[00:00] <maribel> Hello, everyone. I just (made the mistake of) upgrading to KDE 4.3 and now my system is foobared...
[00:01] <maribel> Upun login, I get a crash window saying that KDE workspace (or something like that) crashed. I click OK and then all I see is a black screen
[00:01] <maribel> I cannot even access the intervia via the terminal
[00:01] <maribel> it's completely broken
[00:01] <maribel> What can I do?
[00:02] <wers> i'm on ubuntu withtout the kde desktop installed. i already added the backports and staging PPAs. what packages do I install to get kde 4.3?
[00:02] <shadeslayer> wers: kubuntu-desktop
[00:03] <wers> shadeslayer, thanks. if I install kde-core instead, will that give me a vanilla kde 4.3?
[00:03] <pein> bonne nuit à tous et merci encore Riddell :-)
[00:03] <maribel> According to "sudo apt-get upgrade", the following packages have been kept back: kde-printer-applet, kdebase-plasma, kdebase-workspace-bin, kdebase-workspace-data, kdeedu, kdegames, kdm, koffice-kde4, konqueror, kopete and kstars. Maybe it means somehting
[00:03] <shadeslayer> wers: the kubuntu-desktop package brings everything in
[00:05] <wers> shadeslayer, yep. but if I just want kde 4.3 without the kubuntu touch, will kde-core give me the vanilla kde 4.3?
[00:05] <shadeslayer> wers: never tried that before..so no idea if it will work...
[00:07] <Riddell> wers: well kde-full is the kde selection of packages.  it's no more minimalist than kubuntu-desktop though
[00:07] <Riddell> maribel: do a dist-upgrade
[00:09] <maribel> Riddell: THank you! Unfortunately even the networking is broken :( I'l fighting with networkmanager and other commands to get it to work and run that command
[00:10] <wers> Riddell, oh. so it's kde-full instead of kde-core now? okay. I'll try kde-full first before kubuntu-desktop to see the diff between vanilla and kubuntu :)
[00:11] <Riddell> wers: kde-core is a minimal selection of packages, kde-full is everything in the KDE selection.  kubuntu-desktop is everything in the kubuntu selection
[00:11] <shadeslayer> Riddell: we need staging ppas too? can you provide the link?
[00:12] <bobbob1016> So I got my kde loading again by adding that other repo, but now all my settings are gone, no panels, I added one, but it is blank, and I cant get it to the bottom where I had it before.
[00:12] <shadeslayer> nm
[00:12] <Riddell> shadeslayer: see kubuntu.org
[00:13] <shadeslayer> yeah...saw that :)
[00:13] <shadeslayer> yayy....upgrade underway :)
[00:14] <shadeslayer> now to wait for 4hrs
[00:23] <||ugh> packages "kde kdeedu kstars" fail to happily install as libindi0_0.6-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb fails due to "overwrite `/usr/bin/indiserver', which is also in package indi"...
[00:25] <tommy_> does anyone know the name i need to type to apt-get java EE
[00:25] <tommy_> ?
[00:26] <cuznt> !java ee
[00:26] <||ugh> tommy_, try "apt-cache search java"
[00:26] <snerge> hello, I was upgrading my 9.04 with kde 4.2 to kde 4.3 rc3  from the backports and it dit not complete, now I am having dependency nightmare, is there anyway I can "start over" ? thanks
[00:27] <tommy_> tried that couldnt find it
[00:27] <phitoo_> I just added the staging line and did aptitude safe-upgrade. I still get repeating lines of Resolving dependencies. dist-upgrade is oK though.
[00:27] <phitoo_> But I am surprised that I will be using 153MB more than with 4.2.2.
[00:27] <phitoo_> That's seems awfully huge!
[00:28] <tommy_> if not how would i go about installing it from the bin file on a command line? im new to linux.
[00:28] <phh> phitoo_: you installed a debug version no ?
[00:28] <||ugh> snerge, go to http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.3 as the instructions have changed.
[00:29] <snerge> ugh, tnx will do because right now I'm using ircii and links2 kinda awfull to debug hehe
[00:29] <||ugh> tommy_, what exact distro of Linux are you running?
[00:30] <tommy_> im running 9.04 server edition on the machine i need to install it on
[00:30] <phitoo_> phh: not that i know of..
[00:30] <tommy_> so no GUI
[00:31] <||ugh> tommy_, I have that, just a sec.
[00:31] <tommy_> thanks :)
[00:31] <snerge> ugh, I was missing the staging line, looking better already, tnx
[00:32] <||ugh> tommy_, my _guess_ is that you need sun-java6-jre and related packages.  Note the word... GUESS.
[00:32] <tommy_> uugh
[00:32] <tommy_> what about installing it from the bin file provided by sun?
[00:33] <||ugh> Urgh, when kde 4.3.0 starts plasma crashes!  Urgh...
[00:33] <||ugh> tommy_, you can likely install all of sun-java6-* and get something that works for your task.  Try it, you can always un-install.
[00:34] <tommy_> i guess
[00:34] <Rouser> Is wine compatible with the latest version of Kubuntu?
[00:34] <tommy_> thanks for your help :)
[00:34] <Rouser> it's installed, and it seems like it sort of works, but i'm getting an error when i try to browse the virtual C:
[00:34] <Rouser> However, I can still edit the virtual registry, etc
[00:34] <Rouser> just can't run anything
[00:35] <snerge> Rouser, maybe you could try deleting wine settings in your home directory and start over ?
[00:35] <Rouser> how should i go about that? winecfg and set to default?
[00:35] <Rouser> i tried that for the drives, dunno if that's what you're talking about though
[00:36] <snerge> Rouser, that is what I would try
[00:36] <corey_> sorry to interrupt... how do i switch from kde to gnome
[00:36] <Rouser> Corey_, should be an option at the login screen
[00:36] <myself> how do i make all the windiws in KDE bouncy like in GNOME
[00:36] <snerge> corey_ at your login screen, you should have "Session" somewhere
[00:36] <myself> corey_ are u from LF
[00:36] <corey_> whats lf
[00:36] <myself> a thing :)
[00:37] <corey_> lol
[00:37] <corey_> how do u color your stuff
[00:37] <myself> do u know how to make the windows bouncy in KDE like u can in gnome corey
[00:37] <snerge> Rouser I do not remember the exact directory but I would delete every .wine* in my home directory
[00:37] <corey_> um not really... i dont know how to make windows bouncy at all lol
[00:37] <corey_> i think its in desktop effects
[00:37] <myself> its a thing
[00:37] <corey_> wait
[00:38] <corey_> maby
[00:38] <myself> yea
[00:38] <myself> i dled it for gnome
[00:38] <myself> but how do i do it in KDE
[00:38] <corey_> go to you system settings
[00:38] <corey_> u there
[00:38] <myself> yea
[00:38] <corey_> k go to desktop
[00:38] <myself> ooooooooo
[00:38] <corey_> try in there
[00:39] <myself> i dont think i t got it
[00:39] <myself> i gotta dl something
[00:39] <corey_> o
[00:39] <corey_> hmm
[00:39] <myself> ioh wait
[00:39] <myself> it got it
[00:39] <myself> i found it :D
[00:39] <corey_> kool glad i could help
[00:40] <myself> you're my friend
[00:41] <Rouser> I think that did it
[00:41] <Rouser> thanks so much
[00:42] <Rouser> I'm switching from ubuntu, so I'm still new to some of the changes, didn't know if a KDE interface or this version might screw with it, but recreating the folders manually worked like a charm
[00:43] <corey_> bye thanks
[00:46] <bobbob1016> How can I get kde to stop drawing the background and let compiz do it?  I had it working in 4.2.4 by changing a line in my plasma-appletsrc file to 0,0,0,0 but that does not seem to work anymore...
[00:50] <maribel> Whoa, KDE 4.3 looks really nice. Thank you very for packaging it for Jaunty!!
[00:50] <Riddell> you're welcome maribel
[00:51] <lninjox> sorry to be a bother but where can i get a list of channels i will bookmark it thanx
[00:52] <Riddell> lninjox: I don't think freenode let you get a list of all the channels
[00:53] <lninjox> oh maybe start with freenode then?
[00:54] <||ugh> Is anyone else having plasma crash on startup?
[00:54] <phitoo_> Strange. If I use apt-get I get 154MB extra. If use aptitude I get 166MB less used. Apparently with aptitude all the boost libraries are being deleted.
[00:54] <luis__> can somebody helpme pls i just can open my memory phone
[00:56] <sep1318> i just upgraded to 4.3 and lost my entire desktop. background, panel, ability to right-click...
[00:56] <odla_> sep1318: did you have backports and staging PPAs in your sources.lst?
[00:56] <sep1318> yeah, i think so.
[00:57] <luis__> i mean i want to get some data from the memory chhip from my cel so i got this device where i place the memory chip and then hook it onto the pc but it appear this: mount: mount point /media/disk does not exist
[00:57] <luis__> how do i fix this help pls
[00:58] <sep1318> luis__: you're trying to manually mount it? you need to create the mount point first. just make the directory.
[00:58] <luis__> how
[00:58] <luis__> i dont know
[00:58] <luis__> i never need that before
[00:58] <luis__> but ok
[00:58] <luis__> just tell me how
[00:59] <odla_> does the kubuntu installer allow resizing of ntfs?
[00:59] <luis__> it use to be fine
[00:59] <luis__> can u guide me pls to do so sep1318?
[00:59] <LadyNikon> luis__: please use complete sentences
[01:00] <luis__> iam talking 2 sep
[01:00] <luis__> txs
[01:00] <luis__> lady
[01:00] <LadyNikon> !mount
[01:00] <luis__> dont like it dont read it lady
[01:00] <LadyNikon> luis__: you dont have to be rude.
[01:00] <LadyNikon> its considered spamming and you can get kicked from the channel.
[01:00] <luis__> thats is what ur doing with me lady
[01:00] <luis__> being rude
[01:00] <luis__> and i dont like it
[01:01] <luis__> son do not complain
[01:01] <Riddell> luis__: ok stop this
[01:01] <luis__> and stop being rude lady
[01:02] <shadowhywind> hay all, I know kde 4.3 is broken at the moment, just wondering if anyone had any updates yet, I know there are two lines to add, but that still didn't work. Just wondering if there is a second fix yet?
[01:02] <LadyNikon> !mount > luis__
[01:02] <LadyNikon> i forgot to add your name the last time.
[01:04] <odla_> is there a way to resize ntfs from a kubuntu cd?
[01:08] <sep1318> shadowhywind: what's this bug?
[01:11] <aliendoggie> hi! i have upgraded kde 4.3 from "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu jaunty main" and now I have a blank white desktop. kwin is working thou. any ideas how to fix/ where to ask questions?
[01:11] <sep1318> aliendoggie: that's my problem too!
[01:12] <aliendoggie> ok. welcome to the club then
[01:12] <sep1318> hehe w00t
[01:12] <bobbob1016> aliendoggie, sep1318: Solved... http://www.kubuntu.org/  add *both* repos
[01:13] <bobbob1016> then finish the upgrade, might have to login via terminal
[01:13] <sep1318> thanx bobbob1016
[01:13] <aliendoggie> bobbob1016, i am on 8.10
[01:13] <bobbob1016> shadowhywind: It worked for me
[01:14] <aliendoggie> bobbob1016, are you on 8.10 as the site says it is only for 9.04
[01:14] <bobbob1016> aliendoggie: No
[01:14] <sep1318> ah, I don't have the staging PPA
[01:14] <bobbob1016> I use jaunty
[01:14] <aliendoggie> me too
[01:15] <aliendoggie> so you need staging on 8.10 too?
[01:15] <bobbob1016> aliendoggie: No...  Jaunty = 9.04, you said you run 8.10 which is Intrepid
[01:15] <aliendoggie> bobbob1016, ok. me bad :)
[01:16] <aliendoggie> thanks for the help
[01:16] <bobbob1016> aliendoggie: Add it, it should work since the reason you need both repos is that some files are only 1 of the repos
[01:17] <aliendoggie> bobbob1016, oh i see.. they have lots of qt4 goodies updated...
[01:20] <aliendoggie> I also have to report another problem. If I leave kde working for long hours (overnight) it seriously degrade in performance. I have to respart plasma-desktop. Is it a "known feature"?
[01:21] <aliendoggie> in top i have plasma-desktop 45% and sometimes python eating the rest CPU ( i guess the python from the plasma widget?)
[01:24] <gwhipple> my dist-upgrade today wants to remove packages that look necessary (??)
[01:27] <Riddell> aliendoggie: I had memory leaks with plasma in the past but 4.3 doesn't have any such problems for me
[01:28] <Riddell> gwhipple: you have to tell us what (pastebin best)
[01:28] <aliendoggie> Riddell, thanks! i really hope 4.3 got rid of those problems
[01:30] <aliendoggie> bobbob1016, thanks for your help.
[01:31] <gwhipple> Riddell: i think it's because i have the 4.3 repos in my sources list i just checked website and will add correct lines to sources.list ... see if that fixes it
[01:33] <bobbob1016> How can I get kde 4.3 not to draw a background so compiz can?
[01:35] <gorgonzola> bobbob016 pardon my ignorance but why would you want ot do that?
[01:35] <gorgonzola> bobbob1016 pardon my ignorance but why would you want ot do that?
[01:36] <bobbob1016> gorgonzola: So I can get different wallpapers on each desktop
[01:41] <bobbob1016> gorgonzola: I found the option via zooming out, but I want the same plasmids, just different backgrounds, prefer not to set each up 5 times
[01:41] <gorgonzola> aaaah. what you need is to set up different "activities", bobbob1016
[01:42] <gorgonzola> bobbob1016. unfortunately, i only know that in kde, you can configure the desktop independently for different activities, with background, plasma dashboard, and widgets and panels by setting activities, but i don't know the details.
[01:44] <gorgonzola> bobbob1016: oh, you already know that. nevermind me then. good luck!
[01:45] <gorgonzola> bobbob1016: did you try the option "use separate dashboard" off?
[01:48] <bobbob1016> gorgonzola: I think activities seem to be more like spaces in OSX if you know what those are.  I cant seem to get it to be different wallpapers, do I need kwin effects too?
[01:50] <bobbob1016> yeah, activities are not the same, I want to rotate my compiz cube and see different wallpapers on each face, not switch activities
[01:53] <bobbob1016> I used to change a setting in plasma-appletsrc to 0,0,0,0 and it would stop drawing the desktop, but it doesnt do that anymore
[01:54] <gorgonzola> bobbob1016: mmm, you are right. what you want is a little less overkill than activivties. but i don't know how to do it, or if its ewven possible. sorry :(
[01:56] <bobbob1016> Yeah, thanks for trying and not doing the cliche *use kwin instead* line
[01:59] <myself> is there a way to minimize pidgin to tray in kubuntu
[02:07] <Guest93941> hi im having  a problem with my ubuntu system. I was forced to upgrade via synaptic package manager and after i updated my x-server crashed with conflicted nvidia drivers (i installed drivers from nvidia's site). Can someone show me how to restore my x-server and delete the nvidia drivers that is installed?
[02:07] <noren> hello all, need some advise !!
[02:07] <noren> i want to store  Large chunk of movies on a single partition which partition format is suitable for that
[02:07] <Guest93941> doesnt matter which partition
[02:07] <Guest93941> i have a ntfs partition
[02:07] <Guest93941> for my data storage
[02:08] <Guest93941> because its detectable by linux and windows
[02:08] <Guest93941> =)
[02:08] <noren> is xfs better than ntfs for the same
[02:08] <Guest93941> im not aware of xfs. i mean its data storage right..? what does it matter what partition u use. in the windows environment ntfs is considered good so why not
[02:09] <Guest93941> its not like ur going to have a much significant portion of ur partition available for data storage
[02:09] <BluesKaj> noren , doesn't matter , it's storage
[02:09] <Guest93941> as long as things are compatible ur good to go =)
[02:09] <Guest93941> so i picked ntfs
[02:09] <Guest93941> blueskaj
[02:09] <Guest93941> i have a problem t.T
[02:10] <libervisco> hm I upgraded to 4.3 final and kdm says invalid session type then boots me to fluxbox O_O
[02:10] <noren> BluesKaj: i read somewhere to use the other partition if u are going to read for that partition repeatdly like a file server or so ??
[02:11] <Guest93941> then use the other partition
[02:11] <Guest93941> with partitions u cant go wrong
[02:11] <Guest93941> jus stay away from fat32
[02:11] <Guest93941> lol
[02:12] <BluesKaj> noren , well some say there's advantages to seperate partitions for data but I've never seen any advantages.
[02:12] <Guest93941> the advantage is that in case ur operating system screws up
[02:13] <Guest93941> u will not risk losing the data if its on seperate partition
[02:13] <Guest93941> which is in my case
[02:13] <Guest93941> and i need help with my ubuntu plz someone help
[02:13] <Guest93941> T.T
[02:14] <noren> whats ur prob Guest93941
[02:14] <BluesKaj> Guest93941, have you tried uninstalling the proprietary nvidia driver that you downloaded from their site. You should go with the default nvidia driver recommended by kubuntufor your card
[02:14] <Guest93941> yes
[02:14] <Guest93941> i use ubuntu
[02:14] <Guest93941> i want to use the default driver now
[02:14] <BluesKaj> same
[02:14] <Guest93941> but how do i get rid of the driver i downlaoded
[02:14] <Guest93941> and installed
[02:15] <Guest93941> my x-server literally crashed
[02:15] <Guest93941> and im on some back up x-server
[02:15] <Guest93941> because compiz-fusion is not working no more
[02:15] <Guest93941> i want to restore everything delete the nvidia drievrs and install the default ubuntu nvidia drivers
[02:16] <cF`Zuz|WATAF> see i tested all the nice looks and all, i realized it just slows my pc when I have all the nice fancy things going, Kubuntu seems amazing, but my system is problematic
[02:16] <Guest93941> yea it is problematic
[02:16] <cF`Zuz|WATAF> of course thats the beauty of costumization
[02:16] <Guest93941> but it works for my needs
[02:16] <Guest93941> i dont do anything major on this pc
[02:16] <Guest93941> lol
[02:16] <cF`Zuz|WATAF> lol did you see my thread?
[02:16] <Guest93941> but how do i delete the original drivers
[02:16] <cF`Zuz|WATAF> http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3105539.0
[02:16] <Guest93941> no i did not see
[02:16] <FloodBotK1> Guest93941: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:17] <noren> Guest93941 just reboot and get into the recovery mode from there chose the fix the display
[02:17] <Guest93941> what will that do
[02:17] <cF`Zuz|WATAF> check my thread
[02:17] <Guest93941> i have no experience in linux
[02:17] <cF`Zuz|WATAF> my pc doesnt start
[02:17] <Guest93941> LOL
[02:17] <Guest93941> srsly?
[02:18] <cF`Zuz|WATAF> ok when you reboot your machine, when its booting it tells you to press (i believe is esc) for different startup
[02:18] <Guest93941> oh damn
[02:18] <noren> Guest93941 : restore ur default display config
[02:18] <cF`Zuz|WATAF> you press whatever it tells you
[02:18] <Guest93941> i have a triple boot setup here
[02:18] <BluesKaj> find the folder that the contains the downloaded driver , cd to it in the terminal , then sudo dpkg -r nameofdriver .. I assume you installed it with Gdebi installer option
[02:18] <Guest93941> so i believe grub comes up first
[02:18] <Guest93941> blueskaj thats the problem...i deleted the package that contains the downloaded driver -_-
[02:18] <Guest93941> and i dont remember what driver i isntalled
[02:18] <Guest93941> *-)
[02:18] <cF`Zuz|WATAF> then its going to give you a menu with different builds and options, if you go all the way down, it has a fix x option
[02:19] <Guest93941> the file i used to install the driver...i deleted it..
[02:20] <BluesKaj> what graphics card , Guest93941 ?
[02:20] <Guest93941> evga gtx 280
[02:20] <Guest93941> nvidia card
[02:20] <Guest93941> i went on file browser and searched nvidia
[02:20] <Guest93941> i get a lot of files with this id
[02:20] <Guest93941> 185.18.14
[02:20] <FloodBotK1> Guest93941: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:20] <Guest93941> i think thats the driver
[02:21] <cF`Zuz|WATAF> can you get in konsole?
[02:21] <Guest93941> u mean terminal?
[02:21] <cF`Zuz|WATAF> yeah
[02:21] <Guest93941> yes im using ubuntu right now its on a back up x-server thing
[02:21] <cF`Zuz|WATAF> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:21] <Guest93941> ok
[02:21] <Guest93941> a setup came up
[02:22] <Guest93941> use kernel framebuffer device interface yes or no?
[02:22] <rmrfslash> I'm receiving an error trying to upgrade to KDE 4.3 :(
[02:24] <rmrfslash> I made it to KDE 4.3 RC3... but I just tried doing the final upgrade and I get this error: http://pastebin.com/m2718da60
[02:27] <cjae> how do I properly save a GPG key via cli (for kde 4.3)?
[02:31] <cjae> !gpg
[02:32] <BluesKaj> Guest93941, copy and paste this command to a terminal : sudo dpkg -r NVIDIA-Linux-x86-185.18.31
[02:38] <ramon> hi all...
[02:39] <ramon> I've bought a HP notebook and i'm in trouble with some configuration like te sound and the "FN" kes
[02:39] <ramon> could anybody help me?
[02:41] <ramon> anyone?
[02:41] <LadyNikon> ramon: patience..
[02:41] <LadyNikon> if you dont find any answeres here try the forums
[02:42] <LadyNikon> or .. you could do that.
[02:47] <cjae> oops, s/gpg/pgp
[02:52] <cjae> !curl
[02:52] <cjae> !info curl
[02:53] <coppro> Hello, is there anywhere to download a kubuntu jaunty DVD? I can only find ubuntu ones
[02:56] <bobbob1016> Can anyone suggest a strigi frontend apart from Alt+F2?
[03:05] <shadowhywind> hay all, I tried to install kde 4.3, my issue was that kubuntu-desktop was not installed, So I installed the package, managed to log in, but now plasma/plasma-desktop wont start, any ideas?
[03:23] <noquinho> hi friends! please help! how can i do to save my visual effects ? Everytime when i turn on my pc, the compiz is not working again
[03:25] <amason_> noquinho: your using compiz or kwin ?
[03:25] <noquinho> compiz
[03:26] <aran> 大家好
[03:26] <amason_> hmm not sure sorry. I usually just use kwin with desktop effects enabled
[03:27] <aran> 都在忙啥呢？
[03:27] <amason_> aran: _en sorry
[03:27] <noquinho> everytime when i turn on my pc, i need go to sistem, preferences, aparence, and visual effects
[03:28] <amason_> noquinho: well if your using compiz that won't help
[03:28] <noquinho> and then click on normal, or extra effects
[03:28] <amason_> that will turn kwin on
[03:28] <amason_> and effects kwin settings
[03:28] <amason_> but if your using compiz
[03:28] <amason_> that won't work
[03:28] <noquinho> i am not sure
[03:41] <chris> On kde-4.3, the knetworkmanager icon always shows disconnected, even though its not
[03:41] <chris> anyone seen this also?
[03:45] <dustin> wut
[03:46] <darthanubis> chris: only on my laptop's wifi connection. but on this desktop all is well
[03:47] <chris> darthnubi: yeh - this is on my laptop's wifi
[03:47] <cjae> ok is there packages being held back  for kde 4.3 right now?
[03:47] <cjae> cause I am now on windows since my kubuntu install appears to be broken
[03:49] <cjae> I used the ppa. repo and installed the pgp key and did sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude safe-upgrade
[03:49] <cjae> and now the kde crash handler appears upon login
[03:50] <cjae> and using sudo aptitude safe-upgrade from tty1 shows there are some packages being held back
[03:51] <cjae> are they broken or have I simply used a bad method to install them?
[03:52] <cjae> or are they still building?
[03:53] <cjae> anyone
[04:08] <Novice> whats the best way to change usplash on jaunty?
[04:09] <Novice> Tried using SUM but all the files on kdelook are not .so files
[04:24] <dhong> hello, my plasma costs 100% cpu, anyone knowns why
[04:29] <bhuey> what's the best way of installing the new kde 4.3 packages in regular ubuntu ? just wait ?
[04:31] <sebr> Anyone having trouble installing 4.3 packages?
[04:31] <sebr>   kdepimlibs5: Conflicts: libkholidays4 (< 4:4.2.90) but 4:4.2.4-0ubuntu1~jaunty1~ppa2 is to be installed
[04:31] <sebr>   kdepimlibs5-dev: Depends: kdepimlibs5 (= 4:4.2.4-0ubuntu1~jaunty1~ppa2) but 4:4.3.0-0ubuntu1~jaunty1~ppa1 is to be installed
[04:32] <aliendoggie> hi. in 4.3 kubuntu I select folder view in "desktop activity" and plasma crashes. the correspondent widget does not work too. any ideas?
[04:40] <Crell> Hi folks.  I'm having an issue with KMail (KDE 4.2 backport packages on a 8.10 system).  Recently it's been periodically jumping the tracks and eating up my entire CPU occasionally.  Now, it's doing it every time I try to start it, even after a fresh reboot.
[04:40] <Crell> It jumps to 80% CPU or more, the system slows to a crawl, and the program never actually opens.
[04:41] <Crell> (80% as reported by top.)
[04:41] <Crell> Any suggestions on what to do to make it behave?
[04:43] <Crell> Hm, correction, it's 80% of memory.
[04:49] <NutCobbler> Crell. I am just curious. How much memory do you have in your computer, and how much mail do you have in your client?
[04:49] <Crell> 2 GB RAM, Thinkpad T61 laptop.
[04:50] <Crell> And the main account is an IMAP account, which does have 2+ gigs in it across many many folders.
[04:50] <Crell> But it's been like that for a long time without this issue, and it's on a 100BaseT ethernet to the mail server.
[04:55] <Crell> If I run Kmail from the command line, it does the same thing and eventually times out.  The last message is: *** glibc detected *** kmail: realloc(): invalid next size: 0x083235b8 ***
[04:55] <Crell> Which is only mostly greek to me. :-)
[04:56] <kalp> i am not getting run command on ALT+F2. what is the solution?
[04:59] <Crell> Hm.  Then when I run it a second time, I get this:
[04:59] <Crell> Communication problem with  "kmail" , it probably crashed.
[04:59] <Crell> Error message was:  "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply" : " "Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blockedthe reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken."
[04:59] <FloodBotK1> Crell: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:59] <kalp> i am not getting run command on ALT+F2. what is the solution?
[05:00] <NutCobbler> Crell. What does the bug tracking/wanted feature tracker say about Kmail? It could just be that the maintainer needs to accomodate larger datasets. The maintainer may need to pick up Knuth's book on sorting and searching to read the chapters on offline information handling.
[05:00] <Crell> NutCobbler: But my dataset has not changed in size by a noticeable amount recently.
[05:00] <kalp> Dolphin opens in fullscreen mode by default. how do i change it?
[05:01] <Crell> It started just fine 4 hours ago.
[05:02] <kalp> i am not getting run command on ALT+F2. what is the solution?
[05:03] <kalp> Dolphin opens in fullscreen mode by default. how do i change it?
[05:03] <NutCobbler> Crell: I'd communicate with the primary maintainer of the program to find what bug or limitation you are hitting. Check to see if they are aware of the problem.
[05:03] <NutCobbler> I think I heard that IMAP is a new feature to Kmail....
[05:03] <Crell> I am not yet convinced it's a kmail bug specifically.
[05:03] <Crell> ...
[05:04] <Crell> IMAP has been supported by KMail since there's been a KMail.
[05:04] <kalp> Dolphin opens in fullscreen mode by default. how do i change it?
[05:04] <Crell> I've been using it for 6 years.
[05:04] <kalp> i am not getting run command on ALT+F2. what is the solution?
[05:05] <wuzei> kalp: there are a billion reasons this can happen
[05:06] <wuzei> have you checked if your shortcuts are setup properly?
[05:07] <kalp> wuzei: yes
[05:15] <Crell> Ah, it finally gave me a proper crash message.
[05:21] <kalp> wuzei: i had to change it to sum other, now it works
[05:22] <kalp> Dolphin opens in fullscreen mode by default. how do i change it?
[05:24] <wuzei> kalp: sounds like your f2 key is borked, either due to hardware, or software (keyboard layout?)
[05:25] <kalp> wuzei: how do i find out the layout?
[05:26] <kalp> wuzei: originally its std american, dont kno if sumthin changed it
[05:32] <Sickling> Out of curiosity, does anyone here know if linux can support a logitech usb mouse?
[05:33] <Crell> I don't see why it wouldn't.  A USB mouse is a USB mouse is a USB mouse.
[05:34] <dwidmann> Sickling: supports mine just fine
[05:35]  * Crell has been usin ryears.
[05:35] <Sickling> Ok, thanks
[05:35] <Crell> bah,   Using logitech mice for years.
[05:35] <Sickling> I must have done something wrong when trying to install it
[05:51] <ShockValue> anyone know if flash works in Arora yet?
[06:01] <frapell> wow... the new KDM login :D :D
[06:01] <frapell> is a delight
[06:02] <frapell> great work :D
[06:02] <horison> a
[06:04] <shadeslayer> a clean and non problematic upgrade for me :)
[06:05] <frapell> yup
[06:07] <shadeslayer> some of the updates are still coming through tho...like qt ones
[06:08] <horison> um, anyone can tell me where to register into this irc?
[06:08] <shadeslayer> !register
[06:09] <dwidmann> ShockValue: supposedly it should work with it if you compiled with Qt 4.5.x
[06:09] <horison> k
[06:09] <horison> tq obutto
[06:09] <horison> em, ubottu
[06:33] <wers> what config folders do i delete to have fresh kde 4.3 configs? when I started for the first time, plasma is messed up
[06:33] <wers> i already tried deleting .kde
[06:33] <shadeslayer> wers: ~/.kde
[06:33] <wers> already did that
[06:33] <wers> any other folders?
[06:34] <shadeslayer> wers: dont think so....
[06:34] <shadeslayer> wers: try adding a new user and reproducing the problem
[06:35] <wers> okayy
[06:43] <ShockValue> bah.. arora plays flash stuff fine, but still no sound.. just like the rest of my damn browsers
[06:43] <Daskreech> wers: Any progress?
[06:43] <wers> how do I remove all kubuntu (4.3) packages? i want to install only kde-full to have a vanilla kde instead
[06:43] <ShockValue> ive tried firefox, konq and arora now
[06:43] <wers> Daskreech, i think, that's really the default configuration
[06:43] <shadeslayer> wers: how about rekonq?
[06:43] <shadeslayer> oops
[06:43] <wers> and it doesnt work well for my small screen (12")
[06:43] <shadeslayer> ShockValue: tried rekonq?
[06:44] <shadeslayer> !puregnome
[06:44] <ShockValue> shadeslayer: no, is there any reason it would play flash better than anything else?
[06:44] <Daskreech> !purekde
[06:44] <Daskreech> try that site ^^^ pyschocats
[06:44] <shadeslayer> ShockValue: well i get sound in rekonq,and all other browsers
[06:45] <wers> shadeslayer, great! i can do that on kde right? i dont have to switch to gnome while doing that? hehe
[06:45] <shadeslayer> wers: uh...yes you have to...
[06:45] <wers> okay brb
[06:48] <wers> !puregnome
[06:50] <Daskreech> wers: You can drop t a VT
[06:50] <wers> Daskreech, huh? hehe
[06:50] <wers> sorry i didnt get that
[06:50] <shadeslayer> Daskreech: do you compile software?
[06:51] <wers> i'm currently doing sudo apt-get remove kdelibs4c2 kdelibs5-data
[06:51] <shadeslayer> !tty | wers
[06:51] <Daskreech> shadeslayer: Yes
[06:51] <shadeslayer> Daskreech: can you tell me whats wrong in : http://pastebin.ca/1518810
[06:51] <Daskreech> wers: That was for KDe3
[06:51] <wers> ah yes shadeslayer . but i'm doing some work as wel. hehe
[06:51] <wers> hmm
[06:51] <wers> Daskreech, which one is?
[06:52] <wers> then i'm doing sudo apt-get install kde-full now
[06:52] <shadeslayer> Daskreech: need it for the svn version of rekonq
[06:52] <Daskreech> wers: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome
[06:52] <wers> haha. i dont see aysiu in the forums anymore
[06:53] <Daskreech> shadeslayer: I'm guessing you did an apt-get build-depends webkitkde already ?
[06:53] <shadeslayer> Daskreech: i need it for the SVN version of rekonq
[06:53] <ibrar> Is there any way to unplug USB Modem
[06:54] <shadeslayer> Daskreech: rekonq keeps crashing because i havent updated the webkitkde package to the latest svn one
[06:54] <Daskreech> ibrar: Should be in the Device Plasmoid
[06:54] <Daskreech> shadeslayer: Right and I'm asking if you installed the webkitkde source dependencies?
[06:55] <ibrar> Daskreech: I need some kind of command to unplug and replug again
[06:56] <shadeslayer> Daskreech: E: Invalid operation build-depends
[06:57] <Daskreech> shadeslayer: try build-dep
[06:58] <shadeslayer> Daskreech: hold on....i need to add the source URL's
[06:58] <ibrar> I have a kernel Module and whenever I install it give error
[06:58] <ibrar> insmod: error inserting '/home/ibrar/Desktop/zte/usr/local/bin/ztemtEVDO/ztemt.ko': -1 Invalid module format
[06:59] <ibrar> any help?
[06:59] <Daskreech> update your module
[07:00] <ibrar> I cannot, I have downlod from zte site
[07:02] <ibrar> is there any way to check on whcich version this kernel module will work
[07:04] <ofv> after upgrading jaunty to kde 4.3 there is no desktop.
[07:04] <Anarch> My microphone stopped working when I upgraded to Hardy, and has never worked since.  Googling and Cuilling haven't found The Clue yet.  Any recommended HOWTOs or documents for somebody who doesn't know what 'PCM' stands for but likes the command line?
[07:04] <shadeslayer> ofv: see topic
[07:05] <ofv> on startup a message box complaining about akonadi and libqt4-sqt (i think) appeared for a moment and then went away.
[07:05] <Daskreech> ibrar: I woud guess ask the makers?
[07:07] <ofv> shadeslayer: i have both backports and stagin and did an apt-get upgrade
[07:07] <ofv> what more is required?
[07:08] <shadeslayer> ofv: apt-get dist-upgrade or just upgrade?
[07:08] <ofv> shadeslayer: just upgrade
[07:08] <shadeslayer> ofv: then run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade in a tty
[07:09] <ofv> shadeslayer: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[07:09] <ofv>  
[07:09] <shadeslayer> ofv: this is an updated sources.list?
[07:09] <ofv> i think so. did a apt-get update several times on the last hour.
[07:10] <shadeslayer> ofv: hmm...you could try deledting ~/.kde ..... but thatll restore all the settings
[07:11] <ofv> i'll see. loggin off now. thanks shadeslayer.
[07:12] <shadeslayer> Daskreech: somebody at #kde told me to get kdelibs from the trunk :)
[07:19] <ofv> shadeslayer: renaming .kde to something else and rebooting did the trick. thanks!
[07:20] <shadeslayer> ofv: no probs :)
[07:21] <nacho_> hi
[07:21] <nacho_> i have a problem here, and i was looking for it but i can't find help
[07:21] <nacho_> i need some guide
[07:22] <nacho_> my pc restarts when i am watching fullscreen flash video on the web
[07:22] <shadeslayer> nacho_: whats the problem>
[07:22] <nacho_> it just shutdown
[07:22] <shadeslayer> nacho_: what browser?
[07:22] <nacho_> firefox
[07:23] <shadeslayer> nacho_: is this problem present in another browser such as arora,rekonq,or konqueror?
[07:23] <nacho_> i didnt try that
[07:35] <tbryant> How do I upgrade to KDE 4.3 in Kubuntu 9.04?
[07:35] <Elirips> tbryant: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.3
[07:36] <Elirips> what stands PPA for?
[07:37] <tbryant> Elirips: thanks, I thought it needed the default "backports".
[07:38] <Elirips> tbryant: yw. I just need to finish my coffee and read the paper, then I'll install it too :)
[07:40] <nacho_> shadeslayer: it shutdown even whit konqueror
[07:41] <inanimate> So what network management app is being used these days in Jaunty with 4.3?
[07:41] <Anarch> In KMix, many switches toggle between dark red and pink, or brown and yellow.  Which means on & which means off?
[07:42] <tbryant> Upgrading to 4.3, pretty excited. Be back later, thanks again, Elirips.
[07:42] <inanimate> Originally it was knetworkmanager, that was dropped in favor of the plasmoid, now the plasmoid is broken (#201429) and somebody is saying knetworkmanager is the new thing to use again?
[07:43] <nacho_> i have a problem
[07:43] <nacho_> and i cant find the solution
[07:43] <nacho_> my laptop shutsdown when i open flash video on fullscreen
[07:44] <shadeslayer> nacho_: hmm
[07:46] <Elirips> nacho_: shutdown? or crash?
[07:47] <nacho_> shutdown
[07:47] <nacho_> just starts shuting down
[07:53] <plagueusr> does anyone know the name of the ubuntu server?
[07:54] <amason_> what do you mean _the_ ubuntu server? do you mean the LTS release ?
[07:56] <plagueusr> welltihis is  #kubuntu waht is the "ubuntu" one?
[07:57] <nacho_> have a problem , my laptop shuts down when i open fullscreen flash, somebody help please haha
[07:57] <plagueusr> dont open it :P
[08:01] <amason_> haha
[08:01] <amason_> nacho_: is your computer getting too hot ?
[08:02] <nacho_> i dont know
[08:02] <nacho_> dont think so
[08:02] <nacho_> is new
[08:02] <nacho_> lol
[08:04] <nacho_> is there like a screensaver or something ??
[08:04] <nacho_> i was thinking maybe is something like that
[08:05] <nacho_> but didnt find out where to change that
[08:05] <nacho_> or maybe not,
[08:07] <amason_> nacho_: what graphics card is in there ?
[08:07] <amason_> nacho_: there isn't a whole lot of stuff that can cause a machine to turn off
[08:07] <nacho_> let me see
[08:07] <amason_> even kernel panics don't shut the machine down
[08:07] <nacho_> i am watching the processes now
[08:07] <nacho_> and theres something named xorg that is running by the root and its eating memory
[08:07] <amason_> pastebin the contents of sudo lspci
[08:08] <Novice> How do I change login screen?
[08:08] <amason_> nacho_: ignore that.
[08:08] <nacho_> ok
[08:08] <amason_> its not really eating memory, top lies.
[08:08] <HollowPoint> nacho are you running compiz or compositing by any chance?
[08:08] <HollowPoint> Novice: what version of Kubuntu are you running and what do you want to change it to?
[08:08] <nacho_> 0:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0c)
[08:09] <nacho_> yeah compiz is for default i think
[08:09] <Novice> HollowPoint: 9.04 just want different image
[08:10] <mbnoimi> what the different between kdesu and kdesudo ?
[08:10] <HollowPoint> kdesu runs the command as root, kdesudo runs it with root privileges but AS the user
[08:11] <HollowPoint> Novice, it should be in system settings, I've never had much luck with it to be honest, but then I've never been that bothered to muck around with it
[08:12] <mbnoimi> HollowPoint: thanks
[08:12] <nacho_> HollowPoint: it can be compiz the problem?
[08:15] <mbnoimi> I tried to kdesudo dolphin but I got: "Couldn't not start process Cannot talk to klauncher: the name org,k... not provided by any .service file"
[08:24] <mbnoimi> I tried to kdesudo dolphin but I got: "Couldn't not start process Cannot talk to klauncher: the name org,k... not provided by any .service file"
[08:28] <bhuey> I just tried to use the backport for 4.3 and it's got a lot of conflict. I'm doing this against the regular ubuntu and not kubuntu
[08:29] <bhuey> any suggestions ?
[08:30] <HollowPoint> bhuey, stop trying to do that
[08:30] <HollowPoint> simply "apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[08:31] <HollowPoint> then if it is already running 4.3 (It may well be by now) then simply do apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade and you'll find yourself running 4.3
[08:37] <aboSamoor> kde 4.3 is still not available for karmic and special ppa ?
[09:05] <kalp> what is xserver?
[09:05] <shadeslayer> !xserver
[09:05] <shadeslayer> !x11
[09:09] <kalp> my system is shuting down as core temp is exceeding limit. where is this limit set?
[09:11] <Cybertinus> kalp: in the CPU itself
[09:11] <Cybertinus> at what them does it shut down?
[09:11] <kalp> whats better in the new amarok? i found the earlier one much better.
[09:12] <Cybertinus> temp*
[09:12] <kalp> i think 95 or 100 dec C
[09:12] <Cybertinus> yeah, that is in the CPU itself
[09:12] <Cybertinus> you've got a cooling problem in your computer, you need to fix that
[09:13] <kalp> Cybertinus: yes i kno but its a problem with this model of laptop
[09:13] <Riddell> hi tackat
[09:14] <tackat> hi Riddell
[09:14] <kalp> Cybertinus: the batter goes bust in a year coz of the temp, now i run it without batter
[09:14] <Riddell> ** If you installed KDE 4.3 using the staging PPA you can remove that now
[09:14] <shadeslayer> Riddell: ok thanks :)
[09:15] <kalp> Cybertinus: battery
[09:17] <Cybertinus> kalp: that sound like the manufacturer of the laptop really screwed up :). What do they say about it when you contact them about this problem?
[09:18] <kalp> Cybertinus: they simply say its heating up normal, its an AMD procesor, so its expected, they say dont keep the laptop on ur lap!!!
[09:19] <kalp> Cybertinus: i m planning to stick sum heat sinks externally
[09:20] <Cybertinus> that sucks if the manufacturer tells you that :/
[09:21] <kalp> Cybertinus: welcome to india, its compaq if u r curious
[09:22] <kalp> Cybertinus: i was askin abt xserver coz, earlier i had nvidia xserver settings which showed me the temp setting and now the prog is not running
[09:23] <apparle> hi guys
[09:30] <kalp> Cybertinus: want to kno more? this is a 64 processor but the OS they installed was 32 bit and they dont even have 64bit drivers for the hardware on their website!!
[09:31] <kalp> Cybertinus: but with linix, no probs, all works fine in 64 bit
[09:32] <Cybertinus> yeah, linux is ready for 64 bit for years now :)
[09:45] <Liv> hi
[09:45] <Liv> is here somebody who can help me with the eth0 configuration?
[09:46] <Liv> i get the message: eth0 unmanaged and unknown host by ping google.com
[09:47] <Liv> oh and by ping ipadress i get: unreachable network
[09:47] <Liv> anyone?
[09:51] <bhuey> HollowPoint: it just has the 4.2 packages now
[09:51] <bhuey> so just wait for the 4.3 packages to arrival until then ?
[09:55] <tvn2009>   /j #ubuntu
[09:57] <HollowPoint> you're not running standard ubuntu then, you're running Kharmic?
[09:57] <Liv> me?
[09:57] <HollowPoint> sorry Liv no, bhuey
[09:57] <Liv> ah okay:)
[09:58] <HollowPoint> bhuey yes, I would think it will only be a few days at most before it's available on Kharmic
[09:58] <HollowPoint> Liv just read you're question, you sorted it yet?
[09:58] <Liv> nope not yet
[09:59] <HollowPoint> do you have dhcp enabled on your router?
[09:59] <Liv> i don't have a router, i live in a student accomondation
[10:00] <HollowPoint> oh right
[10:00] <HollowPoint> so how are you connecting to the network?
[10:00] <Liv> i have an ip assignet to me...
[10:00] <Liv> right know i'm on the windows part of my pc
[10:01] <HollowPoint> ok well on the Linux side of things if you know your ip address, subnet, gateway and DNS servers I can help you?
[10:01] <Liv> i know them all
[10:01] <HollowPoint> ok, one minute
[10:01] <Liv> okay:)
[10:05] <HollowPoint> http://www.pastebin.ca/1518955 should solve your woes, please let me know if anything is unclear or you need further advice?
[10:06] <Liv> let me try (i'll have to reboot first)
[10:06] <Liv> be right back
[10:06] <HollowPoint> ok
[10:11] <nasser> hello ppl
[10:13] <nasser> I'm having problems upgrading to KDE 4.3 any ideas ?
[10:15] <HollowPoint> what operating system are you running? i.e. Jaunty/Kharmic etc
[10:15] <nasser> Jaunty
[10:15] <nasser> I got this sum mismatch error
[10:15] <HollowPoint> Ubuntu or Kubuntu
[10:15] <nasser> kubunut
[10:16] <HollowPoint> have you upgraded fully before trying to upgrade to 4.3?
[10:16] <HollowPoint> i.e. apt-get update, apt-get upgrade, THEN apt-get dist-upgrade?
[10:16] <nasser> I did apt-get update, then upgrade
[10:16] <HollowPoint> so you haven
[10:17] <HollowPoint> t tried dist-upgrade?
[10:17] <nasser> I started all over again, and changed the mirror site. let me see this time
[10:18] <nasser> looks like the mirror site was the problem :) thanks HollowPoint anyway
[10:19] <HollowPoint> np
[10:21] <ocelot> ааа
[10:21] <ocelot> Русский
[10:21] <ocelot> Привет всем=)
[10:22] <Liv> back
[10:22] <Mamarok> !ru | ocelot
[10:22] <Liv> didn't work
[10:57] <radi82> hello, are there any other ways to autostart an application other than .xinirc and via Controll-center?
[10:57] <radi82> I mean in KDE off course.
[11:07] <gantix> Bonjour
[11:07] <t19mind> algun español??
[11:07] <gantix> Quelqu'un pourait il m'aider ? j'ai un petit souci
[11:07] <t19mind> necesit algo de ayuda...
[11:08] <Mamarok> !fr | gantix
[11:08] <Mamarok> !es | t19mind
[11:09] <gantix> Thank you ! :p
[11:09] <Mamarok> gantix: yaw :)
[11:09] <t19mind> Thanks
[11:10] <gantix> I has very difficult in english
[11:10] <Mamarok> gantix: I speak French, do you agree on a PM?
[11:11] <Mamarok> gantix: je peux t'aider dans un salon privé si t'es daccord
[11:22] <Mathematician> switch user in KDE 4.3 is not giving any switching dialog ?! it gives me the screen lock dialog
[11:27] <neptunepink> How do I import the key for kubuntu-ppa?
[11:30] <shadeslayer> hi,kdm loads slowly on startup,apparently gdm is the culprit but where do i set kdm as the default login manager?
[11:44] <ghostcube> hmm, i noticed that the default window manager isnt starting compiz automaticly in 4.3.0 is there anything about
[11:44] <ghostcube> but at all ice done so far i love the treee view for systemsettings :)
[12:17] <trapa__> hi i want to learn how copy and mv files
[12:17] <trapa__> with consol
[12:18] <LadyNikon> trapa__: you use cp
[12:18] <trapa__> how copy a files and put in ahother fils
[12:19] <LadyNikon> cp file.bz2 to /folder/file.bz2
[12:19] <LadyNikon> ermm
[12:19] <trapa__> thank you
[12:19] <LadyNikon> cp and mv can be tricky btw
[12:20] <LadyNikon> cause one can overwrite a file if it has the same name trapa__
[12:20] <LadyNikon> so i would look up more on it.
[12:25] <trapa__> i have a problem with cp to copy
[12:25] <trapa__> i have 2 folders in my personel folder
[12:25] <trapa__> one his name foramtionlinux and the second lili
[12:26] <trapa__> in formationlinux i have a folder his name is koukou
[12:26] <trapa__> i want to copy koukou and put koukou in lili
[12:26] <trapa__> how?
[12:26] <trapa__> by consol?
[12:31] <radi82> Hi. If I install KDE4.3 via launchpad and experience problems, is it possible to remove the package-source and downgrade to 4.2 again?
[12:32] <cypr1nus> hello, anyone upgraded kde to 4.3 from ppa.launchpad.net ? i've got problems with kwin (can't start)
[12:32] <shadeslayer> cypr1nus: please see topic
[12:32] <shadeslayer> radi82: yes...just remove the repo and reinstall kubuntu-desktop
[12:33] <shadeslayer> be back in a jiffy
[12:33] <cypr1nus> shadeslayer: you mean it's unofficial?
[12:33] <radi82> shadeslayer, any option-flags like --force needed to downgrade?
[12:36] <marco_> hi everybody
[12:37] <marco_> I am trying to update my 9.04 but I receive a "the following packages have been kept back" message
[12:37] <marco_> what does that mean?
[12:38] <marco_> hello
[12:38] <marco_> anybody?
[12:39] <raphink> it means that the listed packages haven't been upgraded
[12:39] <cypr1nus> how is it called the application to make usb flash drive bootable distribution install disc?
[12:39] <raphink> probably because upgrading them would require to remove other packages
[12:39] <marco_> but well
[12:40] <raphink> I don't know how to solve that graphically
[12:40] <marco_> @raphink 0 thank bud. but what i want to do is update my kde, because I still have issues like it cannot be turned off, kopete not working, connection problem etc etc
[12:40] <raphink> in a console, I would just apt-get install those packages and see what it would remove
[12:41] <marco_> @raphink > it would remove libholiday4
[12:41] <marco_> sorry, libkholidays4
[12:41] <marco_> is that bad?
[12:42] <raphink> I don't know this lib
[12:42] <raphink> doesn't seem bad
[12:42] <raphink> I don't have it and I'm still alive
[12:43] <marco_> ok
[12:43] <marco_> thanks a lot my friend
[12:43] <raphink> np
[13:00] <darkhamm> hey people, how can i build in kde 4.3.0 a bar to the right of desktop, with the widget fixed?
[13:01] <diamond> just installed kubuntu 9.04. my soundcard (SB Audigy 2 Value) wont "work"... I guess itś configured with digital output enabled... I want to disable that..Ho do I do that..?..
[13:10] <desaparecido> hi, somebody has the blackscreen problem after last upgrade to final KDE 4.3 in karmic? and internet connection too...
[13:12] <shadeslayer> desaparecido: #ubuntu+1 please
[13:13] <Guest44582> Hello?
[13:36] <tnuic> hi, I have ubuntu installed and I would like to get Kubuntu stuff... but I want it to change the default applications too, like if I had installed just kubuntu... is there a dpkg-reconfigure kubuntu like command?
[13:41] <wers> what's kde 4.3's network manager? i cant find the plasmoid for it. i lost it for some reason
[13:42] <ghostcube> systemsettings network
[13:42] <ghostcube> and there must be a taskbar icon
[13:43] <wers> ghostcube, i dont see a taskbar icon. i had to install knetwork manager to go online
[13:43] <ghostcube> hmmm
[13:45] <ghostcube> i need anyone on kde 4.3 with compiz
[13:45] <wers> ghostcube, i have
[13:45] <wers> i'm using it now. i find kwin slow
[13:45] <wers> i'm wondering why but compiz really is much snappier
[13:45] <ghostcube> you can choose compiz as default wm
[13:45] <ghostcube> in systemsettings
[13:46] <wers> i just change it with fusion-icon
[13:46] <ghostcube> hmm ok
[13:46] <ghostcube> i use the onboard method
[13:46] <wers> what's that method?
[13:46] <ghostcube> and this isnt working anymore for autostarting it
[13:46] <ghostcube> systemsettings >> default components >> window manager
[13:46] <wers> if you autostart fusion-icon, you'll have compiz autostart
[13:47] <ghostcube> i know
[13:47] <ghostcube> but after plasma
[13:47] <ghostcube> or before
[13:47] <wers> the older versions broke kwin window border support on compiz, right?
[13:47] <wers> this is bugging me because i have my metacity borders
[13:49] <wers> apparently, krunner doesnt work on compiz
[13:51] <darthanubis> kwin is slow? Glad I don't have your computer
[13:51] <shadeslayer> hehe
[13:51] <wers> darthanubis, well, a lot less snappier than compiz
[13:51] <wers> i mean, less snappy
[13:51] <darthanubis> like I said
[13:52] <zipito_> good day
[13:52] <wers> what's 4.3's package manager?
[13:53] <darthanubis> You guys just reminded me to completely remove the compiz wrapper
[13:53] <zipito_> I've update to the recent kde 4.3 but I don't here any sound in KDE applications :(  in gnome everything is fine
[13:53] <shadeslayer> wers: its kpackagekit
[13:53] <shadeslayer> zipito_: check kmixer
[13:53] <darthanubis> zipito_: do you know how to use KDE?
[13:53] <darthanubis> like systemsettings sound
[13:53] <darthanubis> then set the default sound application to run for KDE
[13:54] <zipito_> shadeslayer, darkhamm double checked ;)
[13:54] <darthanubis> Sounds like your pulseaudio is misconfigured
[13:54] <zipito_> systemsettings sound doesn't here a voice
[13:54] <darthanubis> ??
[13:54] <shadeslayer> zipito_: all channels selected and set to high?
[13:54] <zipito_> yes
[13:54] <shadeslayer> hmm
[13:54] <darthanubis> of course his channels are set right, he has sound in gnome
[13:54] <darthanubis> is PULSEAUDIO is borked
[13:55] <darthanubis> follow the pulseaudio ubuntu wiki and all will be well
[13:55] <zipito_> the most strange thing if I uncheck the mute of the microfon sound in the KMix I begin to here mine voice :)
[13:55] <darthanubis> wers: 4.3's package manager is what ever manager you choose to use
[13:56] <darthanubis> uh brother
[13:56] <darthanubis> do you want to hear your voice or actual audio?
[13:56] <wers> thanks
[13:56] <tnuic> hi, I have ubuntu installed and I would like to get Kubuntu stuff... but I want it to change the default applications too, like if I had installed just kubuntu... is there a dpkg-reconfigure kubuntu like command?
[13:57] <zipito_> darthanubis, nope
[13:57] <shadeslayer> tnuic: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[13:57] <darthanubis> tnuic: try actually searching synaptic before you ask a question like this to save everyone time
[13:57] <mostafa> I want to make an icon that when I click on it, runs this command "sudo konqueror" any body knows how can I do this?
[13:57] <zipito_> but actually it tells me that there are some problem with mine recent kde configuration
[13:57] <mostafa> thnx
[13:57] <darthanubis> tnuic: search for kubuntu-desktop
[13:57] <make> when kde 4.3 can be installed in kubuntu?
[13:57] <zipito_> can I delete the whole ~/.kde directory and the ~/.kde4
[13:57] <zipito_> ?
[13:58] <zipito_> is it safe (I don't bother of saving mine preferences or mails - everything interesting on the server)
[13:58] <darthanubis> zipito_: I told you how to fix your issue already
[13:58] <darthanubis> make: read the topic PLEASE
[13:58] <mostafa> any help would be appreciated
[13:58] <make> o.sorry
[13:59] <shadeslayer> mostafa: open kate
[13:59] <mostafa> ok
[13:59] <mostafa> I opened it
[13:59] <shadeslayer> mostafa: type " kdesudo konqueror "
[14:00] <mostafa> ok I typed
[14:00] <shadeslayer> mostafa: save it as .sh file on the desktop
[14:00] <shadeslayer> mostafa: open a konsole
[14:00] <darthanubis> lol
[14:00] <darthanubis> that is NOT what he asked for
[14:00] <shadeslayer> darthanubis: hold on will you
[14:01] <shadeslayer> darthanubis: thats the only way this can be done.....suggest a better way if you cam
[14:01] <shadeslayer> *can
[14:01] <darthanubis> it is NOT the ONLY way
[14:01] <darthanubis> there never is one way to do soemthing
[14:01] <darthanubis> but there is a wrong way
[14:01] <shadeslayer> darthanubis: the only way *i* can think of
[14:01] <gsi> а по русски говорит здесь кто нибудь?
[14:01] <mostafa> I do all you say
[14:01] <shadeslayer> darthanubis: we dont want the wrong way
[14:01] <darthanubis> he wants an application launcher to give him a root konq explorer
[14:01] <lancelot> gsi ?
[14:01] <shadeslayer> mostafa: have you opened konsole
[14:02] <mostafa> no no
[14:02] <shadeslayer> darthanubis: thats what im giving him...a script to launch konqueror
[14:02] <shadeslayer> in root
[14:02] <darthanubis> He does not want a script
[14:02] <mostafa> I opened it
[14:02] <mostafa> then?
[14:02] <shadeslayer> now cd to the desktop
[14:02] <mostafa> ok
[14:03] <shadeslayer> chmod a+x filename
[14:03] <mostafa> ok
[14:03] <mostafa> then?
[14:03] <mostafa> run it
[14:03] <mostafa> ?
[14:03] <shadeslayer> mostafa: all done! now click on the script on the desktop
[14:05] <tnuic> darthanubis: I have installed kubuntu-desktop package and it does not change the default applications... for instance, totem remains the default video player...
[14:05] <mostafa> shadeslayer: very good to you thank you
[14:05] <mostafa> it is all done
[14:05] <darthanubis> tnuic: that is because you did not change the default apps
[14:05] <shadeslayer> mostafa: ;)
[14:06] <shadeslayer> mostafa: you can right click the file and go to properties and change the icon too :)
[14:06] <darthanubis> dirty, but it works
[14:06] <darthanubis> could have just added a widget from plasma
[14:06] <darthanubis> to laucn whatever
[14:07] <darthanubis> launch
[14:07] <tnuic> darthanubis: that's my question, if there is an automated script or configuration to change all the default application to kde ones
[14:07] <darthanubis> tnuic: lol, of course not
[14:07] <mostafa> shadeslayer :how ? I open the properties but I don't know how to change icon
[14:07] <darthanubis> tnuic: unless you call apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop an automated script to change defaults
[14:08] <darthanubis> If you want default Kubuntu, you install a clean Kubuntu
[14:08] <BluesKaj> howdy all
[14:09] <shadeslayer> mostafa: click the wrench :P
[14:09] <darthanubis> The channel needs you BluesKaj
[14:10] <mostafa> Click on it then?
[14:10] <BluesKaj> darthanubis, well, I'm here for a little while , but I can see it's already in good hands :)
[14:10] <shadeslayer> mostafa: of course!! then click on the icon in the new window
[14:10] <wers> how do I manage gtk styles and fonts on 4.3?
[14:10] <shadeslayer> !gtk
[14:10] <shadeslayer> ugh..
[14:10] <mostafa> Really excuse me
[14:10] <mostafa> thanks
[14:11] <shadeslayer> !info gtk-qt-engine | wers
[14:11] <darthanubis> wers: again search synaptic for the answer there or google. That is what I do when I forget the name of that app to install
[14:11] <darthanubis> there it is
[14:11] <shadeslayer> :P
[14:11] <BluesKaj> !gnu
[14:11] <mostafa> I mistakenly click on the first icon that apear at the first screen
[14:11] <shadeslayer> dpkg -l to the rescue
[14:11] <mostafa> shadeslayer: thanks :D ;)
[14:11] <BluesKaj> hehe
[14:11] <wers> thanks darthanubis
[14:11] <shadeslayer> mostafa: no probs
[14:12]  * BluesKaj goes for a coffee ,brb
[14:16] <mostafa> shadeslayer : can you help me how to learn shell by issuing me a link or pdf I don't know what ever you think good 4 this work?
[14:16] <mostafa> can you?
[14:16] <shadeslayer> !cli | mostafa
[14:19] <mostafa> thank you both bro s
[14:19] <mostafa> :D
[14:21] <mostafa> another thing when I restart or shutdown the system won't do that till I press alt+ctrl+del and then it says "stopping all md devices" then it reboot s even if I press the shutdown button
[14:21] <mostafa> can you help me bro s?
[14:23] <mostafa> shadeslayer: can you?
[14:23] <shadeslayer> hmm
[14:23] <shadeslayer> mostafa: never seen that....
[14:24] <mostafa> shadeslayer : thanks
[14:25] <BluesKaj> shadeslayer, I've had a shutsown prob since I upgraded to 4.3 , but I'm also on karmic ..been using sudo halt or reboot in cli , depending on what's required
[14:26] <mostafa> shakeslayer : I want just sth like a dream in my mind can I have Icon when I clicked on it ,it just do some adjustment for me is it possible?
[14:27] <shadeslayer> mostafa: like a shutdown icon?
[14:27] <mostafa> shakeslayer : for example I want an Icon when I clicked on it it decreses the brightness of screen
[14:27] <shadeslayer> mostafa: copy the konqueror file and edit the command to kdesudo halt -h NOW
[14:27] <mostafa> ?
[14:27] <shadeslayer> mostafa: ohh....idk if thats possible
[14:28] <mostafa> what is idk?
[14:28] <shadeslayer> you need to access the bios for that....no idea if its remotely possible
[14:28] <shadeslayer> idk : i dont know
[14:28] <mostafa> aha ;)
[14:29] <mostafa> shakeslayer :any way thanks for your responsibility
[14:30] <shadeslayer> no probs
[14:33] <mostafa> shakeslayer: isn't it possible to set the value of sth by a simple shell script for example set the brightness=50% it is just an example out of my mind
[14:34] <shadeslayer> mostafa: i really dont know......google might know though.....
[14:34] <mostafa> thnks bro
[14:34] <shadeslayer> mostafa: you might need to pass values into the power manager to do all of that
[14:34] <mostafa> ;)
[14:34] <BluesKaj> shadeslayer, I admire your patience and tolerance ...if someone constantlt nisspelled mt name while asking for advice , I would get a bit irritated
[14:35] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: hehe....
[14:35] <BluesKaj> err misspelled
[14:35] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: btw... vlc wont work :P
[14:35] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: Cannot mix incompatible Qt libraries
[14:37] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: be back in a moment
[14:37] <BluesKaj> shadeslayer, won't work for ? I've fogotten
[14:40] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: never mind...i forgot that i was in neon...works in 4.3
[14:40] <bigos> hi
[14:41] <bigos> ive got a problem, when i "apt-get update" it throws out that i dont have some gpg key
[14:41] <bigos> or something like that
[14:42] <bigos> its kubuntu key NO_PUBKEY 2836CB0A8AC93F7A
[14:42] <bigos> something like this
[14:42] <bigos> then i did " gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv 2836CB0A8AC93F7A
[14:43] <bigos> that should download and install this key, right?
[14:43] <mostafa> raphink: is it possible?
[14:43] <bigos> it says it does
[14:43] <bigos> but apt still tells me that this key is missing
[14:44] <BluesKaj> bigos, sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 2836CB0A8AC93F7A
[14:45] <bigos> BluesKaj: thanks! I suppose i didnt import that key into apt ... or something... is that right?
[14:45] <BluesKaj> yeah bigos , most likely
[14:45] <bigos> thanks, i like to learn new things ;)
[14:45] <tommy_> how worried should i be?
[14:46] <tommy_> WARNING: REMOTE HOST IDENTIFICATION HAS CHANGED!
[14:49] <capcom> hi
[14:49] <bigos> where can i find whats changed in KDE4.3? I cant find any link in the annoucment
[14:49] <wubrgamer> hey everyone, what's up?
[14:49] <quintasan1> anyone managed to get fglrx to work?
[14:49] <BluesKaj> bigos, http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.3
[14:50] <BluesKaj> quintasan1, which card ?
[14:50] <capcom> is there a possibility to disable the transparency of the taskbar without disabling window effects completely? concerns kde 4.2 / 4.3
[14:50] <quintasan1> Radeon HD 3450
[14:55] <BluesKaj> and which driver are you using quintasan1 ?
[14:55] <quintasan1> BluesKaj: currently I'm using console :P
[14:55] <quintasan1> BluesKaj: radeon works, but is slow, radeonhd doesn't work and flgrx doesnt work
[14:57] <BluesKaj> quintasan1, do you mean fglrx-glxgears ?
[14:57] <darthanubis> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=202366
[14:57] <quintasan1> BluesKaj: I mean it just doesn't load
[14:57] <quintasan1> BluesKaj: when I add Driver line it mumbles about unusable screens
[14:58] <orion> Could not install Air  final update (plasma theme)
[14:58] <quintasan1> and with sudo aticonfig --initial && sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start my system hangs
[14:58] <orion> help
[15:03] <BluesKaj> ok, quintasan1 , so you're using the default driver, after install?
[15:03] <quintasan1> BluesKaj: yeah, radeon
[15:04] <Quintasan> BluesKaj: default driver works but it's slow
[15:04] <Quintasan> I wanted to try fglrx
[15:08] <BluesKaj> Quintasan, try the other xserver-xorg-video-ati driver , but you'll have to uninstall the xserver-xorg-video-radeon driver first, so you may need to do from the TTY if the vesa driver doesn't work
[15:08] <darkhamm> hey people, how can i build in kde 4.3.0 a bar to the right of desktop, with the widget fixed?
[15:08] <darkhamm> something vista like?
[15:08] <quintasan1> jockey failed too
[15:08] <quintasan1> BluesKaj: ^
[15:10] <BluesKaj> quintasan1, the vesa driver takes over in absence of other drivers for X
[15:11] <quintasan1> BluesKaj: dunno what you mean, I'm trying to make fglrx work
[15:11] <aarjona> hello
[15:11] <quintasan1> BluesKaj: driver "radeon" works
[15:11] <aarjona> could any kind soul please pastebin the key that appears here: http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x2836CB0A8AC93F7A
[15:12] <aarjona> I can't access non 80 port sites from here :(
[15:26] <BluesKaj> sorry quintasan1 , you compalined that your driver was slow and and stalls etc , I was suggesting maybe the other ati driver might work better than your default , That's all I can do. I recommend you do some research on google-linux to try to find a solution , unless someone else here can help you. Anyone ?
[15:29] <BluesKaj> aarjona, what'the source site for that key ?
[15:30] <BluesKaj> aarjona, you could try this: sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 0x2836cb0a8ac93f7a
[15:32] <aarjona> BluesKaj: thanks
[15:33] <aarjona> that was the key for the ppa with kde4.3
[15:33] <BluesKaj> aarjona, ok
[15:39] <bigos> hi
[15:41] <bigos> i tried to upgrade to kde4.3, but there is an error i cant understand... it says that dpgk tried to overwrite "/usr/lib/libkephal" that exist also in kde-workspace-bin... and it occurs while trying to install kde-workspace-dev_4%3a4.3.0-0ubuntu1~jaunty1~ppa4_amd64.deb
[15:42] <bigos> apt-get -f install doesnt help
[15:43] <DerDieb> you used "apt-get upgrade" or apt-get "dist-upgrade"?
[15:43] <mildner> how do I repair the plasma desktop in kde 4.3
[15:48] <bigos> DerDieb: dist-upgrade
[15:48] <ghostcube> mildner: what is broken
[15:49] <mildner> my desktop is without the plasmoid
[15:49] <ghostcube> you updated with backports-ppa and staging repo ?
[15:50] <mildner> no I did sudo apt-get upgrade kde 4.3
[15:50] <bigos> with this one: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu jaunty main
[15:50] <bigos> oops
[15:50] <ghostcube> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/staging/ubuntu jaunty main
[15:50] <ghostcube> and this one
[15:50] <bigos> he wasnt talking to me
[15:50] <bigos> ;)
[15:51] <bigos> or were you?
[15:51] <ghostcube> mildner sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[15:51] <ghostcube> then login if still not working
[15:51] <ghostcube> mv ~/.kde ~/.kde-old
[15:51] <ghostcube> and try a new login
[15:52] <HmpfCBR> k3b (from jaunty main) with kde 4.3.0 from kubuntu backports, does not start here. no crash handler, no konsole output. anyone experiencing the same?
[15:52] <ubuntu> hello
[15:52] <ubuntu> this is a test
[15:53] <ghostcube> not succesful
[15:53] <selolie> ?
[15:53] <mildner> ghostcube  is it just one comand all together?
[15:53] <test> test again
[15:53] <ghostcube> yep before add the repos
[15:53] <test> thank you ! its work :)
[15:54] <mildner> the repository I added but he needs the security id
[15:54] <ghostcube> no need for
[15:54] <ghostcube> only warning
[15:56] <Hystoriker> hi everyone. Just a quick question about the network-manager-plasmoid: Under kde 4.3 it does still show the icon for being not connected, although i am connected via wlan. Is there any chance this will change again? it used to work in 4.2
[15:57] <Hystoriker> i already found out that the plasmoid is on a different development schedule than kde.
[15:58] <Hystoriker> in #kde someone told me, that there is going to be a systray thingy too, that seems to be the future. can i activate it in kubuntu?
[16:00]  * emedril is away: Zur Zeit nicht da.
[16:03] <BluesKaj> Hystoriker, sometimes one gets 2 network managers running at once and of course the first one is the default but the second one appears in the tray ...that's a bug I encountered while using the widget network manager , which i have since dumped in favour of the 'wicd network manager '.
[16:08] <darkhamm> how can i check an ntfs partition?
[16:09] <TheSilentWarrior> hi, now can i remove KDE completely? I installed it on my laptop, but its old so, KDE gets pretty slow, changed to XFCE
[16:09] <genii> darkhamm: The best way is to run CHKDSK on it from inside Windows to make sure filesystem is marked clean, etc. There is no equivelent utility in Linux for that.
[16:24] <G__81> i installed kubuntu-desktop in my ubuntu laptop running 9.04. The problem is that i am not able to connect to internet from kde but from gnome it works fine
[16:24] <G__81> it behaves in a weird way
[16:25] <G__81> can someone help me on this ?
[16:25] <cuznt> what do you use to connect? knetwalk? network management?
[16:26] <cuznt> !wifi
[16:26] <cuznt> !eth0
[16:27] <G__81> cuznt, there is a plasma widget thats on the desktop i use that and it shows my SSIDs and when i click on it it prompts me for password but when i give the password it says Connecting to "SSID" and then that notification goes but when i see the widget itself it does not even initiate authentication
[16:27] <cuznt> right click and choose manage connections
[16:27] <cuznt> try that
[16:27] <G__81> yes i did that
[16:27] <cuznt> ok
[16:27] <G__81> i gave the password there
[16:28] <cuznt> it asks for root password correct?
[16:28] <G__81> no it does not
[16:28] <wubrgamer> yeah, how _do_ you completely remove all packages installed by kubuntu-desktop?
[16:28] <cuznt> that is the password it wants
[16:28] <cuznt> i believe
[16:28] <G__81> let me try that
[16:28] <G__81> and get back
[16:28] <G__81> thanks
[16:28] <cuznt> eth0 or wlan?
[16:28] <marquis> How can i connect through a proxyserver in Kubuntu 9.04?
[16:29] <G__81> wlan
[16:29] <cuznt> !proxy
[16:29] <G__81> wlan0
[16:29] <cuznt> right on G
[16:30] <marquis> somebody help pls
[16:30] <PolitikerNEU> Does anybody know a ppa for kdevelop4?
[16:30] <PolitikerNEU> (jaunty)
[16:31] <bigjools> https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas?name_filter=kdevelop
[16:41] <bdizzle> !cube
[16:46] <G__81> i have got myself connected to internet from kubuntu
[16:47] <G__81> i want my DNS servers to be used so i tried specifiying it but the resolv.conf does not get changed
[16:47] <G__81> cuznt, i tried right clicking on the applet clicked on Manage connections and selected the IP address tab and select DHCP and Manual DNS option and gave my DNS addresses in the following format
[16:47] <G__81> x.x.x.x,y.y.y.y
[16:48] <G__81> is that right?
[16:48] <G__81> two DNS Servers
[16:48] <G__81> but after having given this the resolv.conf gets a Dynamic DNS address
[16:48] <G__81> how do i solve this ?
[16:49] <G__81> can someone help me on this ?
[16:51] <G__81> anyone here ?
[16:52] <bomber_1234> yes
[16:52] <G__81> bomber_1234, thanks i want to use the specified DNS server so i have given the DNS in the application but when i do cat of resolv.conf it uses the default
[16:52] <G__81> how do i change it
[16:54] <bomber_1234> ok... lets see
[16:54] <bomber_1234> first... sudo network-admin
[16:54] <G__81> network-admin it says command not found
[16:54] <bomber_1234> change all dns what you want...
[16:55] <G__81> its a Ubuntu 9.04 where in i installed kubuntu-desktop
[16:55] <bomber_1234> ok...
[16:55] <G__81> is there anything else that i need to install
[16:56] <genii> G__81: If the interface is set to auto get an IP it will always overwrite the resolv.conf with whatever the dhcp server sends it
[16:56] <bomber_1234> modify the file /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf...
[16:56] <bomber_1234> with the text
[16:57] <bomber_1234> prepend domain-name-servers dns1, dns2;
[16:57] <bomber_1234> ahhh set the interface to set a static ip
[16:57] <bomber_1234> first
[16:57] <G__81> i want the Interface to have DHCP but the DNS to be static
[16:57] <G__81> its possible
[16:58] <bomber_1234> yes
[16:58] <G__81> and hence i cannot have static Interface IP
[16:58] <bdizzle> !cube
[16:58] <G__81> ok i have done this
[16:59] <G__81> prepend domain-name-server dns1,dns2
[16:59] <G__81> request subnet-mask, broadcast-address, time-offset, routers,
[16:59] <G__81> the prepend part i have added
[16:59] <G__81> infact uncommented
[16:59] <G__81> then the request part was already there
[16:59] <G__81> right?
[16:59] <FloodBotK1> G__81: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:01] <genii> G__81: In the dhclient.conf ?
[17:07] <munny> hi all...
[17:09] <mildner> is it possible to connect the calender with google calender?
[17:25] <Guest16840> hallo  bekomme es nicht hin mit dem suspent to ram
[17:25] <Pici> !de | Guest16840
[17:29] <cjae> ok so kde 4.3 upgrade via aptitude broke my system, I think maybe just some of the packages are being held back, is this correct?
[17:47] <rbrunhuber> Can anybody help me to correct my locale settings?
[17:58] <reza> how can i share my files through lan (to other client pc)
[18:01] <pulaski> Hello I run kubuntu 9.04, kernel 2.68.28-11.  I have a creative sound blaster X-fi Platinum sound card with the front loading bay.  Since creative has released the X-Fi source headers does anyone know when the new kernel will incorporate this driver and when kubuntu to release it?
[18:02] <pulaski> reza: NFS
[18:03] <reza> ? nfs
[18:04] <reza> pulaski i didnt getu
[18:05] <pulaski> reza:  network file system, check out http://www.ubuntugeek.com/nfs-server-and-client-configuration-in-ubuntu.html
[18:06] <deprecated> Please fill in the blank... In Kubuntu we don't us su we execute ______
[18:07] <dr_bro> when logging into 9.04, keyboard flashes and screen blanks out for a second and login screen comes back up. password is right because i can log into console
[18:16] <reza> where is vi edditor in kubuntu
[18:17] <jhutchins_wk> reza: May not be installed, but "locate vi" should show you.   Or "which vi".
[18:24] <Riddell> ** jaunty testers needed for new network manager and python-kde4, ping me if you're able to help
[18:25] <Kopfgeldjaeger> how can i synchronize the audio track in kino?
[18:25] <bernier> Hi, what's is the equivalent of "update-manager -d" for kubuntu?
[18:32] <Riddell> bernier: update-notifier-kde -d
[18:36] <bernier> thanks Riddell
[18:36] <rmrfslash> Is anyone else hanging at this point when running aptitude update? 96% [Connecting to archive.canonical.com (91.189.90.142)]
[18:37] <Pliskin> Riddell : the version in the backports ppa ?
[18:37] <Riddell> Pliskin: python-kde4 and plasma-widget-networkmanagement in Kubuntu staging PPA need testing
[18:38] <Pliskin> rmrfslash : yes, it's the same for me
[18:38] <Pliskin> but you can outpass it with apt-get (I don't know for aptitude)
[18:39] <Riddell> rmrfslash: I think archive.canonical.com is overloaded today
[18:39] <Riddell> you may want to disable it
[18:39] <rmrfslash> Will I miss updates if I disable it?
[18:39] <Riddell> no
[18:40] <rmrfslash> Pliskin: I tried sudo apt-get update, hangs at the same point
[18:41] <Pliskin> rmrfslash : sorry, my english is bad, I misunderstood "hangs"
[18:42] <Pliskin> yes, like Riddel said, the server is maybe down, don't bother with it ^^
[18:42] <Pliskin> the important packages are on the ubuntu repos, or the kubuntu ppa
[18:49] <Pliskin> Riddell : (sorry to bother), what's the difference between the backports ppa and the staging one ?
[18:52] <hafiztang> hello
[18:52] <hafiztang> somebody could help me ?
[18:53] <Riddell> Pliskin: staging has packages in testing and packages still being built
[18:53] <hafiztang> help me pls
[18:53] <Riddell> !help
[18:54] <hafiztang> ubottu:
[18:55] <hafiztang> ubottu: i want to install ubuntu into my desired partition
[18:55] <Pliskin> Riddell : thanks, I see that plasma-widget-networkmanagment is already in the backports ppa, I'll try to help when the upgrade is complete :)
[18:56] <barraponto> hey guys, is there any qt-based app for web developing?
[18:56] <barraponto> or any kate plugin ?
[18:57] <Pliskin> barraponto : there was quanta
[18:57] <Pliskin> but I don't think the project is still alive
[18:57] <d0tk0m> hey peeps, what do i need to get dvd playback through vlc player? kubuntu 9.04 kde4.3
[19:01] <pein> barraponto : quanta > quanta.kdewebdev.org
[19:03] <barraponto> Pliskin: thanks
[19:03] <barraponto> pein: thanks
[19:08] <bigleon> Hello there
[19:29] <luke_> anyone else having trouble upgrading to KDE 4.3?
[19:30] <luke_> apt-get can't connect to archive.canonical.com, and it won't let me get the rest of the packages. I'm in gnome now. :-(
[19:33] <BluesKaj> luke_, yes, it's been down all day as well as medibuntu
[19:33] <luke_> ah, k.
[19:33] <luke_> well, that sucks.
[19:33] <luke_> thanks. :-)
[19:33] <FloodBotK2> luke_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:33] <BluesKaj> np
[19:34] <jeansch> !knetworkmanager
[19:34] <jeansch> Hi
[19:36] <BluesKaj> jeansch, having probs with widget-network-manager?
[19:36] <BluesKaj> or knetwork manager
[19:37] <BluesKaj> !info wicd | jeansch
[19:38] <BluesKaj> that's the network manager that's working on the newer versions of kubuntu like jaunty
[19:38] <BluesKaj> the others are flaky
[19:38] <jeansch> I'm trying (very hard) kde 4.3, and i have a problem with knetworkmanager: i show me the AP (wifi), i'm able en enter the key, check the box 'connect automaticaly', but a cannot have the net. nm-applet works fine. Any clue ? (on karmic)
[19:39] <bigleon> Hello, I am having the problem as described here, "https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-bugs/2009-March/068998.html" and can't seem to find any solutions for this. Does anyone know where i could look to find a solution or know one?
[19:40] <BluesKaj> jeansch, knetwork manager hjas been replaced by the nm-applet on jaunty and karmic
[19:41] <Pliskin> BluesKaj : that's not true
[19:41] <jeansch> BluesKaj: no
[19:42] <jeansch> BluesKaj: apt-cache show kubuntu-desktop before saying something like that
[19:42] <BluesKaj> well, that's odd after I updated to jaunty knetwork manager was gone , but youguys go ahead and sort it out amongst yourselves :)
[19:43] <Pliskin> what you call knetmanager, it's the kde3 app, I suppose
[19:44] <jeansch> Pliskin: nop
[19:44] <BluesKaj> of course i didn't use a wireless setup until after I upgraded to jaunty , so maybe that's the reason it wasn't retained on my system
[19:44] <Pliskin> On KDE4, there is plasma-widget-networkmanager
[19:44] <jeansch> Pliskin: it's in the plasma-widget-networkmanagement package, and the plasma-thing about network managment tell that it's better to use it
[19:45] <BluesKaj> yes, but I haven't seen knetworkmanager since intrepid
[19:45] <Pliskin> and it's often broken, but in kubuntu they pick up versions that "work" (well, work but it"s buggy)
[19:45] <JontheEchidna> knetworkmanager has made a comeback, btw
[19:45] <Pliskin> BluesKaj : yes, like I said, it's a KDE3 app, and there is no KDE3 app anymore in jaunty
[19:45] <jeansch> dpkg -S /usr/bin/knetworkmanager
[19:45] <jeansch> plasma-widget-networkmanagement: /usr/bin/knetworkmanager
[19:46] <JontheEchidna> they're using it while they redo the plasmoid
[19:46] <Pliskin> oh, good to know, thanks JontheEchidna
[19:46] <JontheEchidna> totally rewritten than the one in kde3
[19:46] <BluesKaj> well, it's semantics i suppose cuz wicd is the one to use IMO
[19:49] <jeansch> BluesKaj: can wicd tell to the 'desktop' apps that you are online of offline ?
[19:49] <jeansch> i think no
[19:49] <BluesKaj> yes
[19:49] <Pliskin> is there a qt front-end for wicd ?
[19:50] <bigleon> Just letting you know, I figured an alernative to using hte preinstalled Kubuntu remote desktop access by using x11vnc
[19:50] <jeansch> is wicd integrated with a keyring ? (gnome-keyring or kwallet) ?
[19:50] <BluesKaj> Pliskin, there's a gui ,dunno  what it's written in
[19:51] <jeansch> gtk+
[19:51] <Pliskin> that's it
[19:51] <Pliskin> Kubuntu is Qt/KDE distro, BluesKaj
[19:51] <BluesKaj> I use kde4 so most likely Qt4
[19:52] <jeansch> JontheEchidna: are you using knetworkmanager ?
[19:52] <jeansch> (with wifi) ?
[19:52] <skolnek> is anyone running a old geoforce4 nvidia with 9.04? just wondering on compatibility.
[19:52] <BluesKaj> well, I use some gtk apps , cuz i like 'em , not a purist
[19:52] <malik_> hi all,
[19:53] <BluesKaj> !info wicd
[19:53] <malik_> can any one tell me a totem movie player plugin which i can use to record an online audio stream to an mp3 file??
[19:54] <zuz> skolnek: you can search it on google for minimum requirements and see if your geforce is compatible
[19:54] <zuz> the geforce4 series are probably compatible
[19:54] <Pliskin> BluesKaj : it's not about being un purist, it's about integration
[19:54] <JontheEchidna> jeansch: nah, I have a wired connection
[19:54] <BluesKaj> yup, but as long as it works
[19:55] <skolnek> thanks zuz it is compatable but just wodering if it was buggy.
[19:55] <Pliskin> I use firefox too when konqueror doesn't work, but the networkmanager plasmoid work for me
[19:55] <zuz> skolnek: you can always burn the CD and run Kubuntu from the CD like it was installed and play around it
[19:55] <zuz> opera browser got me to use it instead of firefox, its so fast
[19:56] <canen_> anyone having issues with openoffice since the kde 4.3 upgrade?
[19:56] <BluesKaj> I prefer kubuntu-desktop , but that's cuz i'm an old windows guy and the look is familiar
[19:56] <jeansch> Pliskin: arora is not bad :) but bookmarks import seems not easy
[19:56] <skolnek> I was just wondering befor I upgrade.
[19:56] <zuz> kde 4.3 looks nice, i just got it
[19:56] <jeansch> Pliskin: are you using jaunty or karmic ?
[19:56] <zuz> canen
[19:56] <BluesKaj> trying rekonq right now, the webkit browser for kde
[19:57] <Pliskin> BluesKaj : Erf, I can't stand the "KDE looks like windows speech"
[19:57] <BluesKaj> works fine
[19:57] <zuz> what kind of issues?  let me see if i can reproduce it here
[19:57] <jeansch> BluesKaj: rekonq is not a real project, you can try arora
[19:57] <Pliskin> jeansch : jaunty, with the kubuntu backports ppa
[19:57] <skolnek> thanks zuz
[19:57] <jeansch> Pliskin: and your plasmathing about network manager looks well, or just a two colors sort of cell phone ?
[19:58] <malik_> can any one tell me a totem movie player plugin which i can use to record an online audio stream to an mp3 file??
[19:58] <lancelot> herkese iyi kandiller
[19:58] <Pliskin> jeansch : I don't understand
[19:58] <BluesKaj> jeansch, I tried arora , prefer rekonq , it imported all my konqueror settings and it doesn't crash
[19:59] <christophe_> Anybody know how to assign a keyboard shortcut to "show desktop" I don't mean the plasma widget
[19:59] <Pliskin> you mean the green color in the sub titles ?
[19:59] <tkesler> how can I scan to see if a cd-writer is being recognized?
[19:59] <tkesler> k3b doesn't see it
[20:00] <BluesKaj> Pliskin, when i said i prefer kde cuz it looks like windows wasn't speech , it was merely a statement of preference
[20:00] <BluesKaj> wasn't a speech
[20:05] <surgy> my login resolution is too high for my monitor which only supports up to 800x600, i just instaleld it and when i switch to a ttyl login and type sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf the file is empty. also when i try "sudo xrandr --output default --mode 800x600" it says "cant open display" any help would be greatly appreciated
[20:08] <toby> I got past the "white screen problem" after updating to 4.3, but now my taskbar is missing. I don't really want to delete .kde, any other ideas?
[20:09] <tkesler> anyone?
[20:10] <surgy> isnt the start menu katapault?
[20:10] <surgy> ive asked a million times and looked for about 45 mins now
[20:11] <surgy> cant find a solution
[20:11] <surgy> to my prob
[20:11] <tkesler> is there a way query the ide to look for devices?
[20:11] <asraniel> hi, after updating to kde 4.3 i got a "new" network manager thing.. is this still the plasmoid? any information about this?
[20:11] <BluesKaj> lspci is dirty but it works
[20:11] <bdgraue> toby: delete .kde isnt nessesary i think, maybe delete some plasmarc in .kde/share/config (plasma-desktop applet and some like this )
[20:12] <surgy> BluesKaj, can you give me a hand bro?
[20:12] <bdgraue> surgy: startmenu is kickoff
[20:12] <surgy> bdgraue, my bad
[20:13] <surgy> my problem seams so simple..... yet no one can answer it
[20:14] <BluesKaj> surgy, you can try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and after setting it up do startx
[20:14] <Shura> Hi, I can't "automatically define date and time". I check it, it ask me my password, but when I come back, it's uncheck. Normal ?
[20:15] <toby> ls
[20:15] <toby> (sorry)
[20:17] <toby> bdgraue: Thanks, I moved .kde/share/config/plasm* elsewhere and logged out/in. All fixed.
[20:17] <SeanTater> I suspended a live cd (which worked fine), but then it locks the screen and expects a password? I tried just pressing enter but it doesn't work
[20:18] <bdgraue> toby: :)
[20:18] <surgy> BluesKaj, ok xorg isnt empty now, but there is still no default resolution under the "screen" section, can i just manually add one? and what should it look like?
[20:20] <BluesKaj> surgy, are you on jaunty ?
[20:20] <surgy> BluesKaj, yes sir
[20:20] <tkesler> blueskaj: lspci only lists the ide controller...help
[20:20] <BluesKaj> surgy, have you rebooted since you installed the new monitor ?
[20:23] <surgy> BluesKaj, its not a new monitor, i instaleld buntu with this monitor hooked up
[20:27] <BluesKaj> surgy, look in system settings /display ..are there any optional settings in the drop down ?
[20:33] <surgy> well i was having problems getting into x
[20:33] <surgy> but i think i might have fixed it by screwing up xorge and letting it reconfigure itself
[20:33] <surgy> sorry for the delays the comp is in the other side of the house
[20:34] <Pliskin> Riddell : the new KDE4 KNetwokManager (the systray app) works for me, but it has some annoying bugs (the duplicated entries in the list, the way it appears and disappears...etc, but it works \o/)
[20:36] <BluesKaj> surgy, jaunty depends heavvily on the HAL and graphics kernel modules more and more now.
[20:37] <surgy> BluesKaj, well me screwing up the xorge simply makes the comp ask me if i want to run in low graphics mode "just once" so i choose that edit my settings and then restart and the same thing happens, so i let it restore the xorg on its own and it doesnt appear to change anything....
[20:38] <surgy> i think it just might be the log in screen thats too high of a resolution
[20:39] <asraniel> Pliskin: any idea if this is still the same code as the plasmoid? it kind of looks that way, i can't figure out from where it's comming (how could i stop it for example?)
[20:40] <Pliskin> asraniel : I dont think so, accordding to JontheEchidna, it's a rewritten knetworkmanager (the one from kde3) for KDE4
[20:40] <BluesKaj> surgy, it's not like the old days where one could actually edit xorg.conf to use a certain res , those options are gone
[20:40] <Pliskin> it's an app they coded while they redo the plasmoid
[20:41] <Pliskin> the plasmoid is too often broken to use it
[20:41] <malik_> I can not login my yahoo account from any IM client like pidgin, kopete etc  why is it so
[20:41] <malik_> can anyone help me please ??
[20:43] <surgy> BluesKaj, then we have to assume buntu is not compatible with my hardware?
[20:43] <Pliskin> asraniel : the message on the plasmoid networkmanager hover "It"s higly unstable and will crash your desktop. Until further notice, please use KDE4 Knetworkmanager instead"
[20:43] <BluesKaj> surgy, it could be your graphics card driver too
[20:44] <BluesKaj> surgy, do you have a jaunty live cd ?
[20:44] <libervisco> HI
[20:44] <libervisco> Has anyone so far discovered a bug in latest KDE upgrade?
[20:45] <libervisco> The one where startkde is missing and kdm wont start it, nor GDM?
[20:45] <libervisco> the one where final release is worse than alpha because *it wont start* :P
[20:46] <libervisco> I ended up in LXDE instead KDE because of that :S
[20:46] <BluesKaj> libervisco, do a startkde in the terminal , see if you have a popup dialog
[20:47] <libervisco> well it's not installed
[20:47] <libervisco> but.. um.. ubuntu told me the package in which it should be
[20:47] <libervisco> apparently the upgrade somehow removed it and failed to replace it with a new one
[20:48] <BluesKaj> libervisco, well then you know what to do
[20:48]  * libervisco blushes
[20:48] <libervisco> yeah :D
[20:48] <libervisco> thanks
[20:48] <libervisco> brb..
[20:48]  * BluesKaj shrugs , np
[20:48] <surgy> BluesKaj, i fixed it
[20:49] <surgy> just added a subsection "SubSection "Display" with one entry "Modes 800x600"
[20:49] <BluesKaj> surgy, cool , can you share what you did , so we can adize others with the same prob
[20:49] <surgy> added that subsection under the section "Screens"
[20:49] <surgy> or rather in the screens section
[20:50] <BluesKaj> surgy , wow , glad to hear an edit actually works in xorg.conf :)
[20:50] <surgy> BluesKaj, yeah lol im old school so thats the fiorst place i look when it comes to graphicle issues
[20:51] <bigleon_> Hey there, I'm having issues getting a program to boot at startup. (preferbly I'd like it to boot at the login page) trying to get software x11vnc to boot
[20:52] <surgy> and to be honest this was a xubuntu problem, i just dont like those guys over there they are the most unhelpful people in the universe
[20:53] <bigleon_> I tried putting the command line in Xsetup and also making a link at the autostart folder... any help would be much apprecaited.
[20:55] <philena> Hey.. I have a network question?
[20:56] <surgy> !ask || philena
[20:56] <philena> sorry :P
[20:56] <surgy> thank you ubottu :)
[20:56] <bigleon_> :P
[20:56] <surgy> im glad some things like good ol ubottu never change
[20:57] <Maui_> hi all.. is it possible to install kde 4.3 on debian lenny or i will encour in problem with dependancies?
[20:57] <surgy> !autostart
[20:57] <bigleon_> I just started working on my new Kde server before my school year stats so i'm having all sorts of fun getting her set up
[20:57] <bigleon_> Well i was having issues in autostart i found the autostart function :)
[20:57] <BluesKaj> bigleon_, maybe this site can help http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/X11vnc
[20:57] <andreas_> hi all
[20:58] <philena> Ok.. I'm on my Kubuntu, and I have XP professional on the same wireless router.  If I want to access Microsoft programs in Kubuntu and vice versa, which is the best method?  Do I have to use VPN if the computers are right next to each other or what?
[20:58] <surgy> i think you can just right click/make link and then drag and drop that link into your .kde/autostart folder and you should be bueno
[20:58] <bigleon_> Bluekaj i'm at their Faq, they just lack Kde support.
[20:58] <philena>  samba seems to work just fine assessing my shared foldered.  But I want to be able to access OneNote too.
[20:59] <surgy> philena, i think your talking about sharing folders between the operating systems?
[20:59] <Maui_> ehm... another question: how can i upgrade to kde 4.3 from kde 4.2.2 in kubuntu? i've added the backport repo but both apt-get update and aptitude "fail"
[20:59] <bigleon_> oh crap i tottaly just removed my dashboard T_T
[20:59] <surgy> philena, i would suggest using a virtual machine such as virtualbox
[21:00] <cuznt> how shall you steer?
[21:00] <andreas_> I think I have a very basic problem ... I want to copy files from my windows-partition to ubuntu-drive, but it says "no permission"
[21:01] <surgy> andreas_, are you currently in windows or buntu?
[21:01] <andreas_> ubuntu
[21:01] <BluesKaj> bigleon_, in the contents box on the site check "Using wirh KDM"
[21:01] <philena> So I create a virtual windows machine for Kubuntu?
[21:01] <surgy> did you use a wubi installer?
[21:01] <surgy> philena, thats how i would do it, and then just reinstall my apps on my new os
[21:01] <bigleon__> I think i'm in here twice now
[21:02] <bigleon__> Bah this is what i get for not having use kubuntu for the last 2 years T_T
[21:02] <surgy> bigleon, shame on your resistance! :)
[21:02] <bigleon__> Blame a the school system >.>
[21:02] <philena> What if I want to assess the Kubuntu desktop with either my winXP desktop or Vista laptop?
[21:03] <bigleon__> College has 4 linux pc's campus wide...
[21:03] <surgy> well you can use vnc or a vm on those :)
[21:03] <philena> I think that option would work better, but I have cywin on my vista
[21:03] <surgy> bigleon i have that beat in my bedroom
[21:03] <andreas_> what is wubi installer? or was that one not for me? ;)
[21:04] <surgy> philena if you want 100% access to any of your computers on any of your networks then you cant beat vnc, plus it is completely portable.
[21:04] <philena> yea, did that krfb invitation.  But I don't know how to use the information
[21:04] <surgy> andreas_, wubi installer lets you install linux as a program loaded by windows
[21:04] <andreas_> no, I have installed ubuntu 9-04 from CD on a seperate drive
[21:04] <surgy> andreas_, it also shows up in your add/remove programs list and makes things 1000000 times easier
[21:05] <surgy> ok then you need to read up on ntfs drivers and what nots
[21:05] <surgy> !ntfs
[21:05] <philena> do I need to install vpn on my vista and xp?
[21:05] <andreas_> I can access the ntfs drive. I think the problem is that I don't have the rights on the destination folder
[21:05] <surgy> !vnc | philena
[21:06] <bigleon> Okay... this time no accidently closing everything
[21:06] <surgy> philena, use realvnc on windows and any of the million vnc client/server packs for buntu
[21:06] <bigleon> Before i get back to working on X11vnc ,  how do i get my task bar back at the bottem?
[21:06] <philena> ok
[21:07] <surgy> no  clue there big lol
[21:07] <surgy> !kickoff
[21:07] <surgy> maybe you need to restart kickoff
[21:07] <bigleon>  /cry
[21:08] <surgy> bigleon, try this command in a terminal "sudo reboot" lol
[21:08] <surgy> bigleon, its the first thing i try when things sudenly dissapeat
[21:08] <surgy> dissapear*
[21:08] <bigleon> well I just rebooted the whole system
[21:09] <bigleon> This widget system is new
[21:09] <bigleon> Take some time getting used to
[21:09] <bigleon> tried to close a program and killed my bar
[21:09] <bigleon> But rightclick add widget, task manager is what ya do in that case
[21:10] <bigleon> If someone could please scroll up and find that wiki link about x11vnc that would be awesome :)
[21:10] <andreas_> http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/X11vnc
[21:10] <andreas_> this one?
[21:10] <bigleon> Thank you.
[21:12] <surgy> so im trying to [pay back the community, i try to answer as many questions as i can after hastling everyone with my own questions
[21:12] <surgy> so if anyone needs me fire those questions!
[21:13] <andreas_> ok, I try to describe my problem again. I am on ubuntu, and need to copy files from windows. I can access the ntfs drive, and I have found the files there, but when I want to copy them I get the message that I have no permission for the destination folder on ubuntu
[21:13] <bigleon> *rolls* this wiki is confusing the hell out of me.
[21:13] <andreas_> the destination folder is owned by root
[21:14] <surgy> andreas_, right click on the file in ubuntu and look in permissions
[21:14] <andreas_> it says that the folder is owned by root, and that I don't have permission to write in it
[21:14] <surgy> andreas_, should be pretty self explainatory from the rightclick /permissions area
[21:15] <andreas_> yes, it says that I am not the owner ... but how do I become owner of that folder=
[21:15] <surgy> or you can go to a terminal and cd to the directory of the folder and user the command chmod +rw
[21:15] <andreas_> ?
[21:15] <surgy> sudo chmod +rw
[21:15] <BluesKaj> !ntfs-3g
[21:16] <surgy> andreas you are owner when signed in as root
[21:16] <andreas_> how do I do that? When I start ubuntu it logs me in automatically
[21:17] <surgy> andreas_, why not create a new folder in your home directory or desktop? then it will have the permisions automagicly
[21:17] <surgy> andreas_, you have some learning to do
[21:17] <surgy> !root | andreas
[21:17] <andreas_> yes, I know ... I am very new to the Linux-world :)
[21:18] <BluesKaj> andreas_, you don't usw a pw on the login page ?
[21:18] <surgy> andreas_, you have done well my padwan learner your path to greatness we will lead you.
[21:18] <andreas_> =)
[21:18] <andreas_> BluesKaj : no
[21:18] <BluesKaj> aha
[21:20] <bigleon> Hmmm BluesKaj, that wiki you linked me seems to be for a different ver of X11.
[21:24] <bigleon> okay I'm trying to set up a program with auto start. I'm in application tab for command shouldn't "x11vnc -forever -usepw -bg display :0" that work and i wouldn't need to put anything in "work path" ??
[21:26] <andreas_> ok, thanks !!! I've got it !!! :-)
[21:26] <surgy> well done young padwan
[21:26] <andreas_> ;)
[21:26] <surgy> careful for frustration a path to the darkside is
[21:27] <andreas_> I'm learning
[21:27] <bigleon> Or a stroke surgy...
[21:27] <surgy> bigleon, or worse....... MS: WINBLOWS!
[21:27] <andreas_> yes I know about frustration .. this is my I think 1000th try to Linux
[21:27] <bigleon> surgy, hey now Windows 7 has been a dream of what windows should be :)
[21:28] <surgy> bigleon
[21:28] <surgy> im going to keep pretending you didnt say that, cuase i thought we were cool
[21:28] <bigleon> To be a true fan of anything you must respect it's competitors.
[21:28] <MTGap> surgy your a crazy fanboy
[21:28] <surgy> meh?
[21:29] <MTGap> yes you..
[21:29] <surgy> i respect windows, i use it often, but to say it competes with buntu or linux in general is treason
[21:29] <MTGap> and that's what makes you a fanboy that crazy statement there...
[21:29] <bigleon> Agreed MTGap
[21:30] <surgy> MTGap, lol a fanboy eh? i'll take it as a compliment :)
[21:30] <genii> If you want to discuss this, #kubuntu-offtopic is probably a better place than here
[21:30] <surgy> genii, agreed appologies for my intrusion
[21:31] <andreas_> ok, I'm off again ... tx&cu
[21:32] <bigleon> Alright, here goes the big test... :) rebooting Kubuntu Brb to complain if it still doesn't work.
[21:36] <bigleon>  /cry I'm doing something wrong, not sure what...
[21:37] <bigleon>  / betrayed by spacebar... I think i got it now
[21:44] <gokhan> selam ubuntu kullanıcısıyım bana yardm edebilecek var mı
[21:44] <gokhan> ?
[21:45] <gokhan> sorun ekran
[21:45] <gokhan> ekran kartım kurulmamış ne yapmalıyım
[21:45] <gokhan> onboard ekranım
[21:45] <BluesKaj> !tr
[21:45] <gokhan> sis mirage 3
[21:53] <basy> Is there any GUI tool for database model creation for kubuntu?
[21:53] <phh> kexi can do the job iirc
[21:57] <MTGap> An irc question, how do you do the thing where you message only one person and it turns red
[21:58] <phh> /msg nickname message ?
[21:58] <MTGap> Well I've tried that and it opens a query
[22:01] <mizipzor> running a game in wine in fullscreen mode seriously distorts my taskbar, tray, clock and other stuff at the bottom of the screen... they are moved to a new order and resized, and open windows are no longer shown in the taskbar... what is the cause of this and how can it be fixed?
[22:03] <Varox> hi all!
[22:03] <Varox> did someone of you try to update to kde 4.3 today?
[22:04] <Varox> i got this error and really have no idea how to fix it: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1232503
[22:04] <phh> mizipzor: the game takes an other resolution than the current one
[22:04] <phh> and change the "whole" resolution
[22:04] <phh> the only way i know to "fix" that is to set the game to the same resolution
[22:04] <mizipzor> phh: and kde cant reset the resolution? or "change it again" so to speak?
[22:05] <mizipzor> phh: the game doesnt support that high resolution... its quite old... and running it in window mode makes it very hard to see stuff
[22:05] <phh> don't know
[22:05] <iceroot> !info kubuntu-desktop
[22:05] <iceroot> which kde-version is in the repos from jaunty?
[22:06] <mizipzor> phh: rebooting has no effect btw
[22:06] <mizipzor> just tried that out
[22:07] <iceroot> !info kde
[22:08] <Varox> iceroot: where you talking to me?
[22:08] <Varox> never mind
[22:09] <iceroot> Varox: no, i am talking with the bot, because noone here want to say which kde-version jaunty is using
[22:09] <Varox> yea, just got it (late, but got it)
[22:09] <Varox> iceroot:
[22:11] <Brad777> Hello I just need some really quick help... I sort of forgot to look up how to get back into kubuntu after installing windows BEFORE I installed it and I would like to get back into Kubuntu... I have a bootfile in my kubuntu partition I just need to know how to get grub back...
[22:12] <MTGap> I think you might be out of luck brad, windows messes up linux when your dual booting
[22:14] <gusttavo> hello,somebody form Brasil ??
[22:15] <gusttavo> sorry,from Brasil ??
[22:15] <phh> !br
[22:15] <lninjox> try grub loader
[22:15] <lninjox> or acronis boot manager
[22:16] <lninjox> always installed windows first then kub
[22:16] <lninjox> anyone know why i cant write to vista folder, using ntfs
[22:16] <lninjox> its mounted and i can read but cant write
[22:17] <lninjox> here is my commands
[22:18] <lninjox> sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/windows -o rw
[22:18] <Brad777> lninjox, well i didn't want to reinstall kubuntu lol
[22:19] <lninjox> install what you want i was telling you how i did it
[22:25] <MTGap> I know this is off topic but anyone else using Chromium and updated recently and noticed some guys head replaced the X close button
[22:31] <ubuntu> türk varmı
[22:35] <Think-Free> Hi ! I need a bash guru
[22:36] <Think-Free> Any body ?
[22:36] <xerosis> I'm running kubuntu jaunty with kde 4.3 from PPA and none of the logout/power buttons work, does anyone know where I could start to troubleshoot?
[22:37] <fernando_> hola
[22:39] <bdgraue> xerosis: did you alreaddy restart x or reboot after the update?
[22:39] <xerosis> bdgraue: yep
[22:39]  * bdgraue only had this problem before he restarted
[22:57] <mildner> does anybody know how to get kdetwitter?
[22:57] <mildner> thats a plasmoid for twitter
[22:58] <MTGap> yeah isn't it just the microblogging widget?
[23:13] <ghostcube> is there a way to get different backround images in kde 4.3.0
[23:22] <Nakkel> Im having a annoying problem with Kopete after upgrading to 4.3. The default shortcuts "Return" or "Enter" for sending message wont work anymore. I tried to look if there was any global shortcuts using ret/enter but found none so Im bit lost why wont they work. :/
[23:25] <roysunshine92> i have a problem with kde 4 shoutdown, it doesn't work because it isn't able to stop running programs i think.any help?
[23:25] <login__> oi
[23:26] <login__>  oi
[23:26] <login__> lol
[23:26] <roysunshine92> anyone?
[23:27] <Dragnslcr> Nakkel- what's your shortcut for "Send Message" in a chat window's Settings -> Configure Shortcuts ?
[23:28] <Nakkel> Dragnslcr: Return and enter
[23:29] <Dragnslcr> Nakkel- hm, I dunno then. I'm still on the last RC, but ctrl-return and alt-return have worked fine for me
[23:30] <Nakkel> Tried those too but didnt help :(
[23:30] <bigleon> Hey there, I'm attempting to set up a sharing network between my Desktop with external HD (OS:Kubuntu) and my Laptop (OS:Win7)
[23:30] <roysunshine92> i have a problem with kde 4 shoutdown, it doesn't work because it isn't able to stop running programs i think.any help?
[23:31] <bigleon> I'm pretty much stuck currently. Unable to get any flavor of samba to work that i've comeacross. I don't want to set up an FTP because I don't want to have to download files just so i access them on my lp (such as music or movies)
[23:33] <jm_> hey
[23:35] <arthur_> Hello?
[23:36] <roysunshine92> hi^^
[23:36] <arthur_> I'm fairly new to using IRC...anybody here?
[23:38] <arthur_> I have an ICOP eBox 4861 and was wondering if there might be any interest in "respinning" KUbuntu 9.04 to support that hardware?
[23:38] <bigleon> Bah still no luck on samba...
[23:41] <claydoh> arthur_: aren't via eden chips x86 compatible?
[23:41] <arthur_> supposed to be...but the video chip is not recognized properly by the Debian x.org installer database...
[23:43] <claydoh> its the (lack of) useable via chrome video drivers then
[23:43] <arthur_>  but version 8.04 works fine...why not 9.04?
[23:44] <claydoh> dunno, perhaps the drivers are not updated enough?
[23:45] <Zorael> Is there any way to get gtk2-engines-qtcurve.rc.sh run earlier? Input helpers (uim toolbars, scim-gtk-panel) seem to be run earlier
[23:45] <Zorael> (than the script, obviously)
[23:45] <arthur_> I think that by hand editting the xorg.conf file, it could be made to work, but that throws off the updating process and it really should be fixed at the Debian xorg database side...
[23:49] <darthanubis> how does one set individual wallpaper per desktop?
[23:52] <lninjox> what version
[23:52] <lninjox> need a list of channels
[23:52] <lninjox> anyone