[00:53] <poolie> the bzr bugs page on staging is timing out with https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=OOPS-1314S226
[00:53] <poolie> repeatedly
[00:55] <thumper> poolie: oh no
[00:56] <thumper> poolie: I don't think that oops has been synced yet
[00:56] <thumper> poolie: I'll take a look
[00:56] <poolie> ok
[00:57] <poolie> i'm not blocked on it (anymore) i was just going to try somethnig
[00:57] <poolie> however, if it might be worth investigating.
[01:03] <thumper> mwhudson: do you know how we check the SSH keys from the smart server?
[01:03] <mwhudson> thumper: xmlrpc
[01:03] <thumper> https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/79261
[01:03] <thumper> mwhudson: does the xmlrpc check the keyserver?
[01:04] <thumper> mwhudson: or does it just use what is in the DB?
[01:04] <mwhudson> thumper: keyserver?
[01:04] <mwhudson> thumper: are you confusing gpg and ssh keys?
[01:04] <thumper> yes
[01:04] <thumper> damn
[01:05] <thumper> mwhudson: any ideas about the above question?
[01:06] <thumper> wgrant: you don't use windows at all do you?
[01:07] <mwhudson> thumper: not really, his account on launchpad looks ok so i guess that his key isn't being presented over ssh for whatever reason
[01:08] <thumper> mwhudson: that is what I figured too
[01:09]  * thumper runs to lunch
[01:21] <wgrant> thumper: I used it last night for the first time in months to test my app in IE8, so not really.
[02:08] <thumper> poolie: that timeout seems to be a table locking problem
[03:02] <Magnun> Hi, I have a doubt about importing translations from a brunch, can anyone help me?
[03:04] <Ursinha> danilos, are you hiding?
[03:10] <Magnun> anyone?
[03:11] <thumper> Magnun: the translation guys tend to work European time
[03:11] <thumper> Magnun: and danilos is one, jtv is another
[03:12] <Magnun> oh, thanks anyway!
[03:12] <Magnun> and I'm sorry! I didn't know
[03:13] <thumper> Magnun: np
[03:13] <thumper> Magnun: what are your doubts?
[03:13] <thumper> Magnun: not that I could help much
[03:13] <thumper> Magnun: but I can listen
[03:14] <Magnun> thumper: It's a simple question
[03:15] <thumper> shoot
[03:15] <Magnun> thumper: I've uploaded some .po files a cupple of days ago and it still marked as "Needs Review"
[03:16] <thumper> Magnun: ah, I think someone needs to review the import files, and I feel it is probably danilos, jtv or henning that does that
[03:16] <Magnun> thumper: But I don't know If I'm supposed to review it or someone at lauchpad will review it
[03:16] <thumper> Magnun: some LP person is supposed to review it
[03:17] <Magnun> thumper: hum... I've searched everywhere thinking that I was missing something XD
[03:17] <thumper> sorry for the confusion
[03:17] <Magnun> thumper: No problem
[03:18] <Magnun> I'll wait a cupple of days more
[03:19] <Magnun> Thanks for the explanation!
[03:21] <thumper> ok
[03:53] <bd_> is it me or is launchpad very slow tonight? :/
[03:54] <mwhudson> other people have been complaining
[04:12] <days_of_ruin> After trying several times I still can't delete a series ;_;
[04:13] <thumper> days_of_ruin: for which project?
[04:13] <days_of_ruin> thumper, https://launchpad.net/rssn
[04:14] <thumper> days_of_ruin: and what is your launchpad id?
[04:14] <days_of_ruin> freshapplepy
[04:14] <thumper> ok
[04:14] <thumper> as maintainer you should be able to
[04:14] <thumper> lets take a look
[04:14] <thumper> days_of_ruin: which series are you trying to delete?
[04:16] <days_of_ruin> 0.6
[04:18] <thumper> days_of_ruin: if you go to https://launchpad.net/rssn/0.6 do you see a small bin next to the text "Rss Notify 0.6 series"?
[04:18] <days_of_ruin> yes and when I click it I get the confirmation page...
[04:19] <days_of_ruin> and then this:
[04:19] <days_of_ruin> Please try again
[04:19] <days_of_ruin> Sorry, there was a problem connecting to the Launchpad server.
[04:19] <days_of_ruin> Try reloading this page in a minute or two. If the problem persists, let us know in the #launchpad IRC channel on Freenode.
[04:19] <days_of_ruin> Thanks for your patience.
[04:19] <thumper> heh
[04:19] <mwhudson> ugh
[04:19] <thumper> days_of_ruin: ok, can I get you to try again?
[04:20] <days_of_ruin> I have tried several times yesterday and today.
[04:20] <thumper> days_of_ruin: we are having some load balancing issues at this very moment
[04:20] <thumper> days_of_ruin: oh, you always get that?
[04:20] <days_of_ruin> yes
[04:20] <thumper> hmm
[04:20] <thumper> that seems like a bug to me
[04:20] <thumper> spm: can I get you to try to delete a series for days_of_ruin?  https://launchpad.net/rssn/0.6
[04:21] <spm> thumper: err no. not lack of desire etc no; but it fails for me too. same reason as above. whee.
[04:22] <thumper> I'll file a bug
[04:22] <days_of_ruin> also I have set up automatic translation import/export for the trunk series and that doesn't work, when I set it up for 0.6 yesterday it worked though.
[04:23] <thumper> :(
[04:23] <days_of_ruin> by doesn't work I mean it hasn't imported anything or put anything in the import queue
[04:23] <thumper> I don't know much about that I'm afraid
[04:23] <thumper> jtv does know more, and should be coming online soonish
[04:24] <spm> thumper: I just went to my home page. and it came back with 2 deleted series 0.6's - so it may be gone now?
[04:24] <thumper> ??
[04:25] <thumper> spm: nope, still there
[04:25] <spm> but no.
[04:25] <spm> yes
[04:26] <mwhudson> are you getting an oops when it times out?
[04:26] <spm> no
[04:26] <thumper> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/410139
[04:26] <mwhudson> :(
[04:26] <thumper> is it a timeout though?
[04:27] <thumper> or does it come back quickly?
[04:27] <thumper> is something locking the tables?
[04:28] <spm> it seems faster than the timout would be; but...
[04:28] <spm> it's not immediate tho
[05:17] <Hilikus_> hey guys
[05:18] <Hilikus_> i just packaged my first program and i have a couple of questions
[05:18] <Hilikus_> how do i know exactly what packages are needed to compile something. if i just compile it maybe it works because i had the packages so i can't tell what was needed or used
[05:19] <Hilikus_> this is not my program btw, so i don't know the dependencies very well, i just followed what the author mentioned
[05:24] <thumper> wgrant: can you help?
[05:27] <Hilikus_> and my second question is, how long does it take for sources to be built
[05:33] <thumper> it depends
[05:33] <thumper> it depends on the current load on the builders
[05:33] <thumper> and who has that laod
[05:34] <thumper> laod
[05:34] <thumper> load
[05:34] <thumper> sausage fingers
[05:35] <Hilikus_> whats the worst case?
[05:35] <Hilikus_> 1 week? 1 month?
[05:35] <thumper> not sure, but shouldn't be 1 week even
[05:35] <thumper> wgrant has some knowleged in this area, much more than me
[05:35] <Hilikus_> i thought it would be minutes, but nothing yet
[05:35] <Hilikus_> after like an hour
[05:39] <thumper> unfortunately I don't even know where to look
[06:01]  * wgrant wanders in.
[06:02] <wgrant> Hilikus_: Normally sources start building within 5 minutes, but occasionally you might have to wait a day.
[06:02] <wgrant> Hilikus_: Did you get an email of either acceptance or rejection of the package from Launchpad?
[06:03] <wgrant> That should arrive within 5 minutes of the upload.
[06:03] <Hilikus_> no
[06:03] <Hilikus_> nothing
[06:03] <wgrant> If it hasn't, you didn't sign the package properly with a key that is associated with your Launchpad account.
[06:03] <Hilikus_> i did
[06:03] <Hilikus_> oh wait
[06:03] <Hilikus_> i did but i've never connected it to my launchpad account
[06:03] <wgrant> I'm fairly sure that you didn't.
[06:03] <wgrant> Right.
[06:03] <wgrant> You need to do that.
[06:03] <wgrant> And that should be more obvious.
[06:03] <Hilikus_> :@
[06:04] <Hilikus_> that's not mentioned anywhere
[06:04] <wgrant> It will be pretty obvious after the next UI change, I hear.
[06:04] <Hilikus_> i'll do that
[06:14]  * thumper EODs
[06:14] <wgrant> Night thumper.
[06:14] <thumper> night
[06:48] <Hilikus_> wgrant: ok, i linked my key. but now if i try to redput my code it says its already uploaded. will it just catch my key now and build it?
[06:49] <Hilikus_> or i need to reupload?
[06:49] <wgrant> Hilikus_: That's just a local check. Try dput -f
[06:49] <Hilikus_> oh ok
[06:49] <Hilikus_> i didnt know that
[07:07] <Hilikus_> glogscrobbler_0.2.1-1.dsc: Unknown section 'unknown'
[07:07] <Hilikus_> any help on what causes that?
[07:08] <wgrant> Hilikus_: You specified the 'unknown' section in debian/control.
[07:08]  * wgrant finds the list of valid sections.
[07:09] <wgrant> http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-archive.html#s-subsections
[08:07] <Hilikus_> is it possible to change my PPA address?
[08:09] <noodles775> Hilikus_: No. Actually once you create a ppa you can't even change your username for the same reason (it would change your ppa address).
[08:09] <noodles775> It's generally not a good idea. But you can always create another PPA? Would that help you?
[08:12] <Hilikus_> well i thought i couldn't chang emy user name to begin with
[08:12] <Hilikus_> i though i could only change my display name
[08:13] <Hilikus_> noodles775: what if i remove my ppa an then rename the account?
[08:13] <noodles775> So regarding the name change:
[08:13] <noodles775> https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/soyuz/+faq/569
[08:14] <noodles775> Hilikus_: As I understand it, even if you delete everything in your PPA, you still have a PPA and so cannot rename your account. But,
[08:15] <noodles775> If it's important for you, you *can* create a new account and request the old account to be deleted.
[08:22] <noodles775> Hilikus_: you can also have the old account merged into the new one too (ie. so you keep your karma etc. :) ).
[09:49] <maxb> Sometimes it occurs to me that it might be nice to create a 'topic' PPA for a particular project. But I don't, because it would stay in existence permanently. Is there any decent way to deal with this other than filing questions every time you want a PPA to go away, or creating the PPAs with abstract codenames so you can recycle them after a while?
[09:50] <bigjools> I plan on addressing PPA removal later this year, but for now you need to file questions :(
[09:50] <bigjools> it's not a trivial task
[09:51] <noodles775> bigjools: ah, but it is possible to remove a PPA? I just told Hilikus_ a little while ago that it wasn't. He wanted to change the name of his PPA...
[09:51] <bigjools> noodles775: it is not possible right now
[09:52] <noodles775> OK - good, because that's what I told him/her :)
[09:53] <maxb> The status now is what? LOSAs poke things and it vanishes from the UI and ppa.launchpad.net ?
[09:56] <bigjools> pretty much; it's disabled and then the repo area is removed
[11:01] <wgrant> How would I go about migrating a project's bugs from Google Code to Launchpad?
[11:17] <jml> wgrant, good question.
[11:19] <wgrant> It'd be easy enough to write something to scrape it into LP's XML format, but I wonder if there's some code around already.
[11:20] <jml> wgrant, I wouldn't know. Normally I'd say "ask gmb", but he doesn't seem to be around
[11:20] <jml> wgrant, certainly it'd be very nice for Launchpad to have external bug tracker support for google code
[11:20] <wgrant> I was planning to ask gmb, but he hasn't turned up.
[11:20] <wgrant> It can't readily support Google Code, as statuses are customisable.
[11:24] <jml> fair point
[14:59] <allenap> Do LP mailing lists not send to a subscriber if he/she is already mentioned in a To/Cc line?
[15:04] <mrevell> allenap: I think that's more a Gmail thing
[15:04] <mrevell> allenap: Sorry, no, that's something different, ignore me.
[15:04] <allenap> mrevell: Okay, I was about to say that :)
[17:59] <Hilikus_> hey guys
[18:00] <Hilikus_> i want to login to my pbuilder cause i'm having a problem with a package that i already have. but to try co compile the program i need to move the source code. how do i copy it to the chroot from my real fs?
[18:33] <dreamcat4> Hello. Having issues building on launchpad - various errors
[18:33] <dreamcat4> but on my local machine builds are fine
[18:33] <dreamcat4> I'd like to replicate these errors localy
[18:34] <dreamcat4> What\s the pbuilder command to use ?
[18:35] <LarstiQ> dreamcat4: pdebuild?
[18:36] <LarstiQ> dreamcat4: aren't thee errors clear by themselves though?
[18:36] <dreamcat4> thank you.
[18:37] <dreamcat4> Its a really nasty autoconf problem, so I was thinking to have a peek at the source tree after it fails
[18:39] <LarstiQ> ah, right
[20:07] <Hilikus_> hey guys i keep getting my package rejected
[20:07] <Hilikus_> File glogscrobbler_0.2.1-1.diff.gz already exists in Hilikus PPA, but uploaded version has different contents
[20:07] <Hilikus_> but i did what the link suggests
[20:08] <Hilikus_> started fresh, redownloaded the source file, reuntar it, and moved debian to the newly untared dir and repackaged
[20:08] <Hilikus_> but still nothing
[20:13] <LarstiQ> ehm
[20:16] <Hilikus_> anyone?
[20:17] <Hilikus> i had problems with dependencies in package that i uploaded and now i fixed it
[20:19] <hggdh> and did you increase the version?
[20:21] <hggdh> meaning 0.2.1-1 already is there, your fixes should upload 0.2.1-2 (for example)
[20:21] <tsimpson> something like 0.2.1-2~ppa1 should work, then you can just bump the ~ppaN part
[20:22] <Hilikus> i see
[20:22] <Hilikus> thanks guys
[20:27] <Hilikus> tsimpson: where would i specify that naming convention? is in in the debian files directly?
[20:27] <tsimpson> Hilikus: just in the debian/changelog
[20:28] <tsimpson> eg: glogscrobbler (0.2.1-2~ppa1) karmic; urgency=low
[20:28] <Hilikus> tsimpson:  ok i'll do that. but out of curiosity. i deleted the first package from the PPA but i still got the same collision. do the files not get deleted in realityL
[20:29] <tsimpson> the files on the disk take time to delete (about a day), but there are some reasons why they won't be deleted
[20:29] <tsimpson> like if another package depends on it
[20:30] <Hilikus> but it is already saying there's nothing in the PPA whic made me think it did get deleted
[20:30] <Hilikus> the old package didn't even build, which is the reason i thought it would get deleted immediatly without any deeper checks
[20:30] <tsimpson> look at the archive, at http://ppa.launchpad.net/<your ID>/<your ppa>
[20:31] <tsimpson> the actual files may still be there
[20:32] <Hilikus> aaah right
[20:32] <Hilikus> i see them there
[20:32] <Hilikus> thanks a lot
[21:02] <SamB> Hilikus: see, you're not supposed to use the same version number for two different versions of a package *or* the .orig tarball...
[21:02] <SamB> ever!
[21:04] <Hilikus> yea i discovered that. but when you're learning its obvious you're gonig to make mistakes that don't even make sense so its kindof silly to have to increase version for that
[21:05] <Hilikus> SamB:
[21:05] <SamB> well, you often have to do silly things
[21:06] <SamB> and better silly than unprofessional
[21:06] <SamB> ;-P
[21:06] <LarstiQ> Hilikus: I do recommend a testrun locally before uploading
[21:06] <Hilikus> LarstiQ: lol i learned that the hard way too
[21:06] <Hilikus> learnt*
[21:07] <LarstiQ> the hard way is often a good teacher ;)
[21:13] <fta> for the "Publishing details" in ppa pages, wouldn't it be better to have to build status *before* the Changelog, for ex in here: https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa to see the status of the i386 build of xul 1.9.2/karmic, i need to scroll too much (esp with the mouse wheel)
[21:16] <SamB> I keep getting OOPS-1315C2565 trying to access https://code.launchpad.net/~jelmer
[21:16] <SamB> damnit, why do those always require authentication?
[21:17] <SamB> well, I mean, I keep getting oopses
[21:17] <SamB> I guess I get handed a new one each time ...
[21:17] <SamB> also says "Timeout Error"
[22:35] <jkakar> Can anyone here make me an admin of ~storm, and the storm project, so that I can create a PPA and complete the 0.15 release?
[22:49] <Ursinha> herb, ^
[22:49] <herb> jkakar: that can be arranged.
[22:52] <herb> jkakar: done
[22:59] <jkakar> herb: You rock, thanks.
[22:59] <herb> jkakar: you are very welcome
[23:04] <dreamcat4> when building on the launchpad ppa i keep getting configure errors, like bad file descriptor, file not found, etc.
[23:04] <dreamcat4> the package builds fine in pbuilder on my local box
[23:05] <dreamcat4> it's weird