[09:30] <mac_v> !hi | SiDi 
[09:30] <ubot4> SiDi: Hi! Welcome to #ayatana!
[09:31] <SiDi> hi ubot4 
[09:31] <SiDi> huhuhuh :D
[09:32] <mac_v> SiDi: hehe... i told the ops SiDi missed ubottu , so they gave us a spare bot ;p
[09:32] <SiDi> yay thats great
[17:01] <davidsiegel> Hey, if anyone is interested in participating in a user testing initiative for Ubuntu, please check this out: http://davidsiegel.org/distributed-user-testing-archives/
[17:01] <davidsiegel> DanRabbit lamalex MDC2 mrooney|w mccann ^
[17:04] <DanRabbit> davidsiegel: double click should extract
[17:04] <davidsiegel> DanRabbit: shhh
[17:04] <davidsiegel> DanRabbit: :)
[17:04] <DanRabbit> I'm too outspoken :D
[17:04] <davidsiegel> we're just looking for data
[17:04] <DanRabbit> I'll test when I get home :)
[17:04] <davidsiegel> awesome man
[17:05] <DanRabbit> I'm moving this weekend though, so we'll see what happens.
[17:05] <davidsiegel> no problemo
[17:05]  * DanRabbit whispers btw, yesterday was my birthday
[17:05] <davidsiegel> DanRabbit: happy birthday!
[17:05] <DanRabbit> why thankyou 
[17:06] <DanRabbit> BUt, I have to get the new keys :D
[17:06] <DanRabbit> see ya later
[18:41] <mac_v> djsiegel1: ping?
[18:41] <djsiegel1> hey mac_v
[18:42] <mac_v> hi... check out my latest screenshot of kwwii's ppa , bug 405426
[18:42] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 405426 in human-gtk-theme "Remove application icons from title bars" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/405426
[18:42] <mac_v> djsiegel1: ^
[18:46]  * djsiegel1 checks
[18:47] <djsiegel1> mac_v: ok
[18:48] <mac_v> djsiegel1: you notice the problem i was mentioning?
[18:48] <djsiegel1> mac_v: yes
[18:48] <djsiegel1> I never claimed that removing the icons makes the windows easier to identify, or just as easy to identify
[18:48] <djsiegel1> I agree that it makes them less easy to identify
[18:48] <djsiegel1> it just fixes an aesthetic problem with the human theme
[18:49] <djsiegel1> If your windows are stacked to the right, you would still have that same problem today
[18:49] <mac_v> ;p
[18:49] <mac_v> djsiegel1: how about using Dust Sand for the default?
[18:50] <mac_v> kwwii would kill me ;p
[18:50] <djsiegel1> not going to happen
[18:50] <mac_v> hehe... maybe kwwii would come up with what he is working on ,something awesome he says
[18:51] <mac_v> for karmic+1
[18:55] <mac_v> BTW windows dont stack to the right , the default is they stack from left to right
[19:59] <djsiegel1> DanRabbit: hey
[20:06]  * gus__ is having a hard time trying to modify notify-osd so it displays the notifications on the bottom left
[20:39] <mrooney|w> djsiegel1: yeah, I should do that test on my girlfriend who is a mac user
[20:39] <mrooney|w> I tried screenjelly but it doesn't...seem to do anything?
[20:39] <djsiegel1> mrooney|w: please do
[20:39] <djsiegel1> mrooney|w: you need java
[20:39] <mrooney|w> yeah I installed that and the message saying that went away, but clicking the red button still does nothing
[20:40] <mrooney|w> I can still use gtkrecordmydesktop, that works nicely
[20:40]  * SiDi waves at mrooney|w 
[20:40] <mrooney|w> hi!
[20:41] <SiDi> you forgot to mention launchpad also provides ninjas in your last blog post ;P
[20:50] <mrooney|w> ninjas!
[20:50] <SiDi> btw, did you code a little on wxbanker lately ?
[20:51] <mrooney|w> indeed I have been working on it the past few weeks, why?
[20:51] <SiDi> Cause the PPA didnt have any new deb for a while
[20:51] <SiDi> and thus i didnt think about checking my bank account for a while
[20:52] <mrooney|w> hahaha
[20:52] <mrooney|w> I never thought about people using it like that
[20:52] <mrooney|w> oh by the way I have #wxbanker now :)
[20:53] <SiDi> i actually check the amount on the bank account, but i dont go into details with the bank's website, cause its ugly to use :P
[21:48] <djsiegel1> beuno: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ronnietucker/3776139572/in/pool-556923@N24/?addedcomment=1#comment72157621906749846
[21:48] <djsiegel1> kwwii: ^
[21:49] <djsiegel1> clear winner
[21:49] <beuno> djsiegel1, hi
[21:49] <beuno> looking
[21:50] <beuno> using gimp
[21:50] <beuno> awesome
[23:08] <DanRabbit> djsiegel1: pong
[23:21] <djsiegel1> hey DanRabbit
[23:21] <DanRabbit> what's up?
[23:25]  * SiDi found out why the font was looking so damn little in notify-osd !
[23:25] <SiDi> It was defaulting to 72 DPI (instead of 95) because i dont have the DPI gconf key set :P
[23:26] <djsiegel1> SiDi: is that a general bug for most people?
[23:27] <yoasif> djsiegel1, it might be, how do i check?
[23:27] <yoasif> i have tiny text in my notfications 
[23:27] <djsiegel1> yoasif: talk to SiDi
[23:27] <djsiegel1> he can tell you about the DPI gconf setting
[23:27] <djsiegel1> if it's defaulting to something small because the key is not set, it's a bug
[23:27] <yoasif> SiDi dpi gconf for notify? :)
[23:29] <mrooney|w> oh yeah I noticed that too, notify-osd text is very small in Karmic haha
[23:30] <SiDi> djsiegel1: anyone not on GNOME has a 72 DPI
[23:30] <SiDi> we default to 96 in xubuntu, so i think 72 may be a bit tiny for some screens
[23:30] <djsiegel1> anyone not on GNOME has 72 DPI in notify-osd?
[23:30] <SiDi> yeh, there is a gconf key for your DPI value, yoasif 
[23:30] <djsiegel1> what about on GNOME?
[23:31] <djsiegel1> SiDi: is it set by default?
[23:31] <SiDi> djsiegel1: then it'll use the DPI value if it exists
[23:31] <yoasif> SiDi, how can i check to see if it is set?
[23:31] <djsiegel1> I noticed that the text is small too
[23:31] <SiDi> otherwise it fallbacks to 72
[23:31] <djsiegel1> SiDi: I am wondering if it's falling back on default install
[23:31] <SiDi> well, Mirco used to use a bigger font size, and he switch to a more little one, so there's that too