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Ursinhaspm, hi :)05:41
spmUrsinha: heyo!05:41
Ursinhaoops, wrong channel05:41
Ursinha:P05:41
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anacrolixgreets06:00
anacrolixis this the right place if i'm having trouble with source packages on launchpad?06:00
wgrantanacrolix: Possibly. Ask the question and you'll be redirected if not.06:05
anacrolixwhen i upload my source package, the diff.gz is being modified, or isn't the one i uploaded, after i've removed a gcc (>=4.4) line from the build-depends06:06
wgrantanacrolix: The .diff.gz isn't being modified. What gives you this idea?06:06
anacrolixwell when i view it from the launchpad site, the gcc 4.4 is back in the build-depends, and the build fails becoz of it06:07
anacrolixbut when i dput it, it didn't contain that06:07
wgrantanacrolix: You didn't try to dput the same version number twice, did you?06:08
wgrantAre you sure you're looking at the right version?06:08
wgrantLaunchpad doesn't mutate uploaded files like that, so it's probably something else.06:08
anacrolixalright i'll triple check (already double checked), perhaps there's some browser caching shenanigans or something06:09
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noodles775Hi poolie, I forgot to mention, I updated the PPA mock with your comments: https://dev.launchpad.net/VersionThreeDotO/Soyuz/PPAUI08:44
noodles775I've integrated the timeline with the latest-uploads (as otherwise it would have been duplicating some of the info). See what you think anyway.08:46
pooliek08:50
poolienoodles775: is there any general policy or plan for when to use portlets in ui 3?08:53
noodles775poolie: yes, quite specific actually08:53
* noodles775 finds the link08:53
pooliei'd say basically that looks good08:54
poolievery good08:54
noodles775Does the page have actions that create objects or notifications, does08:54
noodles775      it have a subscriber's list, does it have notification (events) to08:54
noodles775      show recent activity?08:54
noodles775From: https://dev.launchpad.net/VersionThreeDotO/UI/Conversion08:54
noodles775Thanks!08:54
pooliethere's a couple of things i mentioned before, maybe after you mentioned this08:54
pooliethe link text "How do I use ..."08:54
poolieand that you should be clear, i think, that ppa:cprov only works on karmic08:55
poolie"27 packages are included in this PPA for your system" -- i don't know what you mean by "for your system"08:55
noodles775Yes, I forgot to include the note on the image that the text only display that if the user is using karmic.08:55
pooliewhy not just delete that, it seems redundant with the list below08:55
noodles775Hmm... for your Ubuntu 9.10 system.08:56
noodles775True.08:56
pooliei really like the notifications08:56
poolieyou may need to modify the changelog entries a bit to make them fit in there.08:56
noodles775Great! (it was your input that created it ;) ).08:56
noodles775Yes, perhaps truncated with a link... we'll have to see how it fits.08:57
noodles775BTW: Thanks for all your input inte LP3-0 generally, looking at the list, you're becoming the main source of input :)08:57
poolieok, that conversion page makes sense and it looks like it fits what you're doing08:57
pooliethanks, i hope it helps08:57
noodles775It does indeed.08:58
poolieit looks like it's going well08:58
poolieso as i mentioned on the other thing08:58
pooliei'm a bit concerned that two columns plus portlets will be unwieldy on the little netbooks kids use these days ;-)08:58
poolieyour mockup would probably scroll horizontally even on my fairly oldfashioned x series thinkpad08:59
noodles775I'm not 100%, but I think YUI grid might even collapse the two columns into one when there is not enough space.08:59
poolieoh, wow08:59
poolieok08:59
noodles775I'm not sure, I just noticed that happening when I was playing with a different mock. We should try to ensure it does something sensible though.08:59
poolieoverly wide layouts was a big annoyance in lp 1.x09:01
poolieprobably before your time here09:01
* wgrant has nearly forgotten was 0.0 was like.09:02
noodles775yes, I wonder if it's worth a general email to lp-dev on the topic?09:02
noodles775I'm *guessing* (as it was before my time) that they were table-based columns, which wouldn't fold.09:03
* noodles775 checks yui grid examples.09:03
pooliegood night09:12
lifelessciao09:12
noodles775Night poolie09:12
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jcastroAny admins around? I created lp.net/communitycouncil, but then set the team as maintainer, and I forgot to set the flag to make them use lp as a bug tracker.12:08
jcastro(we're trying to make it so people can file bugs against the community council12:08
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sinzuijcastro: What will communitycoucil and the tech board be producing? I do not understand why they are projects14:07
stashi, what does it mean when my package in ppa says "dependency wait" ?14:16
Davieystas: Are you building a version of one of the build deps?14:17
stasDaviey: I'm trying to build a backport14:18
stasso this means that the dependency is unavailable and I have to review the deps?14:19
Davieystas: possibly/probably14:19
Davieystas: Is it a MANUAL wait?14:19
stasMANUAL means set by me?14:19
Davieystas: I'm not exactly sure, but there are two types of "dependency wait", manual and auto14:20
Davieymanual means it won't resolve, and you need to fire a rebuild14:20
Davieyauto seems to trigger the rebuild, if the build dep is awaiting building in your PPA14:21
DavieyI'm not exactly sure, that is just my experience14:21
stasthan it's an auto and I have to review the depends of the package14:22
stasthank you Daviey14:22
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jcastrosinzui, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReportingCommunityProblems14:43
sinzuiunderstood14:45
sinzuijcastro: Do you need me to change anything on the project as I approve them?14:46
jcastrowell normally I set it right and then hand it off to that team, but I messed it up this time.14:46
sinzuijcastro: I think we do need an admin or member of the council to set official bugs and answers14:47
jcastroyeah14:48
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gesera question about LP API: what's the difference between a source_package and a distribution_source_package? looking at +apidoc I couldn't figure out yet, when the former is used and when the later15:10
jmlgeser, a source_package could be better named 'distro_series_source_package'15:34
jmlgeser, it's specifically tied to a release of a distribution.15:34
jmlgeser, whereas a distribution_source_package is more general.15:35
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jcastromrevell, around?16:19
mrevellhey jcastro I am16:19
jcastrohi16:19
jcastroI need help with a little fire16:19
mrevellSure, what's up?16:20
jcastroI need an admin or someone to set this project to use lp bugs and answers: https://launchpad.net/communitycouncil16:20
mrevellherb: can you help jcastro? ^^^^^16:21
herbmrevell: after the meeting? optionally check in with mthaddon who *may* have time now.16:22
herbthough I can't speak for him.16:22
mthaddonjcastro: I can do that for you16:22
jcastromthaddon, that would be great! Thanks mrevell and herb!16:22
mthaddonjcastro: ok, done16:23
jcastrothanks!16:23
mrevellthanks guys :)16:23
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sladenwhat happened to the Launchpad CSS semi-recently that has made scrolling/pageup/pagedowining impossible16:28
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MagilumI'm trying to build a java package in my PPA; however, the build fails because the build system installs an openjdk JRE and sun-java JDK. Is there any way to fix this? I have java-sdk in my build depends, but I guess that isn't specific enough?16:43
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maxbMagilum: This suggests a problem with your Build-Depends line. Please provide a paste of your Build-Depends(-Indep) and a link to the PPA package buildlog - thanks!17:52
jcfpis there any way to password protect a ppa?17:56
bigjoolsjcfp: yes, private PPAs, but you need to pay17:56
jcfpbummer17:57
bigjoolsunless you mean something else?17:57
maxbYou get what you pay for - if you don't pay in money you pay in making your packages available to anyone who wants them. Seems fair :-)17:58
jcfpbigjools: tx for your answer17:59
bigjoolsnp17:59
bigjoolsjcfp: out of interest, what are you looking to do?17:59
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jcfpbigjools: using ppa for unreleased alphas of a program I package18:01
Magilummaxb: Nope, it's a known bug in Soyuz: https://bugs.launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/243779/+viewstatus18:01
ubottuLaunchpad bug 243779 in soyuz "ppa: build dependencies resolved inconsistently" [Undecided,Invalid]18:01
jcfpalthough their svn is public, I don't fancy loads of complaints from joe average after installing it the easy way18:02
bigjoolsI doubt that would be a problem18:03
jcfpprobably not but my time is already extremely limited18:03
maxbMagilum: How come all the builds in that PPA are showing as successful, then?18:03
bigjoolswell unless you advertise your PPA... and you can mark it as alpha in the description18:04
maxbMagilum: And that bug report is marked as Invalid18:05
jcfpbigjools: fair enough, that just gave me some good ideas, tx for your time18:06
Magilummaxb: Okay, have it your way... my Build-Depends line is "java-sdk,ant" and my build log is here: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/29963122/buildlog_ubuntu-jaunty-i386.i2p_0.7.6-rtc1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz18:06
maxbMagilum: sorry, should have asked for a link to the ppa as well18:07
Magilummaxb: https://launchpad.net/~tedks/+archive/ppa18:08
Magilummaxb: so what's actually going on, if not the Soyuz bug?18:11
maxbWell, it's installing packages that satisfy java-sdk. Problem is that there's nothing which ensures that ant will execute with the java install installed to satisfy java-sdk18:12
MagilumThe problem seems to be that it's installing an SDK and a runtime from different java versions.18:15
maxbOr rather, that it's installing a SDK and two runtimes18:17
MagilumSo, how does my build-dep line cause that?18:19
Magilumdo I have to depend on a specific jdk and jre?18:19
maxbWell, from intrepid, the thing to do would be to depend on default-jdk18:23
maxbFor hardy, I think you might have to pick one18:23
MagilumIs that how Debian handles it now too?18:24
maxbyes18:27
Magilumalright, I'll try that and see if it works.18:30
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EspadaV8hi, i've just been looking over the lp site and checking out the import options, but noticed it's only possible to import from svn:// or http(s):// for subversion19:09
EspadaV8however, neither of this options are available for my repo19:09
EspadaV8the only way is via svn+ssh://19:10
EspadaV8is it likely that it would be possible to upload an svnadmin dump at some point?19:10
EspadaV8(or some other way)19:10
beunoEspadaV8, is this a one-time import you want to do?19:11
EspadaV8yeah19:12
beunoEspadaV8, then I think it's better to do a local conversion with bzr-svn19:12
EspadaV8i've currently got a set up that only i can checkout of, but i want to move it to a hosted site (like lp/sf.net/google code)19:13
beunoand then just push the branch up to launchpad19:13
beunoimports are usually better for recuring mirroring19:13
EspadaV8ah, ok19:13
EspadaV8yeah, i don't want it mirrored at all19:13
EspadaV8i'm basically moving everything19:13
EspadaV8i've not use bzr before, or git, or any dvcs, so i'm just seeing what's available atm19:14
LarstiQEspadaV8: you'll want the bzr-svn plugin then19:18
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days_of_ruinI am trying to delete a series  and I get this area:  Sorry, there was a problem connecting to the Launchpad server.20:15
days_of_ruinTry reloading this page in a minute or two. If the problem persists, let us know in the #launchpad IRC channel on Freenode.20:15
days_of_ruinThanks for your patience.20:15
days_of_ruin*Error*20:15
DarxusHow do I change which bug a bug is a duplicate of?20:44
LarstiQDarxus: undupe it first20:45
DarxusLarstiQ: Thanks, how?20:46
DarxusAhh, think I got it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/malone/+bug/5010820:48
ubottuLaunchpad bug 50108 in malone "Not obvious how to remove a bug's duplicate marking" [Medium,Triaged]20:48
DarxusEr, no.20:48
DarxusThere we go.  I have to click update description, then mark as duplicate, then change what it's a duplicate of.20:51
DarxusSuboptimal :)20:51
days_of_ruinCan an admin delete the 0.6 series for rssn?20:55
allenapabentley: Hi. Can you try branching lp:~jelmer/trac-launchpad-migrator/merge? I get told it's not a branch, yet the web UI thinks it is.21:12
abentleyallenap: The web UI says "This branch has not been pushed to yet".21:13
allenapabentley: Oh yes! I guess he must have erased it, because there is a merge proposal for it with diff. Thanks, sorry for not spotting that before.21:15
abentleyallenap: It looks like it was created with "bzr send" but something went wrong before the branch got filled out.21:17
allenapabentley: Okay. I'll ask Jelmer to push them instead.21:19
kfogelSanity check: Launchpad bugs can receive bug reports by email from people who are not registered in Launchpad, right?21:40
* kfogel thinks so, but wants to be certain21:40
kfogeloh, no, apparently not21:41
kfogel    *21:41
kfogel      From address: the address from which you send the email must be registered in your Launchpad account.21:41
kfogelhttps://help.launchpad.net/Bugs/EmailInterface21:41
LarstiQisn't that if you want to send commands?21:41
LarstiQwhich you also need to gpg sign?21:41
LarstiQbut maybe also want to prevent comment spam, hmm21:42
kfogelLarstiQ: I think it's for all email commands, including "create a new bug"21:42
LarstiQkfogel: oh, creating new bugs certainly21:42
kfogelLarstiQ: hmmm.  I had hoped launchpad.net/test was a test project anyone could use to experiment with these things, but apparently not21:42
LarstiQkfogel: you're in the realm I as a user know little about21:43
kfogelLarstiQ: this GPG-signing, hmm... I mean, to prevent the vast majority of spam, it's sufficient to just insist on a certain command in every mail, like " launchpad-real-human: yes" or whatever21:44
kfogelGPG is such huge overhead for most people.21:44
LarstiQmaybe I'm wrong21:45
abentleykfogel: You can test mail handling on staging.21:58
kfogelabentley: thanks22:00
kfogelabentley: gary had implied to me it might not work22:00
abentleykfogel: All mail on staging gets redirected into one IMAP folder, which you can check.22:00
gary_postersorry, I didn't know that kfogel!  cool.22:01
kfogelabentley: this is about bug manipulation22:02
abentleykfogel: Yes, that's what I gathered.22:02
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AlanBellevening all. I am trying to mark bug 304702 as also affecting alfresco-community, but it is telling me alfresco-community isn't a project22:43
ubottuLaunchpad bug 304702 in rhino "E4X not work with rhino" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/30470222:43
AlanBelloh, hang on22:44
AlanBelluser error22:44
AlanBellsorry. "also affects distribution" for packages22:45
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sigmonsaysI'm trying to use txamqp deb repo and can't figure out where to find the GPG key used to sign the packages...23:38
sigmonsaysof course it's not in the docs23:38
sigmonsayscause who would do that!23:38
spmsigmonsays: https://edge.launchpad.net/~txamqpteam/+archive/ppa <== where it says "signing key"?23:46
sigmonsaysHrm. How did u find that :)23:47
spmsigmonsays: :-) 1. I know from longish experience, and 2. https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA/InstallingSoftware23:48
wgrantBug #277354 is probably relevant.23:49
ubottuLaunchpad bug 277354 in soyuz "ppa apache index should link back to launchpad" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27735423:49
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sigmonsaysman -- nothing but trouble23:57
sigmonsaysis it me or is the key server dead?  apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys  EF0CEEF2  just hangs....23:57
sigmonsayswoot got it23:59

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