[00:00] <dumont> HELP ^
[00:00] <Sahdos> rodimus:  I can enable desktop effects on my system, but it freezes.  still want to try?
[00:00] <tomoyuki28jp> I want to install newer version of sbcl with apt-get. How can I find such repository to add?
[00:00] <georgefrs> Mango: this might help, http://dlc.sun.com/osol/docs/content/dev/getstart/linuxgrub.html
[00:00] <Syron4> georgefrs, 64-bit is recommended for virtualbox? why is that?
[00:00] <Drained> oh well kalisto_ i give up.
[00:00] <Kalisto_> same issue?
[00:01] <Drained> yeah no diffrence.
[00:01] <Drained> ive got to get going tho so that's as far as i can put up for ubuntu for today.
[00:01] <Mango> georgefrs: I can't access the page: "Your client is not allowed to access the requested object. "
[00:01] <skorasaurus> Sahdos, i'm trying out chromium right now. i'd rather not have to change browser from firefox. and this problem just started this afternoon, for no apparent reason.
[00:01] <Kalisto_> Drained, ok sorry i could not be more help
[00:01] <Mango> georgefrs: do you work for sun or what?
[00:01] <Drained> it's ok
[00:01] <dumont> I'm trying to install fluxbox, or some other application but I keep getting the same error for all installs - "Package acpid is not configured yet"
[00:02] <lstarnes> Syron4: because virtualbox can't run 64-bit guest systems without the host system being 64-bit
[00:02] <dumont> can someone help me figure it out?
[00:02] <Sahdos> skorasaurus:  I would rather you not have to change browsers, but the problem is strange.  maybe if it works in chrome it will shed some light on the problem.
[00:02] <Syron4> lstarnes, there is no stability increase?
[00:02] <georgefrs> Syron4: Virtualisation is one of the applications that gets a performance boost from 64-bit cpus
[00:02] <subverso> hello
[00:02] <Mango> georgefrs: I can access it now O_o!
[00:03] <Syron4> ah okay. guess that will settle my plan
[00:03] <dumont> I'm trying to install fluxbox, or some other application but I keep getting the same error for all installs - "Package acpid is not configured yet"
[00:03] <skorasaurus> Sahdos, k. thanks, i've did a bit of searching on launchpad, found no bugs similar to this, and have the most updated version of firefox, 3.0.12 for jaunty.
[00:03] <server_side> is there a gui that deals with file perms and other terminal based stuff?
[00:03] <lstarnes> Syron4: there may be some stability differences
[00:03] <georgefrs> Mango: Nope, don't work for sun :D
[00:03] <Sahdos> skorasaurus:  any links that might shed some light on the problem?
[00:03] <subverso> anyone could help me with wacom configuration? I lost my calibration everytime I reboot or restart a new session...
[00:03] <Sahdos> skorasaurus:  I'm using Jaunty too.  Never had this problem.
[00:04] <Sahdos> skorasaurus:  have you changed anything that might be connected to the problem?  how does the site appear without text?  graphics works okay?
[00:05] <Mango> georgefrs: Mandriva is installed on this partition: /dev/sda5 so it's in root (hd0, 5)
[00:05] <Sahdos> georgefrs:  I thought the benefits of 64bit cpus was the increased memory allocation, and that's about it.
[00:05] <Mango> georgefrs: right?
[00:05] <skorasaurus> graphics are fine. i didn't change anything besides update a couple of extensions (don't remember which ones exactly) through the firefox updater, but I disabled all my add-ons and the prob still occured.
[00:05] <georgefrs> Mango: Odd you can't access the page, works for me. Try this one instead: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[00:05] <skorasaurus> i also tried different browsers too (flock, galeon)
[00:05] <Sahdos> skorasaurus:  every page you visit has no text?
[00:05] <georgefrs> Sahdos: The longer instruction length also leads to better performance in floating point operation heavy code
[00:05] <lstarnes> Sahdos: some operations on larger numbers also become faster
[00:06] <rodimus> can someone help me get desktop effects enabled in ubuntu 9.04
[00:06] <rodimus> ?
[00:06] <subverso> wacom help?!
[00:06] <skorasaurus> Sahdos, not every one. just some. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[00:06] <skorasaurus> !desktop-effects
[00:06] <georgefrs> Mango: (hd0,4)
[00:06] <skorasaurus> !desktopeffects
[00:06] <skorasaurus> !effects
[00:06] <jonathank89> hey guys, i've got this really weird bug that stops me from shutting down or restarting from the user agent switcher (the thing in the top right that says your name), when i click either of them it brings me to the 60s confirmation window and just does nothing... but if it press the power button on my laptop it brings up all the options and works fine.
[00:06] <georgefrs> Mango: grub inconveniently begins counting paritions from 0, not 1
[00:07] <dumont> HELP PLEASE! why can't I install vnstat? http://pastebin.com/m474431cb
[00:07] <skorasaurus> jonathank89, 60s confirmation window, what is that ?
[00:07] <lstarnes> Sahdos: accessing a number larger than 2^32 on a 32-bit system is more complex because 32-bit systems only natively support values smaller than 2^32.  Larger values require additional operations
[00:08] <lstarnes> dumont: you have no /proc/acpi/event
[00:08] <lstarnes> dumont: make sure you don't have acpi disabled
[00:08] <Sahdos> lstarnes:  thank you
[00:08] <dumont> lstarnes how do I do that?
[00:08] <jonathank89> skorasaurus, you know when you go to shutdown it pops up the little window that says "the computer will shut down in 60 seconds" and you click shutdown.
[00:08] <lstarnes> dumont: I don't remember
[00:08] <dumont> wtf?
[00:09] <dumont> I can't install anything, and this is all the help I get?
[00:09] <skorasaurus> Sahdos, I don't have any problems yet on chromium.
[00:09] <Sahdos> rodimus:  everything I say is a lie
[00:09] <Sahdos> rodimus:  I am telling the truth
[00:09] <deexannihilate> dumont: what's the problem?
[00:09] <skorasaurus> dumont, sorry, it's a very busy channel, and may take some time for someone to help you.
[00:09] <jonathank89> so can anyone help me with my shutdown problem?
[00:09] <Sahdos> skorasaurus:  pattern with sites that aren't displaying text?
[00:10] <rodimus> shados: ok
[00:10] <lstarnes> dumont: it may be disabled if "noacpi" appears in /proc/cmdline
[00:10] <Sahdos> rodimus:  do you have the "AccelMethod" "UXA" in your xorg.conf file?
[00:11] <rodimus> Sahdos, im not sure, why
[00:11] <Sahdos> rodimus:  I needed to add "AccelMethod" "UXA" to my xorg.conf file for compiz desktop effects to work
[00:12] <dumont> lstarnes the only thing in that file is "auto BOOT_IMAGE=linux ro root=801
[00:12] <dumont> "
[00:12] <Sahdos> !effects
[00:12] <maribel> Hello, I upgraded to KDE 4.3 and now all the system is broken. I think I got a workaround, but I need to apt-get to access the Internet but even that is broken over here. I have my computer wired to the router and I have disabled NetworkManager, but when I run `sudo ifup eth0`, I get this error: Ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0. WHat can I do to enable eth0 via the command line?
[00:12] <skorasaurus> jonathank89, have you upgraded anything recently ?
[00:12] <Sahdos> I must have an Intel 965
[00:12] <rodimus> Sahdos, tell me more
[00:12] <Sahdos> rodimus:  why?
[00:13] <georgefrs> maribel: have you tried 'ifconfig eth0 up' ?
[00:13] <skorasaurus> Sahdos, firefox's error console "displays Warning: Error in parsing value for property 'filter'."
[00:13] <server_side> can i make ubuntu boot faster?
[00:13] <dumont> lstarnes the only thing in that file is "auto BOOT_IMAGE=linux ro root=801"
[00:14] <skorasaurus> jonathank89, sorry I cannot help out, I'm getting busy. good luck.
[00:14] <jonathank89> skorasaurus, well there where a couple of updates i installed...but i can't really remember what they where...
[00:14] <lstarnes> dumont: what do you have in /etc/acpi?
[00:14] <lstarnes> dumont: oops, /proc/acpi
[00:14] <beau> I can't remember, what's the quick way to open terminal.. like via hotkey?
[00:14] <georgefrs> If your graphics card is blacklisted from desktop-effects you can turn them back on again by removing the blacklist (at your own risk of course). I did it when I had an intel 965 and it worked alright
[00:15] <Sahdos> skorasaurus:  I have that error message "declaration dropped"
[00:15] <Sahdos> skorasaurus:  what sites aren't displaying text?
[00:15] <bloodrock> dumont,  try this in terminal  sudo /etc/init.d/acpid stop then this sudo dpkg --configure -a
[00:15] <dumont> .   alarm                power_resource  thermal_zone
[00:15] <dumont> ..  embedded_controller  processor       wakeup
[00:15] <maribel> georgefrs: THanks, unfortunately it doesn't work either :( I get no output and I cannot connect to the Internet
[00:15] <skorasaurus> Sahdos, facebook.com ; http://twitter.com/askcbi
[00:15] <dumont> Stopping ACPI services...                                             [ OK ]
[00:16] <skorasaurus> Sahdos, also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[00:16] <dumont> http://pastebin.com/m2c19ac93
[00:16] <lstarnes> beau: I don't think there's a default setting for it, but you could check system > preferences > keyboard shortcuts
[00:16] <skorasaurus> jonathank89, this may be related to your problem. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24/+bug/244405
[00:16] <dumont> when i run this sudo dpkg --configure -a i get http://pastebin.com/m2c19ac93
[00:16] <georgefrs> maribel: :( ... you might need to run that command as sudo
[00:16] <georgefrs> maribel: what is the output of running 'ifconfig' on its own?
[00:16] <skorasaurus> jonathank89, I would try to see if you have the same problem with a different kernel.
[00:17] <maribel> georgefrs: I did it as sudo and got no output
[00:17] <georgefrs> maribel: The command outputs absoloutely nothing? hm...
[00:17] <beau> lstarnes: what would the command be to open terminal if I were to make my own shortcut?
[00:18] <maribel> georgefrs: exactly, I got nothing
[00:18] <lstarnes> beau: gnome-terminal
[00:18] <georgefrs> maribel: What happens when you run 'sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart'
[00:18] <lstarnes> beau: unless you aren't using gnome
[00:18] <Chessguy> when i try to put my laptop to sleep, it won't wake up, the power light turns green, but the screen stays blank and i don't see the cpu light blinking. Any idea why?
[00:18] <beau> lstarnes: I am, ubuntu 9.04
[00:19] <Sahdos> skorasaurus: in the firefox error console do you get the warning on facebook and help.ubuntu.com/community/reportingbugs?
[00:19] <beau> lstarnes: Thank you, that works great
[00:19] <Sahdos> skorasaurus:  have you added any add ons that alter about:config in firefox?
[00:19] <dumont> when i run this "sudo dpkg --configure -a" i get http://pastebin.com/m2c19ac93 why? how can I fix it?
[00:19] <Casey> what is the command for copying a folder
[00:19] <DeSian> whois the xkboption in ubuntu in which file because /etc/X11/xorg.conf' is empty!?
[00:20] <bloodrock> dumont, what did you upgrade from and to
[00:20] <maribel> georgefrs: Ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0 :(
[00:20] <zeke> hi all =)
[00:20] <Casey> hi
[00:20] <spO> what are some programs to help configure Xwin?   i need some help trying to find resolutiosn or screen sizes so that i do not have overscan (a black border) around my desktop when using my hdtv as a monitor
[00:21] <Casey> what is the command for copying a folder?
[00:21] <lstarnes> Casey: cp -r
[00:21] <Casey> ok
[00:21] <Casey> how do i type it/
[00:21] <zeke> does anyone in here use irssi?
[00:21] <skorasaurus> Sahdos: interesting. i find that intl.charsetmenu.browser.cache was user.set to a blank value.
[00:21] <spO> casey, you go to terminaal or console
[00:21] <spO> you load up a terminal
[00:21] <skorasaurus> Sahdos, this is in about:config
[00:21] <Casey> i know
[00:21] <lstarnes> Casey: cp -r source-dir target-dir
[00:21] <Casey> ok
[00:21] <Casey> ty
[00:22] <Jigawho> Jigawho ubuntu up n diz shizzle wid muh jigaboo   muh dik
[00:22] <lstarnes> zeke: I do; why do you ask?
[00:22] <spO> casey, or you can use dolipin, that is the most widely used animal/file explorer
[00:22] <georgefrs> maribel: perhaps take a look inside /etc/network/interfaces
[00:22] <Sahdos> skorasaurus:  let me check mine
[00:22] <Jigawho> Jigawho ubuntu up n diz shizzle wid muh jigaboo   muh dik
[00:22] <spO> off to the car tracks// to get some food --- off to the freways
[00:22] <Jigawho> muh dik
[00:22] <Jigawho> mo on dis nigga's mind
[00:22] <Jigawho> muh dik
[00:22] <Jigawho> malt lika
[00:22] <zeke> lstarnes: I see, i just want to know how to change to ssl, +7000
[00:22] <Jigawho> fry chikens
[00:22] <Jigawho> waddymelons
[00:23] <FloodBot2> Jigawho: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:23] <libtech> Jigawho | offtopic!
[00:23] <maribel> georgefrs: There was just "lo", no eth0, no wlan0. I added "auto eth0" and restarted networking, but nothing changes
[00:23] <lstarnes> zeke: /connect -ssl servername port
[00:23] <Sahdos> skorasaurus:  my value is:  us-ascii, windows-1252, ISO-8859-1, UTF-8
[00:23] <zeke> ty so much mate ^^
[00:23] <Jigawho> Ubuntu be raycis n sheiittt!
[00:23] <lstarnes> zeke: just remember that many networks don't have ssl, and the port used for ir varies
[00:23] <zeke> i know
[00:23] <zeke> =)
[00:23] <Chessguy> when i try to put my laptop to sleep, it won't wake up, the power light turns green, but the screen stays blank and i don't see the cpu light blinking. Any idea why?
[00:24] <dumont> bloodrock I don't know, i was trying to install a bunch of stuff
[00:24] <Sahdos> I'm getting tired of webpages with white backgrounds
[00:24] <subverso> wacom users??!
[00:24] <Jigawho> ize be outta hea raycis muggafuggas
[00:24] <georgefrs> maribel: the only other thing I can think is that the module for your network adapter hasn't been loaded. Try 'sudo modprobe module_name'
[00:24] <Sahdos> Jigawho:  how?
[00:24] <gogeta> Chessguy: some devices dont like sleep mode
[00:24] <g073nks> question, is there a way to specify irq used by my wireless NIC other then bios?
[00:24] <Sahdos> Jigawho:  #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:24] <Sahdos> !offtopic
[00:24] <Chessguy> gogeta: so there's nothing i can do
[00:25] <bloodrock> dub, try this link may help https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/acpid/+bug/63450
[00:25] <georgefrs> maribel: where module_name is the correct module for your NIC. 'lspci' will tell you what your network adapter is
[00:25] <gogeta> Chessguy: try it from a fresh start and see it it wakes up
[00:25] <Jigawho> nobody be teachin muh bitch hao 2 use internet expoer fo she myspace n sheiit!
[00:25] <bloodrock> dumont, try this link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/acpid/+bug/63450
[00:25] <Jigawho> who no how 2 do dat?
[00:25] <Sahdos> !offtopic
[00:25] <baazil1> anyone help with Plesk 9.2 Mail Server Settings?
[00:25] <Chessguy> gogeta: i can power it off and then restart it, that what you mean by a "fresh start" ?
[00:26] <richardcavell> Oh God someone get rid of Jiga
[00:26] <richardcavell> !ops | Jigawho
[00:26] <gogeta> Chessguy: yea
[00:26] <Jigawho> ize needs 2 no hao 2 youse internet explorer n ubuntu
[00:26] <dumont> bloodrock but I don't have hald, i tried killall hald, it said no hald processes killed
[00:26] <Jigawho> If you are sick of niggerbabble like this, then join http://www.chimpout.com/forum
[00:26] <Chessguy> gogeta: well that works fine, just wondering if it was something i was doing
[00:26] <dumont> hald: no process killed
[00:26] <gogeta> Chessguy: then sleep it and see it wakes up
[00:26] <Chessguy> thanks jrib
[00:26] <Chessguy> ok
[00:27] <maribel> georgefrs: It's already loaded according to `lsmod`. I try `sudo modprobe tg3` and nothing changes anyway :(
[00:27] <Sahdos> thanks richardcavell
[00:27] <richardcavell> Sahdos: np
[00:27] <bloodrock> dumont, which ubuntu are you using
[00:28] <skorasaurus> Sahdos, shucks: after modify that, I still have the same problem :(
[00:28] <dumont> 8.04
[00:28] <baazil1> anyone help with Plesk 9.2 Mail Server Settings?
[00:28] <Chessguy> gogeta: nope nothing
[00:28] <gogeta> maribel: if your talking abought wireless you may need to usew ndiswrapper
[00:28] <dumont> 8.04.1
[00:28] <Chessguy> gogeta: the power light is on, no cpu indication
[00:29] <Sahdos> skorasaurus:  in the error console does facebook show up under the errors tab?
[00:29] <gogeta> Chessguy: not mutch you can do abought it then
[00:29] <Chessguy> dman
[00:29] <Chessguy> damn
[00:29] <Sahdos> skorasaurus:  I would think text not displaying would show up in the error section of the error console...not just a warning
[00:29] <bloodrock> dumont,  have you tryed uninstalling ubuntu-desktop and reinstalling via apt-get
[00:30] <Sahdos> skorasaurus: you could try uninstalling firefox as a last resort
[00:30] <maribel> gogeta: I'm trying to use my ethernet card. I just upgraded to KDE 4.3 and the "upgrade" broke not only KDE, but also my networking.
[00:30] <dumont> how do I uninstall ubuntu-desktop?
[00:30] <mdg> hi gogeta
[00:30] <gogeta> maribel: outch
[00:30] <skorasaurus> Sahdos, i received a bunch of errors in my firefox, when i started it in the commandline, i think it will help.
[00:30] <gogeta> mdg hi
[00:30] <pkhan> does anyone know why this: urxvt -e 'cd ~/;screen' results in the window opening for just a second and then closing?
[00:31] <skorasaurus> (help troubleshoot my problem)
[00:31] <bloodrock> dum apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop
[00:31] <georgefrs> maribel: In /etc/network/interfaces try putting 'iface eth0 inet dhcp' and then running 'sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart'
[00:31] <gogeta> mdg: you didnt brake it again did you
[00:31] <mdg> gogeta: can you give any extra advice on installing eeebuntu on acer aspire?
[00:31] <centinul> How would I go about getting HDMI Audio Out working on Jaunty?
[00:31] <nicklas_> yo
[00:31] <Sahdos> skorasaurus:  what kind of errors?  I get none when I start firefox from commandline (unusual for me)
[00:31] <gogeta> mdg: use unetbooting to put it on a usb stick or sd card and boot off that easy as that
[00:32] <dumont> bloodrock i get http://pastebin.com/m60c9922
[00:32] <gogeta> mdg: unless you have a usb cdrom you can use
[00:32] <mdg> gogeta: any advice on size of flash drive/kind?
[00:32] <skorasaurus> it has to do with pango - some program with font displaying, i think.
[00:32] <gogeta> mdg: 1gb is plenty for a installer
[00:32] <earthen> anyone know of a good desktop calender that i can sync with google calender
[00:32] <Sahdos> !pango
[00:32] <skorasaurus> i installed some new fonts yesterday, but i've installed fonts in the past, so i'm surprised that may be the problem.
[00:32] <mdg> gogeta: can I ask - how well does eeebunut work on Dell netbooks?
[00:33] <skorasaurus> Sahdos, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1160628
[00:33] <gogeta> mdg: donno abought dells
[00:33] <maribel> georgefrs: This time I don't get an error message, but still cannot access to the internet. I run `ping www.google.com' and I get: ping unknown host www.google.com
[00:33] <gogeta> mdg: but most netbooks use the  same hardware
[00:33] <mdg> gogeta: okay.  thanks for the great advice - will tell my friend when she comes here
[00:33] <burkmat> dumont, It's quite annoying uninstalling ubuntu-desktop. I went the path of removing all listed packages in the metapackage on my test server, but that removed a whole bunch of packages I didn't want gone (Ubuntu server which I added desktop to but changed my mind). Now I don't trust it enough to even put on the LAN... So be careful.
[00:34] <gogeta> mdg: thee array.org kernel eeebuntu uses covers most netbooks
[00:34] <Sahdos> skorasaurus:  did you say Arora didn't work for you?
[00:34] <maribel> georgefrs: well, not only the internet; I cannot ping other hosts in my home network
[00:34] <skorasaurus> the browser ?
[00:34] <georgefrs> maribel: 'sudo dhclient eth0' ?
[00:35] <gogeta> mdg: nearly all netbooks use atoms and intel gma hardware
[00:35] <dumont> burkmat I'm just trying to install ANYTHING like fluxbox and vnstat for my dedibox, but I keep getting this shitty error :( all the time it's acpi not configured, wtf :(
[00:35] <mdg> gogeta: there was a guy here last night who was having trouble with his Dell Mini 9, who I was trying to help
[00:35] <georgefrs> maribel: does 'ifconfig' output anything more interesting now?
[00:35] <gogeta> mdg: lemmie guess wifi bugs
[00:35] <gogeta> lol
[00:35] <mdg> gogeta: part of his issue was wifi, but he got a 4 gig SSD, which made things tough
[00:36] <mdg> deexannihilate: hi!
[00:36] <Armageddon> how do i install a 32bit .deb package on a 64bit Ubuntu using dpkg ?
[00:36] <deexannihilate> mdg: hello
[00:36] <Sahdos> skorasaurus:  yeah
[00:36] <gogeta> mdg: eebuntu base edtion is good for small ssds
[00:36] <maribel> georgefrs: I'll run it in a moment. I've just run "sudo ifup eth0" and now I'm getting a bunch of lines that read: DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval X ---- where X is a number (so far 3, 6, 15 and 20)
[00:36] <gogeta> mdg: lets you install what you need
[00:36] <centinul> How would I go about getting Nvidia HDMI Audio out working on Junaty?
[00:36] <bloodrock> dumont,  you got your home folder on a seperate partitian
[00:37] <unixbocx> hello, need to retest a website, unixbocx.kicks-ass.net , is it up for you all
[00:37] <dumont> i think all this trouble started when I was upgrading via apt-get upgrade, and I got this somewhere along in the upgrade http://pastebin.com/m4dd5fc93
[00:37] <gogeta> mdg: if he gots a spare sd card he can make a lvm setup to expand is storage as well
[00:37] <deexannihilate> mdg: so, I used it today at Bruegger's and it had a 58/100 connection and never once disconnected in the two hours I was there
[00:37] <mdg> deexannihilate:  I don't know if this is good news or bad since you installed twice yesterday, but gogeta says that eeebuntu works way better than wifi, etc.
[00:37] <Sahdos> skorasaurus:  never heard of Arora, but Sirebral, in the link you sent, said it doesn't have the problem
[00:37] <maribel> georgefrs: Nevermind. I just got "No DHCPOFFERS received. No working leases in persistent database - sleeping". I'll try the other commands...
[00:37] <deexannihilate> mdg: so, I don't know if it is permanently fixed because you're awesome or if the other two connects are just bad.
[00:37] <dumont> bloodrock the install is hours fresh, home folder is on the same partition as root
[00:37] <georgefrs> maribel: thats good, that should have the same effect as running 'sudo dhclient eth0', request an IP address from your dhcp server
[00:37] <mdg> deexannihilate: can you connect a home wirelessly?
[00:37] <g073nks> anyone, is there a way to manage irq's via the OS?
[00:38] <deexannihilate> mdg: i'll check
[00:38] <gogeta> deexannihilate: the disconnects are randoom sometimes it whont at all sometimes it whont quit
[00:38] <g073nks> i think that's the reason my wireless network card isn't working
[00:38] <bloodrock> dumont,  then prob best to just do a complete reinstall
[00:38] <mdg> gogeta: deexannihilate lost the ability to plug in an ethernet cable - it just would not work, was that ever a problem in eeebuntu?
[00:38] <Armageddon> how do i install a 32bit .deb package on a 64bit Ubuntu using dpkg ? i found it somewhere on the internet, to install Flash Player on a 64bit ubuntu ! any help ?
[00:38] <unixbocx> can someone see if my website is up and running, unixbocx.kicks-ass.net
[00:38] <gogeta> mdg: not on my 900a no
[00:39] <georgefrs> maribel: hm, I need to improve my typing speed :) Sounds like you are having a problem getting an IP address from your router
[00:39] <aaroninfidel> After I use computer-janitor and remove all proposed packages. It remove all AIR applications (from /opt) and remove Adobe AIR. When a install Adobe AIR 1.5 i see: An error occurred while installing Adobe AIR. Installation may not be allowed by your administrator. Please contact your administrator.  any idea why this might be?
[00:39] <burkmat> unixbocx, I get a large header and a background, if that's your website then it's accessible. :P
[00:39] <Sahdos> skorasaurus:  have you tried dmesg after starting firefox?
[00:39] <gogeta> mdg: the aspire one is listed as fuy working on eeebuntu as well as the mini 9 and 10
[00:39] <mdg> gogeta: :) you just made me smile
[00:39] <unixbocx> ok burkmat, a friend using safari counld access it
[00:40] <unixbocx> couldn't
[00:40] <mdg> deexannihilate: what do you think?
[00:40] <burkmat> aaroninfidel, Are you running as root?
[00:40] <skorasaurus> Sahdos, i think i found the problem, and how to fix it.
[00:40] <mdg> styol: hey, hows it going?
[00:40] <maribel> georgefrs: I don't know what happened, but I tried to fix it the Windows way and it worked :) (this is, I rebooted the computer). Thank you very, very, very much!!
[00:40] <unixbocx> So my ubuntu server is running ok then
[00:40] <skorasaurus> Sahdos, i'm trying that out now.
[00:40] <dumont> bloodrock i'd rather not reinstal!
[00:41] <mbrigdan> Anyone know how I can get fail2ban to stop sending emails on start/stop ?
[00:41] <bloodrock> dumont,  dunno of any better way to fix the prob you have
[00:41] <georgefrs> maribel: Glad it got sorted :D If all else fails turn it off and on again.... :)
[00:41] <StrangeCharm> setting up a box to host virtual machines, what directory is most appropriate to put the vm images?
[00:41] <aaroninfidel> burkmat: I've tried both user and sudo.
[00:41] <styol> mdg it ended up failing :( ran out of space
[00:42] <mdg> styol: gogeta recommends eeebuntu - base
[00:42] <unixbocx> /var/www worked for me strange
[00:42] <styol> yeah? and not UNR?
[00:42] <georgefrs> StrangeCharm: VMware server puts them in /var ... seems as good a place as any
[00:42] <arifd86> guys, I'm running a really bare version of ubuntu, what's the apt-get name for the program called sessions (that deals with startup commands)?
[00:42] <queso_> how do I know which usb device in /sys/devices ("find /sys -name autosuspend") matches with the devices listed in "lsusb"? I'm trying to turn off autosuspend for the port that my wireless usb adapter is connected to and I can't figure out which one it is.
[00:42] <mdg> styol: he says everything works in the updated kernal that eeebuntu uses
[00:42] <georgefrs> StrangeCharm: or rather, a subdirectory of /var ... /var/vm or something
[00:42] <StrangeCharm> george virtualbox too?
[00:43] <Armageddon> how do i install a 32bit .deb package on a 64bit Ubuntu using dpkg ? i found it somewhere on the internet, to install Flash Player on a 64bit ubuntu ! any help ?
[00:43] <mdg> styol: the eeebuntu base install will fit on your 4 gig SSD and then you can add what apps you want, right gogeta ?
[00:43] <StrangeCharm> georgefrs, right, but i'm currently allocating partitions and hdds
[00:43] <deexannihilate> mdg: it is connected
[00:43] <styol> mdg awesome! checking it out right now... thanks so much mdg i really appreciate not only the follow up, but also your persitence.. its so awesome
[00:43] <mdg> styol: your welcome :)
[00:43] <mdg> deexannihilate: how is your wifi connection at home
[00:43] <gogeta> mdg: yep
[00:44] <unixbocx> anyone here in the texas area
[00:44] <styol> mdg / gogeta - so i should get "eeebuntu base edition 3.0" and not the standard edition?
[00:44] <aaroninfidel> After I use computer-janitor and remove all proposed packages. It remove all AIR applications (from /opt) and remove Adobe AIR. When a install Adobe AIR 1.5 i see: An error occurred while installing Adobe AIR. Installation may not be allowed by your administrator. Please contact your administrator.  any idea why this might be?
[00:44] <deexannihilate> mdg: I stepped away. Gogeta is suggest eeebuntu which is a different distro??
[00:44] <georgefrs> StrangeCharm: Not sure where virtualbox puts them by default on linux
[00:44] <mdg> styol: I defer to gogeta's advice
[00:44] <styol> which is specifically "base edition" yea?
[00:44] <arifd86> i'm running eeebuntu right now... the lxde beta
[00:44] <gogeta> styol: base only comes with basic stuff gnome
[00:45] <deexannihilate> mdg: it is only running at 12/100
[00:45] <styol> thanks gogeta just wanted to make sure
[00:45] <unixbocx> virtual box gets put in your home directory
[00:45] <gogeta> styol: you whont have space hoggin apps like oopenoffice
[00:45] <styol> goeta oh drats ;)
[00:45] <unixbocx> or are you telking about where the VB software is
[00:45] <StrangeCharm> georgefrs, well, it's going to be /var now
[00:45] <gogeta> styol: standerd will fit to but you whont have alot of free space
[00:45] <embrik> I log on to my homeserver (ubuntu hardy) via ssh in nautilus and want to watch some videos I have on an external hd mounted on the server - but kaffeine says the coedc is already installed - do I have to do something special to play videos on this server from my laptop?
[00:46] <deexannihilate> mdg: i have to run away. I'm sorry! I'll be back later. Hopefully, you are too
[00:46] <styol> gogeta ah gotcha... 562mb! awesome lol... even UNR was ~1gig no?
[00:46] <georgefrs> StrangeCharm: imo probably the best place to put them, inside /home gets messy if you ever change users
[00:46] <JoeBaloney> #security-shell
[00:46] <mdg> deexannihilate: the other thing to try would be is as per gogeta and install eeebuntu instead
[00:46] <gogeta> styol: close yea
[00:47] <arifd86> i'm running eeebuntu right now... the lxde beta
[00:47] <StrangeCharm> georgefrs, single user headless box living in an airconditioned room without windows. that's not really a conecern here
[00:47] <arifd86> guys, I'm running a really bare version of ubuntu, what's the apt-get name for the program called sessions (that deals with startup commands)?
[00:47] <embrik> why can't I play video on my server logged in via ssh in nautilus
[00:47] <mdg> styol: knowing everything works in eeebuntu makes me want a netbook so bad!  :)
[00:47] <embrik> both server and laptop is hardy
[00:47] <georgefrs> arifd86: have you tried running 'apt-cache search sessions'
[00:47] <gogeta> mdg: lol
[00:47] <mdg> arifd86: tell us more please
[00:48] <gbergner> good morning
[00:48] <Dr_Willis> arifd86:  normally the window manager/desktops have their own session-manager type tools/system
[00:48] <arifd86> georgefrs, good call
[00:48] <bastidrazor> arifd86, possibly gnome-session-properties
[00:48] <styol> mdg oh it does? im excited... ill have to wait and see regarding wifi tho, its been a nightmare so far lol
[00:48] <StrangeCharm> what does he 'random key' option do? does that store the key somewhere i designate? how is the keyslot unlocked?
[00:48] <gogeta> mdg: eeebuntu is just ubuntu made for netbooks your frend thought diffrent distro
[00:48] <dumont> FFS, what noone can help me figure out why stupid ACPI stops all of my application installs and says acpi isn't configured ??????????????
[00:49] <arifd86> mdg, Dr_Willis, i just want to add the command 'stjerm' to my startup so it starts up when i log in
[00:49] <myself> what does the "meta" key mean when doing options and etc
[00:49] <myself> configuring desktop key shortcuts, what does "meta" key mean
[00:49] <burkmat> dumont, Try stopping the acpid?
[00:49] <arifd86> but fiddling with /etc/init.d wasn't succesful
[00:49] <Dr_Willis> arifd86:  and what window manager/desktop are you using?
[00:49] <Cynope> dumont, did you have that problem before?
[00:49] <dumont> burkmat I TRIED
[00:49] <styol> mdg i am kind of looking for the best case scenario for the super base bottom netbook by dell and if replacing the operating system might have to be part of the regiment
[00:49] <arifd86> Dr_Willis, lxde
[00:49] <unixbocx> has anyone tryed fedora core 11 yet
[00:49] <Cynope> dumont, stop acpi from bios. :P
[00:49] <Dr_Willis> arifd86:  check the lxde docs to see what sort of auto-starting/sessin stuff it follows. it Might use the 'Autostart' directory.
[00:50] <burkmat> dumont, Is your system up to date? There's a bugreport on the same error, might be related?
[00:50] <gogeta> styol: well eeebuntu base is the smalllest ubuntu install you can get
[00:50] <Dr_Willis> !startup
[00:50] <mdg> styol: you mentioned yesterday you were setting up netbook for demo at work?
[00:50] <Dr_Willis> !autostart
[00:50] <dumont> Cynope happened when I was upgrading everything via apt-get upgrade i got this error http://pastebin.com/m4dd5fc93
[00:50] <styol> mdg kinda.. more of a crazy project that only a mad man would take on in his free time ;)
[00:50] <gogeta> styol: im ddid mine from a base
[00:50] <dumont> this is on a dedibox, no bios!
[00:50] <styol> gogeta you have dell netbook as well?
[00:51] <mdg> styol: LOL
[00:51] <dumont> i'm on v8.04.1
[00:51] <gogeta> styol: eee 900a
[00:51] <styol> gogeta ah, gotcha
[00:51] <gogeta> styol: i still have 1gb free on my 4gb ssd
[00:52] <styol> delicious!
[00:52] <gogeta> styol: after installing all my apps
[00:52] <dumont> burkmat ^
[00:52] <styol> gogeta yeah not bad at all, i think i had 32 mb free before i reformatted lol
[00:52] <styol> and i hadnt installed jack diddly
[00:52] <gogeta> styol: if you have a spare sd card you can lvm it and expand your space
[00:52] <StrangeCharm> is there documentation on the site about the encryption options for the server/alt-cd installer?
[00:52] <styol> lvm?
[00:53] <gogeta> !lvm
[00:53] <styol> i do have a 4 gig that im using for the os installs
[00:53] <styol> thanks gogeta
[00:53] <arifd86> !autostart
[00:53] <gogeta> styol: bascily you can lvm anything but lvm home and you got more storage
[00:54] <mdg> gogeta: so if he lvm'd home, he could install more apps?
[00:54] <gogeta> styol: if you lvm anything else you would alwyas need the sd card in to boot
[00:54] <Dr_Willis> arifd86:  lxde uses some sort of lxsession from what i am seeing on google.
[00:54] <styol> gogeta ah yeah that makes sense, would be good to put music and stuff on, thanks for the suggestions
[00:54] <gogeta> styol: lvm home and /ust for more apps and stoage
[00:54] <gogeta> usr
[00:54] <kerm|t> the text input cursor is black on black backgrounds, how do i make it visible?
[00:55] <gogeta> thers a guide
[00:55] <styol> gogeta i will definitely check it out, in this instance tho im not actually planning to use it for a personal computer
[00:55] <styol> ill explain more via PM
[00:55] <Dr_Willis> arifd86:  but it seems lxde.org is down at this time
[00:55] <mdg> gogeta: how big a card will eeebuntu support?
[00:55] <th0r> gogeta: might just mount the card in ~/bin and install the apps locally. Then add the card to fstab so it automounts on insert
[00:56] <gogeta> mdg: as big as you can buy
[00:56] <arifd86> Dr_Willis, lxde.org has been down for atleast a week
[00:56] <gogeta> styol: http://wiki.eeeuser.com/howto:using_lvm2_to_extend_linux_onto_your_sdhc_card
[00:56] <arifd86> isn't there just terminal version of what Sessions does
[00:57] <mdg> arifd86: what is "sessions"
[00:57] <styol> gogeta quick question, why LVM and not just a symlink or something?
[00:57] <arifd86> mdg look up the link for !autostart
[00:57] <arifd86> !autostart
[00:57] <aaroninfidel> anyone know why computer janitor kills Adobe AIR? everytime I try to install it, it gives me errors.
[00:57] <arifd86> !autostart
[00:58] <mdg> arifd86: so you want the command line version of "autostart"
[00:58] <Dr_Willis> arifd86:   see what lxde docs are instaled and theck theubuntu wiki pages and stuff.. To be honest.. lxde is just not that popular.. or commonly used
[00:58] <radioactivegamer> can anyone help me with Xchat?
[00:58] <dumont> if i can't ge my server working properly today i'm going to declare ubuntu as a PoS
[00:58] <Dr_Willis> arifd86:  could try lxsession --help or silimer also..
[00:58] <JediGenii> Hello, just started back using linux after a good bit because i support osx... what i have narrowed it down to is after installing adobe flash player for linux yesterday i restarted and now nothing comes up in my ad/remove installation list... ive checked sources any suggestions?
[00:59] <arifd86> heres the link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup
[00:59] <Dr_Willis> arifd86:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LXDE     LXSession, session manager
[00:59] <arifd86> i think i want the command line version of autostart, yes
[00:59] <Dr_Willis> arifd86:  its very likely lxde uses some alternative methiod.. not the niormal ubntu/gnome method.
[00:59] <arifd86> Dr_Willis, doesn't startup stuff get handled by debian/ubuntu, not the window manager itself?
[00:59] <mdg> arifd86: let me ask in the command line distro forum - I use INX
[01:00] <Dr_Willis> arifd86:  it gets handled by the WINDOW MANAGER/Desktop
[01:00] <Dr_Willis> arifd86:  i said that earlier
[01:00] <arifd86> thanks mdg
[01:00] <arifd86> yeah but, i can't see the logic in that, dr willis
[01:00] <dumont> fuck! help meeeeeeeee geezus
[01:00] <spO> what are some programs to help configure Xwin?   i need some help trying to find resolutiosn or screen sizes so that i do not have overscan (a black border) around my desktop when using my hdtv as a monitor
[01:00] <Zabadda> how do i run a .bin file from the terminal?
[01:00] <Nyha> Hi I have a problem booting ubuntu... is 512mb ram to small for the latest?
[01:00] <StrangeCharm> can 9.04 be installed with a keyfile rather than a passphrase?
[01:01] <Nyha> *on a USB live system...
[01:01] <spO> dumount, watch your language, you could get banned
[01:01] <dumont> I was upgrading everything via apt-get upgrade i got this error http://pastebin.com/m4dd5fc93 i'm on 8.04
[01:01] <Zabadda> 512 is the lowest i think should be fine
[01:01] <bastidrazor> Zabadda, be in the same directory as the file and do ./filename.bin
[01:01] <gogeta> styol: thers a way to do it without formatiing
[01:01] <Radtoo> spO: xorg... well there's a bunch. xrandr. Xorg -configure is another one....
[01:02] <Nyha> Zabadda: well when X start the system freezes...
[01:02] <JediGenii> anyone think they got a clue as to what happened to my add/remove?
[01:02] <Radtoo> spO: also sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ...
[01:02] <dumont> apt-get -f install, apt-get upgrade, apt-get update, /etc/init.d/acpid stop, dpkg --configure -a => ALL RUN AS SUDO, all stops with a error saying ACPID is not configured
[01:02] <radioactivegamer> I'm trying to connect to a network in Xchat and all I get is * Unknown host. Maybe you misspelled it?
[01:03] <deexannihilate> mdg: ok sorry! so, you were saying gogeta recommends eeebuntu as opposed to netbook remix?
[01:03] <Dr_Willis> arifd86:  its all about layers.. You are thinking at the 'what the user is starting layer'  X starts up.. does stuff.. launches the window manager the User selected  Then its all up to the window manager.. No longer the 'system'
[01:03] <georgefrs> Zabadda: run ./prog_name.bin in the folder the .bin is in
[01:03] <radioactivegamer> can someone please help?
[01:04] <gogeta> deexannihilate: its ubunt just built for netbooks
[01:04] <Radtoo> radioactivegamer: well, if you are here, perhaps it is exactly what it said for that other server?
[01:04] <gogeta> ubuntu
[01:04] <Zabadda> im putting this Desktop$ ./AdobeAIRinstaller.bin
[01:04] <georgefrs> Zabadda: If that doesn't work, try running 'sudo chmod a+x prog_name.bin' first
[01:04] <v3n0x> hi
[01:05] <radioactivegamer> the thing is, I know I'm spelling it right. I type the exact same network name into IRSSI and it works
[01:05] <arifd86> Dr_Willis, thanks, I just had it figured that the window manager was nothing more than the GUI to the system
[01:05] <georgefrs> Zabadda: If you downloaded the file, you will need to run chmod on it like described first
[01:05] <deexannihilate> gogeta: and you've actually seen it used on aspire one?
[01:06] <gogeta> deexannihilate: using it on my 900a and yes in thee fourms thers acer ones users
[01:06] <georgefrs> Zabadda: chances are you will also want to run that installer with 'sudo ./AdobeAIRinstaller.bin' as well
[01:06] <gogeta> as well as dell mini 9 and 10
[01:06] <Dr_Willis> arifd86:  the 'window manager' is techinally the tool that does the window decorations. thats true.. but you are running the lxde 'desktop' that is the Window manager + other tools...
[01:06] <georgefrs> Zabadda: otherwise the installer will have permission errors when it trys to edit system files
[01:07] <Dr_Willis> arifd86:   its like legos. :) parts all working together.
[01:07] <Radtoo> radioactivegamer: how about the ssl / proxy settings in xchat?
[01:07] <Zabadda> its saying no such file
[01:07] <arifd86> haha
[01:07] <Dr_Willis> arifd86:   part of the lxde desktop is the 'lxsession' program that handles the session management..
[01:07] <Zabadda> sorry command not found
[01:08] <deexannihilate> gogeta: no harm in trying it ou
[01:08] <deexannihilate> t
[01:08] <georgefrs> Zabadda: whats the line for the file look like from 'ls -alh' ?
[01:08] <gogeta> deexannihilate: http://forum.eeebuntu.org/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=542
[01:08] <Zabadda> sorry not sure what you mean
[01:08] <deexannihilate> gogeta: can I dual boot to test it?
[01:09] <gogeta> deexannihilate: shure
[01:09] <gogeta> deexannihilate: its a live cd as well
[01:09] <gogeta> deexannihilate: they are thinking of renaming the distro being it does work on all netbooks
[01:10] <gogeta> and work well
[01:10] <paperclip_> anyone a css guru?
[01:10] <mdg> gogeta: I missed part of the convo - rename what?
[01:10] <Dr_Willis> gogeta:  yet more netbook linux disrto renameing! weeee!
[01:11] <gogeta> Dr_Willis: well its called eeebuntu but it works on everything
[01:11] <georgefrs> Zabadda: if you run 'ls -alh', there should be a line which has the filename AdobeAIRinstaller.bin in it, assuming you are in the correct directory
[01:11] <gogeta> Dr_Willis: kinda a bad name
[01:11] <paperclip_> using identical stylesheets..  http://www.maryjanesemporium.com/beta/  http://jtld.net/
[01:11] <Dr_Willis> gogeta:  been using the UNR on my AAO for now.  :) perhaps someday these Netbook disrtos wont need the tweaking i still had to do.
[01:11] <paperclip_> background image only shows up on the navbar in one.. why?!?
[01:11] <Dr_Willis> gogeta:  how about Ewwwbuntu!
[01:12] <gogeta> Dr_Willis: eebuntu is tweaked for all netbooks
[01:12] <paperclip_> netbuntu
[01:12] <gogeta> Dr_Willis: only bad thing abought 9.04 and netbooks is the wifi bugs
[01:12] <gogeta> paperclip_: netbunu is the name suggested lol
[01:13] <Dr_Willis> gogeta:  i still have issues with my 2 sd card slots.  but  i dont use them a lot. :)
[01:13] <paperclip_> gogeta: sounds right
[01:13] <Zabadda> its working! :)
[01:13] <dumont> I was upgrading everything via apt-get upgrade i got this error http://pastebin.com/m4dd5fc93 i'm on 8.04
[01:13] <dumont> apt-get -f install, apt-get upgrade, apt-get update, /etc/init.d/acpid stop, dpkg --configure -a => ALL RUN AS SUDO, all stops with a error saying ACPID is not configured
[01:13] <dumont> Please help me solve this, it's a dedibox, all I have is root access, reinstalling is a problem
[01:13] <FloodBot2> dumont: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:13] <Zabadda> cheers guys i think i just missed a capital I in the filename
[01:14] <FloodBot2> !netsplit
[01:14] <paperclip_> love netsplits..
[01:14] <Guest10582> Hola, Me pueden ayudar a configurar Bit Torrent Transmission?
[01:14] <nothreat33> anyone know the command for untaring all tar.gz files in a directory?
[01:15] <bastidrazor> if you ignore join/parts you see none of the madness
[01:15] <Radtoo> dumont: I am not certain of course, but perhaps you just need to whip out a text editor and edit a file in /etc/rc.d?
[01:15] <jrib> nothreat33: use a for loop
[01:15] <nothreat33> k thanks jrib
[01:15] <centinul> I'm having trouble getting HDMI audio out working in some applications, specifally xbmc on Jaunty... Any ideas?
[01:17] <Radtoo> centinul: its possible that they dont use the same audio subsystem like the things that work. pulseaudio, alsa, oss, ... all different.
[01:17] <paperclip_> so.. no css gurus eh?
[01:17] <Radtoo> paperclip_: css as in cascading style sheets? thats more #html or #css...
[01:17] <paperclip_> oh.. there is a #css here?
[01:17] <paperclip_> doh
[01:18] <Radtoo> yes, freenode is pretty large. :)
[01:18] <dumont> I was upgrading everything via apt-get upgrade i got this error http://pastebin.com/m4dd5fc93 i'm on 8.04
[01:18] <dumont> apt-get -f install, apt-get upgrade, apt-get update, /etc/init.d/acpid stop, dpkg --configure -a => ALL RUN AS SUDO, all stops with a error saying ACPID is not configured Please help me solve this, it's a dedibox, all I have is root access, reinstalling is a problem
[01:18] <centinul> Radtoo:  How do I tell what sound system a particular app is using?
[01:19] <JediGeni_> any know whys add/remove randomly shows nothing?
[01:19] <deexannihilate> gogeta: which version?
[01:19] <deexannihilate> gogeta: http://eeebuntu.org/index.php?page=download
[01:19] <Radtoo> centinul: Not so easy. Sometimes you can get some info with "lsof" or ps and co. Or the application log files, or possible settings dialogs.
[01:19] <renic> is there a way to get better flash support for things like youtube?
[01:19] <txmale4969> cant update jaunty jackalope
[01:20] <Radtoo> renic: better than?
[01:20] <bastidrazor> dumont, what is in your /proc/acpi folder?
[01:20] <centinul> Radtoo: For example HDMI audio works with Rythymbox, but pretty much not anything else
[01:20] <renic> Radtoo: better than the default installation instructions firefox gives you when you need a plugin.
[01:21] <spO> any of you know hwo to fix overscan?
[01:21] <txmale4969> i get a failed to fetch cd rom  type error when trying to update ubunto jaunty jackalope
[01:21] <tuntun> I tried to enlarge an ntfs partition with gparted, but when I saw that it was intending to move hundreds of GB's I cancelled the operation. The partition is now gone. Using a recovery program it can still detect the partition and the files. How can I restore the partition?
[01:22] <dumont> .   alarm                power_resource  thermal_zone
[01:22] <dumont> ..  embedded_controller  processor       wakeup
[01:22] <dumont> bastid_razor ^
[01:22] <Radtoo> renic: hmm, how about just using apt?
[01:22] <dumont> ls -a
[01:23] <bastidrazor> txmale4969, system>administration>update-manager > settings > ubuntu softwate .. uncheck Cdrom with Ubuntu at the bottom.
[01:23] <renic> Radtoo: can't answer your question because I don't understand it.
[01:23] <bastidrazor> dumont, possibly make an event file? sudo touch event
[01:23] <Radtoo> renic: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer or flashplugin-installer in synaptic or you click "install missing plugins" in firefox when you hit a page with flash...
[01:23] <dumont> touch: cannot touch `event': No such file or directory
[01:24] <renic> they're already installed.  but it runs slow and buggy.
[01:24] <xiphos> does anyone have issues with the cursor connecting to a vista machine using the terminal services client in Jaunty?
[01:24] <Radtoo> renic: ah... then I misunderstood you before.
[01:25] <xiphos> I can connect, I just cant see the cursor
[01:25] <dumont> bastid_razor
[01:25] <renic> Radtoo: no problem... hence looking for a way to get "better flash support..."
[01:25] <bastidrazor> dumont, you tried to upgrade distro's?
[01:25] <dumont> dedicated server
[01:25] <Radtoo> renic: there's not a great deal you can do about that, its adobe's proprietary software after all. You might get better performance with a 3d accelerator card that runs on proprietary drivers, or a different web browser...
[01:26] <spO> i have the correct resolution for my desktop, but i have overscan/a black border around my desktop,   so i have to somehow scale my desktop or something?
[01:26] <dumont> bastid_razor all i can do is do whatever root can do, as far as upgrade, well, apt-get upgrade is the most that i've done
[01:27] <renic> Radtoo: it's no big deal... I had false hopes of linux flash plugin working better under linux than it does in bsd. :)
[01:27] <renic> lol
[01:27] <kindofabuzz> it's still crappy flash no matter what OS
[01:27] <renic> agreed
[01:27] <renic> but svg has yet to come to the rescue... for the most part
[01:28] <bastidrazor> dumont, what do you mean what root can do? you don't have a user account you login with?
[01:28] <bucky> My Unsettling Ubuntu Experience http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2009/8/1/155644/0204
[01:28] <marko-_-> !skype
[01:28] <myself> whats'
[01:28] <myself> what's git
[01:28] <myself> !git
[01:28] <renic> bastidrazor: /me senses an "rm -r /" joke coming on.
[01:29] <dumont> bastid_razor i just got my dedibox from my host, i was trying to set it up until fk ubuntu starting giving me that error crap
[01:29] <bastidrazor> renic, that is a horrible joke.
[01:30] <genii> renic: Please don't put that command, even in jest. There are a lot of curious new users who just type in things they see for no explainable reason.
[01:30] <richardcavell> renic: I agree.  Don't type it even in fun
[01:30] <bastidrazor> dumont, not having a bios could be causing you problems.. have you thought of trying a different version of ubuntu? eeepc possibly?
[01:31] <imran> How do I run an installer from terminal if it says "Permission Denied"?
[01:31] <marko-_-> with sudo
[01:31] <dumont> bastid_razor why can't u understand? I can only get what the host provides? in this case they only provide 8.04 ubuntu!!!
[01:31] <bastidrazor> imran, prepend with sudo
[01:31] <genii> imran: Also make sure it's actusally executable
[01:31] <dumont> and all I get is a root access
[01:31] <bastidrazor> dumont, then you should be asking the host to help you.. i do understand.
[01:32] <imran> It should be, as I did this before on my Live CD. And what do you mean by "prepend"?
[01:32] <dumont> bastid_razor no u don't, can't ask the host, it's the buyers responsibility to setup the server
[01:32] <marko-_-> imran, sudo ./theinstalles.sh
[01:32] <imran> Ack im going kinda slow as im installing updates right now
[01:33] <bastidrazor> dumont, try #ubuntu-server
[01:34] <imran> I did sudo and put in password...
[01:34] <Radtoo> renic: The killer application these days is video and I think firefox and co embedding a movie player will do us good.
[01:34] <imran> When I try to do "sudo ./filename" i get not a command and when I just do "./filename" (After the sudo) I get permission denied...
[01:35] <joeyeye> imran chmod +x /.filename
[01:35] <burkmat> imran: How are you trying to install something? Are you running a script? Using aptitude? Compiling from source?
[01:35] <renic> Radtoo: agreed
[01:36] <renic> genii: it won't work without adding a special something before....
[01:36] <kindofabuzz> imran, you have to give a command to do something, not just sude ./foo
[01:36] <kindofabuzz> sudo*
[01:36] <bastidrazor> dumont, wait.. you're on a remote server trying to install ubuntu server?
[01:37] <genii> renic: It will work, on all files whatever username owns under the hierarchy when it runs. So all of their ~
[01:37] <TwoToneSpirit> I reinstalled Ubuntu but kept my home folder.  Now it appears that the passphrase for my RSA key, which I don't know, has been discarded.  Does anyone know where this passphrase is stored?
[01:37] <renic> genii: oh yeah (-r)
[01:37] <renic> :)
[01:37] <bastidrazor> TwoToneSpirit, ~/.ssh
[01:38] <TwoToneSpirit> bastidrazor:  Understand, I'm not looking for the actual keys, but the passphrase
[01:39] <bastidrazor> TwoToneSpirit,  ah, that i don't know.
[01:39] <Radtoo> TwoToneSpirit: Any reasonable security policy would suggest that keys and pass phrase aren't both stored... so at most I guess it would be in a wallet manager thing?
[01:39] <TwoToneSpirit> Radtoo:  Yeah I'm going crazy with gnome-keyring too.  When I reinstalled, the password for .gnome-keyrind was not changed.
[01:40] <burkmat> TwoToneSpirit: The passphrase is in the keyfile... Sort of. I suspect at least. When you add a passphrase, the key itself is encrypted with it.
[01:40] <renic> TwoToneSpirit:  There is no way to recover a lost passphrase
[01:41] <_mnemonic76> How can I make a partition on an internal SATA drive automount under Jaunty? It is another (data) partition on the same physical disk as the Jaunty installation partition, but I have to mount it manually every time I reboot...
[01:41] <aaroninfidel> anyone know why Adobe AIR doesn't install after having it removed from Computer Cleaner?
[01:41] <TwoToneSpirit> renic: OK, well then I guess I'll generate a new key.  How did it become lost?  Where was it before it was lost?
[01:41] <_mnemonic76> It is a backup location for my wife's laptop, and it would be nice if it was automounted.
[01:41] <Radtoo> TwoToneSpirit: you can have a passwordless key if you want...
[01:41] <renic> TwoToneSpirit: I dunno... I just read the ssh manpages.
[01:41] <Dr_Willis> _mnemonic76:  add an entry to it in /etc/fstab
[01:42] <renic> and it said "There is no way to recover a lost passphrase"
[01:42] <burkmat> TwoToneSpirit: I don't really understand the problem. Did you forget your passphrase?
[01:42] <TwoToneSpirit> burkmat:  I don't think I ever knew it.  It never asked me for it before I reinstalled.
[01:42] <Radtoo> TwoToneSpirit: are you certain it HAD a passphrase then?
[01:43] <renic> TwoToneSpirit: did you try entering a blank passphrase?
[01:43] <TwoToneSpirit> Well, whenever I try to use my key now (to ssh into a system that knows my key) I'm being asked for a passphrase.  I tried blank, no dice.
[01:43] <tuntun> I tried to enlarge an ntfs partition with gparted, but when I saw that it was intending to move hundreds of GB's I cancelled the operation. The partition is now gone. Using a recovery program it can still detect the partition and the files. How can I restore the partition?
[01:43] <Radtoo> TwoToneSpirit: it doesn't say "keyboard interactive" login tho?
[01:44] <burkmat> TwoToneSpirit: If you check your key, does it begin with "---BEGIN KEY---" followed by key, or is it "---BEGIN KEY---" followed by encryption info?
[01:44] <TwoToneSpirit> Radtoo:  No it doesn't.  I don't know that phrase.
[01:44] <FergatROn> Hi, can we chitchat here or is this strictly support?
[01:44] <gogeta> deexannihilate: standerd should be fine
[01:44] <Radtoo> FergatROn: theres #ubuntu-offtopic for chitchat
[01:44] <FergatROn> thanks Radtoo
[01:44] <TwoToneSpirit> burkmat:  It has encryption info! :-)
[01:45] <burkmat> TwoToneSpirit: Then I'm afraid the key is lost without a passphrase (or some serious brute-forcing ^^). Sorry.
[01:45] <Radtoo> TwoToneSpirit: That'd be when you log in with username / pw in ssh rather than username / key. I just thought perhaps the key was not sent by the client for some reason and the server-side fallback to interactive login had triggered
[01:46] <boomerang> Hey, I got a problem I have no sound :(
[01:46] <TwoToneSpirit> burkmat:  Hmm, well lesson learned I guess.  I wish I understood how and where the passphrase was previously stored.
[01:47] <Radtoo> TwoToneSpirit: Presumably the keyring manager, if you used the gnome terminal...
[01:47] <burkmat> TwoToneSpirit: I guess the keyring did that for you... Not very nice of it. If you didn't already, I suggest you use `ssh-keygen` CLI for making keys, with passphrases. All in 1 file, if you remember the passphrase that is. ;)
[01:48] <neutron> does ubuntu come with any tools for resizing partitons?
[01:48] <neutron> by default
[01:48] <Radtoo> TwoToneSpirit: If you don't trust it anymore there's also alternatives...
[01:48] <burkmat> neutron: gparted can do that I think.
[01:48] <Radtoo> neutron: I think it has fdisk and gparted... not certain anymore tho
[01:48] <centinul> Nvidia is defaulting to 1280x720 for the HDMI video on my 32" 720p TV... How do I get it to the correct resolution of 1366x768
[01:48] <mido> Good morning.
[01:48] <TwoToneSpirit> burkmat: OK, well, also: how do I reset the gnome-keyring password?  I googled, and all the suggestions are to delete .gnome2/keyring/default.passphrase or something to that effect - but I have no such file.
[01:49] <boomerang> i just installed ubuntu 9.04 and it has no sound, how am i supposed to get it to work?
[01:49] <burkmat> TwoToneSpirit: Are you sure you have a keyring password set?
[01:49] <neutron> alright nice. I installed ubuntu on a very small partition :P
[01:49] <TwoToneSpirit> Can someone with my passphrase generate my private key?!
[01:50] <TwoToneSpirit> burkmat:  Yes, my keyring password is my user password from my previous installation.
[01:50] <neutron> the windows tool would only let me allocate 3.4GB
[01:50] <FalconM> how do i stop a infinite loop?
[01:50] <burkmat> TwoToneSpirit: Absolutely not. Passphrase is just a way of encrypting your private key. That way, someone steals your keyfile, but it's encrypted. Not much use.
[01:50] <TwoToneSpirit> burkmat: Great.
[01:50] <FalconM> i've ssh to a ubuntu system and i ran a cgi/perl script
[01:50] <mido> centinul: couldn't you choose the correct resolution via nvidia-settings?
[01:50] <boss_mc> FalconM: you can kill a process from the terminal with ctrl+c
[01:51] <boomerang> Can anyone help me with my no sound issue?
[01:51] <centinul> mid: No, it had a bunch of resolutions but that wasn't one of them
[01:51] <mido> boomerang: Depends.
[01:51] <burkmat> TwoToneSpirit: Well, I'm not entirely sure how to remove the keyring... Let me search around for a bit. ;)
[01:51] <bucky> FalconM: wait till it runs out of memory and crashes the system?
[01:51] <C-S-B_> if i have a script set to run from cron, and it involves connecting to an ssh which requires a password, will it sit at a prompt or fail?
[01:52] <Radtoo_> TwoToneSpirit: hemm, it would be nonstandard but perhaps you had another wallet manager like keepass or kwallet? :P
[01:52] <mido> centinul: Hmmm, probably there is a DDC issue with the monitor. nvidia-settings normally only lists resolutions supported both by monitor and graphic chip.
[01:52] <bucky> FalconM: run top on the remote and see if you can kill it with k
[01:52] <boomerang> what do you need to know to help me? I've alreay checked if things were muted, and theyre all on full blast, plus my computer is making it's system noises
[01:52] <Mike_lifeguard> What should by fstab entry be for an NTFS Windows partition so all users can (un)mount it, and see everything inside it?
[01:52] <tuntun> I tried to enlarge an ntfs partition with gparted, but when I saw that it was intending to move hundreds of GB's I cancelled the operation. The partition is now gone. Using a recovery program it can still detect the partition and the files. How can I restore the partition?
[01:52] <pwebguy> CSB it will time out after a while
[01:52] <Radtoo_> TwoToneSpirit: Or is there some file ther but you just can't access it?
[01:52] <mido> boom: Do you have the small loudspeaker icon in the upper right corner?
[01:52] <centinul> mido: any ideas on what to do to fix it?
[01:52] <boomerang> ya its there, with three waves
[01:52] <mido> boomerang: Do you have the small loudspeaker icon in the upper right corner?
[01:52] <Radtoo_> TwoToneSpirit: I mean, you can't access gnome-keyring? (Try the old login password?)
[01:52] <mido> Ah.
[01:53] <TwoToneSpirit> Radtoo_ I can access gnome-keyring, but I can't seem to change the password away from my old one and to my new one.
[01:53] <twohead2> Wow
[01:53] <mido> centinul: just a moment.
[01:53] <pwebguy> C-S-B best to use keys instead of passwords for cron-ssh access
[01:53] <mido> boom: right-click the icon and open the sliders.
[01:53] <aaroninfidel> anyone know why I get this error when installing Adobe AIR? An error occurred while installing Adobe AIR. Installation may not be allowed by your administrator. Please contact your administrator.
[01:54] <C-S-B_> pwebguy: i know,but its not my server :/
[01:54] <boomerang> alright im in volume control what next?
[01:54] <mneptok> aaroninfidel: in Ubuntu?
[01:54] <mido> boomerang: Then klick on "settings".
[01:54] <Darxus> There's no way to get wubi to install to a dedicated parition?
[01:54] <Radtoo_> TwoToneSpirit: hmm... perhaps you want to chown your entire home directory to your current user, just to make sure there's not any files with the wrong permissions left?
[01:54] <Darxus> I just don't have a blank cd....
[01:54] <Radtoo_> TwoToneSpirit: perhaps the user id number changed between installations or somesuch.
[01:54] <mido> boomerang: there are a lot of non-selected channels.
[01:54] <mneptok> Darxus: got a USB key of 1GB or greater you can format?
[01:55] <aaroninfidel> mneptok: yes, 9.04 32bit edition
[01:55] <mido> boomerang: Then enable _all_ of then. Go back to the sliders and unmute all, then bring all full up.
[01:55] <mido> boomerang: After that you should hear something.
[01:55] <Radtoo_> TwoToneSpirit: And in that case it might explain why the keyring doesn't work correctly as well.
[01:55] <boomerang> mido: im sort of getting lost here, what channels? there;s only one thing there (it says master and its checked)
[01:55] <TwoToneSpirit> Radtoo_: No, the ownership is definitely fine.  I'm not that worried about it.  I have generated a new set of keys and the keyring issue, which I must admit I don't fully understand the point of in the first place, is only a rare annoyance
[01:55] <mido> boomerang: (when playing sound)
[01:55] <dumont> whats the command to list all the users on the server?
[01:56] <Darxus> mneptok: No :/
[01:56] <mneptok> dumont: who
[01:56] <mido> boomerang: What device is named in that window? The selection bar.
[01:56] <spO> how do i get access to the apt test respository?
[01:56] <netsurf3> hey can anyone tell me if gnome supports zeroconf/mdns
[01:57] <boomerang> mido: it says Null Output (PulseAudio Mixer)
[01:57] <Radtoo_> TwoToneSpirit: okay.
[01:57] <mido> boomerang: Ah, not good. Any other devices you could choose?
[01:57] <danbhfive> spO: you mean the next version of ubuntu?
[01:57] <dumont> whats the command to list all the users on the server? who command only displays the current user, it doesn't display all the available logins to the server
[01:58] <danbhfive> dumont: maybe w?
[01:58] <mido> dumont: Look at /etc/passwd, then you see all users on the system
[01:58] <mneptok> dumont: cat /etc/passwd
[01:58] <dumont> i need to find out if any user logins were created by a root logged in user
[01:58] <gartral> dumont: sudo who
[01:58] <boomerang> mido: is also says the also mixer thing but thats for the microphone... (because its detecting the usb device which is my webcam/mic)
[01:58] <jerbear> Can anyone point me to a good example of how to package my python app? I've never created debs before.
[01:59] <boomerang> mido: and the Moniter of Null Output
[01:59] <mido> boomerang: Okay, seems to be a serious issue. What is your soundcard/chip? Probably onboard?
[01:59] <gartral> jerbear: debs are known as the *HARDEST* type of package
[01:59] <jerbear> gardar: nevertheless, I still need to.
[02:00] <gartral> !packageing | jerbear
[02:00] <boomerang> Actually, according to my windows (which is dual booted and sound works perfectly) I have an Envy24 Family Audio
[02:00] <mido> centinul: Seems if you'll have to configure xorg manually.
[02:00] <centinul> okay
[02:00] <burkmat> !packaging | jerbear
[02:01] <mido> centinul: I'm looking for an example.
[02:01] <Polarina> How do I make apache2 listen to IPv6 only and bind to a certain IPv6 address?
[02:01] <hellis22> would anyone happen to know/guess the when the next release of ubuntu would be? i'm guessing october
[02:01] <boomerang> mido: Actually, according to my windows (which is dual booted and sound works perfectly) I have an Envy24 Family Audio
[02:01] <MDesigner> hm
[02:02] <Radtoo_> hellis22: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[02:02] <Radtoo_> hellis22: so, yes...
[02:02] <mido> boomerang: Is it an onboard chip, or a PCI/PCIe card?
[02:03] <boomerang> mido: Its a PCI
[02:04] <mido> boomerang: Sorry, I don't find anyone mentioning a solution. I fear the chip is not supported yet.
[02:05] <boomerang> mido: really?? ooh that might be bad...
[02:05] <mido> boomerang: I only find people complaining about problems not getting this card working, sorry.
[02:06] <boomerang> mido: i was searching earlier on it tho and i entered lspci-v in the terminal (got it from the forums) and it gave me some info on my card
[02:06] <noren> hello all, need some advise !!
[02:06] <mido> centinul: Have a look at http://wiki.linux-sevenler.org/index.php/Erkan_-_xorg.conf_dosyam
[02:06] <boomerang> mido: it said Capabilities: <access denied> im guessing thats bad
[02:06] <noren> i want to store  Large chunk of movies on a single partition which partition format is suitable for that
[02:06] <jerbear> I would like an example or a tutorial for how to package a python app.
[02:06] <mido> centinul: There's an xorg.conf for an nvidia card.
[02:07] <centinul> thanks
[02:07] <mido> centinul: important is the option "noddc"
[02:07] <mitsos> xairete
[02:07] <mido> centinul: This suppresses the resolution autodetection.
[02:07] <danbhfive> jerbear: you should try #ubuntu-motu
[02:08] <mido> centinul: Then you'll have to add a "monitor" section like in the example to your xorg conf, but with the correct frequencies for your monitor.
[02:09] <mido> centinul: At last, you'll have to extend the screen section by the resolution.
[02:09] <mido> centinul: Keep a backup of your xorg.conf, maybe you'll need it ;-)
[02:09] <centinul> thanks... I'll see what I can do
[02:11] <fosa> anyone have a good link for getting firefox 3.5 installed on x64?
[02:13] <queso_> how do I know which usb device in /sys/devices ("find /sys -name autosuspend") matches with the devices listed in "lsusb"? I'm trying to turn off autosuspend for the port that my wireless usb adapter is connected to and I can't figure out which one it is.
[02:14] <boss_mc> !ff3.5 | fosa
[02:15] <fosa> should i upgrade to jaunty?
[02:15] <fosa> is that likely to break a few programs/settings ?
[02:15] <bankix> queso: will take some minutes...
[02:15] <fosa> (running intrepid)
[02:16] <AvonGenesis> How do you kill a process? I'm looking for something similar to task manager from windows.
[02:17] <Radtoo> AvonGenesis: alt-f2?
[02:17] <Radtoo> AvonGenesis: and then gnome-system-monitor
[02:17] <bankix> queso_: Okay: Look at the "Bus" and the "Device" number. Do you have an example line for me? Then I could use these values.
[02:17] <gartral> AvonGenesis: top
[02:18] <nicklas_> hey
[02:18] <boss_mc> fosa: intrepid is very stable, upgrading should not break anything
[02:18] <Mike_lifeguard> What should by fstab entry be for an NTFS Windows partition so all users can (un)mount it, and see everything inside it?
[02:18] <AvonGenesis> Radtoo: Thanks! Thats what I was looking for.
[02:18] <Radtoo> AvonGenesis: np.
[02:18] <fosa> boss_mc, upgrading from intrepid to jaunty shouldn't break anything?
[02:19] <boss_mc> fosa: yeah, that's what I meant, I'm stuck in 6 months ago... :)
[02:19] <blognewb> how can you do a sudo on filezilla?
[02:19] <bankix> Mike_lifeguard: You'll have to add the mount option "user". Then every user may mount it, own it, and unmount it.
[02:20] <styol> gogeta: the eeebuntu install is going, so far a much better experience then installing the dell one... system is locking up, its moving along quickly, etc :) *cross fingers*
[02:20] <fosa> boss_mc, okay i'll trust you and upgrade soon ^^
[02:20] <Mike_lifeguard> bankix: do I need "defaults" too?
[02:20] <bankix> queso_: Could you post me a line of your "lsusb" output with the device? Then I could use these values in the example so it's clearer to you.
[02:21] <bankix> Mike_lifeguard: Depends. "defaults" is short for a number of options, the manpage shows which. If you need them, keep "defaults". I would.
[02:21] <queso_> bankix: Sure, thanks!  Here's one of the lines: "Bus 001 Device 003: ID 7392:7318"
[02:22] <Mike_lifeguard> k, thx
[02:22] <bankix> queso_: Good. We need the bus number, here 001, so 1, and the device number, here 003, so 3.
[02:22] <queso_> bankix: here is a /sys/devices line:  "/sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:04.0/usb3/power/autosuspend"
[02:23] <bankix> queso_: Now let a loop (for d in /sys/bus/usb/devices/*; do) run over all devices, and look if there are the files */busnum and */devnum
[02:23] <bankix> queso_: The file busnum must match the bus number, the file devnum the device number.
[02:23] <Radtoo> blognewb: you could probably run it with... gksudo was it? But while it may not be quite as current as it used to be, its sort of an old wisdom not to run networking programs like ftp as root user.
[02:23] <queso_> bankix: run "for d in /sys/bus/usb/devices/*; do" in bash?
[02:24] <bankix> queso_: Yes, that's the head of your loop.
[02:24] <blognewb> Radtoo: sftp?
[02:24] <bankix> queso_: You need to write a script, btw.
[02:25] <Radtoo> blognewb: you don't need super user permissions to use sftp, for all I know
[02:25] <queso_> bankix: Ooh, lol. :) Write a script . . . hmm. I don't exactly know how to do that for this purpose.
[02:25] <bankix> queso_: When you did find the appropriate directory in /sys/bus/usb/devices, you could resolve the pci bus path with "readlink".
[02:25] <Radtoo> blognewb: there's a login field in filezilla, at most you put "root" in there rather than running the whole thing as root.
[02:26] <blognewb> Radtoo: yeah that's the problem in some folders, i can just upload files but not for certain directories.. i dunno why htat is
[02:26] <int203> hey. sorry if its been asked a bunch already but anyone know if there are jaunty packages for kde 4.3 yet?
[02:26] <streblo> is there an easy tutorial on using apache with ubuntu?
[02:26] <bankix> queso_: This will point to the /sys/devices/pci* path
[02:26] <Kevin1a> What can cause Brasero to stop at "normalizing tracks" when burning an audio CD?
[02:26] <bankix> queso_: Never wrote a shell script before?
[02:26] <gogeta> bankix: lol
[02:26] <queso_> bankix: I know how make scripts executable and modify them, but never wrote any from scratch, no. :/
[02:27] <bankix> ... I know everybody should do something good every day... but at half past three in the morning?
[02:27] <nate1> i joined the #samba channel and it seems as if no ones online is there another room where i can get help with samba
[02:28] <Radtoo> blognewb: well it sure could be permissions, I recall filezilla wasn't all that great about conveying why a transfer fails.
[02:28] <th0r> bankix: it's only 2130 real time
[02:29] <queso_> bankix: sorry, don't mean to keep you up
[02:29] <bankix> th0r: Hi! Good eavening, then. Still in the habour?
[02:29] <nate1> 630 here bankix
[02:29] <Radtoo> blognewb: But that's probably permissions on the remote side, no? At most you need to perform a root login there, but not locally...
[02:30] <blognewb> Radtoo: oh i didnt put root in the user field maybe that's why
[02:30] <blognewb> i iiiidont want to. can i do  it on the spot?
[02:30] <e_t> hi i have an ati radeon hd 4670 and i cannot get the drivers to work in jaunty or hardy
[02:30] <e_t> even after following a few tutorials on the net
[02:30] <nate1> is there another room becides #samba that i can go to for help
[02:31] <blognewb> i like the ubuntu site it's so cute
[02:31] <bankix> queso_: Sorry, no bash for beginners tonigt.
[02:32] <bankix> queso_: Perhaps write down the important steps:
[02:32] <queso_> bankix: lol
[02:32] <Radtoo> blognewb: I think the default would be your current user, so yes, I think you'd have to explicitly put root there...
[02:32] <queso_> bankix: sure, I'm willing to learn. :)
[02:32] <bankix> queso_: first you have to call "lsusb" and cut out busnumber and devicenumber.
[02:33] <blognewb> Radtoo: are there any ways to have filezilla prompt you for a root password when necessary?
[02:33] <Radtoo> blognewb: Uhm the password field is right next to the user field unless my memory is failing me, but I think it will prompt if you leave it blank...
[02:33] <blognewb> ..to avoid saving the root in settings
[02:33] <bankix> queso_: then wander through /sys/bus/usb/devices, with the for loop I posted. In $d is the name of the directory you test
[02:34] <bankix> queso_: Look if there is $d/busnum an $d/devnum (if [ -e $d/busnum -a $d/devnum ]; then)
[02:34] <th0r> blognewb: it is a very bad security practice to ftp to dirs that require root access. ftp to a dir in ~/ and then ssh to the server and move the files using sudo
[02:34] <bankix> queso_: Then look into busnum and devnum, and compare it to the numbers you got from lspci.
[02:35] <bankix> queso_: If both match, $d is the usb device directory of the device you were looking for.
[02:35] <blognewb> th0r: sorry what's ~/?
[02:36] <th0r> blognewb: your home directory (/home/username/)
[02:36] <blognewb> oh home
[02:36] <bankix> queso_: If you need the /sys/devices/pci* path, simply call "readlink $d", this will return you the relative path. Prepend $d, and you get the absolute path.
[02:36] <Radtoo> th0r: that isn't really safer than sftp though, save for using two passwords instead of one (if both are bad it doesn't matter much tho, and if one is strong its all good anyways)
[02:36] <bankix> queso_: that should be all.
[02:36] <queso_> bankix: great, thanks for your time, I really appreciate it.
[02:36] <t23> anyone use airodump ?
[02:37] <streblo> i'm looking to get apache up and running on ubuntu 9.04, is there an easy way to do this?
[02:37] <t23> or aircrack?
[02:37] <Pici> !lamp | streblo
[02:37] <bankix> queso_: Good luck. It's not too hard, looking to half a dozend bash script should teach you enough.
[02:37] <th0r> Radtoo: it isn't so much for hacker security...there can be occasions where what you upload overwrites something in, say /usr/bin, and locks everything up. Doing the move separately attempts to circumvent that possibility
[02:37] <blognewb> th0r: so.. i can't ftp anywhere but ~/ as best practices?
[02:38] <grendal_prime> Im trying to install glipper.i keep getting this... 302 Found [IP: 91.189.88.140 80]??
[02:38] <th0r> Radtoo: the mv command is much quicker than the ftp....so locks up the file for a much shorter time
[02:38] <streblo> ubottu, i'm not looking for a lamp server, i'm going to be using this box to host a django app in the future, but right now all i'd like to do is get apache working
[02:38] <queso_> bankix: I'll probably be able to figure it out now.  Thanks again :)
[02:38] <streblo> err
[02:38] <streblo> Pici, i'm not looking for a lamp server, i'm going to be using this box to host a django app in the future, but right now all i'd like to do is get apache working
[02:38] <th0r> blognewb: see what I just sent Radtoo
[02:38] <Pici> streblo: sudo apt-get install apache2  will install apache.
[02:38] <grendal_prime> i run the reload and it still says its available but the server is offline?
[02:38] <styol> gogeta you around
[02:38] <boss_mc> streblo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[02:39] <gogeta> styol: yea
[02:39] <styol> mdg thank you so much for all your help, you rockith so hard
[02:39] <streblo> Pici, how do i run apache
[02:39] <styol> gogeta eebuntu works great and its pretty awesome
[02:39] <styol> my wifi works
[02:39] <styol> im stoked
[02:39] <Radtoo> th0r: hemm that seems very unlikely to me, given how linux filesystems and inodes work, but ... I guess you can kill things if you partially upload a set of binaries / libraries, and mv "might" be fast enough. :P
[02:39] <boss_mc> streblo: it starts by itself
[02:39] <gogeta> styol: :)
[02:39] <Pici> streblo: It should be setup a system daemon as soon as you install it
[02:39] <Kevin1a> !Brasero
[02:39] <streblo> boss_mc, where is my public html folder?
[02:40] <th0r> Radtoo: yeah....it is  just an extra step that might prevent a very big headache. I always have ~/temp...ftp to that and then move everything where it goes using ssh and maybe sudo mc
[02:40] <bankix> streblo: IMHO /var/lib/apache or /var/lib/httpd
[02:40] <Radtoo> th0r: I personally... would just not move binaries between systems except with a package manger. Really. You always mess up some linkage. :)
[02:41] <th0r> Radtoo: yeah...exactly my point <smile>.
[02:41] <streblo> bankix, neither of those exist yet, should i create them?
[02:41] <bankix> Radtoo: Uh, I did wrote a script for that some time ago...
[02:41] <boss_mc> streblo: it's in /var/www/ but you can move it, (see the link I sent you, the bit about sites)
[02:41] <bankix> streblo: No, then they're somewhere else.
[02:42] <e_t> hi i have an ati radeon hd 4670 and i cannot get the drivers to work in jaunty or hardy
[02:42] <cjae> how do I install gpg key via command line? its something like sudo apt-key -add XXXXXXX -import
[02:43] <Radtoo> bankix: In the case of actual packages, its easier than that - I'd just make the machines in question mirrors that the package manager consults. There's a failover if packages don't exist anyhow, so partial mirroring is okay.
[02:45] <Radtoo> bankix: Anyhow, I think I'm side-tracking here. Sorry about that. So, did either method work to transfer your files?
[02:46] <imran> Is there a server to talk about apps/games???
[02:46] <imran> Sorry i know thats off topic but i thought someone here would know more.
[02:48] <uber_noober> imran: #linux-gamers.net
[02:48] <cjae> !pgp
[02:51] <tuntun> Can gparted enlarge a partition without moving all of the files already on the partition?
[02:52] <gogeta> tuntun: yes
[02:52] <Radtoo> tuntun: in some cases but almost always only when there's free space at the end of said partition
[02:53] <gogeta> Radtoo: you can grow ext3 safely
[02:54] <tuntun> I tried to enlarge my ntfs partition, but when it said it would be moving 100's of GB's I cancelled the operation.
[02:55] <Guest58714> hay guys does anybody know how to burn a movie onto a cd/dvd
[02:55] <Radtoo> gogeta: sure, but not towards the beginning. and there's the possibility people use luks / lvm / truecrypt, that also doesn't need to work with gparted. And they don't all use ext3. :)
[02:56] <Guest58714> hay i need to know
[02:56] <zhoujingrui> how to though GFW under  ubuntu?
[02:56] <zhoujingrui> thanks
[02:57] <uber_noober> Guest58714: growisofs -dvd-compat -speed=N -Z /dev/dvd=movie.iso
[02:57] <cyberix> http://iki.fi/toni.ruottu/wubidawg.png
[02:57] <cyberix> ;-)
[02:57] <Radtoo> tuntun: is this a ntfs created by vista? you might get a faster / better result if you used the OS that uses ntfs to resize.
[02:57] <Guest58714> does anybody know how to burn a dvd/movie
[02:57] <uber_noober> Guest58714: growisofs -dvd-compat -speed=N -Z /dev/dvd=movie.iso
[02:58] <Guest58714> what is it
[02:58] <uber_noober> Guest58714: using command line
[02:58] <Guest58714> but how do i do that
[02:58] <zhoujingrui> GFW
[02:58] <th0r> Guest58714: you press the G key, then the R key, then the O key
[02:58] <tuntun> gogeta, can it enlarge the partition from the front without moving 100's of GB's?
[02:59] <Guest58714> will i got then off a website
[02:59] <ryan8403> any recommended programs for checking for duplicate files (specifically audio files)
[03:00] <SkippyDigits_> hey  all -  i a noob to ubuntu - thanks bunches to who ever wrote the windows installer - works like a charm
[03:00] <Radtoo> ryan8403: For exact matches, fslint isn't bad. I can't recomend any fuzzy audio search things though.
[03:00] <uber_noober> Guest58714: you need the VIDEO_TS and AUDIO_TS of the DVD and burn them to your own DVD. Should compress them though cause reg DVD is DVD 9 (>8GB)
[03:00] <Guest58714> so can yall help meout
[03:01] <Sahdos> Guest58714: you can type "/nick yournickname" to personalize your nickname
[03:01] <uber_noober> Guest58714: should warn you, making copies of DVDs in the US is *illegal*
[03:01] <Guest58714> i understand buit i still dont know how to
[03:01] <ryan8403> Radtoo, thanks. tried checking the repo for something that would jump out at me but didn't seem to have the right words
[03:01] <Sahdos> uber_noober: I think fair use allows one copy
[03:01] <tuntun> Can gparted enlarge an ntfs partition from the front without moving 100's of GB's?
[03:01] <Sahdos> uber_noober: at least that's how it was with vhs
[03:01] <Guest58714> what if i am not from the usa
[03:01] <th0r> Sahdos: not a copy downloaded from a website
[03:01] <Radtoo> tuntun: Let me answer this. No. And using linux to resize ntfs is slightly dangerous as well.
[03:01] <uber_noober> Sahdos: Lol...no, the law is very explicit about that
[03:02] <Sahdos> th0r: what if they already own it?
[03:02] <uber_noober> Sahdos: in the US that is
[03:02] <centinul> mido: still no luck
[03:02] <th0r> Sahdos: then why spend all that time downloading when you could create the iso in a quarter the time
[03:02] <Sahdos> uber_noober: about a single copy being okay?  or that you can't download a copy?
[03:02] <Sahdos> th0r: so downloading is illegal, not copying the dvd
[03:03] <uber_noober> Sahdos: no copies can be made as I read the law
[03:03] <winkman> Hi, I'm running Xubuntu 9.04 Jaunty on a toshiba laptop, with a Trident graphics card, and I am unable to use the Fn + F5 key to use multiple monitors. Can someone please point me in the right direction?
[03:03] <freemen> java puntime environment
[03:03] <Sahdos> uber_noober: that's news to me
[03:03] <ryan8403> uber_noober, while fair use is not well defined, the courts seem to support backup copies and media transformation (dvd to say disc image)
[03:03] <Sahdos> uber_noober: not that I'm an expert
[03:03] <freemen> hello every 1 i have this proplem ples help i have ubtmnt
[03:03] <freemen> java puntime environment
[03:04] <uber_noober> guys its not the fair use issue but the breaking of the encryption that has been interpreted as no copy permitted
[03:04] <winkman> Does anyone know of an auto-configure for X.org in Xubuntu?
[03:04] <uber_noober> Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) makes it illegal to bypass DRM on a CD or DVD for any reason.
[03:04] <freemen> hello ples help  i have this prablim java puntime environment
[03:04] <tylenol> winkman: i think 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' should do it
[03:05] <ryan8403> uber_noober, right right, forgot about that little bugger,
[03:05] <uber_noober> lol
[03:05] <chris99> Yea and it is this that also stops us from watching DVD's on our Desktops as well
[03:05] <Radtoo> uber_noober: I explicitly am allowed todo this here, but I'm not in the states. In fact I would even be allowed to if I made a competing product and needed to establish compatibility in one way or another. :)
[03:05] <th0r> Sahdos: uber_noober I think the real question is, is a script kiddie who doesn't recognize a command line really  making a legit backup
[03:05] <uber_noober> this country is run by lawyers
[03:05] <uber_noober> th)r: i agree
[03:05] <queso_> I want to turn off usb autosuspend for a specific device.  can I just sudo vi /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:04.1/usb1/1-2/power/autosuspend and change from "2" to "-1"?
[03:05] <Sahdos> th0r: I just want to know when it's actually breaking the law
[03:06] <ryan8403> th0r, agreed
[03:06] <freemen> java puntime environment
[03:06] <freemen> hello java puntime environment
[03:06] <uber_noober> Radtoo: use vobcopy to grab the VIDEO and AUDIO TS files and make an iso then burn it..Vobcopy should compress to <4.7 GB
[03:06] <uber_noober> or use dvdrip
[03:06] <chris99> When you copy or play it and bypass the encryption you are breaking the low
[03:06] <chris99> low = law
[03:06] <ryan8403> personally if its for me as a backup/watch on plane/trip whatever i'm of the mind set who cares but thats me
[03:06] <uber_noober> Radtoo: Here: http://www.bunkus.org/dvdripping4linux/single/
[03:07] <mountainsun_> Hello
[03:07] <freemen> java puntime environment
[03:07] <Radtoo> uber_noober: Ah, I don't need the info, just contributing that this DMCA law doesn't apply everywhere.
[03:08] <uber_noober> Radtoo: its illegal in whatever country that ratified the World Intellectual Property Organization
[03:08] <Sahdos> I'm sure DMCA law applies in California
[03:08] <mountainsun_> WOndering if anyone can help with permission denied error
[03:08] <mountainsun_> cant boot jaunty
[03:08] <mountainsun_> due to error i made in psydm
[03:08] <uber_noober> Sahdos: especially
[03:09] <ctmjr> !ot
[03:09] <Sahdos> uber_noober: no kidding
[03:09] <Sahdos> uber_noober:  especially southern
[03:09] <mountainsun_> x
[03:09] <bankix> queso_: You'll have to change it to -1
[03:09] <bankix> queso_: e.g. by echo: "echo -1 > /where/the/device/file/is"
[03:10] <queso_> bankix: how do I change it?  I tried sudo vi, it didn't like that, lol
[03:10] <sin> I'm trying to run simcity 3000 and I get this error while loading shared libraries: libpthread.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory. I have libpthread.so.0 in /lib
[03:10] <sin> can anyone help
[03:10] <Sahdos> anyone know how to make all printing to be green on a black background :)
[03:10] <queso_> bankix: aah, cool, I'll give it a shot
[03:10] <bankix> queso_: Ah, better "echo -- -1" to avoid parameter confusion.
[03:10] <Radtoo> uber_noober: No, thats wrong, sorry. :)
[03:10] <Sahdos> correction, not printing...displayed text
[03:10] <uber_noober> Radtoo: I'm sorry what is?
[03:11] <bankix> queso_: Forget about the "--", just "echo -1". Echo doesn't recognize -- .
[03:11] <burkmat> Sahdos: ...what displayed text? There's a lot of text in Ubuntu. :P
[03:11] <queso_> bankix: that's weird, it says permission denied even when I sudo that
[03:11] <bankix> queso_: What device is it?
[03:11] <bankix> queso_: A harddisk?
[03:11] <queso_> bankix: no, it's a usb wireless adapter
[03:12] <bankix> queso_: I cite the documentation: +It is worth mentioning that many USB drivers don't support +autosuspend.  In fact, at the time of this writing (Linux 2.6.23) the +only drivers which do support it are the hub driver, kaweth, usblp, +usblcd, usb-skeleton (which doesn't count), and usb-storage.
[03:12] <SkippyDigits_> does ubuntu come with vi?
[03:12] <Radtoo> uber_noober: That WIPO ratification = DMCA applies. Its really US national law. WIPO merely pushes for similar restrictions everywhere and some countries adopted some similar laws (but usually less extreme than the DCMA)... ahwell. Laws. :)
[03:12] <queso_> bankix: intermittently my internet access will be lost and the only way to restore it is by rebooting (restarting network doesn't work).  a co-worker suggested it might be the power/autosuspend for usb that is turning it off.
[03:12] <mountainsun_> can anyone help,
[03:12] <mountainsun_> can boot from usual place
[03:12] <mountainsun_> /dev/sdc1
[03:12] <mountainsun_> due to permissions error
[03:12] <FloodBot1> mountainsun_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:12] <mountainsun_> how does one edit permissions from live disk (how I am tying this)
[03:12] <Sahdos> burkmat: actually, my problem is really on websites now
[03:12] <uber_noober> Radtoo: true enough
[03:13] <Sahdos> burkmat:  the greasemonkey script I tried didn't work...
[03:13] <uber_noober> mountainsun: chmod 755 /dev/sdc1
[03:13] <burkmat> Sahdos: ...you want to change the way websites look? Uhm... I guess you could change the default fonts and set up something in greasemonkey...
[03:13] <bankix> queso_: Ah!
[03:13] <Sahdos> burkmat:  I'm not even sure if it's possible
[03:13] <queso_> bankix: ooh :( so either I have been going down the wrong path, or I need to disable autosuspend for the whole hub?
[03:13] <bankix> queso: Which command did you enter? Please be exact.
[03:14] <burkmat> Sahdos: Definitely possible, just... very very useless and unnecessary. And probably difficult. :P
[03:14] <queso_> bankix: which command?  it was this:  sudo echo -1 > /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:04.1/usb1/1-2/power/autosuspend
[03:14] <Sahdos> burkmat: not useless and unnecessary.  I find it aesthetically pleasing
[03:14] <Anita> whats the recommended processor type for ubtunu? amd or intel?
[03:14] <Flannel> Anita: Doesn't matter
[03:15] <bankix> queso_: Hehehe, everybody gets trapped some day ;-)
[03:15] <Sahdos> burkmat: it helps me tolerate staring on the screen for extended stretches
[03:15] <p1und3r> anita: i used AMD64 with ubuntu 64-bit and it works like a charm
[03:15] <Anita> oh cool
[03:15] <uber_noober> Anita: intel is thinking about integrating Nvidia in the processors so I'd bet them
[03:15] <bankix> queso_: "echo -1" is executed as root. But you redirect the output of sudo -- as normal user.
[03:15] <navatwo> guys, so, I cant find nvidia drivers, how do I install them?
[03:15] <queso_> bankix: ooh, I get trapped on a regular basis, lol.
[03:15] <bankix> queso_: Therefor the permission is denied.
[03:15] <uber_noober> Anita: but AMD is excellent too
[03:15] <Anita> hmm, kewlies =o
[03:16] <Radtoo> Anita: Well actually you could be using fairly wild CPUs with linux. But intel / amd have got plenty of good cpu and all work out of the box.
[03:16] <centinul> anyone have any luck getting a 1360x768 resolution with a samsung tv?
[03:16] <bankix> queso_: Do it as root: "sudo su -" then the echo line again.
[03:16] <burkmat> Sahdos: Well, while I might agree with that (currently using irssi with green on black :P), it's going to mess things up. When someone designs a website they have a certain design in mind, changing the way things are displayed might give you a lot of strange things to deal with. FOr instance, a green background - then your script changed text to green... Such things.
[03:16] <queso_> bankix: doh!  would sudo `echo -1 > /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:04.1/usb1/1-2/power/autosuspend` work?
[03:16] <bankix> queso_: Due you embedd the command into the script later and call the whole script via sudo, everything will work properly.
[03:16] <Anita> well, thats all i need to know... for now x3 arigato!
[03:16] <Flannel> queso_, bankix: echo "-1" | sudo tee /sys/whatever/whatever
[03:17] <mountainsun_> thx uber
[03:17] <uber_noober> np
[03:17] <burkmat> Sahdos: actually changed my display colors a long time ago, and it was a pain in the ass browsing. everything gets distorted, and more often than not you need to highlight the text to even be able to see it ;)
[03:17] <Radtoo> Anita: There's even an optimized version of ubutu for intel atom cpu based netbooks (save power if you dont need processing power... :))
[03:17] <bankix> queso_: Quoting it doesn't help.
[03:17] <DJ_X-Ray> Yooo:D
[03:17] <burkmat> Radtoo: What's it called?
[03:17] <queso_> bankix: okay, your method worked
[03:18] <DJ_X-Ray> Yaahoo
[03:18] <Sahdos> burkmat: display colors and background colors?
[03:18] <queso_> Flannel: thx :)
[03:18] <DJ_X-Ray> LINUX<3
[03:18] <navatwo> guys, so, I cant find nvidia drivers, how do I install them? They are not in the Administration -> Hardware drivers
[03:18] <bankix> queso_: Then embedd that command into your script and give it a shot.
[03:18] <Flannel> queso_, bankix: echo -1 | sudo tee /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:04.1/usb1/1-2/power/autosuspend is the best way to do it
[03:18] <uber_noober> mountainsun_: file permissions are set in this mode: user, group, all. So 0 is no permission and 7 is all permission. 755 has user all permission and group and others have read write but no execute
[03:18] <queso_> bankix: It wrote it, great!  now to see if it helps :) if it does, I will make a script somehow to do that on bootup
[03:18] <burkmat> Sahdos: on websites, yes. since your preferences collide with css and html and whatnot... it just tends to get very hard to browse :)
[03:18] <centinul> my flat panel tv is reporting the wrong resolution, how do i fix that?
[03:18] <bankix> Flannel: He's writing a script.
[03:19] <Radtoo> burkmat: About the version of ubunutu? http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download-netbook <- this one
[03:19] <Flannel> bankix: If he's doing it at bootup, it'll already be executing as root
[03:19] <burkmat> Radtoo: Thanks.
[03:19] <mountainsun_> uber, terminal reports operations not permitted?
[03:19] <mountainsun_> chmod: changing permissions of `/dev/sdc1': Operation not permitted
[03:19] <Sahdos> burkmat: i already have challenges with my ubuntu theme
[03:19] <queso_> bankix: my script is probably not following the best procedures. I just echo'd the directory, then tailed the $d/busnum and $d/devnum to find the right combination, lol
[03:19] <uber_noober> run it as sudo
[03:19] <Flannel> but, if you do need to do what most people think of as "sudo echo > whatever" the proper version of that is echo | tee whatever (or tee -a if you ened o append)
[03:19] <Radtoo> burkmat: http://www.canonical.com/projects/ubuntu/unr <- actually, this is an even better link
[03:19] <Sahdos> burkmat: do you use a greasemonkey script?
[03:19] <uber_noober> mountainsun_: sudo chmod 755 /dev/sdc1
[03:20] <DJ_X-Ray> exit
[03:20] <bankix> queso_: Paste it me to paste.ubuntu.com, I'll have a look.
[03:20] <navatwo> Folks, I cant find the nvidia drivers, how do I find/install them? They are not in the Administration -> Hardware drivers
[03:20] <noquinho> hi friends! please help! how can i do to save my visual effects ? Everytime when i turn on my pc, the compiz is not working again
[03:21] <SimonS> visit nVidia webside
[03:21] <mountainsun_> That would be perfect but operation not permitted?
[03:21] <navatwo> noquinho: #compiz
[03:21] <burkmat> Sahdos: Changed all system-wide default fonts and for browsing, yes, greasemonkey.
[03:21] <noquinho> how ?
[03:22] <ctmjr> navatwo: you can try the legacy drivers from nvidia or the open-source driver if there is no driver option in hardware  drivers go to nvidia website and find your card it will let you know what driver to download
[03:22] <queso_> bankix: http://paste.ubuntu.com/247641/
[03:22] <uber_noober> navatwo: in terminal "sudo aptitude search nvidia" w/o quotes and look for nvidia glx
[03:22] <zachinneed> so im new here and i love ubuntu alot but now i have to figure out how to get flas to work on my computer dose any  one have any tips for me
[03:22] <mountainsun_> This started from my rookie tinkering to get folders on same drive shared over network thru psydm
[03:22] <mountainsun_> could see but not copy to; tried to change via sudo psydm, and now cannot boot jaunty
[03:23] <bankix> queso_: Okay, there's missing something ;-)
[03:23] <burkmat> zachinneed: adobe flash?
[03:23] <navatwo> uber_noober: what do I do from this point?
[03:23] <zachinneed> yes
[03:23] <burkmat> !flash
[03:23] <queso_> bankix: lol! I'm sure there's a lot missing ;)
[03:23] <navatwo> It just says p nvidia-glx
[03:24] <bankix> queso_: To read the first line of file "busnum" into the variable busnumber, use "read busnumber < busnum"
[03:24] <zachinneed> well for some reson it is on there but wont work
[03:24] <zachinneed> that is my problem
[03:24] <uber_noober> navatwo: well if it is not installed install it if you want but that is the generic driver. Did you try going through System > Preferences > Hardware and install it from there?
[03:24] <navatwo> uber_noober: its not there..
[03:24] <uber_noober> navatwo: what did the search return?
[03:24] <navatwo> in system etc. And what do you mean install it?
[03:25] <bankix> queso_: To compare two variables, use: if [ "$var1" = "$var2" ]; then
[03:25] <kingmanor> whats the file i need to edit to add a few lines to run at boot
[03:25] <bankix> queso_: To compare two sets, you can use: if [ "$var1a" = "$var1b" -a "$var2a" = "$var2b" ]; then
[03:25] <uber_noober> navatwo: dude here http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-nvidia-drivers-in-ubuntu-feisty-or-later-versions.html
[03:26] <navatwo> uber_noober: http://paste.ubuntu.com/247644/
[03:26] <khelivol> 阿~
[03:26] <queso_> bankix: the "-a" is OR?
[03:26] <khelivol> what's this ~?
[03:26] <zachinneed> no i didnt is that a good way
[03:27] <bankix> queso_: No, -a is and, -o is or.
[03:27] <frisc0> I have a flashed drive that has been write protected somehow.  How do I remove the write protection on the fash drive.  What is the command?
[03:27] <navatwo> uber_noober: there is no option..
[03:27] <uber_noober> navatwo: you have the drivers available already
[03:27] <navatwo> frisc0: use chmod?
[03:27] <mdg> gogeta: hey, can you help styol troubleshoot wifi - he updated and wifi stopped working
[03:27] <navatwo> uber_noober: then what do I need to do? I always feel silly with this.
[03:27] <queso_> bankix: awesome :)
[03:28] <khelivol> aha ... i know
[03:28] <uber_noober> navatwo: what exactly is the issue with your display? By the looks of it your nvidia generic drivers including the kernel modules are already installed. So what is happening to your display?
[03:29] <queso_> bankix: you are giving me a scripting lesson after all ;)
[03:29] <bankix> queso_: Okay, last step: How to get the numbers out of lsusb.
[03:29] <Drained> good evening everyone.
[03:29] <navatwo> uber_noober: compiz does not work
[03:29] <bankix> queso_: I did notice......
[03:29] <navatwo> I cant use any window animations
[03:29] <Drained> Anyone know how to solve my OpenGL problems i have the 180 driver installed.
[03:29] <uber_noober> navatwo: looks like drained has the same issue
[03:29] <queso_> bankix: use regex somehow?
[03:29] <bankix> queso_: The bus number: lsusb | grep "ID 152d:2329" | cut -d":" -f1 |cut -d" " -f2
[03:30] <Drained> oh god, not someone else too!
[03:30] <navatwo> uber_noober: where?
[03:30] <bankix> queso_: And the device number: lsusb | grep "ID 152d:2329" | cut -d":" -f1 |cut -d" " -f4
[03:30] <navatwo> oh
[03:30] <navatwo> :P
[03:30] <Drained> CURSE U OPENGL
[03:30] <navatwo> Drained: mind helping me out then>
[03:30] <Drained> i have the same problem lol.
[03:30] <bankix> queso_: Where "152d:2329" is the USB vendor/product ID of your wireless stick.
[03:30] <Drained> After struggling all day to install the driver without Xorg config messing up, i still get openGL error's ha..
[03:31] <queso_> bankix: so cool, thanks so much.
[03:31] <Drained> What's the command in the terminal too check if your graphics card can handle opengl?
[03:31] <bankix> queso_: You may insert a space before the last "cut" if you like.
[03:31] <Drained> my gpu CAN it supports 2.0 but idk.
[03:31] <commodore256> I got opengl 1.2
[03:31] <commodore256> that sucks
[03:32] <bankix> queso_: Ah, I forgot: You'll have to put the result into a variable:
[03:32] <frisc0> uber_noober, permission is fine on the flash disk.  /media/disk is rwx for my_user and group is root.  Any other suggestions?
[03:32] <Drained> so ne1 know the Grep command thing in terminal to display graphics card support?
[03:32] <bankix> queso_: varname=$(commandline)
[03:32] <queso_> bankix: I don't know script etiquette . . is this a script that will be designed to run by root?
[03:32] <ctmjr> Drained glxinfo | grep render
[03:32] <bankix> queso_: The script must run as root because of the echo to the sysfs-file.
[03:32] <Drained> ctmjr: thank you kind sire.
[03:32] <Drained> WOAH?
[03:32] <Drained> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[03:33] <Drained> i get spammed that for infinate amount of lines
[03:33] <uber_noober> frisc0: i'm sorry ... are you having issues w/ read/write/execute or what
[03:33] <queso_> bankix: after I have the script complete, where is the standard place to put something like this, and where do I add it so it runs at boot?
[03:33] <Drained> anyone know how to fix that lol?
[03:34] <bankix> queso_: And you'll have to get rid of the leading zeros in the busnumber/devicenumber: $varname=${varname##0}
[03:34] <frisc0> uber_noober, I can't write to the flash disk even though chmod is rwx for user some_user.  Write also failing for flash disk on windows too.
[03:34] <uber_noober> Drained: you can try to reconfigure X with sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg. Back up first tho
[03:35] <Drained> how do i backup ?
[03:35] <frisc0> could the flash drive be corrupted?
[03:35] <bankix> queso_: You could put it in /usr/local/sbin, or /usr/sbin. To have it called at boot time is a very very different thing...
[03:35] <ctmjr> Drained: it seems glx is not loading look in here for configuration options  man nvidia-xconfig
[03:35] <uber_noober> Drained: just copy current xorg file to xorgfilename.bak
[03:35] <bankix> queso_: The _right_ way would be to write an udev rule where the autosuspend is disabled when the stick is inserted or detected.
[03:35] <Drained> nvidia-xconfig <== configures X i belive
[03:36] <uber_noober> frisc0: what's the filesystem type?
[03:36] <Drained> which always crashes my X lol
[03:36] <bankix> queso_: But not this night.....
[03:36] <frisc0> uber_noober, flash disk is vfat.
[03:36] <Drained> oh, goodie ctmjr: i have errors :)
[03:36] <queso_> bankix: write a udev rule?  okay, I'll keep that in mind for the future. for now, I can just run the script after I boot (which presumably won't be often if turning autosuspend off solves my problem)
[03:37] <Drained> ctmjr: this is my output http://pastebin.ca/1518678
[03:37] <uber_noober> frisc0: try setting the uid to 1000
[03:37] <uber_noober> frisc0: when u mount
[03:37] <mountainsun> Can anyone help, cannot boot Ubuntu
[03:37] <frisc0> uber_noober, how do you do that?
[03:37] <mountainsun> Permissions denied error 225
[03:38] <queso_> bankix: thanks again so much for your help, you've been quite thorough in your setting me off in the right direction.  and I'm not so frightened by scripts anymore, lol
[03:38] <bankix> queso_: For now, call the script before "exit 0" in /etc/rc.local.
[03:39] <Drained> when i ran nvidia-xconfig i get this http://pastebin.ca/1518678
[03:39] <ctmjr> Drained: can you paste your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[03:39] <Drained> yeah sure
[03:39] <mdg> gogeta: ???
[03:39] <uber_noober> frisc0: sudo mount /dev/sdb /media/disk -o iocharset=utf8,umask=000,uid=1000 wheresdb is your flash drive and disk is your mount point
[03:39] <bankix> queso_: But first test it as root for a few times by calling it from commandline and checking the content of the autosuspend file.
[03:39] <beep> mountainsun: a silly question: do you have the right permissions on the mount point (not the device)
[03:39] <beep> ?
[03:39] <bankix> queso_: To be sure it works properly.
[03:39] <gogeta> mdg: yea
[03:39] <queso_> bankix: okay, yes, I will be sure to do that
[03:40] <mountainsun> beep, heck no, thats the prob
[03:40] <grendal_prime> ok so glipper blows
[03:40] <Drained> ctmj:http://pastebin.ca/1518684
[03:40] <mountainsun> i "edited" them, and now cannot mount
[03:40] <uber_noober> Drained: try running it as root
[03:40] <grendal_prime> it crashes everytime i boot my machine
[03:40] <Drained> i was already sudo Su
[03:40] <mountainsun> how does one set them back to normal in fstab or riht clicking on it (have it mounted in live cd session)
[03:41] <bankix> queso_: Have a closer look to the bash manpage. It's a programming manual. There you'll find things like "${name##pattern}" for string manipulation and much more.
[03:42] <frisc0> uber_noober, how do you find sdb for the flash drive?  I have plugged into flash drives.
[03:42] <beep> mountainsun: I don't remember, but man mount should help
[03:43] <queso_> bankix: I'm definitely going to do that, thanks -- now I'll be able to do some of this at work. I'm a web developer and work in linux but this script is for my home machine.
[03:43] <uber_noober> frisc0: sudo fdisk -l
[03:43] <mountainsun> thx beep loking there now
[03:43] <bankix> OK, I'm off then. goodnight...
[03:44] <queso_> bankix: goodnight! :D
[03:44] <mdg> gogeta: what does eeebuntu use as far as amodule for bcm43 wifi card?
[03:44] <beep> mountainsun: otherwise: if you can mount your disk with your livecd, try typying "mount" in a terminal and look for your device
[03:44] <mountainsun> just mount?
[03:44] <beep> mountainsun: you should see pretty default options
[03:44] <Drained> Ctmjr: you get anything?
[03:44] <beep> mountainsun: yea
[03:44] <uber_noober> mountainsun: sudo fdisk -l will list your drives
[03:45] <ctmjr> Drained: run glxinfo | grep render again please
[03:45] <mountainsun> thx, the one i need is /dev/sdc1
[03:45] <Drained> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[03:45] <Drained> spammed for ever.
[03:45] <uber_noober> mountainsun: ok whats the file system type?
[03:45] <mountainsun> 3 sata drives installed, only one running os
[03:45] <mountainsun> (jaunty)
[03:46] <Yud_Zroc> flash problems anyone free to help
[03:46] <uber_noober> mountainsun: how many os-es do you have installed?
[03:46] <grendal_prime> is there a way in nautilus to make a simlink?
[03:46] <mountainsun> Uber, just 1
[03:47] <mountainsun> 3 hd's.
[03:47] <mountainsun> one for storage, one for virtual windows xp sess
[03:47] <Yud_Zroc> !flash
[03:47] <uber_noober> your problem might be with grub not mount points
[03:47] <mountainsun> and one for jaunty
[03:48] <uber_noober> you say you get error 25 when you boot right?
[03:48] <mountainsun> this all stated with me editing psydm
[03:48] <mountainsun> i was trying to share files on the affected disc
[03:48] <mountainsun> sort of, error 225
[03:48] <uber_noober> what do you mean sort of?
[03:48] <mountainsun> permission denied
[03:49] <mountainsun> no - its 225
[03:50] <blognewb> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nqw1yjyKEs
[03:50] <mountainsun> uber, sorry miseed that 1st ?, its ext3 file type
[03:50] <uber_noober> mountainsun: that is really strange
[03:51] <Flannel> blognewb: er. please take offtopic stuff elsewhere, thanks.
[03:51] <Drained> !offtopic | blognewb
[03:51] <blognewb> sorry
[03:51] <Drained> CTmjr: you leave lol?
[03:52] <Drained> does anyone know how to UNinstall nvidia drivers
[03:52] <Drained> maybe a clean install will fix this horrid problem.
[03:52] <ctmjr> Drained: no still here where did you get the driver from?
[03:53] <Drained> The "hardware drivers"
[03:53] <Drained> in sys>admin>
[03:53] <perturbed> what does this command do .... dpkg --get-selections | grep deinstall$ | cut -f1 | xargs sudo dpkg --purge
[03:53] <perturbed> help me please
[03:53] <Drained> ctmjr: how do i uninstall the driver, maybe a fresh install of the driver will fix it.
[03:54] <ctmjr> Drained: in the hardware tab where you installed them from
[03:54] <perturbed> anybody with the answer ?
[03:55] <mountainsun> i agree, or uncheck the box in add remove progrms
[03:55] <ayy> jayapura
[03:55] <Drained> everything started when i downloaded the drivers from nvidia's site.
[03:55] <Drained> X config kept getting screwed up :\
[03:55] <ctmjr> Drained: you installed the hardware drivers and the drivers from nvidia?
[03:56] <Casey> i'm moving files on my ubuntu from one harddrive to anothere and some of the files don't copy and says input/output error what should I do?
[03:56] <Drained> i did both, seperatley.
[03:56] <Shu> Can anyone help me?
[03:56] <tubunu> i installed gnome on ubuntu and would like to remove some programs like ekiga, gnome-games, etc. when i try it says it will uninstall gnome o.o any thoughts?
[03:56] <Drained> the hardware drivers tab would give me "backend problem" so i used nvidia's those failed, and i used the backup xconfig that fixed X
[03:56] <ctmjr> Drained: without uninstalling one first?
[03:56] <Drained> then i was able to install 180's
[03:56] <bruenig> tubunu: that is a flaw in apt
[03:57] <Shu> Is everyone asking for help here?
[03:57] <Drained> i don't think the one from nvidia was installed.
[03:57] <tubunu> bruenig: so they can't be removed at all?
[03:57] <Casey> what you guys think/
[03:57] <bruenig> tubunu: apt doesn't have the ability to group packages, so ubuntu gets around it by creating hackish meta-packages that poorly emulate groups but lead to dependency screw ups like the one you are experiencing. If it just says it will uninstall "gnome", then it is safe. As gnome is just one such metapackage.
[03:57] <Yud_Zroc> i think i am having a problem with flash
[03:58] <bruenig> tubunu: if it is trying to uninstall a bunch of stuff that depends on gnome as well, then you have to live with it
[03:58] <tward> #security-shell
[03:58] <Casey> i'm moving files on my ubuntu from one harddrive to anothere and some of the files don't copy and says input/output error what should I do?
[03:59] <tubunu> bruenig: I see, what package name to i have to make sure it doesn't uninstall so it keeps the gnome desktop environment?
[03:59] <Drained> Hey Ctmjr do you think a reinstall of ubuntu will help? it's a problem i dont want to go through to fix since ive spent all day trying to fix it.
[03:59] <ctmjr> Drained: ok this is what you need to do uninstall everything you installed (nvidia) then run this sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg, then reboot and try the drivers from ubuntu again
[03:59] <Shoe> I just finished installing Ubuntu. My computer does not connect to the internet automatically, I have to put a wireless USB adapter into it to connect to the internet. But, when I put in my installation CD, it doesn't autorun. So I explored the disk, and it had 8 options, none of which did anything, or had an error. So how can I install the software so I can use this shit?
[03:59] <zachinneed> well hello again to all well i  read alot of stuff on how to install the flash driver and for some reson i cant get it to work   what happend was i had version 8.04 and disided to switch to 9.04 and then didnt really like it and couldnt get flash to work on it so i came back and now i cant get it to work for me on 8.04 aswell so  help is  would be nis
[03:59] <Drained> ctmjr: how do i uninstall something that isn't installed?
[04:00] <Drained> only Nvidia X config is installed right now
[04:00] <Casey> can some one help me
[04:00] <Drained> Casey
[04:00] <danbhfive> Shoe: what are you trying to install?
[04:00] <Drained> try sudo mv filename /filepath
[04:00] <anujsingh> hi everyone.
[04:01] <uber_noober> Drained: how did you install the driver
[04:01] <Drained> through the .run file
[04:01] <Shoe> danbhfive
[04:01] <anujsingh> can we use netbackup client without installing xinetd?
[04:01] <danbhfive> zachinneed: try installing ubuntu-restricted-extras
[04:01] <Shoe> a wireless adapter
[04:01] <Drained> which is located in /root/
[04:01] <navatwo> Drained: what card are you using?
[04:01] <Drained> 8600GTS
[04:01] <Casey> drained: what will that do
[04:01] <navatwo> hmm
[04:01] <Drained> Casey that's a terminal command to move an item.
[04:01] <Casey> ok
[04:02] <navatwo> Drained: I don't think mine is even to that caliber
[04:02] <Drained> what do you mean navatwo?
[04:02] <zachinneed> i whent to a site that requierd it and folowed  the steps
[04:02] <Casey> Drained: what about a folder
[04:02] <Drained> xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly-customised configuration
[04:02] <Drained>    file; backup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.20090804200112
[04:02] <danbhfive> Shoe: if that cd is a windows driver cd, you can use ndiswrapper to run it
[04:02] <danbhfive> Shoe: possibly
[04:02] <frisc0> I have something, application/octet-stream type in Trash folder, but cannot delete it because permission is root.  Tried this via gui.  I cd into local/share/Trash/files folder and did ls -lart, but application/octet-stream file doesn't show up.  Why and how to fix?
[04:02] <wmirc> hey guys, im on my phone.  i told ubuntu to resize a ntfs partiton from 260 gb to 150 gb and its taking forever without giving me eta.  how long can i expect to sit?
[04:02] <Drained> Caseyim not sure lol
[04:02] <Shoe> Does that come installed with Ubuntu?
[04:02] <Casey> ok
[04:02] <Drained> Shoe it does.
[04:02] <Drained> i had the same problem! it's really simple.
[04:02] <danbhfive> Shoe: no, but it comes on the install media
[04:03] <Shoe> Excellent
[04:03] <Casey> what does a input/output error mean
[04:03] <Shoe> Walk me through it please?
[04:03] <beep> wmirc, I did this with ubuntu 8.04 receantly
[04:03] <Drained> Shoe: what you do is put the CD in go into synpatic manager in system>administration
[04:03] <beep> wmirc, It took 5hrs!
[04:03] <navatwo> Drained: my card
[04:03] <Drained> and scroll to the "n's" under "all"
[04:03] <Drained> navatwo, what card you using?
[04:03] <driverman> jesus youre scaring me
[04:03] <ctmjr> Drained: you said you installed the ubuntu drivers and the drivers from nvidia when did you uninstall them?
[04:03] <Drained> shoe: then it will be ndisgtk or something really similar
[04:03] <navatwo> Drained: G105M
[04:03] <driverman> what are your specs beep?
[04:03] <Drained> ctmjr: i don't think they successfully installed.
[04:04] <Shoe> I'll look
[04:04] <Casey> could it be a problem with the fliesystem?
[04:04] <beep> driverman: I don't remember, it was a friend's computer
[04:04] <driverman> comp is brand new.  hd light going relentlessly
[04:04] <Shoe> drained: synaptic package manager?
[04:04] <Drained> yeah shoe.
[04:04] <mountainsun> DOes anyone know how to edit permissions on an ext3 hard drive so I can boot jaunty?
[04:05] <Drained> when you select it it should also select 2 others totaling "3" to install.
[04:05] <driverman> damn.  i had programming to do tonight.
[04:05] <mountainsun> Getting permissions denied error 225
[04:05] <Drained> then you'd go to system>administration> and on the last app it's "wireless drivers"
[04:05] <Shoe> IIIdrained: I opened it, now what?
[04:05] <driverman> i wonder if i can get gcc for this phone...
[04:05] <frisc0> uber_noober, I tried what you said but I still have the same problem.  In the trash I have some application/octet-steam file in it and root as the owner of the file.
[04:05] <Drained> Search for Ndisgtk
[04:05] <Drained> and if it turns up no result scroll to the "N" parts
[04:05] <Drained> and find it manually
[04:05] <zachinneed> what does broken dependencies mean any one know
[04:06] <Drained> and if it STILL doesn't show up you'll have to add the CD
[04:06] <uber_noober> frisc0: Try restoring the file then unmoun the drive
[04:06] <Drained> Shoe : Edit "add CD"
[04:06] <danbhfive> Shoe: sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils-1.9
[04:06] <Drained> he can't do that he has no internet connection..
[04:07] <Radtoo> Casey: it could possibly a filesystem issue, but hard disk drives also like to physically fail.
[04:07] <danbhfive> Drained: its the same as synaptic...
[04:07] <Shoe> I'm adding the CD
[04:07] <Drained> no it's not.
[04:07] <Drained> if the package doesn't exist because it hasn't been added, it wont find it.
[04:07] <Shoe> (it didn't show up on search or manually)
[04:07] <danbhfive> same as synaptic
[04:07] <Qu4R0w> how to start broadband on bt4?
[04:08] <Drained> ITS COMPLETLEY diffrent, ive gone through to process.
[04:08] <Drained> Shoe: did you have the ubuntu cd inside the cdrom tray?
[04:08] <Radtoo> Casey: running "smartctl -t long" or equal on the drive could fairly reliably help you determine whether there's a problem with the hardware.
[04:08] <navatwo> Drained: join #compiz we are working on finding drivers for nvidia
[04:08] <Shoe> No drained
[04:08] <Drained> Shoe: put it inside
[04:08] <Shoe> Oh
[04:08] <Drained> THEN load the CD through "edit>load cd-rom"
[04:09] <Shoe> I had my installation disk for the wireless adapter inside
[04:09] <Drained> just copy the inf and .sys file
[04:09] <Drained> from it
[04:09] <hisham> HEllo Everybody! I am stuck with shell problem. I started scripting in bash but one of my friends told me to do it in csh or korn so what should i do?
[04:09] <Shoe> uh, shit
[04:09] <Shoe> Now I can't eject the CD
[04:10] <Drained> uhh. if you have the browser open close it
[04:10] <Shoe> I did
[04:10] <ProfessorX> How do you update Ubuntu?
[04:10] <Drained> and if doesn't respond open terminal and type sudo eject lol.
[04:10] <Shoe> How do I open the terminal?
[04:10] <anujsingh> hi all
[04:10] <ProfessorX> How do I update Ubuntu?
[04:11] <Drained> applpications >accesories
[04:11] <Drained> professor System>administration>update
[04:11] <Casey> you think the input output error could be cause by a problem with the filesystem?
[04:11] <ProfessorX> Drained, GNOME is not install
[04:11] <anujsingh> i am facing problem in running bpcd daemon on ubuntu
[04:11] <anujsingh> http://pastebin.com/d6b8b5759
[04:11] <ProfessorX> Only have puTTy terminal
[04:11] <Shoe> Okay
[04:11] <Shoe> I've put in the ubuntu CD
[04:11] <anujsingh> it's a 64bit os
[04:11] <Shoe> Not go to add cd rom?
[04:11] <danbhfive> ProfessorX: do you want the latest packages? or do you want to get the next version?
[04:11] <Drained> Yeah shoe.
[04:12] <dotblank> does the ubuntu flash drive have dm crypt installed?
[04:12] <ProfessorX> Latest packages
[04:12] <zenwryly> mm, I upgrade to karmic and I can't figure out how to control the theme sound effects now.  ANy tips?
[04:12] <dotblank> I mean live cd
[04:12] <danbhfive> ProfessorX: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:12] <Casey> how do i fix a filesystem?
[04:12] <anujsingh> /usr/bin/ldd: line 171: /lib/ld-linux.so.2: No such file or directory
[04:12] <Shoe> "Do you want to add another CD-ROM?"
[04:12] <Drained> "no"
[04:12] <anujsingh> any idea?
[04:12] <Drained> then it should update your Packages
[04:12] <Qu4R0w> how to start broadband on bt4?
[04:13] <Drained> manually scroll to the n's
[04:13] <anujsingh> http://pastebin.com/d6b8b5759
[04:13] <Shoe> Well, now there's nothing
[04:13] <Shoe> \No packages
[04:13] <Drained> click a diffrent filder
[04:13] <ProfessorX> How do I install GNOME?
[04:13] <Drained> then click all again
[04:13] <Drained> pro, gnome is installed by default on jaunty i think
[04:13] <Casey> how do i fix a filesystem?
[04:13] <ProfessorX> I don't have jaunty
[04:13] <Shoe> I did, and still nothing
[04:13] <hisham> What is this "sh" shell? ITs a hell lot diferent than 'Bash"
[04:13] <Shoe> Oh, wait
[04:13] <Shoe> Got it
[04:14] <SnakDoc> Professorx gnome is default in ubuntu
[04:14] <elryry> how can i be a lot happier?
[04:14] <ProfessorX> Oh ok
[04:14] <elryry> format windows drive
[04:14] <elryry> ok fixed my own problem
[04:14] <SnakDoc> Professorx if you have something like kubuntu or xubuntu then its not
[04:14] <Shoe> I found ndisgtk
[04:14] <Shoe> Now what?
[04:14] <Qu4R0w> how to start broadband on bt4?
[04:15] <Shoe> drained
[04:15] <danbhfive> ProfessorX: you can just install the gnome package.  If you want the default gnome install, install ubuntu-desktop
[04:16] <Drained> Shoe: yea?
[04:16] <Shoe> What now?
[04:16] <Shoe> I found ndisgtk
[04:16] <spO> does mplayer or ubuntu have hot keys, like full window or not?
[04:16] <danbhfive> !fsck | Casey
[04:16] <hisham> Can anyone help me with this '"sh" shell thing? I cant understand it. Isnt the default shell bash in ubuntu??
[04:17] <Shoe> DRAINED
[04:17] <firecrotch> hisham: dash is the default shell in Ubuntu now
[04:17] <Shoe> danbhfive
[04:17] <Casey> ok
[04:17] <danbhfive> hisham: I think sh is just a posix compliant shell, ie, less features that bash
[04:17] <Drained> Shoe, ndiswrapper is already installed
[04:17] <Drained> now you need the .inf and .sys file for your wireless adapter.
[04:17] <Shoe> I don't know what that means
[04:18] <Shoe> Oh
[04:18] <Shoe> So, put the installation CD back in?
[04:18] <firecrotch>  /bin/sh is dash
[04:18] <hisham> danbhfive: so which is good for shell scripting? BASH? CSH? KORN?
[04:18] <Drained> yeah you need to find the driver files
[04:18] <Drained> not the setup.exe
[04:19] <spO> i guess mplayer doesn't allow  configuring shortcut keys, but Kmplayer does
[04:19] <spO> thus, kmplayer is best mplayer
[04:19] <Shoe> What do I put in the terminal again to exit CD?
[04:19] <spO> any of you use coreavc with mplayer?
[04:19] <Drained> sudo eject
[04:19] <Shoe> thank you
[04:19] <danbhfive> hisham: I think bash is fairly popular.  Most tutorials use bash.  beyond that, I dunno.  All the shells are supposed to be posix compliant (a standard), so for scripting, it may not matter that much.
[04:19] <Drained> np
[04:20] <nefa> hi! how can i adjust the calendar to start the week with monday instead of sunday? /apps/evolution/calendar/display/week_start_day seems to be ignored
[04:20] <Shoe> I have setup.ini and autorun.exe drained
[04:21] <hisham> danbhfive: thanks :)
[04:21] <danbhfive> np
[04:21] <Shoe> and on the CD a folder is bin>>config>>utility and there is a file called setup.exe
[04:22] <rww> nefa: Edit > Preferences > Calendar and Tasks > Week starts on: Monday.
[04:22] <rww> nefa: assuming you're talking about Evolution's calendar?
[04:22] <Shoe> drained
[04:23] <Qu4R0w> i plug in my usb broadband but nothing happen..i cant connect to internet..
[04:24] <Shoe> drained
[04:24] <perturbed> which is the default window manager in ubuntu 9.04 ?
[04:24] <nefa> rww: you're assuming right. which "Edit" do you mean?
[04:24] <aaroninfidel> how can I check where my HD is? like HDA etc...
[04:24] <nefa> rww: i have to start evolution, right? ;-)
[04:24] <linux> Kentucky Hit Hard By Heavy Rains, Flooding
[04:25] <danbhfive> aaroninfidel: blkid
[04:25] <rww> nefa: well, yeah, if you're looking to change evolution's preferences ;)
[04:25] <Shoe> drained
[04:25] <Shoe> drained
[04:25] <Shoe> drained
[04:25] <FloodBot1> Shoe: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:25] <nefa> rww: i though it would be possible with gnome-edit. i don't use evolution...
[04:25] <spO> when watching a movie, and i do not do anything for a while, my screensaver comes on
[04:26] <Shoe> danbhfive, can you help me? drained is away
[04:26] <rww> nefa: umm. you said you were talking about evolution's calendar. if you're not using evolution, i'm not sure why you'd care about the calendar in it...
[04:26] <dotblank> Will installing cryptsetup install the module into my initrd?
[04:26] <danbhfive> Shoe: ok, I use terminal commands though
[04:26] <danbhfive> Shoe: sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils-1.9
[04:26] <Qu4R0w> my broadband not working!!!
[04:27] <Qu4R0w> n try run kismet*
[04:27] <Qu4R0w> my broadband not working!!!
[04:27] <spO> what is an mplayer index file?
[04:27] <spO> what is the index for?
[04:27] <nefa> rww: i'm talking about the calendar in the upper right corner of gnome. isn't it evolution's calendar?
[04:27] <danbhfive> Qu4R0w: is it a wifi card?
[04:27] <dotblank> And if I am running the live usb and have a persistent filesystem as casper-rw formated as ext4 and dm_crypt will it work?
[04:27] <Qu4R0w> i tried nwdisrapper and i cant run kismet..
[04:27] <rww> aaroninfidel: "sudo fdisk -l" and "cat /boot/grub/device.map".
[04:28] <icarus> how do you play .GIF files?
[04:28] <danbhfive> Shoe: let me know what the commands report back
[04:28] <Qu4R0w> i think it use windows driver and kismet cant deal with that
[04:28] <Shoe> It asked me to put the Ubentu CD in the Cd rom drive, then press enter
[04:28] <Shoe> I just did that
[04:28] <perturbed> does adding more programs slow sown the system ?
[04:28] <Shoe> Now it's done doing what itwas doing
[04:28] <danbhfive> mk
[04:28] <perturbed> damn
[04:29] <WeblionX> How can one get Ubuntu to use an IPv6 connection provided by a router?
[04:29] <Shoe> Now what?
[04:29] <MK-ubuntu> ?
[04:29] <rww> nefa: no. the gnome applet calendar appears to be configured by locale, rather stupidly. i'm trying to figure out how to change it now.
[04:29] <danbhfive> Shoe: now put your driver cd in the drive, and run ndiswrapper -i /media/cdrom/location/of/the/driver.inf
[04:30] <Shoe> wait, is that what I type into the terminal?
[04:30] <danbhfive> Shoe: I suggest using the windows XP driver if that is there
[04:30] <firecrotch> WeblionX: Well, if you have no need to use IPv4 for anything, you could just disable that, and then IPv6 will be used for everything
[04:30] <rww> nefa: http://onlyubuntu.blogspot.com/2008/05/howto-set-gnome-calendar-first-day-of.html Just tried it and it works for me :)
[04:30] <Qu4R0w> Shoe: what wireless card u using?
[04:30] <WeblionX> firecrotch: It's not even getting an IPv6 address.
[04:30] <danbhfive> Shoe: if you can tell me the location of the driver, I may be able to craft the exact command
[04:30] <Shoe> I have no idea what that means. I'm just putting in the installation CD for the wireless USB adapter
[04:30] <WeblionX> I don't need to force it to IPv6, I just need it to get a proper connection.
[04:31] <Shoe> Location of the driver?
[04:31] <Shoe> Ugh, I'm being exposed to to much computer knowledge at once
[04:31] <danbhfive> hmm
[04:31] <nefa> rww: thx, will try that one
[04:31] <Shoe> My RAM doesn't support this much knowledge
[04:31] <Shoe> I'll have to reboot before taking more
[04:31] <danbhfive> Shoe: can you find a .inf file?
[04:31] <Shoe> On the CD?
[04:31] <danbhfive> ya
[04:32] <Shoe> autorun.inf
[04:32] <Qu4R0w> Shoe: me also new and i got many2 info in one time..sometime info overload and make me not in normal person for a couple hour
[04:32] <danbhfive> Shoe: any others?  It may be in a folder called Drivers
[04:32] <streblo> how does one change a user's privileges
[04:33] <Shoe> arusb_xp.inf
[04:33] <Loafers> !themes
[04:33] <Shoe> Not in a folder called drivers though
[04:33] <Shoe> In a folder called binm
[04:33] <Shoe> bin*
[04:33] <danbhfive> Shoe: that looks promising
[04:33] <anujsingh> http://pastebin.com/d6b8b5759
[04:33] <streblo> !privileges
[04:33] <Shoe> open it?
[04:33] <streblo> hmm
[04:33] <danbhfive> Shoe: can you right click it, click properties, and tell me the location?
[04:34] <Shoe>  /media/cdrom0/bin/config/ndis5
[04:34] <danbhfive> streblo: I think you grant a user privileges by adding/subtracting groups
[04:35] <Qu4R0w> how to mount ext3 partition and make it remmber every startup?
[04:35] <SnakDoc> can you Encrypted Partition after install ?
[04:35] <danbhfive> Shoe: sudo ndiswrapper -i /media/cdrom0/bin/config/ndis5/arusb_xp.inf
[04:35] <danbhfive> !fstab | Qu4R0w
[04:35] <SnakDoc> Qu4R0w i can tell you its in the /etc/fstab file can't rem setting would have to look
[04:36] <streblo> danbhfive, when i go into Users and Groups in administration, everything is grayed out
[04:36] <ProfessorX> How do I download aptitude? I get this error "sudo: aptitude: command not found"
[04:36] <danbhfive> streblo: there should be an unlock button
[04:36] <Dulak> ProfessorX: sudo apt-get install aptitude
[04:36] <Shoe> Installing arusb_xp.inf
[04:36] <Qu4R0w> im reading*
[04:36] <Shoe> and now its doing nothing
[04:36] <Dulak> ProfessorX: though I thought aptitude was installed by default
[04:36] <danbhfive> Shoe: ndiswrapper -l
[04:37] <Shoe> now what?
[04:37] <abddu> ProfX ... maybe its not in the path ...
[04:37] <bubsy> GNU/Linux is soo rock-stable!
[04:37] <bubsy> ?DCC SEND "ff???f?Ã°Â¹Ã°Â°Ã°Â·Ã°Â³Ã°Â¶Ã°Â³Ã°ÂºÃ°Â¼Ã°Â·Ã°Â®Ã°Â¼Ã°Ã°Âº" 0 0
[04:37] <abddu> profX .. its in /usr/bin/aptitude
[04:38] <abddu> try running it from there ..
[04:38] <danbhfive> Shoe: that command should list your card
[04:38] <Shoe> and?
[04:38] <danbhfive> Shoe: does it say that it is working?
[04:38] <Quiznos> re
[04:39] <Shoe> I don't think so
[04:39] <Shoe> The wireless adapter is in this computer now
[04:39] <danbhfive> Shoe: ah, I see, so its not installed?
[04:39] <ogex> ndiswrapper
[04:40] <Shoe> I guess not. I did everything you said, and this list popped p with stuff like -i infilles and -a devid driver and such
[04:40] <danbhfive> Shoe: no, I meant that the card isnt plugged into the machine you want it to work on, right?
[04:40] <spO> when watching a movie with mplayer, is there a  way to make my mouse disappear or to make it so my screensaver does not come on?
[04:41] <Shoe> Right
[04:41] <spO> i still want my screensaver to work, just not when i am watching a movie
[04:41] <abddu> sp0 .. isnt that be default ... if im not mistaken ... dont move it and it;l disappear
[04:41] <danbhfive> Shoe: well, I think that if you plug it in, and we got the driver right, it should just work, but we can continue installing: sudo ndiswrapper -m
[04:42] <nefa> rww: is it normal that it creates all sorts of us_*.UTF-8 locales now? just wondering...
[04:42] <abddu> well .. a computer IS idle when you're watching ... :)
[04:42] <rww> nefa: yes
[04:42] <Shoe> Well, tell me everything I need to do now,  because once I unplug the adapter, I can't continue this conversation
[04:43] <danbhfive> Shoe: gksu gedit /etc/modules  ,   add a line to the end: ndiswrapper
[04:43] <Shoe> What? Put that in the terminal once I plug in the USB?
[04:43] <danbhfive> Shoe: OH!, and sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[04:43] <richad> ds
[04:43] <danbhfive> Shoe: no, now
[04:43] <richad> nns
[04:43] <Shoe> So, what exactly do I put in right now?
[04:44] <danbhfive> Shoe: those commands
[04:44] <Shoe> press enter after each one?
[04:44] <danbhfive> Shoe: after the first and 3rd, the second, you just save and exit the text editor
[04:44] <richad> #ubuntu
[04:44] <nefa> rww: worked, thanks! i just somehow thought it would be configurable through gconf-edit, which pointed to evolutions calendar.
[04:44] <Shoe> gksu gedit /etc/modules
[04:45] <Shoe> then enter
[04:45] <danbhfive> oh, yeah
[04:45] <Shoe> then sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[04:45] <Qu4R0w> it is possible to divide my file system into 2 partition??i want install archlinux
[04:45] <Shoe> then enter
[04:45] <rww> nefa: yeah, I understand. Doing it through locales seems silly to me too. Glad it worked, though :)
[04:45] <Shoe> then ndiswrapper?
[04:45] <danbhfive> sorta
[04:45] <richardcavell> everyone, when I play Half-Life games, sometimes the window captures my mouse but not my keyboard.  Alt-tab doesn't work to put the keyboard focus in the window.  Does anyone know a trick to get keyboard focussed into the window?
[04:45] <danbhfive> Shoe: first: sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[04:46] <Shoe> done
[04:46] <Shoe> I pressed enter
[04:46] <mezquitale> anyone knows how to configure a splash image on a small laptop screen?
[04:46] <zebrafusion> hi friends. what must I install to play dvds? I got libdvdcss2, libdvdread4, ubuntu-restricted-extras and vlc - when I try to play the DVD it just keeps reading it but nothing...
[04:46] <danbhfive> ok, now you card should work if you plug it in
[04:46] <danbhfive> Shoe: now run: sudo ndiswrapper -m
[04:46] <Shoe> after I put in the card?
[04:47] <danbhfive> Shoe: either or, the card doesn't need to be in
[04:47] <Shoe> Okay, I pressed enter
[04:47] <josht> does anyone know how to get STAC92xx Analog to record or input sound in ubuntu?
[04:47] <Shoe> Now just plug it in and it should work?
[04:47] <Loafers> How do I switch to Metacity (That's the default wm right?) I typed metacity --replace  in the console and it switched but when i closed the console it switched back or something and froze
[04:47] <danbhfive> Shoe: ok, now: gksu gedit /etc/modules
[04:48] <Shoe> It popped up a new window
[04:48] <danbhfive> ya, enter your password, as it requests it
[04:49] <Shoe> It doesn't
[04:49] <beep> Loafers: type metacity --replace & exit (it will close the terminal)
[04:49] <Shoe> It opened a new window, but nothing else
[04:49] <Shoe> the window is called modules (/etc) - gedit
[04:49] <ProfessorX> How do I create a new user using the terminal?
[04:49] <Loafers> beep, thanks!
[04:50] <beep> Loafers, not mention :-)
[04:50] <Flannel> ProfessorX: sudo adduser username
[04:50] <danbhfive> ok, thats fine.  You should be editing a file.  Create a new line, and add 'ndiswrapper'  no quotes
[04:50] <DaZ-_> ProfessorX, adduser or useradd
[04:50] <Shoe> Now?
[04:50] <Shoe> I mean, now what?
[04:50] <danbhfive> Shoe: save and exit
[04:50] <Shoe> okay
[04:50] <Shoe> I'm back at the terminal
[04:50] <Dulak> ProfessorX: sudo adduser username
[04:51] <danbhfive> ok, Im pretty sure that's it.  You should now test to see if it works
[04:51] <ProfessorX> How do I add the password?
[04:51] <abddu> passwd username
[04:51] <Flannel> ProfessorX: It'll ask you for the password
[04:51] <Dulak> ProfessorX: if you used adduser it should prompt you for it, if you used useradd you'll need to do "sudo passwd username" to set a password
[04:51] <Shoe> Thanks! I'll be back shortly id it doesn't work
[04:52] <danbhfive> ok, gl
[04:53] <ProfessorX> After I created the user how do I change the user to the one I created?
[04:53] <CrAzYoNi> Hi all,
[04:53] <ProfessorX> Its currently in root
[04:53] <CrAzYoNi> I'm working with Ubuntu & i've install mysql server via apt-get
[04:54] <abddu> su username
[04:54] <CrAzYoNi> Because of some reason it dont keeps logs
[04:54] <CrAzYoNi> I see under /var/log/mysql.err & .log files + mysql directory there, but they are all empty
[04:54] <mezquitale> anyone knows how to configure a splash image??? I am unable to see a splash image in xubuntu on a small lcd laptop
[04:54] <kiran_> hi
[04:54] <CrAzYoNi> Is it a known issue that after installion I should configure something with mysql for it to save logs?
[04:54] <abddu> crazy check /var/log/messages ... if ur in a hurry
[04:55] <nefa> rww: it seems to make sense though. cal uses this configuration too by default (compare: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bsdmainutils/+bug/97450)
[04:55] <CrAzYoNi> abddu, thanks, though it don't contain anything about mysql @least not for the last few days
[04:55] <rww> nefa: indeed, but cal has an option ( -m ) to change it. The GNOME calendar doesn't...
[04:55] <ProfessorX> how do I add a user to the sudoers file? I'm trying to install something in my user account but its not letting me do it.
[04:56] <Flannel> ProfessorX: add their user to the admin group: adduser username admin
[04:56] <abddu> crazy ... did you check the /etc/mysql/my.cnf file?
[04:57] <abddu> to see where those are going?
[04:57] <CrAzYoNi> abddu, I did, now :)
[04:57] <abddu> i mean the errors ...
[04:57] <abddu> oh ok ... so solved?
[04:57] <josht> does anybody know how to make my mic work in ubuntu 9.04?
[04:58] <jiohdi> plug it in/
[04:58] <jiohdi> ?
[04:58] <abddu> ouch josht ... whats ur sound card type? is sound working?
[04:58] <jiohdi> :)
[04:58] <CrAzYoNi> I hope so.. :)
[04:58] <jiohdi> sorry
[04:58] <nefa> rww: yep
[04:58] <spO> do any of you know any good programs that rips dvd movie disc to disc, something like any dvd does for windows?
[04:59] <josht> its a STAC92xx Analog
[04:59] <abddu> hopefull ... crazy ...
[04:59] <josht> yea sound is working except input and mic arent
[04:59] <kfan> whats a good program to make backups  of my DVDs?
[04:59] <DaZ-_> spO, you can't do this, it's illegal.
[04:59] <DaZ-_> <:
[04:59] <abddu> do u see em in the mixer ? josht...
[04:59] <pahom> spO: dd
[04:59] <josht> i already checked if they were muted and they are there but dont work
[05:00] <ProfessorX> connecting to x11vnc through windows realvnc viewer does not work. I have x11vnc installed and I did x11vnc -create and x11vnc started up in the terminal.
[05:00] <kfan> whats a good program to make backups  of my DVDs?
[05:00] <ProfessorX> What can be the problem?
[05:00] <jiohdi> how do you make the cube desktop work?
[05:00] <Loafers> !screensaver
[05:00] <josht> idk it shows but i get no sound?!?
[05:00] <abddu> what are u using to record ... josht ...
[05:00] <firecrotch> ProfessorX: Any output from x11vnc when you try to connect?
[05:01] <abddu> i mean what software ...
[05:01] <josht> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1231746 is the thread i made a little while ago but no one responded yet
[05:01] <nefa> rww: gnome tends to hide much from the user anyway. i just wouldn't have thought they go that far ;-)
[05:01] <josht> im using sound recorder and seeing if it works in skype but it doesnt
[05:02] <jiohdi> I have seen videos of 9.04 having this cube that shows all the desktops
[05:02] <jiohdi> but I have no idea how to do that
[05:02] <jiohdi> anyone?
[05:02] <Loafers> !repeat
[05:02] <danbhfive> !ccsm | jiohdi
[05:02] <ProfessorX> I get this error
[05:02] <ProfessorX> 05/08/2009 08:02:22 wait_for_client: read failed: /bin/sh /tmp/x11vnc-find_display.P1IKRn Xvfb
[05:02] <jiohdi> thank you
[05:02] <Karcamo[x]> hi!
[05:03] <Karcamo[x]> anybody know a multiseat system under ubuntu ?
[05:03] <ProfessorX> And I did adduser user admin and it still says my user is not in the sudoers file.
[05:03] <Flannel> ProfessorX: You need to log in again for the new group to take effect
[05:03] <ProfessorX> I did.
[05:03] <abddu> k josht ... il be following up at ur post ... if i find anything for u ...
[05:03] <Flannel> ProfessorX: type "groups" is admin listed?
[05:03] <abddu> not sure exactly at time being ..
[05:04] <ProfessorX> only root is listed
[05:04] <firecrotch> ProfessorX: can you pastebin the entire output from x11vnc?
[05:04] <spO> there is a way to immune a file whereas you cannot change it or anything liek that right , it something like +i or something with some other command, does any of this sound familiar to any of you?
[05:04] <danbhfive> spO: chattr
[05:04] <Flannel> ProfessorX: As your user...
[05:05] <spO> thanks
[05:05] <Guiri> Hi. Is there a way to use a salt + password to boot ubuntu? Like a thumbdrive unlocking full disk encryption?
[05:05] <kfan> whats a good program to make backups  of my DVDs?
[05:05] <josht> abddu: thank you very much
[05:05] <ProfessorX> it says user admin
[05:05] <firecrotch> ProfessorX: Do you have xvfb installed?
[05:06] <ProfessorX> I don't think so
[05:06] <firecrotch> ProfessorX: Installing that should solve your problem
[05:06] <ProfessorX> sudo apt-get xvfb?
[05:06] <firecrotch> yep
[05:07] <streblo> in /etc/group, i'd like to add my user to a group that will give it the maximum amount of privileges
[05:07] <streblo> which group should i add my username to?
[05:08] <Karcamo[x]> anybody know a multiseat system under ubuntu ?
[05:08] <firecrotch> streblo: Your user should already have maximum privileges, via sudo
[05:08] <ProfessorX> I'm getting E: Invalid operation xvfb
[05:08] <danbhfive> ProfessorX: "install" it
[05:08] <firecrotch> ProfessorX: Sorry, I misread what you typed: sudo apt-get install xvfb
[05:08] <computer> if i can "sh" to install what command should i use to sudo install a .run file
[05:09] <beep> josht, did you try alsamixer, and then selecting your micro as input source?
[05:09] <streblo> firecrotch, the problem is that i'm trying to run a python script, and the superuser doesnt have the right paths in PYTHONPATH
[05:09] <ProfessorX> how do I start gnome?
[05:09] <computer> sudo sh whatever.run
[05:09] <computer> whats the proper command
[05:09] <streblo> if i run sudo python myscript.py, i get an import error
[05:09] <Qu4R0w> ProfessorX: nice2
[05:09] <boonyo> I've got two network interfaces, one wired for the lan and one wireless for hotspots. what's a good gui tool to configure these independently so that the wired one uses fixed settings and the wireless one can get the settings via a dhcp server?
[05:10] <firecrotch> computer: .run files are executables, so ./whatever.run (assuming that it has +x permission set)
[05:10] <josht> yea i already tried that i think... i tried so many different solutions but none worked on 8.10 or 9.04
[05:11] <streblo> i need to figure out either how to give my default user privileges that will allow it to run this script, or i need to add all of my development paths to the superuser's python path
[05:11] <ProfessorX> How do I start gnome after I connect to it with VNC?
[05:11] <streblo> if anyone could suggest how to do either of these, it would be great
[05:11] <streblo> i might even buy someone a beer
[05:11] <kfan>  whats a good program to make backups  of my DVDs?
[05:12] <streblo> !cron
[05:12] <Flannel> !dvd | kfan
[05:12] <firecrotch> streblo: You should be able to set the script to setuid root and run it in your user environment, but with root privileges
[05:12] <Flannel> kfan: There's a link on the first page there
[05:12] <Qu4R0w> can i edit my file system..i want to divide it into two partition..i wont erase that partition and wont make my ubuntu corrupted
[05:13] <hotdog003> Hello! I changed a user's home directory in LDAP, but I'm getting an "Error: cannot chdir to (old home directory): file does not exist." How do I force the server to reload the ldap information?
[05:14] <firecrotch> streblo: chmod 4755 script.py   and  chown root:root script.py  should do the trick
[05:15] <wcryer> Hey having trouble with a realtek rtl 8139. it shows a connection for eth0 but i have no ip address, anyone know whats going on, btw the driver being used is 8139too
[05:16] <Faethin> Greetings
[05:16] <streblo> firecrotch, i'm still getting the same error
[05:16] <streblo> 'IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/var/www/today.html'
[05:16] <nefa> Qu4R0w: use gparted. the partition should be not mounted while editing. use a live-cd
[05:16] <Faethin> Amarok trouble: "audio output unavailable. The device is busy. Xine parameters."
[05:17] <sendiri_di_keram> Hii All
[05:17] <Faethin> I'm really upset :/ Amarok seems to have ceased working for no apparent reason
[05:17] <ProfessorX> I can't start gnome with "startx". I get this error "xinit:  No such file or directory (errno 2):  unable to connect to X server
[05:17] <ProfessorX> xinit:  No such process (errno 3):  Server error."
[05:18] <nefa> Qu4R0w: first you make your ubuntu-partition smaller, than you create a new partition. that's it
[05:18] <Qu4R0w> nefa: it will not make corruption on my existing ubuntu?
[05:18] <Faethin> No?
[05:18] <nefa> Qu4R0w: worked for me, but there is always a risk
[05:19] <Qu4R0w> nefa: what risk??boot loader/file?
[05:19] <firecrotch> streblo: hmmm you'll probably have to add the paths then to roots python path then
[05:19] <ProfessorX> I can't start gnome with "startx". I get this error "xinit:  No such file or directory (errno 2):  unable to connect to X server
[05:20] <streblo> firecrotch, does root have a bashrc file?
[05:20] <streblo> or something
[05:20] <Shtl> i installed 9.04 Gnome on Intel Celron 1GHz P-3 system, with 256 MB RAM, but after booting no application launched have GUI frame(ie no close, minimize, maximize buttuns), is it bcz of old hardware???
[05:20] <nefa> Qu4R0w: just backup the important files in case the resize doesn't work as it should. but as i said, it should work. just don't shut the power down while resizing ;-)
[05:20] <Guest94719> Hello
[05:20] <josht> beep: i tried that solution but it still didnt work
[05:20] <firecrotch> streblo: yes
[05:20] <gio> Oi! Alguemf ala portugues?
[05:21] <streblo> firecrotch, where?
[05:21] <newbe_one> Hii all
[05:21] <gio> quem fala portugues?
[05:21] <Qu4R0w> nefa: shut power down??
[05:21] <firecrotch> streblo: /root/.bashrc
[05:21] <newbe_one> i install OOO 3 on my hardy
[05:21] <gio> aff.s
[05:21] <newbe_one> and ooo3 disappear on my main menu
[05:21] <Shtl> which version of ubuntu best runs on this such hardware can any one tell me please??
[05:21] <newbe_one> how to add it on my menu
[05:21] <Guest94719> know someone is likely to be able to receive all acc class IP on a root
[05:21] <Qu4R0w> Shtl: what hardware?
[05:22] <Shtl> Qu4R0w: Intel Celron p-3 with 1 GHz
[05:22] <Shtl> Qu4R0w:  i installed 9.04 Gnome on Intel Celron 1GHz P-3 system, with 256 MB RAM, but after booting no application launched have GUI frame(ie no close, minimize, maximize buttuns), is it bcz of old hardware???
[05:22] <Qu4R0w> Shtl: 9.04(JJ) is fine i think
[05:23] <beep> josht: sorry man, I thought it could work. did you try deactivating pulseaudio and using only alsa?
[05:23] <Qu4R0w> Shtl: u on gnome?
[05:23] <Lostinspac_46> I can't figure out how to change fonts in Zimbra
[05:23] <Shtl> yes
[05:24] <Mike_lifeguard> Is there any way to customize what a program (emesene) sends to notifyosd?
[05:24] <Qu4R0w> Shtl: u use compiz?
[05:24] <Shtl> no
[05:24] <Condoulo> Who here separates their /from their /home, and if you do, how much space would you recommend to give the / partition?
[05:25] <streblo> firecrotch, i'm getting this error:
[05:25] <streblo> "/root/.bashrc" E212: Can't open file for writing
[05:25] <Qu4R0w> Shtl: metacity?
[05:25] <Mike_lifeguard> Condoulo: I do... I gave / 30GB
[05:25] <firecrotch> streblo: you have to be root to edit it :)
[05:25] <Shtl> Qu4R0w: no that too
[05:25] <Condoulo> Mike_lifeguard, not too far from what I was thinking of - I was thinking of 20GB
[05:25] <firecrotch> streblo: or change the permissions on it
[05:25] <Condoulo> but 30GB should be fine
[05:26] <firecrotch> I don't know if bash throws a fit at a bashrc with the wrong permissions though
[05:26] <Mike_lifeguard> Condoulo: yeah, 30 is overkill, I doubt you'll fill 20 any time soon
[05:26] <streblo> su: Authentication failure
[05:26] <mechtech> can anyone tell me why when I add a song to a playlist using vlc, the song's duration reads as 0:00 and the file won't play
[05:26] <Qu4R0w> Shtl: try=compiz --replace
[05:26] <mechtech> ?
[05:26] <streblo> also, i said chmod 777 /root/.bashrc and i still got the error
[05:26] <Mike_lifeguard> Condoulo: I'm using ~7GB right now
[05:26] <Shtl> Qu4R0w: compiz not installed
[05:27] <Condoulo> Mike_lifeguard, ah, ok. I know most of my space that will be used will be in my /home, so I don't want to give / too much,.
[05:27] <Qu4R0w> Shtl: metacity --replace
[05:27] <streblo> so apparently bash doesnt like me changing the permissions
[05:27] <firecrotch> streblo: I think you might have a little bit of a bigger problem here?
[05:27] <wcryer> anyone know how to fix an ethernet card that has the correct driver but no ip address
[05:27] <streblo> firecrotch, thats starting to dawn on me
[05:27] <Qu4R0w> Shtl: metacity is def ubuntu DE
[05:27] <Shtl> ok
[05:27] <mechtech> wcryer: ifconfig
[05:28] <streblo> firecrotch, i'm not doing anything out of the ordinary. i'm trying to open a file for writing in a python script. really, really basic IO. i dont understand why this is such a difficult thing to do.
[05:28] <Qu4R0w> Shtl: settle?
[05:28] <wcryer> mechtech what can i tell from that, im really new to linux
[05:28] <Shtl> the system is in my house, i will check it
[05:28] <Qu4R0w> Shtl: ok2..
[05:29] <Shtl> and mouse response is not good at all
[05:29] <beep> streblo: if .bashrc is problematic, why not to append those libraries to sys.path ?
[05:29] <wcryer> mechtech: under eth0:avahi it shows a self assigned ip
[05:29] <Shtl> Qu4R0w: even for single click it perfoms 2 actions
[05:29] <Shtl> mouse
[05:29] <streblo> beep, it's considered bad form
[05:29] <Qu4R0w> Shtl: what action?
[05:30] <mechtech> wcryer: open a command terminal and you can read the man pages (manual pages) by typing "man whatever" then enter
[05:30] <streblo> firecrotch, this is my script, pretty basic stuff. http://pastebin.com/d40929a10
[05:30] <Shtl> any thing
[05:30] <mechtech> wcryer: you want to learn about "interfaces", "ifconfig" and "iwconfig" for wireless
[05:30] <Qu4R0w> Shtl: what u mean anything???
[05:31] <mechtech> wcryer: btw...what ip address do you have?
[05:31] <streblo> beep, but at this point i'm about to put a fist through my monitor, so i'm going to probably do that
[05:31] <firecrotch> streblo: ok, so lets go back to basics.... the user that your script runs as must have write access to the file.  Does it work on a file owned by your user?
[05:32] <Shtl> for ex : on desktop when i rt click and select any options, it perfoms that and their remains a white patch behind
[05:32] <wcryer> mechtech: the one it shows for the eth0:avahi is 169.....that business and in the graphic interface it just shows zeros for everything
[05:32] <mechtech> wcryer: you mean the gui "Network Manager"?
[05:33] <wcryer> mechtech: i dont think its network manager it is just the basic lower right thing in mint
[05:33] <streblo> firecrotch, my user apparently does not have write access to the file, because i get an IOError from python telling me that i dont have sufficient priviledges
[05:33] <FalconM> how do i change ubuntu terminal color?
[05:34] <FalconM> the font
[05:34] <leaf-sheep> FalconM: Right-click on the terminal and change it.
[05:34] <mechtech> wcryer: not familiar with mint...does it look like wifi signal strength bars?
[05:34] <FalconM> leaf-sheep: im sshing to a unbuntu machine..
[05:35] <wcryer> mechtech: it looks like a LAN in windows, overlapping screens
[05:35] <streblo> firecrotch, this is my error http://pastebin.com/d763933ce
[05:35] <Qu4R0w> Shtl: at ur home dir,del .gnome and .gconf
[05:35] <mechtech> wcryer: click on it and tell me what you see
[05:35] <streblo> i assume that means i dont have sufficient privileges to either read, write, or create a file in /var/www
[05:35] <leaf-sheep> FalconM: I see.  I'd google for that one myself.  Let me see if I can find you something.
[05:36] <myself> two myself
[05:36] <firecrotch> streblo: what about when you try to write to a file that you know that your user can write to? or changing the file permissions to all you to write to it?
[05:36] <Shtl> i should delete files .gnome and .gconf???
[05:36] <Qu4R0w> Shtl: that will make ur gnome is fresh/default
[05:37] <streblo> firecrotch, what i'd like to do is just say 'Let user x have permission to read/write/create files in /var/www'
[05:37] <Shtl> Qu4R0w: those will be in /home/user/???
[05:37] <wcryer> mechtech: i see how retarded i am, ive been fricken right clicking this entire time
[05:37] <Qu4R0w> Shtl: yah
[05:37] <Qu4R0w> Shtl: that will make ur gnome is fresh/default
[05:37] <wcryer> mechtech: even have my wireless card now, fml
[05:37] <mechtech> any body know why when I add a song to a playlist in VLC, the durations reads 0:00 and the file won't play?
[05:37] <wcryer> thanks
[05:37] <Shtl> ok after deleting i have to restart???
[05:38] <streblo> so that when i run the file with my user, python wont yell at me saying 'Hey, your system wont let me create this file, wtf?'
[05:38] <mechtech> wcryer: no problem?
[05:38] <Qu4R0w> yah..reboot..try
[05:38] <mechtech> wcryer...meant .
[05:38] <mezquitale> mechtech, you have all the drivers installed to play multimedia like mp3, wav, etc?
[05:38] <firecrotch> streblo: The best way to do that would be to add the user to the GROUP that owns the file, and give the group full permissions
[05:38] <streblo> firecrotch, thats what i was trying to do before. how do i determine which group owns the file?
[05:38] <julio_> can anyone tell me how to booy a live ubuntu in text mode???
[05:39] <streblo> i assume after that i have to add it to the group in /etc/group
[05:39] <wcryer> mechtech: yeah im good, thanks for your help, any pointers on setting up samba and whatever the print server thing is called
[05:39] <mechtech> mezguitale: yes...I can play the files if I open the file itself, and I've been making playlists for days already, just suddenly today I can't
[05:39] <streblo> and then i also assume, just by the flow of my luck tonight, that python is still going to barf all over me
[05:39] <firecrotch> streblo: ls -la   4th column is the group
[05:40] <streblo> and that this arcane problem will never solve itself, and that i will go home tonight and will seriously reconsider whether or not i want to write software full time for the rest of my life
[05:41] <Line> testi
[05:41] <firecrotch> streblo: to add the user to the group: sudo usermod -G <group> -a <user>
[05:41] <isilion> how to add a command like  /opt/lampp/lampp start
[05:41] <isilion>  to the startup boot sequence
[05:41] <isilion> ¿
[05:41] <streblo> firecrotch, is it going to be a problem that the group is root
[05:42] <leaf-sheep> FalconM: Can't find anything about it but I stumbled onto bunch of cool terminal colors.  Not related to your question, of course.
[05:42] <julio_> can anyone tell me how to booy a live ubuntu in text mode???
[05:42] <firecrotch> streblo: that's weird... that also says to me that the file is owned by root?
[05:42] <Shtl> Qu4R0w: Edubuntu bootable CD is not their???
[05:43] <mechtech> wcryer: don't know much about samba...haven't used it, but the CUPS setup is what you want for setting up your printer...you'll need the ip address if your printer is networked, and for multi function devices, you'll most definitely need the appropriate software
[05:43] <isilion> how to add a command like  /opt/lampp/lampp start to the boot sequence
[05:43] <leaf-sheep> !boot | isilion
[05:43] <Qu4R0w> Shtl: what is it?
[05:43] <streblo> firecrotch, why is it weird?
[05:44] <streblo> see
[05:44] <streblo> this really pisses me off
[05:44] <Shtl> Qu4R0w: distrubution with most applications for Education
[05:44] <Guest6349> hi. im using 9.04 and i created a usb startup disk by using "USB Startup Disk Creator" and chose the "persistent" thing. how come it doesnt save settings?
[05:44] <streblo> i cant do really simple things like mv and touch
[05:44] <streblo> with my user
[05:44] <streblo> i have to sudo every time i want to move a file
[05:44] <firecrotch> streblo: it just strikes me as odd that you'd have the file owned by root
[05:44] <Qu4R0w> Shtl: yah..that is edubuntu
[05:44] <streblo> cant i just give my god damn user better privileges?
[05:44] <streblo> i feel like i'm working inside of a playpen
[05:44] <Shtl> yes i said same
[05:45] <firecrotch> streblo: The closest thing to what you're looking to do would be to enable the root account, which is HIGHLY discouraged
[05:45] <leaf-sheep> Guest6349: I don't remember the "Persistent" option in USB Startup Disk Creator.
[05:46] <leaf-sheep> !usb | Guest6349
[05:46] <streblo> ive never been unable to mv with my regular user account
[05:46] <duckwars> In .rtorrent.rc the line "directory = /stuff/bittorents" means that the finished files will go to /stuff/bittorents or that while the torrents are downloading they will be in /stuff/bitorents or both?
[05:46] <streblo> i have two servers here, one of them lets me do perfectly normal things like mv
[05:46] <streblo> the other only restricts me to the most basic commands
[05:46] <leaf-sheep> Guest6349: I think USB Startup Disk Creator are the other thing.  Install Ubuntu via USB flash drives.
[05:46] <streblo> i cant freaking mkdir without sudo-ing first
[05:47] <streblo> my s-u-d-o keys are going to wear out
[05:47] <firecrotch> streblo: if you're working with files/directories that you don't have permission to do those things with, that's going to happen
[05:47] <leaf-sheep> streblo: "ls -al ~/" is owned by your username + group?
[05:47] <crdlb> streblo: I'm pretty sure /var/www is supposed to be owned by the www-data group, or something like that, which you can add yourself to
[05:47] <Guest6349> leaf-sheep: i'll look some more on ubuntu forums.  thank you.
[05:47] <boonyo> is it a good idea to have a "volatile" sources in the sources.list file if i'm running a firewall?
[05:47] <streblo> leaf-sheep, correct, its owned by my user
[05:48] <firecrotch> streblo: you *could* do "sudo su -l" which will give you a terminal as the root user
[05:48] <isilion> how to add a command like  /opt/lampp/lampp start to the boot sequence? bum not allows me to add new commands
[05:48] <firecrotch> streblo: again though, not recommended
[05:48] <leaf-sheep> streblo: Group too?
[05:48] <streblo> firecrotch, what i'd like to do is what crdlb suggested, which is to add myself to the group that controls the files in /var/www so that i can create files there
[05:49] <crdlb> leaf-sheep: I don't think he's having any problems with ~, only /var/www
[05:49] <firecrotch> streblo: everything in /var/www SHOULD be owned by www-data and group www-data
[05:49] <leaf-sheep> crdlb: Ahh I see.  That's root. :3
[05:49] <harryantix> is there a mepis or antic xchat???
[05:50] <leaf-sheep> harryantix: What do you mean?
[05:50] <streblo> i'm adding my user to www-data in that case
[05:50] <firecrotch> streblo: sudo usermod -G www-data -a <user>  should add you to the proper group for working with files in /var/www (you'll need to log out and back in)
[05:50] <harry__> to get help with mepis or antix linux
[05:51] <firecrotch> harry__: #mepis
[05:51] <firecrotch> harry__: although from the looks of it, #mepis is pretty empty.  try #linux for general Linux support
[05:52] <streblo> ok
[05:52] <streblo> first off
[05:52] <streblo> i added the path to my root's pythonpath
[05:52] <leaf-sheep> harryantix: You should check out their offical site to find where IRC supports resides at (if any).
[05:52] <streblo> i still get an import error
[05:52] <streblo> i also added my user to www-data
[05:52] <streblo> still get an IOError
[05:53] <streblo> i think i need to go home and drink
[05:53] <ekimmargni> Where is the log of updates recently done? And how do I tell folks that their proposed update introduced a regression?
[05:53] <julio_> can anyone tell me how to booy a live ubuntu in text mode???
[05:53] <streblo> and i did log out and log back in
[05:53] <firecrotch> streblo: sometimes that's the best solution ;)
[05:53] <julio_> can anyone tell me how to boot a live ubuntu in text mode???
[05:53] <harryantix> I would like to setup file sharing in samba
[05:53] <streblo> the problem is
[05:54] <ekimmargni> !repeat | julio_
[05:54] <streblo> i have to add this script to the crontab
[05:54] <streblo> so that at 9am tomorrow morning, it runs
[05:54] <streblo> i have 11 hours
[05:54] <julio_> my bad, it was misspelled
[05:54] <julio_> dont get mad :p
[05:54] <ekimmargni> I'm not mad (at you)... I *am* mad at whoever made my touchpad die >:D
[05:54] <adeodatus> How to extract rar file on ubuntu?
[05:55] <crdlb> streblo: what does ls -ld /var/www say the owner and group are?
[05:55] <ekimmargni> adeodatus: I think gzip handles that
[05:55] <li_bai> just curious, is there a way to configure gnome-terminal to always just show "foo@bar:$" for the prompt instead of "foo@bar:full path to working directory$"?
[05:55] <ekimmargni> could be wrong
[05:56] <streblo> crdlb, root root
[05:56] <ekimmargni> li_bai: Yes, there is. Google is your friend, there are excellent tutorials out there (though usually making the opposite change)
[05:56] <crdlb> streblo: it's www-data www-data on my hardy machine
[05:57] <firecrotch> li_bai: you'll have to edit your .bashrc file - it has plenty of comments that should help you find your way
[05:57] <streblo> crdlb, any reason why there's a difference?
[05:57] <li_bai> firecrotch: thanks
[05:57] <ekimmargni> Where is the log of recent apt-get install/upgrades kept?
[05:58] <leaf-sheep> ekimmargni: Probably in /var/log
[05:58] <Qu4R0w> ekimmargni: or u can try -v
[05:58] <ekimmargni> thx, and how do I tell a developer that their proposed update introduced a regression?
[05:58] <kindofabuzz> li_bai, http://www.linuxselfhelp.com/howtos/Bash-Prompt/Bash-Prompt-HOWTO-2.html
[05:58] <leaf-sheep> ekimmargni: There are Log Viewer app that you could use too .
[05:58] <firecrotch> li_bai: the variable PS1 is what determines your prompt, by the way, so that's what you'll want to change
[05:58] <curtis_> is there a way I can tell Xchat to stop connecting me to this channel on startup?
[05:59] <ekimmargni> leaf-sheep: that requires a mouse, which the update broke (*stab*)
[05:59] <curtis_> also whilst I am here is there a way I can find out what is wrong with Shiretoko
[05:59] <leaf-sheep> curtis_: Change the XChat settings.
[05:59] <firecrotch> curtis_: You don't like us? :'(
[05:59] <ekimmargni> curtis_: #xchat
[05:59] <leaf-sheep> curtis_: What's wrong with Shiretoko? o.O
[05:59] <curtis_> oh no I love you guys I just have minimal issues currently with ubuntu
[05:59] <leaf-sheep> ekimmargni: :(
[06:00] <curtis_> well for some reason it runs for about a minute and ten it closes randomly, giving no explanation of why, or any indication other than (obviously) the window is entirely gone
[06:00] <ekimmargni> curtis_: same for me (although 3.whatever does that too)
[06:01] <curtis_> 3.08 works for me just fine
[06:01] <curtis_> problem is I need Mozilla Weave to sync my profiles accross the five OS's I have installed on my computer
[06:01] <streblo> i'm still absolutely baffled by why this script is getting IOErrors
[06:01] <curtis_> and Weave for some reason is only compatible with 3.5 and up
[06:02] <leaf-sheep> curtis_: I use Xmarks for that.
[06:02] <Condoulo> ok, I've tried installing 9.04 64-bit twice, but I've run into two errors, which I believe are due to bad sectors. Shouldn't re-formatting usng ext4 set those bad sectors aside?
[06:02] <curtis_> Xmarks?
[06:02] <adeodatus> How to extract rar file from console on ubuntu?
[06:02] <curtis_> Condoulo: yes it should, unless it's in fact not bad sectors and something else instead
[06:02] <Condoulo> curtis_, hmmm... =/  I just burned the CD so I'm not sure its any scratches or anything on the disc
[06:02] <curtis_> I might just stick around in this room it appears there are questions I might actually be able to help with
[06:03] <leaf-sheep> curtis_: Yes.  It syncs mostly bookmarks + passwords.  Not sure about extensions though.  I just use sync .mozilla at first install.
[06:03] <crdlb> streblo: apparently root is the default, but you can change it with chown (-R). the reason seems to be that it prevents a hijacked cgi script from deleting your webpages (apache running as www-data won't be able to delete something owned by root)
[06:03] <curtis_> Condoulo: I'd suggest reburning the ISO (sometimes they can be annoying just for shits and giggles) and trying again, if you still have a problems it is either the drive, you not being 64-bit compatible for some piece of hardware, or something I've never heard of
[06:04] <leaf-sheep> Condoulo: Did you ran md5sum after you download an ISO?
[06:04] <leaf-sheep> !md5sum | Condoulo
[06:04] <Condoulo> leaf-sheep, no =/ normally I haven't had this issue
[06:04] <Condoulo> curtis_, well, all my hardware should be 64-bit compatible
[06:04] <leaf-sheep> Condoulo: How do you know if you don't have corrupted ISO? :)
[06:05] <curtis_> leaf-sheep: That's going to help a lot, since it's mostly the plethora of passwords that I hate typing in that's the issue here
[06:05] <curtis_> netsplit?
[06:06] <Shu> danbhfive
[06:06] <Shu> shit
[06:06] <Shu> Can someone help me?
[06:06] <leaf-sheep> curtis_: Just copy .mozilla to other *nix at first install, then you'll have everything.  Use XMarks to sync passwords + bookmarks.  You'll have minimal problems.  Also, I hate some XMark features that "ads" all over you.  Just toggle them off.
[06:06] <Condoulo> if it fails this time around I'm re-burning the disc =.
[06:06] <leaf-sheep> Shu: Only if you quit saying bad things.  What problem? ;o
[06:07] <curtis_> Yeah but leaf-sheep the problem is that I have Windows Vista, Windows 7. Mac OSX Leopard, Debian, Ubuntu, and Fedora
[06:07] <mezquitale> !ask| Shu
[06:07] <leaf-sheep> curtis_: XMarks is Firefox Addon.  It seems like you'll have to install extensions manually but that shouldn't be an issue.
[06:07] <mezquitale> curtis_, how did you get windows7???
[06:08] <firecrotch> mezquitale: public beta probably
[06:08] <Shu> I need to know how to install stuff! Ubuntu is so confusing! Like, when I click install to install the newest version of firefox (or any program for that matter) i'll select run and it will auto choose the program to run it with, then I get an error when I try to run it. Also, the plugins that I need to watch videos from youtube etc. won't download
[06:08] <leaf-sheep> firecrotch: I hope so. ^^
[06:08] <viki27> Hello , how i can findout which type of system i am using (64 bit or 32) from the terminal ?
[06:08] <Qu4R0w> Shu: ubuntu is great for that
[06:08] <firecrotch> leaf-sheep: I like to assume the best of the members of the Ubuntu community :)
[06:09] <Shu> For what, shoving sticks up orifices?
[06:09] <crdlb> viki27: dpkg --print-architecture is one way
[06:09] <mezquitale> Shu, one step at a time please, first which program would you like to install?
[06:09] <Shu> X-Chat
[06:09] <streblo> alright, last question for the night
[06:09] <Shu> (This is on a different computer form the one with Ubuntu
[06:09] <firecrotch> !language > Shu
[06:09] <leaf-sheep> viki27: uname -a
[06:09] <streblo> how can i tell if a process i told crontab to run is actually running?
[06:10] <Shu> Didn't know about the language
[06:10] <Shu> Sorry
[06:10] <firecrotch> streblo: it should show up in the syslog
[06:10] <Shu> Anyways, mezquitale, what do I do?
[06:10] <Condoulo> the error I get when installing: Errno 30 read-only file system
[06:11] <Condoulo> Is that due to a bad dissc ^
[06:11] <Shu> More importantly, what program do I run all of these things with?
[06:11] <curtis_> Shu: type this into a terminal "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install x-chat-gnome
[06:11] <ekimmargni> I had jaunty-proposed in sources.list - I've removed that, how can I force (up|down)grade to the jaunty-updates version of everything?
[06:11] <leaf-sheep> curtis_: x-chat-gnome is terrible, IMO. ;(
[06:11] <Shu> curtis
[06:11] <ekimmargni> xchat-gnome is a crime against humanity
[06:11] <streblo> firecrotch, this is a dumb question, but where the hell is the syslog?
[06:11] <Qu4R0w> leaf-sheep: try konversation
[06:11] <Shu> That computer can not have internet while this one does
[06:11] <Shu> Does that matter?
[06:12] <ekimmargni> whoever had that idea should be banned from contributing to ubuntu without someone looking over their shoulder
[06:12] <firecrotch> streblo: same place as all the other logs... /var/log/
[06:12] <leaf-sheep> Qu4R0w: Using KDE4?  Video + Sound resolved yet?
[06:12] <curtis_> also, if you go to System, Administrator, and then Synaptic Package Manager, and begin to type a program in the search bar, you will usually find it and be able to install it from there
[06:12] <streblo> firecrotch, oh
[06:12] <mezquitale> Shu, first go to "software sources" in "System-->Administration" and enable universe, restricted, and multiverse
[06:12] <curtis_> it will do everything for you
[06:12] <blueocean> logs always lies in /var/log , man :D
[06:12] <curtis_> Shu, are you serious?
[06:12] <make> Shu computer can not internet,try use Ubuntu DVD install
[06:12] <Qu4R0w> leaf-sheep: me on fluxbox..i dun like gnome
[06:12] <curtis_> You can't install a program without the packages already downloaded
[06:12] <mezquitale> Shu, xchat-gnome is almost as hideous as redmond
[06:13] <Shu> make, I have only one USB wireless adapter, so I can only be on my laptop or computer at a time, not both
[06:13] <gaurav> anyone..how can i make local ubuntu repo. on hard disc and acess it to install applications wen i have some .deb pacages..
[06:13] <streblo> this is just a general question, but how the hell do you guys know so much about linux
[06:13] <Shu> also
[06:13] <Shu> mezquitale,
[06:14] <firecrotch> streblo: from using it daily for the past 3 years :) from breaking everything possible and then fixing it
[06:14] <Shu> how do I enable universe, restricted, and multiverse?
[06:14] <leaf-sheep> streblo: You learn by using linux for everything.
[06:14] <streblo> i want to do that, but honestly, i cant even figure out how to run a script
[06:15] <Shu> curtis_, what?
[06:15] <streblo> its taken me 4 hours to get this script to run, and it still doesnt run
[06:15] <leaf-sheep> streblo: I even have linux for my Home Theater PC so I can watch movies on big screen too. If you're curious, google XBMC :)
[06:15] <blueocean> @streblo : you should first find a book and start reading :D
[06:15] <leaf-sheep> streblo: What script?
[06:15] <firecrotch> books are complete crap for learning Linux.  Learn by doing.
[06:15] <streblo> leaf-sheep, the one ive been asking questions about for the last 4 hours, the one thats trying to write an index.html file in /var/www
[06:15] <Shu> Ugh
[06:16] <Shu> Okay, someone else will have to help me, since the people I asked all stopped talking
[06:16] <blueocean> ...but doing without reading doesn't help us understand problem deeply :D
[06:16] <leaf-sheep> streblo: gksudo gedit /var/www/index.html --> Write HTML codes in it.
[06:16] <Shu> How do I download and install stuff? Ubuntu doesn't make any sense
[06:16] <mezquitale> Shu, first go to "software sources" in "System-->Administration" and enable universe, restricted, and multiverse == READ the text and click on the squares
[06:17] <mezquitale> Shu, click on "software sources", you can enable all of those in "software sources"
[06:17] <Shu> mezquitale, They are all already checked, and so is main
[06:17] <thahauss> can some1 please help me with a harddrive space issue im having in jaunty?  i have a raid 5 array with total usable space of 2.7TB, when i right click the array and go to properties it shows "contents, 50,439 items, totaling 633.2GB", then below it shows 949.1GB used, why the discrepancy?
[06:17] <leaf-sheep> Shu: You're new. It makes more sense to install everything from verified servers (for security and cleanness) as oppose to download what you can find out in the wild malicious Internet.
[06:17] <wizzer> If i want to upload logs to my computer as a server, could I just use lighttpd?
[06:17] <IceCreamPaintJob> o_o
[06:17] <mezquitale> Shu, now click on "Add/remove" and install xchat
[06:17] <IceCreamPaintJob> k
[06:18] <Shu> leaf-sheep, I'm not a down syndromed kid. I'm just new to Ubuntu
[06:18] <streblo> leaf-sheep, the script pulls stuff out of our database and then writes it
[06:18] <IceCreamPaintJob> can i install vista on my ubuntu?
[06:18] <firecrotch> wizzer: That makes no sense at all... lighttpd wouldn't be used to upload anything....
[06:18] <streblo> leaf-sheep, and i'd like this script to be run by cron every morning
[06:18] <leaf-sheep> IceCreamPaintJob: Say my nickname.  Please.
[06:18] <wizzer> No, i mean would lighttpd accept it
[06:18] <Mike_lifeguard> IceCreamPaintJob: Do you mean as a dual-boot? or virtualized (the answer is yes to both)
[06:18] <leaf-sheep> streblo: See #ubuntu-server too.
[06:19] <IceCreamPaintJob> nah im just fucking with you
[06:19] <IceCreamPaintJob> my first time here
[06:19] <firecrotch> !language
[06:19] <IceCreamPaintJob> oh
[06:19] <wizzer> My router has the ability to log to a remote system, I was wondering what I would need on this end for the router to send the logs.
[06:19] <streblo> leaf-sheep, no, this problem has no solution, ive determined. the correct solution is to stop writing code and to quit my job
[06:19] <IceCreamPaintJob> well firecrotch, look at your nick
[06:19] <IceCreamPaintJob> lmao
[06:19] <Shu> mezquitale, I just go to download Xchat, save to my desktop,and then what?
[06:19] <firecrotch> IceCreamPaintJob: true true
[06:19] <leaf-sheep> streblo: Meh. That's not a good solution.  Although you'd have more free time now.
[06:20] <IceCreamPaintJob> :p
[06:20] <mezquitale> wizzer, configure the machine that will be doing the logging with a static ip, then go to your router and configure the IP on the router
[06:20] <bucky> wizzer: have your router upload it's logs to /var/www
[06:20] <thomthom> Shu, it is in the rpositories
[06:20] <setz> hey
[06:20] <thomthom> repsotories*
[06:20] <streblo> leaf-sheep, ive been trying to get this to run for hours. ive tried everyone's suggestions. i'm out of ideas. at least before i had thoughts about how i could make it work.
[06:20] <leaf-sheep> streblo: I don't know about databases.  However, #ubuntu-server is slow traffic and people there are more generally knowledge with servers.  Just telling you.
[06:20] <firecrotch> wizzer: I assume that your router can log to a syslogd server then... you'll need a syslogd service running on your server
[06:20] <mezquitale> Shu, you have to be specific in what youre trying to accomplish.  Do you want to install software on a machine that is connected to the internet???
[06:20] <wizzer> Ok that's what i needed, couldn't think of syslogd
[06:21] <setz> I'm on a fresh install, created a logical volume group and mounted /home to it, and the auto-tab completion within a terminal seems to be broken, foolishly i did not backup the /home/user it gave me, anyone know how to fix that?
[06:21] <streblo> leaf-sheep, the issue isnt that i cant connect to our db. the issue is still that i dont have permission to write to a file in /var/www
[06:21] <leaf-sheep> streblo: Change the permissions to www-data for user + groups?
[06:21] <streblo> leaf-sheep, done that
[06:21] <Shu> IIIt's not connected currently, since I'm on my laptop, but if I get off the internet on my laptop I can get onto the internet on my computer
[06:21] <streblo> i also added my user to the root and www-data groups
[06:21] <Shu> I only have one wirless internet adapter see
[06:22] <Shu> and I have no idea what repositories are
[06:22] <thomthom> Shu, what is the file type
[06:22] <leaf-sheep> streblo: cronjobs are generally done in root admin, I believe.
[06:22] <soulse> is there a way to have different background and files in each gnome workspace?
[06:22] <firecrotch> Shu: If you have a crossover cable (or a switch or hub and 2 patch cables) you could pull off some networking trickery and allow both to access the net at the same time...
[06:22] <mezquitale> OK so disconnect your laptop and connect the laptop that needs the software, that is the easiest way.  If you want to do it your way I will give you a hint, you need to download the .deb package for xchat.
[06:22] <blueocean> Shu try to manually download essentials package from internet or use a DVD instead :s
[06:23] <leaf-sheep> streblo: If you're running this (not in root), then that's problem because you don't want any intervenes in first place.
[06:23] <Shu> Oh my god
[06:23] <Shu> I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT
[06:23] <thahauss> can some1 please help me with a harddrive space issue im having in jaunty?  i have a raid 5 array with total usable space of 2.7TB, when i right click the array and go to properties it shows "contents, 50,439 items, totalling 633.2GB", then below it shows 949.1GB used, why the discrepancy?
[06:23] <streblo> leaf-sheep, when i run this in root i get an import error
[06:23] <streblo> when i run it with my default user, i get an io error
[06:23] <streblo> the import error also baffles me
[06:23] <streblo> because the python paths are identical for both users
[06:23] <Shu> I just got Ubuntu today, and have practically no knowledge of it, only that someone reccommended that I use it because it speeds up my computer
[06:23] <mezquitale> Shu, how did you install xchat on your laptop?
[06:24] <robertrahardja> hi all
[06:24] <robertrahardja> just trying xchat
[06:24] <robertrahardja> :0
[06:24] <robertrahardja> :)
[06:24] <FloodBot1> robertrahardja: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:24] <th0r> Shu: you do not download and then install packages in ubuntu like you did in windows. You access a library called a repository and the software is automatically downloaded and installed from those.
[06:24] <leaf-sheep> streblo: I don't know python myself. :3
[06:24] <Shu> I have windows on my laptop. I just downloaded, and then installed when the installer was downloaded to my desktop
[06:24] <bucky> Shu it helps if you log  on to #ubuntu with ubuntu
[06:25] <leaf-sheep> streblo: You google the import error yet?  Jw.
[06:25] <Shu> Well, I cant really do that since I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DOWNLOAD IT!
[06:25] <bucky> Shu: if you can't figure out  your wireless adapter in ubuntu try googling for a solution then come back
[06:25] <streblo> leaf-sheep, the import error suggests that a library that i'm trying to import is not being found, which means its not in my python path. however, my .bashrc files for both users are identical
[06:25] <Shu> bucky, I hate you
[06:25] <rww> !google | bucky
[06:25] <thomthom> menu>ad, remove programs, do a search for xcaht
[06:25] <Shu> My internet already works on ubuntu. I had another guy walk me through it
[06:26] <streblo> leaf-sheep, both .bashrc files append my libraries to the python path, yet the superuser cant find them
[06:26] <mezquitale> Shu, turn on your other machine with ubuntu and go over the things I just described.  With ubuntu you dont have to download anything and run an "exe" file.  All you have to do is go to "add/remove" search for xchat and install the software, it is really that easy
[06:26] <Shu> Wait wait wait
[06:26] <leaf-sheep> streblo: You use full path, I'm assuming.  You can use "locate filename" to reveal paths.
[06:26] <streblo> leaf-sheep, i'm using the full path
[06:26] <Condoulo> I'm getting the same error with another disc - Errno 30 Read-only file system
[06:26] <streblo> i've used this method everywhere
[06:26] <thomthom> open a terminal and type "udo apt-get install xchat
[06:26] <leaf-sheep> streblo: What's the path?
[06:26] <Guest10457> anyone..how can i make local ubuntu repo. on hard disc and acess it to install applications wen i have some .deb pacages..
[06:26] <thomthom> sud0*
[06:26] <streblo> export PYTHONPATH=$PYTHONPATH:/home/myuser/dev
[06:27] <thomthom> sudo*
[06:27] <streblo> that line is in both my .bashrc files
[06:27] <Shu> mezquitale, if I go to, say, download Xchat from a link on the internet, I would click save to desktop, then after it finishes putting it onto my desktop, I go to add/remove, select XChat, and then....?
[06:27] <WIGGMPk> I recently noticed that my CPU usages is out of hand. I noticed that overall my usage is 50 - 70 %, looking in system monitor it shows CPU1 is only really at 15-20% while CPU2 is at 80-90+.. what is eating up my CPU.. it shows compiz.real but I have the same settings and it was never this intensive
[06:28] <bucky> streblo: so did you source .bashrc to enable the change?
[06:28] <leaf-sheep> streblo: Try placing the script in /home/myuser/bin
[06:28] <leaf-sheep> streblo: I know they do accept /home/myuser/bin/ already.
[06:28] <leaf-sheep> streblo: Configuring is always tricky.
[06:29] <Condoulo> do you think trying to separate / with /home will caues issues w/ permissions and installing Ubuntu 64-bit?
[06:29] <firecrotch> Condoulo: having / and /home on separate partitions shouldn't cause any sort of permissions issue
[06:29] <mezquitale> Shu, no.  You are not listening.  In order to install software you can do it 2 ways.  One, connect your machine to the internet then go to "add/remove" and install whatever you want.  The other choice is to download the "exe" file for ubuntu, which is a ".deb" file.  If you want to download the ".deb" file go to google and download the ".deb" file for xchat.  Once you have the ".deb" file for xchat all you have to do is copy it to yo
[06:29] <mezquitale> ur system and click on it and it will install, just like wincrap
[06:29] <Condoulo> firecrotch, weird them.
[06:29] <leaf-sheep> !home | Condoulo
[06:29] <Condoulo> *then
[06:29] <thomthom> condoulo, no I am running 64 bit with seperate boot / and /home
[06:29] <leaf-sheep> Condoulo: It's just bunch of personal files + configuration files.  Should be okay.
[06:30] <Condoulo> leaf-sheep, well, I keep getting issues errors such as "errno 30"
[06:30] <Shu> mezquitable, does the add/remove act like a internet search? Because if not, how could it install a program I havent already downloaded?
[06:31] <firecrotch> Shu: It downloads a list of all of the software that is available
[06:31] <nefa> Shu: add/remove downloads it for you, then it installs it for you
[06:31] <leaf-sheep> Condoulo: Error 30 in where?  Grub?
[06:31] <Condoulo> leaf-sheep, no, in the installer
[06:32] <Shu> Well, thats what I needed to know. So if I'm connected to the internet, just search for any program I desire in add/remove and it will search the internet for me (just to be clear)
[06:32] <mezquitale> Shu, you are not listening.
[06:32] <Medic> If I install the ubuntu xen desktop package will that give me xen vm desktop capabilities?
[06:32] <Shu> I'm sorry mezquitale, it's 1:30 and I've been messing with this for hours
[06:32] <firecrotch> Shu: Yes. That's basically how it works.
[06:32] <streblo> leaf-sheep, no luck
[06:32] <nefa> Shu: it doesn't search the internet, it connects to a ubuntu-server, where the software is stored
[06:32] <streblo> i had to create /home/myuser/bin
[06:33] <mezquitale> Shu, i know youre just as surprised as I am but it's actually quite possible, not matter how much bill told you that it's not
[06:33] <Condoulo> leaf-sheep, I'll restart the installer, This is from another disc I burned a while back that had worked before on another system
[06:33] <Shu> bill.....?
[06:33] <rww> Shu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories is a pretty good read on this subject.
[06:33] <streblo> now the folder is owned by root
[06:33] <thomthom> Shu, Add/Remove and Synaptic is a database of linux programs and such
[06:33] <Shu> okay
[06:33] <Shu> that clarifies so much
[06:33] <k2en_> hey, where is the wallpapers folder on ubuntu hardy?
[06:33] <Shu> Now, next problem
[06:33] <suigeneris> good morning. I am trying to follow http://www.ubuntugeek.com/disable-synaptics-touchpad-while-typing-in-ubuntu.html and it said to make some changes to xorg.conf, so I did. but when I restarted, I was told it needed a Driver line. what do I need to put in the Driver line?
[06:34] <lasj> k2en_: /usr/share/pixmaps/
[06:34] <mezquitale> Shu, connect your machine to the internet, go to "add/remove", search for the software that you want, and ubuntu will install it for you, no need to google for the file, download it, click on it, install it, nothing.  Just connect your machine to the internet, go to "add/remove", and install, that's it!! No gimmicks!!  No fraud!!!
[06:34] <firecrotch> Condoulo: Errno 30 during the install usually indicates that your hard drive is failing
[06:34] <Mike_lifeguard> suigeneris: syndaemon is probably better and easier
[06:34] <streblo> you know what, to hell with it. i'm just going to manually update index.html every morning when i get to work
[06:35] <streblo> leaf-sheep, thanks for your help
[06:35] <Condoulo> firecrotch, I honestly hope not. =/
[06:35] <leaf-sheep> streblo: Sorry I can't really figure out how I can't help you.  Also, I mentioned going to #ubuntu-server -- Not a lot of supports there and really slow traffic.  If people know the answer, they'll tell you.
[06:35] <leaf-sheep> streblo: No problem. :|
[06:35] <Shu> When I try to watch a video on youtube, It'll say I have missing plugins that need to be installed. I click "Install missing plugins" and it gives me a list of 3 plugins. I choose the adobe one, and it gives me an error, yet still says it installed it, but when I refresh the page it says I am still mikssing the add-ons and when I click it all three options are still there
[06:35] <streblo> leaf-sheep, maybe i'll check that out tomorrow
[06:35] <Condoulo> firecrotch, wouldn't formatting set bad sectors aside though and anything like that
[06:35] <thomthom> shu, add/remove search for flash
[06:35] <k2en_> lasj, are you sure? i can't find it there....
[06:35] <mezquitale> Shu, come back when you are on your ubuntu machine
[06:36] <firecrotch> Condoulo: The problem is likely more serious than a few bad sectors
[06:36] <suigeneris> Mike_lifeguard, it was also telling me to add syndaemon to startup programs. but it's useless I think without the change in xorg.conf
[06:36] <Condoulo> firecrotch, my HDD sounds healthy =/
[06:36] <Shu> Oh, right. Well, now that I know how I'll go install xchat on my ubuntu machine
[06:36] <Shu> be back in a few
[06:36] <Mike_lifeguard> suigeneris: I don't think that's true
[06:36]  * bucky waves
[06:36] <k2en_> lasj, there is something called "backgrouds " in there but its not the 3 wallpapers gnome offers in "appearance"
[06:37] <thahauss> my raid5 array's properties shows "contents 50,575 items, totaling 647.3GB" then the pie chart and data to the right of it says "963.1GB" used, why the discrepancy?'
[06:37] <Mike_lifeguard> suigeneris: I certainly don't have anything in xorg.conf yet it works
[06:37] <suigeneris> Mike_lifeguard, from the page: Type in the following: syndaemon -i 1 -d
[06:37] <firecrotch> Condoulo: Is your hard drive an IDE hard drive and your disc drive SATA?
[06:37] <Condoulo> firecrotch, no, both my optical drive and my Hard Drive are SATA
[06:38] <Condoulo> copying files at 76%
[06:38] <Mike_lifeguard> suigeneris: yes... and?
[06:38] <dirtbag666> hi there
[06:39] <suigeneris> Mike_lifeguard, so, that is true
[06:39] <Condoulo> now its at Creating user - hopefully it actually installs. last time I only ran into issues while Copying Files
[06:39] <dirtbag666> does anyone have any ideas on receiving icecasts with mplayer? mplayer http://192.168.178.22 and mplayer ...adress:8000 won't work :-(
[06:39] <lordhedg1hog> Help!  The Package Manager was updating a bunch of packages with the system crashed.  Now firefox and liferea segfault on loading...
[06:39] <Mike_lifeguard> suigeneris: That has nothing to do with xorg.conf
[06:39] <lordhedg1hog> I've tried reinstalling firefox without luck
[06:40] <dirtbag666> lordhedg1hog: tried sudo apt-get install --reinstall firefox?
[06:40] <dirtbag666> (or similar)
[06:40] <lordhedg1hog> Yes, didn't help at all.
[06:41] <firecrotch> Condoulo: the fact that is seems to be working now indicates to me that it's most likely a hardware issue.  Maybe the optical drive is bad.
[06:41] <dirtbag666> any error message?
[06:41] <suigeneris> Mike_lifeguard, on the first section of the page, there's the things to put in xorg.conf
[06:41] <lordhedg1hog> No, I just get a segmentation fault if I load either from cli
[06:41] <Mike_lifeguard> suigeneris: I'm sure that's exactly what the page says. I'm saying the page is almost certainly wrong.
[06:41] <dirtbag666> I meant error message after apt-get install
[06:42] <lordhedg1hog> dirtbag666: No, it reinstalls just fine.
[06:42] <firecrotch> lordhedg1hog: what part of the install process did Synaptic crash during?
[06:42] <devians> on the cli, how can i determine what items of hardware have driver issues so i can resolve them?
[06:42] <lordhedg1hog> firecrotch: It said the acroread update hash didn't match, then the entire system froze solid
[06:43] <lordhedg1hog> firecrotch: There were a lot of updates, tho', including firefox, that finished installing after reboot
[06:43] <k2en_> guys anyone knows where hardy places the 'wallapers' folder at?
[06:43] <lasj> k2en_:/usr/share/backgrounds
[06:44] <lordhedg1hog> I was wondering if the package manager kept a log of updates it did, so I could purge and reinstall those packages?
[06:44] <k2en_> lasj, thanks
[06:44] <jonex_> i need some orientation ...i want to change my THEME
[06:44] <robinro> Hi @all
[06:44] <robinro> could someone please tell me which script is handling monitor switching by function-key (fn-f7 with my thinkpad) under jaunty?
[06:45] <green> #ubuntu-ir
[06:45] <firecrotch> lordhedg1hog: there might be something in /var/log/apt/
[06:45] <thomthom> jonex_, right+click on you desktop>change desktop background>themes tab
[06:46] <jonex_> thomthom: but if i wanna install a new one?
[06:46] <allen_> ...
[06:46] <firecrotch> lordhedg1hog: or /var/log/dpkg.log
[06:46] <lordhedg1hog> term.log seems to log the complete output, I'm scanning it for errors now
[06:47] <devians> if i plug into a usb drive into a headless system, does it automount/how do i mount it
[06:47] <thomthom> drag and drop the tar.gz file to the themes area
[06:47] <Medic> ok can someone tell me if ubuntu-xen-desktop will give me a xen kernel?
[06:48] <suigeneris> Mike_lifeguard, oh, it had different instructions for intrepid and later
[06:48] <Shoe> Okay, I'm on my Ubuntu computer
[06:49] <firecrotch> devians: sudo mount /dev/sdxy /mountpoint   where x and y are the appropriate letter/number for the device
[06:49] <gartral> its a bad thing when your software buffer bottoms out on writing a cd, isnt it?
[06:50] <Shoe> mezquitale,
[06:50] <Shoe> I'm back
[06:50] <firecrotch> gartral: Yes
[06:50] <lordhedg1hog> firecrotch: I see nothing bad in the logs.
[06:50] <Shoe> Now, my only question was the one about how to install the plugins for youtube and such
[06:51] <leaf-sheep> Shoe: sudo aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree
[06:51] <gartral> firecrotch: even with a drive that caches data and has logical tracking?
[06:51] <zachinneed> hey evryone lol i need help still with adobe flash
[06:51] <thomthom> add/remove and search for flash
[06:51] <zachinneed> or any kind of flash
[06:51] <firecrotch> lordhedg1hog: maybe try sudo apt-get purge firefox && apt-get install firefox
[06:51] <lordhedg1hog> firecrotch: I'll try it, as1
[06:51] <firecrotch> lordhedg1hog: that will completely remove the firefox package and redownload it
[06:51] <unperson> Hi, I'm trying to get my microphone to work on my Jaunty system.  How should I have things setup in volume control in order to record from my microphone?
[06:52] <unperson> There are so many options, and some are a bit ambiguous.
[06:52] <zachinneed> ya i did that and it installed
[06:52] <mezquitale> !ask |Shoe
[06:52] <zachinneed> but web sites are still not working
[06:52] <leaf-sheep> zachinneed: The web sites are broken. :(
[06:53] <zachinneed> lol
[06:53] <mezquitale> Shoe, another way to install flash is to go to youtube.com and then click on the link where it tells you to download flash, click on the link and run it, an application will pop up and you select to install it, it's that easy
[06:53] <lordhedg1hog> firecrotch: No luck.  Tried the same with firefox-3.0 package also didn't work
[06:53] <leaf-sheep> zachinneed: Did you close Firefox and restart?
[06:53] <Shoe> tried that
[06:53] <thomthom> leaf-sheep, have you seen that youtube video :The Website is down"
[06:53] <Shoe> Doesn't work
[06:53] <Condoulo> how would I do something similar to a disk check on Ubuntu?
[06:53] <leaf-sheep> thomthom: Maybe. I'm not sure.
[06:53] <Shoe> That was my original problem
[06:53] <lordhedg1hog> firecrotch: Based on the logs, the only things that updated were firefox, acroread, and a bunch of libboost libs
[06:53] <Shoe> Ugh
[06:54] <Shoe> I'll just search for flash
[06:54] <zachinneed> yes i closed it
[06:54] <ibrar> Is there any command to unplug usb modem
[06:54] <zachinneed> and now it says that a file or something is broken
[06:54] <thomthom> Fx has to be closed fo it to install correctly
[06:54] <zachinneed> does that sound right
[06:54] <leaf-sheep> zachinneed: 32 or 64?
[06:54] <zachinneed> 32
[06:54] <leaf-sheep> zachinneed: What or who say?  The website?  The terminal?
[06:55] <zachinneed> my computer says
[06:55] <firecrotch> lordhedg1hog: have you tried apt-get -f install
[06:55] <zachinneed> well hold on and i will tell you what iit says
[06:55] <zachinneed> okay
[06:55] <mezquitale> Shoe, the way I just told you is easier, some of the flash software youll find in "add/remove" could be buggy, make sure you install the adobe version
[06:55] <surgy> hi
[06:55] <allen_> 你好
[06:56] <Condoulo> is there something similar to chkdsk on Linux or anything I can use to find out if my HDD is dying on me?
[06:56] <lordhedg1hog> firecrotch: Doesn't help
[06:56] <shelah> Hi everyone.  I have a printer that OpenPrinting.org lists as a "paperweight", and another that's not listed on there at all.  Does this mean that there's no way for me to get these printers to work with Ubuntu?
[06:56] <lordhedg1hog> firecrotch: It seems to be installing just fine
[06:56] <jtrage> oooo flash issues.. nasty
[06:56] <NemesisD> hi, anyone know of a way to get firefox 3.5 on jaunty to replace 3.0?
[06:56] <Shoe> mezquitale, when I go to youtube, firefox drops a tab saying I have missing plugins. I click "install missing plugins." Then I click one of the three options, go to install it, and I get an error
[06:56]  * NemesisD hates firefox 3.0
[06:57] <jtrage> Nemesis: dont replace it, just install 3.5 and use it instead
[06:57] <ibrar> I have an kernel module "ztemt.ko"
[06:57] <thomthom> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa
[06:57] <firecrotch> Condoulo: If your hard drive supports SMART, smartmontools  can tell you the status of your hard drive
[06:57] <mezquitale> Shoe, go to "add/remove" and install "Macromedia Flash Plugin"
[06:57] <Shoe> Thank you
[06:57] <firecrotch> Condoulo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Smartmontools
[06:57] <ibrar> Whenever I try to install
[06:57] <ibrar> getting error insmod: error inserting '/home/ibrar/Desktop/zte/usr/local/bin/ztemtEVDO/ztemt.ko': -1 Invalid module format
[06:58] <shelah> Both printers work fine on Windows, but the manufacturers don't support Linux, and I can't find Linux drivers... is there any way I can get these to work?  maybe through wine (or something else) using the Windows drivers?
[06:58] <leaf-sheep> NemesisD: ls -l firefox*  (I'm sure you can figure out the rest, I hope).
[06:58] <leaf-sheep> NemesisD: Err... in /usr/bin/
[06:58] <firecrotch> shelah: What models are the printers?
[06:59] <leaf-sheep> zachinneed: This probably should solve your issue with Flash --> http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-install-flash-player-10.html
[06:59] <firecrotch> shelah: also, I've known OpenPrinting.org to be completely wrong in the past
[06:59] <Shoe> mezquitale, what do I use? All available applications? All open source applications, etc?
[07:00] <zachinneed> okay im back i whent to the adobe web site downloaded the newest version and it whent along good untill install then it comes up error: dependency is not satisfable: libnspr 4-v
[07:00] <theatro> shelah, if you are running CUPS go to http://localhost:631 to config your printers
[07:00] <robinro> where do i find the script, that toogles display and is run when pressing fn-f7 on a thinkpad. /etc/acpi/videobtn.sh only does "acpi_fakekey $KEY_VIDEOOUT"
[07:00] <shelah> firecrotch: Canon MF5750 and Konica 7145 (the Konica is a $3,000 office printer/copier/etc with half a dozen trays))
[07:00] <mezquitale> use "All available applications"
[07:00] <lordhedg1hog> firecrotch: Just noticed it also updated libc6; reinstall that now
[07:00] <AnswerGuy> There's an kernel upgrade from 2.6.28-13 to -14?  Is there an easy place to find the changelog on the web (the 9.04 system in questions is a customer's, I don't have one handy)
[07:00] <shelah> theatro: sorry, don't know what CUPS is, so I'm not using it unless it ships with Ubuntu
[07:00] <firecrotch> lordhedg1hog: that could definitely be the cause
[07:01] <lordhedg1hog> firecrotch: Darn, no luck there.  Forced a redownload and all.
[07:01] <NemesisD> leaf-sheep: sudo ln -s /usr/bin/firefox-3.5 /usr/bin/firefox ?
[07:01] <leaf-sheep> NemesisD: Sounds about right.  You might want to remove firefox first then link it.
[07:01] <cyc> hi there
[07:01] <lordhedg1hog> firecrotch: I must have a bad lib somewhere since more than one app is segfaulting
[07:01] <mezquitale> Shoe,  use "All available applications"
[07:01] <zachinneed> i dont get it i did everything the same as last time  but this time it wont come up
[07:02] <Shoe> Well, when I use that, not even Macromedia yields any results mezquitale
[07:02] <thomthom> 2.6.31-4-generic #23-Ubuntu SMP Mon Jul 27 18:39:59 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[07:02] <NemesisD> man acroread is enormous
[07:02] <lordhedg1hog> firecrotch: Is there an easy way to see what libs an app is calling, since liferea probably calls far fewer than firefox?
[07:02] <cyc> I'm trying to use Evolution for my Exchange mail account ... and it's *really* slow with the folder refreshing. It takes minutes ... Is this normal?
[07:02] <KB1JWQ> lordhedg1hog: ldd
[07:02] <KB1JWQ> lordhedg1hog: Also ltrace
[07:02] <zachinneed> so if i reinstall 8.04 do you think that i would be able to do it right
[07:02] <joel__> fuck
[07:02] <libtech> !language
[07:02] <KB1JWQ> lordhedg1hog: The latter is better for tracing specific calls.
[07:02] <mezquitale> Shoe,  go to "Update manager" in "system-->administration".  Update your system and come back later in the morning
[07:03] <zachinneed> or well what is the right way to do it
[07:03] <joel__> shoe
[07:03] <Shoe> It takes that long mezquitale?
[07:03] <Shoe> What joel__
[07:03] <joel__> shoe
[07:04] <Shoe> what
[07:04] <leaf-sheep> Anybody here experienced with git?  To update in git folder, I do what?
[07:04] <NemesisD> leaf-sheep: what do you mean update in git folder?
[07:04] <mezquitale> Shoe,  it all depends on your internet connection
[07:04] <NemesisD> leaf-sheep: like pull from another repo and merge?
[07:05] <mezquitale> you can also install the software using the command line which is a  LOT easier, if you want to learn how to do that
[07:05] <joel__> how do you update a shoe?
[07:05] <leaf-sheep> NemesisD: I have a git folder and I'd like to sync'd to latest one. I looked up and get "git pull" -- I wanted confirmation.
[07:05] <Shoe> you're retarded
[07:05] <NemesisD> leaf-sheep: yeah git pull is usually what you want, it does git-fetch and git-merge
[07:05] <mezquitale> !ask | joel__
[07:05] <leaf-sheep> NemesisD: Thanks. I need to learn how to use git more. :)
[07:05] <NemesisD> there's also rebase but that makes funny burning smells come from my brain
[07:05] <firecrotch> !ot
[07:06] <NemesisD> leaf-sheep: do you happen to use vim as an editor?
[07:06] <kamen> hey all
[07:06] <leaf-sheep> NemesisD: No I do not.  I generally use gedit or nano.  Occasionally Monodevelop.
[07:06] <joel__> there was a fire in glendale today
[07:06] <NemesisD> leaf-sheep: ah ok, nm then
[07:06] <joel__> right in my backyard
[07:06] <mezquitale> !ot
[07:06] <kamen> diving back into ubuntu after a while gone but hitting a bit of a problem with fglrx
[07:06] <Shoe> hey mezquitale, update manager popped up saying I have a 134MB update. Is this what you're talking about?
[07:06] <mezquitale> !ot| joel__
[07:07] <joel__> what is ubuntu?
[07:07] <NemesisD> a type of fruit salad
[07:07] <mezquitale> Shoe, yes, if your machine is fast it should do it in matter of minutes
[07:07] <Shoe> How did this kid make it into this channel?
[07:07] <thomthom> !Ubuntu
[07:07] <joel__> how do you get ubuntu?
[07:07] <Loafers> !kick joel__
[07:07] <libtech> !getubuntu
[07:07] <Shoe> mezquitale, won't take more than a minute. I'll be back soon. How much longer will you be on
[07:07] <alucard> morning is there a way to install dupal via synaptic so it uses the xampp instead of the ordinary "lamp" features synaptics wants to install - for instance apache2
[07:08] <Leoneof> hi ^_^
[07:08] <mezquitale> !download
[07:08] <joel__> whats the difference between ubuntu and debian?
[07:08] <Kevin1a> joel_: google
[07:08] <libtech> !debian
[07:08] <mezquitale> !download| libtech
[07:08] <Loafers> !google joel__
[07:08] <Loafers> !google | joel__
[07:08] <joel__> what is repositories?
[07:08] <Shoe> mezquitale, won't take more than a minute. I'll be back soon. How much longer will you be on
[07:08] <gogeta> lol
[07:08] <thomthom> !Synaptic
[07:08] <gogeta> someone wake up the ops
[07:09] <kamen> I am having trouble with fglrx, got the "unsupported hardware" watermark. I found a forum post saying replace my control file with one from an older driver but no clue where to get it from
[07:09] <AnswerGuy> joel__: Are you testing the 'bot or just the patience of the other people in the room?
[07:09] <mezquitale> Shoe, ill be on for a few more minutes but there's a lot of people that can help you, people that know a lot more than me
[07:09] <Loafers> How do i get the bot to tell you to google it?
[07:09] <joel__> testing the bot
[07:09] <Leoneof> anybody can help me? i need GUI to connect PPPOE instead of writing in Terminal "pon dsl-provider"  everytime :'(
[07:09] <AnswerGuy> Right.
[07:09] <alucard> i have xampp installed with help from a user here - but when i use synaptic to install drupal - it wants to install apache 2  - which is installed
[07:09] <Flannel> joel__: #ubuntu-offtopic would be a good place for that question, not here.
[07:09] <joel__> how do i go there?
[07:10] <Loafers> !ot
[07:10] <Flannel> alucard: xampp is silly to use on a linux system.  Why not just use a proper lamp stack?
[07:10] <gogeta> Leoneof: the network manager can do ppoe
[07:10] <Flannel> joel__: /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:10] <AnswerGuy> So where can I can an online changelog to the kernel packages?
[07:10] <alucard> I agree
[07:10] <thomthom> !kernel
[07:10] <Leoneof> gogeta: i have wireless, not adsl :-X
[07:10] <Flannel> AnswerGuy: packages.ubuntu.com has a link to them
[07:10] <joel__> hi
[07:11] <joel__> is it possible to control other pc's using ubuntu?
[07:11] <gogeta> lol
[07:11] <Loafers> !die | joel__
[07:11] <gogeta> !op
[07:11] <agent_j> !telnet | joel__
[07:11] <Flannel> gogeta: Eh?
[07:11] <gogeta> that shoulds wake em
[07:11] <joel__> like remote desktop
[07:12] <mezquitale> joel__, yes it is
[07:12] <Slart_> joel__: there are several remote desktop like apps available.. vnc, freenx are two
[07:12] <Flannel> gogeta: What do you need operators for?
[07:12] <thomthom> no
[07:12] <thomthom> ssh is command line
[07:12] <gogeta> Flannel: just watch
[07:12] <gogeta> lol
[07:12] <leaf-sheep> gogeta: That's not nice thing to do.
[07:13] <libtech> what about terminal server client?
[07:14] <KittyBoots> I am trying to install java so that I can explore Icloud but I can not figure out how to install it, help please.
[07:15] <nanotube> !java | KittyBoots
[07:15] <nanotube> KittyBoots: in other words... grab package "sun
[07:15] <nanotube> "sun-java6-jre" from the repos.
[07:16] <KittyBoots> ok
[07:16] <Leviathan185> i am having issues installing a php plug-in for eclipse can anyone help?
[07:16] <gogeta> -1 for me no free internet
[07:17] <nanotube> KittyBoots: if this "icloud" thing is a web browser applet, then you also have to install "sun-java6-plugin" (or something like that), to get the plugin in the browser.
[07:17] <gogeta> could computing hehe
[07:18] <Leviathan185> i am having issues installing a php plug-in for eclipse can anyone help?
[07:18] <KB1JWQ> Leviathan185: What's the issue?
[07:19] <Leviathan185> i have downloaded the plugin but dont know how to install
[07:19] <KittyBoots> nanotube: it worked thatyou!
[07:19] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[07:20] <kamen> is there an alternative to fglrx for a radeon hd 4200?
[07:20] <bindaas> virtualbox,how can i share folder between ubuntu as host and xp as guest ?
[07:20] <Condoulo> is GRUb the last thing an install configures?
[07:20] <firecrotch> bindaas: samba
[07:21] <Anarch> My microphone stopped working when I upgraded to Hardy, and has never worked since.  Googling and Cuilling haven't found The Clue yet.  Any recommended HOWTOs or documents for somebody who doesn't know what 'PCM' stands for but likes the command line?
[07:21] <Condoulo> ok, I got this error the install: subprocess post-removal script returned error exist status 30
[07:22] <Condoulo> 	at 96%
[07:22] <bindaas> firecrotch: do i really need samba ,btw i don't have any network ?
[07:22] <ShapeShifter499> I have Ultimate Edition 2.3 AKA Ubuntu 9.04 on my acer aspire one and I put a DVD+RW into my usb drive and I can't seem to use the RW part of my disk, why is that
[07:23] <Flannel> !ultimate | ShapeShifter499
[07:23] <v1nsai> quick question im having problems with usb transfer speeds how can i tell what speed the system has used when mounting it?  I'm reading the bug report for it but it starts in ubuntu 7.10 and it seems to have been moved
[07:23] <Leviathan185> I am new to Linux... What is a .tgz and how do i install its contents
[07:23] <Anarch> kasc:Onboard the Intel 965 mobo.
[07:23] <firecrotch> bindaas: as far as I know, that's the only way to share files between an XP guest with a Ubuntu host.  Even if the machine is not connected to a network, there is a virtual network created between the host and guest
[07:23] <gartral> ShapeShifter499: are you sure the diskdrive can handle +RWs?
[07:23] <ShapeShifter499> yes
[07:24] <Flannel> ShapeShifter499: Ultimate Edition isn't supported here, you'll need to take it to their support channels.
[07:24] <gartral> ShapeShifter499: try clearing the disk with wodim in the terminal..
[07:24] <bindaas> firecrotch: thanks !
[07:25] <ShapeShifter499> Flannel: common! its basically ubuntu with some add-ons
[07:25] <firecrotch> Leviathan185: a .tgz file is a compressed archive, similar to a .zip archive (different compression algorithm).  As for installing from one, you should not have to under most circumstances.  Nearly all the software that you'll want to install can be found in Add/Remove Programs
[07:25] <kamen> where can I find older versions of the fglrx driver?
[07:25] <Flannel> ShapeShifter499: No, it's really not.  There's some major changes to some of the subsystems.
[07:25] <firecrotch> bindaas: You're welcome! :)
[07:25] <ShapeShifter499> Flannel: they don't have support irc channels i don't think
[07:26] <ShapeShifter499> gartral: I'll try that
[07:26] <gartral> ShapeShifter499: firstoff.. try wodim -prcap
[07:27] <ShapeShifter499> Flannel: what are some of the changes, I've used ubuntu vanilla(original install) and I haven't seen much difference.
[07:27] <ShapeShifter499> gartral: ok
[07:27] <Leviathan185> firecrotch: I am trying to install eclipse and the version I have installed through add/remove will not allow me to add the php add-on for some reason so I am tryig to install the complete package from pulse
[07:28] <Flannel> ShapeShifter499: I don't have them handy, but the guy who keeps it doesn't have the best grasp on best practices.
[07:30] <ShapeShifter499> gartral: I'm getting problems, here--------> http://paste.ubuntu.com/247777/
[07:30] <vital_> Leviathan185, if you try to install eclipse, I guess you need just unpack archive and start the application from unpacked folder
[07:31] <Leviathan185> vital: please forgive me I am a noob to linux. how do i install once unpacked?
[07:31] <firecrotch> omg boxxy
[07:31] <Flannel> alucard: Did you follow all of the steps here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP#After%20installing%20MySQL ?
[07:31] <gartral> ShapeShifter499: sudo wodim -prcap
[07:32] <vital_> Leviathan185, you can put into filesystem and add it into path
[07:32] <ShapeShifter499> I did that all ready, look at bottom of the link I gave
[07:32] <xor> Hi there.
[07:32] <Leviathan185> vital: to which path?
[07:33] <vital_> Leviathan185, but also you can start it directly from unpacked folder without "installing"
[07:34] <ShapeShifter499> gartral: I did that all ready, look at bottom of the link I gave
[07:34] <xor> I'm using Ubuntu 9.04 and in my Software Sources I had previously setup "Download from: Server for Portugal". I tried changing it to "Main Server" to see how the speed was, and then the option to download from the Portuguese server vanished. Is there anyway to bring it back?
[07:34] <vital_> Leviathan185, for instance: sudo mkdir -p /opt/sun ; sudo cp <eclipse_unpacked_folder> /opt/sun
[07:35] <brand0con> where are bash aliases stored?  I've tried .bashrc .profile and a few others but cant seem to figure it out
[07:35] <vital_> Leviathan185, sudo ln -s /opt/sun/eclipse/<start_script_name> /usr/local/bin
[07:35] <gartral> ShapeShifter499: did you remember to unmount the disk defore you tryed this?
[07:35] <vital_> Leviathan185, better sudo ln -s /opt/sun/eclipse/<start_script_name> /usr/local/bin/eclipse
[07:35] <ShapeShifter499> gartral: ok hold on......
[07:36] <vital_> Leviathan185, then you can start it with "eclipse" from shell
[07:36] <Innxis> Good day! I have a annoying problem. Everytime I play a game, my PC frezzes.
[07:36] <Innxis> I give more details now...
[07:36] <brand0con> where are bash aliases stored?  google is failing me
[07:37] <Innxis> For example: If I play ATITD (A tale in the Desert) my PC crashes. Everything stops but I can still move the cursor for a while, after that, the cursor freezes as well.
[07:37] <Flannel> brand0con: ~/.bashrc and ~/.profiles for user stuffs, global stuff is also in /etc/bash.bashrc
[07:37] <ShapeShifter499> gartral: ok got it to work, now what? am I done
[07:37] <ShapeShifter499> ?
[07:37] <PoPpiLLs> /home/user/.bashrc
[07:37] <Innxis> There are cases when the screen blinks a black screen and then it crashes.
[07:38] <gartral> ShapeShifter499: after an unmount do a sudo wodim -prcap if the drive checks out, do a sudo wodim blank all and WAIT.. if that fails.. sudo wodim blank -force but be CAREFUL i cant *NOT* stress how dangorus the -force flas is!!!
[07:38] <Innxis> But now the gaming become fully unplayable. Everytime I log into the game, it crashes.
[07:38] <horison> um, anyone can tell me why i cant execute any command after i launched firefox from terminal until i closed it?
[07:38] <ShapeShifter499> gartral: ok!
[07:38] <xor> horison: You need to launch firefox like this... "firefox &"
[07:39] <Innxis> Someone at least is reading what I'm typing?
[07:39] <horison> oh, ya i tried it and it works, but some time i forgot to type the & and it stuck there...
[07:39] <horison> can tell me any way to stop it?
[07:39] <xor> horison: Ctrl + C
[07:40] <xor> horison: This kills firefox.
[07:40] <horison> wah,tq2
[07:40] <xor> horison: Ctrl + Z stops firefox.
[07:40] <bu> my PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Card cant connect to networks!! any solutions?
[07:40] <Innxis> It's nice to be ignored.
[07:40] <horison> i've been looking the whole night yesterday and cant find the solution-.-
[07:41] <bu> Innxis: come again
[07:41] <HighLordObsi> waddap home skillits
[07:41] <Innxis> bu: Type again or what?
[07:41] <viril> hi
[07:41] <bu> yea Innxis:  cuz i just got in here
[07:41] <Innxis> Good day! I have a annoying problem. Everytime I play a game, my PC frezzes.
[07:41] <Innxis> I give more details now...
[07:41] <Innxis> For example: If I play ATITD (A tale in the Desert) my PC crashes. Everything stops but I can still move the cursor for a while, after that, the cursor freezes as well.
[07:41] <kamen> Innxis: it happens. I've retyped different questions about 7 times now. someone will get to it, relax
[07:41] <FloodBot1> Innxis: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:42] <HighLordObsi> man my lowe case R doesnt wok
[07:42] <Innxis> There are cases when the screen blinks a black screen and then it crashes.
[07:42] <Innxis> But now the gaming become fully unplayable. Everytime I log into the game, it crashes.
[07:42] <eross> i'm at a point where i want to add maybe a music track to a game, even if it's cheesy MIDI, and sound effects. is there a preferred open sourced library I can integrate? Preferably c/c++
[07:42] <eross> and maybe a midi track maker or sound tracker type tool
[07:42] <viril> question: i have ubuntu 9.04 installed. i don't know what happened but all of the sudden, when i plug my usb drive in, nothing shows up on my desktop. please help. thanks!
[07:42] <Innxis> kamen: The gaming became fully unplayable.
[07:43] <HighLordObsi> bRb...maybe RestaRting will help
[07:43] <bu> viril:  try a different slut
[07:43] <viril> bu: i can mount the usb drive manually
[07:43] <horison> viril:check my computer?
[07:44] <Innxis> So what am I supposed to do? Stay with my hands crossed and wait?
[07:44] <bu> viril:  so it can be mount a=manualy but automatically it doesnt?
[07:44] <bu> autu*
[07:44] <horison> Innxis:reinstall?
[07:44] <viril> horison, computer shows USB but when clicked, says "Unable to mount volume"
[07:44] <kamen> ya pretty much. dig around for solutions on the web and check back here every so often see if anyone has replied
[07:44] <Innxis> horison: reinstall what?
[07:44] <abddu> innxis ... it might be a graphical problem ... from experience ...
[07:44] <Innxis> abddu: nvidia inside
[07:45] <horison> innixis: the game
[07:45] <xor> I'm using Ubuntu 9.04 and in my Software Sources I had previously setup "Download from: Server for Portugal". I tried changing it to "Main Server" to see how the speed was, and then the option to download from the Portuguese server vanished from the listing. Is there anyway to bring it back?
[07:45] <viril> bu, yes ... i want it automatically mounted as soon as i plug it in
[07:45] <om26er> !codecs
[07:45] <Innxis> horison: already did. both...systems and game
[07:45] <viril> bu, just like before
[07:45] <horison> viril:ouch, that outside my knowledge
[07:45] <ShapeShifter499> gartral: it says "This drive or media does not support the 'BLANK media' command
[07:45] <ShapeShifter499> wodim: Cannot blank disk, aborting."
[07:45] <viril> horison, thanks
[07:45] <Leviathan185> thanks Vital: i think i got it
[07:45] <Innxis> horison: it also happens to Urban Terror
[07:46] <horison> innixis:um, maybe game requirement too high?
[07:46] <viril> horison, maybe this is a bug i'm not sure. nautilus used to popup when i plug my usb drive in
[07:46] <paul68> I have php and mysql installed and I have a standard www folder under the var directory. normally you just type localhost/ in your browser to get a listing of your www directory however this aint working how do I check if everything is working correctly
[07:46] <Innxis> horison: Intel Pentium 4 HT 3.06 3.06, 1gb ram, nvidia nx7600gs 512ram 128 bit
[07:46] <abddu> innxis: which nvidia? did u try to use different drivers and stuff ...
[07:47] <kamen> my problem aint just games. I installed the latest fglrx and now I have this "unsupported hardware" watermark in the corner of my screen. trying to find an alternative driver that supports my chipset (HD 4200 integrated)
[07:47] <Innxis> abddu: changing drivers won't work
[07:47] <horison> viril:could be,,,
[07:47] <HighLordObsi> ahh...back...
[07:48] <ShapeShifter499> gartral: what do I do?? :'(
[07:48] <blognewb> hey guys have you ever encountered a "no such file or directory" error message? I was doing a sudo nano and the conf was empty!
[07:48] <abddu> Innxis: do you have logs ... i mean before the crash happens ... exactly after you start .. maybe you can find some clues there ..
[07:48] <horison> Innxis:em,idk the probelm,sry......
[07:48] <Innxis> abddu: I tried looking in the logs but I coudn't find anything
[07:48] <HighLordObsi> blognewb: just about everything I try to do gives me that message lol
[07:49] <Innxis> abddu: I mean, something intresting like a kernel panic or something
[07:49] <piglit> blognewb, and the file wasnt hidden?
[07:49] <abddu> Innxis: does that game work with other ubuntu users? ...
[07:49] <Innxis> abddu: Yes
[07:49] <blognewb> piglit: no it's showing up on filezilla but when i try to edit it on putty it's empty
[07:49] <abddu> maybe its a software "bug" which is making all this headache for u ..
[07:50] <kamen> am about ready to go ripping hair out at this point
[07:50] <rodimus> haha hair
[07:50] <HighLordObsi> hair ripping isn't reccomended
[07:50] <rodimus> rip it!
[07:50] <rodimus> :)
[07:50] <HighLordObsi> i'm already going bald...if you're gonna rip it out, can I have it?
[07:50] <Innxis> abddu: I was thinking that it could be a hardware problem
[07:51] <kamen> I'm glad my frustration amuses you
[07:51] <HighLordObsi> everything amuses me at three am...sorry :D
[07:51] <kamen> but this is seriously starting to piss me off
[07:52] <abddu> Innxis: it could be anything for sure ... but as far as i know that card does work with ubuntu ...
[07:52] <kamen> am looking on google, yahoo, etc and getting nothing but false leads
[07:52] <Innxis> abddu: Reinstalled the game, it seems that it didn't crash yet.
[07:52] <HighLordObsi> i can't get my sound to work, and apparently i have set up something incorrectly cos i don't have permission to edit files or to build
[07:52] <abddu> try to check the logs when the system dies from another machine if u have another ....
[07:52] <JuoNs> fuck
[07:52] <shay26> Hello , i would like to install .deb file from the terminal using this command : sudo dpkg -i package.deb  but it seems the package need some dependency .. but when i run the .deb file from gui , i got screen with that asking me to confirm to download the dependency .. does it possible to tell the command line to auto-download dependency ?
[07:52] <Innxis> abddu: I will reconnect if the problem persists.
[07:52] <eross> what's a good audio programming library I can use to play either wav or mp3s (or ogg)?
[07:53] <ShapeShifter499> uh-oh :o can a drive that reads and writes cd/dvds that are -r or -rw work with a dvd+rw?
[07:53] <kerm|t> why cant i mount an nfs server?  strace says its trying to find mount.nfs
[07:53] <nacho_> have a problem , my laptop shuts down when i open fullscreen flash
[07:54] <paul68> I have php and mysql installed and I have a standard www folder under the var directory. normally you just type localhost/ in your browser to get a listing of your www directory however this aint working how do I check if everything is working correctly
[07:54] <abddu> eross .... rythmbox is best so far with me ..
[07:54] <eross> i can integrate it into my game (c/c++)?
[07:54] <abddu> paul68 ... are those servers and services running?
[07:54] <dust> any tips for a noob
[07:55] <nacho_> have a problem , my laptop shuts down when i open fullscreen flash, somebody help please haha
[07:55] <HighLordObsi> now to open bittorrent to download another build...and hopefully to keep me connected to the net....brb
[07:55] <blognewb> ls = locate?
[07:55] <AlphaBravo> chicks love ubuntu
[07:55] <abddu> no ls != locate
[07:56] <HighLordObsi> lol, the name is sooooo cute
[07:56] <blognewb> abddu: ln?
[07:56] <abddu> crazy chicks u mean ,,,
[07:56] <abddu> ln does links for u
[07:56] <horison> anyone can tell me what the command to open a port?
[07:56] <AnswerGuy> kerm|t: The mount command may try (harmlessly) to find specific mount.* commands before executing its own build-in code (or doing a dlopen() load of certainly .so (shared object) DLLs)
[07:57] <paul68> abddu: as far as I know yes how do I make sure?
[07:57] <AnswerGuy> SO if I strace mount -t foo ... then I might very well see an attempt to execve() a mount.foo command.
[07:58] <abddu> what package ur w=using paul?
[07:58] <abddu> i have to go ... if xampp for example ... /opt/lampp/lampp restart
[07:58] <pierce> anyone know why all my google searches are being redirected to the ubuntu custum search results?
[07:58] <pierce> I disabled the ubuntu firefox plugin, and get the same thing
[07:58] <abddu> /etc/init.d/apache2
[07:58] <SomePerson> I'm running 9.04 on an old system with a GeForce2 Pro card.  3D worked fine under 8.10, but I can't get it to work on 9.04, even using the correct legacy nvidia drivers.  Any idea how to get this working?
[07:58] <Flannel> pierce: you're on Karmic, right?
[07:58] <paul68> abddu: just php
[07:58] <abddu> /etc/init.d/mysql start
[07:58] <pierce> Flannel: ya
[07:58] <Flannel> pierce: #ubuntu+1 for Karmic support, thanks
[07:59] <nacho_> have a problem , my laptop shuts down when i open fullscreen flash, somebody help please
[07:59] <abddu> sorry ... have to go ... gd luck!
[07:59] <AnswerGuy> BTW: I think the Jaunty kernel update from 2.6.28-13 to -14 is related to this: http://lwn.net/Articles/342420/ (based on the -fno-delete-null-pointer-checks line in the change log at: http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/l/linux/linux_2.6.28-14.47/changelog)
[07:59] <kamen> I cant even find the chipset on atis website
[08:00] <BTK_Green_River> someone unban me from ##mac
[08:00] <kerm|t> AnswerGuy: so, why doesnt it work exactly?
[08:01] <kerm|t> what package has all the man 2 pages
[08:01] <BTK_Green_River> Unban me dammit
[08:01] <anon^_^> any Ubuntu 9.04 users in here willing to be a test guinea for me?
[08:01] <plagueusr> what is the name of the flash lib for mozilla?
[08:01] <Flannel> BTK_Green_River: This channel has no relation to ##mac, you'll need to speak to their operators
[08:01] <pierce> Flannel: no one in there is talking, do you know the reason?
[08:01] <BTK_Green_River> flannel: why not?
[08:02] <horison> anon^_^, test on what
[08:02] <anon^_^> System > Administration > Log Viewer
[08:02] <Flannel> pierce: Because they're all asleep.  They'll get back to you, just leave your question and someone'll answer soon enough
[08:02] <anon^_^> do you see a permission error?
[08:02] <Flannel> BTK_Green_River: Because this is #ubuntu
[08:02] <BTK_Green_River> flannel: why not
[08:02] <pierce> Flannel: I mean the reason why ubuntu has taken over my firefox config
[08:02] <horison> anon^_^, me?
[08:02] <Shtl> how to find the installed package path???/
[08:02] <Flannel> pierce: Right.  They'll be able to tell you.
[08:02] <anon^_^> getting the following error when checking Log File Viewer
[08:02] <AnswerGuy> kerm|t: I don't know why your NFS isn't working --- probably a packet filtering / firewall issue.  I'm just suggesting that an strace showing an attempt to open some non-existent file or exec some non-existent utility is not necessarily the real problem.
[08:03] <anon^_^> horison I'm asking anyone with Ubuntu 9.04 to test
[08:03] <horison> anon^_^, i'm on 9.04
[08:03] <anon^_^> System > Administration > Log File Viewer
[08:03] <AnswerGuy> What is the exact error you get? (From the command line or in /var/log/messages)?
[08:03] <anon^_^> and see if an error pops up
[08:03] <HighLordObsi> i'm on 9.04...taking forever to load though
[08:03] <anon^_^> /var/log/btmp
[08:04] <anon^_^> "you don't have enough permissions to read the file"
[08:04] <haytham-med> hi all, can i run trickle on firefox?
[08:04] <anon^_^> bug obviously of some kind, trying to see if other people are seeing it as well
[08:04] <haytham-med> seems i cant
[08:04] <Slart_> anon^_^: why is it a bug? it's a permissions thing
[08:04] <anon^_^> It's a bug because there shouldn't be an error in the log file viewer
[08:05] <horison> System > Administration > Log File Viewer
[08:05] <anon^_^> it was reported in Karmic Koala, but seeing it now in Jaunty
[08:05] <anon^_^> might have been the result of some update recently
[08:05] <plagueusr> does any1 know the command to install a flash player on jaunty?
[08:05] <HighLordObsi> i get a long arsed list of logs
[08:05] <anon^_^> you don't need a command to install flash player on jaunty
[08:05] <anon^_^> just follow the instructions
[08:06] <kerm|t> AnswerGuy: not packet filtering or firewall issue, i've been using nfs on linux for a decade, something is weird with ubuntu
[08:06] <anon^_^> http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/releasenotes_64bit.html#install
[08:06] <SomePerson> how stable is karmic alpha right now?
[08:06] <plagueusr> anon^_^:  ty ty
[08:06] <anon^_^> that's for Ubuntu 9.04 64bit
[08:06] <anon^_^> paguser
[08:06] <HighLordObsi> darn my slow internet
[08:06] <anon^_^> that's only for 64bit
[08:07] <timing> I just updated my firefox and it is unable to start. More people with that problem?
[08:07] <timing> ( i updated through apt _
[08:07] <kamen> WTF... its like the 4200 doesnt exist according to anything on atis website
[08:07] <anon^_^> Firefox starts fine here
[08:07] <anon^_^> horison did you see that erorr?
[08:07] <HighLordObsi> i haven't set up internet in ubuntu yet...so...
[08:08] <plagueusr> anon^_^: i got 64
[08:08] <anon^_^> ok then that's what you need
[08:09] <anon^_^> download the archive from adobe
[08:09] <shay26> Hello , does it possible to tell "make" command to use other version of g++/gcc ?
[08:09] <anon^_^> extract to desktop, follow directions and move the binary
[08:09] <anon^_^> close firefox, then restart
[08:09] <anon^_^> that easy
[08:09] <anon^_^> if you want to remove flash just delete the file
[08:12] <kerm|t> AnswerGuy: oh unbuntu didnt come with the nfs-common package.. i seem to be having to pick out lots of common things i'd expect on a system, is there a way i can install common things other than peacemeal?
[08:13] <shay26> Hello , does it possible to tell "make" command to use other version of g++/gcc ?
[08:14] <plagueusr> anon^_^:  still wont play a damn flash page... -.-'
[08:14] <Arenlor> shay26: Edit the Makefile
[08:14] <plagueusr> anon^_^:  does it require firefox 3.5 maybe?
[08:14] <anon^_^> plagueusr where did you move the binary to
[08:14] <anon^_^> no
[08:14] <anon^_^> I'm using the 64bit plug in in firefox 3.0.x
[08:15] <shay26> Arenlor: i mean without editing the make file , does make have some flag i can add in the command ?
[08:15] <anon^_^> plagueusr you can pm me if you want
[08:15] <Crx686> Can anyone tell me if Ubuntu desktop can log on to a PDC??
[08:16] <theatro> shay26, environment variable CC
[08:16] <theatro> you can put CC= gcc in your makefile too
[08:17] <shay26> theatro: i installed g++-4.1 on my ubuntu , and i would like to tell the make command to use this version , can you give me example how i can do that ?
[08:17] <mbnoimi> I tried to kdesudo dolphin but I got: "Couldn't not start process Cannot talk to klauncher: the name org,k... not provided by any .service file"
[08:18] <Arenlor> shay26: 'make -e CC=/path/to/g++' should work. If they use CC for the compiler
[08:18] <Ileden> Hi! Is it possible to backup a linux/windows partition into a single file, so that it can be mounted from it?
[08:18] <Arenlor> shay26: Why do you not want to edit the Makefile though?
[08:19] <Crx686> Can anyone tell me if Ubuntu desktop can log on to a PDC??(UBUNTU server running ebox)
[08:19] <jacekowski> PDC
[08:19] <jacekowski> sounds like NT domain
[08:20] <Crx686> the ubuntu ebox can act like PDC which is a NT Domain
[08:21] <Crx686> I'm just wondering if the ubuntu desktop can log on to a PDC.
[08:21] <b1> edy
[08:23] <Ileden> The problem is, I have two drives, one that easily fits all the content of the other. I would like to keep the contents of the smaller drive as they are, for later inspection, and empty the drive for other uses. I thought it would be best if I could just get the partitions from the smaller drive as files on the larger drive, so that I could directly mount the files when I need to examine the contents (not having to bother with backup/restore). I don't need to wri
[08:24] <mbnoimi> I tried to kdesudo dolphin but I got: "Couldn't not start process Cannot talk to klauncher: the name org,k... not provided by any .service file"
[08:24] <Ileden> (In fact, is it even possible to "mount" a file...?)
[08:25] <zestyapril> hi
[08:26] <Baconizer> ohaider
[08:26] <Baconizer> About how up-to-date is Ubuntu?
[08:26] <SomePerson> can someone help me with getting compiz 3D desktop effects working?
[08:26] <Ileden> I guess I could just copy all the files, but I don't want to clutter the files system, and one of the partitions is ntfs so I figure there might be problems with file names and such.
[08:26] <Baconizer> On a score of 1 to 10, with '10' being Arch/Fedora and '1' being RHEL
[08:26] <geirha> Ileden: You can mount files, yes
[08:26] <Ileden> Baconizer: what do you mean up-to-date?
[08:27] <Baconizer> Ileden: up-to-date packages
[08:27] <Baconizer> Like the latest version of Python and such
[08:27] <geirha> Ileden: Are they images of entire drives or one and one partition?
[08:27] <Baconizer> I'm gonna try switching over to Ubuntu from Fedora tomorrow
[08:27] <Baconizer> I'm just curious
[08:27] <Baconizer> I'm used to having up-to-date stuffs :P
[08:28] <Ileden> geirha: well right now I have 3 partitions, one of them ntfs, that i would like to copy as files (so I can release the hard disk to other uses)
[08:28] <Baconizer> I heard Ubuntu sort of lagged behind in the "latest packages" department, but that was from someone who didn't like Ubuntu ...
[08:29] <Baconizer> barg
[08:29] <Baconizer> Never mind :P
[08:29] <Dulak> Baconizer: compared to debian unstable that's true, but that's not true if you compare to debian stable
[08:29] <Ileden> Baconizer: as far as I know it does, but I think you can also make it update to the latest developement build
[08:29] <Dulak> Baconizer: it's all about the frame of reference
[08:29] <Baconizer> Dulak: I would certainly hope you guys didn't lag behind Debian stable
[08:30] <Baconizer> Coming from a former Arch, current Fedora user perspective
[08:30] <geirha> Ileden: You could just archive them with tar
[08:30] <Baconizer> Both are fairly bleeding-edge
[08:30] <Baconizer> Before that, Debian testing
[08:30] <Baconizer> Ileden: okay
[08:30] <Ileden> geirha: I was thinking about that... but can I then expolre the tar archive by mountin it? and will tar archive work with possible ntfs file naming schemes?
[08:31] <geirha> Ileden: cd /media/rootoffs1/; sudo tar zcvf /path/to/store/archive.tar.gz .
[08:31] <painted> blah
[08:31] <HighLordObsi> i'm such a noob :o
[08:32] <geirha> Ileden: You can open the archive in the archive manager (by just double-clicking it) and explore what files it contains
[08:33] <Baconizer> How is support in the repo for Haskell?
[08:33] <Baconizer> At the moment, that's really the only important thing for me to have good support for
[08:33] <Ileden> geirha: will this preserve all the possible ntfs stuff (like permission) as well? with direct copying its at least an exact copy?
[08:33] <geirha> Ileden: And there shouldn't be a problem taring down the files in an ntfs filesystem. The problem would be with extracting to an ntfs filesystem, since it's very picky about what characters you can have in filenames. ext3 accepts every concievable character in filenames, except / and \0
[08:33] <poc> Is somebody good at linux's kernel
[08:34] <Ileden> geirha: there's also the file permissions
[08:34] <geirha> Ileden: Permissions on NTFS? Is that something new in newer Ubuntu versions?
[08:34] <Ileden> geirha: it's a windows partition
[08:34] <Boohbah> !ask | poc
[08:35] <geirha> Ileden: At any rate, when tar is run as root (with sudo), it will preserve file permissions and ownership
[08:35] <daya_> is there is any pkg for livecd-iso-to-disk
[08:36] <geirha> Ileden: NTFS did not have file permissions last time I messed around with such
[08:36] <poc> I'm looking for somebody who good at linux's kernel
[08:36] <Ileden> geirha: hmm, windows does have a quite extensive permissions system, but it could of course be with windows itself, not with the file system...
[08:37] <geirha> Ileden: Yeah, those are some ACLs that linux don't see/support. Don't know if they'll be preserved, so it might be best to copy the NTFS from windows.
[08:38] <Dayofswords> poc, freenode has a whole channel just on linux's kernal at ##linux
[08:38] <Ileden> geirha: well if I copy the direct partiton, they'll be presereved. I'd really rather not mess around with windows data copying right now :)
[08:39] <Ileden> geirha: if there is a way to easily copy the entire partition data, that is.
[08:39] <CoUrPsE_CoLlEcTo> My Xchat makes system beeps everytime i press a key, anyone know how to stop this?
[08:40] <geirha> Ileden: Right, well, then unmount the drive, and make an image of the drive then. sudo dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/path/to/store/partition.img
[08:40] <Mikey^> Ileden: you can use ghost for linux
[08:40] <geirha> Ileden: unmount the windows partition I mean. Then run a dd command like that, replacing /dev/sda1 with the correct inode for your case
[08:41] <Ileden> geirha: yup, thanks! so a simple dd is enough. nice!
[08:41] <kraut> moin
[08:43] <Fuzz> Hey, I'm having a problem
[08:43] <rage> Hello, how would one use iptables to drop all traffic from 10.0.2.209 except for traffic destined to/from 10.0.2.17 ?
[08:43] <Mikey^> Fuzz: please ask your question
[08:44] <Fuzz> I installed Savage2, but I installed it in my home folder. Now I can't log on, because it says something about permissions. I uninstalled it, but the problem persisted. How can I make a new user from shell to fix that one?
[08:44] <Mikey^> Fuzz: sudo useradd -m user1 && sudo passwd user1
[08:44] <Fuzz> And just log on as user1?
[08:44] <Fuzz> with that password?
[08:45] <Mikey^> yes
[08:45] <sl00> Hi. All of a sudden I get this error when I try to send email using Evolution.. "Error while performing operation. Welcome response error: mtpd: 213.115.8.8 pid 15844: 451 http://www.spamhaus.org/query/bl?ip=213.115.8.8" .. It seems the IP in the CBL list but still... how can I send emails?!?
[08:45] <Fuzz> Mikey: Thanks a lot
[08:45] <Mikey^> np
[08:46] <Boohbah> sl00: figure out why your IP is listed at spamhaus and get it delisted
[08:46] <sl00> Boohbah: So no one at the office can send ANY emails until I get it unlisted?!?!
[08:47] <reborn3> alexamixer
[08:47] <Boohbah> sl00: you can't send mail to anyone who uses the CBL
[08:47] <florianwilhelm> hi all
[08:47] <Boohbah> The CBL only lists IP addresses that are demonstrably infected by a mass mailing virus, or some sort of spam sending compromise (open proxy, trojan, spambot, insecure AnalogX/wingate etc).
[08:48] <Boohbah> sl00: you need to stop sending spam first
[08:48] <th0r> sl00: you might also check the office computers...it only takes one to get you on that list
[08:48] <florianwilhelm> I have a question regarding gitosis. If I do for instance "git reset --hard HEAD^" in my local repo and then "git push origin +master:master", will my last commit really be lost in my gitosis repo? Is there any way to get it back or can any malicous user with write access to my gitosis repo basically remove my project?
[08:48] <Boohbah> sl00: btw this is offtopic for this channel, msg me if you like
[08:48] <sl00> Hmm... strange.
[08:49] <haytham-med> i have a question, {trickle -d 15 -s firefox} commands launches successfully, while {trickle -d 15 -s firefox-3.5} doesnot launch !!
[08:49] <haytham-med> trickle is a program that limits the bandwidth usage of programs
[08:50] <rage> Hello, how would one use iptables to drop all traffic from 10.0.2.209 except for traffic destined to/from 10.0.2.17 ?
[08:50] <sol93> rage: it's possible
[08:51] <daglees> Hello
[08:51] <rage> sol93: Indeed, I'm so out of practise at iptables :-(
[08:51] <daglees> Is there an application for Ubuntu similar to Windows Sidebar, which adds gadgets that help you with quick tasks?
[08:51] <rage> sol93: and much Googling is not yielding much fruit
[08:51] <haytham-med> any clue
[08:51] <Janhouse> What the hell is wrong with evolution in jaunty?! It doesn't receive all emails from gmail inbox. WHY!?
[08:53] <Dulak> Evolution is a huge pile of steaming crap.
[08:53] <uhok> Dulak, Of course.
[08:54] <Kevin1a> Is there an open-source PDF reader that will let me annotate text as I read it (even just being able to highlight would be a plus)?
[08:55] <Kevin1a> Janhouse: I'm having a similar issue.  I wonder if there is an official bug report yet?
[08:55] <Kevin1a> !pdf
[08:57] <ub20> im using wifi, got slow connection in ubuntu 9.04
[08:57] <Drained> ub20, the "signal" will be lower, but speeds shouldnt vary.
[08:57] <Drained> i have 18% and still get a 32mbs
[08:57] <Kevin1a> Nevermind, Ubottu had an answer for me :)
[08:57] <Janhouse> Kevin1a, I found out why!
[08:57] <Janhouse> :)
[08:57] <Janhouse> Kevin1a, open evolution and go to options.
[08:58] <uhok> How is everyone doing?
[08:58] <Drained> anyone recommend any FPS games for ubuntu that are free?
[08:58] <Janhouse> Preferences
[08:58] <Janhouse> then Mail > Junk
[08:58] <Mikey^> Drained: warzone, nexus
[08:58] <Drained> thanks mikey.
[08:58] <Janhouse> and turn off or change junk filter setting.
[08:58] <Kevin1a> Janhouse: I'm not configured right now since I just reinstalled OS in new configuration.  But I would still like to hear what you found.
[08:58] <Janhouse> Kevin1a, it helped me :)
[08:58] <Drained> nexus makes me nauseous but ill try warzone
[08:59] <Janhouse> Kevin1a, just turn off junk filter or try changing to spamassasin :)
[08:59] <Kevin1a> Drained: OpenArena
[08:59] <Janhouse> Drained, nexuiz, sauerbraten (cube 2)
[08:59] <FlashGordon2000> sup niggaz
[08:59] <Drained> openarena has Quake game play doesnt it? those games are a little too fast for me i get nauseous.
[09:00] <Kevin1a> Janhouse: I already have spam fitering on the network, so I'll just turn it off.  I didn't come asking a question, and you still answered one.  Thanks, O phsykik one!
[09:00] <Janhouse> I think Americas army is free too. Google uo
[09:00] <Janhouse> :D
[09:00] <Drained> i couldnt find AA.
[09:00] <Janhouse> no problem :)
[09:00] <Janhouse> yes
[09:00] <Janhouse> there is no AA :D
[09:00] <Janhouse> I think
[09:00] <Janhouse> in repo
[09:01] <Kevin1a> Drained: yes, there are also some ports of old shooters you might look into (think stuff like Duke Nukem 3d)
[09:01] <Drained> i know there isnt, janhouse, but america's army only retuns AA3.
[09:01] <Drained> so i can't find the linux version iv'e played before
[09:02] <rob-> Hello there all!
[09:02] <rski> Drained: try nQuake
[09:03] <Janhouse> Drained, it looks like they stopped linux support.
[09:03] <Janhouse> for AA
[09:03] <Janhouse> Ofcourse you can play windows games using wine
[09:04] <rob-> Is there anyone here that could possibly help an Ubuntu newbie ? Or point me where i need to be ?
[09:04] <Janhouse> I have Steam running.
[09:04] <Drained> that's what triple boot is for jan ;)
[09:04] <rob-> Janhouse : But you can't play quakelive.com on linux.
[09:04] <Janhouse> Team Fortress 2 works, Counter Strike Source works
[09:04] <Janhouse> all the source engine games work
[09:04] <Dulak> Janhouse: what kind of framerates though?
[09:04] <Drained> wrong l4d is on Source SDK
[09:04] <Drained> and DOES not work
[09:04] <rob-> L4D does work
[09:04] <Janhouse> same as windows? :)
[09:04] <Drained> not mp
[09:04] <rob-> I just finished playing it.
[09:04] <Janhouse> L4D is source engine
[09:04] <Kevin1a> rob: do you haver a question?
[09:04] <Janhouse> they all work
[09:05] <rob-> Yes.
[09:05] <rob-> I do
[09:05] <|kosh|> odd result
[09:05] <Kevin1a> rob: lets hear it.
[09:05] <rob-> It's a sound issue, and seems very complicated to me...(windows user...)
[09:05] <rob-> Well, I have OS sounds... (start up and pidgin) But no sound in any apps nor in youtube videos.
[09:06] <Janhouse> Remove pulseaudio from ubuntu
[09:06] <Drained> which mixer are you using ALSA?
[09:06] <Janhouse> it is the devil :D
[09:06] <rob-> OSS
[09:07] <rob-> I think...
[09:07] <Drained> try Alsa.
[09:07] <Janhouse> And don't forget to remove pulseaudio
[09:07] <rob-> Well, when i switch to ALSA, and test it...it fials.
[09:07] <rob-> Fails*
[09:07] <|kosh|> i have a toshiba a205 with windows 7 rc 64bit and ubuntu 9 32bit installed. in virtualbox with the windows 7 hosting, with 32bit ubuntu 9 as guest, gnome allows 'extra' visual effects, but will not allow it on the hard drive partition installation
[09:07] <Kevin1a> rob: did you look in the sound preferances under the system menu?  I don't know an awful lot about sound issues, but that  would definitely  be the place to start
[09:07] <Janhouse> every time I have problems with sound it is because of pulse audio
[09:08] <|kosh|> is this due to video drivers?
[09:08] <Drained> im calling it a night im feelin odd.......
[09:08] <D3RGPS31> what's the default package for disk management in Ubuntu (besides brasero)
[09:08] <uhok> Does anyone know a good terminal audio player?
[09:08] <uhok> I've used cmus, and mok, but I'm unimpressed.
[09:09] <D3RGPS31> uhok mplayer :D
[09:09] <rob-> Janhouse : how would i remove pulseaudio ?
[09:09] <Janhouse> go to synaptics
[09:09] <uhok> D3RGPS31, mplayer daemon?
[09:09] <Janhouse> or from terminal
[09:09] <Janhouse> sudo apt-get remove pulseaudio
[09:09] <D3RGPS31> uhok: i wouldn't know :D
[09:09] <Loafers> !themes
[09:10] <Kevin1a> !pulseaudio
[09:10] <uhok> Kevin1a, Do you use a terminal player?
[09:10] <|kosh|> it sort of makes me want to ditch the hard drive install and just run it as a vm. is there a good argument not to do this?
[09:10] <uhok> Cmus kind of highlights parts of the window and it's annoying.
[09:11] <uhok> I'm googling, but it's kind of weird.
[09:11] <Kevin1a> uhok: not usually.  I am one of those losers that uses a gui more than is really necessary.  I have messed with VLC in the terminal before.
[09:11] <rob-> Janhouse : I have another question for you :)
[09:11] <Janhouse> listening
[09:11] <linxeh> uhok: tried a different terminal? I find that gnome-terminal is really awful
[09:12] <uhok> linxeh, what do you use for terminal. Xterm?
[09:12] <rob-> Okay, so the little "speaker" by the clock, whenever i mute my mic...there is a little "NO!" symbol over the speaker...is that supposed to be there ? (stupid question i know...)
[09:12] <linxeh> either xterm, or rxvt or similar
[09:12] <D3RGPS31> what's the application that runs when you insert a blank disc or run an iso image; no brasero
[09:13] <Janhouse> rob-, no
[09:13] <Janhouse> :D
[09:13] <Janhouse> did you remove pulseaudio? then restart ubuntu :)
[09:13] <D3RGPS31> Jan
[09:13] <rob-> I have yet to restart.
[09:13] <D3RGPS31> isn't it true, that if you remove pulseaudio you remove ubuntu-desktop?
[09:14] <Dulak> ubuntu-desktop is a meta package it won't hurt to remove it, but you'd want to reinstall it for a dist-upgrade
[09:14] <Saruji_> hey guys quick question, how do I view current running processes in command line?
[09:14] <Saruji_> or gui
[09:14] <Boohbah> what's the official irc channel for the evolution mail client?
[09:14] <Mikey^> Saruji: top
[09:14] <D3RGPS31> Dulak: thank you :o
[09:14] <rob-> okay, then i'll be right back
[09:14] <Janhouse> D3RGPS31, it is only metapackage. you actually don't remove ubuntu desktop :D
[09:14] <Saruji_> Mikey^ thank you!
[09:14] <nibbler> Saruji_: ps waxl, for a grepable output
[09:14] <Mikey^> Saruji_: GUI, system-> Admin-> System monitor
[09:15] <|kosh|> there used to be a gtop
[09:15] <squadron> hi
[09:15] <Saruji_> nibbler: what is a grepable output? Mikey^ thanks again
[09:15] <|kosh|> output obtained from grep
[09:15] <renya> ÔÅÓÔ
[09:16] <|kosh|> grep is a command line file search utility 'man grep' or google
[09:16] <nibbler> saruji_ something you can work with lateron, not only have a look at while its running...
[09:16] <sowjendra> Hi
[09:16] <sowjendra> any one here can help me with rsync command
[09:17] <squadron> what is repository
[09:17] <Saruji_> nibbler ok thanks, question, i'm trying to kill a process and after I enter kill PID# it asks, "kill with signal[15]"?
[09:17] <HighLordObsi> lovely
[09:17] <nibbler> Saruji_: like in: for i in $(ps waxl|grep dontlike|awk '{print $3}'); do kill -9 $i; done     <--- kills all procs who somehow have "dontlike" in their processinfo
[09:17] <sowjendra> i was transforming manually Ubuntu from the help of this site http://www.remastersys.klikit-linux.com/capink.html
[09:18] <nibbler> saruji_: 9 is mercyless kill, try 15 first
[09:18] <HighLordObsi> how goes it y'all
[09:18] <capetown> Good day! Is it possible to make my current Jaunty desktop a LTSP server?
[09:18] <sowjendra> i executed upto sudo rsync -av --one-file-system --exclude=/proc/* --exclude=/dev/*\
[09:18] <sowjendra>  --exclude=/sys/* --exclude=/tmp/* --exclude=/home/*\
[09:18] <sowjendra>  --exclude=/lost+found / ${WORK}/rootfs
[09:18] <linxeh> what happened ?
[09:19] <sowjendra> abrouptly the screen has closed
[09:19] <sowjendra> and now i am out of diskspace
[09:19] <HighLordObsi> hmm...either i screwed up and forgot my root password or...well i don't know what else
[09:19] <linxeh> you didnt have enough free disk space then
[09:19] <linxeh> sowjendra: so it ran out of tmp space too etc
[09:19] <sowjendra> i don't know from where to delete the files
[09:19] <nibbler> saruji_: man signal - for the different options oyu have....
[09:19] <sowjendra> yes
[09:19] <linxeh> sowjendra: it will be in ${WORK}/rootfs
[09:19] <linxeh> sowjendra: rm -rf ${WORK}/rootfs
[09:20] <sowjendra> k i will try pl wait
[09:20] <Saruji> nibbler cool sweet it worked...lol now i got a notification and gnome crashed....lol k, I think this is another issue with the system as it has done this before
[09:20] <linxeh> that will delete everything it tried to copy
[09:21] <Saruji> nibbler i need to update my video drivers, conflict with compiz/jaunty, atleast thats what you guys have told me :) ....thanks for your help
[09:21] <nibbler> saruji_: welcome. good luck with all this
[09:21] <sowjendra> Hi Linexeh .. i hv issued the command
[09:22] <sowjendra> when i check the filesystem properties still it says like 0 bytes free
[09:22] <HighLordObsi> i'm out of tea, i'm out of smokes, and i can't access root
[09:22] <linxeh> sowjendra: ok, hang on
[09:22] <HighLordObsi> lord, i think its time to go to bed
[09:23] <capetown> Has anyone had success with Jaunty LTSP? I would like to turn my Jaunty Desktop (ie. make all installed apps availible) in a LTSP server and make them avaible to thin clients...
[09:23] <linxeh> sowjendra: do you have files in ~/work/rootfs ?
[09:24] <sowjendra> Linxeh : yes still i can see the files
[09:24] <linxeh> sowjendra: ok, so try rm -rf ~/work/rootfs
[09:25] <sowjendra> Linxeh: K i am trying now ..
[09:26] <capetown> oh, I get it... I'm in the wrong forum.
[09:26] <linxeh> capetown: I've used ltsp before, but for serving a basic OS to around 60 servers
[09:27] <azi`> is there any GUI program to extract audio from video files?
[09:28] <|kosh|> i guess running ubuntu in virtualbox seamless mode on windows 7 is really what i wanted
[09:28] <|kosh|> it looks so nice and compiz works!
[09:28] <sowjendra> Linxeh : Thank you very much .. now i got my space
[09:28] <rski> azi`: ffmpeg
[09:28] <rski> or lame maybe
[09:28] <capetown> linxeh: Thank you for the reply! I think I will have to explore websites first! I think I must try the channel for ltsp specifically! Thank you!
[09:28] <|kosh|> you really cant tell the difference
[09:28] <azi`> rski: GUI thing I mean
[09:29] <linxeh> sowjendra: ok cool
[09:29] <linxeh> azi`: there are gui front ends to ffmpeg
[09:29] <azi`> oh, thanks
[09:30] <sowjendra> Linxeh : which is the best method to install and update all the patches in our network .. I mean with out internet
[09:31] <sowjendra> Linxeh : right now i have installed Ubuntu in one system .. I have updated this sytem, i want to make the same to be installed in another few machines
[09:31] <confusedBob> is there some reason i can no longer establish a connection to wifi through the command line in jaunty? it works fine from nm-applet, so I know everything's working...
[09:32] <sowjendra> Linxeh : I tried with reconstructer but i was not success
[09:32] <linxeh> sowjendra: you could copy all the .deb packages you need to a cd and install them all (or share them over nfs)
[09:32] <linxeh> I do it by keeping an rsync mirror of the ubuntu repositories
[09:32] <linxeh> and all our machines then point at that
[09:32] <sowjendra> Linxeh : I have tried like this also .. but for some files it says libraries are missing
[09:33] <linxeh> you must have missed some dependency debs, or got the order wrong
[09:34] <reborn3> ?
[09:34] <sowjendra> Linxeh : I am new to Linux environment .. is there any guide to follow like to follow your steps .
[09:34] <linxeh> sowjendra: another way is to set up a caching proxy, like squid, then just issue the install commands on your other boxes. the first one will download from the internet, the rest should get the cached files
[09:35] <linxeh> sowjendra: there is likely something on the ubuntu wiki or the forums
[09:35] <lars_bauer> how do i redirect std.err to std.out in a bash.  ( cmd | othercmd ) &2>&1 ?
[09:36] <sowjendra> Linxeh : Ok i will search for that .. if not i will come back to you .. thank you very much for the help
[09:37] <linxeh> sowjendra: I'm about to leave for the day, so I wont be online for 9 hours or so - this channel will get more lively in a few hours when the US wakes up :)
[09:38] <sowjendra> Linxeh : ok thank you.
[09:38] <iwobbles> is it possible to roll back updates in 9.04 ? having problems with firefox since updating
[09:38] <anon^_^> sure
[09:39] <confusedBob> iwobbles: can you not just fix the firefox problems?
[09:39] <anon^_^> what version of firefox are you using
[09:39] <anon^_^> and what's wrong?
[09:39] <anon^_^> start there first, if necessary roll back
[09:39] <iwobbles> im not sure how to confusedBob,, all the buttons are missing and I cant email anymore
[09:39] <confusedBob> hehe
[09:40] <confusedBob> maybe remove and reinstall it?
[09:40] <yodaanneaux> un bourguignon!
[09:40] <yodaanneaux> sorry..
[09:41] <Kottizen> np :)
[09:41] <iwobbles> mm I triedthat but the latest version installs and result is the same I was thinking of just reloading 9.04 completley and turning off updates permanantly I have the same issue on 3 different machines
[09:41] <silare> Hi, I was wondering if anyone here knows of a good GTD app for Linux that is GTK-based. I've found some command-line ones, etc. but I'd very much just like something that looks like a simple To-Do List. I just migrated from a Mac where I was used to using The Hit List, but I'm sure Linux has a suitable equivalent somewhere.
[09:41] <iwobbles> Im not sure how to pick and choose the earlier version of firefox to install from synaptic
[09:42] <confusedBob> when you say no buttons - is there like the space to add the buttons?
[09:42] <silare> iwobbles: Select the 'firefox' package and Package --> Force Version (Ctrl+E) will do it.
[09:43] <iwobbles> ta silare I will try that
[09:43] <silare> iwobbles: Tell me how it works. :P
[09:44] <iwobbles> yep will try lol :)
[09:44] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[09:44] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[09:46] <ShapeShifter499> can I get help editing a makefile? I want to add a command so that the output file is placed somewhere else than the directory the makefile is, because I'm going to put that file into a .deb pakage
[09:48] <ShapeShifter499> w8 is there somewhere I could go to tell me everything I need to make/edit a makefile?
[09:48] <iwobbles> hm silare i tried using synaptic but it just loads the new version, should I be using sudo from terminal ?
[09:48] <silare> Oh.
[09:48] <silare> Okay...
[09:48] <silare> In synaptic...
[09:48] <silare> Get to the package you want...
[09:48] <silare> So have the 'firefox' package selected...
[09:49] <iwobbles> ok yeah and then ?
[09:49] <n3n3> hola
[09:49] <silare> Press Ctrl+E (or Package --> Force Version...) and it'll give you a dropdown box of all versions carried in all of the repositories you have on your software sources.
[09:49] <n3n3> cual es el int de arranque en ubuntu? el2 o el 5?
[09:50] <silare> If all you happen to have is one option in that dropdown box, then try adding some more repos to your sources.list or so.
[09:50] <bazhang> n3n3, #ubuntu-es por espanol
[09:50] <iwobbles> ok yeah and then CTRL E ? silare ?
[09:50] <silare> Yeah...
[09:50] <silare> When the firefox package is highlighted, hit Ctrl+E and then you'll be presented with a popup with a dropdown box.
[09:51] <silare> Find the version you want.
[09:51] <iwobbles> ok ta silare
[09:51] <silare> Did it work? :P
[09:53] <iwobbles> nope CTRL E nothing happens when I apply it still installs new version
[09:53] <silare> o_O
[09:53] <silare> Okay...
[09:53] <silare> Hang on.
[09:54] <silare> Okay, is it installed yet?
[09:55] <silare> Can you explain in detail each step you did, all the way down to which button you pressed when?
[09:55] <iwobbles> yes it is silare
[09:56] <iwobbles> About Firefox says its 3.0.8 eh silare
[09:56] <Nullslash>  OK, I have really wired problem with my CPU Frequency Scaling Monitor. When I put heavy load on my computer, CPU-Frequency reduce the CPU power to 40% only !! . Even if you switched to performance. Should I report a new bug ?
[09:56] <silare> iwobbles: What's the most recent for you and the one you chose?
[09:57] <ShapeShifter499> ok I think I know what to do, but is there a makefile command that tells make to put out put into /home/*name of user thats installing*/Desktop/*output file*     ?
[09:57] <gartral> Nullslash: are you sure your cooling it right?
[09:58] <iwobbles> ok will try to explain I selected a firefox package and a window popped up asking to select several parts I think, I said ok and then I tried CTRL E but nothing happened
[09:58] <kamalnandan> how do we install karmic release on jaunty using chroot?
[09:58] <kamalnandan> any clue??
[09:59] <Nullslash> gartral, No I'm not, Because my computer shuts off when I try to install any anther OS's ,
[09:59] <iwobbles> I loved the old version because the adds didnt load eh silare
[09:59] <jaggy> hi
[10:00] <silare> iwobbles: So pressing the keystroke Ctrl+E did nothing for you?
[10:00] <gartral> Nullslash: what kind of system is it?
[10:00] <Nullslash> laptop
[10:00] <Nullslash> gartral, What do you mean with "System" ?
[10:00] <gartral> have you looked at fan settings in the bios?
[10:00] <iwobbles> thats right silare after selecting the package I typed CTRL E from keyboard and nothing happend
[10:01] <gartral> Nullslash: Intel, AMD?
[10:01] <silare> iwobbles: Alternatively, while said package is selected (click on it and make sure whatever colour highlight your GNOME theme uses is highlighting that package), in Synaptic's menu, go into Package --> Force Version.
[10:01] <iwobbles> ok ta silare I will give it a go
[10:01] <silare> iwobbles: Alright. Tell me if it works/goes boom.
[10:02] <Nullslash> gartral , AMD ,my BIOS does not have anything related to this issue , I have only in my BIOS the VT  stuff
[10:02] <iwobbles> silare:  there is no choice of "Force Version" in "Package" in the drop down menu
[10:03] <gartral> Nullslash: wonderful.. ok, one sec
[10:03] <silare> iwobbles: ...o_O What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[10:03] <Nullslash> gartral, thanks a lot ^_^
[10:03] <macgyver_> is there a xorg guru here, I have a ATI card in a Toshiba P200 I have an external 20" monitor connected, so I am using the laptop display and the external display, at this stage I have 2 separate desktops, at first I thought I was running X twice, but I am not, if I open an application on the external display, the application actually opens on the laptop display, and I cannot drag the application from the laptop to the e
[10:03] <macgyver_> xternal display
[10:03] <iwobbles> when I look at properties it says only the version installed is available , Im using 9.04 silare
[10:04] <debo> how can i see if an application is up and running on Ubuntu
[10:04] <macgyver_> I have pasted my hwinfo and xorg hee --> http://www.pastebin.org/6632
[10:04] <macgyver_> hee/here
[10:04] <Nullslash> debo , 'top' or 'ps aux'
[10:04] <tony> having trouble with google earth i get terminal output of: /usr/lib/googleearth/googleearth-bin: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/googleearth/libssl.so.0.9.8: undefined symbol: EVP_idea_cbc
[10:04] <tony> anyone know my problem?
[10:05] <diddy> Does anybody know how .bin images can be mounted ?
[10:05] <diddy> Or better extracted?
[10:05] <iwobbles> ok silare I see the force version choice now but it is greyed out and unchoosable
[10:05] <ps> join elphel
[10:05] <Slart_> diddy: convert them to iso files with bchunk
[10:05] <Nullslash> tony ,did you try to search in your system for libssl.so.0 and put it in your Google earth folder ?
[10:05] <silare> iwobbles: If the only version available is the one installed... You need to add more repositories.
[10:05] <Slart_> !mountiso | diddy
[10:05] <om26er> can any1 tell me of a good advance video player that uses gstreamer
[10:05] <Nullslash> diddy, you need to convert it 1st
[10:05] <Nullslash> to ISO
[10:06] <Slart_> !info bchunk | diddy
[10:06] <tony> Nullslash: would i copy the file or make symbolic link?
[10:06] <silare> iwobbles: Go to Settings --> Repositories and see if there are any unchecked repositories. Realize though that by unchecking some of these repositories you might be installing closed-source software or third-party software that isn't maintained by Ubuntu.
[10:06] <gartral> Nullslash: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-12058.html
[10:06] <Nullslash> tony , Try both
[10:06] <debo> Nullslash: thanks
[10:06] <om26er> !firefox
[10:07] <diddy> Slart_, Nullslash, Thx
[10:07] <kamalnandan> how do we install karmic release on jaunty using chroot?
[10:07] <om26er> a good video player using gstreamer
[10:07] <silare> Hi, I was wondering if anyone here knows of a good GTD app for Linux that is GTK-based. I've found some command-line ones, etc. but I'd very much just like something that looks like a simple To-Do List. I just migrated from a Mac where I was used to using The Hit List, but I'm sure Linux has a suitable equivalent somewhere.
[10:07] <kamalnandan>  any clue??
[10:07] <tony> Nullslash: I found five of them which should i use?
[10:07] <rski> silare: GTD?
[10:07] <macgyver_> no takers?
[10:07] <om26er> !player
[10:07] <Nullslash> Tony , they are all the same
[10:08] <Nullslash> gertral , it's not FAN issue
[10:08] <om26er> !kaffeine
[10:09] <Nullslash> it's cpufreq-selector issue
[10:10] <om26er> so any gstreamer using video player except totem
[10:10] <macgyver_> also I cannot disable ipv6 I dont have this file /etc/modprobe.d/aliases
[10:10] <om26er> ?
[10:10] <tony> Nullslash: thanks dude
[10:10] <macgyver_> !ipv6
[10:10] <Nullslash> tony, did it work ?
[10:10] <tony> yup
[10:10] <Nullslash> ;)
[10:10] <macgyver_> !disable_ipv6
[10:10] <macgyver_> !disable ipv6
[10:10] <ShapeShifter499> I figured it out
[10:10] <ShapeShifter499> bye
[10:10] <macgyver_> !disableipv6
[10:10] <tony> i busted a copy not link tho
[10:11] <macgyver_> I get the hit bot :)
[10:11] <tony> will i have update issuies?
[10:11] <toyimp> lol "I should go back to using windows, at least there when something doesn't work, I don't have the illusion that I can fix it"
[10:11] <diddy> Slart_, Nullslash: So <basename> is the output_file.iso ???
[10:11] <_ruben> ppl suggesting to disable ipv6 to "fix" stuff annoy me ...
[10:11] <Nullslash> diddy , huh?
[10:11] <macgyver_> _ruben, I agree, but this painfully slow internet is killing me
[10:12] <silare> rski: Get Things Done. Something like Remember the Milk, but a desktop app.
[10:12] <Nullslash> macgyver_,when I run Virtualbox , my computer works with speed 800Mhz
[10:12] <diddy> Nullslash, I mean in the utility bchunk
[10:12] <rski> i have no idea what that is... but maybe
[10:12] <macgyver_> I have a a Downstream Rate of 20832 kbps on my internet, yet, google front page takes 15 seconds to load!
[10:12] <rski> silare: tried tomboy?
[10:12] <silare> !gtd
[10:12] <iwobbles> hm all repositories are checked, even 3rd party ones ubottu I would like to say with latest version but it doesnt work on the 3 machines I have
[10:13] <Nullslash> diddy, http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion#bchunk
[10:13] <macgyver_> Nullslash, and its not the net, my windows work laptop is flying
[10:13] <gartral> !hi | iwobbles
[10:13] <silare> rski: I tried, but I just really in essence need something that looks like a giant checklist that has a column for "Due Date" and that I can possibly colourcode (even if I couldn't colourcode I don't care). And preferrably GTK.
[10:13] <_ruben> google being slow is unlikely to be ipv6 related
[10:13] <gartral> !me | iwobbles
[10:14] <diddy> Nullslash, Thx
[10:14] <macgyver_> _ruben, its not just google, its all sites dude
[10:14] <macgyver_> frustrating :(
[10:14] <macgyver_> anyhow, can anyone help with my ATI issue?
[10:14] <Nullslash> macgyver_, maybe something is eating your internet connection ?
[10:15] <macgyver_> no, the work laptop beside me is flying
[10:15] <Nullslash> macgyver_, did you try "lsof -i" ?
[10:15] <silare> iwobbles: Rats. I'd say to go find other repositories like Mint or something that might have Firefox packages in them. That's odd though. I have four different versions for my firefox (I'm using Linux Mint)... One in gloria (Mint's), two in jaunty, one in jaunty-updates.
[10:15] <silare> Did you enable jaunty-updates and jaunty?
[10:15] <macgyver_> Nullslash, bugger all running
[10:15] <Nullslash> macgyver_, kill any unused services
[10:17] <macgyver_> Nullslash, http://www.pastebin.org/6637
[10:17] <eboyjr> Hello. I think the new update for Firefox 3.0 is broken.
[10:17] <eboyjr> I can't get it to start
[10:17] <eboyjr> I get "Bus error"
[10:18] <Nullslash> macgyver_, how is your network ?
[10:18] <macgyver_> Nullslash, Wireless, 1 x iMAC, 2 x PC, 1 x Linux Lappy
[10:19] <macgyver_> Nullslash, only thing on now is lappy and 1 PC
[10:19] <Nullslash> macgyver_, OK great, that mean you are connecting via wireless , Am I right ?
[10:19] <iwobbles> yeah silare I love the operating sytem everything seems to run faster and better even  the multimedia applications but this bug has got me snookered, I have a copy of Mint but it wont load on any machines I have, and it from Mint I dint burn it myself
[10:19] <macgyver_> Nullslash, correct
[10:20] <|kosh|> are there better intel graphics drivers to install on ubuntu 9?
[10:20] <tony> Nullslash: everytime i open a new KML/KMZ in google earth through firefox it opens a new seperate google earth and it will not save my new KMx
[10:20] <|kosh|> these wont run compiz
[10:20] <Nullslash> macgyver_, are you sure you are using the right drivers with the right speed ?
[10:20] <macgyver_> and the work PC is on the same link, and visiting the same sites in firefox in windows is 5x faster than on here
[10:20] <silare> iwobbles: o_O Weird. So the Mint disc you have phailed? You sure you aren't trying to run the x64 one on computers that aren't 32-bit, right? (And on another note, this problem is on Ubuntu however, right?)
[10:20] <macgyver_> Nullslash, I cannot be 100% certain of that
[10:21] <Nullslash> macgyver_,?
[10:21] <tony> everytime i open a new KML/KMZ in google earth through firefox it opens a new seperate google earth and it will not save my new KMx
[10:21] <macgyver_> Nullslash, I cannot be 100% certain on the wifi drivers, I know in Ubuntu it works
[10:22] <macgyver_> I did not install any specific drivers for it
[10:22] <Nullslash> macgyver_, test your ethernet 1st
[10:22] <macgyver_> but all hardware is working
[10:22] <macgyver_> ethernet is the same speed if I plug direct into the modem
[10:22] <macgyver_> I did think of that part
[10:23] <iwobbles> yes silare Im not sure what version i on the disk from Mint,, its says its Mint6 based on ubuntu 8.10 but has no bus width stats on it
[10:23] <silare> iwobbles: That's... screwy. o_O
[10:23] <silare> iwobbles: Hmm... Well, Mint 7 is out.
[10:23] <Nullslash> macgyver_, same speed of what ?
[10:24] <iwobbles> mm I can crash anything they tell me at work lol :)
[10:24] <macgyver_> Nullslash, dmesg reports --> [   15.000971] iwlagn: Intel(R) Wireless WiFi Link AGN driver for Linux, 1.3.27ks
[10:24] <b3rz3rk3r> good day everyone
[10:24] <donkeyboy> has anyone got a nvidia geforce 9500gt working on 9.04 correctly? I have search everywhere and no joy :-( http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1185556 (pretty recent post and they had no joy)
[10:24] <silare> iwobbles: Did you buy your CD or ask for a free one?
[10:24] <b3rz3rk3r> how we all doing in here?
[10:24] <iwobbles> its a free one silare from a magazine
[10:24] <macgyver_> Nullslash, eth0 and wlan0 both produce the same speed downloading pages
[10:24] <Besogon> macgyver_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[10:24] <iwobbles> I got the ubuntu 9.04 from Ubuntu
[10:24] <tony> donkeyboy: try downloading envy from synaptic
[10:24] <macgyver_> I have clicked the link
[10:25] <silare> iwobbles: Ahh... I suggest downloading the ISO yourself from Mint and then burning it yourself. The download and burn thing is rather stable anyway. And with the Ubuntu one... Is that from UBuntu's site or did they send you it?
[10:25] <macgyver_> still wating
[10:25] <macgyver_> loaded now
[10:25] <iwobbles> they sent it to me as a CD eh silare
[10:25] <vladimirboyd> hello
[10:25] <macgyver_> its strange, its like the "lookup" is slow, not the retreival
[10:25] <b3rz3rk3r> macgyver_, change your dns server
[10:26] <Nullslash> macgyver_, how is your DNS server ?
[10:26] <^cheeky> hi can any one help with a conky setting .. i cant seem to get my upload and download speeds to read anything nor can i see my weather reading even thought i configured the weather scripts ..
[10:26] <donkeyboy> tony: ok, will give that a try
[10:26] <b3rz3rk3r> macgyver_, you could try Open DNS, they are popular, and free
[10:26] <iwobbles> whats an application I can use to burn a mint image with silare ? Im not sure I have any on the linux boxes yet,,
[10:26] <silare> iwobbles: Oh, okay. Can you not burn CDs or something? (Be it lack of blank CDs, the woes of being a penniless college student, or just a lack of a CD-writable drive?)
[10:27] <macgyver_> b3rz3rk3r, Nullslash I would like to try opendns actually
[10:27] <vladimirboyd> having just updated to 2.6.28-15 kernel, my resolution was wiped and would not go back to normal. re-installing NVIDIA driver does not work. does that mean driver is not compatible with kernel?
[10:27] <grawity> b3rz3rk3r: But you have to spend 10 minutes registering and disabling all the OpenDNS crap.
[10:27] <silare> iwobbles: Um. Go on Synaptic and search for the package brasero.
[10:27] <^cheeky> sorry my conky.rc file : http://pastie.org/572252
[10:27] <Nullslash> macgyver_,  cat /etc/resolv.conf
[10:27] <b3rz3rk3r> grawity, 10 minutes is hardly a lifetime :p
[10:27] <iwobbles> lol not peniless just linux-dumb lol,, ok brasero ok will get that and then Mint lol,,,
[10:27] <macgyver_> you guys rock
[10:28] <macgyver_> I just see the issue now
[10:28] <macgyver_> it for some reason has the work DNS servers
[10:28] <grawity> b3rz3rk3r: At least it has the advantage of being free. (There are other public DNS services, but they aren't that known)
[10:28] <b3rz3rk3r> macgyver_, anytime man, just remember to come back and help out others ;)
[10:28] <frank_b> I'm using jaunty and I've just installed a more recent version of amule (from karmic) and all it's depencies (also from karmic). now nicotine (another P2P program) doesn't run. I'm thinking of upgrading all my system to karmic to try to solve the problem. anyone here recommends otherwise?
[10:29] <silare> iwobbles: Brasero Disc Burner is a good choice and I've found it reliable. Oh, really? Nah... You'll be fine. xD We were all Linux-dumb at some point. But yeah, download the .iso file from Mint (Main edition if you're 32-bit and x64 edition if you're 64-bit), open it in Brasero, and let it burn. When it's done, you'll have a Linux CD. It'll work and it'll be awesome. =]
[10:29] <macgyver_> b3rz3rk3r, I actually never leave :)
[10:29] <b3rz3rk3r> grawity, true true
[10:29] <b3rz3rk3r> macgyver_, lol.. thats the spirit
[10:29] <Nullslash> macgyver_, DNS issue ?
[10:29] <macgyver_> Nullslash, correct
[10:29] <frank_b> anyone here recommends against upgrading to karmic now?
[10:29] <macgyver_> my fault actually
[10:29] <donkeyboy> tony: The package it says I need to install is the one I already have installed :-(
[10:29] <vladimirboyd> not only this new kernel messed up my desktop, it had also brought trouble to my Kubuntu. so is the kernel update flawed?
[10:29] <macgyver_> I added the dns @ work when I was doing the wireless survey
[10:30] <b3rz3rk3r> frank_b, yeah, id hold off its you have a production machine you are thinking about upgrading
[10:30] <Nullslash> macgyver_, ok install named on your laptop and host your own DNS server , it will be rocket
[10:30] <macgyver_> looks like again you were right
[10:30] <tony> donkeyboy: can you reinstall it?
[10:30] <tony> doh
[10:30] <macgyver_> not an ipv6 issue :)
[10:30] <frank_b> b3rz3rk3r, ok, thank you for your advice
[10:30] <iwobbles> thanks silare will try that, brasero now installed and am off to get mint,, Ill get both versions and give em a go eh
[10:30] <macgyver_> now, if I can just get my darn screens to work I will exstatic!
[10:31] <tony> anyone know why when i download a new KML for google it opens a NEW google window  and can't save my places when i try to close?
[10:31] <Nullslash> tony, maybe it's read only ?
[10:31] <silare> iwobbles: No problem. ^_^ Just pop in the blank CDs, download the .iso files, right-click the .iso files and open them in Brasero, wait a bit while they burn, and you'll have your CDs in no time. at that point, procedure is the same as the other CDs you got from Ubuntu/magazines. Pop it in and boot into it. ^_^
[10:32] <tony> Nullslash: i started it thru terminal with sudo
[10:32] <Nullslash> try to google it in Google earth group, you will find your answer there
[10:33] <iwobbles> okie sta silare they have a universal version and  -7 iso and a -7 x64iso I will get em all and give em a try
[10:33] <Besogon> macgyver_: sorry that link was wrong because the ipv6 functionality is built-in the kernel, you need to use sysctl to adjust various ipv6 kernel parameters.
[10:33] <iwobbles> thank the gods for broadband lol
[10:34] <macgyver_> Besogon, its ok its sorted, turned out to be DNS
[10:34] <tony> Nullslash: googleearth.bin is rwxr-xr-x
[10:34] <macgyver_> Nullslash, --> root@MacOps:~# apt-get install named --> E: Couldn't find package named
[10:35] <macgyver_> I didnt expect that!
[10:35] <tony> Nullslash: does that sound right?
[10:35] <silare> iwobbles: Okay. If you want, here's the breakdown: The Universal edition is the strict open-source edition (if it isn't free and open-source, we aren't including it [although you can install the closed-source stuff later on your own too]). The 7 version is the normal version for 32-bit computers. The x64 version is the normal version for 64-bit computers.
[10:35]  * macgyver_ is 2 years behind the Linux 8 ball, its been a while
[10:35] <Nullslash> macgyver_, root@ahmed:~# apt-get install bind9
[10:35] <macgyver_> Nullslash, cheers :)
[10:36] <Kyotoweb> H
[10:36] <Nullslash> tony , IDK
[10:36] <Kyotoweb> Hi
[10:36] <Kyotoweb> I try to add a &raquo; before each wp_list_archives entries
[10:36] <Kyotoweb> So I do :
[10:36] <Kyotoweb> <?php echo preg_replace('@\<a([^>]*)>(.*?)\<\/a>@i', '<span class="brown">&raquo;</span> <a$1>$2</a>', wp_get_archives('type=monthly')); ?>
[10:36] <iwobbles> okies silare I will try that version 7 first thanks :)
[10:36] <silare> iwobbles: No problem. Have fun and good luck. =]
[10:37] <Kyotoweb> but it doesn't work :/ it shows me the archives list without the &raquo;
[10:37] <Nullslash> kyotoweb, check #PHP
[10:37] <iwobbles> yep ciao,, off now Balzac calls
[10:37] <Kyotoweb> overflowed ^^
[10:37] <Nullslash> kyotoweb, check #wordpress I mean :/
[10:37] <tony> Nullslash: thanks but google earth group help sucks pretty hard
[10:37] <silare> Hi, I was wondering if anyone here knows of a good GTD app for Linux that is GTK-based. I've found some command-line ones, etc. but I'd very much just like something that looks like a simple To-Do List. I just migrated from a Mac where I was used to using The Hit List, but I'm sure Linux has a suitable equivalent somewhere.
[10:38] <Nullslash> tony , I found the SSL answer 1 year ago there
[10:38] <tony> hmm
[10:38] <Kyotoweb> ah yeah, i'm in ubuntu
[10:38] <Kyotoweb> sorry xD
[10:38] <Nullslash> silare , Evolution Mail
[10:39] <debo> Hi I am installing  TurboGears==1.0.8
[10:39] <debo>  and had this error: The required version of setuptools (>=0.6c9) is not available, and
[10:39] <debo> can't be installed while this script is running. Please install
[10:39] <debo>  a more recent version first, using 'easy_install -U setuptools'.
[10:39] <debo> , What is the problem?
[10:39] <FloodBot1> debo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:39] <jrib> debo: why aren't you using the repositories?
[10:39] <silare> Nullslash: Evolution? I'll try it out. I use it for e-mail a lot, but if it's just as good a GTD I'll play with it. Thankies. =]
[10:39] <jrib> !info python-turbogears | debo
[10:40] <macgyver_> Nullslash, bind9 installed and working :)
[10:40] <silare> !brasero
[10:40] <Besogon> macgyver_: net.ipv6.conf.default.disable_ipv6=0 by default we need to swich it to 1
[10:40] <macgyver_> at least I remember something
[10:41] <macgyver_> Besogon, its sorted out mate, thx
[10:41] <sagaci> hey guys, I'm using ubuntu at the moment and on my second pc at home, it's only on a dialup connection and so far i've not been able to configure the winmodem to work with it. could any of you suggest an external modem and tell me roughly how much it would cost to buy (in australia)
[10:41] <Nullslash> macgyver_ , Try "dig @127.0.0.1 google.com"
[10:41] <Nullslash> :@
[10:41] <Nullslash> WTF?!
[10:41] <jrib> !dialup > sagaci
[10:42] <macgyver_> Nullslash, yep, all good mate
[10:42] <Nullslash> so edit your network manger
[10:42] <macgyver_> Nullslash, yep done, DNS is now set to 127.0.0.1
[10:43] <b3rz3rk3r> macgyver_, thats gonna fly now :)
[10:43] <macgyver_> :) 'tis :)
[10:43] <macgyver_> ok. now for the next issue (copy paste coming)
[10:43] <macgyver_> I have a ATI card in a Toshiba P200 I have an external 20" monitor connected, so I am using the laptop display and the external display, at this stage I have 2 separate desktops, at first I thought I was running X twice, but I am not, if I open an application on the external display, the application actually opens on the laptop display, and I cannot drag the application from the laptop to the external display
[10:43] <debo> jrib: Being a novice, I am following a proceudre! how to do it with repositories?
[10:43] <jrib> !software > debo
[10:43] <macgyver_> what I want is the external display as an extension
[10:44] <jrib> debo: just open up Synaptic in your Administration menu.  Then install the python-turbogears package
[10:44] <justin007> am having a strange problem on Ubuntu hardy and snort with -Q.  snort version is 2.7.0
[10:44] <debo> ubottu: i didn't understand
[10:44] <jrib> debo: ubottu sent you more detailed information in a private message
[10:44] <justin007> snort with -Q does not throw up any errors allthought its not compile with --enable-inline option.
[10:46] <Nullslash> macgyver_ , Did you try to use your ATI tools ?
[10:46] <macgyver_> Nullslash, yea, no joy
[10:46] <macgyver_> Nullslash, --> http://www.pastebin.org/6632
[10:46] <debo> jrib: sorry, but where could i fond ubottu private message?
[10:47] <Besogon> macgyver_: learn xrandr for resolving dispay problem
[10:48] <silare> Does anyone know of any good GTK software that will arrange music note-by-note (as opposed to me feeding in recordings, etc. - but something where I choose an instrument and put in notes on a staff)?
[10:48] <Nullslash> macgyver_ ,gnome-display-properties ?
[10:48] <b3rz3rk3r> debo, it will be in a new window, you will see ubottu's nick under the server name, just click it
[10:48] <jrib> debo: there should be another tab in xchat from ubottu
[10:48] <tony> anyone know why when i download a new KML for google it opens a NEW google window  and can't save my places when i try to close?
[10:48] <tony> oops sry
[10:48] <macgyver_> Nullslash, has only 1 screen in it
[10:49] <debo> jrib: I see. thanks
[10:50] <jussi01> !info mscore | silare
[10:50] <Nullslash> macgyver_ ,http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxAndDualMonitors.html
[10:51] <ubuntistas> how can i install kde 4.3 without touching ubuntu?
[10:51] <Nullslash> ubuntistas,http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=2&url=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FVoodoo&ei=NFZ5SsGOD8OHtgfO_NyWCQ&rct=j&q=voodoo&usg=AFQjCNF-aPoXIZ0hDRu3tA64wLO7qOBpgg
[10:52] <polter> hey people, I was wondering, it it's possible, how do I fake which version of Ubuntu I got? Got an application I want to trick into thinking I'm running jaunty
[10:52] <leaf-sheep> When you boot up in text mode, you see scrolling of starting services and such.  Where can I view logs? Useful for [OK] or [fail].
[10:52] <daem_> out of curiouisity, how much patience should i leave to a flashing steady cursor once i try to boot, to a system that was previously booting proper, and the szame things seem to be happening to me when i boot form a usb proper installdri nve??
[10:53] <napster_123> hey i'm not able to see unicode characters throughout my system... neither on terminal not even in java IDE's
[10:53] <daem_> or is there anything maic i might be able to do within the grub command line i don't know
[10:53] <napster_123> is there anything i'm missing or what ?
[10:53] <daem_> and there is plent i don't know
[10:53] <daem_> it's a steady flahs
[10:54] <daem_> not rapid
[10:54] <daem_> maybe once every .30 second
[10:54] <macgyver_> Nullslash, small issues there, on the ATI site there is no driver for the Radeon Mobility HD 2600 Series
[10:54] <Nullslash> :D
[10:54] <macgyver_> there is a Radeon Mobility  or a Radeon HD 2600 Series
[10:54] <Nullslash> ok
[10:54] <Nullslash> try both ?
[10:54] <daem_> should i YEYE
[10:54] <daem_> yey
[10:54] <Nullslash> of them ?
[10:54] <macgyver_> as this is a laptop I assume it needs the mobility driver?
[10:55] <daem_> NM
[10:55] <napster_123> unicode anyone ?
[10:55] <daem_> patience seems to have servwed me well
[10:55] <L-DEL> !ru
[10:55] <daem_> but wth was it doin?
[10:55] <daem_> oh dear
[10:56] <silare> jussi01: thanks.
[10:56] <ubuntistas> how can i install kde 4.3 without touching ubuntu?
[10:56] <daem_> now i have eeebuntu loaded..  2.6.28-11generic #42 (good number)   but....    command line straiight
[10:56] <daem_> scarey
[10:56] <debo> Using the Synaptic Manager I installed TurboGears 1.0.4.3. However, I need to upgrade to TurboGears 1.0.8 (mentioned in the procedure i am following). How could i do upgrade it
[10:56] <jussi01> silare: does that suit your needs?
[10:56] <daem_> help?
[10:56] <daem_> help asking help?
[10:56] <Scarey> daem_, ?
[10:56] <daem_> i have eebuntu@eeebuntu:^$
[10:56] <silare> jussi01: It appears to. I'm going ot install and play with it though. Thanks a lot for the help though.
[10:57] <ubuntistas> how can i install kde 4.3 without touching ubuntu?
[10:57] <daem_> *shivers*
[10:57] <b3rz3rk3r> debo, sudo apt-get update
[10:57] <polter> daem_, if you want the graphical interface, you could try "startx"
[10:57] <daem_> oooooooooooooooooo
[10:57] <daem_> sexy
[10:58] <daem_> and purty noisees too
[10:58] <polter> daem_, did that do the trick for you?
[10:58] <jrib> debo: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[10:58] <daem_> for now i think polter
[10:58] <daem_> thanaks mang
[10:58] <polter> daem_, no probs.
[10:58] <daem_> but i may still have some questions
[10:58] <debo> ubuntu server 8.04
[10:58] <daem_> i am trying to get her running straight with no wireless problems this time, so i am reinstalling
[10:58] <macgyver_> how do I disable randr? http://www.pastebin.org/6657
[10:59] <debo> jrib: I don't want to upgrade the ubuntu for the time being
[10:59] <daem_> wahts randr?????
[10:59] <Faust|Avalon> from someone ubuntu fallen so then you can not do login on all acaunts (after entering the password does this by removing the request back to the user)? logs http://paste.org.ru/?n7q4st
[11:00] <ubuntistas> how can i install kde 4.3 without touching ubuntu?
[11:00] <ubuntistas> any repos?
[11:00] <richardcavell> ubuntistas: you can isntall kde
[11:01] <richardcavell> ubuntistas: You may install KDE without harming anything
[11:01] <curtis_> ubuntistas: You partition the hard drive and install kde in the second partition, or the third given that ubuntu has two
[11:01] <ubuntistas> curtis how can i do that
[11:01] <ubuntistas> ?
[11:02] <jrib> debo: then you'll have to install it manually without using the repositories.  I'd recommend you look into using virtualenv
[11:02] <Roland> how do i select a driver for a usb device?
[11:02] <polter> ubuntistas, what you you mean when you say you don't want to touch Ubuntu?
[11:02] <daem_> staaaaartx was nice though...  dropping back into the original install, trying to be patient with her load this time, then maybe can learn to adress ya'll with a few issues i have had with etherosdriversd, load/unload of madwifi did the trik, then i updated and rebroke
[11:02] <richardcavell> ubuntistas: Sorry, I'm confused.  KDE is a window manager that does the same function as GNOME.  GNOME is the default Ubuntu environment.  There is a KDE version of Ubuntu called Kubuntu.  You can also just install KDE onto a normal GNOME Ubuntu and use KDE instead
[11:02] <curtis_> ubuntistas open up System>>Administration>>Partition Editor
[11:02] <ubuntistas> polter without harming it?
[11:02] <debo> virtualenv?
[11:02] <Besogon> macgyver_: You shoud use XRANDR for that kind of operations
[11:02] <curtis_> Create a new volume by shrinking the ubuntu partition, and then when you insert the live CD, choose to install it in the second partition
[11:03] <polter> ubuntistas, you can install the "kde" package and switch on login
[11:03] <daem_> any suggestions on how to address ya'll proper would be appreciated too, i know I be, like, short bus material;
[11:03] <curtis_> on second though polters idea sounds like a much smarter dea
[11:03] <curtis_> *idea
[11:04] <curtis_> daem_: Just state your entire question in one full line and that wll do it
[11:04] <jrib> debo: http://pypi.python.org/pypi/virtualenv
[11:04] <daem_> kk curtis_  will try my best
[11:05] <Besogon> macgyver_: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Xorg_RandR_1.2
[11:06] <Faust|Avalon> 		
[11:06] <macgyver_> brb, restart x
[11:06] <ubuntistas> polter can i install the latest one 4.3?
[11:06] <ubuntistas> any repos?
[11:06] <Faust|Avalon> 	What about my question? somebody can help me?
[11:07] <donkeyboy> I am running 9.04 have product: 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller  vendor: Intel Corporation sound card but when i run aplay -l aplay: device_list:217: no soundcards found...
[11:07] <jrib> !helpme | Faust|Avalon
[11:07] <donkeyboy> Can anyone help? Just can't get sound to work :-(
[11:07] <^cheeky> umm i deleted my bottom , thing i dunno what its called .. i installed AWN now when i open firefox .. and minimze it ,. it does not go to awn  navigation bar it goes somewhere and i can find it again :S can any one give me a suggestions please
[11:07] <jrib> !sound > donkeyboy
[11:07] <polter> ubuntistas, no idea really. have you checked kde.org for their recommendations?
[11:07] <jrib> donkeyboy: no idea if that's helpful or not but check it out
[11:07] <silare> !sound
[11:08] <jrib> ^cheeky: right click -> add to panel -> window list
[11:08] <polter> ubuntistas, here you go http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.3
[11:08] <silare> !debian
[11:08] <polter> there's a repo for you
[11:09] <donkeyboy> jrib: thanks, but there are no drivers there so I can't choose alsa :-( just null
[11:09] <jrib> donkeyboy: I meant ubottu's links
[11:10] <donkeyboy> jrib: I am looking at that page now, thanks
[11:10] <^cheeky> jrib, err how do i get it to the bottom .. is there something i need to do in AWM so that when i open other application it will open in my Awn navigation bar ?
[11:10] <koolhead1> hey all
[11:11] <jrib> ^cheeky: I have no idea how awn works
[11:11] <^cheeky> jrib, thank you
[11:11] <koolhead1> i got my friends eee1005HA with me
[11:12] <koolhead1> which ubuntu kernel i should put in it
[11:12] <koolhead1> ?
[11:14] <Janhouse> koolhead1, latest?
[11:14] <Janhouse> :D
[11:14] <daem_> hmmmmm, ok...  seems for the time being i have gotten things a workin, through a friend of mine modifying what it is that grub could boot, though i do not think that is a permanent solution.  I have problems with the wireless on this Acer Aspire One AOA, seems if i load then unload the madwifi drivers, she'll give me wifi acess, which leaves me with many a grub file.  Firiend of mine deleted all those extra grubs, and now it boots right
[11:14] <daem_> into the one that still has wifi, but soon as my roomie updates, he'll find himself wifiless, i fear, and that would be bad
[11:14] <daem_> grrrr
[11:14] <ubuntistas> polter can u help me with the gpgh key how can i import it?
[11:14] <daem_> that's already two lines
[11:14] <Lando-SpacePimp> Hello there!
[11:14] <daem_> *hides till he can reword*
[11:14] <polter> ubuntistas, sure, hold on
[11:14] <daem_> hi hi
[11:15] <koolhead1> Janhouse: :)
[11:15] <Lando-SpacePimp> TWITTER TRACKER TWITTER TRACKER TWITTER TRACKER TWITTER TRACKER!
[11:15] <Janhouse> ubuntistas, try google
[11:15] <daem_> got ya, word it in 160 or less
[11:15] <ikonia> Lando-SpacePimp: ?
[11:16] <Janhouse> ubuntistas, searh for pgp key
[11:16] <Janhouse> and add the particular key
[11:16] <Lando-SpacePimp> Janhouse: Conan O'Brien!
[11:16] <polter> ubuntistas, sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 8AC93F7A
[11:16] <ikonia> Lando-SpacePimp: what's all that about ? please keep in mind this is #ubuntu - a support channel for ubuntu Linux distribtuon ONLY
[11:16] <polter> and that should be it, just do an apt-get update after that
[11:16] <Lando-SpacePimp> ikonia: That's BORING
[11:16] <ikonia> Lando-SpacePimp: then this is not the best channel for you
[11:16] <Janhouse> polter, but ubuntu keyserver doesn't have all keys. right?
[11:17] <polter> Janhouse, I don't know about that.. but if there's a link to the key on launchpad, it seems to work
[11:17] <oldude67> Lando-SpacePimp, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:17] <Lando-SpacePimp> Oh cool!
[11:17] <Janhouse> :d
[11:19] <daem_> ``ok, this is embaressing, whats the name of that fairly grand desktop girl webby site that gives all from icontainers to desktops to you name it, on a daily if not weekly basis?
[11:19] <daem_> nm
[11:19] <daem_> they change it to pixel girl?
[11:19] <daem_> presents?
[11:19] <daem_> eeeo
[11:19] <ubuntistas> polter can i install it now? without harming ubuntu?
[11:20] <polter> ubuntistas, you should be able to do that, but since it's not in the official repos, I won't give any guarantees.
[11:20] <polter> just do a dryrun first to see what would happen on install
[11:20] <daem_> ignore me, i need to get sober before i can ask questions
[11:21] <ubuntistas> polter which is the official repo? and how can i do a dry run? what's that?
[11:21] <hanasaki> is there a way to get firefox 3.0 out and only have 3.5 on jaunty?  removing it seems to break a few packages and keeping it there is no way to get thunderbird to open links in 3.5
[11:21] <silare> Does anyone here use a STAC92xx audio driver? I realized I can't get input to work. Output works fine, although input is practically not there, which I'd like to have for the sake of Skype, etfc.
[11:21] <polter> ubuntistas, if you use "apt-get install kde" you can add "--simulate" at the end of the command to see what would get removed/installed/upgrade without doing the install
[11:22] <leaf-sheep> hanasaki: Be patient.  Firefox-3.5 will be official in Karmic. You could always change the firefox symlink.
[11:22] <hanasaki> silare:  I just use a cheap $20 usb cam that has a mic too
[11:22] <Lelouch> good afternoon everyone
[11:22] <hanasaki> thanks leaf-sheep
[11:22] <Lelouch> can anyone please help me with a little problem in ubuntu?
[11:22] <polter> anyone else running Karmic and missing Google search capabilites in the search box of Firefox-3.5?
[11:22] <leaf-sheep> hanasaki: It's in /usr/bin/firefox* if you want to know.
[11:23] <hanasaki> thank you
[11:23] <silare> hanasaki: Okay. Thanks. I'll just go hunt one down then, I guess. I'll need it since I'll be recording some people soon for some interviewing.
[11:23] <iceroot> !ask | Lelouch
[11:24] <Lelouch> oh sorry about that, i'll shoot then
[11:24] <hanasaki> silare:  cool deal.. I got mine at a store in the usa called microcenter
[11:24] <polter> ubuntistas, have you tried opening up "software sources" in "System->Administration" and enabling "backports"?
[11:24] <hanasaki> silare:  what is the job?
[11:24] <iceroot> polter: #ubuntu+1
[11:24] <silare> hanasaki: Microcenter... I don't see it around here. The job? I'm not doing it for an actual job. It's for a hobby. I'm writing a set of things for some people.
[11:25] <ubuntistas> why polter?
[11:25] <Lelouch> i'm running internet through an evdo usb device, but it isn't working in ubuntu 9.4 (or which ever is the latest one there, just downloaded it last night), is there a way for it?
[11:25] <lusepuster_> Hi channel - after recent upgrades, I have experienced problems playing flash videos from Youtube, Vimeo etc. They open, but the "Loading" symbol just goes on for ever, the actual videos do not  show. In youtube, the hover menu  with related clips etc does show, but not the video itself. I tried googling but cannot find anything. Is this a known issue?
[11:25] <hanasaki> silare:  ah...
[11:25] <polter> ubuntistas, I'm just wondering if you have checked that repo for the new KDE packages
[11:26] <daem_> heres a good one, logitech orbit af.  Any way to get that fully running in ubuntu?  Or eveen maybe through wine?  At least giving it the capacity to shoot multi-picked mega-pixel sized pics?
[11:26] <ubuntistas> where is backport?
[11:26] <ubuntistas> polter
[11:26] <iceroot> lusepuster_: hd videos? try clicking hd, then they will load. same here, normal windows dont start if there is a hd-version
[11:26] <iceroot> !backport | ubuntistas
[11:27] <lusepuster_> iceroot, just to make sure I understand you right: if there is a hd version, the normal version will not load for you, but the HD version loads fine?
[11:27] <macgyver_> ok, getting there, ATI drivers loaded, I get 2 screens (big desktop) now
[11:27] <Lelouch> !help
[11:27] <iceroot> lusepuster_: yes
[11:27] <lusepuster_> iceroot, thanks, I'll try that
[11:28] <macgyver_> but I can only drag a app 1/2 onto the other screen, I cant actually get it all the way, its like it gets S'stuck"
[11:28] <Mrokii> hello all. I am an Ubuntu-newbie (coming from Mac). I have connected an old Apple Extended Keyboard to the pc I have Ubuntu on, but some special-keys, like the at-symbol aren't available with the key-combination that is shown in the keyboard-layout-window
[11:28] <macgyver_> has anyone had that issue before>
[11:28] <oldude67> Lelouch, are you running jaunty or karmic?
[11:28] <polter> Mrokii, there are some Apple layouts in keyboard preferences
[11:28] <iceroot> Mrokii: system-settings-keyboard  for changing the layout
[11:28] <macgyver_> I also have an odd entry in xorg.conf now --> Option      "���        " "DDX"
[11:29] <macgyver_> I have NO idea what thats all about
[11:29] <ech0s7> hi
[11:29] <ech0s7> In gnome session, I can set the LCD brightness and it works well. But in the gdm login screen, I couldn't find the way to control it. The problem is that, the gdm always turn the LCD to the highest brightness level. only after login to gnome desktop, it tune to the brightness I set, how can i do?
[11:30] <polter> macgyver_, Device Dependent X
[11:30] <Lelouch> oldude67: i have no clue if it is related to system firmware or something similiar to that, and if you are asking about the evdo modem i'm using, then my answer is no, i'm using AnyDATA ADU-510A
[11:30] <macgyver_> polter, but what are the 3 ??? that have been added?
[11:30] <macgyver_> Option      "���        " "DDX"
[11:30] <macgyver_> that is the exact line in the device section
[11:30] <Mrokii> polter, Iceroot: The thing is: I also have connected a later Apple-keyboard (one of those white plastic ones) and there I can hit alt-l for the at-symbol and it works. It just doesn't work on the Apple extended Keyboard
[11:31] <Roland> insmod: can't read 'usb-serial.o': No such file or directory,    Wher do I  get this usb-serial.o ?
[11:31] <Mrokii> that old keyboard is an adb-one and connected via a special adaptor. It worked without problems on the iMac I used before, btw.
[11:31] <macgyver_> Mrokii, I havre the same keyboard here
[11:31] <daem_> Webcam, http://alturl.com/9gbf , any way to get that fully operational under jaunty?
[11:31] <Mrokii> macgyver_, which layout did you choose?
[11:31] <viki27> Hello can someone recommend me on good audio editior software such cool edit for ubuntu ?
[11:32] <macgyver_> 105
[11:32] <silare> Hey all, I keep getting a gray box at times in Linux when I go watch Youtube videos or watch any Flash. It's just a dead gray box. Is there anything I can do aside from restart the browser? It's rather bothersome to keep restarting Firefox. =[
[11:32] <Roland> silare, you're using 64bit flash?
[11:32] <silare> roland: I'm not sure if I'm using nspluginwrapper or natively 64-bit Flash. IS there a way I could check?
[11:33] <silare> *Roland: I'm not sure if I'm using nspluginwrapper or natively 64-bit Flash. IS there a way I could check?
[11:33] <macgyver_> but I can only drag a app 1/2 onto the other screen, I cant actually get it all the way, its like it gets "stuck" and cant quite make it
[11:33] <FPS_Wes> hello
[11:33] <Mrokii> macgyver_, 105?
[11:33] <deany> silare, did you use apt to install flash?
[11:33] <iceroot> can i run 32bit ubuntu with vbox on a 64bit system?
[11:33] <debo> I have used tg-admin info to see if the Turogears is properly installed and it seems not. I used: sudo easy_install TurboGears==1.0.8. Any clue?
[11:34] <macgyver_> Mrokii, it was generic 105 keyboard
[11:34] <silare> deany: well, I'm running Mint. But it came with Flash installed by default.
[11:34] <Mrokii> I don't see any option like that in the keyboard-layout-prefs
[11:34] <macgyver_> my xorg.conf also does not have any entries for keyboard
[11:34] <deany> silare, ah..  odds are its wrapper.  there is a native (beta) flash plugin
[11:34] <iceroot> better: can i run 32bit ubuntu in vbox, on a 64bit ubuntu system which is running that vbox?
[11:34] <silare> deany: How would I obtain the native beta plugin?
[11:34] <Lelouch> oldude67: actually, there is a way mentioned on a site, but i can't get through some of the steps in it, i'm using ubuntu for the first time and dunno about many things, this is the link --> http://www.draisberghof.de/usb_modeswitch/
[11:35] <Roland> silare, adobe website
[11:35] <macgyver_> brb rebooting again
[11:36] <oldude67> Lelouch, be patient im doing some upgrading and my pc is being a little slow.
[11:36] <silare> Roland: alrighty. I'll try looking right now. Thankies.
[11:36] <Mrokii> oops, I think I just found it!
[11:36] <viki27> Hello can someone recommend me on good audio editior software such cool edit for ubuntu ?
[11:37] <Mrokii> I chose "any alt key" to "chose 3rd level" in the keyboard-options, and now I can type @ :)
[11:37] <lusepuster_> iceroot, the flash video issue doesn't seem to be related to HD or not. It's all of them, if my quick survey just now is  worth anything
[11:37] <deany> silare, http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplayer10/libflashplayer-10.0.32.18.linux-x86_64.so.tar.gz
[11:38] <silare> deany: Alright. File downloaded. What should I do with the .so file?
[11:38] <deany> silare, uninstall the old one
[11:38] <Lelouch> oldude67: alrighty :)
[11:38] <deany> silare, put it in plugins dir
[11:39] <silare> deany: sudo apt-get remove flashplugin-installer and all that?
[11:39] <deany> ~/.mozilla/plugsin (?)
[11:39] <deany> silare, ye
[11:39] <deany> try FF with flash site to confirm it
[11:39] <oldude67> lelouch, seeings how that you are  new to ubuntu, do you know how to open a terminal?
[11:39] <deany> silare, (the removal that is)
[11:39] <L-DEL> !ur
[11:40] <L-DEL> !ru
[11:40] <silare> deany: Okay. I'll try that.
[11:40] <Lelouch> oldude67: yes i do
[11:40] <oldude67> Lelouch, in terminal type in lsusb and see if you can see the device
[11:41] <Lelouch> ok, i'll have to restart the pc for it
[11:41] <Lelouch> beb
[11:41] <Lelouch> brb*
[11:43] <Roland> How to create usb-serial.o module?
[11:44] <silare> deany and Roland: W00t. It works. ^_^ Thank you so much.
[11:45] <erUSUL> Roland: this one --> /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel/drivers/usb/serial/usbserial.ko
[11:45] <FPS_Wes> Is there anyway to install ubuntu on an IBM i Series 1200? I have tried normal install, safe graphic install and install with the following boot options: vga=792 acpi=force irqpoll   however it just doesn't work :(
[11:45] <elTigre> jezdez: thanks
[11:46] <jussi01> Is there a shortcut key for the system monitor in ubuntu? (ie. like ctrl+esc in kubuntu)
[11:47] <hanasaki> something has xorg taking 97% of the cpu   how can I find what in xorg is killing the cpu?
[11:47] <protocol1> could someone help me with an ubuntu netbook remix issue?
[11:48] <jussi01> !ask | protocol1
[11:49] <protocol1> my mouse is offset in ubuntu netbook remix and I am wonding if there is a way to fix this?
[11:49] <Roland> erUSUL, how to unload a module, which is in use?
[11:50] <erUSUL> Roland: sudo modprobe -r modulename
[11:50] <jussi01> protocol1: what do you mean by "offset"?
[11:50] <erUSUL> Roland: or check lsmod and rmmod the modules that depends on usbserial...
[11:51] <morris1> just updated now my firefox doesnt start anymore
[11:51] <protocol1> like for example I when I try to click on an icon... I can't click directly on it.... I have to move like three inches to the right to click on it
[11:51] <morris1> any way i can fix that?
[11:52] <soy> olaaaaaaa
[11:52] <FPS_Wes> how can I go about troubleshooting the problem where the screen just goes blank after trying to load installer?
[11:52] <soy> olaaa
[11:52] <morris1> i cant google for this since i have no browser :(
[11:52] <technopagan> I am creating a new icon-theme for Ubuntu and have a .txt-file with hundreds of old icons that need to be removed recursively from a bunch of subfolders. The txt-file contains the exact names of the files one per line. I tried to write a command to do that, but had no success: cat delete.txt | xargs rm */ . Can someone point out to me how to pass the list of filenames to the find-command? Or is there a better solution?
[11:54] <protocol1> jussi01, offset as in that when I move my mouse to the icon of the program I want to start it doesnt highlight it.....I have to click a few inches to the right of the one I want to start to launch it
[11:54] <jrib> technopagan: does the file contain paths like "a/b/file" or just names like "file"?
[11:55] <technopagan> jrib: Only filenames like "this-folder-name.png", no paths.
[11:55] <jussi01> protocol1: Im sorry, I dont know.
[11:55] <MaximB> hi people
[11:56] <FPS_Wes> hello
[11:56] <MaximB> at ubuntuforums - where can I post a job proposals for developers ?
[11:56] <protocol1> is there a help channel for ubuntu netbook remix or is this it too?
[11:58] <erUSUL> technopagan: for line in $(cat file.txt); do echo "$line" ; done
[11:58] <jrib> technopagan: something like (untested): IFS=$'\n'; for line in FILE; do find ROOT_DIRECTORY -iname "$line" -delete; done          # you may still have white space issues, idk
[11:58] <erUSUL> technopagan: for line in $(cat file.txt); do find folder/ -name $line -delete ; done
[11:59] <mizipzor> how do i list which groups i belong to?
[11:59] <jrib> mizipzor: groups
[11:59] <mizipzor> jrib, to simple, hehe, thx :)
[12:00] <jrib> technopagan: erm yeah you need to replace FILE with $(cat FILE) as erUSUL pointed out
[12:00] <Roland> MaximB, theres a subsection  Community Market, which has some work offers
[12:00] <technopagan> erUSUL: Thanks for your help. Unfortunately, your command returns "find: "folder/": No such file or directory". No icons were deleted.
[12:01] <jrib> technopagan: do any of your filenames have spaces in them?
[12:02] <erUSUL> technopagan: fiolder is the folder where the icons are stored
[12:02] <prince_jammys> while read file; do find ...blah... "$file" ; done < icons.txt
[12:02] <erUSUL> technopagan: just replace it with the apropiate name
[12:02] <technopagan> jrib: They shouldn't. It is a icon-theme with >16.000 files which need to be addressed by the "icon.theme".
[12:03] <technopagan> erUSUL: So it needs to be of the syntax: "/home/username/iconthemename/" ?
[12:03] <mizipzor> can i, using usermod -G, add a user to more than one group at the same time?
[12:04] <erUSUL> technopagan: also test firs without the -delete so you can check that the files listed are the ones you want to delete...
[12:04] <jrib> mizipzor: only if you want to remove your user from all his other groups.  Read the man page about -a
[12:04] <erUSUL> technopagan: for example
[12:04] <nrdb> I am running ubuntu jaunty as a host, using vmbuilder I created a guest (I think with a bridged network), when I start the kvm I can't seem to access the host computer.  my LAN is IP 192.168.1.x the VM IP is 10.0.2.15... what is wrong?
[12:04] <prince_jammys> mizipzor: the man page seems to say you can/
[12:04] <Lelouch> oldude67: yes i can see the device in there
[12:04] <mizipzor> jrib, ah! that was actually what i wanted, thx
[12:05] <technopagan> erUSUL: That did the trick! Thank you so much!
[12:05] <Faust|Avalon> from someone ubuntu fallen so then you can not do login on all acaunts (after entering the password does this by removing the request back to the user)? logs http://paste.org.ru/?n7q4st
[12:05] <oldude67> Lelouch, then you should be able to type in modprobe (name) device and see if it will load it.
[12:05] <technopagan> jrib: Thank you for your help!
[12:05] <erUSUL> technopagan: no problem...
[12:05] <georgefrs> Hi, does anyone have experience with setting up a linux HTPC? I'm looking at integrated chipsets and can't decide whethet to go with Ati 780G or Nvidia 8300
[12:05] <Lelouch> oldude67: in ternimal?
[12:06] <oldude67> Lelouch, yes and if it doesnt do a dmesg and see what the error is.
[12:06] <Lelouch> oldude67: should i do it like this "modprobe anydata adu-510a" ?
[12:07] <oldude67> Lelouch, unless there is someone here that knows more about it?
[12:07] <Radtoo> georgefrs: what about nvidia ion?
[12:07] <Lelouch> i'm afraid there isn't
[12:07] <technopagan> georgefrs: Personnaly, I'd say take Nvidia. I had a Ati-card in my old laptop and it made all kinds of trouble.
[12:07]  * macgyver_ is tearing his hair out
[12:07] <Lelouch> oldude67: this is the main problem i'm stuck with, i dunno what to type in vender and product id
[12:08] <macgyver_> I just installed the driver from ATI, I now "sort of" have a bog desktop, but have now lost compiz
[12:08] <georgefrs> Radtoo: I was thinking that but the boards have very limited SATA support
[12:08] <oldude67> Lelouch, well if it is showing up in the lsusb it should load with the modprobe
[12:08] <Lelouch> ok, i will try it now then
[12:08] <Lelouch> brb
[12:09] <georgefrs> technopagan: I'm inclined to agree, I have run an Ati x700 under linus in the past and it was an annoyance. But I've heard good things about 780G support
[12:09]  * macgyver_ needs help with ATI
[12:09] <Radtoo> georgefrs: 4 drives or so, yes?
[12:09] <leaf-sheep> Hello. I'm trying to include vga=XXX in my /boot/.  However, I wanted VESA 37B but I can't figure out which VGA numbers I wanted and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VESA_BIOS_Extensions#Linux_video_mode_numbers does not really specify it. I'm looking for 1280 x 720 x 32.  Suggestion or guides, please?
[12:10] <georgefrs> Radtoo: On the atom itx boards I saw it was more like 2
[12:10] <macgyver_> brb
[12:10] <georgefrs> Radtoo: But I would prefer the extra cpu punch anyway, I can get an AMD 240 x2 + m/b for the same cost as Atom + ion
[12:11] <Radtoo> georgefrs: both the point of view and zotac models I could buy here have 4... and yes I guess that part is a good argument if it is not just a htpc
[12:11] <technopagan> georgefrs: I am definitely NOT up to date on these matters. But because of some trouble with my current Intel video driver I talked to some fairly geeky guys just yesterday + they said to have no trouble with Nvidia.
[12:12] <Radtoo> georgefrs: its just nicer to have a htpc that does not consume much power, needs barely any cooling (or can be easily cooled passive even), and fits into a small box / case easily, if its my preferences ;)
[12:12] <Radtoo> georgefrs: well if you already picked this much, Id also say go with nvidia.
[12:14] <georgefrs> Radtoo: Thanks. My original plan was a nice low power HTPC box, perhaps a Acer Aspire Revo (linux version of course :D ).
[12:15] <georgefrs> Radtoo: But then we needed a 3tb NAS array as well and so it made sense to consolidate
[12:19] <eleazar>  
[12:21] <Lelouch> oldude67: dmesg shows this http://bcas.tv/paste/results/y16SLq72.html
[12:21] <Radtoo> georgefrs: Sounds like a sound plan, and its certainly much less power consuming than a full-blown modern quad core machine anyhow.
[12:24] <Zoran> click and play        http://zoranmilicevic.mybrute.com                     http://studentmustang.mybrute.com
[12:24] <georgefrs> Radtoo: Cheers. The Amd 240 x2 has a 65w tdp so while its not exactly low power it shouldn't be too demanding
[12:24] <jrib> Zoran: please don't advertise in this channel
[12:25] <Lelouch> oldude67: these are the screenshots i took from the device properties, if that could help you explain a little --> http://img193.imageshack.us/i/screenshotygd.png/        http://img18.imageshack.us/i/screenshot2akj.png/          http://img40.imageshack.us/i/screenshot1dzw.png/
[12:25] <georgefrs> Radtoo: and I'll use a branded 80 plus efficient psu to try and offset the power requirements
[12:26] <oldude67> Lelouch, was that everything from dmesg or the end did not get put in there...and did you get an error when you did the modprobe?
[12:27] <Lelouch> oldude67: yes that was all in dmaesg till the end, and i got an error like " module couldn't load" or something like this
[12:27] <Lelouch> in mosprobe that is
[12:27] <notsonerdysunny> is there something similar to "/etc/inittab" in debian/ubuntu systems?
[12:28] <jrib> !inittab | notsonerdysunny
[12:28] <jrib> notsonerdysunny: why?
[12:28] <notsonerdysunny> how can I control the run level?
[12:28] <jrib> notsonerdysunny: why?
[12:28] <Dr_Willis> notsonerdysunny:  ubuntu dosent really use runlevels for anything.
[12:29] <notsonerdysunny> how do I make it start with out the x then? I need to install graphics drivers...
[12:29] <jrib> !nvidia > notsonerdysunny
[12:29] <jrib> notsonerdysunny: install them the right way
[12:29] <grawity> notsonerdysunny: You can stop X with "service gdm stop" as root.
[12:29] <stevem> Dual head XDMCP session?  is it possible... anyone know?
[12:30] <georgefrs> anyway thanks Radtoo , technopagan ... I'm off to get a haircut now. No need to perpetuate comp sci stereotypes any more more than necessary :D
[12:30] <notsonerdysunny> thanks .. let me try it ..
[12:30] <jrib> notsonerdysunny: you should use the repositories to install the drivers, not install them manually
[12:30] <oldude67> Lelouch, is this an eth0 device or a modem?
[12:31] <Lelouch> it's a modem
[12:31] <notsonerdysunny> jrib ... will the repository install even the 64 bit nvidia driver?
[12:31] <jrib> notsonerdysunny: yes
[12:31] <Lelouch> oldude67: it's a WAN connection and this usb is the modem for it
[12:32] <notsonerdysunny> doing apt-cache search nvidia returned a bunch of nvidia stuff..
[12:32] <notsonerdysunny> how do i know which is the right one?
[12:32] <oldude67> Lelouch, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=763122
[12:32] <jrib> notsonerdysunny: well that's not what ubottu's link tells you to do.  Use System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers
[12:32] <tri1> hi guys...i am running hardy and needs to install erlang on it...aptitude installs an older version, how do i specify the version during the install?
[12:33] <Dr_Willis> stevem:  Hmm.. I think it worked here that way for me last week  when i tried it
[12:33] <Halitech> tri1, it will only install the version in the repo, you can't tell it what version to install .. if you need newer you would have to get it from the devs site
[12:33] <Dr_Willis> stevem:  i dont recall the 2nd monitor being disabled...
[12:34] <notsonerdysunny> some how I did not recieve the private message that ubottu was supposed to send me ...
[12:34] <tri1> ah ok thanks Halitech
[12:34] <oldude67> Lelouch, i have to leave now, maybe if you get stuck someone else here might be able to help you..have a good day.
[12:34] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto notsonerdysunny
[12:35] <tri1> Halitech: is there a way to ubdate the repo to use the jaunty repo cause i see jaunty has the right version?
[12:35] <Halitech> tri1, upgrade to jaunty
[12:35] <Lelouch> oldude67: thanks, i won't be here to tell you but i think this might work
[12:35] <Lelouch> i will try it now
[12:36] <bazhang> Halitech, you dont want to mix repo versions; upgrade to jaunty
[12:36] <stevem> Dr_Willis, well see this is a virtual ubuntu that I'm xdcmp'ing to ... it's only really got 1 'virtual' monitor - will I have to make a fake one
[12:36] <bazhang> Whoop, sorry Halitech
[12:36] <tri1> Halitech: u mean reinstall ?
[12:36] <Halitech> bazhang, np, I know better, even on Debian I don't mix and match :)
[12:37] <Halitech> tri1, no, just run the update manager
[12:37] <bazhang> tri1, upgrade via net if you wish
[12:37] <notsonerdysunny> Is there a way to find out what graphics card I have ?
[12:37] <Halitech> tri1, or you can get the alt install cd and use it to upgrade
[12:37] <tri1> but dont i just need the erlang stuff...wont this install all kinds of other things
[12:37] <Halitech> notsonerdysunny, lspci -C video
[12:38] <CopyWriter> hi guys
[12:38] <Halitech> tri1, it will upgrade your complete system to 9.04
[12:38] <CopyWriter> running into some difficulty trying to understandubuntu server
[12:38] <CopyWriter> i think i'm still thinking windows networking
[12:38] <CopyWriter> do i need a primary domain controller for my office network
[12:38] <CloseCall> hi, small question: i am connection to a remote machine (jaunty) and i can connect and i can type etc but the desktop does not refesh in my vnc client (vino)
[12:38] <notsonerdysunny> Halitech .. -C  does not seem to be recognized by lspci..?
[12:39] <CopyWriter> or should i just go ahead and put the desktops on a workgroup
[12:39] <CopyWriter> the question is if i do that, can i still specifiy which users connect to what shares
[12:39] <notsonerdysunny> !video
[12:39] <legend2440> notsonerdysunny: lspci | grep VGA
[12:39] <Halitech> notsonerdysunny, lspci then ... the -c is for lshw
[12:40] <coolguy4> when I spin my mousewheel, there's a delay of about half a second before the window scrolls. This happens in pretty much any application, I'm using ubuntu with gnome; any ideas about how to fix this?
[12:40] <CopyWriter> and or, is it necessary to have a pdc on my network if i'll not have any windows pc's connecting
[12:40] <Halitech> notsonerdysunny, got my commands mixed up
[12:40] <CopyWriter> going everything ubuntu
[12:40] <Dr_Willis> stevem:  no idea on that. I used xdmcp to connect to my pc thats behind me.. and im pretty sure both monitors worked here.. I would expect it to work thta way.. sice X is running 'locally' using twinview and the nvidia drivers.. just the apps are running remotely
[12:40] <laeg> !skype
[12:40] <Halitech> coolguy4, what video card and have you installed the proper drivers?
[12:41] <notsonerdysunny> ok .. I seem to have the intel's integrated graphics controller..
[12:41] <coolguy4> halitech: what terminal command can I use to check that?
[12:41] <coolguy4> halitech: I have onboard video
[12:41] <notsonerdysunny> what is the driver I am supposed to be using?
[12:41] <Halitech> coolguy4, lspci | grep vga
[12:41] <jetienne> q. what is the proper ubuntu mirror for a computer in the us ?
[12:42] <Halitech> notsonerdysunny, chances are you have the proper driver but in 9.04 there were some issues with the intel driver
[12:43] <Halitech> notsonerdysunny, check here ... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1130582
[12:44] <notsonerdysunny> see the problem is I have a graphics application .. which reports .. "Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"." .. I was able to fix this by installing a new graphics driver before on other machines..
[12:44] <notsonerdysunny> that is why I am trying this option...
[12:44] <notsonerdysunny> btw.. My installation is 8.04 not 9.10
[12:44] <Halitech> notsonerdysunny, installing the nvidia driver won't do any good if you don't have an nvidia card
[12:44] <veeti> How can I update to gphoto2 2.4.5?
[12:44] <coolguy4> halitech: 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon HD 3200 Graphics, that's the correct hardware
[12:44] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[12:45] <ShapeShifter499> I'm trying to edit a makefile
[12:45] <notsonerdysunny> sure .. I hadn't realized that I didn't have NVIDIA
[12:45] <notsonerdysunny> but now I know
[12:45] <zipito_> #grails
[12:45] <bjb1959> doing fresh install of jaunty and after installing nvidia driver from the hardware driver manager X won't start until I revert to old config. I know nvidia drivers suck but it used to work flawlessly in previous versions what is the problem?
[12:45] <ShapeShifter499> how do I define a "user" desktop foler?
[12:45] <notsonerdysunny> would you have a suggestion why its telling that there is not GLX extension?
[12:45] <ManDay> Since I changed my password I get problems with the keyring. For instance when I start my computer my NetworkManager tries to access the data for my WLAN but I get a message "... tries to access the default keyring, but it's locked" - and even if I enter my new password in this promt, it just re-appears, asking again and again! Please help!
[12:46] <ShapeShifter499> I'm trying to edit a makefile, how do I define a user's desktop folder?
[12:46] <ArPharazon> hello everyone, what does "hal-storage-fixed-mount-all-options refused uid 999" mean?
[12:46] <Halitech> coolguy4, look in hardware drivers and see if anything is listed there
[12:47] <Slart> bjb1959: nvidia drivers are among the better ones.. how do you mean "won't start".. how do you "revert to old config" ?
[12:47] <Dr_Willis> ManDay:  you may want to check --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7470795
[12:47] <Halitech> notsonerdysunny, not sure, I don't have any systems with intel chips so don't know much about them
[12:47] <Dr_Willis> ManDay:  i just set my keyring to not need a password.
[12:47] <ManDay> Checking, Dr_Willis
[12:48] <ShapeShifter499> well anyone know?
[12:48] <bjb1959> Slart, I get the X reconfigure screen asking if I want to revert or start x in low graphics mode
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> ManDay:  and ive no idea why the setting program is in   Applications->Accessories->Passwords and Encryption Keys    instead of system -> perfserances :)
[12:48] <Slart> bjb1959: can you pastebin the file /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[12:48] <CopyWriter> i found the ubuntu-server channel :)
[12:48] <CopyWriter> right off the bat
[12:49] <bjb1959> Slart, sure give me a couple minutes
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> ManDay:  the interface to that program is a little odd also.. You 'right' click on the various 'lines' it displays to set teh passwords for the specific things.
[12:49] <ManDay> Exactly my thought, Dr_Willis - I would never have looked there, if you hadnt told me
[12:50] <Dr_Willis> ManDay:  i had to google this also. :) its been asked in here a dozen+ times befor.. I bookmarked tht url for just these answers Heh
[12:50] <ShapeShifter499> well??????///
[12:51] <Dr_Willis> ManDay:  you just reminded me i needed to fix it also so Now perhaps UbuntuOne will stop asking to access the keyring :)
[12:51] <ManDay> Yes Dr_Willis I figured it out. Apparently, my keyring password hasnt implictly changed when I changed my user password. Although I assumed that this may be the case I didn't find anything which could let me change the keyring password in Preferences, as you pointed out. But now I know it :)
[12:51] <lstarnes> ShapeShifter499: it defaults to /home/$USER/Desktop
[12:51] <ArPharazon> Anyone? "hal-storage-fixed-mount-all-options refused uid 999"?
[12:51] <bjb1959> Slart, http://pastebin.ca/1519089
[12:51] <Boohbah> ShapeShifter499: /home/$USER/Desktop
[12:51] <Slart> bjb1959: ok, I'll have a look
[12:51] <Dr_Willis> ManDay:  A++ :)
[12:51] <ShapeShifter499> tnx
[12:52] <ManDay> Thanks then. Cya, cheers!
[12:54] <ClapBedon> Hi there
[12:54] <bozo_man> hi there
[12:54] <ClapBedon> Can anyone help me with a dist-upgrade ?
[12:55] <ClapBedon> I tried to upgrade to Koala aplha3 yesterday
[12:55] <Offoffoff> ClapBedon: for what?
[12:55] <ClapBedon> but I had to close my computer while update-manager was downloading packages
[12:55] <lstarnes> ClapBedon: if you're currently using karmic, the channel for it is #ubuntu+1
[12:55] <Offoffoff> ClapBedon: Just continue it.
[12:55] <ClapBedon> now when i run update-manager again, it doesn't show koala anymore
[12:56] <Slart> bjb1959: what does you xorg.conf look like?
[12:56] <lstarnes> ClapBedon: what does lsb_release -a say?
[12:56] <Halitech> ClapBedon, you could try sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:56] <ClapBedon> No LSB modules are available.
[12:56] <ClapBedon> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[12:56] <ClapBedon> Description:	Ubuntu 9.04
[12:56] <ClapBedon> Release:	9.04
[12:56] <ClapBedon> Codename:	jaunty
[12:56] <FloodBot1> ClapBedon: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:56] <bjb1959> Slart, give me a minute
[12:57] <Nightwolf> anyone else got problem apt-get updating? can't connect to archive.canonical.com
[12:57] <Offoffoff> ClapBedon: update-manager -d
[12:57] <Offoffoff> ClapBedon: sudo update-manager -d
[12:57] <Nightwolf> now it stucks at "wait for header"
[12:58] <bjb1959> Slart, http://pastebin.ca/1519096
[12:58] <ClapBedon> offoffoff : yes, that's what i did
[12:58] <ClapBedon> halitech : according to apt-get, there are no package to install, i'm up to date
[12:58] <Halitech> Nightwolf, can you load it in a web browser?
[12:58] <Offoffoff> ClapBedon: sudo update-manager --dist-upgrade
[12:59] <Offoffoff> ClapBedon: Maybe that?
[12:59] <Slart> bjb1959: you want to use the open source nvidia driver? or the binary driver?
[12:59] <Halitech> Offoffoff, ClapBedon should be gksudo if it launches a gui
[12:59] <bjb1959> binary driver unfortunately
[12:59] <ClapBedon> offoffoff : tried that too!
[12:59] <Slart> bjb1959: then remove the "driver nv" line in xorg.conf
[12:59] <Halitech> ClapBedon, do things seem to be working?
[12:59] <ClapBedon> it loads the dist-upgrade software, but founds nothing to install
[13:00] <Slart> !upgrade
[13:00] <bjb1959> Slart, I changed that manually so X would start it used to say "nvidia" which didn't work
[13:00] <sysbeast> i have problems with applications (mostly games) that run a different resolution than my desktop... i only get a black screen! anyone can tell me how can i fix this?
[13:00] <Offoffoff> Slart: Thank You, Sir
[13:00] <ClapBedon> halitech : my computer works fine
[13:01] <^cheeky> errm .. whats the top part in gnome called .. where you havethe list for applications and what not ?
[13:01] <Slart> bjb1959: hmm... if I were you I would uninstall everything nvidia using synaptic.. including nvidia glx and so on..reboot and try reinstalling the binary driver
[13:02] <ClapBedon> Is there something I could change in /etc/apt to make it work ?
[13:02] <bjb1959> Slart, already did a apt-get --purge remove nvidia* and started over. didn't work
[13:03] <Offoffoff> ClapBedon: maybe sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list?
[13:03] <fahadsadah> Offoffoff: gksudo nano
[13:03] <Offoffoff> ClapBedon: And to change repos to carmic?
[13:03] <Halitech> ClapBedon, should be fine then
[13:03] <Offoffoff> fahadsadah: :-)
[13:03] <Halitech> fahadsadah, don't need gksudo for nano, it runs in the terminal
[13:04] <Offoffoff> fahadsadah: What the sense
[13:04] <ikonia> don't change any repos to karmic on your jaunty box
[13:04] <Slart> bjb1959: odd.. does the live cd work for you?
[13:04] <user10> which package has mathematics.h avutil.h swscale.h on ubuntu
[13:04] <Offoffoff> ikonia: why? will be cool!
[13:04] <ArPharazon> Can anyone help me out please? I can't get into my winxp partitions from the livecd
[13:04] <user10> which is the command which searches for header files in packages.
[13:05] <Slart> !find mathematics.h
[13:05] <ikonia> Offoffoff: no - it is not a cool thing to do and can / will break your system
[13:05] <ClapBedon> everything points to jaunty, looks normal
[13:05] <erUSUL> !find stdunix.h
[13:05] <Offoffoff> ArPharazon: just to force mount action
[13:05] <bjb1959> Slart, yes but I think I found some instructions that might work. don't know why jaunty doesn't work. hopefully they get it fixed for Karmic. I'll give these instructions a shot. Thanks
[13:05] <user10> cool
[13:05] <Offoffoff> ikonia: it is risk
[13:05] <user10> so you mean i need to come to chat room to get this
[13:06] <bazhang> Offoffoff, dont recommend here
[13:06] <ikonia> Offoffoff: it's not supported/recommended, there are official upgrade processes, please think about what you are suggesting to people
[13:06] <ikonia> Offoffoff: at least make it clear the risks
[13:06] <ArPharazon> Offoffoff: how do I do that?
[13:06] <Slart> user10: you can also use apt-file
[13:06] <Offoffoff> bazhang: why?
[13:06] <bazhang> Offoffoff, it will break things; dont make wild recommendations here
[13:06] <Offoffoff> ikonia: but he is trying to risk
[13:07] <user10> Slart: thanks i had forgotten that
[13:07] <ikonia> Offoffoff: because of the danger to breaking his system, there are official/supported upgrade processes
[13:07] <bazhang> Offoffoff, please stop
[13:07] <Slart> user10: you're welcome
[13:07] <ClapBedon> I won't change the repositories
[13:07] <Offoffoff> bazhang: ok
[13:07] <ikonia> !upgrade > ClapBedon
[13:07] <ikonia> ClapBedon: also check the topic in #ubuntu+1
[13:07] <bazhang> ClapBedon, support in #ubuntu+1
[13:07] <ArPharazon> Offoffoff: Do you mean just right click - actions - mount? That doesn@t work
[13:07] <net3> surabaya
[13:08] <ClapBedon> okay, i'll ask there
[13:08] <Offoffoff> bazhang: he breaks usual procedure of upgrading
[13:08] <ClapBedon> thanks
[13:08] <Offoffoff> ArPharazon: no
[13:08] <Roland> How to find which tty* an usb-to-serial converter with an address of 1-1.3:1.0 was attached to?
[13:08] <ArPharazon> Offoffoff: What do you mean?
[13:08] <Offoffoff> ArPharazon: You have to go to Gnome-Terminal
[13:08] <Offoffoff> ArPharazon: and make it with mount command
[13:09] <Offoffoff> ArPharazon: with -o force
[13:09] <Dr_Willis> Roland:  when you plug it in.. check output of 'dmesg' command.. wait a few sec.. check it again.. eventually it 'should' put out a messasge about what /dev/ttyS## its using
[13:09] <Offoffoff> ArPharazon: go to private
[13:09] <bu> guys, my wireless doesnt connect to any type o network its intel 3945abg and am runnin ubuntu 9.04 , any suggestions?
[13:09] <Roland> Dr_Willis, I need to find it programmatically
[13:09] <bu> p.s ndiswrapper and backports didnt work, also the compact wireless package..
[13:10] <Dr_Willis> Roland:  No idea then.
[13:10] <ikonia> ArPharazon: what are you trying to mount ?
[13:10] <Dr_Willis> Roland:  in theory i THINK the /dev/ttys## shouldent appear untill the module for it loads...
[13:10] <ArPharazon> my harddisk
[13:10] <Halitech> ArPharazon, was windows shut down properly?
[13:11] <ikonia> ArPharazon: your windows hard disk ?
[13:11] <ArPharazon> Halitech: It's broken to pieces. Hence trying to get in the hd
[13:11] <minimec> bu: http://www.mail-archive.com/ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com/msg1587589.html Looks that the driver is still unstable...
[13:11] <a3lieser> trillian is cool... first time using it.. cooolsss
[13:12] <DrRighteous> quit
[13:12] <minimec> bu: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/348204
[13:12] <wazzag> id
[13:12] <Halitech> ArPharazon, ok, if windows wasn't shut down properly the NTFS file system that windows uses has the drive marked as locked, you will need to use the force option from the command line in order to mount it
[13:12] <Roland> Dr_Willis, any idea how to make sure that the device is always attached to the same tty?
[13:13] <a3lieser> :-9
[13:13] <ArPharazon> Halitech: so what is the command, exactly? I'm not so good with cli i'm afraid
[13:13] <Halitech> ArPharazon, looking it up, I don't have any NTFS drives
[13:14] <minimec> Roland: You could probably achieve this with an udev rule... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=505511
[13:14] <Halitech> ArPharazon, see this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=7631034&postcount=6
[13:15] <a3lieser> wow this is awesome... well.... GTG  L8trs
[13:15] <bu> minimec: thanks for the info i was struggling with it the whole past two weeks i almost tried everthing..
[13:16] <minimec> bu: Yeah... Udev rules can be tricky... I had to add some udev rules for my 3D Connexion SpacePilot...
[13:17] <Aziiiiz> Hello
[13:18] <Aziiiiz> any one ON UinSA privet plz
[13:18] <bazhang> Aziiiiz, ask here
[13:19] <earthen> hey guys can i do updates to a live usb install
[13:20] <earthen> i'm trying but it says the drive is full, but i've looked and it not even close to full
[13:20] <rek> HELP          Xsession: waring:unable to write to /tmp: ;Xsession may exit with an error.
[13:21] <rski> !ask rek
[13:21] <rski> !ask
[13:21] <minimec> earthen: You can If you gave the system some Userspace, when you installed the system on your stick.
[13:21] <ClapBedon> no one's alive in ubuntu+1 :(
[13:21] <rek> ask help
[13:21] <rek> ubuntu hasy mojo
[13:22] <dpreacher> How can i safely remove insserv and what is the suggested replacement for it?
[13:22] <dpreacher> thanks
[13:22] <Lord-Readman> can anyone contribute here... http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/20876/
[13:22] <daem_> +++++++++++++++++
[13:23] <daem_> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
[13:23] <prince_jammys> earthen: what does the command 'ls -ld /tmp' output ?
[13:23] <daem_> sorry bout that
[13:25] <ArPharazon> Halitech: I tried to mount but that froze the computer, and also froze the livecd on my first boot attempt. The next boot went fine
[13:26] <Halitech> ArPharazon, drive might be that screwed that you can't mount it, did you try to mount it after a reboot?
[13:26] <Dr_Willis> Lord-Readman:  yes you can.
[13:27] <Dr_Willis> Roland:  that sould be some  HAL rules/udev/rules I think.. ive seen forums/topics mention it for other types of devices.. but ive never looked into it. (FDI files perhaps?)
[13:27] <ArPharazon> Halitech: No I only tried once but yesterday I tried installing kubuntu/running gparted and both resulted in freeze the moment that hd was accessed
[13:28] <ArPharazon> Halitech: You mean I've irrevocably lost everything on my hd?
[13:28] <daem_> might not be the right place to inquire, but if I were looking to dual/triple boot...  xp/os x/'nix (ubuntu(remix(for netbooks))) on a Acer Aspire One, and I had no other source for my disc.iso of xp or os x, are there any suggestions for how to get my images to usb-drive so that I might boot into the installer, wihtout needing the os running in the first place?  For xp, haven't seen a single source leading down that path, and for os/x w
[13:28] <daem_> ell, haven't done the legwork, so we'll wait for that.  Let's say dual boot, xp/ubuntu(eeebuntu 3.0 NBR) installed without the use of a source computer running xp
[13:28] <daem_> hell
[13:28] <Halitech> ArPharazon, might be time to test the drive with Ultimate Boot cd tools ... if the drive it toast then yes
[13:28] <daem_> UBCD?
[13:28] <daem_> on USB/
[13:28] <daem_> ?
[13:28] <Dr_Willis> daem_:  to tripple boot like that you will need to learn some grub and manually edit the menu.lst most likely.
[13:29] <Dr_Willis> daem_:   You are doing XP, Uubntu, and UNR?
[13:30] <daem_> Dr_Willis don't know UNR, was thinking in a different direction for the third boot
[13:30] <techryan> Why triple boot? Just load everything up in vmware or something.
[13:30] <daem_> think might be best to stick to secondary boot options first.
[13:30] <Dr_Willis> daem_:  theres no need to use UNR and Ubuntu. UNR will do what all ubuntu can.
[13:30] <daem_> the processor isn't the best for such activities,suppose if I fed it into a cloud
[13:30] <daem_> Dr_Willis Link to UNR?
[13:30] <Dr_Willis> daem_:  its worth while learning how ubuntu does the grub confiugs and how to manually edit grub's menu.lst that will make tripple booting much easier.
[13:31] <Dr_Willis> daem_:  its on the ubuntudownload pages.. you will need to put the Ubuntu netbook remix (UNR) on a flash drive to boot/install it..
[13:31] <daem_> Dr_Willis: When I went into the commands availabnle to me in the command line in grub, was a bit lost
[13:32] <daem_> da, yes, gotcha there.  UNR > eeebuntu?
[13:32] <daem_> or =?
[13:32] <daem_> brb
[13:33] <daem_> back..  just wanted to have the UNR pages in front of my face
[13:34] <aaron> hello?
[13:34] <aaron> anyone there?
[13:34] <fumblnoob> lots of lurkers
[13:34] <aaron> pwned
[13:34] <bjb1959> I'm back. I am having no luck what-so-ever getting the nvidia driver installed. Worked fine on this same machine after I upgraded from hardy but after a fresh install on the same machine X won't start unless I use the "nv" driver
[13:34]  * sipior shakes his head
[13:35] <rek> HELP          Xsession: waring:unable to write to /tmp: ;Xsession may exit with an error.
[13:36] <dpreacher> whats the best way to make a tarball backup of entire hard disk and store it on another machine on the network? CLI tools please
[13:36] <daem_> Dr_Willis: When I attmpted to get hardy to work with the aspire, it' kept failing, so I finally moved over to eeebuntu [ http://www.eeebuntu.org/index.php?page=nbr ]   and it loaded right in
[13:37] <dpreacher> How can i safely remove insserv and what is the suggested replacement for it?
[13:37] <sipior> dpreacher: image with partimage. compress with tar as desired.
[13:37] <dpreacher> sipior...thanks...
[13:37] <sipior> dpreacher: with gzip/bzip2, rather
[13:37] <Dr_Willis> daem_:  UNR works great for me.. i followed the forums/pages for some tweaks also
[13:38] <dpreacher> sipior...one thing i find hard to understand from tar man is how to specify the destination. is it -d?
[13:38] <daem_> mondoarchive?
[13:38] <quizme> how do i append multiple line output to a file from the command line ?
[13:38] <daem_> Dr_Willis: Hardy?
[13:38] <Dr_Willis> daem_:  UNR is the official netboon remix of the latest 9.04
[13:38] <sipior> dpreacher: you can change to a directory with -C, if that's what you mean
[13:38] <danbhfive> quizme: >>
[13:38] <grawity> dpreacher: tar cvzf files.tgz file anotherfile directory/
[13:38] <daem_> Dr_Willis: direct link please?
[13:39] <dpreacher> oh...no switches for output dir grawity?
[13:39] <Dr_Willis> daem_:  no idea.. its a img file where you get the ubuntu ISO files at.
[13:39] <quizme> danbhfive, i want to do it in one line though
[13:39] <Vlack> hello
[13:39] <Dr_Willis> daem_:  you MUST dd it to a flash drive to boot it, then install it.
[13:39] <quizme> append multiple lines with one linux command...
[13:39] <Vlack> how do i identify which wifi card install on my computer
[13:39] <dpreacher> sipior, daem_ am also a bit uncertain if I should go for disk image or simple data backup. I need access to individual files. its a one time exercise atm.
[13:39] <ArPharazon> Halitech: Should I bother trying to make windows ultimate boot cd from the livecd or just se the original ubcd?
[13:39] <danbhfive> quizme: well, you have to pipe it for each command.  I don't think the line is not relevant
[13:40] <Halitech> ArPharazon, just the original
[13:40] <danbhfive> quizme: oops, double neg
[13:40] <ArPharazon> ok
[13:40] <Vlack> anyone
[13:40] <sipior> dpreacher: then best to mirror the data with rsync or the like
[13:40] <danbhfive> Vlack: lsusb for usb cards, lspci for pci cards, lspcmcia for laptop cards
[13:41] <panfist> is there a way to test if a port is open to my box from the command line?
[13:41] <Vlack> good thanks
[13:41] <bjb1959> I am having no luck what-so-ever getting the nvidia driver installed. Worked fine on this same machine after I upgraded from Intrepid but after a fresh install on the same machine X won't start unless I use the "nv" driver
[13:42] <sipior> panfist: netstat for the local machine, nmap for scanning external machines (and localhost as well, come to that)
[13:42] <dpreacher> sipior...maybe i'll try the tar method, coz currently am not sure how i'll get rsync working over samba mount.
[13:42] <daem_> i fear ethereos may fail me again, so scary to go back to something that I am not quite sure is workable within the required timeframe I have
[13:42] <Vlack> danbhfive, lspcmcia not returning any output
[13:42] <Vlack> blank
[13:42] <daem_> still fairly new
[13:43] <danbhfive> Vlack: do you have a laptop?
[13:43] <Vlack> yes
[13:43] <danbhfive> Vlack: did you try lspci?
[13:43] <toehio2> Do you have to port forward to use SIP VOIP?
[13:43] <dpreacher> are there any tools to search within man pages?
[13:43] <sipior> dpreacher: using ssh as the transport mechanism, rsync will work just fine to a samba share with no work at all
[13:43] <daem_> Dr_Willis thanks for the input though, will legwork down the requirements, read up, and fire away if lost.
[13:43] <sipior> dpreacher: yes, you can try "/" and then the term you want to search for.
[13:43] <danbhfive> Vlack: lshw -C networking
[13:44] <sipior> dpreacher: also, try "apropos <topic>"
[13:44] <daem_> dd > cp ??
[13:44] <dpreacher> sipior / on the CLI? i knew about apropos/man -k only...wondered if something better was there
[13:44] <suigeneris> why does the touchpad get enabled automatically a while after I disable it using gsynaptics?
[13:44] <Vlack> danbhfive, still not getting any output
[13:45] <user10> am getting this error: The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[13:45] <user10>   libavutil-dev: Depends: libavutil49 (= 3:0.svn20090303-1ubuntu6) but it is not going to be installed
[13:45] <user10> E: Broken packages
[13:45] <sipior> daem_: that statement is true, at least lexicographically :-)
[13:46] <daem_> sipior: thanks
[13:46] <toehio2> does anyone here use ekiga?
[13:46] <leaf-sheep> Ubuntu can't do boot logging? :(
[13:46] <quizme> danbhfive: thnx i'll just do it on separate lines.
[13:47] <Dr_Willis> daem_:  the UNR page tells how to dd it to a flash drive..  'sudo dd whatever.img > /dev/sdb ' (NOT sdb1 ) :) if sdb is the flash drive.
[13:47] <danbhfive> Vlack: oops: sudo lshw -C network
[13:47] <dpreacher> I am looking through the tar man page to look for switch to exclude the /mnt path while backing up the whole of / and found this --exclude=PATTERN is there any way to make sure it skips only /mnt and no other files or folders elsewhere which might be named */mnt* so to say.
[13:47] <quizme> do fish eat ants ?
[13:48] <quizme> mine kept spitting them out
[13:48] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. my /mnt is empty :)
[13:48] <danbhfive> quizme: sorry, I can't help much without seeing the command
[13:48] <quizme> i'll pastie it
[13:48] <zimbres> hi, I can not find my hd* devices in /dev, where are they?
[13:48] <panfist> is there a way to test from the command line whether a port is open to my machine from my firewall?
[13:48] <dpreacher> I mounted the location i want to save the backup to on /mnt Dr_Wiliis
[13:48] <dpreacher> Dr_Willis
[13:48] <Dr_Willis> zimbres:  most all drives show up as /dev/sd#x now a days
[13:48] <Vlack> danbhfive, yes i did that
[13:48] <Vlack> but its not showing
[13:49] <Dr_Willis> dpreacher:  ahh.. Id say check out some tar tutorials/guides.. i always have to look things up since i rarely do that stuff much.
[13:49] <danbhfive> Vlack: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit <(sudo lshw)
[13:49] <dpreacher> its ok Dr_Willis. thanks
[13:49] <leaf-sheep> How do you view logs on bootup?  I have some [fail] that I would like to read but they scrolled up so darn fast.
[13:49] <Dr_Willis> dpreacher:  im not sure that exclude is for a 'path' it says pattern.. that may be a filename pattern.
[13:50] <lstarnes> leaf-sheep: you could try dmesg
[13:50] <dpreacher> thats the worry part Dr_Willis
[13:50] <Dr_Willis> leaf-sheep:  i saw  a service that i THINK did that.. I enabled it in 'bum' (install bum first) but im not sure where it logged themn to.
[13:50] <lstarnes> leaf-sheep: there's also /var/log/syslog and other logs in /var/log
[13:50] <daem_> Dr_Willis: Would you say building from the ground up for my UNR would be my best bet?  Leaving me to install only & exactly what my client wants?
[13:51] <daem_> ok, that made me giggle like a juvenile..   Install bum.  lol
[13:51] <Dr_Willis> daem_:  I used the UNR then tweaked it a little..  there were a few tweaks mentioned in the AAO forum threads on the forum.
[13:51] <Dr_Willis> !info bum
[13:51] <leaf-sheep> lstarnes, Dr_Willis: I have two [fail] services but I looked up on "sudo nano /etc/default/boot*" to toggle ON --> YES but apparently it was never fixed so boot logging is not possible since 7.10.  The to-be-logged path is /var/log/boot
[13:52] <leaf-sheep> Dr_Willis: Since you said you toggled it on bum, can you check /etc/default/boot* to see if it highlights Yes?
[13:52] <Dr_Willis> leaf-sheep:  my boot  is also empty.   thers also a bootstrap.log
[13:52] <user10> yes toehio2
[13:52] <Dr_Willis> bootstrap.log dont seem to be what we want either
[13:53] <Dr_Willis> !info  bootlogd
[13:53] <Dr_Willis> Hmmm
[13:54] <Dr_Willis> thats weird.
[13:54] <leaf-sheep> Dr_Willis, lstarnes:  There are no bootstrap.log + syslog.log.  I'm trying to resolve my Ubuntu HTPC but the problem is not XBMC-affiliated.  Just that I want to see what the message said. Something about appamor not loading properly.
[13:54] <leaf-sheep> !logs
[13:54] <leaf-sheep> Meh. Not that.
[13:54] <Dr_Willis> leaf-sheep:  apparmour  is a security thing thats normally disabled by default.. thats proberly why you saw that
[13:54] <Dr_Willis> !apparmour
[13:54] <Dr_Willis> !apparmor
[13:54] <Dr_Willis> I thinkits off by default at least.
[13:55] <dpreacher> sudo tar -jcvf --exclude="/mnt/share" /* /mnt/share grawity is this right cmd to bzip2 tar the entire / filesystem except the share mount point into the share mountpoint?
[13:55] <danbhfive> Dr_Willis: I think its on by default
[13:55] <Dr_Willis> leaf-sheep:  well 'bum' mentions bootlogd. but i cant find any other info on the service.
[13:56] <Dr_Willis> danbhfive:  it might be 'on' but with no rules.. not sure. :) ive never really looked into it much
[13:56] <sidp> has anyone tired firefox 3.5.2 yet?
[13:56] <Dr_Willis> danbhfive:  ill go read the page and see :P
[13:56] <Socah> Hello. does anyone know how to start services in background while booting system? For example apache, mysql, noip2 - in Arch that was just adding "@" before service name in /etc/rc.conf, but I can't any alternative there.
[13:56] <grawity> dpreacher: no, the destination archive name goes immediately after the cvjf part.
[13:57] <leaf-sheep> Dr_Willis: Would I need apparmor?  I figure I could eliminate the problem entirely by uninstalling it since the only network access would be to get weather and such.  Also, to get files from local network.
[13:57] <comatsu> for some reason i unmounted and remounted a drive, and now whenever i restart the drive disappears and i have to mount it manually each time - any solutions?
[13:57] <grawity> comatsu: Is the drive in /etc/fstab?
[13:58] <dpreacher> sudo tar -jcvf /mnt/share/backup.tar.bz2 --exclude="/mnt/share" /* grawity, this fixes it, i hope
[13:58] <comatsu> grawity the drive is /dev/sda3
[13:58] <Dr_Willis> leaf-sheep:  id imagine its not the problem.. but i dont rcall what your actual problem is/was.. ive rarely seen anyone inhere mention problems with apparmor
[13:58] <grawity> dpreacher: Now just replace /* with simply / and it should be okay :)
[13:58] <coke[Lad]> can I asK about awn?
[13:58] <dpreacher> thanks grawity
[13:58] <Dr_Willis> leaf-sheep:  now UNinstalling it.. may cause problems.
[13:59] <leaf-sheep> Dr_Willis: I'm reinstalling it. I think the boot sequence for Appamaror may be borked.
[13:59] <coke[Lad]>  Checking for hardware/setup problems...           [FAIL] : can someone helP me..?
[14:00] <leaf-sheep> Dr_Willis: It still display fail for some reason and I'm saddened by the fact that I can't toggle on boot logging. :(
[14:00] <Dr_Willis> leaf-sheep:  apparmounr proberly has its own rather more detailed logs.. if thats whats 'failing'
[14:01] <earthen> I'm downloading a a torrent file and i'm getting an error says no more space on drive but I still have over 3 gigs free why is that?
[14:01] <Dr_Willis> earthen:  how big is the hd/ by default 5% is reserved for 'root/recovery' ussage..
[14:01] <leaf-sheep> earthen: HDD accomplished by HDD Space + Swap + Boot.
[14:01] <roffe> earthen: How big is the file you're downloading?
[14:02] <Dyllan> Is anyone 'well versed' in using the linux 'tc' command? I have a script setup and working, but i got it from an online source, and although i partially understand it and have made some additions i cannot seem to achieve what i need; http://pastebin.com/d6e576887
[14:02] <igor_> Hi, I can't understand memory usage, I summed up %MEM of top and got approx. 700MB, while free tells me that am using 980 MB (250 Cache) and 700 MB swap. What does use the difference?
[14:02] <earthen> file is 10 gigs
[14:03] <Bad_Religion> i dont see where the logrotate for /var/log/syslog is being set?
[14:03] <Dr_Willis> earthen:  and how big is the hard drive?
[14:03] <Bad_Religion> somehow its being rotated daily but the default logrotate config is set to weekly
[14:03] <earthen> crap i see the problem I made my home dir only 1 gig
[14:03] <leaf-sheep> Dr_Willis: Well.  There are nothing under /var/log/apparmor. I think that's logs for recording events occuring with apparmor, not when loading apparmor.
[14:03] <Bad_Religion> and nothing relevant in /etc/logrotate.d
[14:03] <roffe> earthen: so you've got 13 gigs left?
[14:04] <Dr_Willis> leaf-sheep:   just reading up on apparmor at the suse page.. its got some neat features.. but you are one of the first ive seen inhere with any problems withit....
[14:04] <earthen> roffe, Dr_Willis ok so can i move the download to a bigger drive?
[14:04] <imlad_> yes, dialing in...
[14:04] <earthen> roffe, Dr_Willis or do i have to start over
[14:04] <Dr_Willis> earthen:  you could stop the torrent.. move the stuff. and somehow tell the torrent to use the other location.. yes..
[14:04] <sidp> does anyone know how to install firefox 3.5 in ubuntu
[14:04] <leaf-sheep> !ff35 | sidp
[14:04] <roffe> earthen: you can switch it, but with some hazzle
[14:05] <Socah> Does anyone know how to start services in background while booting system? For example apache, mysql, noip2 - in Arch that was just adding "@" before service name in /etc/rc.conf, but I can't find any alternative there.
[14:05] <panfist> i just tried to install xfce4 on ubuntu server 8.04, and then run xfce4-session and i'm getting the error Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0.0
[14:05] <earthen> roffe, Dr_Willis what about just resizing my home dir
[14:05] <danbhfive> earthen: I know deluge has an option to more the torrent.  I don't know about transmission, but it should
[14:05] <Dr_Willis> roffe:  start torrent saving to new location.. stop it.. copy your stuff you allready got TO that new location.. and then restart the torrent - let it check.verify is one way
[14:05] <Dr_Willis> earthen:  resizing may take some time..
[14:05] <sidp> thanks leaf-sheep
[14:06] <leaf-sheep> sidp: Don't forget to thank the robot too. :)
[14:06] <earthen> roffe, Dr_Willis took me 2 weeks to download this much
[14:06] <Dr_Willis> earthen:  or just move the download dir to the other drive/partition and make a link pointing to the new location from the old
[14:06] <sidp> thanks ubottu :)
[14:06] <klaas> hey, I know I read something about encrypted root unlockable over ssh(using dropbear) I can't seem to find the help page anymore, anyone got a link? :)
[14:06] <ShapeShifter499> I got a question, if I have to run a makefile as root(because its in a .deb file) what command do I put into that makefile to get a file to go to the user's desktop NOT the root's desktop?
[14:06] <sidp> leaf-sheep: no way to run in on 8.10?
[14:06] <leaf-sheep> earthen: The best thing about torrent.  You can always pick up where you left off.
[14:06] <earthen> Dr_Willis, that sounds like a idea
[14:06] <dayo> how do i change a user's primary group?
[14:06] <Dr_Willis> earthen:  so yes.. there are ways to move the data/downloads.. depends onhow you want to do it.
[14:06] <leaf-sheep> sidp: Read the link.  Should say something about Intrepid.
[14:07] <earthen> Dr_Willis, I just don't want to loose what i've gotten so far
[14:07] <slayton> is anybody else having problems signing up for a AIM username in ubuntu?
[14:07] <ShapeShifter499> well?
[14:07] <suigeneris> why does the touchpad get enabled automatically a while after I disable it using gsynaptics?
[14:07] <Dr_Willis> earthen:  or as i said.. start torrent again. saving to a NEW location.. then stop it.. and then copy your data to that new location.. and restart it.. it should 'verify; the data and continue'
[14:08] <make> dayo usermod -g group user
[14:08] <ville__> join/ubuntu-fi
[14:08] <earthen> Dr_Willis,  ok I'll try that
[14:08] <make> dayao sudo usermod
[14:08] <ShapeShifter499> well?
[14:09] <curtis_> I know I'm going to sound like an idiot for saying this but what programming language does Linux (specifically Ubuntu) use?
[14:09] <icerazor> Python!!
[14:09] <ShapeShifter499> well????
[14:09] <ShapeShifter499> yy
[14:09] <Dr_Willis> ShapeShifter499:  I thinkyou got several things sort of mixxed up... normally you compile things as  a user. (to build the deb) then you install it as root.     you mean you want the files it installs to 'install' to some specific /home/username/Desktop directory?
[14:10] <leaf-sheep> Dr_Willis: Want to know what makes sense now? I looked again closely and I see it... It was "starting kernel log daemon failed"
[14:10] <curtis_> is Python really it? because there is a real doucher trying to tell me it's summat else
[14:10] <Dr_Willis> leaf-sheep:  :P
[14:10] <leaf-sheep> Dr_Willis: I'll google now. Thanks for possible solutions.  But funny thing. :P
[14:10] <dayo> make: thank you
[14:10] <ShapeShifter499> Dr_Willis: yes
[14:10] <earthen> roffe, Dr_Willis, leaf-sheep  thanks guys
[14:10] <Dr_Willis> curtis_:  python is used a lot by many disrtos for gui/tools and other support programs.
[14:10] <make> dayo :)
[14:11] <sipior> curtis_: the linux kernel is written in C. but a default linux install typically contains about a dozen different programming languages
[14:11] <ShapeShifter499> \\
[14:12] <ShapeShifter499> \\
[14:12] <arand> curtis_: C, Perl, Python, C++, are a few
[14:12] <ShapeShifter499> opps
[14:12] <Pici> ShapeShifter499: Stop that.
[14:12] <Dr_Willis> ShapeShifter499:   that dosent make a lot of sence.. If you wantd an app to 'install' for just a single user.. you dont need the deb. you can compile/make/make install, where it goes to  the users own home dir.  the 'Desktop' directory has little to do with it.
[14:12] <ShapeShifter499> ''''''''
[14:12] <yellabs> hello there
[14:12] <ShapeShifter499> sorry I'm trying to fix a key on my keyborad
[14:12] <make> hi yallabs
[14:12] <ShapeShifter499> *board
[14:13] <Dr_Willis> Good Night all.. bed time for this Dr.
[14:13] <ShapeShifter499> nvm
[14:14] <yellabs> does any one know what happened to udevmonitor .. i was doing studies and one of the tasks was using udevmonitor, i noticed its gone and replaced in some way by udevadm monitor
[14:14] <yellabs> will this change stay forever?
[14:14] <yellabs> Trijntje oosterhuis?
[14:14] <yellabs> :)
[14:15] <zaggynl> eh
[14:15] <Trijntje> yellabs: nope :P
[14:15] <yellabs> :P
[14:15] <mrtumtum> hi
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[14:16] <Keiffer> Hi. I am trying to change my resolution with xrandr --output VGA-0 --mode 1152x864 --rate 75 and nothing happens
[14:16] <mrtumtum> gust installed 9.04 on amd quad pheron
[14:16] <sipior> ShapeShifter499: that's quite the string you're trying to escape.
[14:16] <ShapeShifter499> still fixing keys
[14:16] <mrtumtum> adobe flash says arct unsupported?
[14:16] <ShapeShifter499> brb
[14:16] <sipior> ShapeShifter499: could you fix them somewhere else?
[14:16] <yellabs> in offtopic
[14:16] <sipior> or in his own channel, for instance
[14:16] <vigo> ShapeShifter499> Are you using the Keyboard widget on the GUI?
[14:16] <Keiffer> I use 1152x864, by 60 Hz. I want 75 or 80. How can I change that?
[14:17] <mrtumtum> cna smeone give me a link for adobe falsh support for amd64 bit acrh?
[14:17] <mrtumtum> or should I load a 32 bit version of 9.04
[14:17] <yellabs> Keiffer, system preferences screen ?
[14:18] <Keiffer> yellabs, my monitor is detected as 16" and only 60hz for that res
[14:19] <yellabs> http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/
[14:21] <yellabs> Keiffer, whats the video card?
[14:21] <sidp> !ask ff35
[14:21] <sidp> !ask ff3
[14:21] <sidp> !ff35
[14:22] <Keiffer> yellabs Ati Radeon 9500
[14:22] <Trijntje> ﻿Hi all. I have an encrypted usb drive. When i insert it gnome prompts me for the password, but it doesnt mount the drive. How can i make gnome auto mount the encrypted drive?
[14:23] <Keiffer> Trijntje, encrypted with what?
[14:23] <yellabs> Keiffer, i hope you like reading
[14:23] <yellabs> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[14:23] <Keiffer> yellabs, yea, sure
[14:24] <zer0her0> what's the best way to run a remote desktop of ubuntu over a network and the internet, the client will be OS X(leopard/snow leopard)
[14:24] <zer0her0> VNC?
[14:25] <Trijntje> Keiffer: luks
[14:25] <squarebracket> is there a reason firefox 3.5 isn't in ubuntu yet?
[14:25] <heath|work> I thought it was
[14:25] <zer0her0> ubuntu hates ff and ff hates ubuntu?
[14:25] <zer0her0> ;)
[14:25] <Socah> Does anyone know how to start services in background while booting system? For example apache, mysql, noip2 - in Arch that was just adding "@" before service name in /etc/rc.conf, but I can't find any alternative there.
[14:25] <yellabs> next release
[14:25] <Radtoo> zer0her0: that wouldn't be a bad choice, I think.
[14:25] <Pici> !ff35 | squarebracket
[14:25] <zer0her0> Radtoo: ok, hehe what would you suggest :)
[14:26] <squarebracket> thanks for the info, Pici :) I saw it in the repos but was confused why it wasn't the default ff package
[14:26] <Pici> squarebracket: you're welcome
[14:26] <Slart> !boot | Socah
[14:27] <Radtoo> zer0her0: Well, besides VNC I also like NX and RDP...
[14:27] <zer0her0> ah yea NX, it's been a minute since i've used that.
[14:27] <zer0her0> never played much with RDP
[14:27] <Guest51725> how do i log in so im not a guest?
[14:28] <lstarnes> Guest51725: use a nick that isn't registered
[14:28] <lstarnes> Guest51725: or, if you have a registered one, identify to nickserv
[14:28] <Slart> !register | Guest51725
[14:28] <Socah> Slart, this does not help me
[14:28] <Radtoo> zer0her0: VNC is certainly the easiest and most available option but NX / RDP are slightly more performant in most cases. Whether it is worth the effort (or perhaps money, if you would use a commercial solution) of course depends on the details of your connection..
[14:28] <woody_> HI I finally just got good enough with ubuntu to drop windblows completely and can run all linux apps to do everything and more that I use to use under microsoft. BUT I have a laptop with ati 200m witch I think is close to same as r300 chipset, and it is amd 64 cpu witch is all integrated. how soon or will there ever be support for this under ubuntu 9.04 or do I have to go back to windblows and scrap linux now because ATI sucks?
[14:29] <jwfoxjr> Radtoo: speaking of NX have you ever seen NX stop honoring the Controls settings for a desktop theme?  I'm using gnome and the window borders and wallpaper and fonts are correct, but the window (gtk) controls aren't
[14:29] <Socah> Slart, there is not a word about starting services in background while booting
[14:29] <zer0her0> Radtoo: this is a ubuntu box at home, right now i simply ssh into it and happy in the CLI but every now and then I would like to be able to access the GUI/desktop from the office or cafe.
[14:29] <QOOK> [Q] Resolution is the resolution I want in the list. Was good before.
[14:29] <Slart> Socah: ehm.. bum, update-rc.d, /etc/rc.local  doesn't work for you? I must have misunderstood you then.. what is it you want to do?
[14:29] <QOOK> I using xubuntu
[14:30] <vigo> woody_: Have you looked at FSFdirectory?
[14:30] <woody_> FSFdirectory?  no I have not. will it fix  my ati problem?
[14:31] <yellabs> Trijntje , i could not find any answer to your quest < looking at this rather old page on LUKS http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/08/17/7-steps-to-an-encrypted-partition-local-or-removable-disk/
[14:31] <Socah> Slart, bum, update-rc is allowing my to turn off, turn on and change runlevels - I want to run service in background, like when you boot your system and you got turned on mysqld service, but it will start in background (boot process will be not depend of it, and will not wait till mysqld will be started to process to gdm)
[14:31] <Radtoo> zer0her0: I think I'd just deploy VNC and switch only if there's problems. With regards to what VNC client to use, just make sure it was released fairly recently if you don't want to concern yourself with the detailed capabilities of these things (which actually vary quite a bit, some profit from xorg enhancements, others do not and so on)...
[14:31] <Radtoo> jwfoxjr: No, sorry.
[14:32] <yellabs> Trijntje , it does give some insights
[14:32] <Whibo|AFK> huge list of members
[14:32] <Whibo|AFK> huge
[14:32] <hafiztang> hello
[14:32] <Whibo|AFK> :o
[14:32] <zer0her0> Radtoo: yea, vnc seems to be quite the mixed bag, I'll mess with setting up VNC tonight then, thanks for the input :)
[14:32] <vigo> woody_: I am not certain, fsfdirectory is a website for FSF/GNU it lists all the updated stuff , you can also look ak Debian.
[14:32] <hafiztang> is anyone can help me with the installation?
[14:32] <jwfoxjr>  Radtoo: ok, I'll just have to think this one out then - I'm almost wondering if it is an issue in the nx home directory for the nx user
[14:32] <hafiztang> what is the minimum of space do i need to install ubuntu?
[14:33] <QOOK> Help me. I want setting Resolution. but do not exist my Monitor Resolution in Resolution list. Was good before.
[14:33] <Slart> Socah: hmm.. I'm not entirely familiar with exactly how the boot process does it's thing.. you can enable concurrency during boot (there is a switch you can change)... but I'm kind of surprised that running a script in /etc/rc.local which forks off another script stops the boot process
[14:33] <yellabs> hafiztang , 4 gig would be in order, more is better
[14:33] <hafiztang> o ok
[14:33] <Slart> !requirements
[14:33] <hafiztang> @yellabs :im about to install ubuntu
[14:34] <yellabs> in 20 minutes its done..:P
[14:34] <hafiztang> and right now i already have vista
[14:34] <woody_> thanks for tip I will look into that now, really a big fan of ubuntu 9.04 and really hoping I could stick with it if I can fix ATI/AMD fglrx problem
[14:34] <hafiztang> should i make a new partition for ubuntu itself?
[14:34] <QOOK> Was good before.... in same computer.
[14:34] <yellabs> hafiztang , backup is alway' s wise before you start
[14:34] <Radtoo> jwfoxjr: google found this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7736375 ... perhaps it helps
[14:34] <__Lupo__> does anybody know how can I install firefox using apt-get (but choosing the language, i.e pt_BR ) ?
[14:34] <Offoffoff> Who knows, how to ban ctrl+alt+left/right in rdesktop?
[14:34] <crankharder> It's been a month since ff3.5 was released, how come it hasn't been packaged and released to the 9.04 repos?
[14:35] <Socah> Slart, there is example what I would like to do, but it's "outdated" -> http://blog.dotkam.com/2008/08/06/speed-up-ubuntu-boot-time-by-starting-networking-on-the-background/
[14:35] <yellabs> hafiztang , and run livecd to see if all works well, maybe even check cdrom for errors when running the ubuntu livecd..\\
[14:35] <yellabs> its in the main menu
[14:36] <kbp> How to set shortkey to open terminal? For example ctrl + alt + X? I set it age ago and now I install Ubuntu on other machine and cant remember it.
[14:36] <hafiztang> owh ok
[14:36] <yellabs> hafiztang , there are some nice video' s on this topic here : http://screencasts.ubuntu.com/
[14:36] <Slart> Socah: that is "forking off another script".. using &
[14:36] <cory1985> hey, anyone hear know how brighten an avi file from my camcorder to put on a cd?
[14:36] <hafiztang> thx yellabs
[14:36] <Radtoo> crankharder: http://www.asoftsite.org/s9y/archives/161-FAQ-Why-is-my-firefox-3.5-still-called-Shiretoko.html
[14:36] <hafiztang> anyway, im about to make a dual boot
[14:37] <yellabs> yes i understand
[14:37] <hafiztang> some of my working stuff is on windows
[14:37] <Slart> Socah: not everything can be run at the same time though.. some things have to be run after other things..
[14:37] <vusa> hi pple
[14:37] <hafiztang> theres 1 more ques, is this a gud idea if i use C; for windows and E: ubuntu?
[14:38] <crankharder> Radtoo: thanks
[14:38] <dreamborn> Is there .iso mounting software for ubuntu?
[14:38] <Slart> !mountiso
[14:38] <hafiztang> or it still wil conflick each others?
[14:38] <hafiztang> yellabs.. u der?
[14:38] <yellabs> hafiztang , yes fine, for ubuntu it does not matter what disk you give it..
[14:38] <vusa> is there another config file in ubuntu besides /etc/network/interfaces ?
[14:38] <Socah> Slart, thank you for suggestions, I will try to find more informations about this
[14:39] <stephans> where is the internet time in ubuntu 9.04?!?
[14:39] <yellabs> hafiztang , run the livecd and make sure you know wich disk is what
[14:39] <hafiztang> but before this..i did install ubuntu with same disk i install windows.
[14:39] <Slart> Socah: good luck
[14:39] <hafiztang> o ok yellabs
[14:39] <hafiztang> thx for ur ideas
[14:39] <vusa> on my one machine, eth0 is not listed there yet it works fine
[14:39] <stephans> It is no longer in the time setings dialogue
[14:39] <yellabs> !backup
[14:39] <yellabs> hmm
[14:39] <yellabs> !installing
[14:40] <safruhani> hi, i use ext3 , rm -f files, can i recover them ?
[14:40] <yellabs> hafiztang , some tips there
[14:40] <Socah> vusa, propably you are using networkmanager, as far as I know it uses his own configs
[14:40] <hafiztang> yellabs: will check em out
[14:40] <yellabs> !dualboot
[14:40] <yellabs> ah even dual boot is there
[14:40] <stephans> does anyone knjow hoe to setup ntp in 9.04?
[14:41] <om26er> can any1 plz give me a list of video players that operate on gstreamer
[14:41] <Socah> !ntp | stephans
[14:41] <Kottizen> How to make a user admin in Ubuntu server?
[14:41] <Offoffoff> om26er: totem
[14:41] <Socah> Kottizen, for what? You got user "root"
[14:41] <om26er> Offoffoff: totem is not good
[14:42] <Kottizen> Socah: I don't want to login to root every time I want administarte.
[14:42] <yellabs> got to go good luck you all
[14:42] <grawity> om26er: Why not?
[14:42] <Kottizen> administarte*
[14:42] <Offoffoff> om26er: no
[14:42] <Kottizen> administrate**
[14:42] <grawity> Kottizen: Add theuser to 'admin' group.
[14:42] <Kottizen> ok
[14:42] <grawity> Kottizen: adduser username admin, is the simplest way.
[14:42] <vigo> !su
[14:42] <Offoffoff> om26er: but I don't know anything else
[14:42] <Kottizen> adduser: The group `admin' does not exist.
[14:42] <Kottizen> but group "root" exist :D
[14:42] <om26er> grawity: it lacks some main features like crop and ff period is large and does not support to customize keys
[14:42] <grawity> Kottizen: Hmm. Add to /etc/sudoers then?
[14:42] <vigo> Kottizen: root or sudo
[14:43] <grawity> Kottizen: joe ALL=(ALL) ALL
[14:43] <Kottizen> work no
[14:43] <Kottizen> work now
[14:43] <jacobian_> I have a keyboard shortcut for Ctrl-Alt-f and I'm not sure where it comes from
[14:43] <jacobian_> But it interferes with my emacs key-bindings
[14:43] <vigo> Kottizen: But look at and read su
[14:43] <vigo> !su
[14:43] <Kottizen> !sudo
[14:43] <usicow> The user I'm logged in with is a member of groups 'my_account_name' and 'mongrel', I'm trying to create a directory, but I'm getting permission denied. The directory I'm trying to create the subdir in is drwxr-xr-x 15 mongrel mongrel 4096 Aug  5 09:25 rails. What am I doing wrong?
[14:43] <jacobian_> It doesn't appear in the list of keyboard shortcuts in the UI
[14:43] <Kottizen> vigo: ok
[14:43] <jacobian_> Any clues?
[14:44] <grawity> usicow: The group 'mongrel' does not have write rights to the 'raills' directory...
[14:44] <hemanth> !motu
[14:45] <Kottizen> and i have a vps with 256 kb minne. how to install x on it?
[14:45] <usicow> grawity: is the mongrel group the owner of the directory?
[14:45] <grawity> usicow: As you can see yourself, the directory owner is user 'mongrel', and the directory group is group 'mongrel'.
[14:45] <woody_> no luck in FSF directory on ATI support with my 200m.  is there anyone with open source driver that works yet with ubuntu 9.04?
[14:46] <vigo> woody_: let me look at the sites I have bookmarked, I think ATI released that, but am not certain.
[14:46] <c0mrade> hello everybody
[14:46] <stephans> Socah: the instruction on the  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime are false. The information does not match the dialogues present in 9.04.
[14:46] <bjb1959> anyone know the trick to getting the nvidia drivers working in jaunty?
[14:47] <woody_> k
[14:47] <sunyuzh> dajiahao
[14:47] <sunyuzh> 有人马
[14:47] <sunyuzh> ？
[14:47] <rski> !jp
[14:47] <Tamale1> can someone help me understand why I have firefox 3.0 AND firefox 3.5?
[14:47] <Tamale1> and it's called "Shiretoku" ??
[14:47] <grawity> !ff35
[14:47] <rski> Tamale1: 2 separate packages
[14:47] <Tamale1> I just want 3.5
[14:47] <grawity> Tamale1: Read the message from ubottu; it explains why.
[14:47] <marvinp> I'm attempting to disable the shutdown and restart options under Gnome in Ubuntu 9.04 (for normal users).  I've tried changing the permissions on the '/sbin/shutdown' and '/sbin/reboot' to make it ONLY executable by root but that doesn't make a difference since gdm runs under higher privileges.  Any ideas?
[14:48] <sunyuzh> ？？
[14:48] <Slart> Tamale1: you'll have to wait for karmic to come out
[14:48] <Tamale1> everytime I click a link in chat 3.0 launches
[14:48] <Socah> Tamale1, as far as I know, if you remove firefox 3, you loose flash or java - it's in dependiences
[14:48] <stephans> Does anyone know how to change NTP seting in Ubuntu 9.04
[14:48] <Slart> !cn | sunyuzh
[14:48] <QOOK> Help me. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7737404
[14:48] <grawity> marvinp: Try gdmsetup, it allows disabling them.
[14:48] <vigo> woody_: It is in Etch, so I am certain that it is in Jaunty, sorta certain: > http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/ati-200m-fglrx-driver-how-to-debian-etch-512356/
[14:48] <Socah> Tamale1, just set shiretoko as defaults browser, and that's all, 10 additional megabytes doesn't make you difference, right?
[14:49] <Tamale1> Socah: I did set it as my default.. 3.0 still launches
[14:49] <jwfoxjr> Radtoo: thanks - that worked....what search terms did you use in google?  my google-fu sucks sometimes
[14:49] <Syka> Tamale1: Look up Ubuntuzilla, it allows 3.5 (ACTUAL 3.5, not silly Shiretoko) as your main browser
[14:49] <marvinp> grawity: I tried gdm setp but that only disables those options in the initial "login" screen.  I would like them disabled inside gnome as well.  Do you think that's feasible?
[14:49] <Tamale1> Syka: does it handle defaults properly?
[14:49] <Tamale1> lol, why is firefox so integrated into ubuntu like this? seems like ie and windows
[14:49] <Syka> Tamale1: Yep. It replaces 3.0, I'm sure
[14:50] <stephans> CLI information on the documentation site tregarding NTP is wrong as well:
[14:50] <Socah> Tamale1, if you use pidgin or other programs and open links from them, you need to set shiretoko in those programs too (I had set 3.0 in pidgin)
[14:50] <Radtoo> jwfoxjr: nx and gtk theme, I think ...
[14:50] <Syka> Tamale1: You can go apt-get remove firefox...
[14:50] <stephans> ntpdate ntp.ubuntu.com pool.ntp.org
[14:50] <stephans>  5 Aug 08:45:40 ntpdate[28823]: no server suitable for synchronization found
[14:50] <Syka> Tamale1: There's no integration
[14:50] <Tamale1> "if you remove firefox you lose flash and java"
[14:50] <woody_> i will try that and hope for best thanks :)
[14:50] <stephans> indicated servers do not work.
[14:50] <Tamale1> sounds like integration to me
[14:50] <Radtoo> stephans: and if you just specify pool.ntp.org?
[14:50] <grawity> marvinp: Is that for local or remote access?
[14:50] <Syka> Tamale1: No, Flash and Java for Firefox depend, yknow, on firefox
[14:51] <Tamale1> but can i have just 3.5?
[14:51] <stephans> ntpdate pool.ntp.org
[14:51] <stephans>  5 Aug 08:47:38 ntpdate[28831]: no server suitable for synchronization found
[14:51] <Tamale1> as usr/bin/firefox
[14:51] <Syka> Tamale1: Ubuntuzilla lets you
[14:51] <grawity> Tamale1: Just use the Ubuntuzilla tool, like Syka suggested.
[14:51] <stephans> That failed as well...
[14:51] <Tamale1> k i'll check it out
[14:51] <Tamale1> thanks guys
[14:51] <marvinp> grawity: this is for local access to the machine (i.e. desktop users)
[14:51] <Syka> Tamale1: No probs
[14:51] <Tamale1> i'm not trying to start an argument, just frustrated
[14:51] <Syka> x3 I was too
[14:52] <Tamale1> when a new version of firefox comes out, apt-get update should upgrade you
[14:52] <marvinp> grawity: ignore the fact that they can hard-reset the computer for now, I just need to disable reboots and shutdowns in Gnome.. thanks for taking the time btw.
[14:52] <vigo> woody_: 64b or 32?
[14:52] <Tamale1> no questions, no exceptions
[14:52] <bjb1959> anyone know how to get nvidia driver working in ubuntu 9.04?
[14:52] <Syka> Tamale1: Nope
[14:52] <Tamale1> why not?
[14:52] <Tamale1> that's the point of an upgrade, no?
[14:52] <Syka> Tamale1: Ubuntu only has security updates, for maximum stability
[14:52] <Offoffoff> bjb1959: just go to drivers
[14:52] <Tamale1> 3.5 has a boatload of security updates
[14:52] <Slart> Tamale1: that's not the way updates work in ubuntu
[14:52] <igama_> bjb1959, did u use the restricted hardware installer?
[14:52] <Syka> Tamale1: So does 3.0.12
[14:53] <Syka> bjb1959: Add Remove Programs under Applications
[14:53] <igama_> bjb1959, System - Administration - Hardware drivers
[14:53] <Tamale1> so basically, ubuntu thinks 3.0 is 'stable' and 3.5 is experimental?
[14:53] <Slart> Tamale1: the creators of ubuntu wants to do it a different way.. read the link ubottu gives you.. it explains some of it
[14:53] <bjb1959> igama, did all that it doesn't work
[14:53] <Syka> bjb1959: Search nVidia in it
[14:53] <Tamale1> yeah i read it.. just a few chat blurbs
[14:53] <Syka> Tamale1: No, it's because 3.5 is a major release
[14:53] <bjb1959> syka, I know how to do this, did it in hardy and intrepid and it worked fine. it's broken in Jaunty
[14:54] <Syka> bjb1959: Is not, I installed it that way
[14:54] <grawity> marvinp: Ah. In that case, they can still use Alt-SysRq-B to force a reboot, for example. Anyway, there is a gconf key /apps/panel/global -- to disable logout, just set /apps/panel/global/disable_log_out to true (install the gconf-editor package if you need a GUI for that).
[14:54] <Syka> bjb1959: Along with three other computers
[14:54] <bjb1959> for me it's broken
[14:54] <Tamale1> Syka: interesting.. and major releases of projects never show up as upgrades in apt-get ?
[14:54] <Syka> Tamale1: Not until the next Ubuntu release
[14:54] <marvinp> grawity: thanks so much, I
[14:54] <marvinp> grawity: thanks so much, I'll give that a shot.
[14:55] <techie> ALL: how do I stop ubuntu from automatically checking updates
[14:55] <Syka> bjb1959: Have you picked the right one?
[14:55] <QOOK> Help me. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7737436
[14:55] <frogzoo> techie: option in synaptic
[14:55] <Slart> techie: system, administration, software sources.. there are some switches
[14:55] <Tamale1> Syka: Ok, thanks.. just glad to have a real explanation.. it seems kinda silly but I guess that makes sense :)
[14:55] <bjb1959> syka, I have re-installed jaunty 3 times today so far and after installing upgrades and re-booting then using the recomended driver X won't start after reboot unless I change driver back to "nv"
[14:55] <Syka> techie: Go to Update Manager > Settings
[14:55] <Tamale1> Syka: Should I remove shiretoku before installing ubuntuzilla ?
[14:56] <Syka> Tamale1: Doesn't matter, I have both installed
[14:56] <woody_> 64 bit amd on lance armstrong edition HP laptop l2000, running 9.04 32 bit version
[14:56] <Tamale1> Syka: I'm a bit low on disk space
[14:56] <Tamale1> this will pull my profile, right?
[14:56] <olinuxx> yep'
[14:56] <woody_> has 200m ati integrated
[14:56] <Syka> Tamale1: Yep
[14:56] <Tamale1> k thanks
[14:58] <vigo> woody_: Found two that say it works in 9.04, http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/legacy/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.7&product=2.7.4.3.3.3.1&lang=English
[14:58] <Tamale1> oh cool, it backs up 3.0 :D
[14:58] <Tamale1> another win for python
[14:58] <vigo> woody_: and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1137467
[14:58] <techie> ALL: how often does ubuntu releases updates for desktops ?
[14:59] <Offoffoff> every 6 monthes
[14:59] <Halabund> Rhythmbox comes with some radio stations already bookmarked, for example, 'NRK Alltid Klassisk'.  Whenever I try to listen to this radio channel, the player stops after 2-3 minutes with the message 'internal dataflow error'.  I used to listen to this channel (exact same vorbis stream) with other players on Windows, and never had any problems.  Any suggestions for fixing this (or for alternative Gnome media players)?
[14:59] <bjb1959> syka, did you see my last response?
[14:59] <woody_> k I will check out both and thanks again for your help..am still big fan of linux and dont want to have to be forced back to windblows
[15:00] <freazer> Hello! I have perfectly cloned two drives for purposes of mdraid, but I am noticing file corruption with raid mirroring. I've decided not to use it, but now I've noticed my devices in in "blkid" are marked as mdraid despite having formatted them repeatedly using cfdisk - how do I set these devices properly to ext3 and generate unique UUIDs for them again? I have tried Gparted but it doesn't change this mdraid type behavior or assig
[15:01] <ltcabral> do anyone know a good open source software to register clients, products using database and is usable by a normal person?
[15:01] <dare> compiz just forze my laptop display
[15:01] <dare> froze*
[15:01] <dare> but i can still ssh it
[15:01] <bjb1959> anyone know how to get the nvidia driver working after installing through the restricted drivers manager. after I re-boot I get errors that the nvidia device failed to initiate and I have to change driver back to "nv" to make it work
[15:01] <dare> what can i try to fix it?
[15:01] <dare> /etc/init.d/gdm restart and killall -9 gnome-session did not help
[15:01] <vigo> woody_: You are very welcome, and those last two I posted are the fix for 9,04, which is soon to be 9.10, so look at launchpad and see if the fixes or updates are there yet, if they are not, please make the situation known.
[15:02] <firecrotch> dare: killall -9 compiz.real
[15:02] <dare> nor did modprobe -r radeon and rmmod -f radeon
[15:02] <Tamale1> Syka: links still open 3.0 :(
[15:02] <firecrotch> if compiz is still running, that is
[15:02] <dare> no process killed firecrotch
[15:02] <Syka> Tamale1: Even after? Hm
[15:02] <dare> nope
[15:02] <Syka> bjb1959: No, i did not x3
[15:03] <Tamale1> Syka:  Yeah, ubuntuzilla finished
[15:03] <firecrotch> dare: sudo reboot  ;)
[15:03] <dare> so the graphics hardware is in inaccessible state now? :(
[15:03] <freazer> I have found information on assigning a new UUID to ext volumes via here http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-679144.html - but I am still unable to get blkid to recognize that these are no longer mdraid type, despite changing their type using fdisk - what am I missing?
[15:03] <Syka> Tamale1: Hmm. Not sure about that one. Did it exit oddly?
[15:03] <firecrotch> dare: most likely
[15:04] <dare> hm Xorg is still running and using 100% cpu, how do i stop it
[15:04] <Kottizen> what's the name of x package?
[15:04] <Syka> bjb1959: Install a different version, or compile/install from nVidia themselves
[15:04] <dare> kill -9 pid does not kill it
[15:05] <bjb1959> Syka, I tried that but nothing seems to work
[15:05] <badlo> I have installed Ubuntu, how do uninstall gnome because i want to use xfce instead.. Is there any easy remove command for it?
[15:05] <Syka> bjb1959: Okay, firstly, what system is this?
[15:05] <Tamale1> Syka: No, looked good
[15:05] <Tamale1> Syka: Said it installed 3.5.2
[15:05] <zimbres> Hi, I opened a file with vim, and then I removed it with rm, now I am not been able to save, and not even kill its process with kill ID, how do I get rid of it?
[15:05] <jado> hi, how can you count the number of lines of the output of a program with a command line?
[15:05] <freazer> badlo: Have you tried Xubuntu?
[15:05] <Syka> Tamale1: Give it another shot...
[15:05] <bjb1959> amd 64 dual core, 4 gb ram msi motherboard nvidia 7300
[15:05] <zimbres> jado, ls | wc -l
[15:05] <Syka> Tamale1: You used sudo, right?
[15:05] <Tamale1> Yup
[15:05] <jado> zimbres: thans
[15:06] <jado> thanks*
[15:06] <Tamale1> and weirdly, /usr/bin/firefox now references 3.5.2
[15:06] <Syka> Tamale1: Hmm... You have FF open?
[15:06] <dare> any suggests to kill Xorg?
[15:06] <Tamale1> Syka: Nope.  But I have an idea
[15:06] <Syka> bjb1959: Custom build?
[15:06] <helo> hmm... after doing an update in the last week or so, it seems that some of my gnome preferences have been lost (gnome-terminal, my keyring)
[15:06] <badlo> freazer: Nope, It is the same but it runs Xfce... I just want to remove gnome from ubuntu when i already downloaded xfce
[15:06] <Tamale1> Syka: when I run sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser, I don't have /usr/bin/firefox as an option
[15:06] <Tamale1> Syka: Only /usr/bin/firefox-3.0 and 3.5
[15:07] <Syka> dare: control-alt-f4, log in as root, killall *username*
[15:07] <freazer> dare: Have you tried ctrl-alt-backspace ? this should kill your x session and kick you to a fresh restarted login
[15:07] <bjb1959> yes, but I have had Hardy and Intrepid on the same machine no problems and the driver was working when I upgraded from intrepid to Jaunty but not on fresh install
[15:07] <Slart> !nozap | freazer
[15:07] <Syka> dare: Or that
[15:07] <Slart> !dontzap | freazer
[15:07] <dare> freazer, nope.. there is no gnome session anymore
[15:07] <dare> just a frozen display before compiz crashed
[15:07] <dare> i am logged in via ssh
[15:07] <dare> and Xorg cannot be killed
[15:07] <dare> gdm/gnome-session are both killed
[15:07] <Syka> well
[15:07] <rek> HELP          Xsession: waring:unable to write to /tmp: ;Xsession may exit with an error.
[15:08] <Syka> force it
[15:08] <Syka> xD
[15:08] <dare> how?
[15:08] <Syka> well
[15:08] <freazer> --force of course!
[15:08] <freazer> kill --for_serious
[15:08] <Syka> pgrep it
[15:08] <Tamale1> Syka: Got it.  Set the default with the update-alternatives tool to epiphany-gecko
[15:08] <Tamale1> Syka: Now links open 3.5.2
[15:08] <Syka> then kill pid
[15:08] <dare> -force invalid signal specification
[15:08] <Syka> Tamale1: Ah. I have no idea what that is, but well done x3.
[15:08] <dare> Syka, yes
[15:09] <grawity> dare: He meant kill -9
[15:09] <firecrotch> dare: kill -9 pid
[15:09] <dare> i run kill -9 13229 as root
[15:09] <dare> but it does not die
[15:09] <Syka> well
[15:09] <Syka> use the "I win" button
[15:09] <Syka> that'll fix it
[15:09] <Tamale1> Syka: It's a command line tool for setting your default browser.. very useful for troubleshooting problems like this.  http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/set-the-default-browser-on-ubuntu-from-the-command-line/
[15:09] <dare> and have to restart all those services on reboot? no thanks :P
[15:09] <Tamale1> Syka: Maybe we could add that to the ubuntu bot
[15:09] <bjb1959> Syka, any ideas?
[15:09] <grawity> dare: If the victim is vi/vim, it is probably killed, but has not restored the terminal's state. So it's just the leftovers of vim.
[15:10] <dare> why wont xorg die!! :(
[15:10] <Syka> bjb1959: Hmm... you sure your installing the 64bit version?
[15:10] <dare> it's at the top of top, using 100% cpu even after i kill -9 it :(
[15:10] <Syka> bjb1959: Might want to check, I've done it before xD
[15:10] <bjb1959> I am installing the 32 bit version, don't want 64
[15:11] <freazer> dare you didn't ssh -X did you? ^^;; this problem is very strange..
[15:11] <Syka> bjb1959: So you have 32bit Ubuntu? hm
[15:11] <bjb1959> Yes
[15:11] <Brazz> hey guys, I'm having difficulties finding the driver for my Mobility Radeon 9200, anyone that could help me with that?
[15:11] <Trijntje> ﻿Hi all. I have an encrypted usb drive. When i insert it gnome prompts me for the password, but it doesnt mount the drive. How can i make gnome auto mount the encrypted drive?
[15:11] <kamen> I installed fglrx and I've got the "unsupported hardware" watermark stuck on my screen
[15:12] <Syka> bjb1959: What does System > Admin > Hardware Drivers say?
[15:12] <Brazz> none?
[15:13] <zachary> ls
[15:13] <zachary> oops :(
[15:13] <Brazz> are you talking to me Syka?
[15:13] <Syka> Brazz: No, but that could solve your problem
[15:13] <Brazz> that's the thing Syka
[15:13] <bjb1959> Syka, It gives me choice of versions 180, 173 and 96 but none of them work
[15:13] <Brazz> when I go in Hardware Drivers
[15:13] <Brazz> nothing shows
[15:13] <Brazz> its a blank screen there for me
[15:13] <o123hallo> hm
[15:14] <Brazz> I'm using 9.04 btw
[15:14] <o123hallo> i hid the menu in xchat
[15:14] <o123hallo> how can i make them visible again?
[15:14] <jabagawee_> what does ubiquity do after the grub install, just wondering?
[15:14] <Syka> brazz: Okay, go Applications > Add/Remove and search for ATI
[15:14] <Brazz> aye
[15:14] <Syka> Brazz: "radeon" is a better search
[15:15] <Brazz> the thing is Syka...
[15:15] <Brazz> ... Mobility Radeon 9200 only recognizes an older version of the drivers out there, it must be a catalyst driver before catalyst 5.6 or catalyst 5.6
[15:15] <o123hallo> can anyone tell me, why xubuntu does not recognise the newer vlc (e.g.) version as newer?
[15:15] <Brazz> and there's no such option available for download to linux
[15:16] <fortunev> hen using the screen application my backspace key is not working. ^H works, but backspace does nothing. Any ideas how I can fix this?
[15:16] <freazer> thanks all... I tried some of the probe tools and reset blkid cache and I seem to have fixed my own problem.. if anybody asks have them delete /etc/blkid.tab
[15:16] <Syka> brazz: Oh? Surely the FOSS version could support
[15:16] <Brazz> this is what happens when I install any of those versions for my driver available
[15:16] <suigeneris> why does the touchpad get enabled automatically a while after I disable it using gsynaptics?
[15:16] <zachary> anyone know why I am getting this message: chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory
[15:16] <Brazz> once I reboot my system
[15:16] <zachary> bash is indeed installed
[15:16] <Brazz> the screen freezes before the loggin screen
[15:17] <Brazz> and I have to reinstall the OS to get it running properly again
[15:17] <Brazz> so I started to ask around instead of trying to find solutions for myself
[15:17] <Syka> Brazz: ...hmm
[15:17] <Brazz> because my experience is 0 with linux
[15:17] <grawity> zachary: bash must be in the chroot too.
[15:17] <foormea> hi
[15:17] <Syka> brazz: Technically, you can run X without your drivers
[15:17] <zachary> grawity: ah
[15:18] <woody_> this may be fun I will try downloading ubuntu 9.10 alpha 1. I have a spare 40 gig drive I will pop into my laptop and test it with my ati 200 m graphics and see if I get lucky......wish me luck :)
[15:18] <foormea> my current hardware clock is set to local time. i want to change it to UTC and have my system adjust my local time to my timezone. do you know how to do that? i'm only finding info dating back from 2007 on the internet...
[15:18] <Syka> Brazz: But it will be slow. And you won't get wobbly windows
[15:18] <Syka> foormea: 2007 is still relevant
[15:18] <Brazz> well I have tryed these guides here
[15:19] <Brazz> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=892830
[15:19] <Brazz> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1130582
[15:19] <foormea> Syka: oh hahaha you know what... i'm such an idiot.. i was looking for the file they talk about, /etc/default/rcS in another distro...
[15:19] <Brazz> both causes my screen to freeze
[15:19] <foormea> sorry my mistake
[15:19] <erUSUL> foormea: edit /etc/default/rcS if i recall corrctly
[15:19] <foormea> erUSUL: correct
[15:19] <foormea> sorry :) i'm a bit of an idiot sometimes!!
[15:20] <foormea> another question that i have: what exactly is rtc (real time clock)?
[15:20] <kamen> I cannot seem to find ANY support at all for the radeon HD 4200 chipset, for windows or linux, at any site
[15:20] <erUSUL> foormea: hardware on you motherboard/cpu
[15:21] <kamen> even amd
[15:21] <foormea> erUSUL: is it a bad thing not to have it enabled on a system?
[15:21] <Brazz> :Syka: you know sometimes I like to do some gaming, but I'm afraid that without the drivers for my videocard it will be impossible to run anygame on Ubuntu
[15:21] <urthmover> In ubuntu is there a way to disable the ability to charge a laptop battery (using software)?
[15:21] <linxing> what
[15:21] <Gnea> urthmover: no.
[15:21] <grawity> urthmover: I think that entirely depends on hardware.
[15:21] <urthmover> basically keep it plugged in but not charge a battery
[15:21] <thebishop> i think a recent update broke support for VIA unichrome video devices.  I get a blank screen when GDM tries to load
[15:22] <erUSUL> foormea: welll bad... the time will be inaccureate i guess
[15:22] <linxing> what kind of your videocard
[15:22] <urthmover> grawity: hmm
[15:22] <urthmover> ok Gnea
[15:22] <thebishop> linxeh, it's a VIA Unichrome
[15:23] <foormea> ok erUSUL i'll look into that
[15:23] <dare> anybody know how to kill Xorg?
[15:23] <dare> kill -9 xorg_pid as root does not kill it
[15:23] <urthmover> dare: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[15:23] <dare> it's parent process is pid 1, /sbin/init.. so i cannot kill that
[15:23] <firecrotch> dare: well you *could* kill it
[15:24] <dare> yeah, all window managers/login managers are dead
[15:24] <firecrotch> would probably solve the problem :)
[15:24] <new2linx> howdy everyone, how do i get media folders to show up on the desktop of mythbuntu like they automagically do in ubuntu?
[15:24] <dare> 100% cpu usage is not reason enough to reboot!
[15:25] <new2linx> i tried dragging a folder from thunar but that didn't work
[15:27] <mrwes> I just installed a program from the source code, using checkinstall, since I used checkintall I can remove the source correct?
[15:27] <psypher246> hi all, having some weird issue with ssh key authentication, could some pls assist. no matter what i do it won't work wither way and i have setup this before and it works fine, must be missing something, thanks
[15:27] <leaf-sheep> How would you solve an issue where all startup services get executed twice at bootup?
[15:27] <gs94> guys, how do I extract the boot sector from an ISO file ?
[15:27] <nariman> can someone tell me wht network manager version is in 8.10??
[15:28] <FabParma> I'd like to create a router that has the capability setup a chain of anonymous WAN proxies. Have you idea if there is something alredy made (pacages or others)?
[15:28] <new2linx> howdy everyone, how do i get media folders to show up on the desktop of mythbuntu like they automagically do in ubuntu?
[15:28] <dare> crappy radeon driver :-\
[15:28] <Brazz> Hi I'm having some troubles sorting out my videocard driver, anyone here that could help me with this matter?
[15:28] <dare> i think that is the reason i will have to restart my server :(
[15:29] <firecrotch> dare: why does your server have X installed?
[15:29] <dare> because it's a hybrid server/emergency desktop!!
[15:30] <new2linx> Candle600, im in the private chat but you're not saying anything.
[15:30] <frogzoo> gs94: depends how much of it you need, but use dd
[15:30] <firecrotch> dare: pfft who needs a GUI on their desktop
[15:31] <gs94> frogzoo: well, i want to dump an ISO to my flash drive
[15:31] <dare> :P
[15:31] <new2linx> is there a good app to cut down on all the none needed apps that start with mythbuntu? it's basically a file server, http server, and mythtv backend so there's some stuff that sucking virtual memory per top that I don't want to run but not sure if I need it. like xfce4-panel for example
[15:31] <dare> anyway, it appears there is nothing i can do but reboot
[15:32] <vigo> On VOIP and such, Do I just rm Ekiga and install Empathy/Telepathy now?
[15:32] <dare> but afterwards i will remove this unstable X!
[15:32] <frogzoo> gs94: there's a ubuntu help doc on how to setup bootable flash drives, dd'ing the boot sector won't do it
[15:32] <gs94> frogzoo: oh, ok thanks
[15:32] <leaf-sheep> Anybody experienced with bootup services?  For some reason, I'm getting bootup services executed twices.  Any suggestion and referral would be great.
[15:33] <asusx81> hi all
[15:33] <jado> hi, how do you sort the output of a file by eliminating duplicates?
[15:33] <dare> hm if i restart it, i'll lose my irc connection :''(
[15:33] <grawity> jado: sort | uniq
[15:33] <kamen> Do drivers exist for radeon HD 4200 graphics?
[15:33] <jado> grawity: thanks
[15:33] <dare> don't use radeon driver!
[15:34] <dare> it just crashed my server :(
[15:34] <iceroot> dare: server + radeon???
[15:34] <dare> yes!!!!!!!!!!!!
[15:34] <iceroot> dare: server = no gui :)
[15:34] <grawity> iceroot: Who said you have to access a server remotely?
[15:34] <kamen> dare: what radeon card you got?
[15:34] <dare> idk
[15:34] <iceroot> grawity: who said you need x on a server?
[15:34] <dare> but yes, no more gui after this
[15:34] <Syka> o.o
[15:35] <dare> when my desktop ubuntu goes down..
[15:35] <dare> i'll have to do my troubleshooting in links :(
[15:35] <Syka> Wait, I didn't think many people used Ubuntu server
[15:35] <JEEBsv> Ubuntu server 9.04 was rather nice to set up
[15:35] <Syka> I use centos, personally
[15:35] <Syka> for servers
[15:35] <MaskedDriver> I use 8.04 on my server
[15:35] <C-S-B> ive made drastic alterations to the standard desktop mode of my UNR install. Should i select netbook mode, will the alterations stick?
[15:35] <iceroot> Syka: i think for servers, debian is more used then ubuntu-server but both are nice
[15:36] <Syka> Ubuntu is nice as an all round desktop and server if required
[15:36] <Syka> but that's the beauty of Linux - if it doesn't work, try another distro
[15:36] <grawity> If _that_ doesn't work, try thermite.
[15:36] <kamen> I'm using fglrx and got the unsupported hardware watermark. I saw a few forum posts about downgrading to a lower version of fglrx but I cant find any period, let alone ones that support my chipset
[15:37] <Guest26287> hi
[15:37] <iceroot> Syka: i like debian stable on a server more then debian unstable (from which ubuntu is using programs) but i think some people think different on that and like the easy way of ubuntu for a server
[15:38] <Benny100> can someone help me?
[15:38] <Catalin205> hello
[15:38] <iceroot> !ask | Benny100
[15:38] <Catalin205> How do I uninstall postfix mail server from my ubuntu server
[15:38] <rsnake> Hello! I recently got MATLAB for Ubuntu, and I was wondering which would be the location to install it in?
[15:38] <iceroot> Catalin205: sudo apt-get remove postfix
[15:38] <Syka> iceroot: They use unstable apps? Hm.
[15:38] <iceroot> Syka: ubuntu = debian unstable
[15:39] <jrib> rsnake: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MATLAB
[15:39] <iceroot> Syka: and sometimes sid also
[15:39] <Benny100> Ok well ive just recieved an ubunti 9.04 cd and im trying to get it to work as a live cd so i can test it out without loosing anything on xp. But when i restart my computer to get it to work as said in the instructions it doesnt work.
[15:39] <Syka> iceroot: Really? I thought 9.04 was based off Lenny
[15:39] <lstarnes> iceroot: sid is debian unstable
[15:39] <Kazriko> ~= debian unstable. It's a stabilized version of debian unstable. :)
[15:39] <Catalin205> How do I uninstall postfix mail server from my ubuntu server  ... I want to use qmail instead
[15:39] <iceroot> lstarnes: no, sid is debian testing (imo)
[15:39] <Syka> Benny100: Check your bios settings
[15:39] <psypher246> hi all, having some weird issue with ssh key authentication, could some pls assist. no matter what i do it won't work wither way and i have setup this before and it works fine, must be missing something
[15:39] <lstarnes> iceroot: that's a fact, not an opinion
[15:39] <Syka> Benny100: Most motherboards allow hitting F12 for a boot menu
[15:39] <burkmat> Catalin205: iceroot already answered. `sudo apt-get remove postfix`
[15:39] <grawity> psypher246: Okay, how exactly did you set up?
[15:40] <Benny100> ok ill try that now thanks
[15:40] <lstarnes> iceroot: sid is unstable, squeeze is the current testing
[15:40] <Catalin205> ohhhh thx a lot ... do I need to use the cd ?
[15:40] <Syka> iceroot: Sid is unstable, as Sid is the mentally unstable toy-killer out of Toy Story
[15:40] <psypher246> grawity: on server ran ssh-keygen -t rsa, created keys without pw
[15:40] <burkmat> Catalin205: Nope, you're just removing things.
[15:40] <grawity> psypher246: So far okay (though rsa is already default)
[15:40] <psypher246> grawity: copy id_rsa.pub to client. cat id_rsa.pub >> authtorized_keys2
[15:41] <Catalin205> and when I install the qmail ? do I have to use the cd ?
[15:41] <iceroot> lstarnes: Syka yes, unstable = sid = base of ubuntu packages
[15:41] <grawity> psypher246: Still sounds good (though recent OpenSSH versions use simply 'authorized_keys')
[15:41] <rsnake> Thanks for the link
[15:41] <iceroot> Catalin205: sudo apt-get install qmail
[15:41] <grawity> Catalin205: I'm not sure Qmail is in the CD -- you will probably need to download it; Ubuntu will do it automatically.
[15:41] <iceroot> Catalin205: you are using the repos, not the cd
[15:41] <Catalin205> I am away from my server that's why i'm asking if I whould use the cd ?
[15:41] <burkmat> grawity: Isn't "authorized_keys" for SSH1 and 2 for 2?
[15:42] <Catalin205> ohhh  ok
[15:42] <psypher246> grawity: tried that too, no dice
[15:42] <Catalin205> thx a lot for the help
[15:42] <DaveyG> Has anyone got any experience of replacing the installer kernel? Our systems are using Hardy for the LTS, but the newest batch of desktops have hardware that isn't supported. Jaunty installs fine, but we don't want to upgrade all packages just to get the thing installed. Is it possible to use Jaunty's kernel for a Hardy netboot/pre-seed install?
[15:42] <mizipzor> using lspci, i know which graphic card i have... how can i find out which drivers (if any) are installed for it and which one (if any) is currently in use?
[15:42] <iceroot> Catalin205: but i would use postfix, if i am correct its the standard mta from ubuntu and i like it very much
[15:43] <psypher246> burkmat: i thought so too
[15:43] <grawity> burkmat: Since SSHv1 is so terribly insecure and outdated, nobody uses it anymore.
[15:43] <Syka> DaveyG: Update the kernel in Synaptic - but I'm not sure if it goes to .14
[15:43] <grawity> burkmat: So OpenSSH just uses that file for _both_ types of keys.
[15:43] <Catalin205> I just can't comnfigure the maps for virtual domains
[15:43] <Polarina> I just installed Ubuntu 9.04, did all the security updates and rebooted. Now I cannot install the restricted driver. After I click "Activate", it says "Downloading and installing drivers..." for few seconds and then disappears and nothing happens. I can connect to the internet from the fresh installation (IPv4 and IPv6 via autoconfiguration).
[15:43] <grawity> psypher246: In the server, can you check /var/log/auth.log?
[15:43] <DaveyG> Syka: We need 2.6.28> for the hardware which isn't listed as available for Hardy 8.04.3
[15:43] <iceroot> !who | Catalin205
[15:43] <fumblnoob> psypher246: what are the permissions on your .ssh directory?  should be 700 or it won't work
[15:44] <Syka> DaveyG: Is it possible to get a .tar.gz? Then the ./configure, make, make install?
[15:45] <psypher246> grawity: did tail -f /var/log/auth.log nothing popped up while i tried to connect only once i entered the password
[15:45] <DaveyG> Syka: I have a working kernel, The problem is a matter of getting it into the installer.
[15:45] <psypher246> fumblnoob: yeah all files in .ssh are 600
[15:45] <Syka> DaveyG: Oh, into the installer
[15:45] <psypher246> tried 700 also
[15:46] <psypher246> lemme try again
[15:46] <Catalin205> iceroot: Can you please help me configure postfix then ? I don't know how to setup the virtual domains maps
[15:46] <Delvien> Has anyone had any luck getting an IronKey working in ubuntu? its not creating the fake cd drive
[15:46] <fumblnoob> psypher246 and the directory itself is?
[15:46] <grawity> psypher246: ~/.ssh must be 0700, all files inside -- 0600.
[15:46] <grawity> psypher246: Also, try connecting with ssh -v
[15:47] <Syka> DaveyG: If you have some Synaptic-installable tools, you can make a CD image of a given installation... but I'm not sure if that's what you want
[15:47] <grawity> iceroot: Umm. I thought exim4 is the standard MTA on Ubuntu?
[15:47] <DaveyG> Syka: As in turn a working desktop installation into CD?
[15:48] <babyshambles> hi guys, i just got eee pc and i want to copy my music folder from my ubuntu pc into it, i do right click-properties-share install samba but i couldn't find it on my network. did i miss sth?
[15:48] <Catalin205> Can anyone help me configure postfix ? in provate chat ?
[15:48] <Syka> DaveyG: Yep
[15:48] <Syka> DaveyG: But there is also mod-a-existing CD ones
[15:48] <burkmat> babyshambles: if it's not too big, just tar it and ftp?
[15:49] <psypher246> grawity:  k did the permissions, still not
[15:49] <DaveyG> Syka: Cheers, I'll have a look into that
[15:49] <grawity> psypher246: ssh -v on the client, tail -f /var/log/{syslog,auth.log} on the server?
[15:49] <psypher246> grawity: k gimme a sec
[15:50] <babyshambles> burkmat: i'm using ubuntu netbook remix and i want to transfer via LAN cable, actually it's about 60 GB. what should i do?
[15:50] <Syka> DaveyG: Problem is, from existing installs the CD would be GB's upon GB's... what are you using as the netboot? Clonezilla to make an image, or the Ubuntu CD itself?
[15:50] <Syka> babyshambles: External HDD's work a treat
[15:51] <lenny0815> Anyone who can explain to me how to enable cut&paste for seahorse password entry? Vanilla Ubuntu 9.04, seahorse 2.26.1.
[15:51] <burkmat> babyshambles: by LAN cable do you mean computer---computer or are they networked?
[15:52] <grawity> lenny0815: I haven't seen a password entry box that would support copying. But you should be able to paste normally.
[15:52] <lenny0815> grawity: That is the problem. I cannot paste.
[15:53] <grawity> lenny0815: How are you pasting -- Ctrl-V, or middle-click?
[15:53] <psypher246> grawity: nothing came up on the logs. here is ssh -v http://paste.ubuntu.com/248047/
[15:53] <lenny0815> grawity: pasting is disabled. That really ... well, it is unpleasant to manually copy complicated random passphrases from KeePassX.
[15:53] <babyshambles> burkmat: i mean from my ubuntu pc to my eee pc using LAN cable.
[15:53] <lenny0815> grawity: I tried both. Neither works.
[15:54] <Nyha> Is it just me or is archives.canonical.com realy realy realy slow?
[15:54] <lenny0815> grawity: I was wondering if this was on purpose but I cannot think of any security risk *pasting* into a pw entry box.
[15:55] <grawity> lenny0815: And you can paste the same thing anywhere else?
[15:55] <grawity> if yes - strange.
[15:55] <Guiri> Hi. I'm installing Ubuntu using the encrypted LVM. Any way to require a USB key to boot? Maybe by moving the .key over to it or something?
[15:55] <lenny0815> grawity: Sure. KeePassX works fine anywhere (on Firefox for example) but not in seahorse and therefore not in Evolution (which seems to use seahorse).
[15:55] <lenny0815> grawity: But I require pgp keys in Evolution.
[15:56] <lenny0815> grawity: hence the question here :)
[15:56] <grawity> ... I just wonder why don't you use a passphrase that you can type manually ...
[15:57] <sipior> lenny0815: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/seahorse/+bug/238954
[15:57]  * grawity tries to paste something to Seahorse password box.
[15:57] <lenny0815> sipior: Just found it myself :(
[15:58] <sipior> lenny0815: for what it's worth, i happen to think the argument given by the upstream folks is fairly nonsensical.
[15:58] <lenny0815> sipior: Indeed.
[15:58] <lenny0815> sipior: It makes the use of password managers ... cumbersome to say the least.
[15:59] <RorTez> How eas is to set up a Server ?
[15:59] <RorTez> newbie  here
[15:59] <lenny0815> sipior: I will try my luck and mention it to "upstream" again. Maybe they will add it at some point.
[15:59] <lenny0815> thanks for the help!
[15:59] <sipior> lenny0815: i hope they do, good luck
[16:00] <sipior> RorTez: what sort of server?
[16:00] <RorTez> sipior: what I want is to host internal applications (web applications)
[16:01] <RorTez> Is a Ruby on Rails app
[16:01] <RorTez> so the set up will be Ubuntu server version
[16:01] <RorTez> I think I will need a web server too right ?
[16:01] <Catalin205> is anyone here able to help me install a working mail server on my ubuntu server ?
[16:02] <RorTez> Apache ?
[16:02] <sipior> well, to answer your original question, it's quite straightforward to set up a web server running Rails under ubuntu.
[16:02] <RorTez> sipior:  ok ...and how do I do that and what I need
[16:02] <sipior> RorTez: finding a link or two now...
[16:03] <sipior> RorTez: start here, i think: https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/index.html
[16:04] <joeyeye> Catalin205: cehck out the ubuntu forums for postfix/dovecot install - lots of help there
[16:04] <Catalin205> thx will do that
[16:05] <psypher246> grawity: just tried from another machine and same issue so it must be a server issue not client
[16:06] <Trijntje> ﻿Hi all. I have an encrypted usb drive. When i insert it gnome prompts me for the password, but it doesnt mount the drive. How can i make gnome auto mount the encrypted drive?
[16:06] <mizipzor> how do i find out which version of the graphical driver is installed!
[16:06] <mizipzor> ?*
[16:06] <rski> mizipzor: search for it in synaptic and rightclick it
[16:07] <darkhamm> how can i check an ntfs partition?
[16:07] <apple> hi
[16:08] <Radtoo> darkhamm: windows is best at checking ntfs, its its own fs.
[16:08] <leaf-sheep> Anybody experienced with bootup services?  For some reason, I'm getting bootup services executed twices.  Any suggestion and referral would be great.
[16:08] <grawity> darkhamm: The most reliable way is to use Windows for that :) (All Windows 2000/XP/Vista install CDs have a "recovery console" and a chkdsk command there.) I'm not sure if fsck.ntfs has ever existed.
[16:12] <mizipzor> rski: what should i search for?
[16:12] <psypher246> grawity: i have to get going, thanks for the assistance so far, i will have to take it up again tomorrow
[16:13] <DaveyG> Syka: At the moment I have the Hardy PXEBoot image, which is just a kernel and an initrd.gz  This points at a preseed.cfg and a local mirror of Hardy. The problem is that this kernel is too old for our latest batch of desktops
[16:15] <Roland> !offtopic
[16:15] <imrann> How do I blacklist the beeping sound from the pc speaker?
[16:15] <Guiri> Oh good. So I can expect support about my encryption question fired off about 15 minutse ago
[16:16] <leaf-sheep> imrann: sudo rmmod pcspkr
[16:17] <bigos> i tried to upgrade to kde4.3, but there is an error i cant understand... it says that dpgk tried to overwrite "/usr/lib/libkephal" that exist also in kde-workspace-bin... and it occurs while trying to install kde-workspace-dev_4%3a4.3.0-0ubuntu1~jaunty1~ppa4_amd64.deb
[16:17] <imrann> leaf-sheep, to make it stay like that do i put that into blacklist conf?
[16:17] <bigos> apt-get -f install doesnt help
[16:17] <piroko> What the fuck does gdm use for it's "Xclient" script? I've tried .xinitrc, .Xclient, .Xclients, and either way it still launches effing gnome
[16:18] <woody_> cool I am now  registered ubuntu user :)  if I dual boot ubuntu 9.10 alpha 3 and my current ubuntu 9.04 and I have problems with the 9.10 alpha 3 can I kill the partition and 9.10 alpha 3 from my current 9.04 witch is installed now?
[16:18] <Offoffoff> woody_: check where is your GRUB at first
[16:18] <imrann> Still need help blacklisting pc speaker
[16:19] <Offoffoff> imrann: Just take scissors and cut wires
[16:19] <woody_> I figure that the 9.10 alpha 3 will set up grub and boot options right?
[16:19] <the_dark_warrio> I want to add a radio into rhythmbox which is a .wma stream. Rhythmbox says it doesn't have the correct decoder. Any tips?
[16:19] <imrann> offoffoff, non invasive is prefered.
[16:19] <ongolaBoy> hi everybody.in the mailing-list, i know the url of list administrator *but* what about list moderator ?
[16:20] <piroko> Forget it. I just stopped gdm permanently.
[16:20] <Trijntje> imrann: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist add pcspkr
[16:20] <Offoffoff> the_dark_warrio: install codecs. in gstreamer
[16:21] <Offoffoff> the_dark_warrio: Use synaptic, Luke!
[16:21] <wizz> i has already install windows before, and i wanna delete its partition that appear in my file browser. but how?
[16:21] <Trijntje> imrann: add the line "blacklist pcspkr"
[16:21] <Trijntje> !gparted|wizz
[16:21] <woody_> I have a laptop , would I just be better off trying 9.10 alpha 3 on a spare drive and not dual booting?
[16:22] <the_dark_warrio> Offoffoff: I guess I installed every available plugin from the official repo
[16:22] <hdon> can anyone tell me why this test program fails to compile?
[16:22] <hdon> #include <sys/types.h>
[16:22] <hdon> blksize_t test() {return 0;}
[16:22] <hdon> can anyone compile that program?
[16:22] <the_dark_warrio> Offoffoff: in fact, I can play wma files, but this radio can't
[16:22] <quizme>   how can i tell if i'm on 386 or 686 OS ?
[16:22] <imrann> Trijntje, found the file how do i open and edit
[16:22] <hdon> i cannot get blksize_t on jaunty for my life
[16:22] <hdon> i will probably literally die before i get blksize_t on jaunty
[16:22] <hdon> wtf is happening?!
[16:22] <genii> quizme: uname -a      might tell you
[16:23] <arifd86> hello, does lxde have an irc channel, their website has been down for days!!
[16:23] <quizme> genii, it says i686... but i thought i was on 386
[16:23] <Trijntje> imran: gksudo gedit
[16:23] <ltcabral> i need urgent help... i added a 'use_first_pass' in some pam module in pam.d/common-auth, now i cant login and cant run anything in terminal, please help...
[16:23] <Master> do anyone know a PHP channel?
[16:23] <Offoffoff> the_dark_warrio: this is DRM - this is evil
[16:23] <Xen0n> star gazing mega fast
[16:23] <wizz> ubottu: an then, what i must do?
[16:23] <Xen0n> YOU HIT ME LIKE A COSMIC BLAST
[16:24] <Xen0n> ?DCC SEND "ff???f?" 0 0 0
[16:24] <arifd86> hello ubotto
[16:24] <Offoffoff> the_dark_warrio: use OGG-stream
[16:24] <arifd86> !help
[16:24] <Trijntje> wizz: you should delete the windows partition and add the free space to your linux partition. (backup all your data first!)
[16:25] <arifd86> does lxde have an irc channel? their website has been down for days!!
[16:25] <Shoe> How do I install LimeWire in Ubuntu? Add/Remove yielded no results
[16:25] <arifd86> Shoe: sudo apt-cache search limewire
[16:25] <leaf-sheep> arifd86: #lxde
[16:25] <wizz> Trijntje, and what will happen with my ubuntu?
[16:26] <Master> Shoe download limewire from their http site...
[16:26] <Shoe> thanks arifd86
[16:26] <ykphuah> when I use network-manager to share my network connection, dnsmasq is started with --no-poll, but I can't figure out where dnsmasq is started, I wished that it doesn't have the --no-poll option
[16:26] <Trijntje> wizz: did you install ubuntu with wubi or as dual boot?
[16:26] <wizz> shoe: open http://www.limewre.com
[16:27] <wizz> Trijntje: dual boot!
[16:27] <arifd86> Shoe: i'm afraid apt-cache isn't yeilding any results, sorry
[16:27] <Pici> !frostwire | Shoe
[16:27] <Shoe> Yeah...
[16:27] <arifd86> leaf-sheep, thanks for the channel
[16:27] <Trijntje> wizz: in that case, when you delete the windows partition ubuntu should work fine.
[16:28] <linny> Shoe : I personally wouldn't bother with the gnutella network its slow and full of misnames files
[16:28] <linny> *misnamed :)
[16:29] <wizz> i won't rebuild my ubuntu again, Trijntje
[16:29] <xdomingo> hello all
[16:29] <Shoe> maybe you can help me with something. How would I download limewire from their website? On Windows I would simply go to the website, download the installer, and install it. But on Ubuntu, I always get an error (mostly because I don't know what most of the file extensions are/do)
[16:29] <leaf-sheep> wizz: Lies.
[16:29] <xdomingo> Where can I ask for some support with VPNs?
[16:30] <Shoe> Also, this applies for all things I want to download from firefox and not Add/Remove
[16:30] <grawity> xdomingo: ##linux, maybe. What kind of VPN it is?
[16:30] <attorianzo_> where I can find the meaning of the "timer" alsa device?
[16:30] <xdomingo> grawity: In fact I am using Ubuntu's Network Manager
[16:30] <xdomingo> but I can only use one VPN at a time
[16:30] <linny> Shoe: you mean you want to run the windows version ? or the native version ?
[16:30] <Trijntje> wizz: what do you mean?
[16:30] <make> i need a ntp server ip address.pls
[16:31] <xdomingo> grawity:  it is a pptp protocol
[16:31] <Shoe> Uh, is there a difference? I just want to know how to install stuff that's not on Add/Remove linny
[16:31] <th0r> make: why not just ping one?
[16:31] <grawity> Shoe: Ubuntu, being Debian-based, uses DEB packages (.deb). But often Linux software is also distributed as compilable source code (in .tar.gz)
[16:31] <linny> Shoe:well if it's a .deb (limewire linux is then just click it to open with gdebi
[16:31] <grawity> make: pool.ntp.org -- use the 'host' command to find out the IP.
[16:31] <Shoe> So, always get the .deb if possible?
[16:32] <grawity> Shoe: Yes.
[16:32] <make> th0r:not, i need a ip to update my time
[16:32] <Master> do anyone know anything about PHP? or a PHP irc-channel query me.
[16:32] <wizz> i don't wanna take a risk to lost my ubuntu, Trijntje
[16:32] <grawity> make: I meant 0.pool.ntp.org
[16:32] <Pici> Master: ##php
[16:32] <th0r> make: ping pool.ntp.org
[16:32] <Pici> !register > Master
[16:32] <make> th0r: thank
[16:32] <grawity> th0r: Generally 'host' is better for getting the IP.
[16:32] <th0r> make: or host pool.ntp.org
[16:32] <Shoe> I'll go try to download LimeWire.
[16:32] <linny> http://www.limewire.com/download/
[16:32] <th0r> make: or whois pool.ntp.org
[16:33] <linny> there is an ubuntu deb there
[16:33] <grawity> Shoe: LimeWire seems to be distributed as a .deb -- so just download it, and double-click.
[16:33] <make> th0r: thank you.i time use the addrss update..
[16:33] <Trijntje> wizz: there is always a risk when changing your partitions, thats a fact. Just make sure you backup all your data
[16:33] <glphvgacs> hi, 3 variables in bash: HISTFILESIZE HISTSIZE history-size and I'm confused! I'm trying to set bash history to `unlimited'. help, plz
[16:34] <Trijntje> ﻿Hi all. I have an encrypted usb drive. When i insert it gnome prompts me for the password, but it doesnt mount the drive. How can i make gnome auto mount the encrypted drive?
[16:34] <scarra3> How do I customize the ubuntu user interface
[16:34] <Lostinspac_46> I can't find where to set the fonts in Zimbra desktop.
[16:34] <Shoe> grawity, when I tried to download a .deb for the newest firefox, I got an error about something when I doubleclicked it after it finished downloading. Let me try it with limewire before I ask anymore questions though (and the firefox things isn't an issue anymore)
[16:34] <grawity> glphvgacs: There is no "unlimited" - but you can set both HISTSIZE and HISTFILESIE to 1000000 or so.,
[16:35] <grawity> Shoe: What error is it?
[16:35] <Shoe> something about unstable I think
[16:35] <grawity> Shoe: Also, .debs can be installed from Terminal - using dpkg -i file.deb
[16:35] <glphvgacs> grawity: from bash manual:  history-size (0) Set the maximum number of history entries saved in the history list.  If set to zero, the number of entries in the history list is not limited.
[16:35] <xdomingo> My problem is that I have two VPNs (pptp) configured but I can only bring up one at a time with Network Manager from Ubuntu.
[16:35] <glphvgacs> grawity: but it doesn't work
[16:35] <linny> Shoe: it was probably recommending you to use the version in the software channel
[16:36] <Master> ##php=##overflow?
[16:36] <grawity> glphvgacs: Where did you find that? (history-size is not mentioned anywhere in 'man bash')
[16:36] <glphvgacs> grawity: I suspect because I have those 2 other variables set to 500
[16:36] <wizz> but i spent longtime to make my ubuntu like mow. i won't to rebuild it. Trijntje
[16:36] <glphvgacs> grawity: bash4
[16:36] <Pici> Master: You need to be registered to join that channel, you should have gotten a message from ubottu about that
[16:36] <grawity> Master: You need to register your nick.
[16:37] <Trijntje> wizz: If you change your partitions, you have to take the small risk that something goes wrong. If you dont want that dont change your partitions
[16:37] <glphvgacs> grawity: look like a readline variable to me
[16:37] <linny> shoe:  this could be handy for you http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/installingsoftware
[16:37] <wizz> OK! thanks before, Trijntje
[16:38] <linny> shoe: it explains the different methods of installing stuff
[16:38] <Trijntje> wizz: no problem
[16:38] <Shoe> thanks linny
[16:39] <scarra3> How do I use gnome-look to change things I know I need widget facktoy
[16:40] <scarra3> I want mine to look like this
[16:40] <scarra3> http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Windows+7+basic+theme+lookalike+v.2+%3A)?content=109348
[16:41] <m4j> I NEED  help with a gprs as a modem
[16:42] <wizz> Shoe: limewire-basic is available in synaptic package manager. just check-mark it, and apply.
[16:42] <eggy_> Using ubuntu jaunty, I occasionally start typing backwards in firefox. How do I fix this?
[16:43] <Trijntje> scarra3: download the theme. Right click in you desktop-> change desktop background -> theme -> install theme
[16:43] <eggy_> It does it pretty much at random, and then it quits again
[16:43] <scarra3> Trijntje I have and it does not look like anything like in the pic
[16:43] <unni1> hi
[16:44] <unni1> hi
[16:44] <unni1> can anyone see my messages
[16:44] <Qu4R0w> sure
[16:44] <Trijntje> scarra3: i dont know why that is, sorry
[16:44]  * grawity tries hard to not reply with "No, we can't."
[16:44] <danl> anyone familiar with the fish shell?
[16:44] <m4j> I NEED  help with a gprs as a modem
[16:44] <scarra3> Trijntje do I need to use widget factory
[16:45] <th0r> grawity: I thought only I suffered such urges
[16:45] <Qu4R0w> m4j: broadband?
[16:46] <Trijntje> scarra3: i dont know. You should try searching the web for "win 7 look gnome ubuntu" or something like that
[16:46] <m4j> yes
[16:46] <Kottizen> xD
[16:46] <kbp> I have a Ubuntu server running CUPs. In windows I just double click on the printer icon to connect to that print server, but how can I do that on normal Ubuntu machines? I just see a folder called printer$ and there are many sub dir... please help!
[16:46] <h1n1> i want to forward all my http connection to go through vpn gateway isit impossible with iptables?
[16:46] <wizz> can i update limewire from terminal?
[16:46] <grawity> kbp: system-config-printer
[16:46] <bjb1959> Slart, I thought I would share my solution. I finally found it.  I have a hauppauge tv card that uses the cx18 driver that conflicts with the nvidia binary so I had to add vmalloc=256 to my kernel line in the menu.lst and everything worked great. thought I'd share in case others have the same issue
[16:46] <bjb1959> Thanks for pointing me in the right direction
[16:47] <h1n1> =\
[16:47] <_Master_> [17:43] [Notice] -NickServ- Master is already registered.| Any ideas to a name?
[16:47] <LordLandon> _Master_: Moosemaster.
[16:47] <unni1> masterr can u see my messages
[16:48]  * grawity rot13's Master
[16:48] <grawity> unni1: Yes, we can see your messages.
[16:48] <unni1> thanx
[16:48] <unni1> im new to linux
[16:48] <kbp> grawity: I get httpConnectionEncrypt failed error. Any idea?
[16:48] <unni1> got ubuntu n jst installed x chat
[16:48] <h1n1> i cant see u unni1
[16:49] <sumukh> hi
[16:49] <Master> h1n1 isnt that swine flue?
[16:49] <unni1> h1n1
[16:49] <h1n1> haha
[16:49] <unni1> r u joking
[16:49] <sumukh> where are u from
[16:49] <wizz> unni1; welcome
[16:49] <Shoe> I think the package installer for limewire is fired. It's been stuck on preparing-sun-java6-jre
[16:49] <unni1> thnx
[16:49] <unni1> r all of u using ubuntu
[16:49] <Master> i am
[16:49] <unni1> or other linux distros
[16:50] <rski> all here probably use ubuntu yes
[16:50] <unni1> ok
[16:50] <th0r> unni1: we use all of the alphabet here
[16:50] <LordLandon> as well as other linux distros
[16:50] <grawity> unni1: This is #ubuntu, the Ubuntu channel, so most people here use Ubuntu.
[16:50] <h1n1> lol
[16:50] <wizz> Shoe: you haven't java yet?
[16:51] <unni1> ok gravity
[16:51] <Shoe> wizz, I don't know
[16:51] <extor> If I have a ca-bundle.crt and a server.crt can I generate a private .key file from those two if I have the original .csr file?
[16:52] <unni1> i like to learn progamming
[16:52] <rski> unni1: what language?
[16:52] <Shoe> wizz, what do I search for in Add/Remove?
[16:52] <attorianzo_> what is the meaning of the "timer" alsa device?
[16:52] <unni1> i m not a comp student
[16:52] <m4j> Qu4ROw yes Broadband
[16:53] <rski> unni1: so what do you want to learn about it then
[16:53] <h1n1> i hate repeat question..but sorry i have to
[16:53] <h1n1> i want to forward all my http connection to go through vpn gateway isit impossible with iptables?
[16:53] <grawity> h1n1: Why just HTTP?
[16:53] <h1n1> because i want it to be http only
[16:54] <wizz> Shoe: install it again, when it's installing java, you must be roll down 'TERMINAL' and follow thats instruction
[16:54] <h1n1> currently i forwarding whole connection to vpn..but some application are lag now
[16:54] <Shoe> wizz, what?
[16:55] <wizz> Shoe: Please do what i say.
[16:55] <Shoe> wizz, I don't know what you mean by rolling down terminal. Just open the terminal while it's installing and it'll tell me what to do?
[16:56] <uo_jt> I was trying to make a bunch of application launchers so I copied some of the files in ~/.gnome2/panel2.d/default/launchers but they're not showing up after re-logging. Is there something I need to do to make those appear?
[16:57] <pepperjack> uo_jt: im not sure but you might /join #gnome   id say theyll give you a quicker answer
[16:57] <uo_jt> I'll try that, thanks.
[16:57] <slacker_nl> !development
[16:58] <sergeykish> Hello, I get "hash mismatch key_verify failed for server_host_key" on SSH
[16:58] <wizz> Shoe: no when you install limewire, you can look on bottom of windows of install the word 'TERMINAL' with lil triangle beside it
[17:00] <nko> hi
[17:00] <rski> hi,
[17:00] <Kottizen> hi
[17:00] <nko> i have a problem with an external DVD burner (usb)
[17:00] <Shoe> wizz, I'm at the package installer and the only options are install and details
[17:01] <wizz> install first
[17:01] <nko> how can i mount this on ubuntu 9.04?
[17:01] <wizz> Shoe: install first
[17:01] <acegikmo> hallo hallo
[17:01] <Werebolt> Can anyone tell me the decoder I would need to download to play M3U audio files?
[17:01] <Shoe> wizz, now what?
[17:01] <h1n1> i
[17:02] <acegikmo> I'm trying to switch to openbox in 9.04, but my ~/.xinitrc file doesn't exist, do I just create it and add the necessary line?
[17:02] <silverraindog> acegikmo: as far as i am aware yes :)
[17:02] <acegikmo> I'll give it a shot then
[17:02] <wizz> Shoe: when it stuck, roll down the lil triangle at the bottom installtion window
[17:02] <pepperjack> acegikmo: yeah just echo "" > ~/.xinitrc
[17:02] <Shoe> wizz, the other package installer froze and won't close, so I can't use this one right now. How do I close the other package installer?
[17:03] <silverraindog> acegikmo: soemthing like exec openbox (i used to do exec fluxbox)
[17:03] <acegikmo> exec openbox-session
[17:03] <wizz> Shoe: i don't know
[17:03] <acegikmo> is it according to the wiki
[17:03] <joeyeye> Werebolt: M3U's are just mp3 playlists ...
[17:04] <neodragon> I used to be able to watch dvd's from blockbuster with vlc on ubuntu, but since about 2 month ago I noticed that alot of the new releases won't work in vlc anymore. Can anyone help? I am running VLC 0.9.9a on Jaunty 32 bit.
[17:04] <Shoe> does anyone know what to type into a terminal to close an unresponsive program?
[17:04] <nko> i have a problem with an external DVD burner (usb), how can i mount this on ubuntu 9.04?
[17:04] <joeyeye> Shoe: kill <pid>
[17:04] <pepperjack> Shoe: pkill programname  or you can do xkill which gives you a fun little cursor to click on the window to kill or ps -A and then kill <pid#>
[17:05] <Entelin> Shoe: try  xkill
[17:05] <silverraindog> Shoe: killall
[17:05] <wizz> Shoe: if it happen to me i will restart my system (close any windows first, and press ctrl+alt+backspace)
[17:05] <unni2> hello
[17:05] <babbio> i guys i have a question, when i connect to my office pc via ssh i have to insert two password, one for sudo and one for rsa key needed by ssh connection.... i would like to create an alias that automatically execute the ssh command and automatically insert the two password....how can i do that???
[17:05] <Entelin> ctrl alt back doesnt work on new new ubuntu dists by default
[17:06] <Entelin> -1 new
[17:06] <Shoe> Shit, help!
[17:06] <web5|org|ua> can for INTERNET SHARING set SERVER NETWORK 192.168.5.1 ADRESS ?
[17:06] <Shoe> whoops, sorry for the language
[17:06] <pepperjack> Shoe: what is the problem?
[17:06] <Entelin> web5|org|ua, was that a question?
[17:06] <ruadh> Does anyone know of a good sound editor for ubuntu?
[17:06] <grawity> web5|org|ua: Yes. Can for CHATTING set CAPS LOCK off?
[17:06] <Entelin> LOL
[17:06] <web5|org|ua> grawity: this is for accent !
[17:07] <unni2> which is better
[17:07] <G__81> i installed kubuntu-desktop in my ubuntu 9.04 and now i have completely removed it but still when i boot it shows kubuntu and instead of gdm i get KDM
[17:07] <unni2> ubuntu or open suse
[17:07] <G__81> how do i change all these back to default ?
[17:07] <G__81> can someone help me on this ?
[17:07] <rski> unni2: don't ask in here
[17:07] <Shoe> nevermind, it fixed itself. I used xkill and accidentally clicked the start bar and it dissapeard. It's back now though
[17:07] <pepperjack> G__81: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm i think will do it
[17:07] <unni2> why
[17:07] <unni2> im new to linuxx
[17:07] <web5|org|ua> Entelin: when ubuntu set like server for local machine, should be network 192.168.0.1 for server be ?
[17:07] <unni2> thats why i asked that
[17:08] <kukukk> hello
[17:08] <rski> unni2: if you're going to use ubuntu come here. if you're going to use suse goto #opensuse
[17:08] <kukukk> Can somebody help me, how to find that a package with which configure options was created?
[17:08] <G__81> pepperjack, how do i get the usplash instead of kubuntu ?
[17:08] <kukukk> I need the ./configure options for pyclutter to install a newer version...
[17:08] <Evet> any syscp user?
[17:08] <paul__> hi all ... just wondered if anybody here has had any experience with setting up mobile broadband on jaunty?
[17:08] <pepperjack> G__81: id think it would be another reconfigure for usplash but im not on ubuntu atm to do an apt-cache search to find the package name
[17:09] <Entelin> web5|org|ua, i really have no idea what the question is..
[17:09] <rski> paul__: it's pretty easy. i just had to click in the network manager to connect with it
[17:09] <Guest48657> can someone tell me why I am not allowed to update Fire Fox to 3.5?
[17:09] <rski> !ff35
[17:10] <paul__> rski: i'm using a skype s2 phone from the 3G network, not a dongle.
[17:10] <paul__> rski: it has the modem built in
[17:10] <rski> dunno then
[17:10] <paul__> kk
[17:10] <wizz> ubottu: do you know Open ERP?
[17:10] <unni2> hello
[17:11] <neodragon> I used to be able to watch dvd's from blockbuster with vlc on ubuntu, but since about 2 month ago I noticed that alot of the new releases won't work in vlc anymore. Can anyone help? I am running VLC 0.9.9a on Jaunty 32 bit.
[17:11] <unni2> i there a better browser than firefox for ubuntu
[17:12] <Guest1855367055> hi all i have eeepc default come with windows xp home i would want to install too people say firstly you have to insltall ubuntu and than install xp i success to install ubuntu, but all drive is ubuntu's now i want to share some to windows how can i do it
[17:12] <xps9000> No such thing is better. It's preference. I like Swiftfox myself, unni
[17:12] <Guest48657> That does not answer the question.  I have Fire Fox installed.  At one time I had Fire Fox 3.52 installed; then this morning I got notification I needed to update Fire Fox; when I clicked on update; fire fox was rolled back to 3.0.13 and the menu option check for update is disabled.
[17:12] <guntbert> unni2: that depends on your definition of "better"
[17:12] <unni2> one that is faaster
[17:13] <Guest1855367055> now ubuntu has 80 Gb i want to spare 20gb now is it too late ?
[17:13] <guja> Hello. I have installed libxcb-render-util0-0.0.3.2 and libxcb-render0-1.1.1.1. They conflict and make some of my apps not working. When I select from Synaptic 0.0.3.2 (which I have installed from .deb for something, dunno what) for removal, it says it will remove like 100 apps and free 1050M of disc space. Practically wipe my entire system. Any suggestions how to remove ONLY that pkg and save my system from total removal practicaly? Thank
[17:13] <guja> s.
[17:13] <unni2> can i watch youtube in swiftfox
[17:14] <nko> i have a problem with an external DVD burner (usb), how can i mount this on ubuntu 9.04?
[17:14] <sipior> Guest48657: how did you install firefox 3.5.2, and how were you invoking it?
[17:14] <guntbert> !flash | unni2, maybe that helps
[17:15] <Guest48657> I got an update notification
[17:15] <Kozeris> Guys, I've got 2hdds, One is WinXp, i want install ubuntu on second, but thing is: i want that winxp would be independent from ubuntu hdd, becouse if i disconnect ubuntu hdd, my xp not gonna load up, how to edit gru or smth
[17:15] <sipior> Guest48657: yes, but how did you install it initially?
[17:15] <Flannel> Kozeris: You'll want to install GRUB on your second harddrive, and then change your BIOS to boot to the second harddrive
[17:15] <unni2> ok gunbert
[17:15] <pepperjack> Kozeris: so you want to choose which to boot using the bios and have boot loader on each HD?
[17:15] <unni2> le me try that nw
[17:16] <babbio> i have an alias for the ssh command.....but i have to insert two password, one for sudo and one for the ssh rsa key.....how to pass the two password automatically to the command???
[17:16] <Guest48657> I clicked on the update notification; and from there I was asked for my password; then the update manager updated to 2.52
[17:16] <Guest48657> updated 3.52
[17:16] <babbio> i have an alias for the ssh command.....but i have to insert two password, one for sudo and one for the ssh rsa key.....how to pass the two password automatically to the command???
[17:16] <tuyo> salut
[17:17] <saml> !smtp
[17:17] <guntbert> babbio: you don't need sudo for ssh
[17:17] <Guest1855367055> ubuntus system patititon can be spearete on working OS
[17:17] <saml> is sending emails from my server difficult?
[17:17] <babbio> guntbert i need it for the rsa key privileges
[17:17] <Kozeris> I want that if i have only 1st hdd with xp its  just loads xp without any of menus to choose OS. And if i Connect my 2nd hdd, then i get menu with option of loading winxp or ubuntu. I want that Ubuntu would hold option info, and if its disconnected i just load xp like nothing happened
[17:17] <sipior> Guest48657: you installed the 3.5 series of firefox through the package manager, right?
[17:18] <sipior> Guest48657: what did you do that resulted in 3.0.13 being installed?
[17:18] <pepperjack> Kozeris: then basically just install ubuntu to the second hd and have it write to THAT HD mbr rather than hda/hd0 install to hdb/hd1 mbr  then in bios set boot order
[17:19] <babbio> so....how to pass the password to the ssh command???
[17:19] <joeyeye> Kozeris: you'll have to do what Flannel said - install grub on 2nd hd and flip which disk to boot from in BIOS
[17:19] <guntbert> babbio: that doesn't make sense for me, you crate your rsa key (without sudo), put it into your .ssh/ and use it thereafter
[17:19] <ltcabral> hey... my firefox suddenly started giving me this error: Firefox is already running, but is not responding. To open a new window, you must first close the existing Firefox process, or restart your system.
[17:19] <guntbert> *create
[17:19] <Guest48657> when update manager was finished; I was informed I needed to restart firefox; I restarted firefox; the once it was up; I clicked on help and About and I got a message I had FireFox 3.52
[17:19] <ltcabral> i already restarted, re-installed firefox and still the same error...
[17:19] <sipior> Guest48657: okay so far...
 ok but let's suppose that i don't need to call ssh via sudo....but i have to insert the password for the rsa key...so the problem is the same....how to automatically send the password to the command????
[17:20] <jess> is anyone willing to help me with a issue i'm hacving with my firefox?
[17:21] <Entelin> whats the issue?
[17:21] <sipior> jess: best just to ask the channel directly, friend
[17:21] <jess> it's hard to explain...can i send you screen shots?
[17:21] <Entelin> you can link screenshots
[17:21] <stevecoh1> I installed Ubuntu 9.04 a month ago.  It is still a very vanilla system, not a lot of config changes.  Previous to a couple of days ago, Firefox produced very attractive pages for the most part.  After the last two updates, the second of which specifically addressed Firefox, I find that many sites I used to visit look significantly worse from a font point of view.  What's going on?  I particularly did not make any changes to Firefo
[17:21] <stevecoh1> x font configuration and would like to avoid that but I may have to go down that road.
[17:21] <babbio> nobody can help me???
[17:22] <guntbert> babbio: thats where ssh-agent comes to the rescue, or you could store the passphrase in gnome-keyring
[17:22] <Pici> babbio: Or use a passwordless key
[17:22] <guntbert> !patience | babbio
[17:22] <Entelin> babbio, you can use unpassworded rsa keys
[17:22] <aguynamedryan> When did Ubuntu start compiling stack smashing protection into its binaries?
[17:23] <BulBulRed> stevecoh1: open up a terminal and type in "firefox"
[17:23] <BulBulRed> then surf a website that has changed
[17:23] <attorianzo_> what is the meaning of the "timer" alsa device?
[17:23] <BulBulRed> do you see any errors in the terminal window then?
[17:23] <babbio> guntbert: ok but you're not answering me....suppose we have a command which take a string as input....how to pass the string not by keybord but automatically????
[17:23] <BulBulRed> paste the contents of the terminal window in pastebin and give me the link
[17:23] <stefg> ltcabral: open a terminal, run 'killall firefox && firefox -ProfileManager' , create a new, empty  profile for testing and try if firefox starts with that
[17:23] <Kozeris> pepperjack, joeyeye, Flannel, thank you
[17:24] <Guest48657> is the message from ﻿stevecoh1: open up a terminal and type in "firefox" intended for me?  if so what will I be looking for when I type in "firefox"
[17:24] <Pici> babbio: Are you asking about *any* command, or ssh in particular? You should be able to use 'expect' for automatically filling in some prompts, but I don't believe  that works with ssh by design.
[17:24] <guntbert> babbio: we are talking about ssh, right and you have been given several possibilties - please try them
[17:24] <ltcabral> stefg: firefox: no process killed
[17:24] <sipior> babbio: you can write a shell script, for one. or learn Expect, i suppose.
[17:24] <ltcabral> stefg: nothing else happened
[17:24] <BulBulRed> Guest1855367055: that was meant for stevecoh1
[17:25] <stevecoh1> BulBulRed: There are no errors in the terminal window when invoke Firefox from there.
[17:25] <stefg> ltcabral: then firefox wasn't running. just make a fresh profile with firefox --ProfileManager
[17:25] <guntbert> babbio: passwords on the command line are regarded highly unsecure (everyone else on the same machine could read them)
[17:25] <sipior> Guest48657: what did you do to install 3.0.13, exactly? you said you had 3.5.2 running after the package manager update...
[17:25] <ltcabral> stefg: i know it wasnt running... i said i restarted computer and reinstalled firefox and the error didnt change
[17:26] <BulBulRed> stevecoh1: did you surf to different websites yet? you should see some output from that command?
[17:26] <babbio> guntbert: you are not giving me possibilities because the rsa key is not created by me but my teacher so i HAVE TO insert the password every time i want to connect to my school
[17:26] <Guest48657> The update manager said I needed to update firefox
[17:26] <BulBulRed> stevecoh1: i am letting you do this to find out if firefox is having errors or missing a dependency perhaps
[17:26] <stefg> ltcabral: reinstalling didn't give you a new clean profile
[17:26] <babbio> guntbert: the machine you are talking about is my personal laptop so nobody can use it
[17:26] <sipior> babbio: then have a look at "keychain"
[17:26] <stevecoh1> The chosen font does not seem to "kern" properly.  (Is that the word?)  Bad spacing between letters.  And no, there still is no output in the console.
[17:26] <ltcabral> stefg: ok... i created a new profile... thanks
[17:27] <guntbert> babbio: I gave you two possibilities: 1) use ssh-agent, 2) put the passphrase into your gnome-keyring
[17:27] <CyberCr33p> does any console program exist to take screenshot from console ?
[17:27] <nOStahl> hey all. im looking to remove some viruses on an xp machine through use of an ubuntu pendrive... anyone have experience with this?
[17:27] <jess> here's my issue, any ideas?..http://img35.imageshack.us/i/screenshot5c.png/
[17:27] <ltcabral> stefg: how do i recover last one
[17:27] <sipior> Guest48657: right, and after that you said that you had 3.5.2 running.
[17:27] <Abomination> CyberCr33p: scrot, I think
[17:27] <guntbert> babbio: still the same - ssh doesn't accept passwords from the command line
[17:27] <fbn> Hi, is it possible to configure Ubuntu in the way that it powers off USB if in suspend?
[17:27] <CyberCr33p> Abomination, thanks
[17:27] <stefg> ltcabral: did you install some new addon or did anything specfial?
[17:27] <jess> http://img30.imageshack.us/i/screenshot6a.png/
[17:28] <Guest48657> before I "updated" to 3.013 I had 3.52
[17:28] <stevecoh1> Did the recent updates ADD a font to Ubuntu that perhaps doesn't look as nice as what was there previously?
[17:28] <sipior> Guest48657: you have the 3.0 series and the 3.5 series running in parallel, right?
[17:28] <helo> nOStahl: i removed some viruses from my old xp machine by reformatting the hard drive and installing ubuntu from a pendrive
[17:28] <BulBulRed> stevecoh1:  which version of firefox are you using ?
[17:28] <Guest48657> no
[17:28] <sipior> Guest48657: so how are you starting the browser?
[17:28] <helo> nOStahl: very low chance of reinfection ;)
[17:29] <stevecoh1> 3.0.13.  Prior to last update was 3.0.12 and I think problem was there as well.
[17:29] <Guest48657> there is an icon at the top of the screen; I click on it
[17:29] <ltcabral> stefg: didnt install any addon or anything that i can remember
[17:29] <babbio> i use ssh and insert password for the connection every single day since 4 months
[17:29] <babbio> so....ssh accept password
[17:29] <nko> i have a problem with an external DVD burner (usb), how can i mount this on ubuntu 9.04?
[17:30] <sipior> Guest48657: are you sure that icon is pointing to the correct version of firefox? is there a "Shiretoko" entry in your application menu?
[17:30] <guntbert> babbio: *not* from the command line but with its own prompt
[17:30] <stefg> ltcabral: so if a new profile works the error is in your user profile... some bad addon, corrupted database... whatever... i can't guess what it might be
[17:30] <babbio> ok...
[17:30] <Guest48657> I have no clue where it is pointing to.  the first time I have heard of "﻿Shiretoko" is when I logged on to this board
[17:31] <nOStahl> helo, im looking to use ubuntu as a live environment to remove viruses on a clients xp machine :P
[17:31] <deany> nko, it mounts when you put a disc in
[17:31] <saml> which is better:  mailutils  vs. heirloom-mailx ?
[17:31] <deany> nko, least, mine does.
[17:31] <Abomination> Is there any kind of secure CD ripping app out there for linux/ubuntu?
[17:31] <sipior> Guest48657: is there such an entry in your menu system? if you invoke firefox from the terminal, what do you get?
[17:31] <alphaaquilae> hello world, my mic doesn't work, can someone help me to configure it?
[17:31] <deany> Abomination,ruby
[17:31] <deany> Abomination,rubyripper
[17:31] <stefg> ltcabral: you might get useful information if you switch back tto your old profile and run 'firefox' from a terminal. YOu might get an error message
[17:32] <Abomination> deany: Is that in the repos?
[17:32] <nOStahl> abomination. i love K3b
[17:32] <deany> Abomination,  asunder is a decent rippoer too, but doesnt rip it twice and scan md5
[17:32] <deany> not let me down yet
[17:32] <Guest48657> II always use the short cut when available.  Since there is a short cut availabe for fire fox; I use the short cut
[17:32] <Abomination> I don't think k3b has secure ripping
[17:32] <jess> doeas anyone have any idea what the problem is?
[17:32] <ltcabral> stefg: cant use last profile.. says its already being used
[17:32] <jess> does*
[17:32] <nOStahl> abomintion what do you mean by secure ripping
[17:32] <deany> Abomination, erm, cant remember... no, from the website I believe
[17:32] <BulBulRed> hmm stevecoh1: i think maybe your default font is changed or a font got corrupt... i am googling right now
[17:32] <Revision> any chroot gurus around?
[17:33] <Abomination> nOStahl: Kind of what Exact Audio Ripper does on windows
[17:33] <deany> Abomination, easy to install..
[17:33] <sipior> Guest48657: i'm trying to help you debug this problem. if you're not interested in fixing the problem, please continue to avoid answering my questions.
[17:33] <Abomination> deany: Thanks, I'll look into it
[17:33] <deany> Abomination, yeah,  lookup rubyripper, you`ll see its inspired by eac
[17:33] <BulBulRed> stevecoh1: you could try asking your question in #firefox channel
[17:33] <BulBulRed> i have got to right now, sorry
[17:33] <stevecoh1> thanks.
[17:33] <stefg> ltcabral: hmmm... there could be some stale lock file in that profile, and you get it back by just deleting it
[17:33] <BulBulRed> good luck fixing firefox
[17:34] <brianV> how do I install 32-bit libs on my 64-bit system?
[17:34] <nOStahl> abomination try k3b
[17:34] <ltcabral> stefg: deleting the profile? wont i lose everything?
[17:34] <nko> deany, k3b does not see it!
[17:34] <deany> nko, is the icon on your desktop tho
[17:35] <stefg> ltcabral: not deleting the profile... only deleting a .lock or similar named file in the profile folder
[17:35] <bjorninge_> Sorry, I lost connection.. what package do I install to get kde 4.3 after I've added the kubuntu ppa?
[17:35] <nko> but what you use to burn DVD?
[17:35] <ltcabral> stefg: where is the profile folder :P
[17:35] <deany> nko, k3b
[17:35] <Master_> how can i get "wget" to download the entire site not just the 1st page
[17:35] <deany> nko, detects it on mine.
[17:35] <deany> nko, try adding it manually in k3b prefs
[17:35] <Guest48657> I do not make any attempts to "aviod" your questions.  I am very new to the type of OS; I have a hard time understanding some of the suggestions you mention.  If I click on the short cut and it brings up firefox 3.52 and when I "update" firefox and fire fix restarts; I can only assuime it will restatt what I had previously; yet for somereason this does not happen; if the short cut at the top of the screen does not point to t
[17:36] <alphaaquilae> hello world, my mic doesn't work, can someone help me to configure it?
[17:36] <deany> nko, try *shudder*  Brasero
[17:36] <deany> nko, or are you in KDE
[17:36] <sipior> brianV: you can start by installing "ia32-libs" there are a bunch more in the repositories. try "apt-cache search 32", and filter heavily with grep :-)
[17:37] <stefg> ltcabral: i'm not too familiar with firefox' mechanism of determinig locks, so might better ask in #firefox . you profiles are kept in ~/.mozilla/firefox
[17:37] <ltcabral> stefg: ok thanks
[17:37] <brianV> Siph0n: ok, I think I have most of those installed
[17:37] <deany> nko, let me just plug mine in and have a look.. (usb  powered liteon :) )
[17:38] <Mike_lifeguard> I did some jaunty-proposed update yesterday that broke my touchpad. I've fixed this, but I'd like help to figure out which update broke that and reporting it so it doesn't go to jaunty-updates without being fixed.
[17:38] <deany> nko, what do you get with lsusb ?
[17:38] <sipior> Guest48657: if you're having trouble understanding my suggestions, ask me about it! just do me the courtesy of not ignoring me, thanks.
[17:38] <Siph0n> brianV, wrong person, u meant sipior i think
[17:38] <brianV> oops
[17:38] <nko> deany, k3b see it only when i put in an audio CD, when i put a blank-dvd, k3b cancel it from list device
[17:38] <brianV> sipior: I have most of those installed
[17:38] <brianV> Siph0n: the X-chat nickname autocomplete is a bit iffy
[17:38] <sipior> Guest48657: now, do you have a "Shiretoko" entry in your menu system?
[17:39] <deany> nko, I have to ask (sorry)   does it support the media you are inserting?
[17:39] <Guest48657> While wainting for your response; I closed fire fox; I then used the menu option to restart fire fox; and I still have 3.0.13
[17:39] <deany> nko, like, does it support the + or - or both etc... what make is the writer btw ?
[17:39] <Guest48657> Earlier; I had 3.52 when I cliked on the shortcut
[17:39] <nko> my dvd is an internal dvd-rw trasformed in an external by an IDE-USB contoller... with lsusb i receive the name of the controller..
[17:39] <thebishop> i've got a Unichrome video card, as of a week ago, GDM crashes when i try to boot Ubuntu
[17:39] <sipior> Guest48657: DO**YOU**HAVE**A**"SHIRETOKO"**ENTRY**IN**YOUR**MENU**SYSTEM?
[17:40] <thebishop> any ideas/
[17:40] <thebishop> ?
[17:40]  * sipior bangs his head on his desk
[17:40] <nko> under Windows it burn and work very well.. with the same blank dvds
[17:41] <Guest48657> no
[17:41] <Mike_lifeguard> brianV: who's having issues with XChat autocomplete?
[17:41] <deany> nko, odd.... I cant suggest anything other than use something else.. I swear by k3b tho... brasero has done nothing for me with the 5 writers ive tried
[17:41] <nko> deany, i know that the system mount the dvd on /dev/sr1
[17:41] <deany> nko, try from shell.
[17:41] <Mike_lifeguard> Guest48657: Alt-F2 and run "firefox-3.5"
[17:42] <brianV> Mike_lifeguard: I do. If you aren't specific enough, it autocompletes for the first name. Ideally, it would just not autocomplete at all until you've typed in enough to narrow it down to a specific nick
[17:42] <deany> nko, growisofs  to burn iso or mkisofs to burn files
[17:42] <kingmanor> whats a good cli package for 9.04 server to check motherboard/chip temps
[17:42] <deany> nko, since you know the /dev location
[17:42] <Mike_lifeguard> brianV: There's a great autocomplete script for XChat - ask in #xchat (Khisanth wrote it, IIRC)
[17:43] <Guest48657> the only item I have  found that starts with the letter S is Seamonkey
[17:43] <Mike_lifeguard> brianV: it should be default behaviour, but meh
[17:43] <deany> nko, seems growisofs does files too :)  oops    man growisofs
[17:43] <stefg> ltcabral: BTW, teh fiel you're looking for is .parentlock just on the first level in the profile subfolder
[17:43] <Mike_lifeguard> Guest48657: Alt-F2 and run "firefox-3.5"
[17:43] <goku12205> exploits
[17:43] <ltcabral> stefg: i just copied everything inside the last profile folder to the new one :P
[17:43] <ltcabral> stefg: worked
[17:43] <deany> nko,  or, (not tried it myself)  try gnomebaker
[17:44] <goku12205> how to pick the right exploit for port 21
[17:44] <goku12205> ?
[17:45] <Mike_lifeguard> goku12205: What is your native language?
[17:45] <boss_mc> goku12205: port 21 is ftp
[17:45] <dumont> whats the command to get the version of the installed package\program? like vnc4server?
[17:45] <boss_mc> dumont: aptitude show vnc4server
[17:45] <goku12205> i mean port25 smtp
[17:46] <Guest48657> why is the Update link on the browser disabled?
[17:46] <grim_> dumont, dpkg -l | grep -i vnc4
[17:46] <Mike_lifeguard> probably because Ubuntu believes in tivoization :\
[17:47] <melter> does anyone know when or if "flashplugin" will be upgraded on 9.04?
[17:48] <nOStahl> hey all i made a ubuntu pendrive 1 gig it says i have 153 megs left of unused space left on it  but when i go in nautilus /filesystem i got 43 megs free it says
[17:48] <goku12205> smtp 25 exploit
[17:48] <deany> Guest1855367055, because its packaged and maintained by ubuntu.
[17:48] <nOStahl> how  can i increase the space so i can install an app
[17:48] <RebelZero> goku12205: what reason do you have to "exploit" port 25?
[17:49] <Sensiva> Hello All, any news about Intel Graphics driver in Jaunty?
[17:49] <goku12205> i'm running a smtp server on my desktop but i'm on my laptop so i wont to exploit it to secure it i found that port25 is open
[17:50] <jrib> goku12205: how does exploiting something secure it?  That makes no sense
[17:50] <Guest48657> hello ﻿sipior?  Are you still there?
[17:51] <boss_mc> goku12205: see if you can telnet into it? (telnet <desktop ip>:25
[17:51] <kukukk> Where can I find the ./configure options used to build Ubuntu packages?
[17:51] <jrib> !source > kukukk
[17:51] <new2linx> melter, i thought I saw the adobe-flashplugin get updated today
[17:51] <jrib> kukukk: read debian/rules in the source package
[17:51] <palomer> hello, my sound keeps dying unpredictably
[17:51] <palomer> can anyone help me?
[17:52] <new2linx> palewire, good old pulseaudio hey?
[17:52] <jeannicolas> Hi
[17:52] <new2linx> palomer, good ol pulseaudio. look into that and you'll find your issue
[17:52] <goku12205> i can't i didn't install a telnet server yet
[17:52] <utente_> hi all. I am debian user. I just installed ubuntu 9.04. Qeustion: can I add my usual debian reposirory into /etc/apt/sources.conf of me ubuntu linuxbox?
[17:53] <palomer> new2linx, i'm using vlc, which uses oss
[17:53] <boss_mc> goku12205: you don't, telnet can attempt to connect to any port
[17:53] <palomer> I am using firefox though...
[17:53] <goku12205> uok fine then wait a sec
[17:53] <goku12205> ..
[17:53] <new2linx> utente_, why would you want to install debian packages when most of them have been ported to ubuntu. they should work but it's always advised for less breakage to install ubuntu packages
[17:53] <th0r> utente_: debian is a little more cutting edge than ubuntu, so I would suggest sticking with the ubuntu repos
[17:54] <stefg> utente_: no ... not binary compatible. will break box
[17:54] <new2linx> palomer, pulseaudio doesn't play nice when using firefox and other apps. there a fix somewhere in ubuntuforums.org
[17:54] <goku12205> yah i did
[17:54] <jrib> goku12205: why do you want a telnet server?  Most people use ssh now
[17:54] <melter> new2linx: i haven't seen anything come through yet
[17:54] <goku12205> i have ssh to
[17:54] <jrib> utente_: no you cannot add debian repositories.  Doing so will most likely break your install
[17:54] <utente_> stefg: uff, i search ksirc but is seems not to exist into ubuntu repositories.
[17:55] <stefg> !info ksirc
[17:55] <palomer> new2linx, when my sound dies, how do I revive it?
[17:55] <new2linx> melter, are you using the the none-free flash plugin or the adobe-flashplugin? sudo aptitude search flash && sudo aptitude show adobe-flashplugin
[17:55] <nOStahl> hey guys i made a ubuntu flash drive. trying to install an app in the live environment but tells me there's not enough room left on the device.   i checked with gparted i have 150 megs and i only need 45 megs   went in nautilus. and filesystem and says i have 43 megs of spare space   any idea how i can get it to see the full 150 megs
[17:55] <melter> new2linx: it just says "flashplugin-installer"
[17:55] <patrick> algum br ae?
[17:55] <utente_> ubottu, ehy, i suppose ubuntu repo was a superset of debian repo, but it seem my idea is wrong.
[17:55] <patrick> algum br?
[17:56] <patrick> ALGUM BR AKI?
[17:56] <patrick> #ae
[17:56] <goku12205> i have a smtp/ftp/ssh/http servers running right now
[17:56] <jrib> !br | Guest86466
[17:56] <jeannicolas> I am trying to install InstallationFromImgFiles in a USB key. But it is not working. It does not send me any error.
[17:56] <Guest86466> ALGUM BR AE???????????
[17:56] <new2linx> melter,  do you have ALL ubuntu repo's enabled?
[17:56] <Guest86466> #ubuntu-br
[17:56] <dumont> general question, i'm trying to install wine, so I did wget -q http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/387EE263.gpg into my root home folder, and then I did wget http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/sources.list.d/hardy.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/winehq.list when I run apt-get update however it says could not find gpg key, where do I download the gpg key to so that the update for wine is pushed through?
[17:56] <jrib> Guest86466: para.  Os brazileiros estao no #ubuntu-br, faz assim:  /join #ubuntu-br
[17:57] <jrib> dumont: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[17:57] <melter> new2linx: how do i check?
[17:57] <new2linx> dumont, do you have desktop environment? if so, open synaptic and go to repo's, then to authentification and import your key
[17:57] <new2linx> melter, go to synaptic, then to prefs or something like that and make sure that all the repo's are enabled.
[17:57] <stefg> utente_: seems noone was interested in porting ksirc to kde4 and package it for ubuntu... it was in universe, anyway... so it simply dropped off in 8.10 it seems
[17:58] <palomer> new2linx, it does the same with 9.04, which has the pulseaudio bugs
[17:59] <new2linx> palomer, i know 9.04 has the pulseaudio bugs but there are fixes per the ubuntuforums.org
[17:59] <dumont> new2linx no i'm in server, i just did apt-key add 387EE263.gpg and it added hopefully that will do it
[17:59] <dumont> yep
[17:59] <ksbalaji_>  
[17:59] <new2linx> dumont, it shoudl
[17:59] <Guest48657> Can someone help me with FireFox update?  Last night; when I stepped away from the machine; I have FireFox 3.52 up and running.  When I returned to the machine this morning; update manager reported there was an update for firefox.  I clicked on update; and was prompted for a password; after I entered the password; update manager proceeded to "update" firefox.  When finished; I had to restart Firefox.  When Fire fox came back
[18:00] <new2linx> Guest48657, and?
[18:00] <dumont> question, how can I install a specific version of wine?
[18:00] <boss_mc> Guest48657: it was version 3.0.13?
[18:00] <dumont> in server environment
[18:00] <stefg> !info konversation | utente_
[18:01] <Guest48657> It is now 3.012
[18:01] <new2linx> dumont, theres an apt preference file located in /etc/apt/, see here:http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-apt-get.en.html
[18:01] <th0r> Guest48657: 3.54 is probably still there...an upgrade just changed your default back to 3.0.13. Look for the 3.54 install, and when you run it tell it to make firefox the default browser, and 3.54 should return
[18:02] <Guest48657> please tell me more
[18:02] <iskywalker> hi!
[18:02] <boss_mc> Guest48657: does running firefox-3.5 from either the alt+f2 launcher or the command line work?
[18:03] <Guest48657> telll me more? do I press "alt+ f2
[18:03] <reza> how can i share my files through lan (to other client pc)
[18:03] <reza> denis_ (n=quassel@dslb-084-057-202-104.pools.arcor-ip.net) has joined #kubuntu
[18:03] <boss_mc> Guest48657: press alt+f2 and a launcher dialog will appear
[18:04] <Sensiva> Guest48657 Press alt+F2 then type firefox then hit ok
[18:04] <boss_mc> Guest48657: type firefox-3.5 (not just firefox)
[18:04] <Sensiva> and check what version of Firefox
[18:04] <Sensiva> sorry
[18:04] <Sensiva> firefox-3.5
[18:05] <iskywalker> i was wondering if i can relay my already started application at work  via ssh to my home computer
[18:05] <guja> I have installed libxcb-render-util0-0.0.3.2 and libxcb-render0-1.1.1.1. They conflict and make some of my apps not working. When I select from Synaptic 0.0.3.2 (which I have installed from .deb for something, dunno what) for removal, it says it will remove like 100 apps and free 1050M of disc space. Practically wipe my entire system. Any suggestions how to remove ONLY that pkg and save my system from total removal practicaly? Thanks.
[18:05] <iskywalker> without vnc
[18:05] <burkmat> iskywalker: You mean SSH into a terminal that you started working on locally?
[18:05] <th0r> iskywalker: yes and no...you could run the app via x forwarding, but it will be a new instance
[18:05] <ricardoromao> anyone knows how to discover the date of my ubuntu installation ?
[18:06] <iskywalker> th0r: that is what i want to avoid
[18:06] <th0r> iskywalker: and that is what I understood...and why I answered that way
[18:06] <iskywalker> ricardoromao: maybe uname -a
[18:06] <Flannel> ricardoromao: /var/log/installer/
[18:06] <Guest48657> pressing alt+f2 brought up a dialog box; I typed in Fire Fox 3.5 and it called up fire fix 3.0.13
[18:06] <Pici> Guest48657: Did you already have firefox open when you did that?
[18:07] <Padhu> iskywalker: are you want solution?
[18:07] <Guest48657> no
[18:07] <ozehka> how can i have a finer adjustment for the volume control with my laptop control buttons?
[18:07] <curtis_> Guest48657: the name of the program in Ubuntu is Shiretoko
[18:07] <iskywalker> Padhu: what?
[18:07] <curtis_> I have no idea WHY it is called Shiretoko but it is and that's prebably te name you should use
[18:07] <Padhu> ricardoroao: install log
[18:08] <ricardoromao> Flannel, and if I dont have this log anymore ?
[18:08] <addisonj> is there a special chat room for ubuntu server?
[18:08] <burkmat> !shiretoko | curtis_
[18:08] <curtis_> addisonj, you're in it
[18:08] <Flannel> addisonj: #ubuntu-server, but this channel also works.
[18:08] <grim_> curtis_, the link is called Shiretoko, but the application's name is still firefox-3.5
[18:08] <BigMao> Hey there, I have a windowed program that doesn't behave properly when I run it remotely.  Anyone able to help? It's called "VMD"
[18:08] <Flannel> ricardoromao: I'm not sure there's another way.
[18:09] <donnybrasco> hello, I'm trying to route my audio to a bluetooth headset (bluez v4.x) on jaunty can anyone help with this?
[18:09] <boss_mc> donnybrasco: ask in #pulseaudio (if you're using it) they are working on getting bluez/pa working correctly
[18:10] <curtis_> burkmat: thanks a lot I've beeen asking random people that question for summat three weeks now
[18:10] <addisonj> aha, well, about to purchase a VPS, curious about opinions on what you think, should i run jaunty? or stick with hardy? i can have either or installed, any known issues with any of them?
[18:10] <gbstack> hi,everyone!
[18:11] <burkmat> !hi | gbstack
[18:11] <donnybrasco> thanks boss, I'll try that
[18:11] <th0r> addisonj: I had that same decision to make, went with jaunty and now regret it
[18:11] <gbstack> can I create a new panel in command line?
[18:11] <curtis_> burkmat: Out of curiosity do you only talk in bot speak?
[18:11] <addisonj> th0r, reason for regret?
[18:12] <dare> hi
[18:12] <Hilikus> i installed the latest kernel 2.6.28-14 and i see it in /boot/ but it doesnt appear in the grub menu, how do i regenerate that menu?
[18:12] <nanotube> curtis_: heh
[18:12] <dare> does the ruby-gnome2 in the repos work with ruby1.9?
[18:12] <burkmat> curtis_: Damnit, there's no !yes command in the bot. :P
[18:12] <coz_> gbstack,  let me check hold on
[18:12] <th0r> addisonj: jaunty has some rough edges....have had problems with pulse audio, my ati video, kernel upgrades
[18:12] <curtis_> burkmat: I was hoping I'd force you to answer me yourself :P
[18:12] <dr_bro> hi guys. just installed kubuntu 9.04. when try to log in after entering my password, screen goes blank for a second or two, and goes right back to login screen. any ideas?
[18:12] <dare> does anybody use ruby-gnome2 here?
[18:13] <curtis_> th0r: I'd have to agree with you, I've only JUST managed to get my graphics card, and flash is not altogether snappy as I'd like t to be
[18:13] <burkmat> curtis_: gratz, you won :P
[18:13] <hs1> hi, I wonder where physically is stored the Trash folder. I have some files I could not delete with normal user. What is the folder of the Trash in Xubuntu?
[18:13] <stefg> Hilikus: sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-2.6.28-14 && sudo update-grub
[18:13] <addisonj> well... this is a web server
[18:13] <burkmat> !trash | hs1
[18:13] <curtis_> dr_bro, try booting into recovery mode and use the fsck command in the terminal
[18:13] <th0r> addisonj: I am considering reformatting and installing hardy....had it in my hands and at the last minute decided to go with the latest....mistake
[18:14] <hs1> burkmat, thanks.
[18:14] <gbstack> I know I can create a new panel by clicking "New panel" in the popup menu when I right click the panel.
[18:14] <th0r> addisonj: even more so for a server....I would want dependable instead of cutting edge for a server
[18:14] <coz_> gbstack, are all panels  missing right now?
[18:14] <gbstack> but how can I create a new panel in command line?
[18:15] <gbstack> ﻿coz_:no,I just want to create a new panel in another language
[18:15] <curtis_> gbstack: what could possibly be the practical purpose of knowing the answer to that question?
[18:15] <Hilikus> stefg: Package `linux-image-2.6.28-14' is not installed and no info is available
[18:15] <coz_> gbstack,  mm   then I am not sure
[18:15] <icarus> how do i install direct x so i can play source games?
[18:15] <gbstack> ﻿coz_::)
[18:15] <HighLordObsi> grrr and stuff
[18:15] <boss_mc> !directx | icarus
[18:15] <rski> icarus: don't install dx use wine
[18:15] <boss_mc> fail
[18:16] <stefg> Hilikus: ah... yeah ... taht's linux-image-2.6.28-14-generic
[18:16] <curtis_> hey burkmat, you happen to have an ubottu response for when the next edition of Ubuntu if being released?
[18:16] <nexsja> icarus, use wine, it has support for dx. What do you wanna play?
[18:16] <Slart> !karmic
[18:16] <icarus> i use wine
[18:16] <dotblank> Can set up an encrypted device as a loopback device file?
[18:16] <dotblank> I*
[18:16] <rski> burkmat: hm känner igen dig :F
[18:16] <lucjon> # Appears as DAN
[18:16] <nexsja> icarus, so what's the problem then?
[18:16] <icarus> nexsja,  i want to play team fortress 2
[18:17] <melter> is anyone having probs connecting to archive.canonical.com?
[18:17] <yaris123456789> hey guys i have bunch of movie files on a server, .avi, .mkv, .mpg..... what program do i use to stream them ? meaning watch them on my computer ?
[18:17] <curtis_> why exactly isn't it upgrading an entire number?
[18:17] <dr_bro> curtis_: fsck didn't work. thanks though
[18:17] <libtech> icarus, windows :)
[18:17] <nexsja> icarus, afaik the support for that under wine is okay
[18:17] <curtis_> dr_bro, I tried :(
[18:17] <Hilikus> stefg: ok, it worked now but its still not in the list!!
[18:17] <stefg> yaris123456789: look at vlc / vls
[18:17] <nexsja> icarus, haven't tried it, though. I run cs1.6 non-steam version under wine :>
[18:17] <Slart> curtis_: 9.10 is released 2009, month 10... YEAR.MONTH
[18:18] <icarus> when i run the program  all i get is a gray screan
[18:18] <curtis_> Slart: You are now a god amongst men, mind if my followers worship you for a few days?
[18:18] <burkmat> rski: Is that so? :P ( #ubuntu-offtopic )
[18:18] <nexsja> icarus, did you tried googling for that?
[18:18] <stefg> !grub | Hilikus
[18:18] <icarus> yep
[18:18] <Slart> curtis_: sure.. go ahead.. I prefer roasted chicken.. no onions ;)
[18:18] <curtis_> word:screan ERROR: word not found
[18:19] <libtech> i use windows for gaming, never tried with linux.
[18:19] <icarus> so wine has direct x all ready
[18:19] <grim_> yaris123456789, I think "ushare" would do the trick
[18:19] <curtis_> Slart, are you sure you can't settle for babies because I have to be honest Cult Green (gogreen18ers) are masters at the art of infantile cookery
[18:19] <bernier> Hi, I want to break my system. How can I upgrade from jaunty to karmic?
[18:19] <hatter243> !upgrade
[18:19] <Flannel> bernier: see #ubuntu+1
[18:20] <bill_> linux will not see my palm tx-what am I failing to do?
[18:20] <Sensiva> Any news about Intel Graphics driver in Jaunty?
[18:20] <nexsja> libtech, too bad, wine can run a lot of win games :< that was the first reason i installed ubuntu. Didn't want the opportunity to play under linux :<
[18:20] <melter> is anyone having probs connecting to archive.canonical.com?
[18:21] <libtech> i mostly use linux on my netbook, netbooks != gaming. :)
[18:21] <Sensiva> melmex I do
[18:21] <Sensiva> melter *
[18:21] <Charles> anyone running Citadel email server..?
[18:21] <nexsja> netbook can be a waste of money. imo
[18:21] <Hilikus> i don't want to add the latest kernel to grub by hand, because i'm worried that if it is being added automatically maybe there is a reason
[18:21] <libtech> 370 dollars?
[18:21] <th0r> melter: http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/
[18:22] <Hilikus> anykno knows why a kernel version would not be added to grub?
[18:22] <CaptainCrook> Anybody know a good hunt/fishing game for linux?
[18:22] <bill_> i have a palm tx and i am having trouble connecting it to kpilot ... can i get some help ?
[18:22] <Charles> Citadel.. anyone.. ??
[18:22] <libtech> i think its more of a waste of money to blow 1300 dollars on a macbook and use it for facebook and email
[18:23] <icarus> CaptainCrook, lol  >hunting >fishing  >linux
[18:23] <stefg> CaptainCrook: tuxracer
[18:23] <timboy> if I set a static IP in network manager where do the settings get stored? /etc/network/interfaces only shows lo device not eth0
[18:23] <nexsja> i spent only 800$ for my asus m50vc, using it for work, gaming and even sex :<
[18:23] <libtech> nexsja: thanks for the info
[18:24] <imran_> whitor
[18:24] <libtech> i spent 1000 on my desktop, runs crysis on highs, tehe
[18:24] <CaptainCrook> hum hum i see... allright... i'll try to wine probass and deer hunter...
[18:24] <nexsja> libtech, not in the way you though :<
[18:24] <icarus> libtech, that is all you can use a mac book for
[18:24] <libtech> icarus: orly?
[18:25] <bill_> i have a palm tx and i am having trouble connecting it to kpilot ... can i get some help ?
[18:25] <icarus> libtech, yeah
[18:25] <cabezza> hi people
[18:25] <libtech> icarus: how do you figure?
[18:25] <danl> what are the dircolor equivalents of ow and tw?
[18:25] <melter> new2linx: when i uninstall the old flash plugin, it gets reinstalled through the firefox plugin installer
[18:25] <nexsja> bill_, tried #palm?
[18:25] <icarus> go back to /g/
[18:25] <cabezza> i need some help with my infrared remote control. I have a hp dv2621 notebook
[18:25] <libtech> icarus: ?
[18:26] <stefg> !lirc
[18:26] <cabezza> i'm using ubuntu 9.04
[18:26] <bill_> nexsja, the palm os will not see it, and kpilot does not work.
[18:26] <donnybrasco> #bluez
[18:26] <cabezza> ubottu i was using it in ubuntu 8.10 without lirc
[18:26] <melter> isn't this a serious security problem for ubuntu?
[18:26] <icarus> what is the significance of the !
[18:26] <nexsja> bill_, i mean the channel. If nobody answered your call then, perhaps, nobody knows...
[18:27] <libtech> has anyone tried live android?
[18:27] <cabezza> but, after the upgrade to 9.04 just stop working
[18:27] <bill_> nexsja, windows sees it and hotsyncs it, and the 2.1 edition had no trouble with it.
[18:27] <stefg> cabezza: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/+source/lirc/+bug/344871
[18:27] <nexsja> bill_, mb try virtualbox?
[18:27] <ToXiC_15> hi all
[18:28] <ToXiC_15> anyone know a badass OCR program for ubuntu?
[18:28] <nexsja> ocr?
[18:28] <genii> nexsja: Optical Character Recognition
[18:28] <cabezza> stefg i even have any message i my syslog
[18:29] <gbstack> guys,how can I know whether I have installed a rpm package,such as firestarter.rpm?
[18:29] <nexsja> genii, thanks :>
[18:29] <cabezza> mi lsusb does't show nothing about the ir
[18:29] <ToXiC_15> anyone know a very accurate OCR app?
[18:29] <fhorte_> Anyone knows a good server-monitoring program, open-source (like nagios)
[18:29] <Charles> Nagios works well...
[18:29] <grim_> fhorte_, maybe nagios !?
[18:29] <gbstack> any suggestion is appreciated.:)
[18:30] <cabezza> fhorte_ zabbix
[18:30] <cabezza> i'm using it in my work
[18:30] <cabezza> * job
[18:30] <Charles> It depends on the host .. if you are installing Nagios on Ubuntu.. configuration is simple..
[18:30] <bill_> nex thanks ill try it
[18:30] <fhorte_> grim_ i dont want to the client running on the actual server
[18:30] <fhorte_> I dont want apache to be installed on the server
[18:31] <timboy> if you right click and create a share from the gnome gui where does the config go?
[18:31] <grim_> fhorte_, there's a fork of nagios called incinga, I don't know the status of development but you should give it a try
[18:31] <bill_> nexsja, ill try it thanks
[18:31] <Rafase_282> hello
[18:31] <gbstack> I know I can use dpkg -s to see if a deb package is installed,but can it used for rpm package?
[18:31] <tusia> hi
[18:31] <Rafase_282> hello
[18:31] <fhorte_> grim_ ok ill check thx
[18:31] <grim_> np
[18:31] <tusia> does anyone use opensuse liveDE with kde 4.3?
[18:31] <boss_mc> gbstack: how did you even install the .rpm?
[18:31] <grawity> !rpm
[18:32] <grawity> boss_mc: Probably that way ^
[18:32] <Rafase_282> I need help, I put my sistem to hybernate and now it won't boot
[18:32] <boss_mc> grawity: that wsa going to be my next question
[18:32] <gbstack> ﻿boss_mc:I used alien to install the rpm package.
[18:32] <boss_mc> gbstack: then alien would have given you a .deb, which you installed as normal?
[18:32] <h1n1> iptables v1.4.1.1: Unknown arg `--gw'
[18:32] <boss_mc> gbstack: why use the rpm? firestarter is in the repos
[18:33] <h1n1> why --gw unavailable?
[18:33] <boss_mc> !info firestarter | gbstack
[18:33] <tusia> anyone can tell my why I still have upstream bootsplash instead of that with opensuse branding
[18:33] <tusia> ?
[18:33] <stefg> Rafase_282: boot to recovery mode once
[18:33] <h1n1> any idea?
[18:33] <Rafase_282> thanks, already did that, it worked
[18:34] <Rafase_282> now going to boot as normal
[18:34] <vesuvius23> can anyone tell me if ubuntu 8.04 has problems with ddr3  (12gig) ?  I can boot alright, but the systems hangs when I either shutdown or reboot (no response whatsoever from visual, keyboard or mouse)
[18:34] <timboy> if you right click and create a share from the gnome gui where does the config go?
[18:34] <gbstack> ﻿boss_mc:because I didn't know there was a firestarter deb package when I installed firestarter...
[18:35] <Hilikus> damnit. i just killed all my kernels trying to reinstall the latest kernel and now i can't boot into ubuntu. is there a way i can fix that or i just need to reinstall?
[18:35] <boss_mc> gbstack: well, if you installed the .deb that alien made using dpkg then you can uninstall it that way too
[18:36] <gbstack> ﻿boss_mc:oh,I see.thank you very much!:)
[18:36] <CaptainCrook> does a win32 virus runned trough wine affect a linux system?
[18:36] <stefg> Hilikus: congrats :-) fire up the desktop cd, chroot into your installed system and reinstall the kernel
[18:36] <Brazz> Everytime I try to activate my ATI driver (I use Mobility Radeon 9200), after a reboot the computer crash and I have to reinstall Ubuntu 9.04 again...
[18:36] <Brazz> anyone got any suggestions of what to do?
[18:37] <kennethd> my laptop's hdd is dead, does anyone know the boot option to ignore the physical disk when booting from live cd?
[18:37] <dumont> could someone suggest a bandwidth monitor tool that is NOT CONSOLE MODE?
[18:37] <Hilikus> stefg the only desktop cd i have is from feisty. could i use that to install the latest kernel?
[18:38] <joeyeye> kennethd: usually it's a BIOS option - depending on the BIOS it will be <DEL> <F12> or <F1> during the boot sequence to get in to the BIOS
[18:38] <Hilikus> stefg and what is chroot anyway?
[18:38] <stefg> Hilikus: can't tell... since you're going to work in chroot, the jaunty sources are applied. chroot == change root
[18:38] <paul__> hi all ...is anyone familiar with WinFF video converter? i'm trying to convert a .avi to dvd format and i'm unsure of which preset to use
[18:39] <vesuvius23> Hello, ﻿Can anyone tell me if ubuntu 8.04 has problems with ddr3  (12gig) ?  I can boot alright, but the systems hangs when I either shutdown or reboot (no response whatsoever from visual, keyboard or mouse), thanks
[18:39] <timboy> if you right click and create a share from the gnome gui where does the config go?
[18:39] <Hilikus> what's the difference between the 32 and 64bit versions of ubuntu?
[18:40] <timboy> Hilikus, 32 bits... :P
[18:40] <stefg> Hilikus: ermm.... you better make a backup of your files and reinstalll
[18:40] <grim_> heheh
[18:40] <Hilikus> i heard the flash player in the 64bit version is crap. is there such things? programs that work better in one over the other?
[18:40] <lstarnes> Hilikus: I haven't had any major issues in the 64-bit version
[18:40] <timboy> Hilikus, ubuntu 64 bit will install 32 bit flash player by default
[18:40] <dumont> What is the best bandwidth monitoring tool with a graphical interface (non-console) ?
[18:40] <Hilikus> stefg yes, that's what i'll do, now i'm trying to decide if i should go with 32bit this time
[18:40] <Hilikus> timboy and that would make it jumpy?
[18:40] <joeyeye> paul__: i don't know WinFF, but you're looking for MPEG2 PS and AC3 audio or MP2 audio
[18:40] <stefg> Hilikus: how much ram do you have ?
[18:41] <Hilikus> stefg 3G
[18:41] <timboy> Hilikus, if you want more than 3GB ram and don't want to mess with kernel then you have to go 64-bit
[18:41] <timboy> Hilikus, no issues ever with 64 bit and flash. Have over 15 machines running it.
[18:41] <stefg> Hilikus: and no upgrade in sight?
[18:42] <disappearedng> Hey how do I use wget or curl to download just links from a webpage ?
[18:42] <Hilikus> stefg don't think so. i was running 64bit and the only thing i notice was jumpy flash but i don't know if it was that it was the 64bit version. i heard someone here say that the flash player in 64bit was crap
[18:42] <grim_> disappearedng, wget http://path.to.file
[18:42] <dumont> What is the best bandwidth monitoring tool with a graphical interface (non-console) ?
[18:42] <donnybrasco> anyone know how to find the MAC address of a bluetooth device?
[18:43] <paul__> joeyeye: can you recommend a good video converter ? this one doesnt seem to be doing anything
[18:43] <disappearedng> grim_ what? how does that just download thelinks?
[18:43] <disappearedng> that downloads the whole file
[18:43] <paul__> joeyeye: im running jaunty if that helps any
[18:43] <lstarnes> disappearedng: you will need to download the whole file then filter the links from it
[18:43] <Balaji> Dear sirs, I have small issue, every time I boot my Ubuntu Jaunty.. Gnome Pilot applet starts automatically
[18:43] <stefg> Hilikus: the 64bit version has 32bit libs too, so it can run 32bit software... but if you're not going to use more than 3G then  32bit might be more convinient.
[18:43] <disappearedng> Istames: ok I will use beautifulsoup
[18:44] <grim_> disappearedng, oh sry thought you'd like to download a file
[18:44] <Hilikus> stefg why is it more convenient?
[18:44] <Balaji> can I remove it from startup
[18:44] <grebur> este vreun roman prin zona?
[18:44] <StrangeCharm> is there an install option to allow encryption with a keyfile rather than a passphrase [on the alt/server disk]?
[18:44] <timboy> Hilikus, are you sure you installed flashplugin-nonfree and not one of the other two pieces of crap? gnash or one I can't think of it's name
[18:44] <stefg> Hilikus: no need for compatibility hacks...
[18:44] <Hilikus> timboy yes. it was nonfree
[18:45] <Hilikus> stefg so there are compatibility issues
[18:45] <joeyeye> paul__: ffmpeg works for me
[18:45] <Balaji>  Dear sirs, I have small issue, every time I boot my Ubuntu Jaunty.. Gnome Pilot applet starts automatically. how can I remove it from startup
[18:45] <Hilikus> timboy it wasnt in all of them, just in some and again, i don't know if it really was because i had ubuntu64
[18:45] <stefg> Hilikus: not all precompiled software maybe available as 64bit version
[18:45] <joeyeye> donnybrasco: try hcitool scan
[18:46] <joeyeye> donnybrasco: or sudo hidd --search
[18:46] <Balaji> I dont have the applet installed any more
[18:46] <zokacasper> ciao
[18:46] <v3n0x> does anyone know where to get some nice fonts?
[18:47] <joeyeye> paul__: gstreamer works too
[18:47] <dumont> What is the best bandwidth monitoring tool with a graphical interface (non-console) ?
[18:47] <StrangeCharm> if my (fake)raid card is not being detected by the installer, is it possible to manually install drivers for it during install?
[18:48] <stefg> Hilikus: i'm running 64bit, but e.g. i can't run the precompiled seamonkey 2.0 beta  from mozilla... it'S done as 32bit. it runs, but all the plugins i have are 64bit, so the plugins don't work
[18:48] <Hilikus> stefg so it's for precompiled stuff only
[18:48] <Hilikus> that makes sense
[18:48] <donnybrasco> joeyeye: thanks, but it didn't work hcitool scan only showed a device that's not paired and sudo hidd --search returned nothing
[18:48] <Hilikus> stefg what is the actual ram limit in 32bits?
[18:48] <lstarnes> dumont: do you just need something that monitors bandwidth usage, or do you need something with more functionality?
[18:49] <Hilikus> according to windows i have 3.00GB RAM
[18:49] <joeyeye> donnybrasco: try hcitool dev ?
[18:49] <stefg> Hilikus: around 3,5 G ... 3,6 minus kernel
[18:49] <Gopi> How to find a Joystick which is just connected to a computer in /dev/input, other than /dev/input/js0?
[18:49] <joeyeye> donnybrasco: try hcitool inq ?
[18:49] <Hilikus> stefg if i had more than the limit, would it just not use it or there would be instability?
[18:50] <Balaji> Removed gnome Pilot applet pops up everytime during the startup, how can I prevent it
[18:50] <kennethd> joeyeye: I think I wasn't clear, the cd is in bootorder & ubuntu boots, but it tries to mount sda & errors just spew out for hours until i kill it.  I think there is a kernel boot option to ignore the drive (i tried sda=noprobe with no effect)
[18:50] <stefg> Hilikus: that'S teh reason why system builders fit 3 G ... it'S the maximum for 32bit XP
[18:50] <Spirits-Sight> is there a program that would allow me to see the htm file in a web directory
[18:50] <Balaji> Any Help, Removed gnome Pilot applet pops up every time during the start-up, how can I prevent it
[18:50] <stefg> Hilikus: it'S simply not used (beyond max. address)
[18:50] <dumont> lstarnes I need something that sits on my desktop, not too big of a graph and displays BW usage, total, today, upload, download, not too big, not too much functionality
[18:51] <naftilos76> hi everyone, i have a strange proble with evolution. i tried to delete a folder located in inbox folder and the emails inside that folder were deleted but not the folder itself! the message at the bottom says that the folder cannot be deleted because it is not empty. however i don't see any msgs in the folder!
[18:51] <a[2121]e> roh n
[18:51] <Slart> !info nload
[18:51] <donnybrasco> joeyeye: hcitool dev shows the adaptor address, hcitool inq shows "00:70:E0:A9:3B:CF	clock offset: 0x4f35	class: 0x100114" (no idea what that is)
[18:51] <Hilikus> ok so if i want to reinstall but keep as much of my settings as possible what should i keep? /home/ /etc/, what else?
[18:51] <dumont> checking nload now
[18:52] <stefg> !clone | Hilikus
[18:52] <hafiztang> hello
[18:52] <Brazz> anyone here who could assist me with an ATI driver's problem?
[18:52] <hafiztang> is there anyone can help me?
[18:52] <dumont> Slart I specifically said NON CONSOLE, wtf i need console BW monitor for?
[18:52] <defrysk> !anyone
[18:53] <hafiztang> help me pls
[18:53] <hafiztang> yellabs
[18:53] <Slart> dumont: I'm not even going to answer this
[18:53] <hafiztang> are u der?
[18:53] <Hilikus> stefg so to that i need to boot using a disk and chroot?
[18:53] <Brazz> Well everytime I install my videocard driver (Mobility Radeon 9200) at next reboot my computer freezes at logging screen, and the only way of solving it is by reinstalling
[18:53] <Brazz> anyone that could help me with that? ubottu?
[18:53] <stefg> Hilikus: right
[18:54] <StrangeCharm> the installer is not detecting hard drives connected to a hardware fakeraid device. how can i fix this?
[18:54] <hafiztang> hello, i just have new partition on my laptop
[18:54] <dumont> What is the best bandwidth monitoring tool with a graphical interface (non-console) I need a small graphical window that displays a chart of BW usage, upload download, and maybe a few statistics, the window should be very big?
[18:54] <stefg> Hilikus: but you need a 64bit kernel to chroot into a 64bit userland
[18:54] <hafiztang> nw i need to install ubuntu into new partition i just created
[18:54] <hafiztang> anyone can tell me how?
[18:54] <Hilikus> crap
[18:54] <dumont> shouldn't*
[18:54] <joeyeye> kennethd: do you care about the content on the hdd ?
[18:55] <iceroot> hafiztang: choose the partition and the installation-part
[18:55] <Hilikus> ok, last question, in windows i keep my data and settings separate from the OS, they are in different partitions. if i want to do the same in ubuntu what could and should i put in a separate partition? i've heard of putting /home, but a lot of system stuff is not really in /home
[18:55] <stefg> Hilikus: try the system rescue cd
[18:55] <stefg> !sysrescd
[18:56] <hafiztang> iceroot:  nw i already have vista inside
[18:56] <Brazz> ubottu: did you read what I said pal?
[18:56] <joeyeye> kennethd: try --read-only on the options
[18:56] <stefg> ... where is that &/&%/ factoid ?
[18:56] <hafiztang> iceroot:  is that possible if ubuntu as my secondary os?
[18:56] <Flannel> Hilikus: All of your data and settings are in /home
[18:56] <yowshi1> dammit yet another kernel upgrade!?!?!?!
[18:56] <Brazz> ubottu: how to install Mobility Radeon 9200 driver?
[18:56] <Slart> stefg: !forkbomb?
[18:56] <iceroot> hafiztang: of course. called dual boot
[18:56] <yowshi1> grrr now i have tio dig out my friggin pad to figure out how to reinstall my graphyics drivers
[18:56] <Hilikus> Flannel really? what about stuff from /etc
[18:56] <Slart> stefg: =)
[18:57] <stefg> :-)
[18:57] <Flannel> Hilikus: That's systemwide config, thats all installed with the packages
[18:57] <kennethd> joeyeye: no, it's dead.  i may have to resort to just pulling it & then booting the cd
[18:57] <Slart> !search rescue
[18:57] <hafiztang> iceroot:  but how to install into my desire partition
[18:57] <dumont> What is the best bandwidth monitoring tool with a graphical interface (non-console) I need a small graphical window that displays a chart of BW usage, upload download, and maybe a few statistics, the window shouldn't be very big?
[18:57] <Flannel> !repeat | dumont
[18:57] <hafiztang> iceroot:  i ran the ubuntu installer and i dont which one is my new partition
[18:57] <Flannel> Hilikus: You might modify some stuff in there over time, but unless you're running servers or whatnot, most of your things won't be from there.
[18:57] <hafiztang> iceroot:  getting puzzled
[18:58] <stefg> !sysreccd | Hilikus
[18:58] <joeyeye> kennethd: i'm not sure that livecd doesn't require a hdd present for swap space ... ?
[18:58] <stefg> !sysresccd | Hilikus
[18:58] <stefg> ... finally ..
[18:58] <hafiztang> iceroot:  there only show size ..in windows it stated as drive E:
[18:58] <wildc4rd> evening all
[18:58] <Hilikus> by now is it ok to have /boot and / in ext4 or it's still recommended to have them in ext3?
[18:58] <Brazz> ubottu: install Mobility 9200?
[18:58] <Flannel> Hilikus: No, ext4 still is subject to dataloss
[18:58] <Brazz> ubottu: go fuck yourself =)
[18:59] <StrangeCharm> how can i manually activate a disk controler that the installer hasn't detected?
[18:59] <Slart> Hilikus: if you can guarantee the system will never crash suddenly ext4 might be ok =)
[18:59] <Hilikus> Flannel ist ext4 the standard fs in the next ubuntu? is it supposed to be fixed by then or what?
[18:59] <dumont> how hard is it to suggest a damned bandwidth meter with a graphical interface?
[19:00] <stefg> StrangeCharm: by installing the right kernel module/driver
[19:00] <Brazz> anyone how to install the Mobilit 9200 driver?
[19:00] <Brazz> Mobility*
[19:01] <mneptok> dumont: it's really easy to suggest it. you just did. but in a place no one will listen.
[19:01] <disappearedng> I am sorry but I gotta get this clear
[19:01] <StrangeCharm> stefg, where can i find details about the kernel-modules/drivers that i'll need.? also, what can i use to install things during the installer - aptitude isn't present yet?
[19:01] <burkmat> dumont: ...yeah, damn right. If it's so easy to find, find it yourself?
[19:01] <Flannel> burkmat: Please don't be rude.
[19:01] <lstarnes> dumont: I can't think of anything that does exactly what you are asking for, but there is an applet for network monitoring
[19:02] <bill_> i just installed vituralbox on unbuntu 9.04 and the vituralbox icon didnt show ... how do i make it sho up on the menu
[19:02] <j484r> Evening all...
[19:02] <burkmat> Flannel: Impatience bugs me, especially when they're rude about it... My apologies.
[19:02] <Slart> bill_: afaik it should show up in Applications, accessories
[19:02] <dumont> burkmat i'm been looking smartguy, haven't found a small graphical windowed app yet
[19:02] <lstarnes> dumont: if you're using gnome, right-click on the panel, select "add to panel", and look for "network monitor"
[19:02] <Brazz> why don't you wash the loundry on another channel and leave this clear for them who wanna help?
[19:02] <dumont> KDE
[19:02] <Charles> bill: easy way log out and log back in..
[19:02] <stefg> StrangeCharm: you first need to find out your hardware ... read lspci and dmesg. Then you need to determine waht module you need, and if izs there and loaded .. lsmod ...
[19:02] <bill_> Slart, isnt there ... usually should show in the system tools
[19:03] <lstarnes> dumont: which version of kde?
[19:03] <Brazz> I can't install the proper driver for my video card, I really need some help here.
[19:03] <Slart> bill_: you installed it from the repos?
[19:03] <dumont> 5.47 i think
[19:03] <j484r> I've been using ubuntu 9.04 on vbox for a while now and yesterday, it did some updates.. when rebooted.. i get a mashed up screen all tight and cannot see the login/password.. does any body know how to fix this problem..?
[19:03] <bill_> Slart, synaptic package manager
[19:04] <stefg> StrangeCharm: if you conclude you have no driver you need to hunt it down with the help of google, compile it (if it exists) install and modprobe it
[19:04] <Slart> bill_: hmm.. try reinstalling it.. just in case something didn't finish
[19:04] <lstarnes> dumont: you could probably try conky.  If it's KDE 4, there may be a plasma applet for network monitoring
[19:04] <Brazz> I have the same problem as j484 when I install the ATI driver suggested to my Video card
[19:04] <bill_> Slart,i think there is a command you can write and it will show i think
[19:04] <Brazz> any suggestions?
[19:04] <Charles> bill_: have you logged out and logged back in..?
[19:05] <azlon> i have another laptop running ubutnu that is about 8 years old. i have it running 9.04 but it struggles. is there another version that would be a better fit for an older laptop? also, how do i find out what process is making my system hang?
[19:05] <ScottG> What is a command that will hang but won't use a lot of resources? I need something to put at the end of my .xinitrc
[19:05] <imrann> whats the "best" channel that has a list of best apps
[19:05] <Slart> !xubuntu | azlon
[19:05] <iceroot> azlon: have a look with "top"
[19:05] <j484r> Brazz : i can sort of guess when i login but the main screen is the same, all mashed up and see my wallpaper all tight...
[19:05] <bill_> Charles, LET ME TRY THAT
[19:05] <itswhatev> does anyone have a workaround for brasero's inability to detect my blank cd-r?
[19:05] <imrann> whats the "best" channel that has a list of best apps?
[19:05] <Slart> imrann: "best" according to who?
[19:05] <lstarnes> imrann: irc channel?
[19:05] <StrangeCharm> stefg, i'm not sure that i have the expertise to parse these files. what should i be looking for, viz comparing the device with its driver? the manufacturer's website lists an open source driver for this device, can i just get that?
[19:06] <burkmat> ScottG: What exactly do you want it to do? You want a command that simply waits?
[19:06] <Flannel> !best | imrann
[19:06] <Charles> bill_: I installed the binary from virtualbox.org.. and that is what I did..
[19:06] <stefg> StrangeCharm: can you run a Live CD on that machine ?
[19:06] <imrann> Flannel, thats what i was loooing for - that channel, thanks!!!
[19:06] <Slart> ScottG: I think there is a "sleep" command
[19:06] <Brazz> J484: well my problem is just after installing my video card's driver
[19:07] <Brazz> I've been in this channel yelling for help for about 1 hour now but its hard for people to help me, for some reason
[19:07] <Charles> bill_: it did work on all 3 of my boxes..did not know VB was in the repositories
[19:07] <ScottG> burkmat: Yea. My X starts with .xinitrc. But at the end it needs a command to hang on.
[19:07] <azlon> Slart: thanks. i am using the older laptop to play video files from another machine? is there a program that is less resource intensive than another? like vlc or something?
[19:07] <StrangeCharm> stefg, yes. does the server disk not have the tools i need?
[19:07] <Slart> Brazz: perhaps you can improve your question.. have a look at the !details factoid
[19:07] <stefg> !ati | Brazz
[19:07] <j484r> i see lines... problem is how can we troubleshoot if the screen is all fuzzy
[19:07] <ScottG> Slart: Yea I guess i could just put a really large number to sleep on
[19:07] <linxeh> hmm
[19:08] <j484r> I belive my cocked up when i accepted the kernel update
[19:08] <gse7en> Simple question:  I'm running GNOME 2.26.  I'd like to make a shortcut on my desktop to launch a dedicated quake 3 server in a console.  There's no "run in terminal checkbox."  If the command is "q3 +vars", what should have tell the launcher to do?
[19:08] <burkmat> ScottG: Aah.. Well then sleep is no good, because eventually it will finish. ;) I... don't know really. Maybe have it ask for input and never give any?
[19:08] <Slart> azlon: I've actually never measured that.. not sure if vlc is "lighter" than any of the others..
[19:08] <stefg> StrangeCharm: you need a working environment first that gives you the neede info
[19:08] <Flannel> ScottG, burkmat: echo "" | less
[19:08] <azlon> Slart: i will just do a little trial and error. thanks!
[19:08] <Slart> azlon: good luck
[19:08] <HighLordObsi> farfignugens
[19:08] <burkmat> Flannel: Interesting solution, good idea. :)
[19:08] <imrann> not sure, gse7en try changing the "type" to app in terminal or what ever it says
[19:09] <Shu> My Ubuntu machine says that "Only one software management tool is allowed to tun at the same time" even though I have no other windows open and have restarted my computer 3 times. Any help?
[19:09] <j484r> is there a safe mode option in ubuntu?
[19:09] <Slart> gse7en: if you want it to run in a visible terminal you can use "gnome-terminal".. man gnome-terminal for options
[19:09] <burkmat> Shu: Perhaps something is running in the background. Have you tried waiting for it to finish?
[19:09] <lstarnes> j484r: there is a recovery mode in the boot menu
[19:09] <StrangeCharm> stefg, even if i already know the exact device and where to get the driver?
[19:09] <Slart> gse7en: you can also run "bash" with some switches.. that won't show up on your screen though.. but it will run in the background
[19:10] <gse7en> Slart That's not the objective.  The objective is to run a program in terminal using a shortcut on the GNOME desktop, not to run a terminal.
[19:10] <grebur> Can anyone help me in postfix+dovecot troubleshouting?
[19:10] <grebur> Can anyone help me in postfix+dovecot troubleshouting?
[19:10] <eul> yes
[19:10] <j484r> grub menu?
[19:10] <gse7en> I have tried the && switch and to pipe the command into terminal, neither worked.
[19:10] <joeyeye> grebur: what do you need ?
[19:10] <Shu> burkmat, I've restarted my computer 3 times, and it's been sitting logged in for 20 minutes without me thouching anything because I wasn't even at my computer after I signed in
[19:10] <MK13> gse7en, why not just create a bash script instead of a shortcut?
[19:11] <gse7en> MK13 would that run in the foreground in a terminal?
[19:11] <Slart> gse7en: and "gnome-terminal -e top" doesn't qualify as a shortcut?
[19:11] <Charles> greybur: what is Ur issue ?
[19:11] <burkmat> Shu: Huh... Using GNOME? If so, is there any gray symbol in the status bar saying anything about updates in progress?
[19:11] <gse7en> Slart Where's the Q3 command go in that?
[19:11] <MK13> gse7en, yea, i use that way to run an UrbanTerror server in terminal
[19:11] <donnybrasco> anyone know where I would find my .asoundrc file?
[19:11] <Slart> gse7en: you put it there instead of "top"
[19:12] <dare> sudo find / -name .asoundrc
[19:12] <gse7en> Excellent.
[19:12] <dare> maybe it's in ~/.asoundrc though?
[19:12] <imrann> Is there a channel to just ask about what ppl recommend I do if im new to ubuntu and just kinda wanna get my grip on it?
[19:12] <Slart> imrann: we can recommend stuff.. just don't ask what is "best" =)
[19:12] <stefg> !best
[19:12] <Shu> burkmat, yes, gnome, but where's the statusbar? Is it one of the two bars on the top and bottom of my screen? Because there's no gray symbols on either
[19:12] <Slart> imrann: but you'll have to give us some background.. what you want to achieve and such
[19:12] <gwildor> not that i know of imrann , just play, have fun, break stuff, then fix it
[19:13] <gse7en> Slart that did the trick, cheers.
[19:13] <j484r> cheers istarnes!! didn't realise i had to press esc when it loads... using vbox...
[19:13] <imrann> If this wasn't my only computer, and its a dualboot, i would have broke it already :d
[19:13] <dare> imrann, writing scripts to automate bash commands in python sounds like fun?
[19:13] <burkmat> imrann: I suggest you start by getting used to the command line interface (CLI). google "linux basics termminal" or such and just play around. :)
[19:13] <imrann> What do i want to achieve... A system that replaces Windows well without going over board, and still having fun with it
[19:14] <StrangeCharm> stefg, i gues my question is whether the live environment with a gui is that much more important than the environment on the installer?
[19:14] <imrann> I put ubuntu on my PS3 and PWNED with terminal
[19:14] <burkmat> Shu: Hm... what are you trying to install?
[19:14] <imrann> But still don't no all the commands like man things n all the sudos n what not.
[19:14] <donnybrasco> thanks dare
[19:14] <blackbeard_> >	guys..am on linux. using ff 3.5. when i play scrabble i get only 50% of the scrabble game page..any solutions?
[19:14] <aaroninfidel> if I wanted to record audio from my playback device what program would you recommend?
[19:14] <imrann> dare, do you bone when you say the word python to yourself?
[19:14] <burkmat> imrann: Well... When I'm bored I just sit down with bash, type a letter and double-tab, find an app that looks remotely interesting and read the man-page. :P
[19:14] <iceroot> aaroninfidel: audio recorder
[19:14] <Shu> burkmat, a limewire .deb that I downloaded. I get to the packege installer, click install, and then I get the error
[19:15] <Slart> aaroninfidel: not sure if audactiy can do it..  give it a try
[19:15] <imrann> lol
[19:15] <Slart> !info audacity
[19:15] <imrann> How to read the "man" page
[19:15] <stefg> StrangeCharm: actually you're right... it's more a matter of comfort... AND: you won't be able to precompile a driver from the installer, but from a Live environment with gui
[19:15] <imrann> Sorry, that was a question meant to put a ? at the end
[19:15] <j484r> aaaarrhhh, back to square one again.... LOL
[19:15] <iceroot> aaroninfidel: its installed by default. apllications - media    (dont know the english translation)
[19:15] <Slart> imrann: if you want to read the man page for.. say the "ls" command.. you type "man ls" in a terminal
[19:16] <gebruiker> bouke
[19:16] <blackbeard_> >	guys..am on linux. using ff 3.5. and flash plugin 10. when i play scrabble in facebook. i get only 50% of the scrabble game page..any solutions?
[19:16] <dare> why not learn how to use vi?
[19:16] <Slart> blackbeard_: let me guess.. the rest of the page is black?
[19:16] <aaroninfidel> iceroot: yes, but how do I make it record my playback device rather then my microphone?
[19:16] <StrangeCharm> stefg, the installer disk doesn't have the tools needed to compile a driver from a .tar?
[19:16] <iceroot> aaroninfidel: choose device
[19:16] <j484r> ran the recovery console and did all the repair possible... and booted up normal and still the same problem.. could be vbox caused this problem ...?
[19:16] <blackbeard_> not exactly Slart
[19:16] <Flinty> How much Swap space is required to enable Hibernate? Same amount as RAM ?
[19:16] <Slart> Flinty: yes
[19:16] <dare> StrangeCharm, the installer disc does not even have ruby!! :(
[19:16] <lstarnes> Flinty: at least
[19:16] <abel408> Hello everyone. Whenever I try "modprobe kvm-intel" I get this error: "WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/options, it will be ignored in a future release." and nothing else Whats that mean?
[19:17] <stefg> StrangeCharm: not in the installer environment ... you need gcc, binutils and the kernel headers
[19:17] <Slart> blackbeard_: oh.. we've had some people with half-black screens in ff35.. might not be the same problem then
[19:17] <aaroninfidel> iceroot: the only thing I have for input is "Capture"
[19:17] <blackbeard_> i can only view 50% of scrabble on the entire grid
[19:17] <Artarian> Can someone tell me how can i get process list through SNMP ? I DONT WANT any mrtg like cacti nagios, whatever
[19:17] <Shu> burkmat, still there?
[19:17] <Flinty> cheers
[19:17] <gwildor> Flinty, i normally go a tad more than ram....just incase i have data in swap.... already used swap + ram .....
[19:17] <dare> Atarian, mrtg cacti nagios?
[19:17] <iceroot> aaroninfidel: hm, strange. other apps are detecting line-in?
[19:18] <StrangeCharm> stefg, i suppose that i'll just start a live session. but where am i going to put the compiled driver when i'm done, so that it's available in the installer?
[19:18] <Artarian> dare a pure snmpget function or snmpwalk one...
[19:18] <stefg> StrangeCharm: floppy... usb-stick...
[19:18] <dare> ic
[19:18] <Flinty> I'll aim for 2.5GB swap as I have 2GB RAM
[19:18] <burkmat> Shu: Yeah, thinking... I'm not too familiar with how it determines if something is working. Try running `sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade`.
[19:18] <Slart> Artarian: not sure if there are any simple snmp clients... perhaps you could write something in python/perl or similar
[19:18] <slayton> where is the python package directory in ubuntu?
[19:18] <burkmat> Shu: That might give us a hint.
[19:18] <aaroninfidel> iceroot: I haven't tried with any other apps.
[19:18] <Artarian> somebody could have a script with that
[19:19] <Shu> burkmat, my Ubuntu machine isn't connected to the internet. Does that matter?
[19:19] <Slart> slayton: how do you mean? package directory?
[19:19] <StrangeCharm> stefg, let's see if i can rustle up one of those. switching to live disk now
[19:19] <burkmat> Shu: Ah... Never mind then. ;) Was attempting to update it. Try running `sudo apt-get -f install`, maybe something is stuck in the pipes. :)
[19:19] <Slart> slayton: you can run "where python" in a terminal to see folders that contain the word "python"
[19:19] <slayton> Slart, ok I'll try that
[19:20] <Brazz> ubuttu: thank you
[19:20] <Shu> I can connect it to the internet burkmat, just let me hook it up. I'll be back in about 30 seconds
[19:20] <Brazz> Ubottu: Thank yu
[19:20] <burkmat> Shu: Alright.
[19:20] <donnybrasco> dare: it's in my home folder, now how do I edit that file? :) sorry if it's a dumb question
[19:20] <blackbeard_> Slart: http://i27.tinypic.com/154im39.png
[19:20] <al_x> how do i pass each line of a file to the same command in bash
[19:20] <al_x> like if i wanted to ping 5 hosts
[19:21] <stefg> StrangeCharm: BTW i got disconnected after i asked you what disk controller that is... maybe there'S a tutorial or even som 3rd party .deb for it
[19:21] <burkmat> al_x: ...and you had a file with IPs in it?
[19:21] <Slart> blackbeard_: hmm.. annoying.. not sure what to do about that
[19:21] <Shu> burkmat, okay. What was that command again?
[19:21] <blackbeard_> ok Slart tyvm for your time
[19:21] <Hilikus> stefg what about the proprietary nvidia video drivers, are those available in 64bit or they run in compatibility mode?
[19:21] <Slart> blackbeard_: you're welcome.. let us know if you find out how to fix it
[19:21] <burkmat> al_x: could try something like `cat IP_list | xargs -n 1 ping -c 1 `?
[19:22] <panzer> ok on a 500gig drive what is the format time.  how long should I look at the 33% partition status
[19:22] <panzer> ?
[19:22] <stefg> Hilikus: available as 64bit
[19:22] <burkmat> Shu: `sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade`
[19:22] <StrangeCharm> stefg, it's a highpoint rocketraid 1540 controler (faekraid) but i'm going to use it as a plain sata controler to install a softraid on.
[19:22] <Charles> panzer: just wait it will jump..
[19:22] <Shu> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[19:22] <Slart> panzer: I think it depends a little on the file system.. but you'll have time to get some coffee.. 20 minutes or more
[19:22] <Shu> Thats what it gave me burkmat
[19:22] <burkmat> Shu: Try doing what it said. :)
[19:22] <HighLordObsi> dagnabbit....can't seem to install my wireless driver
[19:23] <stefg> StrangeCharm: i see... why not bypass that useless piece of hardware and plug the disks directly to the MB ?
[19:23] <tavi> Hey all: I would like to create a symlink that automatically expands to the original path: in other words, I want to go to ~/folder and have that automatically direct me to /dev/blah/blah/blah/folder -- can I do that with symlinks? if not, how can I do that?
[19:23] <panzer> Slart: thanks I left and went and got lunch when trying the 320gig and it still had not moved
[19:23] <Slart> panzer: ouch..
[19:23] <Shu> Processing triggers for man-db ...
[19:23] <Shu> Processing triggers for doc-base ...
[19:23] <Shu> Processing 2 added doc-base file(s)...
[19:23] <Shu> Registering documents with scrollkeeper...
[19:23] <Shu> chase@chase-desktop:~$
[19:23] <FloodBot1> Shu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:23] <Shu> whoops
[19:23] <Charles> tavi: use vi.. ln -s <source> <destination>
[19:23] <StrangeCharm> stefg, because i don't have enough sata ports on the mobo
[19:23] <donnybrasco> can anyone help me modify my ~/.asoundrc file?
[19:23] <dumont> what determines whether a useradd newuser has administrative privilages like root or not? where are the privilages define and setup? also does useradd simply make the lowest privilaged user above guest?
[19:23] <Shu> anyways, thats what I got burkmat
[19:24] <Alchemestrum> Installed Ubuntu 9.04 on my Dell XPS M1530..its suffering from the hard drive clicking noise.. some fixes suggest it should be done while others warn you could burn out your hard drive... anyone have any suggestions?
[19:24] <dumont> I'm in console mode
[19:24] <blackbeard_> Slart : sure
[19:24] <burkmat> Shu: Try installing your .deb again. :) Also, if you need to paste multiple lines in the future, use http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/ :)
[19:25] <stefg> StrangeCharm: ok... so would it be an option to first only connect one disk to the mobo, install and set up and then putting the system over to the raid?
[19:25] <HighLordObsi> hmm...every time i try to open a windows driver as per the ndiswrapper instructions all it tells me is that its not a zip file :(
[19:25] <dumont> burkmat does useradd -r user mean that the -r option creating a system account mean that it is like root account?
[19:26] <dumont> how can I look up which user has which privilages via console?
[19:26] <StrangeCharm> stefg, because i don't want the whole system on the raid, only certain directories
[19:26] <stefg> StrangeCharm: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=814510
[19:27] <burkmat> dumont: Uhm... My useradd doesn't seem to have an -r switch.
[19:27] <th0r> burkmat: try adduser
[19:27] <burkmat> th0r: Well, he asked about a specific useradd switch. :p figured he meant useradd.
[19:27] <elitedevx> is there anyway to enable the keyboard right click menu button to simulate a right click in kde? on my netbook, my touchpad right click does not work for some reason. does anyone know of a solution. the button on the keyboard does open the rightclick menu in applications such as firefox and pidgin but nothing at all if used on the desktop or anywhere else for kde itself.
[19:28] <stefg> StrangeCharm: fine ... so just install the / (root) system first to one directly connected disk... you can then make the raid when you have already an installed system... much easier
[19:28] <Zzeiss1> Well, you can _turn it off_ (i.e. recover from a bad install) by booting in single-user terminal mode, editing your xorg.conf file, and changing the driver from whatever it is to "driver VESA".
[19:28] <th0r> burkmat: ah.....sorry
[19:28] <yowshi1> i am getting slightly annoyed at having to reinstallmy graphics drivers every couple of weeks
[19:28] <Zzeiss1> Since compiz depends on the 3-d graphics which aren't supported in VESA, it will drop back to metacity or whatever else you have.
[19:29] <Shu> burkmat, now I get this message in the status in the package installer:
[19:29] <Shu> Error: Failed to satisfy all dependencies (broken cache)
[19:29] <Zzeiss1> oopps... delayed response.
[19:29] <StrangeCharm> stefg, so it's possible to move (say) /home to another disk later on in the process?
[19:29] <StrangeCharm> stefg, as in, post install?
[19:29] <C-S-B> StrangeCharm: yes
[19:29] <stefg> StrangeCharm: welcome to the wonderful of unixoid operating systems :-) ...
[19:29] <Halitech> StrangeCharm, yes http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome
[19:29] <tavi> Charles: that wont function as a redirect, though
[19:29] <saprophyte> how do i find the device path to my usb device? ubuntu 9.04
[19:30] <Charles> tavi: ah.. must have misunderstood your question..
[19:30] <Halitech> saprophyte, what type of usb device?
[19:30] <Keiffer> How can I make md5sum file for all the files in a folder?
[19:30] <burkmat> Shu: Hmm... Try `sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get check`?
[19:30] <saprophyte> Halitech it is a GPS reciever
[19:30] <Slart> Keiffer: md5sum /some/folder/*  I think
[19:30] <Halitech> saprophyte, try lsusb
[19:31] <StrangeCharm> stefg, C-S-B, Halitech thanks for that, and sorry for wasting so much of your time working out that was what was needed
[19:31] <durt> Keiffer, you could tar or compress them.
[19:31] <j484r> I have ubuntu 64bit on vbox and recently ran some updates. When it rebooted it screen is all smashed up wiuth lines and swash up... would anybody know if this is a ubuntu problem or vbox?
[19:31] <saprophyte> Halitech its shows up there, on bus 2 it says, but im looking for the path like /dev/whatever   .... noob here
[19:31] <Shu> now what burkmat
[19:31] <Keiffer> Slart, yes, but  I want to export them to a .md5 file
[19:31] <Keiffer> for later verify
[19:32] <Shu> E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f.
[19:32] <burkmat> Shu: Does it work? ^^
[19:32] <Keiffer> durt, why? why would that help me?
[19:32] <Shu> E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f.     burkmat
[19:32] <Slart> Keiffer: md5sum /some/folder/* > yourfile.md5 ?
[19:32] <elitedevx> saprophyte: /dev/ttyUSB0
[19:32] <burkmat> Shu: Ah... Try using -f. :P `sudo apt-get -f install`
[19:32] <Shu> y/n burkmat?
[19:32] <durt> Keiffer, what do you mean export them to a .md5?
[19:32] <Halitech> saprophyte, if its on bus 2 then probably /dev/ttyUSB1 but I'm guessing
[19:32] <Keiffer> durt, yes.
[19:33] <burkmat> Shu: Huh?
[19:33] <elitedevx> you can just see if your receiving a gps signal by cat'ing the device
[19:33] <Halitech> j484r, probably a driver issue with the video card
[19:33] <Shu> Do you want to continue [Y/n]
[19:33] <Keiffer> Slart, Thanks! it works! Tried with -a --all and stuff
[19:33] <burkmat> Shu: I don't know, do you? :P It's kind of hard without knowing what it's asking, but usually it's Yes...
[19:33] <elitedevx> try 'cat /dev/ttyUSB0' or 'cat /dev/ttyUSB1'
[19:33] <jjg> hi .. can someone point me to where I can learn how to create a custom ubuntu?
[19:33] <Shu> Sorry for all of the questions. This is my first day with Ubuntu
[19:34] <Keiffer> Slart, do you know how to include subfolders and how could I compare that md5 file?
[19:34] <saprophyte> Halitech Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0bda:0158 is what lsusb shows for it   sor /dev/ttyUSB1   ?
[19:34] <j484r> So its is it ubuntu bug or vbox bug Halitech?
[19:34] <burkmat> Shu: No problem, it's just difficult to answer a Yes/No question without knowing the question. ^^
[19:34] <Shu> It said it would do something that would take up 103MB.....   <_<
[19:34] <elitedevx> saprophyte: try the commands 'cat /dev/ttyUSB0' or 'cat /dev/ttyUSB1'
[19:34] <jduggan> is there a channel specific to unr?
[19:35] <Halitech> j484r, neither, incompatiblility between xorg and your video card drivers
[19:35] <elitedevx> saprophyte: once you see any data then you know you got the right one
[19:35] <saprophyte> both are not valid directory
[19:35] <Slart> Keiffer: I would do something like   "find ./ -exec md5sum {} \;"
[19:35] <Halitech> jjg, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/minimal
[19:35] <burkmat> Shu: It's probably trying to fix the broken dependencies or update.
[19:35] <Slart> Keiffer: you can modify that to only find actual files and not folders.. check "man find" for more switches and voodoo
[19:36] <jucajuca> hei, I tried to rescue my grub but Ive done a root(hdX,X) to the wrong place and now I get the message unrecognized commands in grub
[19:36] <j484r> That is interesting, your'll have to forgive me... was working prior the kernel update i did... Halitech
[19:36] <jucajuca> does someone knows how to solve this
[19:36] <jjg> Halitech, thanks
[19:36] <Halitech> j484r, try reinstalling the vbox addons
[19:36] <elitedevx> saprophyte: send me the output of lsusb and ill let you know
[19:36] <Keiffer> Slart, thanks !! i'll do that
[19:36] <Shu> burkmat,  it brought up something in the terminal that looks like it was written in C++, with 14 different bullets and <Ok> at the bottom
[19:36] <imrann> I know this is off topic but I just wanna say YOU GUYS ARE AMAZING AND HELPED WITH EVERY PROBLEM ID HAD AND KEEP UP THE AMAZING, GREAT WORK!
[19:37] <burkmat> Shu: I... Have no idea what that is, but if I had to guess I'd say it's an EULA.
[19:37] <Slart> Keiffer: find ./ -type f -exec {} \;   will only find files..
[19:37] <jjg> Halitech .. if I want to create a custom installation medium with all of the packages i want, do I simply install ubuntu .. configure it how i want, then use a utility or something to burn installation media?
[19:37] <Halitech> imrann, the spirit of Ubuntu at work :)
[19:37] <StrangeCharm> how can i check how much ram i have?
[19:37] <Shu> wait burkmat , I figured out how to click <ok>
[19:37] <imrann> halitech All hail Gnu :D
[19:37] <Shu> It was for some Java stuff
[19:37] <burkmat> Slart: What are you trying to do with find?
[19:37] <stefg> StrangeCharm: free -.m
[19:37] <Slart> Keiffer: sorry,    find ./ -type f -exec md5sum {} \;   will only find files..
[19:37] <burkmat> Shu: Ah. Well you probably want to accept that EULA.
[19:37] <Keiffer> Slart, yep I see that. It's helpful. Now I am trying to find out how to export all to a file
[19:37] <Slart> burkmat: creating a recursive md5sum thing
[19:37] <Halitech> jjg, yes http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/remastersys
[19:38] <Slart> Keiffer: just add > somefile.md5 at the end
[19:38] <Keiffer> maybe find ./ -type f -exec md5sum > file.md5 {} \;
[19:38] <jjg> Halitech, thanks
[19:38] <burkmat> Slart: Ah. Alright, looked quite odd with -exec not filled with anything. :p
[19:38] <Slart> Keiffer: use >> instead of >  ... >> means add to file.. > means replace
[19:38] <neo_> hi
[19:38] <Slart> Keiffer: or just put it at the very end..
[19:39] <NightEyes1> does ubuntu burn .nrg images by default?
[19:39] <Slart> Keiffer: find ./ -type f -exec md5sum {} \; > checksum.md5
[19:39] <burkmat> Slart, Keiffer; Wouldn't you want to `md5sum {} > md5filethingy`?
[19:39] <Keiffer> Slart, super. How did you learn all the syntax?
[19:39] <Slart> Keiffer: blood, sweat and tears.. mostly tears I think =)
[19:39] <jucajuca> hi, I tried to rescue my grub but Ive done a root(hdX,X) to the wrong place and now I get the message unrecognized commands in grub
[19:39] <Keiffer> Slart, cool. But any manual? :P
[19:39] <Slart> burkmat: won't that just overwrite the md5 file for every file
[19:39] <flyingtabmow> anyone know why the keyboard shortcuts preference window doesn't accept keys in combination with the super key?
[19:39] <Slart> Keiffer: "man find" =)
[19:40] <kamen> hey all. still looking for some help with my graphics, radeon HD 4200
[19:40] <saprophyte> elitedevx, http://paste.ubuntu.com/248167/
[19:40] <Keiffer> burkmat, that's useful too
[19:40] <Shu> Processing triggers for libc6 ...
[19:40] <Shu> ldconfig deferred processing now taking place
[19:40] <burkmat> Slart: Yeah, my point was more that you needed `md5sum blah >> file` rather than `md5sum >> file blah` that you had in an earlier commandline. :)
[19:40] <Shu> burkmat, it's done
[19:40] <kamen> but now more confused than ever since web says this should be already supported
[19:40] <burkmat> Shu: Everything working?
[19:40] <Shu> I'll try
[19:40] <stefg> Keiffer, Slart : and after a while with unix/linux everything just falls into place ... once you got the hang, everything is quite logical
[19:41] <elitedevx> saprophyte: your usb gps is not being detected. is it plugged in? is the device powered on?
[19:41] <Halitech> kamen, did you check hardware drivers and see if the driver was there?
[19:41] <Slart> burkmat: ah.. I wrote that? anyways.. I agree totally
[19:41] <saprophyte> elitedevx it is, when i unplug it, the realtek mass storage dissapears
[19:41] <kn100> if an application (nexuiz) takes control of the mouse
[19:41] <kamen> halitech: not sure what you mean
[19:41] <kn100> how can i return the mouse to ubuntu so i can reply to IM etc
[19:41] <elitedevx> saprophyte: what model of gps is it?
[19:41] <saprophyte> elitedevx tomtom one
[19:42] <Halitech> kamen, hardware drivers under the system menu (I think) should have the proprietary drivers if they exist
[19:42] <Keiffer> stefg, yea.. maybe. I have it for 4 moths now, and I only regret I didn't saw how powerful it is
[19:42] <kamen> halitech: yes, its there but enabling that one causes much grief. its ugly, and has already resulted in my reinstalling once
[19:43] <amd64> guys, moving from debian5 to ubuntu server, will aptitude have faster/more updated packages for  me?
[19:43] <Slart> Keiffer: "find" is one of those very useful commands to know.. any time you spend reading that man page is time well spent.. it will help you many times in the future
[19:43] <Halitech> kamen, what do you mean by its ugly?
[19:43] <kamen> however, http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NzQyOQ  this says the open source ones should already support my board fully. and I cant figure out why it aint workin
[19:43] <saprophyte> elitedevx,  i power cycled the gps and got this in lsusb now Bus 003 Device 002: ID 1390:0001 TOMTOM B.V.
[19:43] <iceroot> amd64: debian is faster then ubuntu with updates
[19:44] <kamen> halitech: when I enable fglrx for this thing under the hardware drivers, I get the "unsupported hardware" watermark in the corner and things start freezing
[19:44] <Keiffer> Slar, yesterday i got stuck a the mentioned command. didnt read it cause it was soo lenghty
[19:44] <Shu> burkmat, it's working! Thank you
[19:44] <Halitech> kamen, ok, so what do you mean by the open source drivers aren't working?
[19:44] <ryan8403_work> is there a problem with the repos?
[19:44] <imran> Sorry i disconnected
[19:44] <j484r> whats the shutdown cmd for ubuntu in text mode?
[19:44] <warpcore> hello
[19:44] <stefg> amd64: rumour has it that ubuntu is an ancient african saying for: i can't configure debian
[19:44] <burkmat> Shu: Excellent, and no problem. :) Welcome to Ubuntu btw.
[19:44] <iceroot> ryan8403_work: working fine here
[19:44] <Brazz> I just used sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and a screen came up with this description:
[19:44] <Brazz> Rather than communicating directly with the video hardware, the X server  │
[19:44] <Brazz>  │ may be configured to perform some operations, such as video mode          │
[19:44] <Brazz>  │ switching, via the kernel's framebuffer driver.                           │
[19:44] <Brazz>  │                                                                           │
[19:44] <Brazz>  │ In theory, either approach should work, but in practice, sometimes one    │
[19:44] <FloodBot1> Brazz: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:44] <l3dx> j484r: poweroff
[19:45] <lstarnes> j484r: or maybe shutdown -h now
[19:45] <StrangeCharm> if using two independent disks, and anticipating very memory-intensive operations, is it advisable to put a swap area on each?
[19:45] <Slart> j484r: shutdown -h/-r <time>
[19:45] <lstarnes> j484r: you might need to use it with sudo
[19:45] <nexsja> Can Ubuntu call me a taxi?
[19:45] <Keiffer> It think i should buy a 1mb video card. to be forced to use only the terminal
[19:45] <kamen> halitech: I cant enable visual effects, no acceleration, hell some of the screensavers are lagging on a quad core cpu O_O
[19:45] <marko-_-> what's the difference between packages kde and kubuntu-desktop
[19:45] <Halitech> amd64, depending on what version of Ubuntu you go with, it may have more updated packages then Debian Lenny
[19:45] <Slart> j484r: you have some specialized commands too.. halt, reboot and such
[19:45] <kronix> !ot | blognewb
[19:45] <kronix> Hmm.
[19:45] <l3dx> nexsja: as long as you can sudo, you can do whatever you want ;)
[19:45] <ryan8403_work> iceroot, thanks, seems there must be something weird where i'm at then
[19:45] <kronix> What's the syntax for calling the bot?
[19:45] <lstarnes> marko-_-: kde is just kde.  kubuntu-desktop includes all the applications included with ubuntu
[19:45] <burkmat> Guys, let's not forget telinit 0/6! the PRO way of shutting down ;)
[19:45] <stefg> Keiffer: sudo apt-get remove --purge xserver-xorg :-)
[19:45] <Slart> !bot
[19:45] <nexsja> l3dx, i can sudo. What's the package?
[19:46] <Rob235> hey
[19:46] <kronix> Thanks Slart.
[19:46] <iceroot> marko-_-: kubuntu-desktop is a metapackage with many applications, kde is the ide with the standard applications
[19:46] <Halitech> kamen, open source drivers don't always give 3d performance
[19:46] <nexsja> E: Couldn't find package taxi :<
[19:46] <amd64> halitech: my thoughts exactly. assuming I create a new server instance every 6 months, i'm guessing ubuntu packages are newer
[19:46] <Brazz> I just used sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and I need someone to discuss i if I should take the next step or not, since I'm following a guide
[19:46] <stefg> Keiffer: then you're forced to use the terminal :-)
[19:46] <mneptok> nexsja: i'm about to call you a taxi to #ubuntu-ops. please don't make me dial that phone.
[19:46] <Rob235> im dualbooting with ubuntu and win7, i need to reinstall the win7 boot manager but dont know how, it was so easy in xp
[19:46] <marko-_-> iceroot, lstarnes thanks
[19:46] <nexsja> mneptok, k :D
[19:46] <StrangeCharm> are multiple swap partitons on different disks helpful?
[19:46] <elitedevx> saprophyte: im sorry. im not familiar with the device. im researching an answer for you.
[19:47] <Keiffer> stefg, ouch....well, if you don't see me here asking for help is because i'm stuck with irssi
[19:47] <ryan8403_work> iceroot: kept erroring out that it couldn't download all the repo data from archives.us.ubuntu.org
[19:47] <Halitech> amd64, if you go with the newest version then yes but if its a production server are you going to want to update every 6 months or would you rather have stability and forget about that machine?
[19:47] <j484r> Thanks for the answers guys/gals
[19:47] <Slart> StrangeCharm: it could be.. but for a normal system I would say no
[19:47] <iceroot> ryan8403_work: sudo apt-get update
[19:47] <stefg> StrangeCharm: depends ... how much ram do you have, and what are you going to do?
[19:47] <kamen> what I dont get is, according to ATI my chipset doesnt exist. cant find any listing for it either for windows or linux
[19:47] <iceroot> ryan8403_work: gives you the error?
[19:47] <Brazz> ubottu: what is dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[19:47] <j484r> i better shot, and thankyou for your time in helping me...
[19:47] <lstarnes> Brazz: ubottu doesn't understand questions
[19:47] <Brazz> Ubottu: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[19:48] <saprophyte> elitedevx,  ok, thank you I will sit and be patient, I posted a new paste for you of lsusb output, has tomtom in it now.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/248172/   thanks
[19:48] <j484r> over and out
[19:48] <lstarnes> Brazz: that command reconfigures the package for the X server
[19:48] <Brazz> well seems like he understand questions better than users
[19:48] <asger> some of the icons on my desktop are now placed sort of outside of where i can see. It appened after i tryed to use my tv as an external screen. Anyone knows how i get the desktop back in order again?
[19:48] <StrangeCharm> slart - only 1Gb, and i'll be running a bunch of vms. i'm expecting to have to use a lot of viritual memory
[19:48] <QOOK> Help me! I was reinstall ubuntu. and... Don't exist Resolution for my monitor in Display setting. I all finished update.
[19:48] <Brazz> I have been following a guide to install my driver properly
[19:48] <Brazz> since I have been experiencing issues with all my other attempts
[19:48] <kamen> halitech: did you check the article I linked ya?
[19:49] <Brazz> now that I have used that command I want to know what i t will do exactly
[19:49] <Brazz> so I can proceed with the guild
[19:49] <Slart> StrangeCharm: ok, sounds like it might actually make a difference for you then.. let's just hope ubuntu can share the load between the swap spaces in some semi-smart manner
[19:49] <Brazz> otherwise I'll have to REINSTALL ubuntu again
[19:49] <Brazz> istarnes: can we discuss it through a PM?
[19:49] <lstarnes> Brazz: it will reconfigure the settings for the package
[19:49] <iceroot> Brazz: first understand what a command does, then use it. this is much better / safer
[19:50] <kamen> the driver it mentions, xf86-video-ati, I dont have that listed in synaptic
[19:50] <Brazz> istarnes: have you read this article? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[19:50] <Halitech> kamen, no and now I can't find the post with it
[19:50] <StrangeCharm> Slart, that's what i was wondering. it's al very well thinking 'aha, but now the hdd virtual memory will be less of a bottleneck, because there are two interfaces on two disks' but that requires someone to have built that functionality efficiently
[19:50] <stefg> StrangeCharm: swap lost a lot of imprtance in the age of dirt cheap ram...  swap is slow anyway. you could boost perfomance a bit by having two equally sized swap partitions right on the beginning of the disk and moutnt them with the same priority. The kernel will use them cleverly as a strped set (raid0). but rather spend 20 bucks on more ram
[19:50] <lstarnes> Brazz: no, but I will
[19:50] <kamen> halitech: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NzQyOQ
[19:50] <Brazz> iceroot: i try not to do things i dont udnerstand but honestly its one way to find out about things
[19:51] <Brazz> since not always people answer my stupid questions
[19:51] <iceroot> Brazz: yeah thats true
[19:51] <lstarnes> Brazz: where do you see 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' ?
[19:51] <Brazz> and I can understand they can be stupid sometimes but that's just how it is when you decide to start something
[19:51] <ryan8403_work> iceroot, right that it failed trying to get http://us.archive.ubuntu.com jaunty-security/(all sub repos) Translation-en_US
[19:51] <amd64> iceroot: my lenny has nginx 6.32 while the official stable is 7.61 - how safe would that be...
[19:52] <Slart> StrangeCharm: stefg has some valid points.. but you do what you want with your hardware.. I would give the multiple swap files/partitions thing a try
[19:52] <NameEarl> Hi everobody ive got some problem with mu ubuntu 9.04, idont have any sound:/
[19:52] <lstarnes> amd64: the version that is in the repositories will be patched to fix major security vulnerabilities and bugs
[19:52] <Brazz> istarnes: in one of his steps, just before the "configuring X.org", the one who created the guild does give a link to be checked out
[19:52] <iceroot> amd64: you have to understand the difference between security-update and major-release update
[19:52]  * kn100 is considering switching to kubuntu
[19:53] <ryan8403_work> iceroot, seems like its every couple of tries too, so maybe a problem with one of the sites
[19:53] <Brazz> istarnes: this link talks about removing all the last bits of the fglrx
[19:53] <StrangeCharm> Slart, stefg, it's all very well saying that ram is cheap, but my budget for implementation here is 'this room has a bunch of computers and computer pieces in it, i'm sure there's enough to make something work' any ram that i want at this stage, i'd have to pay for.
[19:53] <Brazz> istarnes: before you install the ati driver
[19:53] <dumont> which config file specifies which commands to run upon reboot\restart ?
[19:53] <NameEarl> Someone could help? i installed alsa 1.0.20 and thers no changes
[19:53] <lstarnes> Brazz: I think I see where it is
[19:53] <Brazz> instarnes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/FglrxInteferesWithRadeonDriver the link
[19:53] <amd64> lstarnes/iceroot: thanks. that cleared up something for me.
[19:53] <Halitech> kamen, ok, but seeing as how Ubuntu follows their own convention what might work on another distro may not work on Ubuntu, and vice versa
[19:53] <stefg> StrangeCharm: any other boxes to steal ram from ?
[19:54] <ryan8403_work> iceroot, correction, here is the full error http://pastebin.com/d63b13a83
[19:54] <Brazz> istarnes: then under the topic Problem:  "Need to fully remove -fglrx and reinstall -ati from scratch" there is a list of commands one is supposed to follow
[19:54] <lstarnes> Brazz: I see
[19:54] <kamen> right. fglrx = catalyst, right?
[19:54] <Brazz> and the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg is the last part
[19:54] <iceroot> amd64: if you are using debian, you are always behind new versions but debian software is more stable/tested then ubuntu-software
[19:54] <RadSurfer2> I am having difficulty installing 9.04, can someone please help
[19:55] <Brazz> istarnes: alright, so having a look at both links do you think that this dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg is a necessary part?
[19:55] <Halitech> kamen, you can probably follow the same instructions that Brazz pointed lstarnes to
[19:55] <lstarnes> Brazz: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg will likely open up a console dialog asking you for input for configuring xorg
[19:55] <lstarnes> Brazz: it likely may be
[19:55] <dumont> which config file specifies which commands to run upon reboot\restart ? I need the server to start vncserver automatically under a specified user
[19:55] <iceroot> amd64: so many people prefer debian stable for servers instead of ubuntu-server (which is based on debian unstable)
[19:55] <stefg> StrangeCharm: so what'S your plan? wnat a file server and a firewall? Got only 1G of Ram... fine! will run
[19:55] <lstarnes> dumont: it's several files
[19:55] <lstarnes> dumont: /etc/rc.local is one of them
[19:55] <RadSurfer2> my video goes all wacky for some reason... is there a setting to over-ride default video mode?
[19:55] <Brazz> istarnes: yes it did open a console, and atm I am wondering if I should accept it or not
[19:55] <iceroot> ryan8403_work: ah i see, canoncial is donw for me too
[19:55] <kamen> looking
[19:55] <StrangeCharm> stefg, the computers have cleverly been purchased so that each one is from a different ram era. there's a very low level of cross-compatibility. besides, there are some benefits to getting the other machines up independantly
[19:55] <Halitech> lstarnes, Brazz xorg does nada anymore when it comes to configuring X
[19:56] <RadSurfer2> And what do I do when I get to Ubuntu installer main menu?
[19:56] <Brazz> istarnes: you have been quite helpful, thank you very much!
[19:56] <iceroot> ryan8403_work: i cant update acroread at the moment from that repo
[19:56] <dumont> lstarnes I have vncserver, I'd like for it to start running upon restart, under a normal user, not under root
[19:56] <kpkeerthi> cpufrequency scaling is kind of weird for me. when i cold boot it sometimes doesn't work (cpu will stick at 800Mhz). if I reboot it starts to work. this is one last thing i need fixed. any help is much appreciated.
[19:56] <lstarnes> Brazz: you're welcome.  Also, that I is actually a lowercase L
[19:56] <kpkeerthi> i can;t be booting twice everytime for the cpu freq to work
[19:56] <StrangeCharm> stefg, virtual machines. they all want their own darn 'ram'
[19:56] <Brazz> lstarnes: o I see
[19:57] <Brazz> lstarnes: no wonder why I couldn't "tab" your name
[19:57] <Brazz> lstarnes: I appologize. now I'll run the command and follow the rest of the guide.
[19:57] <ryan8403_work> iceroot, okay, i just wanted to make sure that it "wasn't just me" i'll have to check back later
[19:57] <kamen> halitech: I did a fresh reinstall of ubuntu, have not enabled fglrx on this one. that link does not apply in my case
[19:57] <stefg> StrangeCharm: that's the point... but using the right virtualization solution they will only consume as much ram as they need. You only specify the MAX... if it needs less, it won't use it from the host
[19:58] <Brazz> lstarnes: before I reboot my computer again I'll come back here to tell you how it all went and after reboot (if I get through the loggin) I'll tell you the result
[19:58] <Halitech> kamen, ok, other then not being able to enable compiz, whats wrong with the way your system works?
[19:58] <kamen> halitech: I want acceleration for gaming. according to all I've seen the drivers should support this
[19:58] <zelrikriando> hello
[19:58] <tavi> Hey all--I'm trying to figure out how to create a link that redirects to another folder. So if I go to ~/blah, it'll take me to /a/b/c/blah -- not a symlink, but rather an actual redirect
[19:58] <stefg> StrangeCharm: stay away from vmware ... try kvm,
[19:59] <Halitech> kamen, what games?
[20:00] <StrangeCharm> stefg, i absolutely agree about that desired behaviour. nonetheless, i would to allow for the most flexibility possible, especially since hdd space is the least limited resource here (relatively speaking)
[20:00] <kamen> unknown yet. this is the first time I've had a machine this powerful, I'd like to be able to use it. but theres somn wrong when a screensaver lags
[20:00] <stefg> StrangeCharm: what are you going to run inside the vm's ?
[20:00] <Halitech> kamen, there's no mention of the 4200HD on the ati driver page
[20:00] <ltcabral> hm... considering my common-auth has this default structure: http://pastie.org/572939 where should i add a line that loads a module that uses login and password tokens (PAM_AUTHTOK)?
[20:00] <Brazz> lstarnes: are you still there?
[20:01] <kamen> I know. thats whats confusing me
[20:01] <kamen> well, one of the things
[20:01] <Halitech> kamen, http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx  chances are its not supported by their driver
[20:01] <lstarnes> Brazz: yes
[20:01] <Brazz> lstarnes: anyway I have gone throughout that process and now I am supposed to reboot
[20:01] <kamen> AMDs driver is fglrx. I'm using the open source one
[20:02] <gilberto_> hi all... I need some help with migration on KVM please... some one can help me????
[20:02] <Brazz> lstarnes: I'm quite excited about this now, so far its the only guide that made my computer work when attempting to install the driver
[20:02] <kamen> but I've seen a few places say catalyst and opensource both support it
[20:02] <StrangeCharm> stefg, i have a few items that are on the list for 'now' including a LAMP webserver, a fileserver, a mailserver and so on, but i want to be able to add new functionality as needed
[20:02] <Halitech> kamen, then again, there is no mention of the 4200 in any version of windows either
[20:02] <Brazz> lstarnes: if I dont come back then you know I'm reinstalling Ubuntu, Thank you anyway pal I really appreciate you being so helpful
[20:02] <kamen> exactly
[20:03] <DebiEA> Is there a log for events in APT? .. Like what I've removed/installed/updated etc. ?
[20:03] <kamen> hang a sec...
[20:03] <surgy> my login resolution is too high for my monitor which only supports up to 800x600, i just instaleld it and when i switch to a ttyl login and type sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf the file is empty. also when i try "sudo xrandr --output default --mode 800x600" it says "cant open display" any help would be greatly appreciated
[20:03] <zelrikriando> what are the packages for java
[20:03] <Halitech> kamen, where did you get that its a 4200?
[20:03] <zelrikriando> !java
[20:03] <lstarnes> DebiEA: check /var/log/dpkg.log and /var/log/apt/
[20:04] <lstarnes> DebiEA: there may be other logs in /var/log
[20:04] <DebiEA> lstarnes, thx
[20:04] <kamen> halitech: http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/motherboards/2009/08/04/gigabyte-ga-ma785gmt-ud2h-review/1   and the box it came in :)
[20:04] <scarra3> Well I just double check and I dont have the option in my bios
[20:04] <surgy> ?
[20:04] <QOOK> After I reinstall ubuntu, my Display is 'unknown'. I using Intel. Help me
[20:04] <YodaMaster> hello, i'm new on irc, how to invite on PM?
[20:04] <surgy> YodaMaster, click name
[20:05] <slayton> are there tutorials on how to package a single script into debian package
[20:05] <soreau> QOOK: What are you trying to do?
[20:05] <QOOK> I was reinstall ubuntu.
[20:05] <gilberto_> just some to point me any howto or docs... This is very important!!!
[20:05] <kamen> apparently this chipset is also known as the rs880
[20:05] <YodaMaster> I'm using ubuntu terminal so cannot click on name
[20:05] <stefg> StrangeCharm: don't try to run more than 3 VM ... fileserver=192 MB, LAMP Stack is ugly... 384 -512 (sql needs it). small mail server =128 MB ... that's it.
[20:06] <arnab_das> i need some help ppl. would really appreciate it.
[20:06] <burkmat> !help | arnab_das
[20:06] <surgy> arnab_das, maybe i can help? whats the prob?
[20:07] <arnab_das> i have set my power management setting so that my monitor turns off after 11 mins
[20:07] <QOOK> I was reinstall ubuntu. Well before the resolution was not optimal. Teoda the same computer.
[20:07] <arnab_das> but this isnt working at all.
[20:07] <scarra3> So what driver should I be slipstreaming into the xp installer?
[20:07] <QOOK> oh...
[20:07] <YodaMaster> so anybody help? lol
[20:07] <stefg> StrangeCharm: and have a look at JEOS
[20:07] <QOOK> Well before the resolution was not optimal. The same computer.... help me
[20:07] <surgy> YodaMaster, why do you need to pm someone?
[20:08] <arnab_das> the monitor isnt switching off even after half an hour.
[20:08] <StrangeCharm> stefg, JEOS? i'll see how it goes
[20:08] <Brazz> lstarnes: hehe surprise surprise, I'm online again
[20:08] <arnab_das> is the fault at my end?
[20:08] <Halitech> kamen, no idea but seems strange to me that ati doesn't even list it
[20:08] <YodaMaster> i just need the way to PM, in case of need. just to know
[20:09] <the_dark_warrio> Is it possible to list all connections made on a specific port?
[20:09] <Slart> YodaMaster: /msg someone whatever you want to say
[20:09] <lorenzofunk> Hey can someone answer my question
[20:09] <YodaMaster> Thank U Slart
[20:09] <surgy> my login resolution is too high for my monitor which only supports up to 800x600, i just instaleld it and when i switch to a ttyl login and type sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf the file is empty. also when i try "sudo xrandr --output default --mode 800x600" it says "cant open display" any help would be greatly appreciated
[20:09] <stefg> StrangeCharm: ubuntu server has a special installation mode for vm guests... no unneeded drivers, b/c hardware is predictable
[20:09] <kamen> ya, same here. I'm probably going to have to buy a new graphics card for this thing. got a pcie 16. any suggestions on something thats well supported?
[20:09] <burkmat> the_dark_warrio: You can check if something is connected through `netstat`, but unless you're logging activity, there's no history kept of who did what when.
[20:09] <YodaMaster> how do you color your nick?
[20:10] <lstarnes> YodaMaster: I don't think you can actually color it
[20:10] <StrangeCharm> stefg, yep, i'm using the server install with ssh and vm options
[20:10] <YodaMaster> -- more --
[20:10] <lorenzofunk> i have no idea why i cannot listen to music on myspace
[20:10] <geoaxis> hello people
[20:10] <stefg> StrangeCharm: afaik that will give you a kvm host
[20:10] <the_dark_warrio> burkmat: the connection is actually open. I will try netstat
[20:10] <ltcabral> hm... i added a try_first_pass to a pam.d/common-auth line and now i cant login, cant sudo or su and obviously, cant edit the file... what should i do?
[20:10] <mneptok> lorenzofunk: got the Flash plugin installed?
[20:10] <scarra3> is there a way to flash my bios in ubuntu?
[20:10] <geoaxis> i am unable to remove a package, it keeps giving me dpkg error in postinstall
[20:10] <bastid_razor> is there  a keyboard combo to enable disable use of the arrow keys in vmware? #vmware is dead
[20:10] <atomic007za> I am trying to install ununtu 8.04 on a GA-EX58-UD3R motherboard, and it needs drivers can anyone help
[20:11] <ohai> I just installed some update on ubuntu, now it says that the screen, graphics card, and input device settings can't be connected and it won't log me in...does anyone know how to fix this?
[20:11] <atomic007za> pls
[20:11] <stefg> StrangeCharm: and you should look at ebox, too. with 1G of ram i'd think twice f i really need a separate lamp and mail server
[20:11] <StrangeCharm> stefg, yep, that's what it looked like at startup... except that kvm startup failed :(
[20:11] <gvp> hi all. my wifi works flawlessly when i'm in gnome, but it ceases to function if i log in with a different session. could someone point me to someplace i can see what gnome's doing to make my wifi work?
[20:11] <Brazz> lstarnes: are you busy atm?
[20:11] <lorenzofunk> mneptok: Yes i ddi
[20:11] <mneptok> gvp: Network Manager
[20:11] <stefg> !ebox | StrangeCharm
[20:11] <th0r> gvp is network manager running in the other sessions?
[20:11] <buzal> hy
[20:11] <lstarnes> Brazz: not really
[20:11] <arianit> hi, need help with this problem. I have no resolution yet http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1184719
[20:12] <mneptok> lorenzofunk: quit Firefox. quit any ohter apps that use the sound subsystem (e.g. Rhythmbox) and then try again.
[20:12] <buzal> ubuntu.hu irc help
[20:12] <StrangeCharm> stefg, just looked at their website, will take that into account
[20:12] <buzal> open?
[20:12] <surgy> my login resolution is too high for my monitor which only supports up to 800x600, i just instaleld it and when i switch to a ttyl login and type sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf the file is empty. also when i try "sudo xrandr --output default --mode 800x600" it says "cant open display" any help would be greatly appreciated
[20:12] <mneptok> buzal: /join #ubuntu-hu
[20:12] <gvp> th0r: it's not set to; how would i go about making it?
[20:12] <Brazz> lstarnes:  I'm at "configuring x.org" atm now I use sudo nano /etc/x11/xorg.conf and some sort of editor have opened
[20:13] <Brazz> lstarnes: but it is blank...
[20:13] <lorenzofunk> mneptok: Can we talk private please about my problem
[20:13] <lstarnes> Brazz: it's case-sensitive
[20:13] <arnab_das> anyone?
[20:13] <lstarnes> Brazz: try sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[20:13] <atomic007za> I am trying to install ununtu 8.04 on a GA-EX58-UD3R motherboard, and it needs drivers can anyone help....point me in the write direction?
[20:13] <Brazz> lstarnes: i understand... thank you
[20:13] <burkmat> the_dark_warrio: `netstat -antu | grep :portnumbergoeshere` should do it. :)
[20:13] <mneptok> lorenzofunk: not ATM. quite busy.
[20:13] <Aepos> Hi guys!
[20:13] <bastid_razor> surgy, have you tried leaving the --output option off? it should see the output that is there if only 1
[20:14] <Aepos> I have a pretty important question.
[20:14] <the_dark_warrio> burkmat: yep, I've got it ;) Thanks!
[20:14] <stefg> StrangeCharm: and be aware that there is #ubuntu-server ... less crowded and noisy
[20:14] <burkmat> the_dark_warrio: np :)
[20:14] <arnab_das> my display isnt switching off after 11 mins even after i have changed the setting in the power management option
[20:14] <arnab_das> why is that?
[20:14] <lorenzofunk> mneptok: Okay well message me when you are not busy please because i really want to listen to my myspace playlist
[20:14] <ricrometv> Hello all - does anyone know what do i need to play a DVD on ubuntu? i've installed Mplayer movie player but it doesn't work yet... do i need any library? my pc is a dell inspiron 1545. your help would be very much appreciated. thanks
[20:14] <arnab_das> plz help
[20:14] <StrangeCharm> stefg, did not know that, will take a look
[20:14] <kamen> halitech: thanks for trying to help,  I do appreciate it
[20:15] <kamen> gonna go sleep on this
[20:15] <Aepos> Can you guys answer questions about Firefox plugins?
[20:15] <Aepos> No one in #firefox is alive.
[20:15] <Brazz> lstarnes: it says I'm supposed to edit it using the superuser commands... I understand that he means using the terminal to get to edit, but then again... what am I supposed to edit there? the guide doesn't say what to edit
[20:15] <arianit> Videocard resolution does not get saved on my 9.04 system when I restart. I go to NVIDIA X Server Settings and pick the resolution. I click Apply and everything works great until next restart when it resets to 800x600. If I click Save to X Configuration file, it says "Failed to parse existing X config file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'!"
[20:15] <surgy> bastid_razor, nope nothing
[20:15] <lstarnes> Brazz: I'm not sure exactly
[20:16] <Aepos> Well, here it goes. I'll ask anyways.
[20:16] <Aepos> My browser prompted me to install missing Flash plugins, so I chose to install Shockwave Flash 9.0 r999 (libswfdecmozilla.so), and it works, but every time it loads a Flash applet, it prompts you to press a "play" button before it can be used. It's also dysfunctional. Like, when I try to use the Google audio player, the slider doesn't move. When I play Youtube videos, there's absolutely no...
[20:16] <Aepos> ...animation.
[20:16] <Brazz> lstarnes: Would you mind taking a look at the steps just before I got there? if its not to be bothering you a lot, because I know its not your problem, but its unfortunate that not so many people are willing to be so helpful as you have been to me.
[20:17] <QOOK> I was reinstall Ubuntu in the same computer. And then, my display is went to 'unknown' state. help me.
[20:17] <YodaMaster> sorry i was disconnected
[20:17] <Brazz> lstarnes: feel free to say no if you wanna do something else
[20:17] <lstarnes> Brazz: which steps?
[20:17] <Brazz> lstarnes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[20:17] <Aepos> Wow, I feel invisible.
[20:17] <YodaMaster> how to put color on nick
[20:17] <bastid_razor> surgy, type xrandr ..this should give you which screen it is using then you can use the --screen  option
[20:17] <lstarnes> YodaMaster: you don't
[20:17] <Brazz> Configuring x.org
[20:17] <NoGe> anyone can tell me tutorial how to install shoutcast on ubuntu?
[20:17] <lstarnes> YodaMaster: if this message shows in a different color, it is because your nick is in it
[20:17] <Brazz> lstarnes: configuring x.org
[20:18] <YodaMaster> ah ok thyanks
[20:18] <lstarnes> YodaMaster: it does that so that it gets your attention
[20:18] <lstarnes> YodaMaster: it's called highlighting
[20:18] <Zajjko1> Could I ask a xubuntu-related question in here?
[20:18] <YodaMaster> many thanks lstarnes
[20:18] <lstarnes> Brazz: look in the "device" section, if there is one
[20:19] <NoGe> is anyone can tell me tutorial how to install shoutcast on ubuntu?
[20:19] <YodaMaster> and in case of I see -- more -- how to reach the bottom of the channel?
[20:19] <Brazz> lstarnes: Section "Device"
[20:19] <Brazz>         Identifier      "Configured Video Device"
[20:19] <Brazz>         Option          "UseFBDev"              "true"
[20:19] <lstarnes> YodaMaster: scroll down
[20:19] <Zajjko1> When connecting an external video-output (projector), upon playing video (avi, xvid) in VLC - I only get a blank screen on the external-output but video as normal on the laptop-monitor
[20:19] <donnybrasco> help ... I'm trying to create a file using "vi /home/xxx/.asoundrc", but I can't enter or paste any txt because I get the following error: "E353: Nothing in register ""
[20:19] <YodaMaster> i use ubuntu terminal
[20:19] <lstarnes> Brazz: it should look something like what is in the guide
[20:19] <lstarnes> YodaMaster: do you have a page down button?
[20:19] <ocrob> donnybrasco: try 'touch /home/xxx/.asoundrc' then edit it with vi
[20:19] <YodaMaster> scrolling seems not to work
[20:20] <lstarnes> donnybrasco: use vim, not vi
[20:20] <Brazz> lstarnes: I can't believe it... I think I'm taking you for granted and not reading the guide properly
[20:20] <Brazz> lstarnes: sorry to have wasted your time mate
[20:20] <NoGe> is anyone can tell me tutorial how to install shoutcast on ubuntu?
[20:20] <LogicalDash> I am upgrading my Firefox, do I want version 3.5 or 3.6?
[20:20] <stefg> donnybrasco: http://www.bash.org/?795779
[20:20] <rski> LogicalDash: 3.5
[20:20] <arnab_das> is there any youtube customizable player for ubuntu?
[20:20] <Brazz> lstarnes: I'll only call you in case I dont really get what they're talking about now. Thank you so much for everything
[20:20] <lstarnes> Brazz: you might need to change the BusID
[20:20] <YodaMaster> Yes i got it thanks Lstarnes
[20:21] <Halitech> NoGe, http://www.shoutcast.com/download#14
[20:21]  * svartr needs help - who's up for it?
[20:21] <Halitech> !help | svartr
[20:21] <Slart> svartr: just ask your question
[20:22] <arnab_das> youtube player for ubuntu?
[20:22] <Gnea> arnab_das: firefox.
[20:22] <svartr> My husband's system is coming up with this error - fsck died with exit status 4
[20:22] <stefg> donnybrasco: http://xkcd.com/378/
[20:22] <Slart> arnab_das: adobes flash player is probably the best out there.. but it's not what I would call good.. full screen playback and such is so so
[20:22] <YodaMaster> i'm about to go. see ya later and THANT U
[20:22] <YodaMaster> THANK u
[20:23] <Gnea> Slart: it's fine here. depends on how fast the system is.
[20:23] <NoGe> Halitech, i'll try to config it
[20:23] <Aepos> The #firefox channel is dead, so... My browser prompted me to install missing Flash plugins, so I chose to install Shockwave Flash 9.0 r999 (libswfdecmozilla.so), and it works, but every time it loads a Flash applet, it prompts you to press a "play" button before it can be used. It's also dysfunctional. Like, when I try to use the Google audio player, the slider doesn't move. When I play...
[20:23] <Aepos> ...Youtube videos, there's absolutely no animation.
[20:23] <Mrokii> hello all. I would like to know how I can start gdm a second time on another screen session. If that is possible
[20:23] <deany> arnab_das, vlc also plays them,  I use it when I wanna go fullscreen.
[20:23] <Gnea> !flash | Aepos
[20:23] <arnab_das> vlc?
[20:23] <Halitech> NoGe, if not, there is a native app called darkice I think, does the same thing
[20:23] <arnab_das> how?
[20:23] <Slart> Gnea: oh.. I have to give it a go again then..
[20:23] <Slart> Aepos: you can always use vlc.. that works nicely here
[20:24] <Aepos> Yeah, but how?
[20:24] <arnab_das> is there any option in vlc to play youtube vis?
[20:24] <deany> arnab_das, copy link to clipboard,   open from clipboard in vlc
[20:24] <Aepos> How do I uninstall the flash player plugin I just installed?
[20:24] <arnab_das> oh
[20:24] <deany> arnab_das, I WISH.
[20:24] <arnab_das> thank u
[20:24] <Slart> Mrokii: isn't there a switch or something you can use? I think I saw a howto on that somewhere.. running two X servers on different displays
[20:24] <Gnea> Aepos: by running its uninstall routine
[20:24] <bkarns> anyone have any luck getting the VGA port to work on a dell mini 12
[20:25] <Aepos> Where? That's where I'm stuck.
[20:25] <NoGe> Halitech, thank you brotha.. i've got it http://code.google.com/p/darkice/downloads/list
[20:25] <svartr> system is suggesting to run fsck manually, how would we do that?
[20:25] <Gnea> Aepos: did you download some sort of script or program to install it with?
[20:25] <Aepos> Gnea: sorry to bother, but could you gimme a quick run-through on how to do that?
[20:25] <Mrokii> Slart, I don't know, I only googled for it, but couldn't find a solution
[20:25] <Slart> svartr: boot from a live cd.. run fsck from there
[20:25] <Halitech> NoGe, np, glad to help
[20:25] <Aepos> Gnea: no, it's just the standard Firefox plugin installer.
[20:25] <hackel> How can I display the uncompressed size of a bzip2 file without decompressing it?
[20:25] <Brazz> lstarnes: may I send you a pm just so you wash out a question I have?
[20:25] <Gnea> Aepos: okay, that doesn't tell me anything - did it redirect you to an adobe.com site to download it?
[20:26] <bkarns> anyone have any luck getting the VGA port to work on a dell mini 12
[20:26] <atomic007za> I am trying to install ununtu 8.04 on a GA-EX58-UD3R motherboard, and it needs drivers can anyone help....point me in the write direction?
[20:26] <Aepos> Gnea: no.
[20:26] <lstarnes> Brazz: go ahead
[20:26] <donnybrasco> ocrob: "touch: cannot touch `/home/xxx/.asoundrc': No such file or directory"
[20:26] <svartr> Slart: will try that, thanks - will update on progress
[20:26] <Gnea> Aepos: so it brought up a separate window and gave you a selection to choose from?
[20:26] <joeyeye> Mrokii: I think you can only run one gdm so run a 2nd window manager instead
[20:26] <donnybrasco> lstarnes: I get the same issue with vim
[20:26] <QOOK> help me.. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7739027
[20:26] <arnab_das> youtube vids working fine on youtube
[20:26] <lstarnes> donnybrasco: try :set nocp
[20:26] <Aepos> Gnea: it gave me the option to install GNASH, Adobe Flash 10 (from website), or the other one. I forget what it called it, but I installed it.
[20:26] <arnab_das> i mean on vlc
[20:26] <arnab_das> :)
[20:26] <arnab_das> thank u loads
[20:27] <Gnea> Aepos: the one that you installed... did it have an ubuntu symbol next to it?
[20:27] <stefg> !fixres | QOOK
[20:27] <Aepos> Gnea: I believe so, yes.
[20:27] <donnybrasco> lstarnes: nope
[20:28] <Aepos> Gnea: it was the standard "You are missing plugins..." bar.
[20:28] <Gnea> Aepos: okay, open a terminal and type this please:  dpkg -l | grep ^ii | grep flash    and pastebin the output
[20:28] <ltcabral> where in the /etc/pam.d/common-auth file should i add the line "auth    optional        pam_krb5_migrate.so" for it to use login credentials from the login? this is my common-auth: http://pastie.org/572939
[20:28] <Gnea> !pastebin
[20:28] <Aepos> Gnea: pastebin?
[20:28] <jacquesdupontd> hey hoy yo
[20:28] <Gnea> !pastebin | Aepos
[20:29] <Aepos> Okay.
[20:29] <donnybrasco> isn't there some way to use gedit to create this file - as is, it keeps saying that I don't have permission (even when I try sudo gedit...)
[20:29] <Mrokii> joeyeye, I am an Ubuntu-newbie and so don't know how to do that. What I am trying to do is to run a game in fullscreen on one screen while having my usual desktop open on another screen, so I can switch back and forth between botht
[20:29] <smxy> When I run 'apt-get upgrade' it hods back several kernel-related packages and I'll be darned if I can figure out how to tell it to update them. How do I do that?
[20:30] <jc_> hi
[20:30] <smxy> holds*
[20:30] <jacquesdupontd> donnybrasco, hm sudo is superuser i dont think so
[20:30] <Pici> smxy: apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:30] <jacquesdupontd> donnybrasco, lemme check permissions possible
[20:30] <Aepos> Gnea: http://paste.ubuntu.com/248197/
[20:30] <smxy> Pici: ok. What's the difference?
[20:30] <donnybrasco> thanks, I'm really starting to pull my hair out on this one - how can it be so hard to create a file?? :)
[20:31] <Halitech> donnybrasco, you should use gksudo when using graphical apps
[20:31] <bucky> donnybrasco: create any file?
[20:31] <Pici> smxy: dist-upgrade pulls in packages that have new dependencies, such as the linux-image-generic package now depending on linux-image-genereic-$newversionnumber
[20:31] <joeyeye> Mrokii: is you display adapter dual display capable, or are you using a laptop and external screen ?
[20:31] <MidsummerDawn> I need the plugins to play a movie on my Ubuntu system through my optical drive. Where do I get those?
[20:31] <smxy> ah, tyvm
[20:31] <jacquesdupontd> Halitech, but it wouldn't resolve is problem, he wants that root user can't open it
[20:31] <elraptor> ¿¿alguien habla español?? xd
[20:31] <Pici> !es | elraptor
[20:31] <Halitech> !multimedia | MidsummerDawn
[20:31] <donnybrasco> halitech: I'll try that, thanks
[20:32] <mw-home> I don't know why, but lately firefox is crazy slow.  Nearly every page sends my CPU to 100%.  I'm using flashblock.  It happens on lots of pages that have any JS code.
[20:32] <jacquesdupontd> Halitech, he still will be root and root is the biggest permission isn't it ?
[20:32] <Halitech> jacquesdupontd, didn't say it would, just pointing out that graphical apps should use gksudo instead of sudo
[20:32] <donnybrasco> bucky: haha, hey again - I'm trying to create /home/xxx/.asoundrc with no success
[20:32] <jacquesdupontd> Halitech, i do agree
[20:32] <Aepos> Gnea: doesn't seem unusual, does it?
[20:32] <Halitech> donnybrasco, are you changing xx to a valid username?
[20:32] <Mrokii> joeyeye, I am only using a tower with a motherboard with an nvidia-chipset (geForce 8300).
[20:32] <bucky> donnybrasco: .asoundrc is a directory and you can't name a file the same name as an existing directory
[20:33] <jacquesdupontd> haha
[20:33] <Mrokii> joeyeye, no second display connected, if that was part of your question
[20:33] <donnybrasco> halitech: no, am I supposed to? haha
[20:33] <jacquesdupontd> hahaha
[20:33] <jacquesdupontd> :)
[20:33] <Halitech> donnybrasco, ummmm yeah
[20:33] <bucky> Halitech donnybrasco: .asoundrc is a directory and you can't name a file the same name as an existing directory
[20:33] <Dark_Wolf> Anyone know of any open-source software that can show graphics on a live camera feed? Like... news graphics
[20:33] <donnybrasco> bucky: I'm trying to do this http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Asoundrc
[20:34] <jacquesdupontd> donnybrasco, you should replace it by "mkdir ~/.asoundrc
[20:34] <Halitech> bucky, I don't have that folder on my system so wasn't aware it was a folder
[20:34] <bkarns> anyone have any luck getting th VGA port to work on a dell mini 12
[20:34] <ltcabral> can anyone paste for me the default /etc/pam.d/common-auth for jaunty?
[20:34] <jacquesdupontd> this exact command "mkdir ~/.asoundrc"
[20:35] <th0r> jacquesdupontd: why are you making a dir? that file is a  simple text file
[20:35] <jacquesdupontd> oh true
[20:35] <jacquesdupontd> long time i didn't had to mangage my sound as its working perfectly
[20:35] <bucky> donnybrasco: ls -ld .asoundrc
[20:36] <jacquesdupontd> donnybrasco, you surely have this folder /home/yourusername(donnybrascomaybe)/
[20:36] <bucky> donnybrasco: pwd  which directory are you in?
[20:36] <RadSurfer2> CAN anyone help with 9.04 installation! HELP!
[20:36] <joeyeye> Mrokii: I thought you said a game on 1 screen and regular desktop on another ... is that not 2 screens ?
[20:36] <donnybrasco> bucky: "ls: cannot access .asoundrc: No such file or directory"
[20:36] <bucky> good
[20:36] <RadSurfer2> It really does not like my video card apparently, can not get graphic install, and X fails
[20:36] <Mrokii> joeyeye, I meant "two virtual screens"
[20:36] <th0r> donnybrasco: it might not exist yet
[20:36] <bucky> donnybrasco: pwd
[20:37] <jerkman> hey all, just compiled a kernel for the first time, and upon sorting a couple of errors it is done and packaged! However... the package wont install
[20:37] <Halitech> RadSurfer2, what video card?
[20:37] <donnybrasco> jacquesdupontd: yes I do
[20:37] <jacquesdupontd> th0r : btw what is the command to create a simple text file ?
[20:37] <joeyeye> Mrokii: ahh ... so more than 1 desktop
[20:37] <RadSurfer2> nvidia 96xx series
[20:37] <Mrokii> joeyeye, between which I can switch back and forth with ctrl+alt+fn
[20:37] <donnybrasco> bucky: pwd?
[20:37] <Mrokii> joeyeye, well, yes
[20:37] <RadSurfer2> ONLY ubuntu seems to HATE t his card!
[20:37] <Halitech> jacquesdupontd, touch /name/of/file
[20:37] <th0r> jacquesdupontd: if you want an empty file just 'touch <filename>'
[20:37] <bucky> donnybrasco: type it in a term
[20:37] <Aepos> Gnea: Take a look. http://imagebin.org/58468
[20:37] <jacquesdupontd> oh "gedit ~/home/userdir/.asoundrc" should work and then you save it ?
[20:37] <donnybrasco> bucky: /home/donald
[20:37] <th0r> jacquesdupontd: I am looking at the contents of that file in my ~
[20:38] <jerkman> http://pastebin.com/m561ac074 is the dpkg install stage
[20:38] <MidsummerDawn> Where would I download libdvdnav4, libdvdread4, gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad and gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly packages.
[20:38] <jacquesdupontd> th0r, no in fact it will say no such file or directory found
[20:38] <MidsummerDawn> ?*
[20:38] <th0r> jacquesdupontd: not quite....gedit ~/.asoundrc
[20:38] <RadSurfer2> Can someone /msg and help me resolve video please?
[20:38] <bucky> donnybrasco: you can't gedit .asoundrc ?
[20:38] <burkmat> MidsummerDawn: Checked the repos?
[20:38] <Mrokii> joeyeye, yes, what I need (probably) are two desktops at the same time.
[20:38] <Halitech> MidsummerDawn, you probably need either the multimedia repo or medibuntu repo enabled
[20:38] <bucky> donnybrasco: type that
[20:38] <ali1234> hi. i am trying to use distcc to cross compile linux kernel. i have configured distcc such that gcc works, installed cross compiler on all machines, added the location of the cc to PATH of distccd, but when i try to run it says "distcc[5215] (dcc_execvp) ERROR: failed to exec arm-none-linux-gnueabi-gcc: No such file or directory"
[20:38] <MidsummerDawn> What?
[20:38] <jerkman> MidsummerDawn: apt-get?
[20:38] <Gnea> Aepos: sorry, just saw that - got distracted by phone
[20:38] <donnybrasco> bucky: I can, but it won't let me save anything
[20:38] <ali1234> i have checked the PATH variable of distccd using proc and it is correct
[20:38] <jacquesdupontd> th0r, it's a file to make priorities between different sound server as i remember or different devices
[20:38] <Aepos> Ah.
[20:39] <joeyeye> Mrokii: will they be the same or different resolution ?
[20:39] <MidsummerDawn> In the terminal right?
[20:39] <th0r> jacquesdupontd: that is because you are including the home directory twice (~ = /home/username)
[20:39] <Gnea> Aepos: okay, there's something you can do.
[20:39] <Mrokii> joeyeye, They can be the same, no problem with that
[20:39] <jacquesdupontd> th0r,  that's what i meant look what i've said before i told him about the ~/ trick
[20:39] <donnybrasco> bucky: now it's working :)
[20:39] <jerkman> MidsummerDawn: what Halitech said, http://www.medibuntu.org/
[20:39] <th0r> jacquesdupontd: this is wrong!    "gedit ~/home/userdir/.asoundrc"
[20:40] <joeyeye> Mrokii: so just use gnome virtual desktops
[20:40] <jerkman> anyone able to help?
[20:40] <Gnea> Aepos: a) quit firefox, b) remove your plugin, like so:  sudo apt-get remove adobe-flashplugin c) install the nonfree plugin, like so:  sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree d) launch firefox
[20:40] <jacquesdupontd> th0r, i putted that ? mistake attentioned
[20:40] <janisozaur> i'm running ubuntu 9.04 and i'm having some problems with google-chrome. i've tried purging and reinstalling it again, but it didn't help. output from "google-chrome" and some useful info here: http://codepad.org/kc5YJWMK could anyone help me get it working?
[20:40] <jacquesdupontd> attentioned mistake
[20:40] <deany> Gnea, arent they the same version?
[20:40] <jacquesdupontd> th0r, btw a mistake that can be boring :)
[20:40] <Mrokii> joeyeye, I will google for that, thank you
[20:41] <joeyeye> Mrokii: do you have the workspace switcher icon on a panel anywhere ?
[20:41] <jerkman> hey all, just compiled a kernel for the first time, and upon sorting a couple of errors it is done and packaged! However... the package wont install please help!
[20:41] <jacquesdupontd> th0r, to have a double user dir, and even more for a newbie
[20:41] <jerkman> http://pastebin.com/m561ac074 is the dpkg install stage
[20:41] <Gnea> deany: one works, the other has some restriction to it
[20:41] <joeyeye> Mrokii: if not, right click on a panel and select "add to panel" and choose "workspace switcher"
[20:41] <jacquesdupontd> th0r, so "touch" is making a file ?
[20:41] <jeremy2> anyone using 9.10 yet?
[20:41] <Mrokii> joeyeye, yep, it is in the lower right corner
[20:42] <janisozaur> !karmic | jeremy2
[20:42] <th0r> jacquesdupontd: yes, touch <filename> will create an empty file
[20:42] <Gnea> deany, Aepos: I know that the nonfree will work because jailbreak2 is coming up and working on my system
[20:42] <deany> Gnea, I see the ubuntu one is newer as well.
[20:42] <jacquesdupontd> th0r, anyway i checked my solution works "gedit ~/.asoundrc" and then save the file
[20:42] <joeyeye> Mrokii: ok, so there's probably 4 virtual desktops ... click on one of them and launch the game...
[20:42] <deany> Gnea, never knew there was a difference
[20:42] <th0r> jacquesdupontd: yes, that should work
[20:42] <ricrometv> hello again - i'm trying to play DVDs and i've downloaded VLC and the vlc-plugin-esd and mozilla-plugin-vlc...
[20:42] <ricrometv> still, i got this msg from VLC when i tried to run the DVD: Your input can't be opened: VLC is unable to open the MRL 'dvd:///dev/sr0'. Check the log for details.
[20:42] <ricrometv> ... anyone knows what the issue is?
[20:42] <FloodBot1> ricrometv: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:43] <stefg> jerkman: you need nvidia-source and (possibly) module-assistant
[20:43] <jacquesdupontd> th0r, it does but thx for this new command i didn't knew about
[20:43] <ricrometv> apologies!
[20:43] <th0r> jacquesdupontd: the file is nothing special, a simple text file
[20:43] <Gnea> deany: learn something new everyday :)
[20:43] <Halitech> !multimedia | ricrometv,
[20:43] <jacquesdupontd> th0r, that's it that's what it's working he could even do it simply in the window manager
[20:43] <Halitech> !dvd
[20:43] <Mrokii> joeyeye, thanks, I will try that
[20:43] <deany> Gnea, wish they`d state so in the description
[20:43] <deany> Gnea, know whats different exactly?
[20:43] <jerkman> stefg: do i have to recompile? with those sources
[20:43] <Gnea> deany: nope
[20:44] <jerkman> and where do i put them?>
[20:44] <jacquesdupontd> th0r, create -> new document
[20:44] <th0r> jacquesdupontd: yes, that would work too if you are using gnome
[20:44] <bucky> jacquesdupontd: to to community college and take DOS 101 to familiarize youself with the concept of working directory
[20:44] <jacquesdupontd> th0r, that's what he use from what i understood
[20:44] <jacquesdupontd> uses
[20:45] <Aepos> Gnea: Okay.
[20:45] <stefg> jerkman: i think so... the problem is the nvidia-driver. the kernel expects it, but it's not guaranteed that it will build against 2.6.30....
[20:45] <jacquesdupontd> bucky, i've learnt all step by step as i was needing it time after time but it can be useful thx for the advice, anyway i always found a solution even if i don't go the faster way
[20:46] <bucky> jacquesdupontd: this is NOT your home directory "~/home/jacques"
[20:46] <jacquesdupontd> bucky, for sure i know
[20:46] <jerkman> stefg: ah, ok, but where do i get those sources from?
[20:46] <jacquesdupontd> bucky, read me i made a mistake on 1 sentence just because of attention
[20:46] <jacquesdupontd> bucky, i use linux since 5 years
[20:46] <Aepos> Gnea: what were those commands again?
[20:46] <Aepos> Gnea: Sorry.
[20:47] <stefg> jerkman: nvidia-driver == closed source ... only the 'adapter' is build from source
[20:47] <jacquesdupontd> bucky, i know its either /home/jacquesdupontd/ or ~/ i learnt him about the ~/ just upper in the discussino
[20:47] <Aepos> "sudo apt-get remove adobe-flashplugin" then what?
[20:47] <jerkman> stefg: yes, unless i choose open source driver :(. where do i get the 'adaptor' from?
[20:47] <stefg> jerkman: i have not fully investigated the problem, but your kernel build was succesful in general, you only have to deal with the nvidia specialities
[20:48] <Aepos> Gnea: What were the commands to run?
[20:48] <Zobin> Hey people. I'm trying to set up the dual display for my ATI Radeon X850 XT. Using Ubuntu 9.04
[20:49] <jacquesdupontd> bucky, btw i've seen something im not sure about, before on other version of ubuntu in the terminal when i was typing ~/ + tab then it was putting me the user directory but now you have to directly put the next directory you want to go to, it's pretty much the same but i don't know the explanation of this change
[20:49] <DrRighteous> Can someeone tell me what the default root pass or how to set the root pass for vmbuilder creating a new VM?
[20:49] <jerkman> stefg: so where do i get it from...
[20:49] <stefg> jerkman: the 'adapter' is the nvidia.ko which adapts the nvidia driver blob (binary large object) to the kernel. When you build the 'driver' you actually only build the adapter
[20:49] <Slart> DrRighteous: for an ubuntu guest?
[20:49] <DrRighteous> Slart: yes
[20:50] <huffman> How late do the developers add new versions to ubuntu before a release?
[20:50] <Slart> DrRighteous: ubuntu doesn't use a root password.. sudo is the recommended way to go
[20:50] <Gnea> Aepos: a) quit firefox, b) remove your plugin, like so:  sudo apt-get remove adobe-flashplugin c) install the nonfree plugin, like so:  sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree d) launch firefox
[20:50] <Halitech> Zobin, support for that card has been dropped, 9.3 is the last catalyst driver ati has released and I don't think it works in 9.04
[20:50] <iceroot> huffman: until freeze
[20:50] <Zobin> Halitech: Ok, so is there any way to fix it?
[20:50] <iceroot> !freeze
[20:50] <Zobin> I don't need the catalyst driver. Just anything that works with this
[20:50] <Halitech> Zobin, revert back to 8.10 or buy a new card
[20:50] <Pici> huffman: The schedule for the next release can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KarmicReleaseSchedule
[20:51] <jerkman> stefg: ok, thanks - but please tell me HOW to get the source.
[20:51] <bucky> jacquesdupontd: cd ../  pwd   cd ~/  pwd
[20:51] <Zobin> Halitech: So it works in 8.10?
[20:51] <stefg> jerkman: package  nvidia-source
[20:51] <iceroot> huffman: sorry cant find a specific timeline
[20:51] <JuzFX> Hello
[20:51] <huffman> Thanks
[20:51] <Slart> DrRighteous: you can type !root, !sudo or !supportroot  for additional info on the "root password" issue
[20:51] <Halitech> Zobin, it should ... not sure of any way of doing dual display without the ati catalyst
[20:51] <Mrokii> joeyeye, sorry, but your solution doesn't work. If I run the game in fullscreen I can't switch between the workspaces. I guess I really need two virtual screens
[20:51] <stefg> !info nvidia-source
[20:52] <Zobin> Halitech: Ok, so if I install 8.10 I should download ATI 9.3 ?
[20:52] <Slart> !find nvidia
[20:52] <stefg> !info nvidia-180-kernel-source | jerkman
[20:52] <Halitech> Zobin, yes http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Legacy/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.16&lang=English
[20:53] <Halitech> Zobin, but I would probably go 8.04 just due to its longer support time
[20:53] <jerkman> stefg: so where do i get it from...
[20:53] <JuzFX> Does anyone know if you can use bootcamp on mac to install ubuntu instead of win?
[20:53] <stefg> jerkman: apt-get
[20:53] <jerkman> yes, done it thanks
[20:54] <Slart> JuzFX: I can't say for sure.. but windows is much more of a diva compared to linux..so if windows works I would suspect linux to work too
[20:54] <jacquesdupontd> bucky, i expressed myself wrongly but that doesn't matter anyway
[20:54] <jrib> JuzFX: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages
[20:55] <JuzFX> When you bring up bootcamp it only gives you the option to format the drive for win
[20:55] <jrib> JuzFX: that page has complete installation instructions
[20:55] <ohai> what is xserver and how do I fix it...
[20:55] <JuzFX> jrib thanx
[20:55] <Aepos> Gnea: During installation: "Connecting to archive.canonical.com|91.189.90.142|:80... failed: Connection timed out."
[20:56] <deany> Aepos, Ive had that all day
[20:56] <Slart> Aepos: http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/archive.canonical.com
[20:56] <deany> Aepos, just keep tryin it works eventually
[20:56] <Aepos> Just let it keep trying?
[20:56] <deany> Aepos, it`ll give up in the end, just run update again
[20:56] <JuzFX> How does application like dropbox work as a folder, i mean how come it does not take time to upload or download file when it located on the web not your machine?
[20:57] <deany> Aepos, it`ll work eventually, takes me 2-3 goes usualy
[20:57] <Aepos> Aww.
[20:58] <deany> JuzFX, it does take time, as much time as your connection needs, unless its a modified file which then uses delta info to only upload the changes.
[20:58] <deany> or sum`n like dat
[20:58] <Halitech> JuzFX, it probably just does things in the background, leaving you free to do other things
[20:58] <Guiri> ANy way to uninstall gnome after I install xubuntu-desktop?
[20:58] <Aepos> deany: You were right.
[20:58] <JuzFX> oh cuz im using a program called sugar sync it works like dropbox but takes forever
[20:58] <Aepos> Third time's the charm.
[20:59] <thebishop> some recent software update (dunno if kernel or X or what) broke my VIA Unichrome videocard support.  It seems like "via" may have been removed as a kernel module
[20:59] <deany> Aepos, yeah, every other repo in the list is fine, just that one
[20:59] <Aepos> deany: Lawls.
[20:59] <boohaha> where is the downloaded package kept when i install from add/remove ?
[21:00] <Aepos> boohaha: What directory?
[21:00] <JuzFX> Do most of the same linux commands work in mac since there both based of unix?
[21:00] <Halitech> Guiri, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce
[21:00] <boohaha> 9.04 gnome
[21:00] <Aepos> boohaha: Are you asking in which directory?
[21:00] <JuzFX> i mean i know you cant do sudo apt-get file or anything
[21:00] <boohaha> yes
[21:01] <Guiri> Thanks Halitech
[21:01] <Halitech> JuzFX, not all and Mac is actually based on a BSD fork, not linux
[21:01] <Aepos> Umm, it should be usr/bin, right? I may be wrong.
[21:01] <stefg> JuzFX: POSIX makes you smile :-)
[21:02] <Aepos> deany: Wow. About 8 kbps DL rate.
[21:02] <JuzFX> I just thought since bsd linux mac all came from unix somewhere down the road some of the commands would be alike
[21:02] <stefg> JuzFX: if you use bash as a shell... most commands will work. but of course the file layout is different so your average ubuntu trick on a mac terminal will fail
[21:03] <aboSamoor> Hi, I installed kde 4.3 over ubuntu and now all the notification is messed up, can you help me ?
[21:03] <bucky> jacquesdupontd: ls ~/  <TAB>    Display all 197 possibilities? (y or n)
[21:03] <boohaha> anyone knows where the .deb packages from add/remove are kept?
[21:03] <Halitech> JuzFX, some will but Mac has made enough changes to the system that its debatable if it will work or not
[21:03] <JuzFX> what does bash mean?
[21:03] <vonkleist> Bourne Again SHell
[21:03] <stefg> !bash | JuzFX
[21:03] <dr3mro> ubuntu is soo simple that i find windows now so difficult to use
[21:04] <Slart> vonkleist: who is bourne.. and what did he do to deserve being reborn as a shell? =)
[21:04] <Gnea> JuzFX: most shell commands are pretty much the same. there's a certain 'core' set that remains. the trick is differentiating which ones are and aren't.
[21:04] <vonkleist> Slart, r u kidding?
[21:04] <JuzFX> So linux calls there bash Terminal and mac Command Line?
[21:04] <Slart> vonkleist: yes.. nevermind me
[21:05] <jacquesdupontd> bucky, im saying before, you were typing "cd ~/ + tab" and it was becoming "cd /home/userdir/" i know all this command to list folders
[21:05] <Aepos> JuzFX: That's not universal. KDE calls it Konsole.
[21:05] <vonkleist> linux doesn't call bash in anyway
[21:05] <Gnea> stefg: and, actually, it doesn't matter what shell you use, the same commands will be available, unless you set your environment path differently
[21:05] <stefg> JuzFX: no... both call the command line interpreter bash
[21:05] <Aepos> Some people call it terminal, console, konsole, cli.
[21:05] <Gnea> JuzFX: a commandline is usually part of a terminal
[21:05] <bucky> Boohbah: /var/cache/apt/archives/
[21:05] <huffman> JuzFX: That's the terminal emulator.  Bash is the command line interpreter, of which there are many (bash, zsh, csh, etc.)
[21:06] <Gnea> Aepos: btw, did that work?
[21:06] <erisco> why do I get different performance with flash and java between firefox and opera?
[21:06] <bucky> Slart: Matt Daemon is Bourne
[21:06] <dumont> question: if I have wine istalled, where in Konqueror is the C:/ directory, the C drive created by wine ?
[21:06] <Slart> bucky: =)
[21:06] <JuzFX> what is ssh?
[21:06] <grendal_prime> Im running a choice few kde apps.  Klipper and quanta.  When i start up my machine i get a dcop server error, i believe it has something to do with the klipper app that runs in the systray.  I cannot for the life of me track this down though..anybody have any idea how i can or what might be the issue?
[21:06] <Aepos> Gnea: it wouldn't connect to archive.conical.com, but eventually did.
[21:06] <Aepos> Gnea: It's doenloading now.
[21:06] <vonkleist> duomont, generally it is $HOME/.drive_c
[21:06] <Halitech> dumont, it would be a hidden folder /home/username/.wine
[21:06] <Cyber_Akuma> Hey everyone. A very quick and small question. Are there official ubuntu/xubuntu cdcovers so I can print the label on my livecds?
[21:06] <Gnea> Aepos: awesome
[21:06] <Cyber_Akuma> for download I mean
[21:06] <erisco> opera takes a long time to load flash, for example, but once going it runs well. firefox loads flash quickly but often slows down or freezes
[21:06] <Gnea> !ssh  | JuzFX
[21:07] <erisco> how could this possibly be happening?
[21:07] <stefg> Gnea: right ... it's just quite hard to understand the meaning of a tty, a shell and what POSIX is if you're new to unix/linux
[21:07] <Gnea> erisco: because opera sucks
[21:07] <Gnea> stefg: this is true
[21:07] <JuzFX> I mean what would you use SSH for?
[21:07] <erisco> Gnea, but it is running, for example, JBox2D much better
[21:07] <dumont> thanks
[21:07] <Gnea> JuzFX: in place of telnet
[21:07] <JuzFX> !telnet
[21:08] <erisco> Gnea, Firefox will repeatedly freeze every few seconds while Opera will run it smoothly
[21:08] <Gnea> erisco: jbox2d is a web browser?
[21:08] <vonkleist> JuZFX, to connect to your servers via a command line
[21:08] <erisco> Gnea, no it is a physics engine in java and you can test it as a browser applet
[21:08] <bucky> archive.canonical.com is down so everyone upgrade now
[21:08] <Gnea> erisco: oh, I misread-sorry
[21:08] <Aepos> Gnea: I though SSH was for security.
[21:08] <Gnea> Aepos: it is
[21:09] <bucky> Aepos: man ssh
[21:09] <Aepos> Gnea: the only reason I know that was because my buddy has an SSH shirt. :D
[21:09] <Gnea> JuzFX: telnet and ssh allow you to connect to the commandline of a different computer
[21:09] <Gnea> Aepos: lol
[21:10] <JuzFX> Are they used to like fix or examine a computer or to transfer files or both?
[21:10] <vonkleist> JuzFX, you can use ssh for both things
[21:10] <jiohdi> ok I installed the packages for effects, how do I make the cube work?
[21:10] <vonkleist> using a secure channel between them
[21:10] <Slart> !search cube
[21:10] <Slart> !cube
[21:10] <feydr> looking for a 3-way video chat for *nix -- anyone know what I need to look for?
[21:11] <Gnea> JuzFX: they can be. fundamentally, they're used for controlling another computer remotely
[21:12] <JuzFX> If I wanted to build a NAS what programs do i need to install so I can map drive and stream music?
[21:12] <HarrisonF> I upgraded from 8.04 to 8.10 (in preparation to get to 9.04) and now my keyboard/mouse do not work at gdm, it does work to switch to a different console using ctrl+alt+f1 and then when i restart gdm, it works fine when I switch back, any ideas?
[21:12] <joeyeye> Mrokii: you still here ?
[21:13] <hackel> HarrisonF, I ran to an intermittent problem like that on my Dell Mini.  Never did figure out what was wrong, but I haven't seen it since I upgraded to Jaunty.
[21:13] <JuzFX> Is there a command i can type in IRC so I can see what other channels are on freenode?
[21:13] <lstarnes> JuzFX: /list
[21:13] <HarrisonF> hackel, okay, this happens everytime i reboot, i need to restart gdm and then it works fine, i guess i could hold my breath and just upgrade to 9.04 and hope it starts working ;)
[21:13] <lstarnes> JuzFX: also, see /msg alis help list
[21:14] <bucky> JuzFX: which irc client are you using?
[21:14] <stefg> JuzFX: just beam yourself menatally to the middle 70's ... you've got a teletype (tty) typing characters to a command line interface (cli) represented by a shell (interpreting your command lines) .... you don't want anybody to intercept your typing over the phone line, so you encrypt the characters .... that'S ssh :-)
[21:14] <jeremy2> has anyone successfully install cisco vpn client in jaunty 32bit
[21:15] <HarrisonF> hackel, okay, guess i will do that, hope it works out =)
[21:15] <JuzFX> hmm msg alis does not work
[21:15] <bucky> JuzFX: which irc client are you using?
[21:16] <fr500-work> hi
[21:16] <JuzFX> I am using Colloquy for mac its very pretty ..lol
[21:16] <Kottizen> Mac sucks.
[21:16] <bucky> JuzFX:  /list
[21:16] <JuzFX> Mac does not suck
[21:16] <Kottizen> Prepare for much information...
[21:17] <fr500-work> i installed ubuntu on my intel atom board, I have a question though, mii-tool says it's nic it's operating at 1000M/HD while ethtool says 1000MB/FD which one can i trust?
[21:17] <gregh7470> I'm having a serious problem with a 'stuck package
[21:17] <stefg> Kottizen: prepare for taking that to #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:17] <Kottizen> stefg: #Offtopic is better :)
[21:18] <JuzFX> there is much the same applications for mac as there is for linux
[21:18] <bucky> JuzFX:  /list
[21:18] <JuzFX> bucky list pop up a menu but no rooms show up in the menu
[21:18] <aperson> is there anyone else getting:   Could not connect to archive.canonical.com:80 (91.189.90.142), connection timed out from apt?
[21:18] <bucky> downloading acrobat from archive.canonical.com ...    4010B/s 4h 16min 5s   Wooo Hooo!
[21:19]  * stefg anyway has to agree to Kottizen that mac sucks :-)
[21:19] <bucky> JuzFX: is there a refresh button or something in that Mac dialog box that doesn't suck?
[21:19] <norman_> hola a todos
[21:20] <JuzFX> there is probablly a xchat for mac i will just get that
[21:20] <gregh7470> I'm trying to remove a package and this is the error  I get: http://paste.ubuntu.com/248219/
[21:20] <vonkleist> JuzFX, if you need help with Colloquy, maybe you should ask @ colloquy channel
[21:20] <Mrokii> JuzFX, xchat for Mac is rather old
[21:21] <Mrokii> JuzFX, if you want a free irc-client for Mac, I would suggest Colloquy
[21:21] <JuzFX> Mrokil what then?
[21:21] <Cyber_Akuma> So are there any? I had ones for my xubuntu 8.10 cd but I don't know wher eI got them and can't find new ones
[21:21] <bucky> Mrokii: he is using Colloquy
[21:22] <bucky> got irssi ?
[21:22] <bucky> how about a computer that can run linux!
[21:22] <JuzFX> Shut up!  I have vmware fusion i can run linux!
[21:22] <norman_> hola, tengo una pregunta de seguridad
[21:22] <gregh7470>  I'm having a serious problem with a 'stuck' package...trying to remove a package and this is the error  I get: http://paste.ubuntu.com/248219/
[21:22] <ejv> !spanish | norman_
[21:22] <stefg> JuzFX:
[21:23] <stefg> JuzFX: don't take it personally ...
[21:23] <JuzFX> I am trying to figure out Mac because the UI does not look like its from 95 and it has a program called "Photoshop"
[21:23] <ScottG> I need help with my hosts file. I put "site.com something" as a line in my /etc/hosts file. However, when i ping site.com, it is different than when I ping something
[21:23] <jrib> JuzFX: you can run photoshop in wine iirc
[21:23] <aperson> JuzFX, my ui doesn't look likes it's from 95
[21:23] <jrib> JuzFX: and there's gimp...
[21:24] <stefg> ... ah ... flamewars ! :-) where's the popcorn ?
[21:24] <JuzFX> well when you first download ubuntu it looks like it from 95, gimp is nothing like ps, and i heard wine lags
[21:24] <MacGyverNL> Have to make it first. Heat up oil on the flames.
[21:25] <jrib> JuzFX: ok.  What do you need help with now?
[21:25] <JuzFX> i love ubuntu you just have to change everything to look nice
[21:25] <JuzFX> thank god they finally got rid of that wiry looking font too
[21:26] <JuzFX> i want to create a NAS powered by linux that communicates with win and mac
[21:26] <Whoop> http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/456/nerdpornyy6.jpg
[21:27] <vonkleist> JuzFX, do you have network/filesystems skills?
[21:27] <ejv> let's keep it G-rated in here, ok Whoop ?
[21:27] <blaz3> Whoop: they make it in green ??
[21:27] <vonkleist> If not, go and try FreeNAS
[21:28] <JuzFX> I am trying to get skills I just dont know where to start
[21:28] <vonkleist> Well... I don't think #ubuntu is the best place to
[21:28] <gregh7470>  I'm having a serious problem with a 'stuck' package...trying to remove a package and this is the error  I get: http://paste.ubuntu.com/248219/
[21:28] <JuzFX> Is there a book or something i can pick up
[21:28] <gregh7470> can anyone help?
[21:29] <th0r> JuzFX: try the linux documentation project tldp.org
[21:29] <Guest67317> can any-one plese help me try to get my ubuntu 9.04 cd out of my dvd/cd drive.it is say that i am not the user and it will not let it out
[21:29] <Guest67317> i dont know want to do
[21:29] <jetsaredim> any way to get python 2.5 installed under 9.04
[21:29] <donnybrasco> bucky: you are becomming my go-to person :) hahaha - will you help me with this - "http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Asoundrc"?
[21:29] <jrib> jetsaredim: apt-cache search -n python 2.5
[21:29] <jetsaredim> jrib: yea - i tried to install python2.5 but no dice
[21:30] <jrib> jetsaredim: what does "no dice" mean exactly?
[21:30] <donnybrasco> I thought I had done everything right, but then I got an error on restart - so I deleted .asoundrc and started over
[21:30] <jetsaredim> o - ha
[21:30] <jetsaredim> already installed - my bad
[21:30] <Guest67317> my ubuntu cd is stuck in my dvd dirve .and i can get it out
[21:30] <iceroot> Guest67317: type "eject" in the terminal
[21:30] <ejv> jrib: an expression that means, unsuccessful, basically.
[21:30] <iceroot> Guest67317: and if that does not work, try sudo eject
[21:31] <stefg> gregh7470: try manually changing xulrunner default by 'sudo update-alternatives --config xulrunner'
[21:31] <ndroftheline> Hey all I'm having trouble getting an external HD to mount
[21:31] <jrib> ndroftheline: what kind of trouble....?
[21:31] <ndroftheline> I pulled it out of an old computer here at the lab and I have to pull off sensitive data and trash it
[21:31] <iceroot> !mount | ndroftheline
[21:31] <Guest67317> thanks you verry much it work
[21:31] <iceroot> Guest67317: eject or sudo eject?
[21:31] <ejv> jrib: "no dice" is used to indicate that there is no chance or probability of the event happening. Dice represents the likelyhood of whatever item taking place (by the roll of the die), and not having dice means that there is not even a slim chance.
[21:32] <Guest67317> i said it work
[21:32] <Hilikus> i recreAated the grub menu but for some reason my pc doesnt boot now saying it can't find the specified partition, my menu.lst has a suspicious entry for root
[21:32] <Guest67317> it is out
[21:32] <jrib> ejv: I understand, I was just asking what happened when he tried to install it
[21:32] <iceroot> Guest67317: and i asked which command worked
[21:32] <Hilikus> it says root ()/ubuntu/disks
[21:32] <iceroot> !who Guest67317
[21:32] <ejv> jrib: ah ;)
[21:32] <ndroftheline> jrib, i plugged it into an external caddy and it's not mounting. gparted recognizes it has an hfs partition but says there are 4 smaller partitions in front of it that are unrecognzied.
[21:32] <Hilikus> i know inside the () should be the hdd
[21:32] <iceroot> !who | Guest67317
[21:32] <jrib> ejv: thanks though :)
[21:32] <ejv> jrib: np ;)
[21:32] <ndroftheline> jrib, i'm moderately familiar with the mount command and have tried a number of iterations.
[21:32] <Hilikus> but what about that /ubuntu/disks next to iy
[21:32] <Guest67317> sudo  ... it is the one i did it wokr first
[21:32] <Hilikus> is that normal?
[21:33] <Guest67317> iceroot. sudo is the one
[21:33] <iceroot> Guest67317: ok, nice to know
[21:33] <Guest67317> thank u
[21:34] <bucky> donnybrasco: is there a reason you're not installing asoundconf-gtk and running that nice graphical configuration tool?
[21:34] <iceroot> Guest67317: np
[21:34] <Guest67317> ok
[21:34] <Cynope> iceroot: er.. Is there anyway to see the irc_bot's available resources ? [ commands / links / etc? ]
[21:34] <donnybrasco> bucky: I didn't know that was an option - I'm just bumbling my way through here :)
[21:35] <ndroftheline> hey does anybody know why gparted is detecting 4 unrecognizable partitions in front of the HFS partition on this hard drive I pulled from a lab computer?
[21:35] <stefg> ndroftheline: OSX weirdness .. EFI and stuff
[21:35] <vonkleist> ndroftheline: pastebin fdisk -l
[21:36] <iceroot> !test
[21:36] <Bsims> OK Why is http://archive.canonical.com being amazingly slow I think I am downloading at 4.8k
[21:36] <iceroot> bot is dead atm
[21:36] <donnybrasco> bucky: trying that now
[21:36] <joeyeye> ndroftheline: post the output of sudo fdisk -l and lets see
[21:36] <boss_mc> iceroot: why do you say that?
[21:36] <danbhfive> Bsims: why are you using canonical, and not ubuntu?
[21:36] <stefg> !mirrors | Bsims
[21:36] <svartr> Ran fsck manually, everything appears fine now... thanks for the help, Slart.
[21:36] <iceroot> boss_mc: beacuse he did not anwser at "help"
[21:36] <ndroftheline> workin' on it, sorry i was messing with the channel pins one sec
[21:37] <Keiffer> Hi. I want to ssh in to my machine from another PC. how that can be done?
[21:37] <iceroot> boss_mc: /msg ubottu help  so i thught he is dead
[21:37] <jrib> !ssh > Keiffer
[21:37] <Keiffer> !ui ssh
[21:37] <Keiffer> !ssh
[21:37] <iceroot> Keiffer: install ssh-server (sudo apt-get install openssh-server) then type ssh user@host
[21:37] <boss_mc> iceroot: he doesn't know anything about help so he wouldn't
[21:37] <Bsims> danbhfive: its for adobe flash
[21:37] <ndroftheline> http://pastebin.com/m12cb86a5
[21:37] <ndroftheline> there's my pastebin of sudo fdisk -l
[21:38] <iceroot> boss_mc: normally he says "sorry i dont know anything about help"
[21:38] <j_lemens> hi i'm having a problem with my ubuntu
[21:38] <svartr> I'm out... peace all.
[21:38] <Keiffer> iceroot, and how can I be sure that nobody will bruteforce the login?
[21:38] <iceroot> !thing-you-cant-know
[21:38] <iceroot> Keiffer: using a different port
[21:38] <Bsims> danbhfive: its for adobe flash, and thats the address I have always used for commercial partners
[21:38] <iceroot> Keiffer: also have a look at fail2ban
[21:39] <boss_mc> iceroot: he doesn't reply to messages if he doesn't understand
[21:39] <j_lemens> is there any one who can help me?
[21:39] <ndroftheline> stefg, joeyeye vonkleist so it appears the partition table is bad...
[21:39] <danbhfive> Bsims: i c.  I didn't know adobe was a partner.
[21:39] <Bsims> j_lemens: how about you tell us what the problem actually is
[21:39] <stefg> ndroftheline: indeed
[21:39] <gregh7470> stefg: working on it
[21:39] <boss_mc> Keiffer: set up your firewall to only allow connections from certain, trusted machines
[21:39] <Keiffer> icerootm thanks.
[21:39] <joeyeye> ndroftheline: it appears that way ...
[21:39] <Bsims> danbhfive: it is for flashplugin
[21:39] <boss_mc> !ask |j_lemens
[21:39] <iceroot> boss_mc: ah ok its because of /msg. in this channel he does
[21:39] <ndroftheline> stefg, joeyeye well can i re-write the partition table and still access the 4 gigs of data on there?
[21:39] <ndroftheline> stefg, joeyeye on gparted it shows an hfs partition
[21:40] <iceroot> Cynope: http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi
[21:40] <mod_cure> tyrijg to install ssh -> apt-get install sshd  E: Couldn't find package sshd
[21:40] <Keiffer> boss_mc, i thing the other machine has a dynamical IP address
[21:40] <danbhfive> Bsims: oh, I still get the installer from archive.ubuntu.com
[21:40] <Cynope> iceroot: Thanks :)
[21:40] <vonkleist> ndroftheline: if you don't care about data on it, you can reinitialize it
[21:40] <iceroot> mod_cure: sudi apt-get install openssh-server
[21:40] <boss_mc> Keiffer: on the same LAN? or over the internets?
[21:40] <iceroot> mod_cure: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[21:40] <joeyeye> ndroftheline: can you mount the filesystem ?
[21:40] <ndroftheline> vonkleist, and if i do care about the data...? heh
[21:40] <mod_cure> thanks
[21:40] <ndroftheline> joeyeye, thats what i'm trying to do
[21:40] <iceroot> mod_cure: np
[21:40] <ndroftheline> system says that /dev/sdb5, which gparted reports as the hfs partition, doesn't exist.
[21:40] <stefg> ndroftheline: don't do anything before you took a backup if there's important data on that... dd is your friend
[21:41] <Bsims> Any one have any experence with the gigabyte ga-ma770t-ud3p motherboard it uses the AMD 770 and AMD SB710 chipsets
[21:41] <stumpie> hello, I am a refugee from window XP, I am loving ubuntu :D , can anyone please tell me how i might rip audio. in windows I use Audacity, but the audacity from apt-get dose not seem to have this feature. So, how do you guys rip audio? TIA :D
[21:41] <ndroftheline> stefg, righto...so dd /dev/sdb ~/backup ?
[21:41] <donnybrasco> bucky: ok, I installed the program, but it gives the following error: Failure:connection refused - any idea why?
[21:41] <Keiffer> bos_mc, over internet
[21:41] <th0r> stumpie: grip or acidrip
[21:41] <Bsims> stumpie: I like soundjuicer for cds
[21:42] <iceroot> !tab | Keiffer
[21:42] <Slart> !rip
[21:42] <stefg> ndroftheline: dd if=/dev/sdb of=backup bs=4k
[21:42] <Bsims> stumpie: for dvds I got to go with k9copy
[21:42] <th0r> stumpie: not acidrip...asunder
[21:42] <aboSamoor> how can I run notify-osd if was crashed ?
[21:42] <ndroftheline> stefg, ok be back when that's done. i can dd it to a directory on an external hd right?
[21:42] <fatagn> irc://irc.fumbbl.com/zergeln
[21:42] <vonkleist> ndroftheline: you'll get a file the size of the whole hard disk
[21:42] <stefg> ndroftheline: yes
[21:42] <ojii> if i delete something with 'rm' in commandline, is there a way to recover it?
[21:42] <Keiffer> iceroot, thanks :D
[21:43] <ndroftheline> vonkleist, yeh figured that thanks for the heads up haha it woudn't fit on my 8 gig netbook ssd
[21:43] <boss_mc> Keiffer: well, then changing ports sounds like your best plan
[21:43] <kevor> ojii: no trash bin behind "rm", you could try to find a file recovery tool
[21:43] <Slart> ojii: try photorec or possibly testdisk
[21:43] <j_lemens> i am very new at this ubuntu so this may sound retarded...i have an old enhanced cd in my cdrom and im trying to eject it its giving me an error DBus error org.gtk.Private.RemoteVolumeMonitor.Failed: An operation is already pending....i don't know what that means
[21:43] <boss_mc> Keiffer: bruteforcing a password is a bit of a pain anyway...
[21:43] <Slart> !recover
[21:43] <stumpie> thanks Bsims  and th0r  :D
[21:43] <jacquesdupontd> re
[21:43] <bankix> Good eavening.
[21:44] <vonkleist> ndroftheline: well, the disk looks like a 4GB disk, so...
[21:44] <RadSurfer2> Ubuntu really does not like playing well with graphics cards does it :(
[21:44] <bucky> donnybrasco: i used oss because alsa is such a mess... but googling i found this http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-660648.html  scroll down to pcm.!default {  did asound-gtk make a new .asoundrc file for you?
[21:44] <Keiffer> boss_mc, ok. thanks. I hope it I wil be ok. I have no means to test it now...
[21:44] <boss_mc> Keiffer: you can also set up the login to only allow a certain number of attempts (and the ssh server the same) but I don't know how...
[21:44] <RadSurfer2> any other distro has no problem here, Ubuntu just will not play nice :(
[21:44] <iceroot> ojii: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-security-4/security-references-45261/  chapter 5
[21:44] <jacquesdupontd> i wanted to know cause it was possible before if we can still have a zoom out and a zoom in transition on the cube of compiz-fusion cause i've searched with no result
[21:44] <ndroftheline> vonkleist, yeah i have a dual boot xp/jaunty unr going here so i have like 100 mb free total
[21:44] <iceroot> ojii: but normally you cant
[21:45] <RadSurfer2> Once you get to the blue logo and white letters, what options am I suppose to have?
[21:45] <bankix> RadSurfer2: It does play very well.
[21:45] <vonkleist> ndroftheline: that's bad... :P (having XP on it, I mean)
[21:45] <RadSurfer2> How does one log in?
[21:45] <RadSurfer2> There is NO prompt on the screen
[21:45] <stumpie> is there any application out there that simply records all the sounds on my desktop to a .WAV file? TIA :D
[21:45] <iceroot> boss_mc: Keiffer only allowing a certain number of failed logins will behandled with the tool fail2ban
[21:45] <RadSurfer2> just this BLUE LOGO and WHITE letters
[21:45] <ndroftheline> vonkleist, yeah i know but my netbook gets like 30% more battery with windows
[21:45] <boss_mc> iceroot: correct!
[21:45] <ndroftheline> vonkleist, which is a separate issue i work on in my spare time
[21:46] <Bsims> Any one have any experence with the gigabyte ga-ma770t-ud3p motherboard it uses the AMD 770 and AMD SB710 chipsets
[21:46] <monostone> hi, i'm trying to setup bogofilter antispam with qmail, via the dot qmail files, i've tried the condredirect option but it doesn't work for me, could anyone enlighten me with some pointers here please?
[21:46] <ndroftheline> vonkleist, when i'm not doing something important
[21:46] <danbhfive> RadSurfer2: is it a Xubuntu logo?
[21:46] <iceroot> Keiffer: just use a good keyword and use another ssh port, then you dont have to be afraid
[21:46] <bankix> RadSurfer2: What blue logo? I don't remember any.
[21:46] <RadSurfer2> That round frisby thing or whatever it is. 9.04
[21:46] <RadSurfer2> Ubuntu studio
[21:46] <SkyTech> I have a few questions ... I do not have ubuntul installed yet, I want to install it but I need some clarifications if someone could help ...
[21:46] <iceroot> ndroftheline: use the tool powertop to see which app is using the battery-power
[21:46] <RadSurfer2> or is that a separate channel?
[21:46] <jacquesdupontd> found it
[21:46] <boss_mc> SkyTech: ask away
[21:46] <Slart> SkyTech, just ask
[21:47] <jacquesdupontd> it was the last line
[21:47] <RadSurfer2> How do I log in?
[21:47] <donnybrasco> bucky: when I run asound-gtk from the terminal, I get this "You need to make sure asoundconf is active! By default, asoundconf's configuration file is ~/.asoundrc.asoundconf and must be included in ~/.asoundrc. Open this file to make sure it is!"
[21:47] <RadSurfer2> there is not even a prompt
[21:47] <SkyTech> I have a few HDD's with info on them, they are NTFS ... will ubuntu read/write on them ?!
[21:47] <th0r> SkyTech: yes
[21:47] <danbhfive> RadSurfer2: I don't know about Ubuntu-studio.  It might be a separate thing.
[21:47] <iceroot> SkyTech: yes ubuntu can read/write ntfs
[21:47] <bankix> RadSurfer2: Ah, ubuntustudio is something different. You'll have to ask these people.
[21:47] <gregh7470> !pastebin
[21:47] <iceroot> !ntfs | SkyTech
[21:47] <donnybrasco> so, basically, I'm not sure :)
[21:47] <Brazz> glxinfo | grep "direct rendering" what does it do?
[21:47] <RadSurfer2> Whats da channel?
[21:48] <ndroftheline> iceroot, yeah i have. lots. i've cusotmzed the crap out of this install and improved my batt life by a good 30 mins...but still it's 2/3 of windows. i get 2 hours max on linux, 3.25 on windows
[21:48] <DelphiWorld> hello
[21:48] <bankix> RadSurfer2: Dunno. Maybe there isn't one.
[21:48] <DelphiWorld> please how to install LXDE using apt-get?
[21:48] <joeyeye> ndroftheline: I think the invalid partition table message is misleading, it really means there's a partition table, but it's empty ...
[21:48] <iceroot> ndroftheline: 9.04?
[21:48] <Keiffer> iceroot, ok, thanks. any way to test after finishing to see if it will work?
[21:48] <Bsims> DelphiWorld: sudo apt-get install lxde?
[21:48] <iceroot> RadSurfer2: #ubuntustudio
[21:48] <gregh7470> stefg:  when I follow your suggestion I get this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/248240/
[21:48] <Brazz> iceroot: do you know what the glxinfo | grep "direct rendering" command-line does?
[21:48] <bucky> donnybrasco: gedit ..asoundrc/asoundconf
[21:49] <iceroot> Keiffer: you mean fail2ban?
[21:49] <gnr> ndroftheline:there's a tool called pdisk in openbsd
[21:49] <bucky> donnybrasco: gedit .asoundrc/asoundconf
[21:49] <SkyTech> is there a place where I can see if a PCI adaptor card will work on ubuntu ?!
[21:49] <bucky> donnybrasco: you gave me too many periods
[21:49] <gregh7470> stefg: i can't even remove the package - I get an error there as well
[21:49] <ndroftheline> iceroot, yep
[21:49] <lstarnes> Brazz: it should tell you if you have direct rendering enabled
[21:49] <ndroftheline> gnr, what's pdisk do
[21:49] <iceroot> SkyTech: i am using google with  hardwarename + ubuntuversion
[21:49] <DelphiWorld> Bsims: while try
[21:49] <ndroftheline> !pdisk
[21:49] <bankix> SkyTech: None I know of.
[21:49] <Brazz> lstarnes:  Thank you
[21:49] <bucky> donnybrasco: is the file there?
[21:49] <ndroftheline> !hfsplus
[21:49] <donnybrasco> bucky: it's blank
[21:50] <DelphiWorld> Bsims: thanks!
[21:50] <SkyTech> thanx iceroot and bankix
[21:50] <ndroftheline> is there any way to ask dd to provide feedback as to how far along it is?
[21:50] <DelphiWorld> Bsims: BYE
[21:50] <DelphiWorld> bye all
[21:50] <iceroot> !hardware | SkyTech
[21:50] <bankix> SkyTech: What card are you looking for?
[21:50] <joeyeye> ndroftheline: did you try to mount using mount -t hfsplus ?
[21:50] <SkyTech> STLAB A-224
[21:50] <SkyTech> adapter from PCI to sata II
[21:50] <Keiffer> iceroot, no. i want to see if tommorow i will login without problems. to test it. now i hav acces only to my pc
[21:50] <donnybrasco> bucky: should I save and close, or do I have to input anything?
[21:50] <bucky> donnybrasco: it may have not created a directory called .asoundrc  if you already had a file called .asoundrc  remember we talked about that
[21:50] <gnr> ndroftheline:apparently it's counterpart is mac-fdisk http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/base/mac-fdisk
[21:50] <ndroftheline> joeyeye, yeah it said it didn't recognize hfsplus
[21:51] <j_lemens> hey I'm new at ubuntu and I'm  trying to eject a cd out of my cdrom and it's giving me an error: An application is preventing the volume 'Enhanced' from being unmounted. I don't understand what that is
[21:51] <iceroot> Keiffer: ah ok
[21:51] <bucky> donnybrasco: don't save it
[21:51] <iceroot> Keiffer: normally its just working fine without problems
[21:51] <bankix> SkyTech: Should work.
[21:51] <ndroftheline> joeyeye, then i installed hfsplus, which is a system apparently for mounting hfsplus partitions
[21:51] <SkyTech> iceroot ideea was good :D
[21:51] <ndroftheline> and it returned an error too
[21:51] <bankix> SkyTech: It's a Sil 3114 chip, afaik.
[21:51] <gnr> ndroftheline:print partition map
[21:51] <Xanthomryr> !pastebinit
[21:51] <jduggan> guys, i know flash video relies on cpu, but is there anything that can be done to improve framerate? im getting awfully choppy video on bbc iplayer/youtube on an aspire one
[21:52] <donnybrasco> bucky: ok, so should I delete .asoundrc and re-install?
[21:52] <iceroot> j_lemens: and application is using the cd-rom. the dirty way is "sudo eject" and it will open
[21:52] <bucky> donnybrasco: if you have a *file* called .asoundrc  mv .asoundrc asoundrc.bak and apt-get install --reinstall asoundconf-gtk
[21:52] <ndroftheline> gnr, it's already on pastebin, there's no recognizable partition table
[21:52] <j_lemens> how do i do that?
[21:52] <Cube> ok this is dirving me mad. why is firefox loading the SAME tabs all the time again? it seems like its thinks its starting for the first time all the time. 3.5.2 is the version. it also makes every plugin think firefox starts for the first time. what should i do!?!?!?!?!?!
[21:52] <iceroot> jduggan: which flash version?
[21:52] <bankix> jduggan: Do you have an intel onboard chipset?
[21:52] <gregh7470> stefg: someone just answered me in the forums...problem is fixed and I really appreciate your help
[21:52] <iceroot> jduggan: 9 or 10?
[21:52] <Hilikus_> so i installed ubuntu using wubi and then installed it in its own partition but for some reason grub still thinks i'm using wubi so when i recreate the grub menu it sets it to boot from the virtual windows drive. how can i stop that?
[21:52] <RadSurfer2> Does anyone know what options I should have when I'm at a login screen? I do not have anything except a big blue logo and white letters. Now what. Seems no one has a clue.
[21:52] <djcrx> hey room, stupid question whats the software called that shows you cpu ram etc on the desktop?
[21:52] <gregh7470> stefg: this was the fix: sudo xulrunner-1.9 --register-global
[21:52] <jduggan> iceroot, version 10, absolute latest from their site
[21:52] <lstarnes> djcrx: it might be conky
[21:53] <xoomie> Having a problem with seperate X screens (using nvidia-settings), I can't move my mouse to the second display. Any help?
[21:53] <ndroftheline> RadSurfer2, are you on a livecd?
[21:53] <jduggan> bankix: yes i do, its an acer aspire one, with atom cpu
[21:53] <gregh7470> now firefox works!  Yeaaaa!!
[21:53] <joeyeye> ndroftheline: where did the disk come from (what OS ?)
[21:53] <iceroot> jduggan: hm ok, there was a problem with 9
[21:53] <RadSurfer2> ubuntustudio 9.04 i386
[21:53] <bankix> jduggan: It's a know problem with the intel graphics driver in ubuntu.
[21:53] <RadSurfer2> they weren't answering ove there.
[21:53] <donnybrasco> bucky: I do have the file - following previous instructions
[21:53] <ndroftheline> joeyeye, honestly i don't know. it was plugged into an old 486 looking box.
[21:53] <iceroot> jduggan: but i am using the version from the repos,, its working ok here
[21:53] <djcrx> Lstarnes thanks
[21:53] <gregh7470> thank you all - l8t3r
[21:53] <gnr> ndroftheline:fdisk linux don't handle mac's partition efficiently... you can give pdisk/mac-fdisk a try
[21:53] <j_lemens> iceroot: how do i  sudo eject?
[21:53] <bucky> donnybrasco: that's why asoundconf-gtk would not over write your file with a directory by the same name
[21:54] <Varox> hey all!
[21:54] <jduggan> bankix: any fix?
[21:54] <ndroftheline> gnr, yeah but don't i have to use bsd or mac for that?
[21:54] <iceroot> j_lemens: type it in the terminal
[21:54] <bankix> jduggan: Listen to iceroot.
[21:54] <Varox> did somone of you try to update to kde 4.3?
[21:54] <ndroftheline> hrm i guess i could jus tplug it into my g4 haha
[21:54] <Varox> today
[21:54] <Cube> ok this is dirving me mad. why is firefox loading the SAME tabs all the time again? it seems like its thinks its starting for the first time all the time. 3.5.2 is the version. it also makes every plugin think firefox starts for the first time. what should i do!?!?!?!?!?!
[21:54] <iceroot> j_lemens: applications - accesoirs - terminal
[21:54] <jduggan> bankix: unless i missed a comment, he said it was working fine for him, no advice was given :S
[21:54] <bankix> jduggan: He's using a newer driver not present in the main repository.
[21:54] <frodon1> Hello to all. Is it possible to install Ubuntu on a USB harddisk and to boot from there, but WITHOUT having any boot manager (Grub or other) or other data on the main disk of the computer (which is a Mac Mini in this case, with Mac OS X on its hard disk)?
[21:55] <jduggan> bankix: ah
[21:55] <bucky> Cube: when you quit  press the Quit not Save and Quit
[21:55] <bankix> jduggan: Then ask him ;-)
[21:55] <iceroot> j_lemens: or alt + f2, type gnome-terminal and then you have a terminal for sudo eject
[21:55] <ndroftheline> hey is it a big deal that i didn't add the option bs=4k to dd, stefg ?
[21:55] <joeyeye> ndroftheline: OS/2 ?
[21:55] <jduggan> iceroot: can you advise how to upgrade the driver?
[21:55] <iceroot> frodon1: sure
[21:55] <ndroftheline> joeyeye, possible heck
[21:55] <SkyTech> as beginer in unix what is best OS ?!
[21:55] <bankix> jduggan: Due I don't need high frame rates here, I'll stay with the old driver till 9.10.
[21:55] <ndroftheline> joeyeye, i hadn't thought of that
[21:55] <donnybrasco> bucky: I can't tell you how much I appreciate the help :)
[21:55] <ndroftheline> joeyeye, what does that tell you?
[21:55] <joeyeye> ndroftheline: or maybe part of a RAID set ?
[21:55] <iceroot> frodon1: just install to the usb device and in the installation say grub to write to the usb-drive, not the hdd
[21:55] <gnr> ndroftheline:it's in dapper.... http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/base/mac-fdisk , only mac arch is the req
[21:55] <iceroot> jduggan: which driver?
[21:55] <bankix> SkyTech: Slackware of course...
[21:56] <hackel> SkiDawg, probably...UNIX.  If that's what you're interested in.
[21:56] <stefg> ndroftheline: no... it would just have sped things up ... bs != bullshit .. bs==block size :-)
[21:56] <jduggan> iceroot: bankix suggests youre running intel driver not from the main repos
[21:56] <ndroftheline> joeyeye, nah its not raid it was in the system by itself and it hadn't been opened in years
[21:56] <Cube> bucky: yeah i did that
[21:56] <SkyTech> Slackware easyer to learn then ubuntu ?!
[21:56] <gpled> how do i get mib printers to work with snmp ?
[21:56] <J3ny> hi guys, would anyone recomend a place to learn about security in ubuntu? i want to check if my computer is voulnerable to some sort of hacker attacks
[21:56] <frodon1> iceroot: does the installation ask me where grub should write or do I have to pay attention to something specific?
[21:56] <gpled> i think it is missing from the package
[21:56] <iceroot> jduggan: i am running intel-drivers from ppa (for my eeepc because intel drivers from the repos are very very verY!! bad) wait i will search for the link
[21:57] <iceroot> frodon1: yes, its asking
[21:57] <donnybrasco> bucky: ok- so the program's reinstalled with no errors upon startup
[21:57] <jduggan> iceroot: thanks
[21:57] <hackel> SkyTech, no, it's NOT easier to learn--that's why it's better for a beginner--you'll learn more. :)  But Linux != UNIX.
[21:57] <frodon1> iceroot: thank you very much!
[21:57] <Cube> bucky: it's also screwed up/reset all the toolbars i set
[21:57] <ndroftheline> jduggan, hey are you using aao?
[21:57] <Brazz> lstarnes: hehe I just checked my xorg.conf and nothing was changed...
[21:57] <chiques> What is the quickest way to boot an Ubuntu installation? Hard disk, flash drive, SCSI or USB?
[21:57] <iceroot> frodon1: before the installation starts, there is a option called extras, advantage or something like that, there you can correct the path for grub
[21:57] <ndroftheline> chiques, usb
[21:57] <danbhfive> SkyTech: heh, I think its harder to learn, thats what makes it "good" for learning linux
[21:57] <joeyeye> ndroftheline: linux can read (not write) to HPFS ... try to mount using  mount -t hpfs
[21:57] <bucky> Cube: that's a feature
[21:57] <Brazz> lstarnes: at least the ctrl+alt+backspace command worked this time
[21:57] <chiques> ndroftheline, Thanks!
[21:57] <evilKB1JWQ> SkyTech: FreeBSD if you're into Unix.
[21:57] <jduggan> ndroftheline: believe so
[21:57] <ndroftheline> joeyeye, ok i will as soon as i'm done dding it
[21:57] <Brazz> lstarnes: I guess I'll have to do it all over again
[21:58] <ndroftheline> jduggan, have you tried sickb0y's kernel?
[21:58] <bucky> Cube where did you get this FF ?
[21:58] <SkyTech> I just need to set up a box for torrenting/irc/ftp and forget about it ... windows not stable enought for that
[21:58] <SkyTech> with all the updates and exploits
[21:58] <Dark_Wolf> Does anyone have any clue why logging out or bringing the laptop out of suspend causes the X server to stop working? The only time it ever works is if I do a normal boot, but anything that would turn the monitor off for even a second kills it.
[21:58] <iceroot> jduggan: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1130582  i am using the safe-one
[21:58] <j_lemens> iceroot: this is what i got:  /media/cdrom0: device is busy.
[21:58] <j_lemens>         (In some cases useful info about processes that use
[21:58] <j_lemens>          the device is found by lsof(8) or fuser(1))
[21:58] <j_lemens> eject: unmount of `/media/cdrom0' failed
[21:58] <iceroot> jduggan: working ok on my eeepc 701
[21:58] <FloodBot1> j_lemens: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:59] <ndroftheline> Dark_Wolf, if you're using proprietary drivers and compiz/fusion then that's a known problem
[21:59] <hellhound> i am getting the following error when I try to open the Synaptic Package Manager: "Failed to run /usr/bin/software-properties-gtk as user root      Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file"
[21:59] <Varox> did you guys have the same problem by updating to kde 4.3 like i do in this tread? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1232503
[21:59] <bankix> Dark_Wolf: Maybe a power saving problem. Did you try "acpi=off" on the boot line?
[21:59] <Dark_Wolf> ndroftheline, I'm not using either of them.
[21:59] <iceroot> j_lemens: maybe have a look with lsof | grep cdrom  what is using it
[21:59] <ndroftheline> Dark_Wolf, what video card you using?
[21:59] <Dark_Wolf> bankix: I will as soon as these updates finish
[22:00] <guntbert> hellhound: did you use sudo or gksudo?
[22:00] <iceroot> Varox: #kubuntu
[22:00] <Varox> iceroot: thanks
[22:00] <ndroftheline> joeyeye, so i can mount a partition on a disk with a screwed partition table?
[22:00] <Dark_Wolf> ndroftheline, Intel integrated 82845G
[22:00] <hellhound> guntbert, sudo
[22:00] <jacquesdupontd> ok cya guys
[22:00] <joeyeye> ndroftheline: umm.... dunno!
[22:00] <ndroftheline> Dark_Wolf, what kernel version?
[22:00] <guntbert> !gksudo | hellhound (that may be why)
[22:01] <ndroftheline> joeyeye, haha. would an hpfs partition show up on ubuntu as having a damaged partition table?
[22:01] <Dark_Wolf> ndroftheline, The latest.
[22:01] <bieb> on Jaunty, when you logout or shutdown, there is a 60 second timer, you can click "logout" when the timer box appears.... Where can I find the settings for this? I am not sure what it would be called. I want to drop the timer down to 10-15 seconds
[22:01] <bankix> Dark_Wolf: caution, this will disable nearly all power saving features. Other boot options you could try are "noapic" and "nolapic", in case it's an interrupt problem.
[22:01] <xoomie> Can anyone help with setting up 'seperate x screens
[22:01] <xoomie> with nvidia-settings?
[22:01] <Dark_Wolf> ndroftheline, forgot the command to get the exact version
[22:01] <jduggan> ndroftheline: no i havent tried his kernel... what would this achieve?
[22:01] <Varox> iceroot: are you sure there is a channel called #kubuntu? for some reason i can't join
[22:01] <j_lemens> iceroot: ok....how do i do that...im sorry im new at this program and don't know my way around very well
[22:01] <ndroftheline> Dark_Wolf, meaning...you installed it from the repos or you're compiling a new build nightly?
[22:01] <joeyeye> ndroftheline: well the device is mounted, right - so maybe the hpfs fs driver doesn't care about the partition table being empty?
[22:01] <Dark_Wolf> ndroftheline, repos
[22:01] <ndroftheline> jduggan, well for me it resulted in a significant performance boost
[22:01] <iceroot> Varox: yes
[22:02] <ndroftheline> joeyeye, nah it's not mounting tat's my trouble
[22:02] <bieb> Varox: The topic for #kubuntu
[22:02] <bieb> yes there is a kubuntu channel
[22:02] <ndroftheline> joeyeye, all i wanna do is backup the important stuff and wipe it clean
[22:02] <ndroftheline> Dark_Wolf, what version is it?
[22:02] <joeyeye> ndroftheline: you tried with -t hpfs ?
[22:02] <ndroftheline> Dark_Wolf, jus tbecause i know the kernel was not playing nicely with intel video for a while
[22:02] <ndroftheline> joeyeye, not yet sorry i have to wait for it to finish dd
[22:02] <iceroot> j_lemens: type "lsof | grep cdrom" in the terminal
[22:02] <SkyTech> thank you all for the info!
[22:02] <ndroftheline> joeyeye, trying now infact
[22:02] <iceroot> j_lemens: and paste the output here
[22:02] <Dark_Wolf> ndroftheline, what's the command again?
[22:03] <iceroot> !paste | j_lemens
[22:03] <ndroftheline> joeyeye, unknown filesystem type hpfs
[22:03] <hellhound> guntbert,  well actually i am just selecting it from the System _> Administration" menu as I have always done.  i tried to instaal an application "flightgear" but it would not install (no biggie) but now I cannot open the Software Resources or Synaptic Manager
[22:03] <Dark_Wolf> ndroftheline, the kernel has not played nicely with my graphics since Ubuntu 7.x
[22:03] <ndroftheline> Dark_Wolf, uname -r
[22:03] <guntbert> iceroot: I generally find fuser -m more useful than lsof for this purpose
[22:04] <ndroftheline> Dark_Wolf, lol! well the kernel i run does. but it's a specially compied one for the aspire one
[22:04] <iceroot> guntbert: maybe, never used lsof or fuser, just seen in the help from ubottu :)
[22:04] <ndroftheline> Dark_Wolf, 2.6.31 and later fixes a lot of the intel issues
[22:04] <bieb> on Jaunty, when you logout or shutdown, there is a 60 second timer, you can click "logout" when the timer box appears.... Where can I find the settings for this? I am not sure what it would be called. I want to drop the timer down to 10-15 seconds
[22:04] <Dark_Wolf> ndroftheline, 2.6.28-11-generic
[22:04] <Cube> bucky: from the ubuntuzilla script. and it worked perfectly fine for like 3 weeks now. and what's a feature? i removed all clutter and all toolbars, leaving only the main address bar, some buttons, the search bar, and the tab bar. now you're calling it a feature that FF adds its own default crap again?
[22:05] <ndroftheline> Dark_Wolf, see if you can find a ppa with 2.6.31 on it
[22:05] <Dark_Wolf> ndroftheline, downloading a kernel isn't really an option on dialup
[22:06] <VCoolio> bieb: right click the applet; there's only the option whether to show the dialogs or not
[22:06] <danyocean> q
[22:06] <danyocean> q
[22:06] <danyocean> q
[22:06] <FloodBot1> danyocean: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:06] <ndroftheline> Dark_Wolf, it's a lot less than the distro itself my man, should only be like 15 or 17 megs.
[22:06] <Dawgmatix> am using jaunty - why does tomcat depend on gcj ? shouldnt it try to use whatever java version i am using ?
[22:06] <Dawgmatix> (i am using sun java 6)
[22:06] <bieb> VCoolio: so there is no way to just change the timer setting
[22:06] <ndroftheline> Dark_Wolf, or you can just avoid sleeping it. i bet you could put i tto sleep if you killed X before you slept it, and started x again after it woke up.
[22:06] <Dark_Wolf> ndroftheline, exactly. 16 or 17 megs takes like 3 hours
[22:06] <Hilikus_> my ubuntu still thinks i'm using wubi instead of it's own partition so when i recreate the grub menu it messes everything up pointing to the wrong place and not booting at all. how do i fix this?
[22:07] <guntbert> hellhound: I remember similar problems from running *some* gui-program with sudo (wrong permissions on the xAuthorities file, but I don't remember how to repair...): look at the permissions though, in your homedir there should be no files owned by root
[22:07] <VCoolio> bieb: I can't find it, but there is a file you can edit for sure, the hardcoding way; but don't know if and where
[22:07] <ndroftheline> Dark_Wolf, ok. just sharing what i knew.
[22:07] <Deevz> can someone refer me to a good tutorial to learn unix commands?
[22:07] <bieb> VCoolio: thanks... I wasnt even sure what that thing would be called
[22:07] <aboSamoor> how can I start notify-osd manually ?
[22:08] <Dark_Wolf> ndroftheline, the thing is, if I kill X, it doesn't drop to shell, it just shuts off the monitor.
[22:08] <hackel> Deevz, ls /usr/bin and man. :)
[22:08] <VCoolio> bieb: it's the fast user switch applet
[22:08] <ndroftheline> hey can somebody tell me how to enable additional filesystem types in mount?
[22:08] <hellhound> guntbert, yeah I made sure that all were owned by my user and I also tried "sudo apt-get update" "sudo apt-get upgrade" but no luck
[22:08] <bieb> VCoolio: thanks
[22:08] <Deevz> hackel: these are not exactly a tutorial :P
[22:08] <Tumie> hi, i accendently removed a startup application (system -> preferences -> startup applications), it was the first one .. can someone check the Name & Command for me ?
[22:09] <guntbert> bieb: see http://www.tipstrs.com/tip/10467/Skip-the-shutdown-delay-in-Ubuntu-Jaunty-Jackalope
[22:09] <bieb> Deevz: I dont know of a tutorial.. but man will tell you about each command... or stop by the bookstore and locate a book on linux commands I have one that gives the command and what it does in short form
[22:10] <bieb> guntbert: thanks
[22:10] <joeyeye> ndroftheline: try mounting again with hfs and part=n (n being the partition number) in the options - this skips parsing the partition table
[22:10] <guntbert> hellhound: did you check the "hidden" files too (especially .XAuthority) ?
[22:10] <ltcabral> my variable PAM_AUTHTOK is empty, i need it to create a kerberos principal... how can i set a PAM_AUTHTOK at login or anywhere else?
[22:10] <ndroftheline> joeyeye, coool so just mount /dev/sdb -t hfs part=5
[22:10] <hellhound> guntbert, yeppers :)
[22:11] <binarymutant> I have to click on the settings for every channel I'm in and click hide join/parting msgs but how can I just automatically do it?
[22:11] <joeyeye> ndroftheline: I think there's a -o needed for the option
[22:12] <Blehk> If I wanted cron to run on the first and 15th of the month, would it be: 0 0 1/15 * * user mycommand?
[22:12] <ndroftheline> joeyeye, unknown filesystem type hfs
[22:12] <ndroftheline> joeyeye, how do i install additional filesystem types?
[22:12] <prince_j1mmys> Deevz: linuxcommand.org is a popular tutorial.
[22:12] <antonio_> hi
[22:12] <joeyeye> ndroftheline: hfsplus ?
[22:12] <PeterFA> Does the Ubuntu 2.6.28 kernel have module tun builtin?
[22:12] <ndroftheline> ndroftheline, it says the same thing
[22:13] <joeyeye> ndroftheline: i think additional filesystems is a kernel thing
[22:13] <Deevz> prince_j1mmys, thank you, I stumbled upon it a few minutes ago already
[22:13] <hellhound> guntbert, ah hah fixed it... sudo -apt-get -f install, sudo apt-get --fix-missing install, sudo apt-get clean, sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade
[22:13] <ndroftheline> joeyeye, shiiiiiiit ok lemme reboot into the vanilla kernel. i'm using a hacked one. brb.
[22:13] <Gnea> PeterFA: it is a module, not builtin
[22:13] <PeterFA> Gnea, thank you.
[22:13] <antonio_> I have ubuntu 9.04, noticed that the memory (RAM) consumption is low, I have 1.5GB available but ubuntu just use he 25% of it
[22:14] <Gnea> PeterFA: meaning, it's not built into the kernel, but yes, it includes the tun.ko module
[22:14] <prince_j1mmys> Deevz: you can check that out for general commands. To learn the shell (bash), check out the tutorial in the topic of the irc channel #bash.
[22:14] <joeyeye> mount /dev/sdb -t hfsplus -o part=5 /media/somedir
[22:14] <Deevz> thx
[22:14] <bankix> Peter: And if you want to know if it's present in your kernel, search /lib/modules/$(uname -r) for "tun.ko"
[22:14] <antonio_> is it right? is there a way to force ubuntu to maximize the use of it?
[22:14] <danyocean> please i need help i have virtualbox with XP and i can't use my mic in xp
[22:14] <guntbert> hellhound: nice, though as to why??? - remember: use gksudo with graphical apps and sudo for console apps
[22:15] <FW> antonio_: Ubuntu CAN use all of it, it's just super efficient
[22:15] <FW> atonio_: it's well built, so programs use less RAM
[22:15] <bankix> antonio_: If ubuntu doesn't need your ram, where is the advantage to fill it with scrap?
[22:15] <hydrozen> what's a good ftp server on linux that doesnt require to create actual accounts on the box?
[22:16] <FW> hydrozen: have you looked at PureFTP?
[22:16] <antonio_> I guess that the more programs use ram the faster tun
[22:16] <antonio_> run
[22:16] <hellhound> guntbert,  thank you for the reminder!!!
[22:16] <david___> guys flash is not working for my computer i tried reinstalling it but videos still look messed up
[22:16] <guntbert> hellhound: :-)
[22:16] <hydrozen> FW: i just messed with VSftp for now... but doesnt seem to work for me
[22:16] <bankix> antonio_: That doesn't make sense...
[22:16] <antonio_> really??
[22:17] <FW> hydrozen: I'll double check, see if PureFTP is what you're after :)
[22:17] <antonio_> is it better using the disk then?
[22:17] <norman_> hola a todos
[22:17] <bankix> antonio_: If a program has "only" 150 MByte size, why should it fill more RAM?
[22:17] <Hilikus_> my ubuntu still thinks i'm using wubi instead of it's own partition so when i recreate the grub menu it messes everything up pointing to the wrong place and not booting at all. how do i fix this?
[22:17] <bankix> antonio_: No, it's not using the disk, it's just not huge.
[22:17] <Tumie> i accendently removed a startup application (system -> preferences -> startup applications), it was the first one .. can someone check the Name & Command for me ?
[22:17] <FW> hydrozen: Yeeessss, PureFTP does that :D
[22:17] <Fanatic> antonio_: if you have a bottle with the size of 1 l, but only 200ml of water - you will have 20% usage
[22:17] <david___> guys how should i fix flash
[22:18] <Fanatic> why should you fill the other 80% with crap
[22:18] <antonio_> no, but for example, firefox is using 350MB on win, while on ubuntu just 150M
[22:18] <mefistofelix> vsftpd rulez
[22:18] <Fanatic> so firefox on win fails
[22:18] <bankix> antonio_: Yes.
[22:18] <FW> tumie: sure
[22:18] <bankix> antonio_: And where is the problem?
[22:18] <QAH> Is there a way of installing Ubuntu Server 9.04 on a second hard drive partition using the guided install?
[22:18] <norman_> alguien sabe como puedo controlar el procesador : velocidad
[22:18] <Tumie> FW: ok,
[22:19] <bucky> Tumie: AT SPI Registry Wrapper ?
[22:19] <antonio_> the problem is that I'm just guessing if ubuntu free the allocation too early
[22:19] <FW> tumie: it's called AT-SPI Registry Wrapper for me
[22:19] <bankix> antonio_: It isn't.
[22:19] <jrib> QAH: aren't you able to choose whatever partition you want?
[22:19] <antonio_> just guessing, maybe it has low cache in RAM
[22:19] <Tumie> FW: and you have jaunty desktop ?
[22:19] <bucky> Tumie: point to /usr/lib/gnome-session/helpers/at-spi-registryd-wrapper
[22:19] <jrib> QAH: oh "guided" -- not sure
[22:19] <FW> tumie: Command is /usr/lib/gnome-session/helpers/at-spi-registryd-wrapper
[22:19] <QAH> jrib: On the guided, I can't seem to do that
[22:19] <FW> Tumie: But of course :D
[22:19] <mefistofelix> there is some sendmail compatible command that directly send to the specified (config) smtp server?
[22:19] <antonio_> because I'm not understanding why firefox is so slowly in ubunut
[22:19] <QAH> jrib: I can on the desktop edition, but not server
[22:20] <bankix> antonio: Why can't you believe programmes are smaller for ubuntu than for windows?
[22:20] <norman_> ubuntu.es ???
[22:20] <Tumie> ok, added it..
[22:20] <norman_> www.ubuntu.es
[22:20] <NoGe> haiyaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
[22:20] <Fanatic> antonio_: firefox never uses 'exactly' the same amount of ram, and on linux, there is also shared ram (used by shared libs and so on)
[22:20] <bucky> antonio_: get ipv6 support out of about:config  .. google for it
[22:20] <Tumie> FW: is it right that the second is Bluetooth Manager?
[22:21] <FW> Tumie: I'd tell you if i knew, i'm not sure - but it sounds about right
[22:21] <QAH> Anyway, what is the best way for a manual setup?
[22:21] <mefistofelix> Fanatic: also on windows there are shared libs in memory between processes
[22:21] <antonio_> I tried to configure it through about:config
[22:21] <Tumie> FW: can't you check it?
[22:21] <QAH> What options should I use for manual partitioning? I have never done ie
[22:21] <bankix> antonio_: What did you configure?
[22:21] <guntbert> antonio_: you will see, if you demand more of your system the RAM usage will go up :-), to me your question is a bit strange - most people are concerned that linux uses "nearly all" the RAM, but believe: memory management is fine in linux, no need to tweak anything there
[22:21] <antonio_> firefox, but it is slowly, and since I'm a programmer too, I would understnd
[22:22] <bucky> Question: Why did Ubuntu decide to build ipv6 support into the kernel instead of as a module  ..did their debian testing upstream decide to do this as well  ??
[22:22] <bankix> QAH: There should be no problem if you do the partitioning.
[22:22] <FW> tumie: No description, so i'm not sure.
[22:22] <hackel> antonio_, Firefox is not slow for the rest of us.  You have a unique issue not specifically related to Ubuntu.
[22:22] <QAH> bankix: I know, but I have never done manual partitioning. What are the recommended settings?
[22:22] <Tumie> FW: check the list with startup applications,, is the second named 'bluetooth manager' ?
[22:22] <Tourn> Hey, can i make an xubuntu Persistant linux USB without booting from the xubuntu liveCD?
[22:23] <bankix> QAH: If you're new to this, use one partition with >5GB.
[22:23] <bankix> QAH: And remember of a swap partition.
[22:23] <bankix> QAH: How much RAM do you have?
[22:23] <QAH> bankix: And make the main partition ext3?
[22:23] <QAH> bankix: 2GB
[22:23] <FW> tumie: yes :)
[22:23] <prince_jammys> antonio_: yep, my firefox is slow as hell too. i just don't use it.
[22:23] <bankix> QAH: Yes, use ext3. And 2 GB for swap as well.
[22:23] <Tumie> FW: thanks, you saved my day :)
[22:24] <FW> tumie: i'm new to helping out here, and i'm using irssi - forgive my slowness
[22:24] <bankix> QAH: (if you have that space left)
[22:24] <FW> tumie: glad to be of help, giving something back and all that
[22:24] <QAH> bankix: Ok thanks. Yeah, the second partition is 74GB in size
[22:24] <Tourn> Anyone? =]
[22:24] <bankix> QAH: Caution with the bootloader installation step!
[22:24] <antonio_> I did this observation, the start process (of any program) is really fast, more and more than win, so the operating sistem is capable to bring the application up in a short time, once the application is running, in my opinion there is some bottlenech
[22:24] <QAH> bankix: Thanks again
[22:24] <prince_jammys> antonio_: it runs faster in windows, strangely enough.
[22:24] <Tourn> Hey, can i make an xubuntu Persistant linux USB without booting from the xubuntu liveCD?
[22:24] <QAH> bankix: Yeah, I will install the bootloader on the same partition
[22:24] <Tumie> FW: nice to helped you with helping xD
[22:24] <bucky> antonio_: i use 3.0.13+nobinon... and it works ok for me
[22:24] <bankix> QAH: Let the bootloader install into the root partition of your new installed ubuntu.
[22:25] <grendal_prime> has anyone ever extracted the contents of a bkf file?
[22:25] <QAH> bankix: Ok Thanks
[22:25] <Guest78774> hay does anybody know about Ktorrent---because i am trying to downlound some tv/dvd bosset video's and thay are going vrry slow.and i leve in the u.s.a.
[22:25] <QAH> bankix: If I need more help, I will come back in here
[22:25] <Kottizen> xD
[22:25] <bankix> QAH: Then alter your old bootloader ("chainloader +1")
[22:25] <kad_> hey need help when i do sudo apt-get upgrade , it connect to 192.168.0.1:3128 ( which is my old proxy) i removed it from system/Preference/Proxy ! but still same !? iis there any config need to remove too? Thanks
[22:25] <Guest78774> can yall help me
[22:25] <guntbert> !tab > guntbert (testwise)
[22:25] <bankix> QAH: Good luck.
[22:25] <Hilikus_> my ubuntu still thinks i'm using wubi instead of it's own partition so when i recreate the grub menu it messes everything up pointing to the wrong place and not booting at all. how do i fix this?
[22:25] <antonio_> I have a low resource PC, and can observe that for example videos are not fluid in ubuntu, while on win running fine
[22:25] <Guest78774> \plese pm me if you know how to help me
[22:26] <FW> antonio_: Video is Ubuntu's sole drawback
[22:26] <FW> antonio_: very, very, very few peole have smooth video
[22:26] <guntbert> !pm | Guest78774
[22:26] <Dawgmatix> muhahaha i have smooth video
[22:26] <FW> :D
[22:26] <FW> Glad some of us do
[22:26] <bankix> antonio_:  Do you have an intel onboard graphics chip?
[22:26] <Dawgmatix> vlc + fglrx = no issues so far
[22:27] <antonio_> no, I have an ati
[22:27] <Guest78774> i need help on how to get my downlounds to go faster on Ktorrent
[22:27] <bankix> antonio_: And you did install the ATI drivers?
[22:27] <Bookman> I have two machines with ATI no video playback issues at all.  Very smooth.
[22:27] <antonio_> no, I have the open drivers
[22:27] <bankix> antonio_: Maybe this is the reason.
[22:27] <Dawgmatix> antonio - try the ati drivers
[22:27] <Dawgmatix> this aint your granpa's ati
[22:28] <Tourn> Hey, can i make an xubuntu Persistant linux USB without booting from the xubuntu liveCD?
[22:28] <antonio_> trust me, I tried the ati proprietary and have the same result
[22:28] <Dawgmatix> their drivers occasionally do something useful now
[22:28] <Dawgmatix> did you make sure that "fglrxinfo" was showing that the ati drivers were in use ?
[22:28] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[22:28] <atomic007za> if I have a 160 gig sata drive on a server and need to replace it with a 250, (the drive contains my swap parttion and dir, would ghosting work? or how could I do this?
[22:29] <Supersaiyan_IV> http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/supported_features.png
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> atomic007za: ghost would work, so would partimage
[22:29] <kad_> hey need help when i do sudo apt-get upgrade , it connect to 192.168.0.1:3128 ( which is my old proxy) i removed it from system/Preference/Proxy ! but still same !? iis there any config need to remove too? Thanks
[22:29] <bankix> atomic: What is installed on the disk?
[22:29] <BTK_Green_River> damn you all
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> kad_: ap-get has its own proxy sttings
[22:29] <atomic007za> ActionParsnip: thanks
[22:30] <bankix> atomic007za: Ubuntu I guess, but which version?
[22:30] <atomic007za> bankix: hardy
[22:30] <macgyver_> is there a repo to get wine-doors from?
[22:30] <atomic007za> bankix: hardy ubuntu
[22:30] <kad_> ActionParsnip, then when i do it give: Could not connect to 192.168.0.1:3128 (192.168.0.1). - connect (113 No route to host)
[22:30] <kad_> ActionParsnip,  how i can change this to default automatic?
[22:30] <Guest69921> I have ktorrent for a video downlound.and my boxset videos will not downlound faster
[22:30] <Ali_nz> anyone know how to 0 fill a drive in ubunutu?
[22:31] <bankix> atomic007za: Have a look in your /etc/fstab. Are the partitions referenced by "UUID="?
[22:31] <antonio_> I'm pretty sure that there is something strange in RAM handling, because the SO starts in very short time, and as told before applications are starting as well rapidly, so I would expect very high performance also when app runs
[22:31] <ActionParsnip> kad_: if the proxy setting is stll present for apt-get it will stil try to use it
[22:31] <ollie_> Hi, how do i temporarily turn off corkscrew?
[22:31] <atomic007za> bankix: will check
[22:31] <kad_> ActionParsnip,  not present
[22:31] <unop> Ali_nz, dd
[22:31] <kad_> ActionParsnip,  where i can check proxy settings for apt?
[22:31] <Ali_nz> unop: will it handle bad sectors ok?
[22:32] <ActionParsnip> kad_: anything in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/proxy
[22:32] <Cyber_Akuma> Is there anywhere I can get xubuntu cd covers?
[22:32] <Guestjond> i have sak this ?
[22:32] <guntbert> !piracy | Guest69921
[22:32] <ActionParsnip> ollie_: ps -ef | grep -i cork
[22:32] <unop> Ali_nz, not by default, it has an option to continue despite errors - see the dd manpage
[22:32] <Ali_nz> rgr
[22:32] <atomic007za> bankix: # /dev/sdb2
[22:32] <atomic007za> UUID=a269aae7-5c65-4f49-8976-4601534176d7 /home           ext3    relatime        0       2
[22:32] <ActionParsnip> ollie_: ill the proces of, then restart tit when you need it
[22:32] <Cyber_Akuma> really woud much rather not design my own, im not graphic artist
[22:32] <Cyber_Akuma> no*
[22:32] <bankix> antonio_: For the last time, the RAM handling under Linux is absolutely okay. We're experienced, trust us.
[22:32] <ollie_> Thanks :)
[22:32] <Cyber_Akuma> Google just gave me ubuntu and kubuntu cd covers
[22:33] <atomic007za> bankix: yes
[22:33] <Guestjond> will some one plese help me try to setup ktorrent so i can get my videos downlound'd faster plese
[22:33] <antonio_> ok, I can believe you, although have different result, but I can trust
[22:33] <kad_> ActionParsnip,  didn't find
[22:33] <bankix> atomic: Okay. Just to ensure: You want to copy everything from your 160GB disk to your new one, and keep the installation, right?
[22:33] <ActionParsnip> Cyber_Akuma: http://www.iso-top.info/out/oxbaseshop/html/0/dyn_images/1/xubuntu-11_p1.jpg
[22:33] <Guestjond> some one must know how
[22:34] <macgyver_> can someone assist with a location for wine-doors?
[22:34] <ActionParsnip> Cyber_Akuma: sms logical to m, simpl image search
[22:34] <ollie_> ActionParsnip: its restarting itself :S
[22:34] <Cyber_Akuma> ActionParsnip: huh?
[22:34] <BTK_Green_River> actionparsnip is a jagoff
[22:34] <ActionParsnip> Guestjond: thy will only come down as fast as users will upload t you
[22:34] <atomic007za> bankix: yes, it contains the swap space and home dir, but they are empty anyway
[22:34] <prince_jammys> antonio_: you don't have to trust. firefox is known to be a memory hog.
[22:34] <TheNano> Guestjond: Not in this channel ! ;-)
[22:34] <ActionParsnip> Cyber_Akuma: that is an Xubuntu CD cover
[22:35] <antonio_> is there any documentation where I can understand better the memory management on ubuntu?
[22:35] <bankix> atomic: So you want to modify the partitioning by the way?
[22:35] <Cyber_Akuma> I meant the second line
[22:35] <Hilikus_> my ubuntu still thinks i'm using wubi instead of it's own partition so when i recreate the grub menu it messes everything up pointing to the wrong place and not booting at all. how do i fix this?
[22:35] <Cyber_Akuma> And that is far too small...
[22:35] <Guestjond> so r u teling me that there is no way to get them to downlound any faster
[22:35] <atomic007za> bankix: no
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> Cyber_Akuma: sorry, dads acer pos
[22:35] <BTK_Green_River> actionparsnip, shut your mouth
[22:35] <macgyver_> ok, wierd, I cannot right click on my desktop, is there any reason for that?
[22:35] <Cyber_Akuma> I found a very nice xubuntu 8.10 cover, but I dont remember where
[22:36] <bankix> antonio_: There is nothing special about the memory management under ubuntu. It's just the same as everywhere, hence the kernel.
[22:36] <Cyber_Akuma> and I dont have it anymore
[22:36] <Cyber_Akuma> need a 9.04 cover
[22:36] <ActionParsnip> Cyber_Akuma: http://www.linuxisos.de/catalog/images/cd_label_xubuntu710l.jpg    300x300
[22:36] <atomic007za> bankix: just move it, if I can use the rest of the hdd as home dir then it would be greast though
[22:36] <bankix> atomic007za: Okay. You need a live CD or something (e.g. ubuntu cd in live mode)
[22:36] <guntbert> Guestjond: please stop asking for video downloads
[22:36] <Cyber_Akuma> thats 7.10 .....
[22:36] <ActionParsnip> Cyber_Akuma: why not ust write on it with a sot pn, its just gonna sit in a drawer afer install
[22:36] <atomic007za> bankix: ok
[22:37] <ActionParsnip> soft pen*
[22:37] <bankix> atomic007za: Then partition the harddisk as you like. Try to keep the partition numbering, but it's not essential
[22:37] <kad_> ActionParsnip, didn't find proxy there! where i can find it?
[22:37] <bankix> atomic007za: You can change the size of the partitions however you want.
[22:37] <Zobin> Hello people. I have a real easy question about installin .run files
[22:37] <antonio_> I think firefox is a very good case study, and if someone of you wants to check, then try to run firefox under wine, will see that it is faster that ubuntu native app
[22:37] <ActionParsnip> Cyber_Akuma: http://ubuntuway.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/etiquetacd_xubuntu_sunset.png
[22:37] <jcloud> is there a way to use vlc to play embedded videos rather than adobe's player?
[22:38] <bankix> antonio: [ ] great idea...
[22:38] <ActionParsnip> antonio_: ump of the firefox bandwagon, there are less resource hungy browsers but everyone is firefox brainwashed
[22:38] <Cyber_Akuma> I like firefox because of its plugin ability
[22:38] <atomic007za> bankix: partition numbering?
[22:38] <Cyber_Akuma> even though opera and even ie6 outperforms it on my desktop
[22:39] <bankix> atomic007za: The important part is the formatting. Look at the /etc/fstab of your system again. You'll have to set the same UUIDs for the partitions as mentioned in this file.
[22:39] <ActionParsnip> Cyber_Akuma: you can use firepup or swiftfox which will run with much less resource use
[22:39] <BTK_Green_River> How do I get back into ##mac?
[22:39] <antonio_> I'm not interested in firefox itself, I'm interested in ubuntu
[22:39] <bucky> firefox --version   3.0.13  works great
[22:39] <Zobin> Can someone help me with the installation of a .run-file? I'm trying to install the ATI Catalyst
[22:39] <guntbert> !ot | antonio_
[22:39] <mefistofelix> why not 3.5?
[22:39] <ActionParsnip> bucky: run top while it runs, look at how resource hungry it is
[22:39] <bankix> atomic007za: Partition numbering: If /dev/sda1 is the swap partition on your old disk, use /dev/sdb1 for your new swap partition.
[22:39] <kad_> ActionParsnip,  using Synaptic Package manager, there is also no proxy! then why it give me like that?
[22:40] <atomic007za> ok IC thanks
[22:40] <l3dx> jcloud: I don't know, but there _could_ be a grease monkey script for it
[22:40] <bankix> atomic007za: When using "mkswap" to format your swap partition, give it the option "-U " followed by the UUID listed in your old /etc/fstab.
[22:40] <ActionParsnip> Cyber_Akuma: is the image i gave ok for your cds?
[22:40] <Cyber_Akuma> Its a scan :(
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> Cyber_Akuma: yeah....?
[22:41] <bankix> atomic007za: It's the same with mke2fs for formatting the root and home partition: Use "-U " followed by the UUID listed in the /etc/fstab for that partition.
[22:41] <atomic007za> bankix: do I do this when booting in the live cd
[22:41] <Ali_nz> unop: to make it real good I am using /dev/random !!
[22:41] <Cyber_Akuma> Do you have a source image, not a scan of a cd?
[22:41] <Zobin> Which catalyst driver should I use for Ubuntu 8.04? Which is the best?
[22:42] <bankix> bankix: You do this with any live linux you like, preferably use a ubuntu CD.
[22:42] <bucky> ActionParsnip: it's using 132M memory and 0.3% of my cpu
[22:42] <bankix> atomic007za: You do this with any live linux you like, preferably use a ubuntu CD.
[22:42] <bucky> ActionParsnip: and it's been running and caching all day
[22:42] <ActionParsnip> bucky: 132mb just for a browser. bit excessie dont you think
[22:42] <bankix> atomic007za: (some older live CDs won't understand -U for some commands)
[22:42] <bucky> i'll flush it
[22:42] <atomic007za> bankic: will do, and thanks again
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> Cyber_Akuma: i'm using image searches in various search engins
[22:43] <macgyver_> if I run "nautilus &" in the terminal I get all my right click back, how can I make this work on reboot without running that command and keeping a term open?
[22:43] <bankix> atomic007za: After formatting the partitions, mount them, and copy all files from the old partitions to the new one.
[22:43] <icarus> every time i attempt to conect to a server in tf2 it will display the message "can not conect toserver" what am i doing wrong
[22:43] <Zobin> ﻿Which catalyst driver should I use for Ubuntu 8.04? Which is the best?
[22:43] <bankix> atomic007za: Last step is to setup grub. "grubinstall" should do.
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> kad_: gksudo gedit /etc/pt/apt.conf.d/70debconf  may show something (source: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=67958)
[22:43] <boss_mc> ActionParsnip: is 3.5 supposed to be less resource hungry?
[22:44] <Sahdos> !catalyst
[22:44] <Zobin> !catalyst
[22:44] <bucky> ActionParsnip: 40M after a restart
[22:44] <bankix> atomic007za: Then power off, disconnect the old drive and boot the new one. Should work without any other modifications.
[22:44] <macgyver_> Sahdos, I use catalyst on my toshiba P200
[22:44] <atomic007za> bankic:and again, this is all done in live cd?
[22:44] <ActionParsnip> boss_mc: not sure, i dont use it due to its poor ue of resources
[22:45] <ActionParsnip> s/ue/use
[22:45] <Sahdos> macgyver_:  what is catalyst?
[22:45] <mizipzor> apt-get doesnt find package emesene (want a msn client) what could be the cause of that? all other software so far has been installed without problems
[22:45] <ActionParsnip> Sahdos: its the ati driver
[22:45] <boss_mc> ActionParsnip: hmmm, I think that's one of they're targets for this milestone
[22:45] <macgyver_> Sahdos, isnt it what you wanted to know what to insta;;?
[22:45] <icarus> is there a intel driver?
[22:45] <Sahdos> ActionParsnip: I see
[22:45] <boss_mc> Sahdos: use fglrx for an ati card
[22:45] <bankix> atomic007za: Yes all steps in the live linux. Not under your normal running linux system. Because of still open files.
[22:45] <ActionParsnip> icarus: sure
[22:45] <Sahdos> macgyver_:  I just wanted to know what it was.
[22:45] <icarus> care to tell
[22:46] <boss_mc> ActionParsnip: mod grammar...
[22:46] <ActionParsnip> !find emesen
[22:46] <Sahdos> macgyver_:  someone else was talking about catalyst
[22:46] <ActionParsnip> !info emesene
[22:46] <kad_> ActionParsnip,  ok but my connection doesn't require proxy and in this file got DPkg::Pre-Install-Pkgs {"/usr/sbin/dpkg-preconfigure --apt || true";}; only? what should i use ? export http_proxy only ?
[22:46] <bucky> ActionParsnip: 40M isnt' too bad is it?
[22:46] <ActionParsnip> kad_: sounds logical
[22:46] <Sahdos> macgyver_:  zobin asked
[22:46] <Nathan> oi
[22:47] <Guest97678> ata
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> bucky: try Kazehakase ;)
[22:47] <Guest97678> nada
[22:47] <icarus> why can i not connect to servers in team fortress 2
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> mizipzor: mke sure you have universe repos enbled in synaptic
[22:48] <kingmanor> i have a process running im not sure what its doing
[22:48] <mizipzor> ActionParsnip: yea, added them... works fine now :) strange that they were disabled latest update and werent reenabled afterwards
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> kingmanor: webseach the procss nme
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> mizipzor: np, glad you got the gold
[22:49] <kad_> ActionParsnip,  i used http_proxy= and worked ! one more thing why my clock on ubuntu is differ from windows i set ubuntu clock : 12:45 on windows will be 3:45 and if i set windows, ubuntu's clock will change why ? Thanks
[22:49] <kingmanor> i mean its dd but im not sure what its copying
[22:49] <kingmanor> "/bin/dd bs 1 if /proc/kmsg of /var/run/klogd/kmsg"
[22:50] <ActionParsnip> kad_: check timezone and/or change the time mnually
[22:50] <kad_> ActionParsnip, i'm changing it manually
[22:50] <ActionParsnip> kingmanor: find out wht /proc/kmsg is
[22:50] <icarus> how do i get tf2 to connect to servers
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> icarus: can you ping their ips and names?
[22:51] <kad_> ActionParsnip,  i use this : hwclock --systohc ( after this execute, the problem come!
[22:51] <icarus> no  all it will say is cannot connect to server
[22:51] <jrib> icarus: firewall issue probably
[22:52] <bucky> ActionParsnip: i got the crashies with the kazehakase-webkit backend so far
[22:52] <ActionParsnip> icarus: intall traceroute and then run: traceroute <ip address here>
[22:52] <ActionParsnip> bucky: works great here, its the defalt in fluxbuntu which i made to be small and punchy, midori is pretty nice too
[22:53] <icarus> care to tell me why before i start installing random programs
[22:53] <ActionParsnip> bucky: it may hav isues as you have a ~/.mozilla folder and kazenhakase uses gecko like firefox
[22:53] <Sahdos> icarus:  traceroute is a program like ping, it will trace the hops from one node to another across tcp/ip
[22:53] <ActionParsnip> icarus: its like tracert in windows, you can see were the connection gets stopped
[22:54] <Sahdos> icarus:  It is a network troubleshooting tool
[22:54] <bucky> ActionParsnip: yeah it's looking for gecko
[22:54] <ActionParsnip> icarus: and it will also show if the connection even leaves your pc or home lan
[22:54] <icarus> ok then
[22:54] <ActionParsnip> icarus: you need to investigate some to find out where the connection gets stopped
[22:54] <ActionParsnip> icarus: you could even find the ap to see what it does yourself
[22:55] <Hilikus> n
[22:55] <ollie_> How do I ssh to a computer on the lan when corkscrew is running?
[22:55] <ActionParsnip> !info corkscrew
[22:56] <inx-live> styol: hi!
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> ollie_: you could open a ort on your router and access it from wan from your proxy
[22:56] <Hilikus_> is there a way to decrease the shutdown timer you get when you exit ubuntu?
[22:56]  * bucky sad boy
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> s/ort/port
[22:57] <Sahdos> Hilikus:  there's a shutdown timer?
[22:57] <Zobin> Hey, I need some help please. I'm trying to install the catalyst driver on Ubuntu
[22:57] <Hilikus> Sahdos: yes
[22:57] <ActionParsnip> !ati > Zobin
[22:57] <Sahdos> Hilikus:  brb
[22:57] <Hilikus> Sahdos: when you shutdown it doesnt shutdown immediatly
[22:57] <brotkasten> hey, is there a clean way (except from reinstalling ^^) to switch from kubuntu to ubuntu? is there a difference appart from the window manager?
[22:57] <Sahdos> Hilikus:  I haven't shutdown in a loooong time
[22:57] <Sahdos> Hilikus:  I usually suspend/hibernate
[22:57] <ActionParsnip> brotkasten: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[22:58] <ActionParsnip> Sahdos: i just turn off my monitor :D
[22:58] <brotkasten> ActionParsnip: thanks ... and the other way around?
[22:58] <ActionParsnip> brotkasten: how do you mean?
[22:58] <Guest23181> sds
[22:58] <brotkasten> ActionParsnip: apt-get install ubutu-desktop
[22:58] <Sahdos> ActionParsnip:  I try to conserve power, are you running anything that has to be on?
[22:58] <ActionParsnip> brotkasten: you already have that
[22:58] <brotkasten> ActionParsnip: i want to switch to gnome
[22:58] <thomg> dooooit
[22:59] <ActionParsnip> Sahdos: my systms re ll low power using so i lea them on, i run folding at home
[22:59] <thomg> I like GNOME a lot
[22:59] <brotkasten> :)
[22:59] <ActionParsnip> brotkasten: ust log off, change session to gnom, log back in
[22:59] <LordMetroid> Is there any ATI driver that supports OpenGL 3.x?
[22:59] <Sahdos> Hilikus:  have you found anything on the web?  perhaps a config file, or something in gconf-editor
[22:59] <icarus> i have installed trace route now what do i do
[22:59] <ActionParsnip> Sahdos: i also run a fileserver that runs a backup every 6 hours to a firewire drive
[22:59] <Sahdos> Hilikus:  you could try searching ubuntu gconf-editor shutdown timeout
[22:59] <ActionParsnip> icarus: traceroute <ip here>
[23:00] <ActionParsnip> icarus: e.g.   traceroute 1.1.1.1
[23:00] <Sahdos> ActionParsnip:  I have a server, but I haven't set it up yet.  Moving soon.
[23:00] <Zobin> ubottu: I have the driver. I'm just failing at the installation part
[23:00] <Zobin> That's what I need help with
[23:00] <kad_> hey, sorry my Webcam driver not in kernel model ! where i can install new kernel maybe the driver of my webcam in new module since mine is : 2.6.28-11-generic  ? Thanks
[23:00] <Sahdos> Zobin:  ubottu is a program
[23:00] <Brazz> Zobin: what driver?
[23:00] <ActionParsnip> Sahdos: same here, mines nice and set though. thinkng of reiring one system and making my server into a router, save power
[23:01] <Sahdos> ActionParsnip:  interesting idea
[23:01] <freemen> ello
[23:01] <freemen> hello
[23:01] <brotkasten> ActionParsnip: i installed from a kubuntu live CD so i have KDE installed ... now i want to switch to gnome (i don't think it's installed ... i'll check that in a minute) I want to cleanly remove all the kde packages ... so my system has no garbage that i dont need .. this was my primary concern
[23:01] <Keiffer> Hi. I've set up a SSH server with RSA keys. I connect to server localy "ssh me@computer". It shows the banner, asks for private key pass. And then... Conection closed by UNKNOWN
[23:01] <Zobin> Brazz: Catalyst 9.2. I 'm not used to the terminal so I juswt keep getting "sh can't open.." message in Terminal
[23:01] <Hilikus> is there a way to decrease the shutdown timer you get when you exit ubuntu?
[23:01] <freemen> i need for linux Hotspot Shield
[23:01] <bankix> kad: you can compile the kernel yourself if you like.
[23:01] <Sahdos> ActionParsnip:  the idea of configuring a computer to work for me has its appeal, but I don't know what instructions to give it.  I'm going to post a website up, just so people can download my writing
[23:01] <icarus> ActionParsnip, ok i need to log out of xchat so i can get the ip thank you for your help and i will be back shortely
[23:01] <ActionParsnip> Sahdos: I use zobu boxes and eee pc type systems maily. i also hae ancient systems that i use as desktops
[23:01] <Sahdos> Hilikus:  did you try the search I recommended?
[23:01] <djcrx> hey all, anyone know how to show CPU, RAM Etc.. like widgets on the desktop? gdesklets wont work
[23:01] <freemen> ples ples
[23:02] <ActionParsnip> Sahdos: nice, share the love
[23:02] <Brazz> Zobin: maybe you wanna check https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver, it might help
[23:02] <sysdoc> Does anyone know if there has been any progress on the launchers loading to the display:0.0 when started from Display:0.1 in separate X sessions?
[23:02] <Hilikus> Sahdos: yes, i've been trying to solve this for 2 months now, i did everything there is to do, so i need an answer from someone who actually knows how to do it or someone who knows it just cannot be done
[23:02] <ActionParsnip> djcrx: free -m; cat /proc/cpuinfo
[23:02] <Sahdos> Hilikus:  understood
[23:02] <Zobin> Brazz: I've checked that. I have the driver, I just need to install it through the termilan
[23:02] <Zobin> Terminal
[23:02] <Hilikus> Sahdos: thanks though
[23:02] <ActionParsnip> djcrx: free -m sos the output in Mb
[23:03] <Zobin> Brazz: My real problem is installing the .run file
[23:03] <ActionParsnip> djcrx: you could also look into conky
[23:03] <Sahdos> ActionParsnip:  what's a zobu?
[23:03] <th0r> Hilikus: you can create a shortcut that runs 'shutdown -h now' to shutdown immediately, or replace now with a time
[23:03] <ActionParsnip> Zobin: chmod +x <flename>
[23:03] <SealV> does conky work on kde?
[23:03] <djcrx> cool beans,,,, thanks\
[23:03] <SealV> It should right?
[23:04] <djcrx> conky looks great thats whats i was looking for
[23:04] <Keiffer> Hi. I've set up a SSH server with RSA keys. I connect to server localy "ssh me@computer". It shows the banner, asks for private key pass. And then... Conection closed by UNKNOWN
[23:04] <Zobin> ActionParsnip: It says that it cannot access the file
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> Sahdos: low form, low power system: http://cache.gizmodo.com/assets/resources/2007/05/zonbutop2.jpg
[23:04] <Hilikus> i thought of that, but that's not really the issue. i want to know if it's possible to decrease that number. i like the idea of not having it immediatly but i think 60seconds is just stupid
[23:04] <Hilikus> th0r:
[23:05] <Hilikus> and using a script would not allow for the "normal" GUI shutdown
[23:05] <Sahdos> ActionParsnip:  I didn't know Optimus was low form, low power :)
[23:05] <ActionParsnip> Zobin: your wd needs to be the sam as the fle, you alo need to replace <filename> with te actual filename
[23:05] <nanotube> Hilikus: did you try this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=7008640&postcount=6
[23:05] <ActionParsnip> Sahdos: i'm looking to trat myself to a fitpc soon :)
[23:05] <Zobin> ActionParsnip: yeah I did all of that
[23:06] <Delvien> Anyone else have a ironkey?
[23:06] <nanotube> Hilikus: that won't "decrease" it, but it will eliminate it.
[23:06] <bankix> zobin: Which user are you ("id") and what does "ls -l filename" say?
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> Zobin: if you get no output then the fil will be marked as executable
[23:06] <Hilikus> nanotube: yes, i did, but yes, i want to decrease it to 5 seconds, not 60
[23:06] <Hilikus> or disable it
[23:07] <macgyver_> can someone assist with my right click and desktop icons issue, I hyave no right click and cannot drag any icons to the desktop
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> Zobin: you need to ha the direcory you are working in, in the terminal the same as the containing folder of the file
[23:07] <nanotube> Hilikus: that post tells you how to disable it.
[23:07] <nanotube> Hilikus: or did you mean by "or disable it" that you /dont/ want to disable?
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> Zobin: e.g.   if the file is on the desktop you ill need to type:   cd ~/Desktop
[23:07] <Hilikus> nanotube: i meant, i don't want to have it the default value nor disable it
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> Zobin: then chmod +x the file
[23:08] <djcrx> sorry do you know how to get conky? the webpage is tar ball, thats above my head and i cant see it in the add/remove software
[23:08] <Zobin> ActionParsnip: Yeah, I am in the same folder as well
[23:08] <nanotube> Hilikus: ah heh ic. ... hmm, well... might have to dig into the code for that. or look around in gconf editor?
[23:08] <th0r> djcrx: it is in the repos
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> Zobin: dont forget linux i case sensitie, use tab to complete the filename
[23:08] <maynards-girl> what can i use to make a short movie out of picture? I have a bunch of jpg's
[23:08] <th0r> djcrx: have you looked at gkrellm also?
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> djcrx: sudo apt-get install conky
[23:09] <Zobin> what does the "-x" stand for? I just type it like that?
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> djcrx: its rare in ubuntu to actually download apps from sits
[23:09] <Sahdos> macgyver_: i can try
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> Zobin: it means make it executable, its an option of chmod
[23:09] <macgyver_> Sahdos, much appreciated
[23:09] <kad_> is this the link : http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/  ( where i can download new kernel from) ? thanks
[23:09] <djcrx> says couldnt find package conky
[23:10] <macgyver_> Sahdos, when I run "nautilus &" in a term I have the fuctionality back
[23:10] <Zobin> I don't need to type "sudo chmod" just "chmod" right?
[23:10] <macgyver_> Sahdos, but if I close the term or reboot its gone
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> Zobin: chmod +x ATi....  whtever the filenmae is. I dont know te exact name of the file so you ill have to be the smart one here
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> Zobin: no, its your file so you do not need sudo
[23:10] <macgyver_> Zobin, --> sh ati.file here.bin
[23:11] <Sahdos> macgyver_:  it's an intermittent issue then?
[23:11] <bankix> kad: Yes, this is a source of the kernel. There are many mirrors, though.
[23:11] <Zobin> If i type "dir" should I see the file if it is in the same folder?
[23:11] <macgyver_> Sahdos, no not intermittent, the fucntion is gone, until I invoke it with that command in terminal
[23:11] <djcrx> BRB
[23:11] <Sahdos> macgyver_:  during your x/gnome session all of a sudden your right click stops working?  Or does their seem to be rhyme or reason to it?
[23:11] <hvgotcodes> if i install aurora gtk engine will the default gtk engine still work?
[23:12] <kad_> bankix,  thanks how i can use the patch? if i download i use patch -p1 ? this correct command ? thanks
[23:12] <macgyver_> Sahdos, it just isnt there, until I run that command
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> If i configure an ubntu system as a wireless router, will the web still be aessible to the local system or do i need to make a subinterface for local eb access?
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> Zobin: yes
[23:12] <Zobin> ok, it is not there so that is the problem. Even though I have put the file on the desktop
[23:12] <bankix> kad: Most patches are applyed with "patch -p1 < patchfile" or "zcat patchfile.gz | patch -p1"
[23:13] <hvgotcodes> if i install aurora gtk engine will the default gtk engine still work?
[23:13] <Zobin> how do I browse to another folder in Terminal?
[23:13] <ActionParsnip> Zobin: if you dnload stuffto the root of home instead of the desktop, your system will look neater and you will know exactly whee stff is
[23:13] <bankix> kad: But there could be other patches, maybe the creator of the pach did notice something?
[23:14] <Zobin> thanks dudes
[23:14] <kad_> bankix,  aha ok thx : 2.6.28-11 ( the 11 is the patch number right?)
[23:14] <Sahdos> macgyver_: swiss army knife?
[23:14] <ActionParsnip> Zobin: open nautilus and drag the file off the desktop to the nautilus window. The default location for nautilus to start is ~/ so is easy to locate
[23:14] <bankix> kad: And you'll have normally to sit in the kernel directory (/usr/src/linux/2.6.28 or whatever version) to apply the patch.
[23:14] <bankix> kad: -11 is the patch_level_ this means this is the 11th modified version of kernel 2.6.28.
[23:14] <macgyver_> Sahdos, ?
[23:15] <macgyver_> Sahdos, what does netcat have to do with this :P
[23:15] <kad_> bankix, okie thx now i'm downloading 2.6.30 kernel hope i can find in it , the webcam driver :(
[23:15] <Sahdos> macgyver_: it was a joke.  netcat?
[23:15] <bankix> kad: Good luck.
[23:15] <kad_> bankix,  thx :)
[23:16] <Sahdos> man netcat
[23:16] <Sahdos> hahaha
[23:16] <bankix> kad: Remember to copy the old kernel config to the new one.
[23:16] <macgyver_> Sahdos, netcat, the swiss army knife for networks :)
[23:16] <FastZ> anyone know why my linux box cannot connect to another linux box that's configured as a router/firewall?  when I connect the two, neither NICs link lights come on, but when i connect any other computer or router to these same NICs, they work like a charm.  Any ideas why they might not be playing nicely with one another?
[23:17] <Sahdos> macgyver_:  man netcat, man page for netcat
[23:17] <bankix> Sahdos: Very powerful too, I did write an FTP client with bash using netcat.
[23:17] <ActionParsnip> FastZ: are you using a crosover cable?
[23:17] <Sahdos> macgyver_:  do you seriously have no right click or icons?
[23:17] <kad_> bankix, what do u mean ? i though i can do ! make config then make dep then make bzImage then make modules then make modules_instal make clean ? or how ?
[23:17] <bankix> kad: No, you can't.
[23:17] <kad_> bankix,  then how ?
[23:17] <Sahdos> bankix: can you stab someone with it?
[23:17] <macgyver_> Sahdos, yes mate, I am not making it up
[23:17] <ActionParsnip> FastZ: For computer to computer communicaion you need a dfferent cable to on that conects a computer to a router
[23:17] <bankix> kad: This would produce a kernel with the defaults of the kernel developers, not with the ubuntu defaults.
[23:18] <FastZ> ActionParsnip, I don't need a cross-over cable.  one of the boxes is a router/firewall
[23:18] <bankix> Sahdos: stab someone? Sorry, did not understand that.
[23:18] <GibGob> Hey. I'm trying to burn an audio CD with k3b, which I'm using over brasero because brasero wouldn't 'normalise' - but I continually get an error that says 'Cdrecord has no permission to open the device'. I'm on 9.04, here's a pastebin of the debugging output:  http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m78f018a7
[23:18] <kad_> bankix, aha mean i should read the readme ?
[23:18] <Sahdos> bankix:  sorry, "swiss army knife of tcp/ip"
[23:18] <bankix> kad: No.
[23:19] <Sahdos> why would someone not have right click capability?  system -> preferences -> mouse?
[23:19] <Strider22> fastz: straight cables go from router to computer. Crossover cables from computer to computer or from router to router.
[23:19] <bankix> Sahdos: Ah, got it. No, but it could be killing as well... just show the bash-ftp-clients source to someone, you could be offended murderer ;-)
[23:19] <ActionParsnip> FastZ: i bet if you try a crosover cable it will work
[23:19] <bankix> kad: Have a look in /boot.
[23:19] <kad_> bankix, ok
[23:19] <FastZ> ActionParsnip, im trying to connect one maching to the green interface of the router/firewall box, but when i do this, neither NIC shows the connection as being valid, yet when i connect another computer to the same green interface, it works perfectly and likewise, when i connect the PC to my wireless router via cable, the NIC works perfectly
[23:19] <bankix> kad: THere you'll find the config of the ubuntu kernel.
[23:19] <Sahdos> bankix:  <elephantman> I am not a murderer! </elephantman>
[23:20] <Sahdos> bankix:  I'll have to read the man page in its entirety, I am still contemplating macgyver_'s issue
[23:20] <FastZ> Strider22, exactly, that's why i don't need a x-over cable like ActionParsnip is recommending
[23:20] <Sahdos> problem
[23:20] <bankix> kad: Copy this to the new kernel directory, then "make menuconfig" and load an alternate config file.
[23:20] <GibGob> mmmmmmm burning disks sux when it fails...
[23:20] <bankix> kad: When prompted for the filename, enter the name of the old config.
[23:20] <bankix> kad: then save alternate config file and name it ".config".
[23:20] <Sahdos> what is the nettiquette for pms?
[23:21] <ActionParsnip> FastZ: is the interface up?
[23:21] <Strider22> Fastz: The nic in a computer configured as a router doesn't change the hardware. The nic is still a computer nic. you need a crossover because it is really computer nic to computer nic.
[23:21] <FastZ> ActionParsnip, both ints are up, all TCP/IP information is correct on both
[23:21] <kad_> bankix, i copy the config-2.6.28-13-generic to new kernel directory ? right?
[23:21] <bankix> kad: This way, you'll keep all settings still applicable to the new kernel and get the default settings for the new features/options.
[23:21] <bankix> kad: Exactly.
[23:21] <brotkasten> FastZ: sounds like a driver problem
[23:22] <FastZ> brotkasten, why would it be a driver problem if the NICs work perfectly as long as they are not connected to one another?
[23:22] <FastZ> let me build a x-over cable and try it
[23:22] <brotkasten> FastZ: because not event the NIC light comes on
[23:22] <ActionParsnip> FastZ: what if you connectthe nic to another device or even a different port on the same interconnection device
[23:22] <kad_> bankix,  thx alot :)
[23:22] <Sahdos> maybe macgyver_ meant right click menu...
[23:23] <FastZ> brotkasten, the link lights come on if i connect any other device to them
[23:23] <brotkasten> FastZ: ok .. then it's probably not
[23:23] <brotkasten> FastZ: but the cable is ok?
[23:23] <FastZ> ActionParsnip, lemme build a x-over right quick and test that, if it works, the i owe you an apology
[23:23] <FastZ> brotkasten, yes
[23:23] <FastZ> brbguys
[23:23] <Strider22> Fastz: you could use a switch to make the crossover. If you can configure the router as a switch it will act like a crossover cable for testing.
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> FastZ: no need for apology dude, just want to get you on your feet :)
[23:24] <donnybrasco> can anyone help with routing my audio to bluetooth headset?
[23:24] <GibGob> I'm trying to burn an audio CD with k3b, which I'm using over brasero because brasero wouldn't 'normalise' - but I continually get an error that says 'Cdrecord has no permission to open the device'. I'm on 9.04, here's a pastebin of the debugging output:  http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m78f018a7 - I have checks groups, and I am in in cdrom, :< halp plz
[23:24] <macgyver_> Sahdos, yes, that is exactly it
[23:24] <donnybrasco> trying to use pulseaudio
[23:24] <macgyver_> and I cannot drag icons to the desktop
[23:25] <Sahdos> macgyver_:  I have no idea, but I'm learning about it.  Have you posted anything on the forum that I could read?
[23:25] <ActionParsnip> donnybrasco: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothAudio
[23:25] <kad_> bankix, sorry , i also need to add the path of the new kernel  on the grub configuration right ?
[23:25] <meditatingfrog> macgyver_:  sahdos is now known as meditatingfrog, I should use my ubuntuforums.org account
[23:25] <proq> is there a tool or flavor of ubuntu which can autopartition a machine or autopartition from a config file and then install ubuntu?
[23:25] <meditatingfrog> er name
[23:26] <Dr_Willis> proq:  the alternative installer cd - has some OEM feature. but ive never used it befor.
[23:26] <djcrx> BACK.. Sorry so when i type sudo apt-get install conky.. and it says couldn't find package conky.. what do i have to do? add a repo?
[23:26] <bankix> kad: You have to compile the kernel, then copy the image to /boot, copy the System.map as well, you should also copy the .config file to /boot and give it the appropriate name, and then you're ready to add a new section to your menu.lst
[23:26] <donnybrasco> ActionParsnip: thanks
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> !info conky
[23:26] <Dr_Willis> proq:  the installer also has a 'auto partition using the whole disk' option.
[23:26] <th0r> djcrx: open synaptic and make sure all the repos are enabled
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> djcrx: universe repo needs nabling
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> th0r: not all, experimentl ones arent advised
[23:27] <djcrx> thanks
[23:27] <th0r> ActionParsnip: you have to maintain a certain level of adventure <smile>
[23:28] <ActionParsnip> th0r: on your own systm, yes. on other users, no
[23:28] <kad_> bankix, okie thx
[23:28] <th0r> ActionParsnip: there is no experimental in synaptic
[23:29] <ActionParsnip> th0r: proposed then
[23:29] <djcrx> installed.. where would it have been installed to? its not in the application drop down
[23:29] <BellinXFelon> how do i delete something without having to go through the trash
[23:29] <th0r> ActionParsnip: I believe proposed are considered stable and are just prerelease
[23:29] <brotkasten> BellinXFelon: shift+delete
[23:29] <iceroot> BellinXFelon: rm
[23:30] <brotkasten> BellinXFelon: or rm :)
[23:30] <ActionParsnip> th0r: if they were deemed stable, they would be in the proper repos
[23:30] <scunizi> Firefox is currently set to UTF-8 for character encoding but switches back to Chinese Tradidional (Big5) as its default.  How do I make utf-8 stick as the default?
[23:31]  * meditatingfrog is no macgyver
[23:31] <spacebison> scunizi: do you have auto detect on?
[23:31] <GibGob> I'm trying to burn an audio CD with k3b, which I'm using over brasero because brasero wouldn't 'normalise' - but I continually get an error that says 'Cdrecord has no permission to open the device'. I'm on 9.04, here's a pastebin of the debugging output:  http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m78f018a7 - I have checks groups, and I am in in cdrom....I'd heavily appreciate assistance.
[23:31] <scunizi> spacebison: where do I look for that option? under View/Character encoding?
[23:32] <spacebison> yup
[23:32] <scunizi> spacebison: nope.. it's off
[23:32] <Dr_Willis> There are some options somewhere to add a 'delete bypassing the trash' menu item also
[23:32] <b3rz3rk3r> anyone familiar with POL (Play on Linux) ?
[23:32] <Dr_Willis> GibGob:  you may wan to check #kubuntu also and the Forums. I recall otehrs having issues like that in the past.. but i dont recall the fix.
[23:32] <MyNameIsLuca> b3rz3rk3r: My name is Luca, i live on the second floor
[23:33] <Dr_Willis> GibGob:  there is a k3b 'configs' in the k3b menus that may check/fix things for you also.
[23:33] <MyNameIsLuca> b3rz3rk3r: Have you ever seen me before ?
[23:33] <b3rz3rk3r> MyNameIsLuca, the second floor of what?
[23:33] <spacebison> scunizi: wierd, i'm not sure then
[23:33] <MyNameIsLuca> b3rz3rk3r: Just dont argue anymore
[23:34] <scunizi> spacebison: Thanks.. I'll ask in #firefox
[23:34] <b3rz3rk3r> MyNameIsLuca, mkay.. wtf?
[23:34] <bankix> GibGob: Hm.
[23:34] <scunizi> not exactly smoking busy in #ff
[23:34] <MyNameIsLuca> b3rz3rk3r: Hi, My name is Luca, i live on the second floor :P
[23:34] <MyNameIsLuca> Jokin
[23:34] <bankix> GibGob: Seems to be a hardware problem: Sense Key: 0x4 Hardware Error, Segment 0
[23:34] <bankix> Sense Code: 0x08 Qual 0x03 (logical unit communication crc error (ultra-dma/32)) Fru 0x0
[23:35] <bankix> GibGob: What kind of drive is it? Normal ATA (PATA) oder SATA?
[23:35] <b3rz3rk3r> MyNameIsLuca, are you /b/ or something?
[23:35] <proq> POL? is that a play or words?
[23:35] <MyNameIsLuca> b3rz3rk3r: Im Uberlord ultra
[23:35] <proq> *on
[23:36] <b3rz3rk3r> proq, its like cedega and transgaming.. just wondering what ppl thought of it.. compared to those too
[23:36] <Zorael> I imagine xinput helpers (scim and scim-panel-gtk, for instance) get loaded before the actual environment does? I'm having some issues with scim-panel-gtk being started before ~/.gtkrc-2.0-kde4 is read and ending up looking seriously ugly
[23:37] <RProgrammer> Google doesn't help on this one: How can I get my Apple Mac's serial number (which is running ubuntu)?
[23:38] <the_fronny> need help installing LTSP using ubuntu-7.10
[23:38] <nikolam> hi, does anyone knows how do I look at traffic over USB interface?
[23:38] <spacebison> RProgrammer: look on the back of the machine?
[23:38] <brotkasten> RProgrammer: look at the bottom side of you box :)
[23:38] <b3rz3rk3r> RProgrammer, there isnt a sticker on the underside?
[23:38] <nikolam> I would like to figure out if my scaner uses USB2.0 or 1.0 speeds
[23:38] <RProgrammer> I don't have a box (eg, eBay) and it's a laptop
[23:38] <nikolam> spacebison, lol :)
[23:39] <proq> RProgrammer: a laptop is a box
[23:39] <nikolam> brotkasten, no siriously, how to watch it real time over usb? :)
[23:39] <brotkasten> RProgrammer: so turn it upside down ... and look at the bottom ... something like S/N ?
[23:39] <FastZ> ActionParsnip, brotkasten, Strider22, ok guys, my mistake completely.  the x-over cable i just made works great.  I guess i was just under the impression that since the one box was configured as a router/firewall, that it would act just as though it was a router/firwewall that was built to be such instead of one that's built from an old PC (486Mhz Intel Celeron !!!! Lightning fast!)
[23:40] <RProgrammer> It's not on the bottom
[23:40] <FlashGordon2000> /rb
[23:40] <b3rz3rk3r> nikolam, just watch data transfer speed?
[23:40] <ActionParsnip> FastZ: it ssentially a PC connecing to a PC so the TX needs to hit the RX
[23:40] <RProgrammer> But I just realized it's inside the battery compartment
[23:40] <RProgrammer> Nevermind; thanks, though
[23:40] <FastZ> ActionParsnip, roger that, I didnt even think of it that way
[23:40] <sako> helllllooooooooooo
[23:40] <ActionParsnip> FastZ: my router is a bsd box on not much faster
[23:40] <scunizi> How do I get into the back end of firefox?  on the address line it's something like.. about:<something>
[23:40] <brotkasten> there you go :)
[23:40] <bankix> nikolam: No probem.
[23:40] <nikolam> b3rz3rk3r, yes
[23:40] <b3rz3rk3r> scunizi, about:config
[23:40] <bankix> nikolam: Just look into /sys/bus/usb/devices/*/speed
[23:41] <scunizi> b3rz3rk3r: thanks
[23:41] <brotkasten> about:mozilla
[23:41] <nikolam> bankix, and that is real-time?
[23:41] <b3rz3rk3r> scunizi, np man
[23:41] <Cube> ok, i beg you guys, SOMEBODY PLEASE HELP ME: firefox keeps opening the same tabs over and over again. i had it installed over the ubuntuzilla script (and it worked perfectly for like 3 weeks), so i removed 3.5.2 with that, then removed the 3.0.13 (rep version) with sudo apt-get. reinstalled. STILL OPENING THE SAME TABS. firefox keeps thinking its starting for the first time every time it starts. so it opens all the new pages in tabs that the PLUGINS
[23:41] <proq> I have a backup of sda1 on an equally-sized partition sda2.  when I change /etc/fstab to use sda2 as /, it works fine.  but when I change it back to /etc/fstab my machine becomes unbootable.  is this something MBR-related?
[23:41] <bankix> nikolam: No, it tells you if the scanner is connected via USB 2.0 (480) or 1.1 (12)
[23:41] <FastZ> ActionParsnip, im just suprised this old rock still runs.  I bought this one about 12 years ago
[23:41] <brotkasten> :) about:config you mean
[23:41] <b3rz3rk3r> nikolam, bankix suggestion is far more accurate.. suggest using that rather.. nice one bankix
[23:41] <bankix> nikolam: It's no speed meter.
[23:41] <nikolam> bankix, that is usefull also, 10x.
[23:41] <proq> erm, when I change it back to sda1 I mean
[23:42] <spacebison> about:robots
[23:42] <ActionParsnip> FastZ: old stff lasts, new stff is made to be disposable
[23:42] <nikolam> but if one wants to measure it in rt, it would need to.. program and communicate with kernel, yes?
[23:42] <proq> I almost get the suspicion that changing root in /etc/fstab to sda2 doesn't really change it to sda2, but makes ubuntu get sda1 and sda2 mixed up
[23:42] <Zabadda> im trying to get a Dell latitude E6400 to connect to wifi but its not picking anything up could it be that the card (intel 5100AGN) is not in the repositories yet?
[23:43] <brotkasten> spacebison: haha ...didn't know that one :)
[23:43] <bankix> nikolam: Why for hell do you want to watch the "usb traffic" of your scanner?
[23:43] <bankix> nikolam: There's absolutely nothing you could do about.
[23:43] <ActionParsnip> proq: you'll need to instal grub probably
[23:43] <b3rz3rk3r> nikolam, yeah, that is a bit odd.. what are you doing?
[23:43] <proq> bankix: no need to ask why.  it's perfectly valid to want to do that
[23:43] <nikolam> bankix, to see if scanner actually communicate at usb 1.0 speed even if 2.0 is advertized :)
[23:44] <bankix> nikolam: Then look into the file I mentioned.
[23:44] <FastZ> ActionParsnip, i totally believe that.  I took this particular box apart the other day for the first time in years and i couldnt distinguish any single fin on the CPU heatsink....I figure they were fused to one another by the decade's worth of dust
[23:44] <convergence> Had Wireless working under arch linux, but can't get it under ubuntu. I'm using 8.04. I have a BCM wland card, and the driver IS loaded.  I went to network manager and entered all of the correct info: wpa2 home,ssid,pass,etc;
[23:44] <bankix> nikolam: If speed says 480 (kbit/s), then it's using USB 2.0. If speed says only 12 (kbit/s), it's using USB 1.1.
[23:44] <FastZ> ActionParsnip, it seemed to run a little quieter before i cleaned it
[23:44] <nikolam> 10x bankix i woul just need to identify port. ok.
[23:44] <Dr_Willis> FastZ:  seen that befor. :) Always amazing how much crud gets in there.
[23:44] <bankix> nikolam: There is no way in "switching" back and forth.
[23:45] <Dr_Willis> FastZ:  could be the fans are a bit out of balance now.
[23:45] <b3rz3rk3r> cant wait for USB 3.0 !!!
[23:45] <convergence> and i still "network unreachable" when i ping router
[23:45] <bankix> nikolam: So if "speed" says 480, the scanner uses USB 2.0 all the time. Cause every speed switch would require a disconnect and reconnect.
[23:45] <joeyeye> how do I change permissions on automounted volumes like usb drives ? I want to permit access only to certain groups
[23:45] <nikolam> there is many "usb 2.o compatible scanners that actually works on 1.1 or so" But I understand what you mean , 10x again
[23:45] <Dr_Willis> joeyeye:  what filesystem is the usb drive?
[23:46] <nikolam> bankix, 10x for clarification again :)
[23:46] <brotkasten> convergence: but you are connected to it?
[23:46] <joeyeye> Dr_Willis: NTFS
[23:46] <bankix> nikolam: You could identify the device easily. Just call lspci
[23:46] <bankix> nikolam: Sorry, lsusb of course.
[23:46] <ActionParsnip> b3rz3rk3r: try firewire instad ;)
[23:46] <MindVirus> My CPU usage is constantly high from Xorg.
[23:46] <bankix> nikolam: There is a bus number and device number mentioned at the beginning of the line for your scanner device.
[23:46] <convergence> brotkasten: connected to the network?
[23:46] <b3rz3rk3r> ActionParsnip, ugh.. surely you jest sire?
[23:46] <nikolam> thats it, Bus 006 Device 004:
[23:47] <brotkasten> convergence: yes, via wireless i mean ...
[23:47] <bankix> nikolam: Just look into /sys/bus/usb/devices/*/ for the files busnum and devnum, and check it for matching bus number an device number.
[23:47] <Dr_Willis> joeyeye:  im not sure the automonting has a guy for that exact of settings - there is the 'ntfs-config' tool that can tweak some settings.  It might be possible to alter the hal/fdi files to tweak them some more. but thats over my head. i recall  seeing forum threads on changing permissions of specific auto devices that way befor
[23:47] <MindVirus> Any suggestions?
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> b3rz3rk3r: its buffered so transmission is smoother, usb is bursty so there are lots of gaps in the data transmitted
[23:47] <brotkasten> convergence: because you mention you cannot ping the router...
[23:47] <convergence> this is a different computer, if that is what you mean.  the one that i'm trying to setup wireless on is NOT connected
[23:47] <nikolam> yes I see thats it,
[23:47] <joeyeye> Dr_Willis: ok, will trawl through the forums
[23:47] <convergence> No internet in firefox, no connectivity whatsoever,
[23:48] <^cheeky> iam looking @ my conk under system montitor i just started it .. and it shows "pipe wait " what does that mean
[23:48] <MindVirus> Does anyone else have Xorg eating CPU?
[23:48] <Bookman> Yes, I do
[23:48] <Bookman> 100% all the time
[23:48] <ActionParsnip> convergence: can you ing the routers intenal ip?
[23:48] <CopyWriter> hello all
[23:48] <brotkasten> convergence: what does iwconfig say? is your nic listed?
[23:48] <b3rz3rk3r> ActionParsnip, no i mean.. its a good interface.. dont get me wrong. However, nobody really uses it do they? Its fine for my gear, but if i take my firewire drive to my mates house, he'll be like.. whats this?
[23:48] <convergence> ActionParsnip: no.  lol
[23:48] <Dr_Willis> xorg is using 1% here. :)
[23:49] <convergence> brotkasten: yes
[23:49] <convergence> it is
[23:49] <ActionParsnip> b3rz3rk3r: i use it for my backups
[23:49] <convergence> it has a '*' in front of it
[23:49] <convergence> don't know if that is the problem
[23:49] <convergence> and it says something about that network being disabled
[23:49] <b3rz3rk3r> ActionParsnip, whats the actual difference in throughput (IRL.. not official)
[23:50] <ActionParsnip> convergence: do you get an ip suitable to your routers network?
[23:51] <AgentBlair> does bestbuy support Ubuntu guys? like install a modem on a computer with ubuntu?
[23:51] <convergence> ActionParsnip: at first i manually configured my ip address as I have always done.  then for some reason, the network manager would delete my pw and ssid, and even the wpa2 settings whenever i did this
[23:51] <ActionParsnip> b3rz3rk3r: http://www.usb-ware.com/firewire-vs-usb.htm
[23:51] <convergence> so i had to switch to dhcp
[23:51] <ActionParsnip> convergence: you cold try  different app
[23:51] <convergence> and it does give me an appropriate ip
[23:51] <b3rz3rk3r> ActionParsnip, thx
[23:51] <Dr_Willis> AgentBlair:  a dialup modem - will always be a gamble on linux.
[23:52] <convergence> ActionParsnip: i'm listening
[23:52] <acr0nym> Dr_Willis those still exist
[23:52] <AgentBlair> darn
[23:52] <AgentBlair> what about DSL?
[23:52] <Dr_Willis> AgentBlair:  unless you track down a good old fashioned external serial modem
[23:52] <AgentBlair> any kind of modem
[23:52] <Dr_Willis> acr0nym:  yes.. and they are a 'may or may not work thing'
[23:52] <ActionParsnip> b3rz3rk3r: basically for small transfers (1Gb of data) then USB is fine, For lage transfers, like my 300Gb transfer, then firewire is way superior
[23:52] <AgentBlair> well my question was if bestby supports it
[23:52] <brotkasten> convergence: how is it giving you an IP if you are not connected?
[23:52] <FastZ> Dr_Willis, yeah, i think that's what is making the most noise now is the CPU fan
[23:52] <AgentBlair> and sounds like they won't
[23:52] <Dr_Willis> AgentBlair:  'any' is the operative word.. theres a BIG  varity of the,
[23:52] <AgentBlair> yeah
[23:52] <ActionParsnip> convergence: could try wifi-radar
[23:53] <mikejet> How do I uninstall firefox-3.0 so it doesn't keep updating and overwriting my firefox-3.5.2 ?
[23:53] <Dr_Willis> AgentBlair:  i have some exteranal  serial modems  that always work.. because they are 'full/real/external'  :) cost me like $130 years back
[23:53] <boomerang> Hey there I have an issue, I got no sound, anyone willing to help??
[23:53] <convergence> oh, i guess i didn't think my answer thru, i guess it didn't assign me an ip address with dhcp
[23:53] <b3rz3rk3r> ActionParsnip, yeah i can see.. wow. Been thinking about getting an eSATA drive to do my backups on (rather than USB2) but maybe Firewire is an option now too
[23:53] <AgentBlair> well this is for an older relative who doesn't live near me
[23:53] <convergence> wifi radar is a manager?
[23:54] <ActionParsnip> b3rz3rk3r: not tried esata. i dont even use sata for my internal drives
[23:54] <brotkasten> boomerang: did you try alsamixer and unmute all the channels
[23:54] <ActionParsnip> !info wifi-radar
[23:54] <b3rz3rk3r> ActionParsnip, what are you running? SCSI? or *gasp* IDE?
[23:54] <ActionParsnip> b3rz3rk3r: all drivs hav IDE, I use PATA
[23:54] <boomerang> brotkasten: I tired unmuting everything, didn't work unfortunately
[23:55] <Crshman> how do I reinstall the default pulseaudio configuration files at /etc/pulseaudio ?
[23:55] <brotkasten> boomerang: if you open a konsole ... then alsamixer .. all the channels with 'MM' in front are still muted ... check this please
[23:55] <convergence> ActionParsnip: ok, i guess i'll try that, i can probably just download the package with my working archlinux computer, and then move the file to the ubuntu computer
[23:55] <MindVirus> Does anyone know why Xorg could be using 50% CPU?
[23:56] <brotkasten> boomerang: to unmute select the channel and press 'm'
[23:56] <ActionParsnip> MindVirus: have you installed and configured video drivers?
[23:56] <MindVirus> Yep, nVidia drivers.
[23:56] <FastZ> see ya guys
[23:56] <linduxed> i screwed up my bash completion for mplayer, accidentally ran a "complete mplayer" when i wanted to append stuff. Is there a way to restore it?
[23:56] <boomerang> brotkasten: it replied "function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory" that bad??
[23:56] <x2o> möpse
[23:57] <brotkasten> boomerang: probably your alsa drivers are not loaded correctly...
[23:57] <ActionParsnip> MindVirus: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=779088
[23:57] <brotkasten> boomerang: try lsmod | grep snd*
[23:57] <brotkasten> boomerang: try lsmod | grep snd
[23:57] <q0_0p> i have trouble compiling
[23:57] <boomerang> brotkasten: k ill try
[23:57] <q0_0p> configure: error: No OpenGL library could be found.
[23:58] <brotkasten> boomerang: does it have any snd_ moules loaded (listed in grep)?
[23:58] <boomerang> brotkasten: I did it, and then tried the alsmixer command again, It didnt work...
[23:59] <convergence> are wpasupplicant, wireless-tools and python-gtk2 installed by default in 8.04?  I'm going to have to download this manually including any dependencies
[23:59] <brotkasten> boomerang: this won't load them ... just list them if they are loaded... the 'lsmod | grep snd' ... did it print out anything like snd_pcm ?