[00:49] <aguynamedryan> Hello?
[00:49] <aguynamedryan> Is anyone around?
[00:51] <BUGabundo> yep
[00:52] <aguynamedryan> Hello!  I have a patch for cpqarrayd, but it looks like the maintainer is associated with debian.  Do I have to do anything special to submit the patch, or do I just tack it onto bug 409060 ?
[00:52] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 409060 in cpqarrayd "cpqarrayd crashes while checking for controllers" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/409060
[00:53] <aguynamedryan> BTW, it's a single-character patch :-)
[00:53] <BUGabundo> no idea
[00:54] <aguynamedryan> Fair enough...I was trying to do the whole "update-maintainer" thing as recommended here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToFix but it seems like a pain in my butt!
[01:11] <Ampelbein> aguynamedryan: where are you stuck with creating a debdiff for the fix?
[01:12] <Ampelbein> aguynamedryan: you can get help in #ubuntu-motu or #ubuntu-devel
[02:06] <hggdh> anyway, I submitted the bug to Debian
[02:13] <bcurtiswx> you rock hggdh
[02:19] <hggdh> thanks, sir. Always glad to help
[06:18] <Mike_lifeguard> How can I let developers know their proposed update introduced regressions?
[07:23] <kees> Mike_lifeguard: generally a package in -proposed will have bug numbers associated with it (in the top changelog entry in /usr/share/doc/$package/changelog.Debian.gz).  I would use one of those bug numbers to report it.  if none exist, "ubuntu-bug $package" would probably be best
[09:51] <Nullslash> OK, I have really wired problem with my CPU Frequency Scaling Monitor. When I put heavy load on my computer, CPU-Frequency reduce the CPU power to 40% only !! . Even if you switched to performance. Should I report a new bug ?
[09:54] <Nullslash> I'm not quite sure if it was hardware or software issue . Because I tried to overload my laptop in Slackware and Fedora, my computer shuts off
[10:21] <eboyjr> Hey the firefox update is bad
[10:21] <eboyjr> well for me at least
[10:30] <davmor2> eboyjr: what's the problem?
[10:31] <eboyjr> davmor2: When I try to start Firefox, I get 'Bus error' in stdout.
[10:31] <eboyjr> And it exits.
[10:51] <eboyjr> davmor2: I am on 64-bit if you needed to know.
[10:51] <davmor2> eboyjr: on jaunty or karmic?
[10:51] <eboyjr> davmor2: The Jauntiest
[10:53] <Nullslash>  OK, I have really wired problem with my CPU Frequency Scaling Monitor. When I put heavy load on my computer, CPU-Frequency reduce the CPU power to 40% only !! . Even if you switched to performance. Should I report a new bug ?
[10:53] <davmor2> eboyjr: it is working fine for me here.  not entirely sure why it's playing up for you.
[10:54] <eboyjr> davmor2: Alright thanks
[10:54] <eboyjr> :(
[12:47] <plars> if a bug is fix-released, then a few weeks later it regresses again, is it more common to open a new bug, or to reopen the old one?
[12:48] <kklimonda> what's up with various applications crashing with signal 5 in _XError() ?
[13:11] <hggdh> kklimonda, sounds like someone coded a trap in it...
[13:11] <hggdh> or in something called by _XError()
[13:12] <kklimonda> hggdh: like in he hated us? ;)
[13:13] <hggdh> :-)
[13:13] <hggdh> are the backtraces top identical?
[13:19] <kklimonda> hggdh: yeah
[13:23] <hggdh> then I guess you will find, at the top, a breakpoint instruction... then we will have to trace back the changes (or follow the code) to find *why*
[13:23] <kklimonda> I've counted over 30 bugs since June with that..
[13:27] <hggdh> kklimonda, perhaps we should really dive in and find the root cause
[13:27] <kklimonda> hggdh: I've asked on -desktop if they know anything about it..
[13:29] <kklimonda> hggdh: in one report seb128 asked about graphic card..
[13:31] <hggdh> it *could* be in the driver code -- a trap left on for some sort of difficult-to-reproduce-error, with the developers waiting for someone to get it
[17:00] <hggdh> pedro_, ping, good morning, etc. What's the status on the mentoring?
[17:01] <pedro_> hggdh, hello, still waiting for the response of charlie and andres
[17:01] <pedro_> hggdh, need to ping them again, otherwise will look for other candidates
[17:01] <pedro_> hggdh, i'll let you know as soon as i got some news about it
[17:05] <hggdh> pedro_, yes, seems both of them are -- rigth now -- MIA for the last few days
[17:06] <pedro_> hggdh, yeap looks like it. well  if you see any on IRC please remind them to check their email ;-)
[17:06] <hggdh> pedro_, will do. I also just replied to your email asking them about it
[17:07] <pedro_> hggdh, great, thanks ;-)
[17:24] <Mike_lifeguard> How can I view the changelog for a -proposed update without installing it?
[17:26] <Mike_lifeguard> I /think/ I want the changelog for libnspr4
[17:26] <bdmurray> Mike_lifeguard: you should be able to that on the launchpad on the package page
[17:26] <Mike_lifeguard> where are the package pages?
[17:28] <bdmurray> https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nspr
[17:28] <Mike_lifeguard> thank you
[17:28] <Mike_lifeguard> oh god, this is confusing :D
[17:28] <bdmurray> nspr is the source package for libnspr4-0d
[17:29] <Mike_lifeguard> yes, looks like libnspr4-0d 4.7.5-0ubuntu0.9.04.1 is what broke things
[17:30] <Mike_lifeguard> or maybe not... this looks totally unrelated to the mouse/trackpad/input in general
[17:36] <Mike_lifeguard> but the other updates look even more unrelated :\
[18:46] <goutham> hello anyone there?
[18:47] <goutham> can anyone help me how do i help in bugsquard?
[18:48] <goutham> hello anyone there?
[18:53] <goutham> can any one help ma
[18:55] <Mike_lifeguard> goutham: please be patient
[18:55] <goutham> ya but for how long?
[18:59] <aguynamedryan> bug 409060
[18:59] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 409060 in cpqarrayd "cpqarrayd crashes while checking for controllers" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/409060
[19:01] <BUGabundo> my android G2 arrived WOOT
[19:02] <Mike_lifeguard> goutham: longer than you were waiting before, obviously
[19:03] <goutham> i am new to debugging so i would be thankful if anyone help me where do i start from
[19:03] <aguynamedryan> I think the best place to start is: is there some package that isn't working for you?
[19:04] <goutham> no
[19:05] <aguynamedryan> Ok.  Are there any types of programs that you are interested in working on, like text editors or sound card drivers, etc?
[19:06] <goutham> editors would be fine to start off with
[19:07] <aguynamedryan> Then I'd check launchpad.net/bugs and see if there are any bugs in pico or some other editor that need fixing
[19:20] <hggdh> aguynamedryan, BTW, thank you for your work there
[19:21] <hggdh> well, well. goutham is already gone...
[19:22] <aguynamedryan> Yeah, goutham had to boogie.  I told him I found you to be a helpful guy
[19:22] <aguynamedryan> Thanks so much for bumping my ticket into debian land!  I really appreciate your help!
[20:26] <aguynamedryan> Where do I go to find out why a package is no longer available in the Ubuntu repos, such as bug 350401
[20:26] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 350401 in ubuntu "libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 missing from repository" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/350401
[20:26] <aguynamedryan> I'm concerned that packages like this one aren't being included for a good reason, and I want to know what that reason is
[20:28] <maxb> those version numbers sound ancient
[20:29] <aguynamedryan> Yes they do!
[20:31] <micahg> aguynamedryan: you can usually look on the overview page for the package
[20:31] <micahg> it should tell you when it was deleted and usually has a debian bug associated with it
[20:31] <aguynamedryan> afk now.  thanks for the tip!
[20:34] <maxb> The removal reason in this case was "old crack" !
[20:34] <maxb> I have duped bug 350401 against bug 185698
[20:34] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 350401 in ubuntu "libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 missing from repository" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/350401
[20:34] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 185698 in gcc-2.95 "Please re-add gcc-2.95 to Hardy" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185698
[20:35] <maxb> aguynamedryan: The reason for not including it is simply that it is ancient and unmaintained
[21:08] <hggdh> has it been orphaned on Debian?
[21:14] <maxb> It exists only in oldstable
[21:17] <aguynamedryan> Sorry to step away at an inopportune time guys.  Thanks for digging up those bugs.  I'd seen 350401 among others, but not the more informative 185698
[21:18] <aguynamedryan> maxb, can you elaborate on what you mean by "oldstable"?  Is that a repo for Ubuntu or is this a Debian thing?
[21:20] <maxb> oldstable is the term for the previous debian stable release
[21:27] <aguynamedryan> Thanks for answering all my noob questions!
[21:28] <maxb> aguynamedryan: I should mention that I would be absolutely shocked if that bug ever gets any attention
[21:29] <aguynamedryan> I'm not holding my breath