[00:15] <bdrung_> asac: finally done (-devscripts).
[00:18] <bdrung_> asac: https://code.launchpad.net/~bdrung/mozilla-devscripts/moz-version/+merge/9672
[00:51] <BUGabundo> fta: http://tools.google.com/chrome/intl/en/themes/index.html themes for chromium. are we getting those packaged?
[00:53] <pace_t_zulu> BUGabundo: why would they need to be packaged? you can apply them right on the page you linked...
[00:53] <BUGabundo> ahh
[00:53] <BUGabundo> LOL
[00:53]  * BUGabundo blinks his eyes very fast
[00:53] <BUGabundo> its 1am
[00:54] <BUGabundo> sleep is a bed condition to test stuff
[00:54] <BUGabundo> plus I saw it with FF
[00:54]  * BUGabundo opens chromium
[00:54] <pace_t_zulu> you mean minefield ? ;)
[00:54] <pace_t_zulu> i know you aren't running a branded firefox
[00:59] <BUGabundo> FF 3.6 daily PPA
[01:00] <pace_t_zulu> BUGabundo: indeed... you've told me before ;)
[01:01] <BUGabundo> I tell it to everyone
[01:11] <fta> BUGabundo, maybe, bot not now, i'm fighting with the chromium locales
[01:11] <BUGabundo> ok
[01:22] <fta> hmm, not sure i should call it chromium-locales, or chromium-l10n, or chromium-browser-l10n
[01:23] <BUGabundo> 18 ?
[01:23] <fta> 10
[01:23] <fta> ten
[01:24] <fta> ok, i guess i'm on my own here. chromium-browser-l10n it will be
[01:28] <micahg> fta: that seems to be the standard
[01:29] <fta> well, not really: mozilla-firefox-locale-ja-jp, thunderbird-locale-ja, openoffice.org-l10n-ja
[01:29] <fta> i wont do 1 deb per lang
[01:30] <micahg> touche there is only 1 package like that
[01:30] <micahg> filelight-l10n
[01:34]  * BUGabundo loves to tell devs about bugs, regression, and watch them say its not their fault
[01:44] <fta> BUGabundo, you'll soon have chromium in pt-PT
[01:48] <maco> as of yesterday, firefox 3.5 crashes  nearly constantly for me. hasn't even finished reloading tabs from the last crash before it crashes next. after closing about 30 tabs so i was down to 80-ish, it stopped, but now im down to 48 and its started up again. i suspect the javascript engine is involved since one of the times itd be when i looked at / clicked soemwhere on a google analytics page
[01:48] <maco> dmesg doesnt say the usual segfault. it says its a trap
[01:48] <maco> anything firefox-related change in karmic in the last couple days?
[01:51] <micahg> nspr was just updated
[01:51] <micahg> and nss
[01:51] <BUGabundo> fta: not that I'll use it
[01:52] <BUGabundo> maco: disable greasemonkey via safemode
[01:52] <fta> BUGabundo, oh, you're not using a localized desktop?
[01:52] <BUGabundo> or what micahg said
[01:52] <BUGabundo> fta: nope. I'm a bad loco users on that! I really should, but I m not
[01:52] <micahg> it could be the new version don't agreee with the new kernel
[01:52] <maco> i have noscript, so greasemonkey cant do much anyway
[01:52] <micahg> I'm ok after I upgraded on jaunty
[01:53] <BUGabundo> never manage to use local languages on software made for english
[01:53] <BUGabundo> maco: believe me , it can
[01:53] <BUGabundo> with ONLY GM I couldn't start FF 3.6
[01:53] <micahg> maco: can you get an apport crash?
[01:53] <BUGabundo> micahg: prob is it doesn't produce one
[01:53] <maco> micahg: apport isnt triggered
[01:53] <micahg> ah
[01:53] <BUGabundo> even debug mode doesn't echo anythign for me
[01:53] <fta> BUGabundo, i don't either, i've been using en_US, i can't stand the translations
[01:53] <micahg> can you run an strace?
[01:53] <maco> all i get is [61654.318706] firefox-3.5[2101] trap int3 ip:7f1adc98a940 sp:7fffd309f9e0 error:0
[01:54] <maco> in dmesg
[01:54] <fta> BUGabundo, +since forever
[01:54] <BUGabundo> fta: I can't stand bad shortcuts and wrong buttons and menu postionsions
[01:54] <BUGabundo> maco: humm that's another bug
[01:54] <BUGabundo> but do try to disable GM
[01:54] <BUGabundo> maybe its similar
[01:55] <micahg> maco: can you run an strace
[01:55] <maco> uh i forget how
[01:55] <micahg> strace -eopen firefox-3.5 2>&1 | tee /tmp/strace_ff.log
[01:56] <maco> er... "strace firefox-3.5" spit a bunch of text then exited then firefox opened
[01:56] <micahg> yeah, you need to see the error output (i.e. 2>&1)
[01:57] <maco> also, it doesnt crash if run in strace
[01:57] <micahg> how do you normally open it?
[01:57] <maco> or at least, this time it finished loading all the tabs without freaking out
[01:57] <maco> type "shiretoko" into krunner
[01:57] <BUGabundo> maco I can make my FF run, if I open safemode once, close it, open regular FF again
[01:57] <micahg> idk
[01:58] <BUGabundo> I still believe it's a run away process some where
[01:59]  * BUGabundo $ mv /home/BUGabundo /dev/bed ; $ echo process delayed. HURRY UP
[10:22] <EruditeHermit> fta: hi
[10:23] <EruditeHermit> fta: I was wondering if I could ask you a favour
[10:23] <EruditeHermit> fta: can you package o3d/scons-out/opt-linux/artifacts/converter/o3dConverter
[10:58]  * asac breaks ... and then starts xul transition
[11:36] <statik> hi asac: patch for you https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/couchdb/+bug/389089
[11:37] <gnomefreak> bug 408862
[12:02] <gnomefreak> !grub2
[12:03] <gnomefreak> its not finding my other drive damnit
[12:25] <gnomefreak> !info firefox-3.5
[12:37] <gnomefreak> asac: do we have an ETA on 3.5 being default in karmic, any plans on removing 3.0 or keeping just incase?
[12:48] <gnomefreak> ls
[13:06] <gnomefreak> !info firefox-3.5
[13:06]  * gnomefreak waits
[13:10] <gnomefreak> my connection better not die again
[13:34] <gnomefreak> asac: im still getting comments on the SM 1.1.17 wondering why its not in repos yet, and asking when it will hit
[14:11] <asac> gnomefreak: sorry. my fault.
[14:11] <gnomefreak> asac: np just reminding you
[14:12] <asac> yeah. really sorry
[14:17] <gnomefreak> ok adding backgrounds they are all scaled you have to change each one to fill screen, it would be great to fill screen by default :(
[14:29] <gnomefreak> !info thunderbird
[14:31] <gnomefreak> seems netbeans is a problem
[14:46] <EruditeHermit> fta: hi
[15:12] <gnomefreak> ok looks like most is set up again
[15:21] <gnomefreak> thunderbird wont migrate thunderbird3 profile will it?
[15:21] <fta> asac, the totem plugin is totally broken in ff3.6
[15:22] <gnomefreak> i know tb3 will copy tb2 profile
[15:23] <fta> right
[15:24] <EruditeHermit> fta: did you get my message from earlier?
[15:26] <fta> hmm
[15:26] <fta> oh, o3dConverter, well, the package sure needs love
[15:28] <fta> but since libCG, i'm unsure
[15:29] <EruditeHermit> did you get a response?
[15:33] <EruditeHermit> fta: even with Cg, your PPA is very useful to me so please build it anyway =p
[15:33] <EruditeHermit> i'll do my best to get them to use GLSL
[16:37] <fta> tar -C build-tree  -x --lzma -f chromium-browser-3.0.198.0~svn20090805r22475-source.tar.lzma
[16:37] <fta> tar: unrecognized option `--lzma'
[16:37] <fta> damn, hardy's tar is too old
[17:07] <asac> fta: was it get-curr-source or get-current-source we wanted to use?
[17:08] <fta> asac, get-current-source
[17:08] <fta> i have it in most of the packages
[17:08] <asac> great
[17:08] <fta> including m-d
[17:08] <asac> we currently make network manager pcakages right
[17:08] <fta> good
[17:08] <asac> fta: you think we could add that to your ppa bot? or do we need to run our own?
[17:09] <fta> asac, if you trust all the branch committers, i can take it
[17:10] <fta> but i will get the commit logs :P
[17:10] <asac> fta: ok. i will review who we have in the team and clean it up
[17:23] <fta> EruditeHermit, http://paste.ubuntu.com/248090/ is that what you want?
[17:23] <EruditeHermit> fta: I think so
[17:23] <EruditeHermit> I'll let you know if it works
[17:24] <EruditeHermit> once its packaged
[17:25] <EruditeHermit> fta: is it currently building?
[17:28] <fta> EruditeHermit, no, but the packaging is ready http://paste.ubuntu.com/248099/
[17:29] <EruditeHermit> fta: so it will build tomorrow?
[17:29] <fta> probably later today, once the builders are less crowded
[17:31] <EruditeHermit> ok
[17:31] <EruditeHermit> i'll test once its there
[17:31] <EruditeHermit> thanks =)
[17:35] <fta> asac, baaaad: http://paste.ubuntu.com/248102/
[17:38] <andv> asac, are you ok with merging all-in-one-sidebar.ubuntu
[17:38] <andv> from https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~kvilhaugsvik/firefox-extensions/all-in-one-sidebar.ubuntu
[17:38] <andv> to
[17:38] <andv> https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-dev/firefox-extensions/all-in-one-sidebar.ubuntu
[17:39] <andv> the ubuntu-dev one is the one you maintain I guess
[17:39] <andv> I just pushed the latest update made by kvil
[17:39] <andv> so if it's ok for you to merge them
[17:39] <andv> just tell me ok
[17:39] <andv> and it will be done
[17:41] <fta> asac, hmm, bug 399938
[17:48] <asac> fta: we just talked to james
[17:49] <fta> asac, just added a comment in that bug
[17:49] <asac> about get-orig-source .... so seems get-current-source will not be added to bzr builddeb, but now he knows that get-orig-source isnt policy compliant as its now
[17:49] <andv> asac, so?
[17:49] <asac> i suggested to use --policy-compliant=no|yes (no by default for a while to make a smooth transition)
[17:49] <asac> and plicy-compliant not running get-orig-source
[17:50] <micahg> asac: could you look at bug 408238 when you get a chance
[17:50] <asac> fta: do you expect the orig source to be placed somewhere ? in policy it says it should be dumped into $(CURDIR)
[17:50] <asac> fta: can the bot handle that?
[17:50] <asac> andv: please do a merge request. i am currently at a sprint and probably wont have time to do that until next week
[17:51] <fta> asac, the bot runs ./debian/rules get-orig-source, then move ./*orig.tar.gz to ../tarballs
[17:51] <asac> andv: is that early enough? if you ask for a merge i should get a mail which hopefully will make this stay on my radar until then
[17:51] <fta> moveS
[17:51] <asac> fta: ok that sounds like $(CURDIR)/*orig.tar.gz is working
[17:51] <andv> asac, I didnt ask for a merge request
[17:51] <andv> asac, kvil did
[17:52] <fta> asac, yes
[17:52] <asac> o
[17:52] <andv> asac, he takes care of the all in package
[17:52] <asac> fta: perfect
[17:52] <andv> asac, you updated it on 2008 last time
[17:52] <andv> asac, he made a new upstream release and fixed some stuff
[17:52] <andv> I gonna merge it into your branch, is that ok?
[17:53] <andv> or do you want me to assign you a review as well?
[17:53] <asac> andv: i didnt review it yet
[17:53] <asac> andv: did he does it properly?
[17:53] <andv> asac, yes, the package built/installed and worked fine on karm
[17:53] <andv> asac, anyway I gonna add you as reviewer
[17:53] <andv> you'll receive a mail
[17:53] <andv> for review
[17:54] <fta> asac, i'm considering adding a pref to use a user specific target name for that, the default will be get-orig-source
[17:54] <asac> andv: yeah. thanks! basically we need to check that he properly used a merge to get new upstream stuff instead of just updating the files in-ubuntu-tree
[17:54] <andv> done in a sec
[17:54] <asac> fta: we agreed that get-orig-source is probably right as we use it now ... so we will use it for NM and friends
[17:55] <asac> for now and just accept that bzr bd doesnt work
[17:55] <fta> asac, but i'm not sure if it should be per pocket, or per package
[17:55] <asac> (as comfortable as before)
[17:55] <fta> asac, ok, good
[17:55] <andv> asac, done
[17:55] <asac> fta: i think such a pref should be in rules to avoid that question
[17:55] <asac> (if we do a pref at all)
[17:55] <asac> fta: i will think abit about it .... having bzr bd automatically getting the right thing is quite sexy too
[17:56] <asac> but i think we can live with it for now
[17:56] <fta> the debian policy is not really clear about what get-orig-source should get, hence the confusion
[17:56] <asac> jdstrand: so i think we can skip the karmic publishing for 1.9.1 and 3.5 .... i need to upload ubuntu2 now
[17:57] <asac> jdstrand: do we want to do jaunty now or rather tomorrow morning?
[17:57] <fta> asac, someone should probably update ia32-libs for hardy..jaunty for nss
[17:59] <fta> this gzip issue is getting on my nerves, i'm stuck because of it
[18:04] <asac> fta: hmm. wanna do that ;)?
[18:04] <asac> fta: we can shove it into -security ppa i guess
[18:05] <fta> i can't test, i only have karmic
[18:05] <fta> hm, could be a good thing:  http://arstechnica.com/media/news/2009/08/google-may-take-aim-at-web-video-standards-with-on2-purchase.ars
[18:06] <asac> fta: ok. i will check if security team can do it. otherwise getting it staged somewhere without testing (should be pretty minimal the change) would be ok i guess and i can take it over from there
[18:07] <asac> ok let me start the xulrunner transition so i finally get over the point of no return
[18:07] <fta> there's also png, and probably more stuff too :P
[18:08] <jdstrand> asac: I can do it right now if you are satisfied with the testing
[18:08] <jdstrand> asac: if you need me to test, I can do it tomorrow
[18:09] <asac> jdstrand: i couldnt test it and since i forgot the ffox bits i think we should wait till tomorrow morning so users have at least 36hours to complain ... i can also then test on my netbook too
[18:09] <asac> gone ;)
[18:09] <asac> jdstrand_: ^^ ... still there?
[18:10] <jdstrand_> asac: I am not gone
[18:11] <asac> jdstrand_: good. so tomorrow morning it is
[18:11] <jdstrand_> asac: tomorrow sounds fine
[18:12] <asac> jdstrand_: ok. but you could copy the firefox-3.5 from karmic (not xulrunner 1.9.1 which i just uploaded directly)
[18:12] <asac> is that ok? i can also upload ... just saw that bandwidth seems to be really good atm
[18:14] <micahg> asac: I'll test 3.5.2 on Jaunty
[18:14] <micahg> or at least use it
[18:14] <jdstrand_> asac: no, I'll do it right now
[18:21] <jdstrand_> asac: ok I copied it. I missed the xl191 comment, but looking at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xulrunner-1.9.1 your  1.9.1.2+nobinonly-0ubuntu2
[18:21] <jdstrand_> upload is still shown as Pending
[18:21] <jdstrand_> (ie LP ignored me)
[18:22] <jdstrand_> asac: I'll check back on it later to be doubly sure, but I'm off for now
[18:22] <asac> jdstrand_: ok thanks.
[18:22] <asac> jdstrand_: the xul version i uploaded is higher than the one in the ppa ... so its normal that it doesnt show up
[18:37] <fta> debian 403970
[18:39] <asac> fta: hmm. thats the bzr builddeb breaks gzip thing?
[18:39] <fta> no
[18:39] <asac> or is that something new?
[18:39] <fta> debian 538187
[18:39] <fta> i just want the urls
[18:40] <asac> atexit?
[18:40] <asac> dirty
[18:45] <asac> jdstrand_: what do you think about nss/nspr ia32-libs update?
[18:46] <asac> i guess it should be ok to put that in -security ppa ...
[18:46] <asac> anyway ... lets discuss that tomorrow or if we bump into each other later today
[18:46] <asac> ok eod ... going up and then getting food and friends
[18:57] <asac> fta: can you kick off another xul 1.9.1 daily?
[18:57] <asac> or did todays build already catch the default transition?
[18:57]  * asac checks
[19:01] <BUGabundo> my android G2 arrived WOOT
[19:01] <e-jat> BUGabundo: how was it?
[19:02] <BUGabundo> was?
[19:03] <BUGabundo> I hope it lasts!
[19:03] <BUGabundo> LOL
[19:15] <asac> fta: ok cool. the daily already has the transition part. no action needed. false alert
[19:15] <asac> cu later folks
[19:16] <BUGabundo> hey asac
[21:39] <fta> mozilla 508427
[23:05] <fta> EruditeHermit, o3d's ready