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trothigari was wondering what the time interval between requests for differences is when the client is "idle"?00:45
dobeytrothigar: how do you mean exactly? to request for changes from the server?03:59
trothigardobey, yes, how often does it request changes?09:12
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sladenis there a tracking bug for the lack of  storagefs<->updown notification?10:55
sladenthere appear to be a whole bunch of bugs that (despite different descriptions) boil down to making a change locally and not seeing it reflected on the web, or vice-versa10:56
trothigarhello, i was wondering how often the client pulls syncing information from the server when its "idle"12:57
dobeytrothigar: it doesn't poll the server. the server is supposed to send notifications when things change server-side, but there is some missing glue at the moment that's being heavily worked on13:57
trothigardobey, ok many thanks. any eta? i take it hte work around is to disconnect and reconnect whenever you go to a different machine13:58
dobeysladen: changes made locally not getting synced to the server is a client issue, and changes made elsewhere not being reflected locally is a server issue, and yes, there are multiple bugs for both at the moment13:58
trothigardobey, ty14:02
dobeytrothigar: i'm not working on it, so i'm not sure exactly when it will be done. i'm working on the desktop client ui stuff mostly, so i have my own other set of super critical issues to fix :)14:04
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sladendobey: right, which one did I incorrectly dup?   The ones relating to updown<->fs-1 not communicating I'm dupping to  #lefthandrighthand14:13
dobeysladen: i don't know. i didn't see which ones you duped. i moved all the ubunet ones over to ubunet yesterday though14:15
jblountMEETING BEGINS15:02
jblountIf you are here for the desktop(+) meeting, please follow with a me. format is DONE/TODO/BLOCKED:15:03
teknicome15:03
jblountme15:03
CardinalFangme15:03
urbanapeme15:03
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rodrigo_me15:04
dobeyme15:04
aquariusme15:04
vdsme15:05
teknicolet's go15:05
teknicoDONE: implemented the subscription check when syncing a phone, corrected some docstrings and comments15:05
teknicoTODO: testing the subscription check when syncing a phone, landing all three branches15:05
teknicoBLOCKED: none15:05
tekniconext: jblount15:05
jblountDONE: Vacation15:05
jblountTODO: mark all as read in my @canonical.com, reviews, figure out what is left for /files/new and perform those tasks15:05
jblountBLOCKED: nope15:05
jblountCardinalFang: You!15:05
CardinalFangDONE: finished desktopcouch API update.15:06
CardinalFangTODO: Queue to trink.  Merge spawning code into same branch as paste code.  Test.15:06
CardinalFangBLOCKED: []15:06
CardinalFangurbanape!15:06
urbanapeDONE: Pushed a branch for proper deletion of empty folders. Made big breakthrough with the javascript sharing tab in the new files UI.15:06
urbanapeTODO: Finish sharing tab. Push it, &c. Face, today (in place of statik).15:06
urbanapeBLOCK: None15:06
urbanaperodrigo go go15:06
rodrigo_• DONE: More snowy and Tomboy fixes and debugging. Submitted ken's fixes to REVU. Landed tomboy-fixes branch. Discussed with arusha and aquarius about web notes UI15:06
rodrigo_• TODO: land use-source-properties branch. Add more tests in couchdb-glib test suite. More openSUSE packaging. Store UUIDs in VCARD's correctly. Fix notes/ saving and tomboy syncing. Change note record format as per xdg page. Social from the start discussion with ken and dobey15:06
rodrigo_• BLOCKED: none15:06
rodrigo_dobey: go quick!15:06
CardinalFangOoo, bullets.15:06
dobeyDONE: Lots of bug triage (server bugs -> ubunet), Looked over applet code to estimate work for always running the applet15:06
dobeyTODO: Reviews, Lots of UI hacking, #375197, #15:06
dobeyBLCK: 1.0a on server side (pending oauth.py upstream 1.0a patch approval)15:06
rodrigo_CardinalFang: yeah, I'm more fancy :-)15:06
dobeyaquarius: you're up chap15:07
aquarius☠ DONE: spoke to arusha and rodrigo about web notes UI; couch stuff; frustrating struggles with django and piston authentication; have a big headache15:07
aquarius☠ TODO: fix the blasted auth stuff15:07
aquarius☠ BLOCKED: none15:07
aquariusvds: rock out with your socks out15:07
vdsDONE: landed funambol deployment scripts, updated the funambol wiki, emailed funambol support guys, discussed with mark about deployment, code review15:07
vdsTODO: more code review, start a new branch for contact snapshot15:07
vdsBLOCKED: nope, but I have 50% of the cpu busy and I don't understand who's using it...weird...15:07
vdsthat's it I guess15:07
teknicoaquarius, what the heck is *that*? :-)15:07
* aquarius grins15:07
rodrigo_heh, aquarius' bullets are fancier :D15:08
aquariusskull and crossbones. In unicode. I love unicode.15:08
jblountMEETING ENDS15:08
aquariusnice one jblount, and welcome back :)15:08
jblountaquarius: :)15:08
jblountdobey: Thanks for that review_list app, it was super useful this morning!15:11
dobeysure15:11
CardinalFangjblount, thanks for that review this morning, too.15:11
jblountCardinalFang: Sure thing!15:12
pfibigerjblount: did you harvest many scallops?15:17
jblountpfibiger: Crazy amounts. I have the sunburn on my back to prove it.15:18
jblountLuckily, scallops are like zero fun to clean and shell. blegh.15:18
dobeypfibiger: scallops? is that another term for baby octopus?15:18
jblountdobey: heh15:19
pfibigerjblount: cool. I've never really done any clam/mussel/scallop harvesting, it seems like it could be fun (if you get a lot)15:19
jblountpfibiger: Yeah, it is fun to retrieve them. It's a bit depressing when you see how much meat you get out of 4 or 5 hours of pretty tough work, but good exercise.15:20
dobeysladen: thanks for helping out with bug triage, btw15:25
rmcbridemmmm fresh scallops15:32
CardinalFangdobey, PQM says I'm not authorized to merge to desktopcouch.  Can you fix it?15:41
CardinalFangCan I?15:41
dobeyCardinalFang: we don't use pqm for desktopcouch15:41
CardinalFangOh.15:41
dobeyCardinalFang: does that fix the tests that were failing in desktopcouch also? you and statik were looking at that, right?15:43
CardinalFangdobey, No, it doesn't fix, AFAIK.  I have a bug for that.15:44
CardinalFangdobey, "Update this branch:   You cannot upload to this branch. Members of Ubuntu One Control Tower  can upload to this branch. "15:44
dobeyCardinalFang: right, it's one of those projects we'll be managing with tarmac :)15:45
dobeyCardinalFang: set the commit message in the merge proposal, and i can land it :)15:45
aquariusCardinalFang, you get to ask kenvandine to merge it for you, or dobey, or me I think. We're the manual pqm. ;)15:45
dobeypqm is the manual pqm15:46
* aquarius laughs15:46
aquariusharsh but basically fair :)15:46
dobeyas soon as we get an image built for running tarmac on though, landing branches in the clients will be automated15:47
dobeythough the desktopcouch tests need to be fixed to pass first15:47
CardinalFangdobey, Okay.  commit message set.  lp:~cmiller/desktopcouch/excise-temporary-views15:48
CardinalFanghttps://code.edge.launchpad.net/~cmiller/desktopcouch/excise-temporary-views/+merge/947115:48
dobeyCardinalFang: and we also don't need the [r=] bit for the client projects any more, tarmac handles reviewers automatically too :)15:49
CardinalFangOoo.15:49
CardinalFangtarmac is still a mystery.  I only know what it is because of the verb "land" that we use.15:50
aquariusdobey, does it? it goes and looks in launchpad? that's pretty cool15:50
jblountCardinalFang: http://launchpad.net/tarmac15:51
dobeyaquarius: yeah. i fixed it to store the reviewers, and the url to the merge proposal, inside revision properties when it commits15:51
aquariusdobey, cor. Impressed.15:52
aquariusdobey, why isn't everyone using it instead of pqm?15:52
aquariusand...who built tarmac? was it rockstar? (was it you?)15:52
dobeymostly rockstar15:52
dobeybut statik and myself have done a fair bit of hacking on it too15:53
dobeyanyway, desktopcouch branches are landed16:01
sladendobey: does https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client/+bug/363243 need repointing to ubuntuone-storage-protocol  (which is where the stacktrace heads)16:08
ubottuLaunchpad bug 363243 in ubuntuone-client "No way to re-add a computer to your account" [High,Triaged]16:08
sladen(ignoring the title, and looking at the actual crash)16:09
dobeysladen: no16:12
dobeysladen: the u1sync --authorize specific issue is separate from the general issue of the report16:13
sladenplease can somebody make  #404093    public as there are bugs dupped to it16:30
sladendobey: yeah, I think there's about 3 issues in there---and I don't claim to understand 363243 so I'll leave it16:30
dobeyoh it's only got one dup16:31
dobeyis public now16:32
sladendobey: it sounds like it's the sae as #lefthandrighthand (which has 8 dups)16:32
dobeywhy are you typing "lefthandrighthand" instead of a number?16:33
sladenbug #37549516:34
ubottuLaunchpad bug 375495 in ubunet "No change notification between webstorage(updown) and storagefs(fs-1)" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/37549516:34
sladenDNS for bug reports;  as in "the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing"16:35
sladenit's the nickname field---could be anything, but that sticks in my mind better than "oh, it's 1-2-3-4-5-6"16:35
dobeyexcept i have no idea what you're talking about :)16:36
sladenhttps://launchpad.net/bugs/lefthandrighthand16:36
sladenmmm, the bot doesn't recognise that16:37
dobeyprobably a good thing16:38
dobeybecause i don't want to get flooded with 5000 lines of bot spam when someone pastes a link to the ui tag or something16:38
dobeyoh16:39
dobeynicknames are ok i guess, unless lots of bugs end up having the same nickname16:40
sladenthey can't, the whole point it's an easier-to-remember nickname16:42
sladen(hench setting it to something else with numbers, like a story board ID is almost as bad...)16:42
dobeyi don't know about that16:45
dobeyif it's a bug i'm looking at often, i end up remembering the number anyway16:45
dobeylike the IOError: Interrupted system call or whatever due to poking STDERR when xdg-open succeeded, is #40209116:46
dobeybug #lefthandrighthand16:46
dobeyhrmm16:46
dobeyit probably wants "bug #[0-9]+"16:47
sladenfiled that  https://launchpad.net/bugs/nicknamedbug16:49
sladen(bug #407402)16:50
ubottuLaunchpad bug 407402 in ubuntu-bots "ubottu does not recognise bugs with nicknames" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/40740216:50
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greg-ghmmm, just copied about 1.7 gigs of files into my My Files folder, and now UbuntuOne is taking its sweet time uploading to the servers (~20 k/s, and I'm on a .edu LAN)21:08
CardinalFanggreg-g, k?  kb or kB?21:28
dobeyKB presumably21:41
CardinalFangEither way, it's probably not great.21:42
CardinalFangIn my day we measured bandwidth in bits, and if we needed to talk about 8 at a time, we'd say "octets"!21:44
* CardinalFang shakes his fist at the kids on his lawn.21:44
greg-gCardinalFang: KiB/s21:50
greg-g:)21:50
rmcbrideCardinalFang: Sheer luxury. WHen I was a lad, we only had 4 bits. If we wanted more we had to buy a whole other computer21:56
dobeyrmcbride: aye, ye had it well! we had to arrange pebbles in middle t'road, during rush hour22:00
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