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[01:37] <Scienceman123> Bug 408095 should be tagged as wishlist, please
[01:37] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 408095 in gnome-settings-daemon ""Disable touchpad while typing" should ignore modifier keys when monitoring keyboard activity" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/408095
[01:40] <hggdh> Scienceman123, can you please explain why (I see no other comments in the bug)?
[01:40]  * hggdh is not against, just would like some reasoning
[01:40] <lifeless> I'm very for
[01:40] <lifeless> hggdh: 'ctrl-click'
[01:41] <lifeless> or do mean, reason for wishlist?
[01:41] <hggdh> lifeless, yes. I would rather not move to wish without a comment
[01:41] <hggdh> every change in status should have a comment explaining why
[01:42] <Scienceman123> It is not a regression
[01:42] <lifeless> Scienceman123: you sure about that?
[01:42] <Scienceman123> And it does not fail to do something it should
[01:42] <Scienceman123> It's a "It would sure be nice if" kind of thing
[01:43] <Scienceman123> it seems
[01:43] <lifeless> its also got a solution in it.
[01:43] <lifeless> I suggest turning it into a patch and moving on.
[01:43] <Scienceman123> Ok then
[01:43] <Scienceman123> Sorry, I'm new
[01:43] <hggdh> Scienceman123, I am not arguing it. It is just that blind change in status should not happen. You have a good reason, so you should comment in explaining it. And I will be extremely happy to change it.
[01:43] <hggdh> Scienceman123, no problems, and we are glad you are helping
[01:44] <lifeless> indeed
[01:44] <hggdh> lifeless, +1
[01:53] <hggdh> arghh. Hotel connections really suck :-(
[01:56] <hggdh> ah well. Scienceman123 has left the building. I will add the patch
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[07:36] <thekorn> good morning!
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[14:52] <bddebian> Boo
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[16:57] <Lademord> Can somebody please tag bug 253465 with verification-done? I cant figure it out
[16:57] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 253465 in daemontools "[SRU] daemontools-run needs to work with upstart" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/253465
[17:00] <micahg> You can click Update Description/Tags and add i, Lademord
[17:14] <yvan300> hello all, well i am kinda new to this and would like to know a good starting point for a noobm and please don't refer me to the wiki
[17:16] <hggdh> yvan300, heh. Allright, I will not refer you to the wiki. But I *do* ask: have you read it?
[17:16] <yvan300> hggdh: more or less, but what i really want to know is what do you recommend that i start to do first
[17:17] <hggdh> yvan300, OK. more or less sounds good ;-)
[17:17] <yvan300> hggdh: so what should i do then?
[17:17] <hggdh> yvan300, I understand you want to triage bugs, right?
[17:18] <hggdh> (after all, this is what we do in this channel)
[17:18] <yvan300> hggdh: that's the point , i don't know wht to do, i just want to help and thus i need guidance
[17:18] <hggdh> yvan300, we will guide you, no problems
[17:19] <yvan300> hggdh: ok so what to do first then?
[17:19] <hggdh> yvan300, go to https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/ , and select -- say -- "newest first", anc lcik on the search buttom
[17:20] <yvan300> what now hggdh
[17:21] <hggdh> then look at the bugs that will be shown. Select one you feel comfortable (or *less* uncomfortable), and try to see if it explains the issue, has the data needed, etc
[17:21] <hggdh> You *may* not feel comfortable with any of them; in this case, just get the next page, and try again
[17:22] <hggdh> when you find one you want to work on, start, and ask here in case of doubts
[17:22] <yvan300> hggdh: do i need to know any programming to solve these, i am currently learning python
[17:23] <hggdh> yvan300, no, not necessarily. But you really should look at some of the wiki pages (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/KnowledgeBase comes to mind)
[17:23] <hggdh> you can, if you want, fix on the python packages. It is up to you, and we will still be glad you are helping
[17:24] <yvan300> hggdh: ok thanks for your help :D
[17:24] <hggdh> triage is the first step: we must understand what the issue is (if indeed is an issue), *then* we can try to solve it
[17:24] <hggdh> yvan300, you are welcome. Again, please do not hesitate to ask for help
[17:25] <yvan300> hggdh: i will keep that in mind
[17:25] <hggdh> thank you. And thank you for helping
[17:28] <yvan300> hggdh: can you run me through how you would tipically fix a bug
[17:30] <yvan300> hggdh: sorry found a tut in the wiki
[17:40] <hggdh> yvan300, we will be here, anyway ;-)
[17:41] <hggdh> but, please keep in mind that *before* one can fix a problem, the problem must be understood... and this is where triaging pops up
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[17:55] <plars> someone feel like taking a look at this bug?  I'm not sure if it's an issue with some post-removal scripts in tomboy/fspot, or if it's with dpkg, or both
[17:55] <plars> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/403726
[17:55] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 403726 in f-spot "package f-spot 0.5.0.3-1ubuntu6 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 139" [Undecided,New]
[17:58] <hggdh> plars, difficult to say, all I can see is that something got a segfault
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[20:21] <BUGabundo> hey