[10:00] pitti, where are you hiding today? ;-) [10:07] seb128: with the security team, to discuss executable file handling policy [10:07] pitti, ok, I'm available for login speed or apport when you want [10:08] shouldn't take long any more [10:19] pitti: care to take a look at bug 408600? It hits all poor ubuntuone users out there ;) [10:19] Launchpad bug 408600 in pyinotify "pyinotify's libc version check fails on Karmic" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/408600 [10:22] kklimonda: sure, will sponsor [11:26] seb128, pitti: I'm a bit puzzled about one thing in mime association. If I make a file -i xxx and getting applications/ogg, the file seems to match the following mime types in mimeinfo.cache: [11:27] application/x-ogg, application/ogg, audio/ogg are taken into account in the "open with" box but video/ogg is not matched. Where is the magic? :) [11:27] In addition to this, the priority (without defaults.list) is matched on the first element in the audio/ogg line independently to its location in mimeinfo.cache. [11:27] didrocks, file is not using the shared-mime-info database [11:28] didrocks, /usr/share/mime/packages/freedesktop.org.xml has the magic detection [11:28] [11:28] and .ogv [11:28] is what shared mime info is using [11:28] seb128: oh ok. Is there a magic command to know what is the accurate mime file using this additional rules? [11:29] the xdgmime can use the filename or content [11:29] they call that fast or slow detection I think [11:29] the defaults.list ordering is not revelant [11:29] it's meant to list one default by mimetype [11:29] not to have a sorted list [11:29] same for the cache file [11:29] seb128: yes. I was talking about the ordering in mimeinfo.cache in fact [11:30] yes, that's confirm what I experience here [11:30] that's why we said we need to change the cache semantic [11:30] seb128: I'm just a bit confused about the mime.cache and mimeinfo.cache (on the xdg list they assume that mimeinfo.cache is only a GNOME thing) [11:30] there is no mime.cache? [11:31] seb128: on the xdg list, they say that mime.cache is what should be used and that mimeinfo.cache is GNOME specific thing [11:31] oh, that's a cache of all the shared mime info datas [11:31] it doesn't have default selection choice, etc [11:32] bryce: where r u? [11:33] rickspencer31, he was in front of you 1 minute ago before you moved [11:33] rickspencer31, still there [11:33] ie sitting just next to me and pitti [11:33] seb128: so, if mimeinfo.cache is specific to GNOME, it would be difficult to make the changes apply to fdo [11:33] didrocks, http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xdg/2008-January/009112.html [11:34] didrocks, read this discussion [11:34] ok, thanks. Reading it now :) [11:34] didrocks, the whole discussion rather than this specific email I think [11:35] seb128: yes, I've already head to the root of it :) [11:53] Morning. [11:54] Does anyone know why I'm missing icons on all my right-click menus on karmic? http://spooky.ubuntuwire.com/~jpds/2009-08-04-115224_1280x800_scrot.png [11:54] I'm created a brand-new user, changed icon themes, but I still get no icons... [11:56] jpds: that's upstream decision [11:57] jpds: http://www.andreasn.se/blog/?p=103 & http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=557469 [11:57] Error: Could not parse XML returned by Gnome: timed out (http://bugzilla.gnome.org/xml.cgi?id=557469) [11:59] How annoying. [14:49] hey all, bug #400485 is one I think should be looked at by you guys :-) [14:49] Launchpad bug 400485 in ubuntu-sounds "Empathy sounds not in default ubuntu theme" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/400485 [15:14] seb128: https://edge.launchpad.net/~asac/+archive/ppa/+files/gnome-bluetooth_2.27.8-0ubuntu1~asac.dsc [15:28] pitti: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libmbca/+bug/408763 [15:28] Launchpad bug 408763 in libmbca "remove from archive" [Undecided,New] [15:30] mat_t, I've taken a photo of the revised Empathy welcome screen with your camera, so if you could connect it up sometime today that would be smashing :-) [15:34] vuntz: hey === crevette_ is now known as crevette [15:36] pitti: ho! [15:37] vuntz: I'm planning to start working on the gnome-menus caching, FYI [15:37] jpds: bug #407621 [15:37] Launchpad bug 407621 in libgnome "(design decision) Icons missing from context menu , dialogue buttons , firefox bookmark favicons" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/407621 [15:37] jpds: i'v sent a mail to the list too , regarding this [15:38] vuntz: I wondered whether you have some advice where to do the cache lookup [15:38] vuntz: would it be sensible to hook it into gmenu_tree_lookup()? [15:38] vuntz: and if you want applications.menu, it'd look into /var/cache/gnome-menu/applications.menu.bin or so? [15:39] pitti: hrm, I probably would do a general cache, not one that is specific to menus [15:40] pitti: eg, if you want to find a mime handler, you need to look at the desktop files too [15:45] salut a tous [15:46] vuntz: right, but in order for it to make sense, we need to check for the caches seldomly and load the entire menu in one go; with one cache per desktop file it'd quickly loose its value? [15:48] * mclasen points out that gio might be a better place to do general appinfo caching [15:48] pitti: well, I guess it's up to the caller to know when it needs to look at many desktop files [15:49] pitti: I just don't think organizing it on a per-menu file is right [15:49] vuntz: okay, I'm open to suggestions; admittedly it's the first time I look into the gnome-menus api [15:53] pitti, can you sponsor bug 403575? it breaks desktopcouch [15:53] Launchpad bug 403575 in couchdb "Incorrect permissions or group membership to get /etc/couchdb" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/403575 [15:57] kenvandine: done [15:57] awesome [15:57] thanks! [16:01] pitti: well, it really shouldn't appear in the API anyway :-) [16:01] vuntz: *nod* [16:02] asac, [16:02] " seb128: that code is exported twice to the internal apps, once through the public library, once through the local library [16:02] seb128: it's supposed to be fine" [16:02] asac, that's the issue for pretty sure [16:02] I think that's something uncorrect [16:03] and our toolchain expose the issue where other distributions' ones don't [16:03] could be a flag we turn on somewhere [16:05] vuntz: so gmenu-tree.c already uses an internal cache (gmenu_tree_cache) which we could pre-populate in gmenu_tree_new() from a fast mmap-based cache [16:05] vuntz: however, would that actually help us so much? [16:05] vuntz: i. e. the bulk of the time is certainly spent reading hte .desktop files, not the .menu files? [16:08] pitti: what you want to replace is probably something like _entry_directory_list_get_all_desktops() [16:10] vuntz: ah, thanks for the hint [16:10] * pitti -> meeting [16:21] mpt: np [16:36] bigon: hi , could you take a look at this Bug #408913 [16:36] Launchpad bug 408913 in telepathy-idle "telepathy-idle crashed with SIGSEGV in g_main_context_dispatch()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/408913 [17:56] rickspencer31: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Specs/KarmicFusa?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=fusa_2.png [17:57] rickspencer31: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Specs/KarmicFusa [17:58] awe: DEB_DH_INSTALLINIT_ARGS [18:24] tedg: is fusa going to force display of the user face icon (perhaps only if it's actually been set)? [18:24] I take back my hate of the icon dropping change since I realised I can force it on for the two icons in my menu that desparately need it ;) [18:25] Ng: Yes, I believe it'll have icons if they're set. [18:26] Ng: But, since they're in your home directory. I'm not sure how useful it'll be with encrypted homes... === Fluffles is now known as Cuddles [18:35] fta - someone else reported the same issue as you now with incorrect space remaining on the low disk space warning [18:35] are you running 32bit install? [18:35] yes [18:35] that might be why you see it and i cant reproduce it [18:36] fsblkcnt_t in 64-bits on a 64-bit install isn't it? [18:36] anyway, i can see where it goes wrong now [18:39] chrisccoulson, http://paste.ubuntu.com/247364/ [18:41] chrisccoulson, and in 64bit mode: http://paste.ubuntu.com/247366/ [18:42] cool, thanks! [18:44] (both are from my 32bit box) [18:47] chrisccoulson, imho, it's just that at some point, you have f_frsize * f_bavail in a 32bit variable, which is wrong [19:29] hi all [19:30] does anybody have a strange wrong webcam zoom effect using compiz ? === _mrputa_ is now known as mrputa [19:33] Hi All [19:33] does anybody have a strange wrong webcam zoom effect using compiz ? [21:04] hrmm [21:04] any universe sponsors about? [21:10] dobey: yeah, what's up? [21:11] james_w: bug #406413 [21:11] Launchpad bug 406413 in testresources "Please update python-testresources to new 0.2 upstream release" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/406413 [21:11] james_w: just wondering if we can get that in :) [22:12] fta - could you test a PPA build of g-s-d shortly? [22:12] (sorry, just got back from dinner) [22:13] sure, direct link? [22:13] i'll give you it once it's uploaded [22:13] i should test it quickly here first ;) [22:31] fta - i've uploaded it to https://edge.launchpad.net/~chrisccoulson/+archive/ppa [22:31] (but it hasn't built just yet) [22:38] i386 is built now:) === Cuddles is now known as Fluffles === Fluffles is now known as Cuddles [23:32] asac: ping, found a patch for OOo for xulrunner 1.9.1 [23:32] asac: emailed you the link to it