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| mrooney | lifeless: oh okay, I can't get a diff to generate but, I'll try to find one, I know there is a youtube video I think | 00:06 |
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| mrooney | maybe I need to copy it to an orig.tar.gz first | 00:06 |
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| stochastic | Does anyone have a free minute to REVU either http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/a2jmidid or http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/xwax or http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/xjadeo | 03:05 |
| stochastic | oh and http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/slv2 | 03:16 |
| kamalnandan | Hi Guys... | 04:22 |
| kamalnandan | I am learning basic ubuntu packaging and also went thru the basic guide..but this guide makes me download some already existing "tar.gz" using "apt-get source"...and doing this creates some dsc file as well.. | 04:25 |
| kamalnandan | I was able to create a basic pkg using that.. | 04:25 |
| kamalnandan | but I want to do packaging from scratch..say, I have my own "hello world" program, in a file called "hello.cpp", and a makefile that compiles that.. | 04:27 |
| kamalnandan | so how should I go about it? | 04:27 |
| kamalnandan | BTW...Gurus..I followed the example given on this page..:"https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Basic" | 04:29 |
| kamalnandan | no response guys?? | 04:41 |
| kklimonda | kamalnandan: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Complete#Packaging%20from%20Scratch | 04:43 |
| kamalnandan | kklimonda: thanks for reply..i have gone through this guide...but let me go thru this once again..probably I have missed something.. | 04:48 |
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| kamalnandan | a bit off topic..but...whats the difference between a configure.in file and configure.ac file? | 05:30 |
| kamalnandan | ok..found it, configure.ac is the new name for configure.in | 05:35 |
| kamalnandan | am writing a configure.in script for the first time for a helloworld program.. | 06:24 |
| kamalnandan | i.e. hello.c | 06:25 |
| kamalnandan | when i do "autoconf" i get the following error: | 06:25 |
| kamalnandan | configure.in:2: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE | 06:26 |
| kamalnandan | what does it mean? | 06:26 |
| kamalnandan | or is there some other channel where i nust put this question? | 06:27 |
| jmarsden | kamalnandan: This is a build system question not a packaging question. See http://mij.oltrelinux.com/devel/autoconf-automake/ for one tutorial, and http://sources.redhat.com/autobook/autobook/autobook_toc.html for a book all about these tools. | 06:29 |
| jmarsden | Your error probably means you forgot to put an AC_INIT macro invocation near the start of the file ? | 06:30 |
| kamalnandan | jmarsden: sorry to put this question here..but I have to do packaging..and got to know that it will require configure script too...so learning to write configure script..and thats why this question.. | 06:32 |
| kamalnandan | BTW, I have put AC_INIT macro at the start.. | 06:32 |
| jmarsden | kamalnandan: No, packaging does not require a configu8re script, just some way to build the software. | 06:32 |
| jmarsden | Any way the original software author chooses that works is fine. | 06:33 |
| kamalnandan | infact i was going thru the following steps where it mentions that we must have a configure script too.. | 06:35 |
| kamalnandan | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=51003 | 06:35 |
| kamalnandan | though i agree..even a makefile would do..since configure script is just used to generate a makefile.. | 06:35 |
| kamalnandan | however, i believe i must not get distracted and try to learn too many things at a time.:-)..so now I am not going to get into configure script writing and concentrate on packaging only...:-)..its more important to complete the given task at hand..infact, they are already using some cmake utility and have written a file that for cmake that probably works similar to configure.. | 06:39 |
| jmarsden | The forum post you linked to is not at official guide, it just uses an example project that has a configure file. I do not see it saying "you must have a configure script" anywhere in that forum thread. You will be better off using the official documentation instead. | 06:39 |
| jmarsden | Yes, cmake should work fine. | 06:39 |
| jmarsden | Use whatever the software developers use when they build the software. | 06:40 |
| kamalnandan | ok..thanks jmarsden..infact, i got distracated and started getting into configure which I was not required to..:-).. | 06:40 |
| kamalnandan | thanks for your help .. | 06:41 |
| jmarsden | No problem. | 06:41 |
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| ppzico | Hi, I have a question about packaging. I have a single project having 2 different executables. Another is made with C and the other with Python. Those executables communicate through TCP/IP on localhost. | 07:41 |
| ppzico | How should I package them? | 07:41 |
| ppzico | Maybe as multi binary or should I consider having those executables different projects? | 07:41 |
| ppzico | Just want to know which is the best approach and giving the least hairloss for me.. | 07:42 |
| hyperair | ppzico: you should only split a package if there is something that's very large if unsplit -- i.e. dependency chain, or package size. | 07:45 |
| hyperair | ppzico: otherwise, don't split it | 07:45 |
| kamalnandan | if I dont have to use a configure script in my package and have to simply use a makefile what should i remove from the rules file? | 07:47 |
| kamalnandan | here is the link to the rules script that I am using.. | 07:48 |
| kamalnandan | http://paste.ubuntu.com/243401/ | 07:48 |
| ppzico | hyperair: Do you mean now splitting the project or the binary? | 07:49 |
| hyperair | binary. | 07:50 |
| ppzico | hmm, then I might need help how to package a project with both C and Python, since I have found it complicated | 07:51 |
| ppzico | Could try to think a bit more myself first though, if that is the right approach | 07:51 |
| ppzico | Is the dh_make still usable for this or should I do packaging the hard way without any autotools? | 07:53 |
| hyperair | ? | 08:11 |
| hyperair | dh_make is usable for all cases | 08:12 |
| hyperair | you just have to customize the debian/* files | 08:12 |
| hyperair | and remove some template files | 08:12 |
| ppzico | alright, thanks :) That's good to know that I don't go soloing with some worse techniques | 08:15 |
| maxb | Do we have a canned reply for "We usually only update packages in the development release. SRUs and backports blah blah blah.... " ? | 09:30 |
| mrooney | I thought so, did you look in stock responses? | 09:31 |
| maxb | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Responses ? I don't see anything quite applicable. | 09:34 |
| mrooney | maxb: hm maybe not, I'd certainly link to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates though | 09:40 |
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| kamalnandan | why is it so that when i build a package using "debuild -us -uc", the binary also gets installed? | 14:35 |
| kamalnandan | i dont want to get it installed, i just want to create the package i.e. .deb file | 14:35 |
| kamalnandan | i want to get it installed only when i do "dpkg -i <package i.e. .deb file>" | 14:35 |
| kamalnandan | experts, any idea? | 14:36 |
| Hobbsee | er, the binary shouldn't be getting installed? | 14:41 |
| Hobbsee | are you running a hook or something? | 14:41 |
| kamalnandan | while doing "debuild -us -uc", i just want the *.deb file to be created and not to be installed.. | 14:53 |
| kamalnandan | it must be installed only when i do "dpkg -i <*.deb>" | 14:53 |
| kamalnandan | folks..any idea about this? | 14:53 |
| iulian | kamalnandan: Hobbsee already answered. | 14:57 |
| iulian | 1441.37 <@Hobbsee> er, the binary shouldn't be getting installed? | 14:57 |
| iulian | 1441.42 <@Hobbsee> are you running a hook or something? | 14:57 |
| Abd4llA | hi there, any idea what's the difference between /lib/libc.so and /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so ? | 15:00 |
| kamalnandan | iulian: infact, I had got disconnected for a while..perhaps Hobbsee answered within that time..sorry.. | 15:02 |
| kamalnandan | thanks @Hobbsee for your reply...:-) | 15:03 |
| Hobbsee | kamalnandan: long ping timeout, with 4 mins ;) | 15:03 |
| Hobbsee | and you're welcome | 15:03 |
| kamalnandan | can you plz reply once again.. | 15:03 |
| kamalnandan | yes..thare was some problem... | 15:04 |
| kamalnandan | because of which network got disconnected.. | 15:04 |
| kamalnandan | @Hobbsee, can you plz copy and paste your last answer...thanks..and also sorry, if i am getting impatient...:) | 15:08 |
| Hobbsee | kamalnandan: it's what iulian pasted? | 15:09 |
| kamalnandan | oh..sorry..i thought it was for someone else.. | 15:10 |
| maxb | kamalnandan: debuild does _not_ install what it builds. You *must* have something additional on your system which is doing it | 15:10 |
| kamalnandan | well..but the binary is getting installed..what could be the problem.. | 15:10 |
| Hobbsee | pebkac, most likely. | 15:11 |
| Hobbsee | of one form or another | 15:11 |
| kamalnandan | i have "install" target in my makefile.. | 15:11 |
| kamalnandan | would that be doing this.. | 15:11 |
| kamalnandan | and moreover the deb file doesnt contain the binary.. | 15:11 |
| kamalnandan | I have pasted the contents of my rules script here.. | 15:16 |
| kamalnandan | http://paste.ubuntu.com/243950/ | 15:16 |
| kamalnandan | and this is the makefile | 15:16 |
| kamalnandan | http://paste.ubuntu.com/243951/ | 15:17 |
| kamalnandan | it would be great, if someone takes a look...thanks..:-) | 15:18 |
| kamalnandan | i also tried removing the "install" target from my makefile...but in that case "debuild -us -uc" fails.. | 15:21 |
| kamalnandan | however, here is the output of "debuild -us -uc", after removing "install" target from my makefile.. | 15:22 |
| kamalnandan | no response guys??? | 15:28 |
| debfx | is revu only for universe packages (but not multiverse)? | 15:28 |
| pochu | debfx: multiverse is fine too AFAIK | 15:28 |
| debfx | pochu: ah ok, the wiki only mentions universe | 15:32 |
| maxb | 'main' and 'universe' are sometimes meant in ways which include their less-free counterparts - e.g. there's no separate sponsors teams for restricted and multiverse | 15:34 |
| maxb | kamalnandan: erm... | 15:35 |
| maxb | install: | 15:35 |
| maxb | cp ${TARGET} /usr/local/bin/ | 15:35 |
| maxb | The problem should be obvious | 15:35 |
| kamalnandan | maxb: thanks for your response...:-).. | 15:36 |
| kamalnandan | but when i remove the install targe, i get this error | 15:37 |
| kamalnandan | http://paste.ubuntu.com/243958/ | 15:37 |
| kamalnandan | moreover, even if install target is there in the makefile, one doesnt expect the binary to be installed while building.. | 15:38 |
| kamalnandan | it must be installed only when one installs it using something like "dpkg -i <*.deb>" | 15:38 |
| kamalnandan | maxb: am i right? | 15:39 |
| maxb | One expects commands to do what you tell them to do. You told cp to put the binary in /usr/local/bin/, so that's what it did | 15:39 |
| maxb | You really shouldn't run builds as root, by the way, for exactly this sort of reason | 15:40 |
| kamalnandan | but, the install target has to be executed while installing the package..isnt it? and not when I am building the package.. | 15:41 |
| kamalnandan | maxb: sorry..I am new to packaging.. | 15:41 |
| maxb | kamalnandan: Your rules file includes the DESTDIR variable in the "make install" command. This is not a feature of make, it is a convention for how people write makefiles. Your install target does not pay attention to the DESTDIR variable. | 15:42 |
| mzz | how do I get sbuild to produce a .ddeb file (or at least I think that'd be preferable for debugging this)? Alternatively: how do I get it to not strip binaries? | 15:45 |
| kamalnandan | maxb: thanks..perhaps I am getting it now..let me try fixing that.. | 15:46 |
| kamalnandan | maxb: BTW, why doesnt the deb file contain the binary? | 15:46 |
| maxb | Because your install target malfunctioned and put it into the system root, rather than the package staging directory | 15:47 |
| kamalnandan | oh..ok..so install target should be copying the binary in the $DESTDIR directory...am i right? | 15:48 |
| kamalnandan | sorry..am a novice in packaging..thats why asking so many questions.. | 15:49 |
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| kamalnandan | maxb: now i can see that the binary gets included in the .deb file..thanks for you help.. | 15:58 |
| kamalnandan | and when I do dpkg -i <deb file>..then it gets installed too.. | 15:58 |
| kamalnandan | but I am wondering where the binary got installed..i mean in which directory.. | 15:59 |
| kamalnandan | ok..it got installed in the "/" folder..which i think is not a good idea..i will need to install somewhwere else.. | 16:01 |
| kamalnandan | but getting it now.. | 16:01 |
| kamalnandan | what is the best location to install a binary? /usr/local/bin or /usr/bin? | 16:05 |
| geser | for a package: /usr/bin, /usr/local is out of package space, it's for local installations | 16:06 |
| kamalnandan | geser: thanks for response...:-).. | 16:07 |
| kamalnandan | so, i need to create this dir /usr/bin inside debain folder ...right(when I am making a package)?? | 16:07 |
| geser | yes | 16:16 |
| StevenK | kamalnandan: man dh_installdirs | 16:18 |
| kamalnandan | geser: thanks | 16:26 |
| kamalnandan | StevenK: OK..let me have a look in the man page.. | 16:27 |
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| douwei | I am having trouble with compiz and the animation add-ins....it is installed and I can go to preferences and they look to be checked but they are not working | 18:30 |
| douwei | anyone there? | 18:31 |
| iulian | douwei: Please join #ubuntu for support. | 18:31 |
| douwei | oops sorry | 18:32 |
| ximion | Could someone recheck the http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/libqtintf4 package? I think it's fine now. I added the missing README file also. (With instructions to change the version in rules for on new upstream versions) | 18:35 |
| alefteris | how can i use the config file with pbuilder, i tryed with no luck: sudo pbuilder build ./opensc_0.11.4-5ubuntu1.dsc --configfile /home/thanos/dev/packaging/pbuilderrc-jaunty | 19:04 |
| jbernard__ | what is the best way to handle package versioning when upstream employs a "-r3", "-r4", "-r5" scheme? | 19:09 |
| alefteris | nevermind | 19:16 |
| ximion | jbernard: I would suggest appname-1.05.4.6r3 | 19:19 |
| ximion | simply add the letter and the number without - | 19:20 |
| jbernard__ | what if there is no digit before the 'r'? | 19:20 |
| ximion | but maybe there exists a fixed naming-standard? | 19:20 |
| jbernard__ | upstream is releasing <package-name>-r5, for in instance | 19:20 |
| ximion | jbernard: What is the exact version of the application? | 19:21 |
| jbernard__ | "r5" ;) | 19:21 |
| jbernard__ | i would assume | 19:21 |
| ximion | only this? | 19:21 |
| jbernard__ | the previous release was "r4" | 19:21 |
| jbernard__ | yep | 19:21 |
| jbernard__ | kinda weird | 19:21 |
| ximion | what is the name of the application? | 19:22 |
| jbernard__ | lua-iconv | 19:22 |
| ximion | (I've never seen this strange release naming!) | 19:22 |
| jbernard__ | http://luaforge.net/projects/lua-iconv/ | 19:22 |
| jbernard__ | i haven't either | 19:22 |
| jbernard__ | dh-make gets really upset | 19:23 |
| jbernard__ | and i would assume other tools will have issues as well | 19:23 |
| ximion | They named it 0.r5 | 19:25 |
| jbernard__ | where did you get the '0' from? | 19:25 |
| jbernard__ | they only did the '0' for "r3", from what i can tell | 19:25 |
| ximion | The project provides DEB packages. | 19:25 |
| ximion | The version of those packages is 0.r5 ;-) | 19:26 |
| jbernard__ | I see no '0' for the r5 release | 19:26 |
| jbernard__ | they distributed a deb for "r3", but it needs work | 19:27 |
| ximion | okay, they named it 0.r3, so you can name your package version 0.r5, I think this is o.k. | 19:28 |
| jbernard__ | cool, thanks | 19:31 |
| mrooney | if I am working on a manpage, what is the easiest way to preview it? | 20:21 |
| nellery | mrooney: man ./<manpage> | 20:23 |
| mrooney | nellery: haha wow, how silly of me, thanks! | 20:24 |
| nellery | mrooney: no problem | 20:24 |
| mrooney | maybe that is too simple for the internet to solve, all I could find was creating a postscript file from it :) | 20:24 |
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