[00:00] <nevyn> goku12205: yes...
[00:00] <goku12205> how do i run an exploit against my desktop!!!
[00:00] <chetnick> i installed kubuntu-desktop on ubuntu, after logging in kubuntu it asked me to enter keyring pass or something like that, which i did. Now when i went back to ubuntu, it is asking me "Enter password for default keyring to unlock". I put the pass, but it is keep popping up, like it is wrong pass. How to get rid of that?
[00:00] <goku12205> i already have compiled it
[00:00] <iceroot> goku12205: stop that
[00:00] <bazhang> !ot | goku12205
[00:00] <joaopinto> goku12205, we already told tou, that question is not for this channel !
[00:00] <starwind> joaopinto I got the PPA's installed, added the key in terminal, then apt-get update, but I don't see firefox/minefield, did I do something wrong?
[00:01] <joaopinto> starwind, do: apt-cache policy firefox-3.6
[00:01] <moncky> !troll
[00:01] <esperanza> i need help with setting up compiz fusion on my computer
[00:01] <goku12205> what is a buffer overflow?
[00:01] <joaopinto> !ops | goku12205
[00:01] <mulle> do proftp use the normal users in ubuntu or has it own list
[00:01] <nevyn> I don
[00:02] <overclucker> goku12205, this is really not the right place for this
[00:02] <bazhang> goku12205, take that elsewhere
[00:02] <iceroot> mulle: its using system-users if they are in the ftp group
[00:02] <joaopinto> mulle, it depends on it is configured, check it's configuration
[00:02] <nevyn> overclucker: why not
[00:02] <goku12205> ok than how are you doing?
[00:02] <starwind> firefox-3.6:
[00:02] <starwind>   Installed: (none)
[00:02] <starwind>   Candidate: 3.6~a1~hg20090728r30800+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd1~jaunty
[00:02] <starwind>   Version table:
[00:02] <starwind>      3.6~a1~hg20090728r30800+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd1~jaunty 0
[00:02] <FloodBot1> starwind: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:02] <starwind>         500 http://ppa.launchpad.net jaunty/main Packages
[00:02] <esperanza> hey i need help with compiz fusion on a xfce desktop
[00:03] <starwind> err sorry
[00:03] <joaopinto> esperanza, better ask on #xubuntu
[00:03] <dementor> hi
[00:03] <iceroot> !details | esperanza
[00:03] <joaopinto> starcraftman, the package is available, just install it: sudo apt-get install firefox-3.6
[00:03] <dementor> i intsll monitorix but not work
[00:03] <dementor> :((
[00:03] <overclucker> nevyn, he is looking for help exploiting system, this channel deals with support related issues.
[00:03] <phyrrus> who wants to be a mod/admin on my site?
[00:04] <iceroot> !ot | phyrrus
[00:04] <phyrrus> woops, sorry if you do join my channel #ubhackers
[00:04] <esperanza> ubottu: i'm running xubuntu 9.04 and i need help setting up and using compiz fusion
[00:04] <starwind> ah I see
[00:04] <joaopinto> overclucker, it's about Ubuntu support, using the system, not about exploiting or hacking
[00:04] <bazhang> esperanza, do you have ccsm installed? let's join #compiz to discuss
[00:04] <overclucker> yup
[00:04] <illinvillain> I am having trouble setting up my nvidia driver, I can set my resolution to 1280x800 and everything works fine, but every time I restart it goes back to 800x600, any help would be greatly appreciated.
[00:05] <shingen> how can I change my /etc/init.d/apache2 to start tsocks before starting the daemon?
[00:05] <esperanza> bazhang: yes. hold on
[00:05] <nevyn> overclucker: let's just for a second assume it's as advertised.. in that case he needs help with using ubuntu for self education.
[00:05] <nevyn> how is that not support
[00:05] <joaopinto> shingen, edit the script and add whatever command you need ?
[00:05] <TwoToneSpirit> For many days, I've been looking for a way to share X applications (or, preferably, an entire workspace) on multiple computers at the same time.  I want each user to have independence, so VNC is not an option.  Among the hundreds of interesting pages I've looked into, I've found the following one.  Does anybody care to comment on the options it offers? http://www.faqs.org/faqs/x-faq/part6/section-4.html
[00:05] <iceroot> shingen: sudo vi /etc/init.d/apache2
[00:05] <overclucker> nevyn, we can contunue this on #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:06] <shingen> iceroot: need help on syntax...  trying to figure out where to put that
[00:06] <bazhang> phyrrus, please dont advertise here
[00:06] <joaopinto> shingen, tscoks is a client command, why would you want to call tsocks on apache start ?
[00:06] <joaopinto> tsocks
[00:07] <dementor> i install monitorix but not work
[00:07] <dementor> it has no graphics
[00:07] <shingen> joaopinto: because I have mysql services that can only be accessed through socks proxies
[00:07] <joaopinto> dementor, what is monitorix ? There is no such package
[00:08] <joaopinto> shingen, so you don't want to start tsocks before apache, tscoks is applied to a command, you want to run apache WITH tsocks
[00:08] <Lancearate> (reposted) I'm having difficulty with an intermittent hard crash in Ubuntu-9.04 AMD64 when attempting large file operations like backing up to a portable drive (every few minutes), or very intermittently (once or twice weekly) with regular use. Upon hard crash, the machine no longer accepts any incoming ssh connections or responds to existing ssh connections, and (as far as I know) the logs found in /var/log don't contain anyth
[00:08] <mulle> is there a better ftp program than proftp?
[00:08] <joaopinto> you need to find the apachectl start line on the apache script, and prefix it with "tsocks"
[00:08] <erUSUL> !ftpd > mulle
[00:08] <shingen> joaopinto: k
[00:08] <illinvillain> .
[00:08] <Proh> Shit fuck, does anyone have any idea what is wrong? "Buffer I/O error on device sr0"... I was getting this with discs and now I'm attempting to boot from usb
[00:09] <bazhang> Proh, watch the language
[00:09] <joaopinto> mulle, if you don't learn how to read their man page, none will be good for you
[00:09] <phyrrus> Proh: explain further
[00:09] <Proh> apologize ^_~
[00:09] <joaopinto> !language | Proh
[00:09] <illinvillain> can anyone help me with a xorg.conf prob?
[00:09] <godmodegrafix> lol
[00:09] <joaopinto> Proh, that is usually associated with a failed disk
[00:09] <Olof2> Hey ! just installed Ubuntu and need some help with dual-booting, can someone help?=)
[00:09] <phyrrus> does ubuntu boot?
[00:10] <phyrrus> what are you dual booting 0lof2?
[00:10] <Olof2> want to boot both ubuntu and windows
[00:10] <phyrrus> what version of both
[00:10] <godmodegrafix> how did you install ubuntu
[00:10] <Olof2> installed windows before ubuntu
[00:10] <mulle> ok
[00:11] <phyrrus> I need the versions and your problem
[00:11] <Olof2> windows xp , latest ubuntu version
[00:11] <godmodegrafix> lol
[00:11] <phyrrus> ok, whats the problem then
[00:11] <godmodegrafix> lol
[00:11] <Olof2> but grub only starts ubuntu
[00:11] <phyrrus> hm... 1 min
[00:11] <godmodegrafix> did you partition your drive when you installed ubuntu?
[00:11] <Olof2> need to "add" windows somehow
[00:11] <Olof2> yep
[00:11] <beatbreaker> how do i restart samba? i can't find /etc/rc.d ???
[00:11] <bazhang> !dualboot | Olof2
[00:11] <Proh> Alright:  I'm installing and right after it loads the installer, it starts activating the kernel and stuff, and there's when I'm getting the errors... Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block [integer]... SQUASHFS error: unable to read page block from 215f5cdd
[00:12] <bazhang> Olof2, do both boot? or is there a grub issue
[00:12] <fadzl_> why i cant update my pidgin
[00:12] <phyrrus> try this: without the #'s
[00:12] <Proh> But within all of these errors, it's still activating things... like swap, I noticed
[00:12] <phyrrus> # makeactive
[00:12] <phyrrus> #
[00:12] <phyrrus> # makeactive
[00:12] <godmodegrafix> haha
[00:12] <phyrrus> #
[00:12] <fadzl_> still 2.5.4
[00:12] <FloodBot1> phyrrus: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:12] <joaopinto> !pastebin | phyrrus
[00:13] <joaopinto> fadzl_, after a final release packages are only updated with security or critical fixes
[00:13] <godmodegrafix> olof2: how did you install ubuntu? through live cd?
[00:13] <phyrrus> just add a boot commabnd for windows but I reccommend boot.ini
[00:13] <beatbreaker> how do i restart samba? i can't find /etc/rc.d ???
[00:13] <fadzl_> with security
[00:13] <sfmadmax> /etc/init.d/samba
[00:13] <beatbreaker> sfmadmax: thanks
[00:13] <Olof2> a external disk
[00:14] <beatbreaker> sfmadmax: sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart ??
[00:14] <godmodegrafix> have you removed it?
[00:14] <Olof2> y
[00:14] <joaopinto> beasty, or just : sudo service samba restart
[00:14] <godmodegrafix> make sure whatever you used to install ubuntu is removed at boot
[00:15] <fernando_37> server libres.irc-hispano.org
[00:15] <godmodegrafix> well make sure its removed even before you turn on your pc
[00:15] <godmodegrafix> if you used a CD, remove the CD.. if you used a flash drive, remove it..etc
[00:16] <Guest74437> hay is IPTables good for a ubuntu linux 9.04 home user
[00:16] <Proh> now I get: init: tty6 main process ended, respawning
[00:16] <bazhang> Olof2, are you able to boot both? or is there a grub error
[00:16] <godmodegrafix> guest74437: do you plan on using it for networking?
[00:17] <Olof2> the problem is that i can't choose to boot windows
[00:17] <Proh> tty3 now, but they're also beeing terminated with status 1
[00:17] <bazhang> Olof2, then you need to update grub
[00:17] <GaijinD> Hey, I've got a weird problem when trying to add a networked printer.
[00:17] <bazhang> !grub | Olof2 please read this
[00:17] <Guest74437> I just need to know if anything that i do need something that will let me know if i am being hack/crack
[00:17] <Olof2> kk thanks =D
[00:18] <bazhang> Guest74437, you can use gufw or firestarter if you dont wish to use iptables via command line
[00:18] <godmodegrafix> iptables wont do that
[00:18] <nevyn> Guest74437: firewalls are one element of security strategy they're not the be all and end all tho
[00:19] <Guest74437> ok but i am a home user but i need to to test my os/ubuntu linux9.04 to see if i am being crack/hack
[00:20] <rubyist> hey
[00:20] <rubyist> i need python2.4-gtk2 deb package, where can i get it?
[00:20] <rubyist> apt-get says it is referred to by another package.. etc
[00:20] <godmodegrafix> why do you think you're being hacked?
[00:20] <Guest74437> i dont
[00:21] <godmodegrafix> you just want to be safe?
[00:21] <Guest74437> but it is good to know if i am '''
[00:21] <godmodegrafix> ok....well you can use kismet to see whos on your network
[00:21] <godmodegrafix> netstat
[00:21] <bazhang> !firestarter | Guest74437
[00:21] <nevyn> Guest74437: aide provides a mechinism to verify binaries on your system havnt been modified
[00:21] <joaopinto> rubyist, such an old version is no longer available
[00:22] <bazhang> Guest74437, please have a look at those links
[00:22] <Guest74437> are thay free
[00:22] <dirtbag666> hi there
[00:22] <bazhang> Guest74437, yes of course
[00:22] <godmodegrafix> yes
[00:23] <jwyanze> hello all
[00:23] <GaijinD> I'm trying to add a networked printer via the Printer configuration tool, but whenever I try to navigate to it the window just closes.
[00:23] <jwyanze> how do i output everything on the terminal to a file
[00:24] <person> Hello
[00:24] <dirtbag666> I've got a huge problem: I just accidentally deleted from an external hard drive (vfat). Now I'm trying to recover the date using FOREMOST. Unfortunately it always tries to read from stdin ("Processing: stdin") although I ran: sudo foremost -v -t jpg -i /dev/scd0
[00:24] <dirtbag666> ANY ideas?
[00:24] <Hagbard__> anyone know where to find .emacs file?
[00:24] <jwyanze> someone told me | tee file.txt but that does not seem to work unless the command is completed successfuly
[00:25] <joaopinto> jwyanze, you need to do 2>&1, errors use a different file description
[00:25] <jwyanze> Hagbard__: do u have it installed
[00:25] <nevyn> joaopinto: try typescript
[00:25] <joaopinto> jwyanze, you need to force errors to go to stdout
[00:25] <person> I'm disabling some services; the app I'm using is warning me that disabling avahi daemon may affect system behaviour in several ways, possibly leading to data loss.
[00:25] <joaopinto> nevyn, uh ?
[00:25] <person> But it's nothing to worry about, is it? I can just disable it, right?
[00:25] <nevyn> joaopinto: typescript or script captures a pty session
[00:25] <Lancearate> (reposted) I'm having difficulty with an intermittent hard crash in Ubuntu-9.04 AMD64 when attempting large file operations like backing up to a portable drive (every few minutes), or very intermittently (once or twice weekly) with regular use. Upon hard crash, the machine no longer accepts any incoming ssh connections or responds to existing ssh connections, and (as far as I know) the logs found in /var/log don't contain anyth
[00:25] <Hagbard__> jwaynze yes
[00:26] <nevyn> joaopinto: oops bad complete
[00:26] <jwyanze> joaopinto: how am i doing that
[00:26] <sebsebseb> hi
[00:26] <Hagbard__> i'm actually trying to get slime working, but i think i need to edit my .emacs file
[00:26] <nevyn> jwyanze: you try script or typescript
[00:26] <gandalfcome> Lancearate: have you looked at dmesg?
[00:27] <Lancearate> gandalfcome: what specifically would I be looking for in /var/log/dmesg?
[00:27] <Guest74437> \ok will any one who know what to do about how to setup this stuff for me so i can look to see if i am being crack in or not
[00:27] <bazhang> Guest74437, did you read those links?
[00:27] <Guest74437> yes
[00:28] <jwyanze> what do u mean nevyn
[00:28] <gonzo> me he caido
[00:28] <gandalfcome> Lancearate: If there's anything that coincides with the crash. I just have harddrive troubles as well and found things in dmesg.
[00:28] <Guest74437> but i dont know if i have port's
[00:28] <bazhang> Guest74437, of course you do
[00:28] <Guest74437> ok
[00:28] <gonzo> alguien me sabria ayudar cn mi problema
[00:29] <Guest74437> but i am not sure what ports
[00:29] <bazhang> gonzo, english here #ubuntu-es por espanol
[00:29] <Guest74437> 53
[00:29] <nevyn> jwyanze: the package typescript captures all input/ouput from a terminal session
[00:29] <jwyanze> this is the command i issued (ine /media/disk/Star* | tee ~/Desktop/logfile.txt)
[00:30] <jwyanze> is it installed by default or do i have to install it
[00:30] <nevyn> jwyanze: but that's not capturing output on failure so there are a few options
[00:30] <GaijinD> It's being shared by a Win XP system; I click on "new printer," select "Windows Printer via SAMBA" and click browse. I'm able to see the network and the PC it's being shared from, but trying to expand the tree further causes all of the Printer configuration windows to close.
[00:30] <nevyn> jwyanze: you'll need to install it.. but I may have a wrong idea on what you want to achieve
[00:30] <Shino__> how do i log in as root?
[00:30] <godmodegrafix> shino
[00:30] <godmodegrafix> are you admin?
[00:31] <person> Cheese is recording terribly slowly on my Acer One with an SSD; do I need to relocate its config directory to tmpfs?
[00:31] <Shino__> im trying to run a command
[00:31] <Shino__> yes
[00:31] <Shino__> i am
[00:31] <sebsebseb> !sudo |  Shino__
[00:31] <WindowsUser> ubuntu has a sudo hardon
[00:31] <godmodegrafix> then just type sudo before command
[00:31] <Lancearate> gandalfcome: what for example did you find?
[00:31] <godmodegrafix> lol
[00:31] <Lancearate> gandalfcome: I'm not very technically minded, but I don't see anything that screams out to me as a problem
[00:31] <bazhang> WindowsUser, no need for that here
[00:31] <gandalfcome> Lancearate: I found: invalid opcode: 0000 [#1] SMP
[00:32] <overclucker> shino, do you actually need to log in as 'root'?
[00:32] <jwyanze> nevyn: well i launch a program and it had a crash with no error prompt so i want to launch it through the terminal and output the log from start up to thepoint where it crashed to a file
[00:32] <WindowsUser> bazhang: :)
[00:32] <overclucker> sudo su -, will treat it as a login shell
[00:32] <Lancearate> gandalfcome: I don't see anything like that, no
[00:32] <bazhang> overclucker, sudo -i
[00:32] <dementor> ok i instal cacti but o have no graph
[00:33] <overclucker> sudo i too?
[00:33] <overclucker> i mean -i
[00:33] <bazhang> overclucker, please dont recommend the other here
[00:33] <nevyn> jwyanze: ok program 2>>&1 |tee file
[00:33] <gandalfcome> Lancearate: Your system completely crashes doesnt it. Mine, its only the hard drive that becomes unresponsive.
[00:33] <overclucker> ah, mkay
[00:33] <godmodegrafix> hey overclucker, im reading the LFS book, and im downloading everything i need..however im having difficulty finding glibc in the package manager
[00:34] <jwyanze> nevyn: this is what i had program | tee ~/Desktop/logfile.txt
[00:34] <overclucker> read books into
[00:34] <FloridaGuy> ? does ubuntu have any command other the nvidia-xconfig
[00:34] <nevyn> jwyanze: that'll only output stdout not stderr
[00:34] <Lancearate> gandalfcome: I think so, yes. I've never seen ubuntu-linux not print out some sort of error message upon crash so I'm not sure what it's happening
[00:34] <overclucker> godmodegrafix, read the book's intro
[00:34] <jwyanze> what is std
[00:34] <bazhang> FloridaGuy, install nvidia-settings
[00:34] <jwyanze> i under stand what u men
[00:35] <godmodegrafix> i read it, but Glibc-2.2.5 doesnt appear in the package manager
[00:35] <godmodegrafix> i found everything except that
[00:35] <godmodegrafix> all i found was the documentation for it
[00:35] <nevyn> jwyanze: STDOUT is the output from normal running of a program STDERR is the error log
[00:35] <FloridaGuy> bazhang, i said other then nvida-xconfig.....that is part of nvidia-settings
[00:35] <overclucker> godmodegrafix, also, i  believe they provide support at irc.linuxfromscratch.org
[00:35] <godmodegrafix> thanks
[00:36] <bazhang> FloridaGuy, not that I am aware of
[00:36] <slipttees> sis191 issue :-(
[00:36] <bazhang> slipttees, bios bug?
[00:36] <slipttees> very slow connection
[00:36] <slipttees> sis191 ethernet
[00:37] <slipttees> bazhang: yeah, bug on f%%k bios
[00:37] <bazhang> slipttees, no driver? not recognized? what is the issue; please clarify
[00:37] <slipttees> search update !
[00:37] <bazhang> slipttees, no need for that language
[00:37] <slipttees> bazhang: i am check, show me use sis190 driver
[00:37] <jwyanze> what i really mean is what the acronym stderr means(i understand what it does)
[00:37] <MEGApancakes> for some reason lalberath mind mapping is not working
[00:37] <omarthamer> hi need help in Xview application
[00:38] <mattparry> Hi, whats the development IRC for kubuntu called? does anyone know?
[00:38] <gandalfcome> Lancearate: I always found these problems hard to debug. I can only give you some pointers that MIGHT help: Do a memorytest, think about your powersupply and see if the system has enough power, try to find a way to replicate the error everytime ....
[00:38] <omarthamer> any one can help
[00:38] <slipttees> bazhang: very slow connection in the sis191 ethernet
[00:38] <ShadowAp3x> Lancearate: I would also try doing the transfer over a livecd to see if it is software-related or hardware-related
[00:38] <slipttees> i can ping every website,  can surf on ff or use apt-get
[00:39] <slipttees>  cant surf**
[00:39] <bazhang> slipttees, dns issue?
[00:39] <Lancearate> ShadowAp3x: Actually, I just tried that - Same hard crash. Like I said, the result is repeatable when performing large file operations (e.g.: backups)
[00:40] <slipttees> nope, i'm have a route, now i'm surf on web
[00:40] <MEGApancakes> laberath mind mapping is not opening when i click on it
[00:40] <MEGApancakes> can anyone please help
[00:40] <Lancearate> gandalfcome: the computer's up-time with Windows Vista was rather exemplary (many months), so I've reason to believe this is not a hardware problem
[00:40] <omarthamer> hi i need some help in xview application
[00:40] <bazhang> slipttees, this is via a proxy? what route do you speak of
[00:40] <ShadowAp3x> Lancearate: Definitely sounds hardware related. I would try what gandalfcome recommended and run memtest or hardware tests
[00:40] <slipttees> huawei mt800
[00:40] <janisoza1r> with recent (yesterday or so) adobe flash update, how do you find fullscreen video on youtube (on x64)? has it improved?
[00:41] <bazhang> slipttees, a router?
[00:41] <slipttees> yes via a proxy !
[00:41] <Lancearate> ShadowAp3x: I'll run memtest on the host machine. How long does one normally run memtest to check for instability?
[00:41] <bazhang> slipttees, a usb router/modem via a proxy?
[00:41] <jwyanze> nevyn: i got a "bad syntax error unexpected token `&'
[00:41] <ShadowAp3x> Lancearate: Depends on how much memory you have but usually around 30 mins or so
[00:41] <Lancearate> ShadowAp3x: 4 gigabytes?
[00:42] <nevyn> ummm
[00:42] <jwyanze> nevyn: u mean &&
[00:42] <slipttees> bazhang: sorry, modem huawei mt800+gateway server
[00:42] <nevyn> no...
[00:42]  * nevyn tests
[00:42] <slipttees> +proxy transparent
[00:42] <ShadowAp3x> Lancearate: Most likely > 30mins
[00:42] <Lancearate> ShadowAp3x: I'll be back in an hour, then. Thanks for your help
[00:42] <ShadowAp3x> n
[00:42] <ShadowAp3x> p
[00:42] <slipttees> bazhang: i can ping everything, but i cant surf on FF
[00:43] <gandalfcome> I get an unresponsive hdd under 8.04 when rsyncing data from one to another drive. The dmesg output I get starts with invalid opcode: 0000 [#1] SMP. I have googled the problem and saw that this is an reported error. Can someone confirm this?
[00:43] <botnetuser> laberath mind mapping is not working when i click on it
[00:43] <omarthamer> guys any help in xview bugs
[00:43] <nevyn> I hate shell redirection
[00:43] <bazhang> slipttees, so your computer shows you as being connecting but you cannot access any of the internet, with the exception of irc
[00:43] <slipttees> bazhang: proxy allow all access from my laptop's
[00:44] <jwyanze> lol
[00:44] <slipttees> bazhang: 2 laptop ! 1 work fine the other no work !
[00:44] <antonio__> hi there
[00:45] <bazhang> slipttees, has the non-working one every worked?
[00:45] <nevyn> jwyanze: I had an extra >
[00:45] <GaijinD> Never mind. I seem to have fixed things in a roundabout manner.
[00:45] <slipttees> yes
[00:45] <nevyn> jwyanze: so it's program 2>&1 |tee file
[00:45] <jwyanze> yea that works
[00:45] <slipttees> bazhang: yes bro
[00:46] <jwyanze> but to me seen cmd with 2 >> already (whats different now)
[00:46] <antonio__> have a problem with my video card, an ati radeon 9200 SE, yesterday I replaced my old voodoo3 with this card and ubuntu 8.10 recognised it, then I tried to change the driver and after that was not able to recover the working configuration
[00:46] <slipttees> bazhang: bcm4213 work on eth0 :-\ sis191 work with sis190 driver on eth1
[00:47] <antonio__> now I'm without x server, someone can help? is there a way to copy the configuration created wih live ?
[00:47] <nevyn> jwyanze: I can't parse your last sentance.
[00:48] <slipttees> bazhang: thx for support, i want sleep little bit
[00:48] <MidasManchu> hi guys, i'm looking for a backup solution similar to rsync that backs up files, yet leaves them on the server in a compressed format.  Anyone know of anything?
[00:48] <slipttees> thx, i'll search about in jedi google
[00:48] <slipttees> ^^
[00:48] <slipttees> later all
[00:49] <FloridaGuy> how do i get out of xserver and go to cli
[00:49] <jwyanze> nevyn: i have seen commands with >> before i was wondering why it wont work here or if all the other times i have seen it it was wrong
[00:49] <janisoza1r> FloridaGuy: alt-ctrl-f1 ... -f6
[00:49] <janisoza1r> FloridaGuy: to get back to x, switch to tty7
[00:49] <nevyn> jwyanze: ok >> appends to a file
[00:49] <janisoza1r> FloridaGuy: that is -f7
[00:50] <MidasManchu> note that alt-ctrl fkeys don't exit out of X
[00:50] <nevyn> jwyanze: because in this case we're re-directing streams > is the correct operator
[00:50] <th0r> MidasManchu: why not just use tar.gz?
[00:50] <nevyn> jwyanze: it's being used in a different context
[00:50] <antonio__> someone know about x server configuraztion recovery?
[00:50] <FloridaGuy> janisoza1r, that wont lever the xserver runing at all
[00:50] <janisoza1r> FloridaGuy: note what MidasManchu said
[00:50] <ShadowAp3x> FloridaGuy: do: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[00:51] <ShadowAp3x> after going to tty1 (by pressing ctrl-alt-f1)
[00:51] <jwyanze> nevyn: oh ok
[00:51] <Quantix> Hey guys anybody here know of a good external hard drive that is ubuntu compatible?
[00:51] <MidasManchu> th0r, the main reason is that I add and delete files regularly and care about a current snapshot more than whether my files are erased
[00:51] <FloridaGuy> Xorg -configure .....Fatal server error: Server is already active for display 0
[00:51] <ShadowAp3x> Quantix: any external hdd should work with Ubuntu
[00:52] <FloridaGuy> thats why i want out of xserver
[00:52] <th0r> MidasManchu: yeah, but you can write a script easy enough that would tar and gzip the files you are interested in, and mark the tar.gz with the time and date in the filename
[00:52] <ShadowAp3x> FloridaGuy: did you kill GDM?
[00:52] <Quantix> ShadoowAp3x: Really? Because ive already had compatibility issues with an mp3 player, and a router. So i want to make sure it doesn't happen again.
[00:52] <bastidrazor> antonio__, sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg  will re-detect but not recover. this command could get you back in the GUI though.
[00:52] <nevyn> Quantix: filesystems get kinda interesting tho.
[00:52] <janisoza1r> FloridaGuy: kill the gdm
[00:52] <cjae> I have a lvm question, I have three hard disks one with / and swap on non-lvm partitions, and the remainder of that drive plus the other two need to be ext4 with a mount point of /home, I have the physical partitions created with lvmbuntu as the volume group, but I am not sure how to make them ext4 with a mount point of /home
[00:52] <ShadowAp3x> FloridaGuy: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[00:52] <janisoza1r> with recent (yesterday or so) adobe flash update, how do you find fullscreen video on youtube (on x64)? has it improved?
[00:52] <Quantix> What about an external hardrive that is just a harddrive with an enclosure?
[00:53] <antonio__> ok, will try
[00:53] <MidasManchu> th0r, I suppose it's worth a shot.  Thanks
[00:53] <nevyn> Quantix: that'll work
[00:53] <ShadowAp3x> Quantix: Ubuntu should be able to read any fs that Windows can
[00:53] <FloridaGuy> ShadowAp3x, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop...to restart it...would it be gdm start
[00:53] <ShadowAp3x> Quantix: only ones you have to worry about are proprietary ones that need software to access (such as mp3 players)
[00:53] <nevyn> ShadowAp3x: and with ntfs-3g it can even write them all
[00:53] <th0r> MidasManchu: you want it compressed, right? you can run the script in cron and have it backup every five minutes if you like
[00:54] <janisoza1r> FloridaGuy: exactly. if you type the argument wrong, it should list possible options
[00:54] <Quantix> ShadowAp3x: Oh okay got it. So an external hard drive that is plug and play in windows should be fine in Ubuntu?
[00:54] <MidasManchu> th0r, yeah, I think that's what I'll do.
[00:54] <ShadowAp3x> FloridaGuy: to start it, yeah, you would add start instead of stop
[00:54] <Dr_Willis> Quantix:  i use external ntfs disks all the time.
[00:54] <LinuX2half> Why my screen remain dark after suspension?
[00:54] <ubuntu> Quantix, yes
[00:54] <ShadowAp3x> Quantix: yeah
[00:54] <th0r> MidasManchu: consider using bzip instead of gzip...much tighter compression, tar.bz files
[00:54] <Quantix> Thanks! Just making sure i don't buy something that isn't compatible...
[00:54] <Quantix> Again!
[00:55] <th0r> MidasManchu: or is that tar.bz2?
[00:55] <MidasManchu> th0r, I might just use 7zip and get the max compression
[00:55] <rubyist> i need to get some old python2.4 packages, is there any repository i can use? (arch amd64)
[00:55] <Quantix> Oh and another thing....since my router is incompatible im going to buy a new one, any suggestions?
[00:55] <nevyn> Quantix: out of curiousity what did you buy that didn't work?
[00:55] <solexious> If I make a new pc with 3 nvidia cards with dual dvi outputs, can ubuntu handle all 6 screens? not with dual view?
[00:55] <ithicine> Quantix: you might also want to avoid external HDDs that claim encryption as a feature... a lot of cheap USB HDDs require special windows-only software to access them.  It should be possible to make them work, but it's unnecessary trouble.  Also, you may find the backup buttons don't work
[00:55] <janisoza1r> rubyist: have you tried PPAs?
[00:55] <LinuX2half> I can't bright up the screen and the screen is pitch black.
[00:55] <MidasManchu> th0r, I might actually even skip rsync and just scp the files over
[00:56] <rubyist> janisoza1r: PPA's?
[00:56] <janisoza1r> !ppa | rubyist
[00:56] <Dr_Willis> solexious:   should be able to.  there may be some issues.. but Twinview is very well done.
[00:56] <LinuX2half> Someone said that my there's something wrong with my BIOs that Linux had trouble with
[00:56] <ChrisR> Help , I am looking to recruit a advanced Ubuntu User to Setup a Secure Server to host Voice n Streaming Server. Please only experienced n serious inquiries
[00:56] <Quantix> A Netgear wpn824 V3 router. Stupid peice of shit only works with windows computers. Can't make it work with wii, zune, iphone, or linux laptops. Searched through forums, tried many different settings. Theres no hope.
[00:56] <cjae> so it is sda1 = /, sda2 = swap sda3,4,5 are extended logical sda6 =/home (and one part of lvm)(lvmbuntu is volume group), sdc5 =lvm(lvmbuntu) and sdb =lvm (lvmbuntu) but now I need filesystems on the lvmbuntu group that is ext4
[00:56] <janisoza1r> rubyist: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas
[00:56] <th0r> MidasManchu: oh...I thought the files resided on the same server with the backup. But still, you could script the whole operation
[00:56] <Quantix> Also a samsung p2...but i got that working.
[00:56] <colloguy> how do I temporarily change my primary group? Like sudo but for groups. I don't wanna lose my environment using newgrp : /
[00:56] <nevyn> Quantix: umm it has ethernet right?
[00:56] <ithicine> Quantix: any regular old USB HDD will work, as they present themselves to the operating system as mass storage devices.
[00:57] <solexious> Dr_Willis, does twinview allow each screen to have its own compiz cube?
[00:57] <michael> I have an unknown file type and I need help opening it please
[00:57] <cjae> solexious, yes
[00:57] <rubyist> janisoza1r: damn.. not there :(
[00:57] <dewc> try the command "file"
[00:58] <dewc> michael: file nameoffilehere
[00:58] <Dr_Willis> solexious:  never noticed.. i find the cube totally useless.
[00:58] <dewc> see if that yields and results
[00:58] <Dr_Willis> solexious:  proberly one of the most useless things ive seen in compiz :)
[00:58] <ithicine> michael: what is the filename
[00:58] <ChrisR> Can Some please tell where i can find a experienced Ubuntu User that I can recruit to setup a server. Or at least documentation on how to
[00:58] <MidasManchu> th0r, they are, however rsync would try to re sync the files again correct?  if they're compressed, rsync will see them as not there and try again?
[00:58] <michael> gave x86 boot sector guys
[00:58] <rubyist> janisoza1r: any other ideas
[00:58] <solexious> Dr_Willis, heh, well if not the cube specificity then desktops?
[00:58] <cjae> so would it be mkfs ext4 /dev/lvmbuntu /home?
[00:59] <janisoza1r> rubyist: compile from source
[00:59] <Quantix> Got to go sorry guys.
[00:59] <godmodegrafix> later everyone!
[00:59] <rubyist> janisoza1r: alright
[00:59] <ultraz> Hello, does anyone know how to colorize [ OK ] during boot, like in other distros ?
[00:59] <th0r> MidasManchu: yeah....I don't think you want rsync unless you are happy with just one backup...then rsync would see a newer version of the file and sync it
[00:59] <janisoza1r> rubyist: use checkinstall
[00:59] <Dr_Willis> solexious:  you need to clarify exactly what you are trying to do..  I use 2 monitors (1 video card) all the time. I have Twinview set up so i have one 'wide' desktop spanning both.
[00:59] <Guyver> hey
[00:59] <Guest74437> who is good at this in home security for ubuntu linux 9.04.so i can get a person to help me out .
[00:59] <LinuX2half> why my screen turned dark after suspension?
[00:59] <Guyver> that's a secret
[01:00] <michael> you didn't accidently press the windows key and m did you?
[01:00] <michael> \
[01:00] <janisoza1r> michael: what happens then?
[01:00] <solexious> Dr_Willis, if you maxamise a window, does it stay on one screen, or span both?
[01:00] <Guest74437> i want to be safe from anybody trying to hack/crack my os
[01:01] <Dr_Willis> solexious:  it fullscreens to the monitor it is on in most cases.. some very badly written apps can get confused and try both.
[01:01] <janisoza1r> Guest74437: disconnect from the internet
[01:01] <Guest74437> no
[01:01] <ShadowAp3x> @janisoza1r: lmao
[01:01] <michael> it gave me:  file DC3DFC09.001
[01:01] <bazhang> Guest74437, yes, and I gave you links to deal with that; please stop repeating
[01:01] <bastidrazor> Guest37787, create a strong password for your user account and do not enable root.. you are safe.
[01:01] <michael> DC3DFC09.001: x86 boot sector; partition 1: ID=0x6, active, starthead 1, startsector 63, 433692 sectors; partition 2: ID=0xf, starthead 0, startsector 433755, 19567170 sectors
[01:01] <Dr_Willis> solexious:  i have the video player fullscreened on monitor #2 most of the time.. and normal desktp on  #1
[01:01] <ChrisR> has ubuntu fixed their flash problems since 8.10?
[01:01] <janisoza1r> Guest74437: then consider yourself unsafe
[01:01] <Guest74437> i want to look to see if i am being crak
[01:01] <cjae> anyone
[01:01] <nevyn> bastidrazor: maybe
[01:01] <bazhang> Guest74437, please stop repeating
[01:01] <solexious> Dr_Willis, ok, that sounds what i need, thanks
[01:01] <Dr_Willis> Guest74437:  what even makes you think you are under 'attack'
[01:01] <cjae> no lvm heads in here?
[01:02] <Guest74437> it is safe than sorry
[01:02] <Dr_Willis> solexious:  start with 2. work your way up.
[01:02] <coleys> ikonia: Whats up :)
[01:02] <Dr_Willis> Guest74437:  so you are just being paranoid -  You have no real indication that anything is wrong?
[01:02] <ChrisR> run a firewall and it will show you all your connections, and password your root account and you should be fine Guest
[01:02] <Guest74437> no i am not
[01:02] <nevyn> Guest74437: being paranoid is a vaulable survival instinct.. however you need to understand the risks and their probabilities.
[01:02] <ShadowAp3x> Guest74437: Firestarter is a good firewall
[01:03] <solexious> Dr_Willis, yep, starting with 2, its a triple sli motherboard so im just thinking of the future ;)
[01:03]  * Dr_Willis finds often things 'new users' try to do to make things more secure.. actually have the opposite effect.
[01:03] <nevyn> don't password your root account if you wnat to be secure
[01:03] <ChrisR> That's what I used on the last distro is Firestarter worked great
[01:03] <Dr_Willis> solexious:  you must have a large desk.. and i HOPE you got a big powersupply
[01:03] <nevyn> create an additional account without sudo access... and use this for day to day activities
[01:03] <Guest74437> well i have read what yall have sent to me but i need to have a person to help me out
[01:03] <cjae> firestarters gui sucks
[01:03] <Dr_Willis> solexious:  i can imagine the fan noise from 3 video cards.
[01:04] <Guest74437> i dont want a outher kiven mittnick trying to hack my os
[01:04] <Dr_Willis> Guest74437:  help you out what what specifically?  'how to lock down a ubuntu box?'  or somthing more specific?
[01:04] <Dr_Willis> Guest74437:  dont run any services you dont need (thats  the normal default)  and you are fairly safe.
[01:04] <Dr_Willis> Guest74437:  keep up to date on updates also.
[01:04] <LinuX2half> Guest74437:  Hm, try to install LIDS
[01:04] <Dr_Willis> !info LIDS
[01:05] <solexious> Dr_Willis, ive got my server rack in the study so more noise wont bother me much :) and im getting a 850w "quad sli" powersupply, and its going to be pxe boot, so no hd power/noise
[01:05] <bazhang> Guest74437, reading the documentation first; then ask detailed questions.
[01:06] <Guest74437> well i have read but i dont know what i am doing
[01:06] <Dr_Willis> Guest74437:  then i would say leave the defaults alone. You are proberlya s safe as you are going to get.
[01:06] <janisoza1r> Guest74437: how can you be sure that you're safe then?
[01:06] <Guest74437> i need it to look for ports and more that that
[01:06] <elplatt> i need some help configuring my monitor
[01:06] <ChrisR> ok let me try this in lamens terms, i am looking to pay someone to setup a ubuntu server for voice n video streaming, anyone interested get back to me
[01:06]  * solexious watches paint dry, aka, cat /proc/mdstat
[01:06] <waffle> what is the best IDE for the begeaning programer
[01:06] <gluonman> When running firefox in gdb, I get the output posted at http://paste.ubuntu.com/240344/. Firefox crashes and spits out a Segmentation Fault message.
[01:06] <LinuX2half> Guest74437: Install Selinux
[01:06] <Guest74437> what is it
[01:07] <Kveldulf> i could use help, am having problems with installing nvidia drivers
[01:07] <Dr_Willis> Guest74437:  if theres no services running.. then you got no ports that are 'open'  try some of the port scannign web sites to check.
[01:07] <janisoza1r> Kveldulf: what exactly?
[01:07] <ChrisR> check shields up for a great port scanner
[01:07] <LinuX2half> Guest74437: Security Enhanced Linux
[01:07] <nevyn> ChrisR: does it need to be onsite if so a rough location would be helpful
[01:07] <ChrisR> No remote access only
[01:07] <Dr_Willis> SELinux - for the truely paranoid. :)  its amazing in ways.. and truely annoying in many others. heh.
[01:08] <LinuX2half> Guest74437:  its for advanced users
[01:08] <Guest74437> what i need is something that will let me know if i am being hack into
[01:08] <elplatt> i've got a widescreen samsung monitor (1440x900) but that resolution isn't available in the display prefs
[01:08] <ShadowAp3x> ChrisR: What kind of voice and video streaming specifically?
[01:08] <Guest74437> and from  where it is comeing from
[01:08] <ChrisR> Firestarter Firewall Guest74437 n Peerguardian2
[01:08] <nevyn> Dr_Willis: I'm using selinux for a job currently.
[01:08] <DiViN3> hello i need help
[01:08] <Dr_Willis> Guest74437:  Normaly thats not possible. If theres no servies installed.. theres no way to get in. Unless you do somthing to  let them in.
[01:09] <Dr_Willis> Guest74437:  you are thinking  linux is like 'windows' - Its not. :)
[01:09] <ChrisR> ShadowAp3x, Need to setup Ventrillo , Teamspeak, Skype FME & Skype & Thunderbird and basic secuirty protocols
[01:09] <nevyn> ChrisR: is the design right.
[01:09] <DaZ> only ubuntu tries to be like windows <:
[01:09] <richardcavell> Dr_Willis: Is there any way to get in other than tcp/udp?
[01:09] <ChrisR> this will be a fresh install of recommendation, I have 8.10 n then newest on cde
[01:09] <ShadowAp3x> ChrisR: All server components?
[01:09] <LinuX2half> Guest74437:  how about kfsmd?
[01:09] <Guest74437> but even hacker can hack into a linux os.I have read it
[01:09] <Dr_Willis> richardcavell:  someone sneaking in to the house? :)
[01:09] <richardcavell> Dr_Willis: yeah
[01:09] <ChrisR> FTP isn't neccesary
[01:10] <elplatt> anyone know why the correct resolution wouldn't be listed in prefs?
[01:10] <ChrisR> Just needs to have the apps i mentioned and security inplace
[01:10] <Kveldulf> 8.04
[01:10] <Dr_Willis> Guest74437:    the hacker hacks in using some exploit  of a service normally, or kernel exploit.. if theres no services.. theres no door to get in.
[01:10] <nevyn> Guest74437: if someone with enough resources want's in you're screwed
[01:10] <nevyn> Guest74437: this is true of all security
[01:10] <Dr_Willis> Guest74437:  you as a 'uneducated user' are proberly more dangerous to the working of your system then any hackers finding your ip at random.
[01:11] <Guest74437> so yes anything can be hack
[01:11] <Kai`> !setinfo <Dr_Willis> Guest74437:  you as a 'uneducated user' are proberly more dangerous to the working of your system then any hackers finding your ip at random.
[01:11] <ShadowAp3x> ChrisR: What kind of security are you looking for in particular?
[01:11] <nevyn> Guest74437: If you are a definite target.. in that you have resources worth protecting.. measures should be taken...
[01:11] <DaZ> Guest74437: : on the  pwn 2 own no one  hacked laptop with ubuntu
[01:11] <elplatt> anyone here that can help me with my monitor configuration?
[01:11] <DaZ> maybe the prize wasn't wort it, but it doesn't change the fact ;f
[01:12] <ShadowAp3x> ChrisR: Is the server these applications are hosted on at a private location behind a firewall?
[01:12] <nevyn> however... the cost of taking those measures needs to be weighed against the potential loss and probability of being attacked
[01:12] <Dr_Willis> Guest74437:  then with that logic - nothing you do will matter..
[01:12] <richardcavell> DaZ: were there any services running on that laptop?
[01:12] <ChrisR> Basic security and protect root account with dependable firewall, and yes it's behind a cisco router
[01:12] <DiViN3> anyone here can help me
[01:12] <tiPPy> hey guys :P
[01:12] <sebsebseb> DiViN3: with what?
[01:12] <sebsebseb> !details |  DiViN3
[01:12] <DaZ> richardcavell: default i think
[01:12] <Guest74437> that is why i am asking if yall know what program will test out any and all thing that can be hack into
[01:12] <DiViN3> sebsebseb : i am having a error msg in my server
[01:12] <richardcavell> DaZ: so no services running
[01:13] <ShadowAp3x> ChrisR: Are you unable to set up these applications yourself?
[01:13] <ChrisR> It's been so long since i've compiled packages bit rusty
[01:13]  * richardcavell has completed Half-Life and is now installing Half-Life: Blue Shift
[01:13] <DaZ> what services do you have in mind? <:
[01:13] <nevyn> Guest74437: if a "hacker" as you keep refering to them.. actually wants in to your system.. it's all over.. the general strategy.. is to reduce your attack profile (don't provide services to the outside world.)
[01:13] <Dr_Willis> Guest74437:  use a port scanner web site.. see if anything turns up.
[01:14] <sebsebseb> Guest74437: the proper term is cracker the media have it wrong,   the bad guys are also known as blackhats,   the security reashers are known as  whitehats
[01:14] <Dr_Willis> are there any services installed by default on a ubuntu system? Ive never really checked.
[01:14] <richardcavell> Dr_Willis: I have ping enabled and nothing else.  Is it such a bad thing to have ping running?
[01:14] <ChrisR> Is 9.04 more user friendly to do these things myself?
[01:14] <DiViN3> sebsebseb : i have sent u a pm of the error
[01:14] <Dr_Willis> richardcavell:  i doubt if its an issue.
[01:14] <ShadowAp3x> ChrisR: as long as you've got all the dependancies, it should be fairly straight forward
[01:14] <sebsebseb> Guest74437: a hacker could be for example an open source program, hack the code for a program, as in edit it
[01:14] <richardcavell> Ping the world... make it a better place...
[01:14] <DaZ> anyway, you're watching too much tv
[01:14] <ShadowAp3x> ChrisR: yeah
[01:14] <nevyn> Guest74437: and to make your system hard enough to get into that there are many easier targets and the cracker keeps looking
[01:14] <ShadowAp3x> ChrisR: Just sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:14] <sebsebseb> DiViN3: I am not the person to help you with that
[01:14] <richardcavell> Dr_Willis: default install of Ubuntu has 0 services running on TCP/UDP
[01:14] <ShadowAp3x> ChrisR: That should give you everything you need to compile applications
[01:14] <th0r> Dr_Willis: no, by default there isn't anything running on the ports, except of course icmp
[01:14] <Guest74437> will i want to become a whitehat hacker
[01:14] <richardcavell> for you and for me and the entire human race
[01:14] <Dr_Willis> richardcavell:  i had ssh setup once  to the outside world so my brother could ssh in.. the 'logwatch' program showed about 100,000 password attempts over 3 days.
[01:15] <elplatt> hello, anyone?
[01:15] <ChrisR> I will install n check it out n get back to you
[01:15] <nevyn> Guest74437: find 5k and do the ethical hacking course
[01:15] <ChrisR> Thank you
[01:15] <DaZ> Dr_Willis: how about trying different port?
[01:15] <ShadowAp3x> np
[01:15] <Dr_Willis> richardcavell:  yea. thats what i was thinking 0. but i always set up samba and cups and ssh
[01:15] <th0r> Dr_Willis: I moved ssh off port 22 and those hack attempts dropped to zero
[01:15] <chanibal> hi, any idea how to install a cli (aka desktopless, just the command line) ubuntu via WUBI?
[01:15] <Guest74437> can that be free
[01:15] <DiViN3> sebsebseb : ok atleast can you help me with a thing , which is my server doesnt seem to reboot withthe command reboot & shutdown -r now
[01:15] <nevyn> Guest74437: but beware it's actually pretty boring
[01:15] <richardcavell> Dr_Willis: I set up ssh for about 24 hours so a guy here and I could experiment with it.  I had 3 failed login attempts from random IPs
[01:15] <Dr_Willis> DaZ:  that dident really lower it much. Once they saw a port.. they tried..
[01:15] <WillieDaPimp> could some one tell me how to get my sound working...i updated last night and since my sound hasn't worked....i am getting a hissing noise though
[01:15] <nevyn> Guest74437: professional course pro rates.
[01:16] <DaZ> Dr_Willis: port knocking, banning after few attempts
[01:16] <Dr_Willis> changing the port is sort of like hiding your key under the flowerpot.. instead of the door mat. :P
[01:16] <gluonman> Firefox is receiving a SIGPIPE signal randomly during use. It causes it to freeze when running it with gdb, and it crashes when running it from terminal, leaving behind a Segmentation Fault message. I've posted the output from gdb here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/240344/
[01:16] <ubuntu> chanibal, alternative install cd i think or server edition
[01:16] <DaZ> there are hundreds of solutions.
[01:16] <sebsebseb> DiViN3: nope
[01:16] <Dr_Willis> DaZ:  yep. I just needed it on for a day or 2.. so now its off. :) i did find some neat info in the logwatch program
[01:16] <th0r> DaZ: did anyone ever implement port knocking? I found it an interesting idea, but couldn't find any implementations
[01:16] <Dr_Willis> !info logwatch
[01:16] <DasEi> WillieDaPimp: is your card shown in alsamixer ?
[01:16] <DiViN3> anyone here can help me with the problem - server cant seem to reboot at all
[01:17] <sebsebseb> Guest74437: open source proggrammer above
[01:17] <chanibal> ubuntu: ok, i'll check
[01:17] <chanibal> thanks
[01:17] <DasEi> DiViN3: you tried as root, nor ?
[01:17] <WillieDaPimp> DasEi: yes it shows and everything that needs to be unmuted is
[01:17] <richardcavell> Dr_Willis: I use firestarter because it gives me a log of recent activity and active connections.  Is logwatch similar?
[01:17] <DaZ> th0r: yes
[01:17] <Guest74437> well can you plese give me a site that i can read and do my self on witehat hacking for free i am some what self learning
[01:17] <DasEi> WillieDaPimp: check you syslog
[01:17] <Dr_Willis> richardcavell:  lotwatch reads all your logs over the past few days and summariezes wht it finds in a nice output.
[01:18] <Dr_Willis> richardcavell:  its fairly nifty. worth trying out  if you are into that sort of info.
[01:18] <richardcavell> Dr_Willis: but it doesn't do it in real time?
[01:18] <WillieDaPimp> DasEi: im not sure how
[01:18] <richardcavell> I want a program that shows me from one moment to the next what TCP connections are active and who owns them
[01:18] <richardcavell> FireStarter does this, though it's not being actively maintained any more
[01:18] <Dr_Willis> richardcavell:  no - its a log analizer
[01:18] <DasEi> WillieDaPimp:sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[01:19] <DiViN3> DasEi : can you help me out plz
[01:19] <Dr_Willis> richardcavell:  it  more of a 'email you once a day the log summary to look for anything weird' sort of program
[01:19] <DasEi> WillieDaPimp:pastebinit /etc/var/syslog && gedit /var/log/syslog
[01:19] <DasEi> paste*
[01:19] <Guest74437> ok some of yall or teling me that a linux os cannot be crack/hack
[01:19] <Dr_Willis> richardcavell:  it even shows me how many times i used sudo, and  apt-get :)
[01:19] <DasEi> DiViN3: sudo shutdown -r now
[01:19] <richardcavell> Well what software can I get that will do the job of Firestarter in telling me which connections are active and which ports they are on and so on
[01:20] <DasEi> DiViN3:or sudo reboot
[01:20] <blognewb> http://www.wired.com/politics/onlinerights/news/2007/08/wiki_tracker
[01:20] <DiViN3> DasEi : i tried but its not working
[01:20] <unop> richardcavell, ntop might help you there
[01:20] <takamarou> Hi.  I'm looking to do a dual boot of Ubuntu(Jaunty) and gOS.  Is there anyways to switch between the two OS's without completely restarting my computer?  I just want something quicker.
[01:20] <MidasManchu> DiViN3, sudo shutdown -r
[01:20] <DasEi> DiViN3:what message do you get ?
[01:21] <Dr_Willis> takamarou:  if just testing out one.. why not just test it in virtualbox.
[01:21] <DiViN3> DasEi : i have pm you the details
[01:21] <mazda01> need some help please. I am trying to clone an existing desktop setup and move it to new hardware. I did a tar backup excluding proc, mnt, media, var/lib/mythtv, and sys. I untarred it onto the new drive and recreated all the folders I exluded but for some reason my / is being mounted read only because of errors. I can't see what the errors are because the screen goes so fast. also, darn fsck runs everytime I reboot. i fixed menu.lst and 
[01:21] <Dr_Willis> takamarou:  you could install the 'gos-desktop' stuff on a normal ubuntu install and pick what one to use from the GDM logn screen i recall also.
[01:21] <richardcavell> takamarou: what's gOS?
[01:21] <Dr_Willis> I dident find gOS worth messing wth :(
[01:21] <richardcavell> !gOS
[01:21] <unop> richardcavell, gOS is an implementation of an LDAP system
[01:22] <Dr_Willis> gOS is an Enlightenment 17 flavoured variant of Ubuntu,
[01:22] <ShadowAp3x> mazda01: try using dd to clone your disk drive
[01:22] <ChrisR> Curious , last Ubuntu version i used was 8.4 and it had flash problems, are those resolved in 9.4?
[01:22] <DasEi> !pm | DiViN3
[01:22] <gluonman> I need help figuring out a solution to my problem of Firefox randomly crashing from receiving SIGPIPE signals. My gdb output is here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/240344/
[01:22] <unop> richardcavell, actually, i take that back, it was gosa i was talking about
[01:22] <takamarou> Dr_Willis, that will work for just trying it out, but there is no reason to even try it out if it is not worth an eventual dual boot
[01:22] <DasEi> WillieDaPimp:the url from the pastebin ?
[01:22] <ShadowAp3x> mazda01: just taring your folders and moving them will not work correctly
[01:22] <Lenin_Cat> how do you switch a image to RGB in gimp!?
[01:22] <DiViN3> DasEi : well its been more then 4 hours but the server doesnt seem to reboot or restart
[01:23] <Dr_Willis> takamarou:  to try things out.. I always try them in virtualbox.. much easier.
[01:23] <richardcavell> okay so gos is just an Ubuntu derivative distro of Linux?
[01:23] <bazhang> richardcavell, ubuntu-based and not supported here
[01:23] <Dr_Willis> takamarou:  read its features.. see if it has anything you need i guess.
[01:23] <elplatt> can someone PLEASE help me with with a screen resolution issue?
[01:23] <richardcavell> bazhang: that's okay
[01:23] <DaZ> Lenin_Cat: isn't gimp rgb only? :f
[01:23] <Dr_Willis> richardcavell:  basically.. not sure what else its done to differant itself over te last few months sinv ive last tried it.
[01:23] <ChrisR> Does 9.04 support duel monitors?
[01:24] <Dr_Willis> richardcavell:  i see the web site  http://www.thinkgos.com/index.html   using lots of new buzzwords like cloud computing and stuff. :)
[01:24] <takamarou> Dr_Willis, I've read about it.  It sounds like it'll be worth using.  Anyways, you don't know of any way to quickly switch between to different OS's, unless in Virtual Box?
[01:24] <FIKUSZ> sziasztok
[01:24] <richardcavell> takamarou: there's no other way
[01:25] <nevyn> elplatt: screen support is quite tricky remotely but I'll see what I can do..
[01:25] <Dr_Willis> takamarou:  theres that xen/zen (??) stuff.. but virtualbox is the best way to test things out.
[01:25] <richardcavell> takamarou: you need to use virtualization software or else use two different computers
[01:25] <mazda01> can anyone help me figure out why fsck is running upon every reboot?
[01:25] <DiViN3> DasEi : well its been more then 4 hours but the server doesnt seem to reboot or restart
[01:25] <richardcavell> mazda01: you want to mount the partition as read-write, don't you?
[01:25] <elplatt> nevyn: i have a 1440x900 monitor, but that resolution doesn't show up in prefs (i'm running 8.04)
[01:25] <DasEi> !dualhead | ChrisR
[01:25] <richardcavell> mazda01: if you mount it as read-only then fsck can't fix the filesystem
[01:26] <bazhang> !xrandr | ChrisR
[01:26] <FIKUSZ> how to copy this folder :      /usr/lib/lazaru/languager    ?
[01:26] <mazda01> richardcavell: yes. but first I am trying to figure out why fsck is running everytime I restart
[01:26] <ChrisR> ubottu ty
[01:26] <nevyn> elplatt: what video card/driver are you using?
[01:26] <richardcavell> mazda01: well for one thing let it fix the partition
[01:26] <DasEi> DiViN3: maybe disabled fpr regular users ? login as root first : sudo -s
[01:26] <mazda01> richardcavell: i understand that. I have run a live cd and run fsck on the drive. everything is fine fsck says
[01:26] <mdg> Hello!  What's the easiest, fastest way to backup a user's home directory?
[01:26] <DasEi> DiViN3: reboot
[01:26] <DiViN3> DasEi : i am logged in as root
[01:26] <solexious> Dr_Willis, Sorry to poke you again, are you able to ad top and bottom panels to your second screen?
[01:26] <mazda01> richardcavell: it's not fixing anything
[01:27] <Dr_Willis> takamarou:  i dont even see what about it makes it worth using. But i guess it depends on your needs.. ive  been on a testing spree lately. its hard to make anything 'stand out' to me.
[01:27] <richardcavell> mazda01: well it won't if it can't write to the partition
[01:27] <Xodiac13> i am using kubuntu and i need help with making sure i have 3d with my video card i went to the hardware devices and when i click on activate it wont do anything
[01:27] <Dr_Willis> solexious:  alt-click on the panen and drag it.. also in the nvidia-settings tool you can select which one is the primary monitor.
[01:27] <FIKUSZ> thank
[01:27] <DiViN3> DasEi : i am only recieving the message thats its going for reboot but its not rebotting
[01:27] <elplatt> Intel 82845G according to lspci
[01:28] <DasEi> DiViN3: what does ctrl-alt-delete ?
[01:28] <DiViN3> DasEi : i am also getting a error message of invocke-rc.d
[01:28] <solexious> Dr_Willis, Sorry, to clarify, can you have them on both at the same time?
[01:28] <Xodiac13> i had ubuntu 8.10 and now i am trying out kubuntu 8.10 should i upgrade to kubuntu 9.04 or stay with 8.10 and is ubuntu and kubuntu with the versions completley different
[01:28] <mdg> !backup
[01:28] <Dr_Willis> solexious:  make a new panel for the 2nd monitor.
[01:28] <DiViN3> DasEi : i am xsing the server via ssh so i dnt think so i can do a ctrl + alt + del
[01:28] <Dr_Willis> solexious:  the panels dont 'steatch' across 2 monitors with twinview enabled.
[01:28] <mazda01> richardcavell: like right now. I just rebooted to see if I got it working yet. I see at the top this message; ld_static: cannot open output file /lib/lodules/blah blah blah  Reaad only file system.  then below that, iTCO_wdt: failed to reset NO_REBOOT flag, reboot disabled by hardware  and now it's sitting there running fsck on 5 drives again for like the umptenth time
[01:29] <Xodiac13> help please
[01:29] <solexious> Dr_Willis, Thanks, just what i hoped for
[01:29] <DasEi> DiViN3: true
[01:29] <Dr_Willis> solexious:  i keep a right side panel on the 2n monitor for launchers. :)
[01:29] <Dr_Willis> solexious:  so i got 3 panels total
[01:29] <richardcavell> mazda01: and it does this before booting into your X-windows system?
[01:30] <Dr_Willis> solexious:  i have seen a FEW apps tht get confused by the panels on the first monitor so if they fullscreen they dont fully maxamize if on the 2nd monitor.. they think thers a panel at the top
[01:30] <solexious> Dr_Willis, Thats what I had planned, but till its all arrives in the post I cant test any thing like that :
[01:30] <solexious> :)*
[01:30] <mazda01> richardcavell: within fstab the / mount line has errors-remount-ro    or something like that. how can I force it to mount read/write?  Also, how do I get it to stop trying to run fsck? i ahve run fsck on all the drives with a live cd and they are fine
[01:30] <tiPPy> can you have Gui via ssh?
[01:30] <DasEi> DiViN3: so probably the sever side is locked up then, a deafult ssh would shutdown, if root is permitted
[01:30] <Xodiac13> so what should i do anyone?
[01:30] <stealth-> I set up a sound blaster live card, and ubuntu recognizes it, however it continues using my on-board sound instead. Anyone know how to change what it uses?
[01:30] <elplatt> nevyn: any thoughts?
[01:30] <richardcavell> mazda01: mount it as rw
[01:30] <mazda01> richardcavell: yes, I need to fix xorg. I am just trying to get to a gui so I can run nvidia-settings
[01:30] <DiViN3> DasEi : so how do i get it to reboot and get my things fixed
[01:30] <Gos> hey any easy peasy moders here?
[01:30] <nevyn> elplatt: ok...
[01:31] <bazhang> Gos, what is easy peasy
[01:31] <janisoza1r> tiPPy: you can forward X
[01:31] <solexious> Dr_Willis, I plan on having panels on the bottom 2 screens and totally empty for the top 2
[01:31] <mazda01> richardcavell: I am merely booting up the system. should I change the fstab line?
[01:31] <DasEi> DiViN3: who admistrates the server btw where is it located ?
[01:31] <richardcavell> mazda01: yeah
[01:31] <stealth-> tiPPy: yes, you can use X11 forwarding. However, for a full desktop environment (such as gnome) its probably better to use VNC with encryption
[01:31] <Xodiac13> is kubuntu better than ubuntu
[01:31] <Dr_Willis> solexious:  you got a large desk.. and lots of neck pain in your future i predict..
[01:31] <richardcavell> mazda01: let fsck write to the partition
[01:31] <coleys> Xodiac13: simple answer, no.
[01:31] <Dr_Willis> Xodiac13:  use what you like.. kde or gnome..
[01:31] <Gos> bazhang better known as eeeubuntu
[01:31] <nevyn> elplatt: that particular hardware has been getting lots of TLC in recent X development is there a reason you don't want to run 9.04?
[01:31] <richardcavell> mazda01: and in this case / is everything
[01:31] <DasEi> !better | Xodiac13
[01:31] <richardcavell> it's the whole filesystem
[01:31] <sebsebseb> Xodiac13: in my opinion,  KDE  3 and  Ubuntu  are about even,  but that KDE 4 thing I am not a fan,  except for  how apps have got better, but I can run in Gnome anyway so :)
[01:32] <Gos> !eashypeasy
[01:32] <elplatt> actually i tried 9.04 first and it had the same problem
[01:32] <Gos> !easypeasy
[01:32] <mazda01> richardcavell: what do you mean, let fsck write to the partition?
[01:32] <Gos> !easy peasy
[01:32] <solexious> Dr_Willis, Its a long one, and you may be right about the neck pain :s
[01:32] <richardcavell> nevyn: are you referring to the Intel GMA950?
[01:32] <bazhang> Gos, is that an official Ubuntu release? or the one with Adam's kernel
[01:32] <nevyn> richardcavell: yeah
[01:32] <Gos> !help
[01:32] <richardcavell> mazda01: I'm saying let it write to the partition
[01:32] <richardcavell> nevyn: I'm on a GMA 950 and I'm using Karmic.  It's way way way better than Jaunty
[01:32] <sebsebseb> Xodiac13: I should have said  Gnome not Ubuntu above
[01:32] <ubuntu> how do i run a 64 bit guest in a 32 bit host in virtualbox, i read that was possible
[01:32] <Xodiac13> Dr_Willis: i had ubuntu 8.10 and now using kubuntu 8.10 for some odd reason i cant activate the hardware drivers for my radeon x200 and ubuntu 8.10 had no problem doing that what should i do i like kubuntu i just need help on getting it to install my video drivers
[01:32] <DasEi>  Xodiac13: the core is same , ubu/kubu, just different surfaces
[01:32] <bazhang> Gos, please /msg ubottu
[01:32] <Xodiac13> sebsebseb: its all good
[01:33] <sebsebseb> ubuntu: probably better to ask in #vbox
[01:33] <Gos> bazhang will do
[01:33] <sebsebseb> Xodiac13: KDE 4 as a GUI no thanks
[01:33] <elplatt> richardcavell: which number is karmic?
[01:33] <nevyn> richardcavell: right.. but elplatt is trying to use an intel g45 with 8.04
[01:33] <SuspectZero> hey there. i have a program thts not responding. i closed it with ctrl+alt+escape. but ksysguard still shows it. i tried killing the pid but still nothing. any suggestions?
[01:33] <Xodiac13> sebsebseb? so you dont like guis
[01:33] <richardcavell> elplatt: 9.10
[01:33] <nevyn> elplatt: 9.10pre...
[01:33] <bazhang> elplatt, 9.10 #ubuntu+1 for discussion
[01:33] <Dr_Willis> Xodiac13:  ubuntu and kubuntu use the same drivers..  ATI has been goofing with their fglrx drivers lately.     (i rid my self of all my ati machines so cant help more then that)
[01:33] <mazda01> richardcavell: i don't know what you're saying. I am booting up ubuntu, the / is being mounted read only because of unknown errors, then fsck runs and shows everything is ok. what are you suggesting I do. I also can't get into a darn X session. despite me running sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:33] <DasEi> SuspectZero: which app ?
[01:34] <richardcavell> elplatt: Karmic is an order of magnitude better with my Intel GMA 945 than any previous Ubuntu
[01:34] <SuspectZero> DasEi, k3b
[01:34] <sebsebseb> Xodiac13: I don't like KDE 4 as a GUI!   Gnome  and  KDE 3 though :)   oh and I have tried window managers,  OpenBox, and  Fluxbox, and  what not,   but  I would go back to Gnome or KDE
[01:34] <sebsebseb> Xodiac13: XFCE is alright
[01:34] <ChrisR> OK Next Question, Does Ubuntu 9.04 Support 4gigs of DDR Ram n Quad Processors?
[01:34] <Dr_Willis> Xodiac13:  you can install kubuntu-desktop on ubuntu, and ubuntu-desktop on kubuntu -  and just pick what desktp to use from the login screen.
[01:34] <richardcavell> mazda01: If fsck can't modify the disk then it will run every time
[01:34] <nevyn> sebsebseb: don't respond to in channel polls
[01:34] <elplatt> nevyn: i'm happy to try a different version
[01:34] <DasEi> SuspectZero: try sudo killall k3b , to kill child-processes, too
[01:34] <DiViN3> DasEi :well i bought this dedi from shellservers.org so i have no idea where the IDC is
[01:34] <richardcavell> mazda01: mount it as rw
[01:34] <SuspectZero> DasEi, ksysguard is still showing it
[01:34] <richardcavell> mazda01: change the /etc/fstab line - replace that bit with rw
[01:34] <ubuntu> sebsebseb, thanks
[01:34] <TwoToneSpirit> Is there a way to be alerted when a user SSH's in?
[01:34] <Xodiac13> Dr_Willis: all i did was install kubuntu 8.10 thinking it would install my video driver the one think im confused is that it wont install in kubuntu but it does in ubuntu
[01:34] <nevyn> elplatt: get the current release jaunty 9,04 and things may be better..
[01:34] <sebsebseb> !kde3 >  Xodiac13
[01:35] <elplatt> nevyn: my frustration is that it seems like it either works automatically or it doesn't work at all
[01:35] <sebsebseb> Xodiac13: and there's a repo you can get for it
[01:35] <mazda01> richardcavell: what do you suggest I do to get the darn / disk mounted as read write? do you have a fstab line that I could look at?
[01:35] <DasEi> SuspectZero: top also showing it ?
[01:35] <elplatt> nevyn: already tried 9.04, same problem
[01:35] <nevyn> elplatt: you can do some things like try running xrandr from a terminal.. and see what shows up
[01:35] <sebsebseb> ubuntu: for what?
[01:35] <DiViN3> DasEi : well atleast can you list me a site where i can setup my DNS setting with my Rdns working with tutorial
[01:35] <jonesy> lo
[01:35] <Xodiac13> sebsebseb: so im screwed on getting my video card like i did with ubuntu 8.10
[01:36] <jonesy> any one there
[01:36] <Xodiac13> sebsebseb: i mean it worked fine in ubuntu 8.10
[01:36] <Dr_Willis> Xodiac13:  the 2 use the exact same core/drivers under neeth. it shouldent matter.
[01:36] <SuspectZero> DasEi, yep
[01:36] <richardcavell> mazda01: replace the errors=remount-ro bit on the / line with rw
[01:36] <DasEi> DiViN3: you want to do dynamic dns ?
[01:36] <elplatt> nevyn: same resolutions as in the display prefs gui
[01:36] <bazhang> jonesy, yes
[01:36] <mazda01> richardcavell: ok, will try
[01:36] <nevyn> elplatt: how old is the hardware?
[01:36] <sebsebseb> Xodiac13: which  type of graphics card?
[01:36] <DiViN3> DasEi : m getting this error when i restart my bind9 : rndc: connection to remote host closed
[01:36] <Xodiac13> sebsebseb: it just wont work in kubuntu when i try to activate it it really doesnt do anything and it keeps saying that the driver is not activated so then i keep trying to activate it
[01:36] <mazda01> richardcavell: thanks. I didn't think it would be this hard to move an install to another computer but I guess it is.
[01:36] <richardcavell> Hey, whoever was telling me to use ntop, how do I use it?  I type 'ntop' at the Terminal and just get a bunch oferrors
[01:36] <Dr_Willis> Xodiac13:  you may want to upgrade to  the latest ubuntu.. but that may not support your card with the fglrx drivers at all. So its a catch-22 situation  i guess
[01:36] <elplatt> nevyn: few years, not sure exactly
[01:37] <richardcavell> mazda01: Oh God don't try to do that
[01:37] <Xodiac13> sebsebseb: its a radeon x200 worked awesome in ubuntu 8.10
[01:37] <sebsebseb> Xodiac13: sounds like something from ATI?
[01:37] <DiViN3> DasEi : now the thing is my hostname is not recolveing
[01:37] <DiViN3> DasEi : now the thing is my hostname is not resolving*
[01:37] <nevyn> elplatt: have you checked for a bios update?
[01:37] <Xodiac13> sebsebseb: so im going to have to go back to ubuntu 8.10 then
[01:37] <mazda01> richardcavell: i wasn't about to reinstall all my apps, my mysql server, my  mythtv install and all my customizations!
[01:37] <sebsebseb> Xodiac13: is it ATI?
[01:37] <jonesy_> still cant set my screen to 1280X1024 any one got any iders?
[01:37] <Xodiac13> sebsebseb: yeah
[01:38] <richardcavell> mazda01: probably easier than what you're trying to do!
[01:38] <sebsebseb> Xodiac13: sure go back to 8.10,  it's  the better release really in many ways,  when comparing to 9.04,   9.10 should be quite a bit better though :)
[01:38] <DasEi> DiViN3: if you rent a dedi-server, they should have done that for you
[01:38] <Xodiac13> sebsebseb: i want to try out 9.04 but it doesnt support my video card
[01:38] <SuspectZero> DasEi, screw it, i'll just restart . thanks for the help though. it seems everytime im here ur always helping me :D join #remote-exploit sometime and i'll help you :P
[01:38] <mazda01> richardcavell: ok, should it just be relatime,rw
[01:38] <sebsebseb> !ati |  Xodiac13
[01:38] <elplatt> nevyn: nope, how would that help?
[01:38] <sebsebseb> Xodiac13: not much to try out in 9.04, to be hoenst
[01:38] <sebsebseb> honest
[01:38] <Dr_Willis> Xodiac13:  if you accidently upgraded to 9.04 that might of broke the ati d5rivers.
[01:38] <richardcavell> mazda01: okay.
[01:38] <Xodiac13> sebsebseb: o okay
[01:38] <DiViN3> DasEi :well the thing is its only done when i get the managed service, but since i didnt i have to do it on my own
[01:39] <sebsebseb> Xodiac13: also if you virtual machine it with 8.10 as host,  that should get round your graphids card issue, because then it can use the host
[01:39] <Xodiac13> Dr_Willis: i didnt it keeps asking me lol
[01:39] <nevyn> elplatt: there's a table in the videocard of supported resolutions
[01:39] <mechtech> sebsebseb: I never heard of Matrox video cards before...they any good?
[01:39] <nevyn> well it's in the main system bios ... etc... bleh
[01:39] <sebsebseb> mechtech: I don't know
[01:39] <DiViN3> DasEi :so any idea where or how i can get to fix that dns issue
[01:39] <Line> how can i run a command through ssh that wont terminate when i close my ssh session?
[01:39] <nevyn> mechtech: I loved my G400
[01:39] <DasEi> DiViN3:see, and it has no static ip ?
[01:40] <elplatt> nevyn: i'll look into it, although when i got it, it had xp and the screen worked fine
[01:40] <nevyn> mechtech: they're workstation cards.. they got out of the consumer space a few years ago
[01:40] <edbian> Line: add a "&" to run a command "in the background"
[01:40] <Xodiac13> Dr_Willis: i am going to have to install ubuntu 8.10 then thank you i appreciate the help
[01:40] <Dr_Willis> Xodiac13:  you could install ubuntu, then install the kubuntu-desktop package if you wanted...  i gave away my ati based laptop. so  thats about all i know on the topic. :) good luck
[01:40] <mechtech> nevyn: Matrox G400?
[01:40] <sebsebseb> Xodiac13: I read something about better support in 9.10 for these problem Intel  graphics cards,  so  maybe other types as well
[01:40] <nevyn> mechtech: yeah
[01:40] <nevyn> but that was ages ago..
[01:40] <DiViN3> DasEi :i have 128 ips in it
[01:40] <sebsebseb> Xodiac13: 9.10 isn't out yet though of course
[01:40] <sebsebseb> Xodiac13: as a final
[01:40] <DasEi> Line: set up a script on remote machine, run it, log out
[01:40] <Xodiac13> Dr_Willis: okay thank you
[01:40] <Dr_Willis> I finally got my intel cards working good. :) just had to use a PPA repo to upgrade things
[01:40] <Joelito> hi all, question about emesene: I deleted contacts from my hotmail account and they still can send me IMs..how can I fix this?
[01:40] <Line> edbian thank you i will try it
[01:40] <Xodiac13> sebsebseb: is 9.10 going to support all raedon video cards
[01:40] <linuxguy2009> Ok I want to use the great reliable ext3 file system on my flashdrive and external hard drive. I dont want to keep having to do "gksudo nautilus" every time i want to access files or chamnge permissions constantly. I read that some guy adds users names to the "users" group and then simply sets all ownership of the drive to "users group". Is there any groups by default that represent "every user has permission to use that drive? Example 
[01:40] <sebsebseb> Xodiac13: not sure
[01:41] <edbian> Line:  NP!  You can test it out in a standard terminal
[01:41] <Xodiac13> sebsebseb: okay thank you have a good one
[01:41] <DasEi> DiViN3:so take one and register it at dymdns.org with a name you want
[01:41] <Xodiac13> sebsebseb: going back to ubuntu
[01:41] <sebsebseb> Xodiac13: hang on
[01:41] <DasEi> dyndns* , DiViN3
[01:41] <Xodiac13> sebsebseb: okay
[01:41] <mazda01> richardcavell: what's that option when running dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg? is it like --phigh or something like that?  also, X did finally show up but I only have 256 RAM so I am guessing that's holding me back trying to use gnome. my top panel isn't filling in with Apps or Places or System and the stuff in the right side of the uppper panel isn't there either. any thoughts?
[01:41] <sebsebseb> Xodiac13: did you understand what I was saying about virtual machine? and how much RAM do you have?
[01:41] <lsu> qt
[01:41] <Dr_Willis> linuxguy2009:  set the  modes to 777 on the stuff..  then anyone can access them all..  but thats not a good fix.. your groups method may be a better way.
[01:41] <jonesy_> any one know how to set my desktop to 1280x1024 coz it want let me :(
[01:41] <Xodiac13> sebsebseb: i have 1 gig
[01:42] <sebsebseb> Xodiac13: yeah that's enough for vm's.  so you say  KDE 4  is  the problem in 9.04?
[01:42] <Xodiac13> sebsebseb: with 2.66ghz processor duo core
[01:42] <sebsebseb> Xodiac13: it won't do your graphids card?
[01:42] <DiViN3> DasEi : well i setup my own name server n pointed it already, it was working but after i did apt-get upgrade  , all went crazy
[01:42] <nevyn> mazda01: -plow will give you all questions
[01:42] <Xodiac13> sebsebseb: i have kubuntu 8.10 installed it should support my video card but it doesnt
[01:42] <sebsebseb> !kde3 >  Xodiac13
[01:42] <Dr_Willis> linuxguy2009:  ive learned to set the uid's on all my users on the various linux box's i use identically. so  my file ownership/s dont change when i move my flash drives from one to another.
[01:42] <richardcavell> mazda01: I don't think I can add anything.  If you're trying to migrate it to new hardware you're going to have a headache.
[01:42] <linuxguy2009> Dr_Willis: Ok cool. BTW what are the numbers I keep seeing mean for permissions? that 777 666 etc. Are they group or user numbers?
[01:43] <sebsebseb> Xodiac13: so your going back to 8.04?
[01:43] <Dr_Willis> linuxguy2009:  those are file permisions.. neither one. :) chown for owner.. chmod for modes.
[01:43] <mazda01> nevyn: --plow?  really? I thought it was something with phigh.
[01:43] <Xodiac13> sebsebseb: i have to go back to ubuntu 8.10 because my video card actually worked with 3d and all
[01:43] <linuxguy2009> oh ok
[01:43] <Dr_Willis> linuxguy2009:  theres guides  and docs and examples of what all those mean.
[01:43] <DiViN3> DasEi : is there any command to restore the whole server back to an earlier time
[01:43] <Dr_Willis> linuxguy2009:  really somthing worth reading up on. I rarely use the groups feature.
[01:43] <Hack-ed> hey
[01:44] <Gos> hey
[01:44] <nevyn> mazda01: -phigh and -plow control which questions are presented to you
[01:44] <sebsebseb> Xodiac13: ok or you could try other distros
[01:44] <mazda01> nevyn: ok, thanks
[01:44] <nevyn> -phigh only shows the high priority questions
[01:44] <linuxguy2009> Dr_Willis:  Right on brotha! Thank you that gives me somethimg new to google and learn. Later!
[01:44] <Hack-ed> O:-)
[01:44] <Gos> :P
[01:44] <DasEi> DiViN3:that won't work, and they didn't tell you how to restart ?
[01:44] <Dr_Willis> linuxguy2009:  i saw a little google desktop gadget that lets you click on a thing and it shows the ### permisions :)
[01:44] <nevyn> linuxguy2009: additionally checkout umask and default umask
[01:44] <Xodiac13> sebsebseb: i have been trying to see if opensuse supports my video card but i tried looking in forums and i cant find it so if it works with my video card then i will try that out
[01:45] <bobwhoops> I want to do a full disk backup from the live cd, including MBR. Would dd if=/dev/sda of=/mnt/whatever do that?
[01:45] <sebsebseb> Xodiac13: no I woudn't recommend going to opensuse.  How experienced are you  with Linux?
[01:45] <Xodiac13> sebsebseb: im a complete linux NOOB
[01:45] <Dr_Willis> Xodiac13:  the thing to remeber is that its ATI that has done changes to their FGLRX drivers.. its possible that card is one they removed from the newer FGLRX drivers.. if so . then most all new disrtos will use the ATI drivber for that card.
[01:45] <Line> edbian i tried the & before the comma d and i got bash: unexpected character '&’
[01:45] <DasEi> bobwhoops: yes, but the /mnt/whatever has to be big enough, own sized party will be best
[01:46] <mordocai> Hello, i am using transmission bittorrent client to download debian and archlinux, and my download speed is fine, but i have a constant 0.0 kb/s upload.  I've opened the port on my router, checked preferences and clicked enabled port forwarding, and preferences even says the port is open... but still no uploading. I don't like just downloading without "giving back"... anyone know of anything to check?
[01:46] <DiViN3> DasEi : as i said earlier , it was like working fine all the way until i apt-get upgrade , n the server was reboot at that point of time to take effect  but after that this problem started
[01:46] <bobwhoops> DasEi: Can it be just a regular file on an external hard drive?
[01:46] <edbian> Line
[01:46] <Xodiac13> sebsebseb: so what should i do because i see my only option is to go to ubuntu 8.10
[01:46] <edbian> Line: A "&" at the end of the command
[01:47] <sebsebseb> Xodiac13: yeah  it's not if  Ubuntu will support all  ATI  cards,  it's  really  if ATI  will support all ATI cards on Linux distros,   which I belive is what  Dr_Willis  was also  basically saying
[01:47] <edbian> Line: "sudo compiz --replace&"
[01:47] <mechtech> mordocai: seems like you've got the bases covered...maybe there isn't anyone trying to download that right now however unlikely that may seem
[01:47] <DasEi> DiViN3:so you had one reboot least; sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a    is another manner to fork it all again
[01:47] <Xodiac13> sebsebseb: o okay cool cool well ubuntu 8.10 it is
[01:47] <sebsebseb> Xodiac13: yeah 8.10 or  8.0.3  the long term support,  or  other distros,  such as  Mandriva,  since your new to Linux
[01:47] <Lancearate> I'm having difficulty with an intermittent hard crash in Ubuntu-9.04 AMD64 when attempting large file operations like backing up to a portable drive (every few minutes), or very intermittently (once or twice weekly) with regular use. Upon hard crash, the machine no longer accepts any incoming ssh connections or responds to existing ssh connections, and (as far as I know) the logs found in /var/log don't contain anything out of 
[01:47] <Xodiac13> sebsebseb: i tried looking at that too mandriva i dont know if it supports my video card
[01:47] <DasEi> bobwhoops: regular partiton, as this will behave like a big iso
[01:48] <sebsebseb> Xodiac13: or  PC Linux OS, which I belive is coming out with the 2009 version in August :)
[01:48] <mordocai> mechtech: Possible i suppose, i looked around for a software firewall on ubuntu... didn't see anything i could open software wise. The arch download has 95 peers, the debian only 7
[01:48] <sebsebseb> Xodiac13: that's the idea of Live CD's for distros
[01:48] <sebsebseb> Xodiac13: boot up and try your hardware, without installing anything, unless you want to
[01:48] <Xodiac13> sebsebseb: i remeber trying out mandriva and i had a x1200 and that somehow had 3d support
[01:48] <mechtech> mordocai: at command prompt run: ufw status
[01:48] <wet> how can i change or modify JVM options on ubuntu?
[01:48] <bobwhoops> DasEi: it has to be a partition, it can't be a file?
[01:48] <Xodiac13> sebsebseb: so would it be better if i go to ubuntu 8.04
[01:48] <DiViN3> DasEi : i am recieving error  : invoke-rc.d: WARNING: invoke-rc.d called during shutdown sequence
[01:49] <WindowsUser> Lancearate: what are you using to back up
[01:49] <Xodiac13> sebsebseb: does it support my video card
[01:49] <mechtech> mordocai: that will show you whether uncomplicated firewall is enabled or disabled
[01:49] <mordocai> mechtech: Inactive
[01:49] <Xodiac13> sebsebseb: i remeber looking at the ubuntu forums and 8.10 supported my video card
[01:49] <sebsebseb> Xodiac13: if 8.10 does I expect  8.04.3  does, since  I think  it still has the older version of xorg
[01:49] <mechtech> mordocai: no other firewall?
[01:49] <Lancearate> WindowsUser: samba, nautilus, copy+paste to directory on windows vista machine
[01:49] <mordocai> mechtech: Hmm... i do have some in my peer list who say they are incoming connections... so i guess they are getting here. And yeah, no other firewall that i know of.
[01:50] <Xodiac13> sebsebseb: is that a good thing or bad older version of xorg and i cant choose i need help on that should i use 8.10 or 8.04
[01:50] <rww> sebsebseb, Xodiac13: versions of Ubuntu before 9.04 use the older version of xorg, and aren't getting upgraded to the newer one.
[01:50] <DasEi> bobwhoops:it can be a file, if the size is big enough, but dd will overwrite anything in the xisting place, so the upper space on the external hd then is useless
[01:50] <jtrops> My mother in-law updated her Ubuntu laptop, and now Gnome won't load.  It was set up to auto login and load the desktop, and now she is getting the login screen.  When she logs in it doesn't do anything.  Any ideas?
[01:50] <rww> Xodiac13: the older version of fglrx that (I presume) you want requires the older version of xorg in 8.10 or older.
[01:50] <mordocai> mechtech: Oh yeah, just looked through the list... looks like everyone is a seeder lol
[01:50] <sebsebseb> Xodiac13: 8.10 is a nice release,  thing is it stops being supported  next April
[01:50] <Xodiac13> rww: o okay so ether or im good with 8.04 or 8.10 lol sorry im trying to make sure my video card will work
[01:50] <sebsebseb> Xodiac13: I think it's next April anyway for the desktop
[01:50] <DasEi> DiViN3:answered your pm
[01:51] <mechtech> mordocai: also, transmission is set to use a random port every time it starts, so to use port forwarding effectively, you either need to have the software use the UPnP ability, or set the port within the software yourself...I recommend anything above 10000
[01:51] <Xodiac13> sebsebseb: so go with 8.04 because it will be supported for a long time
[01:52] <sebsebseb> Xodiac13: go for 8.10,  then if your up for it you  can do a clean install of 9.10 when it's out,   quicker than  upgrading through 9.04, plus then  if you do guided install (or choose  when setting partiitons up yourself) you get full Ext4 by default :)  totally worth people clean installing Ubuntu when 9.10 is out, for   the  default Extr4,  with much faster boot up time
[01:52] <mordocai> mechtech: Okay, thanks. I think it just may be no one is downloading. Though i'm going to double check the port forwarding.
[01:53] <mechtech> sebsebseb: i thought ext4 was still kinda experimental
[01:53] <mechtech> mordocai: I would
[01:53] <sebsebseb> mechtech: well yeah kind of  experimental in 9.04 I guess,   Fedora 11 uses by default, but it also has a later kernel,  and  Ubuntu 9.10 will have Ext4 by default with of course later kernel :)
[01:53] <Xodiac13> sebsebseb: okay and when i install 8.10 what type of partition should i use for fast boot-up and performance because im a gamer
[01:53] <richardcavell> Guys I want some software that shows a window on my computer listing all active TCP/UDP connections.  I want it to run in real time and to display in X11, not in a terminal.  Firestarter has something similar.  Is there any package similar to that?
[01:54] <rww> Xodiac13: ext3. 8.10's kernel doesn't support ext4.
[01:54] <sebsebseb> Xodiac13: Ext4 is not an option in 8.10, so you do Ext3
[01:54] <Line> edbian that only showed a pid or something i stillRise get syntax errorr323 unexpected symbol &, i am using an ssh program via my iphone
[01:54] <mechtech> sebsebseb: :)
[01:54] <Xodiac13> sebsebseb: sorry i dont mean to keep asking but isnt ext2 faster than ext3 or is ext3 faster
[01:54] <Line> edbianan sorry for the errorsr
[01:54] <edbian> Line: Show me the command you typed
[01:55] <sebsebseb> Xodiac13: if you do 9.10  when released  and can't get your card working there,  well   then you can obviosuly  put  8.04  on
[01:55] <edbian> Line: You are ssh'd into an ubuntu box using bash script correcT?
[01:55] <sebsebseb> !ext3 |  Xodiac13
[01:55] <th0r> richardcavell: etherape might do what you want
[01:55] <mechtech> WuTang!
[01:55] <Line> & /home/user/Desktop/squeezeslave -m 00:00:00:00:00:00 -r10
[01:56] <Xodiac13> sebsebseb: okay nice nice well im going to put ubuntu 8.10 on my machine thank you for the help
[01:56] <mazda01> richardcavell: i gave up. just going to do a fresh install and start over. I am going to export my mysql database and my home directory. just have to reinstall all apps and copy over the etc config files. I was able to take a hard drive and put it in another machine once, but I was trying to move an install from one hard drive to another. oh well.
[01:56] <sebsebseb> Xodiac13: ok no probs
[01:56] <richardcavell> mazda01: good idea
[01:56] <sebsebseb> Xodiac13: if you do a guided install
[01:56] <Line> edbian i dont think so
[01:56] <sebsebseb> Xodiac13: hold on a sec
[01:56] <Xodiac13> sebsebseb: have a good one and thanks again i appreciate it
[01:56] <Xodiac13> sebsebseb: okay
[01:56] <edbian> Line: You don't think so about what?
[01:56] <sebsebseb> Xodiac13: if you do a guided install then you get everything in  /   and  it does swap for you
[01:57] <jtrops> Does anyone have any idea why an update would cause 8.10 to stop auto login, and fail to load Gnome on login?
[01:57] <mazda01> richardcavell: partimage or similar shoudl work though. I just tried the tar route and found it to be too hard to get it working again.
[01:57] <sebsebseb> Xodiac13: having a seperate home can be useful though,  if you set up the partitions yourself you can do that.
[01:57] <richardcavell> th0r: I just want it to say "http port 80 firefox 3kbytes/sec" or something like that
[01:57] <Xodiac13> sebsebseb: yeah ive been doing that its easier
[01:57] <Line> edbian its just connecting to my openssh service
[01:57] <richardcavell> mazda01: yep.  I use clonezilla
[01:57] <sebsebseb> Xodiac13: ok  well  clean install then :)
[01:57] <Xodiac13> sebsebseb: other distros i tried i would have enough for the OS and then swap and then home like you said
[01:57] <edbian> Line: Show me the command you're trying to issue?
[01:57] <danbhfive> if my computer doesn't go to sleep for awhile, is there a way to figure out why?  (it seems to happen when firefox is open, but I would like to check if I can)
[01:58] <sebsebseb> Xodiac13: ah ha you have been doing seperate home?
[01:58] <Xodiac13> sebsebseb: i will thank you have a good one
[01:58] <mazda01> richardcavell: i'll have to test that out. is it free?
[01:58] <richardcavell> mazda01: yep
[01:58] <richardcavell> mazda01: go to clonezilla's website and download the live CD
[01:58] <mazda01> richardcavell: do you run it from a livecd?
[01:58] <Xodiac13> sebsebseb: well i mean i seperate it with three partitions one for OS, swap, and where i have my programs
[01:58] <sebsebseb> Xodiac13: ok
[01:58] <richardcavell> mazda01: it's really powerful.  Boot into live CD and you can go from disk/partition/image to disk/partition/image
[01:59] <Line> edbian & /home/user/Desktop/squeezeslave -m 00:00:00:00:00:00 -r10
[01:59] <Xodiac13> sebsebseb: but i havent done that in a while i just do the option where it does it for me where it creates a swap for me
[01:59] <edbian> Line: The "&" goes at the end
[01:59] <edbian> Line: That command has no program!  Just arguments
[01:59] <sebsebseb> Xodiac13: yeah go for that,    and you can try 9.10 when it's released as well,  which means you should clean install, as I already explained
[01:59] <edbian> Line: Unless you have a program named "edbian" :{
[01:59] <Line> edvian D'oh thanks!
[01:59] <th0r> richardcavell: I think there is a menu optino that will do that'
[01:59] <mazda01> richardcavell: cools, thanks
[01:59] <Xodiac13> sebsebseb: okay thank you have a good one
[01:59] <edbian> Line: lol
[02:00] <edbian> Line: NP
[02:00] <jonesy_> god damn it ScreenResolution dont even work
[02:00] <jonesy_> what the hell i need to do to set my desktop to 1280x1024
[02:00] <jonesy_> ive tryed all the fourms and nothing still the same
[02:00] <richardcavell> th0r: installing now
[02:00] <jonesy_> but yet if i boot to my other install of ubuntu fine and on xp
[02:01] <Lancearate> (reposted) I'm having difficulty with an intermittent hard crash in Ubuntu-9.04 AMD64 when attempting large file operations like backing up to a portable drive (every few minutes), or very intermittently (once or twice weekly) with regular use. Upon hard crash, the machine no longer accepts any incoming ssh connections or responds to existing ssh connections, and (as far as I know) the logs found in /var/log don't contain anyth
[02:01] <jtrops> jonesy: what graphics card do you have?  My Nvidia card has a settings utility in the system tools that lets me adjust it.
[02:02] <jonesy_> ati
[02:02] <jonesy_> maybe i should bin it
[02:02] <th0r> richardcavell: haven'
[02:02] <th0r> richardcavell: haven't used it much but if I remember right there is a protocol display that will show you http, dhcp, icmp, etc in real time
[02:02] <Fishscene> Lancearate: I had a problem like that once.. Drove me crazy. 2 years later, I found it was a bad capacitor next to my CPU on the motherboard.
[02:02] <jonesy_> really its done my head in so much
[02:02] <Lancearate> Fishscene: D: how do you even test for that kind of thing
[02:03] <jtrops> If I remember right when I had an ATI driver I had to make my settings in the xorg.conf file.
[02:04] <Fishscene> Lancearate: I was unable to devise a test to find the problem, so I purchased a new PC and enver had problems. But 2 years after I did that, I examined my old mobo and found a capacitor had leaked jumk all over my mobo. I know I'm not offering much help, but intermittent hardware problems are VERY hard to diagnose. You can try pulling/swapping expansion cards. Pull the ones you don't need first, then swap out the other ones (like the video card
[02:04] <richardcavell> th0r: I'm running it now.  I don't think it's what I want
[02:04] <richardcavell> What I want is like it has in Firestarter.  Just a text window with all active connections
[02:05] <jonesy_> stupid god damn fucking display
[02:05] <edbian> Lancearate: I had a similar problem.  My capacitors also exploded.  My system would randomly shut off.
[02:05] <mazda01> when doing manual partitioning during an install, I am specifying mount points for all my media drives. should they be /media/500gb or //media/500gb/   notice the slash on the end. any suggestions
[02:05] <edbian> !language
[02:05] <richardcavell> what I really want is to see which programs are using bandwidth and whether someone's hacking into me in real time
[02:05] <edbian> jonesy_: What are you trying to do?
[02:05] <th0r> richardcavell: I have firestarter installed, I know what you mean. I have quite a few network tools (used to be my job) but from what I recall etherape is the closest thing I have to firestarter
[02:06] <th0r> richardcavell: why not use firestarter?
[02:06] <richardcavell> mazda01: no need for end slash
[02:06] <jonesy_> only set my desktop to 1280x1024 rather than 1024x840
[02:06] <janisoza1r> !better > Kveldulf
[02:06] <Lancearate> edbian: :O does windows Vista have some sort of invulnerability to bad capacitors that Ubuntu linux does not? Are capacitors known to go bad simply due to an operating system install?
[02:06] <richardcavell> th0r: It's not doing what I want.  It has pretty graphics that change all the time
[02:07] <jonesy_> i had this really easy way on windows with this little bar one way made it bigger the other way smaller so easy
[02:07] <edbian> Lancearate: This was on a windows xp install.  It was not the fault of the OS.  It was an emachines computer (low quality).  No software is immune to hardware failure
[02:07] <mechtech> Lancearate: lol
[02:07] <jonesy_> and know i have to reporgram my xOrg server what the hell POS
[02:07] <Fishscene> Lancearate: Not that I'm aware of. If Vista is working just fine, then I have no idea..
[02:07] <richardcavell> th0r: I'll just use firestarter I think
[02:08] <Seeker`> jonesy_: please try to stay calm
[02:08] <mdmarmer> hi -- is there a channel to discuss copyright and things like that - maybe a #gnu
[02:08] <th0r> richardcavell: did you click on the protocol icon?
[02:08] <Lancearate> Fishscene: thanks anyways, I'll ask the chat again in ~20 minutes
[02:08] <Fishscene> NP
[02:08] <richardcavell> th0r: but I wish I could get the Active Connections window without the firewall stuff above it
[02:08]  * jonesy_ is sterssing 
[02:08] <richardcavell> th0r: yeah I saw it but it's not the same
[02:08] <mechtech> mdmarmer: gnu software is copy LEFTED
[02:08] <mazda01> richardcavell: tghanks
[02:09] <mechtech> !copyright
[02:09] <Fishscene> mdmarmer: Legal questions can be tricky depending on the question and your location. If it's about Linux/Ubuntu/FOSS, I'm sure you can ask in here..
[02:09] <mazda01> richardcavell: what kind of permissions will the installer create on the folders? also, owner:group?
[02:10] <richardcavell> mazda01: whatever the default is.  The fact that it's installing on another drive makes no difference
[02:10] <jonesy_> Section "Monitor"
[02:10] <jonesy_>         Identifier   "aticonfig-Monitor[0]-0"
[02:10] <jonesy_>         HorizSync    30.0 - 82.0
[02:10] <jonesy_>         VertRefresh  56.0 - 76.0
[02:10] <jonesy_>         Option      "VendorName" "IIyama"
[02:10] <FloodBot1> jonesy_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:10] <jonesy_>         Option      "ModelName" "Prolite E485S"
[02:11] <mazda01> richardcavell: i am not formatting the drives that I am mounting. i am just curious who the owner:group will be for /media/fat32   and the others and what the permissions will be.
[02:11] <jonesy_> oppps
[02:11] <jonesy_> sorry
[02:11] <richardcavell> mazda01: so you're mounting an external drive within the Ubuntu installer as /media/fat32?
[02:11] <jonesy_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/240475/
[02:11] <jonesy_> can any one take a look at this xorg.conf thingy
[02:11] <richardcavell> mazda01: seems like strange way to go about it
[02:11] <jonesy_> ive put as much info as i can find in there
[02:12] <jefinc> is there a program like Norton Ghost?
[02:12] <mdmarmer> @mechtech -- i don't want to talk about software -- i want to talk about RIAA and trials
[02:12] <jonesy_> is this rite    Identifier   "aticonfig-Monitor[0]-0"
[02:12] <mazda01> richardcavell: they aren't external. they are internal drives that already ahve tons of movies and music on them. i just want the installer to create the mount points so that they get added to fstab right off the batt. i've done this in the past but I think I always end up chowning the folders and changing the permissions anyway. I just couldn't remeber what they get created by for user:group   and whatnot.
[02:12] <richardcavell> jefinc: clonezilla
[02:12] <mdmarmer> i think there is #copyright and #law -- i'll see if anyone is there
[02:13] <richardcavell> mazda01: I don't know what the default permissions will be either
[02:13] <jefinc> richardcavell: 3rd party? or in the add/remove ?
[02:13] <richardcavell> jefinc: go to the website and download the liveCD
[02:14] <jonesy_> edbian Seeker` any thing>
[02:14] <jefinc> richardcavell: roger, thanks :)
[02:14] <rww> !pm | sebsebseb
[02:14] <sebsebseb> rww: hmm
[02:14] <edbian> jonesy_: Sorry?
[02:15] <mazda01> richardcavell: ok, weird. I am trying to tell the installer to mount my 300gb hard drive to /var/lib/mythtv  and it's saying something about deleting existing data. I don't remember that coming up when I've done this in the psat. I guess i'll just mount it afterwards. don't want to risk deleting over 180 dvr'd shows with mythtv.
[02:15] <jonesy_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/240475/
[02:15] <richardcavell> mazda01: yeah I wouldn't do it in the installer
[02:15] <jonesy_> my xorg.conf
[02:15] <triplc> Hello all. How to enable "vim:set ts=4"? I used to set small things like tabstops, syntax... embeded in text file. However, when I started using Jaunty, those "vim:set ts=4" no longer work. I already "apt-get install vim-full", but it still does not work. Maybe it's not because of Jaunty. Anyway. Please help.
[02:15] <sebsebseb> rww: wasn't really a question for the channal, plus  I got an answer else where anyway, so :)
[02:16] <mechtech> Did ATI ever get onboard and develop drivers for their devices?
[02:16] <mdg> triplc: have you tried the #vim forum?
[02:16] <mechtech> for linux?
[02:16] <Prodigy> hello
[02:16] <Prodigy> can someone help me please
[02:16] <mechtech> !hi | Prodigy
[02:16] <bazhang> Prodigy, need a question
[02:16] <mechtech> !ask | Prodigy
[02:17] <Prodigy> Im trying to install halo but its not working?
[02:17] <triplc> mdg: No, not vim forum. In fact, I think it's not because of vim, but because of some hidden changes of distro.
[02:17] <richardcavell> Prodigy: you mean the game Halo?
[02:17] <Prodigy> obv
[02:17] <PRGIDY> prodigy my solution is get windows
[02:17] <PRGIDY> runs everything
[02:17] <sage_> hey
[02:17] <Prodigy> my mom wont buy it
[02:17]  * DaZ agrees
[02:17] <richardcavell> is this a troll?
[02:17] <Prodigy> i have to use this stupid ubuntu crap
[02:17] <bazhang> Prodigy, what version of wine
[02:18] <Prodigy> i dont drink
[02:18] <bazhang> Prodigy, no need for that
[02:18] <sage_> I want to be able to view my drives
[02:18] <sage_> what do I do
[02:18] <Prodigy> who knows this stuff is so hard
[02:18] <sebsebseb> rww: chmod -x rww
[02:18] <Prodigy> whats that do
[02:18] <richardcavell> Prodigy: are you trying to install the game Halo on Ubuntu?
[02:18] <bazhang> check the appdb Prodigy help in #winehq
[02:18] <Prodigy> of course i am
[02:18] <richardcavell> Here we go
[02:18] <Prodigy> whats appdb?
[02:18] <jonesy_>  /me FAILS TO UNDERSTAND WHY SETTING YOUR DESKTOP SIZE SHOULD BE FRIGGING HEARD
[02:19] <richardcavell> I'm guessing 90 seconds left
[02:19] <richardcavell> No, only too about 20 seconds
[02:19] <richardcavell> *took
[02:19] <Prodigy> it only takes 20 seconds to install halo?
[02:19] <bazhang> jonesy_, no need for caps
[02:19] <rww> sebsebseb: chmod: changing permissions of 'rww': Operation not permitted
[02:19] <mdg> jonesy_: we've all been there at some point....
[02:20] <bazhang> !appdb | Prodigy
[02:20] <Prodigy> !appdb helo
[02:20] <richardcavell> Prodigy: No, it only took about 20 seconds for your sock puppet to get banned
[02:20] <Prodigy> !appdb halo
[02:20] <Prodigy> what?
[02:20] <bazhang> Prodigy, check that link
[02:20] <Prodigy> you are banning me why?
[02:20] <iceroot> Prodigy: use the real homepage
[02:20] <jonesy_> ive set every thing up tho and nothing changes it its got some wierd setting from ati prob and thats that POS
[02:21] <sebsebseb> rww: heh :)  it was a play on the fact that your name looks like a POSIX permissions string apparantly
[02:21] <Seeker`> jonesy_: please watch your language
[02:21] <richardcavell> jonesy_: Calm down, lol!
[02:21] <sage_> how do I view my hard drives
[02:21] <jonesy_> i want to use my computer not fuck about fixing it all the damn time pisses me of is all sorry
[02:21] <mdg> jonesy_: what was your card again?
[02:21] <Prodigy> ok i have halo from reloaded, does that work?
[02:21] <richardcavell> sage_: in what sense 'view'?
[02:21] <iceroot> jonesy_: what your language kid
[02:21] <jonesy_> ATI radon 2600
[02:21] <rww> !attitude | jonesy_
[02:21] <bazhang> jonesy_, no more cursing
[02:21] <sage_> in a file manager
[02:21] <Seeker`> jonesy_: as I have said before, watch your lanaugae
[02:21] <stanley_> hi guys i just installed gdesklets on ubuntu 9.10 and it won;t run...it says Failed to execute child process "gdesklets" (No such file or directory)
[02:22] <mechtech> Sock Puppe?t
[02:22] <richardcavell> sage_: You mean in nautilus?
[02:22] <mechtech> WTF?
[02:22] <sage_> kinda
[02:22] <Prodigy> ok i have halo from reloaded, does that work?
[02:22] <Prodigy> ok i have halo from reloaded, does that work?
[02:22] <iceroot> Prodigy: #winehq
[02:22] <bazhang> Prodigy, check the appdb
[02:22] <sage_> like I want to be able to access and put data in these drives
[02:22] <Prodigy> i did
[02:22] <Prodigy> i am asking u
[02:22] <sebsebseb> !langauge |  mechtech
[02:22] <Prodigy> if my version works
[02:22] <sebsebseb> !caps |  mechtech
[02:22] <bazhang> Prodigy, ask for help in channel #winehq
[02:22] <edbian> sage_: You want to mount them then!
[02:22] <mdg> jonesy_: I'm googling... hold on...
[02:22] <edbian> sage :)
[02:22] <sage_> k
[02:22] <Prodigy> so you cant help me?
[02:22] <sage_> :D
[02:22] <richardcavell> mechtech: it's a wikipedia term.  There is Prodigy, PRDIGY and prgidy and they're all the same guy
[02:22] <iceroot> Prodigy: this is ubuntu-support, not wine-support or ms-game-support
[02:23] <edbian> sage_: Are they unformatted right now?  Do they show up in "computer" ??
[02:23] <Prodigy> you dont know just say that
[02:23] <jonesy_> google knows nothing ive looked
[02:23] <sage_> I gparted them
[02:23] <sage_> edbian,
[02:23] <iceroot> Prodigy: we dont know and we dont care
[02:23] <Prodigy> obviously you dont know
[02:23] <edbian> sage_: gparted is a multipuropse tool.  What did you do to them in gparted??
[02:23] <richardcavell> sage_: are you talking about external hard disks?
[02:23] <mdg> jonesy_: have you tried the app Envy
[02:24] <EagleScreen> hello, anyone can tell me the name of that Gnome application to explore how disk space is used by each folder and file?
[02:24] <sage_> sudo gparted
[02:24] <Prodigy> you wont find help here
[02:24] <Prodigy> they dont care
[02:24] <Prodigy> about your problems
[02:24] <Seeker`> Prodigy: please stop
[02:24] <Prodigy> please START
[02:24] <Prodigy> helping me
[02:24] <Prodigy> thank you
[02:24] <iceroot> Prodigy: can you please join #winehq and stop spaming us? thank you
[02:24] <richardcavell> EagleScreen: baobab
[02:24] <Prodigy> im not spamming, im asking for help
[02:24] <edbian> sage_: PM me :)
[02:24] <th0r> Prodigy: it must be terrible to know that everyone here got things to work but yoiu
[02:24] <Seeker`> Prodigy: you have simply been told that somewhere else may be better suited to your question
[02:24] <iceroot> Prodigy: ask in the right channel
[02:24] <Prodigy> you dont know
[02:24] <jonesy_> MDG no
[02:24] <Prodigy> just admit it
[02:25] <richardcavell> Prodigy's a troll for crying out loud
[02:25] <Prodigy> thanks for not helping me because you are COMPLETELY CLUELESS
[02:25] <Prodigy> thanks for not helping me because you are COMPLETELY CLUELESS
[02:25] <Prodigy> thanks for not helping me because you are COMPLETELY CLUELESS
[02:25] <Prodigy> thanks for not helping me because you are COMPLETELY CLUELESS
[02:25] <Prodigy> thanks for not helping me because you are COMPLETELY CLUELESS
[02:25] <Prodigy> thanks for not helping me because you are COMPLETELY CLUELESS
[02:25] <FloodBot1> Prodigy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:25] <Prodigy> thanks for not helping me because you are COMPLETELY CLUELESS
[02:25] <Prodigy> thanks for not helping me because you are COMPLETELY CLUELESS
[02:25] <mechtech> !trolling | Prodigy
[02:25] <bruenig> hmm
[02:25] <jeremdow> Lancearate: are these file operations on an ext4 drive?
[02:26] <iceroot> always th same with halo-players... :)
[02:26] <mdg> jonesy_: it shouldalready be installed - Envy or EnvyNG
[02:26] <EagleScreen> thanks you
[02:26] <bazhang> mdg, that is not good advice for ati at this point
[02:26] <jonesy_> for some resone my xorg log looks like this now
[02:26] <jonesy_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/240503/
[02:26] <jonesy_> but be for i installed ati driver i had buggy x but it was 1280x1024
[02:27] <mdg> bazhang: I'm not really familiar with ATI ... please advise
[02:28] <shindow> have someone ever used minix
[02:28] <sebsebseb> !ot |  shindow
[02:28] <shindow> i want to run on bochs
[02:28] <shindow> okay
[02:28] <bazhang> mdg, the current support of fglrx (with the exception of radeonhd) is very problematic; users of other cards should just use the radeon OSS driver
[02:28] <brEz> Hey, am I able to use an official Ubuntu CD for VMWare on a Windows machine?
[02:29] <jonesy_> mdg: yes its all installed and uptodate
[02:29] <iceroot> brEz: yes
[02:29] <bazhang> brEz, sure
[02:29] <imgoofygoober> sounds good to me
[02:29] <brEz> How, lol?
[02:29] <dewman> shindow, the bot wont talk back to you..... =)
[02:29] <brEz> I'm new to vmware and I only use the player - so there is no support.
[02:29] <bazhang> brEz, install vmware, get the iso, run it
[02:29] <triplc> mdg: No, not vim forum. In fact, I think it's not because of vim, but because of some hidden changes of distro. (question re-asked)
[02:29] <iceroot> brEz: download the iso, install with vmware, use it
[02:29] <brEz> I have the actual CD.
[02:29] <mdg> bazhang: so jonesy_ should use radeon oss driver?
[02:29] <sebsebseb> brEz: I would recommend Virtualbox, and it can even use vmdk files
[02:29] <triplc> Hello all. How to enable "vim:set ts=4"? I used to set small things like tabstops, syntax... embeded in text file. However, when I started using Jaunty, those "vim:set ts=4" no longer work. I already "apt-get install vim-full", but it still does not work. Maybe it's not because of Jaunty. Anyway. Please help. (question re-asked in busy irc channel)
[02:29] <mechtech> brEz: if it's a live cd, you could boot to the cd to check it out first
[02:29] <sebsebseb> brEz: it's also much better than VMware player
[02:29] <bazhang> brEz, though here would be more Ubuntu support :)
[02:30] <iceroot> brEz: maybe you should try virtualbox, its much easier (and imo better) then vmware
[02:30] <brEz> Nice
[02:30] <brEz> cause I use ubuntu primarily, but my partner always reboots for windows
[02:30] <brEz> gets very annoying :P
[02:30] <bazhang> brEz, ie run windows in a Ubuntu vbox
[02:30] <Lancearate> (reposted) I'm having difficulty with an intermittent hard crash in Ubuntu-9.04 AMD64 when attempting large file operations like backing up to a portable drive (every few minutes), or very intermittently (once or twice weekly) with regular use. Upon hard crash, the machine no longer accepts any incoming ssh connections or responds to existing ssh connections, and (as far as I know) the logs found in /var/log don't contain anyth
[02:30] <sebsebseb> brEz: yep that makes sense, virtual machine Windows inside Ubuntu
[02:30] <mdg> triplc: what version of vim you using?
[02:30] <bazhang> mdg, seems so
[02:30] <brEz> Is virtualbox freeware?
[02:31] <rww> brEz: yes
[02:31] <triplc> I am using Jaunty
[02:31] <bazhang> brEz, open source in Ubuntu repos, free from their site (not open though)
[02:31] <jonesy_> so problematic you cant even set the correct desktop size gezz it should be scraped and put in the bin
[02:31] <mdg> jonesy_: bazhang says to try radeon OSS driver
[02:31] <brEz> its linux based?
[02:31] <ZeroKewl> i need some help magnify thing started itself how do i get it off
[02:31] <jeremdow> Lancearate: are the file operations on an ext4 drive?
[02:31] <brEz> I need something to run on windows > to run ubuntu :)
[02:31] <rww> Lancearate: I don't know much about your problem, but your message is cut off at "don't contain anyth"
[02:31] <triplc> mdg: vim verison 7.2 in Jaunty
[02:31] <bazhang> brEz, there are version for several OSes
[02:31] <brEz> I love you guys
[02:32] <brEz> lol
[02:32] <Lancearate> jeremdow: the root drive is EXT4, but the backup is from an NTFS drive to an NTFS drive
[02:32] <mechtech> brEz: make sure you have a lot of sys resources brfore running virtualbox
[02:32] <mdg> triplc: do vim:set commands get stored in vimrc or somehwere else? _ I don't recall
[02:32] <ubuntu> how do i change my nick?
[02:32] <mechtech> ubuntu /nick
[02:32] <brEz> 320gbhdd/4gb ram, c2d processor
[02:33] <brEz> should be enough :)?
[02:33] <jeremdow> Lancearate: which drive is being written to during the crashes - I actually don't think I can help you - but I'm having very similar issues since reformatting a drive to ext4
[02:33] <ZeroKewl> how i turn magnifiying off
[02:33] <thanks> cool
[02:33] <thanks> so i am testing ubuntu 9.10, but i have a few questions
[02:33] <mechtech> brEz: you're good...I found out the hard way :)
[02:33] <Lancearate> jeremdow: the drive being written to is a network drive on a nearby windows machine
[02:33] <bazhang> ZeroKewl, ctrl scrollwheel? to zoom out?
[02:33] <HardDisk> thanks #ubuntu+1
[02:33] <brEz> with virtualbox, will this allow me to INSTALL and keep ubuntu on there, so i don't lose anything info?
[02:33] <sebsebseb> !9.10 |  thanks
[02:33] <HardDisk> for any questions regarding 9.10
[02:33] <bazhang> brEz, yes
[02:33] <mechtech> brEz: yes
[02:34] <ZeroKewl> its not working
[02:34] <brEz> player doesn't, right :)?
[02:34] <thanks> okay thanks
[02:34] <HardDisk> thanks thanks
[02:34] <thanks> lol
[02:34] <Lancearate> jeremdow: at first I thought it had something to do with EXT4, but the problem persists when attempting to backup using the liveCD instead.. I didn't know CDs used the EXT4 filesystem?
[02:34] <ZeroKewl> its my desktop that is maginifyed
[02:34] <jeremdow> Lancearate: doesn't seem related then - can you reproduce the crashes in any consistent way?
[02:35] <bazhang> ZeroKewl, using compiz?
[02:35] <ZeroKewl> no
[02:35] <Lancearate> jeremdow: yes - every time I have attempted to back up the NTFS drive, a hard crash occurs
[02:35] <ZeroKewl> i was playing a game and i got out of it and it was like this
[02:36] <mechtech> J-O-S-H-U-A: would you like to play a game?
[02:36] <bazhang> ZeroKewl, you mean the resolution has changed?
[02:36] <brEz> I have one of the "request a free CD" copies of Ubuntu, will I be able to use that to install it on virtual box?
[02:36] <ZeroKewl> no
[02:36] <J-O-S-H-U-A> play a game of what?
[02:36] <th0r> mechtech: most of these guys are too young for that joke
[02:36] <bazhang> mechtech, please take jokes etc to #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:36] <ZeroKewl> i can take the mouse to the conners and it will move the screen
[02:36] <ctmjr> ZeroKewl: sounds like the resolution is stuck
[02:36] <mdg> triplc: you lose your settings after exiting vim or after reboot?
[02:36] <ZeroKewl> how i fix that
[02:37] <bazhang> ZeroKewl, sounds like compiz
[02:37] <ZeroKewl> i got it
[02:37] <ZeroKewl> never mind
[02:37] <bazhang> ZeroKewl, try alt f2 metacity --replace
[02:37] <mechtech> J-O-S-H-U-A: watch WarGames sometime
[02:37] <J-O-S-H-U-A> brEz, those discs are the same as the ones that you download... except they come in the mail
[02:37] <ZeroKewl> had to change resoution to a diffrent one then back to what i had
[02:37] <brEz> [;
[02:37] <triplc> mdg: I think vim change behavior after I switch to Ubuntu 9.04. It was OK with 8.04 (I do not use 8.10)
[02:37] <bazhang> ZeroKewl, okay
[02:37] <ZeroKewl> thanks though
[02:38] <J-O-S-H-U-A> I don't have time to watch tv or other frivolous methods of entertainment mechtech
[02:38] <jeremdow> Lancearate - so this is just backing up one ntfs drive to another ntfs drive on a different machine - what are you using to do the backup, rsync?
[02:38] <mechtech> ok
[02:38] <mdg> triplc: does vim stuff also get saved to bashrc?
[02:39] <triplc> mdg: bashrc? no. I do not have ~/.vimrc as personal setting
[02:39] <Lancearate> jeremdow: I've tried samba using nautilus and simply cut and paste, sftp, and ftp
[02:39] <jonesy_> l@@k it has the wrong settings
[02:39] <jonesy_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/240533/
[02:39] <jonesy_> why ?
[02:39] <mdg> triplc: no .bashrc or .vimrc?
[02:40] <triplc> no .vimrc, but I have .bashrc
[02:40] <edbian> If I have a guest OS running in a virtual machine using virtual box is there some setting I must change to allow the VM to ping?
[02:40] <Dr_Willis> you can make a .vimrc :) or use tye system wide vimrc as a example.
[02:40] <jzilla> long live ubuntu
[02:40] <mdg> triplc: you don't like .vimrc?
[02:40] <jonesy_> i dont like linux
[02:41] <jfeole> hello
[02:41] <triplc> mdg: .vimrc is ok, but some setting (like tabstop, syntax) are different from text file to text file
[02:41] <jonesy_> i find it very buggy and hard to geta long with
[02:41] <mdg> Dr_Willis: where abouts would the systemwide vimrc be?
[02:41] <jonesy_> ive spent 3 days trying to set my screen to 1280x1024
[02:41] <Dr_Willis> mdg:  use 'locate vimrc'
[02:41] <Dr_Willis> mdg:  to find it.
[02:41] <th0r> jonesy_: Contrary to popular belief, Linux is user friendly. It just happens to be selective about who it makes friends with.
[02:41] <sebsebseb> jonesy_: uh you mean Ubuntu,  there are other ones by the way, also Linux is just a kernel
[02:41] <sebsebseb> !linux |  jonesy_
[02:41] <sebsebseb> !distro |  jonesy_
[02:42] <jeremdow> Lancearate: even cut and paste through nautilus via samba crashes it? yeah, I'd say you need to enable some logging for samba, to figure out what's happening but not sure how to do that off hand - samba is going to be involved no matter how you're copying to a windows share - seems like the common denominator
[02:42] <mdg> ah /usr/share/vimrc
[02:42] <sebsebseb> jonesy_: and other ones
[02:42] <twig11> How do I remove the Windows boot option from grub? I installed ubuntu on one internal drive while leaving Windows installed on the other. After importing the users files from the windows drive, I formatted it to EXT3, but Windows XP still shows up as an option when I boot. How can I fix this?
[02:42] <jfeole> Thor -Yup.. ;)
[02:42] <jonesy_> all shit
[02:42] <mechtech> jonesy_: I'm harkening back to DOS through WinME everytime I hear someone say that! LOL
[02:42] <twig11> !wtf > jonesy
[02:42] <sebsebseb> jonesy_: which ones have you tried?
[02:42] <Lancearate> jeremdow: I would agree, but I've experienced the crash when attempting the backup using ftp between the windows machine and the linux machine
[02:43] <Lancearate> jeremdow: I had assumed ftp was entirely separate from samba
[02:43] <jonesy_> al them
[02:43] <jonesy_> and some yellow and blak dogs
[02:43] <mdg> bazhang: does jonesy_ use flgrx to setup Radeon Oss?
[02:43] <sebsebseb> jonesy_: obviously not since over  300 distros,  in fact I think  your just trolling now
[02:43] <bazhang> mdg, no, fglrx is the proprietary one
[02:43] <jonesy_>  fglrx is made by ATI
 all crap like get obver it
[02:45] <twig11> !language > jonesy_
[02:45] <jonesy_> it dont matter if you had 20000000000 crap things there still all crap
[02:45] <mechtech> Bunch of WHINERS in here tonight...pull yourself up by the bootstraps and get something accomplished, and LOSE the ATI cards because ATI has abandoned you.  Laterzzz...I'm out for Chinese food.
[02:45] <sebsebseb> twig11: I was going to do that, but showing in the channal
[02:45] <phyrrus> hello
[02:45] <sebsebseb> !troll |  jonesy_
[02:45] <jnc_> What package is supposed to contain pygtk for python2.6?
[02:45] <jnc_> Package search for "pygtk" returns nothing at all!
[02:46] <rww> jnc_: try python-gtk?
[02:46] <jonesy_> sebsebsed you come on here and set my desktop to 1280x1024
[02:46] <jnc_> That's for python2.5
[02:46] <jeremdow> Lancearate: well it would be - which machine is actually the ftp server? I thought you're using an ubuntu box to move files between two windows machines? Also, did you check /var/log/samba?
[02:47] <twig11> ﻿How do I remove the Windows boot option from grub? I installed ubuntu on one internal drive while leaving Windows installed on the other. After importing the users files from the windows drive, I formatted it to EXT3, but Windows XP still shows up as an option when I boot. How can I fix this?
[02:47] <sebsebseb> jonesy_: which graphics card?
[02:47] <iddo> when i try to modprobe coretemp i get "no such device", anyone can help?
[02:47] <Dr_Willis> twig11:  the items in the grub menu are defined in the menu.lst file
[02:47] <sebsebseb> twig11: gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:47] <bazhang> twig11, edit grub menu.lst
[02:47] <jnc_> When I try to run rhythmbox it searches for it in /usr/lib/python2.6
[02:47] <Dr_Willis> twig11:  the fact you removed the actual OS.. dosent change that file :)
[02:48] <jonesy_> radon 2600
[02:48] <Lancearate> jeremdow: I didn't know /var/log/samba existed. What I'm attempting to do is transfer files from an ubuntu machine with an NTFS drive to a windows machine with an ntfs drive.. I've attempted to do this with an ftp server on the linux machine, a samba connection between the two machines, and a sftp server via the linux machine
[02:48] <sebsebseb> jonesy_: any driver under  system > administaration > hardware drivers   for the card if so install it
[02:48] <Lancearate> jeremdow: I've also attempted to use samba via the livecd and mounting only the NTFS hard drive
[02:48] <twig11> Dr_Willis: That makes sense, but I'm new. How do I change it?
[02:48] <sebsebseb> jonesy_: and if not,  I guess your card isn't that Linux friendly, which isn't our fault
[02:49] <root_> wawa
[02:49] <jonesy_> this driver is active
[02:49] <sebsebseb> jonesy_: and it's not the fault of Linux distros either,  in fact a lot of hardware  support has been reverse enginered, because of lack of  manufacture support, but that's changing more as times goes on :)
[02:49] <twig11> bazhang: Dr_Willis: sorry didn't see that response by bazhang
[02:49] <Dr_Willis> twig11:  the menu.lst file is just a text file.. the windows menu entry is at the bottom. :) BACKUP your original just in case
[02:50] <Dr_Willis> twig11:  thats the joy of linux.. most everythingis a text based config file :P
[02:50] <sebsebseb> !xorg |  jonesy_
[02:50] <jonesy_> i just done a xrandr --output LVDS --mode 1280x1024 and nothing
[02:50] <jonesy_> still the same
[02:51] <sebsebseb> jonesy_: try Ubuntu 8.10  maybe,  since  it may work there
[02:51] <sebsebseb> jonesy_: and 8.04 even, which has a differtnet version of xorg
[02:51] <killazzz> hi
[02:51] <sebsebseb> jonesy_: there was  someone earlier,  who  had a card that woudn't work on 9.04 with the OpenGL support and all that, but it would work in 8.10
[02:52] <killazzz> is it safe to use this chat ?
[02:52] <jeremdow> Lancearate: I see - check for that log - but if the NTFS drive is on the linux machine, then samba wouldn't be involved in an ftp transfer - I was still thinking ext4 - but the livecd rules that out too - I'm stumped for the moment
[02:52] <bazhang> killazzz, of course
[02:53] <edbian> killazzz: It's deadly in here ;)
[02:53] <Lancearate> jeremdow: thanks anyways for your help.. I'll ask the chat again in 30 minutes
[02:53] <jonesy_> great well ill down grade then
[02:53] <killazzz> ebian what do u mean its deadly ?
[02:53] <sebsebseb> !md5sum | jonesy_
[02:53] <J-O-S-H-U-A> how do i install all the codecs?
[02:54] <jonesy_> !uninstall
[02:54] <edbian> killazzz: I was just kidding :)
[02:54] <killazzz> ok lol i was nervous for a sec.
[02:54] <sebsebseb> jonesy_: to make sure the ISO is good and   you want  the 8.10/intrepid section in  http://releases.ubuntu.com   of course it might not work in 8.10 or 8.04 either, but it's worth a try
[02:55] <sebsebseb> jonesy_: also  8.10  in certain ways is better than 9.04,  and with Ubuntu it's not about what is the latest, it's about what is supported
[02:55] <sebsebseb> !8.10 |  jonesy_
[02:55] <msds1502> How do you copy information from the terminal?
[02:55] <sebsebseb> jonesy_: supported untill next April on the desktop I think
[02:55] <edbian> msds1502: Highlight it and right click -> copy
[02:56] <rww> msds1502: or Ctrl-Shift-V in gnome-terminal
[02:56] <rww> msds1502: sorry, Ctrl-Shift-C
[02:56] <killazzz> is it a way to boost resolution on a minilaptop and is it dangerous for the heat ?
[02:56] <msds1502> edbian: Wow i feel stupid :p
[02:56] <mdg> sebsebseb: thanks for helping jonesy_  :)
[02:56] <edbian> msds1502: lol
[02:56] <edbian> !sebsebseb++
[02:57] <edbian> sebsebseb: Wrong channel! :P
[02:57] <sebsebseb> edbian: indeed
[02:57] <wiz_of_ha> how do i install all the codecs?
[02:57] <Maahes> hey guys question
[02:57] <sebsebseb> mdg: yeah :)
[02:57] <edbian> Hey Maahes Possible answer:  14?
[02:57] <jefinc> !ask
[02:57] <bazhang> !codecs > wiz_of_ha
[02:57] <Maahes> err, wait this is the support channel nvm
[02:57] <iceroot> edbian: 42
[02:57] <edbian> I shoulda known that!
[02:58] <edbian> iceroot: It is the answer to everything!
[02:58] <sebsebseb> edbian: heh
[02:58] <wiz_of_ha> thanks botboy
[02:58] <slimjim> hello
[02:58] <iceroot> edbian: yes, lets close this channel, only ubottu will post 42 to everyone :)
[02:58] <edbian> ha ha ha
[02:58] <edbian> If you think about it long enough it does solve all problems
[02:58] <SuspectZero> whats the best way to burn a video dvd?
[02:58] <bazhang> !ot
[02:58] <SuspectZero> in ubuntu
[02:58] <SuspectZero> i have k3b but it doesnt do the trick
[02:58] <sebsebseb> !best |  SuspectZero
[02:59] <wiz_of_ha> i bet the bot knows the best whay to burn a dvd
[02:59] <iceroot> SuspectZero: with copy-protection?
[02:59] <bazhang> SuspectZero, devede
[02:59] <slimjim> i have a problem, when installing sun-java6-jre in Synaptic i get the following error: E: /var/cache/apt/archives/sun-java6-bin_6-14-0ubuntu1.9.04_amd64.deb: corrupted filesystem tarfile - corrupted package archive
[02:59] <JaVak> http://blog.onlinecheapharmacy.com/  ----> http://www.onlinecheapharmacy.com/
[02:59] <SuspectZero> iceroot, noo the files are avi's so i need a program that will convert them and everything
[02:59] <LjL> slimjim: well try "sudo apt-get clean" and then redownloading it
[02:59] <slimjim> downloaded the file after searching gogole with same error
[03:00] <slimjim> LjL i think the released package is corrupted
[03:00] <th0r> SuspectZero: devede
[03:01] <SuspectZero> th0r, i'll check it out
[03:02] <slimjim> LjL, trying what you said just in case
[03:03] <shazbotmcnasty> Hey there again, I cannot connect to localhost, and I have no idea how to fix this, I can ping localhost, but I can't http://localhost, or /connect localhost.
[03:03] <slimjim> wow it worked
[03:03] <slimjim> thanks
[03:05] <sage_> edbian,
[03:05] <sage_> I got some bad news
[03:05] <sage_> it works
[03:05] <sage_> haha thanks
[03:05] <jeremdow> Lancearate: If you're still there, I was curious about your problem - one of these is a portable drive, usb? Are you certain it's NTFS and not FAT32 formatted - could just be the 4GB file size limit - as here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-vfs2/+bug/70535
[03:05] <Gos> noo sleep for me tonight
[03:06] <Gos> to damn awake
[03:06] <Zxcvb> would there be any problems with running ubuntu/kubuntu on a different system than it was installed and first run on (such as installing and updating on a desktop, then moving the hard drive to a netbook)?
[03:06] <edbian> sage_: How's that bad new?!?!
[03:06] <edbian> sage_: Not fair to freak me out like that! :)
[03:06] <sebsebseb> Gos: time? and from?
[03:07] <ubuntu_> when will ubuntu get firefox 3.5
[03:07] <Gos> 4 oclock +1 gmt netherlands
[03:07] <ubuntu_> ?
[03:07] <sebsebseb> Gos: cool :)
[03:07] <Gos> you?
[03:07] <bazhang> ubuntu_, it has it already
[03:07] <ubuntu_> oh?
[03:07] <bazhang> !ff35 | ubuntu_
[03:07] <sebsebseb> Gos: go pm if you want to chat
[03:07] <toothdecay> :)\
[03:07] <ubuntu_> i saw that coming...
[03:07] <sebsebseb> Gos: since the strict off topic rule and all that
[03:08] <ubuntu_> oh the irony of the bot...
[03:09] <brez1> gdfg
[03:09] <jeremdow> ubuntu_: Or install with Ubuntuzilla - and you get the firefox branding, updates from Mozilla: http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2009/07/15/install-firefox-35-in-ubuntu-904-using-ubuntuzilla/
[03:09] <bazhang> jeremdow, no need for that its in repos
[03:09] <brEz> Ya, I'm pumped ;) now i got ubuntu on my regular desktop!!!
[03:10] <brEz> without the need to fire up the other machine!
[03:10] <bazhang> jeremdow, best to always stay within package manager
[03:10] <ubuntu_> good job brEz
[03:10] <DasEi> DiViN3 has a dedicate server, accessable via ssh, and wants to setup vhost, who can help ?
[03:10] <brEz> I wish I knew about virtualbox 4yrs ago :P
[03:11] <sebsebseb> brEz: yeah it's great :)
[03:11] <jeremdow> bazhang: agreed, but without the shiretoko branding? what packages?
[03:11] <brEz> I've always had ubuntu on my laptop and either vnc's or ssh into it, bit of a pain!!
[03:12] <sebsebseb> brEz: ah ok
[03:12] <DiViN3> DasEi : is there any easier way to add 64 ips in 1 go
[03:12] <m0r0n> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/240596/       I can't seem to get the Wine Beta to install can anyone help me?
[03:12] <ubuntu_> i just carry ubuntu around with me on a flash drive...
[03:13] <nexsja> what's the purpouse of /usr/local/games folder?
[03:13] <nexsja> does it do anything? o_O
[03:13] <m0r0n> nexsja:  I assume to install game into so your more organized? I'm not sure
[03:13] <ubuntu_> nexsja, not sure but I am guessing it is where the games store your local settings
[03:14] <nexsja> well i my case that's an empty dir... so...
[03:14] <nexsja> useless dir?
[03:14] <Maahes> nexsja, its where locally installed games go
[03:15] <ubuntu_> yeah sure useless. go ahead and bork your system. the developers put that there for nothing
[03:15] <edbian> nexsja: unused maybe, but not useless
[03:15] <SuspectZero> th0r, bazhang thanks for the devede suggestion
[03:16] <m0r0n> Can anyone help me?
[03:16] <sebsebseb> !anyone |  m0r0n
[03:16] <m0r0n> I already did
[03:16] <nevyn> !lastlog m0r0n
[03:16] <m0r0n> Everyone ignored it I assume then
[03:16] <nevyn> oops...
[03:16] <sebsebseb> m0r0n: ah ok nevermind then
[03:16] <m0r0n> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/240596/       I can't seem to get the Wine Beta to install can anyone help me?
[03:16] <bazhang> m0r0n, with the wine repos?
[03:16] <ubuntu_> does the bot ever shut up?
[03:17] <bazhang> ubuntu_, please take chat elsewhere
[03:17] <computer> how do i find out what folders/files are being shared?
[03:17] <ubuntu_> you are rather hostile bazhang is it my name that you don't like?
[03:17] <thiebaude> !offtopic
[03:18] <bazhang> ubuntu_, this is support only; chat in #ubuntu-offtopic thanks
[03:18] <ubuntu_> well you have failed to support me with the bot issue so i don't see how this is the support channel
[03:18] <jiffe99> I've added a disk to a virtual machine I have setup in vmware, anyone know if I can use it without rebooting
[03:19] <m0r0n> bazhang: sebsebseb:     Have any idea?
[03:19] <bazhang> m0r0n, using the wine repos?
[03:19] <Gos> mount?
[03:19] <edbian> jiffe99: If it is listed in the output of "sudo fdisk -l" then you can mount it
[03:20] <jiffe99> it doesn't look like it
[03:20] <m0r0n> bazhang: I don't want to use the repos (If what your talking about is what I'm thinking), because I want to install the beta
[03:20] <jiffe99> only seeing sda*
[03:20] <Gos> mount -a?
[03:20] <computer> how do i find out what folders/files are being shared?
[03:20] <bazhang> m0r0n, wine has their own set of 3rd party repositories for the very latest version of wine
[03:20] <phyrrus> m0r0n: sudo apt-get install wine
[03:20] <edbian> computer: samba shared?
[03:20] <jiffe99> I'm thinking I need to rescan the scsi bus?
[03:21] <twig11> Dr_Willis: Can I delete everything listed here: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m3d321bd
[03:21] <Necrogami> how can i find / get to show a external usb hd in fdisk .. after plugging it in nothing shows up
[03:21] <twig11> ?
[03:21] <james_> if i have programs in the taskbar, is there a way to force them into my indicator-applet?
[03:21] <love_> mount your hard disk
[03:22] <Necrogami> love_ /dev/sdb doesn't exist
[03:22] <Necrogami> fdisk -l only shows sda
[03:22] <computer> yeah
[03:22] <love_> ohh
[03:22] <m0r0n> bazhang:  Someone from #winehq told me how I think I'm set from here on, thanks anyways
[03:22] <phyrrus> ok
[03:22] <m0r0n> I had to use the command "./configre"
[03:23] <bazhang> m0r0n, okay
[03:23] <love_> can i know ur label of disk
[03:23] <Necrogami> label?
[03:23] <love_> it has <space> between name
[03:23] <brEz> install already :)
[03:23] <DasEi> Necrogami: lsusb ?
[03:23] <danbhfive> m0r0n: http://www.winehq.org/download/deb
[03:24] <Necrogami> 4 hubs
[03:24] <Necrogami> no devices
[03:24] <DasEi> Necrogami: is it a flash or hd ?
[03:24] <Necrogami> HD
[03:24] <Necrogami> Maxtor 500gb
[03:25] <DasEi> Necrogami: you hear it spinning ? your usb is enabled in bios ?
[03:25] <m0r0n> danbhfive: Last time I tried that I got the stable version, I want the Beta
[03:25] <Necrogami> yes and yes
[03:25] <Necrogami> it was just plugged into windows
[03:25] <Necrogami> it works there
[03:25] <Necrogami> So i know the drive works
[03:25] <Necrogami> and i use a usb legacy keyboard on the system
[03:25] <love_> Necrogami : what's label of ur disk means name
[03:25] <Necrogami> so usb works on the system
[03:25] <DiViN3> anyone can help me for setting up own name servers
[03:26] <danbhfive> m0r0n: well, I dunno, last time I tried, I got their dev releases fine..
[03:26] <Necrogami> the name of the drive .. is nothing ...
[03:26] <m0r0n> danbhfive: Could be so, I just am new to all of this
[03:26] <Necrogami> On windows it shows up just as local disk .. no name specified
[03:26] <twig11> Will someone please take a quick look here http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m3d321bd and tell me if I'm safe editing out everything included there from menu.lst if the windows partition no longer exists?
[03:27] <sebsebseb> m0r0n: their wine repo gets you the latest version,  which is a beta or development
[03:27] <Flynsarmy> where are the deluge settings saved? it's not ~/.deluge
[03:27] <danbhfive> m0r0n: well, if you like to try again, there are commands you can try to figure out if it is working.  It will be easier if you get the repo working, since it will auto-update.  If you build it yourself, you will have to update it yourself everytime.
[03:27] <thiebaude> twig11, are you dual booting?
 : use this-  mount -t ntfs-3g/dev/sdc1/media/local\ Disk -o force
[03:28] <FloridaGuy> what causes firefox to close when it wants
[03:28] <mdg> hi deexannihilate !
[03:28] <deexannihilate> mdg: hi! :)
[03:28] <Shinobi> hey, had to hard reset my computer after a program hung(ndiswrapper) not ubuntu wont load at all
[03:28] <Necrogami> love: it's not NTFS
[03:28] <Shinobi> hey, had to hard reset my computer after a program hung(ndiswrapper) now* ubuntu wont load at all
[03:29] <mdg> deexannihilate: hows the acer?
[03:29] <m0r0n> danbhfive: sebsebseb:  Am I supposed to check the one with (Source Code)
[03:29] <shazbotmcnasty> Hey there again, I cannot connect to localhost, and I have no idea how to fix this, I can ping localhost, but I can't http://localhost, or /connect localhost.
[03:29] <love_> it's fat partition
[03:29] <sebsebseb> m0r0n: your pastebin looks a bit odd,  were you trying to  add http://www.winehq.org repo for  Ubuntu ?
[03:29] <twig11> thiebaude: no. I installed Ubuntu on one internal drive, while leaving windows on the other. After importing user files from the Windows drive, I formatted it to EXT3. Now I just want to remove the entry from my boot menu. Is that the right selection to delete from menu.lst?
[03:29] <Necrogami> never mind
[03:29] <Necrogami> i stand corrected
[03:29] <Necrogami> it is ntfs
[03:29] <Necrogami> sorry guys
[03:30] <FloodBot1> Necrogami: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:30] <sebsebseb> !repos | m0r0n
[03:30] <m0r0n> sebsebseb:  Ok before I just make myself feel like more of a dumbass, mind explaining what the repositories are?
[03:30] <thiebaude> twig11, im not sure about that one
[03:30] <sebsebseb> m0r0n: just got the bot  to before I  read your message
[03:30] <Necrogami> Linux can;'t find the Drive at all
[03:30] <twig11> ﻿Will someone please take a quick look here http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m3d321bd and tell me if I'm safe editing out everything included there from menu.lst if the windows partition no longer exists?
[03:31] <Necrogami> in the /dev folder the ONLY drive is SDA
[03:31] <sebsebseb> twig11: if you don't want to have an entry for Windows anymore,  just delete the entry for it from the file
[03:31] <mazda01> i just installed mythbuntu jaunty and all the letters and text is coming in screwed up and letters are garbled in words making them not words. it's the weird thing I've ever seen! the livecd works fine though?? any thought? I can't even try to fix itif it may be an xorg issue because the screen is unreadbable>
[03:31] <sebsebseb> twig11: now i'll give your pastebin a quick glance
[03:31] <mehul_yadav> firefox shuts down automatically
[03:32] <mehul_yadav> Firefox Shuts Down Automatically
[03:32] <mehul_yadav> help
[03:32] <twig11> sebsebseb: I know. I'm trying to do that. I just want someone to double-check that I'm deleting only what I want to delete and no more. Can you do that?
[03:32] <danbhfive> m0r0n: repos are sources of software.  Its like going to a website to get programs, except its all done behind the scenes.  When you add a repo, the available software is listed in apt and synaptic along side your other programs
[03:32] <mdg> deexannihilate: ? you're quiet tonight...
[03:32]  * james_ is back (gone 39:22:14)
[03:32] <Shinobi> hey, had to hard reset my computer after a program hung(ndiswrapper) now ubuntu wont load at all
[03:32] <mazda01> like, if I type in daniel, it comes out as adinlel. SUPER WEIRD!!
[03:32] <Shinobi> need help plz :(
[03:33] <thiebaude> twig11, i messed up one time on my menu.list file and i didn't want to say delete your entry
[03:33] <sebsebseb> twig11: yep that's what you delete
[03:33] <mehul_yadav> Firefox Shuts Down Automatically
[03:33] <twig11> sebsebseb: thanks!
[03:33] <vicky_> ........... is there anyway u can put a mini search windows xp on linex???
[03:33] <mdg> mazda01: maybe you got a dvorak keyboard layout?
[03:33] <mazda01> one the screen where the word WARRENTY is, it reads RAARTNYt. what the heck?
[03:33] <mehul_yadav> Firefox Shuts Down Automatically
[03:33] <sebsebseb> twig11: no prob.  even the bit about  it being an automatic add can go, but may as well keep that in
[03:34] <deexannihilate> mdg: not any better!
[03:34] <thiebaude> sebsebseb, and i noticed that is at the end of the boot file
[03:34] <shazbotmcnasty> poo
[03:34] <mehul_yadav> Firefox Shuts Down Automatically
[03:34] <mdg> deexannihilate: sorry to hear that
[03:34] <deexannihilate> mdg: sorry, i realized I had a lot of stuff to do! i'll be back shortly
[03:34] <Necrogami> love_: http://e501.bsap.ws/images/dev.png
[03:34] <sebsebseb> thiebaude: boot file?  you mean menu.lst file?
[03:34] <mdg> deexannihilate: okay
[03:34] <shazbotmcnasty> I want to use bitlbee how it's intended to be used, but I cannot connect to localhost
[03:34] <thiebaude> yep
[03:34] <mattwj2002> hi guys
[03:34] <mattwj2002> I am back
[03:34] <mehul_yadav> Firefox Shuts Down Automatically
[03:34] <shazbotmcnasty> should I forward a port or something? I have no idea what to do
[03:34] <mdg> shazbotmcnasty: lol - funny name :)
[03:35] <mattwj2002> wireless problems again......I can't create an adhoc network to save my life :(
[03:35] <shazbotmcnasty> D:
[03:35] <shazbotmcnasty> :)
[03:35] <mehul_yadav> My Firefox Shuts Down Automatically.................can anyone solve this problem?
[03:35] <mehul_yadav> My Firefox Shuts Down Automatically.................can anyone solve this problem?
[03:36] <shazbotmcnasty> what are you doing while it shuts down?
[03:36] <mattwj2002> is it possible my nic doesn't support this?
[03:36] <mehul_yadav> surfing some sites
[03:36] <danbhfive> mehul_yadav: what site?
[03:36] <shazbotmcnasty> i figured so much.... what kind of sites?
[03:36] <mehul_yadav> facebook, zedge
[03:37] <shazbotmcnasty> do you have a video driver installed?
[03:37] <mehul_yadav> i cannot view youtube vidoes because it says adobe flash player not installed
[03:38] <shazbotmcnasty> install it...
[03:38] <Andorin> I downloaded a pack of .png images for a theme from here: http://art.gnome.org/themes/gtk2 Where do I stick them?
[03:38] <sebsebseb> mehul_yadav: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[03:38] <mehul_yadav> i have done this
[03:38] <mattwj2002> anyone know the answer to my problem?
[03:38] <mattwj2002> :-s
[03:38] <mehul_yadav> but its not working
[03:38] <sebsebseb> !find flash
[03:39] <sebsebseb> mehul_yadav: maybe you need that flash installer package instead
[03:39] <shazbotmcnasty> mehul_yadav, http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/
[03:39] <sebsebseb> mehul_yadav: search for Flash in synaptic and see what comes up
[03:39] <mehul_yadav> how do i get it?
[03:39] <dragonlotus> hi all, I'm trying to use a WPA2 passphrase to connect to a hidden wifi network at my house.  When I type the passphrase in, it matches the one displayed on my router page.  However, after trying to connect (and failing do to authorization) it spits back a huge string of hex.  Does my passphrase get converted to hex?  How can I stop this or is that supposed to happen?
[03:39] <sebsebseb> mehul_yadav   shazbotmcnasty    ,best to get stuff like this form the repo, not directly from the website
[03:39] <sebsebseb> with the exception of 64bit
[03:39] <sebsebseb> since there's meant to be a really good version of  Flash for 64bit out there, which isn't in the repo
[03:39] <mehul_yadav> ok
[03:40] <shazbotmcnasty> I see.
[03:40] <mehul_yadav> which version do i go for ?
[03:40] <sebsebseb> mehul_yadav: 32bit or 64bit?
[03:40] <mattwj2002> !help
[03:40] <thiebaude> mehul_yadav, flash 10
[03:40] <DiViN3> anyone can help me , i m getting error :  * Stopping domain name service... bind9
[03:40] <DiViN3> rndc: connect failed: 127.0.0.1#953: connection refused
[03:40] <m0r0n> danbhfive: http://www.winehq.org/download/deb I tried doing that, I got to the Authing part, I cannot seem to get that part working though
[03:40] <DiViN3> any idea any one
[03:40] <sebsebseb> mehul_yadav: open synaptic and search for Flash,  I think it's t he installer package you want or something like that
[03:40] <mattwj2002> !ad-hoc
[03:41] <Kai`> Is there a tool alreadt in Ubuntu to rar/unrar that I don't know about, or do I need to install 'rar' and 'unrar' packages?
[03:41] <mattwj2002> :(
[03:41] <Andorin> I downloaded a pack of .png images for a theme from here: http://art.gnome.org/themes/gtk2 Where do I stick them?
[03:41] <DiViN3> !bind9
[03:41] <sebsebseb> mehul_yadav: something has changed or try this even.  sudo apt-get install  ubuntu-restricted-extras  this will give people java, and  avi, and mp3, and such as well
[03:41] <danbhfive> m0r0n: what went wrong?
[03:41] <DiViN3> !bind
[03:41] <mehul_yadav> wait let me try
[03:41] <m0r0n> danbhfive:  It's saving as a html instead of a gpg? or whatever it is
[03:41] <mdg> deexannihilate: Hope you see this - I was going to suggest you back up everything and reinstall 9.04, then follow #8 here > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1141529&highlight=acer+aspire+one+wifi+driver
[03:41] <mdg> deexannihilate: gotta go
[03:41] <DiViN3> hello anyone here can help me with bind9 problem plz
[03:41] <bcl_> this is way better than puppy
[03:42] <danbhfive> m0r0n: wget -q http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/387EE263.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[03:42] <sebsebseb> bcl_: many versions of Puppy Linux to choose from, and they are really for older hardware
[03:42] <hoonteke> anyone know what text browser I could install on a jeos installation?  lynx doesn't appear to be in the default distro repos ...
[03:42] <mazda01> i think I have an irq conflict. any suggestions how to fix? i ahev my nvidia card sharing a irq with one of my tv cards. i notice that irq 4 isn't even being used.
[03:42] <mattwj2002> hey does anyone know the easiest way to create an ad hoc internet sharing system?
[03:42] <sebsebseb> hoonteke: jeos????  Ubuntu based?
[03:42] <hoonteke> yesh
[03:43] <mattwj2002> using ubuntu?
[03:43] <hoonteke> yeah
[03:43] <mehul_yadav> there are many flash options on synaptic
[03:43] <sebsebseb> hoonteke: this channel is  for Ubuntu support, not other distros
[03:43] <Shinobi> hey, had to hard reset my computer after a program hung(ndiswrapper)during the shutdown the computer froze at the progress bar loadin down, after i held the power button down and restarted it, ubuntu wont load at all
[03:43] <sebsebseb> hoonteke: ,but  lynx  links  and I think there's another as well
[03:43] <hoonteke> sebsebseb: urm, isn't jeos based on ubuntu?
[03:43] <Andorin> I downloaded a pack of .png images for a theme from here: http://art.gnome.org/themes/gtk2 Where do I stick them?
[03:43] <thiebaude> mehul_yadav, adobe-flashplugin
[03:44] <sebsebseb> hoonteke: according  to  that person  yes, but  your not meant to come here and get support for Ubuntu based distros
[03:44] <sebsebseb> hoonteke: that person?  uh that was you as well
[03:44] <hoonteke> urm sorry.  I didn't realize that jeos didn't count.
[03:45] <sebsebseb> hoonteke: does jeos have it's own support channel?
[03:45] <hoonteke> nope
[03:45] <hoonteke> redirects to #ubuntu-jeos
[03:45] <hoonteke> and I'm the only one there
[03:45] <sebsebseb> hoonteke: oh well you can use ##linux   the general Linux channal
[03:45] <hoonteke> alright, ciao
[03:45] <mehul_yadav> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[03:45] <mehul_yadav> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[03:45] <mehul_yadav> Result for (sudo apt-get install  ubuntu-restricted-extras)
[03:46] <hoonteke> mehul_yadav: are you sure you haven't got another instance of apt running?
[03:46] <hoonteke> perhaps another synaptic, or apt-get from the command lne?
[03:46] <shazbotmcnasty> close the package manager mehul_yadav
[03:46] <mehul_yadav> am trying to install the flash components right now
[03:47] <mehul_yadav> by using the synaptic
[03:47] <shazbotmcnasty> okay, well wait until it's done, then close synaptic
[03:47] <hoonteke> only one instance of the package manager is allowed to run, either apt-get, or synaptic, or the add-remove program dialog.  In the background, they're all apt-get, and you only want one of those working on the database of installed osftware.
[03:47] <shazbotmcnasty> then do  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[03:48] <mehul_yadav> ok
[03:48] <shazbotmcnasty> or you can install that through synaptic as well...
[03:49] <stowaway> yo. im trying to mount my network drive so it mounts at startup. its a nas drive with a unix system. but im not sure of the file system.. how do i go about mounting it? when i try mount 192.168.0.2:/volume_1 /mnt/nas  it says wrong fs
[03:49] <Andorin> I downloaded a pack of .png images for a theme from here: http://art.gnome.org/themes/gtk2 Where do I stick them?
[03:49] <mehul_yadav> sha256sum mismatch install_flash player_10_linux.tar.gz
[03:49] <mehul_yadav> The Flash plugin is NOT installed
[03:50] <thiebaude> mehul_yadav, maybe you should go to the adobe website and download the .deb for flash
[03:50] <shazbotmcnasty> it's never not worked for me that way, I suggest that, although other people disagree.
[03:51] <mehul_yadav> i tried downloading from the adobe website too
[03:51] <thiebaude> programs can be download to ubuntu using several ways
[03:51] <shazbotmcnasty> mehul_yadav, which one did you get?
[03:51] <mehul_yadav> but when i go for installing it
[03:51] <m0r0n> sebsebseb: danbhfive:  Thank you both. It's working
[03:51] <mehul_yadav> it says wrong architeture
[03:51] <sebsebseb> m0r0n: good and no probs :)
[03:51] <thiebaude> mehul_yadav, you got 64bit?
[03:52] <mehul_yadav> where do i get the 64-bit version of flash ?
[03:52] <mehul_yadav> i followed the link on youtube
[03:52] <sebsebseb> thiebaude  mehul_yadav   maybe the version of Flash in the repo is  good enough now even for 64bit
[03:52] <mehul_yadav> and then downloaded the ubuntu 8.04 version
[03:53] <thiebaude> sebsebseb, i agree
[03:53] <sebsebseb> thiebaude:   mehul_yadav  well really the repo Flash would be good enough for most
[03:53] <Andorin> Can someone please help me with installing a control theme for GNOME?
[03:53] <mehul_yadav> how to i get the repo flash?
[03:53] <thiebaude> mehul_yadav, did you enable 3rd party repositories?
[03:53] <sebsebseb> mehul_yadav: have you run  in  the termianl
[03:53] <sebsebseb> mehul_yadav: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[03:53] <mehul_yadav> yes i did run in the terminal
[03:54] <sebsebseb> no question mark
[03:54] <sebsebseb> mehul_yadav:   and  no Flash still?
[03:54] <mehul_yadav> ubuntu-restricted-extras is already the newest version.
[03:54] <mehul_yadav> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 4 not upgraded.
[03:54] <FloridaGuy> ? what causes firefox to close when it wants ?
[03:54] <sebsebseb> mehul_yadav: ok
[03:54] <sebsebseb> FloridaGuy: Firefox  or  Shiretoko ?
[03:54] <mehul_yadav> firefox
[03:54] <thiebaude> mehul_yadav, did you restart firefox?
[03:55] <mehul_yadav> doing it
[03:55] <mehul_yadav> trying to view youtube videos
[03:55] <thiebaude> ok
[03:56] <mehul_yadav> still i cant see the video......
[03:56] <FloridaGuy> sebsebseb, firefox
[03:56] <thiebaude> mehul_yadav, is it just a blank video?
[03:56] <sebsebseb> FloridaGuy: Firefox can be a bit bad under Linux, or well  Ubuntu at least
[03:56] <mehul_yadav> only difference now is that it did ask me to install flashplayer
[03:56] <sebsebseb> FloridaGuy: Flash maybe  got it close
[03:56] <Andorin> Can someone please help me with installing a control theme for GNOME?
[03:56] <thiebaude> mehul_yadav, yes
[03:56] <mehul_yadav> the part neat the video screen is blank white
[03:57] <mehul_yadav> with the video player absent
[03:57] <shazbotmcnasty> mehul_yadav, run firefox in terminal and see if it gives you any error messages when it closes
[03:57] <FloridaGuy> sebsebseb, think its all linux
[03:57] <mehul_yadav> how do i run firefox in the terminal?
[03:57]  * sebsebseb Flash can  cause quite a few  issues  with  Firefox  in Ubuntu
[03:57] <shazbotmcnasty> Andorin, don't you just drag and drop the file into the theme manager?
[03:57] <bruenig> mehul_yadav: run "firefox" in the terminal
[03:58] <sebsebseb> FloridaGuy: What do you think Linux is?
[03:58] <thiebaude> mehul_yadav, gksudo firefox
[03:58] <mehul_yadav> ok
[03:58] <sebsebseb> mehul_yadav: you don't,   it's a  graphical browser
[03:58] <sebsebseb> mehul_yadav: don't do what he suggested
[03:58] <Andorin> shazbotmcnasty: Maybe that would work if this came with an .xml file, but this is just a bunch of .png images and a gtkrc.txt file.
[03:58] <thiebaude> gksudo
[03:58] <sebsebseb> mehul_yadav: if you do that your basically running Flash as root,  and that's not good
[03:58] <sebsebseb> mehul_yadav: Flash I meant Firefox
[03:59] <n2diy> what could I do with a 650 mhz, 128 meg ram box?
[03:59] <shazbotmcnasty> I'd suggest just googling to hell and back
[03:59] <sebsebseb> !linux |  FloridaGuy
[03:59] <shazbotmcnasty> since no one is helping you here. And you've been asking for a while.
[03:59] <Andorin> shazbotmcnasty: I did. I got this. http://library.gnome.org/admin/system-admin-guide/stable/themes-3.html.en It doesn't really help.
[03:59] <mehul_yadav> ubuntu-restricted-extras is already the newest version.
[03:59] <mehul_yadav> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 4 not upgraded.
[03:59] <sebsebseb> thiebaude: don't tell people to gksudo firefox
[04:00] <mehul_yadav> i already did it
[04:00] <FloridaGuy> sebsebseb, when i said all linux...i met firefox isent bad just in ubuntu...all distro's i use...
[04:00] <nevyn> n2diy: it would make a reasonable dev platform or a light web browsing box.
[04:00] <mehul_yadav> gksudo firefox
[04:00] <nevyn> n2diy: without more ram I'd avoid using it as a workstation tho.
[04:00] <sebsebseb> FloridaGuy: your not the first person to say something  like that, but hey  we can expect this,   Flash is closed source
[04:01] <thiebaude> sebsebseb, but dont you open graphical programs from the terminal with gksudo not sudo
[04:01] <sebsebseb> FloridaGuy: and from a company that dosen't  really care about Linux
[04:01] <oldude67> n2diy, would be one heck of a dsl box tho
[04:01] <n2diy> nevyn: ok, I have a test box already, but having two wouldn't hurt. I thinking of maybe a headless server?
[04:01] <ubuntu_> does mark shuttleworth ever get on here?
[04:01] <sebsebseb> thiebaude: yes, but only  programs that you have a reason to  do that to,  so not Firefox
[04:01] <shazbotmcnasty> Andorin, put them in /usr/share/themes/option-name/pixmaps/*.*
[04:01] <nevyn> n2diy: yeah that works
[04:01] <thiebaude> sebsebseb, cool , i didn't know that
[04:01] <sebsebseb> ubuntu_: there was  a question  and answer session with him  for  the Ubuntu 9.04  Open Week
[04:01] <shazbotmcnasty> or somewhere in ~/,themes
[04:01] <Andorin> shazbotmcnasty: I thought that the directory had to exist in order for that to work, but there's no pixmaps directory... I suppose I'll try creating it.
[04:01] <sebsebseb> !openweek  |  ubuntu_
[04:02] <ubuntu_> I was just currious
[04:02] <ubuntu_> ahh that bot knows everything
[04:02] <JKevin> hello.everbody home?
[04:02] <shazbotmcnasty> errr, there should be
[04:02] <r3l1c> yeah it doesn't miss a trick
[04:02] <shazbotmcnasty> don't create one..
[04:02] <sebsebseb> ubuntu_: I thought there might be a factoid, but I think that factoid is a bit   outdated now
[04:02] <oldude67> !cookie | ubottu
[04:02] <mehul_yadav1> its still not working
[04:02] <sebsebseb> ubuntu_: I am looking forward to the Ubuntu 9.04 Karmic Koala Open Week though :)
[04:02] <FloridaGuy> sebsebseb, but right now its not a flash issiue sence i dont have flash installed
[04:02] <JKevin> .................
[04:03] <ubuntu_> when is that sebastien__ ?
[04:03] <ubuntu_> sebsebseb, i mean
[04:03] <sebsebseb> ubuntu_: uh 9.10  I meant.  see the website for more details, this is really off topic for this channal
[04:03] <n2diy> nevyn: ok, so I should go get a server version of Ubuntu? The server will be talking to two Xubuntu boxes, and maybe, and Windows box, so I'm going to go with a Xubuntu server version.
[04:03] <Guest69753> Alguien habla español?
[04:03] <shazbotmcnasty> !spanish
[04:03] <sebsebseb> ubuntu_: ,but it's soon after the release of 9.10
[04:04] <Kai`> Is there a built-in package to mount bin files?
[04:04] <mehul_yadav1> firefox went off when i was accessing hotmail
[04:04] <thiebaude1> changed chat clients
[04:04] <Entelin> is there any way I can get a list of all the software ive installed that does not get installed by default?  i'm redoing my box and I'd like to issue an apt-get on everything I need
[04:04] <mehul_yadav1> i think i will go for an upgrade to ubuntu 9.04
[04:04] <nevyn> n2diy: that should be fine...
[04:04] <shazbotmcnasty> Andorin, just drop it in /usr/share/themes or ~/.themes
[04:04] <draxo> is there a linux mint chan?
[04:05] <FloridaGuy> oh well i install opera 10 beta2
[04:05] <Andorin> shazbotmcnasty: I did, and it doesn't show up in the Appearances window.
[04:05] <sebsebseb> !mint |  draxo
[04:05] <garyson> i can't open my trash bin, it says it's an unkown file. can someone tell me whats wrong?
[04:05] <ubuntu_> when is the release date for 9.10?
[04:05] <shazbotmcnasty> !9.10
[04:05] <n2diy> nevyn: ok, cool. When I'm done with the install, can I remove the vidieo card, and still have the box boot?
[04:05] <sebsebseb> draxo: hmm  their offical  channel  is  on another network I think
[04:05] <draxo> ooh
[04:05] <draxo> thanks
[04:05] <sebsebseb> ubuntu_: yeah go to #ubuntu+1 to talk about 9.10
[04:06] <Andorin> shazbotmcnasty: And after creating a pixmaps folder and dropping the files in there, then switching to the theme, I see no change.
[04:06] <sebsebseb> draxo: I think there's  #mint
[04:06] <kevdog> boys
[04:07] <sebsebseb> draxo: not for  the distro it seems oh well
[04:07] <draxo> nopers
[04:07] <r3l1c> Karmic works fine on my system
[04:07] <draxo> no worries
[04:07] <draxo> i'll find it
[04:07] <sebsebseb> !karmic |  r3l1c
[04:07] <draxo> i got a problem in mint that maybe you guys might be able to help me with
[04:07] <kevdog> How do I check the current topic of this channel?
[04:07] <komputes> Does anyone here use a graphical front-end to /etc/fstab?
[04:07] <nevyn> kevdog: /topic
[04:07] <r3l1c> sebsebseb:  I know, I use it.
[04:07] <sebsebseb> draxo: this channel is really  only meant to be for Ubuntu support,   and then obviously people go off topic here and there as well
[04:07] <kevdog> nevyn: thanks
[04:07] <thiebaude1> lol
[04:08] <komputes> kevdog: what irc app are you using?
[04:08] <nevyn> komputes: I use puppet...
[04:08] <sebsebseb> thiebaude1: what at what I put?
[04:08] <shazbotmcnasty> Andorin, /uar/share/NAME_OF_THE_THEME/pixmaps?
[04:08] <DocZetta> could I get a hand here? It's got to do with uninstalling GRUB.
[04:08] <kevdog> komputes: chatzilla
[04:08] <Andorin> shazbotmcnasty: Yes.
[04:08] <n2diy> komputes: I'm afraid to use anything with fstab, especially a gui that might not be mature.
[04:09] <shazbotmcnasty> well then, go inside the original file and find where the pictures for the theme are, and replace them with the ones that you've got
[04:09] <thiebaude1> sebsebseb: how do i change it, i switced over from xchat
[04:09] <thiebaude1> ?
[04:09] <ubuntu_> they don't like me either
[04:09] <shazbotmcnasty> that's what I would do, although it'd probably esplode my puter
[04:09] <sebsebseb> thiebaude1: change what?
[04:09] <kevdog> >-)
[04:09] <thiebaude1> sebsebseb: the 1 after my name
[04:09] <ubuntu_> i mean the #ubuntu+1
[04:09] <DocZetta> I know, I'm a total newbie here, but I'd like to uninstall GRUB and re-format my ubuntu partition.
[04:09] <shazbotmcnasty>  /nick thiebaude
[04:09] <sebsebseb> thiebaude1: switched over to what?  and  /knick
[04:09] <draxo> well it's a potential ubuntu problem too i would think. whenever i activate the restricted ati/amd fglrx driver and try to load up the "screen preferences" to change my resolution to dual screen it freezes on me. and the entire system just bogs until i restart
[04:09] <thiebaude1> yes
[04:09] <kevdog> thiebaude1: did you register your name with the nickserv?
[04:10] <sebsebseb> ubuntu_: I joined soon after I told you to join, but  I didn't see you put anything
[04:10] <komputes> nevyn: puppet is not graphical is it?
[04:10] <n2diy> DocZetta: so just re-install?
[04:10] <shazbotmcnasty> oh  burned
[04:10] <thiebaude1> kevdog:it was thiebaude on xchat
[04:10] <ubuntu_> DocZetta, are you wanting to reinstall windows or just reinstall ubuntu?
[04:10] <nevyn> komputes: not exactly.
[04:10] <shazbotmcnasty> sebsebseb, is smart
[04:10] <shazbotmcnasty> :4
[04:10] <shazbotmcnasty> :3*
[04:10] <thiebaude1> 1 sec
[04:10] <kevdog> What are you using now?
[04:10] <nevyn> it's more like a sysadmin programming framework...
[04:10] <DocZetta> I'm looking to remove ubuntu and install debian -- I'm having network issues with it that I can't kick.
[04:10] <sebsebseb> shazbotmcnasty: why do you think that?
[04:11] <kevdog> I need an alternative to unison
[04:11] <nevyn> komputes: why do you want a frontend to /etc/fstab
[04:11] <n2diy> kevdog: grsync.
[04:11] <draxo> !minthelp
[04:11] <shazbotmcnasty> the channel join thing, was just funny...
[04:11] <draxo> !mintsupport
[04:11] <komputes> nevyn: for a new user who I can't trust to run blkid and the update fstab himself
[04:11] <kevdog> n2diy:  How does it work?  rsync or something else?
[04:11] <DocZetta> but I wasn't sure how ubuntu would handle it, so I installed easyBCD and ran it, and reinstalled the vista bootloader.
[04:11] <DocZetta> so now I'm not even sure if it's safe to reboot.
[04:12] <komputes> nevyn: basically just to select a drive and have it mount at startup
[04:12] <ubuntu_> join what?
[04:12] <forces> !lts
[04:12] <n2diy> kevdog: yes, gui front end for rsync, I've been using it for two weeks now to mirror /home/me to my test box down stairs.
[04:12] <komputes> nevyn: something which i feel should be included in ubuntu (like right click on drive, proprties, then select that you wanted mouted at startup)
[04:12] <nevyn> komputes: so a user needs to add internal harddisks to his system..?
[04:12] <sebsebseb> shazbotmcnasty: sometimes I may join the channal if not already in it,  when I refer someone there,  to  see if others are helping with the issue,  and  possibily to assist with it myself
[04:13] <DocZetta> if anyone's wondering, I do not have a backup or bootable Vista 64 disk.
[04:13] <nevyn> komputes: how are the drives we're talking about connected?
[04:13] <DocZetta> just a hidden partition.
[04:13] <nevyn> DocZetta: those are evil!.
[04:13] <shazbotmcnasty> I still never got any damn help with localhost. Does anyone know how to unblock localhost, I'm trying to get bitlbee to work correctly, but localhost denies my connection.
[04:13] <komputes> nevyn: yep just to select a partition to mount at starup - internal drive (sata or ide)
[04:13] <kevdog> n2diy: Although I love the concept of rsync -- its really buggy for me -- seems to drop with large transfers -- meaning files that are really large.  Does this happen to anyone else?
[04:13] <DocZetta> nevyn: tell me about it. it's partly why I'm afraid to shut this off and reboot.
[04:13] <shazbotmcnasty> sebsebseb, it was kinda a joke, I was mocking ubuntu_
[04:13] <DocZetta> I'm in Vista 64 now.
[04:13] <komputes> nevyn: any way to do that other than editing fstab?
[04:13] <sebsebseb> shazbotmcnasty: oh  right, didn't pick up on that
[04:13] <ubuntu_> why am i being mocked now?
[04:14] <shazbotmcnasty> :)
[04:14] <thiebaude1> how do i change my nick?
[04:15] <n2diy> kevdog: I recall reading something like that, you might google it, I think there is a cli switch to limit transfer size, so you can span over a couple CDs, but I'm not sure of that?
[04:15] <DocZetta> but does anyone have any ideas or suggestions? I don't want to be stuck in Vista, and this laptop is less than two months old.
[04:15] <gabisar> just type /nick an your nickhere
[04:15] <komputes> thiebaude1: just type in: /nick newname_here
[04:15] <komputes> lol
[04:15] <nickhere> wow
[04:15] <nickhere> that worked
[04:15] <nickhere> cool
[04:15] <gabisar> "ubuntu_ agora chama-se nickhere" lol
[04:15] <gabisar> yes he work
[04:16] <nickhere> what?
[04:16] <shazbotmcnasty> there you go
[04:16] <thiebaude> changed it
[04:16] <shazbotmcnasty> :D
[04:16] <nickhere> am i going to hell for using a phone with windows mobile on it?
[04:16] <shazbotmcnasty> yes
[04:16] <bazhang> !ot | nickhere
[04:17] <nickhere> and why was i being mocked earlier, what did i ever do to get mocked?
[04:17] <komputes> nevyn: i found external projects like pysdm and disk-manager which are frontends to fstab, but I was wondering if there was a way of doing it without installing extra packages
[04:17] <shazbotmcnasty> nothing. I was just making fun.
[04:17] <shazbotmcnasty> Forget it ever happened.
[04:17] <nickhere> nice...
[04:17] <sebsebseb> shazbotmcnasty: he didn't get to see that, since he got kicked
[04:17] <bazhang> nickhere, stay on topic
[04:17] <shazbotmcnasty> I noticed lol
[04:17] <dsdeiz> hello, what's the difference bet the under dev google chrome and chromium?
[04:17] <nickhere> what didn't i see?
[04:17] <nevyn> komputes: I don't know..
[04:17] <pehden> simple issue, i want filezilla ftp server i have the win base source any sulutions to compiling this for 8.04
[04:18] <komputes> ok
[04:18] <nevyn> dsdeiz: chromium is a game
[04:18] <nickhere> pehden, you are talking off topic since filezilla does not directly relate to Ubuntu...
[04:18] <dsdeiz> chromium-browser
[04:18] <nickhere> and neither does chrome or chromium..
[04:18] <pehden> i have ubuntu 8.10
[04:19] <bazhang> nickhere, it is in the repos
[04:19] <bazhang> nickhere, last warning
[04:19] <pehden> nickhere i am trying to compile it for ubuntu
[04:19] <nickhere> so is ubuntu one
[04:19] <kevdog> anyone used rdiff-backup?
[04:19] <n2diy> if I setup a headless server, does the video card have to stay in the box?
[04:20] <MK13> n2diy, no
[04:20] <pehden> bazhang im refering to the filezilla server
[04:20] <dsdeiz> i guess you're right nickhere
[04:20] <bazhang> pehden, why compile, filezilla is in hardy repos
[04:20] <ding_> kevdog, I use it quite a bit in automated fashion.
[04:20] <pehden> thats the client not the server
[04:20] <n2diy> MK13: cool, thanks.
[04:21] <kevdog> ding_:does it run ontop of rsync or is it a standalone utility?
[04:21] <jeremdow> IRC noob question - but I'm using pidgin with the purple plugins pack to chat here - is that a reasonable way to do IRC - or should I be using something else?
[04:21] <DocZetta> anyone have an answer?
[04:21] <pehden> bazhang thats the client not the server
[04:21] <bazhang> pehden, ah I see
[04:21] <nickhere> the ops are obviously unfair and unbalanced in this channel
[04:21] <dragon> how can i remove the config files associated with a package after i've removed the package itself?
[04:21] <ctmjr> n2diy: i second that what MK13  says
[04:21] <stormchas2000> nickhere  i agree with you
[04:22] <trask1> pidgin owns, if irc is all u use there or u hack around alot other clients can compete
[04:22] <ding_> kevdog, I believe it's implemented in python but that it does use rsync... a check on it's package dependencies should answer that one though...
[04:22] <bipul> hi
[04:22] <n2diy> ctmjr: ok, I better get to work then. tnx
[04:22] <dragon> !hi | bipul
[04:22] <MK13> n2diy, i would take my gpu outa my server but it is one w/ the mobo :)
[04:22] <bipul> thankyou
[04:23] <ding_> kevdog, it uses librsync1....
[04:23] <kevdog> How is rdiff any different than unison?
[04:23] <dragon> Is there a way to get rid of the config files after doing sudo apt-get remove <package>?
[04:23] <kevdog> ding_:  How is rdiff any different than unison?
[04:23] <bipul> actually i was trying find out a way to install jdk to my system and the netbeans
[04:24] <bipul> as i am new here in the field of linux please help me
[04:24] <dsdeiz> nickhere: do you by far know how to change the commands being run by dmenu?
[04:24] <donnybrasco> hello - I've started getting an error message when I boot my computer (and it seems to be running sluggishly all of a sudden).  The error reads "Enter password for default keyring to unlock - the application 'NetworkManager Applet (/usr/bin/nm-applet) wants access to the default keyring, but it is locked" can anyone help?
[04:24] <sebsebseb> dsdeiz: nickhere got muted or something I think
[04:24] <ding_> kevdog, unison is a two-way syncing utility. rdiff-backup is designed to keep a record of changes over time, so you can say, retrieve a directory or file from a certain date or number of days back in time...
[04:25] <jeremdow> trask1: thanks - I'm happy with it except being able to have multiple channels tiled - you can do it but trickier in ubuntu because you can't automatically tile the windows.
[04:25] <n2diy> MK13: the box I'm working on is a 650mhz machine, with a 128 m of ram. I'd rather be working on the 1200mhz, 256 m ram box, but, the video controller is dead on the MB, and I don't have a PCI card to drop in it.
[04:25] <ding_> I believe it also does some fancy footwork with hard links to save disk space
[04:25] <rafaelscj> i think my gprs connection is faster on ubuntu than on windows...
[04:25] <dsdeiz> sebsebseb: oh okay
[04:25] <kevdog> ding_: Ok I get the difference but does it choke with large file sizes like unison?  Sometimes with unison for me if I have a file that is like 100-200 MB in size (or bigger) the process chokes!
[04:26] <flanders> Is there anything more up to date than "wipe" and "secure-delete"? These two programs have not been updated for several YEARS. Isn't there a wipe tool that is more recent, and takes into account journaling filesystems and newer harddrive techonlogies?
[04:26] <roy_hobbs> Hey is there any way to minimize the main interface of NBR and get to the desktop behind? I see that there are icons there so I figure it is somehow useable
[04:26] <rb789> I am windows user, I am thinking of getting dell laptop with ubuntu, Is it something easy to learn?
[04:26] <pehden> any one have a sullution to my issue
[04:26] <sebsebseb> rb789: the learning curve isn't  that steep
[04:26] <flanders> roy_hobbs: You have to switch the desktop mode.
[04:26] <ding_> well, since it uses the rsync protocol, it will try to compute deltas. That's where the trouble can happen with large files... There's probably a way to turn off the delta computation aspect...
[04:26] <roy_hobbs> flanders: where/how?
[04:27] <rafaelscj> how to get the nameserver from an IP address?
[04:27] <pehden> rb789 it depends on your def of easy
[04:27] <flanders> roy_hobbs: Go to Preferences > Switch Desktop Mode
[04:27] <sebsebseb> rb789: if you have Ubuntu,  are there any Windows programs you would like to run in it?  if so which?
[04:27] <roy_hobbs> thanks
[04:27] <DocZetta> STEAM
[04:27] <shazbotmcnasty> steam runs in wine :3
[04:27] <flanders> roy_hobbs: I prefer the classic desktop mode, personally. I got tired of the Netbook desktop mode, and it uses extra RAM as well.
[04:27] <pehden> if anything you can test ubuntu with live cd
[04:27] <DocZetta> bah. I'm a noob. I haven't even had ubuntu a week yet.
[04:28] <pehden> rb789 make an iso and test it live without installing it
[04:28] <flanders> Did anyone see my question about current wipe software?
[04:28] <sebsebseb> !wine |  DocZetta   rb789
[04:28] <zherkehzi> Hey quick question. How much damage could a virus do to my ubuntu machine if it ran it's self through wine?
[04:28] <sebsebseb> zherkehzi: none at all
[04:28] <jeremdow> flanders: the netbook mode uses extra ram?
[04:29] <shazbotmcnasty> but yes, I think it's an easy thing to learn, there are many many websites, and a great community of people to help you if you don't understand something. rb789
[04:29] <sebsebseb> zherkehzi: Windows  viruses only infect Windows
[04:29] <zherkehzi> kewlbeans thanks!
[04:29] <sebsebseb> zherkehzi: also the virus may not work at all in Wine, or  only partially
[04:29] <pehden> rb789 sorry, you can burn ubuntu to disk or order it for free and test it out
[04:29] <sebsebseb> !virus |  zherkehzi
[04:29] <flanders> jeremdow: Yes, I noticed it. It is a couple extra processes, in of itself.
[04:29] <DocZetta> thanks sebsebseb, but I know what WINE is. :-P
[04:29] <zherkehzi> as well as the rest of .exe programs rofl
[04:30] <zherkehzi> thanks everybody
[04:30] <sebsebseb> zherkehzi: no probs
[04:30] <DocZetta> so...is it safe to restart this machine?
[04:31] <DocZetta> I'm not sure if GRUB is gone, and Linux is still on that partition.
[04:31] <DocZetta> I've used easyBCD.
[04:31] <DocZetta> any thoughts? :-/
[04:31] <rocko> hello
[04:31] <pehden> if a virus got into your wine it would only hurt wine installed programs
[04:31] <flanders> I mean, it's not a memory hog, only about 20 MB. So if you prefer the netbook launcher desktop, then keep it. I prefer the classic desktop mode, after getting tired of the rigid netbook desktop mode. Plus, it saves a bit of RAM as well, if you don't use it.
[04:32] <flanders> I don't mean to repeat unneccesarily, but:
[04:32] <flanders> Is there anything more up to date than "wipe" and "secure-delete"? These two programs have not been updated for several YEARS. Isn't there a wipe tool that is more recent, and takes into account journaling filesystems and newer harddrive techonlogies?
[04:32] <rocko> Is their a dimming app? for notebooks?
[04:33] <jeremdow> flanders: I'm just surprised, I use the classic desktop, but i would have assumed netbook mode would have a smaller memory footprint.
[04:34] <pehden> ubuntu 9.04 has that ability preinstalled
[04:34] <ExMachina> i found a cool hax, just type /quit whoever, and it'll quit them from irc
[04:34] <bruenig> jeremdow: nothing ubuntu has a small memory footprint
[04:34] <flanders> jeremdow:  It doesn't. It is an additional application running in the background.
[04:34] <lotus> ExMachina, why?  Why would you goof noobs?
[04:35] <stovice1> ExMachina: bored much?
[04:35] <ExMachina> in other news, how those linux ATI drivers coming along?
[04:35] <rocko> Looking for a dimming app (easy peasy...on vaio)
[04:35] <ExMachina> I'm debating between a GTX 260 and a 4850, with the 4850 being about $70 cheaper
[04:35] <flanders> rocko: It's built in to Ubuntu.
[04:36] <nicros_> anyone get the Intel GMA 500 working in Ubuntu Jaunty yet?
[04:36] <nicros_> Dell mini 10
[04:36] <psywiped> get the gtx
[04:36] <psywiped> better drivers
[04:36] <nicros_> gtx?
[04:36] <DocZetta> I'm on the GMA 4500, nicros_ -- works fine. don't see why 500 wouldn't, though it's old as dirt.
[04:36] <nicros_> it's new
[04:37] <nicros_> very new
[04:37] <pehden> um like , filezilla ftp server how to install from source please
[04:37] <richardcavell> Is it possible to connect to irc using empathy?
[04:37] <rocko> flanders says dimming is built in....so, how can I manually manipulate?
[04:37] <nicros_> its the HD Video card for the dell mini 10
[04:38] <lotus> richardcavell, I've heard it supports all the pidgin protocols, but I have no experience.
[04:38] <stanley_> hey guys I can't play DVD's even after installing the appropriate packages...is there somethign else I am supposed to do?
[04:39] <lotus> stanley_, I suggest looking into VLC
[04:39] <shazbotmcnasty> I agree.
[04:39] <richardcavell> lotus: well which protocol is it?
[04:39] <shazbotmcnasty> vlc is king
[04:40] <kevdog> anyone have an acer one aspire netbook?
[04:40] <tsrk_> is /root being accessible by root only a new thing in 9.04?
[04:40] <lotus> richardcavell, like I said I have no experience using empathy.  I just know pidign supports IRC.  The protocol is "IRC" iirc hahaha
[04:40] <richardcavell> lotus: there's no IRC
[04:40] <tsrk_> lotus, what's iirc stand for?
[04:40] <richardcavell> lotus: if i recall correctly
[04:40] <tsrk_> lotus, and lotus notes sucks
[04:41] <tsrk_> ah
[04:41] <pehden> um like , filezilla ftp server how to install from source please repeat 1
[04:41] <pe2> hi, I've changed with sudo -s to root in the terminal. how I can swith back to my normal user?
[04:41] <tsrk_> thank you richardcavell
[04:41] <stanley_> lotus I have vlc that doesn't play them either
[04:41] <tsrk_> pe2, ctrl-d
[04:41] <kevdog> pe2: exit
[04:41] <richardcavell> pehden: if you want to know about installing from source I suggest connecting to #slackware
[04:41] <richardcavell> pehden: they are used to that sort of thing
[04:41] <Entelin> ive got a sblive (emu10k) soundcard, its known good. however interestingly, when recording it seems to lock up, ive got two of the same exact card, and two different computers both running ubuntu, same results in any combination.  when recording in audacity for example it will briefly record, and then cease recording
[04:41] <pe2> kevdog: thanks
[04:41] <Entelin> subsequent recording attempts will cease working completely
[04:41] <lotus> stanley_, I dunno.  I know there's media repositories and stuff, you're sure you downloaded the right packages?  Search google for ubuntu dvd codecs
[04:41] <kevdog> pehden:  Compiling from source is easy
[04:42] <lotus> richardcavell, I'm not sure why, empathy homepage says it supports IRC
[04:42] <kevdog> pehden: Have you ever done any installing from source before?
[04:42] <richardcavell> lotus: I know but I can't see which protocol
[04:42] <stanley_> lotus...ok then, I downloaded and installed everything i was told to on the documentation
[04:42] <richardcavell> lotus: anyway I'm happy with xchat
[04:43] <GodfatherofEire> Say, is there any way to get a sort of kernel compatibility layer, to cause different hardware to be recognized (with lesser capabilities than what is actually present), by a host operating system?
[04:43] <kevdog> Why is creating a bz2 tar archive so slow??  Rhetorical question
[04:43] <lotus> richardcavell, I use xchat ftw :)  pidgin has too many pop-up windows (nameserv, all the greet bots, etc)
[04:43] <richardcavell> kevdog: it just is
[04:43] <pehden> kevdog the source is set for windows, from what i have read in the code
[04:43] <lotus> stanley_, got me, someone else might know more sorry
[04:44] <stanley_> lotus: thanks anyway man
[04:44] <richardcavell> kevdog: I tried backing up my internal hard disk to a bz2 file and could have fallen asleep waiting for it.  It's not much smaller than gzip
[04:44] <richardcavell> kevdog: that is to say, the resulting image is not much smaller with bz2 than with gz
[04:45] <pehden> kevdog thats why im here i new to this
[04:45] <ojai> does anyone know how to disable ipv6 in jaunty?
[04:45] <kevdog> I just aborted bz2 creation and am going with gz -- Hopefully its faster
[04:45] <kevdog> pehden:  Why do you want filezilla anyway -- linux has better utilities
[04:46] <ojai> used to be easy by commenting out the line in /etc/modprobe.conf/aliases back in the day but doesn't like that file exists anymore
[04:47] <kevdog> Yea this gz archive creation is faster!!!
[04:47] <kevdog> Thanks for tip!!!
[04:48] <nickhere> pehden, why do you want to disable ipv6?
[04:48] <pehden> kevdog like its set up
[04:48] <zherkehzi> Has anyone else had problem's with compiz in 8.04? It's been crashing after I change something, and then reboot
[04:49] <kevdog> pehden:  Ok but better start liking another programs setup as well
[04:49] <voss> zherki, I just turned compee off ;-)
[04:50] <pehden> kevdog I tried vsftp i leked its simpleness but it wouldnt let me upload to it or have users the way i wanted
[04:50] <zherkehzi> ok. I thought I was screwing it up somehow due to my noobish self
[04:50] <kevdog> pehden: What about ssh and winscp?
[04:50] <nicros_> how do i download the public key for the ppa repos?
[04:51] <voss> zherki, Its eye candy, not necessary for ubuntu functioning
[04:51] <ghee> hey guys, in permissions hell, though must be a simple problem.  vfat line in fstab is /dev/sda10 /media/DATA vfat utf8,user,umask=022 0 1.  works fine for sudo but permission denied user.  any ideas?
[04:51] <bazhang> https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA#Adding%20a%20PPA%27s%20keys%20to%20your%20system nicros_
[04:51] <ultraz> quiet in here.
[04:51] <ultraz> :-)
[04:51] <ultraz> hm...
[04:51] <nicros_> thanks
[04:51] <zherkehzi> echo
[04:51] <voss> Personally I just wish ubuntu did not compiz by default
[04:52] <pehden> kevdog winscp
[04:52] <zherkehzi> my computer does not want to reboot after compiz installation
[04:52] <bullgard4> When has GNOME 2.24 been released?
[04:53] <zherkehzi> not that it's old
[04:54] <meatweep> ?DCC SEND "ff???f?" 0 0 0\
[04:55] <pehden> kevdog what is that
[04:55] <Proh> What's that software again, which you use to boot ubuntu from flash drive ?
[04:55] <zherkehzi> bullgard4: I believe in sept 08. I may be wrong
[04:55] <Proh> ubuntin or something
[04:56] <bazhang> Proh, unetbootin
[04:56] <Proh> lol yeah thanks
[04:56] <bullgard4> zherkehzi: Thank you.
[04:56] <zherkehzi> bullgard4: thank google. lol
[04:56] <nickhere> proh...
[04:56] <Proh> yes?
[04:57] <nickhere> it is easier to boot into the live cd and install it using the  usb startup disk creator
[04:57] <bazhang> nickhere, he may be using windows atm
[04:57] <Proh> yeah, that's correct ^^
[04:57] <ghee> hey guys, in permissions hell, though must be a simple problem.  vfat line in fstab is /dev/sda10 /media/DATA vfat utf8,user,umask=022 0 1.  works fine for sudo but permission denied user.  any ideas?
[04:57] <bazhang> unetbootin has one for windows iirc
[04:58] <zherkehzi> bullgard4:I just checked, sept 24, 08
[04:58] <gasull> Hi all.  Is there any way to run a Mac OS Widget on Linux?  Thanks.
[04:58] <nickhere> bazhang, can't he still boot into the live cd without harming windows?
[04:58] <zherkehzi> to be exact
[04:58] <bazhang> gasull, in kde4?
[04:58] <bullgard4> zherkehzi: Very good, thank you again.
[04:58] <gasull> bazhang: gnome
[04:58] <bazhang> nickhere, sure, but he wants unetbootin
[04:58] <bazhang> gasull, doubtful with gnome, kde4 can iirc
[04:59] <nickhere> I was just trying to offer an easier solution :-)
[05:01] <dport> Can anyone offer some FTP server help?
[05:02] <cjae_> ok I had to remove my normal user login user due to mistakes during lvm creation, but I have the user recreated but need to know how to add them to sudo and any other group I need
[05:02] <dport> i'm using filezilla and want to create an FTP server to share music with a couple of friends
[05:03] <cjae_> I used adduser from cli
[05:03] <voss> dport, all creative commons music im sure
[05:03] <misfit_00_M> does anyone know how to change the screen size on a netbook?  I have a netbook with 8.9" screen but appears for some reason UNR is using 10" setting and can't see any of the borders.  Thoughts?
[05:04] <dport> its all music that i've personally made
[05:06] <ultraz> I used to have Thinkpad T42, and was running Ubuntu for a long time on it, and i remember fan working non stop, after that i switched to Dell Latitude runing Ubuntu where fan worked fine. Recently i got Thinkpad T60 and i am having the same issue, once the fan start it never stops. Is this issue known or?
[05:07] <voss> ultraz, may be an issue with the t-60 fan assembly
[05:07] <BellinXFelon> can someone help me with my external usb hd i cannot write to it
[05:07] <nickhere> BellinXFelon, is it write protected?
[05:08] <BellinXFelon> nickhere : no i dont think so
[05:08] <BellinXFelon> nickhere : i just had it working and now it went back to not letting me write to it
[05:08] <nickhere> hmm
[05:08] <nickhere> ever plug it into a windows machine?
[05:10] <ultraz> voss: and T42?
[05:11] <ultraz> voss: It looks to me like Ubuntu has issue with Thinkpads.
[05:11] <voss> ultraz, perhaps
[05:12] <cjae_> !adduser
[05:12] <iwobbles> mm I had a few issues with my think pad ultraz keyboard problems & usb
[05:13] <iwobbles> but after a few updates it seemed to have fixed most issues
[05:13] <voss> ultraz, fan assemblies can be a problem with older thinkpads
[05:13] <mechtech> Hey...I think I need a little help...I just opened a folder full of e-books via the gui, and the progress wheel just keeps spinning, and not all the files are appearing...is this a problem, or should i just be more patient?
[05:15] <phyrrus> hello
[05:16] <voss> ultraz, generally thinkpads run linux very well
[05:16] <voss> I hate these new prius commercials ;-)
[05:16] <mechtech> IBM makes good hardware
[05:16] <phyrrus> same
[05:16] <Annath> I hate commercials in general
[05:16] <phyrrus> lol
[05:16] <zherkehzi> mechtech:What i would do is a force-quit and try again
[05:17] <CaptWho> how do i do a su in 9.04?
[05:17] <mechtech> zherkehzi: force quit what?
[05:17] <mechtech> and how?
[05:17] <mechtech> please
[05:17] <CaptWho> i set up a user password when i installed the system, but it didn't have me use a root password
[05:17] <voss> What is Linux Mint considered in relation to Ubuntu , a variant, a spinoff or a derivative product?
[05:17] <hoonteke> CaptWho: you use sudo
[05:17] <zherkehzi> Well try to click the exit button, then it should ask you to Wait, or Force quit
[05:18] <hoonteke> CaptWho: $ sudo su -
[05:18] <hoonteke> then type your user password
[05:18] <nickhere> linux mint is like the long lost cousin...
[05:18] <zherkehzi> Then click force quit. But I mean, whatever you think
[05:18] <mechtech> CaptWho: to perform commands as root, use sudo...never really want to login as root
[05:18] <voss> Mint 7 is 9.04 with a bunch of tweaks
[05:19] <aurilliance> afternoon all. q: I have a music cd that works in my cd player, but doesn't mount when put into my laptop's dvd drive... I'm guessing it's because the cd is protected / scratched a bit? Could someone clear this up for me? thnx
[05:19] <KE7TMA> i am a relative newb to ubuntu
[05:19] <KE7TMA> it's been years since i learned linux
[05:19] <mechtech> how to force quit?
[05:19] <KE7TMA> i wanted a fakeraid so i used server, not i am in the process of bootstrapping a desktop from it
[05:19] <coleys> ste
[05:19] <CaptWho> thanks much hoonteke
[05:19] <KE7TMA> how do i use apt to install the ubuntu DESKTOP package?
[05:19] <hoonteke> CaptWho: no worries, but listen to mechtech as well.
[05:20] <zherkehzi> mechtech: You can also add the force quit button to your panel. Right click on panel, then click add to panel,
[05:20] <CaptWho> why cam
[05:20] <CaptWho> oops
[05:20] <zherkehzi> then search for force quit. then click Add.
[05:20] <KE7TMA> you can also kill a task from the system monitor
[05:20] <CaptWho> why shouldn't i log in as root?
[05:20] <KE7TMA> because
[05:20] <KE7TMA> it's easier to screw up the system
[05:20] <danbhfive> KE7TMA: do you want the package or the full desktop that is installed by the installer?
[05:20] <KE7TMA> cat walks across the keyboard
[05:20] <KE7TMA> dan
[05:21] <KE7TMA> i installed the ubuntu-desktop metapackage
[05:21] <KE7TMA> but i still have the server kernel
[05:21] <KE7TMA> my goal is a mythbuntu setup
[05:21] <mechtech> zherkehzi: thanks...is there a keystroke for that?
[05:21] <KE7TMA> but, i want to have gnome as well,
[05:22] <KE7TMA> the damned thing is that i managed it once before
[05:22] <KE7TMA> but bad ram caused that installation to fail mysteriously
[05:22] <kbp> why is there no virus on *nix system?
[05:22] <zherkehzi> mechtech: I'm sorry, I dont understand. What do you mean by keystroke?
[05:22] <KE7TMA> kbp
[05:22] <danbhfive> KE7TMA: yeah, you gotta install linux-generic
[05:22] <KE7TMA> ahhhhhhhhh
[05:22] <KE7TMA> nice
[05:22] <aurilliance> kbp: because it's soo good
[05:23] <mechtech> zherkehzi: like <ctrl><alt>delete in win, or <Command><option>esc in Mac OS
[05:23] <trollaxor> hi. i was wondering if anyone ever noticed any versions of ubuntu throwing up random terminal sessions with text inside.
[05:23] <mazda01> having troubles with scp. i am trying to copy some files from a ssh server. i am typing in this.    ssh dan@server:/User/folder/folder   but scp is merely returning options to me like I am not using the right syntax. can someone help me please?
[05:23] <KE7TMA> yeeeeeeehaw
[05:23] <KE7TMA> that seems to be the trick
[05:23] <KE7TMA> thanks a million
[05:23] <kbp> aurilliance: it's not the main reason...
[05:23] <KE7TMA> i got an hdhomerun
[05:23] <mechtech> trollaxor: ouch
[05:23] <KE7TMA> i used to have a fuckin windows media center pc
[05:23] <KE7TMA> my wife won at the state fair
[05:23] <phyrrus> lol
[05:24] <danbhfive> !virus > kbp
[05:24] <phyrrus> fail
[05:24] <KE7TMA> i let the smoke out with bad ram
[05:24] <toyimp> gr, well I did something to mess up my x-server. Now working from a clean install of ubuntu.. again -.-
[05:24] <KE7TMA> xserver?
[05:24] <mechtech> !language | KE7TMA
[05:24] <zherkehzi> mechtech: I don't think so, but If you add it to your panel, it's just as easy. you click on it, then click on the program you want to force quit. Then boom! programs gone
[05:24] <KE7TMA> xserve?
[05:24] <KE7TMA> ah  sorry
[05:24] <mazda01> i am using this site for examples. and it appears that it should be working.  http://help.ischool.washington.edu/faqs/30_32_en.html
[05:24] <zherkehzi> mechtech:let me check the keyboard shortcuts. one secound
[05:24] <mechtech> zherkehzi: I did that and it worked great, and this time, my file browser didn't freeze...thanks a lot
[05:25] <KE7TMA> well you guys have been most helpful
[05:25] <kbp> ubottu doesnt explain why there is no virus on Linux
[05:25] <KE7TMA> to tell the truth i'm more of a mac, freebsd, solaris kind of guy
[05:25] <mechtech> xserve is apple's bsd based rackmount server product
[05:25] <KE7TMA> but none of those will drive my new atom's onboard video accelerator
[05:25] <KE7TMA> yeah
[05:25] <KE7TMA> running linux on a mac
[05:25] <james_> join #webos-internals
[05:25] <KE7TMA> is kind of like a fish riding a bicycle
[05:26] <mechtech> kbp: I got a virus infected file yesterday from a torrent I downloaded
[05:26] <zherkehzi> mechtech: no problem. but sorry there's no keystrokes for force quit. I checked. For regular quit there is ALT+4.
[05:26] <KE7TMA> if you want your xserve to be like linux there are a hundred ways to do it
[05:26] <voss> mech, what os?
[05:26] <KE7TMA> sheeeewt
[05:26] <mechtech> zherkehzi: thanks a lot
[05:26] <KE7TMA> or run linux inside virtualbox
[05:26] <Xodiac13> i am trying to get wireless on my laptop it works in 9.04 but my video card isnt supported in that version i am using 8.10 with antheros chipset can someone help me get my wireless card working
[05:26] <KE7TMA> give it say half the processors
[05:26] <richardcavell> !intel-microcode
[05:27] <KE7TMA> i have a mac pro here
[05:27] <mechtech> KE7TMA: actually Apple's OSes are ALL Free BSD based now, and frankly it's the best software on this planet
[05:27] <KE7TMA> i know
[05:27] <KE7TMA> actually
[05:27] <voss> xodiac, what type of computer is it?
[05:27] <KE7TMA> apple's "os x" used to be called nextstep in the 80s
[05:27] <Xodiac13> mechtech: sorry to bother you i need help with my wireless card i have the atheros chipset
[05:27] <mechtech> KE7TMA: oops...thought you were dogging Mac OS
[05:27] <KE7TMA> and it is in fact based off BSD unix
[05:27] <KE7TMA> with a mach microkernel
[05:27] <KE7TMA> the userland and a lot of the system is freebsd
[05:28] <KE7TMA> but with a different driver model and a totally different kernel
[05:28] <KE7TMA> i know
[05:28] <mechtech> Xodiac13: no bother...what symptoms?
[05:28] <KE7TMA> it feels like freebsd though
[05:28] <Xodiac13> mechtech: i would like to get wireless going on this laptop so i dont have to have it wired
[05:28] <jipsy> how can i restart my settings??
[05:28] <richardcavell> Does anyone know anything about the intel-microcode package?  Whether it should be installed and if so, how to use it?
[05:28] <omegamormegil> kbp:  Viruses exploit security vulnerabilities in the software they attack.  Linux has less vulnerabilities, and when they are found they are patched.  Also, people writing viruses want to go after Windows because it's so much more commonly used.  They get more bang for their buck.
[05:28] <KE7TMA> i am saying
[05:28] <KE7TMA> why run linux on an xserve?
[05:28] <KE7TMA> just run os x
[05:28] <KE7TMA> and virtualbox
[05:28] <trollaxor> why run linux on a mac?
[05:28] <voss> mechtech, I think OS/X is good but overrated
[05:28] <Xodiac13> mechtech: it i looked in the hardware and it installed the atheros wlan so i pretty sure wireless should work
[05:29] <KE7TMA> yes
[05:29] <trollaxor> http://www.trollaxor.com/2003/04/why-run-linux-on-mac.html
[05:29] <mechtech> Xodiac13: is it giving you errors, or you need to know where to start?
[05:29] <jipsy> mawning penguins....how can i restart all my settings??
[05:29] <richardcavell> trollaxor: I'm using Linux on a Mac right now
[05:29] <KE7TMA> i submit that running linux on a mac is pointless
[05:29] <KE7TMA> why?
[05:29] <KE7TMA> i am not trying to flame here
[05:29] <Xodiac13> mechtech: i need to know where to start what programs i can use to easily connect to my router
[05:29] <KE7TMA> but hardware support is better anyway
[05:29] <roy_hobbs> Hey I got an EEEBuntu NBR problem. I accidentally rotated the screen at one point, now every time i boot up it rotates, I can't undo the setting
[05:29] <KE7TMA> and os x is not too obtrusive
[05:30] <mechtech> voss: a little off topic, but if you find a bug, I'd like to know...we have four macs around here, and I used to work for Apple
[05:30] <mechtech> Xodiac13: iwconfig
[05:30] <trollaxor> mechtech what was your job at apple
[05:30] <Xodiac13> mechtech:k
[05:30] <cjae_> !info newuser
[05:30] <richardcavell> !info intel-microcode
[05:30] <KE7TMA> i wish gnustep had ubuntu backing
[05:30] <mechtech> trollaxor: tech support for OS X, OS 9.2 and iMac
[05:30] <kbp> omegamormegil: thank you :) I just worry about the programs I installed through apt-get (repositories). Did anyone check/try it before make it available for people to use?
[05:30] <omegamormegil> jipsy:  for what application?  The settings for a given application are usually stored in a hidden folder or file (which starts with a period) in your home folder.
[05:30] <trollaxor> ouch
[05:30] <KE7TMA> ubuntustep
[05:30] <KE7TMA> that would be way cool
[05:31] <Xodiac13> mechtech: it says no wireless extenstions
[05:31] <KE7TMA> beats the pants off gnome anyway
[05:31] <albech> what can cause many domains not to load properly when not using the ISPs DNS servers?
[05:31] <Xodiac13> mechtech: is that good or bad
[05:31] <albech> not load properly = not load at all ;)
[05:31] <Soulguard> hey ifi try to ./configure clutter on 9.04 it starts complaining about missing GLX Headers (using it in an vmware envirement but hou can ik enable these missing headers
[05:31] <cjae_> what groups do I need to belong to when creating a new user, that make it the same as the user created during installation?
[05:31] <KE7TMA> can you do accelerated x in vmware?
[05:31] <mechtech> Xodiac13: lemme research...doesn't sound good...have you re-loaded or re-booted since you installed the drivers for your wireles card?
[05:32] <KE7TMA> i would assume you need to install their "guest extensions" or whatever they call them
[05:32] <Xodiac13> mechtech: it says in the hardware that its activated and i made sure the switch is on when i done have the ethernet port in it has 2 computers together on top right
[05:32] <Soulguard> i dont know gues not
[05:32] <omegamormegil> kbp:  The files coming through apt-get come from one place, which is much more secure than having to download every program from a different website.  You can generally consider them to be very safe.  If you are really paranoid, you can also opt to stick with the main Ubuntu server, as opposed to a mirror.
[05:32] <zenlunatic> cjae_: sudo it i believe adduser needs root
[05:32] <zherkehzi> !cluster managment
[05:32] <trollaxor> !gay
[05:32] <psywiped> !rtfm
[05:32] <Xodiac13> mechtech: it was already activated when i did a clean install
[05:33] <toyimp> Are people still having problems with the 2.6.28-14 kernel?
[05:33] <bazhang> trollaxor, stop that psywiped you too
[05:33] <mechtech> Xodiac13: ok...hang on
[05:33] <Xodiac13> mechtech: okay
[05:33] <psywiped> wtf is jfgi?
[05:33] <trollaxor> stop what
[05:33] <bazhang> trollaxor, psywiped /msg ubottu
[05:33] <trollaxor> can i /queery it instead
[05:34] <Gos> jfgi ==just fing google it
[05:34] <psywiped> ah ok
[05:34] <toyimp> lol
[05:34] <trollaxor> ;p;
[05:34] <Xodiac13> lol
[05:34] <Gos> i had to google that to find out
[05:34] <psywiped> nice
[05:35] <nickhere> ubottu, is far from intelligent...
[05:36] <zherkehzi> !intelligent
[05:36] <psywiped> slow night
[05:36] <bazhang> take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[05:36] <trollaxor> anyone know anything about ubuntu 9.04 changing wallpaper all by itself?
[05:38] <artillerytx> i keep getting this e-mailed to me any one know why ? - http://paste.ubuntu.com/240807/
[05:38] <BellinXFelon> can someone help me with my usb external hd
[05:38] <omegamormegil> trollaxor:  What did it change to?
[05:39] <trollaxor>  pink ♂ symbols superimposed over images of innocent-looking, shirtless teenage boys engaged in certain acts.
[05:39] <mechtech> what's wrong with floodbot?
[05:39] <nickhere> whats with the floodbot?
[05:40] <mechtech> trollaxor: how did you make the "male" symbol?
[05:40] <bazhang> trollaxor, that is not appropriate here
[05:40] <Xodiac13> mechtech: is there a way to get wlan on my laptop
[05:40] <nickhere> plug your network cable in Xodiac13
[05:40] <trollaxor> bazhang: are you some kind of nanny? im describing my problem as accurtately as i can without being explicit. this is really starting to freak me out and i need help.
[05:41] <Xodiac13> mechtech: im on the laptop
[05:41] <Xodiac13> mechtech: with the ethernet cable
[05:41] <Xodiac13> nickhere: i did
[05:42] <nickhere> and that didn't work?
[05:42] <Xodiac13> nickhere: im trying to get wlan on my laptop
[05:42] <mechtech> Xodiac13: yes...synaptic package manager...system>administration>synaptic>search for "wlan" choose appropriate packages and apply changes
[05:42] <nickhere> you mean wifi?
[05:42] <Xodiac13> mechtech: okay
[05:42] <mataks> can someone help me with the workspaces.. when im move to the next workspace i can still see my open application in my previous workspace.. which is workspace 2 should be empty space right.. why is that
[05:43] <Xodiac13> mechtech: which one do i choosde
[05:43] <omegamormegil> Xodiac13:  Going to System>Administration>Hardware Drivers may be an easier way of getting your wifi working.  It tries to autodetect what you need to have installed.
[05:43] <nickhere> mataks, no you should be able to see them in the little space
[05:44] <mechtech> Xodiac13: Ihonestly don't know...I use iwconfig
[05:44] <Xodiac13> mechtech: k
[05:44] <kevdog> heloo
[05:44] <zherkehzi> this irc channel does seem slower than usual.
[05:44] <nickhere> my fie worked by default
[05:44] <Xodiac13> omegamoregil: im just trying to get my wireless going
[05:44] <mataks> nickhere,  desktop1 and desktop2 have the same application open when i choose any of them
[05:44] <donnybrasco> Anyone know how to route my audio to my bluetooth headset (i903)?
[05:44] <nickhere> wifi*
[05:45] <kevdog> waaaaaaaay slooooooooowwww
[05:45] <zherkehzi> its so slow that......
[05:45] <omegamormegil> Xodiac13:  That's generally what the Hardware Drivers tool is used for.  Wifi, and also getting graphics cards working better.
[05:45]  * kevdog senses a yo mama joke coming!
[05:45] <nickhere> right click on the program in the task bar and make sure you have "only visable on this workspace" selected
[05:45] <zherkehzi> ......
[05:45] <mechtech> mataks: go to compizconfig settings manager...go to general options...desktop size...horizontal virtual size should be however many desktop environments you want, number of desktops should read 1
[05:46] <donny__brasco> Anyone know how to route my audio to my bluetooth headset (i903)?
[05:46] <mataks> mechtech,  ok i'll try
[05:46] <zherkehzi> ... it's slow
[05:46] <Xodiac13> omegamormegil: im trying to find a program that i can use to make it easier to connect that actually shows me the network connections but i dont know what that program is can you help me im looking in the synaptics package manger and i typed in wlan
[05:47] <coleys_> sdf\
[05:48] <mataks> mechtech,  it's already 1.. number of desktops.. but still same application on my panel
[05:48]  * Atreus hates coming here every few weeks, askign for help
[05:48] <mechtech> mataks: so, you have the same windows open on your second desktop as your first?
[05:49] <mataks> mechtech,  nope the windows are not open.. just this tab in the panel..  same applications in the panel
[05:49] <omegamormegil> Xodiac13:  The program you want to use is the Network Manager Applet on your panel.  If the panel applet doesn't display any wifi connections that means you need to install the drivers.  Do you see that applet?  If you are using a wired connection it probably looks like a black computer monitor.
[05:49] <jordan> ?
[05:49] <Atreus> My computer simply won't boot my 9.04 CD.  it'll boot the 8.something CD fine, but freezes while installing, and downrigth passes over the CD when it's 9.04.  any suggestins?
[05:49] <kevdog> Atreus:  Try alternate cd
[05:50] <bazhang> Atreus, sounds like a bad burn
[05:50] <ipsk> how to view .dwg files autocad files in ubuntu
[05:50] <Atreus> kevdog, bazhang: i've tried two burns
[05:50] <Xodiac13> omegamormegil: yes i see it but when i take out the ethernet cable it displays two computers with and orange x on the right bottom side
[05:50] <bazhang> Atreus, md5 the iso, burn very slowly, do the disk integrity check
[05:50] <mataks> mechtech,  for example i open xchat,firefox and audacious in desktop1 ... when i move to desktop2.. those programs are on my panel.. ..
[05:50] <mechtech> mataks: Ooooh!  I think it's supposed to be that way...for instance, I had a bunch of files sitting in my desktop folder...their icons were on all of my desktops...see what I mean?
[05:50] <zherkehzi> You know, the more viruses windows get's the less people want to use it. Upside for ubuntu
[05:50] <bazhang> Atreus, if the iso is corrupt that wont matter
[05:50] <Atreus> bazhang: also downloaded it twice, separately
[05:50] <mataks> mechtech, it's not the icon.. it's the tabs
[05:51] <Atreus> and burned ont he slowest speed
[05:51] <Atreus> 8x
[05:51] <bazhang> Atreus, and md5'd it?
[05:51] <ipsk> how to view .dwg files autocad files in ubuntu
[05:51] <omegamormegil> Xodiac13:  Yes, that's what I'd expect.  If you click it, does it give you a "Wireless Network" section?
[05:51] <mechtech> mataks: oh...just a sec...yeah, actually...same here
[05:51] <Atreus> don't think so, unless PowerDVD does it automatically
[05:51] <kevdog> atreus - check the signature or md5  -- or just try the alternate cd
[05:51] <Temlar_Xion> join #sql
[05:51] <ipsk> how to view .dwg files autocad files in ubuntu
[05:51] <bazhang> !md5 | Atreus check this
[05:52] <mechtech> mataks:  like, I have xchat in the upper right on both desktop panels
[05:52] <Xodiac13> omegamormegil: no it doesnt its odd is there a program i need to install or something
[05:52] <Atreus> bazhang: thankies
[05:52] <mataks> mechtech,  hehe.. i think something to do with the reflection maybe.. or not..  before it isn't like this until i play something on compiz
[05:52] <donnybrasco> trying to route my audio to my bluetooth headset using bluez - anyone know how to do it?
[05:52] <kevdog> !ubottu
[05:52] <Atreus> bazhang: immediate problem, i has no ubuntu
[05:52] <mechtech> !desktop
[05:53] <mechtech> !flavors
[05:53] <kevdog> !Enlightenment
[05:53] <mataks> mechtech,  maybe you're talking about the xchat tray icons. hehe it should be there but the tabs im worried about.
[05:53] <jipsy_> there something wrong with my laptop..1st. desktop effects cannot be enabled 2.when i minimized my windows it closes!!
[05:53] <kandjar> hi there, I rescently installed ubuntu 9.04... everything seemed ok, until I tried to run a video in firefox.. it doesn't work
[05:53] <mechtech> mataks: explain tabs please *feeling stupid*
[05:54] <kandjar> has anybody encounter this issue and/or have a fix for it?
[05:54] <zherkehzi> can the netbook edition of ubuntu be ran on a regular laptop?
[05:54] <omegamormegil> Xodiac13:  You probably need to install the drivers for your wifi.  A lot of wifi cards don't work out of the box, because there are legal restrictions on how the drivers can be distributed.  Ubuntu has the Hardware Drivers tool to try to help people get this type of hardware working.  Did you try it?
[05:54] <bazhang> kevdog, please /msg ubottu to reduce channel noise
[05:54] <kevdog> Ok
[05:54]  * Atreus curses loudly and kicks his BIOS
[05:54] <GodfatherofEire> kandjar, do you ean like, a youtube video?
[05:54] <Xodiac13> omegamormegil: where do i start
[05:54] <jipsy_> there something wrong with my laptop..1st. desktop effects cannot be enabled 2.when i minimized my windows it closes!!
[05:54] <kandjar> GodfatherofEire: yeah
[05:55] <kevdog> >-)
[05:55] <kandjar> or ign video
[05:55] <mechtech> Atreus: careful, you'll get your foot stuck in eprom
[05:55] <omegamormegil> Xodiac13:  Go to System>Administration>Hardware Drivers
[05:55] <Rum17> Hi
[05:55] <GodfatherofEire> kandjar, go into synaptic and install the flash nonfree plugin
[05:55] <kandjar> I see the big triangle with a circle around, I press it (kind of a big play button) and the screen stay black
[05:55] <Xodiac13> omegamormegil: okay
[05:56] <mataks> mechtech,  ahhmm i don't know if it's tab  or task manager.. hehe i think it's task manager that can switch between running application
[05:56] <GodfatherofEire> kandjar, open synaptic and find and install flash-plugin-nonfree, I believe it is
[05:57] <ecret> I am unable to record audio in flash.  I tried 10 and 9.  I am able to record in audacity/wavplayer.  I read that there is issues with it and you can change the index of the alsa-base to fix it but I am new at this and have no clue.  I tried trial and error and failed.    http://pastebin.ca/1514544            Can someone please take a look?
[05:57] <mataks> jipsy,  type this in terminal.. "sudo apt-get bati-kog-nawng" and reboot
[05:58] <Xodiac13> omegamormegil: its up i have hardware drivers windows up
[05:59] <bazhang> mataks, what is that
[05:59] <omegamormegil> Xodiac13:  Does the window list any drivers in the box?  (Are you running Ubuntu 9.04?)
[05:59] <GodfatherofEire> kandjar, sorry, its flashplugin-nonfree
[06:00] <Xodiac13> omegamoregil: yes it does there is one called atheros 802.11 wlan and its activated
[06:00] <OhioEric> hi everyone
[06:00] <nickhere> whats up EricOhio
[06:00] <OhioEric> nm
[06:00] <m0r0n> Ubuntu isint loading as fast as it use to, anyone know what I can do to solve this before it becomes worse
[06:01] <omegamormegil> Xodiac13:  Do you know what version of Ubuntu you are running?
[06:01] <byte_me__> m0r0n:reinstall. works for me. haha
[06:01] <nickhere> i have to fart
[06:01] <OhioEric> lol
[06:01] <byte_me__> yey
[06:01] <nickhere> whoops wrong channel
[06:01] <omegamormegil> Xodiac13:  Was it active when the window first popped up?
[06:01] <Xodiac13> i am running ubuntu 8.10 its perfect because my video card works and i have installed 9.04 it had my wireless working but im am going to use 8.10
[06:02] <Xodiac13> omegamoregil: uh no it had a x
[06:02] <Xodiac13> omegamoregil: orange x
[06:02] <Ademan> how can i list the files that belong to a package on the command line?
[06:02] <nickhere> do you know what version of ubuntu I am running?
[06:02] <mechtech> nickhere: 9.04?
[06:03] <mechtech> that's the latest
[06:03] <linuxguy2009> Ademan: Does it have to be on the CLI? Cause synaptic makes that realy easy.
[06:04] <DaZ> linuxguy2009, ...
[06:04] <linuxguy2009> DaZ: You need some help there?
[06:04] <DaZ> no, thanks
[06:05] <bazhang> nickhere, lsb_release -a in the terminal
[06:05] <kyppcgeek> Linux Mint is AWSOME!
[06:05] <omegamormegil> Xodiac13:  Alright.  Check the network-manager applet to see if it is detecting wireless networks now.  If not, you might want to try restarting the computer.  If that doesn't work, there was a bug in Ubuntu 8.10 with getting some Atheros cards working and you need to install the linux-backports-modules-intrepid-generic package to make it work.  You can search for it in the Synaptic Package Manager you had open previously.
[06:05] <linuxguy2009> hehe ok? hehe
[06:05] <Gnea> kyppcgeek: relevence?
[06:05] <bazhang> !mintsupport > kyppcgeek
[06:05] <Ademan> linuxguy2009: ah, yeah, that works, although for the future i'd definitely like to find out how to do it from the command line...
[06:05] <OhioEric> ive wanted to try linux mint before. never got around to it
[06:05] <toyimp> Some flash generic ubuntu flash player just got installed from firefox. Is there anyway that I can remove it?
[06:05] <nickhere> lsb_release -a
[06:06] <Gnea> Ademan: dpkg --contents /path/to/file.db
[06:06] <mataks> help pls my workspace1 and workspace2 have the same running applications in task manager. why is that?
[06:06] <Xodiac13> omegamormegil: okay i will just install the package
[06:06] <toyimp> I have the name of it from the about:plugins
[06:06] <Eric_J1> Hello
[06:06] <nickhere> Xodiac13, because those programs are still running
[06:06] <OhioEric> how is everyone tonigt
[06:06] <Eric_J1> Can someone help with a weird sound card issue?
[06:07] <Purpley> hey guys i have a question
[06:07] <Gnea> mataks: you have the applications set to be visible on any desktop
[06:07] <kyppcgeek> ubuntu is on my server. linux mint is on my desktop
[06:07] <mechtech> oot, click options, select KDE and continue
[06:07] <Xodiac13> nickhere: what
[06:07] <mechtech> oops
[06:07] <mataks> Gnea, where can i change the settings?
[06:07] <Purpley> Everytime i move these certain files to the trash they come back to my desktop
[06:07] <Purpley> ive also tried putting them in a folder
[06:07] <omegamormegil> Xodiac13:  Let me know if it works.
[06:07] <Gnea> kyppcgeek: please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic then
[06:07] <Purpley> and they apparently make copies
[06:07] <Purpley> and goto my desktop
[06:08] <Gnea> mataks: right-click on any of the applications
[06:08] <Purpley> and im sure there not viruses
[06:08] <Ademan> Gnea: ah thanks
[06:08] <Purpley> as im not sure how someone goes about infecting a pdf file
[06:08] <kyppcgeek> um. both run same commands. i am watching posts here and learning
[06:08] <Purpley> and ive already ran a virus scan
[06:08] <Eric_J1> can anyone give me some advice on my sound card issue?
[06:08] <nickhere> just because you are in a different virtual desktop, it doesn't mean those programs cease to exist when you are on another desktop
[06:08] <Xodiac13> omegamormegil: okay
[06:08] <mechtech> Pupley: I had an infected pdf yesterday
[06:09] <Xodiac13> omegamormegil: should i restart my computer after i get the package
[06:09] <Purpley> anyone have an idea?
[06:09] <Purpley> mechtech
[06:09] <mataks> Gnea,  it's only in workspace1.. the checkbox is only on workspace1 not  _ all workspace.. i think this is in compiz
[06:09] <kyppcgeek> Eric: ?
[06:09] <Eric_J1> Okay, my sound was fine about two days ago
[06:09] <Purpley> Well to be honest i know how you do infect a pdf file
[06:09] <mechtech> Purpley: yes
[06:09] <Purpley> its just that
[06:09] <mechtech> ?
[06:09] <Eric_J1> then I get on today
[06:09] <Gnea> mataks: does it still occur when you turn compiz off?
[06:09] <Eric_J1> and I have no sound
[06:09] <Purpley> I doubt someone would infect this type
[06:09] <Purpley> and
[06:09] <Purpley> its multiple files
[06:09] <kyppcgeek> loose cord?
[06:09] <Ademan> does anyone know of the best way to get new kernel versions in jaunty? I want to get 2.6.30 at least, (really i'm looking for a PPA)
[06:09] <Eric_J1> I go to sound preferences after trying to unmute and it gave me an error
[06:09] <Gnea> !enter | Purpley
[06:09] <kyppcgeek> no power?
[06:09] <mataks> Gnea, don't know.. how to turn off compiz?
[06:10] <Eric_J1> it showed no default devices
[06:10] <omegamormegil> Xodiac13:  I'd check network manager first.  Sometimes it just starts working without a restart.  If it isn't working yet try the restart.
[06:10] <Gnea> mataks: desktop effects
[06:10] <Eric_J1> lspci recognizes the card
[06:10] <Xodiac13> omegamormegil: okay i didnt see anything i will restart brb
[06:10] <mechtech> Purpley: seems like it's acting like a virus
[06:10] <Purpley> I know
[06:10] <kyppcgeek> Eric: Alsaconf?
[06:10] <m0r0n> Ubuntu isint loading as fast as it use to, anyone know what I can do to solve this before it becomes worse
[06:10] <Eric_J1> it was
[06:10] <Purpley> But Ive heard linux is a hard OS to infect
[06:10] <Purpley> and ive ran a virus scan
[06:10] <mataks> Gnea, is that in compiz?
[06:10] <rodimus_> can someoen pleaze tell me what the green dot in the corner of my screen is?
[06:11] <Purpley> although they might slip away
[06:11] <moymoy> Ademan: there probably isn't any PPA available.. you can try looking for deb files.. there's a great guide to compiling your own, i'll link you in a second (i used this guide myself)
[06:11] <Gnea> m0r0n: remove the packages you've installed since then that make it run slower
[06:11] <gmachine24> Purpley, it's mostly that people don't try to infect Linux
[06:11] <Purpley> Because its not easy
[06:11] <Gnea> mataks: no, click on System->Preferences->something
[06:11] <mechtech> Purpley: not hard to infect...infections are rare...most viruses are written to compromize windows, but Mac OS and even linux can still get infections just as easily
[06:11] <moymoy> Ademan: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile
[06:11] <m0r0n> Gnea: But they don't load on start, how could that make a difference?
[06:11] <Gnea> (i forget what something is at the moment)
[06:11] <gmachine24> Purpley, no, because they target MS because it's the biggest and the baddest
[06:11] <kyppcgeek> infect linux? lmao ftl
[06:11] <linuxguy2009> rodimus_:  Probably pidgin sitting there. You can change your status.
[06:12] <Eric_J1> anyone have any idea how to solve this?
[06:12] <gmachine24> Purpley, the first big viruses in the U.S. hacked Unix systems
[06:12] <Gnea> m0r0n: I don't know what programs you've installed... what version of ubuntu are you on?
[06:12] <Eric_J1> it was fine and then it just went crazy
[06:12] <rodimus_> linuxguy2009, how come they didnt come up with something that looks better?
[06:12] <rodimus_> like a real icon.
[06:12] <BellinXFelon> how come i don't have any audio output in konqueror?
[06:12] <mechtech> gmachine24: more like, if you infect windows machines, you're more likely to get business critical systems to break
[06:12] <rodimus_> instead of green dot
[06:12] <m0r0n> Gnea: Jaunty
[06:12] <Gnea> kyppcgeek: do you have anything constructive to add to the conversation?
[06:12] <linuxguy2009> rodimus_: If you dont like it, dont use it. Simple.
[06:12] <nomad77> Purpley: if you want reassurance try installing chkrootkit,and,rkhunter and see what results are
[06:12] <Ademan> thanks moymoy
[06:12] <gmachine24> mechtech: Indeed.
[06:13] <Purpley> Im aware of that, its not hard to infect ubuntu im just simply saying all of these files downloaded from different sources apparently are doing the same thing
[06:13] <Gnea> m0r0n: k, where does it seem to be loading slow?
[06:13] <Purpley> I would think it would be something else causing this
[06:13] <kyppcgeek> anything show up in the control center for sound Eric?
[06:13] <Eric_J1> kyppcgeek: the sound preferences?
[06:13] <gmachine24> ZeroDay
[06:13] <m0r0n> Gnea: Before when I logged in everything was set, now it takes 10sec or so
[06:13] <kyppcgeek> yes
[06:13] <moymoy> Ademan: no problem
[06:13] <Eric_J1> nothing - the section for Default Devices is just blank and unclickable
[06:14] <Eric_J1> before I had 3 or 4 options
[06:14] <Gnea> m0r0n: what happens if you make a new account and login with it? does it login slow or fast after the first time?
[06:14] <mechtech> Purpley: the files are probably not infected, they might be doing what an unrelated virus is telling them to do...or that your trash is puking because a virus has made it ill
[06:14] <omegamormegil> Purpley:  It's much more likely to be a bug or a screwy setting than a virus.  Try Shift+Delete.  This bypasses the recycle bin with no hope for recovery.
[06:14] <Purpley> gmachine24, they hacked unix systems because they were the only thing around that is useful
[06:14] <Eric_J1> one was realtek, one was my sound card, one was my graphics cards, and one was OSS
[06:14] <kyppcgeek> terminal -> soundconf or alsaconf
[06:14] <Purpley> thanks omegamormegil
[06:14] <mataks> Gnea,  same.. i turn off compiz but still i can see running application in all workspace
[06:14] <m0r0n> Gnea: Let me try, also how do I 'kill' a program via Terminal
[06:14] <Eric_J1> one sec
[06:14] <gmachine24> Purpley, yes, I know.
[06:14] <Purpley> and worth their time
[06:14] <Gnea> mataks: and if you logout/login?
[06:15] <Purpley> if windows machines were around they would be attacked
[06:15] <Gnea> m0r0n: kill -9 pid   (get pid:  ps axf | grep programname
[06:15] <Eric_J1> it said neither were commands
[06:15] <jipsy_> hellpp everytime i minimize my windows i lost my windows
[06:15] <kyppcgeek> how do I mount an iso as a cd in linux?
[06:15] <Purpley> i forget that command
[06:15] <bazhang> !iso > kyppcgeek
[06:15] <Purpley> lmao
[06:15] <Gnea> kyppcgeek: mkdir isocd && sudo mount -o loop file.iso isocd/
[06:15] <moymoy> jipsy_: did you delete anything from your panels?
[06:15] <gmachine24> One of the first major viruses was by the son of a top security guy at DARPA. That was kind of embarassing.
[06:16] <Purpley> fail lol
[06:16] <gmachine24> but I digress
[06:16] <Purpley> But then that makes sense because he would have more insight to what he was up against
[06:16] <Eric_J1> kyppcgeek: is there another command to try?
[06:16] <moymoy> gmachine24: does the son and father work together, at least?
[06:17] <gmachine24> moymoy: this was like ..............25 years ago
[06:17] <skreech> Can anyone help with an nvidia resolution issue ?
[06:17] <moymoy> gmachine24: did*
[06:17] <gmachine24> and no I think the kid was in college
[06:17] <Gnea> !resolution | skreech
[06:17] <linuxguy2009>  skreech: Ask your question
[06:17] <BellinXFelon> how can i view the source of a webpage if source viewing is disabled?
[06:17] <Eric_J1> anything?
[06:17] <Gnea> BellinXFelon: turn off javascript
[06:18] <BellinXFelon> Gnea : thank you
[06:18] <m0r0n> Gnea:  Can't seem to figure that comman out
[06:18] <Purpley> hey guys who basically started linux again?
[06:18] <moymoy> BellinXFelon: sources is ALWAYS available ;) otherwise, you wouldn't be able to see the page
[06:18] <gmachine24> linus torvald
[06:18] <g-dawg-ghetto-bo> wow...
[06:18] <mechtech> Linus Trovalds
[06:18] <Purpley> thanks man
[06:18] <g-dawg-ghetto-bo> where?
[06:18] <BellinXFelon> moymoy : :)
[06:18] <g-dawg-ghetto-bo> he is like a God!
[06:18] <Purpley> i agree
[06:18] <Purpley> i read a bio on him
[06:18] <g-dawg-ghetto-bo> where is he?
[06:18] <g-dawg-ghetto-bo> does he speak english?
[06:19] <gmachine24> yes
[06:19] <Purpley> Yes?
[06:19] <moymoy> of course he does
[06:19] <gmachine24> he's a scandinavian of some sort
[06:19] <mechtech> Finland...finnish
[06:19] <skreech> The nvidia driver updated itself somehow without me asking it anything and changed my xorg.conf to some setting with a refresh rate outside of the monitor's range. I found that and fixed it but now I can't get any resolution higher than 640x480. The normal dpokg-reconfigure doesn't work, nvidia-config doesn't work nvidia-settigns doesn't work editing and adding the modelines by hand doesn't work
[06:19] <omegamormegil> btw Linux is specifically a reference to the kernel.  A bunch of the rest of what we lump together as "Linux" was written by lots of different people.
[06:19] <Gnea> m0r0n: well, you need to get the PID of the program - just:  ps axf   by itself and you'll see where it's listed
[06:19] <linuxguy2009> skreech: Do you have the nvidia driver from the repos or manually installed from nvidia.com?
[06:19] <moymoy> skreech: the command is nvidia-xconfig .. and it has to be run by root
[06:20] <skreech> repos
[06:20] <omegamormegil> Linus only works on the kernel.
[06:20] <moymoy> that's what we call GNU/Linux
[06:20] <skreech> moymoy: Right xconfig andyes root otherwise it can't make the xorg.conf
[06:20] <omegamormegil> or Ubuntu :)
[06:20] <Eric_J1> all right, I think I got something
[06:20] <linuxguy2009> skreech: have you tried disabling teh driver, rebooting and then re-enable it?
[06:20] <moymoy> GNUbuntu/Linux =]
[06:20] <skreech> linuxguy2009: Yes if you mean what I think you mean
[06:21] <Eric_J1> I ran lshw -C sound, and it showed me that both the Realtek and the Creative Labs cards are "unclaimed"
[06:21] <jahocolips> I'm getting Grub error 17, i did sudo fdisk -lu and i get /dev/sdb1 and /dev/sdb2 (/dev/sdb1 has Linux on it, sdb2 is Extended) I can't figure out what I should do
[06:21] <Eric_J1> any idea how to fix that>
[06:21] <mechtech> take the creative one...quick!
[06:21] <mechtech> LO
[06:21] <mechtech> l
[06:21] <Eric_J1> I think it's because of my running virtual box then deleting it when I was done
[06:21] <Purpley> oh that reminds me
[06:21] <linuxguy2009> skreech: After you disable it, then reboot what resolution is your monitor using?
[06:21] <Wolvez> does anybody knows a program to convert mp3 to m4r in ubuntu ?
[06:21] <Purpley> Hey guys is there a way to do something similar to a system restore?
[06:21] <skreech> 640x480
[06:22] <linuxguy2009> Wolvez: You mean m4a?
[06:22] <Gnea> Wolvez: you wanto to convert audio to video?
[06:22] <linuxguy2009> Wolvez: m4a<> mp4?
[06:22] <Wolvez> linuxguy2009, nopz, m4r
[06:22] <mechtech> Purpley: you could copy your kernel to a safe place
[06:22] <linuxguy2009> I mean AAC
[06:22] <omegamormegil> Wolvez:  VLC probably does it, but I haven't checked.  It will transcode just about everything.
[06:22] <Wolvez> this is a format for ringtones (apple)
[06:22] <aicra> ffmpeg
[06:22] <Wolvez> thanks, lets try :)
[06:22] <linuxguy2009> Wolvez: Sound Converter from add/remove is a great transcoder app.
[06:22] <skreech> Purpley: snapshot the filesystem
[06:23] <Purpley> ahh never mind what im thinking of is impossible
[06:23] <skreech> linuxguy2009: Actually I just rolled back the driver to 173 instead of 180
[06:23] <Purpley> When I installed linux I overwrote an encrypted bootloader
[06:23] <mechtech> adios
[06:23] <skreech> Purpley: probably not :)
[06:23] <skreech> ah no that's probably hosed then
[06:23] <Purpley> So i was wondering if i could restore everything so it was as if linux was never installed and the bootloader was still there
[06:24] <Purpley> But linux overwrote it
[06:24] <StupidPigeon> linux has a funny way of doing that
[06:24] <skreech> linuxguy2009: You meant drop to VESA?
[06:24] <skreech> all OSes have a funny way of doing thta.a it's the only way they can be used
[06:24] <omegamormegil> Purpley:  doubtful
[06:24] <linuxguy2009> skreech: I know nothing of VESA
[06:25] <skreech> linuxguy2009: What did you mean then?
[06:25] <m0r0n> Gnea:  My other account log in fast
[06:25] <linuxguy2009> skreech: Is your driver fixed?
[06:26] <omegamormegil> Purpley:  Unless you manually backed up your boot sector before installing Linux, or imaged your hard drive.
[06:26] <Gnea> m0r0n: then you've got something in your home directory that's chewing up hard drive space
[06:26] <skreech> what do you mean fixed?
[06:26] <Purpley> So im stuck with linux but to be honest after a week or two of getting used to it; its not that bad its actually alot better considering the fact although not as many programs are available for ubuntu than windows it makes up for that with its speed and reliability
[06:26] <skreech> I would guess so It's the one I was using before nvidia went nuts
[06:26] <linuxguy2009> skreech: Forget it, I cant help you.
[06:26] <skreech> But now I can't set my resolution
[06:26] <skreech> even if I set it manually then it still only gives me the option of 640x480
[06:27] <Purpley> omegamormegil, I backed up the bootloader but for some reason when i inserted it, it was a ubuntu live cd how ironic considering the fact i could never find where i placed my live cd :)
[06:27] <Eric_J1> okay last question - how do I revert my linux kernal?
[06:27] <skreech> Eric_J1: reboot and choose the old kernel
[06:28] <Eric_J1> not sure if this will work, but on the forums, it said that was where their issues lay
[06:28] <Eric_J1> brb
[06:28] <ecret> I am unable to record audio in flash.  I tried 10 and 9.  I am able to record in audacity/wavplayer.  I read that there is issues with it and you can change the index of the alsa-base to fix it but I am new at this and have no clue.  Itried trial and error and failed.    http://pastebin.ca/1514544            Can someone please take a look?
[06:29] <linuxguy2009>  ecret: Youyr trying to record audio to flash format?
[06:29] <m0r0n> If I have Transmission running on another account but I just click switch user, will it keep torrenting?
[06:29] <skreech> yes
[06:29] <sy1> hello?
[06:29] <sy1> A/S/L
[06:29] <ecret> linuxguy2009: trying to use ustream to record audio for example or use flexbuilder to make a recorder
[06:30] <skreech> !hi | sy1
[06:30] <sy1> I have a problem
[06:30] <sy1> my ubuntu does not want to slepp nor standby
[06:30] <linuxguy2009> ecret: I have no clue what ustream or flexbuilder are. Im clueless.
[06:30] <sy1> it can do sleep and standby
[06:30] <sy1> but i will not wake up
[06:31] <linuxguy2009> sy1: How are you attempting to wake it up
[06:31] <professor_> have a look through dmesg and /var/log/messages for any errors around the dates and times you tried
[06:31] <ecret> some flash sites supports recording live audio, cant get it working in ubuntu
[06:31] <sy1> i press the key board
[06:31] <linuxguy2009> sy1: Does the PC start to respond at all?
[06:31] <sy1> or mouse
[06:31] <sy1> no
[06:31] <linuxguy2009> sy1: Not sure but have you tried the power button instead?
[06:32] <sy1> just a blank screen with a flashing '_'
[06:32] <sy1> flashing underscore
[06:32] <linuxguy2009> sy1: Yeah i figured. umm
[06:32] <linuxguy2009> sy1: 9.04?
[06:32] <sy1> yes
[06:32] <linuxguy2009> sy1: All current updates?
[06:32] <sy1> yes
[06:33] <linuxguy2009> sy1: Has it ever worked on that machine before with 9.04 installed?
[06:33] <omegamormegil> sy1:  I had the same problem before.  Suspend works great for me in the next version.  I believe that in Jaunty, I can't suspend when I have an SD card in my internal card slot.
[06:33] <sy1> i thought if it was acpi
[06:33] <sy1> setting
[06:34] <sy1> not really linux guy
[06:34] <sy1> so this is bug inside jaunty ?
[06:34] <sy1> maybe it is the mainboard problem
[06:34] <linuxguy2009> sy1: Hard to say, might be incompatible hardware. 8.04 LTS has had many updates might work better if you really need those features.
[06:35] <sy1> since power acpi is related to apm
[06:35] <skreech> Does anyone know what would cause the resolution to be ignored inside of the xorg.conf ?
[06:35] <brEz> anyone know if you can ssh to ubuntu running on virtualbox from windows?
[06:35] <sy1> ok linux guy
[06:35] <sy1> thanks
[06:35] <sy1> uh
[06:35] <sy1> another problem tho
[06:35] <FloodBot1> sy1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:35] <muji> ihi
[06:35] <sy1> i have installed firefox 3.5.1
[06:35] <moymoy> brEz: it's possible
[06:36] <sy1> but the problem is that the right click does not work ?
[06:36] <professor_> skreech: if monitor resolution is not detected and / or coded in to xorg.conf?
[06:36] <brEz> why is it so damn hard than :) ?
[06:36] <moymoy> brEz: you probably have to open the ssh port on windows as well
[06:36] <linuxguy2009> sy1: Right click doesnt work for what exactly?
[06:36] <brEz> I have
[06:36] <skreech> professor_: No both occured and I still only get 640x480
[06:36] <moymoy> brEz: do you have sshd installed?
[06:36] <brEz> 22/22 is open on my router/windows/ubuntu
[06:36] <brEz> sure do :)
[06:36] <professor_> anything informative in the x log?
[06:37] <moymoy> can you ssh localhost?
[06:37] <brEz> I used to ssh to ubuntu all the time, and just found virtualbox, so i instaled it on my main pc :)
[06:37] <sy1> inside firefox 3.5
[06:37] <omegamormegil> brEz:  Does the virtual Ubuntu box have it's own IP address on your LAN?
[06:37] <brEz> omegamormegil: yes
[06:37] <sy1> so i uninstalled and installed again the 3.0.12
[06:37] <linux> hello
[06:37] <sy1> and then it works why is it like that ?
[06:37] <linuxguy2009> sy1:  What are you trying to use the right mouse button for in ff ?
[06:37] <brEz> on the virtualbox, i can ssh -l user -p 22 localhost
[06:37] <brEz> and it connects, but when I try via putty.... no dice ;o
[06:38] <xhres2> hey guys
[06:38] <skreech> professor_: can't find the monitors EDID module is the only thing I can think of
[06:38] <xhres2> just a quick question?
[06:38] <omegamormegil> Do you see in on the network from your windows machine?
[06:38] <moymoy> brEz: have you ifconfig to see what your LAN ip is?
[06:38] <sy1> for the normal open new link thing
[06:38] <brEz> yes
[06:38] <professor_> that has been a problem for me in the past but not recently
[06:38] <skreech> ask  | xhres2
[06:38] <linuxguy2009> xhres2: dont ask to ask. Just ask.
[06:38] <professor_> did you change monitors?
[06:38] <professor_> anything else changed or is this a new install?
[06:38] <skreech> professor_: Nothing changed except Ubuntu
[06:38] <xhres2> will using shred once to zero fill a hard disk ensure enough safty to send it for replacement
[06:38] <professor_> please look through xorg.conf and advise of anything unusual too
[06:39] <professor_> google your monitor brand and model + ubuntu too - see if something pops up
[06:39] <moymoy> brEz: give me your WAN .. mayhaps I can try to connect to see if there's any luck =p (jk)
[06:39] <xhres2> skreech: are u using an nvidia graphic card?
[06:39] <moymoy> brEz: don't know what to say.. can't help you
[06:39] <professor_> some monitors have poor EDID implementations
[06:39] <linuxguy2009> xhres2: unless you have illegal child porn or secret FBI files. Dont worry about it.
[06:39] <omegamormegil> brEz:  You could try running nmap on Ubuntu's IP to see if port 22 is open.
[06:39] <ShapeShifter499> HI
[06:39] <kub1> Xorg just started using 100% %CPU on my quad core Phenom II, & slowing the system to a crawl. Running KUb 904 64 bit. running the latest launchpad ppa kde 4.3? apt updated yesterday. Is this a known issue?
[06:39] <sy1> woooppsss
[06:39] <brEz> nmap shows it's listening on port 22
[06:39] <xhres2> linuxguy2009: no credit card info
[06:39] <sy1> i found the problem
[06:39] <moymoy> brEz: is networking working in your virtual machine?
[06:39] <sy1> linuxguy2009
[06:39] <Ademan> exit
[06:40] <Ademan> oops
[06:40] <sy1> it was cnap link
[06:40] <linuxguy2009> xhres2: paranoia
[06:40] <sy1> snap link
[06:40] <sy1> and extension
[06:40] <xhres2> linuxguy2009: you can say that
[06:40] <omegamormegil> brEz:  What error do you get?
[06:40] <brEz> moymoy: yep -  believe there's something you need to do to enable ssh on a guest account.. just unfamiliar as to what
[06:40] <linuxguy2009> hehe
[06:40] <brEz> "connection refused"
[06:40] <moymoy> brEz: there shouldn't be anything extra to do.. because ssh works in my virtual machine
[06:40] <sy1> ok this is ok now
[06:41] <brEz> you running windows as host, linux guest?
[06:41] <sy1> I hope to get the ubuntu to run smoothly
[06:41] <professor_> skreech: brb please message me again when you check those things out to get my attention
[06:41] <moymoy> brEz: nope, linux host, linux guest
[06:41] <xhres2> linuxguy2009: thanks for the help.
[06:41] <BellinXFelon> can someone help me with my external hd i cant write to it
[06:41] <sy1> yeah linuxguy2009 thanks
[06:41] <linuxguy2009> xhres2: Im useless ignore me.
[06:41] <professor_> BellinXFelon: what filesystem
[06:41] <sy1> ok
[06:41] <linuxguy2009> hehe
[06:42] <BellinXFelon> professor_ : ext3
[06:42] <sy1> i would like to install a logitech webcam on this ubuntu
[06:42] <brEz> moymoy: that's why :)
[06:42] <moymoy> brEz: you can do a tracert from your windows computer to your virtual's IP and see if it gets through all the way
[06:42] <professor_> please look through /var/log/messages for anything informative
[06:42] <omegamormegil> brEz:  If the port is open, and you have the right IP address, and you have ssh-server installed in Ubuntu, everything should just work.
[06:42] <Tniffoc> Is there a way to run the iPhone SDK from linux? It says that it has to run from an intel-based Mac running Leopard but will an intel-based windows or linux machine work?
[06:42] <sy1> i am using Bus 004 Device 002: ID 046d:08d7 Logitech, Inc. QuickCam Communicate STX
[06:43] <BellinXFelon> professor_ : are you talking to me
[06:43] <skreech> professor_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/240896 is my current one http://paste.ubuntu.com/240897 for my old one
[06:43] <omegamormegil> brEz:  Don't forget that usernames and passwords are case sensitive in Ubuntu.
[06:43] <moymoy> Tniffoc: they only make sdk's for mac's?
[06:43] <sy1> I need to know the exact step install this driver
[06:43] <sy1> for the webcam
[06:43] <sy1> any ideas?
[06:43] <sy1> Thanks
[06:43] <FloodBot1> sy1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:43] <linuxguy2009> sy1: is it a deb or .run or what?
[06:43] <brEz> omegamormegil: i know, that's the anonying part. I've used ssh for years and never had this problem on anything other than virtualbox
[06:43] <sy1> it is DEB
[06:43] <Tniffoc> moymoy: "To develop with iPhone SDK you must have an Intel-based Mac running Mac OS X Leopard."
[06:43] <sy1> Sorry Gnome
[06:43] <skreech> sy1: sudo dpkg -i /path/to/deb
[06:44] <linuxguy2009> sy1: Double click it and itll open gdebi installer.
[06:44] <Sp0d> if anyone can help me write a simple shell script please pm me :) thanks
[06:44] <moymoy> brEz: run `tracert` from windows, pointing to your virtualbox's IP and see if it gets all the way through.. it'll probably help you figure out where the problem is
[06:44] <sy1> ok
[06:44] <sy1> hold on
[06:44] <chenran> hi
[06:44] <linuxguy2009> Sp0d: What do you want your script to do?
[06:44] <DarkMage26> How do I convert .vob files into another format like .avi?
[06:44] <brEz> I did, the virtualbox isn't even visibile in a "net view"
[06:44] <sy1> I need to install some updates 1st
[06:44] <ShapeShifter499> I got a queston, I have compiz and the needed managers, I want to have more than one virtual desktop, when I put 4 virtual desktops in the compiz it messes up, I noticed when I went to desktop 2, the top bar went messing and I couldn't get any right clicks to work on the desktop but the bottom bar was there so I used that to go back to desktop 1 now why did that happen?
[06:45] <moymoy> Sp0d: just ask what you want
[06:45] <professor_> skreech: your current xorg.conf does not seem to have any resolutions defined?
[06:45] <linuxguy2009> DarkMage26: Pitivi is cool or there are others like handbrake that can do MP4 encodes. Lots of others on Add/remove
[06:45] <rww> Tniffoc: Unless Apple release an SDK for Windows and/or Linux, you'll need a Mac. As far as I know, there isn't any way to run XCode on Linux.
[06:45] <Sp0d> i want it to give me the option to run different scripts i wrote like "press 1 to start service A, press 2 to start service B"
[06:45] <skreech> professor_: Nope but the old one did
[06:45] <moymoy> brEz: can you browse the internet from your virtual box?
[06:45] <Sp0d> i can print the menu
[06:45] <omegamormegil> brEz:  Ah.  Check the networking settings in the VirtualBox configuration window.  It needs to be set to Host networking.
[06:45] <Sp0d> but after the selection it just closes
[06:45] <skreech> I was hoping the Autoconfig would take care of it
[06:45] <professor_> skreech: smart move keeping the old one
[06:46] <brEz> yea I can...
[06:46] <linuxguy2009> DarkMage26: The pitivi in the repos is old manually installing the newer version mentioned on there site is much better.
[06:46] <professor_> skreech: try swapping the two
[06:46] <brEz> can browse the itnernet
[06:46] <kub1> Xorg just started using 100% %CPU on one of my cores in a quad core Phenom II, & slowing the system to a crawl. Running KUb 904 64 bit. running the latest launchpad ppa kde 4.3? apt updated yesterday. Is this a known issue?
[06:46] <skreech> professor_: Just did and rebooted
[06:46] <professor_> skreech: but also still google that model and ubuntu to see if anyone else has had problems?
[06:46] <sy1> skreech
[06:46] <Eric_J1> okay, I reverted to the .13 kernel, and that didn't work for different reasons
[06:46] <kbp> does anyone know how to make Ubuntu Server become Video Streaming Server? which program?
[06:46] <sy1> What was the step again ?
[06:46] <moymoy> brEz: that is the darndest thing
[06:46] <Eric_J1> I still cannot see my sound cards on this kernel
[06:46] <professor_> skreech: smart move for using binary nvidia drivers too
[06:46] <omegamormegil> kbp:  Use VLC
[06:47] <skreech> syi Sudo dpkg -i /path/to/deb
[06:47] <professor_> skreech: so old conf file doesn't help eh?
[06:47] <ShapeShifter499> well?
[06:47] <skreech> professor_: Nope everything works except that it only has 640x480
[06:47] <brEz> omegamormegil: how would I do that? everything looks normal
[06:47] <sy1> sorry I have that
[06:47] <kbp> omegamormegil: thank you I will google it
[06:48] <skreech>  Even if I take that out of the old file and restart X I only get 640x480
[06:48] <Eric_J1> anyone?
[06:48] <professor_> skreech: what has google turned up with that model and ubuntu
[06:48] <moymoy> Sp0d: paste what you have so far on pastebin
[06:48] <professor_> skreech: you should not take out any files, just swap them around so one is always named xorg.conf, backing up the other
[06:48] <moymoy> !paste | Sp0d
[06:48] <linuxguy2009> Eric_J1: If your soundcards dont show then the kernel doesnt support them.That simple.
[06:48] <skreech> professor_: Crap load of errors. including the one I saw with the refresh being wrong and the resolution being gimped . The wirkaround doesn't seem to work with me
[06:48] <Eric_J1> damn...
[06:48] <forces> hello?
[06:49] <professor_> skreech: so others have had problems with that monitor on ubuntu?
[06:49] <Eric_J1> any idea when that will be fixed?
[06:49] <squiggie> can anyone help me with a simple shell script?
[06:49]  * skreech shurgs. Some monitor like this. Sony and JVC and such
[06:49] <linuxguy2009> Eric_J1: What cards?
[06:49] <forces> how can I disable the gnome keyring?
[06:49] <ShapeShifter499> nvm I think I'm good now
[06:49] <ShapeShifter499> bye
[06:49] <professor_> skreech: some monitors have poor EDID and they make up for it in Windows drivers or something
[06:49] <Eric_J1> Creative Labs X-Fi Fatal1ty and Realtek '97
[06:49] <moymoy> squiggie: go ahead and tell us what you want the script to do
[06:50] <linuxguy2009> Eric_J1: Realtek should work out of the box. X-Fi is a no go for sure.
[06:50] <skreech> professor_: Right but it was workng right up until Ubuntu decided to install some packages silently
[06:50] <tbryant> I just installed Ubuntu 9.04, but when I try to "sudo apt-get upgrade" most things went through, but I have some packages that didn't upgrade and won't, and I can't run Firefox.
[06:50] <professor_> just keep trying searching google for a while and let me know how you go, I have had this problem in the past with a Viewsonic monitor too
[06:50] <professor_> were you using binary nvidia drivers previously?
[06:50] <skreech> This is a dell monitor could be anythign behind it :)
[06:50] <Eric_J1> they were working fine until a day or two ago
[06:50] <professor_> how old is your install?
[06:50] <skreech> Yes
[06:50] <Eric_J1> both
[06:50] <linuxguy2009> Eric_J1: Creative has beta X-Fi drivers thats about all there is from what I hear.
[06:50] <professor_> skreech: did you customise or install anything not from synaptic?
[06:51] <omegamormegil> brEz:  In the VirtualBox settings for that VM, go to the “Network” page and select “Host Interface” in the drop down list for the “Attached to” field.
[06:51] <skreech> professor_: Yes but 173. I had the machine running for a few days and came home and rebooted to find a 180 driver and no X
[06:51] <linuxguy2009> Eric_J1: What did you change?
[06:51] <squiggie> moymoy: itunes has seemed to created a lot of duplicates on my audio folder and it appended most of them with a 1 so i just need to loop through each folder in the library deleting *1.mp3
[06:51] <professor_> skreech: change any config files previously
[06:51] <Eric_J1> I think I was using those, but I've had sound for the last month os so that I was using ubuntu
[06:51] <professor_> skreech: well that's a good start
[06:51] <skreech> professor_: Nope Ubuntu did a silent upgrade to 180 driver
[06:51] <Eric_J1> the only thing I can think of was that I installed Virtual Box
[06:51] <professor_> skreech: it narrows it down
[06:51] <Eric_J1> but I've played games with sound since then
[06:51] <Cryptic_Donkey> tbryant,  Have you tried using the xmission mirrors?
[06:51] <professor_> skreech: upgrades shouldn't happen automatically unless you tell it
[06:51] <moymoy> squiggie: you don't need a shell script to do that.. one line of command will suffice
[06:51] <Cryptic_Donkey> tbryant,  Have you tried using the xmission mirrors?
[06:51] <professor_> skreech: google version 180 driver with that monitor model see what happens please
[06:51] <linuxguy2009> Eric_J1: So sound just wont work in virtualbox or on your main ubuntu system itself?
[06:51] <jigpe> hello how to install windowsxp in ubuntu (dual boot) i already install ubuntu and use all space for ubuntu..
[06:52] <skreech> Which has issues with my video card. it sets the range pretty high for refresh so X doesn't work
[06:52] <brEz> omegamormegil: I definatly don't have that :P
[06:52] <Eric_J1> it stopped working once I deleted the Virtual Box partitions
[06:52] <tbryant> Cryptic_Donkey, no, going to try that now.
[06:52] <sebsebseb> jigpe: What do you want to use XP for?
[06:52] <linuxguy2009> jigpe: Install Windows  then Linux, in that order.
[06:52] <skreech>  I fixed that then found the resolution was shot. Found out I had the 180 driver and rolled back to 173
[06:52] <squiggie> moymoy: i have the ls -R | grep 1.mp3 but how do I delete them?
[06:52] <professor_> skreech: what video card
[06:52] <professor_> skreech: google that and ubuntu too
[06:52] <sebsebseb> linuxguy2009: it can be done the other way round to,  and  sometimes it's way better to recommend a virtual machine
[06:52] <Eric_J1> I am assuming it had something to do with the Kernel updates, since I think it was a recent thing, but no idea
[06:52] <skreech> nvidia 5200 Geforce FX
[06:52] <moymoy> squiggie: find /path/to/music/folder -type f -name '*1.mp3' -exec rm -v '{}' \;
[06:52] <omegamormegil> brEz:  What version of VirtualBox are you running?
[06:52] <professor_> skreech: similar to me and it works
[06:53] <professor_> skreech: worst case scenario - would a fresh install kill you?
[06:53] <Sp0d> okay here it goes, and yes im new to this :P http://paste.ubuntu.com/240915/
[06:53] <squiggie> moymoy: thanks, i will give that a try
[06:53] <skreech> professor_: Right and it has a workaround for the problem But that doesn't work either
[06:53] <sebsebseb> linuxguy2009: sometimes? a lot of the time more like it, unless they are a Windows 3D gamer
[06:53] <linuxguy2009> sebsebseb: Well dont tell me, I already know that. Tell eric
[06:53] <professor_> skreech: if google does not turn anything up which I think it should
[06:53] <linuxguy2009> hehe
[06:53] <skreech> professor_: No but then I would just install karmic :-p
[06:53] <professor_> skreech:
[06:53] <sebsebseb> linuxguy2009: is that  his name?
[06:53] <professor_> skreech: what was the workaround - link please
[06:53] <brEz> omegamormegil: 3.0.2
[06:53] <skreech> Hold on
[06:53] <linuxguy2009> Eric_J1:
[06:53] <sebsebseb> jigpe: see the messages above that  I put to linuxguy2009
[06:53] <moymoy> squiggie: no problem
[06:53] <tbryant> Cryptic_Donkey, same errors.
[06:53] <sy1> is gnome better or kde ?
[06:53] <Eric_J1> ?
[06:53] <clawtooph> is network support suppose to work out of the desktop box? in my case its not working, so just asking
[06:54] <DarkMage26> linuxguy2009: how do I use pitivi to convert the vob files?
[06:54] <Eric_J1> Linuxguy: there was no text
[06:54] <sy1> which more stable ?
[06:54] <tate> I renamed my home directory by mistake, now I am unable to login. Is there a way yo create a user with administrative privileges using sudo.
[06:54] <linuxguy2009>  sy1: Try em both. You decide. We cant decide for you.
[06:54] <sebsebseb> sy1: Gnome and KDE 3 the older version :)
[06:54] <skreech> sy1: The one you like best is better
[06:54] <sebsebseb> sy1: KDE 4 is  not very stable
[06:54] <sy1> what is new ?
[06:54] <sebsebseb> sy1: or whatever
[06:54] <sy1> and stable
[06:54] <skreech> sebsebseb: ha ha :)
[06:54] <skreech> KDE4 is pretty stable
[06:54] <omegamormegil> brEz:  I didn't know that version existed :P
[06:54] <sebsebseb> skreech: why?
[06:54] <sy1> waht about using XFS ?
[06:54] <sy1> on these ?
[06:54] <sy1> KDE or Gnome ?
[06:55] <sy1> Will it be better ?
[06:55] <jigpe> ok thanks
[06:55] <squiggie> moymoy: looks like that worked. that was easier than i thought! Thanks.
[06:55] <linuxguy2009> DarkMage26: Ah you need to search for documentation.
[06:55] <sebsebseb> sy1: XFS on Ubuntu hmm   does gparted even  support that the  Ubuntu gparted
[06:55] <Eric_J1> hello?
[06:55] <rob__> #channels
[06:55] <tate> I have created one user, wc I am using now but this user has no admin privileges
[06:55] <brEz> omegamormegil: must be new? I got it today
[06:55] <moymoy> squiggie: no problem.. come back again if you have any problems!
[06:55] <sy1> i see
[06:55] <tbryant> Cryptic_Donkey, xulrunner-1.9, firefox-3.0, firefox-3.0-branding, firefox, xulrunner-1.9-gnome-support, firefox-3.0-gnome-support, firefox-gnome-support are the errors
[06:55] <sy1> so will we have a chance to use xfs ?
[06:55] <tate> I have created one user, wc I am using now but this user has no admin privileges
[06:55] <sy1> for ubuntu ?
[06:55] <sebsebseb> sy1: maybe with the alternate CD or something,  you may want to do Ext4 instead :)
[06:55] <tbryant> Cryptic_Donkey, I get a bunch of errors like "dpkg: error processing firefox-gnome-support (--configure):"
[06:56] <tate> >	I renamed my home directory by mistake, now I am unable to login. Is there a way yo create a user with administrative privileges using sudo
[06:56] <sebsebseb> sy1: altough some think it's not quite stable enough yet in 9.04, default for 9.10 though#
[06:56] <skreech> professor_: https://answers.launchpad.net/dkms/+question/59519
[06:56] <professor_> please give me half an hour or so
[06:56] <skreech> sebsebseb: really? thought they had decided against that
[06:56] <Cryptic_Donkey> tbryant,  what irc client  are you using?
[06:56] <sebsebseb> sy1: Ext3 is the default file system at the moment
[06:56] <tbryant> XChat
[06:56] <tbryant> Cryptic_Donkey, ^^
[06:56] <professor_> skreech: I'm tossing some weights around and replying between sets :-) will look 4u
[06:56] <skreech> professor_: Ok ping me when you get back I'll be trying the other xorg
[06:56] <linuxguy2009>  tate: restore your system backup. You do have a system backup right? hehe
[06:56] <toyimp> I picked up a GTK2.x theme and for some reason the windows are not transparent like they look in the pic. Why?
[06:57] <Purpley> sebastien__, what is the best file system to use?
[06:57] <sebsebseb> skreech: yep default  for 9.10,  which means  people that have  Ubuntu on Ext3, should clean install Ubuntu for 9.10 and  the Ext4 when it's time :)  for full Ext4 support
[06:57] <omegamormegil> brEz:  This version calls it a Bridged Network.
[06:57] <Purpley> sebsebseb, what is the best file system to use
[06:57] <professor_> please do try the other conf by renaming it to xorg.conf after backing up the current one just in case, reboot, and look through xorg log
[06:57] <Purpley> sorry sebastien__
[06:57] <professor_> and dmesg / var/log/messages in the meantime
[06:57] <linuxguy2009> toyimp: got compiz going?
[06:57] <brEz> omegamormegil: all I have is file > preferences
[06:57] <skreech> sebsebseb: Can't you upgrade the flesystem in place?
[06:58] <tbryant> I'm getting a bunch of dpkg errors when I try to "sudo apt-get upgrade" my freshly-installed system. Can anyone help?
[06:58] <sebsebseb> Purpley: depends on  what the computer is being used for,   but for  home usage,   Ext3  is  alright for now,  Ext4   is on the verge of replacing it though as the default file system for most  desktop Linux distros :)
[06:58] <skreech> professor_: Xlog I doubt will have anything it thinks 640x480 is just grand
[06:58] <Cryptic_Donkey> tbryant, I suguuesg that you  force quit all instances of firefox and try the updates again
[06:58] <sebsebseb> skreech: yes, but the Ext3 to Ext4 conversion isn't good enough, so for full Ext4 support you must clean install
[06:58] <skreech> ok
[06:58] <professor_> skreech: also please look for xorg refresh rates for your monitor
[06:58] <toothdecay> hmmm, Audacious or Quod Libet, I can't decide!
[06:58] <professor_> skreech: neither config seems to specify refresh rates (old one is commented out) for some reason, not sure if that is usual
[06:58] <tbryant> Cryptic_Donkey, there aren't any instances of Firefox :\
[06:58] <brEz> all my settings are right, I'll just upll my hair out, rather than flood the ubuntu room with offtopic ;P
[06:59] <skreech> professor_: because it's way higher than the monitor So all I get is a black screen
[06:59] <moymoy> brEz: have you tried ssh from a linux machine to your virtual box?
[06:59] <linuxguy2009> tate: Can you login to your normal account at all?
[06:59] <brEz> not yet
[06:59] <brEz> I don't think it would make a difference, the virtualbox isn't visible on the network, but I can view the web
[07:00] <omegamormegil> brEz:   I wish I had it installed.  Let me refer you to the user manual - it has detailed instructions.  Check out page 86.  http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/3.0.2/UserManual.pdf
[07:00] <brEz> omegamormegil: thanks for you help :)
[07:00] <brEz> moymoy: thanks you 2  :)
[07:00] <tate> I do not have a sytem back up
[07:00] <Cryptic_Donkey> tbryant, try rebooting in single user mode and doing an apt-guiget upgrade with no
[07:00] <toyimp> linuxguy2009, well I just tried starting it. And my windows crapped out. I must have a problem with the current install. Thanks for makin me notice haha
[07:00] <omegamormegil> brEz:  No problem, hope it helps :)
[07:00] <_professor_> skreech: if this workaround is like yours it is something different, I will need some time to look at it
[07:01] <Cryptic_Donkey> tbryant, try rebooting in single user mode and doing an apt-guiget upgrade with no  gui
[07:01] <linuxguy2009> tate: Can you login to your normal account at all?
[07:01] <tbryant> Cryptic_Donkey, I've tried that.
[07:01] <tate> I need to create a user with admin priviledges (or login in as root)
[07:01] <_professor_> skreech: you got those errors discussed int he workaorund?
[07:01] <skreech> _professor_: brb reboooting
[07:01] <linuxguy2009>  tate: Ok someone else can help ya I feel like im talking to the wall here. hehe
[07:01] <_professor_> EE failed to load module type1 (module does not exist)
[07:01] <_professor_> EE Nvidia(0) failed to ini the Nvidia Graphics Device PCI 1.00
[07:03] <Cryptic_Donkey> tbryant,  isuggest that back up all  important data and do a fresh install.
[07:03] <tate> I can not login in into my account
[07:03]  * tbryant sighs
[07:03] <tate> I am going to try somethng else
[07:03] <tate> thank you for your help guys
[07:03] <tbryant> I just installed. I guess I'm installing again though..
[07:04] <ammar> hey Brandon
[07:04] <sy1> hello
[07:04] <sy1> I am back
[07:04] <BellinXFelon> Gnea : can you help me with my external usb harddrive
[07:05] <linuxguy2009> BellinXFelon: Ask your question.
[07:05] <sy1> ethernet connection to the computer must be disable befor swtiching to wireless in Ubuntu ?
[07:05] <brandon> hey!
[07:05] <BellinXFelon> linuxguy2009 : i cant write to it
[07:05] <jsf_x35a> Hey, does anyone here know why eSATA drives don't automount?
[07:05] <nA_tE> Hello
[07:05] <linuxguy2009> BellinXFelon: Dont have write permissions?
[07:05] <sy1> esata requires drivers ?
[07:05] <sy1> like windows ?
[07:05] <skreech> professor_: Cursed nvidia
[07:05] <jsf_x35a> oh
[07:05] <BellinXFelon> linuxguy2009 : no i dont
[07:05] <jsf_x35a> thnx
[07:05] <sy1> what brand of casing is crucial to mount i think
[07:06] <ammar> Any Ubuntu Mac Users?
[07:06] <skreech> !ma
[07:06] <skreech> !mac
[07:06] <linuxguy2009> BellinXFelon: "gksudo nautilus" then you can change driver permission.
[07:06] <skreech> Hmm
[07:06] <rbarlow> ubuntu macbook pro 2,2 user
[07:06] <skreech> there should be an #ubuntu-mac
[07:06] <sy1> is there a way to burn the ubuntu cd and make it bootable ?
[07:06] <linuxguy2009> BellinXFelon: in nautilus open the drive and then go up a level to the root of the drive is visable as a folder. Right click and go to pewrmissions tab. Set it like you want.
[07:06] <professor_> skreech: do you have a Live CD you can try?  be interesting to see if the non binary driver on a live CD has problems
[07:06] <sy1> because i cannot find 800 mb cdr in Malaysia
[07:07] <skreech> professor_: oooooooooh good idea
[07:07] <professor_> skreech: and if not if there is anything you could pull out of that xorg conf
[07:07] <skreech> ok I'll try that :)
[07:07] <sebsebseb> !install |  sy1
[07:07] <sy1> i want to burn the ubuntu cd to dvd and make it bootable
[07:07] <sy1> is this possible ?
[07:07] <sebsebseb> !usb |  sy1
[07:07] <linuxguy2009> sy1: sure is
[07:07] <sebsebseb> sy1: yes you can burn it to DVD
[07:07] <professor_> skreech: try a non ubuntu live cd too if you ahve one lying around
[07:08] <skreech> I have a SUSE
[07:08] <sy1> what software to use to burn to dvd ?
[07:08] <professor_> skreech: or a USB install like these guys are talking about
[07:08] <rbarlow> ammar: previously i've dual booted mac and ubuntu, though right now my mac is running ubuntu and nothing else
[07:08] <sy1> from the cdr copy ?
[07:08] <professor_> skreech: try both then
[07:08] <sebsebseb> sy1: Brasero or K3B
[07:08] <sy1> my brasero have problem
[07:08] <professor_> skreech: if anything it will help narrow it down
[07:08] <linuxguy2009> sy1: if you want to use a DVD you can even use up all that extra space by using something like UCK ubuntu customization kit and have all your fav apps installed out of the box. kinda cool to do.
[07:08] <sy1> it does not have the plugin to do that
[07:08] <sebsebseb> sy1: try K3B then, and it will want to put on some KDE stuff, if you haven't installed anything KDE before
[07:09] <sy1> uck ubuntu customisation where to find that on the internet ?
[07:09] <moymoy> brEz: i didn't do anything =\ but the feeling of fixing something always feels great.. i hope you get your ssh to work.. (do you even care? what do you do in the virtual machine?)
[07:09] <sebsebseb> sy1: what?
[07:09] <sy1> i ahve put in kde aleready
[07:09] <linuxguy2009> sy1: add/remove or synaptic its in the repos
[07:10] <brEz> moymoy: route all my net connections through ipv6
[07:10] <sy1> what do i type uck?
[07:10] <sy1> do I type 'uck' ?
[07:10] <linuxguy2009> sy1: yep uck in synaptic
[07:11] <eweb> all: I tried to install vmware-player via apt-get, it completly froze at the liciencing agreement, now when ever i try to install something, insted of insatlling the desired program, it installs vmware-player over and over? Is there i way i can flush the instll que?
[07:11] <sebsebseb> !info uck
[07:11] <linuxguy2009> sebsebseb: good call.
[07:11] <sebsebseb> linuxguy2009: didn't know about uck
[07:11] <Al_nz_lapt> evening peoples
[07:12] <skreech> !remaster
[07:12] <sebsebseb> skreech: well I knew  they could be changed
[07:12] <linuxguy2009> sebsebseb: ah yeah its really great you can make your own flavor of ubuntu basically.
[07:12] <moymoy> eweb: try `sudo dpkg-reconfigure vmware-player` to finall get it configured
[07:12] <eweb> moymoy: thank you
[07:13] <Al_nz_lapt> anyone know how to turn acpi off in the grub.conf? i keep getting a mesg about it, and it appears to be a known bug. to stop if clogging my logs you can apparently turn acpi off?
[07:13] <sebsebseb> linuxguy2009: with logout and shutdown in the system menu where it's meant to be :)   as well as  fast user account switcher if I want it?   so yeah like 8.10, but  based on 9.04 in my case :)
[07:13] <miatech> guys.. could anyone help? I'm trying to get a TV Tunner/Recorder usb working with mythTV
[07:13] <sebsebseb> linuxguy2009: if so that would be cool :)
[07:13] <professor_> has anyone had any problems VNC'ing in to a KDE / Ubuntu desktop with V9?
[07:14] <linuxguy2009> sebsebseb: Well you take your ISO image and then whatever you can accomplish with the terminal and/or synaptic, you can customize whatever you want.
[07:15] <sebsebseb> linuxguy2009: oh I see,  so it probably won't quite do what I want,  :(  ah well
[07:15] <nomad77> Al_nz_lapt: sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst,on the kernel line at end append acpi=off save it .if fails try noacpi.
[07:15] <eweb> moymoy: is there a way i can uninstall a broken/not fully installed program?
[07:15] <linuxguy2009> sebsebseb: Yeah adding to the panel would be tough.
[07:15] <clawtooph> i have a problem where i changed display resolution in ubuntu, and it was fine, but after i rebooted, the res is the new current resolution but the font size is screwed.. any clue how to fix? resizing doesnt help font now stays same size
[07:15] <zhan_zr> I have cross-compiled a program for my ARM9 board. But it emit "Can't resolve symbol __div0" at runtime. Does anyone know the issue?
[07:16] <linuxguy2009> sebsebseb: There are a few other projects like uck that can let you customize alot more then just apps. cant remeber the names though.
[07:16] <Al_nz_lapt> nomad77: k will try it
[07:16] <sebsebseb> linuxguy2009: I  can get it back in  system menu like upstream Gnome,   thing is I have to  remove their edited version of fusa ( fast user account switcher )  to do it, and I want both, like 8.10
[07:16] <zhan_zr> I have cross-compiled a program for my ARM9 board. But it emit "Can't resolve symbol __div0" at runtime. Does anyone know the issue?
[07:16] <linuxguy2009> sebsebseb: hehe way over my head.
[07:17] <linuxguy2009> sebsebseb: I know what you mean.
[07:17] <sebsebseb> linuxguy2009: I am talking about the thing used to shutdown and logout on the top right panel.
[07:17] <Al_nz_lapt> i cant edit menu.lst - its says unknown mime type
[07:17] <Al_nz_lapt> no edit mailcap rules found
[07:18] <linuxguy2009> sebsebseb: yeah I know. I have no clue how you could modify the panel in UCK. hmm
[07:18] <sebsebseb> linuxguy2009: probably can't that's what I was saying
[07:18] <linuxguy2009> sebsebseb: right
[07:19] <nomad77> Al_nz_lapt: try in xterm,nano,vi,vim its just a text file
[07:20] <sebsebseb> linuxguy2009: shame other distros...   I have reason to do another clean install on here,   and when I do i'll put Ubuntu on  and the KDE 3 repo :)   and do  karmic and such in virtual machines :)   and run that for a while.   anyway off topic,  and I am about to go
[07:20] <linuxguy2009> sebsebseb: rock on dude
[07:20] <moymoy> eweb: delete the entries in /var/cache/apt/archives/ with the name vm-player or whatever it is... and also delete the vm-player entries in /var/lib/dpkg/info and then start up synaptic to purge it
[07:21] <eweb> moymoy: thank you =)
[07:21] <moymoy> eweb: no problem.. tell me if any problems come up
[07:22] <Al_nz_lapt> nomad77: i now have acpi=off / ## END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNAL LIST
[07:22] <Al_nz_lapt> where / = new line
[07:22] <Al_nz_lapt> sound about rihgt"
[07:22] <Al_nz_lapt> right?
[07:24] <brEz> IT'S WORKING!
[07:24] <brEz> omegamormegil: you're not gonna believe this...
[07:25] <brEz> I didn't realise the vb had to be off to edit ;o
[07:25] <introuble> hello
[07:25] <introuble> good day
[07:25] <introuble> i was here yesterday
[07:26] <nomad77> Al_nz_lapt: no the kernel /boot/vmlinuz  etc... that line
[07:26] <professor_> skreech: doesn't look like there is a workaround there and if you tried some of those suggestions I wonder if another possibility would be to drop back to software nvidia driver 'nv' and reinstall the binary drivers from scratch using the restricted or hardware drivers option in ubuntu
[07:26] <introuble> and what a bitch the thingy was
[07:26] <HalfBloodPrince> Hey, can someone help?
[07:26] <skreech> professor_: Hmm maybe
[07:27] <OhioEric> hi everyone
[07:27] <skreech> HalfBloodPrince: WE don't know
[07:27] <HalfBloodPrince> :P
[07:27] <professor_> skreech: disclaimer - I am no expert - just been using Nvidia binary drivers for 10 years on linux
[07:27] <HalfBloodPrince> Well I was interested in the 'Dust' GTK+ theme
[07:27] <introuble> im on live ubuntu 6.06 install and i fdownloaded 9.04 burned it to a cd but the cd does not work!!!! i try to boot from the cd and it fails, it says no emulation???????
[07:27] <professor_> skreech: so I have some experience with nvidia binary issues although thankfully they are quite rare nowdays
[07:27] <introuble> so how come the cd that i burned with ubuntu 6.06 out of ubuntu 9.04 iso image didnt become bootable?
[07:27] <professor_> all - KDE4 seems to be stable on ubuntu although some plasma apps like to crash
[07:28] <introuble> pls help.... ^
[07:28] <professor_> I need to read up on ubuntu and KDE in general I think
[07:28] <HalfBloodPrince> When i installed ubuntu Dust was already available, though not "fancy". i tried installing the downloaded one it says "Can't move directory over directory"
[07:28] <moymoy> introuble: did you use brasero? or did that not exist in 6.06? i have no idea
[07:29] <introuble> moymoy, i used the built in burner in 6.06
[07:29] <skreech> professor_: Wow I've only been using them for 2 months and I hate them
[07:29] <moymoy> HalfBloodPrince: that's because the theme was already installed, and thus the Dust directory was already in your themes folder.. and gnome-appearance-manager couldn't replace it
[07:29] <professor_> skreech: how so
[07:29] <moymoy> introuble: maybe you can try using dd to trasfer the image onto disk
[07:30] <moymoy> introuble: you should first check the iso for errors anyway... do a md5sum on it to see if it's alright
[07:30] <skreech> I've had more trouble with them in two months than the three years of my ATI card
[07:30] <zachary> What is a good application to sync with blackberries?
[07:31] <mataks> what's the command in terminal to enable automatic numlock on reboot
[07:31] <brummbaer456> evening folks!
[07:31] <aamir> hello Rooms
[07:32] <eltume> hey guy help my ubuntu won't detect my physical discs
[07:32] <noobswipe> evening gents
[07:33] <brummbaer456> so i just changed the apache config in my server to run name-based virtual hosts so i can host multiple sites on the same box. everything works great on local machine, but from other pc internal & external i get an err. checking err log shows it's requesting /htdocs instead of /var/www/site1 or site2
[07:34] <professor_> skreech: really?  that's not good
[07:34] <professor_> skreech: I am using a GeForce 6600 and latest Ubuntu with a Viewsonic monitor and seems happy
[07:34] <eltume> how do I play a disc with Ubuntu 9.04 Minimal CD ???
[07:35] <skreech> professor_: Plus nvidia just dropped support for a whle set of cards with no real alternative
[07:35] <brummbaer456> i checked http.conf, apache2.conf and the /etc/apache2/sites-available/site1 and 2 and everything looks right, anything else i may be missing?
[07:35] <professor_> skreech: but older nvidia drivers will still work for those cards right, that's only to support newer cards?
[07:40] <eltume> how do I connect to the linux mint channel?
[07:40] <noobswipe> sup guys
[07:40] <sy1> hello
[07:40] <clarinet> Hello.
[07:41] <sy1> I ned to know how to install the newer version of FF3.5
[07:41] <moymoy> eltume: just type /join #channel-name
[07:41] <noobswipe> hi there
[07:41]  * IrcDawg hi
[07:41] <sy1> into ubuntu gnome
[07:41] <eltume> I don't know what network linux mint is on
[07:41] <moymoy> eltume: don't they have a website?
[07:42] <eltume> never mind it worked
[07:42] <nomad77> sy1: sudo apt-get install firefox-3.5 the binary name is shiretoko
[07:42] <skreech> professor_: Well yeah they can't recall the drivers already in the wild :)
[07:43] <professor_> skreech: why would they want to recall the older drivers
[07:43] <moymoy> eltume: the linuxmint channel on this server is unofficial it says.. try looking on their website for it instead
[07:44] <skreech> professor_: You asked if the support for older cards was still in older drivers
[07:44] <skreech> I think..
[07:44] <m0r0n> How do I fix my X server
[07:45] <professor_> m0r0n: how about some detail
[07:45] <m0r0n> [02:34:33] <arethusa> m0r0n: Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". [02:34:35] <arethusa> fix your X server
[07:47] <sy1> ok
[07:48] <sy1> can i download the brasero plugin and where is it ?
[07:48] <moymoy> m0r0n: try adding the line `extension "GLX"` under `section Device`
[07:48] <Sp0d> if anyone can help me debug a script that would be amazing! Thanks :) http://paste.ubuntu.com/240915/
[07:48] <sy1> how do i burn the cd to dvd of the ubuntu cdr ?
[07:49] <m0r0n> moymoy:  How do I go about doing that
[07:50] <nomad77> sy1: if auto is an option,i'd use it. if not tao iirc
[07:51] <moymoy> m0r0n: go to terminal and type `sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf`
[07:51] <cattellar> is there a way to mount multisector images? i tried gmountiso and acetoneiso and they faile
[07:51] <cattellar> d
[07:51] <professor_> sp0d: what happenes
[07:51] <Sp0d> when i input and answer the script quits and the terminal quits
[07:52] <Sp0d> all three other scripts work
[07:52] <IrcDawg> i just changed the apache config in my server to run Sp0d virtual hosts so
[07:52] <m0r0n> moymoy: I am so lost with this menu
[07:52] <moymoy> Sp0d: put what you have so far on a pastebin and put the link up..
[07:52] <IrcDawg> hosts so i can host multiple sites on the same box
[07:52] <IrcDawg> know what network linux mint channel ?
[07:53] <moymoy> m0r0n: to save, press CTRL+O and then exit with CTRL+X
[07:53] <Sp0d> http://paste.ubuntu.com/240915/
[07:53] <IrcDawg> of cards with no real alternative
[07:53] <sy1> BRB MOPPING THE FLOOR
[07:53] <IrcDawg> installed ubuntu dust was already available, though not fancy
[07:53] <IrcDawg> installing the downloaded one it says
[07:53] <professor_> does anyone know how to play an internet radio station as an alarm
[07:53] <professor_> script or cron or kalarm is fine
[07:53] <moymoy> Sp0d: ahh i spot an error
[07:54] <m0r0n> moymoy: I don't know how to add that line
[07:54] <Sp0d> haha it shouldnt be hard i have no idea what im doing :P
[07:54] <moymoy> m0r0n: move around with the arrow keys
[07:54] <moymoy> Sp0d: i see what you did wrong
[07:54] <owen1> i try to open firefox but it tells me it's already open, i type: ps aux | grep firefox  and see it. when trying to kill it with pkill/killall it say :no process killed, and next time i run ps i see different number. any clues?
[07:54] <mysteriousdarren> is it possible to use a usb controller for urban terror?
[07:55] <professor_> moymoy: ?
[07:55] <professor_> moymoy: suspense is killing us
[07:55] <moymoy> oh lol
[07:55] <moymoy> waiting for Sp0d to come back from wherever he is
[07:55] <Sp0d> ya im hear
[07:55] <professor_> ah
[07:55] <Suhail> Is there a proper way to install MySQLdb on debian from source?
[07:55] <Sp0d> i was waiting sorry
[07:55] <Suhail> ubuntu*
[07:55] <professor_> is this off peak or peak time for this channel anyone know
[07:56] <professor_> or is it pretty active 24x7
[07:56] <Sp0d> is it when it executes the other scripts?
[07:56] <stryker> guys, morning, my friend just updated ubuntu off a fresh install, and he restarted the computer, but its stuck, it says "434.7087241 Restarting System"
[07:56] <moymoy> Sp0d: where you have the if [ blah ] lines... you use the variable "answer" but you entered it as "&answer" when it should be "$answer"
[07:56] <professor_> stryker: it's early evening here lol
[07:56] <stryker> proffessor_: jaja i know
[07:56] <professor_> moymoy: ah!
[07:57] <stryker> proffesor_: i knew someone would say so ;)
[07:57] <moymoy> professor_: xD you coulda just had a look at the pastebin yourself =p .. you have good self control
[07:57] <professor_> moymoy: I did
[07:57] <professor_> moymoy: I've only started taking an interest in scripts ok?
[07:57] <aamir> brother i need download manger in ubuntu , can any say me which is the best for downloads application for film and data.
[07:58] <stryker> proffesor_: do you have any idead why its stuck on restart? "434.7087241 Restarting System"
[07:58] <professor_> aamir: hellanzb
[07:58] <professor_> stryker: anything on google?
[07:58] <stryker> proffessor_: nope
[07:58] <moymoy> professor_: that's fine.. WHOA! which reminds me.. i should link you to a post on ubuntuforums that inspired me .. it's all about the uses of bash scripting.. really interesting
[07:58] <moymoy> professor_: lemme findi t
[07:58] <owen1> i try to open firefox but it tells me it's already open, i type: ps aux | grep firefox  and see it. when trying to kill it with pkill/killall it say :no process killed, and next time i run ps i see different number. any clues?
[07:58] <professor_> moymoy: please!
[07:59] <Suhail> Does this mean: http://dehs.alioth.debian.org/report.php?package=python-mysqldb that's not been packaged yet?
[08:00] <moymoy> professor_: it has a nice little story that goes with it too..
[08:00] <moymoy> professor_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=233564
[08:00] <Sp0d> moymoy: it still closes the script no matter which option i choose still.  I checked the system monitor and it didn't open the server and hid it either.  Thanks for the input though
[08:00] <professor_> thanks!!!!
[08:00] <Sudom> moymoy : really ? that's already open, i type : ps aux | grep firefox and see it
[08:00] <stryker> professor_: he also says there is a blinking cursor, as if it is waiting for him to write something
[08:01] <moymoy> Sp0d: are all the other scripts executable? chmod them?
[08:01] <moymoy> Sp0d: okay.. i see another error
[08:01] <Sudom> i play a disc with ubuntu 9
[08:01] <Sp0d> moymoyh: go ahead
[08:01] <Sp0d> -h
[08:01] <moymoy> rofl
[08:01] <professor_> stryker: could be grub, that's happened to me or something like it
[08:01] <nomad77> owen1: i'd install htop and kill all firefox processes
[08:02] <professor_> stryker: does it look like it gets past the boot loader
[08:02] <stryker> proffessor_: it technically hasn't finished restarting
[08:02] <moymoy> Sp0d: okay .. if you type in `whereis [` in the terminal, you'll find that it's its own command just like `if` or `mv` or anything else.. same thing applies for `]`
[08:02] <stryker> proffessor_: see the thing is, he was doing the same thing with his laptop, and after the restart finished, the laptop's screen has gone dead and it does not show anything, so he's worried he'll mess up the desktop as well
[08:03] <moymoy> Sp0d: so at the end of `if [ "$answer" = "1"]` .. you need a space between the quote and ] .. so it should be `" ]` not `"]`
[08:03] <addison> anyone here able to help me get cURL enabled?
[08:03] <professor_> stryker: hard reset? can anyone here advise if that is wise
[08:04] <moymoy> Sudom: what? what was your problem?
[08:04] <professor_> sp0d: please paste the working script when you get it going
[08:04] <Sp0d> haha will do, still checking it though
[08:04] <Sp0d> do i need the ` after the ] ?
[08:04] <stryker> professor_: im not sure
[08:04] <noobswipe> how do i backtick?
[08:04] <moymoy> Sp0d: nope.. i like using the tickmarks as quotes when i type in stuff to IRC =p
[08:05] <Sp0d> ok thanks
[08:05] <moymoy> so
[08:05] <moymoy> Sp0d: if [ "$answer" = "1" ] ; then should work fine
[08:05] <linuxguy2009> gnight/gday everyone!
[08:05] <Sudom> ah !
[08:06] <HalfBloodPrince> Help please - I can't install Adobe Flash Player if i'm running 64-bit Ubuntu...?!
[08:06] <owen1> nomad77: i'll try it
[08:06] <professor_> got to go, nice chatting everyone
[08:06] <stryker> professor_: thanks
[08:07] <Sudom> run stryker virtual hosts so i just changed the apache config in my server to
[08:07]  * Gon ausente: Ausente por el momento
[08:07] <moymoy> Sp0d: got everything working?
[08:07] <Al_nz_lapt> that fixed it thanks nomad77
[08:07] <HalfBloodPrince> Help help?!
[08:07] <professor_> skreech: I will keep an eye out for you to see how you went
[08:07] <Sp0d> ya, i did all that and then realized i need the .sh at the end of the filenames
[08:07] <Sp0d> thanks so much moymoy
[08:08] <Sudom> so, )
[08:08] <HalfBloodPrince> Is there no way to install flash player on x64 ubuntu?
[08:08] <owen1> nomad77: how to find firefox in htop? i type /firefox but can't see it.
[08:08] <Sp0d> did you need me to post the working code like professor wanted?
[08:08] <moymoy> Sp0d: no problem.. and scripts don't really need a .whatever extension
[08:08] <stryker> HalfBloodPrince yes there is, one moment please
[08:08] <Sp0d> ya i see that, all the tuts i found ended in .sh so i figured it was manditory :P
[08:09] <Suhail> Anyone know where mysql_config is located on ubuntu?
[08:09] <moymoy> Sp0d: =p causes less confusion i suppose
[08:09] <Suhail> And is this package possible to be installed? http://dehs.alioth.debian.org/report.php?package=python-mysqldb
[08:09] <Suhail> with that version #
[08:09] <Sp0d> now my life will have 2 more secs of free time each day! haha thanks again moymoy!
[08:09] <stryker> HalfBloodPrince: http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html download that file
[08:09] <Sudom> disc with ubuntu 9
[08:09] <stryker> its the 64 bit flash
[08:09] <moymoy> Sp0d: and no problem =p
[08:09] <nomad77> owen1: in gnome-terminal type htop use arrow-keys scroll down to firefox line hit F9 then enter,repeat as needed for all firefox procesess,it'll highlight the line you're operating on
[08:10] <ready> hello
[08:10] <HalfBloodPrince> Oh THANKS
[08:10] <HalfBloodPrince> :)
[08:10] <papul> i want a linux distro that i less than 100 mb download, contains no gui and has irssi
[08:11] <papul> got no answer in ##linux
[08:11] <drew212> is anyone able and willing to help me install the ACX drivers?
[08:11] <owen1> nomad77: i don't see firefox. even when searching with / sign i don't see it.
[08:12] <nomad77> well logout/login then i guess
[08:12] <stryker> np, just make sure you extract it and and place it under .mozilla/plugins folder in the /home directoy, you might need to make the plugins folder, HalfBloodPrince
[08:12] <moymoy> papul: the ubuntu minimal install is 50MB
[08:12] <moymoy> papul: has no gui
[08:12] <papul> moymoy: can i use irsii with it?
[08:13] <nomad77> gotta go
[08:13] <moymoy> papul: i would assume you'd have to install some independencies .. but i think irsii is in the repos, so apt-get'ing it should have it working flawlessly .. and irssi doesn't need graphics to run so you'er good
[08:13] <moymoy> papul: but i prefer weechat =p
[08:14] <drew212> anyone willing to help me with the ACX drivers?
[08:14] <owen1> papul: irssi is the best client for irc
[08:14] <papul> owen1: i know that
[08:14] <owen1> papul: it has many addons and great channel #irssi
[08:14] <papul> irsii needs perl
[08:15] <papul> so does ubuntu minimal contains perl
[08:15] <owen1> papul: good luck with the minimal install. let me know how it goes.
[08:15] <HalfBloodPrince> stryker, i can't find /.mozilla in /home
[08:15] <drew212> bazhang: are you in the house?
[08:15] <papul> owen1: can i install thru pen drive??
[08:15] <moymoy> papul: the package manager handles it.. if perl is a dependency, then it'll be automatically installed by apt or aptitude
[08:15] <stryker> HalfBloodPrince: do you have the settings so that the hidden folders are shown?
[08:16] <papul> moymoy: ubuntu minimal has apt??
[08:16] <owen1> papul:i heard it's only possible to install from usb if there is a live cd. not sure if it's true.
[08:16] <moymoy> papul: yes, that's why it's a network install.. it downloads all the most recent packages (unless you tell it not to download ANYTHING at all, then it's basically just the linux kernel and some of the ubuntu stuff like apt)
[08:17] <papul> moymoy: thats great
[08:17] <stryker> .mozilla is a hidden folder halfbloodprince, open home and lick on Edit>Preferences
[08:17] <stryker> Phantom1654: hey bro :P
[08:17] <Phantom1654> Heyas
[08:18] <moymoy> papul: exactly what are you trying to do anyway? you just want a portable CLI IRC client?
[08:18] <drew212> nobody willing to help me install the ACX drivers?
[08:18] <owen1> papul: a week ago i was trying to create a netbootin (usb install) of the alternate CD, but it didn't work, eventualy i used xubuntu.
[08:18] <papul> moymoy: yeah
[08:18] <Phantom1654> Anyone here can help me out I will appreciate it very much
[08:18] <stryker> HalfBloodPrince: you got that done?
[08:18] <papul> moymoy: i will pm u
[08:18] <moymoy> papul: that's too troublesome.. if i were to do that, i'd do it a different way
[08:18] <moymoy> okay'
[08:18] <Phantom1654> I got an Acer Aspire 5920 with a Nvidia GeForce 8600 GT video card
[08:19] <Phantom1654> and I did the driver activation for it
[08:19] <owen1> papul: but i don't use xubuntu, i login to a text-based machine
[08:19] <Phantom1654> and now the monitor on my laptop doesnt turn on
[08:19] <Lorre> Hi guys, I'm trying to reinstall windows xp on my EeePC without CD drive, but no joy. Any tips?
[08:19] <Lorre> (it has the latest Eeebuntu)
[08:19] <skreech> Lorre: TRY ##WINDOWS ?
[08:19] <skreech> I mean try ##windows
[08:19] <moymoy> papul: have you pm'd me already?
[08:19] <owen1> how to kill firefox? pkill and killall don't work.
[08:20] <Lorre> Skreech: I'm guessing I'd have to delete all ubuntu kernels first, as it gives me an error upon cd-boot.
[08:20] <Lorre> usb-boot, i mean
[08:20] <stryker> HalfBloodPrince you there?
[08:21] <stronze> im wanting to learn php and want a progam i can typin coding in one window and shows me endstate of completed code in another window
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[08:22] <Suhail> Anyone have a clue where mysql_config is on ubuntu?
[08:26] <moymoy> Phantom1654: can you ssh into that machine? .. whenever you install nvidia drivers, they change the xorg.conf.. but fortunately, it makes a backup first.. you can try to use the backed up xorg.conf to see if you have any luck
[08:26] <stronze> im wanting to learn php and want a progam i can typin coding in one window and shows me endstate of completed code in another window
[08:27] <stryker> moymoy: ive been tryin to help him the past few days, the screen shows nothing, not even bios comes up
[08:28] <owen1> papul: i am installing ubuntu minimal CD. it's 10MB iso file.
[08:28] <papul> owen1: all i want is to run irssi
[08:29] <owen1> papul: may i ask why only irssi?
[08:29] <moymoy> stryker: Phantom1654: what exactly did he do?
[08:29] <papul> owen1: cause it runs on terminal
[08:29] <stryker> moymoy: he installed the driver ubuntu recommended for his graphics card
[08:29] <moymoy> papul: weechat runs on terminal
[08:30] <legend2440> Suhail: http://www.debianadmin.com/mysql-database-server-installation-and-configuration-in-ubuntu.html
[08:30] <Phantom1654> yeah
[08:30] <stryker> moymoy: i gotta go, hes still there jsut searching
[08:30] <stryker> gnight all
[08:30] <Phantom1654> night
[08:30] <stryker> night bro
[08:30] <moymoy> night
[08:30] <stronze> anyone got a suggestion for my question?
[08:30] <moymoy> Phantom1654: if not even the bios shows.. it's almost definitely hardware
[08:31] <Suhail> legend2440: I am trying to build MySQLdb (python module) from source not install MySQL....
[08:31] <Phantom1654> moymoy: Yeah I figured the video card could be turned off or burnt I wish the first one
[08:31] <moymoy> =\
[08:31] <drew212> anyone willing to help me compile the ACX source?
[08:31] <HektoR> hey guys ... is there any way to install IE tab for FireFox on ubuntu ?
[08:32] <moymoy> Phantom1654: on the bright side.. what if it's just your monitor broken? or just a loose connection for opening your lid up too much (laptop right?) .. in that case you should try plugging in svideo or whatever to your TV to see if it works
[08:32] <stronze> hektor - im pretty sure there is an add-on in firefox that has IE tab
[08:32] <Phantom1654> moymoy: Also I thought of the auto BIOS reset. If the laptop is left without energy for more than 72 hours it does a reset
[08:33] <moymoy> Phantom1654: 3 days is a long time =[
[08:33] <Phantom1654> moymoy: I tried connecting it to a external monitor and it doesn't show any images neither the BIOS
[08:33] <HektoR> stronze, yes but for ubuntu ?
[08:33] <Phantom1654> moymoy: it's been around 2 and a half so I am good
[08:33] <g3d> hi, I'm looking for a livecd distribution for simple, everyday use: web browsing, simple office documents, pdf, etc. basically a web-browsing terminal. Would Ubuntu live-cd fit?
[08:33] <moymoy> Phantom1654: then the bios reset is probably your best bet .. xD a little more waiting to go
[08:34] <sash_> g3d:  depends on your hardware, but ubuntu-live can all this
[08:34] <Pe3k> hello, I have problems with pure-ftpd installation http://paste.ubuntu.com/241111/
[08:34] <g3d> sash_: 17'' laptop with c2d and 2GB ram
[08:35] <Phantom1654> moymoy: Yeah I am doing so much stuff on this pc ( studying Computer Engineering Technology ) and I need it badly because I need to read an e-book
[08:35] <drew212> anyone willing to help me install some ACX drivers?
[08:35] <sash_> g3d:  allright, shouldnt be a problem ;)
[08:35] <maurice> sdcsqc
[08:35] <g3d> sash_: point is, it's for somebody who is not proficient with computers who I want to allow using my laptop occasionally without that person or me having to worry about breaking anything (and touching my files).
[08:36] <diddy> Why do you write:Send stdout and stderr to file: prog > file 2>&1 and not prog 2>&1 file ???
[08:36] <michael> hi
[08:36] <moymoy> Phantom1654: that sucks =\ i hope the BIOS reset works.. but you better start saving up some money just in case
[08:36] <sash_> g3d:  tipp: create links to often used programs (firefox, openoffice, vlc) on the desktop
[08:37] <drew212> anyone willing to help me install the ACX driver?
[08:37] <michael> hello i am having a problem
[08:37] <Pe3k> is there any command (dpkg ...) which can help? (http://paste.ubuntu.com/241111/)
[08:37] <moymoy> !ask | michael
[08:37] <g3d> sash_: yeah, that's what I was planning to do, but would that get saved somehow between sessions?
[08:37] <michael> i cant get on my wireless network
[08:37] <Phantom1654> moymoy: I know lolz at least the Hard Drive and Ram is working
[08:37] <sash_> g3d:  not per default. you must create a "persistent live system" on a usb-stick
[08:38] <stronze> anyone know of a good php progrram that will help me learn php?
[08:38] <stronze> more like test out code and see the results?
[08:38] <mattwj20021> I got my adhoc to work!
[08:38] <mattwj20021> :D
[08:38] <sash_> just google it. i think, there is an article at wiki.ubuntu.com, but im not sure
[08:38] <Phantom1654> moymoy: Hey which is the package I need to download for adobe flash player
[08:39] <moymoy> Phantom1654: the non-free one i think.. but i usually just download the deb from adobe's website
[08:39] <Crazyguy> stronze, http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=php+tutorial&aq=f&oq=&aqi=g10
[08:39] <g3d> sash_: hm... I guess I'll find something on that on ubuntu forums. Ok, thank you for your help!
[08:39] <Phantom1654> moymoy: okay cause my mom gets on my back because she needs freaking Farm Town
[08:40] <skreech> Phantom1654: flashplugin-nonfree
[08:40] <Keiffer> I made little mistake: I installed vnc and now I don't know how to see if it's running.
[08:40] <stronze> crazyguy - i got a tutorial to teach me but i need something to work in so i can see my results
[08:40] <moymoy> Phantom1654: rofl! her little flash games?
[08:40] <Keiffer> I don't want anyone to take over my machine
[08:40] <Pe3k> what can I do now? ->  /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: pure-ftpd is broken or not fully installed
[08:41] <moymoy> g3d: ubuntu already comes with a tool that does all that for you.. puts a liveCD on a usb stick with persistent mode
[08:41] <Phantom1654> moymoy: I hate facebook
[08:41] <Lyra> Hello, I'm really sorry to bothr you guys but I'm having a problem with my wireless internet. The drivers for the card are installed but there is no wlan0 interface.
[08:41] <michael> hi i cant get on any wireless network under the network manger applet and i have the wi-fi driver activated. can someone help me?
[08:41] <moymoy> Phantom1654: i KNEW it was facebook!
[08:41] <Guest33012> @Keiffer: type vino-preferences into a terminal and set a password
[08:41] <Crazyguy> stronze, oh, if you're using ubuntu you can just install apache2 and php5 on your own machine
[08:41] <sash_> moymoy:  the live-stick creator can do persistent installations? sure?
[08:41] <stronze> lyra  - i had o installl wicd to get my wireless to work
[08:42] <michael> ok what packet is it or where did you download it.
[08:42] <Phantom1654> moymoy: Good Night and thanks for your help :D
[08:43] <Lyra> wicd?
[08:43] <legend2440> stronze: netbeans is a pretty good overall IDE and it supports php   http://www.netbeans.org/features/php/
[08:43] <Bezczelna> ...
[08:43] <Keiffer> Guest33012 onlt 8 chars password?
[08:44] <moymoy> sash_: yeah
[08:44] <int0rnetz> @Keiffer: i guess, do you want to get a longer password? i dont know how to do that
[08:44] <stronze> omfg! i got konversation and after if downloaded opera it opens everything in opera and now i installed screem and everything opens in screem.how i return default to firefox?!
[08:44] <ctb619> Everytime i try to install Ubuntu 8.10 it loads for a few minutes, spits out some gibberish, and ends with "end trace 45d20ac5406a2fd" ... any ideas?
[08:44] <moymoy> sash_: there's a little checkbox for it
[08:44] <Keiffer> int0rnetz, yes. only 8..
[08:44] <sash_> moymoy:  since which release? jaunty?
[08:45] <int0rnetz> @Keiffer: then i guess that's the max you can get...
[08:45] <Lyra> I dont see a wcid in synatpic, where would I go to get that?
[08:45] <Lyra> synaptic*
[08:45] <salvatore_> Hi guys, I should download a webpage,  just see html source, but there is a php reidirect, than i have to download that page with out http
[08:45] <Keiffer> int0rnetz, OMG it's linux! 8 chars? dissapointing
[08:45] <moymoy> sash_: i'm not sure since what release.. i think since the beginning.. and it even has a slider that lets you reserve space for the user to use
[08:46] <moymoy> sash_: i'm pulling this from memory because i don't have the that utility installed on this machine.. i'm on a minimal install.. but i'm pretty sure it has it
[08:46] <Lyra> I know the computer is detcting the card, I just cant find wlan0
[08:46] <Lyra> detecting*
[08:46] <int0rnetz> @Keiffer: yeah it ain't that much... btw, if you want to load vino at login you should add /usr/lib/vino/vino-server to your autostarted apps :) ok i'm off now, good luck with it!
[08:47] <g3d> moymoy: found it, thanks
[08:48] <moymoy> g3d: no problem
[08:48] <Suhail> what is the path to mysql_config ?
[08:49] <stronze> lyra - wicd works perfect for me.the orginal one that came with ubuntu detected my wireless but refused to connect to a wireless network.after i switched to wicd,i have had no problems with wireless
[08:49] <stronze> except the stupid router
[08:49] <Sargun> How do I go from 8.04 LTS to 9.04 normal?
[08:50] <Crazyguy> Suhail, just a guess /etc/mysql/my.conf
[08:50] <skreech> Suhail: Look in /etc/mysql/
[08:50] <moymoy> Sargun: ALT+F2 and type in `update-manager -d`
[08:50] <Suhail> you're saying mysql_config == my.cnf?
[08:50] <Suhail> that sounds wrong?
[08:50] <Flannel> moymoy, Sargun: no.  Follow the instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IntrepidUpgrades
[08:51] <Suhail> (skreech & Crazyguy)
[08:51] <gandalfcome_> I get an unresponsive hdd under 8.04 when rsyncing data from one to another drive. The dmesg output I get starts with invalid opcode: 0000 [#1] SMP. I have googled the problem and saw that this is an reported error. People described it as kernel panick. Can someone confirm this?
[08:53] <Keiffer> Do you know any good Ubuntu activity logger? including keylogger
[08:53] <mechtech> how to rip a dvd in ubuntu?
[08:54] <balaji> fgfdg
[08:54] <sy1__> todisc gui
[08:54] <sy1__> using this to rip to dvd
[08:54] <mechtech> to rip from dvd?
[08:54] <stronze> anyone know how to get konversation to open urls to firefox and to STAY that way?
[08:55] <sy1__> i think you still can use this
[08:55] <sy1__> todiscgui
[08:55] <mechtech> is that a command?
[08:56] <sy1__> no
[08:56] <sy1__> you have to install it from synaptic
[08:57] <stronze> anyone know how to get konversation to open urls to firefox and to STAY that way?
[08:57] <legend2440> stronze: if your using gnome  check in  system>preferences>preferred applications is firefox set as default?
[08:58] <stronze> legend2440 - yes
[08:59] <legend2440> stronze: whats it using  oper?
[08:59] <legend2440> opera?
[08:59] <stronze> legend2440 - nothing that i know of.downloaded it to play runescape when i got REALLY bored
[09:01] <mechtech> stronze: I was having a similar issue with dvd playback...VLC was set as myeplayer kepDs and music every time I opened a file, or DVD...i just removed all the other media players I had installed default, but movi
[09:01] <stronze> legend2440 - konversation was opening into opera with urls but now its screem
[09:01] <clarinet> Hi, all.
[09:02] <legend2440> stronze: open firefox  then open edit>preferences>advanced and have firefox check if its the default browser
[09:04] <Bezczelna> lol
[09:04] <stronze> it says it is and clicked on a url.
[09:04] <stronze> it opens to screem
[09:04] <Matutian2> hi all
[09:05] <decomp> are there any VNC client/server combos that provide high resolution graphics? its been a while since i used them and need it for my mac and linux server. Both reside on a hard line in my office. Currently i can play with the setting of my mac vnc client but still cant get it to display a good graphical representation of my kde4 desktop.
[09:06] <Paschu> Hi
[09:06] <stronze> legend2440 - ill figure it out tomorrow.im exhausted
[09:06] <mechtech> !hi | Paschu
[09:07] <Paschu> can i edit videos in ubuntu?
[09:07] <stronze> legend2440 - about to fall asleep on laptop
[09:07] <stronze> night
[09:07] <Paschu> lol? its early morning here
[09:07] <papul_> moymoy: hav done it
[09:07] <Paschu> 10 am
[09:07] <Paschu> or 10:07
[09:08] <papul_> hey moymoy
[09:08] <Paschu> But can i  edit videos in ubuntu? its very important for me
[09:09] <fg56lx> When ever I listen to music for any length of time, in any program, it begins to skip and stutter. What would cause this? And how can i fix it?
[09:10] <Paschu> update the codecs
[09:10] <Paschu> maybe it will work :D
[09:11] <bazhang> http://techcityinc.com/2009/02/top-10-free-video-editors-for-ubuntu-linux/ Paschu
[09:12] <Paschu> i need something professional
[09:13] <Paschu> it must have all functions of sony vegas
[09:13] <bazhang> Paschu, did you read that link
[09:13] <Machtin> hm, i don't have sound in flash in firefox and opera.. why might that be?
[09:13] <linxeh> Paschu: then buy vegas and a windows box
[09:13] <Paschu> windows box?
[09:14] <linxeh> Paschu: you know, a PC running Windows
[09:14] <Paschu> ah
[09:14] <Paschu> but windows sucks
[09:14] <Paschu> i wanna change to linux
[09:14] <linxeh> then petition Sony to make a linux version
[09:14] <bazhang> Paschu, some of those are quite nice. none will be identical to the windows app you want.
[09:15] <linxeh> free software is good, but its not up to vegas standards though (yet)
[09:15] <linxeh> it's good enough for most things though
[09:15] <Paschu> yea yea i know
[09:15] <papul_> what is ubuntu minimal?
[09:15] <linxeh> Kino is fairly good
[09:15] <bazhang> !minimal | papul_
[09:16] <linxeh> Paschu: http://www.kinodv.org/article/static/2
[09:16] <Paschu> i want to do some effects like muzzleflash and so on
[09:16] <Paschu> and greenscreen
[09:16] <Paschu> thats it
[09:16] <papul_> bazhang: how much will it download at the least
[09:16] <Paschu> i dont need more
[09:16] <linxeh> Paschu: you just said you needed vegas features! :P
[09:16] <bazhang> papul_, did you read the link?
[09:16] <papul_> bazhang: and can i dual boot it with windows xp?
[09:16] <Paschu> :P
[09:16] <linxeh> Paschu: kino will do what you want - its on that link that bazhang gave
[09:16] <Paschu> ^.^ thanks
[09:16] <papul_> bazhang: and can i dual boot it with windows xp?
[09:16] <bazhang> !info kino
[09:17] <papul_> bazhang: ????
[09:17] <bazhang> papul_, yes?
[09:17] <papul_> bazhang: and can i dual boot it with windows xp?
[09:18] <bazhang> papul_, of course you can
[09:18] <grawity> papul_: The full Ubuntu installer can automatically configure dualboot; I'm not sure about alternate/minimal.
[09:18] <legend2440> Machtin: http://newtoubuntu.wordpress.com/2009/04/25/ubuntu-904-no-sound-with-flash-videos/
[09:18] <bazhang> papul_, its a lot more work then the alternate though
[09:18] <linxeh> Paschu: kdenlive looks good too :)
[09:19] <Paschu> is there a program like garageband (mac) for linux?
[09:19] <papul_> grawity: the problem is that due to low ram live cd wont start
[09:19] <Paschu> LiVES looks nice
[09:19] <papul_> bazhang: i am ready to do work
[09:19] <ikonia> Paschu: look at stuiod64 and ubuntu studio, it's not as good though to be honest
[09:19] <grawity> papul_: The live CD has an "Install" option.
[09:19] <papul_> grawity: install doesn't work too
[09:19] <Paschu> studio64 for nintendo64? :D
[09:19] <grawity> papul_: ...how much RAM does it have?
[09:20] <ikonia> Paschu: no, it's a recording studio daw
[09:20] <grawity> papul_: Also, have you tried Xubuntu?
[09:20] <Paschu> ya i was just joking
[09:20] <Viliny> Hey guys, i run a half-bummed file server at home. Every time i boot i manually run the "ntfs-3g /dev/sdd1 /storage3usb" command to mount the external usb HD to a directory thats shared. Can i automate this? (of course but how?)
[09:20] <papul_> grawity: whats xubuntu??
[09:20] <papul_> grawity: i want terminal only no gui
[09:20] <grawity> papul_: Ah.
[09:21] <Machtin> legend2440: hm.. i just moved the .so-file from the 64bit-version to /usr/lib/opera/plugins
[09:21] <Machtin> that's the only thing that was in that tar.gz
[09:21] <papul_> !xubuntu
[09:21] <papul_> !xfce
[09:21] <mechtech> ripping my first DVD :)
[09:21] <Paschu> compiz loos so nice :D
[09:21] <grawity> Once you disable wobbly windows, yes.
[09:22] <mechtech> Paschu: did you enable the cube?
[09:22] <grawity> !ccsm
[09:22] <fg56lx> When ever I listen to music for any length of time, in any program, it begins to skip and stutter. What would cause this? And how can i fix it?
[09:22]  * grawity thinks Cube is only to be used when you have friends around.
[09:22] <falx> is there a simple way to force kubuntu to open in a resolution I want it to?
[09:23] <Paschu> i havent ubuntu yet
[09:23] <mechtech> fg56lx: audio card rivers
[09:23] <Paschu> DAMN
[09:23] <legend2440> Machtin: so its working now?
[09:23] <Machtin> legend2440: no.
[09:23] <Machtin> that's what i did in the first place.. and it worked in my former installation
[09:23] <fg56lx> mechtech: I never had this problem untill I reinstalled lastnight.
[09:23] <Machtin> that's what's confusing me actually.. hm.
[09:23] <legend2440> Machtin: your using ubuntu x64?
[09:23] <Machtin> yep
[09:24] <mechtech> fg56lx: well...perhaps it's the software you're using
[09:24] <angel_> what's wrong with pidgin? can't login to yahoo?
[09:24] <Paschu> i'll try ubuntu netbook remix
[09:24] <Machtin> legend2440: kubuntu to be more precise.. but that doesn't matter, i guess
[09:24] <fg56lx> mechtech: Every media player as well as youtube videos do it.
[09:25] <mechtech> fg56lx: drivers
[09:25] <fg56lx> Why would they work improperly now when they have worked fine in the past?
[09:25] <mechtech> fg56lx: or gstreamer
[09:25] <fg56lx> What is that?
[09:25] <falx> I've installed kubuntu as my first try at linux and the resolution is stuck at 800x600
[09:26] <falx> what can I do to fix that?
[09:26] <legend2440> Machtin: well there is a  flash deb file available here but i'm not familiar with x64   http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/  i would uninstall  flashplugin-nonfree first though before i tried the adobe one
[09:26] <mechtech> fg56lx: creates audio link or conduit between software and hardware
[09:26] <fg56lx> mechtech: How do I install it?
[09:26] <Machtin> legend2440: never installed it
[09:26] <mechtech> falx: lemme guess, you have an ATI chipset?
[09:26] <Machtin> and just checked, it's not installed
[09:26] <mechtech> fg56lx: synaptic
[09:27] <falx> i'm running it on virtual box on an x200 lenovo tablet
[09:27] <bazhang> http://tinyurl.com/pidgin-yahoo angel_
[09:27] <thief> Hi, I have been reading and following this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sixaxis however when I get to patching bluez, I do not have a bluez-utils-x.xx folder, and therefore the patch will not apply, can anyone help me get through finishing this guide?
[09:27] <falx> I think it's n-vidia integrated but it shouldn't matter with the software emulation right?
[09:27] <mechtech> falx: set virtualbox virtual resolution yet?
[09:27] <legend2440> Machtin: can you play youtube flash videos? and if so how are you doing that without the plugin?
[09:28] <falx> not sure, how would I do that?
[09:28] <Set_Killer> does the liveCD of ubuntu contains ati closed source drivers
[09:28] <Machtin> legend2440: i have the plugin.. but i used the one from the adobe site. and yes i can play them.. but with no sound :(
[09:28] <bazhang> falx, in vbox? what resolution were you hoping for?
[09:28] <mechtech> falx: settings in virtualbox
[09:28] <Paschu> awesome
[09:29] <awesomeguy> awesome?
[09:29] <Paschu> linux multi media studio
[09:29] <Paschu> i can make midi music with it
[09:29] <Paschu> thats awesome
[09:29] <legend2440> Machtin: oh i see. so you already have version 10,0,22,87 installed?
[09:29] <linxeh> Paschu: also check out rosegarden, lilypond, and ardour
[09:29] <Paschu> k
[09:30] <Machtin> legend2440: it is actually something like 10,0,32,..
[09:30] <Paschu> i tried renoise 2.0 on my windows computer
[09:30] <ctb619> I tried to install Ubuntu 8.10 in a dual boot set-up with windows xp.  Once Ubuntu finished installing, I was no longer able to boot with windows.  So I booted with my windows recovery cd and tried to fix the boot.  Subsequent to that I was no longer able to boot to Ubuntu, and when I tried to re-install Ubuntu it ended with this: ""end trace 45d20ac5406a2fd" and a blinking cursor.
[09:30] <linxeh> Paschu: you may also like to investigate linuxsampler
[09:30] <Machtin> i'll check, gimme a sec
[09:31] <Set_Killer> DOES ubuntu liveCD runs the propertiate ati drivers
[09:31] <mechtech> Paschu: now, if you have a midi interface and an old keyboard, you can use it as a midi controller
[09:31] <legend2440> Machtin: you can check here   http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/
[09:31] <Machtin> flashplugin-nonfree
[09:31] <Paschu> i dont know what you are talking about :D
[09:31] <Machtin> agh, sorry.
[09:31] <linxeh> mechtech: I have various new midi keyboards I use as sound sources, rather than as controllers :)
[09:31] <mechtech> Set_Killer: from what I can tell installed linux has no "correct"ATI drivers
[09:31] <linxeh> (I use a real piano as the controller)
[09:31] <Machtin> 10.0.32.18, legend2440
[09:32] <thief> Can anyone help me get my sixaxis controller working in ubuntu 9.0.4 the guide did not work
[09:32] <linxeh> this is getting offtopic though
[09:32] <Paschu> Ardour looks awesome
[09:32] <mechtech> linxeh: sweet...we should jam :)
[09:32] <linxeh> Paschu: it is :D
[09:32] <bazhang> Set_Killer, what card
[09:32] <Paschu> :D
[09:32] <Set_Killer> X550 radeon
[09:32] <falx> ok i don't think the problem is from vbox, I can't get autoresize to work
[09:32] <linxeh> Paschu: ##audio (small but growing)
[09:33] <thief> nevermind i think i found a guide
[09:33] <Paschu> k
[09:33] <mechtech> falx: what video chipset?
[09:33] <bazhang> Set_Killer, is that card a radeonhd? if not then the OSS drivers are the best option right now
[09:33] <spartan07> is there something that can run on 9.04 to replace root-tail?
[09:33] <bazhang> Set_Killer, ie fglrx does not work
[09:33] <Set_Killer> :(
[09:33] <linxeh> mechtech: yeah - though I never really got the whole online jam thing, I like playing in the same room more :)
[09:34] <mechtech> Set_Killer: you can thank ATI for not developing linux drivers for that
[09:34] <spartan07> i can't get root-tail to display on 9.04. has anyone got it to work?
[09:34] <mechtech> linxeh: didn't even know that was possible...was joking
[09:34] <Set_Killer> mechtech, but oss ati drivers are not good with gamez (nexuiz, wine)
[09:35] <krishna_> !APTFIX
[09:35] <krishna_> !aptfix
[09:35] <linxeh> mechtech: oh :) theres some jam software that you configure a fixed length, say 32 bars, and people jam over it then it streams the audio to the others in time (or something)
[09:35] <linxeh> cant remember what its called though
[09:35] <mechtech> Set_Killer: yeah...ati support is janky to say the least...shame too considering how many linux users have their hardware
[09:35] <brandon95g> promblem istalling flash please help
[09:36] <proximoo> hi there, im running on livecd and it doesnt find my raid0 hdd's, do i need to install a driver for my raid controller _
[09:36] <proximoo> ?*
[09:36] <Set_Killer> i have the idea to make a liveCD of ubuntu and to install wine on it and to play games, will it work ?
[09:36] <mechtech> linxeh: like you, I prefer live...in-person jam sessions :)
[09:36] <bazhang> !remaster | Set_Killer check this
[09:36] <chrisb_> brandon95g: what have you tried?
[09:37] <mechtech> Set_Killer: how are you going to install anything on a live cd?
[09:37] <Set_Killer> oh, liveUSB
[09:37] <brandon95g> i have tried downloading the deb file but is saysError: Dependency is not satisfiable: libnspr4-dev\
[09:37] <bazhang> !usb > Set_Killer
[09:37] <mechtech> Set_Killer: cannot write to a cd you're reading from
[09:38] <brandon95g> can any one help
[09:38] <Set_Killer> so after reboot the changes will not be saved :/
[09:38] <chrisb_> brandon95g: You mixing Debian packages with Ubuntu packages?
[09:39] <brandon95g> in the flash download site is said deb file ubuntu 8.04 or higher
[09:39] <falx> heh great now i've killed vbox xompletely
[09:39] <areels> what's wrong with volume in karmic?
[09:39] <Guest54290> hi
[09:40] <Boohbah> areels: i don't know, what?
[09:40] <mechtech> Set_Killer: no...you can;t make any changes to a cd that you're reading
[09:40] <brandon95g> so i do i download the adbobe flash?
[09:40] <areels> can't activate volume without touching it Boohbah
[09:40] <areels> volume mutes after mp3 finishes
[09:40] <kbp> how do I install Streaming Darwin Server on Ubuntu Server? apt-get install ...? (please help me fill in the ... thank you :) )
[09:41] <KingKimi> i am getting this.. how to fix this ? :Errors were encountered while processing: linux-image-2.6.28-14-generic linux-restricted-modules-2.6.28-14-generic linux-image-genericlinux-restricted-modules-genericlinux-generic
[09:41] <bazhang> areels, #ubuntu+1 for karmic
[09:41] <Boohbah> brandon95g: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[09:41] <areels> ok
[09:41] <chrisb_> brandon95g: Yeah, maybe there is an ubuntu package to do this 4 u?
[09:41] <poc> Is somebody good at php?
[09:42] <Boohbah> poc: ##php
[09:42] <KingKimi> when i try to install i get this  : http://paste.ubuntu.com/241218/
[09:42] <KingKimi> any one help ? ^
[09:42] <brandon95g> type that in terminal
[09:42] <Boohbah> brandon95g: yes
[09:43] <chrisb_> KingKimi: What errors?
[09:43] <brandon95g> it said E: Couldn't find package flashplugin-nonfree
[09:43] <KingKimi> chrisb_, when i try to install something... it says this  http://paste.ubuntu.com/241218/
[09:44] <KingKimi> chrisb_, i did only sudo apt-get install ejecter
[09:44] <chrisb_> brandon95g: set up your sources.lst properly
[09:44] <Boohbah> brandon95g: enable the multiverse repository
[09:44] <brandon95g> sorry i new to ubuntu how do i do that
[09:44] <iceroot> brandon95g: its called adobe-flashplugin
[09:44] <KingKimi> Brando753, system > admin > software sources
[09:45] <iceroot> brandon95g: sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin
[09:45] <iceroot> brandon95g: flashplugin-nonfree is the old flash in 8.04 - 8.10
[09:45] <kbp> join #linux
[09:46] <ikonia> KingKimi: what repos are enabled ?
[09:46] <KingKimi> ikonia, ??
[09:46] <ikonia> KingKimi: what repos are enabled ?
[09:46] <KingKimi> ikonia, in software sources... everything is checked
[09:46] <ikonia> even proposed ?
[09:46] <ikonia> !info linux-image
[09:47] <ikonia> KingKimi: even the proposed repos?
[09:47] <KingKimi> ikonia, where is that ?
[09:47] <ikonia> KingKimi: in software sources
[09:48] <iceroot> ikonia: why it is important which repos he has activate, look at his erros. apt-get has not installed some packages correctly
[09:48] <KingKimi> ikonia, i enablded now
[09:48] <ikonia> KingKimi: no - don't
[09:48] <carboy87> help
[09:48] <carboy87> I need help with my ubuntu
[09:48] <ikonia> iceroot: I see it has installed some correctly,
[09:48] <iceroot> carboy87: not without any details
[09:48] <ikonia> KingKimi: make that's not enabled
[09:48] <carboy87> well of course
[09:48] <chrisb_> KingKimi: You need to fix: debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process: Resource temporarily unavailable
[09:48] <KingKimi> ikonia,  :O  ok.. undoing
[09:49] <carboy87> I am stuck in safe mode i think
[09:49] <ikonia> KingKimi: now that you know your using the stable updates, remove the file /var/cache/debconf/config.dat and re-try the install
[09:49] <carboy87> how do i get it out of safe mode
[09:49] <iceroot> !details | carboy87
[09:49] <confusedBob> hey, does anyone else have problems with the framerate of full screen flash on jaunty?
[09:50] <mechtech> confusedbob: point me to a vid you can't see
[09:50] <iceroot> carboy87: just choose the normal ubuntu in grub
[09:50] <hrickards> What's the best way to get my package from Debian into Ubuntu?
[09:50] <kindofabuzz> i can sftp to my server but not ftp? do i need to set up something different for just ftp, need it for CM site
[09:50] <iceroot> hrickards: which package?
[09:50] <ikonia> KingKimi: sftp and ftp are two different things
[09:51] <iceroot> kindofabuzz: a ftpserver yu will need
[09:51] <kindofabuzz> ikonia, yeah i know
[09:51] <ikonia> kindofabuzz: then why are you asking ?
[09:51] <carboy87> k i have a problem with Safe mode Im running ubuntu version8.04 when i restart my computer i want it to run in normal mode but it run in safe mode still?
[09:51] <iceroot> kindofabuzz: like proftpd
[09:51] <bazhang> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages hrickards
[09:51] <hrickards> iceroot: lives (and lives-data, libweed0 and libweed-dev, all from same source package). It still needs to be manually added to the override file, which I'm told takes about a week.
[09:51] <carboy87> like that
[09:51] <diddy> What is wrong with the following passwd entry: User1:*:51:501:John Doe:/home/user1:/bin/bash ???
[09:51] <kindofabuzz> ikonia, i knew they were two different features but i figured if one was set up the other was too. guess not
[09:51] <hrickards> bazhang: Even if it's already in Debian?
[09:52] <ikonia> kindofabuzz: vsftpd is the most acceptable/commonly used ftp user
[09:52] <grawity> diddy: I see nothing wrong.
[09:52] <carboy87>  k i have a problem with Safe mode Im running ubuntu version8.04 when i restart my computer i want it to run in normal mode but it run in safe mode still?
[09:52] <ikonia> kindofabuzz: vsftpd is the most acceptable/commonly used ftp application sorry
[09:52] <hrickards> bazhang: Sorry just read the top bit
[09:52] <diddy> grawity, the account is locked.
[09:52] <ikonia> diddy: set a password
[09:52] <grawity> diddy: Did you check the matching line in /etc/shadow?
[09:52] <ikonia> diddy: use the useradmin gui if you are not comfortable
[09:52] <carboy87> hello?
[09:53] <carboy87> no one
[09:53] <carboy87>  k i have a problem with Safe mode Im running ubuntu version8.04 when i restart my computer i want it to run in normal mode but it run in safe mode still?
[09:53] <iceroot> carboy87: what is safe-mode?
[09:53] <bazhang> hrickards, released or unreleased from debian
[09:53] <carboy87> i dont know it like when everything on the screen iis huge!
[09:53] <carboy87> like really big
[09:53] <grawity> iceroot: It's the "safe graphics" mode.
[09:54] <iceroot> carboy87: you mean the desktop-icons and so on?
[09:54] <poc> I can't join it.
[09:54] <hrickards> bazhhang: It's currently waiting to be added to the override file, but it's been approved and everything. lintian clean (with pedantic)
[09:54] <grawity> carboy87: Can you pastebin the last few lines from /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[09:54] <carboy87> yes correct ice root
[09:54] <iceroot> grawity: sounds like windows-safe-mode. never heard of it in ubuntu
[09:54] <Paschu> :)
[09:54] <iceroot> grawity: but thank you
[09:54] <clarinet> How to switch to low-graphics mode in ubuntu?
[09:55] <carboy87> any ideas
[09:55] <diddy> grawity, Can there be a start in that line?
[09:55] <Boohbah> clarinet: ctrl-alt-f1
[09:55] <grawity> iceroot: When Xorg fails to initialize the graphics driver or something, it switches to "safe graphics" mode - VGA, 640x480x16.
[09:55] <carboy87> gentleman
[09:55] <grawity> diddy: A what?
[09:55] <diddy> grawity,  User1:*:51:501:John Doe:/home/user1:/bin/bash ???
[09:55] <Boohbah> clarinet: sorry, that will get you no graphics :)
[09:55] <ikonia> diddy: why are you not using the useradmin tools to setup the user ?
[09:55] <diddy> grawity, Are asterisks allowed there
[09:55] <clarinet> I know that.
[09:55] <ikonia> diddy: are you trying to create a user by adding details to /etc/passwd
[09:55] <diddy> ikonia, this is a test question.
[09:55] <grawity> diddy: Yes, they mean that the password is stored in '/etc/shadow'.
[09:55] <allquixotic> carboy87: Have you ever successfully started Ubuntu in "normal mode" (i.e., not low graphics mode)?
[09:55] <poc> How to join ##php
[09:55] <ikonia> diddy: no it's not
[09:56] <grawity> poc: You need to register your nick - go to #freenode for help.
[09:56] <ikonia> diddy: just tell us the truth about what you are trying to do
[09:56] <bazhang> hrickards, seems #ubuntu-motu would be the place to find out afaik
[09:56] <iceroot> poc: type /join ##php
[09:56] <diddy> grawity, that would be an x wouldn't it and not a *
[09:56] <ikonia> diddy: this channel is for ubuntu support
[09:56] <carboy87> yes this is the first time this has ever happend before
[09:56] <clarinet> Boohbah: I know that.
[09:56] <ueaoueoaaoeo> I *want* (not need) a program that'll back up the partition I'm using by automatically somehow unmounting it, running clonezilla (with saved data so I dont have to do anything), and then going back into tho system
[09:56] <diddy> ikonia, OK
[09:56] <grawity> diddy: Ah, hmm
[09:56] <ueaoueoaaoeo> that would be great
[09:56] <allquixotic> carboy87: Then something has changed on your system lately -- you might have performed an upgrade, installed third party software, accidentally deleted some files...
[09:56] <allquixotic> carboy87: Something has caused Ubuntu's graphics driver for your video card to fail, where it worked before.
[09:56]  * grawity curses Nautilus for trying to automount a filesystem that is still being resized.
[09:57] <carboy87> no i was just talking to people online and all of a sudden my computer froze and thats where i am
[09:57] <carboy87> now
[09:57] <grawity> diddy: Have you read the manpage of passwd(5)? man 5 passwd
[09:57] <Paschu> can i play xmoto in ubuntu? :D:D:D
[09:57] <allquixotic> carboy87: Your computer "froze"? You mean everything, including the mouse cursor?
[09:57] <carboy87> yes
[09:57] <carboy87> i had to turn it off
[09:57] <allquixotic> carboy87: That's called a kernel panic.
[09:57] <carboy87> and restart manually]
[09:57] <carboy87> kernal panic
[09:57] <ueaoueoaaoeo> i dont like having to reboot and load a whole other distro to back up. has anyone found a better way???
[09:57] <bazhang> Paschu, install it
[09:58] <allquixotic> carboy87: When you experience a kernel panic, it's possible that you might lose data if the operating system has recently written to a file that hasn't been pushed out to disk.
[09:58] <Paschu> i havent ubuntu installed yet
[09:58] <Paschu> i said that more than 5 times  xD
[09:58] <allquixotic> carboy87: If you installed updates using Update Manager shortly before the panic, it's possible that the updates were only partially committed, which might put the graphics driver in a bad state.
[09:58] <bazhang> Paschu, please chat in #ubuntu-offtopic ; here is support ONLY
[09:58] <Paschu> ah k
[09:58] <moncky> Paschu: whats xmoto a game?
[09:58] <ueaoueoaaoeo> anyone notice how fun it is to type ubuntu on dvorak?
[09:58] <bazhang> moncky, yes
[09:58] <brandon95g> i have still not able to get flash to work can some one give me step by step instructions please\
[09:58] <carboy87> i never installed any files
[09:58] <carboy87> at all
[09:59] <allquixotic> carboy87: About how long have you been using this installation of Ubuntu?
[09:59] <iceroot> !details | brandon95g
[09:59] <carboy87> brandon ill help you later
[09:59] <carboy87> alojng time
[09:59] <legend2440> ueaoueoaaoeo: i used these instruction to add entry to menu'lst that when i choose it it does what you are asking   http://opensuse.swerdna.org/suserescuecd.html
[09:59] <carboy87> ive been using this program since it first came out
[10:00] <allquixotic> carboy87: Well, something _has_ certainly changed on your system to cause the graphics driver to go from a working state to a non working state. Without examining your configuration more closely, I can't tell you exactly what happened. But the kernel panic is indicative of possible data loss.
[10:00] <ueaoueoaaoeo> legend2440 i did the same with parted magic instead of srcd
[10:00] <ueaoueoaaoeo> loads from hdd
[10:01] <carboy87> so your saying my graphics card is screwed
[10:01] <allquixotic> carboy87: No. I'm saying that the software on your hard drive that operates your graphics card from Ubuntu's side is defective.
[10:01] <brandon95g> i running newest version of ubuntu when i try to install flash from abdobe for 8.04 or higher i get this Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libnspr4-dev all others say unsupported archive
[10:01] <carboy87> thats imposible
[10:01] <grawity> carboy87: I asked you to pastebin the last few lines in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[10:01] <ikonia> allquixotic: what software would that be ?
[10:01] <allquixotic> carboy87: No, it's not. In fact, it's extremely possible.
[10:02] <ikonia> allquixotic: what software are you suggesting is deffective ?
[10:02] <iceroot> brandon95g: sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin
[10:02] <ikonia> brandon95g: flashplugin-nonfee
[10:02] <ikonia> !info adobe-flashplugin
[10:02] <iceroot> ikonia: its flash 10
[10:02] <allquixotic> ikonia: Based on his problem report so far, my understanding is that he did not manually change configuration; he did not update; so I am deducing that data loss caused the Xorg driver (or some part of the graphics stack) to become corrupted so that it won't load.
[10:02] <carboy87> no i installed it myself directly from a guy who helped invent linux
[10:02] <legend2440> ueaoueoaaoeo: yes. autorun script uses partimage to backup my ubuntu partition and then reboots back to ubuntu when done
[10:02] <iceroot> ikonia: flashplugin-nonfree is flash 9
[10:02] <carboy87> i dont think thats the problem
[10:02] <brandon95g> tried that saysE: Couldn't find package adobe-flashplugin
[10:02] <ueaoueoaaoeo> Question, If the grub dir exists on sda4, and sda4 gets formatted, do i lose grub functionality
[10:02] <ikonia> iceroot: package doesn't seem to exist
[10:03] <jrgen> im trying to install a thing but i must "run as root", how do i do that?
[10:03] <ikonia> allquixotic: how do you know it won't load ?
[10:03] <ikonia> ueaoueoaaoeo: yes
[10:03] <allquixotic> ikonia: Haven't you been paying attention? He said that Ubuntu starts in low graphics mode, where it didn't before.
[10:03] <iceroot> ikonia: adobe-flashplugin - Adobe Flash Player plugin version 10
[10:03] <moncky> jrgen: put sudo before the command you want to run ie sudo apt-get
[10:03] <carboy87> couldnt it just be a screen resolution problem\
[10:03] <iceroot> ikonia: apt-cache search adobe flash
[10:03] <ikonia> allquixotic: yes, I'm curious to how that's an xorg module neing corrupted
[10:03] <spartan07> does anyone here use root-tail?
[10:03]  * grawity sighs
[10:03] <jrgen> ty moncky :)
[10:03] <ikonia> !info adobe-flashplugin
[10:03] <ikonia> !info adobe-flash
[10:04] <ikonia> iceroot: what is the package name ?
[10:04] <moncky> !flash
[10:04] <ueaoueoaaoeo> legend thats fantastic! unfortunately partimage is a no go on my machine it doesnt like the AHCI mode
[10:04] <allquixotic> carboy87: If Ubuntu displays a pop-up saying that it's starting in low graphics mode, it is a deeper problem than simply setting the screen resolution. The system is loading a fallback driver; you're lucky you have a graphical display at all.
[10:04] <iceroot> ikonia: i have posted you the line from apt-cache search  adobe-flashplugin - Adobe Flash Player plugin version 10
[10:04] <ikonia> allquixotic: how do you know that?
[10:04] <iceroot> ikonia: adobe-flashplugin
[10:04] <ikonia> allquixotic: a screen setting out of range can cause that
[10:04] <legend2440> ueaoueoaaoeo: oh ok
[10:04] <ikonia> iceroot: it's not in the ubuntu repo !
[10:04] <ikonia> !info adobe-flashplugin
[10:04] <iceroot> ikonia: its in the universe or something like that
[10:04] <carboy87> liten there was no pop up
[10:04] <ikonia> iceroot: it doesn't appear to be
[10:04] <iceroot> ikonia: its no free software
[10:05] <ikonia> iceroot: which repo is it in ?
[10:05] <carboy87> nevermind i give up
[10:05] <brandon95g> how can i find out what version ubuntu i have?
[10:05] <grawity> Package: adobe-flashplugin / Section: partner/web
[10:05] <bazhang> brandon95g, lsb_release -a in terminal
[10:05] <iceroot> brandon95g: lsb_release -a
[10:05] <ikonia> brandon95g: lsb_release -a
[10:05] <allquixotic> ikonia: Sure, manually modifying Xorg.conf can cause similar problems, but he specifically stated that he has not made any modifications. Regardless of the problem, the best place to look is Xorg.0.log, which someone else already asked him to post...
[10:06] <spartan07> uname -a  = version
[10:06] <spartan07> type it in terminal
[10:06] <ikonia> allquixotic: totally acgree on that
[10:06] <carboy87> brandom
[10:06] <ueaoueoaaoeo> ikonia how can i circumvent such a dependency? i dont like grub being dependent on the partition a distro resides on
[10:06] <ikonia> spartan07: = kernel version
[10:06] <bazhang> spartan07, that is the kernel
[10:06] <carboy87> go to the system menu
[10:06] <suji> hi
[10:06] <ikonia> ueaoueoaaoeo: grub needs to be installed on a file system - you can't get around that
[10:06] <carboy87> and go down to system log
[10:06] <legend2440> brandon95g: in terminal type   lsb_release -a
[10:06] <jrgen> i got a message like this "You appear to running an X server; please exit X before installing." What do I do?
[10:06] <spartan07> my bad. thanks for the update
[10:06] <iceroot> ikonia: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaunty-changes@lists.ubuntu.com/msg09052.html  you see, its there :)
[10:07] <carboy87> sorry system manager
[10:07] <brandon95g> when i hit linl for flash on ubuntu page it says ould not find package 'flashplugin-installer'.
[10:07] <ueaoueoaaoeo> ikonia I guess the next best thing would be to put it on a never-used DSL install
[10:07] <mechtech> jrgen: kill xserver and continue installation from comand line...I guess
[10:07] <suji> when give the command sudo pbuilder create i got the following output http://pastebin.com/m51ac6014
[10:07] <suji> the base.tar.gz file wont create
[10:07] <ikonia> ueaoueoaaoeo: just keep it on your root file system as most people do
[10:07] <suji> what i do for that?
[10:07] <ikonia> iceroot: so it's a 3rd party repo
[10:08] <allquixotic> carboy87: Do you need instructions to post your Xorg.0.conf file? It's not difficult, especially if you are logged into that computer right now.
[10:08] <ueaoueoaaoeo> ikonia mayyybe someone made a minimal grub-only distro im going to google that
[10:08] <jrgen> mechtech this is the first time I ever see Linux, hehe... ty anyway
[10:08] <iceroot> ikonia: canoncial
[10:08] <ikonia> ueaoueoaaoeo: why do you want a distro just for grub
[10:08] <iceroot> ikonia: as i said, its no free software
[10:08] <ikonia> !info flashplugin-installer
[10:08] <iceroot> ikonia: but its much faster then flash 9 (flashplugin-nonfree)
[10:09] <mechtech> jrgen: don't take my word for it....many, many people in here with WAAAY more knowledge than me
[10:09] <ikonia> iceroot: that's the package flashplugin-installer
[10:09] <grawity> carboy87: As you wish. Don't expect any help either.
[10:09] <Mrokii> hello all. Is there anybody around with Mac-Hardware who could run a small script (found on the internet) and give me the results?
[10:09] <ueaoueoaaoeo> ikonia so i can relax knowing my other distro (that i use) have no dependency on each other
[10:09] <mechtech> Mrokii: you must be joking
[10:09] <ueaoueoaaoeo> ^distros
[10:09] <ikonia> ueaoueoaaoeo: put grub on a standalone boot partition, so no matter what distro you install /boot is shared amongst them
[10:09] <ikonia> ueaoueoaaoeo: there is no such thing as a distro that just installs grub
[10:10] <ueaoueoaaoeo> LOL ok
[10:10] <Mrokii> mechtech: why?
[10:10] <iceroot> ikonia: ah ok, in 8.04 flashplugin-nonfree = flash 9, adobe-flashplugin=flash 10  in jaunty, flashplugin-nonfree = flash10
[10:10] <mechtech> Mrokii: who would be that daft?
[10:10] <ueaoueoaaoeo> ikonia that idea is PPPEERRRFFFEECCTT
[10:10] <spartan07> does anyone here use something like root-tail or root-portal?
[10:10] <ueaoueoaaoeo> thanks ikonia
[10:10] <trashbarg> ueaoueoaaouo, you may want to give LiLo a try?
[10:10] <iceroot> !anyone | spartan07
[10:11] <th0r> ikonia: I think there is a small iso for a grub rescue disk or some such
[10:11] <ikonia> th0r: yes, that is a grub rescue disk, it does not install a linux distribution with just grub on it
[10:11] <moncky> th0r: super grub disk
[10:11] <ikonia> th0r: that's what he was looking for so grub was not controlled by other distributions
[10:11] <mechtech> Mrokii: you'd be better off pasting the contents of the script into pastebin and having one of these gurus peruse it and tell you what the output should be
[10:11] <Mrokii> mechtech: the script is found here: http://alex.csgraf.de/qemu/getkey and there is nothing dangerous to it
[10:11] <spartan07> im just trying to find out a replacement for root-tail I cant get it to run on 9.04 and there is very little documentation on it for newer versions of ubuntu
[10:12] <moncky> spartan07: what task are you trying to complete? tail -f in the terminal works just fine
[10:13] <spartan07> yea but I would like to not have many terminal windows open
[10:13] <xrfang> hello, could anybody recommend a duplicated file finder (other than fslint and command line ones)?
[10:14] <allquixotic> spartan07: Does root-tail just hang when you try to run it on 9.04?
[10:14] <spartan07> Im running a terminal with screen and 5 bash tabs on it. I would love to have it on the Desktop all the time
[10:14] <spartan07> it doesn t show anything
[10:14] <Boohbah> i'm trying to use usb-creator in jaunty to write karmic alpha 3 iso to my usb stick, but it won't boot. i created a clean w95 fat32 partition and set the bootable flag. why won't it boot?
[10:14] <mechtech> Mrokii: I see you're trying to get the AppleSMC Module key so your fans will operate correctly...is that it?
[10:15] <clarinet> What is the most powerful mathematics software in Linux?
[10:15] <mechtech> Mrokii: you're backporting the applesmc module
[10:15] <Mrokii> mechtech, I am trying to get the keys, right
[10:15] <allquixotic> spartan07: Looks like it wasn't even tested before it was uploaded to 9.04. Typical bitrot. I'll look at it
[10:15] <Flannel> clarinet: for doing what sort of mathematics?
[10:15] <allquixotic> Might be able to come up with a patch, it's a simple program
[10:15] <Boohbah> clarinet: http://www.wolfram.com/news/presslinux.html
[10:16] <clarinet> Flannel all field.
[10:16] <spartan07> that would be awesome. thank you
[10:16] <mechtech> Mrokii: sorry, but the only macs around here are my wife's and my mother-in-laws and you don't piss off women...if mama aint happy, aint nobody happy...get me?
[10:17] <raven> hello - i am looking for a simple sine-tone-generator - could you give me a hint? tnx
[10:17] <clarinet> Boohbah I mean free software.
[10:17] <Mrokii> mechtech, too bad :/
[10:17] <mechtech> Mrokii: good luck though
[10:17] <Mrokii> thanks
[10:17] <th0r> allquixotic: spartan07 root-tail actually works, but the desktop environments overwrite it. You can get it running in kde by checking the box to allow programs on the desktop, I don't know if gnome has the same option...I know xfce doesn't
[10:18] <Boohbah> clarinet: http://www.google.com/search?q=mathematica+open+source
[10:18] <jeeves> how can I fix my GRUB loader on /dev/sda1 ?
[10:18] <allquixotic> th0r: You mean the window manager overwrites it?
[10:18] <mechtech> g'night fellas...needy sleepy
[10:18] <xrfang> hello, is there a good on-the-fly file encryption program that is linux-windows compatible? (i.e. files encrypted under windows can be decrypted on linux and vice vesa), except true crypt...?
[10:18] <th0r> allquixotic: yeah....there are some threads discussing it and workarounds
[10:18] <moncky> !details | jeeves
[10:18] <spartan07> I saw that on the ubuntu forums, but I cant figure out the options that woould do that same thing in kde "Do not show Desktop"- correct?
[10:19] <clarinet> Boohbah: What's about GNU Octave?
[10:19] <jeeves> moncky, I'm running 9.1, and a botched install of Windows has overwritten my MBR
[10:19] <th0r> allquixotic: I suspect I might be able to get it working in xfce if I turned of the desktop icons, wallpaper, etc
[10:19] <moncky> !grub | jeeves
[10:20] <Boohbah> clarinet: i don't know, try it out
[10:20] <moncky> jeeves: alternativley look at super grub disk
[10:20] <Boohbah> i'm trying to use usb-creator in jaunty to write karmic alpha 3 iso to my usb stick, but it won't boot. i created a clean w95 fat32 partition and set the bootable flag. why won't it boot?
[10:20] <jeeves> moncky, ok, you're really proving people's point that this channel is here ot make some people feel better about point someone to google.  Do you not think I've tried that already?
[10:21] <moncky> jeeves: have a look at the first link
[10:21] <moncky> jeeves: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:21] <d> hi
[10:21] <moymoy> should be this link
[10:21] <d> am a newbie to ubuntu
[10:21] <moymoy> jeeves: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[10:21] <d> hello everyone
[10:22] <moymoy> hey
[10:22] <jeeves> moymoy, thank you
[10:22] <Guest38065> hi
[10:22] <Guest38065> hello everyone
[10:22] <moymoy> hey Guest38065
[10:22] <moymoy> no problem jeeves
[10:22] <Guest38065> hey
[10:23] <moymoy> do you have a question?
[10:23] <Guest38065> can i ask anything regarding ubuntu
[10:23] <moymoy> yup
[10:24] <moymoy> just ask your question and if people know the answer, they'll answer
[10:24] <Guest38065> ok thanks
[10:24] <spartan07> th0r, this is what I have found, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=317203 have you found anything more recent?
[10:24] <srinivasa_> hi, I am finding acer crystal eye webcam  driver for ubuntu. Please give me link where i could find the  driver for the webcam
[10:24] <legend2440> clarinet: sagemath and maxima and octave are in synaptic already. so it would be easy to try them
[10:24] <Guest38065> have installed 9.04 64 bit and firefox 3.5.1 using ubuntuzilla
[10:24] <moymoy> spartan07: what are you trying to do?
[10:24] <Guest38065> but java plugin not getting detected
[10:24] <th0r> spartan07: I haven't looked in a while...wasn't that important to me and I got involved in other things
[10:25] <allquixotic> th0r: One of the hacks recommended to allow other apps to draw on the X11 root window is to kill nautilus. Heh. That might result in some feature loss though ;)
[10:25] <clarinet> legend2440: OK, thank you.
[10:25] <spartan07> get root-tail to run
[10:25] <th0r> allquixotic: well...nautilus is supposed to be a file manager....what it is doing hacking at the desktop is another story <smile>.
[10:25] <diddy> How would I have to alter the ~/.bash_profile in order to have man pages shown in Spanish rather than in English?
[10:26] <allquixotic> th0r: Nautilus is sadly becoming as "integrated" into the desktop (think tendrils) as Windows Explorer is to Win32
[10:26] <Boohbah> !locale > diddy
[10:26] <allquixotic> th0r: It's always running, even when you don't have an actual _file manager_ running.
[10:26] <moymoy> spartan07: and what's the problem?
[10:26] <th0r> allquixotic: hence my return to xfce. I will tell my computer what to do...not the other way around
[10:27] <spartan07> moymoy, doesn't work on newer ver of ubuntu correctly
[10:27] <diddy> Boohbah, Thx
[10:27] <spartan07> yea i second that. fluxbox here I come
[10:27] <moymoy> spartan07: it flashes?
[10:27] <allquixotic> spartan07: WindowMaker, Xfce, KDE, almost anything but Gnome seems to support proper root-tail functionality
[10:28] <linuxrock5> has anyone got a acx wireless running? if i enable it it freezes my laptop. the bug is known but nothing seems to change there.
[10:28] <moymoy> spartan07: allquixotic: not to mention Conky
[10:28] <moymoy> spartan07: but a quick fix in gconf editor should do the trick
[10:28] <moncky> spartan07: might be worth while posting your problem to the gnome mailing list and see if others have the issue, may be a gnome issue rather than ubuntu
[10:29] <th0r> spartan07: moymoy is right...one of the threads said something about conky doing the same job
[10:29] <spartan07> I tried to fgind a conky script that I saw on a post for a workaround, but it did not work.
[10:29] <spartan07> it did not even flash for me like it did for the guy that posted
[10:29] <allquixotic> moymoy: Do you know the specific gconf key to stop nautilus from painting over the X11 root window? Or are you just speculating that one "probably exists"?
[10:29] <moymoy> spartan07: the conky workaround is either disable nautilus from drawing to the desktop or making conky have its own window
[10:29] <moymoy> allquixotic: spartan07: hold on, let me find it
[10:31] <allquixotic> Hm! Maybe: /apps/nautilus/preferences/show_desktop
[10:31] <spartan07> I know tail does the same thing but having all those terminal windows sucks. Im thinking maybe more windows in tilda would do almost the same thing
[10:31] <moymoy> allquixotic: spartan07: go to gconf-editor.. then browse to apps -> nautilus -> preferences -- and in there, you should see a key in there with the name "show_desktop" .. uncheck that
[10:32] <allquixotic> moymoy: Yep, found it :)
[10:32] <allquixotic> moymoy: Just tried root-tail -f /var/log/messages and it indeed works with that unchecked
[10:32] <moymoy> =p
[10:32] <tbaxter> [On my dual boot] Can someone help me with why files and folders I create on a vfat partition in linux can't be viewed when I boot into vista?
[10:32] <Guest38065> have any one heard of root-portal
[10:32] <spartan07> did you lose your icons from the desktop?
[10:32] <allquixotic> yep
[10:32] <allquixotic> that's intended
[10:32] <Guest38065> http://root-portal.sourceforge.net/
[10:32] <moymoy> allquixotic: spartan07: one drawback is that you now have no icons on your desktop
[10:32] <allquixotic> only one app can draw to the root window at a time
[10:33] <allquixotic> it overwrites Nautilus' drawing of the icons
[10:33] <moymoy> that's a serious flaw
[10:33] <moymoy> =[
[10:33] <allquixotic> it's not really a flaw so much as the computer doing exactly what you tell it to :P to have robust functionality you'd need to integrate the functionality you want into Nautilus
[10:33] <legend2440> i am having a problem with kodak dx3500 digital camera with jaunty and gnome . it is usb interface but the camera uses PTP(picture transfer prorocol). i have tried  gphoto2, gtkam and digikam but the camera is not detected. i've tried  lsusb and dmesg but still no sign the camera is detected.however, my Sandisk usb mp3 player is detected so i know the usb is working.any ideas or anyone familiar with this camera?
[10:33] <Guest38065> try root-portal with gnome instead of root-tail
[10:33] <ikonia> legend2440: the camera is not supported ?
[10:34] <ebadudu> hi All
[10:34] <spartan07> I tried apt-get and did not find root-portal
[10:34] <Guest38065> http://root-portal.sourceforge.net/
[10:34] <moncky> legend2440: is the camera being presented as a mass storage device as oposed to a caera?
[10:34] <moymoy> root-tail doesn't use a window (i'm assuming) and that's what spartan07 wants (also assuming)
[10:34] <Guest38065> u'll get it here
[10:34] <legend2440> ikonia: according to gtkam and gphoto2 it is supported
[10:34] <Guest38065> http://root-portal.sourceforge.net/
[10:34] <stillboy> @legend2440 is it the same port? are you getting any events in /var/log/messages or syslog?
[10:34] <th0r> Guest38065: I have been trying to remember that name for three days now...thanks
[10:35] <allquixotic> moymoy: Right, the whole point of root-tail is that it draws the output of the `tail` command to the X11 root window, which is the desktop. :)
[10:35] <Guest38065> ohh yeah
[10:35] <awesomeguy> Could someone please tell me fast and powerful Filemanager for ubuntu 9.04
[10:35] <legend2440> stillboy: let me check that
[10:35] <moymoy> but how is gnome able to draw the wallpaper? if they could do that, they could at least give the icons the same functionality
[10:36] <th0r> awesomeguy: thunar
[10:36] <allquixotic> moymoy: The concept of X11 foreground and background :)
[10:36] <awesomeguy> thunar is it fast ?
[10:36] <moymoy> thunar is a speed demon
[10:36] <th0r> awesomeguy: that's what you asked for, right?
[10:36] <legend2440> stillboy: so if i plug the camera in should i see a change in /var/log/messages file right away or would i have to reboot?
[10:36] <srinivasa_> hi where do I get the drivers for webcam
[10:37] <awesomeguy> yes , i have pcfilemanager installed but its not good
[10:37] <tbaxter> [One and only one repost] [On my dual boot] Can someone help me with why files and folders I create on a vfat partition in linux can't be viewed when I boot into vista?
[10:37] <spartan07> that would be great if they did something about that. Do any of you use root-tail? maybe its not a big deal in the big picture?
[10:37] <awesomeguy> Ok i m installing Thunar
[10:37] <moymoy> nautilus is average speed .. but it has a whole lot of things integrated so it makes it hard to give up
[10:37] <allquixotic> tbaxter: Works for me -- are you running `sync` or properly unmounting the device before you reboot?
[10:38] <allquixotic> spartan07: I just have about 8 shells open at any given time ;) gnome-terminal has tabs, so my window manager's list of windows isn't overwhelmed by a single terminal window..
[10:38] <legend2440> moncky: the camera is not detected at all
[10:38] <moymoy> also, have you seen the app Terminator on launchpad?
[10:39] <th0r> allquixotic: spartan07 this sounds like it might work if you can get it to compile....http://web.purplefrog.com/~thoth/xroottext.html
[10:39] <spartan07> yea, but sometimes I close that terminal window forgetting the tabs and need to set it up all over again
[10:39] <tbaxter> neither (unless it happens on an out-of-the-box install). I'd never considered that it would be something that was necessary.
[10:39] <spartan07> thats my bad habit :(
[10:39] <srinivasa_> hi, I new to ubuntu could any please help me in getting the webcam drivers
[10:40] <juvic> i have a question
[10:40] <tbaxter> allquixotic: neither (unless it happens on an out-of-the-box install). I'd never considered that it would be something that was necessary. (sorry, forgot to put your name in it)
[10:40] <allquixotic> spartan07: Setting up your tabs in a script should be possible. Maybe not even a script; gnome-terminal has profiles as a feature
[10:40] <juvic> for wine 1.1.26
[10:40] <baheer> hello all
[10:40] <stillboy> legend2440 you should see something in messages immediatly
[10:40] <allquixotic> !meta | juvic
[10:40] <baheer> I can't play any .flv files with VLC Player
[10:40] <spartan07> allquixotic, I have not even thought about that feature
[10:41] <baheer> the error says the coded problem
[10:41] <legend2440> stillboy: ok thanks . i'll plug it in and see
[10:41] <spartan07> im gonna try that
[10:41] <juvic> how do i install in wine 1.1.26  to work the adobe flash cs4
[10:41] <juvic> installer
[10:41] <diddy> I just read that I can allow users to shut down the system by adding them to the /etc/shutdown.allow file. But I don't have such a file. Do I need to create it?
[10:41] <allquixotic> tbaxter: Well, usually on a "safe" reboot, the system should automatically unmount drives and perform a full sync, but with removable media I always unmount it in Nautilus just to be sure
[10:42] <tbaxter> allquixotic: it's not removable. it's just a partition on the internal dirve of my lapto.
[10:42] <allquixotic> tbaxter: To dig deeper, though, you might consider using ntfs as a more viable means of file transfer between Ubuntu and Windows. ntfs-3g is extremely stable and feature-complete nowadays.
[10:42] <allquixotic> tbaxter: If you have a vfat partition and you are intending to use that partition only as a means of file sharing between your two dual boot OSes, I would argue that using ntfs as the partition format and mounting it with ntfs-3g on Ubuntu would be wiser.
[10:43] <allquixotic> tbaxter: Not to mention ntfs is a journaling filesystem - vfat has many design flaws
[10:43] <allquixotic> ntfs does too, but fewer ;)
[10:44] <indrajaya> iii
[10:45] <allquixotic> tbaxter: I have a question you may be able to answer if you want to stick with vfat, though. If you write some files to vfat on Ubuntu, reboot into Vista, don't see them, then reboot back to Ubuntu -- are the files still there?
[10:46] <tbaxter> allquixotic: usually, yes. though I had one instance of them disappearing.
[10:47] <bernardlychan> hey guys. starting from today, ubuntu would turn on, log in, and then after a few minutes, everything would freeze except for the mouse. does anyone have any suggestions?
[10:47] <allquixotic> tbaxter: Heh, that's even worse, then. "No" or "Yes" would have been more straightforward, but "usually" is even stranger :)
[10:48] <buzzomatic_> Hi, was wondering if anyone could tell me what driver I should use to get the best performance out of my ATI Radeon HD 4800
[10:48] <spartan07> thank you for the help. I learned a few new things and about other tools to do the same job.
[10:48] <tbaxter> allquixotic: that was kind of my issue. it's hard to use google-foo on a usually
[10:48] <buzzomatic_> Or perhaps point me at some information on tweaking the fglrx driver for performance, because it seems to be quite slow by default
[10:48] <allquixotic> tbaxter: It sounds like Ubuntu's concept of vfat is different from Vista's. If you are actually writing the files and they (usually) persist across Ubuntu sessions, but don't show up in Vista, it may be that somehow Vista is mounting it as a different type of vfat than Ubuntu. c.f. the various vfat "sizes" and options
[10:49] <bernardlychan> hey guys. starting from today, ubuntu would turn on, log in, and then after a few minutes, everything would freeze except for the mouse. does anyone have any suggestions?
[10:49] <jaumecosta> how can i reset on gnome to the default keyboard settings
[10:49] <jaumecosta> ?
[10:50] <tbaxter> allquixotic: thanks. I'll have a good look at it tomorrow. (and possibly just hang the vfat idea if ntfs support has improved.)
[10:50] <grawity> bernardlychan: Ctrl-Alt-F1, and take a look at 'top', 'tail /var/log/syslog', 'tail /var/log/Xorg.0.log'
[10:50] <wal3> hello. since my update to jaunty gnome become pretty slow. whats the reason?
[10:50] <allquixotic> tbaxter: At a minimum, I would suggest backing up _all_ the data you have on that partition as soon as possible. Then you might try reformatting it using mkfs.vfat and look at the options. But yes, ntfs support has improved drastically and I would recommend ntfs-3g due to the journaling options
[10:50] <bernardlychan> kk grawity
[10:51] <tbaxter> allquixotic: cheers. you've helped my sanity considerably.
[10:51] <allquixotic> tbaxter: Personally, I just mount my Windows NTFS drives directly into Ubuntu using ntfs-3g. I have never had a corrupted 'doze filesystem because of ntfs-3g, and I used much more experimental versions of ntfs-3g years ago
[10:52] <allquixotic> tbaxter: For absolute safety of your windows OS though, you might want to preserve your idea of an intermediary partition like you have now, and never mount your Windows OS system volume directly.
[10:52] <allquixotic> tbaxter: Personally I keep all my music in my Windows user's home directory and symlink it into ~/Music on Ubuntu. Heh. Works perfectly.
[10:52] <buzzomatic_> What version of fglrx comes with 9.04?
[10:53] <Stralytic> my hardy system keeps telling me this whenever i install packages... Can't exec "locale": No such file or directory at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/Encoding.pm line 16.   ... there is no /usr/bin/locale ... which package should i be in? i searched on packages.ubuntu.com and it says there is no such file in any packages... my karmic system says that file is in libc6 but hardy libc6 doesn't contain it
[10:54] <Set_Killer> thank you, bazhang just made the persistent liveusb
[10:55] <Set_Killer> going to reboot to see does it works
[10:55] <allquixotic> buzzomatic_: aptitude show xorg-driver-fglrx
[10:55] <allquixotic> buzzomatic_: The output of that command should have the version info
[10:56] <allquixotic> Stralytic: Have you been mixing in packages from more recent versions of Ubuntu into your Hardy install?
[10:56] <Kaosevil> hi
[10:56] <hydra> does anyone got a tip on a good process overview utility 4 ubuntu?
[10:56] <Kaosevil> where i can find a vmware image of ubuntu ?
[10:57] <buzzomatic_> allquixotic: 2:8.600-0ubuntu2 - does that mean it's 'Catalyst 8.6'?
[10:57] <allquixotic> hydra: The default GNOME desktop install has System Monitor in System -> Administration -> System Monitor
[10:57] <Stralytic> allquixotic: how did you guess? i installed jaunty libc6, lvm, mdadm and kernel to access some data on a ext4 fs, then i downgraded them all back to hardy
[10:57] <allquixotic> buzzomatic_: Correct, the initial 2: is a package-specific version number. The stuff after the 8.600 indicates that it's the second Ubuntu build of the same Catalyst version
[10:58] <buzzomatic_> allquixotic: right, makes sense - is it possible to upgrade to a recent version of the driver?
[10:58] <allquixotic> Stralytic: Ouch, sounds like Perl / dpkg / libc are badly broken from the upgrade/downgrade process. I doubt anyone ever tested _downgrading_ from Jaunty to Hardy. That's a pretty much unsupported path.
[10:58] <bernardlychan> hey every1. starting from 2day, my ubuntu froze a few minutes after i logged in. i restarted and the same thing happened. i cannot open any programs, i can only move the mouse. does anyone have any suggestions?
[10:58] <allquixotic> buzzomatic_: Yep, there are tutorials on the wiki for compiling the latest Catalyst from source
[10:59] <buzzomatic_> allquixotic: right, I'll give that a shot, thanks
[10:59] <allquixotic> buzzomatic_:  I don't know what keyword to hit ubottu with to get him to produce the link you need, but I'm sure it's in there somewhere
[10:59] <marvelousbob> Hi, I have a usb-serial adapter but right now I can't communicate over the ports it provides
[10:59] <Stralytic> allquixotic: where does /usr/bin/locale come from on a hardy system?
[10:59] <marvelousbob> The output of dmesg | grep usb : http://pastebin.com/m7b3060e4
[11:00] <allquixotic> Stralytic: I haven't used Hardy in ages, so I don't know -- I guess it was introduced into the system after Hardy. It does exist on Jaunty, and it comes from the libc6 package.
[11:00] <marvelousbob> The output of lsusb -v : http://pastebin.com/m16c7e4aa
[11:00] <marvelousbob> The serial interfaces appear as /dev/ttyACM0 and /dev/ttyACM1
[11:00] <allquixotic> Stralytic: It sounds like the `debconf` program on your system was pulled in from Jaunty when you did the upgrading/downgrading, so now it's looking to use the locale program which exists in Jaunty's libc6, but you downgraded - doh!
[11:01] <allquixotic> Stralytic: debconf is a perl script, so it makes perfect sense that the error you're getting is related to perl. Unfortunately debconf is very central to the package management system; I honestly don't know whether you will be able to convince dpkg to downgrade its own packages back to a sane state with errors in debconf
[11:01] <marvelousbob> The device attatched to either of those ports recieves nothing
[11:02] <edico> hi
[11:02] <allquixotic> Stralytic: You might be able to re-upgrade libc6 to Jaunty's version and then downgrade _everything_ in one transaction, making sure not to leave anything out, including debconf
[11:02] <mokmeister> 9.04 or 8.04?
[11:03] <Stralytic> allquixotic: everything is currently hardy, i have no jaunty packages installed anymore, and the downgrade went smoothly in one hit
[11:03] <Saruji__> is it possible to get an error log somewhere?
[11:03] <allquixotic> Stralytic: aptitude show debconf
[11:03] <Stralytic> allquixotic: the system is completely usable, just gives an annoying message when i install things
[11:03] <lstarnes> mokmeister: 9.04 is newer but 8.04 is an LTS release
[11:03] <edico> what is the program to see my hardware? I just bought a new system and I have troubles with the graphic mode? I can't enter graphical mode.
[11:03] <edico> I have an intel media accelerator x4500
[11:03] <Saruji__> my computer just shut off my monitors?
[11:04] <allquixotic> edico: What particular info do you need about your hardware?
[11:04] <mokmeister> lstarnes: thx, I know, I'm just thinking aloud.
[11:04] <Stralytic> allquixotic: i've apt-get --reinstall install debconf/hardy
[11:04] <mokmeister> Any opinion on which ones best?
[11:04] <edico> allquixotic: I need to see my video card type
[11:04] <mokmeister> a lot depends on what you need it for I suppose....
[11:04] <allquixotic> edico: You just started that you have an Intel X4500...
[11:04] <marvelousbob> I get the message from bash hnurseries@pos1:~$ echo "foo" > /dev/ttyACM0
[11:04] <marvelousbob> bash: /dev/ttyACM0: Input/output error
[11:04] <allquixotic> stated*
[11:05] <bernardlychan> anyone know how to fix a frozen ubuntu? nothing will work except moving the mouse. this happened 1minute after login
[11:05] <Saruji__> let my start again, hey guys hows it going?....I have a question, windows has something called "logs" which will tell you the errors that accoured and its history, so when your computer crashes you can look in there to see what failed
[11:05] <Saruji__> anything like this in linux?
[11:05] <allquixotic> edico: `lspci` should provide the info you need from a console, but you already know what kind of video card you have, so I'm not sure what you are really trying to accomplish.
[11:06] <allquixotic> Saruji__: There are a bunch of logs in Linux, they are all contained within /var/log  and usually each program has its own log file or directory
[11:06] <edico> allquixotic: it shows me just that VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[11:06] <edico> 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[11:06] <fn][> Hey, I have a simple 20 line perl script that I want to put into an rpm. no source or anything. how would I do this?
[11:06] <allquixotic> Saruji__: The central logs for the whole system would be in /var/log/messages or /var/log/dmesg but if you had a kernel hard-lock, it's possible that the kernel wasn't able to write to the log file after it crashed
[11:07] <Saruji__> ok thank you allquixotic another question, which log should I look at if my monitors just shut off, but I can hear audio playing?
[11:07] <Saruji__> thinking it has to do with graphics card
[11:07] <allquixotic> Saruji__: are you able to bring the monitors back or do you have to perform a reboot to get display back?
[11:08] <Saruji__> I had to perform a reboot
[11:08] <furythor> hello, where I can define custom directory for my apache web server document root ?
[11:08] <allquixotic> Saruji__: Default settings in Ubuntu will automatically turn off monitors after inactivity
[11:08] <ready> sb
[11:08] <clawtooph> httpd.conf
[11:08] <allquixotic> furythor: /etc/apache/apache2.conf should have a directive for that
[11:08] <Stralytic> allquixotic: hmmm it seems to be in belocs-locales-bin
[11:08] <Saruji__> allquixotic: i moved mouse pressed keyboard keys, tried commands
[11:08] <allquixotic> edico: What are you trying to accomplish? Are you trying to get to a graphical desktop?
[11:08] <christiannnn> i have a error in grub says "Error 17" somebody knows how to fix it ?
[11:09] <clawtooph> oh yeah i forget ubuntu forces apache2... /etc/apache2
[11:09] <allquixotic> Saruji__: OK, the most relevant logs I can think of would be /var/log/Xorg.0.log and /var/log/dmesg
[11:09] <edico> allquixotic: I installed ubuntu but I can't enter graphical mod, it tries to enter but fails
[11:09] <furythor> yeah, I thought that too, but I just seem not to be able to find that directive from that file
[11:09] <allquixotic> edico: What version of Ubuntu?
[11:09] <edico> allquixotic: 904
[11:10] <Stralytic> allquixotic: reinstalling that pkg fixed it
[11:10] <Peddy> When I log my headless server via ssh and I start an http download with wget, the download works fine. However, when I close the ssh connection, the download is stopped. Is there a way to get around this?
[11:10] <Saruji_> allquixotic: sorry to bug you, quick question, i brought it back and up and I have a notification icon in my toolbar, double clicking it has caused me to loose all of desktop, minus this chat window?
[11:10] <clawtooph> furythor, are you sure you don't have /etc/apache2/httpd.conf? i do
[11:10] <Peddy> christiannnn, could you describe your operating system and hard drive configuration? ie, what you have installed, where.
[11:10] <allquixotic> furythor: /etc/apache2/sites-available/default has the DocumentRoot directive
[11:10] <furythor> ok, thanks
[11:11] <allquixotic> Stralytic: Cool
[11:11] <allquixotic> edico: Hmm, pastebin the output from /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[11:11] <allquixotic> Saruji_: Sounds like gnome-session crashed
[11:11] <christiannnn> i have 2 partition in /dev/sda1 its Win Xp and the /dev/sda2 whas ubuntu but i format /dev/sda2 to NTFS system when i restart the system says "error 17"
[11:11] <allquixotic> Saruji_: What did the notification say?
[11:11] <furythor> I found what I was looking for, thanks a bunch
[11:12] <Saruji__> allquixotic: what in the world is going on?  Things are going crazy here, hmm will check logs, thank you allquixotic i might come and ask again, thank you for your help....yea gnome-session keeps crashing for some reason
[11:12] <allquixotic> Saruji__: Definitely check /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[11:12] <Saruji__> allquixotic: nothing, gnome crashes when I click it
[11:13] <allquixotic> Saruji__: I haven't seen that one before. I assume the window manager also crashed so your windows don't have minimize/maximize/close on them?
[11:14] <Peddy> christiannnn, you formatted the drive that Ubuntu was installed on?
[11:14] <edico> allquixotic: http://pastebin.com/m78d5f5fc
[11:14] <christiannnn> yes
[11:14] <christiannnn> Peddy,  yes
[11:14] <Peddy> christiannnn, so you were trying to remove Ubuntu, correct?
[11:14] <Saruji__> allquixotic: no, they do, and it does seem like nataulas crashed but its acting very strange....maybe hardware failure? (video card)
[11:14] <grawity> christiannnn: Do you have a Windows XP CD?
[11:14] <christiannnn> yes but when i restart computer i can enter to Windows bcuz the grub says Error 17
[11:15] <allquixotic> edico: Is this a clean installation of Ubuntu 9.04?
[11:15] <Saruji__> allquixotic: i have compiz running
[11:15] <christiannnn> yes i have it
[11:15] <edico> allquixotic: yes
[11:15] <Peddy> christiannnn, do you have a Windows XP recovery CD?
[11:15] <grawity> christiannnn: Okay, boot from the XP CD, choose "Recovery Console", and type these commands 'fixboot' and 'fixmbr'
[11:15] <allquixotic> Saruji__: It may be graphics driver related, if stuff is dying with compiz running. Try running without compositing.
[11:15] <Saruji__> allquixotic: what the diff between Xorg.1.log and 0?
[11:15] <allquixotic> Saruji__: Xorg.1.log is your previous session; the one before the last one
[11:15] <Saruji__> allquixotic: ok thx
[11:16] <Peddy> christiannnn, if that doesn't work or your XP cd is missing, you could burn Super Grub Disk from another machine, which has options to restore Windows' bootloader.
[11:16] <albano> christiann: or bot from ubuntu live cd and do only a groob install again
[11:16] <allquixotic> Saruji__: What video card are you using?
[11:16] <wal3> hello. since my update to jaunty gnome become pretty slow. whats the reason?
[11:16] <Saruji__> allquixotic: nvidia 8800 gt
[11:16] <allquixotic> Saruji__: Are you using the binary drivers?
[11:16] <christiannnn> okay iam in live cd of ubuntu i will try here if dont works i will use Win XP CD
[11:17] <Saruji__> allquixotic: not sure, nvidia drivers
[11:17] <Saruji__> allquixotic: proprietary ones
[11:17] <allquixotic> Saruji__: Try updating to the latest release from Nvidia's website -- if you are using Jaunty's shipped binary drivers, those are a bit old and they have a known bug with memory manager corruption when you use compositing
[11:17] <Tecna> I'm interested in people's opinion on this...  Of Debian and Ubuntu, which is better, and why?
[11:17] <allquixotic> Saruji__: yes, by "binary drivers" I meant Nvidia's proprietary ones.
[11:17] <Schildbuerger> i can only second the winxp  'fixboot' and 'fixmbr' hint/method
[11:17] <christiannnn> okey thanks:)
[11:17] <Saruji__> allquixotic: ok thx I will, do you know if nvidia has a .deb for their drivers or will I have to run like an .sh or something?
[11:17] <allquixotic> Tecna: This is a tech support channel, that's offtopic
[11:18] <Saruji__> allquixotic: (afraid of screwing it up)
[11:18] <Peddy> Sargun, what driver version are you using?
[11:18] <allquixotic> Saruji__: You'll have to install `build-essential' package, go to a minimal environment without X (such as booting Ubuntu in recovery mode and select the root shell option) and launch Nvidia's .sh installer
[11:19] <allquixotic> Saruji__: There may be a PPA out there that keeps up to date Nvidia drivers with kernel modules synchronized to released kernels or something, but I just download the .sh manually myself
[11:19] <Saruji__> allquixotic: ok thx.....how do I tell (in xorg.0.log) which ones are the errors?
[11:19] <Tecna> allquixotic: I think my question borders closely enough on tech support, because it's to help me decide whether or not to switch back to Ubuntu... I'm having trouble with Debian and their support channel is useless.
[11:20] <allquixotic> Saruji__: If the driver writes are using proper error log facilities, then any true error should be preceded with (EE); however, a (WW) is usually a concern too
[11:20] <albano> saruji: i had the same isue and did the .sh install again from rootshell
[11:20] <Saruji__> allquixotic: ahh ok then looks like I've got some errors.....shoot
[11:20] <Saruji__> allquixotic: ahh stupid me, I see the error codes at the top
[11:20] <edico> allquixotic: this is the log from the when I run ubuntu from the cd http://pastebin.com/m2ab8da3a , but here it gives me an option to try with low graphic mode in other shell than alt-ctrl-7
[11:20] <allquixotic> Tecna: Comparing distributions without any particular criteria is not a technical support question; that's a matter of subjective opinion and very likely to start disagreements. Hence it is off topic here. If you have a particular feature to inquire about, that'd be more on-topic
[11:21] <mikebeecham> hi there, I dont suppose anyone might be able to take some time to walk me through grabbing and setting up conky?
[11:21] <mikebeecham> I cant seem to get my head round it
[11:21] <allquixotic> Saruji__: Pastebin your entire Xorg.0.log if you can... you may have to drop to a text VT and restart gnome-session
[11:21] <Saruji__> allquixotic: ok i will one sec
[11:22] <legend2440> mikebeecham: conky is in synaptic
[11:23] <Saruji__> allquixotic: here it is, thank you for looking at this it is greatly appreciated: http://pastebin.com/m428dd26c
[11:23] <mikebeecham> legend2440: hi mate...yeah, I've downloaded and installed it...I have it running...but I dont really understand it or understand where / how to edit it to suit my needs
[11:24] <aidoneous> I would like to ask a question, if you have any idea why my ubuntu wouldnt start at all. It is getting stuck in the loading screen
[11:24] <allquixotic> Saruji__: That output looks entirely normal; those "errors" are non-fatal and I get them too, but I don't have any problems
[11:25] <Bazzup> DCC SEND "startkeylogger" 0 0 0
[11:25] <Saruji__> allquixotic: hmmm anywhere else to look for errors that might be causing this?....or maybe just try to reinstall nvidia drivers?
[11:25] <Olof2> Hi! Is there any easy way to find out on wich partition windows lays on?(yes , I just installed ubuntu)
[11:25] <albano> aidoenous: do a cd chek maybe your cd is demaged
[11:25] <allquixotic> Saruji__: As mentioned, the version of Nvidia drivers in Jaunty are known to have a flaw with compositing that leads to instability for some people, including myself... they can't upgrade them due to distribution version policies, but you can upgrade them yourself
[11:26] <allquixotic> Saruji__: The empty information balloon that crashed gnome-session sounds like an unrelated crash, though
[11:26] <aidoneous> albano: i am chatting through the live CD now, the problem is on the linux installed in my HDD
[11:26] <aidoneous> :<
[11:27] <Saruji__> allquixotic: alright, you've been a great help, I got scared there for a sec....hmm well all I think I can do is try and reinstall the drivers and see if that will hlep.....any chance that the notification is just there to tell me that I've crashed?
[11:27] <allquixotic> aidoneous: There are many different reasons why you might have that problem. Does the progress bar just hang before it's done or what?
[11:27] <aidoneous> it doesnt start at all
[11:28] <allquixotic> aidoneous: How far do you get in the boot process, then?
[11:28] <antonio_> hi
[11:28] <allquixotic> Saruji__: I honestly don't know. I haven't seen that notification before
[11:28] <kindofabuzz> aidoneous, hit ctrl+f1 during boot to se where it halts
[11:28] <antonio_> would someone help me with ati driver o ubuntu 8.10^
[11:28] <Saruji__> allquixotic: ok thanks again
[11:28] <aidoneous> kindofabuzz:  thanks, all i remember is that yesterday I installed the ATI drivers
[11:29] <aidoneous> I was wondering if it is because of that
[11:29] <kindofabuzz> aidoneous, you could also mount the drive and view the boot logs
[11:29] <om26er> bazhang: hey is there a way to update my initramfs from live cd. my os is not booting and I know the exact problem
[11:29] <antonio_> I have an ati radeon 9200SE
[11:29] <antonio_> at present it is working but I have OpenGL vendor string: Tungsten Graphics, Inc.
[11:30] <aidoneous> I will try what you told me kindofabuzz, thanks for the tip
[11:30] <aidoneous> cya guys
[11:30] <kindofabuzz> gl
[11:30] <crash89> ù
[11:30] <antonio_> while it should be ati...,
[11:30] <rahman> does ssh-keygen create different public key when I create a new key with same private key on a different system?
[11:31] <allquixotic> antonio_: Some drivers are notorious for having different server and client vendor strings, is the client vendor string also Tungsten?
[11:32] <legend2440> mikebeecham: yes conky can be difficult to configure. i tried it a long time ago but havent used it in a while. i would ask in channel #conky
[11:32] <antonio_> maybe not, I'm following what reoprted in this guide http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Hardware/Video/Ati/Radeon and it should be ati
[11:32] <om26er> ikonia: is there a way to update my initramfs from live cd. my ubuntu is not booting and I know the problem
[11:33] <albano> is there any ather way haow to modify the xserver,xorg than "VI" ?
[11:33] <allquixotic> albano: Any text editor is capable of modifying /etc/X11/xorg.conf if that's what you are referring to.
[11:33] <richardcavell> albano: you mean text editors?
[11:33] <mataks> is there a program in linux that will restore system every time you boot.. like deep freeze in windows
[11:33] <tarantulaINET> hey, can anyone help me set up a bridge network connection, to bridge my wired and wireless connections
[11:33] <allquixotic> albano: nano is a more user friendly text editor (at least in my opinion)
[11:34] <richardcavell> albano: or use gedit, which is a graphical one that works in GNOME
[11:34] <albano> richardcavell: were can i find gedit?
[11:34] <masquerade> any way i can completely remove panels in gnome?
[11:35] <allquixotic> antonio_: You probably didn't follow the instructions quite right then -- they look correct, but I had to use Google Translator to read them :)
[11:35] <richardcavell> albano: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:35] <allquixotic> antonio_: Are you trying to use fglrx (the proprietary Catalyst driver) or the open source ati driver?
[11:36] <albano> richardcavell: thnx
[11:36] <om26er> !karmic
[11:36] <aidoneous> The progress bar doesnt load but now I entered in Recovery Mode can someone help me to find the problem? I am a total noob
[11:36] <veggteppe_> Anyone know why i can't get my HDMI thingy to work? can it be the driver?
[11:36] <antonio_> I'm trying the open source ati driver
[11:36] <allquixotic> masquerade: right-click and delete each panel?
[11:36] <antonio_> excuse me for the link, I forget about language
[11:36] <om26er> how to add modules to initramfs from live cd
[11:37] <minimec> antonio_: What version of Ubuntu are you on? With Jaunty your card is configured in the best way possible.
[11:37] <allquixotic> antonio_: have you tried any 3d applications to see if they work?
[11:38] <richardcavell> Can I ask everybody - is it people's general experience that nvidia has the best linux driver support?
[11:38] <allquixotic> antonio_: The open source ati drivers are based on the DRM/DRI/Xorg/Mesa stack which does have Tungsten as the vendor, at least for some drivers
[11:38] <aidoneous> The progress bar doesnt load but now I entered in Recovery Mode can someone help me to find the problem? I am a total noob
[11:39] <Saruji> hey guys, question, how do I exit the X server?  I did the ctrl-alt-backspace but it only brought to the log in part
[11:39] <richardcavell> Saruji: you mean you want to go to a command line?
[11:39] <akonkwa> Hey, I'm using Ubuntu 9.04 under PArallels on a macbook pro. I was wondering how I could configure it to take up the whole 1440x900 of my screen and not  only 1024x768
[11:39] <antonio_> it works, just guessing if I can have more
[11:39] <om26er> any tell me how to add modules in initramfs manually
[11:39] <allquixotic> richardcavell: A subjective question, which depends on what you mean by "best". I think the Intel drivers are the "best" on the grounds that they are the most advanced open source drivers. But in terms of raw features with license blindness, Nvidia does tend to be the most featureful, considering they have stable OpenGL 3.1 support and experimental OpenGL 3.2 support in their binary drivers..
[11:39] <Saruji> richardcavell: yes I want to install nvidia drivers
[11:39] <richardcavell> Saruji: you can do that without going to a command line
[11:39] <albano> aidoenous: try xfix
[11:39] <richardcavell> Saruji: but for the record sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[11:39] <om26er> !initramfs
[11:40] <allquixotic> Saruji: When you did ctrl-alt-backspace, you actually killed the X server, but gdm automatically detected that X died and restarted it
[11:40] <ortsvorsteher> !insmod
[11:40] <allquixotic> Saruji: To get rid of X entirely you need to do what richardcavell just said and stop gdm :-)
[11:40] <minimec> antonio_: You could open a console and use glxgears and glxinfo for further infos about 3d power...
[11:40] <allquixotic> akonkwa: Sounds like a Parallels support question to me
[11:40] <veggteppe_> Gonna dual bot ubuntu and windows, but when i try installing vista, i get "Not enaugh space free", but i got 200 GB free, any ideas?
[11:41] <richardcavell> allquixotic: I'm using intel drivers.  Until recently they were *bad*
[11:41] <Saruji> richardcavell: ok thank you, do you recommend not being in the terminal?  allquixotic cool makes sense, so shut down or best just stay on desktop and run the sh command here?
[11:41] <richardcavell> they're still buggy
[11:41] <allquixotic> antonio_: If you need more featureful OpenGL then try the proprietary drivers if you're ok with using non-free software
[11:41] <richardcavell> Saruji: install your drivers without doing anything special
[11:41] <ortsvorsteher> veggteppe_: at first you have to install windows. after that you can install linux
[11:41] <legend2440> !dontzap | saruji ctrl+alt+backspace is disabled in jaunty
[11:41] <richardcavell> Saruji: just install them from within a Terminal or however youlike
[11:41] <akonkwa> allquixotic,  Maybe... but aren't there lines i can  add to xorg.conf so it allows me to select 1400x900 resolution?
[11:41] <allquixotic> Saruji: The nvidia drivers prohibit you from installing them when X is running, so you will need to get rid of gdm to run them. You can override it with an option but I don't recommend it
[11:41] <veggteppe_> But, when i try to install windows, i get  a blue screen :P, no idea what's wrong:S
[11:42] <allquixotic> richardcavell: Yes, I've followed the Intel drivers' development very carefully, but they are still the best open source drivers, even though they have big performance problems
[11:42] <Saruji> richardcavell: good advice thx allquixotic right thats the problem i am running into
[11:42] <ortsvorsteher> this here is ubuntu support veggteppe_ , for windows try #windows
[11:42] <om26er> how to install grub2
[11:42] <ICM> bah  @ default xchat-ubuntu settings
[11:42] <richardcavell> allquixotic: aren't you just criticizing nvidia for not having open source drivers?
[11:42] <veggteppe_> Well, as i said, the issue is getting a blue screen after having ubuntu, meaning that there is a ubuntu issue ortsvorsteher.
[11:42] <antonio_> glxgears shows 3464 frames in 5.0 seconds = 692.292 FPS don't know if it is what expected by a card agp 8x with 128MB
[11:42] <turneralex> now how does a noob partition a drive for raid (0xfd)
[11:43] <richardcavell> allquixotic: it doesn't bother me that much that nvidia is closed source
[11:43] <richardcavell> They need to protect their IP
[11:43] <ortsvorsteher> try to clean up your disc, install windows first, after that ubuntu. veggteppe_ good luck ! :)
[11:43] <allquixotic> richardcavell: It's a matter of philosophy
[11:43] <veggteppe_> Okay, thank you ortsvorsteher :).
[11:43] <allquixotic> richardcavell: And a bit off topic for this channel
[11:43] <richardcavell> allquixotic: I've been trying to play Half-Life under Ubuntu/wine and under Jaunty it's just too buggy
[11:44] <richardcavell> allquixotic: but I just played the game all the way through this week with Karmic
[11:44] <albano> om26er:from live cd
[11:44] <allquixotic> antonio_: That sounds about right
[11:44] <richardcavell> allquixotic: anyone with Intel GMA950 hardware should just go with Karmic all the way
[11:44] <allquixotic> antonio_: (haha, I really have no clue)
[11:44] <allquixotic> antonio_: Try a 3d app like TuxRacer
[11:44] <minimec> antonio_: Well... The 9200 is a rather old baby, but I guess compiz should do. It will be interesting to see, if you are able to watch a movie in fullscreen mode with compiz activated.
[11:45] <richardcavell> allquixotic: I mean, the 2.8.0 drivers are only just stable.
[11:45] <allquixotic> richardcavell: I have a 965GM and it still runs pretty poorly on Karmic -- I can't play Savage 2 on it, which makes it pretty much worthless to me
[11:45] <richardcavell> allquixotic: okay
[11:45] <richardcavell> allquixotic: I'm still getting bugs, mind.  But at least now it's useable
[11:45] <lock_man> hey do u ppl talk?
[11:45] <allquixotic> richardcavell: If you're interested in following development of the open source Intel drivers, #intel-gfx is where the Intel engineers lurk
[11:45] <ortsvorsteher> !u | lock_man
[11:46] <lock_man> AYYYY??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
[11:46] <richardcavell> allquixotic: I might be buying a few new computers for development and I'm thinking of making it all nvidia hardware
[11:46] <mataks> help my printer is not working.. i can't print.. why is that
[11:46] <antonio_> ok, will tray, thx a lot, one more thing, I did configurate my usb modem and spent 2 days, if I upgrade to Jaunty, do I need again to configure my modem?
[11:46] <Olof2> If I install Ubuntu after Windows , and then want to choose between booting Ubuntu or Windows with Grub , how do I "add" my windows installation to Grub?
[11:46] <clawtooph> hahha ouchie, i just made a mess... was installing LAMP, phpmyadmin etc etc.. and i just imported a 330 meg sql.tar.gz into mysql database.. not its own.. it put it in mysql LOL
[11:46] <lock_man> wut?
[11:46] <allquixotic> richardcavell: If open source drivers aren't a valuation criteria in your selection process, I would recommend Nvidia for the featurefulness and stability of the binary drivers
[11:46] <oslito> #xubuntu-devel
[11:46] <richardcavell> allquixotic: I just want to hear from people here that their nvidia cards are supported
[11:46] <antonio_> and how are the performance with respect to intrepid?
[11:46] <allquixotic> richardcavell: Also, if you plan to do development with OpenGL >= 2.1, you _need_ binary drivers because the open source drivers don't fully support GLSL 1.20, let alone OpenGL 3.0
[11:47] <lock_man> why do u talk so fast?
[11:47] <clawtooph> so i can turn away from you
[11:47] <richardcavell> allquixotic: I'm not doing OpenGL stuff
[11:47] <th0r> lock_man: try #script-kiddies
[11:47] <allquixotic> richardcavell: I have OpenGL 3.1 100% implemented on my GeForce GTX 280 with the Nvidia binary drivers, and it's rock solid
[11:47] <lock_man> why?
[11:47] <richardcavell> allquixotic: I'm doing simple server/client stuff but I need to do framegrabbing
[11:48] <richardcavell> allquixotic: performance is not an issue but stability is essential
[11:48] <lock_man> hey th0r: what?
[11:48] <allquixotic> antonio_: upgrading might overwrite your settings, depending on the choices you make during the upgrade process
[11:48] <richardcavell> allquixotic: and by the way, yes I am jealous that you have a GTX 280
[11:48] <Saruji> richardcavell: ok hey i'm back, problem, whenever I try to install the drivers via terminal within x server i get an error message that says nvidia drivers cannot install while x is running, so I tried the sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop, all that happened was the screen shut off with a blinking curser I couldnt type with...so how can I install from within x? or without, whichever..
[11:48] <allquixotic> richardcavell: and I'm jealous of folks that have a GTX 295, or two of them in SLI
[11:49] <antonio_> is it possible to roll back to previous conf?
[11:49] <allquixotic> antonio_: I would suggest that you back up any configuration files you hand-modified for your usb modem before you upgrade.
[11:49] <allquixotic> antonio_: that way if the upgrade process overwrites anything you can put it back where it was
[11:49] <lock_man> *does a fart*
[11:49] <albano> saruji:u must stop gdm before installing drivers
[11:49] <lock_man> eww
[11:49] <Ddorda> sometimes the usb in my laptop stops working but after a restart it's back to work. is there any way to restart only the usb?
[11:50] <richardcavell> Ddorda: remount it
[11:50] <antonio_> this is fine, I can backup the cnf file, my question is, the script that uses my cnf file, will it still work?
[11:50] <Saruji> albano: i ran sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop but all that happend was it gave me a dark blank screen with a curser i couldnt type anything with?
[11:50] <richardcavell> lock_man for the ban
[11:50] <Ddorda> richardcavell: how?
[11:50] <richardcavell> Saruji: do you know how to select recovery mode on your boot menu?
[11:50] <lock_man> hew
[11:50] <richardcavell> Saruji: boot to a root shell
[11:50] <Saruji> richardcavell: yes
[11:51] <lock_man> tommy tommy tommy tommy tommy tommy tommy tommy
[11:51] <Saruji> richardcavell: see thats where you loose me
[11:51] <allquixotic> antonio_: Hard to say, it depends on what you modified - but I personally use a USB EvDO tethering to my cellphone and it's been pretty consistent across versions. It just uses wvdial and pppd
[11:51] <lock_man> _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
[11:51] <ortsvorsteher> !troll | lock_man
[11:51] <Saruji> richardcavell: shell?
[11:51] <Ddorda> richardcavell: it's not only DOK.. it's all the USB port... including the mouse
[11:51] <albano> saruji:boot to root shell and install from thrre
[11:51] <richardcavell> Saruji: select (recovery mode) from your kernel boot options.  Do you know how to do that?
[11:51] <antonio_> I use eciadsl, anyway, I had to try
[11:51] <mataks> help my printer is not working.. i can't print.. why is that
[11:51] <psnfri> !list
[11:51] <richardcavell> Saruji: then it will give you some options.  Select root shell
[11:52] <lguenhael> hello
[11:52] <richardcavell> Ddorda: okay then forget about remounting
[11:52] <allquixotic> Ddorda: I think there's a kernel param for disabling USB power management
[11:52] <allquixotic> Ddorda: Let me look around for that
[11:52] <richardcavell> Ddorda: you need to restart the whole usb
[11:52] <lock_man> hey
[11:52] <Saruji> richardcavell: you mean when my comp first loads i have a choice of options of which partition or system to run?
[11:52] <antonio_> and what about performance? I have a p4 2.53MHz,
[11:52] <richardcavell> Ddorda: what is it that you're doing that results in the USB not working?  Are you suspending or hibernating?
[11:52] <lguenhael> is there somebody who know how I can detect keyword with spetial caracters on Gedit?
[11:52] <antonio_> I mean, I'm right at the boundary with 8.10, don't want to jump over
[11:53] <Ddorda> richardcavell: nothing.. most of the time i just move the pointer or something.. i will check the logs
[11:53] <lock_man> _____________________________________________________________________________________________________________
[11:53] <Paschu> Hey :D
[11:53] <allquixotic> antonio_: Upgrading to 9.04 won't raise the system requirements significantly, if 8.10 works then 9.04 should
[11:53] <bazhang> lock_man, did you have a support question?
[11:53] <allquixotic> antonio_: With the system specs you've stated I think you are fine, unless you have 256 MB of RAM
[11:53] <lock_man> umm
[11:53] <lock_man> yer
[11:53] <bazhang> lock_man, if not, then take chat elsewhere
[11:54] <Paschu> can ubuntu perfectly cooperate with an external hard drive which is formated in ntfs?
[11:54] <lock_man> umm, how do get new prgrams and stuff?
[11:54] <albano> saruji:u can install the drivers only in the black screen
[11:54] <clawtooph> yes
[11:54] <bazhang> !software > lock_man
[11:54] <Saruji> albano: you mean terminal?
[11:54] <richardcavell> Saruji: Look at this.  Do you recognize a screen that looks something like this: http://www.pcmech.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/df8btqd3-64dndsgmd3.png
[11:54] <allquixotic> Paschu: perfect is rarely associated with software, but ntfs-3g is very stable in my own experiences with it (I constantly use it to access my music on ntfs)
[11:55] <antonio_> yes, it is fine thanks a lot allquixotic, see you, have a nice day (night?)
[11:55] <om26er> albano: yes from live cd
[11:55] <albano> saruji:not terminal
[11:55] <allquixotic> Saruji: shell, terminal and console are more or less synonymous in the sense we are using them
[11:55] <allquixotic> antonio_: it's morning for me, and you have a nice day too
[11:55] <lock_man> c ya ppl
[11:55] <Saruji> richardcavell: right thats the one, ok sorry to trouble you with this, thank YOU so much, will be back later :)
[11:55] <furythor> is there way to install phpmyadmin via apt-get ?
[11:55] <richardcavell> Saruji: no problem Saruji.  Select (recovery mode) and then select root shell
[11:56] <albano> press ctrl+alt+f6 and then stop the gdm and install the drivers
[11:56] <allquixotic> furythor: sudo aptitude install phpmyadmin ?
[11:56] <allquixotic> furythor: (without the question mark)
[11:56] <Hagge> any tips on where i should start looking for the problem when ubuntu install stops at "Loading, please wait..." when booting into install and if i boot into livecd i get the login-screen but no can't logon and ctrl-alt-F1 shows the same "Loading, please wait..."-screen?
[11:57] <Hagge> This is on a POS Packard Bell PC
[11:57] <clawtooph> did you wait?
[11:57] <veggteppe> Not sure who i talked to earlyer but, Googled abit, and it seems that my HD is FAT now?, and i need it to be NTFS? Anyone that know how i can convert the current HD, to NTFS?
[11:57] <allquixotic> Packard Bell? Like, before HP?
[11:57] <frink_> bloody micrisoft
[11:57] <frink_> I Virtualised 10 Windows 2003 boxes and they all want new licenses because they had OEM licenses which wont be 'valin' on virtual hardware
[11:58] <allquixotic> veggteppe: You can't easily "convert" from one filesystem to another, but if you have space to back up all the data on your disk, you can reformat it as NTFS and transfer the data over to it.
[11:58] <Paschu> i heard that linux has problems to read and to write on external HDs with ntfs
[11:58] <Hagge> allquixotic: no idea, i think they use that brand to sell cheap PC's over here in big box stores, gf has one she got from her father
[11:58] <frink_> they are theives
[11:58] <richardcavell> veggteppe: backup and reformat
[11:58] <Ddorda> richardcavell: i don't do anything special
[11:58] <veggteppe> allquixotic: can i just quickly reformat, without backing up? no need of what i got currently anyway
[11:58] <richardcavell> Ddorda: does it happen in other operating systems?
[11:58] <Hagge> allquixotic: 1.8GHz Core 2 Duo, 1GB RAM, pretty basic stuff i think
[11:58] <veggteppe> and: How do i reformat it to NTFS?:P
[11:59] <allquixotic> Paschu: Well, every piece of software has had a problem at one point or another in its history; what can we do to convince you that ntfs-3g in Ubuntu (Especially the latest version of Ubuntu) is stable enough for you to use?
[11:59] <richardcavell> veggteppe: if you don't desire to keep your current data then just reformat it
[11:59] <Ddorda> richardcavell: never happened. only on my ubuntu..
[11:59] <om26er> albano: is there a manual way to add modules initrd.img   just these for mmc_core 
[11:59] <om26er> mmc_block 
[11:59] <om26er> sdhci 
[11:59] <om26er> sdhci-pci 
[11:59] <FloodBot2> om26er: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:59] <allquixotic> veggteppe: If you don't need to back up, you can reformat very easily, yes
[11:59] <Viliny> Paschu, im running a external usb ntfs drive for my fileserver and it's been working flawlessly for 2 months now
[11:59] <allquixotic> Hagge: Oh, that should work, meets the sysreqs
[11:59] <richardcavell> Ddorda: I don't know, but it's obviously something to do with usb
[11:59] <Ddorda> richardcavell: i don't really mind to fix it, i just want to find a way to restart the usb
[11:59] <allquixotic> Hagge: Check the BIOS and disable Plug-n-Play OS... there are a few other tweaks that might help, but extremely hardware-dependent
[11:59] <furythor> Allquixotic that is what I thought too, for some reason it is not listed there
[12:00] <Hagge> allquixotic: aah, i was looking at that actually. will do
[12:00] <allquixotic> furythor: It is on my system. What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[12:00] <veggteppe> Thank you both, for the last question: (kinda noob to ubuntu), how do i find the name of my HD?:P, only sais "Filesystem" here, what's the name, the uhm, letter:P
[12:00] <Paschu> i never had ubuntu before
[12:00] <Paschu> thats the reason why i ask
[12:00] <allquixotic> veggteppe: Install ntfsprogs and run mkfs.ntfs to create a new NTFS volume on Ubuntu
[12:00] <ortsvorsteher> veggteppe: there are no letters for your partitions like in windows.
[12:00] <albano> om26er: i dont know that sory
[12:00] <om26er> how to add modules in initrd.img
[12:01] <veggteppe> Okay, thank you :).
[12:01] <Antses> i'm trying to make a bash function that will let me google a phrase from the command line. what i've got: function g() { elinks www.google.com/search?q="$@" ; }
[12:01] <allquixotic> veggteppe: Instead of drive letters, Linux "mounts" devices into paths in the root filesystem. The root filesystem starts with / and it represents your system volume, i.e. where the operating system you're using resides
[12:02] <Antses> if i then type "g test me" elinks will google "me" and say that it can't open the file "test"
[12:02] <veggteppe> allquixotic: Whats the run cmd for mkfs.ntfs?
[12:02] <ann123> hi all,i ask a question use my poor English: why 'info tee' go to 'man into' in ubuntu, but fedora all right?
[12:02] <allquixotic> veggteppe: mkfs.ntfs is the command name itself, you would run that in a terminal, but using `sudo'. Actually, you sound unfamiliar with the command line; skip all that and install gparted
[12:02] <richardcavell> veggteppe: what device is your external hard disk
[12:03] <Ddorda> richardcavell, allquixotic: i found in the logs: Aug  1 13:24:33 dor-laptop kernel: [  737.440821] usb 1-3: USB disconnect, address 3
[12:03] <richardcavell> veggteppe: actually do what allquixotic said and install gparted so you don't stuff it up
[12:03] <allquixotic> Ddorda: That message would appear if you unplugged a USB device, have you done so lately?
[12:03] <veggteppe> oki:p
[12:03] <ann123> sorry ,'info tee' goto 'man tee'
[12:03] <ortsvorsteher> whats your preferred language? ann123
[12:03] <Ddorda> allquixotic: i didn't
[12:03] <veggteppe> Okay, it's on now:p
[12:04] <ann123> ortsvorsteher: I am a Chinese
[12:04] <allquixotic> veggteppe: gparted will be under System -> Administration -> Partition Editor
[12:04] <veggteppe> Allready opend xD
[12:04] <allquixotic> veggteppe: It's pretty intuitive, and the GUI will let you format your partition as NTFS
[12:04] <allquixotic> You'll lose your data though, as I'm sure gparted warns you
[12:04] <naxa> hi! is there any way to see the raw data packets what comes to one of my interfaces? (i'm a bit newbee...)
[12:04] <veggteppe> Aye, but it seems like im not able to press anything on gparted
[12:05] <allquixotic> Ddorda: Hmm, it sounds like either you're having intermittent USB bus hardware failure, or the bus is turning itself off (which would be bad, but it's known to happen, as Mac OSX  had a bug just like that.)
[12:05] <allquixotic> Ddorda: Google around for "usb bus power management"
[12:05] <veggteppe> allquixotic: Or is it: Partition table?
[12:05] <allquixotic> veggteppe: If you started gparted from the terminal and you launched it as a regular user, you won't have permission to change anything
[12:05] <Keiffer> anyone here uses maltego?
[12:05] <allquixotic> veggteppe: You need to launch it as root
[12:06] <veggteppe> launched it with sudo
[12:06] <veggteppe> root = sudo su ?
[12:06] <allquixotic> naxa: Wireshark
[12:06] <allquixotic> veggteppe: sudo should work, actually
[12:06] <allquixotic> veggteppe: But just to be sure, try the icon in System -> Administration -> Partition Editor
[12:06] <GvM> hey guys. is there any way to use dvd iso shared on ftp as repo in installer?
[12:07] <naxa> allquixotic: thanks!
[12:07] <allquixotic> GvM: Are the contents of the ISO hosted on FTP, or just the .iso file itself?
[12:07] <veggteppe> allquixotic: Still not many options available.P
[12:07] <allquixotic> veggteppe: Did gparted prompt you for your root password when you launched it?
[12:07] <GvM> allquixotic, it's just an iso mounted as ftp :D
[12:08] <veggteppe> Allquixotic: Aye
[12:08] <allquixotic> veggteppe: What happens if you click on a partition in the list and right-click? Can you format it using the "Format to" menu?
[12:08] <allquixotic> veggteppe: If not, you may have to install the ntfsprogs package as I stated earlier... although I _thought_ GParted depended on it...
[12:09] <GvM> i mean... an iso set as ftp root on one pc
[12:09] <veggteppe> allquixotic: Nope, no luck on gparted =(
[12:09] <allquixotic> GvM: Oh ok, so when you FTP in, you can see the actual files inside the iso?
[12:09] <GvM> yeah
[12:10] <om26er> how do I install /var and /usr on the same drive
[12:10] <GvM> command-line expert installer begins to fetch base installing packages, and then complains that it can't get linux-firmware...2.0*** thought there is no such file on dvd :D
[12:10] <allquixotic> GvM: There may be a way to use that, then, but the real question is, how are you getting to the installer if you just have the files in FTP?
[12:10] <linduxed> is there a way to check what applications are using swap?
[12:10] <GvM> allquixotic well i use minimal ubuntu image :) or pxe boot
[12:10] <richardcavell> allquixotic: gparted suggests ntfsprogs, doesn't depend
[12:10] <allquixotic> richardcavell: Yeah, I didn't take the time to actually investigate that, shame on me
[12:11] <allquixotic> veggteppe: Restart GParted after installing ntfsprogs and try it again :-)
[12:11] <allquixotic> GvM: Ah, I've done some PXE stuff before, but I never got errors like that
[12:11] <allquixotic> GvM: In theory, what you're trying to do _should_ work
[12:12] <veggteppe> allquixotic: No Luck:P
[12:12] <allquixotic> om26er: /var and /usr are automatically installed on the same drive if you accept Ubuntu's default configuration. Or aren't they? The installer lets you choose how to partition if you select a custom layout.
[12:13] <allquixotic> veggteppe: `sudo su' to a root shell and try launching gparted from there... you might have a PAM issue with authenticating as root properly
[12:13] <veggteppe> allquixotic: No Luck there either xD
[12:13] <jrib> veggteppe, allquixotic: is « gksudo gparted » not working?
[12:14] <veggteppe> allquixotic: What im wondering is: i got the ability to make a "Partition table" and that states that all my stuff will be erased, that may be the right place or?:P
[12:14] <allquixotic> jrib: The icon in System -> Administration -> Partition Editor is reportedly causing GParted to start as if it were invoked by a regular user at a terminal, i.e. without super user privileges. But it _does_ ask for his password.
[12:14] <Olof2> Someone dual-booting windows xp and Ubuntu that can help me?
[12:14] <linduxed> is there a way to check what applications are using swap?
[12:14] <allquixotic> veggteppe: The only reason it'd ask to create a new partition table would be if the drive is totally uninitialized, or contains a partition table that Ubuntu can't recognize at all
[12:15] <ann123> why 'info tee' jump to 'man tee' but 'info coreutils tee' in ubuntu?
[12:15] <allquixotic> veggteppe: If you tell it to create a new partition table on a drive that has multiple partitions, _all data_ on _all_ the partitions will be lost -- so I don't recommend that unless you're using a disk that you can afford to nuke
[12:15] <veggteppe> allquixotic: mkay
[12:16] <kindofabuzz> http://www.madisonhousepublicity.com/downloads/kw.downloads/DoobieInMyPocket.mp3
[12:16] <kindofabuzz> oops
[12:16] <richardcavell> Is there a Chinese Ubuntu channel for ann123?
[12:16] <legend2440> !cn
[12:16] <Olof2> need help with dual-booting windows and ubuntu using grub
[12:16] <jrib> linduxed: gnome-system-monitor
[12:16] <veggteppe> allquixotic: reason why im trying to fix this is: i need to install windows, to install ubuntu ;:P, dual bot that is. BUT, when i enter the windows disc, i get the ability to use a terimnal, were i got the option to: convert, is that any option?
[12:17] <ann123> richardcavell: yes, but no one answer my question
[12:17] <allquixotic> veggteppe: Did you install Windows before Ubuntu?
[12:17] <veggteppe> Other way around, :P, and getting blue screen atm:p
[12:17] <kindofabuzz> just forget the windows install. you don't need windows! =)
[12:17] <bazhang> !ot > kindofabuzz
[12:18] <xps9000> He's right :P Just use VMware for windows. Hah
[12:18] <veggteppe> kindofabuzz: hehe, need a windows aswell :P
[12:18] <allquixotic> veggteppe: The blue screen is probably because Windows is upset that you have uprooted its master boot record
[12:18] <allquixotic> I don't know what the option to "convert" has to do with anything; I've never seen anything about that
[12:18] <Olof2> I'm having trouble with dual-booting atm , Grub can't find my windows installation..
[12:19] <linduxed> jrib: what is swap referenced as?
[12:19] <jrib> linduxed: virtual memory
[12:19] <allquixotic> veggteppe: The recommended method of installation is to first install Windows, then Ubuntu... this is much less error prone
[12:19] <linduxed> jrib: ok
[12:19] <jrib> linduxed: it's not one of the fields shown by default, so you'll need to enable it
[12:19] <GvM> allquixotic, Do you have any other ideas on how could I install ubuntu from dvd using two pc's and 1gb usb-stick and no dvd-drives? xD I just want to get some clean install (not from livecd) on my netbook. but I only have 1gb stick :( probably I can use "reconstructor" to make own distro with only packets i need but thy download links for it are broken and sourceforge got only some old version :( also I could probably share dvd as windows share, but it appears th
[12:20] <linduxed> jrib: i noticed
[12:20] <GvM> o_O
[12:20] <albano> olof2:enter the recovery mode and do update grubloader
[12:20] <jrib> !minimal | GvM
[12:20] <jrib> GvM: oh you said dvd.  Why not just use the cd though?
[12:20] <GvM> i dont have cd-drive
[12:20] <GvM> lol
[12:20] <allquixotic> GvM: why do you need to use the DVD? I'm pretty sure you can boot the live CD using something like unetbootin or Live CD Creator, which will create a live install environment on a USB stick; 1GB should be enough
[12:21] <Olof2> Albano , just installed Ubuntu so i'm a complete newbie...
[12:21] <jrib> GvM: yeah I mean use it on a usb stick
[12:21] <GvM> yeah it's enought for livecd but i wanna get that dvd installer
[12:21] <jrib> !install > GvM
[12:21] <GvM> so i could install clean console only
[12:21] <linduxed> GvM: doenst the liveusb fit on a 1GB usb? im quite sure it does
[12:21] <GvM> it does
[12:22] <albano> olof2:reboot and to menu enter the recovery mode
[12:22] <allquixotic> GvM: so you only want to install a minimal system and you want to install from a USB stick. Sounds like you can use Unetbootin (or maybe still Live USB Creator) to create a USB bootable environment from the Minimal build of the install CD
[12:22] <ranga> hello all!  I have a somewhat weird problem with my Ubuntu installation on my Phenom II machine.  Could someone please help?
[12:22] <allquixotic> !details > ranga
[12:24] <allquixotic> GvM: The whole PXE / DVD thing is way overcomplicating things if all you want is a minimal install with a USB stick :)
[12:24] <mataks> how to find a directory? i don't know where can i find the directory of openoffice..
[12:25] <allquixotic> mataks: OpenOffice has many directories containing different types of information. What, in particular, do you need?
[12:25] <mataks> what to type in the terminal to find a directory.. like i wanna find the openoffice direcytory.
[12:25] <allquixotic> mataks: man find
[12:25] <mataks> allquixotic,  i want to add new fonts... do you know how?
[12:25] <allquixotic> mataks: OpenOffice pulls its fonts from /usr/share/fonts, the system-wide font directory
[12:26] <allquixotic> mataks: If you have a true type font (.ttf file) you can put it in /usr/share/fonts/truetype
[12:26] <mataks> allquixotic,  where to get openoffice font?
[12:26] <GvM> allquixotic, well i want some small result without any downloads from internet. like i install minimal console, enable root, then add gnome without all that unused things, add abiword, totem, pidgin, no langpacks, epiphany - that's all i need on my netbook :D
[12:27] <allquixotic> mataks: OpenOffice uses font formats that are supported by the entire system. Any font you find that is supported in general on Linux will work (specifically, OpenType or TrueType fonts)
[12:27] <allquixotic> mataks: If you're trying to actually _find_ new fonts, well, I can't really help you there; you'll need to go to a company that sells new fonts. I consider them like a piece of artwork. A select few are free software and redistributable, but most custom fonts cost money.
[12:27] <jonesy__> hello ? any one know much about ati drivers on the linux kernel here
[12:28] <mataks> allquixotic,  ok thnx for the info .
[12:28] <allquixotic> GvM: Have you tried the netbook respin of Ubuntu?
[12:28] <GvM> nah i dont want it :[
[12:28] <GvM> probably i should try to make my own respin on virtualbox but i cant get reconstructor :(
[12:29] <Lord-Readman> I want to make Windows XP boot as default, I currently do this by changing default 0 to default 4, (linux, linux recovery, memtest, divider, XP) however when I update, and a new kernal is out, it changes to linuxnew, linuxnew recovery, linux, linux recovery, memtest, divider, XP. Thus it default loads MEMTEST!, so I have to go in and delete the old kernals, uninstall them, update-grub for it to get back to normal.
[12:29] <Lord-Readman> Is there a flag I can add to XP? to make it just select!
[12:29] <ranga> I have a problem with network speed throttling down unexpectedly.  The machine connects through a wireless N router as wired gigE.  The router is performing fine since another machine in Windows that connects wirelessly to the same router doesn't see this speed drop when it is occuring on this machine in question.  I am running Ubuntu 9.10.  When I restart my network using /etc/init.d/networking restart, there is no change.
[12:29] <ranga> I tried defining the /etc/network/interfaces to include eth0 and wlan0 but that didn't help either.  The only way I can get the speed back to the original 6 mbps range is by rebooting the machine.  Even then not all reboots restore the network speed.  The speed drops to as low as 200 kbps.  I am using a bandwidth testing site to measure.  I don't see any errors that I can spot in "dmesg".  I have been using linux a while and
[12:29] <ranga> like to play with it but in this case, I don't know where to begin.  Also, I had this similar problem with Fedora and Suse as well.  So, I suspect hardware but how can I confirm?
[12:29] <FloodBot2> ranga: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:29] <GvM> also i can't tell authors that the links on their website are broken cause thy captcha doesn work in there :D
[12:29] <jrib> Lord-Readman: make windows, first on your list, make default 0
[12:29] <Lord-Readman> but when an update happens, because Windows XP is BEFORE the devider
[12:29] <Lord-Readman> it breaks
[12:29] <jrib> !9.10 | ranga
[12:30] <jonesy__> (II) fglrx(0): Setting screen physical size to 400 x 300
[12:30] <jonesy__> (II) fglrx(0): Restoring recent mode: 1024x768@60Hz
[12:30] <jrib> Lord-Readman: no, make windows the absolute first one.  Put it before all the ubuntus.  Put it before the automagic kernel list
[12:30] <ranga> same issue also occured in 9.04
[12:31] <Lord-Readman> ah, i must have put it inside the automagical list
[12:31] <jrib> ranga: are you on 9.04 now?
[12:31] <Lord-Readman> jrib do you know if ubuntu will upgrade to GRUB2?
[12:31] <ranga> nope.  I moved to Karmic to see if this would resolve itself but it didn't
[12:31] <jrib> Lord-Readman: I don't know
[12:31] <jrib> ranga: #ubuntu+1 for karmic support then
[12:31] <allquixotic> ranga: Do you have any way of verifying whether it's simply a hardware "soft" incompatibility between your wireless adapter and your router? Often wifi hardware from different vendors (especially Draft-N) has big performance problems if it works at all, and this isn't a driver bug, it's a hardware limitaton.
[12:32] <allquixotic> Lord-Readman: By default, when you upgrade ubuntu it won't automatically upgrade to GRUB2, but if you install a fresh Ubuntu 9.10 it will install grub2. There is a script to manually install grub2 though
[12:33] <ranga> I am switching to : #ubuntu+1 on this problem.  But no the wireless N hardware is not the problem.  This machine is wired as well
[12:33] <ranga> even when wireless is disconnected, I have this problem
[12:33] <allquixotic> Lord-Readman: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Grub2Testing
[12:34]  * Dr_Willis hopes thers not lots and lots of issues with the change to grub2
[12:34]  * GvM loves lilo
[12:34] <SaLoMoN> grub?
[12:34] <SaLoMoN> eh
[12:34]  * Dr_Willis scoffs at lilo.
[12:34] <SaLoMoN> grub2?
[12:34] <advance> лолшто?
[12:34] <GvM> ËÎËØÒÎ
[12:35] <bazhang> !ru | advance
[12:35] <GvM> :(
[12:35] <SaLoMoN> thats very new mh
[12:35] <Dr_Willis> Im finally decently skilled in Grub-Fu :) now i gotta learn grub2-fu :)
[12:35] <advance> вась небыкуй
[12:35] <Dr_Willis> !grub | SaLoMoN
[12:35] <bazhang> advance, english here /join #ubuntu-ru
[12:35] <GvM> [00:54] <Vasya> Ñïèñîê êðóæêîâ âîæàòîãî åãîðîâà.
[12:35] <SaLoMoN> yeah Dr_Willis i know what grub is^^
[12:36] <SaLoMoN> but grub2 is new to me
[12:36] <Dr_Willis> SaLoMoN:  grub is soon to be known as 'grub-legacy' and grub2 will replace it.
[12:36] <SaLoMoN> and where's the difference?
[12:36] <Dr_Willis> ive not even gotten into the grub2 docs yet. :) i hear it has a lot of nice new features.
[12:36] <SaLoMoN> mh nice
[12:36] <SaLoMoN> lets wait and see
[12:37] <Dr_Willis> SaLoMoN:  check the grub web site  - proberly too ,many obsure things that me or you would understand. heh
[12:37] <Lord-Readman> Thanks, reading about it all now
[12:37] <Dr_Willis> Hopefully better error messages will be one improvement. :)
[12:37] <allquixotic> upgrading to grub2 pretty much damaged my bootup sequence; I tried to revert to grub legacy but it didn't really take. I get to a grub console. anyway, I'm not seeking support for it; my fingers are used to typing the commands to manually boot my kernel from the grub console at every boot (about once a week)
[12:38] <SaLoMoN> then wait^^
[12:38] <allquixotic> and no I didn't memorize my partition's GUID, I use root=/dev/sdb2
[12:39] <simon1> test
[12:39] <allquixotic> simon1: We can hear you
[12:39] <simon1> ok nice
[12:40]  * rspiky is away: Elfoglalt vagyok
[12:40] <simon1> its the first time i use irc
[12:40] <legend2440> Dr_Willis: is grub2 going to be in koala by default?
[12:41] <Edico> allquixotic, I solved my problem, I changed the shared memory for my card to minimum 32 , it was on auto. I have no problems now. Do you know if I will have less performance with my video card now?
[12:41] <Edico> I changed from BIOS
[12:41] <allquixotic> Edico: 32 is an awfully low amount for an X4500 -- it should support at least 256MB
[12:41] <allquixotic> Edico: if you are using a composited (3d accelerated / animated) desktop, or doing work with OpenGL or 3d games, you will definitely want to crank up the shared memory allocation as high as you can
[12:42] <allquixotic> Edico: if you're on a netbook or something you may be limited in how much you can allocate, with a low amount of system RAM
[12:43] <allquixotic> legend2440: I don't know whether the kernel team has made a final decision or not, but see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Grub2Testing
[12:43] <Edico> allquixotic, I have a pc with 4 GB RAM although the system shows me just 3 GB RAM
[12:43] <allquixotic> legend2440: grub2 is benig tested on as many configurations as possible, and if it's got a good PASS rate for the tests, then it'll be included by default
[12:43] <allquixotic> Edico: Ah, that's a separate issue entirely -- you're using a 32-bit kernel, without PAE, aren't you? :)
[12:43] <legend2440> allquixotic: ok thanks
[12:43] <gaz> Edico, you need to install the server kernel
[12:44] <gaz> Edico, which has pau built in
[12:44] <grawity> allquixotic: Doesn't the 32-bit one have PAE? (I think it would be dumb if it didn't.)
[12:44] <allquixotic> grawity: ubuntu-generic kernel does _not_ have PAE enabled
[12:44] <allquixotic> grawity: only the -server variant has it enabled
[12:44] <allquixotic> grawity: Unfortunately the -server kernel has many other undesirable features for desktop use, such as a non-preemptible kernel with a 100HZ timer
[12:44] <Edico> allquixotic, gaz 2.6.28-14-generic #47-Ubuntu SMP Sat Jul 25 01:19:55 UTC 2009 x86_64
[12:45] <allquixotic> Edico: oh, you're on 64-bit, ignore the whole PAE thing
[12:45] <grawity> allquixotic: really? Even Windows has that
[12:45] <jrib> grawity: iirc the nvidia driver didn't play nice with it
[12:45] <allquixotic> grawity: PAE introduces some problems for the open source graphics stack (GEM); or at least it used to... and it may have repercussions for other drivers too. additionally it's a performance hit if you have enough memory to need 3 levels of PTEs
[12:45] <allquixotic> oh, and the nvidia drivers have problems with it too, thanks jrib :) I knew GEM had problems at some point with PAE
[12:46] <allquixotic> Edico: The fact that your system reports only 3GB of memory when you have a 64-bit kernel is puzzling though
[12:47] <allquixotic> Perhaps the tool you're using to tell you your memory amount automatically subtracts off reserved sections like IGP VRAM
[12:47] <Edico> allquixotic, I looked with free
[12:47] <JenniferB> I accidentally blocked myself using denyhosts .. how can I re-allow an the blocked ip?
[12:48] <JenniferB> (assuming that I can log in)
[12:48] <allquixotic> Edico: I'm not sure, then -- free should report the physical RAM size up to the maximum amount addressable by the kernel
[12:48] <Edico> allquixotic, also cat /proc/meminfo shows MemTotal:        3276084 kB
[12:48] <allquixotic> Edico: Sounds like a hardware issue -- what does your BIOS report your RAM to be?
[12:48] <grawity> JenniferB: Stop denyhosts, edit /etc/hosts.deny, edit /var/lib/denyhosts/hosts, add yourself to /etc/hosts.allow.
[12:48] <grawity> JenniferB: Then restart denyhosts.
[12:49] <Edico> allquixotic, it reports 4GB, I will look again, brb
[12:49] <Mr_Kwan> HI, i have just installed a sata dvd r/w but now Every time i start up it reboots!!
[12:49] <JenniferB> hehe.. you are everywhere :)
[12:50] <Mr_Kwan> HI, i have just installed a sata dvd r/w but now Every time i start up it reboots!! can anyone help me?
[12:51] <phil__> hello
[12:55] <linduxed> whats the command for cleaning away configuration files?
[12:55] <kindofabuzz> rm
[12:56] <theatro> linduxed, with apt-get remove ? you want to also delete the config files?
[12:56] <kindofabuzz> apt-get --purge remove <pkg>
[12:56] <kindofabuzz> sudo that is
[12:57] <hmw> Desktop Cube with some transparency.. when I click on another window, the transparency changes for a moment, maybe its even 100%... i cant find, what plugin does this. Can someone tell me, how to get rid of this?
[12:57] <lstarnes> linduxed: there's also sudo aptitude purge packagename
[12:57] <kindofabuzz> yeah
[12:59] <YafaRay_Guest334> hi
[12:59] <YafaRay_Guest334> i need help with networking
[12:59] <Dr_Willis>  the --purge option will NOT NOT NOT remove the USERS config files in teh users home directories.. :) rember that.
[13:00] <kindofabuzz> true
[13:00] <Edico> allquixotic, the bios shows me 4GB RAM of memory, I changed the shared memory to 128 MB and it works, with 256 I tried again and it doesn't work
[13:01] <kindofabuzz> well what do they mean that purge will get rid of configs? like .conf files stashed away somewhere?
[13:01] <awesomeguy> i have GCC installed but could anyone tell me how to run C programme thru terminal , i googled but i got GCC programme.c i ran that and got  ---
[13:01] <allquixotic> Edico: maybe the card's limit is 128MB then
[13:01] <awesomeguy> gcc: newfile.c: No such file or directory
[13:02] <lstarnes> awesomeguy: you have to be in the same directory as the source file for that to work
[13:02] <erUSUL> awesomeguy: is the newfile.c in the folder you are in ?
[13:02] <allquixotic> Edico: with respect to the OS not reporting the proper amount of RAM (especially on 64 biit) I'm stumped
[13:02] <kindofabuzz> awesomeguy, gcc just compiles it, try gcc whatever.c -o whatever, that will give you an executable named whatever from whatever .c
[13:02] <kindofabuzz> i think, something like that
[13:03] <lstarnes> kindofabuzz: it's usuallg gcc -o output-file input-file.c
[13:03] <lstarnes> *usually
[13:03] <kindofabuzz> there you go, had it backwards
[13:04] <kindofabuzz> awesomeguy, then once you have the whatever executable, just ./whatever
[13:04] <Carsten_> hi guys... trying to customise my xorg.conf for 1440x900 for 9.04 after a clean install but the xorg.conf contains about 20 lines of data most of it comments... where's the rest gone?
[13:05] <allquixotic> Carsten_: 9.04 has a "lean" xorg.conf, leaving most of it up to runtime probing mechanisms
[13:05] <allquixotic> it's a new feature of Xorg 7.4
[13:05] <erUSUL> Carsten_: modern xservers do not need xorg.conf to work. if one is present is followed though
[13:06] <hmw> I accidentially pasted something like "/media/myssd/somefolder" from the clipboard instead of copying it , now the file is gone. ("renamed from xy.exe to /media/myssd/somefolder")
[13:06] <Carsten_> okay, so can i pick and choose what I put in it, or does it all have to be there the old fashin way if i do use the xorg.conf?
[13:06] <hmw> I was trying to get the file name TO the clipboard by hitting F2 (rename file)
[13:06] <cdoublejj> since ubuntu is debian based would the .deb install file for AVAST work with ubuntu is AV still good idea even with linux?
[13:06] <erUSUL> !av
[13:06] <allquixotic> Carsten_: If you want to hard code a resolution in xorg.conf then you need to specify the full device, and the screen, and the layout, so yeah you have to use the old style xorg.conf
[13:07] <grawity> cdoublejj: .debs should work with Ubuntu, but I don't think you need an antivirus.
[13:07] <YafaRay_Guest334> can some one help me with connecting
[13:07] <Edico> allquixotic, this is my mb http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=G43Twins-FullHD&s=
[13:07] <cdoublejj> yeah thats what i thought since
[13:07] <kindofabuzz> cdavis, you really only need an AV if your are forwarding emails to windows users containing attachments really
[13:07] <cdoublejj> linux has bult in security
[13:07] <cdoublejj> andgood security
[13:07] <cdoublejj> too
[13:07] <YafaRay_Guest334> no u dont need a antivirus
[13:07] <allquixotic> Carsten_: is there a particular reason why you can't use the GUI tools to set your resolution though?
[13:07] <cdoublejj> windows has but, not so  good
[13:07] <YafaRay_Guest334> its a linux kernel
[13:07] <kindofabuzz> just so you don't send them something, won't effect you
[13:07] <amik> what can I do if I try to run wubi on a netbook and the installer doesn't run?
[13:08] <YafaRay_Guest334> it will
[13:08] <Carsten_> it accepts it, but for some reason im not able to use the nvidia drivers
[13:08] <YafaRay_Guest334> amik
[13:08] <Carsten_> i havent been able to find any reason as to why
[13:08] <allquixotic> Carsten_: what video card do you have?
[13:08] <amik> YafaRay_Guest334: hi
[13:08] <cdoublejj> is linux more vulnerable with WINE?
[13:09] <YafaRay_Guest334> ho
[13:09] <Carsten_> 7300
[13:09] <BusMaster> i have a text app that automagically gets my email address from somewhere on my ubuntu box as myusername@hostname. Where can I change this so that all apps that do so get my myaddress@myprovider.com ?
[13:09] <hmw> I was trying to get the file name TO the clipboard by hitting F2 (rename file) and copying the file name to the c.b., but I accidentially pasted something instead ("/media/myssd/somefolder") and I hit enter, now the file is gone. ("renamed from /media/myssd/somefolder/xy.exe to /media/myssd/somefolder") - [sorry for spamming, just wanted to post one clear question and windows pidgin acts strangely]
[13:09] <Jordanmota> I need some help with editing my GRUB. I added an entry for windows 7 but it won't boot (says it's invalid).
[13:09] <allquixotic> cdoublejj: Windows programs designed specifically to be aware of WINE environments could potentially do nasty stuff if you ran it as root; but since you won't be running wine stuff as root if you follow security policies, I think the answer is pretty much 'no'
[13:09] <grawity> Jordanmota: pastebin the entry that you added.
[13:10] <Carsten_> 7300LE is i remember right..
[13:10] <grawity> hmw: it is not possible to rename a file to a directory if it exists.
[13:10] <YafaRay_Guest334> can some 1 help with networking
[13:10] <hmw> grawity: well, it disappeared
[13:10] <Carsten_> it used to work fine on 7.10 with the nnvidia drivers
[13:10] <YafaRay_Guest334> can some 1 help with networking
[13:10] <Jordanmota> grawity: I will do that now... hold on
[13:10] <YafaRay_Guest334> can some 1 help with networkingcan some 1 help with networking
[13:10] <YafaRay_Guest334> can some 1 help with networking
[13:10] <bazhang> YafaRay_Guest334, dont repeat so often
[13:10] <allquixotic> Carsten_: Is your problem that you want to set your screen resolution manually, or is it that you want help getting the Nvidia proprietary drivers working? Pick one and we'll work on it.
[13:10] <YafaRay_Guest334> ok
[13:11] <hmw> YafaRay_Guest334: what kind of help do you need?
[13:11] <hmw> !ask | YafaRay_Guest334
[13:11] <bazhang> YafaRay_Guest334, give many more details; what you have tried chipset etc
[13:11] <d0s4gw> Anyone ever seen the error message from avant-window-navigator that says "Warning: Screen isn't composited.  Please run compiz (-fusion) or another compositing manager". ?
[13:11] <Carsten_> nvidia drivers will not work..
[13:11] <YafaRay_Guest334> my father made a adhoc on his windows
[13:11] <Carsten_> was thinking if i set it manually it may work
[13:11] <grawity> d0s4gw: Are you running Compiz?
[13:11] <bazhang> Carsten_, notebook or desktop
[13:11] <Carsten_> desktop
[13:12] <bazhang> Carsten_, 512MB 7300?
[13:12] <d0s4gw> grawity: No, I don't believe so.  I was just getting this recently, awn was working fine previously
[13:12] <amik> what can I do if I try to run wubi on a netbook and the installer doesn't run (no window comes up)?
[13:12] <Carsten_> 256mb
[13:12] <bazhang> Carsten_, which driver
[13:12] <grawity> d0s4gw: Have you changed anything in Appearance -> Effects?
[13:13] <allquixotic> amik: you're trying to run wubi from windows and nothing happens when you run the exe?
[13:13]  * YafaRay_Guest334 slaps bazhang around a bit with a large fishbot
[13:13] <Carsten_> tried, 96, 173 and 180
[13:13] <bazhang> YafaRay_Guest334, dont do that here
[13:13] <grawity> YafaRay_Guest334: fish go m00. Now stop that.
[13:13] <YafaRay_Guest334> baz i need help
[13:13] <amik> allquixotic: exactly. I looked at the process list, and saw that it spawns pyrun.exe (or something like that), which dies after a second, and that's it.
[13:13] <d0s4gw> grawity: No, the only change I've had is package updates.  Btw, it's worth noting that I am using the proprietary ATI Radeon drivers.
[13:13] <bazhang> Carsten_, which is the recommended one? the 180? in hardware drivers
[13:14] <Carsten_> bazhang: 180
[13:14] <allquixotic> amik: Sounds like a problem with the interaction between your Windows installation and Wubi (duh!) Sorry I can't offer any more advice, I only tried wubi once, long long ago... you might file a bug against Wubi
[13:14]  * YafaRay_Guest334 slaps Bogus8 around a bit with a large fishbot
[13:14] <bazhang> YafaRay_Guest334, which exact chipset; are you logged into ubuntu now
[13:14]  * YafaRay_Guest334 slaps BlaSux around a bit with a large fishbot
[13:14] <YafaRay_Guest334> huh
[13:15] <bazhang> Carsten_, I have a very similar card (the 512 though) and the 180 works fine
[13:15] <grawity> YafaRay_Guest334: Please stop that.
[13:15] <cdoublejj> http://librenix.com/?inode=21 was good read and does a good job explaining why it is so hard for a linux virus to arise
[13:15] <bazhang> YafaRay_Guest334, if you need help then give us the info. stop with the /me actions
[13:15] <amik> allquixotic: yes, I figured that :-) but I was hoping there's a workaround somewhere... it's just a stock winxp sp3 on a new machine
[13:15] <allquixotic> amik: Hmm, so it's a "clean" box?
[13:15] <Jordanmota> grawity: here's the entry I added to GRUB - http://pastebin.com/d9467e17
[13:15]  * YafaRay_Guest334 i need help
[13:15] <Carsten_> may i ask with what resolution?
[13:16] <bazhang> Carsten_, did you install the nvidia-settings
[13:16]  * YafaRay_Guest334 needs help
[13:16] <Carsten_> let me check... i think so tho.
[13:16] <bazhang> YafaRay_Guest334, then give us the info
[13:16] <hmw> grawity: strange, i tried to reproduce and got an error message. After updatedb i tried to find the file, but it seems to be gone. What could I possibly have done??
[13:16] <amik> allquixotic: I removed some vendor crapware, installed firefox and a couple other apps, ran windows update, that's basically it
[13:16] <YafaRay_Guest334> ok my father made a adhoc
[13:16] <allquixotic> YafaRay_Guest334: An ad-hoc wireless network?
[13:16] <d0s4gw> grawity: sorry, I tried something that messed up my window manager.
[13:16] <bazhang> YafaRay_Guest334, are you booted into windows or ubuntu now
[13:17] <YafaRay_Guest334> yes
[13:17] <hmw> ROFL bazhang
[13:17] <YafaRay_Guest334> no im using my father computer
[13:17] <YafaRay_Guest334> (windows
[13:17] <hmw> bazhang: he's a bot?
[13:17] <allquixotic> amik: Just to confirm, where are you getting Wubi from? (To make sure you're getting it from the right place)
[13:17] <Carsten_> Yes, nvidia-settings is installed
[13:17] <bazhang> hmw, what?
[13:17] <d0s4gw> grawity: it appears you might be on to something... I tried going into desktop effects and I am unable to enable any options other than none.
[13:17] <allquixotic> amik: I always worry with free software Windows programs that there's some faker out there distributing a virus masqueraded as a legitimate Free Software program
[13:17] <Carsten_> when i try and run that it tells me i am not currently using that driver etc.
[13:17] <grawity> d0s4gw: Try running 'compiz' from a terminal.
[13:17] <hmw> bazhang: just loled when i saw "are you in windows or ubuntu?" - "yes."
[13:18] <amik> allquixotic: I made it using the netbook remix instructions, and it boots properly and has no checksum errors, but now I want to install it
[13:18] <Carsten_> however when i try and run the nvidia driver X crashes
[13:18] <bazhang> Carsten_, ah I see
[13:18] <grawity> d0s4gw: The 'none' option uses Metacity (which can do compositing too, by the way, but without any effects)
[13:18] <YafaRay_Guest334> ya im on win (my fathers)
[13:18] <allquixotic> amik: Hmm, you *made* it? Interesting - I had no idea you could _make_ a Wubi installer. :)
[13:18] <YafaRay_Guest334> when i try to connect it only uses limited connections
[13:18] <bazhang> YafaRay_Guest334, no real way to troubleshoot unless you can access the ubuntu machine
[13:18] <allquixotic> amik: I just install Ubuntu and Windows in dual boot configuration.
[13:18] <Keiffer> How do I change my name in Ubuntu?
[13:18] <amik> allquixotic: foss is foss, I guess. there's advantages and disadvantages, regardless of which OS it's on...
[13:18] <YafaRay_Guest334> i can
[13:19] <YafaRay_Guest334> i have it beside me
[13:19] <eoch> I'm having a problem where my system is randomly freezing / locking hard while in the latest version of mozilla (I think that is the culprit) but I went into log viewer and ubuntu is freezing and doesn't even write anything to the logs.  Any have recommendations on how to troubleshoot it?
[13:19] <d0s4gw> grawity: aborting and using fallback: /usr/bin/metacity
[13:19] <grawity> Keiffer: open Terminal, type 'chfn'. (There is a graphical program somewhere, but I don't remember)
[13:19] <amik> allquixotic: I meant I made the bootable usb from the image :-)
[13:19] <kindofabuzz> Carsten_, would it happen to be a new install of jaunty? I had that problem then once all the updates where installed the drivers worked
[13:19] <bazhang> YafaRay_Guest334, then tell us the output of lspci and ifconfig at paste.ubuntu.com
[13:19] <grawity> d0s4gw: Can you pastebin the entire output of compiz?
[13:19] <d0s4gw> This has happened before, last time I ctrl+c'd it and my whole window manager was messed up
[13:19] <d0s4gw> grawity: sure
[13:19] <grawity> Keiffer: Or, did you mean the login name?
[13:19] <fabio123> hi
[13:19] <amik> allquixotic: the netbook image remix comes with wubi right in the main folder. didn't touch anything from the image.
[13:20] <allquixotic> amik: You're confusing me now :S what does a bootable USB device have to do with wubi? I thought wubi installs Ubuntu inside a Windows partition?
[13:20] <Carsten_> yes, it is... i tried again after the updates.... no diff
[13:20] <bazhang> Carsten_, did you install the driver? ie from synaptic or the hardware drivers panel?
[13:20] <d0s4gw> grawity: http://pastebin.com/m757dd86a
[13:20] <grawity> d0s4gw: compiz and metacity _are_ the window managers, that's why they die after you Ctrl-C them :)
[13:20] <allquixotic> amik: Sorry, I'm really ignorant about the configuration you're using! I'm probably not the best to help you with this, except to act as a wall to talk to in hopes that the solution will dawn upon you as we speak :)
[13:20] <kindofabuzz> Carsten_, maybe try a reboot? then try to install the drivers
[13:20] <amik> allquixotic: true, but how would I get ubuntu/wubi onto the windows box in order to run it in the first place? (hint: usb stick!)
[13:20] <Carsten_> hardware drivers panel
[13:21] <Carsten_> tried rebooting as well...
[13:21] <Peddy> When I log into my headless server via ssh and I start an http download with wget, the download works fine. However, when I turn off my machine, the ssh connection is closed the download is stopped. Is there a way to get around this?
[13:21] <bazhang> Carsten_, and it crashed?
[13:21] <allquixotic> amik: Ohhhh, gotcha! Right! Netbooks, don't have CD drives...
[13:21] <Carsten_> yes
[13:21] <grawity> amik: Copy the Wubi.exe and the Ubuntu ISO to that stick.
[13:21] <allquixotic> amik: But... I thought wubi was distributed as a downloadable EXE.
[13:21] <Carsten_> let me see if i can find the log and ill pastebin it
[13:21] <Keiffer> grawity, i only have one profile, user.
[13:21] <bazhang> Carsten_, what about installing from synaptic package manager
[13:21] <Keiffer> grawity user@computer
[13:21] <Jordanmota> grawity: here's my output of fdisk -l -> http://pastebin.com/d5060b3ac
[13:21] <grawity> allquixotic: It is.
[13:21] <Carsten_> tried that... same result
[13:21] <bazhang> Carsten_, synaptic crashed?
[13:22] <Keiffer> grawity, i want to rename user to my name. and not to interfere with other programs
[13:22] <grawity> d0s4gw: Is there anything in /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[13:22] <allquixotic> amik: So you're saying you created an Ubuntu Netbook Remix "live USB stick" (still wrapping my head around this) and it shipped a Wubi installer with it? Wow!
[13:22] <verma> hi
[13:22] <Carsten_> no X crashed on restart
[13:22] <amik> grawity: even better, the UNR image already comes with wubi on it - I just had to download it, run a single command to transfer the image to the usb stick (dd), and plug the stick into to the netbook
[13:22] <fabio123> i want to know: is it possible to get rid of the menubar in nautilus
[13:22] <fabio123> whitout having to recompile and hack it..
[13:22] <fabio123> it's for the leopard theme
[13:22] <allquixotic> amik: I'm impressed :) I may not be able to help with the Wubi in particular, but I might suggest you try to use that USB stick to install in a dual boot configuration with two partitions
[13:22] <d0s4gw> grawity: It's a big file, want me to grep for anything
[13:22] <GvM> allquixotic, ok i try to write ubuntu-9.04-alternative.iso on my usb-stick with unetbootlin. it copies everything ok, then i try to boot - choosing any options from boot menu leads to internet installation (like menu where you must specify any ubuntu mirror), ok i check isolinux.cfg from iso and boot manually by specifying additional option: file=/preseed/ubuntu.seed - this leads to normal alternate installer, where you install from cdrom. when I get to step: "ch
[13:22] <grawity> amik: Um, you could just simply copy the .iso to stick.
[13:23] <Carsten_> brb
[13:23] <bazhang> Carsten_, what about getting to a tty and stopping gdm and installing from there via the command line
[13:23] <kindofabuzz> fabio123, View
[13:23] <grawity> Keiffer: users-admin
[13:23] <grawity> d0s4gw: The last 20 or so lines will be enough.
[13:23] <allquixotic> grawity: You could? I'm pretty sure that if you just copy the .iso file onto some FAT filesystem on a USB stick it won't make it magically bootable
[13:23] <Carsten_> i had that thought at almost the same second u said it bazhang hehe
[13:23] <Carsten_> back in a few
[13:23] <bazhang> Carsten_, nice
[13:23] <b3rz3rk3r> afternoon all
[13:23] <grawity> allquixotic: ah, I didn't know it had to be bootable too.
[13:23] <bazhang> whoops
[13:23] <fabio123> kindofabuzz: menubar i mean, like the Leopard OS
[13:23] <d0s4gw> grawity: The last 20 lines are related to the USB mouse... I'll pastebin the while file
[13:24] <grawity> d0s4gw: Okay.
[13:24] <allquixotic> grawity: to get at the wubi installer, it doesn't; but since he did it the way he did, it _is_ bootable now :)
[13:24] <onats> what's a good open source wiki that i can setup at home?
[13:24] <YafaRay_Guest523> hi
[13:24] <YafaRay_Guest523> hi
[13:24] <YafaRay_Guest523> hi
[13:24] <allquixotic> grawity: to get at the ISO contents, though, he'd need some program like MagicISO
[13:24] <FloodBot2> YafaRay_Guest523: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:24] <bazhang> YafaRay_Guest523, hi
[13:24] <amik> grawity: it's not distributed as an iso, but as an img. the instructions in the download page are pretty straightforward - u run a command that transfers the image to the usb stick. the image is already bootable, includes wubi, and everything. I was impressed with the convenience too.
[13:24] <allquixotic> onats: MediaWiki is used by Wikipedia and it's FOSS
[13:24] <kindofabuzz> fabio123, the sidebar?
[13:24] <grawity> onats: Tons. http://wikimatrix.org/
[13:24] <YafaRay_Guest523> oj
[13:24] <onats> grawity, looking, thanks.
[13:24] <YafaRay_Guest523> ok
[13:24] <d0s4gw> grawity: http://pastebin.com/m25c9666
[13:24] <onats> allquixotic, thanks!
[13:24] <fabio123> menubar*
[13:24] <YafaRay_Guest523> baz
[13:24] <grawity> onats: MediaWiki is often used, but it's kinda ... heavy.
[13:25] <onats> grawity, what will you use?
[13:25] <kindofabuzz> fabio123, oh
[13:25]  * YafaRay_Guest523 wants basag to help
[13:25] <grawity> onats: I don't actually know... so far, I like DokuWiki.
[13:25] <bazhang> YafaRay_Guest523,
[13:25] <fabio123> wait*
[13:25] <Keiffer> I have the same name for root and for my user.
[13:25] <YafaRay_Guest523> yes
[13:25] <amik> grawity: and it did work - I can plug it into the netbook and boot from it and it works great. the problem is now I want to install it to the HD, at this point I don't want to mess with the partitions, and wubi is supposed to do exactly that - except the installer doesn't work
[13:25] <grawity> Keiffer: I don't actually understand what are you trying to do.
[13:26] <bazhang> YafaRay_Guest523, give us the output of lspci and ifconfig at paste.ubuntu.com then tell us the url
[13:26] <fabio123> Please everyone look at this:http://www.gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=109192&file1=109192-1.jpg&file2=&file3=&name=Leopard+OS
[13:26] <bleah> guys how can i mount an image in a virtual drive
[13:26] <fabio123> see Nautilus
[13:26] <YafaRay_Guest523> i cant
[13:26] <YafaRay_Guest523> i dont have wireless on it
[13:26] <bazhang> YafaRay_Guest523, you said you could access the box
[13:26] <grawity> bleah: a CD image? sudo mkdir /media/someimage; sudo mount -o loop image.iso /media/someimage
[13:26] <YafaRay_Guest523> ya but not internet
[13:26] <YafaRay_Guest523> on (ubuntu)
[13:26] <allquixotic> amik: I realize that you are having problems with wubi and that it totally nullifies its convenience factor by doing nothing with no error messages, and that's unfortunate... at this point you can file a bug with Wubi, or search existing bugs or forums (google is your friend), or you can work with us to try and work out the partition stuff and dual boot :)
[13:27] <bleah> thx
[13:27] <bazhang> YafaRay_Guest523, what about plugging in ethernet then
[13:27] <cdoublejj> how well does ubuntu run on netbooks? when i ask that iguess i mean the latest version 9.04 i think?
[13:27] <Keiffer> grawity. I have two users as far as i can see. the one that logins, and Root. Root now has the same name with the user is currently have. I want that user@computer to be me@computer
[13:27] <allquixotic> amik: I've done tons of dual boot configurations so I could help you
[13:27] <richardcavell> allquixotic: you said you had an Intel GMA 950?  Have you tried playing Half Life 2 under wine?
[13:27] <bazhang> cdoublejj, very well
[13:27] <YafaRay_Guest523> no my father uses reliance netconnect
[13:27] <cdoublejj> thnak you
[13:27] <ikonia> cdoublejj: depends on the specification and compatability of the netbook
[13:27] <grawity> d0s4gw: There are these two lines:#
[13:27] <grawity> (WW) fglrx(0): * DRI initialization failed!                  *
[13:27] <grawity> #
[13:27] <grawity> (WW) fglrx(0): * (maybe driver kernel module missing or bad) *
[13:27] <grawity> #
[13:27] <FloodBot2> grawity: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:27] <grawity> (WW) fglrx(0): * DRI initialization failed!                  *
[13:27] <amik> allquixotic: I've search around, and when I gave up I came to the pros (a.k.a You)
[13:27] <cdoublejj> yes i was very curious how well HL@ runs on the GMA 950 as well
[13:27] <cdoublejj> HL2*
[13:28] <bazhang> cdoublejj, eeepc 701 4G ram is not bad
[13:28] <eoch> I'm having a problem where my system is randomly freezing / locking hard while in the latest version of mozilla (I think that is the culprit) but I went into log viewer and ubuntu is freezing and doesn't even write anything to the logs.  Any have recommendations on how to troubleshoot it?
[13:28] <cdoublejj> mainyl under windows but hey it wine works too
[13:28] <allquixotic> richardcavell: I have a GM965, which is the same chipset I think, but mobile. and no, I haven't tried anything as high-end as Half Life 2. I have tried Savage 2 though, which requires full OpenGL 2.1 support with GLSL 1.20, and it doesn't work because Mesa's shader compiler uses more hardware registers in the output GPU assembly code than the hardware supports. Doh!
[13:28] <richardcavell> I've played Half-Life and just completed Blue Shift on my GMA 950. It runs just fine
[13:28] <ikonia> eoch: which version of mozilla
[13:28] <richardcavell> gives me a good 30fps+
[13:28] <GvM> richardcavell, they ask about second one
[13:28] <allquixotic> richardcavell: Half Life 1 is very different than Half Life 2
[13:28] <richardcavell> but only under karmic, not jaunty
[13:29] <grawity> d0s4gw: Does 'dmesg' say anything about the driver?
[13:29] <minimec> bazhang: YafaRay_Guest523: It's an Ad-Hoc net. He probably chose IP's manually. I guess, there is no nameserver in /etc/resolv.conf
[13:29] <bazhang> YafaRay_Guest523, well we need that info to troubleshoot; type in the commands, then copy them and use the windows machine to paste.ubunt.com with it and then give us the url
[13:29] <YafaRay_Guest523> no
[13:29] <eoch> ikonia: mozilla 3.5.1
[13:29] <bazhang> minimec, thanks YafaRay_Guest523 did you see that
[13:29] <Cube> this is retarded
[13:29] <amik> allquixotic: I've done dual boots too, but it's my first time on a netbook (with their built in hidden recovery partitions etc.). plus, I first want to do a test run, to see if UNR even runs well, at least as well as the built in xp. if it works out, drivers all work, etc., then I may make a premanent dual boot partition
[13:29] <richardcavell> I know HL1 and HL2 are different.
[13:29] <YafaRay_Guest523> what
[13:29] <YafaRay_Guest523> no
[13:29] <bazhang> Cube, ??
[13:29] <ikonia> eoch: ok - stop using that and use the official stable/ubuntu version and see if the problem stops
[13:29] <richardcavell> That's why I'm asking too
[13:29] <netsurf3> haha
[13:29] <YafaRay_Guest523> we use the same ip
[13:29] <netsurf3> oops wrong window...
[13:29] <allquixotic> richardcavell: I regularly keep up to date with the Intel graphics stack by recompiling everything from git, so I am pretty sure the state of Mesa hasn't advanced to the point where I can play Savage 2 or Half-Life 2 yet
[13:29] <ikonia> eoch: that's a good first step
[13:30] <allquixotic> richardcavell: Much more info in #intel-gfx
[13:30] <richardcavell> allquixotic: mate, I'll join that channel
[13:30] <richardcavell> allquixotic: but karmic has the very latest of everything, doesn't it?
[13:30] <richardcavell> I hope they backport it all to Jaunty
[13:30] <allquixotic> richardcavell: No
[13:30] <eoch> I'm really suprised that an app can freeze the system hard like that.. doesn't it have protected memory spaces?
[13:30]  * YafaRay_Guest523 uses the same ip as his father
[13:30] <Cube> bazhang: i set up irssi to write logs once every minute, rather than instantly, my setting write_buffer_timeout to 60 and write_buffer_size to 99999999999, because i have my logs symlinked to my dropbox, and it still writes immediately
[13:30] <ikonia> richardcavell: 9.10 discussion is in #ubuntu+1 (if you want to check it out)
[13:30] <ikonia> eoch: it shouldn't be able to - but you said you thought that was the problem
[13:30] <richardcavell> ikonia: okay
[13:30] <allquixotic> richardcavell: karmic does not have all the latest graphics stack packages, and it will become increasingly outdated over time as packages are frozen in the release schedule; additionally, new software such as graphics stack won't be backported at all
[13:31] <richardcavell> allquixotic: bummer for Jaunty
[13:31] <allquixotic> richardcavell: it's just their release policy, I prefer to live on the edge myself
[13:31] <richardcavell> allquixotic: it's difficult to recommend Jaunty for an Intel GMA 950 user then
[13:31] <allquixotic> richardcavell: are you familiar with Phoronix?
[13:31] <richardcavell> allquixotic: yes
[13:31] <d0s4gw> grawity: I'm looking, I don't see anything specific to the video driver or any errors
[13:32] <richardcavell> allquixotic: and glxgears :)
[13:32] <allquixotic> richardcavell: Michael Larabel (the Phoronix guy) does frequent benchmarks of the latest Intel graphics stack, and it's been getting noticeably worse with every release since 8.04 or so
[13:32] <richardcavell> allquixotic: I want to talk to you about your drivers.  Can we join #ubuntu+1 to keep ikonia happy?
[13:32] <allquixotic> richardcavell: the OpenGL feature set has been slowly expanding, but the 2d performance has been tanking
[13:32] <bazhang> Cube, the logs for this channel? or others as well
[13:32] <allquixotic> richardcavell: alright sure
[13:32] <eoch> ikonia: is there a way for me to put it in a protected memory space?  I'm trying to learn more about ubuntu, so that way if I ever have a problem app at work I can have a better idea how to deal with it.
[13:32] <richardcavell> allquixotic: but the Intel graphics stack has been unuseably unstable until about now
[13:33] <amik> allquixotic , grawity: well, thanks anyway. I'll search some more, try to work around it, file a bug report. if all else fails, I'll either stick with xp for now, or ruin some partitions :-) thanks!
[13:33] <allquixotic> richardcavell: comes with the territory
[13:33] <sp4z> how can i see what drivers my wireless card is using?
[13:33] <ikonia> eoch: it doesn't work like that
[13:33] <allquixotic> amik: Good luck
[13:33] <ikonia> eoch: why do you think firefox is the problem
[13:33] <cahippy> hi, im new to linux and would like to know if i can install macromedia programs in linux or is there equivalent os software
[13:33] <erUSUL> !wine | cahippy
[13:33] <bazhang> cahippy, shockwave?
[13:33] <ikonia> cahippy: you'd need to use the windows compatability program "wine" to use macromedia programs", however not all are compatible
[13:34] <eoch> ikonia:  I think usually when I notice that it freezes is when I click on the x to close a tab.  I'm just guessing.
[13:34] <erUSUL> !appdb > cahippy
[13:34] <cahippy> thankyou
[13:34] <Boohbah> eoch: do you get any useful error message running it from a terminal?
[13:34] <hmw> cahippy: what Macromedia product do you want to run in Ubuntu?
[13:34] <ikonia> eoch: ok, a good start is rolling back to the stable version then and seeing if that makes a difference
[13:35] <eoch> Boohbah:  you mean during startup on ongoing while it's running?
[13:35] <cdoublejj> 	is cedega better than wine for games even though it cost money some people speak badly of it?
[13:35] <ikonia> cdoublejj: it's hit and miss on both
[13:35] <cdoublejj> i see
[13:35] <ikonia> cdoublejj: cedega does have comercial support though
[13:35] <cdoublejj> thank you
[13:35] <sp4z> how can i see what drivers my wifi card is using?
[13:36] <cdoublejj> though cedega is not free correct
[13:36] <Boohbah> eoch: i mean when it crashes... but i second ikonia's advice, use the stable version unless you really like debugging
[13:36] <sp4z> modprobe ---?
[13:36] <bazhang> cdoublejj, correct
[13:36] <fabio123> sp4z: sudo lshw
[13:36] <fabio123> sp4z: sudo lshw -C network
[13:36] <fabio123> hot sure though
[13:36] <fabio123> not*
[13:36] <sp4z> fabio123, tyvm
[13:36] <ubuntu> ciao
[13:37] <eoch> Boohbah: well I was hoping to trouble shoot the issue instead of just roll back, that way it's a learning experience for me.
[13:37] <ikonia> eoch: first find out if it IS the problem - roll back
[13:37] <eoch> :) Ikonioa true.
[13:37] <Jordanmota> I need some help with editing my GRUB. I added an entry for windows 7 but it won't boot (says it's invalid).
[13:38] <cahippy> macromedia mx suite, dreamweaver, fireworks
[13:38] <eoch> the old version is still installed, I will change my pointers.
[13:38] <sp4z> fabio123, that shows the wifi card yeah but not the driver im running?
[13:38] <d0s4gw> grawity: http://pastebin.com/m5331b46c
[13:38] <fabio123> the line configuration:
[13:39] <sp4z> fabio123, seen ty
[13:39] <ubuntu> mi potete pasare il server in italiano
[13:39] <erUSUL> !it
[13:40] <MarkG> Hi, I have a Sheevaplug ARM plug computer on the way, and I want to put Ubuntu on it.   (I currently use Gentoo, but a source distro is not really suitable for a embedded processor, and i don't even want to go to cross compiling!).  Is there a way to browse the ARM repository, so I can see if it covers the packages I think I will be needing?
[13:40] <eoch> is 3.0.12 the correct version for ubuntu?
[13:40] <eoch> mozilla
[13:40] <grawity> The latest is 3.5.1
[13:40] <fabio123> 3.5.1 sucks*
[13:41] <grawity> fabio123: Give reasons.
[13:41] <MarkG> Firefox sucks full stop.   Try Opera.
[13:41] <eoch> grawity:  I was just told to roll back because I suspect that is what is causing my system freezing.
[13:41] <fabio123> i had a lot of problems with it, memory leak, etc
[13:41] <erUSUL> MarkG: packages.ubuntu.com
[13:41] <jeeez> hello. i'm trying to use expect with minicom, but there's something wrong. any ideas anyone?
[13:41] <erUSUL> !language | MarkG
[13:41] <hanbin973> 음냐
[13:42] <hanbin973> 있긴 있군 ㅋㅋㅋ
[13:42] <hanbin973> 신기해..
[13:42] <bazhang> !ko | hanbin973
[13:42] <hanbin973> ...
[13:42] <hanbin973> I just came here for fun. sorry;;
[13:42] <bazhang> hanbin973, here is english ; /join #ubuntu-ko
[13:42] <cahippy> hi hmw macromedia mx suite, dreamweaver, fireworks
[13:42] <cdoublejj> ko what lang is that
[13:43] <cdoublejj> i can see his fonts properly
[13:43] <erUSUL> cdoublejj: korean
[13:43] <bazhang> cahippy, check the appdb
[13:43] <cdoublejj> ah
[13:43] <cahippy> sorry im new here and a bit lost
[13:43] <bazhang> cahippy, its okay
[13:43] <bazhang> cahippy, you need to do a bit of reading though of links
[13:44] <erUSUL> cahippy: you recieved de appdb factoid i send you earlier ?
[13:44] <buzzomatic_> Hello again, having a bit of trouble installing some packages, keep getting this error (had to take a screenshot, copy and paste didn't work): http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2ewieza&s=3
[13:44] <cahippy> loving linux, makes you wonder why it never came first brilliant
[13:44] <gartral> anyway i can check the wattage my overall system uses versus what the PSU is delivering in software?
[13:44] <mb74> is it possible to set a different base version than the automatically detected by dpkg-parsechangelog when i  call "debuild -S"? I've created a package which already has version 0.4.24-ep3, but the originally available version in jaunty is 0.4.22. When I call "debuild -S" then it searches for ...0.4.24.orig.tar.gz, but I want it to search for ...0.4.22.orig.tar.gz.
[13:44] <jeeez> expect, anyone?
[13:44] <cahippy> aahhhaaa
[13:44] <testi> I started a print job in f-spot with probably about 200 images (6 to 9 megapixel, jpeg) 9 images per page and it starts hanging then. Not threaded? It takes so long, no progress bar, so that I think that it hangs forever killing f-spot. Whats wrong here?
[13:45] <cahippy> to everone tht makes linux possible thankyou
[13:45] <bazhang> jeeez, pardon?
[13:45] <tgpraveen> hey guys
[13:45] <cahippy> bazhang got it thanx
[13:45] <tgpraveen> 	<tgpraveen>	i have a nokia e51 and banshee latest from unstable ppa running on jaunty jacakalope
[13:45] <tgpraveen> 	<tgpraveen>	when i connect my nokia e51 i get a pupup on my cell saying which mode i want to connect in i select the pc suite mode
[13:45] <tgpraveen> 	<tgpraveen>	the other mode is mass storage mode btw
[13:45] <tgpraveen> 	<tgpraveen>	but after i do this though network manager offers to establish a connection using the cell which i decline
[13:45] <FloodBot2> tgpraveen: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:45] <tgpraveen> 	<tgpraveen>	and i want to add songs using banshee or rhythmbox
[13:45] <jeeez> bazhang: expect+minicom=trouble! need help :(
[13:46] <d0s4gw> grawity: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=582207&page=2
[13:46] <gartral> buzzomatic_: what were you trying too install?
[13:46] <d0s4gw> grawity: This is almost exactly the same problem I am having but xserver-xgl is not available in synaptic or apt-get.
[13:46] <buzzomatic_> gartral: a lot of games, too many to list/remember
[13:47] <erUSUL> buzzomatic_: seems an archive is corrupted... do « sudo cp /var/lib/dpkg/available-old /var/lib/dpkg/available »
[13:47] <erUSUL> buzzomatic_: do not make a typo
[13:47] <gartral> buzzomatic_: are they from PPAs or original Repos?
[13:47] <Boohbah> cahippy: you may also encourage adobe to support linux
[13:47] <erUSUL> buzzomatic_: then try again to istall something or upgrade
[13:47] <buzzomatic_> erUSUL: should I quit the Add/Remove software tool first?
[13:48] <cahippy> will do boobah,
[13:49] <rhaven> hi
[13:50] <rhaven> im having a problem with pppoeconf, im trying to setup an adsl connection works fine in windows but not in linux (currently using linux mint)
[13:51] <rhaven> does anyone have any sugestions of where to look for more information
[13:51] <phyrrus> who here likes the game clear vision?
[13:52] <Carsten_> back...
[13:52] <jefinc> !ot | phyrrus
[13:52] <phyrrus> fine...
[13:53] <buzzomatic_> erUSUL: thanks, seems to be in order now
[13:53] <Carsten_> I tried to install drivers by synaptic then removed also tried via command line. the X server still crashes when trying to load. i also just booted an old ver of ubuntu .. 7;10 with nvidia drivers, it worked fine.
[13:55] <grom358> I am running Jaunty 64 bit.. and I want Transmission to only download torrents between 2am to midday. So I have set it to have 0kb/s for download between midday to 2AM. but its downloading anyway
[13:55] <grom358> also it keeps setting my normal download limit to 0kb/s
[13:55] <grom358> has anyone experienced this?
[13:55] <bazhang> Carsten_, you entered a tty , stopped gdm and installed then rebooted?
[13:56] <Carsten_> yes
[13:57] <Alvinware> grom358, scheduled limit?
[13:57] <Carsten_> ggrrrr
[13:57] <bazhang> Carsten_, how did you stop gdm?
[13:57] <Carsten_> brb
[13:57] <sinan> i have a problem, my sound card isn't working right. It doesn't play back anything from applications with GUI, but if i play a file from the terminal (using mplayer), it works fine. What could be the problem?
[13:57] <MarkG> Is the package list at http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/esniper  correct?  As this listing ONLY shows x86 and x64, however if I download http://ports.ubuntu.com/dists/jaunty/universe/binary-armel/Packages.gz   is shows esniper hasa ARM port in the universe repository.   Which is correct?
[13:57] <grom358> Alvinware: yeah under the bandwidth tab
[13:58] <MarkG> is there a way to get a defintive package list for a particular Ubuntu version and arch?
[13:59] <Alvinware> grom358, Just play with that setting to found out the right one for you.
[13:59] <sHyLoCk_> MarkG: are you looking for this http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/
[13:59] <sHyLoCk_> ?
[13:59] <grom358> yeah it seems buggy.. I set a limit and its ignoring it
[13:59] <Alvinware> grom358, It's limit, not stop the download, right, it said?
[14:00] <grom358> i just restarted transmission and it seems to be working now.. but the setting keeps breaking every now and then
[14:00] <Alvinware> grom358, indeed, transmission was much more easy than aMule in settings.
[14:01] <Alvinware> grom358, setting keep breaking?
[14:01] <grom358> yeah.. i had it to limit the download to 0kb/s between midday and 2AM.. and just before it started downloading
[14:02] <grom358> and its only 11PM here
[14:03] <Edico> after I add a user to a group I must reboot?
[14:03] <grawity> Edico: No, just re-login (if you're that user).
[14:03] <uuv> I'm running Ubuntu 9.04 with Sony Vaio VGN-Z11XN/B, and it has a NVIDIA GeForce 9300M GS graphics card. I've been trying to install its drivers from Administration->Hardware drivers, but everytime I boot after that, it goes into low resolution mode and I can't change that. How could I install these drivers properly?
[14:03] <Edico> although I'm in the group games I can't enter in a directory that I have permission
[14:04] <grawity> Edico: Does 'id' show that you're in that group?
[14:04] <grawity> Edico: If not, you need to log out and then log in again.
[14:04] <Edico> grawity, I'm am in that group
[14:04] <Alvinware> grom358, maybe you can search transmission website out by google, and go into their wiki/doc, all you can do is to set it to the setting that you want, either it work or not, it's depend on the program design.
[14:04] <grawity> Edico: Does 'id' show that
[14:04] <grawity> ?
[14:04] <Edico> yes
[14:05] <Paschu> is there a list of small games i can play in ubuntu without an emulator/simulator?
[14:06] <Alvinware> uuv, you may find the driver in nvidia website.
[14:07] <chris-dowle> how do i stop audio from pausing when i switch to different consoles in ubuntu, its really pissing me off
[14:07] <introuble> 9-pvyueu9pv,es+0äb,649s,sv
[14:07] <Carsten_> back...
[14:07] <introuble> ooops
[14:08] <introuble> excuse my cat
[14:08] <Edico> grawity, it works after I reloged
[14:08] <MarkG> sHyLoCk_: no I am saying the package esniper says it's for amd64 and i386 only, however the packages.gz for armel says there is a ARM port, which is correct?
[14:09] <sHyLoCk_> MarkG: sorry misunderstood u
[14:09] <Carsten_> this is the command i used to stop gdm: /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[14:09] <Jordanmota> I need some help with editing my GRUB. I added an entry for windows 7 but it won't boot (says it's invalid).
[14:09] <introuble> hey i installed this
[14:10] <introuble> thanks for all the help i got here earlier
[14:10] <introuble> like yesterday
[14:10] <Whoop> pastebin your menu.lst Jordanmota
[14:10] <introuble> this african linux is really something
[14:10] <introuble> how can they do so good code there in africa?
[14:10] <Jordanmota> Whoop: here's my output of fdisk -l -> http://pastebin.com/d5060b3ac
[14:10] <Jordanmota> Whoop: here's the entry I added to GRUB - http://pastebin.com/d9467e17
[14:10] <tgpraveen> introuble: only  th founder is from africa
[14:10] <tgpraveen> the canonical hq is in london
[14:10] <Alvinware> introuble, lol, it's not from Africa.
[14:10] <Paschu> introuble: not every city in africa is poor
[14:11] <tgpraveen> and the devs are spread acroos the world
[14:11] <introuble> ah the founder onlky in africa
[14:11] <Alvinware> introuble, en.wikipedia.org
[14:11] <introuble> that explains
[14:11] <introuble> yet though i like to call this distro african linux DDDDDDddDD:D::D:d.:D:,DD:d..d:D:.d
[14:12] <introuble> HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAH
[14:12] <KiRiLoS> wtf
[14:12] <introuble> u should rename it!
[14:12] <introuble> african linux
[14:12] <introuble> how kewl would that be?
[14:12] <chilli0> Hello , how can i find out what drivers im using for my wireless ?
[14:12] <Sky[x]> dmesg ?
[14:12] <Sky[x]> !google
[14:13] <Alvinware> chili0, hardware drivers?
[14:13] <Halitech> chilli0, lspci if its an internal card lsusb if its a usb device
[14:13] <chilli0> No , the software drivers.
[14:13]  * introuble set's new topic: african linux
[14:14] <introuble> btw im not in trouble anymore
[14:14] <chilli0> Halitech:  what would the driver be ? , Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 5100 AGN [Shiloh] Network Connection
[14:14] <chilli0> I need to know so i can use it for kismet o=
[14:14] <introuble> as i got things sorted thanks to lovely people in here!
[14:14] <introuble> and due of lovely ubuntu aka african linux
[14:14] <stinkpink> does anyone can tell were 2 find eeepc drivers for xubuntu 9.04? /msg me pls
[14:14] <introuble> who else likes "african linux"?
[14:15] <lstarnes> introuble: it's just called ubuntu, not african linux
[14:15] <Alvinware> introuble, ubuntu is just the name, right?
[14:15] <syntax> LoL
[14:15] <Halitech> chilli0, I would guess an intel driver but I've never set one up so not sure
[14:15] <introuble> heh
[14:15] <introuble> yeaah
[14:16] <chilli0> ok Halitech
[14:16] <introuble> ubuntu
[14:16] <introuble> im loving it <3333333
[14:16] <Alvinware> chili0, you haven't install the driver yet?
[14:16] <stinkpink> mandriva is good as well
[14:16] <masquerade1> allquixotic: it does not work on the last one
[14:17] <chilli0> Alvinware: I didnt have to install anything . it just worked when i got ubuntu o=
[14:17] <Alvinware> chili0, yeah, it already installed, look in hardware drivers.
[14:17] <chilli0> ok.
[14:18] <chilli0> Alvinware:  So System > admin > hardware drivers ?
[14:18] <Cube> bazhang: for all channels. like a global setting
[14:18] <Alvinware> chili0, yes.
[14:19] <chilli0> Alvinware:  there is only two things in there , both are related to nvidia video cards
[14:19] <chilli0> brb
[14:19] <Alvinware> chili0, but the internet work over the wireless connection?
[14:20] <Halitech> Alvinware, if their card worked without having to install anything doesn't that mean they didn't have to install the propreitary drivers?
[14:21] <uuv> I'm trying to install this http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_amd64_185.18.31.html driver, but when i type "sudo sh filename.run", I get a message like this: "sh: Can't open filename.run"
[14:21] <Halitech> uuv, did you cd to the directory where you downloaded the file to?
[14:21] <dementor> hi any one use cacti?
[14:21] <uuv> I think so
[14:21] <Alvinware> Halitech, yeah, that's correct, but if only the propreitary driver have it in linux version.
[14:21] <Halitech> uuv, do an ls and see if the file exists where you are
[14:22] <uuv> Oh, sorry, now i did it correctly
[14:22] <uuv> it's installing now!
[14:22] <uuv> I'll be back for further problems in case (... when) they occur :)
[14:23] <root> how can i disable a compiz effect from the terminal ?
[14:23] <Halitech> Alvinware, I thought you had to agree to install propritary drivers before they were installed?
[14:23] <uuv> How do i turn off the X-server?
[14:23] <Paschu> is there a list of small games i can play in ubuntu without an emulator/simulator?
[14:24] <plovs> uuv, ctr-alt-f1, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[14:24] <uuv> okay, thanks!
[14:24] <Alvinware> Halitech, for me, it automatically look it up for me, and i guess the drivers that installed was quite correct in company name.
[14:25] <Halitech> uuv, press ctrl + alt + F1
[14:25] <Halitech> Alvinware, I just did the same thing with an install of Debian, it found my linksys pcmcia wireless card and loaded the driver so I would say those are not proprietary
[14:26] <Alvinware> Halitech, but in nvidia website, it got quite a lots for the linux, it's depend on the company.
[14:27] <dementor> hi i install amarok but i canot add muzic to him becouse the ntfs partion isd not visible
[14:27] <metatagg> dementor, mount it ? :)
[14:28] <Halitech> Alvinware, Nvidia has pretty good support so it doesn't surprise me that the cards are autodetected
[14:31] <dementor> metatagg: how to mount
[14:31] <Alvinware> Halitech, proprietary or not, look in hardware drivers for each hardware devices, select any of it, bottom display will say the proprietary word in there if it's.
[14:31] <dementor> or how to edut my fstab
[14:31] <trokep> Hi. I'm looking for help with creating a /home partition that will not be affected by ubuntu upgrade.
[14:31] <dementor> edit
[14:31] <Evet> Which is the easiest text editor, under terminal?
[14:32] <uuv> Okay. So i tried installing the drivers, and it said it was succesful, but when i typed "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm/ start" it said it didn't find any drivers and it had to start ubuntu in low resolution mode. How do i fix this?
[14:33] <roc> hey
[14:34] <roc> can anyone tell me how to install the flash player as a *.deb file??
[14:34] <kindofabuzz> Evet, nano
[14:34] <Alvinware> uuv, no nvidia driver in hardware drivers?
[14:34] <uuv> Two, but none of them show as "activated"
[14:35] <uuv> And i've tried activating them, but both of them do the same thing. Start up in low resolution mode
[14:35] <roc> how can i install a *.deb file?
[14:35] <Richi_rich> hello bonek rock
[14:35] <Evet> kindofabuzz, ty
[14:35] <kaini> roc, sudo dpkg -i debfile
[14:36] <Jordanmota> Whoop: any update from reading my pastebin outputs? Or did I miss it (this chat room is so busy!)
[14:36] <alfie> i seem to be having a problem getting the source for 'manpages-posix-dev'. It installs fine, but 'apt-get source manpages-posix-dev' actually tries to get the source for 'manpages-posix' i.e. the normal package, and not the development package. any ideas?
[14:36] <minimec> !flash > roc
[14:36] <Alvinware> uuv, if you got the right one activated, then you should got the nvidia x server settings, have you?
[14:36] <metatagg> !ntfs
[14:36] <uuv> Alvinware: How do I know that?
[14:36] <introuble> hey...
[14:36] <introuble> african linux peeps
[14:37] <introuble> i have a question
[14:37] <Alvinware> uuv, it's in the place that you found hardware drivers, the nvidia x server settings was located.
[14:37] <jefinc> !ask | introuble
[14:38] <uuv> Like, on the web site? Yes, I downloaded some kind of a package.
[14:38] <introuble> i have african linux 9.10 and i have this .iso file and i need to burn it to a cd, how do i ensure that the .iso becomes bootable cd?
[14:38] <uuv> Alvinware: Called "nvidia-xconfig-1.0.tar.gx"
[14:39] <introuble> there is brasero and there is that built in cd/dvd burner
[14:39] <jefinc> introuble: being bootable would already be setup in the .iso
[14:39] <introuble> jefinc, i think that it is setup already in the .iso
[14:39] <uuv> Alvinware: Sorry, gz, not gx of course
[14:39] <roc> minimec: hey... thanks for the info, but the flash player doesnt get installed if i click on the link
[14:39] <roc> apt:flashplugin-installer?section=universe?section=multiverse
[14:39] <roc> thats the link
[14:40] <Alvinware> uuv, you downloaded it?
[14:40] <uuv> yes
[14:40] <jefinc> introuble: simply burning the iso with either of the two apps would work just fine as long as the image is not corrupted
[14:40] <alfie> can anyone else using jaunty confirm they can 'apt-get source manpages-posix-dev' and the -dev package gets downloaded?
[14:40] <Alvinware> uuv, why not activated one of those in the hardware drivers?
[14:40] <dementor> soory my internet conection drop
[14:40] <jefinc> introuble: if you run into problems with 9.10 the support channel for that is #ubuntu+1
[14:40] <uuv> Well, i've tried that before but all of them started in low resolution mode so i thought it was not good
[14:40] <dementor> so i dont now how to mount a ntfs
[14:41] <roc> hey guys
[14:41] <jefinc> dementor: are you running jaunty?
[14:41] <roc> can someone tell me why the new ubuntu is so slow on my acer aspire one?
[14:41] <trokep> How do I create a separate /home partition?
[14:42] <jefinc> !NTFS-3g > dementor
[14:42] <kaini> trokep, before or after installing ubutnu?
[14:42] <minimec> roc: You might have to enable '#' uncomment the universe and multiverse repository in /etc/apt/sources or with synaptic in the <Properties <PackageSources menu.
[14:42] <roc> minimec: ok... thats a bit complicated for me
[14:43] <trokep> kaini, after installing ubuntu
[14:43] <minimec> roc not as complicated as you think
[14:43] <uuv> Alvinware: Well, i've tried that before but all of them started in low resolution mode so i thought it was not good
[14:43] <roc> minimec: i go to synaptic package thing... and then in the properties i user the packagesources and then what?
[14:43] <minimec> !multiverse > roc
[14:44] <kaini> trokep, okay thats a more difficult look here and ask if something is not clear http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome
[14:45] <matiu> My aptitude system got b0rked from a power outage: http://pastebin.ca/1514804
[14:45] <matiu> does anyone know how I can un-bork it ?
[14:45] <Jordan_Bradley> If I were to run "cryptsetup -y --cipher aes-xts-plain --key-size 512 luksFormat /dev/sda1" to encrypt a partition, would AES encrypt the key while XTS encrypts the data? Or the other way around?
[14:45] <roc> minimec: so i have to enable or disable the multiverse thing?
[14:46] <jpastore> Is there a WYSIWYG HTML editor that outputs div's instead of tables?
[14:46] <minimec> roc: enable universe and multiverse... yes.
[14:46] <kaini> jpastore, I guess nvu
[14:46] <roc> minimec: they are already enabled
[14:47] <roc> minimec: its really weird... the whole system is quite slow... though windows xp was running without probles
[14:47] <minimec> roc: reload the package database (button at the left in synaptic)
[14:47] <matiu> jpastore, http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/grids/builder/
[14:49] <Jordan_Bradley> matiu: try running "sudo dpkg -a" I think that's the command.
[14:49] <jpastore> matiu, thanks, I'll check it out.
[14:49] <jpastore> kaini. I'll look into it.
[14:49] <uuv> I tried to install this driver http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_amd64_185.18.31.html, but when I thought it was complete, i tried "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start" and that's when it said that there were no drivers found, and started gnome in low resolution mode. How can I fix this, and get my drivers working properly for Warcraft III? I have a laptop with NVIDIA GeFroce 9300M GS.
[14:49] <matiu> thanks Jordan_Bradley I tried that though :(
[14:49] <roc> minimec: i now did that... he reloaded 42 things...
[14:50] <sinan> i have a problem, all the windows don't have title bars. Any idea?
[14:50] <Halitech> sinan, are you running compiz?
[14:50] <minimec> roc: Try to find the flashplugin-installer with the search button, not with QuickSearch!
[14:50] <sinan> Halitech: I have just uninstalled it and reinstalled it.
[14:51] <Halitech> sinan, I dont use it but look in the settings and there should be something about window decorations, I think that needs to be enabled
[14:51] <trokep> kaini, thanks. I've looked at the article, which looks straightforward.
[14:52] <kaini> uuv, why didn't you use the builtin drivers?
[14:53] <eltume> join channel #linuxmint
[14:53] <uuv> I tried enabling visual effects on desktop and it said i'd need the drivers. Also I though i'd need them if i'd like to play openGL games
[14:53] <roc> minimec: thanks... now i have flash... but why is my computer still so slow??? cant be that windows xp run normal and ubuntu is now so slow...
[14:54] <eltume> hey guys how do I join the linux mint channel from xchat?
[14:54] <Jordan_Bradley> eltume: I'd guess the same way you joined this room.
[14:54] <eltume> jordan it was automatic
[14:55] <hombre>   /j #mint
[14:55] <eltume> I know I have to enter something in here
[14:55] <eltume> thank you hombre
[14:55] <Halitech> eltume, /join #linuxmint
[14:55] <kaini> uuv, system -> system settings -> hardware drvers - sry i dont know the rexact english words
[14:56] <uuv> I've tried that, but it wont work. It only starts in low resolution mode.
[14:56] <eltume> #linux mint is not the official mint channel
[14:56] <falconic_> Hey guys whats the best Virus scanner for Linux ? I want smthing which is command line and I can invoke it on specific files
[14:56] <minimec> roc: It often depends on RAM. 768MB might be a useful minimum iwth default configuration. Also remember, that maybe the tracking software is still filling the file database afte instalation...
[14:56] <grawity> uuv: Does /var/log/Xorg.0.log say anything useful?
[14:56] <falconic_> instead of it running in the background..
[14:56] <eltume> they said it's at irc.spotchat
[14:56] <|dementor|> is this good  for add to my fstab  /dev/sda6 /mnt  ntfs-3g  UUID=42C88856C8884A5D defaults,locale=en_US.utf8 0 0
[14:56] <grawity> falconic_: None. (Or, if you really need, ClamAV.)
[14:56] <kaini> uuv, did you ran an ubuntu update?
[14:57] <grawity> |dementor|: no, the UID=.... part must be on the first column: UUID=42C88856C8884A5D /mnt ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.utf8 0 0
[14:57] <Jordan_Bradley> Does anyone know if the guys that manage luks have an IRC channel?
[14:57] <Halitech> eltume, then you will need to connect to the server at irc.spotchat
[14:57] <eltume> don't get clamav get clamtk it's a GUI front-end for clamav
[14:57] <falconic_> @grawity : are there no virus scanner for linux?
[14:57] <roc> minimec: aha... i think this computer only has 512 ram... but that it goes then so slow i didnt knew... i always experienced ubuntu as much resource frindlier...
[14:57] <grawity> falconic_: ClamAV is one.
[14:57] <eltume> Halitech I tried to
[14:57] <|dementor|> :)
[14:57] <|dementor|> il try
[14:57] <grawity> falconic_: But on Linux, viruses are very rare.
[14:57] <Halitech> eltume, do you know if its .net .com .org?
[14:57] <uuv> grawity: how do i access  that file?
[14:58] <eltume> Halitech, here's the quote: "* Now talking on ##linuxmint
[14:58] <eltume> * Topic for ##linuxmint is: Welcome to ##linuxmint the "Unofficial" linux mint channel. For the official channel join the irc.spotchat.org server | Forum : http://www.linuxmint.com/forum | Wiki : http://www.linuxmint.com/wiki | Web site : http://www.linuxmint.com
[14:58] <eltume> * Topic for ##linuxmint set by Bodsda at Thu Jan  8 19:37:15 2009"
[14:58] <FloodBot2> eltume: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:58] <eltume> ok
[14:58] <falconic_> @grawity.. let me try Clam AV then
[14:58] <falconic_> thanks
[14:58] <minimec> roc: It basically is, but in default ubuntu configuration you have the 3D Desktop running and tracker software activated by default. You will have to tune your desktop a bit to save RAM ;)
[14:59] <Halitech> eltume, so you would need to add a server for irc.spotchat.org and then you should be able to connect to their room
[14:59] <roc> minimec: no but i have the netbook version... it has no 3d things and also all effects are off... thats why im a bit wondering
[15:00] <minimec> roc: What kind of machine is that?
[15:00] <roc> minimec: acer aspire one...
[15:01] <eltume> when I add it to the network list I get nothing NADA ZERO ZILCH
[15:01] <minimec> ok. I guess you will find a lot of information about running ubuntu on that machine. Keep an eye on google ;)
[15:01] <Alvinware> I can't change the nvidia x server setting, once i applied, the next restart, it come back to the auto.
[15:01] <ikonia> Alvinware: the xserver is nothing to do with nvidia, it's xorg
[15:02] <roc> minimec: yes i googled already a lot... but it is really weird
[15:02] <roc> minimec: maybe i should perform an actualization...
[15:02] <uuv> grawity: here's my x0rg.log http://paste.ubuntu.com/241807/
[15:02] <vaysu> hai can anyone please help me with configuring pidgin to use yahoo...
[15:03] <heff> Hi there
[15:03] <grawity> mv ../*.png .
[15:03] <minimec> roc: Yeah... I have seen kde4 on an aspire one once. That was looking good and quiet fast.
[15:03] <vaysu> hi
[15:03] <grawity> Whoops, wrong window.
[15:03] <introuble> jefinc, thanks
[15:04] <heff> Can you have more then 2 desktops on hardy heron
[15:04] <|dementor|> grawity:  no look whit ntfs
[15:04] <|dementor|> i cant mount
[15:04] <Alvinware> ikonia, in the nvidia x server settings, how can i successfully change those value, and apply it?
[15:04] <grawity> |dementor|: why?
[15:04] <jefinc> introuble: no problem :)
[15:04] <|dementor|> dount now
[15:04] <uuv> I tried to install this driver http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_amd64_185.18.31.html, but when I thought it was complete, i tried "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start" and that's when it said that there were no drivers found, and started gnome in low resolution mode. How can I fix this, and get my drivers working properly for Warcraft III? I have a laptop with NVIDIA GeFroce 9300M GS. Here's my xorg.0.log http://paste.ubuntu.com/241807/
[15:04] <arjan> leave #ubuntu
[15:04] <minimec> heff: Do you mean desktop like screens, or desktop like workspaces on a screen.
[15:05] <heff> like screens
[15:05] <kaini> uuv, please nopaste your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[15:05] <ikonia> uuv: why ? ubuntu provides nvidia xorg module support through the "Driver Manager" application ?
[15:05] <heff> if I press control alt and right arrow it only shows 2 screens it used to show 4
[15:05] <vaysu> hai can anyone please help me with configuring pidgin to use yahoo...
[15:05] <ikonia> uuv: using the drivers from the nvidia.com site may introduce compatability issues
[15:05] <vaysu> hai can anyone please help me with configuring pidgin to use yahoo...
[15:06] <uuv> ikonia: I tried the drivers from hardware drivers before, but they produced similar results -> low resolution mode
[15:06] <burkmat> Situation: Box1 is connected to a TV, through VGA, just logged in to a normal gnome session (basically clean install and logged in). How would I, from laptop, SSH into Box1 and play a movie on the logged in session?
[15:06] <Xpistos1> vaysu: is it not enableing?
[15:06] <ikonia> vaysu: asking every 5 seconds won't get you far, ask your question and wait for a response, if you con't get a response wait a while then try again
[15:06] <ikonia> uuv: what video card
[15:06] <bazhang> http://tinyurl.com/pidgin-yahoo vaysu
[15:06] <Xpistos1> vaysu: If so, take the @yahoo out of the account
[15:06] <disaster12> does the ATI HDTV card work in linux
[15:06] <vaysu> noh sorry
[15:06] <uuv> ikonia: NVIDIA GeFroce 9300M GS
[15:06] <vaysu> please can u help
[15:06] <disaster12> im trying to get it too work
[15:06] <ikonia> uuv: is that card supported, and if so in what nvidia module versions ?
[15:06] <minimec> heff: Technically with the x-server there is no problem. The problem starts with the GPU. How would you load the ati and the nvidia kernel modules at the sme time. There are probably ways to achieve that with openSource drivers.
[15:06] <erUSUL> vaysu: what have you tried and what is failing? it should be easy ?
[15:07] <uuv> ikonia: How can I look both of those up? I think it is supported
[15:07] <grawity> erUSUL: Recent Pidgin versions (except the newest one) had problems with connecting to Yahoo.
[15:07] <ikonia> uuv: why do you "think" it's supported if you've not checked ?
[15:07] <grawity> erUSUL: I guess he needs to upgrade from PPA
[15:07] <ikonia> uuv: use google, the ubuntu wiki and the nvidia website to find out what is supported by what versions
[15:07] <erUSUL> grawity: vaysu i remember... yahoo changed the perotocol...
[15:07] <heff> ok thanks
[15:08] <vaysu> which protocol
[15:08] <ikonia> vaysu: the yahoo protocol
[15:08] <akash> Hi I am a newbie,recently install Kubuntu (Jaunty ver).From then "top" shows more than 80% utilization very frequently
[15:08] <minimec> heff: ... or you have a nvidia AGP and an old nvidia PCI. The AGP uses the 180 nvidia driver. The other one an older driver ...
[15:08] <grawity> !yahoo
[15:08] <ikonia> akash: I wouldn't worry about that
[15:09] <erUSUL> vaysu: you need a newer version of pidgin;
[15:09] <burkmat> Situation: Box1 is connected to a TV, through VGA, just logged in to a normal gnome session (basically clean install and logged in). How would I, from laptop, SSH into Box1 and play a movie on the logged in session?
[15:09] <akash> I suspect , what may be the reason.the culprit are Xorg and Plasma
[15:09] <vaysu> i am having pidgin 2.2.1
[15:09] <ikonia> burkmat: you'd have to connect to that box via SSH with X11 forwarding enabled, then set the DISPLAY variable to the Xserver on the box plugged into the TV and launch the movie
[15:10] <grawity> vaysu: That's very old
[15:10] <burkmat> ikonia, Excellent, thank you!
[15:10] <vaysu> ok then i will try to upgrade.then yahoo will work or not
[15:10] <bazhang> vaysu, check the link I gave you
[15:11] <erUSUL> vaysu: what version of ubuntu do you run ?
[15:11] <introuble> hey...
[15:11] <vaysu> yea i am checking.taht link
[15:11] <inx-live> hi introuble
[15:11] <client03> nbgh
[15:11] <vaysu> gusty gibbon
[15:11] <Jordan_Bradley> If I were to run "cryptsetup -y --cipher aes-xts-plain --key-size 512 luksFormat /dev/sda1" to encrypt a partition, would AES encrypt the key while XTS encrypts the data? Or the other way around?
[15:11] <akash> Pls,lot of experts are present.Will anybody knows the solution?
[15:11] <introuble>  what to do? brasero does not recognize empty cd nor the drive when the cd is in?
[15:11] <grawity> O_o
[15:11] <ikonia> vaysu: ubuntu 7.10 has been end of lifed, you would be wise to upgrade to a supported version
[15:11] <bazhang> akash, to what
[15:12] <akash> High CPU usage of Xorg and Plasma in Jaunty Version
[15:12] <ikonia> introuble: does anything else recognise a cd in it
[15:12] <bazhang> akash, kde4?
[15:12] <vaysu> ok thanks for all
[15:12] <akash> Yup
[15:12] <bazhang> akash, turn of desktop effects?
[15:12] <jungle> hi to the room i have a problem
[15:12] <introuble> ikonia, no ubuntu either, but when i take the cd off then ubuntu sees the empty drive
[15:13] <akash> Please how should i do it?
[15:13] <ikonia> introuble: ok - so the problem is the drive, not the application
[15:13] <ikonia> introuble: either the drive or the cd has a problem
[15:13] <bazhang> introuble, try another app? gnomebaker or k3b?
[15:13] <introuble> ikonia, im on live cd 9.10 install, can i remove the live cd and use that drive to burn while using the live install?
[15:13] <ikonia> introuble: no
[15:13] <llml> Anyone suffering from laggy unstable vmware infrastructure web access like me? are there alternative ways of access?
[15:13] <erUSUL> vaysu: https://launchpad.net/~pidgin-developers/+archive/ppa
[15:13] <introuble> ok
[15:13] <bazhang> introuble, #ubuntu+1 for karmic
[15:14] <bazhang> llml, virtualbox?
[15:14] <llml> bazhang: yep!
[15:14] <vaysu> tnaks for lins now i am checking that links
[15:14] <tae> hi i am new to ubuntu, i just installed it, my touchscreen stopped working well. i use wacom drivers, i cannot touch the edges of my screen, i  can touch the center
[15:14] <tae> i look in mailinglist but cannot find any help
[15:15] <inx-live> tae, just curious - what kind of computer?
[15:15] <tae> thinkpad
[15:15] <lancelot> acer
[15:15] <lancelot> :F
[15:15] <lancelot> D
[15:15] <llml> bazhang: do you have a solution about it?
[15:15] <tae> inx-live: i did not have this problem on debian. just started now, i install jaunty
[15:16] <bazhang> llml, using virtualbox? do you need usb support or not
[15:16] <inx-live> tae, which version of debian was that?
[15:16] <tae> it worked in lenny
[15:16] <llml> bazhang: no need, i just wanna add virtual cdrom support in order to install solaris 10 on it
[15:16] <minimec> tae: I guess the touchpad has a different resolution as the screen. You may have to configure that in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, as your touchscreen is identified as a simple InputDevice... like a mouse ;)
[15:17] <llml> bazhang: of course, hosted in ubuntu
[15:17] <uuv> ikonia: Well, my video card doesn't list here, so it isn't supported? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCardsNvidia
[15:17] <tae> minimec: that makes sense, it is almost like touchscreen area is 800x600 and test is 1024x768
[15:17] <bullgard4> [Ubuntu 9.04] GNOME > System > 'Einstellungen'/'Preferences' > Sounds > Sound Preferences > Sounds > listet auf 'Sound Theme=Ubuntu'. Wo ist dieses Theme to be found?
[15:17] <llml> bazhang: you are chinese?
[15:17] <akash> bazhang: how should I turned off desktop effect
[15:17] <ikonia> uuv: so that would indicate no support with the version shipped with ubuntu
[15:17] <bazhang> llml, well virtualbox-ose is in the repos; you can install from synaptic or sudo apt-get install virtualbox-ose (be sure to get the additions and proper kernel headers for it as well)
[15:17] <tae> minimec: how do i find the correct settings for xorg.conf
[15:18] <minimec> tae: If you had that Lenny xorg.conf for a start... ;)
[15:18] <tae> i dont :(
[15:18] <bazhang> llml, should be called guest additions iirc
[15:18] <tae> minimec: i only saved my /home/
[15:18] <uuv> ikonia: Okay. So, how could i return my system to the point before, where (almost) everything worked except openGL games and desktop effects?
[15:18] <tae> minimec: next time i will save /etc/ too ;)
[15:18] <bazhang> akash, not sure as I am not logged into kde4 at the moment, perhaps in #kubuntu they can answer
[15:19] <llml> bazhang: ah, thanks, i'm checking it out. guest additions?
[15:19] <ikonia> uuv: that's going to be hard as you've installed 3rd part unsupported modules over the top
[15:19] <akash> Thanks man I should approach to #kubuntu channel
[15:19] <Landtat> Mornin folks
[15:19] <DexterF> hi
[15:19] <tae> 	Option          "TopX"        "100"
[15:19] <bazhang> llml, I think that is it, vbox will warn you if you have not installed them
[15:19] <tae> and 	Option          "BottomX"     "14000"
[15:19] <minimec> tae: google around a bit 'your hardware' 'lenny' or 'jaunty' xorg.conf
[15:19] <DexterF> off-topic, dunno where to ask: for gigabit ethernet I need at least CAT5e, right?
[15:19] <tae> but i do not know how to configure, i will google, thanks
[15:19] <Landtat> how about the bios bug 8254?
[15:20] <Landtat> is there a work around?
[15:20] <bazhang> Landtat, hardware?
[15:20] <inx-live> Are there are any channels for CLI ubuntu install?
[15:20] <userone> can anyone help with an 'unstable' usb external hdd. I have checked the forums and can only find solutions for mounting problems. My external hdd is mounted (no problems in fdisk -l, gconf-editor, dmesg | tail) but when I try to open a file ubuntu says 'media not found, check spelling', the icon disappears from my desktop and 1 minute later reappears?
[15:20] <bazhang> inx-live, here
[15:20] <Landtat> amd x2 3800
[15:20] <uuv> ikonia: Would it just be easier to format the drive and reinstall ubuntu? :s
[15:20] <Landtat> nvidea sys
[15:20] <ikonia> uuv: probably,
[15:20] <bazhang> Landtat, that is a hardware issue?
[15:20] <uuv> Okay, I think i'll do that then
[15:21] <Landtat> I think so
[15:21] <inx-live> bazhang: cool!
[15:21] <uuv> thanks.
[15:21] <llml> bazhang: 22:19 < tae> and IOption          "BottomX"     "14000"
[15:21] <Landtat> maybe my bios needs an update?
[15:21] <llml> sorry
[15:21] <Landtat> it's the "timer not connected" mess
[15:22] <Landtat> which I think is causing my sata hdd not being recognized
[15:22] <bazhang> Landtat, so its hardware? maybe try ##hardware
[15:22] <Landtat> I've checked countless forums but no solution
[15:22] <Landtat> yeah  hardware
[15:23] <joltzy> hello! what do I need to play encrypted DVD's in Mplayer?
[15:23] <Landtat> alot of peeps with x2 and nvidia based mobos having the same issue
[15:23] <Cube_> how do i check my internal ip?
[15:23] <Cube_> whats the command for that?
[15:23] <kaini> Cube, ifconfig
[15:23] <inx-live> joltzy: dvdcss
[15:23] <Halitech> Cube, sudo ifconfig
[15:23] <bazhang> !dvd | joltzy
[15:23] <Cube_> kaini: Halitech: perfact thanks
[15:24] <DasEi> joltzy: libdvdcss or use vlc-placer
[15:24]  * Landtat is confuseld
[15:24] <Halitech> joltzy, sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2 after you enable the medibuntu repo
[15:24] <joltzy> DasEi: ok thx
[15:24] <joltzy> Halitech: thank you
[15:25] <userone> any ideas on the 'unstable' usb external hdd?
[15:25] <Halitech> userone, dying hard drive?
[15:25] <Cube_> ok im trying to access folders from my vista system over LAN, i set up a SMB share on my ubuntu netbook, but windows keeps saying it doesnt have the necessary permissions, although i set it to "everybody can access". any ideas?
[15:26] <erUSUL> userone: checked the logs for messages of the kernel ?
[15:26] <userone> Halitech, it could be, but how do I get my files off the hdd (preferable without having to go back to windows)
[15:26] <xubuntu> ting ting
[15:27] <xubuntu> when love takes over
[15:27] <xubuntu> yeah yeah
[15:27] <Halitech> userone, if the drive is dying it shouldn't matter if you are in windows or ubuntu, its going to be unstable and hard to get files off it ... you could try the hard drive in the freezer trick, worked for me recently
[15:27] <xubuntu> a question about ubuntu juice
[15:27] <disaster12> i used to do the freezer trick all the time
[15:27] <inx-live> Halitech: hard drive in the freezer?  Please explain
[15:27]  * metatagg is away: Zzzzzzzzzz.... 
[15:28] <userone> haltech, interesting! what is the trick? stick it in the frezer (for how long?) and then what happens?
[15:28] <disaster12> put it in a sealed back
[15:28] <disaster12> i always did over night
[15:28] <inx-live> Halitech disaster12 : what's the theory behind that?
[15:29] <Halitech> inx-live, userone put it in a good sealed bag (Like a ziplock bag) for at least 12 hours and then when you take it out, wait for about 30 minutes and hook it up to your system and cross your fingers that it works
[15:29]  * inx-live writes note about freezer trick
[15:30] <ante_> Any idea why mod_mono is ignoring the DirectoryIndex and loads the default web site instead? Typing the full url works, however...
[15:30] <Halitech> inx-live, I'm not sure why it works but I read about it years ago and was always pessimistic about it working until I tried it recently and it does, not always for good but should be long enough to get data off
[15:31] <vikash> somebody help me out please
[15:31] <vikash> i am not getting sound on my laptop
[15:31] <inx-live> Halitech: never had to try it yet, but now I will know what to do :)  Thanks for the tip!
[15:31] <userone> halitech, ok i will try that, the hdd is less than 2 years old, so still under warranty, so once I get my files off it I will send it back
[15:32] <vikash>  i have compaq cq45 205au laptop
[15:32] <tavi_> hy
[15:32] <tzd> hi everyone! How do i get sound via optical toslink cable please? I've got an Asus p5n-d mb with builtin realtek HD sound. It works flawless in win but i prefer to use linux but i can't get any sound at all. I works with analog but not digital.
[15:32] <tavi_> i have counter strike source
[15:32] <vikash> i installed ubuntu 9
[15:32] <tavi_> and i have the icon on desktop
[15:32] <bullgard4> [Ubuntu 9.04] GNOME > System > Preferences > Sounds > Sound Preferences > Sounds lists 'Sound Theme=Ubuntu'. Where is a description of this Theme to be found?
[15:32] <vikash> but i am not getting sound
[15:32] <tavi_> but don't wanna start
[15:32] <Halitech> inx-live, userone if you have some of those little humidity packets that come with new drives, etc, kicking around, pop a few of them in the bag as well to suck up any moisture
[15:32] <vikash> help??
[15:32] <tavi_> what i can do
[15:32] <tavi_> ?
[15:32] <vagamente> hi all... anyone can help me installing mailman?
[15:33] <userone> halitech, are you psychic? I was just thinking of asking that!!?????
[15:33] <vikash> tavi : i ma not getting osund
[15:33] <vikash> sound
[15:33] <tavi_> ?
[15:33] <Halitech> userone, no but I wish I was ~L~
[15:33] <tavi_> someone
[15:33] <tavi_> ?
[15:33] <vikash> compaq cq45 205au
[15:33] <Halitech> !patience | vikash, tavi_
[15:34] <vikash> ubottu, can you help me with tha
[15:34] <vikash> i installed ubuntu 9
[15:34] <tavi_> hey
[15:34] <vikash> but i ma not getting sound
[15:34] <tavi_> i have a counter strike source
[15:34] <Halitech> !sound | vikash,
[15:34] <Micheil> hey, um, is it possible to totally remove ruby and all rubygems, and not affect the core of ubuntu?
[15:34] <tavi_> and i have an icon on desktop
[15:34] <tavi_> and don't wanna start
[15:35] <inx-live> bullgard4: system preference sound
[15:35] <dougl> linus_gates, - lol
[15:35] <inx-live> bullgard4: choose the next tab
[15:35] <userone> halitech, thanks for your suggestion. I will try it. bye
[15:35] <Halitech> tavi_, try running the command to start the game from the command line and see what messages you get
[15:35] <vikash> double cilcking volume control mute it
[15:35] <Halitech> userone, np and I hope it works for you
[15:35] <vikash> and then again double click unmute it
[15:36] <tavi_> Halitech: don't know how
[15:36] <minimec> vikash: Found that ... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1092141 and then that http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1073090 . MAy be that works.
[15:36] <linus_gates> sorry :p
[15:36] <Halitech> tavi_, open a terminal and then run the command to start the game
[15:37] <linus_gates> i make a versus with bill_torvalds in #ubuntu-fr ^^
[15:37] <zopiac> i am new to compiling and am getting this error when trying to configure: http://pastebin.org/5756
[15:37] <bullgard4> inx-live: In the 'Sound preferences' dialog there are only 2 tabs. There is none following 'Sounds'.
[15:37] <tavi_> i don;t knwo what's the command
[15:37] <minimec> vikash: http://www.mail-archive.com/ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com/msg1275208.html
[15:37] <Micheil> um, yeah, I know removing ruby and rubygems sounds extreme, but it's because they've become rather corrupted
[15:37] <Halitech> tavi_, check the preferences to the icon and see what it says
[15:38] <jrib> !compile > zopiac
[15:38] <inx-live> bullgard4: were you looking for a description or wanting to enable it?
[15:38] <aksci> tavi_: how did you managed to get the icon on the desktop? how did you install cs-source?
[15:38] <jrib> zopiac: you need build-essential
[15:38] <vikash> minimec there is no sound file in modeprob.d
[15:38] <zopiac> ok, thanks
[15:38] <tavi_> desktop configuration file
[15:38] <tavi_> i installed whit wine
[15:38] <bullgard4> inx-live: I am looking for a description (a kind of manual).
[15:38] <tavi_> and i double clicked on installer
[15:38] <tavi_> started
[15:39] <tavi_> and now i have an icon on  desktop
[15:39] <aksci> tavi_: k! so what's the error you getting once you click the icon?
[15:39] <tavi_> nothing
[15:39] <minimec> vikash: You can add one yourself. It will be used when booting next time.
[15:40] <tavi_> i double click nothing
[15:40] <lancelot> hi
[15:40] <inx-live> bullgard4: perhaps the ubuntu wiki - sound section?
[15:40] <introuble> karmic is such a bitch
[15:40] <bullgard4> inx-live: Ok. Thank you.
[15:41] <lancelot> i have two sound card i want to close onboard one how can i do this pls help
[15:41] <kaini> tavi_, do you see the steam icon in the notification area?
[15:41] <lancelot> i have no sound
[15:42] <minimec> lancelot: You should have an option in the BIOS settings to disable the onboard sound card.
[15:42] <lancelot> thx i ll try
[15:42] <Micheil> does anyone have any idea about that question I asked?
[15:42] <tavi_> kaini?
[15:42] <tavi_> what notification icon
[15:42] <tavi_> ?
[15:42] <kaini> tavi_, if you play css in Windows you have to open steam, right?
[15:43] <tavi_> no necesary
[15:43] <tavi_> not
[15:43] <tavi_> is a torrent file
[15:43] <tavi_> :)
[15:43] <inx-live> minimec: Quick sound question - have a Gateway Profile 5 - built in speakers on the front would not work - what are teh built-in speakers usually referred to as in alsamixer?
[15:43] <FloodBot2> tavi_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:43] <vikash> minimec, the description of alsa-base.conf file doesn't match with mine
[15:43] <tavi_> or is a non steam
[15:43] <kaini> tavi_, Oh, ok than I guess I can't help
[15:43] <kaini> Official CSS is steam
[15:43] <tavi_> don't know
[15:43] <kaini> And that workes for me :P
[15:44] <tavi_> i am not a counter strike knower
[15:44] <tavi_> ?
[15:44] <Micheil> Is it possible to totally remove ruby and all rubygems, and not affect the core of ubuntu?
[15:44] <tavi_> kaini
[15:44] <tavi_> ?
[15:44] <minimec> inx-live: 'Speaker', I guess...
[15:44] <kaini> Micheil, gem list and uninstall them?
[15:44] <Micheil> kaini: they're installed in non standard locations, so that doesn't appear to work
[15:44] <kaini> tavi_, what?
[15:45] <kaini> Micheil, and you don't know the locations anymore?
[15:45] <inx-live> minimec: thanks  :)
[15:45] <Micheil> no
[15:45] <vikash> minimec, i have amd chipset and they are asking me to add line which has intel word
[15:45] <tavi_> what workes for you?
[15:45] <Micheil> although, I do know that if I removed all of ruby and rubygems, then reinstalled them, it'd fix the problem
[15:45] <solexious> Whats the best way to just return the title of a webpage from the commandline?
[15:45] <kaini> tavi_, CSS with steam
[15:45] <Micheil> kaini: ^^
[15:45] <tavi_> :)
[15:45] <kaini> Micheil, um let me try something^^
[15:46] <Hydrid> alt-ctrl-delete = Alt + SysR(Print) + K
[15:46] <Hydrid> ?
[15:46] <inx-live> solexious: that's an interesting question...
[15:46] <minimec> vikash: I see. So HP/Compaq are using different sound chips in the same model range ;) I guess I can't help you further.
[15:46] <tavi_> maibe works whit resstart
[15:46] <tavi_> restart
[15:46] <Micheil> kaini: what, you have a box there you can test that on?
[15:47] <vikash> minimec , anyways thanks
[15:47] <Hydrid> ?
[15:47] <kaini> Micheil, i think you can do `find / -iname '*gems*'` and find the locations that way.
[15:47] <inx-live> solexious: I don't have an answer, but am curious what you are trying to do...
[15:48] <kuba_> hey
[15:49] <tae> minimec: hi again, i got it fixed. :) thank you for your help.
[15:49] <solexious> inx-live, Pull the name of an item from barcodepedia.com, the site doesnt have an api, but it is easy to craft a url that searches for an items bardoce, and the name of the item is in the title section of the returned page
[15:49] <antonio_> hi all
[15:49] <minimec> tae: no problem. ;)
[15:50] <antonio_> does anybody configured a leaxmark x83 with jaunty?
[15:50] <inx-live> solexious: maybe a little grep wizardry would help?
[15:50] <solexious> inx-live, I'm googleing it now
[15:51] <Halitech> antonio_, nope ... http://openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Lexmark-X83
[15:52] <root> hi
[15:52] <inx-live> solexious: I had never heard of barcodepedia before...
[15:52] <netsurf3> hey i've been getting a problem in jaunty (which didnt appear to be in LTS) where heavy I/O load causes periodic lockups. This is using an encrypted hard disk mind, but that isnt an excuse in my opinion to lock up the interface and mouse pointer for seconds at a time!
[15:53] <antonio_> ok, do you think that installing the win driver can it be used with wine?
[15:53] <Hydrid> alt-ctrl-delete = Alt + SysR(Print) + K OR Alt+SysRq only  ??? is this right???
[15:53] <Halitech> antonio_, no
[15:53] <jrib> Hydrid: no
[15:53] <antonio_> ok, bad news, but thx
[15:53] <Halitech> antonio_, WINE doesn't touch the hardware
[15:53] <xtianreu> hello
[15:54] <antonio_> I immagine
[15:54] <jrib> !dontzap | Hydrid
[15:54] <tavi_> home/tavi/.wine" wine "C:\Program Files\Counter-Strike Source\hl2.exe" -nomaster -game cstrike -nojoy
[15:54] <xtianreu> I need help to determine the root password for ubuntu.
[15:54] <jrib> !root | xtianreu
[15:54] <grawity> xtianreu: In short, there's none.
[15:54] <tavi_> this is the command at right click properties launcher
[15:55] <antonio_> one more question, is there a way to remote control a win pc from ubuntu? any tool for that?
[15:55] <masquerade1> antonio_: vnc
[15:55] <Guest46294> hey i can't login as a root
[15:55] <xtianreu> it wont allow me to download something unless I key in a password
[15:55] <lancelot> sudo
[15:55] <jrib> !root | Guest46294
[15:55] <grawity> antonio_: If the Windows PC has 'Remote Desktop' enabled, you could use 'rdesktop' (or 'tsclient').
[15:55] <grawity> xtianreu: Ubuntu asks for _your_ password.
[15:55] <jrib> xtianreu: what won't?
[15:55] <inx-live> solexious: at #bash they might guide you in a script with grep..
[15:55] <grawity> xtianreu: That's how "sudo" works. You need to enter your own password.
[15:56] <Guest46294> k yhanx dude
[15:56] <thiebaude> xtianreu, didn't you setup a password when you installed ubuntu?
[15:56] <antonio_> fine that grawity
[15:56] <js__> Hi, I am trying to set-up an internal dns server and I get  ** server can't find google.com: NXDOMAIN
[15:57] <js__> when searching for google.com
[15:57] <js__> I have tried this using a windows pc and get the same response
[15:57] <xtianreu> so the root password is sudo?
[15:57] <grawity> xtianreu: No.
[15:57] <Halitech> antonio_, you could also use Log Me In if its a system you will be connecting to alot
[15:57] <grawity> xtianreu: It asks for your own password.
[15:58] <xtianreu> ok so I have to key in a password?
[15:58] <js__> However it works for local domains
[15:58] <thiebaude> xtianreu, yes
[15:58] <antonio_> ok, thanx guys for the answers
[15:58] <js__> * domains which it is master for
[15:58] <xtianreu> its not liking it
[15:58] <vikash> minimec, hi my sound problem is solved
[15:58] <grawity> xtianreu: What command are you using?
[15:58] <vikash> how to read card reader
[15:58] <minimec> vikash: Cool ;)
[15:58] <PerryArmstrong> any idea which is the best server whether it is LDAP or DNS or any other type...The requirements are: 1. Manage internet connection to clients  2. Block certain websites   3. Provide easy package updations from server to clients   4. file transfers    5. if possible secure every users files, which is one of the features of LDAP...but LDAP is in development stage
[15:59] <vikash> minimec, i have card reader .. i inserted a microsd card
[15:59] <xtianreu> i dont know what command to use
[15:59] <vikash> minimec, how can i read that
[15:59] <xtianreu> im sorry im really new with this ubuntu thing
[15:59] <grawity> PerryArmstrong: "LDAP is in development stage"? Where did you find that?
[15:59] <grawity> xtianreu: When you turn your computer on, does it ask you for a password?
[15:59] <Jordanmota> I need some help with editing my GRUB. I added an entry for windows 7 but it won't boot (says it's invalid).
[16:00] <xtianreu> nope
[16:00] <john4654> Hello  This is my first go with IRC!
[16:00] <Tecna> Is it possible to convert an ext3 partition to ext4 without losing data?
[16:00] <john4654> It works
[16:00] <inx-live> hi john4654 !
[16:00] <grawity> john4654: Welcome to Freenode :)
[16:00] <minimec> vikash: That should do out of the box. Is an internal card reader?
[16:00] <thiebaude> xtianreu, how about when you log-in?
[16:00] <jrib> Tecna: yes, though you should have backups
[16:00] <xtianreu> not at all
[16:00] <PerryArmstrong> grawity; i gave the task to my team members who are to assist me in setting up an efficient server...but they reported me that LDAP is in development stage
[16:00] <xtianreu> no password
[16:00] <thiebaude> xtianreu, or do you have automatic log-in?
[16:00] <xtianreu> i have automatic log in
[16:00] <inx-live> john4654: what program are you using for IRC?
[16:00] <Tecna> thnx jribs
[16:01] <vikash> minimec, right i just put my card in adapter and put that in internal card reader
[16:01] <grawity> PerryArmstrong: LDAP is very widely used - even Microsoft's Active Directory is based on LDAP and Kerberos standards.
[16:01] <Robin_> hi guy
[16:01] <Robin_> i got a error 0%   ie55sp2_9x.zip!! An error ocurred when downloading. Please run IEs4Linux again. Corrupted file: ie55sp2_9x.zip
[16:01] <PerryArmstrong> grawity; so LDAP is the best choice for all this??
[16:02] <kuba_> hey
[16:02] <grawity> PerryArmstrong: First, what do you mean by "all this"?
[16:02] <Robin_> when trying to install ie4linux xan anyone help!!!!!
[16:02] <PerryArmstrong> grawity; according to the requirements i specified
[16:03] <jrib> Robin_: try #winehq
[16:03] <Robin_> kk tanks
[16:04] <inx-live> ice_cream!  yummy
[16:04] <minimec> vikash: If you are using the gnome desktop, that should open you the nautilus file manager with the content of the microSD. You should see an Icon in the left part of the nautilus filemanager (if not, press F9).
[16:04] <RaceCondition> why can't I see 9.04 at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/jeos/?
[16:04] <bk2weezy> Hi i'm new to this but I have a problem with brasero it read my cd but not the dvd disc
[16:05] <RaceCondition> or should I just download the regular 9.04 server image and it has the option to install for a VM?
[16:05] <solexious> Will adding a drive to a mdadm array go quicker if i unmount the drive?
[16:05] <xtianreu> I hate ubuntu. it's not user friendly..
[16:05] <vikash> minimec, i am using gnome, pressing f9 is not working
[16:05] <grawity> xtianreu: It is more user-friendly than most other Linux distros.
[16:05] <xtianreu> I have many issues handling this software. :(
[16:06] <jrib> xtianreu: what's one of them?  Maybe we can help you
[16:06] <grawity> jrib: He needs to enter a password for sudo.
[16:06] <jrib> xtianreu: have you read through help.ubuntu.com to get you acquainted with the operating system?
[16:06] <xtianreu> i cant download anything out of the web like adobe softwares. It's asking for the root password which I havent set up
[16:07] <minimec> vikash: open a console (gnome-terminal) and type dmesg in it. Check if you see any suspicious error messages...
[16:07] <jrib> xtianreu: ok.  When you say "it" asks you for a passowrd, how exactly are you trying to install adobe's software?  And what software exactly?
[16:07] <xtianreu> flash player
[16:07] <jiohdi> xtian, go to system / admin / users and groups, and you can set up the password there
[16:07] <xtianreu> and photoshop
[16:07] <jrib> xtianreu: can you open a terminal and tell me the output of the following command: « uname -m »
[16:07] <xtianreu> it cant even set up the codec for dvd to play it
[16:07] <jrib> xtianreu: one thing at a time
[16:08] <Hydrid> well ubottu it does closes everything and after it stacks the hole computer the alt-sysrq-k
[16:08] <Micheil> okay, as crazy as this sounds, you can actually completely remove all ruby's installed files
[16:08] <jrib> Hydrid: ubottu is a bot
[16:08] <vikash> hi guys i am getting following error messages when i put microsd card
[16:08] <Hydrid> oups :P
[16:08] <PerryArmstrong> grawity; so what do you say about it
[16:08] <vikash> error 84 and 110 whilst inintialising sd card
[16:09] <jrib> !who | xtianreu
[16:09] <Hydrid> then can someone help
[16:09] <vikash> minimec, i am getting 84 and 110 error
[16:09] <jrib> Hydrid: just ask your question
[16:09] <vikash> minimec, whilst initializing
[16:09] <inx-live> !tab
[16:09] <Hydrid> is there anything similar to alt-atrl-del
[16:10] <jrib> Hydrid: System -> Administration -> System Monitor
[16:10] <Hydrid> if everything is stack
[16:10] <Hydrid> ?
[16:10] <jrib> Hydrid: what does "stack" mean?
[16:10] <Hydrid> is there any combination of keys?
[16:10] <minimec> vikash: So it looks, that the reader is not recognized properly.
[16:10] <Hydrid> nothing can move
[16:10] <xtianreu> Im getting a system policy prevents modifying the user configuration message right after I pressed OK
[16:10] <Hydrid> no mouse no nothing
[16:11] <jiohdi> hybrid, you can add system monitor to one of your panels, then just clicking on it will bring up the system monitor
[16:11] <inx-live> Hydrid: is one particular program causing this?
[16:11] <benc> I have a server that created a user with the server name. How can I find out the password of that user?
[16:11] <jrib> Hydrid: not by default.  You can set one up.  If your X is frozen though, that won't help.  In that case, you want to do ctrl-alt-f1 and use the terminal there
[16:11] <js__> I have set-up DNS forwarding and it does not work I am using ubuntu server 9.04
[16:11] <Hydrid> thanks jrib
[16:11] <Hydrid> thats what i wanted
[16:11] <DasEi> benc: sudo passwd <username>  lets you set any
[16:11] <Hydrid> so with ctrl-alt-f1 i have terminal
[16:11] <jrib> xtianreu: It's impossible to help you if you do not answer questions.  Also please use my nick if you reply to what I say
[16:12] <vikash> minmec, so what can i do now
[16:12] <benc> DasEi: will it tell me the old password?
[16:12] <Hydrid> so from there i can restart things
[16:12] <DasEi> benc: no
[16:12] <jrib> Hydrid: sure, ctrl-alt-f7 brings you back to X
[16:12] <Hydrid> okz
[16:12] <xtianreu> jrib: Im getting a system policy prevents modifying the user configuration message right after I pressed OK
[16:12] <benc> DasEi: is it possible that this user doesn't have a password and will I be able to delete the password after setting it?
[16:13] <jiohdi> jrib, is there a website with a list of those short cuts
[16:13] <minimec> vikash: Again you can search the internet fo any solutions or simply by an adapter (microSD+Adaptor solution for about 10EUR ;)
[16:13] <jrib> xtianreu: I'm not looking over your shoulder.  I have no idea what the context is for what you are doing.  Let's start troubleshooting your first issue: installing flashplayer.  Please open Accessories -> Terminal and tell me the output of the command « uname -m »
[16:13] <jrib> jiohdi: not that I know of
[16:13] <vikash> minimec, one more thing i would like to ask
[16:14] <jrib> jiohdi: other than those and the sysrq keys, I can't think of others
[16:14] <DasEi> benc: it might be blank, and root can set it up / differ it at any time, they are stored crypted
[16:14] <vikash> minimec, when i boot ubuntu i get message ata softreset failed device not ready
[16:14] <minimec> vikash: So do I...
[16:14] <jrib> jiohdi: system -> preferences -> keyboard shortcuts has a bunch of X stuff of course
[16:14] <vikash> minimec, what can i do for that
[16:15] <minimec> vikash: I simply ignore it *rofl*
[16:15] <vikash> when i tyoe mini and press tab name is not auto complete
[16:16] <Tniffoc> Where can I find a good tutorial on VMs under Ubuntu Desktop?
[16:16] <vikash> minimec , tab doesn't complete nickname
[16:16] <jrib> !virtualizer | Tniffoc
[16:16] <jrib> Tniffoc: /msg ubottu !qemu     and the others for links to info about each one
[16:16] <Tniffoc> thanks
[16:17] <js__> Here is my dns config http://paste.ubuntu.com/241956/
[16:17] <KiRiLoS> !kqemu
[16:17] <jrib> xtianreu: do you know what you have to do?
[16:17] <KiRiLoS> !qemu
[16:17] <Robin_> e any one can tell me what is Evolt Browser Archive??
[16:17] <RioKuro> is anybody here familiar with Archlinux?
[16:17] <jrib> RioKuro: #archlinux is
[16:17] <erUSUL> RioKuro: no; go ask in #archlinux
[16:18] <RioKuro> yeah i know but it's a cross thing
[16:18] <jrib> RioKuro: just ask your question then
[16:18] <Robin_> e anyone can teach me how to install ie4linux
[16:18] <RioKuro> their package manager has an option: pacman -Rs <package>
[16:18] <jrib> Robin_: did you ask #winehq?
[16:18] <RioKuro> what is the debian equivalent of that?
[16:19] <Robin_> they say they dont support that!!
[16:19] <inx-live> RioKuro: Synaptic
[16:19] <erUSUL> RioKuro: if you say what that option does; we may be able to help
[16:19] <jrib> Robin_: search removed packages?
[16:19] <RioKuro> haha yeah ofcourse:P it's still early here
[16:19] <Robin_> ??
[16:19] <Robin_> sorry how to search??
[16:20] <jrib> Robin_: yes, they tell you how to properly install ie though.
[16:20] <RioKuro> it removes the package and all the dependencies for it without breaking any other package
[16:20] <RioKuro> keeps the system clean
[16:20] <Robin_> ic from where can i seach??
[16:20] <jrib> RioKuro: apt-get autoremove
[16:20] <jrib> Robin_: #winehq.  Ask them how to install ie
[16:21] <jrib> !appdb | Robin_
[16:21] <RioKuro> jrib: thanks
[16:21] <RioKuro> i'm kinda new to this ubuntu thing
[16:23] <benc> how do I run a command as another user?
[16:23] <jrib> benc: su -c
[16:23] <erUSUL> benc: sudo -u user command
[16:23] <benc> thanks
[16:25] <th1> How can I stop Pulseaudio from running? when I kill it it gets started again immediately by something.
[16:26] <erUSUL> th1: sudo /etc/init.d/pulseaudio stop
[16:26] <Vinceman> how does the computer janitor determine what software is removable?
[16:27] <RioKuro> apt-get autoremove doesn't work
[16:27] <RioKuro> i tested it with xsane
[16:27] <jrib> RioKuro: pastebin
[16:28] <cyberghoser1> hello all , is there any work around on compiz to make the windows preview to show window content if the window is minimized?
[16:28] <RioKuro> it installed three packages, libsane, xsane-common and xsane. but when i do the autoremove: apt-get autoremove xsane. it just removes xsane
[16:28] <cyberghoser1> RioKuro, try maybe deborphan
[16:28] <jrib> RioKuro: can you pastebin the commands you ran and the output?
[16:30] <RioKuro> i'm sorry but i'm new to this irc thing, whats' pastebin?
[16:30] <jrib> !pastebin | RioKuro
[16:30] <theatro> http://pastebin.gr http://pastebin.com http://pastebin.ca http://nopaste.info http://codepad.org
[16:30] <theatro> http://pastebin.gr http://pastebin.com http://pastebin.ca http://nopaste.info http://codepad.org
[16:30] <jrib> theatro: are you a bot
[16:30] <RioKuro> whow that's fast
[16:30] <RioKuro> thnks
[16:30] <cyberghoser1> no he's Greek
[16:31] <RioKuro> http://paste.ubuntu.com/241985/
[16:32] <candrodor> I can't get certain CDs to be recognised by Ubuntu.  It just asks as though there's no CD in the drive.  I think this is only with bought CDs, like music albums and a printer install CD I have, rather than say home burned CDs.  They were recognised on Windows when I had it though.
[16:32] <cyberghoser1> RioKuro, just use sudo apt-get autoremove without any other notice
[16:32] <jrib> RioKuro: what happens if you run « sudo apt-get autoremove » now?  I think you may have had to do remove --autoremove before
[16:33] <grawity> candrodor: After you insert the CD, wait a few seconds, run 'dmesg' in terminal, and see what it says at the end.
[16:33] <grawity> candrodor: And pastebin that to http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[16:34] <RioKuro> the just apt-get autoremove thing dit it
[16:34] <RioKuro> to bad you have to do it in two commands
[16:35] <jrib> RioKuro: no, you can probably use remove --auto-remove
[16:35] <RioKuro> no doesn't work
[16:36] <RioKuro> still only does the one package
[16:36] <RioKuro> rio@BlackDragon:~$ sudo apt-get remove --auto-remove xsane
[16:36] <jrib> RioKuro: any difference if you switch the order?
[16:36] <grawity> grawity@theory ~$ function apt-nuke { sudo apt-get remove "$@"; sudo apt-get autoremove; }
[16:37] <cyberghoser1> RioKuro, install deborphan from synaptic
[16:37] <cyberghoser1> then in a terminal enter this: sudo deborphan | xargs sudo apt-get -y remove --purge
[16:37] <cyberghoser1> it will make the job
[16:37] <meanburrito920_> my camera doesnt show up in nautilus when I plug it in. any idea why this may be? it is a canon
[16:37] <RioKuro> no difference if i switch it
[16:38] <jrib> RioKuro: meh, sounds like a bug
[16:38] <Beatlesfan> hi all, can anyone assist me with a "getaddrinfo" error using remote desktop?
[16:38] <massimo> ciao
[16:38] <OttifantSir> Is anyone familiar with how to set up a printer to be available to the network with Webmin on Ubuntu Server 8.04(.3)?
[16:38] <RioKuro> i'm just looking for an easy way to do it, not a commandline of a mile long
[16:38] <candrodor> gravity: getting a lot of http://paste.ubuntu.com/242001/
[16:38] <jrib> RioKuro: put what grawity said in your .bashrc
[16:38] <cyberghoser1> RioKuro, if you don't expertise with linux and a terminal i don't see the point of using it :)
[16:38] <RioKuro> ok will try it
[16:39] <RioKuro> don't get me wrong, i've been using Arch linux for 2 years so i know how to use the cli
[16:39] <cyberghoser1> ok good luck then :)
[16:39] <oly> anyone able to help me create an upstart script / explain some thing about it ???
[16:39] <RioKuro> it's just that i'm hitting a wall with the ubuntu package manager
[16:39] <RioKuro> pacman is so fast and clean
[16:40] <cyberghoser1> so does ubuntu
[16:40] <vikas> oly, upstart script? please explain
[16:40] <Alvinware> How to apply my settings successfully in the nvidia x server settings?
[16:40] <RioKuro> also does anybody know how to make the output of apt-get to be more readable? I think it's a mess really
[16:41] <RioKuro> maybe some colors?
[16:41] <grawity> How about using aptitude, then?
[16:41] <oly> vikas basically i want to set inadyn to launch at boot i know not to use rc.d anymore and to use upstart in its place
[16:41] <grawity> It has both a ncurses interface and apt-get-like commands.
[16:41] <funkyHat> grawity: your "apt-nuke" function does just the same thing as aptitude remove $@
[16:41] <oly> but i am having problems like when i launch my script i get 4 instances of inadyn
[16:41] <grawity> funkyHat: I don't use aptitude myself.
[16:42] <oly> no idea if that should be the case but to me its wrong
[16:42] <grawity> funkyHat: also, RioKuro wanted that in one command.
[16:42] <RioKuro> hm... will look in to that, how many package managers are there in ubuntu?
[16:42] <Tniffoc> Are there any free mac spinoffs that will run in VMWare so I can run the iPhone SDK in them?
[16:42] <RioKuro> isn't one enough?
[16:42] <grawity> RioKuro: apt-{get,cache}, aptitude, and synaptic -- but they all use the same database.
[16:42] <Micheil> why are the ubuntu repos very outdated on many things?
[16:42] <grawity> RioKuro: They're just different interfaces to the same thing.
[16:42] <oly> also been hitting problems with start service never ending or upstart claiming started service are stopped
[16:42] <candrodor> grawity rather: getting a lot of http://paste.ubuntu.com/242001/  Is that wireless reference relevant to cd-drives?
[16:42] <Alvinware> I can't successfully apply my settings in the nvidia x server settings, why?
[16:42] <ralf_j> grawity: not that I'm an expert, but wouldn't sudo apt-get autoremove "$@" do the same thing?
[16:42] <oly> the documentation seems useless
[16:43] <funkyHat> RioKuro: actually all of the package managers use dpkg to actually manage packages, apt is a layer on top of that that automatically handles deps and updates, and there are a couple of interfaces to that
[16:43] <grawity> ralf_j: as you can see from discussion above, no.
[16:43] <RioKuro> so what is the base app to do it?
[16:43] <oly> so trying to find some one who understands it
[16:43] <cyberghoser1> Micheil, on many packages you can read that canonical does not provide updates for them
[16:43] <funkyHat> RioKuro: competition is good :)
[16:43] <RioKuro> thnks funkyhat
[16:43] <vikas> oly, i am sorry, i am naive in inadyn
[16:43] <funkyHat> RioKuro: dpkg, but that is only useful on its own for installing .deb files manually, you want to use aptitude or apt-get
[16:43] <oly> well it does not need to be inadyn any service / daemon i would be happy with
[16:43] <oly> i would have one as a template then
[16:43] <Alvinware> i need nvidia x server settings help, any one could help me?
[16:44] <Micheil> cyberghoser1: hmm.. still, surely where they have svn repos they'd be setup to automatically update?
[16:44] <oly> even knowledge on how to debug upstart would be useful
[16:44] <ralf_j> grawity: I'm sorry, I obviously joined later
[16:44] <erUSUL> Alvinware: run it with gksudo --> « gksudo nvidia-settings »
[16:44] <Celsinho> hi
[16:44] <RioKuro> i'm sorry, i don't want to sound like i'm bashing everything, i'm just trying to understand ubuntu/debian. it's just that coming from archlinux, it all just looks like a mess...
[16:44] <funkyHat> RioKuro: I suggest aptitude, just aptitude on its own gives you a nice curses interface with vi like keybindings, but you can also just use it from the command line
[16:44] <cyberghoser1> Micheil, don't really know about that
[16:44] <Tniffoc> Are there any free mac spinoffs that will run in VMWare so I can run the iPhone SDK in them?
[16:45] <grawity> RioKuro: Does pacman have a GUI?
[16:45] <RioKuro> no gui
[16:45] <Micheil> okay
[16:45] <OttifantSir> Is anyone familiar with how to set up a printer to be available to the network with Webmin on Ubuntu Server 8.04(.3)?
[16:45] <funkyHat> RioKuro: s/just aptitude/just typing aptitude/
[16:45] <Alvinware> erUSUL, Why's that they blocked user from changing those settings?
[16:45] <rincon> how do i install a .deb package that is saved on local disk ?
[16:45] <RioKuro> it's just really fast and keeps the system clean
[16:45] <funkyHat> rincon: dpkg -i packagename
[16:45] <eltume> Help: my ubuntu is not recognizing any media disc. What's the packages used to auto mount the cdrom and removable drives ?
[16:45] <RioKuro> you should try it in a virtualbox or something
[16:45] <grawity> rincon: In GUI, you can just double-click it. In Terminal, dpkg -i packagename.deb
[16:45] <erUSUL> Alvinware: becouse is a system wide setting the /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[16:46] <DasEi> rincon: sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[16:46] <vikas> oly, i wasnt aware of upstart either
[16:46] <RioKuro> i also like the rolling release thing: pacman -Syu updates the entire comp
[16:47] <dremits> hey. in chmod 1 = execute, 2 = write and 4 = read so what does 3 equal?
[16:47] <RioKuro> anyway thanks everyone, i'm gonna look around a bit more
[16:47] <rincon> thanks
[16:47] <funkyHat> RioKuro: you might get fed up with Ubuntu's time based releasing then, perhaps
[16:47] <grawity> dremits: The numbers are in octal. Octal 3 is binary 011 (-wx)
[16:47] <jrib> dremits: 3 = 2+1
[16:48] <grawity> dremits: So 3 = write+execute
[16:48] <dremits> jrib, grawity thanks. me being dumb again lol
[16:48] <ralf_j> Does anyone know how to get a Netgear WG121 USB WLAN device working with Kubuntu 9.04? When plugging it in I get the following in dmesg, an that's all: http://pastebin.ca/1514902
[16:48] <funkyHat> dremits: you add them together, no need to worry about converting it to binary if that confuses you
[16:48] <RioKuro> yeah i was thinking of the timebased thing, but is a tradeoff you know
[16:48] <Cynner>  http://www.lostworlds.lv/go.php?1139723800 new website game, come and play
[16:48] <Olof2> Does anyone know how to manually add a windows installation to Grub?
[16:49] <dremits> funkyHat: yeah it was just a case of me leaping onto the ubuntu irc before thinking soemthing through :)
[16:49] <Alvinware> erUSUL, Is that the only way i can permanently changed the setting by using gksudo?
[16:50] <erUSUL> Alvinware: with nvidia cards yes... editting xorg.conf has allways required sudo.
[16:51] <Alvinware> erUSUL, Can i change the service Nice value too by gksudo?
[16:51] <RaceCondition> what does the "Basic Ubuntu Server" install option give me?
[16:51] <RaceCondition> like what packages
[16:52] <zargonovski> Hi
[16:52] <erUSUL> Alvinware: what service nice value ?
[16:52] <zargonovski> whassup
[16:52] <funkyHat> RaceCondition: nothing graphical, ssh server I believe, probably just that and the essentials. You choose which services you want to install on top
[16:53] <RaceCondition> funkyHat: SSH server is a separate install option
[16:53] <Alvinware> erUSUL, It's in the system monitor, gksudo system monitor?
[16:53] <Paschu> whats the best media player for ubuntu?
[16:53] <rincon> which of these versions of the java package should i choose for ubuntu http://www.java.com/en/download/linux_manual.jsp?locale=en&host=www.java.com:80    ?
[16:53] <zargonovski> vlc or mplayer
[16:53] <erUSUL> !best | Paschu
[16:54] <funkyHat> RaceCondition: oh ok, well if it doesn't even have that, probably hardly anything!
[16:54] <RaceCondition> funkyHat: I just want to decide whether I need it or not
[16:54] <Paschu> lol the bot is awesome
[16:54] <funkyHat> RaceCondition: whether you need what?
[16:54] <mOrO^> Anyone know where I can get info on getting Linux software for a Creative Player ZEN mp3 player??
[16:54] <datacrusher> hi everyone! im having a problem logging as root, i know the password, but i justa cant, how do i go arround this?
[16:54] <TigerDuck> Hi there. How long would it typically take for something to happen after one had hit Enter on "Install Ubuntu" on a baremetal install?
[16:54] <RaceCondition> funkyHat: to select the "Basic Ubuntu Server" installation option when doing  a minimal virtual machine Ubuntu install
[16:55] <erUSUL> !root | datacrusher
[16:55] <RaceCondition> funkyHat: ...or not
[16:55] <Alvinware> erUSUL, The priority things.
[16:55] <erUSUL> Alvinware: gksudo genome-system-monitor ?
[16:55] <TigerDuck> I do see a lot of CD reading but nothing happens on the screen which makes me rather suspicous
[16:55] <OttifantSir> Is anyone familiar with how to set up a printer to be available to the network with Webmin on Ubuntu Server 8.04(.3)?
[16:55] <funkyHat> RaceCondition: oh I see, it's an additional option in the installer? No, if something is missing that you want to install you can just add it later
[16:55] <RaceCondition> funkyHat: yes, it's an option
[16:56] <datacrusher> if i use sudo, i get the messege that im not on the sudoers file. so iv tryed sudo viduso, no success.
[16:56] <RaceCondition> OK, I'll just skip it, it's easy to add anything using aptitude later
[16:56] <datacrusher> tryed to login as root, i got login incorrect
[16:56] <erUSUL> datacrusher: are you logged as the user you created during install ?
[16:56] <datacrusher> this i can do.
[16:56] <datacrusher> but i cant use sudo, cause im not on the sudoers file
[16:57] <datacrusher> i have a problem with the .dmrc files, iv followed this steps https://help.ubuntu.com/community/dmrcErrors
[16:57] <erUSUL> datacrusher: again are you logged as the user you created during install ?
[16:57] <TigerDuck> uhm, just to make sure my IRC client is working correctly and is sending something to this channel: Do you read me?
[16:57] <Alvinware> erUSUL, Yes, but that command give out a system monitor that didn't display firefox in it, when my firefox was on.
[16:57] <grawity> datacrusher: The very first user - the one created during installation - is in sudoers.
[16:57] <datacrusher> afther this, iv lost the access to sudo
[16:57] <xps9000> Just reboot..... Go into Grub's recovery, and change your password
[16:57] <xps9000> Datacrusher
[16:57] <Paschu> is there a ubuntu irc channel for games
[16:57] <Olof2> Someone help me plz, I have both Windows xp and Ubuntu installed , but when I start the computer  , only Ubuntu starts...
[16:58] <datacrusher> i just used sudo to change the 644 .dmrc permissions on this .dmrc file
[16:58] <erUSUL> datacrusher: paste de output of "id" here it shoulb be a line or two
[16:58] <grawity> datacrusher: .dmrc shouldn't remove sudo access.
[16:58] <TigerDuck> Olof2: You need to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[16:58] <datacrusher> rebooted, i can log to gnome without the .dmrc claim box, but crapped my root access
[16:58] <datacrusher> grawity: i bet it shouldnt
[16:58] <jiohdi> Olof2, you dont have an option for xp on the start up screen?
[16:59] <TigerDuck> Olof2: You need to add Windows' drive to be bootable
[16:59] <datacrusher> thats why im lost
[16:59] <grawity> datacrusher: Paste the output of 'id'
[16:59] <grawity> datacrusher: Also, are you using the account created during install, or some other account?
[16:59] <minimec> !games > Paschu
[16:59] <erUSUL> datacrusher: obviously you do not want help you are ignoring all the request for usefull data
[16:59] <datacrusher> uid=1002(cparzewski) gid=1002(cparzewski) grupos=100(users),1002(cparzewski)
[16:59] <__THEGOD> ubuntu sucks
[16:59] <__THEGOD> why its so slow
[17:00] <__THEGOD> and feature less as livecd
[17:00] <datacrusher> im using the account created after install
[17:00] <erUSUL> !ot | __THEGOD
[17:00] <Alvinware> erUSUL, Do you how to change the priority/Nice value successfully?
[17:00] <datacrusher> its the cparzewski one
[17:00] <__THEGOD> do peoples plans to fix it one day  ?
[17:00] <erUSUL> Alvinware: nice value PID
[17:00] <xps9000> __THEGOD: Customize it..... Google " Ubuntu Performance Tips"
[17:00] <__THEGOD> or do they thinks they cad o it o ne day ?
[17:00] <jrib> __THEGOD: do you have an actual support question?
[17:00] <Windopain> can anyone help with this: http://pastebin.com/m424f63fb  i'm trying to run ubuntu live but I end up with a modprobe error saying /lib/modules/2.6.28-11-generic/modules.dep does not exist and then a (initramfs) prompt (see the link for the exact error)
[17:00] <__THEGOD> well i hawe many
[17:01] <Alvinware> erUSUL, Yes, Nice value.
[17:01] <__THEGOD> but this is the main of all questions
[17:01] <jrib> __THEGOD: please ask one at a time
[17:01] <Frantic> guys, any idea why I have no sound from songbird 1.2? I've tested gstreamer via gstreamer-properties
[17:01] <erUSUL> datacrusher: you lost memebership of important groups ? did you used "usermod" ? or "useradd" ?
[17:01] <grawity> __THEGOD: If you do not like Ubuntu, go use Debian or Arch or whatever you like. What you're doing now doesn't help at all.
[17:01] <datacrusher> iv added another user
[17:01] <datacrusher> with useradd
[17:02] <rincon> can i install self-extracting java from adobe website on ubuntu?
[17:02] <dremits> hi everyone. i have a problem installing php applications in /var/www presumably because of permissions issue. what should i do?
[17:02] <grawity> datacrusher: What does 'getent group admin' say?
[17:02] <funkyHat> datacrusher: you should use adduser
[17:02] <Alvinware> erUSUL, How to change the Nice value?
[17:02] <erUSUL> Alvinware: that's the command invocvation  " renice <nicevlaue> -p PID
[17:02] <jrib> !sudo > dremits
[17:02] <jrib> !permissions > dremits
[17:02] <grawity> erUSUL: I don't think -p is needed.
[17:02] <datacrusher> admin:x:115:
[17:02] <minimec> Windopain: Looks like a cd burning error to me.
[17:02] <grawity> jrib: Re-read the above discussion. He's not in sudoers.
[17:03] <erUSUL> datacrusher: well you have to add yourself to the admin group again
[17:03] <datacrusher> is there a way to do that, whitout being root? erUSUL
[17:03] <grawity> datacrusher: Strange... you'll probably need to reboot into the "Recovery mode", and then use this command: adduser cparzewski admin
[17:03] <grawity> datacrusher: The 'recovery mode' will give you root access.
[17:03] <erUSUL> datacrusher: boot into recovery mode and run « adduser youusername admin »
[17:03] <erUSUL> datacrusher: that will let you run sudo
[17:03] <jrib> grawity: you mean datacrusher?
[17:03] <datacrusher> oh! thanks, ill try it here
[17:03] <Windopain> minimec: yeah, that's what i always hear first.  i've burned from two pcs, have tried a total of 4 cds, and they work fine on other systems.
[17:03] <zargonovski> or use a live cd to reset the root
[17:04] <erUSUL> datacrusher: after that you can add yourself again to other required/usefull groups like audio hotplug etc
[17:04]  * zargonovski is gone brb
[17:04] <datacrusher> how do i add an user to a group
[17:04] <bcurtiswx> hey, anyone know how to install a sound theme?
[17:04] <datacrusher> since i cant use useradd or usermod
[17:04] <minimec> Windopain: It'a only a guess...
[17:04] <grawity> jrib: Ah, dammit :/ I mixed up nicks again.
[17:05] <Windopain> minimec: right, just saying i'm quite sure it's not that
[17:05] <datacrusher> do i need a boot cd to enter recovery mode?
[17:05] <funkyHat> datacrusher: grawity has already told you, you need to reboot into recovery mode
[17:05] <Alvinware> erUSUL, yeah, and must plus the sudo at front. Thank You very much for helping me out.
[17:05] <Windopain> i'm bummed b/c i really wanted to run ubuntu on this sytem
[17:05] <funkyHat> datacrusher: no, it is a boot option in grub
[17:05] <erUSUL> datacrusher: i just told you « adduser youusername groupname »
[17:05] <datacrusher> oh ok
[17:05] <erUSUL> Alvinware: no problem
[17:05] <datacrusher> thanks everyone, ill try it now
[17:05] <datacrusher> ah ok!
[17:05] <erUSUL> datacrusher: no recoverymode is aviable in the grub menu
[17:06] <grawity> datacrusher: There's a recovery mode option in the boot menu. Once you select it, you'll get another menu - which has 'root' option at the end.
[17:06] <nubuntu> Hola
[17:06] <nubuntu> Hola
[17:06] <funkyHat> Hole?
[17:07] <funkyHat> olé?
[17:07] <nubuntu> are peoples is a lammers
[17:07] <dremits> jrib: in linux/ubuntu do files only ever have one owner/owner group or can there be multiple groups/users owning one file?
[17:07] <grawity> dremits: One owner, and one group.
[17:07] <funkyHat> nubuntu: what is a lammers?
[17:07] <dremits> grawity: thanks
[17:08] <jrib> dremits: you can use ACLs to accomplish that but not otherwise
[17:08] <funkyHat> RaceCondition: did you figure it out?
[17:08] <RaceCondition> funkyHat: yeah, I just skipped that option
[17:08] <funkyHat> RaceCondition: cool
[17:08] <dremits> jrib: i'll read up on ACLs another time. thanks
[17:09] <jrib> dremits: short for Access Control Lists, man setfacl and man getfacl
[17:09] <RaceCondition> funkyHat: I mean, what can possibly go wrong - everything's an apt package anyway
[17:09] <funkyHat> RaceCondition: exactly
[17:09] <datacrusher> it worked, thanks everyone.
[17:09] <dremits> jrib: thanks for the info
[17:09] <rincon> where is the Mozilla installation directory in a tipical ubuntu system?
[17:10] <funkyHat> rincon: applications are not installed into a single directory
[17:10] <RaceCondition> funkyHat: which is why I love debian/ubuntu
[17:10] <funkyHat> rincon: unless you mean a mozilla app that you have downloaded from the mozilla website
[17:10] <erUSUL> rincon: there is no single install dir... binaries go to /usr/bin/ libs go to /usr/lib/ icons anf graphics go to aonther one a so on
[17:10] <bcurtiswx> anyone know how to install a sound theme?
[17:11] <combo> how can i reset my pppoE modem so my IP adress will change itself ?
[17:11] <rincon> how do i iterpret this?: Go to the plugins sub-directory under the Mozilla installation directory,  cd <Mozilla installation directory>/plugins
[17:11] <jrib> rincon: what are you trying to install?
[17:12] <rincon> jre
[17:12] <datacrusher> iv noticed if the notebook is without the eth cable, ubuntu gets VERY slow. if i use some sudo command, it takes about 2 minutes, and give me a line: sudo: unable to resolve host abulafia
[17:12] <datacrusher> and then asks for the password
[17:12] <defrysk>    cd /usr/lib/mozilla/and/so/on
[17:12] <funkyHat> rincon: just sudo aptitude install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[17:12] <erUSUL> rincon: /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/ <<<< but you should use the flashplugin-nonfree package to install flash
[17:12] <datacrusher> why is that? almost all apps, inkscape ginp and whatsoever gots VERY slow if im not on a network
[17:12] <jrib> !java > rincon
[17:12] <jrib> rincon: use the repositories
[17:13] <erUSUL> !sudoerr
[17:13] <erUSUL> !search sudo
[17:13] <RaceCondition> um, how do I get the man command to work? like what apt package do I need to install?
[17:13] <Paschu> i wanna edit videos in ubuntu. what are the most popular programs?
[17:13] <grawity> datacrusher: It is possible that your sudoers file, and probably other config files, have local hostnames in them.
[17:13] <grawity> datacrusher: Without network, the system _still_ tries to resolve those hostnames, but fails.
[17:13] <defrysk> Paschu, kino
[17:13] <funkyHat> datacrusher: did you change your computer's hostname at some point?
[17:14] <erUSUL> grawity: datacrusher that happens when you /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname files do not agrre on your computer name
[17:14] <datacrusher> no
[17:14] <datacrusher> iv chosed abulafia on its install proccess
[17:14] <grawity> datacrusher: Can you check the output of 'hostname', 'hostname --fqdn', and the /etc/hosts file?
[17:14] <grawity> datacrusher: There should be a line "127.0.0.1 abulafia" in /etc/hosts, then.
[17:14] <datacrusher> ill do that, wait a sec
[17:15] <llml> Anyone would please pastebin a sample virtualbox config file, that is, ~/.VirtualBox/VirtualBox.xml by default. mine is missing:(
[17:15] <grawity> llml: I think VirtualBox should create it automatically.
[17:15] <RaceCondition> how do I make Ubuntu tell me which package to install in order to make a non-existent command to work?
[17:15] <llml> grawity: i got error
[17:16] <RaceCondition> hmm, got it
[17:16] <llml> grawity: i touched one, still error
[17:16] <funkyHat> RaceCondition: install the package command-not-found
[17:16] <RaceCondition> funkyHat: yeah, I got that myself, but it's not telling me which package has the man command...
[17:17] <funkyHat> um
[17:17] <hilton> oi
[17:17] <losher> Paschu: check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_video_editing_software for things that claim to run on Unix. There aren't many...
[17:17] <erUSUL> RaceCondition: dpkg -S `which man`
[17:17] <grawity> RaceCondition: um, you don't have that? anyway, it's "man-db"
[17:17] <android6011> is there going to be a 64 bit version of netbook remix?
[17:17] <grawity> RaceCondition: and apt-cache search can often be useful.
[17:17] <Ddorda> how can i remove the last update of a package?
[17:17] <hilton> alguem do brasil??
[17:17] <llml> grawity: could you please pastebin yours? that would be very helpful
[17:18] <grawity> llml: I don't use VirtualBox :[
[17:18] <defrysk> android6011, is there a 64 bit netbook ?
[17:18] <jueves> if I want to talk about nothing at all...wich channel should I get in? :)
[17:18] <android6011> defrysk: idk, I would like to use it on some older machines with small hard drives
[17:18] <john4654> Hi  Are there any programs/codecs that can play DVD-RAM files? I have some precious family stuff recorded with a DVD-RAM camcorder, and the only thing that can play them play in Womble MPEG Video Wizard in Windows. This is genuinely the only thing keeping me from migrating from Windows completely. I've tried all the obvious codecs/programs.
[17:18] <llml> grawity: oh, i hate to reinstall it, just because of config file missing
[17:18] <RaceCondition> grawity: aptitude search is what I'm using, but it returns a lot of things for "man"
[17:18] <defrysk> android6011, older systems are not 64 bit
[17:18] <RaceCondition> anyway, thanks, I think I got it now
[17:19] <android6011> older by a few years and dont get much use
[17:19] <android6011> i know what im doing :p
[17:19] <jueves> does anybody knows about a channel where I can talk about nothing?
[17:19] <erUSUL> !ot | jueves
[17:19] <defrysk> android6011, netbooks are not 64 bit
[17:19] <RaceCondition> now, is the postgresql 8.4 package the current one or 8.3? because I'm not seeing support for PostGIS for 8.4...
[17:19] <jueves> or where is the #monoxide channel, dont see it anymore :(
[17:19] <RaceCondition> hmm, 8.3, I guess
[17:20] <defrysk> and 64 bit has only advantage above 2 gb ram
[17:20] <llml> Anyone using VirtualBox?
[17:20] <losher> jueves: http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/new2irc.html#where
[17:20] <RaceCondition> I thought Ubuntu had 8.4 already
[17:20] <Ddorda> how can i remove the last update of a package?
[17:20] <android6011> I know, but I was wanting to know if a 64 bit version of netbook would be released, eventually some netbooks WILL be 64 bit and just because it has netbook in the name, doesnt mean it has to be for a netbook
[17:20] <defrysk> android6011, your query is irrelevant
[17:21] <jueves> thank you losher, but I was actually looking for one channel that got lost..and the people was pretty nice over there, was #monoxide
[17:21] <android6011> how
[17:21] <DasEi> llml: yes
[17:21] <jueves> but is not on the list anymore :(
[17:21] <funkyHat> android6011: UNR is compiled for the atom arhcitecture I think, you'd be better off just installing regular ubuntu and using the netbook packages, if that's what you want, or just stripping out the bits you don't need
[17:21] <TigerDuck> jueves: /join #monoxide
[17:21] <jueves> thanks tig
[17:22] <android6011> I want it for the interface etc, for people who are not very good with computers
[17:22] <llml> DasEi: hi, would you please pastebin your config file? mine is missing.
[17:22] <Ddorda> can anyone help please?
[17:22] <funkyHat> android6011: so just install regular 64-bit ubuntu, then install the netbook remix packages
[17:22] <llml> DasEi: it's at ~/.VirtualBox/VirtualBox.xml by default
[17:22] <DasEi> llml: which file ?
[17:22] <Ddorda> i want to remove an update of a package
[17:22] <android6011> ok, thank you. Thats all I was wanting to know is if it woudl be released in 64 bit or if 64 bit packaes were goign to be
[17:23] <bruenig> Ddorda: you mean you want to rollback the version?
[17:23] <xps9000> Ddorda, to completely remove it, just use apt-get remove <package>
[17:23] <Ddorda> bruenig: exactly
[17:23] <datacrusher> iv checked the hostnames on every file, one of then got 127.0.0.1 localhost, just changed to abulafia and its fine
[17:23] <llml> DasEi: ~/.VirtualBox/VirtualBox.xml by default
[17:24] <bruenig> Ddorda: unless you have the old package in your cache, probably going to be a tough
[17:24] <Ddorda> where is the cache so i can check?
[17:24] <addison_> hmm... debating whether I should self-host or a dedicated host, for a new company, any opinions?
[17:25] <losher> Ddorda: /var/cache/apt/archive
[17:25] <bruenig> addison_: dedicated
[17:25] <Ddorda> thanks
[17:25] <android6011> addison_: if its for you, self host if you don't think you will be getting a lot of traffic right away, dedicated if its not for you and you expect a lot of traffic
[17:25] <addison_> well its an internal site for a sales force
[17:25] <erUSUL> !pinning | Ddorda
[17:26] <addison_> any opinions on providers?
[17:26] <android6011> addison_: hmm, in that case it might be better to leave it internal with no access to the internet at all, except for occassional updates
[17:26] <addison_> let me rephrase, web based CRM software for a sales force (sugarcrm)
[17:27] <arabia> hello
[17:27] <llml> DasEi: ping!
[17:28] <llml> DasEi: around?
[17:28] <addison_> so yeah, an eventual 450 man sales force, so it will need to be beefy pretty quick
[17:28] <arabia> i wanna creat an irc chat site if any one have a documents can help me please let me know :)
[17:28] <android6011> ya, then id go offsite to dedicated since customers will be accessing it as well
[17:28] <addison_> any recommendations on providers?
[17:29] <losher> Ddorda: I seem to recall synaptic has an option to 'force install' a particular version of a package. I've never used it myself. Depending on how old a version is, it might not be in a repository any more...
[17:29] <addison_> rackspace still the best (been a while since i have really researched hosting)
[17:29] <llml> DasEi: oh, thanks anyway:)
[17:29] <android6011> i use nearlyfreespeech.net just for personal stuff that doesnt get any traffic
[17:29] <android6011> i dont think id recommend it for business though
[17:29] <llml> Anyone using VirtualBox please?
[17:30] <DasEi> llml: you won't be able to set it as yours, what do you need from it ?
[17:30] <arabia> andriod6o11
[17:30] <llml> DasEi: the VirtualBox can not start
[17:30] <losher> arabia: do you really mean an entire *site*? I ask because currently anyone can create their own *channel* & be in charge of it...
[17:30] <arabia> whisper me please
[17:31] <llml> DasEi: telling this file is missing
[17:31] <ribot> hi
[17:31] <llml> DasEi: and it's true, i just removed it by mistake
[17:32] <DasEi> llml: that's bad, is where are the uuids and the paths to youre apps are stored, purge an reinstall vbox then
[17:32] <angel> Hi
[17:32] <clarinet> #secretmaryo
[17:33] <extor> Does ubuntu by chance provide a rescue kernel+initrd which one can just pop into /boot and grub's menu.lst and then have the box boot into a ramdisk with no hard drive partitions mounted?
[17:33] <losher> arabia: see http://www.irchelp.org/
[17:33] <llml> DasEi: the VirtualBox is newly installed
[17:33] <arabia> i wanna creat an irc chat site if any one have a documents can help me please whisper me
[17:33] <iceroot> arabia: you want to create a website with an irc-client? or you want to host an irc-server?
[17:33] <llml> DasEi: so i thought just a smaple file would be fine
[17:34] <ruge> Hey all, does the Ubuntu store accept PayPal?
[17:34] <DasEi> llml: sudo apt-get  remove --purge virtualbox *
[17:34] <DasEi> llml: sudo apt-get  install virtualbox
[17:34] <ruge> yes, yes it does
[17:34] <ruge> :)
[17:34] <DasEi> llml: sudo apt-get  remove --purge virtualbox*  ^
[17:35] <llml> DasEi: okey, but i hate to reinstall it just because config file missing
[17:35] <llml> DasEi: guess i have to choose this last choice
[17:36] <losher> extor: a single-user boot does *almost* that, but it mounts the root partition at a minimum. To boot entirely disklessly you need the live-cd
[17:36] <llml> DasEi: thanks:)
[17:36] <extor> losher, I only have ssh access---I need network connectivity in the rescue system
[17:37] <erUSUL> extor: just remove the root parameter from one of the netries on grub and you will land in the initrd... it provides a spartan busybox envoirment
[17:38] <ribot> i just prepared new usb stick with unetbootin without problems but then eeepc just doesnt boot with it
[17:38] <ribot> it says: reboot and select proper boot device or insert boot media in selected boot device and press a key
[17:38] <extor> I need something similar to the knoppix ramdisk environment--with no hard drive partitions mounted
[17:38] <extor> And I forgot to mention I only have ssh access
[17:39] <Chazz> hey, i'm in the Ubuntu live CD, running GParted to try and resize a parition, and theres an error icon next to the drive. what should i do?
[17:39] <rincon1> i installed jre from adobe website and itt is not working how do i uninstall it?
[17:39] <ribot> can it be that kingston memory stick, which is default fat32, needs something like something before start?
[17:39] <extor> Chazz, clean the error up or move it away from the drive
[17:39] <erUSUL> rincon1: jre ? you mean flash ?
[17:39] <DasEi> llml: http://pastebin.com/f50240d56 , for an overview
[17:39] <rincon1> java runtime environment
[17:40] <erUSUL> rincon1: jre is aviable from sun not from adobe...
[17:40] <erUSUL> !java | rincon1
[17:40] <iceroot> rincon1: adobe is not hosting java
[17:40] <iceroot> rincon1: you mean sun (or oracle, dont know)
[17:40] <rincon1> sorry ,,,,from sun's
[17:40] <Chazz> extor: how can i do that? the Check drive function of gparted won't work, and it cant be resizzed
[17:40] <iceroot> rincon1: why not using apt-get?
[17:40] <erUSUL> rincon1: see if the bin has an uninstall option
[17:41] <CopyWriter> hello everyone
[17:41] <losher> extor: are you saying you can't even access the system physically to boot a live cd, or just that once booted, you want to only use ssh?
[17:41] <erUSUL> rincon1: why you used the bin from java... « sudo aptitude install sun-java6-jre »
[17:42] <erUSUL> rincon1: is way easier
[17:42] <extor> losher, the latter. These are colocated servers
[17:42] <rincon1> erUSUL:  can i install by means of aptitude install sun-java6-jre withput uninstalling the .bin ?
[17:43] <losher> extor: so why not boot the live-cd, configure it's nic, install openssh-server on it, and then login to it...?
[17:43] <TheBase> hello.
[17:43] <erUSUL> rincon1: well i'm not sure but there may  be clashes... try to see if the bin has an --uninstall option
[17:43] <extor> losher, how can you boot a live CD on a remote box that you only have ssh access to?
[17:44] <legend2440> rincon1: if you are trying to get java working in firefox then   sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin
[17:44] <rincon1> erUSUL:  i t has not an un install option
[17:44] <TheBase> Quick question: What is this dummy packages? I need to install grub 2 so I can create some kernel images (long story) but I don't to mess anything up
[17:44] <erUSUL> rincon1: http://www.java.com/en/download/help/5000011600.xml#self
[17:46] <Singularitet> Hi
[17:46] <llml> how may i unremove one old linux kernel? apt-get remove linux-headers-2.6.xx-xx linux-headers-2.6.xx-xx-generic linux-image-2.6.xx-xx-generic linux-restricted-modules-2.6.xx-xx-generic ?
[17:46] <llml> /s/unremove/remove
[17:47] <Singularitet> Any Norwegian here?
[17:47] <extor> no
[17:47] <extor> #ubuntu-no
[17:47] <Singularitet> Thanks!
[17:48] <RioKuro> does anybody here know how/where to set global cflags?
[17:48] <Juan_a_Day> Hello, I would like to Install a TV Card and a TV viewer, Can someone Help me ?
[17:49] <llml> how may i remove one old linux kernel? apt-get remove linux-headers-2.6.xx-xx linux-headers-2.6.xx-xx-generic linux-image-2.6.xx-xx-generic linux-restricted-modules-2.6.xx-xx-generic ?
[17:49] <losher> extor: I asked above if you had physical access or not, and you seemed to say yes ? I assume you really meant "no physical access"...
[17:49] <DasEi> Juan_a_Day: what model (tv-card?)
[17:49] <extor> No physical access. Just ssh access over TCP/IP
[17:49] <Juan_a_Day> thank you DasEi It is a WinTV-Go analog card
[17:50] <llml> RioKuro: global cflags? i thought generally this flag is set in a make file
[17:50] <DasEi> llml: use synaptic or dlete by hand from /boot and menu.lst
[17:50] <DasEi> Juan_a_Day: so card already installed ?
[17:50] <legend2440> llml: be careful you dont remove the kernel you are using now. in terminal type  uname -a and note the kernel version you are using. its also a good idea to keep one backup kernel just in case of problems
[17:51] <RioKuro> llml: i just came from archlinux and there you can set it in a file called /etc/makepkg.conf
[17:51] <RioKuro> llml: then every time i did a makepkg command it read the file and automatically used those cflags
[17:51] <llml> legend2440: agreed, but too many kernels on my machine:(. i just wanna remove some ooooooold ones
[17:51] <ibnulislam1> How to check for a file if some kind of read/write activity on it?
[17:52] <Juan_a_Day> DasEi yes it is already installed, And I installed Xubuntu again with the card inserted
[17:52] <TigerDuck> Any recommendations for or against ext4?
[17:52] <llml> RioKuro: oh, not sure about archlinux
[17:52] <defrysk> TigerDuck, nope
[17:52] <losher> extor: then you don't have much choice. You have to boot enough of a system to run the ssh server. Since you don't have physical access, that means doing a full, regular boot, which means the minimum requirement as to have at least boot, root & user mounted. All other filesystems are optional though & can be dismounted.
[17:52] <aksci> ibnulislam1: ls - |grep <filename>
[17:53] <DasEi> Juan_a_Day: hopefully not for tv;; then sudo apt-get install tvtime
[17:53] <llml> RioKuro: then what a global flag for?
[17:53] <extor> losher, but knoppix can boot itself into a ramdisk...surely there must be a mini distro spinoff of ubuntu for my case?
[17:53] <Juan_a_Day> let me try
[17:53] <JohnCDI> anyone have any clue on how to get the bcm4306 to work with jaunty at anything other than 1MB/s
[17:53] <Juan_a_Day> DasEi let me try
[17:53]  * llml have to run, too late here
[17:54] <RioKuro> llml: i want it so every time i compile something it automatically optimizes for my machine
[17:54] <DasEi> Juan_a_Day: fetch tvtime from the apps menu, or start (as normal user) tvtime from trml
[17:54] <defrysk> RioKuro, then stick to arch
[17:54] <defrysk> RioKuro, its seems its your type of distro
[17:54] <RioKuro> defrysk: that's just lame saying that
[17:55] <defrysk> RioKuro, its seems its your type of distro
[17:55] <Juan_a_Day> DasEi: now installin
[17:55] <llml> RioKuro: good luck, i have to run
[17:55] <RioKuro> defrysk: i know it's possible, i've done it a long time ago
[17:55] <Juan_a_Day> DasEi do you know which TV standard is used in US?
[17:55] <defrysk> RioKuro, its not lame, if oyu like to tinker and compile you should not use ubuntu
[17:55] <Juan_a_Day> DasEi: NTSC?
[17:55] <Hayate_Yagami> I'm having a problem with PGP- I can't access the keys without being root.
[17:56] <rCX> Is there a way to search for files containing a string in Nautilus? (Like grep in the terminal)
[17:56] <RioKuro> defrysk: ubuntu is just as much linux as arch or slackware is
[17:56] <ralphte> Trying ti fix audio on jaunty 9.04. I have a asus p5q-em board and i am trying to get the audio working and i am having NO luck. I am running ver 1.20 of alsa. have checked the fourms no luck looking for some help thanks.
[17:56] <DasEi> Juan_a_Day: NTSC M I think
[17:56] <RioKuro> defrysk: it's based on debian right? if that isn't a tinker os than i don't know what is
[17:57] <defrysk> RioKuro, yes, but some are geared to general usage nd others are geared to optimazations and tinkering
[17:57] <Juan_a_Day> DasEi: Thanks,  continuing...
[17:57] <defrysk> RioKuro, ubuntu is for general usage and has precompliled pachages
[17:57] <RioKuro> defrysk, i just think it was an easy way out you know. I like linux because it's flexible.
[17:58] <defrysk> RioKuro, hence the choice in distros
[17:58] <RioKuro> defrsysk, and hence my choice to use ubuntu and mold it to my liking
[17:58] <defrysk> RioKuro, ubuntu does not support homebrew and tinkering
[17:59] <meanburrito920_> what is the name of the compiz setting manager in the repos?
[17:59] <tim_blechmann> hi all, not sure, whether i am right here, but i have a problem, when building a kernel package with make-kpkg. the /lib/modules/../source symlink points to my kernel directory, but i would prefer to have it pointing to the /usr/src/linux-header folder of the linux-header package of the corresponding kernel ... what do i need to do in order to generate kernel packages with changed source and build symlinks?
[17:59] <Juan_a_Day> DasEi: I think it's working, testing ..
[17:59] <RioKuro> defrysk, thats the funniest thing i've heard today
[17:59] <trento> ciao ,c'è qualche italiano ?
[17:59] <defrysk> RioKuro, if you mold a package to your likings, and have a question about it after, how to answer it ?
[18:00] <DasEi> Juan_a_Day: initial you got to run a frequ scan, which can take a while, if you can't tell the bording frequqenzies
[18:00] <[texas]> hey is there log anywhere that shows if there are errors at start up?
[18:00] <RioKuro> defrysk, you research knowing things can be different with your package
[18:00] <DasEi> !it | trento
[18:01] <trento> grazie a te
[18:01] <DasEi> prego
[18:01] <defrysk> [texas], dmesg
[18:01] <hajmola> hey, why is compiz choppy when I drag windows around, but not when doing other animations like expo and cube?
[18:01] <DasEi> [texas]: or /var/log/syslog
[18:01] <[texas]> my ubuntu splash screen just stopped working, but it starts bacj up if i press the space key or similar
[18:02] <[texas]> thanks
[18:02] <legend2440> meanburrito920_: compizconfig-settings-manager
[18:02] <DasEi> [texas]: do a : dmesg > dmesg.txt for more covience then | less
[18:02] <defrysk> RioKuro, I like tinkering and use arch/paldo for that, for daily usage i prefer trouble free and maybe a tad slower ubuntu
[18:02] <Juan_a_Day> DasEi I have a Cable Tuner, on channel 3, I cannot see anything but, I think that's the tuner I'm gonna test it on a TV set
[18:03] <RioKuro> defrysk, i know i can have best of both worlds, although to bad pacman won't work on ubuntu
[18:03] <DasEi> Juan_a_Day: it comes with few predefined ranges, works on cable/us fine, too, gotto play a little
[18:03] <defrysk> RioKuro, we are getting off topic so lets end this now
[18:04] <drforshaw> exit
[18:04] <Juan_a_Day> DasEi thank you
[18:04] <RioKuro> defrysk, i think i've just found it
[18:04] <RioKuro> defrysk, dpkg-buildpackage
[18:05] <Juan_a_Day> DasEi are you going to be there for a wile ?
[18:05] <defrysk> RioKuro, cool
[18:05] <poont> Hi, i am looking for a calendar programme that i can write reminders in  and so on any ideas?
[18:06] <[texas]> mkay so is there a way to disable the ubuntu splash screen with the bar that fills up
[18:07] <erUSUL> [texas]: rip off the splash boot option from grub's menu.lst
[18:07] <[texas]> because it seems like the bar stops filling up at a certain point and i'd like to figure it out
[18:07] <Juan_a_Day> DasEi because I also want to install an epson multifunction TX300F
[18:09] <make> i open a application program default is max.  what to change is set? pls
[18:09] <geirha> [texas]: Instead of removing the splash screen permanently, you can boot with modified options. In the boot menu, choose the kernel you want to boot and hit e to edit it, then edit the kernel line and remove the word "splash" from the end of the line. If you also remove "quiet" it will be even more verbose
[18:10] <ImmortaL> hello
[18:10] <Juan_a_Day> DasEi auf viedersen!
[18:10] <crazy-> i install now ubuntu server, can somebody prv me to talk with... what is more good to do ? :)
[18:10] <dremits> hey is there a mail server that doesn't require there to be a unix user per mail account, but instead you can just create a mail user within the servers interface?
[18:10] <rincon1> how do i click i accept on here: http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/8726/pantallazo1obc.png    ?
[18:10] <joltzy> is it possible to play encrypted dvd's straight out the box with vlc?
[18:10] <[texas]> geirha, thank you.
[18:10] <geirha> [texas]: Oh and once edited, hit b to boot with the modifications.
[18:10] <Guest43256> can anybody tell me where to get and how to install new themes in ubuntu 9.04 cuze im new
[18:10] <msds1502> I'm having an issue triple booting ubuntu and 2 versions of Windows from GRUB, can i get some help?
[18:10] <[texas]> thanks
[18:11] <erUSUL> rincon1: hit tab then enter
[18:11] <losher> extor: in theory, unetbootin claims to make isos installable without requiring a CD...
[18:11] <make> I'm open application program ,the window is max,,i need to change the set...pls
[18:11] <extor> yeah I know that but you still need USB access and they still mount a hard drive partition do they not?
[18:11] <arber4444>  can anybody tell me where to get and how to install new themes in ubuntu 9.04 cuze im new
[18:11] <rincon1> erUSUL: thanks
[18:12] <crazy-> hi i got a router and 2 pc on my house when i install ubuntu server on the laptop the wireless was going down...
[18:12] <crazy-> why/ :)
[18:12] <arber4444>  can anybody tell me where to get and how to install new themes in ubuntu 9.04 cuze im new
[18:12] <arber4444>  can anybody tell me where to get and how to install new themes in ubuntu 9.04 cuze im new
[18:12] <arber4444>  can anybody tell me where to get and how to install new themes in ubuntu 9.04 cuze im new
[18:12] <FloodBot2> arber4444: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:12] <msds1502> !repeat | arber4444
[18:12] <mneptok> !repeat | arber4444
[18:12] <user_> traaalllaaaaaaa laaa
[18:13] <legend2440> !themes | arber4444
[18:13] <crazy-> somebody?
[18:13] <mneptok> crazy-: who makes the router? is there a firmware update available for it? what do you mean by "the wireless was going down?" etc etc etc
[18:13] <make> I'm open application program ,the window is max,,i need to change the set...pls
[18:14] <b__> heh?
[18:14] <pH> guys
[18:14] <pH> how can I redirect something to this cmd: screen /dev/cu.PL* 115200 ?
[18:14] <pH> like
[18:14] <make> I'm open application program ,the window is max,,i need to change the set...pls
[18:14] <mneptok> !repeat | make
[18:14] <pH> echo HEY > screen /dev/cu.PL* 115200 (but this don't work)
[18:15] <crazy-> mneptok, i got internet on my laptop via wireless, the router is ok, the internet is ok, now i install ubuntu server on the laptop and the wireless from the laptop goes down , that mean's no internet for the laptop for the moment.
[18:15] <rincon1> does has ubuntu any special repository for non-free software ?
[18:15] <mneptok> crazy-: what is the wireless chipset in the laptop? who makes it? is there an Ubuntu driver for it?
[18:15] <b__> sounds like a bug, try resetting yo0ur modem
[18:15] <LjL> rincon1: multiverse
[18:16] <pH> ideas?
[18:16] <mneptok> pH: sounds like you want a shell alias.
[18:16] <rincon1> LjL: how do i configure it?
[18:16] <b__> RESET your modem
[18:16] <LjL> !multiverse
[18:16] <pH> mneptok: shell alias? (sorry, my english sucks)
[18:16] <mneptok> pH: are you using bash?
[18:16] <pH> yeah
[18:17] <mneptok> pH: http://ss64.com/bash/alias.html
[18:18] <b__> heh?quit
[18:18] <crazy-> mneptok; i don't know that's why i ask you.. the wireless chipset is installet on windows xp not on ubuntu
[18:18] <pH> mneptok: any way to do this without alias?
[18:18] <KDesk> hi, which are the default groups that the first user is part of?
[18:18] <b__> quit
[18:18] <mneptok> crazy-: well, in Windows, what does the OS say the wireless chipset is?
[18:18] <msds1502> I'm having an issue triple booting ubuntu and 2 versions of Windows from GRUB, can i get some help?
[18:18] <mneptok> crazy-: Broadcom? Intel? Realtek?
[18:18] <LjL> KDesk: mine probably include some more that aren't default, but here goes anyway: adm disk dialout cdrom floppy audio dip www-data video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin fuse sambashare vboxusers
[18:19] <KDesk> LjL: thanks!
[18:19] <crazy-> i seea Broadcom
[18:19] <crazy-> ;)
[18:19] <evilbug> what are supposed to be some issues with x64 ubuntu?
[18:19] <crazy-> Broadcom mneptok.
[18:19] <bc> my, how times have changed: http://linuxgazette.net/165/laycock.html
[18:19] <mneptok> crazy-: i'm not sure that the server edition includes support for restricted drivers like Broadcom
[18:19] <KDesk> LjL: I don't have 3D acceleration, and I don't belong to the video group, maybe that is the problem.
[18:19] <teflon> hello, i would like to ask if someone knows how to change the mirror apt uses in console mode
[18:20] <crazy-> and what i must do to got enternet ?
[18:20] <mohd> guys i have problem
[18:20] <mohd> i have wmv files ddint want to play
[18:20] <teflon> i installed ubunto over local lan
[18:20] <mohd> what to do ???
[18:20] <mneptok> teflon: sudo nano -w /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:20] <LjL> KDesk: i don't really know
[18:20] <mar> hey, I updated my 9.04 and my usb mouse isn't working now
[18:20] <teflon> thanks, i will try it out right now
[18:20] <mar> any ideas? :)
[18:20] <dotblank> Is it possible to boot a computer without a graphics card?
[18:21] <iceroot> !codecs | mohd
[18:21] <teflon> thank you very much, now i'm back on track
[18:21] <evilbug> dotblank: yes.
[18:21] <iceroot> dotblank: yes
[18:21] <evilbug> dotblank: because of onboard graphics.
[18:21] <dotblank> evilbug, what if it has none
[18:21] <Paschu> dotblank: yes
[18:21] <iceroot> evilbug: no, its also working without any vga-card
[18:21] <mohd> ubottu what kind of codec to download ?
[18:22] <dotblank> It has no onboard
[18:22] <xiphos> has anyone installed fragrouter on Jaunty?
[18:22] <evilbug> iceroot: right.
[18:22] <iceroot> xiphos: i guess anyone has installed it, answered your question? :)
[18:22] <dotblank> like i just want it to load the kernel and load vnc to share a xscreen
[18:22] <mar> hey, I updated my 9.04 and my usb mouse isn't working now. Any ideas?
[18:22] <evilbug> dotblank: you won't be getting an hd picture, but you'll be able to see things.
[18:22] <gbear14275> argh!!! I can't decide between a debian or ubuntu server based install for my new server... it will be using xen... and I have heard ubuntu is a little non standard (i tried installing it on my laptop but the nvidia video card got in the way).  Anyone here use xen with ubuntu and ideally, what are your experiences with it as well as management gui's?  (I don't want to configure my vm's by cli)
[18:23] <dotblank> But it has no monitor or card
[18:23] <evilbug> dotblank: no monitor? you can still boot the computer just not see anything.
[18:23] <make> ubuntu server to install oracle is ok??
[18:23] <xiphos> I was having some issues with compiling fragrouter on Jaunty to be more specific
[18:24] <iceroot> make: if you need oracle, yes
[18:24] <dotblank> evilbug, yes but will it run x and will it still run a vnc server?
[18:24] <iceroot> dotblank: no, x will not run
[18:24] <xiphos> I think its some kind of dependency / compatibility issue, but I wasn't sure
[18:24] <make> yes,i need use oracle 11g in linux
[18:24] <epsilon0> how do i install vmworstation on ubuntu?
[18:25] <iceroot> epsilon0: why not virtualbox?
[18:25] <bonez46> what is the CORRECT way to uninstall a package.. installed using apt-get.. so that it cleans out all the files, everywhere for that package?
[18:25] <iceroot> bonez46: sudo apt-get purge packetname
[18:25] <epsilon0> iceroot: its looks better
[18:25] <make> the oracle 11g on ubuntu server is ok?
[18:25] <stronze> im trying to go Root but when i enter my password i get auth fail.
[18:25] <LjL> bonez46: there isn't one, user-specific configuration files will be left behind.
[18:25] <iceroot> epsilon0: ok.....
[18:25] <epsilon0> :)
[18:25] <LjL> !root > stronze    (stronze, see the private message from ubottu)
[18:25] <epsilon0> why not
[18:26] <iceroot> epsilon0: normally its more important how well a software run and not hw good it is looking
[18:26] <dotblank> iceroot, is there a way to run a virtual x server with no display and then run vnc?
[18:26] <epsilon0> iceroot: i find both closly related
[18:26] <gbear14275> ah... I guess I'm learning more and more... does ubuntu not even support a dom0 instance of xen?
[18:26] <stronze> thanks ljl
[18:26] <Oldek> Hello
[18:26] <iceroot> dotblank: ssh -X will use your x-server
[18:26] <Oldek> I've got an issue
[18:27] <gbear14275> and isn't xen better than kvm?  or has kvm along with hardware virtualization support caught up?
[18:27] <bonez46> LjL: I am talking about all the localization files..all that stuff.. will iceroot's suggestion clean all those out too?
[18:27] <iceroot> dotblank: you can start an app on the "server" and see the gui at the client with ssh -X
[18:27] <manolo> Hi, when i click on a txt or php file appears a window that asking me for run, run in terminal or show the contents, i want always to show the contents, is there a way to remove that window?
[18:27] <stronze> ljl - learned something new today
[18:27] <make> kvm + ubuntu server + oracle 11g need memory is xxxG?
[18:27] <LjL> bonez46: yes, although you may also want to remove other packages that the page depends on - that woud be "sudo aptget --purge autoremove packagename"
[18:27] <iceroot> bonez46: sudo apt-get purge packetname will remove all a sudo apt-get install packetname has produced
[18:27] <mizipzor> taking an existing system, where the sound doesnt seem to be working, and there are loads of sound software installed (alsa, oss, pulseaudio, timidity)... what would be the best bet to get it working? uninstall everything and reinstall?
[18:27] <dotblank> iceroot, yea but that isnt the same... in an enviroment with windows and linux Xforwarding wont work well
[18:27] <tsrk_> when my kernel dies with a stacktrace, is there a way to get the full message (some of it has scrolled off the screen already)
[18:28] <dotblank> !xvnc
[18:28] <iceroot> dotblank: why need xserver?
[18:28] <dotblank> !xwnc
[18:28] <manolo> Hi, when i click on a txt or php file appears a window that asking me for run, run in terminal or show the contents, i want always to show the contents, is there a way to remove that window?
[18:28] <Hasanibrahim> good days, i wanna print a file but ubuntu didn't install driver of printer
[18:28] <bonez46> LjL: I guess I was thinking incorrectly.. I meant.. what if I have installed the tarball.. from source.. what about purging that?
[18:28] <legend2440> xiphos: try this  fragrouter_1.6-2.2_i386.deb  its made for intrepid but i think it will install     https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/i386/fragrouter/1.6-2.2
[18:28] <Stavros> hello
[18:29] <Stavros> i'm trying to install postgres but it doesn't seem to create a db on installation, any idea why?
[18:29] <LjL> bonez46: oh - you're completely on your own if you do that, there is no standard way at all.
[18:29] <iceroot> bonez46: you need a uninstall-script from the tarball
[18:29] <dotblank> iceroot, Basicly I want to connect to headless computer with no monitor or graphics card or onboard video and just create dynamic xsessions in vnc and connect to them remotely
[18:29] <Hasanibrahim> my printer is samsung scx-4100
[18:29] <LjL> bonez46: that's one of the big advantages of using proper packages to begin wth
[18:29] <Oldek> I've downloaded the 9.04 Server for x86 (32bit) system, and it seems to work installing apart from Boot loader. However I tried to download and install 8.04 instead and then it just wouldn't read the info on the disc after a while, and it asks me to retry, I've burnt a CD and DVD to try in slow burn speed, didnt work anyways, I need advice
[18:29] <mizipzor> what is the recommended sound software to use? is it alsa?
[18:29] <rincon1> how do i make gparted capable of creting and formating ntfs filesystems
[18:29] <manolo> Hi, when i click on a txt or php file appears a window that asking me for run, run in terminal or show the contents, i want always to show the contents, is there a way to remove that window?
[18:30] <bonez46> ok.. what command do I run to see where a package is installed?
[18:30] <make> mkfs.ntfs
[18:30] <daBomb69> rincon1, it should be able to by default
[18:30] <Hasanibrahim> manolo: click right mouse button
[18:30] <iceroot> bonez46: locate or find
[18:30] <make> use command is mkfs.ntfs..
[18:30] <Hasanibrahim> than properties
[18:30] <iceroot> bonez46: also whereis packetname
[18:30] <Hasanibrahim> than open with you know :)
[18:31] <xiphos> Thanks legend2440, Ill give it a shot
[18:31] <jackd> rincon1: sudo apt-get install ntfsprogs
[18:31] <Oldek> Anyone that could chat with me in private about Ubuntu servers? I need help
[18:31] <rincon1> jackd: will that update gparted ?
[18:31] <iceroot> !ask | Oldek
[18:31] <jackd> rincon1: yep will do
[18:32] <mar> hey, I updated my 9.04 and my usb mouse isn't working now. Any ideas?
[18:33] <legend2440> Oldek: if no one knows answer here there is channel #ubuntu-server
[18:33] <Oldek> I've downloaded the 9.04 Server for x86 (32bit) system, and it seems to work installing apart from Boot loader. However I tried to download and install 8.04 instead and then it just wouldn't read the info on the disc after a while, and it asks me to retry, I've burnt a CD and DVD to try in slow burn speed, didnt work anyways, I need advice, could anyone help me in private chat please?
[18:33] <clarinet> How to active mouse in console?
[18:33] <stronze> anyone know how to use netbean and help me out in pm on getting it configured so i can learn php?
[18:34] <clarinet> Does anyone know how to update system time using Internet?
[18:34] <grawity> clarinet: ntpdate does that, and Ubuntu should come with it preinstalled.
[18:34] <rincon1> jackd: thanks
[18:34] <jackd> rincon1: welcome
[18:34] <fosa_> where can I find out what the max internal HD capacity of my inspiron 1525 is?
[18:34] <stronze> anyone know how to use netbean and help me out in pm on getting it configured so i can learn php?
[18:35] <xiphos> legend2440, good thinking! That worked.
[18:35] <legend2440> xiphos: ok good
[18:35] <jackd> stronze: just install the php plugin inside netbeans. there is no special knowledge needed :)
[18:35] <mizipzor> im confused about all the soundparts, a mixer is something that puts many soundstreams together to one, as to not stress the hardware, correct? pulseaudio can be used for that... and alsa then maps a single stream down to the actual hardware, producing a hearable sound... am i way off?
[18:36] <^Einstein> clarinet: sudo apt-get install ntp
[18:37] <stronze> jackd - netbean guide said i needed to install apache server and i did sudo tasksel install lamp-server but im lost on checking the instalation step
[18:37] <bipul> hi all
[18:37] <Lord-Readman> hi
[18:37] <make> hi bipul
[18:38] <bipul> well i  am new in the field of linux
[18:38] <Lord-Readman> ask away
[18:38] <orksbane> hi bipul
[18:39] <Hasanibrahim> there are 1352 people in here but nobody helps other one :(
[18:39] <mar> ubuntu sux because my logitech mouse doesn't work on it after update
[18:39] <grawity> Hasanibrahim: Most of them are AFK.
[18:39] <jackd> stronze: try installing apache with php with: sudo apt-get install apache2 php5
[18:39] <clarinet> ^Einstein: What is that?
[18:40] <ByDeus> how do i tell cp to assume no to all overwrite questions
[18:40] <orksbane> unable to send dcc file transfers except in passive mode. No firewall, no router. All clients same problem. Ideas?
[18:40] <Hasanibrahim> grawity: half of them maybe AFK but others ?
[18:41] <Hasanibrahim> , i have a problem and i must solve it immediately :(
[18:41] <JohnCDI1> ditto
[18:41] <[texas]> geirha, i did it and i wrote down where it stops and i have to press space or enter
[18:41] <grawity> Hasanibrahim: If nobody helps you, that means nobody knows.
[18:41] <dremits> hey is there a mail server that doesn't require there to be a unix user per mail account, but instead you can just create a mail user within the servers interface?
[18:42] <GArReT> Hi guys. Today i downloaded and installed The newest ubuntu on my computer...
[18:42] <stronze> jackd - 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[18:42] <GArReT> But i have a problem... i cant find TCL nor Building Essentials
[18:42] <GArReT> where can i get it?
[18:42] <make> Hasanibrahim I said in Chinese. To be translated. Slow the Arab-Israeli
[18:42] <[texas]> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[18:42] <jackd> stronze: ok so write to your console: whereis php - you will receive the path of your php binary. this one you can set in your php options inside netbeans and it should work
[18:42] <grawity> GArReT: Open a package manager (System -> Administration -> Synaptic), or if you prefer, go to Terminal, and install the 'build-essential' and 'tcl' packages.
[18:43] <clarinet> How to use ntp to update time?
[18:43] <JohnCDI1> does anyone know anything about getting the broadcom 4306 to work with jaunty  its stuck at 1Mb/s if you force it higher it just quits
[18:43] <legend2440> Hasanibrahim: http://www.elijahlofgren.com/linux/ubuntu/#scx-4100
[18:43] <GArReT> grawity, i cant find it in there
[18:43] <GArReT> i've already been in there
[18:43] <rincon1> what should i install to listen to microsoft multimedia streaming
[18:43] <[texas]> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[18:43] <stronze> jackd -
[18:43] <stronze> stronze@stronze-laptop:~$ whereis php
[18:43] <stronze> php:
[18:43] <Hasanibrahim> thanks all i will try
[18:44] <make> ntpdate ip
[18:44] <meanburrito920_> is anyone aware of a google calendar that tracks the ubuntu release cycle?
[18:44] <grawity> GArReT: How about "apt-get install build-essential"?
[18:44] <JohnCDI1> guess not?
[18:44] <GArReT> i tried that... and it said something about cant find build-essential
[18:44] <GArReT> let me just have a look again
[18:44] <DouglasK> Question ... is it normal for Evolution to not display images in HTML mail even after  you select view, "Load Images"  (Ubuntu Jaunty)
[18:44] <[texas]> even without messing with the repos, it should have it
[18:44] <jackd> stronze: ok my fault. install php5-cli :) sudo apt-get install php5-cli
[18:44] <grawity> GArReT: Pastebin your sources.list please?
[18:45] <jackd> stronze: it should be located then in /etc/php5. this path you can set in your netbeans php options
[18:45] <clarinet> ^Einstein: It worked, thanks.
[18:45] <JohnCDI1> try looking for build-essential in synaptic if or some reason it wont work in terminal
[18:45] <[texas]> JohnCDI, he did
[18:45] <mechtech> how do I mount a ISO?
[18:45] <JohnCDI1> oh
[18:45] <stronze> jackd -
[18:45] <stronze> stronze@stronze-laptop:~$ whereis php
[18:45] <stronze> php: /usr/bin/php /usr/share/man/man1/php.1.gz
[18:45] <Besogon> ubuntu desktop switcher 0.4.4 don't work fine with my UNR
[18:45] <Flannel> grawity: If you just installed, have you updated your package cache? (reload button in synaptic, or sudo apt-get update)
[18:45] <JohnCDI1> i think i had this problem when i first installed
[18:45] <losher> extor: still there?
[18:45] <stronze> stronze@stronze-laptop:~$
[18:45] <make> mount -o loop xxx.iso /mnt
[18:45] <FloodBot2> stronze: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:46] <grawity> mechtech: mkdir cd; sudo mount -o loop file.iso cd/
[18:46] <datacrusher> anyone gots atheros ar242x on ubuntu 64?
[18:46] <extor> ya sorry
[18:46] <extor> whatdid you say
[18:46] <JohnCDI1> yea
[18:46] <jackd> stronze: /usr/bin/php <-- this is your php binary
[18:46] <JohnCDI1> reload synaptic like flannel said
[18:46] <mechtech> grawity: I have to make a directory called cd first?
[18:47] <make> yes cd cd/
[18:47] <meanburrito920_> what happened to google calendar's public calendar search"
[18:47] <grawity> mechtech: Yes. You can call it anything you want, actually, but 'mount' always requires an empty directory.
[18:47] <grawity> meanburrito920_: Ask Google.
[18:47] <DouglasK> is this a good channel to ask questions about issues with Evolution?
[18:47] <mechtech> grawity: thanks
[18:47] <rincon1> xmms2-plugin-all - XMMS2 - all plugins ?
[18:47] <meanburrito920_> qrawity: i am, they aren't saying
[18:47] <ralphte> Trying ti fix audio on jaunty 9.04. I have a asus p5q-em board and i am trying to get the audio working and i am having NO luck. I am running ver 1.20 of alsa. have checked the fourms no luck looking for some help thanks.
[18:47] <dremits> hey is there a command that will apply chmod to all files and directories including the directory itself?
[18:47] <JohnCDI1> what are you trying to get evolution to work with im sure if you google it almost everything has been done
[18:47] <grawity> dremits: chmod -R
[18:47] <mechtech> !ask
[18:47] <Flannel> dremits: What are you trying to chmod?
[18:48] <grawity> !google | JohnCDI1
[18:48] <legend2440> Hasanibrahim: you still there?
[18:48] <GArReT> grawity, i'm just restarting my ubuntu pc again... i'll be back in 15 minutes... need to go help my mother
[18:48] <rufensis> Anyone have a clue how to fix "Grub error 2"? I got an old dell desktop from  a friend and it has xp on its hd.  i'm replacing it with a hd with ubuntu (hardy, i think) and it gets hung up on boot.
[18:48] <losher> extor: nothing. I was on the phone. We were talking about running from ramdisk. Unetbootin claims it can install from an iso direct to hard drive. If you can do that with a live cd, you could, in theory, boot off the hard drive into a memory only copy of Ubuntu i.e. no disks mounted. *Much* easier to have someone just slip in the live cd to a reader though
[18:48] <dremits> grawity: thanks. does that come striaght after the numbers or before
[18:48] <Flannel> dremits: What are you trying to chmod?
[18:48] <DouglasK> JohnCDI, I can receive standard mail without issue, but for html mail, the View, Load Images command fails.
[18:48] <dremits> flannel my www folder
[18:49] <grawity> dremits: Before.
[18:49] <losher> extor: and of course, one mistake and you could find youself with a dead system that you can't bring up remotely....
[18:49] <Flannel> dremits: chmod it to what?  You'd be better putting yourself in the www-data group, and then making it group writable, rather than making it world writable.
[18:49] <mohd> ubottu y wmv files cosider a restricted files ?
[18:49] <extor> losher yeah thats where the redundant features of GRUB2 come into play
[18:49] <stronze> jackd - To check that Apache and PHP are installed and running, open NetBeans IDE and create a PHP project. In the index.php file, enter the PHP method phpinfo(). Run the file. The standard PHP information page should display.    this is where im stuck
[18:49] <rincon1> what should i install to open mms in firefox ?
[18:49] <dremits> flannel: sorry i mean i'm going to chmod 775
[18:50] <grawity> rincon1: VLC.
[18:50] <Merlhin> yep
[18:50] <losher> extor: boy, you like to live dangerously. Maybe we should step back a bit. What are you planning to actually *do* to your server, assuming you get it booted to ramdisk?
[18:50] <Flannel> dremits: You should actually not use 775 (the numbers) but instead do: g+w
[18:50] <mohd> ubottu y wmv files consider a restricted files ?
[18:50] <Besogon> ubuntu desktop switcher 0.4.4 don't work fine with my UNR. Is there someone who make that work?
[18:50] <dremits> flannel: oh right why?
[18:50] <jackd> stronze: tell me what you have already tried to solve this.
[18:50] <legend2440> Hasanibrahim: try this first   http://www.infinitedesigns.org/archives/254
[18:51] <losher> mohd: wmv is a windows propietary format, so yes, I think it's 'restricted'
[18:51] <Flannel> dremits: Because you don't want things that don't have the executable bit already set to have them set (you don't want a random file to be executable)
[18:51] <extor> losher, I want to install a different version of linux on it and then install windows on another partion using an answer file
[18:51] <chief27> hi. can anyone help. I've installed virtualbox-ose via the add/remove programs. It appears in the list but it doesnt open when i click on it
[18:51] <make> mohd try use mplayer to play
[18:51] <mohd> ok
[18:51] <JohnCDI1> douglas i believe theres some stuff in preferences with evolution that has some options like always load images and html if present
[18:51] <DouglasK> JohnCDI, I'll try it.... thanks.
[18:51] <Flannel> dremits: If you needed to set the executable bit on those directories, you'd use +X (not +x) which will add executable only if its already set somewhere (if it was for some reason 744 or something, you could add the executable to that directory)
[18:51] <losher> extor: so you need to repartition the root disk to make room for 2 new distros?
[18:52] <JohnCDI1> i dont know if possibly it could be unchecked
[18:52] <dremits> Flannel: how do the letters differ from the numbers in chmod?
[18:52] <extor> losher, yeah basically
[18:52] <stronze> jackd - just followed their guide,created new progect - test1 - phpinfo()  - right click run - The requested URL /test1/index.php was not found on this server.
[18:52] <mechtech> how to unmount?
[18:52] <Flannel> dremits: 775 says "set *this* permission" using +/- stuff says "add this permission to whatever was already there"
[18:52] <grawity> mechtech: sudo umount directory/
[18:52] <make> sudo umount dir
[18:52] <mechtech> grawity: thanks...I did unmount with no effect :)
[18:53] <dremits> Flannel thanks
[18:53] <losher> extor: well, I can think of workarounds, but nothing bulletproof....
[18:53] <jackd> stronze: have you saved the projekt to your apache www folder? or at least: are you sure that netbeans will copy it to your www folder befor launching it?
[18:53] <brandon95g> im not shurif any of you helped me last night but i got flash to work
[18:53] <DouglasK> JohnCDI1, .... nope, same thing.  thanks for tryin.  mebbe a bug.
[18:53] <make> umount don't use the dir
[18:53] <TheBase> exit
[18:53] <TheBase> lol
[18:53] <extor> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GRUB
[18:54] <stronze> jackd - i got no clue what you said,i decided i wanted to learn php last night and wanted to be able to test php coding as i learn it
[18:54] <JohnCDI1> does it say anything about load images only from contacts? or load all images?
[18:54] <DouglasK> I have it set to load all images..
[18:54] <zargonovski> hey got question plz
[18:55] <zargonovski> in launchpad
[18:55] <JohnCDI1> hmm
[18:55] <zargonovski> Homepage Content:  (Optional) does i take html tags
[18:55] <jackd> stronze: hehe. i noticed it :) look. your apache www folder is usually in /var/www so your browser told you that /test1/index.php was not found. so it means that /var/www/test1/index.php is missing
[18:55] <mOrO^> I have a ZEN mp3 player, my puter recognizes it, allows me to transfer files to it, but when I fire up the player it doesnt list the new songs?
[18:56] <losher> extor: when it comes down to it, the best method is still to get someone on-site to boot from the live-cd, then install openssh, then you can do whatever you want with the disks. Anything else is basically unsupported, and you risk being unable to recover from a mistake...
[18:56] <DouglasK> johncdi1 ... it is consistent across all messages and multiple imap accounts.
[18:56] <JohnCDI1> i remember it used to be ctrl+i i'll look around for something what do you have it set up for ie gmail or what
[18:56] <DouglasK> Ctrl+I starts the loadig, but the images never are shown.
[18:56] <dremits> hey is there a mail server that doesn't require there to be a unix user per mail account, but instead you can just create a mail user within the servers interface?
[18:56] <rincon1> grawity: thanks
[18:57] <zargonovski> no bad boy
[18:57] <zargonovski> i'm out
[18:57] <guest12345> i just installed ubuntu and it will not allow me to update it. it says that i don't have enough disk space. but i have well over 15 gigs of free memory. i also have windows xp on this computer, could that be causing problems?
[18:57] <DouglasK> JohnCDI1, do you think it might be owing to it being imap?
[18:58] <Flannel> dremits: The term you're looking for is "virtual users", and there's a few that support it (if not all).  Which mail program are you familiar with?
[18:58] <DouglasK> guest12345, what do you get when you type df -h at a terminal?
[18:58] <guest12345> not sure, hold on
[18:58] <JohnCDI1> if you receive mail without a problem i dont see why it wont let you dl images
[18:59] <DouglasK> JohnCDI1, nor do I.  well, I'll dig some more, watch the net connections, etc.
[18:59] <guest12345> Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[18:59] <guest12345> /dev/sda5             3.7G  3.6G     0 100% /
[18:59] <guest12345> tmpfs                 502M     0  502M   0% /lib/init/rw
[18:59] <guest12345> varrun                502M  108K  501M   1% /var/run
[18:59] <guest12345> varlock               502M     0  502M   0% /var/lock
[18:59] <guest12345> udev                  502M  152K  501M   1% /dev
[18:59] <FloodBot2> guest12345: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:59] <dremits> Flannel: none to be perfectly honest. i used mercury in windows which allowed the creation of users in a list in the application
[18:59] <grawity> guest12345: Well, you don't have _any_ free space.
[19:00] <mOrO^> Anyone have experience with ZEN mp3 players?
[19:00] <edbian> guest12345: "sudo apt-get clean" might clear up some for you.
[19:00] <grawity> guest12345: tmpfs, varrun, varlock, and udev are _virtual_ filesystems - they only exist in RAM.
[19:00] <guest12345> if i log onto windows xp it shows i have plenty
[19:00] <DouglasK> guest12345, your linux root partition is full.   it can't use the space in widows.
[19:01] <grawity> guest12345: First, Ubuntu doesn't know about your Windows partition yet.
[19:01] <grawity> guest12345: Second, you _must_ have free space in the Ubuntu partition for it to work correctly.
[19:01] <guest12345> is there a way to reinstall ubuntu and take that free space?
[19:01] <edbian> guest12345: Do you have gparted installed?  It will give you a clearer picture of how your harddrive is partitioned :)
[19:01] <guest12345> not sure
[19:02] <GArReT> grawity, ok i'm back. When I Do "Sudo apt-get install build-essential" it says "Could not find package"
[19:02] <guest12345> where can i find gparted?
[19:02] <JohnCDI1> douglask http://www.mail-archive.com/evolution@lists.ximian.com/msg02045.html
[19:02] <wdbl> is there a way to put the "User Switcher" applet in my "Main Menu" instead of on a panel?
[19:02] <grawity> guest12345: "sudo aptitude install gparted"
[19:02] <edbian> guest12345: If you have it it's in System -> Admin
[19:02] <Flannel> !smtp | dremits
[19:02] <grawity> GArReT: Can you try "sudo apt-get update"?
[19:02] <edbian> grawity: His / is full :)
[19:02] <bipul> hi
[19:02] <grawity> edbian: Ahh, good point. Forgot.
[19:03] <stronze> jackd - only thing in it is a html file that displays as IT WORKS!. trying to get test1 to save as html file atm
[19:03] <bipul> i am new tonux li
[19:03] <GArReT> grawity, i will need the internet for this right?
[19:03] <clarinet> Anyone know how to read/write ext3 file system in WinXP?
[19:03] <grawity> GArReT: Yes.
[19:03] <edbian> guest12345: You need to find some program that you can stand to get rid of to make room.  Either that a boot a live CD.  live CD has gparted installed by default.
[19:04] <guest12345> it said [sudo] password for bean:
[19:04] <guest12345> Sorry, try again.
[19:04] <bipul> hi as i am new to linux
[19:04] <guest12345> it would,t let me type a password
[19:04] <bipul> so any one tell me
[19:04] <myguy> how do i use synaptic package manager?
[19:04] <grawity> guest12345: It just doesn't show anything, but it does accept the password.
[19:04] <jackd> stronze: jep thats the default apache file. its always there after you have installed it. so you can be sure now that you know where your www directory is :) just create a file there - say "test.php" and try to code there php with your favorite texteditor. :)
[19:04] <edbian> myguy: Be more specific. How do you open it?  How do you install packages... etc etc
[19:04] <grawity> myguy: You open it, choose which packages to install/update/remove, click "Apply" button, wait for it to do things.
[19:04] <dremits> Flannel so would courier be my option?
[19:05] <stronze> okay
[19:05] <Flannel> dremits: That first page gives a few Mail Delivery agents.  Dovecot and Courier are the ones I'd recommend.  I'm familiar with Dovecot, not so courier, but that page even gives virtual users as an example, so Courier might be what you'd look into first.
[19:05] <Flannel> dremits: Dovecot does virtual users too (I've never used virtual users, but google told me so!)
[19:05] <myguy> thank you!
[19:05] <DouglasK> JohnCDI1, thanks, but nope... I set it for direct connection, cleared the http cache, restarted the program and same.
[19:05] <kid> who is responsible for minimizing and maximizing windows in a linux system? window manager? or sth else
[19:05] <DouglasK> kid, the wm
[19:05] <dremits> Flannel: cheers.
[19:05] <guest12345> could i possibly remove ubuntu and reinstall it and use the free memory i have from windows?
[19:06] <jackd> stronze: if you save a file in your www for example /var/www/test1.php you should open it then to test using your browser with the adress: http://localhost/test1.php ... you get it i think
[19:06] <edbian> kid: The window manager.  Metacity (or compiz) by default in ubuntu
[19:06] <grawity> kid: The window manager - usually Metacity or Compiz (in GNOME).
[19:06] <grawity> guest12345: You can just resize the partitions.
[19:06] <edbian> guest12345: If you boot a live CD and start gparted you can resize (shrink and grow) your partitions without reinstalling anything.
[19:06] <GArReT> grawity, how much CAP will this update need?
[19:06] <DouglasK> guest12345, you could.  I'd recommend getting a friend over to your house who is a serious linux geek to do it, just to be safe.
[19:06] <guest12345> i'm guessing i should shrink windows, right?
[19:06] <DouglasK> guest12345, I would, yep.
[19:07] <edbian> guest12345: What is the output of "sudo fdisk -l" ??  That will show us all of your harddrives and their partitions (paste bin it)
[19:07] <Guest93544> trollboy are you there
[19:07] <grawity> GArReT: I have no idea what does 'CAP' mean, but apt-get update only re-downloads the package lists, shouldn't be more than a few megs. (Probably less.)
[19:08] <GArReT> CAP = how much meg will it take :)
[19:08] <GArReT> but let me first install the internet on it
[19:09] <stronze> jackd - i created a file in text editor and attempted to save var/www but it denies me.even tried saving to desktop and moving to that folder
[19:09] <guest12345> Disk /dev/sda: 40.0 GB, 40007761920 bytes
[19:09] <guest12345> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 4864 cylinders
[19:09] <guest12345> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[19:09] <guest12345> Disk identifier: 0xcccdcccd
[19:09] <guest12345>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[19:09] <guest12345> /dev/sda1   *           1        4347    34917246    7  HPFS/NTFS
[19:09] <FloodBot2> guest12345: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:10] <mikebeecham> hi guys...I have a conky question....is there any way to create a semi-transparent panel than will sit underneath my gnome panel, but behind any conky text?
[19:10] <jackd> stronze: yep if you are the only user on the machine (or if you dont care about the folders local protection) simply change the permission of it: sudo chmod -R a+w /var/www
[19:10] <edbian> guest12345: I said to pastebin it
[19:10] <guest12345> sorry i didn't know how to pastebin
[19:10] <jackd> stronze: so every user of your system can write to this directory
[19:10] <edbian> !pastebin
[19:10] <theatro> http://pastebin.gr http://pastebin.com http://pastebin.ca http://nopaste.info http://codepad.org
[19:10] <theatro> http://pastebin.gr http://pastebin.com http://pastebin.ca http://nopaste.info http://codepad.org
[19:10] <grawity> guest12345: Go to http://paste.ubuntu.com/, paste your text there, click Submit, and give us the address.
[19:10] <grawity> theatro: Could you pastebin that list instead of flooding? :)
[19:11] <Flannel> !pastebin
[19:11] <codeshah> my ubuntu seems a bit lagged all of a sudden - how can I check what is taking up memory?
[19:11] <theatro> http://pastebin.gr http://pastebin.com http://pastebin.ca http://nopaste.info http://codepad.org
[19:11] <theatro> http://pastebin.gr http://pastebin.com http://pastebin.ca http://nopaste.info http://codepad.org
[19:12] <edbian> codeshah: "top" or the "System Monitor"
[19:12] <mikebeecham> or another way...can text in conky sit on it's own panel?
[19:12] <imre> hello
[19:12] <guest12345> like this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/242298/
[19:12] <imre> is there any who knows turkih
[19:12] <grawity> guest12345: Yes.
[19:12] <edbian> guest12345: excellent
[19:13] <JohnCDI1> bcm4306 jaunty 1MB/s bitrate anyone know how to get past this? cant force the rate doesnt work tried b43 and ndis cant get ndis to even connect any help?
[19:13] <GodfatherofEire> Quick question guys, is it possible to set a GRUB option for shutdown?
[19:13] <jondavis> hay can any-one help me get back flash player.something is roung and I can not play flash videos on cbs.com or hulu any more
[19:13] <kalib> Hi guys. I have an microsd reader in my desktop... The fact is.. I can't receive any message in dmesg when I put my card..
[19:13] <grawity> guest12345: If you had any free space in /, I would ask you to add this line to /etc/fstab... /dev/sda1 /media/windows ntfs-3g auto,fmask=0111,dmask=0000,utf8,uid=1000 0 0
[19:13] <edbian> guest12345: Yeah all you have to do is "shrink" the windows partitions a bit and "grow" the linux partition a bit.  Use a live CD and gparted :)
[19:13] <kalib> Hi guys. I have an microsd reader in my desktop... The fact is.. I can't receive any message in dmesg when I put my card...
[19:13] <wdbl> why is this main menu so hard to edit? The editor doesn't even work right. The editor doesn't seem to properly represent what is showing in the menus..
[19:13] <imre> hello i counld not update my ubuntu
[19:14] <kalib> does any one knows how to fix it?:
[19:14] <GArReT> grawity, isnt there a place where i can download the Build essentials and TCL without doing the "update" function
[19:14] <JohnCDI1> guess not.
[19:14] <grawity> GArReT: http://packages.ubuntu.com/ , but why do you need that?
[19:14] <GArReT> since i cant download 100 mb of updates!
[19:14] <cparzewski> hi everyonbe
[19:14] <Flannel> GArReT: If you can't connect to the internet, build-essential is available on your Ubuntu CD.
[19:14] <jondavis> i just said what i need help on so can anyone help me plese
[19:14] <grawity> GArReT: Um, the 'update' command only downloads the package _list_
[19:14] <guest12345> ok thanks guys
[19:14] <guest12345> i really appreciate the help
[19:14] <jackd> jondavis: maybe sudo apt-get install flashplayer-installer
[19:14] <Flannel> GArReT: You don't need to upgrade, you only need to update.  Which doesn't download packages.  As other's have said.
[19:15] <jondavis> i have
[19:15] <edbian> jondavis: Open synaptic and search "flash"  Do some flash sites work?  youtube for example?
[19:15] <jackd> jondavis: tried to remove and reinstall it?
[19:15] <imre> i could not update the ubuntu
[19:15] <GArReT> hmmm let me just get the internet up and going on the ubuntu computer then i'll get back to you guys
[19:15] <jondavis> but it seem's to not be working right way
[19:15] <GodfatherofEire> imre, you'll have to be a little more specific than that to get some help
[19:15] <TLNGuest45722> hello everyone! what's going on?
[19:15] <rincon1> i installed vlc but i can not open mms
[19:16] <edbian> jondavis: If you have more than 1 flash player installed they conflict with each other.  Also the open source one does not work on all sites :).  Search "flash" in synaptic and tell me which ones if you have installed.
[19:16] <Besogon> TLNGuest45722, evening
[19:16] <jondavis> it is also telling that java is not working as well
[19:16] <jondavis>  on youtube
[19:16] <cparzewski> hi there. im having some trouble with madwifi http://pastebin.com/m6904b904
[19:16] <edbian> jondavis: Please being your posts with the name of the person you're talking to.
[19:16] <edbian> jondavis: Did you search synaptic?
[19:16] <TLNGuest45722> jondavis: what you need is ubuntu-restircted-extras
[19:16] <gartral> alright, my computer has a failing PSU, i have no money to replace said failing PSU, is there any way i can force it too stay stable? any at all? ive removed all non-essential hardware, ive underclocked, ive started running with enlightenment on minimalist settings... i need a software>hardware command that forces the system to ignore power interupts
[19:17] <iPhreak> argh im having some crazy issues with my iphone via Backtrack3, its driving me INSANE
[19:17] <edbian> gartral: No amount of tweaking software is going to help failing hardware :(
[19:17] <Besogon> jondavis, Just install all what you need (original jave is presented in repositary)
[19:17] <PeterFA> How would I find out the top issues that occur with Linux on the desktop?
[19:17] <jackd> cparzewski: ./configure went well?
[19:17] <imre> godfatherofeire
[19:17] <GodfatherofEire> imre, yes?
[19:17] <imre> i opened the update manager
[19:18] <PeterFA> This way I have stuff to post on my site: www.linux-starter.com
[19:18] <gartral> edbian: i dont need tweeks, i need a way to keep this thing on.. its my only lines of communication..
[19:18] <mikebeecham> hi guys...is there any way to get conky text onto it's own background or panel?
[19:18] <edbian> gartral: I can't think of anything :(
[19:18] <djisamsoe> cparzewski: have you run make
[19:18] <relentless> Hi, I am tryign to use KDE remotly on ubuntu, how do I starrt kde?
[19:18] <imre> and try to update but
[19:18] <imre> at last
[19:18] <djisamsoe> cparzewski: hav you run make?
[19:18] <cparzewski> i have to run make first, dont i?
[19:18] <Hydrid> i have 9.04 and when i play media files (totem,vlc) the machine gets very slow,e.g to click something is very difficult,very big lag,and when i go to full screen its worst(freezes for a while everything,and if ti eventually shows its like in slow motion and sound is delayed ( p4 2,8ghz 4 gb ram, ati 3850 agp 512 mb)
[19:18] <imre> there is sentence
[19:18] <cparzewski> the error is with make install
[19:18] <imre> you can not update because of the networkşng ststem
[19:18] <rincon1> what should i install to open mms in firefox ?
[19:19] <jackd> cparzewski: ./configure && make && sudo make install
[19:19] <jondavis> I have a lot of things that say flash but i am not sure what is the real on .also last knight i also install some stuff on my comp.and now i cant seen to play any videos on youtube or on cbs.com in the usa where i live in
[19:19] <djisamsoe> cparzewski: i know that... but have you run make before that?
[19:19] <Alien_FX_Fiend> hey justin
[19:19] <iPhreak> sup man
[19:19] <kalib> Hi guys. I have an microsd reader in my desktop... The fact is.. I can't receive any message in dmesg when I put my card...
[19:19] <jondavis> can any one help me out plese one on one
[19:19] <cparzewski> only make?
[19:19] <cparzewski> make
[19:19] <cparzewski> make install
[19:19] <edbian> jondavis: Uninstall all of the packages except "flashplugin-nonfree"
[19:19] <cparzewski> like this?
[19:19] <FloodBot2> cparzewski: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:20] <edbian> jondavis: flashplugin-nonfree is the proprietary adobe flash player 10 :)
[19:20] <jondavis> ok i will try that then
[19:20] <GodfatherofEire> anybody else have a problem upgrading to jaunty cause of network configs?
[19:20] <jackd> cparzewski: yes and ./configure at first
[19:20] <imre> besides that i try to screenshot but, i can not do
[19:20] <imre> yes also i have god
[19:20] <cparzewski> hm.. ill try
[19:20] <djisamsoe> cparzewski: if you talking to me, please insert my nick on the beginning of your line, so that i will know if someone talking to me...
[19:20] <gartral> GodfatherofEire: im having networking problems, but at this point, it could be one of 1000 things with my comp >.<
[19:21] <cparzewski> make did some stuff, ill do make install after, and .configure
[19:21] <marctw> hen you do a git clone ubuntu-jaunty  .... how do you then choose what kernel version and files you want to use?
[19:21] <cparzewski> sorry djisamsoe
[19:21] <marctw> When you do a git clone ubuntu-jaunty  .... how do you then choose what kernel version and files you want to use?
[19:21] <GodfatherofEire> imre, i know, im asking anyone else in the channel if they've run into such a problem, but I personally havent dealt with that issue before, at least not under jaunty, so I dont quite know how to help you
[19:21] <rincon1> what should i install to open microsoft multimedia streming in firefox?
[19:21] <grawity> rincon1: VLC.
[19:21] <iPhreak> can someone answer a few questions about adhoc wireless?
[19:21] <GodfatherofEire> if there's anyone in here who has run into that before, then they would probably be able to help you
[19:21] <gartral> !wait | marctw
[19:21] <djisamsoe> cparzewski: before you run make, run: make uninstall  first
[19:22] <gartral> !patience | marctw
[19:22] <rincon1> grawity: i installed vlc but i can not open http://www.telepuertovirtual2.tv/rnvnoticias
[19:23] <gartral> marctw: why did you git-clone and not just update?
[19:23] <file_file> rincon1: what's your problem ?
[19:24] <rincon1> i can not open http://www.telepuertovirtual2.tv/rnvnoticias on my browser
[19:24] <file_file> rincon1: is that a video file ?
[19:24] <rincon1> no
[19:24] <cparzewski> djisamsoe, well, iv runned make, and then make install. got no errors now
[19:24] <cparzewski> but still dont got my ath on iwconfig
[19:24] <rincon1> it is  mmsh protocol streming
[19:24] <dieter_> Hallo! Kann mir jemand mit ubuntu helfen. Kann leider keine Mails abholen, da immer die Meldung kommt "Indentifikation fehlt"
[19:24] <cparzewski> whereas it shows on lspci
[19:24] <TheBase> hello
[19:25] <djisamsoe> cparzewski: what madwifi version are you installing?
[19:25] <Flannel> !de | dieter_
[19:25] <file_file> rincon1: what's the format of that file ?
[19:25] <dieter_> Ok, Danke
[19:25] <cparzewski> 0.9.4
[19:25] <rincon1> mmsh
[19:25] <cparzewski> ubuntu hardy lts
[19:25] <cparzewski> 64
[19:25] <file_file> rincon1: sudo apt-get install smplayer
[19:25] <TheBase> I'm running a 64bits version of ubuntu. How do I find out the default compilation target (like elf64)?
[19:26] <DouglasK> JohnCDI, I had that issue and there are two solutions.  1. compile a kernel from the most recent unstable branch, but even then it's an unstable card.  2. get a different card that doesn't use the b43legacy module.
[19:26] <cparzewski> just got it from madwifi site
[19:26] <djisamsoe> cparzewski: try this: sudo modprobe ath_pci
[19:26] <pH> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7716858#post7716858 -> ideas? :P
[19:26] <iPhreak> im trying to connect my backtrack3 via iphone to share the internet connection, ive setup my wlan0 to ad-hoc and for some reason its not broadcasting the ssid to my iphone.. im using the iwlwifi4965 driver, any suggestions?
[19:27] <JohnCDI1> yea my card is onboard
[19:27] <JohnCDI1> and i updated to 2.6.30
[19:27] <JohnCDI1> with no luck
[19:27] <DiegoTc>  /msg NickServ identify setokaiba
[19:27] <cparzewski> djisamsoe, the command returned nothing. iwconfig still gets only the lo and eth0
[19:27] <rincon1> file_file: thanks, i am installing and triying with smplayer.
[19:27] <JohnCDI1> DouglasK thanks for the answer though
[19:27] <erUSUL> DiegoTc: you typed an extra space... :| change your password everybody has seen it
[19:28] <Knirgh> Hello, i am having some problems with local networking (samba), i cannot see my ubuntu box on my windows computer
[19:28] <cparzewski> djisamsoe, im following this tutorial from the site http://madwifi-project.org/wiki/UserDocs/FirstTimeHowTo
[19:28] <b3rz3rk3r> howdy all
[19:28] <djisamsoe> cparzewski: sudo ifconfig wifi0 up;sudo ifconfig ath0 up
[19:28] <gami> je recherche la conversation en français silvouplai
[19:29] <GodfatherofEire> I think... I just broke physics
[19:29] <Flannel> !fr | gami
[19:29] <DouglasK> JohnCDI, then definitely try a diff card.  Around here, they're maybe $30 CAD at the local small computer shop
[19:29] <b3rz3rk3r> GodfatherofEire, lol.. nice
[19:29] <b3rz3rk3r> GodfatherofEire, how?
[19:29] <GodfatherofEire> a speaker drawing power from the area around it
[19:29] <cparzewski> djisamsoe, http://pastebin.com/d85c9819
[19:29] <GodfatherofEire> well, I guess it was more windows 7 that broke it but eh
[19:29] <stronze> konversation and netbean open opera as my default browser but i have firefox set as my default in prefence-prefred app.i want everything to open firefox but i cant get it to
[19:29] <JohnCDI1> DouglasK yea ive got a D-link usb i can use actually which worked flawlessly just plug n play i was surprised
[19:29] <b3rz3rk3r> GodfatherofEire, ah.. win 7.. say no more :p
[19:29] <GodfatherofEire> Seeing as how it didnt start till it tried registering the wireless
[19:30] <DouglasK> JohnCDI, I replaced mine with a Broadcom BCM4318 that uses the b43 module.
[19:31] <djisamsoe> cparzewski: what is your system actually?
[19:32] <JohnCDI1> DouglasK, You had no problems with it? Just think its the 4306? I've been assuming it was a driver issue for the most part. I just got the thing and never put windows on it so far all I know the connection could be garbage on the windows side.
[19:32] <iPhreak>  im trying to connect my backtrack3 via iphone to share the internet connection, ive setup my wlan0 to ad-hoc and for some reason its not broadcasting the ssid to my iphone.. im using the iwlwifi4965 driver, any suggestions?
[19:32] <vikash> hi guys
[19:32] <stronze> konversation and netbean open opera as my default browser but i have firefox set as my default in prefence-prefred app.i want everything to open firefox but i cant get it to
[19:32] <vikash> i am getting ata softreset failed : device not ready when i boot ubuntu 9
[19:33] <DouglasK> JohnCDI, I've had no problems at all.  the 4318 is plug 'n play.
[19:33] <peterkirn> Does anyone have a sense of how to address tearing on video playback with the proprietary NVIDIA drivers? Yeah, I know -- they're proprietary. But it does seem NVIDIA has put some significant work into them, so I feel like I'm missing something. Back-end doesn't matter, from gstreamer/vlc to Flash. Forcing v-hold from nvidia-settings seems not to help, which would be my usualy strategy.
[19:33] <cparzewski> djisamsoe, my system specs http://pastebin.com/d5f19dc50
[19:33] <iPhreak> anyone here know anything about ad-hoc networks?
[19:34] <DouglasK> JohnCDI1,  It's not the card, it's the module.  and the 4318 uses a different module
[19:34] <vikash> ata softreset failed
[19:35] <legend2440> stronze: in terminal type   sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser   and choose default. see if that works
[19:35] <djisamsoe> cparzewski: i heard that madwifi won't run on 64-bit platform, try ndiswrapper then
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[19:35] <datacrusher> hm
[19:35] <datacrusher> oh, ok!
[19:35] <Flannel> gami: Please stop that.
[19:36] <gami> oulala exsez moi c'était mon petit frère qui écrit nimportequoi
[19:36] <gami> excusez
[19:36] <pratik_narain> i can't get 3d to work on my dell inspiron laptop.
[19:36] <JohnCDI1> DouglasK, yea i'm thinking that im having a conflict somewhere when trying to set it up b43 connects with the slow rate and ndiswrapper i think is having a conflict with ssb even when i set it up to where lshw shows the module as ndis plus the driver it shows my networks but wont successfully connect and im back to square one lol
[19:36] <pratik_narain> any help
[19:36] <Flannel> gami: /join #ubuntu-fr
[19:37] <stronze> legend2440 hello again.it fixed netbeen problem but not konversation
[19:37] <DouglasK> JohnCDI1, I used ndiswrapper with the 4306, but it was very unstable, lots of trouble connecting.  So, I finally broke down and spent the money.  well worth it.
[19:37] <mechtech> aargh...trsnmission won't start now!
[19:37] <sol93> My login screen shows extremely big text, how can I reset/reinstall this program?
[19:38] <JohnCDI1> DouglasK: yea i get what you mean i suppose thats going to be my route as well
[19:38] <stronze> legend244 -
[19:38] <stronze> *         1    /usr/bin/firefox-3.0
[19:38] <stronze>  +        2    /usr/bin/opera
[19:38] <legend2440> stronze: i'm not familiar with konversation. maybe there is an option in konversation itself to set default browser to use. not sure though
[19:38] <DouglasK> It really sucks, because in windows the card is just fine.
[19:38] <djisamsoe> cparzewski: use ndiswrapper, download 64-bit windows driver for your card. AR242x
[19:39] <cparzewski> thanks djisamsoe im in the quest for the drivers
[19:39] <stronze> legend2440 its always opened up into firefox untill i installed opera
[19:39] <djisamsoe> cparzewski: ok, good luck :)
[19:39] <Guest7649> t
[19:39] <mechtech> how to kill processes by PID?
[19:39] <grawity> mechtech: kill pid
[19:39] <legend2440> stronze: i dont use opera. maybe some setting in opera is doing it
[19:39] <grawity> mechtech: If that doesn't affect the process, kill -9 pid
[19:40] <pratik_narain> i can't get 3d to work on my dell inspiron laptop.
[19:40] <mechtech> grawity: it tells me no such process exists, but it's in the list 4 times
[19:40] <MattCampbell> Is there a correct way to make /bin/sh point to bash instead of dash?
[19:40] <mechtech> grawity: it's called pdflush
[19:40] <stronze> legend2440 -i tried to remove opera but i cant find it in app manger.whats the command to do it in terminal?
[19:40] <djisamsoe> mechtech: mech, insert the pid number
[19:40] <grawity> mechtech: AFAIK, It isn't a real process, it's a part of the kernel.
[19:41] <legend2440> stronze: did you install opera from a  deb file?
[19:41] <stronze> i dont remember anymore but i might have done it from terminal
[19:42] <sol93> My login screen suddenly shows extremely big text, how can I reset/reinstall this program?
[19:42] <mechtech> kill -9 transmission
[19:42] <mechtech> bash: kill: transmission: arguments must be process or job IDs
[19:42] <mechtech> oh...nevermind
[19:42] <legend2440> stronze: not sure then. maybe open synaptic and see if opera is ther
[19:42] <grawity> mechtech: kill only takes pids; to kill by process name use pkill.
[19:42] <djisamsoe> mechtech: the sudo? :)
[19:42] <whammo> hey guys is there a video plugin for audacious?
[19:43] <stronze> legend2440 - i check again.maybe i missed it
[19:43] <mechtech> pkill did it
[19:44] <mechtech> kill PID, and kill -9 PID were returning output that said no such process
[19:44] <lightningseed> if your on a system that doesn't have the luxury of pkill...you can do ps aux | grep <process name> and find the pid
[19:45] <djisamsoe> mechtech: what the ps aux gives? is the process still there?
[19:45] <stronze> legend2440 - ah found it and removed
[19:45] <stronze> k
[19:45] <stronze> There is only 1 program which provides x-www-browser
[19:45] <stronze> (/usr/bin/firefox-3.0). Nothing to configure.
[19:45] <FloodBot2> stronze: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:46] <legend2440> stronze: well i would think it has to use firefox now
[19:46] <lightningseed> under ps aux the first number next to username is process ID
[19:46] <lightningseed> or PID
[19:46] <Guest35473> I have just got done with instaling flash plung in from the synaptic package manager.but it is still not working right way.i am on youtube.com and the videos or not playing .it is saying that java need to be insatll
[19:46] <mechtech> thanks guys
[19:46] <Guest35473> some one help me out
[19:47] <Besogon> Guest21901, let install java )
[19:47] <djisamsoe> mechtech: np man, children of 70's helps each other :D :D
[19:47] <jon> so what do i do now
[19:47] <jrib> grawity: have you restarted your browser?
[19:47] <jrib> jon: have you restarted your browser?
[19:47] <Guest53030> yes i have
[19:47] <jrib> ...
[19:48] <makkkkku> hello!
[19:48] <jrib> Guest53030: do you use NoScript?
[19:48] <stronze> legend2440 - yeah lol.thanks for the help
[19:48] <Guest53030> i dont know
[19:48] <mechtech> djisamsoe: LOL...maybe you could tell me why I have the fillowing process with no bluetooth capability on this system which is also a sony computer: 3560 ?        00:00:00 bluetooth-apple
[19:48] <jrib> Guest53030: what version does this page say you have: http://www.adobe.com/products/flash/about/
[19:48] <jrib> Guest53030jondav: stop changing your name please
[19:49] <xiphos> for Jaunty, is the correct mplayer codec path /usr/lib/win32?
[19:49] <Guest53030jondav> I just install flashplungin-nonfree
[19:50] <jrib> Guest53030: what version does this page say you have: http://www.adobe.com/products/flash/about/
[19:50] <Guest53030jondav> youtube is telling me that i dont have java
[19:50] <Guest53030jondav> but i live in the usa
[19:50] <jrib> Guest53030jondav: no it doesn't.  It says javascript.  Did you see my question?
[19:51] <djisamsoe> mechtech: i think it's the bluetooth kernel module, seems like it's there by default. may be putting it in the blacklist will deny the module loaded at startup.... it's just my guess..
[19:51] <mechtech> djisamsoe: yeah: well root was also running bluetoothd...had to sudo kill that
[19:52] <Guest53030jondav> i have try'd to install the .dev for ubuntu linux
[19:52] <Guest53030jondav> but it will not work
[19:52] <grawity> mechtech: Um, it would be better to _remove_ bluetoothd ("bluez") than to kill it every time.
[19:52] <mechtech> grawity: from synaptic?
[19:52] <djisamsoe> mechtech: or may be it's that's from the session menu. try to disable it, logout, login
[19:52] <jrib> Guest53030jondav: if you want me to help you, you need to answer my question
[19:53] <grawity> mechtech: Yes.
[19:53] <mechtech> grawity: doing
[19:53] <grawity> mechtech: Search for "bluetooth" or "bluez" in the 'Installed' section.
[19:54] <Besogon> Guest53030jondav, Install Fkash player from Aobe.com (It works for me.)
[19:54] <mechtech> grawity: why would these packages be installed if I have no bluetooth module?
[19:54] <mechtech> hardware
[19:54] <mechtech> ?
[19:55] <grawity> mechtech: I don't know. "Just in case" maybe?
[19:55] <mechtech> ok...removing
[19:55] <djisamsoe> mechtech: i think it's a default packet of ubuntu installation
[19:55] <grawity> My laptop doesn't have bluetooth either. (I do use an external Bluetooth thingy very often)
[19:55] <mechtech> thanks guys
[19:56] <rincon1> how do i install a mplayer plugin for firefox
[19:56] <mechtech> not only does my laptop not have bluetooth...I have no bluetooth devices
[19:56] <jrib> rincon1: apt-cache search -n mozilla mplayer
[19:56] <jrib> rincon1: (and then install the package)
[19:56] <Besogon> !backup
[19:56] <pH> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7716858 ?
[19:56] <djisamsoe> mechtech: :D
[19:58] <pH> pô, ninguém quer me ajudar, :( --- Alguém fala português?
[19:58] <Guest53030jondav> jrib ...now can you help me
[19:58] <jrib> Guest53030jondav: at the bottom right of your firefox window do you see any icons?  One that looks like a circle with a line through which usually denotes "prohibited"?
[19:58] <guntbert> !pt | ph
[19:58] <hostel> w dupie mam ten program
[19:59] <Bjornlaf> hi i just tried installing ubuntu 9.04 server in place of my old edgy file server install (formatted the os drive, kept the data partitions) and i am getting a grub error 15. Due to my using a SATA addon card my First IDE drive is SDC and this is the drive i need to boot off of.  Everything looks correct in the menu.lst file.. any suggestions on what to try next?
[19:59] <GodfatherofEire> !GRUB
[19:59] <hostel> ass
[19:59] <Guest53030jondav> jrib.not that i know of
[19:59] <rincon1> where can i get MMSH protocol plugin for mozilla
[19:59] <jrib> Guest53030jondav: go to Tools -> Add-ons -> Extensions.  Is NoScript listed there or anything similar?
[20:01] <Guest53030jondav> it does not say anythinf.....jrib
[20:01] <Guest53030jondav> anything
[20:01] <jrib> Guest53030jondav: ok.  Go to Tools -> Clear Private data.  Make sure your cache gets cleared.  Then reload youtube
[20:03] <Guest53030jondav> jrib.....I have undid it but it will come back
[20:03] <jrib> Guest53030jondav: what?
[20:03] <Xodiac13> can someone help me install cedega cvs so i dont screw it up
[20:03] <Guest53030jondav> jrib........i have did what you toulkd me to do .but it is still not working
[20:04] <jrib> Guest53030jondav: do you have javascript disabled in your preferences then?
[20:04] <Flannel> Bjornlaf: With more recent versions, sometimes mappings are wonky.  IDE and SATA are both sd* and depending on your situation IDE might be before, or after SATA.  I'd play around with the root entries in your menu.lst (assuming we've gotten to the menu.lst?)  If you don't see a menu.lst, then you've got a similar problem, albeit earlier, where stage1 isn't finding your boot stuff (isn't finding stage 2)
[20:04] <Xodiac13> Flannel: could you please help me install cedega cvs so i dont screw it u
[20:04] <Guest53030jondav> jrib .......I dont know how to get it back
[20:04] <Guest53030jondav> i think so
[20:05] <jrib> Guest53030jondav: in your Preferences -> Content -> Enable JavaScript
[20:05] <Flannel> Xodiac13: I'd recommend just using wine.
[20:06] <Guest53030jondav> \jrib it will not let me to do it
[20:06] <Xodiac13> Flannel: i was looking on a forum and people said they get better performance out of cedega
[20:06] <jrib> Guest53030jondav: why not, what does it say?
[20:06] <Flannel> Xodiac13: I've never dealt with cedega, know nothing of it.  I imagine there's documentation on the internet though, better than I'd be able to give.
[20:06] <Guest53030jondav> jrib it just will not let me do anything ...man
[20:07] <Xodiac13> Flannel: o okay i am a gamer using ubuntu 8.10 and so far love it i just want to make sure i can get most out of my games
[20:08] <Bjornlaf> will installing grub to (hd0) hurt that drive since it's one of my data drives?
[20:08] <Guest53030jondav> jrib.... i have try'd to do what you have tould me to do but it will not work
[20:08] <jrib> Guest53030jondav: in a terminal, run: find ~/.mozilla ! -user $USER
[20:08] <mechtech> Listening to Public Enemy...Chuck D!
[20:08] <pratik_narain> i can't get 3d to work on my dell inspiron laptop.
[20:08] <grawity> jrib: You need to escape the !
[20:08] <pratik_narain> any help plz
[20:09] <mechtech> pratik_narain: what video card?
[20:09] <jrib> grawity: thanks (zsh doesn't care)
[20:09] <jrib> Guest53030jondav: in a terminal, run: find ~/.mozilla \! -user $USER
[20:09] <grawity> jrib: but bash does.
[20:09] <Besogon> jrib, you are very patient
[20:10] <Bjornlaf> Flannel: i have a menu.lst, the uuid's and entries look correct. I've tried manually setting grub again to hd2,1 which is the partition i installed the os to
[20:10] <Guest53030jondav> jrib it is not working
[20:11] <Guest53030jondav> and yes i did do but not working
[20:11] <|F5|> #ubuntu-sv
[20:11] <jrib> Guest53030jondav: did it just give you a new prompt or did it give you an error?
[20:11] <Guest53030jondav> error
[20:11] <jrib> Guest53030jondav: do you want to share it?
[20:11] <mechtech> |F5|: /join #ubuntu-sv
[20:11] <Bjornlaf> Flannel: my primary hdd is /dev/sdc and it's partitioned into /dev/sdc1 <2gb swap> and /dev/sdc2 <118gb />
[20:11] <Guest53030jondav> i just louce it
[20:12] <jrib> Guest53030jondav: ?
[20:12] <zargonovski> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype
[20:12] <Guest53030jondav> i cant i dont klnow how
[20:12] <Juan_a_Day> Hello, Could someone help me to install a multifunctional Epson TX300F ?
[20:12] <jrib> Guest53030jondav: highlight it, right click, copy, come back to this channel, right click, paste
[20:13] <spO> when trying to configure a new kernel, i do a make menuconfig  and it shows version 2.6.28.10 at the top instead of 2.6.28.15 ...
[20:14] <pratik_narain> mechtech: its ati mobility radeon 4330
[20:14] <Guest53030jondav> jon@jon-desktop:~$ find /.mozilla! -user
[20:14] <Guest53030jondav> find: missing argument to `-user'
[20:14] <Guest53030jondav> jon@jon-desktop:~$
[20:14] <Guest53030jondav>  here it is jrib
[20:14] <FloodBot2> Guest53030jondav: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:14] <ubuntu_> i can't install pidgin in ubuntu
[20:15] <jrib> Guest53030jondav: you made several typos.  Instead of typing it out just copy and paste into terminal
[20:15] <jrib> Guest53030jondav: in a terminal, run: find ~/.mozilla \! -user $USER
[20:15] <mechtech> pratik_narain: many linux users are having issues getting ATI chipsets to work correctly
[20:15] <pH> guys
[20:15] <pH> why this don't work? -> echo HEY > stty -f /dev/cu.PL2303-0000101D 115200 -parity -cstopb ???
[20:15] <pratik_narain> mechtech: why is it so
[20:15] <ubuntu_> how to chat in irc
[20:15] <Besogon> spO, You have got  2.6.28.10 sourse
[20:15] <Guest53030jondav> jrib.......i dont know how to do all of what you what me to ok
[20:15] <ubuntu_> help any body
[20:15] <jrib> pH: did it not work or just not do what you wanted?
[20:16] <mechtech> pratik_narain: because ATI refuses to develop drivers for linux
[20:16] <pH> jrlb: not worked...
[20:16] <tuxguy> Are there any pxe boot images for ubuntu?
[20:16] <pH> nothing happens, actually
[20:16] <Juan_a_Day> Hello, Could someone help me to install a multifunctional Epson TX300F ?
[20:16] <pH> the main problem is here, jrlb: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7716858
[20:16] <jrib> pH: try « ls »
[20:16] <pH> jrlb: where?
[20:16] <Guest53030jondav> it took me 3 mouth's to find some real help on what i need
[20:17] <jrib> pH: wherever you ran that command.  You are writing HEY to the file stty
[20:17] <pratik_narain> mechtech: but i have installed fglrx graphics driver from the official ati website
[20:17] <rincon1> please what is the syntax to update system
[20:17] <Guest53030jondav> now it will take me longer
[20:17] <pratik_narain> mechtech: it gives me compiz ok but 3d games are a no-go
[20:17] <jrib> !apt > rincon1
[20:17] <mechtech> pratik_narain: know to not work correctly
[20:17] <mechtech> known
[20:17] <pH> jrlb: « ls » this is not valid..
[20:18] <jrib> pH: I'm guessing you want a pipe (|), not a redirection (>)
[20:18] <pH> yeah, a pipe
[20:18] <jrib> pH: I enclose commands in « »
[20:18] <pratik_narain> mechtech: i like assault cube very much but it gives me flickers.
[20:18] <pH> jrlb: Oh, :)
[20:18] <pH> jrlb: How can i PIPE it? :P
[20:18] <pratik_narain> mechtech:  isn't there any work around
[20:18] <jrib> Guest53030jondav: did you run that command yet?
[20:18] <deany> pratik_narain,  same here, compiz is fine, games arent acceptable, for me, using OSS driver
[20:18] <tuxguy> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/    is not found... is there an alternative
[20:18] <jrib> pH: |
[20:18] <mechtech> pratik_narain: you might be better off using a previos radeon driver
[20:18] <pH> ok
[20:18] <pH> I did it
[20:18] <pH> and it didn't work jrlb
[20:18] <Guest53030jondav> jrib i tould you i cant
[20:18] <pH> echo HEY | stty -f /dev/cu.PL2303-0000101D 115200 -parity -cstopb
[20:19] <jrib> pH: ok well I don't know anything about stty
[20:19] <jrib> Guest53030jondav: why?
[20:19] <pratik_narain> mechtech: how can i get one
[20:19] <maynards-girl> how do I change the default editor when using crontab -e?
[20:19] <pratik_narain> mechtech: and plz state the version
[20:19] <deany> pratik_narain, are you using ATI fglrx or the open radeon driver?
[20:19] <Besogon> Guest53030jondav, jrib told you to delete .mozilla foulder. Just rm -r ~/.mozilla And install flash player from Adobe.com
[20:19] <grawity> maynards-girl: It's $EDITOR. Run this: export EDITOR=nano
[20:19] <mechtech> pratik_narain: lemme do a little research...brb
[20:19] <grawity> maynards-girl: Or if you want, export EDITOR=gedit, even.
[20:19] <pH> jrlb: ideas? :P
[20:20] <pratik_narain> deany: ATI fglrx
[20:20] <grawity> maynards-girl: To make it permanent, add the "export EDITOR=..." line to ~/.bashrc
[20:20] <pratik_narain> mechtech: yeah fine
[20:20] <pratik_narain> mechtech: i wait
[20:20] <dbm> Hello
[20:20] <Guest53030jondav> i dont know how to do all of this
[20:20] <deany> pratik_narain, lucky you
[20:20] <jrib> Guest53030jondav: well you just need to copy the command I told you to run, paste it in a terminal, and hit enter.  If you can't do that, then I'm not sure what to tell you
[20:20] <maynards-girl> grawity huh? What do I do? I was following for a bit, but now confused. I want vim as default
[20:20] <deany> pratik_narain, mine isnt supported any more
[20:21] <jrib> Guest53030jondav: in a terminal, run: find ~/.mozilla \! -user $USER
[20:21] <grawity> maynards-girl: export EDITOR=vim
[20:21] <jrib> Guest53030jondav: copy everything after the :   and paste it in your terminal
[20:21] <dbm> Ok guys got few questions, i think that is probably easy one but w/e... ok i want to make 60HZ to 75Hz...
[20:21] <Guest53030jondav> i tryd to copy it
[20:21] <maynards-girl> grawity, will that make it permanent?
[20:21] <dbm> :D
[20:21] <Guest53030jondav> buit it is not working
[20:21] <grawity> maynards-girl: No - like I said, you need to add that line to ~/.bashrc
[20:21] <jrib> Guest53030jondav: stop saying "not working".  Say what *does* happen
[20:21] <maynards-girl> OH
[20:21] <pratik_narain> i have a new card
[20:21] <maynards-girl> i think i got it
[20:22] <maynards-girl> h/o let me try it
[20:22] <Guest53030jondav> so what is happing
[20:22] <grawity> maynards-girl: Oh, and just to make it safe, add another line after that:  export VISUAL="$EDITOR"
[20:22] <jrib> pH: i don't understand what you are trying to accomplish
[20:22] <jrib> Guest53030jondav: you need to tell me.  What happened when you ran the command?
[20:22] <pratik_narain> deany: why don't you try a previous version like mechtech suggests
[20:22] <pH> jrlb: THIS: http://www.nerdkits.com/forum/thread/170/
[20:22] <testi> How can I print a collection of photos, 9 pictures per page, f-spot fails (needs infinite time)
[20:22] <Guest53030jondav> \i tould it it gave me a err
[20:23] <testi> I have 200 photos, so please don't give any manual solutions
[20:23] <deany> pratik_narain, cant use fglrx at all, the earlier versions arent for this xorg
[20:23] <Bjornlaf> Flannel: any more suggestions? i've even tried doing root (hd2,1) and setup (hd0) and that still gets me the error 15 after it says Grub Loading Stage 1.5.
[20:23] <jrib> pH: so did you try what they say to do there?  They just redirect directly to the device
[20:23] <deany> pratik_narain, ive been down this road, I know
[20:23] <pratik_narain> deany: oh thats sad
[20:24] <dbm> Ok guys got few questions, i think that is probably easy one but w/e... ok i want to make 60HZ to 75Hz...
[20:24] <testi> Oh wait, i i just figured out that f-spot doesnt need forever, but instrad about 200 hours
[20:24] <deany> I`d have to go back to 8.10 to use fglrx.. I dont play games enough for that
[20:24] <grawity> dbm: just wondering, is it a LCD?
[20:24] <maynards-girl> grawity, i tried it but some other blasted editor appears
[20:24] <Besogon> Guest53030jondav, rm -r ~/.mozilla then run Firefox. then download http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/?promoid=BUIGP that you need than run flashplayer installer. then run Firefox again It is all
[20:24] <Guest53030jondav> jrib i have been try to do all what you have tould me to do but this shit is not help me much
[20:24] <pH> jrlb: iMac:Code fastshop$ echo pH | /dev/cu.PL2303-0000101D
[20:24] <pH> -bash: /dev/cu.PL2303-0000101D: Permission denied
[20:24] <pH> iMac:Code fastshop$
[20:25] <grawity> maynards-girl: what does this command output? echo "$EDITOR" "$VISUAL"
[20:25] <jrib> Guest53030jondav: do you want me to help you?
[20:25] <tonii> Are there any free lightweight CAD for Linux?
[20:25] <dbm> grawity: yes its LCD
[20:25] <maynards-girl> grawity, I added: export EDITOR=vim // export VISUAL="$EDITOR"
[20:25] <jrib> pH: now use the > ...
[20:25] <Guest53030jondav> jrib i  have said yes to helping me
[20:25] <maynards-girl> grawity: vim vim
[20:25] <grawity> maynards-girl: Additions to .bashrc only take effect after it's reloaded
[20:25] <pH> I don't need to write it to some file, jrlb
[20:26] <jrib> pH: you do
[20:26] <dbm> grawity: U know what is problem right?:D
[20:26] <grawity> maynards-girl: But $EDITOR seems correct, if echo "$EDITOR" says 'vim'...
[20:26] <maynards-girl> grawity, i logged out of ssh and then reconnected already
[20:26] <beefheart> Hello. Today I updated the kernel in 9.04, and after it was done I suddenly lost opengl and d3d support. after many tries changing drivers I am still no closer. my glxinfo: Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[20:26] <beefheart> Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual or fbconfig: Xlib
[20:26] <grawity> maynards-girl: Strange.
[20:26] <jrib> Guest53030jondav: ok.  For me to do that, you need to copy the command I gave you (right click -> copy).  Paste it into a terminal (right click -> paste).  Then copy the output and paste it here. Can you do that?
[20:27] <Guest53030jondav> jrib i went to the website that you need to me go but everything is not downlounding
[20:27] <theFunzo> http://pastebin.com/d5e49454b I can't start rtorrent anymore :S what is wrong and how do i fix it?
[20:27] <pH> jrlb: $ echo pH | /dev/cu.PL2303-0000101D > ...
[20:27] <pH> -bash: /dev/cu.PL2303-0000101D: Permission denied
[20:27] <DouglasK> beefheart, video card?
[20:27] <beefheart> DouglasK, geforce 8800gtx
[20:27] <jrib> Guest53030jondav: I did not tell you to go to any website.  I asked you to run a command.  Quite frankly you are making it very difficult to help you and I am about to give up
[20:27] <beefheart> dougl, worked like a charm until i updated
[20:27] <Guest53030jondav> i did right click and tryd to copy but it is not doing it
[20:27] <maynards-girl> grawity, that nano is the editor for crontab...
[20:27] <jrib> pH: no.  Replace the | with a >
[20:27] <pH> ok
[20:27] <DouglasK> did you install the driver via the "restricted drivers" tool, or by some other means?
[20:28] <pH> jrlb: I get many || || || || || || on the device screen
[20:28] <pH> on the LCD, actually
[20:28] <dbm> grawity: that is impossible right?;\
[20:28] <pH> i need to set the baud rate..
[20:28] <grawity> maynards-girl: I just tried, and crontab always uses $EDITOR.
[20:28] <beefheart> I have tried, but i went back to the one u find in the repos
[20:28] <jrib> pH: run « tty » where you want to redirect
[20:28] <grawity> dbm: Generally, LCDs don't care about refresh rate. They display exactly the same.
[20:28] <jrib> pH: what is the output?
[20:29] <pH> it's /dev/cu.PL2303-0000101D, a NerdKits MCU
[20:29] <beefheart> DouglasK, it did not make any difference.
[20:29] <Guest53030jondav> jrib it is still not working
[20:29] <maynards-girl> grawity, do i need to restart the machine?
[20:29] <dbm> grawity: ah, ok then.
[20:29] <DouglasK> beefheart, there's a kernel module for nvidia ... make sure you pull that out, purge the nvidia package, then reinstall.
[20:29] <Guest53030jondav> i did try to copy
[20:29] <mechtech> pratik_narain: can you open Xorg.0.config and paste the output to pastebin?
[20:29] <Guest53030jondav> but it will not work right
[20:29] <grawity> maynards-girl: That really shouldn't be needed...
[20:29] <unop> maynards-girl, is the VISUAL variable set?
[20:29] <pH> jrlb: if I use screen /dev/cu.PL2303-0000101D 115200 and type my msg, it works great
[20:29] <beefheart> DouglasK, where can I read something about purging ? im not sure what that is
[20:29] <pH> but with echo HEY > /dev/cu.PL* it dont work
[20:29] <pH> :(
[20:29] <grawity> unop: see above -- export EDITOR=vim; export VISUAL="$EDITOR"
[20:29] <jrib> Guest53030jondav: try running « firefox -ProfileManager » and creating a new profile.  Good luck with your issue.
[20:30] <guntbert> maynards-girl: try select-editor
[20:30] <unop> grawity, and that doesn't necessarily indicate that it is set is what i mean.
[20:30] <tyler_wylie> Hey, can anyone pastebin their /boot/grub/menu.1st for me?  Thanks
[20:30] <jrib> pH: what version of ubuntu?
[20:30] <maynards-girl> grawity unop this is what I added at the beginning of the .bashrc:   export EDITOR=vim \\ export VISUAL="$EDITOR"
[20:30] <grawity> unop: Well, it _should_ be set after a re-login. And echo $EDITOR $VISUAL returns 'vim vim'
[20:30] <maynards-girl> the \\ is a new line
[20:30] <DouglasK> beefheart, in Aptitude, just select to Mark for Complete Removal
[20:30] <pH> jrlb: it's a mac actually
[20:31] <pH> but in ubuntu, the problem is the same
[20:31] <spO> i did  a git clone git://kernel.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-jaunty.git   , isn't that supposed to give me the latest version of ubuntu ?  but i did a make menuconfig and it reports 2.6.28-10 instead of 2.6.28-15 at the top  .... even after i did a git checkout Ubuntu-2.8.28-15 and git fetch.... it still lists the older version at the top
[20:31] <grawity> maynards-girl: Adding it to the end would have been better ... but I don't think that should matter in this case. Still, try moving to the end, then reconnecting.
[20:31] <jrib> pH: works here for me on ubuntu, try the mac support channel
[20:31] <beefheart> DouglasK, that is done. I removed all nvidia packages
[20:31] <pratik_narain> mechtech: there is no file of that name. atleast not in search application
[20:31] <DouglasK> Ok....  dunno offhand then.
[20:31] <pH> jrlb: what channel?
[20:31] <grawity> maynards-girl: Or just manually try (export EDITOR=vim; export VISUAL=$EDITOR; crontab -e)
[20:32] <jrib> pH: ##osx maybe, I don't remember
[20:32] <tyler_wylie> Anyone? I need a quick gaze at Ubuntu's grub conf to fix my menu hehe
[20:32] <beefheart> DouglasK, Is there a possibility that the problem is in the xorg.conf ? or would the grep tell me something different then ?
[20:32] <mechtech> pratik_narain: sorry Xorg.0.log
[20:32] <Bjornlaf> can anyone help me out with my grub error? i've read and tried everything at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[20:32] <jrib> pH: ##macosx something like that
[20:32] <maynards-girl> ok. let me try
[20:32] <DouglasK> beefheart, could be ... make sure the driver is nvidia, not nv.
[20:33] <CharlesStandly> hey how do i permantly mount an internal /dev/sdb1 on jaunty?
[20:33] <grawity> CharlesStandly: Add it to /etc/fstab. What filesystem does it use?
[20:33] <beefheart> DouglasK, that as well didnt make any difference. I can run on both drivers, but i dont get any opengl or d3d in any of them
[20:33] <CharlesStandly> fat
[20:33] <grawity> CharlesStandly: FAT32, I assume?
[20:33] <littlearchie> ubuntu keeps going to maximum brightness on my moniker... anyway to fix this?
[20:34] <goten87> hi all
[20:34] <pratik_narain> mechtech: there is no file of such name
[20:34] <DouglasK> beefheart, well, I'm really not sure what to say then ...
[20:34] <CharlesStandly> grawity:yes how do i add it to there? absolute beginner
[20:34] <grawity> CharlesStandly: /dev/sdb1 /mountpoint vfat auto,fmask=0111,dmask=0000,uid=1000,showexec 0 0
[20:34] <mechtech> pratik_narain: hrmmm
[20:34] <mechtech> brb
[20:34] <theFunzo> http://pastebin.com/d5e49454b I can't start rtorrent anymore :S the pastebin shows how it is, can someone help me fix it please?
[20:34] <grawity> CharlesStandly: Replace /mountpoint with the path you want.
[20:34] <goten87> can someone help me i'm new in ubuntu :(
[20:35] <bruenig> !anyone | goten87
[20:35] <grawity> goten87: What is your problem?
[20:35] <beefheart> DouglasK, hehe. thats where i am at atm. This problem was soved at last update for me, but now it was not the same. you got a link to a xorg.conf with opengl and d3d enabled ?
[20:35] <maynards-girl> grawity unop I added that to the bottom of my .bashrc, saved it, logged outta ssh, logged back in and still pulling up nano
[20:35] <pratik_narain> mechtech: then what
[20:35] <grawity> e
[20:35] <pratik_narain> mechtech: am i missing something
[20:35] <grawity> um.
[20:35] <DouglasK> beefheart, sure, I'll put mine up on pastebin
[20:35] <ribot> hi, i have today tried tons of ways to make a usb stick bootable, without any success at all
[20:35] <goten87> well i need the code to ask for my pc IP
[20:35] <bruenig> !usb | ribot
[20:35] <maynards-girl> grawity unop if I type manually what you said then it works
[20:35] <A> I've tried to make thos so many times
[20:36] <A> and hasn't worked either
[20:36] <jrib> goten87: ifconfig
[20:36] <beefheart> DouglasK, thank you.
[20:36] <unop> maynards-girl,  what does.   type -a crontab   give you?
[20:36] <goten87> TY
[20:36] <mechtech> pratik_narain: run this command string
[20:36] <mechtech> pratik_narain: lspci -nn | grep VGA
[20:36] <bruenig> jrib: ifconfig only gives local ip, so
[20:36] <grawity> maynards-girl: ...do you use bash? (Should've asked that before.)
[20:36] <maynards-girl> unop "-a crontab" ???
[20:36] <jrib> bruenig: he didn't specify so
[20:36] <DouglasK> beefheart, http://pastebin.com/m44d4ecac
[20:36] <grawity> maynards-girl: He meant 'type -a crontab'
[20:36] <mechtech> pratik_narain: make sure it lists your video card correctly
[20:36] <maynards-girl> what's bash?
[20:36] <bruenig> jrib: indeed
[20:37] <bruenig> maynards-girl: bourne again shell
[20:37] <DouglasK> beefheart, It will stay there for a month in case you need to go back to it.
[20:37] <CharlesStandly> grawity:thanks
[20:37] <Laimiigais> hello peoples
[20:37] <beefheart> DouglasK, thank you.
[20:37] <A> How come when I tried to update firefox to 3.5, nothing happened to firefox but instead I got a web browser called Minefield 3.5 that's exactly like firefox 3.5...
[20:37] <grawity> maynards-girl: bash is the shell you use; if you don't know, you don't need to worry about it.
[20:37] <jrib> goten87: if you want the ip your router has in relation to the outside world: wget -q -O - http://www.whatismyip.org
[20:37] <DouglasK> beefheart, you're welcome.  I hope it works out for you!
[20:37] <grawity> !ff35 | A
[20:37] <jrib> !cookie | bruenig
[20:37] <bruenig> jrib: whatismyip has a script url it wants people to use
[20:37] <bruenig> oh hmm
[20:38] <grawity> maynards-girl: Try reconnecting again - and immediately after that, env | grep ^EDITOR
[20:38] <bruenig> neverthemind
[20:38] <maynards-girl> grawity ubon "crontab is /usr/bin/crontab"
[20:38] <bruenig> they changed it
[20:38] <pratik_narain> mechtech: it seems to do so. it lists it as "01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc M92 LP [Mobility Radeon HD 4300 Series] [1002:9552]"
[20:38] <pratik_narain> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc M92 LP [Mobility Radeon HD 4300 Series] [1002:9552]: is it ok
[20:38] <unop> grawity, the manpage indicate VISUAL is checked first, so maybe that's worth checking too.
[20:38] <beefheart> DouglasK, I am sure it will, but your config is identical to one of my disfunctional ones... hmm What is the criteria for this opengl to start ? i cant see any reason why it would not, when its one the ubuntu signed drivers, the very same that worked for me for so long.-
[20:38] <mechtech> pratik_narain: excellent...brb
[20:38] <goten87> can someone whipser me or somthing :O need more help :$
[20:39] <grawity> unop: EDITOR and VISUAL are exported from the same place anyway.
[20:39] <grawity> unop: If they're exported _at all_, that is...
[20:39] <bruenig> !pm | goten87
[20:39] <jrib> goten87: just ask the channel your question
[20:39] <maynards-girl> grawity and unop: "env | grep ^EDITOR" = "EDITOR=vim"
[20:39] <Laimiigais> hello. Plz help me. I have a interesant problem. My ubuntu don`t see ntfs particion.
[20:40] <grawity> maynards-girl: And the same with VISUAL?
[20:40] <goten87> i need to chance a map so i can do things in it its the map www
[20:40] <bruenig> !ntfs | Laimiigais
[20:40] <bruenig> !english | Laimiigais
[20:40] <ribot> bruenig: thank you i will go trhough those steps
[20:40] <maynards-girl> grawity unop, when I type "sudo crontab -e" it still uses nano
[20:40] <unop> grawity,  well, that's
[20:40] <unop> oops
[20:40] <grawity> maynards-girl: ... you didn't mention you use sudo.
[20:40] <DouglasK> beefheart, I honestly don't know why the issue.  I have a different video card, so I can't rule out that your card is not properly supported.
[20:40] <unop> maynards-girl, heh
[20:40] <mechtech> pratik_narain: ok...now run: sudo apt-get remove --purge xorg-driver-fglrx
[20:40] <Laimiigais> tnx
[20:41] <mechtech> pratik_narain: then reboot...I'll be here
[20:41] <grawity> maynards-girl: sudo cleans up environment before starting crontab (unless you use something like sudo -E crontab -e)
[20:41] <maynards-girl> grawity unop: "env | grep ^VISUAL" = "VISUAL=vim"
[20:42] <maynards-girl> grawity, huh? I don't get that
[20:42] <unop> maynards-girl,  sudo -E crontab
[20:42] <kelli> how are you?
[20:42] <unop> !hi
[20:42] <grawity> maynards-girl: The 'sudo' command removes all unneccessary environment variables, including $EDITOR and $VISUAL.
[20:43] <Bjornlaf> so no one can help me with my grub problem?
[20:43] <maynards-girl> grawity unop: when i type "sudo -E crontab" it just lists options (i think)
[20:43] <grawity> maynards-girl: sudo -E crontab -e
[20:43] <dougl> Bjornlaf, ?
[20:43] <goten87> is there a site with all commands for ubuntu :O need the code for making map rights 777
[20:43] <maynards-girl> grawity, that worked!
[20:44] <guntbert> maynards-girl: because with sudo you act as a different user, the settings from your own account don't work
[20:44] <maynards-girl> how do i change for the default editor for sudo then?
[20:45] <guntbert> maynards-girl: type sudo select-editor
[20:46] <maynards-girl> gunbert, do i select vim.tiny, vim.basic or vim.gnome?
[20:46] <guntbert> maynards-girl: then select the editor you like, after that you should be ok for the future
[20:46] <Bjornlaf> dougl, i just recently did a reinstall of ubuntu server 9.04 on my file server, i formatted the root partition and kept the data partitions (not /home).. after rebooting i am getting a grub error 15. i have checked the menu.lst file and all looks correct in there and i've tried manually setting up grub. Due to my PCI SATA Controller being seen first by linux my root partition is /dev/sdc2. This worked previously with ubuntu server edgy
[20:46] <blognewb> HELLO? There's no nano in the ubuntu 9 install? is that correct?
[20:46] <grawity> maynards-girl: Does it accept just 'vim'?
[20:46] <guntbert> maynards-girl: try it out :-)
[20:47] <grawity> blognewb: There is, /usr/bin/nano.
[20:47] <geirha> maynards-girl: vim.basic is the "normal" vim. Which you probably want
[20:47] <mechtech> blognewb: try pico
[20:47] <blognewb> grawity: i'm trying to do this.. nano /home/paulm/.ssh/authorized_keys
[20:47] <Bjornlaf> i've tried putting grub in (hd0) and (hd2,1)
[20:47] <blognewb> is that right?
[20:47] <grawity> blognewb: Yes.
[20:47] <blognewb> grawity: i get -bash nano not found
[20:47] <maynards-girl> grawity unop gunbert geirha THANK YOU! it's working how I want it to now :)
[20:48] <blognewb> :( what is that?
[20:48] <maynards-girl> i used vim.basic
[20:48] <JohnCDI1> anyone have any experience with ushare?
[20:48] <blognewb> mechtech: how is it? sorry
[20:48] <leonardo> hi all
[20:48] <guntbert> maynards-girl: nice :-)
[20:48] <mechtech> blognewb: pico...another command-line text editor...run it from bash all the time
[20:48] <blognewb> sudo apt-get install nano ?
[20:49] <grawity> blognewb: No /usr/bin/nano?
[20:49] <blognewb> grawity: says command not found
[20:49] <grawity> blognewb: sudo apt-get install nano, then...
[20:49] <blognewb> "sudo" is used if you are not root, right grawity ?
[20:49] <JohnCDI1> well if anyone has any experience with ushare im streaming to 360 and it detects and plays audio but often the time keeps going further but audio cuts out if anyone has any ideas
[20:49] <blognewb> or what is its purpose?
[20:49] <mechtech> blognewb: sudo = Super User Do
[20:49] <theFunzo> http://pastebin.com/d5e49454b I can't start rtorrent anymore :S the pastebin shows how it is, can someone help me fix it please?
[20:50] <geirha> blognewb: Yes, sudo grants you root access for the particular command
[20:50] <grawity> blognewb: Correct
[20:50] <blognewb> oh
[20:50] <blognewb> oh
[20:50] <mechtech> blognewb: for running commands as though you're root
[20:50] <blognewb> thank you. i am a stupid dumb noob if you can't tell yet so sorry
[20:50] <grawity> blognewb: 'sudo' runs the given command with root privileges.
[20:50] <grawity> blognewb: Actually, not just root - sudo can run commands as any user
[20:50] <r3l1c> blognewb:  your doing fine, asking questions is key
[20:50] <blognewb> oh
[20:50] <mechtech> blognewb: everyone is a noob t some point...no sweat
[20:50] <blognewb> yes thanks
[20:52] <rincon> how do i ask to apt-get if gstreamer codedcs are installed on my system
[20:52] <rincon> ?
[20:52] <kelli> what is the best place to find linux disrto????
[20:52] <dotness> google
[20:52] <GArReT> Hi guys its me again
[20:52] <r3l1c> distrowatch.org
[20:53] <GArReT> I've downloaded the new Ubuntu... and now i cant get my eggdrop bots to load on it again
[20:53] <GArReT> so can anyone help me with it
[20:53] <Mango> hi guys, I want a program to play DVB-S. I tried Kaffeine but it freezes a lot :( so I want another program.
[20:53] <GArReT> since it looks like the thing doesnt even have building essentials and TCL
[20:53] <mechtech> !aks | GArReT
[20:53] <mechtech> !ask | GArReT
[20:53] <Mango> Can anybody know guess why Kaffeine freezes a lot?
[20:54] <rincon> kelli: www.ubuntu.com
[20:54] <n_nick> hi when ever i connect to the internet using Ubuntu.. i am unable to see the start time and the end time of the connection.. like in the MyConnection in Windows is there a similar way to findout when i connected to the internet
[20:54] <grawity> GArReT: Did you do 'apt-get update'?
[20:54] <GArReT> grawity... i've tried to install the internet on it!
[20:54] <GArReT> No luck :(
[20:54] <grawity> GArReT: Ah.
[20:55] <pratik_narain> mechtech: can i start a private conversation
[20:55] <Mango> !DVB
[20:55] <grawity> GArReT: Can you download them from packages.ubuntu.com?
[20:55] <grawity> GArReT: Using another computer.
[20:55] <oskar-> n_nick, how do you connect? is it perhaps logged somewhere into a logfile in /var/log/?
[20:55] <GArReT> Yes i can use this computer on the internet
[20:55] <mechtech> pratik_narain: sure :)
[20:56] <n_nick> oskar-: i connect using Network
[20:56] <n_nick> Manager Applet
[20:56] <n_nick> but i dont get the start time of the connection
[20:56] <MrKeuner> hi, if Google's Chrome browser is free code, why isn't it in Ubuntu repositories?
[20:57] <n_nick> MrKeuner: Chrome Opera 10 Firefox.. what difference does it make :)
[20:57] <oskar-> n_nick, a dial-up conection?
[20:57] <Mango> !vtv
[20:57] <n_nick> no a broadband
[20:57] <Mango> !VTV
[20:57] <bishop> joining
[20:57] <aksci> does anyone know a software which can generate php code for my pages so that i can copy paste them into some software? i need it for drupal!
[20:57] <GArReT> grawity, isnt there a command which i can install lib6 or something like that?
[20:57] <guntbert> !askthebot | Mango
[20:58] <n_nick> oskar-: i just want to know the time when i logged on
[20:58] <n_nick> is there a way to find that out
[20:58] <client3424> n_nick, 'last'
[20:59] <n_nick> ?
[20:59] <client3424> n_nick, ah nevermind.
[21:00] <ProfOak> Where is pidgin installed to on ubuntu?
[21:00] <n_nick> suppose i logged onto ubuntu n i get connected to the internet..now how to find wht time i got connected
[21:00] <n_nick> not last time the current time
[21:00] <jpds> ProfOak: /usr/bin/pidgin
[21:00] <ProfOak> jpds: thanks
[21:00] <zargonovski> $home/purple
[21:01] <zargonovski> file are in purple
[21:01] <Andre_Gondim> how may i connect in one vpn with ubuntu jaunty
[21:01] <edbian> ProfOak: programs are not installed to one place like in windows.  Binaries go to /usr/bin, libraries go to /usr/lib user settings /home/user/.<appName>  etc etc
[21:01] <ProfOak> edbian: Is pidgin under .purple?
[21:01] <jpds> zargonovski: That's user configuration stuff.
[21:01] <Xodiac13> i have gotten my desktop up and running 3d working with my video card and all now i need to get my laptop going to what ubuntu version supports my radeon x1200
[21:01] <jpds> ProfOak: No, just it's settings.
[21:02] <edbian> ProfOak: In /home/ProfOak/.purple are the user files for pidgin.
[21:02] <zargonovski> yep
[21:02] <edbian> ProfOak: Do you know how to view files that start with "." ??
[21:02] <zargonovski> he's asking for user files 'ight ?
[21:02] <make> sudo ls -a
[21:02] <zargonovski> he's asking for user files right ?
[21:02] <jpds> make: sudo?
[21:03] <ProfOak> edbian: Yes... I'm not that bad with computers
[21:03] <edbian> ProfOak: lol, ok good:
[21:03] <guntbert> make: sudo is *not* necessary in this case!
[21:03] <fg57lx> I'm having a problem with sound. When ever I listen to any music (on any media player) or watch any video (even youtube) the sound starts to skip and jump around. What would cause this, and how could I fix it?
[21:03] <ProfOak> edbian: Just tell me if it would be possible to use these. http://kill-o-meter.deviantart.com/art/IM-White-Bubble-102160946 if not, then I don't need any help.
[21:05] <make> view files use ls -a
[21:05] <make> display start with "."
[21:06] <jpds> make: You can also do: 'ls -A' to prevent the '.' and '..' from showing.
[21:06] <n_nick> can someone help me to find out how i can verify what time i connected to the internet
[21:07] <make> jpds o. thanks
[21:07] <Lukasz> hmm
[21:07] <edbian> ProfOak: Hang on I'm figuring it on
[21:07] <Guest83977> hello i am new to irc can someone give me a little direction
[21:07] <Lukasz> brb
[21:07] <jpds> !irc | Guest83977
[21:07] <Lukasz_Tarkowski> I am back
[21:07] <oskar-> n_nick, dialup network logins are normally logged in /var/log/syslog by the program, that manages the dial. a physical connect to an ethernet network is not neccessarily logged, but you could search dmesg for "up" messages for certain interfaces. dhclient will also log ip acquiration into syslog
[21:08] <edbian> ProfOak: I can't seem to figure out where pidgin keeps it's icons
[21:08] <sebsebseb> hi
[21:08] <ProfOak> edbian: Now you're in my shoes
[21:09] <Guest83977> Hello
[21:09] <make> iptables raw table use in???
[21:09] <edbian> ProfOak: lol
[21:09] <Lukasz_Tarkowski> well like I said I will install this Saturday :o
[21:09] <MK13> edbian, there not w/ the icon packs?
[21:09] <zigibagido> hello i am new to IRC what do i do
[21:10] <edbian> ProfOak: found it!  ~/.purple/icons  !!!
[21:10] <edbian> MK13: I found them :)
[21:10] <MK13> edbian, nice :D
[21:10] <n_nick> nope not there
[21:10] <edbian> ProfOak: I have NO IDEA if you can simply replace them lol
[21:10] <zigibagido> can someone help me?
[21:10] <ProfOak> edbian: Mine is empty, so I'm not really sure.
[21:11] <phaer> zigibagido: What do you want to do? Just ask our question.
[21:11] <fg57lx> I'm having a problem with sound. When ever I listen to any music (on any media player) or watch any video (even youtube) the sound starts to skip and jump around. What would cause this, and how could I fix it?
[21:11] <guntbert> zigibagido: this the ubuntu support channel, ask you question or  if you just want to talk join #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:11] <Jostein> hey
[21:11] <cparzewski> hy everyone! im trying to get sound (youtube) on hardy 64 with oss
[21:11] <cparzewski> any clues?
[21:11] <edbian> ProfOak: I looked there in nautilus.  those are my friends buddy icons!  They're cached
[21:12] <djisamsoe> edbian: ah..... i found it. look here: /usr/share/pixmaps/pidgin/
[21:12] <ProfOak> edbian: Oh, yeah. Pidgin does that, haha.
[21:12] <edbian> ProfOak: They're in /usr/share/pixmaps/pidgin
[21:13] <edbian> djisamsoe: Thank you!
[21:13] <zigibagido> I have vsftpd installed on Ubuntu desktop 9.04 and it works. I have 7 users and they are locked in their own home folder but i want a public folder. I made public folder they could all access but if one user creates a file or directory another user cant open it. I want to change the permissions of the files in public folder to let all users do what they want.
[21:13] <ProfOak> edbian: Ahh, thanks so much
[21:13] <aueoaouae> Reiser4 is grayed out in gparted. What do I need to do?
[21:13] <wesley> hello, for some reason java virtual machine is listed as not installed even after i installed java 6 runtime
[21:14] <aueoaouae> I want to use the reiser4 filesystem
[21:14] <djisamsoe> edbian: i'm glad to that i'm watching your conversation with ProfOak.... useful to me too... thanks guys
[21:14] <edbian> ProfOak: Looks though like there is a totally different structure.  IDK what the stucture is like inside that package you get from deviant art
[21:14] <sebsebseb> aueoaouae: indeed
[21:14] <edbian> djisamsoe: NP!  Thank you for finding our file
[21:14] <ProfOak> edbian: I'm not even gonna try. Marginal costs exceed marginal benefits
[21:14] <aueoaouae> you called me stupid in a nonclever way
[21:14] <sebsebseb> aueoaouae: no
[21:15] <zigibagido> hello
[21:15] <edbian> ProfOak: You should try!  If you mess it up simply purge piding and then re-install it.
[21:15] <aueoaouae> ok a clever way
[21:15] <phaer> zigibagido: are all of your users in the same group? if so, just do a "chmod g+rwx" on the files (-R for directories)
[21:15] <sebsebseb> aueoaouae: Ubuntu isn't  normally run from  reiser, hence why it's greyed out in gparted I suppouse
[21:15] <rincon> how do install an extra theme to gnome ?
[21:15] <Jostein> you tell me ;)
[21:15] <ProfOak> edbian: It's not that. The icons aren't really doing it for me anymore.
[21:15] <edbian> ProfOak: lol ic
[21:15] <edbian> ProfOak: Fickle aren't we?
[21:16] <ProfOak> edbian: Well, I AM using linux, aren't I?
[21:16] <make> zigibagido you vsftpd.conf umask=???
[21:16] <zigibagido> what that
[21:16] <Pauluk1984> hi all ...currently testing crunchbang 9.04, i've asked this question in their channel but to no avail, as it's ubuntu based i thought maybe somebody here could help?
[21:16] <Edico> allquixotic, I solved my problem with the memory, Memory Remapping was disabled in BIOS
[21:16] <r3l1c> rincon:  download the theme drag and drop into appearance
[21:17] <edbian> Pauluk1984: That depends mostly on what the problem is :)
[21:17] <Pauluk1984> i wish to enlarge the persistant loop file size but i'm unsure how to do this
[21:17] <Edico> allquixotic, now I have MemTotal:        3954040 kB which is much better
[21:17] <mOrO^> rincon: System, Pref, Appearance....and just drag and drop the new theme into the window or there is an option to INSTALL
[21:17] <r3l1c> rincon:  or open appearance  and click install
[21:17] <deany> vsftp:  I made a new user and made the home folder too, I cant connect via vsftpd tho,  local_users is enabled?
[21:17] <rincon> r3l1c: are there not extra themes on repos?
[21:18] <embrik> is it possible to use the same options in scp as in cp?
[21:18] <r3l1c> I get mine from gnome-look.org and yes there are
[21:18] <N1ke_> Hey all ubuntu users, I need some help
[21:19] <oskar-> embrik, no, that are different programs. see the man pages
[21:19] <r3l1c> which version vsftp?
[21:19] <gartral> !ask | nike
[21:19] <edbian> !ask
[21:19] <N1ke_> I just installed Ubuntu, everything is working fine, but my sound is dead.
[21:19] <gartral> N1ke_: what sound card?
[21:20] <N1ke_> gartral: Good question.. I have no idea how to check it with ubuntu, and I don't remember it..
[21:20] <fiber> hello.... i have ubuntu minimal installed with awesomewm and i'm looking for recommendations for a good network manager.  I am currently using wicd however it seems to have problems with dhcp... anyone know of a good wired/wireless network manager that would work well and not have too many dependencies?
[21:20] <deany> r3l1c, one in repo (jaunty server)
[21:20] <zigibagido> I have vsftpd installed on Ubuntu desktop 9.04 and it works. I have 7 users and they are locked in their own home folder but i want a public folder. I made public folder they could all access but if one user creates a file or directory another user cant open it. I want to change the permissions of the files in public folder to let all users do what they want.
[21:20] <fg57lx> I'm having a problem with sound. When ever I listen to any music (on any media player) or watch any video (even youtube) the sound starts to skip and jump around. What would cause this, and how could I fix it?
[21:20] <Pauluk1984> if anybody could point me in the right direction regarding my question, would really appreciate it as i cant seem to find much documentation on it :)
[21:20] <deany> r3l1c, my first user (admin/sudoer) can
[21:21] <file_file> how to delete history from skype chat history?
[21:21] <gartral> N1ke_: open a terminal via Applications>Accessories>Terminal and type out lspci (thats LSPCI in lower case) and copy over *just* the sound line, please
[21:21] <lwizardl> is there a way to set all images inside a table to the same size? an easy way like setting text size
[21:21] <Bjornlaf> well i discovered my problem.. aparently you can't boot from ext4.. it's working now
[21:21] <Wizzup> N1ke_: lspci
[21:22] <zigibagido> can someone help me
[21:22] <gartral> Wizzup: I got him, thanks :)
[21:22] <N1ke_> Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP73 High Definition Audio (rev a1)
[21:22] <N1ke_> That one?
[21:22] <guntbert> file_file: open main menu/settings/privacy/chat history(disable)
[21:23] <deany> r3l1c, always login incorrect
[21:23] <zigibagido> can someone help me?
[21:23] <edbian> zigibagido: Are in that shared directory?
[21:23] <file_file> guntbert: thank you
[21:23] <oskar-> zigibagido, change the local_umask so that group has privileges. set the folder to a group, everyone is in. set the setgid flag of the folder.
[21:23] <edbian> zigibagido: What are the permissions on that directory?
[21:24] <gartral> N1ke_: thats an.. odd card.. ok, through System>Administration>Hardware Drivers activate the drivers for whatever it finds, i got an inkling that your going to find a few
[21:24] <edbian> zigibagido: Do what oskar said :)
[21:24] <oskar-> ;-)
[21:25] <Lukasz_Tarkowski> So howis everyone?
[21:25] <edbian> oskar-: How do you change the "local_umask" ??
[21:25] <oskar-> edbian, local_umask is a vsftpd option
[21:26] <edbian> oskar-: vsftpd is a program?
[21:26] <edbian> oskar-: I'm unfamiliar with umasks
[21:26] <Lukasz_Tarkowski> well gonna go to offtopic :p
[21:27] <oskar-> edbian, more precisely: it is a configuration variable in vsftpd.conf for the vsftpd ftp daemon
[21:27] <lwizardl> anyone know how to limit the image size inside a table?
[21:27] <edbian> oskar-: Thank you!
[21:27] <zigibagido> oskar: how am i supposed to do that
[21:27] <DouglasK> N1ke, double check the sliders on the volume control.... specifically, right click the speaker at the top, select "open volume control", and then make sure PCM is aroud 80.
[21:28] <edbian> oskar-: I don't seem to have a /etc/vsftpd.conf  ??
[21:28] <edbian> oskar-: I am just curious and this is totally unrelated to ftp :)
[21:28] <gartral> N1ke_: that was the other thing i was going to suggest, but i wanted to make sure you have drivers for it first
[21:29] <N1ke_> gartral: When I open the hardware drivers, I only get 2 options..  Both for my graphic card
[21:29] <robinro> Hi, I upgraded 8.10 -> 9.04 yesterday and since the third reboot after the upgrade my sound is extremely quiet. I checked all volume controls in alsamixer but can't find the problem; pavumeter shows volume at a normal level; Can somebody please help me to get sound again?
[21:30] <zigibagido> hello?
[21:30] <gartral> N1ke_: well, do as DouglasK said, and you might want too activate one of those drivers if you plan on gaming
[21:30] <N1ke_> gartral: I already have the latest one
[21:31] <gartral> robinro: erm.. silly Q: did you turn down your speakers physical volume controlls?
[21:31] <gartral> N1ke_: ok, as DouglasK said, open your Volume controlls and make sure most are at %100 except PCM which should stay around 80
[21:32] <wildc4rd> evening all
[21:32] <N1ke_> gartral: My computer peeps, when I backspaces to much... ?
[21:32] <robinro> gartral: no, i turned them up to max to just hear a quiet sound; on a normal level i can't hear anything
[21:32] <N1ke_> That must mean something
[21:32] <gartral> N1ke_: thats internal speaker..
[21:32] <oskar-> zigibagido, you have some users, that should have access to the shared folder "public". put their user accounts in a group "mygroup" on the server. "chgrp mygroup public", "chmod g+s public", and change local_umask in the vsftpd.conf to something, where the second octal number is the inverse of the group permissions, that new files should have
[21:32] <zigibagido> I have vsftpd installed on Ubuntu desktop. Users can not access other user create directories/files in my public directory. How to fix?
[21:32] <gartral> robinro: open your volume controlls and make sure you have all your sliders up
[21:33] <Al_nz_lapt> is there a command to see what users are logged on, and the relevant TTY session?
[21:33] <gartral> Al_nz_lapt: users
[21:33] <robinro> gartral: done, all@max
[21:33] <LjL> Al_nz_lapt: or "who" or "w"
[21:33] <oskar-> zigibagido, another solution is to to a recursive "chmod g+X+r+w public" all N minutes by cron
[21:34] <Al_nz_lapt> gartral: users just listed my user name about 3 times
[21:34] <uuv> Hey. I'm having problems installing ubuntu 9.04 I'd like to have a ntfs-drive, but when i try to choose the file system, ntfs won't show up. What's the matter?
[21:34] <oskar-> zigibagido, recursive would be "chmod -R g+X+r+w public"  ;-)
[21:34] <zigibagido> oskar: how do i do that (the n mintues)
[21:34] <Al_nz_lapt> it didnt say which tty session
[21:34] <Al_nz_lapt> ahhh - who did it
[21:34] <jpds> Al_nz_lapt: w does.
[21:34] <edbian> uuv: Linux cannot run from ntfs (you don't really want to anyway)  The default for ubuntu is ext3
[21:34] <gartral> robinro: now hit control-P and make sure all you options are enabled, paying atention too make sure External Amplifier is OFF
[21:34] <iceroot> zigibagido: /x * * * * your-command   (x = n minutes)
[21:34] <iceroot> zigibagido: crontab -e
[21:34] <uuv> edbian: Yes, I know, but i'd like to make a NTFS drive for movies and such
[21:35] <edbian> uuv: As a data partition?
[21:35] <uuv> Yes
[21:35] <linny> uuv: i may be wrong but i think the root fs cant be ntfs you can mount ntfs drives after tho
[21:35] <Al_nz_lapt> so is there a way, if I am in a reomte terminal session to monitor a existing tty session?
[21:35] <ghostknife> How can I figure out from which repository a specific package is?
[21:35] <Al_nz_lapt> like if a lengthy process is running?
[21:35] <edbian> uuv: Unless you need windows to also read this drive I STRONGLY suggest you use ext3.  Are you sure you want ntfs?
[21:35] <iceroot> ghostknife: apt-cache show packetname
[21:35] <guja> how can I format USB stick as ext3 from Ubuntu? thank you.
[21:35] <Chessguy> when i tried to check list in update manager, it says that it couldn't download all repository indexes, any idea why?
[21:35] <Lukasz_Tarkowski> how do I install sound in Ubuntu 9.04?
[21:35] <iceroot> ghostknife: also  apt-cache policy packetname
[21:36] <LjL> Al_nz_lapt: an *existing* one i wouldn't know, you can plan in advance and use "screen", though
[21:36] <linny> Lukasz_Tarkowski: could you tell us what sound card you have plx
[21:36] <uuv> Well I don't think I'll be using dual boot and in case I someday will, i'll be able to format the drive again. So you recommend ext3 then?
[21:36] <robinro> gartral:  "cd capture", "mic apture", "IEC958" and "IEC958 Default PCM" are off, Mix is on, is this ok?
[21:36] <Al_nz_lapt> LjL: ahh yes, i have heard of that
[21:36] <edbian> uuv: Ok PM me :)
[21:36] <Lukasz_Tarkowski> hmm
[21:36] <Lukasz_Tarkowski> how do I check?
[21:36] <N1ke_> Still doesn't work
[21:36] <Al_nz_lapt> will it work with a terminal session, or is it a VNC type program?
[21:36] <gartral> robinro: turn on Default PCM
[21:37] <LjL> Al_nz_lapt: it's purely terminal
[21:37] <LjL> !screen > Al_nz_lapt    (Al_nz_lapt, see the private message from ubottu)
[21:37] <Al_nz_lapt> kk
[21:37] <indie> does anyone know how to install an icon theme not packaged as a .tar.gz,; but rather a .zip containing both .png and .ico files?
[21:37] <Al_nz_lapt> and how do you identify which window your in? like pts/0 or pts/1?
[21:37] <robinro> gartral: done, but no change
[21:37] <LosFrijoles1> i just got a blinky caps lock light and the computer froze on my acer aspire one w/ ubuntu 9.04...what does this mean generally?
[21:38] <gartral> robinro: do you have pulse installed?
[21:38] <Lukasz_Tarkowski> Here you go [HDA Intel], device 0: ALC660-VD Analog
[21:38] <spO> does us.archive.ubuntu.com usually have connection problems?
[21:38] <Chessguy> when i tried to check list in update manager, it says that it couldn't download all repository indexes
[21:38] <jpds> spO: No.
[21:38] <Orang3> shino: ctrl+alt+f1
[21:38] <indie> LosFrijoles: I've had the same issue, when I asked around, I got something akin to "we're working on it"
[21:39] <LosFrijoles1> indie: well thats ...encouraging
[21:39] <N1ke_> gartral: Still doesn't work
[21:39] <Lukasz_Tarkowski> linny: [HDA Intel], device 0: ALC660-VD Analog  Here is my soundcard
[21:39] <jpds> spO: What's wrong with it at your end? pastebin apt-get output please.
[21:39] <gartral> N1ke_: hmm.. laptop or desktop?
[21:40] <N1ke_> desktop
[21:40] <linny> Lukasz_Tarkowski  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[21:40] <Al_nz_lapt> to look at a existing terminal session cant I look at a command like "tail -f /dev/pts/0" ?
[21:40] <robinro> gartral: yes, it worked before with 8.10 and also after the upgrade. pavumeter shows normal volume level and if a change the volume in pavucontrol it works, but its still quite if everything is at max
[21:40] <indie> LosFrijoles: Ya...I noticed that my machine only does that when interfacing with certain devices (ie. my android phone in recovery mode)
[21:40] <linny> Lukasz_Tarkowski: if you have probs then come and ask :)
[21:41] <gartral> robinro: what applications have you tryed playing from?
[21:41] <gartral> N1ke_: is the card built into the mobo or is it a pci card?
[21:41] <robinro> gartral: rhythmbox, vlc, aplay from console
[21:42] <LosFrijoles1> indie: i was using httrack and left my comp on the couch for about 4 hours, so im going to guess either something overheated or the kernel didn't like my computer for a moment
[21:42] <ManDay> Hello guys, I wonder whether I can set IRC as a sort of "Desktop background"  - any idea?
[21:42] <N1ke_> gartral: Build-in
[21:42] <Lukasz_Tarkowski> ok
[21:43] <LosFrijoles1> ManDay: look up using xml files as backgrounds? i had an animated desktop background that used one to animate based on the time of day
[21:43] <linny> ManDay: you could use a terminal based irc client and then set your terminal as a desktop
[21:43] <ManDay> Hmmm... like irssi?
[21:43] <ManDay> How do you usually set a term as background in gnome?
[21:43] <linny> ManDay:  sure
[21:43] <indie> <LosFrijoles: Overheating shouldn't cause that, when the temp reaches 94C the computer just shuts down.
[21:44] <linny> ManDay: google it theres millions of tuts on that oti
[21:44] <ManDay> Stupid question: Is there a GUI'ed place in ubuntu to change the user passwd?
[21:44] <Lukasz_Tarkowski> linny: I got the Ubuntu 9.04 Desktop version
[21:44] <ManDay> thanks Lingus
[21:44] <ManDay> sorry, linny
[21:44] <gartral> N1ke_: not sure :\
[21:44] <N1ke_> Gah damit
[21:44] <Inc`> ManDay: System -> Preferences -> About Me -> Change Password
[21:44] <indie> <ManDay: Administration>Users and Groups?
[21:44] <Lukasz_Tarkowski> linny: doesn't exist sudo nano /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[21:44] <ManDay> thanks Inc`
[21:45] <ManDay> Inc`, it crashes because I removed evolution
[21:45] <ManDay> thanks indie
[21:45] <N1ke_> gartral: I got a new error however,  When I try to install Adobe flash player, I get Error: Wrong architecture 'i386'
[21:45] <linny> Lukasz_Tarkowski: i see tbh i didnt realise it was old
[21:46] <gartral> N1ke_: thats because you have a 64 bit system, you should try installing through synaptic
[21:48] <Beatlesfan> hi
[21:48] <Beatlesfan> can anyone help me with a gnome remote desktop issue?
[21:48] <LosFrijoles1> beatlesfan: what is the problem
[21:48] <iceroot> !details | Beatlesfan
[21:49] <Beatlesfan> I have a PC running Ubuntu 9.04 at home and using vpnc and gnome-rdp, it was working fine the other day but now I'm getting a getaddrinfo error
[21:49] <Beatlesfan> using RDP to access work PC
[21:49] <file_file> how can i hide my email info from sky contact information?
[21:49] <Beatlesfan> and yes, I tried the IP address instead of the client PC name
[21:50] <iceroot> Beatlesfan: you can ping the adress?
[21:50] <Beatlesfan> when I try the IP address the remote desktop appears but all in blue with no login prompt
[21:50] <Beatlesfan> yes
[21:50] <robinro> gartral: thanks for your help so far; any other ideas what i could try to get a normal-volume sound?
[21:50] <Beatlesfan> I can ping the address and I can ping the VPN server address
[21:50] <Beatlesfan> and I can connect using VPN
[21:50] <Beatlesfan> VPNC rather
[21:50] <gartral> robinro: well.. what card do you have?
[21:51] <robinro> gartral: 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)
[21:51] <pratik_narain> any alternatives to glchess for 3d chess game
[21:52] <Pauluk1984> hi all... currently running a ubuntu remake on usb ...earlier it was recognising my wireless card no problem and picking up surrounding networks but now it only gives me the wired connection option, any suggestions how to remedy this?
[21:53] <tigron82> où je suis rendu?
[21:53] <Flinty> How would I get "emerald --replace" to run at login automatically ?
[21:53] <guntbert> !fr < tigron82
[21:53] <guntbert> !fr | tigron82
[21:54] <edbian> Flinty: Add it to "Start-Up Applications" :)
[21:54] <Beatlesfan> iceroot: any idea?
[21:54] <tigron82> thanks
[21:54] <Flinty> Ah thanks that's it. I spent a good 5 minutes looking for that
[21:55] <gartral> robinro: not *likely* but give this a shot sudo apt-get install linux-sound-base
[21:55] <ManDay> i got about a stupid question: How do I quit SSH? (not implicitly through closing all promts but explicitly - so screen remains running)
[21:55] <iceroot> Beatlesfan: sorry no
[21:55] <Flinty> I think you can use the screen program ManDay
[21:56] <spO> how do i make it so ubuntu doesn't automaticcally start desktop and starts console?
[21:56] <robinro> gartral: already installed
[21:56] <DouglasK> To quit an SSH session, try typing ~.
[21:56] <spO> douglask, why not type quit?
[21:56] <edbian> sp0 "sudo apt-get remove gdm"
[21:56] <DouglasK> sp0 cause he doesn't want to exit screen.
[21:57] <ManDay> Flinty, mind to explain?
[21:57] <guntbert> ManDay: you'll have to detach from your screen session (<ctrl>a d I think) first, then <ctrl>d
[21:57] <ManDay> guntbert, of course i could first detach but i dont want to
[21:57] <pratik_narain> any alternatives to glchess for 3d chess game
[21:57] <DouglasK> Alternatively, press Ctrl+A, d then exit as normal
[21:57] <ManDay> i just want to quit SSH by killing the connection
[21:57] <iceroot> spO: at the session manager (where you login with your password, you can choose what will start, gnome, kde, xfce4, shell, remote and so on
[21:57] <guntbert> ManDay: why not? where is the problem?
[21:57] <gbear14275> my install appears to be jacked up... apart from saving my home directory... is there any sort of tools which can help me ensure I don't lose any data during a reinstall?
[21:57] <DouglasK> the first option simply kills ssh, the second detaches the screen.
[21:57] <spO> edian, i don't want it removed, i simply want console to start instead of desktop
[21:58] <lightningseed> what about typing "exit"
[21:58] <ManDay> well its too many keystrokes to first detach screen and stuff
[21:58] <gbear14275> never done one in linux before... a little worried to be honest
[21:58] <lightningseed> that kept me in screen when I used sudo I five minutes ago
[21:58] <ManDay> i mean i could simply close the xterm in which SSH runs, but i want to keep the terminal window open
[21:58] <guntbert> !who | ManDay
[21:58] <edbian> ManDay: ctrl + c  ??
[21:59] <guntbert> ManDay: not that I know of such a possibility
[21:59] <gartral> robinro: all i found, sorry >.>
[21:59] <DouglasK> ManDay, two options: One, type ~. to quit SSH, Two, type ^A, d and then type quit
[21:59] <anxiolytic_> Harro! I'm looking for circuit design/analysis software for Linux. PSpice/spice? it says the ngspice package is obsolete
[21:59] <Jare> ManDay: <ctrl> a + <shift> D D. detaches screen and exits ssh
[22:01] <gbear14275> anyone ever use any ubuntu backup solutions?
[22:01] <Jare> and without the "+" of course, so "<ctrl> a <shift> D D"
[22:01] <zenwryly> Is there a way to use a directory with *.debs in it but no Packages file as an apt source?
[22:01] <SmackTalk> how do I get into super user mode
[22:01] <gbear14275> SmackTalk: open a terminal and type su
[22:01] <edbian> SmackTalk: in a terminal: "sudo <command>
[22:01] <lstarnes> gbear14275: no
[22:01] <lightningseed> use sudo SmackTalk
[22:02] <lstarnes> SmackTalk: sudo -i
[22:02] <anxiolytic_> anyone? SPICE? apt says the ngspice package is obsolete
[22:02] <lstarnes> gbear14275: su requires the root password (which shouldn't exist)
[22:02] <ManDay> edbian, ctrl c, how that? im still in screen, you remember? gunbert, weird. putty in windows can :P DouglasK what do you mena type "~." ?
[22:02] <lstarnes> gbear14275: sudo -i is the preferred method for running interactively as root
[22:03]  * eth01 is sat in the bath..
[22:03] <gbear14275> lstarnes: sorry, your right... what are the differences between sudo -i and sudo su
[22:03] <eth01> (Wrong channel!)
[22:03] <DouglasK> I mean, to exit an ssh session, press ~ then press .   ... in the default SSH configuration, that will end the ssh connection.
[22:03] <robinro> gartral: thanks for your help; maybe its related to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/336125; i'll try an older kernel
[22:03] <lstarnes> gbear14275: sudo su starts both sudo and su
[22:03] <shishie> hi -- pulseaudio outputs to my pc speaker instead of the speakers i have plugged to my pc, or the headphones. any ideas?? this doesn't happen to the other user in this computer (uid 1000)
[22:03] <DouglasK> ManDay,  I mean, to exit an ssh session, press ~ then press .   ... in the default SSH configuration, that will end the ssh connection.
[22:03] <lstarnes> gbear14275: sudo -i just starts sudo
[22:04] <lstarnes> gbear14275: plus sudo is more secure
[22:04] <gbear14275> su is a true "root" though?
[22:04] <ManDay> errm well that kind of combo is totally new. considering that i am on a german keylayout the keys appear a little confusing too
[22:04] <lightningseed> lstarnes: I would say both sudo and su both have their merits depending on your security policy
[22:04] <lstarnes> gbear14275: so is sudo -i
[22:04] <gbear14275> or would you have to sudo su root
[22:04] <mara> gente como faco para entrar nop msn
[22:05] <shishie> mara: sudo apt-get install emesene
[22:05] <ManDay> DouglasK, I tried pressing ~ and . but nothing happens
[22:06] <DouglasK> ManDay, and you were in an SSH connection using ssh in a ubuntu terminal?
[22:06] <ManDay> yes
[22:06] <DouglasK> ManDay, weird.  for me, I tested it, and it terminated the connection, just as the ssh manpage says
[22:06] <ManDay> what keyboard do you use?
[22:07] <gbear14275> anyone suggest a method for backing up before a re-install?
[22:07] <ManDay> where is it in the ssh man, DouglasK ? i searched for exit but there was none like that
[22:07] <DouglasK> US standard .. it's a laptop, but i've used it from a standard PC-104 us kbd.
[22:07] <DouglasK> ManDay, Search for escape in the manpage
[22:08] <jrib> ManDay: tried pressing enter before typing the escape?
[22:08] <ManDay> typing escape?
[22:08] <DouglasK> jrib, I didn't think of that... may help ManDay
[22:08] <ManDay> i never typed escaape
[22:09] <pratik_narain> any alternatives to glchess for 3d chess game
[22:09] <ManDay> i tried "~." as he suggested
[22:09] <jrib> ManDay: by "the escape" I mean ~
[22:09] <ManDay> ah ok
[22:09] <ManDay> typing enter BEFORE i hit it...
[22:09] <jrib> ManDay: yes
[22:09] <insigne> como faço pra entra no msn amigo
[22:10] <jrib> !br | insigne
[22:10] <ManDay> i m trying to make sure i get the right escape character by setting it in -e but i keep getting "bad escape character" as response
[22:11] <ManDay> even ~ itsself is considered "bad"
[22:11] <ManDay> not to mention ö and ä and #
[22:11] <FrozenInferno> i'm having a problem with with the gnome power manager
[22:11] <Mpole> greetings everyone.
[22:11] <dillard> does anyone know anything about avant windows navigator everytime i open a applications it puts two icons of each in the dock
[22:12] <lwizardl> in openoffice writer when i double click the image i get 1.13"w .85"H and i get set that to all them by hand but is there a way to set that for all images in the table?
[22:12] <Mpole> i need help. i just burned the Ubuntu 9.04 ISO. How do I install Ubuntu on a Mac?
[22:12] <buckwild> can someone please help me get my dvd burner working??
[22:12] <ManDay> well, at least if i set the esc-character to something totally useless such as "g" it works, DouglasK
[22:12] <LzO> hello I successfully installed ubuntu and updated it, now I want to install ATI drivers
[22:12] <orksbane> dillard are you double clicking?
[22:12] <ManDay> but i cant use any esc-character that would make sensse because they are all considered "bad"
[22:12] <guntbert> lwizardl: ask in #openoffice.org please
[22:12] <LzO> how to do it? and I need to use the default drivers or download it from ati site?
[22:12] <mac9416> Hello, how do I enable someone to view my desktop over VNC?
[22:13] <lwizardl> guntbert: did that
[22:13] <dillard> no im not
[22:13] <FrozenInferno> can anyone help me with a power manager problem? i set it to suspend when i close my lid, but all that does is lock it.
[22:13] <edbian> mac9416: System -> Preferences -> Remote Desktop
[22:13] <LzO> how to install ATI drivers?
[22:13] <LzO> I found different guides :S
[22:14] <mac9416> edbian, I enable, it says "Your desktop is only reachable over the local network. Others can access your computer using the address localhost."
[22:14] <edbian> mac9416: yeah so...
[22:14] <mac9416> edbian, how do I enable over the Internet? :-)
[22:14] <lstarnes> LzO: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[22:14] <edbian> mac9416: I thought we'd get to this :)
[22:14] <edbian> PM me
[22:14] <mac9416> lol
[22:14] <Jare> ManDay: i still think that power detach was what you were looking for and it works without extra tweaking...
[22:15] <Mpole> how do i install Ubuntu 9.04 on a mac?
[22:15] <Chazz> Mpole, parition and install
[22:15] <ManDay> yes jare
[22:15] <ManDay> thats the solution
[22:15] <LzO> lstarnes: thx
[22:15] <jordyd> Mpole, stick the CD in, restart
[22:15] <ManDay> just now i have the problem that i cant get a freaking esc-key to work, Jare
[22:15] <Mpole> Chazz: can you elaborate please? i have burned the 9.04 ISO on a CD.
[22:16] <jrib> Mpole: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages
[22:16] <ManDay> thanks DouglasK btw
[22:16] <FrozenInferno> how do i set ubuntu to suspend on lid close? i set it that way in the power manager, and all that happens is that it lockss my screen.
[22:16] <LosFrijoles> does anyone know why a computer with two nics would let me ssh into it, but it can't do anything on outgoing (ping, apt updates, etc)?
[22:16] <SmackTalk> how do I restart the tomcat server?
[22:16] <Chazz> ok, next, boot into Ubuntu Live CD
[22:16] <dc2448> I have upgraded to karmic and now my broadcom wireless can not see my WPA only wireless access point - can scan using iwlist and see other access points but not my own
[22:16] <DouglasK> ManDay, no worries.  take care.
[22:16] <Chazz> then open GParted
[22:16] <jdicesare>  Just started my new Inspiron Mini 10 with Ubuntu.  When I try to open Open Office Document it stops on the Open office Loading splash screen and bogs down my system.  Is there a problem with Open Office or Sun Java? and how do I fix?
[22:16] <buckwild> my dvd rw does not play movies can anyone assist please??
[22:16] <jrib> ManDay: ~ should be the default escape character, but when you specified it with -e, were you sure to escape it from the shell so it doesn't get expanded to /home/manday?
[22:16] <Chazz> and make a parition for ubuntu, then install it to the new parition
[22:16] <jrib> !dvd > buckwild
[22:17] <guntbert> Jare: I missed something: what is "power detach"?
[22:17] <jrib> Mpole: I'm not sure if grub can handle booting os x or not.  Most people use rEFIt on macs.  The link I gave you has detailed instructions
[22:18] <buckwild> jrib:  what does that mean?  i'm new to ubuntu
[22:18] <Jare> guntbert: <ctrl> a <shift> D D. it detaches screen *and* closes the ssh connection
[22:18] <jrib> buckwild: it tells ubottu to send you information.  Did you get a private message from him?
[22:18] <buckwild> yes
[22:18] <sebsebseb> buckwild: To play commercial DVD's in Ubuntu you need  libdvdcss2   however that program is maybe not fully legal in USA
[22:18] <jrib> buckwild: read the link he gave you as it contains instructions on playing DVDs
[22:19] <karanbhangui> hi
[22:19] <sebsebseb> buckwild: well yeah  not fully legal
[22:19] <guntbert> Jare: ahh - I thought you were referring to a special software :-), thx
[22:19] <buckwild> jrib: thanx
[22:19] <karanbhangui> i'm trying to install a python package called JPype
[22:19] <sebsebseb> !medibuntu |  buckwild
[22:19] <karanbhangui> and i'm not able to do so because GCC complains my jvm path is wrong
[22:19] <karanbhangui> i have it as /usr/lib/jvm/java... is this correct?
[22:20] <FrozenInferno> why would my screen lock when i shut my lid instead of suspend, when my power manager options tells my pc to suspend upon shutting the lid?
[22:20] <jdicesare>  Just started my new Dell Inspiron Mini 10 with Ubuntu.  When I try to open Open Office Document it stops on the Open office Loading splash screen and bogs down my system.  Is there a problem with Open Office or Sun Java? and how do I fix?
[22:20] <MementoMori> hi
[22:20] <LzO> 9.04 it's Jaunty version?
[22:21] <sebsebseb> !9.04 |  LzO
[22:21] <bastidrazor> FrozenInferno, when you come back from a suspend the screen is locked.
[22:21] <LzO> --buildpkg Ubuntu/<version>
[22:21] <LzO> so I need to type Jaunty?
[22:22] <sebsebseb> LzO: What do you want to do?
[22:22] <LzO> install ati drivers from ati.com
[22:22] <N1ke_> gartral: I solved it, tho I have yet again, another problem
[22:22] <LzO> or you recommend me open source drivers?
[22:22] <sebsebseb> LzO: getting the nivida drivers directly from nivida can cause right problems,  I guess the same is for ATI,  you get from the Ubuntu repo,  unless you really have to get from the website
[22:23] <MementoMori> LzO: dont you like the one you can install using jockey?
[22:23] <sebsebseb> !ati |  LzO
[22:23] <FrozenInferno> bastidrazor, i know, but my machine never suspends. i have LEDs on the outside of my lid that blink depending on what action is going on. a white LED stays lit when the pc is fully powered, but it blinks when suspending. when i shut my lid, that LED stays lit. i also have a battery LED that turns off when suspending, but it stays on as well
[22:23] <N1ke_> I got the sound, but it's in the headphone holes in the Front of my deskop.. any ideas how to change the sound going from the front to the back ones?
[22:23] <gartral> N1ke_: thats good, but whats your new problem?
[22:23] <FrozenInferno> bastidrazor, i can, however, manually suspend, either by pressing the suspend button, or choosing suspend from the power menu
[22:23] <jdicesare> Got disconnected.   Just started my new Inspiron Mini 10 with Ubuntu.  When I try to open Open Office Document it stops on the Open office Loading splash screen and bogs down my system.  Is there a problem with Open Office or Sun Java? and how do I fix?
[22:24] <gartral> N1ke_: system>preferences>sound play around in there till you have it where you like it
[22:24] <LzO> but the one in ubuntu repo have control panel?
[22:24] <LzO> I want to increase fan rpm
[22:25] <GArReT> Hey guys. What Version of TCL do i need to run eggdrop?
[22:25] <GArReT> i've downloaded 8.5
[22:25] <GArReT> but when i ./configure the eggdrop. it says tcl not installed
[22:27] <GArReT> anyone?
[22:27] <spO> i do a git clone git://kernel.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-jaunty.git , then i do a git checkout Ubuntu-2.6.28-15.48 , then git fetch, but when i do a make menuconfig the top of the menu says .config - Linux kernel v2.6.28.10 Configuration
[22:28] <LzO> the ubuntu ati driver have control panel?
[22:28] <LzO> sorry for my english
[22:28] <centropy> evening all
[22:28] <LzO> such vsync on/off and many more
[22:29] <Morpheus> hello. with which command can i search for an user on a server? i'm using xchat
[22:29] <centropy> anybody in for some help?
[22:29] <robinro> gartral: found the problem: with 8.10 the volume controls on my laptop changed the software-defined volume; with 9.04 they don't, but change the volume without notifying the user...
[22:29] <centropy> can anybody help me create a win98usb boot stick under ubuntu?
[22:30] <sebsebseb> centropy: don't think you can just do that, also Windows 98 is old and it's been quite a few years now with it not being supported by Microsoft
[22:30] <mikebeecham> could anyone tell me if there's any way to put a background or panel behind conky text?
[22:30] <centropy> Only need the bootup to flash my ssd's sebsebseb
[22:30] <sebsebseb> centropy: most of Windows 98  programs you can get working under Wine I think,   also with enough RAM you can virtual machine Windows 98 inside Ubuntu
[22:31] <sebsebseb> centropy: ok well this is the wrong channal really I think,  try ##windows
[22:31] <centropy> no i dont think so sebsebseb ... i wanna make one under ubuntu
[22:31] <sebsebseb> !unetbootin |  centropy
[22:31] <sebsebseb> centropy:  maybe you can  use  that
[22:31] <centropy> Already installed that ... but the flash program dont runs under freedos
[22:32] <centropy> so i tryed that
[22:32] <sebsebseb> centropy: freedos ???
[22:33] <centropy> yeah that is out of the box sebsebseb...also tryed a win98.iso with only the bootfiles on it... but doesnt work
[22:34] <meanburrito920_> I'm having a brain fart moment here: what is the name of the program that allows you to do disk formatting?
[22:35] <mac9416> Hello, how do I enable someone to view my desktop over the Internet with VNC?
[22:35] <iceroot> meanburrito920_: gparted
[22:35] <meanburrito920_> iceroot: thanks :)
[22:35] <thiebaude> !gparted
[22:35] <th0r> mac9416: you give them the view only password to your vnc server
[22:35] <sebsebseb> centropy: try ##linux
[22:35] <iceroot> mac9416: system-settings-remote desktop
[22:36] <sebsebseb> centropy: or maybe your just a troll really
[22:36] <iceroot> mac9416: i hope the translation is correct
[22:36] <mac9416> th0r, iceroot, well I want them to control it, but it's saying only users on the local network or localhost can connect.
[22:36] <iceroot> why some channels have ## instead of #?
[22:36] <mac9416> iceroot, ask #freenode
[22:36] <sebsebseb> iceroot: # is offical and  ## is unoffical
[22:36] <mac9416> Ah
[22:37] <iceroot> mac9416: you have to forward your pc to the wan
[22:37] <centropy> no im serious sebsebseb i must update my ssd's
[22:37] <iceroot> sebsebseb: ok, thx
[22:37] <mac9416> iceroot, how do I go about doing that?
[22:37] <centropy> don making this up
[22:37] <iceroot> mac9416: look at the manual from your router
[22:37] <iceroot> mac9416: port 5900 has to be forwarded to your local-pc
[22:37] <mac9416> iceroot, I'm connecting via wireless broadband.
[22:37] <Chazz> sebsebseb, wrong
[22:38] <Chazz> iceroot, #
[22:38] <sebsebseb> Chazz: what?    maybe link them to the channal naming  page
[22:38] <Chazz> erm
[22:38] <iceroot> mac9416: so there is no router or gateway? your a connected directly with a wan-adress n your client?
[22:38] <centropy> Chazz:  are you also on teranova?
[22:38] <th0r> iceroot: it is actually 5901 through 5907 depending on the initial invocation of vncserver
[22:38] <Chazz> centropy, nope
[22:38] <centropy> k other chazz
[22:38] <mac9416> iceroot, I don't have a router, but I'm not sure about the second one. I guess.
[22:38] <insigne> como entrar no msn
[22:39] <iceroot> mac9416: ifconfig, look if there is a ip doenst start with 192.168.
[22:39] <sebsebseb> 1!es |  insigne
[22:39] <mac9416> iceroot, it does not.
[22:39] <sebsebseb> !es
[22:39] <sebsebseb> !br
[22:39] <iceroot> th0r: hm, normal vnc is using 5900 imo. but long time not used
[22:39] <centropy> gues u dont know to fix my problem sebsebseb
[22:40] <sebsebseb> centropy: you can try ##hardware as well
[22:40] <sebsebseb> centropy: in fact all the channals I suggested you  try,  are bound to have Linux users in them, right now
[22:40] <th0r> iceroot: 5900 would be for a vncserver on screen :0, which is the one you see at the computer. I think you normally run vncserver on :1 or higher
[22:40] <centropy> oke
[22:40] <thiebaude> bbl, going to watch soccer
[22:40] <centropy> gonne watch over there... tnx for your time sebsebseb
[22:40] <spO> why does make menuconfig show that my kernel configuration is 2.6.28-10 when i am trying to configure a 2.6.28-15 kernel?
[22:40] <sebsebseb> centropy: ok good luck
[22:41] <iceroot> th0r: ah ok, i was at the windows-vnc. dont thought at screen :1 and so on for linux-server
[22:41] <mac9416> iceroot, Chazz, perhaps it's because I don't have tightvnc installed.
[22:41] <Pauluk1984> please can somebody help me?  my system no longer see's my wireless adapter, i've tried removing NM and installing WICD but this too refuses
[22:41] <iceroot> mac9416: your pc has a ip with 192.168. or a wan-ip?
[22:42] <th0r> Pauluk1984: reboot into an earlier kernel and see if the wifi comes back
[22:42] <mac9416> iceroot, not 192.168.
[22:42] <Chazz> sebsebseb, iceroot http://freenode.net/policy.shtml#channelnaming for the # and ## thing
[22:42] <iceroot> Chazz: thx, i will have a look
[22:42] <Pauluk1984> thor: i have no idea how to do this lol, i'm new to linux
[22:42] <sebsebseb> Chazz: indeed
[22:42] <Chazz> yw
[22:44] <th0r> Pauluk1984: when you reboot you will see a 3 second countdown. Press ESC during that 3 seconds and you will get a menu of the installed kernels. I suspect you are using the highest number (2.6.28-15) which has just recently come out. See if you have 2.6.28-13, and if so boot into that. Any number lower than -15 (or whatever you are using) is worth a try
[22:44] <Pauluk1984> this makes a lot of sense, i did a system upgrade earlier and that's when the wireless stopped
[22:44] <spO> has any of you ever configured your own kernel?  when you do a make menuconfig it shows an older version than the current stable on at the top of the configuration?  IE,  the same configuration is used for newer kernels?
[22:45] <th0r> Pauluk1984: also, unless you have used wicd before I would suggest reinstalling network manager....solve one problem at a time
[22:45] <Pauluk1984> but i wouldnt know how to tell linux which kernel to load
[22:45] <th0r> Pauluk1984: you just use the cursor keys to highlight the one you want
[22:45] <Pauluk1984> i've used wicd a few times and it seems more reliable than NM...
[22:45] <Pauluk1984> ok thanks i'll try :)
[22:45] <Pauluk1984> brb
[22:45] <Lukasz_Tarkowski> bye for now
[22:46] <sebsebseb> spO:   Not many Ubuntu users if any really, will compile their own kernel
[22:46] <Shinobi> hi, i just installed unreal tournament 2004, i cant find the folder it was installe dto
[22:47] <sebsebseb> spO: if you install a new kernel,  or in your case compile it youself,   sure  grub's menu.lst will have  the old kernel on it still,  unless you remove the enteries, or  remove the kernel yourself
[22:48] <sebsebseb> Shinobi: the  program user data will be in  a hidden folder in home
[22:48] <Shinobi> so how owuld i get to it?
[22:48] <Shinobi> would*
[22:48] <sebsebseb> Shinobi: remind me  if that game is a native Linux game, or  one you have done in Wine
[22:49] <spO> seb, when i do a make menuconfig to configure a new kernel, it lists 2.6.28-10 at the top , but i am trying to isntall a 2.6.28-15 kernel
[22:49] <Shinobi> native
[22:49] <sebsebseb> Shinobi: look around your hidden folders in home for it.   it may be in another folder.   .local or something.   open  home and view  > show hidden files and folders
[22:50] <sebsebseb> spO: 2.6.28-15   hmm   2.6.28-13-generic  is the current kernel from the repo for 9.04 :)    you can also get  2.6.30  or slightly later using a ppa
[22:50] <noquinho> hi everybody
[22:51] <sebsebseb> !hi |  noquinho
[22:51] <onedeadubuntu> hello!  i installed jaunty 9.04 on a core2quad.. used it for a few weeks, and it has worked great until this afternoon.. now it just freezes on boot... 'Setting keymap and console font'...  there is still hard drive activity, and the keyboard leds still change, and i can switch virtual terminals.. so it's not dead as such... but i want it back!
[22:51] <anatolie|ubuntuV> hello
[22:51] <anatolie|ubuntuV> all
[22:51] <anatolie|ubuntuV> how are we all?????????//
[22:52] <onedeadubuntu> i have booted from a live cd ubuntu.... and what i would like to do is access the partition on the drive, to see what's going wrong.. yet when i issue and fdisk -l  ... it shows no drives..  how can i mount the ubuntu HD install from the live CD boot please?
[22:53] <sebsebseb> onedeadubuntu: places > computer  is it there?
[22:53] <onedeadubuntu> ahh! hehe! sorry sebsebseb!  thanks for that!
[22:53] <sebsebseb> onedeadubuntu: no probs
[22:53] <onedeadubuntu> how would i do it the old fashioned way?  using fdisk and mount?
[22:53] <noquinho> could u help me to install songbird ?
[22:53] <spO> sebsebseb, i did git clone git://kernel.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-jaunty.git , git checkout Ubuntu-2.6.28-15.48 ,  git fetch   , but make menuconfig shows an older version, i don't understand
[22:53] <sebsebseb> !info songbird
[22:54] <sebsebseb> noquinho: get a Deb from the website for Ubuntu, or something
[22:54] <noquinho> i did it
[22:54] <noquinho> but i dont know how to install
[22:54] <sebsebseb> !find mozilla
[22:55] <sebsebseb> noquinho: you sure  there isn't one in the repo, just under a differnet name?   maybe mozilla-songbird for example
[22:55] <Excelsior> Hi people. I think I broke my raid Array and really need some help :(
[22:55] <ubuntuella> noquinho: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Songbird
[22:55] <n00b2Hack> Hi, good afternoon. I have a problem with my ubuntu 9, is installed in a Virtual machine with VirtualBox
[22:55] <mc1> Hello everybody
[22:56] <mc1> i need some help
[22:56] <sebsebseb> ubuntuella:  :)
[22:56] <sebsebseb> !details |  mc1
[22:56]  * bgryderclock fumbles with irc howto notes...
[22:56] <blognewb> does anyone know a control panel that would work for NGINX? i am so frustrated and at my wit's end :''''(
[22:56] <mc1> i droped Windows
[22:56] <sebsebseb> mc1: right and?
[22:56] <mc1> i've  been
[22:56] <onedeadubuntu> thanks sebsebseb off to re-boot.. wish me luck as you wave me goodbye!
[22:56] <mc1> using ubuntu
[22:56] <sebsebseb> !enter | mc1
[22:56] <Pauluk1984> is there any way i can tell linux to use an earlier kernel whilst in terminal instead of waiting for exit? ... i cant stop the shutdown in time to select the older kernel
[22:56] <mc1> and i fell pretty happy with it
[22:57] <mc1> but...
[22:57] <mc1> the last two installations
[22:57] <Excelsior> (he feels like flooding awhile)
[22:57] <mc1> of version 8 and then switched to jaunty
[22:57] <sebsebseb> Excelsior: yeah seems so
[22:57] <danbhfive> Pauluk1984: isnt the kernel selected at bootup, not shutdown?
[22:57] <mc1> i was doing an update with Synaptic
[22:57] <Excelsior> no one can help me with software raid and mdadm ?
[22:57] <guntbert> spO: could it be that you are in the wrong directory?
[22:58] <mc1> and i got an error message saying that the package was broken
[22:58] <graeme> evening
[22:58] <mc1> and it says to type on the terminal "sudo dpkg --configure -a
[22:58] <mc1> to solve the inconsistency
[22:58] <sebsebseb> mc1: ok so do that
[22:59] <mc1> but nothing gets fixed
[22:59] <mc1> i've checked forums
[22:59] <Pauluk1984> i tried at startup and shutdown to no avail.
[22:59] <mc1> and it very much seems a lot of people are having the same prob
[22:59] <mc1> now i can't install anything
[23:00] <sebsebseb> mc1: if you open synaptic and  do  edit > fix broken packages
[23:00] <sebsebseb> mc1: that may do it
[23:00] <mc1> how?? i can't open it
[23:00] <bigdavejoker> I'm trying to get vmware server up and running it seemed to install properly but I can't figure how to launch the eprogram so I can configure a vmwarae image
[23:00] <guntbert> mc1: please don't press <enter> so often, you make it very difficult to read your questions
[23:00] <bigdavejoker> do I have to have vmplayer installed as well
[23:00] <mc1> because i get an errror window and as soon as i close it the whole thing closes
[23:01] <sebsebseb> mc1: oh I SEE
[23:01] <mc1> ok.  sorry. my first time on ircd
[23:01] <mc1> irc
[23:01] <Shinobi> how do i open a root file browser?
[23:01] <sebsebseb> mc1: what's the error message/
[23:01] <sebsebseb> ?
[23:01] <noquinho> ok
[23:01] <mc1> one second please...
[23:01] <noquinho> i did it
[23:02] <theatro> mc1, have you tried this in that order:  apt-get clean ; apt-get update ; apt-get dist-upgrade
[23:02] <pauljw> no bigdavejoker , server is all you'll need.  check in at #vmware and see if they can help
[23:02] <mc1> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[23:02] <mc1> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[23:02] <LinuX2half> how do I change my terminal title?
[23:02] <noquinho> now i have a little box in my desktop called songbird 1.2......amd64.db
[23:02] <guntbert> Shinobi: usually you shouldn't need to do that - what is your problem?
[23:02] <noquinho> and now?
[23:02] <graeme> Shinobi: sudo nautilus
[23:02] <Shinobi> copying files to a folder owned by root
[23:02] <bigdavejoker> pauljw thanks!
[23:02] <pauljw> yw
[23:02] <Shinobi> ty
[23:03] <guntbert> graeme: Shinobi use gksudo with nautilus
[23:03] <mc1> i go to the terminal to do what it says and i get: # dpkg --configure -a
[23:03] <mc1> Setting up initramfs-tools (0.92bubuntu29) ...
[23:03] <mc1> update-initramfs: deferring update (trigger activated)
[23:03] <mc1> Processing triggers for initramfs-tools ...
[23:03] <mc1> update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.28-14-generic
[23:03] <FloodBot2> mc1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:03] <mc1> cpio: ./bin/udevinfo: Cannot stat: No such file or directory
[23:03] <guntbert> !gksudo | graeme Shinobi
[23:03] <lstarnes> mc1: that should be sudo dpkg --configure -a
[23:03] <LinuX2half> how do I reset my terminal title?
[23:04] <mc1> sorry man!  i don't know how to use this medium
[23:04] <mc1> i've tried that too
[23:04] <sebsebseb> !pastebin |  mc1
[23:04] <guntbert> Shinobi: you can copy the files from command line too
[23:05] <Shinobi> yea, im still used to cmd not terminal
[23:05] <mc1> ok
[23:05] <ubuntuNoob> hi all
[23:05] <mc1> but, can i get help here??
[23:05] <ubuntuNoob> i need help too :)
[23:06] <sebsebseb> mc1: probably, but pastebin  a lot of text, and give people links
[23:06] <ubuntuNoob> i'm a total noob in the linux world..
[23:06] <LinuX2half> how to reset terminal title for bask
[23:06] <sebsebseb> !ask |  ubuntuNoob
[23:06] <sebsebseb> !details |  ubuntuNoob
[23:06] <ubuntuNoob> oook... so
[23:06] <noquinho> i tried to install songbird
[23:07] <ubuntuNoob> i got ubuntu desktop installed on an usb stick
[23:07] <ubuntuNoob> running now from here
[23:07] <noquinho> but gave me arquiteture error
[23:07] <noquinho> ?????
[23:07] <guntbert> Shinobi: doing such things (graphical filemanager) as root *can* cause trouble if you are not very careful - better to learn the command line :-)
[23:07] <ubuntuNoob> i need to install ubuntu to my ex-windows hd
[23:07] <Dr_Willis> noquinho:  installing 32bit packages on a 64bit install can give that error.
[23:07] <sebsebseb> !usb |  ubuntuNoob
[23:07] <sebsebseb> !install | ubuntuNoob
[23:08] <Kevin1a> How do I install the win32 codecs for use in totem and vlc?
 i will ;] second day using linux
[23:08] <sebsebseb> !codecs |  Kevin1a
[23:08] <LinuX2half> Reseting terminal bash
[23:08] <Dr_Willis> Kevin1a:  they are included at the medibuntu repository. enable the repository. install the w32codecs package.
[23:08] <sebsebseb> LinuX2half:  reseting?
[23:08] <Dr_Willis> !medibuntu | Kevin1a
[23:08] <guntbert> Shinobi: time to start :-), open a teminal window
[23:09] <guntbert> *terminal
[23:09] <Shinobi> :x
[23:09] <Shinobi> k
[23:09] <Shinobi> open
[23:09] <LinuX2half> I want to modify my terminal title.
[23:09] <noquinho> how can i do to have a songbird in  my notebook ?
[23:09] <guntbert> !who | Shinobi
[23:09] <noquinho> amd turion 64 x2
 its open
[23:10] <guntbert> Shinobi: where are the files, how many are they and to where should they be copied?
[23:10] <onedeadubuntu> heh sebsebseb !  just a quick thanks.. you got me back to life!  it was a bad udev rule of all things... (blame windows... was trying to get a USB device working)
[23:10] <Kevin1a> Thanks, I try to  use free whenever I get my hands on it, but much of my old music and films are in other formats.  Thanks for the help.
[23:10] <LinuX2half> I can't seem to change my terminal bash title
[23:11] <sebsebseb> onedeadubuntu: ah ok no probs
 its a patch for a game, its 6 folders
[23:11] <onedeadubuntu> cheers.. happy ubuntuing everyone!
[23:11] <onedeadubuntu> bye
[23:11] <Dr_Willis> LinuX2half:   terminal applications can change it.. but its also changeable via the shell.. many programs change it to whatever they want.
[23:11] <ksc654> Anyone here familiar with getting linux to authenticate against ActiveDirectory using winbind?
[23:11] <mrwes> Is there a command line app like avimerge for mp4 files?
[23:11] <guntbert> Shinobi: doesn't really matter - so where are they?
[23:11] <Irving> What's up guys! Im going router hunting any suggestions?
[23:12] <Irving> Please no Netgear.
[23:12] <Dr_Willis> Irving:  check teh various review sites see what they suggest.. Most any of them do what most people want these days
[23:12] <guntbert> LinuX2half: Terminal/set Title...
[23:12] <sebsebseb> !ot |  Irving
[23:12] <Dr_Willis>  Irving  I like this fancy belkin i got. but the extetrnal-usb-drive feture dont work right on it.
[23:12] <ubuntuNoob> omg i'm becoming mad..
[23:13] <mc1> It's me again: http://paste.ubuntu.com/242687/
[23:13] <mrwes> Irving, Linksys with tomato firmware
[23:13] <Irving> Yeah...but i want one thats ubuntu compatible, thats why i came here. Cause mine really doesn't work with this...or wii's or zune's or iphone's.
[23:13] <ubuntuNoob> i got an ex windows hd
[23:13] <ubuntuNoob> i formatted it and now it contains a lost+found folder
[23:13] <Irving> And don't tell me it aint the router cause ive looked it up and spent a long time messing with the settings.
[23:13] <ubuntuNoob> how can i install ubuntu on that hd -__-
[23:13] <sebsebseb> Irving  Dr_Willis   should really talk about   what router he should buy in #ubuntu-offtopic or pm
[23:13] <guntbert> Shinobi: you can tell me where those folders are in nautilus
 the patch is at /home/Documents/UT2004-Patch the game folder is at  /usr/local/games/ut2004
[23:14] <mc1> sebsebseb: are u reading my paste?
[23:14] <LinuX2half> ubuntu2009@unbuntu2009-laptop:~$, is my current title and how do I change it ubuntu2009, deleting unbuntu2009?
[23:14] <lstarnes> !hostname | LinuX2half
[23:14] <mc1> Guntbert
[23:14] <Irving> Geezz man i just wanted a quick suggestion before i ship off to best buy, but whatever ill stick with linksys.
[23:15] <rssllcr> hello
[23:15] <rssllcr> I just have a question
[23:15] <danbhfive> LinuX2half: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=change+gnome+terminal+title
[23:15] <RobotCow> why doesn't this work? gnome-terminal --geometry=132x24 --title='Terminal (Wide)'
[23:15] <sebsebseb> !ask |  rssllcr
[23:15] <sebsebseb> !details |  rssllcr
[23:15] <rssllcr> thanks
[23:16] <lstarnes> RobotCow: what part of it doesn't work?
[23:16] <SmackTalk> anyone know how to troubleshoot tomcat?
[23:16] <guntbert> Shinobi: that first part looks a bit strange, please type ls /home/Documents - I expect an error
[23:16] <SmackTalk> how do I restart tomcat?
[23:17] <RobotCow> lstarnes, making the title of the gnome-terminal set
[23:17] <LinuX2half> how do I change my hostname? Going to Admin and networking?
[23:17] <Dr_Willis> RobotCow:  could be the  prompts/other programs are changing the title as soon as it starts. is it jus tthe title part thats not working?
[23:17] <Dr_Willis> !hostname | LinuX2half
[23:17] <lstarnes> RobotCow: that's because bash changes it
 ls: cannot access /home/Documents: No such file or directory
[23:18] <sebsebseb> !google |  danbhfive
[23:18] <acr0nym> the google-fu ? lol
[23:18] <noquinho> noquinho, uname -m and get a package suiting
[23:18] <sebsebseb> acr0nym: heh indeed :)
[23:18] <th0r> Dr_Willis: RobotCow I am using xfce, but have gnome installed. I notice that originally the window opens with the proper title, but then loses it and returns to the default
[23:18] <noquinho> what means package suiting ?
[23:19] <guntbert> Shinobi: thats what I expected - please type cd ~/Douments/UT2004-Patch (you can use <tab> completion to make it easier)
[23:19] <guntbert> *Documents
 the patch is at /home/eric/Documents/UT2004-Patch the game folder is at  /usr/local/games/ut2004
[23:19] <Shinobi> i forgot the username
[23:19] <Shinobi> :x
[23:19] <Dr_Willis> th0r:  the bash prompt by default I think changes that title to the current working directory/executed program. thats why.
[23:20] <lstarnes> RobotCow: there is a way to prevent programs running within the terminal from changing its title
[23:20] <th0r> RobotCow: you will be glad to know that command works fine with xfce4-terminal
[23:20] <mc1> Hello again!  I'm asking for help with Jaunty.  I was doing an update with Synaptic and I got an error message.  I've check some forums and it seems a lot of people are having the same problem too. this is the link with the error messages I get: http://paste.ubuntu.com/242687/
[23:20] <sebsebseb> mc1: Did you re boot after installing  a new kernel?
[23:20] <lstarnes> RobotCow: go to Edit > Current Profile
[23:20] <RobotCow> lstarnes, ok thx
[23:20] <Brando753> guys i screwed up my usb mount point :(
[23:20] <mc1> yeah, sebsebseb.  Everything i've been told.
[23:20] <lstarnes> RobotCow: under "Title and Command", look for the "Dynamicallt-set title" dropdown menu
[23:20] <rssllcr> I have ubuntu 9.04 and when I am in terminal i am trying to install a video graphics driver sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-185.18.31-pkg1.run when I try to install it it says permission denied so I would like to know when I am in the terminal what to I type to become the admin or it wont install I have trouble installing .bin files
[23:21] <sebsebseb> rssllcr: oh dear installing  nivida drivers directly from them, why?
[23:21] <Dr_Willis> rssllcr:  you did try the nvidia drivers in the repositoiries FIRST befor trying  the .bin installer version?
[23:21] <sebsebseb> rssllcr: get from the repo, or expect problems
[23:21] <rssllcr> what is repo again
[23:21] <guntbert> Shinobi: and now type sudo cp -R * /usr/local/games/ut2004 if you want to move them instead of copying type sudo mv * /usr/local/games/ut2004)
[23:21] <sebsebseb> !repo |  rssllcr
[23:21] <ubuntuNoob> please someone help, i'm running ubuntu from a usb stick and need to install it to my old empty hd
[23:22] <lstarnes> rssllcr: the package repositories
[23:22] <sebsebseb> ubuntuNoob: ok so you need    the equviliant of a Live CD on the USB stick I guess
[23:22] <sebsebseb> !usb |  ubuntuNoob
[23:22] <rssllcr> I am going to that web site now
[23:22] <ubuntuNoob> it's not that easy cause i'm running NOW from that usb :P
[23:22] <Dr_Willis> rssllcr:  check the  admin -> hardware drivers icon/tool.... it should auto-install those drivers for you
[23:22] <RobotCow> lstarnes, after creating the profile, this works, gnome-terminal --geometry=132x24 --window-with-profile='Terminal (Wide)'
[23:23] <moustafa> !DKMS package
[23:23] <ubuntuNoob> i installed ubuntu TO the usb to test it with my ha
[23:23] <ubuntuNoob> hardware
[23:23] <moustafa> !DKMS
[23:23] <dynavox> i've tried and failed at trying to play a WMV file on Totem and VLC. The apps open very briefly and quit immediately without an error. Any ideas?
[23:23] <__martin_> Hello! I have not had any luck with google. How can I change the load order of modules? Or at least delay the loading of one module over the other? I want bttv for my tunner card to load before the uvc module for my webcam
[23:23] <__martin_> I remember there being a delay pramater to some mouldes but I can not find it
[23:24] <ubuntuNoob> can i run an ubuntu installation from an ub
[23:24] <MK13> dynavox, install restricted codecs?
[23:24] <sebsebseb> ubuntuNoob: yes see what I got the bot to give you
[23:24] <RobotCow> ubuntuNoob, try copying the iso to the usb using dd
[23:24] <dynavox> MK13 yep.
[23:24] <skyl> 4514 root      20   0  212m  53m 1468 S    0 20.9  23:30.62 console-kit-dae
[23:25] <Dr_Willis> copy iso file to flash with dd? thats not going to work.
[23:25] <skyl> what is console-kit-dae and why is it using so much memory?
[23:25] <ubuntuNoob> i'm ON the usb and got only that working OS
[23:25] <lstarnes> skyl: that's likely console-kit-daemon
[23:25] <mechtech> pratik_narain: you here?
[23:25] <ubuntuNoob> how can i boot from usb to install if i got a running os on it?
[23:25] <rssllcr> once I get the driver installed I would like to use my DVI cable instead of a vga cable on my LCD monitor because I would like to connect this compurter to my HDTV so that I can watch videos on my HDTV instead of my computer monitor
[23:25] <skyl> lstarnes right, I guess I should look up
[23:26] <danbhfive> ubuntuNoob: there should be a shortcut on the desktop, and also, there should be an option in the startup menu
[23:26] <Dr_Willis> ubuntuNoob:  you want to install to the flash you are booting from?
[23:26] <Dr_Willis> ubuntuNoob:  or install to the hard drive? i do flash -> hard drive installs all the time. with the installer tool
[23:26] <ubuntuNoob> no, i already installed ON the flash, but i want to install to HD while i'm running from the USB
[23:26] <Zxcvb> if I hibernate with a sd card mounted in my internal sd reader, when I resume the sd reader won't work at all and the sd card is corrupted, any suggestions?
[23:26] <ubuntuNoob> (if it's possibile)
[23:26] <MK13> ubuntuNoob, how did you make the USB drive bootable?
[23:26] <nonZero_> Hi!  oops I delete apache2.conf from hardy
[23:27] <ubuntuNoob> syslinux or something like that
[23:27] <rincon> which pdf viewer is on the repos ?
[23:27] <Dr_Willis> Zxcvb:  thats a known bug/issue with a lot of machines.   check the forums for your exact machine and perhaps theres some kernel boot options to try ti work around it.
[23:27] <nonZero_> What's the fastest way to recover apache2.conf on hardy?
[23:27] <ubuntuNoob> i do it from win xp before formatting it :P
[23:27] <MK13> ubuntuNoob, then don't you have the option to install at boot time?
[23:27] <mc1> Can anybody help me with this? : http://paste.ubuntu.com/242702/
[23:27] <noquinho> ok guys!!! its impossible to install songbird in my linux. Please let me know another program to use my ipod and listen podcasts . No amarok please
[23:28] <th0r> __martin_: find the init script that calls the webcam module and list the bttv script as required start in the webcam script
[23:28] <ubuntuNoob> you mean using the same tool on the HD instead the flash?
[23:28] <Dr_Willis> noquinho:  i noticed the latest tar.gz songbird 64bit version here.. just 'hangs' when i try to start it.
[23:28] <ubuntuNoob> i tryed
[23:28] <stinky> I have a company FTP, and I was wondering if I could make one of my local folders automatically upload anything in a specific folder to the FTP? would be nice to have it so whenever a file has a change it auto-uploads to the FTP.
[23:28] <gnuisancev4> how would I change the download directory of a single torrent without changing what is  specified in the .rtorrent.rc ?
[23:29] <MK13> ubuntuNoob, i mean when you boot from the Flash there should be choices including installing
[23:29] <robertc1985> ok serious problem for me, how do i enable USB audio on hardy?
[23:29] <th0r> stinky: check rsync
[23:29] <sebsebseb> mc1: yeah  apt-get/synaptic is  quite good, untill   something happens and you can't install  programs just like that anymore.    even got  two guys elesewhere to have a look,  but hmm
[23:29] <ubuntuNoob> it just start ubuntu
[23:29] <Kevin1a> What can cause media players to close immediately after opening a video file? (totem, vlc, and even visualizations in rythembox)  I haved tried several different video files, including ones that worked in the past, and reinstalled w32codecs.
[23:29] <stinky> thanks th0r
[23:29] <danbhfive> mc1: it looks like the install is bad or something.  did this happen during an upgrade?
[23:30] <stercor> How does one use 'mutt' in Ubuntu?  Mutt needs to create files in /var/mail, but the common user doesn't have the permissions.  sudo mutt tries to make a /var/mail/root, which it not a good idea.
[23:30] <ubuntuNoob> i all but an expert.. but i installed ubuntu on the flash, so it's not an installation but an INSTALLED os
[23:30] <ubuntuNoob> or i'm wrong?
[23:30] <Dr_Willis> stinky:  theres the fuse-ftp tools that can allow you to mount a 'remote ftp site' as if it was a local directory.
[23:30] <danbhfive> stercor: maybe create a user folder first?  with permissions set?
[23:30] <Dr_Willis> stinky:  thats one way of doing it. sort of.
[23:30] <mc1> no.  i was trying to install what's required to do a RAM boot.  I had done several updates in the two weeks prior to the error.
[23:30] <stinky> cool thanks Dr_Willis  :)
[23:31] <rincon> what is the name of the pdf viewer that should be installed alongside with ubuntu ?
[23:31] <Dr_Willis> Kevin1a:  run the media player from a terminal. look for error messages.
[23:31] <aboSamoor> rincon, evince
[23:31] <MK13> ubuntuNoob, it probably hads the contents of the iso, with a casper file for persistence
[23:31] <stercor> danbhfive: I tried that...I think.  I'll try it again.
[23:31] <RobotCow> when is ubuntu going to have this? http://www.nsa.gov/research/selinux/index.shtml
[23:31] <ubuntuNoob> yep
[23:31] <robertc1985> ok serious problem for me, how do i enable USB audio on hardy? the on board card is damaged
[23:31] <Dr_Willis> !selinux
[23:31] <Dr_Willis> robertc1985:  it allready does..  :)
[23:31] <sebsebseb> mc1: what?
[23:32] <Dr_Willis> oopr..
[23:32] <RobotCow> available how?
[23:32] <robertc1985> when i play an mp3 i hear nothing
[23:32] <ubuntuNoob> so how can i make the usb ask me to install ubuntu again and let me select the hd?
[23:32] <Dr_Willis> RobotCow:  see the bots url it gave...
[23:32] <mechtech> nonZero: hope this helps: http://finalcog.com/undelete-open-file-from-inode
[23:32] <danbhfive> mc1: hmm, I don't know what a ram boot is.  This error happened while trying to get that working?  If you were following some directions, can you post a link?
[23:32] <Dr_Willis> RobotCow:  ive never used it.. dont want to - ive had to fight with seliunux befor...
[23:32] <rssllcr> This nvdia driver says it is not config to the x server I wonder how to change it?
[23:32] <sebsebseb> !details |  mc1
[23:33] <mechtech> partik_narain: you here?
[23:33] <MK13> ubuntuNoob, but when you boot from the usb it goes straight into Ubuntu w/out a prompt asking for run, install, etc?
[23:33] <Dr_Willis> rssllcr:  you did reboot after installing the nvidia driver?
[23:33] <ubuntuNoob> yes
[23:33] <rssllcr> yes
[23:33] <RobotCow> Dr_Willis, all i see is info about AppArmor
[23:33] <Dr_Willis> ubuntuNoob:  you can configure the nvidia stuff with the 'nvidia-settings' command. You need to run it with root permissions however. It may not ask for them  if yiou launch it via an icon
[23:33] <majnoon> how get pulseaudio on one computer to play on another ??
[23:33] <nonZero_> Oops, i deleted apache2.conf on Hrady... What's the fastest way to recover apache2.conf on hardy?
[23:33] <mc1> ok, guys.  Let me try to write the whole thing as best as i can and i will paste it.  see if you're still here...
[23:34] <Kevin1a> Dr_Willis: Ran VLC from terminal: http://pastebin.com/m6c03bec3
[23:34] <mechtech> nonZero: http://finalcog.com/undelete-open-file-from-inode
[23:34] <Ayla> hello !
[23:34] <Dr_Willis> RobotCow:  thats the selinux alterntive ubuntu uses.. and thats about all i know on the topic.
[23:34] <robertc1985> the device is in the usb port and the speaker is plugged into the other end where it should be, but i never hear anything
[23:34] <RobotCow> Dr_Willis, i know why SELinux is not included in ubuntu and it does appeal to the windows user switching to linux
[23:34] <Zxcvb> Dr_Willis: nothing on the forums, unfortunately
[23:34] <Pauluk1984> are there any drivers out there for usb wireless cards? ...
[23:34] <SmackTalk> how do I list/restart processes?
[23:34] <ubuntuNoob> ps?
[23:34] <danbhfive> ubuntuNoob: maybe you could use the your current session, download a copy of the iso, and reburn your usb stick with esb-creator
[23:34] <Ayla> how can you change the default OSD for the volume in Ubuntu ?
[23:34] <Ayla> I want the basic Gnome one
[23:35] <Dr_Willis> Kevin1a:  tell vlc touse a a different 'video output driver' - its trying the 'x11' one by default it seems thats crashing.
[23:35] <RobotCow> SmackTalk, kill the process and then run it again? only services are restarted
[23:35] <ubuntuNoob> i can clean the usb stick while i'm running on it the os??
[23:35] <MK13> ubuntuNoob, you could try making the USB again w/ unetbootin i know that preserves the install command
[23:35] <mralexandro> hi where can you find skydome pictures for compiz, i tried googling it
[23:35] <sebsebseb> mc1: that sounds good
[23:35] <ubuntuNoob> ah ok.
[23:35] <ubuntuNoob> let me try, thx a lot
[23:36] <HoldenC> Hello
[23:36] <RobotCow> mralexandro, compiz official website? any site that has ubuntu screenshots like gnome-looks.org
[23:36] <danbhfive> ubuntuNoob: well, I think you should, if you have enough ram...  Otherwise, it might not work.
[23:36] <MK13> ubuntuNoob, are you using a cd iso to create the usb or a usb image?
[23:36] <ubuntuNoob> mk13: iso image
[23:36] <rssllcr> I would like to know has anyone connected their linux compurter to a HDTV to view videos instead of your computer monitor
[23:36] <mc1> Thanks dudes.  I really don't know how you guys do it (to invest your time to help people).
[23:37] <Dr_Willis> rssllcr:  i have via the vga cable.. but not hdmi/dvi (yet)
[23:37] <MK13> ubuntuNoob, then unetbootin would be a good choice
[23:37] <danbhfive> nonZero_: maybe try reinstalling apache2.2-common
[23:37] <stercor> How do I 'twitter'?
[23:37] <bonez46> how could I figure out which httpd.conf or other such file my installation uses for apache2 ? Any ideas, on a system running 9.04 desktop
[23:37] <Ayla> nobody knows ?
[23:38] <ubuntuNoob> MK13: ok i'm trying.. if i disappear.. something is gone wrong :P
[23:38] <rssllcr> how do I clone the monitor
[23:38] <mralexandro> should a usb disk autodetect in ubuntu or do you have to mount it?
[23:38] <AceGusto> hello have anyone tried installing 3. party programs on to a synology nas server?
[23:38] <mechtech> Ayla: gnome IS the default desktop for jaunty
[23:38] <dynavox> MK13 the restricted repository is added to Synaptic under Settings > Repositories? Looks like what I added were the restriced device drivers. Are those the restricted packages you were referring to?
[23:39] <MK13> mralexandro, it should auto detect it
[23:39] <mralexandro> MK13: it dont:(
[23:39] <danbhfive> Ayla: right click > Add to Panel?
[23:39] <mralexandro> or wait
[23:39] <mralexandro> let me see
[23:39] <Ayla> mechtech: I know I know... I just want to change the notification for the volume
[23:39] <AceGusto> hello have anyone tried installing 3. party programs on to a synology nas server? can you pleace pm me
[23:39] <MK13> dynavox, no i am talking about the codecs
[23:39] <Dr_Willis> rssllcr:  if you are using nvidia cards. the nvidia-settings tool lets you set/clone/twinview/other settings.
[23:40] <dynavox> MK13, what should i search for in Synaptic, please?
[23:40] <MK13> dynavox, try searching the install/remove program w/ "gstreamer"
[23:40] <dynavox> MK13, ah, thanks!
[23:40] <rssllcr> but I don't know how to get into those settings
[23:40] <rssllcr> I know how to do it using windows
[23:40] <Ayla> I'm speaking about the little black box that appears when you change the volume
[23:40] <Kevin1a> Dr_Willis: tried with several different outputs, Open GL worked but was slow to the point of being unusable.  Would you venture a guess as to how I might have caused this problem?
[23:41] <ubuntuNoob> MC13: when i choos where to work t
[23:41] <danbhfive> dynavox: maybe ubuntu-restricted-extras
[23:41] <rssllcr> is there a settings tool I can download
[23:41] <ubuntuNoob> MC13: when i choose where to put the bootable thing, i can't see any hd
[23:41] <rssllcr> I can use the package manager
[23:41] <Dr_Willis> Kevin1a:  what video card? and you did install the proper 3rd party drviers for that card?
[23:42] <ubuntuNoob> MC13: i see a mounted 200.0 GB Media but in the available target i got only /
[23:42] <dynavox> danbhfive, thanks, I'll try that
[23:43] <fg56lx> I'm having a problem with sound. When ever I listen to any music (on any media player) or watch any video (even youtube) the sound starts to skip and jump around. What would cause this, and how could I fix it?
[23:43] <jonesy> hey guys n grils is there amp to change my desktop waller like every 5 mins  or radom
[23:43] <Dr_Willis> ubuntuNoob:  ive only used unetbootin to install to 'flash' media. not actual usb hard drives.. it may not do the installs to a hard drive as well as it does flash.
[23:43] <rincon> how do i add a shutdown button to menus?
[23:43] <rcmaehl> Crap!
[23:43] <MK13> ubuntuNoob, are you talking to mc1 or mk13 ?
[23:43] <jrib> jonesy: wallpaper-tray iirc
[23:43] <Dr_Willis> jonesy:  ive seen such appsin the repos.. or write a script to do it. :) that was a fun 'test' of my leet coding skills one night.
[23:43] <jonesy> cool thax jrib
[23:44] <ubuntuNoob> MK13: you, pardon! i'm trying to install to an hard disk, not usb!
[23:44] <jonesy> leet? lol
[23:44] <lakotajames> hey, guys.  I have a fairly nice joystick someone gave me.  Just, nothing to use it with.  What's a good use of it?
[23:44] <rcmaehl> uSbuntu is cool
[23:44] <Kevin1a> Dr_Willis: The computer in question is an eeepc 1000HEB.  I believe the graphics are Intel® Graphics Media Accelerator 950 and are integrated into the motherboard?
[23:44] <stinky> lakotajames,  try Zsnes or xmame
[23:44] <ubuntuNoob> Dr_Willis: i can choose USB or Hard Disk from unetbootin, so i think it's possible
[23:44] <rcmaehl> lakotajames, a paper wieght
[23:45] <mechtech> lakotajames: flight simulators are fun
[23:45] <Dr_Willis> ubuntuNoob:  i normally use unetbootin, and the ubuntu desktop.iso file and under windows. uave unetbootin install to the flash drive (or linux) then i can boot the flash drive and use the install tools to install from flash to the hard drive.
[23:45] <Dr_Willis> ubuntuNoob:  a Unetbootin install to a 'hard drive' will NOT be the same as  the ubuntu installer does.
[23:45] <lakotajames> mechtech:  that one flightgears thing runs waaaaayyyy to bad to beable to be used.
[23:45] <mechtech> lakotajames: also games like freespace (but that's windows)
[23:45] <ubuntuNoob> Dr_Willis: goooooooood so how can i install from the usb to the hard drive?
[23:45] <mechtech> lakotajames: there are others
[23:45] <Dr_Willis> ubuntuNoob:  last i looked at the unerbootin harddrive install 'features' it did not do a 'live cd' type install to the hard drive eitehr. it was some other odd kind of install.
[23:46] <Ayla> lakotajames: X-Plane
[23:46] <jonesy> jrib were can i find it after its installed
[23:46] <rcmaehl> I like windows
[23:46] <CRM> Hello. Im configuring Conky, and I wonder if there is a way to show the maximum CPU speed? Right now it only shows the full speed when the cpu is under heavy load. I guess its some kind of power saving feature, it's a laptop you see.
[23:46] <Dr_Willis> ubuntuNoob:  when i booted teh flash drive. there was an install icon on the desktop.  ive used dozens of times.
[23:46] <jrib> jonesy: no idea tbh.  If you're still stuck in 2 minutes, tell me and I'll check it out in
[23:46] <Dr_Willis> ubuntuNoob:  note i am using a actual 'flash drive' not a external usb hard drive.
[23:46] <ubuntuNoob> Dr_Willis: omg......
[23:47] <ubuntuNoob> Dr_Willis: i'm sure that it's just a shorcut to add/remove apps -___-
[23:47] <Dr_Willis> ubuntuNoob:  unetbootin does 'to hard drive' installs in some different way from what i recall from READING the unetbootin docs/homepage.
[23:47] <jonesy> i can never find stuff that gets installed stuopid should be a way of finding out
[23:47] <Kevin1a> Dr_Willis: Do you think it may be due to the fact that my virtual desktop is too large?  I could be overtaxing the machines graphics capabilities because I have a second monitor hooked up to it?  It's still strange though that it used to run video fine and then suddenly stopped.
[23:47] <Dr_Willis> ubuntuNoob:  err.. no its not.. Ive installed using that 'instaler' icon on at least 9 machines with this same flash drive.
[23:47] <MK13> ubuntuNoob, my suggustion was using unetbootin from windows...
[23:47] <jrib> jonesy: dpkg -L PACKAGE   tells you everything a package installed if you want hints.  My first guess would be to try Preferences menu
[23:47] <mbrigdan> I just found out that snort has apparently been sending alerts to root@mycomputer for quite sometime now, is there anyway that I can get it to send to a real email address?
[23:48] <noquinho> i just installed banshee !!! now do u know how to import all my musics to banshee ?
[23:48] <CRM> Hello. Im configuring Conky, and I wonder if there is a way to show the maximum CPU speed? Right now it only shows the full speed when the cpu is under heavy load. I guess its some kind of power saving feature, it's a laptop you see.
[23:48] <Dr_Willis> ubuntuNoob:  lets summarize.. You are using a 'flash' drive or a 'external usb hard drive'?
[23:48] <ubuntuNoob> Dr_Willis: i'm using a flash with ubuntu, i think that the install shorctus works perfectly.. i'm just a bit idiot
[23:49] <mechtech> Dr_Willis: what is the difference?  Really...I don't know
[23:49] <danbhfive> ubuntuNoob: I think you need to decide if you are going to install from an iso, and what media you are going to burn the iso to.  Since your usb is tied up, maybe from the harddrive?  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux
[23:49] <b0nn> hrm, where do I have a whinge about behaviour of konsole in Ubuntu NBR ?
[23:50] <b0nn> actually, all I want to say is &*^%$&^$&^$&%$&%$&$^&
[23:50] <MK13> ubuntuNoob, i thought you didn't have the shortcut, my bad
[23:50] <b0nn> it's horrible
[23:50] <Dr_Willis> mechtech:  flash drive = little thumbdrive  :)
[23:50] <Ergo^> !offline
[23:50] <ubuntuNoob> MK13: sorry.. my fault..
[23:50] <jonesy> jrib its an applet ive added to tha bar now cheers
[23:50] <MK13> ubuntuNoob, u got it going now?
[23:50] <jrib> jonesy: cool
[23:50] <b0nn> oh, my mistake it's not konsole, it's gnome-terminal
[23:51] <yfk> how can I incorporate a package into Ubuntu installed on USB (with the app that came with the distro)?
[23:51] <ubuntuNoob> MK13: yes i't working.. shame on me :P anyway i really love linux!
[23:51] <Dr_Willis> ubuntuNoob:  my normal method (from a single windows mach9ne) - get unetbootin for windows, get iso file, plug in a 'flash drive' not a exteranl usb hard drieve. use unetbootin tool to make a bootable flash drive.. reboot..  use the installer on the desktop.
[23:51] <MK13> ubuntuNoob, glad to hear it :D
[23:51] <Dr_Willis> unetbootin has some sort of 'frugal install' trick it does to 'hard drives'
[23:51] <teimu> hi ubuntu! what's your recommendation to back up my DVDs to disk (in mpeg)?
[23:51] <ubuntuNoob> Dr_Willis: yes i can make it work 2 hours ago if i notice that the install shortcut does the installation on the internal hard disc!
[23:52] <rincon> how do i add a shutdown and a restart button to the gnome system menu on ubuntu?
[23:52] <Dr_Willis> ubuntuNoob:  :)
[23:52] <MK13> Dr_Willis, have you tried the built int "create usb- startup disk" from inside ubuntu?
[23:52] <Dr_Willis> ubuntuNoob:  so the problem is.. there was no problem?
[23:52] <Dr_Willis> MK13:  i have.. it works.. but i find the scripts at pendrivelinux web site work better.
[23:52] <ubuntuNoob> Dr_Willis: the problem is that i started using linux tomorrow xD thx Dr.
[23:52] <Dr_Willis> MK13:  the peristant save feature works..   'almost properly' 80% of the time.
[23:53] <michael> does anyone know how to change the font color in nautilus. I'm talking about the file/folder name font colors under the icon.
[23:53] <Dr_Willis> ubuntuNoob:  make that flash drive and keep it handy. its  a good rescue tool :)
[23:53] <cap_eath> Ok, trying to install 9.04 on a AMD dual core w/ nVidia chipset.  I get the ACPI error.  Do I need a new computer. (It just came out of the box)
[23:53] <fg56lx> I'm having a problem with sound. When ever I listen to any music (on any media player) or watch any video (even youtube) the sound starts to skip and jump around. What would cause this, and how could I fix it?
[23:53] <MK13> Dr_Willis, ahh, the pendrivelinux scripts usually mess up the booting for me... and I never use persistence that much (except for with Kubuntu)
[23:53] <dynavox> wmv file is still quitting while opening. :\ I installed the restricted packages. anyone have any wisdom to lay on me (besides staying away from WMV files?)
[23:53] <ubuntuNoob> Dr_Willies: sure!
[23:54] <LinuxEA> Hi, I would like to add a few apps to default at startup. Im using openbox.. Tried using /etc/init.d/ but it didn't work the way I'd like
[23:54] <iceroot> dynavox: use vlc
[23:54] <mbrigdan> cap_eath: Try acpi=off as a kernel option, that might fix it
[23:54] <iceroot> !startup | LinuxEA
[23:54] <LinuxEA> I dont have gnome..
[23:54] <dynavox> iceroot, VLC quits as soon as it tries to play it.
[23:54] <mbrigdan> I just found out that snort has apparently been sending alerts to root@mycomputer for quite sometime now, is there anyway that I can get it to send to a real email address?
[23:55] <iceroot> LinuxEA: kde? xfce4?
[23:55] <LinuxEA> nope, only openbox
[23:55] <rincon> how do i add a shutdown and a restart button to the gnome system menu on ubuntu?
[23:55] <iceroot> LinuxEA: sorry, dont know openbox
[23:55] <Dr_Willis> MK13:  i set up a persistant pendrive for each machine i got (well one with nvidia drivers, and one with other drivers)   its the drivers that cause the issues with the peristant save stuff
[23:55] <macgyver_> are their any gphoto users here?
[23:55] <ubuntuNoob> Dr_Willis: i got a half-burned Sony Vaio with a non-working nvidia geforce, with windows it's unusable.. with ubuntu it works enough, more than 640x480 and without strange random pixels :P
[23:55] <iceroot> rincon: right click, add to panel, then choose the buttons
[23:55] <jrib> LinuxEA: http://icculus.org/openbox/index.php/Help:Autostart
[23:55] <teimu> has anyone done any DVD backups in ubuntu lately? i know of a few tools, but this was years ago.
[23:56] <jonesy> 20   0  295m  32m  15m R   97  1.1   0:36.73 wp_tra
[23:56] <jonesy> ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[23:56] <LinuxEA> jrib: Perfect ! thank you
[23:56] <jrib> teimu: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[23:56] <iceroot> teimu: without cpy-protection, k3b is working fine
[23:56] <MK13> Dr_Willis, that is the only thing i hated about the Kubuntu persistence, had to run nvidia-xconfig, then restart kde every boot :(
[23:56] <iceroot> teimu: never tried copy-protected video-dvds
[23:56] <lakotajames> Alright, my computer seems quite a bit slower than it used to be.  How do I go about figuring out what I did to it?
[23:57] <iceroot> lakotajames: look at top, what is using much ram/cpu
[23:57] <mdgrech> l
[23:57] <Dr_Willis> MK13:  i fixed that with a rc.local command to copy over the proper xorg.conf  befor it started X
[23:57] <MK13> Dr_Willis, :O i never thought of that
[23:58] <Dr_Willis> MK13:  i disabled kdm (gdm) and had them lauch via rc.local after i did the xorg.conf copy.
[23:58] <teimu> thanks iceroot! checking that out now. and well, okay jrib: how can i backup a dvd to mpeg format?
[23:58] <iceroot> lakotajames: if you dont know how to read that, post the output from "top -n 1" to pastebin and post the link here
[23:58] <mdgrech> anyone from detroit area here?
[23:58] <iceroot> !paste | lakotajames
[23:58] <jrib> teimu: ask *the channel*  exactly because I do backup dvds but not to mpeg
[23:59] <MK13> Dr_Willis, but i don't use KDE w/ ubuntu anymore, i save that for bsd and gnome for ubuntu... any chance to get a pastebin of all the steps you took so I can try it?
[23:59] <Dr_Willis> I tend to 'rip' dvd's with dvdrip :) but thats not exactly a 'backup'
[23:59]  * jrib uses dvdbackup
[23:59] <ubuntuNoob> Dr_Willis: what's the cleaner way to install vlc? it's not in the default apps, and i can't find it in the synaptic thing with universe repo
[23:59] <lakotajames> gnome-do and compiz.