[00:26]  * JontheEchidna grabs some patches from the kde-qt git repo
[00:34] <shtylman> Riddell: someone will need to look at making a set of slides for Kubuntu ... should I look into that? or do we have someone better for that (I hope we do)...
[01:25] <seele> ScottK: was going to try and get you to the pirate bar last night.. but you must have been sleeping already ;P
[01:27] <maco> seele: if you go to linuxchix tell 'em im sorry i couldnt come, but i have to go into the office all this week and itd take me til 9pm to reach silver spring if i leave work at 530
[02:49] <nixternal> hrmm. guess I didn't reboot the other day but accidentally shut down :/
[03:14] <seele> maco: what linux chix?
[03:16] <seele> oh wow.. caught by spam filter. that's the first time that's happened
[03:19] <seele> maco: it looks like it is in college park this time because piratz is closed on mondays
[03:19] <seele> maco: if i go, i probably wont make it until 9 because i have aikido
[03:23] <maco> i reach dc at 8 so anything maryland...9
[03:24] <seele> bummer.. i didnt even see the meeting planning email come out.. stupid spam filter
[03:25] <maco> how long've you been doing aikido?
[03:50] <seele> maco: 3 months, hehe
[03:54] <maco> is that one of those high-impact marshal arts?
[03:54] <maco> martial
[03:55] <maco> or is it something someone horrendously out of shape can manage?
[04:18] <seele> maco: no, it's soft.. not hard like karate
[04:18] <seele> maco: definitely, although you'll be in pain the first month just from using muscles you've never used before, hehe
[04:52] <harolddong> I'm using the last 4.3 RC where did the gtk theme controls go? They used to be in system settings but now arent and most gtk apps looks dreadful
[07:44] <jussi01> Hrm, is there not a way we can sort the authentication for ppa's with a single command (something along the lines of what medibuntu does?). I hate fidling with gui's and would be nice if a command was given... :D
[08:37] <gorgonzola> hello, i have a terrific idea for a workaround for this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/369042, but i need help implementing it. anyone here up for the task? some knowledge of acpi/hal required... (i was sent here from #kubuntu :P)
[08:37] <gorgonzola> i'll propose anyway: the thing is that suspend and resume fail with current fglrx drivers on some cards, with desktop effects enabled. It ocurred to me that it should be possible to disable desktop effects immediately prior to suspension and reenable them after resume, using acpi or hal events... but i don't know where to begin.
[08:37] <gorgonzola> help?
[08:38] <mgraesslin> gorgonzola: I like the idea
[08:39] <mgraesslin> I am not really familiar with the suspend/resume architecture, but KWin offers a DBus interface to suspend/resume compositing
[08:39] <gorgonzola> mgreasslin : well, it is a horrible hack, but until ati releases a real fix, i don't think of any other possibility to enjoy dekstop effects
[08:39] <gorgonzola> aaaha, excellent, thats one of the things i was looking up
[08:39] <mgraesslin> the only important part is to delay the resume compositing enough
[08:40] <mgraesslin> as in worst case it would just be suspended again as everything is too slow
[08:40] <gorgonzola> although in my experience, dbus is terribly unfriendly... dcop was much more... pedagogic
[08:40] <gorgonzola> mmm
[08:40] <gorgonzola> i guess that could be managed witha sleep in the script
[08:41] <gorgonzola> and some tuning to see how much to delay it
[08:41] <gorgonzola> thanks for th tip
[08:41] <mgraesslin> sleep I guess is a bad idea
[08:41] <mgraesslin> as that could be blocking
[08:41] <gorgonzola> well, i'm a terrible bash scripter... but i can get help with that
[08:41] <gorgonzola> ok, so dbus for the actual desktop effects part,
[08:42] <gorgonzola> now... should i look into hal events, or acpi events?
[08:42] <mgraesslin> no idea :-)
[08:42] <gorgonzola> damn
[08:42] <gorgonzola> the documentation page is for dapper (!)
[08:42] <mgraesslin> have a look at powerdevil
[08:42] <gorgonzola> yeah, i already did
[08:42] <gorgonzola> it has hooks to profile loading
[08:43] <gorgonzola> but i didn't find any for the actual actions
[08:43] <gorgonzola> i don't know where i saw hooks for pre suspend and after resume...
[08:43] <gorgonzola> well, i guess i'll have to learn acpi :S
[08:46] <gorgonzola> mmm, apparently everything is done with dbus, talking to hal...
[09:22] <Riddell> morning
[09:23] <jussi01> morning Riddell
[09:30] <Riddell> coming live from Dublin
[09:31] <Quintasan> Hi Riddell
[10:16]  * jussi01 sighs... someone broke pioneers... leastways its broke for me here :(
[11:49] <ghostcube> T -12 hrs
[11:49] <ghostcube> -_-
[14:00] <JontheEchidna> dpm: bug 203349 should be fixed by now in all languages, correct?
[14:01] <JontheEchidna> I would imagine that between the committing of the fix all of the langpacks have been updated
[14:04] <neversfelde> plasma-widget-plasmaboard has a new upstream release 0.6, 0.51 is in the archives, seems that it was a typo by upstream, should have been 0.5.1. How do we upgrade that package now?
[14:05] <a|wen-work> we are bold and calls it 0.60 ... and hope they'll reach 1.0 very quick (before we want to sync with debian)
[14:05] <neversfelde> :)
[14:06] <neversfelde> he plans to get it in kdeplasma-addons for 4.4
[14:06] <a|wen-work> at least that way we want have an epoch...
[14:06] <a|wen-work> when that happens we are safe :)
[14:13] <Quintasan> hmm, anyone got Radeon HD3450?
[14:15] <ghostcube> i need and new nvidia any suggestions :D
[14:16] <Riddell> rdieter: did you and _Sime work out wherr pykdeuic should be installed?
[14:17] <rdieter> Riddell: haven't heard from him (yet)
[14:20] <neversfelde> bug 408372 needs a sponsor, I forgot to mention the bug number in the changelog, will set it to fix released manually after it is uploaded
[14:20] <Riddell> Tonio_: "kdesudo: Release and tag 3.4.2-1" just for your information
[14:20] <OdyX> Riddell: we prepared this new tarball together :->
[14:21] <OdyX> Tonio_: it has been accepted in Debian just now
[14:21] <Riddell> super
[14:21] <Riddell> neversfelde: let me get hat
[14:21] <Riddell> that
[14:22] <Tonio_> Riddell: I uploaded it so I know :)
[14:22] <Riddell> neversfelde: should we be looking to replace kvkbd with this?
[14:23] <Riddell> neversfelde: uploaded, I even added the bug number to the changelog
[14:24] <neversfelde> Riddell: I never had a look at kvkbd, I will compare both and send a mail to the devel list
[14:24] <Riddell> great thanks
[14:46] <neversfelde> Riddell: bilbo is now in the new queue, so if you have some time, it would be great if you could have a look
[14:56] <Riddell> neversfelde: my archive admin day tomorrow, 4.3.0 packaging takes priority today
[14:57] <neversfelde>  ok, I think this can wait until tomorrow :)
[15:04] <JontheEchidna> bug 408398 needs sponsoring, if a main sponsor is free
[15:05] <JontheEchidna> (fixes bug 351390)
[15:05] <JontheEchidna> the upstream bug watch task is showing up as fixed there^
[15:07] <JontheEchidna> also bug 351628, it seems
[15:09] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: onto it
[15:26] <JontheEchidna> The new NM trayapp has a lot of sweet features too
[15:27] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: hmm, I can't actually list the available access points in this knetworkmanager version
[15:28] <JontheEchidna> oh :(
[15:28] <dpm> JontheEchidna: re: bug 203349, I'm going to have a look at this. I have to talk to ArneGoetje to confirm, but I think this should be solved in the new jaunty language packs we're going to release soon
[15:29] <JontheEchidna> dpm: eh, I think that's more for intrepid. should've been fixed in jaunty from day one
[15:30] <dpm> JontheEchidna: oh, ok, I just read too quickly, I was just having a look at the dates of the last comments
[15:31] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: can you get a list of access points from the applet menu?
[15:31] <JontheEchidna> Riddell: wired here
[15:31] <Riddell> oh aye
[15:32] <JontheEchidna> might be a good idea to get a ppa for testing
[15:32] <JontheEchidna> perhaps upload to kubuntu-experimental for karmic
[15:32] <Riddell> yeah can do, I just used my ~jr one
[15:38] <neversfelde> Bug #408408 needs a sponsor
[15:38]  * JontheEchidna can take that
[17:18]  * Riddell removes everything from kde-i18n-xx except quanta
[17:18] <Riddell> ~twitter update in Dublin
[17:18] <kubotu> status updated
[17:46] <momesana> hi
[17:46] <momesana> I've just downloaded and written karmic to a disc and am wondering why it boots ubuntu instead of kubuntu. What's wrong?
[17:51] <a|wen> momesana: sounds like you downloaded ubuntu instead of kubuntu ... where did you download the iso?
[17:51] <momesana> a|wen: yes, just realized that
[17:51] <a|wen> :)
[17:52] <momesana> where do I get a kubuntu release ... I can't find a karmic subdir on kubuntu mirrors
[17:52] <momesana> http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/
[17:53] <neversfelde> there is no karmic?
[17:53] <momesana> neversfelde: evidently not
[17:55] <a|wen> momesana: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/
[17:55] <a|wen> most mirrors doesn't contain development releases of kubuntu
[17:56] <momesana> a|wen: thanks a lot
[17:56] <a|wen> yw
[18:03] <bmunger> the plasma widget network manager is getting some work i see
[18:49] <Quintasan> hmm, python and ruby plasmoids are not working for me :/
[19:06] <seele> Riddell: are you on kde-core-devel? there is a question about system-config-printer
[19:36] <einalex> nemphis: can you remember how you fixed this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-de.org-website/+bug/299196
[19:38] <einalex> nemphis: I get the same error with my drupal + mediawiki installation and would like to get a hint on how to fix it
[19:39] <nemphis> einalex: yes, just a moment. i search for the diff ;)
[19:39] <einalex> thank you :)
[19:40] <einalex> the bugreport has no info on that attached..so i had to bug you ;)
[19:40] <nemphis> einalex: no problem :)