[01:01] <cesarpinto1980> hello guys
[01:01] <cesarpinto1980> support request from a newbie here?
[01:03] <cesarpinto1980> alguien habla espanol?
[01:03] <cesarpinto1980> por casualidad?
[01:04] <cesarpinto1980> im just trying to fix the screen resolution on my newly installed xubuntu ver 9.04
[01:04] <cesarpinto1980> i only get 800x600 option
[01:05] <cesarpinto1980> i tried to fix it with the instructions on the xubuntu website
[01:05] <cesarpinto1980> but im not very familiar with linux
[01:05] <cesarpinto1980> maybe there is someone who can help me for a few mins?
[01:05] <cesarpinto1980> pleeease?#
[01:16] <Roybot> cesarpint: Maybe you dont have the right drivers for your  graphics card
[01:40] <benchik> say guys. whats most of xubuntu developing deals with? python/bash scripts?
[01:42] <knome> those and of course bugfixing things that are important to xubuntu.
[01:42] <knome> of course "development" is a lot more, for example decisions about default applications
[01:43] <benchik> knome: suppose i want to contribute. should i know both python and shell script. or one of them will suffice?
[01:44] <knome> it's a lot more than python (and definitely more than bash scripts)
[01:44] <knome> benchik, see http://xubuntu.org/contribute
[01:44] <knome> benchik, you should at least join the xubuntu-devel mailing list and it would be nice if you joined #xubuntu-devel
[01:45] <knome> benchik, knowing what you would like to help would be awesome as well :)
[01:45] <knome> *help with
[01:46] <benchik> knome: will check that. thanks. basically my current scipting knowledge is python and perl. planning to learn bash scripting pretty soon
[01:47] <knome> tbh, bash scripting isn't exactly what we need :) there's only a few things that are done with them.
[01:48] <benchik> knome: so most scripting is python?
[01:48] <knome> yes, there's more things in python
[02:06] <papul> can i install xubuntu in a netbook
[02:07] <papul> will xubuntu run on netbooks?
[02:08] <knome> papul, i run xubuntu on my eeepc.
[02:08] <knome> papul, though apart from eeepc's, i don't know what the hardware compatibility is.
[02:13] <cagey> is this an acceptable place for troubeshooting assistance w/my fresh, non-working xubuntu install?
[02:13] <knome> cagey, sure.
[02:13] <knome> cagey, exactly what this channel is for.
[02:14] <cagey> Good!  I have Googled myself silly but I can't find the "switch" to fix my deal. :(
[02:15] <cagey> unfortunately, I'm not at the machine right now but I can still take notes...
[02:15] <knome> okay
[02:16] <cagey> so... fresh install of xubuntu 904 on an ancient (233MHz) box.  went through entire install and booted normally.  Upon reboot (the next day) it never loads the desktop.
[02:16] <knome> how much ram do you havE?
[02:17] <cagey> 256M-maxed
[02:17] <cagey> it loads a "background" of a single blue colour and the mouse pointer is present but no icons, no menus, no taskbar.  No ability to right -click.
[02:17] <knome> okay, that shouldn't be the problem
[02:17] <knome> did you try running the live cd?
[02:18] <cagey> yes.  Thats what I used to install
[02:18] <knome> it sounds like a problem with resources, but your machine should be able to take it.
[02:19] <cagey> in the system log, I see avahi-daemon doing something about every minute but that's it
[02:19] <cagey> but it booted fine the 1st time after install so that seem confusing to me
[02:19] <knome> oh, so you have had it running already
[02:20] <knome> our minimum requirements are actually a 333 mhz processor etc. etc., but as you have already logged in...
[02:20] <cagey> yeah, after the install, I rebooted as directed and it booted into the new OS.  I played around for a while and let it set for a bit.
[02:20] <knome> what did you do while the first login?
[02:21] <cagey> looked around.  prob played Solitaire.  Tried to minimise GUI action to save CPU "power". N ow when it boots, it appesrs to go through everything, splash, animated XFCE screen, etc but then settles to the non desktop w/pointer
[02:22] <knome> hmmh.
[02:22] <cagey> in fact, I had wondered about the XFCE screen as it was one of the few things I did.  although, I dont know if it's a background or an intermediate splash?
[02:23] <knome> the mouse with the light blue background?
[02:23] <cagey> I guess the XFCE w/animation is actually the splash?
[02:24] <knome> yes.
[02:24] <cagey> it look slike its "slamost there" but never gets past that solid screen w/pointer.  It must be a very simple thing ,despite my consternation on the matter! :)
[02:24] <knome> hmm.
[02:25] <knome> maybe try removing .cache
[02:25] <cagey> is it a file or dir.? is it in root?
[02:25] <knome> sorry, i mean ~/.cache, where ~ is your home directory
[02:25] <knome> /home/yourusername/.cache
[02:26] <cagey> can I just "rm" it?
[02:26] <knome> rmdir :)
[02:26] <knome> or ehm
[02:26] <knome> "rm -rf .cache" actually
[02:26] <cagey> ah!
[02:26] <knome> as the directory is not empty.
[02:27] <cagey> right.  I've seen that one before
[02:27] <cagey> do you think it's getting stuck on old info, stalled it?
[02:27] <cagey> stalling
[02:27] <knome> i don't know. it sounds weird.
[02:28] <knome> if it doesn't work, it's probably just your cpu not being powerful enough:/
[02:28] <cagey> the live CD goes to the screen for a little while, but progresses beyond it after 30 s or so
[02:28] <knome> right..
[02:28] <cagey> if CPU nogo, why would it tolerate the live CD?
[02:28] <knome> don't know.
[02:29] <knome> it could run once whilst installing, that is what makes it weird
[02:29] <cagey> I know it's running full-out just to run the GUI but I didnt know of a better distro to try
[02:30] <knome> yeah...
[02:30] <cagey> it runs DSL very well but it's pretty rough
[02:30] <knome> usually people are struggling with the amount of ram but your problem is a bit different
[02:30] <cagey> I know it prob wants 512 but...
[02:30] <knome> 256 is good for running it
[02:31] <knome> you can get it running even with 128, but it will be damn slow
[02:31] <cagey> anything you can think of is the rm cache doesnt fix me?
[02:31] <cagey> if the...
[02:31] <knome> hmm.
[02:31] <knome> i'm really out of ideas
[02:32] <knome> maybe come back later and ask if anybody else has ideas
[02:32] <cagey> if too slow, I would just think it;d be... well... too slow.  Not no load
[02:32] <knome> it's night in europe, so...
[02:32] <cagey> yeah.  at least I found this channel.  Live help beats endless searching...
[02:32] <cagey> thanks for the ideas!
[02:33] <knome> yeah, no problem
[04:20] <moonbeam_> hello, anyone here particularly familiar with xfwm4?  I'm seeing something a bit odd but I'm not sure if it's wnck issue or xfwm4 issue.  The code in question works fine with Metacity and Compiz though.
[04:21] <moonbeam_> I'm guessing this isn't the right channel.
[11:06] <zhxk`> hello, may i have two edition of xfce on same system, one is stadarded xfce desktop, another is simiplified xfce?
[11:07] <zhxk`> user can choose wich to login at gdm time?
[14:23] <Syrius> hello everybody there ?
[14:23] <Syrius> does any body use gryc ?
[14:40] <Syrius> if I check the update existing and make backups of existing that will update existing make backup first and also backup newly created files right ?
[16:23] <hezy> Hi, anyone knows how to disable the autosearch in synaptic?
[16:25] <hezy> I type one letter and it starts looking for matching programs before I get to the second letter, nad then I have to wait for a while. This is on my old computer (no problem with a new one)
[18:54] <BCM43> I try to install xubuntu on my aspire one via usb and I get the error "The attempt to mount a file system with type ext3 in scsi2 (0,0,0), partition #1 (sda) at "/" failed" I try to configure manualy with fdisk /dev/sda and I then try to save it and I get fdisk printout: “Calling ioctl() to re-read partition table. WARNING: Re-reading the partition table failed with error 16: Device or resource busy”
[19:32] <pteague> is there some way to force a dhcp change to /etc/resolv.conf ?  i have xubuntu in a virtualbox instance & connected to the wireless at work at which point everything was set correctly... put the macbookpro to sleep, got home, woke it, & it won't change the resolv.conf ... i think i was able to get it to change the ip by restarting networking, but don't remember... finally just gave up & restarted the vm
[19:34] <Besogon> pteague: change that fily byyouself. This is not hard
[19:35] <pteague> yes, but i don't want to have to daily change it between work & home
[19:36] <Besogon> If you have NetowrkManager that should change resolf.conf automaticaly
[19:39] <pteague> unfortunately that doesn't seem to happen in NAT mode... if i set it up as bridged it does, but bridged has 2 issues... if the dhcp/network is stupid (like a hotel) it shows up as 2 different computers & if the mbp isn't connected to anything then it seems to report that there's no networking device... maybe i need to screw with this on the vbox end
[19:43] <Besogon> Ask on #ubuntu chanel pleace. I not well in English