[09:53] <asac> hi
[11:29] <gnomefreak> asac: with SM2 i guess in beta they named it 2.0_2.1 sort of like SM1 1.1.x  so its still 2.0
[11:32] <asac> hmm
[11:32] <asac> not sure
[11:32] <asac> sounds odd
[11:32] <asac> gnomefreak: why do you think its a problem?
[11:32] <gnomefreak> asac: i thought the same but the 2.0 made me think that
[11:32] <asac> actually ... why do you think that they have such an odd version
[11:32] <gnomefreak> asac: i was hoping to build 2.0
[11:33] <gnomefreak> asac: 1.1.x i was thinking they would follow that versioning
[11:33] <gnomefreak> but the whole beta part makes me not sure
[11:34] <gnomefreak> i cant remember before 1.1.x if it was 1.0
[11:36] <gnomefreak> im going for a smoke and make coffee. let me know what you think (iwould rather stick with 2.0 before i move to 2.1 but not real sure how they name it anymore.
[11:44] <gnomefreak> asac: that is unless m-d adds the 2.0_ part of the 2.0_2.1 part of tarball. i have to try and fix coffee pot damnit
[13:04] <gnomefreak> kklimonda: ok heard back from upstream author for firegpg i will fix and update it when either the next release or the one after. That is when upstream plans to fix some other needed bug fixes.
[13:32] <gnomefreak> !password
[14:28] <gnomefreak> VeXaToR: what is the problem again?
[14:28] <gnomefreak> 3.5.3~hg20090801r26185+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd1 doesnt give me a problem on youtube or myspace
[14:29] <VeXaToR> gnomefreak, Hi, videos are slow in shiretoko.
[14:29] <gnomefreak> VeXaToR: what flash are you using?
[14:29] <VeXaToR> gnomefreak, Where can I check?
[14:29] <gnomefreak> VeXaToR: apt-cache policy flashplugin-installer
[14:29] <gnomefreak> VeXaToR: 32bit or 64bit?
[14:30] <VeXaToR> gnomefreak, 32 I guess.
[14:30] <gnomefreak> you guess?
[14:30] <VeXaToR> gnomefreak,  flashplugin-installer:
[14:30] <VeXaToR>   Installiert: 10.0.22.87ubuntu2
[14:31] <gnomefreak> VeXaToR: apt-cache policy nspluginwrapper
[14:31] <VeXaToR> gnomefreak, not installed.
[14:31] <gnomefreak> VeXaToR: give me 2 websites that are slow for you please
[14:32] <gnomefreak> !info flashplugin-installer jaunty
[14:46] <asac> VeXaToR: antoher one is mozilla-plugin-gnash
[14:46] <VeXaToR> gnomefreak, How do I remove?
[14:46] <VeXaToR> asac, Not installed. :)
[14:46] <gnomefreak> asac: has the removal bug in gnash been fixed?
[14:46] <gnomefreak> VeXaToR: sudo apt-get remove swfdec-mozilla
[14:46] <asac> gnomefreak: removal bug?
[14:46] <gnomefreak> asac: perm bug. to be sure exavtly i would have to look it up
[14:47] <gnomefreak> asac: its the perm or post removal script
[14:48] <VeXaToR> gnomefreak, asac, awesome! Thank you. :)
[14:48] <asac> welcome
[14:48] <VeXaToR> gnomefreak, asac, it works just fine now.
[14:48] <asac> VeXaToR: one second
[14:48] <asac> VeXaToR: you can actually have multiple flash players installed and then use tools -> manage content plugins
[14:49] <asac> to switch them on the fly if you are on a site with flash ;)
[14:49] <gnomefreak> gnash is free why would we have swfdec (its been known to have issues IIRC
[14:49] <asac> anyway. i guess you dont want that ... so enjoy
[14:49] <asac> gnomefreak: its yet another alternative. ubuntu as the distro does not decide which alternatives to put in the archive
[14:50] <gnomefreak> ah
[14:50] <VeXaToR> asac, Thx! I try to run as easy as possible. I don't get all that stuff. :)
[14:50] <asac> we only decide what gets insatlled by default
[14:50] <gnomefreak> asac: there are 3 bugs that i see for gnash issue. bug 398213 is the one i was thinking of
[14:51] <gnomefreak> and the other 2 are post removale
[14:51] <gnomefreak> removal
[14:52] <gnomefreak> as i recall same problem with removal
[14:53] <VeXaToR> Cu l8r.
[14:55] <gnomefreak> bug 344019
[14:57] <gnomefreak> wht the hell did we do to update-alternatives that is causing all these bugs on it
[14:58] <gnomefreak> "we" as in Ubuntu
[15:00] <gnomefreak> ok today is over for me at least for a few hours.
[16:17] <fta> ff 3.6 regressed
[16:18] <asac> jdstrand: seems we need nss in the -security ppa before we can actually build xulrunner :(
[16:19] <asac> so tomorrow monring QA on nss/nspr?
[16:19] <asac> jdstrand: or do you have the VMs ready so we can do a quick check?
[16:20] <asac> fta: which way?
[16:22] <fta> asac, several.. the text selection i've already mentioned, some bad rendering (for ex the ubuntu forums sometimes are not rendered at all until i force a repaint by scrolling up and down)
[16:22] <fta> the sound is broken once again, locking up the browser
[16:23] <fta> it takes 20%~40% cpu even when idle
[16:24] <fta> all form fields have artifacts, but it suspect it's gtk
[16:24] <fta> (or the darkroom theme)
[16:32] <asac> hmm
[16:32] <asac> fta: lets wait till tomorrow and hope that there is some major rework going on that will cure things when getting closer to finish
[16:33] <fta> most are several weeks old
[16:44] <asac> bdrung: was there anything I failed to commit?
[16:44] <asac> (-devscripts)
[17:14] <bdrung> asac: yes, the latest development status. i will create a branch for it and push it to lp, if you like.
[17:24] <asac> bdrung: what features are added
[17:24] <asac> ?
[17:24] <asac> the sol eol stuff?
[17:24] <bdrung> asac: yes.
[17:25] <bdrung> asac: to make it perfect we need a debian package versioning policy, to be ably to specify limits like firefox-3.0 (>> 3.0.9)
[17:25] <asac> bdrung: yeah that would be great then. i think we should somehow document what version to add ;)
[17:25] <asac> e.g. what to choose for sol ;)
[17:26] <asac> bdrung: ah right.
[17:26] <asac> bdrung: lets get this committed and i can then open discussion with the debian folks ;)
[17:26] <bdrung> asac: for sol i would use the lowest version that hits the archive
[17:26] <asac> bdrung: you are subscribed to debian mozilla lists now?
[17:26] <bdrung> asac: yes
[17:26] <asac> bdrung: ok. lets do that then
[17:26] <asac> lowest version that hit the archive
[17:27] <bdrung> asac: maybe we should rename the mozcmp tool to "moz-version" and use it like "moz-version --compare 1.0 lt 2.0".
[17:28] <bdrung> asac: then we could add features like "moz-version --transform" which would transform 2.0a1 to 2.0~a1
[17:29] <asac> bdrung: would be fine with me
[17:29] <asac> sounds like a plan
[17:30] <bdrung> asac: ok, i will do it and push it to lp "when it's done" (TM). :)
[17:36] <asac> thx
[17:42] <bdrung> asac: how about making MOZ_EXTENSION_PKG optional? if this variable is empty, we could use the first binary package listed in debian/control, couldn't we?
[17:43] <asac> bdrung: probably right
[17:44] <bdrung> asac: ok, i add this to my todo list.
[17:44] <asac> bdrung: yeah. i would like to get 0.14 out ... 0.15 will still be in karmic, so i would suggest to add that for that
[17:44] <bdrung> asac: ok
[17:49] <bdrung> packages_{ec8030f7-c20a-464f-9b0e-13a3a9e97384} := abrowser-3.0 abrowser-3.5 abrowser-3.6 firefox-3.0 firefox-3.5 firefox-3.6 iceweasel
[17:49] <bdrung> packages_{3550f703-e582-4d05-9a08-453d09bdfdc6} := icedove thunderbird thunderbird-3.0
[17:49] <bdrung> packages_{92650c4d-4b8e-4d2a-b7eb-24ecf4f6b63a} := seamonkey
[17:49] <bdrung> packages_{a79fe89b-6662-4ff4-8e88-09950ad4dfde} := conkeror
[17:49] <bdrung> packages_prism@developer.mozilla.org := prism
[17:49] <bdrung> asac: am i missing a package? should i already list firefox-3.6?
[18:07] <asac> bdrung: hmm. didnt i add prism and xulrunner (toolkit@mozilla.org)?
[18:07] <asac> bdrung: also sunbird and songbird
[18:08] <bdrung> asac: prism is in the list. xulrunner, sunbird, songbird were not
[18:08] <asac> bdrung: yeah so xulrunner-1.X is toolkit@mozilla.org
[18:08] <asac> with sol 1.9a1pre and eol 1.9.0.* for xulrunner-1.9
[18:09] <asac> and sol 1.9.1a1pre and eol 1.9.1.* for 1.9.1
[18:09] <asac> and sol 1.9.2a1pre and eol 1.9.2.* for 1.9.2
[18:12] <bdrung> asac: ok, done
[18:14] <bdrung> asac: the list is getting very long. should i put it into an extra file?
[18:14] <bdrung> asac: or maybe at the end of the file?
[18:15] <bdrung> asac: what is the string for sunbird and songbird?
[18:16] <bdrung> asac: i cannot find songbird in the repos
[18:17] <asac> bdrung: ok. lets leave songbird for now
[18:17] <asac> not so sure about the extra file
[18:18] <asac> if we do that we probably want something better than the current make format (more readable)
[18:18] <bdrung> 50 lines
[18:18] <bdrung> asac: ok, then we leave it in there, till we find a better format for that.
[18:18] <asac> so lets do the extra file for 0.15
[18:18] <asac> right
[18:18] <bdrung> asac: should i move the list to the end of the file?
[18:18] <asac> i will think about a format. ... but probably xml
[18:19] <bdrung> asac: then you have the write the parsing routine. ;)
[18:19] <asac> bdrung: i think its ok to keep it there as we are going to move it to an extra file. lets mark it as "DATA" thing
[18:19] <bdrung> # DATA
[18:19] <bdrung> or how?
[18:20] <asac> whatever you think is appropriate ;)
[18:20] <asac> lets leave it as it is
[18:20] <asac> its going away at some point ;)
[18:21] <bdrung> asac: my comments are normally very short and sometimes not very meaningfull.
[18:22] <bdrung> asac: what to use as sol for conkeror? http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/universe/c/conkeror/conkeror_0.9~git090223-1/changelog
[18:24] <asac> bdrung: ask the maintainer ;)? who is that?
[18:24] <bdrung> asac: Axel Beckert
[18:33] <bdrung> asac: do you know if he is active on irc?
[18:41] <asac> bdrung: good question ... whats his next?
[18:41] <bdrung> asac, fta: what is the sol of prism (upstream version of first debian package that was uploaded)?
[18:45] <asac> bdrung: i think its ok to check https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/prism
[18:45] <asac> ok have to run .... cu tomorrow!
[18:45] <bdrung> asac: cu
[18:46] <bdrung> asac: but what equals 0.8+svn20071115r8030?
[19:13] <fta> asac, NUMJOBS := -j$(shell getconf _NPROCESSORS_ONLN 2>/dev/null || echo 1)
[19:13] <fta> this is in ffmpeg-debian
[20:21] <BUGabundo> hey
[20:24] <micahg> hey
[20:24] <BUGabundo> ola micahg