[00:01] <Quintasan> Do I have to pull *.udeb from launchpad if I want to install karmics kernel under jaunty?
[00:17] <jiri> Hi, how to add this key - http://ppa.launchpad.net/xorg-edgers/ppa/ubuntu/dists/jaunty/Release.gpg
[00:18] <jiri> hm, problem solved :)
[00:22] <peij> Hi. I can't have sound on flash videos while amarok is opened. I heard that this is a pulseaudio/alsa conflic. How can I make them work together ?
[00:22] <peij> conflict*
[00:30] <danilo_> hg
[00:41] <yeoj>  I just plugged in a USB mass storage device, and is shows up in dmesg, how can i tell what sd device it is?
[00:51] <BluesKaj> yeoj, lsusb
[00:52] <yeoj> BluesKaj: but that doesn't have a /dev/??? that i can mount?
[00:52] <yeoj> BluesKaj: i see my device
[00:53] <yeoj> BluesKaj: i can see its on bus 001 device 006
[00:59] <raindog> Can you add a network folder to the places sidebar in Dolphin?
[01:00] <BluesKaj> yeoj, just try : mount it might show up
[01:01] <BluesKaj> raindog, yes i think so , altho i havent tried
[01:04] <BluesKaj> raindog, i just open the the network place
[01:07] <BiGDaDDy84> Hello. I have two 120 GB SATA drives on RAID 0 with Win XP and a separate 30 GB HDD with Kubuntu. Can someone help me mount the RAID so I can access Windows files from Linux?
[01:09] <BluesKaj> !raid | BiGDaDDy84
[01:11]  * BiGDaDDy84 is a linux newbie
[01:11] <BiGDaDDy84> I don't see anything there that could help
[01:12] <roffe_> does anyone know how to install nouveau?
[01:13] <BluesKaj> BiGDaDDy84, my raid chops are pretty slim , but just try the ' mount ' command in the terminal , then may be I might be able to help
[01:14] <BiGDaDDy84> BluesKaj: so just type mount? no flags no parameters?
[01:15] <BluesKaj> roffe_, what's nouveau
[01:15] <BluesKaj> BiGDaDDy84, just mount
[01:15] <BiGDaDDy84> ok 1 sec
[01:16] <BluesKaj> BiGDaDDy84, then pastebin the output
[01:16] <BiGDaDDy84> BluesKaj: http://pastebin.com/d20088795
[01:16] <roffe_> BluesKaj: Nouveau is an open-source driver for Nvidia cards
[01:18] <BluesKaj> BiGDaDDy84, does raid0 look at both drives as one ?
[01:18] <BiGDaDDy84> BluesKaj: yes.
[01:18] <BluesKaj> roffe_, which nvidia card ?
[01:19] <BluesKaj> BiGDaDDy84, ok install ntfs-3g
[01:19] <BluesKaj> !ntfs-3g
[01:19] <roffe_> BluesKaj: All Nvidia cards... but my particular card is a 8400m gs
[01:19] <roffe_> an
[01:20] <BiGDaDDy84> BluesKaj: ok one minute
[01:20] <BiGDaDDy84> BluesKaj: i already have ntfs-3g
[01:22] <BluesKaj> roffe_, your card is supported by the nvidia-glx-180 driver which was recently upgraded , have you done any apt upgrades lately ?
[01:22] <roffe_> BluesKaj: I doesn't work for anyone with this card
[01:25] <darthanubis> roffe_: same card I have. Works wonderfully
[01:25] <BluesKaj> roffe_, do you use a package manager or apt in the cli ?
[01:25] <BluesKaj> darthanubis, what works wonderfully ?
[01:26] <darthanubis> [20:12] <roffe_> does anyone know how to install nouveau?
[01:26] <darthanubis> I have not tried nouveau though
[01:26] <roffe_> darthanubis: There's a huge amount of people that can't get that card working well with the blob. Perhaps there's some difference with some cards
[01:26] <BluesKaj> BiGDaDDy84, have you run the ntfs configuration tool ?
[01:27] <roffe_> Nouveau, however, is at least a bit faster
[01:28] <BiGDaDDy84> BluesKaj: where is that located? what command?
[01:29] <alid> Can anybody please help me set a global keyboard shortcut to launch konsole from anywhere (kubuntu 9.04)?
[01:29] <zuz> hey, you guys know how to play flash in opera?
[01:29] <BluesKaj> BiGDaDDy84, kmenu/applications/system/ntfs configuration tool
[01:30] <zuz> alid is making it a widget in your taskbar an option?
[01:30] <zuz> for you i mean
[01:31] <alid> zuz: Unfortunately, I don't have much space in my taskbar. Actually, I want to set the key 'F12' to launch konsole for me from anywhere.
[01:31] <rafael> hey guys I got a question about smb. I'm trying to reach my windows files from ubuntu and I types windows IP address and I get prompt with user name, domain and password, I put the name and password correctly but i'm not sure about domain
[01:31] <BluesKaj> roffe_, then you have to uninstall the present driver and intstall the nouveau driver , in the terminal: sudo aptitude remove nvidi-glx-180 && sudo install xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
[01:31] <BluesKaj> oops lemme fix that roffe_
[01:31] <zuz> alid system settings/ keyboad and mouse global shortcut might help
[01:32] <rafael> i got my windows pc configure as a workgroup, I put the workgroup name in the domain space, but still didn't work
[01:32] <roffe_> BluesKaj: Is it sudo in kubuntu?
[01:32] <zuz> im not an expert but seems like thats a place
[01:32] <BluesKaj> roffe_, in the terminal : sudo aptitude remove nvidia-glx-180 && sudo install xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
[01:32] <BluesKaj> sudo is root permission
[01:32] <BluesKaj> !sudo
[01:33] <alid> zuz: I tried that, though I failed to find it. It was a pretty much straightforward action in older versions of KDE. I'm not sure where is the exact place in KDE 4.
[01:33] <roffe_> BluesKaj: thanks! How can I tell what driver I'm running now?(I've only used kde for about an hour)
[01:33] <BiGDaDDy84> BluesKaj: ok i ran the program
[01:33] <BluesKaj> roffe_, were you a gnome user before kde ?
[01:34] <roffe_> yes
[01:34] <BluesKaj> same driver , roffe_
[01:34] <zuz> alid try this then http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79560
[01:34] <roffe_> sure but I don't know what driver was installed when I started running kubuntu
[01:35] <BluesKaj> roffe. look in synaptic to see which nvidia driver is installed if you are worried , but almost 100% sure it's the 180
[01:35] <zuz> maybe that can help you
[01:36] <alid> zuz: Looks promising. Thank you! :)
[01:36] <zuz> ;)
[01:36] <rafael> can somebody help me with smb?
[01:37] <manikon> yes what's your problem ?
[01:37] <rafael> I'm trying to reach my windows files from ubuntu and I types windows IP address and I get prompt with user name, domain and password, I put the name and password correctly but i'm not sure about domain
[01:37] <rafael> i got my windows pc configure as a workgroup, I put the workgroup name in the domain space, but still didn't work
[01:37] <BluesKaj> roffe or you can do alt+f2 then type jockey-kde
[01:38] <rafael> it seems that i'm having problems with authentication
[01:39] <roffe_> BluesKaj: When i wrote sudo install xserver-xorg-video-nouveau it just gave me an error: install: missing destination file operand after `xserver-xorg-video-nouveau'
[01:39] <BluesKaj> rafael, the domain is the IP address of the pc you are trying to access
[01:39] <BluesKaj> roffe , do alt+f2 then type jockey-kde
[01:40] <dbc254> can't get a clear answer, what should my modem init string be?
[01:40] <roffe_> BluesKaj: yeah, I did that too, but it didn't offer me any drivers
[01:41] <BluesKaj> roffe_, what driver has the green dor beside it ?
[01:41] <BluesKaj> dot
[01:41] <roffe_> none
[01:41] <roffe_> there were no drivers
[01:41] <BiGDaDDy84> BluesKaj: I'll wait till you're done with roffe_
[01:41] <BluesKaj> roffe_, do you still have synaptic installed ?
[01:42] <roffe_> no, how do I find it?
[01:42] <julio> someone can tell me if is there a kmess channel?
[01:43] <BluesKaj> BiGDaDDy84, open dolphin and take alook at the "places" list on the left , there might be a ntfs drive listed there
[01:43] <BluesKaj> !pm | rafael
[01:44] <BiGDaDDy84> BluesKaj: negative.
[01:44] <rafael> ohh ok
[01:44] <rafael> yes i'm just trying to connect to my files on a windows xp using smb
[01:45] <rafael> it seems that i connect to the computer since it prompts me for username, domain and password
[01:45] <BluesKaj> BiGDaDDy84, do a : df -h in the terminal , pastebin the output
[01:46] <rafael> now, my pc is set in a workgroup so i though that instead of the domain name workgroup that it has by default, i should change it for my real workgroup name, so i did
[01:46] <rafael> but still is giving me the same authentication window
[01:46] <BluesKaj> rafael, , you have to have the files on windows "shared" in order to access them
[01:46] <roffe_> I didn't even know synaptic was on kubuntu.. how do I find it?
[01:46] <BluesKaj> roffe_, sudo aptitude install synaptic
[01:47] <rafael> so i'm wondering what should i put in the domain field, cause I checked and recreated the username and password in the PC
[01:47] <BiGDaDDy84> BluesKaj: http://pastebin.com/m57e1b1b3
[01:48] <roffe_> thanks BluesKaj
[01:49] <rafael> i do, well at least windows xp comes with a predifined shared folders
[01:49] <BluesKaj> BiGDaDDy84, try : sudo fdisk -l and pastebin that too
[01:50] <BiGDaDDy84> BluesKaj: http://pastebin.com/m608603a8
[01:51] <roffe_> trying to run synaptic, it says it's not installed... but i just did
[01:52] <BluesKaj> BiGDaDDy84, do you see the windows partition in the boot menu (grub) at startup ?
[01:52] <BiGDaDDy84> BluesKaj: yes, because I edited GRUB to include it
[01:53] <BluesKaj> roffe_, alt+f2 type synaptic
[01:53] <roffe_> nothing happens when I press enter
[01:53] <BluesKaj> BiGDaDDy84, can you access windows ?
[01:53] <BluesKaj> from the grub menu i mean
[01:54] <BiGDaDDy84> BluesKaj: yes.
[01:54] <roffe_> perhaps a restart would do the trick?
[01:54] <BluesKaj> ok, sounds like an fstab problem ...Anyone ??
[01:55] <BluesKaj> I'm not very good at fstab and mtab
[01:55] <BiGDaDDy84> BluesKaj:  if it helps here's my /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:55] <BiGDaDDy84> http://pastebin.com/m2def80d3
[01:56] <BluesKaj> roffe_, it's in the applications list , under system
[01:58] <BluesKaj> BiGDaDDy84, yeah that looks fine ,,,it's the ntfs-3g thatshoul help you access the windows drive but this raid stuff is a bit my scope, sinc eI don't have any experienc ewith it
[01:58] <BluesKaj> beyond my scope
[01:58] <BiGDaDDy84> BluesKaj: oh ok, I understand. Thanks though
[01:58] <BiGDaDDy84> BluesKaj: I think my Nvidia Nforce 4 RAID controller is not installed
[02:01] <roffe> synaptic doesn't work
[02:02] <darthanubis> uh boy
[02:04] <roffe> It says synaptic is not installed, so when I try to install it, it gives me:
[02:04] <roffe> Package synaptic is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[02:04] <roffe> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[02:04] <roffe> is only available from another source
[02:04] <roffe> E: Package synaptic has no installation candidate
[02:04] <FloodBotK2> roffe: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:05] <BluesKaj> roffe, look for a package manager in the   kmenu/ applications /system
[02:05] <roffe> Software management?
[02:06] <roffe> or I mean kpackagekit?
[02:08] <BluesKaj> software management ...kpackagekit is flaky
[02:09] <roffe> what shall i do there?
[02:09] <FloodBotK2> !netsplit
[02:09] <BluesKaj> BBIAB
[02:15] <roffe> any easy way to install ff 3.5?
[02:50] <david_> hi there
[02:51] <hackerx> hi
[02:51] <david_> look this may sound like a stupid question. i have courier and postfix installed. im trying to work out how if i get an email for say info@blah.com it gets forwarded to another user email?
[02:51] <david_> hi hackerx
[02:51] <cwraig> hi all, i just installed kubuntu and overnight it is copying my data to itself. It was all ok until the screen went blank and i pressed the keyboard to wake it back up and i got a mouse and a firefox window that i had open before but that is all thats on the screen, when i right clicked on the firefox window i was able to send it to "desktop 1" and it disappaered, how do i switch my screen back to desktop 1 cause there are no buttons sh
[02:51] <cwraig> own on desktop 2 for some reason?
[02:52] <hackerx> so firefox froze?
[02:53] <cwraig> hackerx, so it worked fine until i sent it to desktop 1
[02:53] <cwraig> and then it went like it should and i can only assume that i am looking at desktop 2
[02:54] <coreymon77> hi guys
[02:54] <cwraig> but when i right click on the blackness nothing happens but i can move the mouse around fine
[02:54] <coreymon77> i want to put a video on my ipod touch but dont have access to my mac laptop (meaning, no access to itunes), so, how would i go about doing this on my kubuntu box
[02:54] <hackerx> did you try to restart the x window system
[02:54] <cwraig> hackerx, is there a keyboard shortcut to switch between desktops?
[02:54] <cwraig> hackerx, ive got some big file copies going that i do not want to pause so i was trying to get out of doing that
[02:54] <hackerx> you can switch to another terminal and restart x window system
[02:55] <david_> wow vim /etc/alias
[02:55] <cwraig> hackerx, will that halt the copies that i have going through konquorer
[02:55] <david_> who would have thought it would be that easy
[02:55] <david_> thanks folks
[02:56] <coreymon77> any ideas?
[02:56] <hackerx> or you can open another terminal window with alt ctrl f1 and manually shut down that operation
[02:56] <cwraig> hackerx, which operation should i be stopping?
[02:57] <cwraig> hackerx, i can get in via ssh
[02:57] <hackerx> if you can stop firefox and data transfer is occuring on konquerer than you should be cool
[02:58] <hackerx> other wise you need to reboot the x window system and find out why its causing the system to hang..
[02:58] <cwraig> hackerx, ok thanks
[02:58] <hackerx> sorry if im not more help
[02:59] <cwraig> hackerx, thats fine, ill kill firefox and see if that helps otherwise ill just wait till the network traffic dies down and then restart xorg
[03:02] <cwraig> hackerx, killing firefox didnt help ill just wait a few hours and then restart X
[03:02] <cwraig> is there any way that i can view network traffic on the command line like "top"
[03:03] <hackerx> not sure..let me do some looking..if your still on in a few i'll tell ya what i find
[03:06] <hackerx> try the manual pages for netstat
[03:06] <hackerx> go to the terminal and type man netstat
[03:06] <cwraig> hackerx, ok
[03:12] <cwraig> hackerx, by usign netstat --tcp --numeric i can see the connection to my samba server, when this connection disappears i will restart xorg. Is there anything i can do to debug this?
[03:15] <hackerx> got a brain fart..
[03:15] <hackerx> if you restart dont think so..
[03:15] <cwraig> hackerx, thats ok ill ask in #kde about bug reporting thankyou for all your help
[03:15] <hackerx> ya sure
[03:27] <tony__> Hi, I am new to this irc thing, and have a question about the 7.10 updates that dont seem to be available any more. Is 7.10 still able to be updated using sapt-get update and apt-get dist_upgrade?
[03:29] <myself> can you customize the live preview thing in KDE?
[03:29] <myself> make the window bigger and nicer looking (the preview window)?
[03:29] <tony__> will 7.10 still update?
[03:30] <BluesKaj> tony__, https://wiki.kubuntu.org/FAQ
[03:31] <tony__> tnx
[03:31] <BluesKaj> tony__, it ooks like it's past the end of life
[03:31] <BluesKaj> err looks
[03:31] <Dragnslcr> I don't think 7.10 is still supported
[03:32] <Dragnslcr> 18 months would have been this past April
[03:33] <Pici> !7.10
[03:33] <BluesKaj> but you can upgrade to 8.04 cuz it's still supported
[03:33] <myself> hey is there a way to customize the preview windows in the taskbar????
[03:33] <myself> the "live preview" thing, i want to make it bigger
[03:33] <tony__> ouch, I have a major issue with elo serail touchscreens not working in 8.04 or later
[03:33] <myself> when you put your mouse on the window and it gives you a little preview
[03:34] <Dragnslcr> myself- not that I can find
[03:35] <myself> also i have a question
[03:36] <myself> whats this called
[03:36] <myself> http://i28.tinypic.com/16k1ceu.png
[03:37] <Dragnslcr> I just call it the settings button
[03:37] <Dragnslcr> I've also seen it called the "cashew"
[03:41] <myself> thank you dragnslcr
[03:41] <Dragnslcr> No problem
[03:51] <myself> hey my "cashew" http://i28.tinypic.com/16k1ceu.png is acting up, it wont show a menu in front of all the other stuff on the desktop, so i have to minimize everything to see a menu w/ it
[03:51] <myself> lemme re log in
[03:53] <KittyBoots> I have never found the cashew to have any value
[03:53] <KittyBoots> I am trying to use wammu but I dont have a cellphone adaptor
[03:54] <KittyBoots> hello
[03:54] <myself> so yeah my "casew" http://i28.tinypic.com/16k1ceu.png wont show a menu in fornt of other stufff, not even a little toolbar i made,
[03:55] <myself> its all in the background
[03:55] <davidjheinrich> hi all...does anyone here know if there is a simple way for me to generate a SIMPLE table (just table, tr, td, th tags, no style, nothing else)? I have an OpenOffice.org table, but it generates awful code, even with export > XHTML
[03:56] <myself> someone tell me please how to fix this, thank you
[03:56] <KittyBoots> My only advice is to use gnome
[03:56] <KittyBoots> I dont use kde because I dont like the cashew
[03:58] <BluesKaj> that's for opening the widgets option
[03:58] <BluesKaj> there's nothing evil about it ;)
[03:59] <KittyBoots> KDE is awesome, but it dosen't need the cashew
[03:59] <KittyBoots> if it was just a little bit more useful
[04:00] <BluesKaj> well, sacktime for me
[04:04] <noquinho> please let me know, where i find compiz fusion executable
[04:05] <noquinho> bin? boot?
[04:05] <noquinho> etc?
[04:06] <Dragnslcr> noquinho- probably either /usr/bin or /usr/sbin
[04:08] <noquinho> ok
[04:08] <noquinho> thx
[04:10] <noquinho> where i put in pastebin?
[04:11] <noquinho> i think i am having problems with compiz
[04:14] <delgadojjk> hi
[04:14] <noquinho> i appreciate if u can analize this for me
[04:14] <noquinho> http://pastebin.com/m991c89c
[04:15] <noquinho> i am trying to set compiz on boot
[04:24] <myself> so is there a way to make the cashew not appear in the background of everything making it useless
[04:24] <myself> the cashew menu
[04:31] <corigo> Trying to update to KDE 4.3... but I'm stuck with 4 packages not yet loaded. It keeps complaining "gzip: stdout: No Space left on device" and "No apport report written because MaxReports is reached already" and finally E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[04:31] <corigo> I have tried to sudo apt-get -f install and sudo apt-get -f dist-upgrade and also sudo dpkg --force-overwrite --install but still getting errors on the last 4 packages
[04:32] <Dragnslcr> corigo- you sure that you aren't out of disk space?
[04:33] <Dragnslcr> myself- I've always wondered that myself, and I don't think there is. There should be a panel widget to minimize all windows, which would kinda help
[04:33] <Dragnslcr> myself- I would guess that the reasoning is that once you have your desktop and panels set, you don't need the settings menu very often
[04:33] <noquinho> how can i set screenlets to run when i log on ?
[04:33] <corigo> The only partition that is out of space is boot all other partitions have space
[04:34] <Dragnslcr> corigo- well, are the packages that you're trying to update the kernel packages?
[04:34] <corigo> The listed items are: linux-restricted-modules-2.6.28-14-generic
[04:34] <corigo>  linux-restricted-modules-2.6.28-15-generic
[04:34] <corigo>  linux-restricted-modules-generic
[04:34] <corigo>  linux-generic
[04:34] <FloodBotK1> corigo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:35] <Dragnslcr> There you go then
[04:35] <corigo> Dragnslcr: meaning?
[04:35] <Dragnslcr> If there's no space left on /boot, you can't install a new kernel
[04:35] <corigo> I see.
[04:36] <Dragnslcr> You can either resize the partition or uninstall a couple old kernels
[04:36] <myself> dragnslcr alright, thank you
[04:36] <corigo> Can I clean up boot? There seems to be half a dozen each of all the same files... ?
[04:36] <Dragnslcr> How big is the partition?
[04:36] <noquinho> when u turn on your computer your screenlets are on desktop ? how do i set it ?
[04:36] <corigo> 144MB
[04:37] <corigo> How do I uninstall old kernels?
[04:37] <Dragnslcr> My /boot directory is only taking up about 50 MB, so I would guess you have a lot of kernel images there
[04:38] <Dragnslcr> The package names are linux-image-[version]
[04:38] <Dragnslcr> You should probably leave the 3 most recent, just in case
[04:41] <corigo> I don't see any "linux-image-x" I have a bunch of: abi-2.6, config-2.6, initrd.img-2.6, System.map-2.6, vmcoreinfo-2.6, and vmlinuz-2.6.... (10 of each)
[04:43] <Dragnslcr> Those are files
[04:43] <Dragnslcr> I meant packages, as in using KPackageKit or apt-get to remove them
[04:44] <DarthPuff> how do i install a new compiz theme?
[04:45] <karan> how do i see the actual name of my computer?
[04:46] <karan> help
[04:46] <karan> im trying to do remote desktop
[04:46] <corigo> Dragnslcr: thanks
[04:47] <karan> ???
[04:47] <karan> someone please
[04:48] <karan> its 12 in canada
[04:48] <karan> and im tired
[05:05] <glide> i am having trouble installing kubuntu, it hangs when it tries to start xorg
[05:05] <kubuntuboy> where can i get kubuntu ?
[05:15] <glide> ubiquity hangs
[05:25] <davidjheinrich> when writing websites to be future-proof and best separate design & content, what should I refer to? XHTML or HTML 4.01?
[05:34] <Guest55157> привет юные пользователи кубунты! :)
[05:42] <wqj> ?
[05:52] <glide> bad video card
[05:52] <glide> go figure
[05:53] <jjara> hello glide
[05:53] <glide> hi jjara
[05:54] <jjara> i have a problem in ubuntu 9.04 server
[05:54] <jjara> if iam connecting in remote like ssh or telnet or http the server always disconnecting
[05:54] <glide> go ahead, i'll do my best to help
[05:55] <glide> you connect, then disconnect, or you never connect?
[05:55] <jjara> if i issue netstat -atno ill see a timer counting
[05:56] <glide> i've never seen that before
[05:56] <glide> sounds like a session limit is set somewhere
[05:57] <glide> man ssh_config
[05:57] <SecMonk> jjara: is it an immediate disconnect or after X seconds?
[05:57] <glide> man sshd_config
[05:58] <glide> do you have a TMOUT variable set in /etc/bashrc?
[05:58] <SecMonk> jjara: curious if it's isolated to one user account or several (all)?
[05:59] <jjara> not isolated
[05:59] <glide> http://ocaoimh.ie/how-to-fix-ssh-timeout-problems/
[05:59] <jjara> i configure already the ssh_config and set the serveraliveinternal but still the same
[06:00] <SecMonk> jjara: wait, it behaves that way no matter the connection protocol?  ssh? telnet? rsh? etc?
[06:02] <jjara> yup
[06:03] <jjara> i configure this as a web server but even http is disconnectin
[06:06] <glide> yikes, kubuntu 10 does ext4 by default
[06:08] <jjara> any solution how to configure this
[06:14] <jjara> SecMock: any connection ssh or telnet even http as a web server
[06:15] <davidjheinrich> does anyone know of a screen reader plugin for firefox? or of a good screen reader I can use? I want to see how web-pages are in screen-readers
[06:47] <skierpage> I "print" to myfile.pdf in Documents.  Now I want to view it in Okular. Kicker doesn't do filename completion, Krunner only does directory completion.  And neither will open ~/Documents/myfile.pdf What am I missing?!
[06:49] <skierpage> Hmm, Krunner does do the right thing so long as I type the filename myself, so it's just Kickoff.  Is there an "open /path/to" that does the right thing?
[06:59] <eatThisAndDie> anyone with jaunty have any success isntalling grub2?
[07:00] <eatThisAndDie> i can't seem to upgrade it, the first boot after installation (which goes to grub to confirm ) seems to wreck it.
[07:28] <knic> I am running 8.04 and I just updated to the latest 8.04 packages and when I log into KDM for my account kdm just resets
[07:29] <knic> I am running an nvidia graphics card and was wondering how should I fix
[07:38] <danald> #kubuntu
[07:38] <danald> ops ha
[07:38] <danald> hey can someone help me
[07:54] <zoiss> hey guys. my edit software sources window doesnt pop up any more. does anyone know how to fix that?
[07:58] <ubuntu_> Hi eveybody
[07:58] <Mamarok> !ask | danald
[07:59] <Mamarok> zoiss: what exact window do you mean?
[07:59] <danald> ha sorry man im too tired for this ill come back tommorow
[08:00] <zoiss> in kpackagekit. the window to set sources for downloading packages
[08:00] <ubuntu_> I am trying to install Kubuntu on my Vista machine ( I am currently up on CD live bcause I couldnt install) after asking language setting and time zone,nothing happens and Next button goes in active.The only thing I can do is Quit the installation.
[08:00] <ubuntu_> can anybody help me whats the problem?
[08:00] <Mamarok> zoiss: maybe it is behind the other one? try Alt + Tab
[08:01] <ubuntu_> no there is only one window.
[08:01] <Mamarok> ubuntu_: can you run the live CD on your system?
[08:01] <zoiss> Mamarok: no sir. its not :]
[08:01] <ubuntu_> burn into harddisk you mean ? how boot from that then?
[08:02] <Mamarok> zoiss: restart the application and try again?
[08:02] <zoiss> it was asking me for password, but the window didnt show up then. restart doestn work, too
[08:02] <Mamarok> ubuntu_: no, I mean can you run the live CD on that system?
[08:02] <zoiss> even with adept installer it doesnt show up
[08:02] <Mamarok> zoiss: which KDE version do you have?
[08:02] <zoiss> 4.3
[08:02] <Mamarok> that is more than strange
[08:03] <ubuntu_> yes I can.I am currently on Live CD . I just cant install from the live cd.it doest proceed after asking time zone.
[08:03] <Mamarok> zoiss: try restarting KDE
[08:03] <Mamarok> ubuntu_: then I don't known, maybe your CD is defective? Did you burn it yourself?
[08:03] <zoiss> reboot doesnt help Mamarok
[08:04] <ubuntu_> yes I burn myself.If its defective how comes that it can run the live cd?
[08:04] <Mamarok> zoiss: I didn't say reboot, I said restart KDE only
[08:04] <Mamarok> ubuntu_: well, the installer can still be defective
[08:04] <zoiss> ok, how to restart kde only?
[08:04] <Mamarok> zoiss: log out and then log in again
[08:04] <ubuntu_> So you suggest I try to burn once more ?
[08:05] <zoiss> ok brb
[08:05] <Mamarok> ubuntu_: that would be an option, make sure it is not a cheap media CD, those often have very poor results
[08:05] <myself> i burned an ubuntu_                                   cd
[08:06] <ubuntu_> Mamarok: is there any other option
[08:06] <Mamarok> ubuntu_: test your disk? There is an option at the beginning, before you start the installation process
[08:07] <ubuntu_> I tried that.It told the disk is OK.
[08:07] <Mamarok> myself: and how would that help? It's the same underlying application
[08:07] <ubuntu_> thats why i am confused :-/
[08:07] <myself> my thing just blinked cause someone said "myself"
[08:07] <zoiss> Mamarok: now i have another try or do i have to change anything first?
[08:07] <myself> anyawy im sorry
[08:07] <Mamarok> ubuntu_: then I really don't know, maybe ask in #ubuntu, there are more eyes
[08:08] <ubuntu_> thanks for your time man..
[08:08] <myself> u know
[08:08] <Mamarok> myself: well, that's the downside of your nick then :)
[08:08] <myself> u can install ubuntu first
[08:08] <myself> then download kde
[08:08] <haf1z>  hello
[08:08] <Mamarok> ubuntu_: you are welcome :)
[08:08] <myself> sudo apt get-install kdepackage
[08:08] <myself> whatever the package name is
[08:08] <myself> thats what i did
[08:08] <myself> it works great
[08:08] <haf1z> anyone can help me with install flash player?
[08:08] <ubuntu_> I am new to IRC...
[08:08] <FloodBotK1> myself: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:08] <Mamarok> myself: ha can't install at all
[08:08] <myself> and u can hop on gnome whenever you want
[08:08] <myself> oh whats the problem ? :/
[08:08] <ubuntu_> how can I switch to that ubuntu that you just mention?
[08:08] <haf1z> i want to watch utube vids
[08:09] <Mamarok> myself: well, then read the question above,
[08:09] <haf1z> but i need to install the plugins
[08:09] <Mamarok> ubuntu_: that will not solve any of your problems
[08:09] <myself> re-download a live cd ubuntu_
[08:09] <myself> or re-burn it maybe
[08:09] <Mamarok> haf1z: you need to install the flashplugin-nonfree package
[08:09] <myself> but i'd say your burn/image is messed up
[08:10] <myself> kubuntu should install fine, but, if it doesn't, download the Ubuntu live CD
[08:10] <Mamarok> myself: again, this is *not* dependent of wether he as a Gnome or a KDE CD, they use the same installation procedure!
[08:10] <haf1z> Mamarok: i already dload d flash player but got this msg error [ Wrong Architecture i386
[08:10] <myself> his cd image is probably messed up
[08:10] <myself> i doubt he has some serious hardware issue that wouldn't let him install it
[08:10] <ubuntu_> can I make mahine boot from the .iso file  downloaded?
[08:10] <myself> its probably the image
[08:10] <Mamarok> ubuntu_: you will be fine with the Kubuntu one, just make sure you check the md5sum before burning
[08:10] <myself> whast the name of your .iso image
[08:11] <myself> ubuntu_, you can make it boot from the CD, have you tried that?
[08:11] <Mamarok> haf1z: where did you download it from?
[08:11] <haf1z> Mamarok: adobe website
[08:11] <ubuntu_> Mamarok :what is md5sum? Yes I tried live CD!
[08:11] <Mamarok> haf1z: you should use the package from the repositories, the one from the adobe website will not work as it seems
[08:11] <igor_> Hi, does anybodu know how to adjust vim, so that % will skip commented lines?
[08:11] <myself> ubuntu_ maybe you should burn it again
[08:12] <Mamarok> !md5 | ubuntu_
[08:12] <myself> paste the name of the live cd
[08:12] <myself> that you have
[08:12] <haf1z> Mamarok: how to use the package repositories?
[08:12] <Mamarok> myself: very helpful, guess what I told him 10 minutes ago...
[08:12] <haf1z> Mamarok: Im quite new to ubutnu
[08:12] <Mamarok> haf1z: well, use the package manager on your system, which Kubuntu do you use?
[08:13] <haf1z> Ubuntu 8.04 LTS
[08:13] <Mamarok> haf1z: the tha package manager is called adept
[08:13] <haf1z> Mamarok: isit Synaptic Package Manager?
[08:13] <Mamarok> haf1z: oh, wait, did you say Ubuntu? Do you use Gnome?
[08:14] <ubuntu_> myself : Kubuntu 9.04 i386
[08:14] <Mamarok> then it is synaptic, yes, but then you are in the wrong channel too :)
[08:14] <ubuntu_> ubottu: thanks man..
[08:14] <myself> hah
[08:14] <haf1z> i already open my package manager? then
[08:14] <Mamarok> ubuntu_: that is a bot
[08:15] <Mamarok> haf1z: yes, open synaptic, then search for the package called flashplugin-nonfree, maybe in your version it is flashplayer-nonfree
[08:15] <myself> ubuntu_ reburn the image, if it doesn't work, download the image for Ubuntu 9.04 i386 and try that
[08:15] <ubuntu_> I already found that ! it is sensitive to some keywords like md5sum so it post reply?
[08:15] <haf1z> Mamarok: not result found
[08:16] <ubuntu_> thanks guys.good experience for a first time linux and irc user
[08:16] <Mamarok> ubuntu_: well, you should read those link I gave you first, you need to check if the output of 'md5sum yourpackage.iso is the same than the one on the hashes website
[08:16] <Mamarok> too late :(
[08:17] <Mamarok> haf1z: then maybe ask in #ubuntu? I don't know how it was called back in 8.04, there are more eyes, and as you are using Gnome anyway it is the channel for you :)
[08:17] <zoiss> Mamarok: the KDE restart didn't help, do you have any more ideas?
[08:17] <haf1z> o ok
[08:17] <haf1z> thx for ur help Mamarok
[08:17] <Mamarok> zoiss: yes, move your ~/.kde/ to  ^/.kde_backup/ and restart KDE again
[08:17] <Adola> Hi!  After I activate a colour scheme, how do I "Activate" it (short of restarting?)
[08:18] <Mamarok> this will move all your settings, but should also get you rid of some config files that are likely to block your system
[08:18] <Mamarok> Adola: it should apply immediately
[08:19] <zoiss> ok thank you
[08:19] <Adola> Mamarok: No, it didn't, for example, the Pidgin conversation window remains a VERY hard to read colour.
[08:21] <Mamarok> Adola: because Pidgin is not a KDE application, this is a known bug for gtk apps, did you activate the Qt4 style for gtk apps?
[08:21] <Adola> Mamarok: I believe I did.
[08:21] <Adola> But, how do I? (Just in case I didn't)
[08:22] <Mamarok> Adola: the same way you changed the color scheme, check the "GTK Style and fonts" part in systemsettings -> Apperance
[08:22] <Mamarok> also, there is a package you might need, moment...
[08:22] <Adola> There is no "GTK Style" There is a "Fonts"
[08:22] <Adola> BTW, Kubuntu 9.04 if that helps.
[08:23] <Mamarok> install kde-style-qtcurve then
[08:25] <Adola> Mamarok: Well, it's allready installed, I changed manually the GTK settings to use default desktop settings, and it worked.
[08:25] <Mamarok> nice :)
[08:25] <Adola> Mamarok: So, thank ya!
[08:26] <Mamarok> Adola: you are welcome :)
[08:32] <silv3r_m00n> hi there , me on 9.04 kde and my keyboard suddenly stopped working and isn't working any more ..... works fine in gnome
[08:33] <silv3r_m00n> HOW DO I FIX IT
[08:34] <zoiss> Mamarok: sorry for bothering you again. even a new kde profile didnt fix that problem
[08:36] <Mamarok> zoiss: then you should report a bug to https://bugs.launchpad.net
[08:36] <Mamarok> zoiss: in the mean time, you can add the sources manually by editing the /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:36] <zoiss> hm ok. thank you very much
[08:37] <zoiss> ok
[08:37] <Mamarok> zoiss: you need to have sudo rights, so 'kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list' is the command to use :)
[08:38] <zoiss> yep i already tried that because i thought i was adding a broken source. so i removed it with kate but it didnt help
[08:42] <Mamarok> zoiss: what didn't help?
[08:42] <Mamarok> or better, what didn't it help to do?
[08:42] <zoiss> removing the line i added at last
[08:42] <zoiss> the one source i thought to be broken
[08:43] <Mamarok> zoiss: still, what is your problem then, if you think xou have a broken source lien?
[08:43] <Mamarok> you*
[08:43] <Mamarok> line even
[08:44] <zoiss> i had some time ago i problem with the "edit software sources" window when i added a software source incorrectly
[08:44] <Mamarok> zoiss: care pasting your sources.list to http://paste.ubuntu.com and give the URL here?
[08:45] <gaelfx> I'm running the alpha of Karmic Netbook version and i can't get my wireless to connect, can someone help me figure out why or direct me to a more appropriate venue to ask for help with this?
[08:45] <Mamarok> zoiss: but you still didn't tell me why you think you have a broken source line
[08:45] <gaelfx> is there a kubuntu+1 channel?
[08:45] <Mamarok> gaelfx: please ask in #ubuntu+1 for Karmic support
[08:45] <zoiss> so i just was trying to exclude that problem by removing the last line
[08:45] <Mamarok> zoiss: please answer my question
[08:46] <zoiss> [09:44:03] <zoiss> i had some time ago i problem with the "edit software sources" window when i added a software source incorrectly
[08:46] <zoiss> thats why i was trying first to remove the last line
[08:46] <zoiss> just to know this is not the problem
[08:46] <Mamarok> zoiss: I still don't understand what is the problem, can't you update somthing, or do you get error messages?
[08:47] <zoiss> i can update and everything is fine. but the "edit software sources" window doesnt show up any more
[08:47] <zoiss> neither in kpackagekit nor in adept
[08:47] <pournak> salam
[08:48] <Mamarok> zoiss: ok, the it's a problem with kpackagekit you should report as a bug, that has nothing to do with broken sources or such
[08:48] <Mamarok> !hi | pournak
[08:48] <pournak> tank you
[08:49] <pournak> can you help me abuot kubunu
[08:49] <zoiss> Mamarok: even if the problem is regarding Adept Installer, too?
[08:49] <Mamarok> !ask | pournak
[08:49] <Mamarok> zoiss: because you are using Adept in 9.04?
[08:50] <pournak> i can not install kde 4.3.0 in ubuntu
[08:50] <Mamarok> zoiss: you should use kpackagekit, the one in the system settings, Adept is deprecated
[08:50] <zoiss> Mamarok: ok
[08:50] <Mamarok> pournak: you need to install the PPA repository, see the topic of this channel
[08:50] <pournak> and
[08:50] <Mamarok> and, of course, you need to have kubuntu-desktop installed first :)
[08:50] <pournak> and
[08:51] <Mamarok> and what?
[08:51] <pournak> i can not install beylux messenger in kubuntu
[08:52] <Mamarok> pournak: what is beylux? never heard of that
[08:53] <pournak> it a messenger in windows
[08:53] <Mamarok> pournak: well, ther is kopete in Kubuntu, you can't install Windows applications in Linux :)
[08:53] <pournak> and i can not install it by wine
[08:54] <Mamarok> because wine works for some applications, but not for all, did you try kopete or pidgin?
[08:54] <Mamarok> !im
[08:54] <pournak> tank you very much
[08:54] <pournak> see you latter
[08:55] <Mamarok> pournak: you are welcome :)
[08:56] <gaelfx> how can I check which driver my system is using for my wireless card?
[08:56]  * Mamarok has to work now
[08:56] <Mamarok> gaelfx: lspci on a command line
[08:57] <gaelfx> I need to know the driver, not the hardware
[09:00] <gaelfx> got it, need to add -v to lspci to display driver info
[09:04] <gaelfx> I'm trying to connect to my wireles network with my Atheros 928x card, the driver is ATH9K, the security is WEP, and yet I cannot connect to the network ever, it seems to think that the password is wrong, though i've doublechecked the password set on the router and I'm sure the password is correct, does someone have any ideas about what might be going wrong?
[09:07] <mtux> Hi there, After installing Amarok and KDE 4.3 from Kubuntu repository, I'v got this on running it: http://paste.ubuntu.com/249059/ What's the missing pkg!?
[09:07] <mtux> It's an error message
[09:19] <eggy_> Hello, how do I disable this akonadi server which keeps failing to start?
[09:20] <gaelfx> what are the commands for updating grub so it displays my windows partition as well?
[09:21] <muczy> hi
[09:22] <muczy> i've added system monitoring plasmoid to my desktop (cpu, memory, temperature), but nothing shows up in the windows
[09:22] <muczy> in the configure dialog there isn't any sensors/cpus
[09:22] <muczy> can someone help me to debug this?
[09:26] <muczy> running "plasmoidviewer sm_cpu" says: findServiceByDesktopPath:  not found
[09:29] <muczy> (sensors command shows up available sensors, so kernel module is loaded)
[09:32] <muczy> ah, cpu and memory plasmoids need ksysguardd running...
[09:32] <muczy> but temperature applet is still empty
[09:46] <andreas_> hi all
[09:48] <andreas_> anyone here to help me with an ubuntu problem?
[10:00] <blaamannkde4> andreas_: Do no ask to ask. Describe your problem the best you can and we will try to help you.
[10:00] <andreas_> ok, I will try
[10:14] <andreas_> sorry, I was on the phone ... ok, here my problem:
[10:15] <andreas_> I am very new to ubuntu and I have some strange effects ... graphics problems I think
[10:15] <andreas_> for example: when I play a game with cards and I start new, then it dosn't clear the area, where you play
[10:15] <andreas_> or I play a game battleship, and I played one round and start new, then it doesn't clear the area, where I place my ships ...
[10:15] <andreas_> it leaves fragments of the game before
[10:15] <andreas_> another effect: when I play a game (like openttd) in fullscreen mode, it sometimes switches back to windowed mode, without me doing anything
[10:15] <andreas_> could it be that I have the wrong hardware driver for my nvidia card?
[10:26] <driftwood> just checked out of intreast 2 nvidia drivers are available under ubuntu.  btw are u aware by default nvida drivers being proprietry are not activated by default - u have to do that
[10:27] <andreas_> it installed a nvidia driver, when I first started a game
[10:28] <driftwood> what i meant to say is u do a normal install of ubuntu and u have anvidia graphics u have to activate the driver yourself. guess u have done this
[10:28] <driftwood> ah ok
[10:29] <andreas_> but I don't know, if it was the right driver, because in "add/remove programs" there are other ones as well
[10:29] <andreas_> but I can't install them
[10:29] <andreas_> it says "conflict with existing software"
[10:39] <driftwood> not sure u can use add/remove directly to change hardware drivers. on my list u can use it to install and uninstall the software that controls the drivers ( its called "hardware drivers" appropriatly . and i have 2 versions installed one for use in kde and another for use in gnome) . maybe i got it wrong tho.
[10:40] <driftwood> so u got to run again "hardware drivers" application instead. may be u done that
[10:41] <andreas_> I have only installed one of the "hardware drivers" application. How do I know, if I have KDE or gnome??? (sorry, but I warned you - im new to this) ;-)
[10:42] <driftwood> i only knew because i read the discription it provides within add/remove against each. :) . i too was bit suprised to have 2
[10:42] <andreas_> ok, in this application it says "nvidia driver version 180 (recommended)"
[10:43] <driftwood> but i guess if u can run it ok on your desktop u must have the correct version!
[10:43] <driftwood> ok so i guess u selected that but u where not happy with results
[10:44] <driftwood> #what happens if u select now the other one and hit apply
[10:44] <andreas_> I don't know, if the problems are a result of that driver ... that was only a guess :)
[10:44] <ale_mwx> hey guys. currently im runnning kde-desktop on my ubuntu machine to test kde. i have a small proplem: partly fonts or window position stick on their place and dont change immediatly. where is the problem and how can i solve it?
[10:46] <driftwood> apart from the automatic resizing of window which does not sound like a driver problem , the other one as u say is q likley to be
[10:47] <driftwood> or maybe your computer is being overworked and does not have time to refresh the screen . just a pure guess. as going from my experence of windows if u run too many things there the graphics do go funny like u say. not sure
[10:48] <ale_mwx> also when i open a new window, new buttons are not visible. they bevome visible when i do an hover with my mouse...
[10:48] <driftwood> but linux runs v efficently however!!
[10:49] <andreas_> ok, I installed the other one, but it doesn't show up
[10:49] <driftwood> is it an oldish computer?
[10:49] <andreas_> no, a quite new one
[10:50] <andreas_> I don't think my computer is overworked ... i rather think it is bored ;-)
[10:50] <driftwood> no real idea then!! have u got any special effects like compiz turned on?
[10:50] <driftwood> lol
[10:50] <andreas_> compiz?
[10:51] <driftwood> probably not then
[10:51] <driftwood> its a bit like aero in windows , just fancy dressing of your desktop
[10:51] <andreas_> ah ok, yes, I have activated that ... should I try to deactivate it?
[10:52] <driftwood> worth a try
[10:53] <andreas_> ok, just trying
[10:57] <andreas_> ok, it seems to work better ... on first sight
[10:58] <andreas_> maybe that solved my problem ... I think I have to try a bit longer ... but thanks for now :-)
[10:58] <driftwood> ok   . thats good :)
[10:58] <andreas_> cu
[10:58] <driftwood> time 4 bed now , i think. going to do a night shift
[11:00] <horus> Como hago para reestablecer la configuración por defecto del panel de KDE?
[11:04] <horus> Como hago para reestablecer la configuración por defecto del panel de KDE?
[11:08] <horus> Como hago para reestablecer la configuración por defecto del panel de KDE?
[11:23] <muczy> bye
[11:32] <orion> help>>> Could not install Air  final update (plasma theme)
[11:34] <Zehle> Hi
[11:35] <Zehle> Is there an ubuntu site on swedish?
[11:41] <simonb1> hi all!
[11:42] <simonb1> i'm using kubuntu 8.10 with evdev controlled touchpad... how can i swap X and Y it?
[11:42] <simonb1> no clues?
[11:42] <HenkdeVries> Is anyone else having mayor issues installing software on a hardy 64 bits system? With the nl.archive repo I get all kinds of sum mismatches and if I try a different repo (like us.archive) I get lots of bzip2 errors
[12:08] <Guest918> this opendesktop plasmoid keeps on asking for a username and pw,  but i use openid to login, how can i enter this ?
[12:09] <Mamarok> Guest918: you need an account on opendesktop.org :)
[12:09] <wers> how come, whenever i set compiz to use the kwin decorator, i get no window border at all? i have the compiz-kde package
[12:10] <Mamarok> wers: you can't use both, either you use kwin or you use compiz
[12:10] <ghostcube> he means kde4-window-decorator
[12:10] <ghostcube> afaik the 8.8.2 doesnt support kde4-window-decorator
[12:10] <ghostcube> 0
[12:11] <wers> what 8.8.2? which package is hat?
[12:11] <ghostcube> 0.8.2
[12:11] <wers> that's what i'm referring to ghostcube
[12:11] <Mamarok> and what would 8.8.2 be the version of?
[12:11] <ghostcube> typo -_-
[12:11] <Mamarok> ghostcube: what package are you talking about?
[12:11] <ghostcube> compiz
[12:12] <Mamarok> wers: if you are using kde4, then you have to choose, either Kwin or Compiz, both together will not work
[12:12] <ghostcube> Mamarok: thats not the problem
[12:12] <wers> Mamarok: there's an option for compiz to use the kde window decorator
[12:12] <wers> it should work. there's just a bug
[12:12] <ghostcube> wers it doesnt work
[12:12] <ghostcube> just try emerald
[12:13] <Mamarok> why don't you just use kwin desktop effects?
[12:13] <ghostcube> cause they suck
[12:13] <Mamarok> ghostcube: they don't for me, and watch your language :)
[12:13] <ghostcube> sorry ut iam tired of this discussion
[12:13] <ghostcube> not against you
[12:13] <wers> Mamarok: it's either compiz is just better or it just works better on my hardware
[12:13] <ghostcube> but i dont can work with the kde4 effects
[12:14] <ghostcube> dont can oha i need coffee
[12:14] <Mamarok> wers: if you want to use compiz, you need to use another window manager than kwin, else it will not work
[12:14] <wers> compiz is much smoother here for some reason. the difference is significant
[12:14] <ghostcube> Mamarok: kwin has a decorator
[12:15] <ghostcube> kwin is not the decorator
[12:15] <ghostcube> kwin is the WM
[12:15] <ghostcube> so he can use kwin decorator in compiz
[12:15] <wers> Mamarok: ghostcube got it right
[12:15] <ghostcube> but its buggy
[12:15] <Mamarok> well, then you go explain that :)
[12:15] <ghostcube> :)
[12:15] <wers> Mamarok: install fusion-icon and see it for yourself
[12:15] <Mamarok> because the only working solution I have seen so far is to use another WM
[12:15] <ghostcube> sorry its to early for me
[12:15] <ghostcube> :D
[12:16] <wers> it works on fedora (because of the compiz version issue)
[12:16] <ghostcube> wers: just install emerald
[12:16] <Mamarok> wers: I don't use effects, besides some transparency, this is a working PC :)
[12:16] <ghostcube> i like the themes more than the kde4 themes
[12:16] <ghostcube> Mamarok: i use the screen edges for some things in compiz
[12:16] <ghostcube> and iam used to from macosx
[12:17] <ghostcube> and in kde4 you cn forget the edges handling
[12:17] <ghostcube> :D
[12:17] <wers> ghostcube: i customized the color scheme. i suppose,emerald wont follow. i will have to find an emerald theme that would work perfectly
[12:17] <ghostcube> it will follow
[12:17] <Mamarok> ghostcube: all well, but this is not support related, that bvelongs to -offtopic
[12:17] <ghostcube> nah he needs to go here #compiz
[12:17] <ghostcube> :)
[12:17] <Mamarok> ghostcube: I talk about your rambling :)
[12:17] <wers> yeah. haha. i will
[12:17] <ghostcube> oh ;)
[12:17]  * Mamarok goes back to paid work
[12:18] <Guest918> how can i open the desktop effects from the system-settings ?
[12:18] <wers> Mamarok: chill
[12:18] <wers> Guest918: for kwin?
[12:18] <Mamarok> wers: there are rules for the channel, as simple as that
[12:18] <Guest918> yes
[12:18] <ghostcube> apearance
[12:18] <ghostcube> :)
[12:19] <Guest918> i dont see the effecst settings there
[12:19] <wers> Guest918: desktop
[12:19] <wers> then enable desktop effects
[12:55] <yusuf> I have installed kde 9.04
[12:56] <anayathris> Hi all.
[12:56] <yusuf> I added the kde 4.3 ppa refreshed and did a full upgrade
[12:56] <yusuf> Ifter loging in I get the splash screeen and then a plasma crash report
[12:57] <yusuf> and then stuck
[12:57] <yusuf> anyone can help me?
[13:01] <Philip5> Just made a little Kubuntu Twibbon for Twitter users to show that we kubuntu users are out there or/and just to show that you are a proud Kubuntu user... :) http://twibbon.com/join/Kubuntu
[13:02] <Philip5> Hope it's of any use
[13:02] <Philip5> Ubuntu users have a bunch of twibbons but kubuntu users had none :(
[13:16] <Mamarok> Philip5: this might be related to the fact that most people in KDE use identi.ca instead of twitter
[13:24] <Philip5> Mamarok: might be so... and identi.ca is open source so it figures... but still... there should been at least one twibbon for kubuntu when ubuntu have several and they might also use identi.ca
[13:31] <Mamarok> Philip5: ok, thanks anyway :)
[13:32] <sil3nt|warri0r> http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/4552/linuxkernel.jpg
[13:32] <sil3nt|warri0r> plz tell me which one i can remove safely
[13:32] <sil3nt|warri0r> i need to make work the wifi with 3rd party drivers
[13:32] <sil3nt|warri0r> plz help
[13:36] <Philip5> Mamarok: well, i'm not sure that it will be the top news on digg but fair is fair... :)
[13:38] <Mamarok> sil3nt|warri0r: this depends on which kernel you are running
[13:38] <Mamarok> if the latest kernel runs fine, you can remove the previous one
[13:38] <sil3nt|warri0r> 2.6.28-12
[13:38] <sil3nt|warri0r> generic
[13:38] <Mamarok> sil3nt|warri0r: are you still running Intrepid?
[13:39] <sil3nt|warri0r> no way
[13:39] <sil3nt|warri0r> its jaunty
[13:39] <Mamarok> sil3nt|warri0r: as the latest kernel would be 2.6.28-14 IIRCO
[13:39] <Mamarok> -O
[13:39]  * Mamarok checks her kernel
[13:40] <H2OyJaBoN> hi all!
[13:40] <H2OyJaBoN> I dont have enough space on a partition, is posible to resize it?
[13:40] <sil3nt|warri0r> Mamarok: now, thats the prob, let me show u
[13:41] <Mamarok> H2OyJaBoN: yes, make a backup first, though
[13:41] <Mamarok> H2OyJaBoN: use one of the partition managers:
[13:41] <Mamarok> !partition
[13:41] <Mamarok> sil3nt|warri0r: the latest kernel is indeed 2.6.28-14, you should upgrade ASAP
[13:42] <sil3nt|warri0r> http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/5306/linuxkernel1.jpg
[13:42] <sil3nt|warri0r> but its not showing in my updates
[13:42] <Mamarok> sil3nt|warri0r: you need to run from konsole: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[13:42] <Mamarok> after having run sudo apt-get update, of course
[13:43] <sil3nt|warri0r> but that will upgrade other things too along with kernel
[13:43] <H2OyJaBoN> Mamarok: thanks :)!! how size should i make fo "/"( i use /, /home, /boot, /usr)?
[13:43] <sil3nt|warri0r> i just want to upgrade the kernel only now
[13:44] <Mamarok> sil3nt|warri0r: that is exactly what dist-upgrade will do in that case
[13:44] <Mamarok> but run a sudo apt-get update before
[13:44] <sil3nt|warri0r> k, trying..........
[13:44] <Mamarok> H2OyJaBoN: this depends on the overal size of your HD, and what you are going to install, and how much Ram you have
[13:45] <Mamarok> H2OyJaBoN: also, it doesn't make sense to have different partitions for / /boot/ and /usr
[13:45] <Mamarok> and /home is enough
[13:45] <Mamarok>  / I mean and /home
[13:45] <Mamarok> as /boot and /usr are system partitions anyway, leave those in /
[13:46] <sil3nt|warri0r> Mamarok: two gpg error, can i ignore it ?
[13:47] <Mamarok> H2OyJaBoN: what's the size of your HD?
[13:47] <H2OyJaBoN> Mamarok: only make two partition "/home" and "/"?
[13:47] <Mamarok> sil3nt|warri0r: well, you seem to have added PPAs, so if you want to install the applications from these PPAs, you need to install the keys
[13:48] <sil3nt|warri0r> hmm
[13:48] <Mamarok> H2OyJaBoN: exactly, but as you already have a system, this can only been done by reinstalling it
[13:48] <Mamarok> H2OyJaBoN: what is the size of your HD?
[13:48] <H2OyJaBoN> Mamarok:  the HD is 160Gb
[13:48] <H2OyJaBoN> Mamarok:  yes , i know , i wnat to reinstall it
[13:48] <Mamarok> H2OyJaBoN: same as here, I did the following:
[13:49] <Mamarok> 30 Gb for /, double the RAM size for /swap, the rest for /home
[13:49] <Mamarok> this leaves enough space for the sytem and plenty of space for your user files
[13:51] <H2OyJaBoN> Mamarok: okey, is enought 30GB for /? thanks!! :)
[13:51] <Mamarok> H2OyJaBoN: that is very little, but if you have no images, music or movies it will be enough
[13:52] <Mamarok> oh, sorry, yes, 20 Gb is enough for /, everything else would be for /home
[13:52] <H2OyJaBoN> Mamarok: okeys!! thanks i'll go to re-install later my system ;)
[13:53] <H2OyJaBoN> Mamarok: is necesary the make a swap if i have 2GB RAM ?
[13:53] <Mamarok> H2OyJaBoN: I made a typo, 30 GB should be fine
[13:53] <Mamarok> that's what I have here
[13:54] <H2OyJaBoN> Mamarok:  whats?
[13:54] <Mamarok> I wrote 20 Gb, and meant 30 Gb
[13:54] <H2OyJaBoN> Mamarok:  ahh oks ;)
[13:55] <H2OyJaBoN> Mamarok: is necesary the make a swap if i have 2GB RAM ?
[13:55] <orion> help>>> Could not install Air  final update (plasma theme)
[13:58] <wers> what config files can affect fonts? for some reason, fonts on firefox and kde apps stopped rendering properly
[14:02] <ahox> Hi, akonadi won't start up with kde4.3, the tests 10, 12 and 16 return an error
[14:02] <ahox> any ideas what may help?
[14:02] <H2OyJaBoN> Mamarok: are you there?
[14:02] <sil3nt|warri0r> Mamarok: its upgrading to 14, thx
[14:02] <sil3nt|warri0r> lets see wat happend after reboot
[14:04] <Mamarok> H2OyJaBoN: yes
[14:05] <Mamarok> H2OyJaBoN: yes, you should make a swap space double the size of your ram, so if it's 2 Gb Ram, make a swap space of 4 Gb
[14:06] <carbine> aa
[14:06] <carbine> ss
[14:06] <carbine> ?
[14:06] <H2OyJaBoN> Mamarok:  oks, thanks :)
[14:07] <Mamarok> H2OyJaBoN: you are welcome :)
[14:08] <H2OyJaBoN> Mamarok: :)
[14:09] <simonb2> hi all
[14:10] <simonb2> need help with 8.10 and touch pad swapping... someone here to help?
[14:10] <Mamarok> !ask | simonb2
[14:13] <simonb2> sorry Mamarok and ubottu... i'm using ubuntu 8.10 and ELO touchscreen.. out-of-the-box everything seems to work ok, only te X and Y are swapped...
[14:13] <carbine> 大家好啊，有无中国的？
[14:13] <simonb2> i know the touchpad is controlled by evdev
[14:14] <Nulador> can anybody help geting read of gnome... after i installed kde ... i dont whant to have 2 desktop managers...
[14:14] <Mamarok> simonb2: there is a meta bug in Launchpad for this with a lot of solutions, let me tell you the link:
[14:14] <Nulador> and i cant purge it
[14:14] <simonb2> please Mamarok...
[14:14] <Mamarok> simonb2: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/317094
[14:14] <Mamarok> you should check there
[14:15] <simonb2> Mamarok - thanks - i will
[14:15] <zhxk`> folks, i need enable runlevel at menu.lst, advice me
[14:15] <Mamarok> simonb2: you are welcome :)
[14:17] <sena> Nulador: http://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/gnome-deinstallation/
[14:18] <Nulador> thanks sena :)
[14:18] <sena> Nulador: try it firts, but it should work
[14:19] <Nulador> i am doing that right now... it should work...
[14:20] <Nulador> it`s cleaning pakeges right now
[14:20] <sena> :)
[14:22] <wers> i want to remove all kubuntu kde 4.3 packages. is there a metapackage that would uninstall all of them? :)
[14:23] <Mamarok> wers: no, but why would you want to remove it?
[14:24] <wers> Mamarok, i want a fresh install
[14:24] <wers> i want to install only the packages kde-full contains
[14:24] <Mamarok> wers: well, then you need to do a fresh install, just keep your /home and move the ~/.kde/
[14:25] <Mamarok> but you should try with a blank ~/.kde/ first, that usually solves a lot of problems
[14:25] <wers> yep. i did that twice since i installed 4.3. i really want to remove all the packages kubuntu-desktop installed that are not in kde-full
[14:26] <wers> kde-full is the kde-core of 4.3 right?
[14:26] <Mamarok> no, that is just another meta-package
[14:27] <sil3nt|warri0r> Mamarok: thx a lot, the -14 kernel is installed properly, and also the wifi driver works ok
[14:27] <sil3nt|warri0r> :)
[14:27] <me> sena it worked... :) but i still have to do one more step to complete but when i switched from gdm to kdm x whent down
[14:27] <Mamarok> sil3nt|warri0r: nice :)
[14:27] <wers> Mamarok, that's not what i meant. i meant, kde-full is the counterpart of kde-core (in kde 3), right?
[14:27] <Guest48576> could you pls give me the link one more time
[14:27] <Nulador> ?
[14:27] <Mamarok> wers: no, not at all, that would be kdebase-*
[14:28] <sil3nt|warri0r> Mamarok: now, as the 4.3 is released, is it safe to upgrade to it from jaunty ?
[14:28] <Mamarok> Nulador: http://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/gnome-deinstallation/
[14:28] <sil3nt|warri0r> from ppa-backports
[14:28] <Nulador> thanks
[14:28] <Mamarok> sil3nt|warri0r: it is still without support, read the release announcements given in the topic
[14:28] <sil3nt|warri0r> k
[14:29] <wers> Mamarok, oooh. so what metapackage do i install for the most bare kde 4.3 like kde-core in older versions?
[14:29] <Mamarok> wers: that would be kde-minimal I guess, but that comes with no bling at all
[14:30] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: i still have the problem with kdm :(
[14:30] <wers> so you think, kde-full is the way to go?
[14:30] <sena> Nulador: you can start the console with ctrl alt f1
[14:30] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: reinstall it, it will ask you if you want to make it default
[14:31] <Mamarok> wers: the best KDE 4.3 experience is with everything installed, indeed
[14:31] <sena> Nulador: then stop kdm with /etc/X11/kdm stop
[14:31] <shadeslayer> wers: +1
[14:31] <sil3nt|warri0r> Mamarok: u mean this http://kde.org/announcements/4.3/
[14:31] <sil3nt|warri0r> ?
[14:31] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: its asking me to terminate X...brb
[14:31] <login__> hi
[14:32] <sena> if it stucks do ctrl c to get back the konsole
[14:32] <sena> Nulador: then you can try to start kdm again
[14:32] <sena> with startx
[14:33] <wers> hmm. what's the package name of the network manager plasmoid on kubuntu kde 4.3?
[14:34] <wers> i didnt get that on kde-full
[14:34] <Arpharazon> Hello, I'm installing kubuntu 9.04 on a winxp machine with the intention of dual booting. I had a primary part. C: and a logical D:, I shrank D: to free up 20 GB for kubuntu. How should I set up my partitions?
[14:34] <sena> if it doesnt start you can look in the logs /var/log/messages or kernel or dmesg ..
[14:35] <Arpharazon>  
[14:35] <sena> sometimes the configuration file in /etc/X11/xorg.conf is a problem so you might try to find config file for your video card
[14:35] <Mamarok> Arpharazon: 20 GB, that's not exactly much for a full insnallation
[14:35] <Mamarok> Arpharazon: no way to gain more space?
[14:35] <lancerocke> hi all. i was messing with the wobbly windows settings and must have turned something up too high because all windows are going crazy. they are moving uncontrollably by themselves now. i cant do anything
[14:36] <Arpharazon> Mamarok: Back in 7.10 I was perfectly fine with 10. What takes up so much space? And no, not in the near future.
[14:37] <Arpharazon> Mamarok: Well if it's gonna crash and burn I *could* make it 30, maybe 40 GB but that would represent an enormous inconvenience to me.
[14:37] <Mamarok> Arpharazon: then split those up in half, 10 Gb for /, 10 Gb for /home, and of course you will need some swap space, too, double the RAM size is recommended
[14:38] <Mamarok> Arpharazon: get an external HD, those are really cheap nowadays, so you can put the D: on the external one a free that partition
[14:38] <Mamarok> and*
[14:38] <Arpharazon> magical: Well, I'm a college student. Those are really cheap nowadays, too. =p
[14:38] <Mamarok> ok, folks, I have to run, work calls
[14:39] <Arpharazon> Mamarok: Anyway, does swap or /. need to go anywhere in particular on the disk, and do any need to be primary?
[14:40] <Mamarok> Arpharazon: no, that doesn't matter where those are :)
[14:40] <Mamarok> ok, I'm off, later
[14:40] <Arpharazon> magical: excellent, tahnks
[14:40] <Arpharazon> er
[14:40] <Arpharazon> Mamarok. I meant Mamarok.
[14:41] <Arpharazon> also, any reason not to use ext4?
[14:44] <zhxk`> folks, i need enable runlevel at menu.lst so that have oppertunity choose to boot into cli or gdm, i've tried add a number at the end of paratmeters to kernel but it wont work, advice me, thank you!
[14:45] <Arpharazon> well, is there?
[14:45] <zhxk`> it wont wrk
[14:45] <zhxk`> it wont work
[14:48] <mits> hi... does anyone know if fglrx works in karmic? or if there's a patch to make it work
[14:48] <Pici> mits: Karmic support is in #ubuntu+1
[14:48] <mits> oops, thanx :)
[14:49] <zhxk`> folks, i need enable runlevel at menu.lst so that have oppertunity choose to boot into cli or gdm, i've tried add a number at the end of paratmeters to kernel but it wont work, advice me, thank you!
[14:59] <simonb2> Mamarok - I'm sorry for being stupid... but.. since i'm a newbie in these things, i found that lounchpad and some "xf86-input-evtouch_0.8.8.orig.tar.gz" file to download...
[14:59] <simonb2> so now, how to "update" the driver that is used from evdev?
[15:04] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: no go with the reinstall :(
[15:06] <BluesKaj> Howdy
[15:19] <marekt> hi, can you tell me what should i do to have two kubuntu installations at once (one 9.04 witouh expreiments, other - 9.10 alfa with latest everything just for filling bug reports), i have created 3 partitions one with 9.04 that is already installed, /home and third - for 9.10,
[15:19] <marekt> will this be enough if i put installation disc (9.10) and do the installations and i will see in grub system select?
[15:20] <martijn> hi, i updated my 9.04 to the latest kde4, but now plasma workpace does crach. What todo here?
[15:26] <karan> um
[15:26] <karan> i need help....
[15:26] <karan> i pluged in an extternal hard drive into kubuntu...
[15:26] <karan> but it is not regonizing it
[15:27] <karan> any help?
[15:28] <karan> somone help?
[15:39] <cF`Zuz|Wise-Assi> weird, knetworkmanager is catching every network around me but mine
[15:41] <zuz> ...
[15:41] <zuz> but knetworkmanager "was" my most reliable one
[15:52] <cor> hi. so I upgraded a KDE3.5 distro, to KDE4. Now I got both running! It's kinda cool, but I'd like to stop KDE3.5 launching altogether. How?
[15:53] <cor> sorry about the but, you know..
[15:53] <cor> *paste*
[15:54] <cor> My auto-updater thing says, "would you like to upgrade to the full kubuntu dekstop", I said Hell yes. So now I have 3.5 and 4 running together. Surely that isn't supposed to happen.
[15:57] <panguin> whats up kids.
[15:58] <ltrascendi> Ciao
[16:00] <panguin> join #girls
[16:07] <somekool> kubuntu is offering me a "partial upgrade" is this for 9.10 ???
[16:07] <somekool> cor: make sure you run KDE 4.3
[16:09] <somekool> that'd be kind of nice if the update manager could specify which version will be updated to what version for each updates .... just showing package name is not quite enoguh ...
[16:12] <cor> after all these years, package management still sucks
[16:13] <martijn81> cor: you do not think apt-get is fun?
[16:14] <cor> heh, I love it!
[16:14] <martijn81> then i do not know where you are complaining about
[16:15] <cor> I only just got used to the idea of using slackpkg in the last few years, so it's all kinda new to me. but I do imagine how it *could* be, and see the gap between that and the current reality of things
[16:15] <cor> the apt-family are pretty neat, but could still be miles better
[16:21] <cF`Zuz|Wise-Assi> i wish i could help cor, im not that far up in tech yet, just learning it
[16:24] <nidal> hi all,  after upgrading to kde 4.3(from rc3) in kubuntu 9.04,  by deault its booting in to console . But I can use startx to get GUI . Is there any way to change it to boot in to GUI by default ?
[16:25] <nidal> I googled and found some way by editing some rc files and all, but was wondering whether there is any simple way for the same.
[16:28] <cor> sudo aptitude reinstall kdm perhaps
[16:28] <cor> except without the "perhaps", of course
[16:28] <theadmin> Help me... Not sure if this is the right place... but... Well, the problem: I've installed Firefox on my Kubuntu machine and i have NO idea where it saves downloaded files. WTF.
[16:29] <Pici> nidal: This should work: sudo update-rc.d kdm defaults
[16:29] <theadmin> It never asks, either
[16:29] <rohanrhu> hello
[16:30] <rohanrhu> how to remove gnome in kubuntu
[16:30] <nidal> thakns a lot Pici , but I had done that ; but it said  System startup links for /etc/init.d/kdm already exist.
[16:30] <Dragnslcr> theadmin- should be in Preferences -> Downloads
[16:30] <Dragnslcr> !purekde | rohanrhu
[16:30] <rohanrhu> it's running in background always
[16:30] <cor> i gotta figure out how to disable join/part messages in this client, it's crazy!
[16:30] <rohanrhu> thanks
[16:31] <cF`Zuz|Wise-Assi> cor did you figure out how to remove it?
[16:31] <theadmin> Dragnslcr: I think somethings a bit wrong here, cause i could not find "Preferences" anywhere. I thought so too at first
[16:32] <Dragnslcr> theadmin- it's under the Edit menu (I wish they would fix that)
[16:32] <theadmin> Oh... ROFL... weird.
[16:32] <Dragnslcr> Exactly
[16:32] <cor> remove KDE3.5? no.
[16:32] <cor> It's a linux thing
[16:33] <Dragnslcr> It's an interface convention from 10 years ago, but for whatever reason they haven't fixed it in the Linux version. The Windows version has it under Tools
[16:33] <nidal> cor, thanks, I have done that (aptitude reinstall kdm) just now; let me try rebooting
[16:33] <cor> lots of Linux GUI stuff is insane
[16:33] <cor> good luck!
[16:33] <cor> but I would have went with the other suggestion, I think
[16:34] <cor> heh too late
[16:34] <theadmin> Okay, thank you a lot, Dragnslcr.
[16:34] <cor> I have this feeling that is I comment out one single line *somewhere*, then I will be gree of KDE3.5, but that's just a hunch
[16:34] <cor> *free
[16:44] <cF`Zuz|Wise-Assi> cor did you get my message?
[16:44] <nidal> cor that( aptitude reinstall kdm) too is not working ! any other suggestion ?
[16:45] <cF`Zuz|Wise-Assi> cor: this page might help http://www.larsen-b.com/Article/281.html
[16:46] <cor> soz, got a visitor, back in a bit
[16:49]  * the_madman waves
[16:50] <the_madman> So I wanted to know, I'm using Gentoo with KDE 4 and the latest (working) nvidia proprietary drivers, but occasionally when I open a window it opens entirely black.
[16:50] <actarus> parla italiano
[16:50] <the_madman> I've never experienced this in Kubuntu, though, so I wondered if it's a driver/X configuration problem?
[16:51] <BluesKaj> the_madman, that question is best asked in #gentoo or #kde
[16:52] <the_madman> OK, thanks. I'll do that.
[16:55] <cor> F`Zuz|Wise-Assi, thanks for the link, gonna check it out
[16:57] <cF`Zuz|Wise-Assi> cor: let me know if it works please  ;)
[17:03] <tommy_the-dragon> anyone know how to get KMouth working?
[17:05] <Kingfish> anyone know if there is a mythbuntu channel on irc?
[17:07] <martijn81> i have dist-upgraded my 9.04 installation to the latest kde4 but now my soundkart does not work anymore... any help?
[17:08] <martijn81> KingOfDos: try /list
[17:08] <KingOfDos> martijn81: wrong tabcompletion ;)
[17:08] <martijn81> hehe, oops
[17:09] <martijn81> i am sorry
[17:09] <KingOfDos> he quitted
[17:09] <KingOfDos> no problem ;)
[17:09] <KingOfDos> i'm just waiting till the trafic moves a bit
[17:09] <martijn81> yeah :)
[17:11] <cor> holy sheeeet!
[17:12] <cor> the following packages will be removed.. then it scrolls for a few pages
[17:12] <cor> I have this sinking feeling that I'm about to make the system unusable.heh, och well, I have backups.
[17:13] <cor> actually, no. looking at the list, I see that pretty much the entire BackTrack functionality is included. however, it's a nice list to pick packages *from*. thanks.#
[17:14] <cF`Zuz|Wise-Assi> ;)
[17:14] <cF`Zuz|Wise-Assi> so it worked?
[17:15] <simonb1> why could be, that X says: Option "Rotate" will not be used...?
[17:16] <simonb1> i try to rotate my touchscreen
[17:19] <cor> well, no, but only because I didn't go ahead. as well as KDE3.5, it would have removed Backtrack altogether, and then it ceases to be a Backtrack system :/
[17:19] <cor> It works fine with KDE3.5 AND 4.2 together, actually, it works amazingly well. It's just that I've got to fight to get any desktop preferences to stick
[17:20] <cor> nothing major.
[17:30] <aftertaf> hello. i think i need to play around with my keyboard settings . . . .  can anyone help ?
[17:31] <aftertaf> I have just bought a luminous keyboard for night time IRCing and it is turned on/off by Scroll Lock button, which does nothing in X :( I tested that its not busted on a XP box . . .
[17:37] <cor> probably something in /dev/input/event*
[17:37] <aftertaf> thx cor ill look
[17:38] <cor> there are quite a few packages available for special keyboard events and such - you might want to rake around your package manager before you dive in with bash
[17:39] <cor> of course, you may simply need to add something to your xorg.conf or similar
[17:41] <sergiom> hey there
[17:41] <sergiom> quick question
[17:41] <sergiom> how can I change KDE4 sound theme?
[17:46] <sergiom> no theme options in systemsettings
[17:47] <cor> not a "theme", no, but you can change the individual sounds.
[17:47] <cor> post a bug ;o)
[17:48] <sergiom> but the app I need to add a sound for, does not appear
[17:48] <aftertaf> cor seemes to be 'add mod3 = Scroll_Lock ' to Xmodmap the trick. will test on reboot :)
[17:50] <cor> kewl
[17:50] <cor> sergiom, my next move wopuld probably be to look for the pref file and add a section for it
[17:50] <sergiom> any hint
[17:52] <apparle> hi guys
[17:52] <wang_> hi
[17:53] <mirash> i need to setup internet in my kubuntu
[17:53] <wang_> what are you  doning
[17:53] <mirash> need some assistance
[17:53] <wang_> what do you need
[17:54] <mirash> i hav connected the ethernet
[17:54] <cor> that was the hint
[17:54] <mirash> i need a pppoe login
[17:54] <mirash> how can i ?
[17:55] <wang_> network connect
[17:55] <apparle> which type of connection is it
[17:55] <wang_> DSL  tab
[17:55] <wang_> Add
[17:56] <wang_> then enter user name and psw
[17:59] <mirash> what
[17:59] <mirash> how can I install pppoe?
[18:00] <apparle> mirash: you don't need to install anything........just onnect your modem and do what wang_ said
[18:00] <mirash> its not working
[18:00] <mirash> network: command not found
[18:01] <apparle> goto network connections not the command
[18:01] <apparle> right click on the network manager beside the clock
[18:01] <mirash> then
[18:02] <apparle> goto DSL tab
[18:02] <mirash> DSL tab not active
[18:02] <apparle> send me a screenshot
[18:03] <mirash> I cant, now I am in mandriva
[18:03] <cor> Don't ask me networking questions. my first response will always be: uninstall Network Manager
[18:04] <apparle> then I can't help.........coz I myself don't have pppoe and now I am on a friends comp
[18:04] <mirash> is there any way I can connect to the internet?
[18:04] <cor> put IPCop on an old laptop
[18:05] <cor> ppp is too lowly a taks for your personal computer
[18:05] <cor> *task
[18:05] <apparle> cor: If you are able to get it working fine then why to uninstall it??
[18:05] <cor> see, that's the answer right there!
[18:05] <cor> so long as you don't want to *DO ANYTHING* then network manager isa perfect
[18:05] <mirash> where can I get suppport?
[18:06] <cor> but if you have any non-standard, non-dhcp network needs, pfff...
[18:06] <BluesKaj> cor , my answer for jaunty users is install wicd network manager
[18:07] <apparle> Guys anyone tried 4.3
[18:07] <mirash> can I connect through pppoe?
[18:07] <BluesKaj> apparle, I'm using it now
[18:07] <apparle> BluesKaj: how is it
[18:08] <BluesKaj> mirash, try support at #mandriva
[18:09] <mirash> wht
[18:09] <mirash> why
[18:09] <BluesKaj> apparle, seems fine , altho I'm running karmic , there a few plasma blackouts , but not serious
[18:10] <BluesKaj> you're in mandriva , this si kubuntu , totally diff OS
[18:10] <BluesKaj> err is
[18:10] <apparle> BluesKaj: what all important features you think are upgraded. Your opinion
[18:11] <BluesKaj> yes , quite stable now apparle
[18:11] <apparle> BluesKaj: waht all new features have been added, ( which you think are important)
[18:12] <mirash> hey man, I need to first connect to web in order to come here using kubuntu
[18:12] <apparle> ok
[18:13] <BluesKaj> mirash, you said earlier that you're on mandriva...why are you asking for help in here ?
[18:13] <mirash> i hav two PCs
[18:13] <apparle> Guys mirash is trying to get help for kubuntu  but as he can't connect to net from there, so he is using madriva
[18:14] <apparle> mirash: do you have kubutnu started on other PC
[18:14] <mirash> Absolutely!
[18:14] <BluesKaj> ok mirash , thanks for clarifying that
[18:15] <mirash> Ya
[18:15] <BluesKaj> or apparle I mean :)
[18:15] <apparle> :)
[18:15] <mirash> Any idea?
[18:16] <BluesKaj> mirash, still think wicd network manager is the way to go , download the app in mandriva and put it on a usb stick and copy it to kubuntu
[18:17] <apparle> maybe DSL tab is greyed because you have not connected the modem................... I can't help as I don't have PPPOE
[18:22] <mirash1> no way
[18:23] <mirash1> where canI get wicd?
[18:24] <BluesKaj> it's prolly in your mandriva sources package manager
[18:24] <BluesKaj> or get it with rather
[18:24] <mirash1> rather?
[18:25] <mirash1> oh my god
[18:25] <mirash1> if i where in windows
[18:25] <Pici> http://packages.ubuntu.com
[18:29] <BluesKaj> mirash, you couls always download it in windows and copy it like aI said
[18:29] <BluesKaj> aI=I
[18:30] <BluesKaj> I have to go , I'll hand this off to you Pici , if you don't mind
[18:32] <Pici> He left anyway..
[18:34] <apparle> mirash: problem solved or not yet
[18:35] <cor> I tried wicd, but only after I uninstalled all those so-called user-friendly systems and interacted with the raw files, did it start to do what I wanted. ymmv
[18:44] <apparle> sometimes my ATI Radeon Xpress 200 works fine with the open source drivers.......but sometimes it doesn't enable compositing and hence the desktop effects are disabled........why is this happening
[18:44] <apparle> a restart fixes it but is again disabled after restarting 2-3 times
[18:45] <apparle> !ati
[18:50] <apparle> who all have installed 4.3?
[18:51] <shadeslayer> me
[18:56] <apparle> shadeslayer: how is it
[18:56] <shadeslayer> apparle: awesomely broken
[18:56] <apparle> example
[18:57] <shadeslayer> apparle: on login plasma-desktop wont start...so basically you have no desktop
[18:57] <kaddi> hi, i just updated to firefox3.5.2 and now FF doesn't find the java plugin anymore.. anyone had this issue and knows how to resolve it?
[18:58] <shadeslayer> apparle: use it only if you desprately want it and can fix minor problems....rest of KDE 4.3 is stable
[19:01] <apparle> did you try seperately install kde-window-manager I read it on a forum that it will fix it
[19:02] <shadeslayer> apparle: nope
[19:02] <apparle> then try it.............wait I'll snd you the exact link
[19:03] <shadeslayer> apparle: its already installed
[19:03] <apparle> then update it
[19:03] <mit> how do I add a user?
[19:03] <mit> did useradd
[19:03] <shadeslayer> mit: sudo adduser
[19:03] <mit> did, kde won't let me sign in
[19:04] <shadeslayer> apparle: do you have a fix for my kdm? i loads up pretty late
[19:04] <mit> http://pastebin.com/m25ef052f <- any idea why my plasma crashes on startup?
[19:04] <shadeslayer> apparle: nothing in updates
[19:05] <apparle> shadeslayer: see this.....maybe it will help http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3105512.0
[19:06] <shadeslayer> apparle: no you didnt understand.... anyways im pretty happy with KDE right now :)
[19:16] <apparle> why is KDE4.3 packages put into PPA and not the main repo??
[19:17] <tyrone> hello i am using ubuntu 9.04 and I just installed kde 4.3 is there a way to have different startup programs for gnome and kde ?
[19:20] <tyrone> and is it possible to have like a gnome tab on the menu? because i have twice as many applications on the menu as i need
[19:20] <Dragnslcr> apparle- because KDE 4.3 isn't officially supported on Kubuntu 9.04
[19:21] <apparle> Dragnslcr: why is it not supported
[19:21] <Dragnslcr> tyrone- if you click the Advanced button in the Autostart settings, there's an option to only start in KDE
[19:21] <Dragnslcr> apparle- because it wasn't available when 9.04 was released, and therefore hasn't been fully tested
[19:21] <tyrone> Dragnslcr: thanks do i do that on kde or gnome
[19:22] <Dragnslcr> In KDE
[19:22] <Dragnslcr> I haven't used Gnome in years, so I can't really help you on that side
[19:22] <HailandKill> I've added the medibuntu repo to hardy but can't find the acroread package... is it still in medibuntu?
[19:24] <apparle> why is a new version of kubutnu released when KDE releases a new version
[19:25] <apparle> Dragnslcr: why is a new version of kubutnu released when KDE releases a new version
[19:25] <Dragnslcr> There isn't
[19:26] <Dragnslcr> Ubuntu has its own release schedule, independent of any other project
[19:26] <apparle> but it seems that it releases quite in a sync with GNOME releases
[19:29] <Dragnslcr> I don't pay attention to Gnome releases, so I wouldn't really know if Gnome just happens to have a release every 6 months
[19:32] <tyrone> Dragnslcr: Do you know what akonadi does
[19:32] <tyrone> ?
[19:33] <Dragnslcr> apparle- well, if Wikipedia's list is correct, Gnome is on a six-month release schedule. Ubuntu may have purposely lined up with that schedule, but I couldn't tell you for sure
[19:34] <apparle> So I was wondering why linup with Ubuntu schedule rather than KDE schedule
[19:34] <afeijo> why are blocked the kernel updates?
[19:34] <Dragnslcr> apparle- because Ubuntu is a Gnome-focused distribution
[19:35] <Dragnslcr> afeijo- KPackageKit does an apt upgrade instead of a dist-upgrade, so it doesn't do updates that require new packages (such as new kernels)
[19:35] <Dragnslcr> afeijo- you can do a dist-upgrade normally from Konsole to get them
[19:36] <afeijo> I only use console, I will try dist-upgrade thanks
[19:36] <Brian_> what do you guys think of kde 4.3
[19:38] <cF`Zuz|Wise-Assi> seems faster so far
[19:39] <Dragnslcr> apparle- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases seems to say that the release schedule is primarily because of Gnome's schedule
[19:40] <cF`Zuz|Wise-Assi> it just seems like the graphics performance isnt as good as when I had windows on, something must be wrong because with 512MB DDR2 ram, the games and video/movies played better in windows then in kubuntu even after i added an extra 1 gb ram
[19:41] <cF`Zuz|Wise-Assi> browsing with Opera is ridiculously faster then firefox but i cant get flash to work on Opera (latest version)
[19:42] <cF`Zuz|Wise-Assi> even after doing the firefox tweaks to make it faster (turning network.http.pipelining on, etc...)
[19:52] <apparle> quit
[19:54] <Aule> how last version amarok?
[19:54] <Aule> update
[20:09] <cF`Zuz|Wise-Assi> when was amarok last updated?
[20:09] <cF`Zuz|Wise-Assi> aule
[20:10] <Aule> 2.0.2 how update to last version
[20:12] <Freddy2> hi
[20:12] <Freddy2> the whole 4.2.x series is officially supported by jaunty?
[20:12] <Freddy2> i mean, incoming updates should be also updated in repos?
[20:13] <Aule> about amarok
[20:28] <xircx> hmm elite i have like 3 irc clients on my pc
[20:28] <xircx> ;\
[20:33] <oem> i my name is ric
[20:33] <nacho_> i have a problem with my laptop, it shuts down when i open flash video, and i think its getting hot, maybe some app is getting it hot
[20:33] <oem> i finish to install kubuntu kde 4.1 my problem is this
[20:33] <oem> sysinfo
[20:33] <oem> Sysinfo for 'ubuntu': Linux 2.6.27-7-generic running KDE 4.1.2 (KDE 4.1.2), CPU: PentiumIII(Coppermine) at 801 MHz (1603 bogomips), HD: 1/4GB, RAM: 104/106MB, 103 proc's, 17.45min up
[20:34] <oem> then my system run very low,
[20:34] <oem> how i can solve this problem
[20:35] <what_if> oem: way more ram. 512MB would be reasonable
[20:36] <Daskreech> Oh wait that's 1/4 GB ? I was reading it as 4 GB
[20:36] <Daskreech> Oh wait that's his HDD >_>
[20:36] <what_if> 250mb hd
[20:36] <what_if> ?
[20:36] <oem> i could xubuntu desktop, o what desktop u recommende to my system??
[20:36] <Daskreech> oem: You wil have issues with KDe and Gnome with those specs
[20:37] <Daskreech> Xubuntu LXDE Fluxbox
[20:37] <what_if> oem: Puppy linux, DSL Linux... etc
[20:37] <Daskreech> OpenBox
[20:37] <oem> what is the better of this desktop??
[20:37] <Daskreech> he can run ubuntu style Distros just not teh DEs
[20:37] <tommy_the-dragon> when my friend was first learning ubuntu he typed sudo apt-get uninstall instead of remove. it responded with apt-get does not have magic cow power rather than with the usual invalid operation
[20:37] <Daskreech> oem: The one that you like.
[20:37] <tommy_the-dragon> why? how? who? wtf?
[20:38] <oem> xubuntu = xfce????
[20:38] <Daskreech> oem: Yes
[20:38] <what_if> tommy_the-dragon: do: "apt-get moo"
[20:38] <Daskreech> for the most part it's heavier than Xfce since they have madness like firefox
[20:38] <tommy_the-dragon> lol
[20:39] <tommy_the-dragon> WTF?!?
[20:39] <xircx> -.-
[20:39] <what_if> lol=WTF
[20:39] <oem> what is the desktop more eay to locate the things wich u need??
[20:39] <oem> easy..
[20:39] <Daskreech> tommy_the-dragon: Please stop that
[20:40] <Daskreech> oem: What is it that you need?
[20:40] <nacho_> i have a problem with my laptop, it shuts down when i open flash video fullscreen, and i think its getting hot, maybe some app is getting it hot
[20:40] <tommy_the-dragon> whats it all about?
[20:40] <epqr> Hi
[20:40] <tommy_the-dragon> stop what? swearing?
[20:40] <epqr> i just updated to KDE 2.3 It works fine execpt amarok always stoppes after one song.
[20:41] <epqr> Like it doesn't continue the playlist
[20:41] <what_if> nacho_: AFAIK flash on linux fullscreen is broken... since it it closed source no way to fix. Can anyone second that ?
[20:41] <epqr> 4.3*
[20:41] <Daskreech> tommy_the-dragon: Yes
[20:41] <tommy_the-dragon> ok sorry
[20:41] <Daskreech> tommy_the-dragon: What is what about?
[20:41] <oem> thanks daskreech
[20:41] <Daskreech> epqr: Strange do you have repeat one song on?
[20:42] <tommy_the-dragon> well searching in google for "magic cow power" comes up with no results and if i type sudo apt-get uninstall the message doesnt come up anymore
[20:42] <tommy_the-dragon> and were both sitting here very confuddled :p
[20:42] <epqr> Daskreech no
[20:42] <tommy_the-dragon> and amused lol
[20:42] <Daskreech> epqr: Hmm jump into #amarok and see if they have heard of it
[20:43] <epqr> will do
[20:43] <tsimpson> tommy_the-dragon: try "aptitude moo", then "aptitude -v moo", then "aptitude -vv moo", then keep adding one 'v'
[20:43] <xircx> o.O
[20:43] <xircx> moo
[20:44] <xircx> wow linux has become way better
[20:44] <xircx> wine now suports alot of apps for windows cross over
[20:44] <tommy_the-dragon> lol
[20:45] <xircx> amsn is alot better then normal windows live messenger
[20:45] <tommy_the-dragon> nice easter eggs
[20:45] <Freddy2> xircx: need windows? then launch it in virtualbox.. that's easy
[20:45] <xircx> for real though i have kubuntu, win vista, and win7 installed on my pc and i only use kubuntu now
[20:46] <xircx> i dont need windows :P its usless now
[20:46] <xircx> and i have virbox installed already :P
[20:48] <Ahmuck-Jr> where can i find cd art?
[20:49] <Daskreech> Ahmuck-Jr: to print on the CD ?
[20:49] <Daskreech> oem: What do you need to find?
[20:50] <oem> all programs and configurations
[20:50]  * KiRiLoS Heya
[20:50] <Ahmuck-Jr> yes to print on the cd
[20:51] <Daskreech> oem: tried alt+f2?
[20:51] <oem> thanks daskreech
[20:51] <Daskreech> Ahmuck-Jr: I would expect some community on the net
[20:51] <Daskreech> !hi | KiRiLoS
[20:52] <xircx> are you looking for a free software for light scribe>
[20:52] <xircx> ?
[20:52] <Ahmuck-Jr> no, i'm looking for a jpg i can print on a cd label
[20:52] <Ahmuck-Jr> for giving away cd's at out county fair this evening
[20:52] <Daskreech> Ahmuck-Jr: Oh! for kubuntu?
[20:53] <Ahmuck-Jr> yes
[20:54] <Daskreech> good question
[20:54] <Ahmuck-Jr> well, i leave in an hour, and whatever cd labels i can find to print on will be those that are going to the fair
[20:54] <what_if> http://images.google.com/images?q=kubuntu+logo
[20:54] <Daskreech> Ahmuck-Jr: http://www.kubuntu-art.org
[20:55] <xircx> ^^ good ones
[20:55] <xircx> your giving away kubunu distros :|
[20:55] <Yuki> This is weird. I used the hardware rfkill switch to turn off the wifi card, now networkmanager refuses to deal with it? :/
[20:56] <Yuki> it's configured and enabled according to knetworkmanager
[20:56] <Ahmuck-Jr> some distros provide a "press kit" or a "advocacy, distrobution kit"
[20:56] <Ahmuck-Jr> i assume that kubuntu doesn't really provide this
[20:56] <Daskreech> Riddell: ping
[20:56] <Ahmuck-Jr> xircx: sure
[20:56] <Yuki> ]
[20:56] <Ahmuck-Jr> we give away whole computers too
[20:57] <xircx> give me a computer :|
[20:57] <Yuki> Why has there been such a massive shunning of gnome in the linux-sphere in regards to major/commercial distros? :(
[20:57] <xircx> i wont a amd quade core if you have one
[20:57] <Yuki> SuSE used to be so wonderful... and now they default to gnome....
[20:57] <Ahmuck-Jr> xircx: lol, we give away 800mhz, 256mb ram with xubuntu
[20:57] <epqr> If xine is the only backend listed in "Sound and Video Configuration" does that mean it is the preffered one ?
[20:57] <tommy_the-dragon> me too please :)
[20:57] <xircx> oh forget that lol
[20:58]  * Yuki reminisces of when he walked into best buy and bought a copy of SuSE 7.2 Pro with support and manuals and everything
[20:58] <xircx> 800mhz :P
[20:58] <Yuki> I wonder why best buy stopped selling linux :)
[20:58] <xircx> bestbuy only had linspire last them i seen linux there
[20:58] <xircx> and linspire sucks
[20:59] <Ahmuck-Jr> well, thx anyway
[20:59] <Daskreech> nixternal: ping too
[20:59] <Yuki> Mine used to have a whole shelving unit just for linux distros
[20:59]  * Ahmuck-Jr goes off to find more distros
[20:59] <Yuki> \\
[20:59] <xircx> i only have the ubuntu distros
[20:59] <Yuki> from redhat to suse to xandros
[21:00] <xircx> they have been the best to install
[21:00] <Yuki> you could literally walk in and buy a box copy with full set of CDs or DVDs (suse had both in a big folder, 7 cds and 1 dvd)
[21:00] <Yuki> with manuals and pre-paid installation support
[21:00] <xircx> realy
[21:01] <xircx> i was thinking about going to suse to give it a try but im more in favor of the KDE desktop now
[21:01] <xircx> KDE and Xfce are my faves
[21:01] <Daskreech> Yuki: Shunning of Gnome?
[21:02] <xircx> brb going to the store
[21:02] <peterz> Daskreech: gnome is like the iphone, only their world view counts
[21:02] <Brian_> i need some help i just updated to kde 4.3 and after i did a restart my desktop background was gone and in its place was just a checker board pattern. also the cashew in the corner was gone
[21:03] <Daskreech> Brian_: you have a new activity it looks like
[21:04] <Brian_> but why would the plasma cashew be gone if that was the case
[21:04] <Freddy2> why panels appear on all activities? can't this be changed? (even using another panel-like plasmoid)
[21:05] <Daskreech> Brian_: click on the desktop and press alt+D alt+S
[21:05] <Daskreech> see what happens
[21:05] <Brian_> nothing happened
[21:05] <JuJuBee> I use 64 bit kubuntu. What can I use as a pdf viewer besides okular?
[21:05] <Brian_> i cant even right click on the desktop
[21:06] <Yuki> does ubuntu have a 'kde-games' style package?
[21:06] <Riddell> Daskreech: hi
[21:06] <latemara> how can i connect to IRCNET?
[21:06] <Daskreech> Riddell: Someone was in here asking about an advocacy kit for Kubuntu
[21:06] <Brian_> when i add a new panel the cashew isnt their
[21:06] <nacho_> yuki: yeah
[21:06] <Yuki> apt-get install kde-games didn't work. :P
[21:07] <Daskreech> Do we have things like an about Kubuntu PDf and a Cd art kit to print on to CDs ?
[21:07] <latemara> how can  connect to ircnet, can someone help me
[21:07] <nacho_> yuki: apt-cache search games kde
[21:08] <Yuki> heh. kde-amusements, okay. ;)
[21:09] <Daskreech> Riddell: I'm actually not even sure if Ubuntu has a kit like that
[21:10] <nacho_> yuki: apt-cache search kdegames
[21:10] <Daskreech> Brian_: can you press alt=F2 ?
[21:10] <twoaday> latemara: try this URL might be what u are looking for http://webchat.xs4all.nl/index.php
[21:10] <twoaday> is for ircnet
[21:10] <Yuki> oh, just kdegames and not kde-games
[21:10] <Yuki> haha
[21:10] <Yuki> i'm stupid
[21:10] <Brian_> ya and a search window pops up
[21:10] <Riddell> Daskreech: not really, Loco teams get stickers, CDs and some promo leaflets
[21:10] <Daskreech> !info kdegames
[21:10] <Riddell> (for Ubuntu Desktop mostly)
[21:10] <Yuki> wow, i already got it figured out! :P
[21:10] <Yuki> heh
[21:10] <Daskreech> Riddell: But there is none of the project in general?
[21:11] <latemara> i mean, how can i connect to ircnet with konversation
[21:11] <Daskreech> Yuki: Sorry :)
[21:11] <twoaday> aha
[21:11] <Brian_> i hit alt s and krunner settings opened
[21:11] <Yuki> is kdegames a metapackage or a package group ? :/
[21:11] <Brian_> Daskreech: will this help
[21:11] <Daskreech> Brian_: type plasma-desktop in the krunner
[21:12] <Daskreech> Riddell: Should we have one for Kubuntu?
[21:12] <Yuki> I don't know if my laptop could handle KDE4, heh
[21:12] <Brian_> nothing
[21:12] <Riddell> Daskreech: what would be included?
[21:13] <Daskreech> Essentially 4-5 bits of material that would make it more presentable to show the distro at say a convention
[21:13] <Daskreech> CD art. A poster, About Kubuntu PDF etc
[21:14] <Daskreech>  printed out and taken care of by the downloader
[21:14] <Brian_> so did kde 4.3 just screw up my desktop
[21:14] <Daskreech> Brian_: open konsole and check if plasma-desktop is running
[21:15] <Brian_> just type  "plasma-desktop"
[21:15] <Brian_> ?
[21:16] <Daskreech> ps aux | grep plasma
[21:16] <Daskreech> Yuki: what's the difference between a metapackage and a packagegroup?
[21:17] <Yuki> Daskreech: meta-packages show up as packages in the package manager, package groups allow me to browse say 'KDE' specific packages in the package manager
[21:17] <Alumin> So I just went to try restarting my network interface with "sudo ifdown eth0 ; sudo ifup eth0" and it says the interface isn't recognized...and sure enough there's nothing for eth0 in /etc/network/interfaces
[21:17] <Alumin> is there some new way to manage interfaces now?
[21:17] <Yuki> unlike how this KDE front-end to apt here works.. adept... just 'games' 'office' etc
[21:17] <Yuki> nothing i'm used to >:3
[21:18] <Brian_> i get  3135 2.2 4.4 296552 4580 ?   sl kdeinit4
[21:18] <Brian_> bunch of numbers
[21:18] <trampel> apologies if this has already been covered.  but does anything else see "Network Management is changing!" when hovering over a (new) wireless icon?
[21:20] <Brian_> Daskreech: should i just reinstall kde
[21:20] <Daskreech> Yuki: It's a metapackage
[21:20] <Daskreech> Brian_: You get kdeinit4 when you grep for plasma
[21:21] <Brian_> yes
[21:21] <Daskreech> ??
[21:21] <Daskreech> Hm
[21:22] <Daskreech> Can you pastebin that?
[21:22] <Brian_> the whole thing?
[21:22] <Daskreech> Yes please
[21:23] <Brian_> ok
[21:24] <Brian_> brian
[21:24] <Brian_> 1:24
[21:24] <Brian_> brian@netbook ~/Documents $ ps aux | grep plasma brian     3135  2.2  4.4 296552 45080 ?        Sl   13:02   0:18 kdeinit4: plasma [kdeinit] brian     3535  0.0  0.0   3336   800 pts/2    S+   13:16   0:00 grep --colour=auto plasma
[21:24] <FloodBotK1> Brian_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:26] <Brian_> i just did the update the kde 4.3
[21:27] <Romanticorp> vaya
[21:27] <ilya> Brian_: how is kde 4.3?
[21:27] <Brian_> well it messed up my desktop so far
[21:28] <Romanticorp> who speaks spanish?
[21:28] <Brian_> Daskreech is helping me figure out
[21:28] <Daskreech> !es
[21:28] <Daskreech> !paste | Brian_
[21:28] <Romanticorp> jujjujuju
[21:29] <Romanticorp> ok
[21:29] <Romanticorp> thank you
[21:29] <Romanticorp> :-)
[21:29] <rd> hello
[21:29] <rd> I installed kde on ubuntu and when I chenged my session setting my wifi no longer works
[21:29] <rd> I also no longer see the network manager icon in tray
[21:29] <Brian_> what do you want me to do
[21:29] <Romanticorp> me too
[21:29] <rd> any suggestions
[21:30] <Daskreech> Brian_: ok type kquitapp plasma ; kquitapp plasma-desktop
[21:30] <Romanticorp> i want the samen
[21:30] <Daskreech> rd: Add it back?
[21:30] <Romanticorp> same
[21:31] <rd> I reinstalled knetwrokmanager and network manager
[21:31] <rd> and it doesn't seem to recognize it
[21:32] <Brian_> kquitapp plasma ; kquitapp plasma-desktop <unknown program name>(4137)/: "Application plasma-desktop could not be found using service org.kde.plasma-desktop and path /MainApplication." 
[21:32] <Brian_> and my desktop turned black
[21:32] <rd> is there a known issue for this?
[21:33] <Romanticorp> Brian: is it the same in the install when the monitor is off?
[21:34] <Brian_> Romanticorp: i dont know what you mean
[21:34] <Romanticorp> :-) I wanted install kubuntu in my computer
[21:34] <Romanticorp> but the monitor...
[21:34] <Romanticorp> will off
[21:35] <Alumin> wow, "invoke-rc.d networking restart" doesn't seem to actually restart the network
[21:35] <juggz> Emulation
[21:35] <juggz> damn ir lmao
[21:35] <Alumin> I must be missing something here
[21:35] <Brian_> im about to just log into gnome and uninstall kubuntu desktop then reinstall it
[21:35] <Daskreech> Brian_: ok type mv ~/.kde/share/config/plasm* ~
[21:35] <Daskreech> Brian_: Then run plasma-desktop
[21:36] <juggz> i got a Emulation off the add or remove   but i dont know what to get the games to put on it?
[21:36] <Brian_> ok
[21:37] <Romanticorp> mmmmmm
[21:37] <Daskreech> Romanticorp: can You get to the command line?
[21:37] <Romanticorp> nop
[21:37] <Romanticorp> nothing
[21:38] <Daskreech> not even a TTY?
[21:38] <Romanticorp> i have a plasma monitor
[21:38] <Daskreech> !tty | Romanticorp
[21:38] <Brian_> bash:
[21:38] <rd> is there a way to reset the network manager?
[21:39] <Brian_> kquitapp plasma ; kquitapp plasma-desktop <unknown program name>(4137)/: "Application plasma-desktop could not be found using service org.kde.plasma-desktop and path /MainApplication." 
[21:39] <Romanticorp> o, ok
[21:39] <Daskreech> Brian_: what does plasma-desktop do ?
[21:40] <Brian_> bash: plasma-desktop: command not found
[21:40] <Brian_> should i apt-get plasma-desktop
[21:40] <Daskreech> Romanticorp: you can press alt+ctrl+F1 and then login and run the command sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[21:41] <Daskreech> Brian_: you had KDE 4.2 ?
[21:41] <rodrigo> alguien habla español?
[21:42] <Brian_> yes
[21:43] <Daskreech> Brian_: ah then you have not finished the upgrade run sudp apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[21:43] <Daskreech> !es | rodrigo
[21:44] <Daskreech> rd: remove the config file for it?
[21:44] <Brian_> ok now restart?
[21:44] <Daskreech> Brian_: sure
[21:45] <Brian_> Daskreech:  sure ???
[21:45] <Brian_> lol
[21:45] <Romanticorp> The romantic cat says: bye, bye
[21:46] <rd> Daskreech: where is that?
[21:48] <Brian_> ok now i have a new problem
[21:49] <Brian_> the panel at the top of the screen is half above the screen and there is a big black spot in the screen
[21:50] <Daskreech> Brian_: can You add a plasmoid?
[21:50] <Brian_> yes
[21:50] <Daskreech> rd: I would guess in the plasmoid settings in ~/.kde/share/config but I'm not fully certain
[21:51] <zuz> hey guys
[21:51] <Daskreech> rd:can you jump into #plasma and ask sebas?
[21:51] <Daskreech> !hi | zuz
[21:51] <zuz> ;)
[21:52] <Brian_> oh oko for some reason i have the bottem of the screen wrapping around to the top
[21:53] <zuz> I was thinking, when I play a movie or a game, for example Lincity, my screen gets choppy, with windows it didnt before, and I had 1GB ram less then I have now (its not a ram problem btw)
[21:55] <Brian_> how do i turn off compis i think that is whats messing up my desktop
[21:56] <Daskreech> Brian_: open a konsole and type kwin --replace
[21:58] <surfer27> hi guys.. anyone knows how to fix my parallel port on debian 5.02? I get following problem: "dmesg|grep par" : "parport_pc 00:05: disabled", "parport_pc: probe of 00:05 failed with error -22".
[21:58] <Brian_> no that didnt work   i still have the bottem panel showing up a little bit on the top of the screen . like its wrapping around to the top
[21:58] <zuz> Daskreech: Im trying to learn as much as possible and trying to research it before asking 90% of the questions, but sometimes i need to hear some help hehehe
[21:58] <zuz> are bin files like exe in windows?
[21:58] <zuz> as in I can use terminal and point to a bin file for installation for example, and it will install?
[21:59] <Dragnslcr> surfer27- pretty sure you're in the wrong channel
[22:00] <surfer27> ah, I should say I have the same problem on ubuntu 9.04, 8.1 and 8.04
[22:00] <Daskreech> Brian_: try kquitapp plasma-desktop ; sleep 10 ; plasma-desktop
[22:01] <Daskreech> zuz: Yes for all intents and purplses
[22:01] <Daskreech> purpose
[22:01] <Daskreech> s
[22:02] <zuz> cool
[22:03] <Brian_> Daskreech:  is that all one command
[22:03] <Daskreech> Brian_: yes with the ;
[22:03] <Daskreech> the ; seperates them (it's really 3 commands just done as one)
[22:04] <Daskreech> surfer27: The parallel port shouldn't be disabled I think
[22:04] <Brian_> it says pplication plasma-desktop could not be found using service org.kde.plasma-desktop and path /mainapplication
[22:05] <Daskreech> did it kill your desktop?
[22:05] <Brian_> no
[22:07] <surfer27> Daskreech: how do I enable the parallel port?
[22:08] <Daskreech> Brian_: hmm kquitapp
[22:08] <Brian_> the screen is stil wrapping
[22:08] <surfer27> Daskreech: it's a fresh installed debian...
[22:10] <Brian_> this is getting really old
[22:11] <Brian_> the login window is fine it just when i login  then at the top  of my screen i can see the bottem of the bottem panel
[22:12] <Daskreech> surfer27: MIght be kernel issue check in launcpad and bugs.debian.org
[22:13] <Brian_> lol ok now i did a restart the screen is not wrapping around anymore but the background is checkardboard again
[22:13] <Daskreech> Brian_: with no settings for it?
[22:14] <Brian_> no settings for what
[22:14] <slow-motion> hi
[22:15] <zuz> is it normal to get a fuzzy looking screen right before logging in?
[22:15] <zuz> like a distortion
[22:15] <Daskreech> Brian_: If you right click on it can you get settigns?
[22:15] <DevilChaos> hi guys just started using kubuntu and have a few newbie questrions
[22:15] <Brian_> oh ya  no settings
[22:16] <DevilChaos> why cant i login to terminal as root?
[22:16] <Brian_> sudo su
[22:17] <Daskreech> !hi | slow-motion
[22:17] <slow-motion> hi Daskreech
[22:17] <Daskreech> Brian_: and no cashew ?
[22:17] <Brian_> yup
[22:17] <zuz> so is it normal for that to happen to our screen?
[22:17] <Brian_> back to where we started
[22:17] <DevilChaos> sweet thanks next question im trying to look at softare to install and i keep getting an error message which is A problem that we were not expecting has occurred.
[22:17] <DevilChaos> Please report this bug with the error description.
[22:17] <DevilChaos> and the details are
[22:17] <Daskreech> Brian_: Pop with me into #plasma ?
[22:18] <DevilChaos> Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)
[22:18] <Brian_> ok
[22:18] <Daskreech> DevilChaos: What is throwing that error?
[22:18] <DevilChaos> system settings add remove sofetware window
[22:19] <DevilChaos> sorry my typing leaves much to be desired
[22:19] <Daskreech> Brian_: What happens when you tpe plasma-desktop in konsole ?
[22:21] <Brian_> bash: plasma-desktop command not found
[22:21] <Daskreech> Brian_: do  you have a plasma command?
[22:22] <Brian_> i dont think so
[22:22] <Daskreech> type which plasma
[22:22] <Parfet> is there a known compatablilty issue with the broadcom 4306 wireless chipset? i just installed kubuntu 9.04 and updated everything, but it still won't work, just says wlan : unavailable... i'm kinda new to linux, so be gentle ;)
[22:23] <zuz> Daskreech: is it normal to get a fuzzy looking screen right before logging in? like a distortion?
[22:23] <Brian_> i dont understand
[22:23] <Daskreech> zuz: what video card
[22:24] <DevilChaos> daskreech:manual conf of driver for the broadcom wireless?
[22:24] <Brian_> ok i got  /usr/bin/plasma
[22:24] <Daskreech> Brian_: there is a command called which
[22:24] <Daskreech> Brian_: ok type which plasma-desktop
[22:24] <Parfet> that's me, how do i configure it manually?
[22:25] <Brian_> nothing
[22:25] <DevilChaos> so what is an internal system error?
[22:26] <DevilChaos> you need to install moduleassistant
[22:26] <simonb1> guys, relating to my usbtouchscreen problem (swapped x and y)... how to add that swap_xy=1 parameter to it?!
[22:26] <DevilChaos> parfet
[22:26] <simonb1> where to insert that line?
[22:27] <Parfet> @devil; i'm not sure, it recognizes it as a wireless lan, and my belkin usb works fine... module assistant you say?
[22:27] <DevilChaos> yes you should get it through add remove programs
[22:27] <zuz> Daskreech: i cant even find what kind of video card i got
[22:28] <DevilChaos> zuz: do lspci in console please?
[22:28] <Daskreech> zuz: sudo lshw -C video
[22:28] <Daskreech> Brian_: >_<
[22:28] <Daskreech> Brian_: You don't have kDE4.3 then
[22:29] <zuz> RS482 [Radeon Xpress 200M]
[22:29] <zuz> do you have all that memorized? or do you have somewhere where you can see all those commands easy?
[22:29] <zuz> like a really good database with commands and description... lol
[22:30] <Brian_> in konqueror it says i have version 4.3.00 (kde 4.3.0)
[22:30] <zuz> clock 66MHz omg
[22:30] <Daskreech> Brian_: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade says you have no upgrades available ?
[22:32] <DevilChaos> daskreech:what is the command for sofetware removale so that i can stop a dependancy conflict in progress?
[22:32] <DevilChaos> trying to install jajuk but need to stop it think thats causing my problem
[22:33] <Brian_> itlibkabcommon4: Depends: kdepimlibs5 (>= 4:4.3.0) but 4:4.2.2-0ubuntu1 is installed                 Depends: libkdepim4  4:4.3.0-0ubuntu1~jaunty1~ppa1) but 4:4.2.2-0ubuntu1 is installed E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f.
[22:33] <Daskreech> DevilChaos: sudo apt-get remove jajuk
[22:34] <DevilChaos> cheers dude
[22:34] <Daskreech> Brian_: try sudo apt-get -f install
[22:34] <DevilChaos> kubuntu kicks ass
[22:34] <DevilChaos> best debian dir that i have used hated ubuntu for so long its unreal
[22:35] <Brian_> Daskreech: its installing somthing
[22:35] <Daskreech> Brian_: ^_^
[22:36] <Brian_> which is also in package ktimetracker
[22:36] <Brian_> dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
[22:36] <Brian_> Errors were encountered while processing:
[22:36] <Brian_> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[22:36] <FloodBotK1> Brian_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:36] <Daskreech> DevilChaos: Umm debian is basically debian for installing and removing it's the same across all the distros
[22:36] <Daskreech> Brian_: use paste.ubuntu.com
[22:36] <DevilChaos> yup yup
[22:37] <Brian_> the problem with that is im talkibn to you on a differant computer than im trying to fix
[22:37] <DevilChaos> havent been this exited since i was nine lol
[22:37] <DevilChaos> lol
[22:37] <surfer27> Does anyone know where shared libraries must reside? I get the following problem now: "proggy: error while loading shared libraries: libblah.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" ... but the lib is in /usr/local/lib ..
[22:38] <Brian_> do you have msn messanger i can past on their
[22:38] <DevilChaos> cheers for the help :)
[22:39] <Daskreech> Brian_: I know what the error is I'm just trying to say that's how you stop the floodbot smacking you
[22:39] <simonb1> i am looking for "/etc/modprobe.conf" in my 8.10.... isn't there any?
[22:39] <Brian_> oh
[22:40] <Daskreech> Brian_: hmm might have to dial back some depends. Try sudo apt-get remove ktimetracker
[22:41] <Brian_> ok it said try to apt-get -f  install
[22:43] <Parfet> i'll have to ask again later, the library is closing
[22:43] <Brian_> Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/kontact_4%3a4.3.0-0ubuntu1~jaunty1~ppa1_i386.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[22:43] <Brian_> would it be easyer to just log into gnome then uninstall kubuntu and start fresh
[22:44] <dajomu> I have asked this once before but I had to leave the computer and any reply, if any, is lost. I am using a 24-hour clock in tray kde4.3 and like now it says 11:43 pm. how do I remove the am/pm thing. don't really need that
[22:45] <Daskreech> Brian_: same issues
[22:47] <Daskreech> Brian_: Just have to sort out what is causing the issue and work around it
[22:47] <Brian_> ok
[22:49] <Brian_> they all say error were encountered while processing var/cache/apt/archives/kontact ubuntu=jaunty1-ppal_i386.deb
[22:52] <Daskreech> Brian_: sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/kontact*
[22:53] <Brian_> ok
[22:54] <Daskreech> sudo apt-get remove kontact
[22:55] <Brian_> ok
[22:56] <Daskreech> Brian_: That went well?
[22:56] <Daskreech> then try sudo apt-get autoremove
[22:56] <Brian_>                 Depends: libkdepim4  4:4.3.0-0ubuntu1~jaunty1~ppa1) but 4:4.2.2-0ubuntu1 is to be installed E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[22:56] <Brian_> ok
[22:57] <Brian_> same thing    e:umet dep try using -f
[22:59] <Brian_> depends kdepin groupware, libkdepim4, kdepim4,kdepimlib5, and libkdepim4
[23:00] <Daskreech_> When you try -f install it still doesn't work?
[23:01] <Brian_> sudo apt-get -f install?
[23:02] <Brian_> oh
[23:02] <Brian_> wait
[23:02] <Daskreech_> Yeah -f means fix by the way :)
[23:03] <Brian_> error were encountered while processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kontact
[23:03] <Brian_> sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned and error code 1
[23:05] <hatchmt> So for some reason, I can no longer use alt-f4 to close a window.  If I have konsole open and hit alt-f4, it types an S.  Ctrl-F4 does the same thing.  F1-F3 do P, Q, and R.  Anything above F4 (ctrl or alt) gives gibberish like ;3~
[23:05] <hatchmt> I'm on 9.04
[23:05] <hatchmt> pretty much a fresh install
[23:06] <Brian_> Daskreech: could it be the ubuntu-ppa1.deb
[23:07] <hatchmt> I've seen other instances of this on Google, but no solutions.  Has anyone run into this before?
[23:08] <bbeck> hatchmt: Have you checked System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse -> Global Keyboard Shortcuts?
[23:09] <bbeck> hatchmt: KDE Component should be KWin, then search for close
[23:09] <hatchmt> bbeck: I had not checked there, but something's wrong with it -- "Failed to contact the KDE global shortcuts daemon.  Message: Could not get owner of name 'org.kde.kded': no such name.  Error: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NameHasNoOwner"
[23:09] <hatchmt> That explains the one problem, but now I have another.  :)
[23:10] <bbeck> hatchmt: When you say pretty much a fresh install, what do you mean?
[23:10] <hatchmt> Like I installed it about four hours ago and did an update.
[23:11] <hatchmt> This is a reinstall from the same media (worked fine the first go-round).  Not sure what I did to goof it up, but I'll try again, I suppose.
[23:12] <bbeck> hatchmt: sorry I couldn't be more help
[23:13] <hatchmt> ah, but you did -- you pointed me to this other issue, which I think leads me toward a possible dbus issue.  So, no worries.
[23:13] <Brian_> Daskreech: you still here
[23:16] <Daskreech_> Brian_: Yes
[23:16] <Daskreech_> Brian_: What deb?
[23:17] <Brian_> im just going to uninstall kubuntu
[23:17] <Brian_> i have gnome installed so ill just reinstall kubuntu later
[23:17] <Daskreech> Brian_: ok that might work
[23:17] <Daskreech> Might not as well
[23:18] <Daskreech> lets see what dpkg says
[23:18] <dajomu> can anyone tell me why the latest opened window place itself on the left side for tasbar?
[23:18] <Daskreech> dajomu: I'm not sure either I thought that it was grouped by desktop
[23:18] <dajomu> I am using kde4.3
[23:18] <dajomu> How do I turn that feature/bug  off?
[23:19] <Brian_> ok good gnome at least isnt messed up
[23:19] <Brian_> its nice to see somthing workin
[23:21] <Daskreech> Brian_: ok try remove KDE
[23:21] <Daskreech> sudo apt-get remove kdelibs5
[23:22] <Brian_> Daskreech:  in gnome synaptic says i have 2 broken packages,,  kdepim-wiard and libkabcommon4
[23:22] <Daskreech> libkabcommon4 Hmm  can you remove it?
[23:22] <Brian_> yes
[23:23] <Brian_> should i remove both broken packages
[23:23] <Daskreech> Yes
[23:23] <Daskreech> That's what is causing the problem
[23:23] <Brian_> ok they are gone
[23:24] <Daskreech> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[23:24] <Brian_> so do you think if i were to log back into kde it would work
[23:24] <Daskreech> No You need to upgrade first :)
[23:26] <Brian_> i already have kubuntu-desktop installed    should i remove it first
[23:26] <Daskreech> no run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[23:26] <hatchmt> bbeck: figured it out...  It worked fine when logged in as root, so I just deleted all the KDE stuff from my home directory and let it recreate it all from scratch.  Works now.  No idea what goofed in the first place, but thanks for taking a stab at it!
[23:26] <Daskreech> hatchmt: don't do that next time
[23:26] <Daskreech> hi oem
[23:27] <oem> hi
[23:27] <oem> i install fluxbox
[23:27] <oem> Sysinfo for 'ubuntu': Linux 2.6.27-7-generic running , CPU: PentiumIII(Coppermine) at 801 MHz (1603 bogomips), HD: 2/4GB, RAM: 96/106MB, 77 proc's, 7.26min up
[23:27] <Daskreech> hatchmt: There is a a lot of useful data in there like your mail for instance
[23:27] <Daskreech> hatchmt: rename the directory will accomplish the same thing without the risk of you losing all yourdata logs settings
[23:27] <Brian_> i still get the error was encountered while processing var/cache/apt/archives/kontact
[23:27] <hatchmt> i know.  This was a newish install and I didn't care.
[23:28] <Daskreech> hatchmt: ok
[23:28] <Daskreech> Brian_: try run sudo apt-get clean then the dist-upgrade again
[23:29] <Brian_> ok it seems to be doing it thing
[23:29] <Brian_> yep its installin
[23:29] <Brian_> what did apt-get clean do
[23:30] <Daskreech> it got rid of the old packages that might be confusing it
[23:30] <Brian_> Daskreech: ok cool so.. now after this what shall i do
[23:31] <Daskreech> Brian_: log out and login to KDE if you like
[23:31] <Brian_> was it the broken packages messing it all up
[23:32] <oem> but i cant not open the terminal on fluxbox, howto
[23:32] <Brian_> if this works and even if it doesnt i gotta say thanks for stickin threw this with me , i know you got other stuff you could be doin than helping a noob
[23:33] <Daskreech> Brian_: Yes. That's why you had no plasma-desktop and no actual desktop etc
[23:33] <Daskreech> They weren't installed because they couldn't get upgraded cause that package was blocking the update
[23:33] <Brian_> ok hold on  i got the var/cache/apt/archives/kontact  error again
[23:34] <Daskreech> oem: join #fluxbuntu
[23:34] <Daskreech> ha ha :) Ok
[23:34] <Brian_> no i did
[23:35] <Brian_> it was installin and then out of nowhere it gave me the error
[23:35] <Daskreech> Brian_: ok that's fine. might need to drop to a lower level try sudo dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/kontact*deb
[23:38] <Serraphyn> Can anyone help me with 9.04 and setting up wifi? I can't figure out how to do WPA passphrase send to router
[23:38] <Brian_> that didnt do much
[23:39] <Brian_> im confused
[23:39] <Daskreech> I forget what happens when you sudo apt-get remove kontact ?
[23:41] <Brian_> ok it  removing kontact, processing triggers for lib6
[23:41] <Brian_> ldconfig deferred processing now taking place
[23:43] <Brian_> Daskreech: should i try the sudo apt dist update
[23:46] <Daskreech> Brian_: Yes! :-)
[23:46] <Brian_> now that kontact thing is gone i hope it works
[23:47] <Brian_> ok going again
[23:48] <Brian_> where it stops no one knows
[23:49] <Brian_> Daskreech:  ok its done  no error this time
[23:49] <Daskreech> type which plasma-desktop
[23:50] <Brian_> ok no error
[23:50] <Daskreech> huh?
[23:50] <Daskreech> it should give you a path
[23:50] <Brian_> it didnt do anything
[23:51] <Daskreech> type which plasma
[23:51] <Brian_> im in gnome
[23:51] <Daskreech> shouldn't matter
[23:51] <Daskreech> It's just reporting where the file is
[23:52] <Brian_> it doesnt do anything
[23:52] <Daskreech> type which gedit
[23:53] <Brian_> usr/bin/gedit
[23:54] <Daskreech> which kate
[23:54] <Brian_> usr/bin/kate
[23:54] <Daskreech> ok
[23:54] <Daskreech> Hmm sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop
[23:54] <Daskreech> then reinstall it
[23:55] <Brian_> ok
[23:55] <Brian_> its not installed
[23:56] <Daskreech> install that
[23:56] <Brian_> im doing apt get install kubuntu desktop
[23:56] <Daskreech> with a dash? :)
[23:57] <Brian_> e:package kubuntu-desktop has no installation canidate
[23:57] <Brian_> ill try threw synaptic
[23:58] <Daskreech> o_o
[23:58] <Daskreech> ok
[23:59] <Brian_> i get w:gpg error  the following signature could not be verified because the public key is not available