[01:59] <maxb> Whereabouts is the configuration for gnome's default media player? The one that is offered on the "This disc is a video DVD" strip?
[02:00] <maxb> Mine's still suggesting "Movie Player (Xine)" despite the fact that totem-xine is gone
[04:23] <joem> does anybody know how to enable madwifi drivers on a 9.10 alpha install? is there a madwifi dkms package availabe somehwere?
[04:38] <jmarsden> joem: I think 9.10 alpha means you should be asking in #ubuntu+1
[06:49] <tjaalton> seems like podsleuth doesn't recognize ipods in karmic, making banshee fail too.. bug 382941
[08:43] <pitti> Good morning
[08:51] <huats> morning everyone !
[08:53] <pitti> hey huats
[08:59] <huats> how are you pitti ?
[08:59] <chrisccoulson> good morning pitti and huats!
[09:00] <huats> hello chrisccoulson
[09:00] <chrisccoulson> hello huats! i'm surprised there is someone else in here this morning ;)
[09:02] <huats> chrisccoulson: surprised  ?
[09:02] <huats> why?
[09:02] <chrisccoulson> it's been so quiet this week
[09:03] <huats> oh ok :)
[09:12] <chrisccoulson> hi seb128 - you don't mind me doing bug 406077 do you? i was going to build the extra module in to a separate package (python-gda)
[09:12] <seb128> hey huats chrisccoulson
[09:12] <seb128> chrisccoulson, go for it
[09:12] <chrisccoulson> thanks seb128:)
[09:13] <chrisccoulson> i should do it before you all go on holiday else i will have nobody left to sponsor it;)
[09:15] <huats> hello seb128 :)
[09:16] <huats> chrisccoulson: you are right to d that it is needed for the new libgda
[09:16] <huats> IIRC
[09:17] <seb128> chrisccoulson, don't worry there is only a one week of overlap in holidays
[09:17] <seb128> and other people will still do sponsoring
[09:17] <chrisccoulson> huats - it's needed for the new version of glom. i'm not sure about libgda
[09:17] <chrisccoulson> seb128 - thanks:)
[09:18] <chrisccoulson> hey, we got some sunlight here this morning ;)
[09:18] <huats> may be I mixed glom and libgda....
[09:18] <huats> :)
[09:20] <rickspencer31> asac: http://piware.de/workitems/desktop/karmic/report.html
[09:20] <asac> ulrunner-1.9.1-1.9.1.2+nobinonly/build-tree/mozilla/js/src/./nanojit/Assembler.cpp:975: undefined reference to `sync_instruction_memory'
[09:33]  * chrisccoulson wonders why some people change a bugs status without leaving any comment
[09:34] <pitti> rickspencer31: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/+specs?searchtext=desktop-karmic-
[09:34] <didrocks> good morning o/
[09:34] <chrisccoulson> hey didrocks
[09:35] <seb128> lut didrocks
[09:35] <seb128> didrocks,  bien dormis
[09:35] <didrocks> hey chrisccoulson, how are oyu?
[09:35] <didrocks> seb128: oui, peu, mais ça va :) et toi ?
[09:35] <chrisccoulson> didrocks - i'm good thanks. you?
[09:35] <seb128> assez et bien
[09:35] <seb128> 'ci
[09:35] <didrocks> chrisccoulson: fine, as tonight, it's holidays \o/
[09:36] <seb128> waouh
[09:36] <seb128> enjoy!
[09:36] <didrocks> seb128: thanks!
[09:36] <chrisccoulson> didrocks - are you going anywhere nice?
[09:36] <didrocks> chrisccoulson: I'll visit my parents in the Alpes (lot of moutains, good landscape...)
[09:37] <chrisccoulson> yeah, that's quite nice
[09:37] <didrocks> oh yes, comparing to Paris ;)
[09:38] <MacSlow> pedro_, we'll have the bug-session on notify-osd in the plenary-room in about 5 mintes.
[09:38] <MacSlow> minutes
[09:38] <pedro_> MacSlow, ok, i'll go there ;-)
[09:48] <chrisccoulson> pitti - bug 409216 is not a dk-disks bug is it?
[09:48] <pitti> chrisccoulson: it's a combined thing, it needs fixes in both gvfs and dk-disks
[09:48] <pitti> the bug is pretty well understood, just needs doing (I discussed it with david)
[09:48] <chrisccoulson> ah, ok. do you understand the issue then?
[09:49] <chrisccoulson> ah, ok
[09:49] <chrisccoulson> i was going to ask if you wanted me to look at it ;)
[09:55] <pitti> chrisccoulson: in meeting, TTYL
[10:27] <asac> seb128: [ubuntu/karmic] modemmanager 0.2.git.20090805t170359.2d194a5-0ubuntu1 (New)
[10:27] <asac> _but_ read 403009
[10:28] <seb128> bug #403009
[10:36] <seb128> asac, you don't have a compat, it's a detail but I'm so used to see those ;-)
[10:43] <seb128> asac, you forgot some copyright holders but that's minor too
[11:07] <Laney> time-admin seems really bugged: http://orangesquash.org.uk/~laney/tz.png
[11:17] <didrocks> bryce_away: pitti's ppa is no more needed for quickly :) (yes, that's an ashamed theft of distutils-extra backports ;))
[11:20] <seb128> Laney, right nothing new
[11:20] <seb128> gst is buggy written in perl and unmaintained
[11:20] <Laney> alright
[11:20] <Laney> someone raised it in another channel and I've never used it
[11:20] <seb128> we want to stop using it by default
[11:21] <seb128> but there is no user admin tool to replace it
[11:34] <pitti> didrocks: oh, and they took me so much work to do!
[11:34] <pitti> (like, 5 seconds or so)
[11:35] <didrocks> pitti: hehe :-)
[12:03] <pochu> + decide whether to use gnome-bluetooth or blueman in karmic: DONE
[12:03] <pochu> asac: what's the decission?
[12:09] <asac> pochu: gnome-bluetooth
[12:10] <pochu> okay :)
[12:10] <asac> we did details tests and blueman has quite a few bugs we cannot fix
[12:10] <asac> at least i have no time ;) (though its easier to fix becaues its python)
[12:10] <asac> but also python is too heavy weight for an applet
[12:11] <pochu> I see
[12:24] <asac> 11:27 < asac> _but_ read 403009
[12:25] <eeejay> hey rickspencer31, i am around, whenever you want to work on that couchdb glade stuff
[12:25] <rickspencer31> eeejay: great
[12:26] <rickspencer31> let me finish one thing and I'll come find you
[14:15] <kklimonda> asac: is flash back to using alsa directly or have I broken something?
[14:15] <asac> kklimonda: it always used alsa ... just in a way that the pulse plugin should work
[14:17] <kklimonda> asac: right, I've used a mental leap.. my bad
[14:20] <kklimonda> asac: so the right question should be "do you know about any outstanding problems with flash and pulse right now?" :)
[15:02] <andreasn> seb128, who packages Cheese for Ubuntu?
[15:02] <seb128> andreasn, nobody
[15:03] <seb128> ie it's updated when somebody notice there is a new version
[15:03] <andreasn> is anyone in charge of it so to say?
[15:03] <seb128> no
[15:04] <andreasn> a bit curious about http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=590945
[15:07] <seb128> andreasn, yeah I noticed that this week I wanted to change it in the next update
[15:08] <andreasn> ah, cool
[15:08] <seb128> not sure why this change has been added
[15:08] <andreasn> I just installed it today in a virtual machine and went like "huh, where is it?"
[15:43]  * mpt wonders if it makes sense for the touchpad to turn off automatically when a mouse is connected, and turn back on when it's disconnected
[15:43] <mpt> tseliot, what's the point of the ClickTime parameter?
[15:45] <tseliot> mpt: the duration of the mouse click generated by tapping
[15:45] <mpt> tseliot, yes, I just read that, but I don't understand why you'd want to change it
[15:48] <bcurtiswx> bug #400485
[15:48] <bcurtiswx> anyone else think this should be remedied before karmic release?
[15:48] <tseliot> mpt: ok, good point. Let's hide that and keep only MaxTapTime and MaxDoubleTapTime
[15:49] <mpt> ok :-)
[15:51] <bcurtiswx> anyone?
[15:55] <bcurtiswx> i was told to bring this to the attention of the desktop team as they may be interested
[16:00] <mpt> bcurtiswx, yes, it should
[16:00]  * mpt pokes seb128 
[16:00] <seb128> hello
[16:00] <seb128> (reading backlog)
[16:01] <mpt> I have suggested in <http://live.gnome.org/Empathy/AccountsAndSettings> that Empathy should not make you ferret into a separate control panel to choose sounds that don't exist in Ubuntu anyway, but I don't know if the Empathy developers will agree to that. :-)
[16:02] <bcurtiswx> mpt: it it too costly to put them into Ubuntu?
[16:02] <bcurtiswx> :s/it/is
[16:03] <mpt> bcurtiswx, I have no idea (that's for seb128 to answer), I'm just disclosing why that bug might possibly end up not needing to be fixed
[16:04] <Zdra> mpt: that won't be implemented for 2.28 anyway
[16:04] <bcurtiswx> mpt: ok cool, i think i created that bug in hopes that some type of sound events will end up in Empathy
[16:04] <mpt> ok, so in that case the Ubuntu bug does need fixing for 9.10
[16:04] <Zdra> mpt: your mockups are materials for 2.30/3.0
[16:04] <mpt> oh rly
[16:04] <bcurtiswx> i can imagine new users will want the sound events
[16:05] <seb128> has piding sounds by default?
[16:05] <Zdra> mpt: unless you have developers under your hand with plenty of freetime to implement before UI freeze, which is next week
[16:05] <seb128> how much space does the theme package takes?
[16:06] <bcurtiswx> seb128: there are a few sounds that are the same as pidgin (i think the buddy join and buddy part sounds), the others dont
[16:07] <bcurtiswx> the tgz file is 832kb
[16:07] <seb128> I've no strong opinion on it
[16:08] <seb128> would be a good idea to get that by default
[16:08] <bcurtiswx> pidgin had its own sounds, since pidgin is gone, i imagine the empathy ones can take its spot
[16:08] <mpt> seb128, the problem is that Empathy's Preferences currently have checkboxes that never do anything, because there's no corresponding setting in the Sound prefs
[16:09] <seb128> not sure if we need the full fdo theme though
[16:09] <bcurtiswx> can we pick and choose from the freedesktop theme?
[16:10] <Zdra> seb128: I said in the bugreport which sounds are used by empathy
[16:11] <Zdra> btw, 388519 seems dup of 400485
[16:12] <bcurtiswx> Zdra: alread marked as such and copied your info to the new bug report
[16:12] <Zdra> ah, didn't see. I'm not used to launchpad
[16:14] <seb128> Zdra, thanks
[16:14] <seb128> bcurtiswx, thanks too
[16:14] <seb128> I've accepted the bug as a karmic one
[16:15] <seb128> so it stays on our radar
[16:17] <bcurtiswx> seb128: yw, thanks for pushing it forward
[16:18] <davmor2> mpt: nice insight on the ui for empathy by the way makes a lot of sense bar the appearance tab
[16:18] <mpt> thanks
[17:01] <kenvandif> seb128, bug 409937
[17:03] <seb128> kenvandif, thanks
[17:03] <kenvandif> seb128, thank you!
[17:03] <seb128> kenvandif, please don't bump the standards-version when not required ;-)
[17:04] <seb128> I'm uploading without that change
[17:13] <asac> awe: 409943
[17:13] <asac> bug 409943
[17:25] <seb128> kenvandine, you need to run update-maintainer too when updating a package coming from debian
[17:26] <asac> ArneGoetje: hey. can you append the "devmode" argument to th einvokation of the rosetta xpi script ?
[17:26] <asac> i would like to implement the _all_ whitelisting
[17:28] <asac> i discussed with david that a good idea is to keep devmode for the dev release until translation deadline
[17:28] <asac> s/deadline/freeze/
[17:33] <seb128> huats, Laney: want so look at sponsoring bug #409057?
[17:33] <seb128> to
[17:33] <huats> seb128: I can't right now I need to run
[17:33] <seb128> ok, if you want to do it later this week
[17:33] <huats> I will later if Laney can't
[17:33] <seb128> ok thanks
[17:33] <huats> ok so I will
[17:33] <huats> :)
[17:33] <huats> tomorrow I think :)
[17:36] <ArneGoetje> asac: bin/process_xpi $content_dir $basepath $release devmode ?
[17:37] <asac> ArneGoetje: yeah. but just for the development release ;) ... e.g. if $release == 9.10 atm
[17:38] <ArneGoetje> asac: yeah...
[17:42] <chrisccoulson> hey didrocks - if you haven't gone already, then i hope you enjoy your holiday :)
[17:43] <ArneGoetje> asac: done
[17:49] <asac> ArneGoetje: thanks. i will do that tomorrow then.
[18:37] <istaz_> kenvandine: seb128 commented on bug 409937  butterfly 0.3.4 doesn't depend on papyon actually, only 0.5.0
[19:01] <Laney> I will sponsor that bug
[19:02] <Laney> I wrote "do some sponsoring" on my whiteboard today
[19:20] <istaz_> the nice fix would be to upload butterfy 0.5.0 devfil told me he had some package ready to be uploaded yesterday on the #telepathy channel