[00:00] <BluesKaj> GS3User007, do you have a kubuntu live cd ?
[00:01] <GS3User007> nothing with ext4 support
[00:01] <GS3User007> BluesKaj: I am dling a copy of karmic right now though
[00:02] <GS3User007> BluesKaj: I assume that "sudo update-grub" made a backup copy of the previous menu.lst somewhere?
[00:02] <GS3User007> BluesKaj: If so, where would it be, and would putting it back into /boot/grub/ fix my issue?
[00:08] <BluesKaj> GS3User007, I'm not sure which version of grub is defasult on karmic but i suspect it's grub2 in which case the file has changed from /boot/grub/menu.lst to   /boot/grub/grub.cfg from
[00:09] <BluesKaj> GS3User007, ignore thatr last "from" :)
[00:13] <GS3User007> BluesKaj: I was hoping to just mount the exising / partition and replace the new file the tool generated with the old one...
[00:14] <qw[bline]> my system cpu usage goes way up when the system blanks, anyone seen this?
[00:15] <BluesKaj> GS3User007, well there are some changes required to run ext4,  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1033163
[00:15] <BluesKaj> BBL ...errands to do
[00:16] <alexander> hi
[00:17] <GS3User007> qw[bline]: what do you mean by "system blanks:?
[00:19] <qw[bline]> Screen blanks
[00:19] <qw[bline]> cpu goes up
[00:19] <qw[bline]> and cpu temp jumps to almost 80 by morning
[00:19] <qw[bline]> this is just leaving my system along over night
[00:19] <qw[bline]> s/along/alone/
[00:20] <GS3User007> qw[bline]: i haven't noticed anything like that on my laptop
[00:20] <GS3User007> it's actually rather cool in the morning after having been idle all night
[00:20] <GS3User007> sorry
[00:21] <qw[bline]> nvidia chipset
[00:21] <qw[bline]> maybe it's some app being retarded
[00:21] <qw[bline]> firefox is probably a good guess
[00:21] <GS3User007> i've got an nvidia chipset as well, and usually leave firefox open for days at a time :P
[00:28] <noquinho> do i need use defragment and ccleaner on linux ?
[00:28] <GS3User007> noquinho: no
[00:29] <noquinho> thx
[00:29] <mardi_> hello
[00:30] <mardi_>  when i press letter with accent i get strange things like  Ã© Ãš ÃŽ Ã§ Ã  on other software it is not the case any idea ?
[00:30] <BluesKaj> !defrag
[00:33] <noquinho> thx
[00:35] <mardi_> only in qt apps any idÃ©e
[00:35] <mardi_> i use xinput-driver not evdev
[00:35] <GS3User007> mardi_: a couple of thoughts... you could have the wrong keyboard selected in system settings, or perhaps the software in question needs some sort of language pack
[00:35] <mardi_> GS3User007, it was not the case 2 hours ago
[00:36] <mardi_> i dont use the keybors layout from kde but the xorg.conf config file
[00:36] <mardi_> because of using xinput-drivers instead of evdev
[00:36] <GS3User007> mardi_: isn't xorg.conf being phased out or something?
[00:36] <GS3User007> mardi_: does the one in kde work?
[00:37] <BluesKaj> mardi_, xorg.conf is becoming difficult to edit , what kubuntu version do have ?
[00:37] <mardi_> i do not use kubuntu
[00:37] <mardi_> just kde4
[00:37] <noquinho> do you remember in windows the option system informations ? i need this in my ubuntu . Do we have something like that ?
[00:38] <GS3User007> mardi_: you should maybe join #kde for kde specific issues
[00:39] <mardi_> ok thanks .. (*buntu ) are channel where real people answer quicly that's why i came here :)
[00:40] <noquinho> me too
[00:40] <noquinho> english, but i try :)
[00:40] <BluesKaj> system settings
[01:02] <GS3User007> BluesKaj: you around?
[01:16] <ntrfug> Are there any kernel compilers in the house?
[01:30] <Serpardum> Is there some way I can tell kubuntu (or is it vbox?) to quit sticking my windows to the edge of the screen?
[01:34] <Dragnslcr> Serpardum- did you check System Settings -> Window Behavior?
[01:37] <Serpardum> I think that did it, Dragnslcr, thanks
[01:37] <Serpardum> set the snap zones to none
[01:51] <rmrfslash> Anyone else having issues w/ KDE 4.3 RC3 and the latest Linux 2.6.28-14 update?
[01:51] <rmrfslash> i.e. no more window borders
[01:51] <rmrfslash> and windows all appear in top left of screen
[01:51] <rmrfslash> and no compositing
[01:51] <rmrfslash> :(
[01:56] <rmrfslash> Well... thank god for being able to downgrade linux
[01:57] <rmrfslash> There is almost def a problem w/ kde 4.3 and linux 2.6.28-14
[02:19] <Walzmyn> Is there a way to turn off the alt+leftClick to move a window for a specific window - say a game running in wine?
[02:20] <sos> i installed 9.0.4 on my laptop and everything went ok, it boots up ok, i login, but once its done loading kde, there's no GUI anywhere. just a background. no menu, no icons. anyone know what could be wrong?
[02:24] <Walzmyn> sos: can you hit alt+F2 and start anything?
[02:25] <sos> let me try
[02:26] <Walzmyn> sos: i had a problem with plasma dieing - i couldn't see anything, but KDE was still working
[02:32] <s2r> hello.
[02:33] <s2r> I configured INADYN to update a dynamic ip service. I added the command inside rc.local however rc.local does not run on start-up. If I run it like: ./rc.local start it runs the command. Any ideas?
[02:51] <mardi_soir> GSF1200S, hello again
[02:51] <mardi_soir> problem soved
[02:51] <mardi_soir> solved
[02:51] <mardi_soir> it wxas about locale generation
[02:51] <mardi_soir> not about kde
[02:52] <mardi_soir> éé é
[02:52] <zayx> hey everyone, is the "kde4.3 not shutting down" bug a known issue?
[02:53] <mardi_soir> zayx, do you use  kdm or gdm ?
[02:53] <zayx> kdm
[02:53] <mardi_soir> or something else
[02:53] <zayx> and im testing karmic
[02:54] <zayx> everything works as normal except for after clicking the "shutdown dialog" it does nothing
[02:54] <zayx> weird thing is hibernate works fine
[02:55] <zayx> im guessing no one else here is on karmic and having the same problems?
[03:00] <zayx> hmmm is there a place i can read more about these "packaging issues" mentioned in the motd?
[03:01] <kub1> What is the channel for KUbuntu developers?
[03:01] <zayx> that would be nice to know
[03:02] <Pici> kub1: #kubuntu-devel
[03:02] <kub1> Are there any KUbuntu developers in this channel now?  Ever?
[03:02] <kub1> Pici: thanks
[03:03] <Pici> zayx: What packaging issues?
[03:03] <zayx> "Do not install KDE 4.3 beta unless you are an experienced user, there still are packaging issues"
[03:03] <zayx> its in the motd
[03:04] <zayx> i think im gonna ask around the devel channel you mentioned
[03:04] <Pici> zayx: Probably a good idea
[03:07] <jmtodaro> Hi all! I'm using Kubuntu (Karmic) which has Inkscape 0.47 in the repositories as the default. My question is how can I go about obtaining Inkscape 0.46 using kpackagekit as I'm having some issues creating Plasma theme elements with 0.47
[03:08] <jmtodaro> I would rather not try to compile it if I don't have to =)
[03:09] <zayx> hi jmtodaro, just curious if you are having a problem shutting down/rebooting from the kde 4.3 menu?
[03:10] <kub1> zayx: where was that motd you just mentioned?
[03:10] <jmtodaro> zayx: Sorry I have not encountered any issues with that yet, However I haven't updated today.
[03:10] <el_> My kde4 usually shuts down right, but one time it didn't work. I think it was caused by one of my open applications.
[03:10] <zayx> top of chat window
[03:10] <zayx> hmm
[03:11] <zayx> do you guys use wicd or netwrokmanager?
[03:11] <zayx> jmtodaro: not sure how to do it with kpackagekit but in synaptic you can enable the old repos and force version
[03:12] <el_> neither ;)
[03:12] <zayx> el_: you just use something like dhclient?
[03:12] <el_> My atheros card doesn't need any network manager in order to not work correctly ;)
[03:12] <el_> I use /etc/network/interfaces
[03:12] <Walzmyn> the network manager plasmoid is saying i'm not connected to the internet, yet here I speak
[03:12] <zayx> el_: lol :P
[03:13] <jmtodaro> zayx: thanks, I might have to give that a try if I can't find a better solution
[03:14] <kub1> zayx: was that to me, you said the motd you referred to was ¨in the top of the chat window¨? - ie, this #dubuntu channel message?  I don´t see the motd message you mentioned ther now. ??
[03:15] <jmtodaro> me either...it says that rc3 will be hitting backports (disable if you don't want it)
[03:15] <zayx> kubl: yes
[03:15] <zayx> its at the end of the message
[03:16] <zayx> oh wait
[03:16] <jmtodaro> I can say from expeirence that I had very little luck with it as a backport on Jaunty, but it works great with Karmic
[03:16] <zayx> sorry i didnt realize this irc client keeps an inline history
[03:17] <BluesKaj> kub1, depending on your client it could also be in the intro when you logged on to the chat
[03:17] <Walzmyn> Of course, with my ISP, I might as well NOT be connected to the 'net
[03:17] <zayx> Topic for #kubuntu is "Official Kubuntu support | Kubuntu 9.04 Released http://www.kubuntu.org/news/9.04-release | FAQ: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/FAQ | Free 9.04 (KDE 4) CDs https://shipit.kubuntu.org | KDE 4.2.3 for 9.04 http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2.3 | Pastes: http://paste.ubuntu.com | Chat in #kubuntu-offtopic | Do not install KDE 4.3 beta unless you are an experienced user, there still are packaging issues"
[03:17] <zayx> old motd
[03:18] <zayx> jmtodaro: the only problem i have is that kde wont properly shutdown when using the "leave" menu
[03:19] <liz> hi all, I'm thinking of moving /home into a separate partition and was wondering if then I would be able to resize the /home partition in a new install of kubuntu?
[03:19] <jmtodaro> zayx: Well, that isn't so bad compared to the way my install was working =)
[03:20] <jmtodaro> zayx: when you said "enable the old repos" do you mean to enable jaunty repos, or is there another way?
[03:21] <zayx> jmtodaro: yes, just copy/paste all the karmic repos and swap "karmic" with "jaunty"
[03:21] <Walzmyn> liz: you can do it, but it's not good to resize partitions with data in them - not safe
[03:22] <liz> Walzmyn: even if it's to make it bigger?
[03:22] <zayx> jmtodaro: i also find synaptic to be far superior to any other available package manager
[03:23] <Walzmyn> liz: it's one of those things that *shouldn't* give you a problem, but i'd darn sure not do it with out haveing a good backup
[03:23]  * Walzmyn agrees with zayx
[03:23] <zayx> i personally removed all traces of packagekit due to it being nearly useless
[03:24] <jmtodaro> liz: I don't think it's ever 100% safe to resize a partition with data in it. It would be best to make backups of anything important before trying.
[03:24] <liz> Walzmyn: I see, well thanks, was just wondering
[03:24] <jmtodaro> kpackagekit is okay...I agree synaptic is alot more flexible though =)
[03:25] <Walzmyn> then again liz, I keep backups even when i'm not planning on resizeing anything :)
[03:26] <zayx> the lack of functionality present in kpackagekit drives me nuts
[03:26] <jmtodaro> liz: It is very much worth putting /home on it's own partition though...makes reinstalls a breeze =)
[03:26] <liz> my prob is my backup would be 20gb+ and I don't have an external drive... only found  out about separate /home recently
[03:26] <zayx> it wouldnt be so bad if they had a fe as capable as synaptic
[03:26] <Roey> !he
[03:26] <Roey> oh that's so cute
[03:26] <liz> sounds much better especially if wanting to install a new version of kubuntu
[03:27] <liz> jmtodaro: my thoughts exactly
[03:27] <zayx> liz: kubuntu wont overwrite your /home folder on install
[03:27] <zayx> so you can simply rm all the other system folders and reinstall
[03:28] <zayx> unless you are changing partition type
[03:29] <jmt> interesting! I didn't know that =)
[03:29] <liz> zayx: it did on my previous pc, but since it was a fresh install I created a separate /home at the very beginning
[03:29] <zayx> liz: just use the manual partitioning and set the existing partitions as / and swap
[03:30] <zayx> then it wont get reformatted
[03:31] <jmt> could be tricky to do, but it does sound safer than resizing without a backup
[03:31] <zayx> as long as you dont reformat and use the same information there should be no problem
[03:31] <liz> zayx: ok so the trick is to use manual partitioning so that it won't reformat
[03:32] <zayx> btw resizing partitions will also change their uuid
[03:32] <zayx> liz: yep (be sure the "format" checkbox is unchecked
[03:34] <liz> ah ok, well thanks very much, that was my concern
[03:34] <zayx> yw
[03:35] <liz> was thinking of upgrading to at least hardy kde4 but didn't want all data to be lost
[03:35] <zayx> hardy?
[03:35] <zayx> thats well aged there
[03:36] <zayx> cant you do a dist upgrade?
[03:36] <liz> but everything works great in hardy :)
[03:36] <liz> dist upgrade will give me jaunty
[03:37] <zayx> hmm
[03:37] <liz> I'm using kde3.5 w/hardy
[03:37] <zayx> oooh
[03:38] <zayx> i get what you are doing now
[03:38] <zayx> cant you just add the backports ppa?
[03:39] <liz> don't know what that is
[03:39] <zayx> ah hold on
[03:42] <zayx> i think [deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu hardy main] will work
[03:44] <sos> so i installed 9.0.4.
[03:44] <sos> no gui when i login, but there's a background
[03:44] <sos> when i hit alt+f2, a little search box looking thing pops up
[03:44] <sos> how can i go about getting everything else to show up?
[03:45] <liz> zayx: just shows two folders dists/ and pool/
[03:46] <Walzmyn> sos: alt+F2 "konsole" then type "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade"
[03:46] <zayx> liz: that goes in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:47] <ironfroggy_> If i swap out the motherboard, should a kubuntu system be able to reconfigure itself on boot up? or do i need to grab my install cd?
[03:47] <zayx> liz: although it looks like the hardy repos are on kde4.1 so it might not be a good idea
[03:47] <liz> lol
[03:47] <zayx> 4.1 was horrible still
[03:47] <ironfroggy_> i mean, i didnt expect it to work, but i just thought id verify that
[03:47] <liz> can I ask what the kde4 desktop is? would that be installed side by side to 3.5?
[03:47] <zayx> iron it should work fine
[03:48] <zayx> liz: it should install along side just fine
[03:48] <ironfroggy_> zayx: its sitting at the initial startup screen with the progress bar unmoving for a while now. system is still responsive tho, just doesnt seem to be getting anywhere.
[03:48] <ironfroggy_> to be honest i might reinstall anyway. good time to do it i guess.
[03:48] <ironfroggy_> tho the new hardware a long will give that machine a jolt of life
[03:49] <liz> thanks for the info, I will mess around and see what suits me best :)
[03:49] <ironfroggy_> hm.. it just dropped me into BusyBox, now
[03:49] <zayx> liz: fyi kde4.1 sucked and 4.3 is almost out so dont make a complete judgement call just yet
[03:50] <sos> ok, so
[03:50] <sos> that almost would've worked except i'm on wireless
[03:50] <zayx> iron: prob cant find your root partition
[03:50] <sos> possible to get that working so it can fetch these packages?
[03:50] <ironfroggy_> i do think it moved
[03:50] <liz> zayx: Thanks much :)
[03:50] <zayx> liz: np
[03:51] <ironfroggy_> can i edit fstab from the busybox shell?
[03:51] <Walzmyn> sos i don't think so, i had to get some libraries updated to fix it on mine
[03:51] <Walzmyn> sos can you plug it in?
[03:51] <zayx> iron: you need to be able to mount the partition with the config data on it first
[03:52]  * Walzmyn is going to bed
[03:52] <zayx> iron: it might be easier to do from a live cd
[03:52] <ironfroggy_> as long as ive got my expected cmds at hand i can do it. i can see what device the drive is at now and i can mount it myself to get at fstab
[03:52] <sos> once i plug it in and run that
[03:52] <sos> what should i do next?
[03:52] <ironfroggy_> but is there anything else ill need to edit, like kernel parameters?
[03:53] <sos> cause it'll disconnect me from here
[03:53] <sos> thanks for the help thus far
[03:53] <zayx> iron: sounds like a plan
[03:53] <zayx> iron: i wouldnt think so unless you have added something
[03:54] <webby> ok this could be a reall dumb question but i cant seem to be able to make my desktop bigger so the icons will look smaller and ill have more room
[03:54] <ironfroggy_> i did forget one thing when i was putting the new stuff in there... its only got CD drives (aside from installation, i never use discs anymore, so i never think to upgrade them)
[03:54] <zayx> iron: however you will need to edit your "menu.lst" to reflect any uuid changes
[03:54] <ironfroggy_> and i dont even know where i havea any old cd-r to stick the live cd on
[03:54] <zayx> iron: you could make a "live usb"
[03:55] <ironfroggy_> never got into the habit of keeping usb keys handy. i stick everything on the ipod if i need it in my pocket.
[03:55] <zayx> lol
[03:55] <ironfroggy_> the tubes have made every physical kind of storage sort of unused for me, ya know?
[03:55] <zayx> yea i hear ya
[03:56] <zayx> but keeping a cheap usb drive around is handy
[03:56] <ironfroggy_> here i was worried id have to upgrade the old 40GB in this machine, too, but it wasnt even using 10
[03:56] <zayx> *one that you can boot from i should say*
[03:56] <ironfroggy_> yeah i'll probably grab a bulk of them from ebay "just in case"
[03:57] <ironfroggy_> i want to experiment anyway with running virtualbox with the vdisc on a key
[03:58] <zayx> i did that for a while running a server2008 install that i had on a second drive through vbox
[03:58] <zayx> it was interesting...
[03:59] <ironfroggy_> i am really absent minded in this whole project
[03:59] <ironfroggy_> completely forgot that the upgrade was also to 64bit
[03:59] <ironfroggy_> so it really makes even less sense not to just reinstall
[03:59] <zayx> lol
[03:59] <zayx> yea pretty much
[04:00] <zayx> it wouldnt be all that enjoyable to try migrating an existing install to 64
[04:00] <ironfroggy_> i replaced 1GB, 1.6ghz, integrated video with 4GB, 2.2ghz x4, 512MB nv8400
[04:00] <ironfroggy_> i think it'll be a frightening difference
[04:01] <ironfroggy_> but only if i remember what the hell im doing
[04:01] <zayx> lol
[04:01] <zayx> the latest 190 nvidia drivers are quite nice too
[04:02] <ironfroggy_> i think i still need to upgrade those on this machine (the one im on, not the one im upgrading)
[04:03] <ironfroggy_> im just hoping blur effect will stop causing that weird redraw-delay border around windows
[04:03] <ironfroggy_> at least i think its blur causing that
[04:03] <zayx> dont use a composited desktop so i cant help you there :/
[04:04] <webby> is their a way to make the desktop bigger or zoom out so i can fit more apps onto my netbook screen,  like on windows you can change the resalution to get a bigger desktop,, any ideas how to do this
[04:04] <zayx> but if anything i think the latest nvidia drivers might help
[04:04] <ironfroggy_> im using it on dual screen. it has issues, but its fun.
[04:04] <ironfroggy_> the composited effects for desktop switching is the first time i could ever stand to use multiple desktops
[04:04] <zayx> webby: yea its under display in system settings
[04:05] <ironfroggy_> webby: you're on a netbook and you want to cram more on the screen?
[04:05] <ironfroggy_> think about that a second
[04:05] <ironfroggy_> you're probably already operating at the small LCD's native resolution
[04:05] <zayx> iron: yea i think compositing is great but for now it still interferes too much with non kde full screen apps
[04:05] <webby> ya
[04:06] <ironfroggy_> zayx: hmm.. i didnt realize that. could that possibly be why ive been having some video problems? fullscreen flash or vlc crashes
[04:06] <ironfroggy_> makes hulu use sadly limited
[04:06] <webby> i cant make it any bigger, darn  i just hate opening firefox and only having a 2 iinch window to browse
[04:06] <zayx> iron: quite likely
[04:07] <ironfroggy_> well along with upgrading the other machine, i also upgraded this one including a newer nv model (8400 up from 7200) and if i upgrade those drivers, too, i hope that helps.
[04:07] <zayx> iron: there is also this annoying thing where my autohid menubar is still in the active forground when im playing a game :P
[04:07] <zayx> iron: it should the 7200 was still using legacy drivers i think
[04:07] <ironfroggy_> i can see how thatd be annoying
[04:08] <ironfroggy_> hm so i swapped out the card, but what should i do to get it using whatever the newest/correct drivers are?
[04:09] <zayx> nvidia-uninstall to remove current drivers
[04:09] <zayx> assuming you used the package from the nvidia site
[04:10] <zayx> otherwise you should be able to do an apt-get --purge remove nvidia*
[04:10] <sos_outside_guy> ok, so
[04:10] <sos_outside_guy> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:10] <ironfroggy_> hmm im not sure what i did in the first place so i guess if there is anything to purge, i used apt
[04:10] <sos_outside_guy> ran that and i'm back to the prompt
[04:10] <zayx> iron: yea
[04:11] <sos> what should i do now?
[04:11] <sos> my issue is no gui when i login
[04:11] <sos> no menu/icons
[04:11] <zayx> sos: does /etc/init.d/kdm restart work?
[04:11] <sos> one sec
[04:11] <webby> is their a way to add a bookmark directory to the panel or desktop
[04:12] <sos> operation not permitted
[04:12] <zayx> sudo it
[04:12] <sos> k, restarting
[04:12] <zayx> ok
[04:14] <sos> is it supposed to start back up on its own?
[04:14] <zayx> if you used the restart script then yes
[04:14] <zayx> are you at tty?
[04:15] <ironfroggy_> sweet. i dont remember when or why i downloaded a live CD, but i already had one for 9.04 on hand.
[04:15] <zayx> ctrl+alt+f1 log it as root and type '/etc/init.d/kdm restart && logout'
[04:15] <sos> i'm at nothing
[04:16] <sos> blank screen
[04:16] <sos> its starting back up
[04:16] <zayx> ok
[04:17] <sos> i think it powered down, but i started it back up
[04:17] <sos> logged in
[04:17] <sos> still nothing
[04:17] <sos> just a background
[04:17] <FloodBotK1> sos: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:19] <Caliostro> Hi. Can you help me with decorating amarok2? I'm new with this player.
[04:19] <zayx> sos: i dont know what happened to the guy that was helping you but im not sure what you can do at this point
[04:19] <sos> that's fine, i understand
[04:19] <sos> thanks for trying
[04:20] <zayx> sos: sounds like the plasma desktop is failing to start but i cant be sure
[04:20] <zayx> you can still get to the krunner interface with alt+f2 right?
[04:21] <Caliostro> So, how to change amarok look? I'll appreciate for link :)
[04:21] <jmt> zayx: I just wanted to say thanks for the help earlier...it totally worked =)
[04:21] <sos> yeah i can
[04:21] <zayx> jmt: no prob
[04:22] <Caliostro> Does anybody use amaroK??
[04:22] <zayx> sos: no rightclick context menu though, roght?
[04:23] <zayx> cali: amarok uses your current kwin theme if thats what you want to know
[04:23] <Caliostro> zayx: I want to change that )))
[04:23] <jmt> Caliostro: It appears that it is not well documented yet...amarok2 theming i mean
[04:24] <zayx> cali: as far as i know amarok 2 doesnt yet support independant theming
[04:24] <sos> correct, no right click
[04:25] <zayx> cali: you can change the color scheme of all qt4 items through system settings / appearance though
[04:27] <Caliostro> Ok, and where to get detailed instruction how to change global theme and modern themes? ;)
[04:28] <zayx> kde-look.org
[04:29] <zayx> sos: im not sure how to properly restart the plasma desktop through kdeinit but try to bring up a console and check through your logs
[04:32] <Caliostro> How to install this theme?    http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/newdanna+set+(normal+and+lite+version)?content=26055
[04:34] <zayx> cali: that theme is for amarok 1.x as i have said i dont believe amarok 2.x supports theming yet
[04:35] <ironfroggy_> uugh... i forgot how slloooww it is writing to cd-rw
[04:37] <ironfroggy_> zayx: btw, the previous "remove the current nv drivers" advice. well, whats that next step? confirmed im still on 180 drivers
[04:40] <C00LARR0w> how do i find out what drivers are installed already on my box?
[04:41] <ironfroggy_> drivers for what
[04:41] <C00LARR0w> wireless card
[04:42] <webby> is it possible to put a bookmark menu  in a panel  or desktop
[04:56] <papasmurfetta> heyy
[04:57] <papasmurfetta> i just installed kubuntu and i cant enable my wifi
[04:57] <papasmurfetta> can someone help?
[05:01] <mmt> hi
[05:01] <mmt> ктонить по русски тут говорит?
[05:05] <Caliostro> I have a little problem with my sound - it's stereo. I have 5.1 speakers and want that Kubuntu can play on all speakers :)
[05:17] <Caliostro> How to 5.1 sound on Kubuntu???
[05:23] <lordres> ubuntu en español cual es el canal?
[05:25] <lordres> ubuntu es
[05:25] <lordres> ??
[05:25] <lordres> join #ubuntu-es
[05:33] <squirrel25> anyone in here ?
[05:34] <Joschi_> sure
[05:34] <squirrel25> hey
[05:34] <squirrel25> where ya from?
[05:34] <Teclys> heyy, total linux newb here, is this a good place to ask for help or should i try somewhere else?
[05:35] <genii> Teclys: If you run Kubuntu ask here first
[05:35] <Joschi_> it is
[05:35] <squirrel25> i have ubuntu 9.04
[05:36] <squirrel25> how the FUCK do you get .mpg files to play?
[05:36]  * squirrel25 is going to put rolls in the oven and will return...pm please
[05:36] <genii> squirrel25: Please watch the profanity.
[05:37]  * squirrel25 throws acorn
[05:37] <genii> !mpg
[05:38] <squirrel25> thanks
[05:39] <Teclys> sorry about that, something funky happened
[05:39] <Teclys> i have a couple of questions, one with what i'm assuming will be a simple answer and the other not quite
[05:41] <Teclys> first off, i started up kubuntu for the 7th or so time and now my active window has small white bars floating above and below it
[05:42] <Teclys> does anyone know how i might get rid of them?
[05:46] <Teclys> also, i was wondering if anyone here could help me set up my wireless adapter
[05:52] <Teclys> is there somewhere else i might be able to get help?
[06:24] <jithine> kopete in 4.3 rc3 keeps crashing after connecting
[06:24] <estres> jithine: do not use kopete
[06:25] <estres> jithine: there is another programs better than kopete
[06:29] <jithine> estres: like?
[06:29] <jithine> i am looking for kde speecific
[06:29] <estres> jithine: like amsn, esm, there is a lot better
[06:30] <estres> jithine: you are trying to uose kopete for...?
[06:31] <jithine> gmail and yahoo
[06:33] <MarshWiggle> hello, how might I make my external usb drive work on kubuntu?
[06:34] <fg56lx> Im trying to edit my kmenu with "kmenueditor" but when I move the different sub sections around and click save they dont change. Why would it do this?
[07:20] <koksy89> hey
[07:20] <koksy89> i need help
[07:20] <koksy89> how to connect to undernet server
[07:22] <koksy89> ?!?
[07:24] <genii> koksy89:  /server name-of-server-here
[07:26] <koksy89> tnx
[07:30] <koksy89> a ima li nekoj makedonac ili srbin
[07:33] <koksy89> mozda i bugarin
[07:36] <genii> I wonder if there'll ever be a Macedonian loco channel
[08:10] <catfish> list
[09:32] <bigbrova1> .
[09:34] <ciudatu> salve
[09:35] <ciudatu> kopete have voice conversation?how do i start'it ?cant find the tab...
[09:41] <ciudatu> kopete have voice conversation?how do i start'it ?cant find the tab...
[09:57] <tdn> How do I install a PDF printer so that I can print all kinds of documents to a PDF file?
[09:58] <tdn> I have installed the package cups-pdf, and this seems to provide a PDF printer. Although nothing happens, when I print to this PDF printer. Where do the PDF file go?
[10:06] <eggy_> Hello, using kubuntu the akonadi server fails to start any time I try to open a program such as kopete. This is the error log: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/131653/ . How do I solve this?
[10:06] <eggy_> Or how can I tell KDE to not use this akonadi server?
[10:20] <tdn> In Firefox, if I do File > Print, I see this: Printer: PDF; Status: /usr/lib/cups/backend/cups-pdf failed
[10:21] <ester> Hi. I'd like to mount an SSH directory in my fstab. I've followed this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHFS and everything mount fine except that I'd like to mount it as my local user instead of root. How do I do that?
[10:22] <tdn> How do I fix this?
[10:45] <bigbrova1> .
[10:45] <OliverKrueger> I have an issue with the update-notifier in kde 4.2.2:  I have blocked packages, which should stay blocked. I get notified on updates for those everyday, making the notify icon stay permanent. Im missing important updates this way.
[10:45] <OliverKrueger> Any chance to configure this behaviour?
[11:11] <Mamarok> OliverKrueger: no, not really, at least not for now regarding the update notifier
[11:11] <OliverKrueger> Mamarok: ok, thanks.
[11:12] <Mamarok> OliverKrueger: what you can do ist just do a sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade which will not touch the packages held back
[11:12] <OliverKrueger> Mamarok: The upgrade works fine (leaving the blocked packags alone). This notification is the only thing.
[11:13] <Mamarok> well, you can close it and just perform a manual update and upgrade daily, so you don't miss anything
[11:14] <OliverKrueger> I like this nifty tray icon... ;)
[11:14] <Mamarok> OliverKrueger: are you shure you shouldn't upgrade those held back packages? It might just be that you don't have a necessary dependency installed
[11:14] <Mamarok> sure*
[11:14] <OliverKrueger> Its the kernel image, thats blocked.
[11:15] <Mamarok> OliverKrueger: well, that's a newer kernel, it might not hurt as those are often necessary corrections
[11:15] <Mamarok> doing a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade would install it
[11:15] <OliverKrueger> it does hurt, cause I have some older vmware apps, which have kernel version depedend drivers, which needs to be recompiled manually each update. :(
[11:16] <Mamarok> within a release cycle, only security upgrade are patched to the kernel, so I strongly suggest you apply these
[11:16] <Mamarok> it only happened twice since the release of Jaunty, not much in 3 months
[11:17] <OliverKrueger> Well, I have a $job next to my system admin tasks. ;)
[11:18] <OliverKrueger> I think, its a calculated risk, to update only once a year (or so).
[11:28] <Mamarok> OliverKrueger: your choice :)
[11:28] <Mamarok> and we all have day jobs, too, this is a channel run by volunteers only
[12:00] <OliverKrueger> Mamarok: Sorry, it was not my intention to attack you.
[12:17] <kroete> hi, i installed kubuntu and typed ext4, but when i boot i got a message ext3. can somebody help me where i can check it ? sry im a linux n00b
[12:27] <kroete> hi kann mir jemand sagen wo ich das dateisystem nachschauen kann (ob meine root partition nun ext3 oder 4 ist)
[12:28] <OliverKrueger> kroete: cat /etc/fstab
[12:28] <tonii> kroete: english only, and if you run "mount" you'll see what filesystem all mounts are using.
[12:28] <AlexZion> type df -T in a konsole if you want just check it
[12:29] <kroete> ty
[12:29] <kroete> is there a kind of a list where i can look up some of the console commands
 key, press it once or twice and you'll get a question if you want to list all commands.
[12:32] <kroete> k got it
[12:32] <kroete> and then i can read the man-pages
[12:32] <Rasmus> whats the untu servername for the swedish ub
[12:33] <kroete> ty bb i got to restart
[12:40] <u19809> hi all, do  you also have problems with sound on 9.04 ? amarok works dragon player works, xine not, firefox not, kaffeine not ???
[12:47] <Mamarok> OliverKrueger: no problem, I didn't feel attacked  :)
[12:50] <AlexZion> u19809: the first timeI installed Kubuntu 9.04 , I had a problem audio , but it was just because some volume on the mixer was off, so have you already check it all ?
[12:51] <Guest77615> Hello
[13:14] <u19809> AlexZion yes i tried but for xine, kaffeine smplayer firefox-youtube ... no sound !
[13:15] <AlexZion> so the PCM volume is on and up to 60/70 % and it's not working ?
[13:17] <u19809> correct
[13:25] <barbapa> hello
[13:25] <barbapa> I have a dependancy error for a server install http://pastebin.ca/1512126
[13:26] <barbapa> should I modify my sources.list ?
[13:26] <barbapa> here is my souces.list http://pastebin.ca/1512133
[13:26] <bazhang> barbapa, hang on checking
[13:27] <barbapa> what can I do?
[13:28] <bazhang> barbapa, installing something on the server? or a first install of a server
[13:28] <barbapa> bazhang: it's a dedicated server
[13:29] <barbapa> ("serveur dédié" in french, I don't know if the translation is good)
[13:29] <bazhang> barbapa, what does sudo apt-get update return
[13:29] <bazhang> barbapa, yep thats a good translation :)
[13:30] <barbapa> it's ready
[13:30] <u19809> barbapa : why do you not add the needed libs to your install ?
[13:30] <barbapa> Lecture des listes de paquets... Fait
[13:30] <bazhang> barbapa, and sudo apt-get upgrade is okay?
[13:30] <barbapa> u19809: what are the libs I need?
[13:30] <barbapa> bazhang: ok too
[13:31] <barbapa> apt-get dist-upgrade, too
[13:31] <u19809> the ones that are missing libltdl7 and libclamav6
[13:31] <u19809> so apt-get install clamav clamav-daemon libtldl7 libclamav6 ?
[13:31] <barbapa> u19809: ah ok, I test :)
[13:32] <barbapa> libtldl7 does not exist
[13:32] <barbapa> libclamav6 exist
[13:32] <u19809> barbapa : do apt-cache search libtldl perhaps it has a -0 or something at the end
[13:33] <barbapa> apt-cache search libtldl does not reply somethings
[13:33] <u19809> one moment , checking too
[13:33] <barbapa> I'm on a Jaunty
[13:34] <barbapa> (I'm reading this tutorial http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect-server-ubuntu-9.04-ispconfig-3-p4 )
[13:36] <u19809> libltdl7 should exist
[13:36] <u19809> not libtldl
[13:37] <u19809> if you go to 'debian' and check the clamav package you find all dependencies and you can see what packages you need (although it should have insatalled automatically i think)
[13:38] <bazhang> packages.ubuntu.com actually u19809 barbapa
[13:38] <u19809> bazhang : you are correct ... bad habit of mine to check debian ...
[13:38] <u19809> same result tough
[13:39] <u19809> as kubuntu +-= debian
[14:00] <jiajiax2> hello
[14:32] <sebastian> huhu
[14:33] <sebastian> sind das hier alle ubuntu user????
[14:34] <bazhang> !de | sebastian008
[14:48] <joel__> bonjour a tous
[14:49] <bazhang> !fr | joel__
[15:06] <bobleny> Hey, anyone here know anything about shell scripting?
[15:07] <bobleny> How dare he not ping back
[15:07] <Pici> bobleny: What about it?
[15:09] <bobleny> Well, I have a shell script. I am opening a file with the shell script. I need to get the file path and name of the file opend.
[15:09] <bobleny> Does that make any sence?
[15:10] <Pici> bobleny: Sort of... but #bash is probably the best place to ask about shell scripting
[15:10] <bobleny> Oh.
[15:10] <bobleny> I will do so. Thanks.
[15:14] <bobleny> Hey, how do I speak in #bash?
[15:14] <bobleny> It tells me to register???
[15:15] <genii> !register | bobleny
[16:01] <nexx> aye!
[16:02] <nexx> should i go for a 64bit version of 9.04? i just dont know :(
[16:02] <BluesKaj> bee!
[16:03] <nexx> 9.04 für 32bit works just fine, does a 64bit kubuntu bring any problems with it?
[16:04] <Mamarok> nexx: not as far as I know
[16:06] <BluesKaj> nexx, most of the probs with 64 bit have been with browsers like FF and related media plugins like flash for youtube etc
[16:07] <nexx> mh, these problem arent too bad
[16:07] <nexx> okay, then i willl feed my system with the live 64bit 9.04 and see if all the hardware does work fine
[16:07] <Mamarok> nexx: and the flash problem is mostly solved now, I can watch flash stuff in both FF (3.5 and Knoqueror
[16:08] <BluesKaj> I used to be a loyal FF user but the last versions don't render images on some sites , so I've switched to konqueror and I'm experimenting with chromium
[16:09]  * Mamarok uses FF, Konqueror and Arora, but the latter still has a long way to go IMHO
[16:10] <nexx> do you have experiences with compiz?
[16:10] <nexx> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTRsLW0eet0
[16:10] <Mamarok> nexx: KDE4 doesn't use Compiz but it's own compositing
[16:10] <nexx> looks quite interesting
[16:13] <genii> Mamarok: Arora is nice but just not there yet :(
[16:20] <BluesKaj> Mamarok, compiz runs ok on kde4
[16:20] <Mamarok> BluesKaj: yes, I know, but oyu have to change the window manager it won't with Kwin
[16:21] <Mamarok> and I think the possiblities in Kwin compositing are as good as Compiz
[16:21] <Mamarok> so why use an additional compilcation :)
[16:21] <nexx> okay, convinced ;)
[16:22] <BluesKaj> Mamarok, but what about the whiz-bang effects ? ..I don't see much on kwin
[16:23] <Mamarok> BluesKaj: well, I use this computer for work, too muhc bling is just distracting :)
[16:25] <nexx> okay, gonna boot the 9.04 64bit now, brb :)
[16:30] <Fanfare> Hi @ all
[16:31]  * BluesKaj takes a look at arora
[16:48] <BluesKaj> ok , later ...taking wifey to the malls
[16:49] <ironfroggy_> i just tried booting up a new machine with the live CD and its telling me "ACPI: Aborted because junk in compressed archive"
[16:49] <ironfroggy_> what kind of problem does that point to?
[16:56] <sbirulo>  nicola è qui
[17:30] <joshuajtl> hi folks, is 9.04 a pure kde distro?
[17:32] <genii> joshuajtl: If you install from a Kubuntu cd/dvd you get KDE as desktop. If you install from stock Ubuntu cd/dvd you get Gnome desktop. If you install from Xubuntu cd/dvd you get XFCE desktop. Etc.
[17:33] <joshuajtl> genii: right I know... what Im asking is if the 9.04 Kubuntu install installs any gnome libs, or/and kde3 libs
[17:33] <genii> joshuajtl: Only if you have an app which uses the gtk stuff. Like firefox, etc
[17:34] <joshuajtl> genii: but on default install does it install any gnomelibs?
[17:34] <genii> joshuajtl: Not that I know of. But you might want to ask a dev in someplace like #kubuntu-devel
[17:35] <joshuajtl> ok thanks
[17:42] <Vermux> who can help me with batch scripting?
[17:49] <conlin> hello
[18:03] <ajay_> data
[18:04] <krio> hi people
[18:04] <krio> the questio is there is a place where the old repositery work
[18:05] <genii> krio: old-releases.ubuntu.com
[18:05] <krio> thanks
[18:05] <genii> krio: welcome
[18:08] <mae_> tq
[18:16] <shadeslayer> hey is it possible to use ctrl+enter in arora to complete the www.......com ??
[18:26] <henry_BR> Hello, I use Kubuntu 9.04 and my firefox is 3.012 yet... Will it upgrade in someday automatically? If not, how can I upgrade? I see I have a firefox 3.5 with name: shiretoko web browser... Thanks
[18:26] <jado> hi! in which language are the kdegames developped?
[18:26] <shadeslayer> henry_BR: you will need to install firefox-3.5
[18:26] <shadeslayer> !info firefox-3.5 | henry_BR
[18:27] <Pici> !shiretoko | henry_BR
[18:27] <cygnus_> hey guys im having probs with sound, I have an HP dv7 laptop and I have an intel ICH9 series HD audio
[18:27] <shadeslayer> !sound > cygnus_
[18:27] <cygnus_> ok
[18:28] <henry_BR> ubottu: okay :) thanks
[18:29] <TheDarkFreak> !info firefox-3.5 | TheDarkFreak
[18:33] <cygnus_> sound is enabled
[18:33] <cygnus_> still doesn't work
[18:34] <cygnus_> and I tried some of thje stuff on this site https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/274424
[18:34] <cygnus_> can anyone please help?????
[18:36] <cygnus_> is there a way to fix my sound problem?
[18:36] <shadeslayer>  cygnus_ have you checked if you have set all channels to max?
[18:36] <cygnus_> umm well
[18:36] <cygnus_> no
[18:36] <cygnus_> how do i do that
[18:36] <cygnus_> ?
[18:37] <cygnus_> do you just mean setting everything in sound to max?
[18:37] <shadeslayer> cygnus_: then please do,right click the sound icon > show mixer window > settings > configure channels > select everything > set everything to max
[18:38] <cygnus_> ok I selected everything
[18:39] <shadeslayer> cygnus_: now set everything to high
[18:39] <cygnus_> but still doesn't work it just echoes
[18:39] <cygnus_> the same sound
[18:39] <cygnus_> over and over
[18:40] <cygnus_> everything is set to high
[18:40] <shadeslayer> cygnus_: so the sound just hung? hmmm...never heard of this..
[18:40] <cygnus_> ya it just echoes
[18:40] <cygnus_> take a look at this site
[18:40] <cygnus_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/274424
[18:40] <cygnus_> it tells me how to fix it
[18:41] <cygnus_> but the directory /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.config
[18:41] <cygnus_> and
[18:41] <cygnus_> /etc/modprobe.d/modprobe.config
[18:41] <cygnus_> aren't directories
[18:41] <shadeslayer> cygnus_: yes,they are files :)
[18:41] <cygnus_> at least I get that error when trying to fix it
[18:42] <cygnus_> well it saysthey are not
[18:42] <cygnus_> when i type it in konsole
[18:42] <shadeslayer> cygnus_: prepend sudoedit to those
[18:42] <cygnus_> how do I do that?
[18:43] <krio> genii: thanks guy seems it 's work
[18:43] <shadeslayer> cygnus_: type sudoedit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.config in a konsole
[18:44] <cygnus_> ok, so now in here do I type in the options it says on the site?
[18:44] <shadeslayer> cygnus_: then same thing with the other file,then find the lines and edit them to your needs,ctrl+X will quit the editor,answer 'y' after pressing ctrl+X
[18:46] <cygnus_> well what I need to do is add options to this file
[18:46] <cygnus_> and it doesn't appear in directory
[18:46] <shadeslayer> cygnus_: yep.. the path to the directory would be /etc/modprobe.d/
[18:47] <TheDarkFreak> the file inside it
[18:47] <anoneemouse> i dont have that file...
[18:47] <TheDarkFreak> is alsa-bas.config
[18:47] <TheDarkFreak> or maybe
[18:47] <TheDarkFreak> alsa-base.conf
[18:47] <cygnus_> oh ok
[18:47] <shadeslayer> i have the file...
[18:47] <cygnus_> so then I just type that in here?
[18:47] <TheDarkFreak> which file?
[18:47] <anoneemouse> there it is
[18:47] <shadeslayer> cygnus_: no,i gave you a command earlier,the sudoedit one
[18:47] <cygnus_> yes
[18:47] <cygnus_> im in it
[18:47] <TheDarkFreak> if you're already in the modprobe folder
[18:48] <TheDarkFreak> run sudoedit alsa-base.conf
[18:49] <cygnus_> I already did that
[18:49] <TheDarkFreak> is the file empty?
[18:49] <TheDarkFreak> or is there stuff in it?
[18:49] <cygnus_> yes
[18:49] <cygnus_> its empty
[18:49] <TheDarkFreak> ok
[18:49] <TheDarkFreak> you might have opened the wrong file then
[18:49] <TheDarkFreak> close sudoeditwith ctrl+x
[18:49] <cygnus_> well it says thats the file in the site
[18:49] <ruzaimi> hi
[18:49] <cygnus_> alreadyu did
[18:49] <TheDarkFreak> sometimes the names change
[18:49] <shadeslayer> hey,is it possible to use netstat in a loop?
[18:49] <TheDarkFreak> at the command line
[18:49] <TheDarkFreak> you're still in modprobe.d, right?
[18:50] <cygnus_> nop just closed konsole
[18:50] <TheDarkFreak> lol
[18:50] <cygnus_> ill open it again
[18:50] <anoneemouse> do any of you know how to set sample rate in alsa?
[18:50] <anoneemouse> ive been struggling literally for days with it :/
[18:51] <TheDarkFreak> ok cygnus
[18:51] <TheDarkFreak> in modprobe.d
[18:51] <TheDarkFreak> type ls alsa-base.*
[18:51] <TheDarkFreak> and it'll show you the actual name of that file
[18:52] <ruzaimi> hi
[18:52] <ruzaimi> hello
[18:52] <anoneemouse> ola
[18:55] <Smurphy> Carefull folks... Channel police watches ... Just speak "englisch" !!!
[18:55] <Smurphy> *rofl*
[18:55] <anoneemouse> i see
[18:56] <anoneemouse> :)
[18:56]  * Smurphy was kicked almost twice because I answered in !english...
[18:56] <anoneemouse> i just said hello :/
[18:57] <Smurphy> anoneemouse: yes - but in spanish ... They don't like it ...
[18:57] <cygnus_> is there any other way to fix my sound?
[18:58] <Smurphy> cygnus_: what's the issue. didnt follow it ...
[18:58] <Pici> Smurphy: We have nothing against any other languages, but this channel is designated to be enlgish.  #ubuntu-es exists for those who speak spanish.
[18:58] <Smurphy> Pici: I know - but have you seen the fast reaction of your's just because we talked about it ? That says it all, doesn't it ?
[18:59] <anoneemouse> so one word means you get kicked?
[18:59] <Pici> anoneemouse: No.
[18:59] <anoneemouse> oh then its ok :)
[18:59] <Pici> !es
[18:59] <Smurphy> anoneemouse: Nope - but if you continue ... Reason I'm rather sparse in the ubuntu channels lately...
[18:59] <TheDarkFreak> hahaa
[18:59] <Pici> Smurphy: I'm just watching and wanted to put my 2 cents in.
[18:59] <TheDarkFreak> who's the smart aleck that had the bot speak in spanish?
[19:00] <Smurphy> Pici: As I said. Bog brother is watching you :)
[19:00] <anoneemouse> #kubuntu-af
[19:00] <anoneemouse> !af
[19:00] <anoneemouse> didnt think so
[19:00] <Pici> Af?
[19:00] <anoneemouse> afrikaans
[19:00] <Smurphy> .joi #kubuntu-international
[19:00] <anoneemouse> Smurphy: no thanks
[19:00] <omarthamer> hi
[19:01] <cygnus_> ok the issue is that my sound keeps echoing
[19:01] <Smurphy> *lol* Just created a channel for all Language Freaks :D
[19:01] <omarthamer> any one has idea about text.extras.menu
[19:01] <cygnus_> and
[19:01] <cygnus_> ive tried many different things to fix it
[19:01] <Smurphy> cygnus_: oh. Disable the Micro ?
[19:01] <Pici> anoneemouse: I thought we had one, but I cannot seem to find it.  You might be able to find something that fits on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat though.
[19:01] <cygnus_> how do I do that?
[19:02] <cygnus_> disable the micro?
[19:02] <Smurphy> cygnus_: Mier -> check for line in etc. and disable it. probably it's just a loop-back from your loudspeakers the micro gets..
[19:02] <anoneemouse> its ok Pici i speak english just as well... i was just curious to see whether there was a community...
[19:02] <Smurphy> Sorry: s/Mier/Mixer/g
[19:02] <Smurphy> !klingon
[19:03] <Smurphy> ahhhh...Not my world *lol*
[19:03] <anoneemouse> can anyone help me with my sound problem... just maybe
[19:03] <anoneemouse> my sample rate in alsa is all wrong and no matter what i try i can seem to get it set?
[19:03] <Smurphy> anoneemouse: what kind of problem do you have ? Just joined in.
[19:03] <Smurphy> anoneemouse: what sound chip do you have ?
[19:03] <anoneemouse> my sound is really slow and choppy
[19:04] <cygnus_> no there is no loopback there its disable in channels
[19:04] <anoneemouse> no chip... i have a usb creative emu 0404 usb sound interface
[19:04] <Smurphy> anoneemouse: and what kind if system do you have ?
[19:04] <anoneemouse> kubuntu 9.04
[19:04] <Smurphy> cygnus_: then disable the Echo function of your soundcard.
[19:04] <cygnus_> I have an intel HD audio ICH9
[19:04] <cygnus_> how do I do that?
[19:04] <Smurphy> anoneemouse: Hardware ;)
[19:04] <Smurphy> ah. USB Sound ? *shrug* That works ?
[19:05] <anoneemouse> i found a forum thread for the soundcard
[19:05] <anoneemouse> but the stuff on there doesnt help for me
[19:05] <anoneemouse> its 17 pages long :/
[19:05] <anoneemouse> and ive run out of ideas... im probably doing everything wrong or something
[19:05] <Smurphy> could you type: sudo lspci | grep -i audio
[19:05] <anoneemouse> yeah usb sound works
[19:05] <Smurphy> could you type: sudo lsusb | grep -i audio
[19:05] <Smurphy> sorry - lsusb ;)
[19:06] <Smurphy> cygnus_: My Mixer shows me the echo Function. I can disable it here.
[19:06] <cygnus_> mine doesn't
[19:06] <anoneemouse> Bus 001 Device 004: ID 041e:3f04 Creative Technology, Ltd E-Mu 0404
[19:06] <cygnus_> iis it right when you open it?
[19:06] <Smurphy> bad... What sound-cad do you have ?
[19:06] <Smurphy> anoneemouse: what drivers did you load ?
[19:07] <cygnus_> I have an intel ICH9 HD Audio sound card
[19:07] <anoneemouse> i didnt load any... kubuntu did it all at install
[19:07] <cygnus_> do I need drivers?
[19:07] <anoneemouse> i was shocked to hear sound coming out of it... i was pretty sure it wouldnt be supported
[19:07] <cygnus_> cause i couldn't find them for my card
[19:07] <Smurphy> cygnus_: that's the one I have too. No issues at all ... Did you install plain new, or upgraded ?
[19:07] <cygnus_> you mean kubuntu?
[19:08] <Smurphy> cygnus_: yes.
[19:08] <cygnus_> I just installed kubuntu from the cd download inside windows
[19:08] <cygnus_> and thats it
[19:08] <cygnus_> but its nt working
[19:08] <Smurphy> anoneemouse: Hmmm. what USB port did you put it into ? USB 1.1 or 2.0 ? also - what CPU speed/Memory does your computer have ?
[19:09] <anoneemouse> usb 2.0 it definitely wont work on usb 1.1
[19:09] <anoneemouse> and for the record it works perfectly on xp
[19:09] <Smurphy> cygnus_: insde windows ? *Shrug* Works, but Windows can screw it ;)
[19:09] <Mamarok> Smurphy: ever heard of Wubi?
[19:09] <Smurphy> anoneemouse: Something working under XP doesn't it's flawless ;)
[19:09] <cygnus_> so then what do I do?
[19:09] <Smurphy> Mamarok: yes. i know it. Makes many issues though. Had to migrate some installations away from it, cause windows decided it needed space.
[19:10] <cygnus_> im lost here, do I need new drivers then?
[19:10] <cygnus_> I looked and I cant find them for my sound card
[19:10] <Smurphy> cygnus_: Open the Mixer -> Settings -> Configure Channels, and check what's in there you could try
[19:11] <cygnus_> already tried that
[19:11] <cygnus_> I enabled all channels
[19:11] <Mamarok> cygnus_: what does the system settings -> multimedia show you?
[19:12] <cygnus_> audio output and audio capture
[19:12]  * Smurphy ha no systen settings -> Multimedia on his system...
[19:12] <Mamarok> cygnus_: well, in the right window, does it show your soundcard?
[19:12] <cygnus_> yes it does
[19:12] <Mamarok> Smurphy: are you sure you are using a recent KDE?
[19:12] <cygnus_> it shows HDA intel
[19:12] <cygnus_> and pulse audio
[19:13] <Mamarok> cygnus_: that is most likely the problem, pulseaudio :(
[19:13] <cygnus_> what do I do with it?
[19:13] <cygnus_> disable it?
[19:13] <Smurphy> Mamarok: on my Work laptop, ond 4.2.something... On my Mac mini @ Home, bleeding edge
[19:13] <Smurphy> ah- found it...
[19:13] <Mamarok> cygnus_: there is a tab saying backend, what backend do you have there, xine or gstreamer?
[19:13] <cygnus_> xine
[19:13]  * Smurphy ha xine too ..
[19:14] <Mamarok> cygnus_: ok, we found the culprit, pulseaudio doesn't work well with the xine-backend, also you shouldn't even have pulseaudio installed
[19:14] <Smurphy> anoneemouse: sorry. But I don't find anything about your USB sound thingy. not even on Google ... that helps.
[19:14] <Mamarok> removing pulseaudio sould bring back the sound
[19:14] <cygnus_> well I didn't install it it was just there lol
[19:14] <cygnus_> so what do I do?
[19:14] <anoneemouse> i did Smurphy
[19:14] <anoneemouse> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=441946&page=12
[19:14] <Mamarok> you need to uninstall it, but I have never done that in Wubi
[19:14] <anoneemouse> but it doesnt help me
[19:14] <anoneemouse> :/
[19:14] <FloodBotK1> anoneemouse: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:14] <Mamarok> !wubi
[19:14] <anoneemouse> i think i may be doing it wrong
[19:15] <Mamarok> cygnus_: you should check that link above
[19:15] <cygnus_> so mamarok, do you know what i can do to fix it?
[19:15] <Smurphy> anoneemouse: did it help ?
[19:15] <cygnus_> what link
[19:15] <anoneemouse> it had a guy with the same problem i have
[19:15] <Mamarok> cygnus_: http://wubi-installer.org/support.php
[19:16] <anoneemouse> and he managed to fix it
[19:16] <anoneemouse> but i tried the same thing it didnt work
[19:16] <anoneemouse> the guy at the bottom of that page
[19:16] <anoneemouse> he says noise gone sound fixed...
[19:16] <cygnus_> I already have wubi?
[19:16] <cygnus_> what will this do?
[19:16] <Smurphy> anoneemouse: Hm. cool :) I had these issues with the M10000 EPIA Board. was a pain to fix it. had to recompile my own kernel ...
[19:17] <Mamarok> cygnus_: didn't you say you installed Kubuntu inside Windows? that is wubi
[19:17] <anoneemouse> alsa configuration seems to be my problem...
[19:17] <cygnus_> yes
[19:17] <cygnus_> but what does it have to do with sound?
[19:17] <anoneemouse> and #alsa is dead
[19:18] <anoneemouse> the problem is that my .asoundrc file seems to have no effect...
[19:18] <faydriss> alsa dead? long live alsa!
[19:18] <Mamarok> cygnus_: wubi is installed in a sandbox, and if you have trouble with it, you should check in that link above.
[19:18] <Smurphy> anoneemouse: yep. what was it too on the Epia board ... had to fix that, but also to recompile some newer kernels, as the support was bad at that time :)
[19:18] <cygnus_> im not having probs with wubi, just with sound
[19:19] <Mamarok> anoneemouse: I didn't follow everything, could you just restat your exact problem in oneline?
[19:19] <cygnus_> I dont get what it has to do with wubi????
[19:19] <Mamarok> cygnus_: but as you are using wubi I can't help you, you need to check with the link I gave you above
[19:19] <TheDarkFreak> my apologies, but would using wubi really interfere with it?
[19:20] <TheDarkFreak> I thought Wubi was just what installed Kubuntu in a windows filesystem as a file
[19:20] <anoneemouse> my sample rate on my soundcard is set to 44khz and my music and videos are all 44khz, but alsa is stuck on 48khz and i cant seem to get it changed... my sound is really slow and choppy
[19:20] <TheDarkFreak> after that
[19:20] <TheDarkFreak> kubuntu is kubutnu
[19:20] <Mamarok> TheDarkFreak: the problem is how do you remove a package in wubi? I have no idea
[19:20] <anoneemouse> im also using wubi
[19:20] <anoneemouse> Mamarok: just like normal kubuntu?
[19:20] <TheDarkFreak> Mamarok: you have a full installation of Kubuntu with Wubi
[19:20] <TheDarkFreak> it's just like normal kubutnu
[19:20] <TheDarkFreak> the only difference is
[19:20] <TheDarkFreak> kubuntu's "filesystem"
[19:20] <FloodBotK1> TheDarkFreak: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:20] <Mamarok> cygnus_: the problem you have is puleaudio, and you need to remove that, but as I never used wubi I have no idea how it works
[19:20] <TheDarkFreak> is stored as a file under windows
[19:21] <TheDarkFreak> oh
[19:21] <TheDarkFreak> well
[19:21] <TheDarkFreak> your regular solution should do
[19:21] <cygnus_> ok so once i remove pulse audio then thats it
[19:21] <TheDarkFreak> do you use a package manager to remove it?
[19:21]  * Smurphy has to eat something. Cya later folks ... Maybe ...
[19:21] <Mamarok> cygnus_: you will need to restart KDE after that
[19:21] <TheDarkFreak> because to Kubuntu
[19:21] <cygnus_> how do I remove it?
[19:21] <TheDarkFreak> there is no difference between a wubi install or a direct hardware install
[19:22] <anoneemouse> except that you use the windows bootloader and your harddrive doesnt need to be partitioned
[19:22] <TheDarkFreak> exactly
[19:22] <Mamarok> anoneemouse: what does the system setting -> multimedia tell you about the sound engine and the backend?
[19:22] <TheDarkFreak> but that has nothing to do with Kubuntu packages
[19:22] <TheDarkFreak> well
[19:22] <TheDarkFreak> I gotta go
[19:22] <TheDarkFreak> bbl
[19:23] <anoneemouse> E-MU Systems, Inc. E-MU 0404 | USB (USB Audio)
[19:23] <anoneemouse> thats the preffered device
[19:23] <anoneemouse> backend is xine
[19:23] <Mamarok> and you don't use pulseaudio?
[19:23] <anoneemouse> there seems to be a pulseaudio driver in the list... but i dont use it
[19:24] <Mamarok> anoneemouse: because pulseaudio and the phonon-xine-backend don't work well together, you should remove pulseaudio, this has solved the sound problems of most of the people
[19:24] <cygnus_> ok
[19:24] <cygnus_> pulse audio
[19:24] <cygnus_> is in synaptic
[19:24] <anoneemouse> hmmm
[19:24] <Mamarok> sudo apt-get purge pulseaudio should work in a konsole
[19:25] <cygnus_> but when I go to uninstall it removes a whole bunch of other crap which I want
[19:25] <anoneemouse> okay how do i remo... thanks :)
[19:25] <Mamarok> then remove the ~.kde/sahre/config/phonondevicesrc and restart KDE
[19:26] <anoneemouse> Package pulseaudio is not installed, so not removed
[19:26] <cygnus_> it says directory is locked
[19:26] <cygnus_> when i type in the purge pulseaudio command
[19:26] <Mamarok> cygnus_: could you paste the output of 'sudo apt-get purge pulseaudio' in http://paste.ubuntu.com and give the url here? Just don't execute the command once it suggest the packages it wants to remove
[19:26] <Mamarok> cygnus_: you need to close synaptic first
[19:27] <Mamarok> anoneemouse: try removing the configuration files of phonon anyway and restart KDE
[19:27] <cygnus_> it says
[19:27] <cygnus_> pulseaudio
[19:27] <cygnus_> not installed
[19:27] <anoneemouse> ok
[19:27] <cygnus_> so it couldnt be removed
[19:28] <cygnus_> what the hell? but it says i have pulse audio
[19:29] <Mamarok> cygnus_: that is because there is a library still installed. It will not interfer with your sond anymore, but it will show in phonon
[19:29] <cygnus_> well do i need to restart
[19:29] <cygnus_> cause my sound ids still messe up
[19:29] <cygnus_> or do I need to do something else?
[19:30] <Mamarok> cygnus_: what do you mean by 'messed uo'?
[19:30] <Mamarok> up*, sry
[19:30] <cygnus_> it echoes
[19:30] <cygnus_> and it doesn't stop
[19:31] <cygnus_> and I cant hear anything else
[19:31] <Mamarok> strange, I have never heard that before
[19:31] <cygnus_> I know it really weird
[19:31] <cygnus_> but what do i do now?
[19:32] <cygnus_> you were saying something a bout phonon?
[19:32] <Mamarok> but as a coincidence, you both have a wubi installation with sound problems, did you check the bugs database on launchpad? http://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug
[19:32] <cygnus_> no
[19:33] <Mamarok> cygnus_: phonon is the sound framework for KDE4, it distributes the sound
[19:33] <cygnus_> oh ok
[19:33] <cygnus_> so how do I fix it?
[19:33] <Mamarok> because this is the first time I hear about such sound problems, and both are related with a wubi installation
[19:33] <Mamarok> cygnus_: you should check that bugs database in the link above
[19:33] <cygnus_> yes I have to register
[19:33] <cygnus_> I cant see anything
[19:34] <Mamarok> and consider freeing a partition on your computer and install a regular Kubuntu
[19:34] <Mamarok> it will run much better than in a Wubi sandbox, without being slowed down by windows
[19:37] <ironfroggy_> does anyone know if there is something of a shelf life to CD-Rs? not written, but blank ones. I am trying to make a live CD on one of some of blanks i found, but they keep not reading properly
[19:37] <cygnus_> I looked
[19:37] <cygnus_> in the pad
[19:37] <cygnus_> but
[19:38] <cygnus_> there is nothing
[19:38] <FloodBotK1> cygnus_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:38] <cygnus_> about sound
[19:39] <cygnus_> so whtaq do I do now?
[19:39] <Mamarok> ironfroggy_: it can be a quality problem, cheap CD-Rs have more problems than more pricier ones
[19:39] <Mamarok> cygnus_: do you have space left on your computer?
[19:39] <cygnus_> not much
[19:39] <cygnus_> whhy?
[19:39] <Mamarok> how much?
[19:40] <cygnus_> why?
[19:40] <cygnus_> 2GB
[19:40] <cygnus_> I think
[19:40] <cygnus_> but
[19:40] <FloodBotK1> cygnus_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:40] <Mamarok> yep, that's too little
[19:40] <cygnus_> I have an external drive
[19:40] <cygnus_> thyats
[19:40] <Mamarok> cygnus_: please do write in one line
[19:40] <cygnus_> 1TB
[19:40] <Mamarok> cygnus_: how big is your internal HD?
[19:41] <cygnus_> 1TB
[19:41] <anoneemouse> how do i restart kde... do i just log out?
[19:41] <Mamarok> cygnus_: please read what the bot tells you: you need to type your answers in one line, don't hit enter after just one or two words
[19:41] <Mamarok> yes, that's how you restart it
[19:41] <cygnus_> im doing that now
[19:42] <Mamarok> cygnus_: wait
[19:42] <Mamarok> cygnus_: ?
[19:42] <cygnus_> My Drive is 1TB, my external
[19:42] <Mamarok> cygnus_: how big is your internal one?
[19:42] <cygnus_> 320GB
[19:43] <cygnus_> but it only has 2GB leftm of space
[19:43] <Mamarok> cygnus_: then you should push data to your external hard disk, this will free space so you could do a regular Kubuntu installation besides your windows
[19:44] <Mamarok> I am sure you don't need to have all your data on the internal disk, the external disk is fast enough for data storage
[19:44] <cygnus_> well the thing is it cnt read kubuntu from my external
[19:44] <Mamarok> cygnus_: I don't understand, do you have an operationg system on that external harddisk?
[19:44] <Mamarok> operating*
[19:44] <cygnus_> no I tried installing kubuntu on it but it didnt work
[19:45] <cygnus_> which is why its on my internal drive
[19:45] <Mamarok> cygnus_: well, the external one is not bootable, that's why, but you can push the data of your internal HD to the external one
[19:45] <cygnus_> but how will thqat fix my sound?
[19:45] <Mamarok> your personal data I mean, so it would be usable from both Windows and Kubuntu
[19:45] <ironfroggy_> I was finally able to confirm that my Live CD is written properly, but when I try to select any option, be it to run the desktop of the cd or just install kubuntu, I get just a blinking prompt, no errors, and it just sits there.
[19:46] <Mamarok> cygnus_: this will free space so you can install Kubuntu on your internal HD
[19:46] <cygnus_> it is installed on my internal drive
[19:46] <Mamarok> cygnus_: not as a standalone operating system, it is a Wubi installation, and this slows down everything
[19:47] <cygnus_> how do i insta;ll as a stand alone?
[19:47] <cygnus_> don't you need wubi to install kubuntu?
[19:48] <Mamarok> cygnus_: move all the data you want to access from both Windows and Kubuntu to the external hard disk, then you boot up your computer with an installation CD and select the installation option before it starts Kubuntu
[19:48] <Mamarok> cygnus_: no
[19:48] <Mamarok> but make sure you move everything to the external disk
[19:48] <cygnus_> ummm ok, thanx for your help but I dont wanna reinstall again
[19:49] <cygnus_> Ive done it 3 times already
[19:49] <Mamarok> cygnus_: as you like :)
[19:49] <cygnus_> and i dont get why the sound wouldn't work in wubi
[19:49] <Mamarok> cygnus_: because it runs inside Windows
[19:49] <Mamarok> so all your system is slowed down, and this can well cause some problems
[19:50] <cygnus_> ok
[19:50] <cygnus_> thanks for your help
[19:50] <Mamarok> cygnus_: you are welcome :)
[19:51] <the-turk> hi - im not able to install ubuntu server 9.04 on a dell optiplex 755 - no ps/2 port only usb - i can start the installation (grub) - but when the installer starts im not able to select the language - i already tried to hold the shift button but that does not help - any suggestions?
[19:52] <Mamarok> the-turk: hi. Do you try installing it from a self made CD?
[19:52] <the-turk> no i downloaded the ubuntu server 64 bit edition
[19:54] <the-turk> or yes if you mean that i burned it
[19:54] <Mamarok> the-turk: that's what I was asking, you burned the ISO yourself, right? Make sure you use a high quality media, there are sometimes problems with cheap CD-Rs
[19:54] <the-turk> ok i will try again
[19:55] <Mamarok> I had this problem myself several times, now I avoid cheap CD-Rs
[19:56] <the-turk> i hope thats it
[19:56] <genii> You might be missing usbkbd type of driver loaded from initial ramdisk on server version cli
[19:56] <the-turk> genii: i think you are right
[19:56] <anoneemouse> okay i restarted and my sound is still messed up :/
[19:57] <the-turk> any workaround suggestion than creating the iso by myself
[19:57] <TheDarkFreak> by the way
[19:57] <TheDarkFreak> is there any way to set a default refresh rate in kubuntu?
[19:58] <TheDarkFreak> when I boot kubuntu, it always sets itself to about 59 Hz, but the monitor looks best at 75 Hz
[19:58] <TheDarkFreak> it's a simple matter to change it
[19:58] <TheDarkFreak> but must I change it every time I boot?
[19:58] <TheDarkFreak> or is there somewhere I can set 75 as the default>
[19:58] <genii> the-turk: Without a ps2 kb it gets to be chicken-egg situation
[20:01] <the-turk> genii: does the kubuntu installer load usbkbd?
[20:01] <ironfroggy_> i think im having the same problem the-turkis then. i just went through about 30 old CD-Rs
[20:01] <ironfroggy_> they're all around ten years old tho...
[20:02] <ironfroggy_> im about to break down and stick the dvd drive from this machine into the new one i built so i can just use my "live dvd"
[20:03] <genii> the-turk: my usb kbd works fine in the kubuntu live install cd, so I'd have to say yes
[20:03] <the-turk> genii: ok thank you
[20:04] <the-turk> Mamarok: thank you
[20:08] <jarodco> hi everybody
[20:08] <the-turk> which version should I prefer for a intel core 2 duo? 32 or 64 bit?
[20:08] <jarodco> 64
[20:08] <jarodco> bit
[20:08] <the-turk> thx
[20:08] <jarodco> nopro 64 bit is better
[20:09] <jarodco> and lot faster
[20:12] <jarodco> Who want to go on my sites
[20:12] <jarodco> ?
[20:13] <jarodco> ?
[20:13] <jarodco> ?
[20:13] <FloodBotK1> jarodco: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:14] <jarodco> now what i put thw code in FloodBotK1
[20:15] <saikat_> hello
[20:16] <jarodco> hello
[20:16] <saikat_> how to make kde 4 graphics effects more fast
[20:16] <saikat_> they are very slow in my laptop
[20:17] <jarodco> update it???
[20:17] <llutz> disable them
[20:17] <jarodco> thats a guess
[20:17] <jarodco> don'r disable
[20:17] <saikat_> i have 2gb ram, hp dv6000
[20:17] <anoneemouse> saikat_: what graphics card do you have?
[20:17] <saikat_> its only 10 months old
[20:18] <llutz> intel i guess
[20:18] <saikat_> yes
[20:18] <jarodco> you will not see the computer good
[20:18] <jarodco> do you have 9.04
[20:18] <saikat_> yes
[20:19] <saikat_> kde 4
[20:19] <jarodco> you can't get kde 4 anymore on 9.04
[20:19] <saikat_> i did sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[20:19] <jarodco> i found this on google: When I disable desktop effects, it loads instantly, just like Gnome. It still, however, takes 3-4 seconds to load the system tray apps, and FF still loads slightly slower (instead of appearing instantly, half the browser renders first, then the whole thing appears). Meh..
[20:20] <jarodco> so try that
[20:20] <saikat_> gut gnome handles the effects brilliantly
[20:20] <jarodco> does it work now
[20:21] <saikat_> yes
[20:21] <saikat_> its faster
[20:21] <jarodco> no problem
[20:21] <saikat_> but is there no way to make the desktop effects work as well as in gnome
[20:22] <jarodco> if you need any more help email me at
[20:22] <jarodco> jarod@jarodco.me.uk
[20:22] <jarodco> don't think so you can try google it
[20:22] <saikat_> thank you very much
[20:22] <saikat_> i mean for yoour help
[20:23] <anoneemouse> my sound is still messed... can someone help me. i need to fix my sample rate on alsa
[20:23] <anoneemouse> i tried asoundrc to no avail
[20:23] <jarodco> don't think so i try to google it
[20:23] <jarodco> is it on mute
[20:23] <jarodco> is it plug in green
[20:24] <anoneemouse> my sound is working... there is just alot of noise
[20:24] <anoneemouse> and its slow... everyone has very deep voices
[20:24] <jarodco> turn it up
[20:25] <anoneemouse> how will that help?
[20:25] <jarodco> and turn it up by your computer
[20:25] <jarodco> if anybody need my help email me
[20:27] <jarodco> if you want to Join JarodCo Server go on Mozilla
[20:38] <slow-motion> hi
[21:27] <Lucas___> holass
[21:27] <Lucas___> a todos
[21:27] <Lucas___> que onda ¿??
[21:40] <Wreckage> hey, can someone help me out with a text color/display problem?
[21:45] <fefe> hola
[21:55] <Fanfare_> fefe: hi
[21:57] <Walzmyn> the network manager plasmoid says i'm not connected to my wireless router, when clearly I am - anybody else getting this?
[21:57] <fefe> hi
[21:57] <fefe> alguien me puede ayudar a encontrar una persona
[21:57] <fefe> soy de mex
[21:59] <Fanfare_> Walzmyn: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-widget-network-manager/+bug/404309
[22:00] <fefe> alguien me puede ayudar a encontrar una persona
[22:00] <fefe> [15:57] <fefe> soy de mex
[22:00] <Walzmyn> thanks Fanfare_ I was looking for something lke that
[22:05] <Walzmyn> weird. You can "killall plasma-desktop" then run the plasma-desktop again and the plasmoid fixes itself
[22:07] <ufeso> hello all
[22:08] <gustavo> ola
[22:11] <ufeso> gustavo de donde sos
[22:29] <zorael_> Is there a KDE4 package that sorts GNOME apps into its own subdivision in the kickoff menu, like there was in KDE3?
[22:47] <zemoo> is this a german channel
[22:58] <login_> oi
[23:11] <TearsOfBlood> hi... need some help regarding connecting to another network.
[23:11] <TearsOfBlood> any body can help me, pls?
[23:23] <sebastian> sorry about the question but does anyone know the channel for eee pc?
[23:39] <ricard1> hi, how configure kde to run faster?
[23:40] <dwidmann> ricard1: which things seem slow?
[23:52] <ricard1> I have only 512 MB of memory. Some flash web-sites go very slow, in gnome they go a little more quick. In gnome there is an application called Appearance which can make all graphics more simple, I want a similar program in KDE.