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intellectronicawgrant: i've landed a fix for the empty subjects, should be on edge after the next daily rollout00:34
intellectronicaand the ui is also being worked on, should see some serious improvements in the next few days00:35
intellectronicacody-somerville: iirc there isn't because after that the plugin became part of the mozilla codebase00:36
cody-somervilleintellectronica, do I need to go through the same process to register enabled bugzilla instances?00:38
intellectronicacody-somerville: process? unless i'm forgetting something, the only thing that can be done on LP is resetting existing watches, to make sure they update again using the plugin, no?00:39
cody-somervilleThe launchpad bugzilla plugin allowed for comment sharing00:39
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mac9416Hello, on the Confirm your OpenPGP Key page I keep getting this error: "Launchpad could not verify your signature: (7, 9, 'No public key')"01:41
mac9416I have no idea what that means :-01:41
mac9416:-(01:41
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thumpermac9416: is your public key on a public keyserver?02:01
mac9416Yes, I sent it to keyserver.ubuntu.com02:01
MT-mac9416: did you add it to your profile?02:02
wgrantMake sure you signed the message with the right key.02:02
MT-probably a dumb question...02:02
mac9416I think it said so "A message has been sent to mac9416@keryxproject.org.           To confirm the key 4096R/F5F81AFB is yours,           follow the link inside.         "02:03
wgrantA lot of people end up signing it with the wrong key.02:03
mac9416I htink maybe that's what I'm doing.02:03
mac9416I'm not sure how to specify which key to sighn with, though,02:03
MT-wgrant: that's why I have one key for all 5 email accounts :P02:03
mac9416gpg --clearsign ~/clearsign apparently signs with the wrong key02:04
mac9416But I'm not sure how to specify which one to use02:04
wgrantmac9416: --default-key, I think.02:04
mac9416gpg --default-key <ID> ?02:05
mac9416mac9416@mac9416-laptop:~/devel$ gpg --default-key F5F81AFB/gpg: Go ahead and type your message ...02:05
mac9416:-P02:05
pooliethumper: is there a bug for the whitespace probelm or should i file one?02:12
pooliemac9416: -u isn't it?02:12
mac9416I just deleted one of the keys, so it doesn't matter now :-D02:13
poolieheh02:13
thumperpoolie: it is a tricky problem02:13
thumperpoolie: file a new one and I'll think about it02:13
poolieto decide whether to fix it, or to work out how to fix it?02:13
mac9416Hey, guys, it finally validated, though I'm not sure why :-)02:15
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thumperpoolie: yes :)02:34
pooliesnort, just noticed the pie chart again02:34
pooliethumper: it's bug 38256102:35
ubottuLaunchpad bug 382561 in launchpad-code "code review page breaks copy & paste" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/38256102:35
pooliei think you should bump it up, it's a pretty bad problem for reviewing python code02:35
thumperpoolie: I was going to move the diff rendering to be like loggerheads02:36
poolieto be ajaxy?02:36
thumperso no incrementing line numbers02:36
thumperno02:36
thumperjust how it shows diffs#02:37
pooliemm02:37
pooliecan you change it to just be a <pre> block with regular spaces?02:37
thumperbad idea?02:37
pooliei think that will unbreak copy & paste02:37
pooliei'll look02:37
thumperno02:37
thumperI don't think it will02:37
thumperpoolie: it has spaces02:38
thumperpoolie: if we want to keep line numbers, I have another idea though02:39
thumperI'll try it out later02:39
pooliei don't care about line numbers in the diff02:40
poolieif they were the line numbers in the *file* that would be a bit more interesting but it's still for me very meh compared to getting the indenting right02:40
thumperpoolie: well the indentation is right for the display02:41
thumperthe problems are pasting into the comment02:41
poolieright02:42
pooliebut that's a pretty common thing to do02:42
thumperit seems to be a problem with firefox, not what we display02:43
thumperthe spaces are there02:43
thumperbut cutting from firefox does something strange02:43
thumperI can't fix that :)02:43
* thumper tries Konq02:44
thumperhuh02:46
thumperwell whaddya know02:46
thumperKonq gets it right02:46
thumperfirefox stuffs it up02:46
pooliebtw i'm really liking the overall code review experience02:49
pooliei'm glad we started dogfooding02:49
thumperpoolie: nice03:13
thumperpoolie: I do want it slicker though03:13
thumperbut it is coming along03:13
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iantoI'm receiving timeout errors in launchpad:  (Error ID: OOPS-1313B588)05:16
ubottuhttps://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1313B58805:16
iantoWhen I try to load this page: https://launchpad.net/~locoteams05:17
iantoHappens on both edge and the standard server05:17
thumperianto: hmm, seems to be timing out getting the locations of the members05:56
thumperianto: I'll make sure it gets passed on05:57
iantothumper: OK thanks :-)05:57
mwhudson!!06:39
mwhudsonmischan06:40
MT- /help07:03
thekornhi, can anybody please explain to me why I get "You are not Allowed here" when I try to access: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas?name_filter=couchdb08:24
spmthekorn: one of the ppa's that comes up is private. my 2c guess is that's a rather spectacular bug. Can you pls lodge accordingly?08:31
thekornspm, ok, I'll file a bug, is soyuz the correct target for this report?08:34
spmthekorn: hmmm. not sure, file against launchpad would be my advice. it'll get sorted from there.08:34
thekornspm, ok, thank you08:34
pooliespm, bac, or someone - please approve the ~bzr-windows mailing list08:58
pooliebut if something's on fire it can wait.08:58
spmpoolie: approved08:59
pooliethanks dude08:59
pooliespm, do you know if there's a reason why lists need special approval?09:04
ballWouldn't it make sense, when I click on the 'Bugs' tab, for there to be a prominent list of bugs that I have filed?10:09
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dreamcat4Hi. A question about Personal Package Archives (PPA)11:37
dreamcat4I created one yesterday at https://launchpad.net/~dreamcat4/+archive/ppa11:37
dreamcat4And all i get is a message saying "This PPA does not contain any packages yet."11:37
bigjoolsdreamcat4: what were you expecting?11:38
noodles775It looks like the help link from there is not so helpful?11:38
noodles775ie. it doesn't help you upload packages which would be dreamcat4's next steps.11:39
wgrantI'm sure it used to.11:39
dreamcat4Well, it says in the documentation that I should wait for a couple of hours for the PPA's  Sugning Key to be generated.11:39
dreamcat4(Signing Key)11:39
wgranthttps://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA/Uploading it is now, a few pages along.11:39
bigjoolsThere's a link on how to upload packages11:39
dreamcat4Which will then be displayed on the page.11:39
dreamcat4That hasn't happened yet. The page could perhaps say "I'm still generating your signing key" of "not ready yet".11:40
wgrantnoodles775: I guess there are probably other upload instructions there that those without launchpad.Edit can't see.11:40
* wgrant forgets.11:40
* bigjools edits the wiki page to include a link to the uploading section11:41
dreamcat4This is, i DID upload some packages shortly after creating the PPA11:41
dreamcat4Upload seemed to be successful (no errors reported).11:41
bigjoolsdreamcat4: how long ago?11:41
noodles775wgrant: yep, so did I.11:41
bigjoolsdreamcat4: you should get an email confirming it was accepted11:41
dreamcat4About 16 hours11:41
dreamcat4No emails recieved11:42
bigjoolsok that means you've either not signed the upload, or signed it with a key that LP doesn't know aboutg11:42
noodles775bigjools: I just noticed the channel title: "PPA builders getting stuck"11:42
wgrantnoodles775: Can you confirm locally? My good laptop is flat and the power cord is in the office...11:42
* noodles775 checks the template.11:42
dreamcat4Personally I suspect that because of low entropy on the Virtual Machines, it's still generating the PGP Key.11:42
bigjoolsnoodles775: yes, it's an apt bug11:42
dreamcat4But i have no way to check up on that, do I?11:43
bigjoolsdreamcat4: yes, it can be slow sometimes, but 16 hours is plenty11:43
bigjoolsdreamcat4: it also doesn't generate a key until you upload your first package11:43
dreamcat4I did sign my upload, with a valid Key11:43
wgrantdreamcat4: the archive key is separate from upload acceptance, and is not generated in a VM.11:43
bigjoolsdreamcat4: well double check that you let LP know about your key and associated it with your LP account11:43
dreamcat4thanks11:44
bigjoolsdreamcat4: LP doesn't email when it doesn't know who the signer is, to prevent spamming the innocent11:44
dreamcat4Obvously this is the first time I have tried to upload packages11:44
noodles775wgrant: nope, it's the only link displayed when the PPA isn't active... the wiki must have been updated since then.11:44
bigjoolsdreamcat4: great!  let us help you through it11:44
wgrantnoodles775: Ew.11:45
dreamcat4thank you. I can go back to the Wiki Articles and double check my GPG  key is uploaded11:45
wgrantnoodles775: I guess that's what Archive Index 3.0 is for.11:45
noodles775Yup :) (although updating the wiki as bigjools did is a good intermediate :) ).11:46
* bigjools just saved the change11:46
dreamcat4Okay it appears I did upload mym gpg key to the ubuntu servers,11:51
dreamcat4but I didn't notice the step (in the wiki articles) about having to associate it to my LP account11:51
dreamcat4so I failed to enter the key into the dreamcat4's profile page11:52
dreamcat4Thank you bigjools11:52
bigjoolsdreamcat4: welcome11:52
dreamcat4I guess the page i was reading was this one: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto11:53
dreamcat4and it's just such a long article.11:54
wgrantThe new archive index should probably replace the upload instruction line with a key addition link if there are no keys.11:55
dreamcat4yeah that would be great, because there's no rejection email11:55
dreamcat4i'll excuse myself now, thank you all again.11:56
bigjoolsgood point, noodles775 can you put that in your PPA design changes please and file a bug about it12:01
* noodles775 creates bug12:02
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pan1nxis there a way to administer the launchpad.dev after installing it? some documentation?13:47
noodles775pan1nx: what exactly did you want to do?13:49
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pan1nxwell, I installed the launchpad on my desktop. playing with it. But I was wondering if there is some documentation about administering users, databases, projects, team13:50
pan1nxnoodles775 I am talking about the way to use the launchpad.dev not the launchpad that is online...13:51
noodles775pan1nx: well, it's a development environment, so there's plenty of docs on writing tests, and doing development, but not so much for running it standalone.13:51
pan1nxI can see that13:52
pan1nxbut there must be a way from the launchpad.net that can be used on this local copy13:53
pan1nxright?13:53
beunopan1nx, there's no deployment documentation, as that's not what we want to encourage13:54
pan1nxaha, ok...that makes sense :D13:55
pan1nxthanks beuno for sharing this info13:55
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ryanakcaIs there an email interface to the answer tracker?15:10
LarstiQryanakca: yes15:10
ryanakcaLarstiQ: Replying to an answer email should work?  I know of https://help.launchpad.net/Bugs/EmailInterface , but I can't seem to find the details to the answer tracker's interface15:11
LarstiQryanakca: replying to an answer email works15:12
LarstiQit's almost solely the way I interface with the answer tracker15:12
ryanakcaOK15:12
ryanakcathanks :)15:13
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ftacprov, wgrant: is it possible to kill the builds that have been running for more than 1 day? (bug 408001)... i386  83 builds waiting in queue16:33
ubottuLaunchpad bug 408001 in launchpad-buildd "Builders stuck when downloading lots of build-deps" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/40800116:33
SteveAkiko: hi!16:36
kikoSteveA!16:49
kikoSteveA, got the report to write up, just stuck with some trivialities but almost finished16:49
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cprovfta: we could kill them but the job will get stuck in some other build17:03
cprovfta: Adam is working on it, AFAIK, let me check.17:03
ftacprov, i just asked because it's blocking other builds17:04
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cprovfta: yes, yes, it was marked *critical* for that reason.17:05
ftaand people are starting to get angry about me ;)17:05
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SteveAkiko-fud: cool.  do you have time for a short phone call?17:29
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synicIs there a way to manually expire bugs that are inactive for a certain amount of time?  I'd like to expire a lot of the old bugs in our project18:17
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derycksynic, by manually expire, what do you mean?  Do you mean you want to set a group of bugs to Invalid faster than the 60 days used by the auto-expiring feature?18:45
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kfogelbac: any idea why the error at the end of this attempt to build and install launchpadlib?19:51
kfogelhttps://pastebin.canonical.com/20826/19:51
rockstarkfogel, you probably need to install lazr.restfulclient19:53
kfogelrockstar: check back in the transcript -- it tries to install  lazr.restfulclient itself!19:53
rockstarleonardr, any clue? ^^19:54
leonardrCHECKING19:56
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leonardrkfogel, i don't know what's causing that, but i'm actually about to get rid of that code19:59
leonardrso you might just wait a while and it might go away19:59
kfogelleonardr: so if I want to try writing API-using scripts right now, what's my best course?19:59
leonardrkfogel: is the launchpadlib in the python-launchpadlib package not working?20:00
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kfogelleonardr: didn't even try that, I was just using trunk.  I take it that was a bad idea? :-)20:00
leonardrnot a bad idea, but if you just want to write scirpts python-launchpadlib is better20:01
kfogelleonardr: so my usual philosophy for projects I'm involved with is to run trunk.  If I install python-launchpadlib now, and later you fix trunk, will The Right Thing happen if I then build and install trunk?20:01
kfogelI.e., it will shadow the packaged version?20:01
leonardrkfogel: yeah, it should20:02
kfogelleonardr: ok.  Hmmm.  So I installed python-launchpadlib, but it looks like maybe I'm paying for my habit of installing bzr from trunk?  see https://pastebin.canonical.com/20828/20:04
leonardrkfogel: whoa, yeah20:05
leonardrask around in #bzr maybe20:05
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backfogel: i just saw your question about lplib.  you got it answered?20:09
kfogelbac: it's exploded into a yak shaving festival involving multiple IRC channels, but yes, thanks.20:10
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bacumm, yaks20:14
krowQuestion... moving a mailing list to Launchpad...20:21
krowWho should I talk too?  (Last time I just askd statik and he made it happen)20:22
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bacleonardr: ^^20:28
leonardrkrow: you're not migrating the archives or anything, right, you just want the mailing list to happen on launchpad?20:32
leonardrkrow: you can register a team (https://edge.launchpad.net/people/+newteam) and then create a mailing list for it. once it's approved, the team members can subscribe20:36
POXplease, please, please implement a feature to unsubscribe from a bug, I created a patch that fixes #199014 in my package (pypar2) more than a year ago and I'm spammed by launchpad since then20:45
micahgPOX: you can unsubscribe from a bug on the bug page20:46
POXnot if subscribed it manually20:48
POXi.e. I'm a "bug contact" for pypar220:48
POXs/if subscribed/if you didn't subscribe/20:49
POXpypar2 is marked as "Fix released" since 2008-03 or so, I don't care about other packages or status changes20:51
POXgreat, yet another "Branch linked" email (/me unmarks "I want to receive these notifications by e-mail." checkbox in pypar2's bug page)20:58
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slaytonis there anyway to setup a ppa to _not_ build lpia builds?21:01
maxbslayton: Not the PPA, no, but a source package can specify which architectures it is to be built for21:06
slaytonmaxb, I'm guessing its possible to specify i386 and amd64 while excluding lpia21:06
maxbAlthough, hmm.21:11
maxbI have a feeling it'll still try to be built on lpia, because of a misfeature of the debian package format ensuring that you need to unpack the source package to tell whether it's supposed to build on a given architecture21:12
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kfogelI'm on https://help.launchpad.net/API/launchpadlib following the setup instructions, but got this error:21:15
kfogelhttps://pastebin.canonical.com/20829/21:15
kfogel(I have done 'sudo aptitude install python-launchpadlib' already)21:15
slaytonmaxb, hmm... oh well then I just won't worry about it21:15
kfogelLooks like I'm missing lazr.restfulclient... but then why did python-launchpadlib install successfully?21:15
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leonardrkfogel: python-launchpadlib is an old version of launchpadlib before we split most of the code out into lazr.restfulclient21:34
kfogelleonardr: thank you.  I kind of need to use launchpadlib; I guess I'm going to do hacks like the one jml just put on wiki page until this is all sorted out.  Is there a definite sorting-out under way, do you know?21:36
leonardrkfogel: yes, for anything you might consider a sorting-out, it is under way21:37
kfogelleonardr: :-)21:40
mac9416Hello, is it possible to withdraw a merge proposal?21:40
kfogelmac9416: can you hit the delete icon next to its title?21:41
kfogelmac9416: (is there one?)21:41
kfogelmac9416: which proposal?21:42
mac9416Um, I'll try and find that button :-P21:42
mac9416kfogel, https://code.launchpad.net/~mac9416/keryx/trunk/+merge/969121:46
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kfogelmac9416: I probably see different buttons than you see, but do you see any way to delete it?21:55
mac9416Got it. I edited the status to be "rejected." That got it. Thanks21:55
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jcastroI need to correct the URL of a code import, any ideas how to do that?22:35
jcastro<--- totally forgot and can't seem to find out how22:35
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krowleonardr: migrating the archives23:03
leonardrkrow: ah, in that case i suggest asking statik for help again. at least he should be able to point you in the right direction23:10
leonardrjcastro: is yours the pytrainer one?23:10
leonardryou should be able to edit it from here: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/pytrainer/mirror23:11
leonardrif not, ask a launchpad question with the details23:11
jcastroleonardr, nope I just wanted to change f-spot from the old svn import to a git one23:15
leonardrjcastro: unfortunately i have to run, maybe someone else can help you :(23:17
mwhudsonjcastro: just request a new import, we don't have a sensible way of converting between different import sources23:20
mwhudson(it's a hard problem)23:20
jcastromwhudson, ok that'll do, thanks for the help.23:25

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