| === sadmac_ is now known as sadmac2 | ||
| === harald is now known as haraldh | ||
| _|ms|_ | good evening :D | 18:42 |
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| _|ms|_ | anybody available for a short question about the *.conf files? | 18:43 |
| _|ms|_ | esp. tty | 18:43 |
| sadmac | I'm here-ish | 18:47 |
| _|ms|_ | hi sadmac2 | 18:47 |
| _|ms|_ | oops :D | 18:47 |
| _|ms|_ | -2 :D | 18:47 |
| _|ms|_ | well it's because of my ttys | 18:48 |
| _|ms|_ | I would like them to start AFTER all other services started | 18:48 |
| _|ms|_ | but there is no: start on started startup, right? | 18:48 |
| _|ms|_ | I had a png file with the patches but don't find it again :D | 18:49 |
| sadmac | _|ms|_: no. There's no real way to do that (to an extend there's no reason to do that. To another extent we're designing 0.10 to address that sort of problem.) | 18:49 |
| _|ms|_ | well... the need is: it looks much better :D | 18:50 |
| _|ms|_ | if you are logging in and there are some processes starting up and show their output... it's not pretty :D | 18:50 |
| sadmac | you should be logging that. don't do it on the same tty | 18:51 |
| _|ms|_ | why not? shouldn't the user get what's happening?! | 18:52 |
| sadmac | _|ms|_: its happening too fast to read anyway :) and I don't know who your users are, but mine don't typically care | 18:53 |
| sadmac | (I package for Fedora) | 18:53 |
| sadmac | Only time the user cares about that noise is if something breaks. | 18:53 |
| _|ms|_ | hmm, you are right :D | 18:54 |
| _|ms|_ | but I like that lines :D | 18:54 |
| _|ms|_ | hmm another idea how to beautify the boot process? | 18:56 |
| sadmac | _|ms|_: hlh booted on a netbook in 5 seconds at last LPC. | 18:56 |
| sadmac | _|ms|_: don't beautify it. Make it so fast the user isn't aware it happened. | 18:56 |
| _|ms|_ | hlh? | 18:57 |
| sadmac | _|ms|_: actually not hlh | 18:57 |
| sadmac | _|ms|_: Arjan Van De Ven | 18:57 |
| _|ms|_ | it is a person^ | 18:57 |
| sadmac | kernel guy for Intel | 18:57 |
| sadmac | yes | 18:57 |
| sadmac | he did it with Fedora and with another distro (I want to say SUSE) | 18:57 |
| _|ms|_ | most of my systems have a lot of networking to start (this will always take a lot of time) | 18:58 |
| _|ms|_ | don't say suse :D | 18:58 |
| _|ms|_ | well, you're an employee of redhat?! | 18:58 |
| sadmac | _|ms|_: the user could be doing useful work in that time. why make them wait on the network coming up? | 18:58 |
| sadmac | _|ms|_: Yes, but not in a development capacity. Upstart/Fedora are on my own time. | 18:59 |
| _|ms|_ | it's a firewall :D | 18:59 |
| sadmac | ...then why does it have users at all? :) | 18:59 |
| _|ms|_ | oh... but U dunno when there is a kernel 2.6.30 for fedora?! :D | 18:59 |
| _|ms|_ | hmm, there is me working on console :D | 18:59 |
| _|ms|_ | work is much easier if it is coloured :D | 19:00 |
| sadmac | _|ms|_: looks like we skipped .30 and went straight to the .31-rc*s | 19:01 |
| sadmac | http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=8 | 19:01 |
| sadmac | ^^no promises that any of those work with F11 (or at all :) | 19:01 |
| _|ms|_ | I don't expect a new kernel for f11 | 19:01 |
| _|ms|_ | but I need a wifi module for my netbook :D | 19:01 |
| _|ms|_ | it's not fun having a netbook without wireless | 19:02 |
| sadmac | well you can try the rawhide kernel then | 19:02 |
| sadmac | or build your own. The config is saved in /boot | 19:02 |
| sadmac | you'll want to edit to turn your driver on of course | 19:02 |
| _|ms|_ | the module is in staging in 2.6.29, but have you ever extracted a fedora kernel srpm, changed the config and tried to build it?! | 19:03 |
| _|ms|_ | doesn't work | 19:03 |
| sadmac | Not by that exact process but I've rebuilt kernels. | 19:04 |
| _|ms|_ | I will try this later again :D rawhide seems to be a good idea... | 19:04 |
| _|ms|_ | would you like to review my upstart scripts?! http://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire-3.x.git;a=tree;f=src/initscripts;h=7526a01c3abc85996d9a19811a4c7a637db9f5a2;hb=HEAD | 19:04 |
| _|ms|_ | you changed my thinking about the boot process in the last few minutes :D | 19:05 |
| sadmac | lemme get back to work. maybe when I get home :) | 19:05 |
| _|ms|_ | okay :D | 19:05 |
| _|ms|_ | tell me why i screwed this up^ | 19:06 |
| sadmac | heh | 19:07 |
| === robbiew is now known as robbiew-afk | ||
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