=== ink|Regnum is now known as ink_away [00:45] i was wondering what the time interval between requests for differences is when the client is "idle"? [03:59] trothigar: how do you mean exactly? to request for changes from the server? [09:12] dobey, yes, how often does it request changes? === yofel_ is now known as yofel [10:55] is there a tracking bug for the lack of storagefs<->updown notification? [10:56] there appear to be a whole bunch of bugs that (despite different descriptions) boil down to making a change locally and not seeing it reflected on the web, or vice-versa [12:57] hello, i was wondering how often the client pulls syncing information from the server when its "idle" [13:57] trothigar: it doesn't poll the server. the server is supposed to send notifications when things change server-side, but there is some missing glue at the moment that's being heavily worked on [13:58] dobey, ok many thanks. any eta? i take it hte work around is to disconnect and reconnect whenever you go to a different machine [13:58] sladen: changes made locally not getting synced to the server is a client issue, and changes made elsewhere not being reflected locally is a server issue, and yes, there are multiple bugs for both at the moment [14:02] dobey, ty [14:04] trothigar: i'm not working on it, so i'm not sure exactly when it will be done. i'm working on the desktop client ui stuff mostly, so i have my own other set of super critical issues to fix :) === ink_away is now known as inkvizitor68sl [14:13] dobey: right, which one did I incorrectly dup? The ones relating to updown<->fs-1 not communicating I'm dupping to #lefthandrighthand [14:15] sladen: i don't know. i didn't see which ones you duped. i moved all the ubunet ones over to ubunet yesterday though [15:02] MEETING BEGINS [15:03] If you are here for the desktop(+) meeting, please follow with a me. format is DONE/TODO/BLOCKED: [15:03] me [15:03] me [15:03] me [15:03] me === inkvizitor68sl is now known as ink|RegnumTime [15:04] me [15:04] me [15:04] me [15:05] me [15:05] let's go [15:05] DONE: implemented the subscription check when syncing a phone, corrected some docstrings and comments [15:05] TODO: testing the subscription check when syncing a phone, landing all three branches [15:05] BLOCKED: none [15:05] next: jblount [15:05] DONE: Vacation [15:05] TODO: mark all as read in my @canonical.com, reviews, figure out what is left for /files/new and perform those tasks [15:05] BLOCKED: nope [15:05] CardinalFang: You! [15:06] DONE: finished desktopcouch API update. [15:06] TODO: Queue to trink. Merge spawning code into same branch as paste code. Test. [15:06] BLOCKED: [] [15:06] urbanape! [15:06] DONE: Pushed a branch for proper deletion of empty folders. Made big breakthrough with the javascript sharing tab in the new files UI. [15:06] TODO: Finish sharing tab. Push it, &c. Face, today (in place of statik). [15:06] BLOCK: None [15:06] rodrigo go go [15:06] • DONE: More snowy and Tomboy fixes and debugging. Submitted ken's fixes to REVU. Landed tomboy-fixes branch. Discussed with arusha and aquarius about web notes UI [15:06] • TODO: land use-source-properties branch. Add more tests in couchdb-glib test suite. More openSUSE packaging. Store UUIDs in VCARD's correctly. Fix notes/ saving and tomboy syncing. Change note record format as per xdg page. Social from the start discussion with ken and dobey [15:06] • BLOCKED: none [15:06] dobey: go quick! [15:06] Ooo, bullets. [15:06] DONE: Lots of bug triage (server bugs -> ubunet), Looked over applet code to estimate work for always running the applet [15:06] TODO: Reviews, Lots of UI hacking, #375197, # [15:06] BLCK: 1.0a on server side (pending oauth.py upstream 1.0a patch approval) [15:06] CardinalFang: yeah, I'm more fancy :-) [15:07] aquarius: you're up chap [15:07] ☠ DONE: spoke to arusha and rodrigo about web notes UI; couch stuff; frustrating struggles with django and piston authentication; have a big headache [15:07] ☠ TODO: fix the blasted auth stuff [15:07] ☠ BLOCKED: none [15:07] vds: rock out with your socks out [15:07] DONE: landed funambol deployment scripts, updated the funambol wiki, emailed funambol support guys, discussed with mark about deployment, code review [15:07] TODO: more code review, start a new branch for contact snapshot [15:07] BLOCKED: nope, but I have 50% of the cpu busy and I don't understand who's using it...weird... [15:07] that's it I guess [15:07] aquarius, what the heck is *that*? :-) [15:07] * aquarius grins [15:08] heh, aquarius' bullets are fancier :D [15:08] skull and crossbones. In unicode. I love unicode. [15:08] MEETING ENDS [15:08] nice one jblount, and welcome back :) [15:08] aquarius: :) [15:11] dobey: Thanks for that review_list app, it was super useful this morning! [15:11] sure [15:11] jblount, thanks for that review this morning, too. [15:12] CardinalFang: Sure thing! [15:17] jblount: did you harvest many scallops? [15:18] pfibiger: Crazy amounts. I have the sunburn on my back to prove it. [15:18] Luckily, scallops are like zero fun to clean and shell. blegh. [15:18] pfibiger: scallops? is that another term for baby octopus? [15:19] dobey: heh [15:19] jblount: cool. I've never really done any clam/mussel/scallop harvesting, it seems like it could be fun (if you get a lot) [15:20] pfibiger: Yeah, it is fun to retrieve them. It's a bit depressing when you see how much meat you get out of 4 or 5 hours of pretty tough work, but good exercise. [15:25] sladen: thanks for helping out with bug triage, btw [15:32] mmmm fresh scallops [15:41] dobey, PQM says I'm not authorized to merge to desktopcouch. Can you fix it? [15:41] Can I? [15:41] CardinalFang: we don't use pqm for desktopcouch [15:41] Oh. [15:43] CardinalFang: does that fix the tests that were failing in desktopcouch also? you and statik were looking at that, right? [15:44] dobey, No, it doesn't fix, AFAIK. I have a bug for that. [15:44] dobey, "Update this branch: You cannot upload to this branch. Members of Ubuntu One Control Tower can upload to this branch. " [15:45] CardinalFang: right, it's one of those projects we'll be managing with tarmac :) [15:45] CardinalFang: set the commit message in the merge proposal, and i can land it :) [15:45] CardinalFang, you get to ask kenvandine to merge it for you, or dobey, or me I think. We're the manual pqm. ;) [15:46] pqm is the manual pqm [15:46] * aquarius laughs [15:46] harsh but basically fair :) [15:47] as soon as we get an image built for running tarmac on though, landing branches in the clients will be automated [15:47] though the desktopcouch tests need to be fixed to pass first [15:48] dobey, Okay. commit message set. lp:~cmiller/desktopcouch/excise-temporary-views [15:48] https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~cmiller/desktopcouch/excise-temporary-views/+merge/9471 [15:49] CardinalFang: and we also don't need the [r=] bit for the client projects any more, tarmac handles reviewers automatically too :) [15:49] Ooo. [15:50] tarmac is still a mystery. I only know what it is because of the verb "land" that we use. [15:50] dobey, does it? it goes and looks in launchpad? that's pretty cool [15:51] CardinalFang: http://launchpad.net/tarmac [15:51] aquarius: yeah. i fixed it to store the reviewers, and the url to the merge proposal, inside revision properties when it commits [15:52] dobey, cor. Impressed. [15:52] dobey, why isn't everyone using it instead of pqm? [15:52] and...who built tarmac? was it rockstar? (was it you?) [15:52] mostly rockstar [15:53] but statik and myself have done a fair bit of hacking on it too [16:01] anyway, desktopcouch branches are landed [16:08] dobey: does https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client/+bug/363243 need repointing to ubuntuone-storage-protocol (which is where the stacktrace heads) [16:08] Launchpad bug 363243 in ubuntuone-client "No way to re-add a computer to your account" [High,Triaged] [16:09] (ignoring the title, and looking at the actual crash) [16:12] sladen: no [16:13] sladen: the u1sync --authorize specific issue is separate from the general issue of the report [16:30] please can somebody make #404093 public as there are bugs dupped to it [16:30] dobey: yeah, I think there's about 3 issues in there---and I don't claim to understand 363243 so I'll leave it [16:31] oh it's only got one dup [16:32] is public now [16:32] dobey: it sounds like it's the sae as #lefthandrighthand (which has 8 dups) [16:33] why are you typing "lefthandrighthand" instead of a number? [16:34] bug #375495 [16:34] Launchpad bug 375495 in ubunet "No change notification between webstorage(updown) and storagefs(fs-1)" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/375495 [16:35] DNS for bug reports; as in "the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing" [16:35] it's the nickname field---could be anything, but that sticks in my mind better than "oh, it's 1-2-3-4-5-6" [16:36] except i have no idea what you're talking about :) [16:36] https://launchpad.net/bugs/lefthandrighthand [16:37] mmm, the bot doesn't recognise that [16:38] probably a good thing [16:38] because i don't want to get flooded with 5000 lines of bot spam when someone pastes a link to the ui tag or something [16:39] oh [16:40] nicknames are ok i guess, unless lots of bugs end up having the same nickname [16:42] they can't, the whole point it's an easier-to-remember nickname [16:42] (hench setting it to something else with numbers, like a story board ID is almost as bad...) [16:45] i don't know about that [16:45] if it's a bug i'm looking at often, i end up remembering the number anyway [16:46] like the IOError: Interrupted system call or whatever due to poking STDERR when xdg-open succeeded, is #402091 [16:46] bug #lefthandrighthand [16:46] hrmm [16:47] it probably wants "bug #[0-9]+" [16:49] filed that https://launchpad.net/bugs/nicknamedbug [16:50] (bug #407402) [16:50] Launchpad bug 407402 in ubuntu-bots "ubottu does not recognise bugs with nicknames" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/407402 === BUGabundo1 is now known as BUGabundo === BUGabundo1 is now known as BUGabundo [21:08] hmmm, just copied about 1.7 gigs of files into my My Files folder, and now UbuntuOne is taking its sweet time uploading to the servers (~20 k/s, and I'm on a .edu LAN) [21:28] greg-g, k? kb or kB? [21:41] KB presumably [21:42] Either way, it's probably not great. [21:44] In my day we measured bandwidth in bits, and if we needed to talk about 8 at a time, we'd say "octets"! [21:44] * CardinalFang shakes his fist at the kids on his lawn. [21:50] CardinalFang: KiB/s [21:50] :) [21:56] CardinalFang: Sheer luxury. WHen I was a lad, we only had 4 bits. If we wanted more we had to buy a whole other computer [22:00] rmcbride: aye, ye had it well! we had to arrange pebbles in middle t'road, during rush hour === BUGabundo1 is now known as BUGabundo