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| Riddell | asac: where can I find the licencing information on the firefox icon? | 00:46 |
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| DGMurdockIII | hi | 05:54 |
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| TheMuso | c/c | 07:06 |
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| slytherin | Any of the archive admins free enough to review jakarta-jmeter from new queue? | 08:47 |
| seb128 | slytherin, any reason it's urgent? | 08:50 |
| seb128 | slytherin, that's the second time you ask on IRC, any reason it should hijack things waiting for longer in the queue? | 08:51 |
| slytherin | No. Nothing in particular. Sorry. | 08:51 |
| seb128 | ok, so no need to ping people for regular tasks, they are done often enough usually | 08:52 |
| seb128 | and no need to be sorry that's ok, that's just that people know about those and if they don't do it that's because they are busy or on holidays, etc | 08:53 |
| slytherin | Ok. | 08:54 |
| directhex | <meebey> Subject: mono_2.4.2.3+dfsg-1_i386.changes is NEW | 09:03 |
| seb128 | directhex, cool! | 09:04 |
| directhex | seb128, includes a few little patches too, which ought to allow some more interesting things to run (e.g. ironruby). also includes the fixes to stop needless libmono0 inclusion on the CDs | 09:05 |
| seb128 | directhex, are you going to prepare an upload for karmic? ;-) | 09:06 |
| directhex | seb128, i don't think binary NEW is too slow at the moment in debian, so i'd rather wait & sync (saves a layer of archive admin time, if anything, getting ftpmaster to check instead). i have a month before i need to do that icky FFe paperwork anyway | 09:07 |
| seb128 | ok | 09:07 |
| dmentre | Hello. Could a core developer look at bug 406351 and bug 406434? Simple synchronizations are needed. These packages are blocking the remaining of the OCaml transition. Thanks! | 09:08 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 406351 in ocaml-batteries "[3.11.1 transition][round 5/6] Please synchronize following packages from Debian sid in Karmic" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/406351 | 09:08 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 406434 in ocaml-libvirt "[3.11.1 transition][round 5/6] Please synchronize source package ocaml-libvirt from Debian sid in Karmic" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/406434 | 09:08 |
| directhex | dmentre, you scared seb128 away | 09:10 |
| asac | Riddell: what do you want to know wrt licensing? | 09:52 |
| Riddell | asac: what is the licence and are you allowed to make derivative works | 10:08 |
| Riddell | asac: a package included a derived icon and I don't know if that's allowed | 10:08 |
| asac | Riddell: its proprietary. you are not allowed to change it | 10:08 |
| Riddell | asac: that probably makes most of these illegal doesn't it? http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=firefox.png&mode=exactfilename&suite=karmic&arch=any | 10:11 |
| pitti | Good moring | 10:43 |
| pitti | mvo: yay you! | 10:44 |
| pitti | dpm: will try (I'm officially off sick, but I think I can do an hour or two) | 10:44 |
| dpm | pitti: hey, good morning. Thanks a lot, but don't worry about it! I'll just poke you once you're healthy again, don't do it if you're not feeling well | 10:47 |
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| tkamppeter | pitti: Should bug 372118 get SRUed? | 10:53 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 372118 in cups "CUPS does not work with Firefox, HTTPS bug (Hardy LTS)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/372118 | 10:53 |
| dmentre | directhex: (about scaring seb128 away) nope! ;-) | 10:56 |
| TheMuso | .deb | 10:56 |
| TheMuso | woops | 10:56 |
| pitti | tkamppeter: I'm fine with getting this SRUed; want to prepare an update? | 11:00 |
| * pitti crawls back to bed, cu next week | 11:01 | |
| dpm | pitti: see you next week, get well soon! | 11:03 |
| pitti | thanks! | 11:03 |
| tkamppeter | pitti, will you be on the sprint? | 11:10 |
| dvh | Hi, can somebody explain why Hugin depends on autopano-shift instead of autopano-shift-c? Why do I need 50MB of redundant C# libraries only because of this? Thanks | 11:22 |
| gaspa | dvh: i recall a bug about that, but not sure. | 11:22 |
| gaspa | dvh: uhm. can't find any package with that name... | 11:29 |
| dvh | hold on | 11:31 |
| dvh | autopano-sift-c 2.5.0-0.0 | 11:32 |
| dvh | so it's sift, not shift | 11:32 |
| ion | There seems to be no autopano-sift-c in Ubuntu repositories. (Which is a shame.) | 11:35 |
| gaspa | seems it needs to be packages. | 11:36 |
| gaspa | *packaged | 11:37 |
| gaspa | dvh: you could request it by filing a bug in launchpad. (or package it by yourself. :P) | 11:37 |
| gaspa | ah, found: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hugin/+bug/323836 | 11:39 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 323836 in hugin "[needs packaging] Package and use autopano-sift-c" [Wishlist,New] | 11:39 |
| Tronic | Could someone handle this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/performous/+bug/406866 | 11:40 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 406866 in performous "request sync performous from unstable" [Undecided,New] | 11:40 |
| cjwatson | pam: nothing other than the documentation in the gfxboot package itself | 12:10 |
| cjwatson | pam: I think for editing arrays in ways other than just changing a single element in-place, it's usually easiest to effectively define a new array with the contents you want | 12:11 |
| cjwatson | maxb: I've added you to the manual accept filter on ubuntu-devel@ | 12:15 |
| cjwatson | ebroder: there's a Debian paper on how the installer works linked from http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installer/Development, which may be useful for orientation. (In this case the component you're looking for is grub-installer.) | 12:18 |
| cjwatson | lool: usplash> really? it didn't actually change very much ... | 12:21 |
| lool | cjwatson: I don't understand why your change triggers the crashes because I didn't understand where xres / yres are set in a regular boot (I think they are set from /proc/cmdline but I don't see why these would be set on end-users' boxes) | 13:00 |
| lool | cjwatson: But we only received reports from the karmic version, not the jaunty one | 13:00 |
| lool | cjwatson: In all cases your change is correct; it's just unfortunate that it shows that our theme and usplash are buggy | 13:01 |
| lool | cjwatson: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/401432 | 13:01 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 401432 in usplash-theme-ubuntu "usplash crashed with SIGSEGV in memset_var()" [Medium,In progress] | 13:01 |
| lool | I started adding bound checking to some usplash code pathes but I'm not happy with the changes and I find it painful to debug (assert() leave the console broked and printf are a bit manual) | 13:02 |
| lool | Also ubuntu-vm-builder is broken so I couldn't create vms for easy testing of various resolutions | 13:02 |
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| cjwatson | lool: xres/yres are in usplash.conf and sucked out of X in the postinst | 13:27 |
| Riddell | james_w, slangasek: what's the status of bug 400102? it looks like it was waiting on a patch being tested but now that patch has been tested | 14:02 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 400102 in libaqbanking "Please sync libaqbanking 4.1.0-2 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)." [Unknown,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/400102 | 14:02 |
| evand | pitti: thanks for the review on pywebkitgtk | 14:07 |
| james_w | Riddell: I haven't looked at it recently | 14:10 |
| james_w | Riddell: but it seems to me that if it needs a patch then it's not a sync? | 14:12 |
| Riddell | james_w: the patch is for qbankmanager which is an rdepends (presumably) | 14:14 |
| james_w | ah, then I misunderstood | 14:14 |
| Riddell | oh, no it's not | 14:14 |
| Riddell | you're right james_w it's a patch to libaqbanking | 14:14 |
| seb128 | does anybody has an idea what component to blame on #407209? | 14:48 |
| seb128 | does anybody has an idea what component to blame on #407209? | 14:48 |
| seb128 | ups | 14:49 |
| seb128 | bug #407209 | 14:49 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 407209 in update-manager "Reboot after update results in "running in low-graphics mode"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/407209 | 14:49 |
| seb128 | basically psb driver error after jaunty linux upgrade | 14:49 |
| seb128 | seems bug #406651 | 14:51 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 406651 in xserver-xorg-video-psb "2.6.28-14 kills PSB driver on Dell Mini 10 & Acer One 751h" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/406651 | 14:51 |
| seb128 | ^ that's a breakage due to a stable update, anything which should be done to mark those? | 14:56 |
| tseliot | seb128: psb is not officially supported on Jaunty. Those users installed it from a PPA. Maybe DKMS didn't rebuild the kernel module against the new kernel | 15:07 |
| seb128 | tseliot, ok thanks | 15:07 |
| slytherin | We should ask users about dkms log instead and check if it failed to build. | 15:08 |
| tseliot | cjwatson: what's the proper way to add kernel parameters to the kopt line of GRUB's menu.lst in the installer? | 15:09 |
| tseliot | seb128: np | 15:09 |
| tseliot | slytherin: right | 15:09 |
| seb128 | mvo, what is the canonical source for SimpleGtkbuilderApp? | 15:12 |
| pam | cjwatson: thanks, I actually sort of found a working solution (but the implementation is suboptimal so far). | 15:14 |
| cjwatson | tseliot: boot the installer with those extra parameters after the "--" | 15:15 |
| garymc | Yo Hi I need some help | 15:15 |
| garymc | Ive got a Dedicated server with fasthosts | 15:15 |
| garymc | I need to get my Mysql databse copied to my computer how di I do it | 15:15 |
| garymc | I know its running ubuntu | 15:15 |
| garymc | cos i aint used it for a while ive lost and forgot the commands to use in putty | 15:16 |
| tseliot | cjwatson: I would like those parameters to be permanently set in the installed system. Would modifying the boot entries in the installer do that too? | 15:18 |
| * tseliot admits that his question could have been a bit clearer | 15:18 | |
| cjwatson | tseliot: yes | 15:23 |
| tseliot | cjwatson: ok, thanks | 15:23 |
| cjwatson | tseliot: anything after -- gets copied to the installed system, with the exception of a few special cases that are filtered out (basically stuff that's installer-specific, or in a few cases just stuff that's a bad idea to propagate) | 15:24 |
| tseliot | cjwatson: ok, I only need to pass different parameters for vga and console | 15:24 |
| cjwatson | vga is one of the things that's filtered out | 15:25 |
| cjwatson | because vga= at least used to break suspend/resume | 15:25 |
| tseliot | d'oh | 15:25 |
| cjwatson | you'll have to frob it in preseed/late_command if you really really want to set that | 15:25 |
| tseliot | cjwatson: ok, I'll look into that, thanks again | 15:26 |
| maco | cjwatson: is THAT why i couldnt use framebuffer before? | 15:35 |
| cjwatson | vga= shouldn't be necessary for framebuffer | 15:36 |
| cjwatson | did anyone ever manage to test https://launchpad.net/~cjwatson/+archive/ia32-libs-testing ? | 15:36 |
| cjwatson | when I first published that stuff it had some installability problems | 15:36 |
| maco | cjwatson: eh was the only way i knew to set the framebuffer mode | 15:40 |
| cjwatson | oh, sure, if you want to *tweak* the framebuffer ... | 15:40 |
| cjwatson | anyway, hopefully kms will make all this stuff unnecessary | 15:40 |
| ogra | if you have a card that supports it :) | 15:41 |
| blackxored | hello again folks | 15:41 |
| maco | it has indeed, for me | 15:53 |
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| ScottK | jdstrand: boost1.37 can die if you're interested (I gather it's your archive day): Bug #407388 | 16:08 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 407388 in boost1.37 "Please remove boost1.37 source and all binaries from Karmic" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/407388 | 16:08 |
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| ScottK | BTW, the scheduled execution date for boost1.35 is next week. | 16:31 |
| mathiaz | james_w: hey - has the import of debian packages stopped in pkg branches? | 17:07 |
| mathiaz | james_w: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/debian/sid/+source/openldap is not up-to-date | 17:07 |
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| pitti | tkamppeter: I'll most likely be at the sprint, yes | 17:54 |
| apw | pitti, any idea how one gets devkit-disks to allow you to mount a specific disk with specific options? | 18:00 |
| LaserJock | is devicekit really meant to be removed? | 18:15 |
| arand | I'd like to request an SRU for Bug #316502 | 18:21 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 316502 in gnumeric "cannot release a graph in gnumeric after click and drag" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/316502 | 18:21 |
| LaserJock | arand: man I hate that bug | 18:23 |
| arand | LaserJock: Indeed, that was why I did make the effort to patch it ;) | 18:24 |
| LaserJock | arand: so the bug is actually in goffice and not gnumeric? | 18:27 |
| arand | LaserJock: well, it's libgoffice that is patched so yes, I guess... There was a comment on no necessity of adding goffice since it was contained in gnumeric, so I just went by that and left libgoffice as "invalid" witout arguing.' | 18:29 |
| LaserJock | I think that's wrong, goffice is a separate source package | 18:30 |
| arand | But goffice is a separate package, so I'd personally say that'd be more correct... yea, exactly. | 18:30 |
| LaserJock | if the code that needs to be patched is in goffice then I think the bug should be against goffice | 18:30 |
| LaserJock | wow, that's a tiny patch too | 18:31 |
| arand | LaserJock: yes, it was a really nice one. | 18:32 |
| Ng | LaserJock: the changelogs for devicekit{,-power} suggest that it is supposed to be removed | 18:33 |
| LaserJock | Ng: k, thanks | 18:34 |
| Ng | LaserJock: the Ng Corporation accepts no liability for your system breaking into many pieces ;) | 18:34 |
| LaserJock | heh | 18:34 |
| Ng | (I did the upgrade on mine and things are mostly holding together, seems to be some g-p-m oddness, but I've not had a chance to figure it out well enough to file a bug) | 18:35 |
| jpds | http://paste.ubuntu.com/239705/ | 18:36 |
| arand | LaserJock: could you set a medium importance on the goffice part of the bug? I don't have permissions | 18:36 |
| jpds | Ng, LaserJock: ^^ | 18:38 |
| Ng | jpds: aha | 18:38 |
| LaserJock | arand: ok, reload bug #316502 and see if that looks right | 18:45 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 316502 in gnumeric "cannot release a graph in gnumeric after click and drag" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/316502 | 18:45 |
| arand | LaserJock: Thanks, that looks nice. | 18:47 |
| * ccheney thinks we should have a UDS in Madrid, its a very nice city :) just went on a 4 hr sightseeing tour before my flight home from debconf | 18:49 | |
| arand | Now, is there anything else to do on my side, or do I just wait for the SRU team now? | 18:49 |
| ccheney | er 'tour' being me with a map, heh | 18:49 |
| LaserJock | arand: you need a Core Dev to sponsor the patch | 18:53 |
| LaserJock | arand: could you fix up the bug description a little to follow point 2 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates#Procedure | 18:55 |
| arand | LaserJock: Ok, I'll see to it. For finding a dev, is that the devel mailing list, or should I go to the ubuntu maintainer(s) fro goffice? | 18:59 |
| LaserJock | arand: I can do it if you like. That bug really annoys me :-) | 19:00 |
| LaserJock | plus, I just got my PhD so what better way to celebrate but helping squash some nasty bugs :-) | 19:01 |
| arand | LaserJock: Yea, that'd be nice: and...Congratulations! | 19:02 |
| ScottK | LaserJock: Congratulations. | 19:04 |
| LaserJock | ScottK: thanks | 19:04 |
| LaserJock | it was a 2.5 hr defense but in the end it really wasn't that bad | 19:04 |
| ScottK | So it's Doctor LaserJock now. | 19:05 |
| LaserJock | yep | 19:05 |
| LaserJock | took me 11 years but I'm finally finished | 19:08 |
| LaserJock | no more school for me! | 19:08 |
| arand | Doctor LaserJock: Must be great :) ... Hum, thing is, I'm not sure what more to write in the "addressed-how?" than basically copying the upstream changelog entry... | 19:12 |
| LaserJock | that works | 19:12 |
| arand | ok done. | 19:13 |
| LaserJock | ok, let me tweak something real quick there | 19:14 |
| LaserJock | arand: ok, done. I just wanted to make it more clear that the bug is in goffice but manifests in gnumeric | 19:17 |
| arand | Doctor LaserJock: It's kinda my first ever patch so | 19:17 |
| LaserJock | awesome | 19:17 |
| arand | Doctor LaserJock: :) Problem is , feels like I'm screaming for help at every step :/ | 19:18 |
| arand | Doctor LaserJock: Okay, so you're taking the contact to core devs then? | 19:20 |
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| LaserJock | arand: well, it so happens that I am a Core Dev | 19:20 |
| LaserJock | arand: so I'm just getting the upload ready to go. Doing my own build and test | 19:21 |
| arand | Doctor LaserJock: How convenient :) Thanks again. | 19:22 |
| LaserJock | arand: no, thank you for following up on the bug, finding the patch, and putting together a debdiff | 19:23 |
| LaserJock | arand: I'm just gonna tweak the version number and changelog entry slightly to conform to policy better | 19:23 |
| arand | LaserJock: Yea, I was kinda guessing there, and hoped it would at least be informative... | 19:26 |
| phurl | hi all. I am frustrated to get ubuntu to install from a debian busybox live usb. It just does not work! | 19:47 |
| phurl | there are no loopback devices loaded. | 19:47 |
| phurl | anyone use unetbootin? | 20:39 |
| lool | cjwatson: Odd my laptop doesn't have xres and yres in usplash.conf; that might be why I was wondering how these are set; I do see these on my desktop | 20:55 |
| lool | cjwatson: Thanks for the info | 20:55 |
| LaserJock | arand: ok, I've uploaded your patch to intrepid-proposed and jaunty-proposed | 21:00 |
| LaserJock | arand: next step is for an admin to accept them and then get the testing feedback | 21:00 |
| arand | LaserJock: *smiles* | 21:01 |
| ogra | lool, mine has them explicitly commented but usplash doesnt break over here | 21:04 |
| ogra | LaserJock, hey Doc :) | 21:05 |
| ogra | LaserJock, congrats | 21:05 |
| lool | ogra: The breakage happens on < 600 pixels height | 21:08 |
| lool | or < 640 rather | 21:08 |
| LaserJock | ogra: thanks, it's been a long road | 21:08 |
| ogra | yeah | 21:08 |
| ogra | lool, so it does break for you and you have a value below 600 for y ? | 21:09 |
| orogor | hi here, i got some troubles with a remote and lirc apparently that s lioked to the fact that it s incorectly being registred as a kbd device | 21:16 |
| orogor | i saw a bug open for that , apparently the fix is already included in the version i use but i still have troubles | 21:17 |
| lool | ogra: It does not break for me | 21:28 |
| ogra | ah | 21:29 |
| ogra | but for people with an actual value below 600 | 21:29 |
| * ogra understands | 21:30 | |
| knoob | Hello. I'm trying to upgrade a remote machine from 7.04 to the latest. The tutorial online works up to the last point at which I get a 404 Not Found error. This is for Packages.gz and Sources.gz. Any help is appreciated | 21:34 |
| mathiaz | knoob: 7.04 is end-of-lifed - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades for an upgrade process. | 21:40 |
| knoob | mathiaz: that's the tutorial that i'm talking about | 21:40 |
| knoob | when I run ./gutsy it does stuff for a while, then quits out on two 404 errors | 21:41 |
| knoob | can I paste the error here? | 21:42 |
| mathiaz | knoob: it's probably because gusty is also end-of-lifed | 21:43 |
| mathiaz | knoob: look at the section about edgy->feisty upgrade | 21:43 |
| mathiaz | knoob: and you'll to adapt it to do a feisty->gutsy upgrade | 21:44 |
| knoob | ok i'll read that, thank you | 21:44 |
| mathiaz | knoob: the 404 error is because the gutsy script is trying to use archive.ubuntu.com to retrieve the Packages.gz and Sources.gz. | 21:44 |
| mathiaz | knoob: since gutsy is EOL, it has been moved to old-releases.ubuntu.com | 21:44 |
| knoob | no it's trying tog et http://free.linux.hp.com/~brett ... etc | 21:45 |
| mathiaz | knoob: thus the gutsy script probably needs to be patched the same way to use old-releases.ubuntu.com | 21:45 |
| knoob | i'm still reading 6.10-7.04 | 21:45 |
| knoob | mathiaz: Could you help me understand the patch job? I create the patch file and did sudo patch, but I got a Hunk #1 error | 21:51 |
| knoob | even if I change all existences of archive.ubuntu to old-releases.ubuntu, the gutsy installation still looks for http://free.linux.hp.com/~brett | 21:55 |
| mathiaz | knoob: did you had an custom entry in sources.list? | 21:58 |
| mathiaz | knoob: http://free.linux.hp.com/ doesn't look like a standard mirror | 21:58 |
| knoob | mathiaz: i'll check... this wasn't my machine until a few weeks ago | 21:59 |
| knoob | mathiaz: you're right, there's an installation of freenx that's preventing me from upgrading.. i don't even know what freenx is | 22:00 |
| knoob | mathiaz: i added # before those two lines and it seems to have helped... upgrade is still running | 22:04 |
| knoob | mathiaz: The distribution upgrade was running fine until just now. "kdepim" failed because "kmail" version was a little bit too old. The whole process stopped and I was dropped back to shell. How can I continue upgrading? | 22:37 |
| * cody-somerville wonders what (deleted) besides the filename in the memory map of a process as presented by gnome-system-monitor means. | 23:00 | |
| cjwatson | it means that the file has been unlinked but the process still has the inode open | 23:02 |
| cjwatson | you'll see it in particular when stuff gets upgraded under a running process' feet | 23:02 |
| phurl | it works now | 23:21 |
| knoob | Hey guys, I just upgraded from 7.04 to 7.10, and before upgrading to 8.04 I wanted to check MySQL. It fails to recognize any of the users with the correct passwords. Any help? | 23:32 |
| ScottK | knoob: This is a development channel, not a help channel and both 7.04 and 7.10 are out of support anyway | 23:33 |
| knoob | Just figured you guys would have a few of those questions | 23:33 |
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