| BUGabundo | this darn bug is still open? https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/363558 | 00:04 |
|---|---|---|
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 363558 in gnome-system-monitor "gnome-system-monitor renice causes close" [Low,Triaged] | 00:04 |
| BUGabundo | man, we are so NOT getting a good release this cycle | 00:04 |
| Twigathy | :S | 00:07 |
| Twigathy | wow | 00:08 |
| Twigathy | yep, I get that bug too | 00:08 |
| Twigathy | That's a bit...er....rubbish :/ | 00:08 |
| BUGabundo | hey Twigathy | 00:09 |
| Twigathy | heya | 00:09 |
| Twigathy | Can't say I use g-s-m too often, but for a regular desktop user wanting to fiddle priority... that bug is a bit of a showstopper | 00:10 |
| richardcavell | Hi, everyone. I had the networking problem yesterday. I can only use networking if I run sudo service apparmor stop. In my update manager, network-manager-gnome is being 'held back'. Can anyone explain this? | 00:13 |
| stas | i don't think that my bug is caused by openssh | 00:14 |
| BUGabundo | hey richardcavell | 00:14 |
| richardcavell | hey BUG | 00:14 |
| BUGabundo | richardcavell: let me guess: you got the new NM ? | 00:14 |
| richardcavell | yep | 00:14 |
| * BUGabundo blames asac | 00:15 | |
| BUGabundo | richardcavell: please hit TAB for autocompete | 00:15 |
| * stas gnight | 00:15 | |
| richardcavell | I downloaded the new network manager, and my networking didn't work any more. We were discussing it yesterday. Someone came up with sudo service apparmor stop as a way of getting networking working again. | 00:15 |
| richardcavell | So I did that, then did update/upgrade overnight while I slept. | 00:16 |
| richardcavell | Now my computer has updated a whole stack of things, but network-manager-gnome is being 'kept back' according to apt-get | 00:16 |
| richardcavell | and it's gray in update manager | 00:16 |
| douglasawh-work | richardcavell: any reason you don't use the -force (or whatever it is)? | 00:16 |
| richardcavell | douglasawh-work: is that what I should do? | 00:16 |
| scizzo- | force? | 00:16 |
| richardcavell | I was told that there would be an update to apparmor, not network-manager, to fix the situation | 00:17 |
| richardcavell | at the moment the only way I'm online right now is by stopping apparmor | 00:17 |
| scizzo- | richardcavell: can you check the changelog to see if a dep is removed from either of the packages that are not going to be installed? | 00:17 |
| scizzo- | richardcavell: that is either of the greyed out once? | 00:18 |
| richardcavell | scizzo-: um, how do I do that? | 00:18 |
| BUGabundo | douglasawh-work: don't force it!!!!! | 00:18 |
| connex | where is the menu.lst in grub 2? | 00:18 |
| BUGabundo | it will break depencies that SHOULD matche or NM won't work | 00:18 |
| BUGabundo | if it fails to get dependcies something is not building | 00:18 |
| yofel | !grub2 | connex | 00:18 |
| ubottu | connex: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager in Karmic. For more information on GRUB2 please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2 | 00:18 |
| BUGabundo | richardcavell: use aptitude safe-upgrade instead | 00:19 |
| BUGabundo | also try one of the NM PPAs | 00:19 |
| th1 | connex, its got grub.cfg instead | 00:19 |
| scizzo- | richardcavell: in a terminal without using anything else just type: apt-get -u dist-upgrade and check what lib comes up that is being removed....DO NOT REMOVE IT OR INSTALL ANYTHING | 00:19 |
| BUGabundo | we have 0.7.1, 0.7+ modem-manager and 0.8 | 00:19 |
| scizzo- | richardcavell: or follow BUGabundo's info | 00:19 |
| scizzo- | richardcavell: safer to use the one that BUGabundo said | 00:19 |
| richardcavell | BUGabundo: is network-manager up to 0.8 though | 00:20 |
| richardcavell | BUGabundo: last night it was 0.7.1-git | 00:20 |
| richardcavell | but I was told that asac was preparing a solution | 00:20 |
| BUGabundo | richardcavell: $ apt-cache policy network-manager | pastebinit http://paste.ubuntu.com/247572/ | 00:20 |
| douglasawh-work | richardcavell: actually, the dist-upgrade is how I ended up fixing one of these before I think | 00:20 |
| BUGabundo | Installed: 0.8~a~git.20090702t164632.9c8e600-0ubuntu1~nmt1 | 00:20 |
| BUGabundo | 0.7.1.git.5.272c6a626-0ubuntu1 0 | 00:21 |
| BUGabundo | so archive as .7.1 | 00:21 |
| BUGabundo | PPA 0.8 | 00:21 |
| BUGabundo | douglasawh-work: $ sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude safe-upgrade | 00:21 |
| BUGabundo | where do i know your nick from douglasawh-work? | 00:21 |
| connex | thanks, th1, yofel | 00:21 |
| * scizzo- is wondering what lib the old 0.7 net manager was dependent on... | 00:21 | |
| douglasawh-work | BUGabundo: well, I've been in here before | 00:21 |
| BUGabundo | identica maybe?? | 00:22 |
| douglasawh-work | yeah, but I'm daw there since pm whined about not being about to type douglasawh | 00:22 |
| BUGabundo | eeheeh | 00:23 |
| BUGabundo | I though I knew. welcome | 00:23 |
| richardcavell | BUGabundo: Okay, I'm currently doing apt-get update. I'll then do safe-upgrade and get back to you. | 00:24 |
| aboSamoor | kubuntu 4.3 still not in the repositories ? | 00:24 |
| BUGabundo | should be | 00:25 |
| scizzo- | aboSamoor: you mean KDE 4.3? | 00:25 |
| BUGabundo | humm | 00:25 |
| BUGabundo | maybe PPA for now | 00:25 |
| BUGabundo | them they will copy the packages | 00:25 |
| aboSamoor | scizzo-, yeah | 00:25 |
| aboSamoor | BUGabundo, which ppa ? | 00:26 |
| connex | I can't get sound and it tells me the output device is null | 00:26 |
| BUGabundo | kubuntu team maybe ? LOLOL | 00:26 |
| connex | gnome-settings-daemon | 00:27 |
| connex | Xlib: extension "Generic Event Extension" missing on display ":1000.0". | 00:27 |
| connex | how bad is it? | 00:27 |
| scizzo- | aboSamoor: not sure...like BUGabundo said...check kubuntu team | 00:28 |
| scizzo- | aboSamoor: I have only seen libs at that version from the repos...not sure the whole stuff is there yet | 00:28 |
| scizzo- | aboSamoor: or if it will be | 00:28 |
| th1 | connex, its normal if you're connecting to a remote desktop or something like that | 00:28 |
| connex | ok, | 00:29 |
| th1 | what's :1000.0 anyway | 00:29 |
| === Cuddles is now known as Fluffles | ||
| connex | what about the sound? | 00:29 |
| BUGabundo | if it is not | 00:29 |
| BUGabundo | give them a few hours | 00:29 |
| BUGabundo | they tend to work FAST | 00:29 |
| BUGabundo | but PPA should be updated | 00:29 |
| BUGabundo | connex: no idea | 00:29 |
| BUGabundo | file a bug | 00:29 |
| BUGabundo | don't get your hopes high. dtchen is traveling so he won't have time to look into it | 00:30 |
| aboSamoor | yeah, their backport ppa contains kde 4.3 but it is compiled against jaunty. so adding the ppa won't pull kde 4.3 | 00:30 |
| scizzo- | th1: echo $DISPLAY | 00:31 |
| scizzo- | th1: it is the display or the screen number... | 00:31 |
| BUGabundo | ah?? | 00:32 |
| BUGabundo | are you sure? | 00:32 |
| BUGabundo | they have a ppa for karmic | 00:32 |
| BUGabundo | aboSamoor: you must be looking in the wrong place | 00:32 |
| scizzo- | th1: as a example if you would have 2 Xorgs running on the same machine...one of them would be: :0.0 and the other would be something like :0.1 or the like....it just sets the number of the display... | 00:34 |
| scizzo- | th1: check with BASH and $DISPLAY information to find out more... | 00:34 |
| th1 | scizzo-, I know what it is | 00:40 |
| th1 | but what kind of display is :1000 | 00:40 |
| richardcavell | Guys I've run update-manager and there are two items that are greyed out. I ran sudo aptitude safe-upgrade and this is what I get: http://pastebin.com/f18e66375 | 00:56 |
| richardcavell | How do I get it to install the new network-manager-gnome? | 01:00 |
| * BUGabundo checks | 01:00 | |
| BUGabundo | richardcavell: pastebin apt-cache | 01:00 |
| BUGabundo | richardcavell: $ apt-cache policy network-manager | pastebinit | 01:01 |
| richardcavell | http://pastebin.com/f7f8f2235 | 01:01 |
| Sarvatt | woohoo i can tether with the broadcom propritary drivers, i guess it was something broken in b43 lately | 01:06 |
| Sarvatt | wlan1: No active IBSS STAs - trying to scan for other IBSS networks just pops up with b43, doesnt like the ad-hoc network with WEP | 01:07 |
| BUGabundo | could be worse Sarvatt | 01:08 |
| richardcavell | BUGabundo: any ideas? | 01:09 |
| BUGabundo | richardcavell: no | 01:09 |
| BUGabundo | no idea why you are hanging back | 01:10 |
| BUGabundo | can you pastebin modem manager too? | 01:10 |
| richardcavell | I just found out | 01:10 |
| richardcavell | I have to remove libmbca0 | 01:10 |
| richardcavell | gotta log out now. BRB | 01:10 |
| Sarvatt | why dont you dist-upgrade richardcavell? safe-upgrade is probably holding it back because mobile-broadband-provider-info is a new package? | 01:11 |
| BUGabundo | Sarvatt: he is gone | 01:11 |
| Sarvatt | ...and he left :D | 01:11 |
| BUGabundo | you really should enable parts | 01:11 |
| Sarvatt | i did, he parted the second i said it :D | 01:14 |
| bcurtiswx | the mobile-broadband package in the changelog says it breaks libmcba0, and synaptic wants to remove it... thats ok then.. right? | 01:14 |
| Sarvatt | ah that'd do it | 01:14 |
| Sarvatt | yeah | 01:14 |
| bcurtiswx | it being libmcba0 | 01:15 |
| richardcavell | BUGabundo: Okay I'm all updated now. All is well. | 01:15 |
| BUGabundo | YAY | 01:16 |
| BUGabundo | next time try aptitude force-upgrade | 01:16 |
| BUGabundo | to see what's left | 01:16 |
| BUGabundo | LOLOL | 01:16 |
| richardcavell | After what happened yesterday I don't think I'll be updating for a while | 01:17 |
| BUGabundo | WARNING: IT MAY BREAK YOUR LCD and make you cry like a baby | 01:17 |
| Sarvatt | really should dist-upgrade during development, its normal for packages to get obsoleted and get removed like that | 01:17 |
| * bcurtiswx mutes BUGabundo | 01:17 | |
| BUGabundo | richardcavell: worse! the more you update the less diff you may end up | 01:17 |
| BUGabundo | bcurtiswx: "the function you have selected has not implemeted yet. We are sorry" | 01:18 |
| BUGabundo | bcurtiswx: how are you ? | 01:18 |
| richardcavell | the only reason why I want Karmic is because of the newer Intel drivers anyway | 01:18 |
| bcurtiswx | sudo apt-get remove BUGabundo | 01:18 |
| richardcavell | I notice that Firefox 3.0.13 isn't in the repos yet. It was released yesterday. | 01:19 |
| bcurtiswx | i wish theyd finally make firefox 3.5 default | 01:19 |
| BUGabundo | $ apt-get remove #ubuntu+1, world, universe: y,N,WHAT? | 01:19 |
| bcurtiswx | more testers is a good thing | 01:19 |
| BUGabundo | richardcavell: it won't be | 01:19 |
| BUGabundo | we are going with 3.5 | 01:19 |
| bcurtiswx | like actually do it in the repos | 01:20 |
| BUGabundo | it was supposed to be TODAY on ppa security for testing | 01:20 |
| BUGabundo | if it works, archives get 3.5 default | 01:20 |
| richardcavell | I prefer 3.0 | 01:20 |
| bcurtiswx | whats so special about 3.5 anyways? | 01:21 |
| SeveredCross | Better JavaScript engine, private browsing, supposedly svelter memory usage. | 01:22 |
| BUGabundo | richardcavell: why??? | 01:24 |
| BUGabundo | its sooo slow | 01:24 |
| BUGabundo | and 3.6 is even faster | 01:24 |
| BUGabundo | and much less mem | 01:24 |
| BUGabundo | $ top | grep fox | 01:24 |
| BUGabundo | 23299 bugabund 20 0 749m 225m 30m S 1 5.7 22:42.21 firefox-3.6 | 01:24 |
| richardcavell | that is actually your username? | 01:25 |
| BUGabundo | no | 01:25 |
| BUGabundo | its bugabudno | 01:25 |
| BUGabundo | *bugabundo | 01:25 |
| BUGabundo | top crops it | 01:25 |
| richardcavell | Okay well I'm not using Update Manager for another month | 01:27 |
| BUGabundo | :) | 01:30 |
| hggdh | makes sense | 01:34 |
| * BUGabundo loves to tell devs about bugs, regression, and watch them say its not their fault | 01:34 | |
| BUGabundo | https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=508387 | 01:35 |
| ubottu | Mozilla bug 508387 in General "zoom settings not stored" [Minor,Resolved: invalid] | 01:35 |
| * QPrime reads through the backlog and discovers that is IS possible to have a bigger ego than bjsnider... BUGabundo, you WIN! ;) | 01:48 | |
| BUGabundo | hey | 01:50 |
| BUGabundo | at least I'm good at something other then denting and filing bugs | 01:51 |
| BUGabundo | soooooooo | 01:51 |
| QPrime | *grin* | 01:51 |
| BUGabundo | we have a new patch for multisearch | 01:51 |
| BUGabundo | I wonder who is going to enable it back and test | 01:51 |
| BUGabundo | LOLOL | 01:51 |
| DanaG | Not I... I've actually dpkg-diverted the thing to get rid of it. | 01:53 |
| virtuald | i hope no one who uses the 64-bit flash player missed this: http://www.adobe.com/support/security/bulletins/apsb09-10.html (or anyone who didn't install through apt) | 01:54 |
| DanaG | Oh, and "multisearch" is a misnomer. | 01:54 |
| DanaG | if anything... it's an anti-multisearch. | 01:54 |
| DanaG | Google has multiple search types..... "multisearch" removes them! | 01:54 |
| DanaG | Bwahahaha. | 01:54 |
| BUGabundo | virtuald: already closed all my browsers | 01:55 |
| BUGabundo | what's that link about? | 01:55 |
| BUGabundo | I have flash 64bits , the new one for a few days | 01:55 |
| BUGabundo | sound is a total mess on the new flash | 01:56 |
| virtuald | bugabundo: then you have the newest | 01:56 |
| virtuald | yeah sound dies for me | 01:56 |
| BUGabundo | ok | 01:57 |
| * DanaG sticks to nspluginwrapp'd 32-bit one. | 01:57 | |
| BUGabundo | err | 01:57 |
| BUGabundo | that's ugly | 01:57 |
| === TwoToneSpirit is now known as jMyles | ||
| virtuald | i can't find the SRU | 01:58 |
| DanaG | ... but it lets you killall -9 npviewer.bin! | 01:58 |
| * BUGabundo $ mv /home/BUGabundo /dev/bed ; $ echo process delayed. HURRY UP | 01:58 | |
| DanaG | Can't do that with bare flashplugin. | 01:59 |
| virtuald | o.o | 01:59 |
| DanaG | I was browsing online, and something started hammering my CPU.... and I realized that, oh, it's Flash being sucky, as usual. | 01:59 |
| * DanaG hits it with SIGKILL | 01:59 | |
| BUGabundo | or JS on GMail :( | 01:59 |
| DanaG | Aah, much better. | 01:59 |
| * DanaG uses gmail via imap. | 01:59 | |
| BUGabundo | dIMAP here | 01:59 |
| BUGabundo | NOW BED | 02:00 |
| BUGabundo | bye | 02:00 |
| DanaG | D-imap? | 02:00 |
| DanaG | or was that a typo? | 02:00 |
| DanaG | Grr: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-desktop/2009-August/002183.html | 02:00 |
| virtuald | dimap? | 02:01 |
| virtuald | disconnected imap | 02:01 |
| DanaG | ah. | 02:02 |
| DanaG | Something the battstat applet gives, that g-p-m does not give: accurate power usage info. | 02:02 |
| DanaG | Or rather, directly read from battery -- so it seems more correct than g-p-m's estimates. | 02:02 |
| virtuald | o.o | 02:02 |
| DanaG | And it shows percentage of charge at a glance. | 02:03 |
| DanaG | Can't do that with gnome-power-manager. | 02:03 |
| virtuald | i don't use batteries - does g-p-m have some heuristic? | 02:03 |
| DanaG | Yeah. It profiles the battery over time. | 02:04 |
| virtuald | ok | 02:04 |
| DanaG | But in my case, it underestimates the accuracy of my battery's capacity indications. | 02:04 |
| DanaG | Says it's 0% accurate when below 50% battery, when it's really just fine. | 02:04 |
| virtuald | did you report it? | 02:06 |
| DanaG | Hmm, I've usually just ignored it. | 02:06 |
| virtuald | ok | 02:06 |
| DanaG | Oh yeah, and battstat applet shows the time right in the panel. | 02:06 |
| DanaG | g-p-m just shows this vague sort of ballpark-figure percentage thingy, via icon changes. | 02:07 |
| DanaG | 0, 20, 40, 60, 80, 100. | 02:07 |
| bjsnider | QPrime, what are you talking about? | 02:11 |
| DanaG | hah, and the mouse battery thingy has only 0, 60, and 100. | 02:18 |
| Sarvatt | hmm, i cant even add the battery charge monitor applet :( | 02:18 |
| DanaG | You probably already have the update installed. | 02:19 |
| Sarvatt | is it from the battery-stats package DanaG? | 02:20 |
| DanaG | no, it's from the gnome-applets package. | 02:20 |
| Sarvatt | when i try to add Battery Charge Monitor (Deprecated) it runs /usr/lib/gnome-applets/null_applet --oaf-activate-iid=OAFIID:GNOME_NullAppl | 02:20 |
| DanaG | http://battstat.sourceforge.net/ | 02:20 |
| Sarvatt | devicekit-power is all screwed up for all of my laptops, it thinks its fully charged when i unplug no matter what | 02:21 |
| DanaG | Note the nicer thing: one icon for power state, one icon for percent charge. | 02:21 |
| DanaG | Though oddly, the one in gnome is not exactly the same as this one here. | 02:21 |
| Sarvatt | i didnt like the old one at all, preferred g-p-m back when it worked | 02:22 |
| Sarvatt | but if it actually works i'll gladly use it (not that i can for some reason) | 02:22 |
| DanaG | because... it's been removed! | 02:22 |
| Sarvatt | i've just been using a bash alias to cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT1/state :( | 02:23 |
| Sarvatt | wonder if it'd work right if i rebuilt d-k-p and g-p-m with hal support | 02:24 |
| Sarvatt | just read that you have problems with it underestimating capacity, have you tried changing the gconf settings for it? i saw a bunch that change how it determines that | 02:26 |
| DanaG | It also underestimates accuracy. | 02:27 |
| Sarvatt | like in /apps/gnome-power-manager/general/ | 02:27 |
| DanaG | Gnome devs at work: notice how much more configurable the battstat-applet used to be. | 02:27 |
| DanaG | Now there's just layout options. | 02:27 |
| Sarvatt | maybe try disabling /apps/gnome-power-manager/general/use_profile_time so it can relearn it or something I was thinking | 02:32 |
| DanaG | odd... compiz's scale "close window" feature on middle button... only closes ONE window. you have to move the mouse a bit before it'll highlight the next window to move under the mouse. | 02:32 |
| DanaG | So, I can sit there hitting my middle button to close window, over and over.... and it ignores me. | 02:33 |
| Sarvatt | http://sarvatt.com/downloads/gpm.txt thats what i get, i'm sitting here on battery power and it thinks its fully charged | 02:35 |
| DanaG | hmm, does it ever give updates at all? | 02:36 |
| DanaG | I normally see multiple of the battery-info thingies, as it reports changes. | 02:36 |
| Sarvatt | nope it doesnt give updates until i plug in again | 02:37 |
| Sarvatt | ohhh interesting | 02:37 |
| Sarvatt | i killed devkit-power-daemon and restarted it then restarted g-p-m and its right | 02:37 |
| Sarvatt | wonder if it has something to do with it thinking the lid is always closed | 02:38 |
| Sarvatt | its even decreasing, didnt just load the right values and die there or anything | 02:40 |
| FloridaGuy | from 9.04 to 9.10...what would be better or faster...my netinstall cd...or upgrade | 02:42 |
| Sarvatt | do you want to change anything like switching to ext4? | 02:43 |
| Sarvatt | lol! screen just blanked, maybe the reason I havent been having this problem lately is because g-p-m hasnt been working | 02:44 |
| FloridaGuy | .... /boot..../...../home already ext4 and runing grub2 | 02:44 |
| virtuald | gpm is a console mouse daemon so it did confuse me a bit before as i don't have a laptop | 02:45 |
| Sarvatt | you'll want to make sure you reinstall grub2 to the mbr after in any case, jaunty's cant handle some of the options the one in karmic uses | 02:45 |
| virtuald | i mean you calling gnome-power-manager gpm | 02:45 |
| Sarvatt | we're talking about gnome-power-manager, sorry about that | 02:45 |
| virtuald | <: | 02:46 |
| virtuald | no problem | 02:46 |
| FloridaGuy | wouldent upgradeing do all that | 02:46 |
| Sarvatt | its not for alot of people, dunno why | 02:46 |
| FloridaGuy | sence im alrady useing grub2 | 02:46 |
| Sarvatt | its upgrading grub2 on the system but not installing the updated grub2 to the mbr | 02:47 |
| Sarvatt | if you get errors about --no-floppy just sudo grub-install /dev/whatever | 02:47 |
| FloridaGuy | i dont have a floppy so dont have to worry about that | 02:48 |
| zaccour | how is 3 alpha? | 02:48 |
| zaccour | is it faster than the current? | 02:48 |
| zaccour | huh? | 02:49 |
| DanaG | ughm stupid youtube. | 02:49 |
| DanaG | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKcLp33QgFg&feature=related | 02:49 |
| DanaG | Try clicking the seek bar... it ignores me. | 02:49 |
| DanaG | Same for all the other buttons. | 02:49 |
| zaccour | how is the alpha 3? | 02:50 |
| zaccour | should i upgrade now? | 02:50 |
| hggdh | zaccour, it is always a bet. For me, with rare exceptions (like this morning) it has been rather stable for a development series | 02:51 |
| hggdh | in other words: no issue I could not get myself out | 02:51 |
| zaccour | whats the default theme look like? | 02:51 |
| FloridaGuy | August 13th...alpha3 | 02:52 |
| FloridaGuy | alpha4 | 02:52 |
| hggdh | *that*, I do not know... don't use it | 02:52 |
| FloridaGuy | looks just like 9.04 | 02:52 |
| FloridaGuy | im going to do a install from the netinstall cd..want to use a different mirror then they have on the install disk.....would this be right..... ftp://carroll.cac.psu.edu/pub/linux/distributions/ubuntu/dists/karmic/ | 02:55 |
| hggdh | as long as the mirror is up-to-date, no problems | 02:55 |
| FloridaGuy | as far i know....i install the kernel 2.26.31.5 on 9.04....just to see what it would do on there | 02:56 |
| FloridaGuy | worked | 02:56 |
| hggdh | so your machine supports the kernel. Good. Now, you can either bite the bullet, and upgrade, or try to run a liveCD and see what happens | 02:58 |
| FloridaGuy | i dont even download the ubuntu live cd's anymore...for some reason with ubuntu the only installs that will install for me is the netinstall | 02:59 |
| hggdh | for me, I have always installed with the alternate CD -- I use LVM, and multiple partitions on all my machines, and the liveCD did not support it (don't know nowadays, though) | 03:00 |
| Sarvatt | ohh good info on the g-p-m idle session problem here -- http://blogs.gnome.org/hughsie/2009/07/30/accidental-blanking-and-gnome-power-manager/ | 03:01 |
| FloridaGuy | had 9.10 on the system the other day....could get my usb stick working....then i did a mount -t vfat /dev/sdf1 /media/usb...got it mounted but wasent able to write to it | 03:01 |
| Sarvatt | FloridaGuy: yeah you need some extra options for vfat usually, doing it through nautilus or whatever would add those. try mount -t vfat -o uid=1000,umask=077,utf8,shortname=mixed /dev/sdf1 /media/usb | 03:10 |
| Sarvatt | your user probably didnt have permission to write to it | 03:11 |
| oldude67 | just to let you all know i did the retard update today and lost my internet..had to spend most of the day fixing my mess up..( | 03:19 |
| oldude67 | so now i have the little icon down on the task bar telling me that the network manager is fubarred right now..ugh. | 03:19 |
| oldude67 | ugh be back in an hour or so cause i didnt set up my full set of hard drives..it used the small one instead. | 03:21 |
| Sarvatt | whats wrong with network manager for people? | 03:23 |
| Sarvatt | he wasnt the first i've seen say that but i have no problems with the latest one | 03:23 |
| DanaG | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKcLp33QgFg&feature=related | 03:24 |
| DanaG | why is it that people always feel the need to type........their.............demo...........text..........annoyingly..........slowly............ | 03:24 |
| DanaG | instead of just having it already typed in ahead of time? | 03:24 |
| DanaG | oh, and flash seems to be ignoring mouse clicks. | 03:25 |
| yoasif | anyone seeing a gdm bug where as soon as you select a user and the login box gets smaller, the space formerly occupied by the box becomes black? | 04:54 |
| DanaG | yeah, happens to me. | 04:54 |
| yoasif | has that been reported? | 04:55 |
| virtuald | yes | 04:55 |
| yoasif | i think this is it | 04:55 |
| yoasif | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/+source/gtk+2.0/+bug/405392 | 04:55 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 405392 in gtk+2.0 "background not redrawn when GDM main window changes size" [Low,Triaged] | 04:55 |
| DanaG | har: http://xkcd.com/ | 05:19 |
| DanaG | Unfortunately, Adobe is the one to blame here. | 05:20 |
| akio | yep | 05:20 |
| akio | I want smooth flash | 05:20 |
| akio | html 5 baby | 05:21 |
| DanaG | I want non-cpu-devouring, non-crashing Flash. | 05:21 |
| akio | you save the chrome experiments? | 05:21 |
| DanaG | I still like nspluginwrapper, because it lets me nuke flash objects very quickly: | 05:21 |
| akio | saw* | 05:21 |
| DanaG | woot: killall -9 npviewer.bin | 05:22 |
| akio | I hope flash becomes obsolete | 05:23 |
| DanaG | Me too. | 05:25 |
| yoasif | i hope canvas + svg + js kills it | 05:26 |
| yoasif | and <video> | 05:26 |
| akio | that is html 5 no? | 05:27 |
| DanaG | handy thing I did with my gdm: enabled the volume-control plugin. | 05:28 |
| DanaG | So now my volume slider thingy works there. | 05:28 |
| bjsnider | <video> will not kill flash without more codec support and more browser support | 05:54 |
| DanaG | grr, screen randomly blanked. | 06:40 |
| pace_t_zulu | anyone else having problems with pulse audio? | 06:53 |
| kklimonda | no ;) | 06:54 |
| kklimonda | seriously, works fine here :) | 06:54 |
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| pace_t_zulu | kklimonda: yeah, it seems as if it is an issue in pulseaudio's interaction with ff3.5 | 07:10 |
| DanaG | PA works fine for me, too. | 07:11 |
| kklimonda | pace_t_zulu: works fine with ff3.5 | 07:11 |
| pace_t_zulu | DanaG, well if it works for you it must be ok ;) | 07:11 |
| DanaG | I use the 32-bit Flash. | 07:11 |
| pace_t_zulu | kklimonda: i'll look into it further before i bring it up again | 07:12 |
| DanaG | npviewer.bin is nice... it crashes when Flash fails, instead of letting Flash take down Firefox itself. | 07:12 |
| DanaG | =þ | 07:12 |
| kklimonda | DanaG: well, the question remains when have you last seen crashing flash plugin ;) | 07:12 |
| DanaG | All the time. | 07:13 |
| DanaG | Or rather | 07:13 |
| DanaG | I see it hammer the CPU... so I kill it. | 07:13 |
| DanaG | With nspluginwrapper, you can do that. | 07:13 |
| DanaG | killall -9 npviewer.bin. bye bye, flash cpu usage! | 07:13 |
| pace_t_zulu | i'm having trouble with youtube videos... | 07:14 |
| pace_t_zulu | hmm | 07:14 |
| DanaG | yeah, they don't respond correctly to clicking! | 07:14 |
| DanaG | wtf... my panel applet shows my audio muted... | 07:14 |
| DanaG | I uncheck "mute" -- it stays muted (checked)! | 07:14 |
| DanaG | Oh, it's that stupid "Minimum volume is the same thing as mute" idea. | 07:15 |
| DanaG | NO IT'S NOT! YOU'RE WRONG, GNOME! | 07:15 |
| DanaG | =þ | 07:15 |
| DanaG | If I uncheck "mute" and it stays muted.... that's broken. No matter how you slice it. | 07:15 |
| pace_t_zulu | yea youtube videos fastforward | 07:17 |
| pace_t_zulu | it's lame | 07:17 |
| kklimonda | I hate that totem is intercepting all media keys.. | 07:17 |
| kklimonda | what's really funny is the fact that it's not even running anymore | 07:18 |
| pierce | anyone know why when I open new tabs in firefox, I always get redirected to the ubuntu version of google? same with when I use the firefox search bar | 08:00 |
| pierce | I tried disabling the ubuntu firefox plugin, and the ubuntu google page is not my home page, so I don't know what the deal is | 08:01 |
| soc1 | hi | 08:02 |
| soc1 | nautilus is segfaulting here ... | 08:02 |
| soc1 | any bug report? | 08:02 |
| nhasian | pierce, I'd like to know how to change the default page that opens with new tabs... | 08:18 |
| pierce | nhasian: what do you see when opening new tabs? | 08:24 |
| nhasian | i'm running firefox-3.5 and it always opens up the ubuntu-google page. i'd rather it open www.google.com/ig | 08:24 |
| floating | be brave and use chromium browser \o/ | 08:24 |
| nhasian | chromium doesnt yet have flash for 64 bit | 08:25 |
| floating | oh | 08:25 |
| pierce | I need the adblock and noscript :-/ | 08:25 |
| floating | i have an adblock on chromium | 08:25 |
| floating | adsweep or such, is not as good as firefoxs adblock+ though | 08:25 |
| nhasian | dangit google, get on the ball. where did all my investments in GOOG go? | 08:25 |
| * floating goes to see whats noscript | 08:26 | |
| pierce | noscript is amazing, everyone should use it | 08:26 |
| nhasian | pierce, whats it for? | 08:27 |
| floating | especially me, because with my poor intel grapchic controller, the flash on websites tend to harass my cpu | 08:27 |
| pierce | started out as a way to control what domains you want to be able to execute javascript in your browser, but it has a ton more features now | 08:27 |
| floating | but i guess i manage without, since i'm not gonna run the heavyish firefox except for some debugging | 08:28 |
| pierce | noscript now has very good protection against most forms of xss and crsf attacks | 08:29 |
| pierce | in general, it gives you much more control about security | 08:29 |
| pierce | it can also do things like https enforcement, and proper handling of files (so attackers can't hide executables in images etc) | 08:30 |
| pierce | but that really doesn't have much to do with karmic :-) | 08:31 |
| pierce | I was told to come here and ask about why ubuntu has taken over many of my firefox options, since people in the normal ubuntu channel didn't want to tell me | 08:31 |
| nhasian | hackers can hide executables in images? since when? | 08:31 |
| pierce | about a year ago at blackhat they talked about the gifar concept | 08:33 |
| Boohbah | pierce: yeah, what software do you have that executes images? | 08:33 |
| pierce | http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=1619 | 08:33 |
| nhasian | pierce, if you dont want firefox to be customized for ubuntu then just uninstall firefox-3.0-branding | 08:33 |
| pierce | there are basic protections in place that block the original attack, but the problem is far from being completely solved | 08:33 |
| Boohbah | pierce: notice the part about Java | 08:34 |
| pierce | I never installed firefox branding.. I didn't even know I had done that | 08:34 |
| pierce | Boohbah: do you think java is pretend so you don't need to worry about it? | 08:34 |
| pierce | dammit, removing the branding removed firefox | 08:36 |
| pierce | The following packages will be REMOVED: firefox-3.5 firefox-3.5-branding | 08:37 |
| Boohbah | pierce: no, i'm saying you only need to worry about executable code hidden in image files when you are running java, and my browser usually pops up a window asking me to confirm that i want to run java | 08:38 |
| nhasian | cant you install firefox without the branding? | 08:38 |
| nhasian | if it wont let you do it from the ubuntu repo, i'm sure you can do it from the mozilla ppa | 08:38 |
| pierce | nhasian: I see nothing that would let me do that apt-get install firefox pulls in branding, and apt-get remove branding removes firefox | 08:39 |
| pierce | Boohbah: it only asks your permission when it thinks it's loading a jar file, not when your browser is loading an image | 08:40 |
| pierce | that's the problem | 08:41 |
| nhasian | pierce, try installing the firefox from here instead: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-security/+archive/ppa | 08:42 |
| nhasian | hang on i think this is more current: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa | 08:43 |
| pierce | not really sure I need to run the most recent version of firefox possible :-/ I just want to get my normal search results back | 08:45 |
| pierce | and the big orange ubuntu logo every time I make a new tab is annoying | 08:46 |
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| === yacc_ is now known as yacc | ||
| mac_v | anyone having problems with the latest updates? | 11:13 |
| oldude67 | g/morning all | 11:19 |
| mac_v | oldude67: heya.... what where the problems with the latest network manager updates? any wireless problems? | 11:21 |
| oldude67 | idk about wireless as im on a hard line, but the manager itself is fubarred. | 11:22 |
| oldude67 | icon in task bar says its highly unstable and will cause your desktop to crash, and it sure did. | 11:22 |
| mac_v | so its better to delay the network manager updates? | 11:23 |
| oldude67 | i could see my eth0 card and i could modprobe it , but it wouldnt work no matter what i did. | 11:23 |
| oldude67 | yes i would say so.i am | 11:23 |
| mac_v | i'm using wireless and surely i dont want to loose connection :) | 11:24 |
| oldude67 | i couldnt even get a google connect..so i was lost and i just said the heck with it and started over..didnt have anything important on here yet to lose..thank god. | 11:24 |
| oldude67 | but i was being impatient and tried another one of those partial updates and i really know better but...duh..did it anyways. | 11:26 |
| oldude67 | although after all of this im getting good at fixing the grub for my intel video..lmao | 11:26 |
| loonyphoenix | my notify-osd stopped working | 11:33 |
| loonyphoenix | how do I restart it? | 11:33 |
| loonyphoenix | nevermind | 11:38 |
| gnomefreak | what the net connection bug fixed? | 11:39 |
| loonyphoenix | btw, what's the holdup updating firefox? why is karmic still running 3.0? | 11:40 |
| gnomefreak | loonyphoenix: 3.5 is going to be a little while to become default | 11:41 |
| oldude67 | gnomefreak, not here it isnt. | 11:41 |
| loonyphoenix | what depends on firefox anyway? | 11:42 |
| oldude67 | im using the kde network manager right now with an icon that says dont use the other it may crash your desktop. | 11:42 |
| gnomefreak | oldude67: you shouldnt have 3.5 as default yet | 11:42 |
| gnomefreak | oh | 11:42 |
| oldude67 | yeah i was talking about network manager sorry. | 11:42 |
| oldude67 | and i dont. | 11:42 |
| loonyphoenix | I understand reluctance at upgrading core components, but Firefox? | 11:42 |
| gnomefreak | loonyphoenix: its not that so much that is holding it up its more of xulrunner holding it up | 11:42 |
| loonyphoenix | what is xulrunner used for? | 11:43 |
| gnomefreak | loonyphoenix: it will be done soon (before next release) | 11:43 |
| gnomefreak | loonyphoenix: alot of apps have moved to depend on it | 11:43 |
| oldude67 | was going to say its going to have to be done soon as things are going to be put on freeze before long i would think. | 11:43 |
| gnomefreak | so you can remove firefox without having the whole system be removed (done in jaunty) | 11:44 |
| gnomefreak | oldude67: it will, we are working on it. one major factor is do we remove xul.....1.9.0 and ff3.0 from repos all together | 11:44 |
| oldude67 | ah i see, you know you will have die hards that will have a fit if you get rid of it all together. | 11:45 |
| gnomefreak | other things have kept me busy the past coupleof months but i will know when it happens before most | 11:45 |
| gnomefreak | oldude67: i know hence the major facktor | 11:46 |
| gnomefreak | ignore the typos its way too early | 11:46 |
| oldude67 | i hear ya..lol | 11:46 |
| gnomefreak | asac is working on it with a couple of other devs | 11:47 |
| gnomefreak | be back | 11:48 |
| soc1 | nautilus is segfaulting here ... | 11:48 |
| soc1 | any bug report? | 11:48 |
| oldude67 | soc1, i dont know if there is a bug report or not but i know there have been several people in here complaining about it. | 11:49 |
| soc1 | mh ok | 11:50 |
| soc1 | oldude67: looks really weird when the panel is filling up | 11:50 |
| soc1 | because it tries to restart nautilus everytime it segfaults ... | 11:50 |
| oldude67 | well dont know about weird but a pain in the arse sounds more like it. | 11:51 |
| soc1 | right :-) | 11:51 |
| oldude67 | is nautilus a file manager like dolphin i forget? | 11:52 |
| Mathematician | oldude67: yeah, dolphin is a file manager | 11:55 |
| oldude67 | yeah i knew that was wondering about nautilus im googling now to see..lol im old so i forget things easy..lmao | 11:56 |
| gnomefreak | oldude67: apt-cache show nautilus show give you everything | 12:01 |
| oldude67 | thats cool google had a ton of crap about it..but it answered my question for me. | 12:02 |
| sash_ | Hello together. I tried to install karmic from a mini-iso to a virtualbox on jaunty. I created LVM and Encryption of /, /home and swap. Everything worked fine, until i started the installation of the system. I was told, the package <dontremember>.release.tar.gz would be broken and if I would install from a CD, I should burn it more slowly. Well, its an image ;). Before I start searching, I wanted to ask, | 12:20 |
| sash_ | if there are any known issues with karmic-mini.iso, lvm or encryption in the actual release? I am sure, that I have a networkconnection in the virtual machine (there is NAT by default in vbox and the gui tells me, it would be connected). Thanks for help. | 12:20 |
| sash_ | sry... | 12:20 |
| === repete is now known as rep-eat | ||
| diverse_izzue | does bluetooth work even just remotely for you guys on karmic? on my thinkpad t60 i can't do anything with it... | 13:04 |
| ClapBedon | hi there | 13:09 |
| gnomefreak | hi | 13:10 |
| ClapBedon | I need a hand with a dist-upgrade | 13:11 |
| ClapBedon | I was trying to upgrade to karmic but had to shut it down while downloading packages (i've got a very slow connection) | 13:12 |
| ClapBedon | But when I try to restart dist-upgrade, it doesn't show karmic anymore | 13:12 |
| ClapBedon | but says that my system is fully up to date | 13:13 |
| === rep-eat is now known as repete | ||
| ClapBedon | any idea ? | 13:14 |
| ClapBedon | should /var/lib/update-manager/meta-release mention karmic in some way ? I really don't know | 13:19 |
| Pici | ClapBedon: I don't even have that file on my machine.... What does lsb_release -a report? | 13:27 |
| ClapBedon | Pici : that's it jaunty 9.04 | 13:28 |
| Pici | ClapBedon: Then it sounds like your upgrade didn't complete sucessfully. What tool did you use in the beginning to upgrade to Karmic? | 13:29 |
| ClapBedon | No LSB modules are available. ; Distributor ID:Ubuntu ; Description:Ubuntu 9.04 ; Release:9.04 ; Codename:jaunty | 13:29 |
| ClapBedon | update-manager -d | 13:29 |
| ClapBedon | i had to close it while it was still downloading packages | 13:30 |
| ClapBedon | so nothing got installed at all | 13:30 |
| Pici | ClapBedon: Thats at least good, what happens if you run update-manager -d again? | 13:30 |
| ClapBedon | it tells me that I'm up to date, and that no newer distribution is available | 13:31 |
| Pici | ClapBedon: hrmm.. Could you try doing do-release-upgrade -d perhaps? | 13:34 |
| mac_v | awalton: Hi... i'm confused about the bug , http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=590500 , i dont think its a dup | 13:34 |
| ubottu | Gnome bug 590500 in Backgrounds Emblems and Themes "Support for background transparency" [Enhancement,Resolved: duplicate] | 13:34 |
| awalton | mac_v, from your latest attempt at explaining it, it is and it isn't. you want a composited icon container, just not desktop-specific, and that's not something we're ever likely to do. | 13:37 |
| mac_v | awalton: oh ok... well it was just a feature request :) | 13:39 |
| awalton | the only reason we really should add it for the desktop case is just so that nautilus can stop caring so much about the wallpaper | 13:40 |
| ClapBedon | Pici : it's slowly downloading something | 13:40 |
| awalton | it's really not nautilus' job, but since it draws the icons on the desktop, we inherited it :/ | 13:41 |
| mac_v | :( | 13:43 |
| BluesKaj | howdy all | 14:08 |
| stevepearce | hello BluesKaj | 14:13 |
| BluesKaj | hey stevepearce | 14:14 |
| BluesKaj | I've had a shutsown prob since I upgraded to 4.3, been using sudo halt . Anyone else experiencing this ? | 14:28 |
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| gnomefreak | BluesKaj: sorry nope | 14:32 |
| stevepearce | BluesKaj, same, everything is working correctly | 14:36 |
| BluesKaj | gnomefreak, stevepearce , it's no biggie , just a small annoyance . I'm sure a dev will fix it eventually | 14:39 |
| andresmh | my Karmic is working decently well and I see there are a bunch of updates. Is there a place where I can read what known bugs there are if I want to update? | 15:13 |
| mac_v | andresmh: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/karmic/alpha3#Known%20issues | 15:17 |
| andresmh | thanks mac_v. How can I check what alpha version I have? I don't remember :-/ | 15:18 |
| mac_v | andresmh: $ uname -a gives the kernel , but i dont think there is a way to find alpha version | 15:20 |
| Laibsch | anybody have an idea what may be preventing me from logging in to X unless I disable bash-completion? -> bug 408804 | 15:20 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 408804 in ubuntu-dev-tools "bash completion prevents X login" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/408804 | 15:20 |
| andresmh | ok, no prob | 15:20 |
| Laibsch | Andybody else seeing that? | 15:20 |
| hggdh | Laibsch, I had bash-completion disabled. I will enable it, and try. brb | 15:25 |
| ClapBedon | Pici : are you still there ? | 15:32 |
| hggdh | Laibsch, I cannot confirm -- I logged in without issues. Per the last entry in the bug, this would be on the /etc/bash_completion.d/pbuilder-dist | 15:32 |
| hggdh | and I do have pbuilder installed | 15:32 |
| hggdh | weird. Anyway, there are now two affected by this, so I am marking confirmed | 15:33 |
| Laibsch | really? | 15:34 |
| Laibsch | need to check the bug again | 15:34 |
| hggdh | :-) | 15:34 |
| hggdh | Laibsch, it would be good if you could confirm the error to be at the same place | 15:35 |
| Pici | ClapBedon: Partially | 15:35 |
| Laibsch | hggdh: Are you CdA? | 15:35 |
| hggdh | Laibsch, yes, I guess I am | 15:35 |
| Laibsch | :-D | 15:35 |
| Laibsch | Then you failed counting ;-) | 15:35 |
| hggdh | dammit! | 15:36 |
| ClapBedon | Pici : I finally got the message that after updating information on my packages, the essential package 'ubuntu-minimal' could not be found and that it is an important error | 15:36 |
| hggdh | how did I confuse RL with RL... I do not know. I will blame it to my incipient migrane, though... | 15:37 |
| hggdh | Laibsch, I will return the bug to NEW, then, OK? | 15:37 |
| Laibsch | sure | 15:37 |
| Laibsch | I wonder about the inner workings of that bug | 15:38 |
| hggdh | so do I | 15:39 |
| BluesKaj | hmm I see medibuntu is still unreachable | 15:46 |
| BluesKaj | archive.canonical.com is also not connecting | 15:59 |
| bjsnider | works here | 16:00 |
| jpds | bjsnider: Works here. | 16:01 |
| jpds | tracepath would be helpful. | 16:01 |
| BluesKaj | bjsnider, which server ? | 16:04 |
| bjsnider | archive.canonical.com | 16:04 |
| BluesKaj | main or canada | 16:05 |
| bjsnider | but that's just a subdomain of canonical.com | 16:05 |
| bjsnider | it may not even be a different physical machine | 16:05 |
| bjsnider | no, i just typed it into the browser | 16:05 |
| BluesKaj | it's a repos source site , bjsnider | 16:10 |
| bjsnider | yes i see that | 16:10 |
| BluesKaj | medibuntu repos still isn't connecting | 16:12 |
| BluesKaj | hmm, maybe my sources.list needs updating :) | 16:13 |
| EagleScreen | medibuntu is downloading well for me | 16:14 |
| BluesKaj | yeah, EagleScreen but you're in Spain, I'm in Canada | 16:18 |
| BluesKaj | aha, aptitude is balking at medibuntu and archive.canonical but apt isn't | 16:25 |
| aboSamoor | is gnome shell available in karmic ? | 16:36 |
| jonathonf | not yet, at least not in the repos | 16:38 |
| jonathonf | you can compile it though | 16:38 |
| SeveredCross | I think there's a PPA | 16:38 |
| aboSamoor | what about this ? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell | 16:38 |
| SeveredCross | https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/+archive/ppa | 16:38 |
| jonathonf | lol, the version of gnome-shell on that ppa makes me slightly nervous :D 0.0.1~git | 16:46 |
| hggdh | Laibsch, ping | 16:50 |
| aboSamoor | jonathonf, anyway, it is broken | 16:50 |
| jonathonf | ah, yes, failed to build :( | 16:51 |
| slacker_nl | is karmic only available by ISO or can I also get it via do-release-upgrade? | 16:59 |
| mac_v | slacker_nl: you can do either | 17:04 |
| === Zorael^2 is now known as Zorael | ||
| Zorael | Hum, where are karmic's KDE 4.3 packages? | 17:10 |
| jonathonf | kde team ppa? | 17:13 |
| jonathonf | Zorael: if you can't wait for them to be put into the main repo packages are available backported for jaunty | 17:15 |
| jonathonf | https://edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/backports | 17:15 |
| Zorael | use jaunty's packages, you mean? | 17:16 |
| dupondje | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/aptitude/+bug/391035 <- still nobody with this issue ? :s | 17:16 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 391035 in aptitude "aptitude stops displaying downloads" [Undecided,New] | 17:17 |
| Zorael | obviously an alternative. I just figured that the chances of me not looking in the right places was higher (than the solution being to add the ppa as a jaunty ppa) | 17:17 |
| Zorael | were* higher | 17:17 |
| slacker_nl | mac_v: what do I need to put in /etc/update-manager/releasesomething file | 17:17 |
| slacker_nl | Prompt is either: never, lts or normal | 17:17 |
| mac_v | slacker_nl: #update-manager -d | 17:18 |
| mac_v | run that^ | 17:18 |
| slacker_nl | mkay | 17:18 |
| mac_v | no need to edit /etc | 17:18 |
| slacker_nl | mac_v: do you have a non-gui method? | 17:19 |
| mac_v | slacker_nl: i dont know | 17:19 |
| slacker_nl | mkay | 17:20 |
| jonathonf | yeah, i presume karmic packages are in the process of being built/approved | 17:21 |
| slacker_nl | mac_v: do-release-upgrade -d | 17:22 |
| slacker_nl | https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/serverguide/C/installing-upgrading.html | 17:22 |
| Zorael | Suddenly karmic packages are (partially) available ;3 | 17:24 |
| alphaaquilae | hello world, my mic doesn't work, can someone help me to configure it? | 17:32 |
| alphaaquilae | hello world, my mic doesn't work, can someone help me to configure it? | 17:36 |
| scizzo- | Zorael: what exactly do you mean with that? | 17:37 |
| scizzo- | Zorael: do you mean partial upgrade comes up? | 17:37 |
| alphaaquilae | i have an integrated mic in my sony viao computer, yet i can't record with it | 17:38 |
| Zorael | scizzo-: No, just commented on earlier exchange. karmic KDE 4.3 packages, couldn't fetch them earlier and now they're partially available. | 17:38 |
| jonathonf | lol, good good :) | 17:38 |
| jonathonf | i need to set up a vm to test kubuntu... i want to see what's changed in KDE 4.3 | 17:38 |
| jonathonf | hmm... whether to install from an Ubuntu iso then install kubutu-desktop, or download a whole new Kubuntu iso... | 17:38 |
| scizzo- | Zorael: might be because they are not fully there yet | 17:39 |
| scizzo- | Zorael: you should check with kubuntu team instead | 17:39 |
| jonathonf | alphaaquilae: heard you the first time, was looking on ubuntuforums for the same problem | 17:39 |
| jonathonf | alphaaquilae: go to the sound manager, click the hardware tab, select your hardware, make sure it has both input and output selected in the drop down menu. | 17:40 |
| jonathonf | alphaaquilae: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1230642 | 17:40 |
| scizzo- | dupondje: have you tried running aptitude using another user? | 17:40 |
| scizzo- | dupondje: also with another terminal like xterm? | 17:40 |
| alphaaquilae | jonathonf: can't fine hardware tab, do you mean by sound manager volume control or sound preferences? | 17:50 |
| jonathonf | system, preferences, sound | 17:51 |
| jonathonf | check the setup in hardware | 17:51 |
| jonathonf | then make sure a device is selected under input | 17:51 |
| alphaaquilae | yes i've already checked it, but i can't fine hardware tab, i have only devices and sound tabs?! | 17:52 |
| jonathonf | alphaaquilae: could you check the version of gnome-media with $ apt-cache policy gnome-media | 18:01 |
| alphaaquilae | jonathonf: gnome-media: | 18:02 |
| alphaaquilae | Installé : 2.26.0-0ubuntu3 | 18:02 |
| alphaaquilae | Candidat : 2.26.0-0ubuntu3 | 18:02 |
| alphaaquilae | Table de version : | 18:02 |
| alphaaquilae | *** 2.26.0-0ubuntu3 0 | 18:02 |
| alphaaquilae | 500 http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com jaunty/main Packages | 18:02 |
| alphaaquilae | 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status | 18:02 |
| jonathonf | are you running karmic? | 18:03 |
| jonathonf | no | 18:03 |
| jonathonf | that would be why | 18:03 |
| jonathonf | i have version 2.27.5 | 18:03 |
| alphaaquilae | what should i do then jonathonf? | 18:05 |
| Pici | alphaaquilae: This channel is only for Karmic (9.10) discussion and support. Support for current versions of Ubuntu can be found in #ubuntu | 18:05 |
| jonathonf | i would suggest you try #ubuntu-fr or #ubuntu | 18:05 |
| alphaaquilae | can't get a reponse from there | 18:06 |
| alphaaquilae | thx anyway | 18:06 |
| jonathonf | there will be a solution, but without a jaunty box to poke about on i can't help you any further ;) | 18:07 |
| coz_ | alphaaquilae, if no one responds in a channel . .. it's likely no one is avaiable who knows the answer...however...if you try #linux channel....you may get an answer :) | 18:07 |
| alphaaquilae | ok i'll try it | 18:08 |
| alphaaquilae | thanks | 18:08 |
| coz_ | no problem | 18:09 |
| cdE|Woozy | if I change the balance setting to something other than "middle" in gnome-volume-control and change the volume after that, balance bounces back to middle. bug in gnome-volume-control, then? | 18:10 |
| === jonath0n is now known as jonathond | ||
| === jonathond is now known as jonathonf | ||
| bernier | Hi, I want to break my system. How can I upgrade from jaunty to karmic? | 18:18 |
| jonathonf | lol | 18:19 |
| jonathonf | update-manager -d | 18:19 |
| jonathonf | but it likely won' break | 18:19 |
| jonathonf | :) | 18:19 |
| bernier | I know, but I usually get a warning when I ask this type of question | 18:20 |
| bernier | thank you. | 18:20 |
| curtis_ | So I want to break my system. Upgrade method please? | 18:20 |
| jonathonf | whoa | 18:21 |
| bernier | lmao | 18:21 |
| jonathonf | deja vu | 18:21 |
| jonathonf | $ update-manager -d | 18:21 |
| curtis_ | say wuh? | 18:21 |
| jonathonf | but it likely won' break | 18:21 |
| curtis_ | oh wow that's it | 18:21 |
| curtis_ | easier than I thought | 18:21 |
| jonathonf | yeah :) | 18:21 |
| curtis_ | will it keep all my settings or am I have to install everything again? | 18:21 |
| jonathonf | keep everything | 18:21 |
| curtis_ | oh nice | 18:22 |
| jonathonf | justy like a normal distribution upgrade | 18:22 |
| bernier | I'm using kubuntu, which seems not to have update manager | 18:22 |
| * jonathonf uses plain Ubuntu | 18:22 | |
| jonathonf | i have no idea, i'm sure there is a way | 18:22 |
| curtis_ | well here's hoping to it not breaking, but just incase I also have Debian, Vista, 7, and OSX Leopard installed | 18:22 |
| curtis_ | overkill? | 18:22 |
| curtis_ | probably | 18:22 |
| jonathonf | lol, no | 18:22 |
| jonathonf | i have karmic, 7 and 10.5.6 also :) | 18:22 |
| curtis_ | bernier: this is what you get for using kubuntu | 18:23 |
| bernier | lol | 18:23 |
| curtis_ | trust your processor to deal with a regular load | 18:23 |
| curtis_ | it's what it's made for trust me | 18:23 |
| curtis_ | 10.5.6? | 18:23 |
| curtis_ | wtdaf? | 18:23 |
| curtis_ | the NEW new ubuntu? | 18:23 |
| bernier | lol | 18:24 |
| bernier | mac | 18:24 |
| jonathonf | lol | 18:24 |
| curtis_ | oh okay | 18:24 |
| curtis_ | yeah just looked | 18:24 |
| curtis_ | they want me to Bet Snow Leopard | 18:24 |
| curtis_ | or did | 18:24 |
| curtis_ | actually I think they still do | 18:24 |
| curtis_ | I'm like HARD DRIVE WILL MELT!!!! | 18:24 |
| jonathonf | not sure Snow Leopard will install on mine... at least not yet | 18:25 |
| curtis_ | I haz huge processor | 18:25 |
| jonathonf | lol | 18:25 |
| jonathonf | it's not the size of it that counts... | 18:25 |
| curtis_ | oh but it IS the processor | 18:25 |
| bernier | i7? | 18:26 |
| curtis_ | hold on | 18:26 |
| curtis_ | shallrun lspci | 18:26 |
| DanaG | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/2:8.632-0ubuntu1/+changelog | 18:26 |
| DanaG | hmm... does that include the patches to make it work on 2.6.30 and 2.6.31? | 18:26 |
| jonathonf | danag: i think that was in previously | 18:27 |
| curtis_ | i7-975 Extreme 3.86 GHz 8MB cache | 18:27 |
| jonathonf | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/ | 18:27 |
| curtis_ | 1 Terabyte of HD | 18:27 |
| curtis_ | 16 of RAM | 18:27 |
| curtis_ | 16GB that is | 18:28 |
| curtis_ | Alienware <3 | 18:28 |
| bernier | got it for kubuntu in case someone wants to know, it's: update-notifier-kde -d | 18:28 |
| jonathonf | DanaG: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/2:8.620-0ubuntu3/+changelog | 18:28 |
| DanaG | hmm, doesn't say anything about those patches in the new one. | 18:28 |
| bernier | 5000$? | 18:28 |
| curtis_ | far far more | 18:28 |
| curtis_ | more than I want to admit to | 18:29 |
| bernier | 8k? | 18:29 |
| curtis_ | higher | 18:29 |
| bernier | lol | 18:29 |
| curtis_ | it was more than the paypal transaction limit LMFAO | 18:29 |
| DanaG | You speaking of desktop, or laptop? | 18:29 |
| curtis_ | desktop | 18:29 |
| bernier | could have built the same with much lower price | 18:29 |
| DanaG | google for HP Z800. | 18:29 |
| jonathonf | was thinking it's expensive for a desktop | 18:29 |
| bernier | parts by parts | 18:29 |
| DanaG | Now that... is a beast of a machine. | 18:29 |
| curtis_ | http://www.alienware.com/products/alx-x58-desktop.aspx?SysCode=PC-ALX-X58-R2&SubCode=SKU-DEFAULT | 18:29 |
| curtis_ | no my friend | 18:30 |
| curtis_ | THAT is a beast of a machine | 18:30 |
| curtis_ | and that is mine | 18:30 |
| curtis_ | but with all the upgrades at max | 18:30 |
| curtis_ | except for one I think but I forget which :P | 18:30 |
| bernier | are you rich? | 18:30 |
| curtis_ | not particularly | 18:30 |
| curtis_ | actually not at all | 18:30 |
| curtis_ | but one spring and summer working on computers at best buy and not spending a dime on ANYTHING, and that's what I decided to get | 18:31 |
| bernier | can you run CS 1.6 with > 100 FPS? | 18:31 |
| curtis_ | I have no idea | 18:31 |
| jonathonf | but will it run Crysis? | 18:31 |
| curtis_ | I've never tried | 18:31 |
| bernier | lol | 18:31 |
| bernier | suely you do | 18:31 |
| curtis_ | nothing will run Crysis | 18:31 |
| curtis_ | they like to say t's because your system sucks ass | 18:32 |
| curtis_ | really it's because the game sucks ass | 18:32 |
| curtis_ | :P | 18:32 |
| jonathonf | lol | 18:32 |
| jonathonf | have to admit i've never tried it | 18:32 |
| jonathonf | i'm happy with CoD4 running in Wine :D | 18:32 |
| jonathonf | quite impressed it works as well as it does | 18:32 |
| curtis_ | Here's the real question right here | 18:33 |
| DanaG | http://www.justechn.com/2009/05/27/review-hp-z800-8-core-workstation | 18:33 |
| curtis_ | why haven't you just downloaded and installed the FREE Windows 7 RC | 18:33 |
| curtis_ | because guess what | 18:33 |
| curtis_ | that works about four times better than wine does | 18:33 |
| jonathonf | i have | 18:33 |
| jonathonf | but it means i have to reboot just to play games :) | 18:33 |
| curtis_ | well then RUN IT IN 7 DAMNIT | 18:33 |
| bernier | yeah I have it and I gotta admit it runs great | 18:33 |
| curtis_ | Yeah I was expecting ass when they asked me to alpha test but it was NICE | 18:34 |
| curtis_ | although at that stage unrealistically buggy | 18:34 |
| jonathonf | the beta was pretty amazing for a beta | 18:34 |
| curtis_ | which was sad because it corrupted that sector of the HD after a few weeks testing | 18:34 |
| jonathonf | though having said that it was effectively vista+ | 18:34 |
| curtis_ | yeah the beta it was SIGNIFICANTLY improved | 18:34 |
| curtis_ | it was WAY beyond Vista+ | 18:35 |
| curtis_ | and even if it was, if you take out the shit problems in Vista, you would have a good OS | 18:35 |
| jonathonf | true | 18:35 |
| curtis_ | 7 does this, so ultimately whatever you want to call it it works incredibly well | 18:35 |
| jussi01 | !ot | 18:35 |
| ubottu | #ubuntu+1 handles support for the development version of Ubuntu. Please join #ubuntu for all other Ubuntu support. Chat in #ubuntu-offtopic. | 18:35 |
| jonathonf | be back soon | 18:35 |
| curtis_ | jussi01: you just blew my mind onto the ceiling, shall join that channel after joining this one after being told the FIRST one is the wrong on to discuss Ubuntu Karmic | 18:36 |
| jussi01 | curtis_: my backlog is filled with vista discussion, whats in yours? | 18:37 |
| curtis_ | if you are reffering to the last three minutes then yes quite obviously mine is filled with the same | 18:38 |
| jussi01 | curtis_: ,y point exactly. lets try to stick to karmic, shall we? | 18:38 |
| curtis_ | yes lets | 18:38 |
| jussi01 | curtis_: thanks :) | 18:39 |
| curtis_ | jussi01: First one's free ;) | 18:39 |
| curtis_ | is there an ubuntu channel for compiling a personal kernel as well or is that a shot in the dark with no impact heard? | 18:42 |
| hix | #kernel ? | 18:44 |
| aboSamoor | the new sound properties does not have mixer ? anyway to be sure that the mic configured correctly | 18:59 |
| BUGabundo | my android G2 arrived WOOT | 19:01 |
| aboSamoor | BUGabundo, with karmic ? | 19:01 |
| BUGabundo | ehehheheheehe | 19:02 |
| Sarvatt | yuck, why'd you pick a G2 over a G1? :D | 19:03 |
| aboSamoor | BUGabundo, how much does it cost ? | 19:03 |
| BUGabundo | 225€ | 19:04 |
| Sarvatt | i dont think theres even any terminal apps that use an onscreen keyboard :( | 19:04 |
| aboSamoor | BUGabundo, this is with the lease ? | 19:04 |
| BUGabundo | nope | 19:05 |
| BUGabundo | fully paid | 19:05 |
| EagleScreen | kvkbd is onscreen keyboard | 19:05 |
| Sarvatt | i mean for android | 19:05 |
| Sarvatt | BUGabundo: for the fun stuff -- http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=480 :) | 19:07 |
| EagleScreen | i do not know very well what android is, but isn't it a GNU/Linux system? | 19:07 |
| BUGabundo | it is EagleScreen | 19:08 |
| BUGabundo | maybe some day I can put ubuntu mid on it | 19:08 |
| Sarvatt | did you get a 288MB ram or a 192MB ram version? should say on the sticker that was on the screen | 19:08 |
| EagleScreen | BUGabundo: if it is a GNU/Linux system, why can't you install kvkbd on it? | 19:09 |
| Sarvatt | its not a GNU/Linux system is why | 19:09 |
| EagleScreen | oh okay | 19:10 |
| BUGabundo | Sarvatt: not sure | 19:10 |
| BUGabundo | I think it's the 288 | 19:11 |
| Sarvatt | just uses the linux kernel, has its own specific libc | 19:11 |
| Sarvatt | but you can install things in a chroot, i have karmic armel on mine | 19:11 |
| Sarvatt | i use it for compiling armel packages, actually is faster than qemu chroot speeds on my machines | 19:12 |
| itswhatev | anyone found a fix/workaround for brasero's inability to detect a blank cd? | 19:18 |
| bmunger | k3b? | 19:19 |
| durt | *cough* xfburn | 19:19 |
| durt | but then again brasero hasn't worked for me since 8.04 | 19:20 |
| jonathonf | BUGabundo: where did you get a g2 from for €225? :O | 19:23 |
| BUGabundo | tmn.pt | 19:23 |
| BUGabundo | special ONE day only | 19:24 |
| BUGabundo | 50% off | 19:24 |
| jonathonf | wowzers | 19:24 |
| BUGabundo | now its 50€ off only | 19:24 |
| jonathonf | oh | 19:24 |
| raindog_mini | Latest updates for Kubuntu hosed my ability to login. | 19:24 |
| aboSamoor | BUGabundo, I can not understand, on Amazon it is for 800 $ ?! | 19:24 |
| raindog_mini | Can't get a terminal to try and fix it. | 19:25 |
| EagleScreen | raindog_mini: boot kubuntu in recovery mode | 19:26 |
| EagleScreen | then try to fix the system | 19:26 |
| raindog_mini | EagleScreen: Ah, yes. I"m so stupid sometimes. Thanks. | 19:26 |
| raindog_mini | Trying to run apt-get update, I receive the following. Failed to open connection to "system" messwge bus: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory. (and more) | 19:30 |
| jonathonf | $ sudo /etc/initid/dbus start | 19:31 |
| jonathonf | ? | 19:31 |
| jonathonf | $ sudo /etc/init.d/dbus start | 19:31 |
| jonathonf | even | 19:31 |
| Sarvatt | just sounds like the packagekit hooks into apt failing, nothing to be worried about..? | 19:32 |
| jonathonf | though as you're in recovery mode you dont need sudo | 19:32 |
| raindog_mini | Yeah, the error goes on to talk about apt hooks and Packagekit. | 19:32 |
| raindog_mini | I'll try as you suggest. THanks for the suggestion. | 19:32 |
| Sarvatt | should be safe to ignore it, does it not complete? | 19:33 |
| raindog_mini | apt-get update worked after starting dbus. Thanks jonathonf | 19:34 |
| Sarvatt | /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/20packagekit -- APT::Update::Post-Invoke-Success { "/usr/bin/dbus-send --system --dest=org.freedesktop.PackageKit --type=method_call /org/freedesktop/PackageKit org.freedesktop.PackageKit.StateHasChanged string:'cache-update'"; }; | 19:34 |
| raindog_mini | Sarvatt: That was it. | 19:34 |
| Sarvatt | its just notifying packagekit that the cache was updated, but you dont care about that because you arent in a desktop environment | 19:34 |
| raindog_mini | The latest updates also apparently removed kubuntu-desktop. Added it back now and rebooting. | 19:35 |
| DanaG | what the hell.... my screen just randomly blanked again! | 19:37 |
| raindog_mini | jonathonf: Sarvatt: Thanks that did the trick. I'm still learning, obviously. | 19:38 |
| loonyphoenix | Had a random screen flicker. The screen suddenly went black (even though I was moving the mouse around), but it lighted back up after I clicked my mouse. Anybody else have that? | 20:19 |
| loonyphoenix | *had | 20:19 |
| jonathonf | yeah | 20:19 |
| stormy2k | Hi everyone. I got some problems using compiz in karmic. Everytime i switch on the desktop effects my cpu goes up to 100 % usage and stays there. System monitor tells me that gconfd-2 is using most of it | 20:19 |
| jonathonf | it's some power management bug or something | 20:19 |
| jonathonf | stormy2k: do a $ killall metacity | 20:20 |
| DanaG | My screen randomly blanks, too. | 20:20 |
| loonyphoenix | also, the cursor flickers constantly when it's dynamic (like the waiting cursor) | 20:20 |
| stormy2k | Thanks, that did the trick... | 20:20 |
| loonyphoenix | Does anybody have that? | 20:20 |
| loonyphoenix | also, the video flickers in full screen when controls appear/disappear... are all these issues reported? | 20:21 |
| Sarvatt | DanaG: http://blogs.gnome.org/hughsie/2009/07/30/accidental-blanking-and-gnome-power-manager/ | 20:24 |
| Sarvatt | do you have intel video loonyphoenix? if so the cursor flicker is a well known issue | 20:25 |
| DanaG | hmm, my issue wasn't failure to unblank... it unblanks just fine. | 20:25 |
| Sarvatt | yeah the problem is its reading the session idle wrong and calling a screen blank when its not really idle the first time it starts up | 20:25 |
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| diverse_izzue | loonyphoenix, was that on battery? | 20:26 |
| Sarvatt | in system - preferences - power management - battery it always goes idle and blanks the screen however many minutes you have it set there after the session starts, for me its just a one time thing though but thats probably because it doesnt detect that i'm on battery ever again after the first time i go off of ac power | 20:28 |
| Sarvatt | if i kill devkit-power-daemon and g-p-m and restart them it'll blank again x minutes after i start them (whatever i have it set to) | 20:28 |
| DanaG | Does the same thing also cause the "screen won't un-dim"? | 20:29 |
| loonyphoenix | Sarvatt: yeah, intel video, though not battery | 20:29 |
| Sarvatt | that i dont know about, depends on the hardware and how it handles dpms | 20:29 |
| loonyphoenix | and the fullscreen video flicker? | 20:30 |
| loonyphoenix | that's the same issue? | 20:30 |
| Sarvatt | thats a 2.6.31-rc3+ issue | 20:31 |
| Sarvatt | 2.6.31-2 should be fine if you install that | 20:31 |
| loonyphoenix | don't wanna) | 20:31 |
| Sarvatt | the fixes have taken awhile to make it up to linus | 20:31 |
| loonyphoenix | so there's a fix? | 20:31 |
| loonyphoenix | we're waiting for it to float downstream? | 20:31 |
| Sarvatt | waiting for it to float from the intel kernel branch to the main kernel branch then get released and made into a karmic kernel :D | 20:32 |
| Sarvatt | might actually be in linus' tree now, lessee | 20:33 |
| Sarvatt | nope still not there | 20:34 |
| loonyphoenix | pity) | 20:34 |
| loonyphoenix | (downstream to Linus... that's what I hear when I go to a dev distribution:) never actually imagined *Linus* could be considered downstrream...) | 20:36 |
| jonathonf | lol | 20:37 |
| loonyphoenix | yeah, he's like at the top) | 20:37 |
| loonyphoenix | the top of the mountain, so to speak) | 20:37 |
| Sarvatt | the fixes are in there waiting to be pulled still -- http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/anholt/drm-intel.git;a=shortlog;h=for-linus | 20:37 |
| Sarvatt | but i dont see any pull requests | 20:38 |
| loonyphoenix | I guess the fix is still being condensed into a cloud... | 20:38 |
| aboSamoor | ok, I got it kacpi_notify in KDE 4.3 replaced notify-osd ! this is why I can not get the ubuntu notification system anymore ! | 20:55 |
| maxb | Is anyone else having their numeric keypad fail to work in Karmic ? | 20:56 |
| aboSamoor | maxb, laptop keyboard Fn keys are not working | 20:58 |
| BUGabundo | back | 20:58 |
| BUGabundo | darn pidgin | 20:58 |
| maxb | No, this is a standard desktop keyboard | 20:58 |
| jeremy_ | hello | 20:59 |
| jeremy_ | exit | 21:03 |
| jeremy_ | quit | 21:03 |
| jonathonf | you need a / in front of those commands | 21:04 |
| loonyphoenix | too late) | 21:04 |
| loonyphoenix | i think he figured that out | 21:04 |
| jonathonf | lol | 21:04 |
| jonathonf | i turned off join/part messages | 21:04 |
| jonathonf | probably not useful in this case :D | 21:04 |
| loonyphoenix | Pidgin has a cool feature: a plugin that hides join/leave messages IF the user was inactive for 10 minutes or more | 21:05 |
| loonyphoenix | That's the best IRC plugin I've ever encountered | 21:05 |
| loonyphoenix | Cudos to the creator | 21:05 |
| jonathonf | nice | 21:06 |
| loonyphoenix | BTW, I think Empathy is still not ready to replace Pidgin in Ubuntu | 21:06 |
| loonyphoenix | I tried it out and, well... | 21:07 |
| jonathonf | not by a long shot | 21:07 |
| loonyphoenix | Ah well | 21:07 |
| loonyphoenix | One more package to install upon system update | 21:07 |
| loonyphoenix | Big deal | 21:07 |
| loonyphoenix | Dozens of them anyway | 21:07 |
| loonyphoenix | Actually, I should keep a list | 21:08 |
| loonyphoenix | Would speed things up significantly) | 21:08 |
| dr3mro | q ? does karmic fixed video teraing in intel gma | 21:10 |
| loonyphoenix | um... actually, haven't noticed any tearing since I installed Karmic | 21:11 |
| loonyphoenix | But that was 2 days ago) | 21:11 |
| loonyphoenix | And that was 2 vids... | 21:11 |
| dr3mro | loonyphoenix, so karmic fixed video tear in fast motion scens | 21:11 |
| loonyphoenix | maybe | 21:12 |
| loonyphoenix | or maybe not | 21:12 |
| dr3mro | loonyphoenix, coooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool | 21:12 |
| dr3mro | loonyphoenix, can you test now ! | 21:12 |
| loonyphoenix | dr3mro: can't you? | 21:12 |
| dr3mro | loonyphoenix, having slow internet to download karmic | 21:13 |
| dr3mro | loonyphoenix, if it fixes that video i shall download it to test new video driver | 21:13 |
| loonyphoenix | Okay. I'll try it out :) | 21:13 |
| dr3mro | loonyphoenix, THANK YOU | 21:14 |
| * loonyphoenix is looking for a suitable pan... | 21:15 | |
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| jonathonf | uh oh. just got new pulseaudio packages with a new pulseaudio-module-udev replaceing pulseaudio-module-hal | 21:18 |
| jonathonf | could be interesting | 21:18 |
| uffo | please integrate folder sharing in kubuntu 9.10 by default that is usable with share oprion. | 21:19 |
| loonyphoenix | dr3mro: can't see any tearing, but it wasn't an exhaustive test :) | 21:19 |
| loonyphoenix | is there an actual test? | 21:19 |
| dr3mro | loonyphoenix, thank you now i donwload it and wait the pain to complete the donwload | 21:20 |
| dr3mro | thank you | 21:20 |
| loonyphoenix | though there is some trouble with video | 21:21 |
| loonyphoenix | it flickers when in full screen while controls show up / disappear | 21:22 |
| loonyphoenix | if desktop effects are on | 21:22 |
| === Le-Chuck_ITA1 is now known as Le-Chuck_ITA | ||
| uffo | please integrate folder sharing in kubuntu 9.10 by default that is usable with share oprion, even windows has sharing integrated by default. | 21:27 |
| hggdh | uffo, this channel is not the best place to ask that... consider opening a bug on launchpad instead | 21:33 |
| === Le-Chuck_ITA1 is now known as Le-Chuck_ITA | ||
| uffo | hggdh: it is not bug, but Ubuntu always comes without file sharing but it is must have that file sharing works out of box like Windows and Mac. | 21:37 |
| hggdh | uffo: it *is* a bug. It will be looked at as a wishlist, but nevertheless a bug | 21:37 |
| hggdh | until a bug is opened for that, we cannot expect any changes | 21:38 |
| === DanaG1 is now known as DanaG | ||
| === DanaG1 is now known as DanaG | ||
| Varox | hi all! | 21:56 |
| Varox | did somone of you try to update to kde 4.3 today? | 21:57 |
| BUGabundo | I have it | 22:00 |
| Varox | BUGabundo: the same error? | 22:02 |
| BUGabundo | what error? | 22:02 |
| BUGabundo | I use gnome mostly | 22:02 |
| Varox | BUGabundo: sorry :) hold on | 22:02 |
| BUGabundo | and some kde apps | 22:02 |
| Varox | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1232503 | 22:02 |
| Varox | me too, but just because kde 4.2 was very buggy | 22:02 |
| Varox | BUGabundo: | 22:04 |
| BUGabundo | checking | 22:04 |
| Varox | BUGabundo: thanks | 22:04 |
| BUGabundo | bad depencies | 22:04 |
| BUGabundo | did you force the upgrade | 22:05 |
| BUGabundo | ? | 22:05 |
| BUGabundo | or did a parcial? | 22:05 |
| Varox | hm, i added the lines for the new repository and tried to update | 22:05 |
| Varox | but i am not really sure what you mean | 22:06 |
| Varox | i followed those instructions: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.3 | 22:06 |
| BUGabundo | you added lines??? | 22:09 |
| BUGabundo | ooppssss | 22:09 |
| Varox | BUGabundo: well, this one: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu jaunty main | 22:10 |
| BUGabundo | ok | 22:11 |
| BUGabundo | please pastebin the result of: $ sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude safe-upgrade | 22:12 |
| Varox | BUGabundo: http://pastebin.com/m3594059 | 22:13 |
| BUGabundo | Varox: pastebin this: sudo aptitude full-upgrade | 22:15 |
| Varox | BUGabundo: http://pastebin.com/m192b339c | 22:16 |
| hggdh | Varox are you running Jaunty? | 22:16 |
| Varox | 9.04 | 22:16 |
| Varox | hggdh: | 22:16 |
| BUGabundo | Varox: file a bug with that and ping #kubuntu-devel | 22:17 |
| hggdh | Varox, K. I am sorry to say this, but this channel looks & works with 9.10 only | 22:17 |
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| * BUGabundo goes back to play with Android | 22:17 | |
| BUGabundo | hggdh: he has kde 4.3 | 22:17 |
| Varox | hggdh: the users of #ubuntu told me to ask here :-/ | 22:17 |
| BUGabundo | aka what karmic kubuntu runs on | 22:17 |
| BUGabundo | Varox: better try #kubuntu-devel | 22:18 |
| Varox | but this link says it should work with 9.04 as well: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.3 | 22:18 |
| Varox | BUGabundo: i will, thanks | 22:18 |
| hggdh | yes, off the PPA. it seems not all dependencies are there yet | 22:18 |
| * BUGabundo opens gimp to hack some Ubuntu wallpaper for Android | 22:18 | |
| hggdh | so you cannot do a blanket dist-upgrade, but either wait for all dependencies to be published, or cherry-pick | 22:19 |
| hggdh | Varox, ^^ | 22:19 |
| Varox | i like cherry-picking :) | 22:20 |
| hggdh | it will be a lot of work, but at least you will get *most* of 4.3 | 22:20 |
| hggdh | now | 22:21 |
| DanaG | ugh... wtf... pulseaudio UDEV thingy breaks bluetooth audio! | 22:36 |
| DanaG | damnit. | 22:36 |
| * loonyphoenix is reading the shuttleworth vs. debian radicals debate | 22:51 | |
| Zorael | loonyphoenix: link? | 22:52 |
| loonyphoenix | http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2009/08/msg00092.html | 22:55 |
| hggdh | thanks | 22:55 |
| loonyphoenix | you're welcome) | 22:55 |
| DanaG | yay, now pavucontrol takes a dump when I try to launch it. | 22:59 |
| DanaG | a.k.a. Aborted (core dumped). | 22:59 |
| DanaG | Reverse euphemism. | 22:59 |
| DanaG | terminate called after throwing an instance of 'Gtk::IconThemeError' | 23:00 |
| aboSamoor | login manager is not anymore available for karmic ! | 23:00 |
| BUGabundo | Sarvatt: t9 dicionaries. anything? need a PT one | 23:05 |
| Sarvatt | i have no idea, do you need it for the dialer or texting or everywhere? | 23:13 |
| BUGabundo | to text | 23:15 |
| BUGabundo | and IM | 23:16 |
| BUGabundo | with english it SUCKs | 23:16 |
| DanaG | hmmm, when will we get an updated pavucontrol? | 23:17 |
| Sarvatt | BUGabundo: maybe try the "better keyboard" app out? | 23:18 |
| BUGabundo | maybe | 23:18 |
| * BUGabundo searching | 23:19 | |
| Sarvatt | i've got a real keyboard on mine, couldnt pay me to use a G2 lol | 23:19 |
| Sarvatt | oh doesnt look like theres a trial for better keyboard out | 23:19 |
| DanaG | crash! damn pavucontrol! | 23:19 |
| DanaG | Where do I get a newer pavucontrol? | 23:20 |
| DanaG | yargh. | 23:21 |
| DanaG | http://www.mail-archive.com/karmic-changes@lists.ubuntu.com/msg05279.html | 23:22 |
| DanaG | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/+source/pavucontrol | 23:23 |
| DanaG | "published 1 hour ago" | 23:23 |
| DanaG | har. | 23:23 |
| BUGabundo | Sarvatt: its paid :( | 23:28 |
| Sarvatt | whats wrong with your pavucontrol? and why arent you using a stable release if these little things bug you so much? :D | 23:29 |
| DanaG | It needed to be upgraded. | 23:30 |
| DanaG | And the upgrade came out... just 1 hour ago. | 23:30 |
| DanaG | So the mirror had to sync. | 23:30 |
| DanaG | Guess I got the backend (pulseaudio server) update before the frontend (pavucontrol) update. | 23:31 |
| yofel | evening folks | 23:37 |
| DanaG | Wed Aug 5 15:37:32 PDT 2009 | 23:37 |
| BUGabundo | hey yofel | 23:37 |
| yofel | DanaG: well, it's 00:37 am here too, but 'good night' would sound strange :P | 23:38 |
| yofel | hi BUGabundo | 23:38 |
| joebob777as7 | what's the best way to install kde 4.3.0 in karmic? | 23:38 |
| yofel | joebob777as7: just install kde4 like normal, it was updated to 4.3.0 yesterday | 23:38 |
| bcurtiswx | hey, anyone here use Gwibber? | 23:39 |
| joebob777as7 | yofel, cool! | 23:39 |
| joebob777as7 | yofel, what's the package? | 23:41 |
| yofel | joebob777as7: you're running ubuntu? Then you could install 'kubuntu-desktop' | 23:42 |
| joebob777as7 | ok yes thx | 23:42 |
| joebob777as7 | yofel, not kubuntu-kde4-desktop? what's the difference? | 23:43 |
| yofel | joebob777as7: there is no kde3 in ubuntu anymore, so you don't need any kde4 ;) | 23:43 |
| syn-ack | brb | 23:43 |
| * joebob777as7 installing kde4 | 23:44 | |
| dtchen | DanaG: new pavucontrol is in the archive now | 23:45 |
| DanaG | yeah, I saw that when I googled for it there. Thanks. | 23:46 |
| DanaG | I must've simply installed the new PA just before that. | 23:46 |
| dtchen | no, as in it's actually installable from pool now | 23:46 |
| dtchen | it was depwaited on the new libpulse-dev | 23:47 |
| DanaG | Yeah, once I found that link, I also did find it in the pool. | 23:47 |
| DanaG | Oh yeah, now my FreePulse headphones show up with the "unknown" (black box thingy) icon. | 23:47 |
| bjsnider | dtchen, are there any plans to add alsa hardware control to the current volume control applet? | 23:52 |
| dtchen | bjsnider: not that i'm aware, but i'm working at a lower level mostly (not in the gui) | 23:52 |
| bcurtiswx | anyone here use gwibber? | 23:53 |
| aboSamoor | I discovered the following: If you install KDE 4.3 it will overwrite the default display manager setting to KDM. Login to gnome using kdm will fail notify-osd from running and the notification daemon will fail to the one used in 8.10. [Sorry if this seems annoying, because I made a buzz about notify-osd and KDE, but I wanted to share to know your opinion if this seems ok or not ?] | 23:53 |
| DanaG | hmm, I have a USB sound card that has stereo mic in and stereo line in. How do you propose switching between those, with the Gnome thingy? | 23:57 |
| DanaG | As it is, I use alsamixer or gamix. | 23:57 |
| th1 | so, the usplash bug finally got fixed :) | 23:58 |
| th1 | karmic looking set for release | 23:58 |
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