| * billybigrigger just fell in love with xfce | 00:12 | |
| billybigrigger | panel less and running gnome-do | 00:13 |
|---|---|---|
| billybigrigger | :O | 00:13 |
| Spaghetti-code | hmm damn airline broke my guitar | 00:14 |
| euxneks | billybigrigger: hm... I like xfce as well | 00:17 |
| Spaghetti-code | xfce | 00:17 |
| Spaghetti-code | i like x-window | 00:18 |
| Spaghetti-code | i like xerOS | 00:18 |
| euxneks | hrm.. isn't firefox 3.5 supposed to be the default browser for karmic? | 00:19 |
| billybigrigger | it will be, eventually | 00:19 |
| billybigrigger | not yet though | 00:19 |
| euxneks | ah | 00:19 |
| BUGabundo | just a quick hop before bed | 00:37 |
| BUGabundo | is everything ok? | 00:37 |
| billybigrigger | BUGabundo, going to bed early tonight | 00:50 |
| BUGabundo | yep | 00:51 |
| BUGabundo | or trying to | 00:51 |
| BUGabundo | but you guys don't let me | 00:51 |
| BUGabundo | :p | 00:51 |
| BUGabundo | really really nice movie | 00:51 |
| BUGabundo | xman wolverine in drive in cinema, 1st row | 00:51 |
| billybigrigger | on your laptop haha | 00:58 |
| billybigrigger | watch the bloody movie, it's a good one | 00:59 |
| BUGabundo | no | 00:59 |
| BUGabundo | I was offline | 00:59 |
| BUGabundo | 'cause I was at the cinema | 00:59 |
| BUGabundo | now I'm back | 01:00 |
| billybigrigger | ohhh | 01:00 |
| billybigrigger | :P | 01:00 |
| BUGabundo | bye guys | 01:13 |
| DanaG | hmm, is Empathy supposed to lack voice options for contacts using iChat? | 01:48 |
| DanaG | (Over AIM protocol, specifically.) | 01:48 |
| alteregoa | i use SSB on 40m | 01:55 |
| andresmh | What is the best way to report bugs/regressions about Karmic? I just applied an update and the Suspend option disappeared from the Shut Down menu. | 01:55 |
| alteregoa | i think write a mail to tanenbaum, and he will speak to canonical | 01:56 |
| DanaG | !report | 01:56 |
| ubottu | Sorry, I don't know anything about report | 01:56 |
| DanaG | !bug | 01:56 |
| ubottu | If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » If that fails, you can report bugs manually at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug - Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots | 01:56 |
| andresmh | One issue is that I often don't know what package a bug belongs to. | 01:57 |
| andresmh | For example, what would be the package related to lack of Suspend option in the Shut Down menu, DanaG ? | 01:57 |
| DanaG | hmm, for me, I had to reinstall devicekit-power and some policykit stuff. | 01:58 |
| DanaG | sudo aptitude reinstall ~ndevicekit* ~npolicykit* | 01:59 |
| DanaG | the ~n is odd... but what it does is to match by name. | 01:59 |
| DanaG | ~n for name. Yeah, aptitude is odd like that. | 01:59 |
| andresmh | DanaG, was that message re devicekit for me? | 02:00 |
| DanaG | yeah. | 02:00 |
| dr3mro | hey guys did karmic fix video tearing in video with intel graphic cards i have slow internet and i cant test but i wonder if it fixed that | 02:04 |
| dr3mro | hey guys did karmic fix video tearing in video with intel graphic cards i have slow internet and i cant test but i wonder if it fixed that | 02:05 |
| boss_mc | !repeat | dr3mro | 02:06 |
| ubottu | dr3mro: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org while you wait. | 02:06 |
| virtuald | /var/log/tiger/check_ftpusers.out.1:--FAIL-- [netw018f] Administrative user kernoops allowed access in /etc/ftpusers | 02:07 |
| andresmh | DanaG: I got a bunch of messages like this "devicekit is not currently installed, so it will not be reinstalled." | 02:07 |
| andresmh | but I went ahead anyway | 02:07 |
| DanaG | Yeah, that's correct behavior. | 02:07 |
| andresmh | I'm still not seeing the Suspend option though, do I need to restart Xorg? | 02:07 |
| DanaG | The intent is to reinstall only those that are actually installed. =þ It's just easiest to match all by name. | 02:08 |
| === Pricey is now known as PriceChild | ||
| DanaG | Perhaps restart policykit daemon. | 02:08 |
| andresmh | how to do that DanaG ? | 02:09 |
| DanaG | Hmm, I seem to remember having trouble with that -- I had to manually kill the daemon. | 02:09 |
| DanaG | sudo killall polkitd-1 | 02:09 |
| === PriceChild is now known as Pricey | ||
| DanaG | sudo invoke-rc.d policykit start | 02:09 |
| andresmh | cool, i executed both and no errors but Suspend is still not showing up | 02:10 |
| DanaG | And then go to system->admin->authorizations | 02:10 |
| bcurtiswx | devicekit supposed to be removed in favor of devicekit-power? | 02:10 |
| DanaG | Hopefully you should see org.devicekit.power.(whatever) things | 02:11 |
| andresmh | I only see freedesktop > policiykit | 02:12 |
| DanaG | er, I might've messed up the path. | 02:12 |
| DanaG | Do you happen to have the "ubuntu-desktop" PPA enabled? That's what broke things for me. | 02:13 |
| andresmh | grep desktop /etc/apt/sources.list returns no results DanaG | 02:14 |
| bcurtiswx | anyone know if devicekit is suppose to be removed in favor of devicekit-power ? | 02:14 |
| DanaG | bcurtiswx: yes, that is normal. The changelog for devicekit-power reports that the plain 'devicekit' package has been eliminted. | 02:14 |
| DanaG | eliminated. | 02:14 |
| DanaG | andresmh: might be easiest just to reboot, perhaps. | 02:15 |
| bcurtiswx | ah, i didn't know changelogs did that | 02:15 |
| andresmh | ok, i'll do that | 02:15 |
| DanaG | Or rather, "somebody noted in the changelog" -- it's not a procedurally generated thing. =þ | 02:15 |
| DanaG | wait a bit | 02:15 |
| bcurtiswx | DanaG: ah ok.. thx :) | 02:15 |
| DanaG | my suspend is missing, too! | 02:15 |
| DanaG | So, it's a different issue! | 02:16 |
| DanaG | Ah, then that's a bug. | 02:16 |
| DanaG | Reboot won't do anything about that. | 02:16 |
| DanaG | In my case, at least the sleep hotkey still works. =þ | 02:16 |
| andresmh | yeah, i think my sleep keep still works. How did you know yours works without actually going to sleep? | 02:17 |
| andresmh | ah, you might be using a different machine ;) | 02:17 |
| DanaG | No, I used it earlier today. =þ | 02:17 |
| andresmh | aha! | 02:17 |
| andresmh | so should a bug be submitted? | 02:17 |
| DanaG | If there is not already one. | 02:18 |
| DanaG | Not sure where the bug would be, though. | 02:18 |
| andresmh | I searched a bit | 02:18 |
| andresmh | didn't find it | 02:18 |
| andresmh | closest was https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pm-utils/+bug/267141 | 02:18 |
| DanaG | I mean, what package? I'm not sure. | 02:18 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 267141 in pm-utils "suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2 " [Medium,Fix released] | 02:18 |
| andresmh | but it's not for karmic | 02:18 |
| andresmh | yeah, i never know what package things are unless they are obvious (i.e. firefox, gnome-do, etc) | 02:19 |
| andresmh | another annoying thing for me is that the built-in ppp0 modem doesn't work after waking up from sleep | 02:19 |
| alteregoa | softmodem? | 02:20 |
| andresmh | it's a verizon cdma mobile broadmand modem | 02:20 |
| andresmh | *broadband | 02:20 |
| andresmh | this is my issue: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7677144#post7677144 | 02:21 |
| alteregoa | its connected to usb? | 02:21 |
| alteregoa | internal? | 02:21 |
| andresmh | internal | 02:21 |
| alteregoa | type lsusb | 02:21 |
| alteregoa | thats the drawback of a monolithic kernel | 02:21 |
| andresmh | alteregoa, here you can see the output of lsusb and other things I tried: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7677144#post7677144 | 02:22 |
| bcurtiswx | confirmed.. suspend a goner | 02:22 |
| alteregoa | sierra wireless? | 02:22 |
| andresmh | yes alteregoa | 02:22 |
| andresmh | here's the bug i submitted https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/405053 | 02:23 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 405053 in ubuntu "[regression] Bult-in modem ppp0 doesn't work after waking up from sleep mode." [Undecided,New] | 02:23 |
| alteregoa | who is the maintainer of this module? | 02:23 |
| andresmh | no idea | 02:23 |
| andresmh | how to check? | 02:23 |
| andresmh | i don't even know what module that would be :-/ | 02:23 |
| DanaG | Maybe something involving the hal -> udev-extras transition? | 02:24 |
| DanaG | hmm, try 'rfkill list' | 02:25 |
| andresmh | me DanaG ? | 02:25 |
| alteregoa | the module is sierra | 02:25 |
| alteregoa | modprobe sierra | 02:25 |
| DanaG | If it's built-in, there may be a killswitch on it. | 02:25 |
| andresmh | rfkill list | 02:25 |
| andresmh | 0: tpacpi_bluetooth_sw: Bluetooth | 02:25 |
| andresmh | Soft blocked: no | 02:25 |
| andresmh | Hard blocked: no | 02:25 |
| andresmh | 1: tpacpi_wwan_sw: Wireless WAN | 02:25 |
| andresmh | Soft blocked: yes | 02:25 |
| andresmh | Hard blocked: no | 02:25 |
| andresmh | 3: phy0: Wireless LAN | 02:25 |
| DanaG | yargh | 02:25 |
| andresmh | Soft blocked: no | 02:25 |
| andresmh | Hard blocked: no | 02:25 |
| DanaG | try summarizing. | 02:25 |
| andresmh | 5: hci0: Bluetooth | 02:25 |
| andresmh | Soft blocked: no | 02:26 |
| andresmh | Hard blocked: no | 02:26 |
| andresmh | oops | 02:26 |
| andresmh | i meant to pastebin it | 02:26 |
| DanaG | anyway, check #1 -- that's part of the issue. | 02:26 |
| DanaG | try sudo rfkill unblock wwan | 02:26 |
| andresmh | alteregoa, modprobe sierra didn't return anything. I must mention that I am at a post-suspend state so the sierra modem is not working right now. | 02:27 |
| andresmh | DanaG, ok... trying that out | 02:27 |
| alteregoa | its like many kernel modules | 02:27 |
| alteregoa | just add in /etc/modules sierra | 02:27 |
| andresmh | DanaG, ah it's working now!! | 02:27 |
| andresmh | woooow | 02:27 |
| DanaG | So the bug is that it gets rfkilled on suspend/resume. | 02:27 |
| andresmh | wow, nice, thanks so much DanaG, I'll update the bug on launchpad | 02:28 |
| alteregoa | i think i can code that in the sierra.c | 02:28 |
| DanaG | It's more likely a pm-utils issue, or something.\ | 02:28 |
| DanaG | oh, and you can paste the "rfkill list" output in the report. | 02:29 |
| DanaG | The same from before, not the now-unblocked, of course. | 02:29 |
| alteregoa | reinitialize after suspend | 02:30 |
| DanaG | I could've gotten my laptop with WWAN, but I didn't feel like paying for the card or for a data plan, when everywhere I regularly go is within range of wifi, anyway. =þ | 02:31 |
| andresmh | yeah, i wasn't sure about it but I love it now | 02:31 |
| andresmh | i travel a lot so it's quite convenient | 02:31 |
| andresmh | on the train, airports, etc | 02:31 |
| andresmh | except when I'm abroad | 02:32 |
| alteregoa | spaghetti code those driver | 02:32 |
| DanaG | The one that my EliteBook would have: Qualcomm Gobi. | 02:32 |
| DanaG | I wonder what driver that uses. | 02:32 |
| alteregoa | it uses pipes | 02:32 |
| andresmh | I gotta go now. Thanks a lot guys. You made my day. | 02:32 |
| DanaG | HP calls it UN2400. | 02:32 |
| DanaG | s/UN/un/ | 02:33 |
| DanaG | ERROR: modinfo: could not find module pipes | 02:33 |
| DanaG | =þ | 02:33 |
| alteregoa | whatever | 02:33 |
| alteregoa | Elina Pasheva, Matthew Safar, Rory Filer, those guys are responsible for the spaghetti code | 02:34 |
| DanaG | wtf... openoffice's menus think they're tooltips. | 04:05 |
| === dr0ppy is now known as dr0pknutz | ||
| DanaG | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/extace/+bug/399565 | 04:37 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 399565 in extace "extace crashed with SIGSEGV in fftw_execute()" [Undecided,New] | 04:37 |
| DanaG | yarghjh. | 04:37 |
| DanaG | wow, that's even better than just 'yargh' -- and it was entirely accidental. | 04:37 |
| DanaG | what the heck? something just changed my touchpad boundaries, as I watched! | 05:10 |
| DanaG | LeftEdge = 411 | 05:11 |
| DanaG | RightEdge = 5455 | 05:11 |
| DanaG | TopEdge = 1319 | 05:11 |
| DanaG | BottomEdge = 5514 | 05:11 |
| DanaG | should be: RightEdge=5100 TopEdge=1500 LeftEdge=1650 BottomEdge=4700 | 05:11 |
| genii | xrandr ? | 05:15 |
| DanaG | Nope. | 05:15 |
| genii | Weird | 05:15 |
| DanaG | Yeah. I wish whatever it is would leave my settings the hell alone. | 05:15 |
| DanaG | It really does annoy me when things decide to go behind my back and muck around with -- and override! -- my settings. | 05:16 |
| oldude67 | whats the matter dont you want to play DanaG ??? lmao | 05:16 |
| billybigrigger | DanaG, didn't that happen to you last night? | 05:17 |
| DanaG | Yeah. | 05:17 |
| DanaG | It's still happening. | 05:17 |
| DanaG | Once I have my finger near the edge... it MOVES the edge! | 05:17 |
| genii | Does it always revert back to same numbers? | 05:18 |
| DanaG | Approximately so, I think. | 05:18 |
| DanaG | I can 'watch -n0 --differences=cumulative synclient -l' -- and then move my finger around on the touchpad, and watch it trash my settings. | 05:18 |
| * billybigrigger wishes he would have setup his raid as ext4 not ext3 :( | 05:24 | |
| * DanaG wishes he could set up a spell so that anyone who called the package manager "Synaptics" OR called the touchpad "Synaptic" would get a (gentle) slap in the face. | 05:29 | |
| billybigrigger | DanaG, kinda glad im not on a laptop :P | 05:51 |
| billybigrigger | sounds like your having a rough go :P | 05:51 |
| DanaG | Actually, I find touchpad a lot easier on the arms/hands, in terms of RSI. | 05:51 |
| DanaG | But that software misfeature... sucks. | 05:51 |
| billybigrigger | i prefer a smaller mouse | 05:51 |
| jithine | kopete keeps crashing after mornings update | 06:13 |
| jithine | anyone facing the same issue | 06:13 |
| DanaG | yargh, where is trash:// ? | 06:17 |
| DanaG | .local/share/Trash | 06:21 |
| DanaG | yes, capital Trash. | 06:21 |
| jithine | kopete starts connects and then quits | 06:22 |
| billybigrigger | radeon/kms users should be happy with .31-5 seems like a quite of few fixes | 06:23 |
| billybigrigger | alot of radeon and usb fixes for -5 | 06:23 |
| oldude67 | ok why cant i install gnome on 9.10 | 06:27 |
| oldude67 | ok am i here or not? | 06:28 |
| oldude67 | first time in irssi | 06:28 |
| oldude67 | well atleast this year.. | 06:28 |
| DanaG | dangit, it did it again! | 06:30 |
| DanaG | SCrewed up my touchpad settings! | 06:30 |
| oldude67 | ok now i know im here.lol | 06:30 |
| oldude67 | DanaG: you would figure they would have a way you could lock your settings by now. | 06:32 |
| oldude67 | so not use to using irssi ... | 06:48 |
| oldude67 | computer is like way bogged down by running vbox | 06:49 |
| oldude67 | got gnome to install in 9.10 just had to use aptitude instead of apt-get for some reason...had a dependency issue. | 06:50 |
| oldude67 | http://imagebin.org/57729 | 07:38 |
| oldude67 | i have a question for ops, where would i go to ask? | 08:01 |
| jpds | #ubuntu-ops | 08:02 |
| oldude67 | never mind i dont care... | 08:04 |
| oldude67 | sorry sad attitude.but ...hey .. | 08:04 |
| mac_v | oldude67: hehe... i guess its the "old dude" attitude ;p | 08:05 |
| oldude67 | i hear you...some people make it hard to help others... | 08:07 |
| oldude67 | make a long story short..lets make them jump hoops, for nothing | 08:07 |
| Timmy2Tall | you... | 08:08 |
| oldude67 | oh heck no , not me... i have my shite. | 08:08 |
| Timmy2Tall | u have nothing old man | 08:08 |
| Timmy2Tall | i need another baked pototo | 08:08 |
| oldude67 | nope i dont..want it?? | 08:08 |
| Timmy2Tall | depends ugonna bring it | 08:09 |
| oldude67 | hell you throwing on the steaks and eggs? | 08:09 |
| oldude67 | :D | 08:09 |
| Timmy2Tall | oh im throwing on the hashbrowns, steaks, eggs, waffles, you name it its coming for ya! | 08:09 |
| oldude67 | wait can i drive my f250 4x4 there...? | 08:10 |
| oldude67 | oh we are so off topic..lmao | 08:10 |
| Timmy2Tall | Depends you gonna lemme test drive! | 08:10 |
| oldude67 | hell yeah...we got mud? | 08:10 |
| Timmy2Tall | Oh we got mud! You got a Toe-Strap? | 08:11 |
| Timmy2Tall | tow* | 08:11 |
| oldude67 | and a couple of oh shit hooks in front just in case.:D | 08:11 |
| jussi01 | oldude67: watch the language please ;) | 08:12 |
| Timmy2Tall | Well hell grab the bud light and lets make a party out of it! | 08:12 |
| oldude67 | sorry...lol | 08:12 |
| jussi01 | and also, offtopic chat to #ubuntu-offtopic please :) | 08:12 |
| oldude67 | yeah yeah i hard that before..lmao...sorry | 08:12 |
| oldude67 | long day | 08:12 |
| Timmy2Tall | how you gonna smile in my face jussi, talk to me like a child | 08:13 |
| Timmy2Tall | Jussi you more then welcome to come on over too, i take care of my guest and treat em to a good time! | 08:13 |
| oldude67 | just got 9.10 running in vbox can i install on it like normal or should i watch what i do ...i want to know if all things will update normal on regular box | 08:14 |
| oldude67 | ? | 08:14 |
| Timmy2Tall | Just be sure to bring the a bottle of captain | 08:14 |
| Timmy2Tall | oldude knows wat im talkin about =D | 08:14 |
| Timmy2Tall | i've already got kicked from Off-topic for well...being off-topic..where's the irony in that? | 08:16 |
| oldude67 | ok all have fun...im out...got to rest i think...old body old mind...young desires;D | 08:16 |
| Timmy2Tall | I heard that | 08:16 |
| Timmy2Tall | take it easy | 08:16 |
| richardcavell | Folks, I'm on Karmic alpha 3. My update manager wants to do a partial upgrade but it fails to do so. What's the deal? | 08:40 |
| martin-- | hey guys.. i cant mount my luks partition.. it says theres no partition available with that keyphrase.. why is that? | 08:44 |
| richardcavell | Is there a distro upgrade happening from alpha 3? | 08:45 |
| maxb | That question is a bit confused | 08:46 |
| richardcavell | I'm on alpha 3. I run update manager and it says it wants to do a partial distro upgrade | 08:47 |
| maxb | That's a normal fact of life when running the development series. It requires you exercise judgement on whether the upgrade plan update-manager is proposing makes sense, or might break the system, and approve or cancel it as appropriate | 08:48 |
| richardcavell | Okay | 08:49 |
| richardcavell | When Karmic is officially released, will I be able to update to that official release from whatever state my computer is currently in? | 08:49 |
| mvo | richardcavell: does it just say that it can not calculate the upgrade? or a different error? | 08:50 |
| mvo | richardcavell: yes, it will be possible to upgrade (unless something is really odd on the system) | 08:50 |
| richardcavell | mvo: I last updated my system 5 hours ago and went to work. I came back and ran Update Manager. It says: Not all updates can be installed. Run a partial upgrade, to install as many updates as possible. | 08:51 |
| mac_v | mvo: hi... any chances of getting this Bug #391479 fixed by Karmic cycle? | 08:59 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 391479 in update-manager "Child Windows [of Synaptic/update manager] should remain in the same desktop as the parent window" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/391479 | 08:59 |
| mvo | mac_v: hm, I thought I fixed a similar bug some weeks ago in karmic, I have a look at this one, it sounds similar | 09:04 |
| mac_v | mvo: I'm using Karmic , up-to-date , the bug still exists | 09:17 |
| mvo | mac_v: thanks for confirming that, is it easy to reporduce with the instruction in the bugreport ? | 09:19 |
| mac_v | mvo: yup... just had the problem again earlier this morning | 09:19 |
| syn-ack | 127 upgraded, 6 newly installed, 3 to remove and 0 not upgraded. | 10:04 |
| Oli``` | Should I be removing devicekit or should I wait until the packages forcing it out are fixed? | 11:09 |
| Oli``` | devicekit-power is the conflict | 11:09 |
| ubuntu | Hi all, grub2 is giving me some trouble every option gives me a "you have to load the kernel first" error. I'm now on a liveCD. Can anybody guide me trough fixing this? | 11:11 |
| === ubuntu is now known as thvdburgt | ||
| thvdburgt | this is my sudo fdisk -lu output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/236485/ | 11:12 |
| richardcavell | I have devicekit-power stuck in update manager. It's gray and I can't install it. | 11:18 |
| richardcavell_ | anyone else have devicekit-power stuck in their update manager window? | 11:26 |
| tscmga | hello | 11:43 |
| tscmga | after i update to 9.10, my super_l key not work for fvwm | 11:44 |
| tscmga | after update to 9.10 , super_l not works | 11:44 |
| tscmga | fvwm | 11:44 |
| tscmga | i can not resize window using super_l key now | 11:44 |
| === Le-Chuck_ITA1 is now known as Le-Chuck_ITA | ||
| oldude67 | aw crap, now i have to fight with flash again...dangit...lol...oh well here we go again. | 12:21 |
| oldude67 | tgfg | 12:21 |
| Guest58006 | anyone having problem with there broadband air cards after upgrade | 12:50 |
| Guest58006 | where are the setting for the air cards? | 12:50 |
| Guest58006 | all these people in here and no one talking? | 12:53 |
| === fader|away is now known as fader_ | ||
| oldude67 | sorry dont use air cards...:( am hard wired...more bang for you buck..:D | 12:55 |
| holzmodem | next update remove "devicekit", it is safe to update? | 13:25 |
| Guest58006 | air card now lock up my laptop after upgrade two days ago..was working fine | 13:36 |
| gahrthlg | It seems like the boot.img I get from http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/karmic/main/installer-i386/current/images/hd-media/ is not compatible with the CD image i get from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/karmic/alpha-3/ (not the same kernel version). Does anyone know where I can get one that works? | 13:44 |
| gahrthlg | Sorry for the long urls. | 13:44 |
| Guest58006 | any insight on CDMA connections | 13:48 |
| === WelshDragon is now known as Cuddles | ||
| bazhang | !find ruby | 13:58 |
| ubottu | Found: libkorundum4-ruby1.8, libqt4-ruby1.8, libqt4-ruby1.8-dev, libruby1.8, libruby1.8-dbg (and 594 others) | 13:58 |
| jan____ | hey, which version of ruby will be bundled on karmic? does anyone know? | 13:58 |
| bazhang | !info libruby1.8 | 13:59 |
| ubottu | libruby1.8 (source: ruby1.8): Libraries necessary to run Ruby 1.8. In component main, is optional. Version 1.8.7.174-1 (karmic), package size 1467 kB, installed size 6072 kB | 13:59 |
| jan____ | wow, no 1.9? | 14:00 |
| gnomefreak | jan____: as of this moment 1.9 is not in repos, that doesnt mean it wont be. | 14:06 |
| jan____ | gnomefreak: is there any way to help making it happen? if 1.9, it should be 1.9.1 | 14:13 |
| jan____ | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ruby1.9/+bug/330268 | 14:13 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 330268 in ruby1.9 "[needs-packaging] Ruby 1.9.1" [Wishlist,New] | 14:13 |
| gnomefreak | jan____: thats about it | 14:14 |
| jan____ | okay | 14:15 |
| DPic | will the new nvidia driver be included in karmic? | 14:16 |
| DPic | http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_amd64_185.18.29.html | 14:16 |
| dajhorn | DPic: Karmic currently has 185.18.14, which is just one point release behind that. They might still pick it up. | 14:31 |
| DPic | it'd be cool if they did | 14:32 |
| DPic | know how i could follow that? | 14:32 |
| dajhorn | DPic: You could subscribe to the package on Launchpad, or you could learn how to do a 'uupdate' if there is something in .29 that you need. | 14:32 |
| DPic | i'd love to do both! haha | 14:33 |
| dajhorn | DPic: Personally, I'm too lazy. I don't see anything in the 185.18.29 release notes that I need. | 14:34 |
| DPic | i don't really need it either, but i like to have the latest packages possible | 14:36 |
| DPic | where can i find it on launchpad? | 14:36 |
| dajhorn | DPic: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/amd64/nvidia-glx-180 | 14:38 |
| DPic | thanks | 14:38 |
| dajhorn | DPic: Np. Notice the "package releases" pane in the top-right corner. Those are upstream versions. | 14:39 |
| DPic | by learn how to do an update, did you mean so that it updates in karmic for everyone, not must install it for myself? | 14:40 |
| dajhorn | DPic: Just for yourself. That means "upstream update". The package system has a helper program that let's you download the latest version of software from the upstream source and create a new deb, just for your local computer. | 14:41 |
| DPic | ah | 14:42 |
| dajhorn | DPic: Making a new deb will take a relatively long time to learn, but it is quite handy if you care about having the latest and greatest. | 14:42 |
| DPic | well i do care about that, but i'd rather learn so that i can update packages for everyone | 14:42 |
| dajhorn | DPic: Okay, then start there, and if you get a local deb working properly, then you can post some kinds of software to launchpad.net for everybody to use. That is called a "PPA". | 14:43 |
| dajhorn | DPic: We're going to annoy this channel with this kind of discussion. We can continue in #ubuntu. | 14:44 |
| pawan | hi | 14:59 |
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| russel | I am attempting to install 9.10 on a Mac pro, but the X server does not start during the install | 16:54 |
| russel | I get a Traceback: X exited with status 1 | 16:54 |
| russel | followed by a few failed init scripts | 16:55 |
| russel | and a login prompt | 16:55 |
| russel | Is there a default user account I can use to poke around and see what the error was? | 16:55 |
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| TheInfinity | russel: use alternate installer | 17:01 |
| TheInfinity | and look at xorg log | 17:02 |
| russel | OK | 17:02 |
| russel | I just figured out that user ubuntu with no password works | 17:02 |
| russel | inspecting Xorg logs now... | 17:02 |
| russel | I had switched to "safe video" mode which gives an error "/deb/fb0 not found" | 17:06 |
| richardcavell | Guys my Internet is really really slow. Like, 1 kilobyte every 30 seconds slow. On OS X (I'm dual booting) I get no slow down at all. I think something's wrong with my Karmic installation. Any ideas? | 17:11 |
| bronson | Anyone know what happened to the Guest User? | 17:12 |
| bronson | That feature rocked. | 17:12 |
| richardcavell | bronson: yeah I don't have him any more either | 17:12 |
| bronson | That rocked in Jaunty. I no longer had to come home and find out my fiancee had logged me out of gmail, facebook, etc. :) | 17:13 |
| richardcavell | lol | 17:13 |
| richardcavell | okay well if no one wants to ping me then I'll put it down to something broken on my Ubuntu installation rather than the IRC server | 17:15 |
| bronson | ping you? | 17:15 |
| richardcavell | bronson: yes. I | 17:15 |
| richardcavell | I've been having massive IRC connection problems. Lag and packet loss | 17:16 |
| richardcavell | I'm trying to diagnose it. I'm starting to think that my Ubuntu installation is diseased in some way. | 17:16 |
| bronson | oh, weird. no other network issues? | 17:16 |
| richardcavell | If I can confirm that under OS X I don't have those problems, then I know it's ubuntu | 17:16 |
| Pici | richardcavell: Have you tried looking at mtr output to the freenode server that you are connected to? | 17:16 |
| richardcavell | Pici: I don't know how to do that | 17:17 |
| Pici | !info mtr | 17:17 |
| ubottu | mtr (source: mtr): Full screen ncurses and X11 traceroute tool. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.75-2 (karmic), package size 51 kB, installed size 168 kB | 17:17 |
| richardcavell | Pici: I'm not sure how I could use that to diagnose my issues | 17:18 |
| Pici | richardcavell: See if you're getting excess latency to the freenode server you are connected to and also other servers, like google or similar. | 17:18 |
| Pici | To see if its happening to all network traffic or just stuff to freenode. | 17:18 |
| richardcavell | Pici: My ping time to foxnews.com and yahoo.com is < 200 msec | 17:19 |
| richardcavell | My ping time to freenode.net is up to a minute (on IRC) | 17:19 |
| Pici | richardcavell: which freenode server? | 17:19 |
| richardcavell | kubrick | 17:19 |
| Pici | Try another one. | 17:20 |
| richardcavell | but I have tried about 5 | 17:20 |
| richardcavell | I went through irc.freenode.net, chat.freenode.net, chat.ap.freenode.net, the US rotation, and one or two other specific ones | 17:20 |
| Pici | richardcavell: Using mtr, you could see whether it was freenode itself or one of the intermediary links that is causing the latency. | 17:21 |
| richardcavell | Pici: Mate, I'm going to bed and I'll see if it's still an issue tomorrow morning. | 17:22 |
| Pici | Okay | 17:22 |
| eagles0513875 | hey guys | 17:46 |
| bronson | Is there any way to "reset" pulseaudio? | 17:47 |
| bronson | I can't get audio to play on my main account. | 17:47 |
| bronson | But when I create a new test account, it works just great. | 17:47 |
| bronson | Is there a way to tell PA to reset all its prefs but not lose my other customizations? | 17:48 |
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| mphill | bronson: try sudo alsa force-reload | 17:49 |
| bronson | mphill, looks like I need to kill pulse first? | 17:50 |
| bronson | arg, it keeps respawning | 17:50 |
| bronson | mphill, yes!! That was it. | 17:51 |
| bronson | thanks. | 17:51 |
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| xtknight | i need some people to do me a favor here. can you run this code and see if all your drives show up, including cd drives? http://pastebin.com/m4d1f22a8 | 17:53 |
| xtknight | it's causing problems with my automount and brasero | 17:53 |
| stormy2k | Hi everyone. Does anyone else have problems with intel-drivers in karmic? | 18:35 |
| nhasian | stormy2k, what intel adaptor do you have? | 18:37 |
| stormy2k | X3100 | 18:37 |
| nhasian | what kind of problem are you experiencing? | 18:39 |
| stormy2k | Ok, it's working again... Strange | 18:39 |
| stormy2k | I couldn't activate compiz by the desktop settings | 18:39 |
| stormy2k | But with compiz --replace it works | 18:40 |
| nhasian | good good. how is the KMS treating you? | 18:40 |
| stormy2k | KMS? | 18:40 |
| nhasian | the Kernel Management with the intel graphics adaptor | 18:41 |
| nhasian | sorry its Kernel Mode Setting | 18:42 |
| stormy2k | I'll check | 18:42 |
| nhasian | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/KernelModeSetting | 18:42 |
| nhasian | i'm jealous i wont be able to use KMS for my nvidia card until probably Ubuntu 10.04 | 18:49 |
| DanaG | Even with my R600 ATI, I currently don't have KMS, either. | 18:54 |
| Zencyde | So, what's this new fangled software that's replacing HAL? Didn't we just get that implemented? | 18:54 |
| DanaG | I'm using fglrx for now. | 18:54 |
| DanaG | I look forward to the day I can run compiz + fglrx on it. | 18:54 |
| DanaG | er | 18:54 |
| DanaG | compiz + KMS | 18:54 |
| nhasian | since HAL is being depreciated with all the changes, i havent been able to burn a cd in brasero for weeks now | 18:57 |
| DanaG | And with HAL being deprecated... where will I put my touchpad-preferences FDI file? | 18:58 |
| DanaG | I know I'll have to convert it to a udev rule....... but how? | 18:58 |
| sebsebseb | yeah what's wrong with HAL anyway? | 18:58 |
| DanaG | And what'll replace hal-device-manager? | 18:59 |
| DanaG | or rather, kde-hal-device-manager? | 18:59 |
| DanaG | I see no equivalent for udev! | 18:59 |
| nhasian | dont ask me, i'm just going with the flow hehe | 19:02 |
| Pici | !hal | 19:02 |
| ubottu | Hal is in the process of being depreciated. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Halsectomy and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardware_abstraction_layer for more info. | 19:02 |
| DanaG | I'm sorry, I can't do that, Dave. | 19:02 |
| sebsebseb | Pici: oh there's even a factoid for it, why does that not suprise me? ,because there's a factoid for nearly all of these things :D | 19:02 |
| DanaG | Somebody needs to add a question about that gnome-device-manager to there. | 19:03 |
| DanaG | oh yeah, is Empathy supposed to be able to voice-chat with iChat over AIM protocol? | 19:08 |
| DanaG | debian bug 470408 | 19:16 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 470408 in xserver-xorg-video-s3 "xserver-xorg-video-s3: Screen corrupted for Virtual PC 2007, in 24bit mode" [Normal,Closed] http://bugs.debian.org/470408 | 19:16 |
| DanaG | ah, thanks for the link. =þ | 19:16 |
| DanaG | hah, ALSA project certificate expired last week. | 19:20 |
| mac_v | my laptop seems to be using ALSA ... 0.o | 19:22 |
| DanaG | https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/view.php?id=3842 | 19:25 |
| DanaG | lp# 406396 | 19:39 |
| DanaG | bug 406396 | 19:39 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 406396 in gnome-power-manager "notify-osd patch needs to be rewritten" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/406396 | 19:39 |
| DanaG | odd... my battery is full, and yet g-p-m is using the "empty" icon to show that it's full. | 19:57 |
| DanaG | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/notify-osd/+bug/367049 | 19:59 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 367049 in notify-osd "notify-osd is losing performance" [Medium,Triaged] | 20:00 |
| maccam94 | how "stable" is karmic right now? i'm thinking of playing with it on a non-critical laptop | 20:28 |
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| tanath | why doesn't the update manager see when package info has been updated in terminal? | 20:42 |
| tanath | i got a yellow triangle icon saying package info hasn't been updated in 11 days, when it's been updated many times | 20:44 |
| maccam94 | tanath: there's probably one repository that you're using that's unreachable or something | 20:46 |
| tanath | maccam94, there's one unauthenticated one, but that shouldn't cause that | 20:47 |
| tanath | maccam94, neither should | 20:47 |
| maccam94 | tanath: try disabling all of them except the default ubuntu ones, and then slowly re-add them one or two at a time | 20:48 |
| benste | HI, so experienced with using DLNA / UPNP with Rhytmbox in Karminc ? - I tried to install the coherence package which was necessary in jaunty, to activate the plugin in rhytmbox, but now - it fails even with he installed package | 20:48 |
| tanath | maccam94, that would take a bit... they all update fine. | 20:49 |
| maccam94 | tanath: have you added any recently? | 20:49 |
| tanath | maccam94, i've done more disabling of 3rd-party repos than enabling.. | 20:50 |
| maccam94 | well... i've had that error before myself, and i found that one of the repositories just wasn't being updated correctly. disabling it fixed the problem :-\ | 20:52 |
| maccam94 | hopefully they'll just fix things, but if they've abandoned it/switched to using a different name, the message won't go away | 20:52 |
| brettalton | maccam94: that happens to me in 9.04 sometimes too | 21:01 |
| maccam94 | yeah that's where it happened for me | 21:02 |
| BUGabundo | hey everyone . gonna get my self a Android G2 tonight! | 21:42 |
| yofel | hi BUGabundo | 21:42 |
| maccam94 | lucky | 21:42 |
| BUGabundo | hope so | 21:43 |
| BUGabundo | only a few hundreds on the online shop | 21:43 |
| BUGabundo | I'm off! | 21:53 |
| BUGabundo | let see if i get lucky | 21:53 |
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| DanaG | Could not open location 'file:///home/dana/amdxdg-su%20-c%20amdcccle' | 22:58 |
| poseidon | Has there been many problems with sound in ubuntu alpha? I've done a clean install for alpha 1, 2, and 3, and lost sound after an upgrade or two in all three of them | 22:58 |
| benste | why can't I activate the DLNA plugin of rhytmbox when coherence is already installed ? | 22:59 |
| DanaG | *** glibc detected *** gksudo: double free or corruption (!prev): 0x0000000000976c90 *** | 23:05 |
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| DanaG | What's the difference between a -dbg package and a -dbgsym package? | 23:19 |
| yofel | DanaG: the -dbg packages are built by the source packages themselves, the -dbgsym packages are auto-generated by the buildds | 23:29 |
| syn-ack | DanaG, one is just the compilation symbols that were stripped from the deb | 23:29 |
| DanaG | ah. | 23:30 |
| syn-ack | rather, the debugging symbols. | 23:30 |
| syn-ack | Either term is technically correct, I reckon | 23:30 |
| DanaG | Odd... there's a /usr/lib/debug/usr/bin/ with binaries, where 'file' says "ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.15, not stripped" | 23:30 |
| virtuald | what comes after karmic? | 23:30 |
| DanaG | .... and bash says "cannot execute binary file" | 23:31 |
| DanaG | odd. | 23:32 |
| Lint01 | i have a problem. all my truetype fonts look like shit when antialising is turned off | 23:39 |
| RichardWolfVI | Lint01: Screenshot? | 23:41 |
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