=== asac_ is now known as asac [00:33] asac, everything ok [00:33] asac, builds fine on amd64 [00:33] asac, I've pushed them to my website, gonna mail you the dgettable url [00:44] asac, did you receive mail? [00:44] asac, having some problems with my client [00:44] yep, sent [00:45] hey, some what silly question [00:45] just to confirm [00:45] sudo apt-get remove firefox-3.5 [00:45] will remove the shiretoko build of firefox on jaunty, right? [00:46] I guess ff3.5 was built for karmic only [00:47] let me see [00:47] no, it got uploaded to jaunty-security as well [00:48] starwind, yes, that will delete your 3.5 copy [00:48] use the purge option to remove config file as well [00:48] how is that done? [00:48] sudo apt-get purge firefox-3.5 [00:49] alright, and that is used after the apt get remove, right? [00:49] you can directly use purge [00:50] purge includes delete [00:50] I see, so it will uninstall and remove the config files [00:51] uninstall the package and remove config files [00:51] yes [00:51] great, thanks :) [00:51] np [00:55] what command would I use if I wanted to install the minefield build of firefox? [00:55] minefield? [00:56] yes, I think that's the codename [00:56] for the nightly builds [00:56] sound like you need to active a ppa for that [00:57] ok [04:05] hey all [04:06] anyone here tested out the new 64bit flash update? [04:06] libflashplayer-10.0.32.18.linux-x86_64.so.tar.gz [04:06] i keep getting a bunch of these... [04:06] *** NSPlugin Viewer *** ERROR: /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/libflashplayer.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64 [04:15] where is it? [04:16] billybigrigger: where is it? [04:16] http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplayer10/libflashplayer-10.0.32.18.linux-x86_64.so.tar.gz [04:17] i [04:17] ah, we don't support downloads from adobe [04:17] i'm surprised you guys haven't jumped all over this :P [04:17] haha what did you expect, i said 64bit flash update [04:17] did they officially release the 64 bit version [04:17] no, its an update [04:17] or is it still alpha? [04:18] still the alpha prerelease ya [04:18] ok [04:18] yeah, we're not gonna release it until it's stable [04:18] but [04:18] my guess is you shouldn't been running nsplguinwrapper with 64 but flash [04:18] *bit [04:20] billybigrigger@cabo:/usr/lib/flashplugin-installer$ ls [04:20] libflashplayer.so [04:20] is the one i had it there before [04:20] and i have sound in flash and it works good, so i'm not messing with it :) tried that new one and don't want to muck with it too much [04:20] :) [04:21] yes, make sure you remove nspluginwrapper from your system [04:21] ok [08:36] asac / fta: ping [09:26] reed_: ? [09:30] asac: I cc'd you to a bug [09:30] oh, apparently I didn't [09:31] mozilla bug 507568 [09:31] Error: Error getting Mozilla bug #507568: NotPermitted [09:39] let me check [10:35] morning asac [10:35] did you receive my mail in the end? [10:36] havent checked mails yet [10:36] ok [10:36] yes i see a mail from you [10:36] thakns [10:36] will try to do that later [10:36] perfect [10:37] asac, a guy is NMUing it with a deferred upload, I've already added my comment on the bug and wrote to him on irc. I guess we should upload my fix before the delay ends [10:37] andv: NMUes are not really a big problem. [10:37] andv: have you included his changes? [10:37] asac, yes [10:38] asac, I already had those changes anyway [10:38] asac, it was a fix for a grave bug [10:38] I was working on it already [10:38] ok [10:39] asac, so I don't want to have an NMU on my package [10:39] it's not nice [10:39] ;) [10:39] it's not a big problem, but it's not nice [10:39] well. [10:39] its really not a problem at all [10:40] you should give credit to him [10:40] asac, already done [10:40] in the changelo [10:40] ok good. [10:41] asac, I gonna leave for the 3 pm, if you gonna process it for that hour would be great, then I'm off for 3 days [10:41] andv: why would i hurry if you go to holidays. [10:42] i will upload if its good [10:42] yep [10:42] if not it has to wait. ... think of me as the one who has 25+ much more severe issues on his plate than a NMU [10:42] yep, I know [10:42] :) [10:42] i will try it anyway [10:43] I made everything ready for you, so it won't take more than 5 minutes [10:43] so you won't lose time [10:43] ty alex [11:33] hey asac, good morning. I'd like to talk about the FF3.5 translations next week, so I'll try to grab you at some point at the sprint if you've got some time [11:35] ack [11:43] (actually, it should have been good afternoon ;) [12:21] dpm: hmm. it was 12:33 that qualifies for morning here [12:24] :) [12:38] asac, for me, morning ends up at 11:59 [12:39] fta: i align my day to UTC :) [12:50] Bug 402767 [12:50] Launchpad bug 402767 in firefox-3.5 "multisearch add on blocks the functionality of firefox location bar" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/402767 [13:38] asac, I'm leaving in around 10 minutes, are you able to send me a text message on my mobile? [13:38] if everything went fine [13:41] no [13:41] sorry. [13:42] ook [13:42] its better for you to assume that all went ok anyway [13:42] if you cannot change it [13:42] otherwise you will be unhappy all weekend ;) [13:42] lol [13:43] also i dont know why not everything should be ok [13:43] yeah [13:43] andv: when was the NMU uploaded? [13:43] asac, it has been uploaded to deferred [13:43] and to which delayed queue [13:43] 1 day remained [13:43] k [13:43] and it will be accepted if my upload [13:44] doesnt get in [13:44] at least then the NMUer didnt do his work for nothing [13:44] 1 days 04:46 [13:44] k [13:44] i will upload if i can ... promissed. but you shouldnt sweat it; there are worse things in the world [13:44] yeah, I integrated his changes and gave some credit to him [13:44] yeah. so even if the NMU gets in the upload will clean it and all will be happy [13:45] asac, yeah, that's for suree [13:45] asac, well, if the NMU gets in, it will need some changes to the package I made [13:45] e.g integrating changelog entry [13:46] what about debian bug 377270 is that in the pipeline? [13:46] Debian bug 377270 in agg "agg doesn't provide a shared library" [Important,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/377270 [13:46] forwarded upstream ages ago [13:46] but no responses [13:46] lets talk about that when you come back [13:47] we already talked about it in the past [13:47] ;) [13:47] have fun at the sea [13:47] thanks alex [13:47] andv: yes. but if upstream doesnt move you can make a shared lib out of it maybe. [13:47] let's hope everything will be fine [13:47] when I get back [13:47] if we already discussed that and there were reasons not to do it, then so be it ;) [13:47] asac, no [13:47] asac, it's broken [13:48] agg doesn't ship one because it's broken. it was .so.2 in 2.2, 2.3 and [13:48] it in 2.4. WITH incompatible API/ABI changes. [13:48] upstream won't provide a shared lib [13:48] already discussed [13:48] fine, I'm off [13:48] take care [13:49] going to take my gf [13:49] cya [14:47] ping asac === kimus1 is now known as kimus [14:55] http://identi.ca/notice/7312246 [14:56] can I talk to you a bit asac? [14:56] just ask/talk ... dont send contentless pings ;) [14:57] asac: sorry dont want to be rude [14:57] asac: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/407359 [14:57] Launchpad bug 407359 in network-manager "USB Modem e156G not working" [Undecided,New] [14:58] asac: i'm steeling my neighbor net :-) [15:02] asac: can you can help me with this... I can help you debugging :-) [15:02] kimus: shouldnt that be ttyUSB0? [15:02] or something? [15:02] what do you get for ls /dev/ttyUSB* [15:02] even that does not work :-) no probinf ingo asac [15:02] * [15:02] it's 0 in the end [15:03] please run that output then [15:03] kimus: a) can you see your modem? [15:03] in NM? [15:03] /lib/udev/nm-modem-probe --verbose --export /sys/class/tty/ttyUSB0 ... outputs the same [15:04] kimus: its a huawei? [15:04] asac: what do you mean about 'seeing' the modem in the NM? it shows the GSM connection that I have, after inserting the modem [15:04] asac: yes it's an huawei [15:05] kimus: so dont touch ttyUSB0 [15:05] try ttyUSB1 (but unplug, replug first) [15:05] humm [15:06] anyway [15:06] the modem-probe isnt the problem if you see it in NM [15:06] L: main(): (/sys/class/tty/ttyUSB1): usb-vid 0x0000 usb-pid 0x0000 usb-intf 0 driver '(null)' [15:06] e.g. it means the prober properly detected it [15:06] asac: I attached all stuff in the lp bug [15:07] NetworkManager: (ttyUSB0): exported as /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_12d1_1003_noserial_if0_serial_usb_0 [15:07] odd [15:07] so he is using USB0 [15:08] ok stop NM /etc/ini*/NetworkMa* stop [15:08] then run it from command line like: [15:08] DEBUG? [15:08] sudo NM_SERIAL_DEBUG=1 NetworkManager --no-daemon 2>&1 | tee /tmp/nm.log.txt [15:08] I did that [15:08] then plug in your huawei [15:08] I will attach that :-D [15:08] and attach that log [15:09] after connect fails [15:09] thx [15:09] it's running for a while. should I do again or you filter ? [15:09] so I dont loose the internet :-D [15:10] ok... attaching [15:10] done [15:10] the last thing I did was the connect [15:10] asac: what does nss do? [15:11] bdrung: ssl etc. [15:12] ah, ok [15:12] asac: so nm is trying ttyUSB0 and not ttyUSB1 in the logs [15:12] should it be USB1? [15:13] kimus: i dont know yet. i would have thought so [15:13] but first i need the log [15:13] asac: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/29751290/nm-serial.txt [15:15] kimus: thats more than one connect attempt [15:15] the last one [15:15] in the end [15:16] NetworkManager: Activation (ttyUSB0) starting connection 'SAPO' [15:16] thats not a freshly started NM [15:16] after a fresh plug of the modem [15:16] do you need that? [15:16] thats what i said [15:16] i will loose the net :-S [15:16] ok ok.. I will do that for you... brb :-D [15:17] kimus: well. isnt the first attempt that? [15:17] are you sure you did a fresh plug before? [15:17] if not. please do that... modems can get in weird follow up states [15:17] kimus: another thing ... [15:17] kimus: do you have APN/username/password set for connection? [15:18] ok ;) [15:19] asac: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/29751445/nm-serial.txt [15:22] do you need more info asac? [15:26] kimus: do you have a root shell open? [15:26] asac: sure... what you need [15:27] kimus: close all root shells and try [15:27] check that there is no /var/console/root [15:27] err /var/run/console/root [15:27] dbus bug that is [15:27] exists [15:28] yes. make that the root is not there anymore -> exit all root shells you have [15:28] ah ok :-) [15:28] done [15:28] no root console [15:28] ls /var/run/console/root [15:28] must not exist [15:29] otherwise it wont work [15:29] you can open root shells after you connected, but not while connecting [15:29] asac: like i said... there's none now [15:29] for ppp [15:29] asac, is select broken for you too in ff? [15:29] yes. then the error should be different. but i expect it to work [15:29] fta: what kind of select? [15:30] asac: so I do the nm-serial log again? but without a root console? [15:30] kimus: sudo ... doesnt create one afaik [15:30] ok [15:31] again... out we go [15:31] kimus: check if it doesnt connect that ther eis no root ;) [15:32] asac, http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/select-bug-ff.ogv [15:34] i remember a similar bug a year or so ago when 3.0 was still trunk [15:34] but i dont see it (nor do i use 3.6 much atm :() [15:34] i need to use what we ship [15:35] asac: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/29751862/nm.log.txt [15:35] asac, grr, why do i get the profile selector each time i start 3.5? === kimus1 is now known as kimus [15:36] kimus1: do you have APN/username/password set? (sorry if naswered above) [15:36] asac: I'll check [15:36] fta: that happens if you have two profiles ... or started it once and didnt check the "dont ask me again" [15:37] dont ask me again should work ;) [15:37] asac: no user and no passwd [15:38] asac: so do I need to put the user and password ? that's odd [15:38] kimus: set them to someting [15:39] asac: try again? [15:39] a few modems need that to not go rouge [15:39] rouge [15:39] ;) [15:39] let's try without debug [15:39] asac: so you should make a list... wish modems need :-D [15:40] kimus: its fixed in latest NM [15:40] asac: oh... I see [15:40] but not in jaunty [15:40] tryied the ppa and was not working [15:40] but ok :-) [15:40] kimus: did you use the broadband wizard to setup the connection? [15:40] kimus: yes. ppa isnt the latest on jaunty yet. [15:41] no wizard [15:41] wanted to do it in real karmic first because a bunch of people rely on that [15:41] kimus: yeah. so if you use the wizard it sets username/password for most providers [15:41] so maybe you woudnt have seen it [15:41] you need libmbca0 installed for the wizard [15:41] disconnected... not working... trying again... sometimes only on the 2nd atempt [15:42] nope... seeing the "disconect" libnotify popup right away [15:43] asac: so what do you sugest? [15:45] asac: libmbca0: Depends: mobile-broadband-provider-info but it is not going to be installed [15:50] kimus: do you still have the NM ppa enabled? [15:50] might be that thats the problem [15:50] i think i updated the mobile-broadband-provider-info there already to prepare the update to latesat upstream [15:50] which breaks libmbca0 .... so its not going to be installed [15:51] asac: loosed connection. sorry, did you said something? [15:52] 16:45 < kimus> asac: libmbca0: Depends: mobile-broadband-provider-info but it is not going to be installed [15:52] 16:50 < asac> kimus: do you still have the NM ppa enabled? [15:52] 16:50 < asac> might be that thats the problem [15:52] 16:50 < asac> i think i updated the mobile-broadband-provider-info there already to prepare the update to latesat upstream [15:52] 16:50 -!- kimus [n=kimus@pa3-84-90-215-77.netvisao.pt] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] [15:52] 16:50 < asac> which breaks libmbca0 .... so its not going to be installed [15:53] asac: :-)... so concluding... i'm ...f#@%d [15:56] asac: thank you, do you recomend anything else? [15:56] a ppa? an upgrade? what? :-S [15:57] kimus: all is fine [15:57] you said it worked. [15:57] at least sometimes ;) [15:57] which is a good step ahead [15:57] there are some serial consoel problems. maybe the PPA NM helps [15:58] to get more reliable connections [15:58] worked what? only works with another modem... but not what I need :-) [15:58] did you add username/password, etc.? [15:58] yes [15:59] well. i need to the serial debug then. but first upgrade to ppa version [15:59] there are a few bugs fixed i dont want to fix again [15:59] so what ppa do you recomend? [15:59] https://edge.launchpad.net/~network-manager/+archive/ppa [16:01] humm I had that... but then BUGabundo recomended another... even with 0.8 didnt work... but I didn't have the user/pass settings :-D [16:03] asac: the version on the ppa it's almost the sabe... 0.7.1 [16:04] *the same [16:20] asac: using modem now :-D [16:21] kimus: nice. so its fixed there? [16:21] kimus: is it using ttyUSB0 ? [16:21] do you care? :-D [16:21] asac: GSM (ttyUSB0) [16:22] and I had to empty de pass and user asac [16:23] the problem was the APN ... [16:23] but... first it conencted and no ping... then I restarted the wizard and sqy Any in the modem... and worked [16:23] asac: thank you [16:24] yes apn is even more often needed [16:25] user/password can do hard, but sometimes random values help similar to aPN [16:26] asac: using user and passwd was requesting a passwd .:-D [16:26] kimus: something random didnt work? [16:26] asac: nope.. strange [16:27] k [16:27] asac: the modem was detected like e220 it's normal? [16:27] not sure what that means [16:28] intead of detecting has a e156G on the connection wizard... in the modem combo appeared e220 [16:28] so it must be normal right asac? [16:28] I choosed Any nevertheless :-D [16:29] i would have to check that [16:29] but i wouldnt be surprised ... so if it works, dont bother ;) [16:33] asac: just give me a ping on #ubuntu-pt if you need debugging :-D [16:34] i think its unlikely to remember that if i need it ;) [16:34] * asac wonders if setting up a wiki page for hardware owners would help to get feedback and help on specific modems [16:34] asac: maybe you can remember #linux-pt eh eh eh [16:36] asac: thanks again [16:38] np [17:15] Rejected: [17:15] xulrunner-1.9.1_1.9.1.2~hg20090730r26181+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd1.dsc: Version older than that in the archive. 1.9.1.2~hg20090730r26181+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd1 <= 1.9.1.3~hg20090730r26178+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd1 ???? [17:17] can someone look at bug 348505, it seems to be a bad interaction with ff3.5 and the new gnome shell [17:17] Launchpad bug 348505 in firefox-3.5 "firefox-3.5 crashed with SIGSEGV in __pthread_mutex_lock()" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/348505 [17:22] fta: maybe version bump backout [17:30] fta: yes. have a look at the beginning: 1.9.1.2 <= 1.9.1.3~hg20090730r26178+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd1 ???? [17:30] fta: yes. have a look at the beginning: 1.9.1.2 < 1.9.1.3 [17:35] bdrung, i can read, i just wonder why upstream decided to do that [17:36] bdrung, sorry, i often skip the obvious in my questions [17:45] fta: ok === BUGabundo1 is now known as BUGabundo [19:35] asac: could you look at bug 348505 [19:35] Launchpad bug 348505 in firefox-3.5 "firefox-3.5 crashed with SIGSEGV in __pthread_mutex_lock()" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/348505 [19:36] hey asa [19:36] *asac [19:39] asac, "we use our custom Hunspell which uses a custom dictionary format for better performance." *sigh* === BUGabundo1 is now known as BUGabundo [20:15] fta: as long as the api they use is not differnt thats ok ;) [20:21] micahg: i reopened the upstream bug for now. if we invalidate it let me know or invalidate the upstrewam bug too [20:22] micahg: maybe subscribe to upstream bug and let me know if he closes it again [20:22] ok [20:22] thanks [20:25] asac: is the policy of closing retrace-failed bugs still in effect? [20:28] micahg: its not really policy, but a consequence ... if there are instructions to reproduce we should try to get one by ourself [20:28] ok [20:29] oh, about the dictionaries? [20:29] spelling problems should be opened again teh appropriate myspell package? [20:31] asac: ^^^^ [20:34] micahg: depends [20:34] words misspelled/unknown -> most likely hunspell langpack [20:34] not smart enough -> most likely hunspell main package [20:35] wrong dictionary default -> not so sure ... probably firefox for now [20:35] yep unknown words [20:35] that depends. [20:35] if its a variant because of language particularities [20:35] bug 407145 [20:35] Launchpad bug 407145 in firefox-3.5 "Firefox UK English spell checker doesn't know its own name" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/407145 [20:35] like (casus, etc.) its hunspell main package [20:36] ok so Firefox missing? [20:36] thats -uk langpack [20:36] hunspell? [20:36] i would think hunspell-uk or something [20:36] ok [20:36] I'll take care of it this weekend [20:36] if there are sources fdor that [20:36] thanks [20:36] iam out now most of the time till monday where we start sprinting in dublin [20:37]