[00:28] <kwah> Hi all
[00:28] <kwah> Are there howto's on how to package a number of software pieces at once?
[00:29] <kwah> For example, I am packaging A and B
[00:29] <kwah> B should build-depend on A
[00:29] <kwah> What would be the way to proceed with chroot-ed environments etc?
[00:31] <dtchen> kwah: there are ways to accomplish that via pbuilder, sbuild, schroot, etc.
[00:33] <kwah> I guess there should be, of course.
[00:33] <kwah> Do I need a sort of local repo in chroot-ed env then?
[00:34] <dtchen> kwah: that's certainly one way to accomplish it. you could also just cp the newly built build-dependencies into the schroot.
[00:36] <kwah> And what about pbuilder? I build package A, put it into some-repo, update what is in chroot... Biuild package B?
[00:37] <dtchen> kwah: yes, same basic procedure regardless of chroot method
[00:37]  * kwah tries to find his way around all this new things
[00:38] <kwah> thanks, dtchen
[01:53] <stochastic> Can anyone revu ANY of these packages http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/xwax     http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/a2jmidid    http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/xjadeo     http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/slv2   ( http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/pyphat would also be nice)
[01:59] <YokoZar> stochastic: I think we're behind on the sponsorship/revu queue because dholbach is on vacation and most of the canonical people are at a Sprint
[02:00] <YokoZar> I'll try and get a tackle on some of it myself soon if I can
[02:01] <stochastic> YokoZar, ahh, that explains things, thanks.  I look forward to any comments/advocations you may have, but I'll sit pretty until the Sprint is over (when is that anyway?)
[02:01] <YokoZar> I think they're a week long
[02:39] <pace_t_zulu> vorian: you around?
[02:43] <vorian> pace_t_zulu: yes sir
[02:43] <pace_t_zulu> vorian: any word on open-vm-tools?
[02:43] <vorian> just got around to giving it the nod
[02:43] <vorian> good find on that one
[02:43] <vorian> :)
[02:45] <pace_t_zulu> vorian: yea, thanks... i'm a little iffy about the amd4 build
[02:45] <pace_t_zulu> the i386 version is fine
[02:45] <vorian> i'm amd64
[02:45] <vorian> it's fine
[02:47] <pace_t_zulu> ok, it's my vm then
[02:48] <pace_t_zulu> no problem, if it builds and there are problems with the package, we can fix them
[02:48] <pace_t_zulu> it's been FTBFS for months
[02:48] <vorian> true enough
[02:48] <pace_t_zulu> this is better... give it time before oct. 29
[02:49] <vorian> very much so
[02:49] <pace_t_zulu> vorian: you been motu for a while?
[02:50] <vorian> yeah
[02:50] <vorian> twice even :P
[03:03] <pace_t_zulu> vorian: cool
[11:31] <didrocks> StevenK: thanks for closing the bug manually. As I opened it after having on the package, I forgot to put the number in the changelog
[11:31] <StevenK> didrocks: No worries :-)
[12:26] <Laney> urgh
[12:26] <Laney> trying to merge cdbs, not fun
[13:21] <artfwo> hi! does anyone know what's the problem with REVU (dput)? It just gives me an error: "425 Security: Bad IP connecting." for anything I try to upload
[14:54] <slytherin> asac: Nice to see gnome-bluetooth being considered for main inclusion. :-)
[15:04] <slytherin> NCommander: directhex: does either if you have access to armel box?
[15:04] <directhex> i don't. i got arm working in qemu once if that helps
[15:30] <slytherin> directhex: will it be able to replicate a build failure seen on armel buildd?
[15:46] <directhex> slytherin, depends on what kind of failure it is. arm can be pretty sensitive to different host CPUs
[15:47] <slytherin> directhex: the failure is because the javadoc takes too long on armel and hence build process times out.
[16:06] <bddebian> Heya gang
[19:22] <TheMuso> slytherin: Looks like we have powerpc again, there is now a big queue of rebuilds for powerpc.
[19:22] <slytherin> Figured that looking at the powerpc binary of modemmanager in queue. So is it now going to be a mass rebuilds?
[19:23] <TheMuso> Yes, there is 600 odd according to https://lauchpad.net/builders.
[19:25] <slytherin> TheMuso: Am I right that libc6 was held back so that the version that was causing problem in installation due to kernel check will be skipped and next version will be installed whenever it is built.
[20:12] <fabrice_sp> Hi. I'd like to provide a daily build of a package in a ppa. Is there some how-to? Or I have to make a local script that chain the 'uscan / uupdate / debuild -sa -S / dput' jobs?
[20:14] <slytherin> fabrice_sp: I believe someone from mozilla team is providing daily builds for xulrunner/firefox. Try talking with whoever the person is.
[20:14] <maxb_> It's fta and his scripts are in a bzr branch in his +junk
[20:14] <fabrice_sp> I saw fta in their ppa (it's for chromium)
[20:15] <fabrice_sp> I'll have a look. Thanks maxb_ !
[20:18] <mrooney> how might I turn a diff into a dpatch?
[20:19]  * fabrice_sp_ hates his ADSL provider! :-/
[20:20] <c_korn> mrooney: man dpatch -> Creating dpatch scriptlets
[20:20] <slytherin> mrooney: dpatch-edit-patch name.patch, patch -px < file.diff, exit (value of x as appropriate in your case).
[20:23] <RoAkSoAx> fabrice_sp, me too :) Telefonica?
[20:24] <fabrice_sp> RoAkSoAx, nop: Jazztel. But I think I should blame the lines and not the provider :-)
[20:25] <fabrice_sp> supposed to be 14Mb (because of the attenuation and the noise of the line), but I only have 7Mb...
[20:29] <slytherin> RoAkSoAx: Telefonica as in Telefonica Mexico?
[20:29] <RoAkSoAx> slytherin, as in Telefonica del Peru :)
[20:29] <slytherin> oh
[20:34] <RoAkSoAx> fabrice_sp|web, lucky you, I have 1Mb :(
[20:37] <fabrice_sp|web> RoAkSoAx, well: 4 losts of connectivity in half an hour... I prefer having 1 stable Mb than 7 Mb unstable...
[20:38] <RoAkSoAx> fabrice_sp|web, true, but my 1mb is not stable either :( that's something that you have to live with if you live in a third world country :S
[20:41] <fabrice_sp_> RoAkSoAx: not good, no... But if you compare Spain with France on ADSL topics, Spain is 'Third World country' also...
[20:42] <fabrice_sp_> (or Japan :-) )
[20:43] <fabrice_sp> anyway: it's a bit OT... :)
[20:45] <RoAkSoAx> fabrice_sp, I see, but at least you have speeds higher than 5Mb, which is the maximum here (And for residential connections is 2.5Mb). And yes, Japan rocks on Internet Speed.
[20:46] <pochu> Japan simply rocks :)
[20:46] <pochu> except on suicides ;)
[20:47] <RoAkSoAx> pochu, haha that's the same thing that my friend tells me. People suicide a lot because of so much pressure they have in their jobs
[20:49] <fabrice_sp> RoAkSoAx, the ADSL lines we have where I work have a maximum speed of 1Mb, even if we bought a 'up to 20 Mb' lines. So it's not only in Peru ;-)
[20:49] <fabrice_sp> Hey: Only Spanish people this afternoon :-)
[20:50] <fabrice_sp> Spanish speaking, I mean
[20:52] <pochu> Telefonica España is pretty good, but pretty expensive too
[20:53] <pochu> and the funniest thing is that sending an sms to another european country is cheaper than sending it to my city
[20:55] <RoAkSoAx> here Telefonica del Peru is pretty much the only option for internet access. There's also telmex but is less reliable than telefonica.
[20:56] <fabrice_sp> pochu, I personally had bad experience with Telefonica, so got rid of them. Anyway: when you see that in France all small towns have at least a 'up to 20Mb' internet access, and in 'big city', you have 'up to 50Mb', with European call included :-/
[20:56] <fabrice_sp> RoAkSoAx, it' just a matter of time :-) Competency will come
[20:59] <bitplane> I have a suggestion, not sure where to make it
[20:59] <fabrice_sp> bitplane, you can't be more OT than we are right now :-)
[20:59] <bitplane> haha okay
[21:00] <bitplane> well I'm toying with making a property page thing for nautilus
[21:00] <bitplane> and the easiest method seems to be to use nautilus-python and do it that way
[21:01] <bitplane> so I was thinking I'd make my thumbnailer dump a list of key value pairs, INI file style to stdout
[21:02] <bitplane> and make a generic python property page maker which calls an external program to generate the list of properties
[21:03] <bitplane> so it calls "my-thumbnailer --properties file.ext" and uses that
[21:04] <bitplane> so.. does this sound like a good idea, if so, how would I go about getting such a thing included?
[21:05] <bitplane> in fact, if it was a generic one it wouldn't have to use the python-nautilus package
[21:06] <fabrice_sp> bitplane, about the good/bad idea, I don't have any opinion on it :-) And to include such a thing, you have to package it
[21:06] <fabrice_sp> !package
[21:07] <bitplane> i guess my suggestion is different from my proposed implementation, suggestion is to make making extra property pages as easy as adding a thumbnailer (should I be asking about this in a gnome channel instead?)
[21:07] <fabrice_sp> bitplane, this channel is more about packaging, that is how to include things in Ubuntu
[21:07] <bitplane> fabrice_sp, I also want to package a few things, so pointing me at some packaging docs would also be cool :)
[21:08] <fabrice_sp> I'm lloking for it (as ubottu does not know about packaging)
[21:08] <fabrice_sp> !packaging
[21:08] <fabrice_sp> ?
[21:08] <fabrice_sp> yesssss
[21:08] <bitplane> fantastic, thanks :)
[21:08] <fabrice_sp> ;-)
[21:09] <bitplane> would it make more sense to package my app and its dependencies for Debian and have it propagate to Ubuntu?
[21:10] <fabrice_sp> It's always better to go through Debian, as more distribution will make use of it
[21:10] <fabrice_sp> but sometime, it's not possible
[21:13] <bitplane> thanks, I'll read all the docs and come back with questions if I get stuck :)
[21:13] <bitplane> (or more likely, when I get stuck!)
[21:14] <fabrice_sp> perfect :-)
[21:32] <RoAkSoAx> vorian, ping?
[21:39] <nxvl> norsetto: i'm finishing to check source-highlight-qt-0.1, did you want me to upload it, or just advocate
[21:40] <nxvl> norsetto: i need to do a final test and i'm finish, until now everything looks good
[21:40] <norsetto> nxvl, if you want to upload that would be nice ;-)
[21:40] <nxvl> norsetto: ok
[21:41] <nxvl> norsetto: btw, how is everything going, long time without seeing you
[21:42] <norsetto> nxvl, if you want to test, there are some sources in /usr/share/doc/libsource-highlight-qt-doc/examples you can use
[21:42] <norsetto> nxvl, fine and dandy, and you?
[21:44] <nxvl> norsetto: good, traveling too much, and with less free time everytime
[21:44] <nxvl> norsetto: but everything going smooth
[21:45] <norsetto> nxvl: globetrotting ... in few years you will hate traveling, believe me ;-)
[21:45] <nxvl> norsetto: mm, i'm not getting a -doc package, just commented on revu
[21:45] <nxvl> norsetto: i ALREADY hate traveling
[21:46] <nxvl> norsetto: but it's a funny loop, i started liking it, then hated it, now i just don't care
[21:46] <norsetto> nxvl, well, you must be doing something wrong then, its called libsource-highlight-qt4-doc
[21:47] <nxvl> this saturday will be 2 weeks sleeping away from home, in 3 different cities
[21:47] <nxvl> i just did sbuild -c karmic source-highlight-qt_0.1-0ubuntu1.dsc
[21:48] <nxvl> and didn't get any -doc binary
[21:48] <Laney> you need -A
[21:48] <Laney> i bet
[21:48] <norsetto> nxvl, what did you get?
[21:48] <nxvl> -1 and -dev
[21:48] <Laney> to build arch:all with sbuild
[21:48] <nxvl> i pasted the ls on revu
[21:49] <nxvl> trying that
[21:49] <nxvl> it might be an issue with arch, sounds reasonable
[21:53] <norsetto> nxvl, actually, don't upload, I want to change the -1 dep on source-highlight to a Suggests
[21:53] <nxvl> norsetto: ok, will advocate it when i re-test the build
[21:54] <norsetto> nxvl, muchas gracias
[21:54] <nxvl> now i'm getting the -doc
[21:54] <nxvl> it was an arch issue
[21:54] <nxvl> advocating
[22:01] <norsetto> for revu packages, IIRC, one is supposed to forward the archive's acceptance email to the ubuntu-motu m.l.?
[22:05] <geser> yes
[22:09]  * sebner waves at norsetto nxvl and geser :D
[22:09]  * geser waves back
[22:09]  * norsetto waves
[22:27] <porthose> is banshee going to be the default media player in karmic?
[22:29] <dtchen> it doesn't look likely presently.
[22:29] <porthose> dtchen, ty
[22:30] <dtchen> porthose: directhex would be the person to ask
[22:30] <porthose> dtchen, I will :)
[22:38] <TheMuso> slytherin: I think they patched around the issue in the latest glibc upload.
[22:50] <andv> norsetto, only if the package is NEW of course
[22:50] <andv> norsetto, if you use REVU for new upstream releases you don't need to
[22:50] <norsetto> thx andv
[22:51] <andv> np
[22:51] <directhex> ahoy there, fancy pants
[22:52] <porthose> directhex, is banshee going to be the default media player in karmic?
[22:53] <directhex> porthose, no. banshee upstream will not commit to a stable release within an ubuntu-friendly timeline, so the desktop team feel safer sticking with the status quo for now. the decision can be re-evaluated for lazy lynx
[22:53] <porthose> directhex, ok ty
[22:57] <StevenK> Lazy Lynx, you say?
[23:00] <directhex> StevenK, i'm using up all the names i don't like in public, in the hope that shuttleworth is forced into a corner in picking the remaining name!