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| davmor2 | shtylman: :) so hopefully tuesday then :) I'll let you know :) | 00:05 |
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| davmor2 | anyway bed | 00:06 |
| seele | shtylman: you changes the labels so they were first letter caps? | 00:06 |
| shtylman | seele: yep... | 00:06 |
| * seele hugs shtylman | 00:06 | |
| seele | awesome | 00:07 |
| shtylman | :) | 00:07 |
| Riddell | seele: seen the slideshow? | 00:10 |
| seele | Riddell: hmm.. "what slideshow", so no :) | 00:10 |
| shtylman | oh yea...we need a set of "kubuntu" related slides versus the "ubuntu" ones they currently have | 00:11 |
| seele | Riddell: http://doodle.com/ay88g3hw8cumiv2n | 00:13 |
| seele | nixternal: ^^\ | 00:13 |
| seele | shtylman: ^^ too | 00:13 |
| * seele looks to see who else hasnt responded | 00:13 | |
| seele | apachelogger: ^^^^^ | 00:14 |
| Dario_Andres | Does anyone know why they are KDE4.3 packages but ubuntu still provides qt4.5.0 (when qt4.5.2 has fixed a lot of bugs) ? | 00:19 |
| Dario_Andres | at bugs.kde.org we are getting several crash reports about qt4.5.0 related bugs... on (k)ubuntu and KDE4.3.x packages | 00:21 |
| Riddell | Dario_Andres: ubuntu doesn't generally do updates to whole new versions. if there are testable patches for known bugs those can be put in an update | 00:22 |
| Riddell | (kubuntu provides backports of new KDE versions but that's separate) | 00:22 |
| Dario_Andres | mmh.. I see.. | 00:23 |
| Dario_Andres | Riddell: and can't this backport repos which provide new KDE version provide this updated Qt packages too ? or it can't be done because it could affect another apps ? | 00:23 |
| Riddell | it could, but compiling and testing Qt is many hours work | 00:24 |
| === Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu Translations Love Day | Alpha-3 released | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | We need paperKuts! https://launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts | Meeting http://doodle.com/ay88g3hw8cumiv2n | ||
| Dario_Andres | yes, I know ... :-\ | 00:26 |
| Dario_Andres | err.. | 00:26 |
| Dario_Andres | do you know if someone else packages Qt4 out there ? some other ppa ? | 00:26 |
| a|wen | Dario_Andres: 4.5.1 is in the experimental ppa ... doesn't look like 4.5.2 is anywhere | 00:28 |
| Dario_Andres | a|wen: ok, thanks! thanks Riddell too :) | 00:29 |
| a|wen | could update that one ... most of the time is compile time, so can do other stuff in the meantime | 00:31 |
| JontheEchidna | we should just upload 4.5.2 to the 4.3 repo | 00:32 |
| JontheEchidna | hmm, but eventually when we move the packages over to official backports... | 00:33 |
| JontheEchidna | I think Qt 4.5.2 would be ready for jaunty-backports. There aren't any know regressions and it does have a lot of bugfixes | 00:34 |
| JontheEchidna | I could do the work if this is generally agreed upon | 00:35 |
| a|wen | JontheEchidna: agreed ... but testing it out in the PPA would be a good idea then | 00:35 |
| a|wen | JontheEchidna: add it to the meeting agenda? | 00:35 |
| JontheEchidna | I most probably won't be able to attend | 00:35 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: but you can't take the karmic packaging, that has the phonon changes | 00:36 |
| JontheEchidna | Riddell: Qt 4.5.1 is in kubuntu-experimental. It'd probably just require a tarball change, and maybe sync the qtcopy patches | 00:37 |
| JontheEchidna | but all the backport work is done | 00:38 |
| Dario_Andres | a little sidenote before leaving | 00:40 |
| Dario_Andres | qt-copy on svn is not being updated anymore | 00:40 |
| Dario_Andres | KDE is now using kde-qt.git on gitorius | 00:40 |
| Dario_Andres | so may be you need to change the way of fetching the qt-copy patches.. (may be it is documented somewhere) | 00:40 |
| JontheEchidna | oh, that's good to know. I hadn't heard about that | 00:41 |
| shtylman | http://paste.ubuntu.com/242825/ | 00:42 |
| shtylman | that crashes on exit | 00:42 |
| shtylman | straight up segfault...no python messages | 00:42 |
| shtylman | minimal test case I can produce | 00:42 |
| Dario_Andres | JontheEchidna: http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/qt-copy/README.qt-copy?revision=987575&view=markup , http://qt.gitorious.org/+kde-developers/qt/kde-qt/blobs/4.5.2-patched/README.kde-qt | 00:43 |
| Riddell | Sime_: ^^ | 00:46 |
| mcasadevall | evening all | 00:57 |
| Riddell | shtylman: it's something to do with pyKDE needing a KMainWindow | 00:57 |
| Riddell | it's a longstanding bug | 00:58 |
| * mcasadevall just had a castrophic HDD failure | 00:58 | |
| Riddell | evening mcasadevall | 00:58 |
| Riddell | :( | 00:58 |
| mcasadevall | Riddell: have you come to Ireland yet? | 00:58 |
| Riddell | mcasadevall: no, not until late tomorrow | 00:58 |
| mcasadevall | Riddell: can you burn a Kubuntu/amd64 alternate CD, and bring it with you? | 00:58 |
| mcasadevall | so I can reinstall? | 00:58 |
| * mcasadevall has an Kubuntu/i386 liveCD which I'm running off of right now | 00:58 | |
| mcasadevall | Its forunate I brought spare SATA HDD drives, and a spare laptop just incase this sorta thing might happen | 00:59 |
| Riddell | mcasadevall: karmic alpha 3? | 00:59 |
| mcasadevall | Riddell: jaunty is perferable actually | 01:00 |
| mcasadevall | (I have a jaunty 9.04 server cd I could use though ..) | 01:00 |
| * mcasadevall thinks | 01:00 | |
| shtylman | Riddell: interesting... | 01:01 |
| shtylman | rather unfortunate... | 01:01 |
| mcasadevall | Needless to say, I'm pissed | 01:01 |
| a|wen | JontheEchidna: one huge qt-copy patch? looks like that is the easiest way to do it without it taking hours to get them | 01:02 |
| JontheEchidna | eh, it's only missing a few. shouldn't be too hard to even just copy them over from karmic's packagde | 01:03 |
| Riddell | shtylman: you can use pyqt fine | 01:04 |
| a|wen | JontheEchidna: oh, true ... but in the future it looks to be the only way | 01:05 |
| JontheEchidna | yeah :( | 01:06 |
| shtylman | Riddell: well...yes... indeed I can... but when using kde specific things i need pyKDE :) | 01:09 |
| * shtylman finally made progress with the KCategorizedView | 01:10 | |
| Riddell | shtylman: poke _Sime :) | 01:10 |
| shtylman | hehe | 01:10 |
| Riddell | mcasadevall: jaunty alternate amd64 CD is in my laptop CD drive | 01:11 |
| mcasadevall | Riddell: I love you :-) | 01:12 |
| mcasadevall | I'm not sure if this is an HDD failure or something else, but I feel now is a good time to backup | 01:12 |
| shtylman | so... KIcon is failing for me... | 02:13 |
| shtylman | do I need to initialize something before I use it? | 02:13 |
| shtylman | besides KApplication... | 02:13 |
| shtylman | http://paste.ubuntu.com/243011/ | 02:14 |
| shtylman | that does NOT load the printer icon | 02:14 |
| shtylman | if I change it to a QIcon and specify an icon in my local directories it works... | 02:14 |
| shtylman | what gives?? :) | 02:14 |
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| seele | ScottK: ping | 02:37 |
| JontheEchidna | shtylman: QVariant needs a pixmap or something returned, KIcon("printer").pixmap(64,64) works | 02:39 |
| JontheEchidna | KIconLoader would probably be better, so you don't have to hardcode the pixmap size | 02:39 |
| JontheEchidna | oh, nevermind | 02:40 |
| JontheEchidna | yeah, might have to use KIconLoader, un-nevermind | 02:40 |
| JontheEchidna | :P | 02:41 |
| shtylman | JontheEchidna: really? I looked at other sample code from SystemSettings and it puts a KIcon right into QVariant... | 02:43 |
| JontheEchidna | just my guess actually | 02:43 |
| shtylman | but indeed... the .pixmap(64,64) worked | 02:43 |
| shtylman | thanks :) | 02:43 |
| JontheEchidna | yw | 02:44 |
| * JontheEchidna wonders how hard it would be to use a K class in a Qt project using the qmake build system | 02:44 | |
| shtylman | why would would someone do such a thing!? | 02:45 |
| shtylman | cmake is just...so ... wonderful... | 02:45 |
| JontheEchidna | giving icons to arora was the plan | 02:45 |
| JontheEchidna | it's just so... bare | 02:45 |
| shtylman | I think it would be easier to convert them to cmake... | 02:45 |
| shtylman | heh | 02:46 |
| * shtylman wonders why qt doesn't just adopt cmake... | 02:46 | |
| JontheEchidna | dunno, cmake seems a natural fit to me | 02:46 |
| JontheEchidna | maybe it has something to do with their translation setup | 02:47 |
| shtylman | indeed | 02:47 |
| shtylman | well | 02:47 |
| shtylman | I mean...they could add the cmake support | 02:47 |
| shtylman | I can't imagine it would be that bad | 02:47 |
| shtylman | cmake is just so much more powerful | 02:47 |
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| JontheEchidna | the standard icons that Qt has to choose from is somewhat... lacking: http://doc.trolltech.com/4.5/qstyle.html#StandardPixmap-enum | 03:01 |
| JontheEchidna | in theory we could get oxygen icons out of all of those, but the selection is limited | 03:01 |
| shtylman | hmm.. | 03:03 |
| shtylman | so..internalPointer() on a QModelIndex ... appears to .. not work... | 03:03 |
| shtylman | causes a segfauly in python | 03:03 |
| shtylman | *segfault... | 03:03 |
| shtylman | how the hell am I supposed to get my internal data out!! :) | 03:06 |
| shtylman | it has been locked away...in a sacred place...:( | 03:07 |
| JontheEchidna | canHazInternalDatazPlox() | 03:07 |
| JontheEchidna | ^returns a QLolCat | 03:07 |
| shtylman | ... wow... | 03:08 |
| shtylman | I am lost for words... | 03:08 |
| shtylman | oh man! : "Fatal Python error: deletion of interned string failed" | 03:08 |
| shtylman | I don't even know what that means... | 03:08 |
| JontheEchidna | http://mintyferret.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/lolcat7.gif | 03:09 |
| shtylman | ... thank you | 03:09 |
| JontheEchidna | ok, I'm done | 03:10 |
| shtylman | heh | 03:11 |
| JontheEchidna | the good news is that I have found a way to get more icons in the menus that I'll be able to submit to arora (since it follows the pattern that they are using for the toolbar buttons) | 03:15 |
| JontheEchidna | now I'll compile and hope that I see oxygen icons | 03:15 |
| JontheEchidna | the bad news is that we're still limited in what icons we can use :( | 03:16 |
| shtylman | :/ ... well...some is better than nothing... | 03:20 |
| shtylman | I cannot for the life of me figure out how to store and retrieve my own data in each model index | 03:28 |
| shtylman | everything I have tried has failed... :( | 03:28 |
| shtylman | JontheEchidna: http://paste.ubuntu.com/243096/ | 03:32 |
| shtylman | what the dickens!! | 03:32 |
| shtylman | that should totally work!! right?? | 03:32 |
| JontheEchidna | I've never even attempted model/view :( | 03:33 |
| shtylman | oh... | 03:33 |
| JontheEchidna | I've not had a need yet, plus it looks scary | 03:33 |
| shtylman | dude...its scary stuff | 03:33 |
| shtylman | a web of doom if you will | 03:33 |
| shtylman | it is scary... | 03:33 |
| shtylman | the problem is that is is very very generic | 03:34 |
| shtylman | and thus you have to basically build from the lowest level up and that can get tricky | 03:34 |
| shtylman | I have done it in c++ ... but I have no idea why this python stuff doesn't work ... | 03:34 |
| shtylman | who know.. :/ | 03:34 |
| JontheEchidna | oh what I would give to get KIcon working in arora... | 04:39 |
| JontheEchidna | it'd probably be easier to just port it to kde | 04:39 |
| JontheEchidna | looks like rekonq is planning another release in two weeks | 04:43 |
| rgreening | hmm.. flash doesn't seem to be working with youtube anymore under kubuntu (konq or arora) | 06:26 |
| Mamarok | why is kdesudo an optional package? It is mandatory for sudo rights in a gui, like systemsettings or such | 08:27 |
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| * a|wen is running kde4.2.4 and qt4.5.2 on jaunty ... looks to run fine | 10:44 | |
| a|wen | what was the regressions we had with 4.2.4 ... could be fun seeing if any of them has vanished with the new qt | 10:45 |
| a|wen | JontheEchidna: I've uploaded qt4.5.2 for jaunty to the experimental PPA ... now we just need to find out if we want it in any of the others | 11:05 |
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| apachelogger | a|wen: ping | 12:25 |
| a|wen | apachelogger: pong | 12:25 |
| apachelogger | a|wen: got time to revu a package? | 12:25 |
| a|wen | apachelogger: sure, just give me a link | 12:26 |
| apachelogger | a|wen: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/kontrolpack | 12:27 |
| a|wen | i'll take a look | 12:28 |
| apachelogger | kthx :) | 12:28 |
| a|wen | apachelogger: can haz watch file? :) | 12:37 |
| apachelogger | a|wen: doesn't work | 12:37 |
| apachelogger | for some reason it fails to find the tar | 12:37 |
| apachelogger | though upstream did weird things that since I had him fix some stuff | 12:37 |
| apachelogger | anyway, simply put: b0rked right now, ought to follow soonish :) | 12:38 |
| * apachelogger is wondering why launchpad can't resize pics to fit the mugshot requirements | 12:38 | |
| apachelogger | I mean, that is pretty simple graphics editing, even with python one should be able to do this in like 3 lines of code :P | 12:39 |
| a|wen | apachelogger: do they have tar.gz files? ... i can only find zip source archives from upstream | 12:46 |
| a|wen | apachelogger: found it ... http://sf.net/kontrolpack/KontrolPack-(.+)_Linux-2\.6\.tar\.gz ? | 12:49 |
| apachelogger | a|wen: more likely it is a prebuilt binary | 12:51 |
| apachelogger | http://downloads.sourceforge.net/kontrolpack/KontrolPack-2.0.2.tar.gz | 12:51 |
| apachelogger | that is the URL I got | 12:51 |
| apachelogger | but as mentioned uscan fails to find that | 12:51 |
| apachelogger | maybe it is hidden or something | 12:51 |
| a|wen | apachelogger: it is located in a subfolder, thats why it fails ... http://sf.net/kontrolpack/kontrolpack_src/KontrolPack-(.+)-src/KontrolPack-(.+)\.tar\.gz | 13:10 |
| a|wen | apachelogger: apart from the watch-file it looks good ... lintian wants a man-page; but dunno how much point there is in that, binary doesn't even accept "--help" | 13:23 |
| JontheEchidna | a|wen: The Qt 4.5.1 regression we had with KDE 4.2 was that RSSNow was totally busted. Should be fixed in KDE 4.3 | 13:36 |
| JontheEchidna | which is why if that's still an issue, we should only push 4.5.2 to jaunty-backports right before we upload 4.3 to jaunty-backports | 13:37 |
| apachelogger | a|wen: no manpage :P | 13:39 |
| apachelogger | will add watchfile though | 13:39 |
| a|wen | JontheEchidna: how busted? | 13:41 |
| a|wen | or busted how? | 13:41 |
| JontheEchidna | a|wen: everything was invisible inside the appelt | 13:42 |
| JontheEchidna | *applet | 13:42 |
| a|wen | i see ... still an issue in qt 4.5.2 + kde 4.2.4 | 13:43 |
| a|wen | i should upgrade to 4.3.0 soonish and test | 13:45 |
| apachelogger | hm | 13:46 |
| * apachelogger thinks that kontrolpacks desktop file is kinda flawed | 13:46 | |
| apachelogger | functionallitywise | 13:46 |
| a|wen | apachelogger: are you sure you install the desktop file? | 13:47 |
| apachelogger | nope | 13:47 |
| apachelogger | my todo sez I don't because it is flawed | 13:48 |
| apachelogger | I'll use su-to-root for the time being and get upstream to provide one file for kde and one for gnome | 13:48 |
| apachelogger | or get su-to-root out of the menu package | 13:48 |
| apachelogger | that is really a PITA | 13:48 |
| a|wen | patch it to something that at least works... | 13:50 |
| apachelogger | well, I need to patch for su-to-root anyway | 13:51 |
| apachelogger | but since the package ought to provide desktop files for both kdesu and gksu I'd also need to do build magic in order to divert a gnome desktop file from the main one | 13:51 |
| a|wen | we surely needs a common interface for that | 13:52 |
| apachelogger | su-to-root would be that | 13:52 |
| apachelogger | AFAIK it can use about any rootingtool out there | 13:53 |
| apachelogger | that includes both those for CLI and GUI | 13:53 |
| a|wen | but does it currently work? | 13:53 |
| apachelogger | aye | 13:53 |
| apachelogger | su-to-root -X -c systemsettings | 13:54 |
| a|wen | then i'd use that one | 13:54 |
| apachelogger | a|wen: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/kontrolpack | 13:54 |
| apachelogger | well, it is in menu | 13:55 |
| a|wen | hmm... network plasmoid seems kinda broken in karmic :/ | 13:55 |
| apachelogger | and menu does a lot more than su-to-root (it's not even in the default seeds) | 13:55 |
| * apachelogger goes swimming | 13:57 | |
| shadeslayer | anyone here who can give me some advice on some compilation errors i get in ktorrent? | 14:41 |
| shadeslayer | http://pastebin.com/m10f496e3 | 14:43 |
| shadeslayer | im probably missing some dev packages.... | 14:44 |
| shadeslayer | never mind... :P | 14:49 |
| a|wen | apachelogger: the .png file is installed with executable bit set (+x) | 14:51 |
| apachelogger | a|wen: is that a problem? | 15:07 |
| a|wen | apachelogger: eh... it shouldn't be executable | 15:08 |
| apachelogger | a|wen: yeah, but is it a problem :P | 15:08 |
| a|wen | isn't it an easy fix :P | 15:09 |
| apachelogger | nope | 15:09 |
| apachelogger | dh_install can't do that | 15:09 |
| apachelogger | I'd rather have upstream fix that in the tarball as a whole, since every file in the tar is +x :P | 15:09 |
| apachelogger | he didn't fix that complaint in his last retaring | 15:09 |
| a|wen | i agree on getting upstream to fix it! | 15:10 |
| OdyX | apachelogger: or do a repack yourself (and add ~ubuntu or whatever before -1) | 15:19 |
| apachelogger | also an option | 15:19 |
| OdyX | apachelogger: can be faster... | 15:21 |
| a|wen | apachelogger: add this to end of debian/rules | 16:01 |
| a|wen | binary-install/kontrolpack:: | 16:01 |
| a|wen | chmod -x $(CURDIR)/debian/kontrolpack/usr/share/pixmaps/kontrolpack.png | 16:01 |
| apachelogger | k | 16:03 |
| * apachelogger wants note that this will be deprecate in the next version though | 16:04 | |
| * apachelogger keeps those launchpad mugshots changing | 16:07 | |
| apachelogger | hm | 16:09 |
| apachelogger | I am wondering | 16:09 |
| apachelogger | a|wen: why is the desktop file not +x? | 16:09 |
| a|wen | apachelogger: dh_fixperms removes +x from .desktop files and README (and some other categories) | 16:12 |
| apachelogger | why not images? | 16:13 |
| a|wen | good question ... it only fixes permissions on files in some pre-defined locations where it can be sure of the state it seems | 16:14 |
| apachelogger | a image filer never needs to be executable | 16:14 |
| apachelogger | bug IMHO | 16:14 |
| a|wen | would make sense to have it look in /usr/share/pixmaps+icons as well | 16:16 |
| apachelogger | a|wen: uploaded | 16:21 |
| JontheEchidna | new strigi out | 16:30 |
| * JontheEchidna updates packages | 16:31 | |
| * apachelogger thinks he pissed off svn.debian with too many wrong passwords :S | 16:31 | |
| OdyX | apachelogger: fail2ban certainly... svn.debian.org pissed you off :-) | 16:32 |
| apachelogger | not like I would care :P | 16:32 |
| a|wen | apachelogger: advocate added | 16:44 |
| apachelogger | a|wen: thx | 16:44 |
| ghostcube | :) hi | 17:29 |
| * a|wen waves to ghostcube | 17:29 | |
| ghostcube | :) | 17:29 |
| ghostcube | i installed bespin | 17:30 |
| ghostcube | hehe nice thing | 17:30 |
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| maco | er guys....how do you get arora to use plugins? i installed swfdec and swfdec-mozilla and restarted arora, but it doesnt auto-detect the plugin | 19:47 |
| JontheEchidna | I guess you're hitting bug 407384 | 20:03 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 407384 in arora "flashplugin (swfdec or gnash) on arora" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/407384 | 20:03 |
| maco | when i first said that, apt had error'd out. now its definitely installed, and it shows a lego instead of playing the video | 20:04 |
| maco | mhmmm thatd be it | 20:04 |
| maco | doesnt work in konq either though | 20:04 |
| JontheEchidna | ooh, new webkitkde commits... | 20:13 |
| * a|wen wonders what his best shot is in karmic of connecting to encrypted wireless... | 20:52 | |
| ScottK | seele: Pong | 20:56 |
| * ScottK notes I have a teenager doing facebook usability testing with arora on a netbook. She has no idea it's research. She's just thrilled to get to facebook. | 21:00 | |
| a|wen | cool :) | 21:00 |
| * Quintasan is back | 21:00 | |
| * a|wen is testing out KNE on his eee | 21:02 | |
| a|wen | looks good :) apart from network connectivity | 21:03 |
| vorian | is that new? | 21:03 |
| ScottK | That's pretty much known to be crap at this point. | 21:03 |
| vorian | kne | 21:03 |
| ScottK | vorian: Kubuntu Netbook Edition | 21:03 |
| vorian | haa | 21:03 |
| * vorian is quite slow | 21:04 | |
| a|wen | need to use it next week ... so have to find some minimal working connectivity or i have to reinstall :( | 21:04 |
| ScottK | How's the move preps going? | 21:04 |
| ScottK | a|wen: What king of connectivity do you need? | 21:04 |
| ScottK | king/kind | 21:04 |
| a|wen | ScottK: wireless wpa | 21:05 |
| ScottK | a|wen: I've been using ifup/ifdown for now. | 21:05 |
| a|wen | then it is bad ... not even knetworkmanager work anymore | 21:06 |
| ScottK | It's easy enough to set up. | 21:09 |
| ScottK | I didn't try knetworkmanager, but I'm not suprised as NetworkManager changed some password handling stuff. | 21:09 |
| ScottK | a|wen: Did you try the PPA versions up for testing? | 21:09 |
| a|wen | looked at the test-page for the PPA version ... and they couldn't make it work | 21:11 |
| a|wen | but karmic is blazing fast at booting! | 21:13 |
| vorian | except when it's not | 21:14 |
| ScottK | Of course. | 21:14 |
| ScottK | My netbook is booting with KMS now though. | 21:14 |
| a|wen | boots fine here ... and with ext4 on the root-drive it is pretty fast | 21:15 |
| a|wen | uh, the network-plasmoid from jaunty-updates works ... except that there is no visual feedback on connecting | 21:18 |
| neversfelde | a|wen: here too, I am using it with apt-pinning for a while now | 21:18 |
| a|wen | looks like we were lucky with that update :P | 21:19 |
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| * shtylman can't wait for his always innovating touch book to arrive!! | 21:55 | |
| a|wen | shtylman: exciting ... do you have a link to a device like that | 22:06 |
| shtylman | a|wen: http://alwaysinnovating.com/home/index.htm | 22:07 |
| a|wen | uhh ... me want :) | 22:08 |
| ScottK | +1 for arora on facebook. | 22:12 |
| * JontheEchidna was quite surprised when he found out that QtWebKit doesn't render the <s> tag (filed a bug against QtWebKit @ webkit.org) | 22:14 | |
| jussi01 | Ive had my eye on that device for sometime | 22:15 |
| * a|wen has never heard about the <s> tag | 22:15 | |
| * shtylman was not aware you could abbreviate the <strike> tag like that... cool | 22:16 | |
| a|wen | ahh | 22:16 |
| JontheEchidna | bugzilla uses it to strike through links of resolved bugs, quite handy | 22:16 |
| JontheEchidna | but both <s> and <strike> are broken in arora, rekonq, et al :( | 22:17 |
| a|wen | oh ... that is big thing missing | 22:19 |
| shtylman | http://www.osnews.com/story/21935/GNOME_To_Drop_Icons_in_Buttons_Menus | 22:22 |
| shtylman | am I the only one that find that hilarious? | 22:22 |
| shtylman | *finds | 22:22 |
| JontheEchidna | heh | 22:28 |
| * JontheEchidna is quite happy with the results of his afternoon tweaking: http://imagebin.ca/view/SMaROCHo.html | 22:41 | |
| JontheEchidna | Crystal window decoration, QtCurve w/ Aqua presets, Blue Altra Dot wallpaper, and the default Kubuntu color scheme | 22:43 |
| jussi01 | Im sorry, I still think thats gross... but default ones always seem to be. problem is, that one seems very kde3. | 22:46 |
| JontheEchidna | I'd be happier if the gradient on the windeco wasn't so harsh | 23:01 |
| JontheEchidna | kde svn 1006042 | 23:04 |
| ubottu | http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/?rev=1006042&view=rev | svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk -r 1006042 | Read/write all OpenVPN settings I could find, not just the ones needed for my local VPN. Please test! If there is a problem, ... | 23:04 |
| JontheEchidna | ^Would be good for VPN testing, seems to be a major commit | 23:05 |
| maco | i'm with jussi01 | 23:46 |
| maco | that theme makes me glad my window manager doesn't have window decorations. all i'm sayin' | 23:47 |
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