[02:06] <directhex> james_w for DD!
[05:36] <billybigrigger> dtchen, ping
[05:36] <billybigrigger> or anyone
[05:36] <billybigrigger> since karmic, how come there is no way to change the audio output device?
[05:36] <billybigrigger> sound preferences nor pavucontrol can change the actual output device, just the volume and input device
[11:27] <dupondje> New versions of debian packages are still getting synced into Karmic ?
[11:28] <ojwb> not automatically
[11:28] <maxb> dupondje: We are past DebianImportFreeze, syncs now happen only on a case by case basis when manually approved
[11:29] <dupondje> oh ok, is there a way to request a sync ?
[11:30] <directhex> yes. with requestsync!
[11:31] <maxb> dupondje: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SyncRequestProcess tells all
[11:39] <dupondje> the 'requestsync' programm doesn't work ? it keeps waiting after Do you want to edit the report before sending [y/N]? Press Control-C to abort.
[11:42] <dupondje> ok :) stupid ISP blocks port 25 :(
[11:43] <dupondje> Sync request mailed.
[11:45] <dupondje> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dutch/+bug/407951
[11:45] <dupondje> there it is ;)
[12:14] <maxb> dupondje: requestsync --lp uses the LP http api to file the request - I like it
[12:14] <maxb> You do have to set up the oauth credentials separately first, but i think it tells you how
[12:21] <iulian> Yes, it's documented in the manual page (see man manage-credentials).
[12:26] <dupondje> maxb: ok thx, anyway it worked with using my own mailserver ;)
[13:50] <shtylman> when will the new kernel upload (-5.24) be in the repos?
[14:07] <t3rm1n4l> may i know where is the hostname stored
[14:07] <t3rm1n4l> ?
[14:13] <shtylman> etc/hostname
[14:59] <Abd4llA> hi there, any idea what's the difference between /lib/libc.so and /lib/tls/cmov/libc.so ?
[14:59] <Abd4llA> /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so
[15:15] <pitti> apachelogger: devkit-disks does allow that, but it's not the place to configure the default moutn options (this needs to be fed by GNOME or other UI)
[15:15] <pitti> apw: devkit-disks --mount has a --mount-options switch
[15:16] <pitti> apw: unfortunately there is no counterpart for the old gnome "volume" properties (by design, as I learned from David)
[15:38] <maxb> Abd4llA: The ones in deeper directories are ones compiled with certain optimizations requiring a kernel/cpu which supports certain features
[15:53] <Abd4llA> maxb: thnx alot
[16:30] <Edico> hi
[16:31] <TheMuso> ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[16:31] <TheMuso> ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[16:31] <TheMuso> ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[16:32] <Edico> here looks like jaunty has mit-scheme http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/devel/ but when I search it with synaptic is not there
[16:32] <TheMuso> Ng: /x
[16:33] <Edico> I included universe repos
[16:33] <Edico> and mit-scheme is not in my x86_64 ubuntu
[16:34] <StevenK> mit-scheme is a *source* package name, not a binary package name
[16:35] <TheMuso> oops
[16:35] <TheMuso> the jos of long tarveling
[16:35] <StevenK> Oh, no, it is.
[16:35] <StevenK> mit-scheme is i386 only
[16:50] <Edico> StevenK, so mit-scheme is not included for ubuntu x86_64?
[16:51] <markg85> Hi, i have a question about ubuntu packages.. What i want to do is build a package from source (nautilus) and use the configure line from the official ubuntu nautilus package. But the problem is that i can't find that configure line (not in the .asc file) so.. where is that hidden?
[16:53] <ojwb> debian/rules
[16:53] <StevenK> Edico: Right, it is only built for i386
[16:55] <markg85> ojwb, that can't be everything: http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/pkg-gnome/desktop/unstable/nautilus/debian/rules
[16:55] <StevenK> markg85: Looks fine to me
[16:55] <markg85> ojwb, StevenK , like: what is the --prefix? what is the --bindir?
[16:56] <ojwb> whatever cdbs defaults them to
[16:56]  * ojwb knows little about cdbs, sorry
[16:56]  * markg85 knows nothing about cdbs :P
[16:57] <markg85> in prm and archlinux this is all just visible in the spec and PKGBUILD file....
[16:57] <markg85> prm... rpm
[18:23] <stgraber> hmm, the powerpc build is broken ?
[19:37] <dtchen> billybigrigger: unlikely pong
[19:37] <billybigrigger> why unlikely? :P
[19:38] <dtchen> billybigrigger: i always check idle time first
[19:38] <billybigrigger> :P
[19:39] <dtchen> shtylman: after it's binary-NEWed, i.e., within a day
[19:39] <billybigrigger> so quick question, is there a better app to be using than pavucontrol, or the dumbed down 'Sound Preferences' to change audio output device?
[19:39] <dtchen> shtylman: if you're really itching to grab the debs, see the upload queue for /karmic
[19:40] <dtchen> billybigrigger: unfortunately, on
[19:40] <dtchen> no*
[19:40] <billybigrigger> there is no way to change output device?
[19:40] <dtchen> meaning: nothing better than pavucontrol at the moment
[19:40] <billybigrigger> pavucontrol won't even let you change output, only input device is changeable
[19:40] <billybigrigger> ahh atm :P
[19:41] <dtchen> err, pavucontrol _should_. are you using the context menu (or dropdown menu) in the Playback tab?
[19:41] <dtchen> (it's per-stream)
[19:42] <billybigrigger> i must have been really tired last night haha
[19:42] <billybigrigger> and hung over
[19:43] <billybigrigger> i was trying to help someone in +1 and now that i look you can change output
[19:43] <billybigrigger> in the configuration tab aswell as per stream
[19:43] <billybigrigger> in the Internal Audio Profile
[19:43] <dtchen> right.
[19:43] <billybigrigger> my bad, sorry for the useless ping
[19:43] <dtchen> np
[19:44] <billybigrigger> looking closer, Sound Preferences is the same thing
[19:44] <billybigrigger> 1 more question, why doesn't Sound Preferences = pavucontrol
[19:45] <maco> is pavucontrol or padevchooser the thing that's goin away?
[19:45] <dtchen> sound prefs has a couple bugs that are known. it has a subset of pavucontrol's functionality due to the latter being a bit complex and unintuitive UI-wise
[19:45] <dtchen> maco: both are deprecated in some sense
[19:46] <maco> you said you have a fix for the squeak when the sound powers down on this laptop right?
[19:46] <dtchen> it was linked in my post to ubuntu-devel{,-discuss}
[19:46] <maco> kk
[19:46] <dtchen> it's an older kernel; i'll need to refresh my schroot and rebuild against current ubuntu-karmic.git
[21:05] <johanbr> Does anyone feel any responsibility for abiword? 2.8.0 will be released soon. It'd be nice to have this version in Karmic (current is 2.6.8).
[21:16] <ScottK> johanbr: It's used by xubuntu, so whatever their development channel is would likely be your best bet.
[21:16] <ScottK> cody-somerville: ^^
[21:38] <johanbr> ScottK: Ahh, right. Thank you.
[21:41] <MaxPower9> #join #ubuntu
[21:42] <MaxPower9> sorry
[22:46] <picklesworth> before I try upgrading it, does anyone here happen to know /why/ the Imagemagick package in Ubuntu and Debian is quite out of date?
[23:03] <dupondje> picklesworth: old ? 6.5.1.0 isn't that old ?
[23:04] <picklesworth> well, it's /kind of/ old for impatient people like me :)
[23:04] <dupondje> make an own package then ?
[23:04] <dupondje> in a ppa ?
[23:04] <dupondje> can't be that hard :)
[23:05] <picklesworth> Doing so right now!
[23:06] <picklesworth> It's my first time upgrading a package, actually. Looked crazy convoluted originally, but now I see it's quite straight-forward :)
[23:13] <RAOF> picklesworth: You might want to check what Debian's doing; I noticed an imagemagik transition notice on debian-devel@.
[23:13] <picklesworth> okay, thanks RAOF :)