| poolie | hi all | 00:45 |
|---|---|---|
| pigmej | hi ;) | 00:49 |
| pigmej | anyone alive? | 00:49 |
| mwhudson | maybe | 00:50 |
| pygi | maybe not | 00:51 |
| lifeless | theory has it that we can't really tell | 00:51 |
| pigmej | ;] | 00:52 |
| pigmej | ok guys :) | 00:52 |
| pigmej | I need to setup multibranch env | 00:52 |
| pigmej | with bug tracking system... | 00:52 |
| pigmej | the question is how to do it "good" | 00:52 |
| pigmej | and what do you recomend ;-) | 00:52 |
| pigmej | For now I cannot use launchpad... | 00:53 |
| pigmej | not yet.. | 00:53 |
| lifeless | pigmej: I don't really know what you want | 00:53 |
| pygi | I think he wants a bug system integrated with bzr | 00:54 |
| pigmej | lifeless: I have project... | 00:54 |
| pigmej | We have multiple branches | 00:54 |
| pygi | pigmej, you might be interested in cluemapper then? | 00:54 |
| pigmej | We want to "manage" bugs etc with web interface | 00:54 |
| pigmej | I'm trying to do it with Trac | 00:54 |
| pygi | pigmej, http://projects.serverzen.com/pm/p/cluemapper | 00:55 |
| pygi | :) | 00:55 |
| pygi | also look into ClueBzrServer | 00:55 |
| pygi | (its there on that page) | 00:55 |
| pigmej | hmmm | 00:55 |
| pigmej | thanks.. | 00:55 |
| pygi | but I'm off to sleep now :p | 00:55 |
| pigmej | I will look ;) | 00:55 |
| pigmej | Cu ;) | 00:55 |
| pygi | night | 00:55 |
| spiv | Good morning. | 01:00 |
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| lifeless | jml: are you back? | 01:05 |
| poolie | lifeless: i don't think he will be | 01:06 |
| poolie | according to my record | 01:06 |
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| pigmej | hmmm | 01:12 |
| lifeless | pigmej: why can't you use launchpad? | 01:15 |
| pigmej | I need to store code in private plase | 01:16 |
| pigmej | until first public release | 01:16 |
| pigmej | GPLv3 licence | 01:16 |
| lifeless | launchpad can do that if you get a subscription | 01:16 |
| pigmej | lifeless: yah payed one | 01:16 |
| lifeless | (private hosting is a for-fee service) | 01:16 |
| pigmej | lifeless: lauchpad hasn't private "projects".... | 01:17 |
| pigmej | or am I wrong? | 01:17 |
| lifeless | hmm, I don't remember | 01:17 |
| pigmej | btw error: Could not find suitable distribution for Requirement.parse('TracWysiwyg') | 01:17 |
| lifeless | I suggest you ask on #launchpad about that | 01:17 |
| pigmej | from easy_install cluemapper | 01:18 |
| pigmej | ok I've fixed it | 01:21 |
| pigmej | lifeless: launchpad hasn't private "space" in 100% | 01:21 |
| pigmej | but it's open source now.. so maybe that's the way.. | 01:21 |
| poolie | pigmej: if you ask and explain the situation they might give you free temporary private hosting | 01:26 |
| poolie | i'm not sure | 01:26 |
| spiv | poolie: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/bzr/+bug/375013, see comment #1. That's the hpss blackbox test that fails with 2a. | 01:27 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 375013 in bzr "Commit doesn't honor stacking invariants" [Critical,Triaged] | 01:27 |
| GungaDin | Hi | 02:23 |
| poolie | spiv: i pushed lp:~mbp/bzr/default2a | 02:24 |
| poolie | nice idea | 02:24 |
| GungaDin | While I'm trying to checkout a branch on my Windows machine, I keep getting a' bzr: ERROR [Errno 2] No such file or directory: u'.....'' while bzr is downloading the tree. any ideas why? | 02:24 |
| poolie | GungaDin: not unless you provide more information | 02:24 |
| lifeless | GungaDin: look in the log - bzr --version will tell you where the log is | 02:24 |
| lifeless | there should be a backtrace; could you pastebin that thanks. | 02:25 |
| lifeless | if not hasattr(test, '__call__'): | 02:28 |
| lifeless | raise TypeError("the test to add must be callable") | 02:28 |
| lifeless | I sometimes despair about upstream | 02:28 |
| pigmej | lifeless: have you tried cluemapper with bzr ? | 02:29 |
| pigmej | how to do it? | 02:29 |
| GungaDin | http://pastebin.com/d220d4a35 | 02:30 |
| lifeless | pigmej: I don't know what cluemapper is - so no, sorry. | 02:30 |
| GungaDin | oops | 02:31 |
| GungaDin | wrong one | 02:31 |
| GungaDin | sorry | 02:31 |
| lifeless | GungaDin: no problem | 02:31 |
| GungaDin | http://pastebin.com/d4f2617a2 | 02:37 |
| lifeless | I think you might be running into a path depth issue | 02:40 |
| GungaDin | .. ? | 02:40 |
| GungaDin | why? is there a limitation? | 02:40 |
| lifeless | either that, or one of the elements in C:/cygwin/home/me/Sources/myproj/.bzr/checkout/limbo/new-100/A/B/C/D/E/a.b.c.d.e.f.datasource is missing | 02:40 |
| lifeless | GungaDin: windows has many limitations | 02:40 |
| GungaDin | I hardly believe that's the case. | 02:41 |
| lifeless | is that the actual string, or did you edit it somewhat ? | 02:41 |
| GungaDin | I just changed that directory and file names. Not the depth. | 02:41 |
| lifeless | I need to know how long the original string was | 02:42 |
| GungaDin | just a sec, I'll let you know. | 02:42 |
| GungaDin | You think it's greater than 255? | 02:42 |
| lifeless | 127 | 02:42 |
| GungaDin | the limit is 127? | 02:42 |
| lifeless | there are several different limits | 02:43 |
| lifeless | per-dir and total length | 02:43 |
| lifeless | I'm just refreshing my memory | 02:43 |
| GungaDin | the path string length is 262 | 02:43 |
| lifeless | ok | 02:44 |
| lifeless | the limit is 260 | 02:44 |
| lifeless | http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa365247(VS.85).aspx | 02:44 |
| lifeless | "In the Windows API (with some exceptions discussed in the following paragraphs), the maximum length for a path is MAX_PATH, which is defined as 260 characters. " | 02:44 |
| lifeless | there are some things that can be done to use longer paths, but they have various different problems | 02:46 |
| lifeless | such as causing Windows Explorer to fail | 02:46 |
| GungaDin | http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa365247%28VS.85%29.aspx | 02:46 |
| GungaDin | yeah | 02:46 |
| lifeless | if you can make a temp dir a c:\F | 02:50 |
| lifeless | and checkout into that it may work better | 02:50 |
| lifeless | please file a bug; there are some things we can do to workaround this, if we can detect it even half decently | 02:50 |
| GungaDin | MSDN also mentions there are functions to use an extended path name. | 02:55 |
| GungaDin | up to 32768 chars. | 02:55 |
| lifeless | yes. - as I said above in fact :). "11:46 < lifeless> there are some things that can be done to use longer paths, but they have various different problems" | 02:57 |
| lifeless | spiv: are you sending to pqm from lp successfully now? | 02:58 |
| spiv | lifeless: not yet, but I don't think I've tried recently. | 03:07 |
| spiv | My locations.conf still uses http:// for public_location as a workaround. | 03:07 |
| GungaDin | ok, submitted a bug | 03:14 |
| GungaDin | thx. | 03:14 |
| poolie | lifeless: subunit is making me install libtool; ewww | 03:16 |
| poolie | you do get points though for not shipping the standard useless INSTALL file | 03:18 |
| meoblast001 | hi | 03:19 |
| lifeless | poolie: you probably don't need the C bindings; you can just add ./python to your path; or use one of the debs | 03:19 |
| meoblast001 | i have the BZR-CIA plugin installed, by any chance does anyone know how to remove CIA reporting from a project (i'm going to be pushing to a seperate branch | 03:19 |
| lifeless | meoblast001: I don't know, sorry. | 03:20 |
| lifeless | fooding | 03:21 |
| poolie | you have debs now? | 03:21 |
| lifeless | yes | 03:21 |
| lifeless | as I said to jam :P | 03:22 |
| lifeless | https://edge.launchpad.net/~subunit has two PPA's | 03:22 |
| lifeless | releases and snapshots | 03:22 |
| poolie | you should link to them from the subunit home page..., | 03:22 |
| lifeless | if you're on a distro-release that isn't represented, let me know and I'll upload targetting it for you | 03:22 |
| poolie | i'm on jaunty and on karmic | 03:23 |
| lifeless | it would be nice if lp would join these things a little more nicely. | 03:23 |
| lifeless | anyhow, right now. _food_. I shall return shortly. | 03:24 |
| SamB | fools! | 03:33 |
| poolie | ? | 03:33 |
| SamB | using Ubuntu ;-P | 03:33 |
| poolie | rather than? | 03:34 |
| SamB | Debian, duh! | 03:34 |
| poolie | oh, i thought you were going to say GEOS | 03:35 |
| lifeless | poolie: subunit 0.1 (a snapshot between 0.1 and 0.2 actually) is in karmic, no ppa needed there at all | 04:01 |
| poolie | k | 04:02 |
| poolie | lifeless: does subunit, eg subunit-stats, print out the errors but not the failures? | 04:03 |
| SamB | don't you need to use subunit-filter to get that? | 04:05 |
| SamB | that's what I'm doing | 04:05 |
| * SamB is using 0.0.2~bzr68-1 | 04:06 | |
| lifeless | poolie: subunit-stats consumes the entire stream, just reports the aggregate; if you're seeing other stuff, its being passed through | 04:06 |
| lifeless | which can be caused by badly escaped exceptions (I have to check for bugs there), *or* bzr corrupting the stream by e.g. top level network progress output | 04:06 |
| SamB | when I run bzr selftest --subunit it tells me *everything* | 04:07 |
| lifeless | SamB: right; you can pipe that through subunit2pyunit for a pyunit display; trunk has subunit2gtk, subunit2pyunit --progress to get a bzr progress bar | 04:07 |
| lifeless | if you want to read the raw stream, subunit-filter --no-skip is probably what you want | 04:07 |
| poolie | lifeless: bug 408186 | 04:11 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 408186 in subunit "subunit-stats prints some errors" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/408186 | 04:11 |
| SamB | I usually end up redirecting/teeing to a file and doing different things | 04:11 |
| SamB | ... interspersed with cursing unittest for not supporting traceback-format overriding | 04:13 |
| lifeless | poolie: checking | 04:15 |
| lifeless | SamB: I have some thoughts/plans on how to tie multiple filters together better | 04:15 |
| lifeless | a shell Y should utility would be nice | 04:15 |
| lifeless | as would a subunit interleaver | 04:15 |
| SamB | lifeless: how is that going to help me convince unittest to print tracebacks with variable names, without feeling dirty because of the inevetable monkey-patches? | 04:16 |
| lifeless | SamB: it won't, it will just make it easier to deal wiht ;) | 04:17 |
| SamB | this would be far more tolerable if I BZR_PDB=1 would catch test failures | 04:17 |
| SamB | oh, variable values too ;-) | 04:18 |
| lifeless | poolie: thanks | 04:27 |
| lifeless | this is an important unittest model issue, as it happens | 04:27 |
| poolie | lifeless: also, does it have any understanding yet of the various shade-of-grey results? | 04:42 |
| SamB | poolie: hmm, I don't think using shades of gray is a good idea -- it might cause confusion between the light-on-darkers and the dark-on-lighters ;-P | 04:43 |
| poolie | mm thanks | 04:43 |
| lifeless | poolie: it knows skip | 04:43 |
| lifeless | it doesn't have wire representation for unexpected success or expected fail, IIRC. | 04:43 |
| poolie | subunit-filter --error includes UnavailableFeature | 04:43 |
| poolie | istm it should not | 04:43 |
| SamB | lifeless: those probably ought to be added, at least | 04:44 |
| SamB | poolie: yeah, you'd think those should count as skipped! | 04:44 |
| lifeless | I think my dirstate iter_changes branch will land happily now | 04:48 |
| lifeless | sending it in a bit | 04:49 |
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| lifeless | poolie: in the spirit of getting small things done as they happen - https://edge.launchpad.net/subunit - I've touched it up. | 05:08 |
| poolie | looks good | 05:14 |
| poolie | lifeless: would it be expected that the text_index for a 2a format holds one more key than in previous formats? | 05:36 |
| poolie | maybe for the root directory | 05:36 |
| poolie | re bug 408199 | 05:36 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 408199 in bzr "blackbox.test_check fails in 2a format" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/408199 | 05:36 |
| poolie | yes, apparently for the root | 05:36 |
| lifeless | poolie: all rich roots will, yes. | 05:37 |
| poolie | thought so, thanks | 05:37 |
| * lifeless enqueinates | 05:39 | |
| AfC | I love it when people look sophisticated looking words ... that get zero Google hits | 05:42 |
| lifeless | :) | 05:43 |
| AfC | And, of course, just when you're doing what should have been an oh-snap put down, you realize you totally blew it with a editing mistake. {sigh}. I hate the universe. | 05:44 |
| AfC | oh boy | 05:44 |
| AfC | s/a/an/ | 05:44 |
| * AfC slinks away in shame | 05:44 | |
| mwhudson | AfC: irc needs a feature that allows you to scrub stupid things you say from your readers' minds | 05:44 |
| lifeless | if it makes you feel better, I checked the spelling on the made up word thrice before using it. | 05:45 |
| AfC | mwhudson: the very earliest versions of ICQ chat at sent a-few-characters-at-a-time and backspace worked. | 05:45 |
| lifeless | hudson really is very pretty | 05:46 |
| AfC | My spelling got much better when I added an "Add all [red underlined misspelled words] to dictionary" feature to the spell checker. | 05:46 |
| AfC | My typing is awesome now. I love it. | 05:47 |
| mwhudson | lifeless: i really wish that project was called something else | 05:52 |
| lifeless | mwhudson: yeah, I can see that ;) | 05:53 |
| mwhudson | (my brother uses it at work too) | 05:53 |
| lifeless | Does he call his server, Michael? | 05:54 |
| mwhudson | i hope not | 05:54 |
| lifeless | it would be childishly entertaining | 05:54 |
| lifeless | poolie: yes, the mapping to subunit is partly subunit not being as rich as bzr is (fixable) but also partly the way bzr does its subunit output | 06:08 |
| lifeless | we should probably put a decorator TestResult to change missing deps to skips or something | 06:09 |
| lifeless | poolie: bug 123688 - use stopTestRun | 06:28 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 123688 in bzr "selftest leaves the last test showing" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/123688 | 06:28 |
| lifeless | I think its called 'done' in bzrlib at the moment | 06:28 |
| lifeless | but upstream python merged the feature as 'startTestRun' / 'stopTestRun' | 06:28 |
| poolie | that's called on the TestResult? | 06:28 |
| lifeless | yes | 06:28 |
| poolie | thanks | 06:28 |
| lifeless | if it isn't, we should make it so | 06:29 |
| lifeless | because its the right design :P) | 06:29 |
| poolie | mm | 06:36 |
| poolie | so it still feels a bit like whack-a-mole | 06:36 |
| poolie | but it's definitely good to have a standard interface for it | 06:37 |
| poolie | lifeless: you can read the diff in https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~mbp/bzr/selftest/+merge/9571 if you like | 06:38 |
| poolie | well, if you're lucky and the diffmonster put it there | 06:38 |
| poolie | i'd like, in a subunit gui or command line, to say | 06:43 |
| poolie | get all the tests whose failures look ~like this~ and run them again | 06:44 |
| lifeless | poolie: I wouldn't add the comment under done() | 06:53 |
| poolie | about the standard name? | 06:54 |
| lifeless | that just adds conflicts to resolve when merging a fixup to the right method name | 06:54 |
| lifeless | yeah | 06:54 |
| poolie | i'd care more about people understanding they're the same than getting one tiny conflict when changing the name | 06:54 |
| lifeless | in that case I'd use a docstring not a comment | 06:55 |
| poolie | for the sake of the generated api docs etc | 06:56 |
| poolie | or rather just because it's public documentation? | 06:57 |
| poolie | ok | 06:57 |
| lifeless | help(foo.done) / pydoc etc | 06:57 |
| lifeless | looking at the source is less common than looking at the objects, or the help on them | 06:57 |
| poolie | really? | 06:57 |
| poolie | not for me :) | 06:57 |
| poolie | anyhow i'll move it | 06:58 |
| poolie | i find i use pydoc much less than i did use similar things elsewhere | 06:58 |
| poolie | i'm not sure why | 06:58 |
| lifeless | because folk write comments ? :) | 06:59 |
| poolie | mm :) | 07:00 |
| poolie | i kind of feel it's because there's less of a static model | 07:00 |
| poolie | but, there is enough to generate some api docs | 07:00 |
| poolie | anyhow, it's a beer qn | 07:00 |
| lifeless | heh | 07:00 |
| lifeless | so, what are you thinking of subunit so far? | 07:00 |
| poolie | flaky but intriguing | 07:01 |
| poolie | in a nutshell | 07:01 |
| lifeless | well, thats better than horrible ;) | 07:01 |
| lifeless | poolie: isn't TestUIFactory new anyway ? :) | 07:08 |
| poolie | no, it's old | 07:10 |
| poolie | CannedInputUIFactory is new | 07:10 |
| lifeless | I thought tests used to use SilentUIFactory | 07:10 |
| poolie | imbw but i think they were both there | 07:10 |
| poolie | there is some cruft | 07:10 |
| poolie | thus the bug asking for more thinking and more cutting | 07:11 |
| lifeless | huh, 2007 | 07:11 |
| lifeless | there we go | 07:11 |
| lifeless | so, I've spent most of today playing whackamole on iter changes | 07:12 |
| lifeless | getting the last kinks out | 07:12 |
| poolie | k | 07:12 |
| lifeless | I hope to land it tomorrow am | 07:12 |
| poolie | well you know what i've been doing :) | 07:12 |
| poolie | so far all of them are pretty shallew | 07:12 |
| poolie | shallow* | 07:12 |
| poolie | but this may not last | 07:12 |
| lifeless | would you like to have lunch tomorrow? | 07:12 |
| poolie | otoh i haven't particularly been starting with the easy ones, so ... | 07:13 |
| poolie | i have lunch most days :-) | 07:13 |
| poolie | so yes :) | 07:13 |
| poolie | oh, with you? sure. | 07:13 |
| lifeless | o/~ welcome to pedanical o/~ | 07:13 |
| poolie | where? | 07:14 |
| lifeless | I was thinking chinese in epping | 07:14 |
| lifeless | but anywhere reachable is fine | 07:14 |
| poolie | sounds dangerous :/ | 07:14 |
| poolie | but actually that sounds fine | 07:14 |
| lifeless | feel free to file more bugs on subunit btw | 07:15 |
| poolie | i'll see you around 12 then | 07:15 |
| lifeless | I like bugs, they are a sign of users | 07:15 |
| poolie | i wonder how spiv got on? | 07:17 |
| lifeless | re 12 - cool | 07:17 |
| spiv | poolie: I have lunch most days too ;) | 07:17 |
| lifeless | that said, EOD time for me. | 07:21 |
| vila | hi all ! | 07:22 |
| lifeless | hi vila | 07:23 |
| poolie | hello vila, welcome back | 07:23 |
| vila | lifeless, poolie : thanks ! anything urgent ? | 07:24 |
| poolie | getting 2a stable :) | 07:24 |
| poolie | stable-er* | 07:24 |
| lifeless | other than working on the 2.0 targetted bugs | 07:25 |
| vila | ok | 07:25 |
| poolie | you could have a look at the six-month-release thread | 07:25 |
| poolie | it's not urgent as such but i want to know you're ok with it | 07:26 |
| lifeless | you might enjoy the subunit2junitxml + hudson stuff I did ;) | 07:28 |
| poolie | spiv, re bug 407834, do your changes add (or remove) a warning for inter-format fetch | 07:33 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 407834 in bzr "Branching MySQL too slow" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/407834 | 07:33 |
| poolie | i think i put one in at one point... | 07:33 |
| poolie | when i mean 're that bug' i'm not implying it's assigned to you | 07:35 |
| spiv | poolie: I don't think I've added or removed any warning there, not sure that there is one atm though. | 07:35 |
| GungaDin | How can I check the parent of a rev id? | 07:38 |
| GungaDin | or parents | 07:39 |
| poolie | lifeless: is bug 407834 a bug in its own right? ie can it plausibly be faster? | 07:39 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 407834 in bzr "Branching MySQL too slow" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/407834 | 07:39 |
| lifeless | it should be; the bugs on IDS, network deltas will make it faster | 07:42 |
| lifeless | hundreds or thousands of times faster I suspect | 07:42 |
| lifeless | spiv has timing data | 07:42 |
| spiv | I'm not sure if my network deltas patch will make much difference to the CPU cost, but it should massively reduce the network traffic (both bytes and roundtrips). | 07:48 |
| bob2 | hm, cd'ing to a svn checkout inside a bzr branch makes zsh's prompt stuff do bad things | 08:42 |
| GungaDin | I just did a really stupid thing... | 08:45 |
| GungaDin | and I need help. | 08:45 |
| GungaDin | I merged my local branch into trunk... | 08:45 |
| GungaDin | then uncommited that revision | 08:45 |
| GungaDin | then someone else committed something into trunk | 08:46 |
| GungaDin | and now I want to commit a change into my local branch and then merge into trunk... but I can't | 08:46 |
| GungaDin | when I try to merge into trunk I get: "bzr: ERROR: Tags not supported by BzrBranch5('file:///home/winnt/TIBRA/yaron.hirsch/Sources/tibra/COM-226/'); you may be able to use bzr upgrade." | 08:46 |
| GungaDin | any help please? | 09:22 |
| LarstiQ | GungaDin: ehm | 10:11 |
| LarstiQ | GungaDin: the tags error is unrelated to what you previously did | 10:11 |
| vila | lifeless: bzr.dev revno 4581 breaks --parallel=fork, is there some subunit pending merge I need that isn't found in lp:subunit ? | 10:42 |
| vila | lifeless: breakage is about expected failures and unavailable features\ | 10:42 |
| pigmej | Hey everyone | 10:56 |
| pigmej | Has anyone tried ClueBzrServer and/or ClueMapper with bzr ? | 10:56 |
| jml | lifeless, I'm in Dublin | 11:04 |
| vila | jml: welcome to my TZ :-) | 11:06 |
| jml | vila, thanks :) | 11:07 |
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| mityaj | hi! help me! why uploading data to master branch generate big traffic(over 10 MB) when commiting changes of little text file? | 11:14 |
| mityaj | why by uploading data to master branch does so much traffic generate transfer when I commit changes of short text file | 11:17 |
| LarstiQ | mityaj: what format/transport/version of bzr? | 11:18 |
| mityaj | LarstiQ: bzr 1.16 | 11:19 |
| LarstiQ | mityaj: you only answered 1/3rd of my question :P | 11:19 |
| mityaj | LarstiQ: sftp | 11:20 |
| mityaj | LarstiQ: Bazaar Branch Format 6 | 11:20 |
| LarstiQ | mityaj: the repository format is more importance, just `bzr info` should tell you | 11:21 |
| mityaj | LarstiQ: format: pack-0.92 | 11:21 |
| LarstiQ | mityaj: k | 11:21 |
| LarstiQ | mityaj: did you commit a merge? Or where you previously out of date with master? | 11:22 |
| LarstiQ | mityaj: sftp is a so called 'dumb' transport, so potentially reading the index files from the remote end is going to be a sizeable transfer too | 11:22 |
| mityaj | LarstiQ: What should I use instead of sftp? | 11:24 |
| LarstiQ | mityaj: or if a pack got performed | 11:24 |
| LarstiQ | mityaj: bzr+ssh://, but that requires bzr installed on the remote end | 11:25 |
| mityaj | LarstiQ: thank you, I'll try | 11:26 |
| lifeless | vila: no, e verything should be landed | 12:30 |
| lifeless | vila: (everything in subunit relevant to bzr parallel that is) | 12:30 |
| vila | lifeless: weird | 12:30 |
| lifeless | jml: theres a subunit patch up if you wanted to review it it would rock | 12:31 |
| jml | lifeless, sure thing. I'm probably going to stay in tonight, so I'll try to look at it then. | 12:31 |
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| lifeless | you might like the talk I gave at slug too | 12:37 |
| lifeless | theres an announce on the subunit lp page | 12:37 |
| vila | lifeless: http://paste.ubuntu.com/245975/ "fixes" the problem for me but it also lose the /nnnn in the progress bar :-/ | 12:41 |
| jml | vila, hey, since I'm in your timezone... | 12:52 |
| jml | vila, can you have a look at this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/408342 | 12:53 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 408342 in bzr "'bzr up' fails against a read-only remote, trying to create a write lock" [Undecided,New] | 12:53 |
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| === jurg is now known as jurg` | ||
| === jurg` is now known as jurg | ||
| vila | lifeless: did you see http://paste.ubuntu.com/245975/, digging deeper, I can confirm that ConcurrentTestSuite and CountingDecorator are incompatible because TextTestRunner.run explicitly tests isinstance(test, testtools.ConcurrentTestSuite) around line 600 | 13:07 |
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| DaffyDuck_ | I exported the netbsd sources, then ran "bzr init --2a" in the directory, "bzr add" and finallt "bzr commit -m 'Initial commit.'". I got a memory error. | 18:13 |
| DaffyDuck_ | So I increased process memory usage to 512MB, then I could add and commit the files. | 18:14 |
| DaffyDuck_ | ...but I can't branch it. I get some internal error. 512MB doesn't seem to be enough. | 18:14 |
| DaffyDuck_ | bazaar doesn't scale very well. :( | 18:15 |
| DaffyDuck_ | Is there anything one can do to make bazaar use less memory? | 18:16 |
| Kinnison | define "The netbsd sources" ? | 18:17 |
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| SamB | DaffyDuck_: prod the developers? | 18:45 |
| SamB | DaffyDuck_: I think it's a bit worse than usual at the moment ... some kind of major rejigging of how transfers are done? | 18:46 |
| SamB | DaffyDuck_: oh, and anyway that sounds like kind of a dumb thing to do -- wouldn't you want to import the history? | 18:47 |
| SamB | DaffyDuck_: btw ... what were the file count and total size of the tree you tried to import? | 18:48 |
| DaffyDuck_ | SamB: I don't really need the history. I'm developing something on a specific branch. | 19:01 |
| DaffyDuck_ | ..and it's about 99138 files. | 19:02 |
| DaffyDuck_ | It's just a plain "cvs export -r netbsd-5-0-RELEASE src", and nothing else. | 19:02 |
| LarstiQ | DaffyDuck_: so, what is that exactly? (ref Kinnison's "define netbsd sources") | 19:02 |
| LarstiQ | DaffyDuck_: kernel/base system/ports? | 19:02 |
| DaffyDuck_ | The entire system sources. | 19:03 |
| DaffyDuck_ | The src module, not including x or pkgsrc. | 19:03 |
| LarstiQ | ok | 19:03 |
| LarstiQ | DaffyDuck_: keep in mind we don't (necessarily) know netbsd :) | 19:03 |
| DaffyDuck_ | None the less, it's an excellent testcase for the bazaar developers. :) | 19:03 |
| LarstiQ | right, people have been known to version the gentoo/netbsd ports or entirey of Debian before | 19:04 |
| LarstiQ | DaffyDuck_: the thing about history would be that each commit is more reasonable than one humongous change | 19:05 |
| LarstiQ | DaffyDuck_: having said that, I think SamB is right about specifcally 2a needing some bits to be ironed out | 19:05 |
| DaffyDuck_ | The first problem appears to be a simple "out of memory" error. Increasing memory size helped. The second problem was a branching problem, which may also be a memory limit issue. The third actually looks like a mini-server (bzr+ssh) problem, but it may be a memory issue as well. | 19:06 |
| DaffyDuck_ | Should I file a complete bug report? | 19:06 |
| LarstiQ | DaffyDuck_: that sounds like 3 different ones, but yes please. The bug filing process should prompt you with similiar bugs (some of yours might already be filed) | 19:08 |
| LarstiQ | and if not, it is much easier to set dupes than to split a bug in pieces | 19:08 |
| DaffyDuck_ | Ah, good point. I'll file three bug reports. | 19:09 |
| DaffyDuck_ | Just out of curiosity, are there any (semi-)hidden options which dump relevant information useful to the bazaar developers? | 19:09 |
| LarstiQ | DaffyDuck_: what kind of information? `bzr info` and possibly `bzr -Derror` (info otherwise in ~/.bzr.log) for general information | 19:10 |
| LarstiQ | DaffyDuck_: `bzt dump-btree` is a hidden one specific to some formats, but I doubt you'll need that | 19:11 |
| DaffyDuck_ | OT: Is there a goo way to link from one PR to another in bug-thingie in launchpad? | 19:13 |
| LarstiQ | DaffyDuck_: linking bugs together? you can say 'bug 12355' and it will show up in the ui as a link | 19:16 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 12355 in xorg "Dell Optiplex GX100 only get 640x480 resolution with live cd (dup-of: 12248)" [Medium,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/12355 | 19:17 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 12248 in xorg "[i810] ddc sync ranges get lost in mode validation" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/12248 | 19:17 |
| LarstiQ | also, saying it in here will let ubottu give some info ;) | 19:17 |
| DaffyDuck_ | Aha! Excellent. Thanks! | 19:18 |
| jam | sidnei: just to let you know, I used 1.0rc8 on Kerguelen and everything seems to build | 19:30 |
| sidnei | jam: cool, thanks for letting me know | 19:31 |
| LarstiQ | jam: iirc you've done things about not holding huge files in memory at once, how about large inventory(deltas) like with DaffyDuck_ trying to commit all of netbsd src in one go? | 19:32 |
| jam | LarstiQ: so we should be holding a single copy of file content during commit for 2a format repos | 19:33 |
| jam | As for the large tree shape, etc | 19:33 |
| jam | I haven't really done memory profiling there | 19:33 |
| DaffyDuck_ | I'm writing a bug report with complete instructions on how to repliacte the problems I've encountered. | 19:34 |
| jam | sidnei: can you think of an easy way to have it put a build number into the final executables? | 19:36 |
| jam | so I can get "bzr -setup-1.17-1.exe ? | 19:36 |
| sidnei | jam: you could pass it on the command line? | 19:37 |
| jam | given the command is "make installer-all" I'm not sure what you would pass | 19:38 |
| jam | I'm happy to say at build time "this will be the -1" installer | 19:38 |
| jam | I just don't know how to get that info passed around | 19:38 |
| sidnei | jam: 'make installer-all BUILD_REVISION=-1' would work? | 19:39 |
| jam | yeah, probably be fine | 19:39 |
| sidnei | jam: ok, that's not too hard to do. | 19:40 |
| DaffyDuck_ | bug #408526, in case anyone wants to take a look at it. | 19:40 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 408526 in bzr "bzr commit on large projects require large amounts of memory" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/408526 | 19:40 |
| * SamB wonders why jelmer has all these imports at the beginning of cmd_svn_import.run ... | 20:14 | |
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| LarstiQ | SamB: I'm presuming because they're not shared and provide a import hit otherwise | 20:26 |
| SamB | actually, the main issue I have with it is how ugly it all is ;-) | 20:34 |
| LarstiQ | hmm? | 20:34 |
| SamB | LarstiQ: having all that stuff between the "def run(<args>):" and the actual code | 20:36 |
| SamB | that's kind of ugly | 20:36 |
| * LarstiQ looks up the cod | 20:37 | |
| LarstiQ | e | 20:37 |
| LarstiQ | that is a sizeable amount of imports | 20:38 |
| LarstiQ | SamB: have you looked at annotate/log for those lines? | 20:38 |
| SamB | say ... is it possible to have a RegistryOption that filters the registry? | 20:38 |
| SamB | LarstiQ: hmm, no ... | 20:38 |
| LarstiQ | SamB: on uglyness, I wish python module loading, and python interpreter startup was much faster | 20:39 |
| SamB | see, I want to allow specifying a repository format to bzr svn-import | 20:54 |
| SamB | I've got that working, but now "bzr help svn-import" lists a bunch of --<format> flags that aren't actually applicable | 20:54 |
| LarstiQ | ah | 20:55 |
| LarstiQ | SamB: those formats need to move out of the way anyway | 20:56 |
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| jam | sidnei: so I found a small problem with the build script. | 21:03 |
| jam | If you change the release version for a given plugin | 21:03 |
| jam | it *doesn't* properly update the 'release' directory | 21:03 |
| jam | (specifically, I did a build with bzr-rewrite-0.5.2 and then updated buildout.cfg to use 0.5.3 and the 'release' directory was still at 0.5.2) | 21:04 |
| jam | I *think* what I want is to delete all of the release directories before doing a new build | 21:04 |
| sidnei | jam: +1 | 21:04 |
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| jam | sidnei: so is this something that should be part of gf.release.bzr ? | 21:06 |
| jam | or should I just change the Makefile to do "rm -rf build-win32/*/release" ? | 21:06 |
| jam | (especially in ':strict' mode... :) | 21:08 |
| jam | also, when I build the python installers | 21:08 |
| jam | I delete the extra plugins | 21:08 |
| jam | I think I can mimic this by just changing the build order | 21:08 |
| sidnei | jam: do the latter for now. i have the impression that it should have detected the change and wiped the release directory, need to investigate. | 21:08 |
| jam | so that we build the python installers before we install the plugins | 21:09 |
| SamB | jam: wouldn't you still have to delete any that were already installed ? | 21:10 |
| jam | SamB: this is the build process, it is building into a new scratch dir | 21:10 |
| jam | so it only has things I've put there | 21:10 |
| sidnei | jam: that sounds right to me as well. | 21:10 |
| jam | I don't remove launchpad and netrc, just svn, etc. | 21:10 |
| jam | because they require that the python install location has lots of extra dependencies | 21:11 |
| jam | like PyQt or subversion libs | 21:11 |
| jam | and those aren't bundled, like the all-in-one installer | 21:11 |
| jam | sidnei: k | 21:11 |
| jam | so for now, I'll add an 'rm' call | 21:11 |
| jam | but I would like to understand why gf.recipe.bzr isn't doing that for me | 21:11 |
| SamB | hmm ... how do I have check_conversion_target give details as to why it failed ... | 21:12 |
| sidnei | jam: ok. i need to go away for some hours. i will come back with an answer tomorrow for you. | 21:14 |
| jam | np | 21:15 |
| SamB | oh, maybe that's not what's failing | 21:16 |
| jam | sidnei: have a good evening | 21:16 |
| jam | sidnei: I'm also now having problems re-running the script because of 'uninstall' issues again: | 21:27 |
| jam | """ | 21:27 |
| jam | While: | 21:27 |
| jam | Installing. | 21:27 |
| jam | Uninstalling bzr-rewrite. | 21:27 |
| jam | Error: Abort uninstalling, because of pending local changes. | 21:27 |
| jam | I'll see if it is my problem, though | 21:27 |
| jam | sidnei: a more complete traceback (when you get back): http://paste.ubuntu.com/246654/ | 21:28 |
| jam | It seems to be trying to access my default push target | 21:29 |
| jam | which certainly doesn't exist for this branch | 21:29 |
| jam | ah, it seems to be confused because I have a default push location for all branches | 21:32 |
| jam | but that branch certainly doesn't exist for the staging location | 21:32 |
| jam | and then it tries to do "bzr missing" but obviously there is nothing that can be done, because the other branch doesn't exist | 21:33 |
| jam | sidnei: adding this to my bazaar/locations.conf seemed to get it working again: http://paste.ubuntu.com/246661/ | 21:35 |
| jam | I would guess you'd want to handle this differently, though I guess I'm not positive to that effect. | 21:35 |
| krisives | Hi all :) | 21:36 |
| krisives | I have a website I want to put under version control. Would it be wrong to bzr init the public_html ? | 21:36 |
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| krisives | Anyone here? | 21:49 |
| vxnick | krisives: would you want others to be able to branch your website? | 21:50 |
| krisives | No, I wanted this to be internal | 21:51 |
| krisives | Well, other developers, yes. | 21:51 |
| vxnick | krisives: in that case, create the repo locally or out of the web root and then use something like bzr-upload to FTP the website to your server | 21:52 |
| jam | krisives: I personally version public_html | 21:57 |
| jam | and just tell Apache's config not to share .bzr | 21:57 |
| jam | bzr-upload is a reasonable way to do it, though | 21:57 |
| krisives | I want to version it on the host, since I have root access etc. | 21:59 |
| krisives | Will it create a .bzr inside each sub directory? | 21:59 |
| vxnick | nope | 21:59 |
| krisives | Thanks! | 22:04 |
| krisives | Can I .htaccess the .bzr directory without issue? | 22:04 |
| krisives | I think requiring basic HTTP auth will be okay for people who want to branch | 22:04 |
| vxnick | krisives: or you could branch using the SFTP transport instead of HTTP | 22:05 |
| vxnick | depends on how you want to do it really | 22:05 |
| Noldorin | hello | 22:06 |
| vxnick | hi | 22:06 |
| Noldorin | having some strange issues pushing a repo to an FTP server | 22:06 |
| Noldorin | http://pastebin.ca/1517195 | 22:06 |
| Noldorin | those are the error messages returned | 22:06 |
| vxnick | I've not encountered that before, but I'm guessing it'd be the FTP server software rather than bzr | 22:07 |
| Noldorin | vxnick: yeah, i thought so... | 22:07 |
| Noldorin | but i've double checked that all the permissions are set | 22:07 |
| Noldorin | so i'm not sure what could be wrong | 22:07 |
| vxnick | which permissions did you check? each line is providing two by the looks of it | 22:09 |
| Noldorin | vxnick: all of them. (including change permissions) | 22:09 |
| vxnick | afraid i'm not sure then | 22:09 |
| vxnick | the only thing I can suggest doing is going through the FTP server config to see if there's any compatibility mode you can enable, or similar | 22:10 |
| Noldorin | vxnick: good idea. it's probably a longshot, but worth checking | 22:11 |
| vxnick | good luck with it | 22:11 |
| Noldorin | heh, cheers. | 22:13 |
| krisives | If I bzr ignore a directory will it ignore it's children? | 22:22 |
| Noldorin | krisives: yes | 22:22 |
| krisives | Okay, because I am doing this on production and some directories will have lots of user-made files inside them. bzr will not bother scanning it if ignored, right? | 22:22 |
| Noldorin | yeah, it won't even display them in the status list | 22:23 |
| krisives | I love bzr! | 22:23 |
| vxnick | same :) | 22:23 |
| Noldorin | :) | 22:23 |
| krisives | I don't waste time figuring out cryptic erorr statuses or lockings | 22:24 |
| Noldorin | i hate bzr at the moment... but i'll love it again once this issue is fixed | 22:24 |
| Noldorin | (honestly, it's probably the ftp server's fault) | 22:24 |
| krisives | Maybe I can help, I have done some stuff with bzr on restricted hosts (GoDaddy) | 22:24 |
| krisives | (Although I assume you're idling in here you must know more than me) | 22:24 |
| krisives | Reading your issues above, one sec | 22:25 |
| Noldorin | krisives: not exactly :) i'm happing to take suggestions from you | 22:25 |
| Noldorin | krisives: i get the following errors when trying to push: v | 22:25 |
| Noldorin | http://pastebin.ca/1517195 | 22:25 |
| krisives | Is it wrong to just delete the lock file (assuming only one person is using it) btw? | 22:26 |
| krisives | I like your username on the FTP ;) | 22:26 |
| vxnick | I've done it a few times with no ill effect | 22:26 |
| krisives | Noldorin: can you CHMOD normally with this FTP? | 22:27 |
| Noldorin | krisives: my username? | 22:28 |
| Noldorin | krisives: erm, i shuold really check that now | 22:28 |
| krisives | Noldorin: "pos@213.175.198.12" | 22:28 |
| Noldorin | krisives: see the end of the previous line ;) | 22:28 |
| Noldorin | line-wrap | 22:28 |
| krisives | oh, lol | 22:28 |
| Noldorin | heh | 22:29 |
| krisives | It's possible that the FTP is using some kind of file system that doesn't support permissions :-/ | 22:29 |
| krisives | (FAT32) | 22:29 |
| Noldorin | krisives: the site manager for my web host displays unix-like permissions | 22:29 |
| Noldorin | so i doubt it | 22:29 |
| krisives | If you're in *nix you could try a CHMOD with the `ftp` program to get more details on what happened | 22:29 |
| Noldorin | i'm on vista | 22:30 |
| Noldorin | erm, the server is windows though. | 22:30 |
| krisives | What do you use to modify the permissions? | 22:30 |
| Noldorin | even though it seems to have unix permissions | 22:30 |
| krisives | Filezilla? | 22:30 |
| Noldorin | yeah | 22:30 |
| Noldorin | Command:SITE CHMOD 755 repos | 22:31 |
| Noldorin | Response:500 'SITE CHMOD 755 repos': command not understood | 22:31 |
| Noldorin | from filezilla | 22:31 |
| Noldorin | hrm | 22:31 |
| krisives | Seems like your host has CHMOD disabled | 22:32 |
| Noldorin | silliness | 22:32 |
| krisives | Try removing the execute | 22:32 |
| Noldorin | it's a paid host | 22:32 |
| krisives | Maybe they just don't let you set execution rights | 22:32 |
| Noldorin | so i'd hope i can enable it still | 22:32 |
| Noldorin | yeah | 22:32 |
| lifeless | vila: what is the url to your buildbot? | 22:32 |
| krisives | Indeed, should be able to do this on almost any host | 22:32 |
| Noldorin | storm internet is the host in case you are familiar... | 22:33 |
| krisives | Try chmoding as 664 | 22:34 |
| krisives | That's R/W but no X | 22:34 |
| Noldorin | krisives: ok | 22:34 |
| krisives | If you're looking for a good cheap host I use these guys and they installed bzr on the server for me: http://holeinthewallhosting.com/ ($10/year) | 22:35 |
| krisives | http://67.43.13.30/~kives/test.php is their PHP info | 22:35 |
| Noldorin | krisives: same error unfortunately | 22:35 |
| krisives | I haven't got around to testing it fully yet though | 22:35 |
| krisives | Hmm, I would contact them and find out why you can't CHMOD | 22:36 |
| Noldorin | krisives: thanks. unfortunatley i use asp.net though | 22:36 |
| Noldorin | yeah | 22:36 |
| Noldorin | will do | 22:36 |
| krisives | It's possible they setup the account with the wrong permissions | 22:36 |
| krisives | Some Windows hosts don't have permissions either :-/ | 22:37 |
| Noldorin | that would be major fail | 22:38 |
| Noldorin | krisives: i've just emailed my web host... have to see what they say | 22:51 |
| krisives | Good luck :) | 22:51 |
| Noldorin | they've replied promptly and helpfully in the past | 22:51 |
| Noldorin | so hopefully it will be good news | 22:51 |
| Noldorin | krisives: heh thanks :) | 22:51 |
| Noldorin | appreciate your help anyway | 22:51 |
| krisives | What are you using BZR for, just curious? | 22:51 |
| krisives | I am just curious* | 22:52 |
| Noldorin | krisives: hosting my IRC bot code :) | 22:52 |
| Noldorin | though i plan to use it for hosting all my projects eventually | 22:52 |
| Noldorin | krisives: i chose the web host for other reasons though mainly (ASP.NET support for example) | 22:54 |
| poolie | hi all; hi jam | 23:04 |
| krisives | Noldorin: Why ASP.NET anyhow? | 23:07 |
| Noldorin | krisives: i'm a .NET developer, and i've learnt to love it :) | 23:07 |
| Noldorin | it's what i know well | 23:07 |
| Noldorin | the AJAX framework is cool too | 23:07 |
| krisives | Noldorin: Have you ever used MONO? | 23:08 |
| krisives | It's available on Linux hosts | 23:08 |
| Noldorin | krisives: yes, a bit | 23:08 |
| Noldorin | krisives: the ASP.NET support isn't great though | 23:08 |
| krisives | I can understand if you're committed to .NET though | 23:08 |
| Noldorin | certainly no entities framework | 23:08 |
| Noldorin | yeah | 23:08 |
| Noldorin | i'm a bit of an MS guy still :P | 23:08 |
| Noldorin | even though i admire the mono project | 23:08 |
| Noldorin | i've even taken a close look at it | 23:09 |
| Noldorin | certain parts | 23:09 |
| krisives | Using bzr on windows pretty legit? Never done it myself | 23:09 |
| Noldorin | legit? | 23:09 |
| Noldorin | of course | 23:09 |
| Noldorin | they release a version for windows lol :) | 23:09 |
| Noldorin | krisives: i've host bzr repos on another ftp account of mine for a long time | 23:11 |
| mobodo | what's the easiest way to provide browsing from the web to a bzr repository? | 23:21 |
| mobodo | (browsing as in from the web) | 23:22 |
| mwhudson | mobodo: loggerhead | 23:23 |
| mobodo | mwhudson: I looked at loggerhead, but I was under the impression that I'd need admin access to the web server, am I wrong? | 23:23 |
| mwhudson | you only need admin access if you want to put it behind the apache or whatever | 23:24 |
| mwhudson | (but this would be true of absolutely anything) | 23:24 |
| mobodo | where else would I want to put it? | 23:25 |
| mobodo | loggerhead will run its own server, right? | 23:25 |
| mwhudson | yes, in that it talks http on a port you provide | 23:27 |
| mobodo | mwhudson: that's pretty much what I mean by "I was under the impression that I'd need admin access to the web server" | 23:28 |
| mobodo | I'm not going to run a daemon on a shared server, let alone run it on port 80 | 23:29 |
| mwhudson | mobodo: so i'm unsure what answer i could give you that you'd be happy with | 23:29 |
| mobodo | :) | 23:29 |
| mobodo | I was wondering if there's a cgi script that will let me browser a .bzr | 23:30 |
| mwhudson | oh right, cgi | 23:30 |
| mobodo | like you can do with cvs/svn | 23:30 |
| mobodo | yup | 23:30 |
| mwhudson | not aware of any cgi scripts for that no | 23:30 |
| mobodo | alrighty | 23:30 |
| mwhudson | the 1990s are calling, they want their tech back :) | 23:30 |
| mobodo | huh? | 23:32 |
| RenatoSilva | verterok: hi | 23:35 |
| mobodo | bazaar is totally awesome btw. I had been looking for a while for a version control system that would work over generic http | 23:35 |
| mobodo | it's perfect for distributed anonymous development | 23:36 |
| mwhudson | mobodo: sorry | 23:36 |
| mwhudson | mobodo: just trying to joke that cgi isn't an often requested thing these days | 23:36 |
| mobodo | mwhudson: ahh :) see, that's how deep in it I am for not even getting the joke | 23:37 |
| andresj | hello, is there a way to tell bzr to use ./adir/.bzr as its directory instead of ./.bzr ? | 23:52 |
| krisives | I also am interested in the answer to that | 23:54 |
| krisives | As it would be nice to have my public_html/.bzr just be ../.bzr | 23:54 |
| andresj | my case is actually, in a way, backwards. I have a directory /my/site which i cannot modify. However, I can modify /home/public, /home/private, and /home/protected. I want to have these directories version-controlled, and use ./private/.bzr as my repo dir | 23:56 |
| beuno | krisives, your case is easy, just have a public_html dir as your top level | 23:58 |
| beuno | andresj, I don't think you can change bzr's location | 23:58 |
| krisives | beuno: Won't the .bzr be in public_html/.bzr though? | 23:58 |
| andresj | beuno: hum... any suggestions, then? :D | 23:58 |
| krisives | beuno: I see, I thought it would put the .bzr into the public_html if it was versioned | 23:59 |
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