[00:56] <lamalex> hey, can I cancel a VCS import?
[00:57] <wgrant> lamalex: You can request that an admin suspend or remove it.
[00:57] <wgrant> https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-code
[00:58] <lamalex> wgrant: is that where I make the request?
[00:58] <wgrant> lamalex: Yes.
[00:59] <lamalex> thanks :)
[01:57] <vorian> my @kubuntu.org alias is not working (added on 24 July).  How long does it take these days?
[01:58] <vorian> ~steve.stalcup
[02:18] <wgrant> vorian: #canonical-sysadmin is better.
[02:19] <pablo> hi, if i create an account do nothing and delete it, why does it detects i am activating it again?
[02:19] <wgrant> pablo: You didn't delete your account; you deactivated it.
[02:19] <vorian> thanks wgrant
[02:20] <wgrant> vorian: Working week is better too.
[02:20] <pablo> wgrant: which is the diference?
[02:20] <pablo> cant it be deleted?
[02:21] <wgrant> pablo: Accounts cannot be deleted, because there are other objects referencing them.
[02:21] <vorian> alright
[02:21] <wgrant> pablo: When deactivated, pretty much no information about the account is revealed.
[02:22] <pablo> wgrant: but if i did nothing, what is refering to it?
[02:23] <pablo> wgrant: can another user take the username i left?
[02:24] <wgrant> pablo: There would probably still be something referring to it. But even if there isn't, accounts are not deleted.
[02:25] <pablo> wgrant: ...
[02:25] <wgrant> pablo: It seems that your account is renamed when you deactivate your account, to free up the namespace.
[02:27] <wgrant> pablo: Bug #407189 is about hiding the name of deactivated accounts.
[02:27] <pablo> wgrant: ok, and waht does stays if i did nothing, only the mail and the renamed user?
[02:27] <wgrant> pablo: I believe so, but I couldn't be sure. Why?
[02:29] <pablo> wgrant: lol, just wondering why isnt it removed
[02:29] <wgrant> pablo: Probably because only in very very very few cases would it be possible.
[02:50] <pablo> wgrant: cant you delete it xD
[02:51] <wgrant> pablo: I'm just a hopefully well-informed user. I have no more access than you do.
[03:33] <pablo> wgrant: ok thanks
[06:38] <lamalex> man, requesting launchpad admins to do stuff to your branches is such an epic fail..
[06:47] <micahg> lamalex: I can't imagine how many requests they get vs amount of people
[06:50] <lamalex> micahg: are you thinking it's quite high?
[06:50] <lamalex> I'm not criticizing the admins, I'm criticizing the system
[06:51] <lamalex> the requests to admin ratio is what makes it such a fail
[06:51] <lamalex> oh man though, I just realized lp is now open source
[06:51] <lamalex> and if I want I can fix this
[06:51] <micahg>  indeed
[06:51] <micahg> exactly :)
[06:53] <lamalex> anyway- before I do that are any admins around to delete a vcs import? https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-code/+question/78862
[06:53] <lamalex> I would like to push this branch and resurrect this dead project
[07:18] <lamalex> any admins around? eh?
[07:19] <beuno> lamalex, let me see if I can help
[07:20] <lamalex> beuno: I need to delete a vcs import
[07:20] <beuno> lamalex, looking at the question
[07:21] <beuno> lamalex, I need you to delete this series: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/tangerine/trunk
[07:23] <wgrant> beuno: Why not rather just unlink the branch?
[07:23] <wgrant> Deleting the series is overkill.
[07:23] <beuno> yes
[07:23] <beuno> unlinking is better
[07:23] <beuno> :)
[07:24] <beuno> lamalex, if you unlink it, I'll delete it
[07:24] <lamalex> also i cant delete that series because its development focus and the only series available
[07:25] <beuno> lamalex, just unlink it
[07:25] <lamalex> done
[07:26] <beuno> lamalex, done
[07:26] <lamalex> merci :)
[07:26] <beuno> de rien
[09:11] <maxb> Are there any tricks to using "bzr lp-open"? It seems to just complain that "bzr: ERROR: . is not registered on Launchpad." for me unless I give it an explicit branch URL, even though I'm running it inside a launchpad branch directory
[09:14] <wgrant> maxb: From a little bit of trial and error, it seems to use the push branch.
[09:15] <maxb> Hmm. Odd that it doesn't consider the parent
[09:16]  * maxb enqueues another "I need to find time to write a patch for ..."
[09:16] <wgrant> It would be more reasonable to use the bound location than the parent.
[09:16] <wgrant> The parent probably isn't right.
[09:36] <maxb> No?
[09:36] <maxb> I'm thinking of the lp-sourcedeps branches, for example - parent makes sense there
[09:37] <maxb> Unrelated: Does launchpad notify someone when you subscribe them to a bug, or do you then need to post a comment to the bug which will go to them?
[09:38] <wgrant> maxb: Isn't parent going to be the branch that I branched from, which is not right?
[12:11] <LarstiQ> maxb, wgrant: I'm pretty sure it opens the public location?
[12:12] <maxb> perhaps. Unfortunately the public location tends not to be set for ad-hoc local branches
[12:13] <maxb> If public and push are not defined, it makes sense to use parent, I think.
[12:13] <maxb> I guess I could just do a noop "bzr push :parent" everywhere first
[12:16] <spiv> Perhaps bzr should allow you to use aliases (such as :parent) in locations.conf?  So then you could have [/] public_location=:parent, if you really want that default behaviour.
[12:16] <spiv> (I certainly don't want that, but a minority of users do keep asking for it)
[12:19] <LarstiQ> spiv: I would really like having those aliases (and lp:) work in more places, like in --stacked-on=
[12:20] <spiv> LarstiQ: yeah, in random parameters would be great.
[12:21] <spiv> LarstiQ: perhaps we should have Option(..., type=branch_location) or something in addition to type=unicode, etc?
[12:21] <spiv> LarstiQ: Anyway, file bugs :)
[12:22] <spiv> Or patches, I don't mind ;)
[12:23] <LarstiQ> spiv: my queue of outstanding patches is full at the moment, but I'll file a bug ;P
[12:24] <spiv> LarstiQ: :)
[12:55] <fta> https://edge.launchpad.net/builders/papaya "Started 3 days, 1 hour, 34 minutes, 14.3 seconds  ago" ??? it's stuck dling the debs..
[12:57] <Hobbsee> that looks...broken
[13:00] <wgrant> Hobbsee: You have privileges to cancel it, don't you? :P
[13:01] <Hobbsee> no ;)
[13:16] <fta> please don't kill the history, like last time someone killed one of my builds
[13:17] <LarstiQ> history?
[13:37] <maxb> cprov: Stuck builds on papaya and gold, can you help?
[13:38] <maxb> and osmium
[13:38] <maxb> and iridium
[13:38] <maxb> and seaborgium
[14:26] <cprov> maxb: yes, I'm looking at it
[15:05] <cprov> maxb: fta, I will let the stuck builders around, we need to debug what's going on.
[15:06] <cprov> I've filed bug #408001
[15:07] <fta> cprov, ok, no problem with me. i just reported it so someone could investigate, so it's all fine ;)
[15:08] <cprov> fta: last time I've reset your gmpc job on osmium, in hope it was only a net-hiccup.
[15:08] <fta> cprov, gmpc is not mine, (yet it's using my bot)
[15:09] <cprov> fta: oh, didn't know. Everyone is using your bot these days :)
[15:10] <fta> cprov, lol, probably not everyone ;)
[15:10] <cprov> yay! someone is building the released emacs23 in the PPA domain
[15:11]  * cprov enjoys watching buildd.tv on Sundays ...
[15:22] <LarstiQ> :)
[15:25] <fta> would be nice to have the build time in lp/builders/
[15:25] <fta> and also ppa names as links
[15:25] <maxb> fta: can I download your bit somewhere?
[15:26] <maxb> *bot
[15:26] <fta> maxb, sure, in my +junk/
[15:26] <maxb> thanks
[15:26] <fta> before you ask, no, it's not in python :P
[15:27] <maxb> heh, has my language preference become that well known?
[15:27] <fta> well, i guess it's the preferred language in this channel
[15:40]  * LarstiQ makes a note to read through ppa-scripts
[15:47] <cprov> fta: yes, good idea, I will mention it in https://dev.launchpad.net/SoyuzBuildersIndexPage
[15:48] <cprov> fta and maxb: btw, can you guys take a look at https://dev.launchpad.net/SoyuzBuildIndexPage ?  I will send the RFC email later this afternoon.
[15:50] <fta> cprov, hm.. all sentences end with "...", is that expected?
[15:51] <cprov> fta: on the 'builders' page, yes, we haven't started yet
[15:51] <cprov> fta: the *build* pages has some mockups already
[15:51] <maxb> dispatch is not an obvious term for less soyuz-steeped users
[15:52] <cprov> maxb: yes, we could simply use 'start'
[15:52] <maxb> Also, is there any reason not to allow uploaders to cancel their own builds?
[15:54] <cprov> maxb: no, we can do that once we have 'cancel' implemented.
[15:55]  * cprov dashes for lunch
[16:01] <fta> cprov-afk, lgtm (SoyuzBuildIndexPage)
[18:52] <fta> i would love to have a way to track src & deb size and build time over time in lp
[20:52] <mrooney> Is there a way to change the description of a download for a project?
[21:27] <mrooney> mwhudson: do you know if it is possible to change the description of a download for a project? Would filing a question on LP be appropriate for having an admin do it?
[21:28] <mwhudson> i thought that was possible
[21:28] <mwhudson> mrooney: do you know why all the compiz shadows are solid black this morning?
[21:29] <mrooney> I'm running on Jaunty ATM so, nope :)
[21:29] <mwhudson> so am i!
[21:29] <mrooney> oh, interesting.
[21:30] <mrooney> for https://launchpad.net/wxbanker/0.5/0.5 if I want to change the second download to say "wxBanker 0.5.0.0 source release" instead of "wxBanker-0.5.0.0 Release", I don't see a way to do that
[21:30] <mrooney> or say add a signature
[21:30] <mrooney> let me try updating and see if my shadows die
[21:31] <mwhudson> i'm on intel gfx, so i should probably just upgrade to karmic
[21:31] <mwhudson> mrooney: what do you get at https://edge.launchpad.net/wxbanker/0.5/0.5/+edit ?
[21:31] <mwhudson> (i get forbidden)
[21:32] <mrooney> that gives me the release details, editing the release date, note, and changelog
[21:32] <mwhudson> oh i see
[21:34] <mwhudson> so basically, to answer your first question, "no i don't know" :)
[21:34] <mrooney> haha okay thanks, I'll ask a question on LP
[21:34] <mrooney> I assume at worst case it is a trivial query on the db?
[21:34] <LarstiQ> mwhudson: do you know why setting a download url for a project doesn't seem to have any effect?
[21:35] <LarstiQ> oh hmm
[21:35] <mwhudson> LarstiQ: i don't even know what you mean by download url
[21:35] <LarstiQ> mwhudson: nope, it does work :)
[21:35] <LarstiQ> mwhudson: 'External downloads' on launchpad.net/bzr-svn
[21:36] <mwhudson> oh right
[21:36] <mwhudson> it's a url pattern that gets scanned every so often, right?
[21:36] <LarstiQ> no, that's a different feature
[21:36] <LarstiQ> mwhudson: bzr-svn's canonical downloads are on samba.org, not launchpad. That's where this is for
[21:37] <LarstiQ> mwhudson: afaiui, url patterns would auto import into series
[21:38] <mwhudson> oh right
[22:04] <thumper> morning
[22:14] <mrooney> thumper: morning!
[22:14] <thumper> mrooney: hi