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[05:58] <qwebirc62015> test
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[07:26] <persia> Sorry to be late.  Anyone about for a Packaging Training session?  I'll start about 6:30 about updating packages, if there is interest.
[07:40] <persia> Anyone?
[07:42] <JamesCharles> !
[07:43] <Rail> +1
[07:43] <persia> JamesCharles, Hey.  Since you seem to be the only interested party, is there something other than updating a package that might be interesting to you?
[07:43] <persia> Rail, Feel free to suggest something as well :)
[07:44] <JamesCharles> lol, i'm the only one!
[07:44] <Rail> hmm, maybe compatability between Debian and Ubuntu... :)
[07:44] <persia> Well, half.  I spoke too soon.
[07:46] <persia> Rail, Have you read sabdfl's essay about that?  ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarkShuttleworth#What%20about%20binary%20compatibility%20between%20distributions )  I could talk about some specific bits in more detail, or about collaboration between Debian and Ubuntu.
[07:46] <Rail> persia: as you now, mozilla-devscripts is not in Debian, so using it is an issue...
[07:48] <persia> For cases like that, where some useful piece of build infrastructure has been developed, it's often a good idea to introduce it for wider use by submitting it to Debian.  In this specific case, it's a bit tricky because of the name.
[07:49] <Rail> I don't care about binary compatability, it's normal to have different system libs...
[07:50] <Rail> you mean mozilla part of the package name?
[07:51] <persia> Yes.  As I understand it, the word "mozilla" is protected in various ways.  I'm not deeply familar with the details.
[07:52] <Rail> xpi-devtools would be a solution. :)
[07:52] <persia> Indeed, although it would also need to be something that met the needs of those maintaining the mozilla suite for both Debian and Ubuntu to be useful in Debian.
[07:52] <persia> I'm not sure it would be the right answer for iceweasel, but it might help for some of the extensions.
[07:53] <persia> I'd recommend discussion with the Ubuntu Mozilla Team (on #ubuntu-mozillateam) who are vastly more well informed than I.
[07:53] <Rail> ok
[07:55] <Rail> is there special tricks in debian/watch for xpi?
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[07:56] <persia> I believe there are some special scripts used to drive the get-orig-source rules.  I don't know if they also provide watch file hooks.  I haven't looked at mozilla-devscripts in at least a year, and I know it's gotten better during that time.
[07:57] <persia> My areas of expertise are more about creating packages, updating packages, merging packages, splitting packages, adding patches to packages, replacing packages, etc.
[07:58] <persia> I'm less knowledgeable about things having to do with specific subclasses of packages.
[07:58] <Rail> np
[08:09] <DasEi> still probs with time, date - u tells me 7.30 , that's right with you ?
[08:09] <DasEi> 7.08, sorry
[08:10] <DasEi> DreamThief: whats your ubuntu-classroom time now ?
[08:13] <Rail> date --utc :)
[08:13] <qwebirc89708> hi
[08:15] <DasEi> k, same as date -u for me, 7.14 now
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[10:22] <alifaan> How to upgrade a package properly already finished?
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[16:27] <qwebirc14883> hi ubuntu :::D
[16:29] <aboSamoor> Hi, I don't know anything about packaging but I will try to read and understand :)
[16:34] <mmaret> aboSamoor: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=51003
[16:35] <mmaret> or you can also search for IRC log
[16:35] <mmaret> and get previous lesson about this subject
[16:37] <mmaret> aboSamoor: for this morning session (that was a very short one) http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2009/08/06/
[16:37] <aboSamoor> mmaret, yeah, I was not precise. I tried the packaging tutorial many times. And every time I fail to sign and upload the packages. I was following the guides with the help of #ubuntu-motu
[16:38] <mmaret> ok sorry :)
[16:40] <aboSamoor> mmaret, packaging is not hard but I think it is more depends on experience and this signing problem is really annoying :(
[16:40] <mmaret> hoo yes!
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[18:31] <stas> hi, is there any workaround to replace dh_lintian in debhelper v.6.0.4?
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