[04:01] <Gabriel1> LET'S LEARN
[04:02] <Gabriel1> man learn
[04:02] <Gabriel1> sudo apt-get install learn?
[04:12] <doctormo> Gabriel1: sudo apt-get install everything
[04:36] <Gabriel1> so what exactly happens in this channel?
[04:44] <bodhizazen> This channel is for the UCLP
[04:44] <bodhizazen> The UCLP is still young +)
[04:44] <bodhizazen> how can we help you Gabriel1
[04:47] <Gabriel1> hi bodhi
[04:47] <Gabriel1> this is buuntu
[04:47] <bodhizazen> Ah, welcome =)
[05:03] <doctormo> Gabriel1: This is discussion
[05:03] <doctormo> bodhizazen: Did you read my section on strcture?
[05:05] <bodhizazen> yes, I took a brief look at it
[05:05] <bodhizazen> thank you
[05:05] <bodhizazen> I am a bit nervous about letting anyone join , I think we want to know who they are first
[05:06] <bodhizazen> which is not the same thing as being elitist or saying the process of joining needs to be burdensome
[05:07] <doctormo> bodhizazen: Why would you restrict? why do you need to know who someone is to be a student?
[05:07] <doctormo> bodhizazen: those groups are more like peer support channels, rather than production groups.
[05:08] <doctormo> bodhizazen: The main resources are going to be other students and other teachers, we need as many of them as possible.
[05:08] <bodhizazen> Well, one does not need to be on the team to be a student
[05:08] <bodhizazen> I consider team members people who want to contribute
[05:08] <bodhizazen> and if you are not careful you are going to get somebody you do not know
[05:08] <doctormo> bodhizazen: Ah right, then there is no group that I have proposed which is open to all and which is "in the team"
[05:08] <bodhizazen> join the team
[05:08] <bodhizazen> and then misbehave, and make the whole team look bad
[05:09] <doctormo> The user groups are more like LUGs, guys who use our stuff and a pool that we can get to know people from so they can move up the ranks.
[05:09] <doctormo> If we have no stepping stone, how can outsiders be tentative.
[05:09] <bodhizazen> I would agree with that doctormo
[05:10] <bodhizazen> but as far as some kind of "joining the team" I am suggesting we get to know who they are and how they wish to contribute
[05:10] <bodhizazen> user groups or students, that is different, and I see no restrictions to those groups
[05:10] <doctormo> My only concern really is that teachers be classed as contributors instead of users, blocking that group from growing.
[05:11] <bodhizazen> I am not following that last statement
[05:11] <bodhizazen> you want teachers to be in which group ?
[05:11] <bodhizazen> and which group is then blocked from growing ?
[05:12] <doctormo> bodhizazen: I want teachers to be treated as users, an open group. To which there may be a need for a closed group of contributing teachers that teach within the Ubuntu community.
[05:26] <bodhizazen> I am OK with that
[05:28] <bodhizazen> If we like we can make a main group , say UCLP
[05:28] <bodhizazen> this is a moderated group as outlined
[05:28] <bodhizazen> you can then make open user groups - students and teachers if you wish
[05:29] <bodhizazen> Then have the restricted groups - contributing teachers, site admins, art, content, add_as_many_as_needed
[06:01] <doctormo> bodhizazen: Aye ok, perhaps start off with classifcation groups and then work out if it grows much bigger and the mailing lists need more breathing room
[06:02] <doctormo> bodhizazen: As far as having a section lead, someone to be editor and publisher for each section we want to teach.
[06:02] <doctormo> Users, Contributors, Administrators, that should keep us for a while.