[08:29] <kklimonda> should we include upstream changelogs/NEWS files in package's changelog and commit message?
[08:30] <kklimonda> and what if there were two upstream releases in the meantime?
[08:49] <kklimonda> for packages that are maintainer in ubuntu-desktop bzr branches should I subscribe ubuntu-{universe/main}-sponsors as usual or ubuntu-desktop team?
[08:49] <kklimonda> maintained*
[15:16] <pitti> Hello all
[15:16] <pitti> chrisccoulson: I'm much better again, thanks :) greetings from Dublin
[15:17] <pitti> didrocks: hey, how are you; yes, I'm quite alright again, just some remaining sore throat
[15:17] <chrisccoulson> hi pitti! how's dublin? are you drinking the guiness yet?
[15:18] <pitti> chrisccoulson: haven't seen much yet, just had a quick snack
[15:18] <pitti> chrisccoulson: nah, I better abstain alcohol for the next few days yet :)
[15:19] <chrisccoulson> might be a good idea!
[15:21] <pitti> chrisccoulson: we'll have a Guiness brewery tour on Thursday, I won't miss that :)
[15:21] <chrisccoulson> yeah, i can imagine that would be fun ;)
[15:23] <chrisccoulson> no more gnome-applets hal dependency \o/
[15:23] <pitti> yay Chris!
[15:24] <pitti> chrisccoulson: re g-applets again, I just replied, but in summary: with your current level of involvement it should be fine for you to "just do it", and see if anyone complains :)
[15:24] <chrisccoulson> pitti - yeah, i can disable both then. there's still time to see if users complain about it anyway ;)
[15:25] <pitti> X.org migration is currently being discussed on the devkit ML, but I doubt it'll make karmic
[15:25] <pitti> other than that, the main thing on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Halsectomy is music players
[15:25] <pitti> we got pretty far in karmic \o/
[15:26] <chrisccoulson> yeah, that's quite good. i think the biggest remaining one is Xorg now
[15:27] <pitti> well, and Solid of course, but I didn't really count that yet
[15:27] <chrisccoulson> i take it that rhythmbox depends on "identify media players and capabilities" doesn't it?
[15:28] <pitti> right
[15:28] <chrisccoulson> is anyone working on that?
[15:28] <pitti> I convered the hal-fdi stuff into udev rules and "*.mpi" files, but this actually needs to get used by RB
[15:28] <pitti> Christophe was, but I don't know the current status
[15:29]  * pitti asks
[15:33] <pitti> chrisccoulson: I'll let you know when he replies (seems AFK right now)
[15:33] <chrisccoulson> pitti - thanks.
[15:33] <pitti> chrisccoulson: hah, just saw your mugshot, nice!
[15:34] <pitti> "Put the metal to the pedal to the other metal!"
[15:35] <chrisccoulson> lol! i like futurama ;)
[15:36] <pitti> I love it
[15:36] <chrisccoulson> yeah, i can sit watching it for hours!
[15:36] <pitti> I never became warm with Simpsons, but Futurama is gorgeous
[15:36]  * pitti has all episodes on disk
[15:37] <chrisccoulson> right, i've got to go and do some painting now before my girlfriend returns from her shopping trip, else she'll think i've spent all day on om my computer
[15:37] <pitti> chrisccoulson: and of course you did! :-)
[15:37] <chrisccoulson> yeah, most of the day;)
[15:37] <pitti> chrisccoulson: anyway, don't mess with SWMBO, cu later!
[15:38] <chrisccoulson> haha, thanks. enjoy your stay in dublin:)
[15:56] <didrocks> pitti: I'm fine too, thanks. Happy that's getting better for you :)
[16:13] <chrisccoulson> yessss! painting finished!
[16:23] <pitti> chrisccoulson: that was quick
[16:23] <chrisccoulson> pitti - yeah, i only had some wood to paint. and just in time too - she just arrived back home ;)
[16:24] <pitti> chrisccoulson: so how come you can _still_ be at the computer? :-)
[16:24] <pitti> shouldn't she show you all the new fancy dresses and shoes?
[16:24] <chrisccoulson> i'll have to go down and make a drink soon ;)
[17:11] <pitti> chrisccoulson: FYI: teuf| pitti: I think moch had a basic patch, but as far as I know, it's not online
[17:11] <pitti> chrisccoulson: so, we shouldn't hold our breath
[17:17] <fta> chrisccoulson, the disk free bug is related to 32bit overflows. (5059301376-2^32)/1024/1024 = 729M, which is what the pop reports
[23:37] <kklimonda> who should I subscribe to update bugs for packages that are maintained in ubuntu-desktop bzr branches for sponsoring?
[23:38] <kklimonda> universe-sponsors, ubuntu-desktop or both?
[23:38] <kklimonda> (universe/main)