| a|wen | that looks like some more MIR work coming up ^^^ | 00:03 |
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| a|wen | ewoerner: please add a bug report about it (unless it already exists) ... will need some work to get libgps included in the supported part of ubuntu | 00:08 |
| ewoerner | a|wen: i currently don't have any launchpad account | 00:09 |
| ewoerner | that's why the quick drop-by ;-) | 00:09 |
| ghostcube_ | ok i renamed .kde | 00:10 |
| ghostcube_ | and started a new one | 00:10 |
| ghostcube_ | working | 00:10 |
| ghostcube_ | :| | 00:10 |
| ghostcube_ | i hate this | 00:10 |
| ghostcube_ | but 4.3.0 is nice | 00:10 |
| ghostcube_ | :D | 00:10 |
| ghostcube_ | and compiz works too | 00:10 |
| ewoerner | oh, and the gps support in marble is provided by a plugin | 00:10 |
| ghostcube_ | i love th etree view in systemsettings | 00:11 |
| ghostcube_ | its like kcontrol | 00:11 |
| ghostcube_ | i love it | 00:11 |
| ghostcube_ | :) | 00:11 |
| a|wen | ewoerner: the plugin is in kdeedu source? | 00:15 |
| ewoerner | a|wen: yes | 00:15 |
| ewoerner | marble/src/plugins/positionprovider/gpsd | 00:15 |
| a|wen | ewoerner: bug 409104 <-- Riddell | 00:16 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 409104 in kdeedu "kdeedu should builddepend on libgps-dev for marble gps support" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/409104 | 00:16 |
| ewoerner | just out of curiosity: what does MIR mean? | 00:17 |
| a|wen | ewoerner: Main Inclusion Report ... we need to get them in main (part of officially supported ubuntu) to build and use them | 00:18 |
| ewoerner | ah | 00:18 |
| ewoerner | ok, thank you | 00:20 |
| ewoerner | night everybody | 00:20 |
| milian | 9.04 update to KDE 4.3 wants qt 4.5.1 but only 4.5.0 is found - is that known? | 00:20 |
| a|wen | milian: you temporarily needs to add "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/staging/ubuntu jaunty main" | 00:23 |
| a|wen | milian: the new qt didn't want to copy (damn PPAs); will work as soon as qt finishes building in the backports ppa | 00:24 |
| * shtylman is still fighting with qt model/view and KCategorizedView | 00:33 | |
| * shtylman and is loosing... | 00:33 | |
| milian | a|wen: so it will be fixed eventually? I can wait a few days ;-) | 00:33 |
| * a|wen cheers on shtylman | 00:34 | |
| a|wen | milian: sure ... it is already building, so it is a matter of a few hours | 00:34 |
| milian | ok, great - thanks! | 00:35 |
| milian | btw, which qt version is cooking there right now? | 00:35 |
| milian | 4.5.1? | 00:35 |
| milian | would be a shame... | 00:35 |
| milian | -shame +waste of time | 00:35 |
| Riddell | 4.5.2 | 00:35 |
| milian | yes, very good :) | 00:35 |
| milian | ok, then I'm off to bed, waiting for tomorrow | 00:35 |
| milian | thanks all | 00:35 |
| gon | who mantain kubuntu-backpors ppa? | 00:36 |
| a|wen | milian: nn, good luck with kde 4.3 tomorrow | 00:36 |
| gon | 4.3 in jaunty require qt 4.5.1 | 00:37 |
| gon | but is not available in jaunty | 00:37 |
| a|wen | gon: you temporarily needs to add "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/staging/ubuntu jaunty main" - the new qt didn't want to copy (damn PPAs); will work as soon as qt finishes building in the backports ppa | 00:37 |
| * a|wen feels like repeating himself | 00:37 | |
| gon | ! | 00:38 |
| gon | thanks =) | 00:39 |
| a|wen | the new qt should luckily finish build in less than 4 hours | 00:39 |
| gon | =) | 00:41 |
| ghostcube | hmmm the system wont start compiz automaticly seems to be an little bug | 00:43 |
| ghostcube | :) | 00:43 |
| ghostcube | but the rest works fine | 00:43 |
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| * shtylman wants the new qt and hopes it resolves his problems...but probly wont.... (tear) | 01:04 | |
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| shtylman | Riddell: | 01:31 |
| shtylman | http://imagebin.ca/view/56JlIijO.html | 01:31 |
| shtylman | that is my usability mockup for the printer screen | 01:31 |
| Riddell | cor | 01:31 |
| shtylman | when the user clicks the printer settings icon..that would open up...and they navigate everywhere from here... | 01:31 |
| shtylman | thoughts? | 01:31 |
| Riddell | shtylman: open up how? within the same window? | 01:31 |
| shtylman | yea | 01:31 |
| shtylman | a kcmmodule or whatever they are called | 01:32 |
| shtylman | settings might open up a new window...but I would prefer to keep it in the same window | 01:32 |
| shtylman | maybe have a breadcrumb up top...or not... | 01:32 |
| shtylman | dunno yet.. | 01:32 |
| Riddell | system settings is ment to be all within one window really | 01:32 |
| Riddell | looks lovely to me, as ever check with celeste | 01:32 |
| shtylman | k | 01:32 |
| shtylman | mainly...I want this to be the first screen they see | 01:32 |
| shtylman | and if there are no printers maybe a hint to *add* some | 01:33 |
| shtylman | this will also work well for people with lots of network printers (that might have been autodetected) | 01:33 |
| shtylman | seele: http://imagebin.ca/view/56JlIijO.html | 01:33 |
| shtylman | I am aiming to have that be the entry point for all printer configuration related activities... | 01:33 |
| Riddell | dtchen: pulseaudio-module-rygel-media-server--dbg ? | 01:34 |
| Riddell | is that double dash intended? | 01:34 |
| shtylman | Riddell: there was one more action I wanted to add...but for the life of me can't remember it right now... | 01:34 |
| seele | shtylman: so i guess youre not using the previous design proposal? | 01:37 |
| seele | shtylman: is that the SS menu or is that after you click on the SS printer object? | 01:37 |
| shtylman | that is after you click the SS printer object | 01:38 |
| shtylman | seele: so...the reason I wanted to design it like this is two fold... | 01:38 |
| shtylman | I think that the one column icon list can become too cluttered for people with multiple printers... | 01:39 |
| shtylman | I can do a mockup with one column if you like? | 01:39 |
| shtylman | it is easy to do | 01:39 |
| seele | well the thing is, the design was created so it would fit in with all the other KCMs | 01:39 |
| shtylman | my main fear is when the number of printers gets large (think networked printers) then a single column no longer works well...at least not without a search box | 01:40 |
| shtylman | k | 01:40 |
| shtylman | lemme try a single column list really quick... | 01:40 |
| seele | i think the primary use case we designed for was home user, not large networked office user | 01:40 |
| seele | (that info should be on the printing wiki page i think) | 01:40 |
| shtylman | k | 01:40 |
| * Riddell snoozes | 01:40 | |
| shtylman | oh..and another problem was that you can't have menus | 01:41 |
| shtylman | this means that I can't have a settings menu and instead need to bring the *settings* type options into a list or buttons | 01:41 |
| maco | how big is a large networked office? i work in a set of 2 townhouses in a company with only about a dozen people, and we have...maybe 8 printers? | 01:41 |
| maco | wow wait..we have like one printer per person that actually works in the office instead of telecommuting | 01:42 |
| shtylman | this includes an icon for add printer, settings, and (there was one more thing...I swear) but can't think of it... | 01:42 |
| seele | shtylman: have you *seen* the old print design proposal? | 01:43 |
| seele | like, the wireframes, not what has been done thusfar | 01:43 |
| * seele doesnt remember menu items | 01:43 | |
| shtylman | yea | 01:46 |
| shtylman | you mean the pdf right? | 01:46 |
| shtylman | seele: http://imagebin.ca/view/e8BhEb.html | 01:46 |
| shtylman | better? | 01:46 |
| * shtylman is looking at a pdf that has wireframe mockups | 01:46 | |
| shtylman | I could even do a two column layout... | 01:50 |
| shtylman | :) | 01:50 |
| shtylman | so what do you think works best? | 01:50 |
| vorian | sheesh maco, you olf talk selection people are harsh | 02:55 |
| vorian | 2 YEARS IN A ROW - SHOT DOWN :( | 02:55 |
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| Blizzz | hi. i get qt updates from backports, i guess the issue is solved with them and so staging is not need any longer on jaunty, am i right? | 07:06 |
| a|wen_ | Blizzz: true | 07:40 |
| Blizzz | a|wen_: excellent. the staging-hint should be removed from the announcement then | 07:42 |
| a|wen_ | ryanakca / Riddell: ^^ | 07:42 |
| a|wen_ | Blizzz: indeed ... let's see when someone with website powers coma about | 07:44 |
| Blizzz | jep | 07:44 |
| Nightrose | folks upgrade from rc3 to 4.3 gives me: | 08:54 |
| Nightrose | The following packages will be REMOVED: | 08:54 |
| Nightrose | libkholidays4 | 08:54 |
| Nightrose | is that ok? | 08:54 |
| Blizzz | Nightrose: i suppose, korganizer still offers and shows them | 08:57 |
| Nightrose | heh | 08:58 |
| Nightrose | JontheEchidna: ^ | 08:58 |
| Nightrose | do you know? | 08:58 |
| Riddell | Nightrose: libkholidays4 is gone, fine to remove | 09:04 |
| Nightrose | thx Riddell | 09:04 |
| Stecchino | just upgrade to 4.3 using kubuntu-ppa packages. Get this output before crash: http://pastebin.org/6624 | 09:19 |
| Stecchino | moved plasmarc and plasma-appletsrc out of the way. Still the same problem | 09:19 |
| Stecchino | known problem? | 09:19 |
| Riddell | Stecchino: hmm crap, I suspect that's my fault | 09:26 |
| Riddell | there's a patch in there which I didn't write very well and I havn't got round to fixing it | 09:26 |
| Stecchino | Riddell: aseigo in #plasma said something about the packages being borked | 09:26 |
| Riddell | I should just remove it from the jaunty package | 09:26 |
| Stecchino | Riddell: how long before i can test? | 09:27 |
| Riddell | Stecchino: an hour probably | 09:28 |
| * Stecchino runs it in gdb to make sure | 09:28 | |
| Stecchino | crap, no stack | 09:29 |
| Riddell | kdebase-workspace-dbg may help | 09:30 |
| Stecchino | oh, I installed kdebase-dbg | 09:38 |
| Stecchino | Riddell: nope, already had the -dbg really can not get a stack trace | 09:39 |
| Stecchino | gdb plasma-desktop args=--nofork | 09:40 |
| Stecchino | Riddell: stacktrace: http://pastebin.org/6626 | 09:41 |
| davmor2 | Riddell: did you fix it? | 10:19 |
| davmor2 | Riddell: nevermind answer is on cdimages :) | 10:20 |
| Riddell | davmor2: hum, no http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/livefs-build-logs/karmic/kubuntu/20090805/livecd-20090805-i386.out | 10:23 |
| Riddell | I wonder why not | 10:23 |
| davmor2 | cups | 10:23 |
| davmor2 | 64bit is another issue though | 10:23 |
| Riddell | yeah but system-config-printer-kde should be sorted | 10:23 |
| Riddell | let me look | 10:23 |
| davmor2 | ah Riddell has cups been hal depreciated? if so then it might just be a cast of changing the seed so it doesn't pull in the hal-cups-utils. I am thinking out aloud here so feel free to mock :) | 10:26 |
| Riddell | erk kubuntu-desktop depends directly on hal-cups-utils | 10:26 |
| Riddell | you are entirely correct | 10:26 |
| davmor2 | Riddell: Yay is slowly learning to diagnose stuff from error messages :) | 10:28 |
| Stecchino | Riddell: package build? | 10:33 |
| Riddell | Stecchino: yes should be, try an update, you're looking for kdebase-workspace - 4:4.3.0-0ubuntu1~jaunty1~ppa4 | 10:34 |
| Riddell | davmor2: new kubuntu-meta uploaded, we'll need to wait for it hit the archives then I'll rebuild the CDs | 10:37 |
| davmor2 | Riddell: Yay :) | 10:38 |
| Stecchino | Riddell: it's fixed | 10:42 |
| Stecchino | thx | 10:42 |
| Riddell | Stecchino: ok sorry about that, I really need to find an hour to fix that patch | 10:43 |
| Stecchino | Riddell: asiego offered to help BTW | 10:44 |
| Riddell | Stecchino: I have notes from him from when he looked at the patch, it's just silly coding errors of mine but I've utterly failed to find the time to look at it | 10:45 |
| Riddell | maybe today I will, keep poking me | 10:45 |
| Quintasan | bug #408962 | 10:51 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 408962 in plasma-runner-kopete "plasma-runner-kopete needs updating to version 0.3" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/408962 | 10:52 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: ^ | 10:52 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: let me look | 11:00 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: 0.3 is already in the archive | 11:03 |
| Quintasan | -_- | 11:05 |
| Quintasan | really? | 11:05 |
| Riddell | https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-runner-kopete says so | 11:05 |
| Riddell | some chap called Michał Zając packaged it | 11:05 |
| Quintasan | That would be me, but I don't remember doing it for 0.3 O_O | 11:06 |
| Riddell | ha ha :) | 11:06 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: Well, if you have some time please take a look at - http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/kpassgen | 11:08 |
| Riddell | NCommander: did you need that CD I burnt? | 11:09 |
| NCommander | Riddell, no, because my HDD committed suicide | 11:10 |
| Riddell | poor thing | 11:10 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: commented | 11:26 |
| Riddell | revu login doesn't seem to work in arora :( | 11:26 |
| Quintasan | I think I found alternative to Acetone ISO since it uses too copyright images and upstream was too busy/lazy to give me a reply | 11:27 |
| ghostcube | hi | 11:42 |
| ghostcube | hmmm i think i found a bug :D | 12:03 |
| ghostcube | -_- | 12:03 |
| ghostcube | maybe | 12:03 |
| Nightrose | update notifier icon is missing in kde 4.3 rc3 and final (at least) | 12:22 |
| Nightrose | known problem? | 12:22 |
| Nightrose | missing icon ? in the systray looks rather ugly | 12:23 |
| Riddell | NCommander: the restart icon changed name | 12:27 |
| Riddell | Nightrose: rather | 12:27 |
| Riddell | so that won't get shown | 12:27 |
| Nightrose | ok | 12:31 |
| * Nightrose just saw the new KDM theme for the first time | 12:31 | |
| Nightrose | sooooo beautiful | 12:31 |
| Riddell | exclusive to Kubuntu too :) | 12:34 |
| Riddell | (and any other distro that applied the patch) | 12:34 |
| Nightrose | hehe | 12:35 |
| ghostcube | fellows anyone wants to test something with kde 4.3.0 and copiz as dafault wm | 12:37 |
| Nightrose | hmm after logging in, when the loading is shown I get a blackish wallpaper - not sure if I set that at some point or if that is a kubuntu thing | 12:37 |
| ghostcube | there is a little weird bug | 12:37 |
| Nightrose | can I change that somewhere? | 12:37 |
| Nightrose | it doesn't fit with air at all | 12:37 |
| * Nightrose can't find where to change that | 12:37 | |
| ghostcube | i changed kdm style lol to the old one and i get the blue walli between loadings | 12:38 |
| ghostcube | rofl | 12:38 |
| ghostcube | kde 4.3.0 isnt starting compiz as default wm seems to forget to load the option | 12:38 |
| ghostcube | oO | 12:38 |
| Nightrose | ahhhh | 12:40 |
| Nightrose | splash screen in system settings | 12:40 |
| Nightrose | but i can't seem to change the wallpaper | 12:40 |
| * Nightrose installs new theme | 12:41 | |
| Nightrose | hmmm doesn't work | 12:43 |
| Riddell | Nightrose: no black wallpaper from us, it's the default KDE blueish one | 12:44 |
| Riddell | Nightrose: set it with right click on desktop -> Desktop Settings | 12:44 |
| Nightrose | Riddell: you get a blue wallpaper when the splash screen shows? | 12:44 |
| Nightrose | no i don't mean the real desktop wallpaper | 12:45 |
| Riddell | Nightrose: the startup ksplash? yes | 12:45 |
| Nightrose | jep | 12:45 |
| Nightrose | hmmm | 12:45 |
| * Nightrose is puzzled | 12:46 | |
| Nightrose | aha! | 12:48 |
| Nightrose | all the other air splash screens on kde-apps probably try to replace the one i already have | 12:48 |
| Nightrose | downloading another one works | 12:48 |
| davmor2 | Riddell: we got a new iso yet? | 12:50 |
| Riddell | davmor2: yes but I the logs havn't synced yet so I don't know if it actually built a new live fs | 12:52 |
| Riddell | davmor2: hmm, looks like it failed on a random mirror issue http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/livefs-build-logs/karmic/kubuntu/20090805.1/livecd-20090805.1-amd64.out | 13:05 |
| Riddell | no, same old udev/hal conflict issue http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/livefs-build-logs/karmic/kubuntu/20090805.1/livecd-20090805.1-i386.out | 13:06 |
| desaparecido | hi, somebody has a blackscreen with last upgrade to kde 4.3 final release in Karmic? | 13:18 |
| micmord | desaparecido: I got it... but i realized having start a blockbox session | 13:18 |
| micmord | s/blockbox/Openbox | 13:20 |
| desaparecido | micmord, with fluxbox (in my case) all it's ok, but in kde session is a black screen but i can access to programs by alt+F2 :) | 13:21 |
| desaparecido | i don't have internet access, even with knetworkmanager, i can't understand | 13:22 |
| JontheEchidna | Quintasan: lol, I uploaded it for you last night | 13:24 |
| ghostcube | JontheEchidna: in the mood to confirm an compiz startup bug :) | 13:27 |
| ghostcube | on 4.30 | 13:27 |
| * JontheEchidna doesn't use compiz | 13:28 | |
| ghostcube | you dont need to use it normal only installed must it be | 13:29 |
| ghostcube | :D | 13:29 |
| ghostcube | ehm boah german grammar in english is bad ass | 13:29 |
| JontheEchidna | German must Yoda be :P | 13:30 |
| ghostcube | yeah | 13:32 |
| ghostcube | in german sounds like nur installiert muss es sein | 13:32 |
| ghostcube | :D | 13:32 |
| ghostcube | sounds ok | 13:33 |
| rgreening | ghostcube: I am your father... | 13:39 |
| ghostcube | nah | 13:40 |
| ghostcube | oO | 13:40 |
| ghostcube | iam to old for this | 13:40 |
| * rgreening bradishes saber | 13:40 | |
| ghostcube | :D | 13:40 |
| ghostcube | anyone can test this weird compiz startup bug | 13:40 |
| ghostcube | :) | 13:40 |
| * rgreening is knee deep in troubleshooting his system | 13:41 | |
| ghostcube | hmm i had this last nght after update to 4.3 | 13:41 |
| ghostcube | and ended in mv .kde to .kde-old | 13:42 |
| ghostcube | :D | 13:42 |
| rgreening | shtylman: ping | 13:54 |
| mgraesslin | JontheEchidna: fyi: I uploaded a new Aurorae release with GHNS support | 14:06 |
| Riddell | what's Aurorae mgraesslin? | 14:06 |
| mgraesslin | SVG based theme engine for KWin | 14:07 |
| Riddell | oh aye | 14:07 |
| mgraesslin | there's a package in karmic kwin-style-aurorae | 14:07 |
| JontheEchidna | mgraesslin: cool, I'll check it out | 14:07 |
| JontheEchidna | mgraesslin: the page still looks 0.1.1ish: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Aurorae+Theme+Engine?content=107158 | 14:08 |
| JontheEchidna | at least the tarball really is 0.2 | 14:12 |
| mgraesslin | somethings strange with kde-look | 14:12 |
| Riddell | davmor2: I found another dependency on hal-cups-utils, so it'll be another couple of hours before that fix gets into the archive | 14:13 |
| mgraesslin | if I click window decorations -> native there it says 0.2 | 14:13 |
| mgraesslin | seems to be some caching problems | 14:13 |
| Quintasan | JontheEchidna: :D | 14:16 |
| Quintasan | hmm | 14:16 |
| Quintasan | How do I check what graphic driver I'm using? | 14:16 |
| ghostcube | glxinfo grep Vendor | 14:16 |
| JontheEchidna | /var/log/Xorg.0.log is helpful | 14:16 |
| Quintasan | radeon | 14:18 |
| Quintasan | hmm | 14:18 |
| ghostcube | Quintasan: move .kde worked | 14:18 |
| ghostcube | all fine again now | 14:18 |
| ghostcube | seems the updates didnt like my settings | 14:18 |
| ghostcube | :D | 14:18 |
| Quintasan | see, I told you :P | 14:18 |
| ghostcube | but the compiz problem is weird | 14:19 |
| Quintasan | urgh, jockey-kde is boked | 14:20 |
| Quintasan | borked* | 14:20 |
| Quintasan | k, let's try fglrx | 14:25 |
| * Quintasan has sad experience with fglrx | 14:26 | |
| davmor2 | Riddell: meh okay :) | 14:29 |
| desaparecido | hi, i have a problem with kde 4.3 session, a blackscreen.. (after last upgrade, in karmic), somes ideas??? | 14:37 |
| ryanakca | Riddell: w.k.o/Kubuntu/Todo/Karmic says "Get rid of archive and downloads on the left", mind if I set in to only show the archive on say, www.k.o/news ? | 14:37 |
| Riddell | ryanakca: don't want want a news block somewhere? | 14:39 |
| Riddell | so the main page is an intro to kubuntu and the news becomes just headlines in a block somewhere? | 14:39 |
| Riddell | (which could include a link to www.k.o/news with the archives) | 14:40 |
| ryanakca | Riddell: Yes | 14:40 |
| ryanakca | Riddell: did you want to wait until I get it done before I move the "archive" block over? | 14:41 |
| ryanakca | by "archive" I mean the per month links to the stories / news | 14:41 |
| Riddell | ryanakca: yeah I think so | 14:41 |
| ghostcube | is kde 4.3.0 checking if glx is possible to enable or is it default setting | 14:44 |
| ghostcube | tthat effects are on | 14:44 |
| quintasan1 | as expetec of fglrx | 14:45 |
| * quintasan1 rages | 14:46 | |
| quintasan1 | yeah | 14:49 |
| quintasan1 | grrr | 14:50 |
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| micmord | I got problem on upgrade to KDE4.3, after three upgrade kde-icons-oxygen works. http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/248018/ | 15:03 |
| micmord | bug 409357 | 15:36 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 409357 in oxygen-icons "package kde-icons-oxygen not installed failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite `/usr/share/icons/oxygen/22x22/actions/pointer.png , which is also in package step" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/409357 | 15:36 |
| Riddell | micmord: fix uploaded, thanks | 15:55 |
| Riddell | was a typo at fault | 15:55 |
| ghostcube | sudo apt-get -f is youre friend | 15:55 |
| ghostcube | :) | 15:55 |
| ghostcube | but the update had noticed many dpkg errors | 15:56 |
| ghostcube | i needed apt-get -f install 3 times | 15:56 |
| ghostcube | till my kde 4.3 was on machine | 15:56 |
| ghostcube | many overrides | 15:56 |
| ghostcube | writes | 15:56 |
| Riddell | rgreening: I tried usb-creator-kde but something broke, it told me to look in the log file but didn't say which log file | 15:58 |
| Riddell | it seemed like hal crashed | 15:58 |
| Riddell | rgreening: -gtk broke just the same so it's nothing specific to you | 15:59 |
| allee | I'd added a fix for bug 390396 Next step is? To ping here? :) | 15:59 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 390396 in kdebase ""About Me" in System Settings throws an error when changing details" [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/390396 | 15:59 |
| Riddell | maybe I should poke evan | 15:59 |
| JontheEchidna | Riddell: Bille wants us to backport the knetworkmanager applet to our KDE 4.3 repo, I have it building in staging | 15:59 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: yeah saw that, seems like a good idea | 15:59 |
| JontheEchidna | once the i386 builder gets off it's ass I'll copy it over to backports | 16:00 |
| Riddell | allee: lovely | 16:00 |
| Riddell | allee: very good, I'll add that to the packaging | 16:03 |
| allee | thx | 16:04 |
| Riddell | allee: inface you can just add it to the packaging if you want to | 16:04 |
| Riddell | infact | 16:04 |
| allee | Riddell: mhmm never done this. But that's a good reason to do it. bzr here am I ... | 16:06 |
| Riddell | allee: bzr co lp:~kubuntu-members/kdebase-workspace/ubuntu | 16:06 |
| Riddell | put it in debian/patches with a sensible name, add to debian/patches/series, dch -i and bzr commit | 16:06 |
| allee | Riddell: ah, direct upload, no merge request necessary. great | 16:07 |
| Riddell | a privilage of membership :) | 16:08 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I just uploaded a fixed kds since the previous upload did ftbfs... | 16:13 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I've been quite away since I'm building my own company to start my new job, I'll be in canada for 6 weeks starting next week, so presumably with plenty of available time... | 16:14 |
| Tonio_ | can't wait | 16:14 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: goodness, what's happening in Canada? | 16:14 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: well I'll be employed by a canonical partner, based there, so 6 weeks is for the integration to the company | 16:15 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: next to that I'll work in france, from home | 16:15 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: so despite the fact I'm quite away from kubuntu atm, this is pretty cool for the future, as this will help me contribute more | 16:16 |
| Tonio_ | also since technically this company is my client, and I'll work on my own now :) | 16:16 |
| Tonio_ | hopefully I'll finally be able to help in making karmic our best release ever... | 16:16 |
| Tonio_ | I'm a bit ashamed of the relativelly poor level of contribution right now, but real life is sometimes the real priority ;) | 16:17 |
| Tonio_ | s/the leve of contribution/my level of contribution/ :) | 16:17 |
| Nightrose | is the facebook plugin for kopete available for jaunty somwhere? | 16:19 |
| Nightrose | kde 4.3 | 16:19 |
| Tonio_ | Nightrose: forget about it, it is buggy as hell :) | 16:24 |
| Tonio_ | Nightrose: it won't refresh the contact list, just as for example | 16:24 |
| Nightrose | hmmm | 16:25 |
| * JontheEchidna packages newest konvi alpha | 16:25 | |
| Nightrose | Tonio_: are there packages anyway? | 16:27 |
| * Nightrose would like to give it a try for fun and giggles | 16:27 | |
| Tonio_ | Nightrose: I don't think so, also, the backport shoudl be easy as long as kde 4.3 is packaged for jaunty | 16:28 |
| Nightrose | it is | 16:28 |
| Tonio_ | Nightrose: I think it won't build with 4.2 afair | 16:28 |
| Tonio_ | Nightrose: then you can just apt-get source && pbuilder, should work | 16:28 |
| Nightrose | meh - i thought i can avoid that - exam in twodays ;-) | 16:28 |
| Tonio_ | as long as you have the backport reposiroty in your pbuilderrc | 16:29 |
| Tonio_ | Nightrose: then go for the exams :) | 16:29 |
| allee | Riddell: commited (plus a typo fix in kubuntu_17_abort_string.diff) | 16:49 |
| * allee runs to the biergarten | 16:50 | |
| davmor2 | hey Riddell any joy yet? | 16:51 |
| Riddell | davmor2: new package just hit the archive, let's try a rebuilt | 16:54 |
| maco | allee: i did i spell cancel as "cancle" or some such? | 16:59 |
| ryanakca | Tonio_: Where will you be in Canada? | 16:59 |
| JontheEchidna | Any core-dev around that can sponsor bug 409406? | 17:00 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 409406 in konversation "New upstream release (Konversation 1.2 alpha5)" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/409406 | 17:00 |
| Tonio_ | ryanakca: nearby montreal | 17:01 |
| Tonio_ | ryanakca: Sherbrooke | 17:01 |
| Tonio_ | ryanakca: have to go, but we can discuss this later : | 17:02 |
| Tonio_ | ;) | 17:02 |
| davmor2 | Yay | 17:02 |
| ryanakca | Tonio_: Eh, only four and a bit hours away, have fun :) | 17:02 |
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| JontheEchidna | speaking of kopete-facebook... http://duncan.mac-vicar.com/blog/archives/557 | 17:29 |
| JontheEchidna | anybody take that one yet? | 17:30 |
| rgreening | JontheEchidna: I had asked ryanakca to look at it I believe (not sure if it got done) | 17:30 |
| JontheEchidna | I see QtCurve has made yet another release (seriously, damn) so I'll work on that then | 17:31 |
| * JontheEchidna found this interesting: http://ivan.fomentgroup.org/blog/2009/08/04/koffice-needs-you-and-we-need-koffice/ | 17:32 | |
| Riddell | davmor2: humph, still doesn't work | 17:34 |
| dpm | Riddell: quick question: where are the upstream tarballs for the kde-l10n-xx snapshots fetched from? | 17:54 |
| Riddell | dpm: ftp.kde.org | 17:54 |
| Riddell | pub/kde/stable/4.3.0/src/kde-l10n I think | 17:54 |
| Riddell | well that's the releases, the snapshots are in pub/kde/unstable/.. | 17:56 |
| Riddell | and appear sporadically | 17:56 |
| dpm | right, thanks | 18:14 |
| ryanakca | rgreening: You had asked me to do the plasmoid, I'm not sure who was doing the kopete plugin, Tonio_ was saying that "it is bugg as hell :)" a couple of hours ago | 18:17 |
| rgreening | ah. right.... JontheEchidna, try it if you like. :) | 18:18 |
| rgreening | thanks ryanakca | 18:18 |
| ryanakca | rgreening: As for the plasmoid, it's a bit of a PITA... plasma can't find the python module when I do a global install ( placing the files under /usr, using the same layout as ~/.kde ), I can't use plasmapkg since it requires X, | 18:18 |
| ryanakca | etc, etc. Feel like taking a look at it? | 18:18 |
| rgreening | ryanakca: sure, got it posted/available somewhere? | 18:20 |
| Riddell | ** jaunty testers needed for new network manager and python-kde4 | 18:24 |
| _Sime | whatyousay riddell? | 18:25 |
| ryanakca | rgreening: http://ryanak.ca/~ryan/plasma-widget-facebook_1.0-1.dsc | 18:25 |
| Riddell | _Sime: trying jaunty packages of kdebindings, I came across an issue with PyQt4/uic/pykdeuic4.py though, did you ever decide where that should be installed? | 18:26 |
| _Sime | Riddell: someone has been looking into that problem and has changed the install location a few times. I hope they actually tested it too. ;-) | 18:27 |
| JontheEchidna | the kopete facebook plugin needeth a new qjson | 18:27 |
| ryanakca | rgreening: I'm trying a setup.py script, I can import the plugin from python. | 18:27 |
| ryanakca | s/plugin/plasmoid/ | 18:27 |
| Riddell | _Sime: well PyQt4 seems a strange place to put a PyKDE module | 18:29 |
| Riddell | and it happened to cause funny packaging issues in jaunty because PyQt4 itself is installed elsewhere so it ends up with two PyQt4s and python imports the wrong one | 18:30 |
| _Sime | Riddell: it acts as an extension plugin. | 18:30 |
| ryanakca | rgreening: I think that all that might need to be done is to patch the metadata.desktop file so that it uses plasma_widget_facebook.main ... | 18:33 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: did you have anyone test that new network manager? | 18:56 |
| JontheEchidna | Riddell: it's the same as what's in karmic currently | 18:59 |
| Riddell | that means nothing | 19:00 |
| Riddell | network manager is stupidly fragile, it needs testing in triplicate at every stage | 19:00 |
| maco | i would test it if i had a panel, however since plasma-desktop refuses to load... *shrug* | 19:06 |
| Riddell | maco: what's your problem? | 19:06 |
| maco | plasma-desktop go boom? | 19:06 |
| maco | http://pastebin.ca/1519463 | 19:07 |
| maco | Riddell: ^ | 19:08 |
| Riddell | maco: that doesn't tell much, do you get a backtrace? | 19:10 |
| Riddell | gdb plasma-desktop args=--nofork | 19:10 |
| maco | uhhh that doesnt work | 19:18 |
| maco | args=--no-fork not found... | 19:19 |
| * maco looks through wiki | 19:19 | |
| Riddell | maco: gdb plasma-desktop | 19:20 |
| Riddell | set args --nofork | 19:20 |
| Riddell | run | 19:20 |
| Riddell | <boom> | 19:20 |
| maco | ah "run --no-fork" | 19:20 |
| Riddell | bt | 19:20 |
| bmunger | is it known that akregator is non functional? | 19:22 |
| bmunger | does not crash, but does not fetch feeds | 19:23 |
| maco | http://pastebin.ca/1519483 | 19:23 |
| maco | bmunger: fetches for e | 19:23 |
| maco | *me | 19:23 |
| maco | in karmic at least | 19:23 |
| bmunger | yes karmic, i have it on a virtual machine and a laptop..both never work | 19:24 |
| bmunger | shows the red x on every feed, even the default ones | 19:24 |
| maco | kde planet and my blog's comment feed both work for me | 19:24 |
| bmunger | interesting | 19:25 |
| Riddell | maco: looks like a crash with network manager, what version do you have installed? apt-cache policy plasma-widget-networkmanagement | 19:25 |
| maco | Installed: none | 19:27 |
| Riddell | maco: this is karmic? | 19:28 |
| bmunger | i killed the akregator config directory and it still does not fetch the default feeds | 19:28 |
| maco | aye | 19:28 |
| Riddell | maco: I'm confused. try installing plasma-widget-networkmanagement ? | 19:29 |
| JontheEchidna | Debian has 4.3.0 packages up, if anybody is in a merging mood | 19:52 |
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| maco | Riddell: that worked! | 20:03 |
| davmor2 | Riddell: Bummer still the hal-cups-utils? | 20:10 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: is https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Netbook/AppsRemoval a good url to track removed apps and the reason for removal? | 20:10 |
| maco | Riddell: nm looks like a cell phone | 20:26 |
| maco | and says its unstable and will crash me | 20:26 |
| JontheEchidna | maco: run knetworkmanager, like it says :P | 20:26 |
| maco | yet installing it resolves my crashes...weird | 20:26 |
| JontheEchidna | the applet is useless at the moment | 20:26 |
| maco | JontheEchidna: ah but if i dont have the plasmoid, plasma-desktop doesnt run | 20:26 |
| JontheEchidna | weird | 20:26 |
| maco | and i use /etc/network/interfaces anyway. the applet's been useless for like 6 months | 20:26 |
| * OdyX points to wicd | 20:27 | |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: do we has kde-l10n in the ppa yet? | 20:30 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: not that I saww | 20:31 |
| apachelogger | actually | 20:31 |
| JontheEchidna | -w | 20:31 |
| apachelogger | we should either upload as lang-packs or create lang-packs that depend on kde-l10n | 20:31 |
| apachelogger | otherwise their aint is no smooth transition | 20:31 |
| apachelogger | of course... if the language selectore supported list enhancements via defintion files or something | 20:32 |
| Quintasan | I give up | 20:48 |
| Quintasan | fglrx is stupid, retarded and I lack adjectives to describe it | 20:48 |
| valgaav | Quintasan: soon you will not have to use it ... open source drivers for the newest ATI cards are really almost here ... | 20:59 |
| Quintasan | valgaav: I have Radeon HD3450 :/ | 20:59 |
| Quintasan | GRRRRRR | 20:59 |
| Quintasan | nice | 21:00 |
| Quintasan | HDMI output in my video card was set as default card in alsa | 21:00 |
| valgaav | well : http://www.botchco.com/agd5f/?p=47 | 21:00 |
| valgaav | HD3450 is r6xx ... and running compiz means that those drivers are really almost ready | 21:01 |
| Quintasan | the driver is radeonhd? | 21:01 |
| valgaav | AFAIK radeon not radeonhd | 21:02 |
| nielsslot | i ran KWin with 3d on that yesterday.. the cube works.. be it very very slow | 21:02 |
| maco | Quintasan: that's offensive to mentally disabled people. comparing them to ati drivers,oh my! | 21:05 |
| Quintasan | ohshi- | 21:05 |
| valgaav | well the driver is still slow because they use back buffer instead of front buffer or something like that ... once fixed there will be huge performance gain | 21:07 |
| nielsslot | valgaav: i know.. i'm following the development as closly as possible | 21:07 |
| Quintasan | http://pastebin.com/f294c151 <-- this means fglrx is not working? | 21:14 |
| Monika|K | Quintasan: right | 21:21 |
| Monika|K | if it were working, it would look somewhat like this http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Grafikkarten/ATI/fglrx#berpruefung | 21:22 |
| dtchen | Riddell: fixed in 1:0.9.16~test4-0ubuntu1, thanks | 21:23 |
| _Sime | 's cat is snoring... | 21:32 |
| * _Sime 's cat is snoring... | 21:32 | |
| Monika|K | my cats are, unfortunately, puking | 21:33 |
| Monika|K | ate grass | 21:33 |
| _Sime | mine puked last night, and this morning | 21:34 |
| _Sime | seems to be cleared up now. | 21:34 |
| Quintasan_ | I think I made it | 21:36 |
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| Quintasan | YAY | 21:37 |
| ghostcube | any news for the translation packages for 4.3.0 | 22:01 |
| ghostcube | :) | 22:01 |
| Varox | hi all! | 22:22 |
| Varox | i just tried to update to kde 4.3 | 22:22 |
| Monika|K | hi | 22:22 |
| Varox | but it's not working | 22:22 |
| Varox | and i get the following error | 22:22 |
| dtchen | Varox: it's a missing Conflicts/Replaces | 22:22 |
| Varox | do you know how to fix it? | 22:22 |
| Varox | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1232503 | 22:22 |
| Varox | dtchen: lol | 22:22 |
| dtchen | Varox: you can either wait for it to be fixed in the PPA, or you can use dpkg --force-overwrite | 22:23 |
| Varox | dtchen: thanks, i think i will wait for the fix in PPA | 22:23 |
| Varox | how long does it usually take? | 22:23 |
| dtchen | no idea | 22:23 |
| Varox | ok | 22:24 |
| Varox | it probably was a stupid question :) | 22:24 |
| Varox | so it's time to go to bed now, late over here | 22:25 |
| Varox | have a good night! | 22:25 |
| Varox | and thanks for your help | 22:25 |
| dtchen | np | 22:25 |
| ghostcube | Varox: a apt-get -f install | 22:26 |
| ghostcube | schould work too | 22:26 |
| ghostcube | then retry an sudo apt-get upgrade | 22:26 |
| Quintasan | hmm I don't like it, KWin effects suck with fglrx but compiz works just fine | 22:29 |
| ghostcube | Quintasan: yeah compiz has better workflow | 22:30 |
| ghostcube | do you use it ? | 22:30 |
| Quintasan | just started | 22:30 |
| Quintasan | But no window decorations | 22:30 |
| ghostcube | standard repo version | 22:30 |
| Quintasan | hmm emerald doesn't work | 22:30 |
| ghostcube | grafic card is what | 22:30 |
| ghostcube | ? | 22:30 |
| Quintasan | Radeon HD 3450 | 22:30 |
| ghostcube | check that the window deco plugin is set | 22:31 |
| Quintasan | emerald --replace worked :P | 22:31 |
| ghostcube | Quintasan: check the plugin | 22:31 |
| ghostcube | in ccsm | 22:31 |
| ghostcube | can we try something please | 22:31 |
| ghostcube | go to systemsettings >> desfault komponents | 22:31 |
| ghostcube | window manager and set it to compiz | 22:31 |
| ghostcube | and relogin to youre user | 22:32 |
| ghostcube | if it wont get startet the bug is confirmed and i can file one | 22:32 |
| ghostcube | you must go there after login if compiz is refusing to start and check kwin again | 22:32 |
| Quintasan | file it | 22:32 |
| ghostcube | so not starting ? | 22:32 |
| Quintasan | compiz starts because ring switcher works | 22:32 |
| ghostcube | yeah agfter login too ? | 22:33 |
| Quintasan | but no decoration == emerald not starting | 22:33 |
| ghostcube | if you set to auto | 22:33 |
| Quintasan | yup | 22:33 |
| ghostcube | hmmm | 22:33 |
| ghostcube | have you checked the decoration plugin | 22:34 |
| ghostcube | in ccsm | 22:34 |
| ghostcube | btw why is ksnapshot not more atartet by the print button | 22:34 |
| ghostcube | oO | 22:34 |
| ghostcube | damn | 22:34 |
| Quintasan | I think I will stick with KWin | 22:37 |
| ghostcube | hmm fort me compiz works fine except the startup bug | 22:37 |
| ghostcube | oO | 22:37 |
| ghostcube | iusnt print button supposed to start knsapshot normally | 22:38 |
| ghostcube | oO | 22:38 |
| Quintasan | well don't mind me, I just don't like compiz | 22:38 |
| ghostcube | Quintasan: can u may check i print opens ksnapshot for you | 22:40 |
| Quintasan | nope | 22:41 |
| Quintasan | set it manually in systemsettings | 22:41 |
| Quintasan | I'm thankful enough for working fglrx | 22:41 |
| bdgraue | Quintasan: where do i set print for screenshot? | 22:43 |
| ghostcube | good question | 22:43 |
| ghostcube | in global shortcuts it doesnt recognize it | 22:43 |
| bdgraue | Launches KSnapShot when PrintScrn is pressed. | 22:44 |
| bdgraue | hmm, dunno the english for that | 22:44 |
| ghostcube | thx | 22:46 |
| ghostcube | ha5rd to find | 22:47 |
| bdgraue | found it :D | 22:48 |
| Monika|K | I ordered 100 Kubuntu CDs for Froscon. Approved were 10. The package says 10 on the outside. It contains 1. <sigh> | 23:00 |
| ghostcube | cool the super to win key mapping is nice | 23:03 |
| ghostcube | :) | 23:03 |
| Monika|K | what is the super key? | 23:03 |
| ghostcube | compiz uses it its normally the windows key | 23:03 |
| Monika|K | but what does it do? | 23:04 |
| ghostcube | nothing its just named super key | 23:04 |
| ghostcube | oO | 23:04 |
| ghostcube | i didnt have a windows key here | 23:04 |
| ghostcube | so i need to map it to another buttpon as super key | 23:04 |
| ghostcube | hmmm if i get a notification it shows the numbers of notificationds but not the reason and the text | 23:06 |
| ghostcube | oO | 23:06 |
| ghostcube | anyway not so important | 23:07 |
| ghostcube | :) | 23:07 |
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