| rhinokitty | anyone know how to uninstall ubuntuone? | 00:35 |
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| tcole | the easiest way is probably just to uninstall the ubuntuone-client package | 00:39 |
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| dobey | tcole: or python-ubuntuone-storageprotocol | 01:09 |
| dobey | and now, genesis games, amish lemonade, and food | 01:09 |
| rhinokitty | Thanks tcole, that did it! | 01:41 |
| curiouscat | hello! Anyone here? | 03:31 |
| curiouscat | need help with ubuntuone. can't seem to log on anymore. "Cannot Authenticate" | 03:33 |
| curiouscat | tried removing the password from the keyring, but it won't re-authenticate. :( | 03:34 |
| curiouscat | hello! | 03:37 |
| curiouscat | need help with ubuntuone. can't seem to log on anymore. "Cannot Authenticate" | 03:37 |
| curiouscat | tried removing the password from the keyring, but it won't re-authenticate. :( | 03:37 |
| curiouscat | i've been looking for solutions on the net, one is to use u1sync | 03:38 |
| jamesh | curiouscat: perhaps try killing the client after removing the authentication token from the keyring? | 03:38 |
| curiouscat | But it couldn't find the command, and i don't know from where to install this thing. | 03:38 |
| curiouscat | jamesh: did that already. Didn't work. | 03:38 |
| curiouscat | rebooted even. No love. : | 03:39 |
| curiouscat | :( | 03:39 |
| jamesh | so, if you make sure ubuntuone-client-applet is not running, and then run "ubuntuone-client-applet --signup" on the command line, what happens? | 03:43 |
| jamesh | (this is assuming that the token doesn't show up under the passwords tab of Applications -> Accessories -> Passwords and Encryption Keys) | 03:44 |
| curiouscat | tried that. it just starts the applet without going to the webpage for adding a new computer | 03:45 |
| jamesh | does going through that process help? | 03:45 |
| curiouscat | even removed the computer from UbuntuOne account as well. Then tried the whole quit-applet-run-signup thing all over again. Still nothing | 03:45 |
| curiouscat | Can't understand why it doesn't recognize that the password is not longer in the keyring and that the computer is no longer associated. :( | 03:46 |
| curiouscat | removing the computer doesn't ask me to reassign it after the signup, btw. | 03:47 |
| curiouscat | the weird thing is the authentication problem is only on one laptop. I have another that has ubuntuone installed and it connects to my account just fine. | 03:48 |
| curiouscat | unfortunately, that laptop has to be returned in a few days. :( | 03:48 |
| jamesh | the data in the keyring is what gets used to decide whether to authenticate. Let me try some things | 03:50 |
| curiouscat | ok | 03:50 |
| curiouscat | will just be waiting here. :) | 03:51 |
| jamesh | so, I killed ubuntuone-client-applet and ubuntuone-syncdaemon, then deleted the token in the keyring | 03:56 |
| jamesh | ran "ubuntuone-client-applet --signup" and it went through the authorisation process | 03:57 |
| jamesh | (I had to tell it to add my computer again) | 03:58 |
| curiouscat | hmm. ok. i didn't kill the daemon. Maybe that's the clincher. Let me try | 03:59 |
| curiouscat | ok. no daemon or applet running | 03:59 |
| jamesh | If I only kill the applet, it doesn't seem to start the reauthentication process. | 04:00 |
| curiouscat | <sigh> it didn't go through the signup process | 04:00 |
| curiouscat | hmm, that's strange. | 04:01 |
| jamesh | maybe try right clicking on the applet and pick connect if it doesn't do so automatically | 04:01 |
| curiouscat | it just generates an unhandled error when i try to connect | 04:02 |
| curiouscat | exceptions.AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'key' | 04:03 |
| jamesh | Could you provide the full traceback here? http://paste.ubuntu.com/ | 04:04 |
| curiouscat | http://paste.ubuntu.com/236298/ | 04:05 |
| jamesh | that's bizarre | 04:09 |
| curiouscat | i know! | 04:09 |
| curiouscat | thinking if i should try removing then reinstalling the app. you think that would work? | 04:10 |
| jamesh | if I'm reading that right, it is failing to acquire the initial OAuth request token (a session identifier used for the authentication process | 04:10 |
| curiouscat | oh. So... a reinstall won't cut it? :( | 04:11 |
| jamesh | well, if you want to try that, note that ubuntuone stores some data under ~/.cache/ubuntuone-storage | 04:25 |
| jamesh | perhaps it'd be worth clearing that after killing the client+daemon | 04:25 |
| curiouscat | ah! ok. | 04:37 |
| curiouscat | <sigh> still giving me the same error. | 04:47 |
| curiouscat | :( | 04:47 |
| jamesh | I'm not quite sure what to suggest. Could you file a bug report about this? | 04:51 |
| jamesh | describe the symptoms, and perhaps attach some of the logs from ~/.cache/ubuntuone/ | 04:52 |
| jamesh | (assuming they don't have anything private in them) | 04:52 |
| curiouscat | okidoki. | 04:52 |
| curiouscat | hmm. i think i found the problem. | 05:00 |
| curiouscat | well, not sure actually. | 05:00 |
| curiouscat | saw this on the oath log, but I'm not really sure what this means: 2009-07-29 23:46:48,594:594.978094101 UbuntuOne.OAuthDesktop.auth Token was not successfully retrieved: data was 'Expired timestamp: given 1248882405 and now 1248925646 has a greater difference than threshold 300' | 05:00 |
| statik | curiouscat, your local time on your PC may be wrong | 05:03 |
| statik | although our threshold might be set a bit too low | 05:03 |
| curiouscat | statik: prior to the problem, my laptop's time had reset to 2005. noticed it. Reset back to current date. Then this problem started. | 05:05 |
| statik | we had a bug report earlier where someones clock was about 5 hours off and they were getting this problem setting up the initial token | 05:06 |
| statik | haven't looked at it closely yet, but adjusting the clock got past it | 05:06 |
| curiouscat | hmm. i set the time manually for this laptop. i'll try setting the preferences to get it from the time server instead. | 05:07 |
| curiouscat | i'll be back. Will restart laptop to see what happens. | 05:13 |
| curiouscat | FINALLY! It works! | 05:18 |
| curiouscat | Dang time thing. :P | 05:18 |
| curiouscat | Thanks so much guys! | 05:18 |
| curiouscat | jamesh: Thanks for showing me the ubuntuone logs. If it hadn't been for that, I wouldn't have known there was a log for the OATH. :) | 05:20 |
| jamesh | what did you have to do to fix it? | 05:20 |
| curiouscat | statik: Thanks for pointing out that bug report about time vs authentication problem | 05:21 |
| jamesh | ah. | 05:21 |
| statik | np. i hope we can find a way to prevent this, and make the solution more obvious when it happens | 05:21 |
| curiouscat | jamesh: I made sure that my laptop's time is synched via an NTP server instead. | 05:22 |
| curiouscat | jamesh: restarted the laptop so that it would start pulling the time from the server. That's when UbuntuOne finally opened the site to re-authenticate the computer. | 05:22 |
| curiouscat | statik: I hope so too. Will be blogging about this in a bit. :) | 05:23 |
| jamesh | given the server sends the date back in HTTP responses, we could potentially detect these issues. | 05:24 |
| jamesh | but given we're using PLAINTEXT signatures (since the data is going over SSL anyway), a bad nonce timestamp isn't the end of the world | 05:25 |
| jamesh | the nonces only add security for the HMAC-SHA1 signature method | 05:25 |
| curiouscat | I never even thought the time would be a problem actually. I had corrected the time earlier (manually) when I couldn't login to GMail. | 05:28 |
| curiouscat | So I figured, if GMail finally recognized I have the correct time, then all my other apps should be able to login as well. :P | 05:29 |
| jamesh | there are lots of authentication protocols that depend on synchronised clocks | 05:29 |
| jamesh | although ours probably shouldn't need to care. | 05:29 |
| curiouscat | never knew that UbuntuOne would be a stickler for exact server time. LOL! | 05:30 |
| jamesh | well, exact to within 5 minutes | 05:32 |
| tcole | a number of authentication schemes depend on relatively synchronized clocks, including ours | 05:33 |
| curiouscat | strangely, it was telling me that it was off by 30minutes. | 05:34 |
| statik | jamesh, btw did you get a chance to look at the oauth 1.0a vulnerability with 3-legged oauth? i think we are vulnerable, but haven't been able to figure out what we need to change to comply with the new spec | 05:34 |
| statik | er, the vulnerability that prompted the release of the 1.0a spec i mean | 05:35 |
| jamesh | just looking through the specification diff. It probably would affect us. | 05:43 |
| jamesh | the oauth_verifier stuff looks like it'd work for our current setup. | 05:48 |
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| CardinalFang | aquarius, Hi. I'm trying to delete couchdb views using couchdb-python . The "design" module doesn't provide a direct way, AFAICT. Can I do it with the "client" module, like any other document? | 13:24 |
| aquarius | CardinalFang, yeah; design docs are still docs and can be deleted the same way | 13:24 |
| aquarius | (or if you want to delete one view, just rePUT the doc without the view in it) | 13:25 |
| aquarius | how's the temp-view-removal stuff doing? | 13:25 |
| CardinalFang | This the only missing piece. | 13:25 |
| aquarius | wow! nice | 13:25 |
| CardinalFang | So, to remove one view, I must collect all the existing views, delete my target view, and then rePUT? | 13:26 |
| CardinalFang | I saw this way in "design" module, but that makes me cry. | 13:26 |
| CardinalFang | Maybe I haven't drunk enough couchdb Kool-Aid yet, but it seems ugly to download, mutate, and then upload, potentially clobbering something that was updated in the mean time. I've spent enough years debugging race conditions. | 13:33 |
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| jasondavies | CardinalFang: there are no race conditions due to the MVCC versioning stuff | 13:37 |
| jasondavies | CardinalFang: you'll get a conflict error instead of clobbering something, then you just have to try again | 13:37 |
| CardinalFang | That is exactly what I feared. | 13:39 |
| jasondavies | I thought you feared race conditions | 13:45 |
| CardinalFang | Well, I fear designing an ugly API. | 13:47 |
| jasondavies | well, you have to handle multiple people updating the same thing somehow | 13:52 |
| jasondavies | either you let people clobber stuff, or you generate conflicts | 13:52 |
| jasondavies | I agree it's not ideal | 13:52 |
| CardinalFang | It's that all views together are "the same thing" that bothers me. If you and I are both fighting over view "foo" then I agree nothing is good. If I'm updating view "foo" and you add "bar", then it shouldn't affect me. | 13:59 |
| CardinalFang | jasondavies, ^ | 13:59 |
| jasondavies | CardinalFang: good point | 14:00 |
| * CardinalFang considers different design documents per view. | 14:00 | |
| jasondavies | that is a possibility | 14:01 |
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| aquarius | blimey, 3pm, standup time | 15:04 |
| vds | aquarius: yep | 15:04 |
| aquarius | MEETING BEGINS: say me if you're here :) | 15:04 |
| aquarius | me | 15:04 |
| vds | me | 15:04 |
| CardinalFang | me | 15:04 |
| teknico | me | 15:04 |
| urbanape | me | 15:05 |
| rodrigo_1 | me | 15:05 |
| dobey | me i guess... am here ethereally anyway | 15:05 |
| teknico | aquarius, isn't that a bit too inclusive? ;-) | 15:05 |
| aquarius | teknico, well, if someone else says me then we can ask what they worked on today ;) | 15:05 |
| aquarius | is that everyone? jblount's away today afaik | 15:05 |
| teknico | statik too | 15:06 |
| aquarius | DONE: talk to statik about feature freeze and couch; mark couchdb issues that we need for feature freeze as 0.10 blockers in couch jira; decide on notes schema with vds and rodrigo; help document it on freedesktop; document Bindwood bookmark schema on freedesktop; discuss couchdb upcoming plans and release schedule with couch people; help integrate valid-user-only patch into couchdb | 15:06 |
| aquarius | TODO: talk to arusha and rodrigo about notes web UI; work through bug list | 15:06 |
| aquarius | BLOCKED: none | 15:06 |
| aquarius | vds: speak your piece | 15:06 |
| vds | DONE:finished funambol deployment scripts, discussed with Mark about deployment, with Stuart and Rodrigo about tomboy sync. | 15:06 |
| vds | TODO: land funambol deployment scripts, update the funambol wiki, email funambol support guys | 15:06 |
| vds | BLOCKED: nope | 15:06 |
| vds | CardinalFang: go | 15:06 |
| CardinalFang | DONE: Most of desktopcouch API. | 15:07 |
| CardinalFang | TODO: Finish desktopcouch API. Get reviews of that and of Spawning | 15:07 |
| CardinalFang | BLOCKED: Maybe. Some db/HTTP weirdness in desktopcouch behavior. | 15:07 |
| CardinalFang | vds, O HAI! | 15:07 |
| teknico | DONE: reviews, defined the subscription options for phone syncing | 15:07 |
| teknico | TODO: implement the subscription check when syncing a phone | 15:07 |
| teknico | BLOCKED: none | 15:07 |
| teknico | next: urbanape | 15:07 |
| teknico | CardinalFang, *cough* | 15:07 |
| urbanape | DONE: Submitted a branch for proposal to properly deal with deleting empty folders. | 15:07 |
| urbanape | TODO: Yay, javascript. | 15:07 |
| urbanape | BLOCK: Nada | 15:07 |
| urbanape | rodrigo_1: you're up. | 15:07 |
| rodrigo_1 | • DONE: REST API changes in U1, tomboy and snowy. Started desktopcouch pages in XDG (http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Specifications/desktopcouch). Started discussion on initial config for couchdb-using apps | 15:07 |
| rodrigo_1 | • TODO: land use-source-properties branch. Add more tests in couchdb-glib test suite. More openSUSE packaging. Store UUIDs in VCARD's correctly. Fix notes/ saving and tomboy syncing. Change note record format as per xdg page | 15:07 |
| rodrigo_1 | • BLOCKED: none | 15:07 |
| rodrigo_1 | dobey: go | 15:07 |
| aquarius | rodrigo_1, snowy is done too? winner! | 15:08 |
| dobey | DONE: Fix oauthdesktop to support 1.0a, Fix python-oauth to do 1.0a, | 15:08 |
| dobey | TODO: 1.0a on server side, #378707 | 15:08 |
| dobey | BLCK: None. | 15:08 |
| rodrigo_1 | aquarius: not fully done, in fact I'd need your help, or any other djando's expert help | 15:08 |
| aquarius | rodrigo_1, cool, I can do that | 15:08 |
| dobey | i guess that's all | 15:08 |
| aquarius | cool, anything else, all? | 15:08 |
| aquarius | nope. good | 15:09 |
| aquarius | MEETING ENDS | 15:09 |
| aquarius | quickest standup ever :) | 15:09 |
| aquarius | vds, did you catch my question earlier about whether we need seqnos in trigger data on the desktop? | 15:10 |
| rodrigo_1 | aquarius: so, I need to have the /api/1.0 accessible without auth, but they don't use the nice decorators we use, so not sure what needs changing | 15:11 |
| aquarius | rodrigo_1, ah, ok, I'll take a look. do you have a snowy branch somewhere with your latest changes? | 15:11 |
| rodrigo_1 | aquarius: no, just have a patch for the uris, sending it | 15:12 |
| aquarius | kk | 15:12 |
| facundobatista | Hi all | 15:14 |
| CardinalFang | Howdy! | 15:17 |
| aquarius | hey facundobatista | 15:17 |
| teknico | mmm, I uploaded a file, but the "Sharing" tab is inactive | 16:27 |
| teknico | I managed sharing folders before | 16:27 |
| dobey | teknico: do you have the file selected in the list, or just the folder? | 16:28 |
| teknico | dobey, the file is selected in the web interface | 16:28 |
| teknico | the folder is the "My Files" one | 16:28 |
| teknico | the "Overview" and "Details" tabs work correctly, the "Sharing" one is inactive | 16:29 |
| dobey | teknico: you can't have the file selected | 16:30 |
| djsiegel2 | statik: ping | 16:31 |
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| djsiegel2 | statik: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client/+bug/406938 I heard there was some discussion a few months back about this on the ML. The design team is quite worried about it. | 16:32 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 406938 in ubuntuone-client "Folder heirarchy should prioritize user files, not bury them" [Undecided,New] | 16:32 |
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| teknico | dobey, what do you mean? | 16:32 |
| teknico | if I click on the "My Files" folder, in the "Folders & Shares" left column, the "Sharing" tab on the right is active | 16:34 |
| dobey | teknico: right | 16:34 |
| dobey | teknico: if you click on any of the files in the center list, it will become inactive | 16:34 |
| teknico | (which is strange in itself, since clicking then on the "Share" button does not do anything) | 16:34 |
| dobey | teknico: because you can't share individual files | 16:34 |
| teknico | dobey, that's it, I was fearing it... | 16:35 |
| teknico | dobey, and there's no way to put the file in a folder on the server without reuploading it, right? | 16:35 |
| joshuahoover | djsiegel2: statik is on holiday the rest of this week | 16:36 |
| djsiegel | joshuahoover: ok, I will interrogate him at the distro sprint in dublin :) | 16:36 |
| joshuahoover | djsiegel: perfect! ;) | 16:36 |
| joshuahoover | djsiegel: there is a desire to support syncing folders outside of that dir structure | 16:37 |
| dobey | teknico: i don't know what you mean with that question | 16:37 |
| dobey | djsiegel: yeah, he's flying on monday | 16:37 |
| teknico | dobey, is there any way to share the file I uploaded, without reuploading it? | 16:37 |
| djsiegel | joshuahoover: yeah, that's a slightly different issue I think | 16:38 |
| djsiegel | I am talking about our default config | 16:38 |
| dobey | teknico: you have to share the folder the file is in | 16:38 |
| djsiegel | but I can't wait until I can do: | 16:38 |
| djsiegel | $ echo ".zshrc" >> .ubuntuonerc | 16:38 |
| djsiegel | and have my .zshrc sync everywhere... :) | 16:38 |
| teknico | dobey, the file is directly in the "My Files" folder, which seems sharable at first, but then is not (as I described above) | 16:39 |
| dobey | djsiegel: there are several other bugs about the default directory structure already as well | 16:39 |
| teknico | and I wouldn't want to do that anyway :-) | 16:39 |
| djsiegel | dobey: where are they files? | 16:39 |
| dobey | teknico: there may be a bug, but you shouldn't do that anyway | 16:39 |
| djsiegel | filed* | 16:39 |
| djsiegel | I searched in ubuntuone-client and didn't see them | 16:39 |
| joshuahoover | djsiegel: hmmm...let me see if i can find them here | 16:40 |
| joshuahoover | djsiegel: ok, we don't have it in LP yet as a user story but it is on our backlog...i'll add the story...we've had numerous requests on LP for it (worded in various ways) | 16:41 |
| djsiegel | well, keep my bug, my description is so well worded :) | 16:42 |
| djsiegel | lol | 16:42 |
| joshuahoover | djsiegel: heh...yeah, yours is a bit different (i think)...not going to replace it :) | 16:43 |
| dobey | djsiegel: #396561 #392583 #388986 #386077 #385155 #375486 #375482 #369099 | 16:43 |
| dobey | djsiegel: those are a few of them :) | 16:43 |
| djsiegel | dobey: dayum | 16:43 |
| dobey | djsiegel: yeah, as it turns out, inviting a LOT of linux users to your new service's beta gets you a LOT of bug reports | 16:44 |
| joshuahoover | dobey: heh | 16:44 |
| djsiegel | dobey: should I mark these as dupes? | 16:44 |
| dobey | djsiegel: they probably aren't all dups. and there are a few others that i can't seem to find the numbers for right now either | 16:45 |
| dobey | djsiegel: but it is definitely a plan that we want to support arbitrary folder syncing | 16:45 |
| djsiegel | dobey: right, many of the bugs are about that | 16:46 |
| dobey | yeah | 16:47 |
| dobey | but i think there's one that's pretty descriptive that i can't find right now | 16:47 |
| dobey | which they should probably be marked a dup of (the ones that are fixable with arbitrary folders anyway) | 16:48 |
| joshuahoover | dobey: i'll do that | 16:48 |
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| joshuahoover | dobey: has bug #397027 been fixed (related to the oauth key not getting deleted on removing the client)? | 19:05 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 397027 in ubuntuone-client "Can't register computer after uninstall" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/397027 | 19:05 |
| dobey | joshuahoover: no, and we can't go delete user configuration on uninstall of the package anyway | 19:06 |
| dobey | joshuahoover: i would say it's a duplicate of... let me find the bug | 19:06 |
| joshuahoover | dobey: oh, it seemed like you were saying we could/would do that | 19:07 |
| dobey | gah launchpad needs much better searching, seriously | 19:08 |
| joshuahoover | dobey: yeah, it does | 19:08 |
| dobey | joshuahoover: that should be a dup of bug #363243 | 19:08 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 363243 in ubuntuone-client "No way to re-add a computer to your account" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/363243 | 19:08 |
| joshuahoover | dobey: ok, i'll mark it | 19:09 |
| dobey | i am tempted to just temporarily remove the use of gnome-keyring | 19:15 |
| dobey | so very very tempted | 19:15 |
| JamalFanaian | dobey: i agree on the launchpad's search complaint | 19:34 |
| dobey | heh | 19:35 |
| dobey | i think everyone agrees on that :) | 19:35 |
| JamalFanaian | lol | 19:39 |
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| Xpistos|work | Where can I get a png of the Ubuntu One icon? | 20:13 |
| dobey | Xpistos|work: it's in the source | 20:17 |
| Xpistos|work | dobey: I am a bit of a noob so that is a tad over my head. Where can I download the source? | 20:20 |
| dobey | Xpistos|work: i do presume you mean the ubuntu logo inside the clouds? | 20:21 |
| Xpistos|work | correct. | 20:21 |
| Xpistos|work | dobey: Yes | 20:21 |
| dobey | Xpistos|work: http://launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client/+download | 20:21 |
| Xpistos|work | dobey: Thank you. That is what I needed | 20:25 |
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