| === giovani|1ork is now known as giovani|defcon | ||
| Bilge | Even though I use hardy, can I still install a deb built for intrepid? | 01:47 |
|---|---|---|
| giovani|defcon | Bilge: can you technically? yes -- it's very possible it won't work properly | 01:48 |
| Bilge | I wouldn't know why | 01:50 |
| Bilge | I can just built it myself though so whatever | 01:50 |
| giovani|defcon | Bilge: well why (or if) depends on the exact application -- could depend on library versions that you don't have, for example | 01:52 |
| giovani|defcon | it could also place things in directories not used in your version | 01:52 |
| giovani|defcon | lots of things change -- many things don't -- which is why there's no generic answer | 01:53 |
| tsrk_ | anyone have any idea why rsync'ing large amounts of data is causing a kernel panic on the receiving server? | 01:59 |
| giovani|defcon | tsrk_: could be lots of things -- bad ram -- bug in kernel, rsync -- etc | 02:00 |
| giovani|defcon | I presume you've googled? | 02:01 |
| tsrk_ | giovani|defcon, yeah, also I should mention it doesn't happen when it goes the other way | 02:01 |
| tsrk_ | there's some networking related things in the stacktrace though so i'm wondering if it's something with ssh | 02:01 |
| nick125 | Good evening. I have a quick question: Is it possible to install Ubuntu Server over SSH (once I get the CD in and potentially set a password and start sshd)? | 02:38 |
| giovani|defcon | nick125: by "over ssh" you mean what? | 03:07 |
| giovani|defcon | doing an interactive install via a pts? | 03:07 |
| nick125 | giovani|defcon: Going through the interactive prompts over SSH | 03:07 |
| nick125 | yep | 03:07 |
| giovani|defcon | nick125: not that I know of -- not sure why you'd want to | 03:08 |
| nick125 | Apparently, this piece of documentation says there is a way in the installer menu to do it | 03:08 |
| giovani|defcon | serial console, kvmoip, or automated install | 03:08 |
| nick125 | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/NetworkConsole | 03:08 |
| giovani|defcon | nick125: if it's in the "menu" it sounds like it https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/NetworkConsole | 03:08 |
| giovani|defcon | whoops, sorry -- bad paste | 03:08 |
| giovani|defcon | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/NetworkConsole | 03:09 |
| giovani|defcon | hah -- my tablet is failing | 03:09 |
| nick125 | giovani|defcon: Don't worry, this ducttape will fix it! | 03:09 |
| giovani|defcon | ok | 03:10 |
| giovani|defcon | it looks messy | 03:10 |
| giovani|defcon | I see no reason to do it | 03:10 |
| * nick125 backs the data up from his server | 03:10 | |
| giovani|defcon | but if you'd like to have your remote hands set that up for you -- go ahead | 03:10 |
| nick125 | Well, my server isn't remote, it's just that it's too uncomfortable to sit there and work on it for any period of time | 03:11 |
| giovani|defcon | then use serial console | 03:11 |
| giovani|defcon | that's the proper approach | 03:11 |
| giovani|defcon | the install should take minutes | 03:12 |
| giovani|defcon | you can also automate it | 03:12 |
| nick125 | Knowing my luck, it'll take a few hours :p | 03:12 |
| giovani|defcon | why? | 03:12 |
| nick125 | It would find a way to take hours. | 03:13 |
| giovani|defcon | if you want to convince yourself of that ... ok | 03:13 |
| nick125 | Hmm....I wonder if I could setup a serial console to the desktop sitting next to my server, then SSH into that box..hmm | 03:13 |
| giovani|defcon | why would you need to do that (I mean, you can ... but) | 03:14 |
| nick125 | It's going to take a bit of time to initialize the 3x160GB RAID-5 (320GB total volume size), then the LVM PV/VG..... | 03:15 |
| nick125 | I guess I could just leave it and let it do its thing | 03:15 |
| nick125 | Should I make a separate partition for /boot that isn't on the RAID? | 03:16 |
| giovani|defcon | doesn't sound like a big deal | 03:16 |
| === giovani|defcon is now known as is | ||
| === is is now known as giovani|defcon | ||
| giovani|defcon | nick125: is this hardware raid? | 03:16 |
| nick125 | giovani|defcon: software | 03:16 |
| nick125 | The motherboard in my server supports fakeraid, but I think I would rather avoid it (especially with the mix of different SATA controllers) | 03:17 |
| giovani|defcon | in general, I stay away from software raid | 03:21 |
| giovani|defcon | but yeah, I'd keep /boot off of it -- just in case the array is broken | 03:22 |
| nick125 | And the initrd included with Ubuntu Server works just fine for RAID/LVM? | 03:24 |
| ball | I sort of wish I'd gone for software RAID on the last server I put in. | 03:27 |
| giovani|defcon | the issue is grub -- grub supports lvm | 03:27 |
| giovani|defcon | it seems to support some raid levels (1, notably) | 03:27 |
| nick125 | The last Linux install I did, I put /boot on RAID 1 | 03:28 |
| giovani|defcon | ok, well from what I raid, grub will support it | 03:28 |
| giovani|defcon | but I see no reason to use it for /boot | 03:28 |
| nick125 | So if one drive fails, there's another drive to boot from | 03:33 |
| giovani|defcon | not if the MBR isn't there ... | 03:33 |
| giovani|defcon | which it won't be | 03:34 |
| nick125 | You can install the MBR to the other drives too | 03:35 |
| giovani|defcon | yes, but it wouldn't be there normally | 03:36 |
| giovani|defcon | just use real raid | 03:36 |
| nick125 | I don't have money for a $400-500 RAID controller | 03:37 |
| ball | I'm sure ours didn't cost that much. | 03:38 |
| giovani|defcon | nick125: try 1/10-1/5th of that | 03:39 |
| nick125 | A real RAID controller for $50? | 03:39 |
| nick125 | (or so) | 03:39 |
| giovani|defcon | $500 will buy you a high-end 8 port PCI-X controller | 03:39 |
| giovani|defcon | nick125: on the low end, yes | 03:39 |
| giovani|defcon | somewhere between $50-100 | 03:40 |
| ball | Ours has batteries on it for some reason. | 03:40 |
| giovani|defcon | ball: yeah ... that's normal | 03:40 |
| ball | ...to back up the cache RAM I suppose | 03:41 |
| giovani|defcon | to make sure the drives don't get corrupted mid power cut | 03:41 |
| ball | I need to go and lay down now | 03:47 |
| qman__ | yeah, I wouldn't bother with anything that wasn't at least $60, and even then, that's usually just a high performance disk controller, no RAID functions | 04:22 |
| qman__ | you don | 04:23 |
| qman__ | you don't have to spend a fortune on something really fancy, but at least get something like a highpoint rocketraid | 04:23 |
| qman__ | if you don't, you're better off just using mdraid than whatever fakeraid controllers you can get | 04:24 |
| ball | I like RAID, me. | 04:51 |
| gherring | greets - I'm fairly new to ubuntu server, but very familliar with kubuntu and ubuntu...how do I enable remote login to an ubuntu server? | 05:23 |
| giovani|defcon | gherring: you install openssh-server | 05:25 |
| gherring | ok....thanks for that. | 05:26 |
| gherring | I can look up the rest - thank you | 05:26 |
| giovani|defcon | you could've looked that up as well :) | 05:26 |
| gherring | well, your correct - but i wanted a somewhat expert opinion and the closest I figured i could get was coming in here and asking :) | 05:28 |
| giovani|defcon | an expert opinion on the ssh server package name? | 05:28 |
| gherring | no...i'm no stranger to command line and i can follow a walkthrough | 05:30 |
| gherring | i'm not good with servers...yet | 05:30 |
| giovani|defcon | uh, ok | 05:30 |
| giovani|defcon | so you're not familiar with ssh? | 05:30 |
| gherring | or how to log into them remotely | 05:30 |
| gherring | no, i've never used it but heard of it | 05:30 |
| giovani|defcon | then you probably should be using your desktop more | 05:30 |
| giovani|defcon | ssh is hardly limited to "servers" | 05:31 |
| gherring | scenario: i can (and do) vpn to a microsoft network every weekend - they want to install an ubuntu server | 05:31 |
| gherring | i need to be able to log into it after they install it | 05:32 |
| giovani|defcon | you shouldn't be administering a server for a company/organization if you've never done it before ... | 05:32 |
| gherring | it's ok...seriously. the admin is my brother | 05:33 |
| giovani|defcon | if you've never used SSH before ... I would advise you to take a huge step backwards | 05:33 |
| giovani|defcon | and learn the basics | 05:33 |
| gherring | i'm practicing | 05:33 |
| gherring | ok, where should i start then? | 05:33 |
| giovani|defcon | you should start by learning linux basics | 05:33 |
| giovani|defcon | and your desktop is a perfectly fine place to start | 05:33 |
| gherring | I know alot of the basics | 05:34 |
| gherring | ok | 05:34 |
| giovani|defcon | honestly, I beg to differ | 05:34 |
| gherring | i'm going to take your word on this | 05:34 |
| giovani|defcon | SSH is an extremely basic utility -- if you haven't used it yet -- you probably haven't spent much time with Linux | 05:34 |
| gherring | i'm not as 'swift' as i think i am | 05:34 |
| gherring | ok...is there a way I can practice using ssh? | 05:35 |
| giovani|defcon | sure ... the point wasn't really about SSH, just that it was evidence of your experience level | 05:35 |
| gherring | I have an ubuntu server in virtualbox installed and ready | 05:35 |
| giovani|defcon | get two linux boxes | 05:35 |
| giovani|defcon | use ssh to remotely connect to the other | 05:36 |
| giovani|defcon | I'd probably get a book on linux if I were you | 05:36 |
| gherring | I have to boxes next to each other right now...and a spare hp hub | 05:36 |
| twb` | You could still do that with virtualbox | 05:36 |
| giovani|defcon | learning piece-meal is likely to leave a lot of gaps in your knowledge | 05:36 |
| gherring | i do have huge gaps in my knowledge...but i can learn | 05:37 |
| gherring | what book on linux would you recommend? | 05:37 |
| giovani|defcon | I don't have one off-hand | 05:37 |
| giovani|defcon | surf amazon for one with a lot of good reviews | 05:38 |
| giovani|defcon | ask around | 05:38 |
| gherring | something like 'ubuntu server handbook'? | 05:38 |
| giovani|defcon | ? | 05:38 |
| gherring | i have an amazon account - i can do that tonight | 05:38 |
| giovani|defcon | account? browsing books doesn't require one | 05:38 |
| gherring | but is there a way I can practice ssh skills using virtualbox ose? | 05:39 |
| giovani|defcon | sigh | 05:39 |
| gherring | ok - sorry | 05:39 |
| giovani|defcon | unfortunately, you seem to be focusing on SSH | 05:39 |
| gherring | you brought it up...i'm hooked | 05:39 |
| giovani|defcon | which is exactly what I'm trying to tell you not to do -- it was just an -example- | 05:39 |
| gherring | ok..letting go of it | 05:39 |
| giovani|defcon | start with a basic book ... read the book | 05:40 |
| gherring | basic book on server or ubuntu in general? | 05:40 |
| gherring | btw, i appreciate your patience | 05:41 |
| giovani|defcon | you want something server-oriented -- the first thing you have to understand is that there's nothing that solidly differentiates a "server" from a "desktop" | 05:41 |
| giovani|defcon | those distinctions are largely made up -- and have more to do with function than the OS itself | 05:41 |
| gherring | ok... | 05:42 |
| gherring | ahhhh i see | 05:42 |
| giovani|defcon | ubuntu server and ubuntu desktop are the same OS | 05:42 |
| gherring | right | 05:42 |
| gherring | i've done minimal install before and totally agree with that | 05:42 |
| giovani|defcon | they use a different kernel -- that's it -- and that has to do with hardware support, and special features only people running servers typiclaly care about | 05:42 |
| giovani|defcon | other than that -- they offer the exact same software | 05:43 |
| gherring | right right.... | 05:43 |
| giovani|defcon | ok, so the knowledge won't differ | 05:43 |
| giovani|defcon | between a "desktop" and a "server" | 05:43 |
| gherring | i've installed a server kernel before on an xubuntu desktop system | 05:43 |
| giovani|defcon | other than application-specific stuff | 05:43 |
| gherring | right...i understand | 05:44 |
| gherring | so on a minimal install when i choose server it automatically selects a server kernel | 05:45 |
| gherring | or i could have chosen ubuntu desktop, but whatever - same frame work | 05:46 |
| twb` | Note that support for server software is significantly longer, though | 05:46 |
| twb` | Regarding security updates and such | 05:46 |
| gherring | twb - ok, understood | 05:47 |
| lukehasnoname | <3 Ubuntu server, mostly | 05:47 |
| twb` | I imagine the at the desktop kernel also has some basic "tuning" for a desktop role (e.g. more RTOS stuff) | 05:47 |
| giovani|defcon | twb`: sure, I don't think that's relevant to a basic understanding of them being the same OS | 05:48 |
| twb` | giovani|defcon: granted. | 05:48 |
| giovani|defcon | unfortunately, ubuntu has focused on differentiating the products in a marketing sense | 05:49 |
| giovani|defcon | which only serves to misinform, imo | 05:49 |
| gherring | glovan - oh, i see...causing some confusion | 05:49 |
| giovani|defcon | it's a windows thing | 05:50 |
| twb` | giovani|defcon: it's a necessary evil when dealing with the corporate space | 05:50 |
| giovani|defcon | commercial-focused (read: microsoft market-focused) distros began the whole "desktop" v "server" distinction | 05:50 |
| giovani|defcon | twb`: ubuntu isn't accepted in any significant way in the commercial space | 05:50 |
| twb` | It is where I hang out | 05:51 |
| === twb` is now known as twb | ||
| giovani|defcon | clearly you're not looking at the big picture | 05:51 |
| lukehasnoname | Eh, Ubuntu Server is a slightly different product. Different kernel settings and different default packages are a pretty big deal. It's like lamenting over the disinction between Ubuntu and Kubuntu. | 05:51 |
| giovani|defcon | how many fortune 1000 run ubuntu as a major part of their infrastrcuture? | 05:51 |
| giovani|defcon | lukehasnoname: I've already covered that | 05:51 |
| lukehasnoname | I just hopped in | 05:51 |
| twb | giovani|defcon: there is a huge difference between multinationals and corporations in general | 05:51 |
| giovani|defcon | twb: pick any metric you like | 05:52 |
| giovani|defcon | ubuntu is a nonexistant player in the corporate space | 05:52 |
| twb | In the SMEs I deal with, CentOS has lost a lot of ground to Ubuntu Server. | 05:52 |
| giovani|defcon | show me any evidence to the contrary | 05:52 |
| giovani|defcon | SMEs? -- name a few | 05:52 |
| twb | Well actually the deployments I'm most familiar with are prisons | 05:52 |
| giovani|defcon | prisons are enterprises? | 05:53 |
| lukehasnoname | giovani|defcon: | 05:53 |
| lukehasnoname | yes | 05:53 |
| twb | Here, they're government. | 05:53 |
| giovani|defcon | I suppose if they're commercially-owned and leased to the government | 05:53 |
| giovani|defcon | how big is the computing infrastrcuture at a prison you're talking about? | 05:53 |
| twb | around 300 desktops each | 05:54 |
| gherring | wow | 05:54 |
| giovani|defcon | that's ... | 05:54 |
| giovani|defcon | not an enterprise | 05:54 |
| giovani|defcon | that's a small-medium business | 05:54 |
| twb | I've lost interest in this discussion. | 05:54 |
| giovani|defcon | my company has almost 2000 servers, and we're considered a small business by most standards | 05:54 |
| lukehasnoname | giovani|defcon: Most standards is wrong, then | 05:54 |
| lukehasnoname | I work at a bank with 4,000 servers running several OSes, a multitude of apps, with a customer base of 6m | 05:55 |
| giovani|defcon | lukehasnoname: how any of the 4,000 are ubuntu? | 05:55 |
| lukehasnoname | divide that by two and you're still big or medium big | 05:55 |
| giovani|defcon | s/any/many/ | 05:55 |
| lukehasnoname | None. I wasn't making that point, if you're trying to gun after me. I'm arguing that 2k servers is not 'small' | 05:56 |
| giovani|defcon | no, I'm not gunning -- I'm using you as a random sample | 05:56 |
| lukehasnoname | We run Solaris 9, RHEL 4, AIX, and Windows 2003/2008 | 05:56 |
| lukehasnoname | mostly | 05:56 |
| lukehasnoname | I don't know what else | 05:56 |
| giovani|defcon | worse than random, really -- since you're in #ubuntu-server -- and clearly a user | 05:56 |
| giovani|defcon | I'm also clearly a user -- I think it's a great distro | 05:57 |
| twb | I think it's a horrible distro, but the alternatives are a lot worse. | 05:57 |
| giovani|defcon | but I acknowledge its lack of presence in the medium-large commercial space -- which is the market that defines the success of Linux distros, overall | 05:57 |
| gherring | i've tried several linux distros - ubuntu has been the most stable for me | 05:57 |
| twb | I sure a shit wouldn't want to babysit a bunch of AIX boxes | 05:57 |
| lukehasnoname | twb, you don't like Ubuntu? | 05:57 |
| gherring | lol @ twb | 05:58 |
| twb | I think Ubuntu has a great job of taking Debian and running it into the ground. | 05:58 |
| giovani|defcon | heh | 05:58 |
| giovani|defcon | then clearly you belong in #debian | 05:58 |
| gherring | wow - again | 05:58 |
| lukehasnoname | Elaborate. I'm seriously interested in hearing the other side of the fence. | 05:58 |
| lukehasnoname | Also, Are you talking about desktop or server space? | 05:58 |
| lukehasnoname | I assume server. | 05:58 |
| twb | lukehasnoname: it's more from a package maintainer's perspective. | 05:59 |
| twb | For example, reportbug(1) on Ubuntu for a long time silently sent email to a subscriber-only mailing list | 05:59 |
| twb | launchpad requires you to create an account to report bugs, and isn't AGPLd | 05:59 |
| lukehasnoname | Launchpad is AGPLed, isn't it? | 06:00 |
| lukehasnoname | recent development. | 06:00 |
| andol | twb: I think you inteded to saw wasn't? :) | 06:00 |
| andol | s/saw/say/ | 06:00 |
| twb | lukehasnoname: OK, I must be out of date on that. | 06:00 |
| twb | NetworkManager has fucked me repeatedly, and there was a change in d-i in hardy that meant that it tried to talk to archive.ubuntu.com before it asked you about proxies, which meant on a broken network I maintained, that you basically HAD to preseed or d-i would take like eight hours to install | 06:01 |
| lukehasnoname | admittedly, I haven't run Ubuntu Server on advanced or troubled configurations | 06:02 |
| twb | I don't think I can point to any one huge aggravation | 06:02 |
| twb | And Ubuntu have definitely improved some things | 06:02 |
| twb | And I prefer Ubuntu in pretty much every way to RHEL or Solaris :-) | 06:03 |
| lukehasnoname | I wanted to like Opensolaris, but I just didn't get into it | 06:03 |
| lukehasnoname | I think the packaging is a total mess | 06:03 |
| lukehasnoname | I even got a book on Osol, I was so interested | 06:03 |
| twb | You think that's bad, you should see OS X. | 06:04 |
| giovani|defcon | Solaris? -- let's stick to distro comparisons here | 06:04 |
| lukehasnoname | Back | 06:13 |
| lukehasnoname | Had to get a real IRC client | 06:13 |
| lukehasnoname | irc://irc.debian.org | 06:14 |
| lukehasnoname | damnit | 06:14 |
| giovani|defcon | lukehasnoname: now we know where your loyalties lie :) | 06:14 |
| lukehasnoname | I want to ask about some recent Debian news I heard | 06:14 |
| lukehasnoname | - kFreeBSD support, introducing the first non-linux architecture into Debian | 06:14 |
| lukehasnoname | Does this mean the FreeBSD kernel will be an official branch in the Debian project? | 06:15 |
| giovani|defcon | lukehasnoname: as far as I know, yes | 06:16 |
| giovani|defcon | not a "branch" but a port, yes | 06:17 |
| twb | Debian GNU/kFreeBSD has been around for ages | 06:17 |
| lukehasnoname | Ya, I know | 06:17 |
| twb | But I think like Debian GNU (as in GNU/Hurd), it has like five people who use it at all | 06:17 |
| lukehasnoname | well, since FreeBSD is a technically superior platform... | 06:18 |
| lukehasnoname | >_> | 06:18 |
| lukehasnoname | <_< | 06:18 |
| twb | I just wish the Solaris kernel didn't have the CDDL of death | 06:18 |
| twb | By all accounts it's a rockin' kernel | 06:18 |
| twb | But Nexenta is too hairy for me, due to CDDL/GPL fights in dpkg and such. | 06:19 |
| giovani|defcon | heh -- let's talk about how ssl died circa defcon 2009 | 06:19 |
| twb | giovani|defcon: openssl? | 06:19 |
| giovani|defcon | all major ssl implementations | 06:19 |
| giovani|defcon | in one form or another | 06:20 |
| giovani|defcon | tons of attacks released | 06:20 |
| lukehasnoname | protip: Don't wipe your database until you're sure you don't have any apps using it | 06:21 |
| lukehasnoname | ffffffuuuuuuuuuu | 06:21 |
| jmarsden | lukehasnoname: And even then, back it up first | 06:21 |
| nick125_lappy | lukehasnoname: Ouch. Well, if you didn't have backups before, now you do. | 06:23 |
| lukehasnoname | ya, this is kinda lame. | 06:23 |
| twb | Taking adequate backups is a lesson EVERYONE learns the hard way | 06:24 |
| nick125_lappy | Hm. In /etc/network/interfaces lingo, what is the equivalent to ip addr add <blah> <dev>? | 06:24 |
| twb | post-up ip addr add <blah> ? | 06:26 |
| twb | You want the interface to have two IPs? | 06:26 |
| nick125_lappy | twb: yes | 06:26 |
| twb | You could also try just listing two "address" lines | 06:27 |
| nick125_lappy | However, for some reason, dhcpd doesn't like serving addresses on the same subnet as a ethN:X alias. | 06:27 |
| nick125_lappy | Good idea. | 06:27 |
| nick125_lappy | Wait. What if the two addresses have a different netmask? | 06:28 |
| twb | Dunno. | 06:28 |
| twb | I do not normally do what you're talking about | 06:28 |
| nick125_lappy | Nobody seems to. :) | 06:28 |
| nick125_lappy | Can I have multiple post-up lines (if needed)? | 06:29 |
| twb | Why do you want to? | 06:29 |
| twb | Yes, post-up lines are run serially IIUC | 06:29 |
| twb | Or you can put stuff in /etc/network/if-up.d/ | 06:29 |
| nick125_lappy | Great. Thank you. | 06:30 |
| lukehasnoname | Good news: I was able to get torrentflux back up and running with minimal pain | 06:30 |
| twb | Be nice when apt-torrent gets off the ground | 06:33 |
| lukehasnoname | o_O? | 06:34 |
| gherring | 06:50 | |
| quizme | http://pastie.org/568384 <---- the permissions are 777 and I'm in the dev group, but I still change chmod g+w that file.... anybody know why not? | 06:54 |
| LiraNuna | how do you make rdiff-backup perform full mirror even though there's a previous backup present? | 07:05 |
| LiraNuna | the more diffs there are, the slower it is to restore | 07:06 |
| lukehasnoname | Wow, so annoying. | 07:07 |
| lukehasnoname | I was hoping phpMyBitTorrent would be an all in one solution | 07:07 |
| lukehasnoname | I want to choose a file, have a .torrent made, and load it to a tracker and seed, all in one step. | 07:08 |
| lukehasnoname | *a private tracker on my server | 07:08 |
| twb | Doesn't rdiff-backup just do a cp -al then an rsync, like rsnapshot? | 07:09 |
| LiraNuna | twb, no, it saves diffs | 07:09 |
| twb | Ew. | 07:10 |
| LiraNuna | not really | 07:10 |
| LiraNuna | it's pwerful | 07:10 |
| twb | Does it use --only-batch? | 07:10 |
| LiraNuna | eh? | 07:10 |
| twb | rsync --only-write-batch, I mean | 07:11 |
| LiraNuna | it uses librsync | 07:11 |
| twb | Ah, I didn't know that. | 07:11 |
| twb | rsnapshot is just perl or something | 07:11 |
| LiraNuna | rdiff-backup is a delicious combination of mirror backup and incremental backup | 07:11 |
| twb | So is rsnapshot | 07:12 |
| LiraNuna | problem is the more time passes by, there are more diffs to patch against, so restore gets slower | 07:12 |
| LiraNuna | I want to put some cron job every month to put a full mirror so it won't be as slow | 07:12 |
| twb | rsnapshot assumes you're backing up to a (possibly remote) hard disk, so you can just use hard links to get incrementality at zero cost. | 07:13 |
| twb | A restore is as fast as a single backup | 07:13 |
| LiraNuna | what about size? | 07:13 |
| twb | It wouldn't work with tapes or DVDs, though | 07:13 |
| twb | LiraNuna: you mean size of the thing being backed up? Arbitrary. | 07:14 |
| LiraNuna | anyway, I'm just seeking advice of how to overcome this problem | 07:14 |
| twb | Sorry, I went off on a tangent | 07:14 |
| LiraNuna | no problem, I didn't want to start 'backup warz' here :) | 07:15 |
| twb | Mea culpa. | 07:15 |
| LiraNuna | -b, --backup-mode | 07:18 |
| LiraNuna | Force backup mode even if first argument appears to be an incre‐ | 07:18 |
| LiraNuna | ment or mirror file. | 07:18 |
| LiraNuna | whoops | 07:18 |
| LiraNuna | will that destroy past diffs? | 07:18 |
| twb | At this point I would see if rdiff-backup has a dedicated channel. | 07:21 |
| andol | Well, at least there is no official or well known rdiff-backup channel. | 08:19 |
| andol | LiraNuna: At current stage, rdiff-backup can only have one full mirror, the rest is reverse diff. | 08:19 |
| nick125_lappy | Good evening (or morning) :) | 08:22 |
| lukehasnoname | Is there a trick to deploying a war to Tomcat? | 08:42 |
| lukehasnoname | I dropped a war in /usr/share/tomcat6/webapps/ like I was told | 08:42 |
| === dendrobates_ is now known as dendrobates | ||
| uvirtbot` | New bug: #407923 in samba (main) "package samba-common 2:3.3.2-1ubuntu3.1 failed to install/upgrade: Unterprozess post-installation script gab den Fehlerwert 1 zur?ck" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/407923 | 10:31 |
| quizme | what does "sudo mount /etc/mysql" do ? | 11:08 |
| quizme | in fstab it says "/vol/etc/mysql /etc/mysql none bind" | 11:09 |
| andol | quizme: Unless /vol/etc/mysql is mounted at /etc/mysql, that is what will be attempted. | 11:19 |
| rosa_ | hello...i am having problems with my cups system...i just install that in a new server, when i try to print to one of the printer that I install, doesn't print and shows a message in "processing since" and don't do nothing else...somebody can helo me please | 11:24 |
| quizme | andol: i'm totally confused. i don't know how my mysql database got onto /vol/var/lib/mysql, because my fstab doesn't have such an entry. | 11:44 |
| quizme | yet it works | 11:44 |
| quizme | and it's there | 11:44 |
| andol | quizme: Talk to the person who installed the server? | 11:47 |
| nick125_lappy | Hm. Apparently, I broke my networking. | 12:05 |
| uvirtbot` | New bug: #397721 in php5 "[needs-packaging] php-fpm" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/397721 | 12:18 |
| === holoway_ is now known as holoway | ||
| andol | cjwatson: Wondering if you, being Mr. OpenSSH, have any opion on whatever bug #362511 being important enough to backport the upstream patch? Goten the impression what we now don't watch to be to creative with our OpenSSH packages :) | 15:15 |
| uvirtbot` | Launchpad bug 362511 in openssh "force-command unable to pass arguments along to internal-sftp" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/362511 | 15:15 |
| Acs | hey guys | 17:07 |
| Acs | I am trying to run this php script and I am getting this Extension './dirtotal.php' not present. | 17:08 |
| Acs | I have #!/usr/bin/php -q at the top | 17:08 |
| Acs | and change the permissions to +x | 17:08 |
| Acs | and I am calling it like ./dirtotal.php | 17:08 |
| Acs | am I doing something wrong? | 17:08 |
| Acs | I have a php script that is being called in a cronjob and that works fine | 17:09 |
| Acs | anyone | 17:10 |
| Acs | ? | 17:10 |
| andol | Acs: Is "./dirtotal.php" what you have in cron? Is current working directory specified in any way? | 17:12 |
| Acs | no no the dirtotal.php is the script I am trying to run in the cli | 17:12 |
| Acs | in the cron it's another script | 17:13 |
| andol | Acs: Try specifying the full path to dirtotal.php instead | 17:15 |
| DiViN3 | anyone can help me plz | 17:16 |
| Acs | andol I have fixed by calling it with php | 17:16 |
| Acs | so php dirtotal.php works | 17:16 |
| Acs | thanks for the help | 17:16 |
| DiViN3 | how to add ips in ubuntu server | 17:17 |
| DiViN3 | wats the command or where must i add the ips | 17:17 |
| DiViN3 | anyone can help me plz - how do u add ips in ubuntu server | 17:20 |
| giovani|defcon | DiViN3: man interfaces | 17:20 |
| DiViN3 | giovani|defcon : sorry to say but m not that good with all that stated in there as i cant seem to understand | 17:23 |
| DiViN3 | giovani|defcon : all i did was read up from internet n setup my server | 17:23 |
| DiViN3 | giovani|defcon : i found out that by doing : ifconfig eth0 add 1.2.3.4 <--- the ip is added | 17:24 |
| DiViN3 | but some web say that i need to add the additional ips as virtual ips | 17:24 |
| DiViN3 | so that they can be binded for vhost | 17:24 |
| DiViN3 | anyone can help me with how to bind vhost for irc | 18:04 |
| DiViN3 | my revesre is not functioning | 18:04 |
| PerryArmstrong | can anyone help me ace this discussion at: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1228878 its related to servers | 18:29 |
| eVo_Divini | My whole file system is mounted read only. Will rebooting fix this? | 18:53 |
| giovani|defcon | eVo_Divini: depends on the cause | 18:56 |
| andol | eVo_Divini: If the system mount your (root) file system read only it might very well be because it detected some problems at mount time. | 19:15 |
| andol | eVo_Divini: If you look in /etc/fstab you might find the mount option "errors=remount-ro". | 19:15 |
| uvirtbot` | New bug: #405325 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 (main) "package mysql-server-5.0 5.1.30really5.0.75-0ubuntu10.2 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/405325 | 19:21 |
| storrgie | I just swapped the processor out on my rig, should I run anything when I boot up to make sure the kernel detects everything properly? | 19:37 |
| eVo_Divini | I found it andol | 19:50 |
| eVo_Divini | upon rebooting, the server hung | 19:51 |
| eVo_Divini | not sure why | 19:51 |
| eVo_Divini | the provider is working on it | 19:51 |
| nick125 | Good afternoon. On a server without VT/SVM, what virtualization method would you guys recommend, other than VMware Server? If I could run full-virtualization guests (i.e., Windows if the need comes up), that's a plus. | 20:43 |
| Nafallo | KVM | 22:09 |
| incorrect_ | i can't get a channel list, but what is the name of the ubuntu kvm channel | 22:16 |
| Nafallo | #ubuntu-virt | 22:16 |
| incorrect_ | is there a way to boot up rescue mode with no networking? or more to the point, how can i stop a module from loading at boot? | 23:03 |
| jpds | incorrect_: Add it to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf . | 23:06 |
| incorrect_ | jpds, init=/bin/bash and i hacked it out, bonded bridged interfaces = weird kernel panic | 23:17 |
| DormantOden | hey, can someone tell me the 32 bit library name? =) | 23:41 |
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