[00:06] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #300205 in krb5 (main) "LTSP + LDAP + Kerberos" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/300205
[00:38] <qman__> if you serve a website, dyndns adds popups
[00:38] <qman__> or at least did, last I used them
[00:38] <qman__> which is why I switched to afraid.org
[01:08] <roxy> Hi there, I am printing from clients using Samba and cups server but I just can print the first page and I dont got any error, somebody know what could happen?
[01:11] <giovani> roxy: what does printing have to do with ubuntu server?
[01:12] <roxy> cups configuration in ubuntu server
[01:13] <giovani> uh, ok -- then I don't know why the content of the print was relevant
[01:13] <giovani> how did you send the print job?
[01:14] <roxy> i installed the samba print in the clients and then when i try to print from the clients or even from my print server just print the first page
[01:18] <LiraNuna> how to configure postfix for mandatory smtp auth from mysql server (postfixadmin)
[01:19] <KillMeNow> well, do you want to use system user accounts or you running a SQL backend?
[01:19] <KillMeNow> i personally run the SQL backend
[01:19] <KillMeNow> therefore no user accounts are on the local system
[01:19] <LiraNuna> KillMeNow, I got postfixadmin, postfix, dovecot and roundcube working all great, but smtp is anonymous
[01:20] <KillMeNow> ok, i have no idea what postfixadmin is
[01:20] <LiraNuna> http://postfixadmin.sourceforge.net/
[01:21] <KillMeNow> ahh
[01:21] <LiraNuna> I use it for now until I write my own web management system
[01:21] <KillMeNow> i do my admin work via command line
[01:21] <KillMeNow> but anyways, lemme dig up the how to  for smtp auth
[01:21] <LiraNuna> oh thank you
[01:21] <LiraNuna> I was googling for 2 days now
[01:21] <LiraNuna> everything I tried fails
[01:22] <KillMeNow> add these lines to your /etc/postfix/main.cf
[01:22] <KillMeNow> smtpd_sasl_auth_enable = yes broken_sasl_auth_clients = yes
[01:22] <KillMeNow> er
[01:22] <KillMeNow> put a break after each of those lines
[01:23] <LiraNuna> k, that's it?
[01:23] <KillMeNow> pretty sure, checking a couple things
[01:24] <LiraNuna> afaik that won't forge auth
[01:24] <LiraNuna> force*
[01:24] <LiraNuna> broken_sasl_auth_clients = yes // this is just compatibiity for MS exchange
[01:24] <KillMeNow> yes, i have MS Exchange
[01:25] <KillMeNow> ahha
[01:25] <KillMeNow> here, check this link out
[01:25] <KillMeNow> remember, my config is all about the sql goodness
[01:25] <KillMeNow> https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/serverguide/C/postfix.html
[01:25] <LiraNuna> will that be good for 8.04 as well?
[01:25] <LiraNuna> oh it uses dovecot for auth
[01:26] <KillMeNow> smtpd_recipient_restrictions = permit_sasl_authenticated
[01:26] <KillMeNow> course there are more lines to that for like permit_mynetworks
[01:26] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #410109 in postfix (main) "package postfix-pcre None [modified: /var/lib/dpkg/info/postfix-pcre.list] failed to install/upgrade: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/410109
[01:26] <KillMeNow> smtpd_recipient_restrictions =         permit_mynetworks,         permit_sasl_authenticated,         reject_unauth_destination,         reject_unauth_pipelining,         reject_non_fqdn_recipient,         reject_unknown_recipient_domain,         reject_rbl_client sbl.spamhaus.org
[01:27] <KillMeNow> kinda ugly on the paste job
[01:27] <KillMeNow> last line is permit
[01:27] <LiraNuna> Aug  6 17:26:57 train postfix/smtpd[25505]: warning: SASL: Connect to private/auth-client failed: No such file or directory
[01:27] <KillMeNow> but yea, the link i sent you should work with postfix on 8.04
[01:27] <KillMeNow> yea, it's using SASL
[01:27] <KillMeNow> you'll need to create a TLS Cert file and Key file
[01:29] <KillMeNow> Postfix supports SMTP-AUTH as defined in RFC2554. It is based on SASL. However it is still necessary to set up SASL authentication before you can use SMTP-AUTH.
[01:29] <KillMeNow> anyways, i hope that helps
[01:50] <roxy> i got the error i needed to put in samba file : cups options = raw
[03:13] <sherl0ck> hi, is it possible to install hardy LTS 64bit from usb? I keep gettin failed to mount cdrom after i boot it!
[03:14] <sherl0ck> *hardy LTS 64bit server
[03:14] <twb> sherl0ck: it's even possible to install Ubuntu Server from the disk you're installing to.
[03:14] <twb> The most obvious question is: what install image did you put on the USB mass storage device?
[03:15] <twb> You need a different ramdisk for USB (effectively, hard disk) installs than the one on the CDROM install media.
[03:16] <sherl0ck> i used the iso from ubuntu.org
[03:16] <sherl0ck> and usb-creator
[03:16] <sherl0ck> what should i use? link?
[03:17] <sherl0ck> i used this http://ubuntu-releases.wallawalla.edu/8.04/ubuntu-8.04.3-server-amd64.iso
[03:20] <sherl0ck> twb, any idea where to point me for help/guide?
[03:20] <sherl0ck> i've tired some, but they also end with 'failed to mount cdrom in the installer'
[03:21] <twb> One moment.
[03:22] <twb> ftp://mirror.internode.on.net/pub/ubuntu/ubuntu/dists/hardy/main/installer-amd64/current/images/
[03:22] <twb> I think you want to just dd the hd-media/boot.img.gz onto /dev/sdz, where sdz is your USB key.
[03:23] <twb> Optionally, you can then put the .iso simply as a file on the key -- by default, it'll simply download all packages off the network.
[03:23] <sherl0ck> great
[03:23] <sherl0ck> i try
[03:24] <sherl0ck> thanks!
[03:24] <twb> I don't know about the Ubuntu install guide, but the Debian install guide should describe HD-based installs in great detail.
[03:24] <twb> (Ubuntu Server uses debian-installer (d-i) instead of ubiquity.)
[03:25] <twb> Also note that mirror.internode.on.net is just my local mirror -- the same stuff should exist on archive.ubuntu.com
[03:26] <twb> Oh, and apparently the Hardy boot.img.gz is (brokenly) 800MB in size, so you will need a USB key at least that large.  IIRC that's fixed in more recent releases.
[04:11] <sherl0ck> ok question, what makes ubuntu server different from a base install - is it just the kernel? or what other packages are installed?
[04:18] <Deevz> most obvious dif is that there is no gui
[04:19] <Deevz> you get to choose which packages to install to not bloat your installation
[04:19] <twb> He's gone
[04:23] <Deevz> oh
[04:23] <Deevz> ive got a problem here, I just installed a client is supposed to update my ip for my dyndns account, but it gives them my internal ip
[04:23] <Deevz> any idea why?
[04:24] <albdum> maybe there is a chance someone here have setup a hotspot to give me some help ?
[04:24] <albdum> just asking :)
[05:10] <twb> Deevz: it's using the wrong interface to get the IP address
[05:10] <twb> albdum: what is a "hotspot"?
[05:11] <Deevz> twb: its using the same interface im using to connect to the internet
[05:11] <Deevz> but its returning my internal ip
[05:12] <twb> Deevz: is your Ubuntu server running behind a NAT?
[05:12] <Deevz> a router
[05:13] <Deevz> not sure what a NAT is
[05:14] <twb> OK, here is what I think is happening.
[05:15] <twb> You have ONE internet-visible address for your entire network.
[05:15] <twb> This address is address of the internet-facing interface on your router.
[05:16] <twb> Your router provide a private IP range to your LAN, and uses NAT (masquerading) to make your entire network appear to be just that one internet-visible address.
[05:16] <twb> Your Ubuntu server is just some box plugged in behind the router, using a private IP assigned by the router.
[05:16] <twb> Deevz: does that sound right?
[05:17] <Deevz> yes, thats what I understand from the way my network works, but using proper terms
[05:17] <twb> Deevz: OK, then the problem is that your Ubuntu server cannot easily determine what IP address the router is using.
[05:17] <Deevz> ok
[05:17] <twb> Deevz: you should either make Ubuntu your router, or put the dyndns script on your existing router.
[05:18] <Deevz> make ubuntu my router?
[05:18] <twb> It is probably also possible to reprogram the dyndns script to work out what IP your router is using, but I don't know how to do that.
[05:18] <Deevz> well
[05:18] <twb> Deevz: right.  Routers are just servers configured to route.
[05:18] <Deevz> it says I can config it to get my ip from a command
[05:19] <Deevz> so a command that outputs my external ip would do it
[05:19] <twb> Deevz: OK, so now you just need to work out what command to use.
[05:19] <twb> I don't know how to do that, unfortunately.
[05:21] <Deevz> ok
[05:21] <Deevz> thx
[05:24] <ipsemet> ﻿hello all i'm running vmware server 2.0 on Ubuntu Server 8.04.3 recently when trying to execute vmware-vim-cmd vmsvc/getallvms this error is returned: Failed to login: FileIO error: Permission denied for file  : /var/run/vmware-hostd-ticket/52910983-7a16-f1a1-be86-cdd79c0a917d Failed to login: vim.fault.InvalidLogin i've executed this command with this same user before and it has worked
[05:25] <twb> ipsemet: I don't think vmware is supported.
[05:25] <ipsemet> this began occuring around the time of the upgrade to the 2.6.24-24-server kernel
[05:25] <ipsemet> well its not in the canonical supported apps
[05:25] <twb> ipsemet: you can also try #vmware.
[05:25] <ipsemet> ok
[05:28] <twb> ipsemet: incidentally, KVM is the recommended virtualization solution for Ubuntu
[05:28] <ipsemet> i know
[05:28] <ipsemet> KVM is also slower than vmware on this hardware
[05:34] <DerKlempner> evening, all.  i have an old P3 700Mhz computer with 512MB of RAM, and i was wondering if this rig will be enough to run Ubuntu Server edition for SSH, Apache, an FTP daemon, and a 40GB-sized Samba share?
[05:35] <twb> DerKlempner: depends on the load.
[05:35] <ipsemet> yes
[05:35] <ipsemet> and i agree with twb
[05:35] <ipsemet> a yes with a depends
[05:35] <twb> DerKlempner: I'd probably try it, and if it had trouble double/triple it's RAM
[05:35] <DerKlempner> small load, just my home network consisting of three networked computers
[05:35] <ipsemet> def
[05:35] <ipsemet> i've done a small business (3 users) with less
[05:35] <ipsemet> without the FTP though
[05:35] <twb> Yes, Pentium IIIs are excellent in such a role, because they have relatively low power requirements and heat emissions
[05:35] <DerKlempner> the web server will act just as a storage site for people to connect and download small files (less than 10MB each)
[05:36] <twb> I'd be more inclined to use SFTP than a apache for "I just wanna drop some files here"
[05:36] <twb> Same for SFTP over FTP :-)
[05:36] <DerKlempner> only caveat is that i won't be able to increase the RAM if necessary...
[05:37] <ipsemet> i doubt you will have a problem
[05:37] <ipsemet> esp with just a home network
[05:37] <DerKlempner> and i thought about dropping Apache, but i don't want to make logins for the random user who asks me for a file, when i can just say, "sure, here's my web site, download it from <here>..."
[05:37] <ipsemet> try nanoweb server
[05:37] <ipsemet> very nice and very small
[05:37] <twb> DerKlempner: right, so I would make the http part read-only, and use sftp for uploads
[05:38] <twb> I do that from my OpenWRT box.
[05:38] <DerKlempner> only *i* will be doing the uploading
[05:38] <twb> twb.ath.cx runs on 32MB of RAM and a 16MB root filesystem :-)
[05:39] <DerKlempner> heh, i hope that's not supposed to be a web site
[05:39] <twb> And a 260MHz MIPS processor
[05:39] <twb> DerKlempner: sure it's a web "site".  It just doesn't provide directory listings, so you gotta be told (by me) what's there
[05:40] <DerKlempner> ah, i see...  does a minimal install of US include SSH reloaded?
[05:40] <twb> You mean preloaded?
[05:40] <DerKlempner> er, preloaded?
[05:40] <DerKlempner> lol yeah
[05:40] <twb> I don't think so, but installing stuff is trivial.
[05:40] <twb> SSH specifically is a checkbox during install
[05:40] <ball> I like Ubuntu Server
[05:41] <DerKlempner> ok, good...  it's a headless box, so the only time i want to hook up the necessary peripherals is when i do the install
[05:41] <twb> (Note that twb.ath.cx doesn't run Ubuntu; it's embedded and Ubuntu wouldn't fit.)
[05:43] <DerKlempner> well, i guess i'm going to grab an ISo and get cracking as soon as i finish ioff the file transfers from the NTFS partitions currently on the drives
[05:43] <DerKlempner> thanks for the info!
[05:44] <twb> DerKlempner: you realize that Ubuntu can read from and write to NTFS partitions?
[05:45] <DerKlempner> yes, but i grow weary of slow data transfer rates and the annoying limitations on the shares when i mount them on this computer
[05:46] <twb> Fair enough
[05:46] <DerKlempner> i spent my morning learning how to set up NFS shares and enabling them on my other two computers, and i'm wanting to get rid of the WinXP install currently on this P3 file server and go completely with NFS
[05:46] <twb> All network filesystems suck.
[05:47] <twb> NFS (prior to NFSv4) particularly sucks at access control.
[05:47] <DerKlempner> i use the P3 as just a storage medium and to serve the web site.  i'm adding the FTP daemon because, without a GUI, i won't have VNC to fall back onto any more
[05:48] <twb> DerKlempner: I don't see how an FTP daemon will replace a GUI
[05:48] <DerKlempner> file transfer via VNC is decent, but i know FTP fairly well, especially ProFTPd
[05:48] <twb> File transfer *via VNC*?  That doesn't make any sense.
[05:48] <DerKlempner> because i don't use an FTP server on it now, and if i have to transfer a file to the computer i used VNC file transfer
[05:49] <DerKlempner> yeah, UltraVNC has a file transfer module, works decently
[05:49] <twb> You should be using SFTP or scp for uploading files.  FTP is a horrible protocol and, apart from vsftpd, all FTPd implementations have abysmal security records.
[05:49] <ball> I would hate that.
[05:49] <ball> sftp ftw
[05:49] <twb> Plus if you're using ssh (and you should) for remote administration, SFTP is basically free.
[05:50] <twb> (Though it's called SFTP, it is really nothing like FTP in design.)
[05:50] <DerKlempner> i'll use *some* sort of FTP daemon, i'll worry about choosing the right one when the time comes to install it.  for now, i'm concerned with getting the ISO and doing the install, configuring a static IP, etc.
[05:50] <ball> Right now I'm tunneling VNC through ssh, so that's handy sometimes too.
[05:51] <twb> VNC is such a lowest-common-denominator protocol...
[05:51] <ball> twb: agreed, but at least it's open source and cross platform.
[05:51] <twb> If you've got X on both ends, it'd be far superior to use it
[05:51] <ball> twb: I find X a lot slower
[05:51] <ball> ...and less easy to move around.
[05:52] <twb> ball: that'll be because you're using a toolkit like GTK, which assumes you're not using remote X.
[05:52] <ball> X is faster over a LAN, but VNC works better for me over the Internet
[05:52] <twb> Or worse, OO and xulrunner
[05:52] <DerKlempner> i don't always have X, unfortunately.  i spend a lot of time helping relatives, teaching them how to use their Windows computers.
[05:52] <twb> GTK1 or XAW are adequately fast that you can run them over ISDN lines with no problem.
[05:52] <ball> ...plus over the LAN X can do video :-)
[05:52] <ball> ...supposedly 3D too, though I have yet to try that.
[05:53] <twb> ball: erm, you must have AIGLX working.  Bravo, but don't expect that to work everywhere
[05:53]  * ball nods
[05:53] <ball> I use VNC to let me remotely control some Windows workstations that I have to look after.
[05:53] <DerKlempner> should i stick with the 8.04 LTS, or just go for 9.04?
[05:54] <twb> DerKlempner: for windows, enable RDP.  It's a higher-level protocol than VNC, and should be faster (at least, than lossless VNC)
[05:54] <ball> ...I could use RDP instead, if I knew how to configure that on a Windows box
[05:54] <twb> ball: it's in My Computer > Properties > Advanced > some tab I forget the name of
[05:54] <twb> ball: billed as "remote administration" or something
[05:54] <ball> twb: Last time I did it there were a few different places it needed to be enabled
[05:54] <twb> ball: I think you also need to add the appropriate user to a group
[05:54] <ball> ...the users have to be individually enabled too
[05:55]  * ball nods
[05:55] <ball> that's it.
[05:55] <DerKlempner> no, i mean to access *my* computers from their homes.  if i started installing various SSH-tunneling software to access my computers, they'd all have fits.
[05:55] <twb> That's a GOOD thing
[05:55] <twb> DerKlempner: putty runs without installation
[05:55] <twb> DerKlempner: it's a single .exe
[05:55] <ball> PuTTY ftw
[05:55] <twb> putty is why Windows is better than OS X
[05:55] <ball> it's British too.
[05:55]  * ball waves a flag
[05:55] <DerKlempner> i'll have to look at PuTTY again, i guess.
[05:55] <ball> twb: At least MacOS X ships with an X server
[05:56] <twb> ball: a fucked-up X server
[05:56] <twb> With putty I can maximize it and it's just like I'm sitting in front of a tty
[05:56] <DerKlempner> anyay,8.04 LTS or 9.04?
[05:57] <twb> DerKlempner: do you want stability or functionality?
[05:57] <DerKlempner> *anyway
[05:57] <DerKlempner> lol, both?
[05:57] <twb> For a three-user setup, it doesn't much matter if you go with 9.04
[05:57] <twb> If something breaks, you get only three people pissed at you
[05:57] <DerKlempner> that's what i thought
[05:58] <ball> twb: for the short while I used it, it sufficed.
[05:58] <twb> LTS is more for when, if it breaks, you get thousands of people in three continents pissed at you, and they have pet lawyers
[05:58] <DerKlempner> lol, i only get one person pissed at me: me.
[05:59] <DerKlempner> my home setup uses three systems: one for work (main desktop), one for media, and the file server.
[05:59] <ball> I need a bigger KVM
[05:59] <ball> ...or more monitors
[05:59] <DerKlempner> nobody to upset, if something goes wrong, except myself
[06:00] <ball> ...or something.
[06:00] <Deevz> If I forward port 80 to my server, will it prevent me from browsing the net?
[06:00] <Deevz> using the http protocol I mean, since 80 is http
[06:01] <ball> Deevz: no, it won't
[06:02] <ball> I do that here.
[06:02] <Deevz> ok thx
[06:02] <ball> You're forwarding *inbound* connections
[06:02] <ball> ...to your Web server
[06:02] <Deevz> thats what I understood
[06:02] <Deevz> but I dont know which port the web servers out there use to answer my http requests
[06:02] <ball> http://potch.endoftheinternet.org/
[06:02] <ball> Deevz: you don't have to
[06:03] <DerKlempner> twb: do you use NFS for network shares?
[06:03] <DerKlempner> or ball?
[06:04] <Deevz> I see you use dyndns, ball
[06:04] <ball> Deevz: aye
[06:04] <Deevz> which update client do you use?
[06:04] <ball> DerKlempner: No, sorry.
[06:04] <ball> Deevz: I don't.
[06:05] <ball> There's supposedly one built into my router, but it doesn't work
[06:05] <ball> I try to remember once a day to check that my IP address hasn't changed
[06:05]  * ball shrugs
[06:05] <Deevz> youve got static ip
[06:05] <ball> I thought it was working, but apparently not.
[06:05] <ball> Deevz: Me?  No.
[06:06] <ball> ...just a long lease
[06:06] <Deevz> oh
[06:06] <Deevz> ddclient will update your ip for you
[06:06] <twb> DerKlempner: I use NFSv3, but I'm not happy about it
[06:06] <ball> Deevz: how will it know?
[06:06] <Deevz> know what?
[06:07] <ball> My IP address
[06:07] <twb> DerKlempner: for example, it breaks Firefox 3
[06:07] <Deevz> ball: you dont need to know, the client retrives the ip for you and updates it with dyndns.com
[06:07] <ball> Deevz: retrieves it by checking against a server somewhere?
[06:08] <DerKlempner> twb: do you see a speed increase when transferring large files via NFS as compared to SMBFS/CIFS?
[06:08] <Deevz> there are many ways to configure the retrieval
[06:08] <Deevz> default is to check with the network interface
[06:08] <ball> Deevz: the network interface does not have my WAN IP address.
[06:08] <twb> DerKlempner: I don't know.
[06:08] <Deevz> didnt work with me tho, because Im behind a router and my network interface only knows my NAT ip
[06:08] <Deevz> but I just found a fix on the net
[06:09] <DerKlempner> twb: i'm hoping i do.  i max out around 6MB/sec with Samba.  that's awful, even for a 100Mbit network
[06:09] <Deevz> you can set the retrieval field to 'web' and the web service to 'dyndns'
[06:09] <Deevz> they will find your ip for you
[06:09] <Deevz> http://www.denyerec.co.uk/posts/247
[06:11] <ball> Hmm... might give that a try at some point then.
[06:12] <twb> DerKlempner: then I guess you gotta rice that shit up
[06:12] <DerKlempner> lol
[06:12] <Deevz> ball: its called ddclient, its already in the apt-get list
[06:12] <DerKlempner> burning the ISO now!
[06:14] <DerKlempner> ...or not...
[06:14] <DerKlempner> downloaded the desktop version on accident...
[06:14] <Deevz> lmao
[06:14] <ball> Deevz: I wonder why the one in the router's not working
[06:15] <Deevz> ball: I dont know about that
[06:17] <DerKlempner> thank goodness Comcast's bandwidth doesn't suck where i live...
[06:17] <ball> I'll watch it for a while, to see what happens.
[06:17] <Deevz> ball: good luck with that, must go to sleep
[06:18] <ball> I'm about at that point too.
[06:18] <ball> can't pull another all-nighter tonight
[06:18] <Deevz> lol
[06:18] <Deevz> thats what I did twice this week
[06:18] <Deevz> and I slept 13 hours last night
[06:18] <Deevz> anyhow
[06:19] <Deevz> good night
[06:19] <ball> Goodnight
[07:04] <artillerytx> Hey guys i am running drupal on my server i have one install working perfectly and just installed another and im getting an HTTP request status error any ideas?
[07:19] <aw> I am trying to follow these instructions:  http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/jeos-and-vmbuilder.html -- but am getting an error:  --libvirt: not found  -- but I know libvirt is installed (via Package Manager).   Do I need qemu installed?
[07:20] <aw> Or do I need to rename something:  --libvirt qemu:///system   (I don't truly understand what this does).
[07:37] <artillerytx> Hey guys i have 2 installs of drupal on my server right now one is working correctly the other is getting a HTTP Request status: Fails
[07:38] <artillerytx> bueller? bueller?
[07:44] <aw> Two drupals on the same port or ip?  Only one is going to work...
[07:45] <artillerytx> i have virtual servers set up
[07:45] <artillerytx> virtual hosts
[07:48] <artillerytx> i should be able to run more than 1 drupal install on virtual hosts right ?
[07:49] <artillerytx> correct me if im wrong
[07:49] <aw> Assuming that the configurations are truly separate, yes I think so.  Are you sure the two instances aren't pointing to the same config files, databases, ports or ips?
[07:50] <artillerytx> i have separate .conf files for each host and the other domain is using the public ip
[07:51] <artillerytx> i mean they are all using my dns servers
[07:52] <artillerytx> aw here are my two .conf files - http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m71fe9854
[07:54] <artillerytx> aw i mean .hosts files
[07:54] <artillerytx> aw sorry
[07:56] <aw> Which is working and which is failing/
[07:56] <aw> ?
[07:57] <artillerytx> longhornpcrepair.com is working
[07:57] <artillerytx> wwmcd.org is not
[07:57] <nick125> What's the issue?
[07:58] <artillerytx> i have one install of drupal on my server working perfectly howerver... my other drupal installs correctly than i get to the status/reports on the site and it gives me a -http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m1bac6304
[07:58] <aw> From where you are testing, if you ping both you get the same IP:  75.43.20.78
[07:59] <artillerytx> im on the same network as the server
[07:59] <nick125> aw: It's not an issue getting to the site, it's a Drupal error
[07:59] <artillerytx> nick125 why is it one works but the other doesn't
[07:59] <nick125> artillerytx: That's the weird part.
[08:00] <artillerytx> nick125: they are the exact same version
[08:00] <artillerytx> aw yes i get the same ip for both domains
[08:00] <nick125> artillerytx: Can your server resolve the domains to an IP and ping that IP?
[08:00] <nick125> Apparently, Drupal tries to connect to itself via the DNS name
[08:01] <artillerytx> um.. not sure
[08:01] <nick125> artillerytx: on the server, ping wwmcd.org
[08:01] <artillerytx> sorry I'm a newb to this right now
[08:01] <artillerytx> nick125: yeah i get 75.43.20.78
[08:02] <nick125> artillerytx: Can you ping that IP from the server?
[08:02] <artillerytx> yes
[08:03] <nick125> Hmm.
[08:03] <artillerytx> is there an error log i could get more a specific error
[08:04] <nick125> Check the Drupal log, perhaps.
[08:04] <nick125> I don't think the Apache logs would have much in them regarding the Drupal error
[08:04] <artillerytx> nick125: haha weird ... in the details it says attempted to fetch information on availble updates and for the hostname it gives me a local ip
[08:05] <artillerytx> maybe thats the problem
[08:05] <nick125> check your /etc/hosts
[08:05] <artillerytx> on my server?
[08:05] <nick125> Might be worth a shot.
[08:05] <aw> Have you read this?  http://drupal.org/node/222454
[08:05] <artillerytx> yes
[08:06] <artillerytx> so i need to add my public ip to the hosts file
[08:06] <artillerytx> 75.43.20.78 - wwmcd.org
[08:06] <nick125> Basically, Drupal tries to connect to itself..so you need to be sure that Drupal can connect to itself and get the home page.
[08:06] <artillerytx> or i mean the server sorry
[08:07] <artillerytx> okay i added the updates.drupal.org ip and what not
[08:08] <artillerytx> I think thats what im supposed to do
[08:08] <nick125> You shouldn't need to add updates.drupal.org
[08:08] <artillerytx> oh what am i adding to the hosts file
[08:08] <nick125> http://api.drupal.org/api/function/system_requirements/6 < that calls system_check_http_request and if that function call fails, it puts the error you're getting into the Drupal logs.
[08:10] <nick125> I'm not sure why one Drupal would work and the other wouldn't.
[08:10] <artillerytx> me either
[08:10] <nick125> artillerytx: pastebin your /etc/hosts
[08:10] <artillerytx> k
[08:11] <artillerytx> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m236de454
[08:11] <artillerytx> the name of the pc is longhornpc
[08:12] <artillerytx> back sorry about that
[08:12] <artillerytx> did you get my messages
[08:12] <nick125> I got the paste
[08:12] <artillerytx> k cool
[08:13] <artillerytx> i heard if you comment out the ::1 localhost line it works
[08:13] <nick125> Might want to try that
[08:15] <artillerytx> nope didn't work
[08:16] <nick125> If you do wget http://wwmcd.org on the server, does it download the HTML for the home page?
[08:16] <artillerytx> its connecting to it
[08:17] <artillerytx> but taking awhile
[08:17] <nick125> It should download it instantly
[08:17] <artillerytx> resolving wwmcd.org ... 75.43.20.78
[08:17] <nick125> ctrl-C that and try wget http://longhornpcrepair.com
[08:17] <nick125> pastebin the output from both commands
[08:17] <artillerytx> okay
[08:18] <artillerytx> same thing
[08:18] <nick125> really slow?
[08:18] <artillerytx> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m42027882
[08:18] <artillerytx> yeah
[08:18] <nick125> That's part of your problem.
[08:18] <artillerytx> we are all on a router
[08:19] <artillerytx> so its not smart enough to resolve the host name and do the loopback or whatever
[08:19] <nick125> Some routers won't allow you to access a 1:1 NAT'ed public IP from inside of the network
[08:19] <artillerytx> its a uverse 2wire thing
[08:20] <nick125> I can give you a somewhat hackish fix: just add them to /etc/hosts 127.0.0.1 line
[08:20] <artillerytx> yeah but thats still makes no sense why one is working another is not
[08:20] <artillerytx> you mean for the loopback
[08:21] <nick125> e.g., 127.0.0.1 localhost longhornpcrepair.com wwmcd.org
[08:21] <nick125> yeah
[08:21] <artillerytx> yeah well i edited the host file on my computer
[08:21] <artillerytx> so it works over here
[08:21] <nick125> you need to edit it on the server to get rid of the error from Drupal
[08:21] <artillerytx> oh okay
[08:22] <artillerytx> is it ... a tab in between each
[08:22] <artillerytx> or just a space
[08:22] <nick125> I usually use spaces, but a tab should work
[08:22] <artillerytx> k lets see if your right
[08:22] <artillerytx> yes sir
[08:22] <artillerytx> that fixed it
[08:23] <nick125> Great.
[08:23] <nick125> But yeah, that's one reason I got rid of 1:1 NAT...I got tired of dealing with that quirk
[08:23] <artillerytx> yeah
[08:23] <artillerytx> do you know why my cURL is not showing up for the other domain
[08:24] <nick125> What do you mean?
[08:24] <artillerytx> let me take a screenshot
[08:24] <artillerytx> this might be a drupal thing actually
[08:25] <artillerytx> i have simplexml and cURL installed on my server but its only showing up for the longhornpc one
[08:25] <artillerytx> maybe something in the .htaccess
[08:25] <artillerytx> ?
[08:25] <nick125> Where did you put it?
[08:25] <artillerytx> home directory
[08:26] <artillerytx> i think
[08:26] <nick125> Where did you install simplexml and curl to?
[08:26] <artillerytx> root directory
[08:26] <artillerytx> which would be /home
[08:27] <nick125> Are you talking about a curl/simplexml plugin for Drupal or something else?
[08:27] <artillerytx> no its something i had to install on the server
[08:27] <nick125> How did you install it?
[08:27] <artillerytx> apt-get i think
[08:28] <nick125> Okay....just for the heck of it, restart apache.
[08:28] <artillerytx> okay
[08:28] <artillerytx> k done
[08:28] <nick125> Then click on refresh while holding shift down
[08:28] <artillerytx> still not showing up
[08:29] <nick125> Take a screenshot, maybe that would help.
[08:30] <artillerytx> wwmcd.org - http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/197/picture1129.png
[08:32] <artillerytx> longhornpcrepair.com - http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/8774/picture237.png
[08:32] <nick125> That looks like a Drupal plugin that isn't installed for wwmcd.org.
[08:33] <artillerytx> i thought cURL would just show up alright maybe im just insane
[08:33] <nick125> http://drupal.org/project/curl
[08:33] <nick125> It looks like the Drupal base installation doesn't come with the curl module, which would explain why it doesn't show up
[08:34] <artillerytx> no i don't have that one installed
[08:34] <nick125> You must have it installed on the other domain, though.
[08:34] <artillerytx> no i don't
[08:35] <artillerytx> i remeber installing it .. its some php thing
[08:35] <artillerytx> php5 curl
[08:35] <nick125> That's the PHP cURL library.
[08:35] <artillerytx> yeah
[08:36] <nick125> The Drupal install on longhornpcrepair.com has the cURL Drupal plugin installed while wwmcd.org doesn't.
[08:37] <artillerytx> thats weird alright.. i don't see the cURL in my modules
[08:37] <artillerytx> its not big deal
[08:37] <artillerytx> no
[08:37] <nick125> Where are you checking?
[08:37] <nick125> it can be in /sites/default/modules, /sites/all/modules, /modules, etc
[08:37] <artillerytx> i put all my modules in sites/all/modules
[08:38] <artillerytx> wait
[08:38] <artillerytx> maybe its the php one
[08:38] <artillerytx> ahh whatever
[08:39] <nick125> Unless you have a plugin that needs it on wwmcd.org, I wouldn't worry about it.
[08:39] <artillerytx> right
[08:39] <artillerytx> thanks again
[08:39] <nick125> Sure.
[09:00] <artillerytx> if i install php-pear what do i need to put in my php.ini so i can use it
[09:04] <artillerytx> nick125 hey do you know what this is - http://pastebin.com/d4f42a273
[10:12] <Navop> I need to keep track of 6 computers downloads(to which is d/l more then the other, and I want ot be able to restrict the # of gigs d/l /computer is this possible with unbuntu server)
[10:15] <Navop> example i want to allow 5 gigs per computer, once the 5 gigs is used up it stops that computer from d/l till the following month
[10:18] <alex_joni> Navop: http://linuxgazette.net/108/odonovan.html
[10:19] <Navop> ty
[10:19] <alex_joni> you'll have to do some reading on iptables
[10:19] <alex_joni> but using iptables you can set up rules for each PC, and quota on them
[10:20] <Navop> thanks for info, and if i need to read...np
[10:20] <alex_joni> it's probably easier than it looks at first glance ;)
[10:21] <Navop> like the #7 setting transfer quotas
[10:23] <alex_joni> right, but only having that won't work ..
[10:24] <alex_joni> you need the whole thing running, before you add quota things
[10:24] <alex_joni> for setting up iptables there are tons of tutorials, and programs that generate rules (if you don't want to write them by hand)
[10:25] <Navop> what i'll do is redo my unbuntu server, then insert it on network, and test as i go and ask question....
[10:26] <Navop> and do alot of reading...lol
[10:45] <qiyong>  clamav-daemon (clamd) doesn't start up autoamatically
[10:45] <qiyong> there's K19clamav-daemon
[10:45] <qiyong> no startup links
[10:45] <qiyong> is that bug?
[11:36] <captainkirk> hi all. how do I find out what version of openoffice.org i have installed on my ubuntu 9.04 server
[11:51] <RoyK> captainkirk: help/about
[11:52] <captainkirk> royk I am on a server with terminal only
[11:52] <captainkirk> royk I am running server with terminal only
[11:52] <RoyK> ops
[11:53] <RoyK> dpkg -l|grep -i openoff
[11:53] <RoyK> that should show you the version
[11:53] <RoyK> sec - I need to start my ubuntu vm to check
[11:55] <captainkirk> royk it tells me there are lots of 3.1.0-11 packages, which is correct
[11:55] <captainkirk> royk problem is, using the "which soffice" command returns nothing
[11:58] <RoyK> captainkirk: here it returns /usr/bin/soffice
[11:59] <captainkirk> royk that is correct
[12:00] <captainkirk> i tried to remove the ubuntu supplied version and install the latest version from the openoffice.org site
[12:00] <captainkirk> i seem to have messed something up
[12:00] <captainkirk> any ideas on how to remove it all and start again?
[12:01] <captainkirk> using your command supplied above to list all the installed packages, I can see that the openoffice.org-core is still the original ubuntu package, not the new one
[12:04] <RoyK> I guess the one from openoffice.org installs under /usr/local/bin
[12:04] <RoyK> or /usr/local/something
[12:04] <pmatulis> i joined late but what does Openoffice have to do with ubuntu server?
[12:04] <RoyK> or perhaps /opt
[12:04]  * RoyK has no friggin' idea
[12:05] <RoyK> that is - I once used it with an email-to-fax system for converting MS Office documents extracted from email to be faxed
[12:05] <captainkirk> lol.... I am trying to remove the ubuntu 9.04 supplied openoffice packages and replace with openoffice.org
[12:05] <RoyK> why?
[12:06] <pmatulis> captainkirk: you should have more luck in either #ubuntu or #openoffice
[12:06] <captainkirk> i am running an application (alfresco) which is not working with the ubuntu supplied openoffice, but research shows that others have had success replacing with the openoffice.org deb packages
[12:08] <captainkirk> i have downloaded the tar.gz and extracted teh .deb files and ran dpkg -i *.deb and now nothing is working
[12:10] <captainkirk> do i need to do something else after dpkg -i *.deb command to install deb package?
[12:13] <RoyK> captainkirk: dpkg -l packagename will list the installed files from that package
[12:16] <captainkirk> how can I completely remove all openoffice packages for a fresh install?
[12:17] <captainkirk> dpkg --help
[12:17] <captainkirk> oops... wrong screen
[12:21] <jussi01> captainkirk: please heed the topic and go to #ubuntu for general questions
[12:23] <RoyK> dpkg -r --purge captainkirk
[12:25] <captainkirk> it says i can -r and --purge in the same command
[12:26] <captainkirk> so should i -r the package and the --purge it
[12:32] <maxb> RoyK: You mean -L not -l
[12:33] <RoyK> maxb: yeah, sorry, -L or --listfiles
[12:35] <RoyK> captainkirk: please ask on #ubuntu for general ubuntu questions - this is strictly a ubuntu server channel. about the difference between removing and purging a package, man dpkg
[13:17] <cemc> does anybody know about a good free speedtest software? one that can be put up on a webserver for ppl to test speed with. something like speedtest.net but obviously more simple
[13:18] <baffle> How are things going with the server-karmic-directory-architecture blueprint? Is there any push behind it? It would be a killer feature for the enterprise crowd to have this out of the box.
[13:30] <RoyK> cemc: there are several web benchmarking software packages
[13:30] <RoyK> let me check
[13:31] <RoyK> seems there should be something in apache2-utils
[13:31] <RoyK> but I'm in the middle of an upgrade, so I can't install that now
[13:32] <cemc> RoyK: I'll take a look at that, thanks
[14:39] <doctormo> Hello all
[14:39] <doctormo> Question: Is it possible to detect from the ubuntu server what operating system a client is currently booted up into, say if you have a multi-os network?
[14:40] <mattt> doctormo: port scan?  :)
[14:41] <doctormo> mattt: Was thinking that, but I'm a programmer not a windows admin :-D perhaps there are some standard ports?
[14:42] <doctormo> Although I'm kinda surprised there isn't some standard tool, I've seen people pull exact versions of windows on the network before.
[14:44] <Kartagis> hello
[14:44] <Kartagis> I have Host or domain name not found. Name service error for name=hotmail.com type=MX: Host not found, try again in my log. does that mean sending was not successful?
[14:48] <_ruben> Kartagis: it means your dns is broken
[14:49] <_ruben> doctormo: nmap can do a very decent job at os detection
[14:56] <Kartagis> _ruben, I only changed the IP block. how could that break my DNS?
[14:56] <pmatulis> Kartagis: can you reach your default gateway?
[14:56] <Kartagis> pmatulis, yes
[14:57] <pmatulis> Kartagis: try to resolve some internet host
[14:58] <Kartagis> pmatulis, tolga@ozses:~$ nslookup google.com
[14:58] <Kartagis> Server:		192.168.2.2
[14:58] <Kartagis> Address:	192.168.2.2#53
[14:58] <Kartagis> Non-authoritative answer:
[14:58] <Kartagis> Name:	google.com
[14:58] <Kartagis> Address: 74.125.67.100
[14:58] <pmatulis> Kartagis: then: 'host -t mx hotmail.com'
[14:59] <Kartagis> pmatulis, host -t mx hotmail.com
[14:59] <Kartagis> hotmail.com mail is handled by 5 mx4.hotmail.com.
[15:00] <pmatulis> Kartagis: looks like you have a misconfiguration issue then, what app is giving you the above error?
[15:01] <sgsax> doctormo: nmap -O <ip_addr>
[15:01] <sgsax> but even that won't be 100%
[15:06] <quizme> hi, my ubuntu server doesn't allow users to enter a password when they login from home.... I get Permission denied (publickey).  How do I allow users to login using passwords ?
[15:07] <ball> quizme: do you have sshd installed and running?
[15:08] <quizme> ball: i can ssh in there for the 'ubuntu' user so yes i think so.
[15:09] <ball> I don't think I have an ubuntu user.
[15:09] <ball> brb, phone
[15:10] <sgsax> quizme: is this any user from any host that is blocked?
[15:10] <sgsax> or just one particular user or one marticular machine?
[15:10] <cycleian> Hi, I'm trying to prepare a couple of packages for Ubuntu.  So far so good with the first package, but the second package depends on the first.  How do I tell debuild where the first package is when I'm building the second package?
[15:10] <quizme> sgsax yeah every user
[15:10] <sgsax> quizme: no matter what machine they are trying to login from?
[15:10] <Kartagis> pmatulis, postfix
[15:10] <quizme> sgsax: i can login as 'ubuntu' but not as 'tempuser' from my home machine for example.
[15:11] <sgsax> "ubuntu" is the initial account you setup with the installer?
[15:11] <quizme> sgsax: yeah
[15:11] <quizme> sgsax: is the primary sudoer
[15:11] <sgsax> and you can login as "ubuntu" from home, but not "tempuser" from home
[15:11] <Sam-I-Am> cycleian: you can install the first package so the second package can see it... i tend to use chroots for build environments so i can separate things
[15:11] <quizme> sgsax: correct
[15:11] <sgsax> k, just wanted to be clear
[15:12] <quizme> sgsax: i have my public key in /home/ubuntu/.ssh/authorized_keys
[15:12] <quizme> that's why i can login as ubuntu
[15:12] <quizme> but all other users are disallowed
[15:12] <sgsax> so "ubuntu" logis in use pub key and not password
[15:12] <quizme> very sad
[15:12] <sgsax> *logs
[15:12] <quizme> sgsax yes
[15:12] <pmatulis> Kartagis: looks like you need to work on postfix then
[15:12] <quizme> sgsax basically passwords is turned off
[15:13] <quizme> sgsax i want to know how to turn it on
[15:13] <cycleian> Sam-I-Am: Right, I'm trying to use pbuilder to build the second package.  How do I tell the pbuilder environment to install the first package?
[15:13] <Kartagis> pmatulis, can I pastebin my main.cf
[15:13] <sgsax> quizme: can you pastebin your /etc/ssh/sshd_config, pls
[15:13] <Kartagis> ?
[15:13] <quizme> sgsax okay but don't hack me hehe
[15:13] <quizme> j/k
[15:13] <sgsax> don't leave anything important in there :)
[15:13] <Kartagis> quizme, and give me your password
[15:13] <Sam-I-Am> cycleian: you can just install it with dpkg -i
[15:13] <Kartagis> :D
[15:14] <quizme_> hi
[15:14] <quizme_> ok just checking
[15:14] <quizme_> this is my other comp
[15:14] <Sam-I-Am> cycleian: i usually build all the deps in separate chroots, then install them individually into other chroots that build stuff which depends on them
[15:15] <sgsax> quizme: you can also look at /var/log/auth.log, see if there are any useful messages in there
[15:15] <quizme> kartagis: passwords don't work anyway... hehe
[15:15] <cycleian> Sam-I-Am: So I shouldn't use pbuilder?  My understanding was that pbuilder does the chrooting for you...
[15:16] <quizme_> http://pastie.org/575453
[15:16] <Sam-I-Am> cycleian: i'm not really familiar with pbuilder... i think it does... but you might want to check the docs.  i use dpkg-buildpackage for my packages usually.
[15:18] <quizme> sgsax: did u see it ?
[15:18] <sgsax> quizme: yep, only difference I see from mine is I have "ChallengeResponseAuthentication yes"
[15:19] <sgsax> also set "LogLevel DEBUG" for more detail in your /etc/var/auth.log
[15:19] <quizme> should i set Challenge.... to yes ?
[15:19] <sgsax> give it a try
[15:19] <quizme> k
[15:19] <quizme> i'm up for the sshd challenge
[15:19] <sgsax> that should be the default
[15:20] <sgsax> be sure to /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[15:21] <sgsax> no need to reboot the whole box
[15:21] <quizme> sgsax: oh that was my next question.... how to reboot thanks
[15:21] <quizme> sgsax: yes!  that worked.  thanks so much
[15:22] <sgsax> np
[15:22] <sgsax> I go for the low-hanging fruit around here :)
[15:22] <quizme> sgsax: hehe
[15:22] <quizme> sgsax: at least you go for some fruit
[15:23] <sgsax> it's how I like to contribute
[15:23] <quizme> i'm a newbie at this sysadmin stuff
[15:23] <sgsax> I'll never be a kernel hacker
[15:23] <quizme> it's ok
[15:23] <quizme> i'm not either
[15:24] <quizme> we can hang out together
[15:24] <quizme> and not hack kernels
[15:24] <quizme> i do as little sysadmin as possible
[15:24] <quizme> unfortunately it's been a lot lately
[15:25] <quizme> running on EC2.... wrote a backup thingamajiggy with capistrano....
[15:25] <quizme> took my like 2 weeks
[15:25] <quizme> me*
[15:26] <sgsax> fun
[15:26] <quizme> 2 weeks of my life *gone* for sys admin...
[15:26] <sgsax> what's your regular job?
[15:26] <quizme> i like to program
[15:26] <quizme> and avoid sys admin
[15:26] <quizme> but i do outsourcing
[15:26] <quizme> of programming jobs
[15:27] <sgsax> ah, one of "those" guys
[15:27] <sgsax> :)
[15:27] <quizme> yeah
[15:27] <quizme> the evil ones
[15:27] <quizme> how bout u ?
[15:27] <sgsax> I work for the State, so I'm just a Government mouthpiece
[15:27] <quizme> oh
[15:28] <quizme> sysadmin for the state ?
[15:28] <quizme> of California ?
[15:28] <sgsax> university
[15:28] <sgsax> State of KS
[15:28] <quizme> There is a famous topologist at the U. of Kansas
[15:29] <sgsax> not that university :)
[15:29] <sgsax> the other one
[15:30] <sgsax> not sure what we're famous for
[15:30] <quizme> sys admin probably
[15:31] <cycleian> Sam-I-Am: OK, I found a bit about doing this in the pbuilder tutorial - I'll let you know how it works.  Is there a good reason *not* to use pbuilder?
[15:31] <sgsax> unless you've seen the youtube vid "The Machine is Us/ing Us", the guy that did that is here
[15:32] <sgsax> x
[15:32] <sgsax> yep, I'm a sysadmin for a dept here
[15:33] <quizme> oh that's cool
[15:33] <quizme> we should probably take this off channel though
[15:33] <sgsax> true
[15:39] <Sam-I-Am> cycleian: probably not... people seem to like it.
[15:41] <Kartagis> pmatulis, can I pastebin my main.cf?
[15:41] <_ruben> dont paste main.cf, paste the output of postconf -n instead .. then again, i wont be looking at it, as im heading out now :)
[15:42] <pmatulis> Kartagis: you can pastebin what _ruben suggested but i don't have much time to troubleshoot your issue since i'm at work
[15:43] <pmatulis> Kartagis: pastebin your logs too (/var/log/mail.log)
[16:09] <Kartagis> pmatulis, my logs are on http://pastebin.com/dc54d5d7 and _ruben, remind me what you suggested I paste?
[16:11] <Steve[mbp]> Morning everyone!
[16:14]  * ball waves
[16:16] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #409987 in apache2 (main) "apache2 segfault using mod_deflate" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/409987
[16:30] <pmatulis> Kartagis: are you sure that the machine hosting postfix can resolve internet names?
[16:46] <Kartagis> pmatulis, yes
[16:47] <Kartagis> pmatulis, name any site and I'll tell you
[16:47] <Kartagis> would restarting postfix fix the issue?
[16:48] <sgsax> Kartagis: any time you make changes to the configs, you should restart the service
[16:48] <Kartagis> sgsax, I didn't make a change to postfix tho
[16:50] <Kartagis> restarting postfix did fix the issue
[16:52] <Kartagis> one more issue. after I changed the IP block, my local SSL site doesn't work. how come?
[16:52] <Sam-I-Am> because your ssl cert is probably bound to an IP
[16:53] <Sam-I-Am> well, at least a hostname (that might have changed)
[16:53] <Kartagis> Sam-I-Am, how can I find out if it is bound to a specific IP?
[16:54] <Sam-I-Am> well, whats the error?
[16:55] <Kartagis> Sam-I-Am, weird. it fixed itself
[16:55] <Sam-I-Am> could have been a temporary dns issue
[16:55] <Sam-I-Am> certs like when dns works
[16:55] <Kartagis> Sam-I-Am, it is working now
[16:56] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #409876 in php5 (main) "php5 crashed with SIGSEGV in _Unwind_ForcedUnwind()" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/409876
[16:56] <Kartagis> I got a new modem/router and its IP block was different than my old one. that's how everything started
[16:58] <sgsax> Kartagis: you use some kind of dyndns?
[16:59] <Kartagis> sgsax, no, I use named
[16:59] <Sam-I-Am> who handles dns for your outside ip that changed?
[17:00] <Kartagis> no, my outs,
[17:01] <Kartagis> no, my outside IP didn't change. it's modem's IP block that changed. it is 192.168.2.1 now
[17:02] <Kartagis> thanks anyway for the help
[17:02] <Kartagis> bye
[18:07] <dinda> sommer: ping dude!
[18:15] <Deevz_> I got a problem with my hostname while installing apache
[18:15] <Deevz_> hostname: Unknown host
[18:15] <Deevz_> make-ssl-cert: Could not get FQDN, using "QuoteNet".
[18:17] <MK13> how could i make my dns server forward all hostnames to just one server?
[18:21] <nick125_> Anyone here know of a guide that explains how to use the new cn=config configuration setup that the OpenLDAP in Jaunty is using?
[18:25] <sommer> dinda: yo
[18:25] <dinda> sommer: dude!!! looking for a quick opinion from you and other server types
[18:26] <dinda> Trying to find a word other than architect, as in RHCA, for our new Ubuntu highest level certification level
[18:26] <dinda> some have suggested Ninja ;)
[18:26] <nick125_> Ubuntu Certified SuperAwesomeAdmin
[18:26] <sommer> heh, ninja is good
[18:26] <dinda> but perhaps something like Guru or Master. . . lol
[18:27] <dinda> Builder?  Developer?
[18:27] <sommer> expert?
[18:28] <sommer> that's kind of a tough one
[18:28] <dinda> others are saying Expert as well. . .
[18:30] <sommer> master isn't bad either... what are the other levels?
[18:31] <dinda> sommer: so far, just UCP then something akin to RHCE (UCP level 2?) then some specialists areas then the top level 4
[18:32] <sommer> hmmmm, ya I think expert fits well with UCP
[18:32] <dinda> sommer: maybe we ask around to find some african word for it. .
[18:35] <sommer> heh, that would be pretty cool... don't know many african word myself
[18:35] <sommer> what about Ubuntu Server Ace :-)
[18:36] <dinda> sommer: really?  you mean you don't study zulu and banta in your spare time?
[18:36] <sommer> dinda: heeh, italian's on my list... as well as english
[18:36] <sommer> wait...
[18:36] <dinda> sommer: that english can be tricky ;)
[18:38] <sommer> dinda: I think my best suggestion is expert, but Ubuntu Server Champion sound pretty cool too :)
[18:39] <dinda> ooh Champion - then we gave folks who earn those big boxing/wrestling like title belts
[18:39] <dinda> RHCAs get a leather jacket so we can out bling them
[18:40] <sommer> heh that's a great idea
[18:42] <nick125_> Hmm....can I nest organizational units (ou) in OpenLDAP? i.e., ou=POSIX,ou=Groups,dc=foobar,dc=com
[18:43] <sommer> nick125_: I'm pretty sure you can
[18:43] <nick125_> sommer: Great.
[18:43] <nick125_> I guess I'll find out once I try to add this schema.
[19:04] <vector_xyz> hey guys i am adding a user using -> sudo adduser thegeek | but how do i limit that user not from going into other home directories etc.. besides his own ?
[19:05] <vector_xyz> i want him only to access his own dir
[19:05] <KillMeNow> sounds like you want to jail him
[19:05] <vector_xyz> well if you are selling shells do you want your customer to walk around ?
[19:05] <KillMeNow> that means you will need to google chroot jail
[19:05] <vector_xyz> and view other customers home dirs
[19:05] <KillMeNow> yea, this is for ssh access right?
[19:05] <KillMeNow> or jsut FTP?
[19:06] <vector_xyz> yep ssh
[19:07] <KillMeNow> yea, chroot jails is what you want
[19:07] <KillMeNow> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=258622
[19:08] <KillMeNow> start there
[19:08] <KillMeNow> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575
[19:08] <KillMeNow> then check that out
[19:08] <vector_xyz> thx :)
[19:08] <vector_xyz> worked gr8
[19:09] <giovani> vector_xyz: with proper permissions, he shouldn't be able to read anything you don't want him to
[19:09] <giovani> there are very few good reasons to jail a user
[19:10] <vector_xyz> well i probably should learn more about permissions so i can sell ssh access
[19:10] <vector_xyz> without anyone damaging the core system files or so
[19:10] <giovani> vector_xyz: no normal user can damage system files
[19:11] <giovani> honestly, selling shells
[19:11] <vector_xyz> how would i set an user to be superuser ? if i am using adduser
[19:11] <giovani> you set your sudoers file
[19:11] <giovani> or add them to the admin group
[19:12] <giovani> but selling shells ... has no purpose anymore
[19:12] <giovani> VPSes are so incredibly cheap
[19:12] <giovani> that they can get their own full os, with full root, for a few bucks a month
[19:13] <vector_xyz> i am giving that as an example :P im actually using a Dedicated Server to run my Development stuff on it, but i dont want other devs to damage anything :) like SVN, git etc.. i will host on there
[19:13]  * dare knows more people who buy shell access than vps..
[19:13] <giovani> dare: I don't know a single person who's purchased a shell in like 5+ years
[19:13] <KillMeNow> selling shells is really old school...  you would probably make more $$$ selling Xen VM's
[19:14] <giovani> and uou shouldn't be selling xen vms if you don't know how to work linux permissions :)
[19:14] <giovani> there are enough incompetent vm providers
[19:14] <giovani> because they've been told it's an easy way to make money
[19:16] <nick125_> giovani: s/vm/hosting/g
[19:19] <nick125_> I've worked with a lot of "hosting providers" that all they do is buy a reseller account on their daddy's credit card...quite sad.
[19:20] <KillMeNow> i get it for free from my ISP
[19:26] <sgsax> vector_xyz: you can also add a non-shell account
[19:26] <sgsax> so they can use git/svn/whatever, just not actually get a login shell
[19:34] <Deevz> anyone familliar with ddclient?
[19:35] <Deevz> I dont understand why it doesnt update my ip automatically when my server boots up
[19:36] <sgsax> Deevz: I use it at home and it doesn't seem to update my no-ip.org on a timely basis
[19:36] <sgsax> I always assumed it was because my ISP flaps a lot and it's just been down at the cron'd update time
[19:36] <Deevz> sgsax: you might not have config'd it to run as a daemon
[19:37] <Deevz> but I think ddclient just isnt ran when my os initializes
[19:43] <sgsax> Deevz: update-rc.d ddclient defaults
[19:43] <sgsax> or whatever the ddclient service name is
[19:44] <sgsax> that will make sure it is added to the default runlevels
[19:44] <Deevz> ok
[19:44] <Deevz> what are '.d' files?
[19:45] <sgsax> in general?
[19:45] <sgsax> update-rc.d just adds or removes symlinks in the /etc/rc.d dirs
[19:46] <sgsax> it's the debian way of managing startup services
[19:48] <Deevz> I get ya on the last sentence
[19:48] <Deevz> but have no idea what symlinks are
[19:48] <Deevz> ill take a look at that file
[19:49] <KillMeNow> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=73096
[19:49] <KillMeNow> Deevz, check that out
[19:51] <sgsax> KillMeNow: nice
[19:52] <Deevz> ok, thx
[19:54] <Deevz> where is update-rc.d?
[19:54] <sgsax> should be in your search path
[19:54] <sgsax> needs to be run as root/sudo
[19:55] <sgsax> it's in /usr/sbin, so not in a typical user path unless you added it
[19:56] <Deevz> woah
[19:56] <Deevz> thats one complicated file
[19:56] <sgsax> it's a shell script
[19:57] <sgsax> debian gives you several update-* scripts to help you do stuff
[19:57] <hggdh> usually it is not a good idea to add non-system-provided binaries (or symlinks) under /sbin, /bin, /usr/sbin, or /usr/bin. Better to use /usr/local for taht
[19:58] <sgsax> hggdh: indeed
[20:03] <Deevz> i doubt this helped :(
[20:03] <Deevz> it says the startup link already exists
[20:03] <sgsax> k
[20:04] <sgsax> do you have it set for logging?
[20:04] <Deevz> logging?
[20:05] <Deevz> is it run with administrative power at startup tho?
[20:05] <sgsax> if it's actually getting launched as a service, yes
[20:05] <Deevz> because ddclient gives me a lot of error if I try to run it without sudo
[20:06] <sgsax> cd into /var/log and do "grep ddclient *"
[20:06] <sgsax> see if it's logging any output anywhere, generating errors
[20:06] <sgsax> most likely in /var/log/messages
[20:07] <sgsax> should do this as sudo/root
[20:14] <Deevz> it gave me a warning for update skipping once and another time because it couldnt connect to the web service to get my ip
[20:15] <Deevz> and curiously, its doesnt seem to update every 5m
[20:17] <sgsax> you read through this yet: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DynamicDNS
[20:17] <Deevz> nop, thx for the link
[20:23] <Deevz> might be better off using my router to do it :P
[20:25] <sgsax> looks like I'm using noip2 at home, not ddclient
[20:38] <Deevz> sgsax: do me a favor please
[20:39] <Deevz> tell me if you if your browser can connect to 205.233.124.235
[20:41] <sgsax> Deevz: affirmative
[20:41] <Deevz> weird...
[20:41] <sgsax> I can't ping your IP, but apache responds on it
[20:41] <Deevz> my domain doesnt seem to work
[20:42] <Deevz> sgsax: thats probably because the port youre pinging on is blocked
[20:42] <sgsax> can you login to your dyndns provider and see what it currently has registered?
[20:45] <Deevz> sgsax: my domain is currently bound to 205.233.124.235
[20:45] <Deevz> but it doesnt work
[20:47] <sgsax> Deevz: see privmsg for long paste
[21:22] <quizme> how much RAM memory is required for Postfix?
[23:33] <zroysch> is there something special i need to do to get sound working in server 9.04
[23:33] <zroysch> its an sb live card. old. worked fine with the non server version
[23:35] <KillMeNow> IIRC - server version doesn't have sound drivers
[23:35] <KillMeNow> it's a desktop thing
[23:37] <zroysch> http://pastebin.ca/1521207
[23:38] <zroysch> does this mean that is untrue?
[23:38] <nick125> you might need to install some utilities
[23:39] <zroysch> i installed alsa-base alsa-utils alsa-tools libasound2