| rickspencer3 | TheMuso: hi | 00:01 |
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| TheMuso | rickspencer3: Hey there. | 00:01 |
| TheMuso | rickspencer3: I have nothign on my agenda that I need to talk to you about. | 00:02 |
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| TheMuso | Morning robert_ancell. | 00:15 |
| robert_ancell | TheMuso, hey | 00:15 |
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| pitti | Good morning | 07:14 |
| TheMuso | Morning pitti | 07:14 |
| pitti | kklimonda: yes, known | 07:14 |
| pitti | kklimonda: ah, thanks for testing the g-p-m hotkey bug | 07:23 |
| didrocks | morning o/ | 08:00 |
| robert_ancell | hey, what ever happened to gnome-main-menu (the slab). Is that a dead module? | 08:05 |
| seb128 | good morning there | 08:10 |
| mvo | hey seb128! | 08:11 |
| seb128 | hey mvo! | 08:11 |
| didrocks | morning seb128 and mvo! | 08:12 |
| seb128 | lut didrocks | 08:12 |
| pitti | hey seb128 | 08:12 |
| seb128 | hey pitti | 08:12 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, hey, so did you win over git? ;-) | 08:14 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, i still hate it | 08:14 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, good work on converting g-c-c to glade otherwise | 08:16 |
| robert_ancell | thanks | 08:16 |
| robert_ancell | I converted gnome-main-menu but I think it's an obsolete module so that wasn't worth it :) | 08:17 |
| mvo | hey didrocks, pitti and robert_ancell | 08:17 |
| robert_ancell | hey mvo | 08:17 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, there is a list on the gnome3 spec whiteboard | 08:19 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, those are the applications from the default install so likely good target for such changes | 08:19 |
| seb128 | btw am I the only one to often get seahorse gpg dialog in background | 08:20 |
| seb128 | or the session dialog when opening from gnome-panel on karmic | 08:20 |
| seb128 | using compiz | 08:20 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, mvo: ^ | 08:22 |
| lool | seb128: #315591 is similar to what I had at GUADEC, but I was affected by xterm being sgid while here it's nastier in that it's ssh-agent which is launched as part of the session | 08:24 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, not running compiz right now, will check later (it likes to crash for me) | 08:25 |
| seb128 | lool, thanks, the bug got details and reassigning since I asked so it's ok now | 08:25 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, ok | 08:25 |
| lool | seb128: I commented as well this morning | 08:26 |
| seb128 | lool, thanks | 08:26 |
| seb128 | I officially hate blueprint in launchpad | 08:26 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, what did you change to the GNOME3 spec? | 08:26 |
| seb128 | the stupid thing send a dump of whiteboard by email | 08:26 |
| seb128 | not really useful to figure what changed | 08:26 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, you'll never know... I mistakenly thought vinagre was fixed in the last release then I undid that change | 08:28 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 08:28 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, thanks | 08:28 |
| mvo | seb128: hm, it was supposed to be fixed long ago :/ | 08:31 |
| seb128 | mvo, I still get the issue there, could you try to design a .changes, esc try again | 08:32 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, why did you need to rebuild vinagre? | 08:33 |
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| seb128 | robert_ancell, I don't know how TheMuso did the sponsoring but it didn't match the bzr version tagged, it didn't install the .schemas | 08:34 |
| robert_ancell | ah ok | 08:34 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, ie the .install lacked one line | 08:34 |
| seb128 | does anybody know if we should track fontconfig 2.7? | 08:37 |
| seb128 | and dbus 1.3 | 08:37 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, do we have a way to specify what serie to track in the current versions code? | 08:37 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, no, only if the upstream has them in directories | 08:37 |
| seb128 | can we put regexps in the filename like watch files do? | 08:38 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, sure | 08:38 |
| seb128 | ok, I might have a look to changing the fontconfig and dbus series then | 08:38 |
| robert_ancell | does anyone know the story with mono? Is versions right in saying we are out of date? | 08:39 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, I asked to the mono guys 2 days ago, they are working on getting 2.4.2, should be there within a week | 08:40 |
| robert_ancell | cool | 08:40 |
| mvo | seb128: I take the gnome-session upload if you don't mind? | 08:44 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, no update from you today? ;-) | 08:44 |
| seb128 | mvo, I was just building it and changed the bug status ... did you start on it? | 08:44 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, package updates? I thought I'd leave some for others :) | 08:45 |
| seb128 | mvo, in fact no it lacks build-depends so build didn't start, please take it so I will do another update ;-) | 08:45 |
| seb128 | mvo, or wait, I did review it no need to redo that | 08:46 |
| robert_ancell | and I heard you guys had a backlog anyway ;) | 08:46 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, not a desktop backlog ;-) we are mostly good on desktop updates anyway | 08:46 |
| seb128 | mvo, should I continue on it or do you want to do it? ;-) | 08:48 |
| mvo | seb128: if you are on it anyway, just go ahead | 08:49 |
| seb128 | mvo, ok, doing that then | 08:49 |
| mvo | seb128: I just updated the branch so far | 08:49 |
| mvo | thanks | 08:49 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, hey | 08:51 |
| chrisccoulson | hi seb128 | 08:51 |
| seb128 | brb session restart to try gnome-session update | 08:53 |
| mac_v | guys... About discussing upgrading an app[vuze3.0 to 4.0] in the universe repo? can the mail be sent to the ubuntu-desktop mailing list? is it under the ubuntu-desktop perview? | 08:54 |
| seb128 | mac_v, hi, no, universe is a motu thing | 08:55 |
| seb128 | mac_v, did you manage to fix your apport issue? | 08:55 |
| mac_v | ah... yeah thanx... by the time i fixed you were on a session restart... didnt inform you | 08:56 |
| mac_v | sorry .. | 08:56 |
| seb128 | no problem, so the lp_credential move did the trick? | 08:56 |
| mac_v | yeah... i added a comment regarding this in the bug report, but the ideal way would be to allow the used to change the setting the next time | 08:57 |
| mac_v | i was looking everywhere for the crediantilas files *except* in the cache .:face-palm: | 08:58 |
| asac | anyone with hardy/intrepid/jaunty here ;)? | 08:59 |
| mac_v | asac: i have a jaunty, i could boot into... | 09:00 |
| asac | mac_v: would you mind being a pre-pre tester for a security/stability related nss/nspr lib update? https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-security/+archive/nss3.12.3 ... | 09:01 |
| asac | mac_v: its just upgrading and then using firefox and a few other apps | 09:01 |
| asac | firefox alone would be ok too ;) | 09:01 |
| asac | but evolution, thunderbird on top would be close to perfect | 09:01 |
| mac_v | asac: do you want it for now or a regular testing? since its a dual boot , i use Karmic mainly | 09:02 |
| asac | mac_v: its a one time thing | 09:02 |
| asac | just so i know that it works/blows up in general ;) | 09:02 |
| asac | i will get more testers on it once i know that it works a bit | 09:03 |
| mac_v | asac: ah... no probs... i use thunderbird too , will test it in an hour | 09:03 |
| asac | grat | 09:03 |
| asac | great | 09:03 |
| asac | ;) | 09:03 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, still interested by doing the gnome-applets update? | 09:04 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128 - yeah, i can do that if noone has worked on it by the time i finish work | 09:06 |
| seb128 | ok | 09:06 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, good work on gnome-session btw ;-) | 09:06 |
| seb128 | and one extra application using the new kits | 09:06 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, if you do the gnome-applets update might be worth considering the polkit1 patch on bugzilla too | 09:07 |
| chrisccoulson | thanks. yeah, i'll take a look at that then | 09:07 |
| chrisccoulson | what uses policykit in gnome-applets? | 09:07 |
| chrisccoulson | ah | 09:07 |
| chrisccoulson | cpufreq-selector? | 09:07 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, right | 09:08 |
| seb128 | doh powerpc buildds | 09:08 |
| seb128 | "WARNING: this version of the GNU libc requires kernel version | 09:08 |
| seb128 | 2.6.18 or later. Please upgrade your kernel before installing | 09:08 |
| seb128 | glibc. | 09:08 |
| seb128 | " | 09:08 |
| seb128 | mvo, impressive apt update to debian ;-) | 09:09 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128 - yeah, i'm seeing that for everything i upload now | 09:09 |
| mvo | seb128: yeah, the list of changes is pretty long :) | 09:10 |
| seb128 | mvo, next time somebody complain about it not being maintained I will give a good kick and point them there ;-) | 09:11 |
| mvo | haha - yeah | 09:11 |
| seb128 | mvo, lot of different names too | 09:11 |
| mvo | reading stuff like that (unmaintained) hurts, no fun :( | 09:11 |
| mvo | yeah :) | 09:11 |
| seb128 | is david the new contributor? | 09:12 |
| mvo | we go some new guys, david is great | 09:12 |
| seb128 | cool | 09:12 |
| mvo | (fun as well) | 09:12 |
| mvo | I initially wanted to name the release "no dead yet" :) | 09:12 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: oh, does the new gnome-session bring back suspend/hibernate to the shutdown dialog? | 09:13 |
| pitti | that broke with the new g-p-m | 09:13 |
| vuntz | pitti: it should | 09:13 |
| pitti | \o/ | 09:13 |
| * pitti hugs vuntz, bonjour! | 09:13 | |
| seb128 | pitti, it does there | 09:14 |
| seb128 | lut vuntz | 09:14 |
| vuntz | hola | 09:14 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - yeah, i get a suspend icon now | 09:14 |
| seb128 | vuntz, t'as vu ce que je demandais y a 2 jours? | 09:14 |
| seb128 | vuntz, the question about the gnome-patch to fix ordering issues | 09:15 |
| vuntz | ah, I remember. Didn't have time to look, but will try to look at it | 09:15 |
| pitti | seb128: oh, sharing desktop? | 09:15 |
| seb128 | pitti, I just clicked on the empathy item to see what it does | 09:16 |
| pitti | seb128: right, I got an invitation to share screen | 09:16 |
| pitti | but now I just have the VNC viewer open | 09:16 |
| seb128 | pitti, I did undo the demand there I though it would not work with your not uptodate empathy | 09:16 |
| pitti | ah | 09:17 |
| seb128 | pitti, let's try again | 09:18 |
| pitti | oh, seems I have some kind of connection now | 09:18 |
| seb128 | I got a notify bubble saying you control my desktop | 09:19 |
| seb128 | is that true? | 09:19 |
| pitti | I accepted the invitation, have VNC viewer now, and see a totally black screen | 09:19 |
| pitti | hmm | 09:19 |
| seb128 | pitti, could be that my dsl upload is too slow for that | 09:19 |
| pitti | seb128: if I select "original size" in the menu, I get something like a 150x50 window | 09:20 |
| pitti | I don't believe that you are working on a stamp-sized screen :) | 09:20 |
| pitti | seb128: do I need a new telepathy something for that? | 09:20 |
| seb128 | 1680x1050 | 09:20 |
| seb128 | dunno | 09:20 |
| seb128 | cassidy, Zdra: ^ | 09:20 |
| pitti | the vnc plugin is enabled, anyway | 09:21 |
| pitti | I'm on karmic current | 09:21 |
| seb128 | you disconnected | 09:21 |
| seb128 | pitti, my vinagre was outdated, let's try again? | 09:22 |
| Zdra | seb128: the slow connection depends on the relay you are using | 09:22 |
| Zdra | seb128: you are behind a NAT? | 09:22 |
| Zdra | seb128: tubes don't have nat traversal yet :( | 09:22 |
| seb128 | Zdra, behind a dsl router | 09:22 |
| pitti | so am I | 09:22 |
| pitti | so that would be it then, I guess | 09:23 |
| Zdra | yep, so we have an hardcoded list of proxy to use, it pick one randomly | 09:23 |
| pitti | *nnnng* IPv6!!! now!!! | 09:23 |
| Zdra | if no luck, it is really slow | 09:23 |
| Zdra | unless your jabber server gives its own proxy | 09:23 |
| seb128 | well no screen at all displayed right now | 09:24 |
| Zdra | seb128: pitti: the same connection mechanism is used for filetransfer | 09:24 |
| pitti | could I add a port forward to my router? which port? | 09:24 |
| pitti | oh, empathy has file transfer? | 09:24 |
| pitti | I didn't find that functionality, I was already missing it | 09:24 |
| Zdra | pitti: sure | 09:24 |
| pitti | oh, I do have it for jabber, but not for ICQ | 09:25 |
| * Zdra can't wait for gabble using libnice for nat traversal! | 09:25 | |
| Zdra | pitti: file transfer is only for jabber and salut | 09:26 |
| Zdra | msn coming "soon" | 09:26 |
| mvo | vuntz: I'm looking at the script-on-shutdown thing again, the environment for the scripts will just be a additional "GSM_MANAGER_LOGOUT_TYPE={logout,reboot,shutdown}" - is that naming ok with you? | 10:02 |
| vuntz | mvo: sounds good | 10:06 |
| mvo | vuntz: any problems with using environ? or should I use g_listenv(), g_getenv() (the later is a bit cumbersome to use) | 10:19 |
| vuntz | mvo: hrm, why do you need this? Isn't just a simple g_setenv()? | 10:22 |
| mvo | vuntz: if that is ok then sure :) I guess its no problem because the session is shuting down anyway, my initial impulse was to pass it to g_spawn via envp, but if its ok to just use g_setenv, everything is much simpler :) | 10:24 |
| vuntz | mvo: well, no other applications than the script-on-shutdown ones should be spawned by the session manager, so... | 10:28 |
| seb128 | pitti, is there a way to force a .crash reprocessing? | 10:28 |
| seb128 | pitti, ie to test hooks easily | 10:29 |
| seb128 | pitti, I want to do magic on the Stacktrace but sending a sig11 each time and waiting for the dump is annoying | 10:29 |
| mvo | vuntz: excellent, thanks | 10:29 |
| pitti | seb128: does it need to be a crash? for a general hook, just use ubuntu-bug package (as if you'd file a bug), look at details, cancel | 10:29 |
| * mvo removes a bunch of lines | 10:29 | |
| pitti | ah | 10:29 |
| pitti | seb128: 1. generate crash; 2. cp /var/crash/foo.crash /tmp/; apport-gtk -c /tmp/foo.crash | 10:29 |
| seb128 | pitti, I guess I can fake a stacktrace add with attach_file | 10:30 |
| seb128 | in the hook | 10:30 |
| pitti | 3. change hook; 4. goto 2 | 10:30 |
| seb128 | pitti, ok thanks | 10:30 |
| dpm | seb128: by looking at the Karmic translations import queue, I see that the evolution and e-d-s uploads a couple of days ago have got evolution-.pot and evolution-data-server-.pot templates. I think that was an attempt to remove the version number from the template name, but the dash at the end of the name should be removed. Could you have a look into that? | 10:36 |
| seb128 | dpm, will do, thanks for noticing | 10:36 |
| dpm | thanks | 10:36 |
| dpm | seb128: whenever you've got time to do it, could you please ping me when it's done? Then I'll know when I have to remove the old "dash" templates | 10:38 |
| seb128 | dpm, you can already drop those they are wrong naming | 10:38 |
| dpm | seb128: actually, good point. I'll disable them now | 10:39 |
| seb128 | dpm, thanks | 10:39 |
| seb128 | pitti, adding a "attach_file(report, "/tmp/Stacktrace", "StackTrace")" did the trick easily | 10:40 |
| seb128 | pitti, so I can keep using ubuntu-bug -p bug | 10:40 |
| pitti | seb128: that works, too, just a little more effort than a cp; apport-gtk -c invocation | 10:41 |
| seb128 | pitti, it's faster than processing the .crash with the dump though ;-) | 10:41 |
| seb128 | anyway either way is working | 10:41 |
| seb128 | thanks | 10:41 |
| pitti | ah, indeed | 10:41 |
| seb128 | pitti, attach_related_packages() doesn't run the packages hooks right? | 10:42 |
| pitti | no | 10:43 |
| pitti | seb128: as I said, I'm happy to add an optional package arg to add_hooks_info() | 10:43 |
| seb128 | pitti, ok, will open a bug about that | 10:45 |
| seb128 | pitti, and is there a way to reassign the bug automatically? | 10:46 |
| seb128 | pitti, ie to say if the stacktrace contains some library name reassing to that component | 10:46 |
| seb128 | use, if nautilus crashes in libnautilus-ubuntuone the bug should go to ubuntuone-client | 10:46 |
| pitti | seb128: call add_package_info('new_binary_package_name') | 10:47 |
| pitti | seb128: such things are easier to do in a bug pattern, though | 10:47 |
| pitti | ah, for new crashes | 10:47 |
| pitti | right, makes sense | 10:47 |
| pitti | sorry | 10:47 |
| pitti | seb128: and, great idea! | 10:48 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 10:48 |
| seb128 | I'm a bit confused on how to do it right now | 10:48 |
| seb128 | ah ok, gotcha | 10:50 |
| seb128 | if 'ubuntuone' in report['StackTrace']: | 10:50 |
| seb128 | report.add_package_info("ubuntuone-client") | 10:50 |
| pitti | seb128: right, looks good | 10:54 |
| pitti | seb128: however, it's "Stacktrace", not "StackTrace" | 10:54 |
| seb128 | pitti, http://paste.ubuntu.com/236464/ | 10:54 |
| seb128 | pitti, http://paste.ubuntu.com/236467/ looks right? | 10:55 |
| pitti | seb128: please use apport.packaging.get_file_package(files) instead of the dpkg -S stuff | 10:56 |
| seb128 | pitti, thanks, I didn't know about that, I've been looking to "python -c 'import apport.hookutils; help(apport.hookutils)'" basically | 10:56 |
| seb128 | pitti, http://paste.ubuntu.com/236474/ better? | 11:01 |
| seb128 | pitti, seems to work fine sorry for all the questions and thanks again ;-) | 11:02 |
| seb128 | apport rocks | 11:02 |
| pitti | seb128: looks good! | 11:02 |
| pitti | seb128: no need to be sorry, it's not that obvious | 11:02 |
| * pitti hugs seb128 | 11:03 | |
| * seb128 hugs pitti | 11:03 | |
| seb128 | anybody wanting to have a look to http://paste.ubuntu.com/236490/ and comment if the code looks ok? | 11:22 |
| seb128 | especially the code to recurse over the stacktrace to find /usr/lib/nautilus.... | 11:23 |
| pitti | seb128: wouldn't it be easier to do | 11:24 |
| pitti | if '/usr/lib/nautilus' in report.get('Stacktrace', ''): | 11:24 |
| seb128 | hum, could split() the whole text | 11:24 |
| pitti | add_package_info() | 11:24 |
| pitti | ah, ignore me | 11:25 |
| seb128 | pitti, well, I need to figure what package | 11:25 |
| pitti | right | 11:25 |
| pitti | it looks a bit complex, but ok to me | 11:26 |
| seb128 | for words in report["Stacktrace"].split(): | 11:26 |
| seb128 | if words.startswith("/usr/lib/nautilus"): | 11:26 |
| seb128 | report.add_package_info(apport.packaging.get_file_package(words)) | 11:26 |
| seb128 | can do that | 11:26 |
| seb128 | that drop one recursion, I direct split all the words | 11:26 |
| seb128 | ok, let's do that | 11:26 |
| pitti | that should work, too | 11:27 |
| seb128 | ok, I did some testing and I'm happy with it | 11:27 |
| pitti | seb128: report.get('Stacktrace', ''), though | 11:27 |
| pitti | just in case it's not there | 11:27 |
| seb128 | let's upload and see how it goes | 11:27 |
| geser | seb128: why do you only collect infomation about /usr/lib/nautilus when it doesn't appear in the stackstrace? | 11:27 |
| pitti | i. e. for ubuntu-bug nautilus you won't have a trace | 11:27 |
| seb128 | pitti, hum? | 11:27 |
| pitti | seb128: oh, you have a separate has_key(); that work, stoo | 11:28 |
| pitti | "works, too" | 11:28 |
| seb128 | geser, because when it is in the stacktrace we open the bug on the said component and not nautilus | 11:28 |
| geser | ah | 11:28 |
| seb128 | geser, ie libnautilus-gdu.so -> gnome-disk-utils | 11:29 |
| seb128 | geser, I'm not sure that infos about nautilus would be revelant in such cases | 11:29 |
| seb128 | anyway we can tweak the hook later if required | 11:29 |
| geser | true | 11:29 |
| seb128 | thanks for reviews | 11:29 |
| geser | is this line-splitting better/faster than using a regex on the Stackstrace? | 11:30 |
| seb128 | geser, no clue I took the easiest way, I doubt it will make a difference compared to the coredump processing | 11:32 |
| seb128 | ie some milliseconds where gdb will take some 30 seconds | 11:32 |
| seb128 | gdb or whatever processes the crash | 11:32 |
| geser | ok | 11:32 |
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| seb128 | Zdra, cassidy: who would be interested by a telepathy-butterfly crash + patch on launchpad? | 12:20 |
| seb128 | the bug has a log so it's private but I can subscribe somebody | 12:20 |
| seb128 | bug #406710 | 12:20 |
| ubottu | Bug 406710 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/406710 is private | 12:20 |
| seb128 | lunch, brb | 12:20 |
| cassidy | seb128: you can subscribe me, I'll fw to the butterfly maintainer | 12:20 |
| Zdra | seb128: istaz probably | 12:20 |
| pitti | lunch and doctor appointment, bbl | 12:23 |
| chrisccoulson | mvo - you ported ubuntu-system-service to polkit-1 didn't you? | 12:29 |
| mvo | chrisccoulson: yes | 12:30 |
| chrisccoulson | cool, thanks | 12:30 |
| crevette | asac, around? | 12:33 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128 - i'll apply the upstream polkit-1 patch to gconf too if you like. i think we need it now as the gnome-power-manager capplet uses the gconf-defaults mechanism and has already been ported i think | 12:34 |
| crevette | asac, I tried to pacakge gnome-bluetooth but running it I have some trouble -> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-bluetooth/+bug/406592 | 12:35 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 406592 in gnome-bluetooth "please sponsor new release 2.27.8" [Undecided,New] | 12:35 |
| crevette | if someone can unsubscribed universe sponsors, someone subscribed them for me ... | 12:36 |
| seb128 | cassidy, done | 12:40 |
| seb128 | cassidy, you should be able to see the bug now | 12:40 |
| cassidy | seb128: I am, thanks | 12:42 |
| seb128 | good, thanks for have a look to the bug ;-) | 12:42 |
| asac | crevette: doest it work if you run it from the built source tree? | 12:46 |
| asac | otherwise its likely a coding bug. check fedora if they have any patches or more recent snapshot. | 12:47 |
| crevette | I don't know, I used ppa, I know how to build it in pbuilder, but not how to keep the builddir | 12:47 |
| crevette | however jhbuild workds perfectly | 12:48 |
| seb128 | didrocks, hey | 12:48 |
| seb128 | didrocks, kov is packaging clutter-1.0 in pkg-gnome svn | 12:48 |
| didrocks | seb128: yep ? :) | 12:48 |
| seb128 | didrocks, if you want to update that later this week ;-) | 12:48 |
| asac | crevette: apt-get build-dep gnome-bluetooth .... and then kick it off outside the pbuilder ;) | 12:48 |
| didrocks | seb128: I have already merge with on version in pkg-gnome svn | 12:48 |
| didrocks | merged* | 12:49 |
| geser | crevette: done (unsubscribing u-u-s) | 12:49 |
| seb128 | didrocks, waouh, you are quick ;-) | 12:49 |
| didrocks | seb128: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/clutter-0.9 :) | 12:49 |
| seb128 | didrocks, oh, there is 1.0, ie new source | 12:49 |
| seb128 | they turned 0.9 stable to 1.0 | 12:50 |
| asac | crevette: you regularly work on gnome stuff, so those few build depends wont hurt you i am sure ;) | 12:50 |
| didrocks | oh 1.0, sorry, I read it too fast | 12:50 |
| didrocks | seb128: great \o/ | 12:50 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 12:50 |
| didrocks | ok, I'm doing that | 12:50 |
| didrocks | then we can make a place for mutter into karmic :) | 12:50 |
| didrocks | and then, pushing it back to pkg-gnome svn? | 12:50 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 12:50 |
| seb128 | would be nice | 12:50 |
| crevette_ | asac, I'm not certain this is a build depends problem, but rather a packaging issue, that's why I'm a bit stuck. | 12:52 |
| seb128 | lool, any opinion on the change http://launchpadlibrarian.net/29712507/gdm_2.27.4-0ubuntu7.debdiff? I think you were looking at those no password login | 12:52 |
| crevette_ | does the content of *.symbols has consequences? | 12:52 |
| asac | crevette_: you can easily figure it by building the package and then trying to run it from the built tree | 12:53 |
| asac | crevette_: if that works you just need to figure which files you forgot or not | 12:54 |
| crevette_ | so I need to ressurect a pbuilder tree .. | 12:54 |
| asac | crevette_: if it doesnt help then its a build or code problem | 12:54 |
| crevette_ | the code seems to be okay, as I say, jhuilld build works fine | 12:54 |
| asac | crevette_: yes, but what i meant with apt-get builde-dep is that you should stop using pbuilders for such things :) | 12:54 |
| asac | pbuilders are good to do a sanity check on packages | 12:55 |
| asac | but not good for development ;) | 12:55 |
| asac | but you can also keep the tree if you find out how to do that ;) | 12:55 |
| === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch | ||
| asac | could also be that its build parameters or something. but | 12:58 |
| asac | i can check it out when i come back from lunch and you didnt get further yet | 12:59 |
| * asac off to lunch | 12:59 | |
| crevette_ | asac, I won't have time to check while i'm work | 12:59 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, you were saying? | 13:04 |
| chrisccoulson | hi seb128 | 13:04 |
| seb128 | hey again ;-) | 13:04 |
| chrisccoulson | did you not see what i wrote? (i've got no scollback now as I went away for lunch) | 13:04 |
| seb128 | I did, but you were not around and I restarted IRC since | 13:05 |
| seb128 | let me think | 13:05 |
| seb128 | oh, the polkit1 thing | 13:05 |
| seb128 | yes backporting for gconf seems good | 13:06 |
| chrisccoulson | ah, that's ok. yeah, that's it. i'll apply the gconf patch from upstream later | 13:06 |
| chrisccoulson | right, i've got to go again now - i have a meeting | 13:06 |
| === crevette_ is now known as crevette | ||
| mac_v | asac: i'v been using the nss update in jaunty, firefox,thunderbird and evolution have *not* caught on fire ;p | 13:30 |
| asac | mac_v: great | 13:31 |
| mac_v | asac: anything else you want me to check?... | 13:32 |
| asac | mac_v: if you are still on jaunty checkout apt-cache rdepends libnss3-1d and maybe try another ;) | 13:32 |
| asac | otherwise its great | 13:32 |
| * mac_v itching to get back to karmic ;p | 13:32 | |
| seb128 | dobey, hi | 13:32 |
| seb128 | dobey, do you know why that doesn't work with intltool-update? | 13:33 |
| seb128 | AC_SUBST([BASE_VERSION],[base_version]) | 13:33 |
| seb128 | GETTEXT_PACKAGE=evolution-$BASE_VERSION | 13:34 |
| seb128 | dobey, that's basically what evolution does and it gives an "evolution-" template | 13:34 |
| seb128 | base_version is correctly defined as 2.28 | 13:35 |
| asac | mac_v: oh i have something else if you are still on jaunty ;) | 13:40 |
| asac | mac_v: install the nspr and nss packages from intrepid and see if it still works | 13:41 |
| mac_v | still on jaunty... checking the rdepends | 13:41 |
| mac_v | ok... | 13:41 |
| asac | libnspr4-0d libnss3-1d | 13:41 |
| asac | mac_v: the intreid packages from that ppa i mean (not from real archive) | 13:41 |
| mac_v | yeah | 13:42 |
| === WelshDragon is now known as Cuddles | ||
| lool | seb128: Sorry was on a call | 13:55 |
| lool | seb128: That debdiff reminds me of something I wanted to touch a long while ago but I frankly don't remember much about it | 13:56 |
| seb128 | ok | 13:56 |
| mac_v | asac: everything seems fine... no problems with intrepid either | 13:57 |
| lool | seb128: It doesn't sound like a too bad idea to use a group to define who can login without password in gdm; perhaps security folks or pitti have an opinion | 13:57 |
| lool | The implementation is ok | 13:57 |
| === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow | ||
| seb128 | pitti, ^ any opinion? | 13:57 |
| seb128 | mclasen, hi | 14:03 |
| mclasen | hey | 14:04 |
| seb128 | mclasen, do you have edit access to http://library.gnome.org/devel/gtk/stable/gtk-migrating-GtkBuilder.html or do you know where to open bugs about it? | 14:04 |
| seb128 | mclasen, the "g_warning ("Couldn't load builder file: s", error->message);" lacks a "%" | 14:04 |
| mclasen | I've fixed that a while ago | 14:04 |
| mclasen | should be fixed in 2.17.6 | 14:04 |
| mclasen | has that not made it onto library.g.o ? | 14:04 |
| seb128 | mclasen, http://library.gnome.org/devel/gtk/unstable/gtk-migrating-GtkBuilder.html has a "&s", shouldn't it be "%s" ? | 14:04 |
| mclasen | or are you looking at the stable api docs ? | 14:05 |
| seb128 | mclasen, stable is buggy, unstable has "&s" | 14:05 |
| lool | seb128: I'd poke fredp about library.gnome.org, I understand he has admin access? | 14:05 |
| mclasen | its all automatic | 14:05 |
| seb128 | mclasen, shouldn't it be "%s"? | 14:05 |
| mclasen | but the &s is wrong in any case | 14:05 |
| mclasen | I'll fix that | 14:06 |
| seb128 | thanks | 14:06 |
| seb128 | do you want a bug on bugzilla as reminder? | 14:06 |
| seb128 | or should I just fix it to git? | 14:06 |
| mclasen | you can just fix it" s/&/&perc;/ or so | 14:06 |
| seb128 | hum, I don't have a gtk+ checkout there ... so if you could do it I would appreciate | 14:07 |
| seb128 | my download is sort of busy right now | 14:07 |
| mclasen | sure | 14:07 |
| seb128 | thanks ;-) | 14:07 |
| mclasen | let me find the right entity name | 14:07 |
| mclasen | ah, % | 14:07 |
| seb128 | right | 14:08 |
| dobey | seb128: what is GETTEXT_PACKAGE set to in the final Makefile? | 14:18 |
| seb128 | dobey, not sure but that has been fixed by defining the variable again in git now | 14:19 |
| seb128 | thanks anyway ;-) | 14:19 |
| seb128 | it's not due to the Makefile, just adding the line in configure.ac and running intltool-update is enough to make it work | 14:19 |
| dpm | Is there anyone around who could have a look at this one? -> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cheese/+bug/188690. I think it is just a matter of including /usr/share/cdbs/1/rules/langpack.mk in debian/rules, so that the template is created and cheese can be translatable in Launchpad | 14:20 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 188690 in debootstrap "does not create a PO template on build" [Wishlist,Fix released] | 14:20 |
| seb128 | dpm, looking | 14:21 |
| * kenvandine is very pleased to see empathy and screensharing just work :) | 14:21 | |
| dobey | oh i guess the Makefile would have been ok, since the AC_SUBST() defines BASE_VERSION in the Makefile, but it doesn't define it in the configure.ac | 14:21 |
| dobey | which is the problem | 14:22 |
| seb128 | right | 14:22 |
| seb128 | shouldn't intltool-update do variable subst? | 14:22 |
| pitti | lool: this seems a little weird to me, though; you'd essentially have no boundary between those users any more | 14:22 |
| dobey | it does but there is no variable to subst in that case | 14:23 |
| dpm | thanks seb128 | 14:23 |
| dobey | (now there is) | 14:23 |
| * pitti has a fever and will take the rest of the day off, I'm afraid | 14:23 | |
| pitti | better sleep it off now | 14:23 |
| seb128 | pitti, take care! | 14:23 |
| kenvandine | later pitti | 14:23 |
| seb128 | pitti, and try not bringing the flu to the sprint ;-) | 14:24 |
| didrocks | have a good snap :) | 14:24 |
| seb128 | hey kenvandine | 14:24 |
| pitti | seb128: trying hard, and no hugging this time :/ | 14:24 |
| kenvandine | hey seb128 | 14:24 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, any chance you would investigate the evolution-indicator build issue? | 14:24 |
| kenvandine | i talked to ted about that last week | 14:24 |
| kenvandine | he was gonna look | 14:24 |
| kenvandine | i can take a look too | 14:25 |
| seb128 | ted seems to have lot of things to do he could maybe use some help there | 14:25 |
| kenvandine | yeah | 14:25 |
| seb128 | dunno how busy you are though | 14:25 |
| kenvandine | still got quite a bit to get done before saturday :/ | 14:25 |
| kenvandine | but i can take a stab at it | 14:25 |
| * kenvandine is getting tired of not having it :) | 14:26 | |
| kenvandine | ah | 14:29 |
| * kenvandine got it to build | 14:29 | |
| seb128 | was easy apparently ;-) | 14:29 |
| * kenvandine will prepare a patch and a branch :) | 14:29 | |
| kenvandine | configure.ac | 14:29 |
| kenvandine | needed to check for gtkhtml-editor | 14:29 |
| seb128 | ah ok, easy enough | 14:29 |
| seb128 | I'm wondering why that was not required before | 14:30 |
| seb128 | it was relying on indirect triggers? | 14:30 |
| kenvandine | yeah... or evo used to embed it's own | 14:32 |
| kenvandine | which i think it used to do | 14:32 |
| kenvandine | although i don't see why evolution-indicator needs gtkhtml for :) | 14:33 |
| kenvandine | i guess just because it builds against evo | 14:33 |
| seb128 | well either it uses it or not | 14:34 |
| walters | Keybuk: around? | 14:34 |
| seb128 | if it doesn't adding gtkhtml-editor to it is wrong | 14:34 |
| seb128 | +, | 14:34 |
| asac | mac_v: many thx | 14:34 |
| seb128 | could be an evolution bug for not listing gtkhtml-editor in a .pc where it should | 14:34 |
| kenvandine | i am looking | 14:34 |
| mac_v | asac: np... :) | 14:34 |
| kenvandine | seb128, yeah... it looks like an evo bug | 14:35 |
| Keybuk | walters: yuppers | 14:35 |
| walters | Keybuk: where were we on this dbus build issue? i have the patch i sent you still in my git diff | 14:36 |
| Keybuk | walters: ok, I did some debugging on that | 14:36 |
| walters | Keybuk: are you guys using the one from mbebl in https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22805 ? | 14:36 |
| Keybuk | walters: it's caused by Ubuntu's use of -Wl,--as-needed | 14:36 |
| ubottu | Freedesktop bug 22805 in core "[PATCH] Fix spurious build failures on ia64 and alpha with -Wl,--as-needed" [Normal,New] | 14:36 |
| Keybuk | walters: the libdbus-convenience.la is the library that needs $(DBUS_TEST_LIBS) in its LIBADD | 14:36 |
| Keybuk | otherwise deps get stripped by the linker as you go up | 14:37 |
| walters | Keybuk: yeah that's what i was going to ask you is if the original patch worked | 14:37 |
| Keybuk | the original patch did not work | 14:37 |
| walters | the one that just did +libdbus_testutils_la_LIBADD = $(DBUS_TEST_LIBS) | 14:37 |
| walters | ok so we need the full one | 14:37 |
| Keybuk | mbiebl's patch looks like it might work too | 14:37 |
| Keybuk | right, testutils was ok - it didn';t need that | 14:37 |
| walters | oh you have a different one? there's 3? | 14:37 |
| Keybuk | it was libdbus_convenience_la_LIBADD = $(DBUS_TEST_LIBS) that was needed | 14:37 |
| Keybuk | (for me anyway) | 14:38 |
| walters | ahh ok, sounds right | 14:38 |
| lool | pitti: Well for instance at home my wife and I logon to the same computer because we have different music collections; I wouldn't need any password between these accounts though | 14:41 |
| lool | Or firefox profiles, or desktop background etc. | 14:41 |
| lool | pitti: Not sure what you're asking about) | 14:41 |
| walters | Keybuk: hmm, i think using DBUS_CLIENT_LIBS is slightly more correct, but it doesn't really matter since they're both just $THREAD_LIBS | 14:43 |
| tseliot | Keybuk: are you happy (or at least less angry) about the workaround that I suggested for bug 400697 ? | 14:43 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 400697 in xserver-xorg-input-synaptics "Cannot disable touchpad buttons" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/400697 | 14:43 |
| walters | Keybuk: but that patch sounds fine either way, do you want to push that upstream? | 14:43 |
| Keybuk | walters: sure, I'll probably get to it on Monday though | 14:44 |
| Keybuk | tseliot: it's a fix I can live with ;) | 14:44 |
| walters | Keybuk: ok no problem, i was just about to apply lennart's sigint patch and noticed it in my diff | 14:44 |
| Keybuk | ah, if you're applying things anyway, go right ahead | 14:45 |
| tseliot | Keybuk: good :-) | 14:45 |
| asac | mvo: i assume one cannot access apt sources info during package build? | 15:15 |
| asac | apt Packages i mean | 15:15 |
| mvo | asac: on the buildds ? no, they usually build without net access | 15:19 |
| asac | mvo: yeah. just wondered if one has access to the local db ... or if that is not populated | 15:22 |
| seb128 | hum, versions is broken | 15:28 |
| mvo | asac: I don't think so, what problem do you want to solve? could it be done via build-deps | 15:28 |
| seb128 | I blame it on mvo ;-) | 15:28 |
| seb128 | (it's crashing on rookery for some reason) | 15:28 |
| mvo | hm? | 15:28 |
| seb128 | mvo, ignore me, I've no clue about where it's crashing ;-) | 15:29 |
| seb128 | the box has no gdb or valgrind | 15:29 |
| seb128 | it does a " *** glibc detected *** double free or corruption (!prev): 0x08e91458 ***" | 15:29 |
| seb128 | in the python apt code to update the debian packages index | 15:30 |
| seb128 | but the same code worked yesterday | 15:30 |
| seb128 | and cleaning the cache dir doesn't make a difference | 15:30 |
| seb128 | and the same code works locally | 15:30 |
| seb128 | ie I've no clue what's going on | 15:30 |
| seb128 | I blame it on Ng | 15:31 |
| Ng | yes, it's all my fault | 15:34 |
| Ng | it's probably one of kees' security features ;) | 15:34 |
| asac | mvo: we have now feature in mozilla-devscript to automatically find extension dependencies on mozilla apps ... so somewhat similar to shlibs | 15:36 |
| asac | mvo: howver, i owuld prefere if an extension does not need to depend on all the applications it support | 15:37 |
| asac | mvo: so i hoped i could put something like Xb-Moz-App-Version in the Packages db ;) | 15:37 |
| asac | but seems its not going to work :( | 15:37 |
| asac | mvo: basically having a list of target application ids to packages is maintained in the helper file itself. the only problem is the version | 15:38 |
| asac | because some might not be compatible with our version of the package etc. so we wouldnt add it to ${xpi:Depends} | 15:38 |
| seb128 | awe, hi | 15:45 |
| seb128 | awe, could be faster to discuss your bug there | 15:45 |
| seb128 | awe, usually you can just use "DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS="debug nostrip nooopt" dpkg-buildpackage" | 15:45 |
| awe | seb128: hey! | 15:49 |
| asac | awe: hi. so we some luck we might have EAP during sprint ;) | 16:00 |
| awe | asac: cool | 16:04 |
| awe | asac: so i kinda got side-tracked with bluetooth testing this week. found a crash in gnome-settings-daemon that i've been working with seb128 to nail down... | 16:05 |
| asac | awe: interesting. | 16:05 |
| awe | also, i'm taking off early today... i have to drive back to boston ( at my folks in NH ) and fly out tonight | 16:06 |
| asac | awe: i will merge your stuff now and upload. did you also have a trunk merge for the patch? | 16:06 |
| awe | for the dialog changes? | 16:06 |
| asac | yes | 16:06 |
| awe | lemme check, i think so... | 16:06 |
| asac | awe: what kind of bluetooth tests did you do? | 16:07 |
| seb128 | asac, bug #404538 is what we are discussing | 16:10 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 404538 in gnome-settings-daemon "gnome-settings-daemon crashed with SIGSEGV in gvc_mixer_stream_is_running()" [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/404538 | 16:10 |
| awe | asac: i didn't have trunk branch, cause i couldn't find the master trunk branch for the applet. | 16:11 |
| asac | awe: oh ok. i think i didnt push it on first | 16:11 |
| awe | asac: i ran a bunch of tests with a bt headset with both blueman and gnome-bluetooth | 16:12 |
| awe | toggling the output device from internal sound to bt and back several times eventually causes the settings-daemon to crash | 16:12 |
| awe | asac: i patched gsd with some later code that seb128 pointed me at, but i still get the crash... | 16:12 |
| seb128 | dpm, cheese uses gnome.mk which includes langpacks.mk | 16:16 |
| rodrigo_1 | is it a known bug that the pidgin buddy list becomes irresponsive to mouse clicks, even though pidgin seems to be working fine (typing this on the conversation window) | 16:18 |
| rodrigo_1 | also, whenever it opens a dialog, I can't close them at all | 16:19 |
| seb128 | no | 16:19 |
| seb128 | what ubuntu version? | 16:19 |
| rodrigo_1 | karmic, latest | 16:19 |
| seb128 | weird | 16:19 |
| rodrigo_1 | also, on my laptop, I log in with a user, and no panel, nautilus or metacity are started | 16:20 |
| rodrigo_1 | also latest there | 16:20 |
| rodrigo_1 | will file bugs then | 16:20 |
| dpm | seb128: hmm, it didn't generate a POT template on build when I tried it | 16:20 |
| seb128 | dpm, right it doesn't but the issue is not an include one | 16:20 |
| seb128 | dpm, | 16:21 |
| seb128 | Unsuccessful open on filename containing newline at /usr/bin/intltool-update line 1071. | 16:21 |
| seb128 | intltool-update: POTFILES.in not found. | 16:21 |
| dpm | seb128: ah, great, thanks for looking at it. | 16:21 |
| seb128 | dpm, the thing is that the code doesn't work when building out of the src dir, I will fix that in cheese by doing a manual call to intltool-update | 16:22 |
| seb128 | dpm, the issue should be fixed in the version I just uploaded | 16:32 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128 / awe - how far have you managed to debug this gsd crash? | 16:34 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, I didn't try, so not far ;-) | 16:34 |
| seb128 | I've just been commenting on the bug | 16:34 |
| chrisccoulson | ah, ok. how reproducible is it? (i might try and have a look later) | 16:35 |
| dpm | seb128: awesome, thanks a lot, translators will be pleased | 16:35 |
| awe | chrisccoulson: the stack trace seems to point at gvc_mixer_stream_is_running() | 16:35 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, the instruction seems to require bluetooth device so I didn't try I've no hardware for that | 16:35 |
| awe | chrisccoulson: I can reproduce easily | 16:36 |
| chrisccoulson | does it need a bluetooth device, or just any way of adding/removing sound devices? i've got a USB headset which i can flip the default sink with, and that might trigger it too | 16:36 |
| chrisccoulson | (i cant try until i finish work though) | 16:36 |
| awe | chrisccoulson, yea, that might do it to | 16:36 |
| chrisccoulson | darned work gets in the way of everything that's fun | 16:37 |
| awe | chrisccoulson: i just toggle the output device back and forth between bt & internal and it crashes | 16:37 |
| awe | fyi, i'm using a later version than in karmic ( see the bug details ) | 16:37 |
| awe | chrisccoulson, i just built a debug version of the package and am trying to narrow it down | 16:38 |
| chrisccoulson | i havent had a good look at the code but it might be that the GvcMixerStream gets unref'd whilst it's still the default sink | 16:38 |
| chrisccoulson | it's wierd that the g-v-c-applet doesn't crash too though - it seems to use pretty much exactly the same code | 16:39 |
| chrisccoulson | awe - if you don't have it solved before i get home, i'll try and help a bit too ;) | 16:40 |
| awe | chrisccoulson, np. i'm actually heading home to boston from NH in an hour or so... then on to the airport to head to dublin. thanks for the help! | 16:42 |
| chrisccoulson | no problem! it's a long journey for you ;) | 16:43 |
| istaz | seb128: as Zdra said, you can assign me the butterfly bug (launchpad account is olethanh) | 17:03 |
| seb128 | istaz, ok thanks | 17:04 |
| asac | seb128: what exactly does an app need to do to register itself as a handler for a certain mime type (through desktop) | 17:10 |
| asac | what needs to be run to update the db? | 17:10 |
| seb128 | asac, use Mimetype= in the .desktop entry | 17:11 |
| asac | seb128: example: google-gadgets-gtk does not show up in xdg-mime query default app/gg | 17:11 |
| seb128 | asac, and run update-desktop-database | 17:11 |
| asac | ok let me check | 17:11 |
| asac | seb128: still nothing ... xdg-mime query default application/x-google-gadget returns nothing | 17:11 |
| asac | but totem works for application/x-ms-asf | 17:12 |
| seb128 | asac, do you have a Mimetype=application/x-google-gadget; in the .desktop, where is it installed too? | 17:13 |
| seb128 | asac, grep application/x-google-gadget /usr/share/applications/* | 17:13 |
| asac | seb128: http://pastebin.com/f3bdb2602 | 17:14 |
| asac | thats in the ggl-gtk.desktop in /usr/share/applications/ | 17:14 |
| asac | http://pastebin.com/f4100039f | 17:14 |
| asac | thats the grep | 17:14 |
| awe | seb128: I added more info to the gsd bug. I'm going offline now. may be on sporadically over the next 1 1/2 days. flying to dublin tonight. see you there! | 17:15 |
| asac | seems its also in mimeinfo.cache | 17:15 |
| seb128 | asac, and gvfs-open on a .gadget doesn't work? | 17:15 |
| seb128 | awe, ok, thanks, have a nice flight | 17:15 |
| seb128 | asac, gvfs-info example | grep content | 17:16 |
| seb128 | where example is a gadget | 17:16 |
| asac | seb128: well. nautilus works. but i thin kthats mapped through file extension and not through mime type | 17:17 |
| asac | let me check gvfs-open | 17:17 |
| asac | but not sure if that means something. xdg-mime just returns nothing :( | 17:17 |
| seb128 | I don't know about xdg-mime, could be buggy | 17:18 |
| === dpm is now known as dpm-afk | ||
| asac | seb128: yeah. problem is that firefox uses gnome_vfs and doesnt get any item either ;) | 17:20 |
| seb128 | asac, what is the content? | 17:20 |
| asac | seb128: google gadgets ...let me get an example | 17:24 |
| asac | you need google-gadgets-gtk installed | 17:24 |
| seb128 | asac, ok, installing | 17:25 |
| asac | http://desktop.google.com/plugins | 17:25 |
| asac | seb128: | 17:26 |
| seb128 | asac, ok, works directly in nautilus | 17:26 |
| seb128 | let me try xdg now | 17:26 |
| asac | yeah. but nautilus doesnt mean much i think. it could be a file extension mapping. not mime (though not sure what nautlius does) | 17:27 |
| seb128 | nautilus uses the filename when that's a known naming | 17:28 |
| seb128 | or the content otheriwse | 17:28 |
| seb128 | but | 17:28 |
| seb128 | " standard::content-type: application/x-google-gadget | 17:28 |
| seb128 | standard::fast-content-type: application/x-google-gadget" | 17:28 |
| asac | yes. i think thats working ... its odd | 17:28 |
| seb128 | ie both content and fast-content seem to agree | 17:28 |
| asac | we have defaults.list | 17:28 |
| asac | and mimeinfo.cache | 17:28 |
| asac | both seem to have the same kind of format | 17:28 |
| asac | _but_ | 17:28 |
| asac | google-gadget is only in mimeinfo.cache | 17:28 |
| asac | totem is in both | 17:28 |
| asac | how does something get into defaults.list? | 17:29 |
| seb128 | defaults.list is to specify a default if you have several choices | 17:29 |
| seb128 | it's a list we write | 17:29 |
| asac | right. but how is that maintained | 17:29 |
| asac | hmm | 17:29 |
| seb128 | by hand | 17:29 |
| asac | update-desktop-database doesnt work at least | 17:29 |
| seb128 | you could delete it it doesn't matter | 17:29 |
| seb128 | update-desktop-database write the mimeinfo.cache | 17:29 |
| asac | seb128: well. xdg-mime seems to look there ... and i would think gnome_vfs_... get_default too | 17:29 |
| seb128 | $ gnomevfs-info -s GoogleCalendar2.gg | 17:30 |
| seb128 | MIME type : application/x-google-gadget | 17:30 |
| seb128 | Default app : ggl-gtk.desktop | 17:30 |
| asac | seb128: can you query for mimetype too? | 17:30 |
| asac | and not file? | 17:30 |
| seb128 | no | 17:31 |
| seb128 | but it says the mimetype is application/x-google-gadget | 17:31 |
| seb128 | and find the matchin application | 17:31 |
| seb128 | seems to work | 17:31 |
| seb128 | "xdg-open GoogleCalendar2.gg" works too | 17:31 |
| asac | seb128: hah. i have the same symptom: | 17:31 |
| asac | http://paste.ubuntu.com/236897/ | 17:31 |
| asac | thats exactly what firefox thinks | 17:31 |
| asac | let me check if google really says its a zip | 17:32 |
| seb128 | gnomevfs doesn't do content detection on remote files | 17:32 |
| seb128 | it just uses the filename | 17:32 |
| asac | yes. so its probably in the http headers | 17:32 |
| asac | seb128: well. seems to be not the case here ... it say: | 17:32 |
| seb128 | or that | 17:32 |
| asac | Name: ... .gg | 17:32 |
| asac | but it still thinks its zip | 17:32 |
| asac | let me check the HTTP headers | 17:32 |
| asac | ok tahnks i think i found the prob | 17:34 |
| asac | they send application/json | 17:34 |
| seb128 | it's the server returning the mimetype? | 17:34 |
| asac | not sure why that falls back to application/zip though | 17:34 |
| seb128 | $ grep json /usr/share/mime/* -r | 17:35 |
| seb128 | $ | 17:35 |
| seb128 | asac, not sure either | 17:35 |
| asac | seb128: it was confusing ... without having anything cached its really zip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/236908/ | 17:37 |
| asac | tse | 17:37 |
| seb128 | ok | 17:37 |
| seb128 | so server bog | 17:38 |
| asac | seb128: is there no way to add file extension to .desktop files? | 17:45 |
| seb128 | asac, /usr/share/mime/packages/00-google-gadgets.xml already has that one | 17:51 |
| seb128 | asac, the xdgmime code which is used by gvfs, etc use those infos | 17:52 |
| seb128 | the detection can be done using content magic or filenames | 17:52 |
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| seb128 | the google-gadget definition is only filenames not magic there | 17:52 |
| seb128 | ie you already have the .gg = gadget mapping there | 17:54 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128 - i can trigger this gsd crash here | 18:05 |
| chrisccoulson | all i need to do is unplug my USB headset whilst it is the default sink | 18:05 |
| boredandblogging | kenvandine: ping | 18:07 |
| kenvandine | boredandblogging, pong | 18:08 |
| chrisccoulson | anyone know how i can listen on a raw /dev/input device to see if any events are there? (I'm trying to debug why the volume buttons on my USB headset don't work anymore) | 18:59 |
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| maxb | Does anyone fancy "bzr upgrade"-ing lp:~ubuntu-desktop/notification-daemon/ubuntu to at least --pack-0.92 ? | 19:33 |
| maxb | mvo: It looks like when you did the latest upload you didn't use bzr - just an oversight? | 19:37 |
| asac | seiflotfy1: but does gnome_vfs use that too? | 20:32 |
| asac | (you said gvfs) | 20:33 |
| asac | seb not here | 20:33 |
| seiflotfy1 | uhm? | 20:33 |
| asac | seiflotfy1: sorry. auto completion error ;) | 20:33 |
| seb128 | mvo, hey | 20:54 |
| crevette | bratsche, one question about gtk+ and windows, do you know if someone has build latest unstable version for win32? I would like to test if csw has no side-effect. | 21:04 |
| crevette | (hello) | 21:04 |
| crevette | :) | 21:04 |
| bratsche | It most definitely still has side-effects. | 21:04 |
| seb128 | csw already has quite some breakage effect on linux | 21:10 |
| seb128 | would be nice to get those fixed before 2.28 ;-) | 21:10 |
| mvo | hey seb128 | 21:14 |
| seb128 | mvo, hi, what was the issue with libgksu? | 21:14 |
| mvo | seb128: it seems like the workaround for gtkedit -> gtkentry broke it | 21:14 |
| mvo | seb128: hopefully with the update the crashes go away again | 21:15 |
| seb128 | mvo, broke it in which way? | 21:15 |
| seb128 | mvo, sorry the changelog entry was not clear | 21:15 |
| seb128 | mvo, some context, we get a zillion crashers recently looking similar to memory corruptions somewhere, should I still keep that on my to investigate list of issues? | 21:16 |
| crevette | seb128, yeah I know this is a bit broken on linux, but as I use windows most of my day, I thought I woul be helpful (perhaps) if I could test it on my work station. | 21:17 |
| crevette | s/linux/X/ | 21:17 |
| mvo | seb128: I'm not sure, but it seems some of the crashes we got recently are releated to it, I got a mail from a contributor who debugged it | 21:17 |
| mvo | seb128: it does not hurt to rmeove the workaround, gtk+ is fixed | 21:17 |
| seb128 | mvo, can you give me some details, it seems weird that this change is due to it but I'm interest to understand the issue | 21:17 |
| seb128 | mvo, right, I'm just curious to know why that should trigger corruption | 21:18 |
| seb128 | mvo, that can wait tomorrow no hurry | 21:18 |
| seb128 | or next week | 21:18 |
| seb128 | I'm simply curious ;-) | 21:18 |
| mvo | yeah, I have no more details :/ just the assertion from a user debugging it (and my check that gtk+ is now fixed so that its no longer required) | 21:19 |
| seb128 | mvo, and can I close the zillion g_malloc crash bugs for sure? | 21:19 |
| seb128 | mvo, can you copy me what the guy said? | 21:19 |
| mvo | seb128: lets wait a little bit with that :) and see if it really makes a difference | 21:19 |
| mvo | seb128: sure, I can forward you the mail | 21:19 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, did you figure something for the evolution-indicator issue? | 21:54 |
| kenvandine | sort of... i proposed a branch for ted | 21:54 |
| seb128 | that was not an evolution issue? | 21:54 |
| kenvandine | i don't think so | 21:55 |
| seb128 | ok | 21:55 |
| kenvandine | so there is a new header which gets included in one of the headers they use | 21:55 |
| kenvandine | which now includes it.. and other plugins seem to actually find the path for that | 21:55 |
| kenvandine | it was all triggered by some re-org in evo, preparing for webkit | 21:56 |
| kenvandine | i think | 21:56 |
| seb128 | ok | 21:56 |
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| fta | why is this popup bugging me all the time about low disk space in "Filesystem root" why i still have plenty left? | 23:16 |
| fta | it says 245.0 MB left | 23:16 |
| fta | Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on | 23:16 |
| fta | /dev/sda1 301677772 297032608 4445164 99% / | 23:16 |
| fta | that's 4.3G left | 23:17 |
| asac | math error ;) | 23:18 |
| chrisccoulson | fta - the low disk space warning should only pop up if the free space is less than 5% AND less than 2GB (by default. Those thresholds are configurable though) | 23:39 |
| chrisccoulson | but you can disable further warnings if you choose to run your disk full;) | 23:40 |
| chrisccoulson | that feature was requested by a few people here | 23:40 |
| fta | chrisccoulson, it keeps saying 1G, 500MB, 200MB, whatever, but when i look, i always have between 20GB and 4GB left | 23:41 |
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| chrisccoulson | hmmm, thats wierd. all the check does is a statvfs and then works out the available space by multiplying the number of blocks by the block size | 23:43 |
| chrisccoulson | fta - i can't trigger the issue here | 23:49 |
| fta | chrisccoulson, i don't know what to tell you, i get that popup like 10 times a day | 23:50 |
| fta | chrisccoulson, btw, about my xchat / tray issue, it's gone since i added a wrapper around xchat :P | 23:51 |
| chrisccoulson | that's good. i'm still not sure what the issue is with that | 23:52 |
| chrisccoulson | fta - does the disk space warning pop up multiple times in the same session? and does it report that the disk space is lower each time? | 23:54 |
| chrisccoulson | (you shouldn't see multiple warnings unless the space is continually decreasing) | 23:54 |
| asac_ | i have anothe rbug. i always get this "your Lenovo battery might explode" notification on each login | 23:55 |
| asac_ | and it doesnt honor my decision to not display it again ;) | 23:55 |
| chrisccoulson | asac_ - i'm not sure about that one. that's displayed by g-p-m i think, and it used to get the info from HAL | 23:55 |
| chrisccoulson | i'm not sure where it gets the info from now | 23:56 |
| asac_ | chrisccoulson: how did hal know about a "recall" ? | 23:56 |
| asac_ | i would think it must be high level like HTTP ;) | 23:57 |
| chrisccoulson | asac_ - it was shipped in hal-info. There were some rules to add a recall key to batteries known to be recalled by the manuafacturer | 23:57 |
| asac_ | hmm | 23:57 |
| asac_ | maybe i should be worried ;) | 23:57 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, i'm not sure. i don't know where that info comes from now in the devicekit world | 23:58 |
| TheMuso | gnome-power-manager has moved to DeviceKitPower afaik | 23:58 |
| TheMuso | that could be something to do with it. | 23:58 |
| asac_ | yeah sounds likely its a bug | 23:59 |
| asac_ | because of transition | 23:59 |
| TheMuso | yep | 23:59 |
| asac_ | but its also another bug that it doesnt remember my choice to not show again ;) | 23:59 |
| TheMuso | yeah that too. | 23:59 |
| asac_ | i guess i will file a bug next time i log in ;) | 23:59 |
| johanbr | if your laptop doesn't explode before then :) | 23:59 |
| chrisccoulson | asac_ i've seen another bug today against g-p-m for not remembering settings | 23:59 |
| chrisccoulson | could be related | 23:59 |
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