[02:03] <jimi_hendrix> is there a kde client?
[02:42] <dobey> jimi_hendrix: there isn't a kde-specific client yet, no. the "applet" in the gnome client will work under kde though
[02:42] <jimi_hendrix> i know
[02:42] <jimi_hendrix> but i have OCD about my desktop
[03:03] <dobey> jimi_hendrix: we'd also be glad to take patches :)
[05:07] <lamalex> how is the contacts jawn coming?
[05:07] <lamalex> will we see some stuff for karmic?
[09:17] <aquarius> lamalex, hope so, yes. :)
[11:47] <statik> python-desktopcouch is now in universe, hurrah! install it and try out the CouchWidget
[13:42] <jdo> This is in my syncdaemon log: <AQErrorState CAPABILITIES_MISMATCH>}
[13:49] <sladen> dobey et al: can you retag  bug #375335 -> ubunet
[13:54] <dobey> sladen: are you not able to do that?
[13:56] <sladen> dobey: nope, because it has a milestone attached and  bug #384309
[13:57] <sladen> dobey: and I'm not uber enough  (otherwise I would have repointed all of those ubunetonly tagged bugs ages ago)
[14:01] <dobey> oh
[14:47] <CardinalFang> Does anyone have suggestions about the best netbook?  UI is important to me, foremost (keyboard not wonky, two+ mouse butttons, legible screen), and then battery life is next most important.
[14:48] <dobey> i don't do netbooks
[14:48] <CardinalFang> Okay.  Thank you.
[14:48] <dobey> they are too big
[14:49] <CardinalFang> :)  My old TI92 won't load the CD.  I tried.
[14:49] <dobey> CDs? usb flash install is where it's at
[14:50] <CardinalFang> My Ti predates USP spec, sadly.
[14:50] <dobey> my fujitsu u820 is probably smaller than your ti anyway
[14:56] <rmcbride> CardinalFang: I'm pretty pleased with my lenovo s10 so far, but I'd be sorely tempted by the ASUS with the touch screen that''s in the pipe
[14:57] <rmcbride> CardinalFang: I'd definitely go for the bigger battery for the S10 though, as it ships with a 3 cell
[14:57] <rmcbride> as most do by default in the states :/
[14:58] <dobey> my u820 is awesome
[14:59] <dobey> but the keyboard is indeed wonky
[14:59] <dobey> and the video chipset is pain, and the wireless is aetheros fail
[14:59] <urbanape> Anyone got a System 76 netbook?
[15:00] <jblount> urbanape: I thought they only made those things that look like tanks
[15:00] <jblount> MEETING BEGINS
[15:00] <jblount> 'Allo hackers and engineers (you pick which title you prefer). We're going to have a bit of a standup, if you want to document your progress on Desktop(+) stuff, a response of "me" would be the best idea.
[15:00] <dobey> is it 10 already
[15:00] <CardinalFang> Hrm, Lenovo doesn't make it easy to buy non-Windows boxes.
[15:00] <urbanape> they seem to have a few under 12" now
[15:00] <CardinalFang> me
[15:00] <urbanape> me
[15:00] <dobey> motion to suspend
[15:00] <jblount> \me
[15:01] <dobey> me
[15:01] <jblount> aquarius, vds, statik ?
[15:01] <aquarius> me
[15:01] <vds> me
[15:02] <jblount> CardinalFang: You're the man now dog
[15:03] <CardinalFang> DONE: Got Paste/Spawning working, but can't get spawning to shut down with "make stop".  :(  Social-networking d-c schema v1, maybe.
[15:03] <CardinalFang> TODO: Smack Spawning around some.  Finish Gwibber account desktopcouchification.
[15:03] <CardinalFang> BLOCKED: None
[15:03] <CardinalFang> urbanape, git your dance on!
[15:03] <urbanape> DONE: submitted a branch that starts to YUI3-ify the new files UI.
[15:03] <urbanape> TODO: Tackle some bindwood issues.
[15:03] <urbanape> BLOCK: None
[15:03] <urbanape> jblount: you're up.
[15:03] <jblount> DONE: struggle getting branches done, trying to sort out what exactly I can still accomplish before W15 is up
[15:03] <jblount> TODO: Ruthlessly kill bugs. Trying to sort out the last few steps neccessary to get /files/new/ moved to /files/
[15:03] <jblount> BLOCKED: Rollout (trying to sort out weird truncating / file name not showing up at /files/new/ )
[15:03] <jblount> dobey: was his name-0
[15:03] <dobey> ☭ DONE: Created lptools project and published code, Fixed #406219, #378707, #376687
[15:03] <dobey> ☭ TODO: #377526, #376687, Tarmac AMI
[15:03] <dobey> ☭ BLCK: 1.0a on server side (pending oauth.py upstream 1.0a patch approval)
[15:03] <dobey> aquarius: comrade!
[15:04] <aquarius> ⚀ DONE: desktopcouch startup; planning meeting for contacts with joshuahoover, mattgriffin, thisfred; add the mocker to desktopcouch
[15:04] <aquarius> ⚁ TODO: piston oauth in snowy; learn about process groups; branch to do desktopcouch startup; couchdb may upgrade erlang requirement beyond hardy, talk to people
[15:04] <aquarius> ⚂ BLOCKED: none
[15:04] <aquarius> gimme a v! gimme a d! gimme an s! what's that spell? vds!
[15:04] <vds> DONE: testing FX deploymnet, fixing issues with snapshot, repackaged testresources and testtools for hardy, landaed funambol_cared branch
[15:04] <vds> TODO: continue fixing snapshot problems, continue with the deployment of fx
[15:04] <vds> BLOCKED: nope
[15:04] <vds> no one else?
[15:04]  * CardinalFang hugs stand-up meetings.
[15:04] <jblount> CardinalFang: +1 (for both hugs, and standups)
[15:04] <jblount> MEETING ENDS (if you didn't get a turn, we'd love to hear from you, feel free to paste any time today :)
[15:07] <CardinalFang> So, Lenovo == MSFT Windows?
[15:08] <jblount> CardinalFang: When I bought that thinkpad, yes.
[15:08] <jblount> I don't think they are shipping anything but Windows now.
[15:09] <CardinalFang> I'm looking to ship something to my mom.  I ain't supporting Windows.
[15:09] <urbanape_> jblount: http://system76.com/product_info.php?cPath=28&products_id=92
[15:12] <jblount> urbanape_: huh, that looks ok, I guess. Their full sized laptops are pretty clunky.
[15:14] <urbanape_> I'll just be a fanboi and get a mac tablet.
[15:15] <jblount> Heh, my wife is ready to trade in her MacBook for one as soon as it's available.
[15:15] <urbanape_> man, twitter's down. What will keep me occupied today (I mean, besides work, obviously)?
[15:19] <aquarius> urbanape_ is the API down as well? I haven't checked.
[15:19] <urbanape_> seems to be back up.
[15:19] <statik> CardinalFang, i have a toshiba nb205 netbook i bought on the weekend
[15:20] <statik> claims 9 hours of battery life, has a fantastic webcam
[15:20] <statik> sound doesn't work, video and suspend are great though
[15:20] <statik> keyboard is ok but not great
[15:25] <jblount> dobey: Do you know why the client /syncdaemon don't get pretty icons when I'm looking at system monitor » processes ?
[15:25] <dobey> syncdaemon is supposed to be headless
[15:25] <dobey> client should get one though, don't know why it's not
[15:26] <jblount> Like a bug?
[15:27] <dobey> could be
[15:27] <dobey> i have no idea how that thing works exactly
[15:28] <jblount> Heh, I meant, "Would you like me to report a bug". Abbreviation fail :)
[15:34] <dobey> if you want to debug it and figure it out
[15:35] <dobey> otherwise it's low/wishlist/waylaterthanlater
[15:39] <statik> almostneverbutifeelbadsayingdon'treportit
[15:42] <dobey> heh
[16:17] <jblount> My internet is slow today
[16:21] <lukisi> I'm new to ubuntuone
[16:22] <lukisi> how do I keep in synch my local folder "~/Ubuntu One/My Files" ?
[16:23] <jblount> lukisi: Hi! I'm not sure I follow your question, the folder "~/Ubuntu One/My Files" should keep it self in sync. Have you placed any files into this folder?
[16:23] <lukisi> Ah, thanks.
[16:23] <lukisi> So I guesdd my problem is...
[16:23] <lukisi> that the icon in the tray
[16:24] <lukisi> still says "Connecting"
[16:24] <lukisi> It's not the normal behaviour... is it?
[16:24] <jblount> lukisi: Did it ever open your web browser for you? You should have had to click a button that says "Add my computer" at some point.
[16:24] <verterok> lukisi: could you pastebin the output of tail -n 100 ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon.log ?
[16:25]  * jblount hugs verterok 
[16:25] <verterok> jblount: I'm the Face today ;)
[16:26] <jblount> Even better! I have a question :)
[16:27] <lukisi> jblount: Yes. I added my computer through the web interface.
[16:27] <lukisi> verterok: now I pastebin...
[16:28] <verterok> jblount: shoot
[16:28] <jblount> verterok: I'm using the nightlighs ppa and have a bunch of "Capabilities mismatch" in my syncdaemon log. Is this because we haven't done a server rollout in a while?
[16:29] <verterok> jblount: yeap, we need a new-ish server :/
[16:29] <jblount> verterok: I thought so. Don't worry, pfibiger and mthaddon will give us a new one soon!
[16:32] <verterok> jblount: it's because the client is requesting the no-content capability, but the sever don;t know how to handle that
[16:33] <lukisi> http://pastebin.ca/1520589 is my syncdaemon... I have also a syncdaemon-exception...
[16:34] <lukisi> http://pastebin.ca/1520590 this is my syncdaemon-exception.log
[16:34] <verterok> lukisi: so, the syncdaemon it's connected, looks like a bug in the applet
[16:34] <verterok> lukisi: sorry, it's not connected :/
[16:34] <verterok> lukisi: could you try to disconnect it?
[16:35] <lukisi> and then re-connect?
[16:35] <verterok> lukisi: yes
[16:35] <lukisi> It sais scanning and then working.
[16:35] <verterok> lukisi: ok, so it should be connected now
[16:35] <lukisi> Now it is "idle"
[16:36] <verterok> lukisi: that's good! try adding/changing files :)
[16:36] <lukisi> When changing from working to idle the icon were changing its size with a ugly effect in the tray... :P
[16:37] <verterok> lukisi: could you bzip the full log file and upload to a bug, I'm looking for the bugnum
[16:37] <verterok> lukisi: there is a bug for that icon size thingy, let me find that too
[16:41] <verterok> lukisi: I can't find the icon resize bug, would you mind to file a bug about it?
[16:41] <lukisi> verterok: I created a tar.bz2 from the logs
[16:41] <lukisi> now do I must go in launchpad?
[16:42] <lukisi> or do I use the "report problem" button in ubuntuone.com ?
[16:42] <verterok> lukisi: use the report problem button :)
[16:44] <lukisi> 377524... it seems the same problem to me.
[16:44] <verterok> lukisi: ok, attach it there :)
[16:45] <verterok> lukisi: thanks!
[16:45] <lukisi> uhm.. no. it is not.
[16:46] <lukisi> ok... 402144 is the same.
[16:48] <lukisi> verterok: added the logs to the bug. thanks. bye bye
[16:48] <verterok> lukisi: thanks!
[16:56] <verterok> #402144
[16:58] <jblount> bug #402144
[16:58] <jblount> verterok: ubottu, she's no hal.
[16:59] <verterok> jblount: thanks :)
[17:43] <statik> dobey, can you add a context menu to the nautilus plugin for ubuntu one that copies the URL to a file to the clipboard?
[17:44] <statik> this will only work for people who you have shared the files with, but we can make a really nice access denied page on the updown server that explains sharing, etc.
[17:45] <statik> and then when we have public sharing the access denied page will just go away
[17:46] <aquarius> when we have public sharing *and the file is publically shared* the page will go away
[17:46] <statik> yes yes
[17:47] <statik> this will allow team of people like an ubuntu loco or something to have a common share and easily trade links to specific files. for example if people are collaborating on artwork and design objects
[17:47] <aquarius> *nod* which will be great.
[18:00] <verterok> jblount: could you take a look to bug #402150?
[18:01] <dobey> err
[18:01] <dobey> statik: i don't think the desktop client (syncdaemon) knows the url to the files
[18:05] <Chipaca> it should be able to deduce it from the node id
[18:05] <Chipaca> statik: right?
[18:07] <dobey> don't ask statik, he's a manager. he wouldn't know! :)
[18:07] <dobey> his answer is "yeah, sure, sounds good, do it"
[18:07] <Chipaca> except he's not *my* manager :-D
[18:08] <dobey> heh
[18:08] <dobey> so i've managed to get the character count on top of the spinny "posting your post" thing on twitter
[18:08] <dobey> lovely.
[18:08] <dobey> (it's not posting my post :()
[18:10] <dobey> oh well
[18:12] <dobey> hrmm
[18:13] <dobey> so i think the "wobbling" icon thing isn't actually ubuntuone
[18:13] <jblount> dobey: Who do you plan on blaming?
[18:14] <dobey> jblount: i don't know. i can't actually force it to happen, and the ONE time i ever saw anything remotely like it, it was like a new icon was added to the tray and immediately removed, though there wasn't an actual icon, just a black bar that was like 1-2px wide
[18:16] <jblount> dobey: I see it nearly every day, I could force it. I wonder if you don't see it because of the high rez displays you prefer.
[18:16] <dobey> no
[18:16] <dobey> my desktop computer isn't 300dpi
[18:16] <dobey> and even on my 300dpi laptop, i can still see 1px differences :)
[18:17] <dobey> i don't keep the client running because it's the piece i develop, though
[18:17] <dobey> if you have a way to actually force the behavior, please comment on the bug about it
[18:17] <jblount> That's fair. The only time I don't have it running is when it's borked (like now until we get a rollout done)
[18:17] <jblount> dobey: Is there a master bug for that problem?
[18:18] <dobey> probably
[18:18] <dobey> bug #396719
[18:37] <dobey> hrmm, i guess twitter is only working for the other side of the atlantic or something
[18:37] <dobey> twitterDDoS nice
[20:55] <dobey> sladen: hey. i just made "probabledup" an official tag on ubuntuone-client. if you think any bugs are probably a dup, but can't immediately find the bug, please add the tag :)
[20:59] <verterok> dobey: I think there it's a dupe: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client/+bug/403057
[21:02] <dobey> verterok: add the tag :)
[21:02] <verterok> dobey: done
[21:03] <jblount> dobey: good idea (although the tag is hard to read)
[21:03] <dobey> jblount: not as hard to read as all the bugs with the syncdaemon.log pasted in the description
[21:04] <dobey> jblount: and you just type "pro" and it will autocomplete anyway
[21:04] <jblount> dobey: Fair, you win.
[21:04] <dobey> also on the bugs list page, there are links for all the 'official' tags, in the right hand side menu box thingy
[21:05]  * verterok kicks launchpad
[21:05] <verterok> LP it's crawling :(
[21:20] <jblount> Oh gosh, I wish that Thunderbird obeyed my default browser setting.
[21:22] <jblount> Also: I'm going to have a very good day when I can mark all the bugs that the new ui fixes as "fix released". Very good.
[21:26] <urbanape> we'll get there.
[21:26] <urbanape> bit by bit
[21:28] <dobey> i wish i didn't get so damn much e-mail
[21:29] <urbanape> just a filter away.
[21:29] <dobey> yeah, i need to fix my filter to do some crazy regex stuff
[21:29] <dobey> i haven't had time to do it yet :(
[23:31] <akoumjian> Does ubuntuone currently support symbolic links?
[23:37] <sladen> dobey: groovy
[23:46] <rapha> hey
[23:47] <rapha> my ubuntu one icon doesnt stop spinning anymore
[23:47] <rapha> what's wrong?
[23:53] <sladen> can somebody make  bug #354502   public pls
[23:57] <sladen> anyway, (hidden) 354502 is probably a dup of bug #407268