[09:22] <eatThisAndDie> helo ll
[09:25] <GnuSeb> Hello, when I try to launch the system monitor I keep getting this message and the apps table won't show up and I need it to kill a process
[09:25] <GnuSeb> The file /home/sebastian/.kde4/share/apps/ksysguard/ProcessTable.sgrd does not contain valid XML.
[09:36] <gunsOfBrixton> hi, I remember that some time ago there was the idea around to make firefox default on kubuntu, has this been rejected?
[11:07] <Toby24> Hallo zusammen
[11:08] <Toby24> Hab eine Frage! Habe Kubuntu 64 installiert! Wenn ich nun pakete über apt oder co installiere sind die dann automatisch für 64bit ?
[11:10] <Toby24> Kann mir da jemand weiterhelfen
[11:19] <Fleck> Hi, i have problem with performance, kernel 2.6.28-15-generic, kubuntu 9.04, anyway, this was happening before too, problem is, for example, i do search for files on all HDDs, and doing search system is slow, even editing file in kate is slow, i press letters, and they come up slowly, moving aroud text file is also slow. I have AMD X2 5200+, 2GB RAM, CPU usage ~10% when searching for files.
[11:19] <Fleck> all HDDs are SATA
[11:54] <tdn> I use ssh as a proxy with -D option. It works fine for some time, but then I start getting these errors: accept: Too many open files. While getting these errors, ssh is eating 100% CPU. How can prevent this from happening?
[11:55] <phh> tdn: ulimit -n 8192
[11:55] <tdn> phh, should I type that in before executing ssh?
[11:55] <phh> yup
[12:01] <Toby24> hi i have installed kubuntu and amarok! but i cant play mp3 files! is there a missing package?
[12:04] <Toby24> can somebody help?
[12:05] <carpii> mp3 is non-free, get it from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[12:12] <tdn> phh, ok.
[12:12] <tdn> phh, ulimit: value exceeds hard limit
[12:13] <phh> arf
[12:13] <tdn> phh, if I just write ulimit, I get "unlimited".
[12:13] <tdn> If I write ulimit -n, I get 1024
[12:13] <phh> tdn: it's the memory limit :p
[12:13] <tdn> phh, ok.
[12:13] <phh> what do you have in /proc/sys/fs/file-max ?
[12:15] <tdn> 327967
[12:16] <thomasthemighty> why is it with computers that when things are supposed to work they never do?
[12:16] <phh> tdn: and file-nr ?
[12:17] <tdn> 6016    0       327967
[12:17] <tdn> What does these figures mean?
[12:17] <phh> try ulimit -n 6016 then
[12:17] <tdn> ulimit: value exceeds hard limit
[12:17] <tdn> Same with 6015
[12:22] <tdn> phh, is the hard limit 6016? I'm not sure what these numbers mean. Is it the max amount of file handles I can have open on the machine? ulimit is per user, right?
[12:23] <phh> tdn: i think (but not totally sure) it's per program
[12:23] <phh> you can set it to higher value
[12:23] <tdn> How?
[12:23] <phh> well no actually
[12:24] <tdn> No?
[12:24] <phh> tdn: do sudo -s, then ulimit -n 8192 then su - <user>
[12:24] <phh> and there try your ssh
[12:27] <phh> tdn: same with sudo su ?
[12:27] <tdn> phh, can't I set the default value higher then?
[12:27] <tdn> In /etc/sysctl.conf maybe?
[12:27] <phh> tdn: maybe /etc/limits.conf
[12:27] <tdn> phh, yes same. Cannot use ssh-agent when I su - <user> to my regular user.
[12:27] <phh> (or /etc/security/limits.conf)
[12:27] <phh> tdn: drop the -
[12:27] <tdn> phh, /etc/limits.conf does not exist.
[12:27] <phh> tdn: find /etc -name limits.conf
[12:28] <tdn> phh, tried both with and without -
[12:28] <phh> ok
[12:29] <tdn> Ok. /etc/security/limits.conf is there. Everything is commented out. What do I add to have a ulimit -n 8192 as default?
[12:30] <phh> read the comments
[12:30] <phh> tdn hard fileno 1024
[12:30] <phh> for example
[12:30] <tdn> phh, yes. But I'm not sure which on.
[12:30] <tdn> Oh. Fileno. Thanks.
[12:31] <tdn> phh, what shuold I do for it to take effect?
[12:31] <phh> i guess reboot should be enough
[12:31] <phh> but don't know if it's necessary
[12:31] <phh> you can maybe just log off/log in
[12:31] <tdn> Ok.
[12:31] <tdn> Thanks.
[12:46] <gp_will_be_back> hi is there intel driver issue jauty jackass jakalope ?
[12:47] <gp_will_be_back> till i day i updgraded to to jaunty ...its taking five seconds to open a windwo
[12:49] <Marcos-R-C-C> hi there!
[12:49] <Marcos-R-C-C> I have a strange problem with kdm from kde 4.2.4
[12:49] <Marcos-R-C-C> it just ignores the setting AntiAlliasing=True in kdmrc
[12:50] <Marcos-R-C-C> it just shows text without antialiasing
[12:50] <Marcos-R-C-C> there is nothing in google, other than " Enable AntiAliasing"  which is done
[12:59] <Marcos-R-C-C> hello?
[13:09] <nick_olas> Are OCR programs mature enough to recognize the text on a screen capture? I've been outdated in the field for some years
[13:14] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[13:24] <varun> hi
[13:30] <wers> you know what I want. hehe
[13:30] <wers> kde 4.3 packages. should I be expecting them soon?
[13:30] <Dragnslcr> You can get the RC packages from the PPA
[13:51] <wers> wow. this room is dead
[14:23] <tommy_> facebook games
[14:23] <ubuntu_> the kubuntu installer keeps crashing
[14:23] <tommy_> i want something that i can make a decent user interface with
[14:23] <PolitikerNEU> tommy_: Javascript is no alternative? (Sorry, I don't know facebook either)
[14:24] <tommy_> but not something like java as i dont want the user to have to install a load of stuff on their system
[14:24] <PolitikerNEU> I mean, I know facebook, but have never used it, especially I have never tried to use or write an application for it
[14:24] <PolitikerNEU> tommy_: You have to install flash and you have to install java - not much difference IMHO
[14:25] <zachary> anyone happen to know why the kubuntu installer would just take a poop?
[14:25] <tommy_> most endusers would have flash tho i think
[14:25] <tommy_> and AJAX is not going to be versatile enough for what im wanting to do i think
[14:26] <PolitikerNEU> tommy_: Could be and beside that, most java interfaces I have seen are _ugly_ as web apps. Hmm ... what do you want to do?
[14:27] <tommy_> well one idea i have is a facebook app similar to theme park, which would be a good example
[14:27] <tommy_> i dont see how i could make something like that easily in AJAX
[14:27] <PolitikerNEU> tommy_: Mom, I have to google what theme park is
[14:28] <tommy_> lol ok
[14:29] <PolitikerNEU> tommy_: Hmm ... you think it is easy with flash to do it?
[14:29] <tommy_> not easy but possible
[14:30] <tommy_> say for example having people walking about on the screen
[14:30] <tommy_> its not really feasible in ajax
[14:30] <PolitikerNEU> tommy_: It could be possible if you use SVG-Animations but most browsers don't support them
[14:31] <tommy_> thats the thing, it needs to be very acessible to the end user
[14:31] <tommy_> i think most people are using flash
[14:31] <tommy_> for this sort of thing
[14:32] <tommy_> hmm, maybe ill just have to hand over the cash to adobe and lump ity
[14:32] <PolitikerNEU> tommy_: This could indeed be true - but I am rather sure there is at least no IDE for flash so maybe it would still be "easier" to do it with JS because you can use an IDE (e.g. Eclipse) there
[14:33] <PolitikerNEU> btw. - what about silverlight?
[14:33] <tommy_> ive not had a look at it really
[14:34] <tommy_> i wish it was still macromedia, i loved that company, hate adobe tho
[14:34] <PolitikerNEU> tommy_: For moonlight, there is an IDE: Lunar eclipse (of course I haven't tried it out)
[14:37] <tommy_> does silverlight come bundled with ie as standard do you know?
[14:37] <tommy_> hmm i could use that but its just a question of how many users will just click off when they find out they have to install silverlight
[14:38] <tommy_> i think most endusers have flash anyway
[14:38] <tommy_> well flash player
[14:38] <ubuntu> hi
[14:38] <PolitikerNEU> tommy_: _Maybe_ it comes bundled with .NET but I don't know that
[14:39] <tommy_> thanks for your help anyway, youve certainly given me some food for thought
[14:39] <zachary> is there a way to install ubuntu without burning another disk, because apparently I must have burnt a bad copy, and that was my last CDR
[14:39] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[14:39] <zachary> hi BluesKaj
[14:40] <PolitikerNEU> zachary: I don't think there is, I would have needed it at some day (At least there is no simple way, maybe you could mount the iso in some special way at boot time)
[14:41] <BluesKaj> zachary, if your pc BIOS is capable you can install from a USB stick
[14:41] <BluesKaj> !USB
[14:42] <PolitikerNEU> Damn, that's true - I thought the only way to run the USB-System-Creater is from a live-CD
[15:20] <ugur> hi firefox above version 3.0 does not know the default application for a mime type
[15:20] <ugur> does anybody know how to fix that?
[15:20] <TeLLuS> Riddell: Looking at the buildhost it tries to build kdebase-runtime 4.3 with libs from 4.2.98 and it fails.. maybe could update the build deps "kdelibs5-dev (>= 4:4.2.98)"
[15:20] <ugur> before version 3 i was using firefox-gnome-support package for that but know it doesn't work
[15:23] <Riddell> TeLLuS: mm, fooey, forgot to bump that
[15:23] <hw_> How do I select the default file manager? I remember there is somewhere a lik that points to the file, but I can't find it... =)
[15:25] <hw_> !filemanager
[15:25] <hw_> !defaultfilemanager
[15:25] <hw_> !dolphin
[15:25] <Riddell> hw_: System Settings -> Default Applications
[15:25] <ugur> hw_ system settings->default applications may help
[15:26] <bigjools> Riddell: did you guys end up having Quassel as the default IRC client in the end?
[15:31] <Riddell> bigjools: we're still undecided for karmic actually, we'll probably have a meeting next week to decide
[15:32] <bigjools> Riddell: ah, I was hoping you'd help me figure out how to get its audible notifications actually audible :)
[15:54] <vassbak> athens
[15:56] <vassbak> anyone knows how i can install my logitech webcam in the system "ubuntu"?
[15:57] <shadeslayer> vassbak: just plug it in :)
[16:00] <shadeslayer> !pm | vassbak
[16:01] <vassbak> yes i did it thank you ubottu
[16:01] <shadeslayer> be back in a jiffy
[16:04] <shadeslayer> vassbak: just plug it in and then install cheese or equivalent to get a output stream or use it with your IM client
[16:04] <shadeslayer> !webcam | vassbak : also see
[16:10] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: ping
[16:15] <bohne> hi, 2x konquerors openend, each of them with several tabs to remote servers (sftp)
[16:16] <bohne> i'm have the problem that when i copy files, that the file icon hangs at the mouse pointer
[16:16] <shadeslayer> bohne: which site?
[16:16] <bohne> and i can't copy files and i loose control overall, does anyone know that bug?
[16:17] <bohne> shadeslayer: what site do you mean?
[16:17] <bohne> shadeslayer: sftp connections, i'm not using konqueror as a browser
[16:17] <shadeslayer> bohne: what ftp site? if its the KDE one...then 4.3 was uploaded and thus the slowdown
[16:18] <bohne> shadeslayer: servers of our customers
[16:18] <bohne> shadeslayer: i think it must be a konqueror bug, not a server problem
[16:18] <shadeslayer> bohne: no idea then..
[16:18] <bohne> shadeslayer: what do you use as really powerfull file manager?
[16:19] <bohne> shadeslayer: i cannot find an alternative to konqueror
[16:19] <shadeslayer> bohne: dolphin? i dont use sftp btw
[16:19] <bohne> shadeslayer: i have to maager lots sftp, local and smb connections at the same time
[16:19] <bohne> shadeslayer: to manage
[16:19] <shadeslayer> !sftp
[16:20] <shadeslayer> !ftp | bohne : also
[16:21] <bohne> shadeslayer: thanks
[16:22] <shadeslayer> bohne: no problems
[16:23] <zachary> !cli
[16:23] <trapa> i have a probleme to my terminal
[16:23] <shadeslayer> trapa: go ahead
[16:24] <shadeslayer> trapa: what is the exact problem??
[16:24] <bohne> zachary: i use terminals lots, with lots of tabs and connection to different servers, but it is often more comfortable to have two big windows each with big tree structure of one server and an other to find the right places
[16:25] <trapa> i  click control + alt +F1 ...i must tape my  lgin and my pass
[16:25] <shadeslayer> !tty | trapa
[16:26] <zachary> !tape
[16:26] <trapa> but ai have a incorect login
[16:26] <zachary> anyone here use tape drives? do you use tar or some other app?
[16:26] <shadeslayer> !pmthebot | zachary
[16:26] <shadeslayer> !msgthebot | zachary
[16:27] <shadeslayer> trapa: hmm,strange.... you have typed the correct password and username i hope
[16:27] <trapa> yes i do
[16:28] <shadeslayer> trapa: try changing the password and try again
[16:28] <trapa> ok
[16:28] <trapa> thank you
[16:31] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: pong
[16:32] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: hey there....i was wondering if you can tell me that when kde 4.3 releases today,how long will it take to update the repos?
[16:32] <TeLLuS> On buildhost adare (powerpc)  WARNING: this version of the GNU libc requires kernel version 2.6.18 or later. Please upgrade your kernel before installing glibc.   Maybe someone would like to know, should we report to Build Daemon Maintainers?
[16:33] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: the packages are not pully uploaded yet, just be patient
[16:33] <Mamarok> fully*
[16:33] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: so you guys have the source code??
[16:34] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: keey an eye on the topic and on http://kubuntu.org
[16:34] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: i check every minute
[16:34] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: well, every hour is fast enough :)
[16:35] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: hehe...i have a RSS feed on my desktop too...
[16:35] <Mamarok> sghadewhat do you mean, if we have the sourcecode?
[16:35] <Mamarok> the tagging was about a week ago already :)
[16:35] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: yeah..i know :)
[16:36] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: ooh..i get it now
[16:36] <shadeslayer> as soon as KDE is tagged you get the source code and start uploading to the PPA's and what not
[16:40] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: no, the ninjas start building the packages, then tey upload the packages
[16:41] <Mamarok> they
[16:41] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: they build the packages on the day of the release or after its tagged?
[16:41] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: let's take this to -offtopic, will you? :)
[16:42] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: this is offtoic? okies then
[16:48] <darth> hi
[16:48] <shadeslayer> hey
[16:48] <darth> i need help
[16:49] <darth> my inglish it's very bad
[16:50] <darth> i need a disk tool in kubuntu 9.04
[16:50] <shadeslayer> darth: something to repartition?
[16:50] <shadeslayer> !partition
[16:50] <darth> it's for usb disk
[16:51] <darth> thankyu
[16:52] <darth> !partitionManager it's for me
[16:52] <darth> ja
[16:52] <darth> :-)
[16:52] <shadeslayer> darth: try that in a PM with the bot....just the !PartitionManager
[16:53] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: the answer is already there in the previous line
[16:53] <darth> thank's
[16:53] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: lag here...
[16:56] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: its out!
[17:00] <apparle> hi guys
[17:01] <shadeslayer> apparle: hi
[17:05] <Pastelito> hola
[17:06] <Pastelito> aa
[17:09] <Hellmark[S10e]> Quick question. How do you set the location of the weather plasmoids? I go to their settings, hit the change location button, and nothing I search for is found
[17:10] <shadeslayer> Hellmark[S10e]: try a more general location....like a big city nearby
[17:10] <Hellmark[S10e]> Did that
[17:10] <Hellmark[S10e]> I live outside of St Louis, and so tried searching for that
[17:11] <Hellmark[S10e]> Figure one of the top 10 cities in the US ought to be big enough
[17:11] <shadeslayer> Hellmark[S10e]: tried saint louis ?
[17:11] <shadeslayer> Hellmark[S10e]: also try searching the bbc site
[17:12] <Hellmark[S10e]> tried st louis and saint louis
[17:12] <Hellmark[S10e]> ok, I just tried searching "louis" and I got some hits.
[17:12] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: no, it is *not*
[17:13] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: wait for the official announcement, I already told you so
[17:13] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: pinotree just made the announcement....
[17:13] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: well, not on kubuntu.org
[17:13] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: no not on kubuntu.org... on kde.org
[17:13] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: http://kde.org/announcements/4.3/index.php
[17:15] <Hellmark[S10e]> the other thing I noticed, is the temperature monitor plasmoid in 4.2.98 reports what appears to be celsius temperatures, but states it is fahrenheit. Is this a known bug? Didnt find it in the KDE bug tracker, but it appeared to be having issues when I looked this morning.
[17:18] <Hellmark[S10e]> didnt see that in launchpad, either
[17:19] <Mamarok> Hellmark[S10e]: this is a known bug indeed, and there is a Launchpad bug filed for it, I have seen it in my inbox
[17:20] <zigma> hey,
[17:22] <zigma> Im having a problem with dig
[17:22] <zigma> anyone can help ?
[17:22] <Hellmark[S10e]> I found one in launchpad that the temperature appears only in fahrenheit in the temperature monitor, which if it actually reported the temp in fahrenheit, I'd be cool with that.
[17:23] <Hellmark[S10e]> but, nothing about the label being off
[17:31] <Kovert> ? I have installed firefox 3.5 but what I use the menu I staill get firefox 3.0X
[17:32] <shadeslayer> Kovert: have you installed firefox-3.5 package?
[17:32] <cypr1nus> hello, what service is responsible for sound in kde4?
[17:32] <Kovert> yes
[17:32] <Kovert> shadeslayer: yes
[17:32] <Pici> !shiretoko
[17:32] <Kovert> !jp
[17:33] <Kovert> ah shitritko
[17:33] <Pici> Kovert: Please mind your language
[17:34] <cinque> eu sou o cara
[17:34] <Kovert> Pici: sorry typo
[17:34] <Pici> !br | cinque
[17:34] <shadeslayer> Pici: i think he meant shiretoko
[17:34] <zigma> When I ask for the bind version I always get "dnsmasq" , anyone have a solution ? Thanks in advance .
[17:34] <cinque> estou a usar!!!
[17:35] <Kovert> !po
[17:35] <zigma> anoyone please ? :(
[17:41] <apparle> hey whats the latest information on firefox-qt
[17:41] <shadeslayer> apparle: dead i think...rekonq is a nice alternative
[17:42] <shadeslayer> apparle: want the SVN ?
[17:42] <apparle> what's SVN
[17:42] <shadeslayer> !svn | apparle
[17:43] <shadeslayer> apparle: well you checkout ( download ) the sourcecode and then compile the program
[17:44] <shadeslayer> apparle: its actually quite simple...
[17:44] <apparle> shadeslayer: Is it being developed or not
[17:44] <shadeslayer> apparle: firefox-qt ? idk
[17:44] <apparle> shadeslayer: what??
[17:45] <shadeslayer> apparle: rekonq is quite active in development... firefox-qt , i have no idea
[17:47] <apparle> anyone else know anything abt KDE version of firefox
[17:47] <shadeslayer> apparle: there is also this qt theme for firefox...
[17:48] <apparle> I use the theme But the integeration with the DE is hopeless
[17:49] <shadeslayer> apparle: yeah i know.....give rekonq a try...thats my 2 cents
[17:49] <apparle> apparle: I actually use firefox in windows so I want a common browser on bith the system
[17:51] <shadeslayer> apparle: understandable....but rekonwq is webkit so its kinda like safari at the base...
[17:51] <shadeslayer> good de integration
[17:52] <BluesKaj> the medibuntu repos is still unreachable :(
[17:53] <apparle> I'll give it a try..................what abt arora which comes as default in karmic
[17:53] <shadeslayer> apparle: not so good on the eyes... requires webkit
[17:53] <apparle> shadeslayer: talk a little simple
[17:54] <shadeslayer> !webkit
[17:54] <BluesKaj> arora is ok, but nothing special , even webkit can't fix it much
[17:54] <BluesKaj> daughter is using it on her mac
[17:54] <shadeslayer> apparle: webkit is a open source initiative by apple,safari is based on webkit,arora and rekonq are based on webkit
[17:54] <shadeslayer> rekonq is much beautiful :P
[18:03] <apparle> where can I find the latest featues in karmic
[18:03] <shadeslayer> apparle: karmic discussion in #ubuntu+1
[18:05] <raindog> KDE 4.3, how can I place different widgets per workspace?
[18:08] <Shura> raindog, « Different activity activity for each desktop » option, but it is (or may be) bugged
[18:15] <BluesKaj> shadeslayer, reonq wont install with cmake on my setup , it builds fine but fails to install to /usr/local/bin/rekonq
[18:15] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: um...sudo make install right?
[18:16] <BluesKaj> looks like cmake is the culpprit again
[18:16] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: hold on
[18:16] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: try cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=$(kde4-config --prefix) /path/to/source after deleting cmakecache
[18:16] <raindog> Shura: Thanks.  I'll give it a try.
[18:18] <BluesKaj> oops shadeslayer , forgot about sudo ...I followed the reame instructions which don't include sudo :)
[18:18] <BluesKaj> readme
[18:18] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: happens all the time....i guess the error was error : 2
[18:19] <BluesKaj> yeah , I should know better :)
[18:19] <shadeslayer> hehe
[18:20] <BluesKaj> nice too, it imported all my bookmarks from konqueror
[18:20] <shadeslayer> :)
[18:21] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: gmail works too!
[18:25] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: anything you dont like about rekonq?
[18:26] <BluesKaj> yeah , i noticed
[18:26] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: hmm?
[18:27] <BluesKaj> well, i don't see a refresh , it's in the right click dialog tho
[18:27] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: yeah,no F5
[18:28] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: SVN version has the F5 combo
[18:28] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: want the SVN ?
[18:29] <u19809> hi all, i have problems with pulseaudio and skype. I cannot seem to get skype capturing from my microphone
[18:29] <shadeslayer> u19809: you need to set the default audio input to pulse audio
[18:30] <u19809> All my sound devices are set to 'pulse' and skype does capture audio but from my tv card which is connect to my line in
[18:31] <shadeslayer> u19809: set the default audio device in the settings to use the mic
[18:32] <u19809> settings in what application Pulse/kde/mixer or skype ?
[18:32] <shadeslayer> u19809: kmixer
[18:34] <u19809> ok testing
[18:36] <shadeslayer> u19809: if nothing else works try the skype-static or skype-static-oss version
[18:37] <u19809> shadeslayer : hmm I got two input souces (1 and 2) and I set both of them to mic and line and any combination thereof.  However I still hear my TV when I call skyp testing service not my mic
[18:37] <shadeslayer> u19809: have a go at the static versions
[18:38] <u19809> what do you mean with 'static' versions ? another download or a setting in skype ?
[18:39] <shadeslayer> u19809: a different packahe
[18:39] <shadeslayer> *package
[18:39] <shadeslayer> !info skype-static
[18:39] <shadeslayer> u19809: sudo apt-get install skype-static
[18:40] <u19809> skype-static does not exist as package
[18:45] <[-Haza-]> Hey folks. Anyone been having trouble with Skype recently on kubuntu. It seems to eat 50% CPU most of the time and keeps dropping its connection
[18:45] <[-Haza-]> Any idea's?
[18:49] <BluesKaj> shadeslayer, thanks ,but no thanks , svn is too flaky from my experience
[18:50] <shadeslayer> hehe..
[18:55] <BluesKaj> shadeslayer, do you have an icon source/url for reconq ?
[18:55] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: theyre in the SVN itself...
[18:55] <BluesKaj> err rekonq
[18:56] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: heres the file listing of the icon folder of the SVN : http://pastebin.com/f3e0dec3a
[19:02] <ArPharazon> Hello, #kubuntu.
[19:03] <ArPharazon> So my computer freezes semi randomly. Should I ask on windows because I had only xp installed, or should I ask here because my kubuntu livecd is the only way to get past the boot screen? Or is there a #ghostintheshell?
[19:05] <ArPharazon> Btw, I think it's very likely a hardware problem but... It's weird, man.
[19:05] <Serpardum> if you can only get past the xp boot screen by a a livecd, its a windows issue
[19:05] <Serpardum> is it the windows boot screen you see, or bios boot screen?
[19:06] <BluesKaj> shadeslayer, yeah thanks i should have looked in the rekonk folders for the png files
[19:06] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: :)
[19:07] <ArPharazon> Serpardum: You'd think that eh? Well sometimes the livecd crashes when it's trying to boot Linux, it crashes if I run QTParted. It crashes if I run Setup. It sometimes crashes anyway even if I behave and don't run anything funny like that.
[19:08] <Serpardum> hardware problem.  check your memory.  check your cpu.  check your power supply
[19:08] <Serpardum> My first suspect is memory
[19:08] <Serpardum> How many programmers does it take to change a lightbulb?
[19:08] <Serpardum> Can't be done, that's a hardware problem.
[19:08] <u19809> shadeslayer : got it, apparently puls does not support audio IN and skype fell back to my TV card as first source with audion IN capabilities
[19:09] <ArPharazon> .Memory? RAM? Would the 7,10 livecd's memory check thing work?
[19:09] <Serpardum> if it has it, yes
[19:09] <Serpardum> any system check you have, run
[19:09] <ArPharazon> Serpardum: Also, how can I check my cpu?
[19:09] <Serpardum> not easily.
[19:09] <Serpardum> you want to monitor the temperature
[19:09] <ArPharazon> Serpardum: Temp is fine
[19:09] <ArPharazon> 60 minus
[19:09] <ArPharazon> fan working
[19:09] <Serpardum> how old is your computer?
[19:10] <Serpardum> speicifically your cpu
[19:10] <Serpardum> no, motherboard
[19:10] <ArPharazon> Serpardum: Botha re about... Shit, I can barely remember.
[19:10] <ArPharazon> Think I bought them back in 2006
[19:10] <shadeslayer> ubottu: so the static version worked?
[19:11] <Serpardum> then it's probably on the far end.  mother boards I see tend to have around a 4-5 year lifespan nowadays unless you get an expeinsive one.  then 5-6
[19:11] <Serpardum> so then you go to get a new mohterboard, and you find out that your cpu socket isn't supported anymore.  so you gotta buy a new cpu, and ytou find out your memory wont fit
[19:12] <ArPharazon> Serpardum: I was expecting a more gradual increase in freeze frequency =/
[19:12] <Serpardum> so you eihter kick in for new motherboard, cpu and memory, or look around for a computer on sale
[19:12] <Serpardum> unfortually they just do that
[19:12] <Serpardum> one day they just go.  Hmm.. I think I'm going to sleep now.  goodnight
[19:12] <ArPharazon> Serpardum: aw man that sucks =(
[19:13] <Serpardum> This is the 2nd computer I've had since.. 04 I think.  maybe 05
[19:13] <ArPharazon> Hey hey hey hold it
[19:13] <Serpardum> I bought the new computer becuae like I said, cpu wouldn't fit, memory wouldn't fit, etc..
[19:13] <Serpardum> got a good deal though 487 out the door for refurbished
[19:13] <ArPharazon> If my mobo is dead then shouldn't I have problems with kubuntu too? I am using the hardware after all
[19:13] <Serpardum> 3gb, 3mhz, dual cpu amd, 500gb hd, 8600 video card
[19:14] <Serpardum> it depends
[19:14] <Serpardum> you stold me it locked up sometimes didn' tyou?
[19:14] <Serpardum> [11:07] <ArPharazon> Serpardum: You'd think that eh? Well sometimes the livecd crashes when it's trying to boot Linux, it crashes if I run QTParted. It crashes if I run Setup. It sometimes crashes anyway even if I behave and don't run anything funny like that.
[19:14] <yanskii> йй
[19:14] <yanskii> qq
[19:14] <Serpardum> It could be the CPU.
[19:14] <Mamarok> yanskii: English, please
[19:14] <Serpardum> Unles syou have a fairly recent mother board, though, you won't find a new cpu to fit in it.
[19:14] <yanskii> i'm sorry)))
[19:15] <Serpardum> random crashes mean memory, cpu, motherboard or powersupply are going on the fritz.  one fo them
[19:15] <Serpardum> usually with powersupply though you just come in one day and can't turn it on
[19:15] <ArPharazon> Serpardum: Hmm... What about hdd?
[19:15] <Serpardum> livecd doens't use hdd
[19:16] <Mamarok> ArPharazon: check your RAM
[19:16] <Serpardum> liek I said, ram is my first suspect
[19:16] <ArPharazon> Serpardum: But whenever I do, I crash it
[19:16] <ArPharazon> ok
[19:16] <ArPharazon> lemme check the ram then
[19:16] <Serpardum> it's also cheapest to fix
[19:16] <ArPharazon> I hope it@s ram
[19:16] <ArPharazon> I have two sticks >_>
[19:16] <ArPharazon> anyway brb
[19:17] <Serpardum> gl, I"m going afk
[19:22] <link777> Hello i cant watch movies
[19:22] <link777> On my kubuntu 9.04 can someone tell me why?
[19:23] <shadeslayer> link777: do you have vlc installed? or the codecs for dragon player?
[19:24] <shadeslayer> link777: please install the kubuntu-restricted-extras package of you have not done so
[19:26] <link777> shadeslayer: i dont know how to install the codecs for dragon player because when i try to install it says something is already in use and it wont let me install the packages but is there another way?
[19:28] <Mamarok> link777: you probably have another package manager open
[19:28] <shadeslayer> link777: yes, open a konsole and type sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[19:28] <link777> shadeslayer: i did and i got this E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[19:28] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: he has to shut down one dpkg instance first
[19:29] <shadeslayer> link777: yeah,what mamarok said
[19:29] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: i realised it after i posted
[19:29] <Mamarok> link777: close all your package managers
[19:29] <link777> Mamarok: i have none open
[19:30] <Mamarok> link777: well, no kpackagekit, adept, synaptic or aptitude running elsewhere?
[19:30] <link777> Mamarok: how do i close them? Can i close them using terminal? I dont know if anything is running right now
[19:30] <Mamarok> link777: you shoould see it on your desktop, no?
[19:30] <Mamarok> -o
[19:31] <link777> nothing is running now i think
[19:31] <Mamarok> all but aptitude are GUI applications that sow in the panel
[19:31] <Mamarok> show*
[19:31] <link777> i have vuze
[19:31] <Mamarok> link777: did you verify?
[19:31] <link777> verify how?
[19:32] <Mamarok> why do you run vuze when you have ktorrent?
[19:32] <link777> ktorrent stalled my downloads so i downloaded vuze
[19:32] <Mamarok> well, check on all your desktops if something is running, and in all your consoles
[19:32] <Mamarok> link777: that's because you didn't modify the default settings :)
[19:33] <link777> Mamarok: i see something in system monitor , that apt-get is running is that what i have to close?
[19:34] <shadeslayer> link777: yes,but do not kill the processes
[19:34] <link777> shadeslayer: then i dont know how to close it...
[19:34] <Ursinha> hi all :)
[19:35] <Ursinha> I'm using kde 4.3 from backports, and I'm having issues with ssh-agent
[19:35] <Ursinha> or whatever replaces it
[19:35] <Ursinha> it seems it's not enabled
[19:35] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: do you have a konosle open?
[19:35] <Mamarok> konsole
[19:35] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: me?
[19:35] <Mamarok> sry, wrong nick
[19:36] <Mamarok> link777: do you have a konsole open?
[19:36] <link777> konsole/terminal?
[19:36] <Mamarok> or did you run apt-get in a tty?
[19:36] <Mamarok> yes
[19:36] <link777> Mamarok: now i do
[19:36] <Mamarok> link777: you do what?
[19:36] <link777> Mamarok: i dont do anything just tell me what to do so i can watch some movies
[19:37] <Mamarok> link777: what does the line in top about apt-get tell you?
[19:37] <link777> Mamarok: apt 0.7.20.2ubuntu6 för i386 kompilerad den Apr 17 2009 04:25:29
[19:38] <Mamarok> link777: you said it was running earlier, where does it run, on tty7?
[19:38] <link777> on system monitor
[19:38] <Mamarok> link777: and system monitor tells you where it is running?
[19:39] <link777> Mamarok: no it just says its running and if i want to quit running it i must kill process
[19:40] <Mamarok> link777: just a moment, please
[19:43] <link777> Mamarok: yes
[19:43] <Mamarok> link777: in the system monitor, there is a column called TTY, do you see that?
[19:45] <link777> Mamarok: no i dont see any TTY
[19:45] <Mamarok> link777: you have the application ksysguard open, don't you?
[19:45] <link777> Mamarok: i dont know how to check? I see the tty now i just had to add it
[19:45] <jessenation> How do I import the gpg key so I can safely upgrade to KDE 4.3 ?
[19:46] <Mamarok> well, that's the information I need about apt-get
[19:46] <Mamarok> link777: is there a TTY information in the apt-get line?
[19:47] <link777> Mamarok: no there isnt
[19:48] <jessenation> I saved it as a text file then renamed it kde43pubkey.gpg but kpackagekit does not recognize
[19:49] <Mamarok> link777: ok, can you search for any other package manager there, like adept, kpackagekit or synaptic?
[19:50] <link777> Mamarok: i have kpackagekit software management
[19:50] <link777> Mamarok: when i try to install something i fail because its already being run or something....
[19:52] <Mamarok> link777: I was asking if some of those where running and visible in the system monitor :)
[19:53] <jessenation> does anyone know ?
[19:54] <link777> Mamarok: cant find any
[19:55] <Mamarok> link777: ok, now let's kill that stuff then, I'll tell you how to proceed, moment
[19:56] <Mamarok> link777: you need to type this in a terminal: sudo killall apt-get
[19:58] <Mamarok> link777: did you do this?
[19:58] <link777> Mamarok: yes
[19:58] <Mamarok> link777: any message from the terminal with that?
[20:01] <Mamarok> link777: still here?
[20:01] <link777> Mamarok: no i didnt get any
[20:02] <Mamarok> ok, so it should be killed now, ca you run 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras'  now?
[20:02] <link777> Mamarok: i dont think i need to because i can watch my movies now :D
[20:03] <Mamarok> link777: well, that's good then, seems you just didn't have the last installation locked :)
[20:19] <cypr1nus> hello, anyone using dosbox and get this error: Exit to error: CPU:GRP5:Illegal Call  7 ?
[20:25] <Guest15747> Hi all! I'm searching for documentation that explain in details kubuntu boot process and boot scripts structures.. Some hint pls?
[20:25] <shadeslayer> !grub | Guest15747
[20:26] <Guest15747> Hi! no I did not lost grub. I just want to do big modification to the system
[20:26] <Guest15747> I compiled a vanilla kernel from scratch
[20:26] <Guest15747> as I always did in past
[20:27] <Guest15747> I can run a single user mode
[20:27] <shadeslayer> Guest15747: see the 2nd link
[20:27] <Guest15747> but in runlevel 2 some scripts fails..
[20:27] <Guest15747> did you mean the one about grub?
[20:27] <shadeslayer> Guest15747: yep
[20:28] <shadeslayer> !kernel | Guest15747 : also see
[20:29] <Guest15747> Hmm.. Excuse me I have a bit of experience on recompiled linux kernel.. I even wrote linux drivers in past.. Now i'm searching info about kubuntu init scriprs.. Assume the kernel is OK...
[20:29] <Guest15747> I mean the structure of scripts... I used old redhat system with inittab files and without udev
[20:29] <Guest15747> and things was very simplier
[20:30] <Guest15747> those new distros loads a lot of things
[20:30] <Guest15747> lot of demons..
[20:30] <shadeslayer> Guest15747: no idea on that then...i thought you meant something on grub
[20:30] <Guest15747> any document about it ?
[20:30] <waltzingalong> Guest15747: then your question is not kubuntu specific and you might do well searching for ubuntu init scripts
[20:30] <carpii> theres a package you can install if you want red-hat style sysinit scripts
[20:30] <Guest15747> ok.. So kubuntu and ubuntu init script
[20:30] <Guest15747> are the same?
[20:30] <shadeslayer> Guest15747: you can have a look at bootchart,lists everything loaded at boot time
[20:30] <shadeslayer> Guest15747: yep
[20:31] <Guest15747> ok! Great can you tell me where I can find bootchart?
[20:31] <shadeslayer> Guest15747: its in the repos
[20:31] <shadeslayer> !info bootchart | Guest15747
[20:31] <Guest15747> And can you carpii please tell me the name of the packet?
[20:31] <shadeslayer> Guest15747: its bootchart, sudo apt-get install bootchart
[20:31] <Guest15747> ok.. I'm going to get the bootchart! thank you a lot!
[20:31] <Guest15747> fantastic!!
[20:32] <shadeslayer> Guest15747: have a look at bum too
[20:32] <Guest15747> thanks folks !
[20:32] <Guest15747> bum?
[20:32] <shadeslayer> !bum
[20:32] <Guest15747> ok!!!
[20:32] <Guest15747> thanks again!
[20:32] <shadeslayer> no probs
[20:39] <giuseppe_> scusate ma motivi personali devo abbandonarvi
[21:04] <link777> hur fungerar wine egentligen?
[21:05] <shadeslayer> link777: english please
[21:05] <link777> sorry
[21:05] <link777> shadeslayer: how do i install wine?
[21:05] <link777> shadeslayer: and how does it workK?
[21:05] <msichal> how to install KDe 3,5 in kubuntu jaunty
[21:06] <msichal> kde 4 annoys me
[21:06] <shadeslayer> link777: run sudo apt-get install wine in a terminal
[21:06] <shadeslayer> !wine | link777
[21:07] <msichal> does anyone know?
[21:07] <aboSamoor> does any one know what is the package responsible for the brightness bubble in kubuntu ?
[21:07] <shadeslayer> !kde3
[21:07] <msichal> i dont want to download whole cd
[21:10] <msichal> how to download it and install using apt-geyt or something similiar
[21:17] <jaro> Hello there. I've noticed that I can kill vim on various ubuntu based desktops - open vim, then type :e ~../ and hit <Tab> and my vim dies due to the SIGABRT. Do you have the same issue?
[21:18] <cuznt> what is vim
[21:18] <jaro> cuznt: vim = Vi iMproved
[21:19] <cuznt> which is for?
[21:19] <cuznt> i mean i cant help u
[21:19] <cuznt> trying to learn smoething\
[21:19] <genii> cuznt: It's a text editor
[21:19] <carpii> yes jaro, same issue here on kubuntu 8.04
[21:19] <cuznt> ty
[21:19] <genii> !info vim
[21:20] <jaro> carpii: thanks, I'll file a bug report
[21:21] <jaro> I just wanted to see whether it is some widespread issue before issuing bug report. Seems that it is.
[21:21] <carpii> :/
[21:41] <sheytan_> Hi there :)
[21:41] <shadeslayer> hey
[21:41] <sheytan_> are there packages for KDE 4.3? :D
[21:42] <shadeslayer> sheytan_: yes,RC packages are availabe
[21:42] <shadeslayer> *available
[21:42] <sheytan_> I was asking for the stabele release :)
[21:42] <Dragnslcr> They'll be ready when they're ready
[21:42] <shadeslayer> sheytan_: they will be available shortly
[21:42] <sheytan_> ok, thanks :)
[21:49] <waltzingalong> sheytan_: answer in the topic
[21:50] <sheytan_> waltzingalong: ok, thanks :)
[22:01] <Riddell> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.3  4.3 is up!
[22:03] <shadeslayer> Riddell: thanks
[22:04] <waltzingalong> cha'ching
[22:06] <Cybertinus> hello
[22:06] <shadeslayer> Cybertinus: hey
[22:07] <Cybertinus> I'm trying to install Kubuntu 9.04 inside a VirtualBox 3.0.2 virtual machine
[22:07] <Cybertinus> the installation went without any problem
[22:07] <shadeslayer> Riddell: there seems to be some problem....the dist-upgrade command keeps back packages
[22:07] <Cybertinus> now I'm trying to install the Virtual Box Additions
[22:07] <Cybertinus> the installation of them didn't had any problems
[22:08] <shadeslayer> 37 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 18 to remove and 88 not upgraded.
[22:08] <Cybertinus> but when I try to start X now, the resolution changes to 1280x1024 I think, but entier X is put in the top 2 inches of the screen, really cramed
[22:08] <Cybertinus> anybody who knows how to solve that?
[22:09] <Cybertinus> I tried the "solve X problems" thing in the Recovery mode, didn't work
[22:09] <Cybertinus> I tried dpkg --reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg, didn't work
[22:09] <Cybertinus> I tried X -configure and use that xorg.conf file, didn't work
[22:09] <Cybertinus> I'm running out of idea's :)
[22:09] <shadeslayer> Cybertinus: editing xorg.conf?
[22:10] <shadeslayer> !resolution | Cybertinus
[22:10] <Cybertinus> shadeslayer: the default xorg.conf is completely empty
[22:10] <shadeslayer> Cybertinus: theres your problem
[22:10] <Cybertinus> well, not completely, there are some things, but nothing is acctually configured there
[22:11] <shadeslayer> Cybertinus: see last step of wiki
[22:11] <floh> Hi, I wanted to install *cough
[22:11] <Cybertinus> shadeslayer: you mean "Obtaining modelines from Windows program PowerStrip"? I'm not running Windows, so that is not very usefull ;) (my host OS is Gentoo LInux ;) )
[22:11] <floh> Hi, I wanted to install *cough* WinXP on Debian. Unfortunatelly Pentium 3 doesn't have VT for XEN, so I cannot use XEN, right?
[22:12] <ubuntu> Hi,im having troubles with the bluetooth adapter, how could I connect my cell phone as a modem?
[22:12] <shadeslayer> Cybertinus: no i meant the one which says edit xorg.comf
[22:12] <shadeslayer> *conf
[22:13] <shadeslayer> ubuntu: dial modems are not supported in ubuntu by default
[22:13] <shadeslayer> !dialup | ubuntu
[22:13] <Cybertinus> shadeslayer: ok
[22:14] <ubuntu> and I don't know what's wrong, but I can't start a PAN (Personal Area Network)
[22:14] <shadeslayer> !pan
[22:15] <shadeslayer> ubuntu: never tried that....
[22:15] <ubuntu> neither do I
[22:15] <Torch> where do i get qt4.5.x with x > 0 for jaunty?
[22:15] <shadeslayer> Torch: umm... kde 4.3?
[22:16] <Earthwings> Riddell: nice, thanks. it seems to depend on qt-4.5.1, is that available at a convenient place as well?
[22:16] <Torch> shadeslayer: not on my mirrors, apparently
[22:17] <ubuntu_giant> Hello.  What is the current stable version of KDE?  I think I might have accidentally upgraded to a beta version.
[22:17] <shadeslayer> Torch: uh...you have to add the backports repo
[22:17] <ubuntu> I've been trying to use the bluetooth adaptor, sometimes that thing is a headache
[22:17] <shadeslayer> ubuntu_giant: what version are you on? 4.3 was released today as a stable version
[22:17] <ubuntu> and creating a PAN on windows xp is a doddle with little pain
[22:17] <Torch> shadeslayer: ouch... different repos for qt4.5.1 and kde 4.3? thats... interesting.
[22:18] <shadeslayer> Torch: no..in order to have qt 4.5.1 you need KDE 4.3 i think
[22:18] <Torch> shadeslayer: currently kde 4.3 is being held back by apt because it depends on 4.5.1
[22:18] <Torch> (qt 4.5.1, that is)
[22:19] <Riddell> Earthwings: hum, it didn't copy for some reason
[22:19] <Riddell> Earthwings: you can use https://edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/staging in the mean time
[22:19] <Torch> shadeslayer: obviously i'm not alone with that.
[22:19]  * Earthwings looks
[22:19] <shadeslayer> yeah..apt is holding baack packages
[22:19] <ubuntu_giant> shadeslayer: When I get to "About KDE" it says "Version 4.2.98(KDE 4.2.98(4.3 RC3))"
[22:20] <shadeslayer> ubuntu_giant: yes,you have a RC version... 4.3 was released today as a stable version...youll be updated
[22:20] <mildner> is it posible to upgrade kubuntu from console in ubuntu
[22:21] <Torch> mildner: sure. what do you want to do exactly?
[22:21] <shadeslayer> mildner: yep
[22:21] <Dragnslcr> mildner- do you mean install KDE?
[22:21] <Earthwings> Riddell: alright, that works, thx :-)
[22:21] <mildner> I recieved the notice kubuntu 4.3 is released but because of problems with plasma desktop I am using gnome
[22:22] <shadeslayer> mildner: no problems here...
[22:22] <Dragnslcr> mildner- if you have the PPA enabled, then you'll get the updated packages
[22:23] <mildner> sorry what iss PPA?
[22:23] <shadeslayer> gnome libs generally screw my KDE libs
[22:23] <shadeslayer> !ppa | mildner
[22:24] <mildner> is it enough to use --> sudo apt-get upgrade
[22:25] <shadeslayer> mildner: dist-upgrade
[22:25] <Dragnslcr> mildner- you also need the backports PPA enabled (see topic)
[22:32] <Cybertinus> shadeslayer: In my /var/log/Xorg.0.log I see lines about the same error. They say: "(EE) AIGLX error: vboxvideo does not export required DRI extension" and "(EE) AIGLX: reverting to software rendering". Could this be the reason everything is crampt in 2 inches?
[22:34] <shadeslayer> Cybertinus: im off to sleep..can you please take up the issue with someone else?
[22:34] <Cybertinus> shadeslayer: ok. Good night :)
[22:34] <Cybertinus> I should do the same ;)
[22:34] <Cybertinus> shadeslayer: thnx for your help
[22:36] <phitoo_> Hello all! Just tried to upgrade to KDE 4.3 from the PPA, but aptitude upgrade just goes into a non-stop Resolving dependencies... Anyone seen that?
[22:37] <Zvezdichko> Hello
[22:37] <Zvezdichko> Just tried to install KDE 4.3.0 but when I restart X I get : can't find /usr/bin/startkde
[22:37] <shadeslayer> phitoo_: there are currently unmet dependencies for qt 4.5.1
[22:37] <phitoo_> shadeslayer: Thanks. So scratch that upgrade...
[22:38] <shadeslayer> i think a line should be added in the topic
[22:41] <Zvezdichko> uh? is anybody familiar with what I'm talking about?
[22:42] <bhuey> how do I get the latest 4.3 kde for ubuntu easily ?
[22:42] <bhuey> topic ?
[22:43] <Zvezdichko> bhuey: you should add deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu jaunty main to /etc/apt/sources.list
[22:43] <Zvezdichko> and do an upgrade and dist-upgrade
[22:43] <Zvezdichko> but unfortunately the same operation completely broke my KDE :(
[22:44] <Zvezdichko> can't find /ust/bin/startkde
[22:45] <ghostcube> hmmm i updated to 4.3.0 right at the moment and now pure white screen after login
[22:45] <ghostcube> anyone knows what this could be
[22:46] <Zvezdichko> ghostcube: Same problem!
[22:46] <Zvezdichko> But nobody writes here
[22:57] <bobbob1016> I just updated to 4.3 and I get a white screen with the network icon and a quick access plasmoid in my upper left corner, any ideas?
[22:57] <bhuey> Zvezdichko: just did that, I'm running ubuntu, btw, not kubuntu
[22:57] <bhuey> there's a lot of package collisions
[22:57] <bhuey> I'm tempted not to manuallly deal with this
[22:58] <bobbob1016> So no idea on how to fix that?
[22:58] <Zvezdichko> I don't know
[22:58] <Zvezdichko> I have no KDE
[22:59] <Zvezdichko> Now I use GNOME which I personally dislike :(
[22:59] <toby_> Just updated to 4.3, when I log in I get a white screen and no kicker bar. Anyone else got this?
[22:59] <odla> is toby_ bobbob1016 ?
[22:59] <Zvezdichko> toby_: Several people here
[22:59] <bobbob1016> toby_: I was just saying the same thing
[23:00] <odla> probably something with ~/.kde i bet
[23:00] <Zvezdichko> No
[23:00] <odla> you could create a new user and see if that fixes it?
[23:00] <Zvezdichko> there's no /usr/bin/startkde
[23:00] <Zvezdichko> :)
[23:00] <odla> oh really?
[23:00] <toby_> It happens on both (old) users on my machine
[23:01] <odla> maybe it would be proper to put don't upgrade to 4.3 in the topics or are kubuntu user guinea pigs?
[23:01] <Zvezdichko> root@zvezdichko:/home/svetlio# /usr/bin/startkde
[23:01] <Zvezdichko> bash: /usr/bin/startkde: No such file or directory
[23:01] <bobbob1016> Zvezdichko: So, how do I get /usr/bin/startkde?  Just a symlink or something, right?
[23:01] <Zvezdichko> it isn't a symlink
[23:01] <Zvezdichko> it's the startup script that's required to run KDE
[23:01] <bobbob1016> how is it generated then?
[23:02] <genii> Zvezdichko: Maybe it's in /usr/local/bin
[23:02] <toby_> I just made a new user, the problem is still there.
[23:03] <Yuki> yeaaa
[23:03] <Yuki> KDE
[23:03] <Yuki> It's been a long time, my friend...
[23:03] <shadowhywind> hay all, I installed kde 4.3 today, and now after I log in, it just displays the login wallpaper, and nothing else. If i do 'startx' all i get is a black screen no mouse, any ideas?
[23:03] <toby_> Okay, I have to go to bed - Good luck guys. I'll check my IRC logs in the morning. Hope you fix it by then! :)
[23:03] <bobbob1016> I see startkde in /usr/local/bin
[23:03] <Yuki> the startx issue occurs because you have no .xinitrc
[23:04] <Yuki> or any such x init file to tell it to run a windowmanager
[23:04] <Yuki> beyond that, i don't have anything else to say :/
[23:04] <odla> i think the kubuntu developers probably shouldn't have announced the availability of kde 4.3 packages unless they had time to thoroughly test them ... it seems they are broken
[23:04] <shadowhywind> odla: oh fun!
[23:05] <shadowhywind> any ideas on how to get a workin kde again? a downgrade perhaps?
[23:05] <Zvezdichko> shadowhywind: We are struggling here
[23:05] <odla> shadowhywind: yup ... every other minute someone is complaining about how upgrading to 4.3 broke kde
[23:05] <Zvezdichko> my suggestion is to calm down and wait
[23:05] <Zvezdichko> probably everything will be fixed tomorrow
[23:05] <shadowhywind> *snickers*
[23:05] <Zvezdichko> no need to downgrade
[23:05] <Zvezdichko> just wait for somebody to fix this mess
[23:06] <shadowhywind> The fun part, right before i did the upgrade I was like, It has been a while since I have done a full system backup, maybe I should do that before the install, nah! hehe
[23:07] <Zvezdichko> We all know that KDE 4.3.0 is unsupported until October
[23:07] <Zvezdichko> sometimes broken packages appear in Ubuntu
[23:07] <Yuki> shadowhywind: lol
[23:07] <Zvezdichko> probably ne need of a full backup
[23:07] <odla> shadowhywind: you could always install another window manager until kde is fixed ... like openbox or something
[23:07] <Zvezdichko> I've no fear about my data
[23:08] <shadowhywind> *nod* I was also tempted just to upgrade to the karmic for fun, but I think I will wait till I do my backup first, hehe
[23:08] <odla> shadowhywind: you could also install lxde
[23:08] <shadowhywind> lxde?
[23:08] <waltzingalong> lxde, openbox, yeha
[23:09] <darthanubis> Yes! KDE is final
[23:09] <odla> shadowhywind: it's a very lightweight desktop w/ openbox as it's window manager
[23:09] <waltzingalong> !info lxde | shadeslayer
[23:10] <waltzingalong> its*
[23:10] <aleksey> привет
[23:10] <waltzingalong> ouch
[23:10] <Zvezdichko> HEY!
[23:10] <Zvezdichko> An update!
[23:11] <Zvezdichko> you need to insert two lines in /etc/apt/sources.list!
[23:11] <Zvezdichko> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu jaunty main
[23:11] <Zvezdichko> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/staging/ubuntu jaunty main
[23:11] <Riddell> ** note for KDE 4.3 you need both backports and staging PPAs currently
[23:11] <Riddell> as Zvezdichko says
[23:22] <Zvezdichko> Just added the two lines in /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:22] <Zvezdichko> did and upgrade
[23:23] <Zvezdichko> KDE 4.3 still won't load
[23:23] <Earthwings> Riddell: that was a really smooth upgrade, great work :)
[23:23] <Zvezdichko> There's no /usr/bin/startkde script
[23:23] <stealth-> whats the kde burning app called again?
[23:23] <stealth-> *cd burning
[23:23] <phh> k3b
[23:23] <Earthwings> stealth-: k3b?
[23:23] <BluesKaj> Zvezdichko, after adding the repos did you , sudo aptitude upgrade  ?
[23:24] <stealth-> yeah, thats it, thanks guys
[23:24] <Earthwings> Zvezdichko: it is part of kdebase-workspace-bin
[23:24] <Zvezdichko> I use apt-get upgrade
[23:24] <Zvezdichko> I'll see
[23:25] <Earthwings> Zvezdichko: apt-cache policy kdebase-workspace-bin
[23:25] <Zvezdichko> I have no kdebase-workspace installed
[23:26] <Earthwings> Zvezdichko: me neither
[23:27] <Zvezdichko> Startkde script appeared in /usr/bin
[23:28] <Zvezdichko> restarting X to see what happened
[23:28] <Granada25> hola a todos
[23:28] <pein> hello
[23:29] <genii> !es | Granada25
[23:29] <Granada25> sorry
[23:31] <pein> i have a problem when i'm trying to install kde 4.3 on my ubuntu (jaunty)
[23:31] <pein> http://pastebin.com/m11b688a1
[23:35] <Chuso> hi, I have just upgraded to kde 4.3 and something went wrong. After login in kdm, it only display the cursor and a black background (no icons)
[23:35] <darthanubis> Yeah there are packages held back
[23:36] <darthanubis> I think they are stilll updating the repos
[23:36] <darthanubis> my install or upgrade was borked because of kde-icons-oxygen package
[23:38] <Zvezdichko> much thanks! KDE now loads again
[23:40] <bdgraue> darthanubis: try   sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-icons-oxygen_4%3a4.3.0-0ubuntu1~jaunty1~ppa1_all.deb
[23:40] <bdgraue> darthanubis: if this was the package
[23:40] <bdgraue> darthanubis: and after that sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[23:40] <pein> I can't install kde 4.3 on my ubuntu any help (error message http://pastebin.com/m11b688a1)
[23:42] <||ugh> To whom ever figured out that staging was needed for 4.3, thanks, I was in the middle of writing a problem report!
[23:44] <darthanubis> bdgraue: wish I had of asked first insstead of lettign it remove everything. now there are many dependency errors
[23:45] <bdgraue> darthanubis: sudo apt-get -f install     may help
[23:45] <||ugh> darthanubis, go check out the http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.3 page, they added a line that add the missing bits.
[23:47] <bdgraue> ||ugh: he had an other problem in first place :)
[23:47] <darthanubis> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/staging/ubuntu jaunty main
[23:47] <darthanubis> must be that line
[23:47] <darthanubis> where that come from?
[23:47] <Riddell> pein: can you paste  apt-cache policy kde  ?
[23:47] <bdgraue> pein: try install kde-core instead
[23:47] <||ugh> Don't know, but it's fixed my issues with the new system.
[23:48] <Riddell> darthanubis: I added it
[23:48] <bobbob1016> Zvezdichko: So what did you do to fix the white screen?
[23:49] <pein> Riddell : http://pastebin.com/d1328fb9e
[23:52] <Riddell> pein: try adding the staging archive to /etc/apt/sources.list  (see updated story on kubuntu.org)
[23:52] <Riddell> pein: and it's called "kde-full" now so try installing that
[23:54] <pein> thank you  my problem is solved now :)
[23:54] <Riddell> phew
[23:55]  * genii feeds Riddell some cookies for sustenance
[23:57] <wers> is there a way to install vanilla kde 4.3? if so, how?
[23:58] <Riddell> wers: what do you want vanilla about it?
[23:58] <wers> Riddell, i prefer a minimalistic kde install
[23:58] <wers> Riddell, and oh. It's an honor to talk to you =)
[23:59] <shadeslayer> Riddell: hey,can you tell me where i can find the svn of webkitkde