[00:41] <pteague_work> is there a way to get the xfce terminal to open defaulting to the 1st tab rather than the last tab when restoring a session on login?
[01:31] <yesitjustme> i tried connecting my hdtv on my computer to use as a monitor but is not displaying, on my pc i use a vga 15 pin male to male cable what could be wrong?
[02:09] <matthew> hello. Why is the check for updates disabled in firefox?
[02:10] <MTec007> is there a valid reason? if not how to i reverse that?
[02:10] <pteague_work> what dev & kernel packages do i need in order to compile alsa sound drivers?
[02:12] <th0r> MTec007: it would have helped if you had restated the question after going through the nick changes. The reason is that firefox is updated through synaptic. If the update feature of firefox was enabled synaptic would never know what version you had installed
[02:12] <xylox> pteague, i suppose build-essential
[02:13] <th0r> pteague: you might also try apt-get build-dep <packagename> (I think that is it)
[02:14] <MTec007> th0r: what if that doesnt matter to me?
[02:14] <xylox> what's up th0r, how you doing
[02:15] <th0r> MTec007: you can uninstall firefox in synaptic and then install the generic download from the mozilla website. That will enable the updates from mozilla
[02:15] <th0r> hi xylox
[02:15] <MTec007> also what exactly is firefox ubuntu modification add on? what does it do? i disabled it..
[02:16] <MTec007> i once heard that uninstalling firefox will mess something up in xubuntu?
[02:16] <th0r> MTec007: not sure....I imagine it is just a package to make firefox conform to the default icon and window dressing package for ubuntu
[02:17] <th0r> MTec007: it might...not sure. I actually don't do updates...too many headaches, so never tried the firefox thing
[02:18] <MTec007> okay
[02:19] <MTec007> im still waiting on firefox 3.5.. someone in here told me it was going to be added within a few days of the release
[02:19] <th0r> MTec007: it is available, but as shiretoko or some such. won't be officially part of ubuntu til 9.10
[02:20] <th0r> !ff35
[02:21] <MTec007> i dont like the mislabeled firefox
[02:21] <MTec007> lol
[02:27] <MTec007> thanks th0r
[03:14] <null> Question:  Does the ubuntu install CD offer full hard drive encryption on installation?  using dm-crypt?
[03:26] <_Kai> hi all
[03:28] <_Kai> need some help
[03:28] <_Kai> anyone awake?
[03:29] <th0r> _Kai: you will get a better answer if you ask a question
[04:24] <zhxk> hello, why xubuntu? since ubuntu is there.
[04:24] <th0r> zhxk: not everyone wants the overhead of gnome or kde
[04:25] <zhxk> so, xubuntu can be run on older macnine?
[04:26] <zhxk> well, i found k-meleon very fast and light on windows.
[04:26] <zhxk> is there the alternative on xubuntu, or other linux distro?
[05:24] <Bass|CdOb> hey
[05:25] <Bass|CdOb> i'm installing Xubuntu, but unfortunately, the Keyboard isnt working
[05:25] <Bass|CdOb> I've tried both wireless and wired, and restarted and still couldnt use the keyboard
[05:25] <Bass|CdOb> any suggestios?
[05:31] <mikubuntu> gee, i thought when i upgraded from my 256 memory to 2gb my youtubes, and yahoo music and such would play without skipping.  what gives?
[05:32] <Bass|CdOb> mikubuntu, do you have experience with xubuntu?
[05:32] <mikubuntu> yes, fairly
 hey
 i'm installing Xubuntu, but unfortunately, the Keyboard isnt working
 I've tried both wireless and wired, and restarted and still couldnt use the keyboard
 any suggestios?
[05:33] <mikubuntu> hmmm.  i'm not really any kind of expert.  but, what kind of keyboard are you using?
[05:34] <mikubuntu> what type of computer?
[05:34] <mikubuntu> if your keyboard is ps2, have you tried with a usb?
[05:34] <mikubuntu> or vice-vers?
[05:35] <mikubuntu> or if its a usb, have you tried a separate usb port?
[05:36] <mikubuntu> i had that happn once on an install and it turnd out the usb port was bad.  tryed a different port and it workd.
[05:37] <mikubuntu> *tried
[05:39] <mikubuntu> Bass|CdOb, ?
[05:39] <mikubuntu> gee, i thought when i upgraded from my 256 memory to 2gb my youtubes, and yahoo music and such would play without skipping.  what gives?
[05:43] <Bass|CdOb> im using
[05:43] <Bass|CdOb> a ps2
[05:43] <Bass|CdOb> and it is a USB
[05:43] <Bass|CdOb> and i tried both
[05:43] <Bass|CdOb> the wireless
[05:43] <Bass|CdOb> had like this 2 in 1 adapter
[05:43] <Bass|CdOb> adapter takes both mouse and keyboard
[06:18] <n2diy> I just realized that I'm running Xubuntu 8.04, shouldn't Update Manager be offering me as dist. upgrade, like Ubuntu does?
[06:23] <mikubuntu> gee, i thought when i upgraded from my 256 memory to 2gb my youtubes, and yahoo music and such would play without skipping.  what gives?
[06:24] <mikubuntu> n2diy, you have to set preferences for it to offer you dist upgrade
[06:24] <mikubuntu> im pretty sure
[06:24] <n2diy> mikubuntu: ah, yes, I may have over looked that, thanks.
[06:25] <n2diy> mikubuntu: and I can do that in Synaptic, IIRC?
[06:25] <mikubuntu> anybody have any clue why my music still skipping?
[06:25] <mikubuntu> ummm, lemme think
[06:26] <mikubuntu> i think it could be in the tabs of the software sources utility
[06:26] <mikubuntu> can someone with a better memory help me confirm for n2diy
[06:28] <mikubuntu> n2diy, ya in software sources under updates
[06:34] <n2diy> mikubuntu: Ok, I selected to only go with LTS releases.
[07:50] <TuxPurple> any op here?
[08:42] <Vikki052> hey all
[08:45] <Vikki052> ne1 here?
[09:07] <mikubuntu> gee, i thought when i upgraded from my 256 memory to 2gb my youtubes, and yahoo music and such would play without skipping.  what gives?
[09:08] <mikubuntu> The_Sheep, no ideas?
[09:29] <Vikki052> ne1 here?
[09:47] <zhxk> i've installed xubuntu on my slow computer now
[10:14] <zhxk> xubuntu still very slow on my computer
[10:14] <psycho_oreos> what specs?
[10:16] <zhxk> pardon?
[10:16] <zhxk> celeron 733mhz 256m
[10:16] <psycho_oreos> what are your computer specifications? the one that is running xubuntu
[10:16] <psycho_oreos> ah
[10:17] <psycho_oreos> hmm 256 is somewhat small
[10:17] <zhxk> 4m video memory
[10:18] <psycho_oreos> yeah even smaller lol
[10:18] <psycho_oreos> you won't be able to run high res lol
[10:19] <zhxk> all is somewaht samll
[10:19] <zhxk> its a notebook, i sometime use it to download file while before go to bed
[10:20] <zhxk> it have a 100m nic
[10:21] <psycho_oreos> it'd probably be more ideal if you ran something like DSL
[10:21] <zhxk> it runs well on windows xp,  can open decates of page
[10:21] <zhxk> decades
[10:22] <zhxk> with a opensource browser, based on mozilla engine
[10:22] <psycho_oreos> and windows != linux.. vice versa
[10:22] <Araneidae> (x)ubuntu is a big hefty distribution, but maybe an even lighter desktop will help
[10:22] <zhxk> linux ought be better oterwise
[10:23] <zhxk> otherwise
[10:23] <psycho_oreos> it is better but you can't expect to compare open source with a proprietary software
[10:23] <Araneidae> Ubuntu is a little bit bloated, struggles on small boxes
[10:23] <zhxk> without gtk2?
[10:23] <psycho_oreos> windows lacks heaps of features compared to linux, that's probably one of the reasons why it has a reasonably small footprint
[10:24] <Araneidae> Well, there are plenty of small footprint linuxes...
[10:24] <Araneidae> and xfce is still quite a big desktop, I think
[10:24] <Araneidae> Try a lightweight desktop, maybe something like openbox?
[10:24] <zhxk> actually, i need a lightweght browser
[10:24] <psycho_oreos> lynx
[10:24] <psycho_oreos> lol
[10:25] <psycho_oreos> I think lxde runs on small footprint
[10:26] <zhxk> lxde?
[10:26] <zhxk> i know lynx is text based browser
[10:26] <psycho_oreos> yes lynx is text based, lxde I think is a de that was used in knoppix 6.1
[10:26] <Araneidae> Google says: LXDE.org | Lightweight X11 Desktop Environment (www.lxde.org)
[10:26] <zhxk> i want a fullfledged browser, which can play flw
[10:27] <Araneidae> Well, if your machine is small, you need to reduce memory consumption everywhere you can.
[10:27] <zhxk> linux shorts browser
[10:28]  * Araneidae goes to take a closer look at lxde
[10:28] <Araneidae> eh?
[10:28] <zhxk> no good liightweight browser on linux
[10:28] <psycho_oreos> there is/are
[10:28] <zhxk> firefox a bit expensive
[10:28] <psycho_oreos> you just have to look for them
[10:29] <knome> zhxk, epiphany. midori.
[10:29] <psycho_oreos> firefox starts off light but has mem leak issues
[10:30] <zhxk> it seems c coded program often  leak resources, but c++ is good
[10:30] <Araneidae> hahahaha
[10:30]  * Araneidae thinks C++ was a big mistake
[10:30] <zhxk> you will consider when should free resource while you plan to alloc
[10:31] <zhxk> you will get messed using c
[10:31] <zhxk> you need to be aidded with uml tools otherwise
[10:32] <psycho_oreos> and if you were right then you should probably look for another platform
[10:32] <Araneidae> And you think C++ magically gets it right?  Don't we all wish...
[10:32] <psycho_oreos> most of linux (btw linux technically is actually just a kernel) source are either C or ASM
[10:32] <zhxk> windows actually have lots of com that written in c++, and all functions good
[10:33] <psycho_oreos> again comparing against proprietary product
[10:33] <Araneidae> whatever (my contempt for windows will not fit into this conversation...)
[10:35] <psycho_oreos> I don't understand why people love to pit it against windows, there are some similarities but it is not the equivalent
[10:35] <zhxk> i think linux should learn sth from windows
[10:35] <psycho_oreos> its like comparing against a generic medicine vs a proprietary medicine
[10:35] <psycho_oreos> linux doesn't need to learn much from windows.. if they do, redmond will happily be handing out fines
[10:36] <psycho_oreos> will you be happy to pay for those fees?
[10:37] <zhxk> maybe since its free, so no quality garantee
[10:37] <Araneidae> psycho_oreos, thanks for the pointer to lxde.  Going to give that a quick try
[10:37] <psycho_oreos> better than paying for a software that prevents you from doing this and that and other things like running things behind your back
[10:38] <psycho_oreos> Araneidae, nw
[10:39] <psycho_oreos> and here we have someone who wants more from community provided food for the masses.. aren't you asking a bit too much? or do you have such a high expectancy that you fail to be more lenient?
[10:40] <psycho_oreos> there are paid support and commercial linux distributions, if you want this and that, you better start forking out money
[10:40] <zhxk> honest, linux needs more arts job to work
[10:40] <psycho_oreos> linux needs less whingers/complainers
[10:40] <Araneidae> ^^^ this
[10:41] <zhxk> i already started that, forking out energy
[10:41] <psycho_oreos> and windows needs no energy? poor comparison
[10:41] <psycho_oreos> and btw energy != money
[10:42] <zhxk> windows is overwellming
[10:43] <psycho_oreos> yeah for someone who likes payware but couldn't afford to fork out money for commercial versions of linux yet complains about free linux distributions being poor workmanship
[10:43] <psycho_oreos> makes perfect sense
[10:46] <zhxk> dude, linux should be good before fork out memory for
[10:46] <tash> can someone help me mount a usb had drive
[10:46] <psycho_oreos> and that made no sense zhxk, again complaining when you are getting something that is literally free?
[10:46] <tash> is there a terminal command i can use
[10:47] <psycho_oreos> if you're so happy with windows why not stick with it? take your complaints elsewhere
[10:47] <psycho_oreos> tash, there is fdisk -l and man mount
[10:47] <tash> will fdisk not clear my harddrive?
[10:48] <tash> i don want to remove the files on it
[10:49] <psycho_oreos> no when you parse fdisk -l (note -l) it will list detected hard drives and their partition
[10:50] <psycho_oreos> man fdisk for more info
[10:51] <Araneidae> Maybe `cat /proc/partitions` is more direct!
[10:52] <Araneidae> tash, yes, I've got the same situation: just inserted a (formatted) USB device
[10:53] <Araneidae> It didn't automount, but it now appears in /proc/partitions (as sdf and sdf1)
[10:53] <Araneidae> Wonder why it didn't automount...
[10:53] <psycho_oreos> hmm interesting
[10:53] <Araneidae> And, for what it's worth, `fdisk -l` (as ordinary user) says not a thing!
[10:53] <tash> Araneidae, how did you then access it
[10:54] <Araneidae> Oh, I have to mount it.
[10:54] <psycho_oreos> though I guess I'm used to the way fdisk -l organises the disks and the layout with partition type, etc
[10:54] <Araneidae> For example, `mount /dev/sdf1 /media/special` should to the trick
[10:54] <psycho_oreos> ahh I forgot you need to use sudo for those commands (i.e. sudo for fdisk and sudo for mount)
[10:54] <psycho_oreos> !mount
[10:55] <Araneidae> Yes: `sudo mount /dev/sdf1 /media/special` (or any other mount point of your choice) does the job
[10:55] <Araneidae> Not altogether friendly, though: *should* have automounted!
[10:56] <Araneidae> psycho_oreos, well, the nice thing about `cat /proc/partitions` is that it doesn't require root
[10:56] <psycho_oreos> weird to hear that its not getting automounted.. are you both using 8.10 or latter versions of ubuntu?
[10:56] <tash> sadly i see no good results yet :(
[10:56] <psycho_oreos> Araneidae, that's true
[10:56] <Araneidae> I'm Ubuntu 9.04
[10:56] <psycho_oreos> Araneidae, but I guess I'm slightly old fashioned, I use fdisk -l on other distros lol
[10:57] <psycho_oreos> Araneidae, weird, my devices always automount
[10:57] <Araneidae> tash, what does /proc/partitions have to say?
[10:57] <psycho_oreos> well yeah by default it should automount and open up thunar to reveal the contents of the automounted drive/partition
[10:57] <psycho_oreos> I suggest you use pastebin if pasting it in here
[10:57] <psycho_oreos> !pastebin
[10:57] <Araneidae> Well, I'm currently not using a standard desktop
[10:58] <tash> Araneidae, has 4 tings
[10:58] <Araneidae>  -- currently got openbox loaded
[10:58] <psycho_oreos> Araneidae, ahh using some other de/wm?
[10:58] <psycho_oreos> ahh
[10:58] <Araneidae> It's *nearly* what I want...
[10:58] <psycho_oreos> I'm on standard one (xfce) and yeah it has options that you can tick/check to have it automounted and what not
[10:58] <Araneidae> Got a couple of annoying features I haven't figured my way around yet...
[10:59] <Araneidae> tash, list the fourth column only
[10:59] <tash> psycho_oreos, where are hose xfce options?
[10:59] <psycho_oreos> tash, sudo mkdir /media/disk && sudo mount -t auto /dev/<insert_partition_here_i.e._sda2> /media/disk
[11:00] <Araneidae> Yeah: we haven't got the <insert_partion_here...> bit yet!
[11:00] <zhxk> lets make linux better together
[11:00] <tash> sda, sda1, sda2, sda5
[11:00] <Araneidae> Settings buried in Applications->Settings menus I would guess
[11:01] <Araneidae> Those are all your hard disk partitions.  Are you sure the USB device is plugged in?
[11:01] <psycho_oreos> tash, its under settings > removeable drives and media
[11:01] <Araneidae> Try lsusb
[11:01] <tash> thanks
[11:02] <Araneidae> Huh.  My USB card doesn't appear under lsusb?  That's odd
[11:02] <psycho_oreos> what sort of card?
[11:02] <psycho_oreos> maybe you might need sudo ;)
[11:02] <Araneidae> Oh, maybe it does.  Just shows the manufacturer name
[11:03] <Araneidae> Think it's this guy: ID 3538:0054 Power Quotient International Co., Ltd
[11:03] <Araneidae> Yep: unplugged it and it's gone.
[11:04] <psycho_oreos> too bad there's no lspci -k equivalent for lsusb
[11:04] <Araneidae> So, tash, what does lsusb tell us?  Is your USB memory stick actually plugged in?
[11:04] <Araneidae> Useful option!
[11:05] <Araneidae> alas
[11:05] <Araneidae> Where does automount happen?  Must be something to do with udev device notifications...
[11:06] <psycho_oreos> yeah I'm not quite sure how it works, udev and automountd?
[11:06] <Araneidae> Well, I know that udev is told when drivers are initialised in the kernel, and it then populates /dev
[11:07] <Araneidae> Don't know what happens after that, though.
[11:07] <Araneidae> Nothing called automountd on my box...
[11:09] <psycho_oreos> yeah same here, hmm I know automountd is/was responsibie for automatically mounting any unmounted partitions/drives
[11:09] <Araneidae> All sorts of interesting things in /etc/udev/rules.d, but nothing that seems relevant to automount
[11:11] <psycho_oreos> udevadm may show something interesting heh
[11:14] <zhxk> hello, xfce4 upper and lower bars gone, why?
[11:15] <Araneidae> Huh: `udevadm info` needs rather specific queries
[11:15] <SiDi_> Alt+F2 then type xfce4-panel zhxk
[11:15] <SiDi_> i think there are a few bugs about the panels on launchpad, btw
[11:16] <zhxk> Sidi:thanks, it appears now
[11:24] <zhxk> why it become this? it happens after upgraded from source
[11:53] <zhxk_> hello
[11:53] <zhxk> hello
[12:14] <zhxk> hello, anybody help solve this problem? upperbar and lowerbar missing after boot into xfce4
[12:14] <zhxk> this happens after upgraded system after system install
[12:20] <asker> hello, what's wrong? the upperbar and lowerbar to xfce4 dont show
[14:25] <zhxk_> hello, anybody see netsurf? it's good
[14:57] <Michse> hello i tried to install xubuntu 9.04 but when the installation menu comes up i just get this http://img204.imageshack.us/i/bild1941.jpg/ when i hit "love" there just comes up an popup which says "install"
[15:15] <SiDi> hi Michse
[15:15] <SiDi> is this the LiveCD or the Alternate CD ?
[15:15] <Michse> LiveCD
[15:16] <Michse> i tried to install debian 5.0 and got an kernel panic :/ http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/9964/bild1950.jpg
[15:16] <Michse> (after several attempts with the xubuntu desktop and alternate disc)
[15:16] <SiDi> Alright, push F6 on the LiveCD's menu, and uncheck stuff like acpi
[15:20] <Michse> uhm im just using the live cd to write this text :/ wait a sec
[15:39] <zhxk_> hello gentlemen, how to specify include dir for make?
[17:04] <Bass|CdOb> hey
[17:04] <Bass|CdOb> I'm on Xubuntu right now, but it seems like I cant install it
[17:41] <planetary> I am having som trouble getting electric sheep to work on 9.04. some help would be appreciated
[17:43] <TheSheep> details?
[17:43] <TheSheep> you can't really expect anyone to help you with just this information
[17:45] <vidd> i thought sheep were grass-powered-wool-produces....they run on electricity now?=]
[17:45] <planetary> ok well i did the install shell script and it came up with errors at the end. and it is not working. i looked on ES website for help
[17:45] <planetary> haha
[17:45] <planetary> its a cool screensaver
[17:46] <planetary> i would like to post the errors but i lost the terminal and forget how to get a log of it
[17:48] <vidd> planetary, im not sure i would run a script asking for my root passwd
[17:49] <charlie-tca> You can look in /var/log/dpkg and /var/log/dmesg for information on it
[17:50] <charlie-tca> There might be something there
[17:51] <planetary> here is athe webpage i used  http://community.sheepserver.net/node/51
[17:52] <vidd> planetary, have you opened the script and actually READ it?
[17:54] <planetary> ya it seems fine
[17:54] <vidd> so rather then running the script, enter each line into terminal
[17:55] <SiDi> this script is bad
[17:55] <SiDi> it executes code from their svn without letting you explicitely know
[17:55] <SiDi> If it had been a virus you would have lost all your data, planetary
[17:55] <SiDi> you should be much more careful
[17:56] <vidd> yeah....
[17:56] <vidd> like i said.....i wont run a script that wants my password
[17:57] <planetary> ohh ya that make sense. I am still a noob to this stuff
[17:58] <SiDi> planetary: when you are asked to execute a script or executable of any kind, you should refuse
[17:58] <planetary> so what should i do. I had it on my 8.04 version, then they upgraded their version. i would like to have it on my new version, 9.04
[17:58] <SiDi> only take the applications inside our repositories
[17:58] <SiDi> if you really need something from outside, make sure others never had problems with it, or come here and ask us
[17:59] <vidd> it can also (especially since you gave it your passwd) install a rootkit on your system
[17:59] <planetary> ok. i wasn't thinking
[17:59] <SiDi> Now, about your problem with electric sheep, well, im sorry but i have no idea
[17:59] <planetary> ok
[17:59] <SiDi> It looks like it takes their very latest version from their site and tries to install it
[17:59] <SiDi> you might be lacking packages, or they might have broken the latest version
[17:59] <vidd> you can right now be spamming the world or being used as a bot-net controller
[18:00]  * vidd would HIGHLY recommend you get an anti-rootkit app
[18:00] <vidd> !rootkit
[18:00] <planetary> haha dang, im sure im not the only one
[18:00] <SiDi> vidd: i think he understood ;)
[18:00] <SiDi> and electric sheep is quite known actually, i doubt it does anything wrong
[18:01] <vidd> !rkhunter
[18:01] <SiDi> but a bit of paranoia is always welcome
[18:01]  * vidd trusts NO_ONE
[18:01] <SiDi> he doesnt even trust himself
[18:02] <SiDi> he does DNA tests every morning to check if he's still himself
[18:02] <vidd> hehe
[18:02] <planetary> ok soo, how would i get rid of what was installed
[18:02] <planetary> haha
[18:02] <vidd> planetary, you'd need to find out what was actually installed
[18:03] <planetary> ah, and how do i check that?
[18:04] <vidd> there should be a "flam3"directory and a "flam3/client" folder in whatever directory you started the script in
[18:04] <vidd> read the files there to find out what should have been done during the make and make installs, and undo it
[18:05] <planetary> well the makesheep.sh is on my desktop. now there is a electric sheep folder
[18:05] <vidd> or, if your REALLY paranoid (like me) back up your data, format and re-install
[18:07] <planetary> hmm i wonder if it should. my only other issue with this install is that my task list is screwy. i have compiz on and the task list doesnt like to work with it
[18:08] <planetary> if i click on a window that is on another workspace  it doesnt do anything
[18:16] <planetary>  vidd, so how do i undo it?
[18:17] <vidd> planetary, you read the make files, find out what they tried to do and undo it
[18:18] <vidd> im not downloading and running that script to get that info.....
[18:18] <vidd> =]
[18:18] <vidd> this machine has access to too much important stuff
[18:19] <vidd> (i work for an ISP and have access to all kinds of sensitive data)
[18:20] <planetary> ya but i dont understand how to do that. the make file doesn't make sense to me :(
[18:22] <vidd> planetary, i dont know all that much about compiling from source so im not a good person to ask =\
[18:24] <vidd> planetary, im checking what svn co does....
[18:24] <vidd> brb
[18:25] <vidd> subversion is an innocuous program, so its safe for me to install
[18:26] <planetary> so what are you doing?
[18:26] <vidd> so its first creating a folder named electricsheep-date
[18:26] <Alaric`> localtime(time)), folks ....   anyone here running 9.04 on an Inspiron 4100?  I have a fan problem I'm seeking a solution for.
[18:27] <vidd> i needed the man pages for subversion so i can find out what svn co meant
[18:27] <Alaric`> oops, dropped a paren there  ;)
[18:28] <planetary> vidd, thanks but i dont want you to have a problem
[18:28] <vidd> planetary, come to #xubuntu-offtopic
[18:28] <planetary> ok
[18:28] <vidd> no problem here
[18:29] <Alaric`> capsule summary:  the fans on the laptop never run, causing it to overheat, unless I load the i8k module.  i8k.ko + i8kmon runs the cooling fans properly, BUT i8k.ko disables the keyboard as soon as it loads, and I can't get the keyboard back except by rebooting without i8k.
[18:31] <Alaric`> anyone know a solution?
[18:47] <SiDi> Alaric`: might wanna try #ubuntu-kernel
[18:48] <SiDi> they may know more about modules than us, or help you to find info about this, or procedures to test new kernels / report bugs to kernel.org
[18:50] <Alaric`> roger that, will give'em a try
[18:50] <Alaric`> thanks  :)
[18:53] <owen1_> how to sync the clock from a terminal based ubuntu?
[18:55] <vidd> owen1_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime
[18:56] <owen1_> vidd: thank you
[18:56] <vidd> owen1_, np
[18:58] <owen1_> i run sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata and get: Local time is now:      Wed Jul 29 03:58:08 PDT 2009.
[18:58] <owen1_> which is not true for LA..
[18:58] <owen1_> i mean , i run it and tell ubuntu i am in LA.
[19:04] <charlie-tca> owen1_: Is the computer bios clock set to UTC?
[19:12] <owen1_> charlie-tca: do i need to go to bios to figure it out?
[19:13] <charlie-tca> probably. If the bios clock is set to local time and ubuntu thinks it is set to UTC, it will be off by about what it is.
[19:13] <vidd> owen1_, what time server you looking @?
[19:14] <owen1_> vidd: not sure i understand your question. i want local time, in LA.
[19:14] <owen1_> i use date command
[19:14] <charlie-tca> Looks to be off by about 13 hours
[19:15] <vidd> owen1_, set up your system to use nttp so it will auto-update and syncronize with a time server
[19:16] <vidd> owen1_, your bios is set to local time, and tzdata is expecting it to be utc time
[19:18] <vidd> owen1_, check out http://www.computerhope.com/unix/udate.htm
[19:21] <owen1_> vidd: i'll do it. thanks!
[19:25] <dKingston> hello
[19:26] <dKingston> I just updated my new installation of Xubuntu, and now when I try to login, it just does nothing
[19:26] <dKingston> it has the cursor
[19:26] <dKingston> and a light blue background
[19:26] <dKingston> im on the same box (recovery mode)
[20:01] <psycho_oreos> any of you know exactly where xfce4 keeps the autostart applications? on ibex I used to manually add my own .desktop into /etc/xdg/autostart but using the GUI method now I can see the entries in GUI but I can't find or pinpoint the exact location of where such files are stored... what annoys me more is the lack of ability for autostart applications once created to be edited without having to remove and add again.
[20:03] <vidd> psycho_oreos, ~/.config/autostart
[20:03] <psycho_oreos> vidd, ahh thanks
[20:12] <psycho_oreos> th0r, so what was the issue with those ath chipsets?
[20:29] <S0210> Something created a "Nyilvános" directory in /home/user/ . (It means something like "Public" in Hungarian.) How can I check what (and why) put it there?
[20:30] <vidd> S0210, that is standard in all *buntu's since 9.04 (possibly earlier)
[20:32] <vidd> S0210, "Documents", "Music", "Pictures", "Public", "Templates", and "Videos" are all stock folders
[20:32] <S0210> but what is it for?
[20:33] <vidd> S0210, cuzz the powers that be decided "you will have this"
[20:33] <charlie-tca> compliance with freedesktop.org specs
[20:33] <S0210> OK. thanks. :-)
[20:33] <vidd> someone needs to fix the specs
[20:34] <vidd> more forcefeeding crap
[20:34] <vidd> =\
[21:10] <planetary> hello, does anyone have compiz on their xubuntu 9.04?
[21:28] <S0210> what's the easiest way to share a directory through internet? ftpd?
[21:30] <knome> S0210, ssh/sftp is the easiest/safest
[21:41] <m4rk> hi there! is there a faster browser than FF for xubuntu/xfce?
[21:41] <knome> m4rk, you can try epiphany and midori, but the latter is in alpha stage.
[21:41] <m4rk> okey dokey! thanks
[21:43] <SiDi> (chromium-browser)
[21:43] <SiDi> (alpha too :p)
[21:44] <m4rk> SiDi: I'm really looking for something that doesn't need a whole lot of resources
[21:44] <SiDi> im serious, m4rk
[21:44] <m4rk> ok
[21:44] <SiDi> its quite efficient and its more elaborated than midori and epiphany
[21:45] <SiDi> but its in alpha stage so i recommand you to have a backup browser ;)
[22:01] <planetary> I need help with my task list
[22:02] <planetary> its not working well with compiz. i even reinstalled compiz
[22:02] <planetary> switching windows sucks
[22:05] <planetary> it doesnt respond to me clicking a window that it on another workspace
[22:06] <planetary> 9.04 with compiz
[22:08] <planetary> but thats only when i have a window selected
[22:10] <planetary> if i have a window that is on another workspace, if i click it the cube will rotate to that workspace and bring up the window i selected in the task list, Bottom bar
[22:10] <planetary> brb
[22:17] <planetary> if i click off of the currnet window or minimize it then if i click another window it will take me there like it should
[22:39] <planetary> ok so now i discovered that it will only not work right if i have a window selected or active and then swithc to another window that is a different program. 2 firefoxes work fine 2  thunar work fine. though i cant have an active thunar and select a firefox, it will do nothing
[23:48] <planetary> how can i get Slacker Radio(.com) to play music. my other systems do. I have restricted extras installed