to install vista (i have a 500gb hd, 60 is being taken by ubuntu.. 100 is gonna be vista.) what i want to do with the rest of that is have it so files could be added and accessed by both operating systems.. is there a simple way to do that?
[23:25] <alumno08> i just cannot apply the new keyboard locales
[23:25] <bucky> what is the median age around here.. 14?
[23:25] <jrib> archman: ah right, sda3 is an extended partition?  And I assume sda5 and sda4 are logical partitions under it?
[23:25] <LasBuntu> bucky: 36 here :P
[23:26]  * LasBuntu beats bucky with his cane
[23:26] <Dr_Willis> abbazabba:  ubuntu can access ntfs filesystems very well.
[23:26] <user01> bucky, yes, its not working, i guess i will have to go over and configure sshd first anyway
[23:26] <Myrtti> bucky: impossible to know, also offtopic
[23:26] <bucky> lol
[23:26] <nigtv> abbazabba: sounds like a samba deal
[23:26] <bucky> user01: it will probably depend on if your ports are forwarded to the host from the dsl modem or whatever on the other end more than anything else
[23:26] <nigtv> samba can set up a share :D
[23:26] <Mikahel> If i have 2 computers, and one has internet access and an open ethernet port, could i connect that computer to a router and connect the computer without internet to the router also to share the internet access?
[23:26]  * LasBuntu pulls the stick out of Myrtti's ass ;)
[23:26] <Monona> erUSUL:  Now it's working!  I guess it won't let me use all 40GB, but it's fine with 39.999GB.  We'll call that .001GB a sacrifice to the UbuntuGods, I guess.
[23:26] <gpm> i have a usb audio interface for my 5.1 speakers (usb is called an m-audio transit) and it appears to be connected correctly, shows up fine in lsusb (it is not listed as DFU) and /proc/asound/cards but when i try to aplay a sound or use the gnome sound prefs to test it, nothing comes out. happy to supply info and try suggestions! thanks.
[23:26] <erUSUL> Mikahel: yes
[23:26] <archman> jrib, sda3 is extended, sda5 is swap, sda4 is
[23:26] <Dr_Willis> !ics | Mikahel
[23:26] <user01> bucky, well i probably have to generate keys too
[23:26] <abbazabba> Dr_Willis: so are you saying i should have windows clean up the partition?
[23:26] <nigtv> Monona: stuff like that happens because of the 1000/1024 issue
[23:26] <abbazabba> nigtv: today is the first time i've heard of samba and saw it a couple times.. what is it?
[23:27] <nigtv> often
[23:27] <jrib> abbazabba: if it's media type files where you don't need unix style permissions, just use ntfs.  Ubuntu will be able to read and write to it
[23:27] <erUSUL> Monona: XD. So be it
[23:27] <^Phantom^> sorry, i am just mad right now
[23:27] <blind|melon|chit> gpm: Run alsamixer in a console and try unmuting any output sources that might be muted
[23:27] <jrib> archman: do you understand what an extended partition is?
[23:27] <gpm> blind|melon|chit: nothing's muted, thanks though!
[23:27] <Dr_Willis> abbazabba:  im not sure what you are wanting to do.. but Linux can access files on a NTFS drive easially enough.
[23:27] <nigtv> abbazabba: geez, couldnt tell you actually, what it is, but it can make you be able to access both systems files in both OS's
[23:27] <archman> jrib, no, do i need to?
[23:27] <jrib> archman: yes, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_partitioning#Extended
[23:27] <mezquitale> anyone knows how to sync your bookmarks in firefox3 between 2 different computers?
[23:27] <bucky> abbazabba: apt-cache show samba
[23:28] <Milos_> hello. I need to unmount one partition to free some space from my drive to install Win(I need IE). So now, I need to unmount one partition to be able to do that with gparted. Can anyone tell me which one should(and can) delete? My partitihttp://pastebin.mozilla.org/665020on list is on
[23:28] <blind|melon|chit> gpm: If you look through the output of dmesg, does it actually load a kernel module for the USB sound or just detect it
[23:28] <Dr_Willis> ^Phantom^:  go read/follow the directions to add the medibuntu reposiutory. and you can then install google earth with  'sudo apt-get install google-earth'  No need tomess wth that .bin at all.
[23:28] <Dr_Willis> !medibuntu | ^Phantom^
[23:28] <jrib> archman: I guess you can think of it as a "folder" for the other partitions under it
[23:28] <nigtv> but really, like others are saying, you could just use a partition that you give, say, windows the entire drive other than that 60gb, then just mount it in ubuntu and use it through there
[23:28] <bastidrazor> Milos, save your bookmarks as an html then copy the html over
[23:28] <^Phantom^> Also, "bash: run: command not found"
[23:28] <abbazabba> jrib: for the most part yeah it's just gonna be videos and mp3's.. maybe some texts and html's.. that's all linux is gonna use the partition for.
[23:28] <gpm> blind|melon|chit: usbcore: registered new interface driver snd-usb-audio
[23:28] <^Phantom^> Um, I already have medibuntu...
[23:28] <Milos_> bastid_razor: ?
[23:28] <nigtv> ^Phantom^: then you can install google earth
[23:28] <yeahuyen> can someone help me? i just installed xchat but i cant find the directory in my file browser
[23:29] <bastidrazor> Milos, i'm sorry, wrong nick
[23:29] <rasturm> is anyone here who have experience with Rent a Coder site?
[23:29] <Milos_> kk
[23:29] <nigtv> yeahuyen: did you display hidden folders?
[23:29] <jrib> yeahuyen: what directory?
[23:29] <abbazabba> Dr_Willis: just have 3 partitions, one for linux, one for vista (play games) and one for storage of mainly media files for both (i'll probably install games for vista on there when room runs out.
[23:29] <erUSUL> yeahuyen: what directory ?
[23:29] <Dr_Willis> ^Phantom^:  then its in the package manager listing. Fire up synaptic and  look for it. o
[23:29] <blind|melon|chit> gpm: Hmm...paste output of cat /proc/asound/cards to me in a PM
[23:29] <nigtv> if you are in thunar you can right click and say display hidden files
[23:29] <donnybrasco> I can't open the chess ap that comes with 9.04 anymore (since I enabled the 3D view option) anyone know what the problem might be?
[23:29] <bucky> yeahuyen: Applications->Internet->Xchat
[23:29] <yeahuyen> my home directory
[23:29] <jrib> !ot | rasturm
[23:29] <bastidrazor> mezquitale, save your bookmarks as an html then copy the bookmark.html over
[23:29] <nigtv> it should be ~/.xchat i think
[23:29] <archman> jrib, ok i've read it, and yes, it looks like sda5 is under sda3. do i remove it first?
[23:29] <nigtv> or, it could be /etc/xchat
[23:29] <gpm>  1 [USB            ]: USB-Audio - Transit USB
[23:29] <bucky> yeahuyen: if it didn't show up apt-get menu and run menu as user
[23:29] <jrib> yeahuyen: your home directory is /home/your_username, often denoted by "~"
[23:30] <mezquitale> bastidrazor, that's the easy solution but I want to be able to use bookmarks.html so i can synchroze using unison
[23:30] <Dr_Willis> ^Phantom^:  ' sudo apt-get install googleearth' will install it IF you have medibuntu set up properly
[23:30] <yeahuyen> nm i solved it, thank you though
[23:30] <jrib> archman: yes, you'd have to delete all of the logical partitions to delete the extended one I assume
[23:30] <archman> jrib, thanks!
[23:30] <mezquitale> anyone knows how to use "bookmarks.html" with Firefox 3????
[23:30] <^Phantom^> Oh my god!
[23:30] <Dr_Willis> ^Phantom^:  amazing eh?
[23:30] <bucky> yeahuyen: xchat is a gui app.. that means you should have gnome or something to run it
[23:30] <Mkop> update manager seems to have frozen in the middle. Is there any solution other than killing it and hoping nothing gets too borked in the process?
[23:30] <tonii> mezquitale: use how?
[23:30] <nigtv> hmm, maybe i can find a stopwatch program with a bash mode?
[23:30] <Mkop> (sorry if that was a repeat, but I got disconnected)
[23:30] <^Phantom^> I was told to instal googleearth-package
[23:30] <nigtv> i just need a rubiks cube timer in bash lol
[23:30] <Dr_Willis> install the 'googleearth' package... :)
[23:31] <nigtv> i have a scramble script, and now i am going to string it in with a timer, but i need milliseconds
[23:31] <^Phantom^> damnit
[23:31] <Dr_Willis> ^Phantom^:  when in doubt use the package manager.. dont trust peoples spelling/memory
[23:31] <abbazabba> google earth? i've wanted to use that.. medibuntu whats that?
[23:31] <nigtv> and i cannot find a stopwatch that can do milliseconds in bash
[23:31] <alex__> Dr_Willis: Or apt-cache search =)
[23:31] <^Phantom^> I feel (and probably look) so stupid right now D:
[23:31] <Dr_Willis> !medibuntu | abbazabba
[23:31] <Dr_Willis> ^Phantom^:  Yep.. :)
[23:31] <nigtv> and i also kind find a rubiks timer for linux bash
[23:31] <mezquitale> tonii,  if youre not familiar with the issue then youre just as clueless as I am, firefox3 doesn't use "bookmarks.html" to save bookmarks, i want to be able to do that so I can synchronize "bookmarks.html" in my machines using unison
[23:31] <^Phantom^> Sorry for being so rash.
[23:31] <nigtv> or shell, i dont know what to call it
[23:31] <jrib> nigtv: try #bash
[23:31] <nigtv> jrib: k ty
[23:32] <bucky> googleearth-package is in multiverse but it doens't matter... just sudo apt-get install googleearth-package
[23:32] <mezquitale> Dr_Willis, medibuntu is a distro in itself?  Meaning I can't install medibuntu in ubuntu the way I can have kubuntu and ubuntu together?
[23:32] <tonii> mezquitale: Manage Bookmars -> Export Bookmarks -> will produce a file called bookmarks.html, that can be imported to other instances of ff.
[23:32] <alex__> Is there any reason I still need all these old kernal versions? when I boot into grub I have .28-11 .28-13 and .28-14
[23:32] <tonii> mezquitale: your question was quite vague.
[23:32] <erUSUL> mezquitale: no; is repository with some packages in it
[23:32] <rww> mezquitale: medibuntu is a repository for ubuntu. it's not a separate distribution.
[23:33] <erUSUL> !repo > mezquitale
[23:33] <donnybrasco> I can't open the chess application that comes with 9.04 anymore (since I enabled the 3D view option) anyone know what the problem might be?  I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling
[23:33] <mezquitale> hey im installing google earth on my ubuntustudio distro, didnt know you could do that
[23:33] <unitedpotsmokers> hello, where is ubuntu shop in malaysia?
[23:33] <nigtv> jrib: i want more a command line chat
[23:33] <nigtv> but really i think any program with a bash mode would be fine
[23:33] <alex__> donnybrasco: I had the same problem... unfortunatly I have no idea how to fix it... lol
[23:33] <bucky> donnybrasco: does your vid card drivers do 3D ?
[23:33] <mezquitale> erUSUL, thank you
[23:33] <bastidrazor> nigtv, irssi
[23:33] <donnybrasco> bucky: yes
[23:33] <nigtv> ....what about it?
[23:34] <erUSUL> donnybrasco: to be able to enable 3d chess you need to install a couple of python-packages... can not remeber which ones... opengl related
[23:34] <bucky> donnybrasco: ok.. make this easy for me.. which card - which driver
[23:34] <donnybrasco> erUSUL: I installed them
[23:34] <nigtv> blah i think i am googling the wrong thing
[23:34] <erUSUL> donnybrasco: ok
[23:34] <nigtv> like i said someone suggested bc
[23:34] <mezquitale> tonii, that I know.  What I want to do is to use "bookmarks.html" automatically.  Meaning any changes should be saved to "bookmarks.html".  I can import/export manually just find, I want to be able to do it automatically
[23:35] <nigtv> but i really would think that i could just code one
[23:35] <nigtv> blah
[23:35] <donnybrasco> bucky: NVIDIA, restricted drivers - do you need more specific info?
[23:35] <nigtv> ill figure it out im sure this is more simple than im making it lol
[23:35] <tonii> mezquitale: aha
[23:35] <mezquitale> unitedpotsmokers, yes, it's in malaysia just south of madagascar
[23:35] <jrib> nigtv: "bash stopwatch" has some hits
[23:35] <bucky> donnybrasco: good enough.. which chess app ?
[23:36] <flanders> This may sound like a stupid question, but what repository should I add if I want to download/install the lpia kernel on my current Ubuntu installation? (I have two kernels installed, generic and netbook. I would like to give lpia a shot, as well.)
[23:36] <flanders> Right now I usually boot into the netbook kernel image.
[23:36] <blind|melon|chit> bucky: a chess app comes with the ubuntu default install
[23:36] <alex__> Is there any reason I still need all these old kernal versions? when I boot into grub I have .28-11 .28-13 and .28-14
[23:36] <donnybrasco> bucky: NVIDIA GeForce Go 6150 (UMA) ... the game is the chess app included in gnome-games
[23:37] <abbazabba> so eeverybody is saying that linux could add/delete/modify/execute files from ntfs system right?
[23:37] <tonii> mezquitale: I have bookmarks.html in /home/myuser/.mozilla/firefox/.randomletterandnumbers/bookmarks.html
[23:37] <blind|melon|chit> abbazabba, Yes, a few different ways
[23:37] <alex__> abbazabba: Yeah
[23:37] <alumno08> i really have a problem here
[23:38] <bucky> donnybrasco: You are unable to play in 3D mode due to the following problems: No Python OpenGL support No Python GTKGLExt support
[23:38] <sansb> I am trying to install and dual-boot Ubuntu 9.04 onto my RAID0 system with Windows 7 already installed.  So far I have tried followed the FakeRaid How-To guide but end up failing while setting up GRUB (Error 15 and Error 17- can't find disk and can't mount).  I have also tried the Alternate Install CD but apparently Windows 7 has hijacked my MBR and GRUB doesn't work.
[23:38] <alumno08> in some users i lost the keyboard locales
[23:38] <flanders> Anyone have any ideas about the lpia kernel?
[23:38] <verb_> xorg and sound broke after update, help!
[23:38] <blind|melon|chit> bucky: Search for python gtk gl in synaptic, you probably need to install a package
[23:38] <verb_> jaunty
[23:38] <erUSUL> alex__: remove the ones you do not use... just make sure you have linux-image installed « sudo aptitude install linux-image »
[23:38] <donnybrasco> bucky: NVIDIA accelerated graphics driver (version 180)
[23:38] <bucky> flanders: apt-cache show installation-guide-lpia
[23:38] <rz> how do i kill a process running from root, and kill it so it doesnt relaunch
[23:38] <bucky> donnybrasco: You are unable to play in 3D mode due to the following problems: No Python OpenGL support No Python GTKGLExt support
[23:38] <planetary> hey everybody. I am looking for more help on this. i have Xubuntu and I am having problems with the task list (the bar that has the open windows in it)  it doesnt like to switch windows on different workspaces
[23:38] <hayyam> hhh
[23:39] <mezquitale> tonii, you can change [randomnumbers] to anything you like and note the change in your profiles.ini file
[23:39] <donnybrasco> bucky: sorry, just saw that msg
[23:39] <Lenin_Cat> how do you run enemy territory in AOSS :/
[23:39] <blind|melon|chit> rz: sudo kill -9 processid, not recommended
[23:39] <flanders> bucky: Is that the HTML guide?
[23:39] <unitedpotsmokers> i want to buy ubuntu t-shirt nearby me
[23:39] <rz> thanks
[23:39] <bucky> flanders: i don't know.. prolly txt
[23:39] <syntax> ubuntu is tight!!!!
[23:39] <raboof> 'man ulimit' seems a tiny bit misleading: 'ulimit' is actually provided by your shell, and 'man bash' (for example) might reveal much more functionality than 'man ulimit'
[23:40] <raboof> perhaps this should be mentioned in 'man ulimit'?
[23:40] <flanders> bucky: I know where to download the .iso for the lpia version of Ubuntu, but I already have Ubuntu installed and would like to download/install the kernel to use alongside my current one. (To test it out and compare.)
[23:40] <verb_> anyone help please? after normal update I got my xorg and sound broken ( I boot into comand line) I can get to the desktop with startx but the sound is broken also, please help anyone
[23:40] <donnybrasco> bucky: my card doesn't support at all?  If I have Python OpenGL and GTKGLExt installed, should I remove?
[23:40] <flanders> I was thinking that I need to add a repository? This is what I did for the netbook kernel.
[23:40] <blind|melon|chit> Oh, by the way ikonia, if you weren't paying attention I was just answering questions in here. No need to "accidentally" kickban me from the channel again. :P Later everyone
[23:40] <bucky> flanders: sudo apt-get install installation-guide-lpia  and read it
[23:40] <tonii> mezquitale: k, I just pointed out that bookmarks.html exists though.
[23:40] <mechtech> would changing my DNS servers unchoke my bittorrent traffic?
[23:41] <bastidrazor> mechtech, forwarding ports may help
[23:41] <nowimproved> Anyone have the mic working on stickam?
[23:41] <xorrito> can i force idle processes to swap?
[23:41] <verb_> help!
[23:41] <trollboy> using AUTOBUILD to recompile my kernel from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile, using the command: AUTOBUILD=1 fakeroot debian/rules binary-debs   HOWEVER, debian/rules doesn't exist
[23:41] <mechtech> bastidrazor: already forwarded...may need to adjust ufw settings though...getting throughput on some files, but not others
[23:42] <flanders> bucky: It reads like a generic Ubuntu installation guide.
[23:42] <mechtech> !ask | verb
[23:42] <flanders> bucky: Aside from the title of the document, there are no mentions about the lpia kernel.
[23:42] <verb_> mechtech, I think bittorrent connections don't use DNS lookup as they are all IP based
[23:43] <spO> i have ubuntu server edition, i installed ubuntu desktop package , then i did a startx and now i am stuck on a dsektop screen that i cannot do anything... how do i kill this process or escape it
[23:43] <mechtech> verb_: basically I don't want my ISP spying on my bittorrent traffic
[23:43] <alumno08> the keyboard layout was set to default
[23:43] <mezquitale> tonii, congrats in your discovery! LoL  the solution is going to be to manually export my bookmarks every time I make a change, this way unison will pick it up, thanks for the help though, im outie
[23:43] <verb_> mechtech, use encryption
[23:43] <erUSUL> spO: crtl + alt + f1
[23:43] <xorrito> can i force processes i chose to swap?
[23:43] <erUSUL> xorrito: no
[23:44] <donnybrasco> bucky: my card doesn't support Python OpenGL and GTKGLExt at all?  If I have them installed, should I remove them?
[23:44] <xorrito> coo
[23:44] <mechtech> verb_: know a good how-to on that?
[23:44] <xorrito> thx
[23:44] <spO> erusul, that isn't exactuly working
[23:44] <verb_> mechtech, depends on what torrent client you use
[23:44] <erUSUL> spO: try f2 or f3
[23:44] <mechtech> verb_: willing to use any, but currently using transmission
[23:44] <spO> already did try that
[23:44] <rz> blind|melon|chit - it is still relaunching
[23:45] <erUSUL> spO: crtl + alt + backspace ?
[23:45] <spO> i guess i have to reboot
[23:45] <bucky> donnybrasco: i'd try another chess app first
[23:45] <spO> nope
[23:45] <djzn> dudes dudes! what do you think of the following motherboard chipset :  AMD780G/SB700 (Radeon HD3200) Is this a *GOOD* chipset for linux ubuntu, or even better than NVIDIA 8200 and Intel counterparts ????
[23:45] <yeahuyen> can someone tell me why ubuntu jaunty is so slow compared to older versions?
[23:45] <mechtech> blind|melon|chit: "Goin' downtown, gonna see my girl."  LOL
[23:45] <verb_> mechtech, not really sure about transmission, you can google it. I know that utorrent and deluge have encryption
[23:45] <LjL> djzn: try asking in #ubuntu-offtopic rather than here
[23:45] <mechtech> verb_: I love utorrent...they have that for linux?
[23:46] <verb_> mechtech, it runs perfectly on wine
[23:46] <djzn> OK! ty
[23:46] <donnybrasco> bucky: keep Python OpenGL and GTKGLExt installed and try another?
[23:46] <spO> did yany of you install ubuntu server edition rather than desktop edition?
[23:46] <spO> oh
[23:46] <verb_> mechtech, better than deluge and transmission even
[23:46] <spO> now that i installed ubuntu desktop, when i start my computer it loads the desktop rather than console
[23:46] <alumno08> the theme and the keyboard layout was set to default unexpectedly and i cannot fix, help me please
[23:46] <spO> how do i change what is loaded
[23:46] <rz> how do i kill a process running from root, and kill it so it doesnt relaunch
[23:46] <mechtech> verb_: ok...I'll keep that in mind...trying to go native linux as much as possible...don't wanna rely on any MS software
[23:46] <mechtech> verb_: anymore
[23:47] <verb_> mechtech, use deluge then, it's easy
[23:47] <jpds> spO: sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove
[23:47] <mechtech> verb_: thanks, I'll check that out
[23:47] <Kevin1a_> I like deluge, I highly recommend it
[23:47] <LjL> rz: processes don't automatically relaunch unless there is something relaunching them. which process is that?
[23:47] <verb_> mechtech, no problem
[23:47] <spO> what does the server kernel have that the desktop kernel does not have?
[23:47] <verb_> now I need help :D
[23:47] <Kevin1a_> Though sometimes it hangs while starting up.  Might be becuase me computer is underpowered
[23:47] <verb_> my sound and xorg broke after normal update
[23:47] <jpds> spO: Less modules?
[23:48] <msds1502> When i try to boot Ubuntu from GRUB (neoGrub anyway) i get Error 17: File not found.  It says Kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.28-14-generic root=UUIDf9a34018-88e1-4ddd-bc1e-24bbf280d7a6 ro quiet splash
[23:48] <trollboy> anyone?
[23:48] <rz> its an HLDS server
[23:48] <rz> everytime i kill the PID it relaunches under a new PID
[23:48] <verb_> my sound and xorg broke after normal update ANYONE HELP PLS
[23:48] <qkgus> w to async an external hd?
[23:49] <erUSUL> rz: does it have a /etc/init.d/ script ? or one in /etc/event.d/ ?
[23:49] <qkgus> anyone know how to async to an external hd?
[23:49] <rz> no script
[23:50] <bucky> flanders: there's an alternate install cd here http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/jaunty/release/
[23:50] <alumno08> help me please
[23:50] <erUSUL> rz: how did you launch it ?
[23:50] <verb_> I need your help ANYONE my sound and xorg broke after normal update...can you help?
[23:50] <spO> i think it is more practical to install the desktop edition then uninstall modules ...... the server edition is giving me too many problems... maybe i will find a website that will tell me what modules are different exactly
[23:50] <alumno08> the theme and the keyboard layout was set to default unexpectedly and i cannot fix, help me please
[23:50] <erUSUL> alumno08: system<Preferences>keyboard ?
[23:50] <mechtech> !ask | alumno08
[23:50] <jpds> spO: What are you trying to accomplish?
[23:50] <coordinador> erUSUL, it doesnt take effect
[23:50] <erUSUL> spO: appart from modules there are other differences
[23:50] <spO> jpds, a mixture of desktop and server
[23:51] <jpds> spO: Why?
[23:51] <spO> erusul, kernel differences , right?
[23:51] <erUSUL> coordinador: what ?
[23:51] <spO> jpds, for one, i want to learn more
[23:51] <erUSUL> spO: yes
[23:51] <coordinador> erUSUL, suddenly the keyboard layout and themes set to default
[23:51] <coordinador> and i cannot change
[23:51] <coordinador> i dont know why, in all users happen the same
[23:51] <verb_> mechtech, 1312 people in this channel and most don't help :(
[23:51] <archman> jrib, thanks! it's working! :)
[23:51] <DrMrHorse> my hardy won't boot.  jaunty on another partition works fine. in recovery, the crawl stops at the reference to the cd-rom drive. i can read, write, and fsck the partition that hardy is (or was) on. any help?
[23:51] <jpds> spO: OK, server kernel is really suppose to be installed on server hardware.
[23:52] <spO> like what do you mean server hardware?
[23:52] <coordinador> maybe some permissions... but i dont know which file i should watch
[23:52] <mechtech> verb_: what's wrong?
[23:52] <qkgus> anyone know how to async to an external hd?
[23:52] <verb_> mechtech, my system broke after update
[23:52] <NantoRokuseiken> which is the lightest ubuntu based linux with ext4 as default fs?
[23:52] <erUSUL> coordinador: did you see any error messages ?
[23:52] <msds1502> When i try to boot Ubuntu from GRUB (neoGrub anyway) i get Error 17: File not found.  It says Kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.28-14-generic root=UUIDf9a34018-88e1-4ddd-bc1e-24bbf280d7a6 ro quiet splash.  I check /boot/ and the kernel is there, but i'm still getting that error.
[23:52] <mechtech> verb_: broke in what way?
[23:52] <rz> I laucnhed it with sudo .,
[23:52] <verb_> xorg and sound
[23:52] <rz> sudo ./
[23:52] <erUSUL> coordinador: like gnome-settings-daemon dying ?
[23:52] <Mike_lifeguard> What does the + mean in drwxr-xr-x+ or -rw-------+ ?
[23:53] <rz> I give up im just gonna reboot
[23:53] <rz> lol
[23:53] <jpds> spO: Shiny stuff like http://tinyurl.com/kt6lbu
[23:53] <conal> i have a new external hard drive that i want to use mainly in ubuntu and sometimes in os x, with read & write on both.  i'd appreciate recommendations for file system choice.
[23:53] <verb_> 1312 people in this channel and most don't help :(
[23:54] <msds1502> verb_: no kidding :(
[23:54] <verb_> HELP ANYONE
[23:54] <verb_> xorg and sound down after normal update
[23:55] <verb_> jaunty
[23:55] <erUSUL> verb_: how did you installed your hardware drivers ?
[23:55] <jpds> !patience | verb_
[23:55] <msds1502> Verb_: you using GRUB?
[23:55] <erUSUL> verb_: graphic drivers*
[23:55] <coordinador> coordinador, no
[23:55] <spO> so everyone in here installed the desktop edition rather than the desktop edition?
[23:55] <verb_> erUSUL, I used the drivers which come out of the box
[23:55] <coordinador> erUSUL,  no, i havent see any messages, even i ve restarted the machine
[23:55] <verb_> msds1502, yes
[23:55] <xFlux> does ubuntu have any block level dedupe fs's?
[23:55] <erUSUL> coordinador: then i dunno what may it be...
[23:56] <jpds> spO: Don't think so :)
[23:56] <msds1502> verb_: trying booting back to an older kernel.
[23:56] <verb_> msds1502, how?
[23:56] <coordinador> erUSUL, ok thanks anyway
[23:56] <spO> so everyone in here installed the desktop edition rather than the server edition?
[23:56] <erUSUL> spO: i have  desktop computer... what should i have installed ;)
[23:56] <xFlux> I have multiple 9.04 servers
[23:57] <jpds> spO: Yes, I have.
[23:57] <msds1502> Verb_: Grub should have listed like 3-4.  Either try recover mode or one with a lower number 2.6.28-13 versus 2.6.28-14
[23:57] <spO> xflux, so you installed the server edition right, did you install any xwin on any of those boxes?
[23:57] <xFlux> hell no lol
[23:57] <Covert> hey guys
[23:57] <spO> xflux, you say hell no because why?
[23:57] <verb_> msds1502, thank you, I will try this now and see
[23:57] <Covert> im having installation trouble
[23:57] <verb_> msds1502, very much appreciated :D
[23:57] <xFlux> The idea of a server is to keep it bare miniumum.  You are creating your own platform to serve exactly what you need and no more.
[23:58] <msds1502> idk if it will work
[23:58] <msds1502> but its worth a try anyway'
[23:58] <Covert> when i press install on the dvd it shows a ubuntu background but no install thing comes up
[23:58] <verb_> hope it works
[23:58] <msds1502> When i try to boot Ubuntu from GRUB (neoGrub anyway) i get Error 17: File not found.  It says Kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.28-14-generic root=UUIDf9a34018-88e1-4ddd-bc1e-24bbf280d7a6 ro quiet splash.  I check /boot/ and the kernel is there, but i'm still getting that error??
[23:58] <xFlux> Not to mention X Desktops are bloated and resource intensive....Not something you want hanging over your head in a server platform
[23:59] <erUSUL> coordinador: can you try this ? « ps ax | grep gnome-settings » does it return anything ?
[23:59] <Covert> when i press install on the dvd it shows a ubuntu background but no install thing comes up