[01:47] <Bilge> Even though I use hardy, can I still install a deb built for intrepid?
[01:48] <giovani|defcon> Bilge: can you technically? yes -- it's very possible it won't work properly
[01:50] <Bilge> I wouldn't know why
[01:50] <Bilge> I can just built it myself though so whatever
[01:52] <giovani|defcon> Bilge: well why (or if) depends on the exact application -- could depend on library versions that you don't have, for example
[01:52] <giovani|defcon> it could also place things in directories not used in your version
[01:53] <giovani|defcon> lots of things change -- many things don't -- which is why there's no generic answer
[01:59] <tsrk_> anyone have any idea why rsync'ing large amounts of data is causing a kernel panic on the receiving server?
[02:00] <giovani|defcon> tsrk_: could be lots of things -- bad ram -- bug in kernel, rsync -- etc
[02:01] <giovani|defcon> I presume you've googled?
[02:01] <tsrk_> giovani|defcon, yeah, also I should mention it doesn't happen when it goes the other way
[02:01] <tsrk_> there's some networking related things in the stacktrace though so i'm wondering if it's something with ssh
[02:38] <nick125> Good evening. I have a quick question: Is it possible to install Ubuntu Server over SSH (once I get the CD in and potentially set a password and start sshd)?
[03:07] <giovani|defcon> nick125: by "over ssh" you mean what?
[03:07] <giovani|defcon> doing an interactive install via a pts?
[03:07] <nick125> giovani|defcon: Going through the interactive prompts over SSH
[03:07] <nick125> yep
[03:08] <giovani|defcon> nick125: not that I know of -- not sure why you'd want to
[03:08] <nick125> Apparently, this piece of documentation says there is a way in the installer menu to do it
[03:08] <giovani|defcon> serial console, kvmoip, or automated install
[03:08] <nick125> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/NetworkConsole
[03:08] <giovani|defcon> nick125: if it's in the "menu" it sounds like it https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/NetworkConsole
[03:08] <giovani|defcon> whoops, sorry -- bad paste
[03:09] <giovani|defcon>  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/NetworkConsole
[03:09] <giovani|defcon> hah -- my tablet is failing
[03:09] <nick125> giovani|defcon: Don't worry, this ducttape will fix it!
[03:10] <giovani|defcon> ok
[03:10] <giovani|defcon> it looks messy
[03:10] <giovani|defcon> I see no reason to do it
[03:10]  * nick125 backs the data up from his server
[03:10] <giovani|defcon> but if you'd like to have your remote hands set that up for you -- go ahead
[03:11] <nick125> Well, my server isn't remote, it's just that it's too uncomfortable to sit there and work on it for any period of time
[03:11] <giovani|defcon> then use serial console
[03:11] <giovani|defcon> that's the proper approach
[03:12] <giovani|defcon> the install should take minutes
[03:12] <giovani|defcon> you can also automate it
[03:12] <nick125> Knowing my luck, it'll take a few hours :p
[03:12] <giovani|defcon> why?
[03:13] <nick125> It would find a way to take hours.
[03:13] <giovani|defcon> if you want to convince yourself of that ... ok
[03:13] <nick125> Hmm....I wonder if I could setup a serial console to the desktop sitting next to my server, then SSH into that box..hmm
[03:14] <giovani|defcon> why would you need to do that (I mean, you can ... but)
[03:15] <nick125> It's going to take a bit of time to initialize the 3x160GB RAID-5 (320GB total volume size), then the LVM PV/VG.....
[03:15] <nick125> I guess I could just leave it and let it do its thing
[03:16] <nick125> Should I make a separate partition for /boot that isn't on the RAID?
[03:16] <giovani|defcon> doesn't sound like a big deal
[03:16] <giovani|defcon> nick125: is this hardware raid?
[03:16] <nick125> giovani|defcon: software
[03:17] <nick125> The motherboard in my server supports fakeraid, but I think I would rather avoid it (especially with the mix of different SATA controllers)
[03:21] <giovani|defcon> in general, I stay away from software raid
[03:22] <giovani|defcon> but yeah, I'd keep /boot off of it -- just in case the array is broken
[03:24] <nick125> And the initrd included with Ubuntu Server works just fine for RAID/LVM?
[03:27] <ball> I sort of wish I'd gone for software RAID on the last server I put in.
[03:27] <giovani|defcon> the issue is grub -- grub supports lvm
[03:27] <giovani|defcon> it seems to support some raid levels (1, notably)
[03:28] <nick125> The last Linux install I did, I put /boot on RAID 1
[03:28] <giovani|defcon> ok, well from what I raid, grub will support it
[03:28] <giovani|defcon> but I see no reason to use it for /boot
[03:33] <nick125> So if one drive fails, there's another drive to boot from
[03:33] <giovani|defcon> not if the MBR isn't there ...
[03:34] <giovani|defcon> which it won't be
[03:35] <nick125> You can install the MBR to the other drives too
[03:36] <giovani|defcon> yes, but it wouldn't be there normally
[03:36] <giovani|defcon> just use real raid
[03:37] <nick125> I don't have money for a $400-500 RAID controller
[03:38] <ball> I'm sure ours didn't cost that much.
[03:39] <giovani|defcon> nick125: try 1/10-1/5th of that
[03:39] <nick125> A real RAID controller for $50?
[03:39] <nick125> (or so)
[03:39] <giovani|defcon> $500 will buy you a high-end 8 port PCI-X controller
[03:39] <giovani|defcon> nick125: on the low end, yes
[03:40] <giovani|defcon> somewhere between $50-100
[03:40] <ball> Ours has batteries on it for some reason.
[03:40] <giovani|defcon> ball: yeah ... that's normal
[03:41] <ball> ...to back up the cache RAM I suppose
[03:41] <giovani|defcon> to make sure the drives don't get corrupted mid power cut
[03:47] <ball> I need to go and lay down now
[04:22] <qman__> yeah, I wouldn't bother with anything that wasn't at least $60, and even then, that's usually just a high performance disk controller, no RAID functions
[04:23] <qman__> you don
[04:23] <qman__> you don't have to spend a fortune on something really fancy, but at least get something like a highpoint rocketraid
[04:24] <qman__> if you don't, you're better off just using mdraid than whatever fakeraid controllers you can get
[04:51] <ball> I like RAID, me.
[05:23] <gherring> greets - I'm fairly new to ubuntu server, but very familliar with kubuntu and ubuntu...how do I enable remote login to an ubuntu server?
[05:25] <giovani|defcon> gherring: you install openssh-server
[05:26] <gherring> ok....thanks for that.
[05:26] <gherring> I can look up the rest  - thank you
[05:26] <giovani|defcon> you could've looked that up as well :)
[05:28] <gherring> well, your correct - but i wanted a somewhat expert opinion and the closest I figured i could get was coming in here and asking  :)
[05:28] <giovani|defcon> an expert opinion on the ssh server package name?
[05:30] <gherring> no...i'm no stranger to command line and i can follow a walkthrough
[05:30] <gherring> i'm not good with servers...yet
[05:30] <giovani|defcon> uh, ok
[05:30] <giovani|defcon> so you're not familiar with ssh?
[05:30] <gherring> or how to log into them remotely
[05:30] <gherring> no, i've never used it but heard of it
[05:30] <giovani|defcon> then you probably should be using your desktop more
[05:31] <giovani|defcon> ssh is hardly limited to "servers"
[05:31] <gherring> scenario: i can (and do) vpn to a microsoft network every weekend - they want to install an ubuntu server
[05:32] <gherring> i need to be able to log into it after they install it
[05:32] <giovani|defcon> you shouldn't be administering a server for a company/organization if you've never done it before ...
[05:33] <gherring> it's ok...seriously.  the admin is my brother
[05:33] <giovani|defcon> if you've never used SSH before ... I would advise you to take a huge step backwards
[05:33] <giovani|defcon> and learn the basics
[05:33] <gherring> i'm practicing
[05:33] <gherring> ok, where should i start then?
[05:33] <giovani|defcon> you should start by learning linux basics
[05:33] <giovani|defcon> and your desktop is a perfectly fine place to start
[05:34] <gherring> I know alot of the basics
[05:34] <gherring> ok
[05:34] <giovani|defcon> honestly, I beg to differ
[05:34] <gherring> i'm going to take your word on this
[05:34] <giovani|defcon> SSH is an extremely basic utility -- if you haven't used it yet -- you probably haven't spent much time with Linux
[05:34] <gherring> i'm not as 'swift' as i think i am
[05:35] <gherring> ok...is there a way I can practice using ssh?
[05:35] <giovani|defcon> sure ... the point wasn't really about SSH, just that it was evidence of your experience level
[05:35] <gherring> I have an ubuntu server in virtualbox installed and ready
[05:35] <giovani|defcon> get two linux boxes
[05:36] <giovani|defcon> use ssh to remotely connect to the other
[05:36] <giovani|defcon> I'd probably get a book on linux if I were you
[05:36] <gherring> I have to boxes next to each other right now...and a spare hp hub
[05:36] <twb`> You could still do that with virtualbox
[05:36] <giovani|defcon> learning piece-meal is likely to leave a lot of gaps in your knowledge
[05:37] <gherring> i do have huge gaps in my knowledge...but i can learn
[05:37] <gherring> what book on linux would you recommend?
[05:37] <giovani|defcon> I don't have one off-hand
[05:38] <giovani|defcon> surf amazon for one with a lot of good reviews
[05:38] <giovani|defcon> ask around
[05:38] <gherring> something like 'ubuntu server handbook'?
[05:38] <giovani|defcon> ?
[05:38] <gherring> i have an amazon account - i can do that tonight
[05:38] <giovani|defcon> account? browsing books doesn't require one
[05:39] <gherring> but is there a way I can practice ssh skills using virtualbox ose?
[05:39] <giovani|defcon> sigh
[05:39] <gherring> ok - sorry
[05:39] <giovani|defcon> unfortunately, you seem to be focusing on SSH
[05:39] <gherring> you brought it up...i'm hooked
[05:39] <giovani|defcon> which is exactly what I'm trying to tell you not to do -- it was just an -example-
[05:39] <gherring> ok..letting go of it
[05:40] <giovani|defcon> start with a basic book ... read the book
[05:40] <gherring> basic book on server or ubuntu in general?
[05:41] <gherring> btw, i appreciate your patience
[05:41] <giovani|defcon> you want something server-oriented -- the first thing you have to understand is that there's nothing that solidly differentiates a "server" from a "desktop"
[05:41] <giovani|defcon> those distinctions are largely made up -- and have more to do with function than the OS itself
[05:42] <gherring> ok...
[05:42] <gherring> ahhhh i see
[05:42] <giovani|defcon> ubuntu server and ubuntu desktop are the same OS
[05:42] <gherring> right
[05:42] <gherring> i've done minimal install before and totally agree with that
[05:42] <giovani|defcon> they use a different kernel -- that's it -- and that has to do with hardware support, and special features only people running servers typiclaly care about
[05:43] <giovani|defcon> other than that -- they offer the exact same software
[05:43] <gherring> right right....
[05:43] <giovani|defcon> ok, so the knowledge won't differ
[05:43] <giovani|defcon> between a "desktop" and a "server"
[05:43] <gherring> i've installed a server kernel before on an xubuntu desktop system
[05:43] <giovani|defcon> other than application-specific stuff
[05:44] <gherring> right...i understand
[05:45] <gherring> so on a minimal install when i choose server it automatically selects a server kernel
[05:46] <gherring> or i could have chosen ubuntu desktop, but whatever - same frame work
[05:46] <twb`> Note that support for server software is significantly longer, though
[05:46] <twb`> Regarding security updates and such
[05:47] <gherring> twb - ok, understood
[05:47] <lukehasnoname> <3 Ubuntu server, mostly
[05:47] <twb`> I imagine the at the desktop kernel also has some basic "tuning" for a desktop role (e.g. more RTOS stuff)
[05:48] <giovani|defcon> twb`: sure, I don't think that's relevant to a basic understanding of them being the same OS
[05:48] <twb`> giovani|defcon: granted.
[05:49] <giovani|defcon> unfortunately, ubuntu has focused on differentiating the products in a marketing sense
[05:49] <giovani|defcon> which only serves to misinform, imo
[05:49] <gherring> glovan - oh, i see...causing some confusion
[05:50] <giovani|defcon> it's a windows thing
[05:50] <twb`> giovani|defcon: it's a necessary evil when dealing with the corporate space
[05:50] <giovani|defcon> commercial-focused (read: microsoft market-focused) distros began the whole "desktop" v "server" distinction
[05:50] <giovani|defcon> twb`: ubuntu isn't accepted in any significant way in the commercial space
[05:51] <twb`> It is where I hang out
[05:51] <giovani|defcon> clearly you're not looking at the big picture
[05:51] <lukehasnoname> Eh, Ubuntu Server is a slightly different product. Different kernel settings and different default packages are a pretty big deal. It's like lamenting over the disinction between Ubuntu and Kubuntu.
[05:51] <giovani|defcon> how many fortune 1000 run ubuntu as a major part of their infrastrcuture?
[05:51] <giovani|defcon> lukehasnoname: I've already covered that
[05:51] <lukehasnoname> I just hopped in
[05:51] <twb> giovani|defcon: there is a huge difference between multinationals and corporations in general
[05:52] <giovani|defcon> twb: pick any metric you like
[05:52] <giovani|defcon> ubuntu is a nonexistant player in the corporate space
[05:52] <twb> In the SMEs I deal with, CentOS has lost a lot of ground to Ubuntu Server.
[05:52] <giovani|defcon> show me any evidence to the contrary
[05:52] <giovani|defcon> SMEs? -- name a few
[05:52] <twb> Well actually the deployments I'm most familiar with are prisons
[05:53] <giovani|defcon> prisons are enterprises?
[05:53] <lukehasnoname> giovani|defcon:
[05:53] <lukehasnoname> yes
[05:53] <twb> Here, they're government.
[05:53] <giovani|defcon> I suppose if they're commercially-owned and leased to the government
[05:53] <giovani|defcon> how big is the computing infrastrcuture at a prison you're talking about?
[05:54] <twb> around 300 desktops each
[05:54] <gherring> wow
[05:54] <giovani|defcon> that's ...
[05:54] <giovani|defcon> not an enterprise
[05:54] <giovani|defcon> that's a small-medium business
[05:54] <twb> I've lost interest in this discussion.
[05:54] <giovani|defcon> my company has almost 2000 servers, and we're considered a small business by most standards
[05:54] <lukehasnoname> giovani|defcon: Most standards is wrong, then
[05:55] <lukehasnoname> I work at a bank with 4,000 servers running several OSes, a multitude of apps, with a customer base of 6m
[05:55] <giovani|defcon> lukehasnoname: how any of the 4,000 are ubuntu?
[05:55] <lukehasnoname> divide that by two and you're still big or medium big
[05:55] <giovani|defcon> s/any/many/
[05:56] <lukehasnoname> None. I wasn't making that point, if you're trying to gun after me. I'm arguing that 2k servers is not 'small'
[05:56] <giovani|defcon> no, I'm not gunning -- I'm using you as a random sample
[05:56] <lukehasnoname> We run Solaris 9, RHEL 4, AIX, and Windows 2003/2008
[05:56] <lukehasnoname> mostly
[05:56] <lukehasnoname> I don't know what else
[05:56] <giovani|defcon> worse than random, really -- since you're in #ubuntu-server -- and clearly a user
[05:57] <giovani|defcon> I'm also clearly a user -- I think it's a great distro
[05:57] <twb> I think it's a horrible distro, but the alternatives are a lot worse.
[05:57] <giovani|defcon> but I acknowledge its lack of presence in the medium-large commercial space -- which is the market that defines the success of Linux distros, overall
[05:57] <gherring> i've tried several linux distros - ubuntu has been the most stable for me
[05:57] <twb> I sure a shit wouldn't want to babysit a bunch of AIX boxes
[05:57] <lukehasnoname> twb, you don't like Ubuntu?
[05:58] <gherring> lol @ twb
[05:58] <twb> I think Ubuntu has a great job of taking Debian and running it into the ground.
[05:58] <giovani|defcon> heh
[05:58] <giovani|defcon> then clearly you belong in #debian
[05:58] <gherring> wow - again
[05:58] <lukehasnoname> Elaborate. I'm seriously interested in hearing the other side of the fence.
[05:58] <lukehasnoname> Also, Are you talking about desktop or server space?
[05:58] <lukehasnoname> I assume server.
[05:59] <twb> lukehasnoname: it's more from a package maintainer's perspective.
[05:59] <twb> For example, reportbug(1) on Ubuntu for a long time silently sent email to a subscriber-only mailing list
[05:59] <twb> launchpad requires you to create an account to report bugs, and isn't AGPLd
[06:00] <lukehasnoname> Launchpad is AGPLed, isn't it?
[06:00] <lukehasnoname> recent development.
[06:00] <andol> twb: I think you inteded to saw wasn't? :)
[06:00] <andol> s/saw/say/
[06:00] <twb> lukehasnoname: OK, I must be out of date on that.
[06:01] <twb> NetworkManager has fucked me repeatedly, and there was a change in d-i in hardy that meant that it tried to talk to archive.ubuntu.com before it asked you about proxies, which meant on a broken network I maintained, that you basically HAD to preseed or d-i would take like eight hours to install
[06:02] <lukehasnoname> admittedly, I haven't run Ubuntu Server on advanced or troubled configurations
[06:02] <twb> I don't think I can point to any one huge aggravation
[06:02] <twb> And Ubuntu have definitely improved some things
[06:03] <twb> And I prefer Ubuntu in pretty much every way to RHEL or Solaris :-)
[06:03] <lukehasnoname> I wanted to like Opensolaris, but I just didn't get into it
[06:03] <lukehasnoname> I think the packaging is a total mess
[06:03] <lukehasnoname> I even got a book on Osol, I was so interested
[06:04] <twb> You think that's bad, you should see OS X.
[06:04] <giovani|defcon> Solaris? -- let's stick to distro comparisons here
[06:13] <lukehasnoname> Back
[06:13] <lukehasnoname> Had to get a real IRC client
[06:14] <lukehasnoname> irc://irc.debian.org
[06:14] <lukehasnoname> damnit
[06:14] <giovani|defcon> lukehasnoname: now we know where your loyalties lie :)
[06:14] <lukehasnoname> I want to ask about some recent Debian news I heard
[06:14] <lukehasnoname> - kFreeBSD support, introducing the first non-linux architecture into Debian
[06:15] <lukehasnoname> Does this mean the FreeBSD kernel will be an official branch in the Debian project?
[06:16] <giovani|defcon> lukehasnoname: as far as I know, yes
[06:17] <giovani|defcon> not a "branch" but a port, yes
[06:17] <twb> Debian GNU/kFreeBSD has been around for ages
[06:17] <lukehasnoname> Ya, I know
[06:17] <twb> But I think like Debian GNU (as in GNU/Hurd), it has like five people who use it at all
[06:18] <lukehasnoname> well, since FreeBSD is a technically superior platform...
[06:18] <lukehasnoname> >_>
[06:18] <lukehasnoname> <_<
[06:18] <twb> I just wish the Solaris kernel didn't have the CDDL of death
[06:18] <twb> By all accounts it's a rockin' kernel
[06:19] <twb> But Nexenta is too hairy for me, due to CDDL/GPL fights in dpkg and such.
[06:19] <giovani|defcon> heh -- let's talk about how ssl died circa defcon 2009
[06:19] <twb> giovani|defcon: openssl?
[06:19] <giovani|defcon> all major ssl implementations
[06:20] <giovani|defcon> in one form or another
[06:20] <giovani|defcon> tons of attacks released
[06:21] <lukehasnoname> protip: Don't wipe your database until you're sure you don't have any apps using it
[06:21] <lukehasnoname> ffffffuuuuuuuuuu
[06:21] <jmarsden> lukehasnoname: And even then, back it up first
[06:23] <nick125_lappy> lukehasnoname: Ouch. Well, if you didn't have backups before, now you do.
[06:23] <lukehasnoname> ya, this is kinda lame.
[06:24] <twb> Taking adequate backups is a lesson EVERYONE learns the hard way
[06:24] <nick125_lappy> Hm. In /etc/network/interfaces lingo, what is the equivalent to ip addr add <blah> <dev>?
[06:26] <twb> post-up ip addr add <blah> ?
[06:26] <twb> You want the interface to have two IPs?
[06:26] <nick125_lappy> twb: yes
[06:27] <twb> You could also try just listing two "address" lines
[06:27] <nick125_lappy> However, for some reason, dhcpd doesn't like serving addresses on the same subnet as a ethN:X alias.
[06:27] <nick125_lappy> Good idea.
[06:28] <nick125_lappy> Wait. What if the two addresses have a different netmask?
[06:28] <twb> Dunno.
[06:28] <twb> I do not normally do what you're talking about
[06:28] <nick125_lappy> Nobody seems to. :)
[06:29] <nick125_lappy> Can I have multiple post-up lines (if needed)?
[06:29] <twb> Why do you want to?
[06:29] <twb> Yes, post-up lines are run serially IIUC
[06:29] <twb> Or you can put stuff in /etc/network/if-up.d/
[06:30] <nick125_lappy> Great. Thank you.
[06:30] <lukehasnoname> Good news: I was able to get torrentflux back up and running with minimal pain
[06:33] <twb> Be nice when apt-torrent gets off the ground
[06:34] <lukehasnoname> o_O?
[06:50] <gherring>  
[06:54] <quizme> http://pastie.org/568384  <---- the permissions are 777 and I'm in the dev group, but I still change chmod g+w that file.... anybody know why not?
[07:05] <LiraNuna> how do you make rdiff-backup perform full mirror even though there's a previous backup present?
[07:06] <LiraNuna> the more diffs there are, the slower it is to restore
[07:07] <lukehasnoname> Wow, so annoying.
[07:07] <lukehasnoname> I was hoping phpMyBitTorrent would be an all in one solution
[07:08] <lukehasnoname> I want to choose a file, have a .torrent made, and load it to a tracker and seed, all in one step.
[07:08] <lukehasnoname> *a private tracker on my server
[07:09] <twb> Doesn't rdiff-backup just do a cp -al then an rsync, like rsnapshot?
[07:09] <LiraNuna> twb, no, it saves diffs
[07:10] <twb> Ew.
[07:10] <LiraNuna> not really
[07:10] <LiraNuna> it's pwerful
[07:10] <twb> Does it use --only-batch?
[07:10] <LiraNuna> eh?
[07:11] <twb> rsync --only-write-batch, I mean
[07:11] <LiraNuna> it uses librsync
[07:11] <twb> Ah, I didn't know that.
[07:11] <twb> rsnapshot is just perl or something
[07:11] <LiraNuna> rdiff-backup is a delicious combination of mirror backup and incremental backup
[07:12] <twb> So is rsnapshot
[07:12] <LiraNuna> problem is the more time passes by, there are more diffs to patch against, so restore gets slower
[07:12] <LiraNuna> I want to put some cron job every month to put a full mirror so it won't be as slow
[07:13] <twb> rsnapshot assumes you're backing up to a (possibly remote) hard disk, so you can just use hard links to get incrementality at zero cost.
[07:13] <twb> A restore is as fast as a single backup
[07:13] <LiraNuna> what about size?
[07:13] <twb> It wouldn't work with tapes or DVDs, though
[07:14] <twb> LiraNuna: you mean size of the thing being backed up?  Arbitrary.
[07:14] <LiraNuna> anyway, I'm just seeking advice of how to overcome this problem
[07:14] <twb> Sorry, I went off on a tangent
[07:15] <LiraNuna> no problem, I didn't want to start 'backup warz' here :)
[07:15] <twb> Mea culpa.
[07:18] <LiraNuna>        -b, --backup-mode
[07:18] <LiraNuna>               Force backup mode even if first argument appears to be an incre‐
[07:18] <LiraNuna>               ment or mirror file.
[07:18] <LiraNuna> whoops
[07:18] <LiraNuna> will that destroy past diffs?
[07:21] <twb> At this point I would see if rdiff-backup has a dedicated channel.
[08:19] <andol> Well, at least there is no official or well known rdiff-backup channel.
[08:19] <andol> LiraNuna: At current stage, rdiff-backup can only have one full mirror, the rest is reverse diff.
[08:22] <nick125_lappy> Good evening (or morning) :)
[08:42] <lukehasnoname> Is there a trick to deploying a war to Tomcat?
[08:42] <lukehasnoname> I dropped a war in /usr/share/tomcat6/webapps/ like I was told
[10:31] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #407923 in samba (main) "package samba-common 2:3.3.2-1ubuntu3.1 failed to install/upgrade: Unterprozess post-installation script gab den Fehlerwert 1 zur?ck" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/407923
[11:08] <quizme> what does "sudo mount /etc/mysql" do ?
[11:09] <quizme> in fstab it says "/vol/etc/mysql /etc/mysql none bind"
[11:19] <andol> quizme: Unless /vol/etc/mysql is mounted at /etc/mysql, that is what will be attempted.
[11:24] <rosa_> hello...i am having problems with my cups system...i just install that in a new server, when i try to print to one of the printer that I install, doesn't print and shows a message in "processing since" and don't do nothing else...somebody can helo me please
[11:44] <quizme> andol: i'm totally confused.  i don't know how my mysql database got onto /vol/var/lib/mysql, because my fstab doesn't have such an entry.
[11:44] <quizme> yet it works
[11:44] <quizme> and it's there
[11:47] <andol> quizme: Talk to the person who installed the server?
[12:05] <nick125_lappy> Hm. Apparently, I broke my networking.
[12:18] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #397721 in php5 "[needs-packaging] php-fpm" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/397721
[15:15] <andol> cjwatson: Wondering if you, being Mr. OpenSSH, have any opion on whatever bug #362511 being important enough to backport the upstream patch? Goten the impression what we now don't watch to be to creative with our OpenSSH packages :)
[15:15] <uvirtbot`> Launchpad bug 362511 in openssh "force-command unable to pass arguments along to internal-sftp" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/362511
[17:07] <Acs> hey guys
[17:08] <Acs> I am trying to run this php script and I am getting this Extension './dirtotal.php' not present.
[17:08] <Acs> I have #!/usr/bin/php -q at the top
[17:08] <Acs> and change the permissions to +x
[17:08] <Acs> and I am calling it like ./dirtotal.php
[17:08] <Acs> am I doing something wrong?
[17:09] <Acs> I have a php script that is being called in a cronjob and that works fine
[17:10] <Acs> anyone
[17:10] <Acs> ?
[17:12] <andol> Acs: Is "./dirtotal.php" what you have in cron? Is current working directory specified in any way?
[17:12] <Acs> no no the dirtotal.php is the script I am trying to run in the cli
[17:13] <Acs> in the cron it's another script
[17:15] <andol> Acs: Try specifying the full path to dirtotal.php instead
[17:16] <DiViN3> anyone can help me plz
[17:16] <Acs> andol I have fixed by calling it with php
[17:16] <Acs> so php dirtotal.php works
[17:16] <Acs> thanks for the help
[17:17] <DiViN3> how to add ips in ubuntu server
[17:17] <DiViN3> wats the command or where must i add the ips
[17:20] <DiViN3> anyone can help me plz - how do u add ips in ubuntu server
[17:20] <giovani|defcon> DiViN3: man interfaces
[17:23] <DiViN3> giovani|defcon : sorry to say but m not that good with all that stated in there as i cant seem to understand
[17:23] <DiViN3> giovani|defcon : all i did was read up from internet n setup my server
[17:24] <DiViN3> giovani|defcon : i found out that  by doing  : ifconfig eth0 add 1.2.3.4     <--- the ip is added
[17:24] <DiViN3> but some web say that i need to add the additional ips as virtual ips
[17:24] <DiViN3> so that they can be binded for vhost
[18:04] <DiViN3> anyone can help me with how to bind vhost for irc
[18:04] <DiViN3> my revesre is not functioning
[18:29] <PerryArmstrong> can anyone help me ace this discussion at: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1228878   its related to servers
[18:53] <eVo_Divini> My whole file system is mounted read only. Will rebooting fix this?
[18:56] <giovani|defcon> eVo_Divini: depends on the cause
[19:15] <andol> eVo_Divini: If the system mount your (root) file system read only it might very well be because it detected some problems at mount time.
[19:15] <andol> eVo_Divini: If you look in /etc/fstab you might find the mount option "errors=remount-ro".
[19:21] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #405325 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 (main) "package mysql-server-5.0 5.1.30really5.0.75-0ubuntu10.2 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/405325
[19:37] <storrgie> I just swapped the processor out on my rig, should I run anything when I boot up to make sure the kernel detects everything properly?
[19:50] <eVo_Divini> I found it andol
[19:51] <eVo_Divini> upon rebooting, the server hung
[19:51] <eVo_Divini> not sure why
[19:51] <eVo_Divini> the provider is working on it
[20:43] <nick125> Good afternoon. On a server without VT/SVM, what virtualization method would you guys recommend, other than VMware Server? If I could run full-virtualization guests (i.e., Windows if the need comes up), that's a plus.
[22:09] <Nafallo> KVM
[22:16] <incorrect_> i can't get a channel list, but what is the name of the ubuntu kvm channel
[22:16] <Nafallo> #ubuntu-virt
[23:03] <incorrect_> is there a way to boot up rescue mode with no networking? or more to the point, how can i stop a module from loading at boot?
[23:06] <jpds> incorrect_: Add it to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf .
[23:17] <incorrect_> jpds, init=/bin/bash and i hacked it out, bonded bridged interfaces = weird kernel panic
[23:41] <DormantOden> hey, can someone tell me the 32 bit library name? =)