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kwahHi all00:28
kwahAre there howto's on how to package a number of software pieces at once?00:28
kwahFor example, I am packaging A and B00:29
kwahB should build-depend on A00:29
kwahWhat would be the way to proceed with chroot-ed environments etc?00:29
dtchenkwah: there are ways to accomplish that via pbuilder, sbuild, schroot, etc.00:31
kwahI guess there should be, of course.00:33
kwahDo I need a sort of local repo in chroot-ed env then?00:33
dtchenkwah: that's certainly one way to accomplish it. you could also just cp the newly built build-dependencies into the schroot.00:34
kwahAnd what about pbuilder? I build package A, put it into some-repo, update what is in chroot... Biuild package B?00:36
dtchenkwah: yes, same basic procedure regardless of chroot method00:37
* kwah tries to find his way around all this new things00:37
kwahthanks, dtchen00:38
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stochasticCan anyone revu ANY of these packages http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/xwax     http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/a2jmidid    http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/xjadeo     http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/slv2   ( http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/pyphat would also be nice)01:53
YokoZarstochastic: I think we're behind on the sponsorship/revu queue because dholbach is on vacation and most of the canonical people are at a Sprint01:59
YokoZarI'll try and get a tackle on some of it myself soon if I can02:00
stochasticYokoZar, ahh, that explains things, thanks.  I look forward to any comments/advocations you may have, but I'll sit pretty until the Sprint is over (when is that anyway?)02:01
YokoZarI think they're a week long02:01
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pace_t_zuluvorian: you around?02:39
vorianpace_t_zulu: yes sir02:43
pace_t_zuluvorian: any word on open-vm-tools?02:43
vorianjust got around to giving it the nod02:43
voriangood find on that one02:43
vorian:)02:43
pace_t_zuluvorian: yea, thanks... i'm a little iffy about the amd4 build02:45
pace_t_zuluthe i386 version is fine02:45
voriani'm amd6402:45
vorianit's fine02:45
pace_t_zuluok, it's my vm then02:47
pace_t_zuluno problem, if it builds and there are problems with the package, we can fix them02:48
pace_t_zuluit's been FTBFS for months02:48
voriantrue enough02:48
pace_t_zuluthis is better... give it time before oct. 2902:48
vorianvery much so02:49
pace_t_zuluvorian: you been motu for a while?02:49
vorianyeah02:50
voriantwice even :P02:50
pace_t_zuluvorian: cool03:03
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didrocksStevenK: thanks for closing the bug manually. As I opened it after having on the package, I forgot to put the number in the changelog11:31
StevenKdidrocks: No worries :-)11:31
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Laneyurgh12:26
Laneytrying to merge cdbs, not fun12:26
artfwohi! does anyone know what's the problem with REVU (dput)? It just gives me an error: "425 Security: Bad IP connecting." for anything I try to upload13:21
slytherinasac: Nice to see gnome-bluetooth being considered for main inclusion. :-)14:54
slytherinNCommander: directhex: does either if you have access to armel box?15:04
directhexi don't. i got arm working in qemu once if that helps15:04
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slytherindirecthex: will it be able to replicate a build failure seen on armel buildd?15:30
directhexslytherin, depends on what kind of failure it is. arm can be pretty sensitive to different host CPUs15:46
slytherindirecthex: the failure is because the javadoc takes too long on armel and hence build process times out.15:47
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bddebianHeya gang16:06
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TheMusoslytherin: Looks like we have powerpc again, there is now a big queue of rebuilds for powerpc.19:22
slytherinFigured that looking at the powerpc binary of modemmanager in queue. So is it now going to be a mass rebuilds?19:22
TheMusoYes, there is 600 odd according to https://lauchpad.net/builders.19:23
slytherinTheMuso: Am I right that libc6 was held back so that the version that was causing problem in installation due to kernel check will be skipped and next version will be installed whenever it is built.19:25
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fabrice_spHi. I'd like to provide a daily build of a package in a ppa. Is there some how-to? Or I have to make a local script that chain the 'uscan / uupdate / debuild -sa -S / dput' jobs?20:12
slytherinfabrice_sp: I believe someone from mozilla team is providing daily builds for xulrunner/firefox. Try talking with whoever the person is.20:14
maxb_It's fta and his scripts are in a bzr branch in his +junk20:14
fabrice_spI saw fta in their ppa (it's for chromium)20:14
fabrice_spI'll have a look. Thanks maxb_ !20:15
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mrooneyhow might I turn a diff into a dpatch?20:18
* fabrice_sp_ hates his ADSL provider! :-/20:19
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c_kornmrooney: man dpatch -> Creating dpatch scriptlets20:20
slytherinmrooney: dpatch-edit-patch name.patch, patch -px < file.diff, exit (value of x as appropriate in your case).20:20
RoAkSoAxfabrice_sp, me too :) Telefonica?20:23
fabrice_spRoAkSoAx, nop: Jazztel. But I think I should blame the lines and not the provider :-)20:24
fabrice_spsupposed to be 14Mb (because of the attenuation and the noise of the line), but I only have 7Mb...20:25
slytherinRoAkSoAx: Telefonica as in Telefonica Mexico?20:29
RoAkSoAxslytherin, as in Telefonica del Peru :)20:29
slytherinoh20:29
RoAkSoAxfabrice_sp|web, lucky you, I have 1Mb :(20:34
fabrice_sp|webRoAkSoAx, well: 4 losts of connectivity in half an hour... I prefer having 1 stable Mb than 7 Mb unstable...20:37
RoAkSoAxfabrice_sp|web, true, but my 1mb is not stable either :( that's something that you have to live with if you live in a third world country :S20:38
fabrice_sp_RoAkSoAx: not good, no... But if you compare Spain with France on ADSL topics, Spain is 'Third World country' also...20:41
fabrice_sp_(or Japan :-) )20:42
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fabrice_spanyway: it's a bit OT... :)20:43
RoAkSoAxfabrice_sp, I see, but at least you have speeds higher than 5Mb, which is the maximum here (And for residential connections is 2.5Mb). And yes, Japan rocks on Internet Speed.20:45
pochuJapan simply rocks :)20:46
pochuexcept on suicides ;)20:46
RoAkSoAxpochu, haha that's the same thing that my friend tells me. People suicide a lot because of so much pressure they have in their jobs20:47
fabrice_spRoAkSoAx, the ADSL lines we have where I work have a maximum speed of 1Mb, even if we bought a 'up to 20 Mb' lines. So it's not only in Peru ;-)20:49
fabrice_spHey: Only Spanish people this afternoon :-)20:49
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fabrice_spSpanish speaking, I mean20:50
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pochuTelefonica EspaƱa is pretty good, but pretty expensive too20:52
pochuand the funniest thing is that sending an sms to another european country is cheaper than sending it to my city20:53
RoAkSoAxhere Telefonica del Peru is pretty much the only option for internet access. There's also telmex but is less reliable than telefonica.20:55
fabrice_sppochu, I personally had bad experience with Telefonica, so got rid of them. Anyway: when you see that in France all small towns have at least a 'up to 20Mb' internet access, and in 'big city', you have 'up to 50Mb', with European call included :-/20:56
fabrice_spRoAkSoAx, it' just a matter of time :-) Competency will come20:56
bitplaneI have a suggestion, not sure where to make it20:59
fabrice_spbitplane, you can't be more OT than we are right now :-)20:59
bitplanehaha okay20:59
bitplanewell I'm toying with making a property page thing for nautilus21:00
bitplaneand the easiest method seems to be to use nautilus-python and do it that way21:00
bitplaneso I was thinking I'd make my thumbnailer dump a list of key value pairs, INI file style to stdout21:01
bitplaneand make a generic python property page maker which calls an external program to generate the list of properties21:02
bitplaneso it calls "my-thumbnailer --properties file.ext" and uses that21:03
bitplaneso.. does this sound like a good idea, if so, how would I go about getting such a thing included?21:04
bitplanein fact, if it was a generic one it wouldn't have to use the python-nautilus package21:05
fabrice_spbitplane, about the good/bad idea, I don't have any opinion on it :-) And to include such a thing, you have to package it21:06
fabrice_sp!package21:06
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about package21:06
bitplanei guess my suggestion is different from my proposed implementation, suggestion is to make making extra property pages as easy as adding a thumbnailer (should I be asking about this in a gnome channel instead?)21:07
fabrice_spbitplane, this channel is more about packaging, that is how to include things in Ubuntu21:07
bitplanefabrice_sp, I also want to package a few things, so pointing me at some packaging docs would also be cool :)21:07
fabrice_spI'm lloking for it (as ubottu does not know about packaging)21:08
fabrice_sp!packaging21:08
ubottuThe packaging guide is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment - See also !backports21:08
fabrice_sp?21:08
fabrice_spyesssss21:08
bitplanefantastic, thanks :)21:08
fabrice_sp;-)21:08
bitplanewould it make more sense to package my app and its dependencies for Debian and have it propagate to Ubuntu?21:09
fabrice_spIt's always better to go through Debian, as more distribution will make use of it21:10
fabrice_spbut sometime, it's not possible21:10
bitplanethanks, I'll read all the docs and come back with questions if I get stuck :)21:13
bitplane(or more likely, when I get stuck!)21:13
fabrice_spperfect :-)21:14
RoAkSoAxvorian, ping?21:32
nxvlnorsetto: i'm finishing to check source-highlight-qt-0.1, did you want me to upload it, or just advocate21:39
nxvlnorsetto: i need to do a final test and i'm finish, until now everything looks good21:40
norsettonxvl, if you want to upload that would be nice ;-)21:40
nxvlnorsetto: ok21:40
nxvlnorsetto: btw, how is everything going, long time without seeing you21:41
norsettonxvl, if you want to test, there are some sources in /usr/share/doc/libsource-highlight-qt-doc/examples you can use21:42
norsettonxvl, fine and dandy, and you?21:42
nxvlnorsetto: good, traveling too much, and with less free time everytime21:44
nxvlnorsetto: but everything going smooth21:44
norsettonxvl: globetrotting ... in few years you will hate traveling, believe me ;-)21:45
nxvlnorsetto: mm, i'm not getting a -doc package, just commented on revu21:45
nxvlnorsetto: i ALREADY hate traveling21:45
nxvlnorsetto: but it's a funny loop, i started liking it, then hated it, now i just don't care21:46
norsettonxvl, well, you must be doing something wrong then, its called libsource-highlight-qt4-doc21:46
nxvlthis saturday will be 2 weeks sleeping away from home, in 3 different cities21:47
nxvli just did sbuild -c karmic source-highlight-qt_0.1-0ubuntu1.dsc21:47
nxvland didn't get any -doc binary21:48
Laneyyou need -A21:48
Laneyi bet21:48
norsettonxvl, what did you get?21:48
nxvl-1 and -dev21:48
Laneyto build arch:all with sbuild21:48
nxvli pasted the ls on revu21:48
nxvltrying that21:49
nxvlit might be an issue with arch, sounds reasonable21:49
norsettonxvl, actually, don't upload, I want to change the -1 dep on source-highlight to a Suggests21:53
nxvlnorsetto: ok, will advocate it when i re-test the build21:53
norsettonxvl, muchas gracias21:54
nxvlnow i'm getting the -doc21:54
nxvlit was an arch issue21:54
nxvladvocating21:54
norsettofor revu packages, IIRC, one is supposed to forward the archive's acceptance email to the ubuntu-motu m.l.?22:01
geseryes22:05
* sebner waves at norsetto nxvl and geser :D22:09
* geser waves back22:09
* norsetto waves22:09
porthoseis banshee going to be the default media player in karmic?22:27
dtchenit doesn't look likely presently.22:29
porthosedtchen, ty22:29
dtchenporthose: directhex would be the person to ask22:30
porthosedtchen, I will :)22:30
TheMusoslytherin: I think they patched around the issue in the latest glibc upload.22:38
andvnorsetto, only if the package is NEW of course22:50
andvnorsetto, if you use REVU for new upstream releases you don't need to22:50
norsettothx andv22:50
andvnp22:51
directhexahoy there, fancy pants22:51
porthosedirecthex, is banshee going to be the default media player in karmic?22:52
directhexporthose, no. banshee upstream will not commit to a stable release within an ubuntu-friendly timeline, so the desktop team feel safer sticking with the status quo for now. the decision can be re-evaluated for lazy lynx22:53
porthosedirecthex, ok ty22:53
StevenKLazy Lynx, you say?22:57
directhexStevenK, i'm using up all the names i don't like in public, in the hope that shuttleworth is forced into a corner in picking the remaining name!23:00
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