[00:04] <rapha> did i say something wrong?
[00:11] <verterok> rapha: could you check the log file, please pastebin the output of: tail -n 100 ~/.cache/ubuntuone/syncdaemon.log
[00:12] <verterok> sladen: done, #407268
[00:13] <verterok> sladen: ^ that's a dupe of #354502
[00:15] <verterok> ubottu: bug #354502
[00:34] <sladen> verterok et al: can you unhide bug #357575  and then combine the dups to  bug #371674  (#friendlymachinenames)
[00:35] <verterok> sladen: let me check the contents of it first ;)
[00:35] <verterok> sladen: done, #357575 is "unhided"
[00:37] <verterok> sladen: done, now all are dups of #371674
[01:33] <rapha> verterok: it's .cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon.log for me
[01:34] <rapha> verterok: and it only says http://pastie.org/574893
[02:24] <verterok> rapha: so, looks like it's connected and uploading files
[02:24] <verterok> rapha: please check this with: u1sdtool --current-transfers
[02:39] <dobey> haha, awesome. i just found a not very scientific article about photovoltaic ink, and it uses the term "buckyballs"
[03:34] <tcole1> buckyballs is a perfectly scientific name for spherical fullerenes
[06:42] <eekfonky> what dependencies should I have installed in synaptic? there are python and non-python packages, my ubuntuone daemon just keeps spinning
[07:00] <eekfonky> What packages should I have installed in synaptic for ubuntuone?
[11:09] <rapha> verterok: u1sdtool says it's not up- or downloading anything, yet the icon never stops spinning.
[13:00] <Chipaca> good morning, all
[13:12] <Chipaca> tcole: ping
[13:12] <joshuahoover> good morning Chipaca
[13:39] <tcole> good morning
[13:39] <tcole> Chipaca: pong
[13:41] <Chipaca> damn, I forgot
[13:41] <Chipaca> tcole: something about a bug assigned to you not being up to par, I'm sure
[13:42] <tcole> ah well
[13:46] <tcole> standup tiem?
[13:47] <tcole> oh, wrong channel
[14:02] <dobey> looks like i will be getting this house, unless there is some issue with an appraisal or inspection
[14:03] <jblount> dobey: Nice, congratulations! Time for a house party.
[14:04] <jblount> Although, I guess we should wait until you move in.
[14:04] <dobey> yeah, in like 2 months after closing is done and i can actually move in
[14:05] <jblount> Bleh, don't remind me. That waiting period seems like forever.
[14:06] <jblount> I moved everything myself because I didn't want to wait a week for friends to be available to help.
[14:06] <dobey> i've mostly done that when moving
[14:07] <dobey> my tv was always the thing that needed help to move
[14:07] <dobey> since it was a 350lb crt thing
[14:07] <jblount> heh
[14:07] <dobey> but last time i moved, i got rid of it, and got an lcd
[14:07] <dobey> but i'm on the 4th floor, so i need help with the couches and my mattress, but other than that, i can pretty much move everything myself
[14:10] <dobey> well, the seller counteroffered, but i think it's safe to assume that it's the least amount their bank is willing to accept
[14:11] <jblount> That's possible. I still think we could have driven our price down a bit, but was anxious to be done dealing with the realtors.
[14:11] <urbanape> congrats, dobey
[14:11] <urbanape> morning, everyone
[14:12] <dobey> jblount: yeah. this is a short sell. they've already dropped the price like $50k from the initial listing date
[14:12] <jblount> Right on.
[14:30]  * jblount hugs lp:lptools
[14:31] <urbanape> easy there, tiger. Not sure that's entirely legal in the great state of Florida.
[14:32] <jblount> heh
[14:32] <urbanape> crap, now I have to reinstall the vmware tools in my ubuntu instance
[14:32] <dobey> florida? the great home of The Birdcage ?
[14:32] <dobey> i think it's probably legal in florida... :P
[14:44] <dobey> let's have an early standup, and have it last only 30 seconds!
[14:51] <dobey> brb
[14:51] <dobey> i /might/ miss the stand-up but should be back just in time for it
[14:52] <dobey> if i do miss it though...
[14:52] <dobey> ☭ DONE: Chatted with Joshua and Martin about Karmic blockers/UI, Lots of bug triage,
[14:52] <dobey> ☭ TODO: Reviews, Triage, #376687, Tarmac AMI
[14:52] <dobey> ☭ BLCK: 1.0a on server side (pending oauth.py upstream 1.0a patch approval)
[14:59] <CardinalFang> MEETING BEGINS
[14:59] <urbanape> me
[15:00] <aquarius> me
[15:00] <vds> me
[15:00] <jblount> me
[15:00] <CardinalFang> Say "me" to claim a slot on today's stand-up meeting.  DONE/TODO/BLOCKED.
[15:00] <CardinalFang> me
[15:01] <CardinalFang> dobey has already dumped his on us.  Anyone else?
[15:01] <CardinalFang> statik, ?
[15:02] <jblount> CardinalFang: I think he's in transit, and the others are on holiday or similar.
[15:03]  * jblount tags urbanape 
[15:03] <urbanape> DONE: Getting reacquainted with bindwood, running into weird problems updating my system.
[15:03] <urbanape> TODO: Try to tackle the bugs with improperly fleshed out bookmarks in couch. Start in on folders and ordering.
[15:03] <urbanape> BLOCK: None
[15:03] <urbanape> aquarius: pour it on
[15:03] <aquarius> ⚀ DONE: talk to thisfred about replication trigger; branch to load design docs into desktop couch on startup
[15:03] <aquarius> ⚁ TODO: piston oauth in snowy; learn about process groups; go away for a week, back Tuesday 18th
[15:03] <aquarius> ⚂ BLOCKED: none
[15:03] <aquarius> The power to destroy a planet is insignificant compared to the power of vds
[15:03] <vds> DONE: testing FX deploymnet, proposed branch for snapshot, discussed about deployment with mark and herb
[15:03] <vds> TODO: hopefully land branch for snapshot,  continue with the FX deployment of fx
[15:03] <vds> BLOCKED: nope
[15:03] <vds> jblount :)
[15:03] <jblount> DONE: got a couple branches of bug fixes landed, started figuring out how to solve things or move them to the next milestone
[15:03] <jblount> TODO: reviews, sort a few more bugs before W15 closes
[15:03] <jblount> CardinalFang: Go time!
[15:03] <jblount> BLOCKED: Rollout
[15:03] <CardinalFang> DONE: Pushed updated Spawning tree for reviews.  Elucidated problem with non-daemon/development usage.
[15:03] <CardinalFang> TODO: Make Gwibber speak to desktopcouch.  See what couchdb auth looks like; it's not in Karmic yet; must find it and plan pairing tool.
[15:03] <CardinalFang> BLOCKED: Nope.
[15:03] <CardinalFang> IndexError: pop from empty list
[15:04] <CardinalFang> MEETING ENDS
[15:04] <jblount> CardinalFang: cheers/thanks
[15:04] <urbanape> thanks, CardinalFang
[15:04] <aquarius> CardinalFang, I shall forward you a couple of emails that I sent to Eric about couchdb oauth
[15:04] <CardinalFang> aquarius, Please do!
[15:04] <urbanape> aquarius: you gonna have any time today to chat about bindwood? I've been out of it for a couple weeks.
[15:05] <aquarius> CardinalFang, done
[15:05] <thisfred> CardinalFang: it would be great if we could work on that together the coming week, since it's a big and important piece of the puzzle
[15:05] <aquarius> urbanape, yep, go fo rit
[15:06] <urbanape> keen, so apart from the deb building and relocation of the trunk, has anything else happened with it?
[15:06] <urbanape> any outstanding branches that need merging?
[15:08] <aquarius> as far as I'm aware, nothing else has happened with it. I've been caught up entirely on desktopcouch, so I haven't hacked on bindwood
[15:09] <urbanape> cool, no worries.
[15:09] <urbanape> just wanted to survey the state of it
[15:09] <dobey> woot
[15:10] <urbanape> that's better (vmware tools reinstalled)
[15:17] <CardinalFang> thisfred, Agreed.  I won't set anythign in stone today.  Monday?
[15:18] <thisfred> CardinalFang: sure, let's just at least coordinate, so we don't step on eachother
[15:18] <thisfred> CardinalFang: and do more involved discussion/pairing where appropriate
[15:24] <urbanape> kenvandine: if there's nothing personal in it, can you get me a backup of your bookmarks? I've just started from scratch, using desktop couch and all my bookmarks are present. Granted, there's a lot of test/dumb data in them.
[19:42]  * jblount stabs firefox with a rusty fork
[19:44] <dobey> spoon
[19:46] <jblount> dobey: Good point.
[19:50] <thisfred> rusty spork?
[19:50] <pfibiger> trident
[19:50]  * thisfred is a builder of bridges
[19:50] <pfibiger> thisfred: it's like we're opened up to a whole new world of thisfred, with you in the eastern timezone.
[19:51] <thisfred> pfibiger: yeah, but the extra bit you get is mornings, which may not be that much additional value ;)
[19:54] <jblount> heh
[19:57] <jblount> thisfred: I always felt guilty because you would be on much later than seemed reasonable for your tz. EST FTW.
[19:58] <thisfred> so far the switch has served me well: I've sort of hung on to my jet-lag, and get up and go to bed much earlier than I used to
[19:58] <thisfred> also it gets dark here much earlier
[19:59] <dobey> spoooooooooooon!
[20:00] <thisfred> there is no spoon
[20:00] <jblount> dobey: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWkbFKJZB0k
[20:00] <jblount> or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spoonman
[20:00] <Chipaca> statik: mattgriffin: any of you want to take on #401712 ?
[20:00] <dobey> jblount: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcm-J7lQT3w
[20:01] <jblount> dobey: Oh wow, I had forgotten about that.
[20:01] <Chipaca> statik: mattgriffin: that's https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubunet/+bug/401712 (if both mup and hal won't cooperate)
[20:01] <Chipaca> ooooh, wrong channel :)
[20:01] <Chipaca> wrong channel for mup or hal, that is
[20:02]  * Chipaca is mixing his any/either/both/neither today :(
[20:02] <mattgriffin> Chipaca: i'll take it
[20:02] <Chipaca> mattgriffin: now? (i.e. I leave you to it), or later (i.e. I assign it to you)
[20:03] <mattgriffin> Chipaca: i'll assign it to myself. it's dependent on public sharing so i'll add it to wishlist.
[20:04] <Chipaca> mattgriffin: also please thank the guy and set it to triaged
[20:07]  * Chipaca wonders why he's found it easier to use launchpadlib than the search page on launchpad
[20:08] <dobey> search for what?
[20:09] <Chipaca> dobey: bugs that are New and not owned by a member of the team
[20:10] <Chipaca> see? if I can say it in less than 80 cols, you aught to be able to search for it through the web :)
[20:10] <dobey> oh, yeah, the web ui is a bit lacking for bugs
[20:15] <jblount> Chipaca: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntuone/+bugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=-importance&field.status:list=NEW&assignee_option=none&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_supervisor=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=&field.omit_dupes.used=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.has_patch.used=&field.has_cve.used=&field.tag=&field.tags_combinator=ANY&search=Search
[20:15] <jblount> Chipaca: That's "new, and not owned by someone"
[20:15] <Chipaca> jblount: you mean "new, and not assigned to someone"?
[20:15] <jblount> Chipaca: yes
[20:15] <Chipaca> right
[20:16] <dobey> that search is doable, but unobvious and annoying
[20:16] <Chipaca> but I wanted the ones that weren't created by our team, so I could get back to the users
[20:16] <dobey> also, it's hard to search for bugs which don't have a milestone assigned
[20:16] <jblount> I see, forgive me, I thought it sounded too easy :)
[20:16] <Chipaca> jblount: I'll think about it
[20:16] <Chipaca> forgiving you, I mean
[20:17] <Chipaca> mattgriffin: re bug #402853, would "Won't fix" be an appropriate response? Or would it be "Invalid"?
[20:18] <dobey> Chipaca: assign to thisfred since he apparently speaks french? :)
[20:19] <mattgriffin> Chipaca: i can't understand eric's response.  it looks like it refers astre to Translations to complete the French translation.
[20:20] <thisfred> lemme check
[20:21] <mattgriffin> thisfred: Google things your french is quite good :)
[20:21] <thisfred> I thought they asked whether there was a french translation, so I pointed them to that, and for questions to the french forum
[20:21] <mattgriffin> thisfred, Chipaca: ok. so you can probably close this bug as invalid.
[20:21] <Chipaca> ah, you don't read french :) ok, the user says "I hate English, and would really like a French translation. Is there a french-speaking forum for me to rant and rave about Ubuntu One?", and this fred said "the client is translated, but I don't know of any french-speaking ubuntu one forum, no. But maybe you can ask un ubuntu-fr! Also, my French sucks"
[20:21] <mattgriffin> haha
[20:22] <Chipaca> you should *always* end your conversations like that
[20:22] <Chipaca> ;)
[20:22] <thisfred> hehe
[20:22] <thisfred> and I frequently do, although sometimes I say my German sucks, for a little variety
[20:23] <dobey> thisfred: you should say your dutch sucks.
[20:24] <thisfred> I could, but that would be a lie, my dutch is damn near impeccable. At least it was until a few spelling changes ago
[20:24] <thisfred> they like to mess with your head
[20:25]  * jblount marvels at his now working client
[20:25] <thisfred> anyway, spelling, like irony, has gone the way of the dodo, thanks to the internets. Can't say I'll miss them much.
[20:25] <jblount> I'm really glad we got that rollout done.
[20:27] <thisfred> http://www.slideshare.net/wamcvey/interprocesstask-communication-with-message-queues
[20:30] <Chipaca> thisfred: I meant when speaking in French to a Frenchman :)
[20:32] <thisfred> Chipaca: oh, I thought as sort of a "Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam" ;)
[20:32] <Chipaca> nah
[20:32] <Chipaca> it didn't do him much good, did it
[20:33] <thisfred> well, it *was* destroyed
[20:33] <Chipaca> yeah, but no thanks to him
[20:33] <Chipaca> they kicked his butt every time, or something like that
[20:34] <thisfred> which goes to show, an elephant is a good thing to have on your side
[20:35] <Chipaca> heh
[20:35] <Chipaca> wow
[20:38] <dobey> thisfred: was it a white elephant?
[20:38] <thisfred> pink, officer, it was decidedly pink
[20:40] <thisfred> http://www.delirium.be/
[20:45] <dobey> sigh
[20:46] <dobey> grrrrr
[20:46] <dobey> thanks for making my browser go crazy :(
[20:59] <thisfred> dobey: me? sorry, it's a sucky flash site, but not malicious I'm sure....
[21:01] <Chipaca> what is an appropriate response to "what about more storage capacity for free?"? dupe it to the "we're not actually checking the quota" bug?
[21:02] <dobey> thisfred: well it caused firefox to crash, and it loaded fast enough that closing only that window when restarting was difficult :(
[21:02] <dobey> uh, yeah, no
[21:04] <thisfred> dobey: ah. I have flashblocker enabled, so that I only enable flash movies that I want, and that worked fine. I apologize
[21:04] <Chipaca> flashblock ftw
[21:05] <Chipaca> I think my battery would last 50% less if I browsed without it
[21:05] <dobey> yeah, see, flashblocker doesn't tell you that a piece of flash is going to crash your browser
[21:05] <dobey> but whatever
[21:08] <thisfred> dobey: I did enable the flash movie, and then it worked, is what I mean, but yeah, I won't link flash sites anymore. lesson learned
[21:08] <dobey> flash is ok
[21:08]  * thisfred hits self with rolled up newspaper
[21:08] <dobey> i don't know why the hell it's so crashy in karmic
[21:09] <thisfred> it has never worked without problems for me in linux/FF, that's my main reason for flashblock
[21:11] <dobey> it worked pretty much flawlessly for me on jaunty
[21:16] <Chipaca> jblount: ping?
[21:17] <Chipaca> jblount: are you, or is it jdo, I should assign to bugs re /files/ ?
[21:17]  * Chipaca throws a who at that sentence to see if it'll stick
[21:18]  * Chipaca catches the who, and tries again with a whom
[21:18] <jblount> Chipaca: I'm the go to, although I'll probably push hard problems at urbanape :)
[21:19] <Chipaca> ok
[21:20] <jdo> who huh what?
[21:23] <jblount> jdo: Chipaca wanted you to write more javascript, I told him no.
[21:24] <jdo> jblount, thank you for protecting me
[21:25] <jblount> :)
[21:30] <jblount> Chipaca: I'm going to stop triaging now, because we have finally run into each other.
[21:30] <Chipaca> :)
[21:30] <Chipaca> we have?
[21:31] <Chipaca> I was so concentrated in what I was doing that I didn't check
[21:31] <Chipaca> we didn't overlap, did we?
[21:32] <jblount> Chipaca: Just on the last bug I touched (the business model one) but my comments are still valid, and I reassigned to mattgriffin.
[21:33] <Chipaca> "Pricey service"?
[21:33] <jblount> yep
[21:34] <Chipaca> heh, I meant to mark it "Triaged", not "In progress"
[21:39]  * dobey has enough bugs already, kthx
[21:41] <jblount> dobey: :(, sorry! We could assign some to rodrigo, he does gnome desktop stuff too :)
[21:45] <dobey> they're mostly duplicates anyway
[21:47] <Chipaca> jblount: could you do one more? https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubunet/+bug/406859
[21:47] <dobey> ok, my brain is about fried crispy, like some original recipe chicken
[21:48] <dobey> later
[21:48] <jblount> dobey: Have a good weekend
[21:48] <jblount> Chipaca: Sure thing!
[21:48]  * jblount tries to delete his account to remind himself if it is possible yet.
[21:50] <Chipaca> jblount: also: re https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubunet/+bug/407014, is marking as a duplicate with no "thank you" the usual way?
[21:52] <jblount> I think so.
[21:52] <jblount> Chipaca: ^^
[21:52] <jblount> I'm having some trouble with the duplicates, because they still show up in a list of "bugs marked as new and not assigned to someone"
[21:52] <Chipaca> heh
[21:56] <jblount> I really, really wish thunderbird would respect my browser settings. Really.
[21:56] <joshuahoover1> jblount: that's asking a lot
[21:57] <jblount> joshuahoover1: Heh, it's like a browser monopoly in the making.
[22:15] <urbanape> fork it
[22:16] <Chipaca> TERMINAL BRAIN FAILURE
[22:16] <Chipaca> I need to stop triaging for a while
[22:16] <Chipaca> anybody want to pick up https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client/+bug/408581 ?
[22:19] <jblount> Chipaca: I'm on it, take a break!
[22:22] <Chipaca> che, you know what would be awesome? throwing a .torrent at UbuntuOne/MyTorrents, and having it fetch
[22:22]  * Chipaca goes for some coffee
[22:32] <CardinalFang> Chipaca, No, you know what would be awesome?  Using bittorrent as our data stream protocol.  Got two boxes connected to U1?  Putting something in your share causes you to serve a torrent, so your local box connects to your local box, in addition to U1 data-center.
[22:38] <Chipaca> CardinalFang: that would be awesome too, but I think there's already a bug for it :)
[22:38] <CardinalFang> Ah.
[22:39] <CardinalFang> I'm learning that not is there nothing new under the sun, there's also probably a bug filed for it already.
[22:45] <Chipaca> CardinalFang: #375302
[22:45] <Chipaca> CardinalFang: bug #375302
[22:45] <Chipaca> thank you, ubottu
[22:46] <CardinalFang> Er, yeah.  Scatter/Gather can help with nonlocal, too.
[22:55]  * CardinalFang goes offline.  "Nice weekend, all.
[22:58] <Chipaca> statik: bug #410404 needs your Special Touch
[23:42] <tcole> doesn't that just need to be assigned to the right package?